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| poningru | ... | 01:04 |
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| poningru | rheeeeeeeeet | 03:49 |
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| jhnjwng | hello | 04:53 |
| jhnjwng | bug #74576 | 04:55 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 74576 in firefox "crash [@nsWindowWatcher::OpenWindowJSInternal] [@nsContentTreeOwner::ShowAsModal] [@nsXULWindow::ShowModal] " [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74576 | 04:55 |
| jhnjwng | why is it still in status of "Needs info"? | 04:56 |
| poningru | ... | 05:07 |
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| AlexLatchford | *Yawns* | 10:13 |
| poningru | rheeeeeeeeeet | 01:37 |
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| gnomefreak | is Html Validator 0.8.3.4 in the repos | 02:29 |
| gnomefreak | asac: did we push an update to edgys firefox into repos? | 02:36 |
| gnomefreak | ok what time was agreed on? I keep seeing it get moved around. maybe we should start on the 26th instead of this monday? I need to contact him to set it up would like to do it before our spot gets taken (if we have a spot) | 03:08 |
| gnomefreak | do we have a tag for reading crash reports? | 03:44 |
| asac | mt-traced I guess ... maybe we should use mt-hasreport instead | 04:40 |
| === asac is just here for a few minutes today ... have a heavy hangover :) | ||
| gnomefreak | i have a few they ran dbg on it and got backtrace but couldnt find a tag to have someone read the backtrace | 04:41 |
| gnomefreak | we can worry about it monday :) | 04:41 |
| asac | yep ... I actually i used the traced tag when there was a valid trace/backport with symbols included | 04:42 |
| gnomefreak | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed down to 25 :) it was at around 80-90ish iirc. taking break for a bit. sorry again for email flood | 05:22 |
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| asac | good work :) | 05:31 |
| asac | are they all tagged? | 05:31 |
| asac | can you please tag as mt-needtestcase and mt-needtester too. | 05:31 |
| asac | ? | 05:31 |
| gnomefreak | i will as soon as im up to date on what they are ;) | 05:32 |
| asac | so you are at need summary / description stage? | 05:32 |
| asac | ok | 05:32 |
| gnomefreak | im trying to get info from them to start with | 05:32 |
| Admiral_Chicago | gnomefreak: I went ahead and asked nixternal to put it on the Fridge | 05:32 |
| gnomefreak | Admiral_Chicago: ty i couldnt find him when i was around | 05:33 |
| gnomefreak | Admiral_Chicago: what time/date is it set for and has everyone agreed on it? | 05:33 |
| asac | on the fridge? | 05:33 |
| gnomefreak | i saw alot of changes to times so i got confused | 05:33 |
| asac | i don't know ... bug 2130 ... is pretty hard here :9 | 05:33 |
| Ubugtu | Bug 2130 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/2130 is private | 05:33 |
| Admiral_Chicago | gnomefreak: 21.30 UTC. I figured half a day is enough time to disagrre with it | 05:33 |
| asac | oops | 05:33 |
| asac | 2130 | 05:33 |
| asac | :) | 05:33 |
| asac | this monday is fine | 05:34 |
| asac | but maybe we can vary the hour a bit | 05:34 |
| gnomefreak | asac: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ | 05:34 |
| asac | ah ok | 05:35 |
| gnomefreak | here is the meetings page http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | 05:35 |
| Admiral_Chicago | breakfast. I should hear back from Richard soon | 05:36 |
| gnomefreak | if 21:30 isnt good we need to get a good time before it can be put on fridge or we will miss our own meeting | 05:36 |
| asac | this monday its fine | 05:37 |
| gnomefreak | 21:30 ok? | 05:37 |
| asac | but yeah | 05:38 |
| asac | pretty late | 05:38 |
| Admiral_Chicago | gnomefreak: david said it was fine, that's okay with me, Alex can make it. | 05:38 |
| asac | i might skip at some point | 05:38 |
| Admiral_Chicago | ohh, right well this one will be informal asac | 05:38 |
| gnomefreak | define formal and informal | 05:38 |
| gnomefreak | imho a meeting is a meeting | 05:38 |
| gnomefreak | anyway i have to get moving ill be back later | 05:39 |
| asac | cu | 05:39 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i have to eat as well | 05:39 |
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| AlexLatchford | going to burn an ISO and test it out, may update later on tomorrow | 06:30 |
| Admiral_Chicago | wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn/Herd4 | 06:37 |
