[12:29] <milkii> i just checked the iso and not the md5-file
[12:30] <grazie> milkii: you've matched the md5sums ok? (You can use the file too)
[12:30] <milkii> the md5 check is correct
[12:30] <milkii> or md5sum
[12:30] <Jester45> humm
[12:31] <grazie> milkii: then run the cd check on the boot menu
[12:31] <Jester45> it frezes
[12:31] <Jester45> oo
[12:31] <milkii> it hangs up the same way it does, when i start install
[12:31] <Jester45> mem check
[12:32] <milkii> i think its same result but ill give it a try
[12:32] <milkii> bb 2 minutes. and thanks a lot :)
[12:32] <Jester45> i just hit the 2tb transfer amount on my fileserver
[12:34] <Jester45> im a bnandwidth junkie
[12:34] <Jester45> hehe
[12:34] <Jester45> why stream mp3's when flac sounds better
[12:34] <Jester45> and same with movies
[12:34] <Jester45> why use avi? when dvd isos look better
[12:35] <Jester45> hey cellofellow
[12:35] <cellofellow> Hey
[12:35] <grazie> Jester45: what are you streaming and to who?
[12:35] <Jester45> gonnn work on my site now?
[12:35] <Jester45> grazie: my stuff and to me
[12:36] <grazie> Jester45: in a loop? lol
[12:36] <cellofellow> I accidently typed ctrl+alt+l and the whole system went screwy. It locked up and the little lights on the keyboard (num lock, caps lock, scroll lock) began to blink. I restarted X using SSH but it did no good. What happened? How to I undo it if it does it again?
[12:37] <cellofellow> I've steamed DVD ISO's with VLC. It's too slow on Base100 Ethernet but gigabit ethernet would work.
[12:37] <cellofellow> DON'T do 802.11b wireless. You can't see a thing.
[12:38] <Jester45> cellofellow: i got gb ether
[12:38] <cellofellow> so, what's this ctrl+alt+l thing. It looked like it's supposed to do that cause it did it again. How do I undo it?
[12:38] <cellofellow> Jester45: yeah, I know
[12:39] <Jester45> well a dvd a day adds up quick
[12:40] <Jester45> plus flac streams are a bit heavy also
[12:40] <cellofellow> out of hard drive space?
[12:40] <Jester45> nope
[12:40] <cellofellow> I'd be
[12:40] <Jester45> i got plenty
[12:40] <Jester45> im afk im going to play some games
[12:41] <cellofellow> ok
[12:41] <Jester45> oo
[12:41] <Jester45> could stream tha talso :0
[12:44] <cellofellow> maxamillion: any ideas what ctrl+alt+l does?
[12:45] <maxamillion> cellofellow: no ... i'm scared to try in order to find out
[12:45] <cellofellow> yeah, it's that way.
[12:47] <maxamillion> ?
[12:47] <cellofellow> it's sort of scary. The computer went nuts
[12:48] <maxamillion> interesting
[12:51] <Jester45> i will try
[12:51] <Jester45> nothing here
[12:52] <Jester45> im not gonna play games
[12:53] <maxamillion> i think i am ....
[12:53] <Jester45> cellofellow: will you help me with putting a blog on my site?
[12:53] <maxamillion> brb
[12:53] <cellofellow> Jester45: sure.
[12:53] <cellofellow> Jester45: I say try WordPress
[12:54] <Jester45> all i have is apache2
[12:54] <Jester45> no php sql or anything
[12:54] <cellofellow> well, dunno
[12:54] <Jester45> i tried that but.. i dont know what to do
[12:55] <Jester45> i would really like somthing like nvu
[12:55] <Jester45> but i didnt like that so much
[12:55] <cellofellow> I've installed WordPress on a hosted machine that had a simple web interface for it. But all it did was create a database and copy pre-configured files.
[12:55] <cellofellow> No, not Nvu.
[12:55] <cellofellow> If you use WordPress you can use BloGTK to write for it.
[12:56] <Jester45> i would like somthing that i can use templates with but... beable to customize them graphicaly
[12:56] <cellofellow> wordpress has templates, but if you want graphical customization of the template all I know is Blogger 2.
[12:57] <grazie> Jester45: apache + php + mysql + wordpress = blog....easy
[12:57] <Jester45> iu really dont want to run php and mysql
[12:57] <cellofellow> Jester45: use phpmyadmin for the mysql stuff and just use the repo version of wordpress.
[12:58] <Jester45> ok...
[12:58] <cellofellow> well, there may be a blog that runs in Python and SQLite or flat files.
[12:58] <cellofellow> look up blog engines in wikipedia, I think they've a big list.
[01:00] <maxamillion> moinmoin
[01:00] <cellofellow> I thought that was wiki.
[01:00] <maxamillion> oh lol
[01:00] <maxamillion> yeah, rgr
[01:00] <maxamillion> same difference
[01:01] <cellofellow> there should be a blog companion for moinmoin.
[01:01] <maxamillion> or just run something like drupal or joomla and blog on that :P
[01:02] <cellofellow> I said wordpress. He doesn't want to bother with PHP+MySQL.
[01:04] <grazie> Jester45: there's blosxom if you like perl and flat files
[01:04] <Jester45> would that be less resource usage?
[01:05] <cellofellow> perl is a little faster than PHP I think.
[01:05] <cellofellow> and no database
[01:05] <grazie> Jester45: oh yeah, but once you get a lot of data it'll start to crawl
[01:06] <Jester45> a lot of data as in? webpages?
[01:06] <maxamillion> cellofellow: i think they are actually pretty comparable for simple functions
[01:06] <cellofellow> well, I was guessing
[01:07] <maxamillion> i don't actually know to be honest
[01:09] <grazie> the none db blogging software is looking a bit dated...imho
[01:09] <maxamillion> probably is
[01:13] <cellofellow> Jester45: probably best to jump in and use WordPress or Drupal, or Zope if you want Python instead, but Zope and Drupal do so much more than blogs, while that's all WordPress does.
[01:13] <Jester45> how much resources will php and mysql use?
[01:14] <Jester45> im running that server on a lowend machine
[01:14] <cellofellow> PHP not much, only runs when called. MySQL will be a little burdensome but not too bad.
[01:15] <Jester45> like? a 2nd apache
[01:15] <cellofellow> prolly
[01:15] <cellofellow> I run apache on a little Pentium.
[01:16] <Jester45> ok i will apt-get it
[01:16] <Jester45> oo no
[01:17] <Jester45> 20.5 more mb
[01:17] <Jester45> that machine only has like 1g left
[01:17] <cellofellow> my root disk (everything but /home) has about 4GB full of software.
[01:17] <Jester45> lol
[01:18] <Jester45> i think mine would be a 1g then the /home part is like 190gb
[01:18] <Jester45> well
[01:18] <Jester45> even more than that
[01:19] <cellofellow> my /home is a 40GB, and it's at about 10GB full. I keep adding multimedia stuff.
[01:19] <cellofellow> Mostly OGG music.
[01:20] <Jester45> i use flac
[01:20] <cellofellow> My speakers aren't so hot, so CD and Ogg sound about the same.
[01:20] <cellofellow> Flac would be about the same as CD.
[01:20] <Jester45> it is the same
[01:20] <Jester45> lossless
[01:21] <cellofellow> well, Ogg works here.
[01:21] <maxamillion> i have 120gb hdd at home .... i have used 3.5gb :P
[01:21] <Jester45> lol
[01:21] <cellofellow> jeepers
[01:21] <siegfried__> Has anyone used xubuntu live to create a 1GB boot flash stick?
[01:21] <Jester45> you dont like videos
[01:21] <maxamillion> but here at work i have a goofy partition scheme because i dual boot and keep a fat32 data hdd ... its crazy
[01:22] <Jester45> siegfried__: i tried once but install was taking to long
[01:22] <maxamillion> errr data partition*
[01:22] <cellofellow> oh, so NTFS WinXP root, ext3 Linux root, and fat32 data part?
[01:22] <Jester45> well i have many diffrent setups
[01:22] <Jester45> thats kinda strange
[01:23] <cellofellow> I have one partition per disk, 'cept the root has a swap too, and three disks.
[01:23] <siegfried__> I had it working on knoppix a few days ago and now I cannot boot knoppix from CD or flash stick any more. I cannot figure out what changed.
