[04:03] <mathesis> how can define in lts.conf screen 1024x768?
[04:30] <jaime_k> May I ask general questions here?
[04:30] <jsgotangco> go ahead there aren't much people online at the moment though
[04:31] <jaime_k> I was wondering how hard it was to use edubuntu in a netboot environment.
[04:31] <jaime_k> I have Macs at my school that use Apple's NetBoot and the ISC-DHCP server (running on FreeBSD and configured by hand) at the moment.  I have no experience with Linux network booting.
[04:32] <jsgotangco> i am not familiar with netbooting with macs :/
[04:34] <jaime_k> In brief:  The Apple NetBoot feature "injects" itself inside existing DHCP infrastructures.  You sort of just turn it on in the GUI of the server and don't modify the existing DHCP server at all.
[04:34] <jaime_k> I'm not entirely sure how it does it, to be honest.  :)
[04:36] <jaime_k> My big question, though, is how hard is the edubuntu netbooting?
[06:58] <cbx33> hey Burgundavia
[06:58] <jsgotangco> hey
[06:58] <cbx33> hey js
[06:59] <jsgotangco> how's it going
[06:59] <cbx33> good, u?
[07:00] <jsgotangco> its alright
[07:00] <jsgotangco> nothing much happening though
[07:00] <cbx33> heh
[07:01] <cbx33> same here
[07:04] <cbx33> howz the job
[07:06] <mathesis> hi
[07:06] <mathesis> les regalo unos pics
[07:06] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG007.JPG
[07:06] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG006.JPG
[07:06] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG008.JPG
[07:07] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG009.JPG
[07:07] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG010.JPG
[07:07] <cbx33> can you stop pasting
[07:07] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG011.JPG
[07:08] <crimsun> no pete, pasting is the new fad.
[07:08] <mathesis> http://www.compuevolucion.cymaho.com/IMG013.JPG
[07:08] <cbx33> heh
[07:08] <mathesis> check the last image
[07:08] <mathesis> check  las link ;)
[07:09] <mathesis> cyber coffe linux with edubuntu ;)
[07:09] <cbx33> cool ;)
[07:09] <cbx33> ping burgundavia
[07:10] <mathesis> its cool edbuntu
[07:10] <mathesis> i love edubuntu
[07:10] <mathesis> ;)
[07:10] <mathesis> see you tomorrow
[07:13] <RichEd-1> hi cbx33 mathesis
[07:13] <cbx33> hey rich
[07:14] <jsgotangco> hey RichEd
[07:14] <RichEd> you're up early pete ?
[07:14] <jsgotangco> hello
[07:15] <cbx33> rich yes
[07:15] <cbx33> got a meeting with corey
[07:15] <cbx33> trying to catch him earlier so he can sleep
[07:18] <Burgundavia> cbx33: you up now?
[07:18] <Burgundavia> rock
[07:19] <cbx33> yup
[07:19] <RichEd> hey Burgundavia ... good early morning to you
[07:19] <Burgundavia> good evening RichEd
[07:19] <Burgundavia> is 20 past 10 here
[07:19] <cbx33> on pocketpc, typing speed limited
[07:20] <cbx33> if you need more i'll switch to laptop
[07:20] <Burgundavia> shall we switch to gobby?
[07:20] <cbx33> heck lemme do that
[07:20] <cbx33> ooooh
[07:20] <cbx33> lemme get laptop then
[07:20] <Burgundavia> ok
[07:24] <pete_> hey Burgundavia
[07:24] <pete_> on laptop now
[07:24] <Burgundavia> have you got a gobby server or do I need to poke a hole in my firewall?
[07:25] <pete_> i don;t have one
[07:25] <Burgundavia> ok, I will do so
[07:25] <pete_> i only just installed gobby
[07:25] <pete_> thanks
[07:26] <Burgundavia> ip in pm
[07:44] <LaserJock> hi guys
[07:49] <Burgundavia> hey LaserJock
[07:53] <pete_> hi LaserJock
[07:53] <pete_> Burgundavia, you kill the server?
[07:56] <pete_> hey Burgundavia_ what happened?
[07:56] <Burgundavia_> pete_: sorry, laptop power died
[07:56] <Burgundavia_> did you get everything
[07:56] <Burgundavia_> ?
