[12:15] <LarstiQ> hmm, it's fairly unstable through level3
[12:18] <LarstiQ> feh, rebooting my openwrt took care of that
[12:18] <LarstiQ> LeeJunFan: I'm not aware of anyone raising such an issue before
[12:18] <LeeJunFan> from here it looks like latency doubles on cogent's net.
[12:19] <Fujitsu> I get 200ms latency on the first Level3 hop, before that it's <10ms.
[12:19] <LeeJunFan>  7  p6-0.core01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.42)  45.283 ms  51.565 ms  55.448 ms
[12:19] <LeeJunFan>  8  p3-0.core01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.0.45)  248.878 ms  144.355 ms  199.254 ms
[12:19] <LeeJunFan> sounds similar to that.
[12:20] <LeeJunFan> doesn't make sense to me though to increase 200ms on the same carrier network unless they've got issues.
[12:20] <elmo> LeeJunFan: umm, that's Boston to London
[12:21] <elmo> which is a not insubstantial amount of miles.  granted 200ms is more than it should be, but it's also not completely out of the ball park
[12:21] <LeeJunFan> ah, heh. Why london for us archive I wonder?
[12:21] <elmo> anyway, yes, we're having network issues, we're working with our ISP to resolve them
[12:22] <elmo> LeeJunFan: because normally it's better than any of our US mirrors
[12:22] <Fujitsu> elmo: Is this why LP has been dismally slow lately?
[12:22] <LeeJunFan> elmo: okay, thanks.
[12:30] <elmo> Fujitsu: no
[12:30] <elmo> Fujitsu: non-bulk traffic, which includes Launchpad, was only affected for about 30 mins max, several hours ago
[12:30] <Fujitsu> elmo, oh, darn.
[12:31] <LeeJunFan> Fujitsu: oh darn it wasn't affected longer? :)
[12:31] <LarstiQ> oh darn it doesn't explain the slowdown
[12:31] <Fujitsu> LarstiQ, that's it.
[12:31] <LeeJunFan> LarstiQ: I know - was a joke.
[12:32] <LarstiQ> LeeJunFan: oh darn :)
[12:32] <Fujitsu> >30 seconds to load a list of 10 package bugs isn't ideal.
[12:32] <elmo> Fujitsu: example URL?
[12:33] <Fujitsu> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayer/+bugs takes 20-25 seconds to load here at the moment.
[12:33] <Fujitsu> (I have minimal issues with other international sites)
[12:34] <LarstiQ> looks like 3 seconds for me
[12:34] <elmo> Fujitsu: what's your BW?
[12:34] <elmo> Fujitsu: e.g. how much can you get from wget -O /dev/null http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ubuntu-desktop-i386.iso
[12:36] <Fujitsu> I regularly get 1.1MBps to Australian sites.
[12:36] <Fujitsu> Normally about 100KBps for archive.ubuntu.com
[12:37] <Fujitsu> (that's a 404, but I've corrected it)
[12:37] <Fujitsu> Seems to be about 60KB/s
[12:37] <elmo> I was typing from memory
[12:37] <Fujitsu> Now 50.
[12:43] <elmo> Fujitsu: ok, so you just have very bad BW to the UK, the speed problem's not actually intrinsic to launchpad
[12:45] <Fujitsu> OK :(
[12:48] <Fujitsu> I get ~300KBps to se.releases.ubuntu.com, and a number of other European sites, so it seems to basically just be the UK
[12:53] <elmo> fujitsu: try http://durville.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso for me?
[12:54] <Fujitsu> 600K and rising
[12:55] <elmo> blink
[12:55] <elmo> that's the LP link
[12:55] <Fujitsu> How very strange.
[12:57] <daviey> Is there any reason karma doesn't update immediately?
[01:03] <LarstiQ> daviey: it's expensive to calculate
[01:04] <daviey> LarstiQ, lets donate ;)
[01:47] <ddaa> elmo: somebody is sucking up all of lanchpad?