[01:23] <Jester45> whynot just a ntfs data/ windows
[01:23] <Jester45> cellofellow: now what i apt-get ed
[01:23] <cellofellow> siegfried__: sorry, outdated hardware keeps me from booting from USB.
[01:24] <cellofellow> Jester45: also install phpmyadmin to set it up from a web interface.
[01:24] <Jester45> apt-get install phpmyadmin ?
[01:24] <cellofellow> yeah
[01:25] <Jester45> i think my blog will be weekly
[01:25] <cellofellow> mine's every-now-and-again-ly
[01:25] <Jester45> or when-i-got-newsly
[01:26] <Jester45> lol
[01:26] <Jester45> nice choice
[01:26] <Jester45> kinda weird that me and u both said same thing and used -
[01:26] <cellofellow> been quiet for quiet a while
[01:27] <cellofellow> funny, in a way, yes.
[01:27] <Jester45> scary in toher ways
[01:27] <Jester45> ok now what
[01:27] <cellofellow> apt-get install wordpress too
[01:27] <Jester45> ok now what
[01:27] <cellofellow> and read the docs. Honestly I don't really know
[01:27] <Jester45> o man...
[01:28] <Jester45> walked me into this then left
[01:28] <cellofellow> No, I'm still here. Just not sure what to do. I've an inlking. Create a database and configure WordPress to use it.
[01:28] <Jester45> forget that
[01:29] <cellofellow> never actually done either.
[01:29] <cellofellow> can't be that hard.
[01:29] <Jester45> to much
[01:29] <Jester45> de apt-get ing
[01:29] <cellofellow> actually, I've got a drupal tarball here that I want to install. Not from apt cause I want to be able to do it on a hosted box.
[01:30] <Jester45> look at my site cellofellow i got a new script up
[01:30] <cellofellow> k
[01:31] <cellofellow> cool. It does menus? Is the final output a DVD ISO?
[01:31] <Jester45> so pretty now
[01:32] <Jester45> no
[01:32] <Jester45> the output is the dvd's folders
[01:32] <Jester45> i encluded the option to burn in the script all ou have to do is enter dvd device
[01:32] <cellofellow> I have no DVD burner. It'd be cool if the final product of the script was an ISO ready to be burned. (My dad has a burner.)
[01:32] <Jester45> the authoring part is messed up
[01:33] <Jester45> can you dd folder -> iso?
[01:33] <Jester45> it encodes it fine
[01:33] <cellofellow> I think it's mkisofs
[01:33] <Jester45> well i mgiht look into that
[01:33] <Jester45> might
[01:34] <cellofellow> ok, thanks man
[01:34] <Jester45> pretty good for my 2nd script
[01:34] <Jester45> lol and my 1st script installs a kernel module
[01:36] <Jester45> bye bye cello
[02:23] <Dell_boy> Hi Im back I screwed up Linux!
[02:24] <Dell_boy> Acctually Mandriva
[02:24] <Dell_boy> I need Help
[02:25] <Qew> tried #mandriva ?
[02:25] <Dell_boy> oh thanks
[02:26] <Dell_boy> is that the Connection name?
[02:26] <Qew> type /join #mandriva
[02:26] <Dell_boy> thanks bye
[02:26] <Qew> bye
[02:31] <Kvadd> Anyone alive?
[02:43] <iKitchu> hi fellas!!! i'm trying to get Xubuntu installed on an old iMac G3 400Mhz with 256Mb of ram (64 shared with video) and a 15Gb HD... so I guess it should be good enough to run it... but still when I get past the loooong splash screen it just turns black and nothing happens... could it be the video resolution? how could I change the installation settings (or boot settings) ????
[02:54] <firefish> can you enter the console by pressing ctrl+alt+F1~6?
[03:02] <iKitchu> let me try that
[03:02] <iKitchu> yup I just got the console firefish, at least one good sign
[03:03] <iKitchu> but as soon as i get to F7, it craps
[03:03] <iKitchu> it doesn't even glitch the screen, it turns right off
[03:04] <iKitchu> i just tested and it does exactly the same with Ubuntu 6.10
[03:38] <BrendanM> Is there any way to sort the icons on the desktop? By size, filename, that sort of thing?
[03:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Not that I know of.  xfdesktop seems pretty limited.
[03:42] <Jester45> PuMpErNiCkLe: is xfdesktop xubuntun made or xfce made?
[03:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's from xfce.
[03:43] <Jester45> think they will improve it?
[03:43] <Jester45> i do like gnome's ablity to use the filemanager options from the desktop
[03:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I think they're planning on using code from Thunar to manage the desktop.
[03:44] <Jester45> like gnome?
[03:45] <Jester45> your back!!!!!!
[03:45] <BrendanM> using thunar to manage the desktop is fine, I just wish I could sort my icons. Thunar lets you arrange stuff in folders.
[03:45] <BrendanM> oh well, it's not that big of a deal
[03:45] <BrendanM> I wonder how hard it would be to write a little script to do this?
[03:46] <Jester45> not to hard i would guess
[03:46] <BrendanM> Anyone have any idea where/how xfdesktop stores position info for the icons?
[03:46] <cellofellow> in .config/xfce4 somewhere
[03:46] <BrendanM> Is that something people would be interested in? I generally don't write things just for myself.
[03:47] <Jester45> i wouldnt use it
[03:47] <Jester45> i place the icons at my best used space
[03:48] <BrendanM> oh, this would be totally easy. there's a file called icons.screen0.rc that has all the info
[03:48] <cellofellow> I like my launchers on the left and my devices on the right.
[03:48] <cellofellow> Perl would probably be better than Bash.
[03:48] <Jester45> my devices are on top and folders on left/top area
[03:48] <BrendanM> I'm surprised nobody's done this before. (Or maybe they have and I just haven't looked hard enough)
[03:48] <cellofellow> probably didn't publish it.
[03:49] <BrendanM> I don't really know perl, but I heard it's pretty simple.
[03:49] <Jester45> someone has done it b4 if its possible
[03:50] <BrendanM> jester, I'm sure that's true
[03:51] <Jester45> it seems like something that lindows might of had
[03:51] <BrendanM> Probably, Lindows/Linspire tries to ape Windows
[03:51] <cellofellow> Well, now it does that with Ubuntu under the hood.
[03:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Well, soon.
[03:53] <cellofellow> By the next release.
[03:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> And we get click'n'run, whatever good that's for. o.O
[03:53] <cellofellow> I don't really care for it, but I'm not against it. It'll make my friends who I talk into Ubuntu much happier.
[03:57] <BrendanM> How is C'n'R any better than apt-get or synaptic?
[04:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's more like Add/Remove, apparently, and it's targetted at proprietary applications.
[04:01] <iKitchu> i'm still waiting for an answer about my imac
[04:02] <Jester45> (07:43:06 PM) iKitchu: hi fellas!!! i'm trying to get Xubuntu installed on an old iMac G3 400Mhz with 256Mb of ram (64 shared with video) and a 15Gb HD... so I guess it should be good enough to run it... but still when I get past the loooong splash screen it just turns black and nothing happens... could it be the video resolution? how could I change the installation settings (or boot settings) ????
[04:03] <Jester45> BrendanM: C'n'R itsnt as good as apt with Cn
[04:03] <Jester45> R
[04:03] <iKitchu> yeah that's the one :P
[04:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> You can change the boot settings to give more information on where and when it's freezing by removing 'quiet' and 'splash' from the grub entry.
[04:03] <Jester45> you have pay for many things
[04:03] <iKitchu> the grub entry? i'm trying to boot from the CD, a little more explanation would be appreciated 'cause i'm a newbie
[04:04] <BFTD> today I had a pupernickel bagel
[04:04] <BFTD> pumpernickel
[04:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Before it boots, you should, briefly at least, see a screen saying something like "Press esc for more option".
[04:04] <Jester45> what you had PuMpErNiCkLe's bagel eeeww thats nasty
[04:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s/option/options/
[04:05] <iKitchu> PuMpErNiCkLe I don't get that but I at least get BOOT : and then it says it'll tell me more details if I type help but all i get as the options are not what I need
[04:06] <Dell_boy_> Hi everyone im having a Linux Problem
[04:06] <Jester45> welcome back Dell_boy_
[04:06] <iKitchu> Dell_boy_ I would be surprised if you would've said windows
[04:06] <Dell_boy_> lol
[04:07] <Dell_boy_> I am on Window
[04:07] <Dell_boy_> Windows
[04:07] <iKitchu> ewwww
[04:07] <Dell_boy_> Linux wont boot up
[04:07] <iKitchu> gross
[04:07] <Dell_boy_> lol
[04:07] <iKitchu> :P
[04:07] <Dell_boy_> im starting from Scratch
[04:07] <BFTD> Jester45 no, its a name of a bagel
[04:08] <Jester45> BFTD: lol i know
[04:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> iKitchu: 'nosplash' at least should help - it will show the actual console output, that way.