[07:56] <pete_> 6yup
[07:57] <Burgundavia_> ok, good
[08:25] <highvoltage> msg nickserv identify fa shizzile dizzile ma nizzle fizzle bizzle
[08:26] <LaserJock> wow, that's quite the password highvoltage
[08:27] <ajmitch> it was :)
[08:28] <Burgundavia> oopos
[08:39] <RichEd> ping highvoltage & hello to LaserJock & ajmitch
[08:39] <ajmitch> hi RichEd
[08:51] <highvoltage> LaserJock: it's my geky gangsta rap way of saying good morning :)
[08:51] <highvoltage> RichEd: pong
[12:30] <ogra_> juliux, i just went to the postbox ....
[12:30] <ogra_> many many thanks !
[12:30] <ogra_> !!!
[12:31] <juliux> ogra_, happy birthday
[12:31] <ogra_> thanks !
[12:31] <juliux> *sing*
[12:31] <ogra_> heh
[12:31] <juliux> we need sound over irc;)
[12:31] <cbx33> ogra: it's your birthday?
[12:31] <ogra_> yep, a bit ...
[12:31] <juliux> cbx33, yes it is;)
[12:31] <cbx33> HAPPY BIRTHDAY dude!!
[12:31] <ogra_> thanks !! :)
[12:32] <cbx33> feedback from Corey on chapter was good
[12:32] <cbx33> thanks fro all the help on that ogra
[12:32] <cbx33> are you ok with me logging bugs for tcm in malone now?? just so that I don;t forget them?
[12:32] <ogra_> sure
[12:32] <juliux> ogra_, the sparc is running fine with ltsp and fluxebox
[12:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> ogra, a bit?
[12:32] <cbx33> yeh i didn't get that either Kamping_Kaiser
[12:33] <juliux> cbx33, i only get it because i ask ogra_ if i can come to essen this weekend to our edubuntu weekend;)
[12:33] <ogra_> Kamping_Kaiser, well, there are others :)
[12:33] <ogra_> its not only my b-day :)
[12:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> ogra_, i'm not sure i see, but happy birthday ;)
[12:34] <juliux> in this channel it is your birthday;)
[12:34] <cbx33> ogra_: you mean it's other peoples too?
[12:34] <ogra_> juliux, right, in the canonical channel i actually share it with two others :)
[12:36] <juliux> ogra_, if you need more stickers let me know, i have here 3500 stickers;)
[12:37] <ogra> nice ...
[12:37] <ogra> for UES i think
[12:37] <juliux> i have 500 edubuntu
[12:37] <juliux> 1500 ubuntu, 1000 kubuntu and 500 xubuntu
[12:37] <juliux> but i think we can get more from jenda
[12:37] <ogra_> i should probably sell them on the edulinux meeting next week :)
[12:38] <juliux> hehe
[12:38] <juliux> you can make a good profit with them;)
[12:38] <juliux> one sticker cost us 0,07
[12:39] <cbx33> are they nice stickers?
[12:39] <ogra_> yep
[12:39] <juliux> cbx33, i will make a picture if i have a digikam
[12:39] <cbx33> :( - no i dont
[12:39] <jsgotangco> stickers! i like!
[12:40] <cbx33> ogra: should i be filing bugs against source or product?
[12:41] <ogra_> highvoltage, any specific core packages apart from all these plugins you want in ?
[12:41] <ogra_> cbx33, depends ... what for ?
[12:42] <cbx33> tcm
[12:42] <ogra_> source
[12:42] <rockprincess> Happy Birthday Ogra, just seen it!!!!!
[12:42] <cbx33> methinks ogra wanted to keep it quiet....NO WAY !!!
[12:42] <ogra_> rockprincess, thanks :)
[12:43] <cbx33> when would we file against product?
[12:43] <ogra_> upstream bugs ...
[12:43] <cbx33> i see
[12:43] <ogra_> but since you are upstream in ubuntu, you can keep them in one place
[12:44] <ogra_> at the point where other distros adopt it (i could imagine redhat and k12) you need the upstream one
[12:44] <rockprincess> am I the only one who wants to have a kubuntu sticker instead of an ubuntu one?! :D
[12:44] <cbx33> right i see
[12:45] <ogra_> rockprincess, they are available ...
[12:45] <cbx33> what type of stickers are they?
