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[01:14] <maxamillion> ?
[01:15] <nalioth>  #ubuntu
[01:15] <maxamillion> ah yes, the zoo
[01:15] <LjL> ouch
[01:15] <LjL> i knew i shouldn't have gone to smoke just after i'd been highlighted by a kline
[01:15] <maxamillion> its always so crazy in there ...
[01:15] <maxamillion> LjL: lol
[01:20] <effie_jayx> lol @the zoo
[01:33] <Seveas> nalioth, prod
[01:34] <nalioth> Seveas: poke
[01:34] <Seveas> nalioth, can you please give mruiz level 10 access in #ubuntu-cl
[01:34] <nalioth> Seveas: added
[01:35] <Seveas> gracias
[01:35] <LjL> Hobbsee, can your router still be crashed by the exploit?
[01:36] <Hobbsee> LjL: the router doesnt crash - it just boots me off freenode.
[01:36] <Hobbsee> LjL: i'm running the same router, iirc, yes
[01:37] <LjL> Hobbsee: ok (well, even that wasn't entirely clear to me, whether it was a full disconnect, or just IRC) - could you connect a clone to 6667? i wanted to do a couple of experiments. there are some flavors of the exploit that seem to work on some people and not on others
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Hobbsee
[01:37] <Hobbsee> ah, yeah, should do
[01:47] <PriceChild> Hobbsee, ^^^
[01:47] <LjL> an accident :)
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> one less router for LjL to test on ;)
[01:50] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: yeah, i know
[01:50] <Hobbsee> i'ts unbanned
[01:50] <PriceChild> For now... ;)
[02:32] <nixternal> hrmm, ubotu seems to have left #ubuntu-chicago, any ideas?
[02:33] <nalioth> ubotu is stressed
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is stressed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <nalioth> !botsnack
[02:33] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:33] <nixternal> heh
[02:33] <nalioth> the software can't scale with all the channels and such, nixternal
[02:34] <nixternal> lovely
[02:34] <nalioth> sevea s has been having trouble with the bots overloading lately
[02:34] <nalioth> we can see about putting ubotwo in there
[02:35] <nixternal> as long as he will provide me info so I don't have to spam the main channels for it
[02:36] <nalioth> nixternal: is ubotwo present?
[02:36] <nixternal> he is now :) thanks nalioth
[02:59] <Mez> you should have more than one bot
[02:59] <Mez> like CIA-XX
[03:01] <nalioth> bots sighted
[03:01] <Hobbsee> run multiple bots off one config file...
[03:01] <Hobbsee> oh wait, too
[03:01] <Hobbsee> *two
[03:02] <Hobbsee> nalioth: if you know they're bots out to hurt hte network, why not just kline them now before they attack?
[03:02] <nalioth> Hobbsee: we just klined 400+
[03:03] <Hobbsee> nalioth: nice :)
[03:03] <nalioth> some may break through
[03:03] <Hobbsee> that's impressive
[03:03] <Hobbsee> nalioth: how do you know they're coming?
[03:03] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato!
[03:04] <nalioth> Hobbsee: not all the staff is as dumb as me (network and scripting wise)
[03:04] <Hobbsee> nalioth: well, if you're being considered as dumb, then i hate to think what the rest of us are!
[03:04] <nalioth> the rest of the staff makes me look kinda dim
[03:05] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee!!
[03:06] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:07] <ubotu> In ubotu, bimberi said: otherhelp is <reply> If no-one here can help you you can try the ubuntu-users mailing list - https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users or the forums - http://ubuntuforums.org
[03:07] <Hobbsee> !otherhelp is <reply> If no-one here can help you you can try the ubuntu-users mailing list - https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users or the forums - http://ubuntuforums.org
[03:07] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee
[03:08] <bimberi> thanks Hobbsee
[03:08] <Hobbsee> bimberi: :)
[03:08] <Hobbsee> bimberi: yes, would have thought you were already known
[03:08] <mneptok> !dianaross is <reply>touch \me in the moooooooooooooooooorniiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!
[03:08] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, mneptok said: !dianaross is <reply>touch \me in the moooooooooooooooooorniiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!
[03:09] <mneptok> bah.
[03:09] <bimberi> @now montreal
[03:09] <Mez> @addeditor mneptok
[03:09] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Montreal: February 15 2007, 21:09:47 - Next meeting: Xubuntu in 1 day
[03:09] <Mez> @editors
[03:10] <Hobbsee> nalioth: [13:07]  --> Thrallie has joined this channel (n=thrall@ip68-8-190-25.sd.sd.cox.net). if you didnt see it, is a spammer
[03:10] <Jucato> !editors
[03:10] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[03:10] <Hobbsee> @editors
[03:10] <Jucato> hm...
[03:10] <nalioth> Hobbsee: i'm on it
[03:10] <Hobbsee> cool :)
[03:12] <bimberi> i guess commands like 'editors' and 'addeditor' only work in /query
[03:13] <Mez> %editors
[03:13] <ubotu> Seveas, gnomefreak, apokryphos, thoreauputic, Hobbsee, bimberi, nalioth, Madpilot, LjL, Riddell, imbrandon, uniq, spec, LaserJock, mez, Jucato, trappist, Hawkwind, abattoir, zorglu_, tonyyarusso, elkbuntu, ompaul, PriceChild
[03:13] <Mez> %addeditor mneptok
[03:13] <Jucato> ah there :P
[03:13] <ubotu> OK
[03:13] <Mez> %editors
[03:13] <ubotu> Seveas, gnomefreak, apokryphos, thoreauputic, Hobbsee, bimberi, nalioth, Madpilot, LjL, Riddell, imbrandon, uniq, spec, LaserJock, mez, Jucato, trappist, Hawkwind, abattoir, zorglu_, tonyyarusso, elkbuntu, ompaul, PriceChild, mneptok
[03:13] <Mez> now, behave mneptok
[03:13] <bimberi> ah :)
[03:13] <Hobbsee> @lart 28 Mez
[03:13] <Hobbsee> bimberi: i wish they did
[03:14] <Mez> Hobbsee, why are you pointy?
[03:14] <Jucato> lol
[03:14] <Hobbsee> Mez: i'm *not* pointy.
