[12:01] <IndyGunFreak> Trunkz: gentoo is a great distro, its just difficult for a newbie.
[12:01] <nickreynolds> ubuntu seems great already, if didn't use so many windows programs daily i would put ubuntu on all my machines. Just the live disk cd feature is nice. When a friends computer won't boot into windows and i need to no more about the error code I can just pop in the live cd and hop on the net, its nice
[12:01] <bulmer> pppoe_dude: man tput
[12:01] <Trunkz> I have a habit of getting things in the lil skull o' mine, if I do it.. over and over
[12:01] <AngryElf> n /join #bcm
[12:01] <Yodude> help please
[12:02] <IndyGunFreak> I've been windowless a bout 6mo, couldn't be happier
[12:02] <Trunkz> Quintin: Shall i restart gdm before running the *.run proggie
[12:02] <torbit> Quintin, just so you know, before you waste your time, I went through so much stuff trying to get my computer booting off this card (with windows too), I don't think i'll be able to boot from it
[12:02] <kaje1> quintin: I have eth0 and eth1... sometime 0 is on the net, sometimes 1 is on the net... However, I can only tell firestarter to configure the firewall on one of those at a given time... I'd like both at the same time (to be configured the same by the way)
[12:02] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: im glad to see ur back i ran the command mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozillabackup. mozilla ran fine for about 10 min and now is haning again. can you pls help
[12:02] <bruenig> Cyrus25801, well that was my only guess, to restore the settings, mv ~/.mozillabackup ~/.mozilla
[12:02] <Quintin> Trunkz: are you in X now?  you can leave it going.  go ahead and install the .run
[12:03] <bulmer> kaje1: you can set which name gets associated by using udev..look into this
[12:03] <Trunkz> Quintin: okeh =D
[12:03] <willskills> guys I am trying to get teamspeak working with alsa, using a USB headset (and aoss)
[12:03] <Quintin> torbit: k.  be back in a bit.. reading some things.  what is your motherboard?
[12:03] <willskills> and I am not having probs like some people with mic and speakers always muted
[12:03] <pppoe_dude> bulmer, tput dosnt seem to have options to change the number of rows, and tput init didnt do anything
[12:03] <willskills> but I dont get playback or record in teamspeak
[12:03] <willskills> although I get playback all the time otherwise
[12:03] <Cyrus25801> bruenig: thanx
[12:04] <Trunkz> Quintin: okey.. that lovely installation finished.. its told me to run aticonfig, shall I go on ahead?
[12:04] <willskills> anyone have a pointer on where to start?
[12:04] <torbit> ASUS....something or another, one sec
[12:04] <Quintin> Trunkz: 2s
[12:04] <Trunkz> torbit: What skt?
[12:04] <copperkid> hello all
[12:04] <torbit> it's an older one, one of the nforce2 based ones
[12:04] <jexdawg> i'm following this guide exactly: http://brentroos.com/2006/07/07/change-gnome-panel-text-color/ to change my text color in a panel, but for some reason it isn't working. just... nothing happens. can anyone help me? i'm saving .gtkrc-2.0 in my /home folder and then killing and restarting gnome panels. perhaps i just need to restart comp or x-server? does anyone have any ideas?
[12:04] <Cyrus25801> can someone pls help im runing mozilla and it keeps haning then comes right then hangs again.feels like im using windows. pls help
[12:04] <Trunkz> torbit: A7N8X-E Deluxe? :P
[12:04] <Yodude> synaptic help please! serious errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6293/
[12:05] <Trunkz> torbit: has two internal sata ports?
[12:05] <seamus7> Hi I'm looking for the source of random boot up freezes, it was suggested I look in /var/log/messages ... what sort of messages would I see?
[12:05] <torbit> Trunkz, nope, that's why i'm having the problem...have to use a sata add-in card, that I can't actually boot off of
[12:05] <dyrne> !easysource | Yodude
[12:05] <ubotu> Yodude: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:05] <Trunkz> torbit: does ubuntu have the drivers for ur sata card?
[12:06] <Quintin> Trunkz: do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , then reboot.  Don't use aticonfig at this time
[12:06] <Apollyon_> Cyrus25801: kill the process and start mozilla again
[12:06] <torbit> Trunkz, ubuntu sees it just fine, already installed to it, I just can't boot from it
[12:06] <dyrne> Yodude: i never used to use it but its actually pretty handy
[12:06] <au_> I need to start an application in ISO-8859-2, how can I do this? someone can help me please???
[12:06] <Trunkz> Quintin: will do.
[12:06] <Quintin> Cyrus25801: how many extensions do you have?
[12:06] <nickreynolds> so just so i'm clear on it, there is no such things as a root login in ubuntu, Everything that needs to be done is done with sudo and the initial password  i used at install.
[12:06] <Trunkz> Quintin: it came up with a scary screen lol, what driver am I choosing o.o
[12:06] <Cyrus25801> Apollyon_: if you mean like restart the pc i have done that.
[12:06] <phaidros> nickreynolds, yes.
[12:06] <AcKRoNiC> uff
[12:06] <Yodude> yes cuz i'm getting spome hefty erros
[12:07] <dyrne> nickreynolds: generally yes
[12:07] <AcKRoNiC> mi leggete?
[12:07] <Yodude> btw what is the solution to that GPG problem?
[12:07] <nickreynolds> thank you
[12:07] <Yodude> do i delete the keys?
[12:07] <Cyrus25801> Quintin: what do you mean.pls explain
[12:07] <Apollyon_> Cyrus25801: Not restart. Kill the process
[12:07] <Trunkz> torbit: what u mean by installed to it? You installed ubuntu onto the sata hd?
[12:07] <Quintin> torbit: I think you are going to need to create a /boot on hda.. or use a floppy or CD.  sorry
[12:07] <Quintin> Trunkz: fglrx
[12:07] <Cyrus25801> ?
[12:07] <Quintin> Cyrus25801: Firefox extensions.  how many do you have?
[12:08] <Quintin> Cyrus25801: tools > addons from within firefox
[12:08] <pppoe_dude> :( almost perfect
[12:08] <prodigel> hello. I've pluged in my usb acer dongle, i get it seen everywhere  from lsusb so lsmod to administratio - networking ,so i think it's working. still I don't have a clue about the configuration needed to be made. I see there essid password type and network password but this doesn;t tell me much. Is it enough to make it work? btw: i'm trying to make an adhoc wlan wit another ubuntu with the...
[12:08] <prodigel> ...same type of device(no problems there too)
[12:08] <Steil> with emerald running, I can't resize windows. Is there anyway to fix this?
[12:08] <seamus7> What log file should I scan for errors if I suspect my video card/configuration is causing periodic freezes upon boot up?
[12:08] <nickreynolds> what is the paste command in prompt
[12:08] <emet> someone randomly suggest me a package to download
[12:08] <Quintin> torbit: the card isn't shown anywhere in your motherboard BIOS?
[12:08] <Quintin> emet: yakuake
[12:09] <torbit> Quintin, ok, could you kind of give me some pointers on making a /boot? just a new linux partition at the beginning of the drive, with a /boot folder created (then install grub to it?)
[12:09] <Apollyon_> emet: amarok
[12:09] <Quintin> seamus7: /var/log/Xorg.0.log perhaps
[12:09] <phaidros> emet, whut?
[12:09] <phaidros> emet, listen :)
[12:09] <emet> Quintin, got that
[12:09] <emet> :P
[12:09] <seamus7> Quintin: thanks
[12:09] <ameinke> !pastebin
[12:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:09] <Cyrus25801> Quintin: well just 1 language pack
[12:09] <nickreynolds> thanks
[12:09] <Trunkz> Quintin: I just guessed.. all the other values xD
[12:09] <schrecklover> hallo an alle
[12:09] <Quintin> torbit: GRUB is on the MBR.  conf files are in /boot.  you'd need to resize the ntfs partition
[12:09] <Quintin> Trunkz: probably ok
[12:09] <torbit> ok, motherboard is A7N8X-X
[12:10] <jamie_> Can any one help me. I am trying to install an older kernel on ltsp as the latest one on edgy does not seem to support the sound balster module on the sff very well. How do I do this please
[12:10] <phaidros> emet, qjackctl
[12:10] <karmayogi54> no offense
[12:10] <Apollyon_> schrecklover: !de
[12:10] <karmayogi54> but id like to get rid of ubuntu
[12:10] <jonathan_> is amarok compatible with gnomer
[12:10] <jonathan_> *gonme
[12:10] <Trunkz> Quintin: Okey, I'm lazy.. so I'll reboot gdm =P
[12:10] <jonathan_> c
[12:10] <jonathan_> *gnome
[12:10] <karmayogi54> now for some reason i cant find the partition its installedon
[12:10] <Quintin> jamie_: might chat with #alsa about the sound first
[12:10] <Apollyon_> !de | schrecklover
[12:10] <ubotu> schrecklover: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:10] <Quintin> Trunkz: reboot whole machine
[12:10] <nickreynolds> hahah
[12:10] <karmayogi54> how do i do i unistall
[12:10] <Quintin> jonathan_: sure
[12:10] <nickreynolds> it worked, i have ssh installed
[12:10] <nickreynolds> thank you all
[12:10] <Quintin> karmayogi54: delete the partition ?
[12:10] <jonathan_> can anyone help me wiith amarok
[12:11] <Quintin> !ask | jonathan_
[12:11] <ubotu> jonathan_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:11] <karmayogi54> well for some reason
[12:11] <prodigel> no one wants to help a poor guy with it's wlan problem  ? :)
[12:11] <jonathan_> im having issues with amarok
[12:11] <karmayogi54> gnome partition sees my partition as a whole
[12:11] <torbit> Quintin, motherboard is A7N8X-X in case you were wondering (and didn't catch it before)
[12:11] <phaidros> prodigel, whats up?
[12:11] <karmayogi54> and i have both windows and linux on it
[12:11] <Quintin> prodigel: what chipset.  what is problem?
[12:11] <jonathan_> when a song is finished playing and it goes to the next i get no audio output
[12:11] <Quintin> torbit: k
[12:11] <Cyrus25801> Quintin: well just 1 language pack
[12:11] <jonathan_> i have to stop whats playing and double click the song again
[12:11] <karmayogi54> and  i have a gb harddrive
[12:11] <phaidros> jonathan_, using ubuntu or Kubuntu ?
[12:11] <jonathan_> let it start playin and then stop it again then start it again and hopefully it will play
[12:11] <jonathan_> ubuntu
[12:12] <Quintin> Cyrus25801: What are specs of this machine?
[12:12] <karmayogi54> and when i go to windows
[12:12] <Trunkz> back..
[12:12] <karmayogi54> and see my c: it only shows a total of
[12:12] <phaidros> jonathan_, might have something to do with artsd - the kde sound demon. usually its not used on gnome ..
[12:12] <Trunkz> Right.. well fglrxinfo still says mesa
[12:12] <karmayogi54> 14.7*
[12:12] <prodigel> hello. I've pluged in my usb acer dongle, i get it seen everywhere  from lsusb so lsmod to administratio - networking ,so i think it's working. still I don't have a clue about the configuration needed to be made. I see there essid password type and network password but this doesn;t tell me much. Is it enough to make it work? btw: i'm trying to make an adhoc wlan wit another ubuntu with the...
[12:12] <prodigel> ...same type of device(no problems there too)
[12:12] <Trunkz> however, my beloved xorg.conf file, looks more accurate
[12:12] <jonathan_> should i download artsd
[12:12] <prodigel> phaidros: that was for you
[12:12] <nickreynolds> its wierd thought, when i used the sudo command for the install it didn't needa password, but i did use sudo recently. i remember reading somewhere that some systems retain sudo access for about 15 minutes.
[12:12] <Quintin> Trunkz: glxinfo | grep rendering
[12:12] <karmayogi54> can i get help for this?
[12:12] <Apollyon_> !ask | karmayogi54
[12:12] <ubotu> karmayogi54: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:13] <Yodude> hey i'm having GPG error in synaptic can someone help?http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6295/
[12:13] <prodigel> phaidros: i think it's a settings problem not a driver problem
[12:13] <Trunkz> Quintin: No.. * cries *
[12:13] <karmayogi54> how do i fix this
[12:13] <phaidros> prodigel, you can try to use wifi-radar, which is not the most stable tool for me
[12:13] <Apollyon_> !enter | karmayogi54
[12:13] <ubotu> karmayogi54: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:13] <Trunkz> Quintin: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:13] <Apollyon_> !enter | karmayogi54
[12:13] <Quintin> Trunkz: paste lsmod and the Xorg log please
[12:13] <phaidros> prodigel, or just use a tereminal
[12:13] <Apollyon_> !enter | karmayogi54
[12:13] <Apollyon_> !enter | karmayogi54
[12:13] <Cyrus25801> Quintin: dual core 2.6, 512 DDR II, geforce 6600, dvd rw, 80 gig hdd etc
[12:13] <phaidros> prodigel, try iwconfig and ifconfig
[12:13] <Trunkz> errr.. I forgot the commands xD
[12:14] <torbit> quintin, going to put the sata card back in and boot back into a livecd for now, see if I can figure something out
[12:14] <Trunkz> lsmod | grep something
[12:14] <Quintin> Cyrus25801: your computer is faster than mine.  I hate you.
[12:14] <prodigel> phaidros: i've worked with iwconfig
[12:14] <nickreynolds> lol
[12:14] <Quintin> torbit: k
[12:14] <phaidros> prodigel, man iwconfig & man ifconfig are helping here too!
[12:14] <Trunkz> and.. /var/log/Xorg.log.0 right?
[12:14] <Cyrus25801> Quintin: lol
[12:14] <Quintin> Trunkz: everything from lsmod
[12:14] <phaidros> prodigel, ok, so what is problem in detail?
[12:14] <Yodude> can someone help me with this GPG error i'm getting?
[12:14] <Trunkz> !pastebin
[12:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:14] <Quintin> Cyrus25801: I do have more RAM though. :p
[12:14] <Cyrus25801> Quintin: I try
[12:14] <nickreynolds> well good talking with you all, thanks for the help and good day to you all
[12:14] <phaidros> prodigel, iwconfig ath0 mode ad-hoc (or adhoc, depending on the model) essid youressid
[12:14] <Cyrus25801> Quintin: but what to do now?
[12:15] <Trunkz> Quintin: lsmod stuff ~ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6296/
[12:15] <Yodude> !GPG
[12:15] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[12:15] <prodigel> phaidros: firstly it's seen as eth not ath
[12:15] <karmayogi54> ?
[12:15] <schrecklover> BYEBYE
[12:15] <albertito> Hi! I installed an ubuntu edgy server some time ago (about 10 days) and something strange appear on the logs. It looks like a mem-info, like the ones that appear before OOM, but there is no OOM. The server is idle, has plenty of RAM left, it's in an internal network, and the tty message looks strange too. I pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6294/ and it has appeared twice, once Feb 16 and another Feb 13, both with the tty mes
[12:15] <prodigel> phaidros: but that could be because it's an usb stick
[12:15] <phaidros> prodigel, yes eth0 is ok
[12:15] <Quintin> Cyrus25801: I'd delete or move .firefox , then start firefox again and see what happens
[12:15] <emet> will there be an ubuntu fiesty server ?
[12:15] <prodigel> phaidros: now it says access point it's invalid.
[12:15] <phaidros> prodigel, can be named wifi0 wlan0 zusb0 .. as the driver implements it
[12:16] <Trunkz> Okey people.. flood me with noob-level questions =D
[12:16] <prodigel> phaidros: should i name it somehow? does it make importance?
[12:16] <phaidros> prodigel, what network? adhoc network on which chanel?
[12:16] <turbolover> hey what is video overlay and opengl overlay? could they impact the performance of my system?
[12:16] <Trunkz> Such as!.. How to load firefox ;p
[12:16] <albertito> I searched in google for the tty message, or spurious mem-info appearances, and nothing came up. Does anyone know what might be going on?
[12:16] <prodigel> phaidros: adhoc
[12:16] <turbolover> cos after some updates
[12:16] <nickreynolds> cyrus what you need to do is write an deduction based natural language artificial intelligence that gathers all its knowledge from wikipedia.org . it will be a super genius A.I. in weeks
[12:16] <Cyrus25801> Quintin: like run this command that brueing gave me: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozillabackup. tried but it still does the same
[12:16] <turbolover> my system is slower
[12:16] <Quintin> Trunkz: what bus is the card on?
[12:16] <Trunkz> .. No idea
[12:16] <Quintin> Cyrus25801: what version of ff?
[12:17] <Trunkz> I * think * 3:0:0
[12:17] <Quintin> Trunkz: pci, agp, pcix16?
[12:17] <prodigel> phaidros: i want to register to talk privately. how do I register :D
[12:17] <Trunkz> its agp
[12:17] <Trunkz> I'm running an ever-aging box =p
[12:17] <Cyrus25801> Quintin: 1.5.0.9
[12:17] <Devi1> i have problem with ATI ... the 3d doesn't work
[12:18] <Devi1> can someone help me?
[12:18] <Quintin> Cyrus25801: nforce motherboard?  does it have onboard gfx adapter?
[12:18] <Quintin> !ask | Devi1
[12:18] <ubotu> Devi1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:18] <Trunkz> Quintin: Maybe I should restart the computer? maybe that'd help instead of just restarting gdm
[12:18] <Quintin> Trunkz: yes. I think I said that ;p
[12:18] <Cyrus25801> Quintin: not nforce but does have on board.
[12:18] <Quintin> Trunkz: did you paste xorg log?
[12:18] <Devi1> I have a problem with ATI fglxr
[12:18] <prodigel> phaidros: I don't know what settings are to be made so that adhoc will work
[12:18] <Quintin> Cyrus25801: what is the onboard video?  intel 915?  is it disabled in BIOS?
[12:19] <Trunkz> Quintin: I cant remember the /var/log line & I havent typed aticonfig.. do I do that after the system restart or before
[12:19] <phaidros> prodigel, just type "/msg NICKSERV register youpassword"  in the server window of your irc client
[12:19] <Quintin> Devi1: get to the point...  and lots of details
[12:19] <Cyrus25801> Quintin: how do i check what on board
[12:19] <jonathan_> arts didnt help me fix my problem
[12:19] <Quintin> Trunkz: you don't, for now
[12:19] <Devi1> I have installed with all the three metod but the 3d doesn't work
[12:19] <Yodude> please how can i fix GPG errors in synaptic?
[12:19] <Yodude> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6295/
[12:19] <Apollyon_> !ati | Devi1
[12:19] <ubotu> Devi1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:19] <Quintin> Trunkz: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:19] <frojnd> hello guys, I have question
[12:19] <Trunkz> Cyrus25801: goto ur bios.. ur chipset shud be there
[12:19] <Quintin> !public key
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about public key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <Quintin> !publickey
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about publickey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <jonathan_> i downloaded the arts package and its still not workin
[12:20] <jonathan_> only intermittent audio from amarok
[12:20] <Apollyon_> !ask | frojnd
[12:20] <ubotu> frojnd: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:20] <Cyrus25801> Quintin, Trunkz: brb going to check
[12:20] <frojnd> I need to convert 434 pdf pages into pictures how can I do this with pdftk...
[12:20] <Trunkz> Quintin: okey.. one beloved log paste comin up: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6297/
[12:20] <Trunkz> Cyrus25801: kk :)
[12:20] <Yodude> help with GPG in synaptic please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6295/
[12:20] <Trunkz> Yodude: to fix ur gpg errors, download the gpg keys :)
[12:20] <Quintin> Trunkz: after reboot, if it still doesn't work do 'aticonfig --initial' and restart X.  is the onboard video disabled in the BIOS?
[12:21] <Trunkz> Yodude: for example; wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[12:21] <aeromix> hi all..can you help me? I need to run an application in ISO-8859-2 encoding!!! how can I do this?
[12:21] <Quintin> Trunkz: no, do that now, actually.
[12:21] <Trunkz> Quintin: I dont have onboard video :P
[12:21] <Quintin> Trunkz: wrong person, sorry
[12:21] <Yodude> i don't want eccess ones
[12:21] <Trunkz> Quintin: * confused * .. do what?
[12:21] <Yodude> but the two essential ones are invalid!
[12:21] <Yodude> 1 sorry
[12:22] <Trunkz> Yodude: well it wud helped if u told me the repos :p
[12:22] <Yodude> my sources.list u mean?
[12:22] <Trunkz> Yodude: The two repos that are causing u GPG problems
[12:22] <Quintin> Trunkz: 'aticonfig --initial'
[12:22] <torbit> Quintin, ok, you mentioned making a /boot on /dev/hda, XP is currently on the drive, can I resize it with gparted, make a new ext3 partition at the beginning, and then make a /boot folder, and point grub-install there as my root directory?
[12:22] <Trunkz> Quintin: do that now? kk
[12:22] <Yodude> well look at the error they're written there i think http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6295/
[12:22] <Quintin> torbit: yes.  backups are advised
[12:22] <Quintin> Trunkz: yep
[12:23] <Trunkz> Quintin: Found fglrx primary device section
[12:23] <Trunkz> Nothing to do, terminating.
[12:23] <torbit> Quintin, ah yeah...ubuntu wiped out my entire drive before, it tried to do something with a "Dynamic Partition" I had setup in windows, ubuntu saw it as a weirdly sized ntfs partition
[12:24] <NinjaPinguin> Can anyone tell me a good tool for rescuing data?
[12:24] <torbit> ubuntu did its thing, errored out, and then no partitions when i go back to windows, on that drive
[12:24] <Yodude> trunkz: i think this is the repo causing the prob http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release
[12:24] <Quintin> NinjaPinguin: dd_rescue
[12:24] <mrak> I'm lazy. Is there something simpler than exim/postfix?
[12:24] <Trunkz> Yodude: type sudo apt-get update
[12:24] <Trunkz> :)
[12:24] <Yodude> k
[12:25] <Quintin> doh
[12:25] <Trunkz> Quintin: Welcome back.. u forgot the pizza ;p
[12:25] <frojnd> Let me ask Again: how can I convert pdf file of 434 pages into pictures, every page for it's picture with pdftk??? please help
[12:25] <torbit> Quintin, actually, does this partition have to be at the beginning of the drive? gparted won't seem to let me move the XP partition forward, can only decrease the size of it
[12:25] <julien> hello
[12:25] <Trunkz> Yodude: Did it fix ur problem? :)
[12:25] <dts_> How do you actually use phpmyadmin after you installed it?
[12:26] <Trunkz> torbit: Your partition can be anywhere.. its faster at the beginning of the drive however
[12:26] <Trunkz> !phpmyadmin
[12:26] <Quintin> torbit: 5 years ago?  I think so.  now..  I don't know.
[12:26] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:2.8.2-0.2 (edgy), package size 3522 kB, installed size 13752 kB
[12:26] <torbit> heh
[12:26] <Trunkz> okey, the bot doesnt help
[12:26] <julien> i have a problem with nvidia driver, at start X doesn't want to start, after i do /etc/init.d/gdm restart and it work why does it not work at boot ?
[12:26] <torbit> well ubuntu won't be running from there, just the boot process
[12:26] <dts_> Trunkz: ;-)
[12:26] <Yodude> trunkz: i'm still getting the GPG error
[12:26] <Trunkz> dts_: lol, errm.. * thinks * you got apache & php installed and set up correctly
[12:27] <dts_> Trunkz: yea,
[12:27] <Trunkz> Yodude: Right.. whats ur ubuntu version? (dapper, breezy, stinky, edge)
[12:27] <Yodude> Edgy
[12:27] <Trunkz> dts_: Well, if you've configured phpmyadmin right (I remember there being a file in there which sets up all the mysql database username & pass stuff etc..) then it shud be http://localhost:<port>/phpmyadmin/index.php
[12:27] <Trunkz> Yodude: Edgy.. and ur having problems? O_o
[12:28] <Trunkz> odd
[12:28] <Yodude> i know it didn't use to give me these erros
[12:28] <dts_> Trunkz: how do i configure phpmyadmin right ;-)
[12:28] <Trunkz> Yodude: gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 437D05B5
[12:28] <Trunkz> gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[12:28] <Trunkz> dts_: read the instructions lol..
[12:28] <dts_> Trunkz: if that worked that easy, i wouldn't be in this channel wouldn't i
[12:29] <Trunkz> dts_: contrary to popular belief.. linux is easy to use, its just HOW you use it that makes it all the more difficult.. (Oh yes, this is my try at a more complex sentence.. I get brownie points no less ;p)
[12:30] <dts_> Trunkz: well tell me where to read and i'll do it
[12:30] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> I have just updated to Ubuntu 6.10 from 6.06.  For some reason, it removed the disks selection from the System>Adminstrative menu.  Has anyone seen that before?
[12:30] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> How can I fix it without doing a complete fresh instal of the system?
[12:30] <Yodude> trunkz: lol this error is haunting me, do you think deleting the .GPG files from /etc/apt will help?
[12:30] <Yodude> trunkz: maybe they're corrupting APT
[12:30] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Quintin, sorru feels like im being ignored :P
[12:30] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Please could any take step by step howto install flashplayer to OPERA on ubuntu5,1. mozilla ff was np but when trying on Opera:  http://quad.mine.nu/Sk%c3%a4rmdump.png
[12:30] <Trunkz> dts_: I cant remember the config file.. its probably somewhere, do a google search for phpmyadmin howto
[12:30] <ryan_ishere> hello
[12:30] <Quintin> ITS_FOR_REAL: it's fine asking again after several minutes
[12:30] <mrak> why did apt-get remove (exim) leave init.d scripts?
[12:31] <Quintin> Rob59-Cinti-OH: That's expected behavior
[12:31] <Trunkz> Yodude: Did you do those two commands? Once you've done em, run sudo apt-get update
[12:31] <dts_> Trunkz: again, if that worked i wouldn't be here
[12:31] <ryan_ishere> does anybody know of a program that I can use to put songs on my ipod in Ubuntu
[12:31] <Quintin> Trunkz: I'm honestly about out of ideas.  Not sure why you're not getting DRI.. the module is loaded.  let me look again
[12:31] <Quintin> ryan_ishere: gtkpod
[12:31] <antonio_> hola
[12:31] <Trunkz> Quintin: Go Linux rofl
[12:31] <ryan_ishere> whats that mean?
[12:31] <Quintin> ryan_ishere: I think ipod is just a USB mass storage device anyway.  you can use anything
[12:31] <antonio_> alguien de ESPAA
[12:32] <Quintin> antonio_: bienvenido
[12:32] <Apollyon_> !es | antonio_
[12:32] <ubotu> antonio_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:32] <UltimateX> I still have Red Hat Linux Professional 9... haha like a long time ago
[12:32] <ryan_ishere> right but will it work as well as it does with Itunes
[12:32] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here help me with network-manager, I installed it and after a reboot it shows up in my sys tray but I can't seem to figure out how to configure it
[12:32] <Trunkz> dts_: Go join #phpmyadmin ;p This is the #ubuntu channel =p.. I've ran outta ideas (and go search google properly, I managed to do it awhile back using just google)
[12:32] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> it is...  the 6.10 documentation calls for using that program from the menu.
[12:32] <ubuntuclient> Apolloy can you give me the link again for the usb drive
[12:32] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> why is that?
[12:32] <Trunkz> yodude: gimme yo country
[12:32] <ubuntuclient> Apollyon can you give me the link how to install Usb drive
[12:33] <Trunkz> yodude: if ur lazy, say america.. and I'll go on ahead with things
[12:33] <HP_Vue> I got ubuntu on my PSP, is that worthy to be posted on the ubuntu website?
[12:33] <Yodude> Trunkz: Lebanon
[12:33] <Quintin> HP_Vue: no.  it's worthy of ars technica or ubuntuforums or such
[12:33] <ryan_ishere> so does anyone know if there is a program that ubuntu has that is as good as itunes
[12:33] <Trunkz> Yodude: america it is xD
[12:33] <Yodude> lol
[12:33] <dabaR> HP_Vue: what ubuntu web site?
[12:33] <HP_Vue> ryan_ishere: Yea, Itunes
[12:33] <pepesmith> rhythmbox
[12:33] <ryan_ishere> Itunes works on ubuntu
[12:34] <ryan_ishere> ?
[12:34] <HP_Vue> dabaR: www.ubuntu.com maybe
[12:34] <Cyrus25801> Quintin: cant find what chipset i hav in my bios
[12:34] <phaidros> ryan_ishere, is that a question or a statement?
[12:34] <ryan_ishere> question
[12:34] <HP_Vue> I thought wine could get itunes to work
[12:34] <ryan_ishere> i dont have wine
[12:34] <phaidros> ryan_ishere, imho not.
[12:34] <dabaR> HP_Vue: we would not know. You can ask on #ubuntu-marketing.
[12:34] <HP_Vue> oh
[12:34] <Trunkz> Yodude: do this.. sudo apt-get clean all then,
[12:34] <Trunkz> gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 437D05B5
[12:34] <Trunkz> gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[12:34] <Trunkz> then.. sudo apt-get update
[12:34] <Trunkz> and if that doesnt work.. then I give up xD
[12:35] <ryan_ishere> so is there a worth while equivalent on ubuntu
[12:35] <Cyrus25801> Trunkz, Quintin: cant find what chipset i hav in my bios
[12:35] <pepesmith> hp_vue: last time the i tunes requirement is win2k with sp4..so it wont work on wine
[12:35] <Trunkz> Cyrus25801: okeh.. err, got ur manual nearby? :p
[12:35] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ryan_ishere, there are other pograms out there that will do the trick. maybe it wont be as easy like before but it shure will be able to work
[12:35] <Trunkz> WAIT.. how the heck am I helping u guys o.o
[12:35] <teclo> Say, when the fuck are you people gonna fix the bugs in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[12:35] <HP_Vue> ohh
[12:35] <Trunkz> I must be leeching off Quintin's brain xD
[12:35] <PriceChild> !ohmy | teclo
[12:35] <ubotu> teclo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:35] <ryan_ishere> real question is will it be easy enough for my mom
[12:36] <Trunkz> teclo: when people like you stop asking =)
[12:36] <Cyrus25801> trunkz: tried to find it but cant. where about do i check in bios
[12:36] <numa> teclo:  you are welcome to fork, good luck.
[12:36] <ryan_ishere> cause if not i might install windows on this comp and forgo the problems of compatibility on ubuntu
[12:36] <teclo> numa: I like to fork
[12:36] <PriceChild> teclo: things will be done when they're done. IF you want it done fster then do it yourself. Until then please file good bug reports
[12:36] <UltimateX> I like to Spork...
[12:36] <Trunkz> Cyrus25801: .. oh crap, i'm so stupid.. right u know when u start up ur pc, and ur on that black screen.. there shud be something like Asus <random number / character looks like model number>
[12:37] <UltimateX> Spork's are beter and they dont hurt
[12:37] <UltimateX> better*
[12:37] <Trunkz> just write that down, and google search it
[12:37] <Yodude> trunkz: is this a ghost or what?
[12:37] <Trunkz> Eg: Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe
[12:37] <ryan_ishere> ok well thanks for the help
[12:37] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ryan_ishere, my guess is that it wont work easy enough for ut mom but thats just a wild guess. how good u can exoplain for ur mom and how bright ur mom is isnt the easiest guess
[12:37] <Apollyon_> ubuntuclient: http://pendrivelinux.com/  and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5151 and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1229101&postcount=158
[12:37] <Quintin> Trunkz: I have a headache.. stop that!
[12:37] <dabaR> teclo: we have nothing to do with fixing bug. If you have a specific bug that annoys you, perhaps you can offer some money on launchapd to get it fixed.
[12:37] <numa> UltimateX:  like the knife sporks, the ones that cut also
[12:37] <Yodude> hey i'll just remove those .GPG files
[12:37] <ryan_ishere> right i know
[12:37] <Trunkz> Yodude: probably.. linux isnt good for you xD Goto Mac
[12:37] <Trunkz> =P
[12:37] <ryan_ishere> but she just isnt that computer savy
[12:37] <Trunkz> Quintin: * feeds pizza *
[12:37] <puff> Evening, I have once again lost sound on my laptop.  I'm _pretty_ sure it's not because I accidentally ran some app that didn't go through the alsa daemon, because I set up menu bar icons for my favorite sound-using apps (firefox, rhythmbox, amarok, totem) to use aoss. A few months ago I ran into this problem and I eventually stumbled onto an additional volume control that I hand't known about, and now cannot find again, that fi
[12:37] <puff> xed the issue.  Any suggestions?
[12:37] <UltimateX> Knife Sporks? *Squels* haha
[12:38] <torbit> Quintin, ok, all done, about to reboot and see if it worked
[12:38] <UltimateX> thats awesome
[12:38] <nickreynolds> hi all i'm trying to remote desktop into my ubuntu machine  from a windows machine
[12:38] <UltimateX> an all in one!
[12:38] <ubuntuclient> Apollyon man thanks,becouse i restart ubuntu live cd and i lost the page.
[12:38] <torbit> grub-install didn't complain about anything
[12:38] <teclo> dabaR: offer money ? You must be kidding ! Ubuntu is a funded project ! Mark Shuttleworth has the money !
[12:38] <ryan_ishere> and itunes works so easy it might be worth it
[12:38] <Trunkz> torbit: gud luck trbit ;p
[12:38] <nickreynolds> i figured VNC is the best way
[12:38] <teclo> Does that mean I should go ask Mark Shuttleworth to pay you to fix your shit ?
[12:38] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> sorry to repeat: I have just updated to Ubuntu 6.10 from 6.06.  For some reason, it removed the disks selection from the System>Adminstrative menu.
[12:38] <dabaR> teclo: so he gives money for bugs that bother him.
[12:38] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> I don't see why that would be removed from the administration menu since there is basic info. and information from the program and the documentation still calls for it to be used.
[12:38] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> Anyone no how to restore it?  what is the program name?
[12:38] <ryan_ishere> thanks though
[12:38] <torbit> after grub-install finished, it shows /dev/sda as a device drive, so maybe it will work
[12:38] <UltimateX> I want food
[12:38] <ryan_ishere> take care guys
[12:38] <UltimateX> I'm hungry
[12:38] <UltimateX> and i gotta load up my ipod with music
[12:38] <nickreynolds> i need to know how to install the vnc server via SSH
[12:38] <dabaR> puff: alsamixer, see whether anything is muted, and run lsof /dev/dsp* to see whether some program hogged up the sound device.
[12:38] <Yodude> Trunkz: lol i wish i had a mac
[12:39] <UltimateX> 6gb's of music isnt enough
[12:39] <Yodude> Trunkz: those r what i can call computers
[12:39] <UltimateX> yodude: I wish i had a mactel
[12:39] <puff> Is there any way to *check* and see if something besides alsa daemon has the sound lock?
[12:39] <UltimateX> :-)
[12:39] <pepesmith> ultimatex: go for 60g
[12:39] <Trunkz> puff: I'll try and get to u ina sec.. lemme help out, these noober people xD
[12:39] <UltimateX> I have a 30gb ipod
[12:39] <dabaR> Rob59-Cinti-OH: they removed that app from edgy, no idea why.
[12:39] <UltimateX> but i want more music on my computer
[12:39] <Yodude> :) me too i like the macbook
[12:39] <UltimateX> I have the Video IPOD
[12:39] <Trunkz> puff: search ubuntuforums.org for alsa lookup whilst ur waiting.. I had a problem a while ago with my inspiron laptop
[12:39] <Yodude> so sexy design
[12:39] <Quintin> Trunkz: I am starting to think that the answer it to buy a NVIDIA card.
[12:40] <Trunkz> Quintin: OH.. about nvidia xD I actually bought a 6600GT this morning, and I killed it
[12:40] <UltimateX> I want a MacTel *Mac with Intel (XP)
[12:40] <ljlolel> how can I make vlc play twice as fast?
[12:40] <mediacenter> i need some help with raid, anybody willing?
[12:40] <Apollyon_> ubuntuclient: If you want to write people's name in this channel type some name letters and then press tab key. You don't need to type all the name every time :-)
[12:40] <puff>  Trunkz: Appreciated.  I'l llisten in and see if I know the answers :-).
[12:40] <Quintin> Trunkz: you .. what?
[12:40] <Trunkz> Quintin: yea xD
[12:40] <Quintin> !ask | mediacenter
[12:40] <ubotu> mediacenter: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:40] <nickreynolds> can anyone help me with my vnc server setup
[12:40] <Quintin> mediacenter: software or hardware?
[12:40] <dabaR> puff: did you get my reply?
[12:40] <Quintin> Trunkz: how?
[12:40] <ubuntuclient> Apollyon ok.Thanks.
[12:40] <Trunkz> Quintin: No idea WHAT happened.. it just died.. =p
[12:40] <mediacenter> Quintin: software
[12:40] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> dabaR: what is the app. name?
[12:40] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> can it be reinstalled from the app stuff?
[12:40] <Quintin> !ask | nickreynolds
[12:40] <ubotu> nickreynolds: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:40] <Quintin> Trunkz: under warranty, I hope
[12:40] <mediacenter> i'm working on setting up software raid5 and i seem to be stuck
[12:41] <torbit> Quintin, this time it goes to a blank grub console
[12:41] <Cyrus25801> Trunkz: p4m890
[12:41] <Trunkz> Quintin: I did salvage a nice zalman fan off it, and stuck that onto my 9800pro
[12:41] <puff> dabaR: No, I missed it,t ahnks, I'll check it now.
[12:41] <torbit> grub>
[12:41] <puff> Btw, my favorite ubuntu-related website lately is ubuntuclips.org.  Little video tutorials for various tasks.
[12:41] <nickreynolds> is there a way to install the vnc server using apt
[12:41] <jamie_> I am trying to install an older kernel on ltsp as the latest one on edgy does not seem to support the sound balster module on the sff very well. How do I do this please
[12:41] <Trunkz> Quintin: 25 (around 50 bucks) from computer fair.. second-hand (aka second-user) so no warranty
[12:41] <nickreynolds> i'm connected to my machine via SSH
[12:41] <Trunkz> it was working under.. windows, I try to put linux on.. goes pooof..
[12:42] <Trunkz> nickreynolds: try apt-get install tightvnc (or tightvnc-server.. cant remember)
[12:42] <mediacenter> i was on one of the last steps and entered this: sudo mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd
[12:42] <Trunkz> (God.. Quintin, I really am leeching off ur brain xD)
[12:42] <nickreynolds> trunkz: thanks will try
[12:42] <Trunkz> np ;)
[12:42] <mediacenter> it gave me this error: mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: no such file or directory
[12:42] <dabaR> Rob59-Cinti-OH: I looked and can not find it. It is called disks-admin in dapper. No such thing in edgy.
[12:42] <Trunkz> okey.. who else did I need to help * thinks *
[12:43] <Trunkz> Some guy, with a laptop.. and sound problems
[12:43] <Trunkz> mupp, or something..
[12:43] <Trunkz> muff.. errr, whoever u are xD
[12:43] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> dabaR - thanks
[12:43] <nickreynolds> nope couldn't find the package
[12:43] <mediacenter> anybody familiar with software raid5?
[12:43] <nickreynolds> where would i find the things follow the apt command
[12:43] <Trunkz> nickreynolds: hold on.. lemme do a quick search =p
[12:43] <torbit> Quintin, still around?
[12:43] <Quintin> Trunkz: let me see your new xorg.conf
[12:43] <Yodude> trunkz: how can i copy files from my /etc/apt to /home/youssef/desktop?
[12:43] <Quintin> torbit: yes
[12:43] <Yodude> what's the command?
[12:43] <nickreynolds> k thank you
[12:44] <torbit> Quintin, getting a grub prompt now when it goes to boot
[12:44] <cartman368> hi
[12:44] <Trunkz> Quintin: coming up
[12:44] <torbit> like, a command line, not an actual boot menu
[12:44] <Trunkz> Yodude: type sudo cp <file> <to new file>
[12:44] <mjr> mediacenter, what about it?
[12:44] <Trunkz> Yodude: eg: sudo cp /home/bunta/porn.avi /home/bunta/secret/porn.avi
[12:44] <cartman368> how can i install dock?
[12:44] <Trunkz> :)
[12:44] <mediacenter> i'm on one of the last steps of creating a software raid5 array and getting an error
[12:44] <Trunkz> nickreynolds: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Remote_Desktop_Sharing.2FDuplication_via_VNC
[12:44] <dabaR> Yodude: sudo cp -r /etc/apt /home/youssef/Desktop
[12:44] <Trunkz> bloody hell xD
[12:45] <Trunkz> right.. xorg.conf
[12:45] <nickreynolds> thank  u good sir
[12:45] <mediacenter> i entered this: oot@vegasmediacenterfileserver:~# sudo mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd
[12:45] <mediacenter> i get this error: mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: No such file or directory
[12:45] <Trunkz> Quintin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6298/
[12:45] <dabaR> Trunkz: don't give such examples, please. If you want to know why, come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:45] <Quintin> You probably shouldn't use sudo to cp that stuff.. if yo udo be sure to chown it to the user account
[12:45] <frojnd> hello guys: I have serios problem!!
[12:46] <mjr> mediacenter, hmh, sudo modprobe md_mod
[12:46] <dabaR> Quintin: very good point.
[12:46] <frojnd> how can I convert 434 pages of PDF into any kind of picture format???
[12:46] <Cyrus25801> Trunkz: sorry got disconected. P4M890 via chipset
[12:46] <frojnd> every page for every picture?
[12:46] <frojnd> please help!!
[12:46] <Cyrus25801> Trunkz: if i said that right
[12:46] <mediacenter> mjr, that didn't do anything
[12:46] <mediacenter> or should i just try again?
[12:46] <Trunkz> Quintin: okey
[12:46] <Quintin> Trunkz: join me in #flood please.
[12:47] <Quintin> Trunkz: ok .. what? :p
[12:47] <Trunkz> Quintin: I'm not used.. to multi-tasking
[12:47] <Cyrus25801> Quintin: does the above help
[12:48] <marcin_> kto rozumie co napisaem
[12:48] <Trunkz> Cyrus25801: do a search using ur chipset (I assume its an asus?) to see whether its compatible with ubuntu.. eg, google: <chipset> on ubuntu
[12:48] <mjr> mediacenter, should
[12:48] <dabaR> frojnd: maybe take screenshots of each page.
[12:49] <dabaR> !pl > marcin_
[12:49] <mediacenter> i'm using kubuntu, does that matter?
[12:49] <frojnd> dabaR... I have 434 of pages.. so please help..
[12:49] <dabaR> marcin_: polish?
[12:49] <james296> can anyone here help me set up Gnome-Dock?
[12:49] <diezare> guys, i installed murrina 0.30.2 package. then i installed the configurator 0.30 and then rune it and nothing changed in the interface. any ideas?
[12:49] <james296> I cant find out how to install it properly
[12:49] <marcin_> tak
[12:49] <Trunkz> brb folks, restarting X
[12:49] <dabaR> !pl | marcin_
[12:49] <ubotu> marcin_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:49] <st3> !it | st3
[12:49] <nickreynolds> if i login into my ubuntu machine using SSH does that mean there is also a running gnome login
[12:49] <mjr> mediacenter, well, modprobe raid5 also if md_mod isn't sufficient
[12:49] <Cyrus25801> Trunkz: i didn't always have this problem with firefox/mozilla it started about 2 weeks ago
[12:50] <robdeman> folks
[12:50] <marcin_> dziki
[12:50] <robdeman> I need some help with understanding how the libs on Ubuntu work
[12:50] <mediacenter> am i supposed to get any kind of output from raid5?
[12:50] <mediacenter> erm
[12:50] <Trunkz> Quintin: You sir.. are a genious xD
[12:50] <dabaR> frojnd: why do you need to have an image format? does html work?
[12:50] <mediacenter> modprobe
[12:50] <ElementC> robdeman: elaborate.
[12:50] <Quintin> Trunkz: Yes.  I am.  Thank you for noticing.
[12:51] <Trunkz> lol :p
[12:51] <Quintin> Trunkz: glxinfo | grep rendering   ?
[12:51] <mjr> mediacenter, no
[12:51] <Cyrus25801> Trunkz: so i dont see that it can be the chip set
[12:51] <frojnd> dabaR: htm as file?
[12:51] <frojnd> html*
[12:51] <Trunkz> Quintin: yep, I done that.. direct renderin is yes, and fglrxinfo displays my ati goodness ;p
[12:51] <robdeman> when I look in /usr/local/lib I see a stuff like libavutil.so.49.0.0 (actual file) and in the same dir a symbolic link libavutil.so.49. Why is this? I have great trouble installing the Flix Engine on my Ubunti 64bit machine
[12:51] <mediacenter> mjr, what does that do?
[12:51] <mediacenter> !modprobe
[12:51] <Cyrus25801> Trunkz: isn't there another browser i can use
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <mjr> mediacenter, loads the kernel raid5 driver module
[12:52] <Trunkz> cyrus25801: what u mean? :o
[12:52] <mediacenter> hm
[12:52] <dabaR> frojnd: pdf -> html
[12:52] <mediacenter> well, it still isn't working
[12:52] <puff> dabaR: lsof says:  esd     4946 puff    5w   CHR   14,3      9383 /dev/dsp
[12:52] <robdeman> folks: what do you guys make of this http://www.on2.com/support-resources/on2-flix-faq/enginefaq-linux/#1-4
[12:52] <Trunkz> Aight.. I'll get tvtime working tomorow * yawn *
[12:52] <Trunkz> its nearly 12pm here
[12:53] <robdeman> it says: yes we do support 64 bit but 'you need to extract and install the 64 bit libs manually'
[12:53] <Cyrus25801> Trunkz: my system is fine only firefox haning and the problem started about 2 weeks ago. so i dont see that it can be the chipset
[12:53] <dabaR> puff: then double click on your sound icon in the top right, and see whether anything is muted.
[12:53] <ElementC> robdeman: the symlinks are there just in case a program from another platform looks for them frst. Some do.
[12:53] <Trunkz> Cyrus25801: Try opera :)
[12:53] <jexdawg> how can i control rhythmbox through a panel? is there an applet i can install, or an option through rhythmbox?
[12:53] <Yodude> trunkz: i deleted the corrupt .gpg files from /etc/apt
[12:53] <mjr> mediacenter, hmh, /dev/md/0 ?
[12:53] <Cyrus25801> Trunkz: will do
[12:53] <Trunkz> Yodude: u fixed ur problem? :P
[12:53] <Yodude> trunkz: no lol i just need now to redownload the good ones
[12:53] <mediacenter> mjr, same error
[12:53] <robdeman> ElementC: ok.. I cnat build the PHP language bindings b/c the build script cant find the right libflixengine2
[12:53] <Trunkz> Yodude: goto ubuntuguide.org, and use the repo list from there
[12:54] <Trunkz> Yodude: its what I use =)
[12:54] <Trunkz> couple more minutes, then I'ma hit the sack folks :)
[12:54] <dabaR> !rhythmbox-applet
[12:54] <ubotu> rhythmbox-applet: control applet for Rhythmbox music player (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-2build1 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 48 kB
[12:54] <sk8erdude> hi
[12:54] <robdeman> ElementC: how would I 'extract amdn install the librrary manually' as they write at http://www.on2.com/support-resources/on2-flix-faq/enginefaq-linux/#1-4
[12:54] <nickreynolds> ok i'm trying to do a remote desktop from a windows machine to unbuntu machine that has only a power cord and a network attached to it. The wiki says to do a remote desktop using VNC i need to have an active GNOME session. Seeing is I don't have anything hooked up to it how would do that. When I log into my username via SSH does that also mean I have a GNOME session on
[12:54] <patrick_> anyone able to install gnomad2 and use it with a creative zen?
[12:54] <sk8erdude> i recently tried dual-booting ubuntu with windows xp
[12:54] <Quintin> nickreynolds: no it does not.
[12:55] <robdeman> nickreynolds: no
[12:55] <sk8erdude> and when i started to resze the partition on the installer on the live cd
[12:55] <nickreynolds> hmmm
[12:55] <robdeman> nickreynolds: statr gone by typing 'gnome-session'
[12:55] <sk8erdude> the installer stood there
[12:55] <Trunkz> nickreynolds: make sure a vnc server is running on that ubuntu box, and use tightvnc on ur windows box to connect to it :)
[12:55] <sk8erdude> i rebooted
[12:55] <Quintin> nickreynolds: you need to setup VNC to run on x server 1 to do what you want.  or autologin a user and use desktop sharing.  but remote desktop is for weenies, use ssh.
[12:55] <sk8erdude> and windows started checking my disks
[12:55] <dabaR> sk8erdude: you really think someone can read your one sentence on 6 lines?
[12:55] <Trunkz> nickreynolds: using ssh wont give u a gnome session, it'll give u a terminal/console session
[12:55] <sk8erdude> from now on i only see 15gb of space on my disk
[12:55] <mediacenter> mjr: i followed these instructions exactly: http://mywheel.net/blog/index.php/software-raid-in-ubuntu/
[12:55] <james296> how can I upgrade directly from Edgy Eft to Feisty Fawn?
[12:56] <mediacenter> does that skip a step or something?
[12:56] <squeaks> all tutorials i've found at ubuntuforums for virtual machines use qemu, what are the packages xserver-xorg-video-vmware and vmware-player for in the repositories for?
[12:56] <puff> dabaR: Already checked it, but checking it again, no mute checkbox of any kind.  Right-click shows a "mute" option which is un-checked.  Checked it and unchecked it, no change that I can see.
[12:56] <dabaR> !upgrade | james296
[12:56] <ubotu> james296: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:56] <Quintin> james296: You can do that when it's released.
[12:56] <Trunkz> james296: change ur sources.list to reflect feisty fawn, and do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:56] <dabaR> !feisty > james296
[12:56] <sk8erdude> what should i do to get rid of that linux partition that i cannot find at all
[12:56] <Quintin> squeaks: vmware?
[12:56] <sk8erdude> i have a 40gb hd
[12:56] <[reed] > When is the release date for Feisty?
[12:56] <diezare> guys, anyone here have experience with murrine?
[12:56] <PwcrLinux> april 2007
[12:56] <Quintin> squeaks: I mean it's a shot in the dark, really guessing here, but I think *maybe* they go with that...
[12:56] <ljlolel> [reed] : april
[12:56] <mediacenter> reed: april
[12:56] <[reed] > k
[12:56] <Trunkz> reed: errm, 1st april 2007 :P
[12:56] <squeaks> Quintin, is qemu preferred over vmware?
[12:56] <pepesmith> !fiesty > pepesmith
[12:56] <james296> but I remember there was a way to upgrade from Dapper Drake to the unstable version of Edgy Eft
[12:57] <dabaR> !enter > sk8erdude
[12:57] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Please could any take step by step howto install flashplayer to OPERA on ubuntu5,1. mozilla ff was np but when trying on Opera:  http://quad.mine.nu/Sk%c3%a4rmdump.png
[12:57] <phaidros> squeaks, depends on the needs
[12:57] <Quintin> squeaks: depends on what you want to do.  I use vmware for all my virtualization needs.
[12:57] <phaidros> squeaks, qemu is full soft emu you can do alot with it
[12:57] <Quintin> ITS_FOR_REAL: I assume you've tried google?
[12:57] <Trunkz> squeeks: Everyone here uses a "naughty" version of vmware *cough*
[12:57] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Quintin, o yes
[12:57] <bard> squeaks, if you CPU support kvm i would go with it
[12:57] <phaidros> squeaks, vmware is more bloated and maybe more handy or convenient with handling alot of virtual machines
[12:57] <Yodude> trunkz: lol i'm tired of this GPG i'll forget about it for a while
[12:57] <Trunkz> Yodude: lol xD
[12:57] <phaidros> bard, is kvm already there?
[12:58] <Yodude> trunkz: but hey do you know how can i get banshee 0.11.6?
[12:58] <bard> phaedra, yes
[12:58] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Quintin, i wouldnt be sitting here spamming every 15 minutes if it was it easysolved via google :P
[12:58] <bard> phaedra, or feisty has it
[12:58] <Yodude> trunkz: cuz the old 0.11.1 available at the repo just sucks
[12:58] <Trunkz> Aight folks.. its time for me to say bye bye, till tomorow xD.. catch u laters :P (yodude, apt-get is ur friend, google is ur wife, and #ubuntu is yo slaves :P)
[12:58] <avalo1> hi there, can someone help with an networkmanager <-> sama issue ?
[12:58] <bard> dont know about egdy
[12:58] <phaidros> Yodude, maybe find an (unsupported!! careful!) repository having a new .deb
[12:58] <sk8erdude> im sorry dabar
[12:58] <Quintin> ITS_FOR_REAL: some people here don't know google exists.. just checking. :)
[12:58] <sk8erdude> im new at irc
[12:58] <Quintin> Trunkz: later
[12:58] <squeaks> bard, kvm is the vmware kernel module?
[12:58] <dabaR> sk8erdude: you do not need to be sorry.
[12:58] <Trunkz> Yodude: download the source for banshee, do ./configure , then make, then sudo make install.. providing u have all the necessary dependencies
[12:58] <sk8erdude> i just cam in to get some help
[12:58] <puff> dabaR: Hm, odd, I just went to try to play a song in rhythmbox after checking/unchecking mute, and I notice that rhythmbox apepars to not want ot actually play the song.
[12:59] <torbit> Quintin, I guess I have grub installed now, it's booting, but with none of my OSes added
[12:59] <Trunkz> Quintin: later quintin, thanks for your help ^_^ .. (NIGHT FOLKS =P.. I'll leave u in the capable hands of quintin and co.)
[12:59] <phaidros> k. gtg.
[12:59] <ctothej> What is a good direct connect client i can use?
[12:59] <phaidros> c ya
[12:59] <patrick_> anyone able to install gnomad2 and use it with a creative zen?
[12:59] <bard> squeaks, kvm is support for intel and amd vurialization
[12:59] <Quintin> Trunkz: You're welcome
[12:59] <Trunkz> oh, and can someone help puff.. I forgot about him (sorry puffy ;p)
[12:59] <dabaR> sk8erdude: of course. So ask a question in one line, and we will be glad to help. It is very busy, so it is impossible to read your question on 10 lines with 20 other people's lines in between each one of yours.
[12:59] <puff> Trunkz: No sweat, dabaR has been trying.
[12:59] <gop> hi
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> I just installed beryl, but my desktop only shows white, nothing else, i can scroll between them, etc, but its all white, no menus, icons, etc.
[12:59] <dabaR> puff: what song?
[01:00] <Quintin> torbit: use a livecd to chroot into your ubuntu and do 'update-grub' to get a list for the ubuntu entries.  you'll have to add the windows ones manually.
[01:00] <ctothej> IndyGunFreak: go to #ubuntu-effects
[01:00] <dabaR> puff: sorry, what .extension?
[01:00] <andre_> hello everyone,  How do I uninstall my nvidia drivers from nvidia.com?
[01:00] <Yodude> phaidros: well i can get the tar.gz file
[01:00] <torbit> Quintin, how do you use chroot?
[01:00] <nickreynolds> hey is vnc-common the server
[01:00] <nickreynolds> i did a aptitude search
[01:00] <torbit> in the livecd now, at a terminal
[01:00] <Quintin> torbit: chroot /some/mount/point /bin/bash
[01:00] <Yodude> phaidros: is that enough to install the newer version?
[01:00] <puff> dabaR: Any song in my library... if I double-click on a song title in rhythmbox,it switches to that song (all mp3s), but the time marker doesn't move.  If I click on the "Play" button it changes the title bar to say "(paused)" after the song title.
[01:00] <Apollyon_> !nv | andre_
[01:00] <ubotu> andre_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:01] <Quintin> Apollyon_: he said remove.. does that guide cover that?
[01:01] <dabaR> puff: what about right clicking on one of the songs in the nautlus file manager, and selecting open with movie player?
[01:01] <Quintin> I have to go for a few minutes to migrate my install to new SATA disk.  be back in a bit, hopefully
[01:01] <robdeman> hey folks
[01:02] <robdeman> my mak etool complains flixengine2.so 'file format not recognized'. How can I determine if this lib is a valid Ubuntu / 64 bit lib?
[01:02] <dabaR> nickreynolds: aptitude search vnc
[01:02] <nickreynolds> yes that us what  i did
[01:02] <Vuen> hi #ubuntu, what can i use to make vmware images?
[01:02] <dabaR> well, there are several vnc servers that I get here...
[01:02] <patrick_> anyone able to install gnomad2 and use it with a creative zen?
[01:03] <Vuen> i want to install Windows 98 inside VMWare player. how can i do this?
[01:03] <DLB|Maximus> im in need of some help getting my wired and wireless cards to play nice, when i used suse my wired card had an ip of 192.168.1.5 and the wireless 192.168.1.6, and suse made sure only one card was active at a time, any ideas how i can do this in ubuntu?
[01:03] <nickreynolds> and vnc-common says it is a vnc server software, so i believe i have found the package i need to run a vnc server
[01:03] <nickreynolds> i just want to be sure
[01:03] <sk8erdude> i installed ubuntu on my computer from the live disk using the install icon on the desktop. when it came to the partition part, i resized the disk to the appropriate space. after i hit next, the installer froze. panicking, i turned off my computer. i wanted to dual-boot with windows xp. after i rebooted after that problem i got with the installe, windows started checking my disk. after this everything was back to normal (som
[01:03] <puff> dabaR: Works!  Hm.  Very odd.
[01:03] <bard> Vuen, you need vmware workstation or server, the server is fre
[01:03] <bard> free*
[01:03] <Vuen> ah.
[01:03] <Quintin> sk8erdude: *never* turn off a machine that is resizing a partition
[01:03] <daviey> Vuen, or even just the player
[01:03] <dabaR> puff: something with the rhythmbox. It worked before?
[01:03] <sk8erdude> eeek
[01:03] <puff> dabaR: Yeah, worked fine before.
[01:04] <dabaR> sk8erdude: but your windows still works, right?
[01:04] <comicinker> hi, is anybody using "simple backup"?
[01:04] <Quintin> Vuen: google it.  there are free .vmx generators
[01:04] <sk8erdude> well the installer didnt show that it was partitioning
[01:04] <Apollyon_> Quintin: No. It doesn't.
[01:04] <torbit> still not working, but I think I know what i need to do..bbl
[01:04] <Hal> is anyone here a CCNA or CCNP?
[01:04] <daviey> Vuen, google for easyvmx
[01:04] <sk8erdude> yes my windows still works
[01:04] <bard> daviey, the player cant create images)
[01:04] <bard> ?
[01:04] <daviey> bard, google for easyvmx
[01:04] <Apollyon_> Quintin: But should cover
[01:04] <andre_> I've installed the nvidia drivers and everytime I reboot my machine, I have to reinstall them.  Can anyone help me?
[01:04] <puff> dabaR: Hm, think I'll try clearing out rhythmbox and reimporting my library.
[01:04] <dabaR> sk8erdude: resend the message from the "(som" part. it got cut off.
[01:04] <dabaR> puff: you can. Good luck.
[01:05] <sk8erdude> i installed ubuntu on my computer from the live disk using the install icon on the desktop. when it came to the partition part, i resized the disk to the appropriate space. after i hit next, the installer froze. panicking, i turned off my computer. i wanted to dual-boot with windows xp. after i rebooted after that problem i got with the installe, windows started checking my disk. after this everything was back to normal (som
[01:05] <sk8erdude> can you read this
[01:05] <sk8erdude> or do i have to use some sort of pastebin?
[01:05] <Hallage> Yes
[01:05] <Vuen> sk8erdude: yes
[01:05] <sk8erdude> ok good
[01:05] <andre_> appolyon_: !nv doesn't give any info on how to remove them... I know there is an option with the installer to uninstall
[01:05] <puff> Only major change I can think of is that I recently started using amarok to try to mangae my ipod nano (semi-successfully;  can move audio onto / off of the nano, but apparently can't set up playlists).
[01:05] <Vuen> Quintin, daviey: thanks
[01:05] <puff> However, amarok can't play mp3s, says something about the void engine.
[01:05] <dabaR> sk8erdude: try the pastebin, or break up your message from at the (
[01:05] <sk8erdude> so the problem is that windows is only recognizing 15 gb out of 40 gb
[01:05] <Apollyon_> andre_: I saw it. Sorry
[01:06] <sk8erdude> how do i use pastebin?
[01:06] <jojoman02> puff have you tried hipo?
[01:06] <Hallage> I recently installed Javae, the Java Runtime Environment, and all accompanying files, via Synaptic Package Manager. However, Java still runs as slow as a very slow thing, and I cannot enter text on one particular game that I play which is java based. I have gotten Java to work fully and perfectly on Ubuntu before. How do I fix this?
[01:06] <dabaR> puff: libxine-extracodecs is what you need, IIRC.
[01:06] <jojoman02> !pastebin
[01:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:06] <Yodude> !pastebin | sk8erdude
[01:06] <ubotu> sk8erdude: please see above
[01:06] <sk8erdude> !pastebin i installed ubuntu on my computer from the live disk using the install icon on the desktop. when it came to the partition part, i resized the disk to the appropriate space. after i hit next, the installer froze. panicking, i turned off my computer. i wanted to dual-boot with windows xp. after i rebooted after that problem i got with the installe, windows started checking my disk. after this everything was back to n
[01:07] <puff> jojoman02: Hipo?
[01:07] <sk8erdude> did it work?
[01:07] <puff> dabaR: Yah, will apt it.
[01:07] <dabaR> sk8erdude: well, you will need to delete the partition that ubuntu created, and there are a few programs that can do that. I know of gparted, and partition magic.
[01:07] <jojoman02> puff yeah it's an ipod management tool made for managing playlists
[01:07] <jonathan_> whats the command to unlock the package manager
[01:07] <Kaso> When i tried to boot i get GRUB error 2, from a liveCD whilst trying to fsck my root drive i get fsck.ext3: Filesystem revision too high while trying to open /dev/hdc1 (Or the filesystem superblock is corrupt)   What opitions are open to me?
[01:07] <wy> Hi, I need some recommendation for an archive manager. The one comes with Gnome seems to be buggy
[01:07] <daviey> jonathan_, unlock, do you mean password?
[01:07] <robdeman> gang: is there a command that lists a directory AND that shows where links point to?
[01:07] <dabaR> sk8erdude: partition magic is non-free, and gparted is at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[01:07] <jonathan_> no i was in middle of package install
[01:08] <daviey> robdeman, ls -l
[01:08] <jojoman02> puff, http://www.gnome.org/~pvillavi/hipo/
[01:08] <jonathan_> and had to force quit it
[01:08] <jonathan_> and now its locked
[01:08] <squeaks> comicinker, i have been using simple backup
[01:08] <daviey> robdeman, sorry ls --full
[01:08] <puff> jojoman02: Will check it out, thanks.
[01:08] <jonathan_> var something fuser
[01:08] <Hallage> I recently installed Java, the Java Runtime Environment, and all accompanying files, via Synaptic Package Manager. However, Java still runs as slow as a very slow thing, and I cannot enter text on one particular game that I play which is java based. I have gotten Java to work fully and perfectly on Ubuntu before. How do I fix it this time around?
[01:08] <robdeman> kool! thx!!
[01:08] <jojoman02> sk8erdude, if you don't know what you're doing use partition magic from hiren's boot cd, it's available on mininova and u burn it like the ubuntu cd
[01:09] <patrick_> hey does anyone have a creative mp3 player?
[01:09] <Apollyon_> andre_: Look here http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[01:09] <patrick_> i cannot get mine to work with ubuntu
[01:09] <jonathan_> my synaptic package manager is locked how do i unlock it in shell
[01:09] <hans0lo> I am trying to install AMD64 Ubuntu Edgy onto a new system. After booting with the CD, and seeing some kernel messages, the screen goes black, and nothing happens... I tried testing the memory, which passes, CPU temp is at an acceptable level..
[01:09] <dabaR> Hallage: show us update-alternatives --display java
[01:09] <jojoman02> jonathan_ why not just restart or ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:09] <jonathan_> tried it
[01:09] <Apollyon_> patrick_: What do you mean by creative?
[01:09] <jonathan_> doesnt unlock it
[01:09] <hans0lo> I also tried to run the CD test, which also goes to a black screen and halts.
[01:10] <puff> I haven't dist-upgraded in a while... how dangerous is it?
[01:10] <hans0lo> Does anyone have some advice?
[01:10] <Hallage> dabaR: Eh? Im clueless
[01:10] <dabaR> puff: use the update-manager.
[01:10] <sk8erdude> well i used gpart on the ubuntu live cd and found that the drive was in one piece
[01:10] <puff> I've had problems in the past, with debian, where dist-upgrading broke all sorts of stuff.  Hence my paranoia.
[01:10] <Hallage> dabaR: Care to explain?
[01:10] <jojoman02> puff how dangerous is what?
[01:10] <patrick_> apollyon: creative labs
[01:10] <arrenlex> What's that command to push the top argument off the argument stack in a bash script?
[01:10] <comicinker> squeaks: simple backup in combination with ntfs?
[01:10] <patrick_> i have a creative zen v
[01:10] <dabaR> Hallage: open a terminal, and run update-alternatives --display java, then show us the output on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:10] <squeaks> comicinker, no, sorry
[01:10] <daviey> puff, the cascades are good at the moment; i'd recommend either using udate manager or aptitude though
[01:10] <puff> jojoman02: Dist-upgrading.
[01:11] <dabaR> sk8erdude: one piece for sure? Can you take some screenshots if you are not sure, and come back?
[01:11] <puff> daviey: Okay.  Why?
[01:11] <juano__> hello everyone!
[01:11] <Apollyon_> puff: it is a little dangerous. Better to backup before doing that :-)
[01:12] <puff> daviey: I tend to use aptitude.  dabaR said to use update-manager.
[01:12] <jojoman02> puff, why are you dist-upgrading? that is only if u wanna go to feisty, i don't suggest using it even tho i hear it's very stable, it has it's 4th alpha release
[01:12] <rylasasin_> hey it seems as if theres a i686 kernel on this box. any way to put it back to i386?
[01:12] <puff> Apollyon_: what's the recommended backup app? (tried just "tar -zxf /usb/bighokingusbdrive" but that ran for 10-30 minutes nad then spat out a lot of odd errors).
[01:13] <TN> HI im having a problem with my drop down screens
[01:13] <puff> jojoman02: I'm on dapper.  Every time I use aptitudeit lists a bunch of packages that have been held back.
[01:13] <sk8erdude> well the screenshot i will show you is from windows xp using the disk management application
[01:13] <daviey> puff, apt-get will leave dist-upgrade stuff behind and doesn't satisfy dependecies as well as aptitude.
[01:13] <linxeh> argh bloody restricted modules upgrades always screw the nvidia drivers at next boot
[01:14] <dabaR> What's that command for checking what kernel is installed?
[01:14] <puff> daviey: Really?  And here I thought aptitude was just a nicer interface.
[01:14] <sk8erdude> dabaR: i am sending you the screenshot
[01:14] <sk8erdude> please accept the file
[01:14] <daviey> puff, and for what it's worth, aptitude will also autoclean automatically
[01:15] <puff> daviey: I still want somebody (or eventually I do it myself) to hack some comment stuff into apttiude.  I'd like to be able to make a note as to why I installed something, and have it automatically note when it installs it as a dependency.
[01:15] <juano__> dabaR: ls /boot
[01:15] <puff> abyss: Hm, aptitude install libxine-extracodecs says it's installed already.
[01:15] <dabaR> sk8erdude: I do not know how to do that on IRC. http://imageshack.us/
[01:15] <puff> daviey: What's your estimate of riskiness of dist-upgrading?
[01:15] <dabaR> There is a real command.
[01:15] <lordkeiden_> is there a way to tell grub to hide a partition?
[01:15] <dabaR> I can't eblieve I can not remember it.
[01:16] <juano__> dabaR: well that will show all the kernel images you have installed
[01:16] <linxeh> puff: that sounds like a really good idea
[01:16] <linopil> nautilus is a pain
[01:16] <Kaso> my ext3 root partition seems to have gotten a bad superblock, e2fsck doesnt seem to want to help, is there anything else i can do?
[01:16] <linxeh> puff: although I think a wrapper around aptitude would be better
[01:17] <dabaR> rylasasin_: run uname -a
[01:17] <linopil> nautilus won let me copy  paste current directory
[01:17] <nickreynolds> ok people i have another question, sorry for making you my tech support team
[01:17] <sk8erdude> dabaR: http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledcf4.jpg
[01:17] <linxeh> nickreynolds: this is meant to be the tech support team :)
[01:17] <daviey> puff, do you want to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[01:17] <linopil> nickreynolds:  no need to apologize no Microsoft here
[01:17] <puff> daviey: I suspect I do, is edgy stable now?
[01:18] <daviey> puff, well stable
[01:18] <linopil> see nickreynolds
[01:18] <lordkeiden_> is there a way to tell grub to hide a partition?
[01:18] <Apollyon_> puff: just fire up synaptic and search for the word backup and you will see bunches of them :-)
[01:18] <unop> dabaR,  dpkg -S kernel-image ?  or dpkg -l | grep -i kernel-image
[01:18] <sk8erdude> can you see the picture dabaR?
[01:18] <dabaR> uname -a
[01:18] <daviey> !upgrade
[01:18] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:18] <linopil> non-profit brings a lot of profit to you
[01:18] <dabaR> sk8erdude: yes.
[01:18] <puff> daviey: Mainly I want to be up to date and stable, etc.  I ended up stalling for quite a while before upgrading to dapper.  I still have burn marks from debian upgrade problems in the past, so I'm gunshy :-).
[01:18] <sk8erdude> great!
[01:18] <unop> dabaR,  uname -a tells you what you are runnig -- but off course, you might have other kernels installed too
[01:19] <quaal> why can i not check the "show" box in the edit menu list in gnome
[01:19] <dabaR> thanks
[01:19] <daviey> puff, see the upgrade link from ubuntu.  It's safe, thousands of people have done it
[01:19] <nickreynolds> i am connected to the internet via DSL  throught a router. I want to use my ubuntu machine as a firewall, file sharing system, and web server. I would like to make so that  when a terminal connects to my router either by wireless or wire it must authenticated throught the ubuntu machine before it can access files or the internet. Is this possible
[01:20] <sk8erdude> dabaR: do you see my problem
[01:20] <dabaR> sk8erdude: no idea what to do.
[01:20] <puff> daviey: Hm, okay, guess I should upgrade, then.
[01:20] <sk8erdude> does neone here taht can help me with this problem?
[01:20] <TN> gnome minimze issue
[01:20] <sk8erdude> dabaR: you see what my problem is though right?
[01:20] <nickreynolds> i am new so i may ask dumb questions
[01:21] <daviey> puff, your brave ;)  You'll be fine
[01:21] <upd> eany one port scanner for ubuntu
[01:22] <Apollyon_> puff: I also had many problems with debian upgrades. And I had no luck with dapper > edgy 4 times. So I am still using dapper since I will have softwares updates for 3 years. An my system is working greatly. No need to upgrade just now. Perhaps I will try a big leap from dapper to feisty. Still thinking about :-)
[01:23] <HP_Vue> I am working on ubuntu on Ipod
[01:24] <Arcterex> hey all
[01:24] <nickreynolds> i am connected to the internet via DSL  throught a router. I want to use my ubuntu machine as a firewall, file sharing system, email and web server. I would like to make so that  when a workstation connects to my router either by wireless or wire it must authenticated throught the ubuntu machine before it can access files or the internet. These workstations are windows xp based, can such a thing be done and what would it ta
[01:24] <Arcterex> gentoo convert here, but I've got a couple of quick questions first....
[01:24] <sk8erdude> is there newhere else i can get help with my problem?
[01:24] <Apollyon_> nickreynolds: read and study this to became an expert and to avoid dumb questions  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy
[01:25] <Arcterex> is there a "clean" way to do a fiesty install with software raid?
[01:26] <puff> nickreynolds: In general, yes, such a thing can be done.   Should it be done with ubuntu, Idaknow.
[01:26] <Arcterex> debian has it's sweet raid-integrated installer, I'm surprised that ubuntu doesn't have it or appear to anyway
[01:26] <puff> nickreynolds: There are actually specific linux distros for doing just such a thing, which might be better.  I'm not up on this area.  There may actually be ubuntu-based versions of that.
[01:26] <TN> i just upgraded to dapper and have a question,any one
[01:27] <Arcterex> TN - go for it
[01:27] <puff> nickreynolds: In general, you need two network cards in the box, one for the itnernal network and one for the extgernal.
[01:27] <nickreynolds> i figured that and put two in
[01:27] <TN> when i minimize my windows they disapear
[01:27] <whonicca> is there anyway to setup firewall settings for nautilus for ftp browsing?
[01:27] <Arcterex> TN - can you alt-tab to them?
[01:27] <sk8erdude> i guess there is not point to be in here nemore
[01:28] <puff> nickreynolds: Okay then.  So see my previous comment.  I suspect you're better off with a distro that's designed to act as a firewall.
[01:28] <TN> they usualy drop down into small panel boxes, i havnt tryd alt tab
[01:28] <nickreynolds> well ubuntu has a firewall option
[01:28] <puff> Btw, will somebody please tell dabaR "thank you" when he comes by again?
[01:28] <puff> nickreynolds: It does?
[01:28] <bruenig> !firewall
[01:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:28] <Arcterex> anyone know if ubuntu has software raid support built into the installer?
[01:28] <bruenig> !raid
[01:28] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:29] <puff> Oh, you mean it has some ip filtering.  A firewall is a distinct piece of hardware.
[01:29] <Arcterex> ubotu, do I need lvm?
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about do i need lvm? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <nickreynolds> but if there is a specific distro that is made to run a network off one box that would be nice
[01:29] <bruenig> !bot
[01:29] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:29] <nickreynolds> hardware?
[01:29] <Arcterex> ubotu, software raid installer?
[01:29] <nickreynolds> i thought a firewall is software based
[01:30] <nickreynolds> that hardware is simply the two ethernet cards
[01:30] <nickreynolds> or ports
[01:30] <puff> nickreynolds: This modern trend of referring to ip stack applications for doing packet filtering as "firewalls" is really annoying, but.
[01:30] <bruenig> !bot | Arcterex I am a bot, I do not respond to question but factoids, bruenig is controlling me
[01:30] <ubotu> Arcterex I am a bot, I do not respond to question but factoids, bruenig is controlling me: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:31] <puff> nickreynolds: By definition, a firewall is a distinct piece of hardware that *just* takes packets in one side and puts them out the other.  The idea of a firewall being an application you install on the machine you're trying to protect is oxymoronic and confuses the issue.  Sadly, this usage of the term has caught on in the public mind.  However, if you're talking about serious network protection, you should probably learn the r
[01:31] <puff> ight terms :-).
[01:32] <puff> nickreynolds: "software firewall" is oxymoronic because the whole idea of a firewall is that you have a machine that enforces access policies and has nothing else installed on it, and no other way for anyone but the administrator to interact with it.
[01:32] <nickreynolds> so then the firewall inside  my linux linksys router is not actually a firewall
[01:33] <whonicca> nickreynolds, thing is the ftp mi trying to browse, i have to bind my external ip to log onto it
[01:33] <puff> nickreynolds: Software firewalls are inherently less secure than real firewalls, because they live in the same ecosystem as the OS and apps  that might be compromised, and are hence dependent on that OS and apps.
[01:33] <mqueiros> anybody tried to run kernel 2.6.20 on dapper ?
[01:33] <gw3n> hi
[01:33] <Pie-rate> is there a GOOD torrent client for linux? azureus is total bloated garbage, rtorrent is working but is running in a terminal and there's no way to control it (and it lost my torrent after it was closed)...
[01:33] <bruenig> !hi | gw3n
[01:33] <ubotu> gw3n: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:33] <bruenig> Pie-rate, utorrent through wine
[01:33] <puff> nickreynolds: Technically, no. It's more of a firewall than a software firewall, though.  This is not to say that hter is _no_ value in something like zonealarm, security should be an in-depth thing.
[01:34] <gw3n> thks
[01:34] <whonicca> whats the best ftp client out for nix
[01:34] <whonicca> gftp is garbage
[01:34] <clearzen> when you set up a pptp tunnel do you have to have addresses reserved for each simultaneous client on a pptp tunnel?
[01:34] <puff> nickreynolds: I think you'd get far less grief from network administrators for calling your linksys router a firewall than for calling zonealarm a firewall :-)".
[01:34] <Pie-rate> bruenig: lol... you'd think there'd be a decent native one
[01:35] <torbit> ok...who was I talking to before about grub? and booting?
[01:35] <bruenig> well for rss filtering which is a must for me, there is nothing better than that
[01:35] <torbit> heh, can't remember your name :O
[01:36] <bruenig> ktorrent if you compile it and get the rss plugin works but all it will only automatically save if you have set the preference for all torrents to automatically save to a particular directory
[01:36] <nickreynolds> puff: I see what your saying, if i use the same machine for my firewall and my web server  it could comprimised from an outside source via the web server. Then my local network would be vunerable. A firewall should be one box and nothing else but a firewall
[01:36] <jahid> can anyone tell me a better firewall for ubuntu? better in a sence of easy maintaining and better working
[01:36] <speef> So I got ndiswrapper working and am connecting to unsecured wireless networks, but it seems like resolving hosts takes forever.  In both firefox and xchat the delay of "looking up servername" is very noticeable, any ideas what could be causing this latency?
[01:36] <puff> nickreynolds: Bingo.
 thanks the alt tab helped,i hav a million programs running at once
[01:37] <puff> nickreynolds: Though security is _always_ a question of tradeoffs and "How secure is it?" rather than "is it secure or not?".  These days it's far more common to see general-purpose firewall/gateway/router/proxy/printserver boxes.
[01:37] <puff> And hey, something is better than nothing.
[01:37] <puff> nickreynolds: http://security.linux.com/security/05/03/08/197207.shtml?tid=127&tid=35
[01:37] <puff> Review of smoothwall, a friend of mine spoke highly of that, IRRC.
[01:38] <tripppy> i use ipcop
[01:38] <Arcterex> TN - you probably need to right click on your panel and add the task list applet (assuming you're in gnome)
[01:38] <TN> yeah im on gnome
[01:38] <Arcterex> TN do you have a panel running?
[01:38] <GMWeezel> Whenever I run an OpenGL application I get this error: 'Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".' I had it fixed before but I'm not sure how.
[01:38] <daviey> puff, tripppy ; we are starting to float off topic
[01:39] <bruenig> starting, ha
[01:39] <TN> yeah with four desktops
[01:39] <Arcterex> TN - right click on it, choose add to panel and then select the window list
[01:39] <puff> daviey: Yeah, thanks.  I'll stop my ranting now :-).
[01:39] <tripppy> ive been told ubuntu is good for mythtv, what apps run well under ubuntu?
[01:39] <emet> yo
[01:39] <RememberPOL> So, I'm using alberto milone's bleeding edge nvidia driver repository... and something weird just happened. My laptop froze and upon restarting, x complained about some nvidia module version mismatch so I removed nvidia-kernel-commond, removed nvidia-glx, installed nvidia-kernel-common, installed nvidia-glx, and now x is complaining it can't load the NVIDIA module because of some missing module it's trying to load "wfb", even though tha
[01:39] <puff> daviey: It would be nice for there to be a definitive ubuntu-based dedicated firewall spinoff, though.
[01:39] <Apollyon_> jahid: iptables, shorewall, guarddog, firestarter
[01:39] <Comrade-Sergei> !restricted
[01:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:39] <emet> how do I pipe the output of a command to the arguements of another command
[01:39] <jahid> Apollyon_, ok
[01:39] <tripppy> puff, i agree
[01:39] <torbit> litheum, was I talking to you earlier?
[01:39] <capiCrimm> anyone know where gnome's menu configuration file is?
[01:39] <Apollyon_> !iptables| jahid
[01:39] <ubotu> jahid: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:40] <Arcterex> emet, command | command2
[01:40] <Arcterex> emet, what are you trying to do?
[01:40] <emet> Arcterex: to the arguements tho
[01:40] <LjL> emet: you don't. you can only pipe it to the other program's *input*. however, some (many?) programs accept a single dash "-" as meaning "use standard input instead of a file"
[01:40] <Arcterex> emet, command `command1`
[01:40] <emet> k I'll try that
[01:40] <TN> <Arcterex your the bees knees thanks man
[01:40] <high-freq> nick/ hf-hoe
[01:40] <Arcterex> emet,  ie: rm `ls *.ini`
[01:41] <Arcterex> TN, np dude
[01:41] <vik> is there a 'nice' way to change web proxy settings based on which wireless (or wired) network you are connected to? Like something based on IP address?
[01:41] <puff> vik: Yeah,there's an app specifically for this.
[01:41] <vik> puff: woohoo! is it in the repositories?
[01:41] <emet> like this?
[01:41] <emet>  ls | grep Desktop 'cd'
[01:41] <Apollyon_> !cli | emet
[01:41] <ubotu> emet: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:41] <LjL> emet: ah wait, if you meant using the 1st command's output as the *arguments themselves*, then what Arcterex said is correct. i was thinking about using the first command's output as the other command's input file, only said input file being decided by an argument
[01:41] <RememberPOL> http://rafb.net/p/GEjYlC82.txt
[01:42] <emet> like if I am home directory
[01:42] <LjL> emet: uhm, no, that doesn't make much sense... what do you want it to do?
[01:42] <emet> how do I get to Desktop
[01:42] <LjL> emet: besides, it's `` not '', that's quite different
[01:42] <emet> I want to pipe the output of grep to the arugements of cd
[01:42] <LjL> emet: also, use $(   ) instead of `  ` anyway, since the latter is deprecated
[01:42] <hafman> Hi, i need a small non-gui program to burn a image to a disk. any suggetstion?
[01:42] <torbit> ok, to anyone who wasn't following last time I was in here, i have ubuntu installed onto a sata drive, can't boot directly from it because my motherboard doesn't have sata built in, anyways, i got grub installed and working on another partition of my main ide drive, shared with windows, and now it boots, and i've gotten it to show a list of operating systems (windows xp, ubuntu). problem is, the windows one works, ubuntu
[01:42] <puff> vik:  Yeah, I"m trying to remember what it's called.
[01:42] <Arcterex> LjL, really?  huh, learn something new every day
[01:42] <Apollyon_> !cli | emet
[01:42] <ubotu> emet: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:42] <LjL> emet: so you want to find the directory whose name contains Desktop, and cd to it?
[01:42] <bruenig> emet, that would be cd `ls | grep Desktop`
[01:42] <GMWeezel> How do I install the XLib GLX extension?
[01:43] <LjL> Arcterex: everybody's still using them, i admit i use them myself, but yeah they're deprecated
[01:43] <emet> ok yes
[01:43] <torbit> when I try to launch the ubuntu one (which says /dev/sda2 in the description, which is correct), it says device not found, or something similar
[01:43] <LjL> emet: yeah, what he said.
[01:43] <puff> vik:  Wait, _proxy_ settings? Like in firefox?
[01:43] <emet> that worked bruenig
[01:43] <emet> and $() also works
[01:43] <emet> thanks guys
[01:43] <LjL> emet: it won't work if grep returns more than one result, though, i suppose
[01:44] <vik> either firefox or gnome or the http_proxy env variable
[01:44] <vik> puff: yep, either firefox or gnome or the http_proxy env variable
[01:44] <puff> vik: I may have to take that back, the tool I was thinking about was for changing your netowrk settings in general based on what network you were in.
[01:44] <LjL> emet: perhaps you want grep to stop at the first match (i don't remember the option for that, but it's there in the manpage). also, remember that grep Desktop will match any name that *contains* "Desktop", not just names that *are* exactly Desktop
[01:44] <puff> vik: Hm, wonder how the http_proxy env could be modified in real time, considering you'd have to get at the process that's using the env variable.
[01:44] <bruenig> If there are more than one it will go to the first one
[01:45] <vik> puff: it still might be useful if it has hooks to add a script in
[01:45] <capiCrimm> anyone know where I could find the file that contains the cmds in the gnome menu?
[01:45] <emet> LjL: "grep -i" removes case sensitive I think
[01:45] <Apollyon_> emet: for cli on-line help try /join #bash   :-)
[01:45] <hafman> Hi, i need a small non-gui program to burn a image to a disk. any suggetstion?
[01:45] <exs> guys, My video stopped working for no reason at all. I'm just seeing blue!.... I'm using VLC and it was working only 10 minutes ago. Anything I can do?.. the output has to be set on X11 for it to work
[01:45] <bruenig> hafman, is it cd or dvd?
[01:45] <LjL> emet: yep it does, if you do "grep -i Desktop" it will match "desktop" too
[01:45] <hafman> bruenig: cd
[01:45] <puff> vik: Off the cuff, I'd probably set up a local port as the proxy address, and then have netcat running on that port and forwarding to whatever proxy you're actualyl using.  Then you'd just need to use some script to retarget netcat.
[01:45] <emet> and you can use a regular expression to do same hting
[01:45] <bruenig> hafman, cdrecord dev=/dev/whatever diskimage.iso
[01:45] <LjL> emet: but it will also match "thisismydesktop". if you don't want that, try  grep ^Desktop$ 
[01:46] <vik> puff: true; any solution will probably involve restarting network apps.
[01:46] <emet> yah
[01:46] <emet> that regular expression
[01:46] <hafman> bruenig: ah, nice ty ;D
[01:46] <puff> vik:  One sec, I think I once filed a bug report on it, I'll see if I can find it in the bug tracker.
[01:46] <hafman> cdrecord dev=/dev/whatever diskimage.isocdrecord dev=/dev/whatever diskimage.iso
[01:46] <emet> powerful stuff
[01:46] <exs> ok, i got it working, reset the settings
[01:46] <hafman> ops ;P
[01:46] <vik> How does the gnome network proxy settings work? I know it sets $http_proxy, but does it also keep it somewhere else?
[01:47] <LjL> vik: some programs *may* look at $HTTP_PROXY as well. don't know about GNOME
[01:47] <protocol2> is there a reason why I cant get an IP address
[01:47] <emet> the shebang for a shell script is #!/bin/sh ?
[01:47] <bruenig> protocol2, probably is
[01:47] <LjL> emet: yes. actually, put a space after the exclamation mark if you want to be very compatible with other Unices
[01:47] <bruenig> emet, yeah or #!/bin/bash is what I usually go with, not sure of the difference exactly
[01:48] <protocol2> everything is connected or wired in but I cant get an IP
[01:48] <LjL> emet: also, if you use Bash specific features, what bruenig said
[01:48] <rio_> is it possible to transfer files from ubuntu to an external ntfs file system?
[01:48] <protocol2> my modem is working properly too I just checked
[01:48] <LjL> rio_: yes but it might be dangerous
[01:48] <LjL> !fuse > rio_    (rio_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:48] <puff> nickreynolds: Alternatively, you may find this howto useful:  http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu6.10_firewall_gateway
[01:48] <Hatty> rio_: You can use explore2fs from the ntfs system
[01:49] <emet> ok so bash works with standard input and standard output ?
[01:49] <Hatty> emet: yes
[01:49] <PS_> hi, does anyone know how to map another key to emulate the windows key that's missing from my IBM Thinkpad?
[01:49] <clearzen> !pptp
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <emet> ooo
[01:49] <rio_> hrmm... okay thanks LjL, Hatty
[01:49] <emet> so it easy to write programs that extend bash functionality
[01:49] <clearzen> does anyone know where to find howto's on pptp tunnels?
[01:50] <Hatty> emet: YOu mean bash scripting, or altering the behaviour of bash altogether?
[01:50] <LjL> emet, the only commands that bash supports natively are those listed in "help"... all the others are just plain executable programs
[01:50] <nickreynolds> puff: thank you
[01:50] <emet> yah isn't "ls" a program
[01:50] <nickreynolds> i will check it out
[01:50] <LjL> emet: it is, indeed.
[01:50] <emet> but it's all standard input and output ?
[01:50] <LjL> emet: not sure what you mean with that
[01:50] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here help me, I am trying to connect to a microsoft vpn. I have network-manager installed but I can't find a way to connect to my vpn server.
[01:50] <emet> so I can pipe stuff into a program I write with scanf() ?
[01:51] <LjL> emet: maybe. pipes are a bit special (they cannot be seeked, for instance). but generally speaking, yeah
[01:51] <Apollyon_> emet: for cli on-line help try /join #bash   :-)
[01:51] <LjL> emet: but that's not bash specific at all, it's a general feature of Unix
[01:52] <LjL> emet: every program is allocated a standard input, a standard error and a standard output. that's even part of the C standard iirc
[01:52] <emet> right but I'm saying does bash work with the standard input and output or do you have to use their specific api
[01:52] <Hatty> LjL: yeah, stdin, stout, stderr
[01:53] <LjL> emet, i still don't get you. when you type a command, the command can take parameters (those are handled by bash), and it has stdin (keyboard unless you redirect), and stdout/stderr (console unless you redirect). what does bash have to do with this, besides parameters?
[01:53] <daviey> puff, sorry for the delay; i agree.  I considered forking ipcop to work with ubuntu server
[01:53] <emet> arugements are passed by reference by the OS
[01:54] <david> Can someone help me with a Problem IM experiencing???
[01:54] <LjL> emet: yeah, and the parsing is done by bash. still, what's your question? i don't get it
[01:54] <emet> LjL: bash captures the standard output and input is what I mean
[01:54] <LjL> emet: if you, say, want to write a command that emulates the behavior of "cd", that surely can't be done by just writing stuff to stdout
[01:54] <LjL> emet: if it's instructed to capture them by using redirections or pipes, yes
[01:56] <david> Does anyone know how to fix a problem where the Firefox browser keeps shutting down everytime i do anything
[01:56] <LjL> emet: stdout can be redirected using "1>filename" or ">filename", stderr can be redirected using "2>filename" (or "2>&1" to redirect it to stdout), and stdin can be redirected with "<filename". stdin and stdout can also be piped (stderr too, if you redirect it to stdout first), and the $() syntax allows using a program's stdout as part of a bash command itself
[01:56] <LjL> that's the facilities that bash gives, plus globbing of the arguments
[01:57] <puff> vik: The package I was thinking of is named "whereami"
[01:57] <jahid> how to run a ".sh" file in ubuntu? i tried  with "./abc.sh"
[01:57] <puff> vik: Whew,that took a bit of doing to dig up.
[01:57] <LjL> jahid: make it executable first, by using "chmod +x filename"
[01:57] <bruenig> jahid, you need to chmod +x it first
[01:57] <puff> jahid: Dependson whether or not the file's permission bits are set to allow execution.
[01:57] <Flubs> can anyone tell me where php5-dev downloads to when I download it from synaptic?
[01:57] <vik> puff: thanks. I'm thinking of writing a script to put in /etc/network/if-up.d
[01:57] <puff> jahid: Where did the file come from?  If it's set not-executable, it may not be something you want to run :-).
[01:57] <LjL> Flubs: the .deb package itself, or the files it contains?
[01:57] <puff> vik:  That's what whereami hooks into.
[01:58] <jahid> bruenig,
[01:58] <emet> does bash have while/for loops
[01:58] <LjL> Flubs: the package is in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:58] <jahid> bruenig, ok
[01:58] <bruenig> Flubs, the actual package is in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:58] <LjL> Flubs: the files are listed if you do "dpkg -L php5-dev"
[01:58] <bruenig> hmmm
[01:58] <puff> jahid: Another option is "sh ./foo.sh"
[01:58] <nickreynolds> is aptitude a trustworth program for installtions
[01:58] <puff> jahid: Which runs the file as a shell script.
[01:58] <LjL> emet: it sure does, type "help" in bash
[01:58] <puff> nickreynolds: Yes.
[01:58] <jahid> puff, ok
[01:58] <Flubs> great, thanks for all the responses, i'll let you guys know how it goes
[01:58] <nickreynolds> i am looking at the task area of aptitude and noticed the lamp package
[01:59] <puff> nickreynolds: It is generally, AFAIK, the most widely used command-line program.  It's basically a "kinder, gentler apt".
[01:59] <bruenig> I think apt-get is more widely used
[01:59] <LjL> emet, i recommend these two howtos, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html (introductory) http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ (advanced)
[01:59] <puff> jahid: You never did answer my question about where the script file came from.  Generally speaking, be sure you trust the source before you make it exectuable.
[01:59] <puff> bruenig: Okay, so I"m guilty of wishful thinking.
[01:59] <vik> How can I set an enviroment variable at the 'top' level? i.e. so new processes will use it even if they aren't started from  the shell I exported it from?
[01:59] <emet> there may be a bash scripting class in my university this summer
[02:00] <puff> bruenig: Oh, yeah, another thing I'd like to add to aptitude is logging actions to /var/log/apt.log or something.
[02:00] <jahid> puff, it's on my local machine, in my laptop
[02:00] <puff> vik: Generally speaking it depends on what "top" means.
[02:00] <jahid> puff, changing file permission worked fine
[02:00] <LjL> emet: for a quick example of what you asked, try  while true; do echo Hello world; done ,  for Filename in *; do echo Here is a filename: $Filename; done  and  for (( i = 0 ; i < 10 ; i++ )); do echo $i; done 
[02:00] <puff> jahid: Yeah, but where di it come from? Did you write it?  Did you download it?  Did you find it on your machine and wonder what it does?
[02:01] <jahid> puff, i have written it by my own
[02:01] <jahid> but, when i was saving, i saved with sudo
[02:01] <John> ok, can anyone help me share a dial up connection from my XP so that my comp using Ubuntu can use the connection also?
[02:01] <puff> jahid: Ah, in that case you can probably trust the source of the script :-).
[02:01] <jahid> puff, i think so:)
[02:01] <puff> John: "your xp"?
[02:01] <John> yea comp running XP Home SP 2
[02:01] <John> lol srry
[02:02] <emet> LjL: ./hello: line 2: syntax error near unexpected token `,'
[02:02] <emet> ./hello: line 2: `while true; do echo Hello world; done ,  for Filename in *; do echo Here is a filename: $Filename; done  and  for (( i = 0 ; i < 10 ; i++ '
[02:02] <puff> John: Ah, okay, well you're probably better off doing it the other way around.
[02:02] <LjL> emet, it was three separate examples...
[02:02] <vik> puff: well, when I change http_proxy in a shell, it only changes for children of that shell, right? If I change the gnome network proxy, it changes it for children of (I suspect) the gnome 'top' process (or something like that?) So I guess I want to change it at the gnome level, or higher still (init?)
[02:02] <emet> oh
[02:02] <emet> lol
[02:02] <LjL> emet: while true; do echo Hello world; done
[02:02] <John> i can't, my internal modem is not supported :(
[02:02] <LjL> emet: for Filename in *; do echo Here is a filename: $Filename; done
[02:02] <bruenig> that crazy 
[02:02] <Flubs> Ok, i found the php5-dev.deb but I want to know where it puts the source so i can compile to include mysql support
[02:02] <puff> John:  Though in either case you'll need one of the machines to have two network cards.
[02:02] <LjL> emet:  for (( i = 0 ; i < 10 ; i++ )); do echo $i; done
[02:03] <Hui> hello everybody
[02:03] <bruenig> !hi | Hui
[02:03] <ubotu> Hui: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:03] <LjL> emet: still, if you want to glue them together, you can, just use semicolons. (but the first example is an infinite loop, so you'll never get to the other two ;)
[02:03] <zt1`> simple to config a router using this OS ?
[02:03] <emet> who
[02:03] <emet> wow cool stuff LjL
[02:03] <puff> vik: In order:  1) yes, 2) I guess, not familiar with gnome network proxy, but in any event it would generally only change for newly forked processes, unless the gnome network proxy processes have osmething special that checks back in to see if the env variable changed on the parent process.
[02:03] <emet> it ran
[02:04] <emet> gcc hello.c -o hello <-- compile rght ?
[02:04] <nickreynolds> how since some linksys routers use linux as a OS is there a way to ssh into them
[02:04] <puff> John: Come again (re: internal moden)?
[02:04] <LjL> emet, no wonder, entire quite complicated programs are simply written in shellscript. it's far from an elegant language, though ;)
[02:04] <puff> nickreynolds: Might be, depends on whether or not they left ssh in there.
[02:04] <LjL> emet: yeah, that will work, once you have the build-essential package installed
[02:05] <unity> hey, anyone have a guide for disabling iptables in ubuntu 6.10?
[02:05] <John> puff: so how can i do this? i have an ethernet cable linking the two machines and windows says connected
[02:05] <John> but thats as far as i got
[02:05] <turbolover> hey have any of you heard of a performance hit after receiving some updates?
[02:05] <vik> puff: I think gnome apps use the gconf setting, but the network proxy selector app also changes $http_proxy. I'm not overly fussed about the gconf setting (this is easy to change on the fly anyway), but I do need the env var changed high up
[02:05] <Crankeye> ameinke: you wouln't belive it, but its not rebooting again
[02:05] <Megaqwerty> Does gaim support webcams?
[02:05] <patrialt> can someone help me plz, i downloaded a .tar.gz file and im having trouble installing
[02:05] <daviey> turbolover, yes
[02:05] <Crankeye> patrialt: what file did you download
[02:05] <bruenig> unity, I would imagine uninstalling would work
[02:05] <emet> damn the cmd linux in linux is awesome
[02:05] <turbolover> daviey: yeah im having that problem, know how to fix it?
[02:05] <LjL> unity: iptables is a command, it cannot be "disabled". it controls netfilter, which is part of the kernel -- but it doesn't make much sense to disable netfilter. as long as you don't have any rules active (and Ubuntu doesn't by default), it won't do anything
[02:05] <turbolover> broke my vmware too
[02:05] <bruenig> Megaqwerty, I think AMSN does but gaim does not
[02:06] <emet> cmd line
[02:06] <Megaqwerty> thanks
[02:06] <patrialt> crankeye sauerbraten_2006_12_04_gui_edition_linux.tar.gz
[02:06] <patrialt> it's a fps
[02:06] <emet> "eject" ejects cd-rom
[02:06] <Crankeye> did you unpack it?
[02:06] <torbit> can grub only be used to boot partitions that can be detected by your bios? i have a sata card that I can't boot from in my BIOS, but ubuntu sees just fine. i have grub installed on an IDE, and set it up to work with my ubuntu install on the sata drive, but I keep getting "Selected disk does not exist" message in grub
[02:06] <Flubs> Can anyone give me advice on compiling php5?
[02:06] <patrialt> yea, have both the .tar.gz on my desktop, and the extracted folder
[02:06] <puff> vik:  It's highly likekly that you have to restart the gnome app, in which case it inherits the updated proxy environemtn variable.
[02:06] <daviey> turbolover, i don't know what has done it; but to be fair i'm on a laptop that is hot running ubuntu feisty
[02:06] <LjL> emet: not to mention tab completion. try "sudo apt-get inst<TAB>"... it will realize you're typing the "install" command of apt-get, even those there is even a "sudo" in front
[02:06] <emet> how do I send a message to all users logged into an ubuntu box
[02:06] <Crankeye> ok now whats the issue?
[02:06] <emet> "wall" ?
[02:06] <bruenig> oh no more patrialt
[02:06] <patrialt> lol <3 bruinig
[02:06] <LjL> emet: actually, you can do things like "sud<TAB> apt-g<TAB> inst<TAB> ubuntu-d<TAB>"
[02:07] <patrialt> Umm, well i am literally getting no commands to work to allow me to execute the install file
[02:07] <LjL> emet: yep
[02:07] <Crankeye> ./
[02:07] <borris_the_jeste> Flubs, do sudo apt-get install apache2 php5
[02:07] <vik> puff: you mean the proxy selector app?
[02:07] <emet> I got "sudo aptitude install" aliased to "ins"
[02:07] <emet> :P
[02:07] <Crankeye> ./saurbraten
[02:07] <patrialt> which is sauerbraten_unix, and it needs to be executed
[02:07] <LjL> emet: that works as well :)
[02:07] <Crankeye> ./sauerbraten_unix
[02:07] <torbit> anyone know about grub?
[02:07] <patrialt> do i have to be in any specific directory in the terminal?
[02:07] <LjL> !anyone | torbit
[02:07] <emet> alias ins=sudo aptitude install <-- if anyone wants to try that
[02:07] <ubotu> torbit: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:07] <Crankeye> in the saurbraten folder
[02:07] <puff> vik: Er, when you start any app, forking a process from whatever current process, the new process inherits a snapshot of the environment variables from the old process.  I find it quite likely tha tthe gnome proxy env variable i simply a convenient way to make sure that network apps started from the gnome GUI inherit that same proxy env variable, so changing it later woulnd't have any effect on apps already running.  However, I
[02:07] <puff> don'tknow that for sure.
[02:07] <emet> then you type "ins <package>" to install things
[02:07] <John> Crankeye: i have the same problem except with a dial up modem driver install
[02:07] <torbit> LjL, I already asked, nobody answered
[02:08] <Crankeye> cd /home/yournaem/suarbratenfodler/
[02:08] <vox754> torbit, SATA card? Sorry, no experience with that.
[02:08] <Flubs> borris_the_jeste: I already did the apt-get install, but I need to recompile so i can configure with --with-mysql so I can get it to play nice with the rest of my server
[02:08] <Apollyon_> !grug | torbit
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <LjL> emet: for that matter, i used to have alias upgrade="sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade; sudo aptitude search ~N" ;)
[02:08] <Apollyon_> !grub | torbit
[02:08] <ubotu> torbit: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:08] <borris_the_jeste> Ha Ha!!! I finally got my Radeon 9250 working!!
[02:08] <puff> John: I haven't used dialup in ages... is this PPP?
[02:08] <emet> cool
[02:08] <Crankeye> John: you utarred the files right
[02:08] <bruenig> !thanks | borris_the_jeste
[02:08] <ubotu> borris_the_jeste: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:08] <borris_the_jeste> Flubs, no idea.
[02:08] <John> utarred?
[02:08] <torbit> vox754, yes, the sata card works perfectly with ubuntu, picks it up just fine, I just can't seem to boot off of it at all
[02:08] <Flubs> borris_the_jeste: thanks anyhow
[02:08] <Crankeye> John: you unpacked the files?
[02:08] <torbit> i've read the wiki
[02:08] <John> yes
[02:08] <puff> John: Oh, good, looks like somebody else knows this stuff.
[02:09] <Crankeye> John: now what do the directions tell you to do?
[02:09] <John> puff: lol yea
[02:09] <vox754> torbit, from what year is the card?
[02:09] <torbit> vox, i'm not sure exactly, it's fairly recent
[02:09] <Crankeye> John: more specifically what idd you download >_>;
[02:09] <John> Crankeye: ill check - i'm running a VGA switch here lol
[02:09] <borris_the_jeste> Flubs, sorry, try searching with aptitude with php5 via sudo aptitude search php5.
[02:09] <Crankeye> John: ok ;p
[02:09] <puff> vik:  Gotta go make dinner now.  Back in a while.
[02:09] <unity> LjL: okay, just wondering because i'm running into trouble while trying to leave an ssh tunnel
[02:10] <vik> puff: thanks for your help :)
[02:10] <borris_the_jeste> Flubs, there should be some apache2 libs with php. thats how i did it
[02:10] <LjL> unity: "sudo iptables -F" will remove any iptables rules that you might have active
[02:10] <littlegator> Is anyone familiar with getting cell phones to work?
[02:10] <puff> vik: No sweat, just doing my little bit to pay back for all the help I've gotten here.
[02:10] <vox754> torbit, as a simple solution I recommend you to reset the BIOS of the motherboard, by placing the jumper caps in a certain way. It may be useful if you have a corrupted BIOS.
[02:10] <John> Crankeye: it says i must have an lspci in a standard path...i have no idea what that means?
[02:10] <Broam> littlegator: I've gotten mine to work, but not all of 'em
[02:10] <Crankeye> John: You know that you can goto System -> Administration -> Networking and set up your modem there
[02:10] <patrialt> crankeye http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6315/
[02:11] <Flubs> borris_the_jeste: I'll check the apaceh libs, or I may try downloading the source from php.net and going around any kind of packet manager
[02:11] <littlegator> Broam : It's rather generic, it's a Razr
[02:11] <patrialt> that's the message im getting when i attempt the ./ command
[02:11] <John> yes, but the modem is not recognized i have to install the driver
[02:11] <Crankeye> patrialt: you need to install libSDL
[02:11] <Broam> littlegator: What kind of cable do you have?
[02:11] <patrialt> and i go about that thru? synaptic?
[02:11] <Crankeye> patrialt: open up your synaptic and serach for it
[02:11] <Crankeye> yeah
[02:11] <patrialt> awesome ty
[02:11] <John> Crankeye: i need to install the driver, thats my issue
[02:11] <Crankeye> Ok
[02:11] <littlegator> Broam: I'm not sure what it is, but windows XP could see the device with it plugged in (it's not the commercial motorola one)
[02:11] <borris_the_jeste> Flubs, that might work. I was using debian and again, thats how i did it.
[02:11] <Crankeye> Where did oyu get the driver
[02:11] <Crankeye> ?
[02:11] <Broam> littlegator: Does it have a big block in the middle?
[02:11] <Crankeye> Whats the URL for the package you downloaded?
[02:12] <John> um, h/o jus one sec
[02:12] <Crankeye> ok
[02:12] <Broam> littlegator: or is it just a straight USB cable?
[02:12] <puller> how do i unrar something?
[02:12] <littlegator> Broam: it has a block, but it's not really big or in the middle >_>
[02:12] <John> Crankeye: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux/
[02:12] <bruenig> puller, unrar e whatever.rar
[02:12] <vox754> !rar
[02:12] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[02:12] <Broam> littlegator: Hmm.  Might be straight USB. I've got a USB to Serial with a chipset that's supported for my LG, so it just works
[02:13] <Crankeye> John: which package did you download?
[02:13] <puller> bruenig, ok will try thansk
[02:13] <John> Crankeye: pctel-0.9.7-9-rht-6.tar.gz
[02:13] <littlegator> oh
[02:13] <Broam> littlegator: does device manager pick it up?
[02:13] <John> i was instructed to by a program designed to recognize your modem's "chipset"
[02:13] <littlegator> Broam: I didn't even check, one second
[02:13] <DLB|Maximus> how does one go about adding the ifplugd service to startup?
[02:13] <bruenig> puller, make sure you have installed unrar first (sudo apt-get install unrar)
[02:14] <puller> bruenig, yea i just noticed i didnt have it
[02:14] <Crankeye> John: ok open up a terminal
[02:14] <John> done
[02:14] <turbolover> hey where are the c header files for the kernel located at?
[02:14] <Broam> John: it's in /bin/lspci
[02:14] <littlegator> Broam: I'm not sure what it would be listed as in device manager
[02:14] <Crankeye> cd to where you unzipped
[02:14] <Broam> John: It's that's not standard, I don't know what is. :)
[02:14] <DLB|Maximus> system > services doesnt show me the services im used to seeing in other distros
[02:14] <vox754> turbolover, "slocate headers"
[02:14] <Fraj> Hi is there anyway i can format ubuntu and return to windows?
[02:14] <John> cd?
[02:14] <Broam> littlegator: look for anything connected via USB
[02:14] <John> i'ma linux noob this is my first day
[02:14] <Crankeye> John: cd is change directory
[02:14] <John> ok
[02:15] <vox754> John, welcome.
[02:15] <Jmax-> Fraj: good choice
[02:15] <Crankeye> John: did you save it to the desktop?
[02:15] <puller> bruenig, sudo apt get install unrar did not work
[02:15] <Broam> puller: apt-get, not apt get
[02:15] <puller> ye ai know i just type dit wrong
[02:15] <vox754> !rar > puller
[02:15] <Crankeye> John: type /join #modem
[02:15] <puller> but it still dont work
[02:15] <Fraj> im having trouble with my ubuntu doesnt detect my gfx
[02:15] <puller> bruenig, Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:15] <puller> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:15] <puller> is only available from another source
[02:15] <puller> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[02:15] <puller> mike@mike-desktop:~/Desktop$
[02:15] <Fraj> have no other choice really
[02:15] <Crankeye> John: type /join #modem in your irc client
[02:15] <bruenig> puller, you need to enable the multiverse repo
[02:15] <littlegator> Broam: Nothing connected by USB in device manager but it was recognized with dmesg
[02:15] <bruenig> puller, are you on edgy or dapper?
[02:15] <John> cd /join 3modem
[02:16] <puller> edgy
[02:16] <Broam> littlegator: Pastbin?
[02:16] <John> dam lol
[02:16] <Broam> littlegator: pastebin?
[02:16] <littlegator> Broam: Pastebin the results of dmesg?
[02:16] <Broam> littlegator: Yep
[02:16] <Fraj> can someoen help me please?
[02:16] <Broam> Fraj: lemme scroll up
[02:16] <littlegator> Broam: Okay, but I forgot the URL to pastebin
[02:16] <Broam> Fraj: do you know what kind of graphics card you have?
[02:16] <vox754> Fraj, of course there is a way. But what do you want to do exactly?
[02:17] <bruenig> puller, do "sudo bash -c 'echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list" && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unrar
[02:17] <Fraj> its on board and i have tried everything, everytime the page scrolls up my monitor flickers
[02:17] <Broam> littlegator: There's a million, I think http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ is the most common
[02:17] <Fraj> it gets very annoying
[02:17] <Fraj> so i just wanna get rid of ubuntu
[02:17] <Fraj> do i just try and boot windows from cd and install it?
[02:17] <Fraj> but surely my boot manager would be gone bye now..
[02:17] <puller> bruenig, bash: sudo bash -c 'echo deb: command not found
[02:17] <puller> mike@mike-desktop:~/Desktop$
[02:17] <bruenig> puller, do "sudo bash -c 'echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse" >> /etc/apt/sources.list' && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unrar
[02:17] <Broam> Fraj: It depends on how you installed Ubuntu
[02:17] <williammanda> help...if anyone can....