[01:54] <LarstiQ> ddaa: I'm not sure if you would, but perhaps you also enjoy reading http://www.fixedearth.com/
[01:57] <ddaa> HFG!
[01:57] <ddaa> I'd be curious to see how they refute Foucault's pendulum...
[01:57] <ddaa> LarstiQ: ever seen one?
[01:58] <Fujitsu> LarstiQ: Haha.
[01:58] <LarstiQ> ddaa: no, but I'm familiar with the experiment.
[01:58] <LarstiQ> ddaa: the site design reminds me of timecube, another favorite
[01:58] <ddaa> LarstiQ: there's a museum in Paris where you can see one
[01:59] <ddaa> it's quite hypnotic, and _does_ turn around perceptibly...
[02:00] <LarstiQ> if I ever do visit Paris, I should go see that.
[02:00] <LarstiQ> And I really need to read the book too.
[02:02] <ddaa> If I recall correctly, it's the "Muse des Arts et Mtiers"
[02:03] <ddaa> yup: http://visite.artsetmetiers.free.fr/pendule_musee.html
[02:05] <jam> ddaa: "Foucault's pendulum" Is that the one that you can keep the time of day?
[02:05] <jam> IIRC, in the Museum of Science and Industry here is Chicago, they have a pendulum set up in one of the staircases
[02:05] <jam> that tells you what time it is
[02:05] <ddaa> jam: not really, unless it's placed on a geographic pole :)
[02:06] <jam> but I might have misunderstood how they were doing it
[02:06] <ddaa> The one in Paris does a complete revolution in 31 h 47 min.
[02:07] <ddaa> it's a function of the latitude
[02:14] <LaserJock> LP is offline?
[02:15] <ddaa> works here
[02:15] <ddaa> mh... beta is down
[02:15] <LaserJock> yeah, I was on beta, but regular LP works
[02:16] <ddaa> that's weird
[02:17] <ddaa> mh... wait a min...
[02:17] <ddaa> it should be the automatic rollout going on
[02:17] <LaserJock> ah
[02:19] <ddaa> LarstiQ: though I try, I find the entertainment value of this site quite limited
[02:20] <ddaa> how can anybody with so little taste in colors be trusted to have judgment in science? I ask you!
[02:21] <ddaa> apparently it's a bunch of fundamentalists who discovered that the history of science is full of errors, arguments, and political issues...
[02:22] <LaserJock> colors? the font changes are what's killing me
[02:23] <ddaa> then you must be color blind, the pain of the font changes is drowned in the LSD tripness of the colors...
[02:26] <LarstiQ> bah, lwn.net text is far too stable
[02:26] <ddaa> yeah, but it feature actual humor
[02:27] <ddaa> How can that not bring a smile to the face of any linux geek? "There is, beyond doubt, some X resource which can be employed to change that font, but your editor, it must be said, has not found messing around with X resources cool for some years now."
[02:44] <LarstiQ> hehe
[03:55] <lotusleaf> I have a launchpad account and have edited the kubuntu+ubuntu wikis a tiny bit in the past, but made a mistake and deleted my wiki portion account somehow so I can't login in either ubuntu or kubuntu wikis but I can login in launchpad
[03:55] <lotusleaf> how may I remedy this please? :-)
[04:03] <lotusleaf> it says I'm already logged into launchpad but it gives a wrong password message on the wiki, so using the option to send myself my lp password wouldn't do it
[07:24] <Fujitsu> Hi, is there a reason that beta is down?
[07:24] <Fujitsu> And is it deliberate that the publisher seems to not be running?
[02:35] <Gwaihir> Ng: can I bother?
[09:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #85868 in malone "xorg does not recognize 1440x900 screens of toshiba laptops. A nightmare for newbies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85868
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #85869 in malone "No sound in laptops with Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85869