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| bluefoxicy | ah that's much faster now that I've removed evms, mdadm, and lvm2 | 02:36 |
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| bluefoxicy | (dm-linear was looping and eating 80% CPU in feisty) | 02:37 |
| jdong | bluefoxicy: ouch! | 02:37 |
| bluefoxicy | fuck. | 02:39 |
| bluefoxicy | I got xenman working, upgraded to feisty, and same problem. | 02:39 |
| bluefoxicy | XenMan can't find any local host. | 02:39 |
| bluefoxicy | it doesn't know about local virtual machines | 02:40 |
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| bluefoxicy | jdong: fix XenMan :( | 02:41 |
| jdong | bluefoxicy: you vastly overestimate my skills :D | 02:41 |
| jdong | bluefoxicy: fix my calc homework | 02:41 |
| bluefoxicy | jdong: also yes ouch, I upgraded to Feisty TWICE on my laptop and it did exactly that. | 02:41 |
| bluefoxicy | jdong: I am currently failing calc2 | 02:42 |
| jdong | it's somehow not done. | 02:42 |
| kylem | heh. calculus. | 02:42 |
| jdong | I went to sleep for 10 hours last night | 02:42 |
| jdong | and it's still not done. | 02:42 |
| jdong | I don't know what I'm doing wrong | 02:42 |
| kylem | jdong, woss the problem? | 02:42 |
| jdong | should I file a maxima bug that it isn't finishing my homework? | 02:42 |
| jdong | kylem: ideas for using vectors to prove law of sines? | 02:42 |
| zul | bluefoxicy: you have to enable unix-port in the xen config to get XenMan to work | 02:42 |
| jdong | I'm guessing I should use a crossproduct of two legs to find a perpendicular vector | 02:43 |
| jdong | and then proceed that way | 02:43 |
| bluefoxicy | zul: can you give me an exact line | 02:44 |
| kylem | jdong, it's been a long time, it probably involves summing or subtracting a pair of cross products | 02:44 |
| bluefoxicy | zul: this worked before upgrading and I didn't change the config file | 02:44 |
| zul | not off the top of my head | 02:44 |
| bluefoxicy | in fact I told dpkg NOT to touch it. | 02:44 |
| jdong | kylem: yeah looks that way.... i.e. a lot of work :D | 02:44 |
| bluefoxicy | I have xend-unix-server yes | 02:44 |
| kylem | jdong, i don't even remember what the sine law is though, *ducks* | 02:44 |
| bluefoxicy | and that's it | 02:44 |
| jdong | kylem: 5 problem psets per week... sounded so ridiculously short | 02:44 |
| bluefoxicy | zul: I think XenMan is just busted. | 02:45 |
| jdong | but nope, this ain't the place for easy homework | 02:45 |
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| balarka | hi | 08:52 |
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| _dam | can i ask something? | 11:57 |
| geser | !ask | 11:58 |
| _dam | what happened today with the alternate(daily) versions at cdimage.ubuntu.com? | 11:59 |
| _dam | for example, this folder is empty: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20070218/ | 12:00 |
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| blizz | hi | 12:01 |
| blizz | is something going to change about the bcm43xx drivers soon? | 12:01 |
| blizz | currently the new drivers only accept 4.x firmware, which doesnt work with most broadcom based cards (all apple laptops, lots of nics) | 12:02 |
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| _dam | ? | 12:05 |
| blizz | am i supposed to ask questions about the development in post 2.6.20-8 kernels here? | 12:10 |
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| mdke | blizz: it's not obligatory | 12:11 |
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| mdke | blizz: if you wish to do so, you can; or in #ubuntu-kernel | 12:11 |
| blizz | ahh, thats better i think | 12:11 |
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| blizz | thanks, ill ask there :) | 12:12 |
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| Treenaks | Hobbsee: test message received :) | 01:22 |
| Hobbsee | Treenaks: :P | 01:23 |
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| adam0509 | hi, is there any plans to get a soft painting program in ubuntu ? | 02:28 |
| adam0509 | gimp is too hard for beginners, even for me... | 02:29 |
| adam0509 | under Winsucks I use "PhotoFiltre" but's not free | 02:29 |
| bhale | adam0509: what exactly do you want to do? | 02:31 |
| bhale | adam0509: f-spot is a photo manager included in ubuntu-desktop that lets you do (non-destructive) basic photo editing, color adjustment, red eye removal, crop | 02:31 |