[02:18] <Broam> Fraj: Do you know what the manufacturer of your graphics card is?
[02:18] <puller> bruenig,  that one worked
[02:18] <Fraj> not really no
[02:18] <bruenig> yeah I used a " where I should have used a '
[02:18] <vox754> Fraj, sure, If you want to boot Win XP do that. But if you want help with Ubuntu you can get it here, just don't despair.
[02:18] <littlegator> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6318/
[02:18] <Fraj> but it wont let me boot from cd
[02:18] <Fraj> iv even changed it in the bios!
[02:18] <littlegator> Broam: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6318/
[02:18] <Broam> vox754: I'm not sure how he would best going about getting his graphics card info
[02:19] <Broam> littlegator: ok
[02:19] <bruenig> in the bios you say!
[02:19] <bTop> hi! on a default install of apache2 where do I store my php Files (which directory)
[02:19] <Fraj> lol
[02:19] <littlegator> Broma: Whoa, I jstu found it in device manager >_>
[02:19] <Broam> littlegator: ya had to post the entire thing didn't ya :)
[02:19] <littlegator> lol yes I did
[02:19] <Broam> littlegator: looks like it's ttyacm0
[02:19] <Broam> littlegator: Ahem, ttyACM0
[02:19] <williammanda> could some review this please.....http://pastebin.ca/361266
[02:20] <vox754> Fraj, are you sure? Try unplugging the cables and doing it again. Reset the BIOS or something. Those things simply don't happen.
[02:20] <kubota> Can someone help me? I have a CD-R recorder that is not being recognized by Dapper 6.06
[02:20] <subopt> Where can i go to find out the packages for feisty/server?
[02:20] <Fraj> ok will do
[02:20] <Crankeye> !paste
[02:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:20] <Broam> vox754, Fraj: CD may not be bootable
[02:20] <Fraj> cd is bootable
[02:21] <vox754> Broam, he is talking about Win XP CD. He wants to kill Ubuntu.
[02:21] <bTop> Fraj, Set bios to CD rom first
[02:21] <Tonren> What's the right way to set my nameservers?  If I edit resolv.conf, it gets rewritten every time I reboot, even if I make it read-only.
[02:21] <Fraj> k
[02:21] <charles_> hi i have a Epson CX6000 printer/scanner.. i know the scanner should work under SANE but i am not finding any good docs on how to get it going.. could someone please help me out?
[02:21] <Broam> vox754: True. I think it's probably a SiS chipset on certain AMD motherboards. They have memory corruption problems
[02:21] <agliv_> Greetings all :) can anybody help me out with a network-admin crash? was trying to configure my network settings and I got a crash report....
[02:22] <dave_> looking to buy a usb hub, are there any issues with any that might not work well with linux anyone know?
[02:22] <bTop> hi! on a default install of apache2 where do I store my php Files (which directory)
[02:22] <Broam> dave_: if it doesnt' require drivers, it should just work, really
[02:22] <vox754> subopt, be specific. Packages for Ubuntu server? They are the same for anything, you just need the repositories.
[02:22] <dave_> so theres really nothing software about them then
[02:22] <williammanda> could some review this please.....http://pastebin.ca/361266
[02:22] <gabriela> hi does someone knows how to intall jin to play chess on line?
[02:23] <gabriela> thanks in advance
[02:23] <vox754> charles_, sorry, I don't know your printer, but I'm curious, how old is it?
[02:23] <Broam> dave_: pretty much. A bigger concern might be where they get their power from (power supply or external)
[02:23] <kubota> Can someone help me? I have a CD-R recorder that is not being recognized by Dapper 6.06
[02:23] <PS_> hi, can anyone help with an xmodmap query?
[02:23] <Broam> williammanda: That is very, very odd. I'm not sure what's going on. I'd say check your sources.list but that's not what's blowing up
[02:23] <subopt> vox754: I'm trying to figure out what packages/versions come with feisty/server vs. feisty/desktop.
[02:23] <rpc> is it possible to run transparent firewall for the guest hooked up via eth bridge on the host?
[02:23] <charles_> vox754, pretty newish i guess... its my dads, im just trying to get it going
[02:23] <Tonren> Anyone?  How do I set resolv.conf nameservers properly?
[02:23] <armin> anyone good with bluetooth keyboard and mouse?
[02:24] <armin> or have a link for a good how to?
[02:24] <mindstate> anyone familiar with the pearpc emulator?
[02:24] <gabriela> hi i want to install jin
[02:24] <rpc> Tonren oh that's easy, do you know the IPs?
[02:24] <gabriela> does someone knows how?
[02:24] <armin> i followed one on ubuntuforums, but didn't work for me
[02:24] <williammanda> ok ty
[02:24] <armin> and it was a old how-to
[02:24] <Broam> gabriela: Hmm. Search packages.ubuntu.com to see if it's in there somewhere. If not you might have to download it from their site
[02:24] <madsen> how do i set irssi charset?
[02:24] <rpc> Tonren just list them like this, one for each line: nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[02:24] <charles_> vox754, sane-find-scanner  shows: found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x082e) at libusb:004:004
[02:24] <dave_> thanks
[02:25] <kubota> Can someone help me? I have a CD-R recorder that is not being recognized by Dapper 6.06
[02:25] <vox754> subopt, there is no difference. "Server" just lacks graphical packages.
[02:25] <gabriela> i Broam: i alredy download the file but i dont undrestand how to install it thanks
[02:25] <bruenig> !es
[02:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:25] <subopt> vox754: Does that mean it lacks X?
[02:25] <Broam> gabriela: there's a readme file in the archive. You should be able to use archive manager to open it
[02:26] <Tonren> rpc: When I list them like that, it gets rewritten every time I reboot
[02:26] <gabriela> Broam: i have a file this file in my desktop in-2.14-unix.tar.gz
[02:26] <Broam> gabriela: it's probably a configure, make, make install setup. I'll see if I can find the wiki articles
[02:26] <Broam> gabriela: yes. Open that with archive manager
[02:26] <Tonren> rpc: It says right at the top of resolv.conf: "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND, YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN."
[02:26] <zack> hey, i'm having a problem with my network settings in ubuntu (2 computers) after a short power outage turned them off. they refuse to use DHCP properly, defaulting to 169.254.x.x - how do i force them to go to 192.168.1.1 which is the address of my router?
[02:26] <vox754> subopt, YES. A server just needs a text console, and optional text-based packages for administration. But, in general, any Linux machine can be used as a server, with or without X.
[02:27] <Broam> gabriela: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[02:27] <subopt> vox754: thanks.
[02:27] <rpc> Tonren so you have something running on boot that in fact takes care of that, you have to dig for that thing and disable it
[02:27] <gabriela> Broam:i extrated to the desktop now what? im totally new on this linux thing
[02:27] <HarunAs-Sami> When I go to System -> Quit, I no longer have the option to shudown, just options for logging off and switching users, etc. Why is this?
[02:27] <rpc> Tonren or at least edit that script
[02:27] <Broam> gabriela: read that link I gave you, it should help you along.
[02:27] <agliv_> Hey all :) I was trying to configure my network settings and network-admin crashed... can anyone help me get it working again?
[02:27] <gabriela> Broam:ok i will check that link thanks
[02:27] <vox754> gabriela, you are not totally new. You've been here for a week already.
[02:27] <zack> Also, every time i change the DNS settings in network-admin it defaults back to 169.254.0.1 again
[02:27] <charles_> it looks like the sane devel version supports it.. is there a way to get a nightly build or something so i dont have to compile the whole thing?
[02:27] <Broam> gabriela: You'll need to install the build-essentials package.  Also, check in the folder for a file called README
[02:28] <Broam> vox754: And?
[02:28] <DLB|Maximus> how does one go about adding the ifplugd service to the default runlevel?
[02:28] <Broam> vox754: I've been using gNewSense as my desktop for as long as it's been out and I still feel pretty new :)
[02:28] <Ice_Wewe> has anyone tried 7.04 PPC Hedge 4?
[02:28] <gabriela> is there but i dont understand very much the readme file
[02:28] <vox754> Broam, nothing. Just my sense of humor... gotta improve my jokes... ahem...
[02:29] <task0> hello all, is there ENY possibility that installing ubuntu on a hardrive, changes or "fixes" (without telling the user) another disk partition table?
[02:29] <Ice_Wewe> is there anyway to perform an alternate install? The GUI installer hangs on selecting a root partition (with the manual partitioning utility)
[02:29] <vox754> Ice_Wewe, NO. It is development you know. Better at !feisty
[02:29] <vox754> !feisty
[02:29] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:29] <Broam> Ice_Wewe: Dapper has an alt-install CD. Not sure if there's one for fiesty
[02:29] <skyfish> vox754:  Heya, it's me (lemoniceblock); thanx for the post on the wireless card!
[02:29] <Tonren> rpc: Thanks - It was "resolvconf", I've disabled it using sysv-rc-conf
[02:30] <daviey> Ice_Wewe, there is a alt cd for feisty
[02:30] <kubota> Can someone help me? I have a CD-R recorder that is not being recognized by Dapper 6.06 ..Please.
[02:30] <rpc> Tonren great
[02:30] <daviey> Ice_Wewe, join #ubuntu+1 for more questions about feisty tho
[02:30] <Broam> gabriela: You need to install Sun Java to run Jin. I won't install Java on my machine so I can't help you past general guidelines
[02:30] <task0> no1?
[02:30] <vox754> skyfish, lemoniceblock, I bet you regret that you cannot change your nickname.
[02:30] <Crankeye> kubota: can it read cds?
[02:31] <Tonren> When I reset my computer using "sudo shutdown -r now", it goes through the shutdown process, hits "Will now halt", then shuts off, but it never resets.  The monitor stops receiving a signal.   I think the harddrives might spin up, but I don't hear the bootup "ping".  The only way to start it up again is to reach behind and shut it off and on again - the "soft reset" button doesn't work.
[02:31] <Broam> task0: Why, did it happen?
[02:31] <zack> hey, i'm having a problem with my network settings in ubuntu (2 computers) after a short power outage turned them off. they refuse to use DHCP properly, defaulting to 169.254.x.x - how do i force them to go to 192.168.1.1 which is the address of my router? Also, every time i change the DNS settings in network-admin it defaults back to 169.254.0.1 again - anyone got an idea? where are the...
[02:31] <zack> ...admin files?
[02:31] <task0> Broam: yes
[02:31] <HarunAs-Sami> When I go to System -> Quit, I no longer have the option to shudown, just options for logging off and switching users, etc. Why is this?
[02:31] <Broam> Tonren: how hold is your computer?
[02:31] <gabriela> Broam: thanks
[02:31] <Broam> task0: What OS did you have installed?
[02:31] <kubota> Crankeye: no, it's as if it wasn't there
[02:31] <task0> Broam: win XP
[02:31] <gabriela> i will check how to do it thanks a lot
[02:31] <Crankeye> hmmm... idk then
[02:31] <vox754> Tonren, do "sudo halt".
[02:31] <skyfish> Hi all~ I have a kinda silly question; I've just installed Ubuntu onto my desktop and everything looks fine so should I need to install a driver for my graphics card?
[02:31] <Broam> zack: check the connections between your machines and the router, I bet the router's acting funky
[02:31] <Tonren> Broam: How old?  It's old.  It's REALLY old.
[02:31] <task0> Broam: partiotioned using the windows installer partition
[02:31] <vox754> Tonren, do "sudo reboot".
[02:31] <DARKGuy> skyfish: If you want 3D acceleration, yes
[02:32] <skyfish> vox754: nope xD  I feel like using skyfish today ^^
[02:32] <Tonren> vox754: I'll try that out - thanks.
[02:32] <kubota> Crankeye, okay  thanks.
[02:32] <task0> Broam: no 3rd parties
[02:32] <Broam> Tonren: I have a machine that does that too. If it's older than 2002 than ACPI may not pick up on how to shut it down properly
[02:32] <Broam> task0: Just a windows partition?
[02:32] <DARKGuy> skyfish: and if you have an nVIDIA/ATI card, you should. X will be faster too
[02:32] <Tonren> Broam: That's totally lame.  Any workarounds?
[02:32] <zack> Broam: i restarted the router and modem and checked everything - the lights are on in the router which shows that everything's connected, and the wireless works perfectly
[02:32] <Tonren> Broam: What if I put noacpi or something in the boot parameters?
[02:32] <Broam> Tonren: Twiddle the BIOS settings, or Just hold the power button for 4 seconds.  That may work
[02:32] <zack> i'm on the wireless with the laptop now
[02:32] <skyfish> DARKGuy: thanx ^^ I'm using an ATI Radeon 9600...I'm guessing I can't use the drivers on the CD?
[02:32] <task0> Broam: ubuntu changed or "corrupted" 2 different partion tables in differents disk
[02:32] <Broam> zack: No machines at all get a DHCP ack? Make sure you didn't filter them
[02:32] <Tonren> Broam: Well, I'll twiddle, but this is a server we're talking about here - I'm not around to hold teh power button.
[02:33] <Broam> task0: That strikes me as very very odd
[02:33] <DARKGuy> skyfish: welcome ^^. Hm, I have no clue about ATI and I think you'll have to download their driver =P, dunno how to install it, I'm an nVIDIA guy =(
[02:33] <task0> Broam: yes, but it happend :(
[02:33] <Broam> Tonren: What make/model? I've got a gateway that acts up all the time. Pity, too. Had to drop 200mhz
[02:33] <zack> Broam: this machine does, via wireless
[02:33] <Broam> zack: oka, that's somethin'
[02:33] <task0> Broam: i had to reformat and repartition
[02:33] <skyfish> DARKGuy: hehe, np xD I'll go some googling ^^
[02:33] <DARKGuy> !ati
[02:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:33] <zack> Broam: where are the network config files to change DNS, etc?
[02:33] <DARKGuy> skyfish: oh yay
[02:33] <Broam> task0: It's possible something wrote to the other disk by accident.
[02:33] <DARKGuy> !ati | skyfish
[02:34] <ubotu> skyfish: please see above
[02:34] <DARKGuy> there :P
[02:34] <Broam> zack:  you could fiddle with ifconfig
[02:34] <charles_> ok guess ill just build sane from cvs
[02:34] <skyfish> DARKGuy: oh kewl, thanx ^^
[02:34] <charles_> hehe and hope for the best :)
[02:34] <vox754> skyfish, but you didn't tell me. Did inprocomm card work?
[02:34] <task0> Broam: that's sucks :(
[02:34] <Tonren> Broam: It's custom built.  An AMD processor, Abit KG-7 RAID mobo
[02:34] <Broam> task0: Or user error. Or a bug in the partition table. Or the disk was corrupt to begin with
[02:34] <zack> Broam: ok - is there any documentation on how to use ifconfig?
[02:34] <Broam> Tonren: Hmm. I'd do a web search and see what you can find. My Gateway's an AMD
[02:35] <Broam> zack: ther'es always the man page, if you cant' find anything on the wiki or the web
[02:35] <abyss> lo just a offtopic question i bought me on thirsday a new version of ut2004. i remembered that on the disc were a linux installer. in my case it is a best-game edition with the linux-installer. only win installer. anyone got ut2004 linux installer?
[02:35] <skyfish> vox754: nope~ I gave up because of school I couldn't spend any more time messing with it and I haven't got the chance to retry it yet
[02:35] <task0> Broam: error in the partition table appeard after i installed ubuntu... and mounted drives
[02:35] <skyfish> vox754: It's on my to-do list though =D
[02:35] <zack> Broam: k, awesome, thanks
[02:35] <Broam> task0: Were you doing any RAID stuff?
[02:35] <vox754> skyfish, that's the spirit!
[02:35] <Tonren> Broam: Thanks.  I'm going to try adding "acpi=force" to the boot parameters
[02:35] <LordUltimaDavid> whats a good nintendo 64 emulator for linux?
[02:35] <abyss> *with no linux-installer
[02:36] <Broam> Tonren: give it a shot. I just switched to a P3-800 I pulled out of the trash. Gnome HAL says it fails to hibernate but it always comes back up. :)
[02:36] <task0> Broam: no, 2 disk modified are SATA... ubuntu disk was IDE
[02:36] <skyfish> vox754: yups~ priority is still catching up with my lost sleep first though~~~~
[02:36] <abyss> LordUltimaDavid, mupen64
[02:36] <Tonren> Broam: I've never had a laptop hibernate successfully
[02:36] <skyfish> Right, thanx everyone!~
[02:36] <Broam> Tonren: make sure your swap is at least as big as your physical ram :)
[02:36] <Tonren> Broam: To this day, my Compaq laptop (which I bought 8 months ago) freezes on shutdown, even if I'm not trying to hibernate
[02:36] <Broam> Tonren: it usually goes without saying, but it does happen
[02:36] <Tonren> Broam: yep, it always has been
[02:36] <MotorCityMadMan> Is there a KPDF plugin for konqeror for viewing inside ?
[02:36] <Crankeye> ameinke_: my reboot broke again
[02:36] <Crankeye> >_>;
[02:36] <vox754> abyss, let me guess. You a gamer. That's why you ask about games.
[02:36] <Broam> Tonren: Mine actually powers OFF, then reboots back into X where I left it.
[02:37] <Tonren> Broam: Bizarre.  Mine freezes.  :\
[02:37] <Tonren> Broam: Anyway, I'll BRB... gonna see if this works
[02:37] <abyss> vox754, looks like :)
[02:37] <Broam> task0: I think that's a pretty nasty bug in a driver somewhere. I'd see if you could repeat it but the damage has already been done
[02:37] <littlegator> So Broam, I'm still not sure how to mount it >_> What does ttyAMC0 mean?
[02:37] <ameinke_> Crankeye: what?
[02:37] <Crankeye> ameinke_: my reboot broke again
[02:37] <zack> one other thing - what is better for ATI? fglrx, ati, or radeon drivers? using the fglrx, glxgears doesn't work very well at all, though beryl with xgl works fine
[02:37] <ameinke_> Crankeye: iam here
[02:37] <abyss> vox754, im just an ut fan and i know ut2004 runs nativly on linux. but i find nowhere the installer
[02:37] <Broam> littlegator: a tty is...well, the language is confusing, but basically your console logins and your serial ports are tty's
[02:37] <Crankeye> ameinke_: it asks for the root password again
[02:37] <mahound> hey...
[02:37] <task0> Broam: actually yes, happend to me by the sencond time... i had the exact same problem before
[02:37] <mahound> my ubuntu installation freezes
[02:37] <whonicca> no ftp clients where u can set ur active ip connection on linux?
[02:37] <Broam> littlegator: you may have more luck using it as a modem :)
[02:38] <Broam> task0: same machine?
[02:38] <task0> Broam: yes, but differenet hardrives
[02:38] <ameinke_> Crankeye: check #reboot
[02:38] <Broam> littlegator: See if mount will mount it, but I have no clue what filesystem to use
[02:38] <bTop> how do I create a folder?
[02:38] <Broam> task0: Might be a bug in the driver
[02:38] <task0> Broam: in win partitions are always ok
[02:38] <vox754> abyss, I've never really played computer games, so I can't help you, but I'd be very interested on hearing what you have to say about N64 emulation.
[02:38] <Broam> bTop: in the console, mkdir
[02:38] <Broam> bTop: nautilus is even easier, just right-click
[02:39] <littlegator> Broam: I don't know what it's device Id is >_> I'm sorry I'm such a noob
[02:39] <megafauna> Hi, Can someone tell me the name of the program I open in the Terminal to change the sound settings?
[02:39] <task0> Broam: can i reportit somewhere?
[02:39] <Broam> littlegator: mount /dev/ttyACM0
[02:39] <abyss> vox754, well works for me on ubuntu edgy fine except of sound
[02:39] <mahound> "ata1: port reset"
[02:39] <mahound> any clue?
[02:39] <Broam> task0: File a bug report, make sure you put your hardware info in it. That looks nasty, and I'm sorry you lost data (or at least, had to fix your partition tables)
[02:39] <task0> Broam: can you helpme reporting it? my english is not very good
[02:39] <bTop> can I create a directory in say Folder 1 then in my www folder create a shortcut to it? or link..!
[02:39] <abyss> vox754, but i really played only one rom ^^ zelda ocarina of time. but works well
[02:39] <Broam> task0: File it against gparted
[02:40] <NeoLysnaKe> hi
[02:40] <jrib> bTop: sure, like a symlink?
[02:40] <task0> Broam: how can i reportit?
[02:40] <littlegator> Broam: mount can't find it
[02:40] <Broam> !bug
[02:40] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:40] <jrib> bTop: ln -s TARGET NAME   to create a symlink
[02:40] <kubota> Anyone know why my screen looks blury? I've got the resolution set to the max, it's no t unreadable, ut it gives me a headache
[02:40] <Broam> littlegator: probably not mountable then
[02:40] <jrib> kubota: only fonts, or all of your screen?
[02:40] <littlegator> Broam: Would there be any apps that could read it?
[02:40] <Broam> littlegator: Search around, see if you can find anyone else who's gotten to mount it.
[02:41] <kubota> jril: all my screen
[02:41] <vox754> abyss, yeah. I'm too one of those nostalgic guys whose N64 keeps resetting, so when I got time I'd love to play Zeldas or more games. I never got all hearts on Majora's Mask.
[02:41] <Broam> littlegator: Um, I don't know about a RAZR, but BitPim works for the Qualcomm CDMA phones (Verizon Wireless in the states, etc.)
[02:41] <Broam> kubota, jrib: I suspect a bad refresh rate
[02:41] <task0> Broam: can you help me filling the repport?
[02:41] <kdub432> thats what i would guess too, broam
[02:42] <Broam> task0: I can try, but you'll have to start it. I don't think I can edit it, because I forget my launchpad login after I switched to gNS
[02:42] <abyss> vox754, hehe i think ubuntu (in global linux) is now ready to handle a hand of game too ^^
[02:42] <Broam> task0: Can you use pastebin? I can see what you're going to post and make edits there
[02:42] <BHSPitMonkey> vox754, weak
[02:42] <task0> pm
[02:43] <abyss> vox754, if i remind debian 4 years ago. nobody though about playing shooters on it
[02:43] <kubota> Broan: Know of anyone way to resolve that?
[02:43] <Broam> task0: Go ahead
[02:43] <bTop> is there a way to be root when I'm opening a file using GUI?
[02:43] <ivx> hello,
[02:43] <vox754> BHSPitMonkey, what?
[02:43] <jrib> bTop: use gksudo
[02:43] <Broam> kubota: sudo dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg, but that's not exactly easy
[02:43] <kubota> ok
[02:43] <kubota> I can try and figure it out
[02:43] <abyss> Anyone got (or know where to get) the linux installer for unreal tournament 2004?
[02:43] <kdub432> btop, i'd advise just learning the command line stuff
[02:43] <Broam> kubota: It'll ask you a bunch of questions. Of course, do note that it BACKS UP your original config file
[02:43] <ameinke_> wonderfull, http://z0r.de/?id=483
[02:43] <Flubs> borris_the_jeste: I got it to work by reconfiguring the php5-mysql module with a dpkg-reconfigure php5-mysql
[02:43] <jrib> bTop: for example,  gksudo gedit /some/random/file
[02:44] <Broam> kubota: which should be in /etc/ somewhere
[02:44] <DARKGuy> abyss: http://liflg.org
[02:44] <m_billybob> sudo nano /etc/blah :P
[02:44] <DARKGuy> abyss: just make sure you have your UT cd/dvd around
[02:44] <ivx> hey, when i do cat /proc/cpuinfo, it says my processor is only 800 mhz, and it is 1.8 ghz, how can i fix this
[02:44] <vox754> abyss, in my mind Linux equals programming, and emulators are programming so, what's the deal. The same with MUGEN for one thing.
[02:44] <m_billybob> sudo -s !
[02:44] <bTop> whats gksudo
[02:44] <jrib> bTop: do you know what sudo is?
[02:44] <Broam> !gksudo
[02:44] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[02:44] <cpk1> !ut
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ut - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <kubota> Broan: alright, thanks
[02:45] <Broam> kubota: If you get stuck, I can find where the config file is
[02:45] <vox754> ivx, you probably have Dual core, so it is normal.
[02:45] <Broam> kubota: if you really bongle your xorg-config, remember that irssi is a command line IRC prog...bah
[02:45] <abyss> DARKGuy, Ive been there but there are only updates not the general installer
[02:45] <gravemind> how do I set a partition to auto mount?
[02:45] <gravemind> I'm using gparted
[02:45] <bTop> jrib I don't know what it stands for but know I can get root access with it
[02:45] <jrib> !fstab |
[02:45] <ubotu> : The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:45] <DARKGuy> abyss: then it must be in your UT cd. Mine has it
[02:45] <jrib>  gravemind !fstab was for you :)
[02:45] <abyss> mine not
[02:45] <gravemind> thx
[02:45] <ivx> vox754, no dual core, but it is power now, so is it just slowing itself down
[02:46] <abyss> can u send me the installer?
[02:46] <jrib> !sudo | bTop gksudo is just a way to use sudo with gui apps.
[02:46] <ubotu> bTop gksudo is just a way to use sudo with gui apps.: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:46] <vox754> !mounting > gravemind
[02:46] <DARKGuy> abyss: guess so, I'd have to unrar the image 'cause I have no DVD drive so I had to buy it from DVD, split the image in about 6 RAR and put 'em on CDs xD
[02:47] <abyss> DARKGuy, how big the installer is?
[02:47] <ivx> vox754, never mind, it bumps itself up, is there a way to get it to run at 1.8 all the time
[02:47] <gravemind> vox754: is there somewhere in gparted where I can tell the partiton to auto mount?
[02:47] <mothersuperior> hello all
[02:47] <DARKGuy> abyss: should not be much, can't remember, lemme see
[02:47] <gravemind> vox754, it already has a mount point
[02:47] <vox754> ivx, sorry don't know for sure. May be it is normal.
[02:48] <zack> i just played around with my settings in linux, but even when i manually set /etc/resolv.conf and used ifconfig, it didn't help
[02:48] <imsocute> i need help for me to format may sd card...i think qtparted messed it up.... qtparted only reads it as a read-only...
[02:48] <Broam> zack: and network-manager crashes?
[02:48] <zack> it still defaulted to 6xx.xxx.xx.xx
[02:48] <jrib> zack: didn't help what?
[02:48] <zack> yes, networ-manager crashes
[02:48] <vox754> gravemind, GParted "creates" partitions, the mounting is done within Linux. Check "/etc/fstab"
[02:48] <sharperguy> argh firefox has decided to start randomly dieing
[02:48] <mothersuperior> anyone good with? wireless & Ubuntu?
[02:48] <Broam> sharperguy: one of your extensions maybe?
[02:48] <gravemind> vox754, kk
[02:49] <mahound> would anyone help me installing ubuntu on a sata disk?
[02:49] <sharperguy> Didnt install any new ones
[02:49] <Broam> zack: *thinks head*
[02:49] <Broam> hard
[02:49] <megafauna> Hi, Can someone tell me the name of the program I open in the Terminal to change the sound settings?
[02:49] <zero88> how would i i get firestarter to start everytime my computers boots???
[02:49] <sharperguy> It was working fine until a few munautes ago
[02:49] <mothersuperior> alsamixer
[02:49] <crimsun> megafauna: what sort of "sound settings"?
[02:49] <mothersuperior> for sound
[02:49] <jrib> mahound: have you tried just running the installer?  I just installed it on mine 5 minuts ago
[02:49] <imsocute> anyone?
[02:49] <mahound> jrib, it hangs
[02:49] <vox754> mahound, there is no science, you just install it.
[02:49] <Broam> zack: can you pastebin your ifconfig output?
[02:49] <zack> jrib: power went off recently and now two computers refuse to work with the dhcp from my router - every time i try to change the dns server to 192.168.1.1 it doesn't work
[02:50] <mothersuperior> mega did that work
[02:50] <mahound> with a message like "ata1: port reset"
[02:50] <imsocute>  i need help for me to format may sd card...i think qtparted messed it up.... qtparted only reads it as a read-only...
[02:50] <testify> If I want to run my Pentium D system as 64 bit rather than 32 would I still want to install the i386 image?
[02:50] <megafauna> crimsun: I can set all the sound levels for any input/output device
[02:50] <zack> Broam: not sure how to do that, but i'll try
[02:50] <Tonren> Broam: No dice.  :\
[02:50] <crimsun> megafauna: right, so you want a cli version? amixer or alsamixer.
[02:50] <Broam> !pastebin
[02:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:50] <tripppy> whats ubuntu alternative disc?
[02:51] <jrib> !alternative | tripppy
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <Broam> Tonren: You may be stuck with a halt instead of a shutdown
[02:51] <Broam> !alt-install
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alt-install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <DARKGuy> !alternate
[02:51] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[02:51] <jrib> DARKGuy: he that was it, thanks :)
[02:51] <Tonren> Broam: i tried "sudo halt" too.  the only way to start the computer again is to reach behind it, turn it off, then on again.  the hard drives never even spin down.
[02:51] <megafauna> crimsun: Thanks! Thats the one!
[02:51] <mothersuperior> Can someone help me with my wireless issue
[02:51] <DARKGuy> xD s'okay jrib
[02:51] <mahound> i think it's related with this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336315
[02:51] <jrib> mahound: well I did install feisty, maybe you could try that if you are desperate...
[02:51] <DARKGuy> abyss: nearly done, gimme a bit
[02:51] <vox754> testify: didn't get your question
[02:52] <mahound> jrib, i tried edgy
[02:52] <mahound> what's the difference?
[02:52] <Broam> Tonren: sudo reboot doesn't reboot?
[02:52] <Tonren> Broam: Nope.
[02:52] <Broam> Tonren: try noacpi instead of forcing it
[02:52] <mothersuperior> how do u know if your suppose 2 use hostap, hermes,or wlanng
[02:52] <mothersuperior> ?
[02:52] <Broam> Tonren: go into a tty login and hit ctrl-alt-del :)
[02:52] <Tonren> Broam: Okay, BRB
[02:53] <LJHarb> anyone here installed Sphinx Search Engine before?
[02:53] <Tonren> Broam: ... what does *that* do?
[02:53] <jrib> mahound: feisty is the current development release, but if nothing else is working for you, at least seeing if feisty does work may help you troubleshoot your problem
[02:53] <abyss> DARKGuy, im shortly afk smoke a cig
[02:53] <Broam> Tonren: should reboot, unless you turned that off
[02:53] <mahound> jrib, where do i get that?
[02:53] <linux_kid> How do I burn an .iso file in edgy?
[02:53] <DARKGuy> abyss: 29Mb x_x
[02:53] <Tonren> Broam: Okey doke
[02:53] <vox754> !iso > linux_kid
[02:53] <Broam> linux_kid: just right-click on it, should allow you to burn if your CD drive supports it (then again I'm on dapper)
[02:53] <Tonren> BRB
[02:53] <abyss> DARKGuy, what linespeed u have?
[02:53] <linux_kid> Broam, thanks
[02:54] <jrib> mahound: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/   have backups of anything important on your disk if you do decide to try the install
[02:54] <DARKGuy> abyss: suppossedly, 1024 / ADSL
[02:54] <bTop> whats the copy command I want to take all files from one folder to another?
[02:54] <linux_kid> Broam, it worked
[02:54] <sharperguy> why would firefox suddenly start segfaulting randomly?
[02:54] <testify> vox754: the i386 image install supports Intel 64 bit processesors and don't run as a 32-bit proc, right?
[02:54] <LJHarb> btop, you mean cp?
[02:54] <DARKGuy> abyss: all I know is that my downloads are at 100-120Kb/s xD
[02:54] <abyss> DARKGuy, ouch but can we try it? i need it very much
[02:54] <Broam> linux_kid: No problem. Sometimes things do "just work" :)
[02:55] <mahound> jrib, what "herd" do i choose
[02:55] <Broam> testify: no, i386 install is 32bit
[02:55] <DARKGuy> abyss: sure, how would we try? I have no idea how to use dcc :| (and I'm under irssi, gotta launch X-Chat)
[02:55] <linux_kid> testify, i386 works on both 32-bit PC's and amd64 pc's.   its the 32-bit version
[02:55] <jrib> mahound: I had a herd-3 disk already burned, but I would try the latest one if I were you
[02:55] <bTop> LJHarb, Yes. Is there a *.* or something similar?
[02:55] <abyss> DARKGuy, how about skype ?
[02:55] <mahound> ok
[02:55] <testify> Broam: So is there any install that supports an Intel 64 bit processor (that will run as 64-bit)?
[02:55] <vox754> testify, they RUN as 32-bit. That image supports the EM64T processors which is equivalent to AMD64. Either way, it is recommended the i386.
[02:56] <Broam> testify: try the x86_64 images
[02:56] <Tonren> I disabled resolvconf using sysv-rc-conf, but it
[02:56] <DARKGuy> abyss: I guess it could work, heard there was a linux version but I've never used it, I guess I could install it and try
[02:56] <Tonren> 's still throwing an error on bootup - it's trying to find /etc/resolvconf/run/start or whatever.  How do I make it STFU?  Is it safe to uninstall?
[02:56] <Broam> testify: however, i386 will work just fine, and you can fall back to it if stuff gets wonky
[02:56] <Hatty> DARKGuy: dcc in irssi is /dcc send file or /dcc chat user
[02:56] <sharperguy> !stfu
[02:56] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[02:57] <abyss> DARKGuy, ther is a skype linux version out there just download and install
[02:57] <linux_kid> testify, i would use the 32-bit version (i386) because many programs do NOT work for 64bit
[02:57] <DARKGuy> Hatty: Oh, cool thanks! xD
[02:57] <abyss> DARKGuy, its a *deb pack
[02:57] <DARKGuy> abyss: kay
[02:57] <LJHarb> ubotu, isnt "rtfm" and manual link triggers the same thing?
[02:57] <megafauna> What's the best CD ripper to use with Ubuntu? In Windows I used CDex w/ Lame. Can someone pls recommend one?
[02:57] <vox754> testify, there are TWO intel 64-bit processor, one that is backwards compatible with i386 and one that is not. The first one is fully supported by Ubuntu.
[02:58] <Hatty> DARKGuy: sorry, dcc send file user
[02:58] <hdxx> megafauna: k3b, gnomebaker..
[02:58] <Tonren> megafauna: k3b kicks ass
[02:58] <linux_kid> megafauna, the default is fine
[02:58] <DARKGuy> Hatty: d'oh! :P okay thx ^^
[02:58] <Hatty> megafauna: for tipping, grip
[02:58] <Hatty> ripping*
[02:58] <jrib> megafauna: sound juicer should be in your sound and video menu
[02:59] <zack> Broam: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6322/
[02:59] <vox754> testify, It is a little hard to explain, I hope I'm not confusing you. It is best to go with i386, that is my final word.
[02:59] <Broam> zack:  looking
[02:59] <Hatty> is there anyway i can stop ubuntu from asking me what i want to do with a blank cd when i insert one into my burner?
[02:59] <megafauna> I used to rip at 320kbps at the insane level in CDex so I could have CD sound quality in .mp3 format. Am checking out the recommendations!
[02:59] <jrib> Hatty: maybe system > preferences > removable drives and media, but not sure
[02:59] <Broam> megafauna: with soundjuicer, you can rip to FLAC which is lossless
[03:00] <Broam> megafauna: I bet most of the other options allow that too.
[03:00] <megafauna> Broam: yes, but my ipod won't play it
[03:00] <testify> vox754: heh alright, thanks.
[03:00] <megafauna> Broam, flac that is.
[03:00] <zack> Broam: oops, that ifconfig is from when i just tried to set a static IP
[03:00] <Xenguy> Broam: how does FLAC filesize compare to OGG ?
[03:00] <Hatty> jrib: Thank you
[03:00] <Frogzoo> Hatty: sys -> prefs -> removable drivews
[03:00] <Tonren> Broam: Still nothing.  :\
[03:00] <Tonren> Broam: Also, I can't get resolvconf to go away.
[03:00] <zack> do you want me to put one up where it is DHCP?
[03:01] <Broam> Xenguy: they're not the same thing.  OGG is comparable to MP3 and is lossy. FLAC is lossless and will be bigger
[03:01] <Hatty> Xenguy: its bigger
[03:01] <Broam> Tonren: I don't know how to nuke resolv.conf.
[03:01] <SurfnKid> comm!
[03:01] <SurfnKid> !comm
[03:01] <vox754> megafauna, can you really tell the difference between 320 kbps and 128 kbps? Why do you need such "quality"?
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about comm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <DARKGuy> abyss: done, what acc should I talk to?
[03:01] <Tonren> Broam: Not resolv.conf - resolvconf.
[03:01] <SurfnKid> !com
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about com - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <Xenguy>  Is it the same size as WAV files for instance?
[03:01] <Broam> Tonren: Hmm.
[03:01] <SurfnKid> !communications
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about communications - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <Tonren> Broam: resolvconf is this stupid script that tries to hijack resolv.conf all the freakin' time.
[03:01] <Broam> Xenguy: that's a better way to think of it yes
[03:01] <Tonren> Broam: Maybe it's safe to uninstall it.
[03:01] <abyss> DARKGuy, -----> private window
[03:01] <Broam> Tonren: I hope so. :)
[03:01] <gravemind> in fstab, what is the UUID=number? It looks scary
[03:02] <stormbind> does anyone know if there is a WISIWIG web page programmer for linux?
[03:02] <jrib> !uuid | gravemind
[03:02] <Frogzoo> !botabuse | SurfnKid
[03:02] <ubotu> gravemind: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[03:02] <ubotu> SurfnKid: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:02] <DARKGuy> stormbind: NVU, Screem
[03:02] <Broam> zack: Looks like eth0 connected
[03:02] <Xenguy> Broam: Hatty: tx
[03:02] <DARKGuy> abyss: I see none yet =p
[03:02] <jrib> gravemind: basically, it's another way to specify the drive.  It's optional, you can still use the old /dev/FOO method
[03:02] <Broam> Tonren: I couldn't get my Gateway to behave either.
[03:02] <abyss> DARKGuy, -----> abysssct
[03:02] <zack> Broam: it's connected, but as a static IP
[03:02] <Tonren> Broam: Seems like resolvconf got uninstalled.
[03:02] <bTop> ok so I created a folder in my www folder and an index.php file in there but I cant see it. says 404 error
[03:02] <Tonren> Broam: Yeah, I think it's just not going to shutdown properly, ever.
[03:02] <gravemind> jrib, ok
[03:02] <Broam> Tonren: Personally, stick it on a UPS, install nut (add the nut user to the dialout group) and pray you don't have to shut it down. :)
[03:03] <zack> Broam: it can access the router when i set a static IP but it doesn't access the WAN
[03:03] <gravemind> jrib: is uuid somehow better?
[03:03] <zack> or internet
[03:03] <Tonren> Broam: What's "nut" do?
[03:03] <DARKGuy> abyss: done
[03:03] <Broam> zack: according to that it looks like it's 192.168, from your router
[03:03] <imagine> Okay.. I don't really understand DNS Server... But I have a router.. and 4 computers connected to it.. and I want to make a webserver and a mail server as well.. I registered my domain name.. and my ISP provides me 3 different DNS address and my ISP has a dynamic IP set up.. should I set up my personal DNS Server?
[03:03] <vox754> gravemind, it is some number for Ubuntu, you don't have to worry about it. It is there for a reason, unknown to me if you ask.
[03:03] <jrib> gravemind: take a look at the link from ubotu about the "rationale"
[03:03] <Xenguy> bTop: check permissions (on the file)
[03:03] <gravemind> kk
[03:03] <Broam> Tonren: Network UPS tools.  Allows a computer to get data from Uninterruptible Power Supplies. I got a load of data from my SmartUPS clone
[03:03] <bTop> Xenguy, thanx
[03:03] <bulmer> Tonren: where did you get that resolvconf script? who installed it?
[03:04] <Broam> Tonren: I haven't done any cool scripting like "shut down when battery at 50%, and tell everyone else on the network"
[03:04] <Tonren> bulmer: I have no idea.  I thought it was installed by default.
[03:04] <seravitae> what can i use to bring my sound down and up again?
[03:04] <abyss> DARKGuy, i press ok but i cant see ya in my list
[03:04] <zack> Broam: what do you mean by that?
[03:04] <bulmer> Tonren: no such thing exist
[03:04] <Broam> zack: Hmm. What's the make of your router?
[03:04] <Tonren> Broam: I'm not interested in scripting, really.  I just want to be able to remotely reset my stupid server.
[03:04] <unop> !resolvconf
[03:04] <ubotu> resolvconf: nameserver information handler. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.36ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 58 kB, installed size 312 kB
[03:04] <Frogzoo> seravitae: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[03:04] <Tonren> bulmer: I removed it with "sudo aptitude remove resolvconf"
[03:04] <zack> it's a linksys wrt54gl
[03:04] <Broam> zack: I'd ask the revision. I have rev 4
[03:05] <zack> i'm unsure - but i have the dd-wrt firmware on it
[03:05] <megafauna> vox754: I don't have an ear for sound quality at all, but I can between 128 / 320. If you turn up the sound on stereo speakers (like in my car) it becomes apparent, not annoying apparent, but apparent. However, the real reason I rip so high is 1) I paid for the CD, so dammit, I am going to get ALL my  money's worth, and 2) The music is symphonic and you cannot hear all the individual instuments correctly (it j
[03:05] <megafauna> ust becomes 1 big blur of sound) in lesser rips. This is vital when listening to the complex sounds a symphony generates.
[03:05] <Tonren> What's weird is that even after completely disabling resolvconf using sysv-rc-conf, it still tried to run on bootup.
[03:05] <bulmer> Tonren: oh okay..i have not used it before
[03:05] <stormbind> anyone know if there are any problems with notebook computers and the current version of ubuntu?
[03:05] <Broam> zack: Aah. Hmm. I'd remote into it and see if it's giving you any neat error messages
[03:05] <Tonren> stormbind: I have an HP Compaq v2565us, and it won't hibernate, and it boots up really freakin' slow.
[03:05] <bTop> Xenguy, what should it be
[03:05] <stormbind> I remember something about them overheating with the last release
[03:05] <Tonren> stormbind: Also the wireless card isn't good for Linux.
[03:05] <zack> Broam: ok, how do i do that?
[03:05] <stormbind> that's a bummer
[03:05] <seravitae> Frogzoo: hmm, thats wierd, i was just playing a movie in vlc (sound was fine), closed it down, xmms won't play sound now, but i restarded alsa.
[03:05] <Tonren> stormbind: you coudl probably find out more on www.linuxforlaptops.com.  Or some URL like that, I forget what it was, exactly
[03:05] <Broam> zack: I don't have DD-WRT installed, but I suppose you could SSH into it
[03:05] <zack> ok, ta
[03:05] <vox754> megafauna, wow, that's impressive. Any particular artist composer?
[03:06] <stormbind> thanks I'll check it out
[03:06] <Broam> zack: I haven't freed mine yet, sorry.
[03:06] <megafauna> vox754: It's not all pretentiousness, also, hard dive space is so cheap nowdays.
[03:06] <gravemind> jrib, vox754, I already have a line for the partition I want to auto mount. So I just have to add "auto," to the options
[03:06] <Xenguy> bTop: typically 644 on a file, so:  chmod -644 thefilename
[03:06] <Frogzoo> stormbind: check launchpad
[03:06] <jrib> gravemind: yep
[03:06] <Xenguy> bTop: you made need to prepend sudo
[03:06] <vox754> gravemind, that seems correct.
[03:06] <bulmer> what is the equivalent /proc/config.gz of other linux in Ubuntu..this is the file that configure created from the kernel Makefile
[03:06] <megafauna> vox754: are you into classical?
[03:06] <Xenguy> bTop: sorry
[03:06] <stormbind> launchpad?
[03:06] <Broam> megafauna: Well, were it not for your iPod, FLAC would be the way to go as it's a lossless compression.  I hear the Cowon iAudio does FLAC natively, or you can install Rockbox
[03:06] <Xenguy> bTop: chmod 644 file
[03:07] <bTop> Xenguy, can I set this at the folder level?
[03:07] <Frogzoo> !sound | seravitae
[03:07] <ubotu> seravitae: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:07] <megafauna> Broam: hmm, yes, perhaps I should check out rockbox
[03:07] <vox754> megafauna, I know someone. Beethoven, Vivaldi, Bach, Shostakovich?
[03:07] <Tonren> I have an old custom-built desktop that I'm using as a server.  It won't shutdown properly - whether I use "sudo halt" or "reboot" or "shutdown" or hit ctrl + alt + delete, the hard drives never even spin down.  The only way to reboot the computer is to kill the power and then turn it back on again.  Anyone know what's wrong?
[03:07] <Broam> megafauna: I warn you, you will lose some funtionality. And of course no ITMS, but that doesn't sound like your thing anyway
[03:07] <Xenguy> bTop: sure, man chmod for details (you may need -R recursive)
[03:07] <Broam> Tonren: update BIOS?
[03:07] <gravemind> jrib, vox754, it says "defaults" so if I add auto does that contradict the default "noauto," or just make fstab confused?
[03:07] <Tonren> Broam: How do I do that...?
[03:07] <Broam> Tonren: I understand most consider that a desperate measure.
[03:07] <Frogzoo> Tonren: chances are the bios doesn't support acpi
[03:07] <Tonren> Broam: Yeah, I hear you can brick your processor that way
[03:07] <Xenguy> bTop: bTop directories should be 755 typically
[03:07] <Broam> Tonren: depends on manuf of mobo
[03:07] <_raymond_house_> does anyone no anything about loadlin?
[03:08] <gravemind> jrib, vox754, wait, default is auto
[03:08] <gravemind> why isn't it automounting then?
[03:08] <vox754> gravemind, I don't think it will confuse anything.
[03:08] <Tonren> Frogzoo: It's a 7-year-old processor/motherboard.  I'm not surprised.   But it doesn't work even if I do "acpi=off" on boot parameters.
[03:08] <Broam> Tonren: I've never ever bricked a box, and I used to work tech support for a huge company.  Okay, I did brick one laptop dock once because I stuck the floppy drive in the DOCK
[03:08] <jrib> gravemind: are you sure that line was there before the last time you booted?
[03:08] <gravemind> yeah, it was there for a long time
[03:08] <gravemind> actually, there are two lines for the same thing
[03:09] <bulmer> what is the equivalent /proc/config.gz of other linux in Ubuntu..this is the file that configure created from the kernel Makefile
[03:09] <Broam> Tonren: There's a little device called a BIOS savior, if you don't mind the fact that their "on-line" order system involves faxing a printed copy of a web page to Taiwan after you mark it up with a pen
[03:09] <megafauna> vox754: right now I have been sucked into Bach's organ works. I HIGHLY recommend the Naxos performances by Wolfgang Rubsam. Bach's Great Organ Works is one of the best discs I've ever heard. The organ is Thunder which has found a mathematical harmony, there is simply (IMHO) no instrument like it.
[03:09] <gravemind> wait,
[03:09] <bTop> Xenguy, still nothing?
[03:09] <gravemind> it has the wrong filesystem type I think
[03:09] <OlgaB> After starting up Conky on my Ubuntu box I get three errors at the end of the readout that say it couldn't init font path elements
[03:09] <Tonren> Broam: Uh... no thanks.  XD
[03:09] <gravemind> it says ntfs, but it's supposed to be ext3
[03:09] <Broam> Tonren: I was gonna LinuxBIOS some of my machines, did some looking into it. Neat stuff
[03:09] <Xenguy> bTop: what are the details?
[03:09] <Tonren> Broam: Nah, I need a quick fix.  I'm leaving tomorrow and won't have physical access to the server for another month or so.
[03:10] <megafauna> Broam: I still boot into XP once a day to update my ipod, I'm still working my way through learning/setting up Amarok. It looks really powerful with the database but less flashy than itunes (not that that matters).
[03:10] <Broam> Tonren: Ugh. I'm about out of options, I seriously downgraded 200mhz because of this problem
[03:10] <Noob> hey can you install ubuntu on a PSP?
[03:10] <Broam> megafauna: you a KDE man?
[03:10] <Frogzoo> Tonren: you might look into using apm
[03:10] <Broam> Noob: nope
[03:10] <Tonren> Frogzoo: What be that?
[03:10] <at0miku> I only have 3.5mb of space left on my hard drive... What shall I delete!
[03:10] <Tonren> at0miku: C:\Windows\System32
[03:10] <vox754> megafauna, I like the Brandenburgo concerts... Number 3, I think, is the livelier. And first movement form 5 is great. ...ahem... offtopic... damn you Bach.
[03:10] <gravemind> at0miku: /tmp
[03:10] <gravemind> lol
[03:11] <zack> Broam: i'm trying to find out how to telnet or ssh to my router but all i get is info on how to do that stuff through rather than on it
[03:11] <cables> atomiku, /tmp, APT cache... I forget where the APT cache is though.
[03:11] <vox754> gravemind, that is a problem, wrong filesystem, good you noticed.
[03:11] <Frogzoo> Tonren: it's an alternative power management daemon - you'd best google about before installing it
[03:11] <at0miku> sudo rm -rf /tmp ?
[03:11] <Tonren> zack: You can't SSH or telnet to a router unless it has an SSH server running on it.   Does yours??  I've never heard of that happening before.
[03:11] <Zero> any distro available to install on PSP
[03:11] <Tonren> Frogzoo: Okey doke, I'll take a look
[03:11] <megafauna> vox754: Beethoven is one of my fav's ever. When I listen to his music I can't do anything else. He speaks to the listener more clearly than an actual person can
[03:11] <Broam> Tonren: he's running dd-wrt
[03:11] <Tonren> Oh by the way, how do I uninstall old kernels using "sudo aptitude" and not the GUI?
[03:11] <zack> vox754: personally i like the jaques loussier take on the brandenburg concertos - nothing better than making it jazzy
[03:11] <gravemind> at0miku: I was kidding, deleting tmp probably won't help too much
[03:12] <Tonren> Broam: No idea what that is...
[03:12] <at0miku> k
[03:12] <megafauna> vox754: I also love the Renaissance era as well
[03:12] <Broam> Tonren: alternate linux firmware for a linksys router
[03:12] <Thehound666> Hi. I can never get any drivers working for my gfx card. I always have to run Linux within VMWare. Is there any way to make Linux run natively in a decent manner?
[03:12] <zack> Tonren: it's a firmware built to improve the capabilities of the wrt54gl router
[03:12] <quaal> has anyone been able to edit their gnome menu? under applications? when i try to click on the 'show' box it does not let me ?
[03:12] <vox754> zack, curse you and your family... NO! mathematical way is the only way. ...ahem ... offtopic.
[03:12] <Broam> Thehound666: what graphics card?
[03:12] <Xenguy> bTop: make sure you verify the actual location of the file
[03:12] <Tonren> Oooohhh!! It's the cool open source WRT firmware that they made becuase Linksys used OSS stuff on their router without telling anyone!
[03:12] <Tonren> Badass.
[03:12] <Thehound666> Radeon x1950PRO XGE
[03:12] <greenman> Hi.  Not sure where else to ask this.  I need a proxy server that is easy to set up.  Something apt-get install would be nice.  Any suggestions?
[03:12] <megafauna> Broam: no, I just install my first linux last weekend: Ubuntu. I spend alot of time in this channel as I'm always having problems and questions. I was going to learn Bash this weekend but I don't think I'm going to have the time.
[03:13] <Broam> !ati | Thehound666
[03:13] <ubotu> Thehound666: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:13] <gravemind> jrib, vox754, here's the line, should this work? /dev/sda4       /media/windowsdata ext3    defaults,user,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[03:13] <SurfnKid> !serial
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <Tonren> greenman: How are you gonna use the proxy server?
[03:13] <megafauna> Broam: from XP to Linux: There was a steep learning curve
[03:13] <Thehound666> I have tried that and ended up in a non-boot situation
[03:13] <Broam> megafauna: Yeah it was
[03:13] <Frogzoo> Thehound666: what's wrong with the fglrx driver ?
[03:13] <SurfnKid> how do i learn about serial ports on ubuntu?
[03:13] <zack> vox754: what's wrong with jamming over the brandenburg concertos? imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - plus bach's composition was amazing
[03:13] <Thehound666> fglrx doesn't let me boot
[03:13] <jrib> gravemind: is /dev/sda4 really ext3 because a lot of those options are for things like ntfs
[03:13] <Frogzoo> SurfnKid: /dev/ttyS0
[03:13] <Thehound666> tried it twice
[03:13] <Broam> megafauna: I've been using Linux since Dapper was pre-release, and I still consider myself grandmamode
[03:13] <megafauna> vox754: I also like Bach's Passion of St. Mathew and his Magnificat
[03:13] <kdub432> zack, probably a problem with your xorg.conf file
[03:14] <gravemind> sda4 is ext3
[03:14] <megafauna> Broam: :)
[03:14] <SurfnKid> Frogzoo: trying to get access to my cisco router
[03:14] <Frogzoo> Thehound666: edgy ?
[03:14] <kdub432> it might be more helpful to switch to a fglrx or a xorg.conf channel
[03:14] <megafauna> Ubuntu doesn't come with lame does it?
[03:14] <Thehound666> yes
[03:14] <cables> at0miku, I think sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb will remove your apt archives, which should save a lot of space. However, someone should check me on that...
[03:14] <gravemind> jrib - I think it used to be ntfs, but I changed it in gparted
[03:14] <vox754> gravemind, why does it say windowsdata, are you sure it is ext3? The gid=46 means root, the default for NTFS, so it may be actually NTFS. Best way is to use "sudo fdsik -l"
[03:14] <greenman> Tonren: I want to limit access from a particular computer
[03:14] <Broam> megafauna: might be in universe or multiverse.
[03:14] <bTop> Xenguy, yes its there I did a dir
[03:14] <zack> kdub432: ok then
[03:14] <Tonren> Anyone?  How do I uninstall old kernel headers with "aptitude" on the command line?
[03:14] <megafauna> Broam: checking
[03:14] <Frogzoo> SurfnKid: ciscos aren't standard serial - they need a custom pinout
[03:14] <greenman> Tonren: basically the computer would be set to go through the proxy and i could set when it could be online.
[03:14] <Tonren> greenman: Ahh, ok.  Not sure how to help out with that.  ( I only know how to set up a much simpler proxy.)
[03:14] <SurfnKid> Frogzoo: what do ya recommend to use as an interface so i can program baud rate and settings
[03:14] <Broam> megafauna: girlfriend bought an iRiver, which supports Ogg.  Oh wait. *I* bought that for her.  Wonder why...
[03:14] <Thehound666> only thing that saved me was xorg.conf backup
[03:14] <cables> !lame
[03:14] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[03:15] <greenman> Tonren: what do you mean much simpler?
[03:15] <Xenguy> bTop: ls ?  you may want to do a 'pwd' too ;-)
[03:15] <Frogzoo> SurfnKid: kermit is very good
[03:15] <Broam> megafauna: multiverse
[03:15] <SurfnKid> ah ok
[03:15] <SurfnKid> let me try that thanx
[03:15] <Tonren> greenman: If you do "ssh remoteserver.com -D 8080", it sets up a proxy server on your local box at port 8080.
[03:15] <gravemind> jrib, vox754, so should I delete those extra ntfs options?
[03:15] <jrib> gravemind: you can get by with just having "user" in there as the options
[03:15] <vox754> zack, NO. I am a machine and I like mathematical music.
[03:15] <at0miku> hmm
[03:15] <littlegator> argh, could anyone help sync a motorola Razr to ubuntu? =.=
[03:15] <megafauna> Broam: I switched to Ubuntu out of curiousity and because the only 2 apps I regularly used were iTunes & Firefox. If Amarok is a decent replacement (it looks like it might be) I'll totally switch.
[03:15] <at0miku> Can I delete /home/atomiku/core.5499 ?
[03:15] <cables> at0miku, yep
[03:16] <greenman> Tonren: really?  that's interesting.  What is remoteserver.com
[03:16] <Broam> megafauna: it should be. There's gtkpod too
[03:16] <at0miku> what is it?
[03:16] <kdub432> littlegator, check out synce
[03:16] <at0miku> its 150mb
[03:16] <kdub432> actually
[03:16] <cables> at0miku, I believe it's a crash report
[03:16] <Tonren> greenman: I meant "any old remote server", not a specific one
[03:16] <kdub432> nevermind, i dont think razors what the right OS
[03:16] <BillyB2> thats what i was saying ..
[03:16] <Xenguy> greenman: 'squid' is one proxy server that seems popular - there are doubtless others
[03:16] <littlegator> kdub432: I'll try it
[03:16] <Tonren> greenman: (You need shell access to another server for it to work.)
[03:16] <vox754> gravemind, you changed it? well be sure with "sudo fdisk -l" then yes, delete the options.
[03:16] <kdub432> but its worth investigating
[03:16] <Thehound666> I never see anyone saying that the loading bar gets full, the picture scrambles then computer freezes
[03:16] <BillyB2> it doesnt penis make sense
[03:16] <littlegator> wat
[03:16] <at0miku> ahh
[03:16] <Thehound666> but always happens to me
[03:16] <at0miku> yeah, youre right.
[03:16] <mel> i am trouble uninstalling MLDONEY server it says some pre uninstall scrip error because of this i am unable to upgrade my OS from dapper to edgy
[03:16] <at0miku> DELETED! :D
[03:17] <unop> !language | BillyB2
[03:17] <greenman> Tonren: oh, I see.  I have a computer that can do it, so I would just ssh into it with that command...
[03:17] <ubotu> BillyB2: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:17] <vox754> megafauna, what about Mozart's Requiem. Amazing.
[03:17] <mel> !edgy upgrade
[03:17] <BillyB2> unop  sorry i have tourretts :(
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <megafauna> Broam: gtkpod I will check it out now.
[03:17] <greenman> Xenguy: I apt-get installed squid.  Was a bit overwhelmed with options and such.  Plus I can't get it started
[03:17] <mel> !upgrade
[03:17] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:17] <Broam> megafauna: both should work pretty well, assuming you can encode into mp3 somehow. You may want to check the wiki
[03:17] <Thehound666> Edgy runs fine-in VMWare
[03:17] <unop> BillyB2,  no biggy -- just that women and children frequent this channel
[03:17] <Thehound666> the fglrx driver is my issue
[03:18] <Thehound666> it never works
[03:18] <littlegator> so, could anyone help sync a motorola Razr to ubuntu? =.=
[03:18] <Broam> Thehound666: Does Ubuntu work with the free drivers?
[03:18] <Xenguy> greenman: yeah if you installed squid you would want to get to a point where you really understand how it works
[03:18] <gravemind> vox754, fdisk -l says sda4 is "Linux"
[03:18] <Thehound666> freezes too
[03:18] <Thehound666> only VESA works
[03:18] <Thehound666> and very bad
[03:18] <Broam> Thehound666: at least it's not VGA :)
[03:18] <Broam> Thehound666: laptop?
[03:18] <vox754> gravemind, then go ahead. If you think it is too crowded, you can come here #vocx
[03:18] <Thehound666> 1024x768@60 HZ
[03:18] <cnmsales> Need help getting my linksys WMP11 v4]  802.11b card working. Im am running ubuntu Edgy installed from cdrom. I am using this help wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper. I have done this but i think i made a mistake by not removing NDIS before installing the new NDIS files. If anyone could help me get this in working order id be greatly thankful.
[03:18] <Xenguy> greenman: try this too:  apt-cache search proxy |grep -i proxy |less
[03:18] <Thehound666> unchangable
[03:18] <Rothbuntu> monochrome FTW
[03:18] <Thehound666> desktop
[03:18] <mqueiros> anybody has installed easybuntu ? Is there any problem I might face instaling it ?
[03:19] <greenman> Xenguy: i was hoping on finding something simple.  Basically it's just a discipline thing for my wife.  She doesn't get her writing done when she can surf blogs.  :)
[03:19] <cables> Thehound666, did you follow the guide at wiki.ubuntu.com to the letter?
[03:19] <Broam> !easybuntu
[03:19] <megafauna> Vox754: I agree, but I think his Great Mass in C Minor is actually even better by at least 2x
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easybuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <Thehound666> my eyes hurt @ 60 Hz
[03:19] <megafauna> vox654; IMHO
[03:19] <Broam> !automatix
[03:19] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:19] <cables> !easyubuntu
[03:19] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[03:19] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i fix grub when it boots then goes to it then just says grub un the corner and freezes?
[03:19] <littlegator> so, could anyone help sync a motorola Razr to ubuntu? =.=
[03:19] <Xenguy> greenman: hehe
[03:19] <vox754> megafauna, NO way! come here #vocx
[03:19] <bTop> howto view my new php page placed in the var/www directory
[03:19] <Broam> littlegator: I'm not sure--again, someone might have found something, but at least it sees the device. Try searching at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:19] <megafauna> Broam: I will read up on it. I just bought some more music today and I want to put it on my ipod.
[03:20] <Shaezsche> i know how to recompile a fresh vanilla kernel, but how can i recompile the current ubuntu one? so i can get patches from synaptics
[03:20] <greenman> Xenguy: you can see why i would want something simple.  Thanks for the help
[03:20] <Tonren> bTop: Place a file "index.php" in /var/www then navigate to http://localhost in your browser.
[03:20] <Thehound666> I could tolerate vesa if it allowed me a refresh other than 60 Hz
[03:20] <zack> Broam: ok, i've managed to log into dd-wrt via telnet
[03:20] <Thehound666> any way to hack?
[03:20] <cnmsales> Anyone?
[03:20] <Broam> megafauna: cool :)
[03:20] <Comrade-Sergei> how do i fix grub when it boots then goes to it then just says grub un the corner and freezes?
[03:20] <Xenguy> greenman: yw (check out some of the apt-cache search results I mentioned above)
[03:20] <unop> bTop,  you have to have apache and php installed and working first tho
[03:20] <megafauna> vox754: I am there
[03:20] <Frogzoo> Shaezsche: apt-get source
[03:20] <Broam> Thehound666: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg yields no love?
[03:20] <Broam> ahem
[03:20] <cnmsales> Need help getting my linksys WMP11 v4]  802.11b card working. Im am running ubuntu Edgy installed from cdrom. I am using this help wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper. I have done this but i think i made a mistake by not removing NDIS before installing the new NDIS files. If anyone could help me get this in working order id be greatly thankful.
[03:20] <lineman60> i need some help with wireless, followed the walkthu here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902   but when i have bmc43xx in blacklist on reboot my wireless card dose not show up in network manager.
[03:20] <Shaezsche> frogzoo, wher edo i type make xconfig?
[03:21] <Broam> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:21] <Thehound666> no and if fglrx freezes it
[03:21] <Thehound666> I still need to restore xorg.conf from backup
[03:21] <greenman> Xenguy: i am.  I'm checkin' out micro-proxy right now.  (got it form the list)
[03:21] <Shaezsche> Frogzoo if i recompile it, will the patches from apt-get upgrade still apply to it? do i have to name it something?
[03:21] <Comrade-Sergei> how can i reinstall grub and im not installing windows
[03:21] <Broam> Thehound666: sounds like you have a lovely graphics card there. Either it's too new, offbrand, or it's overheating like nuts
[03:21] <Thehound666> if I right click the Desktop and go into resolution settings
[03:21] <Thehound666> it claims the changes have been made
[03:22] <Thehound666> but they haven't
[03:22] <Broam> Thehound666: you could always just hack away at xorg.conf by yourself
[03:22] <Thehound666> not overheating
[03:22] <Frogzoo> Shaezsche: building your own kernel is completely unsupported & afaik, patches aren't released through synaptic
[03:22] <unop> cnmsales, installing a new package over an older one shouldnt matter really -- what part of the wiki are you stuck at?
[03:22] <bulmer> lineman; isnt it that having the module mentioned in blacklist meant it does not get loaded?
[03:22] <Thehound666> I can play Oblivion all day in Windows
[03:22] <Shaezsche> yea, but if i used the one that ubuntu supplies from sourc?
[03:22] <cnmsales> unop, i followed it all the way through
[03:22] <kdub432> the hound, you can play in linux too using cedega
[03:22] <Comrade-Sergei> how can i reinstall grub and im not installing windows
[03:22] <Shaezsche> can i just chnage the options instead of recompiling it?
[03:22] <bulmer> lineman60 isnt it that having the module mentioned in blacklist meant it does not get loaded?
[03:22] <cnmsales> in the ndis gui it shows the driver is installed and hardware present
[03:22] <Thehound666> yes if we can get my gfx card to work
[03:22] <Broam> !grub
[03:22] <Shaezsche> i want to change some things that are set as modules to be part of the kernel
[03:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:23] <Thehound666> had no problems at other house
[03:23] <Thehound666> but here
[03:23] <cnmsales> but when i go to network config the only thing listed in my Elan and Modem
[03:23] <Broam> !grub | Comrade-Sergei
[03:23] <ubotu> Comrade-Sergei: please see above
[03:23] <lineman60> bulmer, yes but i thought there was a configlit with the native dirver and NDIS
[03:23] <Comrade-Sergei> Broam im not doing anything with windows though
[03:23] <Broam> Comrade-Sergei: check the last link then
[03:23] <Broam> Comrade-Sergei: I know some of the install disks allow you to reinstall grub off of them but I've never had to d oit
[03:23] <Garda_> hey guys, on debian i used a command "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" to reconfigure X
[03:23] <Broam> I must leave
[03:24] <Garda_> what's the ubuntu equivelant
[03:24] <Broam> Garda_: dpkg-reconfiguer xserver-xorg
[03:24] <greenman> how do you uninstall a package?
[03:24] <Thehound666> well let me know if an fglrx expert comes in. The one at ati says it supports my card since November
[03:24] <Thehound666> but no love
[03:24] <Broam> Garda_: you know what I mean. :)
[03:24] <unop> cnmsales,  ok, but there are verification steps in the wiki that if you followed should tell you whether or not you are succeeding .. try and find out where you are failing
[03:24] <cnmsales> Unop, i got an error on the second install file of NDIS but didnt realize it was an error at the time
[03:24] <Broam> Me must jet
[03:24] <SurfnKid> Frogzoo: i get two ckermit and gkermit are they either the same
[03:24] <unop> cnmsales,  yes, error messages and warnings are important -- do you know what it was?
[03:25] <lineman60> bulmer, do you know of any good (working) BMC4306 wirless  walkthu
[03:25] <Thehound666> fyi the guide I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:25] <bulmer> lineman60: you can verify if the module is loaded by looking at /boot/config-`uname -r`/ and grep it for your matching bmc nic
[03:25] <SurfnKid> !wireless
[03:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:25] <cnmsales> no unfortunately i dont, the reason I came here was to see how to wipe NDIS and anything else that needs wiping and then start fresh
[03:25] <SurfnKid> lineman60: Edgy?
[03:25] <SurfnKid> lineman60: i used the ndiswrapper walkthru
[03:25] <lineman60> whatone
[03:25] <greenman> how do you uninstall a package?  apt-get uninstall?
[03:25] <lineman60> i have tryed several none of them worked
[03:26] <greenman> :)
[03:26] <zack> Broam: i just checked my dhcp services settings in dd-wrt and it says 'used domain, wan' (instead of wan & lan) and lan domain was empty
[03:26] <Thehound666> no idea but would be useful to know
[03:26] <piedoggie> how can I find out by command or /proc which ethernet cards are seen by the kernal
[03:26] <SurfnKid> lineman60: let me see if i can find you one
[03:26] <Comrade-Sergei> Broam is there a command to just completly wipe the grub thats there and redo just that?
[03:26] <lineman60> when i run nidswrapper -l it shows up working and hardware present
[03:27] <unop> cnmsales,  you shouldnt need to remove anything -- you can install over old/existing packages
[03:27] <Thehound666> if you find out greenman, let me know since I ssh to 1 machine
[03:27] <cnmsales> lineman i had the same thing the -l switch showed my hardware present and working
[03:27] <Frogzoo> SurfnKid: dunno, I user ckermit
[03:27] <lineman60> but when i try to connect it dorps
[03:27] <cnmsales> unop i see, so just start over again?
[03:27] <Openix> greenman: just do apt-get foe help
[03:27] <lineman60> *drops
[03:27] <unop> piedoggie,  lspci
[03:27] <piedoggie> thanks
[03:27] <SurfnKid> Frogzoo: that should work then :P
[03:27] <Openix> apt-get remove
[03:27] <greenman> Openix: thanks
[03:27] <SurfnKid> lineman60: what have you done so far?
[03:27] <Comrade-Sergei> is there a command to just completly wipe the grub thats there and redo just tha
[03:27] <unop> cnmsales,  yea, that'd work for sure -- but pay attention to error messages (if any) and then ask us if you dont know what they mean
[03:28] <lineman60> tryed ndis and the fwcutter
[03:28] <cnmsales> yeah i will for sure this time, also, it says Dapper comes with the open source bcm43xx driver. I know im using edgy but is this something I need be concerned with?
[03:28] <bulmer> Comrade-Sergei: perhaps grub-install will over-write what is there?
[03:28] <unop> greenman,  you got what you wanted? removing a package ...
[03:28] <unop> ?
[03:29] <Thehound666> hack at xorg.conf myself? you're talking to a semi-newbie
[03:29] <Comrade-Sergei> bulmer ok whats that
[03:29] <bulmer> Comrade-Sergei: man grub-install
[03:29] <Comrade-Sergei> thats it?
[03:29] <bulmer> to over-werite, yes
[03:30] <bulmer> to over-write* grub, yes
[03:30] <Thehound666> apt-get remove is right
[03:30] <Thehound666> I got a list of commands
[03:30] <Comrade-Sergei> bulmer whoa what command so i use out of all these
[03:31] <unop> sudo aptitude purge packagename
[03:31] <bulmer> Comrade-Sergei: try reading up first... man grub-install
[03:31] <Thehound666> that too
[03:31] <Thehound666> I suppose
[03:31] <greenman> unop: yup.  Thanks
[03:31] <greenman> and i'm gonna give oops a try as far as proxy goes
[03:31] <greenman> thanks guys
[03:31] <unop> yw
[03:31] <cnmsales> unop, thanks for the help. I will run through the wiki agaoin and get back w/ you if need be
[03:31] <bulmer> Comrade-Sergei: maybe you may also need to use initrd..am not sure in ubuntu..in suse i run mkinitrd
[03:31] <greenman> exit
[03:32] <unop> cnmsales,  :)
[03:32] <Thehound666> oh unop mentioned some fglrx expert that is in here sometimes. who is it?
[03:32] <zack> this sucks, i really have no idea how to fix this
[03:32] <Thehound666> kind of at wit's end
[03:32] <lineman60> SurfnKid: I have used http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174  http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/
[03:32] <unop> Thehound666,  hmm, i wonder who that is
[03:32] <whileimhere> Is there a way to add a folder as a drop down list-menu to the panel.
[03:32] <Comrade-Sergei> bulmer i am so confused what do i do after i do man grub-install
[03:33] <zack> Broam: i found out where the system logs are kept for dd-wrt but now i have to jump through even more hoops just to see that log
[03:33] <Thehound666> unop you mentioned you could walk me through if it were nvidia I thought once but mentioned someone else for ATI
[03:33] <zack> i'm tempted to just give up and reformat
[03:33] <bulmer> Comrade-Sergei: sorry cant help you much deeper
[03:33] <Icehawk78> I changed my Message of the Day, but after my server went down due to a power outage, the message got reverted to the default. Is there a way to prevent this from happening.
[03:33] <unop> Thehound666,  I dont think it was me -- I have no idea about nvidia actually :p
[03:34] <piedoggie> ati has been a major PITA for years
[03:34] <Thehound666> ATI?
[03:34] <piedoggie> y
[03:34] <unop> or ATI
[03:34] <quaal> has anyone been able to edit their gnome menu? under applications? when i try to click on the 'show' box it does not let me ?
[03:34] <Comrade-Sergei> how can i completly reinstall grub
[03:34] <Thehound666> an x1950PRO?
[03:34] <bulmer> Icehawk78: you still have /etc/motd?
[03:34] <unop> Thehound666,  lol no
[03:34] <Thehound666> just want to run natively on my good pc
[03:34] <Thehound666> this card has killed that idea
[03:35] <Icehawk78> Yep, but the file was reverted to the default MOTD.
[03:35] <Comrade-Sergei> how can i completly reinstall grub
[03:35] <piedoggie> I have a laptop (compaq 1700 which has an ati mobility rage chipset) and every release of X11 is worse
[03:35] <littlegator> so, could anyone help sync a motorola Razr to ubuntu?
[03:36] <Icehawk78> I can change the file again and it'll work, but I'm worried about having to do this every time I end up restarting.
[03:36] <dimeotane> I've entered  into my fstab a new fat32 partition and mounted it.  but in nautilus all files are owned by root, and root can't even change the owership or permissions...
[03:36] <dimeotane> Anyone have any suggestions?
[03:36] <bulmer> Icehawk78: then revert it back to your customized version :)
[03:36] <Comrade-Sergei> littlegator with what
[03:36] <boredandblogging> has anyone gotten democracy player .9.5 working with vlc?
[03:36] <dimeotane> here's my fstab entry :              /dev/sda8    /mnt/spaceside vfat  iocharset=utf8,umask=000  0    0
[03:36] <Thehound666> anything outside this guide I should check? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:36] <unop> !ATI
[03:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:36] <Comrade-Sergei> how can i completly reinstall grub
[03:36] <Comrade-Sergei> littlegator bluetooth or usb?
[03:36] <littlegator> Comrade-Sergei: I mean be able to transfer files between my computer and my razr v3m
[03:37] <littlegator> Comrade-Sergei: oh usb
[03:37] <Thehound666> sorry but it may need an update :(
[03:37] <Comrade-Sergei> littlegator it doesnt just recognize it when you plug it in?
[03:37] <unop> dimeotane,  any errors?
[03:37] <Thehound666> it crashes me every time
[03:37] <Comrade-Sergei> i need to reinstall grub somehow how can i do it?
[03:37] <littlegator> Comrade-Sergei: Nothing happens but it's recognized in dmesg and device manager
[03:37] <piedoggie> I've had little success with that as wel
[03:38] <Comrade-Sergei> littlegator how about in /media
[03:38] <Icehawk78> bulmer: Is there a way to prevent it from reverting anytime the power goes out.
[03:38] <bulmer> littlegator: i have vm with xp as guest, load the moto software for the razr and synced it..
[03:38] <Thehound666> the guide piedoggie?
[03:38] <dimeotane> unop: yea.. the files I've copied to the partition from windows are now owned by root and root can't even make any changes to the permissions.. does my fstab look right or is it the problem?
[03:38] <piedoggie> y and the driver
[03:38] <bulmer> Icehawk78: can you not prevent the power from going out?  :)
[03:38] <Comrade-Sergei> lol gaim
[03:38] <Thehound666> piedoggie can you tell me how you got yours working might give me an idea
[03:38] <bulmer> Icehawk78: its so easy of a step..no big deal eh?
[03:38] <Thehound666> ATI has become unified
[03:39] <littlegator> comrade what would it show up as in /media?
[03:39] <littlegator> bulmer what?
[03:39] <lowfront> hey how do I add a irc channel to this?
[03:39] <unop> dimeotane,  well, it's a bad way to ask a question -- yes, it doesnt work, but what did you do exactly, how, and what were the errors you got when that failed?
[03:39] <Icehawk78> Bulmer: Well, the server is on a converted laptop, and it's in a public area in the house... anyone bumps the power cord, and the power goes out.
[03:39] <bulmer> littlegator: which part did you not follow?
[03:39] <Comrade-Sergei> littlegator probably whats there now should be 1 or more hdds maybe a cd drive and the razr
[03:39] <Comrade-Sergei> bulmer your not helping with your sarcasm
[03:40] <lowfront> I need to join this chate
[03:40] <lowfront>  /server irc.torrentleech.org 7011
[03:40] <lowfront> how do i do that?
[03:40] <littlegator> comrade there's my 2 hdds, my 2 cd drives, and 2 floppy drives
[03:40] <bulmer> Icehawk78: duck tape the power cord eh? heck they do that in the airline repair shop i visited.. :)
[03:40] <piedoggie> thehound666:  like I said, I've had little success with either open or closed drivers.  it has been a major frustration
[03:40] <Comrade-Sergei> littlegator hmmm it should be there
[03:40] <dimeotane> unop... I entered that line in fstab.. and then sudo mount -a...
[03:40] <Thehound666> :(
[03:40] <Comrade-Sergei> ummmm
[03:41] <littlegator> uh
[03:41] <Madpilot> wheee... giant netsplit
[03:41] <bulmer> Comrade-Sergei: i am serious about what i said, use duck-tape
[03:41] <Thehound666> we need to make a graphics group to help get PITA hardware working
[03:41] <lowfront> how do I connect to  /server irc.torrentleech.org 7011
[03:41] <lowfront> ?
[03:41] <Comrade-Sergei> littlegator the thing id probably do (being a n00b) is try mount razr or mount moto or something in a terminal
[03:41] <Thehound666> if we want Linux to overthrow greedy Bill's Vista
[03:41] <unop> lowfront,  /join server:port  perhaps?
[03:41] <Se23> hi all ;)
[03:41] <piedoggie> I start by getting close (usually vesa and 1024x768 sub standard resolution)
[03:41] <spinster> hello, i runing linux ubuntu and why when i open irssi and i type my ident for my psyBNC and i type /pass that is wrong command why i can't connect on psyBNC ?
[03:41] <lowfront> aight ill try
[03:41] <Icehawk78> bulmer: lol, I'm not sure how I could do that (effectively)
[03:41] <spinster> can somebody help me
[03:42] <Comrade-Sergei> damn netsplits
[03:42] <quaal> Thehound666, just dont use ATI products
[03:42] <littlegator> comrade I can't mount it, I've tried
[03:42] <spinster> hello, i runing linux ubuntu and why when i open irssi and i type my ident for my psyBNC and i type /pass that is wrong command why i can't connect on psyBNC ?
[03:42] <spinster> can somebody help me
[03:42] <quaal> shouldnt have problem
[03:42] <Thehound666> can you set refresh above 60 Hz with vesa?
[03:42] <piedoggie> then hack on the config until the screen goes dark
[03:42] <Comrade-Sergei> littlegator maybe theres a problem with the hardware
[03:42] <littlegator> Bulmer: What did you mean you had vm with xp as guest?
[03:42] <unop> Thehound666,  maybe we just want to run software the way we want and dont want to have anything to do with billG, even contend with M$
[03:42] <Comrade-Sergei> try anothere cord
[03:42] <Xenguy> greenman: these ones look interesting also (depending on what you actually need to do): oops, simpleproxy, tinyproxy (the last one does anonymizing too, hrm)
[03:42] <piedoggie> I give up, put the laptop back in its bag and go do something else
[03:43] <Comrade-Sergei> OMG how do you reinstall grub from a rescue disc!
[03:43] <lowfront> join/ server irc.torrentleech.org 7011
[03:43] <bulmer> Icehawk78: i park a huge table on top of it..so no one can just bump the frekin power connections..come on be creative..hehehe
[03:43] <littlegator> comrade USB> mini-USB cables aren't exactly common >_>
[03:43] <lowfront> join/ irc.torrentleech.org:7011
[03:43] <bulmer> littlegator: yes i have
[03:43] <lowfront> god damn
[03:43] <unop> lowfront,  /server irc.torrentleech.org:7011
[03:43] <Icehawk78> Well, the issue would be when the wife comes in and physically *moves* it because she doesn't like where it's sitting.
[03:43] <spinster> hello, i runing linux ubuntu and why when i open irssi and i type my ident for my psyBNC and i type /pass that is wrong command why i can't connect on psyBNC ?
[03:43] <spinster> hello, i runing linux ubuntu and why when i open irssi and i type my ident for my psyBNC and i type /pass that is wrong command why i can't connect on psyBNC ?
[03:43] <spinster> 03:43 --psyBNC(psyBNC@lam3rz.de)- Your IRC Client did not support a password.
[03:43] <spinster>           Please type /QUOTE PASS yourpassword to connect.
[03:43] <spinster> 03:43 -!- Irssi: Unknown command: pass
[03:43] <lowfront> aight thanks
[03:43] <spinster> like that
[03:43] <littlegator> bulmer: What?
[03:43] <Comrade-Sergei>  littlegator they arent? ive got to have 50 of em
[03:43] <spinster> please i need help
[03:43] <Thehound666> the only thing I need Bill for now is to run VMWare since it seems Linux does not support my gfx card
[03:44] <unop> lowfront,  what client are you using?
[03:44] <bulmer> littlegator: i have vm with xp as guest os, load the moto software for the razr and synced it..
[03:44] <littlegator> bulmer: what do you mean by vm? Also, I don't have to moto software because lol money
[03:44] <piedoggie> thehound666:  me too except for me it is speach reco.
[03:44] <bulmer> littlegator: sorry, i meant vmware all along..
[03:45] <spinster> HELLO PEOPLE !???????????????????????/
[03:45] <littlegator> vmware? >_>
[03:45] <spinster> can somebody help me OR NO PLEASE TELL ME ?
[03:45] <unop> spinster,  what exact command are you using ?
[03:45] <piedoggie> except I'm burning hands while I wate for headset to recharge
[03:45] <Thehound666> virtual machines
[03:45] <littlegator> Y HELO THAR SPINSTER
[03:45] <Thehound666> windows supports my card
[03:45] <bulmer> littlegator: if you bought the razr, it came with the windows only software
[03:45] <spinster> on xchat i use /pass ( pass )
[03:45] <Thehound666> then Linux runs off vmware
[03:45] <spinster> i don't know on irssi i can't type /pass
[03:45] <spinster>           Please type /QUOTE PASS yourpassword to connect.
[03:45] <spinster> 03:43 -!- Irssi: Unknown command: pass
[03:45] <spinster> look
[03:45] <unop> sincero,  xchat != irssi
[03:45] <Thehound666> Linux supports vmware's virtual gfx card
[03:45] <littlegator> bulmer: oh, did it? >_> Wow, that might help... Let me go check =.=
[03:45] <unop> spinster,  ^^^
[03:45] <spinster> OMG
[03:45] <MAA> hi
[03:46] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[03:46] <piedoggie> I have 4 linux mach running on my laptop right now
[03:46] <bulmer> littlegator: you have to open the box and see what inside sometimes :)
[03:46] <MAA> yer
[03:46] <Thehound666> some laptop
[03:46] <numa> this is kinda surreal
[03:46] <Se23> who know how to install skins for xmms media player?
[03:46] <Thehound666> must hurt battery though
[03:46] <MAA> any of you guys running raid on your ubuntu
[03:46] <EnsignRedshirt> I am getting this message in /var/log/syslog: Feb 17 21:43:17 localhost dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 192.168.1.1 port 67
[03:46] <dimeotane> Does anyone know how to mount a fat32 partition so that I can write and delete files as a user?
[03:46] <turbolover> anyone here use vmware?
[03:46] <Brunellus> does anybody know anything about dapper's init?
[03:46] <pavs> whats default FTP folder in apache? HTTP is /var/www I know that
[03:46] <Frogzoo> !anyone | MAA
[03:46] <Thehound666> I do
[03:46] <ubotu> MAA: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:46] <bulmer> turbolover: i do
[03:46] <EnsignRedshirt> ...followed by many messages like this: Feb 17 21:45:46 localhost last message repeated 5 times
[03:46] <unop> Se23,  usually you just place the skins in ~/.xmms/Skins
[03:46] <piedoggie> 2ghx p4 dual core, 2gb ram 1680x1040 display
[03:46] <MAA> haha
[03:47] <MAA> ya
[03:47] <MAA> i see
[03:47] <bulmer> pavs: you need to look at the httpd.conf or its equivalents
[03:47] <Icehawk78> Oh, one thing for anyone - I'm trying to FTP into my box from Windows, and I'd like to be able to FTP files into the /var/www/uploads folder, but my FTP uploads files into the /home/nicholas folder.
[03:47] <MAA> how do i set up raid on my ubuntu
[03:47] <turbolover> bulmer: for some reason my vmware is broken and wants me to reconfigure, it wants to know the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel, wouldnt that be /usr/rc?
[03:47] <MAA> i used the ubuntu live cd but got no raid drive
[03:47] <turbolover> using DD
[03:47] <vinboy> hi
[03:47] <EnsignRedshirt> 192.168.1.1 is my Cable Router.  What is generating so many DHCPREQUESTs?
[03:47] <pavs> bulmer where is httpd.comf I forgot
[03:47] <EnsignRedshirt> Is that normal?
[03:48] <Falstius> MAA: you already have a hardware raid setup?
[03:48] <vinboy> what theme do you guys use? i want to change from Ubuntu's theme
[03:48] <Thehound666> try a reinstall I would-the easy way. Your virtual machines won't get wiped
[03:48] <MAA> yea
[03:48] <MAA> its setup
[03:48] <Frogzoo> MAA: you need to do the text install off the alternate cd - however raid for / is kind of unnecessary imo
[03:48] <Thehound666> accepting all defaults works
[03:48] <unop> turbolover,  /usr/lib  or /usr/src
[03:48] <bulmer> turbolover: mine once in a while gets removed, so i run that vm-install.pl script..and it re do everything..after i respond yes off course to the prompts
[03:48] <MAA> where is that alternate cd
[03:48] <Icehawk78> pavs: ./etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[03:48] <MAA> i looked at their website
[03:48] <MAA> coudln't find it
[03:48] <MAA> i see ubuntu 6.06 and 6.10
[03:49] <bulmer> pavs: i really dont know, but try  "locate httpd.conf"
[03:49] <MAA> frogzoo what does this mean
[03:49] <MAA> however raid for / is kind of unnecessary imo
[03:49] <littlegator> bulmer: Yeah, well, this wasn't my phone originally. It was a family member's, so we probably have the stuff around somewhere but I can't find it
[03:49] <MAA> raid for root?
[03:49] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  typically it takes a few seconds for a DHCP server to get your request and assign a lease, reply etc -- in that time, your client might send out other requests .. in anycase, it is your own interface doing that
[03:49] <Thehound666> is there anywhere I can have someone(even pay) research my issue?
[03:49] <sethk> littlegator, family member.  family's member is a completely different thing  :)
[03:49] <Frogzoo> MAA: I only raid my data, and you can set that up after you've installed
[03:50] <MAA> ohh
[03:50] <DavidCraft> question:
[03:50] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: Does it really make DHCPREQUESTs about 5 times each minute?
[03:50] <Frogzoo> Thehound666: you can buy support from canonical
[03:50] <MAA> ahh i only got a raid setup
[03:50] <bulmer> littlegator: thats what i did..so go beat up on your lil brother if he cant find your moto cdrom...j/k
[03:50] <littlegator> sethk: I'm not sure what you're talking about >_>
[03:50] <MAA> so its necessary for me to put it on the raid
[03:50] <MAA> i don't wanna loose any of the windows stuff etheir
[03:50] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  err no .. not every minute, no
[03:51] <sethk> littlegator, well, that's probably because I typed it wrong  :)
[03:51] <DavidCraft> I want a bigger HD.  Can I just copy everything from the old hD to the new one and run it?
[03:51] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: That's what seems strange to me.
[03:51] <turbolover> thats annoying, wonder how it got messed up
[03:51] <MAA> if you can lead me to the alternate cd
[03:51] <DavidCraft> it has Ubunto on it
[03:51] <MAA> would be nice
[03:51] <littlegator> !ubuntu
[03:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[03:51] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  it might do that at the end of it's lease but probably only 5 one-off
[03:51] <DavidCraft> it has Ubuntu on it*
[03:51] <littlegator> !ubunto
[03:51] <ubotu> It's spelled Ubuntu! with a U! *Ubuntu*!
[03:51] <sethk> DavidCraft, you can do it, but you wouldn't be using any of the space on the larger drive
[03:51] <DavidCraft> I know sorry
[03:51] <MAA> err nevermind found it
[03:52] <zt1`> samba hard to config ?
[03:52] <sethk> DavidCraft, you can copy it, and then use the additional space as a sparate partition
[03:52] <DARKGuy> lol @ ubotu
[03:52] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  check your routers settings and try and increase the lease time to something reasonable (7 days is good)
[03:52] <DavidCraft> it was ubunto not ubontu
[03:52] <pavs> I got it bulmer icehawk78 was right, but the configuration file is empy nothing there the setup for FTP folder is not in apache2.conf either anyone knows?
[03:52] <DavidCraft> yeesh :P
[03:52] <Thehound666> cannonical has no prices listed though I'd pay a fair amount to say bye to Windows
[03:52] <MAA> yer
[03:52] <MAA> i wanna say bye to my windows
[03:52] <megafauna> Hi, can someone recommend a good ripper/encoder for lame that allows me to use variable bitrate?
[03:52] <MAA> tired of it
[03:53] <DavidCraft> what about if I ajusted the partishon THEN copied all the files over? will it work?
[03:53] <MAA> but im forced to use it at this moment
[03:53] <littlegator> argh I can't find this razr box =.=
[03:53] <DavidCraft> man I cant speel tonight
[03:53] <MAA> yer
[03:53] <DavidCraft> SPELL*
[03:53] <megafauna> Broam: gtkpod won't start for some reason
[03:53] <sethk> DavidCraft, yes, that will work
[03:53] <bulmer> pavs: umm http upload? is that what you are looking for?
[03:53] <Thehound666> I know nothing about RAID under Linux
[03:53] <DavidCraft> ll thx
[03:53] <MAA> ah
[03:53] <sethk> DavidCraft, you'll have to install the boot loader, manually, but other than that copy is fine
[03:53] <Thehound666> only use it at work
[03:53] <Thehound666> under wintrash
[03:53] <DavidCraft> right
[03:53] <slv> how do i change the folder that shows on my desktop? right now it's /home/ian/Desktop, i want to change it to /home/ian
[03:53] <Frogzoo> !raid | MAA
[03:53] <ubotu> MAA: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:54] <MAA> !raid | MAA
[03:54] <MAA> nice
[03:54] <bulmer> pavs: btw..i prefer Tomcat to apache
[03:54] <SurfnKid> Frogzoo: lets say im on a terminal window, and I just want to access /dev/ttyS0 like that... without ckermit could i do it?
[03:54] <pavs> bulmer no I have setup an ftp server, I want to know whats the local folder where the FTP files are located. :)
[03:54] <littlegator> Broam: You wouldn't happen to know how to sync my RAZR with a Windows XP system, would you? >_>
[03:54] <Xenguy> pavs: check the main config file
[03:55] <Icehawk78> I'm trying to FTP into my box from Windows, and I'd like to be able to FTP files into the /var/www/uploads folder, but my FTP uploads files into the /home/nicholas folder. Is there a way to make something like a shortcut?
[03:55] <Frogzoo> SurfnKid: 'sudo cat /dev/ttyS0 ; & echo blah > /dev/ttyS0'
[03:55] <bulmer> pavs: which ftp daemon/server you are using? it surely has its own config file
[03:55] <SurfnKid> a ok
[03:55] <sethk> littlegator, you can download a sync program from the motorola web site
[03:55] <pavs> bulmer I am kinda newbe so I am learning everyday, once I get bored with apache I will try out tomcat
[03:55] <Icehawk78> I tried making a link with ln -s, but Windows can't see that.
[03:55] <littlegator> sethk thanks
[03:55] <pavs> ok checking main config BRB
[03:55] <Frogzoo> SurfnKid: speed still needs to be set - use 'setserial'
[03:55] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: According to /var/log/syslog, for about the last 2 hours, dhclient has been making DHCPREQUESTs about 4 or 5 times each minute.  I don't see any requests before then.
[03:56] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  have you restarted networking?
[03:57] <bulmer> EnsignRedshirt: did you kick the cable connecting your client to the hub/switch?
[03:57] <MAA> damn i gotta comile the kernal
[03:57] <MAA> compile
[03:57] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: As a matter of fact, I did restart networking earlier.  But I think it was more than two hours ago.
[03:57] <quaal> has anyone been able to edit their gnome menu? under applications? when i try to click on the 'show' box it does not let me ?
[03:58] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  is the "problem" still continuing?
[03:58] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: Yes.
[03:58] <rave> hi
[03:58] <rave> everybdy
[03:58] <bulmer> pavs: you may wanted to look at mod_upload for http uploads versus, and ftp upload
[03:58] <SilentDis> hello :)
[03:58] <SurfnKid> Frogzoo: ok
[03:58] <rave> can any body help me with my grub
[03:59] <SilentDis> !anybody | rave
[03:59] <ubotu> rave: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:59] <MAA> in ubuntu i tried to install flash but said incorrect chip, i used the 64bit install cd
[03:59] <SilentDis> !grub | rave
[03:59] <ubotu> rave: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:59] <MAA> how do i install 32bit files
[03:59] <SurfnKid> Frogzoo: setserial isnt found :/
[04:00] <Flannel> !chroot | MAA
[04:00] <ubotu> MAA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[04:00] <SurfnKid> Frogzoo: nevermind I installed it
[04:00] <MAA> ah nice
[04:00] <rave> i had windows xp installed in my system but it is not booting after i installed ubuntu
[04:00] <tripppy> how do i change main username?
[04:01] <Boohbah> tripppy: vi /etc/passwd
[04:01] <SilentDis> tripppy, System > Administration > Users and Groups
[04:01] <MAA> should i make my life easier and get the 32bit version
[04:01] <riotkittie> MAA: yes.
[04:01] <riotkittie> :P
[04:01] <SilentDis> tripppy, or what boohbah said, if you're into doing it from a prompt and directly :)
[04:01] <MAA> yer good iear
[04:01] <MAA> idear
[04:01] <tripppy> ok. thankx. i ddint look around enuff
[04:02] <vox754> see you all next weekend
[04:02] <SilentDis> tripppy, always happy to answer the easy ones.  makes us look smart ;)
[04:02] <rave>  i had windows xp installed in my system but it is not booting after i installed ubuntu
[04:02] <Boohbah> sorry, i come from gentoo, doing my first ubuntu install tonight :)
[04:02] <HLM> !edgy upgrade
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edgy upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <SilentDis> Boohbah, I really like the debian packaging system myself.  VERY easy and clean :)
[04:03] <SilentDis> !upgrade | HLM
[04:03] <ubotu> HLM: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:03] <Thehound666> tell them what you think of their drivers-I am http://support.ati.com/ics/survey/survey.asp?deptID=894&surveyID=508&type=web
[04:03] <Thehound666> lol
[04:03] <ub2> rave your in trouble
[04:03] <SilentDis> rave, do you get an error when you try to boot?  do you see it in the bootloader?  elucidate please :)
[04:03] <rave> hey boohbah among gentoo and edgy which one is better
[04:04] <rave> no i cant see it in boot loader
[04:04] <Xenguy> rave: gentoo =)
[04:04] <SilentDis> rave, can you see the partition at all?
[04:04] <Thehound666> best thing I can do right now. Maybe they will help to keep a customer
[04:04] <rave> ya partition is there
[04:05] <ub2> rave think you installed over  is that the case or did you partition another before
[04:05] <SilentDis> rave, preface my name to your comments.  makes it easier to track.  just type sil<tab><tab> and it'll fill in :)
[04:05] <rave> i used another partition
[04:05] <SilentDis> rave, ok, if you see the partition, what is it?  HDxx or SDxx?
[04:05] <rave> but i didnt made any partion for boot
[04:06] <tripppy> ok another easyone. how do i setup a program to start on startup?
[04:06] <emet> I can't get fglrx working :(
[04:06] <rave> its hdd6
[04:06] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: I restarted networking again, and the repeated DHCPREQUESTs have stopped.
[04:06] <Xenguy> tripppy: any particular program?
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys what does "fsck died" with exit status fail mean
[04:06] <SilentDis> tripppy, System > Prefrences > Sessions > Startup Programs.  if you just want it to start when you launch x.
[04:06] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  heh .. odd, aint it? :)
[04:06] <ardchoille> tripppy: System -> Preferences -> Sessions, go to the Startup Programs tab
[04:06] <Xenguy> tripppy: what SilentDis said
[04:06] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: Ghosts...
[04:06] <cnmsale2> unop are you available
[04:06] <Thehound666> part of my feedback on fglrx
[04:06] <Thehound666> PS-Will not get another ATI card if they won't work on Linux-very frustrating.
[04:07] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  was it for a network interface you werent using?
[04:07] <Quintin> Migration SUCCESSFUL.
[04:07] <unop> sure cnmsale2 whats happening?
[04:07] <Quintin> Thehound666: ati sux, intel rulez
[04:07] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: No, it was eth0
[04:07] <ub2> rave how are you seeing the partitions?
[04:07] <SilentDis> Thehound666, I ended up upgrading my aging ATI hardware myself.  Nice little Nvidia 8600 in there now :)
[04:07] <cnmsale2> ok i installed common-*.deb no error
[04:07] <rave> through file browser
[04:07] <Thehound666> intel? I had one way back, couldn't do any gaming
[04:07] <cnmsale2> installed utils no error
[04:07] <Thehound666> or 3D
[04:07] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  and that is? wireless or wired? the one you use primarily?
[04:07] <tripppy> im running xubuntu. i cant see the  startup programs
[04:08] <tripppy> ive got session and startup
[04:08] <ub2> rave is it file browser on ubuntu?
[04:08] <SilentDis> tripppy, aahh, I haven't mucked with xubuntu yet, sorry :(
[04:08] <unop> cnmsale2,  address me (use tabcomplete) .. so my IRC client highlights your messages and i dont miss em :)
[04:08] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: Wired. I don't have wireless, or any other network interfaces.
[04:08] <cnmsale2> then when installing ndisgtk it says  ndisgtk: dependancy problems, but configuring anyway as you request: ndisgtk depends on utils however utils is not installed
[04:08] <rave> no it is mounted on /media hdd6
[04:08] <cnmsale2> unop k
[04:08] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  and has the computer been on for quite something?
[04:08] <Thehound666> We greatly appreciate you taking the time to submit your feedback.
[04:08] <Thehound666> lol they say that until they read it
[04:09] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  sometime*
[04:09] <rave> i mean /media/hdd6
[04:09] <cnmsale2> unop: then when installing ndisgtk it says  ndisgtk: dependancy problems, but configuring anyway as you request: ndisgtk depends on utils however utils is not installed
[04:09] <SilentDis> rave, if the partition with windows is all the way over on /dev/hdd6... it'll take a bit of poking to get it to work right in grub.  check the howto, I THINK it has the info you need.
[04:09] <SilentDis> !grub | rave
[04:09] <ubotu> rave: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:09] <unop> cnmsale2,  yep, i got that one :)
[04:09] <tripppy> ardchoille, im running xubuntu. there is no startup programs option
[04:09] <cnmsale2> unop: k
[04:09] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: I lied... ppp0 also shows up (I use a pptp vpn), but the messages in /var/log/syslog said the requests were from eth0.
[04:10] <ub2> rave can you mount the partition where xp was ?
[04:10] <rave> i have made entries in grub
[04:10] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  liar :((
[04:10] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: Oh, and yes, the computer has been on for a relatively long time.
[04:10] <rave> but its not working
[04:10] <SilentDis> !who | rave
[04:10] <ubotu> rave: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:10] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: Maybe my, um, whatchamacallit IP assignment expired?
[04:11] <SilentDis> rave, what entry did you put in, and where?
[04:11] <Thehound666> think ATI will support me with all that negative feedback threatening not to buy another?
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys what does "fsck died" with exit status fail mean
[04:11] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  it's likely that the DHCP lease was at  87.5% of it's lifetime, the time at which your computer tries and renews the lease and it kept trying to get the DHCP server but the server didnt bother
[04:11] <ardchoille> tripppy: It's quite diffictule to properly answer questions when we don't know the distro you are running. This is #ubuntu, therefore I assume everyone here is running Ubuntu. If you're running xubuntu, then I would assume you belong in #xubuntu.
[04:12] <rave> SilentDis i am pasting my windows entries below
[04:12] <SilentDis> Paddy_EIRE, sounds like it was doing a check during boot, and encountered problems.  did you just get this?  might have to boot from cd and manually fsck your drive
[04:12] <SilentDis> !paste | rave
[04:12] <ubotu> rave: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:12] <ardchoille> tripppy: I have no idea how to help you with xubuntu
[04:12] <unop> cnmsale2,  sorry, was that it? were you expecting a reply? i thought you had more to say
[04:12] <rave>  title          Windows 95/98/NT/2000
[04:12] <rave>  root           (hd0,5)
[04:12] <rave>  makeactive
[04:12] <rave>  savedefault
[04:12] <rave>  chainloader    +1
[04:12] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: Let me see if I can check that...
[04:12] <cnmsale2> unop: lol no that is the error im getting
[04:12] <unop> !paste | rave
[04:12] <ubotu> rave: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:12] <zOap> how do I test root file system?
[04:12] <SilentDis> rave, next time, use the pastebin please
[04:12] <Paddy_EIRE> SilentDis, well when I was In win my comp locked up while playing a game and I had to reset
[04:13] <unop> cnmsale2,  :) ok -- run this command then -- sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper-utils
[04:13] <SilentDis> Paddy_EIRE, sounds like it hit an error during the reboot.  got your livecd handy?
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> SilentDis, then when I booted ubuntu I got that error
[04:13] <rave> SilentDi ok
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> SilentDis, yep, I'll be back In a mo
[04:13] <SilentDis> Paddy_EIRE, ok
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> I hope yet another hdd hasnt died on me
[04:14] <SilentDis> rave, it looks like you'll need to 'trick' windows into thinking it's the primary drive, I believe it's called mapping, give me a moment please...
[04:14] <cnmsale2> ok its asking me to insert ubuntu cd
[04:14] <cnmsale2> doing so now
[04:14] <unop> cnmsale2,  is that machine on the internet?
[04:15] <rave> SilentDis ok
[04:15] <will_> How do I change root's password?
[04:15] <cnmsale2> no it isnt on the internet
[04:15] <subopt> Is 6.10 the same as Feisty?
[04:15] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: It looks like the lease lasts 10 hours, so your theory could be correct.
[04:15] <unop> !sudo | will_
[04:15] <ubotu> will_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:15] <Frogzoo> SurfnKid: I think you want stty to set line speed, not setserial
[04:15] <CaptainMorgan> math
[04:15] <Securify> hi i'm new to ubuntu, I have an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ proc and wanted to know if i'm better just running the 32-bit version of ubuntu because of the lack of 64 bit linux drivers?
[04:15] <SilentDis> will_, root is not enabled by default.  you can sudo to a root environment from your main user account instead.
[04:15] <unop> cnmsale2,  ok, no worries .. continue
[04:15] <CaptainMorgan> oops
[04:15] <EnsignRedshirt> subopt: 6.10 is Edgy.
[04:16] <Frogzoo> Securify: for desktop use, stick to 32bit
[04:16] <emet> sudo -i does almost the same as su -
[04:16] <Securify> k, thx frogzoo
[04:16] <emet> except sudo -i is a bit more secure
[04:16] <cnmsale2> unop: ok it said selecting previously deslected package ndis utils
[04:16] <subopt> EnsignRedshirt: Where can i download Feisty?
[04:16] <cnmsale2> unop: did this twice from two diff dir then went to new bas line
[04:17] <Frogzoo> !feisty
[04:17] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:17] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  If it's wired connections -- i set my DHCP server to let the lease time be "forever" or as long as it'll allow
[04:17] <emet> I am using fiesty
[04:17] <emet> ati is broke on it
[04:17] <unop> cnmsale2,  was it a fairly long output .. about 10 lines?
[04:17] <SilentDis> rave, you'll need to add 2 lines to your config, to map the partition to the primary for windows to boot.  see this page from the grub manual: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/DOS_002fWindows.html#DOS_002fWindows
[04:18] <AdamF2> Morning all :)  Is there a logical reason apt-index-watch is consuming large chunks of CPU-time every 3 or 4 seconds? It's the first time I've had the 'problem'.  (Edgy, 2.6.17-11-386)
[04:18] <rave> SilentDis ok
[04:18] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: I'll see if I can do that... I can't see any reason for the lease to expire.
[04:18] <cnmsale2> mmmm not really with both couting each line it was 7
[04:18] <BAbuntu> hi, im having a problem with broken packages
[04:18] <cnmsale2> unop:
[04:18] <maa468> hey i have the Ubunto 6.06 live DVD does it come with the alternate installer?
[04:18] <oritemis> guys, where I can get support for kiba-dock?
[04:19] <oritemis> I am getting compilation error.
[04:19] <BAbuntu> guys what can i do if i have brokn packages that will not allow me to install or remove anyuthing
[04:19] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  well, the lease can expire if the DHCP server doesnt respond in a timely fashion or it denies the client an extension on the lease
[04:19] <Conman1303> i'm having a problem with my java plugins, i installed the packages via synaptic, but when i go to play yahoo games it won't work, any ideas?
[04:19] <SilentDis> BAbuntu, could you pastebin the error you're getting?
[04:19] <AdamF2> BAbuntu: Which packages is it complaining about?
[04:19] <cnmsale2> unop:  ok ran the ndis gui
[04:19] <Flannel> Conman1303: aren't yahoo games shockwave?
[04:19] <cnmsale2> installed the driver
[04:20] <cnmsale2> and now my wireless card is listed
[04:20] <BAbuntu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2083087
[04:20] <unop> cnmsale2,  looking good :)
[04:20] <BAbuntu> im having this problem with graphviz-cairo
[04:20] <cnmsale2> ok great so go ahead and configure it for Static then
[04:20] <maa468> hey i have the Ubunto 6.06 live DVD does it come with the alternate installer?
[04:21] <BAbuntu> SilenceGold, AdamF2  any ideas
[04:21] <rave>  SilentDis  when i gave this hide (hd0,6) it said no patition
[04:21] <SilentDis> maa468, the DVD contains both the desktop and alternate installers, as well as a bunch of extra packages
[04:21] <EnsignRedshirt> subopt: Did the information from ubotu help?  You know that Feisty is not officially released yet?  Installing Feisty means you are doing beta testing (which is great!).  Check out the big green box at ubuntuforums.org about "Herd 4", the name of the latest release candidate.
[04:21] <borris_the_jeste> unity, i believe so.
[04:21] <oritemis> guys, where I can get support for kiba-dock?
[04:21] <oritemis> I am getting compilation error.
[04:21] <unop> cnmsale2,  yea, i suppose .. if you know what you are doing :)
[04:21] <maa468> SilentDis how do i use the alternate installer?
[04:21] <unity> hi, i just installed ubuntu desktop but i wanted to install ubuntu server (server install cd's were not available at the time), how can i transform ubuntu desktop into server? e.g. i want to take many things out of the startup list that i don't need
[04:21] <BAbuntu> orion2012, whats it complaining about
[04:21] <cnmsale2> lol yeah, i do
[04:21] <SilentDis> rage, grub starts counting from 0, so if it's partition 6, it needs to be specified at 0,5 :)
[04:21] <unity> uninstalling xorg is not a priority
[04:21] <cnmsale2> i got it configured no
[04:21] <cnmsale2> now
[04:22] <SilentDis> maa468, when you boot, there's an option for 'text based' or the like, i believe :)
[04:22] <daum> anyone here have a working JRE herE?
[04:22] <maa468> ahh i see
[04:22] <maa468> thanks
[04:22] <AdamF2> BAbuntu, just looking at the page. Although resolving issues isn't my speciality, I'd try compiling it from source if you're having problems with the package. It's obviously b0rked.
[04:22] <cnmsale2> unop: will blacklisting the free drivers be nessicary?
[04:22] <unop> unity,  was that kubuntu or ubuntu?
[04:22] <unity> unop: ubuntu
[04:22] <unity> borris_the_jeste: what was that in response to?
[04:22] <unop> cnmsale2,  I shouldnt think so
[04:22] <cnmsale2> ok then, i will continue with the wiki
[04:23] <cnmsale2> either way I will be back in a bit to let you know what has happene
[04:23] <cnmsale2> thank you for your help
[04:23] <merlin2049er> hi, my xwindows fails to load, how do i reset my video display
[04:23] <AdamF2> So anyone have any wild theories as to why apt-index-watch is going mad every few seconds, consuming 100% cpu, then sleeping for 4 seconds and doing it all again?
[04:23] <unity> unop: like on gentoo, i would do "rc-update remove gdm default" to stop the welcome screen
[04:23] <SilentDis> BAbuntu, looks like something got stuck with that package.  if you're willing to orphan it for now so you can get apt back to a workable state, you can restore an old sources.list file, i believe
[04:23] <unity> unop: not sure what the equivalent on ubuntu is
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> SilentDis: ok Im on the LiveCD
[04:23] <SilentDis> Paddy_EIRE, wb :)
[04:23] <unop> unity,  you can follow the instructions here on remove gnome totally - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde - i'd suggest removing the xorg packages too with this command  sudo aptitude remove $(aptitude search xorg | cut -c 3-30 | xargs)
[04:24] <maa468> gonna go try out my ubuntu
[04:24] <oritemis> guys, please take a look into this compilation error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6333/
[04:24] <unop> unity,  ohh err, so you want to disable the GUI boot, is that all??
[04:24] <SilentDis> Paddy_EIRE, ok, which drive did it fail on?
[04:24] <Zilus> hi
[04:24] <BAbuntu> it is the old one
[04:24] <BAbuntu> the default one
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> SilentDis: i only have 1 now, ahh hd0 ithink
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[04:25] <Paddy_EIRE> SilentDis: hda1
[04:25] <HarunAs-Sami> When I go to System -> Quit, I no longer have the option to shutdown, just options for logging off and switching users, etc. Why is this?
[04:25] <unity> unop: rather than deleting them, just taking them out of the default init runlevel should be enough
[04:25] <unop> unity,  on debian/ubuntu the command is "update-rc.d" -- it can be used to disable gdm too
[04:25] <Dustyhawk> hello people, got a question. I just installed ubuntu dapper (after much hate of windows). right now im trying to change my hdd's file permission but it's denying me. though im the only user for this laptop.
