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| Hobbsee | \sh_away: did you see that you've got comments on your REVU pages? | 12:54 |
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| ajmitch | hi Hobbsee | 12:54 |
| Hobbsee | hey ajmitch | 12:54 |
| Hobbsee | oh, it's been changed since then | 12:54 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: poke | 01:00 |
| Hobbsee | oh, it's shawarma, not \sh_away | 01:00 |
| === Hobbsee must be going insane... | ||
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 01:03 |
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| Hobbsee | heya bddebian! | 01:04 |
| bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 01:04 |
| ajmitch | hi bddebian | 01:05 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 01:05 |
| bddebian | I hate upstream authors some times | 01:06 |
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| shawarma | Hobbsee: Er... Huh? | 01:14 |
| LaserJock | evening MOTU | 01:14 |
| shawarma | bddebian: Hey! Could you take another peek at my network-manager packages? I've changed the maintainer (and nothing else), so it should be a quick review. | 01:15 |
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| bddebian | shawarma: Hobbsee and I already have ;-) | 01:15 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 01:15 |
| shawarma | bddebian: So you have. Sorry. | 01:15 |
| bddebian | NP :) | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: see the typo alert :) | 01:16 |
| bddebian | Did you not get what Hobbsee wrote/ | 01:16 |
| bddebian | ? | 01:16 |
| coNP | How is it possible to commit a bugfix to a Ubuntu package that has a maintainer with no @ubuntu.com address? | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | the maintainer address in debian/control needs to be a ubuntu address - not the changelog one | 01:16 |
| coNP | Hobbsee: okay, I know | 01:17 |
| LaserJock | and I'm not sure if that will even cause a problem or if it's just a warning | 01:17 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: it ftbfs, apparently | 01:17 |
| coNP | But it is not, and it is a *ubuntu* package | 01:17 |
| coNP | it says: "debuild: fatal error at line 1228:" | 01:17 |
| coNP | and exits, of course | 01:17 |
| LaserJock | really? that sucks :( | 01:17 |
| LaserJock | ah well, I guess it'll make us fix it :/ | 01:18 |
| coNP | I allready feisty that might be a problem | 01:18 |
| shawarma | bddebian: I was just a bit confused by the sh_away/shawarma confusion. :-) | 01:18 |
| bddebian | Ah :-) | 01:19 |
| Fujitsu | coNP, as long as a package has XubuntuY, it won't let you build without @ubuntu.com in the Maintainer field... Isn't this new policy great? | 01:20 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: yes, so was i :P | 01:20 |
| === Hobbsee would have thought a !*@debian.org address would have sufficed... | ||
| coNP | Fujitsu: it is, however what to do with "legacy" packges? | 01:20 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: but that's the point | 01:20 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, I would have thought that you would be able to opt out, at least. | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | the whole point is that Ubuntu packages should have ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com or ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com | 01:21 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: ie, ftbfs on a XubuntuY version, with a *@debian.org email address - not ftbfs on anything that's not a *@ubuntu.com address | 01:21 |
| coNP | actually this suffix is neither debian.org nor ubuntu.com | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | well, the spec is to move away from actual people listed as Maintainer | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | so it shouldn't really even have @ubuntu.com addresses | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | to reflect that we team maintain packages | 01:22 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: But a number of packages are maintained by certain people. | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | but they aren't technically | 01:23 |
| Fujitsu | In reality they are, though. | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | we have no NMU | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | any MOTU can upload any package in Universe | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | and core-dev can upload any package in Main and Universe | 01:24 |
| Fujitsu | It's not a matter of whether they can. It's whether they do. | 01:24 |
| Fujitsu | There are some packages for which it is a given that only one or two people touch them. | 01:24 |
| bddebian | somerville32: ping (catfish) | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: sure, but there is no Policy to govern that | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | so a person should look at the changelog rather than Maintainer: | 01:25 |
| shawarma | bddebian, Hobbsee: Fresh version of the nm packages are uploaded the typo fixed. | 01:26 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: nice | 01:27 |
| Fujitsu | shawarma, do you need someone to look at them? I use both a bit. | 01:27 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: can you ack, upload them please? | 01:27 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: if you like | 01:27 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: bddebian's pretty much done the second ack | 01:28 |
| shawarma | I can also just upload them myself.. | 01:28 |
| bddebian | shawarma: I would just upload them both at this point | 01:29 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: Debian wants us to remove them from Maintainer: , the only way for us to replace that since we have team maintainership is to set MOTU or core-dev as maintainer | 01:29 |
| shawarma | Fujitsu: bddebian has checked it numerous times. For now I actually just want to get them in before FF. | 01:29 |
| shawarma | bddebian: Excellent. Will do. | 01:29 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: if somebody wants to be known as the Ubuntu maintainer they can put in a @ubuntu.com address | 01:29 |
| shawarma | bddebian, Hobbsee: Yay! Uploaded. Thanks a lot! | 01:31 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: :D | 01:31 |
| zul | there...xen updated | 01:31 |
| bddebian | shawarma: No, thank YOU :-) | 01:32 |
| bddebian | Gawd reviews sucks wit this stupid maintainer thing :-( | 01:33 |
| === Hobbsee emails motulist @ the REVU's | ||
| shawarma | Right, I'm off to bed. G'night guys. | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | night shawarma | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | cy shawarma | 01:34 |
| bddebian | Gnight shawarma | 01:35 |
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| LaserJock | grrr, what the heck is it doing/ | 01:49 |
| LaserJock | *? | 01:49 |
| somerville32 | bddebian, pong | 01:51 |
| Fujitsu | What is it doing? | 01:51 |
| bddebian | somerville32: Did catfish get rejected? | 01:51 |
| somerville32 | I'm not a motu | 01:51 |
| somerville32 | I can't upload | 01:51 |
| bddebian | Jereme said he already uploaded it. Did it never get uploaded? | 01:52 |
| somerville32 | He said it in here or on the comments? | 01:52 |
| bddebian | On the comments | 01:52 |
| bddebian | But I don't see it in the new queue | 01:53 |
| somerville32 | That got uploaded a long time ago | 01:53 |
| somerville32 | This is a new version | 01:53 |
| bddebian | Ohh, OK | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: adept_update was complainging about some debconf niceness and said to change it but gave no option to do so | 01:57 |
| LaserJock | so it ended up not installing anything | 01:57 |
| LaserJock | apt-get dist-upgrade FTW | 01:58 |
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| LaserJock | imbrandon!!!!! | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | seriously uncool | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | it did it again | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | and it took 2 reboots to get it back to life | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | I suspect KDE is overheating my machine or something | 02:07 |
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| imbrandon | hum | 02:08 |
| jdong | wow... the basement of the library is REALLY peaceful.... | 02:09 |
| jdong | guys, in about 20-30min kick me out, please :) | 02:09 |
| jdong | staying here too long probably isn't healthy :) | 02:09 |
| LaserJock | the library? | 02:09 |
| LaserJock | I love libraries | 02:09 |
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| === jdong found a nice LaTeX book | ||
| LaserJock | cool | 02:10 |
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| jdong | I don't see why people whine about LaTeX so much... so far I've found it less cumbersome than a WYSIWYG editor | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | it depends | 02:11 |
| jdong | maybe I'm just not deep enough into it | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | I once did a 4ft x 5ft poster entirely in LaTeX | 02:11 |
