[03:13] <kgoetz> oh. i just had ltsp-server-standalone fail to install nfs exports :/ or is that a function of build client? *tests*
[03:24] <kgoetz> can access a repository from a browser, but not using ltsp-build-client :/ just my luck
[03:35] <kgoetz> ah, its a function of l-b-c. sorry about noise
[04:58] <eroniusmaximus> Hello
[04:59] <eroniusmaximus> whats a reasonable amount of space to install Edubuntu?
[05:00] <kgoetz> server?go with 5 gig+home space
[05:01] <eroniusmaximus> just want to install it at home
[05:01] <eroniusmaximus> dual boot
[05:01] <eroniusmaximus> on laptop, so i havent that much space
[05:01] <kgoetz> workstation mightr fit in 2 gig
[05:02] <LaserJock> I would still got with 3-5GB
[05:02] <kgoetz> &^^
[05:02] <LaserJock> ~2GB is the required spects
[05:02] <LaserJock> *specs
[05:02] <eroniusmaximus> plus some Swapspace plus some NTFS space or something eh...
[05:02] <eroniusmaximus> hm
[05:02] <kgoetz> 2 gig is 'look dont touch' ;)
[05:03] <eroniusmaximus> i was thinking i want enough to use bittorent to download DVDrips,
[05:03] <eroniusmaximus> hm
[06:17] <kgoetz> anyone had RPC issues with ltsp-server-standalone?
[06:17] <kgoetz> i'm wondering if theres some package doing RPC stuff tahts not dependended on by teh package, but should be (left of because its in -base or -minimial etc)
[06:34] <kgoetz> oh, fixed it. updated kernels, updated ssh keys, rebooted (i stuffed up reming the host), it works. something there fixed it
[07:21] <highvoltage> kgoetz: I've had RPC problems before
[07:21] <highvoltage> kgoetz: but I could never figure out how to troubleshoot it properly
[07:21] <highvoltage> kgoetz: you can halt a thin client with a keyboard, by pressing alt+printscreen+o at the same time
[07:22] <kgoetz> thanks re halting. what an odd way to do it :)
[07:22] <kgoetz> brb
[07:29] <highvoltage> kgoetz: was this also by any chance the first time that server was booted up?
[07:29] <highvoltage> kgoetz: I've also seen that once where it helped rebooting the server after first boot
[07:32] <kgoetz> highvoltage: yes it was (after ltsp was installed)
[08:37] <smile> how risky is it to install Ubuntu onto a laptop
[08:38] <smile> my laptop
[08:41] <LaserJock> depends on what you mean by "risky" and what laptop
[08:41] <juliux> smile, no risk no fun;)
[08:42] <LaserJock> I'm using it it right now on my toshiba to do pretty much everything
[08:52] <kgoetz> ditto my compaq's
[12:17] <lee___> do we really get cds
[12:17] <lee___> for free
[12:17] <lee___> hello
[12:19] <kgoetz> from shipit yes
[12:19] <kgoetz> and patience will get you everware
[12:20] <lee___> now i've ordered for 5 ubuntu cd's will it be completely free
[12:21] <kgoetz> if you ordred 6.06.1 lts
[12:21] <lee___> yup
[12:23] <lee___> is this the latest version of ubuntu?
[12:23] <kgoetz> no. hte latest is 6.10
[12:25] <lee___> is there any diffrence between the two? Can i use it to teach students in my school?
[12:25] <kgoetz> imo 6.06 is better, but there is some nice stuff in the newer versoin. i think you'll find 606 is more stable at any reate
[12:28] <lee___> will they charge me for shipment at my doorstep?
[12:28] <kgoetz> on 606? not that i recall
[12:37] <cbx33> kgoetz, what's better about 6.06 in your opinion?
[12:38] <kgoetz> cbx33: LTS, stability (in a big way)
[12:38] <kgoetz> plus a few gripes aobut edgy
[12:38] <kgoetz> *few little
[12:40] <cbx33> kgoetz, are those gripes going to be fixed in feisty?
[12:42] <bimberi> lee___: nope, delivered to your address of choice at no cost to you :)
[12:42] <kgoetz> cbx33: i dont know, but since one of them is 'using vim-tiny', the boot splash (still), starting stuff once gdm is up, lsb compliance, i doubt it.
[12:42] <kgoetz> one/some
[12:43] <cbx33> kgoetz, if they are bugs, i urge you to report them on Launchpad
[12:43] <cbx33> so we can get them fixed
[12:44] <kgoetz> cbx33: well i suspect they are features (or work in progress features), which is why i havent reported them as bugs. perhaps i should grab a feisty iso (bit late now FF is gone though)
[12:44] <cbx33> true
[12:45] <cbx33> but bug fixes are still possible
[12:47] <kgoetz> daily-live?
[12:47] <highvoltage> cbx33: have you ever heard of a kibibyte?
[12:47] <cbx33> no highvoltage what's that?
