Ubugtu | New bug: #85473 in xserver-xorg-video-trident (main) "gnome windows corrupt upon downward movement" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85473 | 02:30 |
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tepsipakki | X1R7.2 is now officially released: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/PressReleases/X11R72Released | 07:34 |
tepsipakki | +1 | 07:36 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #84558 in xorg (main) "6.10 installer is unuseable at 800x600" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84558 | 09:25 |
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tepsipakki | binary-nvidia doesn't seem to like the new xserver, but I'll try rebuilding restricted-modules | 10:00 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #72040 in xresprobe (main) "Screen turns black - Installation on IBM M52" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72040 | 10:12 |
tepsipakki | ok, freeze is over? :) | 10:28 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #23253 in xserver-xorg-video-savage (main) "Using xv with media player get blue screen in Breezy" [Medium,Rejected] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23253 | 10:31 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #33617 in xserver-xorg-video-savage (main) "X.org does not initialize screen on IBM T20, T21, T22" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33617 | 10:35 |
cjwatson | yes | 10:37 |
cjwatson | I think seb128 has the sync lock at the moment | 10:37 |
cjwatson | what should go first? | 10:38 |
tepsipakki | x11proto* | 10:38 |
tepsipakki | wait a sec, I'll dig the proper list | 10:38 |
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seb128_ | hi | 10:39 |
tepsipakki | hi | 10:39 |
cjwatson | tepsipakki is digging up the list of the first round of syncs to happen for X.org 7.2 | 10:39 |
seb128 | ah, good | 10:39 |
tepsipakki | ok, lets start: x11proto-core x11proto-damage x11proto-input x11proto-randr xcb-proto | 10:40 |
tepsipakki | those from experimental | 10:40 |
tepsipakki | (actually all these syncs are from there) | 10:40 |
cjwatson | any ordering for the prototypes? I guess not | 10:40 |
tepsipakki | nope, they are just -dev packages | 10:40 |
cjwatson | we'll probably have to wait for a publisher run in between each stage | 10:41 |
tepsipakki | sure | 10:41 |
cjwatson | have you confirmed that there are no other prototype updates from upstream that haven't been packaged yet? | 10:42 |
seb128 | so "x11proto-core x11proto-damage x11proto-input x11proto-randr xcb-proto" are good to sync from experimental? do we need some extra testing first? | 10:43 |
tepsipakki | cjwatson: let me check for the last time :) | 10:43 |
tepsipakki | seb128: these are safe | 10:43 |
seb128 | ok | 10:44 |
tepsipakki | xcb-proto is new, btw | 10:44 |
tepsipakki | not in ubuntu yet | 10:44 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: what is your launchpad id? | 10:45 |
tepsipakki | seb128: tepsipakki ;) | 10:45 |
seb128 | easy ;-) | 10:46 |
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tepsipakki | cjwatson: nope, those are the ones | 10:51 |
cjwatson | ok | 10:52 |
tepsipakki | actually, x11proto-input for 7.2 is 1.3.2 | 10:52 |
tepsipakki | but experimental has 1.4.1 | 10:52 |
tepsipakki | feisty already has 1.3.2-4ubuntu1 | 10:53 |
seb128 | should we sync it then? | 10:53 |
tepsipakki | hmm, funny that the debian changelog claims it to be for 7.2 | 10:54 |
tepsipakki | I'll ask #debian-x | 10:55 |
seb128 | ok, thank you | 10:56 |
tepsipakki | 11:56 < jcristau> I think it is | 10:57 |
tepsipakki | :) | 10:57 |
tepsipakki | (safe to include) | 10:57 |
cjwatson | http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/proto/inputproto.git FWIW | 10:59 |
