=== dfarning [n=dfarning@207-118-205-175.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:57] gnomefreak: i'm on feisty if you need anything [12:58] 14:41 < gnomefreak> whos using feisty? [12:58] 14:41 < gnomefreak> whos using feisty? [12:58] since herd 3 on my laptop [12:58] i've got the latest as of today [12:59] only way to get the touchpad to work;( [12:59] or suspend [12:59] or bluetooth mouse [12:59] or ... [12:59] really? might want to document that with laptop team [01:00] I bought the laptop in Late December so the hardware is pretty new [01:01] ah yea, it'll take a while. When I buy a new laptop, I'm going to try to boot Ubuntu off the display model [01:01] Drivers likely did not exit when edgy went out the door [01:02] makes sense [01:02] whatch the sales guy freak out;) [01:02] dfarning: hehe, gotta know what I'm buying. Plus, I tend to hate sales people...mostly because I know more than they do [01:03] yeah best buy is the worst [01:04] oh tell me about it. I saw a kid working for their Geek Squad that was in the same programming class as me. [01:05] while I was working on the physics engine for my 2D shooter, he was looking up flash games [01:05] I had a guy tell me c was a dead language;) [01:06] no need to do backups anymore becuase new harddrive are so reliable;) [01:06] dfarning: i had a guy tell me FORTRAN was a dead language. [01:07] that's why i'm using it right now... [01:07] Be nice to fortran it was my first language [01:07] what are you using it for [01:08] in the late 80's it was all the rage in engineering circles [01:09] dfarning: protein folding prokect. [01:10] FORTRAN is awesome. someone had a problem compilying their code on their non-free machine so I told them to just apt-get install g77 and compile it. [01:11] funny and ironic [01:14] could you look at the -bugs ML [01:14] what is up? [01:15] what do I do with that, defer? [01:15] oh I see [01:16] oh you got a message about dealing with a mail message [01:17] the original bug report was too long [01:19] looks like some one sent the report to the mailing list rather then adding to lp [01:20] no it's on LP, john looked at it. [01:20] what happened was since they tried to comment teh whole report, ML caught it. [01:21] someone just did that too, IMO we should just defer them [01:21] ah lp forwarded the bug to the ml [01:21] yes agree defer [01:22] attachment don't get forwarded [01:22] but discriptions and comments do [01:33] Admiral_Chicago: sorry already taken care of :) [01:33] okay cool === dfarning off to starbucks to get some peace and quite [01:42] who wants to see something funny than crash :(. i have a bug you go to this link and it crashes but read what it says before it closes and tell me if you think its supposed to close afterwards. http://hereisyourpolicebrutality.ytmnd.com/ try on feisty and edgy if you got it [01:44] i wish mozilla would either have crashes or closing but not both :( [01:44] ill be back in morning [01:55] omg who ever wrote that is not a good programmer [01:57] no crash for me gnomefreak [01:57] no close? [01:58] nope [01:59] Version: 2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1 [01:59] flash9? [01:59] yes [01:59] Version: 9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1 [01:59] hmmmm it closes here [02:00] java? [02:00] not sure if I have it... [02:00] java -version [02:02] java version "1.4.2" [02:02] gij --version [02:02] gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 [02:02] so, that might be of use [02:05] that might be it :) [02:05] can you try with normal java installed see if you still get away with it. also do you have NoScript? [02:06] noscript is *not* installed on my system [02:06] which one is regular java? [02:09] Admiral_Chicago: sun-java6-plugin or sun-java5-plugin than change it in update-alternatives to use the sun-java one [02:10] im using sun-java6-plugin and it closes [02:10] Admiral_Chicago: do you see any type of file or anything else that might cause it on that site? [02:11] no, it's only javascript [02:11] i read the page source [02:13] that might be it than. i cant find the bug now :( [02:14] yea...i dunno what to do with that. blame the web page? [02:19] i would but im seeing alot of that tonight [02:21] ah, hmm, you recently changed the plugin? [02:21] no its not me [02:21] im testing others crashes [02:22] ah, i see [02:22] bbl [02:22] most were due to .wmv files and totem not being ablet o open them === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === dfarning [n=dfarning@207-118-205-175.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === dfarning [n=dfarning@207-118-205-175.dyn.centurytel.net] has left #ubuntu-mozillateam ["Ex-Chat"] === dfarning [n=dfarning@207-118-205-175.