[12:12] <christian23nv> _
[12:12] <Jucato> !br | christian23nv
[12:12] <ubotu> christian23nv: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:12] <coyotle>     ?
[12:12] <adydas> !api
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about api - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <adydas> !apimissmatch
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apimissmatch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <adydas> !nvidia
[12:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:13] <Schuenemann> !es | christian23nv
[12:13] <ubotu> christian23nv: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:13] <juano> christian23nv:
[12:13] <juano> como estas
[12:13] <juano> volviste ??
[12:14] <juano> christian23nv: unete a #kubuntu-es
[12:14] <juano> Jucato: thats spanish not portuguese, dont be insulting :P
[12:14] <Jucato> didn't know
[12:15] <juano> Jucato: :P
[12:16] <adam_> hey, has anyone got kvm working on edgy?
[12:17] <adam_> i got the source and compiled it, but im having errors with modprobe trying to stick the module in the kernel
[12:18] <BluesKaj> !pt | juano
[12:18] <ubotu> juano: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:18] <Schuenemann> lol
[12:18] <BluesKaj> hehe
[12:18] <Schuenemann> is ubotu a female?
[12:18] <flipstar> lol
[12:18] <Cavallito> lol
[12:18] <juano> BluesKaj: well, another ET
[12:18] <NightBird> Schuenemann, if you're desperate... maybe...
[12:18] <BluesKaj> never know these days
[12:18] <juano> BluesKaj: its spanish not portuguese
[12:19] <Schuenemann> NightBird, not that, he says "obrigada"
[12:19] <Schuenemann> only females say that
[12:19] <BluesKaj> juano, why would you be insulted ? :)
[12:19] <NightBird> what about neither male nor female?
[12:19] <juano> not insulted
[12:19] <juano> i mean dont be a sucker and learn something out of your own country
[12:19] <BluesKaj> neut bot
[12:20] <BluesKaj> ??
[12:20] <juano> :P
[12:20] <Schuenemann> juano, he just confused languages, what's wrong about that?
[12:20] <Schuenemann> and besides, pt and es look a lot like each other
[12:20] <adydas> ok i need to fix this today, ive installed my nvidia drivers changed x11conf and booted, Nvidia splash screen comes up and the cards all working, BUT when i reboot i get a screen error and to regain X im forced to change nvidia to nv OR re install the nvidia.run drivers then it works ok again UNTILL reboot.
[12:20] <juano> Schuenemann: well if im not sure, i wouldnt give a german a french help chat
[12:20] <BluesKaj> yeah, i d like to see  you tell the diff between swedish and danish , juano
[12:20] <juano> Schuenemann: thats my point
[12:21] <adam_> alt tab away for a second and a whole bunch of messages pop up, lol
[12:21] <juano> BluesKaj: lol, but i dont recomend channels to danish or swedish
[12:21] <Schuenemann> well, he tried helping
[12:21] <juano> BluesKaj: i know, im teadsing ya , dont get upset
[12:21] <juano> teasing*
[12:21] <daleach> is everyone havign trouble with us.archive.ubuntu.com or just me?
[12:21] <daleach> are there mirrors?
[12:21] <juano> BluesKaj: its just a silly joke :P im bored hehe
[12:22] <BluesKaj> not to worry , i raised 4 kids like you :)
[12:22] <cox377> has there been an update to kde or something, because things feel faster for some unbeknown reason
[12:22] <juano> BluesKaj: hahahahah
[12:22] <juano> BluesKaj: lol
[12:22] <Sanne> daleach: generally, <countrycode>.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:22] <juano> BluesKaj: kids ? how old are you ?
[12:22] <daleach> GULP
[12:22] <daleach> is canada ca? hehe
[12:22] <BluesKaj> 63
[12:22] <BluesKaj> yup
[12:23] <Schuenemann> juano, french and german are very different, your example was poor :p
[12:23] <Sanne> daleach: I think so, try ;)
[12:23] <daleach> i can just use theirs i guess
[12:23] <daleach> hehe
[12:23] <adam_> has anyone got kvm working on edgy?
[12:23] <Sanne> daleach: of course. Or mine, de ;) (a bit far, I guess)
[12:23] <juano> Schuenemann: well it was an example :P, and portuguese and spanish are a hell a lot different
[12:23] <juano> Schuenemann: i can tell you that :P
[12:23] <daleach> i never had this issue with debian
[12:23] <angasule> juano: naah, they're not very different
[12:23] <Schuenemann> not THAT different
[12:23] <christian23nv> jauno
[12:23] <christian23nv> juano
[12:24] <juano> angasule: yes they are
[12:24] <angasule> juano: no seas pesado, te digo que no :P
[12:24] <juano> angasule: heheh claro que si :P, solo estoy tratando de que aprendan algo :P
[12:24] <Schuenemann> !pt | juano
[12:24] <ubotu> juano: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:24] <juano> lol
[12:24] <Schuenemann> oops
[12:25] <Schuenemann> :D
[12:25] <adam_> guess no
[12:25] <adam_> not*
[12:25] <angasule> Schuenemann: he's from uruguay, they speak spanish
[12:25] <juano> !fr | Schuenemann
[12:25] <ubotu> Schuenemann: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:25] <daleach> hahaha
[12:25] <Schuenemann> angasule, I was just kidding :)
[12:25] <juano> Schuenemann: lol
[12:25] <angasule> ah :P
[12:25] <christian23nv> juano can u help me_
[12:25] <juano> Schuenemann: liked that ? i bet they get really angry in germany when they speak french huh ?
[12:25] <juano> Schuenemann: hihihi
[12:25] <Schuenemann> well, I don't
[12:26] <juano> christian23nv: sure go into #kubuntu-es
[12:26] <juano> Schuenemann: or better off, when they THINK you are french
[12:26] <Schuenemann> nobody will listen to a german and think he's a french
[12:26] <ochemsucks> hey does anyone know how to change the xf86audiomedia button in kubuntu? its assigned to launch amarok and it was a default setting. couldnt find anything in forums.
[12:26] <Sanne> juano: angry? Why? Confused maybe, but not angry.
[12:26] <MeTa> !nvidia
[12:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:27] <juano> Sanne: hehe, well i thought they got angry, its what it seemed though, my mom is been to germany , she told me that happened oftenly
[12:27] <Sanne> juano: lol, that's quite funny ;)
[12:27] <juano> Sanne: its normal though, since they have tons of imigrants and with all that radical stuff and etc.
[12:28] <juano> Sanne: well anyway, this is way to off-topic LOL
[12:28] <juano> so Sanne , Schuenemann , and angasule , please, lets discuss ubuntu
[12:29] <Sanne> juano: right (just wanted to point out that I'm german, in case you didn't get that ;)
[12:29] <angasule> naaah
[12:29] <juano> that goes for me too
[12:29] <Schuenemann> where? in #ubuntu-fr ?
[12:29] <Sanne> hahaha
[12:29] <juano> Sanne: hehe :P , yes i know, i know you are with those names lol, specially Schuenemann
[12:30] <Sanne> :)
[12:30] <Schuenemann> I'm not german
[12:30] <Schuenemann> I'm from Brazil
[12:30] <juano> well you have a german last name in case you didnt notice
[12:31] <Schuenemann> oh, I haven't noticed it
[12:31] <Schuenemann> :p
[12:32] <juano> well then , better off leaving this issue beside then, if you didnt know that
[12:34] <sb9> im currently installing httpd - is there a default where the daemon looks for httpd.conf ?
[12:34] <sb9> cannot find this option in the stratup script ?
[12:34] <juano> Jucato: i hope you didnt get upset :P, i was joking
[12:35] <flipstar> any1 knows how to set up an bnc/proxy for Konversation???
[12:37] <sb9> got it
[12:37] <christian23nv> juano
[12:37] <christian23nv> como llego al canal de kubuntu-es
[12:38] <adam_> sorry to repeat myself but has anyone got kvm working on edgy?
[12:38] <christian23nv> como llego al canal de kubuntu-es
[12:39] <christian23nv> juano estas ahi
[12:39] <christian23nv> ?
[12:39] <christian23nv> ahora si
[12:39] <christian23nv> 
[12:39] <christian23nv> el teclado funciona
[12:40] <Chousuke> christian23nv: This channel doesn't speak spanish
[12:40] <Schuenemann>  /join #kubuntu-es
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> !es
[12:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:40] <xyverz> hey, quick question - is there a way to have kubuntu pick the generic kernel over the 386 kernel, so I can enable smp support?
[12:41] <scoates> hello
[12:42] <flipstar> hello
[12:42] <scoates> when I enable xinerama, my primary display is mostly black (I can see cursors) and my 2ndary display behaves poorly (mostly only window shadows, but I do see widgets for s aplit second after I mouseover). Help?
[12:42] <scoates> nvidia
[12:42] <flipstar> did u installes all drivers correctly?
[12:43] <adydas> ok i need to fix this today, ive installed my nvidia drivers changed x11conf and booted, Nvidia splash screen comes up and the cards all working, BUT when i reboot i get a screen error and to regain X im forced to change nvidia to nv OR re install the nvidia.run drivers then it works ok again UNTILL reboot.
[12:43] <scoates> flipstar: I think so. nvidia-settings works for other X modes (just not xinerama)
[12:43] <flipstar> hm u can check it with 'fglrxinfo'
[12:44] <SatanMonk> Hello
[12:46] <troxor> scoates: why not use twinview instead of xinerama?
[12:47] <troxor> adydas: did you install via adept/synaptic?
[12:47] <scoates> troxor: because it stretches the task bar very poorly
[12:47] <scoates> and dialogs pop up in the middle of 2 screens
[12:47] <scoates> and my desktop icons aren't contained properly
[12:47] <scoates> etc
[12:47] <xyverz> anybody know how I can set the generic kernel as my default, system-wide (instead of having to edit the grub config every time I do a dist-upgrade?)
[12:48] <troxor> xyverz: what if you removed the other one?
[12:48] <xyverz> instead of the 386 kernel
[12:48] <milos83> hi people! can someone plase tell me how to install window decoration on kubuntu 6.06 ?
[12:49] <xyverz> troxor: would you believe me if I told you I'd never thought of that?? >.<
[12:49] <troxor> xyverz: absolutely not... j/k ;)
[12:49] <adydas> troxor: via apt-get i did nvidia-glx
[12:49] <adydas> the rest was via nvidia.coms driver .run file
[12:50] <troxor> adydas: do you have nvidia-kernel-common too?
[12:50] <BluesKaj> xyverz, you can edit grub , but i forgot the cmds
[12:50] <adydas> thats where im not sure
[12:50] <adydas> its a fresh install
[12:51] <troxor> adydas: use the nvidia.run to remove the drivers it installed,  and then subsequently do an apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[12:51] <adydas> troxor:
[12:51] <SatanMonk> Does anyone have any leads on the "tty; jobcontrol turned off" issue?
[12:51] <adydas> i allready ahve that ( its the newest version )
[12:52] <xyverz> BluesKaj: I was hoping to not need to edit grub every time
[12:53] <scoates> back later. I'll check the log if someone says my name
[12:53] <troxor> adydas: iirc, the .run and the packages installed via apt(nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common)  serve the same purpose, so it's usually best to completely remove the files installed by the .run, and use the ones via apt
[12:54] <troxor> xyverz: you can also use savedefault in grub too
[12:54] <adydas> i installed the apt-get glx and common before i did the .run
[12:54] <adydas> but why dopes that stop it working after a reboot
[12:54] <adydas> the drivers are live, i x11 and run it works
[12:54] <adydas> i reboot and it fails
[12:54] <bxnp> is there a upgrade to kde 3.5.6 for dapper
[12:54] <xyverz> troxor: oooooh!  I knew it was there somewhere!
[12:54] <xyverz> thanks
[12:54] <troxor> adydas: the modules on your drive are probably different from the ones in memory
[12:55] <troxor> so when you reboot, the ones on your drive are loaded (broken), and the ones from memory(working) are nowhere to be found
[12:55] <adydas> ah that does make sense, but why and more importantly how do i fix it
[12:55] <troxor> xyverz: np
[12:55] <SatanMonk> Is FeistyFawn more stable at the moment?
[12:56] <troxor> SatanMonk: where do you get that jobcontrol message?
[12:56] <SatanMonk> I get it when I reboot
[12:56] <troxor> what stage?
[12:56] <SatanMonk> I'm using my winblows box right now, because my linux is unusable
[12:57] <SatanMonk> I'm using Edgy 64 kernel 2.6.17-11
[12:58] <SatanMonk> I get all the way to the Kubuntu splash screen then I get sh: can't access tty; jobcontrol turned off
[12:58] <SatanMonk> with (initramfs) prompt
[12:58] <SatanMonk> I have been reading the forums like mad.. the only connection I can seem to find is that most of "us" that have this problem are running the 64 bit ver. didn't know if it was a bug
[01:00] <troxor> SatanMonk: do you know how to modify the grub boot line?
[01:00] <troxor> adydas: there should be a switch you pass to the .run file, to make it uninstall
[01:01] <SatanMonk> can't quite remember no.. I haven't used linux since debian 2.12
[01:01] <SatanMonk> thought that I would give it a go again.... lol
[01:01] <troxor> adydas: then, apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* to completely get rid of the driver packages.. (and of course back up any configuration files you may have edited manually, as --purge will destroy them)
[01:02] <troxor> adydas: then, just reinstall them with apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common (iirc, that should all work)
[01:02] <adydas> did i point out that it moans about a kernel modul miss match for some version
[01:02] <adydas> this will fix that?
[01:03] <troxor> SatanMonk: in the grub menu, hit 'e', then select the kernel line, hit 'e' again... there should be a root=<hex garbage>. just change that to your partition name, like hda1 or such
[01:03] <troxor> SatanMonk: then, hit b to boot
[01:03] <adam_> sorry to repeat myself but has anyone got kvm working on edgy?
[01:03] <|lostbyte|> !install
[01:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:04] <SatanMonk> ok... now, I'm dual booting, so if this fails.. I SHOULD be able to boot up winblows right?
[01:04] <troxor> SatanMonk: unless you change the windows stanza, yes
[01:04] <SatanMonk> also you should know.. I've never used GRUB before, only LILLO
[01:05] <SatanMonk> But I will give it a shot
[01:05] <SatanMonk> See ya on the other side.... (hopefully)
[01:05] <troxor> SatanMonk: grub is nicer, but gl
[01:05] <troxor> oops
[01:05] <adam_> let me be more specific anyone know why modprobe is saying it cant find the kvm-intel module when im in the folder with the modue
[01:06] <adam_> module*
[01:06] <troxor> adydas: right, the .run probably installs a newer kernel module, and the packages probably an earlier X module.. those need to be the same
[01:06] <troxor> adam_: dunno about kvm really, but did you run a depmod -ae just in case?
[01:07] <adam_> didnt know that command, what does it do?
[01:07] <adam_> (i could just do it, but then what would i learn, lol)
[01:08] <troxor> adam_: generates the dependencies and symbols for modules and stuff
[01:08] <adam_> ah ok
[01:08] <adam_> do i add the kvm-intel.ko after the depmod -ae?
[01:09] <troxor> adam_: nah, don't think depmod takes such args
[01:09] <adam_> k
[01:09] <adam_> time to try
[01:09] <shadowhywind> anyone have any idea why when i try to use my wireless my my computer slows down to a halt
[01:10] <|lostbyte|> Is there a minimal ubuntu cd ?
[01:10] <troxor> shadowhywind: if you run `top`, are there any progs using 99-100% cpu?
[01:10] <shadowhywind> no
[01:10] <|lostbyte|> Just console..
[01:11] <adam_> still saying it cant find the module that is right there, lol, i wonder if there is a manual way to do it
[01:12] <adydas> troxor: where would i obtain info to fix or match those modules
[01:12] <Sanne> adam_: are you sure you are in the modules directory that corresponds to your running kernel?
[01:13] <adam_> hmm, there is just a folder kernel
[01:13] <troxor> adydas: installing the nvidia packages with apt will automatically install matching versions
[01:13] <adam_> man didnt think about that
[01:13] <adam_> i didnt think the source from kvms website would have been kernel dependent
[01:13] <Sanne> adam_: you should be in /lib/modules/<kernel-version>
[01:14] <adam_> and do modprobe from there
[01:14] <Sanne> adam_: so you compiled the module yourself?
[01:14] <jarn> checkinstall is just a replacement for doing "make && make install" that creates a deb, correct?
[01:14] <adam_> yeah, i got the source from sourceforge and compiled it
[01:14] <adam_> since i dont have fiesty to get it from the repo's
[01:14] <troxor> |lostbyte|: did you want to do a network install?
[01:15] <troxor> shadowhywind: does `cat /proc/meminfo` show your memory all being used?
[01:16] <adydas> troxor:
[01:16] <Sanne> adam_: don't think I know further then, maybe somebody else knows, or ask on the kvms website?
[01:16] <|lostbyte|> troxor, nope, Just look for bash and vim for a linux class we have..
[01:16] <|lostbyte|> So i dont really need the X
[01:16] <shadowhywind> I will have to try to run that command next time i start the wireless..
[01:16] <adydas> uname -r
[01:16] <adydas> 2.6.17-11-generic
[01:16] <adam_> i was gonna go there next
[01:16] <adam_> thanks for trying tho
[01:16] <adydas> The following extra packages will be installed:
[01:16] <adydas>   linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386
[01:16] <|lostbyte|> And the pc's there have very little memory..
[01:17] <troxor> |lostbyte|: dunno if ubuntu has a minimal, but there are tons of minimal cds out there... gentoo's comes to mind
[01:17] <adydas> why is apt-get trying to isntall 2.6.17-10 when i have -11 ?
[01:17] <Sanne> adam_: should be something simple, I guess, like copying the file somewhere perhaps. Good luck :)
[01:17] <adam_> thanks
[01:17] <Sanne> yw
[01:17] <wastedtime> hi everybody
[01:17] <jarn> checkinstall is just a replacement for doing "make && make install" that creates a deb, correct?
[01:17] <|lostbyte|> troxor, yes, i had my eyes on slax.. did you use it?
[01:17] <troxor> |lostbyte|:or something like dsl
[01:18] <BluesKaj> linux looks like it uses a lot of memory but it's mostly cached memory
[01:18] <troxor> |lostbyte|: once upon a time, it had a shoe background by default >.<
[01:18] <|lostbyte|> troxor, i'll looking for something like dsl or slax with is easly installable..
[01:18] <|lostbyte|> which*
[01:19] <wastedtime> i have a mepis and win xp installed as a dual boot configuration , i want to install kubuntu over mepis ..
[01:19] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:19] <mike__> adept better than synaptic?
[01:19] <wastedtime> is it ok if i boot into kubuntu and install directly over mepis
[01:19] <wastedtime> and allow kbuntu to configure the grub loader
[01:20] <jtmoney> !find beryl
[01:20] <ubotu> Package/file beryl does not exist in edgy
[01:20] <mike__> Just installed kubuntu for the 1st time
[01:20] <|lostbyte|> Sanne, forgot to mention, there is no access to the internet.
[01:20] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: oh, that may complicate things. ;) Don't know then, sorry.
[01:20] <jtmoney> hmm, i thought beryl existed
[01:21] <troxor> adydas: mike__ boxers or briefs?
[01:21] <troxor> oops, mike__ *
[01:22] <Sanne> mike__: Welcome! :) I like Synaptic better, but that's just me. Try both, if you want. One thing I like in Synaptic is it keeps an installation history. I don't know if Adept has this feature yet.
[01:22] <wastedtime> i have a mepis and win xp installed as a dual boot configuration , i want to install kubuntu over mepis .. is it ok if i boot using the kubuntu DVD and install directly over mepis
[01:22] <troxor> adydas: hm, try linux-restricted-modules
[01:22] <mike__> Sanne: cheers ,,and what about media codecs?
[01:23] <mike__> mp3 ,,wmv etc
[01:23] <troxor> wastedtime: it would be ugly, imho, it's probably cleaner to wipe the partition (if you have a separate home, save that, of course)
[01:23] <Sanne> mike__: I'll send you a message from the channel bot ubotu about that.
[01:23] <Sanne> !restricted > mike__
[01:24] <mike__> ok,i have just installed herd 4
[01:24] <wastedtime> sure will try that .. thx troxor
[01:24] <MrBallZ> hi, normally how long it takes to packages like KDE 3.5.6 to get to the normal kubuntu repositories ???? it's been almost 3 weeks and nothing ...
[01:24] <mike__> Sanne: ok so just "check" the repo?
[01:24] <troxor> wastedtime: np, gl
[01:25] <xyverz> troxor: hey, thanks for the info about savedefault.  worked like a charm.
[01:25] <Sanne> mike__: hmm, first I would read the wiki page about resticted formats that ubotu talks about ;)
[01:25] <troxor> xyverz: glad to hear it, np
[01:25] <mike__> Sanne: cheers
[01:25] <Sanne> mike__: did you get ubotu's message?
[01:25] <MrBallZ> or ... should I always update my sources.list with the new repos ?
[01:25] <mike__> Sanne: yes thanks
[01:26] <Sanne> mike__: the "restricted" in restricted formats is not identical to the restricted repository (sorry, that's confusing)
[01:26] <|lostbyte|> How about ubuntu text base install ?
[01:26] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: it's great ;)
[01:27] <|lostbyte|> Sanne, using the kubuntu-standard.. ?
[01:27] <|lostbyte|> how do i do that..
[01:28] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: isn't there a so called server installation option? Installs just a base system which you can then build up. Am I right, peoples?
[01:28] <|lostbyte|> there is.. ? !!!
[01:29] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: If I'm not totallay mistaken, I think there is. Let's investigate.
[01:29] <|lostbyte|> alright..
[01:30] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: and I don't mean the official server cd, just to clarify
[01:30] <|lostbyte|> yes, .. i was think more of the boot: option..
[01:31] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: I remember some howto in the forums about setting up a minimal system, installing x server and a minimal window manager like fluxbox. Maybe I find it.
[01:31] <|lostbyte|> oh. ok
[01:33] <SatanMonk> I'm back
[01:34] <SatanMonk> I think I might have a key factor in my tty; jobcontrol problem
[01:34] <breakerz> somebody use ManDVD on dapper ?
[01:35] <SatanMonk> troxor, you still here?
[01:35] <troxor> SatanMonk: yep, what's up
[01:35] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[01:36] <SatanMonk> Well, I tried editing the GRUB, and was using the TAB interface to navigate around.. and found that under /dev I have NO hd___
[01:36] <SatanMonk> no hda
[01:36] <SatanMonk> or anything listed to that degree
[01:36] <|lostbyte|> cool !!
[01:36] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: hehe :)
[01:37] <|lostbyte|> its says "To install a base system, boot from the alternate (install) CD and choose "Install a command-line system."
[01:37] <|lostbyte|> Hope that comes with vim..
[01:37] <|lostbyte|> do you think its in it.. ?
[01:37] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: according to the page, it does (in chapter "When it's done")
[01:37] <troxor> SatanMonk: grub doesn't know what hda is, afaik.. it deals with stuff like (hd0,0).. the /dev/* stuff is mainly populated after the kernel boots, iirc
[01:38] <SatanMonk> sorry
[01:38] <SatanMonk> Do you want to know what was in my kernel line for Grub?
[01:39] <|lostbyte|> nano !! its diff from vim..
[01:39] <troxor> SatanMonk: there's an ext3 filesystem driver for windows, and explore2fs which might help figure out which partition and such contains your /boot dir
[01:39] <troxor> SatanMonk: sure
[01:39] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: "You can do this with vim or nano" ...
[01:40] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: so I think both are in
[01:40] <SatanMonk> kernel /boot/vmlinz2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro simple splashscreen
[01:40] <|lostbyte|> Sanne, I could, but what about the 8 friends of line that never knew linux exsisted..
[01:40] <|lostbyte|> They just follow the book.
[01:41] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: huh? Lost me ;)
[01:41] <|lostbyte|> Sanne, Alright, i will check it out. thanks alot.
[01:41] <SatanMonk> Well, I have two hd's, a SATA 320Gb and a ATA 160Gb, Windowns is on the 320 SATA and Kubuntu is on the 160Gb.
[01:41] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: you're welcome :)
[01:42] <mem> rawr
[01:42] <SatanMonk> So I know that linux is on a completely diffrent HD rather than farting around with partitions
[01:42] <mem> I have them on completely different computers
[01:42] <BluesKaj> the boot dir is usually on the first sector of the HDD
[01:44] <troxor> SatanMonk: weird..
[01:44] <SatanMonk> I've tried leaving it at root= /dev/hda1 and it comes up that ext3filesys cannot find hda1
[01:44] <SatanMonk> in a long about way
[01:44] <BluesKaj> partitions can work very well , but ppl forget that installing windows destroys the grub bootloader
[01:45] <Tm_T> Hi kids.
[01:45] <SatanMonk> I had windows installed first, then I installed Kubuntu
[01:45] <BluesKaj> yup, that's the right way
[01:45] <SatanMonk> I've had THAT problem in the past ;)
[01:45] <nagyv> hello! how can I ask my computer to shut down in an hour?
[01:46] <Algorithme> man shutdown ;)
[01:46] <spitwise> man cron ?
[01:46] <troxor> nagyv: shutdown -t <seconds>
[01:46] <SatanMonk> lol
[01:46] <nagyv> actually I have already tried these, but finally never succeed. Although it seems to be easy.
[01:47] <troxor> nagyv: sleep <seconds> && shutdown -t now ;)
[01:47] <SatanMonk> try typing    shutdown --help   see what paramaters can be done
[01:48] <SatanMonk> lol... I wish I could --help MY problem right now
[01:48] <spitwise> sudo shutdown -t 3600
[01:49] <SatanMonk> any other ideas troxor?
[01:49] <troxor> SatanMonk: what about editing the initrd line in grub? maybe the image is corrupt?
[01:49] <SatanMonk> Hmmm... never thought of that
[01:50] <nagyv> thx, I think shutdown -h 3600 should work, I always missed -h before
[01:50] <SatanMonk> -h?? that's halt
[01:50] <spitwise> oh right
[01:50] <SatanMonk> -t is for timed
[01:51] <nagyv> for halt, as man says first a shutdown event is sent, and without options a maintenance event is given, time is a necessary variable, so no need for the -t switch
[01:51] <spitwise> the man lied
[01:52] <SatanMonk> What is the error giving you when you try to do a -t 3600  ???
[01:52] <nagyv> this: shutdown: time expected
[01:53] <troxor> SatanMonk: also, did you try ctrl+c'ing that message and seeing what happens?
[01:53] <SatanMonk> Yes, but I just get keybord garble
[01:53] <nagyv> -t is an unkown switch
[01:54] <SatanMonk> did you --help the options?
[01:54] <SatanMonk> I got dinner troxor, be right back.. wife's calling me like crazy lol
[01:55] <troxor> SatanMonk: have fun ;)
[01:56] <adydas> how do i install cpp (c preprocessor) that's why you get the /lib/cpp error if apt-get install cpp says its allready installed?
[01:58] <troxor> adydas: what needs this?
[01:59] <adydas> running a ./configure
[02:02] <troxor> adydas: for what package?
[02:07] <SatanMonk> back
[02:08] <SatanMonk> is there anyway to scroll the screen up so I can see the error? every method I used to know isn't working... then again I used to run zsh too
[02:09] <Sanne> SatanMonk: scroll which screen?
[02:10] <SatanMonk> consol screen..
[02:10] <NightBird> hm... I think I'll have to get a differen't kind of apple next time...
[02:10] <Sanne> SatanMonk: try shift-page up/down
[02:10] <SatanMonk> well, I'm  off to see if I can battle GRUB again
[02:11] <Sanne> good luck
[02:12] <SatanMonk> yeah... I need it... lol haven't used linux for 7years and then trying to jump back in again while getting boot problems.. thank god I still remember manual shell commmands... lol
[02:12] <SatanMonk> later
[02:13] <[R] eaper> hi, i need help (again)
[02:15] <[R] eaper> i have just installed the ati.com drivers
[02:16] <[R] eaper> but i got this : " (EE) Module ABI major version (0) doesn`t match the server`s version (1)
[02:16] <[R] eaper> (EE)Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch
[02:16] <surgy> can i use a breezy repo on edgy?
[02:17] <surgy> ?
[02:17] <adydas> [R] eaper: It sounds like your having the same issues as i had with Nvidia drivers
[02:18] <adydas> If it works anything the same the advice i was given was to uninstall any driver you did manually and apt-get nvidia-common ( in your case find the ati version of that ) Hopefully somone here can help more
[02:20] <troxor> [R] eaper: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[02:22] <[R] eaper> i will try that, thx XD
[02:24] <Mena_> i have a problem with the auto packdge mamanger and i forget how to solve it ..the program telling Checking for TCL Scripting Language ... failed
[02:24] <Mena_> any ideai
[02:24] <Mena_> idea*
[02:26] <adydas> Is mplayer a decent audio / vidio player?
[02:27] <troxor> adydas: decent is an understatement, it's awesome ;)
[02:30] <SatanMonk> I'm back
[02:30] <SatanMonk> I've got my error lines too
[02:30] <troxor> surgy: nope
[02:31] <surgy> troxor: ok thnx :(
[02:31] <Mena_> i have a problem with the auto packdge mamanger and i forget how to solve it ..the program telling Checking for TCL Scripting Language ... failed
[02:32] <troxor> surgy: what did you want to do that for?
[02:33] <surgy> troxor: a program i have been trying to get to work has a repo but it is breezy........... i have the source, gonna start compilation now
[02:33] <Sanne> Mena_: can't you install the application with ubuntu's package manager?
[02:34] <Mena_> Sanne, no bec its aMsn .96
[02:34] <bleanna_unux> how can i customize ubuntu to install only the packages i want during setup? i don't want openoffice or the multimedia apps...
[02:34] <SatanMonk> troxor, when you have a min I have the error lines that I get when trying to boot
[02:34] <SatanMonk> if you would like to look at them
[02:34] <troxor> SatanMonk: shoot
[02:34] <SatanMonk> Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom...
[02:35] <BalsamicChicken> Hi, How do i use command line to cd to a folder whose name has spaces in them?
[02:35] <SatanMonk> mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or directory
[02:35] <Sanne> Mena_: ah, and this version is only in feisty, but you want to try it. Right?
[02:35] <SatanMonk> Done.
[02:35] <SatanMonk> mount :Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: no such file or directory
[02:35] <Mena_> Sanne, yes
[02:35] <SatanMonk> mount: Mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: no such file or directory
[02:35] <SatanMonk> Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[02:35] <Mena_> Sanne, i try this befor but i forget to memoriz the steps
[02:35] <SatanMonk> Then that is when it kicks me to prompt
[02:35] <cpk1> BalsamicChicken: tab complete would be easiest or it would be like /home/user/why\ does\ this\ have\ spaces/
[02:36] <Sanne> Mena_: I guess then you need to install the package that ir complains about manually, in this case a package called something like tcl.
[02:36] <cpk1> !minimal | bleanna_unux
[02:36] <ubotu> bleanna_unux: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:36] <Mena_> Sanne, yes its telling me that
[02:36] <Mena_> Sanne, so i must install it
[02:37] <Mena_> Sanne, in fiest do will i need the auto packadge manager
[02:37] <SatanMonk> lol at this point I'm thinking of trying Fiesty Herd 4
[02:37] <Mena_> fiesty*
[02:37] <Sanne> Mena_: feisty has aMsn .96, according to packages.ubuntu.com
[02:38] <Mena_> Sanne, ok but i mean for all
[02:38] <Sanne> Mena_: there's a package called tcl8.4, might be what you need. Try installing it with your usual package manager (adept/synaptic/apt-get/aptitude etc)
[02:39] <Mena_> Sanne, ok
[02:39] <Wiglyworm> Hey, how can I get linux to recognize my wireless card?
[02:39] <bleanna_unux> cpk1: what apt-get command do i use to install the kde base only? kubuntu-desktop will d/l the entire kbuuntu desktop package
[02:40] <cpk1> kde-base =P
[02:40] <Sanne> Mena_: the problem with autopackage is that is not kubuntu's native package manager, so you kind of have to do things manually. Just keep that in mind if you install things in unofficial ways.
[02:40] <SatanMonk> does that tell you anything troxor?
[02:40] <Mena_> Sanne, hmmm ok
[02:40] <BalsamicChicken> cpk1 thx so much for the help with the spaces between folder name thing
[02:41] <BalsamicChicken> cpk1 i was away earlier trying out different th ings, thx
[02:42] <bleanna_unux> cpk1: apt-get install kde-base will only install the kde gui correct. not the uneeded mulitmedia, bluetooth, openoffice, and internet apps packages right?
[02:43] <Mena_> Sanne, Thanks Sanne its working now
[02:43] <cpk1> bleanna_unux: actually it looks like kde-base might not exist on edgy anymore, one second
[02:43] <Sanne> Mena_: hey cool! And you're welcome :)
[02:43] <Mena_> Sanne, :)
[02:44] <Sanne> bleanna_unux: you can check what the package depends on (and will install) at packages.ubuntu.com
[02:44] <troxor> SatanMonk: did hda1 is your root partition, right?
[02:44] <surgy> ok why cant i get the most recent version of libqt3-mt with apt-get?
[02:45] <SatanMonk> yes
[02:45] <Wiglyworm> So.. yeah... i'd love to get on the net with linux, if one of you has a minute.
[02:45] <SatanMonk> just incase I've tried hda and hda5
[02:45] <Sanne> surgy: because ubuntu is a stable distro that gets no version updates during it's half year life cycle.
[02:45] <Wiglyworm> Is there something I can do to get linux to recognize wireless ethernet? ^_^
[02:45] <surgy> sanne: any tips on where to get the latest version?
[02:46] <surgy> !wifi
[02:46] <bleanna_unux> cpk1: thank you
[02:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:46] <Wiglyworm> danke
[02:46] <surgy> sehr gut
[02:46] <cpk1> bleanna_unux: the name changed to kdebase and this is the list of its dependencies http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/kde/kdebase
[02:46] <troxor> SatanMonk: could you remind me, is this edgy or dapper?
[02:47] <Sanne> surgy: hmmm, it might be pretty much work, since it might depend on other qt libs, which in turn are connected to kde libs... but you have two options, search for backported binary packages for your ubuntu version, or compile from source (I woudn't attempt that, though, because of all those interdependencies).
[02:47] <SatanMonk> edgy 64
[02:47] <surgy> sanne: ok
[02:48] <troxor> SatanMonk: and the initrd.img is correct and non-corrupt?
[02:48] <Wiglyworm> hrmmm.. so my network card isn't on the list of supported hardware. Am I boned?
[02:48] <cpk1> Wiglyworm: is it on the ndiswrapper list?
[02:49] <Sanne> surgy: one thing... if you're on edgy, you could try the kubuntu packages from kubuntu.org. They *do* release updates for kde, so maybe there's also libqt-mt?
[02:49] <SatanMonk> yes the image is correct, it doesn't appear to be corrupt, it loads it in the boot up, it's just when it starts to mount images on hda1 they start to fail
[02:50] <Wiglyworm> Uh.. maybe? I went to the page that was linked to me, clicked WifiHowTo, and clicked on the link for the list of supported cards.
[02:50] <mike__> Sound is distorted in Mplayer but not vlc?
[02:50] <surgy> sanne awsome..... thnx ill check
[02:50] <troxor> SatanMonk: you might mwant to give this idea a shot: http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2007/01/msg00369.html
[02:50] <Sanne> surgy: yw
[02:51] <Wiglyworm> If that's an "ndiswrapper list", then no it is not. I'm a huge linux newb, so I can't say for sure.
[02:51] <troxor> SatanMonk: basically, booting your system off a livecd, and updating from there
[02:51] <cpk1> Wiglyworm: what card does lshw say you have?
[02:51] <surgy> sanne: any tips as to where on the website these packages are?
[02:52] <Sanne> surgy: sec
[02:52] <SatanMonk> oh yeah.. I'll read it over... thanks... hey, as well, if it's not salvageable, should I give Fiesty a try?
[02:52] <surgy> sanne: thnx
[02:52] <troxor> SatanMonk: if you want, only on edgy here
[02:53] <Wiglyworm> cpk: I have a Buffalo WLI2-PCI-G54s
[02:53] <SatanMonk> alright.. thanks again troxor
[02:53] <cpk1> who makes that? buffalo?
[02:53] <Sanne> surgy: I can't find the line for your sources.list right now, but you can browse the packages here: http://kubuntu.org/packages/
[02:54] <Wiglyworm> Yes, buffalo.
[02:54] <Sanne> surgy: I wouldn't download them manually, though, because you would have to get all the dependencies manually also.
[02:55] <surgy> sanne: you mean i should be looking for a repo?
[02:56] <cpk1> Wiglyworm: looks like it will work with ndiswrapper
[02:56] <Sanne> surgy: yes, and here you can look what it is: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[02:56] <Wiglyworm> Hmmm, It didn't recognize when I booted up. Is there something special I have to do to get it up and running?
[02:57] <Wiglyworm> Or, I guess, this is where I start reading the guide, huh?
[02:57] <surgy> sanne: isnt that generator dangeros?
[02:57] <Sanne> surgy: don't think so, let me check carefully (at least it spits out the line for kubuntu.org, though)
[02:58] <cpk1> Wiglyworm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 should be pretty straightforward
[02:58] <surgy> sanne: no i mean its not safe for me to use the entire sources.list it makes becuase i have repos i added...... i will lose support for those
[02:59] <Wiglyworm> thanks again
[02:59] <Wiglyworm> Okay.. grumble... one more question...
[03:00] <cpk1> surgy: you just copy paste what you need into your own list
[03:00] <Sanne> surgy: ah, I see. I would just use the line it gives for the kubuntu repositories, and add that one only to your sources.list. There's also something about a gpg key you might want to read (in the generated list). It is safe to let it generate the list, it just gives you a text page in yout browser from which you can cut and paste.
[03:00] <Wiglyworm> That says there are different instructions for the AMD64 version... which is what I'm using. The link is to a blank page, though.
[03:00] <phobiac> I'm trying to install YIM with the "guide" here http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1411
[03:01] <surgy> sanne: which kubuntu repo line whould have the qt package i need?
[03:01] <Sanne> surgy: but, keep in mind, as it tells you, those *are* non standard repositories, so they won't be as stable as the official ones.
[03:01] <Sanne> surgy: I'll check
[03:01] <phobiac> When I try to install version 5.5 (which I assume should work) It gets to the point where it's "updating system configuration" and freezes
[03:02] <phobiac> On the command line I see this:wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\temp\\GLJ1153.tmp" as Win32 binary
[03:02] <surgy> sanne: the program i am compiling isnt exactly stable :) so no concern there
[03:02] <Sanne> surgy: if anything has it at all, I would say "Kubuntu.org bleeding edge KDE". Just check that one and let it generate.
[03:02] <Sanne> surgy: heh
[03:02] <phobiac> Anyone know what to do? :/
[03:03] <agnostic>  anyone using notebook HP 500 CM-350?
[03:04] <Sanne> surgy: those packages also *might* give problems when you want to dist upgrade. best take note which packages you install from those (I would do that, but ok, I'm also kinda paranoid) :)
[03:04] <cpk1> phobiac: did you get ies4linux first?
[03:05] <Mena_> Sanne, sorry there is one more thing require
[03:05] <Sanne> Mena_: which is that?
[03:05] <Mena_> Sanne, its telling me a about GUI Toolkit
[03:05] <phobiac> cpk1: Yes
[03:05] <Sanne> Mena_: what gui toolkit?
[03:05] <Mena_> i dont know ..tk maybe
[03:05] <Mena_> its said that
[03:06] <Sanne> Mena_: what's the exact message (if it's much, please paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[03:06] <Mena_> ok
[03:07] <[R] eaper> ati drivers still no work, help me
[03:07] <LjL> !helpme
[03:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:07] <[R] eaper> (EE) Module ABI major version (o) doesn't match the server's version (1)
[03:07] <[R] eaper> (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
[03:07] <[R] eaper> (EE) No drivers available
[03:07] <[R] eaper> Fatal server error:
[03:07] <[R] eaper> no screens foun
[03:08] <surgy> sanne: i get this public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088 i should be able to fix it with gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys A506E6D4DD4D508   right?
[03:08] <LjL> [R] eaper: is that drivers that you got from the official repos?
[03:08] <Sanne> surgy: there I must admit that I don't know... I never needed to use those keys. Can anybody else help?
[03:08] <[R] eaper> yes
[03:08] <[R] eaper> from ati.com
[03:09] <Mena_> Checking for Tk GUI Toolkit ... failed
[03:09] <surgy> sanne: although its giving me a key error adept updater is nagging about 80 new updates all the sudden.....
[03:09] <LjL> [R] eaper: that's not "official repos"
[03:09] <LjL> it's not even repos to start with
[03:09] <LjL> !ati
[03:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:09] <LjL> !repositories
[03:09] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:10] <Mena_> i try to install tk but its telling me its one another repo but i have multievers and universe enabled
[03:10] <Mena_> one>>>on*
[03:11] <Sanne> Mena_: I don't know that package name for the tk gui toolkit, so let's search together. I'd like to show you how you can do that, ok?
[03:11] <Mena_> OK
[03:11] <Sanne> Mena_: ok, go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and locate the text input box in section "Search package directories"
[03:12] <Mena_> ok
[03:13] <Mena_> ok then search for the package
[03:13] <Sanne> Mena_: now we put into this text box one word (I believe multipe words don't work). As we only know "tk", that's what we will use, but it will give lots of hits. You also should choose your distribution in the drop down field (edgy?)
[03:14] <surgy> sanne: why whould distro updates be effected with bleeding edge kde?
[03:14] <Mena_> yes i am edgy
[03:14] <Sanne> Mena_: ok, then we choose that, and let it search
[03:15] <Mena_> Sanne, i did it but it couldnt find it  With the Tk word
[03:15] <Sanne> surgy: the packages might have other version numbers or some other incompatibilities that might give hickups during an upgrade. Just keep it in mind, so you remember that *if* you should get problems.
[03:15] <Skuller> hey ppl....i am new 2 the linux world and started off with using Kubuntu.....firstly can anyone tell me where i can find MY COMPUTER?
[03:15] <Sanne> Mena_: I get more than 200 hits...
[03:16] <Mena_> i just try this with the name i searched again with desc
[03:16] <Mena_> okay no prob
[03:16] <surgy> sanne: my backup system should stop those complications i think
[03:16] <Sanne> Mena in the result page, you can click on "all" to get all packages on one page, easier to search. I'll do that now  and try to find a tk gui package.