[03:14] <nalioth> tsmithe: you still about?
[03:14] <tsmithe> yes
[03:14] <Mez> * Ubugtu thwacks Mez with a BIG POINTY HOBBS OF DOOM
[03:14] <Jucato>  Ubugtu thwacks Mez with a BIG POINTY HOBBS?? OF DOOM <--- Ubugtu says you are
[03:15] <tsmithe> nalioth, i think i pissed the arch people off cos i had a question about arch, joined the channel, asked, they called me a noob, i showed my l337 skills and that put them off me and ubuntu
[03:15] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ubuntu is wrong
[03:15] <tsmithe> although i tried to get ubuntu out of the conversation as much as possible
[03:15] <Jucato> :P
[03:15] <Mez>  tsmithe what did you do?
[03:15] <tsmithe> looks like they weren't listening
[03:15] <tsmithe> Mez, just asked a question about hal
[03:15] <nalioth> tsmithe: care to be an ubuntu ambassador there?  (try not to get eaten)
[03:15] <tsmithe> nalioth, urghm ok
[03:15] <Mez> Hobbsee, whats wrong with ubuntu? why is ubuntu wrong?
[03:16] <bimberi> ooh, pedantry
[03:16] <bimberi> :)
[03:16] <Jucato> Mez: I think pointy Hobbsee meant ubugtu :D
[03:16] <Hobbsee> Mez: er, ubugtu :P
[03:16] <Jucato> heh Mez was the first to notice it. I can't take the credit
[03:17] <Hobbsee> awww
[03:17] <Jucato> lol
[03:17] <nalioth> you boys better run, she was going for four at once
[03:17] <Mez> nalioth, can we get a kline, theres a random mad woman going round abusing her ops
[03:18] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:18] <Jucato> random man pointy woman
[03:18] <Mez> @lart 28 Hobbsee
[03:18] <Jucato> Hobbsee: better tell that to Ubugtu :D
[03:18] <tsmithe> Hobbsee, Ubugtu diagrees
[03:18] <Jucato> roflmao
[03:18] <Hobbsee> UBUGTU IS WRONG!
[03:19] <tsmithe> mrgh
[03:19] <Jucato> when you wake up in the morning and this is one of the first things you do... you're gonna laugh like crazy too
[03:19] <Hobbsee> [13:18]  <tsmithe> uhoh
[03:19] <Hobbsee> [13:18]  *** You set a ban on bugtu!*@*.
[03:19] <Hobbsee> [13:18]  <tsmithe> phew
[03:19] <Hobbsee> [13:18]  <xtknight> bah everyone should just convert to digital or hd
[03:19] <Hobbsee> [13:18]  *** You set a ban on *!*@ubuntu/member/tsmithe.
[03:19] <Hobbsee> [13:18]  *** You have kicked tsmithe from the channel (you thought you were in luck...).
[03:19] <Mez> @lart change 28 thwacks Hobbsee with a BIG POINTY HOBBS OF DOOM  
[03:19] <tsmithe> !paste > Hobbsee
[03:19] <tsmithe> that was probably a bad idea...
[03:20] <Mez> aw darn
[03:20] <tsmithe> :(can't decide which smiley to make)
[03:20] <Hobbsee> @delete lart 28
[03:20] <Mez> I don have access to edit larts
[03:20] <Hobbsee> @lart delete 28
[03:20] <tsmithe> haha
[03:20] <Hobbsee> me neither, i dotn think
[03:20] <Hobbsee> @lart remove 28
[03:20] <tsmithe> @join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:20] <Hobbsee> @whoami
[03:20] <Ubugtu> I don't recognize you.
[03:20] <tsmithe> oops
[03:20] <Mez> @lart 28 Hobbsee
[03:20] <Mez> @lart change 28 thwacks $who with a HUGE POINTY HOBBS OF DOOM
[03:21] <Mez> ah
[03:21] <tsmithe> nalioth, i think i have to leave #archlinux
[03:21] <Hobbsee> er, why doesnt it want to identify me?
[03:21] <nalioth> tsmithe: are they munching at your heels?
[03:21] <Mez> @lart change 28 /HOBBSEE/HOBBSEE/
[03:21] <Mez> @lart change 28 s/HOBBSEE/HOBBSEE/
[03:21] <Mez>  You don't have the #,op capability.
[03:21] <Mez> @(
 hahaha, my edit is still on this article, http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu
 Thrallie: The logo at the top left ;) <n0yd> Thrallie: no, www.jewbuntu.com
 Faust-C, Well that's a stupidity thing.
 I just put a link of that picture in #kubuntu
 *buntu should die.,
[03:22] <tsmithe> etc etc
[03:22] <tsmithe> it goes on and on
[03:22] <tsmithe> :S
[03:22] <Mez> tsmithe, what channel?
[03:22] <tsmithe> guess...
[03:22] <tsmithe> #archlinux
[03:23] <tsmithe> oops
[03:23] <Jucato> Hobbsee: mailing list...
[03:23] <tsmithe> Mez, are you sure??
[03:23] <Mez> nalioth, not warned Thrallie about spam?
[03:23] <Mez> tsmithe, am i sure what
[03:23] <tsmithe> Mez, *sigh* we'll get clubbed to death
[03:23] <tsmithe> i stuck up for myself, so i'm ok, i think
[03:24] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yes, but it should recognise my hostname
[03:24] <Hobbsee> %whoami
[03:24] <ubotu> Hobbsee
[03:24] <Hobbsee> it's just Ubugtu that doesnt
[03:24] <tsmithe> %whoami
[03:24] <ubotu> I don't recognize you.
[03:24] <tsmithe> pah
[03:24] <tsmithe> @whoami
[03:24] <Ubugtu> I don't recognize you.
[03:24] <tsmithe> bah
[03:25] <tsmithe> @whoami
[03:25] <Ubugtu> tsmithe
[03:25] <tsmithe> wooo!
[03:25] <Hobbsee> hrm
[03:26] <Jucato> @whoami
[03:26] <Ubugtu> I don't recognize you.
[03:26] <Jucato> %whoami
[03:26] <ubotu> I don't recognize you.