[12:45] <juliux> rockprincess, i have also kubuntu ones;)
[12:45] <ogra_> edubuntu ones werent until recently ... :)
[12:45] <cbx33> are they the ricking case ones
[12:45] <juliux> cbx33, the powered by stickers
[12:45] <rockprincess> juliux: i know, and you'll hopefully get me one when you come over to vienna....pleasssse! :)
[12:45] <ogra_> cbx33, the replacements for "designed for the bad thing from M$)
[12:46] <cbx33> YAY
[12:46] <cbx33> how can we get hold of some?
[12:46] <ogra> come to UES :)
[12:46] <cbx33> heh
[12:46] <juliux> hehe
[12:46] <cbx33> not the most helpful of ideas :p
[12:46] <juliux> cbx33, or ask jenda he prints the stickers
[12:47] <cbx33> I'm willing to pay for some
[12:47] <cbx33> the kids would love them here ;)
[12:47] <juliux> cbx33, i also get the stickers from him
[12:47] <cbx33> they've been after those stickeres for ages
[12:47] <cbx33> :(
[12:50] <jsgotangco> UDS
[12:52] <pips1> !seen RichEd
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen riched - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <pips1> edubuntugirl: !seen RichEd
[12:52] <edubuntugirl> pips1: *blink*
[12:52] <pips1> ack
[01:00] <pips1> edubuntugirl: tell RichEd I'm hoping to briefly talk to you on irc today, please let me know your availability in the next 4 days before you travel
[01:00] <edubuntugirl> Righto, pips1!
[01:00] <pips1> ta
[02:47] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl: announce Happy birthday ogra!
[02:47] <edubuntugirl> Hear Me Now!  Hear Me Now!  Announcement from highvoltage!  'Happy birthday ogra'!
[02:49] <ogra> hehe, thanks
[02:49] <cstextiles> ogra_:  Happy Birthday ogra heard from highvoltage
[02:50] <highvoltage> ogra: on the Xfce packages, I suppose the best would be to do an apt-cache show xubuntu-desktop and remove all the stuff that doesn't make sense to include, such as abiword, xubuntu-artwork, etc
[02:52] <ogra> yep
[02:52] <ogra> i'm just finishing with the firsdt set of seeds ...
[02:52] <ogra> i dont expect it to be perfect initially c:)
[02:53] <highvoltage> it doesn't seem that there's that much that can go wrong though.
[02:54] <pips1> ogra is it true?
[02:54] <pips1> Happy birthday, then!!
[02:54] <ogra> pips1, thanks :)
[02:55] <pips1> Hope you are getting to be somewhere in the sun today! :-)
[02:55] <ogra> MY DESK IS IN THE SUN :)
[02:55] <pips1> (It's nice and sunny here in Zurich)
[02:55] <ogra> OOPS
[02:55] <ogra> sorry
[02:56] <pips1> ?
[02:56] <ogra> didnt mean to shout
[02:56] <pips1> caps lock
[02:56] <pips1> hehe
[02:56] <pips1> my office is rather dark, but I had a nice bicycle ride earlier :)
[03:17] <ogra_> it would be nice if people could please check that and give some feedback http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ship-addon
[03:20] <juliux> ogra_, what is with the mount-plugin for xfce?
[03:21] <ogra_> gnome-volume-manager is already installed, afaik it uses that if available
[03:21] <cbx33> :(
[03:22] <juliux> the mount-plugin is only a applet like the diskapllet for the gnome pannel
[03:22] <cbx33> phimage has a memory leak :(
[03:22] <ogra_> if not, feel free to suggest it
[03:22] <cbx33> but i can't see why
[03:22] <ogra_> juliux, is it in main ?
[03:22] <juliux> ogra_, yes apt-cache show xfce4-mount-plugin
[03:22] <ogra_> i can add all kind of stuff as long as its in maijn :)
[03:22] <juliux> great
[03:23] <cbx33> heheh
[03:23] <juliux> ogra_, is there a deadline for the addon cd?
[03:24] <pips1> ogra what about x-chat? is that included on the cd by default for feisty?
[03:24] <ogra_> juliux, not for stuff thats already in main ...
[03:25] <ogra_> pips1, i'm not yet sure if we shouldnt add it to the first CD
[03:25] <juliux> ogra_, good
[03:25] <pips1> ah
[03:25] <ogra_> i will have to rip out the stuff i just moved ...
[03:25] <ogra_> so we will have free space, but i dont know how much yet
[03:26] <pips1> what about including some games?
