Jucato!br | christian23nv12:12
ubotuchristian23nv: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.12:12
coyotle    ?12:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about api - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apimissmatch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:13
Schuenemann!es | christian23nv12:13
ubotuchristian23nv: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:13
juanocomo estas12:13
juanovolviste ??12:13
juanochristian23nv: unete a #kubuntu-es12:14
juanoJucato: thats spanish not portuguese, dont be insulting :P12:14
Jucatodidn't know12:14
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juanoJucato: :P12:15
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adam_hey, has anyone got kvm working on edgy?12:16
adam_i got the source and compiled it, but im having errors with modprobe trying to stick the module in the kernel12:17
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BluesKaj!pt | juano12:18
ubotujuano: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.12:18
Schuenemannis ubotu a female?12:18
juanoBluesKaj: well, another ET12:18
NightBirdSchuenemann, if you're desperate... maybe...12:18
BluesKajnever know these days12:18
juanoBluesKaj: its spanish not portuguese12:18
SchuenemannNightBird, not that, he says "obrigada"12:19
Schuenemannonly females say that12:19
BluesKajjuano, why would you be insulted ? :)12:19
NightBirdwhat about neither male nor female?12:19
juanonot insulted12:19
juanoi mean dont be a sucker and learn something out of your own country12:19
BluesKajneut bot12:19
Schuenemannjuano, he just confused languages, what's wrong about that?12:20
Schuenemannand besides, pt and es look a lot like each other12:20
adydasok i need to fix this today, ive installed my nvidia drivers changed x11conf and booted, Nvidia splash screen comes up and the cards all working, BUT when i reboot i get a screen error and to regain X im forced to change nvidia to nv OR re install the nvidia.run drivers then it works ok again UNTILL reboot.12:20
juanoSchuenemann: well if im not sure, i wouldnt give a german a french help chat12:20
BluesKajyeah, i d like to see  you tell the diff between swedish and danish , juano12:20
juanoSchuenemann: thats my point12:20
adam_alt tab away for a second and a whole bunch of messages pop up, lol12:21
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juanoBluesKaj: lol, but i dont recomend channels to danish or swedish12:21
Schuenemannwell, he tried helping12:21
juanoBluesKaj: i know, im teadsing ya , dont get upset12:21
daleachis everyone havign trouble with us.archive.ubuntu.com or just me?12:21
daleachare there mirrors?12:21
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juanoBluesKaj: its just a silly joke :P im bored hehe12:21
BluesKajnot to worry , i raised 4 kids like you :)12:22
cox377has there been an update to kde or something, because things feel faster for some unbeknown reason12:22
juanoBluesKaj: hahahahah12:22
juanoBluesKaj: lol12:22
Sannedaleach: generally, <countrycode>.archive.ubuntu.com12:22
juanoBluesKaj: kids ? how old are you ?12:22
daleachis canada ca? hehe12:22
Schuenemannjuano, french and german are very different, your example was poor :p12:23
Sannedaleach: I think so, try ;)12:23
daleachi can just use theirs i guess12:23
adam_has anyone got kvm working on edgy?12:23
Sannedaleach: of course. Or mine, de ;) (a bit far, I guess)12:23
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juanoSchuenemann: well it was an example :P, and portuguese and spanish are a hell a lot different12:23
juanoSchuenemann: i can tell you that :P12:23
daleachi never had this issue with debian12:23
angasulejuano: naah, they're not very different12:23
Schuenemannnot THAT different12:23
juanoangasule: yes they are12:24
angasulejuano: no seas pesado, te digo que no :P12:24
juanoangasule: heheh claro que si :P, solo estoy tratando de que aprendan algo :P12:24
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Schuenemann!pt | juano12:24
ubotujuano: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.12:24
adam_guess no12:25
angasuleSchuenemann: he's from uruguay, they speak spanish12:25
juano!fr | Schuenemann12:25
ubotuSchuenemann: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:25
Schuenemannangasule, I was just kidding :)12:25
juanoSchuenemann: lol12:25
angasuleah :P12:25
christian23nvjuano can u help me_12:25
juanoSchuenemann: liked that ? i bet they get really angry in germany when they speak french huh ?12:25
juanoSchuenemann: hihihi12:25
Schuenemannwell, I don't12:25
juanochristian23nv: sure go into #kubuntu-es12:26
juanoSchuenemann: or better off, when they THINK you are french12:26
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Schuenemannnobody will listen to a german and think he's a french12:26
ochemsuckshey does anyone know how to change the xf86audiomedia button in kubuntu? its assigned to launch amarok and it was a default setting. couldnt find anything in forums.12:26
Sannejuano: angry? Why? Confused maybe, but not angry.12:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:26
juanoSanne: hehe, well i thought they got angry, its what it seemed though, my mom is been to germany , she told me that happened oftenly12:27
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Sannejuano: lol, that's quite funny ;)12:27
juanoSanne: its normal though, since they have tons of imigrants and with all that radical stuff and etc.12:27
juanoSanne: well anyway, this is way to off-topic LOL12:28
juanoso Sanne , Schuenemann , and angasule , please, lets discuss ubuntu12:28
Sannejuano: right (just wanted to point out that I'm german, in case you didn't get that ;)12:29
juanothat goes for me too12:29
Schuenemannwhere? in #ubuntu-fr ?12:29
juanoSanne: hehe :P , yes i know, i know you are with those names lol, specially Schuenemann12:29
SchuenemannI'm not german12:30
SchuenemannI'm from Brazil12:30
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juanowell you have a german last name in case you didnt notice12:30
Schuenemannoh, I haven't noticed it12:31
juanowell then , better off leaving this issue beside then, if you didnt know that12:32
sb9im currently installing httpd - is there a default where the daemon looks for httpd.conf ?12:34
sb9cannot find this option in the stratup script ?12:34
juanoJucato: i hope you didnt get upset :P, i was joking12:34
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flipstarany1 knows how to set up an bnc/proxy for Konversation???12:35
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sb9got it12:37
christian23nvcomo llego al canal de kubuntu-es12:37
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adam_sorry to repeat myself but has anyone got kvm working on edgy?12:38
christian23nvcomo llego al canal de kubuntu-es12:38
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christian23nvjuano estas ahi12:39
christian23nvahora si12:39
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christian23nvel teclado funciona12:39
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Chousukechristian23nv: This channel doesn't speak spanish12:40
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ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:40
xyverzhey, quick question - is there a way to have kubuntu pick the generic kernel over the 386 kernel, so I can enable smp support?12:40
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scoateswhen I enable xinerama, my primary display is mostly black (I can see cursors) and my 2ndary display behaves poorly (mostly only window shadows, but I do see widgets for s aplit second after I mouseover). Help?12:42
flipstardid u installes all drivers correctly?12:42
adydasok i need to fix this today, ive installed my nvidia drivers changed x11conf and booted, Nvidia splash screen comes up and the cards all working, BUT when i reboot i get a screen error and to regain X im forced to change nvidia to nv OR re install the nvidia.run drivers then it works ok again UNTILL reboot.12:43
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scoatesflipstar: I think so. nvidia-settings works for other X modes (just not xinerama)12:43
flipstarhm u can check it with 'fglrxinfo'12:43
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troxorscoates: why not use twinview instead of xinerama?12:46
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troxoradydas: did you install via adept/synaptic?12:47
scoatestroxor: because it stretches the task bar very poorly12:47
scoatesand dialogs pop up in the middle of 2 screens12:47
scoatesand my desktop icons aren't contained properly12:47
xyverzanybody know how I can set the generic kernel as my default, system-wide (instead of having to edit the grub config every time I do a dist-upgrade?)12:47
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troxorxyverz: what if you removed the other one?12:48
xyverzinstead of the 386 kernel12:48
milos83hi people! can someone plase tell me how to install window decoration on kubuntu 6.06 ?12:48
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xyverztroxor: would you believe me if I told you I'd never thought of that?? >.<12:49
troxorxyverz: absolutely not... j/k ;)12:49
adydastroxor: via apt-get i did nvidia-glx12:49
adydasthe rest was via nvidia.coms driver .run file12:49
troxoradydas: do you have nvidia-kernel-common too?12:50
BluesKajxyverz, you can edit grub , but i forgot the cmds12:50
adydasthats where im not sure12:50
adydasits a fresh install12:50
troxoradydas: use the nvidia.run to remove the drivers it installed,  and then subsequently do an apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common12:51
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SatanMonkDoes anyone have any leads on the "tty; jobcontrol turned off" issue?12:51
adydasi allready ahve that ( its the newest version )12:51
xyverzBluesKaj: I was hoping to not need to edit grub every time12:52
scoatesback later. I'll check the log if someone says my name12:53
troxoradydas: iirc, the .run and the packages installed via apt(nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common)  serve the same purpose, so it's usually best to completely remove the files installed by the .run, and use the ones via apt12:53
troxorxyverz: you can also use savedefault in grub too12:54
adydasi installed the apt-get glx and common before i did the .run12:54
adydasbut why dopes that stop it working after a reboot12:54
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adydasthe drivers are live, i x11 and run it works12:54
adydasi reboot and it fails12:54
bxnpis there a upgrade to kde 3.5.6 for dapper12:54
xyverztroxor: oooooh!  I knew it was there somewhere!12:54
troxoradydas: the modules on your drive are probably different from the ones in memory12:54
troxorso when you reboot, the ones on your drive are loaded (broken), and the ones from memory(working) are nowhere to be found12:55
adydasah that does make sense, but why and more importantly how do i fix it12:55
troxorxyverz: np12:55
SatanMonkIs FeistyFawn more stable at the moment?12:55
troxorSatanMonk: where do you get that jobcontrol message?12:56
SatanMonkI get it when I reboot12:56
troxorwhat stage?12:56
SatanMonkI'm using my winblows box right now, because my linux is unusable12:56
SatanMonkI'm using Edgy 64 kernel 2.6.17-1112:57
SatanMonkI get all the way to the Kubuntu splash screen then I get sh: can't access tty; jobcontrol turned off12:58
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SatanMonkwith (initramfs) prompt12:58
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SatanMonkI have been reading the forums like mad.. the only connection I can seem to find is that most of "us" that have this problem are running the 64 bit ver. didn't know if it was a bug12:58
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troxorSatanMonk: do you know how to modify the grub boot line?01:00
troxoradydas: there should be a switch you pass to the .run file, to make it uninstall01:00
SatanMonkcan't quite remember no.. I haven't used linux since debian 2.1201:01
SatanMonkthought that I would give it a go again.... lol01:01
troxoradydas: then, apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* to completely get rid of the driver packages.. (and of course back up any configuration files you may have edited manually, as --purge will destroy them)01:01
troxoradydas: then, just reinstall them with apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common (iirc, that should all work)01:02
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adydasdid i point out that it moans about a kernel modul miss match for some version01:02
adydasthis will fix that?01:02
troxorSatanMonk: in the grub menu, hit 'e', then select the kernel line, hit 'e' again... there should be a root=<hex garbage>. just change that to your partition name, like hda1 or such01:03
troxorSatanMonk: then, hit b to boot01:03
adam_sorry to repeat myself but has anyone got kvm working on edgy?01:03
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ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues01:03
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SatanMonkok... now, I'm dual booting, so if this fails.. I SHOULD be able to boot up winblows right?01:04
troxorSatanMonk: unless you change the windows stanza, yes01:04
SatanMonkalso you should know.. I've never used GRUB before, only LILLO01:04
SatanMonkBut I will give it a shot01:05
SatanMonkSee ya on the other side.... (hopefully)01:05
troxorSatanMonk: grub is nicer, but gl01:05
adam_let me be more specific anyone know why modprobe is saying it cant find the kvm-intel module when im in the folder with the modue01:05
troxoradydas: right, the .run probably installs a newer kernel module, and the packages probably an earlier X module.. those need to be the same01:06
troxoradam_: dunno about kvm really, but did you run a depmod -ae just in case?01:06
adam_didnt know that command, what does it do?01:07
adam_(i could just do it, but then what would i learn, lol)01:07
troxoradam_: generates the dependencies and symbols for modules and stuff01:08
adam_ah ok01:08
adam_do i add the kvm-intel.ko after the depmod -ae?01:08
troxoradam_: nah, don't think depmod takes such args01:09
adam_time to try01:09
shadowhywindanyone have any idea why when i try to use my wireless my my computer slows down to a halt01:09
|lostbyte|Is there a minimal ubuntu cd ?01:10
troxorshadowhywind: if you run `top`, are there any progs using 99-100% cpu?01:10
|lostbyte|Just console..01:10
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adam_still saying it cant find the module that is right there, lol, i wonder if there is a manual way to do it01:11
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adydastroxor: where would i obtain info to fix or match those modules01:12
Sanneadam_: are you sure you are in the modules directory that corresponds to your running kernel?01:12
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adam_hmm, there is just a folder kernel01:13
troxoradydas: installing the nvidia packages with apt will automatically install matching versions01:13
adam_man didnt think about that01:13
adam_i didnt think the source from kvms website would have been kernel dependent01:13
Sanneadam_: you should be in /lib/modules/<kernel-version>01:13
adam_and do modprobe from there01:14
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Sanneadam_: so you compiled the module yourself?01:14
jarncheckinstall is just a replacement for doing "make && make install" that creates a deb, correct?01:14
adam_yeah, i got the source from sourceforge and compiled it01:14
adam_since i dont have fiesty to get it from the repo's01:14
troxor|lostbyte|: did you want to do a network install?01:14
troxorshadowhywind: does `cat /proc/meminfo` show your memory all being used?01:15
Sanneadam_: don't think I know further then, maybe somebody else knows, or ask on the kvms website?01:16
|lostbyte|troxor, nope, Just look for bash and vim for a linux class we have..01:16
|lostbyte|So i dont really need the X01:16
shadowhywindI will have to try to run that command next time i start the wireless..01:16
adydasuname -r01:16
adam_i was gonna go there next01:16
adam_thanks for trying tho01:16
adydasThe following extra packages will be installed:01:16
adydas  linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-38601:16
|lostbyte|And the pc's there have very little memory..01:16
troxor|lostbyte|: dunno if ubuntu has a minimal, but there are tons of minimal cds out there... gentoo's comes to mind01:17
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adydaswhy is apt-get trying to isntall 2.6.17-10 when i have -11 ?01:17
Sanneadam_: should be something simple, I guess, like copying the file somewhere perhaps. Good luck :)01:17
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wastedtimehi everybody01:17
jarncheckinstall is just a replacement for doing "make && make install" that creates a deb, correct?01:17
|lostbyte|troxor, yes, i had my eyes on slax.. did you use it?01:17
troxor|lostbyte|:or something like dsl01:17
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BluesKajlinux looks like it uses a lot of memory but it's mostly cached memory01:18
troxor|lostbyte|: once upon a time, it had a shoe background by default >.<01:18
|lostbyte|troxor, i'll looking for something like dsl or slax with is easly installable..01:18
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wastedtimei have a mepis and win xp installed as a dual boot configuration , i want to install kubuntu over mepis ..01:19
Sanne|lostbyte|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD01:19
mike__adept better than synaptic?01:19
wastedtimeis it ok if i boot into kubuntu and install directly over mepis01:19
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wastedtimeand allow kbuntu to configure the grub loader01:19
jtmoney!find beryl01:20
ubotuPackage/file beryl does not exist in edgy01:20
mike__Just installed kubuntu for the 1st time01:20
|lostbyte|Sanne, forgot to mention, there is no access to the internet.01:20
Sanne|lostbyte|: oh, that may complicate things. ;) Don't know then, sorry.01:20
jtmoneyhmm, i thought beryl existed01:20
troxoradydas: mike__ boxers or briefs?01:21
troxoroops, mike__ *01:21
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Sannemike__: Welcome! :) I like Synaptic better, but that's just me. Try both, if you want. One thing I like in Synaptic is it keeps an installation history. I don't know if Adept has this feature yet.01:22
wastedtimei have a mepis and win xp installed as a dual boot configuration , i want to install kubuntu over mepis .. is it ok if i boot using the kubuntu DVD and install directly over mepis01:22
troxoradydas: hm, try linux-restricted-modules01:22
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mike__Sanne: cheers ,,and what about media codecs?01:22
mike__mp3 ,,wmv etc01:23
troxorwastedtime: it would be ugly, imho, it's probably cleaner to wipe the partition (if you have a separate home, save that, of course)01:23
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Sannemike__: I'll send you a message from the channel bot ubotu about that.01:23
Sanne!restricted > mike__01:23
mike__ok,i have just installed herd 401:24
wastedtimesure will try that .. thx troxor01:24
MrBallZhi, normally how long it takes to packages like KDE 3.5.6 to get to the normal kubuntu repositories ???? it's been almost 3 weeks and nothing ...01:24
mike__Sanne: ok so just "check" the repo?01:24
troxorwastedtime: np, gl01:24
xyverztroxor: hey, thanks for the info about savedefault.  worked like a charm.01:25
Sannemike__: hmm, first I would read the wiki page about resticted formats that ubotu talks about ;)01:25
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troxorxyverz: glad to hear it, np01:25
mike__Sanne: cheers01:25
Sannemike__: did you get ubotu's message?01:25
MrBallZor ... should I always update my sources.list with the new repos ?01:25
mike__Sanne: yes thanks01:25
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Sannemike__: the "restricted" in restricted formats is not identical to the restricted repository (sorry, that's confusing)01:26
|lostbyte|How about ubuntu text base install ?01:26
Sanne|lostbyte|: it's great ;)01:26
|lostbyte|Sanne, using the kubuntu-standard.. ?01:27
|lostbyte|how do i do that..01:27
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Sanne|lostbyte|: isn't there a so called server installation option? Installs just a base system which you can then build up. Am I right, peoples?01:28
|lostbyte|there is.. ? !!!01:28
Sanne|lostbyte|: If I'm not totallay mistaken, I think there is. Let's investigate.01:29
Sanne|lostbyte|: and I don't mean the official server cd, just to clarify01:30
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|lostbyte|yes, .. i was think more of the boot: option..01:30
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Sanne|lostbyte|: I remember some howto in the forums about setting up a minimal system, installing x server and a minimal window manager like fluxbox. Maybe I find it.01:31
|lostbyte|oh. ok01:31
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SatanMonkI'm back01:33
SatanMonkI think I might have a key factor in my tty; jobcontrol problem01:34
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breakerzsomebody use ManDVD on dapper ?01:34
SatanMonktroxor, you still here?01:35
troxorSatanMonk: yep, what's up01:35
Sanne|lostbyte|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems01:35
SatanMonkWell, I tried editing the GRUB, and was using the TAB interface to navigate around.. and found that under /dev I have NO hd___01:36
SatanMonkno hda01:36
SatanMonkor anything listed to that degree01:36
|lostbyte|cool !!01:36
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Sanne|lostbyte|: hehe :)01:36
|lostbyte|its says "To install a base system, boot from the alternate (install) CD and choose "Install a command-line system."01:37
|lostbyte|Hope that comes with vim..01:37
|lostbyte|do you think its in it.. ?01:37
Sanne|lostbyte|: according to the page, it does (in chapter "When it's done")01:37
troxorSatanMonk: grub doesn't know what hda is, afaik.. it deals with stuff like (hd0,0).. the /dev/* stuff is mainly populated after the kernel boots, iirc01:37
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SatanMonkDo you want to know what was in my kernel line for Grub?01:38
|lostbyte|nano !! its diff from vim..01:39
troxorSatanMonk: there's an ext3 filesystem driver for windows, and explore2fs which might help figure out which partition and such contains your /boot dir01:39
troxorSatanMonk: sure01:39
Sanne|lostbyte|: "You can do this with vim or nano" ...01:39
Sanne|lostbyte|: so I think both are in01:40
SatanMonkkernel /boot/vmlinz2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro simple splashscreen01:40
|lostbyte|Sanne, I could, but what about the 8 friends of line that never knew linux exsisted..01:40
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|lostbyte|They just follow the book.01:40
Sanne|lostbyte|: huh? Lost me ;)01:41
|lostbyte|Sanne, Alright, i will check it out. thanks alot.01:41
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SatanMonkWell, I have two hd's, a SATA 320Gb and a ATA 160Gb, Windowns is on the 320 SATA and Kubuntu is on the 160Gb.01:41
Sanne|lostbyte|: you're welcome :)01:41
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SatanMonkSo I know that linux is on a completely diffrent HD rather than farting around with partitions01:42
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memI have them on completely different computers01:42
BluesKajthe boot dir is usually on the first sector of the HDD01:42
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troxorSatanMonk: weird..01:44
SatanMonkI've tried leaving it at root= /dev/hda1 and it comes up that ext3filesys cannot find hda101:44
SatanMonkin a long about way01:44
BluesKajpartitions can work very well , but ppl forget that installing windows destroys the grub bootloader01:44
Tm_THi kids.01:45
SatanMonkI had windows installed first, then I installed Kubuntu01:45
BluesKajyup, that's the right way01:45
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SatanMonkI've had THAT problem in the past ;)01:45
nagyvhello! how can I ask my computer to shut down in an hour?01:45
Algorithmeman shutdown ;)01:46
spitwiseman cron ?01:46
troxornagyv: shutdown -t <seconds>01:46
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nagyvactually I have already tried these, but finally never succeed. Although it seems to be easy.01:46
troxornagyv: sleep <seconds> && shutdown -t now ;)01:47
SatanMonktry typing    shutdown --help   see what paramaters can be done01:47
SatanMonklol... I wish I could --help MY problem right now01:48
spitwisesudo shutdown -t 360001:48
SatanMonkany other ideas troxor?01:49
troxorSatanMonk: what about editing the initrd line in grub? maybe the image is corrupt?01:49
SatanMonkHmmm... never thought of that01:49
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nagyvthx, I think shutdown -h 3600 should work, I always missed -h before01:50
SatanMonk-h?? that's halt01:50
spitwiseoh right01:50
SatanMonk-t is for timed01:50
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nagyvfor halt, as man says first a shutdown event is sent, and without options a maintenance event is given, time is a necessary variable, so no need for the -t switch01:51
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spitwisethe man lied01:51
SatanMonkWhat is the error giving you when you try to do a -t 3600  ???01:52
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nagyvthis: shutdown: time expected01:52
troxorSatanMonk: also, did you try ctrl+c'ing that message and seeing what happens?01:53
SatanMonkYes, but I just get keybord garble01:53
nagyv-t is an unkown switch01:53
SatanMonkdid you --help the options?01:54
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SatanMonkI got dinner troxor, be right back.. wife's calling me like crazy lol01:54
troxorSatanMonk: have fun ;)01:55
adydashow do i install cpp (c preprocessor) that's why you get the /lib/cpp error if apt-get install cpp says its allready installed?01:56
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troxoradydas: what needs this?01:58
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adydasrunning a ./configure01:59
troxoradydas: for what package?02:02
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SatanMonkis there anyway to scroll the screen up so I can see the error? every method I used to know isn't working... then again I used to run zsh too02:08
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SanneSatanMonk: scroll which screen?02:09
SatanMonkconsol screen..02:10
NightBirdhm... I think I'll have to get a differen't kind of apple next time...02:10
SanneSatanMonk: try shift-page up/down02:10
SatanMonkwell, I'm  off to see if I can battle GRUB again02:10
Sannegood luck02:11
SatanMonkyeah... I need it... lol haven't used linux for 7years and then trying to jump back in again while getting boot problems.. thank god I still remember manual shell commmands... lol02:12
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[R] eaperhi, i need help (again)02:13
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[R] eaperi have just installed the ati.com drivers02:15
[R] eaperbut i got this : " (EE) Module ABI major version (0) doesn`t match the server`s version (1)02:16
[R] eaper(EE)Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch02:16
surgycan i use a breezy repo on edgy?02:16
adydas[R] eaper: It sounds like your having the same issues as i had with Nvidia drivers02:17
adydasIf it works anything the same the advice i was given was to uninstall any driver you did manually and apt-get nvidia-common ( in your case find the ati version of that ) Hopefully somone here can help more02:18
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troxor[R] eaper: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide02:20
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[R] eaperi will try that, thx XD02:22
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Mena_i have a problem with the auto packdge mamanger and i forget how to solve it ..the program telling Checking for TCL Scripting Language ... failed02:24
Mena_any ideai02:24
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adydasIs mplayer a decent audio / vidio player?02:26
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troxoradydas: decent is an understatement, it's awesome ;)02:27
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SatanMonkI'm back02:30
SatanMonkI've got my error lines too02:30
troxorsurgy: nope02:30
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surgytroxor: ok thnx :(02:31
Mena_i have a problem with the auto packdge mamanger and i forget how to solve it ..the program telling Checking for TCL Scripting Language ... failed02:31
troxorsurgy: what did you want to do that for?02:32
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surgytroxor: a program i have been trying to get to work has a repo but it is breezy........... i have the source, gonna start compilation now02:33
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SanneMena_: can't you install the application with ubuntu's package manager?02:33
Mena_Sanne, no bec its aMsn .9602:34
bleanna_unuxhow can i customize ubuntu to install only the packages i want during setup? i don't want openoffice or the multimedia apps...02:34
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SatanMonktroxor, when you have a min I have the error lines that I get when trying to boot02:34
SatanMonkif you would like to look at them02:34
troxorSatanMonk: shoot02:34
SatanMonkBegin: Running /scripts/init-bottom...02:34
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BalsamicChickenHi, How do i use command line to cd to a folder whose name has spaces in them?02:35
SatanMonkmount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or directory02:35
SanneMena_: ah, and this version is only in feisty, but you want to try it. Right?02:35
SatanMonkmount :Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: no such file or directory02:35
Mena_Sanne, yes02:35
SatanMonkmount: Mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: no such file or directory02:35
SatanMonkTarget filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init02:35
Mena_Sanne, i try this befor but i forget to memoriz the steps02:35
SatanMonkThen that is when it kicks me to prompt02:35
cpk1BalsamicChicken: tab complete would be easiest or it would be like /home/user/why\ does\ this\ have\ spaces/02:35
SanneMena_: I guess then you need to install the package that ir complains about manually, in this case a package called something like tcl.02:36
cpk1!minimal | bleanna_unux02:36
ubotubleanna_unux: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD02:36
Mena_Sanne, yes its telling me that02:36
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Mena_Sanne, so i must install it02:36
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Mena_Sanne, in fiest do will i need the auto packadge manager02:37
SatanMonklol at this point I'm thinking of trying Fiesty Herd 402:37
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SanneMena_: feisty has aMsn .96, according to packages.ubuntu.com02:37
Mena_Sanne, ok but i mean for all02:38
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SanneMena_: there's a package called tcl8.4, might be what you need. Try installing it with your usual package manager (adept/synaptic/apt-get/aptitude etc)02:38
Mena_Sanne, ok02:39
WiglywormHey, how can I get linux to recognize my wireless card?02:39
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bleanna_unuxcpk1: what apt-get command do i use to install the kde base only? kubuntu-desktop will d/l the entire kbuuntu desktop package02:39
cpk1kde-base =P02:40
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SanneMena_: the problem with autopackage is that is not kubuntu's native package manager, so you kind of have to do things manually. Just keep that in mind if you install things in unofficial ways.02:40
SatanMonkdoes that tell you anything troxor?02:40
Mena_Sanne, hmmm ok02:40
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BalsamicChickencpk1 thx so much for the help with the spaces between folder name thing02:40
BalsamicChickencpk1 i was away earlier trying out different th ings, thx02:41
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bleanna_unuxcpk1: apt-get install kde-base will only install the kde gui correct. not the uneeded mulitmedia, bluetooth, openoffice, and internet apps packages right?02:42
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Mena_Sanne, Thanks Sanne its working now02:43
cpk1bleanna_unux: actually it looks like kde-base might not exist on edgy anymore, one second02:43
SanneMena_: hey cool! And you're welcome :)02:43
Mena_Sanne, :)02:43
Sannebleanna_unux: you can check what the package depends on (and will install) at packages.ubuntu.com02:44
troxorSatanMonk: did hda1 is your root partition, right?02:44
surgyok why cant i get the most recent version of libqt3-mt with apt-get?02:44
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WiglywormSo.. yeah... i'd love to get on the net with linux, if one of you has a minute.02:45
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SatanMonkjust incase I've tried hda and hda502:45
Sannesurgy: because ubuntu is a stable distro that gets no version updates during it's half year life cycle.02:45
WiglywormIs there something I can do to get linux to recognize wireless ethernet? ^_^02:45
surgysanne: any tips on where to get the latest version?02:45
bleanna_unuxcpk1: thank you02:46
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:46
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surgysehr gut02:46
cpk1bleanna_unux: the name changed to kdebase and this is the list of its dependencies http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/kde/kdebase02:46
troxorSatanMonk: could you remind me, is this edgy or dapper?02:46