| jdong | for typing up EECS homework... LaTeX wins | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | took me about a month | 02:12 |
| jdong | going in and out of monospace codeblocks in OOo ain't no walk in the park :D | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | but it was beautiful | 02:12 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: Dad once did an A0 one. Cost some AUD200 to print. | 02:12 |
| jdong | LaserJock: sounds like fun :D | 02:12 |
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| Fujitsu | jdong: Plus, OOo is a bloated POS. | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | these days I use PowerPoint for posters though | 02:13 |
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| LaserJock | it's faster and cheaper | 02:13 |
| jdong | interesting | 02:13 |
| imbrandon | koffice ftw | 02:13 |
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| jdong | imbrandon: lol :) | 02:14 |
| LaserJock | koffice seems quite good | 02:14 |
| LaserJock | but even openoffice doesn't have good enough compatibility for me | 02:14 |
| imbrandon | you mean MS office doesnt have good enough compat with the other two major players? | 02:15 |
| imbrandon | heh | 02:15 |
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| imbrandon | spin, got to love it | 02:15 |
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| ajmitch | Fujitsu: btw, changing components.Interface to Interface in twisted-web2's iweb.py lets zope3 start | 02:16 |
| imbrandon | its like the diffrence from when MS says "... make sure your laptop is ready for Vista ..." vs " .. is linux ready for your laptop ... " its all about word smithing | 02:16 |
| jdong | lol | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: it's true, but as long as MS Office is on all the computers I have to present on there isn't a ton I can do | 02:16 |
| imbrandon | MS isnt a software company , its a marketing company that markets software | 02:16 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: seems that it can make do with zope.interface | 02:17 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock, true | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | it's really been sad to see my advisor's computer usage over the years | 02:18 |
| LaserJock | when I first started working for him he was a die-hard Linux user | 02:19 |
| LaserJock | wouldn't touch MS | 02:19 |
| LaserJock | installed OpenOffice on all the dept's lab computer | 02:19 |
| jdong | imbrandon: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/node/2075 << that's a joke, right? | 02:20 |
| jdong | the more I read it the more I get the feeling the author was serious | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | now he's all OS X and MS Office | 02:20 |
| Fujitsu | ajmitch, nice... I'll look at later and try to use it a lot to break it. | 02:20 |
| bddebian | jdong: He sure sounds serious, even if crackful | 02:21 |
| imbrandon | hahah no idea, some people are just dense and view "slave" as a bad word when it has a real meaning | 02:21 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: yeah, I've just tried starting it - there are a bunch of other changes in SVN, it's hard to pick out only the ones that are needed | 02:21 |
| imbrandon | that would be like changing ide drives from master-->slave | 02:22 |
| jdong | imbrandon: that was up for discussion | 02:22 |
| imbrandon | people need to get over it, it has no racial conotaions | 02:22 |
| jdong | imbrandon: in San Fran IIRC | 02:22 |
| bddebian | That sounds about right | 02:22 |
| jdong | imbrandon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master-slave_%28computers%29#Controversy | 02:22 |
| jdong | sad but true | 02:23 |
| imbrandon | jdong, maybe by one company, but thousands of compansy in many countries use those terms | 02:23 |
| imbrandon | it would be inpratical to change | 02:23 |
| jdong | no kidding :) | 02:23 |
| imbrandon | and it figures it was on the left coast | 02:23 |
| imbrandon | anyhow, bbiab | 02:23 |
| jdong | I find it amusing to find people complaining about that | 02:23 |
| LaserJock | well, at some level it does make sense | 02:23 |
| jdong | and also , a Christian group objected to *nix being taught in some school district | 02:24 |
| jdong | due to the use of 'daemons' | 02:24 |
| imbrandon | i dont i find it sick that in todays world people look for something to complain racialy about when its way offbase | 02:24 |
| ajmitch | jdong: idiocy | 02:24 |
| jdong | ajmitch: was that directed at me or the article? :D | 02:24 |
| jdong | ajmitch: either one would be correct :D | 02:24 |
| ajmitch | heh | 02:24 |
| LaserJock | people ask Ichthux and Ubuntu CE if they've replaced all daemons | 02:25 |
| jdong | lol | 02:25 |
| LaserJock | I think it's a bit entertaining, but whatever | 02:25 |
| imbrandon | as long as there is a human race SOMEONE will complain about something, you have to choose your battles and these people obviously have no clue | 02:25 |
| jdong | /etc/cron.daily/50-exorcise-daemons..... | 02:25 |
| jdong | LaserJock: IMO it's funny when people do it as satire, really concerning when people seem serious | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | well, if it was actually spelled demons I could see it | 02:26 |
| jdong | LaserJock: daemon/demon are interchangeable | 02:26 |
| imbrandon | im gonna make a distro thats call "redhead step-child" | 02:26 |
| jdong | isn't that kubuntu? | 02:26 |
| bddebian | hehe | 02:26 |
| jdong | oops | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | lol | 02:26 |
| === imbrandon /kicks jdong | ||
| jdong | LOL | 02:26 |
| imbrandon | thats edubuntu | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | ouch!! | 02:27 |
| imbrandon | ;) | 02:27 |
| imbrandon | {,k}ubuntu satanic edition .... http://parker1.co.uk/satanic/ | 02:28 |
| imbrandon | :) | 02:28 |
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| LaserJock | Edubuntu rocks so just leave it alone :p | 02:28 |
| jdong | anybody getting a Cannot Unmount volume: Can't remove directory error? | 02:30 |
| jdong | when unmount stuff? | 02:30 |
| jdong | (GNOME) | 02:30 |
| LaserJock | I haven't | 02:30 |
| jdong | aha bug 85424 | 02:31 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 85424 in gnome-mount "Unmount fails every time " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85424 | 02:31 |
| jdong | what's the etiquette with Confirmed? | 02:31 |
| jdong | should developers set that or can I set it if I'm reasonably confident of a confirmation? | 02:32 |
| LaserJock | I think you can | 02:32 |
| crimsun | if you've experienced the precise symptoms, set it. | 02:32 |
| LaserJock | you might have to be in ubuntu-qa | 02:32 |
| LaserJock | I can't remember | 02:32 |
| jdong | crimsun: ok, there's in total like 8 people reporting identical symptoms | 02:32 |
| crimsun | I have not been able to reproduce those symptoms either from a dist-upgrade (from Breezy) or on a fresh daily. | 02:34 |
| jdong | crimsun: do you have an iPod? | 02:35 |
| crimsun | e.g., not reproducible on three different iPod models | 02:35 |
| jdong | hmm | 02:35 |
| jdong | interesting | 02:35 |
| jdong | it happens on my system.. dist-upgraded from edgy.... | 02:35 |
| crimsun | nor is it reproducible on six different other usb mass storage devices. | 02:35 |
| crimsun | in other words, you all just suck. | 02:35 |
| jdong | LOL | 02:36 |
| crimsun | ;) | 02:36 |
| jdong | crimsun: when do you think tickless will happen? | 02:37 |
| === jdong still irked about C3/C4 buzzing on his laptop... | ||
| crimsun | err, best ask Ben/Matthew ... | 02:37 |
| jdong | ok | 02:37 |
| crimsun | at this stage, it's fairly unlikely for Feisty | 02:37 |
| jdong | right, I realize that :) | 02:38 |
| jdong | and speaking of that, is it likely that ext4dev would be enabled? | 02:38 |
| crimsun | (see above) | 02:38 |
| crimsun | I'm a measley community contact for a tiny kernel subsystem | 02:38 |
| jdong | crimsun: since when was ALSA small? | 02:39 |
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| crimsun | I take the inverse of its bug count | 02:39 |
| jdong | lol | 02:39 |
| ajmitch | hello crimsun | 02:39 |
| crimsun | hello ajmitch | 02:39 |
| paulproteus | I'm a Debian maintainer and I'd like my Debian package to be merged into Ubuntu for the Feisty release. | 02:44 |
| paulproteus | This is about the alpine package; I talked to some people around here a week or so ago, and I wanted to make sure I didn't miss a deadline for a freeze. | 02:45 |
| paulproteus | I also am not sure where to find the freeze timeline. | 02:45 |
| crimsun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule | 02:45 |
| paulproteus | Sweet, thanks! | 02:45 |
| jdong | paulproteus: probably not too sweet ;-) | 02:46 |
| jdong | I think it's already age of the UVF Exception Requests? | 02:46 |
| Fujitsu | jdong, 4 days until the new package deadline. | 02:46 |
| jdong | ah, ok | 02:46 |
| Fujitsu | UVF was a little while ago, but that's just new upstream versions, not whole new packages. | 02:47 |
| jdong | ah, ok | 02:47 |
| jdong | I thought new packages would've gone under the same category | 02:47 |
| Fujitsu | Oddly enough, no. | 02:47 |
| jdong | well I guess it kinda makes sense | 02:48 |