tepsipakki | debdiff 1.3.2-4u1 vs 1.4.1-1: http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/xorg72/pool/feisty/xorg-test/x11proto-input.debdiff.gz | 11:03 |
cjwatson | the Ubuntu change was irrelevant; it should have been build1 | 11:04 |
tepsipakki | yes but that gives an idea what upstream changed | 11:04 |
tepsipakki | of course it is seen from git as well.. | 11:04 |
cjwatson | looks ok | 11:06 |
cjwatson | mostly input hotplug | 11:06 |
tepsipakki | yep | 11:06 |
cjwatson | hopefully that metrolink stuff isn't used; if so I guess it can be fixed up later | 11:06 |
tepsipakki | " | 11:08 |
tepsipakki | Clean up some random detritus from the MetroLink merge." | 11:08 |
tepsipakki | so, fire away seb128 :) | 11:08 |
seb128 | I've just finished to clean sync bugs, doing xorg now | 11:11 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: so "x11proto-core x11proto-damage x11proto-input x11proto-randr xcb-proto" from experimental? | 11:11 |
tepsipakki | yes | 11:11 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: looks like we have an epoch on x11proto-damage and Debian not | 11:18 |
tepsipakki | oh.. | 11:19 |
tepsipakki | so it seems | 11:20 |
tepsipakki | bah | 11:20 |
tepsipakki | i'll do the merge | 11:20 |
seb128 | there is no merge to do | 11:20 |
seb128 | basically get the debian package and dch -i it and use a revision with the epoch | 11:21 |
tepsipakki | yes | 11:21 |
tepsipakki | I hate epochs | 11:22 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: ok syncs are ready | 11:22 |
seb128 | done | 11:23 |
tepsipakki | dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address | 11:23 |
tepsipakki | is this the recent change? | 11:24 |
seb128 | yep | 11:24 |
cjwatson | use build1 not ubuntu1 if it's just a fake-sync with new epoch | 11:24 |
tepsipakki | ok | 11:24 |
cjwatson | if you have a decent relationship with #debian-x, it might be possible to persuade them to bump epochs to accommodate us | 11:24 |
cjwatson | it wouldn't be the first time | 11:24 |
tepsipakki | yes, maybe later | 11:25 |
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tepsipakki | nexus6 /tmp 5015 % quota |grep WWW | 11:26 |
tepsipakki | WWW 98.48 of 100 MB used (98.48%) | 11:26 |
tepsipakki | hehe | 11:26 |
tepsipakki | I'll put that proto there, a sec | 11:26 |
tepsipakki | ok, http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/xorg72/new | 11:27 |
tepsipakki | http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/xorg72/new/x11proto-damage_1.1.0-1build1.dsc | 11:28 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: ok, thank you, looking at it | 11:29 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: uploaded | 11:31 |
tepsipakki | nice, thanks | 11:32 |
cjwatson | beat me to it :) | 11:33 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: thank *you* for working on that ;) | 11:33 |
cjwatson | seb128: please remember -v though | 11:33 |
tepsipakki | heh | 11:34 |
tepsipakki | ok, so the next batch will have to wait for a while? | 11:34 |
seb128 | cjwatson: ah right, will do for the next one | 11:34 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: "a while" is not that much | 11:35 |
cjwatson | publisher will run at 11:03 UTC | 11:35 |
tepsipakki | it's, like, half an hour! :) | 11:35 |
cjwatson | given that all this ought to build within an hour, you should be able to start with libraries after that | 11:35 |
cjwatson | for stuff that takes longer to build, it can be best to wait to confirm that the binaries will make it | 11:35 |
tepsipakki | on my laptop xorg-server took 30min, mesa 1h+, the others were much faster | 11:36 |
tepsipakki | and it is a Stinkpad T23 after all | 11:36 |
tepsipakki | damn.. damageproto for 7.2 is 1.0.3 not 1.1.0.. Julien Cristau is checking if it is a problem | 11:39 |
tepsipakki | shouldn't be: http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/proto/damageproto.git;a=commitdiff;h=df33455a4506362eff4d393dc7d58c9d73ddf870 | 11:41 |
