[05:15] <jk_> hi, anyone here using eclipse-gcj?
[05:19] <doko> yes
[06:07] <eeos> hi there. are packages of the open source version of sun java already available in k-x-ubuntu?
[06:22] <jk_> hi doko, are you there?
[06:23] <eeos> hi there. are packages of the open source version of sun java already available in k-x-ubuntu? I read documentation on the net, but info is pretty confusing. Is sun java already open or not? there are apparently contradicting positions.
[06:24] <doko> no
[08:00] <guyvdb> hi
[08:00] <guyvdb> is anybody active here?
[08:23] <doko> you seem to be active ;)
[08:32] <guyvdb> :)
[08:32] <guyvdb> i was wondering what this channel was about
[08:32] <guyvdb> mainly because i'd like to develop java software for ubuntu
[08:40] <guyvdb> but i guess there's not really an audience for that
[09:12] <doko> maybe not, it's more about providing java support in ubuntu, i.e. packaging 
[09:31] <guyvdb> so is there anything i can do?
[09:45] <doko> guyvdb: sure!
[09:46] <doko> not sure, how much you want to do ... our next big task will be the packaging of maven2
[09:46] <doko> that includes about 50 new source packages
[09:47] <guyvdb> i see
[09:47] <guyvdb>  i'm afraid that i have 0 experience with packaging
[09:52] <doko> guyvdb: you can learn it :)
[09:53] <guyvdb> i'd like to yes
[09:53] <doko> find an application, which is not yet packaged for ubuntu (start with a small one)
[09:54] <guyvdb> so maven does what exacly? i creates jar files from eclipse projects? isnt that built-in?
[09:54] <doko> well, yes, eclipse-3.3 uses it
[09:54] <doko> but maven is not a starter project
[09:54] <guyvdb> hm
[09:56] <guyvdb> i'll hang out in this channel, see what i can pick up
[09:57] <guyvdb> i've tried reading the devel mailing list but it's not very interesting for a beginner 
[09:59] <doko> http://httpunit.sourceforge.net/
[09:59] <doko> would be a small example (and needed for maven)
[10:00] <doko> you may want to subscribe to #ubuntu-motu as well
[10:00] <doko> irc & ML
[10:01] <guyvdb> thanks
[10:02] <guyvdb> i gtg, i'll check it out in an hour
[10:03] <doko> maybe look at another package as an example, i.e. libxerces2-java
[11:15] <guyvdb> reading the ubuntu packaging guide...