[12:25] shoud be the forth link down on the lp page [12:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/~mozilla-bugs/+packagebugs [12:26] dfarning: hmmm i don't come to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox hierarchy from there [12:27] i mean ... those are just quicksearches for bugs ... but no links to the main page of the package [12:28] i have not found out how to link directly yet [12:28] we could list each package manually on the lp [12:28] yeah ... but on our home page it should be pretty easy :) [12:29] i'll take that hint;) [12:29] on my todo [12:29] ty [12:30] but maybe it should be something that is automatically shown by lp ? [12:31] we have already been hammering the lp team with enough requests for this week;) [12:31] i still don't get it why we need a subteam mozilla-bugs [12:31] whats the difference other than more maintenance overhead :) [12:32] can you setup a list on what requests we have submitted and that are pending? [12:32] would help a lot not to submit duplicates :) [12:32] in order to make the -bugs mailing list work [12:33] ok ... and on what purpose do we assign bugs to that team? [12:33] to allow opt-out from bugmail? [12:33] we want -bugs subscribbed to bugs so bug spam is directed to the mailing list rather then mt members [12:33] hehe bug spam :) [12:33] right [12:34] also the bugbot in irc is a member of -bugs [12:34] hmmm ... am i subscribed already? [12:34] i can't remember :) [12:35] otherwise I won't be subscribed to bugs anymore :/ [12:35] I don't think so but... [12:35] asac: you are just on mt, not -bugs [12:35] k [12:35] I am still trying to unsubscribe mt from the bugs [12:36] where are links to our mailing lists? [12:36] that is what AlexLatchford was asking about this morning [12:36] checking [12:37] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam under contacts [12:38] dfarning: ... but no word about -bugs :) [12:38] i will add -bugs [12:38] :) [12:38] ok subscribed ... will i receive duplicates for now? [12:39] evolution is filtering out my dups;) [12:40] i think my mail setup does that too ... but depends on how mails are send [12:42] asac, what is our agreement with mozilla on patching fx? [12:43] afk people. let me know if you need anything [12:43] btw, i edited wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion [12:43] should clear up some issues people were telling me about [01:00] dfarning: we currently ship it with original branding [01:00] we submit patches for approval [01:01] they review with high priority ... at least i hope so :) [01:02] Admiral_Chicago: maybe that page should be split in pieces? [01:02] asac: how can I make it better? i mean what pieces specifically [01:05] Admiral_Chicago: maybe move specific install approaches to separate page each and just outline existing methods on main page? [01:05] hmm, I saw that, maybe I'll print it out and hack on paper [01:08] i'm going to return to my homework though [01:08] i do work offline sometimes. [01:10] good for your eyes :) [01:10] blah, my eyes are terrible. I'm at my desk but reading at a book and not looking at the screen [01:13] asac: http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/Thunderbird-Edgy/ its done uploading [01:14] uploading feistys atm [01:14] btw, latest fx isn't in feisty yet [01:14] not yet built [01:14] :) [01:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1 [01:15] latest fx? you mean 2.0.0.1? [01:15] oh been there done that [01:15] :) [01:16] should be built for i386 too soon i guess [01:16] asac: should i mark the bug as fix released after done uploading feistys patched tb? [01:16] asac: didnt i build that yesterday? [01:16] gnomefreak: ... we don't fix it :) [01:16] you can mark it as fix committed [01:17] ah ok who fixes it than? [01:17] we don't upload to feisty with new patches [01:17] oh [01:17] these are packages for our convenience atm [01:18] until thinks with mozilla have worked out [01:18] ah ok [01:18] aka patch approval process is running [01:18] s/think/thing/ [01:18] you have to ok all patches with mozilla? [01:20] i don't think that this will be an issue in the long run [01:21] ok but edgys can still be uploaded (after checking with mozilla)? [01:21] will work out quite well once we have reviewed our current patches [01:21] what do you mean? [01:21] on security updates, we update edgy, of course [01:22] asac: the replytolist patch for edgy's tb [01:22] no ... new features are for new relesaes [01:22] oh ok [01:23] but that has nothing to do with mozilla, but rather sane release policy [01:23] you just cannot update features if you want to maintain huge software collection in a stable fashion [01:24] oh ok [01:24] asac: i know i figured atleast backport this to edgy (many people are looking for this fix) [01:24] including AlexLatchford [01:25] yeah we can release it from an mozillateam repository [01:26] oh your repo is gonna be the latest/greatest patches