cjwatson | doesn't look problematic | 11:41 |
tepsipakki | seems that xorg-server needs a patch, otherwise it'll advertise 1.1 when it supports only 1.0.. | 11:42 |
tepsipakki | http://www.nabble.com/xorg-server:-Changes-to-'upstream-unstable'-t3224973.html | 11:44 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #52054 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "locks up with some mouse clicks" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52054 | 11:45 |
tepsipakki | I'll add that to xorg-server.. jcristau will upload a new version this weekend which has this, so we can merge then again | 11:45 |
cjwatson | nod | 11:51 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: we will not likely get the xorg-server before the WE anyway, will we? | 11:52 |
tepsipakki | maybe not | 11:52 |
seb128 | I'm not sure than uploading a new xorg-server on friday evening is a good idea | 11:53 |
tepsipakki | hehe | 11:53 |
seb128 | probably better to wait monday | 11:53 |
tepsipakki | yes, let's do that | 11:53 |
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tepsipakki | it seems that support for damage-1.1 was added post-1.2.0, so that patch is needed | 11:56 |
tepsipakki | until 1.2.1 is released | 11:56 |
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tepsipakki | hi jcristau :) | 12:53 |
jcristau | hi tepsipakki | 12:53 |
jcristau | I figured it would be simpler to join here rather than read the logs on the web :) | 12:54 |
tepsipakki | hehe | 12:54 |
tepsipakki | I need to play some badminton, but when I come back I guess we can continue with the uploads | 12:55 |
seb128 | cjwatson: si that ok if I accept xcb-proto (source NEW)? | 01:18 |
seb128 | hum | 01:19 |
seb128 | the package has a debian/copyright.debian with no copyright nor license | 01:20 |
jcristau | yay | 01:21 |
seb128 | ah, they build the copyright from debian/rules | 01:21 |
tepsipakki | ok, I'm back | 02:23 |
seb128 | wb tepsipakki | 02:24 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: is xcb-proto required to continue? | 02:24 |
tepsipakki | it's needed for libx11 | 02:24 |
tepsipakki | but we can push others first | 02:24 |
seb128 | ok | 02:24 |
tepsipakki | so, those that can now be synced are: libfontenc xtrans libxau libxdmcp | 02:26 |
tepsipakki | libice and libsm need epochs, libxfont isn't yet in experimental | 02:28 |
tepsipakki | jcristau: feel like uploading libxfont to experimental?-) | 02:29 |
jcristau | heh | 02:29 |
tepsipakki | also, there are some packages which need an epoch on Ubuntu.. is it possible to bump it also in Debian so that we could avoid doing that every time? | 02:30 |
tepsipakki | I know it needs team approval | 02:30 |
jcristau | yeah, probably | 02:30 |
jcristau | please send a mail with the list of such packages to debian-x | 02:31 |
tepsipakki | ok, I'll do that now | 02:31 |
tepsipakki | hmm, I only know those that are new in 7.2 | 02:38 |
tepsipakki | bet there are others | 02:38 |
jcristau | libxfont on its way to ftp-master | 02:39 |
tepsipakki | whoa :) | 02:39 |
seb128 | rock | 02:39 |
tepsipakki | hard rock | 02:39 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: "libfontenc xtrans libxau libxdmcp" synced | 02:51 |
tepsipakki | seb128: thanks | 02:51 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: do you want to do libice and libsm updates or should I? | 02:51 |
tepsipakki | you can do them | 02:52 |
tepsipakki | if it's simler that way | 02:52 |
tepsipakki | +p | 02:52 |
seb128 | I don't care, it's as easy to dch -i than to wget your package for me | 02:53 |
seb128 | ok, let me do those then if that's fine with you | 02:53 |
seb128 | just the epoch to use? | 02:53 |
tepsipakki | yes | 02:54 |
seb128 | ok | 02:54 |
jcristau | libxfont 1:1.2.7-1 should be in incoming, fwiw | 02:55 |
tepsipakki | yeah | 02:55 |