[03:17] <Sanne> surgy: I hope it does. It was just a warning, because lots of users have upgrade problems when they has installed things from unofficial repositories.
[03:17] <Skuller> hey ppl....i am new 2 the linux world and started off with using Kubuntu.....firstly can anyone tell me where i can find MY COMPUTER?
[03:17] <LjL> on your desk?
[03:17] <surgy> sanne: i will just format reinstall and then run a backup
[03:18] <Sanne> Mena_: I have another idea to find it, sec
[03:18] <Skuller> LjL: yea thnx....i meant as in the window where ic an see all my HDD's and my ROM's
[03:18] <Sanne> surgy: that's indeed always poaaible :)
[03:18] <surgy> sanne: thnx for the help i think this might work
[03:18] <Sanne> surgy: you're welcome :)
[03:18] <Mena_> ok
[03:19] <LjL> Skuller: if i recall correctly (my panel isn't a default one), there are three icons on the left of the KDE panel by default. one is the K menu, and one is for places - in the one for places, there should be "Media"
[03:20] <flipstar> muahhahahahahahha wine rockzzz ^^
[03:20] <Skuller> LjL: yea....the MEDIA place has my DVD n CD Drives in it...what about my HDD's?
[03:21] <ForgeAus> ARGH I think I need to reinstall QT Designer, all the wigets are messed up!
[03:21] <ForgeAus> its all black
[03:21] <Sanne> Mena_: ah, I guess I found it. Do you care to learn another trick, or would you just rather I'd tell you the package name?
[03:21] <LjL> Skuller: the HD partition from where Ubuntu is booted isn't shown there, simply because it's the root partition. it's under "Filesystem"
[03:21] <LjL> other HD partitions should be shown, though.
[03:21] <LjL> !windowsdrives
[03:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[03:21] <Mena_> Sanne, no porb i care
[03:21] <Skuller> !fuse
[03:21] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:22] <Mena_> i realt write this things in a text
[03:22] <Sanne> Mena_: ok, can you open a terminal window? konsole for example?
[03:22] <Mena_> ok
[03:22] <Sanne> Mena_: I'll explain first
[03:22] <Skuller> LjL: shud i be able to see my swapspace partition?
[03:22] <Mena_> ok
[03:22] <LjL> Skuller: no... what sense would that make?
[03:22] <LjL> it doesn't contain files
[03:23] <Skuller> LjL: yea it wudnt...but i was just wondering....
[03:23] <Sanne> Mena_: I thought that a gui toolkit that uses the packe tcl8.0 somehow, will have this package as a dependency. Luckily there's a command that shows us the packages that depend on another package. Type the following in konsole: apt-cache showpkg tcl8.0
[03:24] <Mena_> ok
[03:24] <Skuller> LjL: another thing...i downloaded the DVD version of KUBUNTU and installed it half an hour back....i have also tried the CD verision of UBUNTU for a day....what difference is there in the DVD n CD version?
[03:24] <Kr4t05> Is anyone else having that problem with Amarok, where it fails to detect libxine-extracodecs, regardless of the fact that you know it's installed...
[03:24] <Sanne> Mena_: note the packages under "Reverse Depends", those are all packages that need tcl8.0 to run.
[03:25] <angasule> Kr4t05: I trust you have closed amarok and reopened it after installing extra codecs?
[03:25] <Mena_> ok
[03:25] <underdog5004> hey guys, I'm trying to help this guy w/ his lappy over the phone. I'm looking to get his prism 2.5 wavelan chip working...any ideas?
[03:25] <LjL> Skuller: i'm not entirely sure - i mean, DVD has more packages included on the disc of course, but then with the Desktop CD you can't install additional packages from the disc at all, i don't know how it works with the DVD
[03:25] <Mena_> Sanne, i find two thing with tk
[03:25] <Mena_> 3*
[03:25] <Kr4t05> angasule: I had libxine installed for ages, and it worked fine up until 2 months ago.
[03:25] <Sanne> Mena_: now we can quickly look what a certain packae does by typing: apt-cache show <packagename>. Try this command wioth those two tk packages.
[03:25] <LjL> Skuller: at any rate, there will be no difference except that, when you select a package for installation, it will be installed from the internet instead of from the disc
[03:26] <troxor> underdog5004: hostap driver?
[03:26] <underdog5004> ??
[03:26] <underdog5004> what does that mean?
[03:26] <Mena_> Sanne, ok
[03:26] <angasule> Kr4t05: did you update right before it stopped working? (I'm shooting in the dark)
[03:26] <troxor> underdog5004: that's the optimal driver for that chipset, the hostap one
[03:27] <Kr4t05> angasule: Like... Maybe two or three days, but I ruled that out by downgrading.
[03:27] <Kr4t05> That, and no one else I know has the same problem.
[03:27] <Skuller> LjL: u mean to say if i install any package from "ADD/REMOVE" i dont need an internet connection with the DVD?
[03:27] <Sanne> Mena_: sorry, I think I borked. You didn't install tcl8.0, didn't you? Wasn't it tcl8.4?
[03:27] <angasule> Kr4t05: I guess you've reinstalled amarok, purging and reinstalled, etc?
[03:27] <LjL> Skuller: not *any* package, but *some* packages i guess.
[03:28] <Kr4t05> angasule: Exhastively.
[03:28] <Mena_> Sanne, no i did as you told me
[03:28] <Sanne> Mena_: what did I tell you?
[03:28] <LjL> Skuller: i'm not the person to ask tbh, i don't even have a DVD drive :)
[03:28] <Kr4t05> angasule: Do you think that compiling from source would solve it?
[03:28] <Mena_> Sanne, install tcl8.0
[03:28] <Mena_> Sanne, no with 8.4
[03:28] <Mena_> sorry
[03:29] <Skuller> LjL: ohh....well i guess i'll c wich packages are there then...shud make my life a lot simpler since i happen to be on slow broadband
[03:29] <angasule> Kr4t05: no idea, but it'd probably cause conflicts down the line, what about other programs? do they recognize the extra codecs?
[03:29] <Skuller> LjL:  thnx fer ur info
[03:29] <angasule> Kr4t05: for example, kaffeine, does it work fine?
[03:29] <Sanne> Mena_: then we need to do this command first: apt-cache showpkg tcl8.4
[03:30] <Mena_> OK
[03:30] <Sanne> Mena_: that's a bit more to look through ;)
[03:31] <Mena_> heheh yes
[03:31] <Sanne> Mena_: so I'll help now. As we look for some tk gui toolkit, let's check out the package tk8.4, looks promising
[03:32] <Skuller> LjL: yea i managed to get my other partitions to show using the webpage u gave me...thnx
[03:32] <Sanne> Mena_: type: apt-cache show tk8.4
[03:32] <Mena_> Sanne, ok
[03:33] <Kr4t05> angasule: Yes, it plays DIVx, Real, everything.
[03:33] <Kr4t05> angasule: Amarok just fails to play mp3 or ogg.
[03:33] <Sanne> Mena_: see the description?
[03:33] <Mena_> Sanne, yes
[03:33] <angasule> Kr4t05: uh, it fails to play ogg? it should never fail on oggs, I don't think so
[03:34] <Kr4t05> angasule: Then, I should file a bug against it?
[03:34] <Sanne> Mena_: look god, doesn't it? tk toolkit for tcl, graphical, seems like we are lucky, yes?
[03:34] <angasule> Kr4t05: hmm, does amarok play *anything*? wav files?
[03:35] <Kr4t05> angasule: WAV and WMV
[03:35] <Skuller> i have only one floppy drive but it shows 2 drives in my 'media'...one is floppy n other one being floppy0...is this a problem, if yes then how can i fix it?
[03:35] <angasule> Kr4t05: you might ask in #amarok first
[03:35] <Mena_> Sanne, yes so i must install tk8.4
[03:35] <Shaezsche> if i compile a custom kernel, will it still get autoupdated with the latest patches through kubuntu??
[03:35] <Sanne> Mena_: yes, exactly :)
[03:35] <Mena_> Sanne,i did heheh
[03:35] <Mena_> now
[03:35] <Sanne> Mena_: haha
[03:36] <Mena_> Sanne, thats a cool way thanks a lot
[03:36] <Mena_>  :)
[03:36] <Sanne> Mena_: you're welcome :)
[03:39] <Skuller> in my /media it shows "floppy" n "floppy0"......"floppy" seems to be a link to "floppy0"....how can i remove this link since it is unnecessary?
[03:40] <flipstar> @skuller at my /media folder the one drive is an shortcut...
[03:40] <flipstar> so there r just 1 drive
[03:40] <flipstar> and btw who cares
[03:40] <Skuller> flipstar: yes....but why is the shortcut there when the actual thing is also there?
[03:41] <Skuller> flipstar: basically can u help me to remove it?
[03:41] <Sanne> Skuller: I wouldn't change any of those files amd links that are put there by the os. It has a reason that's there.
[03:41] <ForgeAus> hmm kdevelops designer is only C++ :(
[03:42] <ForgeAus> but kdevelop itself isn't
[03:42] <Skuller> Sanne: hmm...ok...since this doesnt bother me that much and has a reason to be there i'll leave this matter alone....
[03:43] <Sanne> Skuller: I could explain to some degree, but I'm just too tired right now... sorry, maybe another day. I'll go to bed now, bye all.
[03:43] <flipstar> bye & gn8 ;):):D
[03:43] <Skuller> Sanne: no probs...thnx for the info nevaiz...gudnite
[03:44] <Sanne> :)
[03:47] <Skuller> how do i make use of my kubuntu DVD in installing packages from IT rather than downloading from the net?
[03:48] <mike__> I had the same prob
[03:48] <flipstar> open the adept manager then goto manage repositories
[03:48] <flipstar> top left
[03:49] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[03:49] <flipstar> but packages from the inet are more up to date (bugfixes security issues)
[03:49] <[R] eaper> help!! (again)
[03:49] <[R] eaper> reaper@reaper-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe fglrx
[03:49] <[R] eaper> FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx
[03:49] <flipstar> so the r to prefer
[03:50] <tier> moin ihr buben
[03:50] <flipstar> tach
[03:51] <tier> anyone a radeon 9600/96000 mobillity?
[03:51] <tier> h anyone a radeon 9600/9700 mobillity?
[03:53] <dennister> hey ppls :) having a problem with networking my voip service & adapter on drydsl line...anyone?
[03:54] <Skuller> flipstar: no luck with the adept manager....there is no 'manage repositories' and theres hardly anything in the lists of softwares either...and whatever is there is greyed out....what do i do?
[03:55] <flipstar> u didnt found the manage repository?
[03:56] <flipstar> its on adept manager then clickk on adept on left top and its just the second entry -_-
[03:57] <Skuller> flipstar: ohh...i was using the ADD/REMOVE thingy....now i am in the MANAGER....yea i see it....
[03:58] <[R] eaper> sudo modprobe fglrx
[03:58] <[R] eaper> FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx
[03:58] <[R] eaper> help please
[03:59] <ForgeAus> whats modprobe?
[04:00] <tier> anyone a radeon 9600/9700 mobillity?
[04:01] <ForgeAus> mine is 9600 but not for laptop/mobility its a desktop
[04:02] <tier> i had no preblems with a 9500
[04:02] <tier> but this is different
[04:02] <tier> its even on windows difficult
[04:03] <[R] eaper> anyone a radeon X1600?? :(
[04:03] <tier> normal ati drivers wont do on windows
[04:03] <tier> and on ubuntu i cant install them too
[04:04] <tier> on windows i use omega
[04:04] <Kr4t05> angasule: Turns out it's more of a general xine problem.
[04:04] <Kr4t05> I'll be a monkey's uncle if I know what, though...
[04:04] <angasule> Kr4t05: ouch :(
[04:05] <tier> or the drivers that have been delivered with the laptop
[04:05] <angasule> Kr4t05: well, your siblings must have some odd habits for that to happen :)
[04:05] <doppelganger_> i've got a quick question
[04:05] <Kr4t05> angasule: That's the thing, I hardly let anyone touch this computer.
[04:06] <doppelganger_> i have a multimedia keyboard, with a volume knob on it. When i turn it, it shows a volume thing moving up and down on screen
[04:06] <doppelganger_> but it doesn't actually turn anything up, or down
[04:06] <doppelganger_> any idea wth that might be
[04:07] <angasule> Kr4t05: I was talking about being a monkey's uncle :D
[04:07] <doppelganger_> i've played with the sound options a lot..  but it just appears to..  i guess not be "bound" to any particular sound volume bar
[04:07] <Kr4t05> angasule: Ah, misread. :P
[04:07] <doppelganger_> i'd like it to control the master sound, which it used to do in kde
[04:07] <doppelganger_> but with gnome it seems useless
[04:08] <flipstar> @doppelganger did u set the main canal to pcm?
[04:14] <esaym> ubuntu dapper kernel changelog is anyone cares: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-28.51/changelog
[04:14] <esaym> I find it interesting
[04:16] <ForgeAus> wow I finally got my ubuntu-minimal back!
[04:16] <ForgeAus> with no complaint!
[04:24] <Skuller> !nvidia
[04:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:24] <Skuller> !update
[04:24] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:24] <Skuller> !ubotu
[04:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:25] <Skuller> !ubotu | Skuller
[04:29] <surgy> so what exactly is this package called "kdebase" ?
[04:29] <surgy> !kdebase
[04:30] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 88 kB
[04:30] <surgy> but which components
[04:33] <glundberg> surgy, kdebase contains all the essential applications for KDE
[04:34] <glundberg> kicker, KDestop, KControl, Konqueror, konsole, etc
[04:39] <Skuller> hey guys how can i use my DVD of kubuntu to install packages from it?
[04:40] <surgy> glundberg: kewl so im getting new versions of them all :)
[04:41] <esaym> whats the trick to be able to view other people's webcams in kopete???
[04:41] <esaym> I search and it seems like I am the only one having the problem
[04:41] <surgy> esaym: lotion..... lol j/k
[04:41] <lotusleaf> Skuller: insert the Kubuntu DVD and it should be available in Synaptic and/or Adept with a refresh AFAIK
[04:42] <esaym> lotion? wtf
[04:43] <surgy> esaym: just a joke man chill.
[04:43] <Skuller> lotusleaf: ohh..ok thnx...i will try it out once the Dept updater has finished patching up my system.....another 4 hours only remaining for the downloads to finish...:D....(damn slow broadband)
[04:44] <esaym> yea but I don't get it.  Like a sex joke or something?
[04:44] <lotusleaf> Skuller: any particular reason why you're using the Kubuntu DVD vs. CD especially if you have broadband?
[04:44] <lotusleaf> Skuller: did you download a nightly or whatever?
[04:45] <Skuller> lotusleaf: Due to my slow broadband i downloaded the DVD version so i dont have to go about waiting for ages to install packsages....but after i installed it i dint noe how to make use of the DVD
[04:45] <Skuller> lotusleaf: nightly?
[04:45] <surgy> esaym:  a webcam cyber thing nvm lol
[04:45] <lotusleaf> Skuller: ya there are daily or nightly isos
[04:46] <lotusleaf> Skuller: but you can also mirror a repo
[04:46] <Skuller> lotusleaf: i dont get what ur trying to say....
[04:46] <lotusleaf> !debmirror > Skuller
[04:46] <esaym> lol I don't cyber
[04:47] <esaym> so no one has a problem viewing yahoo webcams on kopete then I guess??
[04:47] <Skuller> lotusleaf: lol...i dint get a thing the bot just told me
[04:47] <lotusleaf> Skuller: nevermind then, please proceed with your Kubuntu DVD and we'll go from there ;)
[04:47] <Skuller> lotusleaf: sure...thnx m8...
[04:47] <lotusleaf> Skuller: np :)
[04:53] <dennister> hey lotusleaf, know anything about networking?
[04:53] <nomad111> hey all how do i add a certain app to my session startup in kde
[04:53] <Skuller> lotusleaf: i used ubuntu for a day and rememer that while updating the os with patches...the updater used to show an ETA ...but in kubuntu i dont c one...is there a way to find out?
[04:54] <dennister> :) <---------opportunist here
[04:54] <lotusleaf> Skuller: you're using Adept?
[04:54] <lotusleaf> Skuller: I use Synaptic in Kubuntu :) You may use either one
[04:54] <nomad111> adept rules
[04:54] <nomad111> so quick
[04:55] <nomad111> loading and searching
[04:55] <Skuller> lotusleaf: yea i m using adept...how do i get synaptic?
[04:55] <lotusleaf> dennister: ask away and if I don't answer someone else who knows may ;)
[04:55] <lotusleaf> Skuller: install it through Adept and/or sudo apt-get install synaptic from the command line
[04:55] <Skuller> nomad111: is there any way to see the ETA in adept?
[04:55] <nomad111> lemme check
[04:56] <dennister> have tried coupla times in asking...also trying to be patient :) problem: new dslmodem/router, can't get my voip adapter configured in the software
[04:56] <dennister> <-------misses her old router
[04:56] <Skuller> lotusleaf: oh...ok....i'll do dat once i m done with my current updating that finishes in a couple of hours...thnx
[04:56] <lotusleaf> dennister: also try #ubuntu #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntuforums #kubuntu-offtopic until your answer is found ;)
[04:57] <lotusleaf> Skuller: yw
[04:57] <nomad111> Skuller: nope there isnt
[04:57] <dennister> k tried ubuntu...will try others...this has been driving me nuts for a week now
[04:57] <nomad111> lotusleaf: how do i add a certain app to my session startup in kde
[04:57] <lotusleaf> dennister: also ##linux ;)
[04:57] <Skuller> nomad111: oh...das da worst part......well i guess i'll switch to synaptic...thnx fer da help
[04:58] <lotusleaf> Skuller: I use and prefer Synaptic but YMMV :)
[04:58] <dennister> ## networking is dead, and it's not even a linux or ubuntu issue, actually...it's the voip/router software
[04:58] <lotusleaf> dennister: #security ?
[04:58] <Skuller> lotusleaf: k cool...i'll use dat too.....YMMV???
[04:59] <dennister> no, not really a security issue either...have to find out how to nat this device, forward the port...
[04:59] <lotusleaf> Skuller: your milage may vary ;)
[04:59] <Skuller> lotusleaf: lol...yea...prolly...
[05:00] <dennister> was on phone tech support almost all day, but they're all gone home for the weekend now...and i can't wait more days...phone won't work until this is solved
[05:00] <dennister> pretty well all companies are passing the buck to each other
[05:01] <lotusleaf> dennister: if in doubt, forum works it out: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:01] <Skuller> lotusleaf: why are there 2 separate channels for Ubun and Kubun?
[05:01] <dennister> but will try some of the off-topic channels...yes, but i've rarely had any luck there...posted lots of info, rarely any helpful responses
[05:01] <lotusleaf> Skuller: Kubuntu (KDE) & Ubuntu (Gnome)
[05:01] <lotusleaf> Skuller: both deal with seperate unique issues to each
[05:02] <dennister> but thank you lotusleaf, for ur support
[05:02] <lotusleaf> dennister: np gl
[05:03] <Skuller> lotusleaf: oh...yes i knoe abt the diff Desktop environments used in both....i guess ppl need help with the things that the environments change as well....
[05:03] <Skuller> lotusleaf: thnx fer tellin me stuff
[05:03] <lotusleaf> Skuller: there's also #xubuntu and #edubuntu
[05:03] <lotusleaf> Skuller: yw ;)
[05:05] <Skuller> lotusleaf: ohh....wha does Xu specialise in?...i ave herd that Edu is for student-teacher environment n not for the normal desktop user...isnt it?
[05:05] <Skuller> lotusleaf: yw?
[05:05] <lotusleaf> Skuller: you're welcome
[05:05] <lotusleaf> Skuller: check each respective website :) links @ ubuntu.com on right hand side :)
[05:05] <Skuller> lotusleaf: ohh...lol...soz fer actin such a noob man...
[05:05] <surgy> anyone here have an ipod?
[05:05] <lotusleaf> Skuller: everyone's a newbie at some point
[05:06] <Skuller> lotusleaf: k sure...thnx man
[05:06] <Skuller> lotusleaf: hmm...true that....its jus how early and fast u go beyond that point aye
[05:09] <Skuller> lotusleaf: i wanted to play an *.avi file (DivX) using kaffeine....but i cant...do i need a codec for that?
[05:10] <ni-hao777> i have the same trouble
[05:10] <ni-hao777> i wanting it
[05:10] <surgy> !restricted
[05:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:10] <glundberg> download xine-extra-codecs
[05:10] <glundberg> or something similar
[05:10] <scribz> 9
[05:10] <surgy> or vlc
[05:10] <ni-hao777> from where
[05:11] <surgy> sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:11] <chezz99> hello!everyone!
[05:11] <glundberg> adept
[05:11] <surgy> HELLO!
[05:11] <scribz> does kdm do an autologin ?
[05:11] <glundberg> yes it does
[05:11] <Skuller> ohh...how do i enable multiverse n universe repos?
[05:11] <scribz> glundberg: how ?
[05:12] <glundberg> Skuller, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <ni-hao777> i donwloade two but they cant show me the avi files
[05:12] <ni-hao777> i try with the sudo...
[05:12] <ni-hao777> im learninig im try
[05:13] <glundberg> scribz, System Settings -> Advanced -> Login Manager
[05:13] <ni-hao777> came back after thanks
[05:13] <Skuller> Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/sources.list" -- using "application/*"
[05:13] <Skuller> Error: no write permission for file "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:14] <Wiglyworm> hey can I download the ndis wrapper for edgy AMD64 somewhere? I don't have my live CD handy.
[05:14] <Skuller> i get this when i edit it glundberg
[05:14] <surgy> skuller type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal
[05:14] <surgy> skuller uncomment all the repos you want
[05:14] <surgy> skuller you have to open the file as sudo
[05:14] <glundberg> wow
[05:14] <Skuller> surgy: ohh..ok...lemme try
[05:15] <ni-hao777> i did with sudo but i havent vic packcage i need download it
[05:15] <lotusleaf> or sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <glundberg> ni-hao777, you dont need sudo to watch movies....
[05:16] <Skuller> surgy: wht exactly do i do with the page i get after i type in ur command in the terminal?
[05:16] <ni-hao777> ok but i have a movie in avi and tell me al progams like i dont have the codec for it
[05:16] <Wiglyworm> 's that a "no"? :(
[05:16] <jager> do i need to do anything special to enable mp3 support in edgy?
[05:16] <surgy> skuller: a ## is a comment and linux forgets about any lines that start with ## so all the lines starting with something like ##deb need to be just deb understand ?
[05:17] <jager> !mp3
[05:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:17] <glundberg> ni-hao777, go here and read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:17] <joachim_> hi nihao just install VLC it  works most common files
[05:17] <scribz> glundberg: thanks
[05:17] <ni-hao777> thanks
[05:17] <surgy> yeah its vLc not vic
[05:17] <ni-hao777> ok
[05:18] <Skuller> surgy: umm....i see lines with a *.....wait..basically i dont get it
[05:18] <surgy> skuller: look at the lines starting with ##
[05:18] <surgy> skuller: see those?
[05:18] <Skuller> surgy: yea
[05:19] <surgy> skuller: now read through it, it will say stuff like "uncomment the following lines for multiverse" see that?
[05:19] <Skuller> surgy: yea...i do...
[05:19] <glundberg> lol
[05:19] <surgy> skuller: ok now go bellow that to where it is like ##deb blah blah blah
[05:19] <surgy> and remove the ##
[05:20] <Skuller> surgy: it is only *deb blah blah blah...not double **
[05:20] <surgy> it should be # not *
[05:21] <Skuller> surgy: sori...yea it is #...but only single...should i remove the single ones only
[05:21] <Skuller> ?
[05:21] <surgy> skuller remove the # before all the deb
[05:21] <Skuller> ok
[05:21] <surgy> hold on i can give you an example from my sources.list
[05:22] <surgy> skuller here is the line comented "#deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"
[05:22] <glundberg> any cs students here?
[05:22] <surgy> skuller and here it is uncomented "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"
[05:23] <Skuller> surgy: ok i ave done that.....in the "restricted' it was already removed...i removed the ones from 'universe', what about the multiverse ones?
[05:23] <surgy> skuller so remove all the # in front of all of the deb and then press cntrl+o and then cntrl + x
[05:23] <surgy> skuller: i whould suggest you remove all of them
[05:23] <surgy> including the backports
[05:23] <Skuller> surgy:  even the ones from the 'backports'?
[05:23] <surgy> yes
[05:24] <surgy> and then cntrl + O will save it and cntrl + X will exit
[05:24] <Skuller> surgy: ok...done that
[05:24] <surgy> then you must type: sudo apt-get update             to update to sources.list
[05:25] <surgy> if you get any errors or warnings paste them at www.pastebin.com
[05:26] <Skuller> surgy: i am already downloading things in adept updater.....and i also started this.....should i cancel this one?
[05:26] <surgy> skuller: you should never change sources.list while running adept updater
[05:27] <surgy> skuller and you cant sudo apt-get with adept running, you will have to wait till its done
[05:27] <Skuller> surgy: umm....am i spsed 2 say damn....or can i do anything now?
[05:27] <surgy> skuller nothing is broken, just dont do it
[05:27] <Skuller> ohh...
[05:27] <Skuller> surgy: but....how did this start then?...if adept is already running?
[05:28] <surgy> ?
[05:28] <surgy> you mean apt-get update is running?
[05:28] <Mena> How can i scadule my Pc to shutdown in a time i choose
[05:28] <Skuller> yes surgy
[05:29] <surgy> skuller let the sudo apt-get update finish, and close the terminal
[05:29] <Skuller> surgy: ok...
[05:29] <surgy> skuller and then after adept is finished close it, and then your good to go
[05:29] <Mena> friends any idea
[05:30] <jager> i installed a different sound card just now, how do i tell the system to use it?
[05:30] <jager> i have a red X on the mixer in the kicker bar
[05:30] <Skuller> surgy: k cool.....i hope its all done well...thnx fer da info man....
[05:30] <surgy> skuller: np
[05:31] <Skuller> surgy: can u explain me what we jus did?...i mean in regards to that sources list and ctrl-o thingy?
[05:31] <Mena> surgy, how to scaduale my pc to shutdown automaticlay
[05:31] <godvirus> What package contains the man pages for cos/acos/drand48/printf, etc?
[05:32] <godvirus> These man pages are seemingly missing on my kubuntu edgy system
[05:32] <surgy> skuller: sudo gives you super user privs and lets you change everything on the pc, nano is the text editor, and /etc/apt/sources.list is the directory for nano to open...... cntrl+o is just the command for nano to save
[05:33] <jager> i removed and ensoniq audiopci and installed a soundblaster
[05:33] <surgy> skuller: also sources.list is the list of servers that kubuntu looks through to find updates and new software
[05:33] <jager> i thought the system would autodetect it but it doesn't
[05:33] <surgy> mena: i dont know look for a program or use your cmos power settings
[05:33] <surgy> skuller: is that the explaination you wanted?
[05:34] <Mena> surgy,ok
[05:34] <Skuller> surgy: ohhh.....cool....and what did we enable/disable in the repos??....i mean....i noe nothing so jus simply speaking why did i have to enable the universe thingies?
[05:34] <jager> lspci doesn't show any sound hardware
[05:34] <jager> wtf
[05:35] <Skuller> surgy: not exactly but u gave an awesome explanation that i def wanted to know about too...thnx
[05:35] <surgy> skuller: we enabled all of the basic repos for software supported by third party venders canonicle and kubuntu, we also enabled the non free or proprietary repos
[05:35] <surgy> skuller: now you can get games, your video drivers, and tons of others
[05:36] <Skuller> surgy: ohh....and was this the only method to do it?...i mean isnt there any GUI way of doing it?
[05:36] <Skuller> surgy: thas cool
[05:36] <surgy> skuler yes there is a gui way
[05:37] <surgy> skuller: you can go into adept package manager and then click on manage repos
[05:37] <surgy> and you could use kate instead of nano, or any other text editor
[05:37] <Skuller> surgy: ohh...yea but that wont work coz my adept updater is running
[05:37] <surgy> skuller: exactly
[05:37] <surgy> afk for a sec
[05:38] <Skuller> surgy: ok...what exactly is being downloaded in my terminal after i did the apt-get update?
[05:42] <surgy> skuller: it is updateing your entire system, sorta like winxp getting service pack 2
[05:42] <Skuller> surgy: umm.....n what is my adept manager doing then?
[05:42] <Skuller> surgy: i mean wt is it downloading?
[05:42] <surgy> skuller your probably doing the same thing twice
[05:43] <surgy> packages
[05:43] <Skuller> surgy: damn...i m on 128kbps and i am downloading something twice....great...lol...anyway to do anything to change anything rite now?
[05:44] <surgy> skuller: close one...... you might get some shit fucked up, but hey if your in a hurry
[05:45] <Skuller> surgy: lol....i think i'll let them download then...dont want mah fresh install of kubun to get messy in anyway.......
[05:46] <Skuller> surgy: nicee.....mah terminal downloading has finished with the downloading crap......but with errors....
[05:48] <madmatt> what's the fastest vnc viewer?
[05:49] <Skuller> surgy: http://pastebin.com/882805
[05:49] <surgy> looking
[05:49] <Skuller> surgy: if u can please have a look and give me some advice
[05:49] <Skuller> surgy: ok...thnx
[05:51] <surgy> skuller
[05:51] <surgy> see this line: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:51] <Skuller> surgy: yea...is it the adept mupdater?
[05:51] <surgy> it cant "lock" the directory becuase adept is using it
[05:51] <Skuller> surgy: ohh.....so is everything alrite or is it screwed?
[05:52] <surgy> thats why i said you cant update with apt-get untill adept was done
[05:52] <surgy> skuller should be kewl, just close ythe term and chill till adept is done
[05:52] <Skuller> surgy: hmm..true man....
[05:52] <Skuller> surgy: sure thing....will b bak den in another 3 hours or something...thnx a LOT for all the help till now....laterz man
[05:53] <surgy> skuller laterz
[05:54] <surgy> skuller and anytime man
[05:56] <surgy> whats the bash equivalent to ipconfig?
[05:58] <Skuller> surgy: umm...i screwed up man...i closed the 'adept manager' thinkin it wud go away from the taskbar to the system tray....but i think it permanently closed....am i screwed now?
[05:59] <Skuller> surgy: P.S. it was in the middle of downloading updates
[05:59] <Jucato> !adeptfix | Skuller
[05:59] <ubotu> Skuller: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:59] <surgy> skuller: there you go
[06:00] <Skuller> surgy: kill process??
[06:01] <surgy> !adeptfix | skuller
[06:01] <ubotu> skuller: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:02] <surgy> skuller: after you do that forget about  adept
[06:02] <gansinho> please, anyone knows if this repo ( deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ edgy main ) could "harm" my system (sorry the bad english)
[06:02] <surgy> use konsole
[06:03] <shoehornlover> hey ya'll i got a question
[06:04] <Skuller> surgy: hey u noe wat...i have nothing to lose if i just do a fresh install of kubuntu.....should i?....so these problems dont affect me
[06:04] <shoehornlover> i just took windows off my computer and installed kubuntu and i can't seem to get my wifi working
[06:05] <Skuller> shoehornlover: if ur new to linux u shudnt have removed the windows in the first place......dont ask me about the wifi tho
[06:05] <shoehornlover> well i know some about it
[06:06] <SolidSource> shoehornlover: did kubuntu recognize your wifi?
[06:06] <shoehornlover> no
[06:07] <shoehornlover> lspc01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)i says ...
[06:07] <gansinho> ok, I'll try in other way.. maybe it wasn't clear, it is secure to use the source "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ edgy main"  and upgrade mys system?
[06:08] <SolidSource> shoehornlover: this may help http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Modems_.2F_Network
[06:08] <SolidSource> gansinho: by upgrade you are using dapper right now?
[06:10] <SolidSource> gansinho: or do you mean update?
[06:10] <gansinho> SolidSource: yep.. I mean, is it safe to sudo aptitude update with this repo?
[06:10] <gansinho> *upgrade my packages (sorry)
[06:10] <surgy> skuller: dont reinstall thats for pansys :)
[06:11] <gansinho> not dist upgrade, just upgrade the packages
[06:11] <SolidSource> gansinho: yes its part of the main repos http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ will give a complete lise of all the official ubuntu maintain repos
[06:11] <SolidSource> gansinho: and it contains that repo
[06:11] <gansinho> SolidSource: oh thanks a lot! =)
[06:13] <shoehornlover> i have a broadcom 4311 and am using the 64bit unbuntu and have already tried a bunch of ndiswrapper installations
[06:14] <shoehornlover> could it be because i am running the 64bit cause the tutorials never say if it's for the 64bit or not
[06:14] <SolidSource> its possible but doubtful
[06:15] <SolidSource> is it a removable or internal card?
[06:16] <shoehornlover> it's internal
[06:16] <SolidSource> shoehornlover: is it removable or internal card?
[06:17] <SolidSource> ok
[06:17] <shoehornlover> the laptop is a V3010US presario if that helps any
[06:18] <SolidSource> old laptop?
[06:19] <shoehornlover> new
[06:19] <shoehornlover> 6 months or so
[06:19] <SolidSource> hmm
[06:22] <mshade_> what does lspci show it as?
[06:23] <shoehornlover> 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[06:23] <shoehornlover> its a bmc4311 card
[06:23] <surgy> anyone here ever got microsoft's .net framework to work on kubuntu?
[06:24] <esaym> anyway to limit the logfile size in konversation?  freaking logs are like 50mb in size and only 1 month old....
[06:24] <SolidSource> shoehornlover: guess I not any help, I can't find anything on it
[06:25] <shoehornlover> ok thanks for teing though i'll just keep at it
[06:25] <SolidSource> shoehornlover: could try the 32bit version it may work...course I wonder if the wrapper didn't work because you might not have all the IA32 s installed
[06:26] <mshade_> surgy: mono is supposed to be a drop in replacement.
[06:26] <mshade_> i can't testify to its ability, but it's known as the OS equivelant
[06:26] <SolidSource> shoehornlover: heres a site that explains how to manually add a network card https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[06:27] <Lc_945x3> hello, the power management software in kubuntu is limiting my mhz, anybody know how i can go about uncapping my cpu?
[06:27] <surgy> mshade: doesnt help me with the program im running in wine
[06:28] <lotusleaf> surgy: have you tried #winehq ?
[06:28] <surgy> lotusleaf: the program isnt there
[06:29] <surgy> lotusleaf: sorry ill check there, the program isnt on there site
[06:29] <lotusleaf> surgy: no apologies needed ;)
[06:29] <lotusleaf> surgy: also see http://appdb.winehq.org/
[06:30] <surgy> lotusleaf: the appdb is what i was reffering to, the program isnt in the db
[06:30] <SolidSource> !BIN
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <bewl> i cannot get my thumb buttons to work with firefox for the life of me :(
[06:32] <bewl> ive went through every guide step by step
[06:32] <SolidSource> ?
[06:32] <bewl> only to have my mouse wheel scroll through the pages
[06:32] <bewl> instead of the thumb buttons
[06:33] <SolidSource> did you install through adept or compile yourself?
[06:33] <bewl> install what? imwheel?
[06:35] <Retarded_Rican> Can anyone lend me a hand trying to figure out why black on my pc whether on the internet or an imageon the pc itself loops distorted
[06:35] <Retarded_Rican> loops=looks
[06:36] <SolidSource> bewl: ?
[06:36] <bewl> what are you asking that i installed?
[06:37] <Retarded_Rican> Can anyone lend me a hand trying to figure out why black on my pc whether on the internet or an imageon the pc itself loops distorted
[06:37] <Retarded_Rican> loops=looks
[06:37] <Retarded_Rican> I have the nvidia video card
[06:39] <SolidSource> bewl: did you install firefox through adept or compile yourself?
[06:39] <bewl> i installed it through adept
[06:39] <bewl> however
[06:39] <bewl> the thumb buttons on my mouse dont work period.
[06:39] <bewl> they dont ever by default work
[06:39] <bewl> you have to configure it to
[06:40] <SolidSource> bewl: oh...well I don't know, I just a regular mouse
[06:44] <Dr_willis> "Why did you hit me with a Trout?" "Because the mackrel wasent fresh...."
[06:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <snowrichard> hi
[06:50] <Dr_willis> hii
[06:56] <SolidSource> anyone had the problem of kubuntu-desktop being uninstalled when you uninstall the bluetooth crap?
[07:00] <Skuller> hey guys...can anyone help me decide whether i should use Kubun or Ubun?
[07:01] <SolidSource> there really isn't much difference except the interface
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Install one,, then install the OTHER-desktop
[07:03] <Dr_willis> and use both as you see fit.
[07:03] <Dr_willis> I dont see a reason to just use one or the other
[07:03] <Skuller> SolidSource: so which interface do you prefer for a guy who doesnt like crashes, slowups and loves stability in the programs and explorer?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Either one fits those.
[07:04] <Dr_willis> I perfer to mixx and match kde/gnome/other apps as needed
[07:04] <Skuller> Dr_willis: ohh....
[07:04] <SolidSource> Skuller: I like kde since its more pleasing and easier to use...to me
[07:04] <SolidSource> pleasing to the ey
[07:04] <Dr_willis> I use k3b under gnome.. but i find some of the gnome settings tools easier to use.
[07:04] <SolidSource> e
[07:04] <Dr_willis> i also like some of the apps that xubuntu installs
[07:05] <SolidSource> you can install those apps on kde or gnome too though
[07:05] <Dr_willis> I install the whole desktops :)
[07:05] <Skuller> SolidSource: oh...well i like eyecandy too....i guess i'll go with KDE then....and another thing...what is the difference between the DVD version and the CD version of kubuntu?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> i got lots of drive space
[07:05] <Dr_willis> dvd version i THINK does the live cd + the alt install..
[07:05] <Dr_willis> i never bother with the dvd version
[07:05] <SolidSource> Skuller: DVD = less to download
[07:05] <Skuller> Dr_willis: ohh...well i'll stik with one fer the while....thnx fer ur help
[07:05] <Dr_willis> but any install at this time.. will proberly have a bit of initial updates also .
[07:06] <SolidSource> just 160 updates....but yeah
[07:06] <Skuller> SolidSource: but doesnt that make it useless if the packages in it are outdated?
[07:06] <Dr_willis> it means your first apt-get upgrade will grab a lot of stuff
[07:06] <Dr_willis> of course you are talking to a guy that installs all 3 major desktops.. :) so i dont worry about downloading a few gb of updates
[07:07] <Skuller> Dr_willis: if i install from the DVD do i need to do anything further after installation of the OS to get the things from the DVD?
[07:07] <SolidSource> Skuller: not to me, I like to have as possible even if its outdated cause the update can always be had at a later time
[07:07] <Dr_willis> I never use the dvd.. i perfer to get the latest stuff to install from the net.
[07:08] <Dr_willis> im cusious as to what 'extra' packages the dvd would have anyway..
[07:08] <Dr_willis> proberly a file list somewhere on the download site.
[07:08] <Skuller> SolidSource: ok..i think thats a better option then....wil all the softs in the DVD get auto installed when i install the OS?
[07:08] <crystufer> Woot!
[07:08] <crystufer> Got Kubuntu Running in the pc!!!
[07:09] <crystufer> I'm adepting right now.
[07:09] <crystufer> I'm so happy!
[07:09] <SolidSource> Skuller: not all by default, but you could select..
[07:09] <phwickett> hey guys
[07:09] <phwickett> said goodbye to vista
[07:09] <crystufer> gratz
[07:09] <phwickett> crappy OS
[07:09] <phwickett> god damn keys
[07:09] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: is the CD a liveCD or just an install?
[07:09] <Skuller> SolidSource: hwo will i select?
[07:09] <Skuller> how?
[07:09] <crystufer> I hope it was a free trial.
[07:09] <phwickett> anywho
[07:09] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  you can install from the livecd..
[07:10] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  i tend to use the alternative isntall cd.
[07:10] <phwickett> i was wondering if anyone can help me install java and flash
[07:10] <Dr_willis> !java
[07:10] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:10] <Dr_willis> !flash
[07:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:10] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[07:10] <crystufer> lol
[07:10] <phwickett> ive tried
[07:10] <phwickett> im in as rooty
[07:10] <phwickett> root
[07:10] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: so the CD version is a liveCD....now I am currious to what all extra there is
[07:11] <Skuller> SolidSource: yea...u can also install from the cd or the dvd...both act as live as well....even i am curious and want to know whether its worth it
[07:11] <Dr_willis> :)the live cd - last i looked.. included some windows software (gpl) to sort of get windows users interested in the tools..  but i aint checked it out in ages.
[07:11] <Dr_willis> Id just grab the alt-intall cd.. and install that way
[07:12] <Dr_willis> it seems to install faster for me then the livecd
[07:12] <SolidSource> the DVD has some windows stuff on it too
[07:12] <Dr_willis> but its nice to have a livecd or 2, or in my case 20+ around.
[07:12] <Skuller> where to get the alt install cd from?
[07:12] <Dr_willis> the download sites have the various cd's
[07:12] <phwickett> can anyone help me please?
[07:13] <SolidSource> course I got the DVD since I don't like to download cause I have so many problems come about writing my own OS discs
[07:13] <mike__> phwickett: tell all
[07:13] <Dr_willis> phwickett,  whats the actual problem?  i normally just do a 'sudo  apt-get install sun-java5-jre'
[07:13] <phwickett> just trying to install java and flash
[07:13] <SolidSource> ubuntuguide.org
[07:13] <phwickett> they are all on my desktop and ready to install
[07:13] <Dr_willis> and for flash - you enable the backports repo and install the flash-nonfree package (i think)
[07:14] <SolidSource> yep
[07:14] <Dr_willis> you DONT normally just 'download the packages" and install them.. You set up the repos.. and use the package manager to download/install them
[07:14] <mike__> phwickett: enable all repos in synaptic
[07:14] <luca> good day
[07:14] <SolidSource> yes, use package manager...less problems
[07:14] <luca> can someone help me reset the permissions for a ntfs drive?
[07:14] <Crystufer2000> This OS is running so fast!
[07:14] <Dr_willis> luca,  you normally set those when mounting.