| Admiral_Chicago | there is a test page on there | 06:37 |
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| AlexLatchford | yeah Herd4 was released a few days ago | 06:39 |
| Admiral_Chicago | no, there is a page to look at...to see if it installed properly | 06:39 |
| AlexLatchford | dfarning: https://launchpad.net/~mozilla-bugs the description on this page still has a spelling mistake in the mailing list | 06:39 |
| Admiral_Chicago | gotta run | 06:39 |
| AlexLatchford | oh ok | 06:39 |
| dfarning | AlexLatchford, thanks --fixed | 06:53 |
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| poningru | what we gonna do today brain? | 08:18 |
| poningru | hey guys | 09:05 |
| poningru | ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/2.0.0.2-candidates/rc4 | 09:05 |
| poningru | latest respin with all the stuff | 09:05 |
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| gnomefreak | i want tb 1.5.0.10 :( | 09:26 |
| dfarning | I want a pony:) | 09:27 |
| gnomefreak | asac: hes right looks like a point release for 2.0 | 09:27 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 09:27 |
| dfarning | do we have a date for tb 2.0 | 09:27 |
| gnomefreak | no afaik there was alot holding it back but no ETA yet just first quarter | 09:29 |
| dfarning | gnomefreak, have you thought about renaming firefox package back to mozilla-firefox | 09:30 |
| gnomefreak | poningru: i will talk to asac monday about it | 09:30 |
| gnomefreak | dfarning: cant tehre is a mozilla-firefox already | 09:30 |
| gnomefreak | there* | 09:30 |
| gnomefreak | same versions not real sure what the difference is | 09:31 |
| dfarning | mozilla-firefox is a transitional package when we rename to firefox for branding reasons | 09:31 |
| dfarning | now we can change back | 09:31 |
| === gnomefreak can get along with that if needed | ||
| dfarning | I'l post on agenda for discussion | 09:32 |
| poningru | gnomefreak: .10? | 09:32 |
| poningru | .9 candidacy is available | 09:32 |
| gnomefreak | .10 should be out soon | 09:33 |
| poningru | oh right | 09:33 |
| poningru | hmm they havent even tried packaging it yet | 09:33 |
| poningru | hold on I'll ask | 09:33 |
| gnomefreak | when it is i can build it but until than im stuck on that. waiting for info on maintainer once i get that i should have -snapshot releases | 09:33 |
| gnomefreak | poningru: upstream hasnt spun them yet | 09:34 |
| poningru | yeah I know | 09:34 |
| poningru | asking neil about it | 09:34 |
| poningru | he's sleeping now will bug later | 09:34 |
| gnomefreak | poningru: we have upstream guy in this channel :) | 09:35 |
| gnomefreak | rhelmer: you around? | 09:35 |
| poningru | oh hehe | 09:35 |
| poningru | hmm | 09:36 |
| poningru | I didnt know rhelmer was working on tb stuff | 09:36 |
| gnomefreak | hes upstream mozilla not really tb or ff iirc | 09:36 |
| poningru | he is afk | 09:36 |
| poningru | ah yeah thats right | 09:36 |
| poningru | he is build | 09:36 |
| poningru | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRjVeRbhtRU | 09:38 |
| gnomefreak | whos using feisty? | 09:40 |
| poningru | not I :( | 09:41 |
| poningru | my lappy cant use the alternative cd or the desktop cd | 09:41 |
| gnomefreak | poningru: will you go to a link for me :) | 09:41 |
| poningru | sure | 09:41 |
| poningru | you want it in ff 2.0? gp? or minefield? | 09:42 |
| gnomefreak | http://www.wretch.cc/blog/cinphy | 09:42 |
| gnomefreak | 20 | 09:42 |
| gnomefreak | oopps both | 09:42 |
| poningru | oh k | 09:42 |
| gnomefreak | 2.0 and 3.0 if you have it | 09:42 |
| gnomefreak | looking for crash | 09:42 |
| gnomefreak | let me know if you end up with report in /var/crash | 09:42 |
| poningru | no crash but I have noscript | 09:42 |
| poningru | should i turn off extensions? | 09:42 |
| gnomefreak | yes try it | 09:43 |
| dfarning | been using feisty daily since herd 3 | 09:43 |
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| poningru | dfarning: me too on my server | 09:43 |
| gnomefreak | dfarning: try that link please. i crash on it but no apport crash report :( | 09:43 |
| dfarning | much more stable on my new laptop;) | 09:43 |
| poningru | can you believe that the mysql server does not allow freakin root??? I'm like wtf | 09:43 |
| poningru | gnomefreak: no crash on 3.0 | 09:44 |
| dfarning | gnomefreak, will do | 09:44 |
| poningru | this is edgy | 09:44 |
| gnomefreak | it seems to be that persons blog | 09:44 |
| gnomefreak | http://www.wretch.cc/blog == no crash | 09:44 |
