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dfarningshoud be the forth link down on the lp page12:25
dfarninghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/~mozilla-bugs/+packagebugs12:26
asacdfarning: hmmm i don't come to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox hierarchy from there12:26
asaci mean ... those are just quicksearches for bugs ... but no links to the main page of the package12:27
dfarningi have not found out how to link directly yet12:28
dfarningwe could list each package manually on the lp12:28
asacyeah ... but on our home page it should be pretty easy :)12:28
dfarningi'll take that hint;)12:29
dfarningon my todo12:29
asacty12:29
asacbut maybe it should be something that is automatically shown by lp ?12:30
dfarningwe have already been hammering the lp team with enough requests for this week;)12:31
asaci still don't get it why we need a subteam mozilla-bugs12:31
asacwhats the difference other than more maintenance overhead :)12:31
asaccan you setup a list on what requests we have submitted and that are pending?12:32
asacwould help a lot not to submit duplicates :)12:32
dfarningin order to make the -bugs mailing list work12:32
asacok ... and on what purpose do we assign bugs to that team?12:33
asacto allow opt-out from bugmail?12:33
dfarningwe want -bugs subscribbed to bugs so bug spam is directed to the mailing list rather then mt members12:33
asachehe bug spam :)12:33
dfarningright12:33
dfarningalso the bugbot in irc is a member of -bugs12:34
asachmmm ... am i subscribed already?12:34
asaci can't remember :)12:34
asacotherwise I won't be subscribed to bugs anymore :/12:35
dfarningI don't think so but...12:35
Admiral_Chicagoasac: you are just on mt, not -bugs12:35
asack12:35
dfarningI am still trying to unsubscribe mt from the bugs12:35
asacwhere are links to our mailing lists?12:36
dfarningthat is what AlexLatchford  was asking about this morning12:36
dfarningchecking12:36
dfarninghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam under contacts12:37
asacdfarning: ... but no word about -bugs :)12:38
dfarningi will add -bugs12:38
asac:)12:38
asacok subscribed ... will i receive duplicates for now?12:38
dfarningevolution is filtering out my dups;)12:39
asaci think my mail setup does that too ... but depends on how mails are send12:40
dfarningasac, what is our agreement with mozilla on patching fx?12:42
Admiral_Chicagoafk people. let me know if you need anything12:43
Admiral_Chicagobtw, i edited wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion12:43
Admiral_Chicagoshould clear up some issues people were telling me about12:43
asacdfarning: we currently ship it with original branding01:00
asacwe submit patches for approval01:00
asacthey review with high priority ... at least i hope so :)01:01
asacAdmiral_Chicago: maybe that page should be split in pieces?01:02
Admiral_Chicagoasac: how can I make it better? i mean what pieces specifically01:02
asacAdmiral_Chicago: maybe move specific install approaches to separate page each and just outline existing methods on main page?01:05
Admiral_Chicagohmm, I saw that, maybe I'll print it out and hack on paper01:05
Admiral_Chicagoi'm going to return to my homework though01:08
Admiral_Chicagoi do work offline sometimes.01:08
asacgood for your eyes :)01:10
Admiral_Chicagoblah, my eyes are terrible. I'm at my desk but reading at a book and not looking at the screen01:10
gnomefreakasac: http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/Thunderbird-Edgy/ its done uploading01:13
gnomefreakuploading feistys atm01:14
Admiral_Chicagobtw, latest fx isn't in feisty yet01:14
asacnot yet built01:14
asac:)01:14
asachttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu101:15
gnomefreaklatest fx? you mean 2.0.0.1?01:15
gnomefreakoh been there done that01:15
gnomefreak:)01:15