| Fujitsu | It's probably because there's less chance of a regression. | 02:48 |
| jdong | right | 02:48 |
| Fujitsu | It can't break worse than not existing. | 02:48 |
| jdong | since it didn't exist before | 02:48 |
| paulproteus | Hah. (-: | 02:48 |
| jdong | Fujitsu: you have no idea how many backports tickets I've supported with that logic! | 02:48 |
| Fujitsu | Hehe. | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | paulproteus: which package? | 02:49 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: alpine I think he said | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | ah, missed that bit | 02:49 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: attentively read scrollback you must :) | 02:49 |
| === paulproteus nods | ||
| crimsun | (just file a sync request for it, sub ubuntu-universe-sponsors, then move along) | 02:50 |
| === Hobbsee read almost all of it | ||
| paulproteus | It hasn't been built by the autobuilders yet, so it's not on packages.debian.org, but it's in the process of that right now. | 02:50 |
| keescook | hiya paulproteus | 02:50 |
| paulproteus | Hah! Hi keescook. (-: | 02:50 |
| Fujitsu | paulproteus, has it passed through NEW? | 02:50 |
| zul | ls | 02:50 |
| crimsun | Permission denied. | 02:51 |
| paulproteus | Fujitsu, Months ago; this is just a new version of a package I put in Debian a few months back. | 02:51 |
| jdong | Password: | 02:51 |
| bddebian | crimsun: hehe | 02:51 |
| paulproteus | "File a sync request" you say, crimsun? | 02:51 |
| crimsun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess | 02:51 |
| paulproteus | crimsun, Thanks, I appreciate the patience. (-: | 02:51 |
| jdong | aack that's 3La^2 not 31a^2 | 02:52 |
| jdong | pffft | 02:52 |
| === jdong files "Maxima stupid font costed me 7 extra minutes doing my physics" | ||
| LaserJock | :( | 02:53 |
| === Fujitsu shudders at the mention of Maxima. | ||
| === crimsun files damned backports cost me my sanity | ||
| paulproteus | In what package do I file sync requests? | 02:53 |
| paulproteus | Against what package, that is; I'm at Launchpad now. | 02:54 |
| crimsun | leave it blank. | 02:54 |
| jdong | crimsun: lol someone say flashplugin? :D | 02:54 |
| crimsun | (the source package isn't in Ubuntu yet) | 02:54 |
| paulproteus | Thanks. (-: | 02:54 |
| jdong | anyone else feel latex leaves a mess in one's workspace? | 02:57 |
| jdong | all these intermediate files... | 02:57 |
| LaserJock | well, it can be messy | 02:58 |
| === jdong figures out what to glob to get rid of all the crap | ||
| LaserJock | but it can also be helpful | 02:58 |
| jdong | LaserJock: helpful? all these log and aux and whatnot files? | 02:58 |
| LaserJock | yeah, bibliographic material, etc. gets used in there | 02:58 |
| jdong | vim couldn't be more annoying if it created 5 extra randomly-named backups! | 02:58 |
| jdong | LaserJock: ah , ok I see... | 02:59 |
| LaserJock | not all of it is just useless junk ;-) | 02:59 |
| jdong | lol that's news to me | 02:59 |
| jdong | baw I broke latex :( | 03:00 |
| jdong | wait no, wrong terminal | 03:00 |
| === jdong needs to find closest coffee shop | ||
| === paulproteus grins | ||
| jdong | oh dear paulproteus please don't start the latex innuendos :D | 03:01 |
| Mez | jdong, you broke latex? you should go get the morning after pill | 03:01 |
| jdong | MEZ!!!! | 03:01 |
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| Mez | jdong, yes? | 03:01 |
| jdong | Mez: I love you. | 03:01 |
| Mez | jdong, why ? | 03:01 |
| jdong | Mez: that was sarcastic. | 03:01 |
| === Mez feels hurt | ||
| jdong | I don't really like you. I was just saying that for comedic effect | 03:02 |
| jdong | ;-) | 03:02 |
| === Mez cries | ||
| === ajmitch wonders if we can start banning people | ||
| paulproteus | jdong, Those didn't even occur to me, though I see others here are more creative than I. (-; | 03:02 |
| jdong | paulproteus: it's not creativity... I get it from everyone in CSAI lab that I asked a latex question to | 03:03 |
| jdong | paulproteus: it was amusing the first once or twice... but 3 hours later.... not so much | 03:03 |
| paulproteus | Duly noted, jdong. (-: | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: banning which people? | 03:03 |
| Mez | ajmitch, who, me or jdong? | 03:03 |
| jdong | Mez: probably all of us :D | 03:04 |
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| ajmitch | Mez: both | 03:04 |
| ajmitch | hey bmonty | 03:04 |
| Fujitsu | Let's ban the whole channel! | 03:04 |
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| ajmitch | aw | 03:04 |
| Fujitsu | ... quick visit. | 03:04 |
| LaserJock | oh please do ban the whole channel | 03:04 |
| === Mez sets mode _b *!*@ubuntu/* | ||
| Fujitsu | And he left #ubuntu-devel a few seconds later. | 03:04 |
| ajmitch | probably because of you wanting to ban him :) | 03:05 |
| === Mez sets mode +b *!*@ubuntu/* | ||
| LaserJock | jdong: wheren't we supposed to kick you out? | 03:05 |
| jdong | LaserJock: never! being in a basment rocks! | 03:05 |
| ajmitch | actually yes | 03:05 |
| jdong | LaserJock: especially one that has wifi! | 03:05 |
| zul | heh...i suggest a wordban | 03:05 |
| jdong | like prevu, backports, reiser4..... | 03:06 |
| zul | ubuntuforums | 03:06 |
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| ajmitch | I don't think he'll care | 03:06 |
| ajmitch | bmonty: stay this time, k? | 03:07 |
| bmonty | sure :) | 03:07 |
| bmonty | sorry about that | 03:07 |
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| bmonty | hows it going? | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | good to see you, how's it going? | 03:07 |
| ajmitch | heh, alright :) | 03:07 |
| crimsun | heya bmonty | 03:07 |
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| Fujitsu | Hi bmonty. | 03:07 |
| bmonty | hi crimsun | 03:07 |
| jdong | whoa! it's Kano! | 03:07 |
| === Mez saw a windows vista poster the other day and thought it was advertising World of Warcraft | ||
| nox- | moin | 03:07 |
| jdong | Mez: lol | 03:07 |
| Fujitsu | Mez: They're everywhere. | 03:07 |
| Mez | it was like | 03:07 |
| Fujitsu | What a great slogan it is, too. | 03:08 |
| Mez | "WOW starts here..." | 03:08 |
| Kano | hi | 03:08 |
| Mez | Fujitsu, my lug has plans to subvertise those adverts | 03:08 |
| bmonty | ajmitch: things are good...you? | 03:08 |
| Kano | did someone try to change to a dir with a "_" and mc? | 03:08 |
| LaserJock | bmonty!!!! | 03:08 |
| ajmitch | bmonty: doing alright here | 03:09 |
| bmonty | hi LaserJock | 03:09 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: I blinked a couple of time, too | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | bmonty: how's Gabe and the rest of the family? | 03:09 |
| bmonty | LaserJock: Gabe is doing well....walking around now. We have another one on the way now too :) | 03:10 |
| LaserJock | bmonty: congrats! | 03:10 |
| bmonty | thanks :) | 03:10 |
| crimsun | Kano: what's the issue? | 03:10 |
| ajmitch | bmonty: congrats :) | 03:10 |
| ajmitch | seems like half the people round here are married with kids.. | 03:11 |
| bmonty | :) | 03:11 |
| bddebian | w00t bmonty. Now you can suffer like me! :) | 03:11 |
| bmonty | heh...hi bddebian | 03:12 |
| nox- | crimsun, says Warning: Cannot change to <dir>. | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: so when will you become one of them? | 03:12 |
| nox- | and tarring up the dir via mc fails too | 03:12 |
| crimsun | nox-: got an strace -fF? | 03:12 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: oh I might get married in a couple of weeks, got nothing better to do :P | 03:13 |
| nox- | it works when run via strace... :-O | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: do you know if konqi works with mozilla plugins? | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | or rather if mozilla plugins work in konqi | 03:14 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: it may. i think it does, actually | 03:14 |
| nox- | Kano told me about it, and i was able to reproduce it using the feisty-desktop-i386.iso in qemu | 03:15 |
| nox- | it also works when starting mc with SHELL=dash | 03:16 |
| LaserJock | lol, I've got more KDE apps than Gnome apps open right now | 03:20 |
| LaserJock | although I've only got 4 things so that's not saying much I suppose | 03:20 |
| crimsun | Kano: / nox-: I'm looking at https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?18136 ( -> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153925 ) | 03:22 |
| Ubugtu | bugs.gentoo.org bug 153925 in Applications "app-misc/mc wont work with new bash-3.2 propeply with all directories" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 03:22 |
| Kano | fixed? | 03:23 |
| nox- | aah | 03:23 |
| nox- | yeah that seems to be this bug | 03:23 |
| Kano | does not really be fixed in universe | 03:24 |
| nox- | so bash needs to be updated? | 03:24 |
| crimsun | mc. | 03:24 |
| nox- | i c | 03:24 |
| crimsun | mc_4.6.1-6ubuntu1_source.changes: done. | 03:38 |
| crimsun | Successfully uploaded packages. | 03:38 |
| crimsun | Kano: / nox-: thanks. | 03:38 |
| nox- | yw | 03:38 |
| Kano | crimsun, fine | 03:38 |
| Kano | i really started to hate ubuntu because of not working mc ;) | 03:38 |