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Sannesurgy: hmmm, it might be pretty much work, since it might depend on other qt libs, which in turn are connected to kde libs... but you have two options, search for backported binary packages for your ubuntu version, or compile from source (I woudn't attempt that, though, because of all those interdependencies).02:47
SatanMonkedgy 6402:47
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surgysanne: ok02:47
troxorSatanMonk: and the initrd.img is correct and non-corrupt?02:48
Wiglywormhrmmm.. so my network card isn't on the list of supported hardware. Am I boned?02:48
cpk1Wiglyworm: is it on the ndiswrapper list?02:48
Sannesurgy: one thing... if you're on edgy, you could try the kubuntu packages from kubuntu.org. They *do* release updates for kde, so maybe there's also libqt-mt?02:49
SatanMonkyes the image is correct, it doesn't appear to be corrupt, it loads it in the boot up, it's just when it starts to mount images on hda1 they start to fail02:49
WiglywormUh.. maybe? I went to the page that was linked to me, clicked WifiHowTo, and clicked on the link for the list of supported cards.02:50
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mike__Sound is distorted in Mplayer but not vlc?02:50
surgysanne awsome..... thnx ill check02:50
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troxorSatanMonk: you might mwant to give this idea a shot: http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2007/01/msg00369.html02:50
Sannesurgy: yw02:50
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WiglywormIf that's an "ndiswrapper list", then no it is not. I'm a huge linux newb, so I can't say for sure.02:51
troxorSatanMonk: basically, booting your system off a livecd, and updating from there02:51
cpk1Wiglyworm: what card does lshw say you have?02:51
surgysanne: any tips as to where on the website these packages are?02:51
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Sannesurgy: sec02:52
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SatanMonkoh yeah.. I'll read it over... thanks... hey, as well, if it's not salvageable, should I give Fiesty a try?02:52
surgysanne: thnx02:52
troxorSatanMonk: if you want, only on edgy here02:52
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Wiglywormcpk: I have a Buffalo WLI2-PCI-G54s02:53
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SatanMonkalright.. thanks again troxor02:53
cpk1who makes that? buffalo?02:53
Sannesurgy: I can't find the line for your sources.list right now, but you can browse the packages here: http://kubuntu.org/packages/02:53
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WiglywormYes, buffalo.02:54
Sannesurgy: I wouldn't download them manually, though, because you would have to get all the dependencies manually also.02:54
surgysanne: you mean i should be looking for a repo?02:55
cpk1Wiglyworm: looks like it will work with ndiswrapper02:56
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Sannesurgy: yes, and here you can look what it is: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/02:56
WiglywormHmmm, It didn't recognize when I booted up. Is there something special I have to do to get it up and running?02:56
WiglywormOr, I guess, this is where I start reading the guide, huh?02:57
surgysanne: isnt that generator dangeros?02:57
Sannesurgy: don't think so, let me check carefully (at least it spits out the line for kubuntu.org, though)02:57
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cpk1Wiglyworm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 should be pretty straightforward02:58
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surgysanne: no i mean its not safe for me to use the entire sources.list it makes becuase i have repos i added...... i will lose support for those02:58
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Wiglywormthanks again02:59
WiglywormOkay.. grumble... one more question...02:59
cpk1surgy: you just copy paste what you need into your own list03:00
Sannesurgy: ah, I see. I would just use the line it gives for the kubuntu repositories, and add that one only to your sources.list. There's also something about a gpg key you might want to read (in the generated list). It is safe to let it generate the list, it just gives you a text page in yout browser from which you can cut and paste.03:00
WiglywormThat says there are different instructions for the AMD64 version... which is what I'm using. The link is to a blank page, though.03:00
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phobiacI'm trying to install YIM with the "guide" here http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=141103:00
surgysanne: which kubuntu repo line whould have the qt package i need?03:01
Sannesurgy: but, keep in mind, as it tells you, those *are* non standard repositories, so they won't be as stable as the official ones.03:01
Sannesurgy: I'll check03:01
phobiacWhen I try to install version 5.5 (which I assume should work) It gets to the point where it's "updating system configuration" and freezes03:01
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phobiacOn the command line I see this:wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\temp\\GLJ1153.tmp" as Win32 binary03:02
surgysanne: the program i am compiling isnt exactly stable :) so no concern there03:02
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Sannesurgy: if anything has it at all, I would say "Kubuntu.org bleeding edge KDE". Just check that one and let it generate.03:02
Sannesurgy: heh03:02
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phobiacAnyone know what to do? :/03:02
agnostic anyone using notebook HP 500 CM-350?03:03
Sannesurgy: those packages also *might* give problems when you want to dist upgrade. best take note which packages you install from those (I would do that, but ok, I'm also kinda paranoid) :)03:04
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cpk1phobiac: did you get ies4linux first?03:04
Mena_Sanne, sorry there is one more thing require03:05
SanneMena_: which is that?03:05
Mena_Sanne, its telling me a about GUI Toolkit03:05
phobiaccpk1: Yes03:05
SanneMena_: what gui toolkit?03:05
Mena_i dont know ..tk maybe03:05
Mena_its said that03:05
SanneMena_: what's the exact message (if it's much, please paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org)03:06
[R] eaperati drivers still no work, help me03:07
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:07
[R] eaper(EE) Module ABI major version (o) doesn't match the server's version (1)03:07
[R] eaper(EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)03:07
[R] eaper(EE) No drivers available03:07
[R] eaperFatal server error:03:07
[R] eaperno screens foun03:07
surgysanne: i get this public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088 i should be able to fix it with gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys A506E6D4DD4D508   right?03:08
LjL[R] eaper: is that drivers that you got from the official repos?03:08
Sannesurgy: there I must admit that I don't know... I never needed to use those keys. Can anybody else help?03:08
[R] eaperyes03:08
[R] eaperfrom ati.com03:08
Mena_Checking for Tk GUI Toolkit ... failed03:09
surgysanne: although its giving me a key error adept updater is nagging about 80 new updates all the sudden.....03:09
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LjL[R] eaper: that's not "official repos"03:09
LjLit's not even repos to start with03:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:09
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:09
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Mena_i try to install tk but its telling me its one another repo but i have multievers and universe enabled03:10
SanneMena_: I don't know that package name for the tk gui toolkit, so let's search together. I'd like to show you how you can do that, ok?03:11
SanneMena_: ok, go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and locate the text input box in section "Search package directories"03:11
Mena_ok then search for the package03:13
SanneMena_: now we put into this text box one word (I believe multipe words don't work). As we only know "tk", that's what we will use, but it will give lots of hits. You also should choose your distribution in the drop down field (edgy?)03:13
surgysanne: why whould distro updates be effected with bleeding edge kde?03:14
Mena_yes i am edgy03:14
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SanneMena_: ok, then we choose that, and let it search03:14
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Mena_Sanne, i did it but it couldnt find it  With the Tk word03:15
Sannesurgy: the packages might have other version numbers or some other incompatibilities that might give hickups during an upgrade. Just keep it in mind, so you remember that *if* you should get problems.03:15
Skullerhey ppl....i am new 2 the linux world and started off with using Kubuntu.....firstly can anyone tell me where i can find MY COMPUTER?03:15
SanneMena_: I get more than 200 hits...03:15
Mena_i just try this with the name i searched again with desc03:16
Mena_okay no prob03:16
surgysanne: my backup system should stop those complications i think03:16
SanneMena in the result page, you can click on "all" to get all packages on one page, easier to search. I'll do that now  and try to find a tk gui package.03:16
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Sannesurgy: I hope it does. It was just a warning, because lots of users have upgrade problems when they has installed things from unofficial repositories.03:17
Skullerhey ppl....i am new 2 the linux world and started off with using Kubuntu.....firstly can anyone tell me where i can find MY COMPUTER?03:17
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LjLon your desk?03:17
surgysanne: i will just format reinstall and then run a backup03:17
SanneMena_: I have another idea to find it, sec03:18
SkullerLjL: yea thnx....i meant as in the window where ic an see all my HDD's and my ROM's03:18
Sannesurgy: that's indeed always poaaible :)03:18
surgysanne: thnx for the help i think this might work03:18
Sannesurgy: you're welcome :)03:18
LjLSkuller: if i recall correctly (my panel isn't a default one), there are three icons on the left of the KDE panel by default. one is the K menu, and one is for places - in the one for places, there should be "Media"03:19
flipstarmuahhahahahahahha wine rockzzz ^^03:20
SkullerLjL: yea....the MEDIA place has my DVD n CD Drives in it...what about my HDD's?03:20
ForgeAusARGH I think I need to reinstall QT Designer, all the wigets are messed up!03:21
ForgeAusits all black03:21
SanneMena_: ah, I guess I found it. Do you care to learn another trick, or would you just rather I'd tell you the package name?03:21
LjLSkuller: the HD partition from where Ubuntu is booted isn't shown there, simply because it's the root partition. it's under "Filesystem"03:21
LjLother HD partitions should be shown, though.03:21
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse03:21
Mena_Sanne, no porb i care03:21
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:21
Mena_i realt write this things in a text03:22
SanneMena_: ok, can you open a terminal window? konsole for example?03:22
SanneMena_: I'll explain first03:22
SkullerLjL: shud i be able to see my swapspace partition?03:22
LjLSkuller: no... what sense would that make?03:22
LjLit doesn't contain files03:22
SkullerLjL: yea it wudnt...but i was just wondering....03:23
SanneMena_: I thought that a gui toolkit that uses the packe tcl8.0 somehow, will have this package as a dependency. Luckily there's a command that shows us the packages that depend on another package. Type the following in konsole: apt-cache showpkg tcl8.003:23
SkullerLjL: another thing...i downloaded the DVD version of KUBUNTU and installed it half an hour back....i have also tried the CD verision of UBUNTU for a day....what difference is there in the DVD n CD version?03:24
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Kr4t05Is anyone else having that problem with Amarok, where it fails to detect libxine-extracodecs, regardless of the fact that you know it's installed...03:24
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SanneMena_: note the packages under "Reverse Depends", those are all packages that need tcl8.0 to run.03:24
angasuleKr4t05: I trust you have closed amarok and reopened it after installing extra codecs?03:25
underdog5004hey guys, I'm trying to help this guy w/ his lappy over the phone. I'm looking to get his prism 2.5 wavelan chip working...any ideas?03:25
LjLSkuller: i'm not entirely sure - i mean, DVD has more packages included on the disc of course, but then with the Desktop CD you can't install additional packages from the disc at all, i don't know how it works with the DVD03:25
Mena_Sanne, i find two thing with tk03:25
Kr4t05angasule: I had libxine installed for ages, and it worked fine up until 2 months ago.03:25
SanneMena_: now we can quickly look what a certain packae does by typing: apt-cache show <packagename>. Try this command wioth those two tk packages.03:25
LjLSkuller: at any rate, there will be no difference except that, when you select a package for installation, it will be installed from the internet instead of from the disc03:25
troxorunderdog5004: hostap driver?03:26
underdog5004what does that mean?03:26
Mena_Sanne, ok03:26
angasuleKr4t05: did you update right before it stopped working? (I'm shooting in the dark)03:26
troxorunderdog5004: that's the optimal driver for that chipset, the hostap one03:26
Kr4t05angasule: Like... Maybe two or three days, but I ruled that out by downgrading.03:27
Kr4t05That, and no one else I know has the same problem.03:27
SkullerLjL: u mean to say if i install any package from "ADD/REMOVE" i dont need an internet connection with the DVD?03:27
SanneMena_: sorry, I think I borked. You didn't install tcl8.0, didn't you? Wasn't it tcl8.4?03:27
angasuleKr4t05: I guess you've reinstalled amarok, purging and reinstalled, etc?03:27
LjLSkuller: not *any* package, but *some* packages i guess.03:27
Kr4t05angasule: Exhastively.03:28
Mena_Sanne, no i did as you told me03:28
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SanneMena_: what did I tell you?03:28
LjLSkuller: i'm not the person to ask tbh, i don't even have a DVD drive :)03:28
Kr4t05angasule: Do you think that compiling from source would solve it?03:28
Mena_Sanne, install tcl8.003:28
Mena_Sanne, no with 8.403:28
SkullerLjL: ohh....well i guess i'll c wich packages are there then...shud make my life a lot simpler since i happen to be on slow broadband03:29
angasuleKr4t05: no idea, but it'd probably cause conflicts down the line, what about other programs? do they recognize the extra codecs?03:29
SkullerLjL:  thnx fer ur info03:29
angasuleKr4t05: for example, kaffeine, does it work fine?03:29
SanneMena_: then we need to do this command first: apt-cache showpkg tcl8.403:29
SanneMena_: that's a bit more to look through ;)03:30
Mena_heheh yes03:31
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SanneMena_: so I'll help now. As we look for some tk gui toolkit, let's check out the package tk8.4, looks promising03:31
SkullerLjL: yea i managed to get my other partitions to show using the webpage u gave me...thnx03:32
SanneMena_: type: apt-cache show tk8.403:32
Mena_Sanne, ok03:32
Kr4t05angasule: Yes, it plays DIVx, Real, everything.03:33
Kr4t05angasule: Amarok just fails to play mp3 or ogg.03:33
SanneMena_: see the description?03:33
Mena_Sanne, yes03:33
angasuleKr4t05: uh, it fails to play ogg? it should never fail on oggs, I don't think so03:33
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Kr4t05angasule: Then, I should file a bug against it?03:34
SanneMena_: look god, doesn't it? tk toolkit for tcl, graphical, seems like we are lucky, yes?03:34
angasuleKr4t05: hmm, does amarok play *anything*? wav files?03:34
Kr4t05angasule: WAV and WMV03:35
Skulleri have only one floppy drive but it shows 2 drives in my 'media'...one is floppy n other one being floppy0...is this a problem, if yes then how can i fix it?03:35
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angasuleKr4t05: you might ask in #amarok first03:35
Mena_Sanne, yes so i must install tk8.403:35
Shaezscheif i compile a custom kernel, will it still get autoupdated with the latest patches through kubuntu??03:35
SanneMena_: yes, exactly :)03:35
Mena_Sanne,i did heheh03:35
SanneMena_: haha03:35
Mena_Sanne, thats a cool way thanks a lot03:36
Mena_ :)03:36
SanneMena_: you're welcome :)03:36
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Skullerin my /media it shows "floppy" n "floppy0"......"floppy" seems to be a link to "floppy0"....how can i remove this link since it is unnecessary?03:39
flipstar@skuller at my /media folder the one drive is an shortcut...03:40
flipstarso there r just 1 drive03:40
flipstarand btw who cares03:40
Skullerflipstar: yes....but why is the shortcut there when the actual thing is also there?03:40
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Skullerflipstar: basically can u help me to remove it?03:41
SanneSkuller: I wouldn't change any of those files amd links that are put there by the os. It has a reason that's there.03:41
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ForgeAushmm kdevelops designer is only C++ :(03:41
ForgeAusbut kdevelop itself isn't03:42
SkullerSanne: hmm...ok...since this doesnt bother me that much and has a reason to be there i'll leave this matter alone....03:42
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SanneSkuller: I could explain to some degree, but I'm just too tired right now... sorry, maybe another day. I'll go to bed now, bye all.03:43
flipstarbye & gn8 ;):):D03:43
SkullerSanne: no probs...thnx for the info nevaiz...gudnite03:43
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Skullerhow do i make use of my kubuntu DVD in installing packages from IT rather than downloading from the net?03:47
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mike__I had the same prob03:48
flipstaropen the adept manager then goto manage repositories03:48
flipstartop left03:48
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flipstarbut packages from the inet are more up to date (bugfixes security issues)03:49
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[R] eaperhelp!! (again)03:49
[R] eaperreaper@reaper-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe fglrx03:49
[R] eaperFATAL: Error running install command for fglrx03:49
flipstarso the r to prefer03:49
tiermoin ihr buben03:50
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tieranyone a radeon 9600/96000 mobillity?03:51
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tierh anyone a radeon 9600/9700 mobillity?03:51
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dennisterhey ppls :) having a problem with networking my voip service & adapter on drydsl line...anyone?03:53
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Skullerflipstar: no luck with the adept manager....there is no 'manage repositories' and theres hardly anything in the lists of softwares either...and whatever is there is greyed out....what do i do?03:54
flipstaru didnt found the manage repository?03:55
flipstarits on adept manager then clickk on adept on left top and its just the second entry -_-03:56
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Skullerflipstar: ohh...i was using the ADD/REMOVE thingy....now i am in the MANAGER....yea i see it....03:57
[R] eapersudo modprobe fglrx03:58
[R] eaperFATAL: Error running install command for fglrx03:58
[R] eaperhelp please03:58
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ForgeAuswhats modprobe?03:59
tieranyone a radeon 9600/9700 mobillity?04:00
ForgeAusmine is 9600 but not for laptop/mobility its a desktop04:01
tieri had no preblems with a 950004:02
tierbut this is different04:02
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tierits even on windows difficult04:02
[R] eaperanyone a radeon X1600?? :(04:03
tiernormal ati drivers wont do on windows04:03
tierand on ubuntu i cant install them too04:03
tieron windows i use omega04:04
Kr4t05angasule: Turns out it's more of a general xine problem.04:04
Kr4t05I'll be a monkey's uncle if I know what, though...04:04
angasuleKr4t05: ouch :(04:04
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tieror the drivers that have been delivered with the laptop04:05
angasuleKr4t05: well, your siblings must have some odd habits for that to happen :)04:05
doppelganger_i've got a quick question04:05
Kr4t05angasule: That's the thing, I hardly let anyone touch this computer.04:05
doppelganger_i have a multimedia keyboard, with a volume knob on it. When i turn it, it shows a volume thing moving up and down on screen04:06
doppelganger_but it doesn't actually turn anything up, or down04:06
doppelganger_any idea wth that might be04:06
angasuleKr4t05: I was talking about being a monkey's uncle :D04:07
doppelganger_i've played with the sound options a lot..  but it just appears to..  i guess not be "bound" to any particular sound volume bar04:07
Kr4t05angasule: Ah, misread. :P04:07
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doppelganger_i'd like it to control the master sound, which it used to do in kde04:07
doppelganger_but with gnome it seems useless04:07
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flipstar@doppelganger did u set the main canal to pcm?04:08
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esaymubuntu dapper kernel changelog is anyone cares: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-28.51/changelog04:14
esaymI find it interesting04:14
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ForgeAuswow I finally got my ubuntu-minimal back!04:16
ForgeAuswith no complaint!04:16
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:24
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)04:24
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Skuller!ubotu | Skuller04:25
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surgyso what exactly is this package called "kdebase" ?04:29
ubotukdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 88 kB04:30
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surgybut which components04:30
glundbergsurgy, kdebase contains all the essential applications for KDE04:33
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glundbergkicker, KDestop, KControl, Konqueror, konsole, etc04:34
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Skullerhey guys how can i use my DVD of kubuntu to install packages from it?04:39
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surgyglundberg: kewl so im getting new versions of them all :)04:40
esaymwhats the trick to be able to view other people's webcams in kopete???04:41
esaymI search and it seems like I am the only one having the problem04:41
surgyesaym: lotion..... lol j/k04:41
lotusleafSkuller: insert the Kubuntu DVD and it should be available in Synaptic and/or Adept with a refresh AFAIK04:41
esaymlotion? wtf04:42
surgyesaym: just a joke man chill.04:43
Skullerlotusleaf: ohh..ok thnx...i will try it out once the Dept updater has finished patching up my system.....another 4 hours only remaining for the downloads to finish...:D....(damn slow broadband)04:43
esaymyea but I don't get it.  Like a sex joke or something?04:44
lotusleafSkuller: any particular reason why you're using the Kubuntu DVD vs. CD especially if you have broadband?04:44
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lotusleafSkuller: did you download a nightly or whatever?04:44
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Skullerlotusleaf: Due to my slow broadband i downloaded the DVD version so i dont have to go about waiting for ages to install packsages....but after i installed it i dint noe how to make use of the DVD04:45
Skullerlotusleaf: nightly?04:45
surgyesaym:  a webcam cyber thing nvm lol04:45
lotusleafSkuller: ya there are daily or nightly isos04:45
lotusleafSkuller: but you can also mirror a repo04:46
Skullerlotusleaf: i dont get what ur trying to say....04:46
lotusleaf!debmirror > Skuller04:46
esaymlol I don't cyber04:46
esaymso no one has a problem viewing yahoo webcams on kopete then I guess??04:47
Skullerlotusleaf: lol...i dint get a thing the bot just told me04:47
lotusleafSkuller: nevermind then, please proceed with your Kubuntu DVD and we'll go from there ;)04:47
Skullerlotusleaf: sure...thnx m8...04:47
lotusleafSkuller: np :)04:47
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dennisterhey lotusleaf, know anything about networking?04:53
nomad111hey all how do i add a certain app to my session startup in kde04:53
Skullerlotusleaf: i used ubuntu for a day and rememer that while updating the os with patches...the updater used to show an ETA ...but in kubuntu i dont c one...is there a way to find out?04:53
dennister:) <---------opportunist here04:54
lotusleafSkuller: you're using Adept?04:54
lotusleafSkuller: I use Synaptic in Kubuntu :) You may use either one04:54
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nomad111adept rules04:54
nomad111so quick04:54
nomad111loading and searching04:55
Skullerlotusleaf: yea i m using adept...how do i get synaptic?04:55
lotusleafdennister: ask away and if I don't answer someone else who knows may ;)04:55
lotusleafSkuller: install it through Adept and/or sudo apt-get install synaptic from the command line04:55
Skullernomad111: is there any way to see the ETA in adept?04:55
nomad111lemme check04:55
dennisterhave tried coupla times in asking...also trying to be patient :) problem: new dslmodem/router, can't get my voip adapter configured in the software04:56
dennister<-------misses her old router04:56
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Skullerlotusleaf: oh...ok....i'll do dat once i m done with my current updating that finishes in a couple of hours...thnx04:56
lotusleafdennister: also try #ubuntu #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntuforums #kubuntu-offtopic until your answer is found ;)04:56
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lotusleafSkuller: yw04:57
nomad111Skuller: nope there isnt04:57
dennisterk tried ubuntu...will try others...this has been driving me nuts for a week now04:57
nomad111lotusleaf: how do i add a certain app to my session startup in kde04:57
lotusleafdennister: also ##linux ;)04:57
Skullernomad111: oh...das da worst part......well i guess i'll switch to synaptic...thnx fer da help04:57
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lotusleafSkuller: I use and prefer Synaptic but YMMV :)04:58
dennister## networking is dead, and it's not even a linux or ubuntu issue, actually...it's the voip/router software04:58
lotusleafdennister: #security ?04:58
Skullerlotusleaf: k cool...i'll use dat too.....YMMV???04:58
dennisterno, not really a security issue either...have to find out how to nat this device, forward the port...04:59
lotusleafSkuller: your milage may vary ;)04:59
Skullerlotusleaf: lol...yea...prolly...04:59
dennisterwas on phone tech support almost all day, but they're all gone home for the weekend now...and i can't wait more days...phone won't work until this is solved05:00
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dennisterpretty well all companies are passing the buck to each other05:00
lotusleafdennister: if in doubt, forum works it out: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/05:01
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Skullerlotusleaf: why are there 2 separate channels for Ubun and Kubun?05:01
dennisterbut will try some of the off-topic channels...yes, but i've rarely had any luck there...posted lots of info, rarely any helpful responses05:01
lotusleafSkuller: Kubuntu (KDE) & Ubuntu (Gnome)05:01
lotusleafSkuller: both deal with seperate unique issues to each05:01
dennisterbut thank you lotusleaf, for ur support05:02
lotusleafdennister: np gl05:02
Skullerlotusleaf: oh...yes i knoe abt the diff Desktop environments used in both....i guess ppl need help with the things that the environments change as well....05:03
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Skullerlotusleaf: thnx fer tellin me stuff05:03
lotusleafSkuller: there's also #xubuntu and #edubuntu05:03
lotusleafSkuller: yw ;)05:03
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Skullerlotusleaf: ohh....wha does Xu specialise in?...i ave herd that Edu is for student-teacher environment n not for the normal desktop user...isnt it?05:05
Skullerlotusleaf: yw?05:05
lotusleafSkuller: you're welcome05:05
lotusleafSkuller: check each respective website :) links @ ubuntu.com on right hand side :)05:05
Skullerlotusleaf: ohh...lol...soz fer actin such a noob man...05:05
surgyanyone here have an ipod?05:05
lotusleafSkuller: everyone's a newbie at some point05:05
Skullerlotusleaf: k sure...thnx man05:06
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Skullerlotusleaf: hmm...true that....its jus how early and fast u go beyond that point aye05:06
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Skullerlotusleaf: i wanted to play an *.avi file (DivX) using kaffeine....but i cant...do i need a codec for that?05:09
ni-hao777i have the same trouble05:10
ni-hao777i wanting it05:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:10
glundbergdownload xine-extra-codecs05:10
glundbergor something similar05:10
surgyor vlc05:10
ni-hao777from where05:10
surgysudo apt-get install vlc05:11
scribzdoes kdm do an autologin ?05:11
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glundbergyes it does05:11
Skullerohh...how do i enable multiverse n universe repos?05:11
scribzglundberg: how ?05:11
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glundbergSkuller, edit /etc/apt/sources.list05:12
ni-hao777i donwloade two but they cant show me the avi files05:12
ni-hao777i try with the sudo...05:12
ni-hao777im learninig im try05:12
glundbergscribz, System Settings -> Advanced -> Login Manager05:13
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ni-hao777came back after thanks05:13
SkullerWarning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/sources.list" -- using "application/*"05:13
SkullerError: no write permission for file "/etc/apt/sources.list"05:13
Wiglywormhey can I download the ndis wrapper for edgy AMD64 somewhere? I don't have my live CD handy.05:14
Skulleri get this when i edit it glundberg05:14
surgyskuller type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal05:14
surgyskuller uncomment all the repos you want05:14
surgyskuller you have to open the file as sudo05:14
Skullersurgy: ohh..ok...lemme try05:14
ni-hao777i did with sudo but i havent vic packcage i need download it05:15
lotusleafor sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list05:15
glundbergni-hao777, you dont need sudo to watch movies....05:15
Skullersurgy: wht exactly do i do with the page i get after i type in ur command in the terminal?05:16
ni-hao777ok but i have a movie in avi and tell me al progams like i dont have the codec for it05:16
Wiglyworm's that a "no"? :(05:16
jagerdo i need to do anything special to enable mp3 support in edgy?05:16
surgyskuller: a ## is a comment and linux forgets about any lines that start with ## so all the lines starting with something like ##deb need to be just deb understand ?05:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:17
glundbergni-hao777, go here and read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats05:17
joachim_hi nihao just install VLC it  works most common files05:17
scribzglundberg: thanks05:17
surgyyeah its vLc not vic05:17
Skullersurgy: umm....i see lines with a *.....wait..basically i dont get it05:18
surgyskuller: look at the lines starting with ##05:18
surgyskuller: see those?05:18
Skullersurgy: yea05:18
surgyskuller: now read through it, it will say stuff like "uncomment the following lines for multiverse" see that?05:19
Skullersurgy: yea...i do...05:19
surgyskuller: ok now go bellow that to where it is like ##deb blah blah blah05:19
surgyand remove the ##05:19
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Skullersurgy: it is only *deb blah blah blah...not double **05:20
surgyit should be # not *05:20
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Skullersurgy: sori...yea it is #...but only single...should i remove the single ones only05:21
surgyskuller remove the # before all the deb05:21
surgyhold on i can give you an example from my sources.list05:21
surgyskuller here is the line comented "#deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"05:22
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glundbergany cs students here?05:22
surgyskuller and here it is uncomented "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"05:22
Skullersurgy: ok i ave done that.....in the "restricted' it was already removed...i removed the ones from 'universe', what about the multiverse ones?05:23
surgyskuller so remove all the # in front of all of the deb and then press cntrl+o and then cntrl + x05:23
surgyskuller: i whould suggest you remove all of them05:23
surgyincluding the backports05:23
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Skullersurgy:  even the ones from the 'backports'?05:23
surgyand then cntrl + O will save it and cntrl + X will exit05:24
Skullersurgy: ok...done that05:24
surgythen you must type: sudo apt-get update             to update to sources.list05:24
surgyif you get any errors or warnings paste them at www.pastebin.com05:25
Skullersurgy: i am already downloading things in adept updater.....and i also started this.....should i cancel this one?05:26
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surgyskuller: you should never change sources.list while running adept updater05:26
surgyskuller and you cant sudo apt-get with adept running, you will have to wait till its done05:27
Skullersurgy: umm....am i spsed 2 say damn....or can i do anything now?05:27
surgyskuller nothing is broken, just dont do it05:27
Skullersurgy: but....how did this start then?...if adept is already running?05:27