asacshould be built for i386 too soon i guess01:16
gnomefreakasac: should i mark the bug as fix released after done uploading feistys patched tb?01:16
gnomefreakasac: didnt i build that yesterday?01:16
asacgnomefreak: ... we don't fix it :)01:16
asacyou can mark it as fix committed01:16
gnomefreakah ok who fixes it than?01:17
asacwe don't upload to feisty with new patches01:17
gnomefreakoh01:17
asacthese are packages for our convenience atm01:17
asacuntil thinks with mozilla have worked out01:18
gnomefreakah ok01:18
asacaka patch approval process is running01:18
asacs/think/thing/01:18
gnomefreakyou have to ok all patches with mozilla?01:18
asaci don't think that this will be an issue in the long run01:20
gnomefreakok but edgys can still be uploaded (after checking with mozilla)?01:21
asacwill work out quite well once we have reviewed our current patches01:21
asacwhat do you mean?01:21
asacon security updates, we update edgy, of course01:21
gnomefreakasac: the replytolist patch for edgy's tb01:22
asacno ... new features are for new relesaes01:22
gnomefreakoh ok01:22
asacbut that has nothing to do with mozilla, but rather sane release policy01:23
asacyou just cannot update features if you want to maintain huge software collection in a stable fashion01:23
gnomefreakoh ok01:24
gnomefreakasac: i know i figured atleast backport this to edgy (many people are looking for this fix)01:24
gnomefreakincluding AlexLatchford01:24
asacyeah we can release it from an mozillateam repository01:25
gnomefreakoh your repo is gonna be the latest/greatest patches features we cant release to archive.u.c01:26
asacgnomefreak: we can do that ...but maybe we have to build firefox with unoffical branding for that repository. mozilla.org does the same for nightlies, so it is fair imo.01:27
gnomefreakagreed01:28
Admiral_Chicagocan we chose one that doesn't suck (blue globe is terrible)01:28
asacgnomefreak: actually i don't want to setup a repo to upload arbitrary improvements to. But if there is demand it can be included.01:28
Admiral_Chicagoi'd like a testing repository so we can mark bugs as fix release01:29
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: the one we have is fine :) i have  ablack ff logo but shhhh01:29
Admiral_Chicagoblack? i use the original Fk logo01:29
Admiral_ChicagoFx*01:29
asacAdmiral_Chicago: release to a testing repository is fix committed for us i would say01:30
asacreleased is only when uploaded to main01:31
asacreasonable?01:31
Admiral_Chicagooh right, i thought commit was main, release was fixed in testing01:32
asacrelease and rejected are final states (as far as I understood) ... commit is available for testing/preview01:32
Admiral_Chicagoi'll check on Bugs wiki01:33
asack01:33
gnomefreakif you have another patch handy to build i can run it over night01:35
asachey ... you could replace the included tarball in archives directory with original upstream tarball and see what happens :)01:36
Admiral_Chicagobear with my paste..01:36
Admiral_Chicago#01:36
Admiral_Chicagonah, pastebin01:36
asacAdmiral_Chicago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu101:37
asaci386 is built01:37
asac:)01:37
gnomefreakthats a bit over my head i think01:37
Admiral_Chicagohttp://pastebin.ca/35797601:37
asacyep01:38
asac'that a fix was uploaded' ... refers to main01:38
asac:)01:38
gnomefreakoh hell i can do that01:38
asacgnomefreak: you want to?01:39
gnomefreakand rebuild it and hope it doesnt break it ;)01:39
gnomefreakasac: sure01:39
asacok:01:39
asacin changelog ... choose new upstream version01:39
asacas this will be a new orig.tar.gz01:39
asacwhat is the current version ?01:39
gnomefreakof what tb?01:40
asacj01:40
asacy01:40
asac1.5.0.9-0ubuntu1+mt01:41
gnomefreakyou want this with tb or ff01:41
asactb01:41
asacfirefox is already migrated :)01:41
gnomefreakah ok01:42
gnomefreakyes thats tb version01:42
