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nixternaljjesse: just watchin' some TV. now I think I am going to work on some docs seeing as we only have 19 days left until freeze12:58
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: holler at your boy if you need help12:59
=== nixternal hollers
Admiral_Chicagoshow me the way..I've never done doc work but I'm down for whatever01:00
nixternalI will take plane text right about now, as with 19 days to go, it would be difficult to learn all the way in which we do and don't do things with DocBook XML01:01
nixternalman, I picked the wrong time to update the KDE repos01:01
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: so where can I get started?01:04
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nixternalone sec01:10
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: have you been using the new Adept lately?01:11
nixternalhow familiar are you with the new codecs stuff?01:11
nixternalmy lord there is still a ton it feels like01:11
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: hold on a sec, let my eyes read this01:14
nixternalhehe01:15
Admiral_Chicagono I install via terminal but I can explore it01:15
Admiral_Chicagoagain, i installed my codecs from the command line01:15
nixternalwhat about printing?01:15
nixternalprogramming?01:15
nixternalgrr, brb01:16
Admiral_Chicagoprogramming..what do you have for me01:17
nixternalI have no idea, I need to look at it01:22
nixternalahh nevermind the programming, I will steal it from the Ubuntu side01:22
nixternaljjesse: are you still working on the office docs?01:23
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/printing/C/index.html01:24
Admiral_Chicagookay01:24
nixternalwhat can you do with that?01:24
Admiral_Chicagolooking now01:24
nixternalthat needs content big time01:24
nixternalyou can use info from the wiki for printers and work something up01:25
Admiral_Chicagooh wow, hmm I can start writing *something*01:25
Admiral_Chicagoi don't even use a printer so I'll look around for information01:25
nixternalrock on!01:25
nixternalthe wiki should have some decent info01:25
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: i don't even have Printers section in System Settings01:26
nixternalalright, I am going to be at the keyboard but not paying attention to IRC, so if it is a few minutes until I answer don't worry, I will be here01:26
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: Feisty?01:26
nixternalunder computer administration01:26
Admiral_Chicagohold on a sec. of course Feisty01:26
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: nope01:27
nixternalumm, something is messed up then01:27
Admiral_Chicagomaybe, i'll check the status on cups01:27
Admiral_Chicagoone more thing, how do I *edit* this page01:28
nixternalyou can either download the .xml file, or just do something up in oo.o if you want to01:28
nixternalhttps://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/kubuntu/printing/C/printing.xml01:29
Admiral_Chicagoi'll mail you the .odt01:29
nixternalthere is the xml file01:29
nixternal.odt is good01:29
Admiral_Chicagoeww, SVN.01:29
nixternaleww?01:29
Admiral_Chicagoi like bazaar more. :)01:29
nixternalSubversion > Bazaar any day of the week, until Bazaar gets faster01:29
Admiral_Chicagothere is a lot of work being done on bazaar for that01:30
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: they have been working on it for a year now, until then Subversion is the puppy of choice01:30
LaserJockbzr 0.14 is tons faster01:31
LaserJockbut svn is still very nice for a centralized repo01:31
nixternalyup01:31
Admiral_Chicagoplus, I like the idea of decentralized systems.01:31
nixternal0.14 still takes a solid hour for the docs01:31
LaserJockAdmiral_Chicago: I don't ;-)01:32
nixternalya, centralized all the way01:32
Admiral_Chicagoit seems a bit exclusive to me01:32
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: and what do you do when you looks your log in :)01:32
LaserJockseems a bit more sane to me01:32
nixternalbut then again, I was the same way with CVS years back :)01:32
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: say that again, this time in English :)01:32
LaserJockyeah, the upstream project I work on is all CVS01:32
LaserJockI went from bzr -> SVN -> CVS01:32
Admiral_Chicagolose* quiet.01:33
nixternalI was heartbroken with the KDE repos went from CVS to SVN01:33
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: svn+ssh, if you loose your login, you lost your ssh rsa_id01:33
Admiral_Chicagoso just write anything about printing01:33
nixternalplus, with regular http svn you login once and that's it, you take that key and save it to usb01:33
nixternalyou are good to go01:34
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: yes01:34
Admiral_Chicagookay01:34
nixternalsome, anything. Take a look at the Ubuntu docs for guidance maybe01:34
LaserJocklol, I so wish savannah would move to SVN01:34
nixternalhttp://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/printing/C/index.html01:34
nixternalhrmm01:34
Admiral_Chicagoty01:34
LaserJocknixternal: gnome finally went to SVN01:34
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: kde'ize that01:35
Admiral_Chicagoi will01:35
nixternalLaserJock: ya, thats where I stole my planetplanet layout for chi01:35
LaserJocknixternal: is Riddell up?01:35
nixternalman, GNOME would be the shizzy with a Konqueror like package01:35
nixternalLaserJock: there is no telling01:36
Admiral_Chicagosays GNOME cups manager handles cups in GNOME, is there anything for KDE, i did an apt-cache search but nothing01:39
Admiral_Chicagoohh kdeprint. i'm blind01:39
nixternalhaha01:39