[07:15] <Crystufer2000> I just set up a dual boot with windows xp.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> luca,  from the fstab, or the mount command options.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[07:15] <Crystufer2000> This is way faster.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[07:15] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:15] <SolidSource> luca: use the disc manager in Kcontrol and remount the partition
[07:15] <luca> I just used ntfsmount to mount it - did I do a wrong thing?
[07:15] <Skuller> SolidSource: Dr_willis: l thnx guys...i will just install the DVD version of kubuntu and get used to it...this is my first experience with a linux OS....just a last question....how do i go about installing the 'extra' software that is on the DVD?
[07:16] <mike__> phwickett: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-11fb3fe3fa63c12a8fc7dfdd67f21adebc4d8a0b
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Skuller,  fire up the package manager, and start clicking.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Skuller,  of course if it finds updated packages on the net.. it will/should download/install them instead
[07:16] <Skuller> Dr_willis: but wudnt that download from the net instead of gettin it from da DVD?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> as it SHOULD do. :)
[07:17] <Dr_willis> if theres some major security issue.. you would want it to get stuff from the net..
[07:17] <Dr_willis> you got some fetish against downloading stuff?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:17] <SolidSource> Skuller: I'm thinking just use the CD version...I'm thinking the DVD version just has more when using it as a live disc
[07:17] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  i think so also.
[07:17] <Dr_willis> You dont hear much about people using the dvd version
[07:18] <Skuller> Dr_willis: SolidSource: If i install the older version of softs from the DVD and then update them later on through the net will the updating download the whole SOFT again or just an 'update' for it?
[07:18] <mike__> dvd is not needed!
[07:18] <SolidSource> Skuller: dr_willis: the reason I use it cause I paid $3 so I didn't have to download it
[07:18] <mike__> oh ok
[07:18] <Dr_willis> paid $3?  where? sounds like a rip-off to me.
[07:19] <SolidSource> well $1.95 for the DVD + 95 cents for shipping
[07:19] <luca> where should the disc manager be in Kcontrol?
[07:19] <Skuller> mike__: ok...then i will just install the OS from the DVD and then update using the net....
[07:19] <mike__> Feisty Fawn Herd 4,is the 1st kubuntu i have liked
[07:19] <SolidSource> luca: system administration
[07:20] <SolidSource> mike__: how many problems you run into yet?
[07:20] <SolidSource> yet = so far
[07:21] <mike__> SolidSource: i d/loaded an additional 100+ mb and have the complete kde desktop,Yet to find a prob
[07:21] <luca> uhm how would I UNmount the drive now that I have mounted it with ntfsmount command?
[07:21] <SolidSource> mike__: well when I tried it alot problems came about, especially with samba
[07:21] <mike__> ,Installed,java,firefox,opera,frostwire etc etc
[07:22] <mike__> oh interesting
[07:22] <SolidSource> luca: you select the drive and click disable
[07:22] <willy_> #kubuntu-es
[07:23] <SolidSource> mike__: why you like opera...I find it clumsy and bloated
[07:23] <defiant> Can someone help me install wine please
[07:24] <SolidSource> defiant: adept
[07:24] <mike__> SolidSource: in one word,,gestures
[07:24] <defiant> it is not in there
[07:25] <mike__> SolidSource: with mouse gestures it is faster than the fox
[07:26] <SolidSource> defiant:http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Windows_Applications_in_Linux_.28Wine.29
[07:26] <SolidSource> defiant: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Windows_Applications_in_Linux_.28Wine.29
[07:26] <SolidSource> mike__: don't see much use of that
[07:27] <defiant> I have tried that and I get errors, I have a 64bit machine
[07:27] <mike__> SolidSource: i would not be without it
[07:27] <SolidSource> defiant: what error?
[07:27] <SolidSource> defiant: cause I got 64bit too and no problems
[07:28] <defiant> let me get the error again and I will tell you, one sec please SolidSource
[07:28] <defiant> sudo aptitude install wine
[07:28] <defiant> that part does not work for me
[07:29] <SolidSource> defiant: thats because aptitude isn't in KDE...its apt-get
[07:29] <raylu> aptitude is in kde...it should be
[07:29] <defiant> yea I did apt-get
[07:29] <raylu> what error do you get when you use sudo aptitude, defiant?
[07:29] <feffer> !paste
[07:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <SolidSource> well haven't ever had aptitude command work in kde
[07:30] <raylu> I use it all the time. I never use apt-get
[07:30] <defiant> I used apt-get
[07:30] <defiant> i am paste binning the error now
[07:30] <defiant> http://pastebin.com/882838
[07:31] <SolidSource> oh I know why
[07:31] <SolidSource> that repo only has the 32bit version in it
[07:32] <defiant> so what do I do?
[07:32] <SolidSource> well first you got all the ia32s installed?
[07:32] <defiant> I did everything that tut told me to do up until the apt-get install wine
[07:33] <feffer> Hi all, I'm getting failed dvd burns with k3b-- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6192/
[07:33] <feffer> any ideas?
[07:34] <SolidSource> defiant: you will need to install ia32s
[07:34] <defiant> I do not know what that is
[07:34] <SolidSource> defiant: then download the deb file from http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64
[07:34] <defiant> I have that file
[07:34] <SolidSource> k, follow then follow those directions
[07:35] <defiant> I can't get those to work either
[07:35] <SolidSource> you have to install the ia32s first
[07:35] <defiant> the only reason i need it is becaues I cannot get ff32bit with flash working either
[07:35] <defiant> if I can get that working I do not need wine
[07:35] <lotusleaf> defiant: also see #winehq in the future for wine specific questions
[07:36] <SolidSource> defiant: ok, screw wine then
[07:36] <defiant> SolidSourece: Ok lol
[07:36] <SolidSource> defiant: if you don't install ia32 packages you won't have much luck with 32bit programs
[07:36] <SolidSource> defiant: that is why you can't install flash
[07:36] <defiant> how do I know if they are installed?
[07:37] <SolidSource> defiant: they aren't installed by default...the easiest way is to use adept
[07:38] <defiant> SolidSource: Do I install them all?
[07:39] <reldruh> hello. I just downloaded the feisty fawn herd 4 desktop CD and am trying to burn it with k3b but everytime I do it asks me to insert a double layer DVD+R medium into drive. It recognizes the blank CD-R I have in there just fine. Any ideas on how to get this burned?
[07:39] <lotusleaf> reldruh: #ubuntu+1
[07:39] <reldruh> lotusleaf: ah, thank you
[07:39] <lotusleaf> reldruh: yw ;)
[07:40] <SolidSource> defiant: ia32-libs -libs-gtk -libss-kde -libs-openoffice.org -libs-scim -libs-dls
[07:40] <defiant> SolidSource: installing now
[07:40] <mike__> feisty fawn works well,going to be a good release
[07:41] <reldruh> mike__: is k3b 1.0 in it?
[07:41] <SolidSource> mike__: let me know if you get samba working with wins
[07:42] <mike__> reldruh: 0.12.17
[07:42] <mike__> SolidSource: ok will have a play
[07:43] <mike__> SolidSource: i have never needed samba in the past,,not a big window$ fan
[07:43] <surgy> so how is everyone doing tonight?
[07:43] <SolidSource> mike__: I hate windows...but linux sucks on laptops still
[07:44] <ChaosEddie> surgy: blogging about freedom/capitalism/windows etc
[07:44] <surgy> chaoseddie: mind shareing?
[07:44] <mike__> SolidSource: performs well on my new Toshiba?
[07:44] <mike__> with wireless etc
[07:45] <mike__> 1280x800
[07:45] <surgy> mike_: sucks on my 11 year old toshiba :) but what doesnt?
[07:45] <mike__> surgy: Might be a little ,,err underpowered
[07:45] <SolidSource> mike__: hmmm
[07:46] <defiant> these things download slow
[07:46] <surgy> mike_: 400 mhz.... 4 kb video
[07:46] <mike__> SolidSource: I have sidux on my lapy and it rocks
[07:46] <mike__> deul boot with xp
[07:46] <mike__> I don't see xp hehe
[07:46] <SolidSource> mike__: well can't put it on my laptop yet anyway...no SLI support in linux
[07:46] <mike__> true
[07:46] <intelikey> Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
[07:46] <intelikey> [17179572.860000]  pnp: Unable to assign resources to device 00:08.
[07:47] <intelikey> how to find out what 00:08 is ?
[07:51] <intelikey> lspci gives a 0000:00:08.0  0000:00:08.1   0000:00:08.2    so is that where/what it is?
[07:51] <SolidSource> don't know
[07:52] <SolidSource> though I did get that when tried upgrading to fiesty with 3rd party software installed
[07:52] <intelikey> well if so all that is or is on the aic7xxx scsi card
[07:52] <ChaosEddie> surgy: link after im done
[07:53] <intelikey> i guess that's probably what it is.     and  / is on that card so i'll not worry about it
[07:54] <SolidSource> think the only way to upgrade distros is install what current version of it you got on disc then upgrade before installing anything
[07:55] <intelikey> SolidSource or uninstall every thing non-essential then upgrade
[07:55] <intelikey> like the gui for instance
[07:55] <intelikey> xorg is non-essential and if it's not installed it can't cause problems in the upgrade.
[07:56] <surgy> chaoseddie: thnx
[07:56] <SolidSource> yeah, too complicated and could probably take more time than reinstalling from disc
[07:57] <intelikey> not at all.   one for loop  can uninstall all non-essentials   and two commands later you are ready to reinstall what you want.
[07:58] <ubuntu> what is the command to mount a hard drive?
[07:58] <intelikey> mount
[07:59] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media    <<< example only
[07:59] <ubuntu> thought it was more than that
[08:00] <intelikey> mount is the command to mount things   the device node and mountpoint are options to the mount command   and sudo is the command to 'do things as root'
[08:01] <ubuntu> mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:01] <intelikey> i stand by my initial answer    Q. what is the command to mount a hard drive?    A. mount
[08:01] <SolidSource> intelikey why not just tell him to use the "kncontrol >> system admin >> disc manager" to do mount...its so much easier and self explaining
[08:02] <intelikey> SolidSource he didn't ask for a gui app   he asked for a command.
[08:02] <SolidSource> true
[08:03] <SolidSource> should have read question closer
[08:03] <intelikey> and ***tell him to use the "kncontrol >> system admin >> disc manager"***   doesn't seem simpler than  *** mount ***  :)
[08:04] <SolidSource> eh, I try not to use konsole too much, can cause too many problems if you misstype something
[08:05] <SolidSource> oh very funny
[08:05] <intelikey> :)
[08:05] <SolidSource> but thats exactly why
[08:05] <netdu1> I installed kde4base on ubuntu dev, I don't see kde on gdm!
[08:06] <netdu1> I don't see any kde application on ubuntu menu
[08:07] <Jucato> netdu1: you really won't, as you seem to have installed the KDE 4 snapshot
[08:07] <intelikey> netdu1 only kdebase  no kdecore  ?
[08:08] <Jucato> netdu1: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php
[08:09] <intelikey> & kdesktop ?
[08:09] <netdu1> I did not find kde4core, I installed kde4base and kde4lib... that's all what I found
[08:09] <SolidSource> do you have the KDE repos?
[08:10] <netdu1> do you mean this? deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.2/ ./
[08:10] <SolidSource> for 1 yes
[08:10] <netdu1> just added
[08:11] <Jucato> he installed the kde 4 snapshots. there will be no kde apps in the menu, nor will there be a kde session unless he adds them manually
[08:11] <Jucato> as instructed in that link above
[08:11] <SolidSource> makes sense
[08:12] <netdu1> still can't fine kde4core
[08:12] <netdu1> find
[08:13] <Jucato> there is no kde4core
[08:14] <intelikey> is this what you got   kde4base_3.80.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb ?
[08:14] <intelikey> or  kde4base_3.80.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb  ?
[08:15] <netdu1> 3.80.2 yes
[08:15] <Jucato> netdu1: you installed using apt-get right? "sudo apt-get install kde4base"?
[08:15] <Skuller> heyy guys.....i just installed a fresh copy of kubun.....have a lot fo questions...anyone free?
[08:16] <netdu1> yes
[08:16] <SolidSource> skuller sure
[08:16] <Jucato> netdu1: ok... now, have you read the instructions on how to use the KDE 4 snapshots?
[08:16] <Skuller> SolidSource: hey man...cool....firstly i want to be able to read/write to mah NTFS partitions....
[08:16] <intelikey> Skuller no we are all very expensive
[08:16] <Skuller> intelikey: ohh..lol...credit card ne1?
[08:17] <intelikey> !ntfs | Skuller
[08:17] <ubotu> Skuller: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:17] <Alpha_Cluster> wtf is someone in here trying to install KDE4?
[08:17] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | Skuller
[08:17] <ubotu> Skuller: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:17] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: beats me...
[08:17] <SolidSource> Skuller: well theres that answer for ya
[08:17] <crystufer> !beryl
[08:17] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:17] <intelikey> !fuse  | Skuller
[08:17] <ubotu> Skuller: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:17] <Alpha_Cluster> lol well KDE4 is only a dev package doesnt run at all like a actual interface
[08:18] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: I gave him the link w/ instructions, and said a comment or two already... guess it was left unread...
[08:18] <SolidSource> whats with obsession with beryl....
[08:18] <netdu1> Jucato, I'm installing "kde4base-dev" as in instrections
[08:18] <Jucato> netdu1: are you following the instructions on *how* to use it?
[08:18] <Skuller> intelikey: thnx man...just following the first method u said...
[08:19] <Alpha_Cluster> you realize its not guna be a usable environment right?
[08:19] <Jucato> netdu1: also take note: "The second development snapshot of KDE 4 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu Edgy. **These are intended for developers only**."
[08:19] <intelikey> Skuller don't ignore the second and third posts.  specally the second.
[08:19] <intelikey> Skuller page-up as needed.
[08:19] <Skuller> intelikey: ok...i'll chek it out....btw is FUSE safe?
[08:20] <SolidSource> Skuller: writing to a ntfs is never safe
[08:20] <netdu1> yes, I wanna learn about QT4 and kdelibs... "(07:05:48 AM) netdu1: I installed kde4base on ubuntu dev, I don't see kde on gdm!"
[08:20] <intelikey> safe as in safe sex  or save as not out in baseball ?
[08:20] <Jucato> O.o
[08:20] <SolidSource> thats a good question
[08:21] <naught102> I know the solution, but does anyone know WHY colorzilla doesn't work with ubuntu firefox?
[08:21] <Alpha_Cluster> netdu1: what do you mean?
[08:21] <Jucato> safe as in "this statement won't be sensored because of unfriendly words"
[08:21] <SolidSource> how about safe as in "your machine won't explode"
[08:21] <Jucato> netdu1: then, as I have already said earlier, please read the instructions on that page on how to use it
[08:21] <Skuller> SolidSource: it is not safe for the partition or the file or wat??...i mean i DONT want my XP and its files n my data on ntfs gettin screwed up in ANY way....so shud i have write acces or not?
[08:22] <Jucato> Skuller: better not have write access
[08:22] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: gdm/kdm wont magically see kde4  you have to set it up
[08:22] <netdu1> my problem is that I couldn't find "kde" to chose as desktop, now you pointed to http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php it has this "To run it as a full session copy" which will fix my problem
[08:22] <godvirus> What do I need to install so I can see man pages for C functions like printf/cos/drand() etc?
[08:22] <Alpha_Cluster> netdu1: also that package for KDE4 is ment to be run while in KDE3.5
[08:22] <SolidSource> Skuller: ntfs is too fickle to allow write access...
[08:22] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: read the howto on the kubuntu home page
[08:23] <netdu1> I did not know about
[08:23] <caris_mere> I am missing one of the multiverse repositories? Could somebody type it here please?
[08:23] <Skuller> Jucato: SolidSource: ok thnx guys...then i'll just skip on the write access part...cant afford to screw up anything just coz i want to play music from ntfs
[08:23] <SolidSource> mike__: testing opera to see if mouse gestures are worth my time, where do I set em up?
[08:23] <defiant> SolidSource: It is stuck on the jde agreement screen, how do I say ok?
[08:23] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: aah so people magically learn stuff, dude, if you cant follow a simple howto your going to have allot of fun with kde4 unstable
[08:23] <SolidSource> defiant: tab
[08:24] <Alpha_Cluster> lol
[08:24] <intelikey> netdu1 you were told that it's the developement snapshot, it "doesnt run at all like a actual interface"
[08:24] <caris_mere> I only have the multiverse backports. Could somebody give me the other multiverse repository?
[08:24] <defiant> that did not work
[08:24] <SolidSource> defiant: then when "ok" is highlighted "enter"
[08:24] <Jucato> defiant: are you using Adept?
[08:24] <defiant> yes
[08:24] <Jucato> ouch...
[08:24] <Jucato> you have to close Adept... then run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in Konsole
[08:25] <SolidSource> lol java and adept....sorry not to have mentioned this before....they don't get along
[08:25] <netdu1> I did expect kde to add itself to /usr/share/xsessions
[08:25] <intelikey> caris_mere add multiverse to the universe line/s
[08:25] <godvirus> Can anyone else do `man drand48`?
[08:25] <defiant> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:25] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: aah so now ubuntu magically deleted kde3 and puts kde4 "dont use this unless your mental" in your login
[08:25] <defiant> it told me that dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[08:25] <Jucato> netdu1: well it's not. because the KDE 4 snapshots requires a bit more work. hence it's for developers only. it doesn't work like a normal KDE 3
[08:25] <intelikey> caris_mere   deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse restricted
[08:26] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: I think he's installing on top of Ubuntu/GNOME
[08:26] <caris_mere> intelikey: thanks
[08:26] <SolidSource> defiant: you need to kill the adept process
[08:26] <Alpha_Cluster> that doesnt help the matter
[08:26] <Skuller> k guys thnx....ntfs partition read access done...now to my second query.......How do i enale access to all kinds of repositories in  update thingies?
[08:27] <defiant> I do not know how
[08:27] <Skuller> enable*
[08:27] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: trust me, dont use KDE4, its not even finnshed and you may need to have kde3 installed because you may have to swap the kwin engine
[08:27] <Jucato> defiant: have you closed Adept already?
[08:27] <defiant> yes
[08:27] <Jucato> !adeptfix | defiant
[08:27] <ubotu> defiant: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:27] <intelikey> caris_mere most ubuntu repos   standard update security backports... can have all four listings.  restricted main universe multiverse
[08:27] <SolidSource> Skuller: this will give you most repos you need: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[08:28] <Jucato> defiant: "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock" then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:28] <defiant> ok done
[08:28] <Jucato> SolidSource: thankfully, the Adept + Java thing is fixed in Feisty now :)
[08:28] <SolidSource> Jucato: they finally did that? about time
[08:28] <intelikey> caris_mere in fact my sources.list file has only four lines  and that contains all the ubuntu repos.
[08:28] <defiant> now what?
[08:29] <Jucato> defiant: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"? it should finish up the java install
[08:29] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: if your really desperate to watch your desktop crash once an hour go to the kubuntu.org home page and look at the info were it notes kde 4 optional packages
[08:29] <Jucato> defiant: if not, try installing jde again form the command line this time
[08:29] <defiant> it just brought me back to a command prompt
[08:29] <caris_mere> intelikey: Thanks for the lesson. That's helpful
[08:29] <netdu1> Linux_Galore, I'm not installing kde4 to use kde, this is just vmware, I wanna learn about QT4 and kdelib
[08:30] <Alpha_Cluster> netdu1: qt4 is in 3.5.x right now
[08:30] <Jucato> netdu1: if you *really* want to learn about Qt 4, you don't need to install KDE 4, as Qt 4 and Qt 3 can (and already do) live side by side
[08:30] <defiant> jucato: I don't know how and each time I look it up it does not work for me
[08:30] <Jucato> defiant: what's the package name you're trying to install? sun-java5-xxx?
[08:30] <SolidSource> defiant: you need the JRE file
[08:30] <defiant> the one that was in adept
[08:30] <intelikey> caris_mere welcome or don't mock me... which ever that was :)    hard to hear the inflection or see the expression over irc   so one never knows.
[08:31] <Jucato> netdu1: if you really want to learn about KDE 4, then start learning to compile/build KDE 4 from source code
[08:31] <Alpha_Cluster> tru dat
[08:32] <Jucato> netdu1: because the kde4 packages in Kubuntu presume you're already a developer and know your way around already
[08:32] <Skuller> SolidSource: i have created the sources list with my preference of repos in it...now what?
[08:32] <defiant> now my adept won't open
[08:32] <caris_mere> intelikey: I thought that might sound bad, but that was a thanks
[08:32] <SolidSource> defiant: go to java.com download the "Linux (self-extracting file)" and follow those instructions
[08:32] <intelikey> k
[08:32] <Jucato> SolidSource: hm.. no need for that... Ubuntu already has the latest version in -backports
[08:32] <defiant> there are four different ones there
[08:32] <Jucato> defiant: install java from the command line
[08:32] <SolidSource> Skuller: now you can start working on getting things installed....run "sudo apt-get update" or fetch updates button in adept
[08:32] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: thats why it says "dont use these packages unless your a developer", a developer doesnt even need an entry in gdmkdm because he knows he can run multiple desktop session from the virtual terminals
[08:33] <Jucato> defiant: which java are you trying to install? jre or jdk?
[08:33] <Skuller> SolidSource: the sources list is still open in KATE....has it been replaced with the original sources list?
[08:33] <SolidSource> Jucato: never got java working correctly doing it that way....always just manually downloaded the file and installed...works every time
[08:33] <defiant> whatever one was part of the ia32
[08:33] <SolidSource> Skuller: save and cloase it
[08:33] <defiant> I need to get this stuff to work in 32bit firefox on an amd 64
[08:33] <SolidSource> defiant: don't install that
[08:34] <Jucato> hm....
[08:34] <Jucato> !firefox > Jucato
[08:34] <defiant> I thought that is what we where doing SolidSource?
[08:34] <defiant> I need flash to work in FF
[08:34] <defiant> and java
[08:34] <Jucato> !flash64
[08:34] <Skuller> SolidSource: sorry for the fuss....but shudnt i save it somewhere and replace sumthing with it rather than just clickin on 'save'?
[08:34] <SolidSource> defiant: yes but not that one
[08:34] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:34] <defiant> and I am running a 64bit machine
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> defiant: then install them
[08:35] <SolidSource> defiant: the ia32 java is not what you install for java
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> !java
[08:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:35] <Crystufer2000> !beryl
[08:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:35] <SolidSource> Skuller: kate automatically makes a backup in the /etc/apt
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> beryl = desktop suicide
[08:35] <defiant> that link that ubotu game me does not work for me
[08:36] <defiant> the first step fails
[08:36] <Skuller> SolidSource: thnx a lot...i will do the nevessary updating + package installing now....
[08:36] <SolidSource> defiant: these instructions never failed me: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Java_v5.0.11_for_Firefox32
[08:36] <intelikey> kate 'by default' makes backups of files you edit in the same dir as the file, if you have write access there.
[08:37] <Linux_Galore> defiant: did you tell your system what you want the default version of java to be, dont forget Firefox  just looks for the "java" binary, in reality its just a ling to a set version of java
[08:37] <Linux_Galore> link*
[08:37] <defiant> I am lost here
[08:37] <SolidSource> defiant: using apt-get and adept seem to crash or fail
[08:37] <defiant> I am getting different instructions
[08:38] <Linux_Galore> defiant: no this is in the howto, you missed some of it
[08:39] <Linux_Galore> defiant: type  sudo update-alternatives --config java  select your default java version
[08:39] <intelikey> welcome back scott
[08:40] <SolidSource> defiant: linux_galore: if you use the instructions ubuntuguide.org gives, it will work
[08:40] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: I don't think he has java installed at all, it crashed on him
[08:41] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: I know, but most users just install java and then forget to define it as the default
[08:41] <defiant> this step does not work
[08:41] <defiant> gksudo gedit /etc/pango32/pangorc &
[08:41] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: has to have it installed first
[08:41] <Skuller> !amarok | skuller
[08:42] <intelikey> gksudo and gedit are both 'nome apps
[08:42] <intelikey> replace with kdesu kate
[08:42] <Linux_Galore> defiant: wrong distro instructions
[08:43] <defiant> ok
[08:43] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: what are?
[08:43] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: he's trying to use a the ubuntu instructions with gnome commands in kubuntu
[08:44] <defiant> so now what
[08:44] <intelikey> gksudo and gedit are both 'nome apps
[08:44] <intelikey> replace with kdesu kate
[08:44] <intelikey> kdesu kate /etc/pango32/pangorc
[08:44] <SolidSource> defiant: linux_galore: it doesn't matter only do cd ~/Desktop sudo chmod 777 ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin sudo ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin
[08:45] <SolidSource> defiant: linux_galore: it doesn't matter only do cd ~/Desktop sudo chmod 777 ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin sudo ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin
[08:45] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: eer this is Linux not windows and java is in the repo
[08:45] <Skuller> SolidSource: how do i open the sources thingy from the terminal to enable/disable repos?
[08:45] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: fine...just the repo has alway crashed
[08:45] <intelikey> 777 ?
[08:46] <intelikey> 500 :)
[08:46] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: ?? there is more than one mirror
[08:46] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: if apt is broken then run  sudo  dpkg --configure -a    usually fixes it
[08:46] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: no I mean it has caused adept and even using konsole has crashed trying to use repo to install jave
[08:46] <SolidSource> java
[08:47] <SolidSource> Skuller: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:47] <SolidSource> Skuller: just place a # in front of the lines
[08:47] <intelikey> !kdesu
[08:47] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:47] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: eer you dont use adept to install java unless your on feisty 4
[08:47] <defiant> ok well none of these instructions are working for me, I still get errors
[08:47] <defiant> or the commands not found
[08:47] <Skuller> SolidSource: if i place a # they get disabled or enabled?
[08:47] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: again even using konsole commands it fails
[08:48] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: adept cant install java because there is no were for you to agree to the license
[08:48] <SolidSource> Skuller: # = disables
[08:48] <Skuller> SolidSource: i get a big error message.....should i give u the pastebin link?
[08:48] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: strange I admin a whole pile of machines and for some weird reason it always works
[08:48] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: well there is...just have to click "show details"
[08:48] <intelikey> Skuller in most configs   # = ignore the rest of this line        also in most scripts    but there are exceptions.
[08:49] <SolidSource> Skuller: yeah pastebin
[08:49] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: yes but it doesnt always register
[08:49] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: I know and I haven't denied that
[08:49] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: anyway this has been fixed in feisty
[08:50] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: but doing through konsole hasn't worked using apt-get commands either
[08:50] <intelikey> Skuller in the sources.list   # is the comment char.     every thing after a  #  on any given line is ignored by apt
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: tells me apt - jamed run the dpkg  --configure -a  command
[08:50] <Skuller> intelikey: yea thnx....i got that part...but i m gettin an error mssge wen i try to see the sources file
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: put sudo in front of it
[08:51] <ChaosEddie> surgy: BLOG! It only took me 40 hours too. posingaspopular.wordpress.com this is my first *Serious* blog on a *Serious* topic
[08:51] <Skuller> SolidSource: intelikey: http://pastebin.com/882870
[08:51] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: I know all that...done it never worked
[08:51] <intelikey> looking
[08:51] <intelikey> well if the page will load....
[08:51] <crystufer2000> !beryl
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> Im out
[08:51] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:52] <SolidSource> intelikey: skuller: wow
[08:52] <SolidSource> Skuller: what have you done so far?
[08:52] <intelikey> Skuller i told you used kdesu not sudo...   close the console and reopen it.  then   kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:52] <Skuller> SolidSource: what happ?...is it bad?
[08:52] <intelikey> used/use
[08:53] <SolidSource> intelikey: whats wrong with sudo?
[08:53] <caris_mere> in which repository is the libxine-extracodecs?
[08:53] <intelikey> !libxine-extracodecs
[08:53] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[08:54] <surgy> chaoseddie: ok thnx
[08:54] <caris_mere> intelikey: I put in those repositories, but it can't find the libxine-extracodecs
[08:54] <defiant> I have tried 4 different sets of instructions and none of them work
[08:54] <intelikey> did you update caris_mere ?
[08:54] <caris_mere> intelikey: yes
[08:55] <intelikey> caris_mere sudo apt-get update   ?
[08:55] <SolidSource> intelikey: hmm...never had problem
[08:55] <intelikey> SolidSource obviously someone did.
[08:55] <ChaosEddie> everyone in the room is invited to come read it
[08:55] <Skuller> SolidSource: intelikey: http://pastebin.com/882872
[08:55] <SolidSource> defiant: which haven't?
[08:56] <defiant> none of these things work for me to install 32bit firefox and flash
[08:56] <Skuller> SolidSource: intelikey: this is with the kdesu and not sudo....btw in both cases the file does open in kate....but the errors show in the terminal....another thing is that the file does not have the extra repos that i added using the o-matic site u gave me
[08:56] <intelikey> Skuller are you asking how to get rid of those error messages ?
[08:57] <Skuller> intelikey: i m askin why are the error mess there
[08:57] <SolidSource> Skuller: those messages are normal
[08:57] <SolidSource> Skuller: if you don't edit the sources.list with kdesu or sudo...it won't be able to save
[08:58] <SolidSource> defiant: ok time to back track....did you manage to get through all the install of java?
[08:58] <Skuller> SolidSource: ok....and what about the automatic sources list generation site that u gave me....it did not add the repos to my sources file
[08:58] <defiant> no
[08:58] <intelikey> Skuller cause the ubuntu developers decided that it was easier for people to ignore those error messages than for people that have wacon devices to configure xorg.conf so they would work.   in short your xorg.conf is configured for three wacom devices you don't have.
[08:58] <caris_mere> intelikey: sorry, was just a typo
[08:58] <SolidSource> Skuller: thats because you didn't copy and paste them over into the file
[08:58] <dettoaltrimenti_> I'm trying to load some proprietary drivers in kubuntu on a dv6000 hp pavilion laptop. Is there a terminal command where I can see what drivers my ethernet card is using? Is there a command where I can see if my ethernet hardware is even being recognized?
[08:59] <SolidSource> defiant: ok
[08:59] <Skuller> SolidSource: ohh...so u mean i have to open the the file using the terminal first...and then paste and replace the contents of the file from the site generated one?
[08:59] <SolidSource> Skuller: yes
[08:59] <Skuller> intelikey: thank you....that was a releif to know
[08:59] <Skuller> SolidSource: thnx...then i'll do just that
[09:00] <SolidSource> defiant: where have you gotten to?
[09:00] <defiant> nothing because no tutorials are working for me
[09:00] <SolidSource> defiant: I mean how far do you get into the install before it fails
[09:01] <adydas> to mount a smbfs device you use cifs?
[09:01] <defiant> I don't even know which tut to try because neither of them worked with the first step
[09:01] <adydas> mount -F cifs -o username=x,password=y //xthdd/store /store
[09:01] <intelikey> Skuller if you don't mind editing configs  it's not hard to fix those error messages.  but they are not considered 'offically' to be errors, nor dangerous.
[09:01] <SolidSource> defiant: not even ubuntuguide.org?
[09:02] <defiant> no
[09:02] <surgy> does kubuntu by defualt have a software firewall?
[09:02] <SolidSource> defiant: need to know what error messages you are getting
[09:02] <adydas> surgy: yes
[09:02] <SolidSource> surgy: yes, iptables
[09:02] <surgy> adydas: how do i open ports on it?
[09:03] <Skuller> intelikey: then its ok...i wudnt want to mess around with anything that i dont need to at this moment bcoz of my null experience with linux
[09:03] <intelikey> Jucato it's been so long now sense i've see them, what are they again  eraser mouse and what ???
[09:03] <defiant> SolidSource: I did this : sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[09:03] <defiant> and I got this error
[09:03] <defiant> I wasn't able to locate a file for the ia32-sun-java5-bin package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)
[09:03] <defiant> E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[09:03] <surgy> skuller: i fixed those errors and now i feal empty inside :( lol
[09:04] <surgy> !firewall
[09:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:04] <Skuller> surgy: lol
[09:04] <intelikey> Skuller i stand under you.
[09:04] <Skuller> intelikey: thnx man
[09:04] <Skuller> intelikey: n no u dont
[09:05] <intelikey> then what means "understand" ?
[09:05] <SolidSource> defiant: well again...you don't use the ia32-sun-java5 packages
[09:05] <surgy> umm udotu tells me that my firewall is set to inactive by defualt, but i suspect it is blocking a specific port.....
[09:05] <Skuller> ok guys my adept managet aint starting
[09:05] <defiant> I have even tried this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[09:05] <intelikey> means litterally to stand below.  as if to exhalt another.
[09:06] <Skuller> what can i do now?
[09:06] <intelikey> !adeptcrash | Skuller
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <intelikey> err.
[09:06] <surgy> !adeptfix
[09:06] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:07] <SolidSource> defiant: ok for java thats correct....but theres no ia32-sun-java mentioned in there for you to use
[09:07] <surgy> intelikey: can you give me the command to open all ports on my firewall to lan traffic?
[09:07] <defiant> I tried this tut and it did not work either
[09:07] <Skuller> intelikey: ohh....thnx man....fer da exalt part...i do a   lot to u all too
[09:07] <nomad111> hey all how do i beryl-manager to my sesssion startup in kde
[09:07] <niblets> I turned on my computer today, and discovered that Amarok no longer plays MP3, I get the message "Could not load media, (not playable)" when I try to play one. And when Amarok starts, ti say "Amarok can not currently play Mp3"
[09:08] <surgy> nomad111: check #beryl?
[09:08] <nomad111> surgy: im just asking in general actually
[09:08] <nomad111> surgy: how to make certain programs start with each session
[09:08] <ChaosEddie> surgy: did you get a chance to read it? thoghts?
[09:08] <surgy> nomad111: actually i dont understand the question
[09:08] <SolidSource> defiant: here is all that you have to do::: 1. download java from java.com to your desktop 2. cd ~/Desktop 3. sudo chmod 777 ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin 4. sudo ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin
[09:09] <surgy> chaoseddie actually it will be  a while, im having problems with my network
[09:09] <niblets> Any ideas what might cause this, and how I can fix it?
[09:09] <intelikey> surgy heh no.   i'm network illiterate.    but it's something along the lines of  iptables -A eth0 accept all    (i know that's not right. just a jesture in the general dirrection)
[09:09] <SolidSource> err hate how it doesn't allow seperation of lines
[09:09] <surgy> intelikey: thnx
[09:09] <SolidSource> defiant: I'll put it line by line if you want
[09:09] <intelikey> man iptables
[09:10] <defiant> please because i am completely lost
[09:10] <ChaosEddie> surgy: nextwork first. ttyl i think im about to go to sleep.
[09:10] <intelikey> surgy or even better  download and use quicktables
[09:10] <SolidSource> defiant: ok download java to your desktop the linux self-extracting one
[09:10] <defiant> there are 4 there
[09:10] <defiant> do I need the one for 64bit
[09:11] <SolidSource> defiant: no
[09:11] <surgy> chaoseddie: ok seeya laterz
[09:11] <surgy> intelikey is it easier to use?
[09:11] <defiant> rpm or not?
[09:11] <intelikey> surgy it's a pretty cool script that will setup a firewall or help you reconfigure one.  and even has a really handy script "quickblock" to un/block ports/ips/ranges
[09:11] <SolidSource> defiant: non-RPM
[09:11] <defiant> ok downloaded
[09:11] <SolidSource> defiant: this is debian based distro....no RPMs used
[09:12] <surgy> intelikey kewl
[09:12] <SolidSource> defiant: ok type "cd ~/Desktop"
[09:12] <intelikey> surgy put it this way.  i know nothing about networking and i have and can use quicktables
[09:12] <defiant> done
[09:12] <SolidSource> defiant: then "sudo chmod 777 ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin"
[09:12] <defiant> k
[09:12] <SolidSource> defiant: then "sudo ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin"
[09:13] <surgy> intelikey: its kewl im getting pings back and forth now, just gotta work on stability
[09:13] <defiant> done
[09:13] <SolidSource> surgy: you could try firestart or guardog
[09:13] <SolidSource> defiant: it work?
[09:14] <defiant> that finished and said done
[09:14] <SolidSource> surgy: firestarter or guarddog
[09:14] <SolidSource> defiant: ok now, did you install firefox using adept?
[09:14] <defiant> the one that comes installed
[09:14] <mike__> I use synaptic
[09:15] <SolidSource> defiant: so konqueror
[09:15] <mike__> or apt-get
[09:15] <defiant> no
[09:15] <defiant> firefox is installed
[09:15] <SolidSource> defiant: interesting....and odd
[09:15] <mike__> Not on my iso
[09:15] <defiant> it came installed when i installed kubuntu
[09:15] <SolidSource> not for me
[09:15] <mike__> or me
[09:16] <defiant> I don't know i am using it now and I did not install it
[09:16] <SolidSource> defiant: well if it is truly firefox....go into your home folder
[09:16] <mike__> defiant: did you d/load updates?
[09:16] <mike__> when installing?
[09:16] <defiant> no
[09:17] <defiant> my home folder
[09:17] <SolidSource> defiant: go to view >. show hidden
[09:17] <SolidSource> defiant: then into the folder ./mozilla
[09:17] <Jucato> ~/.mozilla
[09:18] <defiant> i am in there
[09:18] <surgy> what whould be some reasons of a windows pc establishing a connection over a lan to a linux pc and then the connection breaking?
[09:18] <SolidSource> defiant: go to the plugins folder...what is in there
[09:18] <intelikey> samba error ?
[09:19] <intelikey> !samba
[09:19] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:19] <defiant> I do not see a plugins folder
[09:19] <SolidSource> defiant: if nothing...thats ok
[09:19] <equinoxeB> hy there...
[09:20] <equinoxeB> ahm... xgl fails to start...
[09:20] <defiant> there is no plugins folder
[09:20] <SolidSource> defiant: ok, thats ok....for now
[09:20] <intelikey> !xgl
[09:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:21] <SolidSource> defiant: oh, just restart firefox completely
[09:21] <caris_mere> In Konsole, how do I show a space that is in a file name?
[09:21] <intelikey> say\ this
[09:21] <intelikey> "or do it this way"
[09:21] <SolidSource> defiant: then go to http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp and test java
[09:21] <intelikey> 'or this'
[09:21] <surgy> intelikey: thnx for quickblock but i got it
[09:21] <Jucato> I think " "
[09:22] <intelikey> surgy np.
[09:22] <SolidSource> defiant: if is verifys then we can get flash installed
[09:22] <caris_mere> thx
[09:22] <intelikey> surgy thought looking in the script might enspire ya.
[09:22] <defiant> nope
[09:22] <defiant> it did not verify
[09:22] <pagux> I am back on public demand
[09:23] <pagux> :-)
[09:23] <defiant> I still have firefox for 64bit installed
[09:23] <intelikey> pagux good.
[09:23] <intelikey> pagux you can take over for me.
[09:23] <surgy> intelikey: i got a lot of crap going right now, trying to figure this problem out, looks like im gonna have to manually create offsets
[09:24] <intelikey> surgy not a lot of fun but probably very enlightening.
[09:24] <SolidSource> defiant: sorry, but unless you installed it, just don't see how that is possible
[09:24] <intelikey> later fellas !
[09:24] <defiant> I did not install it and it is here
[09:24] <defiant> I use it everyday
[09:24] <pagux> intelikey: aviour mon ami
[09:25] <defiant> even one of the tuts say that firefox 2.0 comes with the install of kubuntu
[09:25] <SolidSource> defiant: well.....going to have to say lets uninstall it
[09:25] <surgy> intelikey: i know how to switch between terminal instances (F1 - F4) can i do that with xwindows? maybe alt + F11 ?
[09:25] <defiant> ok for some reason my apt-get will not work at all now
[09:25] <SolidSource> defiant: cause I don't know where it got installed
[09:25] <surgy> got an error?
[09:25] <pagux> is mark shutleworth here ?
[09:25] <defiant> it was there
[09:26] <skullersab> yay!!....the sources list has been changed by me and adept has found it n the packages are there in "ADD/REMOVE" now...time to get started on selecting....thnx a bunch  u guys
[09:26] <SolidSource> defiant: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:26] <defiant> ok
[09:26] <surgy> can someone tell me how to change between xwindows instances?
[09:27] <underdog5004> skullers, adept proved pretty buggy for me, you might wanna try synaptic
[09:27] <underdog5004> !synaptic | Skuller
[09:27] <ubotu> Skuller: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:27] <defiant> now what
[09:28] <SolidSource> defiant: ok, now try to open adept or synaptic...whichever
[09:28] <pagux> hi  folks i am making  make kubuntu clone of Mac OS X called KOS XX
[09:28] <defiant> nope it will not open
[09:28] <pagux> it will have all features of OS X
[09:28] <defiant> http://pastebin.com/882880
[09:28] <pagux> ofcouse Open Source
[09:29] <pagux> http://pagux.com/pics/linuxosx.png
[09:30] <SolidSource> defiant: ok trying to install those ia32 java screwed it up
[09:30] <Skuller> underdog5004: thnx man...even i figured adept is quite buggy and many ppl have 2 use the adeptfix...
[09:30] <staar2> hello
[09:30] <SolidSource> defiant: remove those first
[09:30] <Skuller> underdog5004: i will download adept asap
[09:30] <underdog5004> lol, yeah, I hated it
[09:30] <underdog5004> Skuller, no, synaptic is what you want/need
[09:30] <staar2> i have problems with my kubuntu
[09:30] <Skuller> underdog5004: lol..i meant synaptic
[09:30] <pagux> i plan implement all Mac OS X features
[09:30] <underdog5004> lol
[09:31] <defiant> how?
[09:31] <underdog5004> staar2, what's happening?
[09:31] <defiant> nothigng will open for me to uninstall them
[09:31] <staar2> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2168648#post2168648 -- here typed my problem
[09:31] <SolidSource> defiant: ??
[09:31] <defiant> I cannot uninstall them i cannot do apt-get nor can i open adept
[09:31] <underdog5004> taking a look now
[09:32] <staar2> k thats good and ty
[09:32] <underdog5004> defiant, try sudo apt-get remove --purge package_name
[09:32] <SolidSource> defiant: ok so "sudo apt-get remove ia32-sun-java5-bin" doesn't work?
[09:32] <pagux> Also a Vista  linux implementation  called Kickbista
[09:32] <SolidSource> yeah purge might help
[09:32] <pagux> what ya guys think ;-)
[09:32] <defiant> yea that worked
[09:32] <defiant> no it did not
[09:33] <underdog5004> staar2, I believe there is a gui for that sort of thing...SystemGuard or something like that....or if you like the command line, killall process_name
[09:33] <defiant> Errors where encountered while processing Aborted
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> offbeat@offbeat-desktop:~/kmess-cvs$ make -f Makefile.dist
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> This Makefile is only for the CVS repository
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> This will be deleted before making the distribution
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> *** YOU'RE USING autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.60.