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surgyyou mean apt-get update is running?05:28
MenaHow can i scadule my Pc to shutdown in a time i choose05:28
Skulleryes surgy05:28
surgyskuller let the sudo apt-get update finish, and close the terminal05:29
Skullersurgy: ok...05:29
surgyskuller and then after adept is finished close it, and then your good to go05:29
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Menafriends any idea05:29
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jageri installed a different sound card just now, how do i tell the system to use it?05:30
jageri have a red X on the mixer in the kicker bar05:30
Skullersurgy: k cool.....i hope its all done well...thnx fer da info man....05:30
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surgyskuller: np05:30
Skullersurgy: can u explain me what we jus did?...i mean in regards to that sources list and ctrl-o thingy?05:31
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Menasurgy, how to scaduale my pc to shutdown automaticlay05:31
godvirusWhat package contains the man pages for cos/acos/drand48/printf, etc?05:31
godvirusThese man pages are seemingly missing on my kubuntu edgy system05:32
surgyskuller: sudo gives you super user privs and lets you change everything on the pc, nano is the text editor, and /etc/apt/sources.list is the directory for nano to open...... cntrl+o is just the command for nano to save05:32
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jageri removed and ensoniq audiopci and installed a soundblaster05:33
surgyskuller: also sources.list is the list of servers that kubuntu looks through to find updates and new software05:33
jageri thought the system would autodetect it but it doesn't05:33
surgymena: i dont know look for a program or use your cmos power settings05:33
surgyskuller: is that the explaination you wanted?05:33
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Skullersurgy: ohhh.....cool....and what did we enable/disable in the repos??....i mean....i noe nothing so jus simply speaking why did i have to enable the universe thingies?05:34
jagerlspci doesn't show any sound hardware05:34
Skullersurgy: not exactly but u gave an awesome explanation that i def wanted to know about too...thnx05:35
surgyskuller: we enabled all of the basic repos for software supported by third party venders canonicle and kubuntu, we also enabled the non free or proprietary repos05:35
surgyskuller: now you can get games, your video drivers, and tons of others05:35
Skullersurgy: ohh....and was this the only method to do it?...i mean isnt there any GUI way of doing it?05:36
Skullersurgy: thas cool05:36
surgyskuler yes there is a gui way05:36
surgyskuller: you can go into adept package manager and then click on manage repos05:37
surgyand you could use kate instead of nano, or any other text editor05:37
Skullersurgy: ohh...yea but that wont work coz my adept updater is running05:37
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surgyskuller: exactly05:37
surgyafk for a sec05:37
Skullersurgy: ok...what exactly is being downloaded in my terminal after i did the apt-get update?05:38
surgyskuller: it is updateing your entire system, sorta like winxp getting service pack 205:42
Skullersurgy: umm.....n what is my adept manager doing then?05:42
Skullersurgy: i mean wt is it downloading?05:42
surgyskuller your probably doing the same thing twice05:42
Skullersurgy: damn...i m on 128kbps and i am downloading something twice....great...lol...anyway to do anything to change anything rite now?05:43
surgyskuller: close one...... you might get some shit fucked up, but hey if your in a hurry05:44
Skullersurgy: lol....i think i'll let them download then...dont want mah fresh install of kubun to get messy in anyway.......05:45
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Skullersurgy: nicee.....mah terminal downloading has finished with the downloading crap......but with errors....05:46
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madmattwhat's the fastest vnc viewer?05:48
Skullersurgy: http://pastebin.com/88280505:49
Skullersurgy: if u can please have a look and give me some advice05:49
Skullersurgy: ok...thnx05:49
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surgysee this line: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:51
Skullersurgy: yea...is it the adept mupdater?05:51
surgyit cant "lock" the directory becuase adept is using it05:51
Skullersurgy: ohh.....so is everything alrite or is it screwed?05:51
surgythats why i said you cant update with apt-get untill adept was done05:52
surgyskuller should be kewl, just close ythe term and chill till adept is done05:52
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Skullersurgy: hmm..true man....05:52
Skullersurgy: sure thing....will b bak den in another 3 hours or something...thnx a LOT for all the help till now....laterz man05:52
surgyskuller laterz05:53
surgyskuller and anytime man05:54
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surgywhats the bash equivalent to ipconfig?05:56
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Skullersurgy: umm...i screwed up man...i closed the 'adept manager' thinkin it wud go away from the taskbar to the system tray....but i think it permanently closed....am i screwed now?05:58
Skullersurgy: P.S. it was in the middle of downloading updates05:59
Jucato!adeptfix | Skuller05:59
ubotuSkuller: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:59
surgyskuller: there you go05:59
Skullersurgy: kill process??06:00
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surgy!adeptfix | skuller06:01
ubotuskuller: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:01
surgyskuller: after you do that forget about  adept06:02
gansinhoplease, anyone knows if this repo ( deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ edgy main ) could "harm" my system (sorry the bad english)06:02
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surgyuse konsole06:02
shoehornloverhey ya'll i got a question06:03
Skullersurgy: hey u noe wat...i have nothing to lose if i just do a fresh install of kubuntu.....should i?....so these problems dont affect me06:04
shoehornloveri just took windows off my computer and installed kubuntu and i can't seem to get my wifi working06:04
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Skullershoehornlover: if ur new to linux u shudnt have removed the windows in the first place......dont ask me about the wifi tho06:05
shoehornloverwell i know some about it06:05
SolidSourceshoehornlover: did kubuntu recognize your wifi?06:06
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shoehornloverlspc01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)i says ...06:07
gansinhook, I'll try in other way.. maybe it wasn't clear, it is secure to use the source "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ edgy main"  and upgrade mys system?06:07
SolidSourceshoehornlover: this may help http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Modems_.2F_Network06:08
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SolidSourcegansinho: by upgrade you are using dapper right now?06:08
SolidSourcegansinho: or do you mean update?06:10
gansinhoSolidSource: yep.. I mean, is it safe to sudo aptitude update with this repo?06:10
gansinho*upgrade my packages (sorry)06:10
surgyskuller: dont reinstall thats for pansys :)06:10
gansinhonot dist upgrade, just upgrade the packages06:11
SolidSourcegansinho: yes its part of the main repos http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ will give a complete lise of all the official ubuntu maintain repos06:11
SolidSourcegansinho: and it contains that repo06:11
gansinhoSolidSource: oh thanks a lot! =)06:11
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shoehornloveri have a broadcom 4311 and am using the 64bit unbuntu and have already tried a bunch of ndiswrapper installations06:13
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shoehornlovercould it be because i am running the 64bit cause the tutorials never say if it's for the 64bit or not06:14
SolidSourceits possible but doubtful06:14
SolidSourceis it a removable or internal card?06:15
shoehornloverit's internal06:16
SolidSourceshoehornlover: is it removable or internal card?06:16
shoehornloverthe laptop is a V3010US presario if that helps any06:17
SolidSourceold laptop?06:18
shoehornlover6 months or so06:19
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mshade_what does lspci show it as?06:22
shoehornlover01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)06:23
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shoehornloverits a bmc4311 card06:23
surgyanyone here ever got microsoft's .net framework to work on kubuntu?06:23
esaymanyway to limit the logfile size in konversation?  freaking logs are like 50mb in size and only 1 month old....06:24
SolidSourceshoehornlover: guess I not any help, I can't find anything on it06:24
shoehornloverok thanks for teing though i'll just keep at it06:25
SolidSourceshoehornlover: could try the 32bit version it may work...course I wonder if the wrapper didn't work because you might not have all the IA32 s installed06:25
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mshade_surgy: mono is supposed to be a drop in replacement.06:26
mshade_i can't testify to its ability, but it's known as the OS equivelant06:26
SolidSourceshoehornlover: heres a site that explains how to manually add a network card https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo06:26
Lc_945x3hello, the power management software in kubuntu is limiting my mhz, anybody know how i can go about uncapping my cpu?06:27
surgymshade: doesnt help me with the program im running in wine06:27
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lotusleafsurgy: have you tried #winehq ?06:28
surgylotusleaf: the program isnt there06:28
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surgylotusleaf: sorry ill check there, the program isnt on there site06:29
lotusleafsurgy: no apologies needed ;)06:29
lotusleafsurgy: also see http://appdb.winehq.org/06:29
surgylotusleaf: the appdb is what i was reffering to, the program isnt in the db06:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:30
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bewli cannot get my thumb buttons to work with firefox for the life of me :(06:31
bewlive went through every guide step by step06:32
bewlonly to have my mouse wheel scroll through the pages06:32
bewlinstead of the thumb buttons06:32
SolidSourcedid you install through adept or compile yourself?06:33
bewlinstall what? imwheel?06:33
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Retarded_RicanCan anyone lend me a hand trying to figure out why black on my pc whether on the internet or an imageon the pc itself loops distorted06:35
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SolidSourcebewl: ?06:36
bewlwhat are you asking that i installed?06:36
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Retarded_RicanCan anyone lend me a hand trying to figure out why black on my pc whether on the internet or an imageon the pc itself loops distorted06:37
Retarded_RicanI have the nvidia video card06:37
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SolidSourcebewl: did you install firefox through adept or compile yourself?06:39
bewli installed it through adept06:39
bewlthe thumb buttons on my mouse dont work period.06:39
bewlthey dont ever by default work06:39
bewlyou have to configure it to06:39
SolidSourcebewl: oh...well I don't know, I just a regular mouse06:40
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Dr_willis"Why did you hit me with a Trout?" "Because the mackrel wasent fresh...."06:44
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SolidSourceanyone had the problem of kubuntu-desktop being uninstalled when you uninstall the bluetooth crap?06:56
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Skullerhey guys...can anyone help me decide whether i should use Kubun or Ubun?07:00
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SolidSourcethere really isn't much difference except the interface07:01
Dr_willisInstall one,, then install the OTHER-desktop07:03
Dr_willisand use both as you see fit.07:03
Dr_willisI dont see a reason to just use one or the other07:03
SkullerSolidSource: so which interface do you prefer for a guy who doesnt like crashes, slowups and loves stability in the programs and explorer?07:03
Dr_willisEither one fits those.07:03
Dr_willisI perfer to mixx and match kde/gnome/other apps as needed07:04
SkullerDr_willis: ohh....07:04
SolidSourceSkuller: I like kde since its more pleasing and easier to use...to me07:04
SolidSourcepleasing to the ey07:04
Dr_willisI use k3b under gnome.. but i find some of the gnome settings tools easier to use.07:04
Dr_willisi also like some of the apps that xubuntu installs07:04
SolidSourceyou can install those apps on kde or gnome too though07:05
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Dr_willisI install the whole desktops :)07:05
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SkullerSolidSource: oh...well i like eyecandy too....i guess i'll go with KDE then....and another thing...what is the difference between the DVD version and the CD version of kubuntu?07:05
Dr_willisi got lots of drive space07:05
Dr_willisdvd version i THINK does the live cd + the alt install..07:05
Dr_willisi never bother with the dvd version07:05
SolidSourceSkuller: DVD = less to download07:05
SkullerDr_willis: ohh...well i'll stik with one fer the while....thnx fer ur help07:05
Dr_willisbut any install at this time.. will proberly have a bit of initial updates also .07:05
SolidSourcejust 160 updates....but yeah07:06
SkullerSolidSource: but doesnt that make it useless if the packages in it are outdated?07:06
Dr_willisit means your first apt-get upgrade will grab a lot of stuff07:06
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Dr_willisof course you are talking to a guy that installs all 3 major desktops.. :) so i dont worry about downloading a few gb of updates07:06
SkullerDr_willis: if i install from the DVD do i need to do anything further after installation of the OS to get the things from the DVD?07:07
SolidSourceSkuller: not to me, I like to have as possible even if its outdated cause the update can always be had at a later time07:07
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Dr_willisI never use the dvd.. i perfer to get the latest stuff to install from the net.07:07
Dr_willisim cusious as to what 'extra' packages the dvd would have anyway..07:08
Dr_willisproberly a file list somewhere on the download site.07:08
SkullerSolidSource: ok..i think thats a better option then....wil all the softs in the DVD get auto installed when i install the OS?07:08
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crystuferGot Kubuntu Running in the pc!!!07:08
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crystuferI'm adepting right now.07:09
crystuferI'm so happy!07:09
SolidSourceSkuller: not all by default, but you could select..07:09
phwicketthey guys07:09
phwickettsaid goodbye to vista07:09
phwickettcrappy OS07:09
phwickettgod damn keys07:09
SolidSourceDr_willis: is the CD a liveCD or just an install?07:09
SkullerSolidSource: hwo will i select?07:09
crystuferI hope it was a free trial.07:09
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Dr_willisSolidSource,  you can install from the livecd..07:09
Dr_willisSolidSource,  i tend to use the alternative isntall cd.07:10
phwicketti was wondering if anyone can help me install java and flash07:10
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository07:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:10
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash07:10
phwickettive tried07:10
phwickettim in as rooty07:10
SolidSourceDr_willis: so the CD version is a liveCD....now I am currious to what all extra there is07:10
SkullerSolidSource: yea...u can also install from the cd or the dvd...both act as live as well....even i am curious and want to know whether its worth it07:11
Dr_willis:)the live cd - last i looked.. included some windows software (gpl) to sort of get windows users interested in the tools..  but i aint checked it out in ages.07:11
Dr_willisId just grab the alt-intall cd.. and install that way07:11
Dr_willisit seems to install faster for me then the livecd07:12
SolidSourcethe DVD has some windows stuff on it too07:12
Dr_willisbut its nice to have a livecd or 2, or in my case 20+ around.07:12
Skullerwhere to get the alt install cd from?07:12
Dr_willisthe download sites have the various cd's07:12
phwickettcan anyone help me please?07:12
SolidSourcecourse I got the DVD since I don't like to download cause I have so many problems come about writing my own OS discs07:13
mike__phwickett: tell all07:13
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Dr_willisphwickett,  whats the actual problem?  i normally just do a 'sudo  apt-get install sun-java5-jre'07:13
phwickettjust trying to install java and flash07:13
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phwickettthey are all on my desktop and ready to install07:13
Dr_willisand for flash - you enable the backports repo and install the flash-nonfree package (i think)07:13
Dr_willisyou DONT normally just 'download the packages" and install them.. You set up the repos.. and use the package manager to download/install them07:14
mike__phwickett: enable all repos in synaptic07:14
lucagood day07:14
SolidSourceyes, use package manager...less problems07:14
lucacan someone help me reset the permissions for a ntfs drive?07:14
Crystufer2000This OS is running so fast!07:14
Dr_willisluca,  you normally set those when mounting.07:14
Crystufer2000I just set up a dual boot with windows xp.07:15
Dr_willisluca,  from the fstab, or the mount command options.07:15
Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume07:15
Crystufer2000This is way faster.07:15
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:15
SolidSourceluca: use the disc manager in Kcontrol and remount the partition07:15
lucaI just used ntfsmount to mount it - did I do a wrong thing?07:15
SkullerSolidSource: Dr_willis: l thnx guys...i will just install the DVD version of kubuntu and get used to it...this is my first experience with a linux OS....just a last question....how do i go about installing the 'extra' software that is on the DVD?07:15
mike__phwickett: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-11fb3fe3fa63c12a8fc7dfdd67f21adebc4d8a0b07:16
Dr_willisSkuller,  fire up the package manager, and start clicking.07:16
Dr_willisSkuller,  of course if it finds updated packages on the net.. it will/should download/install them instead07:16
SkullerDr_willis: but wudnt that download from the net instead of gettin it from da DVD?07:16
Dr_willisas it SHOULD do. :)07:17
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Dr_willisif theres some major security issue.. you would want it to get stuff from the net..07:17
Dr_willisyou got some fetish against downloading stuff?07:17
SolidSourceSkuller: I'm thinking just use the CD version...I'm thinking the DVD version just has more when using it as a live disc07:17
Dr_willisSolidSource,  i think so also.07:17
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Dr_willisYou dont hear much about people using the dvd version07:17
SkullerDr_willis: SolidSource: If i install the older version of softs from the DVD and then update them later on through the net will the updating download the whole SOFT again or just an 'update' for it?07:18
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mike__dvd is not needed!07:18
SolidSourceSkuller: dr_willis: the reason I use it cause I paid $3 so I didn't have to download it07:18
mike__oh ok07:18
Dr_willispaid $3?  where? sounds like a rip-off to me.07:18
SolidSourcewell $1.95 for the DVD + 95 cents for shipping07:19
lucawhere should the disc manager be in Kcontrol?07:19
Skullermike__: ok...then i will just install the OS from the DVD and then update using the net....07:19
mike__Feisty Fawn Herd 4,is the 1st kubuntu i have liked07:19
SolidSourceluca: system administration07:19
SolidSourcemike__: how many problems you run into yet?07:20
SolidSourceyet = so far07:20
mike__SolidSource: i d/loaded an additional 100+ mb and have the complete kde desktop,Yet to find a prob07:21
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lucauhm how would I UNmount the drive now that I have mounted it with ntfsmount command?07:21
SolidSourcemike__: well when I tried it alot problems came about, especially with samba07:21
mike__,Installed,java,firefox,opera,frostwire etc etc07:21
mike__oh interesting07:22
SolidSourceluca: you select the drive and click disable07:22
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SolidSourcemike__: why you like opera...I find it clumsy and bloated07:23
defiantCan someone help me install wine please07:23
SolidSourcedefiant: adept07:24
mike__SolidSource: in one word,,gestures07:24
defiantit is not in there07:24
mike__SolidSource: with mouse gestures it is faster than the fox07:25
SolidSourcedefiant: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Windows_Applications_in_Linux_.28Wine.2907:26
SolidSourcemike__: don't see much use of that07:26
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defiantI have tried that and I get errors, I have a 64bit machine07:27
mike__SolidSource: i would not be without it07:27
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SolidSourcedefiant: what error?07:27
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SolidSourcedefiant: cause I got 64bit too and no problems07:27
defiantlet me get the error again and I will tell you, one sec please SolidSource07:28
defiantsudo aptitude install wine07:28
defiantthat part does not work for me07:28
SolidSourcedefiant: thats because aptitude isn't in KDE...its apt-get07:29
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rayluaptitude is in kde...it should be07:29
defiantyea I did apt-get07:29
rayluwhat error do you get when you use sudo aptitude, defiant?07:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:29
SolidSourcewell haven't ever had aptitude command work in kde07:30
rayluI use it all the time. I never use apt-get07:30
defiantI used apt-get07:30
defianti am paste binning the error now07:30
SolidSourceoh I know why07:31
SolidSourcethat repo only has the 32bit version in it07:31
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defiantso what do I do?07:32
SolidSourcewell first you got all the ia32s installed?07:32
defiantI did everything that tut told me to do up until the apt-get install wine07:32
fefferHi all, I'm getting failed dvd burns with k3b-- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6192/07:33
fefferany ideas?07:33
SolidSourcedefiant: you will need to install ia32s07:34
defiantI do not know what that is07:34
SolidSourcedefiant: then download the deb file from http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD6407:34
defiantI have that file07:34
SolidSourcek, follow then follow those directions07:34
defiantI can't get those to work either07:35
SolidSourceyou have to install the ia32s first07:35
defiantthe only reason i need it is becaues I cannot get ff32bit with flash working either07:35
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defiantif I can get that working I do not need wine07:35
lotusleafdefiant: also see #winehq in the future for wine specific questions07:35
SolidSourcedefiant: ok, screw wine then07:36
defiantSolidSourece: Ok lol07:36
SolidSourcedefiant: if you don't install ia32 packages you won't have much luck with 32bit programs07:36
SolidSourcedefiant: that is why you can't install flash07:36
defianthow do I know if they are installed?07:36
SolidSourcedefiant: they aren't installed by default...the easiest way is to use adept07:37
defiantSolidSource: Do I install them all?07:38
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reldruhhello. I just downloaded the feisty fawn herd 4 desktop CD and am trying to burn it with k3b but everytime I do it asks me to insert a double layer DVD+R medium into drive. It recognizes the blank CD-R I have in there just fine. Any ideas on how to get this burned?07:39
lotusleafreldruh: #ubuntu+107:39
reldruhlotusleaf: ah, thank you07:39
lotusleafreldruh: yw ;)07:39
SolidSourcedefiant: ia32-libs -libs-gtk -libss-kde -libs-openoffice.org -libs-scim -libs-dls07:40
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defiantSolidSource: installing now07:40
mike__feisty fawn works well,going to be a good release07:40
reldruhmike__: is k3b 1.0 in it?07:41
SolidSourcemike__: let me know if you get samba working with wins07:41
mike__reldruh: 0.12.1707:42
mike__SolidSource: ok will have a play07:42
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mike__SolidSource: i have never needed samba in the past,,not a big window$ fan07:43
surgyso how is everyone doing tonight?07:43
SolidSourcemike__: I hate windows...but linux sucks on laptops still07:43
ChaosEddiesurgy: blogging about freedom/capitalism/windows etc07:44
surgychaoseddie: mind shareing?07:44
mike__SolidSource: performs well on my new Toshiba?07:44
mike__with wireless etc07:44
surgymike_: sucks on my 11 year old toshiba :) but what doesnt?07:45
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mike__surgy: Might be a little ,,err underpowered07:45
SolidSourcemike__: hmmm07:45
defiantthese things download slow07:46
surgymike_: 400 mhz.... 4 kb video07:46
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mike__SolidSource: I have sidux on my lapy and it rocks07:46
mike__deul boot with xp07:46
mike__I don't see xp hehe07:46
SolidSourcemike__: well can't put it on my laptop yet anyway...no SLI support in linux07:46
intelikeyUncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.07:46
intelikey[17179572.860000]  pnp: Unable to assign resources to device 00:08.07:46
intelikeyhow to find out what 00:08 is ?07:47
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intelikeylspci gives a 0000:00:08.0  0000:00:08.1   0000:00:08.2    so is that where/what it is?07:51
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SolidSourcedon't know07:51
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SolidSourcethough I did get that when tried upgrading to fiesty with 3rd party software installed07:52
intelikeywell if so all that is or is on the aic7xxx scsi card07:52
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ChaosEddiesurgy: link after im done07:52
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intelikeyi guess that's probably what it is.     and  / is on that card so i'll not worry about it07:53
SolidSourcethink the only way to upgrade distros is install what current version of it you got on disc then upgrade before installing anything07:54
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intelikeySolidSource or uninstall every thing non-essential then upgrade07:55
intelikeylike the gui for instance07:55
intelikeyxorg is non-essential and if it's not installed it can't cause problems in the upgrade.07:55
surgychaoseddie: thnx07:56
SolidSourceyeah, too complicated and could probably take more time than reinstalling from disc07:56
intelikeynot at all.   one for loop  can uninstall all non-essentials   and two commands later you are ready to reinstall what you want.07:57
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ubuntuwhat is the command to mount a hard drive?07:58
intelikeysudo mount /dev/hda1 /media    <<< example only07:59
ubuntuthought it was more than that07:59
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intelikeymount is the command to mount things   the device node and mountpoint are options to the mount command   and sudo is the command to 'do things as root'08:00
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ubuntumount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab08:01
intelikeyi stand by my initial answer    Q. what is the command to mount a hard drive?    A. mount08:01
SolidSourceintelikey why not just tell him to use the "kncontrol >> system admin >> disc manager" to do mount...its so much easier and self explaining08:01
intelikeySolidSource he didn't ask for a gui app   he asked for a command.08:02
SolidSourceshould have read question closer08:03
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intelikeyand ***tell him to use the "kncontrol >> system admin >> disc manager"***   doesn't seem simpler than  *** mount ***  :)08:03
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SolidSourceeh, I try not to use konsole too much, can cause too many problems if you misstype something08:04
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SolidSourceoh very funny08:05
SolidSourcebut thats exactly why08:05
netdu1I installed kde4base on ubuntu dev, I don't see kde on gdm!08:05
netdu1I don't see any kde application on ubuntu menu08:06
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Jucatonetdu1: you really won't, as you seem to have installed the KDE 4 snapshot08:07
intelikeynetdu1 only kdebase  no kdecore  ?08:07
Jucatonetdu1: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php08:08
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intelikey& kdesktop ?08:09
netdu1I did not find kde4core, I installed kde4base and kde4lib... that's all what I found08:09
SolidSourcedo you have the KDE repos?08:09
netdu1do you mean this? deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.2/ ./08:10
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SolidSourcefor 1 yes08:10
netdu1just added08:10
Jucatohe installed the kde 4 snapshots. there will be no kde apps in the menu, nor will there be a kde session unless he adds them manually08:11
Jucatoas instructed in that link above08:11
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SolidSourcemakes sense08:11
netdu1still can't fine kde4core08:12
Jucatothere is no kde4core08:13
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intelikeyis this what you got   kde4base_3.80.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb ?08:14
intelikeyor  kde4base_3.80.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb  ?08:14
netdu13.80.2 yes08:15
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Jucatonetdu1: you installed using apt-get right? "sudo apt-get install kde4base"?08:15
Skullerheyy guys.....i just installed a fresh copy of kubun.....have a lot fo questions...anyone free?08:15
SolidSourceskuller sure08:16
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Jucatonetdu1: ok... now, have you read the instructions on how to use the KDE 4 snapshots?08:16
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SkullerSolidSource: hey man...cool....firstly i want to be able to read/write to mah NTFS partitions....08:16
intelikeySkuller no we are all very expensive08:16
Skullerintelikey: ohh..lol...credit card ne1?08:16
intelikey!ntfs | Skuller08:17
ubotuSkuller: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:17
Alpha_Clusterwtf is someone in here trying to install KDE4?08:17
intelikey!ntfs-3g | Skuller08:17
ubotuSkuller: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)08:17
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: beats me...08:17
SolidSourceSkuller: well theres that answer for ya08:17
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:17
intelikey!fuse  | Skuller08:17
ubotuSkuller: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse08:17
Alpha_Clusterlol well KDE4 is only a dev package doesnt run at all like a actual interface08:17
JucatoAlpha_Cluster: I gave him the link w/ instructions, and said a comment or two already... guess it was left unread...08:18
SolidSourcewhats with obsession with beryl....08:18
netdu1Jucato, I'm installing "kde4base-dev" as in instrections08:18
Jucatonetdu1: are you following the instructions on *how* to use it?08:18
Skullerintelikey: thnx man...just following the first method u said...08:18
Alpha_Clusteryou realize its not guna be a usable environment right?08:19
Jucatonetdu1: also take note: "The second development snapshot of KDE 4 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu Edgy. **These are intended for developers only**."08:19
intelikeySkuller don't ignore the second and third posts.  specally the second.08:19
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intelikeySkuller page-up as needed.08:19
Skullerintelikey: ok...i'll chek it out....btw is FUSE safe?08:19
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SolidSourceSkuller: writing to a ntfs is never safe08:20
netdu1yes, I wanna learn about QT4 and kdelibs... "(07:05:48 AM) netdu1: I installed kde4base on ubuntu dev, I don't see kde on gdm!"08:20
intelikeysafe as in safe sex  or save as not out in baseball ?08:20
SolidSourcethats a good question08:20
naught102I know the solution, but does anyone know WHY colorzilla doesn't work with ubuntu firefox?08:21
Alpha_Clusternetdu1: what do you mean?08:21
Jucatosafe as in "this statement won't be sensored because of unfriendly words"08:21
SolidSourcehow about safe as in "your machine won't explode"08:21
Jucatonetdu1: then, as I have already said earlier, please read the instructions on that page on how to use it08:21
SkullerSolidSource: it is not safe for the partition or the file or wat??...i mean i DONT want my XP and its files n my data on ntfs gettin screwed up in ANY way....so shud i have write acces or not?08:21
JucatoSkuller: better not have write access08:22
Linux_Galorenetdu1: gdm/kdm wont magically see kde4  you have to set it up08:22
netdu1my problem is that I couldn't find "kde" to chose as desktop, now you pointed to http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php it has this "To run it as a full session copy" which will fix my problem08:22
godvirusWhat do I need to install so I can see man pages for C functions like printf/cos/drand() etc?08:22
Alpha_Clusternetdu1: also that package for KDE4 is ment to be run while in KDE3.508:22
SolidSourceSkuller: ntfs is too fickle to allow write access...08:22
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Linux_Galorenetdu1: read the howto on the kubuntu home page08:22