[03:26] <Jucato> wth?
[03:26] <tsmithe> hehehe
[03:26] <tsmithe> mwa!
[03:27] <Jucato> ew...
[03:27] <tsmithe> :P
[03:27] <tsmithe> Ubugtu love me ;)
[03:27] <tsmithe> *loves
[03:27] <tsmithe> ...
[03:32] <tsmithe> don't touch Ubugtu
[03:37] <Hobbsee> yay :)
[03:37] <effie_jayx> is it bug day :D?
[03:37] <tsmithe> woo!
[03:42] <tsmithe> Mez, i think #archlinux has calmed down a bit now
[03:43] <Mez> tsmithe, I have a calming influence :D
[03:43] <tsmithe> obviously :P
[03:43] <Mez> tsmithe, hehe
[03:43] <tsmithe> @lart  Mez
[03:44] <tsmithe> Mez, Ubugtu disgrees
[03:44] <Mez> I talk rationally, and dont respond to insults except in a rational manner
[03:44] <tsmithe> nor I!
[03:44] <Mez> tsmithe, but do you have a qualification in hostage negotiation ?
[03:44] <tsmithe> i was very respectful even when being hurled insults at!
[03:44] <tsmithe> Mez, yes
[03:44] <Mez> tsmithe, brainbench.com?
[03:44] <tsmithe> sure, why not
[03:45] <Mez> tsmithe, thats where I got my qualification :P
[03:47] <tsmithe> cool
[03:47] <tsmithe> as i said, me too
[03:47] <tsmithe> _ who's askin'..? _
[05:01] <plex0r> hi
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> hello
[05:01] <plex0r> i was banned from ubuntu
[05:01] <plex0r> so i guess i come here
[05:01] <plex0r> :)
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> ah
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> a sec
[05:03] <plex0r> are you good with ubuntu
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> depends what aspect.
[05:04] <plex0r>  sudo apt-get install gaim
[05:04] <plex0r> Password:
[05:04] <plex0r> Reading package lists... Done
[05:04] <plex0r> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[05:04] <plex0r> have you ever seen thatA?
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> plex0r: Seems you were banned for language, on the third strike.  in most likelihood that will be 24 hours or so.
[05:05] <plex0r> oh well ill stay here for now then
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> nope, I havent.  apt went kaplooie.
[05:05] <plex0r> am i going to ahve to recompile the kernel
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> doubt it
[05:05] <plex0r> well can you ask someone in #ubuntu for me
[05:06] <plex0r> i dont know ive never seen that error before
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> You might be better off sending an e-mail to the ML, going to bed, and seeing what's there for you in the morning.
[05:06] <plex0r> cool
[05:09] <plex0r> i fixed it.
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> awesome
[05:09] <plex0r> sudo rm -f /var/cache/apt/*.bin
[05:11] <plex0r> 64 bit installer is very buggy
[05:11] <plex0r> heh
[05:11] <plex0r> froze on me 6 timers
[05:35] <cables> Is there any way to see if a factoid is an alias in ubotu?
[05:35] <cables> Like, which factoids point where?
[05:37] <Amaranth> !-nvidiabeta
[05:37] <ubotu> nvidiabeta is <alias> nvidia9 - added by Amaranth on 2006-10-17 23:26:17
[05:37] <Amaranth> !-nvidia9
[05:37] <ubotu> nvidia9 aliases: nvidiabeta - added by Amaranth on 2006-11-22 10:04:26
[05:37] <Amaranth> :)
[05:37] <cables> thank you
[05:54] <ubotu> In ubotu, cables said: alsa-oss is a software package that allows OSS-only applications to use ALSA for sound output. Universe must be enabled. To install: "sudo apt-get install alsa-oss". Use it by running applications requiring it like this: "aoss <appname".
[05:57] <ubotu> In ubotu, cables said: no, sound is <REPLY> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3. For applications th
[05:58] <cables> Sorry, my previous ubotu edit got cut off... the rest of it was "For applications that only support OSS, see !alsa-oss.
[06:15] <mneptok> prepare my battle ape!
[06:21] <Hobbsee> @lart 37 mneptok
[06:25] <nalioth> dcc exploiters are getting ready for nighty-night
[06:25] <nalioth> not much you can do about it, but ...
[06:33] <Amaranth> #ubuntuforums really needs some help
[06:34] <nalioth> Amaranth: what's up
[06:34] <Amaranth> nalioth: full of trolls
[06:35] <nalioth> of course
[06:35] <nalioth> but slowly they are leaving for greener pastures
 suck my !coc | Amaranth
[06:35] <Amaranth> choice sample
[06:36] <Amaranth> but they only want forums staff as ops
[06:36] <Amaranth> too bad one of the forums staff is involved
[06:48] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, sounds like a good test for the FC
[06:49] <Amaranth>  <darkmatter> seriously... mods n "regulars" get away with frakin murder
[06:49] <Amaranth> Good test for the FC and prove him wrong at the same time.
[06:54] <nalioth> FC ?
[06:55] <Jucato> Forums Council
[06:56] <nalioth> ah
[06:56] <nalioth> a council of their peers just means trolls are at the helm
[06:56] <elkbuntu> are you sure it's #ubuntu* and not #*ubuntu*?
[06:57] <nalioth> elkbuntu: unfortunately, i'm in #ubuntuforums watching it all
[06:57] <elkbuntu> nalioth, i was just asking for clarification away from their prying eyes
[06:59] <mneptok> RELEASE THE BATS!
[07:06] <Amaranth> elkbuntu: I've heard #ubuntu*
[07:06] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, i heard everything with ubuntu in it
[07:06] <Amaranth> Maybe.
[07:06] <elkbuntu> nalioth, which is it?
[07:06] <nalioth> elkbuntu: huh? #ubuntuforums is a troll pit
[07:07] <Amaranth> The funny thing is this whole long train wreck started with me calling !ops to stop a pending Novell/MS flamewar.
[07:07] <elkbuntu> nalioth, forget ubuntuforums for a sec, this is not the question
[07:07] <Amaranth> nalioth: Wasn't when I was an op there. ;)
[07:07] <elkbuntu> nalioth, question is: Does Seveas have control of #ubuntu* or #*ubuntu*?