asacyou can take01:42
asac1.5.0.9+1-0ubuntu0+mt for the version :)01:42
gnomefreakwhat do i rename it to?01:42
gnomefreakah ok01:42
gnomefreakno need to play with rules or control right?01:43
asacnot atm01:43
asacok01:43
asac1. adapt version (done)01:43
asac2. replace tarball inside archives/ dir01:43
asac3. tar the archives dir up01:43
asac-> new orig.tar.gz ... look at how the directory layout is in current orig.tar.gz01:44
asacthen you just need to replace the proper filename of the original tar.bz2 you placed inside the archives dir01:44
asacin debian/rules01:44
asacthat should at least allow you to build01:45
asacad 2. ... replace the tar.bz2 file in archives/ with the original upstream tar.bz2 from ftp.mozilla.org01:45
gnomefreakok ill give it a shot. and this is for tb 1.5newest not 2.0 right01:46
asacyes01:46
asac1.5.0.901:46
gnomefreakk01:46
asacor was it 10 already?01:46
asachmm01:46
asaclatest available01:46
asac:)01:46
asacsame as in archives/ directory01:46
asaci would say01:46
gnomefreakok01:46
asacmaybe you get something done... might brake branding here and there ... but maybe it will just build and we can look on what is broken then :)01:47
asacgood luck ... have to go to bed soon :)01:47
gnomefreakk ill give it a shot. the archive dir only has a tar in it01:48
asacyes ... replace that01:48
asacadapt filename of that in debian/rules01:48
asacbut remember to retar orig.tar.gz01:49
asacwith the new upstreamversion01:49
asac1.5.0.9+101:49
asacin its name01:49
asacso ... mozilla-thunderbird_1.5.0.9.orig.tar.gz i guess01:49
asacso ... mozilla-thunderbird_1.5.0.9+1.orig.tar.gz i guess01:49
asacof course01:49
gnomefreakok01:49
gnomefreakhere is feistys tb you wanted give it a while to finish uploading http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/Thunderbird-Feisty/01:50
asacok will do tomorrow .. have bookmarked01:50
asaccu ... thx :)01:51
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Admiral_Chicagonewest Fx has been put on the repos08:44
Admiral_Chicagoinstalling it now08:44
AlexLatchfordwhich repos?08:45
Admiral_Chicagofeisty08:45
AlexLatchfordoh ok08:45
AlexLatchfordwhats Feisty like>08:45
AlexLatchfordstable?08:46
Admiral_Chicago2.0.0.2 i think. should have a bug fix to one that I have08:46
Admiral_Chicagopretty stable, a lot more stable than Edgy testing was08:46
AlexLatchfordhmm okay08:46
Admiral_ChicagoI have four bugs but they are all reported08:46
AlexLatchfordI am thinking about making the update at Herd4 or 508:46
Admiral_Chicago2 related to X, one to desktop icons, one related to screen resolution.08:47
AlexLatchfordreally want to try out the new network Manager08:47
AlexLatchfordhmm okay08:47
Admiral_Chicagooh and one related to Fx, but that was upstream08:47
AlexLatchfordaha ok08:47
Admiral_Chicagoi don't use GNOME so I'm not sure08:47
Admiral_Chicagothere is some really cool stuff in Feisty08:47
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Admiral_Chicagothe Herd 4 page should be done by now08:48
Admiral_Chicagoanyways, don't you have class ever?08:49
dfarningAdmiral_Chicago,  speaking of class. don't you sleep?08:56
Admiral_Chicagodfarning: reading.08:56
Admiral_ChicagoI have a test tomorrow, have to read up on the Qur'an08:56
dfarningenjoy, I am going back to bed.  Just got up for a snack;)08:57
Admiral_Chicagodfarning: i wish I could go to bed. I have another 40 pages.08:57
Admiral_Chicagonight08:57
dfarningouch good luck08:57
Admiral_Chicagoit's not intense, just tedious. well see ya around08:58
AlexLatchfordlol I go to class Freddy, but its normally when you are asleep09:04
AlexLatchfordI have a few mornings and afternoons off a week though, only have 1 day where I have to go in for all lessons09:05
Admiral_Chicagoah well my classes are usually 16 UTC - 23 UTC09:05
Admiral_Chicagoman I got lucky Alex, one class on Tuesdays and Thursday at 2 - 3.30 PM09:06