netdu1I did not know about08:23
caris_mereI am missing one of the multiverse repositories? Could somebody type it here please?08:23
SkullerJucato: SolidSource: ok thnx guys...then i'll just skip on the write access part...cant afford to screw up anything just coz i want to play music from ntfs08:23
SolidSourcemike__: testing opera to see if mouse gestures are worth my time, where do I set em up?08:23
defiantSolidSource: It is stuck on the jde agreement screen, how do I say ok?08:23
Linux_Galorenetdu1: aah so people magically learn stuff, dude, if you cant follow a simple howto your going to have allot of fun with kde4 unstable08:23
SolidSourcedefiant: tab08:23
intelikeynetdu1 you were told that it's the developement snapshot, it "doesnt run at all like a actual interface"08:24
caris_mereI only have the multiverse backports. Could somebody give me the other multiverse repository?08:24
defiantthat did not work08:24
SolidSourcedefiant: then when "ok" is highlighted "enter"08:24
Jucatodefiant: are you using Adept?08:24
Jucatoyou have to close Adept... then run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in Konsole08:24
SolidSourcelol java and adept....sorry not to have mentioned this before....they don't get along08:25
netdu1I did expect kde to add itself to /usr/share/xsessions08:25
intelikeycaris_mere add multiverse to the universe line/s08:25
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godvirusCan anyone else do `man drand48`?08:25
defiantsudo dpkg --configure -a08:25
Linux_Galorenetdu1: aah so now ubuntu magically deleted kde3 and puts kde4 "dont use this unless your mental" in your login08:25
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defiantit told me that dpkg: status database area is locked by another process08:25
Jucatonetdu1: well it's not. because the KDE 4 snapshots requires a bit more work. hence it's for developers only. it doesn't work like a normal KDE 308:25
intelikeycaris_mere   deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse restricted08:25
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JucatoLinux_Galore: I think he's installing on top of Ubuntu/GNOME08:26
caris_mereintelikey: thanks08:26
SolidSourcedefiant: you need to kill the adept process08:26
Alpha_Clusterthat doesnt help the matter08:26
Skullerk guys thnx....ntfs partition read access done...now to my second query.......How do i enale access to all kinds of repositories in  update thingies?08:26
defiantI do not know how08:27
Linux_Galorenetdu1: trust me, dont use KDE4, its not even finnshed and you may need to have kde3 installed because you may have to swap the kwin engine08:27
Jucatodefiant: have you closed Adept already?08:27
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Jucato!adeptfix | defiant08:27
ubotudefiant: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:27
intelikeycaris_mere most ubuntu repos   standard update security backports... can have all four listings.  restricted main universe multiverse08:27
SolidSourceSkuller: this will give you most repos you need: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/08:27
Jucatodefiant: "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock" then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"08:28
defiantok done08:28
JucatoSolidSource: thankfully, the Adept + Java thing is fixed in Feisty now :)08:28
SolidSourceJucato: they finally did that? about time08:28
intelikeycaris_mere in fact my sources.list file has only four lines  and that contains all the ubuntu repos.08:28
defiantnow what?08:28
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Jucatodefiant: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"? it should finish up the java install08:29
Linux_Galorenetdu1: if your really desperate to watch your desktop crash once an hour go to the kubuntu.org home page and look at the info were it notes kde 4 optional packages08:29
Jucatodefiant: if not, try installing jde again form the command line this time08:29
defiantit just brought me back to a command prompt08:29
caris_mereintelikey: Thanks for the lesson. That's helpful08:29
netdu1Linux_Galore, I'm not installing kde4 to use kde, this is just vmware, I wanna learn about QT4 and kdelib08:29
Alpha_Clusternetdu1: qt4 is in 3.5.x right now08:30
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Jucatonetdu1: if you *really* want to learn about Qt 4, you don't need to install KDE 4, as Qt 4 and Qt 3 can (and already do) live side by side08:30
defiantjucato: I don't know how and each time I look it up it does not work for me08:30
Jucatodefiant: what's the package name you're trying to install? sun-java5-xxx?08:30
SolidSourcedefiant: you need the JRE file08:30
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defiantthe one that was in adept08:30
intelikeycaris_mere welcome or don't mock me... which ever that was :)    hard to hear the inflection or see the expression over irc   so one never knows.08:30
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Jucatonetdu1: if you really want to learn about KDE 4, then start learning to compile/build KDE 4 from source code08:31
Alpha_Clustertru dat08:31
Jucatonetdu1: because the kde4 packages in Kubuntu presume you're already a developer and know your way around already08:32
SkullerSolidSource: i have created the sources list with my preference of repos in it...now what?08:32
defiantnow my adept won't open08:32
caris_mereintelikey: I thought that might sound bad, but that was a thanks08:32
SolidSourcedefiant: go to java.com download the "Linux (self-extracting file)" and follow those instructions08:32
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JucatoSolidSource: hm.. no need for that... Ubuntu already has the latest version in -backports08:32
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defiantthere are four different ones there08:32
Jucatodefiant: install java from the command line08:32
SolidSourceSkuller: now you can start working on getting things installed....run "sudo apt-get update" or fetch updates button in adept08:32
Linux_Galorenetdu1: thats why it says "dont use these packages unless your a developer", a developer doesnt even need an entry in gdmkdm because he knows he can run multiple desktop session from the virtual terminals08:32
Jucatodefiant: which java are you trying to install? jre or jdk?08:33
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SkullerSolidSource: the sources list is still open in KATE....has it been replaced with the original sources list?08:33
SolidSourceJucato: never got java working correctly doing it that way....always just manually downloaded the file and installed...works every time08:33
defiantwhatever one was part of the ia3208:33
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SolidSourceSkuller: save and cloase it08:33
defiantI need to get this stuff to work in 32bit firefox on an amd 6408:33
SolidSourcedefiant: don't install that08:33
Jucato!firefox > Jucato08:34
defiantI thought that is what we where doing SolidSource?08:34
defiantI need flash to work in FF08:34
defiantand java08:34
SkullerSolidSource: sorry for the fuss....but shudnt i save it somewhere and replace sumthing with it rather than just clickin on 'save'?08:34
SolidSourcedefiant: yes but not that one08:34
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava08:34
defiantand I am running a 64bit machine08:34
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Linux_Galoredefiant: then install them08:35
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SolidSourcedefiant: the ia32 java is not what you install for java08:35
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository08:35
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:35
SolidSourceSkuller: kate automatically makes a backup in the /etc/apt08:35
Linux_Galoreberyl = desktop suicide08:35
defiantthat link that ubotu game me does not work for me08:35
defiantthe first step fails08:36
SkullerSolidSource: thnx a lot...i will do the nevessary updating + package installing now....08:36
SolidSourcedefiant: these instructions never failed me: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Java_v5.0.11_for_Firefox3208:36
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intelikeykate 'by default' makes backups of files you edit in the same dir as the file, if you have write access there.08:36
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Linux_Galoredefiant: did you tell your system what you want the default version of java to be, dont forget Firefox  just looks for the "java" binary, in reality its just a ling to a set version of java08:37
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defiantI am lost here08:37
SolidSourcedefiant: using apt-get and adept seem to crash or fail08:37
defiantI am getting different instructions08:37
Linux_Galoredefiant: no this is in the howto, you missed some of it08:38
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Linux_Galoredefiant: type  sudo update-alternatives --config java  select your default java version08:39
intelikeywelcome back scott08:39
SolidSourcedefiant: linux_galore: if you use the instructions ubuntuguide.org gives, it will work08:40
SolidSourceLinux_Galore: I don't think he has java installed at all, it crashed on him08:40
Linux_GaloreSolidSource: I know, but most users just install java and then forget to define it as the default08:41
defiantthis step does not work08:41
defiantgksudo gedit /etc/pango32/pangorc &08:41
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SolidSourceLinux_Galore: has to have it installed first08:41
Skuller!amarok | skuller08:41
intelikeygksudo and gedit are both 'nome apps08:42
intelikeyreplace with kdesu kate08:42
Linux_Galoredefiant: wrong distro instructions08:42
SolidSourceLinux_Galore: what are?08:43
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Linux_GaloreSolidSource: he's trying to use a the ubuntu instructions with gnome commands in kubuntu08:43
defiantso now what08:44
intelikeygksudo and gedit are both 'nome apps08:44
intelikeyreplace with kdesu kate08:44
intelikeykdesu kate /etc/pango32/pangorc08:44
SolidSourcedefiant: linux_galore: it doesn't matter only do cd ~/Desktop sudo chmod 777 ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin sudo ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin08:44
SolidSourcedefiant: linux_galore: it doesn't matter only do cd ~/Desktop sudo chmod 777 ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin sudo ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin08:45
Linux_GaloreSolidSource: eer this is Linux not windows and java is in the repo08:45
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SkullerSolidSource: how do i open the sources thingy from the terminal to enable/disable repos?08:45
SolidSourceLinux_Galore: fine...just the repo has alway crashed08:45
intelikey777 ?08:45
intelikey500 :)08:46
Linux_GaloreSolidSource: ?? there is more than one mirror08:46
Linux_GaloreSolidSource: if apt is broken then run  sudo  dpkg --configure -a    usually fixes it08:46
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SolidSourceLinux_Galore: no I mean it has caused adept and even using konsole has crashed trying to use repo to install jave08:46
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SolidSourceSkuller: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:47
SolidSourceSkuller: just place a # in front of the lines08:47
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo08:47
Linux_GaloreSolidSource: eer you dont use adept to install java unless your on feisty 408:47
defiantok well none of these instructions are working for me, I still get errors08:47
defiantor the commands not found08:47
SkullerSolidSource: if i place a # they get disabled or enabled?08:47
SolidSourceLinux_Galore: again even using konsole commands it fails08:47
Linux_GaloreSolidSource: adept cant install java because there is no were for you to agree to the license08:48
SolidSourceSkuller: # = disables08:48
SkullerSolidSource: i get a big error message.....should i give u the pastebin link?08:48
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Linux_GaloreSolidSource: strange I admin a whole pile of machines and for some weird reason it always works08:48
SolidSourceLinux_Galore: well there is...just have to click "show details"08:48
intelikeySkuller in most configs   # = ignore the rest of this line        also in most scripts    but there are exceptions.08:48
SolidSourceSkuller: yeah pastebin08:49
Linux_GaloreSolidSource: yes but it doesnt always register08:49
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SolidSourceLinux_Galore: I know and I haven't denied that08:49
Linux_GaloreSolidSource: anyway this has been fixed in feisty08:49
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SolidSourceLinux_Galore: but doing through konsole hasn't worked using apt-get commands either08:50
intelikeySkuller in the sources.list   # is the comment char.     every thing after a  #  on any given line is ignored by apt08:50
Linux_GaloreSolidSource: tells me apt - jamed run the dpkg  --configure -a  command08:50
Skullerintelikey: yea thnx....i got that part...but i m gettin an error mssge wen i try to see the sources file08:50
Linux_GaloreSolidSource: put sudo in front of it08:50
ChaosEddiesurgy: BLOG! It only took me 40 hours too. posingaspopular.wordpress.com this is my first *Serious* blog on a *Serious* topic08:51
SkullerSolidSource: intelikey: http://pastebin.com/88287008:51
SolidSourceLinux_Galore: I know all that...done it never worked08:51
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intelikeywell if the page will load....08:51
Linux_GaloreIm out08:51
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:51
SolidSourceintelikey: skuller: wow08:52
SolidSourceSkuller: what have you done so far?08:52
intelikeySkuller i told you used kdesu not sudo...   close the console and reopen it.  then   kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:52
SkullerSolidSource: what happ?...is it bad?08:52
SolidSourceintelikey: whats wrong with sudo?08:53
caris_merein which repository is the libxine-extracodecs?08:53
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB08:53
surgychaoseddie: ok thnx08:54
caris_mereintelikey: I put in those repositories, but it can't find the libxine-extracodecs08:54
defiantI have tried 4 different sets of instructions and none of them work08:54
intelikeydid you update caris_mere ?08:54
caris_mereintelikey: yes08:54
intelikeycaris_mere sudo apt-get update   ?08:55
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SolidSourceintelikey: hmm...never had problem08:55
intelikeySolidSource obviously someone did.08:55
ChaosEddieeveryone in the room is invited to come read it08:55
SkullerSolidSource: intelikey: http://pastebin.com/88287208:55
SolidSourcedefiant: which haven't?08:55
defiantnone of these things work for me to install 32bit firefox and flash08:56
SkullerSolidSource: intelikey: this is with the kdesu and not sudo....btw in both cases the file does open in kate....but the errors show in the terminal....another thing is that the file does not have the extra repos that i added using the o-matic site u gave me08:56
intelikeySkuller are you asking how to get rid of those error messages ?08:56
Skullerintelikey: i m askin why are the error mess there08:57
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SolidSourceSkuller: those messages are normal08:57
SolidSourceSkuller: if you don't edit the sources.list with kdesu or sudo...it won't be able to save08:57
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SolidSourcedefiant: ok time to back track....did you manage to get through all the install of java?08:58
SkullerSolidSource: ok....and what about the automatic sources list generation site that u gave me....it did not add the repos to my sources file08:58
intelikeySkuller cause the ubuntu developers decided that it was easier for people to ignore those error messages than for people that have wacon devices to configure xorg.conf so they would work.   in short your xorg.conf is configured for three wacom devices you don't have.08:58
caris_mereintelikey: sorry, was just a typo08:58
SolidSourceSkuller: thats because you didn't copy and paste them over into the file08:58
dettoaltrimenti_I'm trying to load some proprietary drivers in kubuntu on a dv6000 hp pavilion laptop. Is there a terminal command where I can see what drivers my ethernet card is using? Is there a command where I can see if my ethernet hardware is even being recognized?08:58
SolidSourcedefiant: ok08:59
SkullerSolidSource: ohh...so u mean i have to open the the file using the terminal first...and then paste and replace the contents of the file from the site generated one?08:59
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SolidSourceSkuller: yes08:59
Skullerintelikey: thank you....that was a releif to know08:59
SkullerSolidSource: thnx...then i'll do just that08:59
SolidSourcedefiant: where have you gotten to?09:00
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defiantnothing because no tutorials are working for me09:00
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SolidSourcedefiant: I mean how far do you get into the install before it fails09:00
adydasto mount a smbfs device you use cifs?09:01
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defiantI don't even know which tut to try because neither of them worked with the first step09:01
adydasmount -F cifs -o username=x,password=y //xthdd/store /store09:01
intelikeySkuller if you don't mind editing configs  it's not hard to fix those error messages.  but they are not considered 'offically' to be errors, nor dangerous.09:01
SolidSourcedefiant: not even ubuntuguide.org?09:01
surgydoes kubuntu by defualt have a software firewall?09:02
SolidSourcedefiant: need to know what error messages you are getting09:02
adydassurgy: yes09:02
SolidSourcesurgy: yes, iptables09:02
surgyadydas: how do i open ports on it?09:02
Skullerintelikey: then its ok...i wudnt want to mess around with anything that i dont need to at this moment bcoz of my null experience with linux09:03
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intelikeyJucato it's been so long now sense i've see them, what are they again  eraser mouse and what ???09:03
defiantSolidSource: I did this : sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin09:03
defiantand I got this error09:03
defiantI wasn't able to locate a file for the ia32-sun-java5-bin package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)09:03
defiantE: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?09:03
surgyskuller: i fixed those errors and now i feal empty inside :( lol09:03
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).09:04
Skullersurgy: lol09:04
intelikeySkuller i stand under you.09:04
Skullerintelikey: thnx man09:04
Skullerintelikey: n no u dont09:04
intelikeythen what means "understand" ?09:05
SolidSourcedefiant: well again...you don't use the ia32-sun-java5 packages09:05
surgyumm udotu tells me that my firewall is set to inactive by defualt, but i suspect it is blocking a specific port.....09:05
Skullerok guys my adept managet aint starting09:05
defiantI have even tried this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=117443509:05
intelikeymeans litterally to stand below.  as if to exhalt another.09:05
Skullerwhat can i do now?09:06
intelikey!adeptcrash | Skuller09:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:06
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:06
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SolidSourcedefiant: ok for java thats correct....but theres no ia32-sun-java mentioned in there for you to use09:07
surgyintelikey: can you give me the command to open all ports on my firewall to lan traffic?09:07
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defiantI tried this tut and it did not work either09:07
Skullerintelikey: ohh....thnx man....fer da exalt part...i do a   lot to u all too09:07
nomad111hey all how do i beryl-manager to my sesssion startup in kde09:07
nibletsI turned on my computer today, and discovered that Amarok no longer plays MP3, I get the message "Could not load media, (not playable)" when I try to play one. And when Amarok starts, ti say "Amarok can not currently play Mp3"09:07
surgynomad111: check #beryl?09:08
nomad111surgy: im just asking in general actually09:08
nomad111surgy: how to make certain programs start with each session09:08
ChaosEddiesurgy: did you get a chance to read it? thoghts?09:08
surgynomad111: actually i dont understand the question09:08
SolidSourcedefiant: here is all that you have to do::: 1. download java from java.com to your desktop 2. cd ~/Desktop 3. sudo chmod 777 ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin 4. sudo ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin09:08
surgychaoseddie actually it will be  a while, im having problems with my network09:09
nibletsAny ideas what might cause this, and how I can fix it?09:09
intelikeysurgy heh no.   i'm network illiterate.    but it's something along the lines of  iptables -A eth0 accept all    (i know that's not right. just a jesture in the general dirrection)09:09
SolidSourceerr hate how it doesn't allow seperation of lines09:09
surgyintelikey: thnx09:09
SolidSourcedefiant: I'll put it line by line if you want09:09
intelikeyman iptables09:09
defiantplease because i am completely lost09:10
ChaosEddiesurgy: nextwork first. ttyl i think im about to go to sleep.09:10
intelikeysurgy or even better  download and use quicktables09:10
SolidSourcedefiant: ok download java to your desktop the linux self-extracting one09:10
defiantthere are 4 there09:10
defiantdo I need the one for 64bit09:10
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SolidSourcedefiant: no09:11
surgychaoseddie: ok seeya laterz09:11
surgyintelikey is it easier to use?09:11
defiantrpm or not?09:11
intelikeysurgy it's a pretty cool script that will setup a firewall or help you reconfigure one.  and even has a really handy script "quickblock" to un/block ports/ips/ranges09:11
SolidSourcedefiant: non-RPM09:11
defiantok downloaded09:11
SolidSourcedefiant: this is debian based distro....no RPMs used09:11
surgyintelikey kewl09:12
SolidSourcedefiant: ok type "cd ~/Desktop"09:12
intelikeysurgy put it this way.  i know nothing about networking and i have and can use quicktables09:12
SolidSourcedefiant: then "sudo chmod 777 ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin"09:12
SolidSourcedefiant: then "sudo ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin"09:12
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surgyintelikey: its kewl im getting pings back and forth now, just gotta work on stability09:13
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SolidSourcesurgy: you could try firestart or guardog09:13
SolidSourcedefiant: it work?09:13
defiantthat finished and said done09:14
SolidSourcesurgy: firestarter or guarddog09:14
SolidSourcedefiant: ok now, did you install firefox using adept?09:14
defiantthe one that comes installed09:14
mike__I use synaptic09:14
SolidSourcedefiant: so konqueror09:15
mike__or apt-get09:15
defiantfirefox is installed09:15
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SolidSourcedefiant: interesting....and odd09:15
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mike__Not on my iso09:15
defiantit came installed when i installed kubuntu09:15
SolidSourcenot for me09:15
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mike__or me09:15
defiantI don't know i am using it now and I did not install it09:16
SolidSourcedefiant: well if it is truly firefox....go into your home folder09:16
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mike__defiant: did you d/load updates?09:16
mike__when installing?09:16
defiantmy home folder09:17
SolidSourcedefiant: go to view >. show hidden09:17
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SolidSourcedefiant: then into the folder ./mozilla09:17
defianti am in there09:18
surgywhat whould be some reasons of a windows pc establishing a connection over a lan to a linux pc and then the connection breaking?09:18
SolidSourcedefiant: go to the plugins folder...what is in there09:18
intelikeysamba error ?09:18
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:19
defiantI do not see a plugins folder09:19
SolidSourcedefiant: if nothing...thats ok09:19
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equinoxeBhy there...09:19
equinoxeBahm... xgl fails to start...09:20
defiantthere is no plugins folder09:20
SolidSourcedefiant: ok, thats ok....for now09:20
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:20
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SolidSourcedefiant: oh, just restart firefox completely09:21
caris_mereIn Konsole, how do I show a space that is in a file name?09:21
intelikeysay\ this09:21
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intelikey"or do it this way"09:21
SolidSourcedefiant: then go to http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp and test java09:21
intelikey'or this'09:21
surgyintelikey: thnx for quickblock but i got it09:21
JucatoI think " "09:21
intelikeysurgy np.09:22
SolidSourcedefiant: if is verifys then we can get flash installed09:22
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intelikeysurgy thought looking in the script might enspire ya.09:22
defiantit did not verify09:22
paguxI am back on public demand09:22
defiantI still have firefox for 64bit installed09:23
intelikeypagux good.09:23
intelikeypagux you can take over for me.09:23
surgyintelikey: i got a lot of crap going right now, trying to figure this problem out, looks like im gonna have to manually create offsets09:23
intelikeysurgy not a lot of fun but probably very enlightening.09:24
SolidSourcedefiant: sorry, but unless you installed it, just don't see how that is possible09:24
intelikeylater fellas !09:24
defiantI did not install it and it is here09:24
defiantI use it everyday09:24
paguxintelikey: aviour mon ami09:24
defianteven one of the tuts say that firefox 2.0 comes with the install of kubuntu09:25
SolidSourcedefiant: well.....going to have to say lets uninstall it09:25
surgyintelikey: i know how to switch between terminal instances (F1 - F4) can i do that with xwindows? maybe alt + F11 ?09:25
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defiantok for some reason my apt-get will not work at all now09:25
SolidSourcedefiant: cause I don't know where it got installed09:25
surgygot an error?09:25
paguxis mark shutleworth here ?09:25
defiantit was there09:25
skullersabyay!!....the sources list has been changed by me and adept has found it n the packages are there in "ADD/REMOVE" now...time to get started on selecting....thnx a bunch  u guys09:26
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SolidSourcedefiant: sudo dpkg --configure -a09:26
surgycan someone tell me how to change between xwindows instances?09:26
underdog5004skullers, adept proved pretty buggy for me, you might wanna try synaptic09:27
underdog5004!synaptic | Skuller09:27
ubotuSkuller: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto09:27
defiantnow what09:27
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SolidSourcedefiant: ok, now try to open adept or synaptic...whichever09:28
paguxhi  folks i am making  make kubuntu clone of Mac OS X called KOS XX09:28
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defiantnope it will not open09:28
paguxit will have all features of OS X09:28
paguxofcouse Open Source09:28
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SolidSourcedefiant: ok trying to install those ia32 java screwed it up09:30
Skullerunderdog5004: thnx man...even i figured adept is quite buggy and many ppl have 2 use the adeptfix...09:30
SolidSourcedefiant: remove those first09:30
Skullerunderdog5004: i will download adept asap09:30
underdog5004lol, yeah, I hated it09:30
underdog5004Skuller, no, synaptic is what you want/need09:30
staar2i have problems with my kubuntu09:30
Skullerunderdog5004: lol..i meant synaptic09:30
paguxi plan implement all Mac OS X features09:30
underdog5004staar2, what's happening?09:31
defiantnothigng will open for me to uninstall them09:31
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staar2http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2168648#post2168648 -- here typed my problem09:31
SolidSourcedefiant: ??09:31
defiantI cannot uninstall them i cannot do apt-get nor can i open adept09:31
underdog5004taking a look now09:31
staar2k thats good and ty09:32
underdog5004defiant, try sudo apt-get remove --purge package_name09:32
SolidSourcedefiant: ok so "sudo apt-get remove ia32-sun-java5-bin" doesn't work?09:32
paguxAlso a Vista  linux implementation  called Kickbista09:32
SolidSourceyeah purge might help09:32
paguxwhat ya guys think ;-)09:32
defiantyea that worked09:32
defiantno it did not09:32
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underdog5004staar2, I believe there is a gui for that sort of thing...SystemGuard or something like that....or if you like the command line, killall process_name09:33
defiantErrors where encountered while processing Aborted09:33
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oFF-beAtoffbeat@offbeat-desktop:~/kmess-cvs$ make -f Makefile.dist09:33
oFF-beAtThis Makefile is only for the CVS repository09:33
oFF-beAtThis will be deleted before making the distribution09:33
oFF-beAt*** YOU'RE USING autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.60.09:33
oFF-beAt*** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer09:33
cpk1aptitude install -f would probably be a good idea too09:33
oFF-beAtmake[1] : *** [cvs]  Error 109:33
oFF-beAtsorry didn;t realise it was that long09:33
cpk1the java package is probably hanging defiant09:33
underdog5004!pastebin | oFF-beAt09:34
ubotuoFF-beAt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:34
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nomad111hey again is there desktop picker tool that can be placed on the desktop09:34
Skullerhow do i install synaptic?09:34
SolidSourcepagux: first of all screw anything related to vista....and second, don't want more things to be like mac...09:34
oFF-beAtunderdog5004, sorry abt that i meant to paste 2 line sonly09:34
nomad111the one in the task bar takes too much space09:34
underdog5004Skuller, sudo apt-get install synaptic09:34
underdog5004Skuller, I believe you need to add some repos first...not sure about that one...09:34
mike__adept is inept hehe09:34
SolidSourceunderdog5004: any ideas on how to get apt-get and adept working again?09:35
nomad111adept is the best lol09:35
mike__been a little flakey here09:35
lotusleafSkuller: are you serious? I told you how earlier09:35
underdog5004SolidSource, what kinda problem you got?09:35
SolidSourceadept has its issues just as much as anything else09:35
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surgyunderdog5004: whats the macro for changing between instances of X ?09:35
underdog5004nomad111, no way, synaptic is the best09:35
oFF-beAthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6194/   ok.. someone pls tell me what's wring??09:35
SolidSourceunderdog5004: working on defiants problem09:36
Skullerunderdog5004: yea dw about the repos...i added most of them....09:36
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underdog5004surgy, I have no idea...sorry09:36
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:36
Skullerlotusleaf: lol...told me wat earlier man?...sorri if i forgot...i am panicking most of the time i use linux09:36
nomad111underdog5004: synaptic doesnt load quick and searching is as quick as adept either09:37
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nomad111underdog5004: at least from my end09:37
nomad111searching isnt*09:37
adydashow do you mount a network drive, it says bad file system to a mount -t cifs09:37
surgycan someone tell me the macro to change between instances of X ?09:37
cpk1defiant: try sudo dpkg --configure -a if your java package is hanging09:37
lotusleafSkuller: when people are kind enough to help you, it helps to be kind enough to pay attention ;)09:37
underdog5004nomad111, yeah, that's true, in my estimation, but it's solid and won't uninstall half your system (that happened tome w/ adept...had to reinstall)09:37
SolidSourcecpk1: thats not the problem09:37
lotusleafSkuller: install it through Adept and/or sudo apt-get install synaptic from the command line09:37
Skullerlotusleaf: yes man....i am reali sorri about that.....09:37
defiantback to a command prompt09:38
lotusleafSkuller: /msg nickserv help register09:38
cpk1it sure looks like the java package is hanging...09:38
Skullerlotusleaf: yea...dw..i got it installed...i m just selecting the packages rite now...09:38
surgydefiant: terminal*09:38
SolidSourcecpk1: ia32-sun-java5-bin crashed adept while attempting to install...and now can't get it remove since its not needed09:38
underdog5004defiant, is there an option to see a terminal when removing/installing?09:38
ubuntu_Hi guys. I'm having trouble with qtparted.09:38
ubuntu_It won't let me resize an ntfs partition09:38
defiantI am in terminal09:38
cpk1yeah, its probably hanging09:39
underdog5004ubuntu_, why not? what error?09:39
SkullerREGISTER chochu198909:39
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cpk1it needs to finish the install09:39
Skullerumm...why isnt dis fing workin?...da register fing?09:39
underdog5004defiant, weird...you should see a license when installing...don't know about removing...09:39
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SkullerREGISTER kloo987609:39
underdog5004Skuller, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Skuller09:39
cpk1Skuller: you need to msg nickserv09:39
SolidSourcecpk1: you don't think it will conflict with the java we just got installed09:39
Skuller /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Skuller09:40
cpk1SolidSource: it needs to finish the previous installation first09:40
Skullerumm...dint work09:40
JucatoSkuller: don't put a space before the '/'09:40
Skulleryea..soz...got that09:40