[04:25] <SilentDis> BAbuntu, in /etc/apt, there's sources.list and sources.list~.  you should be able to backup the current one, then copy that ~ one over .
[04:25] <Zilus> guys, I am tired of reding bcm43xx tutorials and cant make my wireless card to work
[04:25] <unity> unop: and i might come back asking what else i can disable, like setting console font for example
[04:26] <SilentDis> Paddy_EIRE, ok.  from a prompt, use this command:  sudo fsck -f -C /dev/hda1
[04:26] <unop> unity,  errm, not if you disable just the gdm from the runlevels no
[04:26] <rave> SilentDis  makeactive  is saying Error 12: Invalid device requested
[04:26] <BAbuntu> SilentDis, testing
[04:26] <Xenguy> Dustyhawk: prepend the word 'sudo' to your command, but be careful as you are now giving commands as root/superuser
[04:26] <SilentDis> rave, please pastebin your current grub config, and a quick note about what you're looking to do, I think i'll have to actually 'see' it to help :)
[04:27] <Zilus> I alredy try de ndiswrapper method and the cutter one, Can someone help me please, I understand taht this kind of questions have you already tired :( but I promise that I tried a lot
[04:27] <SilentDis> !pastebin | rave
[04:27] <ubotu> rave: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:27] <cnmsale2> unop: ok i ran sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and it stated warning etc/modprobe.d/blacklist line 27: ignoring bad line starting with 'blacklist'
[04:27] <Paddy_EIRE> SilentDis: i know ur busy but out of interest what do the -f -c switches do
[04:27] <SilentDis> Paddy_EIRE, -f forces a check.  -C gives  you that nice little progress bar :)
[04:28] <Paddy_EIRE> cool
[04:28] <patrialt> is there any way to make the equivilent to a windows shortcut on my Ubuntu desktop?
[04:28] <unop> cnmsale2, errm, wait a minute-- if the ndis-gui has already detected your card, it means the drivers/modules have already been modprobed
[04:28] <cnmsale2> unop: i also ran tail /var/log/messages and the only error i see is ndiswrapper setting encryption mode to 0 failed
[04:28] <SilentDis> patrialt, yep.  right click, and choose 'create launcher' :)
[04:28] <patrialt> k ty
[04:28] <cnmsale2> ok, well I was just doing what the wiki said
[04:28] <unop> cnmsale2,  yea, it looks like you've already modprobed the driver or it is sticking from the last time you tried to install ndisrapper
[04:28] <EnsignRedshirt> unop: I can't set the lease to last forever, but it is now set for 30 days... much longer than this computer remains turned on.  Thanks for your help.
[04:29] <patrialt> silentdis only option im getting is "create archive"
[04:29] <unop> EnsignRedshirt,  :)
[04:29] <Dustyhawk> xen - what else do i do after the "sudo"
[04:29] <cnmsale2> well like i said it shows hardware and drivers present and installed
[04:29] <SilentDis> patrialt, you have to right click on the DESKTOP, not the icon you want to shortcut to :)
[04:29] <patrialt> oic xD
[04:29] <patrialt> Thanks Silentdis
[04:29] <Zilus> someone?
[04:29] <SilentDis> patrialt, nt :)
[04:29] <Zilus> :(
[04:30] <SilentDis> Zilus, it's a busy channel, please repost your question
[04:30] <BAbuntu> SilentDis, E: graphviz-cairo: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[04:30] <kurt> ok anyone know ati drivers in ubuntu ?
[04:30] <Xenguy> Dustyhawk: what are you trying to do?
[04:30] <kurt> i tried almost everything
[04:30] <unop> cnmsale2,  errm, if you browse the wiki .. you should be able to find a section on connecting to the access point, it should be safe to carry on from there on
[04:30] <merlin2049er> ati drivers suck for ubuntu
[04:30] <kurt> i noticed
[04:30] <kurt> the graphical installer crashed out
[04:30] <SilentDis> BAbuntu, aargh, then it's the same problem in the backup too.  not sure what to do for that one, it'll probably take a bit of editing of the sources.list file itself, which is WAY over my head.  sorry :(
[04:30] <unop> BAbuntu,  use a !pastebin (dont paste in here) the output you see there
[04:30] <trinkolade> I know ATI-Drivers, as far as I remember, there are some!
[04:30] <merlin2049er> i bet u can't log off correctly
[04:31] <SilentDis> !ati
[04:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:31] <SilentDis> !envy
[04:31] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[04:31] <kurt> i tried from the add/remove
[04:31] <BAbuntu> unop, it was a one liner dont worry i dont flood
[04:31] <kurt> oho
[04:31] <Zilus> SilenceGold: I already read a lot of tutorials about bcm43xx and I still cant make it work
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> SilentDis: everything appears to have passed
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:31] <Dustyhawk> xen well right now my c:\ permission is all READ Only. but Write and Execute cannot be checked. it states "permission could not be changed"
[04:31] <Zilus> sorry, SilentDis
[04:31] <unop> BAbuntu,  is this a result of a command?
[04:31] <SilentDis> Paddy_EIRE, there's no other partitions on the machine?
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> SilentDis: the windowsxp one
[04:32] <BAbuntu> unop, no im trying to apt-install stuff and it says i have 2 broken packages
[04:32] <unop> Dustyhawk,  linux does not provide write access to windows/ntfs partitions out of the box, you need !ntfs-3g
[04:32] <kurt> nights in white satin
[04:32] <cnmsale2> unop:  ok but i need to make sure im able to view pages before i do sudo ndiswrapper -m right?
[04:32] <unop> !ntfs-3g | Dustyhawk
[04:32] <ubotu> Dustyhawk: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:32] <SilentDis> Paddy_EIRE, ok, if it didn't error out, your next boot should be just fine.  any problems it found were corrected without user intervention :)
[04:32] <BAbuntu> graphviz-cairo and totemstreamer
[04:32] <newk> Hey, I'm new to ubuntu and Linux in general....
[04:32] <kurt> by the by anyone "rediscovering" moody blues must be pretty old
[04:32] <newk> And I have a problem
[04:32] <SilentDis> newk, ask away :)
[04:32] <Dustyhawk> unop . many thanks i'll look into that
[04:32] <newk> I'm trying to download the package for GNU robots
[04:33] <newk> But it says that it can't find the package
[04:33] <Paddy_EIRE> SilentDis: is there anyway to check the win partition using the ubuntu livecd
[04:33] <SilentDis> Paddy_EIRE, is it an NTFS drive?
[04:33] <newk> I'm using "sudo apt-get install
[04:33] <rave> SilentDis i have pasted it
[04:33] <unop> BAbuntu,  so you must have quite some output at the command line there right? thats what i asked you to pastebin :p
[04:33] <SilentDis> rave, url?
[04:33] <BAbuntu> unop, one second
[04:33] <Paddy_EIRE> SilentDis: i have ntfs write
[04:33] <unop> cnmsale2,  errm, i'm not sure what ndiswrapper -m does -- i've never used it personally -- what does it do?
[04:33] <rave> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6336/
[04:34] <cnmsale2> it makes it start at boot up everytime
[04:34] <EnsignRedshirt> Did ubuntuforums.org just become unavailable for anyone else?
[04:34] <trinkolade> Dustyhawk, if you want a partition to share files, you will probably want to take a look at the ext2-drivers for Win-XP, they work well for me
[04:34] <SilentDis> Paddy_EIRE, the live CD doesn't ;)  you can check it next you're in your main system (without the live cd) by unmounting the drive and doing the same command
[04:34] <oritemis> hey, may someone /please/ help me with? I already googled a lot, and nothing.
[04:34] <vote4arealclown> any want to recommond a app to burn dvds with?
[04:35] <Dustyhawk> hmm. i actually used the live-cd installed and chose the..what was it... delete partition thingy
[04:35] <BAbuntu> unop, this same problem exactlty http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2083087
[04:35] <Dustyhawk> its not even an ntfs hdd
[04:36] <trinkolade> Dustyhawk, sry, what are you looking for?
[04:36] <unop> BAbuntu,  heh, i cant get to ubuntuforums.org -- seems down from here
[04:36] <Xenguy> Dustyhawk: if it is FAT32 then linux can read it and write to it
[04:36] <unop> cnmsale2,  thats fine to do then -- yep
[04:37] <cnmsale2> ok then is there a network manager in ubuntu that shows you available wireless connections?
[04:37] <merlin2049er> how do i fix my video display, xwindows doesnt start ?
[04:37] <Dustyhawk> xen - file type says Extended 3
[04:37] <BAbuntu> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6337/
[04:37] <unop> cnmsale2,  aye, i believe it is called network-admin
[04:37] <Dustyhawk> trink - getting the hdd to write and execute
[04:37] <cnmsale2> ok then I will h ave a look for that, thanks again for your help
[04:37] <rave> unop can u plz grive me repositry source list of edgy
[04:38] <unop> rave,  yep, 2 seconds
[04:38] <Xenguy> Dustyhawk: if you type 'xen' then hit TAB to complete the nick, I will actually notice your comments in this channel :-)
[04:38] <unop> BAbuntu,  ok, what you need to do is edit this file and comment out the line that says "set -e" (add a # to the beginning of the line) - /var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postrm
[04:38] <Xenguy> Dustyhawk: ext3 is a linux filesystem type
[04:39] <Frogzoo> vote4arealclown: k3b
[04:39] <dez> How do I get a wireless card (benkin f5v7000) working with ubuntu 6.10?
[04:39] <trinkolade> Dustyhawk, I don't know exactly what you mean, but it should work with remounting the partition with "-o exec, rw"
[04:39] <unop> rave,  http://pastebin.ca/348620
[04:39] <MAA> no good man, it didn't detect my raid
[04:39] <sunexplodes> hey guys, is the forum down, or is it just me?
[04:39] <rave> unop thanx
[04:39] <unop> sunexplodes,  looks down from here
[04:39] <EnsignRedshirt> sunexplodes: I can't get in either.
[04:39] <Xenguy> sunexplodes: I dunno, what is the URL
[04:40] <Paddy_EIRE> thx SilentDis :)
[04:40] <sunexplodes> cool, glad to hear it's not a problem on my end
[04:40] <Xenguy> heh
[04:40] <Dustyhawk> remount ? so .. i just typed out "-o exec, rw" on the terminal ? (minus the " " of course)
[04:40] <unop> dez,  is that a USB or PCI card
[04:40] <ub2> rave on your paste do not see where you made changes sil ask? did you?
[04:40] <unop> ?
[04:41] <EnsignRedshirt> sunexplodes: It's back.
[04:41] <sunexplodes> fantastic.
[04:41] <rave> ub2 wat u mean???
[04:42] <ub2> rave am following along so as to not confuse.. did you change to hide or trick windows?
[04:42] <SilentDis> rave, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6338/
[04:43] <trinkolade> Dustyhawk, no, unmount the partition with "umount partition" and the re-mount it again with "mount -t $filesystemtype /dev/hdx /mount/point -o exec,rw" but usually there is an automounter installed which mounts the partition automatically with predefined options. Try to edit your fstab or whatever. Have you read tutorials on it?
[04:43] <unop> cnmsale2,  how'e you getting on? any luck ?
[04:43] <cnmsale2> nah
[04:43] <cnmsale2> lol
[04:43] <cnmsale2> i just installed network manager
[04:44] <rave> SilentDis ya
[04:44] <cnmsale2> but its not showing up under start
[04:44] <BAbuntu> thanks unop
[04:44] <Trixsey> Is it possible to install recommended modules as part of a package, but not the entire package?
[04:45] <Dustyhawk> trinkolade: i did try that.. but it keeps saying only root can do that
[04:45] <trinkolade> Trixsey, if you specify the certain package, yes
[04:45] <unop> BAbuntu,  it working now?
[04:45] <trinkolade> Dustyhawk, yes, you have to put a sudo in front of it
[04:45] <Trixsey> trinkolade, ok.. how?
[04:45] <BAbuntu> u commented out set and dot
[04:46] <cnmsale2> unop: ifconfig shows wlan0 is recieveing packets but not sending
[04:46] <yharrow> hey
[04:46] <yharrow> anybody here from new york?
[04:46] <trinkolade> Trixsey, how is the name of the package you want to install?
[04:46] <Trixsey> Eclipse
[04:46] <Trixsey> without gcj
[04:46] <unop> cnmsale2,  ok, looks like its working ok then - might be an IP addressing issue -- can you ping your own IP address?
[04:47] <cnmsale2> how to do from terminal?
[04:47] <trinkolade> Trixsey, that won't work, because Eclipse needs gcj as far as I know, but let me see first
[04:47] <cnmsale2> shouldnt be an ip adress issue, i have dhcp in router off
[04:47] <unop> Trixsey,  I believe that'd be close to impossible -- eclipse is so tied in with gcj, it wouldnt operate without it
[04:47] <Trixsey> trinkolade, I checked about an hour ago.. said it was just suggested package
[04:47] <cnmsale2> this same machine on xp was set up with an ip of 192.168.1.100 sm 255.255.255.0 and gw 192.168.1.1
[04:47] <Trixsey> recommended
[04:47] <cnmsale2> dns is 192.168.1.1
[04:48] <unop> cnmsale2,  ping 192.168.1.1
[04:48] <kurt> ok...
[04:48] <kurt> here we go again
[04:48] <cnmsale2> net unreachable, but unop I havent told it to connect to my wireless conection point yet
[04:48] <cnmsale2> so
[04:49] <majortom> if i tar something and i tell it --exclude=./.*, would that not exclude config files
[04:49] <unop> cnmsale2,  ahh, right, so that needs to be done before anything else
[04:50] <cnmsale2> unop: yeah
[04:50] <cnmsale2> but dont know how to do that
[04:50] <quaal> does anyone use the electric sheep screensaver?
[04:50] <unop> majortom,  only if those config files exist in that directory and have filenames that begin with a .
[04:50] <cnmsale2> i would prefer a gui for that
[04:50] <SiliconViper> quaal, I do.
[04:50] <majortom> unop, right ok but would that include directories name .*
[04:50] <quaal> SilenceGold, where do you put the sheep?
[04:50] <trinkolade> Trixsey, does it install the recommended packages?
[04:51] <cnmsale2> got it unop
[04:51] <cnmsale2> friend had me run nm-applet
[04:51] <SiliconViper> Hmm... I wonder how useful it would be to stream data over an audio patch cable. Line Out on one system to Line In on another.
[04:51] <cnmsale2> bingo
[04:51] <unop> majortom,  aye -- if you do echo .* you should see it globbed
[04:51] <oritemis> guys, to compile kiba-dock I need some dev tools, where I can get the complet list of this dev tools?
[04:51] <SiliconViper> quaal, ~/.sheep
[04:52] <shark-1> how do i make my inactive windows not transparent in kde
[04:52] <Trixsey> trinkolade, yes
[04:52] <Trixsey> it does
[04:52] <majortom> well on the output it has been saying ./.Trash/whatever.file, is it still ignoring those?
[04:52] <unop> cnmsale2,  nice :D
[04:52] <Zhurichard> why i cant use Fn+f7?
[04:52] <unop> cnmsale2,  you on the net then?
[04:52] <dez> iwconfig wlan0 is telling me the wireless card is connected to the ap but for some reason it times out on the dhcp
[04:52] <trinkolade> oritemis, there should be README with the package that tells you what you need to compile it and how you compile it.
[04:52] <cnmsale2> not yet unop
[04:52] <Thehound666> when will the open ATI driver support my card, since ati themselves stink?
[04:53] <cnmsale2> wouldnt join the network
[04:53] <unop> majortom,  maybe --exclude=.* ??
[04:53] <cnmsale2> trying again
[04:53] <unop> cnmsale2,  oh ok
[04:53] <trinkolade> Trixsey, do you try to install it from synaptic?
[04:53] <majortom> unop, i will try it, thanks
[04:53] <quaal> SilenceGold, awesome
[04:53] <quaal> thankyou
[04:53] <majortom> unop, very good its working1
[04:53] <SiliconViper> quaal, anytime.
[04:53] <Trixsey> trinkolade, apt-get/aptitude
[04:53] <unop> majortom,  :)
[04:53] <Thehound666> I really need to get this working. My VMWare expires soon
[04:54] <Trixsey> trinkolade, synaptic is not working.. nor are apt/aptitude
[04:54] <Thehound666> then no more Ubuntu
[04:54] <cnmsale2> unop:  nope wont connect
[04:54] <yharrow> anybody here know the IRC command for adding a real name to a  profile
[04:54] <unop> cnmsale2,  when you are connecting .. what does the /var/log/messages file say?
[04:55] <unop> cnmsale2,  i'd suggesting monitoring these three files like this  tail -f /var/log/{messages,syslog,dmesg}
[04:55] <cnmsale2> ok will try that then
[04:56] <yharrow> anybody know?
[04:56] <UdontKnow> Thehound666: paying?
[04:56] <elkbuntu> yharrow, investigate nickserv with /msg nickserve help
[04:56] <yharrow> hound I beleive that there is a dedicated support available from cannonical for a fee
[04:57] <Thehound666> might have to
[04:57] <yharrow> thanks elk
[04:57] <Thehound666> noone has solved this issue in 2 months
[04:57] <UdontKnow> Thehound666: there are a ton of companies that might support you if you pay :)
[04:57] <HarunAs-Sami> When I go to System -> Quit, I no longer have the option to shutdown, just options for logging off and switching users, etc. Why is this?
[04:57] <UdontKnow> Thehound666: google around
[04:57] <shoumik> hi, online everything is confusing. Can someone give me an easy app i can use to add and remove songs from 1g ipod nano
[04:57] <elkbuntu> yharrow, without the e.. sorry /msg nickserv help
[04:57] <Thehound666> I did
[04:57] <Thehound666> found unanswered forum posts
[04:57] <yharrow> ok
[04:57] <Thehound666> for my card
[04:58] <Thehound666> that doesn't give me much hope
[04:58] <puff> In aptitude, how do I list what pckages depend on a given package?
[04:58] <musya> anybody know  of a program to read rar files?
[04:58] <puff> In aptitude, how do I list what pckages depend on a given package?
[04:58] <cnmsale2> unop:  i see the problem i think, it is saying dhcpdiscover on wlan0 but im  not using dhcp
[04:59] <cables> puff, hold on.
[04:59] <jumpkick> er...  anyone interested in helping me finish an Ubuntu Chroot install script for Zimbra?   It's pretty well done, but I need some ssh expertise to help me get the key-exchange-login thing working for the admin console....
[04:59] <puff> musya: I'm sure they exist, I remember coming across that format last year.
[04:59] <ub2> rave did that fix finding windows?
[04:59] <rumbleca> does the  Ubuntu edgy cdromupgrade script actually work?I think it's still using the network
[04:59] <unop> cnmsale2,  did you mention assigning the interface an address??
[04:59] <cables> puff, "aptitude show <packagename> | grep Depends"
[04:59] <cnmsale2> unop:  yes i have set static info up
[04:59] <cnmsale2> let me double check just to be certain
[05:00] <oritemis> I am trying to understand what this meand, someone have a idea? checking for KIBA_DOCK... configure: error: Package requirements ("glib-2.0 >= 2.8.0 gobject-2.0 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.8.0 cairo >= 1.0.0 pango >= 1.10.0 pangocairo >= 1.10.0 gconf-2.0 >= 2.0.0 libgtop-2.0 >= 2.0.0 libglade-2.0 >= 2.5.1") were not met:
[05:00] <puff> cables: Thanks.
[05:00] <musya> so any names?
[05:00] <cnmsale2> i also see an Iactivation wlan0 failed and static is entered corrctly
[05:00] <puff> musya: sudo aptitude install rar unrar
[05:01] <cnmsale2> unop:  also seeing a setting AP mac address failed
[05:01] <cnmsale2> i do have mac filtering for wireless turned on in the router
[05:01] <cnmsale2> but the MAC is the same as it was on windows
[05:01] <factboy818181> i'm trying to record sound on my computer, but the mix channel has no sound - i've enabled mix in GNOME alsa mixer, any ideas?
[05:01] <puff> cables: Okay, how do I figure out which package installed a given file?
[05:02] <unop> cnmsale2,  you havent made changes to MAC addresses, have you?
[05:02] <jumpkick> http://stacktrace.org/index_html/20070212-Zimbra-on-Ubuntu64 -- Zimbra (http://www.zimbra.com/) chroot install (works for i386 or AMD64)...  need help applying SSH key instructions @http://wiki.zimbra.com/index.php?title=Mail_Queue_Monitoring#Common_Errors to the script in a chroot environment (where SSH lives outside the chroot)
[05:02] <cnmsale2> nope
[05:02] <trinkolade> Trixsey, mhm...okay, I don't have the clue...why doesn't synaptic work?
[05:02] <cnmsale2> not unless ndis does automatically
[05:02] <Markatrop> I have GNU/Linux installed on a Macbook here. One button touchpad, fucking stupid. How does one go about enabling mouse button emulation?
[05:02] <CapaH> Question -- What is a GOOD VPN client to use for Ubuntu that has a GUI ?
[05:02] <arrenlex> How might I launch xterm so it doesn't terminate after a command exits?
[05:02] <cnmsale2> but i doubt that
[05:02] <arrenlex> !language | Markatrop
[05:02] <ubotu> Markatrop: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:03] <CapaH> kvpnc isn't working for some reason -- I try importing a valid p12 cert and it refuses to accept it
[05:03] <dyrne> CapaH: just use vpnc. its pretty easy
[05:03] <CapaH> .... vpnc instead of kvpnc...
[05:03] <CapaH> is that the problem?
[05:04] <dyrne> CapaH: id typed that before you mentioned the cient. yeah id say its just a front end
[05:04] <Xenguy> CapaH: openvnc may be worth a look (dunno if GUI tho)
[05:04] <CapaH> so I need vpnc and not kvpnc -- is K for KDE and vpnc = Gnome ? (I am using Gnome)
[05:04] <dyrne> arrenlex: nohup xterm&
[05:04] <unop> cnmsale2,  hmm .. hold on
[05:05] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys what do I type in the RTCW Enemy Territory console to get out of fullscreen
[05:05] <arrenlex> dyrne: ?? em@sam:~$ nohup xterm -e echo hi
[05:05] <arrenlex> nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'
[05:05] <Xenguy> CapaH: er, openvpn
[05:05] <arrenlex> dyrne: And it still exits.
[05:05] <cnmsale2> unop:  k
[05:05] <rpc> how secure is it to use such a source of debianised 2.6.20? http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/
[05:05] <cnmsale2> unop: gunna turn DHCP on in the router real quick see if that makes a diff
[05:05] <gfah> could I request a quickie help here?
[05:05] <Xenguy> !ask
[05:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:06] <sethk> gfah, ask the question, then if someone knows, they'll answer
[05:06] <gfah> OK...I am here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[05:06] <dyrne> arrenlex: didnt realize youre using -e. im curious about how to do that too
[05:06] <gfah> trying to get the latest ATI driver
[05:06] <dan__> hi guys, im having a big problem compiling mesa libs from cvs
[05:07] <Thehound666> the ati driver is jinxed. any way to use the Vesa driver and be able to adjust display settings?
[05:07] <dan__> everything goes through and compiles correctly, but when i make install and override the regular drivers everything gets messed up
[05:07] <Thehound666> I'll even take that
[05:07] <arrenlex> Thehound666: What problems are you having?
[05:07] <gfah> I've DL'ed it to desktop but, don't know how to Change to the download directory in terminal
[05:07] <Thehound666> the fglrx the loading bar gets full
[05:07] <Xenguy> Thehound666: vesa comes with low resolution AFAIK
[05:07] <cnmsale2> unop: ok that did it
[05:07] <arrenlex> gfah: cd ~/Desktop
[05:07] <Thehound666> then xserver seems to not start
[05:08] <cnmsale2> that sucks though, i really need a staic address in ubuntu do to some server apps i run
[05:08] <sethk> Thehound666, I can adjust display settings with ati.  Some ati boards work better than others w.r.t. linux drivers
[05:08] <arrenlex> gfah: The cd command changes directory. ~ means /home. Desktop is the name of the folder where your desktop is.
[05:08] <dan__> mostly there seems to be a lot of random texture errors and i get a ton of DISPATCH ERROR! messages
[05:08] <sethk> Thehound666, put your X log file on the paste web site
[05:08] <unop> cnmsale2,  it working tho now?
[05:08] <sethk> cnmsale2, there is no problem using a static ip with ubuntu.
[05:08] <Gon> how do i install wc3 in ubuntu?
[05:08] <cnmsale2> unop:  yeah
[05:08] <Thehound666> I am in vmware atm, it's the only way my display works at all
[05:08] <Gon> !warcraft3
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warcraft3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <cnmsale2> sethk: it isnt working properly for me
[05:08] <unop> cnmsale2,  you can configure your DHCP server to assign a lease to your forever (or something close) and that should make it semi-static
[05:08] <cnmsale2> DHCP works fine
[05:09] <quaal> SilenceGold, where do i access the electric sheep program?
[05:09] <cnmsale2> unop: yeah but that doesnt help should the machine have to be rebooted
[05:09] <Mixx> where is the list of remembered applications from the previous session stored?  (not manually set apps in .kde/Autostart)
[05:09] <quaal> its not in the screensaver list with the rest?
[05:09] <gfah> I did that but, get repeated "No such file or directory" error
[05:09] <sethk> cnmsale2, I have four machines with static ips here.  what command are you using to set the static IP?
[05:09] <quaal> er
[05:09] <Thehound666> but how would I get the log if it kills my system every time I install these drivers
[05:09] <quaal> SiliconViper i menat
[05:09] <cnmsale2> sethk: i set it in the networking gui
[05:09] <quaal> meant
[05:09] <Thehound666> only way back is removing xorg.conf
[05:09] <Thehound666> then restore
[05:09] <unop> cnmsale2,  errm, as long as you dont have a very populated network, the router should try and reserve that IP address for you
[05:10] <unop> cnmsale2,  how many machines on the network?
[05:10] <dan__> this is the output of my glxinfo: http://pastebin.com/883414
[05:10] <cnmsale2> unop: i have 3 on the network this is the only one who will be DHCP
[05:10] <sethk> cnmsale2, that should work.  try it from the command line.  the command is like this:  for (say, eth0):   ifconfig eth0 111.111.111.111 netmask 255.255.255.0
[05:11] <cnmsale2> I would still feel better with static though
[05:11] <sethk> cnmsale2, as root, or with sudo, of course
[05:11] <sethk> cnmsale2, it's far more common to have static work and dhcp not work, than the other way around.
[05:11] <cnmsale2> sethk: let me ask you, in nix do I need to specify my DNS#
[05:11] <cnmsale2> ?
[05:11] <sethk> cnmsale2, yes
[05:11] <dyrne> arrenlex: xterm -e "echo test&& read" but after you enter input itd still close
[05:11] <cnmsale2> ok just checking
[05:11] <sethk> cnmsale2, you can add it to file /etc/resolv.conf
[05:12] <sethk> cnmsale2, a line like:             nameserver ###.###.###.###
[05:12] <bleanna_unux> Question. I'm getting a new HDD for my server and my current HDD has files that I want to transfer to the new drive. How can I remove GRUB from my current drive so that the old drive will not boot but can be mounted by the new OS on the new drive?
[05:12] <arrenlex> dan__: What are you trying to do?
[05:12] <arrenlex> dyrne: xD That's a total hack.
[05:12] <dan__> arrenlex: im trying to compile latest mesa drivers out of cvs
[05:12] <sethk> cnmsale2, even without dns, though, you should be able to ping your gateway (by ip, not by name) after doing the ifconfig
[05:12] <cnmsale2> so to set it i would do ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0
[05:12] <cnmsale2> what is lline for GW?
[05:13] <arrenlex> dan__: why?
[05:13] <trinkolade> bleanna_unux, it shouldn't be necessary, just change the first boot device in your bios settings
[05:13] <sethk> cnmsale2, route add default gw ###.###.###.###
[05:13] <dan__> arrenlex: need some modifications to let beryl support my multi monitor setup
[05:13] <cnmsale2> and to set the dns#
[05:14] <arrenlex> dan__: It looks to me like a problem with libGL.so. Could it be?
[05:14] <sandy16> hey can any body help me out in downloading a file with wget ... where some session key generated rather than direct link
[05:14] <lisapc> i bought a new notebook. but the battery goes down by about 2% each day.  Why isnt it recharging to 100%?
[05:14] <dan__> arrenlex: most likely, since that's one of the .so files i updated when i rebuilt the drivers
[05:14] <sethk> cnmsale2, for each name server, add a line in /etc/resolv.conf of the form::          nameserver ###.###.###.###
[05:14] <bleanna_unux> trinkolade: are you sure b/c i have over 20 GB of data, which I need
[05:15] <gfah> Why do I get "Can't open ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run" error when trying to install this ATI driver?
[05:15] <Xenguy> lisapc: sounds flaky to me - is it under warantee?
[05:15] <cnmsale2> sethk: i should only have one name server though right
[05:15] <cnmsale2> 192.168.1.1
[05:15] <arrenlex> gfah: Are you on a 64-bit system?
[05:15] <gfah> no
[05:15] <sethk> cnmsale2, one, two, three are all common
[05:15] <ub2> rave  /silent  did that fix you windows missing problem?
[05:15] <arrenlex> gfah: Well then stop trying to run 64-bit binaries.
[05:15] <sethk> cnmsale2, one is fine, as long as the one never goes down
[05:16] <cnmsale2> ahhh well, its the only router i have
[05:16] <cnmsale2> it is a home network after all
[05:16] <puff> Is there a tutorial that explains the "dpkg -l" output format?
[05:16] <gfah> arrenlex, I did this one time awhile ago with same setup...odd
[05:16] <stuart> can someone help me with blocking/unblocking in firestarter?
[05:16] <Xenguy> puff: man dpkg
[05:16] <gfah> same file too
[05:16] <trinkolade> bleanna_unux, I don't know what you want to do, but the data won't be deleted if you change the boot device ;)
[05:16] <arrenlex> gfah: You have the wrong file. Look at the end: .x86_64.run
[05:16] <sethk> cnmsale2, you can use a public name server out on the net.  it won't know your local names, of course, but other than that it will work fine.
[05:16] <arrenlex> gfah: Download the 32-bit one.
[05:17] <sethk> cnmsale2, but one dns is fine, as I said, as long as that one is up and properly configured.
[05:17] <gfah> ok...let me check...thanks
[05:17] <puff> Xenguy: already looked there, can't find anything about the listing format.
[05:17] <Xenguy> puff: I usually prepend 'COLUMNS=200' to 'dpkg -l' commands as it improves the output
[05:17] <gfah> this is one ati has for 32bit
[05:17] <Xenguy> puff: FWIW
[05:17] <bleanna_unux> trinkolade: yeah i know :) but im concerned that maybe the boot partitions might conflict
[05:17] <Gon> do you guys know how to run wc3 with wine?
[05:18] <trinkolade> bleanna_unux, what do you want to do?
[05:18] <EnsilZah> Can someone please help me?   I've just installed edgy and the screen looks like this when i get to the logon screen: http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenbi2.jpg
[05:18] <trinkolade> Gon, wine wc3.exe?
[05:18] <Gon> yea
[05:18] <Gon> something like that
[05:18] <Gon> lol
[05:18] <Gon> like a tutorial of some sort
[05:18] <trinkolade> Gon, take a look at linuxgamers.net
[05:18] <gfah> arrenlex...go to ATI site and see...it's right one
[05:18] <arrenlex> gfah: You're right. I just did.
[05:18] <stuart> !firestarter help someone?
[05:18] <Gon> thanks
[05:18] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[05:19] <Xenguy> EnsilZah: looks like an X problem - wrong driver or other misconfiguration
[05:19] <gfah> what's going on?
[05:19] <arrenlex> gfah: How odd. What's the exact error?
[05:19] <trinkolade> Gon, ah, wront page, mom
[05:19] <puff> Xenguy: Specifically I'm trying to figure out what "rc" in the first column means.
[05:19] <Falconix> hey I have a small question. Am I the only one who feels a small delay on mousclick in Gnome?
[05:19] <sethk> EnsilZah, looks like you've set the resolution to something the monitor can't handle
[05:19] <gfah> root@gfahey-desktop:/home/gfahey# sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:19] <gfah> Reading package lists... Done
[05:19] <gfah> Building dependency tree
[05:19] <gfah> Reading state information... Done
[05:19] <gfah> module-assistant is already the newest version.
[05:19] <trinkolade> Gon, http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[05:19] <gfah> build-essential is already the newest version.
[05:19] <gfah> fakeroot is already the newest version.
[05:19] <arrenlex> puff: remaining config
[05:19] <sethk> try a lower resolution
[05:19] <gfah> dh-make is already the newest version.
[05:19] <gfah> debhelper is already the newest version.
[05:19] <bleanna_unux> trinkolade: i want to put ubuntu/debian on the new drive and boot from the new drive. after, i wish to transfer all the data from a dir on the old drive onto the new drive.
[05:19] <gfah> debconf is already the newest version.
[05:19] <gfah> libstdc++5 is already the newest version.
[05:19] <gfah> linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic is already the newest version.
[05:19] <arrenlex> puff: You've removed the package itself, but not the configuration files.
[05:19] <gfah> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[05:19] <puff> Xenguy: Though COLUMNS=200 could come in handy, too.
[05:19] <gfah> root@gfahey-desktop:/home/gfahey# sh ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy
[05:19] <gfah> sh: Can't open ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run
[05:19] <gfah> root@gfahey-desktop:/home/gfahey#
[05:19] <puff> arrenlex: Thanks.
[05:20] <EnsilZah> sethk: I didn't even get to choose a resolution.
[05:20] <tendo> hi, i have an rt73 wireless card. what tools do i need to make it work?
[05:20] <dan__> aha i fixed my problem guys
[05:20] <tendo> or any links to howto's would be useful
[05:20] <Gon> trinkolade
[05:20] <Gon> theres nothing on that site
[05:20] <arrenlex> gfah: And what does "file ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run" say?
[05:20] <fimp> is anybody running ubuntu on PPC?
[05:20] <Gon> oh
[05:20] <Gon> nvm
[05:20] <Gon> lol
[05:20] <Gon> i put in linuxgamers.net
[05:20] <posingaspopular> fimp: yea whatsup
[05:20] <sethk> EnsilZah, then it is using a default.  are you installing?
[05:20] <trinkolade> Gon, http://www.linux-gamers.net/ ;)
[05:20] <dan__> before i had simply overrode the libGL.so symlink, but i guess i needed to override the libGL.so.1 symlink as well
[05:21] <fimp> posingaspopular: have you succesfully installed Beryl? I cant get their repository working
[05:21] <gfah> ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64
[05:21] <stuart> question about firestarter: why does a port i blocked not show up in the list of blocked connections (therefore I can't unblock it)
[05:21] <cnmsale2> unop: sethk , thank you both for your help
[05:21] <stuart> ?
[05:21] <posingaspopular> fimp: no i dont use beryl, sorry
[05:21] <fimp> posingaspopular: but it works fine on my pc
[05:21] <EnsilZah> sethk: I just installed it, didn't do anything other than that.
[05:21] <unop> cnmsale2,  yw, so what did you settle for in the end?
[05:21] <sethk> cnmsale2, not sure if I helped much, but n.p.
[05:21] <arrenlex> gfah: What?
[05:21] <fimp> posingaspopular: ok np
[05:21] <gfah> sorry, I don't no what you mean by "say"
[05:21] <Ice_Wewe> how can I get my Edgy-now Feisty to totally reconfigure/rescan the network interfaces?
[05:21] <cnmsale2> unop: its dhcp right now but I will figure out a way to get static working
[05:21] <arrenlex> gfah: It's a command. "file ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run".
[05:22] <cnmsale2> just glad to have it noetworked again
[05:22] <gfah> ok wait
[05:22] <sethk> EnsilZah, ordinarily you'll have an opportunity to set the resolution during install.  You can either boot it for the ubuntu equiv of safe mode, or you can boot from the cd, then set your resolution.  then you should be ok.
[05:22] <unop> cnmsale2,  ok, here's a good resource for when you decide to experiment further - http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking
[05:22] <gfah> ERROR: cannot open `ati-driver-installer-8.33.6-x86.x86_64.run' (No such file or directory)
[05:23] <gfah> yet, it's on desktop
[05:23] <trinkolade> bleanna_unux, it should work, but you might need to adjust some settings.
[05:23] <trinkolade> bleanna_unux, grub, fstab for example
[05:23] <tendo> hi, i have an rt73 wireless card. what tools do i need to make it work?
[05:23] <oritemis> I am getting this error while making, someone get an idea? :launcher.c: In function 'kiba_launcher_load_new_icon':
[05:23] <oritemis> launcher.c:1004: error: 'KibaObject' has no member named 'bg_svg_handle'
[05:23] <EnsilZah> sethk: I installed it from the alternate cd, the live cd looks like this when i boot from it aswell.
[05:23] <cnmsale2> well piss, i restarted and now the wlan is gone
[05:23] <cnmsale2> sigh
[05:23] <arrenlex> gfah: Are you using tab completion for that filename?
[05:24] <gfah> no
[05:24] <arrenlex> gfah: why?
[05:24] <bulmer> cnmsale2: lesson learned dont piss! lol
[05:24] <arrenlex> gfah: Also, what does the command "pwd" say?
[05:24] <Ice_Wewe> Ubuntu won't see my WLAN card, how do I get it to revert to the default install settings, since it's using the (wrong) settings from the Edgy install that it upgraded from
[05:24] <sethk> EnsilZah, ok.  you can use the alternate cd to boot your system.  It is a combination rescue/installation cd
[05:24] <stuart> question about firestarter: why does a port i blocked not show up in the list of blocked connections (therefore I can't unblock it)?????????
[05:24] <bleanna_unux> trinkolade: are u saying i have to mod. mount points? what about grub?
[05:24] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: whats the name of your wifi card?
[05:25] <sethk> EnsilZah, here is another thing to try
[05:25] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: it's a Broadcom card, Airforce One
[05:25] <gfah> nothing
[05:25] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: BCM4318
[05:25] <sethk> EnsilZah, you can step through the resolutions that are configured (or defaulted) using control-alt-plus.  That's the plus sign on the number pad
[05:25] <cnmsale2> sethk: do you use ndis?
[05:25] <sethk> EnsilZah, if more than one resolution is defined, by using control-alt-plus, you'll go to one that works, most likely.   IN any event, it's quick and easy to try,
[05:26] <sethk> cnmsale2, no, thus far I'm using specific wireless drivers.
[05:26] <trinkolade> bleanna_unux, grub has to know the new root-device and where the kernel lies on
[05:26] <EnsilZah> sethk: Alright, i'll try that, thanks.
[05:26] <tendo> hi, i have an rt73 wireless card. what tools do i need to make it work?
[05:26] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: the Feisty Herd 4 live CD can see the interface, but doesn't like my WEP password. But, the GUI installer is broken, so I downloaded the alternate install CD, and followed the upgrade process. Unfortunately, Edgy never saw that as an interface, and Feisty took over Edgy's preferences, so I'm wondering what the fastest way I can revert ALL settings is
[05:26] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: look what do you have under /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/bcm*
[05:26] <cnmsale2> sethk:  any idea why wlan0 is gone after reboot?
[05:27] <trinkolade> bleanna_unux, the fstab must also be adjusted to the new hdd
[05:27] <EnsilZah> sethk: Hmm, where's the x configuration file located again?
[05:27] <sethk> EnsilZah, /etc/X11
[05:27] <sethk> cnmsale2, not really, not without more data.  The place to start looking is the log files in /var/log
[05:27] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: 2.6.17-10-powerpc, 2.6.20-8-powerpc, and a bunch of bcm43xx firmware files
[05:27] <EnsilZah> sethk: That's strange, i checked /etc and it didn't seem to contain X11.
[05:27] <Ice_Wewe> EnsilZah: /etc/X11/
[05:28] <bleanna_unux> trinkolade: how do i tell grub that?
[05:28] <sethk> EnsilZah, I just checked my box, and /etc/X11 is correct
[05:28] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: lsmod| grep bcm  whats the result?
[05:28] <sethk> EnsilZah, if you can't find it, you might try using locate on a file that is normally in /etc/X11
[05:28] <trinkolade> bleanna_unux, there is a file, usually in /boot/grub/, that's called menu.lst or grub.conf
[05:28] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: nothing for BCM, because that's what the program to extract the firmware is called, but I do have a Broadcom card, BCM4318 chipset
[05:29] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: AirForce One 54g
[05:29] <arrenlex> !who | gfah
[05:29] <ubotu> gfah: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:29] <arrenlex> gfah: Do you mean "pwd" says nothing?
[05:29] <lisapc> i bought a new notebook. but the battery goes down by about 2% each day.  Why isnt it recharging to 100%?
[05:29] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: am confused, what is your answer on that lsmod ?
[05:29] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: I have a Broadcom BCM4318 wireless card
[05:29] <lisapc> Xenguy yes! its only 2 days old
[05:29] <Gon> has anyone installed wc3 on ubunt?
[05:30] <cables> Ice_Wewe, if it doesn't have anything for BCM, you don't have the chipset. Maybe another version of the card you have uses a different chipset.
[05:30] <gfah> arrenlex, I type it in terminal and get nothing really
[05:30] <Ice_Wewe> cables: I has BCM
[05:30] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: once more, give me the result of lsmod|grep bcm
[05:30] <Xenguy> lisapc: take it back right away and report the problem - that's what I would do
[05:30] <bleanna_unux> trinkolade: ahh, got it thanks
[05:30] <trinkolade> bleanna_unux, np
[05:30] <arrenlex> gfah: ...close that terminal. Open a new one. Type "cd ~/Desktop". Then type pwd again.
[05:31] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: one sec, nuts to typing this manually
[05:31] <tendo> hi, i have an rt73 wireless card. what tools do i need to make it work? i've tried messing with iwconfig. no graphics btw
[05:31] <cables> Ice_Wewe, you can paste into the terminal with ctrl-shift-v, unless you don't have a gui up...
[05:31] <lisapc> Xenguy so battery should go to 100%?
[05:31] <bulmer> tendo: am assisting Ice_Wewe ..should be same steps
[05:31] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: 0001:10:11.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[05:31] <Xenguy> lisapc: AFAIK yes
[05:31] <lisapc> Xenguy im running vista till i insTALL ubuntu
[05:32] <gfah> arrenlex, I get this: /home/gfahey/Desktop
[05:32] <gfah> gfahey@gfahey-desktop:~/Desktop$
[05:32] <arrenlex> gfah: Good.
[05:32] <arrenlex> gfah: Now run that ati file again.
[05:32] <arrenlex> gfah: And use tab completion.
[05:32] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: am expecting like bmc_ ????   as the answer for drivers loaded.
[05:32] <Ice_Wewe> cables: I know that, but the problem is on another computer, which means if I didn't install SSH, I'd have to type in the results manually
[05:32] <ub2> lisapc  xenguy gives you wimp advise as perhaps you have no problem except you want it to read 100% perhaps it still runs the same?
[05:32] <Xenguy> lisapc: you should boycott vista (DRM issues)
[05:32] <cables> Ice_Wewe, ok
[05:32] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: oh, sorry, half asleep
[05:32] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: nada
[05:33] <Xenguy> ub2: there is no reason to be rude
[05:33] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: then your driver is not loaded for bcm*
[05:33] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: well how do I load it?
[05:33] <gfah> arrenlex....you da man..it's working
[05:33] <gfah> what did I do wrong?
[05:33] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: what is in /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/bcm*/default
[05:34] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: nothing
[05:34] <oritemis> I am getting this error while making, someone get an idea? :launcher.c: In function 'kiba_launcher_load_new_icon':
[05:34] <oritemis> launcher.c:1004: error: 'KibaObject' has no member named 'bg_svg_handle'
[05:34] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: because there is *no* folder bcm
[05:34] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: there are just a bunch of bcm_43xx.fw files
[05:34] <arrenlex> gfah: Your terminal was in a directory that didn't exist --presumably you cd'd to it and then deleted it -- so it got confused.
[05:35] <gfah> I see...thanks for your time...I appreciate it
[05:35] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: whats in your /etc/modprobe.d/options  file anything resembles bcm ?
[05:35] <arrenlex> gfah: No problem; it's what I'm here for. :)
[05:36] <tendo> hi, i have an rt73 wireless card. what tools do i need to make it work? i've tried messing with iwconfig, it shows rausb1 as an interface, but sudo ifup rausb1 says unknown interface. no graphics btw
[05:36] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: there should be one directory under /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/   what is the name?
[05:36] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: no on the options
[05:36] <MAA> ubuntu does not see my raid array, if i install it on the single harddrive like it shows, would i loose anything from my raid array
[05:36] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: -bash: /lib/firmware/2.6.20-8-powerpc/: is a directory
[05:37] <whileimhere> I have a USB joystick how do you tell what device its on?
[05:37] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: there should be one directory under /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/   what is the name?
[05:37] <unop> arrenlex,  dyrne  xterm -e "exec nohup xterm & perl -e 'select(undef, undef, undef, 0.09)'"
[05:37] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: I already told you, 2.6.20-8-powerpc
[05:38] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: no other directory below that?
[05:38] <arrenlex> unop: And where does the command go? xP
[05:38] <dyrne> whileimhere: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices  maybe
[05:38] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: acx and zd1211 are the ONLY sub directories
[05:38] <arrenlex> unop: I was kinda looking for like xterm --magicalswitch
[05:38] <unop> herr arrenlex, atzer command liner :p
[05:38] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: you are not paying attention to my question..i cant waste my time like that
[05:39] <unop> arrenlex,  errm, you code in C? :p
[05:39] <arrenlex> unop: No.
[05:39] <whileimhere> is there a terminal command to see devices?
[05:39] <bulmer> whileimhere: lshw
[05:39] <mothersuperior> anyone
[05:40] <arrenlex> whileimhere: lspci
[05:40] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: there are two directories below /lib/firmware/2.6.20-8-powerpc/, acx, and zd1211
[05:40] <dyrne> whileimhere: lsusb will also give some output
[05:40] <mothersuperior> know where I can get void11?
[05:40] <whileimhere> ty
[05:40] <unop> arrenlex,  well, c'est la vie -- somethings need hacking around
[05:40] <arrenlex> unop: It seems to me that this is one option xterm should provide.
[05:40] <mothersuperior> Trying to  2 install void 11 please pm if you know where I can get it
[05:41] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: now do a dmesg|grep wlan   see if your bmc* is detected
[05:41] <unop> arrenlex,  why are you wanting -e and a window afterwards?
[05:41] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: no
[05:41] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: no results of your wifi card detected from dmesg ?
[05:41] <MAA> nice
[05:41] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: no
[05:41] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: I have no wifi card detected!
[05:42] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: the system doesn't see a WLAN0, or an eth1
[05:42] <macd> mothersuperior, http://www.wirelessdefence.org/Contents/Void11Installation.htm   <--- instructions.
[05:42] <tendo> hi, i have an rt73 wireless card. what tools do i need to make it work? i've tried messing with iwconfig, it shows rausb1 as an interface, but sudo ifup rausb1 says unknown interface. no graphics btw
[05:42] <mothersuperior> Macd thank you
[05:42] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: then you need to play with your bios so that these card can be detected
[05:42] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: it would just be easier if there were a command to completely reconfigure the entire OS to be like what it would've been after a fresh install
[05:42] <arrenlex> unop: Writing a shell script which forks a command into several instances based on args given and runs two concurrently. I oggenc to actually use both my cores.
[05:42] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: Mac's don't *have* a BIOS
[05:42] <arrenlex> unop: I want *
[05:43] <unop> arrenlex,  whats wrong with conventional fork and exec?
[05:43] <puff> Hm, flash sound appears to have disappeared.
[05:43] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: there must be something in the mobo that detects your hardware or to activate additional ones?
[05:43] <arrenlex> unop: Manual :)
[05:43] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: I'm on a PowerBook G4. It has NO BIOS, it Has Open Firmware. The wireless card would bite Ubuntu in the face if it could
[05:43] <macd> Ice_Wewe, Im sure youve said already but it shows in lspci?
[05:43] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: this card is NOT new, it's been on the computer since I got it, Ubuntu is just too stupid to detect it properly
[05:43] <unop> arrenlex,  eh? manual? can't this be scripted?
[05:44] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: i bit more that i can chew..im not familiar with Mac's  :)
[05:44] <sethk> Ice_Wewe, open firmware is a flavor of BIOS.  BIOS Is just a generic term for firmware
[05:44] <arrenlex> unop: As in, has to be invoked manually. I'm lazy; want it to split the arg list automatically.
[05:44] <Ice_Wewe> macd: the card does show up in lspci
[05:44] <arrenlex> unop: Yes it can. And that's what I'm doing. o_O
[05:44] <arrenlex> (21:42:42) arrenlex: unop: Writing a shell script which...
[05:44] <macd> Ice_Wewe, bcm43xx ?
[05:44] <puff> And rhythmbox still can't seemt o play an mp3, though nautilus can.  Hm.
[05:44] <Ice_Wewe> sethk: yes, they may be the same as in they perform the same basic operation after the initial startup, but they couldn't be more different in the way they handle devices and commands
[05:44] <trinkolade> puff, what version?
[05:45] <Ice_Wewe> macd: yes, that is the chipset Broadcom uses in their MAC wireless cards
[05:45] <puff> trinkolade: Of rhythmbox?
[05:45] <trinkolade> puff, yes
[05:45] <macd> Ice_Wewe, have you installed the bcm43xx firmware?
[05:45] <puff> trinkolade: 0.9.3.1
[05:45] <unop> arrenlex,  what do the arguments look like?
[05:45] <bulmer> Ice_Wewe: what shows up if you do an ls -la /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf
[05:46] <Ice_Wewe> can someone just tell me the magic command that resets my system to the absolute dumbest out-of-the-box settings so that it will redetect all my hardware? I'm not talking about a reinstall, and I'm not talking about rm -rf *
[05:46] <arrenlex> unop: oggenc *.mp3
[05:46] <arrenlex> unop: er, *.wav
[05:46] <Ice_Wewe> bulmer: all, default, eth0, and lo
[05:46] <puff> Hm, I wonder if something weird happened, like a system "beep" causing the OS to grab the sound lock before also could get it.,.
[05:46] <Ice_Wewe> macd: yes, MANY times
[05:46] <trinkolade> puff, the newest version is 0.9.6, upgrade to this version
[05:46] <macd> Ice_Wewe,  dpkg-reconfigure all
[05:46] <sethk> Ice_Wewe, I know.  my point is that most people wouldn't know what you really mean when you say it has no BIOS, because they aren't using the term in an architectural centric way.
[05:46] <Ice_Wewe> macd: doesn't work
[05:47] <unop> arrenlex, so, one instance for each of *.wav?
[05:47] <puff> trinkolade: Says I'm on the most up to date version.  Then again, I'm in dapper.
[05:47] <Muzik83> does anyone in here now how to make an i386 version of a dpkg into a x86_64 version?  I have some drivers for my canon printer (iP2200) that they only give i386 rpms.  I alien-ed them on another system into dpkg stuff...but now dpkg wont let me install, says wrong architecture
[05:47] <Ice_Wewe> sethk: ok, it has the Plutonian equiv to a BIOS, but they still won't understand when I tell them that there is NO WAY I can make it more clear to linux that there is a wireless card sitting on the board
[05:47] <macd> Ice_Wewe, yeah err dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-base then ubuntu-desktop
[05:47] <arrenlex> unop: No, no. That would be inefficient. It splits it into four by default and runs two concurrently.
[05:48] <puff> trinkolade: and I'm also in need of a dist-upgrade.
[05:48] <trinkolade> puff, no, the system beep isn't the same as the sound stuff
[05:48] <arrenlex> unop: Or rather, it splits it so each core gets two parts. Which works out to four parts on a dual core system.
[05:48] <puff> trinkolade: Oh, good.  Thanks.
[05:48] <CaptainMorgan> I need to close out my firefox process, firefox isn't appearing anywhere visually... I did ps -aux to find the process id to kill it but it wasn't listed.. any ideas?
[05:48] <macd> Ice_Wewe, your problem is not the card not being detected, your problem is lack of driver.
[05:48] <arrenlex> unop: Of course I can use command lines to change the split.
[05:48] <puff> /me's finger hesitates over the "y' button at the aptitude dist-upgrade prompt.
[05:48] <arrenlex> unop: Look, here's output to make it clear:
[05:48] <crparr> Hi! How can I remove single mythtv modules without removing all of them?
[05:49] <macd> Ice_Wewe,  reconfiguring your system wont solve anything FYI.
[05:49] <bulmer> CaptainMorgan: if it does not show on ps -aux  then its not running
[05:49] <bulmer> unless you have a hacked ps :)
[05:49] <crparr> or is there a way to deactivate plugins?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> crparr,  what module you refering to?
[05:49] <sethk> Ice_Wewe, linux pretty much ignores what the firmware tells it anyway.
[05:49] <crparr> I
[05:49] <CaptainMorgan> bulmer, when i try to start firefox it tells me I have it already running
[05:49] <quaal> how do i remove gnome-screensaver
[05:49] <crparr> I'd like to remove  mythgame, mythflix mythnews
[05:49] <puff> does a dist-upgrade usually require a reboot?
[05:49] <trinkolade> puff, since mp3 is a closed format, it isn't enabled by default. Have you added other repositories to your repos-list?
[05:49] <macd> Ice_Wewe, btw did you have a look @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[05:49] <crparr> bit mythmusic, mythgallery etc should remain active
[05:49] <sethk> Ice_Wewe, I spent most of the day today getting an ethernet interface up on a new oem computer board with (literally) no firmware, so it can be done  :)
[05:49] <bulmer> CaptainMorgan: hang on..let me check if it uses any kind of lock file
[05:50] <Madpilot> puff, right at the end, yes - new kernels
[05:50] <tendo> anyone know how to get usb wifi goin?
[05:50] <puff> trinkolade: Yeah, I had it all working.
[05:50] <Ice_Wewe> macd: no, Feisty live CD CLEARLY detects the wireless card. However, when I upgraded Edgy to Feisty, Feisty was retarded and used the Edgy conf files, and Edgy DIDN'T see the card
[05:50] <trinkolade> puff, yes, because the kernel has to be reinitialihdfha
[05:50] <macd> puff, it depends if there was a kernel upgrade or not.
[05:50] <puff> Madpilot: danke.
[05:50] <CaptainMorgan> bulmer, nevermind - thank you - I found it listed from ps -aux.. couldn't see it the first time- too much junk
[05:50] <macd> Ice_Wewe, feisty and edgy are different so you should expect different results.
[05:50] <arrenlex> unop: http://pastebin.ca/361491
[05:50] <puff> trinkolade: Besdies the upper-right-corner menu bar, what other things control sound?
[05:51] <puff> System/preferences/sound.
[05:51] <trinkolade> puff, alsamixer in the console?
[05:51] <puff> Where do I find alsamixer?
[05:51] <arrenlex> unop: It forks line 4 and executes line 5 inline, then when it quits it forks 6 and executes 7 inline.
[05:51] <Ice_Wewe> macd: yes, I've already seen that, and followed it
[05:51] <Ice_Wewe> macd: Ubuntu is still retarded and doesn't see my interface
[05:51] <trinkolade> puff, type in alsamixer in your terminal
[05:51] <macd> Ice_Wewe, its not ubuntu, its Kernel/HAL
[05:51] <trinkolade> puff, don't you have sound or does your mp3-support not work?
[05:51] <Ice_Wewe> macd: you can't use wifi-radar when the device you're trying to activate doesn't exsist
[05:52] <macd> Ice_Wewe, obviously.
[05:52] <williammanda> can anyone tell me how to auto-load a module.....need it for cx88_dvb
[05:52] <andy753421> Hello, i'm having problems getting the "Disk Mounter" to add itself to the panel. I click add, but it doesn't show up, any suggestions?
[05:52] <Ice_Wewe> macd: then the kernel/HAL is retarded, and by vague extension, Ubuntu Edgy is retarded, since Feisty can SEE the card
[05:52] <Muzik83> does anyone in here now how to make an i386 version of a dpkg into a x86_64 version?  I have some drivers for my canon printer (iP2200) that they only give i386 rpms.  I alien-ed them on another system into dpkg stuff...but now dpkg wont let me install, says wrong architecture.  Once in it should work, since I have a bunch of the i386 compatability stuff installed.  Another option would be something like --force-all (but that doe
[05:52] <puff> trinkolade: I can get a system beep.  I can play an mp3 by hovering over it in nautilus. rhythmbox and audio firefox/flash don't seem to work.
[05:52] <Ice_Wewe> Muzik83: dpkg --force-architecture
[05:52] <puff> Specifically, flash plays in firefox, but no sound.
[05:52] <Muzik83> Ice_Wewe: thanks :)
[05:52] <sethk> Ice_Wewe, that just means the kernel has a driver for the hardware in one version, but not the other.  You can always rebuild the kernel in edgy
[05:53] <crparr> Dr_willis: any ideas?
[05:53] <Ice_Wewe> sethk: I'm not running Edgy anymore, I'm running Feisty
[05:53] <macd> sethk, not the right way.
[05:53] <macd> Ice_Wewe, do you have the kernel modules running?
[05:53] <puff> and rhythmbox runs and all, when I click on a song it updates the windowframe title,, but it doesn't actually play it.  There is no sound on the speaker, and the track time display doesn't change.
[05:53] <Ice_Wewe> sethk: I upgraded Edgy to Feisty, and now Feisty doesn't see my card. Even though I KNOW Feisty is capable of seeing my card because the live CD CAN see it
[05:53] <sethk> macd, to me, something that works is not the wrong way, compared to something that doesn't.  That's carrying correctness just a bit too far.
[05:53] <puff> Before asknig for help here, I removed all songs from rhythmbox and reimported my mp3 archive older.
[05:53] <puff> folder.
[05:53] <Ice_Wewe> macd: do you mean if I do lsmod do I see a page of stuff, yes
[05:54] <tendo> sethk: that sucks i hate it when that happens
[05:54] <macd> sethk, possibly, but recompiling a kernel to include a module statically is not always the best practice.
[05:54] <sethk> Ice_Wewe, run the live cd, do lsmod, then do lsmod on the box where it isn't seen.  that will tell you which kernel modules need to be loaded so that the card will be seen
[05:54] <Ice_Wewe> macd: do I see a bcm_43xx module, no
[05:54] <Ice_Wewe> sethk: ok
[05:54] <trinkolade> puff, and what do they say? Rhythmbox should pop up an error, try to start rhythmbox trough terminal
[05:54] <macd> Ice_Wewe, lsmod | grep bcm returns nothing?
[05:54] <Ice_Wewe> macd: no
[05:54] <macd> then you havent loaded the modules
[05:55] <Ice_Wewe> macd: obviously
[05:55] <puff> No error.  I'll try running it via terminal.  Oh, this is "aoss rhythmbox", btw.
[05:55] <sethk> macd,  I don't know what you mean by "including a module statically".  A modules isn't static, by definition.
[05:55] <Ice_Wewe> thanks for the help, I'm going to try this in the morning when I'm not sleep deprived, and I have enough patience to do rm -rf * and REINSTALL
[05:55] <macd> sethk, compiling a driver into the kernel statically, I should have phrased differently
[05:55] <unop> arrenlex,  ok, i get how the script works, the logic, etc  -- but how does xterm fit in there? do you want to run each task in a new window or something?
[05:56] <lisapc> when running xbuntu, does it recharge my notebook batterry by itself?
[05:56] <sethk> macd I wasn't suggesting that, particularly.
[05:56] <patrialt> can someone tell me how to extract a zip file into a directory that my user doesn't have write access to?
[05:56] <trinkolade> puff, type in "rhythmbox"
[05:56] <macd> he quit
[05:56] <sethk> patrialt, with sudo
[05:56] <unop> patrialt,  errr, no
[05:56] <macd> all he had todo was modprobe bcm43xx
[05:56] <arrenlex> unop: I want to keep an eye on the output, without losing the output of the script itself. Do you know a way to put the output of three programs into a single window and still understand anything?
[05:56] <puff> trinkolade: Started it from the terminal, same behavior.  http://pastebin.ca/361494
[05:57] <patrialt> k, im trying to get a voice pack of files from desktop to /usr/games/legends
[05:57] <unop> arrenlex,  err, indeed i do -- curses :p
[05:57] <patrialt> could you help me on the command?
[05:57] <trinkolade> puff, and without aoss?
[05:58] <arrenlex> unop: Well, that's beyond me. xD
[05:58] <puff> trinkolade: Tried it without aoss, same results, same messages:  http://pastebin.ca/361495
[05:58] <emilia> hey guys, i transferred over some files from my ubuntu system to my winxp system, and now i cant delete them
[05:58] <puff> emilia: In winxp?
[05:58] <emilia> my xp says cannot find the specified file
[05:59] <macd> emilia, change the ownership of the files in windows using the administrator account.
[05:59] <emilia> puff: yes
[05:59] <puff> macd: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
[05:59] <bulmer> emilia: if you cant find it, how can you delete it?  :)
[05:59] <macd> how can you see it even ;P
[05:59] <puff> macd: Actually in my case I just solved the problem via cygwin, but similar sort of odd ownership/permisison issue.
[05:59] <emilia> bulmer : haha
[05:59] <unop> arrenlex,  can't zenity help in any way?
[05:59] <emilia> when i rght click the folder and press delete, windows says cannot find file
[05:59] <Muzik83> emilia: try scandisking your drive
[06:00] <arrenlex> unop: Not really. Not for the output of arbitrary commands.
[06:00] <trinkolade> puff, what does "alsamixer" say? Have Volume and PCM been turned on?
[06:00] <arrenlex> unop: Easier to launch xterm windows.
[06:00] <arrenlex> unop: Nevermind, the fact that they leave doesn't really annoy me, now that I look at it.
[06:00] <emilia> my regular xp account is admin equivalent, can i do it from there?
[06:00] <macd> emilia, yes
[06:00] <emilia> i cant find how to do it :(
[06:00] <macd> emilia, right click on the file, properties, security tab.
[06:01] <emilia> macd : i dont have a security tab
[06:01] <unop> arrenlex,  ahh well, you've probably got it sussed your way -- I gotta head off, but i'll leave you with a shorter version before i go - xterm -e "nohup xterm & perl -e'select(0,0,0,0.09)'"
[06:01] <tendo> where is the config for the wireless adapters?
[06:01] <arrenlex> unop: No thank you xD And thanks for the help.
[06:01] <bulmer> tendo look in /etc/networking/interfaces
[06:02] <tendo> there isnt an example though, its blank
[06:02] <bulmer> tendo: you can use google to get a sample..
[06:03] <tendo> thanks
[06:03] <cryosphere> hello
[06:03] <arrenlex> !hi | cryosphere
[06:03] <ubotu> cryosphere: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:03] <macd> emilia, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421
[06:03] <adorablepuppy> Hello
[06:04] <cryosphere> i have a bizzare problem: my computer on which I recently installed xubuntu will fail to recognize USD devices and connect to the internet(recognize my ethernet card?) 9/10 times I turn it on
[06:04] <adorablepuppy> I have installed NetworkManager, however, it doesn't appear that it recognizes my wireless card (Atheros, native driver).
[06:04] <rpc> is this ok for 300GB SATA drive?
[06:04] <rpc> Timing cached reads:   1854 MB in  1.99 seconds = 932.53 MB/sec
[06:04] <rpc>  Timing buffered disk reads:  176 MB in  3.00 seconds =  58.59 MB/sec
[06:04] <patrialt> okay, im trying to extract a .zip from the GUI prog "File Roller" and when i attempt to extract the file, i dont have permission to put the file where im attempting
[06:04] <patrialt> is there a GUI type of solution? :P
[06:04] <puff> trinkolade: Hm, not quite sure how to read this:  http://darksleep.com/puff/redbitter_alsamixer2.png
[06:05] <cryosphere> i trying to figure out if what i do in the Grub menu makes a difference, or if rebooting vs turning off/turning on makes a diffrence
[06:05] <emilia> macd : didnt work, im still getting the same error, i cant even rename any of the files in the folder
[06:05] <macd> patrialt, right click on desktop, select scripts --> root_nautilus-here
[06:06] <__doc__> hi, I'm reading about http://www.chzsoft.com.ar/855patch.html since I've only got 255 bit colors on my dell inspirion, is this the "official" way or is there a better?
[06:06] <cryosphere> but as of now there seems to be to no rhyme or reason that would let me debug this problme
[06:06] <trinkolade> puff, mhmm, okay, what does "fuser /dev/dsp" say?
[06:06] <onats> help, sudo grub-install hd0,1
[06:06] <onats> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[06:06] <onats> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[06:06] <macd> emilia, NTFS or FAT32 ?
[06:06] <emilia> macd : ntfs
[06:06] <tendo> why would iwconfig see rausb1 but ifup doesnt?
[06:06] <adriaticator> I just upgraded Eclipse 3.2.1 to 3.2.2 and now the internal web browser doesn't work. It was working fine before and I'm sure my MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME is set properly
[06:06] <mrpoundsign> hello.  seems the -11 kernel update broke my Nvidia binary driver.  Stuck in command-line (if I log in my machine crashes with the nv driver, won't run with the nvidia driver)
[06:07] <macd> emilia, does it say access denied file in use by another user or program?
[06:07] <Omni-> so, are there any links to places with walkthroughs on how to install the games that can be tweaked for linux
[06:07] <emilia> macd : neither, file not found, ill screenshot it for you
[06:07] <puff> trinkolade: /dev/dsp:             4946
[06:07] <macd> no need.
[06:07] <mackinac> i am trying to make a launcher for an app running in wine - - how to make the terminal window close after launching (or not open to begin with)?
[06:07] <cryosphere> any attempts to explain this one?
[06:07] <tendo> what would make iwconfig see a networking device but ifup not see it?
[06:07] <trinkolade> mralphabet, have you reinstalled the nvidia-drivers?
[06:07] <istill316> all the videos I play appear washed-out... help?
[06:07] <adorablepuppy> My wireless card is working, but since networkmanager can't see it at the moment, it won't let me connect to a VPN.
[06:07] <patrialt> macd when i right click i have no 'scripts' option
[06:08] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: I apt-get removed them then apt-get installed them, yes.
[06:08] <sethk> istill316, wash your glasses?  take off your sunglasses?
[06:08] <rpc> lol
[06:08] <istill316> if only 'twas that easy! :P
[06:08] <sethk> istill316, lasik?  :)
[06:08] <rpc> he he
[06:08] <trinkolade> puff, "ps -p with the number" that fuser told you
[06:08] <istill316> too expensive
[06:08] <cryosphere> any ideas how to even start?
[06:08] <cryosphere> *on how to even start?
[06:08] <trinkolade> mrpoundsign, error messages?
[06:09] <sethk> istill316, yes, I know, plus I'm not letting anybody near my eyes with a laser.  :)
[06:09] <rpc> btw does lasik really work? anyone with experiences like that?
[06:09] <istill316> lol
[06:09] <sethk> istill316, only video has the problem?
[06:09] <Music_Shuffle> !offtopic | rpc
[06:09] <ubotu> rpc: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:09] <Music_Shuffle> :P
[06:09] <istill316> yeah
[06:09] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: modprobe -a nvidia says there was an error installing the nvidia driver.
[06:09] <istill316> as far as I can tell, anyway
[06:09] <rpc> Music_Shuffle uh huh :)
[06:09] <istill316> normal images seem to be fine
[06:09] <sethk> rpc, most people still need reading glasses, but it is supposed to work well for distance.
[06:09] <puff> trinkolade:  4946 ?        00:00:01 esd
[06:09] <sethk> istill316, odd.
[06:09] <trinkolade> mrpoundsign, what kind of error?
[06:09] <rpc> sethk very nice
[06:09] <emilia> http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sshotdelerrorbj3.jpg
[06:09] <adorablepuppy> -_-;; Guess nobody can help me then.
[06:09] <emilia> macd : http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sshotdelerrorbj3.jpg
[06:10] <trinkolade> puff, do you need esd? What version of Ubuntu do you use?
[06:10] <puff> dapper.
[06:10] <trinkolade> puff, esd is obsolete iirc
[06:10] <puff> I have no idea if I need esd :-).
[06:10] <istill316> happens for dvds, avi, mpg, wmv.... everything except for flash videos
[06:10] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: doesn't say, just says "WARNING:  Error running install command for nvidia"
[06:10] <rpc> and how about slow SATA speeds on my box? any ideas what can be wrong? i can hardly pull 4MB/s and it's choking like crazy
[06:10] <puff> First time I"ve heard of it.
[06:10] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: would copy and paste, but again, I am stuck at command line.  can't log in or my machine will crash.  h
[06:10] <macd> patrialt, then you should install nautilus-script-manager and install the script for root-nautilus, directions can be found in the ubuntu forums.
[06:10] <patrialt> k, guess i'll start searching lol
[06:10] <trinkolade> puff, no, i think you don't, but you may try to start rhythmbox with "esddsp rhythmbox" first
[06:11] <dyrne> adorablepuppy: you can do that from the command line if its just a problem with network manager.
[06:11] <Vilhelms> i'm trying to figure out how to run a 3d game in xgl but i am having a problem with it. i am launching the game in a separate 3d display but the performance is horrible even so. i tried doing it even without xgl running and the performance was just as bad. the only way it works fine is if i'm out of xgl and i run the game normally. is this normal? how could i improve performance running the game in a separate display?
[06:11] <onats> should i install grub in hd0?
[06:11] <trinkolade> mralphabet, then put it in a file and load it on a webspace
[06:11] <macd> patrialt, its a great idea to learn howto install things like that ;)
[06:11] <patrialt> yea
[06:11] <merlin2049er> how do i fix my video display, xwindows doesnt start ?
[06:12] <macd> emilia, what happens if you right click the folder and hit properties, what is the size on disk?
[06:12] <patrialt> just sometimes it's more hassle than it's worth to searth thru forums for hours
[06:12] <adorablepuppy> dyrne, I've tried from the command line. I get an error, then I found a website that said people on edgy have this problem and that it's easier to use NetworkManager for VPN.
[06:12] <macd> merlin2049er, usually "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" works.
[06:12] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: any ideas?
[06:12] <dyrne> adorablepuppy: what kind of error? what kind of vpn connection are you making?
[06:12] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here tell me where I can find a comparison of 6.10 and 7.04... I am tempted to upgrade but not sure what the advantages if any are.
[06:13] <mrpoundsign> I am using a nvidia 7800 gt, if that helps
[06:13] <Music_Shuffle> !feisty | mvfeinstein
[06:13] <ubotu> mvfeinstein: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:13] <trinkolade> mrpoundsign, not without any error messages
[06:13] <mvfeinstein> Music_Shuffle ty
[06:13] <trinkolade> mrpoundsign, using nv as driver crashes xorg too?
[06:13] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: where would I look for error messages?
[06:13] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[06:13] <dyrne> mvfeinstein: do you have any problems in 6.10?
[06:14] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: yeah.  I had to install command-line and then installed the nvidia driver, which worked before running the patches.
[06:14] <trinkolade> mrpoundsign, dmesg, syslog, /var/log/
[06:14] <puff> trinkolade: Okay, so something different, but still broken happens when I "esddsp rhythmbox"
[06:14] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: nothing in /var/log/messages
[06:14] <adorablepuppy> dyrne: Just a VPN to my work. The error is: "Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP"
[06:14] <adorablepuppy> I'm told by another website that the problem lies in pptpd. . . . I don't know what to believe now. I was using pptpconfig
[06:14] <trinkolade> puff, what different?
[06:14] <puff> trinkolade: No music coming out of the speakers, but some random sound, and the rhythmbox process locks up a for a minute or three.
[06:14] <mackinac> can I make a terminal window close after launching a GUI app , without making the app quit ?
[06:14] <mvfeinstein> dyrne, I have run into a few problems and every time I look them up online it seems like a new version of some package will fix it. I am also wondering if there are any new features in the new version
[06:15] <trinkolade> puff, okay, try this "/etc/init.d/esound stop". Does it work?
[06:15] <puff> mackinac: man nohup
[06:15] <mackinac> puff:  tyvm!
[06:15] <dyrne> mvfeinstein: well its stable enough im using it on my laptop and desktop.  id think at this point though unless you have hardware issues in 6.10 there might not be alot of difference in packages available
[06:16] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: is there some restricted package I need to reinstall
[06:16] <bulmer> mackinac info nohup
[06:16] <puff> trinkolade: there is no /etc/init.d/esound.  The only e* is evms.
[06:16] <puff> trinkolade: there is no /etc/init.d/esound.  The only /etc/init.d/e* is evms.
[06:17] <trinkolade> mrpoundsign, I don't know what you've done, but I think it should work with reinstalling the nvidia-drivers :/
[06:17] <dyrne> adorablepuppy: yell at your IT department and tell them to move to ipsec
[06:17] <mvfeinstein> dyrne, do you know off hand which kernel version it ships with?
[06:18] <adorablepuppy> dyrne: I'm lucky that we even have a server to goto. Isn't there anything I can do?
[06:18] <dyrne> uname -r says 2.6.20-8-386
[06:18] <__doc__> any of you know a an end user friendly firewall and malware scanner for linux?
[06:18] <mackinac> bulmer:  ty too :)
[06:18] <trinkolade> puff, mhmm...try "killall esd"
[06:18] <Music_Shuffle> !firestarter | __doc__
[06:18] <ubotu> __doc__: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:18] <bulmer> mackinac your're welcome
[06:19] <trinkolade> puff, then start rhythmbox again
[06:19] <RaCarter> hey.. is there a package for sun's version of java in the standard apt-get repositories for ubuntu?
[06:19] <RaCarter> cause I heard sun made it open source now
[06:19] <Music_Shuffle> RaCarter, mmhmm.
[06:19] <arrenlex> !java | RaCarter
[06:19] <Music_Shuffle> !java | RaCarter
[06:19] <ubotu> RaCarter: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:19] <trinkolade> RaCarter, no, it is in multiverse iirc
[06:19] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: ok, can you tell me how to see if the driver is loaded?
[06:19] <__doc__> Music_Shuffle: that's one half the deal. The other beeing malware which makes in trough a user
[06:19] <arrenlex> RaCarter: Not the libraries. Not yet. Just the compiler.
[06:20] <Music_Shuffle> __doc__, dunno, I've never needed.
[06:20] <trinkolade> mralphabet, lsmod if you load it as module or type in "dmesg"
[06:20] <RaCarter> so does sun's version being open source make the gcj obsolete?
[06:20] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: modprobe -l shows some nvidia stuff in there.  nvidia-agp and nvidiaifab
[06:20] <dyrne> adorablepuppy: only vpn stuff ive done is under solaris and cisco stuff sorry
[06:22] <noodles12> when compiling a c++ program in the terminal, is there a command to make it display teh number of errors.. lke " error= 9" or something?
[06:22] <istill316> :(
[06:22] <dyrne> adorablepuppy: you could put putty on your win machine at work and setup tunneling and forwarding.  though some places that might get you fired
[06:23] <puff> trinkolade: Bingo, works now.
[06:23] <dyrne> adorablepuppy: you dont work at the pentagon or anything im assuming :)
[06:23] <puff> trinkolade: Hm.  I'm pretty sure esd was only installed as part of the raft of stuff I installed for media support.
[06:23] <mvfeinstein> dyrne, might be worth it just to not have to upgrade my kernel... is there anything worth mentioning in the new version?
[06:23] <Gon> guh
[06:23] <puff> trinkolade: Many thanks.
[06:23] <trinkolade> puff, try to uninstall it
[06:23] <Gon> anyone got a really good tutorial for wc3 on ubuntu?
[06:23] <trinkolade> puff, np
[06:23] <puff> Depends: libaudiofile0 (>= 0.2.3-4), libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), esound-common (>= 0.2.36-3ubuntu3)
[06:24] <Gon> !wine
[06:24] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:24] <trinkolade> Gon, what is the problem? Install wine, then wc3 and it should work ;)
[06:24] <dyrne> mvfeinstein: i went from dapper to feisty so kind of skipped a step.  my impression was that most of the stuff making me want to upgrade to feisty was in edgy. i just wanted to play with latest for once.
[06:24] <Gon> meh
[06:24] <Gon> the problem is
[06:24] <richiefrich> hello i was told you all arent going to support ppc no more?
[06:24] <Gon> i dunno how to install wc3
[06:24] <Gon> i installed wine
[06:24] <Gon> it updated and stuff
[06:24] <richiefrich> is that true can anyone say for sure?
[06:24] <Gon> and now i'm stuck
[06:24] <Gon> :(
[06:24] <trinkolade> Gon, you have a CD?
[06:25] <mvfeinstein> dyrne, makes sense... I guess that is part of the reason I started thinking about the upgrade
[06:25] <puff> Argh, meanwhile, on my other box, just got a tiger email about:  NEW: --WARN-- [rootkit004w]  Chkrootkit has detected a possible rootkit installation
[06:25] <Trippen> is there a way to eject the ubuntu livecd so i can burn an iso
[06:25] <Gon> trinkolade:  yes i do have the cd
[06:25] <Music_Shuffle> Trippen, not while...running the LiveCD >.>
[06:25] <Trippen> so that is not possible huh
[06:26] <trinkolade> puff, do you use the system as webserver or as a service provider?
[06:26] <bulmer> Trippen: i dont know, try chroot and then dis mount the cd..see if it works
[06:26] <Trippen> whats chroot
[06:26] <Mixx> is there a list of boot options (specifically, I'm looking to install by forcing VESA driver)
[06:26] <bulmer> Trippen: info chroot
[06:26] <trinkolade> Gon, mount it and then type in "wine /mnt/point/to/the/cd/setup.exe"
[06:26] <Gon> how do i mount it?
[06:26] <Trippen> sure bulmer  ill take some info
[06:27] <Music_Shuffle> bulmer, if he wants to write one though, I dunno if K3b will run solely in RAM without needing to draw from the disk at all
[06:27] <puff> trinkolade:  web server.
[06:27] <Gon> i keep getting errors when i try to mount
[06:27] <bulmer> Trippen try that command first... info chroot
[06:27] <unity> how should i configure portmap to allow my computer to run an nfs server? currently, when i try to mount something from another computer, it takes 1-2 minutes to mount and people are saying it's a portmap issue
[06:27] <Trippen> info chroot
[06:27] <trinkolade> Mixx, yes, you should be able to choose while booting the live-cd
[06:27] <Trippen> you mean in a term
[06:27] <Music_Shuffle> Trippen, yes.
[06:27] <mrpoundsign> can someone tell me how to list the currently installed apt packages?
[06:27] <puff> trinkolade: And general-purpose shell server for myself, my brother and a couple friends.
[06:27] <DigitalNinja> test
[06:27] <bulmer> Trippen: yes in a terminal
[06:27] <Mixx> trinkolade i know i can, i'm looking for a comprehensive list of options available at boot time =)
[06:27] <arrenlex> mrpoundsign: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[06:28] <Dreadnought> !restricted
[06:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <Gon> ya there trinkolade
[06:28] <Gon> ?
[06:28] <puff> trinkolade: Come to think of it, my brother was just in there messing with threading libraries for a project, so...
[06:28] <trinkolade> puff, maybe someone broke in, you should get a live-cd with scanning tools and run it
[06:28] <Trippen> i dont understand what it is for
[06:28] <arrenlex> mrpoundsign: If you want only the names: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}'
[06:28] <patbam> hi, when i run audacity i get "there was an error initilaizing the audio i/o layer. you will not be able ot play or record audio"
[06:28] <patbam> is there anything i can do to fix that?
[06:28] <__doc__> btw. has somebody noticed how XP beats ubuntu effordlessly in boot times on slow hardware (at least from a fresh install). It's kind of embarrasing imho
[06:28] <Gon> :(
[06:28] <arrenlex> __doc__: And on non-slow hardware as well.
[06:29] <puff> trinkolade: I just went through this cycle of "geez, that dist-upgrade threw a false postiive rootkit warning, no wait that was on my laptop and the warning is on my webserver, no wait bro was also apting stuff..."
[06:29] <__doc__> arrenlex: yeah but there you notice it less
[06:29] <puff> trinkolade: Much thanks.
[06:29] <arrenlex> __doc__: But at least once Linux is booted, it's booted. Once windows is "booted" it lets you move the mouse around while it finishes booting.
[06:29] <Gon> :(
[06:29] <puff> CAtchalater.
[06:29] <adorablepuppy> dyrne: I suppose I'll just have to use windows then . . . :(
[06:29] <trinkolade> puff, i don't exactly know how chrootkit work but I think it checks the different programs by evaluating the checksums. Paste the complete output of chrootkit somewhere
[06:30] <trinkolade> puff, okay...
[06:30] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: what's the proper command to load the nvidia driver?  modprobe -a nvidia?
[06:31] <__doc__> arrenlex: yeah but for instance XP live update and ubuntu update after install are precisely the same affair on slow hardware. Simply sucks up all processing power with network/disc access and even though you can move the mouse around, you just need to sit in front of it 1-2 hours.
[06:31] <trinkolade> mrpoundsign, I don't know how the nvidia module is called, but it should be something like this. Have you read the tutorials?
[06:31] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: yes, but again, I am using links to browse the web right now, which is making it difficult.  was thinking maybe someone knew this well enough to help me out.
[06:32] <__doc__> arrenlex: on the upside, on ubuntu I did need to install no driver other then the ndiswrapper, on XP it's about 6 drivers and one service pack later that stuff starts working
[06:32] <mrpoundsign> and I am trying to browse the wiki in Links, and getting a bunch of triangles in the text, which isn't making it any easier.
[06:32] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[06:32] <__doc__> adorablepuppy: ASP, oh the humanity!
[06:33] <Flannel> mrpoundsign: w3m seems to handle it fine
[06:33] <adorablepuppy> _doc_: No kidding. Try data joining from multiple databases with ASP and access. I think I know what hell is like. . .
[06:33] <Arigato> is there an option on the live cd installer to install ubuntu on top of an existing installation while keeping the home folder?
[06:33] <mrpoundsign> Flannel: nevermind, ended up on a Bulgarian(sp?) binary driver howto page.
[06:34] <unity> i am running nfs server on ubuntu 6.10. when i try to mount an nfs share from another computer, it takes 1-2 minutes. is this normal?
[06:34] <Flannel> Arigato: yeah, you'll just mount (but not format) your home partition
[06:34] <LethalPhoenix> Hi
[06:34] <Flannel> Arigato: er, do you have a separate home partition? or just a folder?
[06:35] <Arigato> Flannel: folder
[06:35] <Trippen> how can i findout what my cdrom is listed as.. its not showing up under sudo fdisk -l
[06:35] <Flannel> Arigato: no.  You'll need to make it it's own partition
[06:35] <lgc> Hello! What do I have to tweak on my Dapper to be able to listen to You Tube videos?
[06:35] <Sharn> Hey, my friend is having trouble with the livecd booting. He says it gets done with the Ubuntu splash screen and loading bar, goes back to text for a second then displays something along the lines of "Unable, and RMG." Anyone ever seen something like it?
[06:36] <DigitalNinja> Does ubuntu support viewports? This is where you get different desktop backrounds virtual terminals or something. I'm using beryl and it's an option in the settings
[06:36] <trinkolade> lgc, upgrade to flash 9 or kill all other apps that are using the sound device
[06:36] <Flannel> lgc: install flash 9 (from backports), it fixes a bunch of issues
[06:36] <Flannel> DigitalNinja: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[06:37] <DigitalNinja> Flannel: Thanks
[06:37] <lgc> trinkolade, Flannel, thanks for the quick answer. How do I go about it?
[06:37] <Omni-> so, if there is anyone in here that cares to help, how do I get ubuntu edgy to detect a raid array?
[06:37] <Gon> how do i play the game?
[06:37] <Gon> xD
[06:37] <Gon> oops
[06:37] <Gon> wrong channel
[06:37] <Pelo> Omni-,  I'm sure there is something in the forum about this,  you can also try this http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84
[06:38] <Flannel> lgc: usually you want to manually download the package, and install it with dpkg, there's a whole lot of stuff in backports, stuff you probably don't want (and you'll get when adding it as a repository)
[06:38] <trinkolade> Gon, "cd .wine/drive_c/program\ files/Warcraft3/ && wine wc3.exe"? :D
[06:38] <Omni-> Pelo, thanks, trying to become MS free, except for gaming :-D
[06:38] <LethalPhoenix> Hello, I need help installing S3 Twister Graphics on ubuntu, anyone can help?
[06:38] <Openix> Omni: are you using the standard live cd or the alternate?
[06:38] <Pelo> Omni-,  stop gaming
[06:38] <Flannel> lgc: packages.ubuntu.com, switch to backports repo, search for flash, find the package, scroll down to the bottom of it's page, and download it that way
[06:39] <lgc> Flannel, I'm always embarassed to ask you this question: What is a backport?
[06:39] <Omni-> Pelo - I love PC gaming, and I'm beginning to love linux. I guess this is why most linux users have POS computers, and lots of consoles :-D\
[06:39] <lgc> Flannel, s/always/almost
[06:40] <linuxuser05> anyone know how to get a wireless card to work with ubuntui
[06:40] <linuxuser05> ubuntu
[06:40] <yharrow> Backporting is the action of taking a certain software modification (patch) and applying it to an older version of the software than it was initially created for. It is part of the maintenance step in a software development process.
[06:40] <Flannel> lgc: backports are a specific repository of newer versions of software (like flash 9) released for older distributions
[06:40] <LethalPhoenix> i need help next if its possible
[06:40] <magez> how can i burn ccd-files under ubuntu?!?
[06:40] <Pelo> !wireless | linuxuser05
[06:40] <ubotu> linuxuser05: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:40] <zero88> dear ubuntu gurus and knowledgables... i am stuck in a budge, i have installed Edgy 6.10, and works beautifully. My internet works while hardwired but does not when i try to do wireless. my card uses the ipw3945 drivers wich come already installed on edgy and i also get a full status bar when trying to use wireless,and also get incoming packets,i believe everything is good but i am not able to send any traffic, ive tried assignin
[06:40] <zero88> g my ip again using sudo ifdown ifup eth1, but no luck,Can anybody help me???
[06:40] <bulmer> linuxuser05: what card do you have?
[06:40] <Flannel> yharrow: that's not what it is in this context though.
[06:40] <yharrow> The simplest and probably most common situation of backporting is a fixed security hole in a younger version of a software.
[06:40] <lgc> Flannel, Oh, I see. A retrofit.
[06:40] <yharrow> oh ok
[06:40] <linuxuser05> 1470 in dell
[06:40] <zoexii> hello, can anyone help me troubleshoot network manager?  The package is installed, but I cannot add the appplet to my panel, it does not appear as an option in the "add to panel" window
[06:40] <LethalPhoenix> People one at a time
[06:40] <yharrow> flannel, perhaps i misunderstood
[06:40] <Pelo> magez,  have you tried gnomebaker ?
[06:40] <LethalPhoenix> jeez
[06:41] <Openix> Omni-: are you using the alternate install cd?
[06:41] <yharrow> flannel, what would be the correct definition?
[06:41] <yharrow> in the current context
[06:41] <Pelo> LethalPhoenix,  this is not how it works, there isn't a queue ,  just ask your question and if someone can help they will try
[06:41] <inuyashafreak> hi
[06:41] <Flannel> yharrow: that's what backports are, in a strict sense, but the 'backports' repository, contains newer versions of software, not just patches.  The main repositories actually `backport` in the strict sense (we'll continue to get FF1.5 fixes, after mozilla drops support for it, for instance)
[06:41] <killerk> hello everyone
[06:42] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: could it be that the linux-restricted-modules that were installed did not get upgraded for -11 ?
[06:42] <LethalPhoenix> i see, i asked earlier about installing S3 Twister Graphics on ubuntu
[06:42] <killerk> i need some help
[06:42] <inuyashafreak> i can help
[06:42] <LethalPhoenix> driver*
[06:42] <killerk> i want to use ubuntu on my laptop
[06:42] <Music_Shuffle> !ask
[06:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:42] <yharrow> flannel oh ok. cool
[06:42] <Omni-> Openix - no, why?
[06:42] <bulmer> zero88: what is the issue?
[06:42] <killerk> but i have no clue how to setup my wireless card
[06:42] <Spark> i'm having problems moving from one partition to another
[06:42] <trinkolade> mrpoundsign, try to reinstall them
[06:42] <inuyashafreak> lol
[06:42] <Pelo> LethalPhoenix,  try in the forum,  search for your card model , you'll probably find a tutorial
[06:42] <Openix> Omni-: I think this caters for raid arrays
[06:42] <Spark> i've got the whole thing sorted, except that i can't get grub to install itself on another partition
[06:42] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: working on it.
[06:42] <killerk> i tried that
[06:42] <Spark> i do grub-install /dev/hda2
[06:42] <inuyashafreak> i can help
[06:42] <killerk> but i couldnt find anything
[06:42] <LethalPhoenix> kk
[06:43] <Spark> and it waits for ages, eventually says everything is ok
[06:43] <Pelo> !wireless | killerk
[06:43] <ubotu> killerk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:43] <Spark> but then when i boot up, i get error 17
[06:43] <Omni-> Openix - you mean the alternate?
[06:43] <zero88> bulmer, im jsut nto able to connect to the net, my card is working fine i beleive by me being able to get incoming packets,i jstu cant send any packets
[06:43] <Pelo> Spark,  try asking in #grub
[06:43] <Openix> Omni-: yep
[06:43] <Flannel> !raid | Omni-
[06:43] <ubotu> Omni-: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:43] <bulmer> zero88: can you tell me what you have and what you have done so far to troubleshoot?
[06:44] <Omni-> oh great, more downloading with bandwidth I cant afford, lol
[06:44] <magez> there is errors when i try to install some packages, so how can i remove those?!?!
[06:44] <magez> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:44] <magez>  gforge-db-postgresql
[06:44] <magez>  gforge-web-apache
[06:44] <magez>  gforge-theme-starterpack
[06:44] <magez> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:44] <magez>  gforge-db-postgresql
[06:44] <magez>  gforge-web-apache
[06:44] <mrpoundsign> trinkolade: that was it, needed to install the -restricted modules.
[06:44] <magez>  gforge-theme-starterpack
[06:44] <Flannel> !paste | magez
[06:44] <magez> sorry
[06:44] <ubotu> magez: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:44] <trinkolade> mrpoundsign, well done, soldier
[06:45] <yharrow> anyone know why wifi-radar detects and configures certain intel wireless pro connections but the standard network-admin does not?
[06:45] <zero88> bulmer well ive tried sudo ifdown sudo ifup eth1, basically is all i have down. im not sure exactly what kind of card i have, but i use the ipw3945 drivers, they were working fine on dapper,but sence ive uppgraded i havent had to install them manually
[06:45] <patrialt> macd i installed the nautilus files, how did you say to enable the root access to unzip again?
[06:46] <killerk> ok i checked that website but i dont know where to find info on how to install a wireless card
[06:46] <killerk> I have a netgear MA521 PCMCIA
[06:46] <emilia> anyone feel like helping me out, i transferred some files from ubuntu, to xp, using ftp, and now i cant delete them off my xp machine, the error i get is that the file isnt found, i have a screenshot of the error as well
[06:46] <emilia> http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sshotdelerrorbj3.jpg
[06:47] <cryosphere> emilia: do you have a dual-boot machine
[06:47] <emilia> cryosphere : no 2 seperate pcs
[06:47] <bulmer> zero88: lets do some checking...what do you have in /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/
[06:47] <LethalPhoenix> hmm i found my answer
[06:47] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm having a problem running Nethack-gnome. It errors:
[06:47] <kitsuneofdoom> Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) serial 28140 error_code 8 request_code 62 minor_code 0
[06:47] <kitsuneofdoom> Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) serial 28161 error_code 8 request_code 62 minor_code 0
[06:47] <LethalPhoenix> but how do i open command prompt in ubuntu?
[06:47] <emilia> LethalPhoenix : accessories -> terminal
[06:47] <bulmer> LethalPhoenix: you can ctrl+alt+f1 and log on
[06:48] <LethalPhoenix> thx
[06:48] <killerk> cany anyone help me setup a Netgear MA521 PCMCIA Wireless card in Ubuntu?
[06:48] <screechingcat> emilia: this is not a problem with ubuntu but with windows. try rebooting and deleting
[06:48] <Music_Shuffle> LethalPhoenix, alt-f2 and type in 'gnome-terminal' works too. :)
[06:48] <progek> My dad was having internet connection trouble so I tried using a live CD since it would isolate the problem. The internet did not work there either so I figured the wireless card went out (since it used to work fine, live cd or on his machine) we replaced the wireless card but still nothing. He was running dapper so I installed edgy hoping that would fix whatever problem but no luck. Any ideas? The light comes on the wireless card and und
[06:48] <zero88> bulmer says no such file or directory
[06:48] <emilia> screechingcat: yeah ive tried that, no luck, even a scandisk
[06:48] <LethalPhoenix> emilia: that works for installing graphics right?
[06:48] <LethalPhoenix> drivers*?
[06:48] <emilia> LethalPhoenix: what do you mean installing graphics?
[06:48] <bulmer> zero: what did you type exactly?
[06:48] <LethalPhoenix> i want to install my S3 Twister Driver on ubuntu
[06:48] <cables> progek, maybe it's the card slot...
[06:48] <lgc> Flannel, don't backports become eventually part of the release, so that one gets them automatically with dist-upgrade?
[06:48] <LethalPhoenix> but i found the code
[06:48] <cryosphere> emilia: i had something like that happen in windows, Im not sure why, but what I did was put in a LiveCD into my windows machine, mounted my windows harddrive and deleted the files
[06:49] <LethalPhoenix> i want to type it in =S
[06:49] <emilia> LethalPhoenix: yes, you can type the commands to install the drivers there
[06:49] <progek> you mean the pci slots? I tried all 4 of them :/
[06:49] <LethalPhoenix> ah
[06:49] <LethalPhoenix> kk
[06:49] <progek> it's very strange
[06:49] <cnmsales> Can any tell me why i cant get SU? Im trying to add ndiswrapper to etc/modules but its giving me a permissions error when trying to save
[06:49] <emilia> cryosphere: how did you delete ntfs files from a live cd?
[06:49] <Flannel> lgc: no.  backports never become part of the release.  Versions of software are always frozen
[06:49] <istill316> hello again
[06:49] <zero88> bulmer this      2.6.17-10-generic   is in /lib/firemware
[06:49] <trinkolade> cnmsales, "sudo ..."?
[06:50] <istill316> Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN4> line 9.
[06:50] <bulmer> cnmsales: do this  sudo su -   then you will become root..be very careful of commands you type after
[06:50] <cnmsales> what command would i want to use?
[06:50] <cnmsales> ty bulmer
[06:50] <Flannel> cnmsales, bulmer, don't use that.  use sudo -i
[06:50] <progek> I know the intergraded sound went out the same time the internet did (or around the same time) I installed another sound card to get that working. Could the problem be his mobo?
[06:50] <Xenguy> cnmsales: sudo -i
[06:50] <bulmer> zero88 then whats the subdir below it if any?
[06:50] <cnmsales> k
[06:50] <killerk> so can i get help on installing my wireless card?
[06:50] <cables> !wifi | killerk
[06:51] <ubotu> killerk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:51] <inuyashafreak> sudo dpkg -i crossover-pro_6.0.0-2_i386.deb
[06:51] <patrialt> im trying to extract a .zip package into a restricted directory, how can i gain access to copy the files? (a GUI solutions plz:P )
[06:51] <inuyashafreak> woops
[06:51] <cryosphere> emilia: yeah I guess I always used fat32, to make it easier to deal with linux
[06:51] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm having a problem running Nethack-gnome. It errors:
[06:51] <inuyashafreak> wrong window
[06:51] <killerk> where do i go from there on how to setup a netgear MA521
[06:51] <killerk> ?
[06:51] <inuyashafreak> lol
[06:51] <kitsuneofdoom> Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) serial 28140 error_code 8 request_code 62 minor_code 0
[06:51] <bulmer> man, there must be a firesale of wireless cards..a handful is asking for help in installing it..lolz
[06:51] <unity> how long should it take to mount an nfs share?
[06:51] <kitsuneofdoom> Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) serial 28161 error_code 8 request_code 62 minor_code 0
[06:51] <lgc> Flannel, then how is it that updating on the same release is never-ending? I mean, every couple of day there's something else to upgrade on the same release. What is what (in general) does change?
[06:51] <Flannel> patrialt: er... a gui solution?  `gksudo nautilus` (alt-f2, then that).  BE CAREFUL
[06:51] <Music_Shuffle> unity, not long?
[06:52] <emilia> im so boned, that ugly folder on my desktop will never go away
[06:52] <Xenguy> patrialt: if you don't have access, then you shouldn't have access  ?
[06:52] <zero88> bulmer   ls /lib/firmware/2.6.17-10-generic
[06:52] <zero88>    inside that is alot i wont be able to cut and paste it all,but my ipw3945 files are in there
[06:52] <Flannel> lgc: they're all bugfixes and security fixes
[06:52] <patrialt> xenguy im trying to install sound files into a game directory, a place i SHOULD have access :P
[06:52] <Sharn> Hey, my friend is having trouble with the livecd booting. He says it gets done with the Ubuntu splash screen and loading bar, goes back to text for a second then displays something along the lines of "Unable, and RMG." Anyone ever seen something like it?
[06:52] <killerk> is setting up a wireless card in ubuntu hard?
[06:52] <bulmer> zero88 umm do this   lsmod | grep ipw
[06:52] <zero88> bulmer well actually just ipw3945.ucode
[06:53] <Xenguy> patrialt: get root then
[06:53] <patrialt> Flannel someone was telling me about a nautilus-script where i can right click my desktop, go to script, then something else
[06:53] <patrialt> do you know anything of this?
[06:53] <patrialt> Heh, idk how to get root >.<
[06:53] <zero88> bulmer ipw3945               124576  1
[06:53] <zero88> ieee80211              35272  1 ipw3945
[06:53] <patrialt> like...via the desktop enviroment
[06:53] <Xenguy> patrialt: somebody just told you above
[06:53] <killerk> is setting up a wireless card in ubuntu easy or difficult?
[06:53] <patrialt> well yea, i know that way
[06:53] <lgc> Flannel, and something like my Dapper's not being able to reproduce any sounds from You Tube is not considered a bug? (I'm really not trying to irritate you, but to learn something here.)
[06:53] <unity> Music_Shuffle: it takes about 2 minutes here...is that normal?
[06:53] <RaCarter> does anyone know if you need apache to install subversion server?
[06:53] <Xenguy> patrialt: what Flannel said
[06:54] <williammanda> can someone tell me how to set permissions on a folder
[06:54] <bulmer> zero88 is there a /lib/firmware/`uname -r/ipw/default  dir?
[06:54] <Music_Shuffle> unity, slow network connection? Sure :)
[06:54] <Xenguy> williammanda: yes
[06:54] <progek> williammanda chmod
[06:54] <Muzik83> williammanda: what permissions do you wish to set?
[06:54] <cnmsales> xenguy :  sudo -i cat "ndiswrapper" > /etc/modules gives permissions denied
[06:54] <unity> Music_Shuffle: slow as a 100mbit, =(
[06:54] <williammanda> no restrictions
[06:54] <Flannel> lgc: flash7 (the dapper version of flash) is bloody old, and the method it uses for sound is antiquated and has issues.  The new one solves most of thoseproblems
[06:54] <Xenguy> williammanda: and in *nix it is a directory :-)
[06:54] <Music_Shuffle> unity, oh. Then its slow, yes.
[06:54] <killerk> what is the best linux distro?
[06:54] <Openix> chmod 777 myfolder
[06:54] <Xenguy> cnmsales: do sudo -i first/separately
[06:55] <bulmer> cnmsales: put everything after sudo in  "  "
[06:55] <cnmsales> ahhhh
[06:55] <cnmsales> ty
[06:55] <Flannel> williammanda: you don't want to do that.
[06:55] <Xenguy> np
[06:55] <williammanda> ?
[06:55] <killerk> so what do u guys think is the best linux distro?
[06:55] <Flannel> williammanda: set no restrictions.  That, 99.9% of the time is a bad idea.
[06:55] <progek> so any ideas what can be wrong with my dads machine? His internet is not working, new install of edgy, brand new wireless card, the network manager says it's active and the lights on the card itself are on.
[06:55] <zero88> bulmer /lib/firmware/2.6.17-10-generic/ipw3945.ucode
[06:55] <zero88>  /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw3945  /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw3945/ipw3945.ko
[06:55] <zero88>   and under locations other then/lib/firmware
[06:55] <Muzik83> williammanda: 777 will give anyone who has access to your system the ability to write and erase everything in that folder
[06:55] <Openix> williammanda: chmod 755 myfolder is better
[06:56] <Flannel> williammanda: what folder are you working on?
[06:56] <williammanda> mythtv
[06:56] <Xenguy> williammanda: you probably want something like 755 on most directories
[06:56] <killerk> ... how difficult is setting up a wireless card in ubuntu?
[06:56] <patrialt> idk which is worse, setting no restrictions, or having to use gksudo nautilus all the time to access
[06:56] <williammanda> for the recordings
[06:56] <progek> all other machines are working fine in our lan, even one which has a wireless card and edgy
[06:56] <Xenguy> Flannel: it's not a folder; it's a directory :P
[06:56] <williammanda> ty
[06:56] <lgc> Flannel, OK, but that's then too much for being considered just a bug so it's not fixed with an update?
[06:57] <Flannel> lgc: flash isn't open source, it's proprietary, we dont have the ability to chnge/patch/fix it
[06:57] <Muzik83> for MythTV, there is only ever one user who needs to be able to write to that folder...  My system, that user is mythtv, so if I do a chown mythtv /var/lib/mythrecordings then a chmod 755 /var/lib/recordings/* that is the best way to set it up
[06:57] <Flannel> lgc: macromedia (adobe) gives us a binary file and says 'here, use this'
[06:58] <cnmsales> Xenguy: is it normal for /etc/modules to be empty?
[06:58] <bulmer> zero88: and the problem is what again? you see packets going out but not going in?
[06:58] <Flannel> patrialt: gksudo nautilus is better.  I know it seem like you're using it a lot now, but once you finish setting everything up, you'll use it rarely.
[06:58] <patrialt> hehe yea
[06:58] <patrialt> so far i haven't broken anything with gksudo yet
[06:59] <zero88> bulmer no, the packets are comming in,well the ones that wireless routers send every second but i dont send any
[06:59] <patrialt> terminal....now that's where i break stuff
[06:59] <lgc> Flannel, I see. And their binary for Dapper turned out buggier than the one for Breezy, for example?
[06:59] <Flannel> lgc: no.  the one for dapper and breezy are identical
[06:59] <bulmer> zero88: how did you determine these?
[06:59] <Pablo> so... I keep getting messege... hardware_random: connot enable rng... how do I fix?
[06:59] <LethalPhoenix> thx GUYS, ive installed my S3 Twister Graphics!
[06:59] <LethalPhoenix> =D
[06:59] <TomHung> how do i fix a broken apt-get package install where the postinstall broke???
[06:59] <cnmsales> should I be concerned that /etc/modules was empty?
[06:59] <patrialt> why the codenames ? :( i'd rather have version #s :p
[06:59] <lgc> Flannel, then why didn't it give me trouble with Breezy?
[06:59] <zero88> bulmer watching the connection properties on eth1
[07:00] <userundefined> TomHung: try running sudo apt-get autoclean
[07:00] <screechingcat> TomHung: sudo apt-get install -f should fix any problems
[07:00] <TomHung> did that
[07:00] <bulmer> zero88 can you ping an outside address at all?
[07:00] <TomHung> did both of those options
[07:00] <zero88> bulmer no not whyle on wireless
[07:00] <Flannel> lgc: because firefox was different, it used the old sound methods
[07:00] <bulmer> zero88: can you try it now while on wireless?
[07:00] <knoppix> can I ask a quick question about 6.10 desktop I cant find packages list, does it have overlay fs like usionfs or aufs?
[07:00] <TomHung> its the post install that breaks
[07:01] <zero88> bulmer, being wired but chenge my connection to wireless?
[07:01] <Pie-rate> did a recent update break wireless internet?
[07:01] <Openix> TomHung: Did you try dpkg-reconfigure <package name>
[07:01] <lgc> Flannel, so did Opera? Because it's the same thing: no sound.
[07:01] <Flannel> lgc: opera is also proprietary
[07:01] <bulmer> zero88: if you want it troubleshooted..yeah
[07:01] <Muzik83> knoppix: it uses squashfs
[07:01] <Flannel> patrialt: Ubuntu does have version numbers, 6.06, 6.10, etc.  the codenames are used only in development
[07:02] <zero88> bulmer let me try
[07:02] <lgc> Flannel, and it's also mute on Dapper.
[07:02] <patrialt> oic
[07:02] <Pie-rate> my laptop's wifi stopped working a couple days ago, ath0 disappeared from ifconfig and iwconfig.
[07:02] <patrialt> codenames confuse me :P
[07:02] <patrialt> all i know...is i think im using edgy or something
[07:02] <Pie-rate> !wifi
[07:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:02] <TomHung> Openix: graphviz-cairo is broken or not fully installed
[07:02] <cables> lgc, are you using Flash 7 or 9?
[07:03] <lgc> cables, how do I find that out quickly? (Flannel says it's Version 7).
[07:03] <zero88> bulmer,while i have my ethernet cable still atached but am using the wireless connection ican still ping and use the iternet
[07:04] <Xenguy> lgc: dpkg -l *flash*
[07:04] <lgc> Xenguy, thanks.
[07:04] <Openix> TomHung: Have you tried to uninstall and start again?
[07:04] <bulmer> zero88: how do you know its going through the wireless and not through the wired?
[07:04] <Xenguy> lgc: yw
[07:04] <lgc> Xenguy, "No packages found matching flash."
[07:05] <zero88> bulmer im not sure,i will disconnect nd try
[07:05] <cables> lgc, change flash to flashplugin-nonfree
[07:05] <TomHung> install the package? yes it wont remove
[07:05] <Xenguy> lgc: you need to activate more repositories in synaptic I expect
[07:05] <cables> Xenguy, it's not called flash
[07:05] <cables> Xenguy, it's called flashplugin-nonfree
[07:05] <Pablo> so... I keep getting messege... hardware_random: connot enable rng... how do I fix?
[07:05] <lgc> Xenguy, they're all active.
[07:05] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> Is there a way to change Read/write permissions at the partition level in Ubuntu?
[07:06] <Xenguy> cables: you are talking to the wrong person
[07:06] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> I thought I was able to do it in 6.06, but 6.10 gets rid of the disk-admin thing so not there.
[07:06] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> I can't seem to start nautulis in sudo so I can't figure out how to do it.
[07:06] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> I have installed pysdm but don't see it there either
[07:06] <cables> Xenguy, wait, i didn't see the *'s.
[07:06] <zero88> bulmer,nope not working
[07:06] <Xenguy> cables: those are wildcards, and will reveal flashplugin-nonfree as well as other software
[07:06] <zero88> bulmer not even getting my signla status
[07:06] <Xenguy> cables: k
[07:06] <cables> Xenguy, I just realized you had those there, sorry
[07:07] <cables> lgc, how did you install flash?
[07:07] <Xenguy> cables: no worries
[07:07] <lgc> cables, I get a long output, but it basically says it's not there, I gather.
[07:07] <cables> lgc, how did you install flash in the first place?
[07:07] <TomHung> Openix: http://pastebin.com/883471
[07:08] <cables> lgc, can you do "aptitude show flashplugin-nonfree | grep Version" in a terminal?
[07:08] <TomHung> Openix: thats what i keep getting, remove, install, -f, etc
[07:08] <lgc> cables, I don't remember! If I did, it was back when I was using Breezy.
[07:09] <Openix> TomHung:I was going to suggest apt-get autoremove like the console you have suggested
[07:09] <lgc> cables, Version: 7.0.63.3ubuntu3.
[07:09] <cables> lgc, ok. Are you using Edgy now?
[07:09] <dxdemetriou> can I force gnome to use the opengl from nvidia? It works good the beryl, but not the screensavers
[07:09] <lgc> cables, I switched to Dapper not long ago.
[07:10] <cables> lgc, ok
[07:10] <TomHung> Openix: autoremove breaks in the same spot
[07:10] <lgc> cables, that's why I'm still finding unresolved issues around.
[07:10] <cables> lgc, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Ff%2Fflashplugin-nonfree%2Fflashplugin-nonfree_9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~dapper1_i386.deb&md5sum=9f431ca75c82218bf94b721217a75a7c&arch=i386&type=main
[07:10] <cables> lgc, that will take you to a download thingy for flash 9
[07:10] <varsendaggr> i need a good outlook type app
[07:11] <cables> !evolution | varsendaggr
[07:11] <ubotu> varsendaggr: evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[07:11] <varsendaggr> ahhh
[07:11] <pavs> I am trying to remove vsftp apt-get remove vsftp doesnt work :(
[07:11] <dxdemetriou> can I disable the opengl from mesa?
[07:11] <lgc> cables, I'm on it...
[07:11] <cables> lgc, download the .deb file and install it
[07:12] <Openix> TomHung: I would say you have bigger problems - post your problem to ubuntuforums.org
[07:12] <cables> lgc, close firefox first though
[07:12] <dyrne> pavs: its a small app ignore it :)
[07:12] <betatux> varsendaggr, try Thunderbird from Mozilla
[07:12] <TomHung> damnit
[07:12] <muuhDBX> is ubuntu goiung to be the os on OLTPC ?
[07:12] <pavs> dyrne I am trying to install a differant ftp server thats I want to remove it
[07:12] <cables> muuhDBX, nope. Modified Fedora I think... but don't quote me on that
[07:12] <TomHung> is there any way to manually remove it?