Admiral_Chicagoslept all morning, almost missed lunch09:06
Admiral_Chicagohave you seen this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd409:07
Admiral_Chicagoi really like the migration stuff09:07
asachi12:19
asacyou had problems with the new build so far?12:19
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dfarningmorning all02:01
gnomefreakmorning ill be around (on phone with irs02:06
dfarningphone with irs? sounds like a lot of time on hold02:08
gnomefreakbtw asac there is no 1.5.0.10 release. the latest is 1.5.0.902:09
gnomefreakit is02:09
asacyep02:10
asacwill be out soonish02:10
gnomefreakk02:10
asacgnomefreak: can you give me your url please?02:11
asaconce more02:11
asac:(02:11
gnomefreakhttp://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/02:12
gnomefreakpick a file you want from ther02:12
gnomefreakwhy cant a talk to a frigging person :(02:13
asacdunno ... pulling02:15
gnomefreaki foresee this being an all day afair :(02:18
asacgnomefreak: oh02:19
asacedgy-security02:19
asachmm02:19
asacthing it should be edgy :)02:20
asacbut doesn't matter for now02:20
gnomefreakasac: what?02:20
gnomefreakwhat should be in edgy-security?02:20
asacah02:21
asacin changelog02:21
asacfirst line02:21
asacyou use edgy-security as target distribution02:21
asacwhich should be edgy i guess02:21
asacas this is not a security upload02:22
gnomefreakah oops :( can be changed02:22
asaccan keep it now02:22
asaci won't upload the .changes file anyway ... so nobody can just reupload to official archive02:22
asacso it doesn't matter if I don't get things wrong02:23
gnomefreakah02:23
Admiral_Chicagohave a good day everyone!02:28
gnomefreakyou too02:32
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dfarningasac, where was the link to fx patches? I lost it02:38
gnomefreakdo we have patches ready for implmenting into either?02:40
=== gnomefreak wonders if i can do the same thing with tb 2.0 that i was gonna do with 1.5.0.10
gnomefreakthat way at the very least i have .debs for it02:47
gnomefreakasac: is that even worth a try? this way i can build -snapshot .debs (including patches like the replytolist one) mainly for my own personal use since i love tb 2.002:58
asacgnomefreak: I guess patches will not apply03:15
gnomefreakoh :(03:15
asacgnomefreak: but try :)03:15
gnomefreaki will try if you need something more pressing let me know03:26
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gnomefreakasac: it looks like only patch 91_fontsfix_359763 will stick. it failed on everyother patch including the one i wanted in there. :( oh well worth a shot04:20
gnomefreaklooking in the tb archive to see if it was added or not04:23
=== gnomefreak testing the tb builds i did yesterday
gnomefreakit doesnt look like it was included in the tb build. (the replytolist patch) atleast for feistys build05:05
gnomefreakok oops forgot to install the .xpi ;)05:41
gnomefreaki just uploaded the .xpi to my thunderbird feisty and edgy folders05:43
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poningruasac: I had couple of other ideas for mozteam05:59
=== gnomefreak has a few too but :X
poningrulike having a peter6 like posts in ubuntu forums for all the moz packages05:59
gnomefreakpeter6?06:00
poningruits a well known guy in mozzine forums06:00
asacponingru: peter6?06:00
poningruhold on06:00
poningruhttp://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=2306:01
poningrutake a look at the posts created by peter606:01
poningruwe can provide a .deb for testers06:01
poningruor a repo06:01
asacponingru: ah ... ok you want automated rc builds somewhere06:01
asachmm06:01
poningruyeah06:01
poningruI just dont have the proc power for such a project06:02
gnomefreakwhat packages do you want us to put in a forum? me confused06:02
poningrugnomefreak: like latest builds of firefox06:02