| Kano | now i can use it again | 03:39 |
| Kano | just compiled my own version with that patch,worked too | 03:39 |
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| Kano | bye | 03:50 |
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| crimsun | paulproteus: ACKed. | 03:51 |
| crimsun | please remember that in the future, you need to include the Debian component and the Debian changelog entries. | 03:52 |
| paulproteus | crimsun, ls | 03:54 |
| paulproteus | Gah, sorry. | 03:54 |
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| paulproteus | crimsun, Thanks. | 03:55 |
| paulproteus | crimsun, Also, were you involved in #debian-kde like four years ago? | 03:55 |
| crimsun | something like that. | 03:55 |
| paulproteus | Well, rehi then. (-: | 03:56 |
| crimsun | w/ kosh, roey, etc. | 03:56 |
| crimsun | re | 03:56 |
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| paulproteus | I remember Roey; I think I saw him around recently. | 03:57 |
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| LaserJock | yikes, I was getting close to a full hard drive on my laptop :/ | 04:12 |
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| pochu | hey, do you know what's the way to log the terminal output into a file? | 04:14 |
| crimsun | what do you wanted logged, stdout? stderr? both? | 04:14 |
| crimsun | foo -flags >file.txt 2>&1 | 04:15 |
| pochu | crimsun: thanks! | 04:15 |
| jdong | or foo &>file.txt | 04:15 |
| jdong | if you're a bash user | 04:16 |
| jdong | faster to write :) | 04:16 |
| pochu | :) | 04:16 |
| pochu | and to have it logged but also show the output in the terminal? with that, it just logs it, but I can't see what's happening :) | 04:19 |
| pochu | I want it for a dpkg-buildpackage :) | 04:19 |
| crimsun | then add tee(1) into the mix | 04:20 |
| pochu | mix? | 04:21 |
| nox- | or use script(1) | 04:21 |
| crimsun | e.g., foo -flags |tee shite | 04:22 |
| pochu | crimsun: ok, thanks! | 04:22 |
| pochu | mmm... what's an install log? the output of "dpkg -i"? :) | 04:27 |
| crimsun | essentially. | 04:28 |
| pochu | hehe, ok! | 04:28 |
| pochu | ty | 04:28 |
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| TheMuso | /c | 04:31 |
| TheMuso | bah | 04:31 |
| nox- | gnite | 04:52 |
| RAOF | Hm. What's the etiquette for fixing someone else's package on REVU? | 04:57 |
| elkbuntu | depends who you ask | 04:58 |
| RAOF | So, say that I ask you :) | 04:58 |
| elkbuntu | then i'd have no clue, but if in the situation i'd at least try contacting the packager | 04:58 |
| RAOF | I've fired off an email to the original packager, saying that I'd like to help him get the package ready. | 04:58 |
| elkbuntu | how long ago? | 04:59 |
| RAOF | 3 days. | 04:59 |
| elkbuntu | factor in the weekend effect. and ask the next person to show signs of life. im not even a packager ;) | 05:00 |
| RAOF | :) | 05:00 |
| bddebian | RAOF: Which package? | 05:00 |
| RAOF | gnome-compiz-manager :) | 05:00 |
| RAOF | You've recently reviewed it :) | 05:00 |
| bddebian | Ah | 05:01 |
| crimsun | you could just link to your debdiff | 05:01 |
| crimsun | (against the latest source package on revu) | 05:01 |
| RAOF | How? I'm not a MOTU, so I can only comment on my uploads. | 05:01 |
| RAOF | I suppose I could send the debdiff to one of you fine MOTUs :) | 05:02 |
| LaserJock | there really needs to be more coordination around beryl packaging | 05:02 |
| LaserJock | aren't there like at least 3-4 people working on it? | 05:03 |
| crimsun | hopefully they've all integrated the changes from the comments made by Debian's ftpmasters | 05:03 |
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| pochu | night everybody! | 05:06 |
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| crimsun | Fujitsu: quodlibet may help | 05:06 |
| Fujitsu | crimsun, thanks. | 05:06 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: fix bzr, kthnksbye! | 05:21 |
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| LaserJock | Hobbsee: what's wrong with it? | 05:22 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: it's too darned slow | 05:23 |
| Fujitsu | Can I have some opinions as to what to do with upstreamdev? The Debian maintainer basically packaged the first version 3 months ago, and hasn't been contactable in a bit over 2 months. Since then, 2 versions have been released. 0.3 uses an entirely different build system (distutils-based). Is it appropriate in such a case to switch from an ugly debhelper-based debian/rules? | 05:24 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee, I agree. | 05:24 |
| RAOF | So, I've got a debdiff to fix the problems you found in gnome-compiz-manager, bddebian. Linked http://www.raof.dyndns.org/gnome-compiz-manager.debdiff | 05:27 |
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| crimsun | Fujitsu: if you feel the benefits for maintainability outweigh the cost of carrying a delta, then yes. | 08:35 |
| Fujitsu | crimsun: The delta would be greater if I were to retain the debhelperness, as it would need to be literally entirely rewritten. | 08:36 |
| crimsun | seems like a fairly straightforward decision, then | 08:37 |
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| imbrandon | hum | 08:51 |
| imbrandon | i love when people make a server with a 1GB / | 08:51 |
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| Fujitsu | imbrandon, that sounds a bit big. | 08:52 |
| imbrandon | just a tad *rolls eyes* | 08:53 |
| imbrandon | esp when /var isnt seperate | 08:53 |
| imbrandon | man i'm gonna just fskin reimage this thing | 08:53 |
| imbrandon | ho hum | 08:53 |
| Fujitsu | Oh, /var not seperate. | 08:54 |
| Fujitsu | I normally have <= 1GiB, but with seperate stuff. | 08:54 |
| imbrandon | yea only /home and /opt are seperate on this box | 08:56 |
| imbrandon | who ever installed it is an idiot looks like | 08:56 |
| imbrandon | would have been better off makin one big / | 08:56 |
| Fujitsu | Yeah. | 08:59 |
| Fujitsu | That's crazy! | 08:59 |
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| imbrandon | doh | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | my blog post errored, took me 2 hours to write it ...... /me cries | 09:12 |
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| imbrandon | guess i'll just make a shorter post .... | 09:13 |
| crimsun | silly users and their blogs. | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | heh | 09:15 |
| crimsun | ;) | 09:15 |
| crimsun | even Andrew has a blog configured, though I don't know if it's active yet | 09:15 |
| imbrandon | well i tried to wrap up a quote from jdub, vista thoughts, gnome/kde/linus ramblings , buildd farm announcement and update and ummm some other misc stuff all in one post | 09:16 |
| imbrandon | because i've been blog slacking | 09:16 |
| imbrandon | ohhhh he does ? nice | 09:16 |
| imbrandon | ohh and some jokosher on win32 info | 09:17 |
| imbrandon | gah, yea i really should make seperate posts | 09:17 |
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| imbrandon | when do we see a crimsun blog? | 09:21 |
| imbrandon | :) | 09:21 |
| crimsun | I hate blogs. | 09:24 |
| crimsun | besides, I have lp.net/~ | 09:25 |
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| imbrandon | hehe yea | 09:31 |
| Amaranth | there is a reason the blog program i use is called 'drivel' ;) | 09:32 |
| poningru | I had a question re: launchpad.net | 09:38 |
| poningru | when someone puts needs info | 09:39 |
| poningru | is there a field to put what info is needed? | 09:39 |
| Amaranth | comment :) | 09:39 |
| poningru | lamezorz... cause lots triagers just leave that alone and put in need info | 09:39 |
| imbrandon | when you choose need info there is a comments field | 09:44 |
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| asimon | Hello, there seems to be a new change in dpkg-source. It errors out because "Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address". So whats the new policy for people without ubuntu addresses regarding packages for REVU? Should the maintainer field be set to ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com or can this check be disabled? Thanks. | 12:10 |
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| RAOF | asimon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField | 12:12 |
| RAOF | It kinda sucks. | 12:12 |
| asimon | ok, thanks | 12:12 |
| StevenK | Drat, I'm going to have to remember it when I next do a bug fix. :-/ | 12:12 |
| StevenK | RAOF: I'm looking at your debdiff now, by the way. | 12:12 |
| RAOF | Oh, hurrah! Which one :) | 12:13 |
| Amaranth | if you actually change the package you should change that field | 12:13 |
| StevenK | 85705 | 12:13 |
| Amaranth | what sucks is when you just want to do a rebuild | 12:13 |
| StevenK | RAOF: If you want me to look at others, throw me the bug numbers. | 12:13 |
| RAOF | Wooo! Working python-pyinotify! apt-zeroconf will work again :) | 12:13 |
| RAOF | Nah, the only other one I've got is for a package on REVU which isn't mine. | 12:13 |
| Amaranth | RAOF: what did you change? | 12:13 |
| Amaranth | RAOF: rules fuckery? | 12:14 |
| RAOF | Amaranth: Yeah. | 12:14 |
| Amaranth | RAOF: be sure to give those back to the debian maintainer | 12:14 |