[07:08] <nalioth> elkbuntu: anything #ubuntu-*
[07:08] <nalioth> and now #ubuntuforums, too
[07:09] <elkbuntu> but not easyubuntu or ubuntustudio?
[07:10] <nalioth> i control easyubuntu (it is not an official Ubuntu project)
[07:10] <Amaranth> probably studio
[07:11] <Amaranth> nalioth: people still work on easyubuntu?
[07:11] <nalioth> and whoever registered #ubuntustudio got it
[07:11] <nalioth> Amaranth: we do
[07:11] <Amaranth> i stopped once i realized it was going automatix
[07:11] <nalioth> no, we've not gone automatix
[07:16] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, easyubuntu is more like automatix done correctly ;)
[07:16] <Amaranth> elkbuntu: I don't trust it on my system.
[07:17] <elkbuntu> what other a-words can i think of? :
[07:17] <nalioth> Amaranth: easyubuntu or automatix? easyubuntu will not mess anything up
[07:17] <Amaranth> easyubuntu
[07:17] <Amaranth> And it's sad that I don't trust it, I designed it.
[07:18] <nalioth> anyhoo, i hear feisty is getting a built-in easyubuntu crap-o-matix type thing
[07:19] <Amaranth> sort of
[07:19] <Amaranth> mostly just more metapackages
[07:21] <elkbuntu> and easier access to 'trusted third party' stuff
[07:21] <Amaranth> universe?
[07:22] <Burgundavia> most of the work is the mulitmedia codec stuff
[07:22] <elkbuntu> im not sure exactly how it's going to work
[07:22] <Burgundavia> which is a library from gstreamer with some hooks into the package manager
[07:22] <Burgundavia> the java stuff is already pretty easy
[07:22] <nalioth> java is in the repos
[07:23] <Burgundavia> yes, and easy to install via g-a-i
[07:23] <elkbuntu> nalioth, is n4cht a known troll at all? he's being vaguely trollish now
[07:37] <kgoetz> do any of the bots do !seen ?
[07:37] <nalioth> kgoetz: try it
[07:38] <kgoetz> !seen fred
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen fred - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <kgoetz> suppose thats a no :/
[07:38] <elkbuntu> kgoetz, use seenserv or /ns info <nick>
[07:39] <kgoetz> elkbuntu: thanks
[07:55] <Amaranth> --- [Fred]  idle 96:37:28, signon: Sat Jan 13 01:56:59
[07:55] <Amaranth> wow
[10:22] <mneptok> arm the war-kitty!
[10:24] <elkbuntu> mneptok, hardly, just send in critical mass kitty
[10:26] <GazzaK> meow
[10:29] <Madpilot> Are people being catty?
[10:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> wow. rubbed him up the wrong way
[10:32] <elkbuntu> look kitty, scratching post!
[10:32] <GazzaK> eeek
[10:32] <Madpilot> kinky
[10:32] <GazzaK> anyways, morning all
[10:33] <Madpilot> attempt serious? In the same channel as mneptok? Why bother?
[10:37] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, some people thrive on challenges, Madpilot
[10:37] <elkbuntu> err
[10:38] <elkbuntu> sorry for the double nick
[10:38] <Madpilot> I'll survive.
[10:38] <GazzaK> elkbuntu, I'm sure he won't mind elkbuntu
[10:38] <elkbuntu> GazzaK, aww thanks for the support, GazzaK
[10:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> LongPointyStick, wont notice whats going on, will you LongPointyStick ?
[10:41] <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, of course she wont, Kamping_Kaiser
[10:42] <Madpilot> @lart 37 the next person who uses double nicks
[10:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, thats all good then. btw, elkbuntu , the lart37's a bit old now isnt it?
[10:43] <elkbuntu> Kamping_Kaiser, you havent met the guy, you have no idea how amusing it is to me and for instance, sev
[10:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, true,  i dont
[10:55] <Seveas> elkbuntu, mneptok is cute, don't scare Kamping_Kaiser :)
[10:56] <GazzaK> i'd not say no anyway
[11:01] <Seveas> yay
[11:01] <Seveas> fixed
[11:02] <Seveas> xchat was giving m stupid colos in feisty
[11:02] <Seveas> and my keyboard doesn't do what I tell it to :)
[11:18] <GazzaK> you use fingers on a keyboard Seveas stop talking to it
[11:19] <Seveas> GazzaK, ahhhhhh!
[11:19] <GazzaK> thats the best bit of advice I have given out today...
[11:19] <GazzaK> told a user (at my workplace) to install ubuntu as they had a virus problem
[11:20] <GazzaK> and told the office manager that his problem was a "PEBKAC" problem
[11:22] <elkbuntu> i found out today that one of the other volunteers at the place i do my mutual oblication for welfare, is a bit of a geek and was considering getting a vista machine... so we ended up having a good long talk after hours about what linux is etc. he'd tried suse before because someone installed it for him, but had not figured how to install anything so gave up on it
[11:22] <elkbuntu> so, im taking him an ubuntu cd next week tehehe
[11:26] <Jucato> %login
[11:26] <Jucato> hm...
[11:28] <elkbuntu> we resisted xp at home until '04
[11:29] <GazzaK> I know a place still running win 3.11
[11:29] <elkbuntu> and considering theres only 'vista capable' machines in the house, not 'vista ready' machines, it wont happen for quite some time
[11:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> GazzaK, yay
[11:30] <elkbuntu> quite a few of small-medium businesses still run 3.11
[11:30] <elkbuntu> in my area, anyway
[11:31] <GazzaK> it runs nice, they have had to replace a few machines, so buy second hand machines most people would throw away, since they are too slow for xp, and they run so fast
[11:33] <elkbuntu> yeah... you can easily get a p1 for around $25-$30
[11:34] <elkbuntu> i got my current toy box, a p2 350mhz with 160mb ram (now upgraded to 256) for $85
[11:43] <GazzaK> I can get older machines for nothing :-)
[11:44] <GazzaK> the last free machine was a P4 machine, with 256Mb ram
[11:45] <GazzaK> a what?
[11:45] <GazzaK> alpha???