[07:13] <cables> TomHung, what are you removing and what error do you get?
[07:13] <muuhDBX> but you can install ubuntu also  ?
[07:13] <TomHung> cables: http://pastebin.com/883471
[07:13] <betatux> pavs, its vsftpd , notice the 'd' at the end : sudo apt-get remove vsftpd
[07:13] <cables> muuhDBX, if it has a CD drive, which I don't think it does.
[07:13] <dyrne> pavs: well you can sudo update-rc.d -f vsftpd remove  its only like a 1-200 k i think and that will stop it from running at boot.
[07:13] <TomHung> cables: i can't remove the package, or install it, with or without -f
[07:14] <yellat> anyone help with a wireless question? install/configuration issue
[07:14] <cables> muuhDBX, it's fedora, just checked.
[07:14] <muuhDBX> so ubuntu dosent suport net installs ? himmm
[07:14] <cables> !ask | yell0w
[07:14] <ubotu> yell0w: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:14] <cables> !ask | yellat
[07:14] <ubotu> yellat: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:14] <pavs> ok worked thanks guys :)
[07:14] <pavs> I missed the d
[07:14] <dyrne> muuhDBX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[07:15] <cables> lgc, how's that going?
[07:16] <muuhDBX> OLTPC has some kind if net ?
[07:16] <lgc> cables, I just finished installing it. Will Firefox recognize it without any further ado?
[07:16] <cables> lgc, yep. try it.
[07:16] <betatux> pavs . out of curiousity , which ftp server are you replacing vsftpd with ? vsftpd is fast and easy to configure , who replace ?
[07:16] <dyrne> yellat: what was the problem with wireless?
[07:16] <yellat> i tried using the guide on the forum to configure a laptop i just installed ubuntu on to use a wireless connection.  the issue is that the wireless adapter appears as eth1 and confuring it using the guide doesn't work.  iwlist scan gives a correct list of near by networks, so i know it works, sorta, just can't it to connect to anything.
[07:16] <yellat> also, in iwlist it gives several adapters, some of which i'm not so sure are actually installed
[07:17] <bulmer> yellat what does iwconfig  tells you?
[07:17] <yellat> *iwconfig
[07:17] <dyrne> yellat: from command line: sudo ifconfig eth1 up; sudo iwlist eth1 scan; sudo iwconfig eth1 essid linksys; sudo dhclient eth1
[07:17] <yellat> l0 no extensions
[07:17] <cables> lgc, did that work?
[07:17] <bulmer> yellat thats it?
[07:17] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> any way to change read/write permissions at the partiton level from an of the GUI programs (nautilus or pysdm) in 6.10
[07:17] <lgc> cables let me just finish the song I'm listening...
[07:17] <yellat> no
[07:17] <pavs> betatux I dont know I am currently doind some research
[07:18] <pavs> online
[07:18] <bulmer> yellat: btw you need to respond with my nick.so i dont miss your responses
[07:18] <yellat> theres an l0;eth0;eth1;sit1
[07:18] <betatux> Rob59-Cinti-OH, partition level can't set file permissions , it's the filesystem that takes care of permissions .
[07:18] <TomHung> how do i manually remove a package from apt-get db?
[07:18] <bulmer> yellat: btw you need to respond with my nick.so i dont miss your responses
[07:18] <dyrne> yellat: what model card? have you done sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) yet?
[07:19] <cables> lgc, I don't have all day, come on... I just helped you with something, could you be so kind as to test it so I know if it worked, and if necessary, help you more?
[07:19] <betatux> Rob59-Cinti-OH, you can however mount a filesystem read only as well ...
[07:19] <yellat> it doesn't have net so sudo apt-apt get is a bit difficult
[07:19] <yellat> i think?
[07:19] <yellat> its an intell 200bg
[07:19] <lgc> cables, It does!
[07:19] <yellat> 2200bg*
[07:19] <cables> lgc, cool.
[07:20] <lgc> cables, I forgot to tell you THANK YOU, and Flannel too.
[07:20] <arigold> ok - I have some questions - first - I am new to Ubuntu install - making the move on a thinkpad - want to su in a shell. Telling me authentication failed
[07:20] <arigold> can I login to a shell as root?
[07:20] <cables> lgc, no problem, I just got a little impatient :)
[07:20] <carthik> arigold, use sudo -s -H
[07:20] <betatux> TomHung, read : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Apt.2C_Software_and_Package_Basics
[07:20] <yellat> bulmer eth1 gives wireless extensions
[07:21] <dyrne> arigold: root is disabled. we normally just use sudo command, or sudo -i or sudo -s for root term
[07:21] <arigold> thx carthik
[07:21] <carthik> arigold, read the wiki page on sudo while you are at it :)
[07:21] <carthik> np, arigold, and welcome
[07:21] <yellat> dyrne it has no internet directly at the moment and won't till i get the wireless to work
[07:21] <bulmer> yellat: does it have an ip address assigned?
[07:21] <lgc> cables, now I'm on to watching (and listening) the video in question...:).
[07:21] <yellat> bulmer how would i check that, i'm new to linux entirely
[07:22] <arigold> ok next question as a new install - update claiming failed to fetch ... do I have to change the sources.list pointer?
[07:22] <bulmer> yellat: iwconfig eth1
[07:22] <pavs> I was following a Howto and somehow made a shorcut (link to) of a folder inside a folder ie /var/www/www/www everytime I click on www folder there is a shorcut of www inside the folder, not sure what I did . How do I remove it (not the folder but the link)
[07:22] <yellat> bulmer its a 2200bg intel card which is common and easy to use from what i can tell
[07:22] <carthik> arigold, depends, but maybe it is just a net connection problem?
[07:22] <dyrne> yellat: the sit0 and eth1 showing up just makes me think its a driver problem. i had same problem with atheros once. i could scan but not connect.
[07:22] <yellat> doesn't list one
[07:22] <carthik> arigold, unless you edited sources.list to put something in that doesn;t work
[07:22] <yellat> dyrne would make sense
[07:23] <arigold> carthik - both attempts seem to designate the same update server.. do I have to manually suggest another or is that server down?
[07:23] <carthik> arigold, not usually, no.
[07:23] <Muzik83> yellat: i have a 2200bg on my laptop, it worked out of the box on the install... make sure you have the restricted modules in (type "dpkg -l | grep restricted" )
[07:24] <arigold> OK - so there is a forum claiming the solution is "The sources.list had the debs pointed at breezy badger instead of dapper drake"
[07:24] <Muzik83> yellat: im just looking at my configuration too, because from what i rember you need "firmware" for that card in order for everything to work right
[07:24] <carthik> arigold, to try a different mirror, use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - but only if you are sure that your mirror seems to be down
[07:24] <bulmer> Muzik83: which driver is used for that?
[07:24] <Kristov> hi
[07:24] <arigold> ubuntuforms topic 234843
[07:24] <dyrne> yellat: yeah looking into it 2200bg has kernel support since dapper
[07:25] <carthik> arigold, that is a ref to when after an update, the list points to the old release...
[07:25] <arigold> carthik - doing so through command line get?
[07:25] <yellat> muzik83 it says "dpkg: unkown options -1"
[07:25] <carthik> arigold, ?
[07:25] <Muzik83> bulmer: ipw2200 is its name
[07:25] <Muzik83> that -L but lower case
[07:25] <carthik> !paste
[07:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:25] <carthik> arigold, paste your error there^^
[07:25] <carthik> and let me know, arigold...
[07:25] <bulmer> yellat then do lsmod |grep ipw  to see if its driver is loaded
[07:26] <varsendaggr> how do i export a calender from evolution?
[07:26] <pavs> I was following a Howto and somehow made a shorcut (link to) of a folder inside a folder ie /var/www/www/www everytime I click on www folder there is a shorcut of www inside the folder, not sure what I did . How do I remove it (not the folder but the link)
[07:26] <cables> pavs, delete the link?
[07:26] <Muzik83> pavs: if you go in var, and do an ls -l ...does www show you its a link to www?  If so, just rm www from inside var should work
[07:27] <arigold> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrorscarthik - ok. Is there a known FAST mirror?
[07:27] <yellat> bulmer ipw2200 and ieee80211 show up
[07:27] <carthik> arigold, no
[07:27] <yellat> in the lsmod |grep ipw
[07:27] <carthik> pavs, just open the dir up in nautilus, and delete the link.
[07:28] <carthik> pavs, or in a terminal, browse to the dir with the link and say $rm <linkname>
[07:28] <pavs> lrwxrwxrwx 1 pavs root         8 2007-02-17 22:28 www -> /var/www
[07:28] <bulmer> yellat its a good sign, the driver is loaded, next, iwconfig  should show which wireless card it detects
[07:28] <arigold> when I used to download knoppix from the german servers, for some reason, I ALWAYS maintained 250 to 230 KB transfer rates.. other always throttled down to 100 KB quickly.. never figured out why
[07:28] <pavs> I shold just delete it?
[07:28] <yellat> muzik83 whos to non free and one restricted
[07:28] <pavs> ok
[07:28] <arigold> be back in a few
[07:29] <Openix> TomHung: Find the broken package in synaptic then right click and see what it depends on the check you have all these installed
[07:29] <carthik> pavs, yeah
[07:29] <cryosphere> someone please give me the quick and dirty intro to syslog
[07:29] <pavs> thanks guys
[07:29] <yellat> bulmer the iwconfig doesn't give any sign that it has it working properly though
[07:30] <TomHung> Openix: i can't install anything.. it tries to finish that package
[07:30] <bulmer> yellat: whats shows up inside  /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[07:30] <arigold> carthik - what do I download to do this update?I am running 6.06 which is .. called?
[07:30] <estupendocero> what's a good way to transfer files between a windows box and ubuntu on the same LAN without enabling sharing on the windows box?
[07:30] <arigold> I am in /dists
[07:30] <Openix> TomHung: Ah - drat
[07:30] <Muzik83> yellat: oen thing, have you tried rebooting the computer?  If i am connected to wireless at home, and i drive to school without disconnecting, i cant connect at all to school until i reboot (or remove all the modules and re-insert them... rebooting is easier!).  Before restarting, try the other suggestions (consider it a last-ditch try)
[07:31] <estupendocero> Before you ask, I agree that it is dumb not to just enable sharing
[07:31] <cyris> estupendocero: use ftp
[07:31] <carthik> arigold, which is called Dapper Drake. lsb_release -a is the command you can use to find out your release name etc.... or $cat /etc/issue
[07:31] <Muzik83> estupendocero: use ftp, or if you have openssh-server on your linux machine, use a program called WinSCP
[07:31] <yellat> bulmer auto l0;iface eth0;auto eth1;eth2;ath0;wlan0;eth 0
[07:31] <yellat> muzik83 i tried retarting
[07:32] <estupendocero> Muzik83, cyris, thanks - what's a good, slim ftp server? I looked at ftpd, but it's more powerful than I need or want
[07:32] <Muzik83> ok scratch that then :p
[07:32] <Frogzoo> estupendocero: use ftp - but what's wrong with enabling sharing & samba?
[07:32] <pavs> how do you execute an .sh file?
[07:32] <estupendocero> Muzik83, I'll try winscp, thanks
[07:32] <gerald> ##c
[07:32] <estupendocero> Frogzoo, my roommate is on crack :)
[07:33] <Openix> TomHung: apt-get --purge remove
[07:33] <cyris> pavs: i think sh ./script ?
[07:33] <Muzik83> pavs ./script.sh
[07:33] <pavs> ./ftpd_ui.sh
[07:33] <pavs> ./ftpd_ui.sh: Permission denied
[07:33] <cyris> chmod +x
[07:33] <Muzik83> pavs: chmod u+x ftpd_ui.sh
[07:33] <Openix> TomHung: followed by package name
[07:33] <estupendocero> okay, thanks everyone
[07:34] <bulmer> yellat: your iwconfig does not indicate which interface it uses for wireless? or was it eth1 ?
[07:34] <yellat> eth1
[07:34] <yellat> bulmer eth1
[07:34] <cyris> yellat whats up ?
[07:34] <TomHung> Openix: still breaks....
[07:34] <bulmer> yellat then if you do iwlist eth1 scan  you can detect AP ?
[07:34] <pavs> thanks whats the function of chmod?
[07:34] <yellat> yes, i can about 28 of them
[07:34] <yellat> bulmer 28 aps
[07:35] <cyris> pavs: to change permissions on files
[07:35] <pavs> tnx
[07:35] <yellat> cryis wireless fun
[07:35] <Muzik83> yellat: what does this do.... iwconfig eth1 essid "Your SSID" key 0000000000 ....where 0000000 is your key if you have one, or omit key and the zeros if you havea n open network
[07:35] <cyris> yellat, wpa?
[07:35] <elyon225> pavs: It changes the permissions of files.  Check 'man chmod' or 'chmod --help'
[07:35] <bulmer> yellat then which is the one is yours? connect to yours and not someone else AP
[07:35] <pavs> ok eylon255 :)
[07:35] <murdoc> Anyone know how I can change my meta key?
[07:35] <yellat> cryis wpa
[07:35] <TomHung> Openix:  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[07:35] <Muzik83> yellat: that key thing doesnt work wtih wpa, scratch that idea
[07:35] <Openix> TomHung: You could try downloading the deb file from the ubuntu repository site and issue a dpkg -i <filename>
[07:36] <TomHung> humm
[07:36] <bulmer> yellat your AP is enabled for WPA ?
[07:36] <yellat> muzik83 wasn't sure on that
[07:36] <arigold> carthik - thanks for the name info. OK, I am in the /dists/dapper-updates and I am trying to figure out if I am to go into /universe ?
[07:36] <yellat> bulmer yes
[07:36] <pavs> man I spend more time with ubuntu that I do with my girlfriend, man this is bad... :)
[07:36] <yellat> bulmer works with several computers and a wii
[07:36] <elyon225> pavs: That will pass... I'm so bored right now :)
[07:36] <macd> Openix, he should use aptitude or dpkg (force) <shudder>
[07:36] <bulmer> yellat before you do this advance stuff..try turning off WPA so at least you can get your client to connect okay?
[07:36] <arigold> or bigger files seem to be in /dapper/universe
[07:36] <carthik> arigold, what are you upto?
[07:37] <carthik> arigold, in simple terms, explain what you want to do...
[07:37] <yellat> bulmer one sec to try that
[07:37] <cyris> yellat: install wpasupplicant and network-manager-gnome, un-comment all network devices in /etc/network/interfaces except loop back and restart
[07:37] <cyris> yellat: you should be good to go then
[07:37] <TomHung> Openix: you got a link to the reposite?
[07:37] <arigold> I am trying to grab the updates from a different server than the Software Updates widget.. it seems to want to grab them from  91.189.89.182 80
[07:38] <bulmer> yellat maybe try cyris suggestion, i dont do WPA ..but i can assist without the secure stuff
[07:38] <arigold> which is telling me failed to fetch
[07:38] <Flannel> arigold: you'll need to change your sources.list
[07:38] <murdoc> How  can I make my meta the alt key?
[07:38] <arigold> lol - ok ..
[07:38] <Flannel> arigold: oh, if it failed, you sure there's a repos there?
[07:38] <cyris> bulmer: sorry i didnt mean to jump on your help, i just got wpa going like 2mins ago with those instructions
[07:38] <Muzik83> yellat: ya i dont do wpa yet either, actually my access point at home has the ssid "FREE WIFI"
[07:38] <arigold> no, I am not sure... where is there?
[07:38] <pavs> in three weeks ever since I installed ubuntu I learned how to configure SSH, configure apache, install and configure FTP , assign domain to a dynamic ip address to make my pc a server. installed wiki onit . not bad :)
[07:38] <bulmer> cyris why do you suggest to uncomment all the interfaces in the /etc/network/interfaces except lo ?
[07:39] <Openix> TomHung: give me a min
[07:39] <FantasticFoo> how can i take a delayed screenshot -other- than gnome-panel-screenshot
[07:39] <Muzik83> pavs: isnt it fun? ^^
[07:39] <pavs> next installing DNS and learn how to configure firewall
[07:39] <cyris> bulmer: network-manager didn't seem to work for me if i didnt
[07:39] <bulmer> cyris: i may have read that wrong..uncomment means do enable you meant right?
[07:39] <carthik> arigold, open the file /etc/apt/sources.list - that is where the sources are listed
[07:39] <Flannel> arigold: oh.  sorry.  I misread your original statement.  What mirror are you currently using?
[07:39] <bulmer> to*
[07:39] <TomHung> Openix: i downloaded it, and dpkg -i it and still same
[07:39] <cyris> bulmer: naa, uncomment them #
[07:39] <pavs> muzik its awesome never had so much fun in windows, in windows everything was way too easy, I needed a challenege
[07:40] <carthik> arigold - and then you will see the urls which can be replaced if you like.
[07:40] <bulmer> cyris in linux uncomment means remove those # signs
[07:40] <cyris> pavs: heh windows is plently of WORK for me
[07:40] <cyris> bulmer: ah!! your right, sorry tired :S
[07:40] <Openix> TomHung: damn
[07:40] <arigold> carthik - I was using the default<?> of software update - which is pointed to  91.189.89.182 80
[07:40] <cyris> comment out those interfaces and reboot :S
[07:41] <Openix> TomHung: I suggest ubuntuforums.org
[07:41] <Pie-rate> so did a recent update break wifi? i wasn't able to read slashdot in cs 311 because my laptop's wifi didn't work
[07:41] <bulmer> cyris: ahh okay, thats more like it..removing the interface definitions seems not right at first..
[07:41] <arigold> carthik - but I also was looking over the url that you gave to me.. which lead me to a close server for download.. but I guess I have to change sources?
[07:41] <arigold> carthik - I will try and edit sources.. be right back
[07:41] <carthik> arigold, after you change the urls, run apt-get update once.
[07:42] <carthik> arigold- $sudo apt-get update
[07:42] <FantasticFoo> i want to take a screenshot of what happens when i put my mouse over something, and somehow gnome-panel-screenshot messes it up
[07:42] <cyris> buler: sorry about that hah, well give that a go and let me know how it goes. WPA was a pain to get going a few months ago, but i got it going with one google and 2mins of my time.
[07:42] <pavs> cyris with windows I reached a point that there was not much challenge left for me. Other than security ofcourse. But than IMO anyone with half brain can secure their windows system if they want to. Just dont go online
[07:42] <FantasticFoo> is there like a key combo to take a screenshot in gnome?
[07:43] <cyris> pavs: dont go online? everything i do is online :D
[07:43] <bulmer> cyris what is the link to that tutorial to enable WPA?
[07:43] <iamtheric> yeah
[07:43] <iamtheric> printscrn
[07:43] <Muzik83> FantasticFoo: print screen button
[07:43] <FantasticFoo> wtH
[07:43] <cyris> http://www.itlabs.umn.edu/help/network/wireless-linux-wpa.php
[07:43] <FantasticFoo> i tried it and it still messes the screenshot up
[07:43] <pavs> This is my first time with linux after 5 years. Onlye reason I stopped linux five years ago after using it for 2 weeks was because I thought KDE was mad ugly :)
[07:43] <FantasticFoo> what other screenshot commands are there
[07:43] <bulmer> okay thanks cyris
[07:43] <Muzik83> FantasticFoo: what are you trying to screenshot?
[07:44] <cyris> pavs: well you have choice
[07:44] <emark2k> I am hoping for some basic direction, and willing to look for the deeper details...but don't know where to begin with a wireless question too... I installed Ubuntu yesterday on a laptop with no ethernet or wifi card on the mobo or in the PC card slots.  ( It looks beautiful BTW, my first ) I bought a WIFI card today and put it in...it isn't recognized but I didn't install any networking software during the install.  So, should I t
[07:44] <Frogzoo> pavs: 5 yrs ago, desktop wasn't a priority
[07:44] <FantasticFoo> Muzik83: what happens when i mouse-over something
[07:44] <dewey> good day mates
[07:44] <iamtheric> see ya
[07:45] <pavs> well I am glad it looks better now, even KDE
[07:45] <FantasticFoo> dammit! i keep getting these messages from firefox saying "firefox is already running, but not responding, please restart"
[07:45] <FantasticFoo> its soo annoying
[07:45] <MindControl84> thats why it can be made nicer ..since we have a lot more power then 5 years ago :)
[07:45] <cyris> emark2k: well, id first check to see if modules haves been loaded for your card
[07:45] <cyris> emark2k: what kind of card is it?
[07:45] <yellat> bulmer i'm tried using it without wpa/wep/etc doens't work now either, does show up on the router
[07:46] <yellat> bulmer the sid is properly detected, router gives it an ip
[07:46] <bulmer> yellat: it shows up on the router as a client connected?
[07:46] <Muzik83> FantasticFoo: not sure on the mouse screenshots, sorry
[07:46] <yellat> bulmer router doesn't give that much info
[07:46] <emark2k> Cyris:  I typed the "iwconfig" and said "no wireless extensions after "lo" and "sit0"
[07:46] <emark2k> Card is a Zyxel ZyAir G-102
[07:47] <arigold> carthik - do I need to touch the file?
[07:47] <pavs> I stopped using wep because of the same reason it doesnt work somehow
[07:47] <arigold> carthik - sources.list ?
[07:47] <Openix> TomHung: This may sound stupid but have you done a reboot?
[07:47] <cyris> yellat: ifconfig, check what info your receiving from the router.
[07:47] <yellat> bulmer router has assigned it an ip on its end, the iwconfig doesn't list an ip
[07:47] <bulmer> yellat: your router has a DHCPD right? it doles out ip addresses
[07:47] <yellat> ya, it does
[07:47] <yellat> one second, cops
[07:48] <TomHung> Openix: i'll try it...
[07:48] <cyris> emark2k: read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsZyxel
[07:49] <cyris> emark2k: looks like your card should be working out of the box no?
[07:49] <Kemi> ALLO
[07:49] <SoulinEther> hey
[07:49] <cyris> yellat: did you install network-manager-gnome?
[07:49] <pbureau> Evening everyone
[07:50] <SoulinEther> anybody know what I should do to install my new DVD rom drive ?
[07:50] <arigold> carthik - it is still failing... and I checked to see if the url was up and running... still says Failed .. failed to fetch
[07:50] <pavs> any second coice other than vsftp guys?
[07:50] <yellat> cryis it has no networking/internet till this works
[07:50] <SoulinEther> so that it is recognized or automounted, whatever i need?
[07:50] <arigold> carthik - wait - it shows failed to fetch because the changes I see from a cat command are not being used..
[07:50] <yellat> bulmer it has an ip, seems to be different then what the router thinks
[07:50] <cyris> yellat: wire the box in then ?
[07:50] <emark2k> Cyris:  I had seen that, and hoped it would.  I didn't install any Networking options yesterday as didn't have any and didn't want it to get hung up looking for a connection...it is an old laptop w/o ethernet built in...  I should probably just rerun the installation CD??  Or can I just run that segment of the installer?
[07:50] <arigold> I ## the default values and replaced them with a working server.. but the software update wants to use the old...
[07:51] <yellat> bulmer, nevermind, is the one it thinks it is, some one else connected to the network allready
[07:51] <bulmer> yellat then its not getting it from your AP, maybe from a neighboring AP
[07:51] <bulmer> yellat next is to check  netstat -ran result if the gateway is correct
[07:52] <cyris> emark2k: yeah you could de a reinstall
[07:52] <cyris> do
[07:52] <simpla> Hi
[07:52] <Openix> TomHung: Try this too,  dpkg remove force-depends force-remove-reinstreq <package name>
[07:52] <yellat> bulmer, checked the /etc/network/interfaces had a bit of gunk in there from an eariler try, found junk in eth1, deleted it, works without encrption
[07:53] <cyris> yellat: so now go grab that network-manager-gnome
[07:53] <emark2k> Cyris:   will give it a shot... Many Thanks.
[07:53] <bulmer> yellat: okay you are on your way..I dont know much about WPA..
[07:53] <cyris> emark2k: no prob
[07:54] <yellat> cryis you got wpa to work you said correct?
[07:55] <ugNexus> anyone here speak spanish ?
[07:55] <ugNexus> alguien ahbla espaol ?
[07:55] <cyris> yellat: yup
[07:55] <pavs> what do you guys think about pureftp?
[07:55] <SoulinEther> pavs: what about it? Lol
[07:55] <yellat> cryis do you have a link to that tutorial?
[07:55] <MindControl84> try #ubuntu-es ugNexus
[07:56] <pavs> compare to vsftp?
[07:56] <cyris> yellat: http://www.itlabs.umn.edu/help/network/wireless-linux-wpa.php
[07:56] <SoulinEther> pavs: nah, never tried it. I'm a fan of vsftp for now :P
[07:56] <lgc> ugNexus, s, pero si hablas espaol aqu, te vetan.
[07:56] <arigold> carthik - are you there? I am trying to update the sources.list file and when I rerun the software update, it claims.. could not download all repsository indexes. No longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems.
[07:56] <SoulinEther> what does vetan mean? :P
[07:56] <mackinac> !es
[07:56] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:56] <ugNexus> hazme query porfavor
[07:57] <cyris> pavs: i found vsftp easy to admin, havent used pureftp in a while.
[07:57] <cyris> pavs: but beyond that, no idea.
[07:57] <lgc> SoulinEther, vetar =~ to oust
[07:57] <SoulinEther> ah, i see
[07:57] <cyris> pavs: ftp is old, sftp would be the better choice, thats if you have open-ssh installed
[07:57] <pavs> i have openssh installed
[07:58] <arigold> ok - anyone know what I cannot get dapper to update once freshly installed on a thinkpad? I am writing from the new install shell / irc... so I know that the network is running
[07:58] <ugNexus> te envie un query <lgc>... me lees ?
[07:58] <cyris> pavs: and like someone said earlier to you, winscp is a good file transfering client for windows.
[07:58] <tovella> I know it's late (here in New York City, anyway), and there may not be many people online on a Saturday night (early Sunday morning), but I've been searching for weeks for a solution to this problem:
[07:58] <tovella> I set up a computer (for my 7yr old Godson) using Ubuntu and some educational software.  His older brothers use the same computer, and usually forget to logout after looking at adult material.  Does anyone have any ideas about a way to implement an "auto-logout" feature for x-sessions?
[07:58] <sethk> arigold, haven't seen anything like that on my thinkpad
[07:58] <pavs> windows....?
[07:58] <cyris> pavs: then go get winscp for windows and connect :D
[07:58] <lgc> ugNexus, let me log in (I always forget how...).
[07:58] <sethk> tovella, easiest way is to set up a screen saver and turn on password protection for it
[07:58] <pavs> I dont use windows anymore...
[07:58] <SoulinEther> tovella, I dunno what to say
[07:59] <arigold> sethk - what version of ubuntu did you install?
[07:59] <cyris> pavs: my bad, wrong person :S
[07:59] <pavs> three comp with ubuntu installed
[07:59] <cyris> pavs: man im tired haha
[07:59] <SoulinEther> tovella : that is a horrible situation though
[07:59] <pavs> :) no prob
[07:59] <sethk> arigold, originally?  I forget, it was about a year ago
[07:59] <SoulinEther> tovella: screensaver with password is one option for sure
[07:59] <lgc> How do I log in? "/msg nickserv what?
[07:59] <Muzik83> arigold: if you have one repository which is temporarily down in your sources.list, it will cause that error..  Usually I ignore it, and when the repo comes back up its gone (you just wont have access to the packages from that repo after that error)
[07:59] <sethk> lgc, identify
[07:59] <tovella> sethk: I tried the screen lock thing, but then my Godson can't login without his brother's passwords.
[08:00] <lgc> sethk, and then the password?
[08:00] <pavs> tovella if it makes you feel better I am in NYC :)
[08:00] <sethk> lgc, I believe so.  freenode has help for irc commands
[08:00] <arigold> sethk - what is the result of these commands on your machine - lsb_release -a
[08:00] <arigold> sethk - and uname -ar
[08:00] <sethk> arigold, hang on
[08:00] <tovella> pavs: we have more than one thing in common.
[08:00] <sethk> arigold, the kernel I know, I'm running 2.6.18
[08:00] <pavs> you bet :)
[08:00] <cyris> tovella: you could have it auto shut-down..
[08:01] <SoulinEther> cyris has a good point.
[08:01] <SpAwN> tovella, use the screen saver...then have your god son use ctrl alt  backpsace to close the session so he can log in
[08:01] <Muzik83> tovella: what about a second screen, and switching using ctrl+alt+f8 to get to it, do you know anything about this way?
[08:01] <sethk> pavs, I'm in new york also, but why would that make anyone feel better?
[08:01] <tovella> cyris: yes, that would work.
[08:01] <tovella> Sp
[08:01] <sethk> arigold, it's at work, I can't tell you that until monday, sorry.
[08:01] <silya> Hi all! Howto get access trough vnc to my desktop? When I launch tighvncserver he creates session on host:1, but I need direct access to current X session
[08:01] <sethk> tovella, it would be fairly easy to create a process that kills the X server
[08:01] <arigold> sethk - ok, thanks..
[08:02] <tovella> SpAwN: that might work too.
[08:02] <sethk> tovella, if you kill the X server and gdm, then it goes back to the login screen after auto-restarting
[08:02] <Muzik83> silya: try x11vnc -passwd $1 -display :0
[08:02] <Muzik83> er
[08:02] <cyris> tovella: you may be able to pull something like that if you where using acpi.
[08:02] <Muzik83> silya: try x11vnc -passwd APasswordHere -display :0
[08:02] <jwtod1> anyone know how to bring up the ui config editor?
[08:02] <SoulinEther> tovella: try a whip on those older brothers :P
[08:02] <SpAwN> tovella, that way he can get to the login screen without seeing anything you dont want him too.....
[08:02] <pavs> he said I know it's late (here in New York City, anyway), and there may not be many people online on a Saturday night (early Sunday morning),  That why I said that as a joke :)
[08:02] <arigold> anyone know how to alter the server designation for sources.list without software update giving a could not download all respository indexes?
[08:03] <ytoox> hi, how do you apply a diff patch?
[08:03] <jwtod1> running gnome and would like to tweak the splash screen.
[08:03] <tovella> SoulinEther: I've tried that, but now they are bigger than me...  They might just kick my @%#$%$.
[08:03] <Muzik83> arigold: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ...place a # in front of anything you dont want it to use
[08:03] <yellat> cryis okay, evidently i need to install the network-manager-gnome, not sure if apget works on here either, it does have net
[08:03] <silya> "A VNC server is already running as :0" - but I have not access to this session
[08:04] <SoulinEther> tovella: then i'm fresh out of ideas, sorry, heh
[08:04] <sapage> !mtool
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <arigold> Muzik83 - did so.. wonder if I need to open a specific unique port on the firewall for software update
[08:04] <Muzik83> silya: you need to do that as the same user who is logged into the desktop, is that whats wrong?
[08:04] <tovella> SpAwN: I think that may a really good solution CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[08:05] <Muzik83> arigold: nope updates are just like surfin the web... are none of your repositories working?
[08:05] <dyrne> silya: su - username -c "vncserver -kill :0"
[08:05] <arigold> muzik - correct...
[08:05] <SpAwN> tovella, would be easy for him to rember......wont realy mess anything up.... its what i would probly do
[08:05] <cyris> tovella: i think theres a program called autologout
[08:05] <arigold> none - meaning the one that was default on the distro 6.06 and one that I surfed directly to in Canada
[08:05] <Gunny> Evening
[08:05] <Gunny> Everytime I try and run apt
[08:06] <ytoox> hi, how do you apply a diff patch?
[08:06] <Gunny> I get the following error
[08:06] <Gunny> "E: The package sun-java5-bin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[08:06] <Gunny> Anyone seen this before?
[08:06] <Macintork> a
[08:06] <Macintork> sdf
[08:06] <Macintork> s
[08:06] <Macintork> sf
[08:06] <Macintork> fds
[08:06] <Macintork> fsdaf
[08:06] <Macintork> sd
[08:06] <Macintork> fsd
[08:06] <SpAwN> Gunny, maby try remobing it
[08:06] <Macintork> fs
[08:06] <Macintork> f
[08:06] <Macintork> saf
[08:06] <Macintork> sadfsa
[08:06] <cyris> yellat: you should be good to go now if you on the net, apt-get should work fine
[08:06] <Macintork> f
[08:06] <Macintork> saf
[08:06] <SpAwN> lol
[08:06] <Macintork> sad
[08:06] <Macintork> fas
[08:06] <Macintork> dfas
[08:06] <timthelion> anyone know of a program good for matrix manipulation in mathematics?
[08:06] <SpAwN> nice flood.
[08:06] <Macintork> f
[08:06] <Macintork> sadf
[08:06] <Gunny> remobing?
[08:06] <Macintork> sad
[08:06] <Macintork> fas
[08:06] <Macintork> df
[08:06] <Macintork> sdaf
[08:06] <Macintork> as
[08:07] <Macintork> f
[08:07] <Macintork> asf
[08:07] <SpAwN> HAHA
[08:07] <cyris> :P
[08:07] <Gunny> Geeze
[08:07] <arigold> :P
[08:07] <SpAwN> dumbass flooded himself off
[08:07] <JohnM> Lol
[08:07] <arigold> lemming
[08:07] <Muzik83> apparently Macintork got his keyboard working lol
[08:07] <Frogzoo> timthelion: apt-get search matrix
[08:07] <Openix> obviously having trouble remembering shuttleworth irc alias
[08:07] <SpAwN> man last 2 days ive seen 10x more spam
[08:07] <Gunny> Spawn: what do you mean by remobing?
[08:07] <arigold> spawn - me too
[08:07] <tovella> cyris: couldn't find a program called autologout, but I think the idea of CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE could work just find - until something else comes about.
[08:07] <timthelion> Frogzoo that didn't give me anything usefull
[08:07] <Muzik83> arigold: not sure why *none* of them would be working... they go through http, so you shouldnt have to do anything on the firewall side
[08:08] <JohnM> I heard he's been causing trouble in other linux channels as well.
[08:08] <SpAwN> Gunny, oh sorry removing......
[08:08] <arigold> Muzik - did you have to alter this yourself? Is this an unusual edit or a regular change?
[08:08] <Gunny> Ahh
[08:08] <Gunny> When I try to remove it
[08:08] <Gunny> I get the same error :P
[08:09] <yellat> cryis tried "sudo apt-get network_manager_gnome" gives e: invalid operation...
[08:09] <Muzik83> tovella: what abou tteaching the older boys how to do "switch user" rather than logging the current session out... then ctrl+alt+f7 is your first login session, ctrl alt f8 is your second, and so on... then just put a screensave/password lock on the "adult oriented" session
[08:09] <Muzik83> tovella: then your godson can do ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to his session (or f8 or wherever he was(
[08:09] <arigold> Muzik - it wants to get it from us.archive.ubuntu.com and the one I inserted ubuntu.mirror.rafal.ca
[08:09] <cyris> tovella: http://masand.sourceforge.net/
[08:10] <jwtod1> anyone know the command for the ui gnome config editor? vs cmd line gconftool-2?
[08:10] <Muzik83> arigold: mines a custom sources.list... im in canada too, just checked and all was well.. and it always goes through http (it may go through ftp sometimes too, not 100% sure)
[08:10] <cyris> tovella: well maybe :S haha
[08:10] <cyris> yellat: apt-get install
[08:10] <arigold> Muzik - I think ftp is designated by the URl prefix..anyway...
[08:10] <cyris> yellat: apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[08:11] <`sam`> this xchat sucks...
[08:11] <tovella> cyris: I was able to "autologout" from a shell, by changing adding a setting in /etc/profile ... I'll look at the website you provided, thanks.
[08:11] <SpAwN> xchat ftw!
[08:11] <cyris> tovella: np
[08:11] <arigold> good night. everyone..
[08:11] <Muzik83> `sam`: im using irssi, so no complaints from you! :p
[08:11] <yellat> cryis can't find the package
[08:11] <timthelion> yes, but I, I use zenirc on emacs
[08:12] <`sam`> ftw?
[08:12] <timthelion> for the win
[08:12] <cyris> yellat: edit your sources and enable universe ect.
[08:12] <SpAwN> `sam`, for the win...its a gaming term.
[08:13] <cyris> yellat: im not sure what list the package was on, i can post you my sources file if you want.
[08:13] <lgc> Does anyone know how to invoke the options list on Firefox?
[08:13] <phatrabbit> if i just format the Drive that ubuntu was on will that uninstall it properly ?
[08:14] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> Any way to change permissions on a file system from Nautilus or Pysdu in 6.10.
[08:14] <Rob59-Cinti-OH> The permission choices are all greyed out.
[08:14] <Muzik83> lgc: "options list" as in the about:config list?
[08:14] <zoli2k> lgc: about:config
[08:14] <tovella> wow, i can't believe how many great responses i got on a late saturday night (no responses during the daytime).  ... you guys (and gals) are great. thanks so much.
[08:14] <solid_liquid> what's the name of the next version of ubuntu again?
[08:14] <pavs> whats the command to show a list opf processes (not TOP)
[08:14] <zoli2k> lgc: just open this URL
[08:14] <lgc> Muzik83, zoli2k , thanks!
[08:14] <Muzik83> pavs: ps -ef
[08:14] <cyris> tovella: i hope that /etc/profile crap works out for ya
[08:14] <pavs> tnx
[08:15] <phatrabbit> Ubuntu feisty
[08:15] <Muzik83> pavs or -aux
[08:15] <solid_liquid> phatrabbit: thanks!
[08:15] <tovella> cyris: id didn't. ...only worked for terminal sessions.
[08:16] <pavs> like ps -aux better :)
[08:16] <phatrabbit> if i just format the Drive that ubuntu was on will that uninstall it properly ?
[08:16] <cyris> tovella: hrm, well you may need to script something to check if the xsession has been idled for x amount of time, then kill it or something along those lines...
[08:16] <yellat> bulmer cryis thanks for the help, i think i may have it now
[08:16] <macd> such a script would be pretty trivial
[08:16] <Muzik83> phatrabbit: nothing lives through a reformat (unless you got law inforcement after you), so yes, that would get rid of everything
[08:17] <phatrabbit> ok ta
[08:17] <cyris> yellat: no prob man
[08:18] <bulmer> yellat: okay good luck
[08:18] <phatrabbit> Muzik83: thats not entirely true :)  you can recover from a format, but thanks i am gonna get rid of dapper 6.06 and put on 6.10
[08:18] <Muzik83> true true
[08:18] <tovella> cyris: that's what i was trying to do.  I did something like this, (and added it to /etc/crontab), but i'm not learned enough to get it to work properly: if(/dev/event0 && /dev/event1 && /dev/mice && /dev/mouse0 == inactive 600s)
[08:18] <tovella> logout
[08:18] <Muzik83> "Without specialized tools for recovering data, formatting erases everythign" ... i stand corrected!
[08:20] <cyris> tovella: im not a great scripter,  id post in the ubuntu forums :S
[08:20] <tovella> anyway, thank you all so much.  I think CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is what I'll have to teach him how to do.
[08:21] <Gunny> E: The package sun-java5-bin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[08:21] <ardchoille> betatux: Please disable that script in this channel.
[08:21] <Gunny> Anyone?
[08:22] <betatux> ardchoille, yes it was by accident :) , just installed it and wanted a test
[08:22] <ardchoille> betatux: Ah, ok :)
[08:22] <Muzik83> Gunny: you need to add a repository to your sources.list which has that in it... i have it in mine, you can have a copy of my sources.list if you want (since im not sure which repository it is in)
[08:22] <betatux> ardchoille, i can't even understand the language lol
[08:23] <Gunny> Muz: Sure, can you e-mail or post it to me?
[08:23] <Gunny> Gunny@Gunny.org
[08:23] <cyris> Gunny: use automatix to install sun java
[08:23] <Gunny> ?
[08:23] <cyris> gunny: its really easy with that application.
[08:23] <Gunny> How?
[08:23] <cyris> gunny: http://www.getautomatix.com/
[08:23] <Flannel> Gunny: dont use automatix, it's real easy to install manually
[08:24] <Flannel> cyris, please don't recommend automatix.
[08:24] <tovella> ardchoille: I installed sun-java5-plugin, and it automatically installed the sun-java5-bin.
[08:24] <Muzik83> Gunny: http://www.pastebin.ca/361613
[08:24] <ardchoille> !automatix | Gunny
[08:24] <ubotu> Gunny: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:24] <Gunny> Cyris: I'm running Ubuntu Server
[08:24] <Gunny> I don't have a gui :P
[08:24] <Muzik83> Gunny: its a real messay sources.list, so back yours up first
[08:24] <ardchoille> cyris: Please do not recommend automatix in this channel.
[08:24] <Flannel> !java | Gunny
[08:24] <ubotu> Gunny: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:24] <cyris> sorry everyone, didnt know it was such a big issue
[08:24] <Muzik83> Gunny: or do what ubotu just said :p
[08:24] <cyris> well, you dont have a gui, so that wouldn't work out then.
[08:25] <Gunny> Thanks for the suggestion though cyris
[08:25] <Flannel> cyris: everything that breaks operating systems is an issue ;)
[08:26] <lgc> Muzik83, zoli2k, how do I modify the path to Java on Firefox?
[08:26] <cyris> Flannel: misconfiguration by users breaks operating systems, i havent had a single issue with automatix
[08:26] <cyris> Flannel: but whatever
[08:26] <Flannel> !worksforme | cyris
[08:26] <ubotu> cyris: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:26] <tovella> ardchoille: i have the "restricted", "multiverse", and "backports" repositories enabled...  not sure which one is required for sun-java5.
[08:26] <cyris> ubotu: what are you talking about ? hah.
[08:27] <ardchoille> tovella: I don't know anything about java, never used it.
[08:27] <Flannel> cyris: it breaks a good deal of systems immediately, and even more during upgrades.  Just because you've dodged the bullet doesn't make it safe
[08:27] <Gunny> I just uncommented the restricted repo from my sources.list
[08:27] <Gunny> updating, maybe that'll help
[08:27] <Flannel> Gunny: java is in multiverse, not restricted
[08:27] <jwtod1> i installed java via synaptic fine
[08:27] <Gunny> ahh, k
[08:28] <Muzik83> ah
[08:28] <jwtod1> if u just want the runtime go w/ the jre. if u want to dev (ie compile) u need the jdk
[08:28] <cyris> Flannel: im not going to debate this with you cause i simply dont care.
[08:28] <Gunny> My aim is as much stability as possible, so I didn't wanna add repos that could break the system
[08:28] <lgc> Muzik83, zoli2k, how do I modify the path to Java on Firefox?
[08:28] <Flannel> Gunny: multiverse won't break your system, it's still an official repository
[08:28] <roby_tj> hgtyyyy
[08:29] <zoli2k> lgc: You can link the java plugin in to the mozilla plugin directory
[08:29] <Muzik83> lgc: not sure, i'd modify my whole path... export PATH=/path/to/java/bin:$PATH then run firefox
[08:29] <ardchoille> Flannel: Are universe and backports also "official"?
[08:29] <tovella> ardchoille: sorry , that message should have been addressed to Gunny.
[08:29] <Muzik83> lgc: but thats not the right answer probably
[08:29] <tovella> Gunny: I installed sun-java5-plugin, and it automatically installed the sun-java5-bin.
[08:29] <rpc> does anyone use SATA drive on VIA powered mobo with success? mine is pretty slow, like 4MB/s max
[08:30] <zoli2k> lgc:  ln -s <path-to-  javaplugin_oji.so >  ~/.mozilla/plugins/  ,
[08:30] <zoli2k> lgc: or: # ln -s <path-to-java-plugin> /opt/firefox/plugins/
[08:30] <zoli2k> lgc: globally
[08:30] <tempubun> hi all
[08:30] <berom> hi
[08:30] <tempubun> is there a #ubuntu-ppc channel?
[08:30] <tovella> rpc: wishing i could afford a mobo with SATA. : )
[08:30] <ingrix> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:31] <ingrix> tempubun, go there
[08:31] <tempubun> ingrix: ta
[08:31] <lgc> Muzik83, zoli2k, isn't there a way to do it from within Firefox?
[08:31] <Gunny> k
[08:31] <Gunny> That fixed it :D
[08:31] <rpc> tovella one day you will :) and then you stay away from VIA powered boards :)
[08:31] <bwilson> How can I restart my network connectin through terminal?
[08:31] <lgc> Muzik83, zoli2k, (that's why I asked about "about:config").
[08:31] <Muzik83> bwilson: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[08:31] <cyris> bwilson: /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[08:31] <Flannel> ardchoille: of course universe is.  backports is also, I believe.  If it's not, it's more of a "pseudo official", it's hosted by the official mirrors.
[08:31] <Muzik83> bwilson: where eth0 is your network interface you want to restart
[08:32] <tovella> rpc: agreed... i have 4 of them, and they all disappoint me.
[08:32] <zoli2k> lgc: if you installed java via the package system the should be everything ok.
[08:32] <ardchoille> Flannel: Ah, ok.
[08:32] <rpc> tovella this nice sata 300 giger acts like an 10 years old disk
[08:33] <rpc> tovella slow as hell and i don't know what is wrong
[08:33] <zoli2k> lgc: See the non-official ubuntu guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_J2SE_Runtime_Environment_.28JRE.29_v5.0_with_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[08:33] <jwtod1> is there a ui equivalent of gconftool-2?
[08:33] <ardchoille> rpc: Does top show anything interesting?
[08:33] <tovella> rpc: i have about 6 pc's but they're all old stuff i found in the garbage.  I use Ubuntu on all of them.
[08:33] <ardchoille> jwtod1: Yes, gconf-editor
[08:33] <tempubun> k, so no ubuntu-ppc
[08:33] <tempubun> k, so no ubuntu-ppc
[08:34] <ingrix> tempubun: it doesn't seem that way
[08:34] <jwtod1> ahh ... thx ardchoille. i'm running now :)
[08:34] <rpc> ardchoille hm quite massive cpu usage when i transfer to a remote ftp backup server and the speed is being very limited because of the drive that can hardly push more than 4MB/s... besides that nothing in top that looks interesting
[08:34] <tempubun> indeed, installed 6.10.ubuntu-ppc on a G3 new world iBook, X wont start
[08:34] <ingrix> tempubun: Is it a desktop or a laptop?
[08:34] <tempubun> laptop
[08:34] <ingrix> Sorry, irrelevant question
[08:35] <rpc> tovella i love free pcs too :)
[08:35] <lgc> zoli2k, thanks.
[08:35] <Muzik83> rpc: whats causing that massive cpu usage?
[08:35] <ingrix> Try channel #ubuntu-laptop
[08:35] <tempubun> k
[08:35] <lgc> Muzik83, thanks, too.
[08:35] <rpc> Muzik83 a simple file transfer - seems like this sata drive sucks up half of my 4600+
[08:35] <ingrix> tempubun: I'm not sure what luck you will have, but you might get something
[08:35] <rpc> Muzik83 it's very slow and it uses tons of cpu when reading/writing
[08:35] <bwilson> Muzik83:  How about for a wireless connection?
[08:36] <zoli2k> rpc: DMA problem ?
[08:36] <tempubun> ingrix: i might, can only try, 8-)
[08:36] <rpc> zoli2k i thought so too.. it acts like dma was off but in sata it's on by default and you can't even control that
[08:36] <beta-> Hello :)
[08:37] <ingrix> tempubun: so what's your problem, anyways?
[08:37] <tovella> rpc: i'm hoping to go back into the world of professional paid PC support, so i can make some money.   I expect to be able to buy a newer PC in the near future.  For now, the best I have is a 1.6GHz P4, with a GB of RAM.  It works well for me.
[08:37] <Muzik83> bwilson: not sure on that, i'd use the /etc/init.d/network that the others suggested which will do everything... you could try ifdown wlan0 (or eth1, or ath0 or whatever your wireless is called)
[08:37] <ingrix> I am not familiar with powerpc, but I might be able to make a couple suggestions
[08:38] <tempubun> ingrix: X won't start, pretty basic, since i am not really familiar with using ppc, is a bit hard to fault find
[08:38] <rpc> tovella where is that garbage with P4s located at? i will be there soon ;)
[08:38] <ingrix> And you got the powerpc image, right?
[08:38] <tempubun> i did
[08:38] <rpc> tovella and yes, paid pc support is good money and always will be
[08:38] <Muzik83> tempubun: what does the output from the attempted xserver say, or do you not even get that blue screen thinger?
[08:38] <zoli2k> rpc: Can you paste the result of "hdparm -tT  /dev/sda" to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[08:39] <rpc> zoli2k i will do that in a second
[08:39] <exeakiel> How would I go about accessing my PSP?
[08:39] <zoli2k> rpc: and also hdparm /dev/sda
[08:39] <tovella> rpc: i've been all over the new york city area, but since loosing my vehicle, things have changed.
[08:39] <tempubun> i get a X server failed set in blue background over the rest of the terminal
[08:39] <tempubun> it doesn't render CLI commands too good either
[08:39] <gortba_> Hi everyone. I'm having trouble playing media off the internet. Is there a quick fix to all of these plugin issues?
[08:39] <Muzik83> tempubun: after that x server failed, you should get a "Press ok to see the xserver output"
[08:39] <exeakiel> All of my PSP's files are locked, and I can't access them in windows.
[08:39] <tempubun> yes, but you have to be lightning quick
[08:40] <zoli2k> rpc: sorry, you need administrator privileges for this, so: sudo hdparm -tT  /dev/sda
[08:40] <Muzik83> tempubun: usually these are xorg.conf file configuration problems (which has been my experience)
[08:40] <tempubun> sounds it, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf atm, seeing what is what, it looks normal
[08:40] <ingrix> gortba_: There is a fix, but it isn't really what I would call quick
[08:40] <ingrix> gortba_: I assume you mean you can't play flash and java and things like that?
[08:41] <tovella> tempubun: i've had some success with PPCs.  there should be an indication of a log file that should give some insight as to why it "x" failed to start.
[08:41] <novice> how to copy the folders to root ??
[08:41] <gortba_> ingrix: Well basic things like songs...
[08:41] <Muzik83> tempubun: what about in the /var/log/Xorg.0
[08:41] <tempubun> tovella: i had a look at /var/log/xorg.0.log
[08:41] <tempubun> it has a huge outpu and nothing stands out but i'll go back in again
[08:41] <rpc> zoli2k i had to use another pastebin as that one tried to tell me that i was spamming... http://www.pastebin.ca/361624
[08:42] <tovella> tempubun: yes, i believe that's the file.
[08:42] <ingrix> gortba_: You mean you can't stream them, yeah?
[08:42] <Muzik83> novice: if you mean root's home directory, sudo cp <filename> ~root/
[08:42] <gortba_> ingrix: Yes
[08:42] <ingrix> gortba_: Well what worked for me was installing gxine and the plugins for it.  I forget what the package name was.  Let me check real quick
[08:43] <ingrix> If you haven't done that, then that might help
[08:43] <novice> I have d\led some apple icons n i wanna put them in /usr/share/pixmaps/appleicons
[08:43] <zoli2k> rpc: can you also paste the "hdparm /dev/sda" result?
[08:43] <rpc> zoli2k what happens is that when i try to cp a file or just upload to a local gigabit ftp the max speed is 4MB/s... this is a modern 300GB SATA drive, and the mobo is microstar (via based)
[08:43] <rpc> zoli2k yes
[08:43] <novice> muzik83: i have already created the folder appleicons but its showing destination missing
[08:44] <tovella> tempubun: look for something that says "warning", or "error".
[08:44] <Muzik83> novice: so this doesnt work: sudo mv appleicons /usr/share/pixmaps/
[08:44] <rpc> zoli2k: http://www.pastebin.ca/361627
[08:44] <ingrix> gortba_: package names are gxine, gxineplugin
[08:44] <rpc> zoli2k i tried to pump readahead up but it only made it slower... wondering about other settings
[08:44] <miyako> hey, I'm trying to sort out a font problem.  I have an application that is failing to find some fonts, they should be installed, but they aren't in the /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/fonts.alias file, and i'm not familiar enough with how the font system works to sort it out, anyone have any ideas?
[08:45] <gortba_> ingrix: Thanks. They in the repo?
[08:45] <novice> muzik83:so wat shld i do now??
[08:45] <ingrix> gortba_: I believe so
[08:45] <Muzik83> novice: you wanted to move that pixmaps thing into the appleicons?  They're there now :p (or they should be, if you didnt get an error)
[08:45] <gortba_> ingrix: great. Thanks a bunch
[08:45] <novice> i tried to use "cp" command
[08:45] <tovella> miyako: what application is it?
[08:46] <ingrix> gortba_: No problem.  If that doesn't work, try getting libxine1 and libxine-extracodecs which I believe are in multiverse
[08:46] <Muzik83> ok
[08:46] <novice> Muzik83: no i wanna to move the icons whch r on my desktop to pixmap folder
[08:46] <ardchoille> novice: If you're using cp to copy an entire folder, you need to use cp -r , or sudo cp -r if you're copying a folder to a system folder.
[08:46] <miyako> tovella: Maya, it's a proprietary application- which makes things more difficult :(
[08:47] <novice> ardchoille:k...... i'll try ....
[08:47] <gortba_> ingrix: sounds good. Thanks again. I'll give it a whril.
[08:47] <tempubun> tovella: got (WW) on a font path & an invalid IO allocation
[08:47] <miyako> I thought that it might be the gtk1.2 font bug, but I resolved that and I'm still having problems
[08:47] <tovella> miyako: i'm somewhat familiar with Maya - NOT really familiar.
[08:48] <RaCarter> how do shut down all firewalls on ubuntu?
[08:48] <miyako> tovella: well, when I load it up, it's having trouble finding the helvetica font family, which means no text in the menus.  The weird thing is, it works under XGL- but I can't just run under XGL because of other weird bugs
[08:48] <rpc> RaCarter iptables -F ?
[08:48] <miyako> I ran into the problem after upgrading to edgy- it wasn't a big deal until recently because I had other projects to work on
[08:48] <zoli2k> rpc, please can you post also the output of "dmesg" ?
[08:49] <rpc> zoli2k yes i will, just one sec
[08:49] <bindaasbhai> hello all !!!
[08:49] <agliv_> Hey all :) I was trying to configure my network settings and network-admin crashed... can anyone help me get it working again?
[08:49] <Beverage> hey guys i typed in "sudo chown -R jon:jon /var/www/" because i was trying to give myself access to /var/www/ anywya now i cant sudo any commands because my permission is denied anyone know what i can do to fix?
[08:49] <tovella> miyako: i don't know how much i might be able to help... i'm playing around with feisty
[08:49] <The_Rebel> hi there.. im a bit of a *nix n00b, and i have a question about compiling my kernel to support my wireless chipset.. rt2571wf
[08:50] <The_Rebel> im compiling 2.6.20 as we speak..
[08:50] <mikelinux> feisty is stable on beta 3
[08:50] <The_Rebel> new to ubuntu aswell
[08:50] <mikelinux> i guess
[08:50] <kristjans> what do those "Failed to open device" errors
[08:50] <zynergi> psh
[08:50] <kristjans> mean in terminal?
[08:50] <bindaasbhai> i am using Kbuntu 6.0 Edgy eft...i am looking generic ADSL USB modem drivers, Can you help please?
[08:50] <zynergi> i could never get wireless working
[08:50] <rempresent> anyone know why 3d acceleration module won't run in wine for WoW?
[08:50] <zynergi> i gave up ;\
[08:50] <miyako> the question is, does upgrading to feisty fix the problems caused by upgrading to edgy, or do I need to do a clean install?
[08:50] <tovella> mikelinux: beta 3 is not out yet.  alpha 4 just came out.
[08:51] <mikelinux> ok
[08:51] <mikelinux> alpha 3
[08:51] <The_Rebel> hey zynergi..
[08:51] <The_Rebel> you ever around on efnet?
[08:51] <zynergi> yep
[08:51] <zynergi> always on efnet ;)
[08:51] <tovella> mikelinux: i love it, though.  I've haven't found any problems.
[08:51] <bindaasbhai> I am new to linux and new to this channel ...as well..
[08:51] <zynergi> i'm in all of the console channels
[08:51] <The_Rebel> i knew i reconized that nick
[08:51] <zynergi> heh :D
[08:52] <rpc> zoli2k: http://www.pastebin.ca/361632
[08:52] <tovella> bindaasbhai: welcome.
[08:52] <The_Rebel> so whats up? no luck with the wireless chipsets eh?
[08:52] <zynergi> none ;(
[08:52] <zombieninja666> lolhai
[08:52] <mikelinux> mikelinux: i love it, though.  I've haven't found any problems. same
[08:52] <rempresent> anyone know a lot about graphics drivers and wine?
[08:52] <zoli2k> rpc: thx
[08:53] <slv> rempresent: #winehq here on freenode
[08:53] <bindaasbhai> Are there any generic drivers for ADSL USB modem?
[08:53] <koth> Hi there
[08:53] <rpc> zoli2k you seem to be my last hope, i spent 3 days on this and have no idea what can be wrong
[08:53] <tovella> rempresent: i used wine here and there, for a while.  i gave up, in favor of virtualbox.
[08:53] <rempresent> thanks slv
[08:54] <slv> no problem
[08:54] <slv> you could always ask your specific question in here too, if they don't help, but i figure they'd have a better grasp on it
[08:54] <rempresent> tovella:  vitrualbox?
[08:54] <rpc> rempresent it rocks
[08:54] <rempresent> explain?
[08:54] <rempresent> or site link?
[08:54] <tovella> rempresent: it was recently released as open-source.
[08:55] <slv> is it something like vmware
[08:55] <rpc> rempresent virtualbox.org
[08:55] <rpc> slv better than vmware :)
[08:55] <The_Rebel> do device driver modules install themselves into the kernel after doing "make install"?
[08:55] <rempresent> i paid for cedega for a while, then i went back to M$, but i can't stand XP
[08:55] <bindaasbhai> I mean if somebody can send me a link where i can find information related to the configuration of ADSL USB modem and Driver information as well , Is there a website which talks about this?
[08:55] <Muzik83> The_Rebel: you usually need to do a modprobe <modulename> afterwards
[08:55] <tovella> rpc: agreed... better than vmware.
[08:56] <rempresent> so i came back to ubuntu and i have a nice install of beryl rolling, get my friends drooling
[08:56] <The_Rebel> thanks Muzik83
[08:56] <Frogzoo> The_Rebel: depends - read the INSTALL
[08:56] <The_Rebel> sure thing
[08:56] <rpc> tovella it works smooth and it's faster
[08:56] <tovella> rempresent: what video driver do you use?
[08:56] <rempresent> argh, ati
[08:56] <ub12> I am getting lots of permission problems that i have never got before. Is anyone lese getting this?
[08:57] <ub12> ^^else
[08:57] <tovella> rempresent: wow, i've got to put ati on my list of "wanted".
[08:57] <Muzik83> ub12:  nope... what sort of problems?
[08:57] <Nergar> i'm not ub12
[08:57] <rempresent> "wanted", i had a lot of hangups with fglrx and frame rates dropping
[08:57] <rempresent> so, i want to go all invidia, but i haven't had time to get a new card
[08:58] <mindstate> how do i install win32 fonts in ubuntu?
[08:58] <ub12> Well it started with nano every time I tried to open nano I got that I did not hav epermession to open the config file
[08:58] <tovella> rpc: agreed. ...only found out about it a week ago, but it's allowed me to run program i can't run any other way (MS Streets and Trips)
[08:59] <rb007> mindstate: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts (you need multiverse enabled)
[08:59] <mindstate> rb007: thank you :)
[08:59] <Muzik83> ub12: which config file, if its something to do with the system configuration/operation, you will need to sudo nano configfile
[08:59] <rpc> tovella did you try headless mode so far? controlled by vrdp
[08:59] <The_Rebel> rempresent, im in the same boat as you kinda.. accept my gaming pc has a really good open gl card so its only the one with onboard gpu m worried about, and yeah i have some issues with fglrx too
[08:59] <jax> i used to be able to read chinese script on aMSN but i think since messing with wine ..aMSN no longer display chinese but instead just some symbols n numbers ..can any one suggest what i can do...thanks? A happy new year to everyone.
[08:59] <ub12> /home/user/.nanohistory
[08:59] <bindaasbhai> is there a website/blog to configure ADSL USB modem with driver information?
[09:00] <SoulinEther> how does ubuntu / gnome handle CD's being inserted? i'm looking at my fstab...
[09:00] <Muzik83> ub12: what does ls -la /home/user/.nano*
[09:00] <ub12> I tried to use abcde and I got the error that it could not mkdir in the /music/ directory
[09:00] <bindaasbhai> can somebody please help me?
[09:00] <tovella> rpc: not yet, but virtualization is very important to me.  it's part of what i hope to use in my job search strategy.
[09:01] <ub12> Muzik83, I did the chmod and nano works fine now
[09:01] <The_Rebel> this place needs a call center..
[09:01] <zoli2k> rpc: can you post me also "hdparm -I /dev/sda"  ? I do what I can :)
[09:01] <crimsun> this place /is/ a call center. Heh.
[09:01] <bindaasbhai> i agree...
[09:01] <Spee_Der> lol
[09:01] <Spee_Der> binda, what's up ?
[09:01] <rb007> there is a business idea for you... call center - live support $1/min or something
[09:02] <SoulinEther> I bet Canonical would sue you in 5 minutes :P
[09:02] <RaCarter> someone said it i think but missed it..
[09:02] <Frogzoo> zoli2k: hdparm doesn't work/help with sata
[09:02] <Muzik83> ub12: / is generally a bad place to put things, other than system files... that being said, you need root privileges to write to /, so sudo mkdir /music/ *would* work if you want it that way
[09:02] <bindaasbhai> not bad ... but will be worse ... if i dont get help on time...
[09:02] <RaCarter> how do you shut down all firewalls on ubuntu?
[09:02] <Muzik83> ub12: then chown it to a user you want to write with
[09:02] <rb007> SoulinEther: sue over call center?
[09:02] <Spee_Der> binda, what's a matter mate ?
[09:02] <SoulinEther> rb007: hey, I would :P
[09:02] <tovella> bindaasbhai: which ADSL modem do you have?
[09:02] <Frogzoo> RaCarter: sudo iptables -F
[09:02] <bindaasbhai> i am trying to configure...a Generic ADSL USB modem .... but to no joy
[09:02] <RaCarter> thanks
[09:03] <rb007> SoulinEther: why sue?  It's GPL software... you can sell support
[09:03] <zoli2k> Frogzoo: But is able to get informations about the SATA disk? I am right?
[09:03] <SoulinEther> rb007: I'd feel shafted that's why :)
[09:03] <ub12> Muzik83, I have down the chown but every program I run from the console is haveing permission problems
[09:03] <bindaasbhai> i have a RB Comptec Generic Modem...
[09:03] <rb007> SoulinEther: canonical got it for free... they get to redistribute and sell support... you can do the same
[09:03] <SoulinEther> rb007: yep i know :)
[09:03] <yharrow> muzik can you give us the exact text the error you get when trying to run a program
[09:03] <SoulinEther> rb007: just making up stories. it's better than wondering how the heck i get this dvd drive to work
[09:04] <yharrow> wait i meant ub12
[09:04] <yharrow> my bad
[09:04] <bindaasbhai> it is generic modem .......maybe nobody has heard of it .. before
[09:04] <rb007> SoulinEther: what is wrong with it?
[09:04] <Muzik83> lol
[09:04] <RaCarter> ok.. i never used iptables so..
[09:04] <macd> generic brand is the best. ;)
[09:04] <RaCarter> how do I turn iptables back on and allow https over 443
[09:04] <SoulinEther> rb007: i installed it into my pc after i put on ubuntu, i need to add some info into fstab, not sure if it will work either.
[09:04] <tovella> Muzik83: did you set up a password for root?  does logging in a root provide a solution?
[09:04] <Muzik83> tovella: i think you mean ub12?
[09:04] <rpc> zoli2k sure, i will paste in a sec
[09:05] <Frogzoo> zoli2k: "hdparm  provides  a  command line interface to various hard disk ioctls supported by the stock Linux ATA/IDE  device  driver  subsystem.
[09:05] <tovella> Muzik83: perhaps i messed up again.
[09:05] <rb007> SoulinEther: I wish I knew the answer to that one, but the only DVD I've ever played on this thing is Knoppix 4.0
[09:05] <rpc> zoli2k: http://www.pastebin.ca/361647
[09:05] <SoulinEther> rb007: do you reckon I can just copy the line I have here for my DVD burner at /dev/hdc and use it, instead replacing /dev/hdd, well, hum.
[09:06] <rb007> SoulinEther: I'm not sure...
[09:06] <SoulinEther> rb007: it's just, i need to have it mounted.. well, I'll try this, there shouldnt be too big harm made
[09:06] <Icehawk78> Is there a shell command to read in an entire line in a variable, including spaces?
[09:06] <SoulinEther> rb007: if it works I'll.... start a 1$/minute support system and make millions :P
[09:06] <rb007> Icehawk78: are you reading each line of a file, or just one line?
[09:07] <Frogzoo> zoli2k: googline about, it might work, might not
[09:07] <bindaasbhai> Tovella , can you help please?
[09:07] <zoexii> hello!  I finally get network manager to work... can anyone tell me how to get wpa working thru network manager?  It only shows the option of WEP encryption.
[09:07] <zoli2k> Frogzoo: for reading: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_hdparm_to_improve_IDE_device_performance , hdparm has a  limited functionality for SATA, but for getting informations it is ok.
[09:07] <SoulinEther> I'll brb.
[09:07] <Icehawk78> rb007: I'm actually just reading in an ls. I've got a bunch of files with spaces in their name, and I'm trying to just use sed to replace all of the spaces with underscores so I can batch rename them all
[09:08] <Spee_Der> bindaasbhai, I am looking also for information about that modem for you.
[09:08] <rb007> Icehawk78: use this: ali.de]  has joined #ubuntu
[09:08] <rb007> -:- ssstormy [n=sliverst@crown-6-135.resnet.ucsc.edu]  has joined #ubuntu
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[09:08] <rb007> sorry
[09:08] <tovella> bindaasbhai: perhaps, but i must admit that i'm on the verge of falling asleep.  ...no sleep for a few days.  what modem (make and model) do you have?
[09:09] <Icehawk78> lol, c/p the wrong lines?
[09:09] <rb007> Icehawk78: http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-bulk-rename-files-in-linux-in-the-terminal
[09:09] <Spee_Der> tovella, binda has a  RB Comptec Generic Modem
[09:10] <bindaasbhai> RB Comptec, X7005Q2 , Manufactured by Xavi Technologies, China#
[09:10] <bindaasbhai> Maybe this help?
[09:10] <tovella> Spee_Der: thx.  i'll do some checking and see what i can find.
[09:10] <koth> Hi there
[09:10] <SoulinEther> Hazzah, it worked! ... but now my sound card is borked again :)
[09:11] <Icehawk78> rb007: Thanks much, I was unaware that there was a "rename" command.
[09:11] <koth> i have problem using the grub, can anyone help me? when i do the find /boot/grub/stage1, it return (hd1,0)
[09:11] <zoexii> I can't remember which version of Ubuntu I have installed... is there a easy way to figure this out?
[09:11] <crimsun> lsb_release -r
[09:11] <koth> is this correct, it is the MBR?
[09:11] <rb007> Icehawk78: it's a great command... very useful... also can try Thunar file manager or Krename if you want to do it ina gui
[09:12] <yharrow> Im trying to delete a group of files that match a certain pattern using the rm command. I have been using rm "`ls -a | grep some_word`"  However whenever there is a space in the name it does not work.
[09:12] <SoulinEther> For the record, I <3 thunar.
[09:12] <Icehawk78> rb006: That'd be great... if I'd installed one.
[09:12] <zoexii> 6.10 ... is this edgy or dapper?
[09:12] <The_Rebel> is ubuntu really the easist linux distro? is it made for windows n00b's in mind..?
[09:12] <SoulinEther> 6.10 = Edgy
[09:12] <The_Rebel> opensuse is a lot friendly..
[09:12] <rb007> yharrow: you can use sed to change spaces to backslash spaces
[09:12] <SoulinEther> The_Rebel: not quite made for the windows user, but it certainly is much simpler to pick up than other linux distro's i have tried
[09:12] <Spee_Der> bindaasbhai, go here -->> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=250110
[09:12] <zoexii> SoulinEther, thanks.
[09:12] <Frogzoo> The_Rebel: not really, it's made as a user friendly linux distro - not a windows clone
[09:13] <yharrow> rb007: what would the resulting command look like?
[09:13] <yharrow> sed rm?
[09:13] <Amon-san> buw windows clone == linspire right?
[09:13] <The_Rebel> everything just goes wrong for mine when i try to swtich to ubuntu, so for opensuse has been the only thing that works for me..
[09:13] <SoulinEther> The_Rebel, there are one or two different linux distros aimed to be windows clones, but as far as I know, they aren't released under GPL
[09:13] <bindaasbhai> from the website... i found this X7005QII ADSL Annex A & B* USB modem is a full-featured plug-and-play modem, supporting multiple line codes and ATM protocols for worldwide DSL markets. Based on GlobespanVirata??s low power Centragate chipset and combined with the PC driver that utilizes the host resources, X7005QII delivers a cost effective ADSL modem solution to customers.
[09:13] <rb007> yharrow: something like sed 's/[[:space:] ] /\\[[:space:] ] /g'
[09:13] <rb007> that is the final command that grep gets piped to
[09:13] <SoulinEther> The_Rebel: what goes wrong?
[09:13] <yharrow> oh ok
[09:14] <rb007> yharrow: but do a test run first before running it... and do verbose/interactive... rm -iv
[09:14] <The_Rebel> x11 crashes, live cd's not working, lack of hardware support out of the box..
[09:14] <rb007> yharrow: that will prompt you before delete -- so the script doesn't go crazy and delete things that you want to save.
[09:14] <bindaasbhai> So it is based on GlobespanVirata??s low power Centragate chipset?
[09:15] <SoulinEther> The_Rebel: hum, well... if you're having issues with the Live CD, theres not much I can do for ya lol.
[09:15] <SoulinEther> The_Rebel: dunno, I'm not the one to cure your issues there
[09:15] <bindaasbhai> so basically looking drivers for GlobespanVirata??s low power Centragate chipset
[09:15] <The_Rebel> didnt think you were
[09:15] <The_Rebel> just sayin
[09:15] <yharrow> so it would be  "`grep sed 's/[[:space] ] /\\space:] ] /g' `"?
[09:15] <Tigger__> hi all
[09:15] <The_Rebel> im gonna try my best to fight through the pain though
[09:15] <tovella> bindaasbhai: wow, that seems to be a "not so poplar" modem, but i was able to find a couple of links via google regarding that model number and linux. also the same model number and Ubuntu.
[09:15] <SoulinEther> The_Rebel : yeah i know, I tried 3 linux distros before I stuck to Ubuntu, ....... but this was also over a span of like 4-5 years
[09:15] <The_Rebel> i really want to give it a try
[09:16] <The_Rebel> wow, thats a long time
[09:16] <yharrow> rm that i mean
[09:16] <SoulinEther> it is
[09:16] <memo_> i cant install staroffice 8 in ubuntu
[09:16] <SoulinEther> the first linux distro i tried was turbolinux
[09:16] <tovella> bindaasbhai: are you familiar with compiling software?
[09:16] <SoulinEther> that was insanely difficult to set up
[09:16] <memo_> can you helpme
[09:16] <The_Rebel> this is my frist year of actually using a linux distro on my hd, before it was all live cd's..
[09:16] <SoulinEther> yeah
[09:17] <bindaasbhai> no i am afraid i am not aware with the compiling software?
[09:17] <porfavor> What is the difference between CD and DVD in download section of Ubuntu ? DVD contain more software ?
[09:17] <zoli2k> rpc: DMA works, no error message in dmesg. Interesting. Maybe some problems with the filesystem?
[09:17] <SoulinEther> Live CDs tend to accurately portray how it would funciton on the hard drive, if your live cd's support installing .. my only issue is how slow they are
[09:17] <rb007> yharrow: no... I think you had a grep command in there. (I'm using bitchx in the terminal and it's not scrolling up well)... you take your last grep or whatever it was, and pipe the final result into sed... can you post your command again?
[09:17] <tovella> SoulinEther: turbolinux was great, though.
[09:17] <memo_> I have problems with rpms
[09:17] <SoulinEther> tovella: Really? I never got to use it :)
[09:17] <SoulinEther> tovella: I think i was stuck somewhere along the way of the setup :P
[09:18] <lastnode> rb007, shift+pageup scrolls up
[09:18] <SoulinEther> rb007: that is a lifesaver too lol
[09:18] <lastnode> (in irssi at least)
[09:18] <tovella> SoulinEther: perhaps, I do know that IBM was somewhat involved with them a few years ago.
[09:18] <rpc> zoli2k how about: IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit) <---shouldn't this be 32-bit?!
[09:18] <rb007> lastnode: yeah... not working right for some reason though
[09:19] <memo_> its can be because i habe a 64 bit vcomputer?
[09:19] <rpc> zoli2k as filesystem is really ok, not a single prob and drive is basically half-empty
[09:19] <SoulinEther> tovella: really? that's neat i guess
[09:19] <SoulinEther> hum
[09:19] <Muzik-brb> rpc: i was watchin your posts from before, my sata disks work fine, and they have 16bit
[09:19] <SoulinEther> you know, windows' success wasn't spontaneous in my opinion.
[09:20] <SoulinEther> there just needs to be a linux that doesn't just match it, but tops it
[09:20] <rpc> Muzik-brb hmm
[09:20] <mei> hi guys sorry i have a question..where should i save my jsp files to run properly, i have installed tomcat and its working proerly
[09:20] <rb007> SoulinEther: I think Ubuntu tops XP... no problem
[09:20] <yharrow> rm "`ls | grep some_word | sed 's/[[:space:] ] /\\[[:space:] ] /m'`"
[09:20] <zoli2k> rpc: on ext3 there is no problem with data fragmentation, so I don't think that the performance will significantly differs for full and empty drive.
[09:20] <zoli2k> rpc:  16 bit is ok
[09:20] <SoulinEther> mei: oh God, I never found out myself :S
[09:20] <Muzik-brb> SoulinEther: Ubuntu with Beryl tops vista :p
[09:20] <tovella> bindaasbhai: since compiling programs is not something you may not be familiar with, i don't want to point you in the wrong direction.
[09:20] <SoulinEther> Now tell me again, how do i install beryl? :P
[09:20] <yharrow> meant  "`ls | grep some_word | sed 's/[[:space:] ] /\\[[:space:] ] /d'`"
[09:21] <SoulinEther> what i'm getting at is...... its just not simple.
[09:21] <Crankeye> My beryl broke when I updated >_>:
[09:21] <Crankeye> Whats the deal with that??
[09:21] <SoulinEther> I don't disagree to ME Ubuntu is better than windows xp/vista
[09:21] <mei> SoulinEther what do u mean ?
[09:21] <rpc> zoli2k, Muzik-brb: 4MB/s off an modern drive is crazy, how come is it like this?
[09:21] <SoulinEther> mei: it was pretty confusing :S
[09:21] <thcmonkey> good morning fellow bunters
[09:21] <rpc> i would expect 30/s minimum
[09:21] <kristjans> Crankeye: I'd suggest you to join #beryl. It's
[09:21] <davin> how can I convert an ogg flie to a wav file?
[09:21] <SoulinEther> mei: then again I never used a java server before lol
[09:21] <Muzik-brb> SoulinEther: if everything is supported, then its easy to install (my gf did it, shes in no way computer savvy... thankfully shes not over my shoulder or i'd be getting hit) ...but her computer has well supported hardware
[09:21] <kristjans> on the same server.
[09:21] <zoli2k> rpc: but, hdparm reads from the disk 50MB/Sec
[09:22] <The_Rebel> i noticed my arch said i386 while compiling kernel 2.6.20, and my real arch is i686, is this normal?
[09:22] <rpc> yes, close to 60 even
[09:22] <zoli2k> rpc: try to set up a raw filesystem
[09:22] <SoulinEther> Muzik-brb: and that's just the thing, she had and many have supported hardware
[09:22] <rpc> zoli2k i got another drive hooked up, can play in there in fact
[09:22] <mei> SoulinEther when u know nothin about it ud better not talk and make the channel busier
[09:22] <tovella> bindaasbhai: anyway i found this link, that may be somewhat helpful.  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=250110
[09:22] <thcmonkey> jesus, i didn't expect this channel to be so busy
[09:22] <The_Rebel> me neither..
[09:22] <thcmonkey> ubuntu's obviously fairly popular
[09:22] <tripppy> can somone point me in the right direction when it comes to sharing a folder on ubuntu for windows read/write access?
[09:22] <The_Rebel> i had a link
[09:23] <The_Rebel> but it was for suse..
[09:23] <The_Rebel> it can still help you pbly..
[09:23] <The_Rebel> 1 sec
[09:23] <zynergi> anyone using dual wan on dd-wrt?
[09:23] <bindaasbhai> cheers @ Tovella
[09:23] <SoulinEther> mei: well, I do shed attention on your Tomcat issue, in a form of "bump" akin to a forum.
[09:23] <Muzik-brb> tripppy: see ntfs-3g if you want to write to a windows partition on linux, and ext2fsd if you want to write to a linux partition from windows (assuming on the same computer... see samba if you want to do it over a network)
[09:23] <rpc> zoli2k how do you setup a raw filesystem?
[09:23] <thcmonkey> i'm loving ubuntu already at a d/l speed of 236kbs from one of their english mirrors, i'm a happy man
[09:23] <tovella> bindaasbhai: i wish i had some more insight as to this problem, but my brain just isn't really functioning correctly right now.  ...thank god for spellchecking.
[09:24] <mei> SoulinEther ok ok...ok ..
[09:24] <rpc> thcmonkey that's because you have never seen them flying at 5MB/s :)
[09:24] <SoulinEther> rpc: I hate you :'(
[09:24] <The_Rebel> tripppy you need to install samba-client and swat..
[09:24] <rpc> SoulinEther yes, i hate myself too ;)
[09:24] <thcmonkey> bt owe me an upgrade so i'll be seeing them soon :D
[09:24] <mei> does anybody know anything about jsp how to save and where to save its files  and its examples?
[09:24] <bindaasbhai> let me try this...i am new to linux.... so i might have to come back to seek help again..
[09:25] <SoulinEther> rpc: upon getting ubuntu i downgraded my internet because of costs. 500k/s to 150.... that was hard, lol.
[09:25] <thcmonkey> Soul -  that sucks...
[09:25] <rb007> yharrow: that wen't by too fast and I lost it (can't scroll up to find it) -- I'll log off and re-login with gaim or something... then I will be able to see it.
[09:25] <rpc> SoulinEther oh i read you...
[09:25] <thcmonkey> how much was 5meg costing you?
[09:25] <rb007> brb
[09:25] <bindaasbhai> Appreciate your help Tovella...Have a good nite mate...#
[09:25] <SoulinEther> Indeed.
[09:25] <The_Rebel> sorry to hear that SoulinEther
[09:25] <yharrow> ok
[09:25] <SoulinEther> oh i'm long over it lol dont worry :)
[09:25] <SoulinEther> still, when i'm doing upgrades, i always think.... if i just had cable...
[09:25] <zoli2k> rpc: try this for raw read: time dd if=/dev/sda1 bs=64k count=10000 of=/dev/null bs=64k
[09:25] <rpc> SoulinEther but seriously... 150-250KB/s at home is really enough for most things
[09:25] <thcmonkey> SoulinEther how much was 5meg costing?
[09:25] <yharrow> rb007 am using gaim right now. scrolls pretty well
[09:26] <SoulinEther> thcmonkey: i didnt have the 5 meg, that's rpc :P
[09:26] <rpc> SoulinEther unless you need to download big images every day
[09:26] <thcmonkey> but you said you downgraded
[09:26] <koth> is it possible for a computer have NO hda??
[09:26] <SoulinEther> rpc: I agree, but I'm generally downloading an update or two or many lol per day
[09:26] <rpc> that's not 5 meg, that's 12 meg :)
[09:26] <thcmonkey> from 500kbs to 125kbs
[09:26] <thcmonkey> shit
[09:26] <miyako> giod: what is the output of tail -n 100 /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "\(EE\)"
[09:26] <thcmonkey> i've realised my error
[09:26] <yharrow> koth, i beleive so
[09:26] <miyako> oop, wrong window, sorry
[09:26] <novice> can anyone give me the command to copy the folder "OS-L-Iconset-Buildkit" which i have downloaded to my desktop , to /usr/share/pixmaps
[09:26] <yharrow> koth I have sda
[09:26] <zoli2k> rpc:  my SATA gives: http://www.pastebin.ca/361668
[09:26] <rb007> yharrow: if you want to send that line again I can look at it (in gaim now)
[09:26] <yharrow> koth or if you mean no harddrive than yes also.
[09:27] <Muzik-brb> koth: if you have a sata disk, it may be on /dev/sda ...also with scsi disks, diskless machines
[09:27] <thcmonkey> so, rpc, how much you paying for 5meg ?
[09:27] <koth> yharrow: i have sda too
[09:27] <SoulinEther> rpc: yes tell us lol
[09:27] <thcmonkey> or are you on an 8meg account with poor performance?
[09:27] <thcmonkey> :P
[09:27] <tovella> i've gotta go...   don't wan't my sleep deprivation to cause any mis-information to get through.  ...goodnight all.
[09:27] <SoulinEther> tovella: night
[09:27] <yharrow> koth, like muzik said you probably have a sata disk
[09:27] <The_Rebel> later tovella
[09:27] <koth> Muzik: Thanks, i have usb drive on sda
[09:27] <thcmonkey> night tov
[09:27] <rpc> thcmonkey i'm not paying for 5 :)
[09:27] <yharrow> or usb
[09:27] <thcmonkey> loo... work? uni?
[09:27] <SoulinEther> rpc: 10? i knew it!
[09:27] <rpc> thcmonkey that's 12 :)
[09:27] <thcmonkey> lol*
[09:27] <rb007> Has anyone used Crossover Office to install Office 2003?  How long does it take?  This has been installing for 30 minutes already...
[09:27] <koth> yharrow: that might be it then
[09:27] <rpc> thcmonkey work
[09:28] <zoli2k> I have only 4 Megs :(
[09:28] <thcmonkey> they pay for your home account?
[09:28] <SoulinEther> rb007: i have noticed some installs using wine to take extended amounts of time, i can't tell you exactly, but running it will probably be full speed
[09:28] <rpc> thcmonkey i don't have that at home mate, just think :)
[09:28] <zoli2k> but optical cable
[09:28] <koth> yharrow, Muzik: I have a problem getting gurb to work, can u guys help?
[09:28] <SoulinEther> rpc: work :P
[09:28] <The_Rebel> LOL i left my vnc server running so i could monitor my kernel building and my bro is surfing the net for pr0n
[09:28] <yharrow> rb007, ok one sex
[09:28] <yharrow> sec
[09:28] <yharrow> damn
[09:29] <Muzik-brb> koth: depends on the problem
[09:29] <rb007> SoulinEther: It's "writing registry values" -- kind of funny... hanging up at this point for a while
[09:29] <mei> #java
[09:29] <thcmonkey> rpc... you work for a national service?
[09:29] <Muzik-brb> koth: i know a bit of grub
[09:29] <SoulinEther> rb007: oh, hum, I had issues with extracting files
[09:29] <koth> Muzik: cool, thanks in advance.
[09:29] <doojin> Am I able to install ubuntu by booting with a usb device?
[09:29] <rpc> thcmonkey you like to know alot, don't you :)
[09:29] <yharrow> rm  "`ls | grep some_word | sed 's/[[:space:] ] /\\[[:space:] ] /d'`"
[09:29] <thcmonkey> sorry man
[09:29] <koth> Muzik: I have XP on hdf1
[09:29] <zoli2k> rpc: can you paste the result of:  time dd if=/dev/sda1 bs=64k count=10000 of=/dev/null bs=64k
[09:29] <novice>  can anyone give me the command to copy the folder "OS-L-Iconset-Buildkit/32x32/actions" which i have downloaded to my desktop , to /usr/share/pixmaps
[09:29] <thcmonkey> it's half 8 in the morning rpc... i'm just bored waiting for my download to get done
[09:30] <thcmonkey> rpc i'm an old school irc chatter
[09:30] <Muzik-brb> ok
[09:30] <rpc> zoli2k will that destroy my filesystem or safe to try?
[09:30] <koth> Muzik: and ubuntu is on hdd1,2,5 (boot, root, and swap)i guess
[09:30] <zoli2k> rpc: see man dd
[09:30] <novice> !copy to root
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about copy to root - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <koth> Muzik: some how when i boot again, it load XP.
[09:30] <SoulinEther> novice: i THINK it's....... sudo cp ~/OS-L-Iconset-Buildkit/32x32/actions/* /usr/share/pixmaps
[09:30] <SoulinEther> novice: oops
[09:30] <SoulinEther> novice: forgot Desktop
[09:31] <thcmonkey> can i install from the ubunutu iso. withouth burning it as an image?
[09:31] <koth> Muzik
[09:31] <Muzik-brb> koth: ok, does it go into grub at all?
[09:31] <novice> solinehter: when i use dat command its showing missing destination files
[09:31] <thcmonkey> is rh8 able to do that
[09:31] <thcmonkey> ?
[09:31] <koth> Muzik: someone here told me to reinstall grub, but the HowTo that i follow only take care of hda
[09:31] <SoulinEther> novice: did you put in ~/Desktop/etcetcetc/* /usr.....
[09:31] <koth> Muzik: No, stright to XP
[09:32] <doojin> Can I install ubuntu through a usb memory stick?
[09:32] <yharrow> rb007: rm  "`ls | grep some_word | sed 's/[[:space:] ] /\\[[:space:] ] /d'`"
[09:32] <novice> soulinether: ya...  i used the correct command
[09:32] <zoli2k> rpc: the "if=" specifies the file to read and "of=" the file to write. "if" is your sata partition and "of" is the "/dev/null" black hole of linux (the read data will be lost).
[09:32] <rb007> yharrow: I would try something like this, but test it first, and make sure it looks right. (I can't take responsibility for it not working, so read it carefully).  You can't get files back after you delete them this way.  rm -iv  "`ls -l | grep some_word | sed 's/[[:space:] ] /\\[[:space:] ] /g'`"
[09:32] <SoulinEther> novice: hum. then i don't know, i think that's what i had used to copy some stuff once..
[09:32] <novice> soulinether:n i also tried with cp -r
[09:32] <rpc> zoli2k right... thank you, it's running now, i will get you results soon
[09:32] <Muzik-brb> koth: then yes, you need to reinstall grub.  Perhaps someone can double check this before you do it, but I do believe it needs to be on hda....so the computer boots from it.  Then it loads the menu.list from your boot folder under linux, which is where it specifies how to get to windows (This may be wrong)
[09:33] <koth> Muzik: that is the question, i do not have hda =D
[09:33] <rb007> yharrow: the -iv means to prompt you before each delete and to tell you what it's doing.  The s///g means replace globally... the -l on ls means to list them, otherwise you will have multiple files on each line
[09:33] <yharrow> rb007: ok that makes sense. why the s and g though?
[09:33] <SoulinEther> novice: i suppose you don't have a GUI / X installed?
[09:33] <yharrow> oh ok
[09:33] <rpc> zoli2k hmm... http://www.pastebin.ca/361674
[09:33] <Muzik-brb> koth: d'oh
[09:33] <Muzik-brb> koth: then do it to sda, your first disk
[09:33] <novice> soulinether: i have Gnome desktop
[09:34] <rb007> yharrow:  wait...my suggestions is wrong
[09:34] <rb007> one sec
[09:34] <zoli2k> rpc: 32MB, it is not well but is more than 4M.
[09:34] <SoulinEther> novice: then just run sudo nautilus, it'll run a nautilus with root permissions
[09:34] <yharrow> umm ok.
[09:34] <koth> Muzik: i have hdc, hdd, hde, hdf, sda(this is a USB)
[09:34] <yharrow> rb007 why wouldnt it work?
[09:34] <rpc> zoli2k why it does only 4M then?
[09:34] <Muzik-brb> koth: now thats a strange setup...thinking for a sec
[09:34] <zoli2k> rpc: do you have ext3 file system?
[09:34] <novice> soulinether: k..... thanx... i will try this method also...
[09:35] <SoulinEther> novice: yep, should work nicely I hope :)
[09:35] <Muzik-brb> koth: where is windows on, which drive?
[09:35] <koth> Muzik: i think this is wired too =D but i have no idea where is the MBR now.
[09:35] <koth> Muzik: windows is on hdc
[09:35] <rpc> zoli2k yes
[09:36] <Muzik-brb> im guessing then hdc is where your MBR is
[09:36] <rb007> yharrow: does it work when there are no spaces?
[09:36] <yharrow> one sec gotta test
[09:36] <koth> Muzik: o no, windows is on hde1, u think MBR is on hde1?
[09:36] <elias137> could anyone tell me please which packet should i apt-get to have 'sdl' installed? i use Kubuntu
[09:36] <rb007> yharrow: because I think ls is going to output more than one filename per line... and if you use ls -l it's going to add a lot of other crap to the line
[09:37] <crazy_penguin> Hello
[09:37] <novice> soulinether: thanx dude...... its working fine....
[09:37] <Muzik-brb> koth: if it were my computer, i'd try installing grub to hde ...but be prepared to restore the mbr from windows incase it breaks it (im not really sure what i'd do, if you dont know how to restore the mbr, then dont do this!)
[09:38] <elias137> anybody?
[09:38] <SoulinEther> novice: no problem man :)
[09:38] <rb007> yharrow: can regular expressions be used with rm?  Maybe something like: rm -iv "regular expression here"
[09:38] <thcmonkey> ubunut fits to a 700mb cd doesn't it?
[09:38] <yharrow> rb007 I can try
[09:39] <koth> Muzik: i think this is really logical. MBR, i use fdisk before to do it, but it is when i still using floppy to run my fdisk .... i don't know how it work nowaday in XP =D
[09:39] <thcmonkey> like 715... that's not really a problem, right?
[09:39] <SoulinEther> thcmonkey: yes
[09:39] <thcmonkey> awesome
[09:39] <Muzik-brb> koth: ya i've forgotten all my xp info from a few years of constant linux use... kinda bad though, its totally gone :s
[09:39] <thcmonkey> SoulinEther - i can write it on KOnCD too, right?
[09:40] <koth> Muzik: good for u =)
[09:40] <Muzik-brb> koth: you will probably run into more problems once you have grub installed, with mis-detected hard drive numbers
[09:40] <yharrow> rb007: when I do rm on a bunch of files with grep the every space starts rm again
[09:40] <koth> Muzik: o, this is bad
[09:40] <rb007> yharrow: but it works without the space?
[09:41] <rb007> (if there is no space)
[09:41] <yharrow> what im saying is that it outputs a one thread with spaces inbetween files
[09:41] <yharrow> and the spaces create new rm operations
[09:41] <koth> Muzik: i will get into my windows box again and check with the partion in XP first
[09:41] <rb007> yharrow: oh
[09:42] <yharrow> rb007 seems a little hopeles
[09:42] <yharrow> hopeless*
[09:42] <rb007> yharrow: how many files are you trying to delete?
[09:42] <tcpip> my ubuntu installation drive is running low on hdd space.. pls tell me any safe cache/logs/files that i can delete
[09:43] <yharrow> well about 15 and I could always do rm some* if all files start with some*
[09:43] <rb007> yharrow: you can remove all spaces from those filenames before running the command: http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-bulk-rename-files-in-linux-in-the-terminal
[09:43] <Muzik83> tcpip: apt-get clean
[09:44] <yharrow> rb007 ok. so i would in effect rename then delete
[09:44] <koth> Muzik: this is bad, i cannot get back to XP now =D
[09:44] <rb007> yharrow: just an idea
[09:44] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < zeroth404 > Shirakawasuna, same hd devices
[09:44] <yharrow> which is a bit of a hack I suppose but reasonable
[09:44] <youkilldkennedy> What can I use to unrar .rar files?
[09:44] <Muzik83> koth: d'oh, ok are you getting grub coming up?
[09:44] <tcpip> thanks Muzik83 .. really helped get back a lot of space... thanks once again
[09:45] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < zeroth404 > cuepeatea, please stop
[09:45] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < Shirakawasuna > zeroth404: weird, I have no idea
[09:45] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < Shirakawasuna > sorry ;)
[09:45] <Muzik83> youkilldkennedy: winrar has a linux version (but it's command line)
[09:45] <koth> Muzik: no =D it restart and restart and restart by itself =D
[09:45] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < ssstormy > tecnico, so what's the benifit? what does it mean when u don't have a PHY?
[09:45] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < zeroth404 > cuepeatea ignored
[09:45] <zoli2k> rpc: Ok, my theory, which maybe is useful. It can be a hardware problem, conflict between hardwares, or kernel SATA driver problem. You can test this by removing other drives and test the drive speed from a liveCD. You can try a higher kernel (upgrading to feisty with 2.6.20 kernel, but be careful, this is a development version of ubuntu). There was some clean up of sata_via driver in 2.6.20.
[09:45] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < Shirakawasuna > so many OPs, so little banning
[09:45] <killcops> lol
[09:45] <killcops> lol
[09:45] <killcops> lol
[09:45] <killcops> lol
[09:45] <killcops> lol
[09:45] <killcops> lol
[09:45] <killcops> lol
[09:45] <Muzik83> koth: hmm thats no good, sounds like we found the mbr though
[09:45] <youkilldkennedy> Muzik83: Thanks
[09:45] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < zeroth404 > haha
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[09:45] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < zeroth404 > bot
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[09:46] <thcmonkey> is there a site that tells us what ubuntu comes with? like a list of the apps and shit?
[09:46] <killcops> 
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[09:46] <thcmonkey> web browser it uses and stuff
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[09:46] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < killcops > 
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[09:46] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < killcops > 
[09:46] <killcops> rofl
[09:46] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < killcops > 
[09:46] <killcops> rofl
[09:46] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < killcops > 
[09:46] <killcops> rofl
[09:46] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < zeroth404 > killcops ignored
[09:46] <Kristov> :\
[09:46] <killcops> rofl
[09:46] <cafuego_> !ops
[09:46] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[09:46] <killcops> rofl
[09:46] <Gunny> God, someone needs to ban these children
[09:46] <cuepeatea> PIPEFUCT #gentoo -> #ubuntu < killcops > rofl
[09:46] <davin> Great. I edited my menu with Alacarte, and now its empty.
[09:46] <killcops> LOl
[09:47] <killcops> LOl
[09:47] <killcops> LOl
[09:47] <killcops> LOl
[09:47] <zoli2k> killcops: I see you can find a "?" button. Can you also use your brain with the same period?
[09:47] <cafuego_> elkbuntu: Ta!
[09:47] <killcops> LOl
[09:47] <killcops> LOl
[09:47] <cafuego_> elkbuntu: Ta2!
[09:47] <elkbuntu> ;)
[09:47] <thcmonkey> why do you get cocks in channels from time to time?
[09:47] <elkbuntu> thcmonkey, careful with your language
[09:47] <cafuego_> thcmonkey: If we knew that, we could have the gene removed.
[09:47] <davin> Anyone?
[09:47] <Mez> thcmonkey, cause anyone has access to the internet
[09:48] <thcmonkey> nice point cafuego
[09:48] <cafuego_> Is iot wrong to have dinner delivered from a place 50m up the road?
[09:48] <thcmonkey> but i liked to think that linux users were above being c0cks... i was deluding myself
[09:48] <rpc> now leeching from local gigabit ftp: 2.64 MB/s.... isn't this just ridiculous? it's slower than my 10 years old Caviar 1GB
[09:48] <koth> Muzik: really bad =) windows load, but it restart once the mouse appear
[09:48] <tripppy> not if you have no legs
[09:49] <koth> Muzik: time to go to another place to look for windows help first =D
[09:49] <cafuego_> thcmonkey: Some get angry when they find their attitude does not entitle them to free support.
[09:49] <thcmonkey> lol @ trippy
[09:49] <betatux> cafuego, not unless you're tipping
[09:49] <yharrow> rb007 dont think itll work
[09:49] <yharrow> rb007 not sure though.
[09:49] <thcmonkey> ordering food 50m from up the road is lazy... do the rocky balboa and just shout your order out of the window
[09:49] <thcmonkey> have them throw it to you
[09:50] <cafuego_> thcmonkey: thunderstorm, might be tricky
[09:50] <Muzik83> koth: sorry, and maybe try ubuntu-forums, thsi sounds more than a quick-fix job...
[09:50] <thcmonkey> eesh
[09:50] <ingrix> Alright, so this is a very unintelligent question, but how would I go about telling how much used and free space I have on a hard drive using the terminal?
[09:50] <rb007> youkilldkenny: sudo apt-get install unrar
[09:50] <cafuego_> almost certainly soggy
[09:50] <thcmonkey> then it definitely is NOT lazy
[09:50] <thcmonkey> just smart
[09:50] <Muzik83> ingrix: df -h
[09:50] <thcmonkey> ] who goes out in a thuderstorm for dinner?
[09:50] <thcmonkey> not me!
[09:50] <ingrix> Thank you muzik
[09:50] <youkilldkennedy> rb007: Thanks
[09:50] <cafuego_> thcmonkey: Well, I could have ortdered from the other place, 25m away, undercover.
[09:51] <yharrow> rb007 rename matches a part of a word and replaces it. so I would have to have a space in the regexp I was looking for in order for the space to be replaced.
[09:51] <thcmonkey> you live in a town i assume?
[09:51] <rb007> youkilldkennedy: usage: unrar x [filename.rar]   (replacing filename with the target file)
[09:51] <rpc> does anyone know if there are settings that could influence my NIC seriously and lower xfers significantly?
[09:51] <davin> eh
[09:51] <davin> #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:51] <yharrow> nm
[09:51] <cafuego_> ingrix: Also handy is 'du -sh <directory>' to check the size of a directory.
[09:51] <davin> Great. I edited my menu with Alacarte, and now its empty.
[09:51] <cafuego_> thcmonkey: inner city melbourne (au)
[09:51] <yharrow> rb007 thanks for everything
[09:51] <jussi01> !offtopic
[09:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:52] <thcmonkey> shit, i was just recently in australia
[09:52] <yharrow> rb007 Ill have to figure this out later
[09:52] <thcmonkey> spent 8 months there
[09:52] <thcmonkey> although i never made it to melbourne
[09:52] <rb007> yharrow:  \s matches a space...  is that what you are looking for?
[09:52] <cafuego_> tssk
[09:52] <Amaranth> davin: rm ~/.config/menus/*
[09:52] <vinboy__> hi
[09:53] <vinboy__> which repository should I use to install beryl?? i currently have beerorkid.com and beryl.com
[09:53] <thcmonkey> spent three months in brisbane though, that city's nice
[09:53] <unimatrix9> !ubotu devede
[09:53] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[09:53] <yharrow> rb007 yeah but what im saying is that if I was looking for some_part of "some word with some_part" then how would I replace all the spaces in that
[09:53] <Muzik83> vinboy__: theres a very good howto here http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu which details the repositories
[09:54] <eric__> hey everyone
[09:54] <yharrow> rb007 there would have to be some kind of for or case function
[09:54] <vinboy__> Muzik83: thx
[09:54] <davin> Amaranth: rm: cannot remove `/home/davin/.config/menus/applications-merged': Is a directory
[09:54] <Amaranth> davin: should be able to ignore that
[09:54] <yharrow> davin. rm -R
[09:55] <Amaranth> davin: menus back?
[09:55] <Kristov> davin rm -r
[09:55] <Kristov> or rmdir
[09:55] <rb007> yharrow: rename -n 's/\s/-/'
[09:55] <davin> Amaranth nope
[09:55] <rb007> yharrow: the -n means a test run... when you are ready to do the final run, change the -n to -v
[09:55] <unimatrix9> !ubotu mplayer
[09:55] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[09:55] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[09:55] <rb007> yharrow: (If I am understanding you)
[09:55] <davin> well
[09:55] <davin> Systme and Places work fine
[09:56] <rebel> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-21-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[09:56] <rebel> rt73.ko failed to build!
[09:56] <davin> but when I click Applications nothing shows up
[09:56] <Amaranth> davin: alright, try 'rm -rf ~/.config/menus ~/.local/share/applicaions ~/.local/share/desktop-directories'
[09:56] <rebel> help plz!
[09:56] <yharrow> rb007 ok so I can replace all the spaces. but how do I do that for every file I want
[09:56] <Amaranth> davin: if that doesn't fix it alacarte didn't break it
[09:56] <cafuego_> rebel: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:56] <cafuego_> rebel: or use module-assistant
[09:56] <yharrow> rb007 I think this the main issue turning the list of files into variables
[09:56] <davin> still not
[09:56] <davin> lemme try and reboot
[09:56] <rebel> thanks cafuego i'll try that out
[09:56] <rb007> yharrow: my example replaces all spaces in a word with dashes... if there is something common to all files, e.g., "some-word", then you can do this: rename -n 's/\s/-/' *some-word*
[09:57] <cafuego_> No need to try, it just works.
[09:57] <rb007> yharrow: the * are wildcards
[09:57] <rebel> E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.15-21-386
[09:57] <thcmonkey> what a i best off using to write the ubuntu iso?
[09:57] <yharrow> rb007 and the rename will occur only to the file that matches the *someword*?
[09:58] <yharrow> but will not replace someword?
[09:58] <rb007> yharrow: it will only rename (replace spaces) to files that contain "some-word" in the filename... the -n option for rename makes it a test run.  It won't change any filenames, but just show you what it would change if you removed the -n and changed it to -v
[09:59] <Muzik83> rebel: try linux-headers-... instead of kernel-headers
[09:59] <rebel> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.15-21-386
[09:59] <rb007> yharrow: it won't replace someword -- the substitute command (s/old/new) only changes spaces to dashes (in that example)
[10:00] <youkilldkennedy> Does anyone know of a n64 emulator that works with Linux? I need to brush up on my Mario Kart skillz...
[10:00] <rebel> im using ubuntu 6.06 dapper beta
[10:01] <unimatrix9> 6.06 ? thats not a beta is it?
[10:01] <unimatrix9> thats LTS
[10:01] <rebel> its an old disc..
[10:01] <unimatrix9> why dont you download an newer version?
[10:01] <rebel> i did
[10:01] <rebel> it doesnt boot
[10:01] <rebel> black screen
[10:01] <jussi01> youkilldkennedy: i think zsnes does it
[10:01] <unimatrix9> hmm
[10:01] <rebel> after the loading bars..
[10:02] <unimatrix9> also as live cd?
[10:02] <davin> hey I got my menus back
[10:02] <davin> thanks
[10:02] <Muzik83> rebel: apt-cache search | grep linux-headers
[10:02] <Muzik83> see if you have any headers available
[10:02] <rebel> kk
[10:02] <youkilldkennedy> jussi01: Thanks
[10:02] <rebel> "E: You must give exactly one pattern"
[10:02] <davin> I know why
[10:02] <davin> I had a submenu called Applications under Applications and I hid it
[10:02] <Muzik83> errrrr
[10:02] <jussi01>  youkilldkennedy: np
[10:02] <Muzik83> sorry
[10:03] <Muzik83> apt-cache search linux-headers
[10:03] <Muzik83> had a brain fart
[10:03] <rebel> after doing that i got lots of results.. what am i looking for?
[10:03] <yharrow> rb007 if I am going to do this perhaps I should just do  rename -n 's/.*someword*./delete_this/'  which will make it easier to then do rm "`ls | grep delete_this"` in other words replacing every file that contains the term someword with "delete_this
[10:04] <yharrow> rb007, I hope that I am not taking up to much of your time with this
[10:04] <Muzik83> closest to 2.6.15-21-386 ...best is 2.6.15-21-generic or without anything after the 21
[10:04] <jwtod1> hey ... my screensaver looks fine in preview but not when activated. ideas?
[10:04] <rb007> yharrow: yeah... itmight work..
[10:04] <unimatrix9> hmm, i would go for an clean install of edgy or something..
[10:05] <rb007> yharrow: no problem on time, but I'm going to head to bed in a minute... 4am here
[10:05] <unimatrix9> alternative cd, you could use that too for install...
[10:05] <rb007> yharrow: my installtion of M$ office on Ubuntu didn't work... will try again tomorrow :S
[10:05] <yharrow> rb007, heh 4 am here too in ny. you live in the east coast?
[10:05] <yharrow> rb007 did you try crossover office?
[10:06] <rb007> yharrow: yeah.. Miami... I'm using crossover office trial version... if it works, will never have to boot Windows again.
[10:06] <rpc> how can you disable flow-control on eth0?
[10:06] <rebel> everything is 23 and up Muzik83
[10:07] <jussi01> rb007: did it hang at registration??
[10:07] <yharrow> sweet. I hope it does work out.
[10:07] <Anubis> can someone tell me how to install and run x server ?
[10:07] <yharrow> rb007. well I suppose we both ought to get to bed, I'll talk to you tomorrow if Im around. thanks for the help
[10:07] <rb007> jussi01: didn' t even get that far... it looked like it was done installing and then said "installation failed" or something...
[10:07] <ivx> hello, after i do ctrl+shft+f2 when it locks up, is there a way to launch gnome again?
[10:08] <rb007> yharrow: ok... good luck with it
[10:08] <yharrow> thanks.
[10:08] <rb007> np
[10:08] <Anubis> can someone tell me how to install and run x server ?
[10:08] <jussi01> rb007: I had a similar prob, try just doing the msrepair
[10:08] <rb007> jussi01: what is msrepair?
[10:09] <jussi01> rb007: when the install starts, it asks you if you want to repair the previous install
[10:09] <jussi01> rb007: or remove or do a new one
[10:09] <Muzik83> rebel: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.15%2Flinux-headers-2.6.15-21-386_2.6.15-21.32_i386.deb&md5sum=c84c7542f25f3c71c86fa8b08e12e04d&arch=i386&type=main
[10:10] <jussi01> I just ran the repair, and it runs lik a dream now :D
[10:10] <rb007> jussi01: thanks, I will try that tomorrow
[10:11] <jussi01> rb007: good luck!!
[10:11] <Muzik83> er those seem to have disappeared
[10:11] <Muzik83> i should have clicked on the links first
[10:11] <slippyr4> anyone know much about root on LVM?
[10:11] <rb007> thanks... goodnight
[10:12] <Anubis> can someone tell me how to install and run x server ?
[10:12] <jussi01> Anubis: why are you trying to run xserver?
[10:12] <slippyr4> anubis, surely you're already running x
[10:12] <jwtod1> anyone know why screensaver works under preview but not when activated when the system is idle?
[10:13] <Anubis> i just installed linux and i want to try those cool effects
[10:13] <arunkumaran> Hello room...
[10:13] <arunkumaran> anyone heard bout the Gmail.pl controversy?
[10:13] <slippyr4> anubis: do you have just text on the screen (like DOS) , or is there a desktop, a bit like windows
[10:13] <Anubis> windows style
[10:13] <arunkumaran> isnt it unfair on google to use it clout to bully ordinary ppl like this....
[10:13] <ivx> arunkunarna, no what happened
[10:14] <jussi01> !offtopic | arunkumaran
[10:14] <ubotu> arunkumaran: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:14] <Anubis> i want to use those effects
[10:14] <Anubis> like transpareny etc
[10:14] <Muzik83> rebel: is a kernel update possible?
[10:14] <arunkumaran> jussi01: sorry man
[10:14] <slippyr4> anubis: you are running X then
[10:15] <UltimateX> Has anyone used Fedora?
[10:15] <jussi01> Anubis: what video card do you have?
[10:15] <Muzik83> Anubis: you are already running X, you want something like Beryl
[10:15] <arunkumaran> ivx: look here :http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070216/tc_afp/polandusitinternet
[10:15] <Anubis> then how do i configure the effect ?
[10:15] <Anubis> i have a GeForce 2 MX
[10:15] <arunkumaran> UltimateX: I have...wats de matter?>
[10:15] <UltimateX> i want to convert over instead of Ubuntu, but just wanna get some opinions on it b4 i do
[10:16] <Muzik83> Anubis: Beryl is the window manager that has all the really neat effects, a really good install is http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[10:16] <Anubis> so Beryl is for those effects ?
[10:16] <rebel> Muzik83: hmm, pnly, why?
[10:16] <rebel> pbly*
[10:16] <CapaH> Anubis: Yes
[10:16] <Anubis> i saw at a friend
[10:16] <Anubis> some very cool effect
[10:16] <Anubis> like blur
[10:16] <Muzik83> rebel: cuz i cant seem to find the sources anywhere i look :s ...it is an older kernel and its usually a good idea to stay current
[10:16] <thcmonkey> grrr i dunno what to use to write my iso to cd.. i can't get to grips with KOnCD
[10:16] <CapaH> Quick question all, How can I see what version of Linux Kernel I have (i.e. 2.6 or such) ? I am runnung Ubuntu Edgy but I need to know the exact version # of the Linux Kernel itself
[10:16] <Anubis> somehow similar to those from Vista
[10:16] <Muzik83> Anubis: yea, blur, rotating cube desktops, wobbly windows, all that is beryl
[10:17] <slippyr4> capah : uname -r
[10:17] <Anubis> 10 x
[10:17] <Muzik83> Anubis: u mean better than vista :p
[10:17] <CapaH> Anubis: I am using Beryl --- it makes Vista look like nothing :) Youtube for Beryl
[10:17] <arunkumaran> thcmonkey: try gnomebaker
[10:17] <jussi01> Anubis: #beryl
[10:17] <slippyr4> capah: why do you need to know, out of interest
[10:17] <CapaH> multiple Rotating cubes / fire effects when you close windows / wobbly windows / etc
[10:17] <arunkumaran> UltimateX: Ubuntu is better than FC in my opinion
[10:17] <thcmonkey> arunkumaran it easy?
