[12:15] hmm, it's fairly unstable through level3 [12:18] feh, rebooting my openwrt took care of that [12:18] LeeJunFan: I'm not aware of anyone raising such an issue before [12:18] from here it looks like latency doubles on cogent's net. === LarstiQ can't really help [12:19] I get 200ms latency on the first Level3 hop, before that it's <10ms. [12:19] 7 p6-0.core01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.42) 45.283 ms 51.565 ms 55.448 ms [12:19] 8 p3-0.core01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.0.45) 248.878 ms 144.355 ms 199.254 ms [12:19] sounds similar to that. [12:20] doesn't make sense to me though to increase 200ms on the same carrier network unless they've got issues. [12:20] LeeJunFan: umm, that's Boston to London [12:21] which is a not insubstantial amount of miles. granted 200ms is more than it should be, but it's also not completely out of the ball park [12:21] ah, heh. Why london for us archive I wonder? [12:21] anyway, yes, we're having network issues, we're working with our ISP to resolve them [12:22] LeeJunFan: because normally it's better than any of our US mirrors [12:22] elmo: Is this why LP has been dismally slow lately? [12:22] elmo: okay, thanks. [12:30] Fujitsu: no === jml_ [n=jml@59.167.202.65] has joined #launchpad [12:30] Fujitsu: non-bulk traffic, which includes Launchpad, was only affected for about 30 mins max, several hours ago [12:30] elmo, oh, darn. === jml [n=jml@59.167.202.65] has joined #launchpad [12:31] Fujitsu: oh darn it wasn't affected longer? :) [12:31] oh darn it doesn't explain the slowdown [12:31] LarstiQ, that's it. [12:31] LarstiQ: I know - was a joke. [12:32] LeeJunFan: oh darn :) [12:32] >30 seconds to load a list of 10 package bugs isn't ideal. [12:32] Fujitsu: example URL? === Fujitsu finds one. [12:33] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayer/+bugs takes 20-25 seconds to load here at the moment. [12:33] (I have minimal issues with other international sites) [12:34] looks like 3 seconds for me [12:34] Fujitsu: what's your BW? [12:34] Fujitsu: e.g. how much can you get from wget -O /dev/null http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ubuntu-desktop-i386.iso === Keybuk [n=scott@wing-commander.netsplit.com] has joined #launchpad [12:36] I regularly get 1.1MBps to Australian sites. === Fujitsu tries that. [12:36] Normally about 100KBps for archive.ubuntu.com [12:37] (that's a 404, but I've corrected it) [12:37] Seems to be about 60KB/s [12:37] I was typing from memory [12:37] Now 50. [12:43] Fujitsu: ok, so you just have very bad BW to the UK, the speed problem's not actually intrinsic to launchpad [12:45] OK :( [12:48] I get ~300KBps to se.releases.ubuntu.com, and a number of other European sites, so it seems to basically just be the UK === effie_jayx [i=be25f802@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-dea3e869c0356d26] has joined #launchpad [12:53] fujitsu: try http://durville.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso for me? [12:54] 600K and rising [12:55] blink [12:55] that's the LP link [12:55] How very strange. [12:57] Is there any reason karma doesn't update immediately? [01:03] daviey: it's expensive to calculate [01:04] LarstiQ, lets donate ;) === jelmer [n=jelmer@a62-251-123-16.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #launchpad === Undertow [n=None@i-83-67-5-113.freedom2surf.net] has joined #launchpad === CodeDragon [n=None@i-83-67-5-113.freedom2surf.net] has joined #launchpad === neversfeldilein [n=chrman@nrbg-4db44677.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@59.167.202.65] has joined #launchpad [01:47] elmo: somebody is sucking up all of lanchpad? === jml [n=jml@59.167.202.65] has joined #launchpad [01:54] ddaa: I'm not sure if you would, but perhaps you also enjoy reading http://www.fixedearth.com/ [01:57] HFG! [01:57] I'd be curious to see how they refute Foucault's pendulum... [01:57] LarstiQ: ever seen one? [01:58] LarstiQ: Haha. [01:58] ddaa: no, but I'm familiar with the experiment. === jml [n=jml@59.167.202.65] has joined #launchpad [01:58] ddaa: the site design reminds me of timecube, another favorite [01:58] LarstiQ: there's a museum in Paris where you can see one [01:59] it's quite hypnotic, and _does_ turn around perceptibly... [02:00] if I ever do visit Paris, I should go see that. [02:00] And I really need to read the book too. [02:02] If I recall correctly, it's the "Muse des Arts et Mtiers" [02:03] yup: http://visite.artsetmetiers.free.fr/pendule_musee.html === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #launchpad [02:05] ddaa: "Foucault's pendulum" Is that the one that you can keep the time of day? [02:05] IIRC, in the Museum of Science and Industry here is Chicago, they have a pendulum set up in one of the staircases [02:05] that tells you what time it is [02:05] jam: not really, unless it's placed on a geographic pole :) [02:06] but I might have misunderstood how they were doing it [02:06] The one in Paris does a complete revolution in 31 h 47 min. [02:07] it's a function of the latitude [02:14] LP is offline? [02:15] works here [02:15] mh... beta is down [02:15] yeah, I was on beta, but regular LP works [02:16] that's weird [02:17] mh... wait a min... [02:17] it should be the automatic rollout going on [02:17] ah [02:19] LarstiQ: though I try, I find the entertainment value of this site quite limited [02:20] how can anybody with so little taste in colors be trusted to have judgment in science? I ask you! === LarstiQ does have a masochistic streak [02:21] apparently it's a bunch of fundamentalists who discovered that the history of science is full of errors, arguments, and political issues... [02:22] colors? the font changes are what's killing me [02:23] then you must be color blind, the pain of the font changes is drowned in the LSD tripness of the colors... === ddaa goes to read lwn.net instead [02:26] bah, lwn.net text is far too stable [02:26] yeah, but it feature actual humor [02:27] How can that not bring a smile to the face of any linux geek? 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A nightmare for newbies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85868 [09:31] New bug: #85869 in malone "No sound in laptops with Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85869 === mholthaus__ [n=mholthau@dz6330holthaus-e0.fx-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #launchpad === mrevell [n=matthew@83.70.133.106] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-168-101.25-151.libero.it] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=david@ordo.xlii.org] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@59.167.202.65] has joined #launchpad