features we cant release to archive.u.c [01:27] gnomefreak: we can do that ...but maybe we have to build firefox with unoffical branding for that repository. mozilla.org does the same for nightlies, so it is fair imo. [01:28] agreed [01:28] can we chose one that doesn't suck (blue globe is terrible) [01:28] gnomefreak: actually i don't want to setup a repo to upload arbitrary improvements to. But if there is demand it can be included. [01:29] i'd like a testing repository so we can mark bugs as fix release [01:29] Admiral_Chicago: the one we have is fine :) i have ablack ff logo but shhhh [01:29] black? i use the original Fk logo [01:29] Fx* [01:30] Admiral_Chicago: release to a testing repository is fix committed for us i would say [01:31] released is only when uploaded to main [01:31] reasonable? [01:32] oh right, i thought commit was main, release was fixed in testing [01:32] release and rejected are final states (as far as I understood) ... commit is available for testing/preview [01:33] i'll check on Bugs wiki [01:33] k [01:35] if you have another patch handy to build i can run it over night [01:36] hey ... you could replace the included tarball in archives directory with original upstream tarball and see what happens :) [01:36] bear with my paste.. [01:36] # [01:36] nah, pastebin [01:37] Admiral_Chicago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1 [01:37] i386 is built [01:37] :) [01:37] thats a bit over my head i think [01:37] http://pastebin.ca/357976 [01:38] yep [01:38] 'that a fix was uploaded' ... refers to main [01:38] :) [01:38] oh hell i can do that [01:39] gnomefreak: you want to? [01:39] and rebuild it and hope it doesnt break it ;) [01:39] asac: sure [01:39] ok: [01:39] in changelog ... choose new upstream version [01:39] as this will be a new orig.tar.gz [01:39] what is the current version ? [01:40] of what tb? [01:40] j [01:40] y [01:41] 1.5.0.9-0ubuntu1+mt [01:41] you want this with tb or ff [01:41] tb [01:41] firefox is already migrated :) [01:42] ah ok [01:42] yes thats tb version [01:42] you can take [01:42] 1.5.0.9+1-0ubuntu0+mt for the version :) [01:42] what do i rename it to? [01:42] ah ok [01:43] no need to play with rules or control right? [01:43] not atm [01:43] ok [01:43] 1. adapt version (done) [01:43] 2. replace tarball inside archives/ dir [01:43] 3. tar the archives dir up [01:44] -> new orig.tar.gz ... look at how the directory layout is in current orig.tar.gz [01:44] then you just need to replace the proper filename of the original tar.bz2 you placed inside the archives dir [01:44] in debian/rules [01:45] that should at least allow you to build [01:45] ad 2. ... replace the tar.bz2 file in archives/ with the original upstream tar.bz2 from ftp.mozilla.org [01:46] ok ill give it a shot. and this is for tb 1.5newest not 2.0 right [01:46] yes [01:46] 1.5.0.9 [01:46] k [01:46] or was it 10 already? [01:46] hmm [01:46] latest available [01:46] :) [01:46] same as in archives/ directory [01:46] i would say [01:46] ok [01:47] maybe you get something done... might brake branding here and there ... but maybe it will just build and we can look on what is broken then :) [01:47] good luck ... have to go to bed soon :) [01:48] k ill give it a shot. the archive dir only has a tar in it [01:48] yes ... replace that [01:48] adapt filename of that in debian/rules [01:49] but remember to retar orig.tar.gz [01:49] with the new upstreamversion [01:49] 1.5.0.9+1 [01:49] in its name [01:49] so ... mozilla-thunderbird_1.5.0.9.orig.tar.gz i guess [01:49] so ... mozilla-thunderbird_1.5.0.9+1.orig.tar.gz i guess [01:49] of course [01:49] ok [01:50] here is feistys tb you wanted give it a while to finish uploading http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/Thunderbird-Feisty/ [01:50] ok will do tomorrow .. have bookmarked [01:51] cu ... thx :) === jhnjwng [n=wj1918@pool-70-21-130-84.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === jhnjwng confused with gnome theme and firefox theme in bug#32233, he need to go to sleep. === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [08:44] newest Fx has been put on the repos [08:44] installing it now [08:45] which repos? [08:45] feisty [08:45] oh ok [08:45] whats Feisty like> [08:46] stable? [08:46] 2.0.0.2 i think. should have a bug fix to one that I have [08:46] pretty stable, a lot more stable than Edgy testing was [08:46] hmm okay [08:46] I have four bugs but they are all reported [08:46] I am thinking about making the update at Herd4 or 5 [08:47] 2 related to X, one to desktop icons, one related to screen resolution. [08:47] really want to try out the new network Manager [08:47] hmm okay [08:47] oh and one related to Fx, but that was upstream [08:47] aha ok [08:47] i don't use GNOME so I'm not sure [08:47] there is some really cool stuff in Feisty === Admiral_Chicago makes a note to check with Marketing [08:48] the Herd 4 page should be done by now [08:49] anyways, don't