[04:08] <Dell_boy_> wait......i dont need help....opps XD
[04:09] <iKitchu> PuMpErNiCkLe thanks i'll try it right away
[04:10] <grazie> iKitchu: hang on a minute
[04:11] <iKitchu> ok
[04:12] <iKitchu> craaap!... it's giving me a whole bunch of Buffer I/O error, maybe I burnt the disk too fast (40X)
[04:13] <grazie> iKitchu: your description sounds like a known iMac problem..I'm sure it;s described in the forums
[04:14] <iKitchu> ohhh geeee
[04:14] <iKitchu> I just stumbled upon one...
[04:14] <iKitchu> it reads : The only serious problem with G3 iMacs and Breezy is that it installs with wrong refresh rates in xorg.conf, leaving you with a black screen after booting.
[04:14] <iKitchu> Booting in text-only mode and changing the refresh rates to horizontal:60-6 and vertical: 43-117 should get you up and running nicely. Ormanually adjust during install by choosing expert mode.
[04:14] <iKitchu> can someone tell me how to change that in text mode?
[04:15] <grazie> iKitchu: that's the one
[04:16] <grazie> iKitchu: what do you need telling?
[04:17] <iKitchu> I guess I wanna try changing my refresh rate to what i'm being told in the forum... but they don't explain how... and forgive my sins please but I used to be a windows user
[04:17] <iKitchu> lol
[04:17] <grazie> iKitchu: boot the machine in recovery mode
[04:18] <iKitchu> it's not even installed yet, i'm using the live CD and trying to install
[04:18] <grazie> iKitchu: is that not explain in the post?
[04:19] <iKitchu> no, they just say the refresh rate is not good
[04:19] <Jester45> at pree boot you have 4 optios
[04:19] <grazie> iKitchu: i'm thinking you may need the alternate cd
[04:19] <Jester45> one should be advance or other
[04:20] <Jester45> click on that then enter on the new line of text the refresh rates
[04:20] <Jester45> sorry if im a bit rusty on the wording of the cd
[04:21] <iKitchu> Jester45 isn't it expert?
[04:21] <iKitchu> XD
[04:27] <iKitchu> i just tried something : live video=ofonly
[04:28] <Jester45> well i havent been on a live cd for a year
[04:30] <grazie> iKitchu: I'm about to turn in. If you don't get sorted, put something on the ppc forum.
[04:32] <ryno> I'm very pleased with this distro, thank you devel.
[04:37] <BrendanM> iKitchu, is there a reason you're trying to Live CD? I've had better luck with the text-mode alternate CD on older systems
[04:37] <Dell_boy_> I redownloaded Mandriva it took 1minute to download that 696mb file
[04:40] <Dell_boy_> thats 11mbps
[04:52] <atrain> can xubuntu install to a usb drive normaly? Or where can I get a proper printed copy for cheap/free? (I have an old iMac that cant read burnt discs, only 1 IDE channel so I cant stick in a proper drive temp, so have to make the main one as a external USB)
[04:55] <kalikiana> atrain, I suppose if the stick has enough memory you could put a basic xubuntu on it, but i don't remember a link right now
[04:56] <atrain> not a stick, an actual harddrive.... will xubuntu-alternate install to /dev/sdaX?
[05:03] <BrendanM> atrain, probably, as long as your BIOS has support for USB hard drives
[05:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> If he shows up again, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=806e731ea9fd1aba4e298f8f0c273772&t=308027 is for him.
[05:05] <BrendanM> if the BIOS doesn't support USB, you might have better luck with the LiveCD, since you'd be installing from within a system with USB drivers. It'll probably still take some serious tinkering with GRUB to get it to boot.
[05:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> BrendanM: He's gone.
[05:05] <BrendanM> ah yeah
[05:05] <BrendanM> oh well
[05:05] <BrendanM> that looks like a good link
[05:06] <BrendanM> It only works if the BIOS will boot from USB though, right?
[05:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yeah.  If the BIOS won't boot from USB, there's no way your main drive will be USB.
[05:09] <BrendanM> Couldn't you do some voodoo where you put like a minimal version of Linux (the equivalent of one of those floppy distros) on the IDE hard drive, booted to that, and then used that to load the main OS from the USB drive?
[05:10] <BrendanM> It seems like it should be possible, if very annoying to do
[05:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Definitely.  Once Linux is loaded, you don't face any of the BIOS limitations.
[05:13] <BrendanM> well, I'm turning in. Later
[05:25] <Bogus8> anyone use an online backup service?
[05:25] <Bogus8> if so which one and what was your experience with them?
[08:08] <BrendanM> Does anyone know if there's a way to make VLC show the title of the song it's playing in the titlebar when it's minimized? Would Xfce's panel support that?
[09:09] <BFTD> how do I cp a dir from one place to another? cp doesn't seem to work
[09:09] <gabkdlly> cp -r
[09:10] <gabkdlly> for explainations of what other fun things cp can do, do "man cp" ;)
[10:32] <sdac221x_> hi can someone please help me set up a complete sources.list file ?  I added everything from guides but still can't find the stuff i need.
[10:33] <sdac221x_> sorry wrong room scratch that question
[10:33] <coNP> sdac221x_: what do you need?
[12:09] <copter944> hi. does anyone knows how to change a decimal separator in xfce?
[12:18] <copter944> never mind
[12:45] <Grem> hi
[12:45] <gabkdlly> hi Grem
[12:48] <Grem> does anyone know if xubuntu feisty herd 4 has XFCE 4.4 final?
[12:49] <grazie> Grem: it does
[12:50] <Grem> yay =)
[12:50] <Grem> tks
[12:50] <Grem> gonna test herd 4 later today
[01:04] <michaelpo> hello.... i cannot watch vcd... i can watch dvd... what do I need to do? before i did a reinstallation i could watch both dvd and vcd after i installed some package... i could not find the website that teach me how to do it now... please help...
[01:06] <grazie> michaelpo: you're probably missing some codecs. which applications are you trying?
[01:07] <michaelpo> grazie: i'm using mplayer and totem
[01:08] <grazie> michaelpo: vlc is good if you want to try it as I don't think you'll need anything extra to play vcd
[01:08] <michaelpo> grazie: ok.. will try that...
[01:09] <grazie> michaelpo: easyubuntu is a useful script for getting codecs, etc
[01:09] <grazie> !easyubuntu | michaelpo
[01:09] <ubotu> michaelpo: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[01:11] <michaelpo> downloading vlc now...
[01:21] <michaelpo> vlc did not work... it crashed when first loading vcd content..
[01:25] <grazie> michaelpo: do you know exactly when it stopped working?
[01:26] <michaelpo> when i click open disc
[01:26] <michaelpo> choose vcd... then click ok..
[01:27] <grazie> michaelpo: no. do you know when (what day) your system stopped being able to play vcd?
[01:27] <michaelpo> after i reinstalled my system...
[01:28] <grazie> michaelpo: a reinstall, not an update?
[01:29] <michaelpo> reinstall...
[01:29] <michaelpo> not update...
[01:29] <grazie> michaelpo: so you've done no updates on the new install?
[01:29] <michaelpo> i may have missed out on installing some package...
[01:29] <michaelpo> yes i have done updates too...
[01:30] <grazie> michaelpo: the problem is probably a bad update
[01:31] <grazie> michaelpo: can you play other media?
[01:34] <michaelpo> i can play dvd...
[01:34] <michaelpo> i can play wmv, rm, avi, mpg, mov....
[01:34] <grazie> michaelpo: are you using edgy?
[01:34] <michaelpo> yup
[01:35] <grazie> michaelpo:  the quickest way to sort the problem would be to do a fresh install and don't update
[01:36] <grazie> grazie: then get vlc and/or the codecs + extras that you need
[01:36] <michaelpo> really?
[01:36] <michaelpo> hmm... maybe i shall wait for feisty
[01:37] <grazie> michaelpo: I don't know of any reasons why vcd would have stopped working
[01:39] <michaelpo> i've also just installed quake... where is the icon to start quake?