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [05:39] gnomefreak: hey [05:39] gnomefreak: i do both ff and tb releases, among other random things [05:40] (mozilla.org releases i mean) [05:40] :p [05:40] dude put your -afk here too [10:22] i can't find 2.0.0.2...I want to try it out. [10:22] maybe mozilla has an SVN or something [10:23] whatever, it's way too late for all this [10:33] gnomefreak: Can you try to write a short guide on Bug Fixing, the process needed sometime in the future? [10:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Develop [10:34] So people can jump in and submit patches that are useful and how to test them etc. [10:47] ... [10:47] Admiral_Chicago: its on the ftp === AlexLatchford just mailed the Accessibility people asking for instructions on how best to help them, also outlining what we are currently doing with the Tags === ..[topic/#ubuntu-mozillateam:AlexLatchford] : Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu Mozilla Team | Our page can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | [asac] repackaged firefox uploaded to feisty | Next meeting will be Feb. 19 2007 at 20:00UTC in #ubuntu-meeting. | The agenda for the meeting is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings. === ..[topic/#ubuntu-mozillateam:AlexLatchford] : Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu Mozilla Team | Our page can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | [asac] repackaged firefox uploaded to feisty | Next meeting will be Feb. 19 2007 at 21:30UTC in #ubuntu-meeting. | The agenda for the meeting is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings. [02:44] k i think im awake for a little while [02:44] AlexLatchford: what do you mean bug fixing? [02:45] well like patching etc, what needs to be done to pick up a patch froma bug report, and test it [02:45] i can try im no expert by any means [02:46] hmm okay [02:50] for testing patches it a simple command ( i have to ask asac for the command as it seems to be the one i didnt wring down. adding pactches to the build process is fairly easy though [02:53] anyone know anything about nss signtool? [03:23] Anyone object to me rejecting bug 14911 as it isn't a firefox bug, merely a flash bug and its been fixed in Flash 9 [03:23] Malone bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14911 [03:29] only issue i see with that is its still open upstream [03:45] should we ask the users to file upstream or should we be doing it for them? they know more about the bug than we do if we cant reproduce it. [03:58] poningru: you here? [04:01] gnomefreak: As far as I can see everyone who has switched to Flash 9 is now not experiencing any problems, thus I believe it was a flash bug [04:02] AlexLatchford: i agree im not sure what upstream is doing. i would have to say check with crimson he might know better what is going on [04:02] hmm okay [04:12] we could really use a mt-waitingforupstream tag i have been tagging and marking them as needsinfo but im not sure if that is fitting [04:30] hmm [04:31] think we need to get this page changed [04:31] https://launchpad.net/thunderbird/ [04:31] set the Bug Contact as Mozilla Bugs [04:36] AlexLatchford: set it for agenda for the meeting me or david will work on it [04:37] okay [04:56] AlexLatchford: care to look at bug 58008 im not real sure what to do. there is no upstream bug to that affect but there is 1 upstream bug on training.dat file in tb [04:56] Malone bug 58008 in mozilla-thunderbird "mozilla-thunderbird freezes after downloading mail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58008 [04:56] okay [04:56] https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunderbird/+bug/48401 [04:56] Malone bug 48401 in thunderbird "dapper thunderbird opens new folder view on ^M" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [04:57] this bug is confusing me, [04:57] k [04:57] ^M means Ctrl+M right? [04:58] yep i would reject it as not enough info to continue [04:58] there was no upstream bug defined so i rejected the upstream [04:59] both [04:59] hmm, well Ctrl+M Minimizes the text to fit the window. [04:59] fixed [05:00] hes stating ^M opens mail [05:00] the ubuntu task was rejected and neither of the upstream tasks defined bugs [05:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/thunderbird/+bugs [05:00] meh oh well [05:00] which package are these bugs relating too? [05:01] i wouls say thunderbird for the most part [05:02] well yeah, but there isn't a thunderbird package [05:02] its mozilla-thunderbird [05:02] we really need to sort out this naming soon [05:02] correct but upstream is thunderbird not mozilla-thunderboird [05:03] I dont see why we dont change it to be thunderbird then [05:03] or are we? [05:03] AlexLatchford: the naming for mozilla-thunderbird is fine just we have firefox and