you have class ever? [08:56] Admiral_Chicago, speaking of class. don't you sleep? [08:56] dfarning: reading. [08:56] I have a test tomorrow, have to read up on the Qur'an [08:57] enjoy, I am going back to bed. Just got up for a snack;) [08:57] dfarning: i wish I could go to bed. I have another 40 pages. [08:57] night [08:57] ouch good luck [08:58] it's not intense, just tedious. well see ya around [09:04] lol I go to class Freddy, but its normally when you are asleep [09:05] I have a few mornings and afternoons off a week though, only have 1 day where I have to go in for all lessons [09:05] ah well my classes are usually 16 UTC - 23 UTC [09:06] man I got lucky Alex, one class on Tuesdays and Thursday at 2 - 3.30 PM [09:06] slept all morning, almost missed lunch [09:07] have you seen this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd4 [09:07] i really like the migration stuff [12:19] hi [12:19] you had problems with the new build so far? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:01] morning all [02:06] morning ill be around (on phone with irs [02:08] phone with irs? sounds like a lot of time on hold [02:09] btw asac there is no 1.5.0.10 release. the latest is 1.5.0.9 [02:09] it is [02:10] yep [02:10] will be out soonish [02:10] k [02:11] gnomefreak: can you give me your url please? [02:11] once more [02:11] :( [02:12] http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/ [02:12] pick a file you want from ther [02:13] why cant a talk to a frigging person :( [02:15] dunno ... pulling [02:18] i foresee this being an all day afair :( [02:19] gnomefreak: oh [02:19] edgy-security [02:19] hmm [02:20] thing it should be edgy :) [02:20] but doesn't matter for now [02:20] asac: what? [02:20] what should be in edgy-security? [02:21] ah [02:21] in changelog [02:21] first line [02:21] you use edgy-security as target distribution [02:21] which should be edgy i guess [02:22] as this is not a security upload [02:22] ah oops :( can be changed [02:22] can keep it now [02:22] i won't upload the .changes file anyway ... so nobody can just reupload to official archive [02:23] so it doesn't matter if I don't get things wrong [02:23] ah [02:28] have a good day everyone! [02:32] you too === Admiral_Chicago tries to be positive on ~3 hrs of sleep [02:38] asac, where was the link to fx patches? I lost it [02:40] do we have patches ready for implmenting into either? === gnomefreak wonders if i can do the same thing with tb 2.0 that i was gonna do with 1.5.0.10 [02:47] that way at the very least i have .debs for it [02:58] asac: is that even worth a try? this way i can build -snapshot .debs (including patches like the replytolist one) mainly for my own personal use since i love tb 2.0 [03:15] gnomefreak: I guess patches will not apply [03:15] oh :( [03:15] gnomefreak: but try :) [03:26] i will try if you need something more pressing let me know === asac gone for a while === gnomefreak too [04:20] asac: it looks like only patch 91_fontsfix_359763 will stick. it failed on everyother patch including the one i wanted in there. :( oh well worth a shot [04:23] looking in the tb archive to see if it was added or not === gnomefreak testing the tb builds i did yesterday [05:05] it doesnt look like it was included in the tb build. (the replytolist patch) atleast for feistys build [05:41] ok oops forgot to install the .xpi ;) [05:43] i just uploaded the .xpi to my thunderbird feisty and edgy folders === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [05:59] asac: I had couple of other ideas for mozteam === gnomefreak has a few too but :X [05:59] like having a peter6 like posts in ubuntu forums for all the moz packages [06:00] peter6? [06:00] its a well known guy in mozzine forums [06:00] poningru: peter6? [06:00] hold on [06:01] http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=23 [06:01] take a look at the posts created by peter6 [06:01] we can provide a .deb for testers [06:01] or a repo [06:01] poningru: ah ... ok you want automated rc builds somewhere [06:01] hmm [06:01] yeah [06:02] I just dont have the proc power for such a project [06:02] what packages do you want us to put in a forum? me confused [06:02] gnomefreak: like latest builds of firefox [06:02] firefox gp [06:02] and mf [06:02] gnomefreak: he wants that we upload weekly builds to my people.ubuntu.com repo for instance [06:03] right [06:03] are we doing weekly builds? [06:03] not yet [06:03] :) [06:03] yeah I didnt know that either [06:03] but doing that for all moz packages [06:03] we just have tbird and ff for now [06:04] :( [06:04] the main problem i see is that I don't have all archs here [06:04] what are we missing? [06:04] asac: i have 386 for all your needs [06:04] lol [06:04] edgy+fesity [06:04] gnomefreak: I dont think he is missing that ;) [06:04] poningru: he has 64 [06:04] yeah ... but as soon as you (gnomefreak) contribute, I would need to setup a real upload queue with gpg check and