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer
[09:33] <cpk1> aptitude install -f would probably be a good idea too
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> make[1] : *** [cvs]  Error 1
[09:33] <pagux> http://pagux.com/pics/linux.png
[09:33] <oFF-beAt> sorry didn;t realise it was that long
[09:33] <cpk1> the java package is probably hanging defiant
[09:34] <underdog5004> !pastebin | oFF-beAt
[09:34] <ubotu> oFF-beAt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:34] <nomad111> hey again is there desktop picker tool that can be placed on the desktop
[09:34] <Skuller> how do i install synaptic?
[09:34] <SolidSource> pagux: first of all screw anything related to vista....and second, don't want more things to be like mac...
[09:34] <oFF-beAt> underdog5004, sorry abt that i meant to paste 2 line sonly
[09:34] <nomad111> the one in the task bar takes too much space
[09:34] <underdog5004> Skuller, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:34] <underdog5004> Skuller, I believe you need to add some repos first...not sure about that one...
[09:34] <mike__> adept is inept hehe
[09:35] <SolidSource> underdog5004: any ideas on how to get apt-get and adept working again?
[09:35] <nomad111> adept is the best lol
[09:35] <mike__> been a little flakey here
[09:35] <lotusleaf> Skuller: are you serious? I told you how earlier
[09:35] <underdog5004> SolidSource, what kinda problem you got?
[09:35] <SolidSource> adept has its issues just as much as anything else
[09:35] <surgy> underdog5004: whats the macro for changing between instances of X ?
[09:35] <underdog5004> nomad111, no way, synaptic is the best
[09:35] <oFF-beAt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6194/   ok.. someone pls tell me what's wring??
[09:36] <oFF-beAt> *wrong
[09:36] <SolidSource> underdog5004: working on defiants problem
[09:36] <Skuller> underdog5004: yea dw about the repos...i added most of them....
[09:36] <underdog5004> dw?
[09:36] <underdog5004> surgy, I have no idea...sorry
[09:36] <SolidSource> !adeptfix
[09:36] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:36] <Skuller> lotusleaf: lol...told me wat earlier man?...sorri if i forgot...i am panicking most of the time i use linux
[09:37] <nomad111> underdog5004: synaptic doesnt load quick and searching is as quick as adept either
[09:37] <nomad111> underdog5004: at least from my end
[09:37] <nomad111> searching isnt*
[09:37] <adydas> how do you mount a network drive, it says bad file system to a mount -t cifs
[09:37] <surgy> can someone tell me the macro to change between instances of X ?
[09:37] <cpk1> defiant: try sudo dpkg --configure -a if your java package is hanging
[09:37] <lotusleaf> Skuller: when people are kind enough to help you, it helps to be kind enough to pay attention ;)
[09:37] <underdog5004> nomad111, yeah, that's true, in my estimation, but it's solid and won't uninstall half your system (that happened tome w/ adept...had to reinstall)
[09:37] <SolidSource> cpk1: thats not the problem
[09:37] <lotusleaf> Skuller: install it through Adept and/or sudo apt-get install synaptic from the command line
[09:37] <Skuller> lotusleaf: yes man....i am reali sorri about that.....
[09:38] <defiant> back to a command prompt
[09:38] <lotusleaf> Skuller: /msg nickserv help register
[09:38] <cpk1> it sure looks like the java package is hanging...
[09:38] <Skuller> lotusleaf: yea...dw..i got it installed...i m just selecting the packages rite now...
[09:38] <surgy> defiant: terminal*
[09:38] <SolidSource> cpk1: ia32-sun-java5-bin crashed adept while attempting to install...and now can't get it remove since its not needed
[09:38] <underdog5004> defiant, is there an option to see a terminal when removing/installing?
[09:38] <ubuntu_> Hi guys. I'm having trouble with qtparted.
[09:38] <ubuntu_> It won't let me resize an ntfs partition
[09:38] <defiant> I am in terminal
[09:39] <cpk1> yeah, its probably hanging
[09:39] <underdog5004> ubuntu_, why not? what error?
[09:39] <Skuller> REGISTER chochu1989
[09:39] <cpk1> it needs to finish the install
[09:39] <Skuller> umm...why isnt dis fing workin?...da register fing?
[09:39] <underdog5004> defiant, weird...you should see a license when installing...don't know about removing...
[09:39] <Skuller> REGISTER kloo9876
[09:39] <underdog5004> Skuller, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Skuller
[09:39] <cpk1> Skuller: you need to msg nickserv
[09:39] <SolidSource> cpk1: you don't think it will conflict with the java we just got installed
[09:39] <Skuller> ohh
[09:40] <Skuller>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Skuller
[09:40] <cpk1> SolidSource: it needs to finish the previous installation first
[09:40] <Skuller> umm...dint work
[09:40] <Jucato> Skuller: don't put a space before the '/'
[09:40] <Skuller> yea..soz...got that
[09:40] <ubuntu_> the error is: "Opening /dev/sda2 as NTFS failed: Operation not supported"
[09:40] <SolidSource> defiant: ok, lets see if cpk1 is right
[09:40] <Skuller> REGISTER <chochu1989>
[09:40] <SolidSource> defiant: "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre"
[09:41] <Skuller> REGISTER <kloo9876>
[09:41] <Skuller> damn dis fing...now what m i doing rong?
[09:41] <ubuntu_> any ideas?
[09:41] <cpk1> no, dpkg --configure -a
[09:41] <SolidSource> cpk1: tried that
[09:41] <ubuntu_> ..
[09:41] <underdog5004> Skuller, you're acting like a moron who is transliterating his inability to speak.
[09:41] <cpk1> and?
[09:41] <SolidSource> cpk1: still have the problem
[09:41] <surgy> !ntfs | ubuntu
[09:41] <ubotu> ubuntu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:41] <Skuller> underdog5004: lol...yea man...blve me i am one when it comes to this
[09:42] <cpk1> hmm maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:42] <underdog5004> Skuller, lol, not that you _are_ a moron...lol, I don't mean you are at all!
[09:42] <ubuntu_> thanks surgy, but that doesn't help.
[09:42] <Lynoure> Skuller: you are not adding /msg nickserver  to the beginning, I guess
[09:42] <SolidSource> defiant: does "dpkg --configure -a" come up with any errors?
[09:42] <ubuntu_> oh wait... write access.
[09:42] <defiant> this is doing something
[09:42] <ubuntu_> that includes shrinking, eh?
[09:42] <cpk1> dpkg needs sudo btw
[09:43] <SolidSource> cpk1: defiant: what is that that little sudo seems so hard to remember to add in when instructing....
[09:43] <surgy> ubuntu: yes :)
[09:44] <defiant> I am putting sudo in front
[09:44] <SolidSource> defiant: ok
[09:44] <ubuntu_> erythfhfnf
[09:45] <defiant> Setting up sun-java5-bin (1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) ...
[09:45] <ubuntu_> ah sorry, an annoying guy came and attacked my keyboard.
[09:45] <mike__> Nvidia-glx installed ,,impressed
[09:45] <SolidSource> defiant: alright....we in good shape then
[09:45] <ubuntu_> anyway.. so that page tells me how to shrink ntfs partitions with a live cd kubuntu 6.10?
[09:45] <oFF-beAt> pls help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6194/
[09:45] <defiant> ok
[09:45] <SolidSource> mike__: in feisty: that shouldn't have any problems installing
[09:45] <cpk1> like I said...
[09:46] <SolidSource> defiant: ok now remove firefox
[09:46] <surgy> underdog5004: by the way to switch between x instances its cntrl + alt + F7-F12
[09:46] <underdog5004> ah, nice
[09:46] <defiant> removed
[09:46] <Jucato> oFF-beAt: you have autoconf and automake installed?
[09:46] <mike__> SolidSource: very easy,,painless,This rellease of kubuntu is the only one i have liked thus far
[09:46] <SolidSource> cpk1: well I said to do that before...might have missed that line though
[09:46] <Jucato> surgy: minus Ctrl+Alt+F8
[09:46] <oFF-beAt> Jucato, yes i have... the paste bin also shows that...
[09:46] <SolidSource> defiant: ok, now you got 2 options
[09:47] <surgy> jucato: whats F8 do?
[09:47] <defiant> k
[09:47] <Jucato> surgy: it's used by USplash (Ubuntu bootsplash)
[09:47] <SolidSource> defiant: either install firefox through adept/apt-get or get swiftfox (only difference is swiftfox is designed to your system architecture)
[09:47] <Jucato> surgy: so you basically only have F7, F9-F12
[09:47] <Feels_Idiotic> lol
[09:47] <surgy> jucato: any differences between them?
[09:48] <Jucato> surgy: what do you mean?
[09:48] <Defiant> what do I do now
[09:48] <surgy> jucato: they arnt like "run level 1" "run level 2" bs?
[09:48] <Jucato> surgy: nope
[09:48] <surgy> jucato so all are fresh instances?
[09:48] <SolidSource> Defiant: need to know if you want the actual firefox or swiftfox?
[09:49] <Defiant> the actual firefox
[09:49] <Jucato> surgy: you have to manually start them if you need/want to use them.
[09:49] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok, just reinstall using "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[09:49] <surgy> jucato: so F10 by itself wont do it?
[09:49] <SolidSource> Defiant: this should hopefully reset things
[09:50] <Jucato> surgy: nope. it will just give you a blank screen w/ a blinking cursor. switching to it won't start a new X session
[09:50] <larrythecow> !girls
[09:50] <Defiant> done
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <underdog5004> !botabuse
[09:50] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:50] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok go back to java.com and test it again
[09:50] <Defiant> but it is the 64bit firefox
[09:50] <surgy> jucato: then how do i start a new X session that i can switch to?
[09:50] <Defiant> not the 32bit
[09:50] <Skuller> i get this error many times in synaptic.....The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 033431536A423791
[09:50] <Jucato> surgy: you can use the "Start New Session" in the K Menu
[09:51] <Defiant> nope
[09:51] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok there is no 64bit firefox
[09:51] <surgy> jucato: but i need a keyboard macro in order to switch out of my game and back to my server konsole
[09:52] <Defiant> well there is a 32bit one that I know of and then one that is not 32bit that is all I know, sorry
[09:52] <Defiant> that is y I said 64bt
[09:52] <Jucato> surgy: once you start a new X session (or a new terminal session, for that matter), you can Ctrl+Alt+Fn to switch to those sessions, if that's what you were after
[09:52] <SolidSource> Defiant: well then....
[09:53] <surgy> jucato: i will be able to switch then by pressing cntrl + alt + F10?
[09:53] <Jucato> surgy: *if* a new X session is started there already
[09:53] <Skuller> can any1 help me with this error message in synaptic?
[09:53] <Skuller> The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 033431536A423791
[09:53] <surgy> jucato: ok kewl
[09:53] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok go into konqueror and to "/usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/plugins"
[09:54] <SolidSource> Defiant: should see a file named "libjavaplugin_oji.so"
[09:55] <Defiant> yup
[09:55] <Defiant> it is there
[09:55] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok then...screw installing firefox through adept/apt-get
[09:55] <Skuller> how do i start up the synaptic installer....not the package manager?
[09:55] <larrythecow> Does anyone here know about shrinking ntfs?
[09:56] <SolidSource> Defiant: get swiftfox
[09:56] <Defiant> I have a bunch of passes and bookmarks saved in firefox though
[09:56] <SolidSource> Defiant: remove firefox again...its not looking in the right places for plugins
[09:56] <Defiant> will that matter
[09:56] <Defiant> done
[09:57] <SolidSource> Defiant: there is absolutely no difference betweeen firefox and swiftfox...swiftfox is just optimized for specific archs
[09:57] <Defiant> that file disappeared too
[09:57] <Skuller> SolidSource: can you tell me how to startup synaptic installer and not package manager?
[09:58] <SolidSource> Defiant: go to http://getswiftfox.com/debian.htm and downoad your specific processor
[09:58] <SolidSource> Skuller: you installed synaptic through adept/apt-get?
[09:58] <Skuller> SolidSource: yea....i can see the synaptic package manager in my system...
[09:59] <Skuller> SolidSource: but i want the simpler version...the one wich u get if u click add/remove in ubuntu
[09:59] <adydas> !mount
[09:59] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:59] <Defiant> I don't know what is wrong but it keeps opening in kate
[09:59] <adydas> !diskmount
[09:59] <SolidSource> Skuller: umm...thats add/remove here to
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diskmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <adydas> !diskmounter
[09:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:59] <SolidSource> Defiant: you have to right+click and save-as
[10:00] <eh-ef-kay> hello.
[10:00] <Defiant> ok done
[10:00] <Skuller> SolidSource: if i click add/remove here then it opens up adept installer.....but i want to use the synaptic one...not the synaptic package manager tho
[10:00] <SolidSource> Skuller: oh....well that doesn't get installed on here cause this ain't ubuntu
[10:01] <Skuller> SolidSource: does this mean i cant use it at all in kubun?
[10:01] <SolidSource> Skuller: adept is the main install program
[10:01] <Defiant> I do not understand I follow the instructions on the site and it still errors
[10:01] <eh-ef-kay> so i was prompted to update xorg/kernel from 2.6.17-10 to 2.6.17-11 and apon this seems somewhere it lost my xorg.conf is this an isolated issue "seeing as i always keep backups of xorg.conf" or is it a real issue?
[10:01] <Defiant> sudo dpkg --install swiftfox_2.0.0.1-1_athlon64.deb
[10:01] <Defiant> did not work
[10:02] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok right click the file >> kubuntu package menu >> install
[10:02] <Skuller> SolidSource: ohh...well synaptics package manager is quite complicated for me...so i'll just use adept installer then....thnx fer da help
[10:02] <Defiant> k
[10:02] <SolidSource> Skuller: never used ubuntu itself....never ever liked gnome
[10:02] <Defiant> done
[10:03] <SolidSource> Defiant: ok, is that file back in /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/plugins?
[10:03] <Defiant> no
[10:03] <pounce> SolidSource: Kubuntu FTW :)
[10:03] <Defiant> it says it does not exist
[10:03] <oFF-beAt> pls help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6194/
[10:04] <SolidSource> Defiant: give java another test
[10:04] <Skuller> SolidSource: ohh...thas arrite man...thnx
[10:04] <SolidSource> Defiant: if not working, then all we do is go back to how we initially installed java itself
[10:04] <Skuller> SolidSource: another very important thing to clarify man...
[10:04] <Defiant> nope not working
[10:05] <nitram_> ahoj
[10:05] <eh-ef-kay> hmm
[10:05] <SolidSource> Skuller: if you want that installer...you could just install ubuntu and then KDE next to gnome
[10:05] <SolidSource> Defiant: alright, just means need to recreate it
[10:05] <nitram_> mluvi tu nekdo cesky??
[10:05] <Skuller> SolidSource: my mum loves 'spider solitaire' and 'freecell' in windows....is there a substitute for them in kubun?
[10:05] <Skuller> SolidSource: no thas arrite man...i'll jus use adept then
[10:06] <Defiant> do I need to remove it then install it again?
[10:06] <SolidSource> Defiant: no
[10:06] <mike__> Install ubuntu ,,then 'apt-get install kde'
[10:06] <SolidSource> Skuller: they might be in the game package
[10:07] <nitram_> jak tak koukam, tak asi nikdo
[10:07] <Skuller> SolidSource: ok...i'll chek...thnx
[10:07] <SolidSource> Skuller: I know solitar is..but spider solitar not sure
[10:07] <SolidSource> wow...my "i" key not want to work there
[10:08] <SolidSource> Defiant: getting it?
[10:08] <Skuller> SolidSource: ..hm..i dint manage to find either
[10:08] <Defiant> no
[10:08] <Defiant> i don't know what to do
[10:08] <SolidSource> Skuller: in adept type solatair
[10:08] <SolidSource> skuller and if I could spell
[10:10] <SolidSource> Defiant: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6195/
[10:10] <Skuller> SolidSource: no...no results turned up for solitaire...and just after showing me the "No Results" screen...adept installer decided to crash....any ideas?
[10:11] <SolidSource> Skuller: lol no, no ideas...just try and reopen the thing
[10:12] <SolidSource> Defiant: let me know when done with java
[10:13] <Defiant> done
[10:14] <SolidSource> alright file back?
[10:15] <morghanphoenix> Does edgy come with XGL & Beryl, or at least have them in the repos?
[10:15] <Defiant> still no go
[10:15] <Defiant> It still does not work
[10:15] <SolidSource> morgphanphoenix: they are in repos...though they are not suggested for use
[10:15] <SolidSource> defiant holy hell
[10:16] <Defiant> I do not know why
[10:16] <Defiant> but it is not working
[10:16] <morghanphoenix> Hmm, maybe I should switch to gentoo instead, staying the frell away from fedora, redhat and suse though.
[10:17] <Skuller> !codecs
[10:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:18] <SolidSource> Defiant: lets try something crazy
[10:18] <Defiant> k
[10:18] <SolidSource> Skuller: if you need w32codecs ....its not in repos
[10:18] <eh-ef-kay> i'd asume no one can answer my question :!
[10:19] <SolidSource> Defiant: though it consists of me sending you a copy of my java link file
[10:19] <SolidSource> Defiant: oh wait
[10:19] <Skuller> SolidSource: i just need a way to play my mp3, wma, wmv and DivX.....simple way?
[10:20] <SolidSource> Skuller: you'll need w32codecs then
[10:20] <Skuller> SolidSource: and how do i get them?
[10:20] <SolidSource> Defiant: in konsole
[10:20] <Defiant> k
[10:21] <SolidSource> Defiant: cd /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[10:22] <SolidSource> Defiant: is there a file on your desktop called "libjavaplugin_oji.so"?
[10:22] <Defiant> no
[10:22] <SolidSource> Skuller: http://www.debianadmin.com/install-libdvdcss-and-w32-video-codecs-in-debian-and-ubuntu.html
[10:22] <Defiant> and there is no moilla-firefox directory either
[10:23] <SolidSource> Defiant: theres no: /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[10:23] <SolidSource> ?
[10:23] <Defiant> no
[10:24] <SolidSource> how about /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[10:26] <Defiant> no
[10:26] <SolidSource> not possible...
[10:27] <Defiant> it is not there
[10:27] <SolidSource> the file or folder?
[10:27] <Defiant> the mozilla-firefox is not there
[10:28] <Defiant> I have mozilla-thunderbird and that is all
[10:28] <SolidSource> and you installed swiftfox
[10:28] <Skuller> SolidSource: thank you very much...i will get on it as soon as my adept is done....
[10:29] <Defiant> yes
[10:29] <SolidSource> theres something wrong...cause without those folders...I don't know where to put the file
[10:30] <SolidSource> Defiant: how did you install kubuntu?
[10:31] <Defiant> cd
[10:31] <Defiant> firefox was not installed so that folder was not there
[10:31] <Defiant> I just reinstalled firefox and the folder is there now
[10:32] <SolidSource> when installing swiftfox...it should have created those folders
[10:32] <Defiant> i don't know why it did not
[10:34] <SolidSource> Defiant: well I'm completely stumped...if that folder and the file "libjavaplugin_oji.so" are there when you install firefox in adept...then java should work
[10:34] <SolidSource> Defiant: did you install off the alternative CD?
[10:35] <Defiant> I burned a cd
[10:35] <Defiant> the full 600 some odd megs
[10:35] <SolidSource> Defiant: yes, but which...the actual install CD or the alternative CD
[10:35] <SolidSource> ok the actual one
[10:35] <Defiant> actual
[10:36] <SolidSource> well then 1. firefox should not have been installed during system install
[10:36] <Defiant> that file is not in the right directory
[10:36] <Defiant> fire fox is in mozilla-firefox
[10:36] <Defiant> that file is in lib64
[10:36] <Defiant> then firefox
[10:36] <SolidSource> ok...copy that file to those various folders
[10:37] <SolidSource> you'll need to do kdesu konqueror to do so
[10:37] <SolidSource> defiant easy way = alt+F2
[10:37] <Defiant> dude it is in both
[10:38] <Defiant> java plugin is there for Konqueror but not for for ff or swift fox
[10:39] <SolidSource> what? you saying java works in konqueror?
[10:39] <adydas> am i likely to hit issues by putting this into my fstab
[10:39] <adydas> /exthdd/store  /store          cifs   0        0
[10:40] <staar2> where i get network drivers for asus m2n
[10:40] <Defiant> yes it does work
[10:40] <staar2> windows one
[10:40] <Defiant> in Konqueror
[10:41] <SolidSource> Defiant: if so it don't matter, we working on getting it to work in firefox...and if "libjavaplugin_oji.so" isn't in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins and its sister folders
[10:41] <Defiant> it is
[10:41] <Defiant> and it still does not work
[10:41] <cpk1> you know there is a wiki page on getting java to work?
[10:41] <SolidSource> yeah...thats what we followed
[10:42] <cpk1> what arch is this?
[10:42] <SolidSource> Defiant: do "uname -r" and tell us what it says
[10:42] <SolidSource> Defiant: in konsole
[10:42] <cpk1> pretty easy to know if you have 32 bit or 64 bit proc
[10:42] <Defiant> 2.6.17-11-generic
[10:42] <SolidSource> yeah
[10:43] <Defiant> I have a 64bit processor
[10:43] <SolidSource> well thats correct
[10:43] <kraut> moin
[10:43] <Godet> !kaolo
[10:43] <SolidSource> cpk1 we having a problem with firefox not wanting to access the java plugin
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaolo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <adydas> ok, if i put //exthdd/store  /store          cifs   0        0 into fstab it auto detects the network drive and loads it but comes up with a box for a password click ok with nothing in it and it still loads, So how do i get fstab not to ask for that password?
[10:43] <cpk1> you installed it with sun-java5-plugin?
[10:44] <SolidSource> it should be installed
[10:45] <cpk1> did you install sun-java5-plugin?
[10:45] <Defiant> I can't get it installed
[10:45] <SolidSource> yes
[10:46] <SolidSource> thats the file we downloaded from java.com
[10:46] <Defiant> oh ok
[10:46] <cpk1> no!
[10:46] <cpk1> why didnt you use the package?
[10:47] <cpk1> it's there for a reason
[10:47] <SolidSource> because it wasn't working
[10:48] <cpk1> i dont see why it wouldnt work
[10:48] <Defiant> me neither
[10:48] <Defiant> I am lost
[10:49] <Defiant> all of this to get ff with flash wokring
[10:49] <Defiant> and java
[10:49] <Defiant> what if I give one of u remote access...lol
[10:49] <cpk1> no
[10:49] <Defiant> i am tired it is almost 5am here
[10:49] <SolidSource> lol
[10:49] <cpk1> you should have used the package
[10:49] <cpk1> there is no reason why that shouldnt work
[10:49] <Defiant> I do not know what you mean
[10:50] <cpk1> !sun-java5-plugin
[10:50] <Defiant> I downloaded something tried it and it did not work
[10:50] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[10:50] <cpk1> thats what i mean, thats the java plugin
[10:50] <SolidSource> cpk1 ...there is no sun-java5-plugin in the repos for starters...
[10:50] <cpk1> is there a reason you needed se 6?
[10:50] <SolidSource> not using 6.0
[10:51] <Defiant> I just need javaand flash to work in firefox that is all I know
[10:51] <SolidSource> jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin is the file we used to install
[10:51] <cpk1> SolidSource: ... so your telling me its not in multiverse like the bot says?
[10:51] <SolidSource> cpk1: I have multiverse...and I just searched for it...its not there
[10:51] <Defiant> i just tried sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin an it says it is not there
[10:52] <cpk1> Defiant: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:53] <cpk1> you guys are making this much much much harder than it is
[10:53] <Defiant> I ahve tried about four tuts and none of them worked
[10:53] <Defiant> http://pastebin.com/882896
[10:55] <SolidSource> cpk1: see multiverse is there....sun-java5-plugin doesn't exist
[10:55] <cpk1> Defiant: and sudo aptitude update doesnt give any errors?
[10:55] <cpk1> other than wine
[10:56] <Defiant> yea it givesa 404
[10:56] <cpk1> SolidSource: it does exist http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/sun-java5-plugin
[10:57] <cpk1> Defiant: which repo gives a 404?
[10:57] <SolidSource> mine looks almost exactly like his and I get no errors at all
[10:57] <Defiant> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[10:57] <cpk1> thats normal, are you running 64bit?
[10:57] <Defiant> yes
[10:58] <SolidSource> cpk1: just cause that page exists...doesn't mean the file exists
[10:58] <cpk1> SolidSource: feel free to download using the link at the bottom
[10:59] <cpk1> however you guys didnt tell me that this was 64bit
[10:59] <gokula> hi, one question about xgl and beryl, which libGL.so.1 should be used, the fglrx or the mesa one?
[10:59] <SolidSource> cpk1: LOL it was one of the first things we said when you jumped back in
[10:59] <orient2000> Some repositories are down for some reason. I could not get GAIM for example.
[11:00] <cpk1> having a 64bit and running in a 64bit enviroment are different
[11:00] <SolidSource> cpk1: yes I know...I have 64bit
[11:00] <Defiant> I really need to get to bed
[11:00] <Defiant> LoL
[11:00] <cpk1> Defiant: do you already have 32bit firefox installed?
[11:01] <Defiant> no
[11:01] <vegasmcpc> what's up guys
[11:01] <SolidSource> cpk1: he has firefox installed through adept and we even tried swiftfox
[11:01] <gokula> hi, one question about xgl and beryl, which libGL.so.1 should be used, the fglrx or the mesa one?, deas anybody know it?
[11:02] <vegasmcpc> i just installed kubuntu on my media center pc and now whenever i have the volume on at all my left channel has a really high pitched squealing noise coming through it
[11:02] <cpk1> Defiant: i dont have 64bit so I dont have much expierence but http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537 is probably your best bet since most of it is automated
[11:02] <SolidSource> those are the same instructions we followed
[11:02] <Defiant> I tried that too
[11:03] <cpk1> Defiant: and what went wrong?
[11:04] <vegasmcpc> any clue on the sound issue anybody?
[11:04] <Defiant> the whole thing, the automated does not work
[11:04] <Defiant> and the other files and commands give me errors
[11:04] <cpk1> !work
[11:04] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[11:05] <cpk1> it has a manual how-to as well
[11:05] <vegasmcpc> cpk1: , was that directed at me?
[11:05] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: no =)
[11:05] <SolidSource> cpk1: we followed those instructions --just the same as I did on my system and it works--- and it didn't work on his
[11:06] <orient2000> vegasmcpc: check the wires or maybe the driver is asymetric :)
[11:06] <cpk1> then why doesnt he have 32bit ff if he was following the instructions?
[11:06] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: what are you using to output the audio?
[11:07] <vegasmcpc> i was using amarok, just standard onboard audio
[11:07] <till> hi guys, just a short question, what kind of ftp-client are you using? I currently use gFTP, but it's kinda uncomfortable...
[11:07] <cpk1> Defiant: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs lib32asound2 lib32ncurses5 ia32-libs-sdl ia32-libs-gtk gsfonts gsfonts-x11 linux32 did that step fail? if you managed to download all those then where did you start running into problems?
[11:07] <vegasmcpc> using a set of headphones that are known to be good
[11:09] <crystufer2000> !flash
[11:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:09] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[11:09] <crystufer2000> !backports
[11:09] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[11:09] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: normally I would say check the alsamixer settings but it doesnt sound like something that alsamixer would cause...
[11:09] <SolidSource> cpk1: adept installs the 32bit version...atleast according to my adept and he has the same sources.list
[11:11] <atidem> hello
[11:12] <vegasmcpc> alright, noob question, but how do i install something downloaded in .tar.gz
[11:12] <vegasmcpc> namely firefox
[11:13] <SolidSource> cpk1: any more thoughts? cause it makes no sense why it doesn't work
[11:13] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: you need to get build-essential and then unpack it and then compile, or since firefox is in the repos you can just use adept/apt to install it
[11:13] <vegasmcpc> where do i go for build-essential?
[11:14] <dettoaltrimenti_> open Adept Manager, and type in build-essential
[11:14] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: the same place you can get firefox =) new to ubuntu?
[11:14] <vegasmcpc> cpk1: yes
[11:14] <vegasmcpc> cpk1: about a day into it
[11:14] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: most common apps you want you can have automagically installed for you
[11:15] <cpk1> !repos | vegasmcpc
[11:15] <ubotu> vegasmcpc: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:15] <cpk1> that might help explain it to you better
[11:15] <SolidSource> Defiant: sorry we couldn't get this to work....but there must be something different about your system...cause if it installed firefox on its own and such, theres something weird going on
[11:15] <atidem> vegasmcpc: where did you download firefox? mozilla's server?
[11:16] <vegasmcpc> atidem:
[11:16] <vegasmcpc> yes
[11:16] <Defiant> I don't know, one of the tuts I read even said that Firefox is installed by default
[11:16] <vegasmcpc> thanks a lot for the help, guys
[11:16] <cpk1> Defiant: i still think you should read that forum post and follow it to the tee (install 32bit ff like it says and ia32-lib-firefox-amd64)
[11:16] <Defiant> I have tried all tuts I can find
[11:16] <atidem> vegasmcpc: just untar and decompress file
[11:16] <SolidSource> Defiant: well...its not installed by default
[11:16] <Defiant> It was
[11:16] <Defiant> I did not install it
[11:17] <Defiant> it was hre
[11:17] <Defiant> here
[11:17] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: keep in mind for a new user compiling might be very confusing so always try to get a .deb first
[11:17] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc: if you're running kubuntu, under the k-menu go to system- adept manager, and you can get almost any program through that
[11:17] <SolidSource> dpkc defiant: well again, don't know how
[11:17] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: i looked for firefox in there
[11:18] <cpk1> Defiant: I am fairly certain that 64bit comes with 64bit ff
[11:18] <dettoaltrimenti_> it's there
[11:18] <vegasmcpc> there were a bunch of language things, but i didn't see the whole thing
[11:18] <cpk1> !firefox
[11:18] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:18] <Defiant> Yes it did that is what I have been saying
[11:19] <cpk1> Defiant: so have you installed firefox32 and ia32-lib-firefox-amd64?
[11:19] <Defiant> yes
[11:19] <Defiant> and it still does not work
[11:19] <SolidSource> vegasmcpc: you don't need build-essential for the firefox.tar.gz it has a shell script in it to install by
[11:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc: if it doesn't show up, in Adept go to adept->manage repositories.. and right click and "enable" the two lines that say Universe Multiverse, then press apply, then press Fetch Updates, and it should show up
[11:20] <cpk1> Defiant: ok i'm confused at what point did that forum post how-to fail you?
[11:20] <vegasmcpc> ok, big problem
[11:20] <vegasmcpc> i tried installing firefox with adept
[11:20] <vegasmcpc> adept locked up, i forget what the error said
[11:21] <vegasmcpc> now trying to restart adept i get this error
[11:21] <vegasmcpc> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[11:21] <vegasmcpc> if i click ok it simply stops adept
[11:21] <dettoaltrimenti_> open up the terminal and type "apt-get update"
[11:21] <SolidSource> cpk1: again, we even tried swiftfox...yet it don't work in that either
[11:21] <SolidSource> don't forget the sudo
[11:22] <seven11> vegasmcpc: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:22] <cpk1> SolidSource: again "didnt work" is way to vague and I also have no clue if there were any problems along the way or what steps you guys took
[11:22] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah vegasmcpc sorry type "sudo apt-get update" and see if that fixes the problem
[11:22] <SolidSource> cpk1: ok first he tried installing ia32-java package...it crashed adept
[11:23] <vegasmcpc> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[11:23] <SolidSource> cpk1: tried running it in konsole, still no luck
[11:23] <vegasmcpc> oops
[11:23] <seven11> vegasmcpc: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  in terminal
[11:23] <vegasmcpc> : Type 'build-essential' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <SolidSource> cpk1: and yes we did dpkg --configure -a
[11:24] <SolidSource> cpk1: then continued on to follow the how-to
[11:25] <SolidSource> cpk1: when that failed we tried other things
[11:25] <cpk1> did you ever get rid of sun's java?
[11:25] <SolidSource> ia32 should have been uninstalled yes
[11:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> !adept
[11:25] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:25] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: yeah you will want to delete that line =P
[11:25] <SolidSource> ia32 for java****
[11:26] <vegasmcpc> cpk1: how?
[11:26] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: didnt you add it in?
[11:26] <vegasmcpc> yea, in adept
[11:26] <vegasmcpc> can't get into adept
[11:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc: did you do what seven11 said? type "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" in the terminal?
[11:27] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: so in konsole do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:27] <cpk1> or do what dettoaltrimenti_ said ^^
[11:28] <vegasmcpc> ok, adept works again
[11:28] <seven11> :)
[11:28] <SolidSource> cpk1: so....?
[11:29] <cpk1> ?
[11:29] <vegasmcpc> thanks guys...sorry i'm a noob, i'm sure more stupid questions will be coming
[11:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> so vegasmcpc: click on Fetch Updates, then search for firefox and you should find it
[11:29] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: got firefox working now
[11:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc: awesome! I would use adept to get programs as often as possible, it's way easier than the other way
[11:30] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: will do
[11:30] <SolidSource> defiant: do "sudo apt-get remove --purge ia32-sun-java5-bin" to ensure its gone
[11:30] <cpk1> I have a strong distrust of adept =P
[11:30] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: this is only a media center pc...all that it needs to do is run a vnc server, run mplayer, run amarok, and have my huge raid5 array
[11:30] <cpk1> its failed many an install for me
[11:30] <vegasmcpc> lol...i'll be back for help when it comes to setting up the raid5 array
[11:31] <dettoaltrimenti_> ah gotcha
[11:31] <vegasmcpc> out of curiosity, is there a software raid option for linux?
[11:31] <vegasmcpc> because i would much rather do that in case my motherboard dies after the thing is no longer being manufactured
[11:31] <mosul> Hi. I updated the kubuntu but now when is starting is stop whith a single user screen as root. Then I press 'exit' and it continues with normal loading...
[11:31] <vegasmcpc> i know that software raid makes a performance hit, but it's just a fileserver and media player
[11:32] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc yeah just go into adept and type raid
[11:32] <vegasmcpc> sweet
[11:32] <mosul> ... to grafical login. Any idea what's going on?
[11:32] <vegasmcpc> i'm not looking forward to seeing how long this thing is going to take to format all of that
[11:32] <vegasmcpc> 3.75tb usable raid5 arrays are nice, except when formatting them
[11:32] <vegasmcpc> and syncing them
[11:33] <vegasmcpc> then i get the fun of moving 1.8tb of stuff over to it across 100mbps ethernet
[11:34] <cpk1> get gigabit nics they are only $10
[11:34] <vegasmcpc> it's 4am
[11:34] <vegasmcpc> i'm probably going to get one as soon as best buy opens
[11:34] <pmjdebruijn> lo
[11:34] <vegasmcpc> but for right now i might as well get a start
[11:34] <cpk1> well you could just do it tomorrow =)
[11:34] <vegasmcpc> i'm awake, i'm excited to finally have this thing running linux, i wanna work on it now
[11:34] <cpk1> does cat 5 cut it for gigabit connections?
[11:35] <vegasmcpc> yes, cpk1
[11:35] <vegasmcpc> well
[11:35] <vegasmcpc> cat5e does
[11:35] <vegasmcpc> idk about regular cat5
[11:35] <beran> helo
[11:35] <beran> hello
[11:35] <vegasmcpc> hi beran
[11:35] <beran> hi vegasmcpc
[11:36] <beran> It is my first time here...
[11:36] <vegasmcpc> i really need to figure out what is up with this sound driver
[11:36] <cntb> \o where is save sessions in systemsettings
[11:36] <staar2> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2168648#post2168648 -- here typed my problem
[11:36] <vegasmcpc> beran: welcome to the club
[11:36] <beran> Thanks
[11:37] <beran> do you speak French
[11:37] <beran> ?
[11:37] <luciano> can anyone point me to a tutorial to get japanese input working on a english kubuntu?
[11:37] <beran> ???
[11:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> !fr
[11:37] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:37] <gigione> could any1 tell how to install me ati radeon 9600 in kubuntu 6.10 x86_64?
[11:37] <gigione> pls
[11:37] <cpk1> luciano: change the keyboard type?
[11:38] <vegasmcpc> will i have much luck with drivers from asus?
[11:38] <True_Friend> I can not build collection through amaroK i upgraded my system today to latest linux restricted modules after that amarok is giving this error
[11:38] <gigione> any1?
[11:38] <True_Friend> Sorry, the Collection Scan was aborted, since too many problems were encountered.
[11:38] <True_Friend> Advice: A common source for this problem is a broken 'TagLib' package on your computer. Replacing this package may help fixing the issue.
[11:38] <True_Friend> The following files caused problems:
[11:38] <gigione> could any1 tell how to install my ati radeon 9600 in kubuntu 6.10 x86_64?
[11:38] <luciano> not sure what you mean... im using a us keyboard, if that helps
[11:39] <luciano> in windows i am able to change it...
[11:39] <dettoaltrimenti_> staar2: that's no problem, totally normal. Is your computer going slow?
[11:39] <cpk1> True_Friend: try "sudo aptitude reinstall libid3tag0"
[11:40] <cpk1> True_Friend: and "sudo aptitude reinstall libtag1c2a"
[11:41] <gigione> could any1 tell how to install drivers for my ati radeon 9600 in kubuntu 6.10 x86_64?
[11:41] <True_Friend> ok i try
[11:41] <cpk1> !ati | gigione
[11:41] <ubotu> gigione: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:41] <True_Friend> had anyone used latest amarok (on edgy i m)
[11:41] <True_Friend> is it stable?
[11:41] <shinigami> nvidia use glx or aiglx for beryl?
[11:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> True_Friend: it's stable on edgy
[11:41] <shinigami> !ati > gigione
[11:42] <True_Friend> okiez
[11:42] <True_Friend> thnx
[11:42] <cpk1> True_Friend: I am using 1.4.4 with no problems
[11:42] <shinigami> !ati
[11:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:42] <shinigami> gigione: follow tat link
[11:42] <gigione> thanks
[11:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> True_Friend: are you sharing your files via samba/windows?
[11:43] <True_Friend> nops
[11:44] <True_Friend> amarok was just fine
[11:44] <True_Friend> but today latest linux restricted moduels etc i installed and it is creating problem
[11:44] <vegasmcpc> ok, there are linux drivers on asus' website for my sound card, i downloaded them....now what?
[11:44] <cpk1> True_Friend: you try reinstalling those 2 packages yet?
[11:44] <flippy> hi evry1
[11:44] <True_Friend> what two packages?
[11:45] <True_Friend> nops
[11:45] <cpk1> [02:40:27]  <cpk1> True_Friend: try "sudo aptitude reinstall libid3tag0" [02:41:05]  <cpk1> True_Friend: and "sudo aptitude reinstall libtag1c2a"
[11:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc what kind of sound card do you have
[11:45] <flippy> can someone walk me thru how burn an iso file?
[11:45] <True_Friend> i tried first one
[11:45] <True_Friend> it was not install
[11:45] <True_Friend> but did not worked
[11:45] <True_Friend> now i try 2nd one also
[11:45] <ninHer> hi all
[11:45] <premier_> does anyone here know anything about just in time compilers for java?
[11:46] <cpk1> flippy: do you have k3b?
[11:46] <premier_> or java optimization in general?
[11:46] <flippy> yes
[11:46] <vegasmcpc>  	ADI AD1986A Linux Driver for Linux.
[11:46] <flippy> but
[11:46] <vegasmcpc> oops, didn't mean to paste all of that, but i have an adi ad1986a
[11:46] <vegasmcpc> some onboard p.o.s. i guess
[11:47] <cpk1> flippy: easiest way is to right click it go to actions then burn with k3b
[11:47] <vegasmcpc> but my problem is that whenever any sound plays there's a really high pitch squeal coming through
[11:47] <vegasmcpc> and one of you guys recommended to update drivers
[11:47] <vegasmcpc> which makes sense
[11:48] <flippy> i need to do an md5sum
[11:48] <flippy> checksum
[11:48] <flippy> ?
[11:49] <flippy> new to linux...
[11:49] <cpk1> flippy: what are you burning?
[11:50] <phretor> hi there
[11:50] <flippy> xandros professional desktop
[11:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc: go into adept and make sure you have alsa-base installed, then click Full Upgrade then Apply Changes
[11:51] <cpk1> flippy: ok, then you might want to do an md5 checksum to make sure it downloaded correctly
[11:51] <phretor> (I've just switched from Debian to Ubuntu, actually Kubuntu, and I'm quite happy) Why does my distro runs fsck at *every* boot?
[11:51] <flippy> yes ...that is my first problem
[11:52] <flippy> how to do that
[11:52] <cpk1> flippy: you need to get the number from where you downloaded i
[11:52] <cpk1> it*
[11:52] <flippy> have that
[11:52] <vegasmcpc> ok, thanks dettoaltrimenti_
[11:52] <flippy> from xandros ,. com
[11:52] <typecast> phretor: does it find problems when doing fsck?
[11:52] <vegasmcpc> can't at the moment though, adept is updating
[11:52] <phretor> typecast: yes
[11:53] <phretor> typecast: are they logged somewhere?
[11:53] <cpk1> flippy: ok then run md5sum nameofthe.iso and compare the number it gives you to the number xandros gave you, they should be the same
[11:53] <typecast> phretor: no, i don't think so
[11:53] <typecast> phretor: maybe in /var/log/messages. but i don't think so
[11:53] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: it won't let me click full upgrade
[11:53] <phretor> typecast: so what to to? Re-run it again by CL?
[11:53] <maxwel> ho low para todos
[11:53] <flippy> it says to... Open a console window.
[11:54] <cpk1> phretor: you arent worried that fsck is finding errors at every boot?
[11:54] <typecast> phretor: you might want to boot into single user mode and rerun fsck
[11:54] <typecast> phretor: what is CL?
[11:54] <flippy> Type md5sum filename, where filename is the name of the file to check. File names are case-sensitive in Linux.