| dfarning | it closed my browser without a report! | 09:45 |
| poningru | hmm no crash on 3.0 weird | 09:46 |
| gnomefreak | not weird at all | 09:47 |
| gnomefreak | no crash on edgy either? | 09:47 |
| gnomefreak | poningru: do you have flash and java enabled? | 09:47 |
| poningru | no | 09:48 |
| poningru | no plugins | 09:48 |
| dfarning | I have both flash and java | 09:48 |
| gnomefreak | poningru: can you install flash and try it than install java and try it? | 09:48 |
| poningru | :( | 09:48 |
| gnomefreak | im betting there is some sort of JS on her/his blog | 09:48 |
| gnomefreak | poningru: wait i have edgy chroot | 09:48 |
| poningru | YAAH | 09:49 |
| poningru | its not js | 09:49 |
| gnomefreak | i can try it. but need atleast a test for 3.0 with flash9 and java (if someone has a 3.0 fully stocked | 09:49 |
| gnomefreak | poningru: what is it? | 09:49 |
| poningru | cause with/without no-script it doesnt crash | 09:49 |
| poningru | so its gotta be the flash or java | 09:50 |
| gnomefreak | i will run backtrace. David if you get time can you also run a backtrace and post it to bug 85198 | 09:50 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 85198 in firefox "when I drag some Icons , firefox crashed" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85198 | 09:50 |
| gnomefreak | oops | 09:50 |
| gnomefreak | wait a min | 09:50 |
| gnomefreak | shit hes an idiot :( | 09:51 |
| === gnomefreak thinks | ||
| dfarning | I didn't get a crash report fx shut down cleanly | 09:51 |
| === gnomefreak is gonna have to try to manualy grab backtrace | ||
| poningru | -enable-debug ;) | 09:59 |
| poningru | gnomefreak: [15:59:58] <Tomcat> poningru: http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox:1.5.0.10-2.0.0.2 "Target Release Date: Thursday 2/22 (Firefox) and Tuesday 2/25? (Thunderbird)" | 10:00 |
| gnomefreak | ty | 10:00 |
| gnomefreak | looks like a totem crash | 10:05 |
| gnomefreak | /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/totem/libtotem-gmp-plugin.so: undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit | 10:05 |
| gnomefreak | i think i have totem-xine maybe it needs something else? | 10:06 |
| poningru | ah yeah there was a wmv plugin prompt | 10:06 |
| poningru | w32codecs | 10:07 |
| poningru | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats | 10:07 |
| poningru | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs | 10:07 |
| gnomefreak | poningru: yes i know all that and i have them already | 10:08 |
| poningru | hmm | 10:08 |
| gnomefreak | poningru: not using gstreamer so wont use w32codecs :) | 10:08 |
| poningru | eew why not? | 10:08 |
| gnomefreak | poningru: im using -xine engine | 10:08 |
| poningru | ah | 10:08 |
| gnomefreak | totem-xine :) | 10:08 |
| poningru | ah I see that | 10:08 |
| gnomefreak | ill be back in a bit | 10:09 |
| poningru | switch to mplayer-plugin for wmv then | 10:09 |
| gnomefreak | more python updates :( | 10:17 |
| gnomefreak | david i am thinking about closing that bug since its the site not firefox | 10:17 |
| gnomefreak | sob | 10:24 |
| dfarning | gnomefreak, sorry I wasn't following | 10:25 |
| gnomefreak | dfarning: the crash bug on that blog link i gave was due to a file on the site | 10:25 |
| dfarning | How can a file crash a browser? | 10:26 |
| dfarning | was it media player related | 10:26 |
| gnomefreak | yes wmv file | 10:27 |
| dfarning | fx _should_ handle wmv more gracefully then to shut down;( | 10:27 |
| gnomefreak | dfarning: should yes but cant if you dont have the right codecs/player-plugins to veiw the restricted format | 10:28 |
| dfarning | gnomefreak, was it the media player that died bringing down fx or did fx die | 10:29 |
| dfarning | should be able to tell from the stack trace | 10:29 |
| gnomefreak | never got to play it. it tried to play it than poof (seems the site forces you to try and play it) | 10:29 |
| gnomefreak | this is bad | 10:31 |
| dfarning | Let's ask asac to show us how to run gdb correctly and study the result together | 10:31 |
| gnomefreak | give me a few i found a dupe of that bug from the backtrace | 10:31 |
| dfarning | ok | 10:31 |
| gnomefreak | another what looks like totem crashing ff | 10:32 |
| dfarning | do you have a like to that bug? | 10:32 |
| gnomefreak | lol no not at all it was one that crashed for me so i work on it :) | 10:33 |
| dfarning | s/link/like/ | 10:34 |