[11:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> ... you better be pulling my leg
[11:46] <GazzaK> erm, nope
[11:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes, an alpha. <use your search engine of choise> +digital +alpha +600au
[11:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> 2nd hit
[11:48] <GazzaK> ahhh
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> my firmware has usb disabled for some reason, but thats cool with me
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> proliants are indistructable... and i'v tried
[11:49] <GazzaK> me too
[11:50] <GazzaK> even with water
[11:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> that i havent tried
[11:50] <GazzaK> iron filings does work
[11:51] <GazzaK> and once dusted off, the engineer never knows :p
[11:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol :P
[11:52] <GazzaK> I had a machine which had a weird problem, so I iron filing'd it, and then when the engineer came, he had to change most of it for new, which was a free upgrade too, as they did not have the parts for this old model
[11:52] <GazzaK> see, hardware warranty can pay
[11:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. i dont think i'v made a warenty claim other then my mobo
[11:55] <GazzaK> I have a AIT tape library which has just been swapped out for a brand new one, again, just as it got near to the end of the warranty
[11:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> its nice to hear someone get in just beofre it ends, not just after (what i usually hear)
[11:57] <GazzaK> it's all in the planning you see, when I buy new kit, I make a little folder, with the purchase details etc and the spec and in big letters the warranty expiration, I normally try to get a replacement just before
[11:57] <GazzaK> that might be seen as being really naughty, but it works for me :p
[11:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> i wont tell your boss ... for a price :P
[11:57] <GazzaK> the art is in making it so they cannot "prove" it failed due to me breaking it on purpose
[11:58] <GazzaK> I think my boss thinks it is a very good "co-incidence"
[11:59] <GazzaK> and when you pay way too much due to having tied down "approved supplier" lists, then I fail to have sympathy for them
[12:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> :|
[12:05] <elkbuntu> that might be fine for you guys, but im nowhere that free machines are available ;)
[12:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> elkbuntu, true.... P3 good enough? :)
[12:07] <elkbuntu> heh, postage would kill
[12:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> pity. i dont think anyones going your way any time soon
[12:10] <elkbuntu> plus, if i set up another machine right now, my folks would kill me. this circuit is overloaded enough as it is, it's got the most-used stuff all on the one... which is silly. fridges/freezers on a separate fuse, but fridge, lounge, my bedroom and iirc folks room all on one circuit
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> eek. thats plain scary
[12:11] <elkbuntu> which is... 3 computers, tv, stereo, stove, microwave, dishwasher, 3+ rooms worth of lighting & misc small appliances.
[12:13] <elkbuntu> oooh, 2 tvs actually, and where 3 computers = 2 boxes, monitor, multifunction, and usually a laptop as well
[12:14] <elkbuntu> and s/but fridge, lounge/but kitchen, lounge/
[12:14] <elkbuntu> i think i need sleep
[12:14] <elkbuntu> you're brown-out prone though anyway
[12:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> its upstreams fault :(
[12:15] <elkbuntu> :(
[12:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[01:05] <Hobbsee> mneptok: oh?
[01:06] <Hobbsee> mneptok: you think you're better than me?  hmmm?
[01:06] <Hobbsee> :P
[01:06] <mneptok> "Surrender Your Heart" by Missing Persons. made cool because it's all Peter Max animation.
[01:06] <Hobbsee> ahh
[01:06] <mneptok> every day for the past 11 years ....
[02:07] <aalhamad> i cannot fix it ... plus i cannot join ubuntu?
[02:07] <aalhamad> plzz help
[02:07] <Hobbsee> !exploit | aalhamad
[02:07] <ubotu> aalhamad: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[02:07] <Hobbsee> aalhamad: did you change your port to 8001?
[02:07] <aalhamad> yes..
[02:08] <Hobbsee> cool
[02:08] <aalhamad> but stiill did not work
[02:08] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, test him?
[02:08] <Hobbsee> yes, of course it doesnt.  there's still the ban there.
[02:08] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: just did
[02:08] <aalhamad> ill try it again and let see..
[02:08] <Hobbsee> aalhamad: you should be fine to join now
[02:08] <elkbuntu> aalhamad, the ban was for your own protection. we wait to test you before letting you back in to stop bad things happening :)
[02:08] <aalhamad> ok
[02:08] <aalhamad> thanks...
[02:09] <Hobbsee> we seem to have more people than before, too
[02:09] <aalhamad> but why is that? i did not understans..
[02:09] <aalhamad> is it for protecting me ? or protecting yourself ..? i didn't get it
[02:09] <Hobbsee> aalhamad: because you got hit by the exploit, and exploits that kick you off the network arent good, right?
[02:09] <aalhamad> i thought there is something in my router..
[02:09] <Hobbsee> aalhamad: for protecting you
[02:10] <elkbuntu> aalhamad, protecting you from exploits against your NAT setup
[02:10] <elkbuntu> aalhamad, if you're not in a channel when the exploits get done, you wont get affected
[02:10] <Hobbsee> aalhamad: there is.  connecting to the non-standard port means that your router doesnt get affected
[02:10] <aalhamad> ooh.. ic..
[02:10] <aalhamad> well thats good...
[02:10] <aalhamad> new technology ha?
[02:10] <aalhamad> nice nice..
[02:10] <elkbuntu> we try to look after our people :)
[02:11] <aalhamad> so im fine now?
[02:11] <aalhamad> im clear ?
[02:11] <elkbuntu> you should be, yes :)
[02:11] <aalhamad> ok. :)
[02:11] <aalhamad> cool.
[02:11] <aalhamad> thanks
[02:13] <PriceChild> aww :)
[02:17] <Seeker`> isn't there a way of detecting who is doing it?
[02:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> echelon :)
[02:19] <PriceChild> Seeker`, Yeah and they get K-lined?
[02:26] <ikonia_> guys - what was all that about please ?
[02:27] <ikonia_> Seveas whats with the ban?
[02:27] <Seveas> ikonia_, this is not the first time you go berserk
[02:27] <Seveas> behave or begone
[02:28] <ikonia_> whats wrong with the behaviour - I didn't go beserk - I advised someone to use windows ?