[01:40] <grazie> michaelpo: sorry I don't know quake. do you not have a games menu?
[01:40] <michaelpo> i dont have games menu
[01:41] <grazie> michaelpo: you may have to create one yourself. if you type 'quake' in a terminal what happens?
[01:42] <michaelpo> tried that
[01:42] <michaelpo> ah...
[01:42] <michaelpo> quake2 works
[01:42] <grazie> michaelpo:good
[01:42] <michaelpo> nope... it dont work...
[01:43] <grazie> dunno
[01:43] <michaelpo> Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[01:56] <michaelpo> i did a right click property in synaptic for quake2... lots of different directory... where is the quake2.exe file?
[01:58] <grazie> michaelpo: there is no quake2,exe (that's Wondoze). in a terminal do 'which quake2' to find out where it is installed
[02:01] <michaelpo> usr/games/quake2 but there is no pics/colormap.pcx
[02:02] <michaelpo> which quake2 in terminal gives /usr/games/quake2 but there is no pics/colormap.pcx
[02:08] <michaelpo> nevermind... no need to try quake2... try something else...
[02:10] <michaelpo> is there another good fps that i can try in linux?
[02:11] <gabkdlly> michaelpo: glxgears
[02:18] <michaelpo> grazie: cant find glxgears in synaptics
[02:31] <michaelpo>  i cant find the .deb file for alienarena
[02:32] <gabkdlly> michaelpo: glxgears is installed by default. I think it comes with Xorg
[02:33] <michaelpo> i typed glxgears in terminal... it is 3 gears turning around and round
[02:33] <gabkdlly> although, I am having a little trouble with it myself. I am used to glxgears just spitting out for me the FPS on the terminal from which I am running it. That is the way it worked by default on Gentoo. I am not sure how to get it to do that on Xubuntu.
[02:35] <grazie> michaelpo: can't you select gears from Applications > Settings Manager > Screensaver?
[02:35] <grazie> michaelpo: Applications > Settings > Settings Manager > Screensaver?
[02:38] <michaelpo> im tired.... will try finding fps and installing it another day..... bedtime... good night...
[02:52] <pbcrunch> hello.  i just installed xubuntu on a pentium III 1000 with 192MB RAM, an intel i810 motherboard with integrated graphics,a 40 gig drive, and a PCI ethernet controller.  i can ping google.com and other websites in a terminal window but i cant get firefox to connect to any websites.  gaim cant connect to anything either.
[02:59] <danboid> I'm just downloading herd 4 now!
[03:01] <danboid> Would it be possible for me to share one /home oartition between xubuntu and a Debian version (I want to try sidux)?
[03:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yes.
[03:09] <pbcrunch> any command lin eapplications i run can access the internet but none of the X applications i run can
[03:09] <pbcrunch> i can apt-get update, but synaptic cant update
[03:17] <badock> hello all
[03:17] <lar1> hi
[03:17] <badock> do you guys use xfce4-terminal ?
[03:18] <badock> cause if so, i have troubles with the screen command
[03:18] <lar1> how so?
[03:18] <badock> i can't do a backspace with xfce4-terminal while it's "screened"
[03:18] <badock> if you see what i mean ...
[03:18] <badock> do you know where this might come from ?
[03:19] <badock> (NOTE : the Ctrl+h works fine though...)
[03:19] <lar1> I'm very, very new to xfce.  Does ctrl-H give the effect you need?
[03:19] <badock> yes like for every terminal
[03:20] <badock> but it's not confortable
[03:20] <lar1> and the backspace key works fine when not using 'screen' ?
[03:21] <badock> yes it does
[03:21] <badock> and the backspace works fine with any other terminal
[03:21] <badock> (xterm and rxvt)
[03:22] <badock> lar1,  could you try that yourself ?
[03:22] <badock> just to compare
[03:22] <lar1> Yeah.  I get the same problem in screen
[03:23] <lar1> How about looking at Edit->Preferences->Advanced and then explicitly setting what the backspace and delete produce. i.e. ^H
[03:24] <badock> mmmh
[03:24] <badock> ok let's try that
[03:25] <badock> ok it seems to work
[03:25] <badock> thanks lar1 ;)
[03:25] <badock> you might be new, but you helped me right
[03:33] <lar1> ok, good it's fixed
[03:39] <lar1> I have a brand new installation from xubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso which complains about not finding the repositories.I get the same problem with both synaptic and apt-get.  The errors are 'could not connect to fi.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (193.166.3.5). - connect (113 No rout to host)' for each repository
[03:40] <BrendanM> that sounds like a network error. Do you have internet connectivity?
[03:40] <BrendanM> (obviously you do on the computer you're talking to us on)
[03:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Edit the country prefix out of each entry in /etc/apt/sources.list and it will pull them from the main site at archive.ubuntu.com.
[03:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Update, first, before you try to install anything.
[03:41] <BrendanM> So I wrote a script to alphabetize the desktop icons, and it works, but I have to log out and back in to see the changes, is there a quicker way to refresh the desktop?
[03:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> F5
[03:42] <lar1> ok,
[03:43] <BrendanM> pumpernickle, nice. What does that actually do?
[03:43] <lar1> the machine has network and DNS works, too
[03:51] <Knurg> vurderer  sette opp et raid5 array p min maskin med mdadm i linux
[03:52] <Knurg> og dette var feilposting :) sorry
[04:04] <lar1> ok , I've tried removing the country prefix from apt/sources.list, but get the same errors (Could not connect ... connect 113 no route to host)
[04:04] <lar1> but can look up the hosts in dns and even ping them
[04:34] <Vilhelms> I just installed xubuntu-desktop and have ran it successfully, but whenever I try to click on an icon on my desktop my whole desktop moves (including the background) each click it toggles from moving up and down, and I can't click on anything because of it. Why would this be? Does anyone have any idea on how I could fix it? Thanks :)
[04:52] <grazie> Vilhelms: I don't know, but sounds like you X config is not set up quite right
[05:01] <Vilhelms> grazie, I haven't made any changes... all I did was install xubuntu-desktop using apt
[05:02] <Vilhelms> Well, I have another question regardless... where is .xinitrc and .xprofile? I need to edit it so I can add my Xmodmap for the media keys on my laptop.
[05:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> They're in ~/
[05:03] <Vilhelms> PuMpErNiCkLe, Alright thanks :)
[05:03] <Vilhelms> Neither of them exist in there, should I just create them?
[05:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Sure.
[05:04] <Vilhelms> PuMpErNiCkLe, Alright thanks :)
[05:05] <Vilhelms> And then do I just ctrl+alt+backspace and relogin for it to load that?
[05:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yeah.
[05:09] <sdac221x_> i am trying to install some thinkpad software throught synaptic...and it wants to remove "xubuntu-desktop" package in order to install this... is this right ?? should i allow it to go ahead ?
[05:19] <lar1> I have a fresh install of xubuntu from xubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso and it is having trouble contacting the repositories for update.  Neither synaptic nor apt-get can get through, though ping works and host returns a valid answer.  The errors apply both for the regional archives ( e.g. fi.archive.ubuntu.com ) and the central ones ( archive.ubuntu.com )    An example of the error message:
[05:19] <lar1> Failed to fetch http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Could not connect to fi.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (193.166.3.5). - connect (113 No route to host)
[05:19] <lar1> Reading package lists... Done
[05:19] <lar1> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:24] <lar1> The URL above works on a KDE (kubuntu) machine using wget and apt-get.
[05:26] <grazie> lar1: apart from ping, does any other networking work?
[05:26] <lar1> yes, dns works and I can browse the web using ff or konq
[05:26] <lar1> not konq
[05:26] <lar1> just ff
[05:29] <grazie> lar1: is /etc/apt/sources.lst the same as the kubuntu machine?
[05:29] <grazie> lar1: if you've got the same release on both machines that is...
[05:30] <lar1> I've tried both, but same result.  Both are 6.10, I'll do a diff ...
[05:31] <grazie> lar1: I thought you said kubuntu works?
[05:31] <lar1> Kubuntu works, but using the sources.list on the xubuntu machine does not change the errors
[05:32] <lar1> The links, like the one above, from the xubuntu can be cut and pasted from the apt-get error messages into the kubuntu machine where they are accessible
[05:33] <grazie> lar1: so kubuntu works completely and xubuntu doesn't work at all, yes?