[10:17] <jussi01> !beryl
[10:17] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:17] <CapaH> thank you slippyr4
[10:17] <rebel> k Muzik83 i was just doing a kernel update anyways, is there a uber easy ubuntu way of doing it?
[10:17] <tempubun> exit
[10:18] <Muzik83> rebel: apt-get update linux-image
[10:18] <rebel> cool thanks
[10:18] <Muzik83> rebel: but it will require a reboot
[10:18] <arunkumaran> thcmonkey: yup..try to look for some help in the wikis or google...
[10:18] <rebel> not a problem
[10:18] <freakabcd> hi all
[10:19] <freakabcd> does anyone have x.org 7.2 packages for edgy ?
[10:19] <Muzik83> oops
[10:19] <rebel> "E: The update command takes no arguments"
[10:19] <rebel> ..
[10:19] <Muzik83> update does the whole system, forgot about that ... use synpatic
[10:19] <Muzik83> more graphical and easy
[10:19] <Anubis> can i install it from Add/Remove Applications ?
[10:20] <jussi01> Anubis: No, you cant - go and have a look at the link i posted
[10:20] <jussi01> !beryl | Anubis
[10:20] <ubotu> Anubis: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:20] <rebel> i have a athlon 3000+ should i go i686 or k7/k8?
[10:20] <zynergi> k8
[10:21] <ivx> arunkunarna, that does seem messed up, but keep in mind that that news site get hits buy getting people angry and what not. the first thing they teach you in any media class is the more people you make angry and hate you the more money you will make
[10:21] <Muzik83> rebel: while you're in synaptic, grab the linux-headers
[10:21] <Muzik83> for that version
[10:21] <rebel> kk
[10:21] <arunkumaran> ivx: ur right..
[10:21] <kharloss> hi there. i need to install a mail server. AXIGEN is the solution. but first i need to remove my actual mail server Postfix , and other related tools
[10:21] <kharloss> how can i do this ?
[10:22] <ivx> arunkumaran, just look at eminem
[10:22] <ivx> arunkumaran, or however you spell it
[10:22] <Muzik83> kharloss: sudo apt-get remove postfix
[10:22] <arunkumaran> ivx: eminem?...the band?
[10:22] <ivx> arunkumaran, i wouldn't say that, they don't play insturments
[10:23] <kharloss> Muzik83  sudo apt-get remove postfix will remove jst Postfix or everything related software ?
[10:23] <jussi01> !offtopic | ivx
[10:23] <ubotu> ivx: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:23] <Muzik83> kharloss: it will remove related software too, things which depend on postfix ... its a good idea to skim the list to ensure nothing you want is going to be removed
[10:23] <arunkumaran> ivx: lets chat in private...i think v r a hindarance to the support channel
[10:23] <mwe> This question may sound stupid, but is the 'gnome' meta package a sensible package to install if you want to get gnome without all the crap that 'ubuntu-desktop' provides?
[10:24] <ivx> arunkumaran, okay, didn't think it was a big deal :)
[10:26] <slippyr4> mwe: i was asking the same question the other day and couldn't find a reasonably slim meta package. so I went to the ubuntu-desktop package then removed the stuff I didn't want afterwards.
[10:27] <doojin> Does ubuntu have a netinstall image?
[10:27] <CapaH> Does pfctl work for Ubuntu or do I need to use another firewall program?
[10:27] <mwe> slippyr4: yeah. I'm installing 'gnome' now. might do what you did afterwards if I seem to be missing too much stuff
[10:28] <jussi01> CapaH: you dont need firewall for ubuntu - its built in. However Firestarter is th gui
[10:28] <slippyr4> mwe: gdm might be a reasonable bet, too
[10:30] <Yodude> hey how do i ./configure a tar.gz package?
[10:30] <adas> hi all
[10:30] <jwtod1> thoughts as to why my system won't display screen savers but looks fine under preview?
[10:30] <jussi01> !hi | adas
[10:30] <ubotu> adas: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:30] <mwe> By default iptables are not active. It's not nessecary when nothing is listening
[10:31] <adas> jest ktos z polski ?
[10:31] <Al> Hi guys, shall I make the linux partition =?
[10:31] <Flannel> !pl | adas
[10:31] <ubotu> adas: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:31] <mEck0> Hi! Someone using Liferea for RSS-feeds?
[10:31] <Muzik83> Yodude:  first you have to unzip it, do a tar -zxvf package.tar.gz
[10:31] <adas> ok] 
[10:31] <adas>  thx
[10:31] <adas> !pl
[10:31] <jussi01> Yodude: youve got to untar it first - like unzipping, just double click
[10:32] <Al> How big do I need to make the linux partition ?
[10:32] <mEck0> Liferea only fetches the headlines for my feeds, not the hole article-text... How can I fix it? I have checked the preferences but can't find a setting like that :/
[10:32] <Yodude> and where do i unzip it? in /opt?
[10:32] <jussi01> Al: as big as you want, Id reccomend at least 4 gig
[10:32] <Muzik83> Yodude: wherever you want to, commonly in /usr/src or /usr/local/src ...but it really doesnt matter (as long as you can remember it later!)
[10:33] <Amon-san> Al: depends on how many users have access to the system and what you generally want to do with the system
[10:33] <evan_> can anyone help me with a sound problem im having..?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> mEck0: I thought that was what it was meant to do? Only a few feeds will display in the app itself on mine
[10:33] <Amon-san> if no big downloading / storing stuff is involved 8g is fine with plenty free space
[10:34] <seamus7> I get the following error at the very end of my Xorg.0.log file.... "(EE) Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm"   I'm on Edgy with XGL/Beryl on an ATI X1300 card .... anyone have a clue what's going on here??
[10:34] <Yodude> hey you said i untar it first then unzip it?
[10:34] <jussi01> evan_: we need more info than that :D
[10:34] <Al> jussi, Amon-san : I use win right now and wanna swith step by step to linux ... I want to accsess the win partition too, is that possible, if thats an NFTS ?
[10:34] <Yodude> how i do untar? i tried double clicking but it just opens he thing in Archive manager "fileroller"
[10:34] <CapaH> What is the GUI again to Ubuntu firewall? irestarter ?
[10:34] <edlan1> Hi -- I'm trying to get World of Warcraft working under Wine on Ubuntu 6.10. Is anyone able to assist me with this?
[10:34] <Muzik83> Yodude: if its .tar.gz, first you un-gzip it to get it to a .tar, then you untar it to get all the files in side... type tar -zxvf package.tar.gz
[10:34] <evan_> heh Ok im a linux noob just switched over and loving it but... i can run sudo totem and get sound from it... but i cant get sound any other way
[10:35] <CapaH> edlan1: Is that even possible?
[10:35] <CapaH> hey is there a channel devoted purely to Wine ?
[10:35] <Amon-san> Al: sorry never tired that
[10:35] <thoreauputic> Yodude: hit "extract" I think ( I do it on the command line though)
[10:35] <jussi01> Al: download the live cd, then boot it, and see how you go!!
[10:35] <Muzik83> evan_: In System -> administration -> users, select yourself, go to groups, and add yourself to the sound group
[10:35] <edlang_> CapaH: Um, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[10:35] <evan_> ok
[10:35] <mEck0> thoreauputic, I remember when I used Thunderbird for RSS-feeds, it could fetch the whole article-text
[10:35] <evan_> there isnt a group called sound
[10:35] <Yodude> how do i doi extract with the command line?
[10:36] <Muzik83> evan_: Sorry, that last step is go to "User Privaledges"
[10:36] <Muzik83> evan_: and the group is called "Use audio devices"
[10:36] <Al> jussi01: I downloaded it allready and i wanna install it, i wanna be able to listen to my music , which is on my win part. ...
[10:36] <whileimhere> is there a way to save flash videos like off utube?
[10:36] <Yodude> can i do "sudo archive manager /home/youssef/desktop/banshee-0.11.6.tar.gz?
[10:36] <Al> Has to be possible ....
[10:36] <thoreauputic> mEck0: right, well liferea doesn't seem to do that by default - there may be a plugin or something - search in sysnaptic or with apt-cache search perhaps
[10:36] <evan_> ok there isnt sound... but ther is use audio privilages... i checked them all
[10:36] <thoreauputic> *synaptic
[10:36] <Muzik83> Yodude: tar -zxvf banshee-0.11...
[10:36] <seamus7> Anyone know what this error message "(EE) Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm" in my Xorg.0.log file means and how I can resolve it??
[10:36] <mwe> Yodude: to do what?
[10:37] <evan_> theyve all been checked for awhile now tho... ive been googling this for about 2 hours
[10:37] <Muzik83> evan_: er ok
[10:37] <phatrabbit> Muzik83: does linux need to install on FAT32 disk
[10:37] <Muzik83> evan_: what does this show: ls -l /dev/ds*
[10:37] <Yodude> mwe: to extract a tar.gz to /opt
[10:38] <phatrabbit> where can i find a good how to on configuring partions for ubuntu install
[10:38] <tristan_> hi all
[10:38] <Muzik83> phatrabbit: on the contrary, fat32 is probably the worst choice of filesystems ...
[10:38] <mwe> Yodude: cd /opt. then sudo tar zxvf /home/youssef/Desktop/banshee-0.11.6.tar.gz
[10:38] <evan_> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14,  3 2007-02-18 03:25 /dev/dsp
[10:38] <evan_> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 19 2007-02-18 03:25 /dev/dsp1
[10:38] <rebel> reboot -brb
[10:38] <pottie> im having issues with my ventrilo it works perfect except for me not being able to hear them or me talking to them and also there is nothing under line in tab so i cant pick antyhing...... help =(
[10:38] <Muzik83> phatrabbit: sorry read your question wrong (its getting late)
[10:38] <mwe> !gksudo | Yodude
[10:38] <ubotu> Yodude: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[10:38] <daveR> Hi,  I have a mouse with two extra buttons either side of the large click buttons which in windows where used for backwards and forwards on a browser.  how do i get that to happen with linux?
[10:38] <tristan_> I'm trying to use mencoder but when I put vcodec=xvid in the option of lavc it says the codec is not found...
[10:38] <phatrabbit> Muzik83: np
[10:38] <tristan_> What should I do?
[10:39] <scheuri> hi all...anyone know the Asus Barebone V2-P5G965 with intel g965/ICH8? Is the LAN-adapter supported? It is not with 6.06.1...
[10:39] <tristan_> daveR, you have to edit your xorg.conf
[10:39] <phatrabbit> Muzik83:  do u know where i can find a good tut on installing ubuntu on certain partitions
[10:39] <Muzik83> evan_: ok so that is ok
[10:39] <tristan_> Dave123, just wait and I give you the code in pastebin
[10:39] <evan_> ok so Should i in theory have sound?
[10:39] <Yodude> hey i did that "tar -zxvf" command
[10:39] <Yodude> i got some lines
[10:39] <Yodude> then it stopped'what do i do now?
[10:39] <Yodude> i don't know what i did
[10:40] <Muzik83> Yodude: you unzipped that file to the current directory
[10:40] <Muzik83> Yodude: if you do an ls, now you should have a folder similarly named to hte .tar.gz file
[10:40] <Muzik83> Yodude: cd into that folder, and find your ./configure
[10:40] <Trunkz> Morning =D
[10:41] <tristan_> daveR, http://pastebin.ca/361743 there you go
[10:41] <Muzik83> phatrabbit: im not sure of a howto on the partitions, are they already created (and is this a dual boot system?)
[10:41] <evan_> Muzik83: So... should I in theory have soound, because if so i dont..
[10:41] <tristan_> daveR, don't forget to restart X afterwards to make it work
[10:41] <daveR> tristan_ - cheers
[10:41] <Muzik83> evan_: yes, which is rather strange (sorry im getting a bit behind on my reading)
[10:41] <mwe> Yodude: ls /opt. if you did what I said it should have been extracted there
[10:41] <daveR> tristan_ : restarting x, is that just rebooting?
[10:42] <Muzik83> evan_:  if you do groups yourusername, do you see audio in that list?
[10:42] <Trunkz> Yodude: you're still here? xD
[10:42] <Yodude> i can't find that folder!
[10:42] <pottie> so does anyone have an idea on how to fix my vent prob = /
[10:42] <tristan_> daveR, even more simple, ctrl+alt+backspace. It gets you back to the session screen
[10:42] <Yodude> trunkz: i logged in 10 minutes ago
[10:42] <Muzik83> Yodude: it should be in your current directory that you're in now
[10:42] <mwe> Yodude: wht did you do?
[10:42] <Trunkz> Yodude: oh k lol xD
[10:43] <Yodude> well i'm not in any directroy now
[10:43] <evan_> Muzike83: No, Audio isnt listed as an option
[10:43] <Yodude> how do i know the urretn directory?
[10:43] <mwe> Yodude: urretn?
[10:43] <Yodude> mwe: i did "tar -zxvf /home/youssef/Desktop/banshee-0.11.6.tar.gz"
[10:43] <Muzik83> evan_: ok, thats the problem :p...now for a solution, you need to add your username to the "audio" group
[10:43] <mwe> Yodude: after cd /opt?
[10:44] <Yodude> what's "cd /opt"?
[10:44] <Muzik83> evan_: are you *sure* its checked off in that "Settings for <your username>" in the user manager ?
[10:44] <mwe> Yodude: cd means change directory
[10:44] <evan_> Muzik83: Ok and how would one go about adding themselves to the group f one could not simply check the option?
[10:44] <mwe> Yodude: it puts you in /opt
[10:44] <Muzik83> evan_: waitamin, before did you say the option was "not" checked?
[10:44] <Yodude> no /)
[10:45] <mwe> Yodude: you just extracted it somewhere else, probably
[10:45] <evan_> there is no option
[10:45] <mwe> Yodude: yes it does
[10:45] <Yodude> well how can i find out where i exrtaced it?
[10:45] <Muzik83> evan_: sudo nano /etc/group
[10:45] <phatrabbit> great thanks to the dude who told me formatting the drive ubuntu was on would uninstall Ubuntu now my Grub is ******
[10:45] <mwe> Yodude: type pwd
[10:45] <mwe> Yodude: it extracted it there
[10:45] <phatrabbit> and my computer wont start
[10:45] <pottie> anyone with free invite to demoniod pm me
[10:45] <daveR> tristan_ : do i paste this code in the xorg.conf?
[10:45] <Yodude> oh yeah home/youssef
[10:45] <evan_> muzik83: what now?
[10:45] <Muzik83> evan_: should see a line like this: audio:x:29:mitchese,pugflop,mythtv
[10:46] <Muzik83> (with a different username list of course)
[10:46] <freakabcd> anyone here running x.org 7.2 with edgy ?
[10:46] <tristan_> daveR, you should have somewhere in your xorg.conf something about the mouse
[10:46] <Yodude> thnkx i'll move it to /opt
[10:46] <mwe> Yodude: because you didn't type cd /opt first like I told you ;) and sudo tar ... as well
[10:46] <ardchoille> evan_: Are you trying to add an existing user to an existing group?
[10:46] <evan_> Ardchoille: im adding an existing user to a new group - my audio group doesnt exist yes under Sudo i get sound
[10:46] <tristan_> daveR, just paste the part which have tabulation before
[10:46] <Muzik83> ardchoille: apparently use audio devices isnt in evans group list
[10:46] <Yodude> mwe: i listed to muzik83 sorry
[10:47] <tristan_> daveR, you should have somthing like "buttons" "5", you replace by 7 and paste the 2 following lines
[10:47] <thoreauputic> evan_:  sudo adduser evan audio  - then logout- login
[10:48] <evan_> muzik83: There was no line like the one you suggested
[10:48] <Muzik83> thoreauputic: simpler ..thx :)
[10:48] <daveR> tristan_ : ok thanks mate.  but how do i edit the file because you need to be root.  i have to passwords and stuff but it doesn't ask for them.  just says read only.
[10:48] <evan_> oh ty
[10:48] <elias_> !ati
[10:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:48] <scheuri> hi all...how do I find out if the RTL8169(and some letters added) is supported by which kernel?
[10:48] <tristan_> in console do sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:48] <thoreauputic> evan_: make sure you logout -in  with that user to make the change effective
[10:48] <evan_> k
[10:48] <Nitro-Wii> nvidia drivers are in add/remove arn't they?
[10:49] <evan_> Hopefully i wont brb
[10:49] <evan_> :D
[10:49] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:49] <gyaresu> scheuri: I use http://kernel.xc.net
[10:49] <scheuri> gyaresu: thanks...I will have a look
[10:49] <gyaresu> scheuri: np
[10:52] <Yodude> mwe: i moved it to /opt, now what do i do?
[10:52] <arphetic> hi. I upgraded my ubuntu recently from 6.06 to 6.10, but since I upgraded, I cant select the proper screen refresh. I want 1280*1024 (which I have now) at 85 hz, though I can only set it at 60 Hz.
[10:52] <tuvok2812> hella all
[10:52] <tuvok2812> hello
[10:53] <thoreauputic> arphetic: run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   - read the page from ubotu that follows first
[10:53] <thoreauputic> !resolution | arphetic
[10:53] <ubotu> arphetic: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:53] <Muzik83> Yodude: cd /opt/foldername to change into the directory, then do a ./configure
[10:53] <arphetic> I installed the nvidia drivers for my GCard, and it works, but it is the screen that im worried about. It's a IIlyama VisionMaster 400, in 6.06 I manually had to select it from the list of screens cause it wasnt autodetected, but I dont know where to do that in Gnome...
[10:53] <arphetic> I tried those already thoreauputic
[10:54] <mwe> Muzik83: he probably needs build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r), though
[10:54] <thoreauputic> arphetic: you might need to specify your h and v sync rates
[10:54] <Muzik83> mwe: good point
[10:54] <arphetic> I already have
[10:54] <arphetic> It gives 75 hz at 1024*768, so thats ok
[10:54] <thoreauputic> arphetic: then I don't know, sorry
[10:55] <daveR> how do i login to root because i can't do it from the normal login screen?
[10:55] <Muzik83> Yodude: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:56] <rebel> omg.. its working thanks again Muzik83
[10:56] <Muzik83> daveR: Using the root account is generally a bad idea, it is better to use sudo
[10:56] <vduck> or su
[10:57] <Muzik83> np :)
[10:57] <slippyr4> when in the grub shell, is there a way to get it to tell you what disks it regards as hd0 and hd1 etc
[10:57] <Muzik83> daveR: and if you need a persistant root prompt, use sudo -i
[10:57] <arphetic>     HorizSync       27.0 - 96.0
[10:57] <arphetic>     VertRefresh     50.0 - 160.0
[10:57] <arphetic> this is in my xorg.conf file @ hz
[10:57] <daveR> Muzik83: i am trying to edit xorg.conf file. can i do that through sudo?
[10:57] <arphetic> daveR: yes
[10:57] <arphetic> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:57] <Muzik83> daveR: from a command prompt, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.cofn
[10:58] <ardchoille> !gksudo | arphetic
[10:58] <ubotu> arphetic: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[10:58] <Muzik83> daveR: only with conf spelled correctly :s
[10:58] <rylan> hello all
[10:58] <arphetic> okey :)
[10:58] <rylan> sometimes my sound doesnt work.
[10:58] <daveR> Muzik83, sweet, thanks
[10:58] <arphetic> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:59] <rylan> especially if the computer has been running for a while
[11:00] <Diana> http://www.addict.66ghz.com/ Click the Adsense ads and help me buy a laptop
[11:02] <Yodude> Muzik83: i did "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[11:02] <Muzik83> ok
[11:02] <Alexstrasza> hello lovely people
[11:02] <daveR> i have nearly config ubuntu to how i want it apart from one this.  i have two screens, each with different resolutions.  how to do sort it out so i have dual screens working on them?  i searched the help area but couldn't see anything.
[11:02] <vduck> does ext3 filesystems need to be defragged?
[11:02] <Alexstrasza> I tried to add mplayer but its not listed, what should i do?
[11:03] <Muzik83> vduck: not really no
[11:03] <vduck> ok, good to know
[11:03] <arphetic> Ok, I have my screen at 75 hz now, better then it was, but I want it at 85:<
[11:03] <ardchoille> Alexstrasza: You want to install mplayer?
[11:03] <Muzik83> Yodude: are you in /opt/thatfolderthatyouunzipped ?
[11:03] <slippyr4> arphetic: why do you want 85? that is interlaced
[11:04] <Alexstrasza> ardchoille yes I do
[11:04] <arphetic> slippyr4: thats the best rate for my screen at this resolution] 
[11:04] <ardchoille> Alexstrasza: mplayer is in multiverse, enable multiverse and sudo apt-get install mplayer
[11:05] <freakabcd> so i guess X.org 7.2 official packages will NOT be available for edgy?
[11:05] <Alexstrasza> ardchoille, what is the program that allows me to do remote desktop?
[11:05] <Alexstrasza> rdp
[11:05] <ardchoille> Alexstrasza: No idea
[11:05] <freakabcd> Alexstrasza, you talking about vnc ?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> AlexLatchford:  Internet - terminal Server
[11:06] <Muzik83> Alexstrasza: try tsclient
[11:06] <freakabcd> !vnc
[11:06] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:06] <Alexstrasza> freakabcd no, windows TDP
[11:06] <Alexstrasza> RDP*
[11:06] <Alexstrasza> !RDP
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <thoreauputic> tsclient is the remote desktop - it's in the menu as terminal server client
[11:06] <Muzik83> Alexstrasza: VNC is better, but if you need RDP tsclient has an RDP option in it ....never used it myself ... its in Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server client
[11:07] <Spee_Der> It works very nicely.
[11:07] <Alexstrasza> thanks
[11:07] <Muzik83> Yodude: are you around still?
[11:07] <Alexstrasza> Spee_Der thank you
[11:07] <Spee_Der> Alexstrasza, just be patient with it is all. It takes a little getting used to, but it works nice.
[11:07] <Spee_Der> Welcome.
[11:07] <evan_> Bah... Sound works with Totem without issuing Sudo but Now Cedega wont display the sound as working... it fails the oss and alsa tests?
[11:08] <Alexstrasza> Spee_Der Thanks
[11:08] <evan_> And also, it only works with Totem -Banshee cant play sound either
[11:09] <evan_> ok...update cedega passes the tests but no sound is heard?
[11:10] <Yodude> Muzik: sorry i was doing something
[11:10] <Yodude> Muzik83: i was doing something sorry
[11:10] <samiam010203> hello all this am :)
[11:10] <Muzik83> Yodude: ok...
[11:10] <Muzik83> Yodude: where are you at ... are you in the right directory?
[11:10] <Yodude> Muzik83: i'm in the terminal in the folder i unzipped
[11:10] <Muzik83> ok
[11:10] <Yodude> yes
[11:11] <Muzik83> try a ./configure
[11:11] <Antonio_Carlos_M> hello
[11:11] <Yodude> k
[11:11] <Muzik83> cross your fingers ^^
[11:11] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i'm new to linux
[11:11] <Antonio_Carlos_M> and i need some serious help
[11:11] <Antonio_Carlos_M> it looks like i broke something
[11:11] <samiam010203> what wrong Carlos
[11:11] <Muzik83> Antonio_Carlos_M, what did ya break? :)
[11:11] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i cant update system
[11:11] <Antonio_Carlos_M> and synaptic doesnt show anything
[11:11] <samiam010203> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:11] <Muzik83> evan_: im not sure about that, is alsa running ?  Should it be running?
[11:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> look
[11:12] <Yodude> Muzik83: i got a whole bunch of lines
[11:12] <Muzik83> ok
[11:12] <Yodude> Muzik83: now what?
[11:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> E: Type lmth.xedni/ofni is not known on line 47 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[11:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> Go to the repository dialogue to correct the problem.
[11:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> thats the message
[11:12] <samiam010203> did you delete your sources.list
[11:12] <Muzik83> Yodude: were the last lines something like "Creating config.status" or something close to that, mentioning creating and config?
[11:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> what do i do
[11:12] <evan_> Muzik83: umm yea ALSA is running and i suppose it should be running becuz i chose it as my sound device
[11:12] <samiam010203> go to /etc/apt/
[11:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> how?
[11:12] <samiam010203> and see your sources.list file is there
[11:13] <Yodude> yes wait
[11:13] <evan_> muzik83: wouldnt make sense to choose it and then not run it?
[11:13] <lulemurfan> Can some tell me why i've baned from accessing #edubuntu
[11:13] <samiam010203> open your home folder and navigate to /etc/apt/
[11:13] <Muzik83> evan_: some have it installed but use oss or something else (and dont run it) :p
[11:13] <lulemurfan> :'(
[11:13] <NightCircle> Don't make a sad smiley just because I connected >.>
[11:13] <evan_> muzik83: well this problem actually goes beyond cedega because banshee wont play sound either..
[11:13] <daveR> i have nearly config ubuntu to how i want it apart from one this.  i have two screens, each with different resolutions.  how to do sort it out so i have dual screens working on them?  i searched the help area but couldn't see anything. any docs or help would be much appreciated :)
[11:14] <Antonio_Carlos_M> what do i do nexts
[11:14] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ?
[11:14] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i'm in that folder
[11:14] <samiam010203> do you see your sources.list file in there
[11:14] <lulemurfan> Can some tell me why i've baned from accessing #edubuntu
[11:14] <scheuri> firephoto: hi there...remember? I am the guy with the jmicron problem about three days ago?
[11:14] <evan_> no
[11:15] <Antonio_Carlos_M> yeah
[11:15] <Yodude> Muzik83: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6344/
[11:15] <Antonio_Carlos_M> sources.list.save and sources.list
[11:15] <Alexstrasza> yes TSClient is much better than KDE RDP
[11:15] <samiam010203> ok open it up and make sure all the repos in it dont have # infront of the name
[11:15] <evan_> Anyone have any ideas as to why The only program i can get sound squeezed out of is Totem?
[11:15] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ok
[11:15] <Antonio_Carlos_M> but
[11:15] <Antonio_Carlos_M> what file
[11:15] <willskills> Good morning folks, I need some help getting recording to work on my mic, I am willing to pay over paypal, as I have been ****ing around with this for two months and no joy!
[11:15] <Antonio_Carlos_M> sources.list.save
[11:15] <samiam010203> sources.list
[11:15] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ok
[11:15] <samiam010203> oh, do you have hidden files turened on?
[11:16] <willskills> ctrl+h
[11:16] <elias__> Im tying to install the ati driver. When I write fglrxinfo i get Open GL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org, OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Inderect. Anyone know what to do?
[11:16] <Antonio_Carlos_M> no
[11:16] <scheuri> willskills: I guess it would be helpful if you used pastebin to paste some infos like Version of Alsa, OSS, Ubuntu, what software and even more important the exact hardware and chipset you are using
[11:16] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i dont think so
[11:16] <samiam010203> turn on the right to view hidden files
[11:16] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ok
[11:16] <willskills> scheuri, ok - 1 minutew
[11:16] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i did
[11:16] <scheuri> willskills: sure enough
[11:17] <samiam010203> or just do an sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:17] <evan_> yes
[11:17] <samiam010203> from the command line
[11:17] <Yodude> Muzik83: so what happanened?
[11:17] <Muzik83> Yodude: just checkin
[11:17] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ok
[11:17] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i tryed to delite
[11:17] <samiam010203> now is the file open
[11:18] <paolo> Hi everyone. I just installed Ubuntu on an ASUS V1JP and while there was sound from the live cd, the hard disc install does not produce any sound. Any suggestions?
[11:18] <Antonio_Carlos_M> the problematic file
[11:18] <samiam010203> no you dont want to delete that file
[11:18] <sergo_> hi!
[11:18] <Antonio_Carlos_M> but i dont have the promission
[11:18] <Antonio_Carlos_M> well
[11:18] <sergo_> anybody knows how to connect evolution to egroupware?
[11:18] <samiam010203> you have to input your password to open the file
[11:18] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i entered something
[11:18] <Muzik83> Yodude: the problem is, your gcc cant create executables: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables ... im just looking into what this means, as i've never seen it before
[11:18] <Antonio_Carlos_M> and it broke
[11:18] <Antonio_Carlos_M> synaptic
[11:18] <samiam010203> r u in the terminal
[11:18] <lulemurfan> Can some tell me why i've baned from accessing #edubuntu
[11:18] <Antonio_Carlos_M> and update manager
[11:18] <samiam010203> no go to the terminal
[11:18] <hdxx> elias__: do you have direct rendeing "yes" ?
[11:18] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ?
[11:19] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ok
[11:19] <samiam010203> in your gnome menu go to accessorys and open the terminal
[11:19] <elias__> hdxx, nope
[11:19] <Antonio_Carlos_M> kk
[11:19] <Antonio_Carlos_M> did it
[11:19] <samiam010203> now type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" withjout the wquetes
[11:19] <hdxx> elias__: i have one wiki how ot isntall ati drivers, wait
[11:19] <Antonio_Carlos_M> kk
[11:20] <samiam010203> and when it asks for the p/w intput yours
[11:20] <elias__> !ati
[11:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:20] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ok
[11:20] <Antonio_Carlos_M> done it
[11:20] <Yodude> Muzik83: what is gcc? that compiler i just downloaded?
[11:20] <samiam010203> now the sources.list should open
[11:20] <ernz> Hi - I am having problems with something called glx. I am running Ubuntu Edgy. Now apps I used to use on dapper aren't working like Armagetron, and I even tried to install beryl, and even that complains about glx.
[11:20] <elias__> hdxx, I did the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI one
[11:20] <Muzik83> Yodude: ya gcc is a compile which comes with build-essential... what are you trying to compile, and what processor do you have?
[11:20] <Antonio_Carlos_M> heh
[11:20] <samiam010203> now ., carlos which ubuntu version are you using
[11:20] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i fixed it
[11:20] <Antonio_Carlos_M> :D
[11:20] <Antonio_Carlos_M> tnx
[11:20] <samiam010203> ok
[11:20] <Antonio_Carlos_M> 6.06
[11:21] <willskills> ernz, you need gfx card drivers - apt-get! :)
[11:21] <hdxx> elias__: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[11:21] <Antonio_Carlos_M> few more questions
[11:21] <Yodude> Muzik83: lol you know..i extraced a tar.gz to a folder
[11:21] <willskills> if you have an nvidia card, drivers are in the repos
[11:21] <ernz> willskills: i am using nvidia drivers already
[11:21] <samiam010203> yes
[11:21] <GNUtoo2> hello,how do i compile an external kernel module(kqemu)...it fails
[11:21] <Yodude> Muzik83: i changed directory to the folder
[11:21] <Muzik83> Yodude: but i have short term memory worse than a goldfish... what is the name of the software which you are *trying* to use?
[11:21] <Yodude> Muzik83: and now i need to do something to turn this folder into a working program
[11:21] <Antonio_Carlos_M> can u tell me some repositories that contain games and etc?
[11:22] <Yodude> Banshee
[11:22] <samiam010203> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:22] <samiam010203> there you go
[11:22] <Antonio_Carlos_M> tnx!
[11:22] <Yodude> i couldn't find the newer version in the repo so i download it from Softpedia
[11:22] <samiam010203> no problems
[11:22] <Antonio_Carlos_M> btw
[11:22] <samiam010203> yes
[11:22] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i like linux a lot
[11:22] <Antonio_Carlos_M> you can fix anything
[11:22] <samiam010203> yesso do i and everyone els here hahaha
[11:22] <Antonio_Carlos_M> and everything you brake
[11:23] <GNUtoo2> my error looks like this: http://www.pastebin.ca/361778
[11:23] <Antonio_Carlos_M> hehe
[11:23] <Antonio_Carlos_M> any repositories in specific that contain games?
[11:24] <sergo_> Antonio, did you fix anything?
[11:24] <Muzik83> Yodude: do you happen to have an amd64 processor?
[11:24] <Antonio_Carlos_M> yeah
[11:24] <Antonio_Carlos_M> everything is working
[11:24] <samiam010203> check int hefuroms i know there was a project with games at one opint
[11:24] <GNUtoo2> the kernel used is linux-headers-2.6.15-28
[11:24] <brann> hello. can someone help me installing rar? i have the multiverse/universe repositories, i've done an update, but apt says me that "Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[11:24] <Yodude> Muzik83: no Intel
[11:24] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ok
[11:24] <hdxx> brann: sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[11:24] <Muzik83> Yodude: ok lots of the problems im seeing happen with 64bit processors
[11:25] <Antonio_Carlos_M> and another problem
[11:25] <Yodude> hey i went to synaptic and searched for "build-essential" and it's not installed!!!!!!!!!
[11:25] <Antonio_Carlos_M> with my TV Card
[11:25] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i use KDEtv
[11:25] <Yodude> no 32bit
[11:25] <Muzik83> ya ok
[11:25] <Muzik83> i was just checking
[11:25] <Antonio_Carlos_M> and it finds all the programs
[11:25] <Muzik83> really...hmm thats strange
[11:25] <Antonio_Carlos_M> but some of them have no sound
[11:25] <Antonio_Carlos_M> while other
[11:25] <Muzik83> install it :p
[11:25] <GNUtoo2> Antonio_Carlos_M:you can compile games frol sources and make an upgradable and uninstallable package with checkinstall
[11:25] <brann> hdxx,  : that's what i did. it keeps telling me that Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:25] <Yodude> man the command u gave me earlier doesn't install it
[11:25] <Antonio_Carlos_M> work perfectly
[11:25] <Yodude> i'm gonna do it the graphical way
[11:26] <Frogzoo> GNUtoo2: which distro you running?
[11:26] <Muzik83> brann: rar is a proprietary closed source thing, you need to get it from the rarlabs website
[11:26] <GNUtoo2> Frogzoo:dapper drake
[11:26] <brann> Muzik83, ok. i thought it was available from the multiverse repository
[11:26] <scheuri> Yodude: "sudo aptitude install build-essential" does not work?
[11:27] <Muzik83> brann: it may be actually, try apt-get install unrar-free
[11:27] <GNUtoo2> Frogzoo:in edgy eft i installed kqemu easely
[11:27] <Antonio_Carlos_M> so
[11:27] <Muzik83> brann: (just did a search of my stuff and found that)
[11:27] <Antonio_Carlos_M> can someone help me with my TB problem here?
[11:27] <Antonio_Carlos_M> TV"
[11:27] <elias_> hdxx, thanks :D
[11:27] <samiam010203> whats wrong with the tv?
[11:27] <sergo_> 
[11:28] <Antonio_Carlos_M> some chanels have no sound
[11:28] <Antonio_Carlos_M> while other do
[11:28] <thcmonkey> back on xp :D
[11:28] <thcmonkey> lol
[11:28] <hdxx> elias_: you're welcome
[11:28] <thcmonkey> but not for long
[11:28] <brann> Muzik83,  thanks... a lot of tutorials on internet told to install rar so I stupidly tried to follow them...
[11:28] <samiam010203> i dont know about tv's
[11:28] <hdxx> brann: in my repositors is rar
[11:28] <Muzik83> brann: ya i installed rar from the rarlabs site :p
[11:28] <thcmonkey> writing the image to disk on rh8 was proving to much of a mission
[11:28] <Antonio_Carlos_M> tnx anuway
[11:28] <samiam010203> try calling the cable company
[11:28] <thcmonkey> my install was so short of packaged it was quicker to just format and install windows
[11:29] <thcmonkey> packages*
[11:29] <GNUtoo2> Frogzoo:what should do for qemu?
[11:29] <GNUtoo2> oops
[11:29] <GNUtoo2> Frogzoo:what should do for kqemu?
[11:29] <brann> hdxx, maybe it's because i'm using french repositories
[11:29] <doojin> How can I wrtie an iso file to a usb memory stick?
[11:30] <Frogzoo> GNUtoo2: dunno, if the provided makefiles won't compile, not much you can do
[11:30] <hdxx> brann: i can past you my repo. if you want
[11:30] <thcmonkey> doojin, you got a 1meg card?
[11:30] <thcmonkey> stick*
[11:30] <tristan_> doojin, you can mount the iso file and copy what's inside on the USB
[11:30] <doojin> thcmonkey : I got 512MB stick
[11:30] <daveR> hi, i want dual screens on my pc.  both screen have different resolutions and i have a nvidia graphics card.  i followed this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773584.  but didn't do anything.  can anyone help?
[11:30] <brann> hdxx, yes please
[11:30] <thcmonkey> what iso you trying to write to it doojin?
[11:31] <crazy_bus> :( kubuntu is still losing system files
[11:31] <doojin> ubuntu netboot iso
[11:31] <lulemurfan> THATS IT YOUR BLOCKED
[11:31] <lulemurfan> soory
[11:31] <doojin> I just copied it, but it doesn't work
[11:31] <thcmonkey> ah right.. i was gonna say. but if it's that small there'll be no probs
[11:31] <thcmonkey> [10:30]  <tristan_> doojin, you can mount the iso file and copy what's inside on the USB
[11:31] <lulemurfan> Can some tell me why i've baned from accessing #edubuntu
[11:31] <GNUtoo2> Frogzoo: no it's an ubuntu error because he says /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: no files or folder of this type
[11:31] <doojin> thcmonkey : I must have a program for copying the boot data
[11:32] <thcmonkey> you on ubuntu right now?
[11:32] <mackinac> lulemurfan:  ask freenet staff ?
[11:32] <doojin> thcmonkey : on windows now
[11:32] <hdxx> brann: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6345/
[11:32] <thcmonkey> god then that's even easier
[11:32] <thcmonkey> plug usb stick in
[11:32] <thcmonkey> drag and drop
[11:32] <brann> hdxx,  thx
[11:32] <tempubun> hi all any ubuntu-ppc'ers here?
[11:32] <thcmonkey> or you want it on there as an image?
[11:32] <scheuri> what was the command again to get all modules loaded on CLI?
[11:33] <doojin> thcmonkey : you never booted with a usb stick
[11:33] <Muzik83> scheuri: lsmod
[11:33] <scheuri> ahhhhh
[11:33] <thcmonkey> nope :D
[11:33] <scheuri> thanks
[11:33] <doojin> thcmonkey : that doesn't work, I tried
[11:33] <goundy> Morning
[11:33] <GNUtoo2> Frogzoo: but i have modpost.c in my kernel directory
[11:33] <lulemurfan> how do you speak to a freenet staff
[11:34] <goundy> I've a question, do you think it's a good choice to stay on Ubuntu dapper ?
[11:34] <mackinac> join #freenet
[11:34] <_Jonathan_> goundy: yes
[11:34] <hdxx> goundy: yes
[11:34] <goundy> ok ok :P
[11:34] <goundy> rox
[11:34] <goundy> thanks guys
[11:35] <goundy> before i'had Kubuntu edgy 64, it suxed :/
[11:35] <thcmonkey> doojin: http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch04s03.html
[11:35] <willskills> Hello folks, I am looking for some help getting sound recording to work; any experts here? Some output for you; http://pastebin.com/883560
[11:35] <thcmonkey> dunno, that might help mate
[11:36] <hdxx> goundy: kubuntu is buggy :)
[11:36] <thcmonkey> although doojin that for doing it on linux
[11:36] <goundy> Yeah dapper's better :] 
[11:37] <Muzik83> willskills: have you checked the mute, both in the obvious place next to the clock, and the hidden one in alsa-mixer ?
[11:38] <betatux> Question: What's a good Podcast Client ?
[11:38] <willskills> Muzik83, yes
[11:38] <_Jonathan_> I'm newbie to IRC and I've just registered, may I test pm on someone?
[11:38] <thcmonkey> doojin: it help?
[11:39] <thomas_> _Jonathan_:  :)
[11:39] <tempubun> betatux: penguinTV
[11:39] <betatux> thanks
[11:40] <brann> hdxx,  still no luck. maybe it's because in france.. anyway i'll get the tarball from rarlabs and install it by myself. thx for your help
[11:40] <mEck0> I wonder if there is a setting in Liferea which automatically deletes feeds which has been read?
[11:40] <hdxx> brann: did you write sudo apt-get update
[11:40] <Ryiel> hey
[11:41] <mackinac> lulemurfan:  my mistake, that should be #freenode
[11:41] <Muzik83> willskills: you may want to add cat /proc/asound/devices to your pastebin
[11:41] <brann> hdxx, of course. but i finally found it's unrar and not rar
[11:41] <brann> hdxx, working fine now... strange, i tried it before, and it didnt work...
[11:42] <hdxx> :)
[11:42] <tempubun> any ubuntu-ppc'ers here?
[11:43] <willskills> Muzik83, - http://pastebin.com/883563
[11:43] <Chousuke> tempubun: I was, for a while
[11:43] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[11:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:43] <tempubun> Chousuke: i am not able to start X ubuntu-6.10-ppc on a G3 iBook ATI rage m3
[11:44] <Chousuke> hmm :/
[11:44] <tempubun> and there is very little info on it
[11:44] <Chousuke> Well, your best bet is to take a look at X.org's logs and start figuring out what's wrong.
[11:44] <lulemurfan> I need help
[11:44] <lulemurfan> Can some tell me why i've baned from accessing #edubuntu
[11:44] <elias_> !DiskMounter
[11:44] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[11:45] <Phat32> What is an alternative to "dhcpcd" or "pump -i eth0"
[11:45] <tempubun> Chousuke: i have 1 x (WW) and 2 x (EE) to do with the Rage 128 IO configs
[11:45] <cox377> 've got this issue when connecting to a ubuntu samba share. basically when i connect frtom a windows machine it asks for user name and password giving me full read/write access however when i connect from another linx machine it goes straight in on the files but i can only read. how do i make it ask me for the user and pass like it does in windows?
[11:45] <Chousuke> tempubun: well, then you need to solve those :P
[11:46] <Chousuke> at least the errors.
[11:46] <Muzik83> willskills: ok next what about ls -l /dev/snd
[11:46] <Phat32> I have ubuntu running on a virtual machine and everything seems to be alright but doesn't have an IP...
[11:46] <tahsin> hi
[11:46] <tahsin> can any1 help me
[11:46] <mackinac> !ask
[11:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:46] <tahsin> how do i install internet explorer?
[11:47] <mackinac> again?
[11:47] <tahsin> how do i install internet explorer?
[11:47] <Phat32> Can anyone tell me a command that will cause ubuntu to request an IP from my dhcp enabled router?
[11:47] <gortba_> Hi everyone. Does anyone know if there is a place to put up a web page for FREE?
[11:47] <mackinac> troll elsewhere
[11:47] <tahsin> INTERNET EXPLORER?
[11:48] <cox377> mackinac: haha
[11:48] <gortba_> I have my own html file--just need the webspace
[11:48] <cox377> mackinac: what a joker
[11:48] <Phat32> tahsin: they don't make internet explorer for linux
[11:48] <eltese> tahsin: Use wine. Emulate it.. easy enough =)
[11:48] <willskills> gortba_, many free hosting sites - try google ;)
[11:48] <tahsin> cant i run it with wine?
[11:48] <willskills> yes you can
[11:48] <eltese> yeah
[11:48] <eltese> you can
[11:48] <tahsin> i have installed wine
[11:48] <Phat32> tahsin: yes you can
[11:48] <tahsin> but how does it work?
[11:49] <eltese> wine?
[11:49] <willskills> quite simply
[11:49] <tahsin> YES! WINE
[11:49] <chavo> tahsin, http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page this is a script that will help you install IE in linux using wine
[11:49] <willskills> !wine
[11:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:49] <coNP> !ie4linux
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ie4linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <legolaswood> hi
[11:49] <legolaswood> Hi
[11:49] <Phat32> tahsin: http://www.rubyrailways.com/install-internet-explorer-on-ubuntu-dapper-in-3-easy-steps/
[11:49] <eltese> !vmware
[11:49] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[11:49] <coNP> tahsin: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[11:49] <legolaswood> I have some basic questions about ubuntu.
[11:49] <tahsin> thanks
[11:49] <coNP> !ask | legolaswood
[11:49] <ubotu> legolaswood: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:49] <Phat32> Can anyone tell me a command that will cause ubuntu to request an IP from my dhcp enabled router?
[11:49] <legolaswood> does ubuntu provide autoupdate feature like Suse 10.2 ?
[11:50] <peegy> can anyone help me setting up a vpn connectionon ubuntu edgy?
[11:50] <coNP> legolaswood: yes, kind of
[11:50] <Phat32> legolaswood, yes it does
[11:50] <coNP> Phat32: dhclient
[11:50] <coNP> Phat32: or set it to automatic / dhcp
[11:50] <legolaswood> is there a built in support for 3d desktop features?
[11:50] <Phat32> well I think it is set to use dhcp but I didn't make the vm image so who know
[11:50] <Phat32> knows*
[11:51] <willskills> Phat32, just a little tip, avoid DHCP if your network has windows & *nix boxes
[11:51] <willskills> samba doesnt like dhcp much :] 
[11:51] <Alexstrasza> does UBUNTU support TV cards?
[11:52] <tahsin> i have downloaded KDE but how do i work with it?
[11:52] <tahsin> i have also installed KDE
[11:52] <Phat32> willskills, I have been using dhcp with both types for years
[11:52] <Muzik83> Alexstrasza: depends on the TV card...
[11:53] <coNP> tahsin: do you installed ubuntu and now you installed the kubuntu-desktop package? or what?
[11:53] <Phat32> coNP, it says No DHCPOFFERS recieved
[11:53] <Phat32> any ideas?
[11:53] <legolaswood> what about ubuntu installer? is it easy enough for a linux newbie to install it in a multi hard drive computer?
[11:54] <coNP> Phat32: try to wireshark the interface (that is a network traffic analyzation tool)
[11:54] <legolaswood> I have installed FEDORA and suse with no problem but i never tried ubunto.
[11:54] <willskills> legolaswood, yes
[11:54] <Phat32> legolaswood, it's easier than suse
[11:54] <coNP> ! wireshark | Phat32
[11:54] <tahsin> i am using ubuntu and i hv installed KDE package
[11:54] <ubotu> phat32: wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 545 kB, installed size 1528 kB
[11:54] <willskills> it's very very easy
[11:54] <Alexstrasza> Muzik83 I have an AVerTV DVB external usb digital TV, but they do not have a linux driver nor TV program, what should I do?
[11:54] <Phat32> coNP, it's vmware. it uses a virtual nic
[11:54] <coNP> Phat32: oh, sorry :)
[11:54] <ardchoille> willskills: My 8 year old niece did it:)
[11:54] <gortba_> willskills: I tried google for free webhosting. They all cost something or another.
[11:54] <coNP> Phat32: I missed the first part I guess :)
[11:55] <coNP> Phat32: vmware server / player / ... ?
[11:55] <gortba_> willskills: Do you know of one in particular?
[11:55] <legolaswood> willskill, Is there a DVD iso available for download?
[11:55] <willskills> yes legolaswood
[11:55] <Phat32> vmware workstation
[11:55] <Phat32> basically using player
[11:55] <|thunder> could someone please tell me why edgy is so stubborn when trying to build an app. Always say this .so and that .so is missing, yet it is always there, and always linked to the proper version. I even added /usr/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and ran ldconfig, and still nada. I dont get it. help
[11:55] <coNP> gortba_: e.g. google itself offers free webhosting, if I am not wrong
[11:55] <willskills> gortba_, no, my friends run a hosting company, I get mine free from them, sorry
[11:55] <legolaswood> i can not find it in ubuntu web site.
[11:55] <n1gke> cool it works !
[11:56] <Phat32> |thunder, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:56] <_Jonathan_> coNP: really?
[11:56] <gortba_> willskills: Thanks
[11:56] <coNP> _Jonathan_: really what ?:)
[11:56] <tahsin> i have installed flightgear and dont know how to open or run it
[11:56] <gortba_> coNP: Do you know if the google one let you upload your own HTML file?
[11:56] <|thunder> Phat32; thanks, but this is way beyond that. I have all the proper build tools. The libs are all there, just wont find them.
[11:56] <thoreauputic> |thunder: you need the -dev packages
[11:56] <willskills> legolaswood, I just PM'd you.......
[11:57] <Muzik83> Alexstrasza: Most often "they" dont have anything for linux, but Linux makes up for it... I believe you can use it with linux, because there is stuff found on Google that says it can be convinced to work
[11:57] <Phat32> |thunder, is it maybe a problem with a path somewhere?
[11:57] <thoreauputic> |thunder: ./configure means dev packages, not the standard ones you already have
[11:57] <_Jonathan_> coNP: you said "e.g. google itself offers free webhosting, if I am not wrong"
[11:58] <|thunder> thoreauputic; hmm. lemme have a look. thanks
[11:58] <Muzik83> Alexstrasza: what does lsusb show when the thing is plugged in
[11:58] <tahsin> can anyone help me with flight gear
[11:58] <coNP> _Jonathan_: not that I would recommand that, but have a look at http://googlepages.com/
[11:58] <Thug-N-Me> hi all
[11:58] <tahsin> i have installed it but dont know how to open it
[11:58] <_Jonathan_> coNP: thank u
[11:59] <Thug-N-Me> how do i mount network folder ? the second machine its ubuntu too ?
[11:59] <GNUtoo2> mabe for kqemu i need to compile the kernel first
[11:59] <GNUtoo2> but i don't know where is debian/config/i386/
[11:59] <evan__> Ok i think i need help setting up ALSA... I can only play sound through TOTEM and the system itself wont make sounds such as login and logout noises...help appreciated.
[11:59] <coNP> GNUtoo2: I guess you should apt-get kernel-source-<proper version> first
[11:59] <coNP> GNUtoo2: sorry, 'apt-get source kernel-source...'
[12:00] <tahsin> can any 1 help me with flight gear
[12:00] <tahsin> how do i run flight gear
[12:00] <mwe> does anyone know a free tool that can convert pdf files to jpg files?
[12:00] <evan__> Ok i think i need help setting up ALSA... I can only play sound through TOTEM and the system itself wont make sounds such as login and logout noises...help appreciated
[12:00] <thoreauputic> |thunder:  the command   sudoa apt-get build-dep <package>   will pull in the -dev packages automatically if what you are building is in Ubuntu already
[12:01] <GNUtoo2> coNP/ ok thanks
[12:01] <willskills> mwe, yes, in windows
[12:01] <willskills> not sure about linux
[12:01] <willskills> but PDF creator
[12:01] <thoreauputic> mwe: possibly the "convert" command in the imagemagick package
[12:01] <tahsin> how do i open flight gear
[12:01] <willskills> will do pdf - kpg/png/etc/etc and the other way too
[12:01] <evan__> Ok i think i need help setting up ALSA... I can only play sound through TOTEM and the system itself wont make sounds such as login and logout noises...help appreciated
[12:01] <thoreauputic> !info imagemagick
[12:01] <evan__> anyone have any ideas
[12:01] <ubotu> imagemagick: Image manipulation programs. In component main, is optional. Version 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-0.10ubuntu0.2 (edgy), package size 724 kB, installed size 3168 kB
[12:01] <|thunder> thoreauputic; you were absolutly correct. i was missing the -dev packages
[12:02] <Thug-N-Me> how do i mount network folder ? the other machine on the network its ubuntu too so there is no need for samba .. ?
[12:02] <|thunder> thoreauputic; thanks a million
[12:02] <thoreauputic> |thunder: bitter experience :)
[12:02] <Yodude> Muzik83: ok i downloaded "build"essential"
[12:02] <evan__> Ok i think i need help setting up ALSA... I can only play sound through TOTEM and the system itself wont make sounds such as login and logout noises...help appreciated
[12:02] <Yodude> Muzik83: and i did "./configure"
[12:02] <Yodude> Muzik83: now what?
[12:02] <willskills> evan__, Sys>Pref>Sound
[12:02] <willskills> ESD is on?
[12:03] <Muzik83> Yodude: did your configure end in that line that mentions "creating config.status" (not necesarily config.status, but config.somethign)
[12:03] <mwe> thoreauputic: thanks. it worked. The quality is not too great, though. Maybe you can speify the quality. Reading ...
[12:03] <thoreauputic> Thug-N-Me:  install nfs-kernel-server
[12:03] <evan__> willskills: yes esd is on
[12:03] <willskills> hmm
[12:03] <tahsin> i have installed KDE but how do i use it?
[12:03] <willskills> tahsin, when you start Ubuntu
[12:03] <willskills> before you log in
[12:03] <thoreauputic> mwe: ah - haven't tried it myself, but yes , the man pages might help
[12:03] <willskills> change sessionb
[12:03] <Muzik83> tahsin: log out, then on the login screen select "Choose session"
[12:03] <willskills> -b
[12:04] <tahsin> i did that
[12:04] <tahsin> but i didnt see any KDE option
[12:04] <evan__> reboot
[12:04] <Muzik83> nah
[12:04] <eltese> Does anyone know if vmWare supports .iso? So I dont have to burn it to a CD, mount the CD and then install the OS?
[12:04] <Muzik83> reboot wont fix that (i doubt)
[12:04] <evan__> Vmware will support iso
[12:04] <eltese> perfect =)
[12:05] <evan__> Well... it fixed it for me but maybe he just has it configured wrong?
[12:05] <Muzik83> ok
[12:05] <Arcad3> hi i have a prob...
[12:05] <eltese> Nothing bad comes off a reboot =)
[12:05] <evan__> as do all of us :D
[12:05] <Muzik83> if it worked for you then its worth a shot...but its always (and should be) after a log out it just works (TM)
[12:05] <mattude> I'm trying to connect to my Ubuntu computer through my win98 laptop - it finds it just fine but it asks me for a password and I've try every passwaord I ever used in Ubuntu all to no avail - does anyone know what I might be doing wrong
[12:05] <_Jonathan_> coNP: thanks, it works fine, only a bit slow
[12:05] <Muzik83> but then again, in about 12 hours my computer will have been on for 100 days :D
[12:05] <evan__> lol
[12:06] <tahsin> ixme:advapi:DecryptFileA "C:\\windows\\temp\\IXP001.TMP\\" 00000000
[12:06] <tahsin> fixme:advpack:NeedReboot (0): stub
[12:06] <tahsin> err:storage:Storage32Impl_SmallBlocksToBigBlocks conversion failed: resRead = 0x8003001e, resWrite = 0x00000000
[12:06] <tahsin> fixme:wininet:CommitUrlCacheEntryInternal entry already in cache - don't know what to do!
[12:06] <tahsin> fixme:wininet:FindFirstUrlCacheEntryA ("Z:\\home\\tahsin\\Desktop\\ie6setup.exe", 0x199c00, 0x33e684): stub
[12:06] <tahsin> err:ole:CoGetClassObject apartment not initialised
[12:06] <tahsin> err:ole:CoGetClassObject apartment not initialised
[12:06] <tahsin> err:ole:CoGetClassObject apartment not initialised
[12:06] <tahsin> err:ole:CoGetClassObject apartment not initialised
[12:06] <tahsin> err:ole:CoGetClassObject apartment not initialised
[12:06] <tahsin> err:ole:CoGetClassObject apartment not initialised
[12:06] <tahsin> err:ole:CoGetClassObject apartment not initialised
[12:06] <tahsin> fixme:wininet:CommitUrlCacheEntryInternal entry already in cache - don't know what to do!
[12:06] <tahsin> err:ole:CoGetClassObject apartment not initialised
[12:06] <tahsin> what does this mean?
[12:06] <tripppy> omg all i want to do is pair my phone with ubuntu so its a autherised device. yet the default PIN code doesnt work. '1234'
[12:06] <Yodude> Muzik83: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6349/
[12:06] <evan__> hey muzike, i managed to get sound to play through totem without issuing sudo but i dont even get system sounds or sounds from other apps?
[12:07] <willskills> evan__, alsa-oss?
[12:07] <evan__> alsa
[12:07] <Phat32> Well I figured out the problem
[12:07] <willskills> no, dude, aoss
[12:07] <Phat32> vmware hates my new kernel
[12:07] <evan__> huh?
[12:07] <willskills> do you know what aoss is?
[12:07] <evan__> srry *noob* here
[12:07] <Muzik83> Yodude: ok so what your building needs some extra libraries ... most noteably this one: No package 'glib-2.0' found
[12:07] <willskills> oh, I assumed not, "VMware will support ISO"
[12:07] <willskills> heh
[12:07] <eltese> mattude: probably your administrator password that's acting up.. Try configuring your network better or try (this actually worked for me) a remot host :p
[12:07] <Flannel> tahsin: first, don't flood the channel, second, what are you doing to get that error?  is that wine?
[12:08] <willskills> evan__, sudo apt-get aoss
[12:08] <Yodude> do i get "glib-2.0" package?
[12:08] <tahsin> yes
[12:08] <willskills> then run progs with aoss <prog>
[12:08] <_dam> what happened with cdimage.ubuntu.com today? for example http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20070218/ is empty
[12:08] <tahsin> im trying to install IE6
[12:08] <evan__> willskills: Invalid operation aoss
[12:08] <Flannel> tahsin: you should ask in #winehq, they'd be able to help you more proficiently
[12:08] <Muzik83> Yodude: its actually called libglib2.0-dev
[12:08] <willskills> evan__, sudo apt-get install aoss
[12:08] <willskills> :P
[12:08] <tahsin> ohok thanks
[12:08] <Yodude> k i'll get it right now
[12:08] <eltese> ^^
[12:09] <tahsin> can u help me eith flight gear
[12:09] <Psy> sudo apt-get install build-essential < whats the purpose of that command?
[12:09] <evan__> willskills: Couldnt find package aoss
[12:09] <Muzik83> Yodude: you will probably have a few more of them that you need to get, but you wont know til you do another ./configure
[12:09] <tahsin> i have installed flight gear
[12:09] <willskills> evan__, sudo apt-get alsa-oss
[12:09] <tahsin> but dont know how to run it
[12:09] <Muzik83> Yodude: (or read the INSTALL documentation for your software...which should detail what packages it needs)
[12:10] <tahsin> so how do i open or run flight gear?
[12:10] <evan__> willskills: sudo apt-get alsa-oss
[12:10] <evan__> err
[12:10] <evan__> invalid operation
[12:10] <willskills> intsall
[12:10] <willskills> dude
[12:10] <evan__> bad paste
[12:10] <legolaswood> what is Edgy? is it a code name for Ubuntu 6.10 or it is an special release?
[12:10] <Muzik83> evan__: sudo apt-get install alsa-oss <-- missing install :p
[12:10] <Yodude> well i al;ready have the dependiecies cuz i had the ealrier version 0.11.1
[12:10] <willskills> it is the name of 6.10
[12:10] <Flannel> Psy: it'll install the 'build-essential' metapackage, which will install all of the general things you'll need to compile
[12:10] <coNP> legolaswood: 6.10
[12:10] <eltese> legolaswood: 6,10
[12:10] <eltese> =)
[12:10] <Muzik83> Yodude: yes, but to compile it you need the source code of the dependencies
[12:10] <__doc__> moin. A question about 845patch. It tells me "Could not calculate correct location to patch". I know that my bios only sets 1024 bytes of memory for video, while more then 8-bit color would need a little more video memory. Any idea how I can fix that? (for those who do not know, this is about intel graphics chipsets without memory)
[12:10] <doojin> hi
[12:11] <eltese> While we are ont he subject.. Have anyone tried out Feisty?
[12:11] <andreseso> hello, I am having problems with the ubuntu svnadmin.I have subversion 1.3.2-3ubuntu2 and I am failing to load a 2.2G dump file.  It fails with File size limit exceeded (core dumped)
[12:11] <Yodude> dam
[12:11] <Yodude> lol
[12:11] <jussi01> tahsin: fgfs
[12:11] <evan__> muzik83: E: Couldn't find package alsa-os
[12:11] <doojin> How can I write ubuntu netinst image to a usb memory stick?
[12:11] <tahsin> whats fgfs?
[12:11] <Yodude> man in the first place, why is the new version not available in the repos?
[12:11] <coNP> eltese: yep, further discussion about Feisty on #ubuntu+1
[12:11] <jussi01> tahsin: press alt+f2 then type fgfs
[12:11] <tahsin> ok
[12:11] <Yodude> the earlier version really sucks it gives a bad image of the software that is excellent btw
[12:12] <Flannel> Yodude: versions are frozen each release, new stuff won't be released.
[12:12] <Muzik83> Yodude: the  people who make it available are just figuring otu the dependenceis like you too!  J/k ...they gotta test it and make sure it doesnt crash and is good enough
[12:12] <tahsin> i got it
[12:12] <evan__> muzik83: E: Couldn't find package alsa-os
[12:12] <tahsin> thanks jussi01
[12:12] <Yodude> yes but i got released quiet a while ago
[12:12] <jussi01> tahsin: np's
[12:12] <Muzik83> evan__: ya im not sure i just noticed the typo (an easy fix)
[12:12] <Yodude> the version available in the repo 0.11.1 is like 6 months old!
[12:12] <evan__> k..
[12:13] <Muzik83> evan__: and it would be alsa-oss (not sure if you missed the last character on the c&p)
[12:13] <x386> !paste
[12:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:13] <tahsin> jussi01: but how am i suppose to know that typing fgfs will run it? why doesn the installer create a shortcut
[12:13] <Flannel> Yodude: what version are you running?  Edgy? Dapper?
[12:13] <Yodude> flannel: Edgy
[12:13] <evan__> muzik83: alsa-oss is already the newest version.
[12:13] <evan__> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:13] <Yodude> it should really have the newer version in the repo
[12:13] <Flannel> Yodude: edgy's version were frozen July 13
[12:14] <Yodude> but why?
[12:14] <__doc__> please help. 8-bit color on my laptop sucks :/
[12:14] <Yodude> it's the current stable release!
[12:14] <jussi01> tahsin: programmer didnt put it in I suppose
[12:14] <Flannel> Yodude: versions are frozen per each Ubuntu release.  Whatever version was shipped with edgy, will always be with edgy.
[12:14] <Spee_Der_> a little help please with xchat-gnome. I'd like to remove the leading and trailing characters in front of the users names as the information is displayed. How to do this ?
[12:15] <abbi2b> Guys !! how do i install ubuntu in *text mode*
[12:15] <tahsin> jussi01 okay thanks but why is it stuck i mean the flight gear window is stuck hanged
[12:15] <Flannel> abbi2b: get the alternate CD
[12:15] <jussi01> tahsin: you can make your own shotcut
[12:15] <evan__> just download the alternate iso
[12:15] <willskills> Spee_Der_, get rid of xchat-gnome
[12:15] <willskills> and intsall xchat :P
[12:15] <evan__> from the site
[12:15] <Arcad4> hi..i've stopped the instalation of a package and now it give me an error
[12:15] <tahsin> which is the program hanged
[12:15] <Yodude> but that means you can like NEVEr get updates when you follow the stable versions!
[12:15] <abbi2b> Flannel: can u give me the link plz
[12:16] <Flannel> abbi2b: same place you downloaded the desktop CD, if edgy, you need to click the "ADditional Install Options" link
[12:16] <Spee_Der_> willskills that bad eh. I have and use xchat. I was just checking out xchat-gnome.... thanks.
[12:16] <andreseso> does anybody have advice on how to import into a subversion repo a 2.2GB dump file.  The version with Ubuntu edgy core dumps with me
[12:16] <abbi2b> thx Flannel
[12:16] <Flannel> andreseso: you might have more luck in #svn
[12:16] <evan__> I have The latest Alsa-oss installed yet i only get sound in totem... other apps appear to play but dont produce sound... why is this... help hguely appreciated
[12:16] <Heavenquake> I have a wireless problem. Running Kubuntu Linux on other PC, I've just put in a wireless adapter PCI card. It is automatically recognized, and works fine. Wlassistant also recognizes my accesspoint. But when trying to connect to that accesspoint, it simply fails. It is unencrypted and is about 3 meters away. My laptop running Windows does fine, and I am asking via this one. Any help?
[12:16] <Zythion> http://z8.invisionfree.com/Klosd/index.php?  :O
[12:16] <vduck> !kubuntu
[12:16] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:17] <willskills> Spee_Der_, yep, pretty much :] 
[12:17] <Zythion> http://z8.invisionfree.com/Klosd/index.php?
[12:17] <Zythion> :)
[12:17] <Spee_Der_> Hmmm
[12:17] <evan__>  I have The latest Alsa-oss installed yet i only get sound in totem... other apps appear to play but dont produce sound... why is this... help hugely appreciated
[12:17] <andreseso> Yodude: Ubuntu is focused on stability.  Having the versions of software upgraded in a release is not suitable for servers.  It breaks things
[12:17] <Flannel> Zythion: that's entirely inappropriate, please go elsewhere
[12:17] <Spee_Der_> Funny. I just installed Edgy Eft on the other machine and when I call xchat-gnome, it does not display the leading and trailing characters.....
[12:17] <Yodude> Muzik83: No package 'dbus-1' found  No package 'dbus-glib-1' found
[12:17] <Spee_Der_> 2 funi
[12:18] <Yodude> Muzik83: should i get those too?
[12:18] <drees> hello guys, greetings from Holland
[12:18] <Muzik83> Yodude: yep, use apt-cache search to look for dbus-glib ... then find the -dev package that matches ..same with dbus-1
[12:18] <n1gke> Greetings from North East USA.
[12:18] <charl_ie> hi drees
[12:18] <evan__>  I have The latest Alsa-oss installed yet i only get sound in totem... other apps appear to play but dont produce sound... why is this... help hguely appreciated.. plz anything ive spent over 7 hours googling and attempting fixes
[12:19] <drees> hi Charly
[12:19] <Muzik83> Yodude: so this: libdbus-glib-1-dev - simple interprocess messaging system (GLib interface)
[12:19] <ben_underscore> n1gke: howdy, nice and cold there?
[12:19] <Trunkz> Ooooh.. ~oerrrr =P
[12:19] <Trunkz> Finally got Linux.. under my belt ^_~"
[12:20] <drees> I am a newbie here
[12:20] <Trunkz> dress: how may I help =P
[12:20] <Polenium> newbie here too
[12:20] <Trunkz> I've been using ubuntu for just over 5hrs (excluding sleep time)
[12:20] <andreseso> Flannel:  googling I have seen that they recommend rebuilding svn and everything that depends on it.  Unfortunately apache has shared dependencies and is a pain to compile
[12:20] <eltese> how do i make vmware run .iso? Want to install ubuntu edgy :p Got the .iso but cant get it to run it
[12:20] <Trunkz> and I've learnt so much xD.. I think I have a hidden ability to leech off quintin's brain =X
[12:20] <__doc__> so it seems that the i810 intel chipset with a bios flash upwards of A22 doesn't work with the driver properly, and the patch845 which normally helps in such cases didn't help me here either.
[12:20] <Yodude> hey please can someone pass this on to the developpoers: support newer spoftware versions within each stable release!
[12:20] <drees> its the first time I activate this program
[12:20] <evan__>  I have The latest Alsa-oss installed yet i only get sound in totem... other apps appear to play but dont produce sound... why is this... help hugey appreciated
[12:20] <__doc__> any driver devs around?
[12:20] <tahsin> Why are my videos running slowly on ubuntu but runs smoothly on windows
[12:20] <Trunkz> eltese: under the CDRom section, u can mount isos :)
[12:20] <[Jonne] > eltese: you have to mount the iso as if it were a cdrom
[12:21] <Trunkz> =P
[12:21] <[Jonne] > you first create a new virtuzl machine
[12:21] <willskills> evan__, pm
[12:21] <Polenium> Could anyone help me in checking my disk's free space
[12:21] <andreseso> yodude:  in redhat 7.2 they upgraded the PERL version.  All perl programs broke
[12:21] <evan__> willskills: ?
[12:21] <tahsin> Why are my videos running slowly on ubuntu but runs smoothly on windows??
[12:21] <Muzik83> Polenium: df -h
[12:21] <eltese> [Jonne]  : and how do I do that? Completely new on vmWare.. Installed it today
[12:21] <Polenium> thanx Muzik83
[12:21] <Trunkz> tahsin: Have u installed your graphics drivers?
[12:21] <drees> I am working with Ubuntu
[12:21] <_Jonathan_> Polenium: you can see it in the left undercorner in synaptix
[12:22] <tahsin> no how do i do that?
[12:22] <_Jonathan_> typo..
[12:22] <Trunkz> tahsin: Well, whats your graphics card? :P
[12:22] <willskills> Apps - Add/Remove
[12:22] <willskills> search for nvidia :}
[12:22] <Flannel> Yodude: it won't happen; It was a decision made at inception.
[12:22] <tahsin> Ndivia riva tnt
[12:22] <__doc__> man 8-bit color sucks
[12:22] <Polenium> _Jonathan: sorry, whatz Synaptix?
[12:22] <Yodude> Flannel: so i guess this is why Ubuntu Ships Every 6 Months?
[12:22] <Trunkz> tahsin: Lemme find you the nvidia drivers page (btw.. unless I'm wrong, ubuntu doesnt come with nvidia drivers by default.. right?)
[12:23] <thorre> greetings
[12:23] <tahsin> well i dont know but my vidz dont run smoothly
[12:23] <thorre> i just made a big nono and removed myself from the sudoers list by issuing sudo usermod -G storage
[12:23] <thorre> how can i be added to the list of sudoers again?
[12:23] <xopher-> Where is a firewire external DVD/CD mounted?
[12:23] <thorre> i have local access to the box
[12:24] <Trunkz> tahsin: You dont have hardware acceleration for ur videos =X .. hence, u need to install ur nvidia drivers =P
[12:24] <daviey> thorre, do you have ANY suders left or a root account enabled?
[12:24] <eltese> [Jonne]  or Trunkz : Do I just have to mount the .iso in Deamon Tools for example and then choose it in vmware?
[12:24] <tahsin> how do i do that?
[12:24] <thorre> daviey: no
[12:24] <infidel> every time x start i get an error saying there is an error on vt9 i think it's trying to load xgl how can i stop this?
[12:24] <Flannel> Yodude: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[12:24] <Trunkz> eltese: In VMWare itself
[12:24] <daviey> thorre, okay; i'd recommend booting into the livecd, mounting the filesystem and manually editing sudoers
[12:24] <thorre> ok,
[12:24] <thorre> thanks
[12:24] <Psy> hey guys, i get /usr/sbin/apache2ctl does not exist in webmin - though apache got installed on install when you installed lamp?
[12:24] <thorre> bye
[12:24] <eltese> Ok. Im running it now. But i cant even find the .iso
[12:25] <daviey> thorre, b4 you go
[12:25] <Flannel> thorre: reboot to...
[12:25] <daviey> doh!
[12:25] <eltese> infidel: Do you run it from beryl?
[12:25] <Trunkz> eltese: Run up vmware, goto the project or wtv u call it (you know u made a little vmware partition file) now goto settings, click on the little cd icon.. and choose load image
[12:25] <Flannel> daviey: no need for a liveCD, the recovery console is there for a reason ;)
[12:25] <Trunkz> eltese: .. something like that =P
[12:25] <neo_> psy how can i enable apache?
[12:25] <tahsin> trunkz: how do i install it?
[12:25] <infidel> eltese, no
[12:25] <Flannel> neo_: you just need to install it.
[12:25] <Psy> neo_, i have no idea :S lol
[12:25] <daviey> Flannel, good point
[12:25] <slippyr4> has anyone here got a server install with their root partition on LVM ?
[12:25] <neo_> how
[12:26] <infidel> eltese, however i did have beryl installed
[12:26] <Yodude> Muzik83: i also need "GTK+ 2.0"
[12:26] <neo_> flannel: i that it was alreasdy installed
[12:26] <Muzik83> slippyr4: you need to have /boot outside the LVM
[12:26] <Flannel> slippyr4: yeah.  You need* /boot on non-lvm though
[12:26] <Yodude> Muzik83: what package do i get for that?
[12:26] <Trunkz> woops
[12:26] <Psy> Flannel, where does it install to by default?
[12:26] <Trunkz> !nvidia
[12:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:26] <Flannel> Psy: /bin?
[12:26] <Psy> ls /bin
[12:26] <novice> i replaced the firefox1.5 folder with new ver of firefox 2.0 in the root..... but now i'm not able to run firefox.... can anyone help me???
[12:26] <Psy> oops
[12:26] <Trunkz> etsen: there u go :P (type !nvidia)
[12:26] <Flannel> slippyr4: You technically can have boot on LVM too, but it's a lot of hassle and not really worth it (requiring special bootstrapping ramdisks)
[12:27] <Muzik83> Yodude: uh, a guess would be libgtk2.0-dev ...but there are tons of different gtk packages
[12:27] <Flannel> !firefox | novice
[12:27] <ubotu> novice: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:27] <slippyr4> flannel: yep, i know. could you do a "grep -r vgchange /etc/initramfs-tools" for me and tell me the results
[12:27] <eltese> infidel: Have you tried making a script? example : "killall xgl" and make it run only when the computer is booting up?
[12:27] <Trunkz> Who was the guy that was asking me to install nvidia drivers?
[12:27] <Flannel> slippyr4: no such file
[12:27] <Psy> Flannel, it's not under there?
[12:27] <novice> Flannel:now i'm not able to open firefox.......
[12:27] <neo_> :D
[12:27] <eltese> Trunkz: I havent done anything :p I just installed vmware. Got suse to work but it came with an configuration file. Must I make a configuration file of my own now?
[12:27] <slippyr4> flannel: you on edgy or dapper
[12:28] <Psy> is there a way to check if lamp installed correctly?
[12:28] <neo_> novice,
[12:28] <Flannel> novice: use w3m, it's textmode, but will get you there
[12:28] <daviey> novice, can you try running firefox from the terminal?
[12:28] <Flannel> slippyr4: dapper
[12:28] <neo_> i can check maybe for  u
[12:28] <infidel> eltese, no i haven't done that, but it's a good idea
[12:28] <tanlaan> Where can I change the setting of the resolution of the non X environments? *such as ctrl-alt-F1*
[12:28] <Trunkz> eltese: Right.. load up vmware.
[12:28] <Yodude> Muzik83: so GTK+ is the same as GTK
[12:28] <slippyr4> flannel: ah. dapper uses initrd, not initramfs. i think there is an equivalent initrd-tools type dir in /etc, but not certain
[12:28] <novice> daviey: i will try to run in terminal
[12:28] <Trunkz> eltese: Now, what ur trying to do is install ubuntu using that ISO file right?
[12:28] <eltese> Trunkz: yep
[12:29] <Trunkz> eltese: Okey.. now to where do u want to install this? on the suse vmware image?
[12:29] <Muzik83> psy: if apache is running, create a file called phpinfo.php and put <? phpinfo(); ?> in the file... then point your browser at localhost/phpinfo.php ...look for mysql section
[12:29] <novice> daviey: nope..... showing some error
[12:29] <eltese> Trunkz: Yeah sure.. why not ;D
[12:29] <Muzik83> Yodude: hope so ^^ ..worst case you will have an extra package on your system :)
[12:29] <novice> Flannel: how to use W3m??
[12:29] <Victor_> hello
[12:29] <Flannel> Psy: sorry, /usr/sbin
[12:29] <Trunkz> eltese: what are u running atm? Windows? :o
[12:29] <Victor_> http://www.fourmigration.com/link.php?pid=15&cont=5
[12:29] <Arcad3> where apt stores downloaded packages?
[12:29] <Flannel> novice: "w3m [url] 
[12:30] <Flannel> novice: er, without the quote
[12:30] <daviey> novice, can you pastebin it
[12:30] <Trunkz> arcad3: try /usrc/src
[12:30] <Flannel> Arcad3: /var/cache/apt
[12:30] <novice> k.... i will try
[12:30] <Psy> ah Flannel, i think i missed hitting lamp in the setup lol
[12:30] <daviey> !pastebin > novice
[12:30] <Arcad3> thanks
[12:30] <Trunkz> eltese: well?
[12:30] <eltese> Trunkz: Yes. Unfortanetly. My other hdd is dead. Wont get it until next month. So now Im using vmware (due to baaaad experiences during dual boot) . So XP
[12:30] <novice> !pastebin
[12:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:31] <Flannel> Psy: well, you can reinstall, or install it yourself.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  for a walkthough on installation
[12:31] <Psy> thanks :)
[12:31] <Trunkz> eltese: okey.. so u want to remove suse (okey from now on.. when I say image, i mean the actual thing on vmware :P)
[12:31] <infidel> eltese, xgl is not loaded but vesafb is could this be my problem?
[12:31] <Trunkz> eltese: and install ubuntu.. right? =P
[12:31] <Victor_> http://www.fourmigration.com/link.php?pid=15&cont=5
[12:32] <eltese> infidel: Yeah it could. Go to #xgl and talk to them ;) They'll probably know
[12:32] <Trunkz> Victor_: .. why are u spamming a link
[12:32] <eltese> Trunkz: correct
[12:32] <Trunkz> eltese: okeh! Well click on the suse tab (or wtv its called) but I dont want u to run suse itself..
[12:32] <tanlaan> how can I change the resolution of the console? *as in ctrl-alt-F1*
[12:32] <eltese> Trunkz: done
[12:32] <Trunkz> eltese: you shud now be on the configuration page, which says how much ram you've allocated the "image" etc..
[12:32] <infidel> eltese, ok thanks
[12:33] <novice> Flannel:Can't load https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion.
[12:33] <eltese> Trunkz: cant see nothing of that. all I see is a file called "KDE 3.5.5 on Suse 10.1" and the standard open a file window :p
[12:34] <charl_ie> novice: sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:34] <Trunkz> eltese: can u screenshot me ur vmware window plz ;p
[12:34] <eltese> Trunkz: sure
[12:34] <Flannel> novice: er, really?  thats odd.  is that the only error you get?
[12:34] <novice> charl_ie: dat code isn't working ........ its showing lot of errors
[12:34] <novice> Flannel: yup
[12:35] <Flannel> novice: what command did you give it, exactly?
[12:35] <eltese> Trunkz: Shall I post it at pastebin?
[12:35] <brann> hello. i've added medibuntu as explained here : http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/fr/repository.php but apt still cannot find package w32codecs ... ideas ?
[12:35] <eltese> !pastebin
[12:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:35] <Trunkz> eltese: whilst ur doing that, I think.. I need to install vmware xD (eltese, sure..)
[12:35] <jumbers> My swap partition is broken. It's listing it as filesystem "unknown". Is it safe to reformat it to linux-swap while I'm still in Gnome?
[12:35] <novice> actually first i used the nautilus command and then copied the firefox 2.0 folder into the root directory ....... so it replaced the original directory
[12:36] <Apollyon_> I have issues with firefox/mozilla and verysign. I am trying to make a payment, but verysign does not accept it. And if I do it with IE it accepts. So ... ???
[12:36] <novice> Flannel: now i gave w3m <url>
[12:36] <eltese> Trunkz: Can i just send you the pic? :p
[12:36] <Muzik83> jumbers: what says unknown?
[12:36] <Flannel> novice: very odd indeed.
[12:36] <jumbers> Muzik83: In Gparted, it says the filesystem is unknown
[12:36] <novice> wat shld i do now??
[12:37] <jumbers> Muzik83: I also get boottime errors about my swap
[12:37] <Amaranth> Victor_: Are you a bot?
[12:37] <Muzik83> jumbers: can you do a cat /proc/meminfo and put it on pastebin
[12:37] <infidel> eltese, looking at my event logs and the xorg.conf file i have this device for a tablet, you know anything about that?
[12:37] <Flannel> novice: Well, I wish we had more information on why it wasn't working.  My initial response would be install another browser (lynx or whatever) and try that
[12:37] <Trunkz> eltese: yeah :p
[12:37] <Amaranth> Victor_: You have 2 minutes to reply to this
[12:38] <Victor_> http://www.fourmigration.com/link.php?pid=15&cont=5
[12:38] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: I was about to apply the gag
[12:38] <novice> Flannel: where can i find the other browsers
[12:38] <Amaranth> infidel: that's standard
[12:38] <Flannel> novice: the repositories
[12:38] <eltese> infidel: Isnt that standard?
[12:38] <novice> Flannel: shld i search in synaptic...??
[12:38] <Flannel> !browsers | novice
[12:38] <ubotu> novice: Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[12:38] <Flannel> novice: oh, dillo is a good one, it'll be graphical
[12:38] <novice> Flannel: k..... thanx..... i will try
[12:38] <Trunkz> Amaranth: Victor_ is a bot I think, he's spamming the same link.. over and over and over
[12:38] <infidel> Amaranth, eltese wouldn't hurt to comment it out right?
[12:38] <Amaranth> stupid chanserv script
[12:38] <Trunkz> xD
[12:39] <novice> Flannel: k....... i will try .......
[12:39] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: looks to be a chatzilla client
[12:39] <eltese> infidel: shouldnt think so.
[12:39] <Trunkz> eltese: Whilst ur doing that.. may I interest you in some expensive chinese vase? Only $2000 ;)
[12:39] <jumbers> Muzik83: Putting it in my pastebin, but I just looked and it says I have 0 swap and 0 swap free
[12:39] <jussi01> Hei all - can someone tell me how to build alliance p2p? http://www.alliancep2p.com/overview.shtml
[12:39] <aeshyamae> i installed the 3ddesktop package in the system activating the universe repository.Is that enough to setup a 3d desktop on ubuntu 6.06???
[12:39] <Muzik83> jumbers: ok thats what i wanted to know, dont bother with the pastebin
[12:40] <Trunkz> jussi01: usually its a ./configure, then make then make install :p
[12:40] <eltese> Trunkz: haha! Thanks alot for the offer but no thanks =) Makes me think my fiance would first make me not so reproductive and then afterwards leave me ;D
[12:40] <jussi01> Trunks: yeah, I know, its a weird one though
[12:40] <xopher-> aeshyamae that's not what you want. Joind #ubuntu-effects for more information about compositing and real 3d accelerated desktops
[12:40] <Trunkz> eltese: lol ;p
[12:40] <Muzik83> jumbers: ok do the following: mkswap /dev/yourswappart
[12:40] <Trunkz> jussi01: Actually, where the heck is the source? O_o
[12:40] <aeshyamae> thank you sooooooooooo much
[12:41] <andreseso> brann:  You can download the w32codecs from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload-es.html  When I tried to install them with apt-get, I got a 404
[12:41] <Muzik83> jumbers: then swapon /dev/yourswappart
[12:41] <Trunkz> eltese: u done with that pic lol :p
[12:41] <jumbers> Muzik83: Done
[12:41] <Muzik83> jumbers: both?  What does meminfo say now?
[12:41] <jussi01> Trunkz: I dont know theres a jar file, and a zip file that says src... but its weird, they say they have linux
[12:41] <jumbers> SwapTotal:     1622524 kB
[12:41] <jumbers> SwapFree:      1602936 kB
[12:42] <Trunkz> jussi01: Oh I know.. its a jar file xD http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=166584&package_id=191411&release_id=482264
[12:42] <Muzik83> jumbers: awesome, you have swap for now...now make sure it happens next time you restart
[12:42] <Trunkz> jussi01: Sorta like Azureus, where u run the .jar file (its a java app) from console
[12:42] <eltese> Trunkz: Cant you receive my file?
[12:42] <Arcad4> when i try to "apt-get install something" it gives me an eror "A package needs to be reinstalled but the archive is not found" how do i fix this?
[12:42] <Trunkz> eltese: nope o.o its not there
[12:42] <Muzik83> jumbers: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[12:42] <Muzik83> jumbers: look for the line like: /dev/sda2       none            swap    sw              0       0
[12:43] <Trunkz> eltese: Stick it on something like photobucket
[12:43] <eltese> Trunkz: maybe its my irc acting up... Do you have any im?
[12:43] <Trunkz> eltese: GAIM.. so msn I guess :p
[12:43] <brann> andreseso, finally i've found the solution : i'm using amd64, so w32codecs doesnt works. i'll test w64codecs :)
[12:43] <jumbers> Muzik83: Yeah, it's there. That's why I was getting boottime errors about swap issues
[12:43] <Trunkz> eltese: ichihoes@gmail.com is meh msn
[12:43] <Muzik83> jumbers: ok :)
[12:43] <jussi01> Trunkz: so I just go to terminal and type: sudo allianceversionwhatever.jar
[12:43] <jumbers> Muzik83: Thank you :)
[12:44] <andreseso> arcad4:  try sudo apt-get -f install
[12:44] <Trunkz> jussi01: nope.. find out how u run java files, I cant remember off the top of my head
[12:44] <Arcad4> the same
[12:44] <Muzik83> np :)
[12:44] <jussi01> Trunkz: thanks
[12:44] <phatrabbit> to the idiot who told me that formatting the ubuntu drive thanks alot you have caused my hard drive to die
[12:44] <Trunkz> jussi01: np, sorry for the lack of help :)
[12:45] <phatrabbit> Muzik83: thanks alot mate
[12:45] <jussi01> Trunkz: thanks anyway - catch ya round
[12:45] <Trunkz> jussi01: Take care mate :)
[12:45] <Arcad4> phatrabbit:i think formatting ur hdd cant kill it :)
[12:45] <phatrabbit> arcad4
[12:45] <phatrabbit> yes it does
[12:46] <phatrabbit> grub screws up and you cant load windows
[12:46] <Arcad4> aaa
[12:46] <Arcad4> yes u can
[12:46] <phatrabbit> i finally fixed that issue, now i cant format my hard drive in anyway NTFS, FAT32 nothing and it says its BAD DISK
[12:47] <Arcad4> format with Ubuntu qtparted?
[12:47] <infidel> !xgl
[12:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:47] <phatrabbit> for some reason i cant load Ubuntu off the disk in graphics mode either it just hangs at a black screen after its loaded
[12:48] <Arcad4> :) i have the same prob when i install nvidia graphics driver
[12:48] <Arcad4> a black screen
[12:48] <andreseso> anybody know of a utility that might warn of impending hard drive failure?  Maybe reading the SMART information or similar?
[12:48] <phatrabbit> arc : how did u fix it ?
[12:48] <thorre> it worked, thanks
[12:49] <Arcad4> i've removed the nvidia driver
[12:49] <phatrabbit> from windows ?
[12:49] <Arcad4> ubuntu
[12:49] <Arcad4> in windows its the same
[12:49] <phatrabbit> ok how can i do that if the whole disk is corrupt
[12:50] <Arcad4> format it with a windows boot disk
[12:50] <Arcad4> complete format
[12:50] <phatrabbit> yer thats the only thing i havent tried
[12:50] <Arcad4> and then use harddisk tools to repair bad sectors
[12:50] <phatrabbit> i was using Partitions magic 8
[12:50] <__doc__> how do you start the firestarter gui for a normal user?
[12:51] <__doc__> the installation programm didn't add a menu item to gnome
[12:51] <__doc__> and the programm is only runnable by root
[12:51] <eltese> Trunkz: Can I add you?
[12:51] <andreseso> i start the firestarter gui from system> administration > firestarter
[12:52] <Arcad4> firestarter will block some ports
[12:52] <Arcad4> its not good
[12:52] <__doc__> oh right
[12:53] <thoreauputic> Arcad3: umm, that's what firestarter is supposed to do :) It's a firewall app !
[12:53] <diazepam> can anyone recommend a linux replacement for google desktop enterprise?
[12:53] <thoreauputic> Arcad3: :)
[12:53] <__doc__> Arcad4: well, yeah that's the idea of a firewall isn't it :D
[12:53] <Trunkz> eltese: yeah :p
[12:53] <evan_> ok i have a sound issue, only totem plays sound... and i think its just setup wrong becuz right now i have everything muted in alsamixer yet im still listening to some hendrix???
[12:53] <eltese> Trunkz : Ok. whats your address then?
[12:53] <Arcad4> but to unblock those port u need to stop firewall
[12:54] <Arcad4> so..its for nothing
[12:54] <evan_>  ok i have a sound issue, only totem plays sound... and i think its just setup wrong becuz right now i have everything muted in alsamixer yet im still listening to some hendrix??? Can anyone tell me how to properly setup and configure my card and/or alsa?
[12:54] <daveR> Hi,  can anyone please help me? - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=364360.   i am really stuck.
[12:54] <andreseso> in policies with firestarter you can open ports
[12:54] <Trunkz> eltese: * smacks around with the expensive vase * I said it earlier lol.. ichihoes@gmail.com
[12:55] <eltese> Trunkz: lol :) My fiance were at the computer and didnt see it ;D
[12:55] <evan_> can anyone please help me, i dont really feel like switching to opensuse just b/c i cant get my sound working
[12:56] <Trunkz> eltese: what the hell is she watchin O_o
[12:56] <evan_>  ok i have a sound issue, only totem plays sound... and i think its just setup wrong becuz right now i have everything muted in alsamixer yet im still listening to some hendrix???
[12:56] <evan_> any help plz?
[12:56] <eltese> Trunkz: dunno ^^ She's not used to irc ;D Ive added you know anyway =)
[12:56] <Trunkz> eltese: i know :p
[12:57] <evan_> bah i think my chat must be invisible >.<
[12:57] <Arcad3> try unmute
[12:57] <Arcad3> install xmms
[12:57] <Arcad3> download a song
[12:57] <evan_> i can only listen to music in totem
[12:57] <Arcad3> !codecs
[12:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:57] <evan_> and right now everything is muted yet im still listening??
[12:59] <vasser> hello
[12:59] <Arcad3> hi
[12:59] <vasser> my ubuntu server works, but when i give it the command to shutdown, it stops everything but never shuts down
[01:00] <Arcad3> type in "shutdown now"
[01:00] <vasser> i do that
[01:00] <vasser> then (when a monitor is plugged)
[01:01] <vasser> i see that it tells me "give root p/w for maintnance or ctrl-d to continue"
[01:01] <vasser> or something along those lines
[01:01] <Arcad3> weel press CTRL+D
[01:01] <vasser> first of all
[01:01] <Arcad3> to continue its shudown
[01:01] <vasser> ctrl-d re-runs init
[01:01] <Flannel> vasser: shutdown just shuts the OS down, if you want it to turn off the computer, there are parameters for that
[01:02] <vasser> i will check the command line parameters, then
[01:02] <Flannel> vasser: -h usually does it, -hP will do it.
[01:02] <vasser> thanks, Flannel
[01:02] <Spee_Der> How to disable the join & parting messages in xchat please. It is to much screen clutter forme.
[01:02] <vmlemon> Will Feisty Fawn ever be "the" Ubuntu, or will it always be unstable?
[01:03] <andreseso> vasser:  shutting down with the kernel option acpi=off the PC did not power off.  I had to hit the button
[01:03] <__doc__> I've got a problem, I need to install some driver for an ndiswrapper affair, but the driver referenced by the wiki does only contain further exe files which cannot be unzipped. How do I get the inf and sys files out of it?
[01:03] <Flannel> vmlemon: Feisty will be released in 7.04, and will be 'the' ubuntu (well, one of)
[01:03] <Arcad3> and what is so special about it?
[01:04] <Flannel> vmlemon: there is no constantly unstable version, if that's what you're asking
[01:04] <vmlemon> Thanks
[01:04] <Daverocks> Spee_Der: if you right click on a tab, and hover over the channel name, you get the option "show join/part messages"
[01:05] <Spee_Der> Thanks so much.
[01:05] <Spee_Der> Thanks, that was too easy....
[01:06] <Daverocks> Spee_Der: no problem
[01:06] <Arcad3> when i "apt-get install something" an error appears "The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled ..can't find the archive for it" what shall i do...?
[01:06] <Arcad3> reinstall edgy?:)
[01:06] <Spee_Der> I'm test driving Feisty Fawn for now.... On a seperate box no less....
[01:06] <Spee_Der> So far, so good.
[01:06] <Ryiel> hey
[01:06] <Spee_Der> Hey Ry
[01:07] <vmlemon> Unstable?
[01:07] <Ryiel> I'm dowloading ubuntu now :D Im about to bansih windows :D
[01:07] <vmlemon> Yay, another Windows gone
[01:07] <aliasd> how do i get rid of all the uuid shit on edgy?
[01:07] <Daverocks> Ryiel: non-windows = good ;)
[01:08] <Arcad3>  Ryiel: Edgy or Dapper?
[01:08] <Ryiel> what?
[01:08] <Spee_Der> Ryiel, nice. Good luck. Ubuntu is loads of fun.
[01:08] <Arcad3> Ubuntu dapper 6.06 or Edgy?
[01:08] <Flannel> Arcad3: Dapper
[01:08] <Ryiel> I hope so. Can i use my skystar2 satelite card? :D
[01:08] <__doc__> cabextract/unshield would've been the tipp
[01:08] <Spee_Der> I'd opt for the Dapper Drake v6.06 LTS
[01:08] <StFS> is there anything similar to kickstart avaailable for ubuntu?
[01:08] <Hoxxin> im in big trouble and need help. i made a backup copy with k3b and was gonna copy the data to a windows machine, all files are on the dvd but i cant paste them into windows or ubuntu
[01:08] <Daverocks> StFS: you mean kickoff?
[01:09] <Daverocks> StFS: the kde menu thing?
[01:09] <StFS> Daverocks: no... kickstart (it's a redhat "unattended" installation thingy)
[01:09] <Daverocks> StFS: ah... well then i don't know
[01:09] <Arcad3> anyone got an answer for this???  when i "apt-get install something" an error appears "The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled ..can't find the archive for it" what shall i do...? ubuntu edgy..
[01:10] <aliasd> how am i supposed to boot a cloned system?
[01:10] <mei> i have  aquestion regarding my problem related to jsp and tomcat server is there any channel related to java? thx
[01:10] <Flannel> mei: ##java is the java channel here on freenode
[01:11] <Daverocks> Ryiel: you might be able to, but it would take some configuring... it doesn't work out of the box
[01:11] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> HELP! My start-menu is krashing all the time, sending linux into a everlooping krasch-cycle... I have no idea why this happened... this just started out of the blue!
[01:11] <mei> Flannel i can not get in, may be it does not exists
[01:11] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: is this kde?
[01:11] <Flannel> mei: you need to be registered with nickserv to get in
[01:12] <svu_> is ubuntu going to use nouveau drivers any time soon?
[01:12] <Daverocks> Ryiel: this page will come in handy for you later... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-60549.html
[01:12] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: Nope... Ubuntu, Edgy, GNOME
[01:12] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: dont know if this helps: http://pastebin.se/8994
[01:12] <Flannel> svu_: nouveau drivers aren't really working yet.
[01:12] <mei> Flannel how should be registering?
[01:12] <Flannel> !reigster  | mei
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reigster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <svu_> Flannel, I heard but they are progressing fast - so making them optional would be nice - opensource nv driver sucks big time
[01:13] <svu_> Flannel, I heard FC was going to include them
[01:13] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: heh i see... that's not good
[01:13] <vasser> how do i add a script to be run on startup ?
[01:13] <Flannel> svu_: they won't be available until theyre actually feasible.  And Feistys freeze just happened, so it'll be at least 7.10 before theyre in ubuntu.
[01:14] <yAkup> s.a
[01:14] <yAkup> :)
[01:14] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverock: indeed not!
[01:14] <dongxiong> hi
[01:14] <mei> Flannel i could not do it, but do u know anything about jsp?
[01:14] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverock: any ideas of how to fix?
[01:14] <andreas__> Hi. Can someone please help me connect my Nokia N73 to my Feisty? It soes not see the usb-connection for the time being.
[01:14] <yAkup> heheh
[01:14] <yAkup> :D
[01:14] <Flannel> andreas__: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[01:14] <aliasd> could someone please help? this is very frustrating! i am trying to clone a system, but grub and the fstab no longer work properly... does anyone know what steps i can go through to get edgy looking for drives at /dev/whatever again?
[01:15] <svu_> Flannel, ok, I'll wait till 7.10 then. if powerpc would not be dropped altogether
[01:15] <dongxiong> chinese
[01:15] <andreas__> Flannel: Say again...
[01:15] <Flannel> andreas__: Feisty support is in #ubuntu+1, not here
[01:15] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: well the first exception there occurs in the function __kernel_vsyscall(), which already doesn't sound like it's going to be easy to "fix"
[01:16] <andreas__> Flannel: Kinda sucks... this is the GNOME IRC app that is in the app manager in Feisty. Auto-connects to this one.
[01:16] <yAkup> :)
[01:16] <Flannel> andreas__: eh, well, this will be the feisty support channel once it's released.
[01:17] <yAkup> sarcamus
[01:17] <yAkup> ordamsn
[01:17] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: damn it... how did this happend? Im screwed?
[01:17] <andreas__> Flannel: Well... Thanks
[01:17] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: has it ever worked in the past?
[01:17] <ompaul> !test
[01:17] <ubotu> Failed.
[01:17] <mei> sorry ! anybody who knows anything about jsp ?
[01:18] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: sure... beeing uring it to run my company since new years eve!
[01:18] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> *been using
[01:18] <mei> #tomcat
[01:18] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: do you remember doing anything that suddenly broke it?
[01:18] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: or did you make any unrelated change to the system, and it stopped working after that?
[01:19] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: no... the only thing I can think of is that when I run XSANE to scan an image, theres a warning that Im trying to run it as root which is dangerous... could that be it?
[01:20] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: has it always been saying that?
[01:20] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: yes... installed the Brother-driver yesterday...
[01:21] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: so it's been saying that since yesterday?
[01:21] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: yes... havent been using XSANE since yesterday
[01:22] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: and the problem arose since yesterday?
[01:22] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: the problem started today around 11.30... (checking something)
[01:23] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: could be the brother driver somehow
[01:24] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: well... this is completely out of my league to fix on my own... I wish I could do a apt-get remove and apt-get install to fix... :P
[01:24] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: you might be able to able to, check which package gnome-panel is in
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak_> how do you turn beryl off, and go back to the normal gnome desktop?
[01:25] <ph8> hey guys! i have one of these new samsung screens that you can rotate - has anyone come across software that will auto adjust when it rotates? it sends some signals (works in windows)
[01:25] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: how do I do that?
[01:27] <MarcM> IndyGunFreak_: right-click the beryl icon and there is an option to set window manager. choose metacity
[01:27] <Arcad3> my edgy freezes
[01:27] <Arcad3> :(
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak_> MarcM: thanks..
[01:28] <Arcad3> mouse wont mouve
[01:28] <Arcad3> ..
[01:28] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: i think the package is actually called gnome-panel
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak_> MarcM: i don't have a beryl icon
[01:28] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: should I try a 'sudo apt-get remove gnome-panel' and then a install?
[01:29] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: it might be not work because of dependecies etc
[01:29] <Arcad3> i have the same prob as UbuntuNOOB
[01:29] <Daverocks> *dependencies
[01:29] <xenoix> hey
[01:29] <xenoix> im having a small problem
[01:29] <xenoix> when i did
[01:29] <Daverocks> Arcad3: where gnome-panel crashes?
[01:29] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: any other suggestion? do it via Synaptics?
[01:29] <xenoix> apt-get install kde
[01:29] <xenoix> i chose kdm
[01:29] <mackinac> !enter
[01:29] <xenoix> now i get this:
[01:29] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:29] <xenoix> root@brendan-laptop:/home/xenoix# /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:29] <xenoix>  * Not starting GNOME Display Manager (gdm); it is not the default display manager.
[01:29] <xenoix> root@brendan-laptop:/home/xenoix#
[01:30] <xenoix> how do i change back to gdm?
[01:30] <Daverocks> !paste | xenoix
[01:30] <ubotu> xenoix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak_> xenoix: type your problem all in one line, there's to much traffic to try and follow multiple lines
[01:30] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: that shouldn't make a difference
[01:30] <Arcad3> i think its my video card when it freezes...
[01:30] <MarcM> IndyGunFreak_:  you don't have a red jewel in the taskbar?
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak_> MarcM: no
[01:30] <Daverocks> xenoix: hang on, i've dealt with this before, let me get some info
[01:30] <xenoix> ok thanks
[01:31] <xenoix> its for XGL if it helps
[01:31] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: well... Im not doing anything prior to getting a thumbs up here... since I dont want to completely trash my system! :P
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak_> MarcM: i guess itsnot that big of a deal, i can just do a kill, and that seems to do the trick
[01:31] <MarcM> IndyGunFreak_:  try typing beryl-manager on a command line
[01:31] <fiveiron> quick question... my nfs mounts in /etc/fstab have been commented out by my upgrade to 6.10   ... where are nfs share mounted now?
[01:31] <oritemis> I am getting this error while making, someone get an idea? :launcher.c: In function 'kiba_launcher_load_new_icon':
[01:31] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: heh...
[01:31] <oritemis> launcher.c:1004: error: 'KibaObject' has no member named 'bg_svg_handle'
[01:32] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: well... remove/reinstall gnome-panel dia apt-get... should I try or not?
[01:32] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: *feel the pressure* ;)
[01:32] <Arcad3> fiveiron:/media
[01:32] <xenoix> why cant ubuntu be as easy as SUSE for XGL >=(
[01:32] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: try, but if it warns you about dependencies and removing other things, don't continue
[01:32] <fiveiron> Arcad3, sorry... i meant with what file are they mounted?
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak_> MarcM: it came up, but when I choose quit, Beryl keeps running
[01:33] <mackinac> fiveiron:  still /etc/fstab/
[01:33] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: allright...
[01:33] <fiveiron> .... weird
[01:33] <MarcM> IndyGunFreak_: when it comes up choose metacity as window manager then quite
[01:33] <fiveiron> oh i see
[01:34] <mackinac> fiveiron:  6.10 uses different notation in fstab tho
[01:34] <fiveiron> yeah, UUID
[01:34] <fiveiron> now I'll read up on figuring out UUID
[01:34] <fiveiron> :-)
[01:35] <fiveiron> ah, well that was easy
[01:35] <mackinac> :)
[01:35] <Daverocks> xenoix: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and it might give you an option to set it as default
[01:35] <xenoix> ok
[01:35] <xenoix> ah thanks
[01:35] <xenoix> that did it
[01:35] <xenoix> now
[01:35] <xenoix> installing XGL
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak_> MarcM: ok, that did the trick.. question is, how do i do that w/o going through terminal everytime
[01:36] <xenoix> is there a really "basic" way to it
[01:36] <xenoix> :(
[01:36] <xenoix> like SUSE?
[01:36] <mackinac> !enter | xenoix
[01:36] <ubotu> xenoix: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:36] <xenoix> -_-'
[01:36] <Daverocks> xenoix: well i use suse (:P) but i think by now there are easy to install packages for ubuntu
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak_> MarcM: nevremind, now, oddly enough, when i choose Beryl Mgr in my menu, that menu pops up
[01:37] <MarcM> IndyGunFreak_: :)
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak_> MarcM: it didn't do it before, it would just start beryl, any idea why?
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak_> i didn't change aything
[01:37] <MarcM> IndyGunFreak_: no, it's always started for me
[01:37] <gemini9> hey
[01:38] <MarcM> hi
[01:38] <IndyGunFreak_> MarcM: oh well, that will remaina mystery wrapped inside a riddle.. :)
[01:38] <gemini9> my adept manager went into lock-down mode
[01:38] <xenoix> is ATI the same as intel?
[01:40] <Yodude> Muzik83: hey i'm finished download the source code of the dependencies
[01:40] <CRHZ> Hi all. I am new to Ubuntu and I need to set up a VPN connection to an ISAKMP server. What is a good VPN client to use (supports IPSec IKE hopefully has easy to use GUI - supports certificates either .key/.crt or .p12 etc) -- anyone?
[01:40] <Yodude> Muzik83: i'll let you see the results i got
[01:41] <gemini9> my adept manager went into lock-down mode, any help?
[01:41] <Brandon_> david deangelo?
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak_> CRHZ: there's a couple VPN clients in the repos, try them, sorry i don't know which is better,
[01:42] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: well... did it, didnt help! :( gnome-panel still crashes... nwo with three additional dialog windows telling me that things arent good
[01:42] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: hmm.
[01:42] <CRHZ> IndyGunFreak: How do I learn their names? I am very new to Ubuntu - is there a place I go to see them?
[01:42] <mel> how to i upgrade my dapper to edgy with out having any loss in settings ?
[01:42] <gemini9> how do i get adept manager out of lock-down mode?
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak_> CRHZ: Click System/Admin/Synaptic Package manager, and do a search for VPN
[01:43] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: indeed
[01:43] <NO_DAL_MOLIN> does anybody have ever installed ubuntu from external hdd?
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak_> looks like there's one called OpenvPN,
[01:43] <mel> xenoix: have u used suse 10.1 ?
[01:43] <xenoix> yeah
[01:43] <xenoix> i own it
[01:43] <xenoix> and it screwed up on my today
[01:43] <xenoix> so i installed ubuntu over it
[01:44] <Yodude> Muzik83: are you still there?
[01:45] <xenoix> brb rebooting
[01:45] <NO_DAL_MOLIN> i can't install ubuntu from cd and i'm trying to do it by external hdd, but it doesn't work
[01:45] <Hedegaard> how do I change what default program to use for opening a file ?
[01:45] <GNUtoo2> i have a problem with qemu: it is killed by a process but i don't know how
[01:45] <Yodude> can someone help me with my tar.gz file after i did ./configure?
[01:46] <GNUtoo2> Yodude:???
[01:46] <coNP> Yodude: what do you want to compile?
[01:46] <Yodude> banshee
[01:46] <coNP> Yodude: ./configure ; make ; make install ?
[01:46] <Yodude> the newest version 0.11.6
[01:46] <Yodude> coNP: i didn't understand what u said
[01:46] <Yodude> i did ./configure
[01:46] <Yodude> but i don't know where to go from here
[01:47] <GNUtoo2> Yodude:you normaly untar before compiling
[01:47] <Yodude> how do i actually install the working program
[01:47] <Yodude> i extracted it
[01:47] <Yodude> than compiled
[01:47] <okias> Hi i have problem: i have amd64 and beryl with nvidia-glx(nvidia 6600). Black color is showing bad(in video and in desktop). Thx PS: Sry my english is bad.
[01:47] <gemini9> i am having problem with adpet manager locked-down
[01:47] <coNP> Yodude: okay, now type "make"
[01:48] <The1> hi all
 $ git-clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel
 where to add this line to fix my grafic driver or install it
[01:49] <pwnzer> Hey guys slight issue.... IM ON WINDOWS :( my Ubuntu Gui will not appear i can see the login screen and login and all goes well but i never seen the gnome splash all i see is a background.. even let it sit there nothing
[01:49] <pwnzer> any help?
[01:49] <CRHZ> pwnzer: laptop/desktop ?
[01:49] <pwnzer> desktop
[01:50] <Yodude> coNP: k i did
[01:50] <CRHZ> dual/single monitor?
[01:50] <Yodude> coNP: now what
[01:50] <pwnzer> single
[01:50] <coNP> Yodude: is it donE?
[01:50] <crocd> could be the resolution is wrong or the desktop hasnt been installed
[01:50] <pwnzer> was too lazy to configure a dual head setup :P
[01:50] <will_> I think I overwrote my Windows partition. How can I recover it?
[01:50] <GNUtoo2> why edgy eft kills mu qemu process?
[01:50] <CRHZ> pwnzer: What is your graphics card
[01:50] <pwnzer> well... ive been on it b4
[01:50] <pwnzer> at radeon 9600xt
[01:50] <coNP> Yodude: now "sudo apt-get install checkinstall" and "run checkinstall"
[01:50] <CRHZ> will_: If you overwrote a partition I think its toast
[01:50] <jwtodd> i installed the network manager applet and it shows no network connection but clearly i do ... i am chatting w/ u all this very moment on the same system. any ideas?
[01:50] <pwnzer> CRHZ: Ati Radeon 9600xt
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak_> pwnzer: good luck, i never got that exact card to work with Ubuntu, had a similar experience to what you get
[01:51] <NO_DAL_MOLIN> ;(
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak_> ati sucks when it comes to Linux
[01:51] <will_> CRHZ: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[01:51] <pwnzer> I had the card working fine after several hours of tweaking but then i turned off onboard sound within my bios and now the gui doesnt appeae
[01:51] <will_> CRHZ: I can see both my old FAT32 filesystems with that.
[01:51] <pwnzer> i dont think the sound has anything o do with it tho... seems irrelevant
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak_> should be
[01:52] <pwnzer> i had it happen ocne before and i just restarted the comp and it worked fine
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak_> i had an ATI 9550 that worked pretty good under Linux,
[01:52] <MarcM> will_: if it's changed and formatted, it's gone
[01:52] <pwnzer> but i restarted the x server
[01:52] <pwnzer> and the comp
[01:52] <pwnzer> to no avail
 $ git-clone git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel
 where to add this line to fix my grafic driver or install it
[01:53] <pwnzer> is there some command i could issue?
[01:53] <will_> MarchM: so, even though I can see the remains of it it's still inaccessible.
[01:53] <Arcad4> sudo rm -rf /
[01:53] <oritemis> I am getting this error while making, someone get an idea? :launcher.c: In function 'kiba_launcher_load_new_icon':
[01:53] <oritemis> launcher.c:1004: error: 'KibaObject' has no member named 'bg_svg_handle'
[01:53] <Yodude> coNP: sorry i didn't understand what do i do after i install "checkinstall"?
[01:53] <Yodude> i type "checkinstall" in the terminal?
[01:53] <quaal> anyone know if there is a program i can get for ubuntu that will work like osx where you take the mouse to the corner of the screen and something pops up, like the dashboard ?
[01:53] <brann> how easy is it to migrate from edgy amd64 to eadgy 32bits ?
[01:53] <Daverocks> pwnzer: do not do "sudo rm -rf /". it will totally kill your system.
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak_> why does compiling from source need to be so comple
[01:53] <coNP> Yodude: type "sudo checkinstall"
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak_> complex
[01:54] <adz21c_> hi, i am on a machine running dapper and sometimes X failed to start, I checked the logs and only error i see is this "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy", where can i get this file?
[01:54] <pwnzer> daverocks: yea i wasnt going to
[01:54] <will_> quall: You can add a new dock that automatically hides itself.