kylem | morning folks. | 02:58 |
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tepsipakki | seb128: yes, I forgot to change the maintainer field in x11proto-damage | 03:20 |
seb128 | well, do we need to if we do no change to the package? | 03:21 |
tepsipakki | good question | 03:21 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: libice and libsm uploads done | 03:33 |
tepsipakki | great, then you can sync libxcb and grab libxfont from incoming.d.o | 03:35 |
tepsipakki | oh, libxcb is new | 03:35 |
cjwatson | seb128: (retroactively, yes :-)) | 03:40 |
seb128 | cjwatson: ok, thanks, pitti had a second look and we approved it since ;) | 03:41 |
cjwatson | I don't believe that *build*-style uploads need a Maintainer changes | 03:41 |
cjwatson | change | 03:41 |
seb128 | ok, good | 03:41 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: libxfont synced | 03:50 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: do we need libxcb to continue? | 03:51 |
tepsipakki | yes | 03:51 |
tepsipakki | libx11 is after that | 03:51 |
jcristau | you need libxcb for libx11, don't think you need it for anything else? | 03:51 |
jcristau | s/don't/I &/ | 03:52 |
tepsipakki | jcristau: see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/84731 | 03:52 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 84731 in xorg "Syncing and merging X.org 7.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 03:52 |
tepsipakki | there might be errors though | 03:52 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: what version of libxcb is required? if it's to NEW can you get an Ubuntu version we can upload? we will sync later when it's accepted for Debian | 03:53 |
jcristau | but there are no interface changes in libx11 | 03:53 |
jcristau | seb128: libxcb is already in experimental | 03:54 |
tepsipakki | jcristau: so we can continue with other libs? | 03:54 |
jcristau | tepsipakki: yes, imo | 03:54 |
tepsipakki | seb128: yes just sync it | 03:54 |
seb128 | I misred the " oh, libxcb is new" | 03:54 |
seb128 | jcristau, tepsipakki: thanks | 03:54 |
tepsipakki | heh | 03:55 |
tepsipakki | jcristau: feel like pushing more libs?-) | 04:01 |
jcristau | which ones? | 04:02 |
tepsipakki | on my list are such gems like libxdamage libxfixes libxfontcache libxkbfile libxmu libxpm libxrandr libxrender libxres libxss libxt libxv libxvmc :) | 04:04 |
tepsipakki | ..which are missing from experimental | 04:04 |
tepsipakki | seb128: in the meantime, you can sync libxevie and libxcomposite :) | 04:06 |
jcristau | do you really need all of them? :) | 04:08 |
tepsipakki | hehe :) | 04:09 |
tepsipakki | I'm not sure, actually | 04:09 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: libxcb libxevie libxcomposite synced | 04:09 |
seb128 | ok, I'm away for ~1 hour | 04:09 |
tepsipakki | ok, thanks | 04:09 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: I'll continue when I'm back if there is other things to sync | 04:09 |
tepsipakki | yeah | 04:09 |
jcristau | I'm probably not going to upload libxdamage 1.0.4 anyway, I'll go straight to 1.1 | 04:13 |
tepsipakki | oh, I've missed that | 04:15 |
jcristau | uploading libxfixes now | 04:17 |
jcristau | libxfontcache has practically not changed | 04:19 |
tepsipakki | ok | 04:19 |
jcristau | same for xkbfile | 04:20 |
jcristau | same for xmu | 04:20 |
jcristau | I'll upload libxpm | 04:21 |
tepsipakki | libxv&xvmc have some ChangeLog hook changes, nothing else | 04:22 |
jcristau | I'll leave them alone then | 04:24 |
tepsipakki | yes, feel free | 04:24 |
jcristau | the only significant change in libxrandr was already in debian/patches/ | 04:30 |
jcristau | libxrendr didn't change much either | 04:32 |
jcristau | same for xres | 04:32 |
jcristau | and xscrnsaver | 04:32 |
jcristau | I'll upload libxt | 04:33 |
tepsipakki | ok, thanks | 04:33 |