[02:28] <elkbuntu> !coc | ikonia_
[02:28] <ubotu> ikonia_: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:28] <ikonia_> I'm aware of it
[02:28] <ikonia_> I /try/ to abide by it where possible
[02:28] <elkbuntu> ikonia_, that may be, but i am not convinced you know it
[02:28] <ikonia_> not at all,
[02:30] <ikonia_> if you can englighten me in which way I've broke it
[02:30] <elkbuntu> ikonia, some guidelines. If a user is docile, just ignore them. If user floods, alert ops rather than flaming.
[02:30] <ikonia_> I'm happt to accept critisism
[02:30] <ikonia_> I asked the user 3 times to stop flooding ?
[02:30] <ikonia_> I advised him to use windows as he didn't want to use any of the interfaces ?
[02:30] <ikonia_> in the process - I helped 2 other users fine - no problems
[02:31] <elkbuntu> ikonia_, you are not the law in #ubuntu, that is the job of the ops. trying to take it into your own hands isnt advisable
[02:31] <ikonia_> I wasn't trying to take the lawy into my own hands ?
[02:31] <ikonia_> I didn't threaten or warn him
[02:31] <ikonia_> I asked him to stop flooding the channelk
[02:31] <elkbuntu> ikonia_, you decided to ask the user 3 times, rather than seek assistance from someone who could actually rectify the situation
[02:31] <ikonia_> as I saw I'm all for ciritisism, and I know I'm to the point
[02:32] <ikonia_> elkbuntu fair enough, I'll simpley cry ops
[02:32] <ikonia_> s/saw/say
[02:33] <elkbuntu> telling a user to go back to windows because they are dumb isnt acceptable either
[02:33] <elkbuntu> you have the benefit of being able to use /ignore
[02:33] <elkbuntu> if they piss you off, use it :)
[02:33] <ikonia_> ahhhh I said he was too dump after being called a "prick" for advising him on the three options
[02:33] <ikonia_> ignore doesn't work as it breaks the flow of the channel up - but I know what your saying
[02:34] <elkbuntu> ikonia_, insulting, even if as a retaliation, is not CoC
[02:34] <ikonia_> no, and I accept that
[02:35] <elkbuntu> now, i hope this talk has helped for the future. unfortuantely i cannot do anything about your ban situation, that is up to the banning op to decide.
[02:35] <elkbuntu> however, it's likely just a 24hr ban, so have some time off and come back tomorrow, ok?
[02:35] <ikonia_> so - hang on just let me get this clear in my mind
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> night all
[02:36] <elkbuntu> night Kamping_Kaiser
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> (and only an hour late ;))
[02:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> *gone*
[02:36] <ikonia_> I spend most of my day helping with the support of the channel, and for making the comment "too dumb" to someone who's being rude /offensive / flooding the channel in admitly wrong retaliation for a personal insult, I get banned for 24 hours ?
[02:37] <elkbuntu> ikonia_, if we let you get away with it, we'd have to let everyone get away with it, and then that woul dbe a horrid mess :-/
[02:37] <ikonia_> I come in here and discuss it with you as an adult, yet the person who I made the comment too, is sat in channel getting all the help they want
[02:38] <ikonia_> I don't expect to be got away with it, as I said I'm happy to come and explain my reasons/attitude as an adult
[02:38] <elkbuntu> ikonia_, well, i would have dealt with him if i had not been talking in here
[02:38] <ikonia_> I take on board whats said to me and decide what to do with it
[02:38] <ikonia_> surly the person who banned me is still active ?
[02:39] <ikonia_> they don't just ban then walk away from the keyboard?
[02:39] <elkbuntu> he was probably on his lunch break, he'd be back at work now
[02:39] <ikonia_> I beleive it was sevas
[02:39] <ikonia_> seveas I think sorry
[02:39] <elkbuntu> yes, and i believe seveas screens in occasionally from work
[02:40] <ikonia_> while I accept what we have been talking about, I'm dissapointed that this is the approach
[02:40] <Seveas> I'm disappointed that you don't see why I banned you and cannot accept that you were wrong
[02:40] <ikonia_> not at all
[02:40] <ikonia_> I do
[02:40] <elkbuntu> ikonia_, we have to be firm, unfortunately. as with everything in life, the minority ruin it for the majority
[02:40] <elkbuntu> we have to be consistant
[02:41] <ikonia_> I have a slight difference of opinion on one issue, which I'd love to discuss with you as a request, but other than that I do accept it
[02:41] <ikonia_> elkbuntu I don't disagree with consistantcy
[02:41] <mneptok> ikonia_: name calling is over the line for the CoC, which you admitted. that means that in principle you agree with the ban. what sucks is you got called a "prick" which Seveas (and i) missed. but life is unfair. sometimes thing Suck(r). this may be one of those times, but it ends in 24 hours. and next time, just /join here and *first thing* make someone aware of other non-CoC conduct.
[02:42] <ikonia_> Seveas I totally accept that I shoujldn't have made the stupid comment to the user - so yes, I accept that
[02:42] <mneptok> (phew)
[02:42] <ikonia_> mneptok I totally understand what your saying, but it was more meant as a derogatory comment - rather than an insult (not that changes the conext)
[02:43] <mneptok> i really don't want to check 30 minutes of scrool in #ubuntu. but if it was 5 minutes worth? sho'.
[02:44] <ikonia_> mneptok not at all, I'm not asking you to check - I more meant you help a guy 3 times and each time the answer is "its too hard" "I can't use the interface" then the flooding for "help" starts again, I meant it as a throw away comment "too stupid to use" not "your too stupid"- not making excuses
[02:44] <ikonia_> just trying to explain, I'm not a bad/rude person by natur
[02:44] <mneptok> go hang in -offtopic or a LoCo for a day. it usually turns out that the longer someone presses a case in here, the worse things get for them. it's a troubling statistic. :)
[02:45] <ikonia_> as I can't discuss #ubuntu at the moment I'd certainly welcome a short discussion on some of the policy in #ubuntu with you guys ?
[02:45] <ikonia_> I'm not pushing anything, I'm happy to drop it
[02:45] <Seveas> then drop it
[02:45] <mneptok> i'm not blowing you off. just sayin' ...
