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| hak0 | Riddell: the ideia beind apt-build is the same as Portage from gentoo , as in build and automating the build for the current hardware/processor , in an automated form , i know i can do apt-get source and rebuild (at least if if i can find the main source package for building X), in the end could rebuild my system to the latest sources/binaryes using only command "apt-build world" | 12:16 |
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| hak0 | Riddell: if you had a P3 450mhz like i have you could understand why i want to optimise all i can | 12:17 |
| Riddell | if I had a 450Mhz machine I wouldn't want to recompile xorg :) | 12:18 |
| hak0 | anyway thanks , it's my fight :) | 12:18 |
| hak0 | :) yes , sounds crazy, but whit distcc and my brother amd64 it could became a dream come true ;) | 12:19 |
| hak0 | use the src luke , inst always that the frase , it's what i am doing it , or do u sugest Vista on my machine :) | 12:20 |
| hak0 | i wish xchat had spell checking .......... | 12:22 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: can you imagin there are things in debian/changelog that have been done in the source..... appears in .diff.gz | 12:57 |
| Tonio_ | not a patch | 12:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: fontconfig package is crap ! | 12:58 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: looks like a kde bug.... | 01:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sans-serif looks normal in gtk apps (gnome, firefox) but fails in kde apps | 01:12 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I even tried to sync the fonts with gtk-qt-engines, firefox looks normal........ | 01:13 |
| Tonio_ | that's weird........ | 01:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: confirmed, no issue with speedcrunch too.... | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | so I guess that's a fontconfig update that revealed a kde bug... | 01:16 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: ping ? | 01:42 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm trying to rebuild qt against new fontconfig... | 02:14 |
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| Zerlinna | Does anyone of you already know if he'll come to LinuxTag in Berlin? (may 30th - june 2nd) | 02:25 |
| Zerlinna | Riddell maybe? ;) | 02:26 |
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| nixternal | gnomefreak: ping? | 05:26 |
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| Lure | Riddell: problems... | 06:56 |
| Lure | Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade/./python-kde3_3.15.2+20060422-2ubuntu4.1_i386.deb Size mismatch | 06:56 |
| Lure | Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade/./python-kde3-dev_3.15.2+20060422-2ubuntu4.1_all.deb Size mismatch | 06:56 |
| Lure | E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? | 06:56 |
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| PaGuX_ | hi folks i am making make kubuntu clone of Mac OS X called KOS XX | 09:37 |
| PaGuX_ | i plan implement all Mac OS X features | 09:38 |
| PaGuX_ | using linux pakages already available | 09:38 |
| PaGuX_ | http://pagux.com/pics/linux.png | 09:40 |
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| yuriy | PaGuX: neat...sorta. why no dock? | 10:16 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: are you there ? | 11:25 |
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| GNUro | good morning!! | 11:44 |
| === sebas got tickets for red hot chili peppers :-) | ||
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| Lure | Tonio_: yep | 12:16 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: the font issue is very strange | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | that's due to fontconfig, but only affects qt3 | 12:26 |
| Tonio_ | no issue with sans-serif on gtk apps | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | so I suspect a qt3 bug discovered after fontconfig issue | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | something like that | 12:27 |
| Tonio_ | but that looks like very hard to patch | 12:27 |
| Lure | Tonio_: :-( | 12:30 |
| Tonio_ | qt isn't impacted too... | 12:31 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: change all the fonts to sans-serif and test speedcrunch, no pb | 12:31 |
| Tonio_ | no pb in firefox to, even with gtk-qt-engines to sync with kde fonts | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | ans pure qt apps like qtparted are affected too | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | so that really looks like an issue with qt | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: so I tried to rebuild qt against the new fontconfig which is a builddep | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | no change unfortunatelly | 12:32 |