[05:33] <grazie> lar1: for apt-get, etc
[05:33] <lar1> yes
[05:33] <grazie> v.strange
[05:34] <lar1> yes.  that's why I check here
[05:34] <grazie> but apt-get update worked on xubuntu?
[05:35] <lar1> neither apt-get nor synaptic work on xubuntu, apt-get update gets as far as 37% before the error occurs
[05:36] <grazie> looks like an xubuntu specific problem, but no idea what it could be
[05:36] <lar1> I'm suspecting a problem with repository itself, but am not sure what or how
[05:37] <lar1> the reason it's a fresh install is that the old one, which used to allow me to update, stopped allowing me to update (this error)
[05:38] <grazie> yeah, no knowledge myself either, but most package are shared so it's not the packages themselves
[05:39] <Vilhelms> How do I set the Windows Key as Super in Xubuntu?
[05:40] <lar1> probably not, nor with the directories since (in addition to them being shared) I can fetch them with wget from the kubuntu machine
[05:40] <lar1> can't fetch them with wget from the xubuntu machine
[05:42] <grazie> lar1: i don't there's a specific channel for your problem, but #ubuntu-motu guys may have seen something similar before
[05:42] <grazie> *don't think
[05:43] <lar1> nor will firefox on the xubuntu machine get the files, but works just fine from ff on the kubunt machine
[05:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Are they on the same network?
[05:44] <lar1> yes
[05:44] <grazie> lar1: seems like you got some kind of block
[05:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Router problem, most likely.
[05:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I've had issues like that with DLink models.
[05:44] <lar1> I'm using DSL
[05:44] <grazie> same router?
[05:45] <lar1> yes
[05:48] <grazie> lar1: you tried switching network ports on the router?
[05:48] <tuxcrafter> hello i have a question, when I print in xubuntu 6.10 with evince and I try to change for example the paper tray it will nog accept these changes and print the default way. I have to go to cups webinterfase change the default printing systems as root and than print with evince. How can I solve this. I want to be able to change settings in the print dialog. btw openoffice printdialog workst just fine.
[05:48] <Vilhelms> How do I set the Windows Key as Super in Xubuntu?
[05:49] <lar1> grazie,  yes same effect when trying a different router port.
[05:51] <grazie> lar1:it must be your network config on the xubuntu machine
[05:51] <grazie> lar1: what live cds have you got?
[05:52] <lar1> ok, but on the xubuntu host I can both ping the repository hosts and look them up in dns
[05:52] <lar1> I'm not sure if it's a live cd, it's xubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[05:53] <grazie> lar1: what about kubuntu?
[05:53] <lar1> kubuntu-6.10-alternate-powerpc.iso
[05:53] <grazie> knoppix?
[05:53] <lar1> I have an old knoppix lying about
[05:54] <lar1> ... somewhere
[05:54] <lar1> got it
[05:54] <grazie> I'd try the same tests on the xubuntu machine
[05:54] <grazie> with knoppix
[05:55] <lar1> ok, should I try apt-get with knoppix?
[05:55] <grazie> nope
[05:55] <lar1> what tests, then?
[05:55] <lar1> ping and host?
[05:56] <lar1> Vilhelms, have you looked in Applications->Settings->Keyboard Settings->Shortcuts ?
[05:56] <grazie> well you could use apt-get (I think), just don't download big stuff. no room
[05:57] <grazie> the wget test would good
[05:57] <lar1> ok booting to knoppix, it's a PII 333MHz w/ 128MB
[05:58] <grazie> fine
[06:00] <Vilhelms> lar1, Yes I have
[06:12] <lar1> grazie, dns works under knoppix and I can ssh to the kubuntu host but cannot do more
[06:12] <lar1> how to I start/stop the network services in knoppix
[06:14] <bigredradio> I want to remove abiword, but apt-get states it will remove xubuntu-desktop as well. Anyway to just remove abiword using apt-get? Otherwise I can always use rm
[06:16] <grazie> lar1: it autodetects for me. From what you've just said networking is fine on knoppix
[06:17] <grazie> lar1: does your router do dhcp for setting up network?
[06:17] <tuxcrafter> hello i have a question, when I print in xubuntu 6.10 with evince and I try to change for example the paper tray it will nog accept these changes and print the default way. I have to go to cups webinterfase change the default printing systems as root and than print with evince. How can I solve this. I want to be able to change settings in the print dialog. btw openoffice printdialog workst just fine.
[06:18] <grazie> bigredradio: xubuntu-desktop is meta package, removing will do no harm
[06:19] <grazie> bigredradio: but if it then adds additions packages do not remove them (come back here)
[06:21] <bigredradio> grazie: Thanks. removed (and I'm still here)
[06:22] <lar1> yes, it does dhcp
[06:22] <grazie> te he
[06:23] <grazie> lar1: if I were you, I'd try shutting down both machines and boot the xubuntu attached to the router port that the kubuntu machines is normally attached
[06:24] <grazie> lar1: make a note the each machines ip before doing so to check it's changed
[06:24] <lar1> ok.  I think I'll try getting the router to give the IP number from the kubuntu machine to the xubuntu machine
[06:24] <grazie> yes
[06:25] <lar1> though it may be that the PII has died just now :(
[06:25] <grazie> oh no
[06:27] <lar1> it's quite old and heavily travelled.  I'll go offline and try those things. thanks for the advice
[06:47] <grazie> any virtualbox users about?
[06:51] <xubuntutester> hi
[06:51] <grazie> hello there
[06:52] <xubuntutester> can you help me ?
[06:53] <xubuntutester> i have a problem with compiling
[06:53] <grazie> !ask
[06:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:54] <xubuntutester> everytime i try compile a program it comes an error message like
[06:54] <xubuntutester> there is no gtk+ 2.1.0 or higher found
[06:54] <xubuntutester> no gui compiled
[06:54] <xubuntutester> but in synaptik i installed all gtk libs
[06:55] <xubuntutester> in arklinux it was no problem
[06:57] <xubuntutester> no idea?
[06:57] <grazie> xubuntutester: the most package is build-essential. do you have that?
[06:58] <grazie> *most important
[06:59] <xubuntutester> what? whem you mean that i need the dev* versions from the packages then i have it
[06:59] <grazie> xubuntutester: also iirc gtk+ is in libgtk+...
[06:59] <tuxcrafter> I have a question, when I print in xubuntu 6.10 with evince and I try to change for example the paper tray it will nog accept these changes and print the default way. I have to go to cups webinterfase change the default printing systems as root and than print with evince. How can I solve this. I want to be able to change settings in the print dialog. btw openoffice printdialog workst just fine.
[07:00] <xubuntutester> apt-get install libgtk+ ?
[07:00] <xubuntutester> or apt-get install libgtk+-dev
[07:00] <grazie> xubuntutester: apt-get/synaptic should sort all the dependencies for you
[07:01] <xubuntutester> oot@ubuntu:~# apt-get install libgtk+
[07:01] <xubuntutester> Reading package lists... Done
[07:01] <xubuntutester> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:01] <xubuntutester> E: Couldn't find package libgtk
[07:04] <xubuntutester> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.10.0... no
[07:04] <xubuntutester> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[07:04] <xubuntutester> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[07:04] <xubuntutester> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[07:04] <xubuntutester> Cannot find GTK! Not building GTK FrontEnd.
[07:04] <xubuntutester> and this is the error while compaling
[07:05] <grazie> !pastebin | xubuntutester:
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[07:05] <xubuntutester> ok
[07:05] <xubuntutester> sry next time
[07:05] <xubuntutester> but nobody knows the missing lib?
[07:06] <grazie> xubuntutester: use synaptic to search for packages...
[07:06] <xubuntutester> i installed every dev and so which i find with search in in synaptik
[07:08] <grazie> xubuntutester: well you obviously haven't installed everything you need yet. they don't necessarily need to be -dev packages
[07:09] <xubuntutester> i installed the 1.2 packages and the 2.0 packages
[07:09] <xubuntutester> only the perl and html binding doesn't installed
[07:12] <xubuntutester> but why should i use an ubuntu OS where it doesn't is possible to compile some tools
[07:16] <xubuntutester> and there is no support to find
[07:16] <Vilhelms> I upgraded my GTK to 2.10 and now my Windows key is being detected but when I try to use Windows+Any key for a shortcut it only reads Super_L
[07:16] <Vilhelms> I could change it in gnome but I can't figure out how to do it in xfce
[07:17] <bigredradio> xubuntutester: Dunno if this is related, but I know that Xubunu/Ubunut, etc. uses dash instead of bash. relink sh -> bash.