jcristau | done | 04:40 |
tepsipakki | I think some of those that were dropped can be synced from unstable, checking that now | 04:42 |
tepsipakki | libxmu would need an epoch anyway, made an mistake to put that on the list | 04:49 |
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tepsipakki | seb128: when you get back, you can sync libxcursor and grab libxfixes, libxpm, libxt from incoming.d.o | 05:07 |
tepsipakki | then there are plain epochs like libxext, libxi | 05:20 |
cjwatson | here, I'll do those | 05:21 |
tepsipakki | ooh :) | 05:21 |
cjwatson | libxcursor libxfixes libxpm libxt done | 05:25 |
cjwatson | libxext and libxi are just s/.*/1:&build1/ in the version? | 05:26 |
tepsipakki | s/1/2/, yes ;) | 05:27 |
cjwatson | shouldn't libx11 be done before some of these? | 05:28 |
cjwatson | oh, I see jcristau said there were no interface changes, ok | 05:28 |
tepsipakki | right | 05:28 |
jcristau | yeah, we'd have a problem if libx11's soname changed :) | 05:30 |
cjwatson | I wasn't thinking soname, I was thinking interface additions which other things might check for at configure time | 05:30 |
jcristau | but afaik there is no shlibs bump here | 05:30 |
cjwatson | ok | 05:31 |
tepsipakki | seems that we have the libraries pretty well covered now | 05:31 |
tepsipakki | libxaw had some "LIB_MAN_SUFFIX=3 configure" stuff.. otherwise it just needs an epoch | 05:33 |
cjwatson | that isn't already handled some other way? | 05:33 |
cjwatson | there were multiple approaches to that | 05:34 |
tepsipakki | and the manpages have migrated from libxaw-headers to libxaw7-dev | 05:34 |
cjwatson | is there a Replaces? | 05:34 |
cjwatson | (or non-clashing filenames) | 05:34 |
jcristau | the manpages sections stuff should be fine now | 05:34 |
jcristau | as in fixed upstream | 05:34 |
cjwatson | that's what I thought too | 05:34 |
tepsipakki | I had some conflicts when I apt-get updated one of my machines | 05:34 |
tepsipakki | but the second run fixed it | 05:35 |
jcristau | hmm | 05:35 |
jcristau | then replaces might be needed | 05:35 |
tepsipakki | actually, one conflict from /usr/share/man/man3/Xaw.3.gz | 05:36 |
tepsipakki | which is the only manpage | 05:36 |
cjwatson | libxext uploaded | 05:37 |
cjwatson | hmm, not so much, forgot -sa | 05:37 |
jcristau | tepsipakki: looks like an ubuntu-only problem | 05:37 |
tepsipakki | damn :) | 05:37 |
jcristau | (just looking at the changelog in debian, so i might be wrong) | 05:38 |
jcristau | but actually, shipping the manpage in libxaw-headers might be more appropriate anyway | 05:39 |
jcristau | so maybe I should move it in debian :) | 05:39 |
tepsipakki | hehe | 05:39 |
tepsipakki | do it! | 05:39 |
jcristau | but then *I* will need the replaces :) | 05:40 |
tepsipakki | bummer :) | 05:41 |
tepsipakki | ok, what do i put in the Maintainer-field for libx11 (and the rest that follows)? | 05:42 |
cjwatson | the default value is listed in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField | 05:44 |
cjwatson | ok, I have to go I'm afraid, so I can't do libxi | 05:44 |
tepsipakki | no problem, thanks | 05:44 |
jcristau | uploading libxaw | 05:59 |
tepsipakki | whee | 06:01 |
tepsipakki | jcristau: I've put libx11 in http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/xorg72/new | 06:08 |
tepsipakki | there's also a debdiff | 06:08 |
tepsipakki | and in it you can see some patches which were included in the old version | 06:09 |
jcristau | I'm pushing today's upload to alioth now, I'll have a look at it after that | 06:10 |
jcristau | *uploads, even | 06:10 |
tepsipakki | ok | 06:10 |
tepsipakki | I need to go home and am offline for ~two hours, thanks so far for all the effort! | 06:11 |
jcristau | np | 06:12 |
jcristau | re: loadable i18n, you need to enable that in configure if you want it | 06:23 |
jcristau | Drop --enable-loadable-i18n from confflags, it does not work with 1.0.3. | 06:23 |