Admiral_Chicagohmm, i didn't have that installed, that might make a difference01:40
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: i'm going to look at this tomorrow, can't focus right now01:54
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nixternalanybody an NFS or ZeroConf guru?02:17
nixternalthat is the last 2 sections I have for networking02:17
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3811 kubuntu/network/C/network.xml: more network content - NFS and ZeroConf needs content02:21
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CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3812 kubuntu/ (libs/kde-menus-C.ent programming/C/programming.xml): Kubuntu Programming section 99% complete - added new menuchoices for some apps03:27
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3813 kubuntu/ (releasenotes/ unused/releasenotes/): release notes moving to kubuntu.org03:32
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3814 kubuntu/ (misc/ unused/misc/): old desktop guide03:32
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3815 kubuntu/ (5 files in 5 dirs): moving, removing, unusing03:35
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CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3816 kubuntu/add-applications/C/add-applications.xml: add-applications 95% complete - needs aptitude procedure and info05:25
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3817 kubuntu/getting-help/C/getting-help.xml: getting-help about ready05:27
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3818 kubuntu/newtokubuntu/C/newtokubuntu.xml: newtokubuntu section rewritten - need Windows and Mac switching links05:44
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3819 kubuntu/unused/ (desktopguide/ misc/ quickguide/ quicktour/ releasenotes/): removing, renaming, cleaning up05:46
nixternalooh, sorry for the flooding05:47
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LaserJocknixternal: lol05:48
nixternalheh, I have 18 days to get Kubuntu docs finished05:52
=== nixternal kicks jjesse -> office.xml has your name written all over it :)
nixternaljjesse: I cheated, the programming.xml I stole/borrowed from Ubuntu, moved all the GTK junk towards the bottom and added all the C++ and Qt stuff at the top :)05:53
nixternaltomorrow I have massive LUG event, yay05:53
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3820 generic/serverguide/C/ (file-server.xml mail.xml web-servers.xml wikis.xml): (log message trimmed)06:09
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: Add material for ruby-on-rails and ejabberd instant messaging server. In06:09
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: addtion, it includes some brush-up fixes.06:09
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: * generic/serverguide/C/mail.xml06:09
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation:  Fix the URL.06:09
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation:  Add material for ejabberd server. The configuration section is06:09
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation:  incomplete.06:09
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CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3821 kubuntu/ (4 files in 3 dirs): copied over keeping-safe from ubuntu and edited accordingly06:47
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3822 kubuntu/index.xml: fixed the temp index for doc.ubuntu.com06:50
CIA-4Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3823 kubuntu/Makefile: added new docs and cleaned up Kubuntu Makefile06:54
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UbugtuNew bug: #86058 in xubuntu-docs (main) "Minor spelling correction - "Add Applications -> Synaptic"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8605805:25
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GatoLokohi07:08
jjessehello GatoLoko07:10
GatoLokois there any convention about naming wiki pages or about translated pages?07:10
jjesseGatoLoko:  umm i'm probabllyu not the best person to answer your question07:12
nixternalhiya jjesse07:17
GatoLokoi've read something about not trying to translate the wiki because it's huge and changes fast, but someone asked for a translation of one page and I don't know if I must do it in the wiki or put the translation in another site and give him a link07:19
jjessehiya nixternal07:19
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Admiral_Chicagoits really hard to try this printing thing when I don't have it on my computer08:23
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: ^^08:23
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: don't worry about it, I will work on it tonight08:37
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: i'll translate the packages, and make sure there is content08:37
Admiral_Chicagoi'll do my best, maybe I can virtualize my Edgy Cd08:38
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UbugtuNew bug: #86124 in xubuntu-docs (main) "Instructions on how to add/chge repositories needs updating" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8612409:55
UbugtuNew bug: #86126 in ubuntu-doc "Packaging Guide -- unclear instructions on page "Packaging from Scratch"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8612610:00
UbugtuNew bug: #86127 in xubuntu-docs (main) "Calendar listed as "Calendar" in Xfce menu, not "Orage"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8612710:05
UbugtuNew bug: #86128 in xubuntu-docs (main) "Docs reference Xfmedia, but Xubuntu now uses gxine by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8612810:10
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