| Lure | Tonio_: it may be some new setup in fontconfig, that qt3 does not understand... | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | only a qt expert can fix this I'm affraid... | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: probably yes | 12:33 |
| Lure | Tonio_: do we have latest qt3? | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | but the config in the new fontconfig is exactly the same as before | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | except it is splitted in several files with conf.d | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | that's all | 12:33 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I think so yes.... | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: it would be interesting to compare with others distros | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | is debian impacted too ? | 12:34 |
| Lure | Tonio_: maybe we should check other distro (FC7, Suse 10.3) if they have new fontconfig and any qt/fontconfig patch | 12:34 |
| Lure | Tonio_: do not know | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | hehe, yes, that's my feeling too | 12:34 |
| hunger_t | I noticed some fonts are displayed (and printed) in plain whenever I switch them to bold in OOo. They are displayed in bold by default. Is that the issue you were just talking about? | 12:37 |
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| Tonio_ | hunger_t: that's different issue | 12:39 |
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| hunger | Tonio_: Thanks for the info. | 12:39 |
| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| Tonio_ | hunger: you're welcompe :) | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: hi ;) wanted to talk with me yesterday ? | 12:40 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: heya :) | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 12:40 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: how can one reproduce this font bug you're talking about? | 12:41 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: simply set kde fonts to "sans-serif" | 12:41 |
| Tonio_ | and look at the terrible result... | 12:41 |
| Tonio_ | &&&&"'( | 12:42 |
| Tonio_ | oups | 12:42 |
| Tonio_ | cleaning my keyboard sorry :) | 12:42 |
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| fdoving | Tonio_: sans serif looks good here. | 12:49 |
| fdoving | i only changed the general font, though. | 12:49 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: on feisty ? | 12:50 |
| fdoving | yes. | 12:50 |
| fdoving | feisty ppc. | 12:50 |
| Tonio_ | can you give me a screenshot plz ? | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | that's interesting | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: maybe you just don't "see" the change | 12:51 |
| fdoving | http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kmenu-sansserif.png | 12:53 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: there is a bug :) | 12:53 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: look at dejavu | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | sans-serif is supposed to be dejavu ;) | 12:54 |
| Tm_T | fdoving: Norge? | 12:54 |
| fdoving | Tm_T: ja. | 12:54 |
| Tm_T | Hej. :) | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | in fact sans serif is kind of a virtual font, using the good one depending your charset | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | for you and I it should use dejavu or bitstream vera | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | it doesn't | 12:55 |
| fdoving | what's the problem with the text on my screenshot? it's sans serif, and it doesn't look bad. | 12:55 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: it SHOULD look exactly like with dejavu | 12:56 |
| fdoving | why? | 12:56 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: the problem is that the same font doesn't render the same way with qt and gtk | 12:56 |
| fdoving | dejavu serif? | 12:56 |
| Tonio_ | that's bad for a good desktop integration :) | 12:56 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: yes | 12:56 |
| Tonio_ | no !!! deja vu | 12:56 |
| Tonio_ | not serif, sans-serif is french in fact ;) means "without serif" | 12:57 |
| Tonio_ | so just look dejavu or bitstream vera sans | 12:57 |
| fdoving | dejavu sans? | 12:57 |