mozilla-firefox that i think we can condence [05:03] AlexLatchford: i believe thunderbird and firefox should be final names [05:04] final names? [05:04] AlexLatchford: drop mozilla from the names [05:04] and ubuntu would just have firefox and thunderbird [05:04] hmm okay [05:04] mozilla-* is a transitional package [05:04] so why are we renaming firefox back to mozilla-firefox then? [05:04] i wouldnt [05:05] poningru: wants to [05:05] right okay [05:06] he had one on there for thunderbird too but i removed it since there is no thunderbird package only a mozilla-thunderbird. but in the meeting i will bring up what i feel should be dine with both packages [05:07] hmm okay [05:08] just think we need to sort out the naming throughout of thunderbird, firefox, flash plugins because its complicated as to exactly which is being maintained and which people should be using [05:09] i agree [05:13] poningru: dont panic i removed the 2 agenda points you added adn condenced them into one [05:13] hostal takeover of mark? [05:13] lol [05:17] lol yes of course === gnomefreak wonders if its possible to do our own bugs :( === gnomefreak off for a bit [06:36] I do? [06:36] I wanna rename it? === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === dfarning [n=dfarning@s3-165.rb2.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [08:33] hello :-P [08:34] anyone has feisty installed and can test bug 85174 [08:34] Malone bug 85174 in firefox "[apport] firefox-bin crashed with wmv in html page (dup-of: 85198)" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85174 [08:34] Malone bug 85198 in firefox "[Feisty] FireFox crashes on trying to open http://www.wretch.cc/blog/cinphy" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85198 [08:34] looks like totem requires some symbol that is not exported by firefox. [08:34] asac: i can try [08:35] if its really a bug, than it should be 100% reproducible ... if you have mozilla-totem installed [08:35] Admiral_Chicago: great. [08:35] i don't have that installed, i used mplayer-plugin [08:36] would you mind to use it for a minute :) ? [08:36] so it works in mplayer-plugin. I'll install totem now [08:36] err take that back, i use VLC [08:37] if we can reproduce, then we can nail down :) .... guess most crashes with totem should be due to this problem [08:37] does totem (plugin) ship in main or universe? [08:39] main [08:43] btw. I got this at apt-cache show firefox [08:43] Bugs: mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com [08:44] hmmm ... maybe not so bad :) ... users should first try to argue on ml if this is a bug at all :) ... but I guess if they look at apt-cache show they already know what they are doing. [08:46] From: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion "The Totem video plugin doesn't seem to work with Firefox 2.x. You may want to install package mozilla-mplayer instead before you start." [08:48] yup, that page made Fx crash [08:48] output on console? [08:49] didn't open from konsole but I have my dbg files, let me run teh command [08:50] just want to know if its really the missing symbol [08:50] ah i see what I did wrong.. [08:50] poningru: already renamed to for both ther eis a wishlist bug on it so i just listed the bug [08:52] hmm, okay uploading the log [08:54] asac: is that correct? [08:55] teh info I added for Bug #~ [08:55] teh info I added for Bug #85174 [08:55] Malone bug 85174 in firefox "[apport] firefox-bin crashed with wmv in html page (dup-of: 85198)" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85174 [08:55] Malone bug 85198 in firefox "[Feisty] FireFox crashes on trying to open http://www.wretch.cc/blog/cinphy" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85198 === asac looking [08:55] Admiral_Chicago: you didn't run firefox :) ... you have to type [08:55] (gdb) run [08:56] in order to startup in debugger [08:56] the debugging output is slim i even tried the "bug way" but cant gen a backtrace i think its because ther eis no crash its just closing [08:57] so in the konsole, I type "firefox (gdb) run" [08:57] as you may have guessed, I never had to do this [08:57] no ... you started firefox like: firefox -g [08:57] right? [08:57] Admiral_Chicago: actually it would be enough to just start firefox in console and see what happens [08:57] cant with gdb firefox command but without gdb you can use the -g [08:58] on console if it crashes [08:58] ok ... in order to run firefox in debugger: [08:58] firefox -g [08:58] ... [08:58] (gdb) run [08:58] ... (CRASHES) [08:58] (gdb) bt full [08:58] for the basic output [08:58] the instruction on wiki is wrong [08:59] i'll update them, i followed teh wiki [08:59] good... something like [08:59] firefox -g 2>&1 | tee ~/Desktop/gdb-firefox.log [08:59] ... [08:59] (gdb) run [08:59] ... [08:59] (gdb) bt