jcristau | See http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2006-July/016861.html | 06:23 |
jcristau | Closes: #392567 Thanks Jrme Marant | 06:23 |
jcristau | but this ^^^ is in the changelog | 06:23 |
jcristau | so... | 06:23 |
seb128 | re | 06:27 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: pong, what is to do now? | 06:27 |
jcristau | seb128: epoch bump for libxi, I think | 06:28 |
seb128 | jcristau: ok, thank you | 06:34 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #38949 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "R128 DRI lockup on PPC" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38949 | 07:35 |
tepsipakki | jcristau: ok, I'll just drop it then, thanks for noticing | 08:24 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #85557 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "AIXGL ATI Mobility Radeon X700 freezes with glxgears, glxinfo reports no rendering, radeon driver used" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85557 | 09:09 |
tepsipakki | seb128: if you're up, there's libxaw with epoch bump at http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/xorg72/new | 09:28 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: looking | 09:28 |
tepsipakki | also lix11, but I wonder if it could cause breakup, thus best left for monday | 09:29 |
seb128 | yeah, I'll not touch that one on friday evening :p | 09:30 |
seb128 | I don't do disruptive upload when I'm not around in the next hours usually | 09:30 |
seb128 | and especially not on friday ;) | 09:30 |
tepsipakki | that leaves us libx11, libdrm&mesa + xorg-server left to do, plus the utils | 09:31 |
seb128 | and the drivers no? | 09:32 |
tepsipakki | of course, but they could be again coordinated with Debian | 09:32 |
tepsipakki | actually not much has happened there, apart from i810 maybe | 09:33 |
tepsipakki | some updates here and there | 09:33 |
jcristau | drivers from 7.1 are compatible with the new server in any case | 09:34 |
tepsipakki | yes, they can be dealt with later one by one | 09:34 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #84034 in Ubuntu "gdm crash when dimming screen (dup-of: 80512)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84034 | 09:40 |
seb128 | tepsipakki: libxaw uploaded | 09:40 |
tepsipakki | yeah, I guess that's it for the weekend, or should we upload apps as well? | 09:43 |
seb128 | I'm still around for like an hour, if you have other things we can upload which will not break anything we can do them | 09:45 |
tepsipakki | maybe it's best to continue with this on Monday. I'll go and grab me a beer ;) | 09:50 |
seb128 | ok, cool | 09:51 |
seb128 | enjoy, you deserve it ;) | 09:51 |
seb128 | thank you for the hard work on those xorg upgrades | 09:51 |
tepsipakki | heh, I'll toss you one ;) | 09:51 |
tepsipakki | there | 09:51 |
tepsipakki | so far it has been fairly trivial.. the fun part is ahead | 09:53 |
seb128 | yeah | 09:53 |
tepsipakki | and thanks to jcristau this has been a bliss | 09:53 |
seb128 | right, thank you jcristau ;) | 09:54 |
jcristau | np :) | 09:54 |
jcristau | it's funny how the packages were created for ubuntu, came to debian, and now go back to ubuntu :) | 09:55 |
tepsipakki | homecoming party! | 09:56 |
jcristau | but I think it's better for everyone if we don't have massive differences in our X packages | 09:56 |
tepsipakki | definately | 09:56 |
seb128 | right | 09:56 |
seb128 | and not only X ;) | 09:56 |
jcristau | yeah :) | 09:56 |
tepsipakki | it's nice to see Brice cleaning up the bugs on Debian, so that the real ones are revealed. Same should be done on Ubuntu | 09:57 |
tepsipakki | but I know at least a dozen ati-bugs that can be closed when the new mesa is in ;) | 09:58 |
jcristau | heh | 09:58 |
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