[07:19] <bigredradio> xubuntutester: I know that it causes some make files to fail. Maybe how it finds dependancies is broken. Just a guess though
[07:21] <xubuntutester> the scary at the problem is that i could compile the programm under arklinux withou a problem
[07:26] <grazie> xubuntutester: I agree ubuntu doesn't make it easy to find out exactly how to compile packages from source, but it's not a source based distro. The vast majority aren't interested.
[07:27] <grazie> xubuntutester: If and when I get a little time I may write some notes. But the answers are in the forums if you look
[07:27] <xubuntutester> scary scary
[07:27] <xubuntutester> and i think that Damn small Linux is heavy to setup complette
[07:28] <xubuntutester> but there was it easier to find the missigng packages
[07:33] <xubuntutester> and kasablanca doesn't find the x server?
[07:36] <xubuntutester> dis there any other irc chan where i can get help?
[07:37] <Vilhelms> I have installed GTK+2.10.9 so I can use the Windows Key, but when I try to assign a shortcut to Windows+D for example, it only reads Super_L
[07:37] <xubuntutester> vilhelms where do you grab the gtk+2.10.9 ?
[07:41] <Vilhelms> xubuntutester, The GTK+ website. I downloaded the source and compiled it
[07:51] <BFTD> yeah, I formatted a partition and now when I boot Xubuntu I get a UID error....someone wanna help?
[07:53] <grazie> BFTD: pastebin your /etc/fstab and the output from 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda' in a terminal
[07:53] <BFTD> ok
[07:53] <ComradeC> When I go to the netorking menu under the system menu, I try to save a location, but everytime I go to save a name, it just leaves the location textbox blank?  Any ideas?
[07:54] <grazie> BFTD: if your formatted partition is on /dev/hdb or /dev/sda obviously use that
[07:54] <BFTD> yeah
[07:54] <BFTD> I know
[07:56] <BFTD> I know whats wrong
[07:56] <grazie> k
[07:56] <BFTD> I just ca't remember how to fix it
[07:56] <BFTD> http://pastebin.ca/357504
[07:56] <BFTD> sda2 is the one giving me trouble
[08:00] <grazie> BFTD: is formatting the only change?
[08:00] <BFTD> yes
[08:00] <BFTD> size and type are still the same
[08:03] <grazie> BFTD: Does the error give you the UUID?
[08:03] <BFTD> yes
[08:03] <grazie> and it is?
[08:04] <BFTD> fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)
[08:04] <BFTD> fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=e55c4aa2-5031-4d40-a820-c0f2bead29bd'
[08:04] <BFTD> fsck died with exit status 8
[08:05] <BFTD> grazie that't the error
[08:07] <grazie> BFTD: ah! You've got an file system check error, not a mounting error
[08:07] <BFTD> oh, yeah
[08:07] <BFTD> sorry to mention that
[08:07] <grazie> BFTD: how did you format the partition?
[08:08] <BFTD> FC6 partitioner
[08:08] <BFTD> I needed it for work
[08:10] <grazie> BFTD: as root "umount /media/sda2'
[08:10] <BFTD> can't
[08:10] <BFTD> I'm on that
[08:10] <BFTD> you mean sda2?
[08:11] <BFTD> oops
[08:11] <BFTD> read that wrong
[08:11] <BFTD> ok
[08:11] <BFTD> whats next?
[08:11] <grazie> from where did you format the partition?
[08:12] <BFTD> from the FC6 Install CD
[08:12] <grazie> and where are you now?
[08:15] <BFTD> Xubuntu
[08:15] <BFTD> on partition sda3
[08:15] <BFTD> FC is on sda2
[08:15] <grazie> BFTD: and you want FC zapped?
[08:16] <BFTD> no
[08:16] <BFTD> I just want this error to go away on boot up of Xubuntu
[08:16] <grazie> ? but you formatted /dev/sda2 ?
[08:17] <BFTD> grazie yes
[08:17] <BFTD> too install FC6
[08:17] <BFTD> Jester45 whats up with the bots?
[08:18] <grazie> BFTD: when I said zap I meant remove all the data on /dev/sda2...is that ok?
[08:18] <Vilhelms> I installed GTK+2.10.9 to fix the Windows Key Problem but now when I try to bind a shortcut with Windows, like Windows+D it only reads Super_L
[08:19] <BFTD> grazie well, I guess, I haven't installed anything other then the OS
[08:20] <grazie> BFTD: are you preparing to install FC6 on /dev/sda2?
[08:21] <BFTD> grazie already did
[08:22] <grazie> BFTD: but you said you formatted /dev/sda2!
[08:22] <BFTD> grazie yes, to install FC6
[08:22] <BFTD> which I did
[08:23] <grazie> BFTD: nothing went wrong with the install?
[08:23] <BFTD> grazie nope
[08:24] <grazie> BFTD: can you boot FC6?
[08:24] <BFTD> grazie yes
[08:24] <BFTD> grazie becasue I formatted the partition, the UID changed
[08:24] <sacater> hey guys, whats that little bar you can get on the bottom of the screen with icons. And when you hover over one, it grows bigger than the rest and you can click on it
[08:24] <BFTD> all I want to do is figure out how to get the new one
[08:25] <grazie> BFTD: try replacing the UUID with /dev/sda2 and reboot
[08:25] <grazie> BFTD: ok?
[08:25] <BFTD> ok
[08:26] <grazie> sacater: varous docks
[08:26] <sacater> ok
[08:26] <sacater> ill look it up
[08:26] <grazie> sacater: engage, kiba-dock
[08:26] <sacater> erm
[08:27] <sacater> which one is best for xfce
[08:27] <grazie> sacater: not part of xfce
[08:27] <sacater> ag
[08:27] <sacater> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3p8IBNNd88 #
[08:27] <grazie> sacater: Dreamlinux uses engage - works quite well I think
[08:27] <sacater> its shown 36 seconds into that video
[08:28] <sacater> well i want one that is ubuntu comap
[08:28] <sacater> compat*
[08:29] <grazie> sacater: not loading for me yet..too busy. I suspect it's kiba-dock.
[08:30] <Vilhelms> I installed GTK+2.10.9 to fix the Windows Key Problem but now when I try to bind a shortcut with Windows, like Windows+D it only reads Super_L
[08:30] <OGDA> ok, all works well
[08:31] <sacater> grazie i cant find it
[08:32] <grazie> sacater: not in the repos I don't think ... try this link to confirm kiba-dock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS4Z5VghfhE
[08:33] <sacater> grazie: thats the one, where do i get it
[08:34] <grazie> sacater: dunno...I think it's naff :)
[08:34] <sacater> hmm okay
[08:35] <grazie> BFTD: somehow your UUID got got changed
[08:35] <BFTD> grazie thats waht I said
[08:35] <grazie> BFTD: does FC6 use UUIDs?
[08:35] <BFTD> it changes when you reformat the partition
[08:36] <BFTD> grazie no
[08:36] <grazie> are there no FC6 channels?
[08:43] <sacater> does anyone here know of a good screen recorder
[08:44] <grazie> sacater: screencastings?
[08:45] <sacater> never heard of it but ill look it up :P
[08:45] <grazie> sacater: pictures or movie?
[08:46] <sacater> movie
[08:48] <grazie> sacater: there's a ubuntu server that can be used with vnc, but never done it myself
[08:49] <grazie> sacater: to produce a flash movie
[08:49] <sacater> kk ty
[08:50] <sacater> ah hell ill use my digi camera and mini-tripod
[08:53] <grazie> heh
[08:54] <xubuntutester> /usr/local/kde/bin/kasablanca kasablanca: cannot connect to X server
[08:54] <xubuntutester> whats wrong with the tool?
[08:59] <grazie> xubuntutester: #kubuntu are more likely to know the answer
[09:05] <sacater> grazie: sure you dont know where i can find kiba dock
[09:09] <grazie> sacater: no idea... but I can look...you may have to build from source?