[03:26] <pips1> just a thought :)
[03:29] <pscheie> ogra_: in the 6.10 livecd are some of the kedu packages removed (presumably for space reasons) ?
[03:30] <ogra_> we never shipped all of kdeedu ...
[03:30] <ogra_> only a set of packages ... and as far as i remember we never removed any
[03:30] <ogra_> kdeedu removal only makes sense as a whole, the apps are not the space consuming parts
[03:31] <pscheie> I'm just comparing 6.10 with K12ltsp 6, and k12 has a few more edutainment apps
[03:31] <pscheie> not sure if Eric adds those or what
[03:31] <pscheie> e.g. KGeography
[03:31] <pscheie> I thought that was part of kde edu
[03:32] <pscheie> not a big deal
[03:33] <pscheie> I generally install k12, 'cause I'm used to it, but give out edubuntu livecds to people so they can check it out on their own
[03:33] <pscheie> they're obviously not identical, but close enough
[03:33] <ogra_> k12 has five CDs or so ...
[03:34] <ogra_> we have one ... (now two with feisty)
[03:34] <pscheie> will the live cd be two cds?
[03:34] <ogra_> it's always a matter of space :)
[03:34] <ogra_> nope
[03:34] <cbx33> :( - GAH memory leaks are a pain
[03:34] <ogra_> the liveCD will have a selection of the best of the two install CDs
[03:34] <cbx33> and I have no idea why it's happening
[03:35] <ogra_> i have to figure out this week how to shuffle the packages rigth
[03:35] <pscheie> I like the livecd to show off the apps, don't need the ltsp parts
[03:35] <pips1> live = "best of" --> wow!
[03:35] <cbx33> ogra_: you don;t have any tips for memory leakage in python do you?
[03:36] <pscheie> pips1: right; otherwise we have to give the teachers a laptop with the whole shebang installed
[03:36] <pscheie> live CDs < $ than laptops
[03:37] <pscheie> ogra_: if the apps are not the space consumers, what are?
[03:38] <pips1> language packs
[03:38] <pips1> for the apps
[03:38] <pscheie> ah, that makes sense
[03:38] <ogra_> pscheie, libs and translations
[03:38] <ogra_> for one 200k kdeedu app i need half of kde on the CD
[03:39] <pips1> right
[03:39] <pscheie> right, I kinda figured that
[03:40] <pscheie> I've been trying to figure out a way to build a livecd for k12 but considering an installed system consumes >3GB, it wasn't looking good
[03:40] <pscheie> then it dawned on me: edubuntu has most of the apps
[03:41] <pscheie> has anyone tried building a livedvd?
[03:42] <ogra_> why ? we have one ...
[03:42] <ogra_> no need that you extra build another one :)
[03:43] <pscheie> right--I'd much rather use someone else's work than do my own ;-)
[03:43] <pscheie> I'm just a little slow, it didn't occur to me until recently
[03:44] <pscheie> does edubuntu have a live dvd?
[03:47] <pips1> pscheie: http://www.edubuntu.org/Download "The DVD image contains both the live, and install ISO's, as well as all the packages officially supported by Ubuntu"
[03:48] <pscheie> ah, I was just looking at the mirror at the local university here, which doesn't have the dvd iso
[03:48] <pscheie> thanks pips1
[03:50] <pips1> well, I'm actually not sure where to get the dvd... the link on edubuntu.org/Download brings you to the *daily build* which is for testing purposes only
[03:50] <pips1> ^^ ogra?
[03:51] <pscheie> I see an edgy dvd iso from Oct. 2006
[03:51] <pips1> pscheie: where?
[03:51] <pscheie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/current/
[03:52] <pips1> oh, I didn't pay attention
[03:53] <pips1> I was only looking at the title of the page, but indeed, you can find both 6.10 release (edgy) and the daily build for feisty
[03:53] <pips1> :)
[03:54] <pscheie> pips1: do you know if the live dvd includes kgeography?
[03:54] <pscheie> the live cd doesn't seem to have it
[03:54] <pips1> I don't know
[03:54] <pscheie> but i'm not sure if it's part of kde edu or not
[03:55] <pscheie> I don't see it listed in the manifest for the dvd
[03:55] <pips1> yeah, I was just checking myself :) so... no.
[03:58] <pscheie> the kgeography website says it ships with kde-edu 3.5
[03:58] <pscheie> what version of kde edu is in edubuntu 6.10?