[01:54] <quaal> IndyGunFreak, it isnt. ./configure make install
[01:54] <quaal> 2 step process
[01:54] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak_: What are you compiling?
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak_> quaal: i always end up in dependency hell.
[01:54] <will_> quall: Actually I think they're called panels. :P
[01:54] <quaal> IndyGunFreak, ah.. thats never fun
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak_> ardchoille: nothing.. it was just a general statement from my experiences
[01:54] <Arcad4> sorry about that command i was gonna use it on me :(
[01:55] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak_: Ah, ok
[01:55] <quaal> will_, have you used osx ?
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak_> ardchoille: i've learned that if its not in the ubuntu repositories, or doesn't have a repo available, i don't need it..lol
[01:55] <will_> Once, I know how t works though.
[01:55] <coNP> void^, Tomcat_ can you report this bug on #ubuntu-doc, please
[01:55] <quaal> will_, hmm
[01:55] <will_> I have researched it.
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak_> one of these days though, i'm gonna work on getting better at compiling
[01:55] <quaal> i forget the name of it.. you can set it up to have active corners
[01:56] <quaal> where it will pop up the dashboard or whatever
[01:56] <ardchoille> IndyGunFreak_: Me too, I've never had to compile anyting while using Ubuntu.
[01:56] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> any wizards here who can help me with my crashed gnome-panel...? it'd be nice to get my system back up so i continue working
[01:56] <will_> I'm not sure of what you're saying.
[01:56] <ardchoille> I probably would be hard pressed to remember how to compile.
[01:56] <Yodude> coNP: i'm getting installation failed
[01:56] <Daverocks> UbuntuN00B_HBG: if you're desperate, you could use a different desktop environment :P
[01:57] <Enselic> !irda
[01:57] <ubotu> Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[01:57] <quaal> will_, i'll find the correct term, 1sec
[01:57] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: ...mmm...
[01:57] <ardchoille> UbuntuN00B_HBG: Usually a crashing panel means an applet isn't playing fairly.
[01:57] <will_> quall: Okay.
[01:57] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks:well... Id really like to get this up and running again....
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak_> ardchoille: thats actually what attracted me to Ubuntu, id tried a bazillion distros, closed i ever came to a 100%, was Fedoara, then i tried ubuntu, and actually made 1005.
[01:58] <quaal> will_, its called active screen corners, with Expose
[01:58] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> ardchoille: any ideas of how to hunt for the problem?
[01:58] <will_> Hm...
[01:58] <will_> quall: never heard of it.
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak_> it is good to have a solid understanding of compiling, make etc, just in case though, and while i doubt my understanding is "solid", i could do it with proper handholding.. :)
[01:58] <shiv> Daverocks, This is realy scary people telling this command to remove all the hard drives content. Can this be put on top of the channel start in red to make it more aware to people
[01:58] <ardchoille> UbuntuN00B_HBG: No, but ##gnome has helped me quite a bit with gnome problems.. if you can catch them when they're awake.
[01:59] <will_> quall: I get it.
[01:59] <adz21c_> hi, i am on a machine running dapper and sometimes X failed to start, I checked the logs and only error i see is this "error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy", where can i get this file? would this even be the cause of my problems? If that's the case then why does it do it intermitantly?
[01:59] <Yodude> coNP: please help me i don't want to lose three hours of work
[01:59] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> ardchoille: ill see if anyones awake there!
[01:59] <will_> You want a menubar to popup when you mouse over a certain area?
[01:59] <chable> anyone here skilled in ddr2 timing setup ?
[01:59] <will_> quall: You want a menubar to popup when you mouse over a certain area?
[01:59] <okias> Hi i have problem: i have amd64 and beryl with nvidia-glx(nvidia 6600). Black color is showing bad(in video and in desktop). Thx PS: Sry my english is bad.
[02:00] <quaal> will_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=317393
[02:00] <will_> So, guys, Windows is dead right?
[02:00] <quaal> what is compiz ?
[02:00] <quaal> or complz
[02:00] <jatt> sort of
[02:00] <quaal> will_, as far as i'm concerned, yes
[02:00] <jatt> at least for me :)
[02:00] <sorinara> '
[02:01] <will_> quall: see if you can apt-get it.
[02:01] <will_> quall: it being compiz.
[02:01] <ardchoille> UbuntuN00B_HBG: Do you remember what you were doing with the panel just before this problem?
[02:01] <Yodude> coNP: are you there?
[02:02] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> ardchoille: yeah.... just clicked the start icon to launch an app... :P well... not really... well... wasnt working with any of the system files anyway...
[02:02] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> ardchoille: the only thing I can think of...
[02:02] <coNP> Yodude: then try to run "sudo make install"
[02:02] <coNP> Yodude: altough this is not recommended...
[02:03] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> ardchoille: is that Ive been scanning images with XSANE since yesterday... and when I start it I get a warning that I try to run it as root which apparently is really bad (well... I ignored is since I executed it as an ordnary user)
[02:03] <stork> is it possible to clean up my ubuntu installation without reformatting?
[02:03] <ardchoille> UbuntuN00B_HBG: The only thing I can think of is this. All your panel applet settings are listed in ~/.gconf/apps/panel/applets If it were me, I 'd log out, go to a tty, rename that directory and log back in to see if that resets everyting. You can build your panel back up later if all is well.
[02:04] <mterwoord> hi everybody
[02:04] <Anubis> i get this error while installing AIGLX : "Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-28-386" can someone help ??
[02:04] <ec_> hello, edgy eft kills my qemu process...how do i get rid of that?
[02:04] <Zaza> Hi. When I recompile the kernel, do I have to recompile all the modules also?
[02:04] <ardchoille> ec_: You can't get rid of Edgy
[02:04] <pwnzer> Im having a problem.... I can see the login.. go to login... but then nothing happens?
[02:05] <CRHZ> If I want to install KDE in addition to GNOME --- would I simply apt-get install kde ?
[02:05] <pwnzer> it just leaves me at the background
[02:05] <CRHZ> also does this give me "kubuntu" in the process?
[02:05] <Anubis> i get this error while installing AIGLX : "Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-28-386" can someone help ??
[02:05] <ec_> ardchoille:there is a process that kills my qemu process...mabe there is a way of disabling it
[02:05] <mackinac> !kde | CRHZ
[02:05] <ubotu> CRHZ: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[02:06] <ec_> ardchoille: i use the official qemu 0.9.0
[02:06] <Yodude> man i'm just gonna download the experimental .deb package from the Debian website
[02:06] <pwnzer> Is there any way to restore my X-server gui?
[02:06] <pwnzer> or at least see a log of errors?
[02:06] <Anubis> i get this error while installing AIGLX : "Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-28-386" can someone help ??
[02:07] <ec_> Anubis:mabe install the dri modules
[02:07] <mackinac> pwnzer:  xsession-errors in your home folder
[02:08] <pwnzer> mackinac: How would i go about accessing that from a command line?
[02:08] <ec_> Anubis:glxinfo | grep rendering
[02:08] <ardchoille> pwnzer: vim ~/.xsession-errors
[02:08] <mackinac> gksudo ~/.xsession-erros
[02:09] <michi> Hi guys, i just installeed ubuntu :D and need to install some - not to say all - codecs, i found a list of recommended codecs, but isn't there a CODEC - Package ??? :S
[02:09] <mackinac> oops - gksudo gedit ~/.xsession-erros
[02:09] <ardchoille> pwnzer: Probably better: cat ~/.xsession-errors
[02:09] <Anubis> this was the command : sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-air-core linux-dri-modules-common linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`
[02:09] <ardchoille> mackinac: He needs it from CLI
[02:09] <stork> is it possible to clean up my ubuntu installation without reformatting?
[02:09] <Zaza> Is compiling the kernel the same in Ubuntu as in Kubunut ?
[02:09] <ec_> michi: seqrch for restricted format in the wiki
[02:09] <mackinac> ah sorry
[02:09] <Zaza> Sorry (spelling) Kubuntu.
[02:10] <mackinac> didn't need sudo either >_<
[02:10] <ardchoille> YEah, saw that, lol
[02:10] <xopher_> Zaza yes, the exact same procedure
[02:10] <michi> ec_ is that what i put in the search mask? restricted format ? - sorry for asking that much ;)
[02:10] <ardchoille> mackinac: It's too early in the morning.
[02:10] <mei> hi sorry does eclipse has any jsp plugins?
[02:10] <mackinac> ardchoille:  :D
[02:10] <ec_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:10] <chable> i cant install any linux with my new hardware
[02:11] <ec_> michi:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:11] <chable> i think the bios is really lame
[02:11] <Zaza> xopher: Thank you. Is ther docs for what you will have to recompile after the kernel, i.e. modules etc?
[02:11] <mei> #eclipse
[02:11] <Anubis> ec_: this was the command i used : "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-air-core linux-dri-modules-common linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`"
[02:11] <chable> DVD rom is not detected
[02:11] <gemini9> anyone here know of a quick auto-load of java?
[02:11] <xopher_> Zaza well nothing except for eg. nvidia-glx and other modules part of the linux-restricted-modules package
[02:12] <chable> i can boot from dvd rom , but not install
[02:12] <ec_> Anubis:first do you have 3D acceleration and what is your graphic card
[02:12] <Anubis> yes
[02:12] <Anubis> and i installed Nvidia drivers
[02:12] <daveR> Hi, I am using this: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html to get my dual screens working.  it works fine but i want one screen to have a taller resolution (1024 high) and the other to be smaller (768). any ideas on how i do this?
[02:12] <Zaza> xopher: Thanks again. I was nervous about encrypted fs breaking after a kernel recompile.
[02:12] <Daverocks> Anubis: i don't know if there will be a package with that exact name, look at what other packages have linux-dri-modules in them
[02:12] <xopher_> Zaza oh, well if that
[02:12] <xopher_> eh
[02:13] <ec_> Anubis:try XGL instead
[02:13] <christian_> .
[02:13] <xopher_> if that's not part of the original kernel, then you have to build that too
[02:13] <xopher_> basically all third party modules you've built will need to be rebuilt
[02:13] <Anubis> i have Ubuntu Daper and i read that i must install it in order to use Beryl
[02:13] <michi> ec_: thx a lot man ^^, get back to you , if I'm having problems - if thats fine with you :P
[02:14] <will-AFK> I can see the Windows partition but I can't access it.
[02:14] <quaal> oh. damn
[02:14] <quaal> compiz is a window manager
[02:14] <Zaza> xopher: Thanks for the advise. Do you mean any modules that came from muliverse, etc?
[02:14] <michi> will-AFK had the same problem, windows partition is nfts?
[02:15] <ec_> Anubis: i don't know a lot about 3D Desktop but i wonder if aiglx works with nvidia cards
[02:15] <will-AFK> michi: Partition is FAT32.
[02:15] <ec_> Anubis:ask here if it wors
[02:15] <ec_> Anubis:ask here if it work
[02:15] <quaal> does anyone know what is best between xgl/beryl/compiz etc
[02:16] <Anubis> ec_: Does AIGLX work with NVIDIA cards ?
[02:16] <stork> !wifi
[02:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:16] <michi> :( i see ... well I just installed ubuntu, so i'm not a pro ... - can't help you then
[02:16] <michi> :(
[02:16] <adam0509> XGL is not a WM like beryl and compiz
[02:16] <adam0509> AIGLX works with geforce 2 and more cards
[02:16] <gemini9> am trying to install java and beryl
[02:16] <hagabaka> can i use the "rename" command to automatically rename every "file" to "file.txt"?
[02:16] <ec_> adam0509:ok
[02:17] <hagabaka> where file is any string
[02:17] <Anubis> ok but i get that stupid error
[02:17] <__doc__> you know selling linux to friends is really hard when you go like "ohyeah and you've got only 8-bit colors and no wireless on your laptop"
[02:17] <adam0509> WM = window manager
[02:17] <quaal> adam0509, oh
[02:17] <hagabaka> i thought i could use rename 's/(.+)/\1.txt/', but it doesn't work
[02:17] <quaal> adam0509, so which between beryl/compiz is better
[02:17] <quaal> adam0509, or are they just personal preference
[02:17] <zmeiat_joro> I'm getting this on iftop: 239.255.255.250                                                  => 192.168.1.1                                                          0b      0b      0b
[02:17] <zmeiat_joro>                                                                  <=                                                                      0b   2.58Kb  1.29Kb
[02:17] <Anubis> and i did exactly as it is said in "http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Dapper_with_AIGLX#Install_AIGLX"
[02:18] <hdxx> quaal: beryl
[02:18] <eltese> __doc__: then fix your color and wireless =))
[02:18] <adam0509> quaal,  beryl use a mass effect, compiz use soft effects
[02:18] <ompaul> !paste | zmeiat_joro
[02:18] <ubotu> zmeiat_joro: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:18] <mark01> hagabaka,  just write a short 5 line shell script to do it.
[02:18] <quaal> adam0509, mass/soft ? huh
[02:18] <adam0509> quaal, the best is to try yourself
[02:18] <adam0509> I mean
[02:18] <Zaza> xopher:appreciate the help, bfn.
[02:18] <adam0509> with beryl you can do much more than compiz
[02:18] <quaal> ok
[02:18] <quaal> cool
[02:18] <quaal> thanks gusy
[02:18] <quaal> guys
[02:19] <Anubis> adam0509 : in order to use beryl do is necesary need AIGLX ?
[02:19] <quaal> hmm
[02:19] <ompaul> !enter quaal
[02:19] <daveR> adam0509: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX - says all nvidia graphics chips are support by beta
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter quaal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <evanggard> hi
[02:19] <ompaul> !enter | quaal
[02:19] <__doc__> eltese: the 8-bit color is because the bios of the chipset in the revision you can get does not seem to conform the reverse engineered i810 driver and also doesn't react well to 845patch
[02:19] <quaal> i apt-get install beryl
[02:19] <ubotu> quaal: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:19] <evan_> WWTTTTFFFFFFFF??!?!1!     After going back into my bios and turning the onboard sound back on i can now login as normal?!
[02:20] <evan_> yet when i turn it off i cant
[02:20] <adam0509> to use Beryl/Compiz you need AIGLX or XGL. AIGLX is better than XGL, but only useable by Nvidia cards
[02:20] <quaal> but it didnt find it
[02:20] <__doc__> eltese: the wireless doesn't work because whatever combination of kernel and ndiswrapper I use, it won't find that a valid driver.
[02:20] <elias_> hello!
[02:20] <__doc__> eltese: there really isn't much I can do.
[02:20] <ompaul> quaal, that is better in #ubuntu-effects
[02:20] <jatt> don't mess with the bios
[02:20] <__doc__> eltese: and I more or less wasted my weekend on that
[02:20] <evan_> i need to disable my onboard sound....
[02:20] <evan_> so my sb audigy ls will work properly
[02:20] <Anubis> adam0508 : how do i install AIGLX cause i get this error Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-28-386
[02:21] <Anubis> ?
[02:21] <adam0509> er... don't know... strange
[02:21] <elias_> I did: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. After it finished and got only one error, I try when I login to choose KDE but there is only gnome, any ideas?
[02:21] <Mattias> quaal: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[02:21] <quaal> matti, thanks i just found that on the #ubuntu-effects topic
[02:22] <Anubis> i used this command : sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-air-core linux-dri-modules-common linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`
[02:22] <adam0509> I think beginners should wait 7.04 Feist Fawn to install AIGLX/Beryl, it's not very stable for the moment
[02:22] <quaal> it isnt?
[02:22] <Mattias> adam0509: works 100% here ^_^
[02:22] <quaal> damn..
[02:22] <adam0509> thus, with XGL you cannot play any 3D games
[02:22] <adam0509> and with AIGLX seems quite difficult too
[02:22] <Okita> I've never made a .deb package before, and i want to use svn-buildpackage--but none of the docs mention a control file
[02:22] <Okita> Don't I need one of those?
[02:23] <arigold> hi all - I am trying to use software updates GUI for the first time on dapper.It keeps telling me that there is a network problem. The sources.list is config'ed for ubuntu/ and I changed to /ubuntu/dists/
[02:23] <arigold> but it is telling me now there is a network problem
[02:23] <arigold> any ideas?
[02:23] <Will0> Are there any free MMOFPSs for Linux?
[02:23] <Okita> Will0: bzflag? =)
[02:24] <Will0> What's that?
[02:24] <zmeiat_joro> actually, I just got worried because I get this in "active network services": tcp 127.0.0.1, ports 2208, 1623, 631, State- LISTEN; udp 0.0.0.0 port 68, State - [blank] . This looks wrong...
[02:24] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Daverocks: gnome-panel-problem solved!
[02:24] <slippyr4> will0: unreal tournament 2004 runs on linux
[02:24] <daveR> does anyone know of software for widgets and feeds etc?
[02:24] <daveR> which sits on the desktop
[02:24] <Okita> It's a simple 3d game where you're a tank and play CTF basically
[02:24] <Will0> slippyr4: Free?
[02:24] <__doc__> wireless and graphics support in linux has to get a ***lot*** better.
[02:24] <Mattias> Will0: Nexuiz is great FPS game
[02:24] <slippyr4> no. although you'd find it for 5 in your local game shop
[02:24] <jussi01> daveR: gdesklets?
[02:24] <Quiyu> Bonjour
[02:24] <NightCircle> Will0: Warow r00ls Nexuiz imo :P
[02:25] <ompaul> !fr
[02:25] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:25] <Mattias> NightCircle: Warsow sucks compared to Nexuiz :D
[02:25] <Frogzoo> !fr | Quiyu bonjour
[02:25] <ubotu> Quiyu bonjour: please see above
[02:25] <arigold> hi all - I am trying to use software updates GUI for the first time on dapper.It keeps telling me that there is a network problem. The sources.list is config'ed for ubuntu/ and I changed to /ubuntu/dists/
[02:25] <daveR> jussi01: perfect, thanks
[02:25] <arigold> but it is telling me now there is a network problem
[02:25] <arigold> any ideas?
[02:25] <jussi01> daveR: np's
[02:25] <Industrial> How do I restart daemons like apache2? I'm used to archlinux where its just "/etc/rd.d/hppd restart"
[02:25] <jussi01> !enter | arigold
[02:25] <ubotu> arigold: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:26] <NightCircle> Mattias: You really think so? :o
[02:26] <Okita> Industrial: apachectl -restart?
[02:26] <elias_> how can I load KDE?
[02:26] <eltese> elias_: Do you have the kde-desktop?
[02:27] <elias_> yes I did: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:27] <Industrial> Okita: whats this? I see an apache2ctl but it has no -restart.
[02:27] <eltese> does anyone know if any linux distro have support for direct x 10?
[02:27] <coNP> elias_: do you have gdm or kdm installed?
[02:27] <jussi01> elias: just log out, and choose kde in sessions on the login page
[02:27] <Boohbah> eltese: no
[02:27] <eltese> elias_: Under choose kde in the sessions when you log out =)
[02:27] <eltese> damnit1
[02:27] <eltese> !
[02:28] <elias_> yes, KDE it doesn't appear
[02:28] <jussi01> eltese: never heard of anyone having it yet...
[02:28] <MybJames> !moo
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <wrox> an offtopic DOS question: how can i put more commands after FOR %%VAR IN (X Y Z) DO <right here> ?
[02:28] <elias_> there is only gnome
[02:28] <quaal> wow
[02:28] <quaal> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:28] <quaal> did a helluva lot
[02:28] <wrox> stupidity of win / dos amazes me every time
[02:28] <michi> ec_: just to let you know, it all works fine now ... thx ....GLAD :D :D :D
[02:28] <quaal> even did stuff to grub
[02:28] <coNP> wrox: I don't know, worst case run a batch file with parameters
[02:29] <quaal> gah
[02:29] <jussi01> elias_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[02:29] <quaal> even requires system restart
[02:29] <eltese> jussi01: Was hoping for nvidia to release their directx 10 drivers to linux as well.. They have been so good at it so far ;D
[02:29] <wrox> coNP: ok thx
[02:29] <coNP> yw, wrox
[02:29] <Industrial> Okita: ?
[02:29] <jussi01> eltese: I think everyones waiting for it
[02:29] <Mattias> lol, ubuntu crashed >,< or whole linux kernel crashed :D
[02:29] <jussi01> eltese: just dont hold your breath waiting... ;)
[02:30] <eltese> jussi01: Yeah =) saw that right now ;p
[02:30] <Mattias> all i did was starting supertux while beryl was on :P
[02:30] <quaal> Mattias, in beryl ?
[02:30] <Industrial> How do I restart daemons like apache2? I'm used to archlinux where its just "/etc/rd.d/hppd restart"
[02:30] <quaal> just when you were saying its stable :o
[02:30] <eltese> use compiz ;D
[02:30] <Mattias> quaal: it worked on my other 3d games :P
[02:30] <wrox> Industrial: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[02:30] <soundray> Industrial: the debian/ubuntu way is 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart'
[02:30] <Mattias> quaal: ill test another game, then that game again :D
[02:30] <Industrial> thanks :] 
[02:30] <wrox> soundray: :)
[02:30] <quaal> hmm
[02:30] <elias_>  http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings_6.10-61_all.deb
[02:31] <elias_> it says it couldn't get this
[02:31] <quaal> Mattias, you have nvidia card?
[02:31] <elias_> and to try update
[02:31] <wrox> !beryl dock when
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl dock when - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <elias_> or --fix-missing
[02:31] <mackinac> maybe elias_ should try "apt-get update" ?
[02:31] <elias_> which means?
[02:31] <soundray> !enter | elias_
[02:31] <ubotu> elias_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:32] <mackinac> ... and then try reinstall
[02:32] <Will0> I'm so dead.
[02:32] <unop> sudo apache2ctl restart
[02:32] <unop> it's a subcommand to apache2ctl, not really a flag/option
[02:32] <jussi01> elias_: have you got all of your repos active?
[02:32] <soundray> elias_: in terminal, run 'sudo apt-get update'
[02:32] <eltese> jussi01 : But they have released their directX10 support for vista (if your using  8800series)
[02:32] <jussi01> eltese: vista? whats that :D
[02:32] <hagabaka> if i serve some files from ubuntu online, do i need to include a license? is that all i need?
[02:32] <Mattias> quaal: yes
[02:32] <arigold> uboto - why does software updates tell me that is could not download all repository indexes?
[02:33] <wrox> jussi01: some spanish meal probably
[02:33] <elias_> and when I run sudo apt-get update, then I should try again the --reinstall?
[02:33] <mackinac> elias_:  yes
[02:33] <jussi01> wrox: maybe... sonds more sout american though...hmmm
[02:33] <soundray> hagabaka: normally, if you supply packages, you have to supply the source packages, too, to comply with the GPL
[02:33] <jussi01> elias_: yes
[02:34] <arigold> why does software updates tell me that is could not download all repository indexes?
[02:34] <wrox> jussi01: i heard one actor with a weird name say that with 'astala' in beginning
[02:34] <elias_> It can't get  http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings_6.10-61_all.deb   :/
[02:34] <Nicon-> seriously. how do I reset a package? I tried to remove it, reinstall it, reconfigure it. but it just will not put in the initial ubuntu configuration files from the package.
[02:34] <hagabaka> i'm not supplying packages. i'm using some files like dictionaries in my small application, and i want to provide them for convenience
[02:34] <Nicon-> I've tried manually purging ALL data containing to the package
[02:34] <jussi01> arigold: because maybe one of your repos is down at the moment
[02:34] <Nicon-> conf files etc
[02:34] <Nicon-> they are just gone
[02:34] <jedi__> Hello. Im using nvid 9629.Beryl wont work ever since the update to this driver. When I load Beryl now, I get no minimise, maximise. HELP
[02:34] <Mattias> odd, now supertux works with beryl :P
[02:35] <Okita> So does anyone know how I can easily make a .deb file?  svn-buildpackage seems to do what I want, but it seems to contradict the basics of making a .deb fiel
[02:35] <jussi01> !enter | Nicon-
[02:35] <ubotu> Nicon-: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:35] <arigold> jessi thanks :-;
[02:35] <hagabaka> sand i'm modifying or sometimes only providing parts of those files, if it's relevant
[02:35] <Frogzoo> Nicon-: apt-get --purge package   then reinstall
[02:35] <hagabaka> *and
[02:35] <Nicon-> Frogzoo: thankyou.
[02:35] <Enselic> Nicon-: I had a gimp problem recently, I did a "$ rm -rf `find . -name gimp`"
[02:35] <mterwoord> hi everybody
[02:35] <zmeiat_joro> so, em, what about these ports? and this suspicious connection? anyone? should I ask somewhere else?
[02:35] <jedi__> g'day
[02:35] <elias_> when it's says try --fix-missing where should I write that?
[02:35] <NightCircle> mterwoord: hi ^^
[02:36] <speedwolf> hi, anyone here got time to help with an ndiswrapper problem?
[02:36] <jussi01> !hi | jedi__
[02:36] <ubotu> jedi__: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:36] <soundray> hagabaka: again, you have to supply the source of your modifications to be in compliance.
[02:36] <Nicon-> Enselic: that will not put back th files while reinstallinfg
[02:36] <hagabaka> hmm
[02:36] <Nicon-> Frogzoo: you still need an operation with --purge. I tried remove and that gave the same result
[02:36] <jedi__> Hello
[02:36] <soundray> elias_: try without --fix-missing first, since you've just done the update.
[02:36] <Enselic> Nicon-: Then I'm not sure what you mean. You want to completely reinstall while not removing all files
[02:37] <Enselic> ?
[02:37] <uaspi> hi, I'm a newbie with ubuntu drivers, does any one have experience in building the tifmxx driver???
[02:37] <jussi01> !ask | jedi__
[02:37] <ubotu> jedi__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:37] <tim167> can i get my TV card "AverTV 007 Go Plus" working on ubuntu ?
[02:37] <unska_> how can i hide a folder?
[02:37] <mterwoord> i'm runnin ubuntu 6.06 on vmware server, but it's slow as hell, i read on several places that it has to do with the timer used by the kernel of the guest then. how to workaround this?
[02:37] <hagabaka> can't i just point out where they can be located, not on my server?
[02:37] <Enselic> unska_: prefix it will .
[02:37] <NightCircle> unska_: Example: .banana
[02:37] <Enselic> unska_: will = with
[02:37] <Nicon-> Enselic: when I install mysql-server it genereates some initial databeses and some configuration files under /etc. I removed mysql-server and purged these files. but the initial files are just gone
[02:37] <gemini9> am trying to install java and beryl'
[02:37] <gemini9> ;          ,.
[02:38] <unska_> that fixed it =)
[02:38] <unska_> thanks
[02:38] <jedi__> OK. How do I get my borders on my windows back.Im using beryl & recently updated to 9629
[02:38] <elias_> soundray:  I tryed without --fix-missing
[02:38] <elias_> but I got the same error
[02:38] <Enselic> jedi__: make sure there is a window manager running, open up a terminal and write 'metacity'
[02:38] <mterwoord> noone?
[02:38] <uaspi> any one with tifmxx experience here?
[02:38] <speedwolf> I've installed the windows drivers for my usb wifi card via ndiswrapper successfully, it shows up with lsusb and ndiswrapper -l as correctly installed, but doesn't show in my network settings
[02:39] <Enselic> mterwoord: if someone knows, the will tell you
[02:39] <hagabaka> it doesn't make sense though...when a program's version 1.1 is released, which is a modification of 1.0, it doesn't need to include 1.0 to comply with GNU license, does it?
[02:39] <Nicon-> Enselic: I want it to redo the process where it puts in place the initial empty database and the initial configuration files.
[02:39] <mterwoord> hagabaka, sorry...
[02:39] <soundray> hagabaka: you need a lawyer to answer that. I've heard (note hearsay) that the FSF accepts that in some cases people supply binaries and a link to an upstream site that has the sources.
[02:39] <jedi__> Enselic: I have one running
[02:39] <yaman> need help when i download the opera package from it's site i cant install it its giving this error message "the package is maybe corrupted or you not allow to open the file check the permission"
[02:39] <wrox> jedi__: reinstall the nvidia driver
[02:39] <hagabaka> oh
[02:40] <wrox> jedi__: i've had this problem and the libGL.so.1 was fscked up
[02:40] <soundray> hagabaka: no, if you're supplying 1.1 binaries, all you have to supply 1.1 sources, not 1.0
[02:40] <Enselic> Nicon-: Exactly what does purge mean btw?
[02:40] <jedi__> wrox, i did that, but might give it another go
[02:40] <speedwolf> yaman: you can install opera through automatix
[02:40] <soundray> elias_: can you pastebin the output from 'sudo apt-get -f install' pls
[02:40] <jussi01> !automatix | yaman
[02:40] <ubotu> yaman: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:40] <nykkto> speedwolf: you don't get a listing for your adaptor in ifconfig or iwconfig?
[02:40] <Nicon-> Enselic: nvm. tailed the wrong person for followupquestions.
[02:40] <mahound> hell
[02:41] <mahound> hello
[02:41] <Mattias> jedi__: redo http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia  ? :P
[02:41] <Yodude> hey how can i remove a package i installed from tar.gz?
[02:41] <jussi01> !hi | mahound
[02:41] <mahound> i'm having serious problem installing feisty
[02:41] <ubotu> mahound: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:41] <hagabaka> if i just have a textfile1 and textfile2 modified from textfile1, are they treated the same way as source and binary?
[02:41] <ltibor65> Hi everybody! Can somebody help me? How can I use the hungarian characters in a terminal window too?
[02:41] <Nicon-> Frogzoo: the --purge still requires an operation. I added remove but that did not recreate the files when I later on installed the package again
[02:41] <speedwolf> nykkto: I'll check, I'm a ubuntu noob, so I'm not sure about all the steps
[02:41] <elias_> everything is 0
[02:41] <jussi01> !ubuntu+1
[02:41] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:41] <nykkto> speedwolf: those are termianal commands
[02:41] <mahound> thanks
[02:42] <yaman> speedwolf - ubotu : thanx
[02:42] <miranda82> i cannot import my photos anymore, when i click on import i cannot import my photos anymore, when i click on import nothing happens... with fspot it works, but not with gthumb... any ideas?nothing happens... with fspot it works, but not with gthumb... any ideas?
[02:42] <soundray> hagabaka: no, textfiles are considered 'transparent', meaning that there is no obligation to supply anything other than the end product.
[02:42] <hagabaka> ok
[02:42] <Yodude> coNP: i decided to stick with ubuntu stable releases, how can i remove the installation i compiled?
[02:42] <elias_> soundray: everything is 0 from that command
[02:42] <speedwolf> nykkto: ifconfig lists my wired connection correctly, iwconfig tells me that I have no wireless extension installed
[02:42] <coNP> Yodude: type "sudo make uninstall"
[02:43] <soundray> elias_: what's the command that gives you the error?
[02:43] <coNP> Yodude: that seems to be a *wise* decision :)
[02:43] <speedwolf> yaman: yw :)
[02:43] <jedi__> wrox: I saw this as the solution on ubuntuguide - but am having trouble editing that file
[02:43] <Yodude> coNP: YEAH now i really KNWO
[02:43] <jedi__> wrox:The most likely fix is:
[02:43] <jedi__> Change the firstline of /usr/bin/beryl-settings with : From
[02:43] <jedi__>    1. !/usr/bin/env python
[02:43] <jedi__> To
[02:43] <jedi__>    1. !/usr/bin/env python2.5
[02:43] <nykkto> speedwolf: humm what does lsub tel you?
[02:43] <elias_> I try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:43] <Yodude> i will NEVEr install something not in the repo
[02:43] <Yodude> too much trouble for me
[02:43] <elias_> and I think that it can't get
[02:43] <elias_> one file
[02:43] <coNP> elias_: have you restarted gdm since?
[02:43] <jussi01> !pastebin | jedi__
[02:43] <ubotu> jedi__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:44] <soundray> coNP: that's immaterial, isn't it?
[02:44] <wrox> jedi__: don't edit no files.. just reinstall the driver... but first open a terminal and run 'beryl --replace' .. what does it say
[02:44] <elias_> http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings_6.10-61_all.deb
[02:44] <ticki> hi. does anybody know why sometimes a FAT32 partition will become locked and i cannot remove anything even as "root" ?
[02:44] <coNP> soundray: you mean what?
[02:44] <mark01> !WorksForMe
[02:44] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:44] <speedwolf> nykkto: it tells me the info about the usb bus, it correctly says that I have a broadcom based usb wifi stick
[02:44] <Yodude> plus Feisty is 1-2 month away anyway so why not just have "PAtIENCE"?
[02:44] <wrox> just wondering, perhaps ubuntu should adopt this stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobolinux
[02:44] <ticki> why ubuntu would lock the whole partition?
[02:44] <soundray> elias_: I suggest you download that file and install it with 'sudo dpkg -i filename.deb'
[02:44] <speedwolf> nykkto: Bus 002 Device 007: ID 050d:7051 Belkin Components
[02:44] <soundray> coNP: restarting gdm won't help with a package that isn't downloadable.
[02:44] <coNP> soundray: what package?
[02:45] <elias_> coNP what's the gdm?
[02:45] <mahound> does anybody here have an lg lw40?
[02:45] <Nicon-> Seriously. I installed mysql-server. removed it. purged the /etc/mysql dir. reinstalled the package. How can I make ubuntu redo the process to recreate these files...?
[02:45] <nykkto> speedwolf: did you google for the device ID to see if there is a linux driver for it?
[02:45] <jedi__> wrox: nvidia present, xgl absent
[02:45] <Yodude> coNP: lol i forgot that i removed the folder i extracted from tar.gz
[02:45] <soundray> elias_: don't worry about what coNP said, I don't think he meant you
[02:45] <Yodude> so i still have the program
[02:45] <coNP> sorry elias_, soundray
[02:45] <Yodude> how do i uninstall ?
[02:45] <wrox> jedi__: make sure you are using "nvidia" driver in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:45] <nykkto> speedwolf: I've never used ndiswrapper so I don't know much about it
[02:45] <jedi__> wrox: iam
[02:45] <wrox> jedi__: you should be using AIGLX
[02:45] <Yodude> btw it's ok if i have to lose ALLthe core files of banshee
[02:45] <Yodude> i'll get them back later
[02:46] <coNP> Yodude: now the information is lost (what files have been installed), you should get it again, compile it and make uninstall
[02:46] <ahood> Hi all - I just installed Feisty Fawn Herd 4 and I have some feedback to give, how do I do that?
[02:46] <coNP> !ubuntu+1  | ahood
[02:46] <ubotu> ahood: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:46] <jedi__> wrox: ill check the forums again, thanks though
[02:46] <zekebru> D-Link DWL-G520 problems -- in device manager, I see two devices underneath the wireless card. One has logical name ath0, the other wifi0. Why do I get 2 logical names?
[02:46] <ahood> Thanks!
[02:46] <wrox> jedi__: if you played with howtos and edited your files, try to revert those edits
[02:46] <zekebru> Any help would be appreciated.
[02:46] <Yodude> coNP: ok
[02:46] <speedwolf> nykkto: looking now, doesn't look like it, but hopefully someone will have been through the same problems
[02:46] <soundray> ahood: you can post an installation report in the forums, or you can report all the bugs individually, or both.
[02:47] <speedwolf> nykkto: it's annoying, I've managed everything else
[02:47] <elias_> I think that, this file doesn't exist! and it says is something like MD5sum
[02:47] <Enselic> If sudo lshw gives no IrDA information, does that mean I'm screwed if I want my IrDA port on my laptop to work?
[02:47] <wrox> jedi__: as last resort, download nvidia driver from nvidia yourself, and run it with -s option
[02:47] <soundray> ahood: have you seen the list of tests they suggest?
[02:48] <NECIBEX_> slm karde
[02:48] <nykkto> speedwolf: I have a linksys wireless g wusb54g dongle that works well I got it from thingfling  works well in linux
[02:49] <NECIBEX_> trk kardelerimiz yokmu
[02:49] <VincentM1> hi
[02:49] <NECIBEX_> hi
[02:49] <soundray> !tr | NECIBEX_
[02:49] <ubotu> NECIBEX_: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[02:49] <NECIBEX_> kimse yok ama kanalda
[02:49] <VincentM1> NECIBEX_: english would be nice in this chan :)
[02:50] <VincentM1> anyhow
[02:50] <zekebru> Is it normal to have to things listed underneath your wireless card (one called WLAN device, one called Unknown device)?
[02:50] <NECIBEX_> I dont now english :)
[02:50] <VincentM1> hmm
[02:50] <nykkto> zekebru: not to me
[02:50] <soundray> NECIBEX_: /join #ubuntu-tr then
[02:51] <VincentM1> NECIBEX_: type "/join #ubuntu-tr"
[02:51] <NECIBEX_> ubotu kimse yok karde kanalda
[02:51] <zekebru> nykkto: does this mean it doesn't recognize my card? Its a DWL-G520, supposedly supported by 6.10
[02:51] <soundray> !tr > NECIBEX_, read the private message from ubotu
[02:51] <wrox> an offtopic DOS question: how can i put more commands after FOR %%VAR IN (X Y Z) DO <right here> ? anyone?
[02:52] <nykkto> zekebru: if it is a wireless card, it looks like it is detected.
[02:52] <nykkto> zekebru: the unknown device is just theat unknown
[02:52] <soundray> wrox: have you tried separating several with ';'?
[02:52] <wrox> soundray: will try no
[02:52] <wrox> w
[02:52] <VincentM1> how do i install the kubuntu-desktop, without getting all those gnome apps in my kde menu, and vice versa?
[02:53] <soundray> VincentM1: install kubuntu to a separate root partition ;)
[02:53] <zekebru> nykkto: okay. but the unkown device has grabbed the device name wifi0. So, when I try to set up my wifi in the networking app, it's setting it up for wifi0 (the unknown device)
[02:53] <VincentM1> soundray: i only have one linux partition
[02:53] <VincentM1> not going to remove the windows one, as i need windows for school
[02:54] <soundray> VincentM1: resize
[02:54] <VincentM1> wish i was allowed to do so
[02:54] <VincentM1> soundray: hmm
[02:54] <wrox> soundray: doesn't work
[02:54] <jussi01> !enter | VincentM1
[02:54] <ubotu> VincentM1: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:54] <nykkto> zekebru: does it just list the unknown device, or does it list other devices in iwconfig?
[02:54] <soundray> wrox: then you're going to have to call a batch file in that place.
[02:55] <zekebru> nykkto: it lists two devices in iwconfig: the unknown one, and the WLAN one (wifi0 and ath0, respectively)
[02:55] <unska_> could someone help me, due to an unknown reason ive lost all my sounds?
[02:55] <Sammy> hello
[02:55] <soundray> VincentM1: why do you want this separation? I find it quite useful occasionally to start e.g k3b or kword from gnome
[02:55] <wrox> soundray: thanks, was afraid of that... why do people still use windows these days :/
[02:55] <unska_> they worked fine last night and now when i woke up and turned the laptop on, they didnt work
[02:55] <nykkto> zekebru: I'd try to work with the ath0 one then, and see what happens
[02:56] <mahound> ok, i can't install neither dapper, edgy or feisty
[02:56] <soundray> wrox: cygwin with bash or perl an alternative?
[02:56] <jussi01> unska_: have you done any updates/changes
[02:56] <mahound> would anyone give me a hand?
[02:56] <Yodude> coNP: hey i get this error while trying to unnistall
[02:56] <unska_> jussi01, nope
[02:56] <Yodude> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[02:56] <zekebru> nykkto: Okay. I don't know how to set up the network using command line arguments, so I tried the networking connections tool.
[02:56] <nykkto> zekebru: are you using a encrypted network?
[02:56] <zekebru> nykkto: yes
[02:56] <jussi01> mahound: whats your system
[02:56] <coNP> Yodude: then I have no idea :(
[02:56] <Yodude> dam
[02:56] <soundray> mahound: let's start with edgy. How does the install fail?
[02:56] <wrox> soundray: not for remote assistance to average win user
[02:56] <timr> Hi there, I am new to Ubuntu (but not debian). Is there anything like the base config program that I can run at the command line after install.
[02:56] <coNP> Yodude: that is the problem with self-installed programs...
[02:57] <nykkto> zekebru: ahh, well iwconfig is not hard to use, just man iwconfig
[02:57] <coNP> timr: what do you want to confiure?
[02:57] <soundray> wrox: vnc :)
[02:57] <Emperor_Norton> Hi
[02:57] <timr> RAID
[02:57] <mahound> soundray: it's a disk issue
[02:57] <nykkto> zekebru: you have to sudo the commands though
[02:57] <Frogzoo> Yodude: in that instance, do a 'make -n install' - watch what it installs & where, then remove them
[02:57] <VincentM1> soundray: becouse it looks messy, and unproffesional
[02:57] <mahound> soundray: the partitioner will hang
[02:57] <soundray> mahound: we need detail
[02:57] <jussi01> !hi | Emperor_Norton
[02:57] <ubotu> Emperor_Norton: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:57] <zekebru> nykkto: okay. I'll give it a try.
[02:57] <mahound> want a dmesg log?
[02:57] <Yodude> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[02:57] <soundray> mahound: no, not right now
[02:57] <coNP> I guess there is the usual mdadm package
[02:57] <Yodude> i get shis error
[02:57] <wrox> soundray: or send an clickme.exe via email, which will download and install latest ubuntu (win user probably wouldn't notice)
[02:57] <timr> coNP, even a good RIAD tutorial would do
[02:58] <coNP> Yodude: then first run ./configure
[02:58] <timr> *RAID
[02:58] <mahound> soundray: so, what info should i provide?
[02:58] <coNP> timr: not software raid, then?
[02:58] <soundray> mahound: have you tried the alternate install?
[02:58] <Yodude> k
[02:58] <Frogzoo> Yodude: well if this makefile can't install, what's theh problem?
[02:58] <Yodude> man i am SO! done with tarballs
[02:58] <nykkto> zekebru: the problem could be the "password" thing you may have to type in the long code to get it working in linux
[02:58] <mahound> soundray: no, this is a perfectly normal i386
[02:58] <Yodude> i wish they never existed!
[02:58] <coNP> Yodude: first ./configure, then make uninstall
[02:58] <mahound> an lg lw40 laptop
[02:58] <ulti2001> hello
[02:58] <ulti2001> wow
[02:58] <soundray> Yodude: I vividly remember telling you to install ubuntu packages instead
[02:58] <coNP> Yodude: *deb pcakges are also built from tarballs :)
[02:58] <zekebru> nykkto: yeah, I've done that.
[02:58] <timr> yeh, software is ok. I have adopted a system though and I am unsure if RAID is working
[02:58] <ulti2001> i finally found a place to talk to people in
[02:58] <coNP> timr: oh  I see
[02:59] <ulti2001> ubuntu rules
[02:59] <mumblesmac> yeh
[02:59] <VincentM1> Yodude: you say that  now, but in a few years you'll see that tarballs are actually better than debs or rpms
[02:59] <timr> I know there are 2 x 250 SATA drives
[02:59] <ulti2001> now i just need to figure out how to use it
[02:59] <wrox> make
[02:59] <yaman> what is the best site to get the deb free softwares ???
[02:59] <elias_> hm I google the think it couldn't find the 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and I manually downloading it and installing it (http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings_6.10-61.1_all.deb)
[02:59] <Yodude> yes but i'm not a devellopoer so i won't never ever tar something again
[02:59] <coNP> timr: cat /proc/mdstat
[02:59] <wrox> this channel doesn't have a Makefile
[02:59] <Frogzoo> !docs | ulti2001
[02:59] <ubotu> ulti2001: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[02:59] <soundray> mahound: you might fare better with the alternate CD, it has a text-based installer and partitioner with fewer dependencies.
[02:59] <elias_> I hope that this will work
[02:59] <ulti2001> nice thanks
[02:59] <timr> yes, I get: Personalities :
[02:59] <timr> unused devices: <none>
[02:59] <ulti2001> that what i need to know
[02:59] <mumblesmac> anyone got the link for recovering your password in resque mode?
[02:59] <mark01> @find UB40*Falling
[02:59] <soundray> mahound: does the graphical partitioner throw errors that you see in dmesg?
[02:59] <ulti2001> okay will be back after reading all this
[02:59] <ulti2001> peace out guys
[02:59] <elias_> ok It is installed :D
[02:59] <mahound> soundray: yes
[02:59] <unop> elias_,  errm, why are you doing that?
[02:59] <zekebru> nykkto: how do I attach the wireless networking extensions to the device? It says they are attached to the unknown device, but not the WLAN device.
[03:00] <snille> Hi all! :)
[03:00] <jussi01> yaman: synaptic in your system menu has the good stuff
[03:00] <HD> i need install debian in inspiron 9400.  know link for this?
[03:00] <soundray> mahound: what are they (if you can summarize in one line)?
[03:00] <bdina> has anyone had any luck with vlc in firefox??
[03:00] <elias_> unop:  what?
[03:00] <unop> elias_,  manually installing a package
[03:00] <nykkto> zekebru: humm, that is weird, I have no answer for it
[03:00] <quaal> ahaahaaaa
[03:00] <quaal> the windows are bouncy !
[03:01] <jussi01> well done quaal!!
[03:01] <mahound> soundray: something like " ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0"
[03:01] <quaal> heh thanks
[03:01] <zekebru> nykkto: okay. Do you know how to manually set the logical names? I would like to just switch the logical names and see if that helps.
[03:01] <roicominutsoup> hi all, does someone know how to add a gnome thumbnailer for a new mime type ?
[03:01] <timr> coNP~ should I see something other than unused devices: <none>
[03:01] <Yodude> coNP: when i uninstall it added a "home" shortcut to Places in the menu bar
[03:01] <elias_> It couldn't find it in the repository maybe dunno. I will try to begin a new session now
[03:01] <Yodude> coNP: how can i remove that?
[03:01] <soundray> mahound: oh, I've never seen one of those, but they sound awfully like a failing disk...
[03:01] <wrox> bdina: i think i did
[03:01] <nykkto> zekebru: humm interesting idea
[03:02] <mahound> soundray: i've seen some in the forums
[03:02] <mahound> soundray: and the disk works perfetcly
[03:02] <nykkto> zekebru: is this a PCcard, usb or what?
[03:02] <bdina> wrox: cause i cannot seem to get my 0.8.6 plugin working on 6.10
[03:02] <soundray> mahound: was this the feisty attempt?
[03:02] <zekebru> nykkto: it's in a PCI slot.
[03:02] <mahound> yep
[03:02] <nykkto> zekebru: ahh, OK.
[03:02] <Yodude> coNP: please tell me how do i remove this menu entry?
[03:03] <Emperor_Norton> probably a stupid question, but how do I change my resolution to bigger than 1024x768?
[03:03] <quaal> HAHA
[03:03] <quaal> my screen is rotating on a cube!
[03:03] <wrox> bdina: my version reads 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1  .. i use backports and universe
[03:03] <Gunirus> quaal: So? :p
[03:03] <Mattias> quaal: nice, sounds like you got it installed :)
[03:03] <coNP> timr: if you have sw raid devices, yes
[03:03] <Ice_Wewe> Emperor_Norton: add a higher resolution to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:03] <nykkto> zekebru: is this running off  a linux driver, or a ndiswrapper?
[03:03] <coNP> Yodude: use ./configure first, then make uninstall
[03:03] <quaal> Gunirus, so, i've only previously seen this on youtube. :P
[03:03] <jussi01> Emperor Norton: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:03] <ElbridgeGerry> Hey all.
[03:03] <Gunirus> quaal: ok
[03:03] <bdina> wrox: i think that was the same ver i was using... i get a "no video" output in the browser
[03:03] <soundray> mahound: the ATA subsystem has changed between edgy and feisty, which is maybe why the error looks unfamiliar. What kind of error does the edgy partitioner throw?
[03:03] <Emperor_Norton> cheers
[03:04] <Mattias> quaal: few shortcuts: ctrl+alt + click and drag,     alt+ scroll in a window.  few stuff you can do :P
[03:04] <zekebru> nykkto: linux driver. actually, only the WLAN device (ath0) has a driver. The unknown one does not have any driver at all.
[03:04] <Emperor_Norton> I'm installing beryl now
[03:04] <quaal> nice.. fades it ot
[03:04] <quaal> out
[03:04] <wrox> bdina: i think it depends on the installed codecs then, download the video and try to run off the hdd
[03:04] <nykkto> zekebru: that is just really odd
[03:04] <mahound> soundray: i'll have to run the install again
[03:04] <mahound> soundray: will you wait some minutes, please?
[03:04] <Bluedog> hey guys
[03:04] <zekebru> nykkto: tell me about it. any ideas where I can get more help about device loading in general?
[03:04] <nykkto> zekebru: try removing the modules for the nic and see if the unknown device is still there
[03:05] <soundray> mahound: it's a good idea to stick with a stable release while you're sorting out a problem like that
[03:05] <novice> i replaced the firefox 1.5 folder with new firefox 2.0 folder using nautilus..... but now neither i'm able to open it nor i  can remove it or reinstall it...... its totally locked......
[03:05] <Bluedog> anyone tell me how to make ubuntu update manager work behind a corporate/university firewall proxy system?
[03:05] <ElbridgeGerry> Everytime I log in to anything but the failsafe terminal, the GNOME panel starts to load, but then dissappears and the system freezes. I've tried killall, but that didn't work. What can I do?
[03:05] <zekebru> nykkto: how do I do that?
[03:05] <bdina> wrox: that part works fine -- when i enter the url (into stand-alone player) it works as well, its only the plugin that wont play correctly i guess
[03:05] <novice> wat shld i do now??
[03:05] <soundray> mahound: yes, I'll be around for a few minutes
[03:05] <Yodude> coNP: are you still there? is yes please tell me how do i remove a menu entry in "Places"
[03:05] <Bluedog> putting the proxy.conf address into the network proxy setup window doesnt help..
[03:05] <nykkto> zekebru: lsmod gives you a list of modules that are running
[03:05] <nykkto> zekebru: did you install the nic yourself?
[03:05] <coNP> Yodude: I already told that 2x :)
[03:05] <soundray> novice: which folder have you replaced?
[03:05] <Yodude> oh really? where?
[03:06] <Yodude> did you PM me?
[03:06] <novice> sondray: firefox folder in root directory
[03:06] <wrox> bdina: i cant help then - i also cant play some vids off web and thought it was the codec
[03:06] <zekebru> nykkto: yeah. I built the PC myself. I'm just transitioning from XP pro to Ubuntu.
[03:06] <coNP> Yodude: or you might search for .desktop files in /usr/local
[03:06] <Mattias> quaal: try ctrl+alt+page down. and hold that. so if you have stuff overflowing to the sides, you can unfold the cube to see it all :P
[03:06] <bdina> wrox: oh well -- thanks anyway
[03:06] <soundray> novice: what's the full path of that folder?
[03:06] <zekebru> nykkto: once I get the list of running modules, do I use lsmod to remove them?
[03:06] <novice> /usr/bin/firefox...
[03:06] <nykkto> zekebru: OK I'd do this: turn off remove nic reboot, see if the unknown is still in the system
[03:06] <Mattias> quaal: also keep holding ctrl+alt after that and drag with mouse again while holding mousebutton :P
[03:07] <quaal> ohmygod
[03:07] <zekebru> nykkto: I see.
[03:07] <quaal> 3d effects
[03:07] <nykkto> then reinstall the nic
[03:07] <quaal> makes the windows pop out of the dube
[03:07] <Yodude> coNP: please PM me what you said earlier plz
[03:07] <soundray> novice: /usr/bin/firefox is a file, not a folder
[03:07] <quaal> this is amazing
[03:07] <Mattias> quaal: turned on burn effects and stuff yet? :D
[03:07] <nykkto> zekebru: do an lspci before and after
[03:07] <novice> soundray: wait...
[03:07] <jussi01> quaal: dont worry you will get over it soon... :D
[03:07] <ElbridgeGerry> Every time I try to log into GNOME (even the failsafe GNOME session) it freezes after trying to load the GNOME panel. I'm in the failsafe terminal now, and I've already tried killall. What do I do?
[03:07] <bdina> has anyone played with swapping out the cube image on the top/bottom for beryl?
[03:07] <nykkto> zekebru: and a lsmod to see what modules get loaded
[03:08] <zekebru> nykkto: okay. makes sense
[03:08] <nykkto> zekebru: I am not sure that the unknown is in your nic or not
[03:08] <quaal> Mattias, burn effects.. where is that
[03:08] <novice> soundray: /usr/lib/firefox
[03:08] <soundray> ElbridgeGerry: create a new user, and see if it happens when you login with the new name
[03:08] <thingy> ElbridgeGerry, what does ~/.xsession-errors say?
[03:08] <jussi01>  ElbridgeGerry: sudo apt-get install gnome --reinstall
[03:08] <wrox> bdina: vlc/firefox looks like no-go http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?p=98805
[03:08] <zekebru> nykkto: it shows up in the device manager underneath the NIC
[03:08] <Mattias> quaal: go to beryl settings on the beryl icon
[03:08] <novice>  soundray: /usr/lib/firefox
[03:08] <soundray> novice: are you on dapper (ubuntu 6.06)?
[03:08] <quaal> Mattias, yea im there
[03:08] <ardchoille> quaal: Like those effects? Add to it.. run a screensaver as your desktop wallpaper ;)
[03:08] <zekebru> nykkto: but I guess it's worth a shot
[03:08] <ElbridgeGerry> soundray: and how do I do that?
[03:08] <nykkto> zekebru: yah
[03:08] <Mattias> quaal: visual effects -> animations ->
[03:09] <novice> nope.... 5.10
[03:09] <quaal> ardchoille, ohmy
[03:09] <soundray> ElbridgeGerry: 'sudo adduser newusername'
[03:09] <quaal> electric sheep as my wallpaper !?
[03:09] <nykkto> zekebru: I wonder if it is a bad module for some such
[03:09] <ElbridgeGerry> soundray: Thanks.
[03:09] <Mattias> quaal: try change settings there as you like :)
[03:09] <ElbridgeGerry> I'll be back if it doesn't work.
[03:09] <Yodude> !Places
[03:09] <nykkto> zekebru: you can also google for similar problems
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about places - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <elias_> pfff, I still don't see in the start of a session the option of KDE but only for Gnome! :-( grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[03:09] <bdina> wrox: ive seen that link, i am guessing it really is a problem -- there's even a bug open with ubuntu that has yet to be worked on ... but there are also tutorials on how to get the plugin installed so that seems to contradict bugs -- i assume that someone would only create a howto if it actually did work -- right??
[03:10] <zekebru> nykkto: I've tried, but no luck yet. I'll try removing the NIC, and see if the unknown device is still there.
[03:10] <soundray> novice: you should return to the packaged version of firefox, and install 2.0 according to the wiki instructions.
[03:10] <nykkto> zekebru: OK cool
[03:10] <soundray> novice: shall I tell you how to do that?
[03:10] <novice> i'm not able to return to package version..
[03:10] <novice> k.... tell me
[03:10] <zekebru> nykkto: thanks a million for your help
[03:10] <Yodude> k i removed it
[03:10] <soundray> novice: why do you think you're not able?
[03:10] <nykkto> zekebru: who knows it might just not be seated correctly
[03:10] <zekebru> nykkto: true
[03:10] <Yodude> phew i am so never gonna get near anything .tar at all
[03:10] <quaal> hmm
[03:11] <quaal> i dont see the option to set my desktop to a wallpaper ?
[03:11] <nykkto> zekebru: glad to help with what I can
[03:11] <zekebru> later, all
[03:11] <Yodude> so no no so so so no no
[03:11] <novice> soudray:i tried with synaptic manager....... but  i was not able to do dat...
[03:11] <quaal> err
[03:11] <quaal> set my screensaver to wallpaper
[03:11] <soundray> novice: okay, I will guide you. It might be easier if we switch over to #ubuntu-classroom -- okay?
[03:11] <wrox> bdina: if it worked, then it should be enougth to install that package... anyway there are other player plugins .. gxineplugin, totem-mozilla
[03:12] <novice> soundray: how to switch to #ubuntu-classroom........ i'm new to IRC
[03:12] <wrox> bdina: mozilla-mplayer
[03:12] <tabman> I'm trying to play mp3 files and ubuntu says "you do not have a decoder installed to handle this file" ?
[03:12] <soundray> novice: just type /join #ubuntu-classroom
[03:12] <wrox> bdina: i didn't need video that badly to try them all though:)
[03:13] <Mattias> quaal: one more cool effect :P  press the window key + n   or window key + m
[03:13] <novice> yup....
[03:13] <quaal> Mattias, wow
[03:13] <Mattias> quaal: or window key + scroll
[03:13] <quaal> thanks man
[03:13] <Mattias> quaal: :P
[03:13] <nykkto> tabman: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[03:13] <Dagmar> Alright, is there some way to find out who is doing a binary package (specifically MythTV for Edgy) without having to install the thing?
[03:13] <bdina> wrox: i have the totem plugin installed now, that does not work either -- i am trying to listen to the radio from a local station -- they actually have a faq that answers the question of what to do when in linux -- they recommend using mplayer -- also does not work for me...
[03:13] <miles> Mattias: the desktop doesn't turn negative :-(
[03:13] <nykkto> tabman: that link should help you
[03:13] <quaal> ha! zooming
[03:13] <dragon> servus
[03:14] <pic_> siema
[03:14] <Mattias> miles: mine does :P
[03:14] <dragon> hi there
[03:14] <bdina> wrox: i was able to play the stream with vlc standalone but i really want the plugin to work and am becoming obsessed with getting it working -- spending toooooo much time though
[03:14] <zmeiat_joro> So, can anyone tell me what I can do about this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6367/ ?
[03:14] <nykkto> Dagmar: try apt-cache search Mythtv
[03:14] <quaal> Mattias, how do you make the screensaver your desktop wallpaper?
[03:14] <wrox> bdina: guess we have to wait for Feisty.. Dapper even had problem with Flash sounds, but it's ok now in Edgy:) things are improving
[03:14] <iller> Hi, i have a gateway what i want to route all clients to a specific ip-address (that is internal) but also in an interface on the server since it is a vpn-connection. How can i do that?
[03:14] <speedwolf> nykkto: no go, can't seem to make this thing walk
[03:14] <Dagmar> nykkto: "without having to install it"
[03:14] <iller> Currently i have: /usr/sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/16 -d 0/0 -j DNAT --to 10.0.1.2 -m mark --mark 1
[03:14] <iller> /usr/sbin/iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -s 10.0.0.0/16 -j MARK --set-mark 1
[03:14] <iller> 10.0.1.2 is on the interface "tap0"
[03:14] <quaal> i'm in general options/desktop background but it has nothing on that
[03:14] <iller> Can i insted of "route it back" like they said route it to the tap0-interface?
[03:14] <nykkto> Dagmar: that is just a search, not install
[03:14] <Mattias> quaal: havent tried that yet, btw, if you got lots of windows up, try drag the mouse to the top right corner
[03:14] <tabman> nykkto: I don't want the full thing, I just need the enable the package from withing ubuntu, I remember MP3 used to work on my previous installation
[03:15] <Mattias> quaal: then choose which window you want ;)
[03:15] <quaal> Mattias, oh awesome
[03:15] <ardchoille> quaal: http://www.gnomehelp.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Gnome.ScreensaverAsWallpaper
[03:15] <quaal> thats just like osx
[03:15] <wrox> bdina: if you tried totem and vlc, that still leaves you with mozilla-mplayer and gxineplugin untried
[03:15] <bdina> i will say i am a recent convert to ubuntu -- i think its a great distro ... most definitely what i will be using for a while to come... linux distros have come a long way since good ol' slack
[03:15] <Blued0g> hey
[03:15] <nykkto> tabman: you need the codecs,
[03:15] <quaal> ardchoille, awesome thanks man
[03:15] <Dagmar> nykkto: Okay, let me spell it out for you then.  "apt-cache: command not found"
[03:15] <ardchoille> quaal: Tha twill work with gnome-screensaver too
[03:15] <quaal> Mattias, know where to go to set active corners like that ?
[03:15] <Dagmar> I am *not* interested in downloading a whole bloody ISO and installing it just to try to help someone fix their broken packages.
[03:16] <quaal> ardchoille, i actually just removed gnome-screensaver and installed xscreensaver
[03:16] <Dagmar> I think that's a bit unrealistic to expect.
[03:16] <tabman> nykkto: yeah tell me the apt-get commands to install the codecs
[03:16] <ardchoille> quaal: Awesome
[03:16] <regard> !mp3
[03:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:16] <quaal> archangelpetro, is it better?
[03:16] <quaal> er
[03:16] <quaal> ardchoille, is it better?
[03:16] <Mattias> quaal: havent explored too much, but just go through all stuff in the settings for beryl :) you will find many nice stuff, i love having my cube transparent and skydome in the background :D
[03:16] <ardchoille> quaal: More configurable
[03:16] <yaman> when i try to copy files to my partition it says "you do not have permissions to copy files to this folder" how can i give it the ryt permission or how can i copy files to it ??
[03:16] <quaal> ardchoille, nice
[03:17] <archangelpetro> lol
[03:17] <quaal> Mattias, skydome?
[03:17] <dragon> u need to have the accss right set
[03:17] <archangelpetro> oh i dont worry ardchoille it makes me feel wanted and special :P random people talk to me! :D
[03:17] <Mattias> quaal: basically a sky in the background instead of blackness
[03:17] <d34l3r> hi all
[03:17] <nykkto> tabman: I don't know em, I used easybuntu, to get that done
[03:17] <ardchoille> archangelpetro: hahaha
[03:17] <archangelpetro> nice to be loved eh?
[03:17] <d34l3r> I got some Problem with Beryl / glxgears on Kubuntu Edgy
[03:17] <nykkto> speedwolf: I don
[03:17] <d34l3r> d34l3r@home:~$ glxgears
[03:17] <d34l3r> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:18] <nykkto> speedwolf: I don't seem to have an answer for you, sorry :(
[03:18] <bdina> wrox: okay -- different subject same topic (multimedia) do you use rythmbox?  i have been using banshee for my ipod/mp3 stuff -- but ubuntu has defaulted with rythmbox.... i am not sure which to use now -- i have them both installed
[03:18] <d34l3r> I got an ATi Radeon 9600 XT with xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:18] <wrox> is there a way to know ho many times has been a certain word used on this channel?
[03:18] <d34l3r> ^^ I guess the most used word is problem
[03:18] <d34l3r> xD
[03:18] <nykkto> wrox: only if you have logged the channel
[03:18] <tabman> nykkto: ok I think the package name is mp3-decoder
[03:18] <yaman> need help when i try to copy files to my partition it says "you do not have permissions to copy files to this folder" how can i give it the ryt permission or how can i copy files to it ?? is this because it's ntfs ??
[03:19] <wrox> just interested for word 'beryl' :)
[03:19] <d34l3r> !beryl
[03:19] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:19] <Mattias> wrox: /lastlog beryl ? :P if you use irssi :P to see all lines including that word
[03:19] <charl_ie> yaman: ubuntu doesn't support writing to ntfs be default
[03:19] <nykkto> ubotu: are you a person or a bot?
[03:19] <jussi01> hei all: how do i make the icons on the desktop align along the top instead of the left?
[03:20] <ardchoille> nykkto: its a bot
[03:20] <nykkto> lol, I see
[03:20] <yaman> is there any way to do that ?? charl_ie
[03:20] <jussi01> !ntfs3g | yaman
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <jussi01> !ntfs
[03:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:20] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g
[03:20] <nykkto> ntfs3g seems to work pretty well
[03:20] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:20] <wrox> bdina: i use movie player for music i guess... rythmbox is fine though... you may wanna look on that revolution player too.. but be warned it installs mozilla wich will take over your browser system default
[03:20] <Mattias> quaal: to make any application in fullscreen  try ctrl+alt+return
[03:21] <agliv_> Greetings all :) I would like to undo all changes I have made since installing ubunut yesterday, but I've got files in home that I don't want to loose.  What's my best way to get a new clean install?
[03:21] <wrox> Mattias: i use xchat:)
[03:21] <Linuturk> irssi for the win
[03:21] <Mattias> wrox: then you can't :P or i don't know how
[03:21] <zyga> hi, I'm planning on running ubuntu server (edgy) from a CF card with cf->ide adapter, are there any things besides flash write limit that I should be aware of?
[03:21] <mahound> soundray: back
[03:21] <yaman> jussi01: thanx
[03:21] <nykkto> agliv_: copy the files in /home to another location, and reinstall
[03:21] <Dagmar> So, is there a website somewhere that would let me find out who is building a particular set of packages for Edgy?
[03:21] <charl_ie> agliv: did you make a seperate home partition?
[03:21] <soundray> mahound: so?
[03:21] <quaal> Mattias, awesome
[03:21] <bdina> wrox: thanks for the advice :)
[03:22] <agliv_> nykkto, I don't think I've enugh space...
[03:22] <nykkto> charl_ie: oh good question
[03:22] <Frogzoo> zyga: swapping to nvram is really bad
[03:22] <mahound> running the install
[03:22] <nykkto> agliv_: no CDs to copy to?
[03:22] <Dagmar> swapping to what?!?!
[03:22] <wrox> Dagmar: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:22] <zyga> Frogzoo: I will not create a swap partition
[03:22] <Mattias> quaal: im finding more and more stuff myself :D like vertical maximizing and stuff, which is ctrl+alt+v   and then ctrl+alt+h for horizontal
[03:22] <IdleOne> agliv_, backup the files to CD and then re-install
[03:22] <Frogzoo> zyga: also consider noatime mount option
[03:22] <Mattias> quaal: ah no, window key instead of ctrl+alt
[03:22] <soundray> !firefox > novice
[03:22] <zyga> Frogzoo: good point, thanks :-)
[03:23] <zyga> what about file system? is ext2 okay (for a cf->ide system)
[03:23] <agliv_> you all want me to back up 25GB to CD before reinstalling?
[03:23] <zyga> there are filesystems optimized for flash but I know little about them
[03:23] <mahound> soundray:  "ata1: port reset, p_is 40000001 is 1 pis 0 cmd c017 tf 4051 ss 113 se 0"
[03:23] <agliv_> that would take too long...
[03:23] <quaal> Mattias, sweet
[03:23] <nykkto> agliv_: you implied you installed it yesterday :p
[03:23] <agliv_> nykkto, I did
[03:24] <nykkto> agliv_: and then moved 25GB to the drive?
[03:24] <wrox> bdina: sorry, i meant http://www.getdemocracy.com/
[03:24] <soundray> mahound: oh. Not familiar either
[03:24] <agliv_> nykkto, yes... it is perhaps a longer story...
[03:24] <charl_ie> agliv_: do you have a separate /home partition?
[03:24] <ulti2001> question guys
[03:24] <agliv_> charl_ie, yes
[03:24] <nykkto> agliv_: well if your /home directory is not in it's own partition it will get wiped out on a reinstall
[03:25] <__doc__> hm, is democracy OS?
[03:25] <Enselic> Is there a way to pass input to gedit trhough pipes?
[03:25] <agliv_> nykkto, it is
[03:25] <mahound> soundray: but there's more
[03:25] <ebe-1> I have Ubuntu Server installed. I skipped the network config on install, but would like to return to it now. I am connected via ethernet.
[03:25] <ulti2001> is there a neub guide for install beryl in Edgy Fit
[03:25] <ulti2001> complete neub
[03:25] <nykkto> agliv_: no problem then just reinstall ubuntu,
[03:25] <bdina> wrox: i have thought about trying the democracy player -- i did balk at the deps
[03:25] <Enselic> ulti2001: yeah, www.beryl-project.org has a wiki with info
[03:25] <IdleOne> !beryl | ulti2001
[03:25] <ubotu> ulti2001: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:25] <Mattias> ooh,  window key + numpad :D
[03:25] <Dagmar> wrox: Well, that was at least closer than the last answer.  The website seems to include everything _but_ who is building the binaries
[03:25] <soundray> mahound: do you want to pastebin it?
[03:25] <ulti2001> thankx
[03:25] <nykkto> agliv_: you have to mkae sure to tell it that that partition is home, and where / and swap are etc
[03:25] <mahound> soundray: of course
[03:26] <Blued0g> hey all, any ideas why xirc connects but i cant send or receive any messages on it?
[03:26] <Blued0g> gaim works fine
[03:26] <wrox> Dagmar: guys at Cannonical Ltd., Isle of Man
[03:26] <Blued0g> im behind a corporate firewall and proxy..
[03:26] <Dagmar> wrox: I suppose they're too busy drowning to build things correctly then
[03:26] <quaal> Mattias, windows key + numpad? not getting anything
[03:26] <nykkto> Blued0g: gotta check what ports are blocked
[03:26] <agliv_> nykkto, and then copy my files from the old to the new user dir?
[03:27] <Blued0g> everything is blocked
[03:27] <wrox> bdina: i installed, seen my firefox replaced by mozilla and uninstalled immediatelly:)) guess i should just switch the default browser next time
[03:27] <Blued0g> but mirc on windows, and gaim, works fine
[03:27] <Blued0g> just not xirc
[03:27] <ElbridgeGerry> Hey all.
[03:27] <nykkto> agliv_: /home is where your user data is
[03:27] <IdleOne> Blued0g, then you got your answer
[03:27] <nykkto> agliv_: or are you talking about /usr ?
[03:27] <Blued0g> not really, what would be the difference between xirc and gaim connection wise?
[03:27] <wrox> Dagmar: i think they test everything.. however i don't know if they take some packages directly from debian
[03:27] <Blued0g> dont think ive put settings into either
[03:27] <mahound> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6376/
[03:27] <gemini9> how do i check my java setting?
[03:28] <Mattias> quaal: on a window, it will move it around
[03:28] <Enselic> gemini9: java -v
[03:28] <ElbridgeGerry> When I create a new user from the command line, exit and try to login with the user, it doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
[03:28] <gemini9> thanks
[03:28] <Dagmar> wrox: We're seeing people show up in #mythtv-users about three nights out of five with programs that do not need to talk to X at all give an _session authentication error_ and bail out
[03:28] <dragon> hi
[03:28] <nykkto> Blued0g: instant messaging and irc do not use the same ports, thus irc ports may not be open behind the firewall, unless that is wher eyou are now
[03:28] <Dagmar> wrox: Something is very, very wrong with the MythTV binaries
[03:28] <Blued0g> i mean irc through GAIM is fine
[03:29] <Mattias> quaal: ah you need to enable it first
[03:29] <Blued0g> but irc on xirc isnt..
[03:29] <Mattias> quaal: its in the window manager settings somewhere
[03:29] <ElbridgeGerry> How do I create a user from the cli and set its password?
[03:29] <nykkto> Blued0g: that is another story then
[03:29] <Dagmar> wrox: It's why I'm trying to figure out who builds those so I can grill them and maybe we can figure out what the heck is being done so wrong as to cause that
[03:29] <Blued0g> irc in gaim: fine, mirc in windows: fine, just not xirc
[03:29] <Blued0g> so im guessing xirc needs some extra setup ,or has a bug
[03:29] <speedwolf> nykkto: might have it, it's a bit of a hack though
[03:29] <nykkto> Blued0g: I dunno.
[03:29] <nykkto> speedwolf: cool
[03:29] <elias_> when you minimize a window in Gnome, do you get an annoying square window getting smaller and smaller until it reaches the bar?
[03:29] <wrox> Dagmar: that's interesting coz i'm about to install mythtv too.. guess i'll try other TV frontend on first error encounter...
[03:29] <soundray> mahound: what kind of hard disk do you have?
[03:30] <quaal> do we have an x.org ?
[03:30] <quaal> or is that xorg.conf
[03:30] <mahound> soundray: a fujitsu mhv2080at
[03:30] <Dagmar> wrox: If you're looking for a frontend for watching TV, mythTV would not be the thing to use in any case.  It's a PVR app.  Not a TV app.
[03:31] <mahound> soundray: btw, this is an LG LW40 laptop
[03:31] <Dagmar> wrox: At least this gives me a (somewhat unwieldy) URL to throw at these people so they can report it as a bug
[03:31] <agliv_> nykkto, the data that I want to save is in /home on a seperate partition :)
[03:32] <nykkto> agliv_: then you are good to go
[03:32] <wrox> Dagmar: it's a media system - PVR, TV, even Internet and Games using remote i think..  but true once you get used to control your stuff with mouse, you don't get back to remote
[03:32] <speedwolf> nykkto: The trick is to manually copy over the two sys files that come on the driver cd to the /etc/ndsiwrapper/<driver name folder>/
[03:32] <gemini9> java -v gives Usage gij (Option) CLASS (ARGS)
[03:32] <nykkto> agliv_: reinstalling the os on / does not touch /home
[03:32] <nykkto> speedwolf: ahh, nice to know
[03:32] <speedwolf> nykkto: then manually tell ndiswrapper to asscociate the right driver with ndiswrapper -d <drver name>
[03:32] <nykkto> speedwolf: you might consider posting that
[03:33] <soundray> mahound: is it a SATA drive?
[03:33] <mahound> soundray: yes
[03:33] <speedwolf> nykkto: to who?
[03:33] <soundray> mahound: give me a few minutes pls
[03:33] <mahound> ok
[03:33] <nykkto> speedwolf: the wiki or forums for ubuntu
[03:34] <speedwolf> nykkto: ah yes, it was a pain and I think it's a common card, might be a good idea
[03:34] <wrox> Dagmar: I remember trying MythTV with DVB-T on Edgy and it was OK.. is this problem new to some recent update to the packages?
[03:34] <agliv_> nykkto, I want to maintain the same user name after reinstall.  will Ubuntu get confused if there is already a user home dir with the same name?
[03:35] <nykkto> speedwolf: here I think http://www.ubuntu.com/community/forums
[03:35] <speedwolf> nykkto: thanks
[03:35] <Dagmar> wrox: It's been going on a couple weeks now.  I found https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/55827 which basically outlines what's happening for numerous people, but frankly "This is normal syntax" sounds like a load of cr*p to me
[03:35] <nykkto> agliv_: I don't think so
[03:35] <nykkto> agliv_: it is mostly worried about /etc/password
[03:35] <Dagmar> wrox: Neither mythbackend nor mythfilldatabase need to talk to X at all, so they shouldn't even be _trying_ to do session authentication
[03:35] <agliv_> nykkto, Is it possible to rename the folder before reinstalling just to be sure?
[03:35] <freakabcd> i updated from dapper to edgy
[03:36] <freakabcd> my nautilus seems to be stuck in spatial mode
[03:36] <freakabcd> how do i change this?
[03:36] <Dagmar> wrox: ...and this is people coming to us about new installs, so I'm disinclined to believe that there's something they've put in their ~/.qt that would be mucking this up
[03:36] <nykkto> agliv_: you could, I don't think you need to
[03:36] <speedwolf> right, I've managed to install the hardware and drivers finally, but a wireless option isn't showing in my network settings, anyone got any ideas?
[03:37] <nykkto> speedwolf: iwconfig lists nothing?
[03:37] <wrox> Dagmar: that bug was obviously closed way too fast:)  "i have this problem: new bug", "you don't have this problem: closed"
[03:37] <agliv_> nykkto, well I'll try without... the worst think that can happen is that durring install I'll have to choose a new user name...
[03:37] <andi5> hi... since my last feisty update gnome-terminal is _completely_ unusable (read: slow), even with a scrollback buffer of 1 line... is that a known issue / there a workaround? *desperate* ;-)
[03:37] <speedwolf> nykkto: same as before, no wireless extensions and wlan0 isn't listed
[03:38] <ElbridgeGerry> Gah, I'm screwed
[03:38] <Dagmar> wrox: Yeah, I'm about to reopen it and inquire as to what this business with ~/.qt is supposedly about
[03:38] <ElbridgeGerry> Every time I try to go into GNOME (failsafe session or not) it freezes
[03:38] <oem> what is the channel name for beryl help
[03:38] <ElbridgeGerry> I'm in a failsafe terminal now
[03:38] <nykkto> agliv_: the only thing you might have to worry about it if you did group stuff, but I do't think you did, you can always change the folder s if you need to with chmod, and chown
[03:38] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-effects
[03:38] <ElbridgeGerry> Can someone please help?
[03:39] <wrox> Dagmar: however, the error, isn't that MySQL talking?
[03:39] <nykkto> speedwolf: I have had eth1 and rausb with wireless etentions :_
[03:39] <soundray> mahound: I found this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/LgLW20-34DB -- Laptop with SATA drive, no mention of your problem unfortunately
[03:39] <agliv_> nykkto, what do you mean by "group stuff" ?
[03:40] <freakabcd> could someone please tell me how to change nautilus to open in 'browser mode' as default  in place of the stupid spatial mode i have now?
[03:40] <nykkto> agliv_: if you don't know you did not make user groups, so you don't need to worry abou tit
[03:40] <mahound> soundray: hum... so... what should i do?
[03:40] <mahound> soundray: report a bug?
[03:40] <Dagmar> wrox: Thanks again
[03:40] <ElbridgeGerry> What do I do if GNOME freezes every time I try to log in (even in failsafe)? I'm in a terminal session now.
[03:40] <soundray> mahound: I'm lost -- please ask the channel again about the partitioner hanging and point to your paste.
[03:40] <Frogzoo> if I have CF card that gets mounted by udev, how can I set special mount options for when it's mounted, such as noatime ?
[03:40] <Dagmar> wrox: Hopefully I can prod someone into actually doing a test of the thing, or at least explaining what the package thinks it's supposed to be doing and find a fix
[03:40] <quaal> hmm
[03:41] <quaal> firefox is appearing in all black ?
[03:41] <nykkto> ElbridgeGerry: sounds like your xorg.conf is bad perhaps
[03:41] <agliv_> nykkto, no I didn't mess with user groups, thanxs for your help and I get back if I'm having problems ;)
[03:41] <quaal> hmm fixed itself
[03:41] <ElbridgeGerry> nykkto: I'll bring back a backup, then
[03:41] <ElbridgeGerry> Thanks
[03:41] <ardchoille> quaal: Don't you love it when that happens? lol
[03:41] <yaman> what is gksu ?
[03:42] <Frogzoo> !gksu
[03:42] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[03:42] <ardchoille> yaman: It's a GUI implementation of sudo
[03:42] <mahound> ok, channel
[03:42] <mahound> my partitioner hangs during install
[03:42] <andi5> freakabcd: is not there a setting in edit->preferences, something like "always use browser windows"?
[03:42] <jaaroo> does ubuntu support LCD displays with pivoting? I would like to buy one and wonder if ubuntu can do resolution switching automatically.
[03:42] <freakabcd> andi5, in nautilus ?
[03:42] <ardchoille> andi5: You on Edgy?
[03:43] <mahound> here's dmesg output -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6376/
[03:43] <Skew-> is it true that ubuntu fights evil spirits and conquers fair ladies?
[03:43] <nykkto> mahound: do you have free space on the drive?
[03:43] <soundray> mahound: put it all in one line, including the paste URL
[03:43] <andi5> ardchoille: no, maybe the setting is new...
[03:43] <freakabcd> ardchoille, i'm on edgy, why?
[03:43] <ardchoille> andi5: I think they took that out of nautilus on Edgy
[03:43] <freakabcd> ardchoille, no man.
[03:43] <mahound> nykkto: no
[03:43] <IdleOne> Skew-, only on sundays
[03:43] <andi5> ardchoille: well, then they added it in feisty again ;-)
[03:43] <ardchoille> andi5: It's in the Behaviour tab on Dapper
[03:43] <freakabcd> stupid spatial was default on dapper
[03:43] <mahound> nykkto: i was hoping to resize it
[03:43] <ardchoille> andi5: hahahaha
[03:43] <freakabcd> and i upgraded and it has maintained the behaviour
[03:43] <freakabcd> browser mode s the default on edgy
[03:44] <soundray> Frogzoo: man pmount may help
[03:44] <nykkto> mahound: ahh, just a sec
[03:44] <ardchoille> freakabcd: It's the default on Dapper too
[03:44] <freakabcd> i know cos on another machine and different (new)user on same machine it works fine
[03:44] <unop> what does /bin/sh point to by default on ubuntu?
[03:44] <wrox> Dagmar: i can't find it now, but the first thing i'd try would be to enable MySQL to accept connection from localhost without authentication
[03:44] <freakabcd> ardchoille, thats what i said! spatial default on dapper.
[03:44] <LjL> unop: /bin/bash in dapper, /bin/dash in edgy
[03:44] <freakabcd> browser default on edgy
[03:44] <freakabcd> i don;t know or care about feisty atm
[03:44] <unop> LjL,  is dash quite bash compatible?
[03:44] <LjL> !dash | unop
[03:44] <ubotu> unop: /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[03:44] <ardchoille> freakabcd: Browser is default on Dapper
[03:44] <soundray> unop: not entirely
[03:45] <nykkto> mahound: if you have a spare cd download this and use gparted to resize your ntfs partition http://www.inside-security.de/insert_en.html
[03:45] <freakabcd> ardchoille, huh? wince when?
[03:45] <Bazy> do any of you know what modues do i need to load for pptp passthru nat?
[03:45] <andi5> freakabcd: anyway, use gconf-editor to change that
[03:45] <freakabcd> its been spatial for ALL users on my daper machine
[03:45] <dromer> hi, I'm trying to make a bootfloppy, but when i format the froppy with fdformat /dev/fd0 I get: Could not determine current format type: No such device
[03:45] <ardchoille> freebsdfreak: Since Dapper was released?
[03:45] <mahound> nykkto: but does the error have to do with free space?
[03:45] <freakabcd> andi5, i'm not sure where to look in the registry :(
[03:45] <ardchoille> freebsdfreak: I just installed Dapper on a new box and Broswer is the default.
[03:45] <unop> bahh, but why is /bin/sh not /bin/sh ?? it's quite absurd to have changed that
[03:45] <andi5> freakabcd: /apps/nautilus/preferences?
[03:45] <freakabcd> ardchoille, browser is NOT default on dapper
[03:45] <freakabcd> i'm sure
[03:45] <nykkto> mahound: I am guessing so, I ran in to a similar problem.  no space for the partitioner to work with
[03:45] <LjL> unop: you mean why it's not /bin/bash? because dash is faster, mostly
[03:45] <freakabcd> its spatial default on dapper
[03:46] <ardchoille> freakabcd: It is, but I won't argue with you. I know what I see.
[03:46] <mahound> nykkto: ok, i'll give it a try
[03:46] <mahound> thanks :)
[03:46] <LjL> unop: anyway, scripts that use bash-specific features should be *stating* that by using the #!/bin/bash sheebang
[03:46] <unop> LjL,  no , i mean , why is not /bin/sh (not /bin/bash or anything else)
[03:46] <Dagmar> unop: Probably because /bin/sh hasn't been /bin/sh on any Linux box in ages.  It's almost universally just a symlink to /bin/bash
[03:46] <freakabcd> ardchoille, and i'm sure about what I see too!
[03:46] <nykkto> mahound: gparted is a great tool it is a gui partition resuzer
[03:46] <benje> hello
[03:46] <LjL> unop: well because you can have many different shells, and /bin/sh points to the default one
[03:46] <charl_ie> !hi | benje
[03:46] <ubotu> benje: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:46] <benje> is siome one can help me about files list file for package  is missing final newline
[03:46] <nykkto> Dagmar: mine points to dash
[03:47] <andi5> nykkto: seconded
[03:47] <LjL> unop: symlinks are often enough used to "decide" among alternatives
[03:47] <Dagmar> You may need to take a gvalium if you've never used gparted before.  the way it jacks CPU and disk load to the ceiling can be quite terrifying
[03:47] <freakabcd> ardchoille, this laptop currently has been upgraded from dapper->edgy. my original user (from dapper) has maintained that crap spatial setting for nautilus. but other (new) users i create on this edgy machine get the browser mode as default
[03:47] <Dagmar> nyktto: dash shell?
[03:47] <benje> i found this command http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6379/ but i don't know what it will do
[03:47] <montee> hi, I have some problem witch firefox and gnome. When I start Firefox it's not on all desktop but on right side i see 10px desktop - firefox not start maximize, why?
[03:47] <unop> LjL,  errm, but ever since i've started using unix /bin/sh has always been /bin/sh .. anyway .. i guess i need to be more explicit now
[03:47] <freakabcd> ardchoille, and i can see browser mode default on my brother's machine too. and tat was as _fresh_ edgy install
[03:47] <benje> hello charl_ie
[03:47] <nykkto> Dagmar: that is what it links to
[03:48] <wrox> Dagmar: did you try to resolve that problem with allowing MySQL to accept local connections without the need of username/password? just curious
[03:48] <mahound> nykkto: does this resize ntfs?
[03:48] <Dagmar> nykkto: Yeah, but who's shell is dash?
[03:48] <andi5> benje: then you should not use it, from my pov
[03:48] <nykkto>  /bin/sh -> dash
[03:48] <LjL> unop: yeah, perhaps i don't get what you're saying. i think /bin/sh has been a symlink to something else (/bin/bash usually) on every Linux system i've used
[03:48] <nykkto> no idea
[03:48] <soundray> !info dash | Dagmar
[03:48] <ubotu> dagmar: dash: The Debian Almquist Shell. In component main, is required. Version 0.5.3-3ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 82 kB, installed size 204 kB
[03:48] <Dagmar> Yeah, Google just turned that over for me but thanks
[03:48] <ardchoille> freakabcd: Please stop
[03:49] <freakabcd> ardchoille, yes i will.
[03:49] <Dagmar> Slackware used to use ash for the same purposes, and then Patrick quit bothering
[03:49] <benje> soory andi5 for your pov ? what is pov ?
[03:49] <freakabcd> because its getting nowhere.
[03:49] <minntc> any mkinitrd pros got a minute?
[03:49] <freakabcd> hopefully andi5 's suggestion works for me
[03:49] <Flare183> does anybody know how to make the windows in gnome transparent?
[03:49] <gemini9> hey there
[03:49] <gemini9> i got KUBUNTU on cover disc of magazine
[03:49] <unop> LjL, well, bash is an extended sh .. so it's probably 100% compatible with it -- but i somehow just like using the canonical/original /bin/sh for consistency
[03:50] <andi5> benje: point of view.... the shell scriptery looks hackish and i cannot say what i does without taking a thorough look...
[03:50] <gemini9> i got all updates via KDE
[03:50] <LjL> unop, there has been no "canonical" sh since decades afaik
[03:50] <Jonny0stars> hello
[03:50] <Slike> hello, a friend of mine is trying to write a c++ program on ubuntu. he has installed all the components needed  like  gcc, g++, libraries,.....  but some of the standard includes like iostream don't work (the iostream header file can be found on his system though)
[03:50] <Dagmar> unop: I use LOTS of bash-specific syntax now, but I'm also quite careful to use #!/bin/bash and not #!/bin/sh.  Bash can run anything that has "classic"/"canonical" sh syntax
[03:50] <gemini9> i see a 6 DVD version of KUBUNTU for sale on wwwthelinuxstore.ca
[03:50] <unop> LjL,  there is on the BSDs .. even to this day
[03:50] <LjL> !build-essential > Slike    (Slike, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:50] <gemini9> www.thelinuxstore.ca
[03:50] <soundray> Frogzoo: did you find man pmount of any help?
[03:50] <Jonny0stars> i have a remote ssh server with X forwarding enabled, yet when i run a program it says no display
[03:51] <benje> ok andi5 so hiw can i resolv that ?
[03:51] <andi5> benje: resolve what?
[03:51] <benje> s/hiw/how
[03:51] <soundray> Jonny0stars: use 'ssh -X host' to connect
[03:51] <Dagmar> Jonny0stars: You have to either enable it on the client end or use -X as well
[03:51] <Jonny0stars> do i need Xforwarding on local ssh config aswell ?
[03:51] <Flare183> does anybody know how to make the windows in gnome transparent?
[03:51] <Dagmar> Jonny0stars: On the local _client_ config yes
[03:51] <gemini9> am i getting all the features of the 6 dvd set, that i got with KDE download
[03:51] <Jonny0stars> ah i have lower case x after the host
[03:51] <nykkto> Flare183: did you ask google?
[03:51] <minntc> Slike: this is not really the best place for a question like that...
[03:51] <freakabcd> Flare183, you want compiz or beryl
[03:51] <Jonny0stars> Dagmar: thanks
[03:51] <Dagmar> Jonny0stars: Yeah ouch.  -x turns it OFF
[03:51] <LjL> unop: they call it "sh", but is it really the direct descendent of the original Unix shell? anyway, yeah, BSD is a direct descendant of Unix, so it's more likely to have "standard Unix [derived] " tools. GNU and Linux are clones.
[03:51] <Sverre^> hey
[03:51] <benje> andi5, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6373/
[03:51] <unop> Dagmar,  well, if /bin/sh has always been pointing to /bin/bash on linux, i guess you dont have to worry eh? only now that debian/ubuntu want to use dash instead
[03:52] <Slike> minntc: where should i go then?
[03:52] <freakabcd> !beryl > Flare183
[03:52] <Emperor_Norton> this beryll thing is good
[03:52] <Flare183> thanks all but beryl and compiz mess up my computer
[03:52] <Sverre^> good
[03:52] <freakabcd> Flare183, then you ask in #beryl or #compiz
[03:52] <benje> andi5, at the end
[03:52] <Dagmar> unop: I do a lot of work on other Unices is why I'm careful to specify /bin/bash
[03:52] <Flare183> so i need a way around both of them
[03:52] <Flare183> so i need a way around both of them
[03:52] <unop> LjL,  i believe /bin/sh is still the original shell yes
[03:52] <LjL> unop: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_shell and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourne_shell
[03:52] <ebe-1> I've installed xubuntu-desktop ... how do I start it form the CLI?
[03:52] <freakabcd> Flare183, the only other way is for _fake_ translucency
[03:52] <soundray> ebe-1: try startx
[03:53] <ebe-1> That doesn't work
[03:53] <Flare183> freakabcd:>how?
[03:53] <freakabcd> like what eterm/aterm (possibly old versions) do
[03:53] <LjL> unop: see, the original Unix shell was the Thompson shell, but that's not even used in BSD
[03:53] <eternal_p> good morning all....I just compiled .20 of the kernel as per the master kenel thread, everything boots up fine, except my ipw3945 drivers are not there, so I download them, try and compile, and tells me it cannot find my ieee80211, so I download and compile that, and no matter what I di, ipw3945 wont' compile, any thoughts?
[03:53] <soundray> ebe-1: 'sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart'
[03:53] <andi5> benje: may you execute "LANG= LANGUAGE= sudo apt-get upgrade" for me?
[03:53] <freakabcd> Flare183, and thats only translucency to root window
[03:53] <freakabcd> you won;t see whats under the transparent term
[03:53] <freakabcd> *translucent
[03:53] <Flare183> freakabcd:>i don't understand
[03:53] <LjL> unop: and the Bourne shell article says that the standard for POSIX was based on the Korn shell, an even later development
[03:54] <benje> yes andi5 without nothing else ?
[03:54] <benje> or you want lang=EN_en ?
[03:54] <ebe-1> soundray, it says command not found.
[03:54] <andi5> benje: yes, unset the environment variables
[03:54] <nykkto> LjL: which korn shell the '93 version?
[03:54] <freakabcd> Flare183, first tell me why you need to make a window translucent. then i can probably explain better
[03:54] <ElbridgeGerry> I think I know what the problem is
[03:54] <speedwolf> nykkto: my lshw says that the usb port that the stick is plugged into is UNCLAIMED, that doesn't sound good
[03:54] <LjL> unop:  Bash, also known as the Bourne-Again shell, was later developed for the GNU project and takes features from the Bourne shell, csh and ksh. Due to copyright issues surrounding the Bourne Shell as it was used in BSD releases, Kenneth Almquist developed a clone of the Bourne Shell, known as the Almquist Shell and available under the BSD license, which is in use today on some BSD descendants and in low-memory situations. The Almquist Shell was ported to
[03:54] <LjL> Linux, and the port renamed the Debian Almquist shell, or dash. 
[03:54] <ElbridgeGerry> Every time I try to log in, the GNOME settings daemon
[03:54] <Flare183> freakabcd:>i like it, makes it look better with out vista
[03:54] <ElbridgeGerry> crashes
[03:55] <nykkto> speedwolf: nope sounds bad to me
[03:55] <LjL> i think this quite explains the relationship. nykkto, don't really know, i'm just reading the Wikipedia articles
[03:55] <mindstate> how could i get my wine applications to show up in a seperate folder in the "applications" menu
[03:55] <unop> LjL,  errm, thats now what it says -- when talking about the korn shell - The functionality of the original Korn Shell (known as ksh88 from the year of its introduction) was used as a basis for the POSIX shell standard; a newer version, ksh93, has been open source since 2000 and is used on some Linux distributions
[03:55] <freakabcd> Flare183, you can install beryl and switch off ALL options except the one that gives you the _ability_ for translucent windows.
[03:55] <Flare183> freakabcd:>I have tried both beryl and compiz and they both freeze my computer
[03:55] <soundray> ebe-1: is xubuntu-desktop fully installed? Check with 'apt-get -f install'
[03:55] <ElbridgeGerry> How do I stop my GNOME Settings Daemon from crashing? I've already tried resetting my xorg.conf, and all I got was a lower screen resolution
[03:55] <freakabcd> then you'll have only that option and it will (supposedly) be fast as well
[03:55] <andi5> benje: by the way, i doubt there is a locale EN_en ... first it would have been en_EN, and second there is no country code EN in my opinion ... (may be wrong here)
[03:55] <benje> andi5, it's in dapper
[03:55] <nykkto> LjL: heh just giveing you a bad time ;)
[03:55] <LjL> unop: right, but the korn shell isn't the "original Unix shell". the Thomson shell is, and that was later replaed by the Bourne shell
[03:55] <freakabcd> Flare183, then i think you really need to talk on #beryl
[03:55] <mindstate> nvm
[03:56] <Flare183> freakabcd:>ok i'll try
[03:56] <ebe-1> soundray, I used aptitude.
[03:56] <michi_> HI guys, ubuntu detects my graphic card - does that mean that i don't need to install any drivers for it ?
[03:56] <unop> LjL,  which is the un-symlinked /bin/sh we see today :p
[03:56] <shinobi2> anyone running 6.10 on a toshiba satelite?
[03:56] <LjL> unop: so basically there is no current system using the "original" shell. all the others are derivations or clones, Dash being the clone with the closest resemblances to the Bourne shell used in BSDs
[03:56] <jussi01> ElbridgeGerry: what did you change just before this happened? did yo try and install a theme?
[03:56] <unop> LjL,  ok, never mind all this -- whats the dynamic shebang again - #!$(which bash)  ?
[03:56] <nykkto> ElbridgeGerry: you could try installing kde or xfce as alternatives
[03:56] <LjL> unop: yeah, so? it just means you have a non-symlink instead of a symlink, it doesn't imply it's "original"
[03:56] <Dagmar> unop: Using the original shell would be like stubbornly driving a two-stroke Model A.
[03:57] <soundray> ebe-1: still, try the apt-get command
[03:57] <Dagmar> unop: ...or using SCO UNIX.
[03:57] <LjL> unop: i could make Dash or Bash a real file instead of a symlink in Linux, that wouldn't make it more original than a symlink :P
[03:57] <ElbridgeGerry> jussi01: No, but I had been tweaking my GNOME panels
[03:57] <steel_lady> Hello, how can I resize an image in gimp??? I am looking for an option like: reduce for 50 percent!
[03:57] <nykkto> ElbridgeGerry: ouch
[03:57] <freakabcd> what are the advantages of using dash over bash ?
[03:57] <soundray> steel_lady: Image-Scale
[03:57] <ebe-1> soundray: it doesn't show anything newly installed. But the install went just fine in aptitude...no errors or anything.
[03:57] <LjL> unop: hm, dunno. might work. but is #!/bin/bash that bad? there *should* be a /bin/bash anywhere, on any system where bash is installed, shouldn't it
[03:57] <ElbridgeGerry> nykkto: I'd prefer to just reinstall GNOME, but if getting KDE would be easier...
[03:57] <LjL> freakabcd: it's faster
[03:57] <freakabcd> unop, shebang #!/bin/sh
[03:58] <freakabcd> or shell of your choice
[03:58] <soundray> ebe-1: what do you get from 'sudo aptitude install gdm'?
[03:58] <erUSUL> steel_lady: Image>Scale image
[03:58] <jussi01> ElbridgeGerry: Did you do the reinstall command I gave you w hile ago?
[03:58] <unop> freakabcd,  not what i am looking for -- thanks tho
[03:58] <freakabcd> LjL, any webpage showing statistics about it being faster ?
[03:58] <minntc> I'm attempting to use mkinitrd to include a driver for my IDE controller so I can boot my system. I'm building it in the LiveCD environment, and chrooting into my system. mkinitrd is segfaulting after about ten minutes per execution. Anyone have any ideas?
[03:58] <nykkto> ElbridgeGerry: I don't know how to fix gnome form the command line, but getting a giu allows you to google for solutions better
[03:58] <ElbridgeGerry> jussi01: With the xorg.conf? Yes. All I got was a lwoer screen resolution
[03:58] <michi_> How do i know if I need to install a graphic driver?
[03:58] <LjL> freakabcd: probably the Edgy specification where dash was made default... i'll look
[03:58] <unop> LjL,  well, i was just wondering what the way was to put a command in the shebang that is executed
[03:58] <erUSUL> minntc: mkinitrd is deprecated use mkinitramfs
[03:59] <ebe-1> soundray: it's asking me if I wanna install a bunch of stuff.
[03:59] <LjL> freakabcd: anyway, note that you're still using Bash as your interactive shell - dash is more suited for faster executions of scripts, and that's what it's used for in Edgy
[03:59] <freakabcd> unop, #!/usr/bin/wish
[03:59] <LjL> unop: i've never tried
[03:59] <bmk781> michi_: is your distplay working?
[03:59] <freakabcd> unop, or anything really
[03:59] <minntc> michi_: Can you see your screen? :p
[03:59] <jussi01> :ElbridgeGerry: no, I mean sudo apt-get install gnome --reinstall
[03:59] <nykkto> jussi01: oh nice idea
[03:59] <ElbridgeGerry> jussi01: I'll try it.
[03:59] <freakabcd> LjL, its just the destination for the sh symlink, correct ?
[03:59] <steel_lady> thanx erUSUL
[03:59] <michi_> lol, yeah, i can, but does that mean, that i don't need a driver ?
[03:59] <Jonny0stars> ssh -X 88.xx.xx.xx -l user
[03:59] <LjL> freakabcd: yes
[03:59] <benje> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6387/ in english
[03:59] <Ryiel> hey Guys! I successfully installed ubuntu :D How to get my internet connection established? (used windows before...) I used PPPOE in windows, so i have only the login and pass now. Any idea?
[03:59] <Jonny0stars> is that correct ?
[04:00] <unop> freakabcd,  i know how shebangs work -- there's a way to put a command in the shebang that the kernel runs to then use that return value as the interpreter -- thats the syntax i am after, not a particular interpreter
[04:00] <benje> or ssh -X user@ip
[04:00] <soundray> ebe-1: say no, and run 'sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop'. Say yes when it wants to install a bunch of stuff. Rerun the command until it says something to the effect of "is the latest version"
[04:00] <jussi01> ElbridgeGerry: let us know how it goes :d
[04:00] <nykkto> haha now I am installing gnome on my xfce system :)
[04:00] <freakabcd> unop, huh? explain more
[04:00] <Jonny0stars> it is still saying display not available
[04:00] <LjL> freakabcd: the spec's here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh , but no, there aren't statistics
[04:00] <bmk781> michi_: you can uses what its currently using but i you want 3d acceleration or opengl support youll need to install propreitary drivers
[04:00] <minntc> erUSUL: thanks. That makes me want to scream that I found nothing about that in the past 36 hours.
[04:00] <Kasper> Was hoping that someone could answer this: Is it possible to install Ubuntu on an external harddrive, so  its possible to take Ubuntu with you on the "go"
[04:00] <benje> Jonny0stars, your config in sshd
[04:00] <soundray> Jonny0stars: you may have to restart sshd on the server after configuring X forwarding
[04:01] <benje> forwardX11 Jonny0stars
[04:01] <ebe-1> soundray: alritey, doing now
[04:01] <shinobi2> how to tell if i am using madwifi or ndiswrapper?
[04:01] <michi_> bmk781: how do I install it ?
[04:01] <paolo> hi everyone. I'm trying to get my intel soundcard to work: it works when I boot the PC, but if I touch the mixer sliders sound goes away. i've looked everywhere and cannot find a solution. Anyone got any ideas?
[04:01] <freakabcd> LjL, were any tests conducted? cos iirc bash when invoked as sh gives limited functionality _and_ is faster that full blown bash
[04:01] <YoG> Hi, I want to have a group of icons of the running tasks on the desktop (instead the taskbar), does anyone knows how to do this?
[04:01] <LjL> freakabcd: anyway i think that spec was mainly implemented as part of the "faster boot process" goal for Edgy. i fancy that they knew what they were doing
[04:01] <bmk781> michi_: ati or nvidia?
[04:01] <michi_> bmk781: nvidia
[04:01] <Jonny0stars> benje: i have probably just need to restart sshd
[04:01] <erUSUL> minntc: i learned that the hard way to... ;)
[04:01] <michi_> bmk781: and it shows me the right type
[04:01] <benje> andi5 is gone so some else can help ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6387/
[04:01] <freakabcd> LjL, ah ok. then maybe dash just offered some functionality that bash invoked as sh didn;t
[04:01] <bmk781> michi_: you can either download the driver from their site, or use envy to do it all for you
[04:01] <biohazard> #ubuntu pl
[04:02] <freakabcd> LjL, if they were really craving for speed then they could have just used busybox
[04:02] <jussi01> michi_ : envy works well :D
[04:02] <unop> freakabcd,  like a usual x=$(which firefox) .. $x contains /usr/bin/firefox or whatever it is on yur system -- there's a similar syntax for the shebang you can use that i can't remember now
[04:02] <jussi01> !envy
[04:02] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[04:02] <Jonny0stars> nope no luck
[04:02] <LjL> freakabcd: i don't think that's the reason. but then i'm not an Ubuntu dev, you're asking too much of me - i just trust them to have made the right choice (at least in the scope they made it in, then you can argue that the breakage of script compatibility is a serious issue)
[04:02] <michi_> envy sounds good ... I just installed ubuntu today ... so ... how do I do this envy thing ? bmk781
[04:02] <benje> about apt-get upgrade error
[04:02] <benje> in dapper
[04:03] <jussi01> michi_: see above
[04:03] <freakabcd> LjL, nah.. im not arguing for/against anything atm. just wanted to know the rationale
[04:03] <LjL> freakabcd: busybox is made to be small, i don't know if it's also particularly fast... actually, something that's designed to be very small may easily not be very optimized, in general
[04:03] <LjL> freakabcd: well the official rationale is on that spec page
[04:03] <bmk781> michi_: open a terminal and run    wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i  envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[04:03] <paolo> hi everyone. I'm trying to get my intel soundcard to work: it works when I boot the PC, but if I touch the mixer sliders sound goes away. i've looked everywhere and cannot find a solution. Anyone got any ideas?
[04:03] <freakabcd> unop, you want to use something like #!`which bash` ?
[04:03] <freakabcd> thats weird
[04:03] <soundray> ebe-1: when you're done, do a reboot and it should automatically launch gdm (graphical login)
[04:04] <unop> freakabcd,  yea kinda, but that doesnt work tho
[04:04] <michi_> oki doki ;) thx ! ... get back to you to tell ya if its all fine :P
[04:04] <freakabcd> or i'm not understanding what you are saying. give me a better example
[04:04] <LjL> freakabcd: by the way, on the pages there *are* speed improvements listed, not just in a very analytical manner. they just say "X is 30 seconds faster", and such
[04:04] <freakabcd> unop, if you want to use which blah, blah should already be in your PATH
[04:04] <freakabcd> in which case you don't need to use which at all!
[04:04] <Ryiel> Can someone help you how to set my login and pass for DSL internet connection under ubuntu?
[04:04] <LjL> freakabcd: yeah, that's what he wants to do. but /bin/bash (or /bin/sh, or what-you-like) should IMHO be more than enough, since those are standard locations
[04:04] <unop> freakabcd,  please, i know how all this works -- i'm not asking for a shebang tutorial, just if you know how this is done, thats all
[04:05] <ebe-1> soundray: alritey :)
[04:05] <erUSUL> !adsl
[04:05] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:05] <erUSUL> !adsl > Ryiel
[04:05] <MrFatJack> anyone out there have encfs working on 6.10?
[04:05] <Jonny0stars> still getting "cannot open display"
[04:05] <freakabcd> you want to know 'how *WHAT* is done'
[04:05] <LjL> unop, why do you assume this *can* be done?
[04:05] <freakabcd> the *what* is what i don;t understand :(
[04:05] <Ryiel> thanks buys!
[04:05] <unop> freakabcd,  never mind
[04:05] <soundray> unop: would testing the SHELL environment variable at the beginning of your script do the trick?
[04:05] <alberto> CIAO
[04:05] <michi_> bmk781: is that it ? Can it be done so quickly? I suppose i need to restart
[04:06] <mumblesmac> anyone got a good link to how to backup windows installs with ubuntu ?
[04:06] <unop> LjL,  I've seen it done in a perl tutorial i had, i just cant seem to find it now
[04:06] <alberto> HI
[04:06] <Jonny0stars> i will paste the files on pastebin
[04:06] <nykkto> Jonny0stars: xhost + ip-of-remote-host
[04:06] <jussi01> !it | alberto
[04:06] <ubotu> alberto: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:06] <alberto> WHY???
[04:06] <soundray> mumblesmac: my favourite for that is partimage
[04:06] <bmk781> michi_: once thats installed just run sudo envy
[04:06] <unop> soundray,  but the thing is the shebang line _has_ to be the first line of a script .. and i dont think you can have any code before it
[04:06] <bmk781> michi_: and it should let you install the driver quickly and easily
[04:06] <Dagmar> unop: That would be correct
[04:07] <freakabcd> unop, if you explain it better (or maybe just once more from the beginning cos i missed some text?) then maybe i can understand what you want to do. but i just don;t even know _what_ you want to do
[04:07] <dromer> hi, I'm trying to change tho boot-sequence for my ancient toshiba laptop, but I'm not getting into the bios, anyone know how I could? (it's definatly not del)
[04:07] <Dagmar> unop: Standard "magic bytes" stuff.  First two (ASCII) bytes of the file need to be "#!" followed by the path to the pwning binary
[04:07] <michi_> bmk781: embaresed ;) - Did I mention that I'm new to ubuntu ... hahaha
[04:07] <soundray> unop: put #!/bin/sh and test if SHELL contains 'bash' using POSIX compliant commands. Abort if it doesn't.
[04:07] <jussi01> dromer: f1 or f12?
[04:08] <freakabcd> soundray, is that what he wants to do? sounded like something else
[04:08] <dromer> jussi01: not F1
[04:08] <nykkto> why not #!/bin/bash then?
[04:08] <unop> freakabcd,  there's a shebang trick that allows you to embed some code after the first two bytes (i.e. #!) that gets the kernel to run the code and use the value returned as the interpreter for the script -- that's what i'm after
[04:08] <gemini9> how do i load chromium? i see it in my directory..
[04:08] <dromer> jussi01: not F12 either :/
[04:09] <cc2k> can i do a apt-get reinstall program?
[04:09] <jussi01> dromer: weird, does it not tell you on the initial screen?
[04:09] <dromer> nop
[04:09] <speedwolf> nykkto: hey! that hurt!
[04:09] <benje> cc2k, install --resinstall
[04:09] <nykkto> rofl
[04:09] <Dagmar> By the man page: "When invoked as sh, bash enters posix mode after the startup files are read."
[04:09] <Jonny0stars> http://pastebin.ca/362099 can any one see anything wrong there ?
[04:09] <erUSUL> unop: maybe you can use env?? #!/usr/bin env bash  ??
[04:09] <benje> cc2k, install --reinstall
[04:09] <erUSUL> unop: maybe you can use env?? #!/usr/bin/env bash  ??
[04:09] <cc2k> k, so thats the comand?
[04:09] <unop> erUSUL,  that could be it yes
[04:09] <jussi01> cc2k: apt-get install program name --reinstall
[04:09] <dromer> jussi01: no, it just says Toshiba and does a ram-check
[04:09] <soundray> unop: I've used this in the past for perl: #! /usr/bin/env perl  -- maybe that works for bash, too
[04:09] <LjL> unop: what about #! /bin/which sh
[04:09] <cc2k> ah ty jussi01 and benje
[04:10] <Dagmar> LjL: Won't work
[04:10] <jussi01> cc2k np
[04:10] <LjL> Dagmar: it just did here
[04:10] <ElbridgeGerry> Okay, reinstalling GNOME didn't work. How do I install KDE?
[04:10] <LjL> !kde > ElbridgeGerry    (ElbridgeGerry, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:10] <dromer> jussi01: and it tries to read tho floppy-drive first, but nothing happens (I have a bootfloppy already in it)
[04:10] <jussi01> ElbridgeGerry: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:11] <ElbridgeGerry> Thanks
[04:11] <Dagmar> LjL: Invoking it as `sh filename.sh` sure
[04:11] <LjL> Dagmar: no
[04:11] <Linuturk> why isn't there a US server mirror listed on the Ubuntu download page?
[04:11] <LjL> Dagmar: i've just tested it with parameters, too, and they work
[04:11] <christian_> hi everyone! I just got interested in the sourcecode of gnome-display-properties, but I can't find it (gnome is pretty big) :( any idea?
[04:11] <benje> no one for http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6387/ files list file for package '...' is missing final newline ? in dapper
[04:11] <jussi01> dromer: thats weird, have you looked on toshiba's website?