[09:09] <sacater> can do, i build everything from source
[09:09] <sacater> please do look
[09:09] <sacater> cos i cant find it
[09:12] <sacater> grazie: does it HAVE to use xgl
[09:12] <grazie> sacater: no idea...not my kinda thing...here's a .deb http://www.silksoul.com/edgy/kiba-dock_0.1cvs20061110matt-1_i386.deb
[09:13] <sacater> ty
[09:15] <grazie> np
[09:16] <sacater> grazie: okay, i have it installed, was there any instruction on how to run it
[09:16] <rip> hello all
[09:17] <grazie> sacater: dunno...got the link from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=312789
[09:17] <sacater> kk
[09:17] <rip> newbie on xubuntu-fr, i need some help to configure my sound
[09:18] <rip> not und any info on google and ubuntu forums
[09:18] <grazie> hi rip
[09:18] <rip> hi grazie
[09:18] <grazie> rip: no sound at all?
[09:18] <rip> nope
[09:18] <grazie> rip: new install?
[09:18] <rip> on this laptop yes
[09:18] <rip> its a special
[09:19] <rip> sony vaio t1xp
[09:19] <grazie> no install problems?
[09:20] <rip> nope, all ok; even for wide screen 1280x768
[09:20] <rip> found this old website
[09:20] <rip> http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/sony_vaio_t1xp_linux.html
[09:20] <grazie> rip: in a terminal do 'alsamixer;
[09:20] <rip> 1. Install the ALSA soundsystem. If I enter 'dpkg -l | grep alsa' today, the
[09:20] <rip>    following lines appear:
[09:20] <rip>    ii  alsa-base      1.0.8-7        ALSA driver configuration files
[09:20] <rip>    ii  alsa-utils     1.0.8-3        ALSA utilities
[09:20] <rip>    ii  alsaplayer     0.99.76-0.3    PCM player designed for ALSA
[09:20] <rip>    ii  alsaplayer-com 0.99.76-0.3    PCM player designed for ALSA (common files)
[09:20] <rip>    ii  alsaplayer-gtk 0.99.76-0.3    PCM player designed for ALSA (GTK version)
[09:20] <rip>    ii  alsaplayer-oss 0.99.76-0.3    PCM player designed for ALSA (OSS output mod
[09:20] <rip> 2. In the file /etc/hotplug/blacklist add a line at the bottom with: snd_intel8x0m
[09:20] <rip> 3. In the file /etc/modules add on two separate lines:
[09:20] <rip> snd_ac97_codec
[09:21] <rip> snd_intel8x0
[09:21] <rip> 4. After a reboot the sound should work properly.
[09:21] <rip> 5. Well, please note, that there is a sound on/off-switch on the front of the
[09:21] <rip>    notebook; it should be set to 'on' (orange LED is then off)
[09:21] <grazie> pastebin | rip
[09:21] <rip> yes the mixer in the xterm window qappears
[09:21] <rip> pastebin?
[09:22] <grazie> rip: use pastebin for bin large amounts of text
[09:22] <rip> dont konw this function sorry
[09:22] <grazie> rip: http://pastebin.ca/
[09:22] <LordGamer> afternoon all
[09:23] <grazie> rip: paste text onto this (or other) website
[09:23] <sacater> grazie: kiba dock has started, but nothing new is showing up
[09:23] <grazie> sacater: I know nothing!
[09:23] <sacater> kk
[09:24] <LordGamer> Anyone know a X264 mencoder GUI?
[09:24] <rip> ok, i'll do next time
[09:24] <grazie> rip: that link is quite on old kernel
[09:24] <rip> yes but was unable to find anything related to lnux on this laptop
[09:24] <sacater> grazie: may I make i tiny swear, but not offending anyone
[09:25] <grazie> rip: do any the the channels have MM at the bottom (particulary Master and PCM)
[09:25] <grazie> sacater: no
[09:25] <sacater> darn
[09:26] <sacater> well ill say that kiba is &&&*(^&^) brilliant!
[09:26] <sacater> you got to get it
[09:26] <grazie> !language | sacater
[09:26] <ubotu> sacater: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:26] <grazie> :)
[09:26] <sacater> ubotu
[09:26] <sacater> is he a bot
[09:26] <rip> no, master and pcm are NOT mm
[09:26] <grazie> yes, was asleep, but awake again
[09:28] <grazie> rip: try this link for sound trouble  shooting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[09:28] <rip> ok, thanks
[09:29] <rip> i use to read the french forum and doc
[09:29] <rip> let's try this one
[09:29] <rip> thank you
[09:29] <grazie> np
[09:29] <grazie> sacater: kiba-dock is now working?
[09:29] <sacater> yes
[09:29] <grazie> what's your hw
[09:31] <grazie> sacater: ?
[09:31] <sacater> erm
[09:31] <sacater> 128mb nvidia chip
[09:31] <sacater> and 3G proccessor
[09:31] <sacater> x86
[09:31] <grazie> sacater: no wonder
[09:55] <grazie> maxamillion: hey
[09:56] <rip> hello again
[09:56] <rip> gracie
[09:56] <rip> i found the pb
[09:56] <rip> for the sound
[09:56] <grazie> k
[09:56] <grazie> rip: and....
[09:57] <rip> You can get sound working at this point by running amixer
[09:57] <rip> amixer set 'External Amplifier' mute
[09:57] <grazie> ah well
[09:57] <rip> that was just taht
[09:57] <PCGenie> hello, i am looking for ubuntu 6.06 howto docs for setting ports on a web/email server, where can i get server docs?
[09:57] <rip> merci encore grazie
[09:57] <grazie> rip: prego
[09:57] <maxamillion> grazie: hello
[09:58] <grazie> maxamillion: what was the name of the rpm site you gave me...I can't find it and forgot  to bookmark
[09:59] <grazie> maxamillion: also do you use virtualbox at all?
[09:59] <maxamillion> grazie: i have no clue ... it was after a 20 minute google search following links :(
[09:59] <maxamillion> nope, never used it ... i read about it though
[09:59] <grazie> maxamillion: sorry :(
[09:59] <maxamillion> no worries ... but i really don't know if i could find it again
[10:00] <grazie> I should remember to bookmark good links!!!
[10:06] <Stu_2> quit
[10:09] <grumpymole> ~5D5C
[10:10] <grazie> grumpymole: no clue
[10:13] <Maximilian1st> hey hyper_ch :-)
[10:13] <Maximilian1st> Guten abend.
[10:14] <PCGenie_> hello all: i am looking for howto manuals for setting up my amd64 server. i am coming from the mandrake realms and testing ubuntu on the server i am rebuilding. i need to know how to control the ports
[10:14] <grazie> hyper_ch: hi
[10:15] <grazie> hyper_ch: I'm just trying virtualbox out
[10:17] <PCGenie_> hyper_ch, what system config and version are you using? x86? x64? which ubuntu?
[10:19] <BFTD> how do I get grub to boot something that ends in "xen" like vmlinuz-2.6.18-1.2798.fc6zen
[10:26] <ComradeC> does anyone know why when i hit ctrl alt f2 for a text console it just loads like the grey/white xserver screen instead?
[10:27] <maxamillion> ComradeC: not sure .. try ctrl+alt+f1 maybe?
[10:27] <ComradeC> it does it for all of them
[10:27] <ComradeC> its just xubuntu that does this
[10:27] <ComradeC> it does the same thing when booting, like it wont show the console when I turn on the computer
[10:28] <kalikiana> that's definitely not the normal behavior in xubuntu
[10:28] <ComradeC> hmm thats odd
[10:28] <ComradeC> could it be the fact that maybe my cdrw was damage
[10:29] <ComradeC> cause I was using a really old crusty one
[10:29] <ComradeC> but it still went through?
[10:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> If the install media was damaged, anything could happen.
[10:30] <ComradeC> its odd cause i have a vmware install of the same disk and it does the same thing
[10:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Does the md5 of the iso match the official md5?
[10:32] <ComradeC> didnt check
[10:32] <ComradeC> thanks ill look at it though
[10:33] <grazie> ComradeC: should...always :)
[10:33] <grazie> hey this virtualbox is very good
[10:39] <grazie> anyone have problems using CD-RW disks for booting Xubuntu?
[10:45] <Vilhelms> Is there a way to make the Launcher on the Panel expand instead of having a submenu?
[10:47] <grazie> Vilhelms: like a dock?
[10:54] <Jester45> ummm Vilhelms are you meaning the menu or a launcher
[10:55] <Vilhelms> The launcher that goes on the Panel
[10:55] <Vilhelms> You right click on the panel > Add Item > Launcher
[10:55] <Jester45> grazie: no i use rw for the herd images
[10:56] <Jester45> ok mine dont expand i just have a luacnher for each program
[10:58] <Jester45> Vilhelms: thats the only way i know of having it
[10:59] <grazie> Jester45: rw and cd-rw are different?
