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coreymon77nothing12:12
coreymon77my sound system is completely down12:13
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linopilcoreymon77:  ubotu is your friend12:13
carriewhy do the madwifi drivers not get installed with the most recent kernel, linux-image-generic ?12:13
linopiltry to bring it up12:13
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coreymon77how\12:14
coreymon77its not working still12:14
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frojndhello guys12:16
frojndI need help12:16
frojndwith pdfdkg12:16
frojndor I think that's the name of program12:16
frojndbash utillity12:16
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linopilcoreymon77:  what in system settings > Sound sustem general ?12:16
frojndI need pictures od pdf :)12:17
frojndpdftk is the name of the program12:17
coreymon77basic sblive "comes with the computer" card12:17
frojndmy question is how can I get jpeg pictures from it?12:18
linopilfrojnd  you can investigate  doing  << sudo apt-cache search pdf12:18
frojndI have installed pdftk...12:18
frojndand I have a pdf file that has 434 pages..12:18
linopilthen what frojnd12:18
coreymon77linopil: i would restart my comptuer to bring the sound back up12:18
frojndand I need for every page one jpeg or any other format picture..12:18
coreymon77but i have a torrent going that i cant interrupt12:18
linopilwhy not coreymon7712:19
frojndjust don't know how to do this with pdftk12:19
linopiltorrent can be interrupted and restarted12:19
coreymon77linopil: cause its going slow enough already, the last thing i need is to interrupt and restart it12:19
linopilwrong coreymon77slow enough sounds like a good reason to give it "some rest" to me12:20
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coreymon77why?12:20
coreymon77right now its going at the fatest its been so far12:20
coreymon77but still slow as heck12:21
coreymon77something wrong with my internet today, its really slow12:21
frojndhow can I convert 434 pdf pages into pictures with pdftk?12:21
linopilbecause slow torrent can be also bad timing not enough Peers you know coreymon77?12:21
coreymon77ya12:21
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coreymon77it has more peers right now that its has ever had yet12:21
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=== linopil soon to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....
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coreymon77oh nuts12:22
coreymon77umm12:22
linopilmuhabbet:  is chat in Turkish /12:22
coreymon77well, getting it back up is now the problem, my problem is why its all messed up12:23
coreymon77not*12:23
coreymon77not now12:23
linopilblame it on Bill Gates coreymon77 ;-)12:23
coreymon77you think its just dying?12:23
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linopilHe shouldnt have dropped MS unix XENIX at the time12:24
coreymon77okay12:24
coreymon77heres my question12:24
coreymon77how can i just whipe out all of the settings and reset them to the way they were when my systen was installed12:25
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linopildid you try alsa restart coreymon77?12:25
frojndLet me ask again: how can I convert pdf file of 434 pages into pictures, every page for it's picture with pdftk??? please help12:25
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coreymon77whats the command to do taht?12:25
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linopilgoogling that for you coreymon7712:26
linopilcoreymon77: http://www.google.co.il/search?q=alsa+restart+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a12:26
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linopilcoreymon77:  what about sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart ?12:27
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linopilalso ty for being still in our small room12:28
SatanMonkHello12:28
linopil!hello12:28
ubotuhello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB12:28
mau12hi12:28
linopil!hi12:29
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:29
mau12thanks12:29
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linopil!ask12:29
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:29
kubuntu_testerhello folks!12:29
mau12sometimes i just stay and read12:29
intelikey!thanks | mau1212:29
ubotumau12: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)12:29
linopil!hello > kubuntu_tester12:29
kubuntu_testera question: how can I change ATI control's font?12:29
linopil!log12:30
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs12:31
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linopil!log | mau1212:31
ubotumau12: please see above12:31
kubuntu_testerlinopil: I'm not a programmer, thanks :-)12:31
mau12ok guys see you later12:32
linopilkubuntu_tester:  I see12:32
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coreymon77linopil: okay, wait a few minutes while some files tranfer from my brothers computer12:34
coreymon77linopil: then ill just reboot my computer and bring the sound system back up12:35
linopilPM in #ubuntu-il12:35
SatanMonkSynaptic is a better package installer, am I correct?12:35
Omnifrogi like it12:35
intelikeysynaptic is not a package installer12:36
intelikeyneither is adept12:36
intelikey!dpkg12:36
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.12:36
Omnifrogit's a package manager12:36
intelikeyno12:36
intelikeyit's a frontend for dpkg12:37
angasuleit's a package divinator!12:37
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Omnifrogpthththt12:37
SatanMonklol, ok.. sorry I worded that wrong.12:37
Omnifrogdogma12:37
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tucoHiya all. I need some help getting Adept to update. Doesn't seem to work.12:38
mediacenteri need some help with RAID, anybody in here know much about it?12:38
mau12#ubuntu-es12:38
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angasule!rs12:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
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angasule!es12:39
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:39
SatanMonkI have had some bad luck with Edgy, and now I am trying Feisty Fawn, but someone told me that if I used Adept it was causing some people problems, and to try Synaptic instead12:39
mediacenteranybody know much about raid in here?12:39
SatanMonkIt kills bugs pretty good12:39
intelikey!feisty | SatanMonk12:39
ubotuSatanMonk: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+112:39
tucoAnybody can help me fellas?12:40
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SatanMonkwhat the heck was that? lol12:40
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cpk1SatanMonk: typically switching from a stable release to an alpha project doesnt fix problems12:41
tucoMy adept fetch update is stuck at 30%!12:41
SatanMonkno, I know that. but since I haven't used linux in 7 years, just thought that I would "jump" back in .. lol12:42
angasuleSatanMonk: things have changed a bit since then :)12:43
SatanMonkI remember configuring Debian 2.15.. now I see it's at 3.14 lol12:43
SatanMonkI'm finding that out A LOT lol12:43
intelikeytuco close it and open a konsole then type in    sudo apt-get upadte   && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   if you are updating the installed packages.12:43
angasuleSatanMonk: umh, debian put out what, one release since then? :P12:43
angasulenot exactly the best example hehehe12:44
intelikeytuco that will let you see what the error messages are as well as seeing what completes successfully12:44
kg0wxI've read up on s/w install steps but when I run checkinstall I always get "no rule to make target 'install'. Stop." Help?12:44
SatanMonkThe other night I was having a problem with my Edgy install... it worked fine.. rebooted and it had a tty; jobcontrol error.. couldn't get GRUB to do a damn thing with it12:44
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SatanMonkI was like a noob all over again... but then someone came into the chan with a consol prob and I could help them like o'l hat.. lol12:45
tucoIntel it is stuck at 30 and I get a connection timed out message in konsole12:45
tuco30% sorry12:45
tucoI am not sure about my repositories for a start, if they are set up correctly12:45
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jrattnerHow can I create a menu bar at the top of my screen that just has a tasklist of currently open applications12:46
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intelikeyright click12:47
jrattneryep12:47
SatanMonkangasule; I realize that debian made a large leap, in lead numbers 2 --> 3 but they had lots of testing in between that12:47
frojnddoes anyone know any program that would convert PDF file into pictures.. one pdf page for one picture??? please help12:47
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SatanMonkAny way.. I hope that my transition to linux will be a good one...12:48
provolikHi12:48
SatanMonkhello12:48
provolikI have a problem with flash player for firefox12:48
tucoI just don't know what I can't update at all. I need to install ati drivers, audigy drivers and firefox for a start. All help is more than welcome. Thank you12:49
provolikIt says me that the falsh player does not support the amd6412:49
intelikeyfrojnd !i  but; apt-cache search pdf | grep '^pdf'    might find something12:49
kubuntu_testernobody can help me? :-)12:49
jrattnerHow can I create a menu bar at the top of my screen that just has a tasklist of currently open applications?12:50
provolikI find a workaround by downloading firefox32 but it's not the solution I search12:50
provoliksomeone knows this problem and solution?12:50
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kg0wxI've read up on s/w install steps but when I run checkinstall I always get "no rule to make target 'install'. Stop." Help?12:51
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frojndintelikey: it's just12:52
frojnd>12:52
frojndand than I have to press ctrl + c12:52
intelikeyapt-cache search pdf | grep '^pdf'12:52
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cpk1provolik: there isnt a linux flash for amd64 iirc12:53
provolikdoh!12:53
provolikokay12:54
provoliknothing then12:54
provolikthanks anyway12:54
provolikbye12:54
tucoPlease folks, don't let me go back to windows. Please!12:55
Omnifrogjust breath12:55
Tm_Ttuco: What's your issue?12:55
cpk1tuco: adept/apt-get/aptitude is your friend12:55
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tucomy updates get stuck at 30%...they don't seem to work. In Konsole or Adept12:56
intelikeytuco i advised you what and why.  you ignored.  should i answer in kind ?12:56
tucoI did what you told me Intel. As I said my updates are stuck at 30%12:56
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intelikeyshow me the line of text12:57
intelikeyfrom the apt command ^12:57
tucohold on12:57
intelikeydon't flood.   just one line12:57
tucoI am new to Linux so please bear with me12:57
tucobare12:58
intelikeysome times i bare some times i'm a bear ....12:58
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tucowhere can I show you what konsole says?12:59
intelikey!paste | tuco12:59
ubotutuco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:59
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tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6301/01:00
intelikeyyou didn't close the adept like i said  or it has crashed on you.01:00
intelikeywhich is it ?01:01
tucoI closed it before I opened konsole01:01
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tucoand nothing crashed01:01
intelikeyok  sudo fuser -k /var/lib/apt/lists/lock01:01
intelikeyand  sudo dpkg --configure -a01:01
intelikeythen re-run the apt-get command.01:02
tucosame Intel01:03
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tucostuck at 30% and then connection timed out01:03
NamShubwhere is the trash folder by default?01:03
intelikeytuco what is stuck at 30% ?01:04
tucowhen I did this: sudo fuser -k /var/lib/apt/lists/lock it gave me 540301:04
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tucoconnection/updates01:04
tucoCould not connect to gb.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out01:05
intelikeyconnection/updates ?   as in the notifier in the taskbar ?01:05
intelikeyclose it.01:05
tucoclosed01:05
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tuconope message in the konsole01:06
NamShub!trash01:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
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rylasasin_wow it sure has been a long time since I last used linux01:08
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intelikeytuco i just checked the gb mirror, no connection problems from here.    pastebin the output of this for me.     sudo apt-get update01:09
tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6303/01:11
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tucoWell if I had connection problems I wouldnt be here for sure!01:11
juano__hello everyone01:11
kg0wxI've read up on s/w install steps but when I run checkinstall I always get "no rule to make target 'install'. Stop." Help?01:12
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intelikeytuco fuser /var/lib/apt/lists/lock01:13
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intelikeytuco what does that say ?01:13
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tucolooks like I need to add something else01:14
intelikeywhy ?01:14
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tucotuco@xxx:~$01:14
tucoin konsole right?01:14
intelikeyyes01:14
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tucojust what I worte above01:15
tucowrote01:15
intelikeyok try#   fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock01:15
tucowith the #?01:15
intelikeyafter01:15
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tucoafter what sorry?01:16
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intelikey<tuco> with the #?   <intelikey> after01:16
tucohuh?01:16
holotoneSo, I plugged a projector into my laptop, which didn't work (turns out it was a problem on the projecter end)01:16
intelikeyfuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock01:16
holotoneas part of the troubleshooting..01:16
holotoneI turned on the second monitor in display properties01:17
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holotonewhen that didn't fix the problem, I unplugged the projecter, and disabled the second monitor01:17
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holotonenow my screen resolution is 640x480, and moving it to anything else causes all sorts of glitchy visual output01:17
rodrigo_hola01:18
rodrigo_que tal???01:18
holotoneany ideas for a fxi?01:18
rodrigo_alguien de habla hispana?01:18
intelikey!fixX01:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:18
Dasnipa`!es01:18
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:18
underdog5004!es01:18
underdog5004lol01:18
tucolost sorry Intel01:18
rodrigo_o portugueses?01:18
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Lynoure!pt01:19
ubotupt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.01:19
DaSkreech!TG01:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:19
DaSkreech!info frozenbuble01:19
intelikey!xorg | holotone01:19
ubotuPackage frozenbuble does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas01:20
ubotuholotone: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:20
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DaSkreech!info frozenbubble01:20
tuconeed to register for pm Intel :-(01:20
ubotuPackage frozenbubble does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas01:20
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DaSkreech!info frozen-bubble01:20
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ubotufrozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB01:20
DaSkreech!info frozen-bubble feisty01:20
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ubotufrozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.1.0-1 (feisty), package size 150 kB, installed size 712 kB01:20
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intelikeyso don't pm me.01:20
DaSkreechyay! :)01:20
tucosudo: /var/lib/dpkg/lock: command not found01:20
DaSkreechGo version 2.001:20
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intelikeytuco you are not typing what i tell you.   neither are you copy & pasting it....01:21
badpenguin4543!beryl01:21
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:21
holotoneintelikey: When following these instructions:01:22
tucoI am lost mate, don't get grumpy!01:22
holotone sudo aticonfig01:22
holotoneI get aticonfig not found01:22
intelikeyleft mouse button highlight.    then middle (or both if you only have two) button paste.01:22
holotoneand apt-get aticonfig says package not found01:22
gigionehow can i install my canon pixma ip 1500 under kubuntu edgy x86_64??01:22
gigione??01:22
gigionepls01:22
tucoso I type fuser /var/lib/apt/lists/lock followed by what please?01:23
intelikeyholotone i didn't write the instructions.   just knew what bot call to send you.01:23
gigionei tried for a week now?01:23
gigioneno luck01:24
intelikeytuco no.   don't type any of that.  type this.      fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock01:24
intelikeynote.  /var/lib/apt/lists/lock != /var/lib/dpkg/lock     also    sudo != fuser01:24
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gigionecould anyone tell me please how can i install my canon pixma ip 1500 under kubuntu edgy x86_64??01:25
tucoI pressed enter and it looks like I need to type something else now01:25
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tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/630601:25
nagyvDaSkreech: on the frozen bubble website you can find edgy ports http://www.frozen-bubble.org/downloads/01:26
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intelikeyok. tuco   if (1) you did this command eariler   fuser /var/lib/apt/lists/lock   and it returned nothing.   (2) then you did this command    fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock    and it returned nothing.  and that's whay your pastebin says.     then (3) do this now and see what it says.              sudo apt-get update01:28
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jrattnerQuestion: How do I create a seperate "kicker" on the top of my screen?01:29
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tucosame as before...stuck at 30% with a connection timed out!!!01:30
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tucoDo you want to check my sources list or something?01:31
intelikeyok tuco do        less /etc/apt/sources.list        and pastebin that.01:31
intelikeyyes01:31
intelikeynote the "less" command is a text reader/pager you can scroll up & down in it.01:32
intelikeyq to quit less.01:32
coreymon77guys01:33
coreymon77my sou d jsut quit on me01:33
coreymon77sound*01:33
tucowhen I typed the command you asked above: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63001:33
intelikeykmenu > system settings > sound server01:33
intelikeyrestart01:34
coreymon77where is this sound server?01:34
coreymon77all i see is sound system01:34
intelikeyjrattner did you try right clicking the desktop and adding a new panel01:34
intelikeycoreymon77 yes sound system01:34
coreymon77okay01:35
coreymon77now what01:35
coreymon77im in the sound system settings01:35
intelikeyrestart it    see the button01:35
coreymon77nope01:35
jrattnerintelikey, i don't see the option to add a new panel01:35
intelikeyor disable && enable   it  which ever your version has.01:35
coreymon77all i see is a test sound button01:35
intelikeyjrattner must i start a gui  to find that for you ?01:36
DaSkreechnagyv: cool Thanks :)01:36
DaSkreechnagyv: No dapper ports?01:36
jrattnerintelikey, no just give me the proper folder or divisional hierarchy01:36
coreymon77intelikey: nope01:37
coreymon77intelikey: still nothing01:37
intelikeyjrattner try right clicking the panel then and look there01:37
nagyvDaSkreech: nobody on the net :( they have it also01:37
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jrattnerintelikey, ok i got it :)01:37
intelikeycoreymon77 hmm interesting.   ok check the wiki    here i'll summon the bot for you.01:37
intelikey!sound | coreymon7701:37
ubotucoreymon77: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:37
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nagyvDaSkreech: but I can not find out how to switch off its music01:38
DaSkreechnagyv: yeah I know01:38
intelikeyjrattner for future referance   in kde right click everything.01:38
intelikey:)01:38
DaSkreechnagyv: Everytime I start it up work stops and everyone jumps into the game01:38
DaSkreechno way to practice in peace :-(01:39
nagyv:)01:39
jrattnerintelikey, sounds good, im just attempting to make the switch from gnome to kde01:39
jrattneri hope i like it01:39
tucoso did you find something odd Intel?01:40
intelikeyjrattner if you like configuring things you'll love is.   also  hit  [alt] +[f2]   and type in   kcontrol   hit [enter] 01:40
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intelikeys/is/it01:41
marco__ragazzi...01:41
marco__c' nessuno??01:41
intelikeytuco i missed the url...01:41
jrattnerintelikey, this is going to be another dumb one, but how do i make the size change01:41
intelikeytuco looking.01:41
tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63001:41
intelikeytuco looking.01:41
tucook mate01:41
intelikeyjrattner right click on it.01:41
intelikeytuco yes i surely did.01:42
jrattnerintelikey, i did but when i go to advance and type size it doesnt effect it01:42
intelikeytuco do this    lsb-release -a      and tell me is it  edgy  ?01:42
jrattnerintelikey, i mean, it changes the size of both panels01:43
intelikeyjrattner this is not gnome.  have to apply changes.01:43
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tucoin konsole?01:43
intelikeytuco yes01:43
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tucodo I have to type sudo each before entering the command?01:43
intelikeyjrattner hmmm i'm not sure on seperate sizes...01:43
intelikeyno01:43
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intelikeytuco no01:44
tucoit says command not found!01:44
intelikeytype  lsb    and hit the tab key01:45
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intelikeyit should list all commands starting with lsb01:45
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tucocodename:edgy :-)01:45
intelikeyok.01:45
Schuenemanncan I erase my boot with fdisk /mbr ?01:45
coreymon77intelikey: that site doesnt help01:46
tucoI've downloaded the iso this morning so it can ony be it01:46
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coreymon77intelikey: that site is only if your sound doesnt work in the first plac01:46
coreymon77e01:46
coreymon77my sound was working before01:46
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coreymon77but all of a sudden quit on me01:46
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Schuenemann!boot01:46
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto01:46
intelikeytuco make your  /etc/apt/sources.list file look like that one.01:47
intelikeycoreymon77 what did you do that caused sound to fail ?01:47
snikkersomeone have used k3b with verbatim dvd+r?01:47
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SchuenemannI've used with dvd-r01:48
coreymon77intelikey: absolutely nothing, it went choppy on me and then just copped ouy01:48
Schuenemannshould be the same, I believe01:48
coreymon77out*01:48
tucowhich one Intel?01:48
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intelikeytuco which one ?    which one what ?01:48
tucotuco make your  /etc/apt/sources.list file look like that one.???01:48
intelikeycoreymon77 you need a crimsun01:48
underdog5004heh, I just discovered kasbar...it kicks ass...now I can hide my kickker01:48
coreymon77intelikey: a what?01:49
intelikeytuco the one i just sent you01:49
tucoAha01:49
Schuenemanndoes fdisk /mbr erase my boot?01:49
intelikeycoreymon77 if he's around he'll answer.01:49
Schuenemannif not, how do I do that?01:49
tucoCan I do that in adept?01:49
coreymon77intelikey: what are you talking about01:50
intelikeySchuenemann yes fdisk /mbr will write a new mbr to the first hdd01:50
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Schuenemannintelikey, without any boot options, so it will automatically start hda1 ?01:50
intelikeySchuenemann if hda1 is bootable   yes01:51
Linux_Galoreis there an "human readable" howto for kmail filtering, most of the ones Im reading just confuse the crap out of me01:51
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Schuenemannintelikey, just to make sure, we're talking about bash's fdisk command, not dos', right?01:51
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intelikeySchuenemann no.01:51
tucoI have gb before archive Intel. Shall I remove it?01:52
Schuenemannno?01:52
intelikeySchuenemann /mbr is not a device node01:52
Schuenemannso how do I that on linux?01:52
Schuenemannhow do I do that01:52
intelikeySchuenemann you would need a dos mbr and dd it to the disk.01:52
coreymon77holy cow01:53
coreymon77that could be it01:53
Schuenemannhuh? I can't erase my boot on linux?01:53
intelikeySchuenemann better to boot to hda1 and use that os to fix your mbr01:53
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coreymon77every single one of the kmix files in ,kde/share/config have disappeared01:53
Schuenemannhow, that's... weird01:54
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coreymon77that could be a problem01:55
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Gazwhat is the command for removing downloaded adept packages (in konsole) ?01:55
underdog5004sudo apt-get remove --purge package_name01:55
cpk1Gaz: uninstall or get rid of the packages?01:55
Gazget rid01:55
LynoureGaz: sudo apt-get clean  if you mean the cache of downloaded packages01:56
intelikeysudo apt-get clean    to remove the cached packages   or   sudo apt-get remove packagename  to uninstall them01:56
Gazthats the one01:56
Gazthanks :)01:56
cpk1Gaz: aptitude clean01:56
intelikeyi'm too lazy to use aptitude01:56
coreymon77intelikey: could that be a problem01:57
cpk1its easier to type apti <tab> than apt- <tab> =P01:57
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cpk1acutally apt-g <tab>01:57
intelikeycoreymon77 idk.   konsole >  sudo alsamixer01:57
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coreymon77intelikey: that works01:58
roby1973hi01:58
intelikeycpk1 it's easier for me to type urpmi to install than apt-get install   or aptitude install01:58
coreymon77but could all the config files for kmix not being there be a slight problem and a reason as too why my sound is not working?01:58
intelikeycoreymon77 shouldn't be.01:59
intelikeycoreymon77 if you remove ~/.kde/share/config   kde will just use all the system defaults01:59
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coreymon77why isnt my sound working!!!02:00
intelikeycoreymon77 and running kmix and changing volumes should write a new config02:00
gigionecould anyone tell me please how can i install my canon pixma ip 1500 under kubuntu edgy x86_64??02:01
gigioneplase02:01
gigioneplease*02:01
Menai have a problem with conecting in msn02:01
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Menawith kopete02:01
Menaany idea02:01
Menai went to kopete room to answer02:01
gigioneat least point me to a tutorial02:02
intelikeygigione  kmenu > system settings > periferals > printers02:02
Menano*02:02
intelikey!printer | gigione02:03
ubotugigione: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows02:03
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tucoIntel is the gb before archive important? And do I have to add that line:deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main02:03
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intelikeysome people print with letters, ubuntu prints with cups02:03
snikkergigione: try here: http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/#canon02:04
intelikeytuco the two letter country code just indicates which mirror to use.02:04
intelikeycoreymon77 if i had the answers to that, i would have already given them.02:04
intelikeycoreymon77 you can ask in  #buutnu   ##linux   and  #kde02:05
intelikey##linuxhelp also02:06
tucook what about the last line then?02:06
intelikeytuco not needed02:06
tucowell I am stuck at 26% now02:06
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tucoI mean I am connected to the web and here on the irc. Why can't the updates work damn it!02:07
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WiglywormUm.. are there different ndis wrappers for different versions of linux?02:09
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intelikeycompiled different  yes02:10
tucoGeez I am giving up on that one.02:10
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WiglywormI was told I should install it to get my wireless card working.. I don't have my live CD.. so I'm looking to download it.02:11
WiglywormAnd, saddly, I'm a giant linux newb.02:11
linopilhowto rekonfigure alsa from command line ?( something similar to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe ?)02:11
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coreymon77Wiglyworm: you shouldnt even be using ndiswrapper unless you absolutely have to02:12
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intelikeylinopil as[tab] 02:12
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WiglywormWell... my wireless card isn't recognized, it doesn't seem.02:13
intelikeyor is it ac[tab]  ...02:13
coreymon77what card?02:13
tucoanybody can help me with getting updates to work please? Thanks in advance.02:13
linopil<intelikey> linopil as[tab]   >> as[tab]  ?02:13
intelikey[tab]    means  hit the tab key02:13
WiglywormIt's a buffalo buffalo wli2-pci-g54s02:13
Wiglywormer.. oops, but yeah.02:14
linopilyes but tab what intelikey02:14
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v0taguzAnybody know about the location for configuration net files02:14
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coreymon77Wiglyworm: can you give me the manufacturers site for it?02:14
cpk1Wiglyworm: didnt you already get it working before? i remember helping someone with the same exact card the other day02:14
intelikeylinopil tab completion of command line editing     type   as[tab] [tab] 02:14
Wiglywormsure, one sec.02:15
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linopilOK OK that answers what q. above intelikey about reconfigure sound ?02:15
Wiglywormhttp://www.buffalotech.com/products/wireless/wireless-g-125-high-speed/wireless-g-125-high-speed-pci-adapter/02:15
WiglywormGoin AFK... be back in one sec.02:15
_raymond_house_hello all. is anyone here familiar with loadlin?02:15
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intelikeylinopil but i also said it maybe    ac[tab] [tab]      something that starts with    a     and has   conf in it...02:15
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coreymon77asoundconf?02:16
intelikeylinopil yes configuring alsa   asoundconf02:16
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intelikeywhen you get the name right you use the man pages...02:17
coreymon77intelikey: and what would that do?02:17
coreymon77i used asoundconf reset-default-card and it still didnt work02:18
intelikeycoreymon77 in answer to how to reconfigure alsa  "<linopil> howto rekonfigure alsa from command line ?( something similar to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe ?)"02:18
linopilcoreymon77:  pls cat /proc/asound/cards02:18
coreymon77intelikey: and that was so linopil could tell it to me02:19
intelikeywell there ya go.02:19
linopilha intelikey brings me aspell02:19
coreymon77intelikey: and it didnt work02:20
linopilcoreymon77:  pls cat /proc/asound/cards02:20
coreymon77coreymon@kubuntu:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards02:20
coreymon77]  0 [Live           ] : EMU10K1 - SBLive! Value [CT4780] 02:20
coreymon77                      SBLive! Value [CT4780]  (rev.7, serial:0x80221102) at 0xece0, irq 18502:20
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WiglyWormSorry about that.. back.02:21
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intelikeylinopil it's    asoundconf     man asoundconf    but i doubt that coreymon77's problem is at that level.  more like a kde issue.    one could test with  alsamixer   and  cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp02:21
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linopilcoreymon77: coreymon77:  pls cat /proc/asound/cards02:22
linopilgood sorry02:22
linopilcoreymon77:  alsamixer now02:23
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coreymon77okay02:23
linopildont forget to sudo /etc/init.d/./alsa-utils start snd_emu10k1 coreymon7702:24
coreymon77it just gave me a mixer thing02:24
linopilokay what coreymon7702:24
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linopilyes02:24
intelikeycheck the volumes for  master   and  dsp  and are not muted02:24
linopilcoreymon77:  your card name emu10k1 on top02:24
linopilgood luck coreymon7702:25
badpenguin4543does anyone know what to do about the bug in kubuntu concerning the xscreensavers/kdehoos not showing up in the list of screensavers?02:25
coreymon77 Card: SBLive! Value [CT4780]                                                  02:25
coreymon77 Chip: TriTech TR2860202:25
linopilso far so good coreymon7702:25
coreymon77master isnt muted02:25
coreymon77but whats dsp?02:25
coreymon77there is no dsp02:25
intelikeypcm02:26
intelikeymy bad.02:26
intelikeythinking two many things at once02:26
cpk1WiglyWorm: what does lshw say about the businfo for your wireless card?02:26
linopilcoreymon77: carefully play with arrow keys in alsamixer02:26
linopilpcm and master must be up coreymon7702:26
coreymon77master and pcm are both on 10002:27
linopilOK02:27
WiglyWormI... wish I knew... I'm not 100% sure what that means...02:27
coreymon77still nothing02:27
intelikeywell turn them down to about 75%   and   do this    cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp02:27
intelikey^c  to stop it.02:28
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coreymon77nothing02:28
jhutchinscoreymon77: Try messing with the ballance.02:28
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coreymon77which balance02:28
coreymon77there are a ton of them02:28
jhutchinscoreymon77: (You're sure the speakers are plugged into the right jack and working, aren't you?)02:28
_raymond_house_!linld02:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linld - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:29
coreymon77jhutchins: yes, i am sure of that02:29
jhutchinsI've got an sb live gold, only one ballance control.02:29
intelikeycoreymon77 really stupid Q  but you don't have pets in there do you ?   or could you have been on the wires ?02:29
coreymon77intelikey: i just checked my wires02:29
jhutchinscoreymon77: What happens if you cat /boot/vmlinuz | /dev/dsp?02:29
coreymon77there is no problem02:29
tucoWell I can't seem to make things work...getting tired. 39% is as much as it can go!02:29
jhutchinstuco: What servers are you trying now?02:30
tucoAh Hutch!02:30
coreymon77bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied02:30
tucosame gb02:30
coreymon77bash: /boot/vmlinuz: No such file or directory02:30
intelikeyjhutchins why would the kernel be any better than urandom ?02:30
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_raymond_house_!loadlin02:31
ubotuloadlin: a loader (running under DOS) for LINUX kernel images. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6c.really1.6c-1 (edgy), package size 43 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)02:31
jhutchinsintelikey: Sometimes I don't get any output from urandom, and the kernel sounds kinda neat.02:31
intelikeylol02:31
jhutchinstuco: Ok, time to move on to France or Swizerland.02:31
coreymon77jhutchins: there is no "balance" in alsa mixer02:31
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tucoI can't kill adept proces. Says insufficient permissions!02:32
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tucoI need the list for france ot switz Hutchins.02:32
coreymon77jhutchins: i did that command you wanted02:32
coreymon77jhutchins: do you want to know what it gave me?02:32
jhutchinscoreymon77: I saw.02:33
jhutchinsIt's interesting that you don't have access to /dev/dsp, that could be where the problem is.02:33
coreymon77and what is this balance that you are talking about02:33
WiglyWormOkay.... I'm restarting into linux on my other computer.. could someone please take me through what I need to do to get this working?02:33
_raymond_house_!man loadlin02:33
jhutchinscoreymon77: ls -l /dev/dsp02:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about man loadlin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:33
jhutchinscoreymon77: There's a balance in kmix.02:33
coreymon77jhutchins: i even tried it with sudo and it still didnt work\02:33
coreymon77acess denied02:33
jhutchinscoreymon77: On my kubuntu box with a wierd on-board sound chip, I have to move it off center to get any sound out.02:33
jhutchinscoreymon77: sudo then - sudo ls -l /dev/dsp02:34
coreymon77coreymon@kubuntu:~$ ls -l /dev/dsp02:34
coreymon77crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2007-02-17 18:51 /dev/dsp02:34
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MotorCityMadManIs there a KPDF plugin for konqeror for viewing inside ?02:35
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jhutchinscoreymon77: Ok, "groups".  Look for audio.02:35
tucoAh man this is going nowhere. I can't kill adept process because of insufficient permissions! What?!02:35
jhutchinstuco: sudo.02:35
coreymon77ya02:35
jhutchinstuco: Remember, it's running as root.02:35
coreymon77i see audio02:35
jhutchinstuco: Also, you can eliminate a possible source for errors by using apt-get update instead of adept.02:35
coreymon77jhutchins: i see audio02:36
jhutchinscoreymon77: Ok, you're a member of audio, but you can't access /dev/dsp?  That's not right.02:36
coreymon77wait a sec02:36
tucoHutch my problem is that neither adept or apt-get update function02:36
coreymon77let me see if it works in a second account02:36
coreymon77two seconds02:36
tucoso how do I kill adept from sudo?02:36
jhutchinstuco: Right. THey hang, because your servers are teh suxx0rs.02:36
jhutchinstuco: ps ax | grep adept, the sudo kill -HUP <process number of adept>02:37
tucoHey Huh?02:37
DaSkreech!msn02:37
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.02:37
tucohey huh for the suxxors thingy02:37
jhutchinsOh.  Ctrl-Alt-Esc, click the skull and crossbones on it.02:37
intelikeyjhutchins sudo killall adept02:37
jhutchinsintelikey: Thanks.02:37
intelikeyjhutchins or sudo fuser -k /var/lib/dpkg/lock02:38
jhutchinsintelikey Hm.02:38
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intelikeyshould get any of the package managers02:38
WiglyWormOkay... now what was the question.. about what does something say about my wireless card?02:38
linopilwhazup coreymon77 ?02:38
intelikeyfrontends02:38
tucowhen I type sudo killall adept it says no process killed02:39
linopilbye bye02:39
coreymon77wait a sec02:39
coreymon77i deleted the second account02:39
jhutchinsI gotta go eat guys, keep tryin!  tuco, You might get some sleep, I'll be back around 15:00 GMT tomorrow.02:39
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intelikeytuco try the second one.02:39
intelikey sudo fuser -k /var/lib/dpkg/lock02:39
linopilnope02:39
linopilsleepy sleepy02:39
DaSkreechMotorCityMadMan: Hello?02:39
tucoI did02:40
linopilmeet me other day and gave you IMs there02:40
tucono process killed! Arf02:40
MotorCityMadManDaSkreech|Yes02:40
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intelikeyand adept is open tuco  ???02:40
DaSkreechKonqueror should be able to read pdfs already02:40
tuconope02:40
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intelikeywhat did i miss....    oh never mind.02:41
linopilg'night intelikey02:41
tucoI mean there must be something blocking somewhere02:41
intelikeylinopil02:41
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cpk1WiglyWorm: do lshw and find your wireless card and see what it says about businfo02:42
MotorCityMadManDaSkreech|i opened a pdf file from web page and a download screen popup showed.02:42
DaSkreechReally?02:42
tucoLooks like I wont solve this today. Anyone in UK with updates working?02:43
DaSkreechMotorCityMadMan: can you go to settings-> configure Konqueror-> File associations for me02:44
MotorCityMadManDaSkreech|there02:44
intelikeytuco did you try with the sources.list i sent you ?     not adding  gb.   ?02:44
DaSkreechOk in the search box type pdf02:44
tucoyes02:44
DaSkreechit should get rid of everythign but application02:44
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DaSkreech expand that and click on pdf02:45
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_raymond_house_anyone familiar with loadlin or linld?02:45
tucobut it didn't do anything02:45
DaSkreechOn the right you should have two tabs click on embedding and tell me what it says02:45
intelikeytuco ok  sorry we didn't fix it then.02:45
MotorCityMadManDaSkreech|done02:45
WiglyWormcpk: is this what you wanted? "pci@00:09.0"?02:45
coreymon77nope02:45
coreymon77doesnt work in the second account either02:45
intelikeytuco "but it didn't do anything"  meaning no change ?    or meaning  it literally didn't do anything ?02:46
tucoCan I copy and paste yor source list in mine and save it?02:46
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tucoWell fiddling with it got me at 39%02:46
MotorCityMadManDaSkreech|show file in embedded viewer02:46
cpk1WiglyWorm: what else does it say about the card?02:46
tucoI can't open adept anymore because it is stuck in many processes02:46
DaSkreechAnd the list at the bottom of that tab has kpdf_part at the top?02:47
intelikeytuco you can   or even more simplely, you could  sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt     from the dir where the new file exists02:47
badpenguin4543for some reason, xscreensavers are not showing up in my list of screensavers....   does someone knoe of a work around for this??02:47
DaSkreechtuco: sudo killall adept02:47
WiglyWormThat's all it says on that card. It does say on the top line:02:47
coreymon77jhutchins: sound doesnt work in newly created second account either02:47
MotorCityMadManDaSkreech|yes02:47
WiglyWorm"network:0 dasabled"02:47
DaSkreechMotorCityMadMan: It should work then02:47
DaSkreechwhat is the URL of the site?02:48
MotorCityMadManwill try again. don't remember as that was early in the day02:48
tucoit says no process killed! :-(02:48
DaSkreechMotorCityMadMan: alright let me know if it still doesn't work02:48
tucoSorry Intel I copy and paste your source where?02:49
MotorCityMadMan<-is looking for a pdf file for DL02:49
WiglyWormAnnnd, it's saying the vendor is "broadcom BCM4306" card.. which it isn't. It's a buffalo wli2-pci-g54s02:49
coreymon77jhutchins: is it a problem that i dont have access to that file02:49
coreymon77and neither does root02:49
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intelikeytuco you wont be able to copy that file to that location as a normal user    /etc/apt/02:49
cpk1WiglyWorm: do lspci -n and then find the line that starts with 00:09.0 and paste that line02:50
tucoOk I am confused now.02:50
intelikeytuco if you can see the file i sent you from the console   ls    then you can    sudo cp sources.list /etc/apt02:50
tucoit does nothing02:51
WiglyWormlspci -n02:51
coreymon77jhutchins: help02:51
intelikeytuco how do you know ?     no error means no error.02:51
MotorCityMadManDaSkreech| working now. maybe it was just that one site/ ty for your help as i did learn something new from you @$@02:51
_raymond_house_#boot02:51
cpk1WiglyWorm: yes in a terminal02:51
DaSkreechMotorCityMadMan: That's my intention02:51
intelikeytuco you can do     cat /etc/apt/sources.list      to see what your file now looks like.02:52
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tucoin konsole right?02:52
intelikeyyes02:52
WiglyWormcpk: do you want -pci9?02:53
justin_Hey guys02:53
justin_Does anyone know where I can get a hold of windows video drivers (w32codecs)?02:53
cpk1WiglyWorm: what?02:53
WiglyWormbecause I'm not seeing a line that starts wuth "00:09.0"02:53
justin_Or is that all I need to play movies with Kaffeine?02:53
_raymond_house_!adept02:53
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto02:54
cpk1WiglyWorm: pastebin the output of lspci -n02:54
badpenguin4543for some reason, xscreensavers are not showing up in my list of screensavers....   does someone knoe of a work around for this??02:54
DaSkreech!w32codecs | justin_02:54
ubotujustin_: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs02:54
WiglyWormnm.. I found it..02:54
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justin_Is w32codecs all I need to install? or do I need something else?02:54
badpenguin4543!xscreensavers02:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xscreensavers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:54
DaSkreech!codecs | justin_02:54
ubotujustin_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:54
tucoIntel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6321/02:55
intelikeyw32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb ?02:55
WiglyWorm00:09.0 0280: 14e4:4310 (rev o3)02:55
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cpk1hrmm thats not on the ndiswrapper list...02:55
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WiglyWormI'm sorry (using 2 computers to do this) it's 14e4:432002:56
_raymond_house_!loadlin man02:56
justin_I thnk so02:56
ubotuloadlin: a loader (running under DOS) for LINUX kernel images. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6c.really1.6c-1 (edgy), package size 43 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)02:56
intelikeytuco what command did you issue to get that ?02:56
tucocat /etc/apt/sources.list02:56
intelikeytuco if so then that's the reason you can't get anywhere.02:57
tucowhy?02:57
intelikeytuco do this     find ./ -name sources.list -exec cat {} \;02:58
intelikeyand pastebin that.02:58
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tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63202:59
cpk1WiglyWorm: is this a laptop? what kind if it is?02:59
KanRiNiNHey, I'm having trouble mounting HDs.  I couldn't get fstab to work correctly so I used the disk manager in Kubutu's system settings and they mount but when I click on them, both ntfs with ntfs installed, it says I don't have sufficient permissions02:59
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WiglyWormNo, it's a desktop.02:59
KanRiNiNthanks in advance for any help02:59
intelikeytuco ok do this       find ./ -name sources.list -exec sudo cp {} /etc/apt/ \;02:59
WiglyWormDid you get my correction, cpk? I made a typo.02:59
intelikeyunless that gives errors tuco,  do this      sudo apt-get update03:00
cpk1WiglyWorm: yes i did, there are tons of cards with the pciid 14e4:4320 =\03:00
WiglyWormI can give you the manufacturer and the model number.03:00
cpk1WiglyWorm: WLI2-PCI-G54 right?03:02