[04:11] <MrFatJack> looking for some help on encfs
[04:12] <benje> christian_, deb-src or the website
[04:12] <dromer> jussi01: not yet, but I'm afraid there is no support for this machine yet :P)
[04:12] <dromer> s/yet/anymore
[04:12] <unop> soundray,  env seems to do it, thanks :)
[04:12] <soundray> Linuturk: there is
[04:13] <Jonny0stars> is there any RDP server as default ?
[04:13] <unop> erUSUL,  thanks :)
[04:13] <LjL> Dagmar: echo -e '#! /bin/which sh\necho I am running. First parameter is $1'  >testscript  ;  chmod +x testscript  ;  ./testscript whatever
[04:13] <jussi01> dromer: have you tried esc?
[04:13] <Dagmar> LjL:  http://pastebin.ca/362109
[04:13] <mumblesmac> soundray,  thanks mate
[04:14] <mumblesmac> just got to wait for it ti do its job now
[04:14] <erUSUL> unop: no problem
[04:14] <unop> LjL,  which doesnt seem to do it tho
[04:14] <soundray> Linuturk: click on North America
[04:14] <dromer> jussi01: YES \o/, esc and then F1 :P
[04:14] <Dagmar> You can't use /bin/which to find sh like that
[04:15] <jussi01> dromer: so it worked?
[04:15] <prodigel> hello. I'm trying to set up an adhoc wireless network between my desktop pc and my laptop. so far i've installed the original drivers with ndiswrapper and they seem ok. the problem is that each computer has it's cell and i don't know how to make them intercomunicate. I'm using ubuntu on both and have set up essid same for both also mode adhoc with iwconfig
[04:15] <christian_> benje, I'm new to programming and I did search on the official site of gnome. what is deb-src?
[04:15] <LjL> Dagmar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6391/
[04:15] <jahid> hi, i have installed "gspca", when i tried to load it using this "sudo modprobe gspca", it just get hang. i mean it does't do anything. the cursor just stocks
[04:15] <jahid> *stucks
[04:15] <bashi> my monitor has built in speakers but i can only get a trickle of sound out of it and I've  tried ulsamixer and alot of stuff including a new sound card and still cant get it to work can anyone help me?
[04:15] <nykkto> prodigel: did you give them static IPaddresses so they can talk to each other?
[04:15] <Music_Shuffle> When you move /home to its own partition, do you need enough free space on your HD to be able to move everything across while having double copies? Or not?
[04:15] <dromer> jussi01: except I can't set the boot-sequence, what is weird, when it boot's it first tries the floppy, but it doesn't get it or something :/
[04:15] <quaal> ardchoille, i cant seem to get that method working for setting up screensaver background
[04:15] <MrFatJack> can anyone help me with encfs?
[04:15] <benje> the reposiroey for the sources of package but you want to know where in the source is gnome-display ?
[04:16] <scoates> hi. does anyone know what the first field in dmesg is? looks like this: [17269714.316000] 
[04:16] <ardchoille> quaal: Tell me what you have done thus far.
[04:16] <soundray> scoates: timestamp
[04:16] <benje> the repository for the sources of package but you want to know where in the source is gnome-display ?  christian_
[04:16] <scoates> soundray: in what format? it's not a unix timestamp
[04:16] <prodigel> nykkto: yes, both 192.168.2.1 and 2
[04:16] <jussi01> dromer: toshiba's are weird: Ill see what I can see
[04:16] <ivanhoe> sorry i have a dude with 3d acelaration nvidia in ubuntu?
[04:16] <Dagmar> LjL: Either you faked the output or there's something very weird about your which binary
[04:16] <christian_> benje: yes, I can't find it
[04:16] <dromer> jussi01: ah, I know recognise the bootsequence in the bios (weird stuff) and it's FDD->HDD, so that's right
[04:16] <quaal> ardchoille, i found your post here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2113715
[04:17] <nykkto> Music_Shuffle: if you are moving to a new /home partition you have to have the current space to store the files, and at least that amount of space to move them to
[04:17] <ivanhoe> i have 6.10 but iread I will have problmesm with the 2.17 kernel its true?
[04:17] <nykkto> prodigel: have you tried to ping them?
[04:17] <Dagmar> Either way, it's a stupid thing to do because 1) `which` isn't a shell, and 2) you don't know for sure where `which` will be on a system
[04:17] <Music_Shuffle> nykkto, *Curses numerous times*. I wish I had known that BEFORE filling 300/320 gigs on this drive. ./cries.
[04:17] <jussi01> dromer: hmmm... you dont have a cd??
[04:17] <prodigel> nykkto: yes and it doesn't
[04:17] <ardchoille> quaal: Does the terminal command for the screensaver run ?
[04:17] <quaal> ardchoille, i run this /usr/lib/xscreensaver/swirl -root -small -delay 20000
[04:18] <quaal> ardchoille, Unrecognised option: -small
[04:18] <nykkto> Music_Shuffle: noting for it you gotta get another drive!
[04:18] <quaal> so i removed small
[04:18] <dromer> jussi01: actually I'm trying an install of debian sarge :$ like this http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/hosted/t4900b.html  only with these images: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/
[04:18] <dromer> jussi01: no cdrom no :P
[04:18] <soundray> scoates: it's uptime in seconds
[04:18] <dromer> it's like 13 year old laptop :P
[04:18] <prodigel> nykkto: destination host ureachable
[04:18] <nykkto> prodigel: humm. I have not done ad-hoc, so I don't have any good advice
[04:18] <ardchoille> quaal: man swirl
[04:18] <minntc> Okay, so who was it that just told me to use mkinitramfs a few minutes ago?
[04:18] <quaal> ardchoille, when i remove -small it goes to the next blank line like its doing something.. but i dont see anything happen
[04:18] <jussi01> dromer: have fun... I gotta run though...
[04:18] <ardchoille> quaal: There is no delay option either
[04:18] <Music_Shuffle> nykkto, eh, or make a couple hundred DVD's over a network...since I need a reinstall.
[04:18] <dromer> jussi01: I need to do a network install, I'd like to try ubuntu otherwise, is there a minimal network install for ubuntu available?
[04:18] <dromer> I have like 810 mb though :$
[04:19] <scoates> soundray: ah.. so I'd have to do some voodoo to convert that to a real time.. thanks
[04:19] <quaal> ardchoille, ok.. i removed delay
[04:19] <prodigel> nykkto: I can set it up other ways if it's easier for you
[04:19] <LjL> Dagmar, i'd give you an SSH account, but i'm under an ISP imposed NAT. i'm not used to faking outputs, anyway. now i tried it on my Debian, too, and the result is the same. i recognize it's kind of an unexpected result.
[04:19] <prodigel> nkkto: i just want to make it work, no matter the methods
[04:19] <unop> LjL,  that's odd -- this is what i get tho http://pastebin.ca/362114
[04:19] <freakabcd> LjL, edgy?
[04:19] <quaal> ardchoille, and samething.. doesnt appear to be doing anything. am i looking for the screensaver in the desktop ?
[04:19] <Dagmar> the only way that's going to work is if your shell (for whatever weird reason) makes two passes to parse the magic line, which shouldn't actually happen
[04:19] <LjL> freakabcd: yeah, but tried Debian Testing too
[04:19] <cc2k> i try to remove apache, but when i acces local host its still gives me a page of apche, while apahce isnt installed anymore.. why is that?
[04:19] <freakabcd> unop, are you on edgy ?
[04:19] <jussi01> dromer: Im not sure mate... got to run...--->
[04:19] <ardchoille> quaal: This works here: /usr/lib/xscreensaver/swirl -root
[04:19] <freakabcd> LjL, i just tried on edgy and it works which is very weird
[04:19] <nykkto> Music_Shuffle: here is an idea make a new partition for / and have the other partition be home
[04:19] <unop> freakabcd,  right now, no -- this is freebsd
[04:20] <freakabcd> unop, which is what i expect to happen
[04:20] <ardchoille> quaal: Did you disable nautilus' management of the desktop?
[04:20] <Music_Shuffle> nykkto, woah.  Pure genius...but...can it be done? >.>?
[04:20] <quaal> ardchoille, where should i be looking for it ?
[04:20] <quaal> ardchoille, yes
[04:20] <axisys_> how do i read quicken format file .. .qif files
[04:20] <dromer> can anybody help me do a network install on this ancient laptop of mine? I really want to make it a minimal install
[04:20] <Dagmar> LjL: Your which binary is doing something weird
[04:20] <axisys_> how do i read quicken format file .. .qif files ?
[04:20] <LjL> Dagmar: are you under Edgy yourself?
[04:20] <smokiedbest> hi
[04:20] <nykkto> Music_Shuffle: ahh the easy way is to do a generic install to the new small partition, and then change home to be a mount point to the other partition
[04:20] <michi> bmk781: i did "sudo enviy"; then i chose to install a nvidea driver ... the screen turned black and nothing happened - besides a white cursor bliking ... :S
[04:20] <minntc> unop: you were the one who suggested mkinitramfs instead of mkinitrd, yes?
[04:20] <ardchoille> quaal: Your desktop wallpaper should be an animated image
[04:21] <axisys_> !qif
[04:21] <quaal> ardchoille, hmm
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qif - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <unop> minntc,  nope .. thats definitely someone else :)
[04:21] <Music_Shuffle> nykkto, ugh.  Not sure if I can pull that one off.
[04:21] <quaal> ardchoille, would beryl cause any problem with that?
[04:21] <nykkto> prodigel: check your default route
[04:21] <cc2k> i try to remove apache, but when i acces local host its still gives me a page of apche, while apahce isnt installed anymore.. why is that?
[04:21] <ardchoille> quaal: Oh, beryl, I don't know.. never used it.
[04:21] <nykkto> Music_Shuffle: not hard to do
[04:21] <quaal> oh
[04:21] <quaal> hmm
[04:21] <minntc> darn, well, whoever it was deserves a big hug...
[04:21] <michi> bmk781 am I suppose to write something then ?
[04:21] <prodigel> From 192.168.2.1 icmp_seq=111 Destination Host Unreachable
[04:21] <ardchoille> quaal: I wouldn't think so, beryl is a wm and nautilus manages the desktop
[04:22] <prodigel> nykkto: From 192.168.2.1 icmp_seq=111 Destination Host Unreachable
[04:22] <prodigel> so it routes ok
[04:22] <bmk781> michi: no did it just do that when you first ran it?
[04:22] <Dagmar> LjL: Here (multiple slackware boxes) it appears that the $1 argument and so on get also handed to which to be looked up
[04:22] <oem> hello
[04:22] <oem> gues
[04:22] <oem> guys
[04:22] <oem> what up
[04:22] <LjL> !enter
[04:22] <Dagmar> LjL: this is damn interesting tho
[04:22] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:22] <nykkto> prodigel: no it does not
[04:22] <ardchoille> quaal: Do you have a right click desktop menu right now?
[04:22] <quaal> ardchoille, yea, its working when i changed back to metacity
[04:22] <quaal> cool
[04:22] <quaal> nope not in metacity
[04:22] <oem> i finally got beryl working
[04:22] <oem> but only problem
[04:22] <quaal> oem
[04:22] <quaal> nice
[04:22] <willskills> hello folks, what is the equivalent of /etc/modules.conf in ubuntu?
[04:22] <unop> Dagmar,  it's quirky .. definitely non-portable
[04:22] <ardchoille> quaal: Ah, so beryl doesn't allow the screensaver as wallpaper trick.
[04:22] <oem> wait up
[04:22] <LjL> Dagmar: which they should. by the way - yes, which is definitely doing something weird, because even things like #! /bin/which sdfkjhsejfhflj work
[04:22] <prodigel> please tell me how to register so that i can talk on private
[04:23] <quaal> ardchoille, i'm going to try the xwinwrap method they mentioned in that thread you posted your guide in
[04:23] <quaal> ardchoille, thanks for your help
[04:23] <prodigel> nykkto: how come?
[04:23] <nykkto> Music_Shuffle: I'd use gparted from the http://www.inside-security.de/insert_en.html rescue cd to shrink your partition so you can make a new one to reinstall to
[04:23] <freakabcd> prodigel, /msg nickserv help register
[04:23] <ardchoille> quaal: You're welcome
[04:23] <michi> bmk781: in the terminal there was the question, wheather i want to install a nvidia or ati card and some other options then i chose to Install a nvidia driver and then the screen turned balck ... nothing else
[04:23] <ulti2001> there is no one in ubuntu effect that is answering my question
[04:23] <LjL> Dagmar: by the way, my i386 md5sum for /bin/which is 5091b25f65a1d8929536c814b314b1c8 , both under Edgy and under Debian Testing
[04:23] <Dagmar> LjL: Example, http://pastebin.ca/362120  which appears to demonstrate how i thought it was supposed to work
[04:23] <freakabcd> ulti2001, about what? beryl?
[04:23] <prodigel> msg nickserv help register
[04:24] <ulti2001> Is there a site with user beryl settings that i can use
[04:24] <LjL> prodigel: with a /
[04:24] <ulti2001> rather than make my own
[04:24] <prodigel> sorry for that :d
[04:24] <nykkto> prodigel: you get the error because your networking does not know what interface to use by default
[04:24] <freakabcd> LjL, /bin/which is ofcourse just a script
[04:24] <willskills> !beryl
[04:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:24] <freakabcd> atleast on my system
[04:24] <LjL> prodigel: and do that in the status window, or you'll risk sending passwords to the channel
[04:24] <Dagmar> LjL: The md5sum isn't what matters unless we're looking for something that's been trojaned.  However, "GNU which v2.14" here.
[04:24] <bmk781> michi:  youll need to press ctrl+alt+F1 then login at the prompt then try running sudo envy there
[04:24] <unop> freakabcd,  written in shell .. /bin/sh??
[04:24] <ivanhoe> is secure if i use automatix bleeder?
[04:25] <cc2k> i try to remove apache, but when i acces local host its still gives me a page of apche, while apahce isnt installed anymore.. why is that?<-- and is this bad if i want a clean fresh install?
[04:25] <michi> ok ... so while the black screen appears ?
[04:25] <quaal> ardchoille, hmm
[04:25] <nykkto> prodigel: type route in a terminal and see if you have a default route
[04:25] <michi> I try that ;)
[04:25] <freakabcd> unop, lemme pastebin it
[04:25] <quaal> ardchoille, how do i get my regular desktop back? i ctrl-c'd the screensaver command in terminal
[04:25] <quaal> but its just black background now
[04:25] <LjL> Dagmar: how do you get to see the version? (anyway, if we have the same checksum, that rules out 'which' itself surely)
[04:25] <NaPsTeR> how can i watch dvds on my computer
[04:25] <Dagmar> which --version
[04:25] <LjL> !automatix | ivanhoe
[04:25] <ubotu> ivanhoe: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:25] <ardchoille> quaal: Re-enable that gconf key for nautilus to manage the desktop again
[04:25] <Dagmar> Same result for the other box with which 2.16 on it
[04:26] <quaal> ardchoille, oh right
[04:26] <prodigel> nykkto: i have one and it's for the gateway
[04:26] <LjL> Dagmar: uhm, except that doesn't work here
[04:26] <jahid> can anyone help me about installing my logitech webcam?
[04:26] <mei> how can i add a preferences in eclipse? sorry if offtopic
[04:26] <ivanhoe> if I use the nvidia driver of automatix y activate the 3d aceleration?
[04:26] <minntc> unop: so now that I've modified configs for mkinitramfs, will those be used whenever I install a new kernel image?
[04:26] <LjL> Dagmar: which --version isn't even dreaming of working
[04:26] <Dagmar> LjL: Okay so you *definitely* have an unusual version of which
[04:26] <NaPsTeR> !ubotu dvds
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <LjL> Dagmar: well but "--version" is not even in the manpage, for that matter
[04:26] <ivanhoe> well its true
[04:26] <NaPsTeR> !ubotu dvd
[04:26] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:26] <dromer> can I install ubuntu from floppy?
[04:26] <Ropechoborra> Hi, got a question, i cant see a flash aplication on a web properly, but i think i got installed the flashplayer
[04:26] <ivanhoe> I tratthe
[04:26] <Dagmar> LjL: I imagine someone probably did that in an attempt to find a workaround for the /usr/bin/perl /usr/local/bin/perl dichotomy
[04:27] <unop> minntc,  errm, where have you made these changes thi?? i'm inclined to say yes
[04:27] <Ropechoborra> firefox says that i need an unknown plugin
[04:27] <nykkto> prodigel: do you have a access point that you are using?
[04:27] <minntc> unop: in /etc/mkinitramfs/modules and /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf
[04:27] <quaal> ardchoille, hmm still unable to right click or view wallpaper. maybe i need to restart or something?
[04:27] <prodigel> nykkto: that is for the desktop the default it's 192.168.2.1
[04:27] <eXistenZ> LjL, Do you use xchat?
[04:27] <Dagmar> LjL: According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix) invoking it through env is supposedly safe enough
[04:27] <freakabcd> unop, LjL, Dagmar http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6393/
[04:27] <LjL> Dagmar: heck wait, my /bin/which is... a shellscript..
[04:28] <unop> Dagmar,  perl is always /usr/bin/perl .. universally with the exception of the non-unices .. it's how larry wall wants it :)
[04:28] <prodigel> nykkto: no. ad hoc 2 wireless usb dongles
[04:28] <freakabcd> LjL, thats what i mean
[04:28] <ardchoille> quaal: Which gconf key did you tweak?
[04:28] <freakabcd> it is NOT the which binary
[04:28] <Ropechoborra> Hi, got a question, i cant see a flash aplication on a web properly, but i think i got installed the flashplayer. firefox says that i need an unknown plugin
[04:28] <LjL> eXistenZ: no, konversation
[04:28] <freakabcd> thats why it has some weird behaviour
[04:28] <Dagmar> unop: Hey, I'm down with that, personally.
[04:28] <eXistenZ> Anyone here uses xchat?
[04:28] <LjL> freakabcd: i see that now
[04:28] <Ropechoborra> eXistenZ i do
[04:28] <nykkto> prodigel: are you trying to just connect the desktop and the laptop or are you trying to get wireless internet on the laptop?
[04:28] <Dagmar> LjL: So it's likely the which binary there is actually behaving differently from what people might expect
[04:29] <eXistenZ> Ropechoborra, What font do you use?
[04:29] <slippyr4> is there a way to find out what package installed a given file?
[04:29] <unop> freakabcd,  right ok, but when you cat it, is it a text file or binary -- because file's information just cannot be trusted sometimes
[04:29] <prodigel> just trying to connect them both
[04:29] <freakabcd> unop, dude
[04:29] <LjL> Dagmar: /usr/bin/which is itself a script
[04:29] <Dagmar> LjL: Doing that with which is almost certainly non-portable to other unices tho
[04:29] <freakabcd> its a shell script
[04:29] <freakabcd> you want me to pastebin it too?
[04:29] <freakabcd> i've seen inside!
[04:29] <LjL> actually, it's just a symlink to /bin/which
[04:29] <quaal> ardchoille, /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[04:29] <LjL> i'm looking inside as well
[04:29] <unop> freakabcd, no no, no need -- i'm just making sure
[04:29] <Ropechoborra> eXistenZ Monospace 9
[04:29] <nykkto> prodigel: does your desktop have an internet connection?
[04:29] <prodigel> nykkto: no wireless internet, just them between
[04:29] <freakabcd> yeah less /bin/which to see the script
[04:29] <prodigel> yes
[04:29] <LjL> it doesn't seem to call the actual GNU which at all
[04:30] <nykkto> prodigel: does your desktop have 2 IP addresses?
[04:30] <prodigel> nykkto: yes
[04:30] <ardchoille> quaal: Check that box and restart nautilus
[04:30] <unop> freakabcd,  which on freebsd is a binary tho -- proper compiled c code
[04:30] <prodigel> nykkto: yes
[04:30] <Dagmar> Oh god yes this is definitely bar-trivial material:  http://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/various/shebang/
[04:30] <Dagmar> s/trivial/trivia/;
[04:30] <prodigel> nykkto: one for lan and one for wlan
[04:30] <freakabcd> unop, thats what i would *expect*
[04:30] <quaal> ardchoille, restart nautilus.. ctrl-alt-backspace ?
[04:30] <freakabcd> but here its a script :(
[04:30] <unop> freakabcd,  ahh well, thats a GNU-thing you see there :)
[04:31] <ardchoille> quaal: NO!
[04:31] <mahound> hello again
[04:31] <speef> is there a way to get programs to minimize to the icon tray where the clock/shut down icon is in the default gnome ubuntu desktop
[04:31] <slippyr4> is there a way to find out what package installed a given file?
[04:31] <Dagmar> freakabcd: You *always* have to keep in mind what's portable and what's non-portable, because someone who doesn't know which things aren't safely portable will make an ass of themselves on a jobsite.
[04:31] <nykkto> prodigel: make sure the wlan does not share the network address.  I mean they need to be 192.168.1.x and 192.168.2.x
[04:31] <mahound> nykkto, it doesn't work :(
[04:31] <ardchoille> quaal: Don't do that, that restarts X. killall nautilus is what you want
[04:31] <freakabcd> ardchoille, help me out here man
[04:31] <quaal> ardchoille, ok
[04:31] <mahound> nykkto, gparted hangs too
[04:31] <freakabcd> apps->nautilus has no place (even in its sub items) for changing spatial/browser mode
[04:32] <patrik__> hello
[04:32] <freakabcd> grr
[04:32] <quaal> hmm
[04:32] <quaal> ardchoille, killall nautilus
[04:32] <quaal> nautilus: no process killed
[04:32] <prodigel> nykkto: they do one had 192.168.0 and the oher 192.168.2
[04:32] <LjL> slippyr4: dpkg -S filename
[04:32] <ardchoille> quaal: ok, now start nautilus
[04:32] <freakabcd> Dagmar, i'm aware of that
[04:32] <quaal> ardchoille, ahh
[04:32] <quaal> starting it was the key
[04:32] <nykkto> mahound: oh, then use the smart tools to check the drive to see if it is failing
[04:32] <quaal> ardchoille, appreciate it man
[04:32] <freakabcd> which is why i was surprised with unop's initial request of doing some magic at the shebang
[04:33] <nykkto> mahound: those are included on the CD also
[04:33] <patrik__> potrebujem pomoc..rozumie mi tu niekto?
[04:33] <ardchoille> quaal: :)
[04:33] <slippyr4> Ljl thanks
[04:33] <freakabcd> someone else can help me to make browser mode nautilus the default? instead of the spatial mode?
[04:33] <LjL> !english | patrik__
[04:33] <ubotu> patrik__: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:33] <nykkto> prodigel: hummm
[04:33] <ardchoille> quaal: I just notified the maintainer of that wallpaper tutorial, hopefully he'll update the info. Thank you for letting me know about that beryl issue.
[04:33] <Dagmar> freakabcd: Well, the solid answer to his original question would have probably been to insist that system shells will always be found in /bin and to smack him on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper.
[04:33] <quaal> ardchoille, sure thing
[04:34] <unop> freakabcd,  why should it be surprising -- bash on freebsd is actually /usr/local/bin/bash
[04:34] <erUSUL> freakabcd: use gconf-editor
[04:34] <Lazydog> would this be the place to ask a question about kubuntu?
[04:34] <freakabcd> Dagmar, or a light 50lb unix manual ;)
[04:34] <nykkto> prodigel: I'm not smart enought to help then
[04:34] <unop> freebsdfreak,  not /bin/bash or /usr/bin/bash
[04:34] <freakabcd> erUSUL, and you mind telling me where to change it?
[04:34] <LjL> Lazydog: #kubuntu might be a better place, but here is fine too
[04:34] <patrik__> thx...now i serch some my language canal..
[04:34] <Dagmar> unop: They're not installing it as a system shell there is why
[04:35] <bofphile> hi
[04:35] <Dagmar> unop: Those guys are so uptight they're going out of their way to make it hard to invoke
[04:35] <freakabcd> heh Dagmar
[04:35] <teclo> Hey, when the fuck are you gonna fix the bugs in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[04:35] <prodigel> nykkto: do you know links that describe the steps in setting it up?
[04:35] <teclo> Hey, when the fuck are you gonna fix the bugs in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[04:35] <LjL> !language | teclo
[04:35] <ubotu> teclo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:35] <PriceChild> !ops
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[04:35] <freakabcd> teclo, brighten up laddie
[04:35] <prodigel> nykkto: maybe i've missed some point
[04:35] <nykkto> prodigel: nope, never tried
[04:35] <Lazydog> LjL: just tried to startup kunbuntu and receive an error after uncompressing kernel  "invalid compressed format (err=2)
[04:35] <Dagmar> freakabcd: I pay attention to what upsets hardliners, and having a 'core BSD user see you running bash as the root shell is one of those "things" that gets their goat usually
[04:35] <freakabcd> haha
[04:35] <nykkto> prodigel: I've always used infrastructure mode
[04:36] <erUSUL> freakabcd: apps>nautilus>preferences|use always browser mode
[04:36] <Dagmar> freakabcd: hit them with enough of these sorts of things real fast and you can watch the veins on their forehead start pulsing
[04:36] <prodigel> nykkto: what settings are for that
[04:36] <ardchoille> freakabcd: gconf-editor: apps/nautilus/preferences .. no_ubuntu_spacial ?
[04:36] <freakabcd> their goat? shouldn;t that have been '... their daemon...'
[04:36] <unop> Dagmar,  well,  /usr/local/bin does exist in $PATH tho .. so bash can be executed from the command line etc .. but you have to be careful when using it as a shebang
[04:36] <willskills> hello folks, what is the equivalent of /etc/modules.conf in ubuntu?
[04:36] <bofphile> Is it possible to disable the infrared port (made for a remote control) of my laptop (Packard Bell) ?
[04:36] <unop> s/as a/in the/
[04:36] <Dagmar> unop: I'd smack it with #!/usr/bin/env bash
[04:36] <michi> bmk781: I think it works now ... can't really tell a difference ... thanks though ;)
[04:36] <freakabcd> ok. i'm in apps/nautilus/preferences
[04:36] <Dagmar> unop: Seems the safest thing to do
[04:36] <unop> Dagmar,  precisely what i am doing :)
[04:36] <Scurz> Hey, when the fuck are you gonna fix the bugs in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS ?
[04:37] <unop> Dagmar,  and the reason for me asking how to have a dynamic shebang
[04:37] <freakabcd> theres no such thing as no_ubuntu_spatial or use always browser mode
[04:37] <nykkto> prodigel: I have an access point, so I just use iwconfig, to point to the correct essid, and get my IP from the dhcp server on the accesspoint
[04:37] <Dagmar> ...because this stuff in http://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/various/shebang/ is basically pedant pornography of the worst sort
[04:37] <freakabcd> LjL, looks like we have a ban evader here
[04:37] <Dagmar> I remember arguments about this stuff back in the early 80's
[04:37] <Thug-N-Me> how do i view shared folders on my other ubuntu machine ?
[04:37] <Thug-N-Me> nfs its installed
[04:37] <ardchoille> freakabcd: Then they moved it yet again
[04:38] <freakabcd> omg! really?
[04:38] <LjL> freakabcd: not really, he had joined *before* the other was asked to leave.
[04:38] <freakabcd> someone using edgy please take a screenshot of gconf-editor with apps/nautilus/preferences open
[04:38] <NaPsTeR> how can i playback dvds on my computer>
[04:38] <Dagmar> unop: *smacks forehead* keep in mind that anything that has /usr in it's leading path should not be considerd safe for admin work
[04:38] <freakabcd> or anyone with browser mode nautlius as default
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> !dvd
[04:38] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:38] <nykkto> !spam
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[04:38] <nykkto> lol
[04:39] <Dagmar> unop: VERY important to keep in mind that at some point you might be trying to use such a thing before /usr gets mounted, which will be *unpleasant* to find out if the problem you're having is say, mounting /usr
[04:39] <prodigel> nykkto: i'll launch the message again. maybe someone is as wiling as you to help . thanks anyway
[04:39] <Thug-N-Me> ?
[04:39] <Thug-N-Me> anyone able to help ?
[04:39] <IndyGunFreak> Thug-N-Me: what was your question
[04:39] <prodigel> hi there. anyone caring to help me set up an adhoc wireless network? As far as I know the devices are properly installed just that i cannot ping from one to another
[04:39] <unop> Dagmar,  that rules out these in /usr/bin/ then perl, python, ruby etc -- i dont think that stands anymore :)
[04:39] <speedwolf> nykkto: ok, how do I use network manager?
[04:39] <irega> hi
[04:39] <Dagmar> unop: This is why you don't see people trying to make ext2 unbunglers in perl
[04:40] <Dagmar> unop: ...or init scripts for that matter.
[04:40] <freakabcd> speedwolf, you do some dancing and then pray for it to work!
[04:40] <irega> what happen with the repositories of http://es.archive.ubuntu.com ??
[04:40] <Thug-N-Me> IndyGunFreak i have two pc`s and both have ubuntu installed and i would like to be bale to browser files from pc 1 to pc 2 shared folders only
[04:40] <nykkto> speedwolf: lemme look
[04:40] <irega> i cant update from them
[04:40] <Frogzoo> willskills: /etc/modules
[04:40] <Antonio_Carlos_M> hi
[04:40] <Antonio_Carlos_M> me again
[04:40] <Dagmar> unop: I should probably have been clearer and said "system repair" work
[04:40] <erUSUL> irega: nothing afaik
[04:40] <ardchoille> freakabcd: Here is a screenshot of it on Dapper. This is the default setting upon a new Dapper install: http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5655/tempfe4.jpg
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> Thug-N-Me: not sure on that one
[04:40] <Antonio_Carlos_M> can soomeone help me
[04:40] <Thug-N-Me> IndyGunFreak i did shared the folder but how will i browser it from the other machine ?
[04:40] <Thug-N-Me> dam
[04:40] <mahound> nykkto, can't find the smart tools
[04:40] <Antonio_Carlos_M> does anyone use 3ddesk?
[04:40] <unop> Dagmar,  well, for scripts used in booting/emergencies i use /bin/sh and i expect the real bourneshell to be used not something that linux users think is appropriate (bash or dash or whatever else)
[04:41] <math_> hello, Im trying to play the old tomb raider 1 with dosemu, but when it loads dos/4gw it freezes... dosemu will not work with dos/4gw ?
[04:41] <freakabcd> unop, you don;t want to be bourne again? :p
[04:41] <nykkto> mahound: smartmontools
[04:41] <Dagmar> unop: Well, you shoudn't have a problem then.  bash will be able to parse anything that sh would.  It's the other way around (where you expect to be able to use bashisms on say, AIX) that will burn your fingers
[04:41] <mahound> nykkto, where?
[04:42] <nykkto> speedwolf: system networking
[04:42] <unop> freakabcd,  not really .. not my cuppa tea to be honest :)
[04:42] <Frogzoo> mahound: tomb raider is dos?
[04:42] <freakabcd> hehe
[04:42] <Antonio_Carlos_M> how do i write middle mouse button if i want to bind it to something
[04:42] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ????
[04:42] <freakabcd> Frogzoo, what?
[04:42] <Seveas> Frogzoo, the old tomb raider 1 is :)
[04:42] <chable> how do i install Alcatel Telecom SpeedTouch ISDN or ADSL Modem driver on ubuntu 6.10 ?
[04:42] <matt1234> is there a graphical way to change my firewall settings?
[04:42] <mboso> I have a dual core machine. How do i know if my second CPU is being used. when  I do cat /proc/info, I see 2 cpus, but when i to top. only one is shown.
[04:42] <Frogzoo> kk
[04:42] <nykkto> mahound: on the insert CD, prolly in /usr/bin, or /usr/sbin
[04:42] <freakabcd> oh we are talking about a game
[04:42] <Seveas> matt1234, use firestarter
[04:42] <chable> i can see it on BUS01
[04:42] <mboso> I have smp compiled into my kernel
[04:42] <chable> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 06b9:4061 Alcatel Telecom SpeedTouch ISDN or ADSL Modem
[04:42] <adaptr> mboso: in top, press "1"
[04:42] <math_> Seveas: lol
[04:42] <Jobra> hello
[04:42] <benje> mboso, switch mide in top
[04:42] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ummm
[04:42] <benje> mode mboso
[04:42] <mboso> adaptr: oh :-)
[04:42] <Antonio_Carlos_M> help here plz
[04:42] <nykkto> speedwolf: click on your adaptor and then fill in the blanks in the gui
[04:43] <math_> Seveas: weet jij hoe dat zit met dosemu en dos/4gw ?
[04:43] <freakabcd> ardchoille, i'll try adding in that option with a bool value myself and see if that works
[04:43] <Antonio_Carlos_M> how do i bind middle mouse button?
[04:43] <adaptr> math_: scheert ge snel naar nl !
[04:43] <freakabcd> hopefully it does.
[04:43] <Seveas> math_, english only in here please
[04:43] <math_> adaptr: :)
[04:43] <chable> anyone can help ?
[04:43] <mahound> nykkto, nothing :|
[04:43] <ElbridgeGerry> I've installed KDE, but whenever I change my resolution to above 1152x768, my screen fills with garbage and such. Why is this?
[04:43] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ?????
[04:43] <unop> Dagmar,  yea, another reason i prefer the real bourne shell is because it's not as heavy as it's cousin .. but i guess there's little you can do if /bin/sh is pointing elsewhere
[04:43] <math_> Seveas: ok, so do you know how to use dos/4gw within the dosemu ? :)
[04:43] <adaptr> Antonio_Carlos_M: bind it to what ?
[04:43] <Seveas> no :)
[04:43] <math_> dam
[04:44] <ardchoille> freakabcd: Ah, ok. Let me know if it works please.
[04:44] <math_> lol
[04:44] <Antonio_Carlos_M> to 3ddesk
[04:44] <chable> !speedtouch
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speedtouch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <adaptr> !xbindkeys | Antonio_Carlos_M
[04:44] <ubotu> antonio_carlos_m: xbindkeys: Associate a combination of keys or mouse buttons with a shell command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 148 kB
[04:44] <chable> :(
[04:44] <freakabcd> ardchoille, i will. and someone wiki it or something if it works
[04:44] <sethk> unop, you can point /bin/sh anywhere you like
[04:44] <TwistesdTexan> Antonio_Carlos_M: I think it's button three
[04:44] <Frogzoo> chable: is there a driver in the repos? if not, you'll need to compile
[04:44] <nykkto> mahound: odd it is listed as included on the CD and I have used it in the past
[04:44] <lakcaj> Does feisty have some disk quota setup that edgy didn't?  I did a dist-upgrade, which went flawlessly, but I'm getting errors that lead me to believe there is a disk quota.
[04:44] <chable> not , it isnt
[04:44] <chable> and i dont know how to find one
[04:44] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i want 3ddesk to enter 3d mode when i press middle mouse button
[04:44] <eternal_p> good morning all....I just compiled .20 of the kernel as per the master kenel thread, everything boots up fine, except my ipw3945 drivers are not there, so I download them, try and compile, and tells me it cannot find my ieee80211, so I download and compile that, and no matter what I di, ipw3945 wont' compile, any thoughts?
[04:44] <speedwolf> nykkto: I don't have any blanks to fill in. It's not giving me the wlan0 option
[04:44] <adaptr> lakcaj: repquota -a
[04:45] <ElbridgeGerry> Antonio_Carlos_M: Set shortcuts in beryl.
[04:45] <nykkto> mahound: well then boot that box in windows and download a smart tool drive checker
[04:45] <Frogzoo> chable: kk, so install your kernel headers & read the INSTALL that came with the tarball
[04:45] <empiric> hai
[04:45] <unop> sethk,  i know, but then it's no longer the bourne shell
[04:45] <ElbridgeGerry> I've installed KDE, but whenever I change my resolution to above 1152x768, my screen fills with garbage and such. Why is this?
[04:45] <speedwolf> nykkto: the hardware is DEFINITELY installed, it's just not showing up
[04:45] <chable> ok
[04:45] <nykkto> speedwolf: does it give you any option with wireless?
[04:45] <lakcaj> adaptr, thanks, I'll give that a try
[04:45] <speedwolf> nykkto: none
[04:45] <soundray> dmesg
[04:45] <sethk> unop, I'm not sure what you mean by that, since none of them are the bourne shell.
[04:45] <nykkto> speedwolf: don't get hung up on the wlan0
[04:45] <soundray> sorry!
[04:45] <sethk> unop, zsh has the best bourne shell compatibility mode
[04:45] <chable> Frogzoo,
[04:46] <Thug-N-Me> mount to NFS server '10.0.0.12' failed: server is down.
[04:46] <speedwolf> nykkto: ok, what do you suggest then?
[04:46] <Dagmar> zsh people are weird
[04:46] <chable> kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-686-smp
[04:46] <chable> this one ?
[04:46] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: it's probably not lying
[04:46] <nykkto> speedwolf: humm, well I dunno.  you check lsmod to see what loaded and dmesg ?
[04:46] <Antonio_Carlos_M> how do i write it
[04:46] <TwistesdTexan> Antonio_Carlos_M: That might be a conflict with some programs. Some use the middle button as a floating scroll.
[04:46] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ?
[04:46] <chable> or not the smp version
[04:46] <clearze2> Can anyone help me forward the X session from one box to another?
[04:46] <Frogzoo> chable: linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:46] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i only need to write
[04:46] <freakabcd> ardchoille, :( didn;t work
[04:46] <Antonio_Carlos_M> it in format < >
[04:46] <adaptr> chable: that's waaay too old
[04:46] <unop> sethk,  the original sh (written by stephen bourne), the same one used as /bin/sh on the BSDs .. thats the one i'm referring to
[04:46] <Anubis> cand someoane tell me how to make Beryl work ?
[04:46] <Antonio_Carlos_M> like <Alt>
[04:46] <chable> adaptr, im on a pentium 3
[04:46] <Antonio_Carlos_M> for example
[04:47] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr it is running  * Starting NFS common utilities                                         [ ok ] 
[04:47] <Seveas> !beryl | Anubis
[04:47] <ubotu> Anubis: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:47] <Antonio_Carlos_M> how do i write middle mouse button?
[04:47] <adaptr> chable: the kernel is old
[04:47] <speedwolf> nykkto: what am I looking for in lsmod?
[04:47] <ardchoille> freakabcd: :(
[04:47] <sethk> unop, fine, but that doesn't exist on linux.  of course, you can build it and install it, but normally it isn't there.
[04:47] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: that is proof of nothing, run netstat or exportfs -l (or -v , I forget which)
[04:47] <freakabcd> anyone here on edgy and having nautilus working in browser mode by default. could you please post a screenshot of gconf-editor open on /apps/nautilus/preferences
[04:47] <chable> apt-cache didnt found 2.6.*
[04:47] <nykkto> speedwolf: lsmod | grep usb
[04:47] <emet> !ati
[04:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:47] <chable> i should upgrade first ?
[04:47] <freakabcd> ardchoille, man/ looks like i might have to just get rid of my .gnome* stuff.. grr
[04:48] <TwistesdTexan> Antonio_Carlos_M: You might use the middle button with <contrl> <alt> middle button
[04:48] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr i would like to be able to browser the shared folder from my other linux machine ... i have two linux machine and i would like to shared folders
[04:48] <unop> sethk,  well, you say zsh, other people say ksh, some say ash -- i say forget all that -- just gimme the real /bin/sh :)
[04:48] <chable> coz i just installed ubuntu
[04:48] <freakabcd> and start with a fresh version
[04:48] <nykkto> speedwolf: that tells you what is loaded and associated with the usb stuff
[04:48] <adaptr> chable: apt-cache search linux-headers
[04:48] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr i did shared the directory i want ... but i dont know how to browser it from my other machine ... any idea how ?
[04:48] <chable> i did that adaptr
[04:48] <christian_> benje: I think I found it myself in the source of gnome control-center. anyway, thx a lot for your help!
[04:48] <adaptr> chable: which version ?
[04:48] <ardchoille> freakabcd: Hold for a screenshot
[04:48] <speedwolf> usbhid                 45152  0
[04:48] <speedwolf> usb_storage            75072  1
[04:48] <speedwolf> libusual               17040  1 usb_storage
[04:48] <speedwolf> usbcore               134912  6 ndiswrapper,usbhid,usb_storage,libusual,ohci_hcd
[04:48] <speedwolf> scsi_mod              144648  5 sbp2,sg,usb_storage,sd_mod,libata
[04:48] <chable> 6.10
[04:48] <unop> !paste | speedwolf
[04:48] <ubotu> speedwolf: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:48] <freakabcd> ardchoille, ok i will wait
[04:48] <chable> im installing the update
[04:49] <TwistesdTexan> Antonio_Carlos_M: I'm looking it up
[04:49] <clearze2> What is the command to see the returned value of the last command is it "!?"   ?
[04:49] <freakabcd> unop, | is useless. use >
[04:49] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: just mount it somewhere... mount -t nfs 10.0.0.12:/shared/dir /mount/point
[04:49] <unop> freakabcd,  eh?
[04:49] <nykkto> speedwolf: lol, watch the spamming the room, ndiswrapper is what you were looing ofr
[04:49] <freakabcd> cos otherwise it appears on channel also
[04:49] <padee> hi all
[04:49] <ardchoille> freakabcd: Are you saying there is no way to get nautilus to look like this on Edgy? http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6718/temp2bg0.jpg
[04:49] <unop> clearze2,  $!
[04:49] <freakabcd> ardchoille, i can with nautilus --browser
[04:49] <sethk> unop, I don't know anyone who has continued to use the bourne shell since ksh became available, and that's back in the 70's.
[04:49] <adaptr> chable: you did not run the command I gave you, then
[04:49] <padee> I'd like to know something about mounting iso files
[04:49] <freakabcd> from a term
[04:49] <unop> clearze2,  sorry $? .. $! is the pid of the last process
[04:49] <Antonio_Carlos_M> thx everryone
[04:49] <clearze2> unop:  thanks
[04:49] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i figured it out
[04:49] <TwistesdTexan> Antonio_Carlos_M: In beryl it is Button 3
[04:49] <ardchoille> freakabcd: Nice to know _that_ is still there.
[04:49] <_Thomas> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.10 (server iso) on my machine, and I thought I'd go for software RAID1, but after configuring the MD-devices they fail to show up in the partitioner?
[04:49] <adaptr> !loopmount | padee
[04:49] <nykkto> speedwolf: so it seems to be loaded, but not working :|
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loopmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <Seveas> !iso | padee
[04:50] <ubotu> padee: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[04:50] <adaptr> sillybotu
[04:50] <freakabcd> ardchoille, ofcourse. ii just want it to be default
[04:50] <_Thomas> So I can never assign any mountpoints to them
[04:50] <Dagmar> LjL: You might actually be interested in the test case at the bottom of  http://homepages.cwi.nl/~aeb/std/hashexclam-1.html#ss1.4
[04:50] <freakabcd> !iso > freakabcd
[04:50] <benje> last chance no one for http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6387/ files list file for package `linux-restricted-modules-common' is missing final newline ? in dapper
[04:50] <adaptr> _Thomas: that depends on how you configured RAID-1
[04:50] <freakabcd> guys.. please use !trigger > nickname
[04:50] <speedwolf> nykkto: it's the last thing I need for this to be a fully functioning install
[04:50] <freakabcd> don;t use !trigger | nickname
[04:50] <ardchoille> freakabcd: You can add that into you gnome menu with alacarte
[04:50] <clearze2> /name clearzen
[04:50] <speedwolf> nykkto: I've been working on it since 10am!
[04:50] <freakabcd>  | pastes to the channel also!!
[04:50] <clearze2> whoops
[04:50] <adaptr> _Thomas: use LVM, assign each mirror the linux-raid type
[04:50] <unop> sethk,  it's still in use on the BSDs i believe
[04:50] <nykkto> speedwolf: it is 9:48 am here :p
[04:51] <padee> well, actually i only want to mount an iso file... it is an english dictionnary meant for windows...
[04:51] <mahound> nykkto, found it... smartctl says the drive doesn't support SMART
[04:51] <_Thomas> adaptr: ah, so I need to put lvm on top of the md?
[04:51] <_Thomas> adaptr: why?
[04:51] <speedwolf> nykkto: ah, 3:51 pm here
[04:51] <adaptr> _Thomas: that's the w3ay the Ubuntu partitioner does it, yes
[04:51] <nykkto> mahound: oh, ack
[04:51] <nykkto> mahound: I'm stuck then
[04:51] <adaptr> _Thomas: because it works ?
[04:51] <_Thomas> adaptr: but lvm didn't allow me to create a new volumegroup
[04:51] <freakabcd> ardchoille, no i don;t want to.
[04:51] <sethk> unop, it's available in the BSDs, but, as I said, I don't know anyone who still uses it.  Before zsh, there were scripts floating around that ksh had problems with, but zsh's sh compatibility mode is so good that using the original sh makes little sense.
[04:51] <mahound> damn...
[04:51] <_Thomas> (the lvm in ubuntu-installer, that is)
[04:51] <soundray> mahound: have you made any progress?
[04:51] <freakabcd> i want my desktop folder to open up in browser mode too!!
[04:51] <nykkto> speedwolf: what card again?
[04:51] <adaptr> _Thomas: *you* should not configure LVM - the installer will
[04:51] <mahound> soundray, no
[04:51] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr permission denied
[04:52] <mahound> both ubuntu setup and parted hang
[04:52] <freakabcd> gues i really need .gnome* erased. not like i have any special settings there
[04:52] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: cat /etc/exports from the server - what does it say ?
[04:52] <freakabcd> just need to add beryl stuff back onto startup
[04:52] <unop> freakabcd,  i know i know -- but when it comes to _pasting_ i think people need to see it right then and there.. hence the | .. (i've been in this channel long enough you know)
[04:52] <adaptr> freakabcd: then do so ?
[04:52] <empiric> hi
[04:52] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr /media/hdg1/movies 10.0.0.12(rw)
[04:52] <speedwolf> nykkto: Belkin USB Wireless G F5D7051
[04:52] <freakabcd> adaptr, well i was looking for a solution that wouldn't require me to *restart* X
[04:52] <freakabcd> or log out and log back in
[04:53] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: so you're allowing the server to connect to itself ?
[04:53] <speedwolf> nykkto: uk version, that might have something to do with it
[04:53] <Enselic> Is it /quit "Bye secondword" or /quit Bye secondword
[04:53] <adaptr> freakabcd: chicken-and-egg impossible
[04:53] <slippyr4> can anyone help me, i am really stuck here. I'm trying to move my root filesystem to an LVM logical volume.  everything is fine, except my initramfs never activates the volume group, so boot falls over cos it can't find the root filesystem. I'm then dropped into busybox, where i can activate the filesystems and from there everything works. why won't the initramfs activate my volume groups?
[04:53] <eternal_p> hmmmm
[04:53] <ElbridgeGerr1> Enselic: /quit Bye secondworld
[04:53] <unop> sethk,  /bin/sh is used in every system administration script .. every startup script, emergency admin stuff, etc etc -- it's almost used ubiquitously for those purposes
[04:53] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr what do you mean to itself ? 10.0.0.12 its the other machine im 10.0.0.6
[04:53] <freakabcd> adaptr, no. it is possible. just the method is unknown at the moment
[04:53] <unska_> how do i set the display picture in gaim? :o
[04:53] <NaPsTeR> !ubotu dvd
[04:53] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:53] <Seveas> unska_, accounts -> add/edit
[04:54] <willskills> unska_, Accounts > Edit
[04:54] <benje> bye have a nice day
[04:54] <willskills> ><
[04:54] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: no, you posted the command to connect as mount 10.0.0.12:/share - so 10.0.0.12 is the *server*
[04:54] <ardchoille> freakabcd: You use xchat?
[04:54] <freakabcd> ardchoille, sure
[04:54] <sethk> unop, what is used is the program pointed to by /bin/sh.  It is unusual, at least for people like me who have run unix for 40 years, to have /bin/sh pointing at the original bourne shell.
[04:54] <adaptr> freakabcd: whatever you like
[04:54] <adaptr> freakabcd: you'll have to exit your Gnome session, which is tantamount to logging out
[04:54] <Enselic> ElbridgeGerr1: did it work?
[04:54] <moyogo> hi
[04:54] <sethk> unop, the bsd /bin/sh is not the original bourne shell
[04:54] <adaptr> freakabcd: as long as you're inside the session, ~/.gnome will be locked
[04:54] <ardchoille> freakabcd: Using irssi in a screens session, you can log in and out all you want, or even use tty1 for irc, and it doesn't affect irssi :)
[04:54] <freakabcd> adaptr, yeah i'm aware
[04:55] <freakabcd> ardchoille, i'm aware of that too. i wish i was still using bitchx now
[04:55] <unop> sethk,  never mind -- ive got what i wanted, thanks
[04:55] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr well  now im in 10.0.0.6 and i would like to mount the shared folder from 10.0.0.12   so mount -t 10.0.0.12/test /media/test  isnt it ?
[04:55] <moyogo> what should I do if apt-get gets an input/output error when reading the database?
[04:55] <doojin> hmm
[04:55] <ardchoille> freakabcd: :D
[04:55] <Dagmar> moyogo: Stop, drop, and roll.
[04:55] <Seveas> moyogo, panic
[04:55] <doojin> xchat-gnome sucks
[04:55] <freakabcd> anyway, back in a few mins
[04:55] <moyogo> Dagmar: done that already
[04:55] <yasi8h> my system's sound stops working all of a suddon when im in ubuntu... it just happens and then i can't play any music at all. the only way i can get it to work is going for a reboot. and this is happening all the time, do anyone know why is this happening???
[04:55] <Seveas> Dagmar, no: it's either "stop, collaborate and listen" or "STOP! Hammertime!"
[04:55] <unska_> Seveas, is it possible to see my own display picture like in the msn messenger view?
[04:55] <moyogo> Seveas: getting there
[04:56] <Seveas> unska_, no idea
[04:56] <jussi01> doojin: gaims much better
[04:56] <ardchoille> Seveas: hahahaha
[04:56] <Seveas> moyogo, can you please pastebin the complete output?
[04:56] <_Thomas> adaptr: So how should I do it, exactly?
[04:56] <Dagmar> Seveas: Ah you saw the flowchart as well
[04:56] <nykkto> speedwolf: hey do you know what chipset that has?
[04:56] <_Thomas> adaptr: I tried this; http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[04:56] <Seveas> Dagmar, yeah. Vanilla Ice vs. MC Hammer :)
[04:56] <earthen> does anyone know why grub cannot read splash screens
[04:56] <doojin> good
[04:56] <_Thomas> adaptr: But I never get "RAID1 device" listed
[04:56] <speedwolf> nykkto: it's a broadcom one, hang on I'll list it and find out
[04:56] <adaptr> _Thomas: as soon as you're in the partitioner, delete all partition, and create one (1) linux auto-raid partition on each disk, then set up MD to make that a raid-1
[04:57] <doojin> jussi01 : I think xchat is much better
[04:57] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr so no clue how to do it ?
[04:57] <doojin> jussi01 : xchat-gnome doesn't even display user list
[04:57] <rylasasin_> hi all
[04:57] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: you have no clue ?
[04:57] <_Thomas> adaptr: Ok, and then what should I do?
[04:57] <adaptr> _Thomas: that would be it
[04:57] <Frogzoo> earthen: grub splash must be in the exact format required
[04:57] <_Thomas> (because I tried that)
[04:57] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr im asking you .. " have you got a clue " ?
[04:57] <adaptr> _Thomas: what does the partitioner look like at that point ?
[04:57] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: about what ?
[04:57] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: I have many clues
[04:58] <_Thomas> adaptr: I have all my physical disks listed, and then the partitions, but no RAID1-devices
[04:58] <speedwolf> nykkto: it just says broadcom in lshw, are there any other ways of getting the info?
[04:58] <earthen> Frogzoo, I have it in the .xpm.gz formatt
[04:58] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr about what we just spoke ... nfs mount
[04:58] <Thug-N-Me> dam
[04:58] <_Thomas> adaptr: (like the one he has here;
[04:58] <_Thomas> http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/ubuntu6.png
[04:58] <_Thomas> )
[04:58] <Seveas> earthen, and in 14 colors and the right size?
[04:58] <_Thomas> I never get that
[04:58] <adaptr> _Thomas: so you have just one partition on each drive that is listed as Linux autodetect RAID ?
[04:58] <_Thomas> adaptr: Yepp
[04:58] <nykkto> speedwolf: lsusb gimme the ID numbers
[04:58] <unity> hi, just recently installed ubuntu and ran into a number of issues, hoping to iron them all out today. first on the list: when i do sudo apt-get update, i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6401/
[04:59] <moyogo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6400/
[04:59] <earthen> Seveas, I'm not sure I've used a program to do it for me
[04:59] <speedwolf> nykkto: ah yes, forgot, it's 050d:7051
[04:59] <Seveas> unity, apt-get install gnupg
[04:59] <adaptr> _Thomas: I have never read that howto - just did it naturally from server 6.06, and it *just worked* ...
[04:59] <thcmonkey> gonna sound weird, but does anyone remember talking to me earlier in the day?
[04:59] <adaptr> thcmonkey: your name might be a clue
[05:00] <Seveas> moyogo, that's not nearly complete output...
[05:00] <Frogzoo> earthen: try this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Splash_image_in_GRUB
[05:00] <thcmonkey> what do you mean adaptr?
[05:00] <earthen> Seveas, I've used  startup-manager
[05:00] <_Thomas> adaptr: Ok, I could try downloading 6.06 also, but it's weird if they've changed things going from working to not working
[05:00] <unity> Seveas: "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" <-- i assume i get this warning BECAUSE i haven't installed gnupg yet?
[05:00] <adaptr> _Thomas: agreed, and I don't see why you should either
[05:00] <earthen> Frogzoo,  thanks for the link I'll check it out
[05:00] <Sanne> hi
[05:00] <royel> how do I make my system update changes made in .bashrc?
[05:00] <adaptr> _Thomas: but ti's hgard to tell without reading that howto and seeing exactly what you;re doing
[05:00] <Seveas> royel, . .bashrc
[05:00] <adaptr> royel: source ~/.bashrc
[05:01] <Seveas> unity, that's plausible
[05:01] <royel> Seveas: adaptr: ty
[05:01] <nykkto> speedwolf: you are not the only one with problems on this device ;)
[05:01] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr mount to NFS server '10.0.0.12' failed: server is down. how can it be down if nfs its running ?
[05:01] <adaptr> unity: nope, that just means that you don't have a key for the repository
[05:01] <Seveas> Thug-N-Me, is portmap installed and running?
[05:01] <Dagmar> Thug-N-Me: It could easiliy mean that portmapper isn't running or something
[05:01] <speedwolf> nykkto: no, I had thought that... it's just so CHEAP
[05:01] <cc2k> how can i recover the etc folder? ^^
[05:01] <unity> adaptr: and this is fixed how?
[05:02] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: for the last time, you need to grant access to the *client*, and you're not doing that
[05:02] <Seveas> cc2k, reinstall?
[05:02] <Dagmar> cc2k: From your backup.  :)
[05:02] <emet> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:02] <cc2k> so its a reinstall then ^^
[05:02] <ardchoille> I'll tell you, Dapper is rock solid and it's obvious to see that a lot of work was put into it. Those extra weeks they held onto it were worth the wait.
[05:02] <emet> how do I fix this ?
[05:02] <adaptr> unity: search the ubutu forum for repository keys, there are plenty of examples - but really, the repo you added should have come with a key
[05:02] <Dagmar> cc2k: ...and every little thing you do destroys more and more of what you might have been able to recover from there.
[05:02] <ardchoille> This has got to be the best Ubuntu release yet.
[05:02] <Seveas> ardchoille, it is
[05:02] <emet> what
[05:02] <emet> fiesty ?
[05:02] <moyogo> Seveas: it is all
[05:03] <cc2k> k ty Dagmar
[05:03] <emet> yah the alpha is pretty stable
[05:03] <cc2k> will do a reinstall then Dagmar
[05:03] <emet> I just can't get the ATI binary driver to work !!
[05:03] <moyogo> Seveas: here's another example: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6405/
[05:03] <emet> it does : Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:03] <AlexC_> Morning all,
[05:03] <emet> when I do fglrxinfo
[05:03] <javb> hi people. i was hsving prblem with audiojack on my system (ubuntu edgy) by googling, i upgraded ALSA compiling it from alsa-project.org ... i SOLVED the porblem, but 2 days later i upgraded my kernel using ubuntu repositories.. just did it right now..
[05:03] <Seveas> moyogo, sudo strace apt-get check
[05:03] <javb> i have the same problem again.
[05:03] <Seveas> moyogo, and pastebin the output of that
[05:03] <javb> should it recompile the drivers ? ?  :s
[05:03] <adaptr> moyogo: looks like you have a corrupted package system
[05:04] <Sanne> I'm going to partition a 160GB IDE disk with hda1: ntfs for Windows 2000, and hda2: logical partition that contains some ext3/swap partitions for ubuntu and also two fat32 partitions for data exchange. I'm confused about the best partition id for hda2: 05, 0f or 85. Can anybody recommend? Partition type ref here: http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html
[05:04] <Seveas> javb, most likely
[05:04] <Jussi01> javab: yep, probably
[05:04] <adaptr> Sanne: just create a logical partition from within any partitioning program, and it wil be set for you
[05:04] <adaptr> *extended, even
[05:04] <Sanne> correction: hda2: extended partition that contains logical partitions
[05:04] <doojin> Uhu, I installed ubuntu
[05:04] <emet> why is ATI so lame
[05:04] <unity> Seveas: ah, i see the problem. i was getting those errors because the date was 1989
[05:04] <javb> let me do it then.. (fingers crossed)
[05:04] <doojin> Installing ubuntu is as easy as installing windows
[05:05] <Seveas> unity, LOL
[05:05] <moyogo> adaptr: is there a way to fix that, or start from scratch?
[05:05] <emet> is there no way to get an ATI card to work with beryl or something /
[05:05] <gxr|sleep> what version of linux would this be (i.e. linux 9, linux 8)
[05:05] <Sanne> adaptr: I'm using cfdisk from the live cd, that gives me the choice to set the partition type.
[05:05] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr how will i do that ?
[05:05] <Seveas> you don't need to reset the date in ubuntu to avoid license issues ;)
[05:05] <adaptr> moyogo: listen to Seveas -check if it is broken or another problem
[05:05] <AlexC_> gxr|sleep: latest version of linux is 2.6.20
[05:05] <Frogzoo> emet: beryl is still beta atm - give it time
[05:05] <oKtosiTe> Whenever I connect a gamepad (Thrustmaster dual trigger force/Speedlink 6xxx) I get a message "No configuration chosen from 1 choice" While on Gentoo (my own kernel) I get "configuration #1 chosen from one choice" - what am I missing?
[05:05] <AlexC_> emet: I run Beryl on an ATI X800xt
[05:05] <emet> Frogzoo, it's not beryls fault I don't have 3d acelleratioN !!
[05:05] <adaptr> Sanne: then you're already too far - you need to specify that earlier
[05:05] <freakabcd> ok wtf!!
[05:05] <emet> cause I can't get fglrx to provide it
[05:05] <adaptr> Sanne: any reason for not using gparted ?
[05:06] <freakabcd> how the hell did it remember my session settings?
[05:06] <Seveas> freakabcd, magic
[05:06] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: what is the IP of your server, and what is your client ?
[05:06] <freakabcd> i removed all .gnome* .gtk* .nautilus*
[05:06] <Sanne> adaptr: I never used it - would you recommend it?
[05:06] <Frogzoo> freakabcd: sys -> prefs -> session
[05:06] <Seveas> freakabcd, .gconf?
[05:06] <adaptr> Sanne: of course, using cfdisk when you have gaprted available is like... uugh
[05:06] <freakabcd> and the freaking thing remembered the nautilus spatial crap. and even started beryl!!
[05:06] <ardchoille> freakabcd: ~/.gconf is where you gconf settings are stored.
[05:06] <freakabcd> how the heck?
[05:06] <gxr|sleep> I'm trying to see if my sound card drivers will be compatible before I install, and it asks what OS am I running
[05:06] <nykkto> speedwolf: check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-315745.html
[05:06] <freakabcd> Seveas, yeah all .gconf .gconfd
[05:06] <Frogzoo> freakabcd: you need to remove those while gdm is not running
[05:06] <freakabcd> how the heck did it remember??
[05:06] <Seveas> freakabcd, btw !language :)
[05:07] <emet> AlexC_, what driver package do you use ?
[05:07] <unity> 18 Feb 11:06:50 ntpdate[4736] : step time server 198.72.72.10 offset 540656693.146823 sec
[05:07] <freakabcd> Frogzoo, which gdm is not running? what for
[05:07] <AlexC_> emet: fglrx
[05:07] <Sanne> adaptr: heh... when I started with linux, there were only fdisk and cfdisk. I'm just unfamiliar with those gui partitioning tools.
[05:07] <freakabcd> gdm has got nothing to do with this iirc
[05:07] <speedwolf> nykkto: I was just reading that, not getting much out of it at the moment though
[05:07] <AlexC_> emet: fglrx and XGL, works fine...though I'd rather be running AIGLX with nVidia :P
[05:07] <adaptr> freakabcd: nautilus settings are in /.gnome-private, or something, or perhaps gnome2
[05:07] <GrimSleeper> I just installed ubuntu, and then updated, now my admin password doesnt work?
[05:07] <adaptr> freakabcd: gtk2, even
[05:07] <thcmonkey> can ubuntu untar as redhat does?
[05:07] <freakabcd> Seveas, yeah sorry. i'm frustrated beyond my expectations!
[05:07] <gxr|sleep> I'm trying to see if my sound card drivers will be compatible before I install, and it asks what OS am I running
[05:07] <Frogzoo> freakabcd: gnome keeps that cached
[05:07] <AlexC_> !repeat | gxr|sleep
[05:07] <ubotu> gxr|sleep: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:07] <emet> AlexC_, yah but I can't even do XGL cause I have NO 3d acceleration for some reason
[05:07] <Seveas> freakabcd, then take a relaxing walk :)
[05:07] <adaptr> Sanne: then perhaps Ubuntu is.. not for you ? :)
[05:08] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr why are you saying server and client ?   there are two computer on the same network ... both ubuntu .. one its 10.0.0.6 and the other 10.0.0.12 ... both have a shared directory named " test " and both have /media/test  i tried to mount it both ways , none worked
[05:08] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: because that is how NFS works
[05:08] <AlexC_> emet: have you followed the guide on the Beryl Wiki? I've had this a few times, I don't know what caues it - I usualy give up and reinstall Ubuntu lol
[05:08] <Seveas> Thug-N-Me, pastebin your /etc/exports from .12
[05:08] <ploom> omk
[05:08] <Music_Shuffle> Ugh.
[05:08] <AlexC_> glx|sleep what options does it give you?
[05:08] <padee> ubotu: how do i define a mountpoint? i just created a folder in /mnt and i typed sudo mount -loop myisofile.iso /mnt/newfolder  but nothing happened
[05:08] <Music_Shuffle> How do I...revert to a previous kernel? =/
[05:08] <Seveas> !bot | padee
[05:08] <ubotu> padee: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:08] <AlexC_> padee: Ubotu is a bot
[05:08] <nykkto> speedwolf: it looks like there is no fix, other than new hardware for that listing
[05:08] <Sanne> adaptr: it is, I *love* the ease of setup things. I'll just test gparted, thanks for your help. :)
[05:08] <ardchoille> padee: ubotu is a bot
[05:08] <adaptr> Seveas: he already did, and it looked like he is allowing access from 10.0.0.12 to 10.0.0.12 - rather lacking in functionality
[05:08] <Frogzoo> freakabcd: hit ctrl alt fr - sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop - remove the ~/.gnome2  ~/.gnome - sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:08] <emet> AlexC_, it might be driver regression .. I have the newest versions of the fglrx driver and they are broke, but the older ones used to work fine
[05:08] <padee> what????
[05:08] <padee> a bot???
[05:08] <bulmer> where does ubuntu sets the configuration for remembering such as pictures viewed? under .thumbnails
[05:09] <Seveas> adaptr, ah ok, missed that paste ;)
[05:09] <padee> what de f****
[05:09] <AlexC_> padee: yes, a bot - not a human :P
[05:09] <speedwolf> nykkto: so I'm on a hiding to nothing with this card at the moment then?
[05:09] <moyogo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6406/ there's the strace
[05:09] <rylasasin_> hey everyone whats up again? wow I haven't used linux since last years classes
[05:09] <AlexC_> hello, rylasasin_
[05:09] <jussi01> padee: the computer... :D
[05:09] <freakabcd> Frogzoo, so running gdm freaking keeps the user prefs in cache?
[05:09] <speedwolf> nykkto: maybe I should just buy a more commonly supported card
[05:09] <Frogzoo> bulmer: yar
[05:09] <freakabcd> thats some weird stuff
[05:09] <adaptr> speedwolf: what card ?
[05:09] <padee> jesus.... this is the 21. century... where's the enterprise? ;)
[05:09] <rylasasin_> lol windows finally broke on me.
[05:09] <Frogzoo> freakabcd: it's faster that way
[05:09] <Thug-N-Me> Seveas this is the one from 10.0.0.6 /media/hdg1/test 10.0.0.12(rw) george(rw)        and this is the one from 10.0.0.12  /media/hdg2/test 10.0.0.6(rw) thug(rw)
[05:09] <bulmer> Frogzoo: what is yar?
[05:09] <knoppi1> hey i have question
[05:09] <gxr|sleep> It gives me ( Linux 8.0, Linux 9.0, Enterprise Linux 3, SuSE Linux ES 9, SuSE Linux ES 10, Enterprise Linux 4 ()
[05:09] <freakabcd> huh? ok i'll try that once i guess
[05:09] <Frogzoo> bulmer: yar = yes
[05:10] <AlexC_> !ask | knoppi1
[05:10] <ubotu> knoppi1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:10] <speedwolf> adaptr: Belkin USB Wireless 5D7051
[05:10] <freakabcd> bulmer, yar = yes == yesh
[05:10] <Music_Shuffle> How do I...revert to a previous kernel that's not listed in the GRUB menu? Anyone?
[05:10] <quaal> ardchoille, i found a writeup on making electricsheep the background http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2174563
[05:10] <ssbm> hello everyone, I need help Setting up my Netgear MA521 Wireless card in xubuntu. Does anyone know how to do it
[05:10] <quaal> if you use it
[05:10] <knoppi1> Alexc i i'm running knoppix from pen drive
[05:10] <emet> AlexC_, how long you think before ATI add support for AIGLX extensions ?
[05:10] <freakabcd> damn, logging off again
[05:10] <Seveas> emet, a few years...
[05:10] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: an NFS share is not like a windows share.. you have to use the full pathname
[05:10] <AlexC_> emet: haha yeah, like Seveas said
[05:10] <knoppi1> AlexC but i wan to save the updates in the pen drive not from the ramdrive
[05:10] <GrimSleeper> Anyone know how to turn my icons for the panel menus?
[05:10] <adaptr> speedwolf: ew - wouldn't touch that stuff with a 10-footer
[05:10] <knoppi1> Alexc could you help.
[05:10] <manligfe> Hey guys, I have a somewhat annoying issue. For some reason Xorg uses between 25 and 50% of my CPU constantly... I've been trying to find the cause but without success, I'm running edgy on an AMD 3500+ and with an ATI radeon x600 card and thus with the fglrx driers. Any suggestions are welcome
[05:10] <bulmer> Frogzoo: oh okay..you know which config file to set remembering or not remembering pictures viewed and it is stored under ~/.thumbnails ?
[05:11] <padee> I still didnt figure out mounting my iso-file problem
[05:11] <AlexC_> knoppi1: my name is AlexC_ not AlexC. Ask you'requestion to everyone, not just me.
[05:11] <Seveas> moyogo, i see this in the strace: read(6, 0x80880c2, 26718)               = -1 EIO (Input/output error)
[05:11] <codecaine> hi when you login to ubuntu xession how does it automatic mount the harddrives on the desktop for you? where can I disable and enable them?
[05:11] <speedwolf> adaptr: I wasn't intending on going Linux when I bought it, it was cheap and it worked under XP
[05:11] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr you mean mont -t nfs 10.0.0.12:/home/george/test /media/test ?
[05:11] <Seveas> moyogo, that might mean your harddisk is broken/dying
[05:11] <knoppi1> AlexC_ ok can you help
[05:11] <jussi01> ssbum: does it have a broadcomm chipset?
[05:11] <ardchoille> quaal: That's cool. But, I won't be using beryl :)
[05:11] <Frogzoo> bulmer: I have no idea how to stop all pics getting thumbnailed
[05:11] <arunkumaran> !offtopic
[05:11] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:11] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: yes, I mean that that cannot and will not work
[05:11] <gxr|sleep> AlexC_, It gives me ( Linux 8.0, Linux 9.0, Enterprise Linux 3, SuSE Linux ES 9, SuSE Linux ES 10, Enterprise Linux 4 (
[05:11] <af_> hi to all
[05:11] <bulmer> Frogzoo: okay..thanks
[05:11] <michi_> hi guys, how do i get my usb microphone - logitech - to work ?
[05:11] <AlexC_> knoppi1: ask you're question to everyone, if I know of a way to help you - I will =)
[05:11] <Music_Shuffle> codecaine, /etc/fstab
[05:11] <adaptr> speedwolf: understandable, but rather a mess now, eh ? :)
[05:12] <quaal> ardchoille, ah ok
[05:12] <manligfe> Anyoe
[05:12] <Seveas> moyogo, as a temporary solution: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu* && sudo apt-get update
[05:12] <moyogo> Seveas: is there anyway to rewrite or start the db from scratch?
[05:12] <Hedegaard> heyy.... an external hard drive questions - i think i might have removed it wrong - hence i can no longer mount it (it's ntfs)  - $logfile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0) -- what do about it ? :)
[05:12] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr how will the users now the full path then from the other machine ? they prob only know the share name .. this is stupid
[05:12] <af_> may put a simple X session (like what startx  does) at boot time?
[05:12] <nykkto> speedwolf: yah it seems that one just does not work (yet)
[05:12] <Seveas> moyogo, but please do investigate the health of your disk
[05:12] <knoppi1> i have knoppix installed in pen drive and i want it to save the data in the pen drive no to ramdrive
[05:12] <AlexC_> gxr|sleep: I've never heard of Linux 9 or 9 =\ ... If it works with those other distros, it most probably will work in Ubuntu (but it also may not)
[05:12] <knoppi1> some one here.
[05:12] <Hedegaard> what to do about it even :)
[05:12] <speedwolf> adaptr: not a mess really, just unsupported even with the latest ndis, I guess I'll just have to wait
[05:12] <codecaine> I don't see how it makes the shortcuts on the desktop though
[05:12] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: because you ( the sysadmin) will tell them the share name, presumably
[05:12] <abhinay> My memory stick got currupted, how can i fix it ?  iam getting this error : Error: Unable to open /dev/sdb1 - unrecognised disk label
[05:12] <knoppi1> it is like UBuntu but some more commands
[05:12] <ardchoille> knoppi1: I believe you're in the wrong channel for that.
[05:12] <speedwolf> nykkto: yeah, was thinking that, just have to wait and see if it comes up later
[05:12] <Music_Shuffle> Nobody can explain to me how I can revert to a previous kernel that -did- work with the Nvidia drivers? :(
[05:12] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: in NFS, the entire path *is* the share name
[05:13] <kitche> knoppi1: ask in the #knoppix channel this is for ubuntu
[05:13] <Seveas> abhinay, format it
[05:13] <yasi8h> hey people! i have some problems with my sound, it gets stuck after some 20 mins of use then i have to restart the comp to get it back to working,, any help on this?
[05:13] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr even with the full share path ... " doesnt work "
[05:13] <Thug-N-Me> mount: 10.0.0.12:/test failed, reason given by server: Permission denied
[05:13] <knoppi1> kitche they there don;t speak
[05:13] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: if you find this ugly, you can allow symlinking and symlinkk the share to something under /media, or /nfs
[05:13] <abhinay> Seveas: how ?
[05:13] <Frogzoo> Hedegaard: best bet - boot it under doze
[05:13] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: you're not showing actual output and commandlines... not useful
[05:13] <Seveas> abhinay, mkfs.fat32 /dev/sdsomething
[05:13] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: umm how many kernels do you have showing up under /boot ?
[05:13] <Hedegaard> Frogzoo, Going to be very difficult ;) any other solution ?
[05:14] <Seveas> knoppi1, that doesn't mean this is a knoppix channel...
[05:14] <Music_Shuffle> bulmer, 2.
[05:14] <AlexC_> knoppi1: this is and always will be Ubuntu support, just because Knoppix may not be as busy doesn't mean it's ok to ask in here
[05:14] <ssbm> does anyone know how to setup a Wireless card with the RealTek 8180L chipset
[05:14] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: by definition, NFS will connect to a share with the current user - if that user is not the same under the other box, you will have problems when connecting to a users' home directory
[05:14] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: pick the older one then? modify your menu.lst to reflect it
[05:14] <cbx33> if I wanted to create my own apt repo for some private pacakges
[05:14] <slippyr4> can anyone help me, i am really stuck here. I'm trying to move my root filesystem to an LVM logical volume.  everything is fine, except my initramfs never activates the volume group, so boot falls over cos it can't find the root filesystem. I'm then dropped into busybox, where i can activate the filesystems and from there everything works. why won't the initramfs activate my volume groups?
[05:14] <knoppi1> Seveas ehhhh,only question
[05:14] <cbx33> how would I go abotu it~;/
[05:14] <Music_Shuffle> And the first, I can't even get into X with (the later one), and the second...is the one I'm using now, but everything is unstable beyond belief.
[05:14] <Music_Shuffle> bulmer, ^
[05:14] <knoppi1> i know
[05:15] <nykkto> speedwolf: oh I missed some thing, I wonder if you need to try a differnet version of ndiswrapper.  go to the ndiswrapper web site and search for the ID string, I and try one of the listed wrapper versinos
[05:15] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr all you are saying doesnt help me at all
[05:15] <knoppi1> but if someone can tell that.
[05:15] <AlexC_> knoppi1: #knoppix
[05:15] <rylasasin_> hmmm if counterstrike works well enough with wine I might just stick with linux :P
[05:15] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr shareing directorys shouldnt be that hard
[05:15] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: oh well, if you've done upgrades maybe those caused your issues..i dont know how to resolve those
[05:15] <big_head> hello
[05:15] <Seveas> cbx33, grab falcon from my repo - it's very easy to use :)
[05:15] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: unless you can explain sufficiently what you are doing and what the result is, how do you expect anybody to helpo you ?
[05:15] <AlexC_> Hi,
[05:15] <cbx33> ryanakca, I use CS:Source with wine
[05:15] <knoppi1> AlexC_ im in the channel and no one talk
[05:15] <cbx33> Seveas, hehe thought you'd know how to do it
[05:15] <Music_Shuffle> bulmer, right, is there any way to...-undo- them? =/
[05:16] <cbx33> seeing as you have one :p
[05:16] <jussi01> rylasasin: counterstrike runs nice with crossover..not sure about wine
[05:16] <AlexC_> knoppi1: that does not mean it's ok to ask the question here, this is Ubuntu support, _not_ knoppix support.
[05:16] <Thug-N-Me> adaptr yeah whatever ... samba seems to be a lot easyer
[05:16] <abhinay> Seveas: thank you :)
[05:16] <rylasasin_> Cbx33: how well does it work?
[05:16] <cbx33> jussi01, CS:Source works fine under wine
[05:16] <Music_Shuffle> bulmer, especially since I'm not even sure which was the problematic one to begin with.
[05:16] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: and it isn't hard - if you would use the Ubuntu GUI tools for it
[05:16] <cbx33> I get 4-50 fps
[05:16] <cbx33> 40-50
[05:16] <knoppi1> AlexC_: ok i have installed UBUntu pen drive and want to save data to usb no to ramdrive
[05:16] <adaptr> Thug-N-Me: whatever, eh ? /plonked, byebye
[05:16] <cbx33> on 1024x768
[05:16] <jussi01> cbx33: excellent, nice to hear
[05:16] <cbx33> with pretty much most settings on high
[05:16] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: nope, i have not learned those yet, to dis-upgrade or un-upgrade(?)
[05:16] <cbx33> I do have a pretty nice machine
[05:16] <GrimSleeper> I'd like to set my time, but ubuntu is not accepting my password.
[05:16] <cbx33> but nothing out of the ordinary
[05:17] <cbx33> Seveas, does falcon have a url?
[05:17] <KoCeTo> hi
[05:17] <AlexC_> hi
[05:17] <adaptr> GrimSleeper: sudo date not working ?
[05:17] <KoCeTo> kak si
[05:17] <KoCeTo> :)
[05:17] <bulmer> GrimSleeper you can not log on at all?
[05:17] <Seveas> cbx33, not atm, but it has a pdf with detailed instructions
[05:17] <cbx33> bascsailyl I'll be creating it on my machine then uploading it via ftp
[05:17] <Music_Shuffle> bulmer, well, I'd rather -not- fly forward into Feisty just yet, and I don't think you can undo...is there any way to move / to its own partition separate from the main one?
[05:17] <cbx33> will falcon be ok for that?
[05:17] <jussi01> !hi KoCeTo
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi koceto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <Seveas> cbx33, falcon can do scp/rsync uploads natively
[05:17] <Dagmar> Music_Shuffle: *kofkof* / *is* the main partition
[05:18] <cbx33> Seveas, nice
[05:18] <padee> tnx all
[05:18] <GrimSleeper> Im at the desktop, but it ask for my admin password.
[05:18] <cbx33> did you write it?
[05:18] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: you can always have a partition assigned to /boot separate from / and separate from /usr
[05:18] <freakabcd> ok what the hell is going on
[05:18] <Seveas> cbx33, yes
[05:18] <AlexC_> GrimSleeper: no, it asks for your user password
[05:18] <cbx33> thoguht so
[05:18] <cbx33> is it on LP as a product?
[05:18] <Seveas> yup
[05:18] <cbx33> so if I fin a bug I can submit it?
[05:18] <freakabcd> i stopped gdm, got rid of the directories/conf files
[05:18] <cbx33> :p
[05:18] <cbx33> not that I will
[05:18] <adaptr> !language | freakabcd
[05:18] <ubotu> freakabcd: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:18] <cbx33> hehe
[05:18] <freakabcd> then even rebooted the machine!
[05:18] <Music_Shuffle> Dagmar, yes yes, I realize. Except...my /home is far too large %-wise to copy it to its own partition, hence...I can't shift it across, I don't think..can I?
[05:18] <freakabcd> adaptr, hell is not family friendly ?
[05:18] <adaptr> !pill | freakabcd
[05:18] <rylasasin_> yeah I had a windows machine with dual 6800gs es
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pill - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <GrimSleeper> I mean for setting the time.
[05:18] <Seveas> freakabcd, hell is too warm ;)
[05:18] <adaptr> freakabcd: it's unnecessary
[05:18] <moyogo> Seveas: that worked thanks
[05:19] <AlexC_> GrimSleeper: yes, it's asking for your user password
[05:19] <cbx33> Seveas, what's your repo again?
[05:19] <Dagmar> Music_Shuffle: You've not started trying to compress it all?
[05:19] <freakabcd> well, for a few of us i guess
[05:19] <Seveas> !seveas > cbx33
[05:19] <Sanne> cbx33: dunno if somebody already answered: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocalAptGetRepository and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
[05:19] <clearze2> can someone tell me what exactly apt-spy does?
[05:19] <Music_Shuffle> Dagmar, compress like...with Ark or whatever the little archiving tool is called?
[05:19] <rylasasin_> though either windows or the hard drive failed me... (It stalls at the windows loading screen, the black one with the windows logo and the blue bar) so i'm using my school project as a computer
[05:19] <freakabcd> anyway. ardchoille you are not going to believe what i am going to screenshot now
[05:19] <adaptr> Music_Shuffle: you need at least $HOME$ space free to move it, yes
[05:19] <Seveas> clearze2, it installs spyware
[05:19] <cbx33> thanks Sanne
[05:19] <freakabcd> wait a minute or so.
[05:20] <Sanne> cbx33: you're welcome
[05:20] <ardchoille> freakabcd: oooohhhh, I wanna see.. I wanna see!
[05:20] <Music_Shuffle> adaptr, yeah, 300/320 are full, that's not happening :P
[05:20] <adaptr> Music_Shuffle: and no space left on /, either ?
[05:20] <cbx33> Seveas, does falcon handle deb-src and deb?
[05:20] <GrimSleeper> hmm what happends if you don't have a administrative password?
[05:20] <Seveas> cbx33, of course
[05:21] <Music_Shuffle> adaptr, the drive in total has 22of 320 free, but unless I can get everything magically working again program-wise, this, me thinks, is going to take a reinstall.
[05:21] <adaptr> GrimSleeper: you never have one - use your own password
[05:21] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: start in /tmp for stuff you can remove, get a new cdrom disk ready to transfer your files there
[05:21] <AlexC_> GrimSleeper: you don't need one. When Ubuntu asks for a password it asks for you're user password.
[05:21] <_Thomas> adaptr: Ok, I think I've found a bug in the installer
[05:21] <AlexC_> GrimSleeper: like I've said 3 times :P
[05:21] <hagabaka> /etc/mime.types has text/x-python, while KDE has application/x-python. which one is correct?
[05:21] <adaptr> _Thomas: :(
[05:21] <Seveas> cbx33, go to http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl - all html is autogenerated by falcon
[05:21] <cbx33> Seveas, what section is it in?
[05:21] <Seveas> extras
[05:21] <GrimSleeper> Doesnt seem to be working now...
[05:21] <moyogo> Seveas: should I do a fsck?
[05:21] <rylasasin> i'm thinking though if it handles counterstrike good enogh (if it lags i'll just add in one of those 6800s I mentioned) I might just stick with this system
[05:21] <Seveas> !falcon | cbx33
[05:21] <ubotu> cbx33: falcon: Falcon repository creator. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy-seveas), package size 175 kB, installed size 508 kB
[05:21] <Seveas> moyogo, that'd be wise
[05:22] <cbx33> thanks
[05:22] <Seveas> and maybe even a low-level check
[05:22] <freakabcd> !paste > freakabcd
[05:22] <bulmer> Sevears whats the command for low level checks?
[05:22] <_Thomas> adaptr: Because when I entered the busybox shell, and created those two md-devices as md1 and md2 (md0 is already busy with a raid5 not completely rebuilt, and can therefore not be mounted), they appeared in the partition-manager and I could add swap and / to them
[05:22] <rinman> hi, have a small problem. when I login with SSH some chars are replaced by '' or similar. guess this is char-set config problem, but is it on the client or server side and where do i change the setting?
[05:22] <bulmer> Seveas whats the command for low level checks?
[05:22] <Seveas> bulmer, good question ;)
[05:22] <adaptr> Music_Shuffle: 220GB free ? so what 's the problem ? copy /home over to wherever you have that much space, remove /home, put /home on own partition, move contents back over, re-install system without touching /home....
[05:22] <_Thomas> adaptr: So it's the part for creating md-devices that bugs, it seems
[05:22] <Ulti2001> hey guy
[05:23] <BreakDecks> apt-get doesn't work.  No matter what I do, it tries to install Samba, and gives me this:
[05:23] <BreakDecks> subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 102
[05:23] <BreakDecks> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:23] <BreakDecks>  /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.2_i386.deb
[05:23] <BreakDecks> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:23] <AlexC_> !paste | BreakDecks
[05:23] <ubotu> BreakDecks: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:23] <adaptr> _Thomas: okay, but yoou're past it noo ? congrats!
[05:23] <Music_Shuffle> adaptr, no no, not 220 free. 22 free of 320 is what I said :(
[05:23] <TN_> what program do i use to stream nasa tv using dapper
[05:23] <_Thomas> adaptr: Yeah, formatting and stuff now :)
[05:23] <Seveas> BreakDecks, pastebin the *complete* output please
[05:23] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: start in /tmp for stuff you can remove, get a new cdrom disk ready to transfer your files there
[05:23] <adaptr> Music_Shuffle: oh.., well, what you *wrote* was "220 f320"...
[05:23] <Ulti2001> guys i a complete new to linux but i am learning alot
[05:23] <emet> does "sudo" work with GTK+ and Qt apps as of Edgy ?
[05:23] <Ulti2001> right now i am trying to install gyachi
[05:23] <Music_Shuffle> adaptr, oh, that was an o, wasn't it? From the 'of' that I butchered. >.>
[05:24] <adaptr> emet: use gksudo or gksu
[05:24] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[05:24] <Seveas> emet, or kdesu :)
[05:24] <Ulti2001> and i have the *.dep file but i can't install it because it depends on another file
[05:24] <Ulti2001> i was wondering how i get that file
[05:24] <freakabcd> ardchoille, adaptr watch and try to shed a tear for me, would you? http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nautilusposdl0.jpg
[05:24] <adaptr> Ulti2001: presuming you mean "deb", use aptitude instead of apt-get
[05:24] <GrimSleeper> Okay I'll be back later.
[05:24] <Music_Shuffle> bulmer, Right...but that's not going to free up the 200+ I have locked up as movie files.
[05:24] <vjacob> hey ubuntu users, sorry for the non-related question, but do any of you know general site where bloggers are paid for their blogging?
[05:25] <adaptr> !spam | vjacob
[05:25] <ubotu> vjacob: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[05:25] <ardchoille> freakabcd: OUCH!
[05:25] <Seveas> vjacob, offtopic talk elsewhere
[05:25] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: you have a cdrom attached? you can move it there noh?
[05:25] <AlexC_> adaptr: no, its not in the repos so you apt-get/apttitude
[05:25] <freakabcd> ardchoille, this is a fresh start!
[05:25] <freakabcd> unbelievable
[05:25] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: you have a writable* cdrom attached? you can move it there noh?
[05:25] <Sanne> Ulti2001: try first to install from the official repositories with apt/synaptic/aptitude, then the dependencies will be got for you. See here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[05:25] <ardchoille> freakabcd: Indeed.
[05:25] <BreakDecks> apt-get problem:  http://pastebin.com/883707
[05:25] <Music_Shuffle> And there's no way to move / to the empty space I have left and use this partition as /home?
[05:25] <ablyss> emet: it works but it's recommended for you to use gksu or kdesu when running UI apps
[05:26] <adaptr> freakabcd: what should I do with that ?
[05:26] <Seveas> hmmm....
[05:26] <freakabcd> man, i guess my dapper->edgy transition was more messed up than i had imagined :(
[05:26] <ardchoille> freakabcd: Did you happen to back up $HOME recently? You can restore settings from it.
[05:26] <vjacob> seveas: thank you
[05:26] <Music_Shuffle> bulmer, Uhh...each file's 350, soo 2 per disk, take a -lot- of disks, and I lack a DVD writer in this PC =/
[05:26] <moyogo> Seveas: is ok to do fsck now, or should i do after booting in recovery mode?
[05:26] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: I asked you about using a cdrom or DVD to write
[05:26] <freakabcd> adante, note the absolute lack of options on the right pane?
[05:26] <freakabcd> ardchoille, no i did not.
[05:26] <adaptr> freakabcd: not really, I never use it
[05:26] <ardchoille> freakabcd: There's something to be said for tarring up $HOME on a daily basis :)
[05:26] <Seveas> moyogo, better to do it from a live cd, that way it can also fix errors if it finds any
[05:26] <Sasa> I have two questions that are bothering me: 1. I still cannot connect to my WPA wireless network, and 2. which would be the best application for ripping DVD's (I own them, of course)
[05:26] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: you have another computer? you can transfer it over?
[05:26] <freakabcd> maybe this is kde finally giving me a call
[05:27] <Seveas> Sasa, what kind of wifi card?
[05:27] <ardchoille> freakabcd: If you get tired of nautilus, gnome-commander is quite nice
[05:27] <adaptr> ardchoille: everything that could be said for it will quickly fall to pieces when your $HOME is 100GB+
[05:27] <freakabcd> ardchoille, i don;t care about settings much. except the blender setings and some other software i really use and my data
[05:27] <clearze2>  Sasa: For DVD's I would use acidrip
[05:27] <Sasa> seveas: dell truemobile...it's a dell laptop
[05:27] <Seveas> Sasa, do you know which chipset?
[05:27] <ardchoille> adaptr: Yikes! My $HOME never gets over 10Mb, maybe you need another hard drive as storage?
[05:27] <Music_Shuffle> bulmer, the other PC has a 160, with a DVD writer, if that becomes what I -have- to do, but is there no..other way to juggle the partitions? =/
[05:28] <TN_> how do i get media streams,with dapper
[05:28] <adaptr> 570 Ultra ! oops, sorry - too enthousiastic there...
[05:28] <adaptr> ardchoille: neither doe smine, but I'm just saying
[05:28] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: i would rather save it to the other computer first to ensure safety of data you have..
[05:28] <richee> ardchoille: Hi I hope u remember me
[05:28] <richee> long time !
[05:28] <Sasa> seveas: p4
[05:28] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: if you have only 22Megs left..you cant do much
[05:28] <adaptr> Sasa: P4 is not a chipset
[05:28] <freakabcd> well.. i guess its time to try out kde. back in a moment
[05:28] <Seveas> Sasa, I mean which wifi chipset :)
[05:28] <Music_Shuffle> 22 gigs*
[05:28] <ardchoille> richee: Hi! Long time :)
[05:29] <Sasa> pentium four
[05:29] <richee> Folks I am getting this error when I do a sudo apt-get update
[05:29] <richee> Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:29] <richee> Reading package lists... Done
[05:29] <richee> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:29] <Music_Shuffle> So I have enough room to sorta play around, jus tnot...very much.
[05:29] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: that should be plenty enuff
[05:29] <Sasa> seveas, give me an example
[05:29] <AlexC_> !paste | richee
[05:29] <ubotu> richee: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:29] <{Nathan}> Whenever I try to apt anything, I get this error message -- http://rafb.net/p/FoC3fN39.html
[05:29] <charles> hi is there a way to get a S3 VT8375 ProSavage8 card to work with beryl?
[05:29] <adaptr> Music_Shuffle: so your /home is like... 250 GB or so ? that's scary
[05:29] <Seveas> Sasa, is the laptop connected right now (with a cable)?
[05:29] <Sasa> yes
[05:29] <Music_Shuffle> adaptr, yeah, I'm like the poster child for putting /home on a separate partition at this point ;P
[05:29] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: paste your df -h  somewhere were we can see
[05:30] <Seveas> Sasa, then open a terminal, type lspci and paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:30] <Seveas> !paste | richee
[05:30] <ubotu> richee: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:30] <richee> oh ok
[05:30] <ablyss> i put my $HOME on a seperate xfs partition
[05:30] <adaptr> Music_Shuffle: actually, you're like the lost, demented, abused god-son of NOT PUTTING YOUR MP3/Pr0n on your $HOME drive :)
[05:30] <henriw156> Could someone help me. My ither PC is installing Ubuntu but on step 5 it freeses
[05:30] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: there  !paste | Music_Shuffle
[05:30] <pepe_lucho> P3L|C4N0: pajarraco!!
[05:30] <Music_Shuffle> Rofllll
[05:30] <Seveas> adaptr, :p
[05:30] <Spee_Der> Hello world.
[05:31] <adaptr> Seveas: what the ?
[05:31] <Seveas> hi Spee_Der
[05:31] <Music_Shuffle> adaptr, that too, 'cept this isn't at all :(
[05:31] <Sasa> seveas....sorry I'm a gui person...linux noob, where can I find the terminal
[05:31] <bulmer> henriw156: whats the step 5? i cant remember whats being asked there
[05:31] <Music_Shuffle> Sasa, alt-f2, gnome-terminal
[05:31] <adaptr> Seveas: it falls over the p-word ?
[05:31] <Spee_Der> Nice to see you again Seveas.
[05:31] <Seveas> Sasa, applications -> accessories
[05:31] <ardchoille> Seveas is in a good mood I see :)
[05:31] <richee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6413/
[05:31] <Sasa> sweet, thank you
[05:31] <henriw156> umm its when it prepares the disk space
[05:31] <richee> I am getting this error
[05:31] <GrimSleeper> How do you play divx in ubuntu
[05:31] <{Nathan}> henriw156, how much memory do you have?
[05:31] <Seveas> !divx | GrimSleeper
[05:31] <ubotu> GrimSleeper: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:31] <jahid> hi, when i'm trying to open pdf file, its opening in "pdf viewer". and i cant edit pdf file there. can anyone tell me how can edit pdf file?
[05:31] <ablyss> bascially created the xfs partition, copied my my $HOME directory to it, set the correct permissions, told /etc/fstab to mount it, rebooted
[05:31] <richee> I guess something wrong with my /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:31] <GrimSleeper> thx
[05:32] <henriw156> im not shure but its an old pc.
[05:32] <Seveas> jahid, install windows and adobe acrobat
[05:32] <henriw156> if you mean HD space then 4 GIG
[05:32] <bulmer> henriw156: what is it complaining about?  not recognizing your hard disk?
[05:32] <rylasasin> hey is there a plugin for widescreen support?
[05:32] <GrimSleeper> !divx
[05:32] <nagyv> anyone using prevu here? I would like to build frozen bubble v2, but it depends on libsdl-pango-dev, what builds fine with prevu, but is not found when I would like to build frozen bubble.
[05:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:32] <jahid> Seveas, install windos means?
[05:32] <{Nathan}> henriw156, you should try the alternative install disk, it requires 196 or more mb of ram or it will crash.
[05:32] <henriw156> no it just has the spin icon
[05:32] <Seveas> jahid, i mean "install windows"
[05:32] <{Nathan}> henriw156, the alt install does not have this bug
[05:32] <Seveas> that OS from microsoft
[05:32] <bulmer> henriw156: also prefend your responses with the nick so it can not be missed
[05:32] <henriw156> ok
[05:32] <AlexC_> Seveas: is it not possible to edit PDF's in Linux?!
[05:33] <richee> anyone can afford to help ?
[05:33] <AlexC_> !anyone | richee
[05:33] <ubotu> richee: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:33] <jahid> Seveas, you means the OS? but i am in Ubuntu. and i want to edit pdf in Ubuntu
[05:33] <Seveas> AlexC_, there is no adobe acobat for linux
[05:33] <adaptr> AlexC_: not to my knowledge
[05:33] <car_> yes is possible
[05:33] <henriw156> bulmer: how big is the alternate CD
[05:33] <{Nathan}> henriw156, it's the same size as the normal one
[05:33] <Music_Shuffle> bulmer, http://pastebin.ca/362190
[05:33] <Seveas> AlexC_, many apps can export to pdf, but a native 'pdf editor' isn't really available
[05:33] <emet> !wine
[05:33] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:33] <bulmer> AlexC_: you can convert it to ps and then modify postscript ?
[05:33] <henriw156> dang
[05:33] <richee> AlexC_: getting this error dude http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6413/
[05:33] <henriw156> oh well
[05:33] <henriw156> *start downloadin*
[05:33] <Sasa> seveas
[05:33] <Sasa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6415/
[05:33] <AlexC_> richee: I can't help sorry, busy :P
[05:34] <emet> apt-get install wine
[05:34] <jahid> can anyone tell me how can i edit pdf file in Ubuntu?
[05:34] <richee> AlexC_: :p muahahahahaha !
[05:34] <emet> then wine acrobat.exe
[05:34] <LordKeiden> how do i add me to another group? the gui in gnome control center doesn't list the group i want to be a part of.
[05:34] <adaptr> emet: hardly.. how about buyt acrobat, ($100+), install it on wine, grumble and bitch for a few hours, and *then* run wine acrobat.exe
[05:34] <freakabcd> uh..
[05:34] <henriw156> bulmer: could you send me a bit torrent link to the .iso file?
[05:34] <emet> lol
[05:35] <Seveas> Sasa, ah... broadcom crapola
[05:35] <bulmer> AlexC_: you can convert it to ps and then modify the postscript result ?
[05:35] <richee> LordKeiden: I guess trying using usermod -G
[05:35] <Seveas> Sasa, search for broadcom on help.ubuntu.com
[05:35] <AlexC_> bulmer: what?
[05:35] <richee> LordKeiden: see the options
[05:35] <Sasa> ok
[05:35] <adaptr> bulmer: then it won't be "editing PDF" anymore
[05:35] <freakabcd> looks weird after coming back to kde after a very long vacation in gnome
[05:35] <bulmer> henriw156: i dont know where to get that, you may need to google
[05:35] <car_> PDFEdit for unix
[05:35] <Seveas> LordKeiden, sudo adduser username_here groupname_here
[05:35] <adaptr> LordKeiden: man gpasswd
[05:35] <car_> http://pdfedit.petricek.net/pdfedit.index_e
[05:35] <merlin2049er> hey, my xwindows failed to load.  what do i do now?
[05:35] <bulmer> AlexC_: yes it would not be editing direct PDF but once you have a postscript you can convert back to pdf noh?
[05:35] <adaptr> Seveas: that has never worked.. he doesn't want to create a *user*
[05:36] <ablyss> LordKeiden: for a single file you can do 'sudo chown group1:group2 <file>
[05:36] <Seveas> adaptr, "adduser user group" doesn't create a user :)
[05:36] <emet> adaptr, Acrobat has a "SIlver" rating on WINE appDB, not bad
[05:36] <Ulti2001> hey guys i install gynachi but it depends on libgpgme11 does anyone know how to install this
[05:36] <AlexC_> bulmer: I have no idea, jahid is the one who wanted to know how to edit PDF's
[05:36] <Seveas> adaptr, read the manpage of adduser before looking silly ;)
[05:36] <adaptr> Seveas: since when ? more *buntu "anti-generalisations" ?
[05:36] <bulmer> AlexC_: oh okay...hope he is reading
[05:36] <Sasa> seveas, could you please provide the search link
[05:36] <henriw156> bulmer: what version should i get 6.10 or 6.06
[05:36] <Seveas> adaptr, since debian implemented it eons ago
[05:36] <Seveas> adaptr, don't confuse adduser and useradd
[05:36] <bulmer> henriw156: am using 6.06..
[05:36] <ardchoille> adaptr: sudo adduser user group  <- adds an existing user to an existing group
[05:37] <adaptr> Seveas: I never look silly.. I punish those wh omake me :)
[05:37] <Sasa> help.ubuntu.com doesn't give me  a search button
[05:37] <BreakDecks> http://pastebin.com/883707  Sorry for reposting, but this is an issue I cannot seem to resolve.  It happens with anything I try to install
[05:37] <Seveas> adaptr, then you should hit yourself right now 'cause you look very silly :)
[05:37] <bulmer> henriw156: you can try both, im in the older version
[05:37] <slippyr4> what could cause the ouput of "mount" and /proc/mount to differ?
[05:37] <henriw156> bulmer: thanks *now starts downloading*
[05:37] <Ulti2001> did anyone install gyachi on linux
[05:37] <Ulti2001> in this forum
[05:37] <adaptr> Seveas: admit that squeezig that functionality into adduser looks like having a "grep" option that runs "free"
[05:37] <adaptr> Seveas: totally unrelated, is what I'm referring to...
[05:38] <bulmer> slippyr4: maybe the mounttab cache?
[05:38] <Seveas> adaptr, just admit that you look silly :)
[05:38] <adaptr> Seveas: nevah!
[05:38] <ardchoille> Seveas: You're cool :)
[05:38] <Seveas> BreakDecks, please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org, pastebin.com is unusably slow
[05:38] <Seveas> ablyss, gnome as well ;)
[05:38] <Seveas> ablyss, he just didn't find the 'advanced' button ;)
[05:38] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: you sure didnt leave yourself much room
[05:39] <Seveas> BreakDecks, sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S91samba
[05:39] <kenthomson> I need to know the version of XORG that Ubuntu 6.10 fully updated machine uses. Is it Xorg 7.1 or what? How do i find that out? please HELP
[05:39] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[05:39] <Seveas> kenthomson, it's 7.1
[05:39] <Music_Shuffle> Ok, another question.
[05:39] <kenthomson> Seveas, that was fast :)
[05:39] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: the way you showed it, you cant really move much out of /dev/sda1
[05:39] <Seveas> !xorg-server
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <royel> is there a way to create an additional sudo user?
[05:39] <Seveas> !xserver-xorg
[05:39] <kenthomson> Seveas, And is there a way i can check that?
[05:39] <ablyss> i don't remember seeing an advance button either :(
[05:39] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB
[05:39] <Seveas> royel, add the second user to th admin group
[05:39] <ars3n> i need help installing the latest version of monodevelop (.12)...ubuntu repositories only install version .10
[05:39] <Music_Shuffle> bulmer, yeah, so if I install a new install into the free space, can I them just have it read from the old /home?
[05:39] <henriw156> bulmer: im downloading the 6.06 version
[05:40] <Seveas> kenthomson, apt-cache show xserver-xorg
[05:40] <royel> Seveas: ty
[05:40] <Sasa> Seveas: I pulled up the document that describes enabling broadcom mini pci to work with ubuntu
[05:40] <Sasa> holy moly
[05:40] <Sasa> I would rather plug in the cord
[05:40] <Sasa> lol
[05:40] <kenthomson> Seveas, Does that show the version that is installed on my system or one that is in the repos?
[05:40] <bulmer> henriw156: good luck..come back here once you're done
[05:40] <Seveas> Sasa, yes... broadcom is crap
[05:40] <Seveas> Sasa, even worse with WPA...
[05:40] <Seveas> kenthomson, repos
[05:40] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: you're still avoiding the saving of your file into another puter? hehehe
[05:40] <henriw156> ok *bored cuz i have to wait 2 hours*
[05:40] <Seveas> kenthomson, or use ubotu
[05:41] <Seveas> !info xserver-xorg | kenthomson
[05:41] <ubotu> kenthomson: xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB
[05:41] <bulmer> henriw156: hang around, and you may learn a thing or two, or contribute maybe..
[05:41] <cyris> hey everyone
[05:41] <ablyss> hiya cyris
[05:41] <adaptr> henriw156: 6.06 because ..?
[05:41] <bulmer> adaptr: because i told him thats what i have..lolz
[05:42] <BreakDecks> Seveas: You make my computer happy ^_^.  thanks
[05:42] <Music_Shuffle> bulmer, well, the other PC only has a 160 gig drive in -total-, so I'd need to pull -another- old PC out to fit the other 40 gigs onto, and then it'd be all messy and stuff, so I'm trying to avoid it
[05:42] <henriw156> adaptr: well i guess more programs are compatible with it
[05:42] <Thug-N-Me> why does xorg server not support Sony KDL-V32A12 - 32" Widescreen HD Ready LCD TV  im not able to play movies with mplayer ...any idea ?
[05:42] <kenthomson> Seveas, that helps now only if you could exist in this channel in place of ubotu forever, Ubuntu will be on worlds all desktops even before the next service pack for Vista rolls out M$'s gates (and mind you it is going to be released any moment) :-)
[05:42] <adaptr> henriw156: such as ?
[05:42] <henriw156> i dunno
[05:42] <adaptr> henriw156: unless you mean windows applications, that's not really how it works
[05:42] <ablyss> does ubuntu come w/ a ghostrider theme? man that movie was cool.  lots of fire and kicking bad guys back to hades
[05:42] <kr0magnon> does anyone know if there will be anymore LTS releases in the future?
[05:42] <shatrat> Thug-N-Me, are you trying to use it as a second monitor?
[05:42] <henriw156> more comaptibilty with wine/flash 8
[05:42] <adaptr> henriw156: way to go :)
[05:42] <Seveas> kenthomson, I thought SP1 was scheduled for october ;)
[05:42] <Thug-N-Me> shatrat no
[05:42] <henriw156> adaptr: ??????
[05:42] <kenthomson> Seveas, NEver mind time can run out itself faster than you think!
[05:43] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: not all your music is in one file right? btw you DVD can only fit 4.7 gig at a time, so chopped it up to store into the DVD
[05:43] <shatrat> Thug-N-Me, are you using it as your main monitor?
[05:43] <Seveas> kenthomson, heh
[05:43] <kenthomson> Seveas, Could you answer a question on beryl?
[05:43] <kenthomson> Seveas, the #ubuntu-effects and #beryl channel at freenode like to hibernate a lot!
[05:43] <Seveas> kenthomson, heh
[05:43] <freakabcd> kenthomson: #beryl doesn't hibernate for long
[05:43] <Dagmar> AHA
[05:43] <Seveas> I know very little about beryl
[05:43] <bitur> hmm can anyone help me with wine and wow...? or point me in the direction where i can find help
[05:44] <Thug-N-Me> shatrat i just plug it in only when i want to see some movies ... all other times i use the normal monitor size ;)
[05:44] <Dagmar> Seveas: I finally found the darn thing.  This was what you were referring to earlier, I take it?  http://xkcd.com/c210.html
[05:44] <gnomefreak> kenthomson: it helps if you ask question in the channel
[05:44] <shatrat> bitur, theres a guide linked on the ubuntuforums.org, might even be stickied
[05:44] <Music_Shuffle> bulmer, yeah.
[05:44] <Frogzoo> !appdb | bitur
[05:44] <royel> bitur: there is lots of info about that on the wine forums
[05:44] <ubotu> bitur: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[05:44] <Spee_Der> !wine | bitur
[05:44] <ubotu> bitur: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:44] <henriw156> adaptr: umm what do you mean
[05:44] <Seveas> Dagmar, yeah :D
[05:44] <bitur> i have it installed
[05:44] <bitur> i followed the guide
[05:45] <bulmer> Music_Shuffle: so start chopping...hehehe
[05:45] <Seveas> Dagmar, xkcd rocks
[05:45] <adaptr> henriw156: I asked you what kind of compatibilty you meant, and you said you didnt' know... way to go
[05:45] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[05:45] <shatrat> Thug-N-Me, well, I assume no picture is showing up? Youll need to configure it in your xserver.org.  I think using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should give you the option of adding a second monitor.
[05:45] <bitur> the problem i have is i get into the world it works for about... 1 second then locks up the entire system
[05:45] <freakabcd> Dagmar: lol that particular one is good :)
[05:45] <shatrat> bitur, are you using the -opengl option?
[05:46] <Frogzoo> bitur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[05:46] <kenthomson> One can have beryl installed in the following manners; Beryl on XGL (for older nvidia or ATI cards); Beryl on AIGLX (newer nvidia cards, thats my current installation); Beryl on Nvidia (directly NO AIGLX NEEDED!); Now the point is, i have the latest nvidia drivers from their site installed ("Envy" did it for me), so if i somehow configure beryl in such a manner that it directly uses nvidia without AIGLX will i have a performance gain? (moreover i am s
[05:46] <kenthomson> till not sure whether beryl can run on latest nvidia drivers with xorg 7.1, without AIGLX). Or all of this means nonsense?
[05:46] <bitur> frogzoo i have followed that to a t....
[05:46] <Thug-N-Me> shatrat it does show picture i can use it no .. problem ... its only the mplayer that doesnt want to play movies
[05:46] <bitur> i have tried opengl and d3d
[05:46] <kenthomson> gnomefreak, there you go, it is a pretty long question so i wanted to save the effort if i could, now if only someone would be kind enough to answer :)
[05:46] <bitur> both do same
[05:46] <Seveas> kenthomson, you need #beryl-dev for that ;)
[05:46] <henriw156> adaptr: i mean..... just forget it
[05:46] <kenthomson> Seveas, so what do you think?
[05:46] <Frogzoo> bitur: which vid card & wine --version
[05:46] <bitur> i have disabled pixel shader and vertex shader in wine
[05:47] <Seveas> kenthomson, you need #beryl-dev for that ;) <-- that's what I think
[05:47] <freakabcd> kenthomson: the new nvidia drivers do some of what aiglx does within the driver itself
[05:47] <bitur> ati x1600 and how do i check wine version? i had automatix install it
[05:47] <shatrat> Thug-N-Me, well, mplayer has miles of documentation and its a very command line oriented video player.  You might have to configure it to prefer using that display
[05:47] <kenthomson> freakabcd, alright, please expand on that a little bit or site some source if you want to save some typing :)
[05:47] <kenthomson> Seveas, that is known as IRC lag,
[05:47] <Sasa> well
[05:47] <Guinness_Fan> Is this the channel for Ubuntu noob help questions, or is ther another place?
[05:47] <Thug-N-Me> shatrat totem works fine ... so i dont think its a xorg conf
[05:47] <Frogzoo> bitur: hmmm... when you say you followed the howto to a T, you didn't mention automatix...
[05:47] <freakabcd> kenthomson: why do you want to know this as a user?
[05:47] <Sasa> I am having trouble playing a dvd through the mplayer
[05:47] <Frogzoo> bitur: wine --version
[05:47] <Seveas> bitur, automatix is crap
[05:48] <freakabcd> is no one speaking in #beryl right now ?
[05:48] <Ciaus> yo
[05:48] <Sasa> it says i need to install a necessary plug in for it to play a dvd disc
[05:48] <bitur> i had wine install previously
[05:48] <kenthomson> freakabcd, that aint helping :)
[05:48] <henriw156> adaptr: im getting 6.06 becouse there are more mirrors for it
[05:48] <Sasa> and the acidrip can't rip the dvd
[05:48] <freakabcd> kenthomson: read the beryl wiki page on installation for ubuntu?
[05:48] <Sasa> it's not even starting....it's stuck at "encoding finished, hope it worked"
[05:48] <freakabcd> you can do that i assume?