ubuntu_the error is: "Opening /dev/sda2 as NTFS failed: Operation not supported"09:40
SolidSourcedefiant: ok, lets see if cpk1 is right09:40
SkullerREGISTER <chochu1989>09:40
SolidSourcedefiant: "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre"09:40
SkullerREGISTER <kloo9876>09:41
Skullerdamn dis fing...now what m i doing rong?09:41
ubuntu_any ideas?09:41
cpk1no, dpkg --configure -a09:41
SolidSourcecpk1: tried that09:41
underdog5004Skuller, you're acting like a moron who is transliterating his inability to speak.09:41
SolidSourcecpk1: still have the problem09:41
surgy!ntfs | ubuntu09:41
ubotuubuntu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:41
Skullerunderdog5004: lol...yea man...blve me i am one when it comes to this09:41
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cpk1hmm maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a09:42
underdog5004Skuller, lol, not that you _are_ a moron...lol, I don't mean you are at all!09:42
ubuntu_thanks surgy, but that doesn't help.09:42
LynoureSkuller: you are not adding /msg nickserver  to the beginning, I guess09:42
SolidSourcedefiant: does "dpkg --configure -a" come up with any errors?09:42
ubuntu_oh wait... write access.09:42
defiantthis is doing something09:42
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ubuntu_that includes shrinking, eh?09:42
cpk1dpkg needs sudo btw09:42
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SolidSourcecpk1: defiant: what is that that little sudo seems so hard to remember to add in when instructing....09:43
surgyubuntu: yes :)09:43
defiantI am putting sudo in front09:44
SolidSourcedefiant: ok09:44
defiantSetting up sun-java5-bin (1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) ...09:45
ubuntu_ah sorry, an annoying guy came and attacked my keyboard.09:45
mike__Nvidia-glx installed ,,impressed09:45
SolidSourcedefiant: alright....we in good shape then09:45
ubuntu_anyway.. so that page tells me how to shrink ntfs partitions with a live cd kubuntu 6.10?09:45
oFF-beAtpls help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6194/09:45
SolidSourcemike__: in feisty: that shouldn't have any problems installing09:45
cpk1like I said...09:45
SolidSourcedefiant: ok now remove firefox09:46
surgyunderdog5004: by the way to switch between x instances its cntrl + alt + F7-F1209:46
underdog5004ah, nice09:46
JucatooFF-beAt: you have autoconf and automake installed?09:46
mike__SolidSource: very easy,,painless,This rellease of kubuntu is the only one i have liked thus far09:46
SolidSourcecpk1: well I said to do that before...might have missed that line though09:46
Jucatosurgy: minus Ctrl+Alt+F809:46
oFF-beAtJucato, yes i have... the paste bin also shows that...09:46
SolidSourcedefiant: ok, now you got 2 options09:46
surgyjucato: whats F8 do?09:47
Jucatosurgy: it's used by USplash (Ubuntu bootsplash)09:47
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SolidSourcedefiant: either install firefox through adept/apt-get or get swiftfox (only difference is swiftfox is designed to your system architecture)09:47
Jucatosurgy: so you basically only have F7, F9-F1209:47
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surgyjucato: any differences between them?09:47
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Jucatosurgy: what do you mean?09:48
Defiantwhat do I do now09:48
surgyjucato: they arnt like "run level 1" "run level 2" bs?09:48
Jucatosurgy: nope09:48
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surgyjucato so all are fresh instances?09:48
SolidSourceDefiant: need to know if you want the actual firefox or swiftfox?09:48
Defiantthe actual firefox09:49
Jucatosurgy: you have to manually start them if you need/want to use them.09:49
SolidSourceDefiant: ok, just reinstall using "sudo apt-get install firefox"09:49
surgyjucato: so F10 by itself wont do it?09:49
SolidSourceDefiant: this should hopefully reset things09:49
Jucatosurgy: nope. it will just give you a blank screen w/ a blinking cursor. switching to it won't start a new X session09:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:50
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...09:50
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SolidSourceDefiant: ok go back to java.com and test it again09:50
Defiantbut it is the 64bit firefox09:50
surgyjucato: then how do i start a new X session that i can switch to?09:50
Defiantnot the 32bit09:50
Skulleri get this error many times in synaptic.....The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 033431536A42379109:50
Jucatosurgy: you can use the "Start New Session" in the K Menu09:50
SolidSourceDefiant: ok there is no 64bit firefox09:51
surgyjucato: but i need a keyboard macro in order to switch out of my game and back to my server konsole09:51
Defiantwell there is a 32bit one that I know of and then one that is not 32bit that is all I know, sorry09:52
Defiantthat is y I said 64bt09:52
Jucatosurgy: once you start a new X session (or a new terminal session, for that matter), you can Ctrl+Alt+Fn to switch to those sessions, if that's what you were after09:52
SolidSourceDefiant: well then....09:52
surgyjucato: i will be able to switch then by pressing cntrl + alt + F10?09:53
Jucatosurgy: *if* a new X session is started there already09:53
Skullercan any1 help me with this error message in synaptic?09:53
SkullerThe following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 033431536A42379109:53
surgyjucato: ok kewl09:53
SolidSourceDefiant: ok go into konqueror and to "/usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/plugins"09:53
SolidSourceDefiant: should see a file named "libjavaplugin_oji.so"09:54
Defiantit is there09:55
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SolidSourceDefiant: ok then...screw installing firefox through adept/apt-get09:55
Skullerhow do i start up the synaptic installer....not the package manager?09:55
larrythecowDoes anyone here know about shrinking ntfs?09:55
SolidSourceDefiant: get swiftfox09:56
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DefiantI have a bunch of passes and bookmarks saved in firefox though09:56
SolidSourceDefiant: remove firefox again...its not looking in the right places for plugins09:56
Defiantwill that matter09:56
SolidSourceDefiant: there is absolutely no difference betweeen firefox and swiftfox...swiftfox is just optimized for specific archs09:57
Defiantthat file disappeared too09:57
SkullerSolidSource: can you tell me how to startup synaptic installer and not package manager?09:57
SolidSourceDefiant: go to http://getswiftfox.com/debian.htm and downoad your specific processor09:58
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SolidSourceSkuller: you installed synaptic through adept/apt-get?09:58
SkullerSolidSource: yea....i can see the synaptic package manager in my system...09:58
SkullerSolidSource: but i want the simpler version...the one wich u get if u click add/remove in ubuntu09:59
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter09:59
DefiantI don't know what is wrong but it keeps opening in kate09:59
SolidSourceSkuller: umm...thats add/remove here to09:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about diskmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:59
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse09:59
SolidSourceDefiant: you have to right+click and save-as09:59
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Defiantok done10:00
SkullerSolidSource: if i click add/remove here then it opens up adept installer.....but i want to use the synaptic one...not the synaptic package manager tho10:00
SolidSourceSkuller: oh....well that doesn't get installed on here cause this ain't ubuntu10:00
SkullerSolidSource: does this mean i cant use it at all in kubun?10:01
SolidSourceSkuller: adept is the main install program10:01
DefiantI do not understand I follow the instructions on the site and it still errors10:01
eh-ef-kayso i was prompted to update xorg/kernel from 2.6.17-10 to 2.6.17-11 and apon this seems somewhere it lost my xorg.conf is this an isolated issue "seeing as i always keep backups of xorg.conf" or is it a real issue?10:01
Defiantsudo dpkg --install swiftfox_2.0.0.1-1_athlon64.deb10:01
Defiantdid not work10:01
SolidSourceDefiant: ok right click the file >> kubuntu package menu >> install10:02
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SkullerSolidSource: ohh...well synaptics package manager is quite complicated for me...so i'll just use adept installer then....thnx fer da help10:02
SolidSourceSkuller: never used ubuntu itself....never ever liked gnome10:02
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SolidSourceDefiant: ok, is that file back in /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/plugins?10:03
pounceSolidSource: Kubuntu FTW :)10:03
Defiantit says it does not exist10:03
oFF-beAtpls help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6194/10:03
SolidSourceDefiant: give java another test10:04
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SkullerSolidSource: ohh...thas arrite man...thnx10:04
SolidSourceDefiant: if not working, then all we do is go back to how we initially installed java itself10:04
SkullerSolidSource: another very important thing to clarify man...10:04
Defiantnope not working10:04
SolidSourceSkuller: if you want that installer...you could just install ubuntu and then KDE next to gnome10:05
SolidSourceDefiant: alright, just means need to recreate it10:05
nitram_mluvi tu nekdo cesky??10:05
SkullerSolidSource: my mum loves 'spider solitaire' and 'freecell' in windows....is there a substitute for them in kubun?10:05
SkullerSolidSource: no thas arrite man...i'll jus use adept then10:05
Defiantdo I need to remove it then install it again?10:06
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SolidSourceDefiant: no10:06
mike__Install ubuntu ,,then 'apt-get install kde'10:06
SolidSourceSkuller: they might be in the game package10:06
nitram_jak tak koukam, tak asi nikdo10:07
SkullerSolidSource: ok...i'll chek...thnx10:07
SolidSourceSkuller: I know solitar is..but spider solitar not sure10:07
SolidSourcewow...my "i" key not want to work there10:07
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SolidSourceDefiant: getting it?10:08
SkullerSolidSource: ..hm..i dint manage to find either10:08
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Defianti don't know what to do10:08
SolidSourceSkuller: in adept type solatair10:08
SolidSourceskuller and if I could spell10:08
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SolidSourceDefiant: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6195/10:10
SkullerSolidSource: no...no results turned up for solitaire...and just after showing me the "No Results" screen...adept installer decided to crash....any ideas?10:10
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SolidSourceSkuller: lol no, no ideas...just try and reopen the thing10:11
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SolidSourceDefiant: let me know when done with java10:12
SolidSourcealright file back?10:14
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morghanphoenixDoes edgy come with XGL & Beryl, or at least have them in the repos?10:15
Defiantstill no go10:15
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DefiantIt still does not work10:15
SolidSourcemorgphanphoenix: they are in repos...though they are not suggested for use10:15
SolidSourcedefiant holy hell10:15
DefiantI do not know why10:16
Defiantbut it is not working10:16
morghanphoenixHmm, maybe I should switch to gentoo instead, staying the frell away from fedora, redhat and suse though.10:16
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SolidSourceDefiant: lets try something crazy10:18
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SolidSourceSkuller: if you need w32codecs ....its not in repos10:18
eh-ef-kayi'd asume no one can answer my question :!10:18
SolidSourceDefiant: though it consists of me sending you a copy of my java link file10:19
SolidSourceDefiant: oh wait10:19
SkullerSolidSource: i just need a way to play my mp3, wma, wmv and DivX.....simple way?10:19
SolidSourceSkuller: you'll need w32codecs then10:20
SkullerSolidSource: and how do i get them?10:20
SolidSourceDefiant: in konsole10:20
SolidSourceDefiant: cd /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/plugins10:21
SolidSourceDefiant: is there a file on your desktop called "libjavaplugin_oji.so"?10:22
SolidSourceSkuller: http://www.debianadmin.com/install-libdvdcss-and-w32-video-codecs-in-debian-and-ubuntu.html10:22
Defiantand there is no moilla-firefox directory either10:22
SolidSourceDefiant: theres no: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/plugins10:23
SolidSourcehow about /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins10:24
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SolidSourcenot possible...10:26
Defiantit is not there10:27
SolidSourcethe file or folder?10:27
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Defiantthe mozilla-firefox is not there10:27
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DefiantI have mozilla-thunderbird and that is all10:28
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SolidSourceand you installed swiftfox10:28
SkullerSolidSource: thank you very much...i will get on it as soon as my adept is done....10:28
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SolidSourcetheres something wrong...cause without those folders...I don't know where to put the file10:29
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SolidSourceDefiant: how did you install kubuntu?10:30
Defiantfirefox was not installed so that folder was not there10:31
DefiantI just reinstalled firefox and the folder is there now10:31
SolidSourcewhen installing swiftfox...it should have created those folders10:32
Defianti don't know why it did not10:32
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SolidSourceDefiant: well I'm completely stumped...if that folder and the file "libjavaplugin_oji.so" are there when you install firefox in adept...then java should work10:34
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SolidSourceDefiant: did you install off the alternative CD?10:34
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DefiantI burned a cd10:35
Defiantthe full 600 some odd megs10:35
SolidSourceDefiant: yes, but which...the actual install CD or the alternative CD10:35
SolidSourceok the actual one10:35
SolidSourcewell then 1. firefox should not have been installed during system install10:36
Defiantthat file is not in the right directory10:36
Defiantfire fox is in mozilla-firefox10:36
Defiantthat file is in lib6410:36
Defiantthen firefox10:36
SolidSourceok...copy that file to those various folders10:36
SolidSourceyou'll need to do kdesu konqueror to do so10:37
SolidSourcedefiant easy way = alt+F210:37
Defiantdude it is in both10:37
Defiantjava plugin is there for Konqueror but not for for ff or swift fox10:38
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SolidSourcewhat? you saying java works in konqueror?10:39
adydasam i likely to hit issues by putting this into my fstab10:39
adydas/exthdd/store  /store          cifs   0        010:39
staar2where i get network drivers for asus m2n10:40
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Defiantyes it does work10:40
staar2windows one10:40
Defiantin Konqueror10:40
SolidSourceDefiant: if so it don't matter, we working on getting it to work in firefox...and if "libjavaplugin_oji.so" isn't in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins and its sister folders10:41
Defiantit is10:41
Defiantand it still does not work10:41
cpk1you know there is a wiki page on getting java to work?10:41
SolidSourceyeah...thats what we followed10:41
cpk1what arch is this?10:42
SolidSourceDefiant: do "uname -r" and tell us what it says10:42
SolidSourceDefiant: in konsole10:42
cpk1pretty easy to know if you have 32 bit or 64 bit proc10:42
DefiantI have a 64bit processor10:43
SolidSourcewell thats correct10:43
SolidSourcecpk1 we having a problem with firefox not wanting to access the java plugin10:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kaolo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:43
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adydasok, if i put //exthdd/store  /store          cifs   0        0 into fstab it auto detects the network drive and loads it but comes up with a box for a password click ok with nothing in it and it still loads, So how do i get fstab not to ask for that password?10:43
cpk1you installed it with sun-java5-plugin?10:43
SolidSourceit should be installed10:44
cpk1did you install sun-java5-plugin?10:45
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DefiantI can't get it installed10:45
SolidSourcethats the file we downloaded from java.com10:46
Defiantoh ok10:46
cpk1why didnt you use the package?10:46
cpk1it's there for a reason10:47
SolidSourcebecause it wasn't working10:47
cpk1i dont see why it wouldnt work10:48
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Defiantme neither10:48
DefiantI am lost10:48
Defiantall of this to get ff with flash wokring10:49
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Defiantand java10:49
Defiantwhat if I give one of u remote access...lol10:49
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Defianti am tired it is almost 5am here10:49
cpk1you should have used the package10:49
cpk1there is no reason why that shouldnt work10:49
DefiantI do not know what you mean10:49
DefiantI downloaded something tried it and it did not work10:50
ubotusun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB10:50
cpk1thats what i mean, thats the java plugin10:50
SolidSourcecpk1 ...there is no sun-java5-plugin in the repos for starters...10:50
cpk1is there a reason you needed se 6?10:50
SolidSourcenot using 6.010:50
DefiantI just need javaand flash to work in firefox that is all I know10:51
SolidSourcejre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin is the file we used to install10:51
cpk1SolidSource: ... so your telling me its not in multiverse like the bot says?10:51
SolidSourcecpk1: I have multiverse...and I just searched for it...its not there10:51
Defianti just tried sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin an it says it is not there10:51
cpk1Defiant: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list10:52
cpk1you guys are making this much much much harder than it is10:53
DefiantI ahve tried about four tuts and none of them worked10:53
SolidSourcecpk1: see multiverse is there....sun-java5-plugin doesn't exist10:55
cpk1Defiant: and sudo aptitude update doesnt give any errors?10:55
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cpk1other than wine10:55
Defiantyea it givesa 40410:56
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cpk1SolidSource: it does exist http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/sun-java5-plugin10:56
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cpk1Defiant: which repo gives a 404?10:57
SolidSourcemine looks almost exactly like his and I get no errors at all10:57
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DefiantFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)10:57
cpk1thats normal, are you running 64bit?10:57
SolidSourcecpk1: just cause that page exists...doesn't mean the file exists10:58
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cpk1SolidSource: feel free to download using the link at the bottom10:58
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cpk1however you guys didnt tell me that this was 64bit10:59
gokulahi, one question about xgl and beryl, which libGL.so.1 should be used, the fglrx or the mesa one?10:59
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SolidSourcecpk1: LOL it was one of the first things we said when you jumped back in10:59
orient2000Some repositories are down for some reason. I could not get GAIM for example.10:59
cpk1having a 64bit and running in a 64bit enviroment are different11:00
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SolidSourcecpk1: yes I know...I have 64bit11:00
DefiantI really need to get to bed11:00
cpk1Defiant: do you already have 32bit firefox installed?11:00
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vegasmcpcwhat's up guys11:01
SolidSourcecpk1: he has firefox installed through adept and we even tried swiftfox11:01
gokulahi, one question about xgl and beryl, which libGL.so.1 should be used, the fglrx or the mesa one?, deas anybody know it?11:01
vegasmcpci just installed kubuntu on my media center pc and now whenever i have the volume on at all my left channel has a really high pitched squealing noise coming through it11:02
cpk1Defiant: i dont have 64bit so I dont have much expierence but http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537 is probably your best bet since most of it is automated11:02
SolidSourcethose are the same instructions we followed11:02
DefiantI tried that too11:02
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cpk1Defiant: and what went wrong?11:03
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vegasmcpcany clue on the sound issue anybody?11:04
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Defiantthe whole thing, the automated does not work11:04
Defiantand the other files and commands give me errors11:04
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ubotuPlease elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)11:04
cpk1it has a manual how-to as well11:05
vegasmcpccpk1: , was that directed at me?11:05
cpk1vegasmcpc: no =)11:05
SolidSourcecpk1: we followed those instructions --just the same as I did on my system and it works--- and it didn't work on his11:05
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orient2000vegasmcpc: check the wires or maybe the driver is asymetric :)11:06
cpk1then why doesnt he have 32bit ff if he was following the instructions?11:06
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cpk1vegasmcpc: what are you using to output the audio?11:06
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vegasmcpci was using amarok, just standard onboard audio11:07
tillhi guys, just a short question, what kind of ftp-client are you using? I currently use gFTP, but it's kinda uncomfortable...11:07
cpk1Defiant: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32asound2 lib32ncurses5 ia32-libs-sdl ia32-libs-gtk gsfonts gsfonts-x11 linux32 did that step fail? if you managed to download all those then where did you start running into problems?11:07
vegasmcpcusing a set of headphones that are known to be good11:07
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ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash11:09
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports11:09
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cpk1vegasmcpc: normally I would say check the alsamixer settings but it doesnt sound like something that alsamixer would cause...11:09
SolidSourcecpk1: adept installs the 32bit version...atleast according to my adept and he has the same sources.list11:09
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vegasmcpcalright, noob question, but how do i install something downloaded in .tar.gz11:12
vegasmcpcnamely firefox11:12
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SolidSourcecpk1: any more thoughts? cause it makes no sense why it doesn't work11:13
cpk1vegasmcpc: you need to get build-essential and then unpack it and then compile, or since firefox is in the repos you can just use adept/apt to install it11:13
vegasmcpcwhere do i go for build-essential?11:13
dettoaltrimenti_open Adept Manager, and type in build-essential11:14
cpk1vegasmcpc: the same place you can get firefox =) new to ubuntu?11:14
vegasmcpccpk1: yes11:14
vegasmcpccpk1: about a day into it11:14
cpk1vegasmcpc: most common apps you want you can have automagically installed for you11:14
cpk1!repos | vegasmcpc11:15
ubotuvegasmcpc: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:15
cpk1that might help explain it to you better11:15
SolidSourceDefiant: sorry we couldn't get this to work....but there must be something different about your system...cause if it installed firefox on its own and such, theres something weird going on11:15
atidemvegasmcpc: where did you download firefox? mozilla's server?11:15
DefiantI don't know, one of the tuts I read even said that Firefox is installed by default11:16
vegasmcpcthanks a lot for the help, guys11:16
cpk1Defiant: i still think you should read that forum post and follow it to the tee (install 32bit ff like it says and ia32-lib-firefox-amd64)11:16
DefiantI have tried all tuts I can find11:16
atidemvegasmcpc: just untar and decompress file11:16
SolidSourceDefiant: well...its not installed by default11:16
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DefiantIt was11:16
DefiantI did not install it11:16
Defiantit was hre11:17
cpk1vegasmcpc: keep in mind for a new user compiling might be very confusing so always try to get a .deb first11:17
dettoaltrimenti_vegasmcpc: if you're running kubuntu, under the k-menu go to system- adept manager, and you can get almost any program through that11:17
SolidSourcedpkc defiant: well again, don't know how11:17
vegasmcpcdettoaltrimenti_: i looked for firefox in there11:17
cpk1Defiant: I am fairly certain that 64bit comes with 64bit ff11:18
dettoaltrimenti_it's there11:18
vegasmcpcthere were a bunch of language things, but i didn't see the whole thing11:18
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins11:18
DefiantYes it did that is what I have been saying11:18
cpk1Defiant: so have you installed firefox32 and ia32-lib-firefox-amd64?11:19
Defiantand it still does not work11:19
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SolidSourcevegasmcpc: you don't need build-essential for the firefox.tar.gz it has a shell script in it to install by11:19
dettoaltrimenti_vegasmcpc: if it doesn't show up, in Adept go to adept->manage repositories.. and right click and "enable" the two lines that say Universe Multiverse, then press apply, then press Fetch Updates, and it should show up11:19
cpk1Defiant: ok i'm confused at what point did that forum post how-to fail you?11:20
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vegasmcpcok, big problem11:20
vegasmcpci tried installing firefox with adept11:20
vegasmcpcadept locked up, i forget what the error said11:20
vegasmcpcnow trying to restart adept i get this error11:21
vegasmcpcThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.11:21
vegasmcpcif i click ok it simply stops adept11:21
dettoaltrimenti_open up the terminal and type "apt-get update"11:21
SolidSourcecpk1: again, we even tried swiftfox...yet it don't work in that either11:21
SolidSourcedon't forget the sudo11:21
seven11vegasmcpc: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a11:22
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cpk1SolidSource: again "didnt work" is way to vague and I also have no clue if there were any problems along the way or what steps you guys took11:22
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dettoaltrimenti_yeah vegasmcpc sorry type "sudo apt-get update" and see if that fixes the problem11:22
SolidSourcecpk1: ok first he tried installing ia32-java package...it crashed adept11:22
vegasmcpcThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.11:23
SolidSourcecpk1: tried running it in konsole, still no luck11:23
seven11vegasmcpc: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  in terminal11:23
vegasmcpc: Type 'build-essential' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list11:23
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SolidSourcecpk1: and yes we did dpkg --configure -a11:23
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SolidSourcecpk1: then continued on to follow the how-to11:24
SolidSourcecpk1: when that failed we tried other things11:25
cpk1did you ever get rid of sun's java?11:25
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SolidSourceia32 should have been uninstalled yes11:25
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto11:25
cpk1vegasmcpc: yeah you will want to delete that line =P11:25
SolidSourceia32 for java****11:25
vegasmcpccpk1: how?11:26
cpk1vegasmcpc: didnt you add it in?11:26
vegasmcpcyea, in adept11:26
vegasmcpccan't get into adept11:26
dettoaltrimenti_vegasmcpc: did you do what seven11 said? type "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" in the terminal?11:27
cpk1vegasmcpc: so in konsole do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:27
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cpk1or do what dettoaltrimenti_ said ^^11:27
vegasmcpcok, adept works again11:28
SolidSourcecpk1: so....?11:28
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vegasmcpcthanks guys...sorry i'm a noob, i'm sure more stupid questions will be coming11:29
dettoaltrimenti_so vegasmcpc: click on Fetch Updates, then search for firefox and you should find it11:29
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vegasmcpcdettoaltrimenti_: got firefox working now11:29
dettoaltrimenti_vegasmcpc: awesome! I would use adept to get programs as often as possible, it's way easier than the other way11:29
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vegasmcpcdettoaltrimenti_: will do11:30
SolidSourcedefiant: do "sudo apt-get remove --purge ia32-sun-java5-bin" to ensure its gone11:30
cpk1I have a strong distrust of adept =P11:30
vegasmcpcdettoaltrimenti_: this is only a media center pc...all that it needs to do is run a vnc server, run mplayer, run amarok, and have my huge raid5 array11:30
cpk1its failed many an install for me11:30
vegasmcpclol...i'll be back for help when it comes to setting up the raid5 array11:30
dettoaltrimenti_ah gotcha11:31
vegasmcpcout of curiosity, is there a software raid option for linux?11:31
vegasmcpcbecause i would much rather do that in case my motherboard dies after the thing is no longer being manufactured11:31
mosulHi. I updated the kubuntu but now when is starting is stop whith a single user screen as root. Then I press 'exit' and it continues with normal loading...11:31
vegasmcpci know that software raid makes a performance hit, but it's just a fileserver and media player11:31
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dettoaltrimenti_vegasmcpc yeah just go into adept and type raid11:32
mosul... to grafical login. Any idea what's going on?11:32
vegasmcpci'm not looking forward to seeing how long this thing is going to take to format all of that11:32
vegasmcpc3.75tb usable raid5 arrays are nice, except when formatting them11:32
vegasmcpcand syncing them11:32
vegasmcpcthen i get the fun of moving 1.8tb of stuff over to it across 100mbps ethernet11:33
cpk1get gigabit nics they are only $1011:34
vegasmcpcit's 4am11:34
vegasmcpci'm probably going to get one as soon as best buy opens11:34
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vegasmcpcbut for right now i might as well get a start11:34
cpk1well you could just do it tomorrow =)11:34
vegasmcpci'm awake, i'm excited to finally have this thing running linux, i wanna work on it now11:34
cpk1does cat 5 cut it for gigabit connections?11:34
vegasmcpcyes, cpk111:35
vegasmcpccat5e does11:35
vegasmcpcidk about regular cat511:35
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vegasmcpchi beran11:35
beranhi vegasmcpc11:35
beranIt is my first time here...11:36
vegasmcpci really need to figure out what is up with this sound driver11:36
cntb\o where is save sessions in systemsettings11:36
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staar2http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2168648#post2168648 -- here typed my problem11:36
vegasmcpcberan: welcome to the club11:36
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berando you speak French11:37
lucianocan anyone point me to a tutorial to get japanese input working on a english kubuntu?11:37
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:37
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gigionecould any1 tell how to install me ati radeon 9600 in kubuntu 6.10 x86_64?11:37
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cpk1luciano: change the keyboard type?11:37
vegasmcpcwill i have much luck with drivers from asus?11:38
True_FriendI can not build collection through amaroK i upgraded my system today to latest linux restricted modules after that amarok is giving this error11:38
True_FriendSorry, the Collection Scan was aborted, since too many problems were encountered.11:38
True_FriendAdvice: A common source for this problem is a broken 'TagLib' package on your computer. Replacing this package may help fixing the issue.11:38
True_FriendThe following files caused problems:11:38
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gigionecould any1 tell how to install my ati radeon 9600 in kubuntu 6.10 x86_64?11:38
lucianonot sure what you mean... im using a us keyboard, if that helps11:38
lucianoin windows i am able to change it...11:39
dettoaltrimenti_staar2: that's no problem, totally normal. Is your computer going slow?11:39
cpk1True_Friend: try "sudo aptitude reinstall libid3tag0"11:39
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cpk1True_Friend: and "sudo aptitude reinstall libtag1c2a"11:40
gigionecould any1 tell how to install drivers for my ati radeon 9600 in kubuntu 6.10 x86_64?11:41
True_Friendok i try11:41
cpk1!ati | gigione11:41
ubotugigione: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:41
True_Friendhad anyone used latest amarok (on edgy i m)11:41
True_Friendis it stable?11:41
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shinigaminvidia use glx or aiglx for beryl?11:41
dettoaltrimenti_True_Friend: it's stable on edgy11:41
shinigami!ati > gigione11:41
cpk1True_Friend: I am using 1.4.4 with no problems11:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:42
shinigamigigione: follow tat link11:42
dettoaltrimenti_True_Friend: are you sharing your files via samba/windows?11:43
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True_Friendamarok was just fine11:44
True_Friendbut today latest linux restricted moduels etc i installed and it is creating problem11:44