scoateshi03:02
tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6324/03:02
WiglyWormg54s.03:02
scoateswhen I sleep (ACPI S3), then wake up, the revival can take anywhere from 30s to 10 mins. Is there any way for me to make this consistently fast?03:02
intelikeytuco do you have adept open ?03:02
tucoI can't kill the 5 adept processes dude03:03
tucoit says no process kill!03:03
tucosudo killall adept doesn't do it03:03
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intelikeytuco sudo fuser -k /var/lib/dpkg/lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock03:04
_raymond_house_#loadlin03:04
tucogives me 754503:04
_raymond_house_is there a channel for booting?03:05
intelikeytuco did adept close ?03:05
cpk1WiglyWorm: you have ndiswrapper installed already?03:05
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tucoyes03:06
intelikeytuco   sudo apt-get update03:06
WiglyWormno I do not. I have the ndis wrapper as a tar.gz on a CD-ROM...03:06
WiglyWormI don't have my live CD, so I can't install with adept.\03:06
cpk1WiglyWorm: this doesnt have a wired connection?03:07
_raymond_house_#ubuntu03:07
WiglyWormNot without taking the whole computer downstairs.03:07
cpk1WiglyWorm: and you dont have an install cd?03:08
tuco0% connecting to archive.ubuntu....03:08
WiglyWormNot handy. :(03:08
tucoconnection timed out again03:08
coreymon77my sound is still not working03:08
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tucoMan I am going to cut one leg and then go to bed for now. I will try tomorrow again, it is getting tiresome now.03:09
intelikeytuco   find ./ -name sources.list -exec cat {} \;03:09
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cpk1WiglyWorm: well does the computer have build-essential on it?03:10
KanRiNiNAnyone tried Kubuntu Feisty yet_03:10
tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6325/03:10
WiglyWormI.. don't know? It's pretty much an install off the live CD.03:10
intelikeytuco i think i know what you've been doing.   you have edited /etc/apt/sources.list with adept running and then close adept and it's saving the copy it had read back to /etc/apt/sources.list  ....     maybe.03:10
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tucoyou think?03:11
tucoI mean I have no clues anymore about what I did03:11
intelikeytuco i think.    cat /etc/apt/sources.list      and compare to that you just posted.03:11
BluesKajjust sudo aptititude or apt-get install design-essentails03:12
intelikeyif they are the same.   then no.    if they differ   then yes.  that's what has been killing you.03:12
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cpk1WiglyWorm: then you are going to have trouble installing from a tar03:12
BluesKajer essentials03:12
tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/632703:12
cpk1WiglyWorm: you have a usb key?03:12
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intelikeytuco ok that's not it.03:13
WiglyWorme.g. jump drive?03:13
DaSkreechKanRiNiN: Feisty rocks :)03:13
DaSkreechintelikey: Didn't the name of adept change to adept_manager or somethign?03:13
tucoso it's all bad then?103:13
intelikeytuco shut down and go to bed.   maybe tomarrow things will work better.03:13
cpk1WiglyWorm: some way to transfer files easily and quickly =)03:13
tucoAmen.03:13
WiglyWormok. Yes. I do.03:14
tucoThanks for your help mate anyway.03:14
intelikeysome times you eat the bear, some times the bear eats you.03:14
scoatesin dmesg, is the first field a timestamp?03:14
tucoand sometimes....well there aren't any sometimes.03:14
intelikeytuco at least now your sources.list file is good.03:14
coreymon77jhutchins: can you help me with my sound?\03:14
tucoyou sure?03:14
intelikeyyes03:14
_raymond_house_klgjdf gkljsdfogh sgbjkps dlfkvbhpxi gfzl'fjl xig03:15
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cpk1WiglyWorm: then download these and get them onto the other box http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/misc/ndiswrapper-common http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/misc/ndiswrapper-utils-1.803:15
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tucoAh well I go to bed now./ Cheerios dude.03:16
samiam010203anyone in here know how to register your irc nick ?03:16
intelikey/msg nickserv help03:16
DaSkreech!register03:16
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration03:16
intelikey/msg nickserv help register03:16
samiam010203thanks03:16
samiam010203 /msg nickserv help register03:17
intelikeywhy you add the space in front of /03:17
intelikeywhy you add the space in front of / ???03:17
Omnifrogspace is good03:18
jtmoneyanyone here running freevo?03:18
intelikeyOmnifrog lot funnier when they do that with their password....03:18
jtmoneyhah03:18
_raymond_house_anyone here know anything about loadlin or linld?03:19
samiam010203thansk for the info worked like a charme03:19
intelikey_raymond_house_ loadlin  i03:19
coreymon77intelikey: can you help with my sound03:20
intelikey_raymond_house_ what special needs do you have that grub or lilo can't handle ?03:20
intelikeycoreymon77 i don't know much about sound.  we have been through about all i know on the subject03:20
DaSkreech /msg nickserv identify betnoonegetsthis03:21
DaSkreech>_<03:21
_raymond_house_im trying to boot to kubuntu which is installed on my USB external drive. only problem is my laptop doesn't have USB boot support so i need to boot from DOS03:21
intelikeyand if you tell someone all you know they are sure to be smarter than you.  cause they will know all they know and all you know too....03:21
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_raymond_house_only problem is i dont know if i need to call the linux image by its actual full name or the truncated version dos shows03:22
OlgaBI'm having a problem with Conky03:22
DaSkreechintelikey: suppose they knew less than nothing?03:22
klerfaytI'm lost, I can't find moderators list in kubuntuforums.net03:22
OlgaBWhenever I run conky it shows three messages at the end of the readout that complain that it could not init font path elements03:22
OlgaBThey're long and uneeded, and they stretch conky out03:23
intelikey_raymond_house_ with the default *ubuntu kernel+initrd   no way loadlin can work  the kernel + initrd is 6m+   way too big for loadlin.03:23
intelikey_raymond_house_ the turncated     but like i said.  it won't load.03:23
_raymond_house_i thought version 1.6 fixed that? what about linld i heard it supports the newer larger kernels over 1mb03:23
WiglyWormCPK: alright, I've got them in my /home/chris folder.03:23
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DaSkreech!katapult03:24
ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.03:24
intelikey_raymond_house_ over 1m is not the problem   it's over 4m  and the ubuntu kernel + initrd.img   is well over 4m  it's over 6m03:24
_raymond_house_6.2mb together03:25
intelikey_raymond_house_ it's worth a try.    and if it don't work i'll just say i told you so,   but if it does you can say,   SEE03:25
_raymond_house_well i think you are right cause it locks up everytime i try using the truncated name and the actual name so..03:26
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_raymond_house_that or im a moron and cant follow the how to03:26
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intelikeyit's real simple command      loadlin kernel initrd=initrd.img root=/address03:27
cpk1WiglyWorm: sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper-common03:27
intelikey_raymond_house_ there is a way.   can you boot a cd ?03:28
cpk1WiglyWorm: after that install the other one too03:28
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_raymond_house_yeah but this is also a project for school to boot kubuntu off a USB external drive connected to a thin client with no CD drive03:29
_raymond_house_my professor is an evil evil man03:29
cpk1i used to run my laptop off an external drive with no problem03:29
intelikey_raymond_house_ you could modify something like the "gparted" cd so that it doesn't load gparted and does a pivot_root  insted03:30
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intelikeythus affectively making it only a boot disk for the installation.03:30
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intelikey_raymond_house_ one other way.  you could roll your own kernel compiling in the usb and ext#fs drivers (assuming ext#) so that you don't need the initrd.img03:32
WiglyWormCPK1, okay, I got both installed.03:32
intelikey_raymond_house_ loadlin could work if the initrd.img wasn't required.03:32
_raymond_house_unfortunatly im new to linux and that is WAY above my level03:33
cpk1WiglyWorm: great so ndiswrapper -l should say nothing is installed03:33
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WiglyWormcorrect. no drivers installed.03:33
intelikey_raymond_house_ that's probably why the prof did that.... :)   you don't learn unless you are challanged.03:34
cpk1WiglyWorm: oops sorry you need this driver too  ftp://ftp.dell.com/network/R81433.EXE03:34
_raymond_house_yeah good point03:34
coreymon77oh03:34
coreymon77i give up03:34
_raymond_house_and here i thought getting USB support in DOS would be the hard part03:34
cpk1WiglyWorm: or you could try the drivers you got but they might not work03:34
cpk1WiglyWorm: as it is i'm not 100% certain with these either =P03:35
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WiglyWormhm? windows drivers?03:35
intelikeyusb suppord in dos is not even needed if you compile a kernel....03:35
cpk1WiglyWorm: thats what ndiswrapper does03:35
WiglyWormah, I see.03:35
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_raymond_house_is there a how to for compiliing your own kernel?03:36
WiglyWormokay... i'm feeling kind of lazy, I'll use the drivers on the CD...03:36
intelikey_raymond_house_ many.   i don't have a good link in mind  but there are plenty of them       and the late modle kernels are pretty easy to config  with gui or ncurses interfaces03:37
_raymond_house_ill try my luck with that03:38
_raymond_house_thanks for the help03:38
cpk1WiglyWorm: make a folder like I_will_get_a_card_that_plays_nice_with_linux_next_time or something similiar to put the exe into and then unzip it there03:38
DaSkreech!kernel03:38
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild03:38
intelikey_raymond_house_ if you choose that route,   #kernel   is a good place for technical Q.03:38
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DaSkreechMan ubotu is on fire :)03:39
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intelikeyDaSkreech one note.  that "probably" expects the use of an initrd.img03:39
ForgeAusGRRRR vmware didn't tell me it needed reconfiguring when I changed kernels!03:40
ForgeAusargh!03:40
DaSkreechintelikey: Which probably?03:40
intelikeyDaSkreech that's _raymond_house_'s reason for building one.   to escape the initrd.img trap.      *the bot link*03:40
cpk1weeeeeeee03:41
DaSkreechAh03:41
intelikeyDaSkreech the kernel + initrd.img is 6m+   can't boot over 4m with loadlin03:41
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WiglyWormcpk1: wait... oh... you're talking about the .exe from the dell FTP site?03:41
WiglyWormSorry I was navigating the CD that came with my card... this driver is a .sys file.03:42
intelikeyDaSkreech the kernel + initrd.img is 6m+   can't boot over 4m with loadlin    <<< reposted.03:42
cpk1WiglyWorm: you need a .sys and a .inf03:42
WiglyWormCan you help me with that, or should I just use the .exe?03:42
DaSkreechintelikey: konversation is good at caching03:42
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cpk1WiglyWorm: is there an exe on the cd? is there just one .inf and one .sys?03:43
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intelikeyDaSkreech didn't think about the client differance.   just noticed that i posted just before the return to the split'd ones.03:43
DaSkreechQuick question03:44
DaSkreechwould cdrecord have to support BluRay/HD-DVD for k3b to support them?03:44
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WiglyWormthere are several .sys and .inf files.. and yes, there is an exe.03:44
DaSkreechit was Q q but whatev03:44
intelikeyprobably.03:44
DaSkreechcdrecord is still maintained other than drivers for drives?03:45
intelikeyheh.   Q q == 'very very fast'     q Q = 'quick question'03:45
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DaSkreechI'll have to google that but I'll  take your word for now03:46
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intelikeyas to the drivers for drives Q   idk.03:46
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SinfulSource!lppasswd03:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lppasswd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:47
WiglyWormcpk: I'm at the folder with the .sys file needed, unfortunately there's several .inf files. maybe i should just get the dell driver?03:47
WiglyWorm(there's also an .exe in this folder)03:47
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intelikeyok.   i'm went.03:48
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ForgeAusback03:54
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anon2000hi, this is probably a dumb question, but how do i change network settings in kubuntu? when i try to go to 'administrator mode' in the settings window, it asks me for root password.03:55
cntbanon2000:  starnge huh ?03:55
crimsunthat would be your /user/ password, i.e., the unprivileged user.03:55
cpk1WiglyWorm: whats the .exe?03:55
cpk1WiglyWorm: its alot easier for me to respond if you use my name03:56
anon2000it doesnt accept my password that i use to logon03:56
WiglyWormbwcsrv.exe...03:56
anon2000i couldve swore it said root password03:56
WiglyWormOh, sorry.03:56
cpk1that doesnt sound useful03:57
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WiglyWormThere's alot of .exes.03:57
cpk1WiglyWorm: bcmwl5.inf and .sys?03:57
WiglyWormSaddly none of the .sys files match.03:57
WiglyWormthe .exe03:57
WiglyWormErrrr I confused myself. None of the .inf match the .sys I'm supposed to use.03:58
cntbthere is a root password anon200003:58
cntbyou chose that at install time03:59
cntbanon2000:  should have written that down03:59
anon2000the password for my user is the root password?03:59
anon2000it only ever asked me to set one password03:59
cpk1WiglyWorm: hrmm03:59
cntbnope anon2000you can choose those two passwords to be the same string04:00
cpk1WiglyWorm: is there a R81433.EXE?04:00
anon2000is that a kubuntu thing? i dont remember having to do that in ubuntu04:00
cpk1how many .inf are there?04:00
WiglyWormthere are 4 .infs.04:01
WiglyWormDon't worry about it, I'm just downloading the dell .exe you sent a while back. We'll try that.04:01
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WiglyWormcpk: okay, the r81433.exe file is on my linux box.04:04
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jceben donde estoy?04:06
jcebes que estoy manejando me perdi04:07
jceblinux04:07
jcebasi que no se!04:07
jceben que parte del mundo estoy?04:07
WiglyWormHmm... so *anyone* know what I'm supposed to do with this exe file now that I have the ndis wrapper installed?04:09
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cpk1WiglyWorm: extract it to a foldeer04:12
cpk1folder even04:12
cpk1i'm downloading it too so i can see what you are looking at04:13
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angasule!games04:13
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org04:13
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AdamF2Morning all :)  Is there a logical reason apt-index-watch is consuming large chunks of CPU-time every 3 or 4 seconds? It's the first time I've had the 'problem'.04:16
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esaymanybody know a good how to to get ssl running on my a couple of pages of my apache server?04:20
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underdog5004esaym, www.howtoforge.com is good for that.04:24
esaymlol thanks04:25
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angasuleweeeee, I got surround sound to work with OpenAL!04:26
AdamF2Anyone with any ideas about apt-index-watch ? :)04:26
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cpk1digital surround worked for me out of the box04:27
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DaSkreechcntb: stop doing that please04:27
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ixian__is there synaptic package manager in kubuntu?04:31
ForgeAustry adept04:32
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ForgeAusyou can use synaptic if you want adept is good04:32
ubuntualguien habla espa;ol_04:32
stuarthow do I find and kill an "unknown service"?04:32
underdog5004!es04:33
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:33
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stuartcan someone help me with bittorrent problem04:36
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DaSkreechstuart: ask!04:38
DaSkreech!ayone04:38
DaSkreech!anyone04:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ayone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:38
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:38
DaSkreechixian__: press alt+space -> type ade -> press enter04:39
stuartDasKreech, what?04:39
DaSkreechstuart: What's the problem?04:39
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stuartdaskreech, some bittorrent thingy is trying to use a port, and restarts itself everytime the machine starts (so firestarteridentifies udp as unknown service)04:40
DaSkreechright04:40
DaSkreech what do you have that's running torrents?04:41
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stuartdaskreech, the problem began when i installed and ran bittornado, but I have subsequently removed it04:41
evilhmwhahahahaha I got kubuntu to boot from DOS04:41
stuartdaskreech, then the problem recurred when i ran azureus04:41
stuartdaskreech, i just don't no how to stop this unwanted service04:41
DaSkreechWell does azureus start when the computer starts?04:42
stuartdaskreech, i also uninstalled ktorrent, so now synaptic claims nothing bittorrent related is installed04:42
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DaSkreechYou uninstalled azureues ?04:42
stuartdaskreech, i uninstalled everything i could find that was bittorrent related, figuring that the thing wouldnt be able to start again04:43
stuartdaskreech, yes via synaptic04:43
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DaSkreechWhat's Firestarter telling you?04:43
stuartdaskreech, on the events tab there is a growing list of "uknown" services using the udp protocol for a particular port04:44
DaSkreechtorrent port I assume?04:45
stuarti dont know but i assume so04:45
DaSkreechwhich port is it?04:46
stuart2929404:46
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DaSkreechhmm04:47
DaSkreechnot heard of that being used by torrent04:48
stuartdaskreech, everything tht's installed has come from official repositories or the extended repositories that "ship" with kubuntu04:48
spawn57why are there so many complaints about kde on ubuntu on slashdot? all of them are saying that it's slow and bloated on ubuntu but it's much more snappier on other distros like fedora04:48
DaSkreechok04:48
stuartdaskreech, and the problem coincided with the bittorrent client trials04:49
DaSkreechspawn57: h@t3?04:49
DaSkreechstuart: good sluething04:49
DaSkreech how did you remove the applications?04:49
spawn57DaSkreech: i've haven't noticed a difference but then again, my computer is pretty fast, 3.0GHz04:50
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DaSkreechspawn57: Bet if you asked them to back it with numbers they would choke :)04:50
spawn57DaSkreech: and i've seen things get better since dapper04:50
DaSkreechspawn57: granted ubuntu has gotten heavy in recent times04:50
stuartdaskreech: used the completely remove option by right clicking in synaptic04:50
DaSkreechMaybe they mean KDE on ubuntu instead of kubuntu04:50
DaSkreechstuart: ok that sounds right04:51
spawn57DaSkreech: some of them still say kde is slower to gnome which is bollocks.04:51
spawn57DaSkreech: is there a big difference between kde on ubuntu and kubuntu? I thought all i had to do was install ubuntu and do apt-get install kde-desktop04:51
DaSkreechspawn57: Just proves that whatever was true 6 months ago in open source is probably false :)04:51
spawn57spawn57: hehe04:52
spawn57oops, i just laughed at myself04:52
DaSkreechspawn57: I don't know I've not done any research into it but I do know that a default Ubuntu install is much heavier than it used to be04:52
spawn57DaSkreech: ah04:52
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stuartdaskreech: i asked firestarter to block activity on port04:52
spawn57=P04:52
stuartdaskreech, but how would i unblock it in future to see if problem has gone away? there doesn't seem to be a list of ports...04:53
DaSkreechstuart:  are you comfortable with the terminal /command line?04:53
stuartdaskreech i dont know many commands, but ive used it a bit04:53
shivIs there a way if I click on the date on the calendar it brings up any contact manger. I mean can it be used as a real calendar to schedule dates?04:54
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DaSkreechstuart: Ok can you type netstat | grep 29294 on the command line for me04:54
DaSkreechshiv: There is in Gnome I never thought about it in KDE04:55
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stuartdaskreech: at the $ prompt i enter that and get another $ prompt -- no errors or info displayed04:56
shivDaSkreech, is it possible in kde?04:56
DaSkreechstuart: Well doesn't seem to be an open port then04:56
stuartDaSkreech, is that since i disabled it in firestarter?04:56
DaSkreechshiv: couldn't tell you. I could pop over to #kde and ask04:56
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DaSkreechshiv: or you could as well :)04:57
DaSkreechstuart: Seems likely04:57
shivDaSkreech, ok thanks I will do that04:57
stuartDaSkreech: the thing that was trying that port -- is probably still trying and wasting resources?04:57
DaSkreechHow does firestarter block things? By apliaction?04:57
DaSkreechApplication?04:57
stuartDaSkreech: by port04:57
DaSkreechOh so you can unblock that port then?04:57
stuartDaSkreech: "disable all events on port" i think was the option04:58
stuartDaSkreech: thats what i can't workout -- it doesn't seem to give me an option to unblock04:58
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DaSkreech!firestater04:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firestater - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:58
DaSkreech!firestarter04:58
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).04:58
DaSkreech:-P04:58
DaSkreechNo cookie for you04:59
tjzsup04:59
stuartDaSkreech: also the events tab now has a "blocked ports" heading and the one i blocked is not listed -- nothing is listed04:59
DaSkreechnada04:59
DaSkreechHmm04:59
stuartDaSkreech: sorry "blocked connections" not blocked ports04:59
DaSkreechHave you asked in #ubuntu ? They might have a lot of people who use firestarter05:00
stuartDaSkreech: im going to restart and assume that the blockage is only per session -- will see if udp problem reapperars in firestarter05:00
DaSkreechok :)05:01
tjzyo anyone have any tutorials on how to use kubuntu??????????????????//05:01
stuartDaSkreech: ill talk to u in  minute05:01
DaSkreechtjz: one question mark will do05:01
DaSkreechtjz: what do you want to do?05:01
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tjzany and everything05:01
DaSkreechok05:02
tjzi would greatly appreciate a list  of commands or pretty damn much anything05:02
DaSkreechwhats number 8 on that list?05:02
DaSkreech!commands05:02
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands05:02
DaSkreechYou may also want to have a chat in private with the robot05:03
DaSkreech!help05:03
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:03
tjzok thanks05:03
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DaSkreechSure if you have a more specific problem please ask in here again05:04
tjzok05:05
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DaSkreechhello05:06
tjzok another question do u know of any really good hacking software to use on kubuntu05:06
tjz?05:06
DaSkreechYou would probably have to define hacking05:06
jumpkickanyone know how to do SSH key exchanges well?05:06
jumpkickI need some help applying some instructions to a chroot05:06
DaSkreech but if you mean coding then try kdevelop and read about build essentials05:06
DaSkreech!b-e05:06
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:06
tjzok05:07
tjzwhere would i find dat?05:07
DaSkreechKdevelop?05:07
tjzyea05:07
DaSkreechAlt+space -> type ade -> press enter05:08
tjzthis system is very new 2 me i got it like yesterday05:08
DaSkreechAre you new to LInux?05:08
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tjzwell i have had some experience with puppy and seamonkey05:09
DaSkreechPuppy linux?05:09
tjzbut usally just live disk stuff05:09
tjzyea05:09
tjzand dsl05:09
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DaSkreechOh alright :) Well Welcome to Kubuntu :)05:09
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tjzlol kool05:09
carloshello05:10
DaSkreechHas adept opened yet?05:10
DaSkreech Hello05:10
DaSkreechhow you doing stuart ?05:10
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DaSkreechtjz: It should ask you for a password if all goes well05:10
tjz?05:10
tjzok05:11
stuartDaSkreech: firestarter not registering any problems, but nor is it telling me i blocked that port either05:11
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stuartDaSkreech: what was that command you got me to try again05:11
DaSkreechnetstat | grep 2929405:12
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DaSkreechtjz: alt+space opens katapult05:12
tjzyea05:12
tjzand then05:12
stuartDaSkreech: ok, same result05:13
stuartDaSkreech: does that mean i should not worry about it?05:13
DaSkreechtjz: Type ade then press enter05:13
tjzok05:13
tjzone sec05:13
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tjzoki got adept manager05:14
DaSkreechstuart: well I'm not sure what to tell you. If you are worrying about wasting resoources I don't know what was doing that in the first place and I don't know enough about firestarter to get information from it05:14
DaSkreechtjz: in the little search bar type the name of the application you are looking for In this case kdevelop05:14
stuartDaSkreech: ok, well thanks a lot for your help - will try and work out the firestarter thing05:15
DaSkreechstuart: If you would like a better chance of some help you could ask in #ubuntu for someone to help you with a blocked port in firestarter05:15
stuartDaSkreech: k, will do, thanks again05:15
tjzi got nothin05:15
tjzi got nothin really on that screen05:16
DaSkreechstuart: You could use pastebin and sort of write out what the situation is. That would prevent you from explaining it over again to multiple people05:16
DaSkreechit comes back blank tjz ?05:16
tjzyea05:17
DaSkreech!kdevelop05:17
ubotukdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB05:17
stuartDaSkreech: what's pastebin?05:17
DaSkreech!paste | stuart05:17
ubotustuart: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:17
tjzKdevelop comes back blank05:17
DaSkreechtjz: Ah ok :) try adept -> manage repositories05:17
DaSkreechThe adept menu at top left05:17
tjzjust manage repositories05:18
tjzok now what05:18
DaSkreechYes you should get a new view with lines05:18
tjzyea but everything is ummm nit highlighted05:19
tjznot*05:19
DaSkreechok scroll down till you see a line that looks like deb http://jm.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe05:19
DaSkreechRight click it and choose enable05:19
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istill316hello05:20
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DaSkreechHello05:20
DaSkreechHi nikkiana05:20
DaSkreechtjz: Done that?05:21
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tjzi got http05:22
DaSkreechSorry?05:22
tjz;//us05:22
tjznut not jm05:22
DaSkreechAh yes thats fine05:22
DaSkreechIt's country specific05:22
tjzok which one there are alot of them05:23
DaSkreechthe one that looks like deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe05:23
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DaSkreechAssuming you are using edgy :)05:23
tjzwould dapperuniverse be tha soome05:24
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tjzsame?05:24
DaSkreechOk you are using dapper :005:24
DaSkreech ;-)05:24
DaSkreechYes it would be05:24
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tjzok05:25
DaSkreechright click that line and select enable05:25
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qwmoh my.05:25
DaSkreechoh yours!05:25
qwmindeed.05:25
tjzok done05:25
qwmsurprised to see that many in here. :D05:25
DaSkreechtjz: if you double click on the word universe you should be able to edit05:25
DaSkreechit05:25
DaSkreechqwm: You should see #ubuntu !05:26
qwmheh05:26
qwmhaven't seen it.05:26
qwmdon't think i dare.05:26
DaSkreechtjz: put a space after the word universe and then type multiverse05:26
qwmso, which buntu should i encourage my younger (now windows using) brother to use?05:26
DaSkreechtjz: when you finish the line should look like deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse05:27
DaSkreechqwm: Which ever he feels comfortable with05:27
DaSkreechfailing that whichever you feel comfortable with since you will probably be fixing most of the problems :)05:27
qwmi'd be the one installing them, and i'm too lazy to do it more than once.05:27
tjzok got it05:27
qwmheh05:27
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qwmyeah.05:27
qwmi want as few problems as possible. :P05:28
DaSkreechqwm: You only need to do it once they can convert from one to the other05:28
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qwmooh.05:28
DaSkreechtjz: Excellent click appy05:28
qwmthat's true.05:28
qwmdidn't think of it.05:28
DaSkreechApply then click close05:28
noelGreetings everyone.05:28
qwmbut kde is richer in features than gnome right?05:28
ForgeAussalutations noel :)05:28
tjzok05:28
DaSkreechtjz: Look at the bottom of the adept window it should give you a number of packages available05:28
DaSkreechtjz: how many does it say?05:29
DaSkreechnoel: Hello05:29
ForgeAusgwm... yes/no depends on how you look at it and what particular apps your using05:29
DaSkreechqwm: depends05:29
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tjzwait where05:29
DaSkreechForgeAus: q as in qt not g as in gtk :)05:29
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vrkhanshi05:29
DaSkreechtjz: very bottom in small writing :)05:29
tjzadept manager window?05:29
ForgeAusqt is one thing kde is built on05:30
DaSkreechtjz: Yes05:30
vrkhansI tried to install Kubuntu on my system05:30
vrkhansbut fails05:30
DaSkreechForgeAus: Yes but you said gwm instead of qwm05:30
qwmDaSkreech: heh.. what about the visual stuff.05:30
ForgeAusI think ubuntu has qt and kubuntu has gtk so they're basically compatible05:30
stuartDaSkreech: didn't get a response on ubuntu channel to:  question about firestarter: why does a port i blocked not show up in the list of blocked connections (therefore I can't unblock it)05:30
vrkhansIt just takes for ever to load from the live cd05:30
tjzoh upgrades 937 avilable and installed05:30
ForgeAusI didn't say any wm05:30
DaSkreechqwm: it certainly has more options I'm not sure about features05:30
vrkhansand then system error05:30
ForgeAusI didn't even know there was a qwm!05:30
tjzok05:31
qwmhaha.05:31
DaSkreech<ForgeAus> gwm... yes/no depends on how you look at it and what particular apps your using05:31
qwmooh05:31
noelHelp Please. I am trying to run timidity. Here is the output.05:31
ForgeAuskwin is kde's wm afaik05:31
qwmthat's a common mistake people make. :P05:31
DaSkreechstuart: Don't worry about it for now05:31
DaSkreechstuart: ask again next week :)05:31
vrkhansdoes not able to luanch the install icon05:31
noelTiMidity starting in ALSA server mode05:31
ForgeAusoh that was a typo sorry05:31
ForgeAus(text is too small in this font)05:31
vrkhansI dont know what to do05:31
ForgeAusmy apologies)05:32
DaSkreechvrkhans: can the CD boot in another machine?05:32
stuartDaSkreech: i fiddled with firestarter and under edit prefverences the port and Ip address were checked as being "don't log events for this"05:32
noelALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory05:32
noelerror in snd_seq_open05:32
DaSkreechtjz: ok now press fetch updates05:32
vrkhansdoes there any other way to install the linux without the that GUI05:32
stuartDaskreech: i turned that off and no new events have appeared...but who knows...05:32
qwmDaSkreech: what about stability.. kde compared to gnome?05:32
dennister    /who freenode/staff/*05:32
stuartDaskreech: In any case, it's probably not a security issue right?05:32
DaSkreechstuart: It sounds to me that what ever was causing that is gone. However I can't say that for sure ... so I wont05:33
tjzok about how long do u think this will take?05:33
stuartDaskreech: hee hee05:33
DaSkreechqwm: Both crash roughly with the same frequency of how badly you trat them05:33
DaSkreechstuart: not with the Ubuntu repos05:33
tjzok shit  nevermind now it says 15356 available05:33
DaSkreech!language05:34
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:34
tjzbut none installed05:34
qwmDaSkreech: heh.. gosh.05:34
DaSkreechtjz: yup Lots of stuff now :)05:34
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DaSkreechnow try kdevelop05:34
tjzfetch again05:34
tjzoh ok05:34
okebonnehola05:34
stuartDaskreech: 1 last question -- suse and fedora seem snappier to load office and just in general launching programs compared with ubuntu/kubuntu ... discuss05:34
DaSkreechtjz: Just type kdevelop in the search05:34
ForgeAusahh good old kdevelop :) awesome software05:34
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okebonnewhats the bleep !05:35
ForgeAuseek suse!05:35
ForgeAusYAST is HELL!05:35
tjzok none are installed05:35
stuartDaskreech: on a p4 system 1gb ram suse seems a LOT faster05:35
DaSkreechstuart: Maybe you can turn off processes you are not using?05:35
stuartDaskreech: how do i no what i am and aren't using05:35
DaSkreechstuart: Also Ubuntu uses a lot of new packages. Maybe they just need some memory profiling? :)05:36
ForgeAusif you want an rpm distro go Mandriva05:36
ForgeAusor perhaps Ark Linux05:36
MinatakuIt could also be in how the kernel is configured05:36
DaSkreechtjz: Right click and select install05:36
stuartDaskreech: so how does the average user improve system response05:36
DaSkreechMinataku: Hmm good point05:36
tjzon all of them?05:36
MinatakuSuSE may use more options that have performance increases while *buntu takes a more conservative path05:36
stuartDaskreech: oh that port problem has returned but is less frequent lol05:37
stuartok Minataku05:37
DaSkreechtjz: just the top one05:37
MinatakuThen there's someone like me who does it all by hand ( I like configuring kernels, it's fun )05:37
DaSkreechstuart: I guess that's a consequence of shipping with a 386 kernel intended to be used for a server05:37
ForgeAus*buntu is conservative! wierd05:37
DaSkreechtjz: When you click on Preview changes you should see a list05:38
stuartDaskreech: but i installed the 686 one from base and didn't really notice a difference05:38
DaSkreechForgeAus: For the kernel it is. The same kernel is used for Desktop and server05:38
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tjzok    what about kdevelop break(install)05:39
vrkhanshi05:39
vrkhansya05:39
vrkhansI tried many times but fails05:39
vrkhansdont know what to do05:39
stuartDaskreech: just wondered if other users felt that was generally true05:39
vrkhanssame thing happen every time05:39
DaSkreechtjz: Woah :)05:40
tjzwut?05:40
DaSkreechvrkhans: Sounds like you have a bad Cd05:40
DaSkreechbreakage on day one :)05:40
vrkhansno i tried two different cds05:40
vrkhanssame thing05:40
vrkhansifirst of all it takes forever to load05:41
tjzkoolness05:41
DaSkreechstuart: I don't know that it's a general feeling that *buntu is slower. But Depending on your needs/likes/time constraints it can always be taken care of05:41
qwmDaSkreech: another thing.. my brother's cpu is an x86-64.. if i install x86-64 ubuntu, he'll still be able to play doom3 and quake4 right?05:41
vrkhansand then after you hit on the install icon either it doesnt load or give you system crash error05:41
DaSkreechtjz: how many packages does it says it's going to install?05:41
stuartDaskreech: I'm sure it can, but i'd need to be a lot more knowledgeable to do so05:42
DaSkreechqwm: May need a chroot05:42
DaSkreechqwm: Short answer is yes05:42
stuartDaskreech: you have good multitasking skills btw05:42
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DaSkreechstuart: quite likely not. Profiling is a common mental illness in the Linux world :)05:42
vrkhansI am really tired now05:42
qwmhm. :)05:42
DaSkreechvrkhans: Take a break05:42
tjz4 i guess05:43
DaSkreech Do you need it installed tonight?05:43
qwmreally need to give him a good impression.. heh05:43
DaSkreechAnd which says break tjz?05:43
noelHelp. Are there any ALSA guru's out there?05:43
DaSkreechstuart: Thanks05:43
vrkhansI wish05:43
mhm<stuart> Daskreech: you have good multitasking skills btw05:43
mhmhah I was thinking the same05:43
Minatakuvrkhans: Perhaps you have a bad drive?05:43
stuartDaskreech: yw -- thanks for your attention and help -- bye for now05:43
vrkhansmy system already have windows running is there any problem with that05:44
MinatakuI have a computer with a CD-R drive that burns coasters that only it can read05:44
DaSkreechstuart: Performance tweaks is so common in the linux world there are many tools to track down the points of slow down05:44
DaSkreechstuart: Gbye :)05:44
DaSkreechvrkhans: No there isnt05:44
tjzkdevelop3  an idefor unix -development version05:44
Minataku*buntu probably compiles without optimizations05:44
DaSkreechMinataku: I'm not sure about that :) but lets not speculate05:45
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DaSkreechHmm05:45
MinatakuDaSkreech: Well, when stability is of the utmost, compiler optimizations are typically avoided05:45
DaSkreechtjz: ok lets back up and start over05:45
tjz...k05:45
DaSkreech Select everything in the list and right clik -> cancel changes05:45
DaSkreechhi hybrid05:46
tjzok] 05:46
tjzdone05:46
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DaSkreechtjz: Are you still in preview changes?05:46
tjzyes05:46
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vrkhansno solution for me05:47
tjzoh um can u email the instructions to gothdude999666@hotmail.com because i have 2 go05:47
DaSkreechtjz: Ok05:47
DaSkreechWait05:47
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DaSkreechclick on preview changes05:47
andrew_i want to know how to play starcraft on kubuntu05:48
tjzok05:48
DaSkreechright click on kdevelop not kdevelop3 and choose install05:48
tjzi did05:48
DaSkreechchekc preview to see if it breaks05:48
DaSkreechandrew_: Wine05:48
DaSkreech!wine | andrew_05:48
ubotuandrew_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:48
tjzthere is no kdevelop on tha list05:49
DaSkreechtjz: does it break?05:49
andrew_thanks05:49
DaSkreechtjz: realllllllly? :)05:49
tjzyep05:49
DaSkreechYou have 3 choices?05:49
tjzk05:49
DaSkreechkdevelop3 -data and -doc ?05:49
tjzok05:50
DaSkreechthats what is in your list?05:50
hybridhello DaSkreech05:50
DaSkreechOr you have more?05:50
tjzyea and dev and plugins05:50
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andrew_wine does not work with starcraft05:50
DaSkreechandrew_: Other way around05:51
DaSkreechtjz: Hmm .... I guess I'd have to find out why it breaks05:51
tjz...k05:51
DaSkreechtjz: pop in tomorrow and we'll get you some help05:51
tjzok c ya05:51
tjzthanks05:51
DaSkreechtjz: In the mean time type build-essential in the search05:51
DaSkreechinstall that :)05:51
DaSkreechand see you05:51
andrew_does anyone know how to install starcraft without WINE05:52
Dr_willisandrew_,  how are you planning on running it then?05:53
andrew_I do not know05:53
Dr_willisnether do i...05:53
DaSkreechandrew_: There is a project trying to get to that point names Wargus05:53
Dr_willis:)05:53
andrew_thanks05:53
Dr_williswine/cedega - works for most people.05:54
noelDaSkreech: what is the password for su?05:54
Dr_williswhen it works. :)05:54
DaSkreechI don't think that you have that type of patience though05:54
istill316hmm.......05:54
DaSkreechnoel: What did you type?05:54
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noeltried noel, then tried root05:54
DaSkreechandrew_: Did you read the page Ubotu sent to you btw ?05:54
DaSkreech!root | noel05:54
ubotunoel: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:54
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ForgeAusif your going to mention cedega in there you might as well add cxoffice too05:55
istill316:\ all the videos I play appear washed-out....05:55
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ForgeAuswell I've pretty much chock-filled my kubuntu05:55
ForgeAuslittle space to work with now!05:55
DaSkreechistill316: use less bleach in the detergent05:55
istill316lol05:55
Dr_willisHmm... they are advertising these strap on skates for your shoes.. 2 wheels below the heels...05:56
noelDaSkreech: all I want to do is "MKDIR" and the permission is denied!05:56
DaSkreechnoel: Where?05:56
DaSkreechdr-Wheelies05:56
Dr_willisRedrunner.com05:56
DaSkreechDr_willis: heelies05:56
Dr_willis$40  - not the same as the heelies with the built in wheel.05:57
DaSkreechnoel: Where are you making the directory?05:57
Dr_willisthese strap on. :)05:57
Dr_willisNOW the question is.. why dident Mythtv zap this comercial. :)05:57
noelDaSkreech: /usr/scr$05:57
MinatakuHeya, Dr_willis05:57
DaSkreechnoel:  sudo mkdir /usr/scr/$05:57
Dr_williswonder if they will fit a size 12 shoe. :)05:57
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MinatakuXD05:58
Dr_willisHello Minataku05:58
MinatakuWhat's up?05:58
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Dr_willis:)05:58
Minatakulol05:58
MinatakuI'd almost pay money to see that05:58
Minataku... Almost05:58
MinatakuXD05:58
andrew_Dr willis: it will not work05:59
Dr_willisHeck - as a kid we had a toy.. it was basicially a board with a single wooden wheel in the middle.. like a tetertotter..05:59
noelDaSkreech:and the password?05:59
Dr_willisTHAT broke several arms...05:59
Dr_willis:)05:59
DaSkreechnoel: Yours05:59
Minatakulol05:59
noelDaScreech: thanks05:59
DaSkreechSure05:59
MinatakuDr_willis: Of course back then nobody really cared06:00
andrew_Dr willis: what do i do06:00
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MinatakuYou went to the hospital, got a cast and that was it06:00
Minataku6-8 weeks later you got the cast off and went right back to playing with it06:00
Dr_willisYep.. back when YardDarts were toys!06:00
night-shadowSweiki gywi naktibaldos [=06:00
DaSkreechandrew_: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=7206:01
MinatakuAnyone know what language that is or should I just start typing all the ! triggers?06:01
MinatakuXD06:01
DaSkreechnight-shadow: Which language?06:01
night-shadowLithuania[=06:01
DaSkreechMinataku: I was trying to read it backwards :)06:01
Dr_willisLithuania has a language?06:01
andrew_i have allready tried it06:01
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Minatakulol06:01
NoobyHey Everyone..06:02
istill316hi06:02
Noobyanyone can help me with installing Mp3 codecs?06:02
MinatakuI'd assume Lithuanian or something like that06:02
Noobyloving the new Ubuntu.06:02
DaSkreechEveryone isn't here right now would you like to leave a message?06:02
Minataku!mp306:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:02
DaSkreech!mp3 | Nooby06:02
ubotuNooby: please see above06:02
Dr_willisNooby,  the kubuntu faq mentions the packages..06:02
Minatakulol06:02
DaSkreechHAHAHAHAHA06:02
Noobylol06:02
DaSkreech!botsnack06:02
ubotuYum!06:02
creodor_hey all06:02
istill316lol06:02
MinatakuYeah, they tweaked it so that it won't replay the message06:02
Noobycreodor, all is not here, leave a msg :P06:02
DaSkreech!lls06:03
MinatakuWhich is just asking for trouble06:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
creodor_haha, only if i must06:03
Noobyu know, I thank the creators of Ubuntu for making it free :)06:03
DaSkreech!lt06:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:03
DaSkreechBlast06:03
DaSkreechnight-shadow: Any other languages?06:03
creodor_just have a quick question. managed to lock up my the adept pkg mngr and was wondering if anyone knew the command to unlock it06:03
DaSkreech!adept crash fix | creodor_06:04
ubotucreodor_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:04
night-shadowenglish may be [=06:04
DaSkreechnight-shadow: great :) that would be en06:05
DaSkreech!en06:05
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat06:05
istill316anybody have any idea how I might fix my washed-out video playing?06:05
DaSkreechnight-shadow: Welcome How can we help?06:05
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night-shadowi don't mind telling you that  i am first time to using kubuntu [= and i just want to know, where i must download some programs to playing a mp3, avi, wma,06:09
DaSkreechD00d!06:09
Minataku!mp3 | night-shadow06:10
ubotunight-shadow: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:10
DaSkreechnight-shadow: Do you mind me giving you an english page to read?06:10
DaSkreechOr Minataku :-P06:10
Minatakulol06:10
MinatakuSorry, but there is not too much in Lithuanian06:10
DaSkreechnight-shadow: That first link should help06:10
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MinatakuIt is not a language we have come across very much06:10
night-shadowthank you [=06:11
MinatakuNo problem06:11
DaSkreechMinataku: I know the other alternative was to help by a walkthrough06:11
DaSkreechnight-shadow: Are there a lot of people in Lithuania that use linux?06:11
MinatakuDaSkreech: I know, but thankfully he seems to have a pretty good grasp on English06:11
DaSkreechYeah I know. Just didn't want to assume06:11
DaSkreechPlus I'm fading but Jucato D00d is here so I'll be leaving06:12
Minataku:8r06:12
Minataku*L8r06:12
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night-shadow30  - 40 %06:15
night-shadow[=06:15
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DaSkreechMinataku: Maybe we should have a #kubuntu-lt06:18
Jucatolt?06:19
MinatakuDaSkreech: If only we knew some Lithuanians06:19
Minatakulol06:19
MinatakuSo far, I know... 106:19
Minataku>.>06:20
night-shadowwhere are U from?\06:21
DaSkreechnight-shadow: Get your friends to login here as well :)06:21
night-shadowall them?06:21
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DaSkreechWe may be able to get a Lithuanian channel06:21
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night-shadowbut most of them are using windows06:22
night-shadow] =06:22
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DaSkreechnight-shadow: Format their computers Muwahahahaha!06:23
DaSkreechsorry about that06:23
=== bur[n] er is annoyed by konq and it's samba integration... is there anything I can do?