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| adam0509 | I'm not talking about photo-editors, but photo-creator | 02:32 |
| adam0509 | If you wanna crop a file, add some text, resize picture, you can't do it with f-spot | 02:32 |
| adam0509 | bhale, | 02:33 |
| bhale | you absolutely can crop a file | 02:33 |
| bhale | but yes, it doesnt do anything outside the scope of "touching up" | 02:33 |
| adam0509 | yes but you can't create a new file from nothing... | 02:33 |
| bhale | ok didnt mean to offend, you mentioned something called photofiltre | 02:34 |
| adam0509 | I just love PhotoFiltre, it's the best, but it only works with wine... | 02:34 |
| adam0509 | The Author would like help to do a Linux version but don't want the sources to be released | 02:35 |
| adam0509 | or maybe a complete work could be done on "gpaint" | 02:36 |
| adam0509 | bhale, | 02:37 |
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| angasule | I'm using Edgy and I got OpenAL to work with surround sound, it's a simple thing but I believe there is no program to do it in *buntu and no article in the wiki | 04:00 |
| angasule | OpenAL = 3D positional sound, btw, used in games (and probably some apps) | 04:00 |
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| angasule | http://pastebin.com/883654 <-- this is what fixed OpenAL output for surround sound for me (of course, alsa must see all the speakers first) | 04:08 |
| tsmithe | angasule, create an article in the wiki? | 04:10 |
| Treenaks | tsmithe: no, file a bug on openal -- it should figure it out by itself :) | 04:10 |
| Treenaks | or some gui somewhere | 04:10 |
| Treenaks | (if the user says they have 5.1 speakers, USE THEM ;)) | 04:10 |
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| angasule | Treenaks: from what I've seen about OpenAL, it's somewhat of a zombie | 04:10 |
| angasule | Treenaks: I believe currently, the user has to configure surround in every single app | 04:11 |
| Treenaks | angasule: still. we have a bit of GUI that configures which alsa card is primary | 04:11 |
| angasule | Treenaks: even alsa doesn't quite work (volumes are set up wrong) | 04:11 |
| _ion | Cool, Google knows bzr is an abbreviation of bazaar-ng. | 04:11 |
| Treenaks | angasule: it might be nice to have it do things like this as well | 04:11 |
| === Treenaks wants to know when the next dev meeting is.. this sounsd like perfect spec material ;) | ||
| angasule | Treenaks: you mean a settings that sets up 5.1 everywhere? that'd be nice | 04:12 |
| angasule | btw, there are many surround settings | 04:12 |
| angasule | OpenAL only seems to work with 4 speakers (it's extremely neglected on linux) | 04:13 |
| Treenaks | angasule: you select 'I have 5.1 speakers' and it writes an openal config, sets the proper alsa mixer channels to sane volume levels, etc. | 04:13 |
| angasule | 4.0, 5.1, 7.1, whatever | 04:13 |
| angasule | Treenaks: that sounds great :) | 04:13 |
| Treenaks | I think it's even possible to detect which options are supported by your sound card... | 04:13 |
| angasule | Treenaks: I don't think it can be *automatically* done, though | 04:14 |
| angasule | the problem is, one may have a 5.1 capable card, but only use headphones (2 speakers), or 4 speakers | 04:14 |
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| angasule | and I don't know if the card tells the computer which plugs are in use | 04:15 |
| Treenaks | angasule: sure.. but if your soundcard supports 5.1 but not 7.1, it should show an option for 5.1, and not 7.1 | 04:15 |
| angasule | yeap, of course | 04:15 |
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| angasule | Treenaks: I think that can be done by asking alsa how many channels are available? | 04:16 |
| Treenaks | angasule: something like that | 04:16 |
| Treenaks | sabdfl: Do you have any idea when/where the next dev conference will be? (or when it'll be announced :) | 04:17 |
| angasule | so, need help with this little thing? sounds like a small project I could help with :D | 04:17 |
| Treenaks | angasule: let's wiki up a spec ;) | 04:17 |
| Treenaks | or launchpad.. | 04:17 |
| shawarma | Treenaks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Sevilla | 04:18 |
| angasule | any chance you'll be going to debconf? | 04:19 |
| angasule | I'm definitely going to debconf for one simple reason: it's about 500km from me :) | 04:19 |
| Treenaks | shawarma: ooh! Sevilla | 04:19 |
| angasule | el que se fue de Sevilla perdio su silla jej | 04:20 |