[11:54] <cpk1> flippy: yeah, open up konsole and do that
[11:54] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: i just had adept run like 120 updates, so that might be why
[11:54] <phretor> typecast: sorry, CL = Command Line :
[11:54] <phretor> cpk1: yes, I am worried
[11:54] <True_Friend> cpk1: same problem i reinstalled both packages but invain
[11:54] <True_Friend> any ideas?
[11:55] <cpk1> phretor: a great tool is SMART, its a hdd diagnostic tool
[11:55] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc: then you have no upgradable packages available. If ALSA is installed, it's the latest release
[11:55] <typecast> phretor: yes, but you have to boot into singe user mode
[11:55] <typecast> phretor: there should be an entry in grub that should do that
[11:55] <phretor> typecast: "recovery mode"?
[11:56] <typecast> phretor: yes
[11:56] <flippy> really not faliar with using console yet
[11:56] <flippy> familiar
[11:56] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: any suggestions on my sound card?
[11:56] <cpk1> flippy: where is the iso located?
[11:56] <phretor> as a side note, I'm quite annoyed by the huge amount of modules that udev loads at boot (modules such as the wifi-driver that I really do not need anytime since it consumes power)
[11:56] <flippy> in a zip file on my desktop
[11:57] <cpk1> flippy: ok so do md5sum Desktop/nameofthe.zip
[11:57] <cpk1> from inside konsole
[11:58] <flippy> 'file:///home/phil/Desktop/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.iso
[11:58] <typecast> phretor: you can block the modules you don't need via /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:58] <cpk1> flippy: oh then it would be md5sum Desktop/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.iso
[11:58] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: the thing is, i have a sound driver from asus...isn't there a way that i can install it?
[11:59] <vegasmcpc> dettoaltrimenti_: what if the alsa driver has some kind of conflict with this particular card?
[11:59] <vegasmcpc> also, how do i install mplayer?  i don't see it in adept
[11:59] <dettoaltrimenti_> vegasmcpc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179322 the solution is near the bottom of the page
[11:59] <cpk1> !mplayer
[11:59] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[11:59] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[12:01] <phretor> typecast: I'd need to umount / before but it is currently busy - any idea?
[12:01] <stimey> can someone help me migrate my gmail to evolution
[12:01] <flippy> 2dffd9fe6173311e857762f3721e398b ok got this number...now i compare to the number they have on website?
[12:01] <typecast> phretor: try "mount -o remount,ro /"
[12:01] <cpk1> phretor: easiest way to force a fsck is to use tune2fs
[12:01] <cpk1> flippy: yes, they should be the same
[12:02] <flippy> ok brb
[12:02] <typecast> phretor: if you did that you can savely perform the fsck
[12:02] <phretor> cpk1: I actually dislike to "force" something :)
[12:02] <beran> Could you say me how I can install fireFox and verify-it?
[12:02] <typecast> phretor: if it still complains perform fsck -f /dev/partition
[12:02] <vegasmcpc> damn...i did not want to see update bios in the necessary steps...i don't even own a floppy drive
[12:02] <vegasmcpc> erm
[12:02] <vegasmcpc> i have a drive
[12:02] <vegasmcpc> just no disks
[12:02] <cpk1> phretor: well thats what you are doing right now =)
[12:02] <phretor> cpk1: :-\
[12:03] <typecast> phretor: but never do a fsck on a partition that it is mounted read-write
[12:03] <cpk1> phretor: ext3 usually does a fsck every 30 mounts, use tune2fs to set the mount count to 99, then it will fsck on the next reboot
[12:03] <beran> ooo
[12:03] <phretor> anyway I'm getting this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2061145
[12:03] <vegasmcpc> this was one of the steps: -Put "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack" to "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base".
[12:04] <vegasmcpc> how would i go about doing that?
[12:05] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:06] <dettoaltrimenti_> my wireless card, eth1, is showing up in network settings, but I'm unable to enable it. I'm on a HP pavilion dv6000 laptop. Any help?
[12:06] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: sudo ifup eth1 work?
[12:08] <vegasmcpc> so i just add the stuff in the first set of quotes onto the end of the file?
[12:08] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1 ifup: interface eth1 already configured
[12:08] <phretor> I did `mount -o remount,ro /` but it replies me with "mount: / is busy"
[12:09] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: iwlist eth1 scan give any results?
[12:09] <cpk1> phretor: tune2fs -C 99 is an easy way to do fsck and is safe =)
[12:10] <cpk1> phretor: of course you will have to reboot
[12:10] <vegasmcpc> i got this error when trying to save
[12:10] <vegasmcpc> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.
[12:10] <vegasmcpc> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[12:10] <phretor> cpk1: nice
[12:10] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: you did kdesu kate?
[12:10] <phretor> cpk1: got it!
[12:10] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1 no scan results
[12:11] <anything> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl#head-3061c16ffd1230560d9fd97fe97d0a1ce9e89988
[12:11] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: I assume there really is a signal in range? what does lshw say about the ccard?
[12:11] <vegasmcpc> no, i just opened it from the gui because when i tried to kdesu i got this error
[12:11] <vegasmcpc> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[12:11] <vegasmcpc>   Major opcode:  144
[12:12] <vegasmcpc>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:12] <vegasmcpc>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:12] <cpk1> it should still open it i think even with that error
[12:12] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: yes there is wireless in range. What would the card be under lshw?
[12:12] <vegasmcpc> Failed to open device
[12:12] <vegasmcpc> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[12:12] <vegasmcpc>   Major opcode:  144
[12:12] <vegasmcpc>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:12] <vegasmcpc>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:12] <vegasmcpc> Failed to open device
[12:12] <b0rt> hi there
[12:12] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: it will probably be listed under "network"
[12:12] <vegasmcpc> i got it to work
[12:12] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: just use nano then: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:12] <phretor> cpk1: anyway, the system *already* do fsck at *every* boot; unfortunately, the result is always the same "Not automatically fixing this."
[12:13] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: it doesn't show up. There is *-bridge, with the logical name eth0, but no wireless card
[12:13] <b0rt> i got problems with apt, how may i unblock sources.list to correct the wrong lines?
[12:13] <vegasmcpc> actually, cpk1, i just went in through the gui and chose edit as root from the actions menu
[12:13] <vegasmcpc> brb, gotta reboot
[12:13] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: do sudo lshw
[12:13] <cpk1> vegasmcpc: why?
[12:14] <b0rt> how can i edit sources.list ?
[12:14] <b0rt> any1 could tell me?
[12:14] <cpk1> b0rt: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:14] <b0rt> huh thanks ^^
[12:14] <crazy_penguin> Hello
[12:14] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: same results
[12:15] <cpk1> I hate troubleshooting wireless cards ><
[12:15] <b0rt> whats "kdesu" btw cpk1
[12:15] <cpk1> kde su
[12:15] <Jucato> !kdesu | b0rt
[12:15] <ubotu> b0rt: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:15] <dettoaltrimenti_> b0rt if you want to know what something does, look at the manual. in the terminal, type "man (whatever" like "man kdesu"
[12:16] <b0rt> thanks =)
[12:16] <b0rt> sorry im so newb
[12:16] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: see if eth0 can scan (iwlist scan)
[12:16] <b0rt> but it didnt work
[12:16] <dettoaltrimenti_> it's ok... manual reading is one of the major pastimes of linux users
[12:16] <b0rt> b0rt@b0rtsh0p:~$ kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:16] <b0rt> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[12:17] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: interface doesn't support scanning for 'lo' and 'eth0', eth1: no scan results
[12:17] <Jucato> b0rt: ignore those X Error: BadDevice messages
[12:17] <b0rt> ok i ignore but still cant edit sources list
[12:17] <cpk1> but why doesnt lshw know what it is!
[12:17] <cpk1> argh
[12:18] <cpk1> b0rt: why not?
[12:18] <b0rt> Failed to open device
[12:18] <b0rt> after that error
[12:18] <Jucato> b0rt: Kate doesn't launch?
[12:18] <b0rt> doesnt
[12:18] <dettoaltrimenti_> b0rt: it should prompt you fore your password after the errors, then give some more errors then pop up
[12:18] <b0rt> may I paste 10 lines error?
[12:19] <cpk1> b0rt: no, use pastebin
[12:19] <Jucato> !pastebin | b0rt
[12:19] <ubotu> b0rt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: I tried configuring the card using the instructions here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 using ndiswrapper
[12:19] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: how do you know you needed ndiswrapper? do you already know what kind of card it is?
[12:20] <flippy> exactly what do i need to type in the console to do an md5sum for this file on my desktop?xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.zipr this...
[12:20] <alfatau> hello, i installed a fresh kubuntu. i would want my wireless card starts turned off at bootstrap, while now everytime i've to turn it off. what could i do?
[12:20] <vegasmcpc> sound driver works!!!!
[12:20] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1 I googled 'hp pavilion dv6000 wireless ubuntu' and it seemed like a lot of people had the same problem as me, and this was a solution
[12:20] <vegasmcpc> thank you all so much
[12:20] <b0rt> cpk1:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6201/
[12:20] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1 but I can find out the type of card if you need to know
[12:21] <flippy>  md5sum Desktop/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.zip
[12:21] <b0rt> Jucato: any idea why i cant edit the file?
[12:22] <flippy>  md5sum Desktop/xandros-41-professional-installation-trial.zip
[12:22] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: that is a pretty old post =P
[12:22] <flippy> got it now
[12:22] <flippy> its checking
[12:22] <_Ace2016_> Hi all
[12:22] <_Ace2016_> anyone know where i can get an ogm video? a video in ogm format of anything
[12:22] <b0rt> i got an error trying to update, install or remove saying line 42 isnt rite
[12:22] <_Ace2016_> but not porn
[12:22] <Jucato> b0rt: not really.. try this. in Konqueror, go to /etc/apt/ then right-click on the sources.list file, select Actions -> Edit as Root
[12:22] <b0rt> i think i added edgy repository by accident
[12:22] <cpk1> _Ace2016_: make one yourself?
[12:23] <_Ace2016_> cpk1: how?
[12:23] <vegasmcpc> what repository do i need for mplayer?
[12:23] <vegasmcpc> it says multiverse repository in the faq
[12:23] <Jucato_> !info mplayer | vegasmcpc
[12:23] <ubotu> vegasmcpc: mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[12:24] <vegasmcpc> !component multiverse
[12:24] <cpk1> _Ace2016_: ffmpeg should convert a video you have to ogm
[12:24] <vegasmcpc> damn didn't work
[12:24] <_Ace2016_> cpk1: how?
[12:24] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: it would be nice to be certain of what we are dealing with =P
[12:25] <flippy> ok the num
[12:25] <_Ace2016_> cpk1: know how i can convert an mpeg to ogm?
[12:25] <crystufer2000> !flash
[12:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:25] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:26] <cpk1> _Ace2016_: first, do you have ffmpeg?
[12:26] <b0rt> Jucato_: it w0rked just fine =) thanks
[12:26] <vegasmcpc> i just need to know how to add the component multiverse
[12:26] <_Ace2016_> yes
[12:26] <vegasmcpc> !samba
[12:26] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:26] <alfatau> hello, i installed a fresh kubuntu. i would want my wireless card starts turned off at bootstrap, while now everytime i've to turn it off by pressing the wifi button on my laptop. what could i do?
[12:27] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: but i guess we can double check to make sure the drivers installed correctly with ndiswrapper. does ndiswrapper -l show the correct driver?
[12:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: no, it says bcmwl5a: invalid driver!
[12:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: I'm also trying to find the name of the wireless card for you
[12:28] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: well that could be the first problem =)
[12:30] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1 I still can't find a site saying what the card is, but I've read a lot of posts saying that the dv6000 has a 'broadcom' wireless card
[12:32] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: there are lots of broadcoms, but we might as well remove the nonworking driver do sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5a
[12:32] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: then put all the files from the windows driver .exe into one folder
[12:32] <cpk1> or if its just an inf put it into a folder
[12:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1 it was in lshw, sorry :) *-network DISABLED broadcom corporation- do you need any other info from lshw?
[12:34] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: product?
[12:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: it just says Broadcom Corporation
[12:35] <cpk1> pciid?
[12:36] <_Ace2016_> cpk1: i did it, using mencoder
[12:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> physical id: 0; serial: 00:14a5:cf:71:be cpk1
[12:36] <crystufer2000> OMFG!!! Beryl is amazing!
[12:36] <vegasmcpc> i was trying to mount a windows share and i got this error:
[12:36] <vegasmcpc> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[12:36] <vegasmcpc> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.66/Storage,
[12:36] <vegasmcpc>        missing codepage or other error
[12:36] <vegasmcpc>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:36] <vegasmcpc>        dmesg | tail  or so
[12:36] <crystufer2000> !java
[12:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:37] <andremarte> !ntfs-3g
[12:37] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:37] <crystufer2000> !multiverse
[12:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:37] <extern> how can I set the gamma in xorg.conf file? If I set it through system settings->monitor & display->gamma, then it ruins my xorg.conf file and next time I restart my computer, the monitor doesn't show anything. I've set "gamma 1.17" in the monitor section, but when the kde starts, the monitor still displays it incorrectly, while monitor & display settings show the gamma value as 1.17. If I move the slider back and forth, so it is still 1.17 and
[12:37] <extern> push apply, then everything is displayed properly
[12:39] <b0rt> how is supossed to be installed a graphics driver, i see a install.sh in the driver folder...
[12:39] <extern> add execute permission to install.sh and run it
[12:39] <extern> chmod +x install.sh
[12:40] <andremarte> !italiano
[12:40] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: businfo numbers
[12:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:40] <b0rt> extern it has x permission
[12:41] <extern> then run it
[12:41] <b0rt> sorry to be such an idiot... how??
[12:41] <andremarte> !chat
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[12:41] <extern> either clicck it
[12:41] <extern> or go to its location in konsole
[12:41] <extern> and type ./install.sh
[12:41] <andremarte> !italia chat
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about italia chat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <b0rt> thanks! ^^ (clicking didnt w0rk)
[12:42] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: pci@03:00.0
[12:43] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: get this driver http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-45290-1&lc=en&cc=sg&dlc=en&product=3245619&os=228&lang=en
[12:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> cpk1: should I unzip it and get certain files?
[12:44] <b0rt> extern: it run, then ask, then fails to install : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6203/
[12:44] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: once you get it unzip it all into a folder like I_hate_broadcom or something
[12:44] <b0rt> no compiler
[12:44] <b0rt> :S
[12:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh
[12:45] <extern> type in konsole sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:45] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti_: you already removed the old driver right?
[12:45] <b0rt> ic...
[12:46] <b0rt> ^.^U
[12:47] <b0rt> damnit it keeps failing on driver install
[12:47] <shinigami> !nvidia
[12:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:47] <noel> Greetings folks. Are there any ALSA helpers out there?
[12:48] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1: what was the last thing you said? I have the files on a folder on my desktop now
[12:49] <b0rt> its not ati or nvidia its intel gm915
[12:49] <b0rt> on laptop
[12:49] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: did you remove the old driver you tried installing previously?
[12:49] <b0rt> cannot compile intel driver http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6205/
[12:50] <extern> you probably need to install kernel headers and kernel sources packages
[12:50] <extern> find them with adept
[12:50] <noel> I am trying to get ROSEGARDEN up and running. My problem is the soundcard. I need an aLSA driver. Here is the link, but where is the driver-file? http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=C-Media&card=.&chip=CMI8338%2C+CMI8738%2C+CMI8768&module=cmipci
[12:50] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 yes
[12:51] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: so ndiswrapper -l returns nothing?
[12:52] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 it returns device (14U4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx) should I get rid of that one too?
[12:52] <noel> C Media 18738/pci for those interested.
[12:52] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: thats the linux driver... do this echo 'blacklist bcm43xx' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:54] <b0rt> wow how wise u are
[12:54] <b0rt> =P
[12:55] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1: ok it says 'blacklist bcm43xx'
[12:55] <noel> help
[12:55] <b0rt> extern:  do i have to reb00t for kernels?
[12:55] <b0rt> i installed latest and keep me saying same thing
[12:56] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: "cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" to make sure it says bcm43xx is blacklisted then reboot to disable it (that file only affects things at boot)
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> noel: if you have alsa and you do the driver is already there
[12:57] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1: it shows up. Also is i2c_i801- I shouldn't worry about that should I
[12:57] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: probably not heh
[12:58] <Linux_Galore> noel: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic/include/config/snd/cmipci
[12:58] <noel> Linux_Galore: ROSEGARDEN says no driver?
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> noel: who cares the driver is there, check yourself
[12:59] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 ok restarted
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> noel: when is rosegarden complaing ??
[12:59] <noel> Linux_Galore: if the driver is there, would you have any suggestions for getting it to be recognised by ROSEGARDEN?
[01:00] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: ok sudo ndiswrapper - i path/to/file.inf
[01:00] <cpk1> -i
[01:00] <cpk1> ignore that space i put in on accident
[01:00] <b0rt> is that what i need? kernel-devel -> This is a dummy package that will install all possible packages required to hack comfortably on the kernel.
[01:00] <Linux_Galore> noel: why does rosegarden need a driver it should just talk to alsa
[01:00] <b0rt> i guess not
[01:01] <Linux_Galore> noel: alsa manages the drivers
[01:01] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 to bcmwl5.inf?
[01:01] <Linux_Galore> noel: did you compile rosegarden or is it a package
[01:01] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: is that what you extracted from the link I gave you?
[01:01] <noel> Linux_Galore: package
[01:01] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 yeah
[01:02] <cpk1> then yes
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> noel: of the ubuntu repo ??
[01:02] <cpk1> and then do ndiswrapper -l to make sure it worked
[01:02] <noel> yes
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> noel: ok does your sound work ?
[01:02] <noel> Linux_Galore:yes
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> noel: then its a settinf problem with rosegarden
[01:03] <noel> Linux_Galore: i shall test the sound now, give me 1 minute.
[01:03] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 when I tried to install the driver it said "Driver bcmwl5 is already installed" and it doesn't show up in ndiswrapper -l
[01:04] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 and now eth1 isn't showing up in network settings :(
[01:06] <P0x90> Hi, there. This is my first try of Kubuntu. It looks kckin' ass !!!
[01:06] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: try sudo ndiswrapper -r bcmwl5
[01:07] <gansinho> hello, does anybody knows if the kubuntu bleeding package has still development packages or just the final releases?
[01:08] <gansinho> bleeding edge packages
[01:08] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 ok I removed and reinstalled. Should I try to restart and see if it works now?
[01:09] <noel> Linux_Galore: no sound!
[01:09] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: no need
[01:09] <cpk1> but its not done yet
[01:09] <dettoaltrimenti> ok
[01:10] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: "sudo depmod -a" then when that finishes "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[01:11] <dettoaltrimenti> ok
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> noel: configure your sound then
[01:12] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: once thats done sudo ifdown eth1 (or whatever the interface is called) and then sudo ifup eth1
[01:13] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1, actually somewhere along the line eth1 disappeared
[01:14] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: try wlan0
[01:14] <dettoaltrimenti> nope cpk1- and it's not showing up in network settings
[01:15] <dettoaltrimenti> but it still shows up on lshw
[01:15] <cpk1> as?
[01:15] <dettoaltrimenti> network UNCLAIMED
[01:17] <cpk1> ndiswrapper -l shows the driver?
[01:17] <dettoaltrimenti> bcmwl5: driver installed; device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[01:18] <noel> Linux_Galore: OK sound is now happening.
[01:18] <cpk1> urgh
[01:18] <cpk1> the bcm43xx didnt get blacklisted
[01:19] <fannagoganna> hi, wondering if anyone could help me when i install my audio CD
[01:19] <fannagoganna> i get the following error when i try to access the drive, "Device doesn't have read permissions for this account. Check the read permissions on the device."
[01:19] <cpk1> cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist says what dettoaltrimenti?
[01:20] <dettoaltrimenti> at the very bottom it says blacklist bcm43xx (cpk1)
[01:20] <noel> Linux_Galore:ROSEGARDEN gives me the following promt on start-up. "Sequencer startup has failed. MIDI subsystem has failed to initialise."
[01:21] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: the folder with the .inf only has one .inf and .sys right?
[01:21] <mkay__>  hi guys. i installed edgy. my problm is, that my pci and usb dont work. in dapper i have startet with usb=bios pci=bios in the kernel-parameters. how i have to start in edgy?
[01:21] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 no it actually has a lot of .sys files
[01:21] <dettoaltrimenti> should I take out the .inf and .sys files and just put it on the desktop, and then remove and reinstall the driver?
[01:21] <installKubuntu> Hello
[01:22] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 but there is only 1 file named bcmwl5.sys
[01:22] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: yeah just have the .inf and .sys that you are using be in a folder
[01:22] <cpk1> and yes remove and reinstall =X
[01:22] <cpk1> guess I should of made sure of that
[01:23] <installKubuntu> I try to install Kubuntu on my box. I was on Ubuntu just before and I was getting sick of gnome, so I wanted to switch. I installed kubuntu-desktop, but some features didn't work (media manager, etc). So I downloaded a fresh iso of kubuntu-6.10
[01:23] <installKubuntu> Did I say Hello ? :D
[01:23] <installKubuntu> Hello everybody
[01:23] <installKubuntu> So now, my problem is on the mount point selection screen
[01:24] <installKubuntu> I have 1 partition dedicated to the root (/)
[01:24] <installKubuntu> and I got a great message : you don't have root filesystem, select one ...
[01:24] <vegasmcpc> hey guys, i screwed up my computer
[01:25] <vegasmcpc> i installed the dmraid drivers, and now when starting up it says can't find raid disks and kicks me to a command prompt
[01:25] <vegasmcpc> erm
[01:25] <vegasmcpc> termina
[01:25] <vegasmcpc> terminal
[01:25] <vegasmcpc> and...i don't know how to undo what i did
[01:25] <dettoaltrimenti> ok cpk1 I reinstalled doing what you said, did depmod and modprobe, still doesn't show up under iwconfig
[01:26] <noel> HELP anyone please. How do I turn MIDI on? ROSEGARDEN gives me the following promt on start-up. "Sequencer startup has failed. MIDI subsystem has failed to initialise."
[01:26] <cpk1> =S hrmmm
[01:27] <installKubuntu> noel
[01:27] <installKubuntu> try to install timidity I think
[01:28] <vegasmcpc> anybody able to help on the removing a driver issue?
[01:28] <noel> installKubuntu:yes?
[01:28] <vegasmcpc> i can't get into kde
[01:28] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: what is the output of ndiswrapper -l?
[01:28] <noel> installKubuntu: what is timidity?
[01:28] <installKubuntu> noel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiHardwareSynthesisSetup?highlight=%28midi%29, if your card support hardware midi
[01:29] <installKubuntu> noel: and timidity if it doesn't : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo?highlight=%28midi%29
[01:29] <dettoaltrimenti> same as it was before cpk1: bcmwl5: driver installed, alternate driver: bcm43xx(which is the one on the blacklist file)
[01:29] <noel> installKubuntu: thenks I shall have a read :)
[01:29] <installKubuntu> I tried the french tutorial and it did work for me to play midi files
[01:30] <installKubuntu> I d'ont know if the english one will work, but I think so ;)
[01:30] <vegasmcpc> ah fuck it, i haven't done anything much with this one, i'll just reinstall
[01:31] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: nothing else?
[01:32] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 nope
[01:33] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: lshw what does it say the id is now?
[01:33] <installKubuntu> Nobody has an idea for my bugged install of kubuntu ? :'(
[01:33] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 found the problem I think- when I try modprobe, it says FATAL: Module bcmwl5 not found
[01:34] <vegasmcpc> installKubuntu, what's wrong with it?
[01:34] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 the id is still 0
[01:34] <vegasmcpc> i probably won't know, i'm just curious
[01:34] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: yeah that would be bad =)
[01:36] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 and also if this helps in /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper I read "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" and that's it
[01:36] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: At the moutpoint selection screen (step 5/6), it tells me that I didn't select a root filesystem mount point
[01:36] <installKubuntu> except that I have one
[01:37] <vegasmcpc> wait, are you doing an upgrade install?
[01:37] <installKubuntu> no
[01:37] <installKubuntu> install, short
[01:37] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: that means it should show up as wlan0 i think
[01:37] <vegasmcpc> what filesystem did you use?
[01:37] <installKubuntu> from my fresh downloaded kubuntu-6.10 CD
[01:37] <cpk1> but wwe are exhausting my knowledge here
[01:37] <installKubuntu> yeah : 1337 hour :D
[01:37] <cpk1> and I am getting tired =\
[01:38] <vegasmcpc> oh, it's 13:37 there?
[01:38] <vegasmcpc> where you from, installKubuntu?
[01:38] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: It is reiserfs i Think
[01:38] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: from France
[01:38] <installKubuntu> I'll check
[01:38] <vegasmcpc> i'd try reformatting it in ext3 or jfs
[01:39] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: yes, reiserfs
[01:39] <vegasmcpc> those are the only filesystems that i've had work, and they never gave me problems
[01:39] <vegasmcpc> if you don't have anything particularly important on the disk, reformat it in ext3 or jfs
[01:39] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: :'(, It was working using reiserfs on my ubuntu and debian before :(
[01:39] <installKubuntu> I'll try that
[01:39] <gansinho> please I want to know if the KDE bleeding edge sources are regular sources for KDE or if they have beta packages
[01:39] <vegasmcpc> i might be totally off, i'm pretty much a noob
[01:40] <vegasmcpc> but yea, reiser isn't that much of a performance increase, i'd stick with stuff that's known to work with kubuntu
[01:40] <installKubuntu> no no, nothing important at all... My old root filesystem completely screwed up ... (I've made a great mistake and began to rm -rf in it ... No more /bin, /dev, etc... LOL
[01:40] <SlimG> KTorrent 2.1 only list leechers while seeding a completed torrent, why?
[01:41] <vegasmcpc> if you run the kubuntu livecd reiserfs isn't an option...that's a bad sign for using that filesystem
[01:41] <vegasmcpc> SlimG...you don't have to connect to the seeders, so ktorrent probably doesn't have you connect
[01:41] <vegasmcpc> no reason for it to look for seeders on a torrent you're seeding
[01:42] <noel> installKubuntu: how do I download timidity in ubuntu 6.10?
[01:42] <vegasmcpc> !timidity
[01:42] <ubotu> timidity: Software sound renderer (MIDI sequencer, MOD player). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.13.2-7.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 534 kB, installed size 1716 kB
[01:42] <vegasmcpc> ah...i was wondering what that was
[01:42] <installKubuntu> you must add the universe repository to your sources.list/adept
[01:42] <vegasmcpc> noel, are you connected to the universe and multiverse?
[01:42] <installKubuntu> and then select/install timidity :D
[01:43] <installKubuntu> or maybe timidity++, don't remember the package name
[01:43] <crystufer2000> Hey guys, how do I download something on konquerer without it opening in kate?
[01:43] <cpk1> right click save as
[01:43] <noel> vegasmcpc: according to the repositories I am, but I do not see in in the download manager
[01:43] <vegasmcpc> i don't really like konqueror
[01:43] <SlimG> vegasmcpc: When i have shared my ratio (>1) I need to see that there's other seeders available at the torrent so it won't die when i remove the torrent from seeding
[01:44] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: sorry but i think this might be beyond my expertise =\
[01:44] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: that was the reiserfs ! Thanks. How can I report a "bug" ?
[01:44] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: might be worth trying a newer ndiswrapper?
[01:44] <vegasmcpc> idk that it's necessarily a bug...i think that it's just a lack of support
[01:44] <crystufer2000> cpk1: That won't work when it's  php or whatever.
[01:44] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: that's why I used " :D
[01:44] <vegasmcpc> but i'm not sure how to...i've only been using this stuff for like 2 days
[01:44] <installKubuntu> ok
[01:45] <vegasmcpc> i know the install process pretty well, seeing as i've screwed up a few times and just said screw it and reinstalled
[01:45] <noel> installKubuntu: cannot find timidity!
[01:45] <vegasmcpc> lol...first time i did it i think i misspelled what i wanted for a user name
[01:45] <installKubuntu> noel: did you add the universe repository ?
[01:45] <vegasmcpc> couldn't get in
[01:46] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1, I have the newest but I'm going to uninstall everything and try again fresh, see if the same steps work. Losing eth1 on iwconfig worries me though- I hope I get that back when I uninstall everything
[01:46] <noel> installKubuntu: I think i have always had the universe repository.
[01:46] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: the interface didnt work anyways...
[01:46] <vegasmcpc> man, i wish there was support for my newer wireless card in my laptop
[01:46] <vegasmcpc> noel
[01:46] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 and also can you tell me where modprobe.conf is supposed to be?
[01:46] <vegasmcpc> add multiverse
[01:47] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: ROFL .... It is now saying : creation of the reiserfs filesystem for the / mountpoint
[01:47] <vegasmcpc> o.O
[01:47] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: I find the whole filesystem partitioning flags is a mess
[01:47] <vegasmcpc> installKubuntu...use hd-kill every time you reformat
[01:48] <vegasmcpc> gets rid of everything
[01:48] <vegasmcpc> takes a few minutes extra, but less bs
[01:48] <gansinho> please, someon that installed Kubuntu (I used to have ubuntu and installed kubuntu-desktop via apt-get) could say to me if the repo deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main is in the sources, please!
[01:48] <installKubuntu> vegasmcpc: In cfdisk, it'll show you that your fs is a reiser one, even if you formatted it as a ext3 using mkfs.ext3 ...
[01:48] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: hah guess what has been staring me in the face this whole time
[01:48] <cpk1> dettoaltrimenti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[01:49] <installKubuntu> don't have it on the kubuntu cd
[01:49] <installKubuntu> but i'll remember
[01:49] <installKubuntu> I think there are too much data duplication for the partitions/fs
[01:49] <installKubuntu> And they can be totally different
[01:49] <vegasmcpc> yea, it's the exact same problem that they have when reformatting for winblows...sometimes you'll end up having like 2 or 3 windows options when you start up
[01:49] <vegasmcpc> yup
[01:49] <installKubuntu> this is how i screwed my old LVM system ...
[01:50] <vegasmcpc> best to completely fdisk or hd-kill stuff like that
[01:50] <vegasmcpc> lvm?
[01:50] <installKubuntu> Logical Volum Manager
[01:50] <vegasmcpc> ah
[01:50] <installKubuntu> I got one with 2 partition over 2 disks
[01:50] <vegasmcpc> man...i just reinstalled kubuntu, now i get to play with the sound card again
[01:50] <vegasmcpc> that sucked
[01:50] <installKubuntu> and the old fs flags was : reiserfs .
[01:51] <installKubuntu> So ubuntu at the install detected those /dev/hd partition as reiserfs fs, and not as part of LVM
[01:52] <installKubuntu> ubuntu put them in the /etc/fstab... And at each boot, i got errors while those blocks devices where scanned ... Since they were part of the LVM, some directories pointed to data stored ine the other partition
[01:52] <Hrvoje> how can i limit upload bandwith on specific port ?
[01:52] <installKubuntu> I didn't verify if those devices were those on the LVM and I did a fsck.reiserfs --rebuild-tree on each ... 40 GB data screwed, yay
[01:53] <installKubuntu> Hrvoje: With the software you use, if it can do it. Otherwise you may install Quality of Service (QoS) package and maybe recompile your kernel :/
[01:54] <Hrvoje> installKubuntu: can i do it somehow with iptables?
[01:54] <installKubuntu> Hrvoje: I wanted the same feature, and that what we told me... I looked a little in documentation, and it was huge... So I gave up
[01:54] <installKubuntu> Hrvoje: maybe with a patch for iptable to support QoS, but not iptables raw
[01:54] <installKubuntu> I think
[01:55] <installKubuntu> I didn't look for 2 years about this problem
[01:55] <installKubuntu> it may have changed :D
[01:55] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 excellent
[01:55] <Hrvoje> why is it so complicated?
[01:55] <Hrvoje> i only want to limit my outbound trafic on port 5555 to 100KB/s
[01:55] <installKubuntu> Because the kernel and iptables dev didn't think it was a killer feature for everybody
[01:55] <Hrvoje> on eth0
[01:55] <noel> installKubuntu: i have added universe, multiverse, and still cannot see "Timidity"?
[01:55] <installKubuntu> Hrvoje: I understand you right, i wanted the same
[01:56] <installKubuntu> noel : did you make an update ?
[01:56] <gansinho> installKubuntu: please help me, I'm asking here for a long time and I just need a simple info... my english is not very good and I just want to knwo if the  repo deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest edgy main has final versions of the packages ( a stable repository for kubuntu) or if it's filled with "beta" packages
[01:56] <Hrvoje> installKubuntu: i'm using ubuntu as internet gateway, so users kill my connection, so i want to limit global bandwith...
[01:56] <installKubuntu> gansinho: sorry, i don't know if 'ill help you :/ I really don't know
[01:57] <installKubuntu> Hrvoje: buy a server with unlimited bandwitdh
[01:57] <installKubuntu> just joking ;D
[01:57] <Hrvoje> installKubuntu: XD
[01:57] <ulises> alguien habla espaol??
[01:57] <gansinho> installKubuntu: why? I said something wrong?
[01:57] <installKubuntu> I got the same problem, i wanted to limit my apache2 server, but ... It was too long to do it. But maybe it is simpler
[01:58] <vegasmcpc> anybody in here know how to set up software raid?
[01:58] <installKubuntu> gansinho: lol no, but i don't know your repository :D
[01:58] <installKubuntu> gansinho: I use the base ubuntu.com repository
[01:59] <vegasmcpc> !raid
[01:59] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:59] <dettoaltrimenti> cpk1 ok wlan0 is showing up, the card is working! and I set up my pppoeconf for the wireless router... but when I try to connect to the wireless it says 'connection failed.' I'm extremely close. any ideas?
[01:59] <installKubuntu> lvm is great \o/
[01:59] <gansinho> installKubuntu: and could you check please if this repo is by default in your sources?
[01:59] <installKubuntu> I'm still on the live CD lol :
[01:59] <installKubuntu> :D
[01:59] <installKubuntu> i'll check
[01:59] <gansinho> thanks!
[02:00] <Alllex> Hey everyone- can anyone tell me how I can compiler Java on Kubuntu 6.10?
[02:00] <installKubuntu> no, i get : archive.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <installKubuntu> to compile java ?
[02:00] <installKubuntu> with the javac command
[02:00] <installKubuntu> you can have it with some jdk packages
[02:00] <dettoaltrimenti> alllex: open adept and type in java compiler
[02:00] <Alllex> K
[02:00] <noel> installKubuntu: System,Administration,Software Sources.
[02:00] <vegasmcpc> installKubuntu, is lvm what i'm going to want for software raid?
[02:01] <gansinho> installKubuntu: thanks!
[02:01] <installKubuntu> It can do it
[02:01] <noel> installKubuntu: Now I am using the synaptic package manager
[02:01] <installKubuntu> But i think the soft raid is better for that
[02:01] <dettoaltrimenti> gcj is a good graphic compiler
[02:01] <installKubuntu> ok noel
[02:01] <vegasmcpc> basically, i want to make sure that if this motherboard dies after it's out of manufacturing, i want to be able to take the raid5 array out and use it on another mobo
[02:01] <vegasmcpc> soft raid...do i get that through adept?
[02:02] <installKubuntu> don't know :D
[02:02] <installKubuntu> never used it
[02:02] <vegasmcpc> what do you use lvm for?
[02:02] <installKubuntu> I always raw partition or LVm
[02:02] <vegasmcpc> brb, switching back to my freshly resurrected linux box
[02:02] <Alllex> Whenever I try to "Run as root" It says the password is wrong- even after I do "sudo passwd root"?
[02:02] <installKubuntu> but with lvm on 2 disk, you can use the strip mode (one data go one 1 disk, 1 data on another).. So it looks like raid for me
[02:03] <mart81> have we all voted already?
[02:03] <installKubuntu> Alllex: sudo su ; passwd
[02:03] <dettoaltrimenti> how can I check if my wlan0 is connected to the router through the terminal?
[02:04] <installKubuntu> sudo su => you'll log into root mode. Then, as root, you change the root passwd :)
[02:04] <installKubuntu> dettoaltrimenti: sudo iwconfig
[02:04] <installKubuntu> dettoaltrimenti: sudo iwconfig wlan0
[02:04] <Alllex> Ah, I've done that. Now it says "Conversation with su failed"?
[02:04] <installKubuntu> and if you see AP : 01:23:...., then you're connected
[02:05] <installKubuntu> Alllex: my command was some bad ass one, sorry
[02:06] <installKubuntu> juste type sudo su, then in the root prompt, type passwd
[02:06] <Alllex> k?
[02:06] <Alllex> "sudo su" doesn't do anything for me?
[02:06] <installKubuntu> really ?
[02:06] <installKubuntu> that's bad :D
[02:06] <pagux> I am back on public demand
[02:06] <installKubuntu> what does it do ?
[02:07] <Alllex> Nothing- it just goes blank for a milli-second and then it comes uyp with the "$" again..
[02:07] <installKubuntu> yes
[02:07] <installKubuntu> type id :
[02:07] <installKubuntu> id
[02:07] <milian> hello, how do I change the language kmail checks my spelling in? I usually write german mails which get checked correctly but as soon as I write english mails, pretty much all is red ;) I cant find the proper configuration...
[02:08] <Alllex> K
[02:08] <installKubuntu> Alllex: what does it tell you ?
[02:08] <Alllex> I'm root for "Gid" "Uid" and "Groups"
[02:08] <installKubuntu> ok, the you're root
[02:08] <installKubuntu> then **
[02:08] <milian> in the language dropdown of the spell checker window I only see ngerman, ndeutsch and ogerman and odeutsch
[02:08] <milian> ...
[02:08] <installKubuntu> so type : passwd
[02:08] <installKubuntu> and you can change the root passwd ;)
[02:09] <Alllex> Ah K
[02:09] <installKubuntu> milian: maybe there is a package to install ?
[02:09] <Alllex> Still says "Conversation with us failed"?
[02:09] <installKubuntu> milian: maybe aspell-en, or so ?
[02:09] <milian> well, I'm already searching for the appropriate package which could be missing but I dont have a clue
[02:09] <installKubuntu> milian: i'll check
[02:10] <milian> i'll too
[02:10] <milian> aspell-en is installed
[02:10] <installKubuntu> Alllex: conversation with us failed ?
[02:11] <milian> ah, i think I got it - i have to pick aspell in kcontrol for spell checking
[02:11] <installKubuntu> Alllex: can you copy paste your terminal from the time you type sudo su, and then change the passwd please ?
[02:11] <Alllex> Sorry- it's "Conversationg with SU failed"
[02:11] <Alllex> k
[02:13] <Alllex> root@alex-desktop:/home/alex# sudo su
[02:13] <Alllex> root@alex-desktop:/home/alex# passwd
[02:13] <Alllex> Enter new UNIX password:
[02:13] <Alllex> Retype new UNIX password:
[02:13] <Alllex> passwd: password updated successfully
[02:13] <Alllex> root@alex-desktop:/home/alex#
[02:13] <milian> yes, installKubuntu - it works now
[02:13] <milian> thanks :)
[02:13] <installKubuntu> milian: great :D I couldn't even try to look for it as i was doing smthg else
[02:14] <Alllex> I'm certain it's something to do with the time I accidently changed my username without changing the home directory and couldn't log in. Ever since I sorted that problem this has happened...
[02:15] <Alllex> Is there anyway I can just reinstall Kubuntu?
[02:15] <installKubuntu> Alllex: yes, plug the CD :D
[02:15] <mart81> have we all voted yet on fridge?
[02:15] <installKubuntu> Alllex: but what's your problem ?
[02:15] <Alllex> But if I wipe the Kubuntu Partition- what will happen to the GRUB loader?! :(
[02:16] <Lynoure> Is there BasKet 0.6 or newer available for dapper from anywhere?
[02:16] <Hobbsee> Alllex: grub will be installed again at the end of the partitioner
[02:16] <Alllex> My problem is I can no longer use as root in KDE. Only the console no matter what I do
[02:16] <Alllex> Okay
[02:16] <installKubuntu> the grub base system is on the MBR i think, so it's safe ... Until it tries to read the /boot/grub/menu.lst, and it will fail then :D
[02:16] <Alllex> SO, If I wipe the partition- will Windows regain control of Boot?
[02:16] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: not dapper. there's 1.0 out.  probably debs on the basket site
[02:17] <installKubuntu> Alllex: using kde as root is a VERY BAD idea ;)
[02:17] <Alllex> But what about when I need to access Adept?
[02:17] <Alllex> Or system settings?#
[02:17] <installKubuntu> oh ... kdesu doesn't work ?
[02:17] <installKubuntu> that's odd
[02:17] <Alllex> Yup
[02:18] <installKubuntu> try : kdesu adept ?
[02:18] <installKubuntu> in console, as normal user
[02:18] <Alllex> root@alex-desktop:/home/alex# kdesu adept
[02:18] <Alllex> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:18] <Alllex> Xlib: No protocol specified
[02:18] <Alllex> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[02:18] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: nope, no debs or even rpms on http://basket.kde.org/download.php
[02:18] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: I know they used to have 0.60 for dapper there, but not anymore.
[02:21] <installKubuntu> Alllex: normal
[02:21] <installKubuntu> your aren't in a normal user prompt/console.. Look : root@alex-desktop:/home/alex# , it is written "root" at the beginning ;)
[02:22] <installKubuntu> And when you (alex) is connected on KDE, the root doesn't have any acces ;)
[02:22] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: grab the feisty source, compile it for dapper
[02:22] <installKubuntu> Alllex: just open another konsole :)
[02:22] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: not worth it for me yet for an app I do not know I'll like. But thanks anyway.
[02:23] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: doesnt take long to build.  and it's very useful
[02:23] <Lynoure> I was just hoping someone would know where the deb is as it does exist.
[02:23] <Alllex> alex@alex-desktop:~$ kdesu adept
[02:23] <Hobbsee> afaik, it doesnt.  and no, i'm not about to build one :)
[02:23] <Alllex> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[02:23] <Alllex>   Major opcode:  146
[02:23] <Hobbsee> Alllex: you can ignroe that error
[02:23] <Alllex>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:23] <Alllex>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:24] <Alllex> Failed to open device
[02:24] <Alllex> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[02:24] <Alllex>   Major opcode:  146
[02:24] <Alllex>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:24] <Alllex>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:24] <Alllex> Failed to open device
[02:24] <Alllex> alex@alex-desktop:~$
[02:24] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: The moment I get a new hd I'll go to edgy, etch or feisty, and that has it anyway
[02:24] <fdoving> !paste | alllex
[02:24] <ubotu> alllex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:24] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: edgy doesnt.