DaSkreechThat was .. um .. my sister yeah06:23
night-shadow=D06:23
noelDaSkreech: I am starting up ROSEGARDEN and this is the message."Sequencer startup failed: MIDI subsystem has failed to initialise" Suggestions please?06:24
night-shadowok, see you later, hawe a nice day [=06:24
DaSkreech!midi06:24
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo06:24
DaSkreechnight-shadow: By06:24
DaSkreech+e06:24
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noelDaSkreech: how do I change the midi device form /dev0 to /dev1? I had to do this to get sound.06:29
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underdog5004how do I uninstall the kubuntu-desktop package? I know it's just a meta package, so I want to uninstall everything kde related.06:36
cpk1underdog5004: aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop06:36
underdog5004sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop will only free up 41.0 Kb, while the install was like 400 Megs.06:37
cpk1i dont know if it accepts wildcards but if you wanted to completely nuke kde then you could try aptitude purge *kde* but that is not for the faint of heart06:37
Jucatounderdog5004: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome06:37
underdog5004tyvm, Jucato06:38
Jucatoywvm06:39
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cpk1Jucato: that your site?06:39
DaSkreechYour window-manager may vary?06:39
Jucatonope06:39
ririfeisty is here ?06:40
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ririHello06:40
ForgeAusin alpha yeah06:40
Jucato!feisty | riri06:40
uboturiri: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+106:40
ForgeAusfeisty herd... when its out of alpha it becomes feisty fawn06:40
Jucatoer?06:40
Jucatoit's Feisty Fawn Herd #06:40
ririi have problems with vmware-player06:40
DaSkreechHe could just remove kdelib4c2a and it would blow away all of KDE06:41
ririthere is broken packet06:41
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ririthe most problem I can't remove it from adept now ?06:41
bhrich902kubuntuhello, whats the package that enables video file previews in konqueror? (view->preview)06:42
JucatoForgeAus: it's "Feisty Fawn" all throughout. a group of fawns is called a "herd". they usually codename the alpha releases that way06:42
ririhow can I clean it out from adept ?06:42
ForgeAusoh so ppl calling it Feisty Herd  # are just being lazy like saying edgy instead of edgy eft?06:42
Jucatobhrich902kubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 look for the part about video previewing in kubuntu06:43
JucatoForgeAus: yep06:43
Jucatowell, that's afaik06:43
Jucatoas far as naming conventions go06:43
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bhrich902kubuntunothing there, but do u know what im talking about tho?06:45
bur[n] erriri: using feisty?06:45
ririyes06:45
ForgeAusJucato does sudo dpkg --configure -a work for broken packages?06:45
ririv 406:45
ririupgrade from edgy fine this time06:46
bur[n] erriri: I think it's a known issue... they just issued a patch for the vmware kernel modules, and I can only assume vmware-player itself is next06:46
ririok06:46
riribut i had the same in edgy ?06:46
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bur[n] erriri: the same "what" in edgy?06:47
ririis there a way to get rid of it in apt ?06:47
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bur[n] errid of "what" in apt?06:47
ririsame problem in vmaware player install06:47
ririof vmware player06:47
bur[n] ervmware player worked for me in edgy :)06:47
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ririthough isn't well install06:47
bur[n] erin fact, I even used vmware server in edgy06:47
bur[n] ersudo apt-get remove vmware-player06:48
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ririE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:48
istill316what's this error about:06:48
istill316Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN4> line 9.06:48
ririthat what i get06:48
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bur[n] erriri: when you try to remove it?06:48
ririyes06:48
ririi got this first :FATAL: Could not open '/boot/System.map-player': No such file or directory06:49
bur[n] erapt-get update?06:49
TubaSoldierwhere would i find the location of the picture on the shutdown dialog?06:49
ririthe same : update works06:49
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ririupdate doesn't tell me any problem06:50
riribut apt remove does06:50
jarnWhere does konqueror cache?06:50
ririis there a manual way to remove it ?06:51
DaSkreechTubaSoldier: good question06:51
ririin fact can't remove "vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-8 ..."06:52
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DaSkreechTubaSoldier: $KDEDIR/share/apps/ksmserver/pics/06:53
TubaSoldierI just think konq is kind of ugly.06:53
TubaSoldierah. thanks.06:53
DaSkreechWhere $KDEDIR is currently null :)06:53
riribur ner : how did you remove it ?06:53
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ririremove vmware06:53
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bur[n] erriri: sudo apt-get remove vmware-player06:55
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bur[n] erriri: you can try "sudo dpkg -remove vmware-player"06:55
ririyes that doesn't work for me06:55
ririok06:55
=== bur[n] er shrugs... sucky
bur[n] erI'm sure a fix will show up in feisty eventually... you file a launchpad.net bug?06:56
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ririburner : funny thing dpkg tells me I can't remove vmware-player because it's not installed !06:58
ririis there a -f flag in dpkg ?06:58
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ririno... otherwise i would ask the question06:59
bur[n] ermanpages!07:00
bur[n] errun "man dpkg" from a term07:00
ririindigest07:00
bur[n] errun "man yourcommandhere" for info about anything07:00
riridpkg --help tells me "--force-07:01
DaSkreechor man:/07:01
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ririwhere are the packets of vmware-player in apt ?07:04
ForgeAus~vmware07:04
ForgeAus!vmware07:04
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware07:04
ririyes i read it before thanks07:04
Thehound666what is the difference between player and other VMWare?07:05
riribut my command exactly like describe doesn't work with me07:05
ForgeAusVMware has several types07:05
ForgeAusplayer, server, workstation mostly07:05
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Thehound666tried server and workstation07:05
ForgeAusplayer is simply able to load vmx/vmdk files07:05
Thehound666server had no sound07:05
ForgeAusvmware server has a console that allows you do do things with them07:06
ForgeAusworkstation I know little about07:06
ririi usually used vmware-workstation07:06
Thehound666workstation is nice07:06
ForgeAusserver is nice for me thats what I use...07:06
riribut bvmplayer mess my edgy and feisty now !!!07:06
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Thehound666can you get sound on most guest OS?07:07
ririi don't want to reinstall all only for it07:07
ForgeAusI personally stay away from player07:07
Thehound666my xp guest had no sound07:07
Thehound666on server07:07
ForgeAusthehound666 I'm not sure I h ave sound in my kubuntu host  let alone a virtual machine07:07
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ForgeAuson server yoou theorietically have sound if you add the sound hardware component07:07
bur[n] eryou can have sound on the player too07:08
ririadd vmware tools07:08
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bur[n] eri use winamp via xp for kicks... and my cell phone syncs in my xp guest07:08
ForgeAusbur probably yeah07:08
Thehound666I should try player instead of getting another workstation license07:08
bur[n] erand since I created my virtual machine in server originally... i have vmware tools installed and mouse movement is fine in player too :)07:08
Thehound666software not cheap07:08
bur[n] erThehound666: vmware server is free07:09
ForgeAusyou could use server its free07:09
ForgeAus(requires registration but is still free)07:09
ririvmware-station 30 days07:09
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ForgeAusits a little over a 100mb download07:09
ririand after they give you others licences07:09
ForgeAusvbox is kewl07:09
ririso i think it's the best07:09
ForgeAusit does xp/vista07:09
ForgeAusbut has trouble with BSD right now07:09
ForgeAusand doesn't do Darwin/MacOSX07:09
Thehound666I liked server except sound. It works fine for when you don't need sound07:10
bur[n] erdoes vbox do feisty?07:10
Thehound666and yes my Kubuntu host on that machine had sound07:10
ForgeAusI think so07:10
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bur[n] erusually I run ubuntu+1 via virtual machine... though I took the plunge with feisty already :)07:10
bur[n] erThehound666: sound worked for me... i think your config was messed up07:10
Thehound666I run in VMWare on my main machine as Kubuntu goes. My only option07:11
ForgeAusI'm waiting for the first non-herd release07:11
Thehound666ATI shanked me07:11
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ForgeAusyeah ATI and Linux can be problematic07:11
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ForgeAusI still havn't got Beryl working07:11
bur[n] erForgeAus: kdm doesn't auto start for me... and vmware-player is a problem, but other than that, feisty is pretty sweet :)07:11
bur[n] erberyl is cake :)07:11
Thehound666I haven't got fglrx working, following the Ubuntu guide step by step07:11
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ForgeAusI have the same kdm issue lately07:12
bur[n] erForgeAus: using ati or nvidia or intel?07:12
ForgeAusati and intel07:12
bur[n] erintel should be almost automatic07:12
ForgeAus(not intel gfx intel processor)07:12
bur[n] eroh07:12
Thehound666if anyone knows of a mistake in the guide, I'd be happy to hear a correction07:12
bur[n] ermy ati mobility radeon 7500 works when I don't use widescreen resolution with beryl07:13
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=== bur[n] er has an nvidia card in his desktop and has no idea about fglrx though
Thehound666I downloaded latest from ATI and followed the guide for downloaded from ATI07:13
ForgeAusmine is an ATI radeon 9600 All in wonder (desktop machine)07:13
bur[n] erThehound666: did you try just hte .deb packages?07:14
Thehound666my card is too new07:14
Thehound666the open driver has same issues07:14
bur[n] erand you bought an ati?07:14
bur[n] erwtf07:14
Thehound666I was using Windows then07:14
ForgeAusThehound666 it should at least be partially supported tho isn't it?07:14
Thehound666and it's great under Windows07:14
bur[n] ercan anything really be "great" when under windows? ;)07:15
Thehound666well the Kubuntu loading screen gets to full bar07:15
ForgeAusyou might not get full 3D acceleration but it at least gives you a standard desktop functionality tho doesn't it?07:15
Thehound666then it scrambles and locks07:15
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Thehound666like xserver doesn't want to start07:15
ForgeAusouch! I hate it when that happens07:15
bur[n] eroh damn... major problems... no vesa driver even?07:15
Thehound666vesa works but only 1024x768@60 hz07:15
Thehound66660 hz gives me a headache07:15
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ForgeAusargh no wonder fsck wasn't a problem my fstab is empty again!07:16
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Thehound666I could live if vesa would let me change refresh rates07:16
Thehound666or resolution07:16
bur[n] erbug ati07:16
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Thehound666I already did07:17
Thehound666in the driver feedback07:17
Thehound666a few nasty comments07:17
bur[n] erlol07:17
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bur[n] erwell good :)  and remember Nvidia on your next purchase... I hope you get the ati working though... have a good night!07:17
Thehound666only way to get Desktop back after install is recovery mode and replacing xorg.conf07:17
DaSkreechGood night07:18
Thehound666nn07:18
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andrew_does any one know how to install starcraft without WINE07:18
Thehound666is there any service that would service Kubuntu if I called them?07:19
Thehound666like take it in, have them deal with it07:19
cpk1andrew_: use cedega07:19
ForgeAuscedega is bascially wine + extras anyway isn't it?07:19
Thehound666more refined but closed source07:20
ForgeAusandrew whats wrong with wine?...07:20
cpk1yes, i was pointing out that you need either an emulator or wine-like app to run windows apps07:20
adydasstarcraft, hardout07:20
ForgeAuscxoffice is similar07:20
ForgeAusI think there is a freecraft but thats mostly warcraft-based I think07:20
andrew_ForgeAus:it does not work07:20
ForgeAusI think starcraft works under wine07:21
cpk1it does07:21
Thehound666if someone gets FFXI to work, they have my loyalty07:21
ForgeAusnot usre if you need to tweak to make it work properly tho07:21
Thehound666so c'mon wine, cedega07:21
andrew_i have tried it twice now07:21
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ForgeAustry checking out winehq.com they might have tips/help to get it working07:21
andrew_it did not tell me anything07:22
Thehound666hasn't been updated in forever, says garbage07:22
ForgeAusoh as for battle.net it could be another story...I don't know anything about that side of it07:22
andrew_i do not want to use battle.net07:22
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Thehound666network mostly works under Linux if everything else is fine, unless a windows encryption .dll is required07:23
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Thehound666aka http-tunnel ping fu07:24
andrew_hybrid: do you know to install starcraft without WINE07:24
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Thehound666WINE is fine, why hate on it lol07:24
Thehound666:P07:24
ForgeAusum does ipx work under linux?07:24
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Thehound666pet peeve: Windows self extracting archives07:25
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Thehound666I know a few apps that work under wine if you extract them in windows first07:25
adydasis there any program that tests a vid cards FPS etc under linux07:26
ForgeAuslol07:26
ForgeAushmm how about amikit?07:26
andrew_i have starcraft installed in WINE but it will not work07:26
ForgeAusandrew it SHOULD so either theres something you need to tweak to get it working or theres something wrong with your system somewhere..07:27
cpk1andrew_: what didnt work with wine?07:27
ForgeAusbecause all the information I've seen indicates that Starcraft DOES work under wine07:27
andrew_it will install the game then it wont recognise the cd07:28
Thehound666does FFXI work under cedega these days? WINE seems hopeless07:28
Thehound666it installs07:28
Thehound666that's it07:28
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reldruhhello. I'm trying to get file transfers working with kopete over the aim protocol, but the option is always grayed out. Is there an easy fix for this?07:29
Thehound666my results seem to match winehq07:29
Thehound666despite the lack of update07:29
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Thehound666not sure, most my friends are on msn07:30
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cpk1reldruh: dont think it works07:30
andrew_Thehound666: yes starcraft will install but thats about it07:30
Thehound666oh I mean FFXI07:30
Thehound666Final Fantasy XI Online07:30
cpk1reldruh: i just switch to gaim when i need to transfer something07:30
Thehound666but cedega might help you, then again lemme see starcraft problems07:31
andrew_Thehound666:starcraft will install but thats about it07:31
reldruhcpk1: that's frustrating. The option has been there since dapper, always grayed out. Why would it be kept in if it was broken?07:31
adydasdoes cedega cost?07:31
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andrew_cedega will cos07:32
andrew_cedega will cost07:32
andrew_sorry07:32
adydasThere goes my next thing to play with07:32
cpk1reldruh: i think its the same menu for other protocols is why07:32
reldruhcpk1: are there protocols it works under?07:32
cpk1reldruh: msn i think07:33
andrew_adydas:it will depend what site u go on07:33
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adydaswhere can i get it from thats free07:33
ForgeAuscedega isn't intended to be free thats true07:33
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ForgeAussame with cxoffice07:33
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ForgeAusboth wine derivatives (with extras)07:33
ririHi :)07:33
cpk1andrew_: are you using broodwars or no?07:33
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ririapparently update has been done and vmware-player is working now07:34
ririon feisty07:34
Thehound666CD Drive issue andrew_?07:34
ririthanks all and happy day :)07:35
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Thehound666says insert CD when you load it07:35
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Thehound666http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5107:35
Thehound666fix here07:36
cpk1starcraft has a platinum rating on wine07:36
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ForgeAusthats weird... MSIE decided to become my default browser!07:36
Thehound666yeah for Ubuntu I notice but says silver because of Fedora07:37
ForgeAusIf this changes your the drive letter that it was installed from, you might have to run regedit, and manually update this registry key: "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\StarCD" to reflect this.07:37
ForgeAus( I think that bit might be relevant)07:37
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Thehound666lol07:37
Thehound666yeah that's why I posted the link for him07:37
Thehound666very simple issue07:37
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Thehound666how old does a gfx card have to be usually to get the open driver to support it?07:40
Thehound666that would solve my issue easily07:40
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dettoaltrimentiis ktorrent dependant on the bittorrent package?07:42
Thehound666doubt it 99%07:42
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cre8r1hello07:42
Thehound666actually 100%. I installed a .deb in a Debian distro07:43
Thehound666without it07:43
cre8r1Does anyone know how to run Cool Edit Pro 2 on Kubuntu?07:43
Thehound666that one I'll have to pass to them07:44
Thehound666I'm only good for simple things07:44
Thehound666but oh btw, rtorrent ftw07:45
Thehound666>Ktorrent07:45
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cre8r1Hello, I'm running Kubuntu on an HP NC8000 Laptop and I need to know how to install the original laptop drivers and how to run Cool Edit Pro 2 on it HELP07:50
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noelGreetings folks. How do I log in as root?08:00
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toni_hi08:03
Thehound666scp has to be one of the best features of Linux08:03
Thehound666built in secure transfer08:04
user_hey can somone help me do an installation?08:04
Thehound666how so?08:04
user_im trying to install skype from a .bed download08:04
Thehound666usually works fine by default from CD08:04
Thehound666unless grub gives you issue08:04
user_.deb i mean08:04
Thehound666ahhh08:04
Thehound666never used skype08:04
Thehound666sounded like you meant the os08:05
Thehound666lol08:05
user_lol08:05
Thehound666ah .deb is easy08:05
user_ummmm well do you know how to install things?08:05
Thehound666change directory to where the .deb is08:05
user_reall?  sweet08:05
Thehound666do sudo dpkg -i name08:05
Thehound666cd is change directory08:05
Thehound666where do you put it?08:06
user_how do i cd to desktop?08:06
Thehound666cd Desktop08:06
Thehound666since you start in home folder08:06
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Thehound666just use proper caps08:06
user_and also, i would like to install it to the folder where everything esle gets installed to, which i dunno where that is08:07
Thehound666most things default to usr/bin08:07
Thehound666it should install there most of the time08:07
Thehound666unless the writer had other ideas08:07
user_lol, aight lets see how it plays out08:08
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ubuntuhy to everyboddy08:08
Thehound666hello08:08
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bgtai'm installing Kubuntu just now08:08
bgtasomone could help me , i'm a little noob08:09
user_Thehound666:  thanks man, it worked like a charm08:09
Thehound666well just boot into the live cd08:09
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Thehound666defaults are fine for n00bs if no dual boot08:09
bgtai'm now in the cdlive :) how i see mi old files08:09
bgta?08:09
Thehound666if you want dual boot you'll have to do a custom install08:10
Thehound666and choose unused partitions08:10
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bgtaoh i have a partition un-used08:10
bgtaready for install 30 gygas, is enouhg?08:10
Thehound666you'll need to delete it and then make 2, 1 big 1 small08:10
Thehound6661 is swap08:10
Thehound6661 is root08:10
bgtaaha ok08:10
bgtai can make it from install aplication?08:11
Thehound666yeah, you'll delete your blank partition08:11
Thehound666then make 2 from it08:11
sstchurhow do I go about resolving dependency problems when trying to run sudo apt-get install beryl ?08:11
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Thehound666and allocate 1 as hda 108:11
Thehound666and other swap08:11
user_actually Thehound666, maybe yu can help me with something else.  im running a dual boot right now, and alocated 20gb to a fat32 swap to transfer between windows and linux... mainly for game files, thats all i use windows for.  but how do i access that area on the linux side, i cant find it08:11
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pirowhat do you do if everything just freezes and nothing works and ctrl atl f1 doesnt do anything? reboot and run recovery mode?08:12
Thehound666you might need to mount it08:12
Thehound666it should auto-mount08:12
pirocheck /etc/fstab08:12
user_i thought it did automount as well08:13
user_let me check the mountings....08:13
Thehound666reboot and then I'd do sudo touch /forcefsck08:13
Thehound666then reboot again08:13
Thehound666that'll force a check08:13
Thehound666to stop it doing that every reboot, do sudo touch /fastboot08:14
Thehound666after the check finishes08:14
user_hmmmm.... no fat32 partitions there.....  the odd thing is it registers on the windows side08:14
Thehound666I have a decent app too, that FAT32 partition is a waste08:15
Thehound6661 sec08:15
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Skullerhey guys...sorri for asking this question...it is windows-ish but i need help....i install 3rd party software to access my ext3 partitions in winxp...but when i click on the parition in explorer it says "drive not formatted, format now?"...i already have kubun installed on it so how do i access those partitions without formatting them?08:16
Thehound666http://www.fs-driver.org/08:16
Thehound666lets you access Linux partitions from Windows08:16
Thehound666I use it all the time08:16
user_lol....  i just need it for transfer space, windows is only for gaming08:16
user_but even still i gotta find it08:16
Thehound666to grab downloaded files I download in nix08:17
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Thehound666and since Linux can see NTFS08:17
Thehound666you won't need the 20 GB partition08:17
Skullercan anyone here help me please?08:18
piroah that 3rd party software might be a little iffy08:19
SkullerThehound666: the site u gave for the software to access ext3 in windows....i installed that software...but it says when i try to access my ext3 partitions that they are not formatted and asks if i want to format them...but i already have kubun installed on that one...so how do i access it?08:19
Skullerpiro: i tried diff ones...so its not the software fer sure...08:19
Thehound666oh you need to configure it with partitions to mount08:21
Thehound666uninstall it and reinstall, configuring it for that08:21
Thehound666that's what Windows thinks without it08:21
SkullerThehound666: i am sorry i dont get you....08:22
bgtahey how to see mi files in my HD?08:22
bgtai ahve to mount devide or somethign liek that?08:22
Thehound666when you install it, it gives you an option of ext3 partitions to mount and what lettres08:22
bgtafirst install, then i can see the files08:22
SkullerThehound666: yea...it does...and i assigned the appropriate letters and gave mah system a reboot....08:22
bgtathanks a loooooot08:23
bgtai will try08:23
Thehound666hmm always worked a treat for me08:23
Thehound666just don't mount it at the same time as nix08:23
SkullerThehound666: ohh...same time?08:23
Thehound666if you have 2 PCs using same drive(usually only corporations do)08:23
Thehound666just covering the bases08:24
Thehound666because that can mean trouble08:24
SkullerThehound666: no its not that...i just have the ntfs and ext3 partitions on the same hdd.....winxp on ntfs and kubun on ext3....i cannot access my ext3 partition in winxp but i can see them...08:25
Thehound666you might unassign the lettres xp gives them then assign them in ext3. Not sure why it's not working for you.08:26
Thehound666not sure why xp is even seeing them08:26
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Thehound666usually xp thinks its unformatted space08:26
Thehound666and ignores it08:26
SkullerThehound666: xp is seeing them coz i installed and tried the software u sent the link for and also a software by paragon...both have same problem....it says they are not formatted08:27
surgydoes anyone know of a good flow charting program? im looking for something equal to or greater than visio08:27
Thehound666not sure08:27
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SkullerThehound666: ok...thas arrite...thnx fer da help man08:28
Thehound666and Skuller, maybe someone can figure that one out.08:28
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Thehound666lots of people here more savvy on Linux than me08:28
Thehound666just most are asleep08:28
Thehound666:P08:28
SkullerThehound666: hope so...i m just so depressed coz i want to put all my downloaded torrent files on my ntfs to use i winxp08:28
Skullerlol...yea08:28
surgylol dont look at me08:28
Skullersurgy: hehe...ok...*luks away*08:29
surgylol nah08:29
user_hey for amarok, how do i get the radio stream casts to work?08:29
dettoaltrimenti_is there a website with a lot of openoffice calc templates, or is there any way to convert excel templates to openoffice templates?08:29
surgywhats the problem? need to access ext3 on ntfs?08:29
surgyuser_ check #amarok?08:29
Thehound666yeah I sent him here08:29
Skullersurgy: yea man08:29
Thehound666http://www.fs-driver.org/08:29
surgyskuller: there is a simple driver for that08:29
user_surgy: lol, no one is in there08:29
Thehound666worked for me with no tweaks08:29
Thehound666but his says unformatted08:30
surgyskuller: you running home or pro?08:30
Skullersurgy: yea...i triied that soft...plus another one by paragon...both enable me to see my ext3 partitions in explorer...but when i try to access them it says "drive unformatted, do u want to format?"...08:30
Skullersurgy: pro08:30
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SkullerThehound666: yea...cud b sumfin screwed in mah xp?08:31
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user_oops, wrong onw08:31
surgyskuller: hold on let me see if i can find another, if you try a third one and it doesnt work then we have to start looking for a problem elsewhere08:31
Kite_DHhello?08:31
piroKite_DH: hi08:31
Skullersurgy: thnx man08:31
Kite_DHi...want to ask for help08:31
piroshoot08:31
Kite_DHlike..i got kubuntu for 2 days installed now08:31
Kite_DHand i made backup DVDs of my files b4 kubuntu08:32
Kite_DHand now i want to copy them from DVD on my HD again08:32
Kite_DHand it somehow doesnt copy them fully08:32
Kite_DH:(08:32
piroyou see the files though ?08:32
Kite_DHit runs properly till like 80%08:32
Kite_DHthen it gets slower in kb/s08:32
Kite_DHand then stops08:32
Kite_DHand breaks up08:32
Kite_DHyes i see the files08:32
Kite_DHi can drag them to my desktop08:33
piroare you running out of space maybe?08:33
user_crap no one is awake there.... ill have to try again 2morrow08:33
surgyskuller: read this and tell me what you think,       http://www.it.fht-esslingen.de/~zimmerma/software/ltools.html08:33
Kite_DHno, i got...lets see08:33
Skullersurgy: roger that08:33
surgyuser_ whats the problem?08:33
Kite_DHsurgy..are you german?08:33
user_surgy: just wanted to know how to get the streaming radio to work with amarok08:33
surgykite_DH: my ancesters were why?08:33
Kite_DHjust asking, i am08:34
surgyuser_: sorry i have no clue08:34
user_sur08:34
user_surgy: lol, np man08:34
Kite_DHpiro, i got more than 220GB free space08:34
surgykite_DH: you ask becuase i responded in german before?08:34
Kite_DHno, coz of the website08:34
Kite_DH^^08:34
user_surgy: maybe yu can help me with something minor here which isnt working.  you know the clock in bottom right, i KEEP trying to change it to 12hr format, but it keeps changing back, why is that?08:34
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surgyuser_: thats an easy one08:35
Skullersurgy: damn....i need to in xp to download that soft aye..08:35
Skullerto be in*08:35
user_surgy: how do i fix that?08:35
piroKite_DH: try doing it in parts?08:35
piropartitions might be low08:35
piroi can't really think of any reason for a transfer to mess up08:35
piroother then low partition space08:35
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surgyuser_: right click clock >> adjust date and time format >> time and dates > change it to ph::HH::MM::SS08:36
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Kite_DHhmm...08:36
Kite_DHi tried file by file08:36
surgyuser_: that is change the time format to start with ph08:36
user_surgy: yah thats what im saying, but ill change it to that, save and everything, and it ALWAYS reverts back08:36
Kite_DHbut still it breaks up at some poiint08:36
Kite_DHpoint*08:36
surgyskuller: yes08:36
Skullerok surgy, i'll b bak in opera08:36
user_surgy: its making me go agro08:36
surgyuser_: check your logs is all i can say08:37
kishore_surgy: pH:MM:SS AMPM08:37
Skullersurgy: OMG....mum wants us all to go 2 sum1 plc now...NOW.....i'll leave this behind till i come bak...sorry man...i'll need the help later08:37
surgykishore: i stand corrected08:37
piroKite_DH: sorry to hear that08:37
surgyskuller: np go fetch :)08:37
Kite_DH:(08:37
Kite_DHhmm...08:37
Kite_DHi might try again later08:38
surgyumm did i miss something?08:38
Kite_DHmaybe its coz of konqueror08:38
underdog5004Recently, I've come back to my computer (numerous times) and found it to be running at 100% cpu. Furthermore, the mouse won't show/move, and all programs are locked up. I ssh'ed in with my gf's lappy, and did top. My xorg is the culprit. I'm not using any special drivers (I've got an old cheap ati rage). Can anyone tell me why this is happening?08:38
Kite_DHis there another app to transfer?08:38
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Kite_DHthis may sound stupid...but im still a linux n00b you see08:39
surgyunderdog5004: restart it?08:39
surgykite_DH: i must have missed your problem08:39
underdog5004surgy, when i do that, problem solved for about 10 minutes. when it locks up, I'm still able to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to the login screen.08:40
underdog5004jsyk08:40
pirofile transfers from dvd keep cutting out around 80% surgy08:40
underdog5004just so you know08:40
surgykite_DH: is it alway at the same %?08:40
Kite_DHyes, its like this...i put the DVD in my drive08:41
Kite_DHit shows up a windows of konqueror08:41
surgyunderdog5004: you know im a newbie, but i whould look at my processes...... maybe one got corupted?08:41
Kite_DHthen i choose the folder/file i want to move to my HD08:41
surgykite_DH: you have a corupt dvd08:41
Kite_DHnot really :(08:41
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kishore_Kite_DH: does this happen with just one of the DVD's or all of them?08:42
Kite_DHits with every file i want to transfer08:42
Kite_DHeven from CD08:42
underdog5004surgy I did, I used top, and it showed Xorg chewing up all my cpu power....08:42
Kite_DHto all DVD08:42
surgykite_DH: i bet you that one of the secters is messed up, scratches maybe08:42
Kite_DHand CD stuff08:42
Kite_DHi just burned them...08:42
Kite_DHwait08:42
Kite_DHlemme try again08:42
surgyunderdog5004: maybe comment all the xorg you dont NEED and then uncomment one at a time till the problem line comes out?08:42
underdog5004Kite_DH, sounds like your drive is messed up.08:43
underdog5004surgy, what do you mean?08:43
surgykite_DH: you could have the same problem with your hdd, corupt sectors08:43
Kite_DHhmmm :(08:43
Kite_DHim trying again brb08:43
surgyunderdog5004: for instance, if you have a bunch of extras added..... remove them only use the stuff you need, revert to defualt video driver etc etc08:44
Kite_DHok it transfers...08:44
Kite_DHlets wait how long :(08:44
underdog5004surgy, h/o, I'm gonna pastebin my xorg.conf08:44
Kite_DHit sometimes says "verzgert"08:44
Kite_DHmeans like...08:44
Kite_DHerm08:44
Kite_DHstalled08:44
surgystalling is normall08:45
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surgyfor short periods of time08:45
Kite_DHok its transfered08:45
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Kite_DHbut big files like .avi or so08:45
underdog5004that's when it's writing to disk and can't recieve more...08:45
surgyit sounds to me that you either have a screwed up partition or a screwed up drive08:45
kishore_stalled is also shown mostly when copying lasrge number of small size files08:45
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surgyunderdog5004: whould it help to see my xorg?08:47
surgyunderdog5004: mine works perfectly, and the only extra i have is my nvidia driver08:47
underdog5004h/o, I've gotta get mine first...I want you to take a look at it...I haven't changed anything for quite a while....08:47
Kite_DHoh yes, and i got another question08:47
Kite_DH:(08:48
surgywhat is this h/o ?08:48
Kite_DHhang on08:48
Kite_DHdoes it mean08:48
underdog5004hold on08:48
surgy!ask08:48
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:48
Kite_DHsame08:48
Kite_DHok08:48
Kite_DHits08:48
Kite_DHi got a printer08:48
Kite_DHcalled lexmark 1200 series08:48
surgyadd printer >> raw data08:49
Kite_DHkubuntu shows me to install many lexmark models but mine08:49
surgydone :)08:49
Kite_DHugh08:49
Kite_DHlets try o.o08:49
surgyuse raw data08:49
surgyi have the same printer and that works perfect for me08:49
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Kite_DHbut it doesnt print anything08:51
oliver_HI, LiveCD 6.10 comes up with black screen and consoles (ALT+CTRL F1-F6) unusable, I need to modify xorg.conf in console mode,08:51
Kite_DH:(08:51
underdog5004!vim | oliver_08:51
ubotuoliver_: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code08:51
surgyok i have a very good question: why dont we have ops in this chanel?08:51
underdog5004uhh....08:52
surgykite_DH: hold on and while your holding you should disconnect the usb and reconnect it and try again08:52
chavosurgy, they are ninja ops08:52
oliver_underdog5004: I cant use a console, because the res is messed up08:52
surgyuhh?08:52
surgychavo: ohhh08:52
underdog5004res...resolution? res...rest?08:52
oliver_resolution08:53
surgykite_DH: check kviewer print jobs     see if it has a job in que08:53
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Kite_DHnaw it doesnt08:54
underdog5004oliver_, boot into recovery mode (esc when grub loads) then type vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:54
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oliver_i tried safe mode, i tried VGA=771 at boot, always end up with messy Consoles and X08:54
underdog5004that'll let you configure it...if you want a "wizard" do this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:54
surgykite_DH: sorry thats all i can tell you, :(08:54
surgyunderdog5004: cant find xorg ? :) j/k08:54
Kite_DHlets see08:54
oliver_underdog5004: boot into recovery, donno if there is one with LiveCd (i try to install )08:55
underdog5004!cheatcodes08:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cheatcodes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:55
underdog5004!cheat codes08:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cheat codes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:56
surgy!cheat08:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cheat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:56
surgyhmm...08:56
Kite_DHoh yes, and i got another question08:56
underdog5004surgy, it's killin' me...just a little longer...lol08:56
Kite_DHlike, i was browsing on kde-look.org08:56
Kite_DHand i saw many themes08:56
surgyunderdog5004: lol08:56
Kite_DHand i have no idea how to install em08:56
underdog5004Kite_DH, magic08:56
oliver_BTW its a Laptop with RADEON X70008:56
Kite_DHso linux users are wizards?08:57
underdog5004more or less08:57
Kite_DHhehe^^08:57
chavoKite_DH, depends on the theme08:57
underdog5004we prefer warlocks08:57
Kite_DHchavo: lemme get something to have an example08:57
surgyunderdog5004: you might try recovery console yourself, use lynx and that non gui irc thing i forget the name iriirc or something?08:57
oliver_I can get it to work when i have a console08:57
chavoKite_DH, ok08:57
chavosome of the styles and windecos are in the repos too08:58
chavothen you can change the colors separately yourself08:58
Kite_DHchavo: this one http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4467008:58
oliver_underdog5004: is there a way where i can boot without starting X08:58
Kite_DHyes, i did that, but i want that glass look08:58
surgykite_DH: have you ever ran the command "sudo apt-get update" ?08:58
Kite_DHtransparent windows08:58
Kite_DHsurgy: no, whats that08:59
user_hey anyone know a good video editing app?08:59
surgykite_DH: like auto updates for windows, it updates all your drivers and everything08:59
underdog5004dammit, pastebin thinks I'm spamming it.08:59
Kite_DHoh, wo08:59
Kite_DHwhere do u have to type it in?08:59
surgyunderdog5004: use a different one?08:59
surgykite_DH: konsole08:59
underdog5004yeah, I'll havta08:59
user_anyone?09:00
surgyunderdog5004: http://www.pastebin.ca lets me paste 10k lines once09:00
Kite_DHnow this konsole wrote many thingies09:00
Kite_DHwhats it about?09:00
chavoKite_DH, looks like qtcurve for the style, and he's running beryl for the windo decorations09:00
surgykite_dh: just let it go09:00
Kite_DHits done already09:00
Kite_DHchavo: whats beryl? where can i get it09:00
underdog5004ok, pastebin.com/88351609:01
surgykite_dh: ok now type: sudo apt-get upgrade09:01
underdog5004geez, that was like pulling teeth09:01
underdog5004!beryl09:01
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:01
underdog5004afk09:01
chavoKite_DH, beryl is the 3d desktop, it uses the graphics card to paint your desktop09:01
Kite_DHoh?09:01
surgykite_dh: you should check out beryl it outperforms vista in gui looks09:01
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oliver_Is there a way to kill X, "like with a CTRL Backspace" without restarting09:01
Kite_DHif you tell me where to get it09:02
chavoKite_DH, what video card do you have?09:02
surgyoliver_: cntrl+alt+backspace09:02
Kite_DHi would love to09:02
crimsunoliver_: well, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ...09:02
surgykite_DH: ask that in #beryl09:02
Kite_DHnVidia GeForce 6200 SE09:02
Kite_DHi think09:02
Kite_DHok thx09:02
chavothat will work fine09:02
Kite_DHoh yes09:02
Kite_DHerm09:02
Kite_DHmy gfxcard09:02
Kite_DHkubuntu found the wrong one09:02
oliver_surgy: true but the its restarting ?!  (I need a hotkey, I CANT use a console09:02
Kite_DHbut it works too09:03
Kite_DHand the one i got isnt in the list either09:03
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chavoyeah the one sdriver will work for any nvidia card09:03
Kite_DHalright09:03
Kite_DHthx chavo09:03
chavobut you need to install the proprietary nvidia driver for 3d acceleration09:03
surgyoliver_: try alt + F109:04
chavothe free driver doesn't do it yet09:04
Kite_DHlets see after that update09:04
chavoKite_DH, are you on edgy?09:04
surgy!nvidia |Kite_DH09:04
ubotuKite_DH: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:04
oliver_surgy: The consoles are not usable (resolution is messed up) thats why i cant use cosole commands09:04
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underdog5004surgy, I know you're busy...have you checked out my thing yet?09:05
Kite_DHwhat edgy09:05
Kite_DHo.o09:05
chavo6.1009:05
underdog5004Kite_DH, edgy is the latest stable version of ubuntu09:05
underdog5004!edgy09:05
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes09:05
Kite_DHi got...09:05
Kite_DHKubuntu 6.1009:05
chavoyep that's it09:05
Kite_DHis it that?09:05
Kite_DHok then i got edgy09:05
surgyunderdog5004: im looking, and it looks weird, its not even following the same convention as mine, it is in the wrong order and has stuff i have never seen09:05
underdog5004surgy, weird....09:06
chavohere's a kubuntu package of the kde style in that screenshot http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4092009:06
underdog5004any way I can re-do it?09:06
chavoqtcurve is my favorite style, very configurable09:06
surgyoliver_: i dont quite understand what you want your res setting are in /etc/X11/xorg.conf change them with a texteditor09:06
Kite_DHno i mean09:06
surgyunderdog5004: wanna look at mine and compare?09:06
Kite_DHi want that glossy look09:06
Kite_DHthat glass09:06
Kite_DHlike vistas aero09:07
underdog5004oliver_, or, you can go through Kmenu>system settings> Monitor/Disply09:07
chavothe titlebars, yeah that's beryl09:07
surgykite_DH: get beryl you will be happy09:07
underdog5004surgy, uh...sure09:07
underdog5004pleas09:07
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underdog5004please*09:07
adydasIs beryl just a 3d desktop?09:07
chavobut you might as well grab qtcurve too cause it rocks, you can get the glassy loking buttons, etc09:07
underdog5004surgy, are you on edgy as well?09:07
NightBirdadydas, that and plugins to add features...09:07
chavoadydas, well it's really a new way to draw the desktop using the graphics card09:08
underdog5004can't wait for my new computer....09:08
surgyunderdog5004: yep09:08
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surgyunderdog5004: http://www.pastebin.ca/361653 thats mine09:08
chavothe plugins and effects give it the 3d qualities09:08
underdog5004just need the nvidia PCI card to run all the beryl magic09:08
Kite_DHthese guys in beryl channel09:08
Kite_DHare talking weird stugg09:08
Kite_DHstuff*09:08
Kite_DH:(09:08
Kite_DHXGL or something09:08
adydaspci-express?09:08
surgykite_DH: learn it and love it :)09:08
Kite_DHor AIXGL09:08
Kite_DHim already in love with kubuntu <309:08
underdog5004nope, old school pci09:08
Kite_DHstill some problems =)09:09
NightBirdyes, xgl is a replacement for the X windowing system that uses openGL to do rendering09:09
underdog5004cause my mobo is too cheap to have AGP or PCIe09:09
NightBirdaixgl is an attempt to add openGL capabilities to the regular x server09:09
unix_infidelno agp?09:09
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underdog5004no agp09:09
unix_infidelwowza.09:09
adydassounds dumb,09:09
NightBirdunderdog5004: ouch09:09
NightBirdthat is a cheap mobo09:09
chavoKite_DH, yeah beryl and company are still in heavy development and changing quite a bit, so which way to use beryl depends on what version of kubuntu you have09:09
unix_infidelwhatever gets the job done09:09
underdog5004yeah, it's a rather old HP...2.5ghz Celeron, though...gonna beef up the RAM to a Gig...I've literally got a gig of PC133 RAM laying around...a 512 and 2 256 sticks...09:10
NightBirdchavo, or just install from source :P09:10
oliver_surgy: I can switch to a console (ALT+STRG+F1-F6) but the resolution is messed up, i cant see a thing, its all colours. and ALT+CTRL+F7 is ablack screen, if i restart X it comes back black, so i need to find a way to get at least a console working or to boot without X, (ITs a Live CD)09:10
surgyunderdog5004: whats all that crap about bitmaps at the beginning of your xorg?09:10
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underdog5004to be honest, I have no idea09:10
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surgyoliver_: but X is working right?09:10
Kite_DHthx guys09:11
Kite_DHu were a big help09:11
Kite_DHi will join ur channel all the time now09:11
Kite_DHhahaha09:11
oliver_surgy: if get there i know howto get x working correct, i have the parameters to change xorg.conf in front of me09:11
surgyunderdog5004: see how i commented out my wacom devices? do that to yours on all that bitmap bullshit :)09:11
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chavoKite_DH, here's a how to to install beryl in 6.10 http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=5109:11
panchohey I need help with installing mercury on ubuntu09:11
underdog5004just the Load         "bitmap"  right?09:11
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panchoanyone know how to do that09:11
oliver_surgy: it is working, i hear the startup sound but screens black09:12
surgyoliver_: so you cant get into a console or kde? and your talking to us from another computer or the live cd?09:12
Kite_DHthx chavo09:12
oliver_i am talking from a nother computer09:12
surgyunderdog5004: comment that whole first section and see what happens09:12
oliver_Desktop is fine, Laptop is the problem (RADEON X700 chip)09:13
surgyoliver_: how attached are you to your install?09:13
cre8r1hello everyone, I'm running kbuntu on a NC8000 HP Laptop and I need to reinstall Cool Edit Pro 2. Does it work on Kubuntu or is there something like it available.09:13
panchoyeah my desktop has a radeon 92500 chip, thing crashed on me I need to get me a new video card09:13
underdog5004the whole Section "Module" part?09:13
panchogave an ati2dvag.dll error09:13
Kite_DHthx chavo09:14
Kite_DHi will do it after update09:14
surgyunderdog5004: let me look it up again, you know how to use cp to make a backup right? i whould do that first just in case09:14
chavook09:14
underdog5004lol, the problem is there is no easy way to test it...just leave it running...09:14
oliver_surgy: don't understand "attached" in this context, sorry my English :-)09:14
Kite_DHmaybe you can help me with something else too09:14
underdog5004surgy, I think if anything goes wrong, I'll just do recovery> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg...09:14
Kite_DHi saw many screenshots on KDE-look.org with widgets on their desktop09:14
underdog5004superkaramba09:14
underdog5004!superkaramba09:15
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org09:15
Kite_DHlike instant access to their HD and they got weather service or something09:15
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Kite_DHwow09:15
Kite_DHthx09:15
underdog5004np09:15
Kite_DHwhere to get the app??09:15
underdog5004Kite_DH, sudo apt-get install superkaramba09:15
surgyunderdog5004: umm yeah you seea the first section? from the first line all the way down to the first big space09:15
Kite_DHthat cmd seems handy09:15
surgyoliver_: attached? where did you get that?09:16
underdog5004surgy, thanks so much for your time, if it doesn't work, I know where to find help (and you!).09:16
underdog5004surgy, I commented that whole portion out, np09:16
underdog5004lets see how it does!09:16
surgyoliver_: oh sorry, reinstall kubuntu, if you have nothing to loose, else i cant help09:16
surgygood luck dog09:16
underdog5004tyvm, I need it!09:17
surgy?09:17
surgyoh nvm lol09:17
underdog5004I'm on an old 933Mhz PIII with 512Mb RAM...I need all the luck I can get09:17
Kite_DHhmm  i got another question09:17
underdog5004lol09:17
underdog5004!ask09:17
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:17
Kite_DHmy sister cant listen to mp309:17
Kite_DHlawl09:17
underdog5004!mp309:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:17
surgyunderdog5004: lol yeah, when you get your new comp remember i take old ones as donations :)09:17
Kite_DHon amarok09:17
Kite_DHoh09:17
oliver_surgy: to install/reinstall (what i like to do now) i need the LiveCD (or any Kubuntu CD) but i end up with THAT problem09:18
Kite_DHshe needs mp3 support too?09:18
Kite_DHbut i installed it on my user account09:18
underdog5004surgy, if you like...it'll make a good server, I guess...I've got a 733 w/ 512 RAM as my home bt server...it kicks ass...09:18
Kite_DHdoes that mean i have to make it on every acc too?09:18
surgyoliver_: do you have an LCD monitor?09:18
underdog5004Kite_DH, idk...maybe09:18
Kite_DHhmm..alright09:18
underdog5004Kite_DH, it shouldn't be that way though, since you use sudo to install it....09:18
surgyunderdog5004: yes it whould be nice to have if you wanna mail it to  me09:18
oliver_surgy: Laptop LCD09:18