| Tonio_ | they are the same :) dejavu is just an alias for dejavu sans | 12:57 |
| fdoving | i don't have 'DejaVu' | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: yes that's another bug ;) | 12:58 |
| fdoving | dejavu sans is broken. | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | kde doesn't show all types and aliases.... | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: because of the "light" ? | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | just put "normal" | 12:58 |
| fdoving | oh what a useless default. | 12:58 |
| Tm_T | Broken =) | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: just use dejavu, normal, size 9 | 12:58 |
| Tm_T | fdoving: Yeah, it's bad. | 12:58 |
| Tonio_ | sans-serif should look like this | 12:59 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I agree that should be the default :) | 12:59 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: do you see the difference ? | 12:59 |
| fdoving | http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kmenu-djavusans.png vs http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kmenu-sansserif.png | 01:00 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: 05:18 < Tonio_> I prefer to spend 5 minutes fixing a bug on feisty than 2 month for edgy... <-- Can i quote you on that? | 01:01 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: please do.... I'd like this process to be changed, really | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | the control is important, be depends on what the fix is.... | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | 50 verifications for a simple .install file change to remove a duplicate file is ridiculous.... | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: they look different | 01:04 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: indeed. | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: you may have high DPI settings, so the change isn't that easy too see :) | 01:04 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: they do, i suspect sans serif doesn't default to Dejavu sans. | 01:04 |
| === Hobbsee considers putting that on the SRU page :P | ||
| fdoving | Tonio_: i'm at 100DPI. | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: it is supposed to, and does for gtk | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: did you set the size to 9 ? | 01:05 |
| fdoving | no, 8. | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: put 9 you'll se the big difference :) | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | fontconfig defaults sans-serif to dejavu | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | works with qt4 and gtk/gnome | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | only fails with qt3 or kde | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | that's wy I suspect a bug in qt3 | 01:06 |
| Tonio_ | I'll put the infos and results of my test on the reported bug on launchpad | 01:06 |
| Tonio_ | I'll probably default kds to dejavu if we cannot fix this.... but I'd like to avoid that, since default dejavu creates other issues with specific charsets | 01:06 |
| fdoving | why would kde/qt override what fontconfig says? | 01:08 |
| fdoving | did you check qtconfig-qt3? | 01:08 |
| fdoving | you can set font substitutions there. | 01:08 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: yes, but it should follow fontconfig in the first palce | 01:09 |
| Tonio_ | note that the bug only appears withlatest fontconfig, no issue with the edgy version ;) | 01:09 |
| Tonio_ | that's the tricky part | 01:09 |
| fdoving | so fontconfig is broken. | 01:09 |
| Tonio_ | we can workarround the issue, but there is a real bug in the way qt3 deals with fontconfig | 01:09 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: no, that's qt since it works with gtk and qt4 :) | 01:10 |
| Tonio_ | that's the strange thing | 01:10 |
| Tonio_ | new fontconfig only creates an issue with qt3 | 01:10 |
| Hobbsee | bah, just bring in qt4 :P | 01:10 |
| fdoving | revert fontconfig to the previous version. | 01:10 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: if it were a fontconfig bug, that would impact all APIs | 01:11 |
| Tonio_ | not only one version of one of them | 01:11 |
| fdoving | well, a new fontconfig creates a problem in one of the apis, i guess that means fontconfig changed something that used to work. | 01:11 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: possibly but hard to find out what ;) | 01:15 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: related to this http://www.debianhelp.org/node/2755 ? | 01:20 |
