[12:58] <nixternal> jjesse: just watchin' some TV. now I think I am going to work on some docs seeing as we only have 19 days left until freeze
[12:59] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: holler at your boy if you need help
[01:00] <Admiral_Chicago> show me the way..I've never done doc work but I'm down for whatever
[01:01] <nixternal> I will take plane text right about now, as with 19 days to go, it would be difficult to learn all the way in which we do and don't do things with DocBook XML
[01:01] <nixternal> man, I picked the wrong time to update the KDE repos
[01:04] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: so where can I get started?
[01:10] <nixternal> one sec
[01:11] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: have you been using the new Adept lately?
[01:11] <nixternal> how familiar are you with the new codecs stuff?
[01:11] <nixternal> my lord there is still a ton it feels like
[01:14] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: hold on a sec, let my eyes read this
[01:15] <nixternal> hehe
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> no I install via terminal but I can explore it
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> again, i installed my codecs from the command line
[01:15] <nixternal> what about printing?
[01:15] <nixternal> programming?
[01:16] <nixternal> grr, brb
[01:17] <Admiral_Chicago> programming..what do you have for me
[01:22] <nixternal> I have no idea, I need to look at it
[01:22] <nixternal> ahh nevermind the programming, I will steal it from the Ubuntu side
[01:23] <nixternal> jjesse: are you still working on the office docs?
[01:24] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/printing/C/index.html
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[01:24] <nixternal> what can you do with that?
[01:24] <Admiral_Chicago> looking now
[01:24] <nixternal> that needs content big time
[01:25] <nixternal> you can use info from the wiki for printers and work something up
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> oh wow, hmm I can start writing *something*
[01:25] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't even use a printer so I'll look around for information
[01:25] <nixternal> rock on!
[01:25] <nixternal> the wiki should have some decent info
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: i don't even have Printers section in System Settings
[01:26] <nixternal> alright, I am going to be at the keyboard but not paying attention to IRC, so if it is a few minutes until I answer don't worry, I will be here
[01:26] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: Feisty?
[01:26] <nixternal> under computer administration
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on a sec. of course Feisty
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: nope
[01:27] <nixternal> umm, something is messed up then
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe, i'll check the status on cups
[01:28] <Admiral_Chicago> one more thing, how do I *edit* this page
[01:28] <nixternal> you can either download the .xml file, or just do something up in oo.o if you want to
[01:29] <nixternal> https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/kubuntu/printing/C/printing.xml
[01:29] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll mail you the .odt
[01:29] <nixternal> there is the xml file
[01:29] <nixternal> .odt is good
[01:29] <Admiral_Chicago> eww, SVN.
[01:29] <nixternal> eww?
[01:29] <Admiral_Chicago> i like bazaar more. :)
[01:29] <nixternal> Subversion > Bazaar any day of the week, until Bazaar gets faster
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a lot of work being done on bazaar for that
[01:30] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: they have been working on it for a year now, until then Subversion is the puppy of choice
[01:31] <LaserJock> bzr 0.14 is tons faster
[01:31] <LaserJock> but svn is still very nice for a centralized repo
[01:31] <nixternal> yup
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> plus, I like the idea of decentralized systems.
[01:31] <nixternal> 0.14 still takes a solid hour for the docs
[01:32] <LaserJock> Admiral_Chicago: I don't ;-)
[01:32] <nixternal> ya, centralized all the way
[01:32] <Admiral_Chicago> it seems a bit exclusive to me
[01:32] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: and what do you do when you looks your log in :)
[01:32] <LaserJock> seems a bit more sane to me
[01:32] <nixternal> but then again, I was the same way with CVS years back :)
[01:32] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: say that again, this time in English :)
[01:32] <LaserJock> yeah, the upstream project I work on is all CVS
[01:32] <LaserJock> I went from bzr -> SVN -> CVS
[01:33] <Admiral_Chicago> lose* quiet.
[01:33] <nixternal> I was heartbroken with the KDE repos went from CVS to SVN
[01:33] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: svn+ssh, if you loose your login, you lost your ssh rsa_id
[01:33] <Admiral_Chicago> so just write anything about printing
[01:33] <nixternal> plus, with regular http svn you login once and that's it, you take that key and save it to usb
[01:34] <nixternal> you are good to go
[01:34] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: yes
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[01:34] <nixternal> some, anything. Take a look at the Ubuntu docs for guidance maybe
[01:34] <LaserJock> lol, I so wish savannah would move to SVN
[01:34] <nixternal> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/printing/C/index.html
[01:34] <nixternal> hrmm
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> ty
[01:34] <LaserJock> nixternal: gnome finally went to SVN
[01:35] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: kde'ize that
[01:35] <Admiral_Chicago> i will
[01:35] <nixternal> LaserJock: ya, thats where I stole my planetplanet layout for chi
[01:35] <LaserJock> nixternal: is Riddell up?