poningrufirefox gp06:02
poningruand mf06:02
asacgnomefreak: he wants that we upload weekly builds to my people.ubuntu.com repo for instance06:02
poningruright06:03
gnomefreakare we doing weekly builds?06:03
asacnot yet06:03
gnomefreak:)06:03
poningruyeah I didnt know that either06:03
poningrubut doing that for all moz packages06:03
asacwe just have tbird and ff for now06:03
poningru:(06:04
asacthe main problem i see is that I don't have all archs here06:04
poningruwhat are we missing?06:04
gnomefreakasac: i have 386 for all your needs06:04
poningrulol06:04
gnomefreakedgy+fesity06:04
poningrugnomefreak: I dont think he is missing that ;)06:04
gnomefreakponingru: he has 6406:04
asacyeah ... but as soon as you (gnomefreak) contribute, I would need to setup a real upload queue with gpg check and all06:04
poningruoh...06:04
asacwhich of course needs some time to setup :)06:05
poningruasac: or you know provide you with a account on the ssh capable box06:05
gnomefreakasac: well i am fairly comfortable with contributing when you are ready :)06:05
asacponingru: can you be here on monday?06:05
asac2000 UTC?06:05
poningruyes sir06:05
gnomefreakponingru: 3pm for you :)06:06
asacwe have a meeting then ... maybe you can put this on the agenda06:06
poningruuh... wait what?06:06
poningrucrap06:06
poningruno I cant06:06
asaci will think about  how much work it would be for me to set things up06:06
poningruoh wait yes I can06:06
asac:)06:06
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poningruI will be like 5 mins late06:06
poningrubut is cool06:06
poningrumy class gets out then06:06
gnomefreakadd it to agenda and we will wait for you on that agenda point06:07
poningruawesome06:07
asacgreat ... can't promiss that we will get started with weekly builds in the next 2 weeks ... but at some point we should definitly have some06:07
poningruawesome06:07
poningrualso I wanna decrease the release time of firefox security point releases06:08
gnomefreakasac: are the patches made per version of package? like the replytolist.dpatch is only for tb versions 1.5*?06:08
asacmostly yes ... some might still apply cleanly on 2.0 branch ... but some might not06:08
gnomefreakponingru: seeing as we didnt have a maintainer until a week or 2 ago poningru it should get closer together06:09
gnomefreak2-3 maybe06:09
asacponingru: i have to work with pitti on improving responsiveness with security builds06:09
poningruasac: let me know what I can do to help06:10
asacponingru: what is your feature-set?06:11
poningruwhat do you mean?06:11
poningrumy featureset?06:11
asacyeah :) ... what can you do and what not :) ... what do you want to learn, what not :)06:11
poningruoh hehe06:11
gnomefreaki guess i can build the snapshots without the patches :(06:12
poningruum... not much really, I am not really that good of a coder06:13
poningrubut I can do patching, testing etc.06:13
gnomefreakponingru: patching? as in repackage with the patch added?06:14
poningruI dont know the moz codebase as much as I would like to06:14
poningrugnomefreak: :p06:14
poningruyeah I know... trivial06:14
gnomefreaknot really06:14
asacponingru: .... so you can do basic packaging work?06:14
asacponingru:06:14
poningruyeah learning that right now06:14
poningruwould love to06:14
gnomefreakhint that all goes towards the decreased point releases06:14
asacponingru: thats fine ... i think there are plenty of things to do :) ... but most importantly we need more people that lurk on bug mail and care for those that lack information :)06:15
asacits best to start working on need info issues ... in that way one gets a good overview on what bugs exist and what symptoms they have06:18
asaclater one can help out in screening newly posted bugs and working to ensure that a bug getse properly processed upstream06:18
=== gnomefreak will be doing bug day either sat. or sun.