all [06:04] oh... [06:05] which of course needs some time to setup :) [06:05] asac: or you know provide you with a account on the ssh capable box [06:05] asac: well i am fairly comfortable with contributing when you are ready :) [06:05] poningru: can you be here on monday? [06:05] 2000 UTC? [06:05] yes sir [06:06] poningru: 3pm for you :) [06:06] we have a meeting then ... maybe you can put this on the agenda [06:06] uh... wait what? [06:06] crap [06:06] no I cant [06:06] i will think about how much work it would be for me to set things up [06:06] oh wait yes I can [06:06] :) === poningru is an idiot [06:06] I will be like 5 mins late [06:06] but is cool [06:06] my class gets out then [06:07] add it to agenda and we will wait for you on that agenda point [06:07] awesome [06:07] great ... can't promiss that we will get started with weekly builds in the next 2 weeks ... but at some point we should definitly have some [06:07] awesome [06:08] also I wanna decrease the release time of firefox security point releases [06:08] asac: are the patches made per version of package? like the replytolist.dpatch is only for tb versions 1.5*? [06:08] mostly yes ... some might still apply cleanly on 2.0 branch ... but some might not [06:09] poningru: seeing as we didnt have a maintainer until a week or 2 ago poningru it should get closer together [06:09] 2-3 maybe [06:09] poningru: i have to work with pitti on improving responsiveness with security builds [06:10] asac: let me know what I can do to help [06:11] poningru: what is your feature-set? [06:11] what do you mean? [06:11] my featureset? [06:11] yeah :) ... what can you do and what not :) ... what do you want to learn, what not :) [06:11] oh hehe [06:12] i guess i can build the snapshots without the patches :( [06:13] um... not much really, I am not really that good of a coder [06:13] but I can do patching, testing etc. [06:14] poningru: patching? as in repackage with the patch added? [06:14] I dont know the moz codebase as much as I would like to [06:14] gnomefreak: :p [06:14] yeah I know... trivial [06:14] not really [06:14] poningru: .... so you can do basic packaging work? [06:14] poningru: [06:14] yeah learning that right now [06:14] would love to [06:14] hint that all goes towards the decreased point releases [06:15] poningru: thats fine ... i think there are plenty of things to do :) ... but most importantly we need more people that lurk on bug mail and care for those that lack information :) [06:18] its best to start working on need info issues ... in that way one gets a good overview on what bugs exist and what symptoms they have [06:18] later one can help out in screening newly posted bugs and working to ensure that a bug getse properly processed upstream === gnomefreak will be doing bug day either sat. or sun. [06:27] is it safe to remove all ubuntu patches and build it? [06:28] no :) === gnomefreak read a few patches and didnt see anything to easily change :( [06:28] it might be safe to drop all patches that do not effect a Makefile.in or configure.in [06:28] makefile patch wasnt allowed [06:29] but that is quite a shot in the dark :) [06:29] makefile? [06:29] what? [06:29] what happened to mozconfig? [06:29] does not exist :) [06:29] waah [06:29] hold on let me see if i still have the errros. [06:29] i plan to consolidate packages post feisty [06:29] then I will use mozconfig [06:29] poningru: all ubuntu packages need a make file or they wont be allowed in ubuntu [06:29] 0.0 [06:29] for now configure switches are carefully selected :) [06:29] ok did not know that [06:29] eek === poningru is scared now [06:30] poningru: what is the source of scaryness? === poningru shrugs [06:30] :) [06:30] has never tried building any moz packages without mozconfig [06:30] poningru: ... its pretty much the same [06:31] in debian/rules [06:31] 50_arch_mips_Makefile_fix not applied to ./ . was not gonna be applied and killed the build [06:31] ah [06:31] configure is invoked with all the options [06:31] that make -f client.mk would use [06:31] gnomefreak: you can drop all mips/arm/m68k patches [06:31] those are for architectures we don't have in ubuntu [06:31] ah gotcha [06:32] http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/359237 were all the ones i had to remove [06:32] the only one that would build was a font patch [06:32] why? [06:32] 91_fontsfix_359763 [06:33] all failed? [06:33] asac: didnt ask it :( [06:33] the output in pastbin is not a fail [06:33] yes [06:33] i can paste the failures if you like [06:33] no ... if you say they failed [06:33] then you are right [06:33] applying patch 10_pangoxft_linkage to ./ ... failed. [06:34] gnomefreak: what did you try? which upstreawm version? [06:34] 2.0b2 [06:34] just the font patch applied? [06:34] but it would fail 1 or 2 than i would remove them run it again failed another few and did that until all patches were gone [06:35] hmm [06:35] did you edit 00list [06:35]