| RAOF | If you want to know, it turns out that the _inotify.so file wasn't being segregated based upon the python-version | 12:14 |
| Amaranth | i said that :P | 12:14 |
| === StevenK does a test build. | ||
| RAOF | Amaranth: No, you said that the 2.4 version was being installed over the 2.5 version :P | 12:15 |
| Amaranth | err, yes | 12:15 |
| Amaranth | because it was? | 12:15 |
| StevenK | Yummy, the clean rule wants python2.5 | 12:15 |
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| RAOF | Amaranth: Well, no. The 2.5 version was never *built*, because the _inotify.so file was already there from the 2.4 build. | 12:16 |
| coNP | Amaranth: sorry, is that if I want to fix a bug in a package, I also should change the maintainer to ubuntu-dev / ubuntu motu? | 12:16 |
| asimon | Hm, the DebianMaintainerField only speaks about packages relative to Debian, What about new packages for REVU? They need to have the maintainer field set to MOTU too? | 12:16 |
| RAOF | asimon: If you want them to build, yes. | 12:16 |
| Amaranth | coNP: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField | 12:16 |
| Amaranth | asimon: why not? the MOTU are responsible for them | 12:16 |
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| asimon | RAOF: Okay, thanks. | 12:17 |
| === Hobbsee waves | ||
| asimon | Amaranth: Yes, I have nothing against this policy, I just wanted to be sure. :-) | 12:17 |
| Hobbsee | kind of scary, for us MOTU's | 12:17 |
| coNP | Amaranth: yes, I am looking at this page, that only states that "the field will be set <whatever>"... I am a newbie, and not sure if I should set it or "it will be set by someone / some tool" | 12:18 |
| Amaranth | you set it | 12:18 |
| === Hobbsee can picture the mail - "you havent updated $mypetpackage yet - YOU ALL SUCK!!!!!oneeleventyone! | ||
| Hobbsee | " | 12:18 |
| RAOF | Ok, so how should I share my newfound ability to build a working python 2.5 version of pyinotify with Debian? | 12:18 |
| Amaranth | RAOF: file a bug | 12:18 |
| RAOF | Amaranth: Where :) | 12:18 |
| RAOF | Amaranth: Never done the Debian thing before! | 12:18 |
| Amaranth | RAOF: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting | 12:19 |
| RAOF | I suppose I *could* go to the debian site, rather than ask google for "debian bugzilla". :/ | 12:19 |
| StevenK | Debian doesn't use bugzilla, thank $DEITY. | 12:20 |
| Amaranth | debian has a hand-rolled email-based bug tracker | 12:20 |
| StevenK | >>> import pyinotify | 12:20 |
| StevenK | >>> | 12:20 |
| StevenK | RAOF: ^ | 12:20 |
| Amaranth | StevenK: that makes it works | 12:20 |
| Amaranth | err, means | 12:20 |
| RAOF | Indeed. | 12:20 |
| geser | Amaranth: changing the maintainer is only necessary if the version contains ubuntu, rebuild gets usually XbuildY | 12:21 |
| StevenK | You don't say. | 12:21 |
| RAOF | Now, for completeness. python2.4 >>>import pyinotify | 12:21 |
| StevenK | ImportError: No module named threading | 12:21 |
| Amaranth | ouch | 12:21 |
| RAOF | Isn't that in the python stdlib? | 12:21 |
| Amaranth | that's stdlib | 12:21 |
| Amaranth | sys.path is getting trashed? | 12:22 |
| StevenK | Only python2.4-minimal was installed. | 12:22 |
| StevenK | Now it's fine. | 12:23 |
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| Lutin | siretart: have you tried the script that updates the maintainer field ? | 12:24 |
| StevenK | RAOF: Uploaded. | 12:24 |
| RAOF | Huzzah! Thanks muchly. | 12:25 |
| geser | Lutin: have you already updated your script to use XSBC-O-M? | 12:26 |
| Lutin | geser: yep | 12:26 |
| geser | Lutin: thanks for the url, you missed the change of the mail address for main. it's now ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com | 12:32 |
| Lutin | heh, wasn't aware of that. thanks a lot | 12:32 |
| Lutin | geser: ok, updated. thanks | 12:33 |
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| geser | Lutin: I'd say IGNORE_MAINTAINER can also be removed as these addresses wouldn't pass the check in dpkg-source | 12:36 |
| Lutin | geser: what does this check actually checks ? | 12:37 |
| Lutin | the email for main or motu ? | 12:37 |
| geser | if ($fi{'C Maintainer'} !~ /ubuntu/) { | 12:38 |
| Lutin | ok | 12:39 |
| geser | it simply checks if the Maintainer value contains ubuntu | 12:39 |
| Lutin | ok, so the domains in canonical should also be replaced | 12:39 |
| geser | yes | 12:39 |
| Lutin | ok, done | 12:40 |
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| geser | does every update of a native package need an UVF exception? | 12:54 |
| asimon | I have another question regarding the new maitainer field policy and new packages for REVU. Should the address in debian/changelog also be set to the MOTU address? Otherwise lintian thinks the package is a NMU and gives warnings. | 12:55 |
| imbrandon | asimon, no | 12:55 |
| imbrandon | and nmu wanrnings are fine in ubuntu | 12:56 |
| asimon | imbrandon: Okay, thank you. | 12:56 |
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| Fujitsu | geser, I don't think there's a policy on that. I've seen a few native uploads post-UVF, so I think it's fine. | 12:56 |
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| andreseso | hello, do you know if there is a repo for ubuntu edgy with subversion 1.4 ? | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | andreseso: try #ubuntu | 01:17 |
| === Hobbsee test | ||
| andreseso | no luck there at this time | 01:18 |
| asimon | Hobbsee: Thank you for reviewing kde-style-qtcurve. I uploaded a new version. | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee | asimon: yay :) | 01:19 |
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| imbrandon | ho hum | 02:27 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: hey ;) | 02:33 |
| imbrandon | heya Tonio_ | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: just bought a macbook pro fyi | 02:33 |
| imbrandon | fskin NICE | 02:33 |
| imbrandon | bout time bro LOL | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | as good a the ibm, but half the price in france.... | 02:33 |
| imbrandon | dual booting ? | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | the ibm machine is 4400 fyi..... 1700$ in the us.... | 02:33 |
| imbrandon | better than the IBM :) | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | can you imagin that price difference in europe ? | 02:34 |
| imbrandon | wow | 02:34 |
| Tonio_ | that's unbelievable | 02:34 |
| imbrandon | i love my mac, infact the next new notebook i get to replace this one will be another mac | 02:34 |
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| Tonio_ | imbrandon: well I know that the mac support is not as good as ibm (acpi etc...) | 02:35 |
| Tonio_ | but as lots of linux devs are using macs, that's getting better | 02:36 |
| Tonio_ | so I'm not that affraid | 02:36 |
| imbrandon | yea | 02:36 |
| imbrandon | i have had no problems with mine and support | 02:36 |
| imbrandon | even wireless works | 02:36 |
| imbrandon | :) | 02:36 |
| imbrandon | the only thing i cant get working on my old ibook in linux is the built in microphone | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | but i never use that anyhow | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | and i bet if i messed with it or proded crimsun enough i could get it working | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | everything else works flawless OOTB | 02:37 |
| imbrandon | well since dapper, breezy had soem issues with the touchpad etc :) | 02:38 |
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| imbrandon | hum how can i pin the kernel ver? | 02:41 |
| imbrandon | anyone wanna give me a fast rundown? | 02:42 |
| gnomefreak | imbrandon: theres a wiki on it but last i tried it didnt work for me. i might have done something wrong though | 02:43 |
| gnomefreak | !pinning | imbrandon | 02:44 |
| ubotu | imbrandon: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto | 02:44 |
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| imbrandon | thanks | 02:46 |
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| coNP | do you think gnome-app-install will be fixed to install recommended packages by feisty -- bug #75026 ? | 02:49 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 75026 in gnome-app-install "gnome-app-install needs to install recommends" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75026 | 02:49 |
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| imbrandon | ok bash freaks why isnt ....... elif [ $OS_TYPE -eq "Ubuntu" ] working ( $OS_TYPE == Ubuntu via lsb_release ) | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | has me stumped | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | something about intger expression expected | 03:08 |
| imbrandon | s/-eq/=/g maybe ? | 03:08 |
| Lathiat | -eq = integer | 03:09 |
| Lathiat | man test | 03:09 |
| imbrandon | um ok ... so , == ? | 03:09 |
| Lathiat | you'll want quites on the "$OS_TYPE" = "Ubuntu via lsb_release" | 03:09 |
| Lathiat | its single = not double == | 03:09 |
| imbrandon | right got it, thanks | 03:10 |
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| tsmithe | am i supposed to use "XSBC-Original-Maintainer" ? | 03:44 |