| shawarma | I hope he found it again. | 04:21 |
| shawarma | :-/ | 04:21 |
| sabdfl | seville, andalucia (spain), early may | 04:22 |
| sabdfl | then boston, USA, in november | 04:22 |
| sabdfl | i think there was a mail to u-announce recently with details | 04:22 |
| sabdfl | Treenaks: | 04:22 |
| sabdfl | ^^^ | 04:22 |
| angasule | hahaha shawarma, that's a phrase one says when one sits in someone else's chair | 04:23 |
| angasule | it usually ends in a fist fight | 04:24 |
| Treenaks | sabdfl: thanks :) | 04:24 |
| shawarma | angasule: Oh, that makes a bit more sense. :-) | 04:25 |
| zul__ | why not montreal again? ;) | 04:30 |
| Treenaks | zul__: montreal rocked :) | 04:31 |
| shawarma | I think it's good to have every other conference on this side of the big pond. | 04:31 |
| Treenaks | zul__: but so did Barcelona :) | 04:31 |
| zul__ | Treenaks: and its a 2 hour drive from me | 04:31 |
| Seveas | sabdfl, does 23:00 UTC on nov. 26 suit your schedule for a CC meeting? | 04:32 |
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| shawarma | sabdfl: I can't help but notice that there's no sponsorship subpage on the UDS-Sevilla page on the Wiki. Will there not be any sponsoring this time or has the page just not been created yet? | 04:41 |
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| robertj_ | will gtk input methods ultimately be succeeded by uim? | 06:20 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: the underlying bit of the partman interface flow is literally a toggle switch - you select that option in the choose_partition select question, and it toggles the value of format | 06:23 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: so you need to invoke edit_partition(format=whatever) strictly when the value is toggled | 06:23 |
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| jharr | where do I report apic problems? | 07:05 |
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| zul | jharr: launchpad.net | 07:09 |
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| sabdfl | Seveas: seriously, november? | 08:11 |
| sabdfl | shawarma: there will be sponsorships, but we're nominating internally rather than inviting applications | 08:11 |
| Seveas | sabdfl, I meant february of course, don't know what I was thinking there | 08:12 |
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| sabdfl | Seveas: can do | 08:23 |
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| Seveas | sabdfl, ok, then I'll announce the meeting | 08:29 |
| ajmitch | morning | 08:37 |
| _ion | Evening. | 08:38 |
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| sladen | angasule: could you write up your experiences with OpenAL on a wiki-page if it's not something that works out of the box | 09:03 |
| sladen | sometimes it's possible to get "jack sense" from the card when something is inserted, but not always | 09:04 |
| angasule | I'll add it to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound | 09:04 |
| angasule | and with Treenaks we're working on this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SurroundSupportSpec | 09:05 |
| angasule | OpenAL on linux is nearly dead, btw | 09:05 |
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| hardaway | any idea when Xorg 7.2 will be in repos | 09:06 |
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| geser | hardaway: afaik it's on the way, the first packages are already there. I'd expect the remaining packages to follow soon | 09:11 |
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| hardaway | thank you | 09:20 |
| angasule | sladen: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound <-- I added some tips, not much, but at least it worked for me... | 09:29 |
| Treenaks | sladen: ubucon? | 09:34 |
| Treenaks | sladen: (re: wiki edit :) | 09:34 |
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| sladen | Treenaks: there's several contigious events | 11:06 |
| Treenaks | sladen: ah | 11:08 |
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| crimsun | angasule: thanks for the entries. Note however that many codecs require custom routing (ttables); you may wish to add a note about directing users to #alsa, where a few of us get those sorted out. | 11:22 |
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| angasule | crimsun: done :) | 11:33 |
| angasule | autoreconf is old/deprecated? | 11:34 |
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