| gnomefreak | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/85198 | 10:35 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 85198 in firefox "[Feisty] FireFox crashes on trying to open http://www.wretch.cc/blog/cinphy" [Medium,Needs info] | 10:35 |
| gnomefreak | im gonna tryu a few more backtraces on it | 10:35 |
| crimsun | gnomefreak: we have a breakdown of how to process apport's dumps, correct? | 10:36 |
| crimsun | (someone in -bugs is inquiring) | 10:36 |
| gnomefreak | with differnet options being ran. | 10:36 |
| gnomefreak | you would have to know how to read a stacktrace for most part. unless he means apport-retrace | 10:37 |
| gnomefreak | than its a bit more work | 10:37 |
| crimsun | the latter | 10:37 |
| dfarning | crimsun, what do you mean by breakdown | 10:37 |
| crimsun | 16:34 < cowbud> is there a run down somewhere on using apport and all the files it produces? | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | yeah kind of we are still working out the details on it (edgys apport is not good to run them with) | 10:38 |
| gnomefreak | it errors | 10:38 |
| dfarning | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Apport?highlight=%28CategoryMozillaTeam%29 | 10:39 |
| dfarning | is a link to how we are using hooks | 10:39 |
| gnomefreak | also edgys repos are not up to date so using the -d flag may not do it right eother | 10:39 |
| dfarning | crimsun, I could email you the issues we have come across with apport and apport-retace | 10:41 |
| === gnomefreak came across all of them :( | ||
| dfarning | don't want to sound like we are whining but we do have some constructive feedback. | 10:42 |
| crimsun | if you've been in contact with Martin regarding said issues, then that's probably better | 10:43 |
| gnomefreak | we have | 10:43 |
| dfarning | Yes, all conversation has been with martin or on -dev | 10:43 |
| gnomefreak | just waiting for him to get time to work on it afaik | 10:43 |
| gnomefreak | dfarning: im working on the normal way peopel should run backtraces if it produces more info as i think it will we need to update our wiki to run it like this | 10:45 |
| gnomefreak | setting all the gdb options | 10:45 |
| dfarning | gnomefreak, ty | 10:47 |
| gnomefreak | yw | 10:47 |
| dfarning | Im not sure but to be as useful as possiable I belive that retrace -d needs to be run in a chroot with all version matching the orginal reporters versions | 10:49 |
| gnomefreak | dfarning: if martins repo was up-to-date we could | 10:49 |
| gnomefreak | he only has symbols for ff-2.0+0dfsg... | 10:50 |
| gnomefreak | we could really use thunderbird-dbg or -dbgsym | 10:50 |
| gnomefreak | martins feisty repo has it but not edgy | 10:50 |
| dfarning | do we need to work to insure that -dbg ware present for all of our packages | 10:50 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 10:51 |
| gnomefreak | and depends | 10:51 |
| gnomefreak | i suggest (dont know how much work it will be) but i think we need to hold our own repo of dbg or dbgsym packages so we know they are up to date as we update a package we can update the -dbg. but apport looks to martins repo only | 10:52 |
| dfarning | put it on my task list | 10:52 |
| gnomefreak | so if we make -dbg we cant use the -d flash | 10:52 |
| gnomefreak | flag | 10:52 |
| gnomefreak | -d flag downloads -dbgsym from martins repo | 10:53 |
| dfarning | I thought -d grabbed -sbgsym from a repos in sources | 10:53 |
| dfarning | s/a/all | 10:54 |
| gnomefreak | we dont have them in normal repos dbgsym is only in his repos i thought | 10:55 |
| gnomefreak | it seems gdb cant run firefox :( | 10:56 |
| dfarning | since apport is a ubuntu wide tools would it make since to set globel standard to build -dbgsym across all packages and stick them in a repo | 10:57 |
| gnomefreak | would have to ask martin but im 90% sure it uses his repo | 11:01 |
| gnomefreak | how do i look up error codes for firefox? | 11:03 |
| dfarning | no idea | 11:04 |
| dfarning | will look at martins repo | 11:04 |
| gnomefreak | dfarning: if you dont have his repo enabled just apt-cache search firefox and it wont list the -dbgsym unless its in one of ubuntu repos | 11:05 |
| dfarning | dfarning@dfarning-laptop:~$ apt-cache search firefox | 11:06 |
| dfarning | epiphany-browser - Intuitive GNOME web browser | 11:06 |
| dfarning | firefox - lightweight web browser based on Mozilla | 11:06 |
| dfarning | firefox-dbg - debugging symbols for firefox | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | the way i did it doesnt give any more info that makes me think ff isnt crashes | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | dfarning: you dont see -dbgsym files though | 11:07 |