| Adri2000 | tsmithe: yes | 03:45 |
| tsmithe | cool | 03:45 |
| === tsmithe uploads | ||
| Adri2000 | Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com> and XSBC-Original-Maintainer: you | 03:46 |
| tsmithe | yes | 03:46 |
| tsmithe | :) | 03:46 |
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| shawarma | What does XSBC stand for anyway? | 04:18 |
| _ion | Excess bullcrap | 04:18 |
| shawarma | Just as I thought. :-) | 04:19 |
| geser | shawarma: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s5.7 | 04:32 |
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| shawarma | geser: Oh. Clever. | 04:40 |
| shawarma | geser: thanks. | 04:40 |
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| muzzol | hi | 04:43 |
| muzzol | i get lot of "no utmp entry available and LOGNAME not defined" errors | 04:43 |
| muzzol | seems that are not critical but is very annoing | 04:43 |
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| muzzol | i am missing something? | 04:44 |
| lionel | muzzol: just ignore them. This warnings are normal | 04:45 |
| muzzol | ok | 04:45 |
| muzzol | but can i get rid of? | 04:45 |
| shawarma | muzzol: It's in pbuilder, right? | 04:46 |
| muzzol | yes | 04:47 |
| shawarma | muzzol: Well... You *could* set LOGNAME to root or something, but that wouldn't be very nice, I think. | 04:47 |
| === tsmithe is having trouble with manpages | ||
| muzzol | what is that variable for? | 04:47 |
| shawarma | it holds your username. | 04:48 |
| muzzol | i see | 04:48 |
| tsmithe | "wired.1x: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/dh_installman line 120.". i have debian/manpages containing one line "wired.1x", and the wired.1x file is in debian/ | 04:48 |
| _ion | tsmithe: Try debian/wired.1x | 04:49 |
| tsmithe | aha | 04:49 |
| tsmithe | also, my package installs a default set of plugins to /usr/lib, and lintian gives me "E: wired: no-shlibs-control-file" and "E: wired: postinst-must-call-ldconfig", but they're not really libraries in the traditional sense | 04:52 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:55 |
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| lionel | hi bddebian | 04:58 |
| bddebian | Hi lionel | 04:58 |
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| tsmithe | ah bddebian, you reviewed wired! i have a question | 05:02 |
| tsmithe | it installs a default set of plugins to /usr/lib, and lintian gives me "E: wired: no-shlibs-control-file" and "E: wired: postinst-must-call-ldconfig", but they're not really libraries in the traditional sense | 05:02 |
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| bddebian | tsmithe: Then why aren't they in /usr/lib/wired/foo ? | 05:06 |
| tsmithe | hmm | 05:06 |
| tsmithe | good point | 05:06 |
| === tsmithe fixes | ||
| tsmithe | urgh that's annoying. some are and some aren't | 05:08 |
| bddebian | Fun huh? :) | 05:10 |
| tsmithe | *sigh* | 05:10 |
| tsmithe | :P | 05:10 |
| === tsmithe gets out dpatch | ||
| tsmithe | would you hate me if they went into /usr/lib/wired/wired? | 05:11 |
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| === tsmithe thinks not | ||
| tsmithe | yipee for the easy way out | 05:16 |
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| bddebian | Laser_away: If you happen to come around, you use gpib right? | 06:18 |
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| tsmithe | could i ask for a couple of reviews? | 07:00 |
| tsmithe | aka is anyone free? | 07:00 |
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| tsmithe | anyone want to review some ubuntustudio packages? | 08:08 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 08:34 |
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| === tsmithe will hug anybody who will give him a review (that hug is worth a lot) | ||
| tsmithe | also, could someone archive a few uploads for me? | 08:58 |
| tsmithe | (to revu) | 08:58 |
| tsmithe | sonata (in ubuntu now; old package), libresample (obsolete), libfooid (same) | 08:59 |
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| geser | tsmithe: done the archiving | 09:05 |
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| geser | tsmithe: looking at wired: is there a reason why you build-depend on portaudio19-dev and call configure with --disable-portaudio? | 09:09 |
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| Q-FUNK | http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/cups-pdf/news/20070214T164703Z.html | 09:11 |
| Q-FUNK | any time to get this into Feisty? | 09:12 |
| Q-FUNK | it's in unstable already | 09:12 |
| Q-FUNK | just needs a sync | 09:12 |
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| geser | file a sync request | 09:12 |
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| siretart | Lutin: I think I did have a look at it, but in the specific case I wanted to use it, it didn't do what I wanted | 09:50 |
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| shawarma | Any idea what an underscore before the keyname in a .desktop file means? | 09:58 |
| shawarma | Ah... Never mind. | 09:59 |
| tsmithe | geser, yes | 10:01 |
| tsmithe | --disable-portaudio disables static building of the bundled library | 10:01 |
| shawarma | siretart: Have you got time to fix a tiny thing in revu? | 10:01 |
| shawarma | siretart: when showing the debdiff between two versions, could you please set the mimetype to text/plain ? | 10:02 |
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| ptitdav69 | hi here, for a package on REVU (gnono), I need to have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField for an error with the maintainer field | 10:14 |
| ptitdav69 | can you confirm that I need to put thjs in debian/control : | 10:14 |
| ptitdav69 | Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com> | 10:15 |
| ptitdav69 | XSBC-Original-Maintainer: David Valot <ptitdav69@gmail.com> | 10:15 |
| ptitdav69 | ? | 10:15 |
| imbrandon | yes | 10:15 |
| ptitdav69 | thanks imbrandon | 10:15 |
| imbrandon | if you are making ubuntu only changes | 10:15 |
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| ptitdav69 | it's a new package for ubuntu | 10:16 |
| imbrandon | is it in debian ? | 10:17 |
| ptitdav69 | nope | 10:17 |
| imbrandon | k then thats correct iirc | 10:17 |
| ptitdav69 | ok, thanks :) | 10:18 |
| ajmitch | which means that anyone building packages on ubuntu, whether they mean for them to be in ubuntu or not, have to set something ubuntuish in the Maintainer: field | 10:22 |
| tsmithe | so when my tsmithe@ubuntu.com address is set up, it's ok to use that not ubuntu-motu@l.u.c ? | 10:23 |
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| tsmithe | hi bddebian | 10:25 |
| imbrandon | tsmithe, if it is "your" package i guess | 10:25 |
| tsmithe | cool | 10:25 |
| imbrandon | but as ajmitch said in this case it sucks | 10:25 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 10:25 |
| imbrandon | heya bddebian | 10:25 |
| bddebian | Hi tsmithe, imbrandon | 10:25 |
| imbrandon | man i got to go home early from work today, but it sucks | 10:26 |
| tsmithe | it sucks? | 10:26 |
| imbrandon | i broke my hand/fingers | 10:26 |
| === tsmithe hugs imbrandon | ||
| tsmithe | how? | 10:26 |
| imbrandon | and had to goto the ER | 10:26 |
| tsmithe | :S | 10:26 |
| imbrandon | now i have 2 fingers in a cast, kinda hard to type | 10:26 |
| tsmithe | poor guy | 10:26 |
| imbrandon | heh | 10:26 |
| imbrandon | i was racking a server and got my hand caught in a metal rack fan | 10:27 |
| tsmithe | urgh | 10:27 |
| imbrandon | was not cool | 10:27 |
| tsmithe | nasty | 10:27 |
| tsmithe | very nasty | 10:27 |
| jdong | ow | 10:27 |
| imbrandon | got me all pumped up on vicodin though heh | 10:27 |
| imbrandon | and demoral ( sp ) | 10:27 |
| jdong | heh vicodin never worked for me | 10:27 |
| jdong | at least not during the peak of my arthritis | 10:28 |
| imbrandon | it does when you take 2 500mil tabs ever 2 hours | 10:28 |
| jdong | Hmm I was on 12.5/1000 every 4hrs | 10:28 |
| jdong | and it didn't really do anything but make me loopy | 10:29 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: that was a bit silly, wasn't it? | 10:29 |
| jdong | how do you get KVM working?? | 10:30 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, a bit | 10:30 |
| jdong | obvious it isn't (1) install kvm (2) run kvm | 10:30 |
| tsmithe | jdong, make && make install | 10:30 |
| imbrandon | jdong, start it | 10:30 |
| jdong | /dev/kvm didn't exist | 10:30 |
| tsmithe | mknod ? | 10:30 |
| jdong | jdong@severance:~/tmp$ kvm -cdrom puppy-2.14-seamonkey-fulldrivers.iso | 10:30 |
| jdong | open /dev/kvm: No such file or directory | 10:30 |
| jdong | Could not initialize KVM, will disable KVM support | 10:30 |
| tsmithe | modprobe kvm major=1 | 10:30 |
| jdong | oh | 10:30 |
| tsmithe | ? | 10:30 |
| imbrandon | modprobe kvm | 10:30 |
| === tsmithe isn't sure - that's a switch for kqemu so it might still apply | ||
| === ajmitch wouldn't mind having a box recent enough for kvm | ||
| === tsmithe neither | ||
| jdong | it probed in | 10:31 |
| jdong | but didn't make /dev/kvm | 10:31 |
| tsmithe | hmm | 10:31 |