vegasmcpcok, there are linux drivers on asus' website for my sound card, i downloaded them....now what?11:44
cpk1True_Friend: you try reinstalling those 2 packages yet?11:44
flippyhi evry111:44
True_Friendwhat two packages?11:44
cpk1[02:40:27]  <cpk1> True_Friend: try "sudo aptitude reinstall libid3tag0" [02:41:05]  <cpk1> True_Friend: and "sudo aptitude reinstall libtag1c2a"11:45
dettoaltrimenti_vegasmcpc what kind of sound card do you have11:45
flippycan someone walk me thru how burn an iso file?11:45
True_Friendi tried first one11:45
True_Friendit was not install11:45
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True_Friendbut did not worked11:45
True_Friendnow i try 2nd one also11:45
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ninHerhi all11:45
premier_does anyone here know anything about just in time compilers for java?11:45
cpk1flippy: do you have k3b?11:46
premier_or java optimization in general?11:46
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vegasmcpc ADI AD1986A Linux Driver for Linux.11:46
vegasmcpcoops, didn't mean to paste all of that, but i have an adi ad1986a11:46
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vegasmcpcsome onboard p.o.s. i guess11:46
cpk1flippy: easiest way is to right click it go to actions then burn with k3b11:47
vegasmcpcbut my problem is that whenever any sound plays there's a really high pitch squeal coming through11:47
vegasmcpcand one of you guys recommended to update drivers11:47
vegasmcpcwhich makes sense11:47
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flippyi need to do an md5sum11:48
flippynew to linux...11:49
cpk1flippy: what are you burning?11:49
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phretorhi there11:50
flippyxandros professional desktop11:50
dettoaltrimenti_vegasmcpc: go into adept and make sure you have alsa-base installed, then click Full Upgrade then Apply Changes11:50
cpk1flippy: ok, then you might want to do an md5 checksum to make sure it downloaded correctly11:51
phretor(I've just switched from Debian to Ubuntu, actually Kubuntu, and I'm quite happy) Why does my distro runs fsck at *every* boot?11:51
flippyyes ...that is my first problem11:51
flippyhow to do that11:52
cpk1flippy: you need to get the number from where you downloaded i11:52
flippyhave that11:52
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vegasmcpcok, thanks dettoaltrimenti_11:52
flippyfrom xandros ,. com11:52
typecastphretor: does it find problems when doing fsck?11:52
vegasmcpccan't at the moment though, adept is updating11:52
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phretortypecast: yes11:52
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phretortypecast: are they logged somewhere?11:53
cpk1flippy: ok then run md5sum nameofthe.iso and compare the number it gives you to the number xandros gave you, they should be the same11:53
typecastphretor: no, i don't think so11:53
typecastphretor: maybe in /var/log/messages. but i don't think so11:53
vegasmcpcdettoaltrimenti_: it won't let me click full upgrade11:53
phretortypecast: so what to to? Re-run it again by CL?11:53
maxwelho low para todos11:53
flippyit says to... Open a console window.11:53
cpk1phretor: you arent worried that fsck is finding errors at every boot?11:54
typecastphretor: you might want to boot into single user mode and rerun fsck11:54
typecastphretor: what is CL?11:54
flippyType md5sum filename, where filename is the name of the file to check. File names are case-sensitive in Linux.11:54
cpk1flippy: yeah, open up konsole and do that11:54
vegasmcpcdettoaltrimenti_: i just had adept run like 120 updates, so that might be why11:54
phretortypecast: sorry, CL = Command Line :11:54
phretorcpk1: yes, I am worried11:54
True_Friendcpk1: same problem i reinstalled both packages but invain11:54
True_Friendany ideas?11:54
cpk1phretor: a great tool is SMART, its a hdd diagnostic tool11:55
dettoaltrimenti_vegasmcpc: then you have no upgradable packages available. If ALSA is installed, it's the latest release11:55
typecastphretor: yes, but you have to boot into singe user mode11:55
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typecastphretor: there should be an entry in grub that should do that11:55
phretortypecast: "recovery mode"?11:55
typecastphretor: yes11:56
flippyreally not faliar with using console yet11:56
vegasmcpcdettoaltrimenti_: any suggestions on my sound card?11:56
cpk1flippy: where is the iso located?11:56
phretoras a side note, I'm quite annoyed by the huge amount of modules that udev loads at boot (modules such as the wifi-driver that I really do not need anytime since it consumes power)11:56
flippyin a zip file on my desktop11:56
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cpk1flippy: ok so do md5sum Desktop/nameofthe.zip11:57
cpk1from inside konsole11:57
typecastphretor: you can block the modules you don't need via /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist11:58
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cpk1flippy: oh then it would be md5sum Desktop/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.iso11:58
vegasmcpcdettoaltrimenti_: the thing is, i have a sound driver from asus...isn't there a way that i can install it?11:58
vegasmcpcdettoaltrimenti_: what if the alsa driver has some kind of conflict with this particular card?11:59
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vegasmcpcalso, how do i install mplayer?  i don't see it in adept11:59
dettoaltrimenti_vegasmcpc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179322 the solution is near the bottom of the page11:59
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile11:59
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.11:59
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phretortypecast: I'd need to umount / before but it is currently busy - any idea?12:01
stimeycan someone help me migrate my gmail to evolution12:01
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flippy2dffd9fe6173311e857762f3721e398b ok got this number...now i compare to the number they have on website?12:01
typecastphretor: try "mount -o remount,ro /"12:01
cpk1phretor: easiest way to force a fsck is to use tune2fs12:01
cpk1flippy: yes, they should be the same12:01
flippyok brb12:02
typecastphretor: if you did that you can savely perform the fsck12:02
phretorcpk1: I actually dislike to "force" something :)12:02
beranCould you say me how I can install fireFox and verify-it?12:02
typecastphretor: if it still complains perform fsck -f /dev/partition12:02
vegasmcpcdamn...i did not want to see update bios in the necessary steps...i don't even own a floppy drive12:02
vegasmcpci have a drive12:02
vegasmcpcjust no disks12:02
cpk1phretor: well thats what you are doing right now =)12:02
phretorcpk1: :-\12:02
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typecastphretor: but never do a fsck on a partition that it is mounted read-write12:03
cpk1phretor: ext3 usually does a fsck every 30 mounts, use tune2fs to set the mount count to 99, then it will fsck on the next reboot12:03
phretoranyway I'm getting this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=206114512:03
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vegasmcpcthis was one of the steps: -Put "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack" to "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base".12:03
vegasmcpchow would i go about doing that?12:04
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cpk1vegasmcpc: kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base12:05
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dettoaltrimenti_my wireless card, eth1, is showing up in network settings, but I'm unable to enable it. I'm on a HP pavilion dv6000 laptop. Any help?12:06
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: sudo ifup eth1 work?12:06
vegasmcpcso i just add the stuff in the first set of quotes onto the end of the file?12:08
dettoaltrimenti_cpk1 ifup: interface eth1 already configured12:08
phretorI did `mount -o remount,ro /` but it replies me with "mount: / is busy"12:08
cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: iwlist eth1 scan give any results?12:09
cpk1phretor: tune2fs -C 99 is an easy way to do fsck and is safe =)12:09
cpk1phretor: of course you will have to reboot12:10
vegasmcpci got this error when trying to save12:10
vegasmcpcThe document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.12:10
vegasmcpcCheck that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.12:10
phretorcpk1: nice12:10
cpk1vegasmcpc: you did kdesu kate?12:10
phretorcpk1: got it!12:10
dettoaltrimenti_cpk1 no scan results12:10
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: I assume there really is a signal in range? what does lshw say about the ccard?12:11
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vegasmcpcno, i just opened it from the gui because when i tried to kdesu i got this error12:11
vegasmcpcX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16612:11
vegasmcpc  Major opcode:  14412:11
vegasmcpc  Minor opcode:  312:12
vegasmcpc  Resource id:  0x012:12
cpk1it should still open it i think even with that error12:12
dettoaltrimenti_cpk1: yes there is wireless in range. What would the card be under lshw?12:12
vegasmcpcFailed to open device12:12
vegasmcpcX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16612:12
vegasmcpc  Major opcode:  14412:12
vegasmcpc  Minor opcode:  312:12
vegasmcpc  Resource id:  0x012:12
vegasmcpcFailed to open device12:12
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b0rthi there12:12
cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: it will probably be listed under "network"12:12
vegasmcpci got it to work12:12
cpk1vegasmcpc: just use nano then: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base12:12
phretorcpk1: anyway, the system *already* do fsck at *every* boot; unfortunately, the result is always the same "Not automatically fixing this."12:12
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dettoaltrimenti_cpk1: it doesn't show up. There is *-bridge, with the logical name eth0, but no wireless card12:13
b0rti got problems with apt, how may i unblock sources.list to correct the wrong lines?12:13
vegasmcpcactually, cpk1, i just went in through the gui and chose edit as root from the actions menu12:13
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vegasmcpcbrb, gotta reboot12:13
cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: do sudo lshw12:13
cpk1vegasmcpc: why?12:13
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b0rthow can i edit sources.list ?12:14
b0rtany1 could tell me?12:14
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cpk1b0rt: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:14
b0rthuh thanks ^^12:14
dettoaltrimenti_cpk1: same results12:14
cpk1I hate troubleshooting wireless cards ><12:15
b0rtwhats "kdesu" btw cpk112:15
cpk1kde su12:15
Jucato!kdesu | b0rt12:15
ubotub0rt: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo12:15
dettoaltrimenti_b0rt if you want to know what something does, look at the manual. in the terminal, type "man (whatever" like "man kdesu"12:15
b0rtthanks =)12:16
b0rtsorry im so newb12:16
cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: see if eth0 can scan (iwlist scan)12:16
b0rtbut it didnt work12:16
dettoaltrimenti_it's ok... manual reading is one of the major pastimes of linux users12:16
b0rtb0rt@b0rtsh0p:~$ kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:16
b0rtX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16812:16
dettoaltrimenti_cpk1: interface doesn't support scanning for 'lo' and 'eth0', eth1: no scan results12:17
Jucatob0rt: ignore those X Error: BadDevice messages12:17
b0rtok i ignore but still cant edit sources list12:17
cpk1but why doesnt lshw know what it is!12:17
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cpk1b0rt: why not?12:18
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b0rtFailed to open device12:18
b0rtafter that error12:18
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Jucatob0rt: Kate doesn't launch?12:18
dettoaltrimenti_b0rt: it should prompt you fore your password after the errors, then give some more errors then pop up12:18
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b0rtmay I paste 10 lines error?12:18
cpk1b0rt: no, use pastebin12:19
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Jucato!pastebin | b0rt12:19
ubotub0rt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:19
dettoaltrimenti_cpk1: I tried configuring the card using the instructions here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 using ndiswrapper12:19
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: how do you know you needed ndiswrapper? do you already know what kind of card it is?12:19
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flippyexactly what do i need to type in the console to do an md5sum for this file on my desktop?xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.zipr this...12:20
alfatauhello, i installed a fresh kubuntu. i would want my wireless card starts turned off at bootstrap, while now everytime i've to turn it off. what could i do?12:20
vegasmcpcsound driver works!!!!12:20
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dettoaltrimenti_cpk1 I googled 'hp pavilion dv6000 wireless ubuntu' and it seemed like a lot of people had the same problem as me, and this was a solution12:20
vegasmcpcthank you all so much12:20
b0rtcpk1:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6201/12:20
dettoaltrimenti_cpk1 but I can find out the type of card if you need to know12:20
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flippy md5sum Desktop/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.zip12:21
b0rtJucato: any idea why i cant edit the file?12:21
flippy md5sum Desktop/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.zip12:22
cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: that is a pretty old post =P12:22
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flippygot it now12:22
flippyits checking12:22
_Ace2016_Hi all12:22
_Ace2016_anyone know where i can get an ogm video? a video in ogm format of anything12:22
b0rti got an error trying to update, install or remove saying line 42 isnt rite12:22
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_Ace2016_but not porn12:22
Jucatob0rt: not really.. try this. in Konqueror, go to /etc/apt/ then right-click on the sources.list file, select Actions -> Edit as Root12:22
b0rti think i added edgy repository by accident12:22
cpk1_Ace2016_: make one yourself?12:22
_Ace2016_cpk1: how?12:23
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vegasmcpcwhat repository do i need for mplayer?12:23
vegasmcpcit says multiverse repository in the faq12:23
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Jucato_!info mplayer | vegasmcpc12:23
ubotuvegasmcpc: mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB12:23
vegasmcpc!component multiverse12:24
cpk1_Ace2016_: ffmpeg should convert a video you have to ogm12:24
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vegasmcpcdamn didn't work12:24
_Ace2016_cpk1: how?12:24
cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: it would be nice to be certain of what we are dealing with =P12:24
flippyok the num12:25
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_Ace2016_cpk1: know how i can convert an mpeg to ogm?12:25
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:25
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash12:25
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cpk1_Ace2016_: first, do you have ffmpeg?12:26
b0rtJucato_: it w0rked just fine =) thanks12:26
vegasmcpci just need to know how to add the component multiverse12:26
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT12:26
alfatauhello, i installed a fresh kubuntu. i would want my wireless card starts turned off at bootstrap, while now everytime i've to turn it off by pressing the wifi button on my laptop. what could i do?12:26
cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: but i guess we can double check to make sure the drivers installed correctly with ndiswrapper. does ndiswrapper -l show the correct driver?12:27
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dettoaltrimenti_cpk1: no, it says bcmwl5a: invalid driver!12:28
dettoaltrimenti_cpk1: I'm also trying to find the name of the wireless card for you12:28
cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: well that could be the first problem =)12:28
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dettoaltrimenti_cpk1 I still can't find a site saying what the card is, but I've read a lot of posts saying that the dv6000 has a 'broadcom' wireless card12:30
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: there are lots of broadcoms, but we might as well remove the nonworking driver do sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5a12:32
cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: then put all the files from the windows driver .exe into one folder12:32
cpk1or if its just an inf put it into a folder12:32
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dettoaltrimenti_cpk1 it was in lshw, sorry :) *-network DISABLED broadcom corporation- do you need any other info from lshw?12:34
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: product?12:34
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dettoaltrimenti_cpk1: it just says Broadcom Corporation12:35
_Ace2016_cpk1: i did it, using mencoder12:36
dettoaltrimenti_physical id: 0; serial: 00:14a5:cf:71:be cpk112:36
crystufer2000OMFG!!! Beryl is amazing!12:36
vegasmcpci was trying to mount a windows share and i got this error:12:36
vegasmcpc[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab12:36
vegasmcpcmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //,12:36
vegasmcpc       missing codepage or other error12:36
vegasmcpc       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try12:36
vegasmcpc       dmesg | tail  or so12:36
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ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository12:36
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)12:37
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:37
externhow can I set the gamma in xorg.conf file? If I set it through system settings->monitor & display->gamma, then it ruins my xorg.conf file and next time I restart my computer, the monitor doesn't show anything. I've set "gamma 1.17" in the monitor section, but when the kde starts, the monitor still displays it incorrectly, while monitor & display settings show the gamma value as 1.17. If I move the slider back and forth, so it is still 1.17 and12:37
externpush apply, then everything is displayed properly12:37
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b0rthow is supossed to be installed a graphics driver, i see a install.sh in the driver folder...12:39
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externadd execute permission to install.sh and run it12:39
externchmod +x install.sh12:39
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: businfo numbers12:40
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:40
b0rtextern it has x permission12:40
externthen run it12:41
b0rtsorry to be such an idiot... how??12:41
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.12:41
externeither clicck it12:41
externor go to its location in konsole12:41
externand type ./install.sh12:41
andremarte!italia chat12:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about italia chat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:41
b0rtthanks! ^^ (clicking didnt w0rk)12:42
dettoaltrimenti_cpk1: pci@03:00.012:42
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: get this driver http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-45290-1&lc=en&cc=sg&dlc=en&product=3245619&os=228&lang=en12:43
dettoaltrimenti_cpk1: should I unzip it and get certain files?12:44
b0rtextern: it run, then ask, then fails to install : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6203/12:44
cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: once you get it unzip it all into a folder like I_hate_broadcom or something12:44
b0rtno compiler12:44
externtype in konsole sudo apt-get install build-essential12:45
cpk1dettoaltrimenti_: you already removed the old driver right?12:45
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b0rtdamnit it keeps failing on driver install12:47
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:47
noelGreetings folks. Are there any ALSA helpers out there?12:47
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dettoaltrimenticpk1: what was the last thing you said? I have the files on a folder on my desktop now12:48
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b0rtits not ati or nvidia its intel gm91512:49
b0rton laptop12:49
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: did you remove the old driver you tried installing previously?12:49
b0rtcannot compile intel driver http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6205/12:49
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externyou probably need to install kernel headers and kernel sources packages12:50
externfind them with adept12:50
noelI am trying to get ROSEGARDEN up and running. My problem is the soundcard. I need an aLSA driver. Here is the link, but where is the driver-file? http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=C-Media&card=.&chip=CMI8338%2C+CMI8738%2C+CMI8768&module=cmipci12:50
dettoaltrimenticpk1 yes12:50
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: so ndiswrapper -l returns nothing?12:51
dettoaltrimenticpk1 it returns device (14U4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx) should I get rid of that one too?12:52
noelC Media 18738/pci for those interested.12:52
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti: thats the linux driver... do this echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist12:52
b0rtwow how wise u are12:54
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dettoaltrimenticpk1: ok it says 'blacklist bcm43xx'12:55
b0rtextern:  do i have to reb00t for kernels?12:55
b0rti installed latest and keep me saying same thing12:55
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: "cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" to make sure it says bcm43xx is blacklisted then reboot to disable it (that file only affects things at boot)12:56
Linux_Galorenoel: if you have alsa and you do the driver is already there12:56
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dettoaltrimenticpk1: it shows up. Also is i2c_i801- I shouldn't worry about that should I12:57
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: probably not heh12:57
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Linux_Galorenoel: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic/include/config/snd/cmipci12:58
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noelLinux_Galore: ROSEGARDEN says no driver?12:58
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Linux_Galorenoel: who cares the driver is there, check yourself12:59
dettoaltrimenticpk1 ok restarted12:59
Linux_Galorenoel: when is rosegarden complaing ??12:59
noelLinux_Galore: if the driver is there, would you have any suggestions for getting it to be recognised by ROSEGARDEN?12:59
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: ok sudo ndiswrapper - i path/to/file.inf01:00
cpk1ignore that space i put in on accident01:00
b0rtis that what i need? kernel-devel -> This is a dummy package that will install all possible packages required to hack comfortably on the kernel.01:00
Linux_Galorenoel: why does rosegarden need a driver it should just talk to alsa01:00
b0rti guess not01:00
Linux_Galorenoel: alsa manages the drivers01:01
dettoaltrimenticpk1 to bcmwl5.inf?01:01
Linux_Galorenoel: did you compile rosegarden or is it a package01:01
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: is that what you extracted from the link I gave you?01:01
noelLinux_Galore: package01:01
dettoaltrimenticpk1 yeah01:01
cpk1then yes01:02
Linux_Galorenoel: of the ubuntu repo ??01:02
cpk1and then do ndiswrapper -l to make sure it worked01:02
Linux_Galorenoel: ok does your sound work ?01:02
Linux_Galorenoel: then its a settinf problem with rosegarden01:02
noelLinux_Galore: i shall test the sound now, give me 1 minute.01:03
dettoaltrimenticpk1 when I tried to install the driver it said "Driver bcmwl5 is already installed" and it doesn't show up in ndiswrapper -l01:03
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dettoaltrimenticpk1 and now eth1 isn't showing up in network settings :(01:04
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P0x90Hi, there. This is my first try of Kubuntu. It looks kckin' ass !!!01:06
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti: try sudo ndiswrapper -r bcmwl501:06
gansinhohello, does anybody knows if the kubuntu bleeding package has still development packages or just the final releases?01:07
gansinhobleeding edge packages01:08
dettoaltrimenticpk1 ok I removed and reinstalled. Should I try to restart and see if it works now?01:08
noelLinux_Galore: no sound!01:09
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: no need01:09
cpk1but its not done yet01:09
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti: "sudo depmod -a" then when that finishes "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"01:10
Linux_Galorenoel: configure your sound then01:12
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti: once thats done sudo ifdown eth1 (or whatever the interface is called) and then sudo ifup eth101:12
dettoaltrimenticpk1, actually somewhere along the line eth1 disappeared01:13
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti: try wlan001:14
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dettoaltrimentinope cpk1- and it's not showing up in network settings01:14
dettoaltrimentibut it still shows up on lshw01:15
dettoaltrimentinetwork UNCLAIMED01:15
cpk1ndiswrapper -l shows the driver?01:17
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dettoaltrimentibcmwl5: driver installed; device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)01:17
noelLinux_Galore: OK sound is now happening.01:18
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cpk1the bcm43xx didnt get blacklisted01:18
fannagogannahi, wondering if anyone could help me when i install my audio CD01:19
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fannagogannai get the following error when i try to access the drive, "Device doesn't have read permissions for this account. Check the read permissions on the device."01:19
cpk1cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist says what dettoaltrimenti?01:19
dettoaltrimentiat the very bottom it says blacklist bcm43xx (cpk1)01:20
noelLinux_Galore:ROSEGARDEN gives me the following promt on start-up. "Sequencer startup has failed. MIDI subsystem has failed to initialise."01:20
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: the folder with the .inf only has one .inf and .sys right?01:21
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mkay__ hi guys. i installed edgy. my problm is, that my pci and usb dont work. in dapper i have startet with usb=bios pci=bios in the kernel-parameters. how i have to start in edgy?01:21
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dettoaltrimenticpk1 no it actually has a lot of .sys files01:21
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dettoaltrimentishould I take out the .inf and .sys files and just put it on the desktop, and then remove and reinstall the driver?01:21
dettoaltrimenticpk1 but there is only 1 file named bcmwl5.sys01:22
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: yeah just have the .inf and .sys that you are using be in a folder01:22
cpk1and yes remove and reinstall =X01:22
cpk1guess I should of made sure of that01:22
installKubuntuI try to install Kubuntu on my box. I was on Ubuntu just before and I was getting sick of gnome, so I wanted to switch. I installed kubuntu-desktop, but some features didn't work (media manager, etc). So I downloaded a fresh iso of kubuntu-6.1001:23
installKubuntuDid I say Hello ? :D01:23
installKubuntuHello everybody01:23
installKubuntuSo now, my problem is on the mount point selection screen01:23
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installKubuntuI have 1 partition dedicated to the root (/)01:24
installKubuntuand I got a great message : you don't have root filesystem, select one ...01:24
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vegasmcpchey guys, i screwed up my computer01:24
vegasmcpci installed the dmraid drivers, and now when starting up it says can't find raid disks and kicks me to a command prompt01:25
vegasmcpcand...i don't know how to undo what i did01:25
dettoaltrimentiok cpk1 I reinstalled doing what you said, did depmod and modprobe, still doesn't show up under iwconfig01:25
noelHELP anyone please. How do I turn MIDI on? ROSEGARDEN gives me the following promt on start-up. "Sequencer startup has failed. MIDI subsystem has failed to initialise."01:26
cpk1=S hrmmm01:26
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installKubuntutry to install timidity I think01:27
vegasmcpcanybody able to help on the removing a driver issue?01:28
vegasmcpci can't get into kde01:28
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: what is the output of ndiswrapper -l?01:28
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noelinstallKubuntu: what is timidity?01:28
installKubuntunoel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiHardwareSynthesisSetup?highlight=%28midi%29, if your card support hardware midi01:28
installKubuntunoel: and timidity if it doesn't : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo?highlight=%28midi%2901:29
dettoaltrimentisame as it was before cpk1: bcmwl5: driver installed, alternate driver: bcm43xx(which is the one on the blacklist file)01:29
noelinstallKubuntu: thenks I shall have a read :)01:29
installKubuntuI tried the french tutorial and it did work for me to play midi files01:29
installKubuntuI d'ont know if the english one will work, but I think so ;)01:30
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vegasmcpcah fuck it, i haven't done anything much with this one, i'll just reinstall01:30
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti: nothing else?01:31
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dettoaltrimenticpk1 nope01:32
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti: lshw what does it say the id is now?01:33
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installKubuntuNobody has an idea for my bugged install of kubuntu ? :'(01:33
dettoaltrimenticpk1 found the problem I think- when I try modprobe, it says FATAL: Module bcmwl5 not found01:33
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vegasmcpcinstallKubuntu, what's wrong with it?01:34
dettoaltrimenticpk1 the id is still 001:34
vegasmcpci probably won't know, i'm just curious01:34
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: yeah that would be bad =)01:34
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dettoaltrimenticpk1 and also if this helps in /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper I read "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" and that's it01:36
installKubuntuvegasmcpc: At the moutpoint selection screen (step 5/6), it tells me that I didn't select a root filesystem mount point01:36
installKubuntuexcept that I have one01:36
vegasmcpcwait, are you doing an upgrade install?01:37
installKubuntuinstall, short01:37
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: that means it should show up as wlan0 i think01:37
vegasmcpcwhat filesystem did you use?01:37
installKubuntufrom my fresh downloaded kubuntu-6.10 CD01:37
cpk1but wwe are exhausting my knowledge here01:37
installKubuntuyeah : 1337 hour :D01:37
cpk1and I am getting tired =\01:37
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vegasmcpcoh, it's 13:37 there?01:38
vegasmcpcwhere you from, installKubuntu?01:38
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installKubuntuvegasmcpc: It is reiserfs i Think01:38
installKubuntuvegasmcpc: from France01:38
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installKubuntuI'll check01:38
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vegasmcpci'd try reformatting it in ext3 or jfs01:38
installKubuntuvegasmcpc: yes, reiserfs01:39
vegasmcpcthose are the only filesystems that i've had work, and they never gave me problems01:39
vegasmcpcif you don't have anything particularly important on the disk, reformat it in ext3 or jfs01:39
installKubuntuvegasmcpc: :'(, It was working using reiserfs on my ubuntu and debian before :(01:39
installKubuntuI'll try that01:39
gansinhoplease I want to know if the KDE bleeding edge sources are regular sources for KDE or if they have beta packages01:39
vegasmcpci might be totally off, i'm pretty much a noob01:39
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vegasmcpcbut yea, reiser isn't that much of a performance increase, i'd stick with stuff that's known to work with kubuntu01:40
installKubuntuno no, nothing important at all... My old root filesystem completely screwed up ... (I've made a great mistake and began to rm -rf in it ... No more /bin, /dev, etc... LOL01:40
SlimGKTorrent 2.1 only list leechers while seeding a completed torrent, why?01:40
vegasmcpcif you run the kubuntu livecd reiserfs isn't an option...that's a bad sign for using that filesystem01:41
vegasmcpcSlimG...you don't have to connect to the seeders, so ktorrent probably doesn't have you connect01:41
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vegasmcpcno reason for it to look for seeders on a torrent you're seeding01:41
noelinstallKubuntu: how do I download timidity in ubuntu 6.10?01:42
ubotutimidity: Software sound renderer (MIDI sequencer, MOD player). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.13.2-7.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 534 kB, installed size 1716 kB01:42