surgyoliver_: i bet your problem is your refresh rate is too high....... my LCD only supports up to 70mhz, and i dont know how to change it, when kubuntu tried to set it to 75mhz i had the same problem, but i uninstalled/reinstalled and it fixed it09:20
underdog5004how about this: you pay for half the shipping, and I'll ship it to you, with a 40 gig HD, 512 Megs RAM, ATI RAGE 64 gfx card, and a wireless card guaranteed to work out of the box?09:20
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underdog5004oh, uh, I meant a 30 gig drive...09:20
surgyunderdog5004: get me a qoute :)09:20
underdog5004alrighty09:20
underdog5004ttyal09:20
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surgyanyone else need my tech support?09:21
surgylol09:21
oliver_surgy: realy, the only thing i need is to boot the LIVECD with the consoles working in a correct resolution or to kill X at ALT+CTRL+F709:21
orient2000!Ubuntu09:21
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome09:21
oliver_surgy: and the i am able to install09:21
orient2000#ubuntu09:21
surgyoliver_: right..... and since you said you cant do any of that, i am of no good use to you..... sorry :( i just dont know09:22
kishore_is anyone using feisty in here?09:22
surgyi am09:22
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surgynot09:22
surgy:)09:22
kishore_i am unable to suspend on feisty09:22
cre8r1hello everyone, I'm running kbuntu on a NC8000 HP Laptop and I need to reinstall Cool Edit Pro 2. Does it work on Kubuntu or is there something like it available.09:23
kishore_so was wondering if any one else had the issue09:23
cre8r1hello everyone, I'm running kbuntu on a NC8000 HP Laptop and I need to reinstall Cool Edit Pro 2. Does it work on Kubuntu or is there something like it available.09:23
surgy!wine |cre8r109:23
oliver_surgy: thanks anyhow09:23
ubotucre8r1: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:23
orient2000I can not download gaim and other programs is there ane repositories down?09:23
surgyoliver_:anytime09:23
surgyorient2000: whats your errors?09:24
cre8r1This question is for anyone who knows the answer, I'm running kbuntu on a NC8000 HP Laptop and I need to reinstall Cool Edit Pro 2. Does it work on Kubuntu or is there something like it available.09:24
orient2000I use adept and just says error no more like program is not there09:24
oliver_surgy: BTW, an installation of Feisty (4) works on this LAPTOP, since i could use the consoles09:24
surgycre8r1: i answered your question......09:24
surgyoliver_: you should try it, be warned it isnt officially stable until april09:25
orient2000let me check09:25
cre8r1thanks09:25
surgyorient2000: sounds like you havnt enabled your repositorys or updated your system using sudo apt-get update09:25
oliver_surgy: i know, thanks. I am using edgy on my Desktop for "REAL WORLD"09:25
surgycr8r1: np09:25
orient2000It says BREAK (install)09:26
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orient2000I did updated09:26
surgy!adeptfix orient200009:26
surgy!adeptfix | orient200009:26
ubotuorient2000: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:26
Kite_DHoh yes09:26
Kite_DHthis question is very stoopi09:27
Kite_DHstoopid*09:27
Kite_DHhere it goes>_<09:27
Kite_DHlike...09:27
surgyno question is stupid09:27
Kite_DHi have kubuntu 6.10 live CD09:27
Kite_DHand i installed it09:27
Kite_DHto my HD09:27
Kite_DHand..i wanted to ask09:27
surgytry to condense your statements to one line though09:27
Kite_DHif i got a full version of kubuntu 51009:27
Kite_DH6.10*09:27
Kite_DHyes sry09:27
NightBirdyou installed kubuntu from a 6.10 live cd?09:28
Kite_DHyes09:28
surgyi did09:28
NightBirdand you're asking if you have the full version?09:28
Kite_DHright09:28
Kite_DHit was a normal 800MB CD+rw09:28
surgykite_DH: yes you have the full version, nightbird is gonna flame you i think :)09:28
Kite_DHim sry :(09:28
surgyyour fine09:28
NightBirdI'm just trying to think of what might be missing09:28
surgyno worries :)09:28
NightBirdwhat might give you the idea that it's an incomplete version..09:29
surgynightbird: nothing he cant get from the repos09:29
surgynightbird: becuase theres a dvd version probably09:29
Kite_DHthat question was because i saw DVDs with kubuntu 6.1009:29
NightBird6.06 had a dvd version, but that just had stuff available from the repos put on the cd for easier access...09:29
NightBirdah, is there a dvd version now?09:29
surgyyes09:29
surgykite_DH: no worries you can get that stuff from apt-get09:29
Kite_DHoh, btw the update is extracting rightnow09:30
NightBirdor from adapt manager :P09:30
Kite_DHit downloaded 24minutes09:30
surgykite_DH: good09:30
NightBirdif you prefer a more gui version than apt-get09:30
surgyjust remember to kdesu adept and not sudo, you could destroy it that way i learned the hard way09:30
NightBirdreally...09:31
Kite_DHoh yes, another question...am i bothering?? well its like, im a 'gfx guy' and i used Photoshop CS2 on windows XP....is there a way to get that running on my Kubuntu??09:31
NightBirdso there is a difference between sudo and kdesu?09:31
surgynightbird: all guid apps should be kdesu09:31
surgy!kdesu | nightbird09:31
ubotunightbird: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo09:31
orient2000an not start such directory /var/... does not exist09:31
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NightBirdhuh... ok09:31
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surgy!repositorys09:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about repositorys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:32
surgy!repo09:32
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:32
surgyi cant spell for shit09:32
NightBirdheh09:32
NightBirdthere are a number of image editing tools that contain most of the main features found in photoshop..09:32
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Kite_DHbut i only learned PS09:33
surgykite_DH: use wine09:33
Kite_DHback then with XP09:33
NightBirdif you *must* have photoshop working, wine might be able to help you since I don't think PS is available on linux..09:33
surgywine runs PS fine09:33
NightBirdreally?09:33
Kite_DHwhats wine09:33
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Kite_DHso many new things..09:33
surgy!wine |kite_DH09:33
ubotukite_DH: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:33
Kite_DHoh..09:34
Kite_DHis that for free?09:34
NightBirdwine is09:34
surgynightbird: its slower than windows on loads but other than that its fine for me09:34
surgyPS costs09:34
NightBirdhuh09:34
Kite_DHi know that09:34
Kite_DHi mean, if wine costs09:34
Kite_DHi saw another app called crossover09:34
NightBirdthere are a number of commercial versions of wine09:34
Kite_DHcosts 5609:34
surgykite_DH: actually you allready have wine09:34
NightBirdcrossover uses wine09:34
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Kite_DHi do?09:34
surgyyes09:34
Kite_DHo.o09:35
surgyopen konsole and type: wine09:35
Kite_DHwait, after the extracting09:35
Kite_DHit extract...long09:35
Kite_DHsomehow09:35
NightBirdsurgy, wine comes preinstalled in kubuntu now or something?09:35
Kite_DHseems more than i dled lol09:35
surgykite_DH: its updating your entire OS be patient09:35
Kite_DHoh, ok09:35
surgynightbird: yes basic wine should be there09:35
surgyi think09:35
NightBirdhuh09:35
Kite_DHyes i see its installed09:36
surgysee09:36
NightBirdinteresting09:36
surgyalthough i prefer beer09:36
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Kite_DHok its done09:36
=== NightBird is going to try to help out with wine, but I haven't actually started on that yet... >_>
surgykite_DH: good now your up to date09:36
NightBirdthe whole... senior seminar took up a bit of time...09:36
Kite_DHwow09:36
Kite_DHlooks awesome09:36
surgynightbird: what are you talking about? are you an ubuntu dev?09:37
crazy_penguinHello09:37
surgyhi penguin09:37
NightBirdsupertux5, no...09:37
NightBirder... surgy09:37
NightBirdsorry supertux509:37
Kite_DHok, is there anythign next?09:37
NightBird(might as well get two nick allerts in there)09:37
surgykite_DH: what do you mean "next" ?09:37
Kite_DHsomething usefull09:37
Kite_DHfor me09:37
Kite_DHor so09:37
surgywell i dont know what you want09:38
NightBirdKite_DH, try installing photoshop09:38
surgyim gonna smoke another cig and hit the sack its 2:40 am here.....09:38
NightBirdor you could restart if you want to have the system fully upgraded09:38
NightBird(aka, using the new kernel/x system)09:38
Kite_DHi would love to install it, but to install it i would have to get my files from my DVD...we had that earlier09:39
Kite_DHanyway09:39
Kite_DHhttp://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=5109:39
surgykite_DH: insert the cd and then open konsole and type: cd /media/cdrom0          and then type: wine setup.exe09:39
Kite_DHhere it says09:39
Kite_DHAdd this to your /etc/apt/sources.list:09:39
Kite_DHwhats that?09:39
Kite_DH /etc/apt/sources.list:09:39
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surgykite_DH: open a konsole, and type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:39
NightBirdmmm nano09:40
NightBird>_>09:40
NightBird:P09:40
surgynightbird: thought we were gui fans? :)09:40
Kite_DHoh ok09:40
surgyyou see now?09:40
dhqi need help with my keyboard my win key and capsloct doesntwork can anyone help me09:40
NightBirdsurgy, yeah, well... for some reason whenever I start in with a konsole I tend to stick to the console for awhile :P09:40
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surgynightbird: lol09:41
NightBirdfor some reason, having to click on things slows me down...09:41
surgydhq: wallmart >> $9.99 == new keyboard ?09:41
NightBirdyeah, does it work in windows?09:41
NightBirdor some other OS?09:41
dhqsurgy: its a laptop and it works on any linux os live cd09:41
NightBirdah09:41
surgyyour regional settings?09:42
surgyi think i better let nightbird have this one09:42
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NightBirdsurgy, oh no it's not09:42
surgy?09:42
dhqsurgy: NightBirdso help me09:43
NightBirdsurgy, I've reached my limit on the ammount that I can help :P09:43
NightBird(which was to confirm if it was a software or hardware issue)09:43
dhqits a software issue09:43
NightBirdif it was hardware, I would have told him to try a new keyboard... if software, I would have told him I can't help him09:43
surgynightbird: i was a newbie 5 weeks ago only got 6 weeks of linux under my belt, im paying back all those who helped me by helping others :) paying what i owe to the comunity09:43
surgynightbird: and thats as good advice as i can give09:44
Kite_DHit seems to install that beryl now09:44
surgykewl09:44
NightBirdsurgy: I'm also a linux newbie... I just try to help when I can, and when I don't know how to help, I let them know :P09:44
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surgykite_DH: get your drivers installed first?09:44
Kite_DHnow its extracting again09:44
NightBirddhq, have you checked the keyboard region setting like surgy suggested?09:44
dhqNightBird: well i guess i have :)09:45
=== NightBird may be able to help Kite_DH, since I've managed to get beryl up and running myself...
Kite_DHnow i have a thing called emerald manager09:45
Kite_DHor something09:45
NightBirddespite having a number of difficulties >_>09:45
Kite_DHis that beryl?09:45
NightBirdyeah09:45
Kite_DHwhat to do next09:45
NightBirdemerald manager is the window manager that beryl comes with09:45
surgykite_DH: emerald manager helps you control the way your windows look09:45
Kite_DHoh09:45
Kite_DHlets see09:45
NightBirdthere is another window manager that lets you use the kde window manager, but still retain all of the plugin effects09:45
Kite_DHo.o empty09:46
surgyimop beryl is a resource hog.... i game too much for it09:46
Kite_DHaw there09:46
surgy!keyboard09:46
ubotuTo find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts09:46
NightBirdyeah, it does take an opengl refrence, and if your system doesn't support multiple opengl handles, you're left with software rendering09:46
surgy!keyboard | dhq09:46
ubotudhq: please see above09:46
NightBirdhaha nice09:47
surgynice AI system you have ubotu09:47
Kite_DHare there beryl themes?09:47
NightBirdKite_DH, are you using hardware rendering right now?09:47
NightBirdyes there are09:47
dhqyes i love ubotu09:47
surgykite_DH yes you should join #beryl09:47
Kite_DHno idea what i use09:47
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Kite_DHok09:47
surgyok guys any last questions before i hit the sack?09:48
NightBirdwhere do babies come from?09:48
Kite_DHyes09:48
NightBirdj/k09:48
Kite_DHwhat does "hit the sack" mean09:48
Kite_DHhit your balls?09:48
Kite_DHor...what09:48
surgynightbird: from between your legs :) j/k09:48
Kite_DHis that like slang or something09:49
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surgykite_DH: i was refering to sack as my pillow not my testies lol09:49
Kite_DHlol09:49
NightBirdKite_DH, it means go to sleep09:49
Kite_DHoh09:49
Kite_DHok09:49
Kite_DHlawl09:49
NightBirdI don't believe that #kubuntu is the place to talk about your masturbation practices...09:49
surgygut nacht soldat und kubuntu09:49
surgydid i say that right09:49
surgy?09:49
NightBirddunno, it's been about 8 years since I took german09:50
Kite_DHgute nacht09:50
surgylol good night09:50
Kite_DH;D09:50
NightBirdsleep well09:50
surgyyerp09:50
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orient2000!adeptfix09:52
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:52
Kite_DHim like testing around wine rightnow09:52
Kite_DH>_<09:52
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NightBirdgood luck09:53
Kite_DHthat konsole stuff rox09:53
NightBirdwhat version or you using?09:53
Kite_DHi will need to learn it09:53
Kite_DHversion of kubuntu?09:53
NightBirdno, wine09:53
Kite_DHno idea09:53
NightBirdwine --version09:53
Kite_DH0.9.2209:53
NightBirdhm... 9 versions behind... not too bad I guess...09:54
NightBirdcurrent is 0.9.3109:54
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NightBirdwhich, since the latest updates have focused on dx, and better support for some of that kind of stuff, older versions are fine for most setups09:55
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Kite_DHNightBird: hey, when i type in my console "wine /media/cdrom0/Adobe Photoshop 7.0 Retail/Setup.exe"09:58
Kite_DHit says09:58
Kite_DHwine: cannot find '/media/cdrom0/Adobe'09:59
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Kite_DHoh now10:00
Kite_DHit works10:00
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Kite_DHwow thank you very much10:01
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vincent_hello everybody10:04
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andreas_hello10:06
andreas_maybe i found some bugs in the adept updater of feisty herd 410:06
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vincent_I would need some quick help : I installed Kubuntu Edgy i386 on a AMD64 machine, I am running the 2.6.17.11-generic kernel. Now I want to install GPU drivers from http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html. But do I need the IA32 or the AMD64 since I installed Kubuntu from a i386  CD ?10:07
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chavovincent_ you would need the ia32 but the nvidia drivers are available in the repos10:08
vincent_thanks chavo but yesterday I installed the nvida-glx from the official repositories and it made my system freeze on Firefox and even adept ... this is why I want to try the legacy version from nvid's website10:10
chavovincent_ what card do you have?10:10
vincent_Twintech Geforce 6200 TC10:10
Kite_DHnice10:11
Kite_DHeverything works10:11
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Kite_DHNightBird: hey night, is there a way to unzip .rar and .zip files with Ark?10:12
andreas_there were 46 packages updatable and after downloading there appeared some windows where i should enter a value between -20 and 19. in the detail area were some lines like this: "Use of uninitilaizes value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN3> line 4." (also the same message with <GEN3> line 9, 17, 25, 33, 41, 49, 57 and 65). if someone is interested in this..10:12
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NightBirdI believe you can unzip and unrar files using Ark...10:12
chavoKite_DH, zip is built in for rar- sudo apt-get install unrar10:12
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Kite_DHthx10:13
Kite_DHhey chavo10:13
Kite_DHi installed photoshop 7.010:14
Kite_DHand it doesnt launch the app10:14
Kite_DHsomehow10:14
Kite_DHanother question is, how can i uninstall things?10:14
NightBirdusing wine?10:15
dettoaltrimenti_I know the terminal commands adduser and deluser, but how do you show a list of users?10:15
Kite_DHyes10:15
chavoKite_DH, not sure about the photoshop thing it works well with crossover office, but that costs money10:15
osiris!restriceddd formats > osiris10:15
osiris!restriced formats > osiris10:15
osiris!restricted formats > osiris10:15
Kite_DHhmm10:15
NightBirdKite_DH, there should be an uninstall in the kde menu...10:16
Kite_DHhow can i get this karamba things agai10:16
Kite_DHagain10:16
NightBirdfor some reason, my version of wine has been putting it under lost and found10:16
NightBird!karamba | Kite_DH10:16
ubotuKite_DH: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org10:16
NightBirdhuh10:16
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NightBirdit actually had something on it10:16
=== NightBird was guessing...
Kite_DHi mean10:16
NightBirdI'm guessing you could just add it using the package manager10:16
Ademananyone here who uses ktorrent, how does the queue manager work? the higher a torrent is in the queue manager list the higher priority?10:16
Kite_DHwasnt there a cmd10:17
NightBirdto start it?10:17
Kite_DHto dl10:17
Kite_DHyes10:17
Kite_DHand install10:17
NightBirdtry searching for it in the package manager10:17
NightBird(aka, adept)10:17
NightBirdor apt-cache search (name)10:17
NightBirdto find the package, then sudo apt-get install <name>10:18
Kite_DHm konqueror somehow...10:18
Kite_DHdoesnt work10:18
Kite_DHwait, i got to restart10:18
Kite_DHbrb10:18
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=== NightBird needs to be up in 6 hours... I should go to sleep...
dettoaltrimenti_does anyone know the difference between GTK, KDE, and X11?10:20
NightBirdI do!10:20
NightBirdGTK and KDE are desktop environments10:20
chavodettoaltrimenti_, don't know if there's a command to list all users10:20
vincent_Anyone solved this freezing bug with nvidia cards ? on firefox and other apps under Ubuntu ...10:20
chavoyou can cat /etc/passwd10:20
dettoaltrimenti_yeah that does it chavo10:21
NightBirdX11 provides an x server that GUI programs use to display stuff to the screen10:21
chavotry this cat /etc/passwd | grep /bin/bash | cut -d: -f110:21
dettoaltrimenti_nightbird- so am I using KDE or GTK? I thought GTK was the 'widgets' part of X1110:21
chavothat will clean it up some10:21
fdovingchavo: 'getent passwd' to list all users.10:21
chavoGTK is the widget set used by gnome apps for the most part10:21
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NightBirddettoaltrimenti_, if you're using kubuntu, you are probably using kde10:22
NightBirder... gtk isn't an environment... that's gnome >_>10:22
NightBirdgtk is a programming library10:22
chavodettoaltrimenti_, kde apps are built using the QT toolkit10:22
chavobut you can use gtk, gnome apps under gnome and vice versa10:23
dettoaltrimenti_so gtk is a programming library- so it's only used to install programs?10:23
chavounder KDE  I mean10:23
NightBirdused to provide a cross platform system that uses the current systems UI items so that GTK programs will look the same as the rest of your applications...10:23
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chavodettoaltrimenti_, it's the API used to program the apps like WIN32 under windows10:23
chavoit provides the widgets, etc.10:24
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Kite_DHback10:24
NightBirdwb10:24
dettoaltrimenti_I'm sorry, I'm just curious about how all this works- so GTK and QT are APIs, application programming interfaces, but what do they do?10:25
Kite_DHhey..i installed winRAR b4 i knew that Ark can unrar...how can i uninstall winRAR again?10:25
dettoaltrimenti_Kite_DH- how did you install it?10:25
chavodettoaltrimenti_, they draw the windows, the buttons, scrollbars, etc10:25
NightBirddid you use apt-get to install it?10:26
dettoaltrimenti_chavo- you mean when X11 says I need my desktop icons on the desktop, then QT runs and 'draws' them there right?10:26
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chavobasically QT tells X11 waht to draw, it all sits on top of X10:27
Kite_DHhmm what happened q.q10:27
NightBirdX11 simply provides a method to draw to the screen and get events...10:27
dettoaltrimenti_oh ok10:27
NightBirdso it might be able to say 'oh, this part has been uncovered, I better tell that program about it'10:27
NightBirdor.. 'the user clicked! I better tell this program about it..."10:28
fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: qt provides standard ways to make buttons and boxes easily. if you compare kde apps, you can see the buttons looks much about the same, for example.10:28
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dettoaltrimenti_and KDE and Gnome are equals- so I could run X11 on gnome, or xfce.... and I could run QT or GTK on x11 or xfce, right?10:28
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Kite_DHdettoaltrimenti_: with WINE10:28
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NightBirddettoaltrimenti_, you run gnome, xfce, kde, etc ontop of x1110:29
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: X11 runs under all of the graphical stuff10:29
Jucatokernel -> X11 -> KDE/GNOME/Fluxbox/etc10:29
dettoaltrimenti_Window System-> Desktop Environment->  "widget toolkit".... so X11, KDE, GTK10:30
fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: for a better understanding of what an API (like QT and GTK) is and how it works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/API10:30
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NightBirddettoaltrimenti_, X11 is not a widget toolkit10:30
dettoaltrimenti_in that order I mean10:30
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: not entirely accurate10:30
NightBirdkde is a desktop environment10:30
Kite_DHso, i installed winRAR with WINE, how do uninstall it?10:31
fdoving.. but it also have an API.. :)10:31
dettoaltrimenti_X11 is a window system, which can run a desktop environment(kde or gnome), and within that it runs a 'widget toolkit(this is what wikipedia calls gtk)' (gtk or qt)10:31
NightBirdKite, is there something in your menu?10:31
Kite_DHyes10:31
NightBirdthe kde menu I mean10:31
Kite_DHit says10:31
Kite_DHWine >10:31
NightBirddoes that work?10:31
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: the toolkits are not separate layer that's run independently of the Window Manager or Desktop Environment10:31
fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X11 for more info on X11.10:32
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Kite_DHyes...10:33
Kite_DHi think10:33
Kite_DHbut i dont want it anymore10:33
NightBirdX11 is below the window system.  kde, gnome, etc provide window managers.  they also provide a desktop environment, and widget toolkits to provide a unified presentation10:33
Kite_DHsince i can do it with ARK now10:33
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fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: as jucato says, the toolkits are used to make programs (like desktop enviroments, KDE and GNOME and their apps), it doesn't run by itself, like X11 does.10:33
NightBirdKite_DH, is there an uninstall option?10:33
Kite_DHno there isnt10:33
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: a toolkit is a sort of basic building block (program-wise) for making graphical interfaces, such as the control widgets (scrollbars, buttons, dialog boxes) used in window managers and desktop environments.10:33
NightBirdhm... so you want to fine the wine add/remove programs, huh?10:33
Kite_DHyes10:33
NightBirdKite_DH: .... good question... better ask in #winehq10:34
dettoaltrimenti_thanks for the help guys- I found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments and I think I'm clear on it now10:34
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Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: you might want to add this to your growing list of wikipedia articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widget_toolkit10:34
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dettoaltrimenti_I am going through adept, and some things I don't understand like why do I have QT and GTK installed10:34
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dettoaltrimenti_heh thanks jucato10:35
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chavodettoaltrimenti_, if you install any gtk/gnome apps it will install the gtk library also10:35
dettoaltrimenti_another question if you can handle it- why do I have QT3 and QT4 installed on my computer, as well as GTK, GTK+, GTK2, GTK+ 2.0 etc things- are they all the same?10:36
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: KDE/GNOME basically builds on Qt/GTK. it uses Qt/GTK to draw and define widgets (another term you might want to look up) and how interact with them. KDE/GNOME has it's own API (another term?) or set of functions/classes, but all these use Qt/GTK too10:36
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: they're not the same. Qt 3 vs. Qt 410:36
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fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: the reason you have them installed now, is that if let's say some KDE application wants to make a scrollbar, it executes some code that refers to something in the QT api, if you don't have the QT software libraries installed, that won't work.10:36
Jucatobtw, the only reason why Qt 4 is installed also on Edgy is because the Kubuntu Hardware Database uses Python-Qt410:37
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chavoKDE4 is built on qt4, but there are some apps that use it already10:37
fdovingspeedcrunch for example..10:37
Jucatooh yeah, speedcrunch too10:38
dettoaltrimenti_oh wow, and QT is used in windows and mac too?10:38
fdovingyes.10:38
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: *can* be used, yes. GTK can be used on Windows too10:38
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chavoyup I have the Gimp installed on my windows box10:39
dettoaltrimenti_is there a way to get a list of all the terminal commands, or is there a nice list somewhere online?10:39
Jucato!cli10:39
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands10:39
Jucatoyou can start with those ^^^10:39
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thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: there are *thousands* of commands :)10:40
dettoaltrimenti_thanks- I was looking at useradd and userdel, and I have an adept package that adds the commands adduser and deluser- weirddd10:40
Kite_DHhow to find out what graphiccard i have?10:40
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: adduser and deluser are easier to use10:40
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dettoaltrimenti_Kite_DH lspci10:40
Kite_DHrun in konsole?10:41
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: e.g.  adduser me audio  adds the user "me" to the "audio" group ,  adduser me  just creates a new "me" user :)10:41
dettoaltrimenti_is that harder than in useradd10:42
Kite_DHand which one of that is my GFX?10:42
dettoaltrimenti_oh I see, it's way easier10:43
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: it's *very* easy - there's even a walk through questions etc if needed10:43
Kite_DHit says10:43
fdovingKite_DH: the one with 'VGA compatible controller'..10:43
Kite_DHVGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0162 (rev a                                                                                              1)10:43
Kite_DHhmm10:43
Kite_DHand when i open beryl it crashed10:43
Kite_DHcrashs*10:43
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: just be sure to logout - login to make the changes effective10:43
NightBirdok... try installing the nvidia driver10:44
NightBird(that was to Kite_DG)10:44
Kite_DHhows that possible10:44
NightBirder.. DH10:44
fdovingKite_DH: you can try 'sudo update-pciids' and then try lspci again.10:44
dettoaltrimenti_thanks thoreauputic- mainly just trying to go beyong 'newbie' in linux, learn a little more10:44
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: another good CLI site is http://tuxfiles.org10:44
thoreauputicsimple and a good intro10:45
Kite_DHnow it says10:45
dettoaltrimenti_thanks10:45
dettoaltrimenti_one more question- is there way to make the grep command not case sensitive?10:45
Kite_DHVGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200SE TurboCache (TM)10:45
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_:  grep -i10:45
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dettoaltrimenti_thanks10:45
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thoreauputic:)10:46
ksnipaQuick question i got superkaramba installed and when i run it from the tray and I install new widgets/gadets how do I go about opening them? Where do they save to?10:46
Kite_DHrestart10:46
lucahello everybody!10:46
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Kite_DHok10:47
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Kite_DHok i got nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200SE TurboCache (TM)10:48
Kite_DHbut kubuntu says: nv10:48
Kite_DHlol10:48
lucacan anyone tell me where i can find the small installation cd of kubuntu, that is about 200 Mb, please?10:48
Kite_DHhow can i tell kubuntu i got that card10:48
fdoving!nvidia10:48
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:48
fdovingKite_DH: ^^10:49
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chavoksnipa, ~/.kde/share/apps/supekaramba/themes but it should be available to use after you install it10:49
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ksnipachavo, thanks yea thats how I assumed it would work but never seem to show up there, but when I do go to install them again they got the checkmark beside them so don't know whats up with that10:50
Kite_DHfdoving: somehow i dont get what they want from me10:50
dettoaltrimenti_does the 'rm' command permanently delete a file, no sending it to the recycle bin right?10:50
Kite_DHi dont have that synaptic stuff10:51
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thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: right10:51
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fdovingKite_DH: you use adept instead of synaptic.10:51
Kite_DHok10:51
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dettoaltrimenti_so, let me get this straight- when you put something in the recycle bin, your computer(as far as terminal commands) is moving the file to another folder, and then keeping a record of what directory the file came from?10:51
fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: correct.10:52
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Jucatoyep yep10:52
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Kite_DHhmm10:53
ksnipaChavo, I'm able to get the themes into my list now but when I do add them to the desktop, they don't seem to appear, any ideas?10:53
tucoHello all10:53
chavoksnipa, if you double click it, it should say if it's running or not10:53
ksnipachavo, says its running but can't see it on the desktop anywhere10:54
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dettoaltrimenti_so the way most programs work in linux is there is a program that only works on the command line, then a GUI is made to run those commands? So when I use adept, when I click on buttons it just saves me the time of writing 'sudo apt-get install' and all that: and Synaptic and Adept both use apt-get?10:54
chavoksnipa, it may be under your other windows10:54
lucai found ubuntu minimal installation cd, for the installaton from network. but i would like kde (kubuntu), not gnome! can anyone help me?10:54
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tucoI have a question. I need to download a package to get my ati card working properly, same for my audigy card. All for laptop, thank you fellas.10:55
ksnipachavo, lol give me some credit ;) yea I minimized them all nothing there, superkarmba crashed on me just now so I just restarted it, but still nothing, I think I might need to download and re-make it10:55
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: yes, more or less10:55
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: usually a GUI program has a CLI backend10:55
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: or several, sometimes10:56
chavoksnipa, hmm may be a buggy theme10:56
chavoyou built superkaramba?10:56
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dettoaltrimenti_CLI is command line interface, ok- are all CLIs usable on their own, in the terminal? for example, aspell, the spellchecker CLI used in openoffice?10:56
ksnipachavo, no i installed it using synpatic10:56
chavook10:56
ksnipachavo, theme I was running was the clock and also tried the kopete one10:57
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: it's often much quicker to use the command - aspell is usable on the CLI I think, yeah10:57
ksnipasame problem for both10:57
chavoksnipa, clock magick, that analog clock?10:58
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: type  aspell --help | less   :)10:58
ksnipachavo, yup thats the one10:58
chavohmm works for me10:58
tucoAnyone can help me guys?10:58
ksnipayea, You  think making it from source would make a difference?10:59
Kite_DHreboot10:59
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: there's also the "dict" command, that looks up words on line from dictionaries ( e.g.  dict weird  dict foo )10:59
dettoaltrimenti_I uninstalled less10:59
chavotuco for the ati card look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:59
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: why ??10:59
chavoas for the audigy card it should work11:00
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: less is one of the most useful commands...11:00
Linux_Galoretuco: you dont need a driver for the audigy card its already there and the ati stuff is on the ubuntu server11:00
Linux_Galore!ati11:00
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:00
decapitatedAnybody here?11:00
dettoaltrimenti_ok I'll put it back on, see what it can do11:00
chavodecapitated, just us bots11:01
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: less can do heaps - see man less :)11:01
dettoaltrimenti_will do11:01
thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_:   "less is more "11:01
thoreauputic;-)11:01
tucoWell I need to have my audigy 2 zs notebook recognized, as I can't seem to do it!11:01
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thoreauputicdettoaltrimenti_: just curious - why on earth did you uninstall it ?11:02
Kite_DHim back11:02
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Linux_Galorelesson 1, don't use azureus and amarok at the same time11:02
chavoyou can also use man:/appname to point and click your way through man pages in konqueror11:02
decapitatedCan anybody tell me how to play MP3's with amaroK?11:02
Linux_Galoretuco: aah no driver for the z series yet11:03
thoreauputic!mp311:03
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:03
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decapitatedok. Thanks.11:03
lucadecapitated: you need to install some package11:03
Linux_Galoretuco: creative are releasing one11:03
tucothe audigy one work11:03
decapitatedWhich one?11:03
decapitatedk11:03
tucoI made it work once no problem at all11:04
decapitatedcool11:04
tucook downloaded the ati drivers through adept, do I need to restart the machine for it to pick them up?11:04
Linux_Galoretuco: just use the generic sb driver11:04
tucook11:04
tucologging off and back11:04
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ksnipachavo, i turned my wall paper off now I'm seeing a black square where the clock magic clock would be placed any ideas what this problems linked to?11:05
lucadecapitated: i don't remember... i did it lot of time ago. you can try to do a search in "ubuntu forum"11:05
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chavoksnipa, no idea sorry11:05
decapitatedok11:05
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ksnipachavo, thanks anyways11:05
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dettodamn internet11:05
dettois there any way to see which CLIs a certain GUI uses?11:05
sergo_ ?11:05
detto!ru | sergo_11:06
ubotusergo_:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke11:06
lucadecapitated: it's http :// forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php/topic,24715.0. html11:07
thoreauputicdetto: if you know the package name, look at the files with   dpkg -L | grep bin11:08
Jucatodetto: it's not usually obvious. you'd have to do a bit of research. sometimes the app's description says which backend it uses11:08
decapitatedBye11:08
thoreauputicdetto: or | grep games  for games11:08
thoreauputicJucato: see my answer above11:08
thoreauputicactually  dpkg -L <packagename>11:09
dettoill give it a try11:09
Jucatothoreauputic: he was wondering earlier about GUI apps that are frontends to CLI commands11:09
thoreauputicJucato: yes i know11:09
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thoreauputicdetto:  dpkg -L <packagename>  gives a full list of the files installed by a package11:10
Jucatoyes, but what I had in mind would be like Adept being a front-end to APT. so it won't be listed in Adept's package list11:10
Jucatoanyway... nvm11:11
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thoreauputicJucato: ah i see - in that case   apt-det depends adept  is useful11:11
thoreauputicbah   apt-get depends adept11:11
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thoreauputic***#$@ typos ....11:11
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BitOBearSo I have loaded the tor and privoxy packages but when I enable tor in Firefox it just gives me an error page... any thoughts?11:12
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thoreauputicstill wrong .. should be apt-cache depends adept , sorry11:12
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sergo_anybody knows how to connect evolution to egroupware?11:16
sergo_any plugins?11:16
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premier_does anyone here know how to make icons in konqueror to show movies?  Ive heard its possible11:20
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caris_mereIs there a way to put a link to a partition on the desktop, but not all partitions?11:21
atidemhi folks11:21
caris_merehi11:21
Jucatocaris_mere: try right-clicking on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to Device11:22
caris_merejucato: thanks11:22
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crazy_bus:( kubuntu is still losing system files11:27
peskyI got a new laptop today, how easy is it to get the HP function keys to work11:28
Antonio_Carlos_Mhi11:28
Antonio_Carlos_Mi have problems with KDEtv11:29
Antonio_Carlos_Mcan someone help?11:29
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atidempesky: what's the model?11:31
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dettolet me know if this isn't the best place to ask this question, but- I was looking at information on the programming languages Lua and Guile- why are there so many programming languages, and what is the difference between a programming language and scripting language?11:36
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Lynouredetto: yes, #ubuntu-offtopic would be a more suitable place.  But did you tried to find the answer already yourself?11:37
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Jucato!offtopic11:38
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:38
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Kite_DH!mp311:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:38
Lynouredetto: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_language is a mighty good starting place, and if you spend some time there, you'll prolly find the answers11:39
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AlllexHey everyone- I want to compile Java; how can I do that from the Konsole?11:40
cox377i've got this issue when connecting to a kubuntu share. basically when i connect frtom a windows machine it asks for user name and password giving me full read/write access however when i connect from another linx machine it goes straight in on the files but i can only read. how do i make it ask me for the user and pass like it does in windows?11:40
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Kite_DHguys11:42
Kite_DHi got a problem11:42
Kite_DHim on kubuntu 6.10 and i cant hear sounds11:42
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Kite_DHlike music or whatever11:42
Dekanshow can I have beryl at startup in KDE11:43
cox377Kite_DH: what sound card have u go?11:43
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DekansI launch beryl-manager but kwin is often selected by default11:43
cox377Kite_DH: run this in terminal to set up the sound card11:44
cox377Kite_DH: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base11:44
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Kite_DHALSA or OSS?11:45
Kite_DHit seems to be installed11:45
cox377Kite_DH: try one and see which one works11:46
Kite_DHbut i cant even use the volume control11:46
cox377Kite_DH: what do u mean?11:46
Kite_DHlike when i start Kmix11:46
Kite_DHi cant choose a device or so11:46
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Kite_DHnormally it says HDDI11:46
Kite_DHor something11:46
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cox377Kite_DH: is there any devices listed?11:47
Kite_DHno11:47
Kite_DHtheres nothing11:47
cox377Kite_DH: is it onboard?11:47
Kite_DHyes11:47
daleachhey guys I just installed xgl/compiz11:47
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daleachsome issues: kpanel is like frozen not working...11:48
daleachis kpanel still its own app i should see in ps | grep kpanel ?11:48
cox377does anyone here know more about configuring onboard sound cards11:49
cox377Kite_DH: i've always had it work straight out of the box for me11:49
Kite_DHyes i mean that11:49
Kite_DHsry11:49
Kite_DHi got pc boxes11:49
Jucatodaleach: the app/process name is "kicker"11:49
Kite_DHon the other user it works11:49
Kite_DHbut not here11:49
daleachthanks Jucato11:50
daleachhehe alt shift tab doens't go backwards (hehe not a biggie)11:50
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cox377Kite_DH: you mean when logged in under different users it works?11:50
Kite_DHyes11:51
Kite_DHwhen i logged into my account11:51
Kite_DHit works11:51
daleachand why does alt f2 which pops up the run command window.....get rid of all of my other apps (so weird)... i can still alt tab to them11:51
Kite_DHand now here on this one11:51
Kite_DHits not working11:51
Kite_DHno sound11:51
daleachi tried alt control left to see if they're on another part of the cube but they'rre not...11:51
Kite_DH00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High11:51
Kite_DH Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)11:51
cox377Kite_DH: so your logged into a differnet account?11:52
Kite_DHyes11:52
Kite_DHi am on the account which is not working11:52
cox377Kite_DH: sorry mate, your gonna have to ask someone like jucato for this prob11:52
Kite_DHJucato: did you read my problem?11:52
sampani'm no expert but it sounds like that account might just need to be added to the "sound" group?11:53
Kite_DHo.o11:53
Kite_DHwhere to do that11:53
JucatoI did.. but I'm no hardware person :(11:53
Jucato!sound11:53
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:53
Kite_DHits an admin account11:53
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thoreauputicKite_DH:  actually it's the "audio" group11:53
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daleachso this is strange...my kicker after killing and starting again gives me this... i stop at "examining file progress" source trash:/ 0%11:55
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daleachwhat's the deal with that thing11:55
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Kite_DHcox377: when i type in my konsole:  lspci -v    it says Capabilities: <access denied>11:56
Kite_DHcox377: at the ending11:56
Kite_DHof my soundcard entry11:57
sampankite_dh  thoreauputic is right it's the audio group.  system settings --> user management and then you can "audio" to the account's secondary groups (might be a cli way to do that too, but i'm unfamiliar)11:57
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sampanyou'll have to go into administrator mode of course11:57
Kite_DHthere is no group called audio or sound11:58
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thoreauputicKite_DH:  sudo adduser <yourusername> audio11:58
Kite_DHwait a seccond11:58
thoreauputicKite_DH: yes there is11:58
Kite_DHok wait11:58
thoreauputicKite_DH: you'll need to logout -in to make the cange effective11:58
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thoreauputic*change11:58
Kite_DHok brb11:58
sampanas usual the cli way is easier :D11:58
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inamhi all... i need some help in compiling grub-0.97... when i run "make", it says graphics.c not found. has someone worked on grub before?12:10
daleachi'm on dapper is it possible i can start migrating to edgy eft by putting the new sources in sources.list?12:10
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nickgraberhello12:11
elteseHas anyone here got around to try out Feisty?12:12
chavoeltese, been running feisty for a couple of weeks12:13
Tm_Teltese: Sure.12:13
dettodleach you can, but there's an easier way- sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade12:14
Tm_Teltese: Doing gallup?12:14
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dettodleach then once you do that do this: gksudo "update-manager -c -d"12:14
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daleachgksudo?12:16
daleachwhat's that12:16
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daleachoh i see12:17
nickgraberI use kdesu to run gui apps as root12:17
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dettoor kdesu12:18
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eltesechavo and tim_t: how does it work?12:18
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dettoI think there's another way to do it too with apt-get dist-upgrade12:19
HeavenquakeI have a wireless problem. Running Kubuntu Linux on other PC, I've just put in a wireless adapter PCI card. It is automatically recognized, and works fine. Wlassistant also recognizes my accesspoint. But when trying to connect to that accesspoint, it simply fails. It is unencrypted and is about 3 meters away. My laptop running Windows does fine, and I am asking via this one. Any help?12:19
elteseis it stable? Does it run fine?12:19
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daleachyeah not sure what apt-get dist-upgrade does really because when i do it i get 012:19
dettoHeavenquake is it dsl or cable? are you sure you don't need a pppoe connection with a name and password, or a WEP key?12:19
daleachbut i'll read al il in man thanks for the help with the manager thing12:19
dettodaleach I've also read you can just change all the dappers to edgy in sources.list then update upgrade from there too12:20
chavoeltese, runs great for me12:20
daleachah ok cool12:20
Heavenquakedetto: excuse me.. pppoe connection? name and password? there is no wep key or any other kind of encryption12:20
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paolociao a tutti12:21
dettoHeavenquake: unless you're using ADSL, you probably don't need it12:21
paoloho appena installato kubuntu12:21
Heavenquakedetto, I think it is ADSL12:21
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chavo!it12:22
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:22
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paoloce ne uno in italiano?12:22
dettoHeavenquake but you've never needed any kind of username and password for this access point?12:22
Heavenquakedetto: not once. All other machines, all running windows, in this house just connects to the unencrypted accesspoint.12:23
chavopaolo, #kubuntu-it o #ubuntu-it12:23
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dettoheavenquake- what's the card model?12:24
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Heavenquakedetto: it's a Belkin Wireless G Desktop PCI Card (that's the model name, more or less. No fancy letters/numbers on this one). In Network Settings it seems to work properly, though12:25
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dudubraziliansssss12:25
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duduanyone of Santa Catarina?12:26