gnomefreakis it safe to remove all ubuntu patches and build it?06:27
asacno :)06:28
=== gnomefreak read a few patches and didnt see anything to easily change :(
asacit might be safe to drop all patches that do not effect a Makefile.in or configure.in06:28
gnomefreakmakefile patch wasnt allowed06:28
asacbut that is quite a shot in the dark :)06:29
poningrumakefile?06:29
asacwhat?06:29
poningruwhat happened to mozconfig?06:29
asacdoes not exist :)06:29
poningruwaah06:29
gnomefreakhold on let me see if i still have the errros.06:29
asaci plan to consolidate packages post feisty06:29
asacthen I will use mozconfig06:29
gnomefreakponingru: all ubuntu packages need a make file or they wont be allowed in ubuntu06:29
poningru0.006:29
asacfor now configure switches are carefully selected :)06:29
poningruok did not know that06:29
poningrueek06:29
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asacponingru: what is the source of scaryness?06:30
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asac:)06:30
poningruhas never tried building any moz packages without mozconfig06:30
asacponingru: ... its pretty much the same06:30
asacin debian/rules06:31
gnomefreak50_arch_mips_Makefile_fix not applied to ./ .   was not gonna be applied and killed the build06:31
poningruah06:31
asacconfigure is invoked with all the options06:31
asacthat make -f client.mk would use06:31
asacgnomefreak: you can drop all mips/arm/m68k patches06:31
asacthose are for architectures we don't have in ubuntu06:31
poningruah gotcha06:31
gnomefreakhttp://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/359237 were all the ones i had to remove06:32
gnomefreakthe only one that would build was a font patch06:32
asacwhy?06:32
gnomefreak91_fontsfix_35976306:32
asacall failed?06:33
gnomefreakasac: didnt ask it :(06:33
asacthe output in pastbin is not a fail06:33
gnomefreakyes06:33
gnomefreaki can paste the failures if you like06:33
asacno ... if you say they failed06:33
asacthen you are right06:33
gnomefreakapplying patch 10_pangoxft_linkage to ./ ... failed.06:33
asacgnomefreak: what did you try? which upstreawm version?06:34
gnomefreak2.0b206:34
asacjust the font patch applied?06:34
gnomefreakbut it would fail 1 or 2 than i would remove them run it again failed another few and did that until all patches were gone06:34
asachmm06:35
asacdid you edit 00list06:35
asac?06:35
gnomefreakthats the only one i didnt get an fail notice on i didnt try to build it after that06:35
gnomefreakyep06:35
gnomefreakremoved patch than deleted it from 00list06:35
asacyeah ... then you are probably out of luck06:35
asac70_single_typeaheadfind_package06:36
asacis needed06:36
gnomefreakk06:36
asacwithout that the typehaeadpackage will be messed up06:36
gnomefreakwill try again to make sure :)06:36
asacotherwise ... will do it eventually ... but takes some time:)06:36
gnomefreakand it wouldnt let me name it bleh0ubuntu1+mt becasue of the ubuntu so i figured i wouod use dfsg06:38
asachmm06:38
asacversion would be 1.99+2.0b-0ubuntu106:38
gnomefreakit said something about the maintainer didnt have a ubuntu address06:38
asacdid you add yourself as maintainer?06:39
gnomefreaknope06:39
gnomefreaklol06:39
asacor just in changelog?06:39
gnomefreakchangelog06:39
asacwhat did you do?06:39
asactook 1.5.0.9 package ... replaced upstream tarball ... changed changelog ... and what else?06:39
gnomefreakjust added my the stuff to changelog and rules06:39
gnomefreakleft control alone06:40
asacpaste your chlog06:40
asacentry06:40
gnomefreakdont have it anymore :( since the patches wouldnt apply but im gonna redo it in a few monutes06:40
asacyeah ... probably just apt-get source06:40
asacreplace upstream tarball06:41
asacchange name of tarball in debian/rules06:41
gnomefreakyep06:41
asactar up new orig :)06:41
asacuse version as above06:41
gnomefreakno +mt?06:41
asacah ... yeah use ... 1.99+2.0b-0ubuntu0+mt106:42
gnomefreakk06:42
gnomefreakand remove patches as they fail?06:42
asacjust remove from 00list06:43
gnomefreakk06:43
asacok ... unavail for a few hours again :)06:43
gnomefreakkeep maintainer feild with you06:44
gnomefreakhave fun ill let you know how it goes later06:44
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gnomefreakdpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address.   is the error i get with 0ubuntu0+mt107:29
gnomefreakasac: thats the error i get with your email in control.08:16
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dfarningponingru, don't belive I have met you;)08:45
dfarningasac, ping09:05
gnomefreak@schedule09:26
gnomefreakgrrrrrr09:27
dfarning@schedule09:29
gnomefreakthe plugin is disabled in here09:29
dfarningjust wondering what it did;)09:30
dfarninghows the build going09:30
gnomefreakim stuck. im working on the beta thunderbird and the versioning is clashing with asac's email as maintainer09:31
dfarning some thing new to learn;)09:31
gnomefreakyep :)09:33
gnomefreakok just pinged the guy i need09:34
gnomefreaki can change the package version but i kind of like the 0ubuntu0+mt setup as it is09:36
dfarningis the -mt portfix a permanent thing or just for testing09:36
dfarningpostfix09:37
gnomefreaknot sure im thinking permanent but would have to ask asac  on that09:37
dfarningok09:37
gnomefreakwiki is slow as crap today :(09:38
gnomefreakagenda == https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings please add to agenda with anything that needs to be discussed09:38
=== dfarning was going to start working on agenda items
dfarningbut i'll wait til you are done working on the page09:40
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-mozillateam:gnomefreak] : Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu Mozilla Team | Our page can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | The team is still under-construction. | [asac] repackaged firefox uploaded to feisty | Next meeting will be Feb. 19 2007 at 20:00UTC in #ubuntu-meeting.