| imbrandon | kvm isnt any better than quemu imho | 10:31 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: it's supposed to be faster than straight unaccelerated qemu | 10:31 |
| jdong | OH kvm-intel | 10:32 |
| shawarma | Has anyone compared kvm and kqemu? How do they compare? | 10:32 |
| tsmithe | jdong, "Are you sure the kvm_intel & kvm modules are loaded? | 10:32 |
| tsmithe | Maybe you're bios does not support virtualization. | 10:32 |
| tsmithe | Please check your dmesg." | 10:32 |
| imbrandon | yea it is, but not faster than kqemu , and more hassle ( just imho , i have no numbers to back it up ) | 10:32 |
| tsmithe | http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/12/28/100 | 10:32 |
| tsmithe | imbrandon, well, now that kqemu is open, they should just merge (along with [defunct] qvm86) | 10:32 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: which reminds me, we still have the old non-GPL kqemu in multiverse | 10:32 |
| jdong | tsmithe: got it | 10:33 |
| tsmithe | :) | 10:33 |
| imbrandon | the only advantage that i see is kvm is floss and kqemu is closed source | 10:33 |
| tsmithe | imbrandon, not any more | 10:33 |
| jdong | didn't kqemu open? | 10:33 |
| tsmithe | yeah | 10:33 |
| ajmitch | yes, it did | 10:33 |
| tsmithe | you can get the sources and specs on the qemu site | 10:33 |
| imbrandon | ahh nice i dident know that | 10:33 |
| ajmitch | just a couple of weeks ago | 10:33 |
| tsmithe | probably cos of vbox competition | 10:33 |
| ajmitch | was uploaded to debian a few hours later | 10:33 |
| imbrandon | been a while since i last used it | 10:33 |
| jdong | yeah it's not terribly fast | 10:33 |
| jdong | it's slower than vmware for sure | 10:34 |
| tsmithe | could it be autobuilt for the kernel? i mean, module-assistant is such a chore | 10:34 |
| tsmithe | jdong, tried virtualbox? | 10:34 |
| === tsmithe finds that quicker than both | ||
| jdong | tsmithe: no, not yet | 10:34 |
| ajmitch | tsmithe: unlikely | 10:34 |
| tsmithe | ajmitch, mrgh | 10:34 |
| jdong | tsmithe: no way | 10:34 |
| jdong | tsmithe: I don't believe that | 10:34 |
| tsmithe | i do | 10:34 |
| ajmitch | there's no mechanism to force rebuilding of other packages on a kernel upload | 10:34 |
| tsmithe | plus, virtualbox doesn't have clock problems, which vmware does on this pentium-m | 10:34 |
| jdong | vmware is probably still the fastest | 10:34 |
| imbrandon | sure it could, like nvidia-glx and vmwareplayer modules etc | 10:34 |
| tsmithe | yeah... that's what i was thinking | 10:35 |
| jdong | heck xen doesn't beat vmware by much | 10:35 |
| tsmithe | doesn't apt support that kind of event hook? | 10:35 |
| ajmitch | tsmithe: no | 10:35 |
| tsmithe | oh ok | 10:35 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 10:35 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: they are rebuilt by forcing new packages in | 10:35 |
| tsmithe | that's sad | 10:35 |
| ajmitch | like l-r-m | 10:35 |
| ajmitch | so you'd need to do the same for universe/multiverse | 10:35 |
| imbrandon | thats terrible | 10:36 |
| tsmithe | very | 10:36 |
| imbrandon | benc must hate life at times | 10:36 |
| tsmithe | apt needs hooks! | 10:36 |
| jdong | http://www.linux-gamers.net/smartsection.item.56/virtualbox-vs-qemu.html | 10:36 |
| ajmitch | tsmithe: it's *not* an apt thing | 10:36 |
| jdong | there does seem to be some evidence that virtualbox is faster | 10:36 |
| tsmithe | dpkg needs hooks! | 10:36 |
| === ajmitch sighs | ||
| imbrandon | it would be a soyuz thing | 10:36 |
| tsmithe | vbox seems very much snappier | 10:36 |
| ajmitch | as imbrandon said | 10:36 |
| imbrandon | or dac | 10:36 |
| imbrandon | or falcon | 10:36 |
| imbrandon | or what ever is used to make the repo | 10:36 |
| ajmitch | soyuz would have to handle it | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | right for the official repo | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | falcon for mine | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | ( that i need to update ) | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | and dac ( is that the rtight name ) for debian | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | man this cast is gonna get on my nervs | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | i cant tab complete correctly anymore | 10:38 |
| imbrandon | ( its on my pinky and ring finger of my left hand ) | 10:38 |
| imbrandon | kinda strange | 10:38 |
| tsmithe | move your hand? | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | yea , but its not the same | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 10:39 |
| lifeless | 'dak' | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | sides the tab key is way weay over on a apple keyboard | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | ahh thanks lifeless | 10:39 |
| ajmitch | then don't stick your fingers where they shouldn't be | 10:40 |
| imbrandon | btw heya long time no talk/type | 10:40 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch, i've heard that somewhere before :) | 10:40 |
| imbrandon | lifeless must have a hilight on soyuz ;) | 10:40 |
| lifeless | a:) | 10:41 |
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| Simon80 | hey, bddebian, what of logitech-applet? am I supposed to be able to see it in feisty's repos? | 10:43 |
| imbrandon | hrm does blue-utilz make any menu entries? or how do you admin your bluetooth devices in gnome ?> | 10:44 |
| Simon80 | imbrandon, what kind of device? | 10:44 |
| tsmithe | gnome-bluetooth ? | 10:44 |
| imbrandon | a usb bluetooth dongle | 10:44 |
| imbrandon | Simon80, ^^ | 10:44 |
| shawarma | imbrandon: What would you like to do to your bluetooth devices? | 10:44 |
| === tsmithe thinks gnome-bluetooth is poor, but then, i haven't written any patches to help improve, so i can't talk | ||
| Simon80 | ah, plug it in | 10:44 |
| imbrandon | well its pluged in silly | 10:44 |
| Simon80 | there's a bluetooth wiki page that I cleaned up that implies that mice and other hci devs need to be added from the CLI | 10:45 |
| Simon80 | but for obex file sharing, there's a gui | 10:45 |
| Simon80 | :( | 10:45 |
| tsmithe | imbrandon, bluetooth-applet ? | 10:45 |
| shawarma | imbrandon: ie. what do you mean "admin your bluetooth devices" ? | 10:45 |
| Simon80 | at least the page claims it's a one time add | 10:45 |
| tsmithe | should have an icon in the tray | 10:45 |
| imbrandon | well i want to use my cellphone as a dialup adapter ( that is suported in osx ) | 10:45 |
| tsmithe | ah you can... | 10:45 |
| tsmithe | /methinks | 10:45 |
| imbrandon | nope no tray icon | 10:45 |
| tsmithe | imbrandon, is bluetooth-applet running? | 10:45 |
| imbrandon | not that i can see | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | ps ax|grep bluetooth | 10:46 |
| Simon80 | what peripheral do you want to connect to the dongle? | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | err | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | Simon80, my cell phone | 10:46 |
| Simon80 | ah | 10:46 |
| Simon80 | for file trans? or connectivity? | 10:46 |
| tsmithe | look up ;) | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | both hopefully | 10:46 |
| Simon80 | I think gnome-bluetooth does the file transfer | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | brandon@hood:~$ ps ax|grep bluetooth | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | 31871 pts/1 R+ 0:00 grep bluetooth | 10:46 |
| tsmithe | run bluetooth-applet and see | 10:46 |
| imbrandon | guess its not running | 10:47 |
| Simon80 | though you can also manually use obex-ftp | 10:47 |
| Simon80 | sorry, no hyphen, obexftp | 10:47 |
| Simon80 | for file transfer | 10:47 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 10:47 |
| imbrandon | gnome-bluetooth wasent installed | 10:47 |
| Simon80 | bluetooth support needs a solid gui | 10:47 |
| imbrandon | i love the way kde handles it | 10:48 |
| Simon80 | get their gui then! | 10:48 |
| Simon80 | nothing stopping that | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | but my box with i wish to use bluetooth is gnome ;) | 10:48 |
| Simon80 | I mix kde apps freely | 10:48 |
| bddebian | Simon80: Did I upload it? | 10:48 |
| tsmithe | kde bluetooth support is much better | 10:48 |
| imbrandon | i like to keep my kde and gnome seperate | 10:48 |
| Simon80 | bddebian, doesn't look like it | 10:48 |
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| Simon80 | from my point of view | 10:48 |
| bddebian | Did I say I did? | 10:49 |
| tsmithe | also, could yous take look-sees at wired and enblend ? | 10:49 |
| Simon80 | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4341 | 10:49 |
| Simon80 | yes | 10:49 |
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| bddebian | Hmm, so I did. it's sitting in NEW: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4341 | 10:50 |
| bddebian | Gah, damnit | 10:50 |
| bddebian | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=logitech | 10:50 |
| Simon80 | lol, upped it to revu? | 10:51 |
| Simon80 | oh | 10:51 |
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| Simon80 | what does that mean? | 10:51 |
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| bddebian | Means it hasn't been processed by an archive admin | 10:51 |
| Simon80 | ah | 10:51 |