[01:35] <nixternal> man, GNOME would be the shizzy with a Konqueror like package
[01:36] <nixternal> LaserJock: there is no telling
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> says GNOME cups manager handles cups in GNOME, is there anything for KDE, i did an apt-cache search but nothing
[01:39] <Admiral_Chicago> ohh kdeprint. i'm blind
[01:39] <nixternal> haha
[01:40] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i didn't have that installed, that might make a difference
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: i'm going to look at this tomorrow, can't focus right now
[02:17] <nixternal> anybody an NFS or ZeroConf guru?
[02:17] <nixternal> that is the last 2 sections I have for networking
[02:21] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3811 kubuntu/network/C/network.xml: more network content - NFS and ZeroConf needs content
[03:27] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3812 kubuntu/ (libs/kde-menus-C.ent programming/C/programming.xml): Kubuntu Programming section 99% complete - added new menuchoices for some apps
[03:32] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3813 kubuntu/ (releasenotes/ unused/releasenotes/): release notes moving to kubuntu.org
[03:32] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3814 kubuntu/ (misc/ unused/misc/): old desktop guide
[03:35] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3815 kubuntu/ (5 files in 5 dirs): moving, removing, unusing
[05:25] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3816 kubuntu/add-applications/C/add-applications.xml: add-applications 95% complete - needs aptitude procedure and info
[05:27] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3817 kubuntu/getting-help/C/getting-help.xml: getting-help about ready
[05:44] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3818 kubuntu/newtokubuntu/C/newtokubuntu.xml: newtokubuntu section rewritten - need Windows and Mac switching links
[05:46] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3819 kubuntu/unused/ (desktopguide/ misc/ quickguide/ quicktour/ releasenotes/): removing, renaming, cleaning up
[05:47] <nixternal> ooh, sorry for the flooding
[05:48] <LaserJock> nixternal: lol
[05:52] <nixternal> heh, I have 18 days to get Kubuntu docs finished
[05:53] <nixternal> jjesse: I cheated, the programming.xml I stole/borrowed from Ubuntu, moved all the GTK junk towards the bottom and added all the C++ and Qt stuff at the top :)
[05:53] <nixternal> tomorrow I have massive LUG event, yay
[06:09] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: bhuvan * r3820 generic/serverguide/C/ (file-server.xml mail.xml web-servers.xml wikis.xml): (log message trimmed)
[06:09] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: Add material for ruby-on-rails and ejabberd instant messaging server. In
[06:09] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: addtion, it includes some brush-up fixes.
[06:09] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: * generic/serverguide/C/mail.xml
[06:09] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation:  Fix the URL.
[06:09] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation:  Add material for ejabberd server. The configuration section is
[06:09] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation:  incomplete.
[06:47] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3821 kubuntu/ (4 files in 3 dirs): copied over keeping-safe from ubuntu and edited accordingly
[06:50] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3822 kubuntu/index.xml: fixed the temp index for doc.ubuntu.com
[06:54] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3823 kubuntu/Makefile: added new docs and cleaned up Kubuntu Makefile
[05:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86058 in xubuntu-docs (main) "Minor spelling correction - "Add Applications -> Synaptic"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86058
[07:08] <GatoLoko> hi
[07:10] <jjesse> hello GatoLoko
[07:10] <GatoLoko> is there any convention about naming wiki pages or about translated pages?
[07:12] <jjesse> GatoLoko:  umm i'm probabllyu not the best person to answer your question
[07:17] <nixternal> hiya jjesse
[07:19] <GatoLoko> i've read something about not trying to translate the wiki because it's huge and changes fast, but someone asked for a translation of one page and I don't know if I must do it in the wiki or put the translation in another site and give him a link
[07:19] <jjesse> hiya nixternal
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> its really hard to try this printing thing when I don't have it on my computer
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: ^^
[08:37] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: don't worry about it, I will work on it tonight
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: i'll translate the packages, and make sure there is content
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll do my best, maybe I can virtualize my Edgy Cd
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86124 in xubuntu-docs (main) "Instructions on how to add/chge repositories needs updating" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86124
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86126 in ubuntu-doc "Packaging Guide -- unclear instructions on page "Packaging from Scratch"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86126
[10:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86127 in xubuntu-docs (main) "Calendar listed as "Calendar" in Xfce menu, not "Orage"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86127
[10:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86128 in xubuntu-docs (main) "Docs reference Xfmedia, but Xubuntu now uses gxine by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86128