gnomefreakdfarning: i should be out of it09:40
dfarningok thanks09:41
dfarningalso going to work on the todo page09:41
gnomefreakcool09:41
dfarninggoing to add external contacts section09:41
gnomefreaki thin kwe have one already just not sure wher eit is09:41
gnomefreakponingru: whats your LP ID?09:41
dfarningso we know who is talking to who09:42
gnomefreakok cool09:42
dfarningit is poningru i looked him up a few hours aga;)09:42
gnomefreakah ok i had it but couldnt remember it09:42
dfarningi think several of us spamed mdz with trademark question a few days ago09:45
dfarningopps09:45
=== gnomefreak hasnt touched that subject. i know better
dfarninggnomefreak sticks to safe stuff like packaging the most popular application in the distro:)09:48
gnomefreakyep :) it works for me. i got the 2 thunderbird builds set so the replytolist works :)09:49
dfarningthank goodness we have asac to herd us. I was starting to worry;(09:49
gnomefreakok fixed a link on the todo page09:52
dfarningty09:52
gnomefreakhmmmmm09:53
dfarningI am subscribe to all of the wiki pages so i can follow changes09:53
=== gnomefreak used to be subscibed to alot of them i just gotten to ignore them in email :(
dfarningI have asked Helio if he would be interest in maintaining our bughelper stuff09:55
gnomefreakhas our changes been uploaded to bughelper or just on you local bughelper09:56
dfarningI have not yet committed our cluefile.09:57
dfarningI will do so. to figure out bzr if nothing else09:57
=== gnomefreak thinks we should have instructions on what bughelp can do for us once the uploads are in.
dfarningwhat do you mean09:59
gnomefreaka wiki on how to use bughelper for best results when it comes to mozilla bugs10:01
dfarningok Ill add that to my todo list10:02
dfarningthe really cool thing is the ability to scan for strings in attachment10:02
gnomefreak:)10:03
dfarningwill help to find related crashes--after they are retraced10:03
gnomefreakwhat firefox release did you upload to feisty asac ?10:15
gnomefreaknvm seems to be 2.0.0.1+1-1 :)10:21
gnomefreakwth is wrong with linking10:43
dfarningon the wiki?10:44
gnomefreakyeah10:45
dfarningwhat problems are you having10:45
gnomefreakfound a dead link and im trying to fix it no matter how i do it it shows up as the full link. here ill show you page let me save it10:46
gnomefreakhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs10:46
gnomefreakthe last section10:46
gnomefreaki tried  with [bleh]  and {{{  }}}10:46
dfarningchecking10:46
gnomefreakhere is the linking page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Procedures10:47
gnomefreakhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/BugProcedures will make it show as link but its wrong link10:48
dfarning[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Procedures BugProcedures]  seem to work10:49
gnomefreakhm tried that10:51
dfarningit worked for me in preview10:51
gnomefreakits not showing up right here10:53
gnomefreakVisit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Procedures BugProcedures for an Introduction10:53
gnomefreakis how i see it10:53
dfarningtry view the page now10:56
dfarningyour lock times out so i save the change10:56
dfarninglooks right here10:56
gnomefreaknow it looks right. maybe it is my lock10:56
gnomefreakty10:57
dfarningcould be the wiki save really sloooowly10:57
dfarningyw10:57
gnomefreakasac: the new version of ff in feisty only had trademark changes?11:04
asacgnomefreak: the version in feisty is a repackaged package ... i worked hard to have nothing changed though :)11:10
asacanyone read bugmail today? are there new bugs introduced by this upload?11:10
gnomefreakwell we have changes from what one reporter says11:11
gnomefreaki have atleast one11:11
asaclet me know11:11
asacwhat has changed?11:11
gnomefreakhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/8558711:11
UbugtuMalone bug 85587 in firefox "[feisty]  Back/Forward buttons cease to work" [Undecided,Needs info] 11:11
gnomefreakbunch of crashes too but havent looked at what version yet11:11
asaccan you reproduce?11:12
gnomefreakno11:12
asaccan you purge firefox ... and install from feisty11:12
asacand see what happends?11:13
Admiral_Chicagocan't reproduce either11:13
gnomefreaki tried it earlier before i commented on it11:15
asacyeah ... but you used your build?11:16
asacthat might make a difference as the current package has been build on autobuilders11:17
gnomefreakah ok ill try in a bit11:17
gnomefreakworking through these crash reports with no info :(11:19
gnomefreakok give me a minute11:21
asacsure :)11:22
gnomefreakim about to lose everything too11:23
asachah?11:25
=== Admiral_Chicago is gone for the weekend.
Admiral_Chicagotalk to you all tomorrow11:26
dfarninghave a good weekend11:26
Admiral_Chicagoyou too.11:27
asacbye11:27
Admiral_Chicagoi'll be back sometime tomorrow but I'm going to be out and about11:27
=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam
gnomefreakthe hell do they do that stupid shit11:38
gnomefreakin an hour or so i will beable to test it11:39
Admiral_Chicagogood work gnomefreak. blew up my inbox but that's okay11:40
gnomefreaknow everything is fucking crashing including hald and gdm and there are about 20 total11:40
gnomefreakim still getting crashes11:40
gnomefreakxorg11:40
gnomefreak*warning* DONT EVER REMOVE --PURGE FIREFOX WHILE ON GNOME11:41
gnomefreakty Admiral_Chicago more to come i crashed before i could finish11:41
gnomefreakwhat is the agenda page?11:42
gnomefreaki have no browser installed atm since removing firefox take all other gecko browsers11:42
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak: yes, that info is on wiki.ubuntu.com/firefoxnewversion11:43
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-mozillateam:gnomefreak] : Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu Mozilla Team | Our page can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | The team is still under-construction. | [asac] repackaged firefox uploaded to feisty | Next meeting will be Feb. 19 2007 at 20:00UTC in #ubuntu-meeting. | The agenda for the meeting is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings.
Admiral_ChicagoWarning: If you use this guide, do not remove the Ubuntu version of Firefox. Doing so will break the following packages: Yelp (help viewer), Epiphany, Gnome-app-install (Add Applications), Liferea, Blam and any application requiring the Gecko rendering engine.11:45
gnomefreakwhen was that changed?11:45
gnomefreakit used to only be 3-4 packages11:46
gnomefreakdont forget ekiga gnome-desktop-enviornment and so on11:46
Admiral_Chicagothat info has been around, I cleaned up that page several wonts ago11:46
Admiral_Chicagomonths*11:46
gnomefreakgnome-core11:47
dfarningjust a couple of the important ones;(11:48
gnomefreakdoesnt understand why they have ff as a depend when ubuntu-desktop has it11:49
gnomefreakhint removing ff should not make X and gnome crash EVER11:51
=== dfarning adding check dependancies to todo list
gnomefreakdfarning: apt-cache policy show :)11:53
gnomefreakbut they are mostlike reverse depends11:54
gnomefreakwhat was the bug number?11:55
gnomefreakah i got it :)11:55
dfarningI meant add why are they depends11:55
gnomefreakasac: unable to reproduce11:55
dfarningdo you guys have any stuff you would like me to do or followup on this weekend?11:56
Admiral_Chicagoi'd say take a break and relax, after last weekend I am going to be a vegetable11:57
=== dfarning off to enjoy my friday night
=== asac off till tomorrow

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