[11:00] <Jester45> grazie: i ment rw as in cd-rw as in cd- rewriteable
[11:01] <grazie> Jester45: the same as what I've been doing
[11:01] <Jester45> i use it because the herd iso change
[11:01] <grazie> I've tried about 8 burns the evening and only got one successful boot with a cd-rw :(
[11:01] <Jester45> maybe your drive doesnt support rw as a boot disc
[11:01] <Jester45> guess not
[11:01] <grazie> first burn was fine
[11:02] <Jester45> how are you erasing it
[11:02] <grazie> ah well...that may be problem
[11:02] <Jester45> i use the full erase takes longs but its more complete
[11:03] <grazie> I was using graveman...but not used it before for erasing. so now I'm trying OS X
[11:03] <Jester45> i use k3b
[11:04] <grazie> had no problem with quick erase in the past but...
[11:05] <Vilhelms> Is there a way to make the Launcher on the Panel expand instead of having a submenu?
[11:06] <grazie> Jester45: k3b is a great app...but I wouldn't want it on xubuntu
[11:06] <Jester45> what do you mean by expand
[11:06] <Jester45> grazie: i would and i have :)
[11:07] <grazie> Vilhelms: I don't know what you mean either
[11:15] <PCGenie_> hello; i am new at ubuntu, installed 6.06 lamp; how do i write a cd iso?
[11:17] <Jester45> run the command "man growisofs" without quotes
[11:21] <Vilhelms> I'm talking about the launcher that comes on the top panel in the default xubuntu install next to the Applications menu. It comes with firefox by default and you can add applications. Its kind of a quicklaunch thing
[11:21] <MightyMountai1> Excuse me, how do I extract a file via terminal?  I know the file name, and the destination, but I need to use terminal because I need root access.
[11:21] <Jester45> yes if you want it not to have a menu make a new launcher
[11:22] <Jester45> MightyMountai1: what kind of file
[11:22] <Vilhelms> MightyMountai1, If its a tar then "tar xvf <filename>" If its a tar.gz you can do "tar xvzf <filename>"
[11:22] <MightyMountai1> jester45:  Sorry for not including that originally.  tar.bz2
[11:22] <Vilhelms> MightyMountai1, tar xvjf <filename>
[11:23] <MightyMountai1> Thank you both!
[11:23] <Jester45> MightyMountai1: you can use F2 then type gksu xarchiver
[11:23] <Jester45> if you want a root gui
[11:23] <MightyMountai1> Great, thanks!!  Can I use that for any program?  Just type gksu before it?
[11:23] <Jester45> yes
[11:24] <MightyMountai1> Thanks again!
[11:24] <allBecauseTheLad> hi all trying to get an epson scanner working gt 7000 . is supported and have sane and xane packages installed
[11:24] <Jester45> and for cli programs use sudo
[11:24] <allBecauseTheLad> but I'm not sure if the backend is installed........... anyone have Ideas ???
[11:25] <Jester45> install the backend?
[11:25] <Jester45> do you know what the backend is
[11:26] <allBecauseTheLad> SANE EPSON Backend
[11:26] <Jester45> is it in the repos?
[11:28] <allBecauseTheLad> mmmmmm I pulled it down from the site but it code and I'm running kubuntu, so I dont know about gcc and where i need to put the fiels
[11:28] <allBecauseTheLad> sorry files
[11:39] <CyberCod> Hi people
[11:39] <Jester45> hi
[11:41] <CyberCod> I am having trouble doublsizing xmms in xubuntu edgy... Ive narrowed it down to the composite, but I dont know how to disable it, as it is not turned on in xorg.conf
[11:43] <CyberCod> anyone have any ideas?
[11:43] <Jester45> nope
[11:43] <crimsun> composite is enabled by default in edgy
[11:43] <crimsun> you have to explicitly /disable/ it in xorg.conf
[11:44] <CyberCod> ok, so    Option omposite 0  ?
[11:45] <CyberCod> or would it be off or false
[11:46] <grazie> Jester45: burn failed yet again. Do I install k3b on Xubuntu or do I have to boot XP and use Nero
[11:46] <grazie> Jester45: not an easy choice
[11:47] <Jester45> loil
[11:53] <prairie_dad> how do I mount a webdav volume in xubuntu.  In ubuntu I use nautilus "connect to server," but it isn't in Thunar...
[11:53] <Jester45> A FTP SITE?
[11:54] <prairie_dad> no, a webdav, using the https://server.domainname.tld format.  that's what nautilus and mac os x call for.
[11:56] <Jester45> o i dont know
[11:57] <prairie_dad> in fedora, as in ubuntu (well, i guess I should say in Gnome) you go to places, then connect to server, which launches nautilus.  but in xubuntu, I don't know...any thoughts out there?
[11:58] <Jester45> you could use nautilus
[12:01] <hyper_ch> grazie: hiho
[12:02] <grazie> hyper_ch: hi
[12:02] <hyper_ch> how is virtual box?
[12:02] <grazie> hyper_ch: very good.
[12:02] <grazie> hyper_ch: about to reboot with knoppix though
[12:03] <prairie_dad> well, the problem with that is that it has a lot of ubuntu/gnome deps, and I wanted to keep my xubuntu clean and xcfe-ish.  I mean, if I want gnome and its apps, I could just do ubuntu.  but this is for an older, slower PC I am resurrecting.
[12:04] <hyper_ch> grazie: good that it works... did you also have to chmod something and make sudo depmode?
[12:05] <hyper_ch> prairie_dad: running single appz isn't like running the whole framework... xfce uses also gkt, doesn't it?
[12:05] <grazie> hyper_ch: no. actually using it on a different distro right now
[12:05] <hyper_ch> grazie: ^^
[12:06] <Jester45> hyper_ch: xfce uese gtk but if the package needs a part of gnome apt will download it
[12:07] <prairie_dad> yes, hyper_ch, it's almost all gkt, that's the point of xfce.  (is ch for switzerland?  bin lange im deutschsprachigen Raum gewesen, et je parle francais aussi, malgre que je suis US americain.)
[12:07] <grazie> gosh a hate kde...even on knoppix....where is everthing?
[12:09] <hyper_ch> I like the KDE appz
[12:09] <hyper_ch> that's why I run so many of those
[12:09] <hyper_ch> ouais, CH --> Confederation Helvetica
[12:09] <hyper_ch> prairie_dad: I can also talk german :)
[12:09] <prairie_dad> kde would never work on this old dog I am fixing up
[12:09] <prairie_dad> but are you swiss, and if so from where?
[12:10] <hyper_ch> St. Gall but originating from Solothurn
[12:10] <hyper_ch> well, I don't use KDE.. I just use a lot of KDE appz
[12:11] <grazie> a few kde apps are good...but the system.............
[12:11] <hyper_ch> lemme check... I have
[12:12] <hyper_ch> kopete, konversation, konqueror, kate, k3b, amarok, krfb, krdc, ktorrent, kftpgrabber, kontact
[12:14] <grazie> hyper_ch: yeah, I like k3b, konversation, konqueror and believe ktorrent is good
[12:16] <prairie_dad> long time since I was in Skt. Gallen...bin 2002 von Italien nach Deutschland durchgefahren (mit der Bahn) aber der letzte richtige Besuch muss 1984/5 gewesen sein, schade.  werde Nautilus versuchen, aber eine andere loesung waere mir lieber...mal sehen was mein alter box mit mehr als xcfe macht...
[12:17] <grazie> !de | prairie_dad:
[12:17] <ubotu> prairie_dad:: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:19] <prairie_dad> oh, I don't need german help, I'm bilingual, I was just reacting to someone with _ch in their handle.  but thanks for the tip.  have you got an idea about webdav mounting in xcfe/xubuntu without resorting to Nautilus...?
[12:20] <grazie> prairie_dad: sorry no. I've no knowledge of webdav
[12:21] <grazie> grazie: as for language...most on this channel are mono lingual...so we need the help! :)
[12:21] <hyper_ch> grazie: you can learn other languages :)
[12:22] <hyper_ch> being monolingual is no excuse :)
[12:22] <grazie> hyper_ch: yeah sure, c, c++. python, java,...
[12:24] <BFTD> hey maxamillion