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daleachi get authenticate '/tmp/tmp-Ql8Jn/edgy.tar.gz' against '/tmp/tmp-Ql8Jn/edgy.tar.gz.gpg'12:26
daleachcan't find DistUpgradeViewGtk12:26
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atadekudakeroHai12:27
atadekudakeroanyone from malaysia??12:27
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dettoheavenquake: do 'sudo pccardctl ident' in the terminal and tell me what it says12:28
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duduI'm almost from the malasya12:28
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atadekudakerohai dudu12:29
atadekudakerowhere u from?12:29
Heavenquakedetto: nothing12:29
tanlaanhello everyone12:29
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duduatadekudakero: hi , are you male or female?12:29
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dettoheavenquake: after that, type 'lshw' in the terminal and tell me what it says next to *-network (tell me if it says UNCLAIMED or DISABLED)12:29
hans...einen wunderschne Sonntag mittag!12:29
atadekudakerou m/f dudu?12:29
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snsalkhi12:30
tanlaanWhere can I change the setting of the resolution of the non X environments? *such as ctrl-alt-F1*12:30
hansDas Linux-Magazin ist ja auch frech... "Linux statt Vista!" schreiben die...12:30
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Heavenquakedetto: there are multiple *-network entries, with different numbers12:30
snsalkenglisch oder deutscher channel?12:31
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hansOh... i don't know how to change the resolution in console... sorry.12:31
thoreauputic!de12:31
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:31
snsalkthx12:31
dettoheavenquake: sudo lshw | grep network, tell me if there's anything written after 'network' on any of the lines12:32
snsalkcu12:32
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Heavenquakeit says: *-network [newline+indent]  *-network:0 [newline+indent]  *-network:112:34
dettohmmmm12:34
mefisto__I have a fsck problem that's preventing me from booting. On boot, it begins a fsck check, but before that it says "findfs: cannot resolve UUID=[the uuid of disk] . fsck fails to complete and a message says to run fsck manually, but I get the same cannot resolve uuid message when I do that12:35
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hansWie kann ich eigentlich mal im Netzwerk umherpingen, mal sehen welcher Rechner on ist?12:37
peskyi'm glad my new comp got through that fsck check it hung for a while12:37
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peskydoes centrino stuff work well with kubuntu?12:38
Heavenquakedetto: ran out of ideas? :(12:38
mefisto__I have a fsck problem that's preventing me from booting. On boot, it begins a fsck check, but before that it says "findfs: cannot resolve UUID=[the uuid of disk] . fsck fails to complete and a message says to run fsck manually, but I get the same cannot resolve uuid message when I do that12:38
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Victor_http://www.fourmigration.com/link.php?pid=15&cont=512:40
dettoheavenquake unfortunately, yes. I'll keep looking, but I'm leaving soon...12:41
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cpk1Heavenquake: can you connect to any networks?12:44
cpk1man I hate troubleshooting wireless but i can never seem to get enough of it12:44
Heavenquakecpk1, there is only one available accesspoint, and that is the same one that fails connection12:44
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cpk1Heavenquake: whats the device name? wlan0? eth1?12:45
Heavenquakecpk1: according to wlassistant, the one that recognizes accesspoints at all, is wlan012:46
cpk1oh, then i guess "iwlist wlan0 scan" gives results?12:47
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n4chtyay!  networking issues!  i heart those!12:47
Heavenquakecpk1: strangely, it returns "No scan results"12:48
n4chtHeavenquake: what kind of adapter is your wlan0?12:48
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Heavenquaken4cht: it's a PCI-card12:49
cpk1Heavenquake: that could be bad12:49
n4chthazard a guess at the chipset?12:49
cpk1Heavenquake: alright lshw and find the card12:49
georgianusHello, my amarok doesn't recognize any song in the collection, I scan it one time and another but the result is zero12:49
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n4chtsome prism chipset cards don't seem to respond to iwlist scans.12:49
georgianusI'm using SQlite, is it a good option?12:49
Heavenquakecpk1:  lshw returns 3 networking interfaces, and wlan0 is not one of them :/12:50
dettocpk1- you helped me yesterday get my wireless woking on my laptop, but I restarted and it won't work anymore! When I try 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper', it gives me the message "error inserting ndiswrapper: invalid argument." does this have something to do with me doing an update with apt-get you think?"12:50
cpk1detto: where you the one with the bcm43xx chipset?12:50
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dettoyes cpk112:50
cpk1Heavenquake: but you know the name of the device right? find the name of it12:50
Hoxxinhelp! i burned a data dvd with K3b and now i cant copy or read the files on the dvd, not in ubuntu or windows, just getting a parameter error :/12:50
cpk1detto: how did you end up getting the card to work?12:50
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cpk1detto: ndiswrapper or the linux drivers?12:50
dettondiswrapper12:51
Heavenquakecpk1: The name is not listed there, neither...12:51
n4chtdangit.  i'm really growing to hate this artsd crash bug.12:51
peskyso i am in the middle of the installation for edgy trying to resize my windows partition and it says...qtparted-filesystem check failed! Totally 1cluster accounting mismatches.12:51
peskywhat does that mean?12:51
cpk1Heavenquake: so you have 3 network devices other than your wireless card?12:51
n4chtpesky: did you defrag the drive first?12:51
peskyno, its a brand new computer12:52
peskyit does say active for the status of the windows partition12:52
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Heavenquakecpk1: Hmm... There is an onboard LAN-thing, but that've never worked. Then I've got a PCI lan-card too, that works, I've got the wireless card that we're trying to make work, but I can't figure out what the last one is12:53
zorglu_!info bridge-utils12:53
ubotubridge-utils: Utilities for configuring the Linux ethernet bridge. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1-1 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 148 kB12:53
cpk1Heavenquake: pastebin your lshw output, all of it12:53
n4chtyou should always defrag regardless of the age of the drive.  brand new or not, there's still a chance for a number of problems like bad sectors, and installation fragments.  a lot of times the mfg's don't defrag after installing the crucial security updates/service packs before they ship the system.12:53
Heavenquakecpk1: okay, hang on then12:53
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peskyn4cht: thanks i will try that ;)12:54
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dettocpk1 ndiswrapper drivers- now modprobe won't let me load the new driver- is there a way I can check to see if ndiswrapper was updated when I did a full upgrade in adept?12:55
n4chtdetto: instead of ndiswrapper, you might also want to consider the linux-wlan-ng package.  that works like a charm for a lot of wireless adapters, and after installing the package and modprobe -r ndiswrapper, it starts at boot and 'just works'.   your adapter might be supported by that package.12:55
n4chtdetto: sudo ndiswrapper -l    make sure your adapter's driver didn't get uninstalled during an upgrade also.12:56
cpk1detto: dmesg | grep ndiswrapper see if there is anything usefull in there12:56
dettoit's still there n4cht12:56
Heavenquakecpk1: http://www.pastebin.ca/361882  -- I have to go for lunch, will be right back12:57
cpk1hrmm ok well its 4 am for me so i cant make any promises i'll be here12:57
dettocpk1 no, it just has the failed attempts from the past 5 or 6 minutes12:58
n4chthas anyone had the problem with artsd crashing, and whining about CPU overload?   i tried google, and came up with a lot of people with the same problem, but not a single solution.  (aside from upgrading to 3.5.5, but that's what I'm already running.)12:58
cpk1Heavenquake:  product: RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI thats your wireless card12:58
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cpk1same card I have which I havent bothered to get working yet12:59
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cpk1n4cht: get 3.5.612:59
n4chtcpk1: is it in the repos now?12:59
cpk1yup12:59
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cpk1use !easysource to add the right ones12:59
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cpk1detto: and you didnt set it so ndiswrapper starts on boot?01:00
n4cht!easysource01:00
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ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:01
dettocpk1 I did01:01
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cpk1detto: did you compile ndiswrapper yourself?01:01
dettocpk1 and it did start I suppose, but it probably sent the same error I've been getting when it tried to load the driver01:01
dettocpk1 yes01:01
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cpk1detto: did you get a kernel update after compiling it?01:01
vince_Hi everybody, I would like to test kubuntu feisty. Could someone tell me what the "official" way to upgrade from 6.10 is ? Is it the same as from 6.06 to 6.10 ?01:01
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Hoxxinim in big trouble and need help. i made a backup copy with k3b and was gonna copy the data to a windows machine, all files are on the dvd but i cant paste them into windows or ubuntu01:01
dettocpk1 yes I did01:02
ubuntuHi Guys01:02
cpk1detto: cat /proc/version and then modinfo ndiswrapper01:02
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dettocpk1 linux version 2.6.17-11-generic, ndiswrapper vermagic: 2.6.17.11-generic01:03
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dettothe linux version does say gcc version 4.1.2, while ndiswrapper says gcc-4.1 cpk101:03
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ubuntuSome Questions, ive got 3 harddrives, one with Xp installed, named sda, one just for Xp Tools, named hda and the third is hdb with ubuntu01:04
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cpk1detto: i would say recompile or do the easy thing and uninstall what you compiled and use the repos01:05
ubuntuThe Installation was Succesfull, but when i Reboot after the Installation there's no GRUB ?01:05
ubuntuso i can't use Ubuntu01:05
dettocpk1- the thing is I don't have any access aside from wireless ;) I'll recompile it though01:05
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n4chthahaha. i generate the sources.list from source-o-matic, and have 92 kde related updates instantly.01:07
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ubuntuwhat can i do to make GRUB Loaden when i'm Rebootin my System after the Installation ?01:07
cpk1yeah you miss some nice things without the kde specific repos and backports01:07
dettocpk1 that worked! thanks01:08
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cpk1no problem01:08
n4chtcpk1: no kidding!   i didn't even know about the backport repos.  those make me happy.01:09
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ubuntuso is there help 4 me , anyway? anybody ?01:10
n4chttoday i shall do what i've always wanted to do;  resize my ubuntu partition to occupy my entire drive.   now that i have all of my games and apps working perfectly with wine, i no longer need windows -at all-.01:10
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peskyn4cht: thats great, stick it to M$01:10
cpk1hooray n4cht01:11
cpk1dualbooting is annoying anyways01:11
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peskyindeed, aparently i can run 2 operating systems at once with dual core, i hope thats the case01:12
n4chtthe one game i was most concerned with being able to play was World of Warcraft.  I got it working flawlessly with wine, and even have a super-improved framerate.    i guess it's because i'm not using an OS that devours almost all of my system resources just idling.01:12
cpk1actually windows always has to use 100% of the cpu01:12
adydashow did you find wine to get going?01:12
cpk1i find wiine to be really easy01:13
peskyyea it nearly always comes up with an error for most apps, i guess i need to configure it better or something01:13
adydasive allways wanted to have a play with it, but never got any further than that01:13
n4chtcpk1: i noticed that recently.  system idle processes always eats up every bit of available cpu time, but never reports it as 100% usage.  weird.01:13
n4chtwindows is just poorly designed, i think.01:14
Chousukethat's because it doesn't really eat up the cpu :P01:14
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n4chti'll be glad when i'm rid of it.01:14
Chousukeit's just there to show you how much of it is idle.01:14
Heavenquakecpk1: I am back.01:14
cpk1Heavenquake: you have an airlink pci card right?01:14
ChousukeAnd Windows isn't poorly designed, either. The implementation just could be better. :)01:15
n4chtChousuke: i'd assume that if it's idling at that cpu usage, it's processing -something-, even if it's a billion blank lines.01:15
Chousuken4cht: it's not using the cpu01:15
peskyChousuke: M$ are friends with intel so they don't mind making an OS that rapes the CPU, gives people a good reason to buy a faster CPU, which happens to be mainly intels atm01:15
Heavenquakecpk1: It's a Belkin01:15
cpk1hrmm ok well we have the same chipset unless you have 2 wireless cards?01:15
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n4chtpesky: which is partly why i only purchase from AMD.01:15
ChousukeI mean, it would be downright idiotic to consume 100% of CPU all the time01:16
cpk1except amd is in bed with ati01:16
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Heavenquakecpk1: I seriously doubt I've got 2 wireless cards01:16
peskywell :( today i bought an intel core 2 duo, i had to for battery life, i have always gone amd, this is my first intel pc01:16
Chousukeand no matter what you think of Windows, assuming the implementers are so bad that they would allow such a thing is a bit drastic.01:17
cpk1Heavenquake: ok, then good news, we both have the same chipset01:17
n4chtcpk1: i've never used an ati card before.  i hear they're 'alright', but i've been more than pleased with all of the nvidia cards i've had.  heck, my old GeForce3 Ti500 with 64mb could run circles around a lot of newer cards.01:17
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cpk1Heavenquake: bad news: I have been too damn lazy to get it working yet since I havent needed wireless on my desktop yet01:17
ChousukeOr well01:18
n4chti moved the GeForce 3 over to the wife's gaming computer, and she gets the same fps that i do.01:18
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Heavenquakecpk1: which means?01:18
cpk1Heavenquake: we get to learn together!01:18
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zorglu_:)01:19
n4chtkde update is at 93%.  in the next couple of minutes i'll be restarting X and trying out 3.5.601:19
peskysilly kde-look doesn't have wxga wallpapers01:19
cpk1Heavenquake: "lspci -n" and then find the line that starts with 01:06.001:19
n4chti hope this arts update fixes this bug.01:19
cpk1is arts getting updated?01:19
n4chtcpk1: thankfully, yes.01:20
adydaswinecfg sets up wine yes no?01:20
n4chtadydas: yes.01:20
cpk1yes01:20
adydasand if that fails...01:20
n4chtquite well, i might add.01:20
cpk1winecfg wont fail01:20
n4chtit doesn't fail.  it just writes to your wine conf in .wine01:21
adydasroot@desktop:/home/adydas# winecfg01:21
adydasXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server01:21
cpk1first dont do winecfg as root01:21
adydasim following some help file01:21
Heavenquakecpk1: 01:06:0 0280: 1814:030101:21
cpk1nothing about wine needs root01:21
adydasit suggested it incase it needed it01:21
adydas"Also, did you try running it as root? Maybe it is trying to establish a call that requires that sort of access.Also, did you try running it as root? Maybe it is trying to establish a call that requires that sort of access."01:22
cpk1Heavenquake: whats the name of your card?01:22
cpk1wine doesnt need root01:22
n4chtadydas: don't do that.   following "some help file" is generally not a good idea unless it's on one of the ubuntu forums, and even then i'd double check it a couple times.    google for "wow wine ubuntu"01:22
n4cht!worksforme01:22
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.01:22
Heavenquakecpk1: Belkin Wireless G Desktop Network Card01:22
adydasn4cht: yes it is a ubuntuforums thread01:22
n4chtadydas: like i said.. double check it.  find other related threads.   there should be absolutely no reason or time that one would need to run anything wine-related as root.01:23
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n4chtheck, i find running anything that doesn't specifically ask for root access to be a bad idea in general.01:24
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n4cht(running as root, that is.)01:24
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Heavenquakecpk1: ?01:26
cpk1Heavenquake: like I said I have the same chipset as you but havent done anything with it yet so I have to figure it all out as we go here01:27
adydaswell ill be dammed01:27
n4chtadydas:  worked properly when not run as root?01:27
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n4chthold that thought!  time to restart kde!01:28
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adydasPerfectly..01:29
adydasim amazed01:29
mefisto__the kde panel crashes every time I click on the K menu. What can I try to fix this?01:29
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n4chthm.  no arts crash.01:31
n4chttime to see if the sound system is even turned on.01:31
dettoon my new laptop, the graphics "skip" a bit when I scroll, like it's not scrolling smoothly... anyone know what may cause this01:32
n4chtit wasn't.  and arts still crashed.01:32
Heavenquakecpk1: well, I for one knows very little of the inner working of a network-card, so I hope you know that much more01:32
cpk1Heavenquake: give me a second I think i almost have it working01:33
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n4chtweird.01:33
n4chtwhen i select oss, it doesn't crash.01:33
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n4chtawesome.  it works.  i have my kde sounds and everything.01:34
n4chti wonder, then, if the root of the problem is alsa?01:34
adz21cHi,01:35
adz21cI am on a machine running dapper, when I boot up most of the time it fails to launch X, the only error i can see in the logs is "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy", the file doesn't exist, where would I get this file?01:36
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peskysweet even my media remote works default :D01:39
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adydasSo where does wine put stuff?01:39
n4cht~/.wine01:39
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cpk1Heavenquake: also, make sure you have build-essential installed01:40
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xenolplz how can i reconfigure java?01:41
Heavenquakecpk1: What for?01:41
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cpk1Heavenquake: drivers01:42
zorglu_!java | xenol01:42
ubotuxenol: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository01:42
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peskyn4cht:I defragged the HDD but i still can't resize it :(01:43
xenolzorglu_:  well i have installed but i also have GNU java and sun and i want to configure alternatives -java01:43
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n4chtpesky: weird.01:43
zorglu_xenol: reading the page will provide the solution01:43
dettoevery time I move anything around, there's this invisible line that goes from the top of the screen to the bottom, it takes about a second to go all the way through, which changes the screen. this happens every time I move a window or scroll- is this a graphics driver problem?01:43
Heavenquakecpk1: how do you propose I install build-essential without access to the internet?01:43
adydasha, stink01:43
mefisto__anyone know why clicking on the kmenu would crash the panel?01:44
cpk1Heavenquake: I was assuming you have a wired connection since it has 2 other nics01:44
zorglu_mefisto__: it is not supposed to, aka it is a bug01:44
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xenolzorglu_:  so sudo apt-get install java-gcj-compat to install GNU java?01:45
mefisto__zorglu_: it was working fine a few hours ago01:45
zorglu_mefisto__: oh this is good info01:45
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zorglu_mefisto__: what have you done during the last hours ?01:45
Heavenquakecpk1: trouble is that the hub/switch for LAN-cables goes in the other end of the house, and that one long cable goes from there and to the accesspoint here.01:46
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xenolplz how can i enable audio/video preview in konqueror? which packages do i need for it?01:47
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mefisto__zorglu_: I installed wine. using it locked everything up, so I gave up and removed wine01:47
cpk1hrmm well let me see what the dependencies for build essential are01:48
adydasim just tooting with wine at the moment01:48
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adydasits semi impressive01:48
mefisto__adydas: could you get any audio using wine?01:49
adz21c_hi, i am on a machine running dapper and sometimes X failed to start, I checked the logs and only error i see is this "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy", where can i get this file?01:49
adydasmefisto__: Just trying, all ive done so far is install a non sound based program to playings sake01:49
mefisto__adydas: let me know if you get any sound out of anything01:50
adydasALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory01:51
cpk1Heavenquake: hrmm it looks like the build-essential dependencies might start to get a little out of hand01:51
cpk1anyone know if the live cd has build-essential?01:51
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Jucatocpk1: it doesn't01:51
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cpk1well that is awfully inconvenient01:52
SolidSource!icq01:52
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adydasmefisto__: apparantly it also sucks to be me with no sound01:52
cpk1Jucato: so how to compile drivers for a network card on a box without net?01:52
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Jucatocpk1: I don't know01:53
mefisto__adydas: did you try configuring anything? that is, winecfg?01:53
Heavenquakecpk1: I bet I'm screwed01:53
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cpk1Heavenquake: is there another computer using ubuntu?01:54
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Heavenquakecpk1: This one, my laptop, dualboots between Windows(which I'm on right now) and gNewSense, which i can't use due to, guess what, wireless-trouble!01:55
cpk1Heavenquake: the livecd should have make and and the kernel headers01:55
cpk1which apparently is enough01:55
cpk1Heavenquake: you have a livecd right?01:56
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Heavenquakecpk1: I have Knoppix somewhere around, as well as Kubuntu Edgy yes01:56
cpk1we need the edgy cd01:56
adydassheer intrest here, is a linux machine using wine to run a program that windows would get spyware from able to be vunreble to the same types of issues?01:56
Heavenquakecpk1: right here01:57
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Zazaanyone know encryption well here ?01:57
Ace2016Hi all01:57
Heavenquakecpk1: is there anything I should do before booting it?01:57
Ace2016what do i have to install to be able to play 3gp files?01:57
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adydasarnt they vodafone cellphone files?01:58
Ace2016i have mplayer and w32codecs but it says there is a proble with the audioo01:58
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cpk1Heavenquake: you dont boot it, hang on i am discussing this with some other people, we are arguing01:58
Ace2016adydas: yea its for phones01:58
ZazaWhere is a good source for drive encryption advise please ?01:58
Ace2016but i want to watch them01:58
adz21c_hi, i am on a machine running dapper and sometimes X failed to start, I checked the logs and only error i see is this "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy", where can i get this file? would this even be the cause of my problems? If that's the case then why does it do it intermitantly?01:59
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mefisto__Ace2016: I can watch and hear them with real player 1002:00
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mefisto__Ace2016: mplayer plays them too, but with no sound02:01
MattF1 question from a noob chaps, whats the difference between the live CD and the DVD? Whats on the DVD thats not on the CD?02:01
cpk1Heavenquake: alright sorry for the wait02:02
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Heavenquakecpk1: It's allright02:02
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cpk1Heavenquake: alright mount the edgy cd and then run "apt-cdrom add" also please tell me you have a usb key or even a floppy drive to get the drivers over to the desktop02:04
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cpk1Heavenquake: actually dont think you need the add part02:05
Heavenquakecpk1: I have a usbflashdisc02:05
Heavenquakecpk1: nonetheless the cdrom is now added to apt-get02:06
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cpk1Heavenquake: alright aptitude install build-essential02:06
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Heavenquakecpk1: seems to be successfull02:08
cpk1Heavenquake: http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/data/RT61_Linux_STA_Drv1.1.0.0.tar.gz thats the link for the driver02:08
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slow-motionhallo02:10
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peskyhi02:10
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Heavenquakecpk1: Now i have the tar.gz file on the machine in question. Then what?02:11
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cpk1Heavenquake: untar it to source/wireless or wherever you want02:12
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Heavenquakecpk1: done02:12
cpk1Heavenquake: cd into the module directory wherever you untarred it to02:13
cpk1hooray looks like mine works02:14
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Heavenquakecpk1: per@desktop:~/System/Wireless_Driver/Module$02:16
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cpk1Heavenquake: what kernel you running?02:17
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Heavenquakecpk1: I'm not sure. The one that goes with Kubuntu Edgy Eft..02:17
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cpk12.602:17
sgalalHello All02:17
cpk1Heavenquake: do cp Makefile.6 Makefile02:18
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Heavenquakecpk1: done02:18
guidenis there a new version of kubuntu out there?02:18
Hobbseeguiden: only edgy02:18
guidenhow do I know which one I have?02:18
cpk1Heavenquake: then sudo mkdir -p /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/ and please remember caps matter02:18
cpk1oh whoops dont forget make all from /System/Wireless_Driver/Module hehe =P02:19
cpk1getting tired over here02:19
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sgalalI have a question about setting up GLUT for compiling things.02:20
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Heavenquakecpk1: Now you made me confused :-P What exactly must I do?02:20
sgalal Using Kubuntu Edgy Eft. Even though I installed "Freeglut3" I still get "hw1.cpp:(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `glClear'" etc.02:20
cpk1Heavenquake: from inside the Module directory do make all02:21
sgalalHad this error before, but forgot how I dealt with it. It's probably straighforward. My apologies02:21
sgalal(Compiling with -lGL -lGLU -lglut)02:21
Heavenquakecpk1: done. Then what?02:22
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Jucatosgalal: did you install freeglut3-dev?02:23
cpk1Heavenquake: sudo mkdir -p /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/ and please remember caps matter02:23
sgalalYes. Then I went crazy and installed a whole bunch of random *-dev packages as well02:23
sgalalmesa and xlib02:24
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FontemouriscaHi, i have a ASUS P5B dlx motherboard and Edgy Eft does not recognize the "onboard" sound card, is the a way to solve this problem?02:24
sgalalit still doesn't work. It's like it isn't finding the .h file. the gl functions are missing, as are glu and glut02:24
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sgalalI start off with #include <GL/gl.h> #include <GL/glu.h> #include <GL/glut.h> #include <math.h>02:25
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Heavenquakecpk1: also done02:25
Jucatonot really sure... what are you trying to compile? you might need more specialized help and might not be a Kubuntu issue02:25
Jucatosgalal: ^^02:25
Jucatosgalal: also tried libglut3-dev?02:26
sgalal:) I see02:26
sgalalI'm trying to compile a simple GLUT example I was given in class02:26
sgalalI ran it on the lab computers and it's basically a bunch of lines drawn all around the screen02:26
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sgalal@Jucato, I don't think I have libglut3-dev installed02:27
cpk1Heavenquake:cp rt2561.bin /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/ cp rt2561s.bin /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/ cp rt2661.bin /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/02:27
sgalalTHe comment on it said it had been replaced by freeglut302:27
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cpk1Heavenquake: you will need sudo for those02:27
cpk1Heavenquake: cp rt61sta.dat  /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat and that02:28
Jucatosgalal: ah true...02:28
Heavenquakecpk1: would loggin in as # be preferably?02:28
sgalalI'm giving it a shot now02:28
Jucatosgalal: not really sure what else to do...02:28
sgalalI shall go and check whether the glut library developers have a forum somewhere :)02:29
cpk1Heavenquake: i dont care how you do it =P02:29
sgalalThanks and ciao02:29
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Heavenquakecpk1: done02:30
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Heavenquakecpk1: or... What was that .dat thing?02:31
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cpk1Heavenquake: cp that as well02:31
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cpk1Heavenquake: and then sudo cp rt61.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/02:32
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Heavenquakecpk1: `/etc/Wireless/RT6STA/rt61sta.dat': Not a directory02:32
SkrotHow can I find the ID of a window?02:32
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johny_!help02:33
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:33
cpk1Heavenquake: copy it from the module directory02:33
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cpk1and /etc/Wireless/RT6STA/ better be a directory because thats what you cp'd everything else to02:33
Heavenquakecpk1: it worked now02:35
Heavenquakecpk1: forgot a 102:35
Heavenquakecpk1: and the next command is done too02:35
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cpk1Heavenquake: sudo depmod02:36
johny_!search Movix02:36
ubotuFound:02:36
Heavenquakecpk1: done02:36
johny_!search easy02:36
ubotuFound: easysource, bzr, repos, newton, easysources, easyubuntu, vmware, alcarte02:36
dettowhats the terminal text editor??02:37
hyper_chhow can I make usbfs use instead of visor?02:37
Heavenquakedetto: vi/vim, emacs, nano, joe etc...02:37
dettothamks02:38
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Ace2016mefisto__: Thanks02:38
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mefisto__Ace2016: np. so it works with realplayer?02:38
johny_Has someone already installed "fbdev" on Kubuntu?02:39
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Ace2016mefisto__: i thanked you for the info, but i haven't installed realplayer yet, its not in my repos for some reason02:39
cpk1Heavenquake: you know how to use vim at all?02:39
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Heavenquakecpk1: I know enough to code some php with it.02:40
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Ace2016bye all02:40
mefisto__Ace2016: http://www.real.com/linux02:41
cpk1Heavenquake: ok you can change some parameters of the card by editing some file, so sudo vi -b /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat since it only takes ascii02:41
cpk1or  kdesu "kate --encoding ISO-8859-15 /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat" if you want to use kate02:41
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johny_!fbdev02:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fbdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:42
hyper_ch!usbfs02:42
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Heavenquakecpk1: what needs to be changed?02:42
cpk1Heavenquake: anyways, lets get rid of the old broken driver: sudo modprobe --remove rt61pci02:43
cpk1Heavenquake: and then load the new one modprobe rt61 (start praying)02:44
Heavenquakecpk1: removed02:44
cpk1those both need sudo most likely02:44
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Heavenquakecpk1: modprobe rt61 returns void. I suppose this means success as void usually means?02:44
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cpk1yeah02:45
Heavenquakecpk1: then what?02:45
cpk1iwconfig should now have ra002:45
johny_!search kernell02:45
ubotuFound:02:45
johny_!search kernel02:45
ubotuFound: kernel, kqemu, kernelcompile, generic, bigiron, custom kernel, server, edgykernel*, headers, kernel-source02:45
Heavenquakecpk1: ra0                 no wireless extensions02:45
cpk1Heavenquake: then black list the old driver add 'blacklist rt61pci' at the bottom of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist (no quotes)02:46
Heavenquakecpk1: :wq02:47
cpk1yes thats how you write out in vi =P02:47
cpk1and then echo 'rt61' | sudo tee -a /etc/modules and echo 'alias ra0 rt61' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/aliases to get the other one to start on boot02:48
dettoi messed up02:48
dettohttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29 i followd these instructions and now i have no graphics, but i still have the terminal02:49
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cpk1Heavenquake: still with me?02:49
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Heavenquakecpk1: yes. 2 seconds02:50
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Heavenquakecpk1: what should the first command return? (the echo 'rt61' | sudo tee ...)02:50
cpk1rt6102:51
Heavenquake"tee: /etc/modules/: Is a directory [newline]  rt61"02:51
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cpk1i guess thats close enough =P02:53
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Heavenquakecpk1: now the other command's done too02:54
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cpk1alright time to put into /etc/network/interfaces open that file up at put this in it02:55
cpk1iface ra0 inet dhcp02:55
cpk1auto ra002:55
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olstahi02:56
cpk1morning02:56
BluesKajhowdy all :)02:56
Heavenquakecpk1: :wq02:56
olstahow can i install my x 1800 under kubuntu?02:56
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cpk1Heavenquake: actually i should have mentioned tahts if you plan on using dhcp =P02:57
BluesKajolsta, x1800 ?02:57
cpk1but I need to sleep right after this so errors like that will happen02:57
olstai install the fglrx package from the rep and now?02:57
Heavenquakecpk1: I'm quite sure that it's dhcp I want02:57
cpk1Heavenquake: so now theoretically it should work02:57
cpk1but it doesnt for me =S02:57
cpk1i think its because I need to know the AP02:57
BluesKajolsta, the binary ati pkg ?02:58
olstayes from the rep02:58
cpk1Heavenquake: /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat go back to that file and fill in the correct information the readme in the module folder explains the values02:58
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olstamust i edit the xorg.conf?02:58
Heavenquakecpk1: woooooow... something went terribly wrong somewhere... I run wlassistant, which shuts down immediately due to "no usable wireless devices found""02:58
BluesKaj!pastebin02:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:59
cpk1Heavenquake: you need to bring it up first, but before you that edit /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat with your essid and network type and whatnot02:59
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cpk1before you do that*02:59
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olstacan someone help me?02:59
BluesKajolsta, type 'fglrxinfo' in the terminal paste the output in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/03:00
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vrkhansdoes there any way i can install Kubuntu from command prompt03:00
Heavenquakecpk1: Now I'm lost... What should I write in the file?03:00
cpk1vrkhans: sure is, use aptitude if you already have ubuntu installed03:00
BluesKaj!kubuntu-install03:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:00
BluesKaj!install03:01
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues03:01
cpk1Heavenquake: whats your ssid?03:01
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cpk1Heavenquake: what channel is the ap using? and is it ad-hoc or infrastructure?03:01
KratorGah, I just installed kubuntu for the first time (first time I try linux too) - and now I spend 2 hours disabling features I don't need.03:01
olstaBluesKaj: its by my friend about the phone he told me something with mesa03:02
Heavenquakecpk1: I seriously don't know03:02
cpk1Heavenquake: also what channels does your country use?03:02
olstahe must edit the xorg.conf?03:02
cpk1Heavenquake: wahts the name of your network?03:02
Heavenquakecpk1: normally in wlassistant it says "WLAN"03:03
cpk1hrmm03:03
cpk1ok well we can see if it works without editing any of that stuff ( i doubt it) do sudo ifup ra0 and then try wlassistant again03:03
frootstripehi - recently i've been getting this msg when i update/upgrade --  W: Couldn't stat source package list -- i tried apt-get update but that didn't help03:04
cpk1also, I know nothing about wlassistant03:04
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BluesKajolsta , it depends on what he is trying to do  with fglrx driver ...he wants higher resolution on his screen ?03:04
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BluesKajor is it you , olsta ?03:05
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Heavenquakecpk1: .. I'm online!03:06
cpk1Heavenquake: I have to say even though I havent gotten it working yet it seems I am pleased with the results so far, last time i tried getting this card to work it locked me up03:07
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cpk1Heavenquake: it worked for you?03:07
olstahe want 3d support03:07
Heavenquakecpk1: It worked. I don't know how, it just worked. Said "Connection failed", and then suddenly just worked nevertheless03:08
cpk1Heavenquake: do me a favor and do iwlist scan and see if it scans for you03:09
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Heavenquakecpk1: ra0 returns some stuff.03:09
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cpk1Heavenquake: other networks?03:09
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Heavenquake"interface doesn't support scanning" on the lot03:10
cpk1Heavenquake: so it says ra0 doesnt support scanning?03:10
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Heavenquakecpk1: no, ra0 is the only one that does, it seems. "scan completed"03:11
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d34l3rhi all03:12
cpk1Heavenquake: and shows information about other networks?03:12
d34l3rneed some help I get this error when running Beryl and when i try to start glxgears: d34l3r@home:~$ glxgears03:12
d34l3rXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:12
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Heavenquakecpk1: 2 seconds, I'll pastebin the result03:12
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Heavenquakecpk1: http://www.pastebin.ca/36203503:13
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cpk1Heavenquake: yeah looks like it can do scans, thanks guess I have some more work to do to get mine to work03:14
d34l3r... Heavenquake03:14
snikkeris possible to set the home dir when i lunch kdesu?03:14
d34l3rmay u help me, too ?03:14
cpk1Heavenquake: but hey at least yours works now, I dont really need mine =P03:14
Heavenquakecpk1: and there was much rejoice03:15
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fritzhey guys how do I enable my 6600 pci-e video card03:15
angasule!nvidia | fritz03:15
ubotufritz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:15
cpk1Heavenquake: sorry it took so long but I was learning as I was going too =)03:16
fritzinvidia03:16
cpk1even though I own the chipset i had never bothered trying it03:16
d34l3rgot some Problem when running Beryl / glxgears: d34l3r@home:~$ glxgears03:16
d34l3rXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:16
d34l3r<< ATi RADEON 9600 XT03:16
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d34l3r+ xorg-driver-fglrx03:16
mefisto__whenever I click the application menu, the panel crashes. anyone have any ideas?03:17
cpk1Heavenquake: can you do me a a favor and pastebin the contents of /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat03:18
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tudzaI have a question about using krdc03:19
weathermanhi, what's a program to perform floating point decimal binary conversion?03:19
Heavenquakecpk1: 2 seconds03:20
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Heavenquakecpk1: http://www.pastebin.ca/36204003:22
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cpk1thanks03:22
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Heavenquakecpk1: and before I forget it: thank you very, very much for your help03:22
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cpk1Heavenquake: no problem, now its time for me to crawl into bed =P03:22
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KratorWhee, it works.03:23
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Heavenquakecpk1: sleep well03:23
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KratorI have just installed kubuntu, and this machine runs windows too. Do I have to install my video card drivers again?03:25
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ChaffinchKrator: depends what video card you have03:26
KratorGeForce 7600 GS ?03:26
HeavenquakeKrator: Propably... try running "glxgears" in Konsole, to see how good the gears are running03:26
angasule!nvidia | Krator03:27
ubotuKrator: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:27
Kratoryea, I saw that section, and I wondered if it applied to me :)03:27
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fritz what ubuntu has and kubuntu must be different03:27
KratorHm, this is weird. Every time I click a link from here it attempts to re-load firefox.03:27
fritzI cant follow the directions they give me03:28
fritzwhy dont they give directs for people that use kubunto?03:28
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Kratorokay, I see some running gears. What do they tell me?03:28
fritzI got to managing repositories03:29
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fritzthe rest is so different I cant see what they are talking about03:29
fritzthey want me to check 'restricted' and I dont have that option, at least its not where they say it is03:30
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Kratorfritz: I'm doing about the same now, and it's working without doing that part03:32
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Kratoralthough it's downloading 293M of files now :S03:33
fritzI see the full upgrade option. Do I do that?03:33
KratorI think I clicked that button03:34
fritzok03:34
Kratornot sure anymore03:34
johny_hey. Does someone of you use console unrar to extract files?03:34
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Blued0ghey, does anyone know aything about xirc behind a firewall or proxy?03:36
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Blued0ggaim works fine, as does mirc in windows, but xirc connects and doesnt receive or send messages03:36
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Jucatojohny_: unrar x filename.rar03:38
Jucatobbl...03:38
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BluesKajBlued0g, why bother with a fw or proxy , this is linux , unless yer on an office system ?03:39
jaaroodoes ubuntu support LCD displays with pivoting? I would like to buy one and wonder if ubuntu can do resolution switching automatically.03:39
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johny_Jucato: thanks, I knew it -:). The problem is I can't extract a multi file archive like (r00, r01) ecc.03:39
jhutchinsBluesKaj: Linux systems get hacked.03:39
BluesKajBlued0g, konverstion is easier to use03:40
jhutchinsBluesKaj: Especially if you're not a security ninja, like maybe you're new to linux?03:40
Kratorthe command "sudo nvidea-xconfig" gives a ' not found'  error03:40
fritzwow, 235 mb03:40
jhutchinsA minimal box running ipchains makes a great firewall.03:40
BluesKajI'm behind a router , i guess that helps , jhutchins03:40
jhutchinsBluesKaj: Best if it's a seperate box from your main system.03:40
jhutchinsSo'm I.03:40
Kratorfritz: I cancelled it03:41
jhutchinsThat was pretty much my first linux project03:41
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fritzhey man did you download the nvidia driver?03:41
jaarooKrator: nvidea? try nvidia instead :)03:41
Kratoraarg.03:42
BluesKajso jhutchins , you recommend that ppl with modems use FW and AV software in linux03:42
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Kratorok, that gives an error too03:42
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fritzcause I thinkyou will get that error if it is not downloaded03:42
Kratorunable to load nvidea kernel driver03:42
Kratornvidia*03:42
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jhutchinsBluesKaj: Um, a plain modem, no, you probably don't need a full firewall.03:44
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jhutchinsBluesKaj: AV only if you share with windows systems.03:44
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krillehello, i wounder if there is any swedish IRC channel for ubuntu?03:45
krillekubuntu i mean03:45
Jucato!se03:46
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se03:46
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BluesKajKrator, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all&keywords=nVidia&sourceid=mozilla-search03:46
dromerhi, I'm trying to make a bootfloppy, but when i format the froppy with fdformat /dev/fd0 I get: Could not determine current format type: No such device03:46
dromerfroppy=floppy :P03:46
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BluesKajyeah, jhutchins , we have windows pc on the network but it's also behind the router , and we use AVG on it03:47
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KratorBluesKaj: ok, one of the files there is what I just installed. Which other one do I need?03:48
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Schuenemannhi, what is the difference between the CD and DVD version?03:48
rylasasin_hi all whats up?03:48
BluesKajKrator, for ?03:49
KratorMaking my nvidia drivers work?03:49
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KratorHad downloaded Package nvidia-glx via Adept03:50
BluesKajSchuenemann, the dvd comes with pkgs from the repos already loaded03:50
Schuenemannhumm03:50
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BluesKajKrator, you said the glxgears cmd in the terminal works ?03:51
Kratoryes03:51
Kratorand it shows some gears03:51
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Krator(but when it does, all other gfx things are really slow, though)03:51
Jucatoglxinfo | grep render03:51
SchuenemannBluesKaj, is that ISO generated periodically as those packages get new releases?03:51
BluesKajdoes the box turn as well, krator , or just gears /03:51
Jucatoglxinfo | grep direct03:52
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thomas_salut a tous03:52
thomas_j'ai besoin d'aide03:52
Schuenemann!fr03:52
thomas_il y a un francais ici ?03:52