vegasmcpcah...i was wondering what that was01:42
installKubuntuyou must add the universe repository to your sources.list/adept01:42
vegasmcpcnoel, are you connected to the universe and multiverse?01:42
installKubuntuand then select/install timidity :D01:42
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installKubuntuor maybe timidity++, don't remember the package name01:43
crystufer2000Hey guys, how do I download something on konquerer without it opening in kate?01:43
cpk1right click save as01:43
noelvegasmcpc: according to the repositories I am, but I do not see in in the download manager01:43
vegasmcpci don't really like konqueror01:43
SlimGvegasmcpc: When i have shared my ratio (>1) I need to see that there's other seeders available at the torrent so it won't die when i remove the torrent from seeding01:43
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: sorry but i think this might be beyond my expertise =\01:44
installKubuntuvegasmcpc: that was the reiserfs ! Thanks. How can I report a "bug" ?01:44
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cpk1dettoaltrimenti: might be worth trying a newer ndiswrapper?01:44
vegasmcpcidk that it's necessarily a bug...i think that it's just a lack of support01:44
crystufer2000cpk1: That won't work when it's  php or whatever.01:44
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installKubuntuvegasmcpc: that's why I used " :D01:44
vegasmcpcbut i'm not sure how to...i've only been using this stuff for like 2 days01:44
vegasmcpci know the install process pretty well, seeing as i've screwed up a few times and just said screw it and reinstalled01:45
noelinstallKubuntu: cannot find timidity!01:45
vegasmcpclol...first time i did it i think i misspelled what i wanted for a user name01:45
installKubuntunoel: did you add the universe repository ?01:45
vegasmcpccouldn't get in01:45
dettoaltrimenticpk1, I have the newest but I'm going to uninstall everything and try again fresh, see if the same steps work. Losing eth1 on iwconfig worries me though- I hope I get that back when I uninstall everything01:46
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noelinstallKubuntu: I think i have always had the universe repository.01:46
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: the interface didnt work anyways...01:46
vegasmcpcman, i wish there was support for my newer wireless card in my laptop01:46
dettoaltrimenticpk1 and also can you tell me where modprobe.conf is supposed to be?01:46
vegasmcpcadd multiverse01:46
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installKubuntuvegasmcpc: ROFL .... It is now saying : creation of the reiserfs filesystem for the / mountpoint01:47
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installKubuntuvegasmcpc: I find the whole filesystem partitioning flags is a mess01:47
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vegasmcpcinstallKubuntu...use hd-kill every time you reformat01:47
vegasmcpcgets rid of everything01:48
vegasmcpctakes a few minutes extra, but less bs01:48
gansinhoplease, someon that installed Kubuntu (I used to have ubuntu and installed kubuntu-desktop via apt-get) could say to me if the repo deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main is in the sources, please!01:48
installKubuntuvegasmcpc: In cfdisk, it'll show you that your fs is a reiser one, even if you formatted it as a ext3 using mkfs.ext3 ...01:48
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: hah guess what has been staring me in the face this whole time01:48
cpk1dettoaltrimenti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%2901:48
installKubuntudon't have it on the kubuntu cd01:49
installKubuntubut i'll remember01:49
installKubuntuI think there are too much data duplication for the partitions/fs01:49
installKubuntuAnd they can be totally different01:49
vegasmcpcyea, it's the exact same problem that they have when reformatting for winblows...sometimes you'll end up having like 2 or 3 windows options when you start up01:49
installKubuntuthis is how i screwed my old LVM system ...01:49
vegasmcpcbest to completely fdisk or hd-kill stuff like that01:50
installKubuntuLogical Volum Manager01:50
installKubuntuI got one with 2 partition over 2 disks01:50
vegasmcpcman...i just reinstalled kubuntu, now i get to play with the sound card again01:50
vegasmcpcthat sucked01:50
installKubuntuand the old fs flags was : reiserfs .01:50
installKubuntuSo ubuntu at the install detected those /dev/hd partition as reiserfs fs, and not as part of LVM01:51
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installKubuntuubuntu put them in the /etc/fstab... And at each boot, i got errors while those blocks devices where scanned ... Since they were part of the LVM, some directories pointed to data stored ine the other partition01:52
Hrvojehow can i limit upload bandwith on specific port ?01:52
installKubuntuI didn't verify if those devices were those on the LVM and I did a fsck.reiserfs --rebuild-tree on each ... 40 GB data screwed, yay01:52
installKubuntuHrvoje: With the software you use, if it can do it. Otherwise you may install Quality of Service (QoS) package and maybe recompile your kernel :/01:53
HrvojeinstallKubuntu: can i do it somehow with iptables?01:54
installKubuntuHrvoje: I wanted the same feature, and that what we told me... I looked a little in documentation, and it was huge... So I gave up01:54
installKubuntuHrvoje: maybe with a patch for iptable to support QoS, but not iptables raw01:54
installKubuntuI think01:54
installKubuntuI didn't look for 2 years about this problem01:55
installKubuntuit may have changed :D01:55
dettoaltrimenticpk1 excellent01:55
Hrvojewhy is it so complicated?01:55
Hrvojei only want to limit my outbound trafic on port 5555 to 100KB/s01:55
installKubuntuBecause the kernel and iptables dev didn't think it was a killer feature for everybody01:55
Hrvojeon eth001:55
noelinstallKubuntu: i have added universe, multiverse, and still cannot see "Timidity"?01:55
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installKubuntuHrvoje: I understand you right, i wanted the same01:55
installKubuntunoel : did you make an update ?01:56
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gansinhoinstallKubuntu: please help me, I'm asking here for a long time and I just need a simple info... my english is not very good and I just want to knwo if the  repo deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main has final versions of the packages ( a stable repository for kubuntu) or if it's filled with "beta" packages01:56
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HrvojeinstallKubuntu: i'm using ubuntu as internet gateway, so users kill my connection, so i want to limit global bandwith...01:56
installKubuntugansinho: sorry, i don't know if 'ill help you :/ I really don't know01:56
installKubuntuHrvoje: buy a server with unlimited bandwitdh01:57
installKubuntujust joking ;D01:57
HrvojeinstallKubuntu: XD01:57
ulisesalguien habla espaol??01:57
gansinhoinstallKubuntu: why? I said something wrong?01:57
installKubuntuI got the same problem, i wanted to limit my apache2 server, but ... It was too long to do it. But maybe it is simpler01:57
vegasmcpcanybody in here know how to set up software raid?01:58
installKubuntugansinho: lol no, but i don't know your repository :D01:58
installKubuntugansinho: I use the base ubuntu.com repository01:58
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO01:59
dettoaltrimenticpk1 ok wlan0 is showing up, the card is working! and I set up my pppoeconf for the wireless router... but when I try to connect to the wireless it says 'connection failed.' I'm extremely close. any ideas?01:59
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installKubuntulvm is great \o/01:59
gansinhoinstallKubuntu: and could you check please if this repo is by default in your sources?01:59
installKubuntuI'm still on the live CD lol :01:59
installKubuntui'll check01:59
AlllexHey everyone- can anyone tell me how I can compiler Java on Kubuntu 6.10?02:00
installKubuntuno, i get : archive.ubuntu.com02:00
installKubuntuto compile java ?02:00
installKubuntuwith the javac command02:00
installKubuntuyou can have it with some jdk packages02:00
dettoaltrimentialllex: open adept and type in java compiler02:00
noelinstallKubuntu: System,Administration,Software Sources.02:00
vegasmcpcinstallKubuntu, is lvm what i'm going to want for software raid?02:00
gansinhoinstallKubuntu: thanks!02:01
installKubuntuIt can do it02:01
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noelinstallKubuntu: Now I am using the synaptic package manager02:01
installKubuntuBut i think the soft raid is better for that02:01
dettoaltrimentigcj is a good graphic compiler02:01
installKubuntuok noel02:01
vegasmcpcbasically, i want to make sure that if this motherboard dies after it's out of manufacturing, i want to be able to take the raid5 array out and use it on another mobo02:01
vegasmcpcsoft raid...do i get that through adept?02:01
installKubuntudon't know :D02:02
installKubuntunever used it02:02
vegasmcpcwhat do you use lvm for?02:02
installKubuntuI always raw partition or LVm02:02
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vegasmcpcbrb, switching back to my freshly resurrected linux box02:02
AlllexWhenever I try to "Run as root" It says the password is wrong- even after I do "sudo passwd root"?02:02
installKubuntubut with lvm on 2 disk, you can use the strip mode (one data go one 1 disk, 1 data on another).. So it looks like raid for me02:02
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mart81have we all voted already?02:03
installKubuntuAlllex: sudo su ; passwd02:03
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dettoaltrimentihow can I check if my wlan0 is connected to the router through the terminal?02:03
installKubuntusudo su => you'll log into root mode. Then, as root, you change the root passwd :)02:04
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installKubuntudettoaltrimenti: sudo iwconfig02:04
installKubuntudettoaltrimenti: sudo iwconfig wlan002:04
AlllexAh, I've done that. Now it says "Conversation with su failed"?02:04
installKubuntuand if you see AP : 01:23:...., then you're connected02:04
installKubuntuAlllex: my command was some bad ass one, sorry02:05
installKubuntujuste type sudo su, then in the root prompt, type passwd02:06
Alllex"sudo su" doesn't do anything for me?02:06
installKubuntureally ?02:06
installKubuntuthat's bad :D02:06
paguxI am back on public demand02:06
installKubuntuwhat does it do ?02:06
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AlllexNothing- it just goes blank for a milli-second and then it comes uyp with the "$" again..02:07
installKubuntutype id :02:07
milianhello, how do I change the language kmail checks my spelling in? I usually write german mails which get checked correctly but as soon as I write english mails, pretty much all is red ;) I cant find the proper configuration...02:07
installKubuntuAlllex: what does it tell you ?02:08
AlllexI'm root for "Gid" "Uid" and "Groups"02:08
installKubuntuok, the you're root02:08
installKubuntuthen **02:08
milianin the language dropdown of the spell checker window I only see ngerman, ndeutsch and ogerman and odeutsch02:08
installKubuntuso type : passwd02:08
installKubuntuand you can change the root passwd ;)02:08
AlllexAh K02:09
installKubuntumilian: maybe there is a package to install ?02:09
AlllexStill says "Conversation with us failed"?02:09
installKubuntumilian: maybe aspell-en, or so ?02:09
milianwell, I'm already searching for the appropriate package which could be missing but I dont have a clue02:09
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installKubuntumilian: i'll check02:09
miliani'll too02:10
milianaspell-en is installed02:10
installKubuntuAlllex: conversation with us failed ?02:10
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milianah, i think I got it - i have to pick aspell in kcontrol for spell checking02:11
installKubuntuAlllex: can you copy paste your terminal from the time you type sudo su, and then change the passwd please ?02:11
AlllexSorry- it's "Conversationg with SU failed"02:11
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Alllexroot@alex-desktop:/home/alex# sudo su02:13
Alllexroot@alex-desktop:/home/alex# passwd02:13
AlllexEnter new UNIX password:02:13
AlllexRetype new UNIX password:02:13
Alllexpasswd: password updated successfully02:13
milianyes, installKubuntu - it works now02:13
milianthanks :)02:13
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installKubuntumilian: great :D I couldn't even try to look for it as i was doing smthg else02:13
AlllexI'm certain it's something to do with the time I accidently changed my username without changing the home directory and couldn't log in. Ever since I sorted that problem this has happened...02:14
AlllexIs there anyway I can just reinstall Kubuntu?02:15
installKubuntuAlllex: yes, plug the CD :D02:15
mart81have we all voted yet on fridge?02:15
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installKubuntuAlllex: but what's your problem ?02:15
AlllexBut if I wipe the Kubuntu Partition- what will happen to the GRUB loader?! :(02:15
LynoureIs there BasKet 0.6 or newer available for dapper from anywhere?02:16
HobbseeAlllex: grub will be installed again at the end of the partitioner02:16
AlllexMy problem is I can no longer use as root in KDE. Only the console no matter what I do02:16
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installKubuntuthe grub base system is on the MBR i think, so it's safe ... Until it tries to read the /boot/grub/menu.lst, and it will fail then :D02:16
AlllexSO, If I wipe the partition- will Windows regain control of Boot?02:16
HobbseeLynoure: not dapper. there's 1.0 out.  probably debs on the basket site02:16
installKubuntuAlllex: using kde as root is a VERY BAD idea ;)02:17
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AlllexBut what about when I need to access Adept?02:17
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AlllexOr system settings?#02:17
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installKubuntuoh ... kdesu doesn't work ?02:17
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installKubuntuthat's odd02:17
installKubuntutry : kdesu adept ?02:18
installKubuntuin console, as normal user02:18
Alllexroot@alex-desktop:/home/alex# kdesu adept02:18
AlllexXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server02:18
AlllexXlib: No protocol specified02:18
Alllexkdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.002:18
LynoureHobbsee: nope, no debs or even rpms on http://basket.kde.org/download.php02:18
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LynoureHobbsee: I know they used to have 0.60 for dapper there, but not anymore.02:18
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installKubuntuAlllex: normal02:21
installKubuntuyour aren't in a normal user prompt/console.. Look : root@alex-desktop:/home/alex# , it is written "root" at the beginning ;)02:21
installKubuntuAnd when you (alex) is connected on KDE, the root doesn't have any acces ;)02:22
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HobbseeLynoure: grab the feisty source, compile it for dapper02:22
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installKubuntuAlllex: just open another konsole :)02:22
LynoureHobbsee: not worth it for me yet for an app I do not know I'll like. But thanks anyway.02:22
HobbseeLynoure: doesnt take long to build.  and it's very useful02:23
LynoureI was just hoping someone would know where the deb is as it does exist.02:23
Alllexalex@alex-desktop:~$ kdesu adept02:23
Hobbseeafaik, it doesnt.  and no, i'm not about to build one :)02:23
AlllexX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16602:23
Alllex  Major opcode:  14602:23
HobbseeAlllex: you can ignroe that error02:23
Alllex  Minor opcode:  302:23
Alllex  Resource id:  0x002:23
AlllexFailed to open device02:24
AlllexX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16602:24
Alllex  Major opcode:  14602:24
Alllex  Minor opcode:  302:24
Alllex  Resource id:  0x002:24
AlllexFailed to open device02:24
LynoureHobbsee: The moment I get a new hd I'll go to edgy, etch or feisty, and that has it anyway02:24
fdoving!paste | alllex02:24
ubotualllex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:24
HobbseeLynoure: edgy doesnt.02:24
HobbseeLynoure: edgy doesnt even have 0.6, iirc02:24
LynoureHobbsee: oh, well, etch or feisty :)02:24
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installKubuntuAlllex: try : sudo adept02:25
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Guardianhello, usb auto mounting stoped working after kde 3.5.5 update, is there a known solution to this problem ?02:25
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EdulixGuardian: uhm, it works here02:30
AlllexAh forget it... I'll just reinstall Kubuntu. All I want to know is; if I delete everything on my Kubuntu partition- will Windows XP (I'm runnign both) take over boot again?02:31
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HobbseeAlllex: no it wont02:32
HobbseeAlllex: when you install kubuntu again, grub will be written to the MBR, again02:32
GuardianEdulix: glad for you :)02:32
Edulixhehe yes02:33
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noelinstallKubuntu: I have downloaded and installed "timidity", but I cannot see it in "Applications/Sound and Video", nor can I see it in "Applications, add/remove"?02:35
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noelinstallKubuntu: Why does the synapic package manager let me see "timidity " for download, yet "Application,add/remove" doesn't?02:37
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ostlundi installed kubuntu from the live-cd, but the installer hanged in the end when it should download the list of updates......i restarted the computer and kbuntu was installed fine, but is there something wich dont where installed beacuse i exit the install?02:39
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Horstdoes somebody know how i can disable eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces ? (deleting auto before eth0 causes problems )02:41
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HobbseeHorst: put a # in front of it02:44
vegasmcpci'm trying to install kubuntu onto a desktop with an ati radeon x1900gt...i had it installed with the onboard vga card, but with the x1900 it won't02:45
Horst@Hobbsee, I don't wanna eth0 completly put out02:45
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HobbseeHorst: so...you want to disable it, but you dont?02:46
vegasmcpcwhen i put in the livedvd it will get up to the install options, and when i try either start livecd or start livecd in safe graphics mode it doesn't work02:46
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stamencan 3ddesktop work with beryl02:46
installKubuntunoel : sorry I was away02:46
vegasmcpcit'll have a flashing cursor in the upper left for about 3 seconds and then it dies02:46
vegasmcpcmonitor then says no signal02:46
stamenor it works only with XGL?02:46
Horst@Hobbsee: I don't want to disable, i want that eth1 is my first and standard interface02:46
HobbseeHorst: then just comment the auto eth0 out02:47
vegasmcpcany ideas?02:47
Hobbseewith a # in front02:47
Hobbseestamen: ask in #beryl02:47
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installKubuntunoel: add/remove list some of the most used programs. Synaptic just show them all02:48
Horst@hobbsee but i will use sometime eth0 cause eth0 is lan and eth1 wlan02:48
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installKubuntunoel: and timidity is just a command line program02:49
Schuenemannis there a program that can mount a virtual CD drive, like windows alcohol 120% does?02:49
installKubuntuthat's why it may not be in the menu02:49
noelinstallKubuntu: so how do I run it?02:49
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weedarseems my ISPs dns server is down, can I just add one manually to resolv.conf?02:50
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BluesKajthere iso-maker progs that do the same thing as alky 120% , Schuenemann02:51
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HobbseeHorst: install knetworkmanager - it will automate a lot of it02:51
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HobbseeSchuenemann: check man mount02:51
installKubuntunoel: did you read the wiki ? :)02:51
SchuenemannBluesKaj, like testing an image without having to burn it?02:51
installKubuntunoel: All is written in it02:51
noelinstallKubuntu: I shall now.02:52
installKubuntuI won't say you more ;) Because I don't know more lol02:52
SchuenemannHobbsee, can that be used to mount CD images?02:52
Horst@hobbsee:  My /etc/network/interfaces and WPA PSK Settings won't be removed?02:53
BluesKajSchuenemann, yes ...forgotten the names , but if you google02:53
HobbseeHorst: no - but you will need to type your passphrase into knetworkmanager when it prompts you02:53
HobbseeSchuenemann: any iso file, yeah02:54
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SchuenemannHobbsee, iso, cue... ?02:54
crazy_busI was thinking of buying a cd with comics on it.  However the comics are in pdf format.  Is there any software to extract the images to a better format?02:54
HobbseeSchuenemann: should all be covered in man mount02:55
BluesKajSchuenemann, I'm not sure about other progs but i have some video iso files that will open & play in VLC02:56
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olioBeato`crazy, try foxit reader02:59
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crazy_busisn't that for windows olioBeato`?03:02
weedarI'm able to use IRC, Skype and ping domain, but I can't surf with firefox and wget can't get files either. Any idea what could be wrong?03:02
BluesKajhmm , I keep getting a message in the terminal that line 18 in /etcfstab is bad ...this line 18  and the last charater in the line a "0" is in red . how do i fix this ? /dev/partition /media/mount point ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 003:02
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smozeseems like http is not working03:03
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Schuenemannweedar, have you tried not using domain names? like
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weedarSchuenemann: I've tried that also, does not work. I am able to access the web-interface of my router, though03:07
smozewhat kind of router?03:07
weedarIt's a belkin pre-n wireless03:07
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smozedsl router?03:08
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weedarno, there's a dsl-modem connected to it03:09
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weedarHm, I'll try rebooting the router, see if that helps03:09
smozetry to reboot both03:10
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SchuenemannHobbsee, do you what type of filesystem is a CUE file? I don't see any related in man mount03:11
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Schuenemanndo you know*03:11
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weedar_that did it! restarting the router was all that I needed03:11
weedar_sorry for bothering you guys :)03:11
HobbseeSchuenemann: iso9660 maybe- not sure about .cue files03:12
Hobbsee.iso is definetly iso966003:12
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noelinstallKubuntu: Thanks for your help. Goodnight.03:18
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dettoaltrimentiwhen I scroll up and down in Firefox (and in pretty much any program) it's really choppy and it seems to reload the entire page every time I move the scrollbar- can anyone help?03:24
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DjDarkmanhy ,how can I set KDM to autologin for my user?03:25
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atidemDjDarkman: System Settings --> Login Manager --> Convenience03:26
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DjDarkmanthank you03:27
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problema-redeI have only 1 network card but it is named eth103:29
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problema-redehow i resolv this problem?03:30
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Hobbseeproblema-rede: just use eth1?03:31
problema-redebut the knetdockapp only have options "lo , eth0, sit0"03:32
problema-redehow i make eth1 to eth0?03:32
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weedar_Is there a good kde ftpclient that supports tls?03:33
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ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd03:33
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weedar_all of those support tls Jucato?03:35
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problema-redeI had two network cards. One onboard and another off-board. I removed off-board and alone on-board, but linux left the only one that it was as eth1. How to make this only network card to be eth0?03:36
BluesKajFirefox has an FTP addon"FireFTP"03:36
JucatoI think Konqueror does03:36
ubotukftpgrabber: KDE FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0beta1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 989 kB, installed size 2792 kB03:37
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atidemproblema-rede: add to '/etc/modules.conf' line 'alias eth0 driver_name'03:40
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mart81ok, weird question but here it comes... is there a keyboard shortcut in konsole the wipe the whole line you've just typed?03:41
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problema-redeatidem: but i have only 1 network e not exist line alis eth1 driver_name03:43
problema-rede# /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.03:43
problema-rede# This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded03:43
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problema-rede# at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are ignored.03:44
problema-rede# Generated by sensors-detect on Thu Feb  8 10:43:21 200703:44
problema-rede# I2C adapter drivers03:44
problema-rede# modprobe unknown adapter NVIDIA i2c adapter 0 at 1:00.003:44
problema-rede# modprobe unknown adapter NVIDIA i2c adapter 1 at 1:00.003:44
problema-rede# modprobe unknown adapter NVIDIA i2c adapter 2 at 1:00.003:44
problema-rede# I2C chip drivers03:44
problema-rede# Warning: the required module smbus-arp is not currently installed on your system.03:44
problema-rede# For status of 2.6 kernel ports see http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/supported.html03:44
problema-rede# If driver is built-in to the kernel, or unavailable, comment out the following line.03:44
problema-redeit is my modules file03:44
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gnomefreakproblema-rede: use pastebin please03:45
problema-redewhat is pastebin ?03:45
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gnomefreak!pastebin | problema-rede03:45
ubotuproblema-rede: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:46
larson9999problema-rede: err, read the topic of the channels you join at least03:46
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atidemproblema-rede: which part of my phrase is not clear?03:47
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ubotucdrdao: records CDs in Disk-At-Once (DAO) mode. In component main, is extra. Version 1:1.2.1-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 400 kB, installed size 1092 kB03:48
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flippyhello all03:58
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MoonAngelkde forever03:59
flippycpk1 are you still here?04:00
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problema-redeatidem: by default, linux use eth0 when only have 1 network card. Why I my computer not?04:00
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atidemproblema-rede: probably, you have installed kubuntu when the system had two nics04:01
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problema-redeyes, one onboard e another offboard. But I removed the off-board, and now the only network card is named eth1. How I return to default (eth0 for only network card)?04:03
problema-redeWhere is the config file that put eth1 name on network card?04:04
Lynoureproblema-rede: you mean /etc/network/interfaces ? (I'm unsure what you mean by 'name' there)04:05
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problema-redehave the eth0 and eth1 too, same ip04:08
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problema-redei will delete the eth104:09
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problema-redehow i restart network on kubuntu?04:10
atidemproblema-rede: $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure etherconf04:11
atidemproblema-rede: if the package is not available, install it04:12
mazon1hi canu teel me what is RSDP04:12
problema-redeok, but it only detects the eth1 netcard04:13
problema-redewhen i type ifconfig, show only eth1 e lo04:14
problema-redebut, why eth1? Why not eth0?04:14
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Schuenemannwhere can I get the kernel source?04:18
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kubuntuInstallback ...04:19
kubuntuInstallquestion : why one of my disk isn't recognized under QTPArted ?04:19
Dr_willisdoes the bios even show the drive? would be the first check.04:20
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vegasmcpc_ok, there's two different drivers for my graphics card, do i use the xfree86 ones or the x.org ones?04:24
kubuntuInstallxorg I think04:25
kubuntuInstallYou install what drivers04:25
kubuntuInstallubuntu/kubuntu is in xorg from a quite long time04:25
vegasmcpc_graphics card04:25
kubuntuInstallyou're looking on ati site ?04:25
kubuntuInstallcrappy card :D04:25
vegasmcpc_not really, just not well supported in linux04:25
kubuntuInstallI advise you to get fglrx drivers from the repo04:25
vegasmcpc_what do you run?04:25
kubuntuInstallati too04:26
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kubuntuInstallthat's why I say it's crappy04:26
vegasmcpc_how do i run a .rpm file?04:26
Schuenemannyou can convert it do .deb, but they say it's not safe04:27
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kubuntuInstallowh !04:27
kubuntuInstallvegasmcpc don't even try :D04:27
kubuntuInstallrpm is for rpm based distribution04:27
kubuntuInstallubuntu is deb based04:27
fannagogannahi, wondering if anyone has seen the problem of kcmshell modules not appearing?04:27
fannagogannait is really really annoying04:28
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SchuenemannkubuntuInstall,  well, I only tried that once... and it worked04:28
kubuntuInstallYes . It works ... But it's a pain in the neck to get rid of then04:28
BluesKajone can use alien to convert rpms to deb pkgs04:28
kubuntuInstallthe install goes quite well... The uninstall is crappy as hell04:28
BluesKajhowever the dependencies can lead to broken pkgs04:29
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flippycan someone guide me thru iso download and cd burn04:31
kubuntuInstallvegasmcpc: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/fglrx04:31
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kubuntuInstallsorry, it is in french, but it is the most elegant solution i've found so far04:31
kubuntuInstallno need for easyUbuntu, for compilation etc04:31
kubuntuInstallvegasmcpc_: just follow the instructions in green04:32
kubuntuInstallIf you need help, i'm here ... As long as this buggy kubuntu install won't go04:33
SchuenemannkubuntuInstall, the uninstall was ok too :)04:33
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BluesKajflippy, if you can't do a download and burn , this not the place to ask for help, and maybe windows would be easier for you04:34
kubuntuInstallSchuenemann: it depends A LOT of the rpm packaging04:35
boss_78Do you known the French Community's channel?04:35
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:35
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SchuenemannkubuntuInstall, well, I just tried once04:35
jhutchins!burn | flippy04:35
ubotuflippy: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto04:35
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kubuntuInstalland as there are so lots rpm not compatible with themselves that a hell to know which one will go with alien04:36
tanyahow do I install a gtk2 theme on kubuntu?04:36
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kubuntuInstalltanya: aptitude install ubuntu-desktop04:36
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kubuntuInstalljust kidding :D04:36
Dr_willisi alwyas install the full gnome desktop anyway :)04:37
kubuntuInstallYou can install a package to do your gtk2 theme looks like KDE one04:37
tanyakubuntuInstall: do you know what the package is called?04:37
kubuntuInstalli'm looking for it04:38
stdin!info gtk-qt-engine04:38
ubotuPackage gtk-qt-engine does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas04:38
stdin!info gtk2-engines-gtk-qt04:38
ubotugtk2-engines-gtk-qt: theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 0.70-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 80 kB, installed size 364 kB04:38
stdinthere it is tanya ^^04:38
kubuntuInstalltanya: it is by default04:38
kubuntuInstalltanya: on the kubuntu 6.10 live cd, it is installed04:39
stdinyou still need to enable it in System Settings or KControl04:39
kubuntuInstallBut on the liveCD, it is enabled by default too04:39
kubuntuInstallbut not the fonts04:39
kubuntuInstall(the kubuntu install is really buggy... That's annoying)04:40
kubuntuInstallsomeone know how to make the media:/ url work in konqueror ?04:41
stdinuse /media04:41
Dr_willistype in mediaL/04:41
kubuntuInstallI think a service isn't working04:41
Dr_willistype in media:/04:41
kubuntuInstallthanks DrWillis lol04:41