[03:59] <pips1> I don't think ubuntu main has the whole of kde-edu.. (not sure)
[03:59] <bddebian> Heya
[03:59] <pscheie> that's what I was asking ogra about, if they pick & choose parts from kde edu or include the whole bundle
[04:00] <pscheie> it seemed like he indicated they just put the whole bundle in (why wouldn't they?)
[04:00] <pips1> well, up to know, we had severe space limitation on the single cd...
[04:01] <pscheie> right, I can appreciate that
[04:01] <pscheie> that's why I thought perhaps the dvd would have the whole bundle
[04:02] <pips1> I think the dvd is a bit of a "second class citizen", i.e. it's just a combination of the live and install CDs
[04:03] <pips1> afaik
[04:04] <pscheie> perhaps I'll try remastering the live cd, toss out some language files, put in some apps
[04:04] <pscheie> make it a 'greatest hits' disk as you suggested
[04:05] <pscheie> does the live cd include the ltsp parts?
[04:05] <pscheie> I would not need or want those
[04:05] <pscheie> since the point is to just show off the apps that come with it, to give to teachers, etc.
[04:08] <pips1> right
[04:08] <pips1> about the dvd, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307060
[04:11] <pips1> ^^^ note that this is a community project
[04:11] <pips1> i.e. not an official release
[04:11] <pscheie> anyone know how much space the GUI installer takes up on the live cd?
[04:12] <pscheie> I'd think not too much, but I really have no idea
[05:23] <cstextile1> Is there any way to get the workstation id or no like ws001 from the LTSP client so that i can use in the shell script for some custom operation?
[05:26] <pscheie> cstextile1: $LTSP_HOSTNAME
[05:27] <cstextile1> pscheie: This works in the Edubuntu 6.10 as I had tried set command to see all the variables but could not find?
[05:27] <pscheie> hmm, now I can't find it either
[05:27] <pscheie> try $DISPLAY
[05:28] <cstextile1> Does set command shows all the variables?
[05:28] <pscheie> env
[05:28] <cstextile1> What is the $DISPLAY shows?
[05:28] <pscheie> env command shows all environment variables
[05:28] <pscheie> $DISPLAY is an environment variable, not a command
[05:29] <cstextile1> ok so "env" is the command  I had typed just "set" to see the variables
[05:29] <cstextile1> what does plain "set" command shows
[05:29] <pscheie> it shows the workstation number or address of your client
[05:29] <pscheie> type 'echo $DISPLAY'
[05:30] <cstextile1> pscheie: Ya I got that I will try from Edubuntu amchine which is at a different location and so asked you that
[05:30] <pscheie> I think set is a holdover from C shell or some other earlier shell
[05:31] <cstextile1> pscheie: ya that's why after showing some variables it shows some C constructs
[05:38] <pscheie> if you want just the workstation number you can do this:
[05:38] <pscheie> echo $DISPLAY|cut -d. -f1
[05:38] <pscheie> and it will strip off the other parts
[05:39] <cstextile1> I got that I have wrote that command and I will use the same command
[05:39] <cstextile1> so it will give me the workstation no
[05:41] <mathesis> hi ogra
[05:41] <pscheie> cstextile1: right
[05:43] <cstextile1> pscheie:Thanks for the same
[06:10] <Laser_away> ogra: pingy pingy, pitti approved rasmol MIR
[06:11] <ogra> Laser_away, pfft, already seeded ....
[06:11] <ogra> :)
[06:11] <Laser_away> lol
[06:12] <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/20070216/
[06:12] <ogra> i only managed to get 88M ob the addon CD yet
[06:12] <ogra> *on
[06:13] <ogra> if i get to 200 i'm good :)
[06:13] <ogra> (average between the arches)
[06:15] <cbx33> ping ogra ogra_
[06:27] <Laser_away> ogra: will the 1st CD get more?
[06:57] <jbrefort> Laser_away, commited your patch with a few cosmetic changes
[06:57] <Laser_away> jbrefort: cool, thanks
[07:54] <Sigurd112> ahoi
[11:02] <mathesis> hi
[11:02] <mathesis> where is documentatio for lts.conf in edubuntu
[11:02] <mathesis>   /usr/share/doc/
[11:22] <Thrallie> #archlinux
[11:22] <Thrallie> #archlinux