[02:24] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: edgy doesnt even have 0.6, iirc
[02:24] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: oh, well, etch or feisty :)
[02:25] <installKubuntu> Alllex: try : sudo adept
[02:25] <Guardian> hello, usb auto mounting stoped working after kde 3.5.5 update, is there a known solution to this problem ?
[02:30] <Edulix> hi
[02:30] <Edulix> Guardian: uhm, it works here
[02:31] <Alllex> Ah forget it... I'll just reinstall Kubuntu. All I want to know is; if I delete everything on my Kubuntu partition- will Windows XP (I'm runnign both) take over boot again?
[02:32] <Hobbsee> Alllex: no it wont
[02:32] <Hobbsee> Alllex: when you install kubuntu again, grub will be written to the MBR, again
[02:32] <Guardian> Edulix: glad for you :)
[02:33] <Edulix> hehe yes
[02:34] <ventje> Hello
[02:35] <noel> installKubuntu: I have downloaded and installed "timidity", but I cannot see it in "Applications/Sound and Video", nor can I see it in "Applications, add/remove"?
[02:37] <noel> installKubuntu: Why does the synapic package manager let me see "timidity " for download, yet "Application,add/remove" doesn't?
[02:39] <ostlund> i installed kubuntu from the live-cd, but the installer hanged in the end when it should download the list of updates......i restarted the computer and kbuntu was installed fine, but is there something wich dont where installed beacuse i exit the install?
[02:40] <Horst> hi
[02:41] <Horst> does somebody know how i can disable eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces ? (deleting auto before eth0 causes problems )
[02:41] <Horst> THX
[02:44] <Hobbsee> Horst: put a # in front of it
[02:45] <vegasmcpc> i'm trying to install kubuntu onto a desktop with an ati radeon x1900gt...i had it installed with the onboard vga card, but with the x1900 it won't
[02:45] <Horst> @Hobbsee, I don't wanna eth0 completly put out
[02:46] <Hobbsee> Horst: so...you want to disable it, but you dont?
[02:46] <vegasmcpc> when i put in the livedvd it will get up to the install options, and when i try either start livecd or start livecd in safe graphics mode it doesn't work
[02:46] <stamen> hi
[02:46] <stamen> can 3ddesktop work with beryl
[02:46] <installKubuntu> noel : sorry I was away
[02:46] <stamen> thme
[02:46] <stamen> theme
[02:46] <vegasmcpc> it'll have a flashing cursor in the upper left for about 3 seconds and then it dies
[02:46] <vegasmcpc> monitor then says no signal
[02:46] <stamen> or it works only with XGL?
[02:46] <Horst> @Hobbsee: I don't want to disable, i want that eth1 is my first and standard interface
[02:47] <Hobbsee> Horst: then just comment the auto eth0 out
[02:47] <vegasmcpc> any ideas?
[02:47] <Hobbsee> with a # in front
[02:47] <Hobbsee> stamen: ask in #beryl
[02:48] <stamen> ok
[02:48] <installKubuntu> noel: add/remove list some of the most used programs. Synaptic just show them all
[02:48] <Horst> @hobbsee but i will use sometime eth0 cause eth0 is lan and eth1 wlan
[02:49] <installKubuntu> noel: and timidity is just a command line program
[02:49] <Schuenemann> is there a program that can mount a virtual CD drive, like windows alcohol 120% does?
[02:49] <installKubuntu> that's why it may not be in the menu
[02:49] <noel> installKubuntu: so how do I run it?
[02:50] <weedar> seems my ISPs dns server is down, can I just add one manually to resolv.conf?
[02:51] <BluesKaj> there iso-maker progs that do the same thing as alky 120% , Schuenemann
[02:51] <Hobbsee> Horst: install knetworkmanager - it will automate a lot of it
[02:51] <Hobbsee> Schuenemann: check man mount
[02:51] <installKubuntu> noel: did you read the wiki ? :)
[02:51] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, like testing an image without having to burn it?
[02:51] <installKubuntu> noel: All is written in it
[02:52] <noel> installKubuntu: I shall now.
[02:52] <installKubuntu> I won't say you more ;) Because I don't know more lol
[02:52] <Schuenemann> Hobbsee, can that be used to mount CD images?
[02:53] <Horst> @hobbsee:  My /etc/network/interfaces and WPA PSK Settings won't be removed?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, yes ...forgotten the names , but if you google
[02:53] <Hobbsee> Horst: no - but you will need to type your passphrase into knetworkmanager when it prompts you
[02:54] <Hobbsee> Schuenemann: any iso file, yeah
[02:54] <Schuenemann> Hobbsee, iso, cue... ?
[02:54] <crazy_bus> I was thinking of buying a cd with comics on it.  However the comics are in pdf format.  Is there any software to extract the images to a better format?
[02:55] <Horst> ok
[02:55] <Hobbsee> Schuenemann: should all be covered in man mount
[02:56] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, I'm not sure about other progs but i have some video iso files that will open & play in VLC
[02:59] <olioBeato`> crazy, try foxit reader
[03:02] <crazy_bus> isn't that for windows olioBeato`?
[03:02] <weedar> I'm able to use IRC, Skype and ping domain, but I can't surf with firefox and wget can't get files either. Any idea what could be wrong?
[03:02] <BluesKaj> hmm , I keep getting a message in the terminal that line 18 in /etcfstab is bad ...this line 18  and the last charater in the line a "0" is in red . how do i fix this ? /dev/partition /media/mount point ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[03:03] <smoze> seems like http is not working
[03:04] <Schuenemann> weedar, have you tried not using domain names? like http://64.233.167.99
[03:07] <weedar> Schuenemann: I've tried that also, does not work. I am able to access the web-interface of my router, though
[03:07] <smoze> what kind of router?
[03:07] <weedar> It's a belkin pre-n wireless
[03:08] <smoze> dsl router?
[03:09] <weedar> no, there's a dsl-modem connected to it
[03:09] <weedar> Hm, I'll try rebooting the router, see if that helps
[03:10] <smoze> try to reboot both
[03:11] <Schuenemann> Hobbsee, do you what type of filesystem is a CUE file? I don't see any related in man mount
[03:11] <Schuenemann> do you know*
[03:11] <igor> hi
[03:11] <weedar_> that did it! restarting the router was all that I needed
[03:11] <weedar_> sorry for bothering you guys :)
[03:12] <Hobbsee> Schuenemann: iso9660 maybe- not sure about .cue files
[03:12] <Hobbsee> .iso is definetly iso9660
[03:12] <smoze> np
[03:16] <igor> reboot
[03:18] <igor> ok
[03:18] <noel> installKubuntu: Thanks for your help. Goodnight.
[03:20] <igor> good
[03:24] <dettoaltrimenti> when I scroll up and down in Firefox (and in pretty much any program) it's really choppy and it seems to reload the entire page every time I move the scrollbar- can anyone help?
[03:25] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can I set KDM to autologin for my user?
[03:26] <atidem> DjDarkman: System Settings --> Login Manager --> Convenience
[03:27] <DjDarkman> thank you
[03:29] <problema-rede> I have only 1 network card but it is named eth1
[03:30] <problema-rede> how i resolv this problem?
[03:31] <problema-rede> help
[03:31] <Hobbsee> problema-rede: just use eth1?
[03:32] <problema-rede> but the knetdockapp only have options "lo , eth0, sit0"
[03:32] <problema-rede> how i make eth1 to eth0?
[03:33] <weedar_> Is there a good kde ftpclient that supports tls?
[03:33] <Jucato> !ftp
[03:33] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[03:35] <weedar_> all of those support tls Jucato?
[03:36] <problema-rede> I had two network cards. One onboard and another off-board. I removed off-board and alone on-board, but linux left the only one that it was as eth1. How to make this only network card to be eth0?
[03:36] <BluesKaj> Firefox has an FTP addon"FireFTP"
[03:36] <Jucato> I think Konqueror does
[03:37] <Schuenemann> kftpgrabber
[03:37] <Schuenemann> !kftpgrabber
[03:37] <ubotu> kftpgrabber: KDE FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.0beta1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 989 kB, installed size 2792 kB
[03:39] <igor> hi
[03:40] <atidem> problema-rede: add to '/etc/modules.conf' line 'alias eth0 driver_name'
[03:41] <mart81> ok, weird question but here it comes... is there a keyboard shortcut in konsole the wipe the whole line you've just typed?
[03:43] <problema-rede> atidem: but i have only 1 network e not exist line alis eth1 driver_name
[03:43] <problema-rede> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[03:43] <problema-rede> #
[03:43] <problema-rede> # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded
[03:44] <problema-rede> # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are ignored.
[03:44] <problema-rede> lp
[03:44] <problema-rede> # Generated by sensors-detect on Thu Feb  8 10:43:21 2007
[03:44] <problema-rede> # I2C adapter drivers
[03:44] <problema-rede> # modprobe unknown adapter NVIDIA i2c adapter 0 at 1:00.0
[03:44] <problema-rede> # modprobe unknown adapter NVIDIA i2c adapter 1 at 1:00.0
[03:44] <problema-rede> # modprobe unknown adapter NVIDIA i2c adapter 2 at 1:00.0
[03:44] <problema-rede> i2c-sis96x
[03:44] <problema-rede> # I2C chip drivers
[03:44] <problema-rede> eeprom
[03:44] <problema-rede> w83781d
[03:44] <problema-rede> # Warning: the required module smbus-arp is not currently installed on your system.
[03:44] <problema-rede> # For status of 2.6 kernel ports see http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/supported.html
[03:44] <problema-rede> # If driver is built-in to the kernel, or unavailable, comment out the following line.
[03:44] <problema-rede> smbus-arp
[03:44] <problema-rede> it is my modules file
[03:45] <gnomefreak> problema-rede: use pastebin please
[03:45] <problema-rede> what is pastebin ?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> !pastebin | problema-rede
[03:46] <ubotu> problema-rede: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:46] <problema-rede> ok
[03:46] <larson9999> problema-rede: err, read the topic of the channels you join at least
[03:46] <problema-rede> ok,
[03:47] <atidem> problema-rede: which part of my phrase is not clear?
[03:48] <Schuenemann> !cdrdao
[03:48] <ubotu> cdrdao: records CDs in Disk-At-Once (DAO) mode. In component main, is extra. Version 1:1.2.1-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 400 kB, installed size 1092 kB
[03:58] <flippy> hello all
[03:59] <MoonAngel> kde forever
[03:59] <Dr_willis> howdy
[04:00] <flippy> cpk1 are you still here?
[04:00] <problema-rede> atidem: by default, linux use eth0 when only have 1 network card. Why I my computer not?
[04:01] <atidem> problema-rede: probably, you have installed kubuntu when the system had two nics
[04:03] <problema-rede> yes, one onboard e another offboard. But I removed the off-board, and now the only network card is named eth1. How I return to default (eth0 for only network card)?
[04:04] <problema-rede> Where is the config file that put eth1 name on network card?
[04:05] <Lynoure> problema-rede: you mean /etc/network/interfaces ? (I'm unsure what you mean by 'name' there)
[04:08] <problema-rede> have the eth0 and eth1 too, same ip
[04:09] <problema-rede> i will delete the eth1
[04:10] <problema-rede> how i restart network on kubuntu?
[04:11] <atidem> problema-rede: $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure etherconf
[04:12] <atidem> problema-rede: if the package is not available, install it
[04:12] <mazon1> hi canu teel me what is RSDP
[04:13] <problema-rede> ok, but it only detects the eth1 netcard
[04:14] <problema-rede> when i type ifconfig, show only eth1 e lo
[04:14] <problema-rede> but, why eth1? Why not eth0?
[04:18] <Schuenemann> where can I get the kernel source?
[04:19] <kubuntuInstall> back ...
[04:19] <kubuntuInstall> question : why one of my disk isn't recognized under QTPArted ?
[04:20] <Dr_willis> does the bios even show the drive? would be the first check.
[04:24] <vegasmcpc_> ok, there's two different drivers for my graphics card, do i use the xfree86 ones or the x.org ones?
[04:25] <kubuntuInstall> xorg I think
[04:25] <kubuntuInstall> You install what drivers
[04:25] <kubuntuInstall> ubuntu/kubuntu is in xorg from a quite long time
[04:25] <vegasmcpc_> graphics card
[04:25] <kubuntuInstall> you're looking on ati site ?
[04:25] <vegasmcpc_> yea
[04:25] <kubuntuInstall> crappy card :D
[04:25] <vegasmcpc_> not really, just not well supported in linux
[04:25] <kubuntuInstall> I advise you to get fglrx drivers from the repo
[04:25] <vegasmcpc_> what do you run?
[04:26] <kubuntuInstall> ati too
[04:26] <kubuntuInstall> that's why I say it's crappy
[04:26] <vegasmcpc_> how do i run a .rpm file?
[04:27] <Schuenemann> you can convert it do .deb, but they say it's not safe
[04:27] <kubuntuInstall> owh !
[04:27] <kubuntuInstall> vegasmcpc don't even try :D
[04:27] <kubuntuInstall> rpm is for rpm based distribution
[04:27] <kubuntuInstall> ubuntu is deb based
[04:27] <fannagoganna> hi, wondering if anyone has seen the problem of kcmshell modules not appearing?
[04:28] <fannagoganna> it is really really annoying
[04:28] <Schuenemann> kubuntuInstall,  well, I only tried that once... and it worked
[04:28] <kubuntuInstall> Yes . It works ... But it's a pain in the neck to get rid of then
[04:28] <BluesKaj> one can use alien to convert rpms to deb pkgs
[04:28] <kubuntuInstall> the install goes quite well... The uninstall is crappy as hell
[04:29] <BluesKaj> however the dependencies can lead to broken pkgs
[04:31] <flippy> can someone guide me thru iso download and cd burn
[04:31] <kubuntuInstall> vegasmcpc: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/fglrx
[04:31] <flippy> ?
[04:31] <kubuntuInstall> sorry, it is in french, but it is the most elegant solution i've found so far
[04:31] <kubuntuInstall> no need for easyUbuntu, for compilation etc
[04:32] <kubuntuInstall> vegasmcpc_: just follow the instructions in green
[04:33] <kubuntuInstall> If you need help, i'm here ... As long as this buggy kubuntu install won't go
[04:33] <Schuenemann> kubuntuInstall, the uninstall was ok too :)
[04:34] <BluesKaj> flippy, if you can't do a download and burn , this not the place to ask for help, and maybe windows would be easier for you
[04:35] <kubuntuInstall> Schuenemann: it depends A LOT of the rpm packaging
[04:35] <boss_78> Do you known the French Community's channel?
[04:35] <stdin> !fr
[04:35] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:35] <boss_78> Thanks
[04:35] <Schuenemann> kubuntuInstall, well, I just tried once
[04:35] <jhutchins> !burn | flippy
[04:35] <ubotu> flippy: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:36] <kubuntuInstall> and as there are so lots rpm not compatible with themselves that a hell to know which one will go with alien
[04:36] <tanya> how do I install a gtk2 theme on kubuntu?
[04:36] <kubuntuInstall> tanya: aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[04:36] <kubuntuInstall> just kidding :D
[04:37] <Dr_willis> i alwyas install the full gnome desktop anyway :)
[04:37] <kubuntuInstall> You can install a package to do your gtk2 theme looks like KDE one
[04:37] <tanya> kubuntuInstall: do you know what the package is called?
[04:38] <kubuntuInstall> i'm looking for it
[04:38] <tanya> thanks
[04:38] <stdin> !info gtk-qt-engine
[04:38] <ubotu> Package gtk-qt-engine does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[04:38] <stdin> !info gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[04:38] <ubotu> gtk2-engines-gtk-qt: theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 0.70-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 80 kB, installed size 364 kB
[04:38] <stdin> there it is tanya ^^
[04:38] <kubuntuInstall> tanya: it is by default
[04:39] <kubuntuInstall> tanya: on the kubuntu 6.10 live cd, it is installed
[04:39] <stdin> you still need to enable it in System Settings or KControl
[04:39] <kubuntuInstall> yes
[04:39] <kubuntuInstall> But on the liveCD, it is enabled by default too
[04:39] <kubuntuInstall> but not the fonts
[04:40] <kubuntuInstall> (the kubuntu install is really buggy... That's annoying)
[04:41] <kubuntuInstall> someone know how to make the media:/ url work in konqueror ?
[04:41] <stdin> use /media
[04:41] <Dr_willis> type in mediaL/
[04:41] <kubuntuInstall> I think a service isn't working
[04:41] <Dr_willis> type in media:/
[04:41] <kubuntuInstall> thanks DrWillis lol
[04:41] <Dr_willis> is what i do. :)  but there can be issues with using some programs and media:/ thats why it normally defaults to /media/
[04:41] <Dr_willis> or so i hear.
[04:41] <stdin> both media:/ and /media work (tho slightly differently)
[04:42] <Dr_willis> i just 'discovered'    ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/    the other day. :)
[04:42] <Dr_willis> and by-uuid
[04:42] <slyfox> This is so annoying is there a fix to make Kwallet work? I am getting pissed of becasue I have to enter passwords for Kmail and Kopete every time I start them ?
[04:43] <Dr_willis> someone was asking how to get the uuid's easially.. theres how.
[04:43] <kubuntuInstall> stdin: /media is only a acces to the filesystem , no ?
[04:43] <stdin> kubuntuInstall: no, it shows non-mounted devices too, like media:/
[04:44] <kubuntuInstall> Dr_willis: the problem with media:/ is that when I click on a device, it popup an error
[04:44] <kubuntuInstall> that's why i think some service/daemon is missing
[04:44] <kubuntuInstall> and when i got under kubuntu after installing kubuntu-desktop, the media:/ url didn't even open !
[04:44] <jhutchins> /media is a mount point in the filesystem, like /usr or /mnt
[04:45] <stdin> jhutchins: not in konqueror
[04:45] <jhutchins> stdin: Yes.
[04:45] <jhutchins> media:/ is not.
[04:45] <kubuntuInstall> stdin: for me it isn't the same at all !
[04:46] <slyfox> jhutchins: how do you overcome Kwallet frustration ?
[04:46] <stdin>  I have unmounted devices in /media, and they don't show in 'ls /media'
[04:46] <jhutchins> slyfox: I grumble and don't use that box much.
[04:46] <jhutchins> slyfox: Not enough to fix it anyway.
[04:46] <slyfox> jhutchins: is that Kwaller-KDE problem or Kubuntu ?
[04:46] <jhutchins> slyfox: I run Mandriva most of the time, it allows me to disable kwallet and get on with life.
[04:47] <slyfox> jhutchins: but how do you make aplicaitons rememmebr passwords - kmail and kopete ?
[04:47] <jhutchins> Then again, Mandriva is still on 3.5.4, which may be part of it.
[04:47] <jhutchins> slyfox: They do just fine.  I check the "rember/save password" box, and they warn me, then do it.
[04:48] <flippy> can any1 guide me thru an iso unzip, mds5sum, and cd burn?
[04:48] <slyfox> jhutchins: so if I can disable Kwallet, then applciaitons will remmebr passwords instead of Kwallet ?
[04:48] <jhutchins> flippy: Did you read the web page the bot sent you earlier?
[04:48] <jhutchins> slyfox: They're supposed to, but in kubuntu I've had problems.  They rember the password, but they STILL want to bring up kwallet.
[04:49] <jhutchins> slyfox: I don't think I've had the dialog box to set up kwallet come up in kubuntu, come to think of it, you might be able to go into kwallet settings and disable it.
[04:49] <jhutchins> flippy: ?
[04:51] <Dr_willis> unzip? you found a ziped iso?
[04:51] <kubuntuInstall> Yes Dr_willis, winrar open them, it is only a zip file
[04:52] <kubuntuInstall> just kidding \o/
[04:52] <kubuntuInstall> reboot ing
[04:52] <Dr_willis> The trout wasent fresh.
[04:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:54] <jhutchins> I think it's wierd how reluctant people are to just try something without someone telling them what to do.
[04:57] <BluesKaj> afraid to break something , jhutchins :)
[04:57] <marcus> lu al*
[04:58] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: I run into the same problem teaching horseback riding though.
[04:58] <marcus> c quoi le canal francais
[04:58] <Schuenemann> !fr
[04:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:58] <marcus> merci
[04:58] <ag3r> hi
[04:58] <Schuenemann> mercy? :-O
[04:58] <ag3r> my kubuntu bar has dissapear
[04:58] <marcus> !fr
[04:58] <ag3r> or is grey
[04:58] <BluesKaj> yeah i used to be a ski instructor , no pain no gain ...gotta learn from yer mistakes
[04:59] <marcus> list
[04:59] <ag3r> how can i put back?
[05:00] <jhutchins> ag3r: Have you restarted kubuntu?
[05:00] <Schuenemann> marcus, /join #kubuntu-fr
[05:00] <ag3r> i hava to restart?
[05:00] <jhutchins> ag3r: Or just logged out and back in?
[05:00] <ag3r> i cant log out
[05:00] <ag3r> theres no icons in the bar
[05:00] <jhutchins> ag3r: No, there's a way to restart it using dcop, but I don't remember it.
[05:00] <jhutchins> Do you have a little bar with a triangle at the edge of the screen?
[05:01] <ag3r> no
[05:01] <ag3r> the bar is completely grey
[05:01] <BluesKaj> ag3r, right clikck in the desktop , configure desktop ,behavior
[05:01] <jhutchins> ag3r: It's gray, but the rest of your desktop isn't?
[05:01] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: I think he needs to restart kicker maybe.
[05:01] <ag3r> yep
[05:01] <ag3r> beryl is fuckin me
[05:01] <ag3r> xD
[05:02] <marcus> lol
[05:02] <jhutchins> ag3r: Oh.  Beryl.  Nevermind.  Beryl is broken.
[05:02] <BluesKaj> oh no wonder , that damn eye candy again'
[05:02] <ag3r> hehehe
[05:02] <ag3r> the nvidia drivers are incorrect or something
[05:02] <ag3r> beryl functions but the windows bar dissapear
[05:02] <jhutchins> ag3r: We banish you to #ubuntu-effects
[05:02] <BluesKaj> watch yer language ag3r , this si a family channel
[05:02] <ag3r> okei
[05:02] <ag3r> thx
[05:03] <BluesKaj> or #beryl
[05:04] <jackman> hola
[05:12] <smoze> what is wrong with ALSA? i cannot seem to get it work from time to time...
[05:13] <BluesKaj> I'll bet you have 2 soundcards , right ?
[05:13] <smoze> no, just one integrated to motherboard
[05:14] <smoze> errorlogs tell me that it is busy?
[05:14] <smoze> and it is not
[05:15] <BluesKaj> ati ?
[05:15] <ubuntu> damnit fuck fuck... Kubuntu didn't install well again ... Twice ...
[05:15] <ubuntu> I'll instal ubuntu classic then, :/
[05:16] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, don't use bad language pls !
[05:16] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Did you try the alternate install CD?
[05:16] <BluesKaj> !language
[05:16] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:16] <jhutchins> ubuntu: I hear it can be helpful.
[05:17] <smoze> there's no ati in this machine
[05:17] <ubuntu> jhutchins: oh ? What is it ?
[05:17] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Check the kubuntu site about it.  I just know it deals with some more difficult hardware and has more options.
[05:17] <pmjdebruijn> if I try to remove OpenOffice.org from my system adept says that would break things
[05:17] <pmjdebruijn> how can I get around that
[05:17] <jhutchins> pmjdebruijn: What does it say it will break?
[05:17] <pmjdebruijn> is it a bug in adapet?
[05:18] <BluesKaj> smoze, click on the mixer and tell me what is written on the bottom beside the slider
[05:18] <ubuntu> I don't have odd hardware ... Ubuntu install perfectly on my box
[05:18] <smoze> BluesKaj: HDA Intel
[05:18] <BluesKaj> pmjdebruijn, it will remove dependencies required by other programs
[05:18] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:19] <pmjdebruijn> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[05:19] <pmjdebruijn> BluesKaj, afaik no programs have dependancies on OOo
[05:19] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Well, you could always install ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop on it, see if that works.
[05:19] <pmjdebruijn> jhutchins, that worked fine here
[05:19] <jhutchins> pmjdebruijn: Were you using the GUI to remove it?
[05:19] <pmjdebruijn> jhutchins, yeah, why?
[05:20] <BluesKaj> smoze, ok have you checked sys/settings, sound/autodetect ?
[05:20] <ubuntu> jhutchins: that's what I got before, but the media:/ url didn't work
[05:21] <stuart> can someone offer advice on bittornado
[05:21] <smoze> i'll check them again...
[05:21] <leiar> is it possible to apt-get scribus 1,3?
[05:21] <pmjdebruijn> leiar, scribus-ng
[05:21] <BluesKaj> stuart, use Ktorrent
[05:22] <leiar> thanks
[05:22] <stuart> BluesKaj, I just installed bittornado and it's gone mental
[05:22] <stuart> launched it and no gui came up, but firestarter is logging "events"
[05:22] <stuart> i cant finf the process in ksysguard
[05:22] <BluesKaj> ktorrent is designed for kde m bittornado isn't...
[05:22] <stuart> find
[05:23] <smoze> you know, mediaplayers work fine on this system.. other software cant make a sound
[05:23] <stuart> how to stop it?
[05:23] <BluesKaj> launched what, stuart ?
[05:24] <leiar> pmjde: what repository
[05:24] <stuart> after installation "Bittornado client" appears in KDE menu
[05:24] <BluesKaj> smoze you prolly need to install codecs
[05:24] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[05:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:25] <stuart> thats what i started BluesKaj
[05:25] <jhutchins> smoze: Some software defaults to arts, you have to tell it to use alsa.
[05:25] <BluesKaj> stuart, which version of kubuntu ?
[05:26] <stuart> BluesKaj, can't recall if it's lts or edgy
[05:26] <smoze> jhutchins: it is trying to use alsa
[05:26] <BluesKaj> bittornado default on ubuntu ?
[05:26] <jhutchins> ubuntu: If your only problem is media:/ not working...
[05:27] <smoze> ALSA error: pcm_hw.c:1246 snd_pcm_hw_open: open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed (Device or resource busy)
[05:27] <jhutchins> ubuntu: What version of kubuntu are you installing?  With what version of KDE?
[05:27] <ubuntu> jhutchins: That's quite important for me
[05:27] <ubuntu> last release
[05:27] <ubuntu> edgy
[05:27] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Which KDE?  It's just a shortcut, you can learn to live without it very quickly.  Most people don't even use it.
[05:28] <kubuntuInstall> mdr
[05:28] <BluesKaj> kubuntuInstall, change yer nick it's tooo confusing
[05:28] <kubuntuInstall> BluesKaj: is it better ?
[05:29] <leiar> pmjde: which repository do i use to apt-get scribus-ng
[05:29] <Dr_willis> !find scribus-ng
[05:29] <ubotu> Found: scribus-ng
[05:29] <kubuntuInstall> jhutchins: I was used to it when I used it
[05:29] <Dr_willis> !info scribus-ng
[05:29] <ubotu> scribus-ng: Open Source Desktop Page Layout - developmental branch. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.3.4.dfsg-1 (edgy), package size 6944 kB, installed size 20952 kB
[05:30] <stuart> BluesKaj, maybe i should just logout and login and see if it restarts... ?
[05:30] <kubuntuInstall> jhutchins: And I don't know why it didn't work again. I'm not satisfied with a soft which don't give me all its power
[05:31] <kubuntuInstall> jhutchins: I know, it is not a killer feature, but since I know it worked, i'm annoyed it was not working anymore
[05:31] <smoze> ok, problem solved
[05:31] <jhutchins> kubuntuInstall: You might ask in #kde, they might know what process controls that.
[05:32] <jhutchins> kubuntuInstall: Don't storm in saying bad things about the software though.  You won't get any help that way.
[05:32] <jhutchins> smoze: what was it?
[05:32] <jhutchins> kubuntuInstall: Also, when somebody asks you something like "which version of KDE do you have", you'll get much better help if you answer.
[05:33] <kubuntuInstall> jhutchins: And since I installed all my kubuntu desktop when I was under ubuntu. I thought it was just because of some problem with the apt. So i decided to install the whole kubuntu from the cd, and then I got disappointed :D
[05:33] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all, i'm on kubuntu edgy with 3.5.6 kde, and i can't install libkonq4-dev because i think that is broken.
[05:33] <kubuntuInstall> at the moment, I'm under the liveCD
[05:33] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me
[05:34] <smoze> there seems to be a bug in amarok. it kept reserving alsa until turned off.
[05:34] <jhutchins> kubuntuInstall: Does media:/ work on the live CD?
[05:34] <kubuntuInstall> jhutchins: no
[05:34] <leiar> I've got a dapper installation. May I apt-get from an edgy addresse, like swap dapper with edgy in the sources.list?
[05:34] <jhutchins> smoze: Ah.  Amorok is updated frequently, you should maybe ask about it in #amarok and report the bug.
[05:35] <stimey> can anyone help me change my keyboard to kanji characters
[05:35] <kubuntuInstall> jhutchins: KDE 3.5.5
[05:35] <jhutchins> Hm, I thought the CD was 3.5.4 or earlier.
[05:35] <kubuntuInstall> leiar: I think you can, but you must use a dist-upgrade
[05:35] <BluesKaj> leiar, recommend you install edgy , not all repos pkgs will work in dapper
[05:35] <smoze> xmms does not have this bug
[05:36] <kubuntuInstall> otherwise depencies will be broken and you will have an unstable/broken system
[05:36] <jhutchins> leiar: The majority of stability problems in edgy are systems that were dist-upgraded, but yes, you can do it.
[05:36] <stimey>      
[05:36] <jhutchins> leiar: Back up your data, be prepared to do a clean install if it breaks.
[05:36] <leiar> BluesKaj. Is that easy, or do i have o start all over again? My case is to install scribus 1.3
[05:37] <BluesKaj> sorry leiar , dunno about scribus :( ... jhutchins ?
[05:37] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: NFI.
[05:37] <rektaali> hey
[05:37] <kubuntuInstall> leiar: I just get from ubuntu dapper to ubuntu edgy without a problem
[05:38] <kubuntuInstall> leiar: I didn't updated my dapper from 3 month when I updated to edgy
[05:38] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Some sort of big "Desktop Publishing" package.
[05:39] <leiar> seems I got scribus 1.3 when I uncommented universe and multiverse in dapper :-)
[05:39] <BluesKaj> leiar, I upgraded to edgy online with some help so...
[05:39] <BluesKaj> !upgrade
[05:39] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:40] <jhutchins> leiar: What do you use scribus for?
[05:41] <leiar> I'm a teacher. i'm planning to make o course where I teach aother teachers to use scribus in publishing school-newspaper. Using Scribus instead of Microsoft Publihser
[05:42] <leiar> If we learn scribus all schools are able to get this programme without paying (it's free for windows as well)
[05:42] <jhutchins> leiar: Cool.  Newspaper then.
[05:42] <BluesKaj> leiar, I know this is an obvious question, but have you checked adept and synaptic ?
[05:42] <jhutchins> leiar: So you _have_ 1.3, you're just wondering about upgrading to Edgy?
[05:43] <leiar> BluesKaj: In synaptic I only found scribus 1.2, but that was maybe because I hadn't uncomented universe and multiverse in sources.list?
[05:43] <leiar> When I uncommented universe and mulitverse, I got 1.3 (scribus-ng)
[05:44] <jhutchins> leiar: So...  You've solved your problem then?
[05:45] <rolle> effe probere
[05:45] <rolle> wow
[05:45] <leiar> yes. Haven't use synaptic much. It's based on the sources.list, isn't it?
[05:45] <BluesKaj> yup
[05:46] <BluesKaj> as is adept
[05:46] <rolle> is hier volk van Leuven?
[05:46] <BluesKaj> !de
[05:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:47] <leiar> ok
[05:47] <BluesKaj> heh my repos have only the 1.24 vers , leiar and I'm in edgy
[05:48] <BluesKaj> 1.3 must be the latest release but it hasn't made it to the to my edgy repos yet
[05:49] <leiar> How do you adress replies to a nick. I see red colour when you write to me..
[05:50] <kubuntuInstall> just type the exact name :D
[05:50] <kubuntuInstall> in konversation, type the beginning of the name and then push TAB button
[05:50] <leiar> If you want 1.3 you must uncomment universe or multiverse or both, I uncommented both before apt-get update
[05:50] <kubuntuInstall> you'll get the list of name begining with that
[05:50] <BluesKaj> ok , leiar
[05:50] <underdog5004> what is the wireless manager for plain ubuntu?
[05:50] <leiar> kubuntuInstall: of course, the debian way...
[05:51] <BluesKaj> I have not commented repos :)
[05:51] <BluesKaj> err no
[05:51] <underdog5004> also, what is the IRC client for ubuntu as well?
[05:51] <smoze> omfg, whole system crashed :D
[05:51] <kubuntuInstall> leiar: don't know if it is the debian way, but a lot of completion engine work with the tab button :D
[05:52] <BluesKaj> xchat in ubuntu ?
[05:52] <leiar> kubuntuInstall: not in windows though :-)
[05:52] <BluesKaj> yes , tab works in mirc
[05:52] <kubuntuInstall> lol leiar, sure :D
[05:52] <kubuntuInstall> leiar: but you can have a really basic completion in the cmd.exe from windows
[05:53] <kubuntuInstall> it only complet the file/dir names
[05:53] <Gaz> anyone know a good equaliser application?
[05:53] <BluesKaj> theres one in xmms
[05:53] <Gaz> i have kmix, but it does not have an equaliser
[05:54] <BluesKaj> amarok also has eq
[05:56] <vegasmcpc> what's the shortcut to the konsole?
[05:56] <kubuntuInstall> it is in the system
[05:56] <Gaz> amarok does, however, i'm playing this terence mckenna mp3, and his voice is all outta shape
[05:56] <kubuntuInstall> KMenu > System
[05:56] <vegasmcpc> i installed the ati drivers and for some reason it screwed up the resolution on my monitor
[05:56] <vegasmcpc> can't see the kmenu
[05:56] <Gaz> alt-f2
[05:56] <Gaz> then type konsole
[05:56] <vegasmcpc> also, do you guys know how to set your resolution through the konsole?
[05:57] <boingolov> I just upgraded to edgy and now Ctrl + Tab switches desktops.  I want to disable this so that I can switch tabs in firefox with Ctrl Tab.  Any thoughts?
[05:58] <BluesKaj> do you have a mouse ? ...use that
[05:59] <vegasmcpc> is there a keyboard shortcut to the kmenu?
[06:00] <boingolov> BluesKaj, they let you talk now?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> boingolov,  remove the shortcut for ctrl-tab
[06:00] <Schuenemann> boingolov, how about ctrl+ pgup or pgdown ?
[06:01] <Schuenemann> vegasmcpc, alt f1, I believe
[06:01] <vegasmcpc> nevermind, i was able to do it
[06:01] <vegasmcpc> didn't think of just scrolling the mouse to where the kmenu was supposed to be
[06:01] <vegasmcpc> it defaulted my stuff to 640x480
[06:02] <boingolov> Dr_willis, thanks
[06:02] <Schuenemann> boingolov, ctrl + pgup/pgdown is better, you can choose which direction to switch
[06:04] <der0b> hey folks, is there a kde app that allows me to configure what happens when I close the laptop lid?  I can't find it in the kde control panel
[06:08] <kubuntuInstall> By the way, the cam function of kopete works with which protocol ?
[06:08] <Tresko> der0b: any option when right-cliking the systray hibernate icon?
[06:14] <atidem> kubuntuInstall: yahoo and msn protocols
[06:20] <kubuntuInstall> atidem: thanks :)
[06:21] <atidem> kubuntuInstall: you are welcome
[06:21] <der0b> tresko: I'm not seeing anything that allows me to configure the lid
[06:22] <kubuntuInstall> last try of kubuntu install with the alternate CD
[06:22] <kubuntuInstall> if it doesn't work, go ubuntu ;(
[06:22] <Tresko> der0b: if you just click the battry icon?
[06:22] <der0b> sorry tresko, I'm a fool :P
[06:22] <der0b> thanks I see it now..
[06:24] <lordtutu> Hy! Im hun
[06:25] <c> hola
[06:26] <BluesKaj> what is a *.mdf file ?
[06:27] <lordtutu> vitual cd
[06:27] <lordtutu> aps alcohol and demon tools
[06:28] <Dr_willis> yep.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> used to use those all the time
[06:28] <lordtutu> im big litle eng :P
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Untill i converted to the true way of Linux!
[06:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:28] <lordtutu> uh
[06:28] <BluesKaj> what do I use to play them ?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  under linux - nothing that i am aware of.
[06:29] <lordtutu> by!
[06:29] <BluesKaj> ok, what about windows ?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> alcohol120% or DemonTools (yes its a STUPID name)
[06:30] <Dr_willis> of course using those tools under windows -- causes a whole nest  of other issues as well. :)
[06:30] <BluesKaj> don't ahve either one , is there a way to convert to iso or ....
[06:30] <atidem> BluesKaj: try acetoneISO
[06:30] <Dr_willis> demontools is free.. ya could use it to mount the .mdf then access it as if it was a normal cdrom drive
[06:30] <Dr_willis> never seen/heard of acetoneiso :)
[06:31] <BluesKaj> in linux or windows atidem ?
[06:31] <atidem> Dr_willis: now you know it
[06:31] <atidem> :-)
[06:31] <atidem> gnu/linux
[06:31] <Dr_willis> theres also kiso. but not sure if it handles mdf
[06:33] <achim> hi
[06:33] <BluesKaj> ok   anyway gotta go ...later gents
[06:34] <cavallo_> I have in xorg.conf this line:  "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" <-- but I can select the resolution 1400x1050. Is there any reason for that ?
[06:34] <bewl> you have that on all depths?
[06:34] <cavallo_> yes
[06:37] <Cavallito> anybody ? :)
[06:39] <lordtutu> hy! i need help hun kubuntu irc adres plz
[06:39] <lordtutu> :P
[06:41] <lordtutu> Magyar van valaki?
[06:41] <HymnToLife> !hr
[06:41] <ubotu> za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[06:41] <lordtutu> Hungary :)
[06:42] <Skuller> hey guys...i was using this site to get the w32 codecs...but when i do apt-get update it cant connect to these repos coz of 'connection timeout.........http://www.debianadmin.com/install-libdvdcss-and-w32-video-codecs-in-debian-and-ubuntu.html
[06:43] <lordtutu> im MPlayer.com W32 codec download
[06:43] <mzanfardino> I've just installed kubuntu and I have a dual-head nvidia video card.  I've configured each head with it's own desktop and want to duplicate the settings from one desktop to the other.  What files/directories should I could in order to duplicate the desktop look and interface (I don't want to have to go through all the settings steps again if I can avoid it).
[06:44] <mzanfardino> could-copy
[06:44] <mzanfardino> could=copy*
[06:44] <Skuller> lordtutu: i am sorry...but i dont get you
[06:45] <Tresko> Skuller: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[06:46] <Skuller> Tresko: yes...i have added most of the repos there in my source list
[06:46] <michal_> hi guys
[06:46] <Tresko> Skuller: sorry, it seems for ubuntu... I think there are an for kubuntu too...
[06:46] <Tresko> Skuller: connection error?
[06:47] <michal_> I nees some links to install asus EAX1650PRO
[06:47] <True_Friend> After upgrading to KDE 3.5.6 my kopete is not working properly i cannot transfer or receive through it, always get an error message while it was ok on kde 3.5.5 should it downgrade to 3.5.5?
[06:47] <Skuller> Tresko: i followed the instrucions on this page...wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb....and get a 'connection timeooout' when doing the update
[06:48] <jhutchins> !formats > Skuller
[06:48] <Tresko> Skuller: that is for Debian... Youre running kubuntu right?
[06:48] <hyper_ch> !formats > hyper_ch
[06:49] <Tresko> Skuller: that don't explain the connection error though...
[06:49] <Skuller> Tresko: yes...if you look at the bottom of the page the instruction are for ubunty too
[06:49] <Tresko> Skuller: Try another mirror?
[06:49] <Skuller> Tresko: yes...i think the update thingy is not able to connect to those repos that i ave added...prolly they ave bin removed or something
[06:49] <Skuller> Tresko: how to use a mirror?
[06:50] <michal_> -_-'
[06:50] <michal_> you look & you see yourself
[06:51] <Dr_willis> unless you are  a vampire
[06:51] <michal_> :)
[06:51] <michal_> :[
[06:51] <Dr_willis> 0_o
[06:51] <Dr_willis>  + + + +
[06:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:51] <Tresko> Skuller: mirrors are just copies of the original repos... Can this help out? http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/blog/lista-repository-sourceslist-ottimizzata-per-ubuntu-kubuntu-linux/
[06:51] <Skuller> i am using this site for getting the w32 codecs......is it alrite?...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[06:51] <jim_> hi all
[06:51] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[06:51] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:51] <True_Friend> After upgrading to KDE 3.5.6 my kopete is not working properly i cannot transfer or receive files through it, always get an error message while it was ok on kde 3.5.5 should it downgrade to 3.5.5?
[06:53] <Tresko> True_Friend: 3.5.6 are pretty bleeding edge so it is not a surprise things like that happens...
[06:53] <michal_> how to install asus EAX1650PRO... links?
[06:53] <True_Friend> so i have to downgrade i think it would best
[06:54] <michal_> ati
[06:54] <pasha898> hi all
[06:54] <michal_> hi
[06:54] <jhutchins> True_Friend: You might find and remove any files in .kde related to kopete and see if that helps (back them up, move them somewhere, don't just delte).
[06:55] <jhutchins> michal_: It's a Radeon.
[06:55] <jhutchins> michal_: Look here;
[06:55] <jhutchins> !ati | michal_
[06:55] <ubotu> michal_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:56] <michal_> yes
[06:56] <michal_> wery thanx
[06:57] <voicu> is there some logs about the total trafiic of ktorrent? just curious
[06:57] <voicu> *are
[06:59] <pasha898> someone knows how to access windows workgroup through linux, just curious if i can use linux at work instead windows
[06:59] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell pasha898 about samba | pasha898, see the private message from ubotu.
[06:59] <voicu> pasha898: try smb:/ in konqueror
[06:59] <voicu> or that
[07:02] <pasha898> thanks i ll try
[07:02] <ubuntu> hi i got a dvd rw drive today but kubuntu crashs wen i plug it in any advice
[07:05] <HymnToLife> usb drive ?