| gnomefreak | only -dbg | 11:07 |
| dfarning | lets push it off to the correct media player | 11:08 |
| gnomefreak | and just that file isnt enough to get a good retrace you need to set up exactly what the user had (not as easy as it seems without the -dbgsym files | 11:08 |
| dfarning | totem-mozilla? | 11:09 |
| gnomefreak | cant yet dont know what the users have (mostlikely totem-gstreamer but hell im using totem-xine) | 11:09 |
| gnomefreak | and its crashing here | 11:09 |
| gnomefreak | closing | 11:09 |
| gnomefreak | no backtrace is able to be gotten so im assuming its closing not crashing | 11:09 |
| dfarning | where is martins repo? | 11:10 |
| gnomefreak | willing to bet if they install mplayer with w32codecs and use it as default it will work fine but i cant say use w32codecs | 11:10 |
| dfarning | i agree | 11:10 |
| gnomefreak | deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs feisty main universe | 11:11 |
| dfarning | ty | 11:11 |
| gnomefreak | im gonna add multiverse and restricted to that | 11:11 |
| gnomefreak | see what i get than if anything more | 11:11 |
| gnomefreak | dfarning: yeah add restricted and mulitverse to that | 11:12 |
| gnomefreak | multiverse even | 11:12 |
| dfarning | ok | 11:13 |
| === dfarning browsing through the repo now | ||
| gnomefreak | crimsun: can you look at a bug or 2 for me :( i attached gdb output not really alot though | 11:13 |
| dfarning | http://lwn.net/Articles/201302/ good article on ddebs! | 11:15 |
| gnomefreak | yeah but i think he got busy with feisty stuff and hasnt had a chance to update his repos in a while but he is aware of the issues last i heard | 11:21 |
| dfarning | the bit i am concered about is not keeping old version | 11:22 |
| dfarning | don't we need them | 11:22 |
| dfarning | ? | 11:22 |
| gnomefreak | we do | 11:22 |
| gnomefreak | to retrace fx2.0+0dfsg... you need that version of fx | 11:22 |
| gnomefreak | that was in edgy latest edgy is 2.0.0.1 | 11:23 |
| dfarning | We could request that old firefox -dgsym be retained | 11:23 |
| gnomefreak | im happy with martins repos only issue is there is few fx and tb stuff including flash-dbgsym | 11:24 |
| dfarning | is the build system sticking the -dbgsym in his repo or is he doing it him self? | 11:24 |
| gnomefreak | so it needs major overhaul if we are gonna use it. if you run the -d flag it gives you lib... cant be found lib... cant be found for a bunch of libs we need dbgsym for to beable to get all symbols | 11:25 |
| dfarning | could you put together an email about what you need/would like I'll turn it in to a spec or bring it up on -dev | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | dont know what their plan is but atm its using martins repos is all i know and we need to get some more in there to aid us in getting good stacktraces. hj... is going to an outside place to grab -dbg symbols to get his reports more or less full. but i dont see it being effeciant | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | dfarning: that is a huge list. im not sure exactly what libs are needed i can really only give you like tb-dbgsym and flash-dbgsym java-dbgsym | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | but there are libs that are needed but either versions dont match or there are none. i can give you the report i got from apport and add those to the list but thats about it | 11:28 |
| dfarning | gnomefreak, was not thinking list rather over view of current failings and how to fix them;) | 11:29 |
| gnomefreak | i will start with what we need in the way of dbg/dbgsym packages that apport complains about but i cant tell you what package lib... belongs to | 11:30 |
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| dfarning | ty | 11:31 |
| gnomefreak | and not sure if they are directly or indirectly related to add-ons themes or what not | 11:31 |
| gnomefreak | after my smoke ill start on it and send it to the ML | 11:31 |
| dfarning | sould good, I needs to leave for dinner before I get in trouble;) | 11:32 |
| dfarning | s/sould/sounds/ | 11:32 |
| gnomefreak | cu | 11:35 |
| gnomefreak | dfarning: when you get back its sent to ML and im off most likely for the night. reply to ML just incase power goes out :( and i will check in morning. Thank you for looking into this further | 12:04 |
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