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:52
Kratorjust the gears as far as I can see.03:52
BluesKajSchuenemann, not sure , i would imagine so03:52
Schuenemannhmm I guess I'll stick with the CD03:52
BluesKajthen you don't have DRI set up , Krator..hang on03:53
jhutchinsKrator: What some people miss is that if you run glxgears in a console window, you get information on the framerate there.03:53
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BluesKajKrator, http://www.albertomilone.com/latest_nvidia_udsf_edgy.html03:54
fritzcan somebody help with my nvidia driver?03:54
Kratorfritz: still trying the same as you03:55
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fritzyeah, man. I have a very fast pc and it locked up on my while installing the upgrades03:55
angasule!games03:56
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org03:56
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KratorBluesKaj, that website worked, until it tried to make me do ' sudo nvidia-xconfig'03:57
fritzLinux is cool and all, but getting it setup is real pain03:57
Kratorwhich gave a ' command not found'03:57
mefisto__whenever I click the application menu, the panel crashes. anyone have any ideas?03:59
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angasuleubuntugames.org is down? or doesn't exist?03:59
Vincent_kquick question: can anyone recommend and hdd based mp3 player that's compatible with linux04:00
biohazard# ubuntu.pl04:00
biohazard#ubuntu04:00
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fritzipod04:00
fritzsandisk04:00
Vincent_kI got the impression that ipod is a pain04:01
fritzit is when you try to mess with pics04:01
Vincent_kok04:01
Vincent_kthat's not something I'm gonna mess with04:01
fritzmusic works pretty good with amarok04:01
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fritzI use it with my ipod04:02
BluesKajsorry Krator , dunno04:02
Vincent_kok is there support for ipod in amarok from the beginning04:02
Vincent_kor will I have to install and configure stuff?04:02
Vincent_kI mean can I just plug the ipod in and start useing it right away04:03
fritzI can actually plud the ipod  up to the pc and play the songs straight off the ipod through my pc speakers04:03
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fritzyeah, I did. I just plauged it in04:03
fritzoops, I mean plugged04:04
biohazard#ubuntu .pl04:04
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angasulewhat's the .pl ?04:04
biohazard#ubuntu pl04:04
Vincent_kI understand don't worry ;)04:04
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Jucato!pl | biohazard04:04
ubotubiohazard: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl04:04
biohazarddzieki04:05
biohazard wlasnie tam chce sie udac04:05
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Krator_BluesKaj: I assume it was you who sent me something, but it crashed, so I didn't get it.04:06
BluesKajKrator , I didn't send anything , just posted it in the channel04:07
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fritzsad thing is, the picture option with the ipod is really cool, but Linux has had anyone make a program that can successfully put pictures on the ipod04:08
fritzand view them04:08
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fritzI mean has not has04:08
fritzsheesh I cant type04:09
fritzHS NOT HAD04:09
Krator_Is there a way to avoid typing my password ten times per hour?04:09
fritzthere we go04:09
fritzlol04:09
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angasuleKrator_: why do you have to type your password so much?04:09
scoateswhat is the first field in dmesg for? looks like this: [17269714.316000] 04:10
fritzafter you get things setup the way it suppose to be, you should have to put it in quite as often04:10
Krator_every time I load Kopete, and every time I load Adept04:10
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scoatesfritz: you can use   ipod://   in konqueror04:11
fritzkopete even?04:11
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fritzyes, but have not had any luck with the pics04:11
fritzI can get them loaded, but they do not display on the ipod viewer04:12
scoatesKrator_ right-click on the wallet in your kicker tray, then configure, and uncheck the "close when..." boxes04:12
scoatesfritz: hmm.. I dunno. I gave up and installed rockbox04:12
Krator_GAH. Still saying that it's unable to load nvidia kernel driver.04:12
fritzscoates: does the pics work for you?04:13
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Zorixany idea why konversation doesnt work with psybnc passwords04:14
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Zorixsays its invalid no matter what i put in.. and in other irc clients works fine04:15
scoatesfritz: can't remember (-: I'm pretty sure you can sync pictures with kio_ipod, though (ipod://)04:15
fritzhmm, I'll try it04:15
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KratorWhee. It works :)04:16
fritzcongrads!!!04:16
Kratornow what was the command for the cogs..04:17
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xenol!wmv04:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:20
KratorBluesKaj, thanks for the help.04:20
Vincent_kMy gf have an Ipod but I havn't dared pluggin it in om my kubuntubox04:20
Vincent_kdont wanna mess upp her playlists and stuff04:21
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dromercan anybody help me do a network install on this ancient laptop of mine? I really want to make it a minimal install04:21
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Dutch_Canuckdoes anybody know how I can get "/usr/bin/pkill -HUP java" to stop crapping out in my bash script?04:23
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xenolcan anyone help me how to enable audio preview and video thumbnails in konqueror?04:25
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fritzcan I get some help on loading nvidia drivers?04:27
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mefisto__panel is crashing whenever I click the kmenu button. if I restart it with "sudo kicker", it works. But it's the default panel. How can I reset the panel so that kde starts with a working menu?04:28
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nagyvhello! I would like to try out my backporting skills using jdong's howto and prevu, but prevu has some package requirements. Do I have to set them up one-by-one or to install them is enough?04:29
rohanhi .. how did kubuntu feisty get flash9 working in konqueror ?04:29
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BluesKajfritz, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy04:29
KratorOpenOffice.org help tells me to find a XF86Config file. Where is that one?04:29
fritzthanks04:29
nagyvKrator: under /etc/X11/Xorg.conf04:30
Jucatoer.. /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:31
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Zorixany idea why i cannot make windows only show up in the task bar of the desktop im on? after an update that option disappeared04:32
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JucatoZorix: right-click panel -> Configure Panel -> Taskbar options?04:33
Zorixyep04:33
Zorixwas there04:33
Zorixnot anymore04:33
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BluesKajZorix, windows?04:33
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Zorixwell the tasks04:33
Zorixmaybe its because of beryl or the nvidia drivers?04:33
Vincent_kfritz: wohoo it just work's and it work's beautyfully to :D04:33
Vincent_kipod that is04:33
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Vincent_ktime to upgrade from my old creative muvo fm 512mb :D04:34
mefisto__anyone understand how the kmenu works?04:34
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nagyvmefisto__: you click the button, and it opens up. Do you have a more specific question?04:35
fritzVincent_k: grangrads friend!04:35
fritzVincent_k: grangrads friend!04:35
mefisto__clicking the button crashes the panel. I'm trying to reset the panel to the default and start again04:35
BluesKajberyl, bah humbug ...causes more probs than it's worth :)04:36
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fritzVincent_k: congrads friend!04:36
fritzI am trying to type with a 3 year old in my lap04:36
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scoateswhy is it that top would show my CPU as 90% user, but the process list only shows 2 or 3 tasks that have > 0% user (and of those, they only add up to ~15%) ?04:37
nagyvmefisto__: a couple of think to try: 1) remove the kmenu button from the panel, 2) try to open it with the keyboard shortcut (alt-F1) (to see where is the problem)04:37
Dutch_Canuckany bash script pros in the house??04:37
scoatesDutch_Canuck: just ask04:38
fritzits lying04:38
Dutch_Canuckanybody know how I can get "/usr/bin/pkill -HUP java" to stop knocking out in my bash script?04:38
scoatesfritz: heh.. ok, how can I ask it politely not to lie?04:38
Lazydogwondering if i might get some help here  when booting i get an error right after the kernel is uncompressed.  "invalid compressed format (err=2)"04:38
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Lazydogdoesn't matter what option i choose on the boot menu04:38
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scoatesDutch_Canuck: "knocking out"?04:38
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mefisto__nagyv: alt-F1 crashes panel too. Also, right-clicking and moving the mouse to "add application to panel" crashes it.04:39
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fritzsay please....while holding a recycling container     :o)04:39
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fritzyou got to give it a reason to tell the truth, man04:40
Kr4t05Hrm...04:40
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scoatesfritz: should I bribe it with extra swap space?04:40
Dutch_Canuckyeah - the script starts ok until it gets to the "/usr/bin/pkill -HUP java" and then it errors out04:40
Kr4t05angasule: Hey, I figured out my Amarok/xine problem.04:40
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Antonio_Carlos_Mhi04:40
angasuleKr4t05: what was it? :?04:41
mefisto__nagyv: the problem seems to be that I can't access the app menu without crashing kicker04:41
scoatesDutch_Canuck: and what error does it give?04:41
fritzhow big is your swap?04:41
Antonio_Carlos_Mcan someone help me with 3ddesk04:41
Kr4t05angasule: I had to delete ~/.xine/04:41
JucatoAntonio_Carlos_M: what about 3ddesk?04:41
scoatesfritz: big.. the bribing was a joke...   but seriously, why would top lie?04:41
Kr4t05angasule: That fix everything... But now Amarok won04:41
angasuleKr4t05: ah, something was very wrong with xine, then :/04:42
Kr4t05won't match the rest of my KDE color-scheme.04:42
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fritzhonestly dude, that doesnt make sense04:42
Kr4t05But, that's a minor annoyance.04:42
fritzI really dont know04:42
scoatesyeah.. not cool04:42
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nagyvrename ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc to something else, and restart kde (or even better, log out, rename in the console, and log back)04:42
nagyvmefisto__: ^^04:43
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nagyvmefisto__: finally you will get a new kicker config file04:43
Dutch_Canuckno error - it just doesn go any further than that04:43
mefisto__nagyv: thanks I'll try that04:43
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ElbridgeGerr1I've installed KDE, but whenever I change my resolution to above 1152x768, my screen fills with garbage and such. Why is this?04:44
Dutch_Canucki've tried putting it in quotes, without quotes - no joy04:44
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empirichi all04:45
empiricany idea why my konqueror is crashing04:45
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empirici have no idea why04:45
empirichow i cure that04:45
mefisto__nagyv: thanks, it worked. I didn't restart kde, just kicker, but I think it's fixed it.04:45
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mefisto__nagyv: actually, it didn't work. got a new panel, but kmenu is still crashing it04:50
nagyvmefisto__: and you still can not remove kmenu?04:51
nagyvanyone using prevu here?04:52
mefisto__no, I can remove it, I just can't left-click to display it or alt-F1 without crashing the panel04:52
nagyv\join ubuntu04:52
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mefisto__nagyv: if I restart the panel with "sudo kicker" it works normally. So I think it must be something in my ~/.kde directory04:54
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nagyvmefisto__: definitely, but I don't know what. It will be probably under share/config or share/apps04:54
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Jucatomefisto__: it only crashes if you try to launch the k menu?04:55
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mefisto__yes, or if I right-click the panel, and hover the mouse over "add application to panel"04:55
mefisto__anything that displays the menu will do it04:56
Jucatomust be something that was recently added to the k menu. what was the last app you installed?04:56
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mefisto__I installed (then uninstalled) wine, but it didn't create anything in the menu04:56
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Jucatomefisto__: ok try this. run "kbuildsycoca" in Konsole and ignore the error messages. then try launching the K menu again04:57
mefisto__what does that do?04:57
Jucatoit rebuilds the KDE database and updates your k menu04:58
mefisto__still crashes04:58
Jucatook, another approach. go to ~/.config/menus/ and move or rename the applications-kmenuedit.menu file04:59
mefisto__Jucato: that did it! thanks05:00
Jucatowhew05:00
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mefisto__no wait05:00
JucatoO.O05:01
mefisto__whatever is in lost + found is crashing it05:01
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Jucatomefisto__: can you launch kmenuedit?05:01
mefisto__yes, but when the mouse gets to lost+found, it crashes05:02
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Jucatohm...05:02
mefisto__in kmenuedit, there's nothing in lost+found05:02
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Jucatoweird...05:03
abhinayMy memory stick got currupted, how can i fix it ?05:03
abhinayiam getting this error : Error: Unable to open /dev/sdb1 - unrecognised disk label05:03
mefisto__can I remove lost+found in the menu editor?05:03
Jucatomefisto__: can you check if there's a lost+found folder in ~/.local/share/applications/ ?05:04
mefisto__Jucato: no, there isn't05:05
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mefisto__but at least I have the menu back05:06
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dhqmy win and capslock keys dont work it works on windows but not on kubuntu any help05:07
LambSlayerI've got a problem with swap it gives me invalid argument..05:07
mefisto__Jucato: let me try restarting kde, it might magically fix the lost+found weirdness05:07
Jucatomefisto__: er.. reinstalling isn't always the answer :)05:08
Jucatomefisto__: did you install something with wine?05:08
mefisto__Jucato: yes, I tried but it didn't finish installing05:08
Jucatoit might be due to that... try checking in ~/.local/share/applications if there's a .desktop file that has the name of the app you tried to install using wine05:09
mefisto__Jucato: no, nothing unusual05:11
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Jucatoi'm out of ideas... another thing you could try would be: run kicker from Konsole so that you can see error messages when it crashes, and to create a backtrace when it crashes (using the kde crash handler dialog box)05:12
mefisto__oh wait!!!05:12
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mefisto__I just noticed the menu editor didn't reflect the new menu05:12
manligfeHey guys, I have a somewhat annoying issue. For some reason Xorg uses between 25 and 50% of my CPU constantly... I've been trying to find the cause but without success, I'm running edgy on an AMD 3500+ and with an ATI radeon x600 card and thus with the fglrx driers. Any suggestions are welcome05:12
mefisto__restarted menu editor and there's a bunch of things in lost+found (in menu editor)05:12
Jucatomefisto__: try running "kbuildsycoca" again to update the menu05:12
Jucatowhat are those bunch of things?05:13
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mefisto__items I'd edited in the menu05:14
Jucatoah05:14
manligfeanyone?05:14
mefisto__Jucato: can I delete them in the menu editor?05:15
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Jucatomefisto__: have you run kbuildsycoca after renaming/moving the applications-kmenuedit.menu file? and it still crashes? if the stuff in Lost+Found are not that important to you..maybe you can05:16
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mefisto__I renamed applications-kmenuedit.menu, but it didn't get recreated.05:17
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Jucatoyeah. if you rename/move that file, the K Menu will revert to the default KDE settings for the K Menu.05:18
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Jucatoit would put your created menu entries probably in Lost+Found.05:18
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pjesiis it possible that /etc/hosts is not read as the primary dns provider?05:18
pmjdebruijnpjesi: probably, I'm not sure, but /etc/hosts is most likely a fallback05:19
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pjesiwell usually it is the first place to look for05:20
pjesiand besides it is not working as a fallback now05:20
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pjesi(this was not the case before an update)05:20
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vigneshHi05:22
vigneshI have problem using google talk in kopete05:22
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vigneshits not able to authenticate05:23
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mefisto__Jucato: ok, I moved everything out of lost+found, and now it's crashing again05:23
vigneshHi Jucato05:23
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Jucatohi vignesh05:23
vigneshJucato: remember me ?05:24
rylasasinanyone remember me? :P05:24
Jucatoheh05:24
vigneshHeh05:24
rylasasinlol05:24
vigneshI know Jucato from #kde05:24
Jucatonot so much... but I've had a lot of things in my mind lately that I forget even important things05:24
Jucatomefisto__: I'm out of ideas...05:24
vigneshIts me kdeuser05:25
Jucatomefisto__: you can try bringing it to #kde as they might have some answers05:25
Jucatovignesh: oh lol05:25
Jucato:P05:25
rylasasinI built this computer as  a school project... never thought I'd actually use it again :P... well untill my windows machine decided to take a s***05:25
mefisto__Jucato: you gave me plenty of clues. thanks05:25
vigneshHeh.. now he remembers..05:25
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Jucato:D05:25
vigneshJucato:  I have problem using google talk in kopete05:26
Jucatovignesh: have you followed the Kopete+Google Talk setup guide?05:26
vigneshlink please05:26
Jucatohttp://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support05:26
Jucatoyou need to have qca-tls installed05:26
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vigneshok...ty05:27
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vigneshalso.. I use 0.11.x .. is there anyway to make it support conference`s ?05:28
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vigneshA yahoo conference with more than one person05:28
Jucatoyou're on dapper?05:29
vigneshyes05:29
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Jucatoah... hm..05:29
Jucatothere are KDE 3.5.5 packages for Dapper05:29
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vigneshyou want me to update kde ?05:30
Jucatothat might be the only way "safe" way to get Kopete 0.12.x05:30
vigneshAh..05:30
mefisto__Jucato: got it. I deleted everything in lost+found, everything is normal05:30
Jucatomefisto__: oh. well, at least it works now :)05:30
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Jucatobye05:31
nagyvanyone using prevu here? I would like to build frozen bubble v2, but it depends on libsdl-pango-dev, what builds fine with prevu, but is not found when I would like to build frozen bubble.05:31
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rylasasindoes anyone know if theres a plugin for widescreen support?05:33
rylasasinas in support for widescreen monitors?05:33
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BluesKaj!widescreen05:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about widescreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:35
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BluesKaj!resolution05:35
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:35
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xenolwhich packages do i need to enable audio and video thumbnails?05:36
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BluesKajaudio thumbnails?05:38
BluesKaj!thumbnails05:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thumbnails - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
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Kite_DHhi everybody05:40
xenolBluesKaj: well audio preview and video thumbnails in konqueror i have both ticked in "view" option but i need some libs for it and dont know which ones05:40
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BluesKaj!codecs05:41
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:41
BluesKajxenol , firefox works better, the plugins are more up to date05:42
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xenolBluesKaj: i mean konqueror and file manager not for web05:43
BluesKajoh'05:43
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BluesKajI just use kaffeine05:43
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rylasasin_sorry I changed desktops before I could get an answer to this, but is there a plugin for widescreen support?05:45
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BluesKajhmm, what's the command for placing an program in the kmenu  ?05:47
BluesKajany program05:47
hagabakawhy is it that the mimetype for .py in /etc/mime.types is text/x-python, while in KDE it's application/x-python ? as a result, KDE can't open such files automatically when served from a webserver running on the same computer05:47
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KratorWhat is a good alternative for Konqueror as file management?05:48
BluesKajhagabaka, perhaps that question is best asked in #python05:48
hagabakaBluesKaj: are you looking for the menu editor, or a command line for doing it?05:48
hagabakaBluesKaj: the same with ruby, perl, etc05:49
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moparisthebestcan I get a list of registered users from the command line?05:49
hagabakait's not related to the programming languages, but the setup in Ubuntu and Ubuntu's KDE05:49
mzanfardinoI've just installed Kubuntu 6.10 on a machine with a NVidia GFX 5600 vidio card.  I've set it up with two independant desktops, as opposed to a single twin-view desktop (to permit simultaneous execution of OpenGL applications).  How do I duplicate the settings form Desktop0 to Desktop1 so as to make both desktops appear identical (in terms of layout, applications, etc)?05:49
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Lynouremoparisthebest: registered users as in freenode users or existing user accounts on your system?05:50
Kite_DHhow can i open my "systems list"05:50
Kite_DH?05:50
moparisthebestexisting user accounts on my system Lynoure05:50
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BluesKajhagabaka,if cli works i can use that05:50
snikkerit's a normal thing that kdesu set the home var to /root?05:50
moparisthebestyes snikker05:51
BluesKajKite_DH, sources list - repositories ?05:51
moparisthebestkdesu is just a graphical sudo05:51
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Kite_DHyes blues05:51
Kite_DHthat thing05:51
xenolwhich lib packages do i need in order to be able to use video thumbnails and sound preview in konqueror?05:51
snikkermoparisthebest: but sudo don't do that...05:51
moparisthebestyes it does snikker05:51
rylasasin_is there a plugin for better usage of widescreen monitors?05:51
moparisthebestsudo -i does that05:52
hagabakaBluesKaj: the GUI is kmenuedit, or could be opened by right clicking on the KDE menu button, and Menu Editor05:52
Lynouremoparisthebest: you can see all user accounts by less /etc/passwd05:52
Lynouremoparisthebest: that includes both system and user accounts05:52
moparisthebestthanks Lynoure05:52
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hagabakai don't think there's a cui program for it. but it probably just involves creating .desktop files somewhere in ~/.kde05:52
BluesKajhagabaka, I tried that already , it doesn't apply to what I'm rtying to do :(05:53
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hagabakawhat are you trying to do?05:53
moparisthebestLynoure is there a way to delete/remove a user?05:53
BluesKajKite_DH, kdesu kate /etc/apt/filename05:53
Kite_DHhmm05:53
BluesKajkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:53
Kite_DHok thanks05:54
BluesKajin the terminal05:54
Kite_DHyup05:54
Lynouremoparisthebest: yes, userdel, see  man userdel05:54
snikkermoparisthebest: when i run (with sudo) a program that print "printenv" it show home=my-home, but with kdesu it print home=/root and font on the gui program are incomprensible05:54
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[GuS] hi guys!... i have a problem trying to build packages since feisty 4, using dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc, with this error: "dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address"05:55
[GuS] what i should do? something change?05:56
moparisthebestI just remember running konqueror with sudo and with kdesu and when you click home directory it takes you to /root snikker05:56
moparisthebestbut thats strange05:56
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cox377i\m really confused about something, with kmplayer whenever i select a media file off a network share it just streams it like u would expect, however with mplayer it insists in downloading it first.. can anyone explain why?05:56
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robybibi05:57
snikkermoparisthebest: my problem is that i'm unable to see label strings when i run it with kdesu05:57
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kunal_i am running kubuntu feisty and i ran into upgrade problems today. the X (x11-common) packages seem to be the cause of the trouble05:58
kunal_anyone else facing similar problems?05:58
Kite_DHBluesKaj: can you help me getting this installed?? --> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb05:58
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Lynourekunal_: feisty is not released yet, so it's support is at #ubuntu+105:59
BluesKajsorry Kite_DH , i don't use wine ...i just switch over to my windows partition if a ineed to do windows stuff05:59
empiricguys05:59
empiricany idea how i cure my konqueror in ubuntu05:59
empiricits crashing05:59
empiricoftenly05:59
Kite_DHBluesKaj: then cann you tell me how i can make this move--> "First, open a terminal window. Then add the repository's key to your system's list of trusted APT keys by copy and pasting the following:"06:00
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snikkerKite_DH: open /etc/apt/sources.list with text editor and add repository06:00
Kite_DHwhere to add it? at the bottom?06:01
BluesKajyes06:01
Kite_DHok06:01
BluesKajthen save it06:01
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Kite_DHwhat was the full cmd again for /etc/apt/sources.list06:01
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Kite_DHaw kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:02
BluesKajkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list yes06:02
Kite_DHrelogging06:03
snikkerKite_DH: then add this line: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main06:03
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BluesKajtoo late06:04
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Kite_DHback06:04
thomas_Fr06:04
snikkerKite_DH: then add this line: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main06:05
Kite_DHok06:05
pointwoodis the feisty herd4 CD a liveCD?06:05
BluesKajsnikker, I wish the whole title was underlined and highlighted , some ppl don't copy and paste the whole 'deb.....edgy main''06:05
thomas_what is Kubuntu Fr ?06:05
kittspointwood, yes06:05
pointwoodthanks06:05
BluesKajfrench06:05
thomas_yes06:05
BluesKaj!fr06:05
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:05
pointwoodI'll test it on my thinkpad then :)06:05
Kite_DHQObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter06:06
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Kite_DHthats what it says when i save it06:06
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Kite_DHis that normal?06:06
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BluesKajyou've copied something unecessary or missed something Kite_DH06:07
snikkerBluesKaj: you are right...06:07
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neoncodeWhat program should I use in KDE to accsess USENET?06:07
Kite_DHBluesKaj: but it said to add "wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -" and then "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main"06:07
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LjL!knode | neoncode06:08
ubotuneoncode: knode: KDE news reader. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1195 kB, installed size 2948 kB06:08
BluesKajKite_DH, you have to copy the whole line svnikker gave ypi not just the highlighted part  starting with "deb.....edgy main"06:08
LjLneoncode: it's actually part of Kontact, once you install it06:08
neoncodeLjL: Thanks very much.06:08
Kite_DHyes, i added this blue06:08
Kite_DHonly that line or the other one too?06:08
slow-motionhallo06:08
Kite_DHhi06:09
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snikkerKite_DH: you must paste also: deb edgy main06:09
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Kite_DHsnikker:  this? --> "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main"06:09
BluesKajKite_DH, no i din't tell you copy that  winewget line  to sourceslist..that is a command used in the terminal06:09
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Kite_DHoh06:09
Kite_DHok06:10
surgyguten morgan06:10
surgyclose?06:10
snikkerKite_DH: yes06:10
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BluesKajKite_DH, do what snikker just suggested06:10
parkerw207_!ge06:11
ubotu      #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge06:11
snikkerKite_DH: then run tis command:   wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -06:11
parkerw207_ooops06:11
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:11
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LjL!de06:11
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:11
parkerw207_thats it :)06:11
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parkerw207_lol06:11
snikkerBluesKaj: how can i highlight a whole line in konversastion?06:11
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parkerw207_i forgot the abriviation :P06:11
LjLwell !german works too06:12
parkerw207_it does ?06:12
parkerw207_ahh i didnt know06:12
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BluesKajsnikker i dunno ...it's a big prob when trying to help ppl06:12
parkerw207_i dont know any of those little tricks rally :P06:12
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snikkerBluesKaj: yes, it's true...06:13
BluesKajit would be better in a way if the deb wasn't highlighted06:13
BluesKajit's confusing for newbs06:14
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Kite_DHBluesKaj: it still doesnt work...:(06:15
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jhutchinssnikker: triple-click?06:15
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snikkerjhutchins: no, i want post an highlighted line in the channel06:16
Kite_DHit still says QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter06:16
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jhutchinssnikker: You want the text you post to be highlighted?06:17
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snikkerKite_DH: what to you run for get that message?06:17
BluesKajsudo apt-get update in the terminal Kite_DH06:17
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BluesKajsudo apt-get update06:17
Kite_DHaw ok06:18
snikkerjhutchins: at the moment none...06:18
Kite_DHand after that sudo apt-get update06:19
BluesKajthat's the command for updating changes in the repos list06:19
BluesKajsources list06:19
snikkerjhutchins: it's just for highlight a whole commmand...06:19
Kite_DHoh ok06:19
Kite_DHbut its still version 0.9.22 ...06:20
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Kite_DHhmm06:20
Kite_DHim doing something wrong06:20
jhutchinssnikker: You can use ascii color encoding to highlight text, but most people don't appreacite it, and many channels ban it.06:20
snikkerKite_DH: you can run: "apt-get install wine"06:21
Kite_DHit says that i didnt sign a key06:21
Kite_DHwhen i make the systems.list update06:21
snikkerjhutchins: oh, ok... where is the syntax for ascii color?06:21
BluesKajfriggin wine , what PITA06:21
jhutchinssnikker: I don't know off hand, and as I said I don't think it's a good idea.06:22
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Kite_DH:(06:22
snikkerKite_DH: do you have run "wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - " as i sayd?06:22
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snikkerjhutchins: oh, ok :-)06:22
Kite_DHoh06:22
Kite_DHnow06:22
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Kite_DHnow it says something that it cant get acces to /var/lib/dpkg/lock06:23
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Kite_DH(13 Permission denied)06:23
Kite_DHdo i need to relog?06:24
BluesKajKite_DH, type this into the terminal : sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/edgy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list06:24
Kite_DHok, and then?06:24
Kite_DHits done06:24
BluesKajthe whole line , not just the highlighted part06:24
Kite_DHyes06:24
Kite_DHit dled something or so06:24
BluesKajsudo apt-get update06:24
Kite_DHthen its over06:24
Kite_DHthat doesnt work06:25
BluesKajdo it again06:25
Kite_DHit always says permission denied06:25
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BluesKajin the terminal ?06:25
Kite_DHyes06:25
BluesKajare you using sudo?06:26
snikkerKite_DH: what do you have typed?06:26
Kite_DHwhats that06:26
Kite_DHwell, i opened this, systems.list06:26
Kite_DHi put the line in u said at the bottom06:26
BluesKajno06:26
Kite_DHthen i saved it06:26
Kite_DHugh?06:26
Kite_DHok,  removed that line06:27
BluesKajthen you type sudo apt-get update in the terminal06:27
Kite_DHoh06:27
Kite_DHnow06:27
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Kite_DHok and then?06:27
Kite_DHnow it says i didnt sign a key for beryl06:27
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Kite_DH>_<06:27
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Kite_DHok and now that did  isudo apt-get update ran06:28
Kite_DHsudo*06:28
Kite_DH sudo apt-get update ran06:28
Kite_DHargh06:28
Kite_DHyes,  you know what i mean06:28
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BluesKajwhat did you remove from the sources list?06:31
Kite_DHthe line of wine06:31
BluesKajthe deb line ?06:31
snikkerKite_DH: first import gpg key with:  "wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - "06:31
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BluesKajhe did that06:32
Kite_DHok snikker, it was successfull06:32
Kite_DHand next?06:32
BluesKajnow add the deb line to the sources list06:32
Kite_DHok wait06:32
snikkerKite_DH: do as BluesKaj say06:32
Kite_DHdeb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main06:32
Kite_DHthis right?06:33
snikkerok06:33
BluesKajyes the whole line06:33
BluesKajthen save it06:33
Kite_DHok saved it, and now the terminal says "QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter"06:33
snikkerKite_DH: you must open tha file as root (with sudo)06:33
BluesKajnot in the terminal , in the sources list06:34
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Kite_DHyes i did that06:34
Kite_DHand then when i saved the systems.list06:34
Kite_DHit says deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main06:34
Kite_DHit says QObject::disconnect: Unexpected null parameter06:34
Kite_DHin the terminal06:34
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snikkerKite_DH: type: "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"06:35
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Kite_DHyes06:35
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snikkerKite_DH: try with nano: "sudo nano  /etc/apt/sources.list"06:35
Kite_DHand then i made this "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main" entry at the bottom06:35
snikkerKite_DH: yes the line is right but without ""06:36
Kite_DHi know06:36
snikkerok06:36
Kite_DHi made it without the "06:36
snikkerKite_DH: work with nano editor?06:36
Kite_DHthis nano thing says "sudo nano  /etc/apt/sources.list"06:36
Kite_DH## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'06:36
Kite_DH## repository.06:36
snikkerKite_DH: go to bottom06:37
Kite_DHok06:37
Kite_DHof terminal?06:37
BluesKajyes take #s out06:37
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snikkerright click and past the line06:37
underdog5004surgy, it didn't work.06:37
BluesKajtoo many cooks ... I'll leave it toi you . snikker06:37
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Kite_DH## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'06:38
Kite_DH## repository.06:38
Kite_DH Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'06:38
Kite_DH repository.06:38
surgyunderdog5004: elaborate?06:38
snikkerKite_DH: add the line at the bottom of file06:39
Kite_DHdeb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main ???06:39
snikkeryes06:39
Kite_DHi did06:39
snikkersave the file with CTRL+O06:39
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Kite_DHok06:40
snikkerthen exit CTR+X06:40
Kite_DHok06:40
snikkerthen sudo apt-get update06:40
nanda_is there a kubuntu edgy package for amarok 1.4.5 yet?06:40
Kite_DHok06:40
snikkerthen sudo apt-get install wine06:40
underdog5004surgy, ok. When I woke up this morning, I went to my computer and it was locked at 100% cpu, I couldn't move the mouse, and I had to restart...06:40
Kite_DHoh no06:40
Kite_DHnow*06:40
Kite_DHthank you!!!06:40
Kite_DHnow it works06:41
snikkerok06:41
surgyunderdog5004: check your pm06:41
snikkerenjoy it!06:41
Kite_DHyes hehe06:41
Kite_DHi need it for PS 7.0 you see06:41
Kite_DHfinally06:42
Kite_DHhehe06:42
snikkerKite_DH: i understand... but i prefer gimp ;-)06:42
Kite_DHyes, but i only learned PS :(06:42
Kite_DHi had windows XP 3 days ago06:42
Kite_DHim still linux newb06:42
snikkerKite_DH: i understand... welcome to the linux users :-)06:43
Kite_DHhehe, thx06:43
Kite_DHim proud of being a linux user06:43
Kite_DH:)06:43
snikker:)06:43
Kite_DHyesh! photoshop works yehaaa06:44
BluesKaji've had kubuntu since june , but I'm still a neb in many ways06:44
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KanRiNiNHi.  Whenever I try to open any jpg with gwenview it doesn't show up06:44
BluesKajstrange , wine has never worked right on this pc06:44
Kite_DHthis guy in wine was so unkind06:44
Kite_DHhe used caps on me lol06:45
Kite_DH:(06:45
Kite_DHhe said i should ask the guys of my distro06:45
KanRiNiNalso, whenever I enable compositing kdm won't start, yet w/o compositing my driver settings are fine06:45
BluesKajwell , he's right in a way06:45
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Kite_DH^^maybe06:46
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Kite_DHcan you please help me installing my webcam?06:47
Kite_DHno idea how that works06:47
Kite_DHis it possible to install drivers with WINE?06:48
snikkerwho want try to compile and test a simple program? it's only to see if the problem is on my machine is not...06:48
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MementoMorihi all06:48
snikkerKite_DH: sorrry, but i can't halp with webcam, i don' have it...06:48
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Kite_DHhmm ok06:49
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Kite_DHoh yes, snikker, maybe you can help me here06:50
Kite_DHthe problem is06:50
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Arkezisbonsoir !06:51
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Arkezisbonsoir bonsoir06:51
snikkerKite_DH: yes...06:51
MuJbonsoir? O_o06:51
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Kite_DHwhen i want to copy the files from a DVD/CD to my HD, it stops about 80% and breaks up06:51
ArkezisMuJ il est 18h50 ^^06:51
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snikkerKite_DH: it's a movie?06:52
ArkezisThis chan is English ?06:52
MuJyes06:52
Kite_DHyes, .avi file 600mb06:52
snikkerArkezis: yes06:52
Arkezisomg ! I have a problem but I speak little English :s06:52
MementoMoriwell, I registered myself to launchpad and have subscribed the code of conduct, but now... what I can do? how can I give/request support or starting translating app/docs?06:52
ArkezisI trying to explai my problem !06:52
MuJArkezis: how about #kubuntu-fr ?06:52
Kite_DHhehe, is there a german channel too?06:53
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ArkezisMuJ ! good idea, this chan is unknow for me :)06:53
snikkerKite_DH: so it's a simple movie, not a dvd movie right?06:53
Kite_DHsnikker: its a simple .avi file, yes06:53
MuJKite_DH: most likely06:53
Arkezisthxs and bye all06:53
snikkerKite_DH: maybe the cd is dirty?06:53
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Kite_DHnaw, i'll stay with you guys06:54
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Kite_DHyou helped me out nice all the time06:54
Kite_DHlol06:54
MuJ:)06:54
ollieheloo06:54
Kite_DHhi06:54
ollielooking for some support here,06:54
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olliecant find much on it06:54
olliegot 2 soundcards in my system06:54
ollieonboard intel06:54
Kite_DHsnikker: 535,6 MB .avi filetype06:54
ollieand an m-audio delta 66 pci card06:55
jhutchins!de > Kite_DH06:55
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MementoMori!launchpad06:55
ubotulaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/06:55
johny_join #ubuntu-pl06:55
snikkerKite_DH: the cause could be a dirty cd/dvd... or demaged cd/dvd06:56
mefisto__ollie, do you get sound routed to the wrong card? that is, the onboard one?06:56
ollieon boot, kubuntu switches the 2 soundcards around, i want the oboard sound to be card0 and the m-audio pci card to be card1 all the time but it keeps switching them06:56
Kite_DHthey said it yesterday too06:56
Kite_DHbut i just burned it :(06:56
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Kite_DHoh wow, now that i allowed stuff to users it work06:56
Kite_DHworks*06:57
MementoMori!hal06:57
ubotuhal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7.1-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1112 kB06:57
mefisto__ollie: if you only want to use the m-audio card, you could blacklist the onboard one06:57
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Kite_DHwow, thats nice06:57
Kite_DHi can finally get my stuff down06:57
Kite_DHhahaha06:57
Kite_DHwoow amazing, thank you06:57
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MementoMoriollie: maybe you can set your cards configuring hal06:57
olliehal?06:58
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ollienever heard of it,06:58
MementoMoribut consider this only an idea to be verified06:58
MementoMori!hal > ollie06:58
olliei thought this was something to do with the way the kernel is probing for devices06:58
Vincent_khal: Hardware Abstraction Layer06:58
ollieil look into it06:59
MementoMoriollie: but between kernel and apps lives hal06:59
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olliewhere do you configure it?06:59
olliei havent a clue06:59
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MarcoPauhow do I extract a "multiple" rar archive? (rar.001, rar.002...)06:59
MarcoPauI got ark07:00
MementoMoriollie: I really dont know but am serching for doc now.... stay online07:00
olliecheers pal07:00
mefisto__MarcoPau: do you have unrar installed?07:00
alfatauhello, i want to reinstall windows on my pc, but i have kubuntu installed too in another partition. I know after win installation grub boot sector will be replaced and i will no longer be able to boot kubuntu, so what can i do to restore grub after win installation?07:00
snikkerMarcoPau: you must install "unrar"07:00
MementoMoriMarcoPau: extract the first one.... the others will follow07:00
MarcoPauit can't be done with ark?07:00
snikkerMarcoPau: yes but you need the unrar command07:01
joachim^^Hi, it says on the Kubuntu help guide that i should install 'libxine-extracodecs', but i can't find it in any repository. I've enabled all repositories that were in Adept07:01
mefisto__MarcoPau: ark needs unrar to do it07:01
MementoMoriMarcoPau: I did it using unrar in a konsole session07:01
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MarcoPauI have unrar, of course, I just wasn't sure on how to unpack a multiple archive, cause ark doesn't seem to recognize it, at least when opening... let me try07:02
snikkerMarcoPau: just extract the first one07:02
MarcoPaunope, won't work if I unpack the first one07:02
MarcoPaulet me try from shell07:03
snikkerMarcoPau: strange... what version of unurar do you have?07:03
mefisto__there is a free and non-free unrar, correct?07:04
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snikkermefisto__: yes, it's true...07:04
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MarcoPausnikker: 3.7.307:05
MarcoPauif I unrar e archive.rar.001 it won't do the following ones as well07:05
snikkerMarcoPau: so do you have a free verion right?07:05
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MarcoPausnikker: no, this is non-free07:06
viktorHi, i am from slovakia :D you know where is slovakia?07:06
viktorsorry my english is bad :)07:06
MarcoPauviktor: sure07:06
mefisto__MarcoPau: the first one should have just .rar without a number07:06
snikkerMarcoPau: do you get it here: http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm  ?07:06
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alfatauhello, i want to reinstall windows on my pc, but i have kubuntu installed too in another partition. I know after win installation grub boot sector will be replaced and i will no longer be able to boot kubuntu, so what can i do to restore grub after win installation?07:08
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MarcoPausnikker: get what?07:08
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mefisto__alfatau: there's a guide somewhere explaining the process. try google?07:09
MarcoPaumefisto__: tried renaming, still not connecting the two parts07:09
Skullerhey guys...can anyone help me to shut off my internet connection within kubuntu?07:09
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snikkerMarcoPau: do you have linux 32-bit or 64-bit?07:09
MarcoPausnikker: 3207:09
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mefisto__MarcoPau: no, you can't do that! the first is archive.rar, and it contains info about all the other archive.rar.00, archive.rar.01, etc07:10
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snikkerMarcoPau: mmm... if you want recompile it from source http://www.rarlab.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.7.3.tar.gz else http://www.rarlab.com/rar/unrar-3.5.3-i486-1.tgz07:11
MarcoPaumefisto__: right, but I only had rar.001 and rar.002, no just .ara07:11
MarcoPaurar*07:11
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mehdi_hi every one07:11
Skullerhey guys...can anyone help me to shut off my internet connection within kubuntu?07:11
Skulleri tried poff dsl-provider already but it says kill failed07:12
mefisto__MarcoPau: maybe you have the first (and most important) one missing? I could be wrong, but I think normally the first one has no number07:12
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snikkerMarcoPau: yes the first one should be *.rar and nor *.rar.00107:13
MarcoPauwell this is how I got them. I tried renaming the first as .rar, but no result07:13
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mefisto__MarcoPau: renaming won't work at all. You have to keep the original filenames to unpack them07:14
MarcoPauwell that's not working also :)07:14
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mefisto__MarcoPau: seems you have an incomplete set07:15
snikkerMarcoPau: it seem that you need the *.rar file07:15
mehdi_i would like to make questions about java ???07:15
MarcoPaumm, can't be, the archive is complete07:15