[02:45] <elkbuntu> ikonia, #ubuntu-uk would be your loco judging by the hostmask. there's also the users mailing list to help on
[02:45] <Seveas> the policy in #ubuntu is made by the ops, not 1000+ users
[02:45] <ikonia_> Seveas sorry, I wasn't pushing it, I was only dissucssing
[02:46] <ikonia_> Seveas I'm not making policy, I'd just appriciate a discussion, perhaps even a little clarity on some things
[02:46] <Seveas> ikonia_, what's so hard about "drop it"?
[02:46] <mneptok> ok ... nom i *am* blowing you off. i need nicotine.
[02:46] <mneptok> *now
[02:46] <Mez> mneptok, kinky
[02:46] <Mez> mneptok, can i nick a ciggy cant be bothered to go to shops
[02:46] <elkbuntu> ikonia, you're not going to hear anything you havent heard already. meanwhile while we're talking here, we cant keep an eye on your troll, who hasnt made a peep since you got booted
[02:47] <mneptok> Mez: when i'm done sucking that cigarette ...
[02:47] <ikonia_> Seveas apologies, I wasn't discussing my own situation, have I offended you as you seem a tad blunt
[02:47] <Mez> ikonia_, tensions are a little, fraught around here at the moment
[02:48] <ikonia_> Mez really, because of me ?
[02:48] <Mez> no, in gerneral
[02:48] <Seveas> ikonia_, because of people like you who think they can improve everything :)
[02:48] <elkbuntu> ikonia, long story, would take a week to explain
[02:49] <ikonia_> Seveas really sorry I wasn't trying to improve anything, I only had a few questions which I'd never really knew the answer to just the rule -
[02:49] <elkbuntu> ikonia, basically the situation where we gave a mouse a crumb and he asked for a glass of milk
[02:49] <Seveas> mneptok, have a cigar - takes more sucking
[02:49] <ikonia_> elkbuntu I see
[02:49] <ikonia_> (basiclly)
[02:49] <Seveas> !guidelines | ikonia_
[02:49] <ubotu> ikonia_: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:49] <Mez> Seveas, The sucking jokes are too easy
[02:49] <Seveas> that should explain things
[02:49] <Mez> too too easy
[02:49] <ikonia_> Seveas that explains the rules, I was more looking for your views behind something
[02:49] <mneptok> ooo! i'm easy!
[02:50] <mneptok> ooo! me! ME!
[02:50] <Seveas> ikonia_, why?
[02:50] <ikonia_> if you see what I mean, a human take on something rather than a dry line
[02:50] <Mez> mneptok, you're making it even easier
[02:50] <ikonia_> Seveas just for an opinion really
[02:50] <ikonia_> Seveas you learn from other peoples points of view
[02:50] <Seveas> mneptok+sucking = a gazillion bad jokes
[02:50] <Mez> ikonia_, DROP IT
[02:50] <Mez> !stop
[02:50] <ubotu> NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.
[02:50] <elkbuntu> ikonia, seveas wrote the rules, so you've already seen his opinion.
[02:51] <ikonia_> sorry,
[02:51] <ikonia_> my phrasing is terrible, thats not what I meant
[02:51] <Seveas> elkbuntu, well, that was with input from quite a few people
[02:51] <elkbuntu> Seveas, of course
[02:51] <mneptok> ikonia_: softly, as i leave you, i offer this. "Just because you can't see the danger five feet in front of you doesn't mean *it can't see you*."
[02:51] <elkbuntu> twas the first wikipage i touched :)
[02:51] <Mez> TOO MANY JOKES
[02:51] <Mez> ARGH
[02:52] <ikonia_> mneptok an interesing hi-ku (spelling)
[05:14] <effie_jayx> hey
[07:50] <Mez> @btlogin
[08:31] <Seveas> @Mez
[08:31] <Mez> @Seveas
[08:31] <Mez> sup?
[08:31] <Seveas> nuttin
[08:32] <Seveas> working on some crappy python code :)
[08:32] <Mez> lol
[09:16] <Mez> thats kinda scary
[09:16] <Mez> I just went to login to my new drupal website, and guess what?
[09:16] <Mez> I typed in "M" and it suggested "Melissa Draper"
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> Whoa.
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> Websites got brains!  Run!
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> Mez: odd...having trouble sshing into torpor
[09:21] <Mez> what Username you using?
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> tonyyarusso
[09:22] <Mez> no, you need to go into control.sourceguru.net
[09:22] <Mez> and then setup in your domain an email account, and set that as administrator
[09:22] <Mez> it's confusing, I know
[09:22] <Mez> but it's how its done
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> I'll look
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> Mez: Oh, was also wondering - how do I do subdomains if I can't access the Apache config file?
[09:25] <Mez> control.sourceguru.net -> your site -> co-domains
[09:25] <Mez> put in a new subdomain in there
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> gotcha
[09:25] <Mez> and then use the forward tab to make it use a certain dir for it
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> Found the other thing, btw
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> Mez: The instructions say I should ask whether a database has already been made or if I should make it manually.
[09:40] <Mez> tonyyarusso, make one ...
[09:40] <Mez> site -> options
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> thought so
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> ah
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> This whole control panel thing throws me off significantly.
[09:43] <Mez> indeed
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> Now, here's an oddity...what's to stop someone from wgetting wp-config.php to see my DB password?
[09:47] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: it should be in a user-only folder
[09:47] <nalioth> i.e. "one apache can't read"
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: Right...  The "Just untar it" Wordpress is a different file layout than the .deb version, so I'm pondering how one does that.
[09:48] <nalioth> it should carry over the perms
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> nope
[09:49] <nalioth> well, make it so
[09:49] <ompaul> tar xvf whatever.tar
[09:49] <ompaul> and pray
[09:49] <ompaul> :)
[09:50] <ompaul> I think if you do a p it keeps permissions - checking man page
[09:50] <ompaul> yeap
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> aaah, 'k
[09:50] <ompaul> tar xvfp whatever.tar
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> done
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> wp-config-sample.php is still world readable.  whackos...
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> ah well, a go-r should do it, eh?
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> wait, no
[10:13] <ompaul> you want a chmod guide?