[07:05] <ubuntu> anybody
[07:07] <Dr_willis> clarify.
[07:13] <pasha898> i tried smb:/ it says there is a firewall
[07:14] <pasha898> no access
[07:15] <coreymon77> hi guys
[07:16] <coreymon77> i think my sound settings are all messed up
[07:16] <coreymon77> how can i reset them to the way that they were originally
[07:18] <coreymon77> what i mean is
[07:18] <coreymon77> the levels in kmixer are all messed up
[07:18] <coreymon77> and i dont know how they were originally
[07:18] <coreymon77> how do i reset it?
[07:19] <ni-hao777> i need reinstall APT becasue i wrote some bad and dont work
[07:19] <ni-hao777> if any bodie know how reinstall it
[07:19] <coreymon77> my sound is all messed up now
[07:19] <ni-hao777> i wiil apreciate
[07:19] <coreymon77> so how do i reset kmix to the original levels?
[07:21] <manu_> hi i wanted to activate standy with nv driver, but in xorg are 2 section device in which one shall i change it?
[07:21] <manu_> http://paste.debian.net/22118
[07:21] <ni-hao777> ANY CAN TELL ME HOW REINSTALL APT AGAIN BECASUE DONT WORK
[07:22] <coreymon77> can you guys please help?
[07:22] <Dr_willis> ni-hao777,  you are thinking in windows terms...
[07:22] <jhutchins> coreymon77: stop kdm, Move .kde/share/config/kmixrc to somewhere, restart kdm.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> ni-hao777,  whats the error you are getting when you try an 'apt-get install somthing'
[07:22] <ni-hao777> THANKS
[07:22] <coreymon77> ???
[07:22] <ni-hao777> I GET SOME PACKET FROM INTERNET
[07:22] <coreymon77> you mean do that in text mode
[07:22] <coreymon77> ?
[07:23] <ni-hao777> AND MODIFIQUED SOME LINES TO GET THEE ACKTE
[07:23] <manu_> ni-hao777: apt-get update && apt-get install apt
[07:23] <Dr_willis> ni-hao777,  you really should turn off your caps lock. I imagine most of the channel has you on ignreo by now.
[07:23] <manu_> xD
[07:23] <manu_> ^^
[07:23] <jhutchins> ni-hao777: capslock, please.
[07:23] <ni-hao777> BUT AFTER IT THE ADRESS
[07:23] <ni-hao777> nicew
[07:23] <ubuntu> so any of u have this problem
[07:24] <ni-hao777> but now it dont work becasue these lines be referd to something
[07:24] <ni-hao777> dont work with apt or other thing
[07:24] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  cant say that i ever have. -
[07:24] <coreymon77> jhutchins: i do that in text mode?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> !dontwork
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dontwork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <coreymon77> or should i just shut down kmix and then do it
[07:24] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Yeah, Ctrl-Alt-F1
[07:24] <ni-hao777> but i need remodifque it for can work with it again
[07:24] <Dr_willis> 'dont work' is rather vague.. what sort of erroe massges is it giving.
[07:25] <ni-hao777> givme a minute
[07:25] <jhutchins> coreymon77: I'd prefer you got the whole kde system out of the way in case something wants sound access while you're doing this.
[07:25] <coreymon77> oaky
[07:25] <coreymon77> so what command should i d
[07:25] <coreymon77> o
[07:25] <linopil> in kopete how do I see hebrew font ?
[07:25] <ni-hao777> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[07:25] <jhutchins> sudo service kdm stop
[07:25] <jhutchins> mv .kde/share/config/kmixrc oldmix
[07:25] <jhutchins> sudo service kdm start
[07:26] <ni-hao777> you get?
[07:26] <jhutchins> ni-hao777: What happens when you run apt-setup?
[07:26] <ubuntu> dr willis do u no how to detect new hardware
[07:26] <Dr_willis> ni-hao777,  did you try 'sudo apt-setup' and 'sudo apt-get update' yet ?
[07:26] <ni-hao777> it open so fast and close foritself
[07:26] <linopil> in kopete how do I see hebrew font ?
[07:26] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  i plug in a cd drive and i edit the fstab to mount it wheever
[07:27] <ni-hao777> no
[07:27] <jhutchins> ni-hao777: you need to open a terminal and do it there, so you can see what happens.
[07:27] <Skuller> hey guys...i am sick of trying but i just want to be able to play DivX....can anyone help me please?
[07:27] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  if the drive is having some issues - 'dmesg' command may be giving out some errors/information
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Skuller,  i play them all the time.. i normally use vlc.
[07:27] <ni-hao777> yes i did it and send me a message to do apt setuo but dont
[07:27] <jhutchins> Skuller: Did you read the factoid?
[07:28] <ni-hao777> can do it work
[07:28] <Skuller> Dr_willis: i wanna use kaffe
[07:28] <Skuller> Skuller: factoid?
[07:28] <jhutchins> ni-hao777: Yes, sorry, I forget to use sudo.
[07:28] <Skuller> !divx
[07:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:28] <jhutchins> sudo apt-setup, as Dr_willis told you.
[07:29] <smile> DIIIIIIIIIIIIVVVVVVVVVVVVVXXXXXXXXXXX .. u can use xine-ui ;-)
[07:29] <ubuntu> http://www.linuxforums.org/reviews/starting_ubhow do u run that cos it crashis in boot up
[07:29] <linopil> in kopete how do I see hebrew font ?
[07:29] <jhutchins> Skuller: Also google divx kubuntu.
[07:30] <Skuller> jhutchins: oh..thnx
[07:30] <ubuntu> the artacal not there
[07:30] <linopil> is there such a thing ,like windows , global non-UNICODE  language in UBUNTu ?
[07:30] <jhutchins> ubuntu: what are you trying to do?
[07:31] <jhutchins> linopil: Yeah, I've seen people actually post hebrew characters here in IRC, and it displayed right-to-left on my system.
[07:31] <Skuller> guys i also have installed w32 codecs.....shouldnt this have enabled me to play DivX in Kaffeine already?
[07:31] <jhutchins> linopil: I don't know how to set it up though.
[07:31] <underdog5004> cool
[07:31] <jhutchins> linopil: Don't you just select your location?
[07:31] <jhutchins> Skuller: Nope.
[07:32] <ni-hao777> used apt setup and dont work
[07:32] <ni-hao777> and with sudo apt-setup no work
[07:32] <jhutchins> Skuller: poke around on google, there's a lot to explain about it, but I know it's not hard.
[07:32] <jhutchins> Skuller: divx isn't part of w32codecs.
[07:33] <jhutchins> ni-hao777: Gotta tell us what it DOES do, not just "no work".
[07:33] <tuco> Hello all. I just installed Kubuntu and need some help to install drivers for my ati card and audigy 2 zs notebook. Thank you.
[07:33] <jhutchins> !ati > tuco
[07:33] <ni-hao777> ok im learning giveme pacience
[07:34] <ni-hao777> yesterday i modified some lines to get vlc to show movies
[07:34] <tuco> Yes Hutchins
[07:34] <ni-hao777> and after it the apt dont work
[07:34] <Skuller> jhutchins: ok thnx man....i was just downloading something   to do with codecs from somewhere...if it doesnt work i will hunt on google..thnx once again
[07:34] <ni-hao777> because teold me like one line to refer is bad or dont are correct
[07:35] <ni-hao777> i need correct it for work
[07:35] <ni-hao777> and get the actualization and pack if i want install
[07:35] <tuco> Is there something I need to change in the adapt manager (repositories) so I can get more packages?
[07:35] <jhutchins> !repositories
[07:35] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:35] <Skuller> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:35] <Skuller> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:35] <jhutchins> tuco: Generally most of us want to enable univers and multiverse.
[07:36] <Skuller> umm...what do i do?
[07:36] <tuco> Yes...that is it Hutchins :-)
[07:36] <jhutchins> Skuller: sudo?
[07:36] <Skuller> my konsole crashed last time
[07:36] <LjL> Skuller: is another process using it? do you have other APT programs open?
[07:36] <tuco> How can I change that?
[07:36] <LjL> !adept crash fix
[07:36] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:36] <Skuller> LjL: no...
[07:36] <ni-hao777> sudo dont work
[07:36] <ni-hao777> becasue told me like a line in sourcelist is bad or bad configure
[07:36] <coreymon77> jhutchins: it didnt work
[07:37] <Skuller> LjL: ok thnx it worked now
[07:37] <coreymon77> cymore: the levels are still messed
[07:37] <ni-hao777> and need how to get in the source list to modify it and get it work
[07:37] <ninHer> i have just purchase a monitor with a1620 resolution but my distro doesn't recognize more than 1400
[07:37] <ni-hao777> sorry if i wrote bad im learninig inglish by myself and sometimes write bad
[07:37] <coreymon77> jhutchins: now what?
[07:37] <ninHer> what package may i install or upgrade ?
[07:38] <jhutchins> ni-hao777: Ok, edit your source list, make sure the lines look consistent, try again.
[07:38] <jhutchins> ni-hao777: Comment out anyting you want to keep to try later.
[07:38] <ni-hao777> ok i will
[07:38] <tuco> Hutchins---> what do I have to do to enable universe/multiverse?
[07:38] <ni-hao777> thanks
[07:39] <jhutchins> coreymon77: You can try stopping kdm, stopping alsa, deleting the alsa saved settings, and restarting.
[07:39] <coreymon77> umm
[07:39] <jhutchins> coreymon77: I don't know for sure where the alsa saved settings are, and I haven't tried this myself.
[07:39] <jhutchins> coreymon77: The only thing I can suggest is to just work with the mixer until you have what you want.
[07:40] <coreymon77> cant i just whipeout all of kmixers settings and reset them to default?
[07:41] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Other than what you've done?  Not that I know of, unless it's picking them up from alsa, see above.
[07:41] <coreymon77> maybe we could try this
[07:41] <coreymon77> uninstall kmix
[07:41] <coreymon77> purge it
[07:41] <Skuller> now if anyone could give me SIMPLE instructions on how to get libdvdcss2 installed please
[07:41] <coreymon77> and then reinstall
[07:41] <jhutchins> I think the mixer settings are common to all apps, and kmix changes the alsamix settings; alsamix saves the settings on shutdown, so whatever you mess up in kmix stays messed up.
[07:41] <LjL> !dvd | Skuller
[07:41] <ubotu> Skuller: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:42] <coreymon77> okay
[07:42] <LjL> Skuller: add the repository lines to /etc/apt/sources.list, and then install the way you like (sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 will work)
[07:42] <coreymon77> so
[07:42] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Might not work, because alsa could still save the settings.  If you removed kmixrc, you removed the kmix settings.
[07:42] <Skuller> LjL: thank you man
[07:42] <jhutchins> coreymon77: I agree that it would be nice if kmix had a "defaults" button, but it doesn't.
[07:42] <coreymon77> so
[07:42] <jhutchins> coreymon77: You could file a feature request with kde.
[07:42] <coreymon77> now what?
[07:43] <jhutchins> Either A) Try to remove both kmixrc and the saved alsa settings and restart, or work with the mixer.
[07:43] <jhutchins> (B).
[07:44] <tuco> Hutchins or someone else: do I have to type Universe and Multiverse in the components part?
[07:44] <coreymon77> jhutchins: one thing
[07:44] <coreymon77> when i typed in sudo service kdm stop
[07:44] <coreymon77> it gave me an error
[07:44] <jhutchins> Ah!
[07:44] <coreymon77> error: "service" command not found
[07:44] <jhutchins> Heh.  Me trying to keep up with the times.
[07:45] <coreymon77> is that the reason it may not have worked
[07:45] <coreymon77> and i could start kdm agian
[07:45] <jhutchins> coreymon77: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop then.  Same thing for "start".  When you do "start", it should pull you into the new X session.
[07:45] <coreymon77> i had to reboot
[07:45] <jhutchins> coreymon77: KDE wasstill running on console 7.
[07:46] <coreymon77> meaning that what i did didnt work?
[07:46] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Right.
[07:46] <jhutchins> Gives you something to try at least.
[07:47] <coreymon77> one thing though
[07:48] <coreymon77> other than kmixrc
[07:48] <coreymon77> there are alot of other kmix files in that folder
[07:48] <coreymon77> does removingkmixrc reset all those other files aswell?
[07:49] <coreymon77> cause there is an oldmix files in my home directory
[07:49] <coreymon77> the file was moved
[07:49] <jhutchins> coreymon77: I think I'd go ahead and delete them.
[07:49] <jhutchins> coreymon77: It was at least copied.
[07:49] <jhutchins> coreymon77: I think you're safe to rm .kde/share/config/kmixrc*
[07:49] <jhutchins> coreymon77: With kde shut down.
[07:50] <coreymon77> what about the kmixctric file
[07:50] <coreymon77> that doesnt start with kmixrc
[07:50] <coreymon77> wont the rm command not delete that?
[07:52] <coreymon77> jhutchins: would it?
[07:52] <jhutchins> Hm.  I'd move that too then.
[07:53] <tuco> Guys I can't seem to get the universe multiverse working. Any help welcome thanks.
[07:53] <coreymon77> should i just do rm .kde/share/config/kmix* ?
[07:53] <jhutchins> ctrlrc.
[07:53] <stdin> tuco: what's the problem ?
[07:53] <jhutchins> coreymon77: move kmixctrlrc first, then yes.
[07:53] <coreymon77> okay
[07:54] <coreymon77> okayy
[07:54] <coreymon77> commands?
[07:54] <tuco> Thank you Stdin. Basically I am trying to have more packages available in adept. But I have changed the lines to universe multiverse to no affect.
[07:54] <coreymon77> what are the exact commands i sould do?
[07:55] <jhutchins> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && mv .kde/share/config/kmixctrlrc . && rm .kde/share/config/kmix* && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[07:56] <stdin> tuco: It shouldn't be too hard to get you set up, can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin ( http://pastebin.ca/ ) so I can have a look ?
[07:57] <tuco> I am new to Linux sorry how and where do I type the command Din?
[07:58] <jhutchins> tuco: You may find this helpful:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[07:58] <coreymon77> jhutchins: okay
[07:58] <coreymon77> here goes
[07:58] <ninHer> i have just purchased a monitor with a1680 resolution but my distro doesn't recognize more than 1400
[07:58] <ninHer> what package may i install or upgrade ?
[07:58] <stdin> tuco: just open Kate (KMenu -> Utilities -> Kate), then open /etc/apt/sources.list in there, then copy and paste to the website
[07:58] <coreymon77> wish me luck :P
[07:58] <jhutchins> tuco: You need to open the sources file in an editor, highlight and copy the contents, then go to the pastebin and paste it.
[07:58] <LjL> !fixres > ninHer    (ninHer, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:59] <tuco> Mama mia!
[07:59] <jhutchins> tuco: It's referred to as a "steep learning curve".
[07:59] <ninHer> thanks LjL
[08:00] <linopil> !fixres
[08:00] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:00] <esaym> to compress a folder do I have to make a tar first and then use gzip?
[08:01] <linopil> in kopete how do I see hebrew font ?
[08:01] <stellar000987> is there a simpler way to listen and record stream radio station, e.g. in xmms
[08:01] <stellar000987> ?
[08:01] <linopil> ljl ty for helping convert tiff the other day
[08:02] <LjL> linopil: you're welcome, did the TIFF i sent you show properly?
[08:02] <linopil> yes perfect
[08:02] <tuco> Sorry Din. Ok I opened Kate (the editor that is) how do I get the source thingy in there?
[08:02] <linopil> in kopete how do I see hebrew font ? ljl ?
[08:03] <LjL> linopil, i've no idea honestly, i only use latin1... i think it should work automatically with UTF-8, though, just like konversation does
[08:03] <LjL> !il
[08:03] <ubotu>         :
[08:03] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[08:03] <LjL> you see this, right?
[08:03] <stdin> tuco: File -> Open, then in the "Location" box type "/etc/apt/sources.list" and click "Open"
[08:06] <tuco> Din: http://pastebin.ca/360760
[08:06] <stdin> tuco: stdin, not Din :)
[08:06] <coreymon77> jhutchins: it worked!!!
[08:06] <Skuller> !nvidia
[08:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:07] <coreymon77> thanks alot
[08:07] <tuco> A la Din? :-)
[08:08] <stdin> tuco: you seem to have removed the main and restricted repositories while adding the universe and multiverse
[08:08] <tuco> Ah
[08:08] <tuco> It was written Main Restricted before I changed it
[08:09] <tuco> What do I have to do then your Highness?
[08:09] <stdin> tuco: this is more like what it should look like: http://pastebin.ca/360764
[08:10] <linopil> ljl unfortunately #ubuntu-il not poulated yet too bad
[08:10] <linopil> *populated
[08:11] <LjL> linopil: but you see the hebrew characters there in that message? if you see them in konv, i believe you should see them in kopete too
[08:11] <LjL> but honestly i'm not very familiar with kopete
[08:11] <linopil> ljl the problem is non-unicode
[08:12] <empiric> i have ubuntu install n am using konqueror
[08:12] <stdin> tuco: if you want to, you can use source-o-matic to make a new sources.list file that will be all setup for you, you can take a look here http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:12] <linopil> ljl look in M$ windows - regional settings you have non-unicode language there on 3 tab there
[08:12] <empiric> my konqueror crashes for some times say 2 times daily
[08:12] <empiric> why
[08:12] <empiric> any idea
[08:12] <LjL> linopil: non-unicode is quite complicated in KDE i'm afraid... if you set your locale to non-unicode, things will get messed up
[08:12] <Where> empiric: are you using the latest version of Ubuntu?
[08:13] <justin_> Hello all, can anyone answer a kubuntu question?
[08:13] <saty> Hoj, je tu nekdo mluvici cesky?
[08:13] <linopil> I read about giving unicode u in Kde and I dont want that
[08:13] <stdin> !cz | saty
[08:13] <ubotu> saty: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[08:13] <linopil> simply non-unicode now are western and not hebrew codepage
[08:13] <empiric> its 6.0.6
[08:13] <stdin> justin_: ask away
[08:13] <Where> empiric: Do you have the latest packages for it?
[08:14] <empiric> yes
[08:14] <empiric> i have
[08:14] <empiric> its java based application
[08:14] <justin_> OK, I was trying to install w32codecs and lib32 ones too so I can watch avi's with Kaffeine
[08:14] <empiric> i have jre installed all good
[08:14] <empiric> my website opens
[08:14] <justin_> and I might have messed something up because now I can't sudo apt-get update
[08:14] <tuco> What do I do with the files then Stdin? Copy and paste somewhere?
[08:14] <linopil> tyvm ljl at that point I think Iwill google  << kopete codepage language >>
[08:14] <empiric> but thers 2 users there konquror crashes often
[08:14] <justin_> It gives me the error
[08:14] <justin_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:14] <justin_> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[08:15] <stdin> !aptfix | justin_
[08:15] <ubotu> justin_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:15] <stdin> justin_: use that command ^^
[08:15] <linopil> !paste > justin_
[08:15] <justin_> OK I'll try the apt fix one first
[08:16] <dettoaltrimenti> are any Gnome packages required for running X windows and KDE? for example, can I get rid of the package gnome-applets-data, or is that the package that has the kde applets too?
[08:16] <matthew> does anyone know how to find the kde configuration wizard in kubuntu?
[08:16] <stdin> tuco: 1st close kate, than press Alt-F2 and put this in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" (without quotes), then just copy and paste from the link I sent you
[08:16] <lotusleaf> matthew: alt+f2 kcontrol ? or the start up wizard? if the latter you have to install that manually
[08:16] <Where> empiric: and you have the latest version of Java, I presume, right?
[08:16] <justin_> HA, ok that worked, thanks fellas!
[08:16] <empiric> yes
[08:17] <stdin> dettoaltrimenti: there are no gnome packages needed for kde
[08:17] <Where> empiric: Is it only with this one website?
[08:17] <matthew> lotsusleaf: thanks, how do i install the wizard manually?
[08:17] <empiric> well users can have access to only this site
[08:17] <lotusleaf> matthew: you can use alt+f2 kmenuedit and add kcontrol too
[08:17] <lotusleaf> matthew: search adept for it, I forget the specific name though :P
[08:18] <lotusleaf> matthew: you might ask in #kde too
[08:18] <matthew> many thanks
[08:18] <Where> empiric: I'm not sure what's going on to be honest. Have you tried the site in FireFox?
[08:18] <stdin> you know the guys in #kde will tell you to come here once you say "I run Kubuntu" :P
[08:18] <lotusleaf> matthew: yw
[08:18] <lotusleaf> stdin: but it's kde specific and an easy question to answer ;)
[08:19] <lotusleaf> stdin: it's disabled in kubuntu-desktop
[08:19] <michal_> whot repository I need to install amd64-k8-smp??
[08:19] <michal_> from pl
[08:19] <distro-tester> hello all
[08:19] <stdin> heh, just don't mention the word "Kubuntu" in there :)
[08:19] <Where> Hi distro-tester
[08:19] <lotusleaf> stdin: :)
[08:19] <empiric> well it cant support firefix some technical isses we r working on that to switch completely to firefox
[08:19] <distro-tester> hi all
[08:19] <empiric> till then we have to use konqueroro
[08:20] <dettoaltrimenti> can you make an icon that will run a command in the terminal when you click it?
[08:20] <distro-tester> empiric u approve usa empirist spychology?
[08:20] <empiric> disrto no
[08:20] <michal_> linux-amd64-k8-smp howto install, links?
[08:20] <distro-tester> and what u mean by empiric if i many know your asl?
[08:20] <empiric> where am thinking its b/c
[08:20] <empiric> my klauncher wont create DCOP files
[08:21] <empiric> as it wont have kde
[08:21] <empiric> for some reason it crshes oftenly
[08:21] <lotusleaf> empiric: install kubuntu-desktop :)
[08:21] <stdin> dettoaltrimenti: yeah, just make the command be "konsole -e Command" or "konsole --noclose -e Command"
[08:21] <empiric> well i wont do
[08:21] <tuco> damn can't open Adept to check the copied and pasted files are there now! Adept doesn't want to load!
[08:22] <empiric> we have tested ubuntu n now user r familiar on it
[08:22] <KanRiNiN> Hi everyone.  I have a noob question.  I want to switch to KDE b/c I saw a blog that dispelled the myth that KDE is horrible with memory compared to gnome.  Is there a command to uninstall all my gnome crap or is it easier to install Kubuntu?
[08:22] <empiric> any idea
[08:22] <empiric> plz help me around
[08:22] <KanRiNiN> from a fresh install, that is
[08:23] <KanRiNiN> I've set up some stuff such as prelink but I hear the new Fiesty herd doesn't even need prelink
[08:23] <stdin> tuco: on Konsole (Kmenu -> System -> Konsole) type "sudo apt-get update" (you'll need to type in your password), then post the last few lines in the pastebin site
[08:23] <dettoaltrimenti> stdin but how do I make it an icon?
[08:24] <stdin> dettoaltrimenti: right-click -> Create New -> Link to Application
[08:24] <stdin> dettoaltrimenti: you put the command in the "Application" tab
[08:24] <Skuller> hey guys i just installed the NVIDIA drivers using the instructions at !NVIDIA but i see no splash screen after restarting my X
[08:25] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks stdin
[08:25] <stdin> dettoaltrimenti: no problem
[08:25] <tuco> Stdin: http://pastebin.ca/360785
[08:25] <Skuller> but i can say that the drivers are installed bcoz glxgears is smooth
[08:26] <SSJ_GZ> KanRiNiN:Check out http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[08:26] <linopil> ljl ubotu not working in #ubuntu-il any idea how do we turn it on >?
[08:27] <stdin> tuco: ok, that's a little but odd, but no problem. just type this in to the konsole "sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/apt/lists/lock" (press y if it asks you too) then run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" then "sudo apt-get update"
[08:27] <KanRiNiN> thanks SSJ_GZ
[08:28] <stdin> linopil: ask in #ubuntu-bots
[08:28] <KanRiNiN> I was searching for this site but couldn't find it
[08:28] <SSJ_GZ> KanRiNiN: np - good luck! =)
[08:29] <empiric> any idea
[08:30] <justin_> I can't get kde to display any higher a resolution than 640x480
[08:30] <justin_> Is that probably a driver problem?
[08:34] <linopil> how to turn ubotu on in small language rooms
[08:34] <linopil> how to turn ubotu on in small language rooms #ubutu-gr #ubuntu-il
[08:34] <linopil> op help needed
[08:34] <linopil> !op
[08:34] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[08:35] <poningru> oh blargh?
[08:35] <poningru> linopil: speak to who owns ubotu
[08:35] <nalioth> linopil: join #ubuntu-ops please
[08:35] <poningru> or do that
[08:35] <linopil> k nalioth
[08:36] <tuco> StDin:http://pastebin.ca/360807
[08:37] <jack_deltrino> what causes the weird accent marked 'a's to appear? example: error: expected ) before * token
[08:39] <tuco> anybody can help me with the repositories. I am getting an error message when pressing updates in Adept.
[08:39] <Riddell> linopil: ?
[08:39] <Riddell> tuco: put your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin
[08:40] <Riddell> along with the error message from adept
[08:40] <Alllex> Hi guys. I'm looking to compile Java programmes. I've installed "javacc" from Adept. Then I followed the instructions and did "javacc <filename>.java" and it comes up with an error:
[08:40] <Alllex> Reading from file /home/alex/Desktop/scripts/java/1.class . . .
[08:40] <Alllex> org.javacc.parser.ParseException: Encountered "class" at line 1, column 1.
[08:40] <Alllex> Was expecting one of:
[08:40] <Alllex>     "options" ...
[08:40] <Alllex>     "PARSER_BEGIN" ...
[08:41] <Alllex> Any explanations? I followed scripts off the internet from several different sources..
[08:42] <tuco> Riddel:http://pastebin.ca/360821
[08:43] <lucek> ok ok
[08:43] <surgy> if i run a game under cedega how do i figure out its process name?
[08:43] <tuco> message says: Could not fetch updates/ There was an error downloading updates
[08:44] <justin_> Question real fast, does anyone have the w32codecs they could send me?
[08:48] <tuco> Riddel?
[08:48] <tuco> or Stdin?
[08:49] <lucek> hello
[08:50] <dettoaltrimenti> does anyone know which program open office and kopete use to spellcheck? I have aspell and myspell both installed on my computer and want to get rid of one
[08:51] <jhutchins> tuco: Inability to get a lock on the databases means one of two things: you're not using sudo, or some other application has the database open with write/update privilage.
[08:51] <foo> Where do I turn off klipper, kbluetoothd, adept, and kmix to not come up on start up? I took them out of the taskbar and now them come up as windows
[08:51] <jhutchins> tuco: Probably you're truing to run commands from the console while you have the GUI open.
[08:52] <tuco> Gui?
[08:52] <jhutchins> tuco: wimp.
[08:52] <tuco> Huh?!!!
[08:52] <jhutchins> Window, Icons, Mice, Ponters.
[08:52] <tuco> Ah#
[08:52] <jhutchins> Graphical User Interface
[08:52] <tuco> huh no
[08:53] <justin_> How do I find out which ubuntu version I'm using?
[08:53] <justin_> I think it's Edgy but I can't remember...
[08:53] <justin_> Is there any easy way?
[08:53] <archangel_> shalom ya'll
[08:53] <tuco> I think my lists are wrong mate
[08:53] <jhutchins> tuco: Yes, but 'inability to get lock on...' is what I was addressing.
[08:53] <tuco> no GUi is open Hutch
[08:54] <tuco> what do you want me to do?
[08:54] <Seracht> hey
[08:55] <KiPSeRoN> !bery;l
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bery;l - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <KiPSeRoN> !beryl
[08:55] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:55] <KiPSeRoN> s
[08:55] <archangel_> Hey I have never had an installation where my cable modem was not working right out of the box, I was online before I was done installing.
[08:55] <jhutchins> tuco: Ok, you can delete 33 and 34, they're duplicates of 32 & 33.
[08:56] <tuco> in adept yes?
[08:56] <Seracht> hi quick question. I currently have windows installed on my primary harddrive and ubuntu on my secondary harddrive, but I want to install kubuntu. so if I delete the partitions on my secondary harddrive will that somehow screw up GRUB (on my primary harddrive) or will GRUB automatically unninstall itself when I delete the ubuntu partition?
[08:56] <jack_deltrino> what causes the weird accent marked 'a's to appear? example: error: expected ) before * token
[08:56] <jack_deltrino> i see them in the man pages and randomly throughout the system
[08:56] <archangel_> but this latest install on a fresh system, everything works, but cant connect. What do I do?
[08:56] <jhutchins> tuco: Whatever way you prefer.  I just use the equivalent of visudo.
[08:56] <Seracht> anyone??
[08:57] <tuco> Ok removed from adept
[08:57] <tuco> what else :-)?
[08:57] <christian23nv> i need info in spanish
[08:57] <jhutchins> Seracht: How about just installing kubuntu-desktop on your ubuntu?
[08:57] <jhutchins> tuco: Reading the error message more carefully:  It's bad luck, that's all.
[08:58] <Seracht> jhutchins I did that but it is getting screwed up
[08:58] <christian23nv> i need to know how install this repos in kubuntu
[08:58] <angasule> !googleearth
[08:58] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html
[08:58] <jhutchins> tuco: You need to make sure you're not editing the sources file and don't have the GUI Adept open.
[08:58] <Seracht> ie, when I try to change resolution, it doesn't change it
[08:58] <tuco> So do I need to sacrifice something on the altar of truth?
[08:58] <jhutchins> tuco: Other than that, you're just getting the message that the servers are too busy.
[08:58] <christian23nv> necesito ayuda con repos beryl en kubuntu
[08:58] <jhutchins> !easysources | tuco
[08:58] <ubotu> tuco: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:58] <gan|y|med> hello
[08:58] <angasule> !es
[08:58] <jhutchins> That might help.
[08:58] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:59] <archangel_> I thought I heard Google was going to release their own distro
[08:59] <Seracht> just a bad rumor
[08:59] <angasule> archangel_: I heard the opposite, they have their own distro, but not for release
[08:59] <jhutchins> Seracht: What video card do you have?
[08:59] <Seracht> 6600 gt
[09:00] <archangel_> ahhh
[09:00] <archangel_> ok
[09:00] <jhutchins> Seracht: Do you have binary drivers installed for it?
[09:00] <jack_deltrino> archangel_: i've been to google's hq and internally they use a modified version of ubuntu which internally they call goobuntu, but somehow the press thought spreading misinformation about google creating a new distribution is a Good Thing (tm)
[09:00] <tuco> ok I have generated the sources list. What do I do next fellas?
[09:00] <Seracht> i have no idea man...I think I just screwed it up
[09:00] <Seracht> I udnno what I am doing lol
[09:00] <archangel_> bummer, seems like it might be cool, with all that $$ backing them
[09:00] <gan|y|med> i am running edgy. after some time being in idle mode my cpu usage goes up to 100% for no reason. top doesn't show any process related to this usage. strangly, opening a console and starting top "calms" the cpu down again...
[09:00] <jhutchins> tuco: Does it use different servers than the one you had?
[09:00] <gan|y|med> any ideas why this is this way (didn't happen in dapper)???
[09:00] <jhutchins> tuco: Rename the one you had, paste that in it's place, try again.
[09:01] <jack_deltrino> anyway, anyone know where the weird accent marks are coming from?
[09:01] <jhutchins> tuco: (Instructions should be on the source-o-matic page.
[09:01] <jack_deltrino> example: error: expected ) before * token
[09:01] <linopil> kubuntu opening page for firefox is stil mistakenly file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[09:01] <jhutchins> jack_deltrino: What codepage are you using?
[09:01] <eXistenZ> What might cause the sound not to work in Amarok when it works the moment I log in to kubuntu?
[09:01] <jhutchins> linopil: You can change that.  Is that not a valid page on your system?
[09:01] <tuco> seriously guys I am a bit lost on this one
[09:02] <linopil> kubuntu opening page for firefox is stil mistakenly file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html . should be file:///usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/index.html
[09:02] <jack_deltrino> how do i determine that? i thought that was compiled into the kernel (or for the uber modular freaks, is in module form)?
[09:02] <archangel_> did you see the pics of Google when they first started? Man talk about a garage setup.
[09:02] <linopil> jhutchins:  tyvm
[09:02] <linopil> Iwant it changed in distroi
[09:02] <Seracht> so jhutchins will grub get screwed up if I format my ubuntu drive
[09:02] <tuco> ubuntu supported packages and ubuntu community supported packages!
[09:02] <linopil> bad default yo know ?
[09:03] <gan|y|med> so any ideas why edgy keeps bringing the cpu up to 100% for no apparent reason whatsoever???
[09:03] <upd^> top
[09:03] <upd^> ?
[09:03] <linopil> jhutchins:  I would like to see it changed in package distro
[09:03] <tuco> Do I have to change each of the line in Adept...I mean replacing the one generated in source o matic and paste into adept?
[09:03] <linopil> it confuses newbies
[09:04] <carlos> hello all
[09:05] <jhutchins> gan|y|med: Can you tell what process is using the CPU with top or ps ax?
[09:06] <jhutchins> tuco: It should say on the page (I haven't had a chance to read it yet), but better to rename your existing sources file and replace it with the stuff from source-o-matic.
[09:06] <dettoaltrimenti> does X11 use metacity?
[09:06] <inam> hi all... im using kubuntu 6.06 and grub 0.97. i tried to download the source and compile it, and it wouldn't compile. apparently graphics.c is missing in my source files. can someone point me in the right direction please
[09:07] <dettoaltrimenti> inam: why not just download it with adept?
[09:07] <tafajunior> dites, j'arriv pas  entrer dans mon root k'en pensez vous
[09:08] <jhutchins> tuco: This may be of help:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[09:08] <dettoaltrimenti> !fr | tafajunior
[09:08] <ubotu> tafajunior: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:08] <jhutchins> tuco: It's possible to do all this stuff with the GUI, but some of us old timers are impatient, and the command line is so much more powerful.
[09:08] <tafajunior> merci detto
[09:09] <tuco> Hutch I am all over the place now...the sources list has been changed twice before, I am not sure what is what
[09:09] <inam> dettoaltrimenti: can you please explain? you mean by using "apt-get source grub" i'm missing out something
[09:09] <jhutchins> !build-essentials | inam
[09:09] <ubotu> inam: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:09] <tuco> I just wanted to have adept running, install ati and audigy drivers and go and have a soup!
[09:10] <dettoaltrimenti> inam- open the k menu, system-> adept manager
[09:10] <dettoaltrimenti> type in grub, click on install, click on apply changes
[09:10] <jhutchins> tuco: You and 93million other people, and the servers are thrashing their hard drives as fast as they can.
[09:10] <tuco> I guess I better stop for now then. I am going nowhere.
[09:11] <dettoaltrimenti> tuco- what's going on?
[09:11] <jhutchins> tuco: One of the things you can do is to choose a country where people will be sleeping when you're awake as your source, and try those mirrors.
[09:11] <tuco> Ah dude...can't get adept to update at all.
[09:11] <dettoaltrimenti> tuco- do you get some kind of error message?
[09:11] <jhutchins> Yeah, but look at the error messages - "timed out".  Servers aren't responding.
[09:12] <tuco> It only says can't fetch updates
[09:12] <jhutchins> tuco: Only things you can do are either change servers, or wait until they're not as busy.
[09:12] <dettoaltrimenti> were you messing with your repositories? maybe the addresses are wrong
[09:12] <tuco> But I am not sure about my sources anymore Hutch
[09:12] <tuco> I guess so Menti
[09:12] <inam> dettoaltrimenti, but grub is already installed... im trying to compile it again and then may be make some changes to the menu screen. problem is, i cant get to compile the unmodified source code, because graphics.c is missing. any help will be greatly appreciated.
[09:12] <tuco> Not messing...doing what I have been asked to do :-)
[09:12] <jhutchins> tuco: When I'm working on mandriva, I use mirrors in France and Swizerland, because the US mirrors (where I am) are always busy when I need something.
[09:13] <dettoaltrimenti> tuco- if it is because the servers are busy, another country's servers should do fine. Try changing us to ru in the addresses in your repositories
[09:13] <jhutchins> tuco: I know it's frustrating.  I've been dealing with this stuff since the only solution was to mail order CD's.
[09:13] <jhutchins> ...and wait.
[09:14] <tuco> how can I do that Menti. I am patient Hutch don't worry :-)
[09:14] <jhutchins> tuco: So chin up, rename your sources file, paste the new one in, and try to update.
[09:14] <dettoaltrimenti> or ill change to us and see if that's what's going on. one second
[09:14] <jhutchins> tuco: You need commands?
[09:14] <tuco> yes my lord
[09:14] <jhutchins> Heh.  Watch it.  Console open, Adept closed, right?
[09:14] <dettoaltrimenti> I have no problem updating with the US servers. That's where you are right tuco?
[09:14] <tuco> Nope Menti in Uk
[09:16] <tuco> All I need is make sure my list are correct wherever the location, and that the repositories in adept are also correct, then we can take it from there :-)
[09:16] <surgy> to view my resolution i look in /etc/xorg.conf right?
[09:16] <jhutchins> tuco: Ok: mv /etc/apt/sources.list .
[09:16] <pasha> russian laguage isnt reconizable in kopete
[09:16] <jhutchins> tuco: Highlight the sources from source-o-matic and copy them.
[09:17] <pasha> any ideas guys?
[09:17] <jhutchins> pasha: Is it working on the rest of the system?
[09:17] <surgy> can someone tell me where my desktop resolution settings are? xorg.conf? am i spelling the file right? and is it in /etc ?
[09:17] <jhutchins> tuco: ?
[09:18] <jhutchins> surgy: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:18] <dettoaltrimenti> pasha- hang on, I had that problem too
[09:18] <jhutchins> surgy: It might not be that simple though.
[09:18] <surgy> jhutchins: ahh thank you
[09:18] <jhutchins> !fixreg | surgy
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixreg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <surgy> jhutchins: nah i just need to see what its set at im not changing it
[09:18] <jhutchins> Hm.
[09:18] <jhutchins> !xconfig | surgy
[09:18] <ubotu> surgy: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[09:18] <tuco> Yes Hutch
[09:19] <jhutchins> surgy: There's an applet called krandr<something>, that might help.
[09:19] <jhutchins> surgy: xvidtune will also tell you.
[09:19] <surgy> i dont want to reconfigure anything
[09:19] <surgy> i just want to see what its set at
[09:19] <jhutchins> What step are you at?
[09:20] <jhutchins> tuco: What step are you at?
[09:20] <jhutchins> surgy: k.
[09:20] <jhutchins> !xconfig
[09:20] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[09:20] <jhutchins> !FixRes
[09:20] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:20] <jhutchins> Silly case-sensitive bot.
[09:21] <tuco> Hold on Hutch
[09:21] <dettoaltrimenti> ok pasha- sudo kate ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc
[09:22] <dettoaltrimenti> under the [ICQ]  part, change DefaultEncoding to 2251
[09:22] <tuco> Hutch:http://pastebin.ca/360917
[09:22] <dettoaltrimenti> pasha- or kedit, gedit, whichever text editor you use
[09:22] <jhutchins> Man, I love this house.  It's 100 years old, old for this area, and it handles light so beautifully.  I have the thermostat turned down, but because it's a sunny day it's nice and warm (barely 30F outside).
[09:23] <ctw> Hi! Has anybody here recently upgraded from Edgy to Feisty Herd 4?
[09:23] <pasha> and...
[09:23] <jhutchins> tuco: Ok, that's the old one, right?
[09:23] <Skuller> !mic
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <tuco> That's that what is showing now Hutchy
[09:24] <jhutchins> tuco: Ok, you're going to move that to your home directory as backup: mv /etc/apt/sources.list .
[09:24] <pasha> what if just windows cyrillic encoding
[09:24] <jhutchins> tuco: (the period means "here').
[09:24] <Skuller> anyone can help me get my mic working?...or to even see if it is working or not?
[09:25] <tuco> Huh. Me lost
[09:25] <tuco> move what kind sir?
[09:25] <ctw> I'd like to upgrade to Feisty Herd 4, but wanted to hear other people's experiences first
[09:25] <_stephan_> i have a Problem with koversation. I want to start Konversation at the start of kde, let it connect with a special channel and stay only as icon in the taskbar. I can start Konversation at the start of kde and it connects to a channel, but the konversation-window stays open. Is there a way to automatic close the Konversation-Window, so you see only the taskbar-icon?
[09:25] <jhutchins> tuco: Then you're going to copy the text from source-o-matic, and your're goint to do echo ", then paste it, the close the qote with " > /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:26] <tuco> Man you lost me here
[09:26] <dettoaltrimenti> hey tuco
[09:26] <tuco> Mama mia
[09:26] <jhutchins> tuco: Ok, is this easier?  vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:26] <jhutchins> tuco: It'll give you a message about vi and open a new file.
[09:26] <tuco> in kate?
[09:26] <tuco> or command?
[09:26] <jhutchins> tuco: Would you rather use kate? Ok, open the new file in kate.
[09:27] <jhutchins> tuco: vi is another editor.
[09:27] <dettoaltrimenti> tuco, I can just email you my sources.list and you can use that
[09:27] <jhutchins> dettoaltrimenti: He has a source list from source-o-matic.  His problem seems to be busy servers.
[09:27] <tuco> We can try that Menti isn't it Hutch?
[09:27] <eXistenZ> I have surround and I'm not sure why it doesn't work in Amarok
[09:28] <jhutchins> tuco: No idea about menti, if he's another guy in the channel his server isn't talkign to mine.
[09:28] <tuco> Ok
[09:28] <dettoaltrimenti> sorry hutch, im sure you know what you're doing
[09:28] <tuco> Yes he made me win a couple of millions at the lottery ;-)
[09:28] <tuco> Ok sorry Hutch
[09:28] <jhutchins> dettoaltrimenti: Hopefully he'll be a bit more confident with the console when we're done.
[09:29] <tuco> So I have the sources list. Then?
[09:29] <jhutchins> Ok, you've created a new one, right?
[09:29] <tuco> nah
[09:29] <jhutchins> now try to update again.
[09:29] <tuco> How can i create a new one?
[09:29] <tuco> Don't hate me Hutch...
[09:30] <jhutchins> tuco: Ok, what we're doing is moving the old sources list to your home dir so you have a backup, then we're copying and pasting the list from source-o-matic to a new list, then we update.