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MementoMoriollie: are you still online?07:15
Skullerhey guys...can anyone help me to shut off my internet connection within kubuntu?...the 'poff ds;-provider' command doesn work...says process kill failed07:15
snikkerMarcoPau: you made the split-stream archive?07:16
kunaltry 'sudo poff -a'07:16
mefisto__MarcoPau: try making a multipart rar yourself, then unpack it, to see if it works07:16
ollieMementoMori I may have fixed this soundcard issue. Need to reboot to test.07:16
kunalmehdi_: are the questions related to kubuntu?07:16
mefisto__ollie: what did you do?07:17
MementoMoriollie: am waitin your reboot07:17
MarcoPausnikker: don't even know what that is07:17
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mehdi_kunal my question is how to do to obtain information like memory size with java code07:18
Skulleri get this everytime i try to disconnect my internet in kubuntu using 'poff dsl-provider'..../usr/bin/poff: /bin/kill failed.  None stopped......please help me out07:18
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Skullerkunal: hey it worked...thnx heaps man07:19
Skullerwas missin out on da sudo part07:19
snikkerMarcoPau: try to do as mefisto__ say...07:19
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wilmanmy quickcam is'snt working07:19
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MarcoPauI'm also trying on windoze with vmware, it's not recognizing the archive... damn07:20
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kunalnp07:20
mehdi_kunal do u have an idea ??07:20
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snikkerMarcoPau: as supposed a .rar part is missing...07:20
backtickHi all.. I just installed noatun and I get this error when I try to run it: noatun: WARNING: Couldn't instanciate artsobject Noatun::Session. (This is normally caused by a broken package or compiling kdemultimedia in a --prefix different from arts.  It may also be from two conflicting packages, so uninstall every arts/artsd package you have installed and try again.07:21
backtickarts is installed and running07:21
MarcoPausnikker: that's almost impossible, cause the size amount actually matches with the content, and this has been downloaded by many people, so they would complain if there was actually a problem...07:21
MarcoPaulet me better search anyway07:22
mefisto__backtick: try restarting artsd07:22
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kunalmehdi_: wrong place boss... try #java or something07:22
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mehdi_ok thanx07:23
mehdi_join/ #java07:23
mehdi_oups07:23
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backtickmefisto__: thanks it worked07:26
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mefisto__backtick: I installed it yesterday :P07:26
MementoMorimefisto__: hope ollie solved his problem.... now I have to go... If you are still insterested in his problem look for hal-device-manager. here you can see and set hw properties07:26
mefisto__thanks MementoMori07:26
ostlundhow do i disable the shared imap-folders in kmail? they dont show up in thunderbird and i dont want to show them07:27
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MementoMoriurw07:27
MementoMoribye07:27
snikkercan anyone compile and test a dummy program? it's only to see if the problem is on my machine or not...07:27
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fdovingsnikker: sure, where can i find it?07:28
snikkerfdoving: i paste it, just a moment...07:29
fdoving!paste | snikker07:29
ubotusnikker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:29
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snikkerfdoving: i've do it look here: http://pastebin.com/88378207:30
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xenolplz07:31
xenolcan i erase content of /tmp while i am su?07:32
snikkerxenol: yes07:32
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fdovingsnikker: i have to install fltk, hang on.07:34
snikkerfdoving: ok, thanks07:34
ksnipaI'm trying to compile superkarmba (synpatic version wouldn't work) anyways I'm getting an error when I run configure saying I'm missing Python header and libraries, I used to synpatic and installed python but it still doesn't seem to be working, anyone know what packages I need to install exactly to get it working?07:34
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ksnipaI've tried sudo apt-get install python2.4 but get that it is already installed07:35
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fdovingsnikker: works.07:38
snikkerfdoving: ok, thanks... now try to run it with kdesu...07:38
fdovingsnikker: why?07:38
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snikkerfdoving: because with kdesu don't show labels...07:39
intelikeytrue ;echo $? ;false ;echo $? ;echo ;echo $?07:39
fdovingsnikker: it does here.07:39
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snikkerfdoving: you can see the text on button also if you run with kdesu?07:40
intelikeyi'm a little concerned with the way that apt seems to do business with the file system.07:40
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fdovingsnikker: yes.07:40
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snikkerfdoving: damn... in my machine i don't see the text with kdesu... :(07:41
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snikkerfdoving: and i don't understand why...07:41
backtickmefisto__: it always throws couldn't load file.. is there any way to get it to use xine as a backend?07:41
beg1689is there a firewall set up by default?07:42
fdovingbeg1689: no.07:42
beg1689having trouble with some LAN prorgams07:42
snikkerfdoving: thanks for testing...07:42
beg1689how can i check'\07:42
intelikeyapt seems to download to /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/  then use ln to make hard links in /var/cache/apt/archives/  and rm's the origenal.    this is totally unacceptable of course if the two dirs are on seperate fs's07:42
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fdovingintelikey: they should not be.07:44
intelikeyfdoving ?07:44
fdovingthat's kinda the point.07:44
intelikeyexplain ?07:44
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fdovingwhy would you ever download something to a separate fs, just to copy it over to another when it finishes?07:45
fdovingthat doesn't make sense.07:45
fdovingin any situations i can think of.07:45
intelikeyfdoving what about making the "partial" dir a symlink to a ram disk so that anything in there is only in ram?07:46
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intelikeysaves on disk activity makes things flow more quickly/quietly07:47
fdovingintelikey: sure, if you have enought ram that would be a good solution. but that would limit your to a size.07:47
intelikeyfdoving you are always limited on size.   whether the limit is low or high.07:47
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fdovingso if your machine looses power at 99% download you're willing to loose everything you've downloaded so far?07:48
intelikeyat the exponential rate of disk size/usage 1,000,000 tara bytes will soon be too small07:48
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fdovingyou're always free to make improvements, the defauls are there to be sensible for most configurations.07:49
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intelikeyfdoving i only gave one logical example.   the actual case where i noticed that problem is, when i was adding another disk mounted on */partial to allow the download that otherwise was too big to fit the crowded space i had.  then i discovered that i had to manually copy the files after dl so that apt could call dpkg to install them.07:51
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intelikeyapt doesn't copy from partial  it hardlinks   you can't hard link accross fs's07:52
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intelikeythus a built-in weekness that doesn't need to be there.07:52
fdovingwhy don't you just include archive/ ?07:52
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fdovingif your FS is full it doesn't make sense to just mount /partial to something else.07:53
intelikeyfdoving i did.   but that's not always the most affective answer either.   why doesn't apt just cp rather than ln   that's the better solution.07:53
fdovingit has to go to partial/.. when it's finished anyway.07:53
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Heavenquakehmm.. software for recording the desktop? I want to record a couple of minute of myself using my computer, and send it to a friend to demonstrate Linux07:54
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inamhi everyone. i have just compiled GRUB 0.97... and im going to replace it with the grub that was installed along with kubuntu dapper... any words of advice?!07:54
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hattahas anyone in here used klibido?07:55
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pmjdebruijnhi07:55
inamlet me correct myself... im going to replace the grub that was installed by kubutu CD with the one that i have just compiled :-) is this suicidal ?07:55
pmjdebruijnwhy does amaroK depend on libgtk2.0-0?07:55
hattathe linux binaries downloader?07:55
fdovingHeavenquake: try istanbul07:56
intelikeyfdoving yes but you have to have space for two copies if it cp's from partial to ..    but only space for one if it links there.    i think that was the origenal intent.   so i stumbled into what the writer had already planed on.  except i disagree with the writers decission.   i would have used cp not ln07:56
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dettoaltrimenti_can someone help me? I have a dv6000 hp pavilion laptop and I was trying to install the nvidia drivers using these instructions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29 and now X windows won't load, and I only have the terminal07:57
fdovingintelikey: i think ln is nicer to the fs. ln just adds a name to the inode. copy copies.07:58
BluesKaj!X07:58
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:58
intelikeyfdoving yes i understand how they both work and why you can not link accross fs's07:58
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inamok, let me rephrase my question yet again, if i screw up my grub, how will get my computer to boot kubutu again?07:59
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BluesKajor dettoaltrimenti_ , 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'08:00
intelikeyfdoving but ln is intended more for cases where you have several names or locations of one inode   not really intended for moving inodes to another location   that's what mv is for08:00
giovanni_ciao08:00
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giovanni_ciao08:01
BluesKaj!it > giovanni_08:01
giovanni_ho istallato da poco kubuntu08:01
BluesKaj!it08:01
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:01
fdovingintelikey: the point is you don't want to move the inode, the less disc activity, the better.08:01
giovanni_ciao08:02
BluesKajciao giovanni_08:02
intelikeyfdoving it's kinda like my use of echo to edit file...  not the best tool for the job.    while it works most of the time... not always.08:02
dettoaltrimenti_blueskaj- how much memory should I use for the video card?08:02
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giovanni_un saluto a tutti08:03
giovanni_sono un novizio di linux08:03
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giovanni_e volevo avere qualche aiuto08:03
fdoving!it | giovanni_08:03
ubotugiovanni_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:03
intelikey<dettoaltrimenti_> blueskaj- how much memory should I use for the video card? <<<< how much does the card have ?08:03
dettoaltrimenti_oh nevermind08:03
giovanni_mi sai indicare dove posso chiedere alcune info?08:04
giovanni_ciao08:05
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MadeyeHey, guys, I'm into web apps but I want to digg more into desktop apps and I'm thinking of QT08:05
Madeyeany idea where to start?08:06
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Madeyeany official guide/book for QT and KDE?08:06
guiguizerohi all08:06
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fdovingMadeye: http://developer.kde.org/ have some nice info. so does http://doc.trolltech.com08:07
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intelikeyfdoving my final thought on the matter is this, apt should have barrowed some code from 'mc' on that point.   mc seems to use hardlinks when possable and copys when a hardlink fails.08:07
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fdovingintelikey: that would be optimal, submit a patch :)08:07
inamgiovanni_, scriva /join # kubuntu-it08:07
Madeyefdoving, thank you, one more question, is QT a KDE thingy ? or a stand alone programming language and KDE adapting it ?08:07
snikkergiovanni_: per le info devi andare nel canale italiano di kubuntu o ubuntu, qui i lsupporto  solo in inglese08:08
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fdovingMadeye: QT is a standalone API (not a language), KDE uses it.08:08
intelikeyfdoving i wouldn't know where to start.   i dont "C"   :)08:08
pirois it me or does ext3 take up more space in ntfs after formatting? i imagine so for journaling.08:08
MadeyeAPI not a language08:08
Madeyehmm interesting08:08
MotorCityMadManThe following packages have been kept back:kontact ksysguard ksysguardd Reason is ?08:08
thomas__Serveur FR ????????08:08
guiguizerovive la france lol08:09
fdoving!fr | thomas__08:09
ubotuthomas__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:09
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fdovingpiro: often 5% is reserved to the super user. that way regular users can't fill the disk 100% and make the system die.08:09
MotorCityMadManpackages have been kept back:kontact ksysguard ksysguardd    Reason is ?08:10
fdovingpiro: you can tune that to something more sensible. 'sudo tune2fs -m1 /dev/device' where -m1 is 1 percent. -m2 for 2.. and so on. /dev/device must be replaced with your ext3 device.08:11
intelikeypiro which is totally ignored when installing things, because you are always root when installing so the extra 5% is writen anyway.08:11
MotorCityMadManbug's ? lady bug's ? lighting bug's ?08:11
intelikeyT U M B L E  bugs   :)08:12
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MotorCityMadMantumble weeds ?08:12
singinmatt13ok...so i can't login to my desktop anymore.  i'm running edgy.  this morning changed the file permissions on an unused file so that i could delete it.  It was a simple install file i'd never used.  well...my trash bin freaked out, and after i rebooted, it wouldn't log in inside kdm anymore.  It goes blank and then goes straight back to kdm08:12
intelikeytumble bug,  more propperly known as the 'dung beetle'08:13
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MotorCityMadManwhy packages held back ?08:13
Dr_willistry logging into the Console yet?08:13
singinmatt13works08:13
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MotorCityMadMannot pretty yet ?08:13
singinmatt13i can login on the console all i want08:13
singinmatt13just not inside kdm08:14
MotorCityMadMan<-brain is on fire over held back packages08:14
hectorhi, i'm new here08:14
hectorwhat is this??08:14
samiam010203its kubuntu baby!08:15
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hectorit's a chat, isn't it??08:15
samiam010203yes08:15
samiam010203about kubuntu linux08:15
samiam010203u use it08:15
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hectoryeah08:15
samiam010203cool08:15
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hectorand where you from people??08:15
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hectori'm from mexico08:15
samiam010203nyc08:16
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hectorgreat08:16
inambangalore, india08:16
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dettoaltrimenti_moscow, russia08:16
hectorwoooooos, that's great08:16
andreasw!de08:16
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:16
hector:|08:16
MotorCityMadMani am from it's a mad mad world08:16
hectori'll go to russia in summer08:16
BluesKajOntario Canada08:16
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dettoaltrimenti_cool- summer is a good time to come08:17
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blacksabbath_hi08:17
aztun_hi08:17
hectorreally??? it is to cold???08:17
hector:s08:17
italbirhi08:17
samiam010203hello08:17
MarcoPausnikker and mefisto__:  the two parts are supposed to be joined with hjsplit or simlar, that's why! -_-08:17
blacksabbath_finaly i ave put net in my kubuntu!!!!08:17
dettoaltrimenti_do you use celcius or fahrenheit in meico08:18
hectorfarenheit08:18
_6StringKng_anyone recommend some cool games for kubuntu?08:18
aztun_anyone installed beryl with intel and kubuntu?08:18
samiam010203yes08:18
intelikeyMotorCityMadMan there are several reasons that packages will be held back    1. part of the base system when updates are avalable only get updated with a "dist-upgrade"   2. packages installed from non-ubuntu repositories can cause packages they depend on to be held back   3. apt or dpkg can mark some packages as 'held' if asked to by any command/script (such as the install script of another package)08:18
samiam010203i have beryl with nvida08:18
aztun_it works great for me but video doesnt works ok08:18
blacksabbath_how i intall games in kubunto????08:18
dettoaltrimenti_it's 18 degrees right now- this time last year it was -40, so it depends08:18
samiam010203interinstructions can be had on the beryl wiki08:18
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MuJblacksabbath_: same way as anything else08:18
blacksabbath_i m a newbby08:19
MotorCityMadManintelikey| ty for your respond's08:19
inamdetto, global warming, eh?08:19
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moparisthebestyou know how bash saves the last commands you performed and you can get to them by pressing up in the terminal?08:19
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dettoaltrimenti_blacksabbath_ open adept manager and search for tremulous, and download that08:19
blacksabbath_is era any one portuguese/brazilian???08:19
moparisthebestis there a place it saves those to so I can read them?08:19
snikkerMarcoPau: oh, i understand... but it's strange mode to split a rar file :-) thanks for said it08:19
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samiam010203http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Beryl.2FAIGLX_.28Intel_i915.2908:20
MarcoPausnikker: veramente, che boiata08:20
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MuJmoparisthebest: ~/.bash_history08:20
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dettoaltrimenti_inam- who knows, last year was abnormally cold and this year is a little warmer than is usual08:20
BluesKajdunno, global warming kinda disappeared here on jan 1508:20
blacksabbath_ta ka algum portugues/brazileiro????08:20
moparisthebestthanks MuJ08:20
eric__hey all08:20
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mehdi_i want to know if that's possible to upgrade my kubuntu version to kubuntu 6.x with apt ????08:20
BluesKaj!pt08:20
ubotupt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.08:20
snikkerMarcoPau: sei italiano?08:20
hectorwell it sounds good08:20
MarcoPausnikker: eh s08:21
BluesKaj!br08:21
dettoaltrimenti_blueskaj- I got x windows up and running again, but the graphics are acting very poorly and I think I need that nvidia driver- did you look at those directions I sent a link to?08:21
MarcoPausnikker: non so quanto marco sia usato all'estero... olanda, poi boh08:21
MarcoPau:)08:21
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intelikeyMotorCityMadMan yes.   but i'm not sure where  ....    man dpkg     search hold08:21
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snikkerMarcoPau: bhe anche in germania e austria ci sono un bel po' di marco...08:21
LambSlayerjoin #ubuntu-effects08:22
LambSlayertoops08:22
eric__can anyone here help with compression on kde?08:22
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MarcoPausnikker: non usano solo markus?08:22
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intelikeyMotorCityMadMan if you are not familear with searching in less (the pager that the man command uses)   it's    /   or   ?   to search forward or backward respectively08:22
hectorwell guys, nice to meet you, it was fun, but i must go on on my way:p08:22
hectorciaooo08:22
dettoaltrimenti_bye hector08:22
snikkerMarcoPau: usano anche marco...08:22
hectorbye dettoaltrimenti08:22
inamadios amigo08:22
pirofdoving: intelikey: thanks for the info08:22
hectorNos vemos inam;)08:23
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MarcoPausnikker: ah ecco, come i fiamminghi08:23
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eric__anyone...?08:23
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intelikeypiro np.    all my life, people been telling me "you're full of IT"  so i figured i should share it if i was really that full of "IT"   :)08:24
inamok people, i've decided to play with fire (grub, actually)... if all goes well, i will log back to this channel in 10 mins... otherwise, see you all in another life :)08:24
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defiantCan someone please help me install flash in Firefox for a 64bit system08:25
MotorCityMadManintelikey|over me as of this date/next path will be reading and ty for your time and kindness08:25
dettoaltrimenti_!nvidia08:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:26
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BluesKajdettoaltrimenti_, sorry i was away from the KB for a few mins08:27
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slow-motionhow can i see whats the name of my video card is?08:28
[StingRay] Hi, stdin :). How are you?08:28
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dettoaltrimenti_blueskaj it's ok- I've been reading about it- is it true that no one will help me install nvidia drivers?08:29
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jhutchins!mp3 | defiant08:29
ubotudefiant: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:29
maerskcant use adept manager anymore ,because says it used by another program08:29
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intelikeyi'll be dl'ing 32m of updates now   (over 56k dialup that leaves no room for chat)  so i'll be back in a few hours maybe.08:29
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maerski tryed with the command kill but it wont work08:29
maerskcan somebody help me ?08:29
weedyeah08:29
fdoving!adept crash fix | maersk08:29
ubotumaersk: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:29
BluesKajwell dettoaltrimenti_, the site is there for you to follow instructions , prolly better than we can give you08:29
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maerskthx , i try08:30
jhutchinseric__: What do you want to know about compression?08:30
dade__lol my first irc08:30
froudhi, I am looking fo rlibpst from edgy universe by cant see it in the repos. Anyone know where I can get it?08:30
frouds/rlibpst/libpst08:31
dade__s/rlibpst/libpst08:31
jhutchins!find libpst08:31
ubotuFound: libpstoedit-dev, libpstoedit0c2a, libpstreams-dev08:31
froudjhutchins: I find http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libpst&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all08:33
froudjhutchins: but none of those are libpst08:33
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froudjhutchins: yet I did find it in warty08:34
froudhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/source/libpst08:34
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froudand http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/source/libpst08:34
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froudat above URLs08:34
maerskthx, for all ,it worked !!08:34
weedI luv teh windowz08:35
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esaymanyone here got conky running right on kde?08:37
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jhutchinsfroud: It's most likely been replaced or incorporated in something else.08:39
Gast573hi08:39
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Gast573gibt es hier wen der vielleicht etwas weniger arrogant ist und mir dau vielleicht helfen kann?!08:40
voicuany ideas on scripting kopete? python, ruby, what do you suggest?08:40
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Gast573na dann halt nich08:40
jhutchinsfroud: try pt-file search libpst08:41
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jhutchinsfroud: try apt-file search libpst08:41
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jhutchinsde! | Gast57308:41
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eric__hallo Gast57308:41
jhutchins!de | Gast57308:41
ubotuGast573: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:41
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jhutchinsGast573: Wer sprechen nur ein bischen deutsch hier.08:42
eric__Ich08:42
jhutchinseric__: Did you have a question?08:42
MisterQhello, I'm new to linux08:43
eric__ja, I did08:43
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eric__trying to compress a folder in kde08:43
voicuMisterQ: that's nice, problems or something?08:43
MisterQyeah...just install ubuntu on my ps308:44
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jhutchinseric__: I allways do that stuff from the command line, but it looks pretty easy, right click, choose your poison.08:44
MisterQcan't open the install/unistall programs (adept?) to install programs08:44
jhutchinsMisterQ: ubuntu or kubuntu?08:44
MisterQkubuntu08:44
eric__yes, I did.. altho the file is no smaller than when it was uncompressed08:44
eric__noo ? i know..08:45
eric__*noob08:45
froudjhutchins: found it, it's now called readpst08:45
MisterQi was messing with source.list to get backport08:45
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jhutchinsfroud: Excellent!  How did you find it?08:45
jrattnerQuestion: How can I add animation  and "eye-candy" to my Kubuntu setup?08:45
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jhutchins!easysource | MisterQ08:45
defiantok well since I can't get flash for ff to work on a 64bit system, can someone assist me in installing wine so I can use Internet Explorer please08:45
ubotuMisterQ: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:45
MisterQthanks08:45
jhutchinsMisterQ: That page will generate a new source list for you.08:45
jhutchins!wine | defiant08:46
ubotudefiant: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:46
defiantI know that but I cannot get it installed08:46
jhutchinsdefiant: There are a lot of ways to cope with the fact that the 64bit windows stuff isn't ported yet, most people just run in 32 bit unless they REALLY REALLY need the 64, then they dual boot.08:46
jhutchinsdefiant: What's wrong with apt-get install wine?08:47
defiantI cannot install 32bit Kubuntu for somereason it will not let me08:47
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froudjhutchins: I just searched for outlook08:48
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johny_|movix08:48
johny_!movix08:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about movix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:48
froudjhutchins: I am converting an outlook pst to kmail08:48
johny_!emovix08:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emovix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:48
jhutchins!find emovix08:49
ubotuPackage/file emovix does not exist in edgy08:49
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jhutchinsjohny_: Looks like you're gonna have to resort to google.08:49
jrattnerQuestion: How can I add animation  and "eye-candy" to my Kubuntu setup?08:50
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johny_jhutchins: I'm not sure, just wanted to see whether is there any help of that matter08:51
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johny_jhutchins: Have alittle problem withg that mini - distro "emovix08:52
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MisterQjhutchins: what do i do with the generated source list?08:52
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jhutchinsjohny_: maybe #emovix ?08:52
jhutchinsMisterQ: You need to replace the old source list with it.08:53
MisterQ*noob*...how do i do that?08:53
MisterQtype it in?08:53
jhutchinsMisterQ: You can edit the source list file and copy-and-paste the text, you can save the generated text and copy it to the correct dir with correct permissions... which sounds easier to you?08:53
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MisterQcopy and paste08:54
jukaHI!08:54
jhutchinsMisterQ: Do you have a favorite linux text editor?08:54
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jukajust a quick one,08:54
jukai want "sudo nvclock -f -F 25" to start with linux!08:54
adydasjeds my favourite text editor08:54
jukas I don't have to type it every time08:54
adydas!alias08:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alias - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:55
jhutchinsjuka: What does that do?08:55
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johny_adydas: what are you looking for about alias08:55
adydasjuka: http://www.ss64.com/bash/alias.html08:55
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jhutchinsadydas: You realise that an alias still means he has to issue some command.08:56
jukaanywhere from 10% to 100% fanspeed08:56
jhutchinsjuka: Cool.08:56
johny_!search bash08:56
ubotuFound: dash, forkbomb, bash08:56
MisterQjhutchins; that application still will not open08:56
jhutchinsjuka: I would put it in the startup script myself.08:56
adydaswhat what i could see he was asking for a way to shorten it08:56
adydasas a command08:56
jhutchinsMisterQ: Which application?08:56
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MisterQadd/remove programs from the kmenu08:57
jhutchinsadydas: Oh, yeah, or make a tiny script out of it, or put it in an icon.08:57
jukastartup script?08:57
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jhutchinsMisterQ: Ok, you replace /etc/apt/sources.list with the generated file, you do apt-get update, then what?08:57
jukaand, which FTP client do you reccomend?08:57
adydashe never asked how to put it as a startup script08:57
jhutchinsjuka: I usually either use wget or just use konqueror.08:58
MisterQhaven't updated yet08:58
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jukauh... that's like in windows?08:58
jukaftp://username:pass@www.site.com ?08:59
rylasasin_lol@windows08:59
jhutchinsjuka: edit /etc/init.d/rc.local, put it at the end.  You need to edit with kdesu or sudo, but you don't need the sudo on the command.08:59
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Dr_willisactually not at the end... any commands need to be befor the exit 0 command. :)09:00
jhutchinsjuka:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html09:00
jhutchinsDr_willis: Is that the right place for customized commands?09:00
Dr_willisjhutchins,  depends on what the command is doing...09:00
Dr_willissetting your wallpaper, no... loading some module, or service.. yes.09:01
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Dr_willisor some other tweak09:01
jhutchinsRight, system commands.09:01
Dr_willistheres no need for 'sudo' and you 'might' want to end the commands with & in case they dont return09:01
Dr_willisso it depends on what the command is and what its doing.09:01
jukaWarning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/init.d/rc.local" -- using "application/*"09:01
jukaError: no "edit" mailcap rules found for type "application/*"09:01
MisterQjhutchins: the applications still won't open. do i have to enable security and updates or something?09:02
jukawhen i type in edit /etc/init.d/rc.local09:02
jhutchinsMisterQ: Did apt-get update work?09:02
MisterQyeah09:02
jhutchinsMisterQ: What error do you get?09:02
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MisterQi don't get an error. i get the hour glass and no window pops up09:03
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Dr_willis!ksudo09:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ksudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:03
Dr_willis!kdeus09:03
Dr_willis!kdeus09:03
jhutchinsjuka: Heh.  edit is a mail utility, won't edit a file.09:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdeus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:03
Dr_willisGrr09:03
Dr_willis!kdesu09:03
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo09:03
SlackRat!kdesu09:03
Dr_willisjuka,  so use 'kdesu edit /whatever/'09:03
jhutchinsMisterQ: What is it you want to install?09:04
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jhutchinsDr_willis: I don't think edit's gonna do what he wants...09:04
jukaDr_willis: "Failed to open device!"09:04
jukawtf? :(((((((09:04
Dr_willisthats from the touchpad entry in the xorg.conf09:04
Dr_willisdid the editor startup?09:04
jukano :(09:05
Dr_willisI perfer console based editors - its worth wile learning how to use one09:05
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ksnipaI just installed superkaramba when I run any themes I get a black place holder instead of seeing the applet09:05
MisterQflash for the browser, divx and xvid to view videos off a dvd09:05
ksnipaany ideas?09:05
Dr_willissudo nano /etc/rc.local09:05
Dr_willisor whatever it is.09:05
jhutchinsjuka: Do you know what a text editor is?09:06
Dr_willisor install mc, and use mcedit09:06
jukanotepad? :)09:06
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jukakwrite i guess09:06
jhutchinsjuka: There are dozens in linux.09:06
SlackRatkate09:06
SlackRatkedit09:06
SlackRatpico09:06
jhutchinskate works - kdesu kate /etc/init.d/rc.local09:06
SlackRator is it nano in kubuntu?09:06
jhutchinsSlackRat: Both09:07
jukauh... i just wrote kwrite and it opened a text editor09:07
jhutchinsvi, emacs09:07
jukashould i use kdesu kwrite /etc...09:07
juka?09:07
jhutchinsjuka: Right, but you want the other command.09:07
SlackRati figured out the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu.....09:07
jhutchinsjuka: yes.  kdesu sayd "do it as root".09:07
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jukawhat about sudo then?09:07
jhutchinsPassing the file name saves having to brows for it.09:07
SlackRatnot for gui apps09:07
jhutchinssudo is only for command line applications.09:07
jhutchinsrunning GUI apps with sudo can kill your system.09:08
MisterQjhutchins: can i just install another package manager like synaptics? or something09:08
jukauhhhhh... it opened the editor but now it says failed to open device and i cannot get to write commands anymore09:08
jhutchinsMisterQ: Well, you already have a perfectly good command line package manager.09:08
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Dr_willisjhutchins,  you SURE its not /etc/rc.local ? it sure seems to be /etc/rc.local here....09:08
jhutchinsDr_willis: Seems like I have both.09:09
Dr_willisjhutchins,  you are having him edit the init script.. not the rc.local file that gets ran. :)09:09
SlackRator, go thru the graphical screens from home up to / find etc, open it, open the file you want to edit and find the menu action 'edit as root'09:09
Dr_willisyou want commands in /etc/rc.local09:09
jhutchinsjuka: Probably the one you want to edit is /etc/rc.local, not the other one.09:09
SlackRatwhich will get you acquainted with your file sytem09:09
juka:)09:09
moiseshey guys. I want to get rid of all the data related to amarok - like, my collection list and such. but there's no ~/.amarok folder. how do i do it09:09
jhutchinsSorry, I come from another linux univers.09:10
Dr_willismoises,  its in the .kde dir somewhere09:10
SlackRatwhich one hutchins?09:10
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jhutchinsRedhat/Mandriva(SuSE).09:10
moisesthanks09:10
jrattnerQuestion: how do i install an icon theme that i download from KDE look09:10
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moisesnoob question - where is the .kde folder09:10
SlackRatah, yeah the edit as root option ive only noticed on kubuntu09:10
MadRushif you have a swap partition activated, should it show up when you do a 'dh'?09:11
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Dr_willis!themes09:11
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy09:11
SlackRatlocate .kde09:11
Dr_willischeck out !changethemes09:11
Dr_willis.kde is in you rusers home dir09:11
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jhutchinsapt-get --purge remove packagename - removes a installed package (configfiles will also be removed)09:11
jrattner!changethemes09:12
ubotu[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu09:12
Dr_willis--purge will NOT remove config files in the users home dirs.09:12
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blue|palmDoes anybody here have experience building the OGRE library version (1.2.5 DAGON) on kubuntu edgy?09:13
Dr_willisnever heard of it blue|palm09:13
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Dr_willishaving some specific problem? we may be able to help09:13
moisesnothing in this folder09:13
moisesrelated to amarok at least09:13
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Dr_willisall kde programs keep their settings and stuff some where in the nested maze of .kde09:14
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singinmatt13hey, a while ago when i would log in to kubuntu (edgy) it would loop back to kdm.  NOW when i log in it brings up a session of konsole without any window09:14
Dr_willistry renaming .kde to somthing else.. and see :) if amarok is one of the odd ones it might not store things there... but that would be real real odd.09:15
SlackRati figured out the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu.....09:15
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Dr_willis~/.kde/share/apps/amarok$09:15
Dr_willisright where i figured it would be. :)09:16
Dr_willisSlackRat,  one has kde one has gnome? :)09:16
moisesfound it =)09:16
jrattnerQuestion: does mail-notification work in KDE as well as gnome?09:16
SlackRatwell besides that09:16
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SlackRatkubuntu is so much cooler than ubuntu  :-P09:16
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kayhi everyone09:18
singinmatt13i'll say it again.  a while ago when i would log in to kubuntu (edgy) it would loop back to kdm.  NOW when i log in it brings up a session of konsole without any window09:18
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binks_singinmatt13: have you no x at all09:18
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singinmatt13well kdm runs so i'd assume x is running09:19
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binks_singinmatt13: try typeing startx at the console09:19
binks_arr ok sorry09:19
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kayCould anybody help me here please? I have s strange problem with my keyboard. And I don't know what to do with.09:19
binks_kay: whats the prob09:20
kayI have USB keyboard09:20
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eXistenZWhere can I find posted screenshots of kubuntu desktops?09:20
binks_singinmatt13: how did you install kdm09:20
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kayAnd it's not working at all09:20
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Dr_williseXistenZ,  try kubuntu.org ?09:20
Dr_williseXistenZ,  or kde-look.org09:20
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kayI tried some things found i forums, they are not working09:20
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caris_mereKontact gives me an error when starting up (first time it's been started), signal 11 SIGSEGV09:21
binks_!keyboard | kay09:21
ubotukay: To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts09:21
singinmatt13binks_: that was when i originally installed kub edgy through the alternate install cd09:21
jrattnerHow do i get a program to start with every kde session?09:21
Dr_williskay,  you are refering to a normal usb keyboard?09:21
Dr_willisjrattner,  .kde/Autostart dir.. make some links in there.. or scripts09:21
kayno, let me explain09:21
kayit is usual USB keyboard09:21
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kayand the prblem is that I maged it to work09:21
kaybut after ligin09:21
jrattnerDr_willis, can i just drag an icon into that folder?09:22
Dr_willisjrattner,  it can take .desktop files also.. try it and see.09:22
kayit is not working on ligin screen neither in console09:22
jrattnerDr_willis, do i want to copy or link there? or does it not matter09:22
Dr_willisjrattner,  but most kde apps 'should' rember/save the session   and restart09:22
binks_singinmatt13: sorry i dont use the alt cd install but you could try changing session type09:22
kaya have usbhid loaded at startup, but no change09:22
Dr_willisjrattner,  dont think it matters09:22
singinmatt13binks_: tried09:23
Dr_williskay,  you got it working 'somehow' then on the next reboot.. it failed to work?09:23
singinmatt13binks_: it's a kde problem09:23
singinmatt13binks_: it may have to do w/ permissions09:23
binks_so remove and reinstall kde09:23
kayno, it works everytime, after sucesful login09:23
jrattnerDr_willis, Last question, how can I make my session lock when I close my laptop screen09:23
eXistenZbinks_, What font do you use in KDE?09:23
kaythat's mean after KDE loadup09:24
Dr_willisjrattner,  no idea.. i hate that feature. :)09:24
Dr_willisjrattner,  to be honest.. i thought that was the default.. whichis why i hated it.09:24
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binks_eXistenZ: i run theme manager why09:24
jrattnerhmmm09:24
binks_i cant remember the font09:24
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kayI don't know why, but i seems, that USB is not powerup, but after login it starts09:24
eXistenZbinks_, beryl?09:24
singinmatt13binks_: not an option at the moment09:25
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binks_eXistenZ: yes beryl09:25
binks_but not xgl09:25
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moisesone more question guys. I want to change my keyboard system to one that works with portuguese - with accents, and all that09:25
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singinmatt13binks_: would it help you to know that the fglrx module won't load?09:26
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binks_singinmatt13: what error you getting09:26
binks_singinmatt13: which ati card you got09:26
Dr_williskay,  im missing somthing here.. how do you login with no keyboard?09:26
kayswitch to ps/2 keyboard09:26
kaythen put it back as USB09:26
kayit's not very comfortable09:27
fritzhey I installed easyubuntu and I get nothing09:27
Dr_willisleave them both plugged in and see what happens.09:27
BluesKaj!pt>moises09:27
Dr_williseasyubuntu is not a good idea. :)09:27
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singinmatt13binks_: "FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx"09:27
fritzwhat do I do from there09:27
underdog5004surgy, it didn't work...again09:27
Dr_williskay,  could also try different usb ports.09:27
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BluesKaj!pt > moises09:27
binks_singinmatt13: what tutorial did u follow for fglrx install09:27
Dr_willisfritz,  read about easyubuntu at the easyubuntu web site?  or perhaps #easyubuntu09:27
Dr_willis#easyubuntu09:28
Dr_willis!easyubuntu09:28
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu09:28
kayI tried that09:28
kayno change09:28
singinmatt13binks_: radeon xpress 200M and.....i'm not remembering at the moment on the tut09:28
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fritzforgot about the channel09:28
xenolif i have "ati" driver installed can i run beryl, xgl or aiglx?09:28
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fritzthenks09:28
moiseshm - unfortunately, my portuguese isn't great, but i'll look into that, thanks09:28
binks_xenol: yes i do09:28
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xenolbinks_:  and which one09:28
jrattnerDoes Anyone know how to make my screen lock when I close my lap top lid09:29
Dr_williskay,  on this box.. the USB keybaords dont work for me in GRUB but they do work in the bios screen, and once linux starts. :) so i got a ps2 keyboard also.09:29
binks_xenol: beryl and if i can be arsed to start it xgl09:29
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xenolbinks_:  i have a bit older gpu09:29
Dr_willisjrattner,  there are some laptop specific packages that may enable that fgeature. or check the ubuntu/kubuntu forums/wiki pages. they have a section on laptops09:29
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binks_!ati | singinmatt1309:29
ubotusinginmatt13: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:29
xenolbinks_:  will beryl run with no problem on radeon 9600 pro?09:29
Dr_willisjrattner,  last i checked on my laptop. i close the lid. it then asks for a password to get back in.09:29
jrattnerhmm weird09:30
binks_xenol: i have a 9600 xt09:30
Dr_willisjrattner,  and i hate the feature. :)09:30
kayDr_willis: I think about it, but it is no solution09:30
BluesKajsinginmatt13, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b09:30
Dr_willisjrattner,  but THEN i noticed that suspend actually started working on that laptop. weee.09:30
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singinmatt13binks_: that's the tut i used09:30
Dr_williskay,  check the dmesg logs befor/after the keyboard starts working.09:30
jrattnerheheh09:30
xenolbinks_:  did u installed binary drivers?09:30
FordPrefect_NZyo. anyone know if its possible to disable the MOTD from showing in konversation? thx in advance :)09:31
binks_singinmatt13:  try th one BluesKaj posted09:31
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binks_xenol: yes i have fglrx fron ati09:31
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kayDr_willis: could you please give me advice where they are located?09:31
adydasBloody newzealanders09:31
kaythanks09:31
singinmatt13that may not even be the problem09:31
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Dr_williskay,  use the 'dmesg' command :)09:31
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binks_no but it may be singinmatt1309:31
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Dr_willisdmesg, plug in the thing.. dmesg again and look at the end.09:31
singinmatt13binks_: shall try09:32
binks_singinmatt13: allways fix whats broken first then look for gremlins09:32
kuhnihallo09:32
xenolbinks_:  did u have any probs with installing it?09:32
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kayI'll try it, thanks. But I still don't get why USB si activating after ogin, and not during boot09:33
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Dr_williskay,  you do realize that the kdm screen shows up.. and some things are STILL actually strating up in the background. wait a min or so and see if it kicks in?09:33
Dr_willisthey do it that way so the system 'seems' to boot faster. :)09:33
kayyes, I wait for a while, but no effect09:34
Dr_williscould boot to the console mode. (no kdm) and see if it works after a bit.09:34
kaybut I try to reebot and try it again09:34
[R] eaperi need help with my vga card :(09:34
Dr_willisit may be X is somehow kicking it in the head to activate09:34
binks_xenol: yes i had to delete the lines that ref to wacom drivers09:34
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kayDr_willes: in console there is the same problem09:34
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xenolbinks_: was it difficult to do it?09:35
binks_no very easy xenol09:35
kayDr_willis:  it doesn't work, but after login it works09:35
Dr_williskay,  i would be checking dmesg for any interesting issues..09:35
xenolbinks_:  so u just edited xorg.conf09:35
binks_xenol: yes09:35
kayok I am on it09:35
binks_about 6 lines to delete09:35
shawarmaHi! If you want to edit a file as root under Kubuntu, how do you do it? "sudo some-kde-editor /foo/bar" from a terminal, perhaps?09:35
kaybut I need resrt09:35
kayrestart :)09:35
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xenolbinks_:  and in case i do smth wrong is it enough to do sudo reconfigure xorg.conf?09:35
kaybrb09:36
Dr_willisthat would be REAL REAL odd if you had to login: through the console with 1 keybord.. THEN the other  starts working  in the console.09:36
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jrattnerWhat is the command to reconfigure X? sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xor?09:36
jrattneror something?09:36
binks_shawarma: sudo kate file/path09:36
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shawarmajrattner: No space between dpkg and -reconfigure09:36
xenolshawarma:  kdesu kate /foo/bar09:36
shawarmabinks_: kate is the canonical editor?09:36
shawarmabinks_, xenol: Thanks!09:36
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mzanfardinoI've recently installed kubuntu 6.10 and I'm using a dual-head video adapter (nvidia gfx 5600).  I've configured my login account to load each of my two monitors with it's own desktop (as opposed to a twin-view configuration).  I want both desktops to have the identical KDE layout.  How do I achieve this?09:36