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Dr_willisis what i do. :)  but there can be issues with using some programs and media:/ thats why it normally defaults to /media/04:41
Dr_willisor so i hear.04:41
stdinboth media:/ and /media work (tho slightly differently)04:41
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Dr_willisi just 'discovered'    ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/    the other day. :)04:42
Dr_willisand by-uuid04:42
slyfoxThis is so annoying is there a fix to make Kwallet work? I am getting pissed of becasue I have to enter passwords for Kmail and Kopete every time I start them ?04:42
Dr_willissomeone was asking how to get the uuid's easially.. theres how.04:43
kubuntuInstallstdin: /media is only a acces to the filesystem , no ?04:43
stdinkubuntuInstall: no, it shows non-mounted devices too, like media:/04:43
kubuntuInstallDr_willis: the problem with media:/ is that when I click on a device, it popup an error04:44
kubuntuInstallthat's why i think some service/daemon is missing04:44
kubuntuInstalland when i got under kubuntu after installing kubuntu-desktop, the media:/ url didn't even open !04:44
jhutchins/media is a mount point in the filesystem, like /usr or /mnt04:44
stdinjhutchins: not in konqueror04:45
jhutchinsstdin: Yes.04:45
jhutchinsmedia:/ is not.04:45
kubuntuInstallstdin: for me it isn't the same at all !04:45
slyfoxjhutchins: how do you overcome Kwallet frustration ?04:46
stdin I have unmounted devices in /media, and they don't show in 'ls /media'04:46
jhutchinsslyfox: I grumble and don't use that box much.04:46
jhutchinsslyfox: Not enough to fix it anyway.04:46
slyfoxjhutchins: is that Kwaller-KDE problem or Kubuntu ?04:46
jhutchinsslyfox: I run Mandriva most of the time, it allows me to disable kwallet and get on with life.04:46
slyfoxjhutchins: but how do you make aplicaitons rememmebr passwords - kmail and kopete ?04:47
jhutchinsThen again, Mandriva is still on 3.5.4, which may be part of it.04:47
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jhutchinsslyfox: They do just fine.  I check the "rember/save password" box, and they warn me, then do it.04:47
flippycan any1 guide me thru an iso unzip, mds5sum, and cd burn?04:48
slyfoxjhutchins: so if I can disable Kwallet, then applciaitons will remmebr passwords instead of Kwallet ?04:48
jhutchinsflippy: Did you read the web page the bot sent you earlier?04:48
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jhutchinsslyfox: They're supposed to, but in kubuntu I've had problems.  They rember the password, but they STILL want to bring up kwallet.04:48
jhutchinsslyfox: I don't think I've had the dialog box to set up kwallet come up in kubuntu, come to think of it, you might be able to go into kwallet settings and disable it.04:49
jhutchinsflippy: ?04:49
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Dr_willisunzip? you found a ziped iso?04:51
kubuntuInstallYes Dr_willis, winrar open them, it is only a zip file04:51
kubuntuInstalljust kidding \o/04:52
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kubuntuInstallreboot ing04:52
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Dr_willisThe trout wasent fresh.04:52
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jhutchinsI think it's wierd how reluctant people are to just try something without someone telling them what to do.04:54
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BluesKajafraid to break something , jhutchins :)04:57
marcuslu al*04:57
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jhutchinsBluesKaj: I run into the same problem teaching horseback riding though.04:58
marcusc quoi le canal francais04:58
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:58
Schuenemannmercy? :-O04:58
ag3rmy kubuntu bar has dissapear04:58
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ag3ror is grey04:58
BluesKajyeah i used to be a ski instructor , no pain no gain ...gotta learn from yer mistakes04:58
ag3rhow can i put back?04:59
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jhutchinsag3r: Have you restarted kubuntu?05:00
Schuenemannmarcus, /join #kubuntu-fr05:00
ag3ri hava to restart?05:00
jhutchinsag3r: Or just logged out and back in?05:00
ag3ri cant log out05:00
ag3rtheres no icons in the bar05:00
jhutchinsag3r: No, there's a way to restart it using dcop, but I don't remember it.05:00
jhutchinsDo you have a little bar with a triangle at the edge of the screen?05:00
ag3rthe bar is completely grey05:01
BluesKajag3r, right clikck in the desktop , configure desktop ,behavior05:01
jhutchinsag3r: It's gray, but the rest of your desktop isn't?05:01
jhutchinsBluesKaj: I think he needs to restart kicker maybe.05:01
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ag3rberyl is fuckin me05:01
jhutchinsag3r: Oh.  Beryl.  Nevermind.  Beryl is broken.05:02
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BluesKajoh no wonder , that damn eye candy again'05:02
ag3rthe nvidia drivers are incorrect or something05:02
ag3rberyl functions but the windows bar dissapear05:02
jhutchinsag3r: We banish you to #ubuntu-effects05:02
BluesKajwatch yer language ag3r , this si a family channel05:02
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BluesKajor #beryl05:03
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smozewhat is wrong with ALSA? i cannot seem to get it work from time to time...05:12
BluesKajI'll bet you have 2 soundcards , right ?05:13
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smozeno, just one integrated to motherboard05:13
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smozeerrorlogs tell me that it is busy?05:14
smozeand it is not05:14
BluesKajati ?05:15
ubuntudamnit fuck fuck... Kubuntu didn't install well again ... Twice ...05:15
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ubuntuI'll instal ubuntu classic then, :/05:15
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BluesKajubuntu, don't use bad language pls !05:16
jhutchinsubuntu: Did you try the alternate install CD?05:16
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:16
jhutchinsubuntu: I hear it can be helpful.05:16
smozethere's no ati in this machine05:17
ubuntujhutchins: oh ? What is it ?05:17
jhutchinsubuntu: Check the kubuntu site about it.  I just know it deals with some more difficult hardware and has more options.05:17
pmjdebruijnif I try to remove OpenOffice.org from my system adept says that would break things05:17
pmjdebruijnhow can I get around that05:17
jhutchinspmjdebruijn: What does it say it will break?05:17
pmjdebruijnis it a bug in adapet?05:17
BluesKajsmoze, click on the mixer and tell me what is written on the bottom beside the slider05:18
ubuntuI don't have odd hardware ... Ubuntu install perfectly on my box05:18
smozeBluesKaj: HDA Intel05:18
BluesKajpmjdebruijn, it will remove dependencies required by other programs05:18
pmjdebruijnThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.05:19
pmjdebruijnBluesKaj, afaik no programs have dependancies on OOo05:19
jhutchinsubuntu: Well, you could always install ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop on it, see if that works.05:19
pmjdebruijnjhutchins, that worked fine here05:19
jhutchinspmjdebruijn: Were you using the GUI to remove it?05:19
pmjdebruijnjhutchins, yeah, why?05:19
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BluesKajsmoze, ok have you checked sys/settings, sound/autodetect ?05:20
ubuntujhutchins: that's what I got before, but the media:/ url didn't work05:20
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stuartcan someone offer advice on bittornado05:21
smozei'll check them again...05:21
leiaris it possible to apt-get scribus 1,3?05:21
pmjdebruijnleiar, scribus-ng05:21
BluesKajstuart, use Ktorrent05:21
stuartBluesKaj, I just installed bittornado and it's gone mental05:22
stuartlaunched it and no gui came up, but firestarter is logging "events"05:22
stuarti cant finf the process in ksysguard05:22
BluesKajktorrent is designed for kde m bittornado isn't...05:22
smozeyou know, mediaplayers work fine on this system.. other software cant make a sound05:23
stuarthow to stop it?05:23
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BluesKajlaunched what, stuart ?05:23
leiarpmjde: what repository05:24
stuartafter installation "Bittornado client" appears in KDE menu05:24
BluesKajsmoze you prolly need to install codecs05:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:24
stuartthats what i started BluesKaj05:25
jhutchinssmoze: Some software defaults to arts, you have to tell it to use alsa.05:25
BluesKajstuart, which version of kubuntu ?05:25
stuartBluesKaj, can't recall if it's lts or edgy05:26
smozejhutchins: it is trying to use alsa05:26
BluesKajbittornado default on ubuntu ?05:26
jhutchinsubuntu: If your only problem is media:/ not working...05:26
smozeALSA error: pcm_hw.c:1246 snd_pcm_hw_open: open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed (Device or resource busy)05:27
jhutchinsubuntu: What version of kubuntu are you installing?  With what version of KDE?05:27
ubuntujhutchins: That's quite important for me05:27
ubuntulast release05:27
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jhutchinsubuntu: Which KDE?  It's just a shortcut, you can learn to live without it very quickly.  Most people don't even use it.05:27
BluesKajkubuntuInstall, change yer nick it's tooo confusing05:28
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kubuntuInstallBluesKaj: is it better ?05:28
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leiarpmjde: which repository do i use to apt-get scribus-ng05:29
Dr_willis!find scribus-ng05:29
ubotuFound: scribus-ng05:29
kubuntuInstalljhutchins: I was used to it when I used it05:29
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Dr_willis!info scribus-ng05:29
ubotuscribus-ng: Open Source Desktop Page Layout - developmental branch. In component universe, is optional. Version (edgy), package size 6944 kB, installed size 20952 kB05:29
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stuartBluesKaj, maybe i should just logout and login and see if it restarts... ?05:30
kubuntuInstalljhutchins: And I don't know why it didn't work again. I'm not satisfied with a soft which don't give me all its power05:30
kubuntuInstalljhutchins: I know, it is not a killer feature, but since I know it worked, i'm annoyed it was not working anymore05:31
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smozeok, problem solved05:31
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jhutchinskubuntuInstall: You might ask in #kde, they might know what process controls that.05:31
jhutchinskubuntuInstall: Don't storm in saying bad things about the software though.  You won't get any help that way.05:32
jhutchinssmoze: what was it?05:32
jhutchinskubuntuInstall: Also, when somebody asks you something like "which version of KDE do you have", you'll get much better help if you answer.05:32
kubuntuInstalljhutchins: And since I installed all my kubuntu desktop when I was under ubuntu. I thought it was just because of some problem with the apt. So i decided to install the whole kubuntu from the cd, and then I got disappointed :D05:33
MetaMorfoziShi all, i'm on kubuntu edgy with 3.5.6 kde, and i can't install libkonq4-dev because i think that is broken.05:33
kubuntuInstallat the moment, I'm under the liveCD05:33
MetaMorfoziSplease help me05:33
smozethere seems to be a bug in amarok. it kept reserving alsa until turned off.05:34
jhutchinskubuntuInstall: Does media:/ work on the live CD?05:34
kubuntuInstalljhutchins: no05:34
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leiarI've got a dapper installation. May I apt-get from an edgy addresse, like swap dapper with edgy in the sources.list?05:34
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jhutchinssmoze: Ah.  Amorok is updated frequently, you should maybe ask about it in #amarok and report the bug.05:34
stimeycan anyone help me change my keyboard to kanji characters05:35
kubuntuInstalljhutchins: KDE 3.5.505:35
jhutchinsHm, I thought the CD was 3.5.4 or earlier.05:35
kubuntuInstallleiar: I think you can, but you must use a dist-upgrade05:35
BluesKajleiar, recommend you install edgy , not all repos pkgs will work in dapper05:35
smozexmms does not have this bug05:35
kubuntuInstallotherwise depencies will be broken and you will have an unstable/broken system05:36
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jhutchinsleiar: The majority of stability problems in edgy are systems that were dist-upgraded, but yes, you can do it.05:36
stimey     05:36
jhutchinsleiar: Back up your data, be prepared to do a clean install if it breaks.05:36
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leiarBluesKaj. Is that easy, or do i have o start all over again? My case is to install scribus 1.305:36
BluesKajsorry leiar , dunno about scribus :( ... jhutchins ?05:37
jhutchinsBluesKaj: NFI.05:37
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kubuntuInstallleiar: I just get from ubuntu dapper to ubuntu edgy without a problem05:37
kubuntuInstallleiar: I didn't updated my dapper from 3 month when I updated to edgy05:38
jhutchinsBluesKaj: Some sort of big "Desktop Publishing" package.05:38
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leiarseems I got scribus 1.3 when I uncommented universe and multiverse in dapper :-)05:39
BluesKajleiar, I upgraded to edgy online with some help so...05:39
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:39
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jhutchinsleiar: What do you use scribus for?05:40
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leiarI'm a teacher. i'm planning to make o course where I teach aother teachers to use scribus in publishing school-newspaper. Using Scribus instead of Microsoft Publihser05:41
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leiarIf we learn scribus all schools are able to get this programme without paying (it's free for windows as well)05:42
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jhutchinsleiar: Cool.  Newspaper then.05:42
BluesKajleiar, I know this is an obvious question, but have you checked adept and synaptic ?05:42
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jhutchinsleiar: So you _have_ 1.3, you're just wondering about upgrading to Edgy?05:42
leiarBluesKaj: In synaptic I only found scribus 1.2, but that was maybe because I hadn't uncomented universe and multiverse in sources.list?05:43
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leiarWhen I uncommented universe and mulitverse, I got 1.3 (scribus-ng)05:43
jhutchinsleiar: So...  You've solved your problem then?05:44
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rolleeffe probere05:45
leiaryes. Haven't use synaptic much. It's based on the sources.list, isn't it?05:45
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BluesKajas is adept05:46
rolleis hier volk van Leuven?05:46
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:46
BluesKajheh my repos have only the 1.24 vers , leiar and I'm in edgy05:47
BluesKaj1.3 must be the latest release but it hasn't made it to the to my edgy repos yet05:48
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leiarHow do you adress replies to a nick. I see red colour when you write to me..05:49
kubuntuInstalljust type the exact name :D05:50
kubuntuInstallin konversation, type the beginning of the name and then push TAB button05:50
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leiarIf you want 1.3 you must uncomment universe or multiverse or both, I uncommented both before apt-get update05:50
kubuntuInstallyou'll get the list of name begining with that05:50
BluesKajok , leiar05:50
underdog5004what is the wireless manager for plain ubuntu?05:50
leiarkubuntuInstall: of course, the debian way...05:50
BluesKajI have not commented repos :)05:51
BluesKajerr no05:51
underdog5004also, what is the IRC client for ubuntu as well?05:51
smozeomfg, whole system crashed :D05:51
kubuntuInstallleiar: don't know if it is the debian way, but a lot of completion engine work with the tab button :D05:51
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BluesKajxchat in ubuntu ?05:52
leiarkubuntuInstall: not in windows though :-)05:52
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BluesKajyes , tab works in mirc05:52
kubuntuInstalllol leiar, sure :D05:52
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kubuntuInstallleiar: but you can have a really basic completion in the cmd.exe from windows05:52
kubuntuInstallit only complet the file/dir names05:53
Gazanyone know a good equaliser application?05:53
BluesKajtheres one in xmms05:53
Gazi have kmix, but it does not have an equaliser05:53
BluesKajamarok also has eq05:54
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vegasmcpcwhat's the shortcut to the konsole?05:56
kubuntuInstallit is in the system05:56
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Gazamarok does, however, i'm playing this terence mckenna mp3, and his voice is all outta shape05:56
kubuntuInstallKMenu > System05:56
vegasmcpci installed the ati drivers and for some reason it screwed up the resolution on my monitor05:56
vegasmcpccan't see the kmenu05:56
Gazthen type konsole05:56
vegasmcpcalso, do you guys know how to set your resolution through the konsole?05:56
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boingolovI just upgraded to edgy and now Ctrl + Tab switches desktops.  I want to disable this so that I can switch tabs in firefox with Ctrl Tab.  Any thoughts?05:57
BluesKajdo you have a mouse ? ...use that05:58
vegasmcpcis there a keyboard shortcut to the kmenu?05:59
boingolovBluesKaj, they let you talk now?06:00
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Dr_willisboingolov,  remove the shortcut for ctrl-tab06:00
Schuenemannboingolov, how about ctrl+ pgup or pgdown ?06:00
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Schuenemannvegasmcpc, alt f1, I believe06:01
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vegasmcpcnevermind, i was able to do it06:01
vegasmcpcdidn't think of just scrolling the mouse to where the kmenu was supposed to be06:01
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vegasmcpcit defaulted my stuff to 640x48006:01
boingolovDr_willis, thanks06:02
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Schuenemannboingolov, ctrl + pgup/pgdown is better, you can choose which direction to switch06:02
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der0bhey folks, is there a kde app that allows me to configure what happens when I close the laptop lid?  I can't find it in the kde control panel06:04
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kubuntuInstallBy the way, the cam function of kopete works with which protocol ?06:08
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Treskoder0b: any option when right-cliking the systray hibernate icon?06:08
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atidemkubuntuInstall: yahoo and msn protocols06:14
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kubuntuInstallatidem: thanks :)06:20
atidemkubuntuInstall: you are welcome06:21
der0btresko: I'm not seeing anything that allows me to configure the lid06:21
kubuntuInstalllast try of kubuntu install with the alternate CD06:22
kubuntuInstallif it doesn't work, go ubuntu ;(06:22
Treskoder0b: if you just click the battry icon?06:22
der0bsorry tresko, I'm a fool :P06:22
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der0bthanks I see it now..06:22
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lordtutuHy! Im hun06:24
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BluesKajwhat is a *.mdf file ?06:26
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lordtutuvitual cd06:27
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lordtutuaps alcohol and demon tools06:27
Dr_willisused to use those all the time06:28
lordtutuim big litle eng :P06:28
Dr_willisUntill i converted to the true way of Linux!06:28
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BluesKajwhat do I use to play them ?06:28
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  under linux - nothing that i am aware of.06:29
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BluesKajok, what about windows ?06:29
Dr_willisalcohol120% or DemonTools (yes its a STUPID name)06:29
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Dr_willisof course using those tools under windows -- causes a whole nest  of other issues as well. :)06:30
BluesKajdon't ahve either one , is there a way to convert to iso or ....06:30
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atidemBluesKaj: try acetoneISO06:30
Dr_willisdemontools is free.. ya could use it to mount the .mdf then access it as if it was a normal cdrom drive06:30
Dr_willisnever seen/heard of acetoneiso :)06:30
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BluesKajin linux or windows atidem ?06:31
atidemDr_willis: now you know it06:31
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Dr_willistheres also kiso. but not sure if it handles mdf06:31
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BluesKajok   anyway gotta go ...later gents06:33
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cavallo_I have in xorg.conf this line:  "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" <-- but I can select the resolution 1400x1050. Is there any reason for that ?06:34
bewlyou have that on all depths?06:34
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Cavallitoanybody ? :)06:37
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lordtutuhy! i need help hun kubuntu irc adres plz06:39
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lordtutuMagyar van valaki?06:41
ubotuza hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.06:41
lordtutuHungary :)06:41
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Skullerhey guys...i was using this site to get the w32 codecs...but when i do apt-get update it cant connect to these repos coz of 'connection timeout.........http://www.debianadmin.com/install-libdvdcss-and-w32-video-codecs-in-debian-and-ubuntu.html06:42
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lordtutuim MPlayer.com W32 codec download06:43
mzanfardinoI've just installed kubuntu and I have a dual-head nvidia video card.  I've configured each head with it's own desktop and want to duplicate the settings from one desktop to the other.  What files/directories should I could in order to duplicate the desktop look and interface (I don't want to have to go through all the settings steps again if I can avoid it).06:43
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Skullerlordtutu: i am sorry...but i dont get you06:44
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TreskoSkuller: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/06:45
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SkullerTresko: yes...i have added most of the repos there in my source list06:46
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michal_hi guys06:46
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TreskoSkuller: sorry, it seems for ubuntu... I think there are an for kubuntu too...06:46
TreskoSkuller: connection error?06:46
michal_I nees some links to install asus EAX1650PRO06:47
True_FriendAfter upgrading to KDE 3.5.6 my kopete is not working properly i cannot transfer or receive through it, always get an error message while it was ok on kde 3.5.5 should it downgrade to 3.5.5?06:47
SkullerTresko: i followed the instrucions on this page...wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb....and get a 'connection timeooout' when doing the update06:47
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jhutchins!formats > Skuller06:48
TreskoSkuller: that is for Debian... Youre running kubuntu right?06:48
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hyper_ch!formats > hyper_ch06:48
TreskoSkuller: that don't explain the connection error though...06:49
SkullerTresko: yes...if you look at the bottom of the page the instruction are for ubunty too06:49
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TreskoSkuller: Try another mirror?06:49
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SkullerTresko: yes...i think the update thingy is not able to connect to those repos that i ave added...prolly they ave bin removed or something06:49
SkullerTresko: how to use a mirror?06:49
michal_you look & you see yourself06:50
Dr_willisunless you are  a vampire06:51
Dr_willis + + + +06:51
TreskoSkuller: mirrors are just copies of the original repos... Can this help out? http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/blog/lista-repository-sourceslist-ottimizzata-per-ubuntu-kubuntu-linux/06:51
Skulleri am using this site for getting the w32 codecs......is it alrite?...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs06:51
jim_hi all06:51
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs06:51
True_FriendAfter upgrading to KDE 3.5.6 my kopete is not working properly i cannot transfer or receive files through it, always get an error message while it was ok on kde 3.5.5 should it downgrade to 3.5.5?06:51
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TreskoTrue_Friend: 3.5.6 are pretty bleeding edge so it is not a surprise things like that happens...06:53
michal_how to install asus EAX1650PRO... links?06:53
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True_Friendso i have to downgrade i think it would best06:53
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pasha898hi all06:54
jhutchinsTrue_Friend: You might find and remove any files in .kde related to kopete and see if that helps (back them up, move them somewhere, don't just delte).06:54
jhutchinsmichal_: It's a Radeon.06:55
jhutchinsmichal_: Look here;06:55
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jhutchins!ati | michal_06:55
ubotumichal_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:55
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michal_wery thanx06:56
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voicuis there some logs about the total trafiic of ktorrent? just curious06:57
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pasha898someone knows how to access windows workgroup through linux, just curious if i can use linux at work instead windows06:59
HymnToLifeubotu, tell pasha898 about samba | pasha898, see the private message from ubotu.06:59
voicupasha898: try smb:/ in konqueror06:59
voicuor that06:59
pasha898thanks i ll try07:02
ubuntuhi i got a dvd rw drive today but kubuntu crashs wen i plug it in any advice07:02
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HymnToLifeusb drive ?07:05
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pasha898i tried smb:/ it says there is a firewall07:13
pasha898no access07:14
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coreymon77hi guys07:15
coreymon77i think my sound settings are all messed up07:16
coreymon77how can i reset them to the way that they were originally07:16
coreymon77what i mean is07:18
coreymon77the levels in kmixer are all messed up07:18
coreymon77and i dont know how they were originally07:18
coreymon77how do i reset it?07:18
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ni-hao777i need reinstall APT becasue i wrote some bad and dont work07:19
ni-hao777if any bodie know how reinstall it07:19
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coreymon77my sound is all messed up now07:19
ni-hao777i wiil apreciate07:19
coreymon77so how do i reset kmix to the original levels?07:19
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manu_hi i wanted to activate standy with nv driver, but in xorg are 2 section device in which one shall i change it?07:21
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coreymon77can you guys please help?07:22
Dr_willisni-hao777,  you are thinking in windows terms...07:22
jhutchinscoreymon77: stop kdm, Move .kde/share/config/kmixrc to somewhere, restart kdm.07:22
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Dr_willisni-hao777,  whats the error you are getting when you try an 'apt-get install somthing'07:22
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coreymon77you mean do that in text mode07:22
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manu_ni-hao777: apt-get update && apt-get install apt07:23
Dr_willisni-hao777,  you really should turn off your caps lock. I imagine most of the channel has you on ignreo by now.07:23
jhutchinsni-hao777: capslock, please.07:23
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ubuntuso any of u have this problem07:23
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ni-hao777but now it dont work becasue these lines be referd to something07:24
ni-hao777dont work with apt or other thing07:24
Dr_willisubuntu,  cant say that i ever have. -07:24
coreymon77jhutchins: i do that in text mode?07:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dontwork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:24
coreymon77or should i just shut down kmix and then do it07:24
jhutchinscoreymon77: Yeah, Ctrl-Alt-F107:24
ni-hao777but i need remodifque it for can work with it again07:24
Dr_willis'dont work' is rather vague.. what sort of erroe massges is it giving.07:24
ni-hao777givme a minute07:25
jhutchinscoreymon77: I'd prefer you got the whole kde system out of the way in case something wants sound access while you're doing this.07:25
coreymon77so what command should i d07:25
linopilin kopete how do I see hebrew font ?07:25
ni-hao777The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.07:25
jhutchinssudo service kdm stop07:25
jhutchinsmv .kde/share/config/kmixrc oldmix07:25
jhutchinssudo service kdm start07:25
ni-hao777you get?07:26
jhutchinsni-hao777: What happens when you run apt-setup?07:26
ubuntudr willis do u no how to detect new hardware07:26
Dr_willisni-hao777,  did you try 'sudo apt-setup' and 'sudo apt-get update' yet ?07:26
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ni-hao777it open so fast and close foritself07:26
linopilin kopete how do I see hebrew font ?07:26
Dr_willisubuntu,  i plug in a cd drive and i edit the fstab to mount it wheever07:26
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jhutchinsni-hao777: you need to open a terminal and do it there, so you can see what happens.07:27
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Skullerhey guys...i am sick of trying but i just want to be able to play DivX....can anyone help me please?07:27
Dr_willisubuntu,  if the drive is having some issues - 'dmesg' command may be giving out some errors/information07:27
Dr_willisSkuller,  i play them all the time.. i normally use vlc.07:27
ni-hao777yes i did it and send me a message to do apt setuo but dont07:27
jhutchinsSkuller: Did you read the factoid?07:27
ni-hao777can do it work07:28
SkullerDr_willis: i wanna use kaffe07:28
SkullerSkuller: factoid?07:28
jhutchinsni-hao777: Yes, sorry, I forget to use sudo.07:28
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:28
jhutchinssudo apt-setup, as Dr_willis told you.07:28
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ubuntuhttp://www.linuxforums.org/reviews/starting_ubhow do u run that cos it crashis in boot up07:29
linopilin kopete how do I see hebrew font ?07:29
jhutchinsSkuller: Also google divx kubuntu.07:29
Skullerjhutchins: oh..thnx07:30
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ubuntuthe artacal not there07:30
linopilis there such a thing ,like windows , global non-UNICODE  language in UBUNTu ?07:30
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jhutchinsubuntu: what are you trying to do?07:30
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jhutchinslinopil: Yeah, I've seen people actually post hebrew characters here in IRC, and it displayed right-to-left on my system.07:31
Skullerguys i also have installed w32 codecs.....shouldnt this have enabled me to play DivX in Kaffeine already?07:31
jhutchinslinopil: I don't know how to set it up though.07:31
jhutchinslinopil: Don't you just select your location?07:31
jhutchinsSkuller: Nope.07:31
ni-hao777used apt setup and dont work07:32
ni-hao777and with sudo apt-setup no work07:32
jhutchinsSkuller: poke around on google, there's a lot to explain about it, but I know it's not hard.07:32
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jhutchinsSkuller: divx isn't part of w32codecs.07:32
jhutchinsni-hao777: Gotta tell us what it DOES do, not just "no work".07:33
tucoHello all. I just installed Kubuntu and need some help to install drivers for my ati card and audigy 2 zs notebook. Thank you.07:33
jhutchins!ati > tuco07:33
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ni-hao777ok im learning giveme pacience07:33
ni-hao777yesterday i modified some lines to get vlc to show movies07:34
tucoYes Hutchins07:34
ni-hao777and after it the apt dont work07:34
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Skullerjhutchins: ok thnx man....i was just downloading something   to do with codecs from somewhere...if it doesnt work i will hunt on google..thnx once again07:34
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ni-hao777because teold me like one line to refer is bad or dont are correct07:34
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ni-hao777i need correct it for work07:35
ni-hao777and get the actualization and pack if i want install07:35
tucoIs there something I need to change in the adapt manager (repositories) so I can get more packages?07:35
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:35
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SkullerE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:35
SkullerE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:35
jhutchinstuco: Generally most of us want to enable univers and multiverse.07:35
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Skullerumm...what do i do?07:36
tucoYes...that is it Hutchins :-)07:36
jhutchinsSkuller: sudo?07:36
Skullermy konsole crashed last time07:36
LjLSkuller: is another process using it? do you have other APT programs open?07:36
tucoHow can I change that?07:36