[09:30] <tuco> Ok#
[09:30] <jhutchins> tuco: In console, sudo vi /etc/apt/sources-list
[09:30] <pasha> is there a possibility to listen to shoutcast radio sts in xmms, saying nothing of ripping 'em...just to listen, is there?
[09:30] <jhutchins> tuco: hit i for insert, paste the stuff from source-o-matic.
[09:30] <jhutchins> tuco: tell me when you've done that.
[09:31] <jhutchins> pasha: Yeah.
[09:31] <jhutchins> pasha: I use streamtuner for that.
[09:31] <tuco> So I save the old list...copy it and then move it to desktop>
[09:31] <jhutchins> pasha: or I listen to 'em in amarok if I have the url.
[09:31] <eXistenZ> kde is just great
[09:31] <pasha> how
[09:31] <jhutchins> tuco: No need to move it to the desktop.
[09:32] <tuco> saved it in home :-)
[09:32] <pasha> conveniently as in winamp library e.g.
[09:32] <tuco> ok now I generate a new one right?
[09:32] <jhutchins> pasha: amarok lets you add "radio streams" in the playlists tabl.
[09:32] <jhutchins> tuco: Yes.
[09:32] <tuco> link please?
[09:33] <jhutchins> !easysources
[09:33] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:33] <jhutchins> Just use the defaults, select whatever country you think you should.
[09:33] <tuco> default is Switzerland. I am in UK
[09:33] <tuco> Should I choose Angola?
[09:33] <jhutchins> tuco: well, start with uk.  you might be doing this more than once.
[09:34] <jhutchins> tuco: After that, I'd try France, then Swizerland.
[09:34] <tuco> ok created gb one
[09:34] <jhutchins> tuco: Highlight text, copy.
[09:34] <tuco> what shall I do with it?
[09:35] <tuco> ok
[09:35] <tuco> done
[09:35] <gan|y|med> i am running edgy. after some time being in idle mode my cpu usage goes up to 100% for no reason. top doesn't show any process related to this usage. strangly, opening a console and starting top "calms" the cpu down again...
[09:35] <pasha> hello, how are you? =)
[09:35] <pasha> lol)))))))))))
[09:35] <gan|y|med> any ideas why this is this way (didn't happen in dapper)???
[09:35] <pasha> yes we know all
[09:35] <gan|y|med> there is NO process using the cpu up to 100%
[09:35] <pasha> only 80%
[09:35] <jhutchins> tuco: Now in console: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:35] <tuco> ok
[09:36] <jhutchins> tuco: hit i for insert, then paste.
[09:36] <pasha> exactly
[09:36] <coreymon77> guys
[09:36] <pasha> what?
[09:36] <coreymon77> is there a windows media firefox plugins for kubuntu?
[09:36] <pasha> there is none
[09:36] <tuco> done
[09:37] <gan|y|med> coreymon77: you can use the mplayer plugin for wmv streams
[09:37] <coreymon77> how do i get it
[09:37] <coreymon77> apt?
[09:37] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Once you get windows media working (see !mp3), get a plugin for your player working.
[09:37] <gan|y|med> yes
[09:37] <coreymon77> whats the package called?
[09:37] <gan|y|med> don't install the totem player plugin
[09:37] <jhutchins> tuco: Ok, now hit esc, then :, then wq <enter>
[09:37] <coreymon77> gan|y|med: whats the plugins package called?
[09:38] <tuco> in konsole right?
[09:38] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Actually, I think the mplayer plugin is installed by default.
[09:38] <jhutchins> tuco: Um... You shoudl still be in vi, where you pasted the text from source-o-matic...
[09:38] <coreymon77> well
[09:38] <coreymon77> if it is
[09:38] <coreymon77> firefox isnt detecting it
[09:38] <pasha> well done
[09:38] <jhutchins> tuco: That source should write then quit.
[09:38] <gan|y|med> just search for mplayer in synaptic/adept or do apt-cache search package
[09:39] <jhutchins> tuco: that sequence, esc :wq<enter>
[09:39] <pasha> good
[09:39] <tuco> I just pressed quit
[09:39] <tuco> is that ok?
[09:39] <jhutchins> tuco: pressed quit....
[09:39] <tuco> Yes that's me
[09:39] <jhutchins> tuco: Did you do sudo vi... in konsole?
[09:39] <tuco> nah
[09:39] <xenol> when i type mkisofs /etc where is created *.iso stored plz?
[09:39] <jhutchins> ah.
[09:39] <tuco> aie aie aie
[09:40] <jhutchins> tuco: ok, in konsole, sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:40] <tuco> ok
[09:40] <kmimouni> hi
[09:40] <jhutchins> tuco: Either it worked, and it's there, or you hit i and paste again.
[09:40] <kmimouni> how are u everybody
[09:40] <gan|y|med> does anybody know what might trigger the 100% cpu usage?
[09:40] <jhutchins> gan|y|med: try leaving top running.  probably a screensaver.
[09:41] <xenol> plz where can i find iso files?
[09:41] <tuco> guess it's there
[09:41] <jhutchins> gan|y|med: How do you know it's using 100% cpu?
[09:41] <jhutchins> tuco: Ok, you should now be stuck in vi.
[09:41] <gan|y|med> jhutchins: what screensaver?
[09:41] <xenol> plz
[09:41] <jhutchins> gan|y|med: Perhaps one that's not working?  I dunno, that's what tends to kick in at idle.
[09:41] <pasha> how do i open kate text editor? is there any chance to do this?
[09:42] <tuco> yes looks like I can't type anything anymore in konsole
[09:42] <jhutchins> xenol: iso's for kubuntu?
[09:42] <jhutchins> !mirrors | xenol
[09:42] <ubotu> xenol: Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[09:42] <jhutchins> tuco: Good.  esc :q<enter>
[09:42] <gan|y|med> jhutchins: well, besides the system being awfully slow and almost not reacting anymore? i have a superkaramba theme that shows me when it is at 100% (and the notebook fan has the same opinion)
[09:42] <xenol> jhutchins:  no i typed in terminal mkisofs /etc and it made iso but i dont know where it is stored :(
[09:42] <pasha> i see the icon in the menu it says kate and...i click it and it doesnt start kate
[09:43] <jhutchins> gan|y|med: Ok, so this is while you're working.
[09:43] <tuco> I press exc, then type q and press enter right?
[09:43] <coreymon77> okay
[09:43] <jhutchins> gan|y|med: leave a top window open where you can see it and see if it happens.
[09:43] <coreymon77> i found the mplayer plugins on apt
[09:43] <eisma> i did dual boot with windows/ubuntu, and partitioned too little of space i wanted for windows. how do i uninstall ubuntu?
[09:43] <jhutchins> tuco: :q
[09:43] <coreymon77> i installed it
[09:43] <pasha> so anybody knows what to do with it?
[09:43] <jhutchins> tuco: the colon indicates a command.
[09:43] <tuco> what do you mean?
[09:43] <coreymon77> but i and downlaoding something, so ill wait for that to finish before restarting firefox
[09:43] <tuco> I press esc
[09:43] <pasha> I press enter instead
[09:44] <tuco> and press q?
[09:44] <coreymon77> eisma: why not uninstall windows?
[09:44] <pasha> and it works, I tell you
[09:44] <dettoaltrimenti> pasha- try 'sudo kedit' in the terminal
[09:44] <jhutchins> tuco: esc gets you out of whatever mode you're in.  Next press : to enter command mode, then q is the command.
[09:44] <xenol> eisma:  boot the install cd and format ubuntu partitions  using QTparted
[09:44] <coreymon77> eisma: wait
[09:44] <coreymon77> eisma: you can resize partitions
[09:44] <pasha> we resize all
[09:44] <pasha> whatever you wish
[09:44] <coreymon77> eisma: get QTpated off of apt
[09:44] <xenol> jhutchins:  do u know where can i find iso file of /etc when i typed mkisofs /etc in terminal but didnt say where it is stored plz?
[09:45] <eisma> coreymon77 that's what i'm trying to do right now, and right now i deleted the partition with ubuntu on it
[09:45] <coreymon77> eisma: and then resize you ubuntu and windows partitions to the size you want for each of them
[09:45] <coreymon77> why?
[09:45] <tuco> this one is tricky
[09:45] <eisma> coreymon77 cause i didn't want ubuntu
[09:45] <jhutchins> xenol: Um, I'm not that good.  use ls or mc to look around?  use find?  updatedb && locate iso?
[09:45] <coreymon77> have you tried kubuntu yet?
[09:45] <eisma> xenol how do i use qtparted once i've booted the live cd?
[09:45] <pasha> coreymon77, first you have to format your harddrive then instal dos on it and all shall work i promise you
[09:45] <jhutchins> tuco: Yes.  Did you successfully quit vi?
[09:46] <adam_> hey has anyone had boot/shutdown issues with hp dv1000?  i cant count how many times boot/shutdown has crashed on me
[09:46] <eisma> coreymon77 i just want to get back to windows first
[09:46] <xenol> eisma:  go to kmenu system qtparted and format ubuntu partitoins
[09:46] <jhutchins> tuco: vi is like a sonic screwdriver.
[09:46] <xenol> partitions
[09:46] <pasha> )))))))))))
[09:46] <eisma> xenol what if i'm onubuntu?
[09:46] <tuco> when I press esc...the icon in shell at the bottom either show a bell or a computer screen!
[09:46] <coreymon77> pasha: why are you telling me this, im the last person to want to uninstall kubuntu
[09:46] <pasha> partitions wont matter, the key is DOS OS
[09:46] <xenol> jhutchins:  the prob is i dont even know how that iso file is called :S
[09:46] <xenol> eisma: use live cd
[09:46] <gan|y|med> please may someone tell me why screensavers are not listed in the kubuntu style kcontrol menu. gosh, how i hate it...
[09:47] <eisma> xenol ubuntu live cd, correct? then where?
[09:47] <jhutchins> xenol: Find gives you options to find by create time.
[09:47] <xenol> eisma:  u have ubuntu live cd?
[09:47] <eisma> xenol: yes
[09:47] <eisma> xenol gnome partition editor?
[09:47] <incorrect> my touchpad is soo very slow
[09:47] <xenol> jhutchins:  what do i need to type to find by create time?
[09:47] <xenol> eisma: y
[09:48] <tuco> I am lost in that one Hutch
[09:48] <Wulfe> anybody know how to stop the adept updater from thinking its already being used ?
[09:48] <pasha> coreymon77: once you install DOS you ll see the advantage of this OS over all others, you wont have to do anything, all is made for you
[09:48] <eisma> xenol cause that's what i have
[09:48] <pasha> already
[09:48] <linopil> who can solve me showing hebrew non-unicode in kopete. now non-unicode in kopete is western?
[09:48] <poningru> !wmv
[09:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:48] <jhutchins> xenol: man find
[09:48] <coreymon77> pasha: you are telling this to the wrong person
[09:48] <jhutchins> xenol: It's tricky, just keep trying it.
[09:48] <eisma> does anyone know if fat16 filesys is related to windows at all?
[09:48] <tuco> Can I just simply get a new source list and then copy and paste it in kate?
[09:48] <linopil> maybe I cen manually edit kopete non-unicode codepage ?
[09:48] <coreymon77> pasha: im anti windows
[09:49] <jhutchins> tuco: Yes.  What's the problem?  Still can't get out of vi?
[09:49] <tuco> I am not sure If I am out or not
[09:49] <pasha> FAT16 is related to DOS
[09:49] <eisma> so don't delete fat16?
[09:49] <jhutchins> tuco: What's on your screen?
[09:49] <jhutchins> tuco: does ls work?
[09:49] <tuco> konsole
[09:49] <linopil> coreymon77: Iam pro dual- boot
[09:49] <xenol> jhutchins:  but i dont know how that iso file is called
[09:49] <coreymon77> why are you people telling me this
[09:49] <pasha> and also there is a secret partition in Linux that uses FAT16
[09:49] <dettoaltrimenti> linopil- right click on the name of the person you want to talk to, click on 'select encoding' and choose Unicode
[09:49] <jhutchins> Ok, if you're out of vi, you're all set, do an update.
[09:49] <coreymon77> i dont care
[09:50] <pasha> LOL))))))))))))))))))))
[09:50] <jhutchins> tuco: you can use ls /etc/apt to see that the file's there.
[09:50] <eisma> anyone knw how i can turn the unallocated space into the partition i want to use for ubuntu?
[09:50] <pasha> corey, get yourslef a LINDOWS
[09:50] <tuco> how can you be sure to be out of Vi mate?
[09:50] <Raven301> I have set up an kids account on my laptop. I'm using Swiftfox. In my account I have flashplayer working but in the kids account it will not work. How do I get it to work int the kids account. Also how do I get sudo my password to work in the kids section?
[09:50] <eisma> using the GParted
[09:50] <jhutchins> tuco: you can use ls -l to see that it has size.
[09:50] <linopil> wow dettoaltrimenti tyvm
[09:50] <jhutchins> tuco: you can run update.
[09:50] <coreymon77> pasha: no
[09:50] <coreymon77> im staying with kubuntu
[09:50] <jhutchins> tuco: You're no longer in the file editor.
[09:50] <jhutchins> tuco: The text of the file should go away.
[09:50] <pasha> seriously man, linspire and ubuntu soon will make one
[09:50] <adam_> hey has anyone had boot/shutdown issues with hp dv1000?  i cant count how many times boot/shutdown has crashed on me
[09:50] <pasha> just for you
[09:51] <dettoaltrimenti> np linopil
[09:51] <tuco> dear oh dear
[09:51] <tuco> sudo get-update?
[09:51] <jhutchins> sudo apt-get update
[09:51] <xenol> jhutchins:  do u know how can that iso be called?
[09:51] <coreymon77> pasha: shut up will you?
[09:51] <pasha> sudo get- install DOS OS 9.0
[09:51] <dettoaltrimenti> xenol- search in / for *.iso
[09:51] <poningru> woah woah
[09:52] <jhutchins> tuco: In a couple of months this'll be like falling off a log.
[09:52] <pasha> lol
[09:52] <tuco> stuck at 30%
[09:52] <poningru> pasha: whats wrong?
[09:52] <caris_mere> in fstab, what is a fat32 file system called?
[09:52] <coreymon77> pasha: if you are pro windows/dos, you are in the wrong channel
[09:52] <jhutchins> xenol: If you gave me the exact command line you used, I might be able to guess it.
[09:52] <gan|y|med> Raven301: I think this is a permission problem. for sudo, you have to be added to the sudoers list. i think one way of doing this is to add the kids account to the staff group
[09:52] <julio_> surgy
[09:52] <poningru> pasha: please dont annoy other people
[09:52] <jhutchins> xenol: On the other hand, if you didn't give it an output filename, it probably didn't do anything.
[09:52] <linopil> wow dettoaltrimenti now option select encoding dissaperared
[09:52] <jhutchins> tuco: Patience.
[09:52] <linopil> and I did not listen
[09:52] <xenol> jhutchins:  mkisofs /etc  ---- typed just this
[09:53] <tuco> stuck at 30% Hutchy...still
[09:53] <Raven301> gan|y|med: ok ... I'll try that
[09:53] <julio_> are you there?
[09:53] <jhutchins> tuco: 3 - 5 minutes, depending on your connection and the servers.
[09:53] <linopil> chose herew visual dettoaltrimenti
[09:53] <pasha> you go on microsoft.com and download anything you wish.
[09:53] <xenol> jhutchins:  so if i didnt type outpot that file doesnt exist?
[09:53] <gan|y|med> speechless=
[09:53] <pasha> there are all updates available
[09:53] <linopil> anyway to take it back dettoaltrimenti ?
[09:53] <jhutchins> xenol: Get a lot of garbage on the screen?
[09:53] <poningru> !ops
[09:53] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, or DBO
[09:53] <eisma> if i want to keep windows, should i delete the fat16 filesystem?
[09:53] <linopil> pasha haha only activate first
[09:53] <poningru> pasha == troll
[09:53] <dettoaltrimenti> linopil right click, go to the very bottom where the person's name is, then select encoding should be there- it shouldn't disappear
[09:53] <xenol> jhutchins:  yup
[09:53] <tuco> connection timed out
[09:54] <nalioth> pasha: please be civil
[09:54] <jhutchins> xenol: That was the iso.
[09:54] <pasha> or otherwise you may try sudo apt-get install windows 95
[09:54] <pasha> it is a good os for beginners
[09:54] <linopil> and pasha your words are considered <<<< trolling >.>>> by some ppl
[09:54] <xenol> jhutchins:  hmm and where can i find it?
[09:54] <jhutchins> xenol: It fed it to stdout, which in this case was teh screen.
[09:54] <nalioth> pasha: you should join ##windows
[09:54] <gan|y|med> Raven301: similar thing might apply to the flash issue. but i am not sure
[09:54] <linopil> k ty dettoaltrimenti
[09:54] <xenol> jhutchins:  stdout?
[09:54] <xenol> jhutchins:  just tell me plz that file was created or no?
[09:55] <jhutchins> xenol: I'd check man mkisofs if I were you, but I would suspect you need mkisofs /tmp > backup.iso
[09:55] <linopil> pasha troll pure and simple
[09:55] <tuco> I give up Hutch. Not sure what is wrong.
[09:55] <jhutchins> xenol: No permanent file was created.  The output that would have been the iso just went to the screen.
[09:55] <jhutchins> tuco: It's saturday, and everybody's trying to get updates.
[09:55] <Raven301> gan|y|med: ok ... I'll let you know
[09:55] <xenol> jhutchins:  well that now file exists on disk or no? i dont know :(
[09:55] <pasha> linopil: if you lack sense of humor, it doesn't mean that others are like you
[09:56] <jhutchins> tuco: You can go through source-o-matic again, and try the French or Swiss servers.  The ones in the Netherlands are good too.
[09:56] <tuco> well I am sure some people can update right?
[09:56] <linopil> whatever
[09:56] <nalioth> pasha: #kubuntu-offtopic awaits
[09:56] <jhutchins> tuco: You can try the ones in the far east, where they're asleep.
[09:56] <jhutchins> tuco: Only if they're lucky and hit the servers between other people.
[09:56] <tuco> anyone in the UK having problems updating here?
[09:57] <xenol> jhutchins:  any idea where that pernament iso was created?
[09:57] <jhutchins> xenol: No permanent file was created.
[09:57] <pasha> i do, but i solved it easily
[09:57] <jhutchins> xenol: Instead of the output going to a file, it went to the screen.
[09:57] <xenol> jhutchins:  ah so file doesnt exist right?
[09:57] <pasha> here...you type in console sudo apt-get dos
[09:57] <jhutchins> xenol: Just like the output of "ls" goes to the screen.
[09:58] <tuco> Ok Cheers Hutch I am off. Thanks for your help mate
[09:58] <jhutchins> xenol: If you do ls > listing.txt, it goes to a file.
[09:58] <eguzkia> hello how can i do to resolve a GPG key problem?
[09:58] <eguzkia> i have this error when i use synaptic
[09:58] <jhutchins> tuco: Good luck!  THis is a real pain.  I'm working on a utility to test the mirrors and see which ones are the best for you at a given moment.
[09:58] <xenol> jhutchins:  so if it only was on screen then file wasnt created and doesnt exist on disk? tell me yes or no plz
[09:59] <jhutchins> xenol: No file exists.
[09:59] <xenol> jhutchins:  thx for time
[09:59] <jhutchins> xenol: Good luck.  Have a look at that man page!
[10:00] <tuco> Thank you.
[10:00] <eguzkia> how can i do to resolve a gpg key error when i download packages?
[10:00] <nalioth> eguzkia: where are you downloading from?
[10:00] <tuco> I just want to make sure my adept has the right repositories for the time being!
[10:00] <radioaktivstorm> hello, i have a question... every once in a while, the gui gets kinda glitchy: the scrollbars look kinda broken and stuff. is there a way to fix this?
[10:01] <dettoaltrimenti> eguzkia- what's the error?
[10:02] <xenol> jhutchins:  one more question best way how to backup is with dd or tar?
[10:03] <eguzkia> dettoaltrimenti: it?
[10:03] <jhutchins> xenol: dd is pretty special, I would say tar.
[10:03] <jhutchins> xenol: There are some very nice backup utilities available for kubuntu.
[10:03] <dettoaltrimenti> xenol- you could use the program Keep for backing up files, it's pretty spiffy
[10:03] <eguzkia> dettoaltrimenti: i receive a warning after downloading package from synaptic like "gpg key....."
[10:03] <xenol> jhutchins:  sbackup?
[10:04] <nalioth> eguzkia: which repos are you using?
[10:04] <eguzkia> nalioth: i receive a warning after downloading package from synaptic like "gpg key....."
[10:04] <dettoaltrimenti> eguzkia try it again and tell me and copy and paste the error
[10:04] <eguzkia> ok
[10:04] <nalioth> eguzkia: yes, you've said that 3 times now.  please pastebin your errors as dettoaltrimenti asks
[10:04] <nalioth> !paste | eguzkia
[10:04] <ubotu> eguzkia: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:05] <eguzkia> naliioth:just one moment i'm downloading a package and i have a dial-up connection!
[10:05] <eguzkia> nalioth:just one moment i'm downloading a package and i have a dial-up connection!
[10:06] <dettoaltrimenti> nalioth let me ask you a quetsion- do you know, or know how I can find out which spellcheck programs kopete and openoffice use?
[10:06] <coreymon77> eguzkia: you only have to say things once
[10:07] <nalioth> dettoaltrimenti: i don't use those programs, i'm sorry.  :(
[10:07] <LjL> dettoaltrimenti: they use the KDE spell checker. which on its turn can use several backends, IIRC - you can choose which in kcontrol
[10:07] <coreymon77> dettoaltrimenti: do you want to add extra dictionaries?
[10:08] <dettoaltrimenti> coreymon77 no I just have 4 spellcheck programs installed, I'd like to know which one I'm using
[10:08] <KanRiNiN> coreymon77: yes, i do.
[10:08] <coreymon77> KanRiNiN: which ones?
[10:08] <LjL> dettoaltrimenti: kcontrol / KDE Components / Spell Checker
[10:08] <LjL> i think the default is ASpell
[10:08] <KanRiNiN> coreymon77: spanish-Spain
[10:08] <dettoaltrimenti> LjL thanks
[10:09] <LjL> i'd love it if one could choose the language on a per-application basis - actually, on a per-textbox basis...
[10:09] <dettoaltrimenti> so LjL will all programs by default use whatever is listed there? so kopete will use aspell as well as openoffice?
[10:09] <LjL> it's not like everybody only uses *one* language
[10:10] <jhutchins> dettoaltrimenti: oo may use it's own engine and dictionary.
[10:10] <LjL> dettoaltrimenti: OpenOffice is not a KDE application, so no. it will use whatever is set up in its config
[10:10] <LjL> KOffice will respect the KDE settings
[10:10] <LjL> and so will Kopete
[10:10] <LjL> and Konversation, and just about any decent KDE app
[10:10] <coreymon77> KanRiNiN: i believe it is the myspell program
[10:10] <KanRiNiN> thanks coreymon77
[10:11] <dettoaltrimenti> yeah, I have myspell, too. and I ihave no idea which program uses what
[10:11] <coreymon77> so you can just install myspell-es package on apt
[10:11] <coreymon77> KanRiNiN: any dictionary you need can usually be install ove rapt
[10:11] <coreymon77> over apt*
[10:11] <KanRiNiN> yeah.  I'm installing Kubuntu from fresh now over ubuntu and it's just useful to know it uses myspell still.
[10:12] <KanRiNiN> you guys recommend using aptitiude or what?
[10:12] <adam_> anyone tried to install suns jre6?  I cant figure out how to get past the license agreement
[10:13] <coreymon77> adam_: just scroll down through all of it
[10:13] <coreymon77> and then type "y" when it asks
[10:13] <fdoving> KanRiNiN: openoffice uses myspell.
[10:14] <fdoving> or rather hunspell, but hunspell uses the myspell language profiles. or something like that.
[10:14] <dettoaltrimenti> hunspell seems like the nicest out there
[10:15] <rene> Hallo
[10:17] <adam_> coreymon77: i scrolled down and nothing happened, i hit y, enter, etc
[10:17] <coreymon77> adam_: have you scrolled down the entire way?
[10:18] <adam_> coreymon77: as far as it will let me, down to the "for inquiries..."
[10:19] <coreymon77> are you installing it in a terminal window?
[10:19] <dettoaltrimenti> is tcl/tk used with any widgets in X server?
[10:19] <eguzkia> nalioth:W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: Le seguenti firme non sono state verificate perch la chiave pubblica non  disponibile: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[10:19] <adam_> yep, in konsole
[10:20] <nalioth> eguzkia: please paste your sources.list to a pastebin
[10:20] <fdoving> eguzkia: you didn't add the gpg key for kubuntu.org as described in the article.
[10:20] <fdoving> eguzkia: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.5.php  read the key part.
[10:21] <coreymon77> adam_: well, i dont know
[10:21] <adam_> me neither, lol, if only they didnt worry about licensing
[10:21] <eguzkia> nalioth: where i have to paste?
[10:22] <nalioth> !tell eguzkia about paste
[10:22] <nalioth> eguzkia: look at your Private Messages, please
[10:25] <eguzkia> nalioth:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6277/
[10:28] <nalioth> eguzkia: you are using MANY non official repos, i'd make your sources.list look like this, update your apt and try again.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6278/
[10:34] <eguzkia> nalioth:http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-proposed/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Il sottoprocesso gzip ha ritornato un codice d'errore (1)
[10:34] <justin_> I'm running Kubuntu, if I can't turn my resolution up more than 640x480 is that most likely a video card problem?
[10:34] <justin_> Err, I mean a driver problem?
[10:35] <nalioth> eguzkia: try it again, your gzip errored out.
[10:35] <eguzkia> nalioth: ok the gpg error is gone
[10:35] <oFF-beAt> so what's the difference between kubuntu cd n kubuntu dvd ? besides the medium?
[10:35] <eguzkia> nalioth: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-proposed/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Il sottoprocesso gzip ha ritornato un codice d'errore (1)
[10:35] <fdoving> oFF-beAt: dvd got more software.
[10:36] <oFF-beAt> i mean one hold 3.9 gb and the other hold 700mB there has to be a difference right?
[10:36] <eguzkia> nalioth: how can i do to resolve it?
[10:36] <fdoving> eguzkia: you might as well leave out the proposed repository. usualy the good stuff makes it to -updates.
[10:36] <nalioth> eguzkia: one of your non official repos has not packaged their stuff properly.  you need to get their gpg keys added to your keyring to stop that error
[10:36] <fdoving> eguzkia: that means add a # at the beginning of line 5 in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:36] <oFF-beAt> fdoving, like for now it would b out of dated software?
[10:37] <nalioth> eguzkia: your apt is not downloading a proper gzip.  try running your apt command again
[10:37] <kmimouni> hello
[10:37] <oFF-beAt> fdoving, a cd and online repository would b better right?
[10:37] <fdoving> oFF-beAt: yes.
[10:38] <fschmeisser> Hi folks
[10:39] <fschmeisser> I'm trying to connect to a network printer, but it doesn't recognize the printer
[10:39] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: what printer?
[10:39] <fribuntu> Hi all
[10:40] <rene> hello all
[10:40] <fschmeisser> brother hl-5250dn
[10:40] <eguzkia> nalioth: sorry i'm using synaptic and i don't understand englidh very well
[10:40] <coreymon77> okay
[10:40] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: let me check something
[10:40] <fschmeisser> k, thanks
[10:40] <eguzkia> nalioth: i need to add a # at "deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse"
[10:40] <fribuntu> I am getting this "error opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy" as my last line in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. I don't even have a /usr/lib/xserver directory. Does anybody here have such a directory?
[10:42] <fschmeisser> also, this probably ties into it: when I try to add the printer I always get a "cups daemon not running" error
[10:42] <kmimouni_> how to install flash player
[10:42] <kmimouni_> i am new user
[10:42] <fschmeisser> I had tried to uninstall /reintall cups, to no avail
[10:42] <kmimouni_> of linux
[10:43] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: let me check something
[10:43] <fschmeisser> thanks
[10:44] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: do you have the driver for the printer
[10:44] <nalioth> eguzkia: you don't need to # ANY deb-src
[10:44] <coreymon77> because that printer model does not have a dirver preintsalled
[10:44] <nalioth> eguzkia: what language do you speak?
[10:45] <fschmeisser> I got the windows cd, but cdrom doesn't recognize a cd loaded
[10:45] <eguzkia> nalioth: i have resolved the problem
[10:45] <Spudchat> do i need to install the java sdk for the command javac ?
[10:45] <crimsun> Spudchat: for which Ubuntu release?
[10:45] <eguzkia> nalioth: i add a # at #deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[10:46] <Spudchat> crimsun, dapper
[10:46] <eguzkia> nalioth: what do you think
[10:46] <crimsun> !sun-java5-jdk dapper
[10:46] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[10:46] <Spudchat> thx
[10:47] <archangel_> hey how do I get on the net using a cable modem?
[10:47] <archangel_> my ethernet works fine
[10:47] <archangel_> I dont know why its not working
[10:48] <underdog5004> I can't boot the edgy live cd. I'm on a DG965WH mobo, and after I select "Run/Install Kubuntu" the progress bar bounces back and forth a couple of times, then I get a BusyBox shell that says "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3) Built-in Shell (ash). the prompt says (initramfs). Any ideas?
[10:48] <archangel_> it lights up and tells me that its getting data transfer
[10:48] <eguzkia> nalioth: do you know a good dvd player for linux?
[10:48] <jhutchins> archangel_: What's ifconfig say?
[10:48] <eguzkia> someone knows a good dvd player for linux?
[10:48] <firephoto> underdog5004: that live cd doesn't have support for the pata_marvell controller.
[10:48] <nalioth> !tell eguzkia about dvd
[10:49] <underdog5004> firephoto, so, what should I use to install?
[10:49] <archangel_> I'm a newbie, so bare with me...... checking now
[10:49] <firephoto> underdog5004: feisty herd4 would work if you feel confident with running a pre-release.
[10:50] <firephoto> underdog5004: your other option would be to use another computer to install the system then move the drive to the 965 system.
[10:50] <jhutchins> archangel_: Tell me a little bit about your system. Is this a dual-boot system?  It's been on-line ok with windows?
[10:50] <firephoto> underdog5004: *install and update, then move.
[10:51] <archangel_> Do i need to have it pluged in to use that command? (I have only one cable, so I have to switch from mine to the pc I'm fixing)
[10:51] <coreymon77> okay
[10:51] <archangel_> no, its a Linux only system
[10:51] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: you do have the cd?
[10:51] <underdog5004> firephoto, ok, I think I'll do that, cause this box is for a customer...don't wanna give 'em alpha software
[10:51] <archangel_> (now)
[10:51] <eguzkia> nalioth: my problem is that i can't see some dvd
[10:51] <firephoto> underdog5004: edgy + updates has the pata_marvell module. your onboard nic might now work though. (it didn't for me)
[10:51] <fschmeisser> yes
[10:52] <nalioth> eguzkia: follow the instructions on the page ubotu told you about
[10:52] <firephoto> underdog5004: *might not work... i'm not sure if that uses the same nic as my dg965ss.
[10:52] <eguzkia> nalioth: ok thank you and sorry
[10:52] <archangel_> is there specific info you need on the ifconfig results?
[10:52] <jhutchins> archangel_: Ok, I don't know the details of your ISP, but usually a cable modem will associate the lease/IP assignment for the PC by the network adapter's Media Access Code (MAC).  If you want to switch PC's, you often have to un-plug the cable modem power cord, let it reset, plug it back in, then start the new PC.
[10:53] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: i am going to try and find the driver for you, but if not, we will try to work with the cd
[10:54] <fschmeisser> ok
[10:54] <archangel_> of the 100's of pc's I have had connected to my line this would be the first I would ahve to do that to, but hey, I'll try it
[10:54] <jhutchins> archangel_: What most of us end up with is a firewall/router between the PC's and the cable modem.
[10:54] <jhutchins> archangel_: This is a LOT safer too, having the firewall on a seperate box.
[10:54] <archangel_> I have niether
[10:54] <archangel_> unless it is built in to the modem
[10:55] <jhutchins> archangel_: If you have an older PC and a couple of spare network cards, building your own firewall/router is a great linux project.  (You'll need a hub or a switch too though.)
[10:55] <archangel_> fresh build machine with 3800 cpu
[10:55] <juano> anyone have a direct link to skydomes ?
[10:55] <Gaz> how do i clean up the adept downloads?
[10:55] <archangel_> hmmm, ok I might do that
[10:56] <jhutchins> archangel_: Anyway, try the reset, if that doesn't work, you'll need to look at NIC driver and network configuration.  I know how to do it in a text-only console, but I don't know the kubuntu tools, so I'll step back and let someone else help you.
[10:56] <archangel_> kinda wanted to build a satalite decoder for direct tv with my extra parts
[10:56] <archangel_> :o)
[10:57] <archangel_> ok, thanks dude
[10:57] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: i found it
[10:57] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: go to http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/lpr_drivers.html
[10:57] <coreymon77> scroll down to debian drivers
[10:58] <coreymon77> and find the one for your printer
[10:58] <fschmeisser> I'm there
[10:58] <parkerw207> guys any help with wifi ? i keep loosing signal whcih i know i do when i am in my bedroom cos the singal is weak , but for some reason when i loose conection and rescan it says no networks found :S even if i am right next the wifi box and there i more than one in my town
[10:58] <fschmeisser> will do, thanks corey
[10:58] <eguzkia> how can i resolve that: encrypted or faulty dvd
[10:59] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: then install the deb fiel, once you have downlaoded it
[10:59] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: then add your printer to the printer list on your comptuer
[10:59] <Wulfe> does anybody know the source list for kubuntu for beryl ?
[11:00] <jhutchins> !dvd | eguzkia
[11:00] <ubotu> eguzkia: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:00] <jhutchins> Wulfe: I know it's on source-o-matic:
[11:00] <fschmeisser> htanks
[11:00] <jhutchins> !easysources | Wulfe
[11:00] <ubotu> Wulfe: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:00] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: no problem
[11:01] <nalioth> eguzkia: all instructions are on the dvd page that ubotu sent you.  what languages are you familiar with?
[11:02] <nalioth> eguzkia: join #ubuntu-it for more italian speakers
[11:03] <Wulfe> so is beryl considered a default repositorie or a nonstandard repositorie
[11:03] <crimsun> it's completely non-standard.
[11:04] <crimsun> default == enabled by default in a fresh Ubuntu install
[11:05] <eguzkia> nalioth: only one question i need libdvdcss2 where i cccccind it?
[11:05] <eguzkia> nalioth: only one question i need libdvdcss2 where i find it?
[11:05] <poningru> !wmv | coreymon77
[11:05] <ubotu> coreymon77: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:06] <nalioth> eguzkia: it's all on that dvd page ubotu sent you
[11:06] <nalioth> !tell eguzkia about libdvdcss
[11:07] <mihail> Hi All
[11:08] <Prisoner_> hello
[11:10] <fschmeisser> coreymon77: u still there?
[11:10] <coreymon77> yup
[11:10] <coreymon77> whats the matter
[11:11] <fschmeisser> didn't install because I run amd64 cpu
[11:11] <coreymon77> oh
[11:11] <fschmeisser> and I didn't see a 64 bit version
[11:11] <coreymon77> well then, i dont know, i dont know much about amd64s
[11:11] <coreymon77> sorry
[11:11] <adam_> yeah i gave up on java for now, now it saying the DbDriver is busy when i tried to restart the install
[11:12] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: but ill still try
[11:13] <Jonty> Edgy can mount NTFS rw, can't it?
[11:13] <fschmeisser> no problem, I been having other issues due to the architechture, with java, forced firefox 32 bit etc
[11:13] <SolidSource> Jonty: yes but if you do set it to writable it has potential to destroy the partion
[11:13] <coreymon77> oh
[11:13] <coreymon77> umm
[11:14] <SolidSource> partition
[11:14] <fschmeisser> automatix2 made it workable though
[11:15] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: did thw file not install, or not work?
[11:15] <fschmeisser> instaall error
[11:16] <eguzkia> nalioth: i have always this problem: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/edgy-seveas/list_of_sections/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[11:16] <fschmeisser> dpkg: error processing brhl5250dnlpr-2.0.0-1.i386.deb (--install):
[11:16] <fschmeisser>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[11:16] <nalioth> eguzkia: that page doesn't exist
[11:17] <coreymon77> fschmeisser: i dont know
[11:17] <coreymon77> sorry
[11:17] <fschmeisser> that's ok, I'll live to fight another day LOL
[11:18] <fschmeisser> I'll look around the mfr support site
[11:19] <cpk1> fschmeisser: you should be doing it in a chroot enviroment, but there is also a force architecture option with dpkg
[11:21] <fschmeisser> that might work, thanks. let me find out about that
[11:25] <adam_> should any processes for booting and shutting down be set at startup in kcontrol?
[11:30] <eguzkia> nalioth: at end i found it on "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main"
[11:30] <nalioth> eguzkia: the link is on the dvd page
[11:30] <nalioth> eguzkia: it is on your system already, you just have to install it
[11:32] <eguzkia> nalioth: ok ihave installed libdvdcss2!!
[11:35] <adam_> should any processes for booting and shutting down be set at startup in kcontrol?
[11:36] <Linux_Galore> adam_: its up to you
[11:37] <adam_> i guess i should read up on what ones do what, my laptop crashes alot on boot and shutdown
[11:38] <adam_> im hoping one or more of those will help
[11:38] <nagyv> if I plug in many (mouse, bluetooth, pendrive) usb-sticks to my laptop, then the first plugged in things won't work any more, neiter after unmounting the pendrive. How can I revive them withouth rebooting?
[11:43] <jhutchins> nagyv: Un-plug 'em and plug 'em back in again?
[11:44] <jhutchins> nagyv: How many ports do you have/
[11:44] <jhutchins> ?
[11:44] <intelikey> anyone have command "switchto"  ?    would you please do a "type `which switchto` "  for me ?
[11:46] <jhutchins> intelikey: switchto what?  Switch what to what?  switch what where?
[11:46] <intelikey> command.
[11:46] <surgy> anyone versed in C wanna give me a qoute on a project?
[11:46] <nagyv> jhutchins: doesn't work. I have 5 ports in total, and now actually one of them remained alive. Even kbluetoothd was crashed (at least its icon), but when I unplugged the stick it realised it, and from that time on the icon "wors", but a replugged stick is not recognized. The only remaining probelm is the usb mouse.
[11:47] <intelikey> !cli | jhutchins
[11:47] <ubotu> jhutchins: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:48] <jhutchins> intelikey: Been at this since printing terminals.  Punchcards and waiting for output in a physical mailbox enven.
[11:48] <jhutchins> switchto is part of the "open" package.
[11:49] <intelikey> jhutchins so is it a symlink script or what ?
[11:49] <jhutchins> /usr/bin/switchto on mandriva, not installed on my kubuntu
[11:49] <intelikey> ok thanks.
[11:50] <jhutchins> intelikey: ELF 32-bit LSB executable
[11:50] <intelikey> thank you.
[11:50] <intelikey> that's what i wanted to know
[11:50] <jhutchins> intelikey: From the man page:
[11:50] <jhutchins> switchto  will  change  the  current  VT to the vt specified. Useful to
[11:50] <jhutchins>        change VTs when the hotkey sequence is unavailable for some reason,  or
[11:50] <jhutchins>        from within scripts.
[11:50] <fdoving> jhutchins: you can use 'chvt'
[11:52] <jhutchins> nagyv: It's possible you're drawing more power than your laptop can supply.
[11:52] <jhutchins> nagyv: I think the whole udev/hotplug system is a bit unstable these days, and I know approximately where you'd have to look to deal with that if it's a code problem, it's VERY complex.
[11:52] <coreymon77> guys
[11:53] <coreymon77> my sound i screwed up
[11:53] <intelikey> x
[11:54] <crazy_penguin> Good night!
[11:55] <nagyv> jhutchins: I have restarted now udev, but it did not helped, I tried to find something unusual in dmesg, here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6291/
[11:59] <intelikey> script###   echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\nTTY="`basename $0`" \nfuser /dev/tty$TTY && chvt $TTY || openvt -fc $TTY' > get-me-a-tty.sh ;for Q in 1 2 3 4 5 6 ;do ln -s get-me-a-tty.sh $Q ;done ;chmod 755 get-me-a-tty.sh
[12:00] <intelikey> that's why i asked      ^   :)
[12:01] <SolidSource> I've got a Brother 7820N (network connected)::anyone know where PPD file for brother printer gets put? cause my printer doesn't get listed
[12:02] <linopil> SolidSource: you using cups ?
[12:02] <linopil> !cups
[12:02] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:03] <linopil> You use URI SolidSource
[12:04] <linopil> coreymon77: it happens
[12:04] <SolidSource> I know
[12:04] <SolidSource> I've gotten it setup before...but the thing is just printing crap
[12:04] <coreymon77> linopil: its not that, all the levels on kmmix are messed beyong repair
[12:05] <coreymon77> i ahve tried whiping them out, but it doesnt work
[12:07] <linopil> SolidSource:  did you look at http://localhost:631/
[12:07] <linopil> corey kmmix = kmix ?
[12:07] <SolidSource> yes, I just need the PPD file
[12:07] <linopil> SolidSource: not listed you say
[12:08] <linopil> !ssh
[12:08] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:08] <coreymon77> linopil: ya, sorry
[12:08] <carrie> why do the madwifi drivers not get installed with the most recent kernel?
[12:08] <coreymon77> linopil: it seems that the only way to fix it is too whipe out all of my sound settings, kmix alsa, everything
[12:09] <coreymon77> and reset all fo them back to the way they were when my system was installed
[12:09] <linopil> coreymon77:  why not try aplay from command line
[12:09] <SolidSource> linopil: I'm talking its not listed when selecting the driver....so I need the PPD file so that it has the correct driver
[12:09] <coreymon77> what is aplay?
[12:09] <linopil> man aplay in konqueror
[12:10] <linopil> playing a wave from comman line
[12:10] <coreymon77> my sound system is down now
[12:11] <linopil> coreymon77:  you may goto konsole
[12:11] <linopil> cd /usr/share/sounds
[12:11] <linopil> ls
[12:11] <berkes> wikipedia crashed? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llama gives me an error
[12:12] <linopil>  aplay  a-sound-file.wav
[12:12] <linopil> !alsa
[12:12] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3