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Well, I understand chmod okay I think, I just don't know which things are trying to access what with what priviledges for this particular application.
[10:15] <ompaul> mostly it will run as nobody which is really your objective
[10:17] <ompaul> 76543210  rwx rw- r-x r-- -wx -w- --x ---
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> The problem is making the file readable by whatever is needing it (apache?  my user?  mysql?) but not by a visitor trying to access it (via apache?)
[10:19] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: just make it readably by user
[10:20] <nalioth> gaah
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> That's probably right, since the other PHP stuff trying to interact with it are owned by my user, so that should work.
[11:08] <tsmithe> Seveas, ping?
[11:08] <Seveas> tsmithe, ?
[11:08] <tsmithe> could you add me to the ubuntumembers team please? thanks ever so much :)
[11:18] <ompaul> I just removed acez for nickspam - after being asked more than once
[11:23] <tsmithe> i'm not in #?ubuntu. but watch out for Thrallie
[11:23] <tsmithe> "* Thrallie spams all the ubuntu channels
 now im going to be banned from ubuntu, kubuntu and maybe xubuntu"
[11:23] <tsmithe> it's just said
[11:23] <tsmithe> *sad
[11:23] <nalioth> thrallie has been klined
[11:24] <tsmithe> i see
[11:24] <tsmithe> good :)
[11:24] <Seveas> tsmithe, why would I add you? :)
[11:25] <tsmithe> Seveas, cos i got membership at the last meeting... i thought that was the process, that's all
[11:25] <Seveas> tsmithe, yeah it is
[11:25] <tsmithe> oh
[11:25] <tsmithe> hehe
[11:25] <tsmithe> you were being sarcastic!
[11:25] <tsmithe> :P
[11:26] <tsmithe> right?
[11:26] <nalioth> gnomefreak: you can pull the ban from #kubuntu
[11:26] <nalioth> gnomefreak: for thrallie
[11:27] <Seveas> Hello,
[11:27] <Seveas> The membership status of Toby Smithe (tsmithe) in the team Ubuntu
[11:27] <Seveas> Members (ubuntumembers) was changed by Dennis Kaarsemaker (dennis) from
[11:27] <Seveas> Proposed to Approved.
[11:27] <Seveas> Comment:
[11:27] <Seveas> Approved on feb 13 (sabdfl, mako, elmo)
[11:27] <Seveas> Regards,
[11:27] <Seveas> The Launchpad team
[11:27] <tsmithe> woo
[11:27] <tsmithe> thanks, Seveas :)
[11:32] <ompaul> Seveas, what did the bot just add?
[11:33] <ompaul> !nvidia
[11:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:33] <ompaul> jmm
[11:33] <Seveas> ompaul, ?
[11:34] <Seveas> what did the bot just add where?
 !nvidia > gordonjcp  no that would be custom - all there is is is what you have in the message from ubotu
 I'll remember that, ompaul
[11:34] <ompaul> !faaaa
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about faaaa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <Seveas> ouch
[11:35] <Seveas> not again!
[11:35] <Seveas> ah no
[11:35] <LjL> !search gordon
[11:35] <ubotu> Found: nvidia > gordonjcp  no that would be custom - all there
[11:35] <Seveas> > only works with a nickname
[11:35] <ompaul> !forget nvidia > gordonjcp no that would be custom - all there
[11:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about nvidia > gordonjcp no that would be custom - all there yet, ompaul
[11:35] <Seveas> if you have more than a nick, it'll just treat the > as part of the factoid
[11:35] <ompaul> ahhhhh
[11:35] <ompaul> ooch
[11:36] <LjL> !test > ljl    (ljl, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:36] <LjL> but this still works
[11:36] <LjL> suppose there has to be no "is"?
[11:36] <Seveas> yeah
[11:55] <ompaul> !serach gordon
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serach gordon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <ompaul> !search gordon
[11:55] <ubotu> Found: nvidia > gordonjcp  no that would be custom - all there
[11:55] <ompaul> hmm how to kill
[11:55] <ompaul> !forget  nvidia > gordonjcp  no that would be custom is
[11:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about  nvidia > gordonjcp  no that would be custom is yet, ompaul
[11:55] <ompaul> !forget  'nvidia > gordonjcp  no that would be custom'
[11:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about  'nvidia > gordonjcp  no that would be custom' yet, ompaul
[11:56] <ompaul> !forget  nvidia > gordonjcp  no that would be custom - all there
[11:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about  nvidia > gordonjcp  no that would be custom - all there yet, ompaul
[11:56] <ompaul> !forget nvidia > gordonjcp  no that would be custom - all there
[11:56] <ubotu> I'll forget that, ompaul
[11:58] <maxamillion> anyone else had a problem with a user by the name of communist_pope?
[11:59] <ompaul> no
[12:00] <nalioth> maxamillion: ban him
[12:00] <nalioth> maxamillion: where is he now?
[12:01] <maxamillion> no no, he stoped when asked ... i was just wondering
[12:03] <ompaul> it appears he joined -offtopic
[12:03] <nalioth> he's about to be klined
[12:03] <nalioth> he's been doing this crap for a couple of days
[12:03] <nalioth> visiting multiple channels and stirring crap up
[12:03] <maxamillion> oh ... didn't know that
[12:04] <mc44> surely he cant stir up the sedate world of -offtopic :)
[12:04] <maxamillion> yeah, i logged in and he said ... 16:56 < communist_pope> JOIN OUR COMMUNIST PARTY
[12:05] <nalioth> the nick is bad enough to stir stuff up
[12:05] <maxamillion> this much is true ..
[12:05] <GazzaK> can I feed the troll?
[12:06] <mc44> GazzaK: only if you want to lose your finders
[12:06] <mc44> *fingers
[12:06] <GazzaK> awww
[12:06] <GazzaK> but it's friday
[12:07] <maxamillion> lol
[12:07] <GazzaK> everyone knows it's troll friday
[12:16] <Madpilot> GazzaK, is that a religious holiday?
[12:17] <mc44> holy trolly day
[12:17] <GazzaK> yeah
[12:17] <GazzaK> thats the one
[12:22] <nalioth> wtf is going on in -offtopic.  i thought color screening was enabled