[12:48] <kgoetz> kilobyte using 1000 not 1024
[12:48] <highvoltage> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibibyte
[12:48] <highvoltage> I've never seen the term before, which I find strange
[12:49] <cbx33> me neither
[12:49] <kgoetz> you must have seen gibibyte though
[12:49] <cbx33> hard to pronounce fast too
[12:49] <cbx33> kgoetz, I've never seen it
[12:49] <kgoetz> like ubuntu ;)
[12:49] <kgoetz> cbx33: oh
[12:49] <highvoltage> I haven't seen gibibyte either
[12:49] <cbx33> and I'm a netowrk manager
[12:50] <cbx33> i would hope to hav seen it
[12:50] <highvoltage> perhaps I just read to fast and read it as gigabyte and megabyte
[12:50] <highvoltage> cbx33: I'm going to ask a whole bunch of network admins next week :)
[12:50] <kgoetz> cbx33: `ifconfig |grep RX`
[12:50] <kgoetz> notice MiB and KiB
[12:51] <cbx33> highvoltage, blog about it :p
[12:51] <cbx33> kgoetz, now I have seen that before
[12:51] <kgoetz> cbx33: its the short hand
[12:51] <cbx33> but never knew what it really meant,
[12:51] <kgoetz> df -H (iirc)
[12:52] <cbx33> indeed
[12:52] <cbx33> :p
[12:52] <cbx33> it should use
[12:52] <cbx33> GB and GiB
[12:52] <cbx33> or soemthing like that
[12:52] <cbx33> not just G for both
[12:54] <kgoetz> true, but you have to 'opt in' to using the GiB switch
[12:54] <cbx33> true but
[12:55] <cbx33> h and H are very similar
[12:55] <kgoetz> true. if it makes you happy use --si insted of -H :P
[12:56] <cbx33> heh
[01:19] <cbx33> hey juliux
[01:19] <juliux> hi cbx33
[01:42] <Rondom> kgoetz: 1 kibibyte is 1024 bytes not 1000 iirc, the bi means binary or something
[01:46] <kgoetz> are you sure? hm.
[01:47] <kgoetz> your right
[01:51] <cbx33> heh
[01:57] <pirast> hi
[02:01] <pirast> we are now testing edubuntu in essen
[02:01] <pirast> and juliux server is overloaded :-)
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> yay for masochism
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> now to make it useful...
[03:25] <cbx33> hehe
[03:25] <edubuntugirl> Kamping_Kaiser: watch it ;)
[03:26] <smile> I have problem with installation, please help
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> tomorrows problem. 1am is my time to sleep ;)
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> night all. good luck smile
[03:26] <highvoltage> goodnight Kamping_Kaiser
[03:27] <smile> which country are you in
[03:27] <smile> The resizing of the partition doesnt work
[03:35] <jbrefort> smile, a M$Win partition?
[05:48] <dockane> hi.. maybe my question is a bit offtopic, anyway: i am looking for some sort of e-learning software which enables a pupil and a teacher to chat together mathematical issues with some functions for drawing primitives like triangles, circles and x/y(/z) graphs. the teachers os is ubuntu, the pupils probably windows
[06:18] <ace> ping ogra
[06:48] <Shodane> hello
[06:49] <Shodane> does edubuntu include xfce?
[06:55] <highvoltage> Shodane: not by default, but you can install the xfce interface from the archives
[06:55] <Shodane> ok...
[06:56] <Shodane> do you know if there's software included to manage users (ie courses, classes, students...)?
[07:01] <highvoltage> there's schooltool, although it's still under heavy developmetn
[07:04] <Shodane> does it work?
[07:07] <Shodane> that's a calendar...
[08:07] <stgraber> I'm doing some testing on how to smoothly introduce people to Edubuntu (with LTSP). The idea is to be able to connected to the Edubuntu terminal server with the less software and settings needed and that directly from Windows
[08:07] <highvoltage> stgraber: like a Windows client for LTSP?
[08:07] <stgraber> The best would be to use a RDP server on Ubuntu (I heard of xrdp) but it's not easy to connect it to the XDMCP server
[08:07] <stgraber> yes
[08:07] <highvoltage> cool
[08:08] <ogra> there is no xdmcp running on edubuntu
[08:08] <stgraber> but I'm currently looking on the best way to do that
[08:08] <highvoltage> you could probably also do it with Putty and a X server for Windows
[08:08] <ogra> right
[08:08] <ogra> thats the right way
[08:08] <highvoltage> which way, ogra?
[08:08] <ogra> yours
[08:08] <highvoltage> cool :)
[08:08] <ogra> putty and Xserver
[08:08] <stgraber> Actually I didn't find any really free and easy to use X server for windows
[08:09] <ogra> Xorg has none ?
[08:09] <stgraber> there is cygwin but it's not what I call "easy"
[08:09] <ogra> well
[08:09] <highvoltage> a friend of mine installed it on his windows machine last week, and he says it was quite easy
[08:10] <stgraber> My other idea is to try this NoMachine stuff, I heard that the video quality is quite good and it should be easy to install on the server (with sound working)
[08:12] <highvoltage> the good thing about that is that it would be fast over slow connections. but the big downside is, you have to install extra software on the server for that to work.
[08:12] <stgraber> my other problem is that it would be really better to have a standalone software which doesn't need any kind of Administrator right to be launched as the admin are quite paranoiac here ...
[08:23] <stgraber> Oh, I just found a free X server for windows, http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/
[08:26] <highvoltage> hmmm... I wonder if local devices will work if you install dbus for windows
[08:26] <highvoltage> it's probably a far stretch :)
[09:24] <cbx33> stgraber, cygwin is pretty easy ;)
[09:24] <cbx33> check out my blog i did it the other day in under an hour...and I was trying out colinux too
[11:54] <jamie> Can any one help me. I am trying to install an older kernel on ltsp as the latest one on edgy does not seem to support the sound balster module on the sff very well. How do I do this please?
[12:06] <Burgundavia> hmm, no cbx33
[12:09] <jamie> Can any one help me. I am trying to install an older kernel on ltsp as the latest one on edgy does not seem to support the sound balster module on the sff very well. How do I do this please