| Lure | Riddell: ping? | 01:21 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: if it is related, the last comment says it's fixed in qt 3.3.7-2 | 01:23 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/q/qt-x11-free/qt-x11-free_3.3.7-3/changelog | 01:25 |
| fdoving | see the -2 comment | 01:25 |
| fdoving | * debian/patches/61_fcfontmatch_fontwidth_fix.dpatch | 01:26 |
| fdoving | that's what we want. | 01:26 |
| fdoving | i belive. | 01:26 |
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| Tonio_ | fdoving: ahhhhhhhhhhh | 01:39 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: will test this ! | 01:39 |
| fdoving | and what's with the new dpkg-source? | 01:39 |
| fdoving | dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I read that changelog yesterday, but I missed that | 01:40 |
| fdoving | so i'm forced to change the maintainer field. not nice on SRUs. | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: yeah I saw that.... you have to change le maintainer and fill the "old-maintainer" | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | that's a pitty ;) | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: are you testing the build ? | 01:40 |
| fdoving | i was going to, but i'd prefer if you do it. | 01:40 |
| fdoving | my laptop is not very fast :) | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | okay | 01:41 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: that was in the -1 version.... that's why I missed this | 01:42 |
| Tonio_ | -2 sorry ;) | 01:42 |
| fdoving | it was in the -2, yes. | 01:42 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: building, we'll see what about..... | 01:43 |
| fdoving | i'm building too, so we can compare :) | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | sounds interesting, and looks like ressembling to our problem | 01:43 |
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| Tonio_ | fdoving: I'm uploading the built qt on my repo if you wanna test | 02:32 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: did you make .ppc packages too ? :) | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: no ;) | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I don't have a mac.... I just ordered one, but that's a macintel | 02:33 |
| fdoving | macbook pro? | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | yup | 02:34 |
| fdoving | i'm considering one too. | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I have to go.... I'll test during the we.... | 02:34 |
| fdoving | but i think i'm leaning towards a dell latitude d620 instead. | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | let's hope it'll work ! | 02:34 |
| fdoving | ok. | 02:34 |
| fdoving | bye. | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | hum for the same config dell is more expensive than apple | 02:35 |
| Tonio_ | at least in france | 02:35 |
| fdoving | yes, here too, but they have the next business day service thing. | 02:35 |
| Tonio_ | in fact I was surprised, but apple is the cheapest with the same config.... | 02:35 |
| fdoving | i know. | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | even acer is more expensive.... | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | okay I'm left ! seya ;) | 02:36 |
| fdoving | bye. | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | girlfriend asking for me :) | 02:36 |
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| Riddell | Lure: what news? | 06:57 |
| Lure | Riddell: just started adept_updater | 06:58 |
| Lure | Riddell: will write report... ;-) | 06:58 |
| === Riddell crosses fingers | ||
| Lure | Riddell: text messages in GUI seems to be cut | 06:59 |
| Lure | Riddell: "A new version of Kubuntu is available. Click next if you want to" | 06:59 |
| Lure | Riddell: "Downloading and verifying the upg" | 06:59 |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/adept2.png ? | 07:00 |
| Lure | Riddell: yes, but it is cut as written above | 07:01 |
| Lure | after clicking "Finish", nothing happened... | 07:01 |
| Riddell | fooey | 07:02 |
| Riddell | what's in /tmp/kde-root? | 07:02 |
| Riddell | should be a directory named adept-asdf-extract/ | 07:02 |
| Lure | Riddell: nothing... | 07:03 |
| Lure | Riddell: sorry, was checking as regular user | 07:03 |
| Riddell | it needs to be root | 07:04 |
| Lure | Riddell: so I need to run manual install of python-kde3-dev and stuff now? | 07:04 |
| Riddell | shouldn't need -dev | 07:05 |
| Lure | Riddell: or just start python dist-upgrader.py --frontend DistUpgradeViewKDE | 07:05 |
| Riddell | but you do need kubuntu-desktop installed | 07:05 |