SlackRatkdesu kate etc....since youre firing up a gui editor09:36
binks_shawarma: ? i dont no its just there09:36
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xenolbinks_:  can u give me web where i can see how to install flgrx driver plox09:37
[R] eaperDr_willis: please take a look at this http://www.4shared.com/file/10843337/21397191/Archive.html09:37
SlackRator there is a function on the menu, if you want to go the gui window you wish to edit and open he folder and click on action/ edit as root09:37
binks_!ati | xenol09:37
ubotuxenol: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:37
duckdownHey all... How can I foce a program that doesn't have built-in SOCKS firewall support to route all of its traffic through mine?  Like I have a SOCKS proxy listening on localhost:1234 , but Opera web browser has no SOCKS support (lame.)  I seem to remember a program like 'socksify' or something that you can prefix the program you want to run with.. (It's not socksify though, cause I installed it and the manpage shows nothing like tha09:37
[R] eapermy vga just doesnt work right09:37
duckdownt)09:37
xenolbinks_:  thx09:37
maerskwhat is the comand line  for unrar ?09:38
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xenolmaersk:  man unrar09:38
Dr_willis[R] eaper,  care to give me a summary? :) i dont want to go see some  alt.binary.nurse.erotica  pics.. :)09:38
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Dr_willis!unrar09:38
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free09:38
maerskwhat is the comand line  for unrar ?09:38
binks_unrar e my/file maersk09:38
Dr_willis!unp09:38
ubotuunp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB09:38
Dr_willisor unrar X i think.. or is it i x09:38
[R] eaperDr_willis: xorg.conf , Xorg.0.log kern.log09:38
Dr_williswhen in doubt read the docs.. :)09:38
singinmatt13binks_: i noticed that most of the stuff in the tutorial did nothing, as in most of it had already been done.  i still can't log in fully, and fglrx still won't load.09:39
Dr_willis[R] eaper,  dident want to put them on a pastebin site?09:39
[R] eaperwhat is that?? :S09:39
binks_singinmatt13: whats in the xorg log09:39
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singinmatt13binks_: also the output of fglrxinfo shows a bunch of info about mesa3d and nothign about ati anything09:40
singinmatt13binks_: file path to that log?09:40
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binks_singinmatt13: we need to fglrx working is fglrx listed in xorg.conf09:40
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binks_!locate | singinmatt1309:41
Dr_willis!pastebin09:41
binks_ok i didnt work09:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:41
binks_singinmatt13: /etc/X11/xorg.09:41
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singinmatt13binks_: inside "Section "Module"" ?09:42
binks_just a sec its been a while09:42
[R] eaperok, there is my xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6448/09:42
singinmatt13binks_: there is glx inside the Modules section and an fglrx in the Device section09:43
singinmatt13the one in Device is labeled Driver09:43
binks_singinmatt13: that seems ok just gis a sec09:44
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binks_[R] eaper: remind me xorg.log is09:44
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[R] eaperxorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6450/09:45
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Tm_T!root09:45
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:45
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Tm_THmm, not that.09:45
Tm_Troot: Anyway, you shouldn't irc as root.09:46
xenolbinks_:  and wat shoudl i install XGL od AIGLX?09:47
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binks_xenol: i havent tried aiglx09:47
xenolbinks_:  so only xgl09:47
singinmatt13binks_: am rebooting as it says to because fglrxinfo came out bad09:47
xenolbinks_:  well xgl = beryl ?09:47
binks_!windowmanager09:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about windowmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:48
binks_!xgl | xenol09:48
ubotuxenol: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:48
SlackRatTM, some channels even kick you if you log in as root, might be an idea to use here, with the warning, you have signed in as root, please log back into this channel as user.....09:48
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binks_xenol: not quite no09:48
xenolbinks_:  well any difference between xgl and beryl?09:48
Dr_willisI think it should be a server thing.. :)09:48
binks_xenol: different thing09:49
binks_altogether09:49
Dr_willisbut the users that irc as root.. are not smart enough normally to realize what they are doing thats 'wrong'09:49
binks_berly is a theme manager xgl is a window manager09:49
SlackRatthats why some channels kick you with the explicit instructions how dangerous it is and please retry as non root09:49
dwidmannbinks_ not quite09:50
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SlackRatit happens on some distros where there is a root acct and you're just not thinking atm09:50
dwidmannxgl is an x server, beryl is a window manager, emerald is a theme manager09:50
binks_dwidmann: sorry my knowledge is small in this field09:50
SlackRat<blushes>09:50
binks_dwidmann: so xgl replaces xorg ??09:51
linuxworldhello im trying to burn a iso of a live distro whit k3b but i get error every time i use 4 x and tryied tao and sao the checksum corrispond so what's wrong?09:51
SlackRatwow, this is such a sane channel compared to the monster sized #ubuntu...heh09:51
dwidmannyes and  no ... the gist I got out of it is that xgl is basically a hacked Xorg running overtop of opengl ...09:51
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Dr_willisSlackRat,  thats why i hang here more.09:52
Dr_willis:)09:52
dwidmannI think XGL requires Xorg really09:52
linuxworldcan u help me whit k3b?09:52
SlackRat:D09:52
binks_dwidmann: just to confuse me even more09:52
binks_:):)09:52
SlackRatwhats wrong with K3b?09:52
phobiacis there anything that can notify me of new mail (that also works with gmail?) I don't want a full email client, just something that tells me when I have a new mail.09:52
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xenoloh thx09:52
phobiac+ It would be awesome if it could check multiple accounts.09:53
xenoli g2g bb09:53
binks_!k3b | SlackRat09:53
ubotuSlackRat: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto09:53
dwidmannbinks: I know,  it confuses me a little too, until I sit back, read for hours on end, and think about it.09:53
SlackRatbinks, that wasnt a question, someone else hoad a quieston09:53
binks_dwidmann: lol nice one09:53
linuxworldim trying to burn the iso of pclinuxos 2007 whit k3b but gives me error every time whit both tao and sao i use 4x and checksum are same can u help?09:53
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binks_SlackRat: sorry09:53
SlackRatnp09:53
binks_linuxworld: are the discs ok09:54
dwidmannlinuxworld: what error?09:54
SlackRatlinuxworld, have you burned with it before without problems?09:54
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linuxworldno it's 1 time i use it on mandriva09:55
binks_linuxworld: which distro you on at the moment09:55
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singinmatt13binks_: no luck...i changed the Composite in xorg.conf to false instead of 0, and i rebooted.  maybe it will work09:55
Dr_willisi thought false = 009:55
binks_singinmatt13: wait a sec09:55
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linuxworldmandriva binks09:56
linuxworldcan u help?09:56
linuxworldthe powerpack 200709:57
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SlackRatyou may have to run the K3b setup program if there is one on the DrakMenus09:57
linuxworldhurraaaaaaaaaa09:58
linuxworldsolved it's doing it whit RAW09:58
linuxworldlet's hope everything goes right lucky i have cdrw09:58
linuxworldso can make mistakes09:58
SlackRatheh09:58
linuxworldare u slackrat from matt's chan?09:58
SlackRatmatts as in pcbsd?09:58
linuxworldyes09:59
linuxworldhehe it's me my friend09:59
linuxworlddistro09:59
SlackRatyup09:59
SlackRatcool09:59
SlackRatgreat distro they put out09:59
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Dr_williswell bbl10:00
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binks_SlackRat: remove the wacom bits from xorg.conf10:00
binks_night all csi comin on10:00
binks_SlackRat: sorry10:00
Zorixhey everyone.. i just installed kubuntu again after a long time and ive noticed that after i installed nvidia binary drivers and beryl that when i installed ut2004 linux it runs terrible.. and it wasnt like this before.. any idea where i should look to speed it up10:01
SlackRatyou should actually make sure the tab completion has the right name, lol10:01
binks_singinmatt13: remove the wacom bits from xorg.conf10:01
linuxworldim about to pass to pclinuxos 2007 slack it's the best for my advise10:01
SlackRatits nice to start on, but i got bored in day or so....good starter distro10:01
SlackRatless confusing than drake , but with many of the same features10:02
jhutchinsZorix: beryl is very alpha, very unstable, and very resource intensive.  It's meant to compete with vista on similar hardware.10:02
etylloi have problems with fps in counter-strike, could somebody help me?10:02
jhutchinsZorix: You want to speed up your system, turn off beryl.10:02
Zorixright but i turned it back to kwin and it was still slow10:02
singinmatt13binks_: done10:03
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linuxworldim trying this mandriva powerpack 2007 slack10:04
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linuxworldbut don't like it much10:04
XenThraL!br10:04
ubotupt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.10:04
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SlackRatdepends on what you want from your distro10:07
SlackRati used mandriva a few years back10:07
SlackRathated their whole members get special treatment marketing10:07
BluesKajmandriva didn't do much for me10:07
SlackRatit was quick and configurable more than redhat at the time10:08
BluesKajgot a pirated copy of the enterprise edition of mandriva from an enthusiast but not my cuppa tea10:08
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SlackRatcompiled to a 586 arch10:08
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SlackRatdid someone just enter as root, or is that just the nick?10:10
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linuxworldu advise me slack to try k3b right the only secure way to brun stuff whit it?10:11
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LjLSlackRat: probablt did.10:12
SlackRatsecure?10:12
SlackRati thought you just burned something?10:12
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SchuenemannI just installed edgy and I'm getting this alert box all the time: Sound server fatal error: cpu overloading, aborting10:12
Schuenemannwhat is that?10:13
SlackRatchange your sound server10:13
SlackRatits a kde bug usually10:13
Schuenemannhow?10:13
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SchuenemannI had dapper installed hours ago and it was fine10:13
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singinmatt13binks_: i did what you said, and you've officially screwed over my laptop10:13
singinmatt13so...i'm reinstalling10:13
SlackRattry alsaconf if its in kbuntu, and use alsa or open10:13
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SlackRatits set on default atm? the soundserver?10:14
eXistenZbinks_, what is your cpu temp?10:14
SchuenemannI don't know10:14
SchuenemannI just installed it10:14
Schuenemannhow do I check?10:14
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SlackRatgo to the control center under sound10:14
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SlackRatsound & mulitmedia10:15
SlackRatbrb getting coffee10:15
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Schuenemannis it sound system?10:15
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atidemhello10:17
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SchuenemannSlackRat, you there?10:18
SlackRatyea10:19
Schuenemannsystem config > sound system ?10:19
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SlackRatyes10:19
Schuenemannthen what?10:19
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SlackRatits on default under hardware?10:19
Schuenemannthe first combo? says autodetect10:20
SlackRatsorry thats what i meant, im not on kubuntu atm10:20
SlackRattry alsa10:20
SlackRatapply, try the test sound in the first panel then10:21
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Schuenemannvery slow :/10:21
slow-motionn810:22
SlackRatyeah, buntu is the slowest distro im running atm10:22
Schuenemannwhat is atm?10:22
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SlackRatkubuntu......its the slowest distro on my boxen10:22
jhutchinsSchuenemann: At The Moment10:23
Schuenemanntry suse, then :p10:23
SlackRatatm, heh10:23
Schuenemannahh...10:23
eXistenZCan anyone suggest me a neat minimalistic KDE theme?10:23
SlackRatbut suse is slower with less pkgs10:23
Schuenemannoh my god... I think it hanged10:23
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SlackRatdid you get the scroll bar progress10:25
SlackRatwhen starting alsa?   does buntu even come with alsa-utils, i forgot10:25
Schuenemannthe system config window hangs10:25
SlackRat*which* system config?10:26
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Schuenemannthe window10:27
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Schuenemannhanged then I clicked 'test'10:27
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SlackRatyou cant even reset or press a button like test?10:28
Schuenemannwhat do you mean?10:28
SlackRathangs.....it doesnt do anything, its frozen? im not psychic and i cant see your screen10:29
Schuenemannyeah, frozen... I killed it10:29
SlackRatso its gone?10:30
Schuenemannyes10:30
SlackRatgood10:30
SlackRatdid you have sound before it crashed on you with the cpu warning?10:30
Schuenemannno, it's a brand new installation10:31
soulrider!webcam10:31
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras10:31
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Schuenemannno I "always" had this error10:31
Schuenemannso*10:31
SlackRatdid it make the login sounds10:31
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SchuenemannI don't know, I wasn't using the headphones hehe10:31
SlackRathmn, go to a command line and sudo alsaconf10:32
SchuenemannI'm doing an adept update now, will that matteR?10:33
SlackRatit shouldnt10:33
Schuenemannalsaconf not found10:33
Schuenemanncommand*10:33
SlackRatok, now, what system did you install and what are you updating to?10:34
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SchuenemannI installed kubuntu 6.10 edgy and the update is just a normal update10:34
Schuenemannit is the first time I log10:35
Schuenemannlog in*10:35
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SlackRatok.....i d let it finish, since im not sure what all its installing and updating10:35
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innovatiso is there a way to go to a double-click desktop?  I can't STAND single click icons10:35
SlackRatthen, alsa is a pretty good sound utility for linux......when its done, use syanptic and install alsa packages.....10:35
Schuenemannopenoffice, xorg, libgtkdnsutils, etc10:35
soulriderdoes anyone here use a webcam? i connected mine and with camorama i can see it works, but the image is really weird, black and white with white blocks everywhere10:35
soulriderinnovati: yes, you can change to double click10:36
SlackRatkde control center peripherals mouse, and change to single click10:36
SlackRator double click10:36
Schuenemanninnovati, system config > mouse10:36
innovatiunder mouse! aha, it wasn't there on other distros10:36
SlackRatinstall alsa, alsa-utils....10:36
SchuenemannI selected alsa as you told me to10:36
SlackRatalsa driver......10:36
SlackRatwhen they install you should be able to run alsaconf and it will find and start up your sound card10:37
innovatiI must say, I'll bbiab but Kubuntu is the best distro I've ever installed so far!10:37
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Schuenemannok, I'll try10:37
Schuenemannthis is a long update... *sigh*10:37
SlackRatalso look at kmix and make sure your volumes are up high enough10:37
SlackRatbut the main problem is getting away from the sound driver that gives that nasty cpu abort error10:38
Schuenemannyes10:38
SlackRatso alsa, or my second is often OpenSound System10:38
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SlackRattrying alsaconf, and autodetect, if others give me that warning, which lets the system auto detect the right one......however that seems to be the problem atm10:39
SlackRattheres about four main alsa pkgs you can get from synaptic10:40
Schuenemanndapper auto detected10:40
Schuenemannit is strange edy didn't10:40
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SlackRatdont worry about all of them , some are for other sound drivers to work with alsa10:40
SlackRatedgy is called edgy for a reason , but it seems this is a common kde bug10:40
SlackRatwhich they hope to replace with 4.0 but getting rid of artswrapper and  arts....thank god10:41
SlackRatartsd, imo, sucks10:41
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Schuenemannstill 46%10:43
Schuenemannmy connection isn't fast10:43
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SlackRatkmix volumes are up and unmuted?10:44
Schuenemannyes10:44
SlackRatspeakers plugged in?10:44
SlackRatvolume up/10:44
Schuenemannyep10:44
drew3Hi Folks I'd like to start fresh with apt-get, But-->>Could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock10:44
Schuenemannthat too10:44
SlackRatis adept updating kde as well?10:44
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SchuenemannI don't think so10:45
SlackRatrootkits! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!10:45
SchuenemannI didn't check exacly what was the update, it was a lot of stuff10:45
tjzskreech u here?10:45
Schuenemannnormal for a new installation10:45
SlackRatyeah, i use drake and have to upgrade to drake 6.0.6.1 every time i wanna reinstall10:46
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SlackRatcause its a three desktop dvd10:46
SlackRattakes a while10:46
Schuenemann253 MB10:46
SlackRatyou could try the test sound , while waiting.......10:46
SlackRatsee if plays a logon them10:46
SlackRattheme10:46
SchuenemannI tried, it hanged10:46
SchuenemannI'll do it again10:46
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SlackRathmn, that shouldnt hang it, unless you changed another setting before it10:47
Schuenemannthe error message stopped popping, though10:47
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Schuenemannwhile I was installed it popped a lot10:47
Schuenemanninstalling*10:47
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SlackRator you could google the warning message edgy kde sound10:48
mlalkakahi everyone10:48
SlackRatsee if its commonly reported10:48
SchuenemannI'll let the update end10:48
SlackRatyeah, see whats on google in the meantime and the kubuntu or ubuntu forum pages10:49
mlalkakai'm trying to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu. i've installed the kubuntu-desktop package. how do i uninstall all the ubuntu-desktop stuff that i don't need now?10:49
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assasukassehi everyone10:49
assasukasseis there anyone who has tried both gnome and kde?10:49
SlackRatlet synaptic remove the pkg ubuntu-desktop10:49
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SlackRattho i t will take some pkgs with it no doubt10:50
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SlackRathi assaukasse...yes10:50
assasukasseSlackRat why u eventually choose kde10:50
mlalkakaassasukasse: i have10:50
assasukassemlalkaka same question :D10:50
assasukasseim an ubuntu gnome user, but i am not satisfied10:51
SlackRati alsways choose kde, imo its more efficient has more configuration options and is generally a bit faster on most of my machines10:51
Schuenemannkde is slower for me10:51
Schuenemannbut gnome is too ugly10:51
SlackRati tend to agree with torvalds, gnome likes to dumb things down and simplify and it takes your choices away10:51
assasukassei dunno why kde is slower for me...but i don't want to go to xfce10:52
mlalkakado any of you know a way to easily remove all the unnecessary ubuntu-desktop dependencies?10:52
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SlackRati depends on your box among other things......but you can tweak a bit for speed but not running unnecessary services10:52
assasukassealso, the problem is that i have a laptop centrino 1.4Ghz, with kde im always using more cpu, and more ram, so wasting more batteries10:53
SlackRati wouldnt remove too much outsideo of the -desktop, lots of apps you like may use the Gtk tools that gnome builds on10:53
jukaguys... which bandwidth limiter should I use? i need something like net-limiter to slow down Linux DC++10:53
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SlackRatlots of great apps from gnome development.....keep the libs and things they dont take much room10:53
assasukassejuka netlimiter doesn't work, they will kick u out10:53
jukawell... yeah, I figured, but is there anything similar to netlimter?10:54
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maehow stable is the latest prerelease10:54
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assasukassejuka they will easily find u are limiting the band and kick you out, they run bot, in 20 mins or less u will be banned...10:55
SlackRatstart with just removing the gnome-desktop, and see how many pkgs it takes with it before you apply the changes10:55
morpheus__shame10:55
jukahuh?10:55
jukai need to limit my download from 8PM till 1AM !!!10:55
jukaMY download10:55
assasukasseah10:55
jukawhat bot? which band?10:55
Lynoureassasukasse: Who are "they"?10:56
assasukasseLynoure most of the time ppl want to limit their upload band on dc++ so the owners of the channel runs bot to check it10:56
assasukasseif they catch you with a band limiter they kick u out10:56
SchuenemannSlackRat, what is your connection speed?10:56
assasukassebut in juka's case maybe no10:56
jukathis is an internal network10:57
assasukassejuka is no option for that in linux dc10:57
assasukasse?10:57
jukano, there is no that option10:57
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jukathere is one in StrongDC++ in windows...10:57
jukait works like a charm, but here :(10:57
jukauh i hate windows :)10:57
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assasukassejuka then i cant help i have no knowledge of any band limiter in linux10:58
assasukassejuka u could try to run strongdc in wine10:58
juka:/10:58
jukawine?10:58
assasukasseyea windows emulation10:58
jukawin-emulator hm?10:58
juka:)10:58
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Tm_TIt's not emulator ;)10:59
Tm_TOnly interface10:59
assasukasseyou are right10:59
jukauh-huh, and how do i use it?10:59
assasukassewine: Wine Is Not an Emulator10:59
Tm_TJust "wine firefox" for example.10:59
Schuenemannwhy would he wine firefox?11:00
assasukasseinstall the package and call the exe by putting wine in front of it11:00
Tm_TIt was example.11:00
jukai have the strong.exe installed on the windows partition11:00
jukawhat should i change it to?11:00
assasukassejuka i would do this11:00
assasukasseinstall wine package11:00
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assasukasseissue wineprefixcreate11:01
assasukassecopy the strong installer to your home dire11:01
assasukasseissue wine installer.exe from bash11:01
assasukassethen follow the info like u were on wine11:02
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assasukassewindows not wine :D11:02
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jukaum...11:02
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jukai don't get it 0:)11:02
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jukai just tried opening the strong.exe by clicking on it, amazing, it didn't work :-o11:03
assasukassejuka did u install wine package?11:03
Schuenemannit will be amazing if you find a program that works nice with wine11:03
assasukasseshareaza works fine11:03
jhutchinsI run quicken in wine all the time, have for years.11:04
assasukassemirc works perfectly, in fact i am using mirc under wine11:04
Schuenemannwell, you don't need shareaza11:04
jukai'm installing it now11:04
Schuenemannmirc perfectly? you're forcing11:04
jukaactually, downloading11:04
assasukasseSchuenemann tell me any G2 apps in linux11:04
jhutchinsIt's a split install, the exe and data are on the server, but it relies in some stuff it installed on my old w95 system, which I mount as wine's C:\.11:04
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juka43 megs11:05
jhutchinsOnly issue I have is it always opens on the current desktop instead of the one where I start it.11:05
assasukasseSchuenemann i am lucky then, the only problem is that it doesn't minimize to icon and that tab doesn't autocomplete nicknames..11:05
jukathat's about 20'11:05
soulriderheh, this is funny, my webcam works out of the box in linux, but in windoze its a b!tch to install11:05
assasukassejuka wine itself is around 10 meg11:05
jhutchinssoulrider: Welcome to the good side of computing!11:05
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soulriderlol11:06
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Antonio_Carlos_Moh tnx11:06
Antonio_Carlos_Mi did it11:06
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assasukassegoodnite all, time for me to sleep11:07
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LNX1hi !11:07
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LNX1Someone known how to resolv this: When I click on the desktop bar to start an application, this application start often twice11:08
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Schuenemannaren't you double clicking?11:08
LNX1like no11:08
LNX1no11:08
Dr_willisdesktop bar?11:08
Dr_willisthe panel you mean.?11:09
LNX1yes, the bottom bar11:09
LNX1ah ! yes11:09
LNX1;)11:09
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Dr_willisjust some times 2 start?11:09
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SlackRatover zealous  clicker sounds like11:09
LNX1yes, often but not each time11:09
SlackRat:p11:10
Dr_willistry a different mouse - would be my first test11:10
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SlackRatclick gently, its not windows, its more responsive, lol11:10
LNX1exemple: I click on Firefox, then 2 firefox start11:10
LNX1lol SlackRat ;)11:10
Dr_willisive seen some mice get worn where they do that.11:11
SlackRathmn, that too11:11
Dr_willisthere may be some 'double click' time out tweaks.. but ive never noticed or needed them11:11
LNX1I have seen something about that last week , but don't remember where11:11
LNX1It's a real bug11:11
Schuenemannon your own computer, maybe?11:11
Schuenemann:p11:11
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LNX1lol11:11
LNX1no, I have seen this on website, then it's my time to get this one11:12
LNX1;)11:12
maeis feisty stable?11:12
SchuenemannSlackRat, this damn update is still at 83%11:12
SlackRatrofl11:12
Schuenemannno, it will be in april11:12
LNX1I'm on feisty now mea.....lol11:12
Dr_willismae,   ive learned it dose NOT pay to be an 'early adopter' :)11:12
LNX1but in KDE, panel bar application start twice ;)11:13
SlackRatdepends on if you wanna test....11:13
SlackRator just get work done..... :-P11:13
maeDr_willis: lol11:13
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Schuenemannanyone using KDE 3.5.6?11:15
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xenoli got problem turning off pc from kmenu. i can shut down using konsole. i have ati card and got after defpots =vga=791. this  helped me last time but after reinstall it doesnt works more :( any ideas?11:18
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xenoli got problem turning off pc from kmenu. i can shut down using konsole. i have ati card and got after defpots =vga=791. this  helped me last time but after reinstall it doesnt works more :( any ideas?11:20
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Dr_willisdefpots?11:21
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xenolline 84 in /boot/grub/menu.lst11:21
xenoldefplotions or smth like that11:21
Dr_willisthe vga= options in the grub/framebuffer - shoudent have anything to do with the shutdown stuff11:21
xenolhmm helped me last time but now it doesnt :(11:22
Dr_williswhat about the KDM screen? can you shutdown from there.11:22
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xenolyes11:22
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xenolDr_willis: no i cant shutdown from kdm11:22
SlackRathave you enabled power management?11:22
Dr_williswhat happens if ypu try to shutdown?11:22
xenolwell if u mean k menu - log out - turn off11:23
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Dr_willisi mean the KDM login screen11:23
xenolDr_willis: screen goes black and nothing else11:23
knubbeis ther any special package needed to play dvd-movies? ive tried now with mplayer, gxine, vlc and kaffeine.11:23
SlackRatlibdvdcss11:23
SlackRatw32 codecs11:23
Dr_willisso the drives run for a bit.. X dies.. and the screen goes black/hangs? dosent power off.11:23
SlackRatlibdvdread11:23
xenol!libdvdcss211:23
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:23
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xenolyes doesnt power off11:24
Dr_williswhat does power it off then?11:24
SlackRattheres an unofficial package called easyubuntu that never gave me trouble11:24
SlackRatdownloads your codecs etc11:24
Dr_willisSlackRat,  you are one of the few then.. :)11:24
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SlackRatbut download ur own java.....11:24
xenolDr_willis: nothing screen is black and cooler is working11:24
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SlackRatDr_willis: what usually happpens when people use it?11:24
xenolhdd is turned off11:24
xenolas everything11:25
Dr_willisxenol,  you said earlier you could power 'off' when using the konsole11:25
knubbeSlackRat: hmm, ok11:25
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xenolDr_willis: sry yes but only from konsole using sudo poweroff/halt -h11:25
Dr_willisyou could edit the kdm program to use that as its power off command/halt command.11:25
Dr_willisbut id think thats what it is using now.11:26
xenolwhere can i see it?11:26
Dr_willisi though  the menus had some system/perferances/login manager icon.11:26
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Dr_willisthat let you set some things.. you need to enable the 'administrator mode' button. or go hardcore and edit the kdmrc file. (but thats overkill)11:27
xenoli am confused11:27
Dr_willisthe kdm tool may be an optional package11:27
Dr_willis!find kdm11:27
ubotuFound: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm11:27
SlackRatknubbe, check out the forums, google etc for enabling dvd playback, ubuntu doesnt provide illegal codecs.....or......if you like risk, try easy ubuntu, works for me, but its not supported and has caused some folks headaches11:27
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xenoli need to install kdm or what?11:27
Dr_willisthe KDM configuration tool.. may or may not be installed by default.11:28
Dr_willisI tend to install EVERYTHING... and then some11:28
xenolhmm so sudo apt-get install kdm?11:28
Dr_willistry 'kdmtheme'11:28
Dr_williskdm IS installed.11:28
xenol!kdmtheme11:28
ubotukdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB11:28
SlackRatits know as hoarding doc, i do the same thing11:28
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SlackRatlol11:29
Dr_willissystem admin --> Loginmanager and "kdm theme manager"11:29
Dr_willisare 2 tools i see.11:29
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knubbeSlackRat: ive installed easyubuntu now11:29
xenolDr_willis: u mean system settings?11:29
knubbeSlackRat: however, the window  starts loading and then it just "disappears". classic kubuntu problem.11:29
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Dr_willisI put that Wrench/panel app- on the panel that lets me get to my settings faster.. :) the 'new' layout is garbage. :) heh11:30
SlackRatit will take awhile , choose what you need for the moment.....i think it has a tendency, like syanptic to get the wrong java....blackhawk java or somesuch, better off getting java from the java people11:30
Dr_willislook for it... is all i can say. my system is so tweaked.11:30
xenolDr_willis: where can i find it?11:30
Dr_willisLook in your menus11:30
SlackRatbut get the codecs for dvd mpeg playback etc11:30
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Dr_willisI ALWAYS add the 'settings' panel applet to my panel..11:31
xenolDr_willis: got it too and got login manager11:31
Dr_willisits under System Admin --> Login Manager11:31
Dr_willisthe shutdown tab11:31
Dr_willisgives the commands it uses to do the different things.11:31
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xenolyea i see what do i need to do?11:32
SlackRatthen find the forum pages on dvd playback, do you have vlc installed?11:32
Dr_willislook explore... perhaps set it to use that command that works...11:32
Dr_willisit works for me.. so how do i know what you need. :)11:32
SlackRatit comes with alot of its own codecs included11:32
SlackRatand mplayer has an optional codec pack as well11:32
xenolDr_willis:  well if i want to use poweroff i need it with sudo11:32
Dr_willishalt command here = /sbin/halt11:32
knubbeSlackRat: ok, im installing all the codecs easyubuntu has to offer11:33
Dr_willisxenol,  these commands are what KDM runs.. you dont need to use 'sudo' with them.11:33
SlackRathalt shouldnt be restricted to root permission11:33
Dr_willisyou are tellking kdm what commands to use11:33
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xenoloh i will try then brb11:33
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Dr_williswhats odd - is that you got one command that works.. but the defaults are not working. I though  they were using the same command.11:33
SlackRatgod this room is so much better ...... i may never go into that gnomish room again....heh11:35
Dr_willisheh heh11:35
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SlackRatlol11:35
Ademananyone who uses ktorrent, in the queue manager the higher a torrent is the higher priority... right?11:36
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SlackRati used to consider all the deskops under ubuntu, but almost wiped it to install etch because of all the chatter and obnoxiousness in the U  channels and forums11:36
Dr_willisQue manager? wheres that at?11:36
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SlackRatanyone who's anyone uses K-ubuntu, lmao11:36
Dr_willisi got a 'downloads tab'11:36
SlackRatdownload this11:36
SlackRat:-P11:36
xenolDr_willis: same prob11:37
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SlackRati can see the spanish fork now...Quebunutu11:37
SchuenemannSlackRat, finally ended11:38
SlackRatthe update?11:38
Dr_willisxenol,  so 'halt' works when you 'sudo halt' and powers down.. but  the same command when ran by kdm dosent?11:38
SlackRatok, add those alsa packages11:38
xenolDr_willis: no11:38
Schuenemannhold on, it's installing now hehe11:39
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SlackRatand you might want to try getting the test sound first and changing your sound drivers in kde first to see if one 'just works'......make sure, if you want them to go to system notifications and check play all sounds, as well11:40
SlackRatbut if it doesnt work, run the alsaconf utility11:40
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Schuenemannok11:40
SlackRatcause something in your update may have already fixed it, but it usually doesnt hurt to have the alsa tools onboard11:41
xenolDr_willis: where should i look for help and will this fkn bug be repaired in feisty?11:41
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AdemanDr_willis: the gear thing with QM written on it (in red and green)11:41
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Dr_willisxenol,  no idea.. its not a bug for most people.. somthing seems real real real odd with your system however. what command do you use that actually powers off the box?11:42
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xenolDr_willis: i use sudo poweroff11:42
Dr_willisxenol,  tell kdm to use the poweroff command then?11:43
Dr_willispoweroff = halt -p  from what i just read..11:43
Dr_willisand halt -p is the default option for 'halt'11:43
xenolDr_willis: it is set by default11:43
Dr_willisyou could 'suid' the  poweroff command.. but thats getting dirty11:43
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Dr_willisthen ANYONE could power off the box with the poweroff command.11:44
xenolit is set11:44
xenolto everyone11:44
xenolonly remote is for root11:44
SlackRatwhich is kde default i thought....11:44
SchuenemannSlackRat, it always freezes when I click 'test'11:44
SlackRatthen dont click test anymore11:45
Schuenemannthis sucks11:45
SlackRatheh11:45
SlackRatkill it11:45
Dr_willisxenol,  i mean at a lower level.. you are right.. it SHOULD be able to do it.. so this is all weird.11:45
SchuenemannI did11:45
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SlackRatrun alsaconf11:45
versussalut tout le monde11:45
xenolDr_willis: in kde channel said it is  bug of ubuntu11:45
Dr_willisyou could try the command    " sudo chmod +s  $(which poweroff) "           BUT thgat11:45
Schuenemannsudo: alsaconf: command not found11:45
Dr_willisxenol,  its a bug that seems rather rare then.11:45
versuswhat's de chan of kubuntu french ?11:45
SlackRatdid you install alsa-utils etc11:45
SlackRat?11:46
Dr_willisxenol,  check the kubuntu wiki/forums - ive never seen anyone else with this issue.11:46
Schuenemannnope11:46
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Schuenemannutils and base?11:46
xenolxenol: weird is it works for me on dapper but not on edgy11:46
SlackRatits a bug in edgy maybe.....dapper works fine11:46
xenolDr_willis: have already tried not many ppl have same problem11:46
SchuenemannI already have the latest alsa-utils11:46
premier_hello.  I have a kde system and I want to experiment with gnome.  How can I install it without worrying about destroying my data?11:46
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Dr_willisinstall ubuntu-desktop premier_11:46
Dr_willisyou can pick what one to log into from the kdm screen11:47
SlackRathow many alsa pkgs did you install?11:47
xenoland i got advice to use vga=791 after deftplotions or whatever is that thing called and it helped11:47
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Schuenemannnone, I already had alsa-utils11:47
SlackRatinstall a few alsa packages11:47
xenolwell  Dr_willis does kernel settings have something to do with poweroff11:47
xenol?11:47
premier_Dr_willis, so no worries about data loss?11:47
SlackRatone of them has the alsaconf set up tool11:47
versusanyone can say me what's the french channel ?11:48
xenol!fr11:48
Schuenemann!fr11:48
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:48
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SlackRatalsa-drivers....etc11:48
versusmerci11:48
SlackRatand run it as sudo11:48
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versusthanks11:48
Dr_willisxenol,  theres a LOT of settings to do with it.. but  the command does work.. then it dosent for another user (kdm) that 'chmod +s' thing i gave earlier should fix it for all users.11:48
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Schuenemannhe begs for mercy11:48
Dr_willispremier_,  what data? the users /home is not affected.. you are just installing more packages11:48
SlackRatsometimes it takes a day or two to get sound right on a cranky system11:48
Dr_willispremier_,  you are making it too complex. :)11:48
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premier_okay, sorry.11:48
SlackRatisnt linux fun??11:49
Schuenemannnope11:49
Dr_willisIt pays to buy good hardware. :)11:49
xenol!paste11:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:49
Dr_willisMy Audigy 2zs works gr8 :)11:49
Schuenemannwell, even on this crappy hardware dapper worked fine11:49
premier_My computer hasnt been booting down properly.  When it logs out of my username, it stalls on a black screen for a long time; sometimes it wont stop and I have to crash it11:49
Schuenemannso it's not my hardwakre11:49
Schuenemannware*11:49
premier_alt-ctrl-backspace doesnt work11:50
xenoli dont believe that if my HW was working great on dapper wont work great on edgy11:50
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SlackRatwhich is why, where ubuntu is concerned, i dont upgrade so easily11:50
SlackRatbugs take months to work out, then , hey, new release11:50
xenolafaik what differs edgy from dapper is software updates11:50
Dr_willisxenol,  did you 'upgrade' or do a clean reinstall?11:50
xenolclean reinstall11:50
SchuenemannSlackRat, it was released in october!11:50
SlackRatalso dapper was meant to be more stable and longer supported11:50
SlackRatits still based on debian unstable snapshots11:51
SlackRati may try feisty in march11:51
SchuenemannI just got the stupid error message again11:51
SlackRatlate march11:51
latoday is new year11:51
xenolDr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6479/11:51
SlackRatcan you change to OpenSoundSystem instead of the autodetect??11:51
xenolDr_willis: see line 84-9011:51
SlackRatyes la, year of the pig11:51
SchuenemannI changed to alsa11:51
laand what was last year ?11:52
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SlackRatnow go to sound notificiations and click on play ALL sounds11:52
xenolDr_willis: wat should i try cause i getting really upset for this11:52
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Dr_willisxenol,  the vga options do not have any affect on the powering down.. you COULD use the   optins to disable framebuffer and perhaps see some error log messages11:52
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lait's good year11:52
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xenolDr_willis: do u want to see my logs?11:52
SlackRatapply to all apps, trun on all11:52
Dr_willisxenol,  you are talkign to some one who has linux box's with 4+ month of uptimes - i dont really worry about having to hit the power button to power one down.11:53
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SlackRattry and play one of the sounds right below it11:53
SlackRatactions/playa sound11:53
xenolDr_willis: well i cannot sleep when my PC is making noise although it  has only 30 DB11:53
Dr_willisxenol,  could try changing the line   # defoptions=vga=791 quiet splash           to  # defoptions= nofb onquiet nosplash11:53
lawhy it's so difficult to instal anything ?11:54
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Dr_willisand rerun the grub-install and see if you can get some error messages11:54
Dr_williswhen you boot/shutdown11:54
robi_i like kubuntu11:54
xenolDr_willis: i love u11:54
xenolDr_willis: rly love u11:54
Dr_willisoops 'noquiet' not onquiet11:54
xenolDr_willis: the prob is11:54
SchuenemannSlackRat, no sound11:54
xenoli didnt do grub-update11:54
Dr_willisnofb disables the framebuffer.. that way you should see some more info11:54
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SlackRatlogout, then log back into kde11:54
xenoland need to shutdown/reboot pc11:54
Schuenemannok11:54
SlackRator reboot11:54
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xenolDr_willis: how can i update grub plx?11:55
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Dr_willis  # defoptions= nofb noquiet nosplash   - and rerun updategrub11:56
xenolDr_willis: sudo apt-get update grub ?11:56
Dr_willisor edit the  other lines and change those options11:56
xenolDr_willis: i know w here is prob now11:56
Dr_willisyou HAVE grub installed..11:56
xenolforgot to do grub update after changins settings :(11:56
Dr_willisif that vga=thing IS the fix/problem - thats realy realy really weird...11:56
SlackRatyou dont update grub, you update lilo11:56
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Dr_willisyou got your menu.lst very configured it seems11:56
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Dr_willisdepending on how you do 'things' to it - you may or may not need to run update-grub11:57
xenolDr_willis: hmm wat u mean? it is good or bad?11:57
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Dr_willisxenol,  someone commented out most of the entrys... was that you?11:57
florent_bonjour11:57
xenolDr_willis: yes11:57
SlackRatyou mean touching grub in its bathing suit areas?11:57
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reldruhhello. I'm about to try building kde on my own for the first time using the Konstruct script and was wondering if it fetches all the dependencies it needs or if that has be done manually prior to running it.11:58
SlackRatdunno reldruh, never used the Konstruct......11:58
Dr_williscould change your one entry to read     /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hdb3 ro quiet splash vga=79111:58
Dr_willisand see if that works..11:58
Dr_willisor perhaps... better11:58
SlackRathave more trust in apt11:58
Dr_williscould change your one entry to read     /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hdb3 ro quiet nofb nosplash vga=79111:58
reldruhSlackRat: me neither, and all I find on the devnew page about it is: Some basic libraries and some other libraries enabling additional functionality are not included in "Konstruct", http://www.kde.org/info/requirements/3.5.php lists them.11:59
reldruhbut there's a good 50 packages listed there11:59
jarnWhere are the KDM themes?11:59
SlackRati prefer not to build Open Office or KDE if i can help it11:59
Dr_willisjarn,  theres a few in the repos not installed by default.. or go to kde-look.org and get some12:00
Dr_willis!kdmtheme12:00
SlackRatthough i suppose i might try dpkg -i kde-*12:00
ubotukdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB12:00
Dr_willisbe sure to install the kdmtheme tool also.12:00
jarnDr_willis: No, where are they stored on the hard drive.12:00
jarnDr_willis: The ones that come with it.12:00
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reldruhSlackRat: I've always been curious what it's like from scratch. I've tried gentoo a few times and it was just a little bit too complicated. I'm going to do a fresh install for feisty, so now's the time to try it12:00
Dr_willisjarn,  ohh. NOW you clarify :)12:00
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Dr_willisjarn,  try 'locate NameOfATheme' ?12:01
SlackRatgo for it, its not as bad as gentoo cause its not gonna compile everything12:01
SlackRatthat could take days12:01
SlackRatit just has to install all the core bits in the right order12:01
Dr_willisim not sure where they get installed to.. fire up the package manager and see where the files  are at in the package.12:01
reldruhSlackRat: I'm aware :-) I got close enough with gentoo to realize what a mistake that was. I'd like to use this script, but I odn't know if I have to install all these dependencies first12:01
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SlackRatkinda curius to see how the script works myself, for future reference12:02
SlackRatit should all be in the kde pkg, what you need12:02
reldruhwell if it works well enough to get me back here I'll let you know :-)12:02
SlackRatcool, heh12:02
xenolDr_willis: plz can u gimme  a link i pasted u ? my menu.lst was changed after update-grub12:02
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xenoland it now works12:02
SlackRatread the docs before hand tho12:02
reldruhSlackRat: thts' what I'm doing now, but I still have some questions I'm trying to get answered12:03
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xenolSlackRat:  u need somewhere up the link i pasted to dr_willis plz? can u paste it again to me s ince i rebooted and i dont see it *lazy to write menu.lst again* :X thx12:04
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SlackRathow far up?12:05
xenolhmm just scroll up mayb 50-60 lines12:05
xenolplz12:05
xenolSlackRat:  hmm?12:07
SlackRatk. now what am i doing with it?12:07
xenoljust paste a link12:07
xenolplz12:07
SlackRathttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6479/12:07
xenolthx12:07
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joseHOLA12:08
SlackRatfirst time i saw the Konstruct pkg install was in Suse, so it shouldnt cause too many problems12:09
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SlackRatand you can always try a dpkg -i install with a wildcard12:10
SlackRatitll install the whole folder12:10
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