| Simon80 | well, thanks | 10:52 |
| bddebian | NP | 10:52 |
| Simon80 | it's not in any danger of missing a freeze, is it? | 10:52 |
| bddebian | Hard to say :-( | 10:52 |
| bddebian | Shouldn't be | 10:52 |
| bddebian | Unless it gets rejected by the archive admins | 10:53 |
| imbrandon | wow evolution on feisty is very stable *rolls eyes* | 10:53 |
| Simon80 | lol | 10:54 |
| Simon80 | I've never used it seriously | 10:54 |
| === tsmithe needs uploading for wired and enblend and alsa-firmware and alsa-tools!! | ||
| Simon80 | it makes me feel dirty to even consider it | 10:54 |
| tsmithe | evo is really nice! | 10:54 |
| Simon80 | I use gmail | 10:54 |
| tsmithe | Simon80, not when you get >200 emails per day | 10:54 |
| imbrandon | i like evolution esp evolution-exchange but this version is very unstable | 10:54 |
| tsmithe | weird - rock solid here | 10:55 |
| imbrandon | tsmithe, i use gmail for my personal mail and i get >1000 a day | 10:55 |
| Simon80 | tsmith, I agree, I dislike the sluggishness | 10:55 |
| tsmithe | imbrandon, you must have spent some time setting that up | 10:55 |
| Simon80 | but it depends, I do get quite a bit of mail | 10:55 |
| tsmithe | imbrandon, and i probably get nearer that figure | 10:55 |
| Simon80 | I get a lot of lists | 10:55 |
| imbrandon | tsmithe, yes i spend most of my time online in email and irc | 10:56 |
| tsmithe | bugmail should be destroyed. people just shouldn't be allowed to file bugs | 10:56 |
| Simon80 | I hate bugmail | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | hum this gnome-bluetooth all but sucks | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | there is no gui only an applet | 10:56 |
| imbrandon | no options , no nothing | 10:56 |
| === imbrandon grumbles | ||
| Simon80 | kde it up! | 10:57 |
| Simon80 | I'm all for mixing stuff, lol | 10:57 |
| tsmithe | imbrandon, see told ya | 10:57 |
| Simon80 | maybe I'll make my own desktop env and call it incoherence | 10:57 |
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| imbrandon | i hate mixing, i'll use one or the other | 10:57 |
| === tsmithe dislikes qt though. it's a terrible prejudice | ||
| Simon80 | I love mixing | 10:57 |
| imbrandon | i use kde 99.999% of the time, the one box i wanna use gnome on bites | 10:58 |
| Simon80 | and qt, why dislike it? it has better resize performance than gtk, I'd say | 10:58 |
| imbrandon | lol | 10:58 |
| crimsun | ah, to live the simple life of only one desktop env. | 10:58 |
| Simon80 | there is only one desktop env... it's called Incoherence | 10:58 |
| Simon80 | it's about 2 mins old, and in heavy conceptual development | 10:58 |
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| imbrandon | lol | 10:59 |
| === tsmithe hugs gnome and it's terrible bluetooth support | ||
| Simon80 | you can test drive it by conversing with me | 10:59 |
| Simon80 | apostrophe abuse! | 10:59 |
| Simon80 | I stick with gnome, but hate all its apps | 10:59 |
| imbrandon | lol | 11:00 |
| imbrandon | thats just silly | 11:00 |
| Simon80 | I use firefox for browsing, kopete for IM, and amarok for music | 11:00 |
| imbrandon | you dont get the intergration | 11:00 |
| Simon80 | I get the hotkeys, and I like gnome-terminal | 11:00 |
| Simon80 | and I absolutely need gnome's sysmon applet | 11:00 |
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| Simon80 | whatever its real name is ;) | 11:00 |
| Simon80 | System Monitor | 11:01 |
| Simon80 | for cpu + mem + net + swap in real time with no lag | 11:01 |
| Simon80 | I really could be doing better with this desktop though | 11:01 |
| Simon80 | I live in firefox and terms anyway though, so meh | 11:02 |
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| tsmithe | fer christ's sake! i plug in the charger and it tells me it's been unplugged! | 11:06 |
| crimsun | you're lucky. On some hardware, plugging in the adapter would cause the machine to power off. | 11:06 |
| tsmithe | haha | 11:07 |
| Simon80 | ow | 11:07 |
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| mr_pouit | I had 1996 hours remaining some times ago :] I didn't know the battery was so powerful ^^ | 11:08 |
| tsmithe | oh no | 11:08 |
| tsmithe | i've had 4008 | 11:08 |
| imbrandon | time for a nap, the doc's pain killers have finaly got the best of me | 11:08 |
| imbrandon | gnight all | 11:08 |
| tsmithe | get well soon! | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | night imbrandon :) | 11:10 |
| crimsun | tsmithe: wrt alsa-tools, please check Debian BTS for the ld10k1 fixes | 11:14 |
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| tsmithe | crimsun, ok | 11:14 |
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| === tsmithe hates tracking bugs over many places, and i have hardly any places | ||
| crimsun | but insanity is /fun/ | 11:15 |
| tsmithe | :S | 11:15 |
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| tsmithe | crimsun, what fixes do you refer to (it's been a while since i did anything with alsa-tools)? | 11:16 |
| zul | crimsun: yes....it...is fine.... | 11:16 |
| === tsmithe really really needs to get on top of this | ||
| === zul needs to eat brains. | ||
| crimsun | mmm chilled monkey brains | 11:16 |
| zul | brains....brains...BRAINS!!! | 11:16 |
| tsmithe | _ _ | 11:16 |
| crimsun | tsmithe: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=alsa-tools;dist=unstable | 11:17 |
| === tsmithe looks | ||
| tsmithe | crimsun, i must really be insane, cos i'm still uncertain as to which bug you are referring (/me feels like a right idiot now). do you mean the lintian error "E: ld10k1: shell-script-fails-syntax-check ./usr/share/ld10k1/init_live", and if so, debian 344777 ? | 11:23 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 344777 in ld10k1 "ld10k1: doesn't work well on startup to restore soundcard to a good state" [Wishlist,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/344777 | 11:23 |
| crimsun | tsmithe: I'm referring to merging any/all fixes for ld10k1 from Debian BTS | 11:24 |
| tsmithe | oh right :) | 11:24 |
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| Kano64 | hi, what to do to get ndiswrapper 1.37? | 11:46 |
| Kano64 | 1.30 does not work with usb wlan devices | 11:46 |
| Kano64 | -> system lock | 11:46 |
| zul | not a support channel dude | 11:47 |
| crimsun | main/restricted are in UVF/FF as of Feb 8th. | 11:47 |
| Kano64 | in what? | 11:48 |
| crimsun | upstream version freeze & feature freeze. | 11:48 |
| crimsun | aka, no newer versions, no new packages | 11:48 |
| Kano64 | then your system is unable | 11:48 |
| crimsun | propose an UVF exception request | 11:48 |
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| crimsun | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess | 11:49 |
| ferret_0567 | Why no Frozen Bubble 2 in universe? I had to add another repo to get that | 11:49 |
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| Kano64 | crimsun: whats the channel for kernel building support? | 11:50 |
| crimsun | Kano64: there is none. | 11:50 |
| ferret_0567 | Frozen Bubble is pretty popular | 11:50 |
| crimsun | Kano64: as you probably know, -kernel is solely for development | 11:50 |
| Kano64 | crimsun: well i made a kanotix target, but dont know how to build udebs | 11:51 |
| lionel | ferret_0567: frozen bubble 2.1 is in Universe (in Feisty) | 11:51 |
| lionel | a backport to Edgy has been asked | 11:51 |
| Kano64 | (i dislike ubuntu config) | 11:51 |
| ferret_0567 | Wow...can't even add the latest Frozen Bubble 2 to edgy... | 11:51 |
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| crimsun | ferret_0567: see what lionel just said. | 11:52 |
| ferret_0567 | It does take time though | 11:52 |
| crimsun | i.e., there's an edgy-backports request | 11:52 |
| ferret_0567 | I know, a backport has been asked for, it's just not here yet | 11:52 |
| crimsun | good christ, be patient then | 11:52 |
| lionel | ferret_0567: request has been rejected #86068 | 11:52 |
| crimsun | what do you think this is, a store? | 11:53 |
| Kano64 | ferret_0567: install pbuilder and use sid's source file | 11:53 |
| Kano64 | most easy way | 11:53 |
| ferret_0567 | I already have Frozen Bubble 2 | 11:53 |
| crimsun | then you need to request a backport for libsdl-pango-dev, too. | 11:54 |
| Kano64 | als long as it does not depend on sh scripts it is easy | 11:54 |
| crimsun | (src:sdlpango) | 11:55 |
| Kano64 | with a recursive pbuilder | 11:55 |
| lionel | crimsun: IIRC, backports for lib are not allowed | 11:55 |
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| crimsun | lionel: see libvisual-0.4-0 in dapper-backports. | 11:58 |
| crimsun | (required for amarok) | 11:59 |
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| lionel | crimsun: you're right | 12:01 |
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| hub | ok, I have a new problem with dpkg-source | 12:11 |
| hub | dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address | 12:11 |
| hub | debuild: fatal error at line 1228: | 12:11 |
| hub | I use MY email address. wtf? | 12:11 |
| RAOF | hub: It's the DebianMaintainer spec. | 12:12 |
| geser | hub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField | 12:12 |
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