| Riddell | but it needs to download the tool first | 07:05 |
| Lure | Riddell: I have | 07:05 |
| Riddell | you have or adept has? | 07:05 |
| Lure | Riddell: I have kubuntu-desktop installed, but not sure how to start upgrader now | 07:06 |
| Lure | Riddell: is it dist-upgrader.py or dist-upgrade.py (wrong name on wiki?) | 07:06 |
| Riddell | well adept should start it | 07:06 |
| Lure | Riddell: it did not :-( | 07:07 |
| Riddell | did you run adept_updater as root? | 07:07 |
| Lure | kdesu adept_upgrader | 07:07 |
| Riddell | and did it download anything? | 07:07 |
| Lure | it did, and I have this /tmp/kde-root/*-extract dir with .py files | 07:08 |
| Lure | Riddell: can it be wrong name of script (see above)? | 07:08 |
| Riddell | but adept just quit? | 07:08 |
| Riddell | wiki will be wrong | 07:08 |
| Lure | Riddell: adept just offered "Finish" to start new tool and nothing happended (also nothing on console afair) | 07:09 |
| Lure | Riddell: I will retry now (adept_upgrader...) | 07:09 |
| Lure | Riddell: shoudl I clean up /tmp/kde-root first (to be on the safe side?) | 07:09 |
| Riddell | doesn't matter | 07:10 |
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| Lure | Riddell: now download was either very fast or not needed... | 07:11 |
| Lure | Riddell: check screenshots on http://lure.lu.funpic.de/tmp/ (UPG-xxx.png) | 07:12 |
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| Riddell | hmm, something broken with the labels not expanding to your font size there | 07:13 |
| Riddell | did it run? | 07:14 |
| Lure | Riddell: no - konsole output is here: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/62 | 07:14 |
| Lure | Riddell: should I start it by hand? | 07:15 |
| Riddell | nothing else on the command line? | 07:15 |
| Lure | Riddell: no. I can try running strace... | 07:16 |
| Riddell | yes do run it by hand (and fix the typo in the wiki if you want) | 07:16 |
| Lure | Riddell: I have strace output - if interested, I can send it by mail... | 07:18 |
| Riddell | of adept? | 07:19 |
| Lure | Riddell: that explains it: | 07:20 |
| Lure | dist-upgrade.py: cannot connect to X server :0 | 07:20 |
| Lure | Riddell: yep strace of adept_updater | 07:20 |
| Riddell | err huh? | 07:20 |
| Riddell | that from running it by hand or with adept? | 07:20 |
| Riddell | the x error | 07:21 |
| Lure | Riddell: by hand | 07:21 |
| Lure | Riddell: sudo -i, then "python ./dist-upgrade.py --frontend DistUpgradeViewKDE" | 07:21 |
| Riddell | just do sudo python ./dist-upgrade.py --frontend DistUpgradeViewKDE | 07:22 |
| Lure | Riddell: crash: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/63 | 07:24 |
| Riddell | meh | 07:25 |
| Riddell | I've no idea | 07:25 |
| Lure | Riddell: me neither ;-) | 07:26 |
| Riddell | could try the Gtk frontend I guess | 07:26 |
| Riddell | but it doesn't look like a frontend error | 07:26 |
| Lure | Riddell: no, it does not help - just trows error on konsole | 07:29 |
| Riddell | what does? | 07:29 |
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| Lure | Riddell: I get the same traceback, just on console if I strip "KDE" in argument | 07:31 |
| Lure | Riddell: it looks like some config/input file is not correct | 07:32 |
| Lure | Riddell: I will probably leave my edgy install for future tests and will rather do clean Herd4 install today | 07:32 |
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| Riddell | Lure: thanks | 07:35 |
| Lure | Riddell: no problem, just ping me when you want me to test again | 07:41 |
| jpetso | Riddell: ping | 07:42 |
| Riddell | hi jpetso | 07:42 |
| jpetso | Riddell: I noticed that Kubuntu Feisty is using my TotallyClear Kopete style | 07:42 |
| jpetso | Riddell: well, actually, the style is not from me, it's just a variation, but anyways | 07:43 |
| jpetso | Riddell: I got the style into Kopete 0.12.1 as "No avatars" variant of the Clear style, but it got lost because I forgot to add it to Makefile.am | 07:44 |
| jpetso | Riddell: which I just fixed | 07:44 |
| Riddell | ah | 07:45 |
| Riddell | Tonio_ ^^ | 07:45 |
| Riddell | jpetso: Tonio_'s the dude who's been playing with kopete | 07:45 |
| jpetso | Riddell, Tonio_: so you might want to configure Kopete to use "the real thing" instead of the seperate style | 07:45 |
| jpetso | Riddell, Tonio_: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdenetwork/kopete/styles/Clear/Contents/Resources/Variants/No_avatars.css?rev=634596&view=rev | 07:45 |
| jpetso | Riddell, Tonio_: the fix. | 07:45 |
| jpetso | er, i mean | 07:46 |
| jpetso | er, no, it's ok, the link works fine | 07:47 |