full [09:00] should be enough for the cases where no normal crash report can be generated [09:01] trying again [09:01] playing video now... [09:02] no crash [09:02] no crash because of debugger? [09:02] what happens without debugger? [09:02] e.g. just firefox [09:02] in console [09:03] err wait, it just crashed after I navigated a few pages away [09:03] (gdb) bt full [09:03] No stack. [09:03] (gdb) [09:03] gnomefreak: what are you trying to do? [09:04] re running backtrace on the (gdb) bt full [09:04] No stack. [09:04] (gdb) [09:04] you have a crash or something? [09:04] oops [09:04] im the one that gave the gdb output on those bugs :) im tryint to rerun it with bt full [09:05] and it wont same error if i type backtrace as the bug-squad page says [09:05] i got the output from the konsole with dbg runnig [09:05] i ran firefox -dbg [09:05] /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/totem/libtotem-gmp-plugin.so: undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit is all i get other than a error code [09:05] asac, do you have a couple of common strings that we can input into bughelper to find thes totem bugs [09:06] dfarning: the above might be a good start but i dont know if you will always get that or not [09:06] not ... i just assume that most run into this problem (e.g. missing symbol) ... the potential duplicates had no output from console attached iirc [09:07] uploaded the file now. let me know if it is correct [09:07] gnomefreak: ok ... so there is indeed a bug. maybe you can try if the same happens on pages of other totem reports as well? [09:07] i did i think i marked 3 as dupes === dfarning checking dups form common strings [09:08] i was working on this yesterday [09:08] dfarning: we should really look if other bugs really end because of undefined symbol [09:08] looks like the crash is after I navigate away from the page...totem can't handle being stopped... [09:08] Admiral_Chicago: interesting [09:08] but video could be played? === dfarning will check back in few hours when the run is complete [09:09] ok [09:09] asac: it played all the way through, I waited after it stopped (~20 seconds) then navigated away [09:09] gnomefreak: what combination of totem-mozilla and firefox package have you installed ? how do you get that output [09:09] totem-xine fx 2.0.0.1+1-0ubuntu1 i think [09:10] what versio has totem-mozilla? [09:10] i think it has alot to do with wmv files. only thing that can play them is w32codecs iirc [09:11] 2.17.91-0ubun [09:11] 2.17.91-0ubuntu2 [09:11] what page does the crash occur? [09:12] http://www.wretch.cc/blog/cinphy is one of them [09:12] i was able to confirm the bugs is why i got into testing them [09:12] i don't see a video on it?? [09:13] nope i dont see it long enough [09:13] interesting [09:13] there is a .wmv file i heard [09:13] maybe i miss the codec and it doesn't even happen [09:13] http://pic5.pic.wretch.cc//photos/icon/site_music/default/90.wma [09:13] does this crash for you alone? [09:13] Admiral_Chicago: for you? [09:14] nope access denied [09:14] hmmm for me too [09:14] im clicking on the inside link [09:14] let me check. [09:14] http://boa4.wretch.cc:86//photos/icon/site_music/default/90.wma [09:15] its taking its time loading [09:15] k [09:15] acess denied on the first one [09:15] from what page did you get that url? [09:15] gnomefreak: ^^ [09:15] from the page you gave us [09:16] http://pic5.pic.wretch.cc//photos/icon/site_music/default/90.wma [09:16] so that one crashes for you? [09:16] i see chinese fonts (maybe japenese) and the url stuck in there [09:16] for me it takes ages apparently [09:16] its not done loading [09:17] ah ha [09:17] how long does it take to crash for you on front page? [09:17] The server at boa4.wretch.cc is taking too long to respond. [09:17] the page you gave me didnt crash [09:18] insode the fonts above it said in english access denied [09:18] inside [09:18] What the bug number you are working on [09:18] 58174 and its dupes. they are from yesterday [09:18] bug 85174 [09:18] remember i was asking for testers [09:18] Malone bug 85174 in firefox "[apport] firefox-bin crashed with wmv in html page (dup-of: 85198)" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85174 [09:18] Malone bug 85198 in firefox "[Feisty] FireFox crashes on trying to open http://www.wretch.cc/blog/cinphy" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85198 [09:19] so ... what page crashes for you like this? [09:19] ty [09:19] both pages timed out on me [09:19] i crash on the same pages as the users do [09:20] bbiab [09:21] http://multimedia.repubblica.it/home/557820 [09:21] ? [09:21] im thinking totem is causing the crash personally totem>crash firefox goes down [09:21] yes crash [09:22] k ... trying [09:22] ** (totem-plugin-viewer:21483): WARNING **: Mimetype 'video/x-ms-asf' doesn't have a handler [09:22] Compiler did not align stack variables. Libavcodec has been miscompiled [09:22] and may be very slow or crash. This is not a bug in libavcodec, [09:22] but in the compiler. Do not report crashes to FFmpeg developers. [09:22] there were about 4 links i got to crash on yesterday all seemed to be media releated [09:22] did you notice this in freddys -gdb [09:22] dfarning: yes i saw that .... looks a bit scary [09:22] however Admiral_Chicago did not get symbol problem [09:22] i didnt see that but that looks not so good [09:23] < gnomefreak> /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: [09:23] /usr/lib/totem/libtotem-gmp-plugin.so: undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit [09:23] thats what i get on all of them [09:23] dfarning: where did you get that warning? [09:23] gnomefreak: yeah ... but never trust the output at compile time [09:23] true [09:23] might as well be really outdated or something [09:23] gnomefreak: i try to reproduce [09:23] that last attacment on the bug [09:23] i get that too ... great! [09:23] :) [09:23] :) [09:24] im glad your happy [09:24] its like yay i crashed [09:24] haha, lolz [09:25] Look like we can hit up the FFmpeg site for info on this bug [09:25] if they stick in a disclaimer they must a seen it several times [09:26] gnomefreak: ... there is a help page on firefox for ubuntu ... they claim that upstream firefox would work ... can you confirm that? [09:27] doesn't matter ... will have to take a look now :) [09:28] where are you finding this string? so: undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit [09:28] on the console [09:28] so it is not anywhere in the default crash report? [09:29] AlexLatchford: confirmed that 3.0 didnt close [09:29] is this a problem in edgy too? [09:29] i am down to onlu ubuntus version due to testing [09:29] gnomefreak: ok [09:29] he was running edgy [09:29] yeah ... but he didn't see that messag? [09:29] AlexLatchford: didnt get close on any that i did [09:29] undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit ? [09:30] that means it doesnt happen upstream? [09:30] have no idea ... thats what is told on the ubuntu help page; but I found it hard to read, so maybe i missed the point [09:30] if i find a way where i can set fx to run both upstream or ubuntus without re symlinking than i will run both [09:31] http://developer.mozilla.org/xpcom/api/NS_CStringContainerInit info on the call [09:31] hmm [09:32] dfarning: in edgy it does not crash [09:32] that is also a wishlist bug i ran into [09:32] anyone has still the previous feisty firefox packages in his cache [09:32] and can downgrade [09:33] not that this symbol thing is just a new issue that is introduced by my latest upload [09:33] let me find it but hes pretty much stating to change xpcom to something [09:33] ah [09:34] i have totem-gstreamer installed here on edgy [09:34] lets see [09:35] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/62802 guys [09:35] Malone bug 62802 in firefox "missing static libraries" [Medium,Needs info] [09:36] is it possible if we do that it may not crash? [09:36] don't think so [09:36] its about exporting oly stable api elements [09:36] k [09:37] but have to think about this [09:37] can you please assign to me such bugs? [09:37] i was going to but i wanted to ask you first [09:38] assign how you like ... i mean reassign to team if don't like it :) === gnomefreak not sure what ones you wanted off hand [09:38] what a mess ... how to use aptitude to smartly replace totem-gstreamer with totem-xine [09:38] asac: sudo apt-get install totem-xine [09:39] or aptitude [09:39] it will remove totem-gs and install -xine [09:39] yeah ... but I like aptitude and fear that using apt-get once will mess with the smart features of it :) [09:39] than use smart :) [09:39] aptitude install totem-xine gives me incomprehensible suggestions === gnomefreak for most part dont use apt any more [09:39] but non suggestion will install totem-xine [09:40] thats aptitde trying to be smarter than it is [09:40] IMHO aptitude is always trying to fix depends when it cant [09:40] i have the feeling that aptitude is somehow right ... mybe totem-xine does not exist in 2.16.2-0ubuntu3 ? [09:40] it does [09:41] it alteast did [09:41] asac: this is up-to-date edgy? [09:41] yes [09:41] its in edgy [09:42] the bot told me so :) [09:42] [09:42] gnomefreak+> !info totem-xine [09:42] 15:41 < ubotu > totem-xine: A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.16.2-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1076 kB, installed size 5888 kB [09:42] [09:43] crazy ... so totem-xine is in universe for edgy, but in main for feisty? [09:43] yes i think let me check mine [09:43] nope [09:43]