| Tm_T | Mooh. | 07:51 |
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| Tm_T | jpetso: Thanks again, good work there. :) | 08:16 |
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| jjesse | hmm running feisty with all udpates, it seems the splash screen stops halfway through for me and i get the "old" text bootup w/ all the messages | 09:46 |
| jjesse | anyone else seeing that? | 09:46 |
| ScottK | Not me. You should ask in #ubuntu+1 | 09:47 |
| jjesse | why ubuntu+1 and not to the kubuntu devs? | 09:48 |
| ScottK | More people there on the weekend and you don't really have a development question (yet). | 09:49 |
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| _StefanS_ | hi there | 10:16 |
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| yuriy | jjesse: yeah i get that too, as of a couple days ago | 10:26 |
| jjesse | yuriy: do you think a bug should be reported? | 10:29 |
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| yuriy | i guess so | 10:33 |
| yuriy | i'll turn on my laptop now to make sure it happens | 10:33 |
| yuriy | jjesse: yep | 10:34 |
| jjesse | yuriy: do you want to report the bug or should i? | 10:35 |
| yuriy | jjesse: you, i'm off to eat and stuff | 10:36 |
| jjesse | yuriy: ok thanks | 10:40 |
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| jjesse | yuriy: reported as bug #85893, hopefully i reported it correctly | 10:50 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 85893 in kubuntu-default-settings "[Feisty] Kubuntu -- Problems w/ usplash and boot process" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85893 | 10:50 |
| yuriy | so much for that idea | 10:52 |
| jjesse | sorry to bring you back from dinner | 10:53 |
| yuriy | there is no dinner | 10:53 |
| jjesse | oh, you said you were leaving for food | 10:53 |
| yuriy | i have break starting today and they closed all the cafeterias already | 10:53 |
| jjesse | ah bummer | 10:53 |
| yuriy | i guess it's about time to head home | 10:53 |
| yuriy | i think it's more likely a usplash bug than k-d-s, but we should see if anybody on ubuntu has it | 10:54 |
| jjesse | so i filed it against the correct package? | 10:54 |
| jjesse | sorry got confusde, i thought i selected usplash | 10:55 |
| fdoving | kubuntu-artwork-usplash comes from the kubuntu-default-settings source package. | 10:55 |
| yuriy | it's the theme | 10:56 |
| jjesse | ok | 10:56 |
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| jjesse | the more i play/dig into feisty the more i like the changes/improvements | 10:57 |
| yuriy | yeah it's nice. and polyester is nice, except for the bright purple scroll bars | 10:58 |
| yuriy | those are irritating | 10:58 |
| fdoving | the more i play with c++, the more i understand that i don't understand. :) | 10:58 |
| yuriy | ( ^ kwwii :) ) | 10:58 |
| jjesse | just notifed those purple scroll bars, must be a recent change? | 10:59 |
| yuriy | yeah | 10:59 |
| hunger | When was kcontrol broken? | 11:01 |
| yuriy | hmm? | 11:02 |
| hunger | It does no longer contain any config modules (well, two pretty useless ones are left). | 11:02 |
| hunger | yuriy: Run kcontrol and see for yourself. | 11:02 |
| hunger | OBEX devices are still left... the rest went missing. | 11:02 |
| jjesse | i'm not seeing that | 11:03 |
| yuriy | me neither, i have all the modules | 11:03 |
| hunger | jjesse: I see the usual stuff in guidance, but kcontrol is empty:-( | 11:03 |
| yuriy | i vaguely remember seeing a bug like that but i can't find it | 11:09 |
| jjesse | is system settings the same as guidance? | 11:10 |
| Riddell | no | 11:10 |
| hunger | yuriy: guidance is what you can access via the menus AFAICT. | 11:10 |
| jjesse | another follow up question: when i click on the handbook in system settings it launches khelpcenter with an error message about not finding the handbook | 11:11 |
| jjesse | yet it seems like there are two entries in helpcenter for system settings | 11:11 |
| jjesse | btw hello Riddell | 11:11 |
| yuriy | system settings is what you can access via the menus, guidance is a set of 4-5 modules in there | 11:11 |
| jjesse | yuriy: thanks for explaining | 11:11 |
| hunger | The new theme finally highlights active tabs properly! | 11:14 |
| hunger | Would it be possible to apply the same highlighting to those tabs on the left/right/buttom of kdevelop? Or are those something different? | 11:15 |
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| jjesse | i hate my laptop | 11:17 |
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| Tm_T | Err. | 12:13 |
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