[05:48] <Frogzoo> bitur: wine --version
[05:48] <bitur> wine .9.31
[05:48] <shatrat> Guinness_Fan, just ask
[05:49] <Thug-N-Me> shatrat what does the warning on the screen mean " unsupported signal adjust pc output  " ? thats what i see on the  bottom corner while using the sony lcd tv
[05:49] <deadeyes> Hi all... I use a notebook and I have a touchpad and a USB mouse... If I dont use the synaptics driver for the touchpad I can use both my mouse and my touchpad. If I enable synaptics driver, I can use all capabilities of my touchpad, but cant use my mouse... can somebody give any direction where I should search? I used a Howto ( http://roback.cc/howtos/2micehowto.php ) but it won't work:s
[05:49] <Frogzoo> bitur: well that's latest actually
[05:49] <freakabcd> kenthomson: note: beryl wiki page for ubuntu and _not_ ubuntu wiki page for beryl
[05:49] <Frogzoo> bitur: you're not overclocking at all?
[05:49] <kenthomson> freakabcd, ok let me go there
[05:49] <Guinness_Fan> I'm having an issue with Thunderbird timing out connecting to my Comcast mail server.  It times out when I telnet, but it pings fine
[05:50] <Guinness_Fan> My wife's windows machine connects fine, and we're both on the same cable line
[05:50] <bitur> no over clocking i followed the guide ive done alot of googleing it seems some people have same problem but somehow fixed it
[05:50] <ablyss> Guinness_Fan: has the thunderbird ever connected and worked?
[05:50] <Meltdown79> Guys, anyone of you made it to install Dreamweaver 8 using WINE or do i have to install it on a windows machine and copy files? I read somewhere that it is possible to install using wine and not copy
[05:50] <Guinness_Fan> The time out has only been happening for about a week, so I wonder if an update did something
[05:50] <Frogzoo> bitur: glxinfo |grep direct
[05:51] <Guinness_Fan> Yes, it worked in Dapper and for the past few months in Edgy
[05:51] <bitur> yes i have drivers installed
[05:51] <bitur> direct rendering yes
[05:51] <Meltdown79> whats the difference between Dapper and Edgy really?
[05:51] <Meltdown79> two different versions only?
[05:51] <Thug-N-Me> shatrat i am able to play movies with mplayer using it but only with vo device set to x11/ ximage/Shm  and not full screen mode :(   if i use default x11/xv doesnt work
[05:51] <Frogzoo> bitur: k, ask in #winehq
[05:51] <kitche> Meltdown79: software and kernel versions
[05:51] <ablyss> Guinness_Fan: its possible the updatet might have replaced some important files.  Maybe try resetting all account info
[05:52] <kr0magnon> did anyone else find v6.10 a little buggy? compared to v6.06?
[05:52] <bitur> ok thanks for help
[05:52] <Guinness_Fan> Resetting the account info within Thunderbird?  Okay I'll try that
[05:52] <Sasa> does anyone know where you specify output directory in acidrip? It says that I don't have enough space in my output directory
[05:52] <kr0magnon> sound like you need more disk space
[05:53] <royel> kr0magnon: 6.10 is a bit more of a "Bleeding Edge" release, whereas 6.06 is the "Stable" LTS branch
[05:53] <shatrat> Thug-N-Me, sorry I dont know that much about mplayer and I dont run dual monitors myself. Im not sure how to specify the right device.
[05:53] <ablyss> Meltdown79: one thing different is edgy's use of dash ( ash ) shell for system shell processing, cron for examples uses dash instead of bash
[05:53] <ablyss> dapper uses bash for everything
[05:54] <[GuS] > hi guys!... i have a problem trying to build packages since feisty 4, using dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc, with this error: "dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address"
[05:54] <kr0magnon> royel, ok yeah i have no problems with 6.06. but 6.10 was a little weird...
[05:54] <[GuS] > what i should do? something change?
[05:54] <mindstate> ablyss: whats the difference between dash and bash?
[05:54] <ablyss> and dash is over 50% faster, from what I can tell
[05:54] <mindstate> ah
[05:55] <patrick_> anyone able to install gnomad2 and use it with a creative zen?
[05:55] <Guinness_Fan> Thanks for the suggestion re:Thunderbird.  That seemed to do the trick
[05:55] <royel> kr0magnon: as should be expected, 6.06 should be darn near rock solid, while 6.10 tries to implement the newest an latest versions of everything.. it is a pretty good distro, but I gotta agree with you that it has "quirks" :)
[05:55] <kenthomson> HELP
[05:55] <kenthomson>  May i have a objective view on this with some clearance? Q1=" are you sure that changing the rendering platfrom is that same as running beryl on nvidia withOUT AIGLX?". Q2="Will i get better performance by running beryl directly on NVIDIA WITHOUT aiglx?"
[05:56] <Mixx> i recently installed about 40+ patches, one of which has interfered with mythtv recognizing my tv card - usually this is because of a new kernel.  has a new kernel been released?  Is there a log of what patches were installed?
[05:56] <charles> join #ubuntu-xgl
[05:56] <adaptr> kenthomson: no idea what you eman, as there is no better way to run beryl than on aiglx
[05:56] <charles> oops-see
[05:56] <charles> :)
[05:56] <ablyss> just have to remember dash isn't good for advanced shell scripts.  so your cron scripts may not work when you upgrade to edgy unless your explicitly pointed shebang to #!/bin/bash
[05:56] <kr0magnon> royel: agreed! :) i'm looking forward to messing around with v7.xx
[05:56] <kenthomson> adaptr, are you sure
[05:57] <merlin2049er> how do i recover from xwindows not starting?
[05:57] <merlin2049er> i can't get a desktop
[05:57] <adaptr> kenthomson: also, I think you misunderstand what it is - AIGLX *is* the way to run beryl directly on nvidia, as it is the opengl extension to xorg
[05:57] <adaptr> kenthomson: quite, yes
[05:57] <adaptr> merlin2049er: error log ?
[05:57] <royel> kr0magnon: lol, not me.. I'm looking forward to sitting down at my desk tomorrow an not having to fix something :)
[05:57] <clearze2> can I have multiple active display sessions?
[05:57] <merlin2049er> hmm, not with me
[05:58] <kr0magnon> royel: good point! haha
[05:58] <adaptr> clearze2: yes...
[05:58] <clearze2> adaptr: how do you do it?
[05:58] <kenthomson> adaptr, you mean there is nothing like running beryl on nvidia (laterst drivers, xorg 7.1) without AIGLX? 100%?
[05:58] <merlin2049er> it couldn't find a fixed font
[05:58] <adaptr> kenthomson: I mean you need opengl to ru beryl, how else would you do that ?
[05:58] <merlin2049er> after a upgrade
[05:59] <adaptr> merlin2049er: check the font paths in xorg.conf, see if it's changed
[05:59] <kr0magnon> i guess i'll stick w/v6.06 till the next stable release.
[05:59] <zyth> If I go run out and buy an nvidia card, will I be able to run beryl and play my 3d games without any strange hacks or kludges?
[05:59] <pardusdestek> Hi channel
[05:59] <mindstate> merlin2049er: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ..it'll bring you to the x windows setup
[05:59] <charles> hi im running a S3 card... when i fireup beryl i get this....Support for non power of two textures missing --> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x42 -->beryl: Support for non power of two textures missing --->beryl: Failed to manage screen: 0
[05:59] <Gog123> oh, think twice, its another day for you in ubuntu paradise
[05:59] <Gog123> :)
[05:59] <ardchoille> zyth: You on Dapper or Edgy?
[05:59] <zyth> ardchoille, edgy
[05:59] <Gog123> i got an update on ubuntu today for a security patch
[05:59] <ardchoille> zyth: I think so
[06:00] <newoxygen> hey, can i burn the iso for ubuntu edgy onto a DVD instead of a CD-R?
[06:00] <speedwolf> what's udev?
[06:00] <ardchoille> !nvidia > zyth
[06:00] <Cugel> I suppose you can.
[06:00] <adaptr> !udev | speedwolf
[06:00] <merlin2049er> ok, thankt's i'll try that
[06:00] <ubotu> speedwolf: udev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 093-0ubuntu18.0edgy2 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 768 kB
[06:00] <merlin2049er> anything else i should try?
[06:00] <royel> kenthomson: the issue is not so much the version of nvidia drivers, but that all of the OSS drives available do not enable 3d rendering, so Beryl will not work with those, Nvidia proprietary drivers however will enable 3d support which is required of Beryl.
[06:00] <ardchoille> zyth: A couple wiki's I saw today say beryl on Dapper can be a lot of work, but Edgy seems to be supported.
[06:01] <adaptr> royel: not that, even.. the path is xorg (aiglx to enable xorg opengl extensions) -> nvidia opengl library -> beryl... you cannot leave one of these out
[06:01] <Spee_Der> newoxygen, yes.
[06:01] <BrendanM>  So when I try to log in, I just immediately get kicked back to the login screen. Suggestions?
[06:01] <Spee_Der> I do that sometimes.
[06:01] <BrendanM> Is it a file permissions issue?
[06:02] <newoxygen> Spee_Der: Thanks for the help!
[06:02] <adaptr> BrendanM: no clue, check your xsession log : cat ~/.xsession-errors
[06:02] <pardusdestek> Trke bilen varm
[06:02] <pardusdestek> Trk varm
[06:02] <pardusdestek> ??
[06:02] <adaptr> no
[06:02] <LjL> !tk | pardusdestek
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <Spee_Der> newoxygen, I usually when making iso's, make one of each in case I need to show someone. It works just fine.
[06:02] <royel> adaptr: I think I might have stuck my nose into a conversation I wasn't fully understanding, thought his issue was more or less the driver version, but yeah, I agree with you. :)
[06:03] <LjL> !tr | pardusdestek
[06:03] <ubotu> pardusdestek: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[06:03] <pardusdestek> ubunbu 6.10 relase download link
[06:03] <pardusdestek> ok
[06:03] <pardusdestek> thanks
[06:03] <adaptr> royel: he is , in essence, asking if he can do beryl without xorg opengl support.. the answer is no
[06:03] <newoxygen> Spee_Der, i'll give it a try later then
[06:03] <pardusdestek> ubotu: sen Trkmsn
[06:03] <royel> adaptr: now I understand :)
[06:03] <marshcast> I'm having prob;ems with usb hotplugging - i'm plugging in a printer but gnome-cups-manager can't see it. syslog says stuff that I can put in pastebin (if someone can give me an address for it) it's saying about "gconfd to a read-only configuration source at position 3" - I'm using a term to start gnome-cups-man - as root. make any sense?
[06:03] <Spee_Der> Ok. Some versions of Linux, like Fedora Core and Suse have a DVD version as well.
[06:04] <royel> !pastebin | marshcast
[06:04] <ubotu> marshcast: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:04] <newoxygen> i'll look into those ones too then, thanks
[06:04] <marshcast> and "device descriptor read/8, error -110"
[06:05] <BrendanM> adaptr, that only gives me info on this session. I'm logged into recovery mode
[06:05] <tprice> has anyone had problems booting from their cd's
[06:05] <Sephiroth> Okay, I just reinstalled Ubuntu, and forgot how I fixed this error: "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" ... How would I fix that?
[06:05] <pardusdestek> ubuntu releases 6.10 download link please
[06:05] <LjL> !build-essential > Sephiroth    (Sephiroth, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:05] <Sephiroth> Thank you.
[06:05] <adaptr> BrendanM: it holds all errors, from previous sessions as well.. look further up, use less
[06:06] <mipstien> you switch xwindows with Ctrl Alt (f-key7-12) right? when i try and switch i get a black screen? how do i switch correctly?
[06:06] <royel> Sephiroth: sorry, your name .. do you play Camelot?
[06:06] <adaptr> mipstien: you need to start sessions on those screens first
[06:06] <pardusdestek> ubuntu releases 6.10 download link please
[06:06] <mipstien> adaptr, how would i go about that?
[06:06] <pardusdestek> FTP adress ?
[06:07] <LjL> !download > pardusdestek    (pardusdestek, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:07] <adaptr> mipstien: by starting more than one login sessions, presumably
[06:07] <Sephiroth> royel: No.
[06:07] <adaptr> Sephiroth: build-essential, it's not an "error"
[06:07] <marshcast> royel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6418/ - usb printer not seen problem...
[06:07] <mipstien> adaptr, well, i assumed that, but i mean sittin here right now whatwould be the steps to take?
[06:07] <pardusdestek> LjL:  thank you
[06:07] <tprice> can anyone help me with installation problems??
[06:07] <adaptr> mipstien: no clue, why would you want to ?
[06:08] <adaptr> !anyone \ tprice
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anyone \ tprice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <adaptr> !anyone | tprice
[06:08] <ubotu> tprice: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:08] <tprice> alright
[06:08] <adaptr> mipstien: you actually want to use multiple users on one system at the same time ?
[06:08] <unity> is sysv-rc-conf a command-line or ncurses thing? i need to edit the startup items on a server accessible only through ssh
[06:09] <adaptr> unity: update-rc.d would be what you need
[06:09] <Sephiroth> Thanks, everyone. :)
[06:09] <clearze2> I'm forwarding a X session from one pc to another but I want to open the X session in a new display session on the recieving computer. How would I open the X session on a new display on the recieving pc?
[06:09] <mipstien> adaptr: yes thx i figured it out
[06:09] <marshcast> in fact - that pastebin url for anyone who may be able to shed light on an error -110 when plugging in a usb printer - gnome-cups-man can't see the printer and it seems to be saying it's something to do with permissions... :/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6418/
[06:09] <unity> adaptr: how can i use it to find a list of all items that are started in each runlevel?
[06:09] <adaptr> unity: man update-rc.d ?
[06:10] <unity> adaptr: it doesn't mention...
[06:10] <tprice> I have a computer with red hat 9 running on it.  I've tried installing ubuntu and xp pro, but neither will boot from cd.  What's the problem??
[06:11] <adaptr> unity: what it does mention is bum, so install that
[06:11] <kitche> tprice: your bios isn't setup to boot from cdrom
[06:11] <unop> unity,  for i in $(seq 1 6); do echo this is runlevel $i; ls -l /etc/rc$i.d/S*; done
[06:12] <thcmonkey> god i love ubuntu
[06:12] <mindstate> thcmonkey: me too! :)
[06:12] <unity> adaptr: wouldn't bum pull in X?
[06:12] <will_> Can someone give me a free file recovery program that I can apt-et?
[06:12] <thcmonkey> does that make us tragic?
[06:12] <will_> apt-get*
[06:12] <ugNexus> why i dont use the fonts ? -----> "fixed" Oo
[06:12] <adaptr> unity: true, sorry - the update-rc.d manapge forgot to mention that..
[06:12] <kenthomson> LjL, you got some understanding of beryl's deeper concepts? I have a question which people give an "obvious" answer to, but they can't be sure
[06:12] <ugNexus> how change this ?
[06:12] <mindstate> it makes us awesome
[06:12] <unity> unop: thanks
[06:12] <thcmonkey> next project is beryl
[06:12] <will_> Please?
[06:12] <LjL> kenthomson, i don't think i have *any* understanding of beryl :)
[06:12] <thcmonkey> can i apt-get it?
[06:13] <LjL> kenthomson: my obvious answer is "ask in #ubuntu-effects" ;)
[06:13] <tprice> kitch:  I changed it to boot from cd, but it won't do it?
[06:13] <LjL> !beryl > thcmonkey    (thcmonkey, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:13] <adaptr> kenthomson: my answers are indeed obvious to anybody who knows how beryl works.. or opengl, for that matter.. why do you persist?
[06:13] <marshcast> royel, did/are you looking at that syslog..? what you reckon, does it make any sense to you? (sorry - no pressure - just seeing if you are or not)
[06:13] <kenthomson> LjL, alright that helped a lot, though i expected it from a person like you, who plays games and watched movies at the CLI :)
[06:13] <unop> unity,  the thing is almost all runlevels are the same on debian/ubuntu -- with the exception of 1, 6 and S
[06:13] <speedwolf> I installed beryl last night and borked up my whole installation, had to reinstall
[06:13] <adaptr> kenthomson: thank-you for the confidence
[06:13] <LjL> kenthomson: heh but *only* at the CLI :P
[06:13] <thcmonkey> i think i have dvt from sitting on my leg too much
[06:14] <speedwolf> which is a shame as it was really pretty for a while
[06:14] <thcmonkey> cheers btw LjL
[06:14] <speedwolf> how do I restart udev?
[06:14] <sogen> #linuxstudio
[06:14] <thcmonkey> i'm upset though
[06:14] <speedwolf> !udev | speedwolf
[06:14] <thcmonkey> i like to be elite
[06:14] <kenthomson> adaptr, please forgive my ignorance, i am really not familiar with all those concepts, so i don't see how your obvious answers relate to my question, if you could really be a little more explanative that would help. I will ask the question again
[06:14] <unop> unity,  unless you change services at each runlevel - processing runlevel 2 is enough - ls -l /etc/rc2.d/S*
[06:14] <thcmonkey> and i have a feeling ubuntu is gonna catch on ALL too quickly
[06:15] <kenthomson> adaptr, so you mean to say that beryl to "force rendering to nvidia" is equal to me using the nvidia backend, and that means that that is equal to me running it directly on nvidia without AIGLX and that there is no performace gain if i use AIGLX OR nvidia-backend
[06:15] <adaptr> kenthomson: my comment is in no way trelated to your knowledge or lack of it, but to the ease with which you dismiss the answers simply because you lack the knowledge to understand them...
[06:15] <mindstate> thcmonkey: all of my friends are using ubuntu now :)
[06:15] <unity> unop: and to get the list of all available scripts that i can add, i would ls /etc/init.d, right?
[06:15] <thcmonkey> mindstate, are all your friends nerds? :P
[06:15] <adaptr> kenthomson: you are using words that make little sense... I can only explain how it works, not how you want to hear it
[06:15] <mindstate> thcmonkey: we prefer geek :)
[06:15] <unop> unity,  indeed
[06:15] <thcmonkey> i hope so
[06:16] <kenthomson> adaptr, please forgive me, you see, when a user who's been doing windows for years, is overwhelemed by so many new concepts, he really needs some patience
[06:16] <will_> Nobody know of a file recovery tool that I can run in Linux?
[06:16] <kenthomson> adaptr, go ahead you have my full attention
[06:16] <unop> unity,  if you are enabling and disabling services manually -- the right way to go is update-rc.d
[06:16] <will_> Knows.*
[06:16] <adaptr> kenthomson: your graphical system runs on xorg, which is an X server - a grpahical; rendering thingy that allows you to see windows on screen
[06:16] <Frogzoo> my desktop has disappeared - ie - no icons showing on the desktop...
[06:16] <thcmonkey> mindstate i mean i don't want it to go too mainstream
[06:16] <kenthomson> adaptr, and if you would like to site any number of web sources thats all the more better (whoch doesn't again mean i don't trust you :-) )
[06:16] <adaptr> kenthomson: this in and of itself has no knowledge of opengl, which is a framework to do 3d graphical representation
[06:16] <thcmonkey> as a windows alternative
[06:16] <kenthomson> adaptr, X=GUI (whoch doesn't know 3d)
[06:17] <kenthomson> adaptr, go on
[06:17] <adaptr> kenthomson: beryl *needs* opengl functionality to work.. as it uses the opengl libraries extensively do dazzle you with
[06:17] <unity> unop: ok, thx, and do you know where to get information about what each script is? for instance, i'm not sure what apport is
[06:17] <mindstate> thcmonkey: it probably wont, people love windows too much lol
[06:17] <thcmonkey> thank god
[06:17] <adaptr> kenthomson: no, that's the whole point, X is not a GUI, it is X
[06:17] <thcmonkey> it's been real, i'll be back soon
[06:18] <adaptr> kenthomson: so to use beryl, you need opengl support *in your X server* - for which you need aiglx (built-in and fast) or Xgl (not, and slow)
[06:18] <unop> unity,  if the startup script is written right -- it should have a comment describing it's purpose at the top of the script  -- you could do    head -n 15 /etc/init.d/apport
[06:18] <djaimes> #gnome
[06:18] <unity> unop: nevermind, i'll look in packages.ubuntu.com maybe
[06:18] <kenthomson> adaptr, ok x=gui-3D; beryl=3d; so x!=beryl; x+something=3d, so that something needs to be AIGLX or direct-nvidia or GLX? Or am i jumping out of the boat?
[06:18] <compengi> can someones tell me how can i send a file from my pc through internet to a windows user under a specific network ip?
[06:18] <seamus7> What terminal command is used to reconfigure X?
[06:18] <unity> unop: oh, didn't know the scripts have descriptions, thanks
[06:18] <adaptr> kenthomson: the only point where nvidia comes in is in the fact that you *can* use nvidia's hardware-accelerated opengl libvraries instead of the software MESA libs
[06:19] <tprice> '/msg kitche
[06:19] <adaptr> kenthomson: direct-nvidia ? what is that ?
[06:19] <Hippu> seamus7: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:19] <kenthomson> adaptr, so there is nothing like beryl directly on nvidia's API (backend) instead of using AIGLX? Are you 100% sure?
[06:19] <unop> unity,  well, they ought to -- to make the life of administrators easy -- but thats really down to the author of the script
[06:19] <adaptr> kenthomson: whatever, it still needs opengl, and the only way you're going to get that is with opengl libraries
[06:19] <mindstate> seamus7: dont forget sudo
[06:20] <kitche> tprice: yes?
[06:20] <marshcast> anyone know anything about "device descriptor read/64, error -110" ???
[06:20] <adaptr> kenthomson: again, you're missing the point - beryl has nothing to do with nvidia, and nvidia can not support anything like beryl *directly* - it supports opengl through the nvidia hardware opengl libraries,
[06:20] <adaptr> you could forget about beryl and you'd still need everything I mentioned above - opengl and X server opengl support
[06:20] <djaimes> hi dears guys!
[06:20] <kenthomson> adaptr, alright in my limited knowledge i understand your point
[06:21] <seamus7> Hippu: is that the one that allows me to reconfigure my video settings .... i thought the command you gave just deals with the xorg file?
[06:21] <emet> I want beryl to work ><
[06:21] <tprice> kitche: i setup my bios to boot from cdrom and it still doesn't work
[06:21] <adaptr> kenthomson: I doubt it - you're still nagging about nvidia *directly* doing stuff, which it does not and can not
[06:21] <kenthomson> adaptr, the reason for all my confusion is this "on beryl-project.org under distors and suse they offer a how to for installation and expalin that nvidia has aiglx as does xorg 7.1 but if you enable force nvidia you will be using the nvidia aiglx"
[06:22] <engi> HI
[06:22] <adaptr> kenthomson: okay, in which case you'd still be using aiglx ? your spontaneously re-0nmaing of well-defined terminology causes some confusion here
[06:23] <adaptr> kenthomson: AIGLX == "the X server OpenGL extensions" - it is completely irrelevant where these come from
[06:23] <adaptr> kenthomson: if nvidia decides to build supoprt for them into its binary drivers, so much the better
[06:23] <kenthomson> adaptr, thanks a lot, i could kiss you, although not over TCP/IP as i may be electrocuted; Is there any web source or something else that you would like to say?
[06:23] <adaptr> wikipedia, always
[06:23] <kenthomson> adaptr, right!
[06:23] <marshcast> nobosy know if there's a way to fix a usb-device coming up with "device descriptor read/64, error -110"
[06:24] <kitche> tprice: hmm so your cdrom is above your hard drive in the bios correct
[06:24] <cchance> Where is the cgi-bin located for the ubuntu versionn af apache 2
[06:24] <adaptr> cchance: /usr/share
[06:24] <adaptr> or /usr/lib, or something :)
[06:25] <adaptr> there is no "ubuntu version" of apache
[06:25] <chable> finally
[06:25] <adaptr> good
[06:25] <compengi> does anyone knows how can i send a file from my pc through internet to a windows user under a specific network ip?
[06:25] <djaimes> i have a trouble with my wireless card (enugi-w), somebody help me?
[06:25] <cchance> usr?lib thatnks
[06:25] <adaptr> compengi: e-mail ?
[06:25] <compengi> adaptr, lol
[06:25] <chable> how do i install kernel-headers /
[06:25] <chable> !kernel-headers
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel-headers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <tprice> kitche: yes. it is my primary drive
[06:26] <kenthomson> adaptr, what i was thinking is that; "nvidia hardware opengl libraries" vs "open gl libraries". There is no such thing as that, as opengl is opengl wherever it comes from , right? But what if nvidia customised it a little bit to suit their cards, will i get a performace gain? Or am i again missing something?
[06:26] <adaptr> compengi: the normal way to do this is to tel lhim to *retrieve* a file *from* your machine
[06:26] <LjL> !linux-headers-generic | chable
[06:26] <ubotu> chable: linux-headers-generic: Generic Linux kernel headers. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.11 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:26] <chable> so which version shoul i use ?
[06:26] <chable> im on /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
[06:26] <compengi> adaptr, that's not my aim, i want to send the file like when you use scp but to a windows machine
[06:26] <chable> ooops
[06:26] <transgress> is there a way in ubuntu to see what type of harddrive i have?
[06:26] <chable> im on 2.6.17-11-generic
[06:26] <adaptr> kenthomson: there are no "opengl libraries" as such - they always have to be written by somebody
[06:27] <Cyrus25801> how do i uninstall a program and all of it's components.
[06:27] <adaptr> compengi: then run ssh on the windows machine
[06:27] <compengi> and how to do this?
[06:27] <compengi> adaptr, how to do this
[06:27] <adaptr> kenthomson: so nvidia's binary opengl librariers are - obviously - written by nvidia, and the only plausible alternative is MESA which is fully software, ergo unbearably slowwwww
[06:27] <adaptr> compengi: google for ssh on windows ?
[06:28] <chable> ok
[06:28] <adaptr> kenthomson: the bottom line is: if you use opengl software and have an nvidia card, you use the nvidia opengl libraries
[06:28] <chable> anyone installed Speedtouch 330 usb modem for adsl ?
[06:28] <adaptr> kenthomson: just as you use the nvidia binary X driver, and the nvidia kernel display driver
[06:28] <chable> i really need to manage this thing
[06:29] <adaptr> chable: still not able to tell the difference between "linux-headers" (what you need) and "kernel-headers" (which don't exist) ?
[06:29] <transgress> nm i found it
[06:29] <chable> adaptr, im newbie
[06:29] <adaptr> chable: no reason not to read properly :)
[06:30] <chable> someone in this channle told me to install kernel-headers
[06:30] <adaptr> chable: you've been told, repeatedly, and you're apparently not trying that
[06:30] <compengi> adaptr, and if i want to send it to a specific ip in the network can it be done also?
[06:30] <chable> i dforgot :(
[06:30] <chable> and my english is bad also
[06:30] <adaptr> compengi: who cares what the IP is ? of course you need to know where to send it
[06:30] <adaptr> chable: apt-cache search linux-headers
[06:31] <kenthomson> adaptr, thanks that helped a lot!
[06:31] <chable> i did that already adaptr
[06:31] <adaptr> kenthomson: I knew it would.. eventually
[06:31] <adaptr> chable: and ?
[06:31] <chable> linux-headers are the latest version
[06:31] <Cyrus25801> how do i un-install a program and all of it's components.
[06:31] <adaptr> okay, and then ?>
[06:31] <chable> now i need to install speedtouch adsl modem
[06:31] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: aptitude purge <package>
[06:31] <chable> and i dont know how
[06:31] <Bnirkow> hello
[06:31] <chable> and this machine is an old p3
[06:31] <adaptr> chable: is there support in the kernel for it ?
[06:31] <ucordes> !cdrecord
[06:31] <ubotu> cdrecord: command line CD writing tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:2.01+01a03-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 567 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[06:31] <chable> how do i found that ?
[06:31] <chable> find*
[06:32] <Bnirkow> how to uninstall kde?? (all files)
[06:32] <defrysk> Bnirkow, sudo apt-get remove kde kdm
[06:32] <defrysk> Bnirkow, sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:32] <cchance> where is the "Server Log" That apache keeps talking about located
[06:32] <Bnirkow> defyrsk: thanks
[06:32] <chable> adaptr, i dont know how to tell if there is support for it
[06:33] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: <package> being like mozilla? will that possibly uninstall packages that are linked to other programs
[06:33] <mando> d
[06:33] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: yes.. so be careful
[06:34] <kenthomson> adaptr> kenthomson: the bottom line is: if you use opengl software and have an nvidia card, you use the nvidia opengl libraries; This means that i use nvidia-backend? Or is there no GODDAMN thing like nvidia backend?
[06:34] <adaptr> chable: then why mess with kernel headers in the first place ?
[06:34] <chable> coz someone in here told me so
[06:34] <Bnirkow> defrysk: i have error message: "invalid operation autoremove"
[06:34] <chable> :(
[06:34] <defrysk> Bnirkow, what version ?
[06:34] <mando> Hi, I have a problem with my usb microphone, when i plug it in , nothin appears but it is in my lsusb ... I can't use it though ... Need help !
[06:34] <unity> hmm...how important is it that dbus is running?
[06:34] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: ok so how do i then uninstall with out disturbing other programs (there should be a command i can use?)
[06:34] <defrysk> Bnirkow, on daper ?
[06:34] <chable> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 06b9:4061 Alcatel Telecom SpeedTouch ISDN or ADSL Modem
[06:34] <adaptr> kenthomson: the name "back-end" is misplaced, as I already indicated earlier - you should not use words that are not present in the product's documentation itself
[06:34] <defrysk> dapper
[06:34] <chable> i see this
[06:34] <Bnirkow> defrysk: yes
[06:35] <chable> this means its supported ?
[06:35] <cchance> adaptr, where is the "Server Log" That apache keeps talking about located
[06:35] <jonah1980_2> hi my dad seems to be having a problem with gnucash on his edgy box. he's a total beginner and took me three hours just guiding him through adding a software repository to try install it from synaptic. it won't install from automatix2, and the add/remove gnu cash wont work either. he says it's complaining about g-wrap or something. is this an edgy program as usually the applications in add/remove "just work" which is what my dad needs!
[06:35] <adaptr> kenthomson: if you use a word like "backend" , which features nowhere in the nvidia docs, you should at least know exactly what you are talking about
[06:35] <adaptr> kenthomson: if you are using the nvidia opengl libs, you are using at least THREE nvidia "backends" on your system
[06:36] <chris> which channel discuses fiesty?
[06:36] <adaptr> kenthomson: for each of which , the name "backend" is meaningless, and possibly confusing
[06:36] <kenthomson> adaptr, ok, some things that i found out " the nvidia drivers contain code that renders the AIGLX in the X server unused"; " the default is beryl + nvidia. No AIGLX, no Xgl(for 9xxx series)";
[06:36] <KarlsBerg> hello
[06:36] <KarlsBerg> its possible enable composite on dapper with Fglrx ati drivers?
[06:36] <yellowdart> i'm having a problem with twinview.. is there any way that I can make sure that dialogs (or any window for that matter) open within the bounds of the screen?
[06:37] <adaptr> kenthomson: I have no idea what you mean, but you seem to want to be right badly enough for me to say: sure, you're right - although I have no idea about what, or why it matters
[06:37] <chable> adaptr, do i need to install pppoe ?
[06:37] <adaptr> chable: if your ISP requires you to, yes
[06:37] <kenthomson> adaptr, So could you help me phrase a sentence for me? I use beryl on <something1> which runs on..<something>.....?
[06:37] <chable> yes it does
[06:37] <adaptr> kenthomson: again: why ?
[06:37] <defrysk> Bnirkow, I dont use dapper, best way to remove it from dapper is to deselect installed qt packages with synaptic, it will uninstall all kde apps
[06:37] <cchance> 4.254.158.254/cgi-bin/setup.cgi   How do i over come
[06:37] <cchance> http://4.254.158.254/cgi-bin/setup.cgi
[06:38] <adaptr> internal server error
[06:38] <kenthomson> adaptr, becuase i want to know what i run in as technical and factually terms as a person of your knowledge can tell me
[06:38] <Bnirkow> defrysk: i will try by synaptic
[06:38] <kenthomson> adaptr, forgot to put "correct" in there
[06:38] <jonah1980_2> chris, #ubuntu+1
[06:38] <cchance> adaptr, their all 777 so i dont know what its griping about
[06:38] <adaptr> kenthomson: lsmod | grep nvidia, grep nvidia /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and glxinfo | grep direct
[06:39] <kenthomson> adaptr, it would read "...factually *correct*...
[06:39] <cbx33> ping Seveas
[06:39] <adaptr> cchance: in case of any errors, read the error_log
[06:39] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: ok so how do i then uninstall with out disturbing other programs (there should be a command i can use?)
[06:39] <cchance> adapter, thats what im looking for but cant find
[06:39] <chable> adaptr, do you know what else do i need to get this pppoe connection working ?
[06:39] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: synaptic, but aptitude purge should be safe enough
[06:39] <kenthomson> adaptr, hoa! i am not into all those stuff to understand and digest all that scrolling piece of matrix-like screensaver-info, may i ask for a plain english phrase to desribe my system running beryl to the best of your knowledge?
[06:40] <mando> I need to use my microphone (usb , logitech) , it appears in lsusb and also, it doesn't show up on my desktop when i plug it in and I doen't work ... I really need some help!
[06:40] <adaptr> chable: no, sorry - I never use pppoe
[06:40] <Cugel> Cyrus: apt-get remove package.
[06:40] <chable> :(
[06:40] <KarlsBerg> its possible enable composite on dapper with Fglrx ati drivers?
[06:40] <Seveas> cbx33, ?
[06:40] <jonah1980_2> hello can anyone help with gnucash, my dad is 70 and i can't really help him easily without going to his house but he lives abroad - he can do add/remove and real basics but the gwrap thing doesn't make sense. it's just a standard ubuntu 386 edgy box, why would there be a dependency prob in add/remove?
[06:40] <cbx33> gpgkey option
[06:40] <cbx33> is it looking for the fingerprint?
[06:40] <ucordes> !nvidia
[06:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:40] <adaptr> kenthomson: you're asking for PR - which I require money for; this is a technical channel first and foremost
[06:40] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: thanx
[06:40] <Seveas> cbx33, last 8 hex digits
[06:40] <Seveas> like A6F4EE65
[06:41] <cchance> jonah1980_2, bad install maby
[06:41] <yrlnry> Every time I upgrade my kernel, my ethernet card stops wworking.  Then I have to recompile and reinstall the driver for it.  How can i arrange that this happens automatically?
[06:41] <mando> or go with envy ... just tried it ... it works fine :D NVIDIA
[06:41] <adaptr> yrlnry: if the driver is not in the kernel, you can't
[06:41] <poningru> mando: just configure it in the volume control
[06:41] <kenthomson> adaptr, never mind, thanks a lot its been a pleasure talking to you. And please ignore my incompetence at such things, i am only learning. Any website that may help me along my path to linux that you would like to suggest?
[06:41] <poningru> if it shows up in lsusb its working just fine
[06:41] <pottie> who here has been able to get ventrilo + wine working perfectly ?
[06:42] <yrlnry> adaptr: I can't tell the upgrade system to run a shell script whenever it installs a new kernel?
[06:42] <adaptr> kenthomson: thousands, linuxnewbies, linuxquestions, linuxforums, linuxlinks... the list goes on
[06:42] <cbx33> thanks Seveas
[06:42] <mando> ponigru: i configured it ... but no success
[06:42] <adaptr> yrlnry: not without cahnging the kernel packages....
[06:42] <yrlnry> okay, thanks.
[06:42] <Frogzoo> !docs | kenthomson
[06:42] <ubotu> kenthomson: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[06:42] <yrlnry> Maybe I'll write an rc script to install it at boot time.
[06:42] <kenthomson> Frogzoo, right!
[06:43] <kenthomson> Frogzoo, adaptr last sentence before my eyelids fall shut "thanks a lot"
[06:43] <cbx33> Seveas, do you have a ppc and an i386 and an amd64?
[06:43] <chable> i have another problem with the other machine
[06:43] <adaptr> yrlnry: this may prove problematic if you need a new version of the driver for a new kernel.. you'd have to download it first :)
[06:43] <mando> fogzoo, is there a possibility to give you a output or so, that you can take a look at it :S
[06:43] <chable> i cant install ANY linux
[06:43] <Seveas> cbx33, unfortunately not
[06:43] <chable> after i boot , the instalation fails
[06:43] <yrlnry> adaptr: I know.  I had a lot of trouble the first time through.
[06:43] <unop> mando,  what kind of output?
[06:43] <Seveas> but i once had an amd64 buildd available :)
[06:43] <cbx33> Seveas, what's that?
[06:43] <chable> because there seems to be no cd/dvd-rom
[06:43] <cbx33> so do you only supply i386?
[06:43] <Seveas> cbx33, at the moment that's true
[06:43] <kenthomson> adaptr, that sentence of yours really hurt me!
[06:44] <cbx33> ok cool
[06:44] <cbx33> thanks by the way
[06:44] <mando> unop: no idea ... need to configure my mic ... it shows up in lsusb , but it wont work ... what am i doing wrong ?
[06:44] <Seveas> but if I'm lucky amd64 will be back soon
[06:44] <cbx33> I'm just about to try building a repo
[06:44] <adaptr> why ? you do babble - a lot, for somebody still having 5+ years of Linux experience ahead of him
[06:44] <adaptr> megh - gone
[06:44] <cbx33> Seveas, is the synchronising mirrors the uploading it to another locatoin?
[06:44] <pcollaog> helo!
[06:45] <Seveas> cbx33, that doesn't parse :)
[06:45] <unop> mando,  when you say "it wont work" what do you mean? how are you testing it?
[06:45] <cbx33> you know what I ean
[06:45] <cbx33> mean
[06:45] <Seveas> cbx33, not really, sorry
[06:45] <adaptr> cbx33: it's exactly what it says - synchronising... synchronisation is a 2-way process
[06:45] <Cyrus25801> silly question maybe. but is there like a free linux course out there one can do? (one that is not going through all the ubuntu documentation ha ha)
[06:45] <Seveas> cbx33, ah wait, now I get it
[06:45] <Seveas> yes, synchronizing means uploading
[06:45] <cbx33> cool thanks
[06:45] <adaptr> bad seveas :)
[06:46] <yellowdart> does anyone know how to configure nvidia twinview in gnome so that my dialogs will always open on-screen? (using 6600gt..and twinview is working other than this issue)
[06:46] <cbx33> can i specify users in the ssh line?
[06:46] <cbx33> and if so is that like .
[06:46] <unop> Cyrus25801,  yes, it's called experience :) i.e. working with it
[06:46] <Seveas> cbx33, yes
[06:46] <adaptr> cbx33: ssh user@host,yes
[06:46] <mando> unop, i tried it with the audio recorder from ubuntu and skype
[06:46] <cbx33> user@host:/path/to
[06:46] <cbx33> cool thanks
[06:46] <pcollaog> somebody has had problems with linux kernel series 2.6.20 to boot?
[06:46] <Justy> Hello all !
[06:47] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: you'll be happy to know that a good Linux course does not require you to go through "all the ubuntu documentation"
[06:47] <unity> how can i ask my server to always grab a particular ip address instead of asking for one?
[06:47] <cchance> Where is the error log for apache
[06:47] <adaptr> Cyrus25801:  it'll be roughly 47 times as large as that
[06:47] <TLE> yellowdart: Is it something like this you mean http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=242502
[06:47] <adaptr> meh - another "shortcut kiddie"
[06:47] <Seveas> cchance, /var/log/apache/
[06:47] <seamus7> Anyone know about this Xorg.0.log error: (EE) Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm
[06:47] <bulmer> unity how many nic interface your server have?
[06:47] <Cyrus25801> unop: yes i thought i was going to get an answer like that.
[06:47] <unity> bulmer: only 1. eth0
[06:48] <Gunirus> seamus7: not really
[06:48] <unop> mando,  this one should help http://www.mozmarks.com/james/node/5
[06:48] <adaptr> seamus7: apparently, it's not loading the keymap - there'll be syntax or file location errors in it
[06:48] <Gunirus> i had that problem too
[06:48] <bulmer> unity: modify your /etc/network/interface and assign dhcp to your nic
[06:48] <bluejean> Cyrus25801: there's this... http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/moodle/
[06:48] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: i was just wanting something structured. do you know of something
[06:48] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: you mean: you knew *that would be the answer*
[06:48] <clearze2>  unity: no, assign it a static ip
[06:48] <ElbridgeGerry> I started up Ubuntu...and I'm zoomed in for some reason...the screen follows the mouse. What's going on?
[06:48] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: yes
[06:48] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: read the rute guide, that is generally considered a very good starting point
[06:48] <unop> Cyrus25801,  well, what exactly are you wanting to learn?
[06:48] <adaptr> !rute
[06:48] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[06:48] <seamus7> adaptr: it's the last entry in my Xorg.0.log file and I can't find info on this in the forums or the web
[06:49] <unity> clearze2: thanks
[06:49] <Cyrus25801> bluejean: thanx man
[06:49] <adaptr> !xmodmap | seamus7
[06:49] <ubotu> seamus7: xmodmap: X input map modification. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 76 kB
[06:49] <CheyenneD> anyone know how to have a rdp server on ubuntu
[06:49] <jvai> cyrus, hold up.. i have a link for a free class.. hold up..
[06:49] <jvai> cyrus25801 - hava looksee, ima take this also - http://linuxbasics.org/press/2007-02-15-en
[06:49] <ElbridgeGerry> Why am I zoomed in?
[06:49] <bulmer> unity sorry i mis-read your writing
[06:49] <jvai> cyrus.. did u look @ the link i just gave u?
[06:49] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: where do i get that
[06:49] <spyke01> does anyone know how to convert a wma file to mp3 without using SoundConverter?
[06:49] <unity> bulmer: no problem.
[06:49] <unity> bulmer: thanks anyway
[06:49] <jvai> cyrus25801 - hava looksee, ima take this also - http://linuxbasics.org/press/2007-02-15-en
[06:49] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: you could try clicking on the link for it
[06:49] <Cyrus25801> unop: well a little bit of everything( i want to be a guru)
[06:50] <bulmer> unity but thats where it goes anyways
[06:50] <clearze2> unity: yeah, it should start with
[06:50] <clearze2> inet eth0 static
[06:50] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: do you have 8 years' of free time ?
[06:50] <duaneb> hello?
[06:50] <duaneb> I have a problem with apache2 and netatalk
[06:50] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: because that would probably get you halfway there
[06:50] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: sorry didn't see it, thanx
[06:50] <seamus7> adaptr: how would you suggest I might go about addressing that error given the output of ubotu?
[06:50] <duaneb> for apache2: "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName"
[06:50] <litheum> hmm, just did aptitude upgrade the other night.... and now when i try to start my machine i see tons of "modprobe: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"!
[06:50] <yellowdart> TLE, kind-of.. but my issue is really with things like if i have firefox open and use the bookmark toolbar, and use the "extended" toolbar button to show the list that doesn't fit on-screen, then it opens off-screen so i cant read them
[06:50] <duaneb> that didn't do anything
[06:50] <duaneb> but with netatalkd
[06:51] <duaneb> netatalk*
[06:51] <adaptr> seamus7: look in the file, of course - did you edit it, or add it ? if not, how did it suddenly become an issue ?
[06:51] <unity> clearze2: i found an example online http://david.decotigny.free.fr/libre/ibook2-debian/etc/network/interfaces
[06:51] <Cyrus25801> jvai: thanx man
[06:51] <yellowdart> TLE, i'll look into that patch though.. thanks
[06:51] <duaneb> with netatalk, it says "hostname: Unknown host"
[06:51] <duaneb> what's wrong?
[06:51] <jvai> ok.. np @ cyrus
[06:51] <unop> Cyrus25801,  define "guru" (even though i think it's a l337 term and you're heading out into the world of linux pointlessly trying to be one)
[06:51] <fevel> can someone help me with an equivalent project to macromedia flash
[06:51] <adaptr> litheum: sounds like you have a new kernel but no modules - you didn't by any chance install a *specific* kernels' module package, did you ?
[06:51] <bobesponja> hey all
[06:51] <TLE> yellowdart: you're welcome, just make sure your problem fits the description
[06:51] <eternal_p> g
[06:51] <fevel> that runs well in edgy
[06:51] <adaptr> litheum: bad diea - choose the same META_packaghe for both kernel and modules
[06:52] <TLE> yellowdart: otherwise there's no reason to try it
[06:52] <bobesponja>  I have a server on 212.34.228.48/28 and I would like it to make 192.168.1.1 invisible to  that server, 192.168.1.1 is a router connected to that server
[06:52] <bobesponja>  is "iptables -t filter -s 212.34.228.48/28 -d 192.168.1.1 -j DENY" correct?
[06:52] <seamus7> adaptr: i've not looked in the file ... it's been in that log file for a while ... I've been going through Xorg.0.log and that was the last error ... ??
[06:52] <adaptr> seamus7: so how do you know that's what causes your problems ? if any...
[06:52] <litheum> adaptr: i didn't do anything crazy that i remember.... just did 'aptitude upgrade' and rebooted when prompted... now my machine won't start! :(
[06:52] <doggystyl0r> hi @ trAin
[06:52] <Cyrus25801> unop: knowing linux inside out (or at lease trying)
[06:52] <creaslob> list
[06:52] <trAin> hi @ doggystyl0r
[06:52] <adaptr> litheum: then investigate what you have installed
[06:52] <doggystyl0r> /:=|
[06:53] <eternal_p> Hi all..I am really stuck and hoping someone can help me... IJust upgraded my Kernel to .20, everything is perfect, except my ipw3945 is not there, I try and compile it and I get a msesage that I am not using my kernel's default ieee80211 subsystem, even if I hit ignore, it cannot find the sources...any help would be appreciated!!
[06:53] <litheum> adaptr: how shall i do that if i cannot boot the machine?
[06:53] <unop> Cyrus25801,  it's an impossible task -- it's a constantly evolving technology with things getting obsoleted every day
[06:53] <novice> cd /home/amar/Desktop/InneX/File Types.......... is there any wrong with this command
[06:53] <novice> ??
[06:53] <darkmatter7> is anyone here familiar with rosegarden?
[06:53] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: you'd be well-advised to get a general feel for it and then specialise... nobody can know everything inside-out
[06:53] <litheum> adaptr: if i boot from some recovery CD will i somehow be able to examine the fubar package repository?
[06:53] <adaptr> litheum: boot in rescue mode, or with a livecd
[06:53] <seamus7> adaptr: no no i never said it was causing problems ... i just wanted to know why i was getting the error message ... curiosity is abundant.. that's the linux way, yes?
[06:53] <clearze2> unity: just so you know you you shouldn't alias the interface (they are assigning multiple ips for a single card) unless you know what you are doing.
[06:53] <adaptr> litheum: if you manage to chroot into it, yes
[06:53] <Cyrus25801> unop: well thats why i just want to try
[06:53] <litheum> adaptr: heh...
[06:53] <Sisodiya> how can i attach multiple (.JPG) photo though email...I m able to send only one photo...please help me...
[06:54] <creaslob> hiya
[06:54] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: i follow. thanx for all the help
[06:54] <darkmatter7> are any of you familiar with rosegarden?
[06:54] <ddrag> x
[06:54] <Cyrus25801> unop: thanx for the help
[06:54] <novice> cd /home/amar/Desktop/InneX/File Types.......... is there any wrong with this command??
[06:54] <Sisodiya> how can i attach multiple (.JPG) photo though email...I m able to send only one photo...please help me...
[06:54] <darkmatter7> as long as that is a dir...
[06:54] <darkmatter7> then no
[06:54] <litheum> adaptr: so any idea what i should look for? what i should do to fix it if i do manage to boot in rescue mode? how i can avoid this insanity in the future?
[06:55] <seamus7> adaptr: the funny thing is that that file .../var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm.. is empty.
[06:55] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: for example, my pet fields are hardware, kernel, apache, samba, and general networking.. but tha's not to say that I know everything about them, or nothing outside of them
[06:55] <creaslob> anyone can hlp me with ATI proprietary Driver? Got problems with AGPgart, dunno how to solve.
[06:55] <unop> bobesponja,  i think you have it the wrong way around .. the desintation is 212.34.228.48/28 right, so the source shouold be 192.168.1.1
[06:55] <darkmatter7> creas
[06:55] <dyrne> i hate it when people ask a question and then leave
[06:55] <darkmatter7> easiest thing to do with ati, is just forget about it
[06:55] <creaslob> yes?
[06:55] <posingaspopular> 192.168.1.1 is always home
[06:55] <Sisodiya> how can i attach multiple (.JPG) photo though email...I m able to send only one photo...please help me...
[06:55] <creaslob> LOL
[06:55] <darkmatter7> edgy has built in drivers
[06:55] <jendrula> elo all wie ktos moze czemu tibia scina sie jak cholera pod ubuntu??
[06:55] <darkmatter7> that have 3d and direct rendering support
[06:55] <Sisodiya> how can i attach multiple (.JPG) photo though email...I m able to send only one photo...please help me...
[06:55] <duaneb> thanks for the help
[06:55] <adaptr> litheum: you need to check which kernel and module *meta*-packages you have installed.. and make sure they are both the same ones
[06:55] <creaslob> thats what i though loads of times
[06:55] <duaneb> really
[06:56] <Meltdown79> Guys, i have never compiled a program before, i downloaded a tar.bz2 file, unpacked it, did ./configure and then make... is that all? =) Lol... im a damn n00b
[06:56] <unop> posingaspopular,  always??
[06:56] <Meltdown79> cry
[06:56] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: i will be happy with a little of eveything and allot of somethinf
[06:56] <posingaspopular> yea
[06:56] <darkmatter7> welll...
[06:56] <pottie> Hello, ive been having some internet speed issues any ideas what it could be
[06:56] <Sisodiya> how can i attach multiple (.JPG) photo though email...I m able to send only one photo...please help me...
[06:56] <adaptr> litheum: come to that, you may also simply have a fscked-up initrd (which holds the modules on boot)
[06:56] <unop> posingaspopular,  explain
[06:56] <darkmatter7> you can try fglrx
[06:56] <darkmatter7> works easy enough
[06:56] <Sisodiya> please help me....
[06:56] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: same here :)
[06:56] <jendrula> omg all is eng bye :/
[06:56] <unop> Sisodiya,  zip it up with tar
[06:56] <litheum> adaptr: can you imagine any reason this wouldn't have been taken care of automatically when i did aptitude upgrade?
[06:56] <darkmatter7> im no expert though, sorry
[06:56] <davide> anybody knows hot to set up a wifi connection using WPA?
[06:56] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: cool
[06:57] <adaptr> litewell, the initrd is built upon upgrade, not copied blindly.. and yes, this can therefore go wrong
[06:57] <creaslob> thx anyway
[06:57] <unop> Sisodiya,  err, "them" rather -- tar cvf file1.jpg file2.jpg .. etc
[06:57] <adaptr> litheum: sorry, see ^^^
[06:57] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: i want to know about all the diffrent distros. and not be stuck on 1
[06:57] <duaneb> ok, here's the problem
[06:57] <duaneb> anyone wanna help?
[06:57] <duaneb> no?
[06:57] <duaneb> great
[06:57] <unop> Meltdown79,  the best way to be sure is to read the README and INSTALL within the tarball
[06:57] <Sisodiya> UNOP : I sending  photo to that person who does not have linux....can he extact those photo ther through Win Zip or Win RAR
[06:58] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: well, then I'd advise you to install vmware and take a look at 5 or 6 at least, see which ones you like
[06:58] <dyrne> Meltdown79: thats about it. i usually have /home/myusername/local directory so i do ./configure --prefix=/home/username/local;make;make install just to test it before actually installing to /usr/local/ or wherever
[06:58] <GrimSleeper> Still asking me for admin pass and my user pass is not working for it.
[06:58] <threeseas> anyone know anything about Jack (audio connection kit)?
[06:58] <posingaspopular> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/192.168.1.1
[06:58] <unop> Sisodiya,  indeed, yes
[06:58] <litheum> adaptr: ok. seems like a pretty serious problem for a routine security upgrade to result in an unbootable system :)
[06:58] <posingaspopular> i would explain better but im sick
[06:58] <Meltdown79> dyrne, thanx man
[06:58] <seamus7> This is odd.. /var/lib/xkb is an empty directory ... yet the last entry in my Xorg.0.log file is (EE) Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm ... anyone familiar with keymapping and the context of this error?
[06:58] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: be aware that for professional use, people tend to stick close to RHEL (centos), debian/Ubuntu, or slackware, as these tend to be stable-est
[06:58] <roostishaw> anyone know how i can get my trackpad to work well on my macbook?
[06:58] <yellowdart> TLE, well.. it doesnt seem to pertain to my situation.. thanks anyhow. I just noticed that the problem only exists if I have firefox open on my second monitor
[06:58] <unop> posingaspopular,  eh? i think you just dont want to :)
[06:59] <spyke01> does anyone know how to convert a wma file to mp3?
[06:59] <Meltdown79> dyrne, just did make on wine, and it takes FOREVER... is does "make" take a long time? =) lol
[06:59] <posingaspopular> i wish that was the case. then i could just go back to sleep
[06:59] <cremedasperge> lille
[06:59] <unop> spyke01,  googled already?
[06:59] <dyrne> spyke01: here is an example http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6427/
[06:59] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: cool idea, i have tried installing a few and ubuntu is at the top of the charts. I am a little bias though because Mark Shuttleworth started it and he is a south african and so am i
[06:59] <yellowdart> TLE, otherwise the dialogs open within the bounds of the first screen.. I'm assuming that this has to do with the fact that i'm not using xinerama and defining a second screen
[06:59] <ardchoille> Meltdown79: sudo apt-get install wine would have been quicker :P
[06:59] <traco> italiano==
[07:00] <traco> italiani????????
[07:00] <carlo79> join #italia
[07:00] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: shame on you then... but by al lmeans try to hit him for a job :)
[07:00] <Meltdown79> ardchoille but i heard that you shouldnt install wine using sudo?
[07:00] <Meltdown79> hmm
[07:00] <carlo79> ciao traco
[07:00] <traco> ho un problema con ubuntu
[07:00] <ardchoille> Meltdown79: How did you do make install?
[07:00] <sebrock> whenever after my machine goes into energy saving mode the next time screensaver will not start? Is this a known problem?
[07:00] <adaptr> !es | traco
[07:00] <ubotu> traco: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:00] <dyrne> Meltdown79: ubuntu usually has very new version of wine you shouldnt have to install. wine has an ubuntu repo too you can add to sources.list
[07:00] <dyrne> Meltdown79: er shouldnt have to compile i mean
[07:01] <adaptr> sebrock: energy saving != screensaver
[07:01] <emet> how do I get netbeans
[07:01] <emet> apt-get install netbeans no work
[07:01] <threeseas> spyke01: have you checked the respositories for audio conversion tools?
[07:01] <adaptr> although, funnily enough, screensaver == energy saving :)
[07:01] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: thats like saying: get hold of Paris hilton and see if you can have a date. Impossible task
[07:01] <Meltdown79> dyrne, i know.. hehe.. i got it in my sources.list and i did the apt-get install .. but wine just didnt work on my ubuntu 6.10... the newest version of wine at least.. so i thought i should try to compile it =)
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[07:01] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: not that i waould want a date with her
[07:01] <adaptr> Cyrus25801: not nearly as impossible, and whowould want to date a skanky 0' ?
[07:01] <emet> !netbeans
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netbeans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <emet> see
[07:02] <spyke01> threeseas: i tried using soundconverter but the files are unplayable when converted to oog, mp3, or even wav
[07:02] <Adlai> hi doggystyl0r I'd like to see you kicked
[07:02] <adaptr> !ban | doggystyl0r
[07:02] <ubotu> doggystyl0r: If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:02] <duaneb> http://rafb.net/p/jeAXcT51.html
[07:02] <fabrice_> Salut  tous
[07:02] <duaneb> that's my problem in a nutshell
[07:02] <alecjw> !fr | fabrice_
[07:02] <ubotu> fabrice_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:02] <traco> traco@ubuntu:~$ apt-get install firefox
[07:02] <traco> E: Impossibile aprire il file di lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:02] <traco> E: Impossibile creare un lock sulla directory di list
[07:02] <traco> traco@ubuntu:~$
[07:02] <traco> whu??
[07:02] <traco> why
[07:02] <dyrne> Meltdown79: you often need to run winecfg and set a few things up.  its a gui tool
[07:02] <sits> spyke01: I'd look into transcode, videolan and anything that can play a wma and output a wav
[07:02] <Adlai> traco, first of all, don't paste directly in the channel
[07:02] <Cyrus25801> adaptr: tell me about it
[07:02] <duaneb> anyone?
[07:02] <h1st0> Ugghh having some issues with update-manager.  It keeps saying that a restart is needed no matter how many times I restart.
[07:02] <duaneb> please?
[07:02] <alecjw> !paste | traco
[07:02] <defrysk> traco, use sudo
[07:02] <duaneb> http://rafb.net/p/jeAXcT51.html
[07:02] <ubotu> traco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:02] <fabrice_> ok,merci
[07:02] <h1st0> So looking for ideas how to fix it.
[07:03] <adaptr> !patience | duaneb
[07:03] <ubotu> duaneb: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:03] <traco> pass??
[07:03] <Meltdown79> dyrne, yepp, i did run winecfg but i got this error when trying to save changes http://pastebin.ca/362243
[07:03] <Cyrus25801> bye for now
[07:03] <Adlai> second, it means that another apt-get is running, and you have to wait for that to finish before you install anything else
[07:03] <sits> I'm struggling with Suspend to RAM with S3. My machine suspends but goes on to reboot after it attempts to resume
[07:03] <daniele_982> hello someone use Festival?
[07:03] <duaneb> adaptr: I've been asking for a bit now :p
[07:03] <adaptr> duaneb: it cannot find it locally, so you have removed the archive manually - get it again with apt-get -d (or -f, I alwasy forget which )
[07:03] <novice> can i use the command " sudo cp InneX /usr/share/pixmaps"
[07:03] <seamus7> Any Ubuntu wizards who know about keymaps here and xkb?
[07:03] <duaneb> don't meen to be an a$$
[07:03] <adaptr> duaneb: not where I can see
[07:03] <traco> traco@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:03] <traco> Password:
[07:03] <traco> pass of root??
[07:03] <h1st0> duaneb: how did you install netatalk?
[07:03] <novice> i mean to copy the folder InneX frm desktop to root dire
[07:03] <Meltdown79> dyrne, and when trying to install dreamweaver 8 i got this error http://pastebin.ca/362233
[07:03] <posingaspopular> traco yes
[07:03] <adaptr> !flood | traco
[07:03] <ubotu> traco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:04] <duaneb> I installed it from source
[07:04] <ablyss> Meltdown79: looks like you installed wine as root
[07:04] <duaneb> well, I made a package from source
[07:04] <threeseas> spyke01: windows media file... maybe find a windows box and convert it from there?
[07:04] <sits> traco: no it would be your password
[07:04] <Adlai> traco, no, sudo wants your user password
[07:04] <daniele_982> nothing use Festival??????
[07:04] <traco> i don'k know pass of root
[07:04] <duaneb> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=347019
[07:04] <adaptr> traco: thank God...
[07:04] <posingaspopular> uh did you try just hitting enter
[07:04] <Adlai> adaptr, lol
[07:04] <ardchoille> adaptr: hehe
[07:04] <h1st0> duaneb: if you made a deb from the source with checkinstall then just dpkg -r nameofdeb.deb
[07:04] <Meltdown79> ablyss, i just did sudo apt-get install wine  ... then i did  winecfg.... then i did ... wine Dreamweaver8-en.exe
[07:04] <duaneb> ok
[07:04] <duaneb> thanks
[07:04] <clearze2> adaptr: lol
[07:04] <traco> speack italian??
[07:04] <Hedegaard> how do I get my open programs to be listed in the top bar instead of the bar in the bottom of the screen ?
[07:04] <h1st0> duaneb: if you just installed from source then you would have to look for an uninstaller in the source folder.
[07:04] <carlo79> hi all
[07:04] <adaptr> !it | traco
[07:05] <ubotu> traco: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:05] <daniele_982> traco: i speack italian
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[07:05] <sits> Hedegaard: open programs?
[07:05] <Adlai> !ban | jutta
[07:05] <ubotu> jutta: If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:05] <dyrne> Meltdown79: well the first error can be fixed probably by doing: sudo chown -R ~/.wine   i dont know about the second
[07:05] <adaptr> oh ffs - can those not be regexp-ed ?
[07:05] <Hedegaard> sits,  yes as in eg. firefox, xchat and so on ...
[07:05] <dyrne> Meltdown79: er sudo chown -R Meltdown79 ~/.wine
[07:05] <SuperTeece> Hi all
[07:05] <sits> Heartsbane: you have two choices
[07:05] <Adlai> oh haha I thought that was french
[07:05] <Adlai> whoops
[07:05] <daniele_982> nothing use Festival ??? I've one problem to female voice
[07:06] <sits> unlock the the window list applet then drag its grippy to the top
[07:06] <kitsuneofdoom> I've gotten nethack-gnome off the repositories. It only lets me select character attributes, then crashes, although when I restart it always says there is a game in progress. The errors are:
[07:06] <sits> (right mouse button on the grippy shows you options)
[07:06] <kitsuneofdoom> Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) serial 27642 error_code 8 request_code 62 minor_code 0
[07:06] <kitsuneofdoom> Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) serial 27650 error_code 8 request_code 62 minor_code 0
[07:06] <Hedegaard> sits, great!! :) that easy ... thanks a bunch
[07:06] <SuperTeece> Anyone in the mood for a wifi question?
[07:06] <emet> how do I automatically purge orphaned packages ?
[07:06] <dyrne> SuperTeece: shoot
[07:06] <ernst> hello
[07:07] <sits> Hedegaard: or you can create a new window list by right mouse buttoning an empty bit of panel and going to add to panel...
[07:07] <Hedegaard> sits, is it possible to make the topbar 2 lines instead of one ?
[07:07] <Adlai> emet, sudo aptitude clean or sudo aptitude autoclean, I forget which
[07:07] <sits> Hedegaard: sort of
[07:07] <duaneb> can I download a .deb manually from the repository
[07:07] <ernst> does someone have a nvidia card and is using twinview with to screens and a TV?
[07:07] <Adlai> as far as purging, I don't know
[07:07] <sits> Hedegaard: you can set a panel's width and height
[07:07] <daniele_982> sits: you use Festival?
[07:07] <duaneb> nm
[07:07] <duaneb> found it
[07:07] <emet> Adlai, so that will get rid of libraries no application is using ?
[07:07] <sits> daniele_982: only very briefly
[07:08] <Hedegaard> sits, but not two lines ... with width and height it only makes the line bigger
[07:08] <Kajin> Does anybody have any experience when it comes to running the game Ragnarok Online on Wine SVN on Ubuntu Edgy? The AppDB gives it a Gold rating, but when I try to start the game I get a LoadMapTable error the moment it starts.
[07:08] <Trentster> hey all,
[07:08] <sits> Hedegaard: you need your panel to be bigger
[07:08] <daniele_982> sits: you say hio to abilitate the famale voice
[07:08] <Adlai> emet, it should
[07:08] <jharr> where do i report apic problems?
[07:08] <SuperTeece> Well I installed the driver for my Belkin F5D8010. I get driver installed, hardware present with ndiswrapper -l. I do not have an entry for the card in System --> Admin --> Networking. ALso the card's lights are not on. I also have the same problem with the onboard Broadcom.
[07:08] <sits> Hedegaard: but what in particular did you want on two lines?
[07:08] <adaptr> !bugs
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[07:08] <Meltdown79> the strange thing is, i have installed wine lots of times now.. and no matter what i do i get that "unprotecting memory to allow real-mode calls.NULL pointer accesses will no longer be caught.This program cannot be run in DOS mode". I just dont get it..hehe
[07:09] <sits> Hedegaard: everything in the top panel or just a particular thing?
[07:09] <gxr> anyone know of working sigmatel audio drivers???
[07:09] <Hedegaard> sits, the programs listed in two lines, i tend to have a lot of open programs and it's very difficult to overview with just one line
[07:09] <zt1> I had it working on my sys
[07:09] <duaneb> ok, so netatalk dies as it's being set up
[07:09] <duaneb> something about an unknown host
[07:09] <zt1> sigmatel HD audio drivers
[07:09] <ardchoille> Hedegaard: I don't think it's possible, yet, to have the window list in two lines rather than one.
[07:09] <sits> gxr: question is a bit vague. You are probably going to want to mention your exact sound chipset as listed by lscpi
[07:09] <Trentster> last update seems to have wacked, my kernel-generic and replaced it with kernel-386, how do I get -generic back and then recompile nvidia support for that kernel?
[07:09] <sits> Hedegaard: that's doable
[07:09] <duaneb> and dpkg/apt-get doesn't let me remove it and/or install any other pacakages
[07:10] <adaptr> Trentster: synaptic
[07:10] <gxr> zt1, where did you get them?
[07:10] <ardchoille> sits: How?
[07:10] <Trentster> adaptr, pls elaborate
[07:10] <zt1> I had to google
[07:10] <gxr> did you download from dell?
[07:10] <Meltdown79> hmm.. do i need to put the .exe files inside the drive_c dir to be able to install or what?
[07:10] <Meltdown79> hmm
[07:10] <adaptr> trenswhy ? start synaptic, install kernel-generic, reboot.. that's about it
[07:10] <adaptr> Trentster: why ? start synaptic, install kernel-generic, reboot.. that's about it
[07:10] <duaneb> what shoould I do?
[07:11] <Antonio_Carlos_M> hi
[07:11] <zt1> hold
[07:11] <adaptr> Meltdown79: that's a pretty good guess
[07:11] <Antonio_Carlos_M> me again
[07:11] <Antonio_Carlos_M> pllllllllllz
[07:11] <Trentster> adaptr, thanks,,,
[07:11] <Antonio_Carlos_M> help
[07:11] <doofy2> does blender not work with beryl/aiglx?
[07:11] <sits> Hedegaard: it will happen "by magic" if the panel itself is tall enough
[07:11] <posingaspopular> !ask Antonio_Carlos_M
[07:11] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i have problems with 3ddesk
[07:11] <adaptr> doofy2: is blender opengl-capable ?
[07:11] <duaneb> can I use '--force' with remove?
[07:11] <Antonio_Carlos_M> it worked when i instaled it first
[07:11] <dyrne> Meltdown79: im no wine expert but i normally just wine installer.exe  from anywhere
[07:11] <zt1> yes, Dell has them
[07:12] <adaptr> duaneb: for any package not in any repos, apt-* simply won't work
[07:12] <Meltdown79> dyrne, me too... hmm....
[07:12] <sits> ardchoille: see my reply to Hedegaard
[07:12] <zt1> SIGMATEL STAC 92XX C-Major HD Audio
[07:12] <clearze2> where is the logs of the ssh connections to my computer?
[07:12] <doofy2> adaptr, i truly do not know, im just having an issue when i mouse over stuff it seems to disappear, cant seem to do anything
[07:12] <gxr> yeah, i got those from dell but when i try to run them
[07:12] <duaneb> ok, dpkg then
[07:12] <adaptr> clearze2: /var/log/auth.log
[07:12] <gxr> it says invalid type
[07:12] <clearze2> adaptr: thanks
[07:12] <Hedegaard> sits, brilliant! :) thanks! :)
[07:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> but when i restarted my comp i get
[07:12] <gxr> this is my first linux distro
[07:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[07:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[07:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> Daemon started.  Run 3ddesk to activate.
[07:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> Server not found after waiting 5 seconds.
[07:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> Could not find server.
[07:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> Try starting manually (3ddeskd)
[07:12] <zt1> I have Dell Precision 390
[07:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> thats the message
[07:12] <sits> Hedegaard: as you've noticed, not everything will go on to two lines...
[07:12] <Antonio_Carlos_M> can anyone help me plz
[07:12] <adaptr> doofy2: then blender probably does not support running its interface on opengl - beryl is *all* opengl...
[07:13] <dyrne> Meltdown79: is it configured for win2k or 98?
[07:13] <gxr> "archive type not supported"
[07:13] <Antonio_Carlos_M> I'm i newb in linux
[07:13] <Hedegaard> sits, no that's perfect :)
[07:13] <Antonio_Carlos_M> and i dont have the knowlege
[07:13] <Antonio_Carlos_M> to solve this problem by muself
[07:13] <adaptr> Antonio_Carlos_M: then the way to get knowledge would not be to spam this channel
[07:13] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ok
[07:13] <Antonio_Carlos_M> sry
[07:13] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i ask
[07:13] <posingaspopular> Antonio_Carlos_M: did you try searching the ubuntuforums? Idont know anythingabout 3ddesktop
[07:13] <Antonio_Carlos_M> and no one answers
[07:13] <Antonio_Carlos_M> nope
[07:14] <Meltdown79> dyrne, i did winecfg and chose Windows XP and then pressed OK =)
[07:14] <Antonio_Carlos_M> nothing on forums
[07:14] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i searched
[07:14] <ardchoille> sits: Ah, I see. the panel has to be more than 46 pixels to do it. Thank you :)
[07:14] <adaptr> Antonio_Carlos_M: try to formulate a question about what it is that you're trying to do, and what happens when you do it
[07:14] <southafrikanse> Hello?
[07:14] <adaptr> oh please...
[07:14] <adaptr> !flood | Antonio_Carlos_M
[07:14] <ubotu> Antonio_Carlos_M: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:14] <clearze2>  Antonio_Carlos_M: do you have the drivers for your video card?
[07:14] <adaptr> !enter | Antonio_Carlos_M
[07:14] <ubotu> Antonio_Carlos_M: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:14] <hamit> My internet is very slow. What must I do?
[07:14] <Antonio_Carlos_M> umm.
[07:14] <Antonio_Carlos_M> nope
[07:14] <dyrne> Meltdown79: bah  rm -fr ~/.wine and rerun config maybe
[07:14] <sigterm> hamit: by a bigger pipe
[07:14] <southafrikanse> Can someone help a noob on Ubuntu?
[07:14] <sigterm> ;)
[07:15] <posingaspopular> !ask
[07:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:15] <hamit> :)
[07:15] <clearze2>  Antonio_Carlos_M: start with that first there are threads at ubuntuforums.org
[07:15] <southafrikanse> :D
[07:15] <southafrikanse> OK
[07:15] <southafrikanse> I have no sound on Ubuntu
[07:15] <charliedon> Is anyone else here a Sirius subscriber?  I'm trying to get their internet radio service to run on Dapper. Yeah, YAn00b
[07:15] <SuperTeece> dyrne: I think I sent you the issue, this is my first time on IRC so if you responded I missed it, lol
[07:15] <southafrikanse> My version is Edgy Eft
[07:15] <gxr> justin@justin-desktop:~$ rpm -Uvh kudzu-1.1.95.11-2.<arch>.rpm
[07:15] <gxr> bash: arch: No such file or directory
[07:15] <gxr> justin@justin-desktop:~$
[07:15] <gxr> :(
[07:15] <hamit> I am also using an another linux distro but it is very fast while uing internet
[07:15] <sits> wow lots of questions here. Kinda overwhelming at times : )
[07:15] <posingaspopular> southafrikanse: moreinfo please
[07:15] <sigterm> er
[07:15] <Antonio_Carlos_M> but the problem is that it worked perfectly when i instaled it first, but when i restarted my comp it broke down
[07:16] <Trentster> adaptr, is the only way to have proper multi core support and cpu frequency scaling working is to have generic kernel, is this correct..
[07:16] <sigterm> gxr: do you actually have that rpm in the directory your trying to run that command in?
[07:16] <southafrikanse> My laptop acts like I have sound but I can't listen to anything
[07:16] <gxr> its in a folder
[07:16] <dyrne> SuperTeece: if you did i missed it. just ask it here :)
[07:16] <gxr> so
[07:16] <Antonio_Carlos_M> so i dont think that the driver is the problem
[07:16] <gxr> thats probably why?
[07:16] <Openix> southafrikanse: what sounds are you trying to play, mp3 etc..?
[07:16] <southafrikanse> All types
[07:16] <SuperTeece>  I installed the driver for my Belkin F5D8010. I get driver installed, hardware present with ndiswrapper -l. I do not have an entry for the card in System --> Admin --> Networking. ALso the card's lights are not on. I also have the same problem with the onboard Broadcom.
[07:16] <ardchoille> gxr: It's not a good idea to use .rpm packages in Ubuntu.
[07:16] <Trentster> for core 2 / multi core support and cpu frequency scaling, do you have to use the generic kernel version?
[07:17] <sigterm> gxr: aye, might go into that folder: rpm -Uvh kudzu*.rpm , and best to use .deb types
[07:17] <duaneb> wouldn't "dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq netatalk" work?
[07:17] <posingaspopular> maybe it's alsa
[07:17] <Meltdown79> dyrne, when removing .wine dir and doing winecfg it creats .wine dir..but i get this message "Failed to open the service control manager." any idea?
[07:17] <gerald> what arguments should I use for the sed comand to rid the line numbers of a source code file?
[07:17] <sits> southafrikanse: ouch. One of those. The usual thing is to try playing with the mixers in alsamixer (be careful!) while using something like speaker-test to make sure it's not a case of things being muted
[07:17] <threeseas> sits: yeah, lots of q's, wonder if 1037 pep's can keep up
[07:17] <sits> southafrikanse: but as someone else said it might be alsa. All those AC97 chipsets get wired up different ways by their vendors
[07:18] <southafrikanse> Is it AC97 chipsets?
[07:18] <sigterm> speaking of wired up
[07:18] <southafrikanse> sits: How do you?
[07:18] <duaneb> any dpkg experts here?
[07:18] <sits> southafrikanse: oh sorry
[07:18] <posingaspopular> !alsa
[07:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:18] <dyrne> SuperTeece: if you unplug replug the card and do dmesg | tail does it say anything like eth1 or wlan0
[07:18] <gxr> If I try to double click on the .rpm it says archive support not supported, what should I do?
[07:19] <southafrikanse> sits: It only says HDA Intek
[07:19] <sits> duaneb: better to ask the question rather than ask a question about asking questions
[07:19] <southafrikanse> sits: It only says HDA Intel
[07:19] <Hedegaard> sits, one last panel question - is there a way to resize the bottom one so it's not 100% width ?
[07:19] <dyrne> Meltdown79: might /j wine   i really dont have alot of experience with it other than basic stuff
[07:19] <sits> southafrikanse: ah an intel HD
[07:19] <duaneb> sits: look
[07:19] <duaneb> I've been asking
[07:19] <sits> duaneb: oh sorry
[07:19] <thcmonkey> does anyone know if beryl will work on a rage128pro?
[07:19] <Meltdown79> dyrne, kk thanx man
[07:19] <sits> Hedegaard: yes?
[07:20] <sits> Hedegaard: find an empty bit of panel and press the right mouse button
[07:20] <SuperTeece> dyrne: negitive
[07:20] <sits> go to Properties...
[07:20] <sits> Hedegaard: untick Expand
[07:20] <Gog123> positive
[07:20] <duaneb> got it working
[07:20] <Hedegaard> sits, agh! :) sorry ... should have seen that :) thanks again
[07:20] <Gog123> foo
[07:20] <duaneb> thanks
[07:20] <sits> duaneb: stuff flies by so quickly there's no way I could read it all
[07:20] <thcmonkey> woops
[07:21] <duaneb> sits: no problem
[07:21] <thcmonkey> can i ask again:
[07:21] <KarlsBerg> Hola ant30 , Antonio_Carlos_M
[07:21] <KarlsBerg> :)
[07:21] <Gog123> when is ubuntu next release due out?
[07:21] <dyrne> SuperTeece: sorry Tremulous calls
[07:21] <thcmonkey> anyoe know if beryl will work on a rage128pro?
[07:21] <Gog123> i need some fresh ubuntu
[07:21] <Gog123> :P
[07:21] <Antonio_Carlos_M> hola
[07:21] <posingaspopular> Gog123: feisty
[07:21] <sits> thcmonkey: no
[07:21] <thcmonkey> anyone*
[07:21] <Gog123> posingaspopular whatever
[07:21] <Openix> thcmonkey: if you mean the ati 9250 card - good luck!
[07:21] <thcmonkey> crap, really?
[07:21] <sits> thcmonkey: I believe there are locking issues with the openGL driver for that card
[07:21] <southafrikanse> ubotu: I have Alsa Mixer already selected
[07:21] <Gog123> posingaspopular:  One that includes the google summer of  code work i guess should be nice
[07:21] <adaptr> thcmonkey: try . it. out. - faster than asking about it for an hour :)
[07:21] <kubota> hi, can someone tell me how to mount CD-ROM drives in ubuntu?
[07:21] <Gog123> :P
[07:21] <royel> !feisty | Gog123
[07:21] <ubotu> Gog123: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:21] <sits> thcmonkey: I could be wrong but that was the case last time I looked
[07:21] <Trentster> for core 2 / multi core support and cpu frequency scaling, do I have to use the generic kernel version?
[07:21] <duaneb> anyone had a success in running the live cd off a usb key?
[07:21] <thcmonkey> which version of beryl would it be though?
[07:21] <Gog123> april 2007
[07:22] <thcmonkey> nvidia?
[07:22] <Gog123> ack
[07:22] <shandar> hey
[07:22] <aman> whn i try to access the web, i get the following error:
[07:22] <aman>  Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[07:22] <aman>   klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[07:22] <aman> plz help
[07:22] <sits> thcmonkey: so I guess the answer is "it could be made to work but someone has to fix the drivers first". There is one option I overlooked though
[07:22] <southafrikanse> lool
[07:22] <shandar> uhm. is there anyone that is kick ass on shellscripting here?
[07:22] <thcmonkey> that one option being?
[07:22] <southafrikanse> I'm talking to a bot
[07:22] <thcmonkey> and do you have the same card, sits?
[07:22] <sits> thcmonkey: you _might_ be able to get beryl going under XGL on such a card
[07:23] <royel> !bot | southafrikanse
[07:23] <ubotu> southafrikanse: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:23] <SuperTeece> Well dyrne had to go, does anyone else have any idea what is going on with my question?
[07:23] <kubota>  When I try to access a CD-ROM drive through Nautilus I get the error "unable to mount the selected volume"
[07:23] <sits> thcmonkey: not exactly. At the place I work we have lots of old ATI rage whatevers
[07:23] <sits> thcmonkey: so I keep an eye on stuff about them from time to time
[07:24] <charl_ie> kubota: go to /media/cdrom0, the cd roms contents should be there
[07:24] <tpalma> hi
[07:24] <SuperTeece>  I installed the driver for my Belkin F5D8010. I get driver installed, hardware present with ndiswrapper -l. I do not have an entry for the card in System --> Admin --> Networking. ALso the card's lights are not on. I also have the same problem with the onboard Broadcom.
[07:24] <shandar> shell scripting anyone? :)
[07:24] <sits> thcmonkey: the gentoo folks had a good compatibility list
[07:24] <royel> !anyone | shandar
[07:24] <ubotu> shandar: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:24] <southafrikanse> What can I do to have sound? I feel completely useless
[07:24] <kam> can anyone help with intel 3945 wireless?
[07:24] <kubota> char_lie: okay.
[07:24] <mindstate> when i run uTorrent in wine.. it shows up in my windowlist but i cant open the utorrent window..nothing seems to works
[07:24] <unop> shandar,  whats the matter?
[07:24] <shandar> anyone know how to filter out urls from curl in the terminal?
[07:24] <thcmonkey> it sucks, i was really into getting beryl too :(
[07:25] <sits> thcmonkey: and here's where I read about the locking issue with AIGLX: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx#head-770b2cb0c399c6f67fce0af5cdbc0d1571cface1
[07:25] <shandar> right now I get the full line the url is on, I only want the url
[07:25] <Openix> i will never get another ati card again
[07:25] <Trentster> how do i get core 2 duo cpu multicore support working under Edgy?
[07:25] <posingaspopular> Openix: everyone i know hates ati
[07:25] <unop> mindstate,  why don't you usea native torrent client?
[07:25] <sits> thcmonkey: as I said, it might work under XGL for you
[07:25] <kam> can anyone help with intel 3945 wireless?
[07:25] <kubota> char_lie: When I do that it doesn't show any files. Just a blank window.
[07:25] <SuperTeece> kam: what issue are you having?
[07:25] <mindstate> unop: because utorrent is awesome lol, azureus is too bloated
[07:26] <Openix> Trentster: edgy  supports multicore out of da box
[07:26] <kam> cant get the card started
[07:26] <southafrikanse> Is there a specific channel to speak about sound problems on Ubuntu?
[07:26] <charl_ie> kubota: try mount /dev/hdc1, then go there
[07:26] <mindstate> unop: do you recommend anything?
[07:26] <SuperTeece> kam: driver installed?
[07:26] <adaptr> azureus takes everything that is bad about java, and manages to  combine it with everything that is bad about windows :)
[07:26] <mindstate> adaptr: lmao
[07:26] <shandar> adaptr: lol
[07:26] <shandar> so true
[07:26] <unop> shandar,  you mean your output contains "http://example.com/blah?foo_bar <some html> some text </some more html>" but you only want "http://example.com/blah?foo_bar" ?
[07:26] <Cugel> I have a question: what's the name of the tool to control the placement of new windows? you know, to open a window on desktop 2 every time etc.
[07:26] <adaptr> utorrent takes the best windows can do and distributes it in a 600KB executable. nuff said
[07:27] <kam> i assume its done by default
[07:27] <Trentster> Openix, not with the -386 kernel...
[07:27] <combili> How can I disable dhclient from editing my resolv.conf ?
[07:27] <unop> mindstate,  errm, !bittorrent maybe? i'm not a torrent user at all
[07:27] <mindstate> unop: ah alright
[07:27] <adaptr> combili: there's an option to not change nameservers
[07:27] <Trentster> Openix, just did a cat/cpuinfo, only shows 1 cpu
[07:27] <unop> !bittorrent
[07:27] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB
[07:27] <shandar> unop, yeah
[07:27] <adaptr> Trentster: yes, you need a generic kernel for SMP
[07:28] <mindstate> thats the default client
[07:28] <KDan> how do i make it so that my external usb hdd's are mounted as read-write for all users?
[07:28] <sits> Cugel: the window manager?
[07:28] <thcmonkey> sits: well it supporst direct rendering
[07:28] <thcmonkey> supports*
[07:28] <KDan> (they currently auto-mount as read-only for my main user)
[07:28] <Trentster> adaptr, how do I force install of generic kernel and install nvidia-glx for it..
[07:28] <kubota> char_lie: When I type that  into the terminal it says it cannot find /dev/fstab or etc/mtab
[07:28] <SuperTeece> kam: do you see that card entry when you type lspci in the terminal?
[07:28] <adaptr> Trentster: there is nothing to force, just install it
[07:28] <sits> thcmonkey: true but it depends on what else it supports simultaneously
[07:28] <tpalma> hi i have problem with usb key
[07:28] <kam> yes its there
[07:28] <Cugel> sits: no, there's a tool that allows you to set specific preferences (window size, which desktop to open it on).
[07:28] <Openix> Linux homebox 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:28] <Trentster> when I apt-get install nvidia-glx it always tries to pull the -386 kernel
[07:28] <charl_ie> kubota mount /dev/hdc1 /media/cdrom0
[07:28] <shandar> unop, any ideas?
[07:29] <SuperTeece> kam: how about ndiswrapper -l?
[07:29] <sits> Cugel: aha. That is your window manager
[07:29] <adaptr> Trentster: that's because you're not *running* an SMP kernel
[07:29] <sits> Cugel: different ones let you do it different ways
[07:29] <kam> yes tried it with ndiswrapper as well
[07:29] <combili> adaptr: where is that option ?
[07:29] <ardchoille> !devilspie
[07:29] <ubotu> devilspie is a tool that performs actions on windows in GNOME's metacity such as resizing, positioning, and pinning.  Usage information can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
[07:29] <charl_ie> kubota: mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 even
[07:29] <kam> its on a fujitsu laptop
[07:29] <sits> Cugel: e.g. if you save a session in GNOME it often saves the desktop windows were open on too
[07:29] <SuperTeece> does it show driver installed hardware present?
[07:29] <ardchoille> Cugel: ^^
[07:29] <unop> shandar,  yea, one sec
[07:29] <shandar> unop, cheers :)
[07:29] <adaptr> combili: dunna remember exactly,m but it may well be dhclient's config
[07:29] <Cugel> ubotu has it  -- devilspie is the one I was looking for (I forgot!)
[07:29] <Trentster> adaptr, ive tried..had the generic kernel running, all was well did apackage update, and it broke.
[07:30] <Trentster> could only get nvidia working again under -386
[07:30] <adaptr> Trentster: not really helpful - "broke" how ?>
[07:30] <kam> the only way i get it working.. is starting it in windowsxp and then restarting into ubuntu???
[07:30] <Trentster> would not even install under -generic
[07:30] <sits> Trentster: odd
[07:30] <KDan> how do i make it so that my external usb hdd's are mounted as read-write for all users? (they currently automount as readonly for my main user)
[07:30] <adaptr> Trentster: you need restricted-modules for generic as well - get those
[07:30] <mindstate> also, i've got 2 different linux kernels showing up in my Grub menu. is that ok?
[07:30] <unop> shandar,  echo "http://example.com/blah?foo_bar <some html>some text </some more html>" | perl -ne 'print /(http:\S+)/'
[07:30] <adaptr> mindstate: you could have 25 for all it cares
[07:30] <tpalma> hi  KDan
[07:30] <sits> Trentster: perhaps your repository hadn't caught up at the time you upgraded your kernel
[07:30] <Trentster> adaptr, ok gonna install now
[07:30] <mindstate> adaptr: lol, ok
[07:30] <KDan> hi tpalma
[07:30] <gxr> I have Intel HD soundcard, why am I getting no sound??
[07:31] <tpalma> Hi have problem with usb key
[07:31] <Openix> Trentster: 386 kernel is not for new machines - perhaps it has no multiprocessor support
[07:31] <shandar> unop, awesome. thanks!
[07:31] <SuperTeece> kam: does it show as active or inactive in System -> Admin -> Networking?
[07:31] <sits> Openix: I'd be surprised if it had SMP
[07:31] <Trentster> Openix, its a new core 2
[07:31] <adaptr> Trentster: open synaptic, search for linux-image, check the "generic" one, search for restricted, check the same one, then install those, then reboto in to the generic kernel, THEN install nvidia-glx
[07:31] <sits> Openix: dual CPU/core machines were very rare until pentiums came out
[07:31] <ant30> HI KarlsBerg Why are you using this channel to speak me
[07:31] <tpalma> hi <Openix> <shandar>
[07:31] <adaptr> Trentster: does generic edgy not still have issues with core 2 ?
[07:32] <KDan> how do i make it so that my external usb hdd's are mounted as read-write for all users? (they currently automount as readonly for my main user)
[07:32] <Openix> sits:im surprised it supports graphics!
[07:32] <Dame> !vncviewer
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vncviewer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <sits> gxr: I'd say one of two reasons
[07:32] <adaptr> there used to be big kernel problems
[07:32] <SuperTeece>  I installed the driver for my Belkin F5D8010. I get driver installed, hardware present with ndiswrapper -l. I do not have an entry for the card in System --> Admin --> Networking. ALso the card's lights are not on. I also have the same problem with the onboard Broadcom.
[07:32] <Trentster> adaptr, I don't know
[07:32] <thcmonkey> how do i know if i have the QuinnStorm version of Compiz installed?
[07:32] <KarlsBerg> ant30, why im the master
[07:32] <GMWeezel> Is there a gray or black version of the Human theme? I have looked around but with no success.
[07:32] <sits> gxr: your volumes are two low/ your card is confused and is outputting to the headphone socket only
[07:32] <Trentster> adaptr, I know edgy jmicron support is stuffed...
[07:32] <clearze2> KDan: what type of filesystem is the external drive?
[07:32] <sits> gxr: or the alsa driver didn't quite work on your hardware
[07:32] <kubota> char_lie: When I do that it says I must specify a filesystem type =/
[07:32] <KDan> fat32
[07:32] <tpalma> KDan hi have problem with usb key.The key go on windows but not ubuntu
[07:33] <ant30> KarlsBerg, to spanish channel
[07:33] <threeseas> anyone thought about creating ubuntu channels for better focus? i.e. ubuntu-sound ?
[07:33] <tpalma> yes fat32
[07:33] <sebrock> how do I format a partition to fat32?
[07:33] <ardchoille> GMWeezel: If you can't find it, you  might want to have a look at the murrina themes at http://www.gnome-look.org
[07:33] <Trentster> adaptr, you reccomend i use something besides edgy if im using a core 2?
[07:33] <SuperTeece> threeseas: I agree
[07:33] <KDan> clearze2: fat32
[07:33] <sits> Openix: haha
[07:33] <kubota> threeseas good idea..
[07:33] <poningru> !upgrade
[07:33] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:33] <speedwolf> does anyone have a working Belkin USB F5D7051?
[07:34] <adaptr> Trentster: not to my knowledge, but as I said - I seem to recall there were many issues with core 2 and the edgy kernels
[07:34] <mothersuperior2> has anyone had problems installing wlanng drivers?
[07:34] <clearze2> KDan: you have to set the uid and sid in the /etc/fstab I believe. One sec
[07:34] <adaptr> Trentster: only one way to find out, obviously
[07:34] <tpalma> I format partition with windows but with ubuntu and sun  the key non func
[07:34] <charl_ie> kubota: mount -t cdfs /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0
[07:34] <gxr> how do I change the sound levels?
[07:34] <sebrock> anyone?
[07:34] <Limb0> hey, i need a good graf tool
[07:34] <Limb0> anybody know one?
[07:34] <sebrock> whenever after my machine goes into energy saving mode the next time screensaver will not start? Is this a known problem?
[07:34] <GMWeezel> ardchoille: Thanks. Off topic question though; is gray spelled "grey" in Europe or something?
[07:35] <Trentster> adaptr, thanks.....gonna reboot and see if i can resolve
[07:35] <sits> Trentster: to be fair other than binary drivers there's not a lot of difference between the different distros wrt to compatibity
[07:35] <tobster> Hi
[07:35] <kubota> char_lie: It says that cdfs is an unknown file system
[07:35] <Openix> Trentster: you should be running a 686 kernel and sorting your nvidia problems like that
[07:35] <ardchoille> GMWeezel: No idea
[07:35] <aman>   klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[07:35] <tobster> I need someone help
[07:35] <tobster> :)
[07:35] <aman> what does this error means and how to solve this?
[07:35] <sits> Trentster: what tends to work in one will go on to work in others at the next release
[07:35] <Trentster> Openix, does a 686 exist under synaptic
[07:35] <sits> aman: that's not a good sign
[07:35] <Ryiel> Greetings! I have a little problem. I wanna play PlaneShift, it uses Crystal Space engine. I installed the radeon drivers but ground textures are still missing. (I asked ps devs, they have no clue) At first, all the textures were missing, i installed the radeon drivers and i can see the character now but the ground textures are still missing. Any cule?
[07:35] <ucordes> i got an edgy desktop disc here- but it has no description on it ( i was too lazy ) how can i find out wether it is a beta or final?
[07:35] <Openix> Trentster: Linux homebox 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:36] <sits> I've never known kio_http to not be found on a KDE install
[07:36] <aman> i know. cant browse any webpage
[07:36] <charl_ie> kubota: what about sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0
[07:36] <Openix> Trentster: mybox
[07:36] <tpalma> hi kdan the messages on ubuntu visualize i/o error for my usb key
[07:36] <gxr> sorry for asking again, but where are the sound levels in ubuntu??
[07:36] <sits> aman: I'd guess a broken upgrade but I've not really seen that error before
[07:36] <clearze2> KDan: Yeah, you have to edit /etc/fstab and set the uid and gid
[07:36] <sits> gxr: they are part of the kernel
[07:36] <threeseas> SuperTeece: kubotu or anyone - how might such we get such refined channels set up officially?
[07:36] <zt1> top right corner ?
[07:36] <SuperTeece> gxr: mine is by the time
[07:36] <aman> the full error shown is  : Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[07:36] <aman>  klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
[07:36] <aman>  .
[07:36] <kubota> charl_ie: Same thing. It was requiring me to use sudo before anyways.. hmm..
[07:37] <unop> shandar,  did you PM me just now?
[07:37] <kubota> char_lie: BTW it still says that I have to specify a filesystem type
[07:37] <tobster> Which ALGOL language was first introduce and what was it use for?
[07:37] <SuperTeece> threeseas: this is my first time here or in IRC at all.. I have no clue
[07:37] <clearze2> KDan:
[07:37] <thcmonkey> jees, installing beryl looks like hardwork lol
[07:37] <shandar> unop, no, that was a few mins ago
[07:37] <unop> shandar,  ah, so you ok then?
[07:37] <sits> SuperTeece: go with the flow
[07:37] <shandar> unop, so far so good, yes :)
[07:37] <unop> shandar,  cool :)
[07:37] <sebrock> actually a lot of things seems strange after power saving mode
[07:37] <KDan> clearze2: cheers
[07:37] <corevette> where is the channel for feisty support
[07:38] <clearze2> KDan: I hope that helped
[07:38] <charl_ie> kubota: when you double click on your CD drive in "Computer" what error does it give ("show more details")
[07:38] <gxr> bah, im going to have to go back to windows :( no sound support for my card
[07:38] <tobster> BurryI I gave up when I try and run it my screen goes white and i had to pull the plug on my PC
[07:38] <shachaf> What would be the easiest (and cleanest) way of getting GHC 6.6 working under Edgy?
[07:38] <SuperTeece> sits: I'm sorry, am I doing something wrong?
[07:38] <sits> SuperTeece: nope! :)
[07:38] <Trentster> Openix, whats Linux homebox 2.6.17-11-generic / mybox kernels designed for?
[07:38] <kubota> char_lie: It says "mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist"
[07:39] <clearze2> KDan: Oh you will have to set the <type> as vfat as well
[07:39] <SuperTeece> sits: I hate to seem like a spammer, I'm just trying to make this thing work
[07:39] <tobster> Could someone tell me about ALGOL
[07:39] <mindstate> whats the ubuntu freetalk channel?
[07:39] <charl_ie> kubota: can you paste /etc/fstab
[07:39] <Openix> Trentster: do a uname -a in a console
[07:39] <sits> shachaf: apt-cache search ghc ?
[07:39] <shachaf> sits: That's 6.4.
[07:40] <Trentster> Openix, 2.6.17-10-386
[07:40] <tobster> i need to answer a question in my studies which is what ALGOL?
[07:40] <Trentster> I told you im using -386 at the mo, as I couldent get nvidia latest drivers working under -generic
[07:40] <HLM> mindstate: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:40] <clearze2> kubota: try to mount /dev/hdd1
[07:40] <mindstate> HLM: thank you
[07:40] <sits> shachaf: in that case a) Wait for someone else to package it and use their repository b) Package it yourself c) Compile and install it yourself (in order of cleanliness and ease first)
[07:40] <HLM> yw
[07:41] <royel> !offtopic | mindstate
[07:41] <ubotu> mindstate: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:41] <tobster> siox hi
[07:41] <mothersuperior2> Has anyone ever had probelms installing wlan-ng drivers
[07:41] <mothersuperior2> ?
[07:41] <sioux> hi
[07:41] <Openix> Trentster: you may possibly have to live with 1 processor core
[07:41] <wkdown> I got a two-part question but I think one answer will be biased given the people in here...
[07:41] <tobster> do you know about programming?
[07:41] <beg1689> does ubuntu come with any type of firewall by default?
[07:41] <SuperTeece> tobster: I don't know what it is but I found this -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALGOL
[07:41] <Trentster> Openix, why?
[07:41] <sits> Trentster: I'd check what the nvidia problem really was
[07:41] <tobster> nice one
[07:41] <tobster> thanks
[07:41] <kubota> begl689: look up firestarter
[07:42] <Krator> Hello, how do I reset my keyboard language?It is german now. Setting the language to us in xorg.conf does not seem to work.
[07:42] <mindstate> !ask | wkdown
[07:42] <sits> Trentster: I know people on dual core machines that don't have a problem (but that's not the same as saying everything should be fine for you)
[07:42] <ubotu> wkdown: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:42] <ardchoille> beg1689: Yes, Ubuntu ships with iptables. You can also install Firestarter, which is a gui front-end to iptables.
[07:42] <wkdown> I want to build an Asterisk server and a MythTV server ... 1) Is Ubuntu a good OS choice? and 2) could I put them both on the same server efficiently?
[07:42] <tobster> with Burryl every time I try and run it my screen goes white I have the drivers installed
[07:42] <shachaf> sits: D) Upgrade to Feisty?
[07:42] <threeseas> A list6 of ubuntu channels - but not really what I was suggesting
[07:42] <Openix> Trentster:  686/generic is for modern day machines - you should be using it
[07:42] <threeseas> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat'
[07:42] <kitche> tobster: #ubuntu-effects for beryl help
[07:42] <SuperTeece> I installed the driver for my Belkin F5D8010. I get driver installed, hardware present with ndiswrapper -l. I do not have an entry for the card in System --> Admin --> Networking. ALso the card's lights are not on. I also have the same problem with the onboard Broadcom.
[07:43] <shachaf> sits: I haven't been keeping up, what stage is it in, and how painful would the upgrade be?
[07:43] <Trentster> sits, is there a huge performance penalty not using multicore?
[07:43] <kubota> clearze2 It says munt: can't find /dev/hdd1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:43] <sits> shachaf: ah fiesty has them? Yes that may well a reasonable option if you don't mind being a tester and things breaking
[07:43] <ezekiel72> has anyone in here tried nubuntu?
[07:43] <krznpsk> can anyone help me get this wireless pcmcia card working? i have tried all the HOWTOs, ndiswrapper, everything, i am just lost
[07:43] <tpalma> hi Kubota
[07:43] <Vivvus> What directory do I download a file I intend to install with dkpg?
[07:43] <wkdown> or maybe a BSD would be better suited?
[07:43] <SuperTeece> krznpsk: we may have the same issue, what's up?
[07:43] <kubota> tpalma... Hi?
[07:43] <sits> shachaf: moderately painful. There could still be a big change that broke things and forced you to fix the pieces. If you want cutting edge stuff I guess you learn to live with it...
[07:43] <patrick_king> !ntfs
[07:43] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:44] <royel> Krator: you restarted X after your change?
[07:44] <tpalma> kubota I'am Italian I have problem with usb key
[07:44] <tobster> My computer is new and top of the range is it worth removing Burryl and just wait for the next fantasic Ubuntu release
[07:44] <Trentster> Openix, Ok, will reboot now, I assume after reboot to-generic i have to re-install nvidia-glx...correct?
[07:44] <wkdown> anyone??
[07:44] <bronze> tpalma what problem?
[07:44] <mothersuperior2> can someone help me?
[07:44] <lresende> hey guys, would someone give me a quick help with maven install ? it seems to be working, except for that i have to put the full path, just mvn won't work... i have already added it to the path in /etc/profile
[07:44] <mothersuperior2> with my wikrelss issue?
[07:44] <shachaf> sits: Well, 6.6 isn't that cutting edge (it came out in October).
[07:44] <Openix> Trentster:  maybe?
[07:45] <kubota> tpalma.. I wish I could help, don't know why you're addressing me though :P
[07:45] <Trentster> ok --- c ya---in 5
[07:45] <sits> shachaf: well cutting edge compared to the release of the distro : )
[07:45] <tpalma> hi bronze the usb key run under windows but not in linux/unix
[07:45] <ezekiel72> anyon tried nubuntu?
[07:45] <dury> hi there channel ;)
[07:45] <Openix> Trentster:  I take it you are trying for a 3d desktop?
[07:45] <shachaf> sits: But I ran also Dapper ~2 months early, so I guess Feisty wouldn't be that different.
[07:45] <krznpsk> supertreece: i have the netgear WG511T card in an old laptop, no matter what i do it won't show a signal in the panel wireless manager applet
[07:46] <shachaf> sits: OK, thanks!
[07:46] <sits> shachaf: I'd guess not but I'm not letting you hold me to that statement : )
[07:46] <kubota> clearze2 Any other ideas?
[07:46] <tpalma> I don't understend kubota repeat please
[07:46] <sioux> so wht's news?
[07:46] <krznpsk> supertreece: there is also an internal lucent wavelan card working in this laptop; i couldn't get either one working in opensuse 10.2 or ubuntu 6.10
[07:46] <clearze2> kubota: one sec
[07:46] <sioux> what's new?
[07:47] <kubota> tpalma I was just saying I can't help you, sorry.
[07:47] <sinizzl> hello
[07:47] <shandar> unop, one more thing, I keep getting a quote at the end of the link?
[07:47] <dury> where I can find a .iso of ubuntu dvd, url
[07:47] <sinizzl> does anyone have a copy of a working murrine-gtk2-engine package for ubuntu? all mirrors are down :(
[07:47] <clearze2> kubota: what are you trying to mount?
[07:47] <dury> to burn
[07:47] <sinizzl> i tried some rpms i found on the web but none of em will work :(
[07:47] <dury> lastest ubuntu
[07:48] <kubota> clearze2: a CD-ROM drive. I also have an additional CD-R drive but it is not even recognized by the system.
[07:48] <xopher> sinizzl, if you're on amd64 then yes 
[07:48] <sinizzl> :(
[07:48] <sinizzl> no i'm not.
[07:48] <kubota> clearze2: I think I can see the CD-ROM drive from nautlius
[07:48] <sinizzl> i'm on x86 kekekeke
[07:48] <[DM-S] frieksk> hi
[07:48] <krznpsk> i tried building the dev branch of ndiswrapper as well, but that error'd out
[07:49] <AlexC_> sinizzl: Yep, I do have a .deb =)
[07:49] <clearze2> kubota: does it show up when you type "mount" in the terminal?
[07:49] <sinizzl> AlexC_: could u sent it me somehow?
[07:49] <unop> shandar,  in the curl output, does a quote exist at the beginning -- if so use perl -pe 'print/"(http://\S+)"/'
[07:49] <sinizzl> like... as an attachement by mail?
[07:49] <sinizzl> i only want a working copy of the engine, no themes... i got plenty of themes :D
[07:49] <gu014> is there an app similiar to norton ghost that i can use with ubuntu to make an image of my drive?
[07:49] <brianski> !java6
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <brianski> !java
[07:49] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:49] <krznpsk> but now ndiswrapper -l displays the driver & hardware present, i'm not sure where to go from here
[07:50] <AlexC_> sinizzl: I shall PM you as it's on my own website and don't want to waste my bandwidth on it
[07:50] <brianski> anyone know if there is an unofficial backport of java6 to edgy?
[07:50] <royel> !java
[07:50] <clearze2> kubota: in fact could you past the content of the mount command so I could look at it?
[07:50] <sinizzl> AlexC_: alright
[07:50] <sinizzl> i won't tell anyone:D
[07:50] <SuperTeece> krznpsk: do you see that card in System -> Admin -> Networking?
[07:50] <kubota> clearze2 I will. It doesn't look like there is anything though.
[07:50] <sinizzl> btw i'm on edgy... if that's of any importance
[07:50] <shandar> unop, the quote is at the end
[07:51] <AlexC_> sinizzl: so am I, and I use this .deb - btw, did you get the link?
[07:51] <sinizzl> no i didn't get any link
[07:51] <shandar> unop, and no quote at the beginning
[07:51] <krznpsk> superteece: i see eth1 and ath0 wireless connections, i believe eth1 is the netgear card
[07:51] <unop> shandar,  perl's filtering too much out -- examine the curl output
[07:51] <AlexC_> sinizzl: have you registered you're account?
[07:51] <sinizzl> try notice...
[07:51] <sinizzl> yes
[07:51] <sinizzl> 9:47 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Password accepted - you are now  recognized
[07:51] <albacker> guys i have installed and configured my drivers for intel graphic card [onchip]  but when i do glxgears i get this :
[07:51] <albacker> eni@madgeek:~$ glxgears
[07:51] <albacker> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[07:51] <albacker> libGL warning : 3d... is that an error or i should ignore it
[07:51] <ardchoille> albacker: Hi :)
[07:51] <shandar> unop, hm.. too much? thing is, I get the link, exactly the one I want too, except for the "
[07:52] <sits> albacker: there's a  high probability your card only wants to do GL at certain depths
[07:52] <albacker> ardchoille, hey :D long time no see :D
[07:52] <ardchoille> albacker: Yeah
[07:52] <sits> if it's an old Intel card maybe it only wants/has enough RAM to do GL at 16bit?
[07:52] <albacker> sits, what do you mean
[07:52] <albacker> ardchoille, how's everything ?
[07:52] <sits> albacker: see above
[07:52] <sinizzl> AlexC_: u could tell me the url in channel #blablabla , no one there
[07:52] <unop> shandar,  perl -pe 'print/(http://\S+)"/'
[07:52] <ardchoille> albacker: Good. You?
[07:52] <albacker> sits, no, it's not that old.
[07:52] <mjr> albacker, ignore it
[07:52] <sits> albacker: oh in that case disregard that
[07:52] <AlexC_> sinizzl: no need, I found another .deb: http://download.ubuntu.pl/_Edgy_Eft/gtk2-engine/
[07:52] <sinizzl> ah okay
[07:52] <SuperTeece> krznpsk: I think we have the same issue, should see a wlan entry in that window
[07:52] <sinizzl> thx
[07:53] <sinizzl> where did u find it?
[07:53] <albacker> mjr, sits ok thanks
[07:53] <mjr> albacker, those warnings are somewhat... spurious
[07:53] <albacker> ardchoille, good, have lots of school homeworks, and have to learn a lot..
[07:53] <shandar> unop, that gives me an error. "Unexpected EOF"
[07:53] <krznpsk> superteece: is there a resolution? :)
[07:53] <clearze2> kubota: if you can see the drive from nautilus then it is prob mounted already
[07:53] <sinizzl> AlexC_: do you have the same version of it?
[07:53] <SuperTeece> krznpsk: I'm here trying to find one
[07:53] <AlexC_> sinizzl: yep,
[07:53] <SuperTeece> no luck yet though
[07:53] <GMWeezel> How can I for-loop through a set of files in a folder with a bash script and execute a command on them?
[07:53] <albacker> ardchoille, what have you been doing lately ?
[07:53] <unop> shandar,  perl -pe 'print /(http://\S+)\"/'
[07:54] <ardchoille> albacker: Nothing, just helping out here :)
[07:54] <sinizzl> AlexC_: mkay, i guess it should be workin then
[07:54] <albacker> ardchoille, working ?
[07:54] <krznpsk> rats
[07:54] <AlexC_> sinizzl: that .deb in the link I gave you works fine for me
[07:54] <SuperTeece> I installed the driver for my Belkin F5D8010. I get driver installed, hardware present with ndiswrapper -l. I do not have an entry for the card in System --> Admin --> Networking. ALso the card's lights are not on. I also have the same problem with the onboard Broadcom. Is it that same for you krznpsk?
[07:54] <shandar> unop, that broke the regexp. it doesn't find the link anymore
[07:54] <sinizzl> AlexC_: thx u very much, i finally pimped my desktop :D
[07:55] <AlexC_> sinizzl: hehe, you're welcome
[07:55] <kubota> clearze2: Okay, Then I can I access it? When  I attempt to it says unable to mountthe selected volume,
[07:55] <unop> shandar,  perl -pe 'print /(http://\S+)\"*/'
[07:55] <Pj> YO
[07:55] <krznpsk> superteece: actually i had a belkin usb key and i couldn't get that to work either, but i had problems with it in windows too so i figured it was just defective hardware
[07:56] <UbUnTuNeWbIe> Hello everyone i have searched the help and wiki's and forums and everything seems to be outdated and nothing works, i need to get a netgear wireless WG511 v2.0 card working with kubuntu any help or possible direction to hel would be appreciated
[07:56] <SuperTeece> krznpsk: possible, but mine works in windows
[07:56] <shandar> unop, still not working :/ btw, thanks alot for the help :)
[07:56] <GrimSleeper> I can log in, but for some reason when I try to adjust the time its asking for admin password.  My user pass doesnt work for it.
[07:56] <clearze2> kubota: hang on i'm at work so it will take me a sec
[07:57] <AlexC_> GrimSleeper: still not working?? What happens when in terminal you do "sudo apt-get update"
[07:57] <thcmonkey> vi won't let me add lines - ANNOYING
[07:57] <thcmonkey>  sudo vi /etc...
[07:57] <thcmonkey>  then you hit i and you can add what you want, right?
[07:57] <dle> Hi. For how long are non-LTS releases, like Edgy, supported?
[07:57] <AlexC_> GrimSleeper: it should ask you for you're password, enter in you're User password. Does that work?
[07:57] <AlexC_> dle: not sure, but I think 2 years desktop, 3 years server
[07:58] <krznpsk> superteece: i believe my belkin thing was 5010, not 8010
[07:58] <GrimSleeper> No, not since I updated.
[07:58] <corevette> i get this error: pygame.error: No available audio device
[07:58] <kubota> clearze2: Alright. Take your time, I appreciate your helping.
[07:58] <krznpsk> superteece: anyway, with that one it didn't detect the hardware at all
[07:59] <EV|Server> Hello, I have a problem with GAIM and ubuntu, can I get some help on this?
[07:59] <unop> shandar,  if you gave me the curl thingy i'd know what to filter and what not to -- right now i'm guessing and you're trying, no good
[07:59] <SuperTeece> anyone with wireless issues please /join #ubuntu-wireless maybe we can help eachother
[08:00] <shandar> unop, okay, I'll send it to you via PM
[08:00] <unop> !pastebin > shandar
[08:00] <SuperTeece> anyone with wireless issues please /join #ubuntu-wireless maybe we can help eachother
[08:01] <wkdown> I'm dual-booting XP and Ubuntu ... can I delete XP and have Ubuntu use its partition too?
[08:01] <roostishaw> anyone, what is that alternative menu called? the rectangular one...
[08:01] <corevette> yes wkdown
[08:01] <wkdown> that is, without losing data on Ubuntu
[08:01] <clearze2> kubota: could you paste your fstab file to pastebin as well?
[08:01] <shandar> unop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6433/
[08:01] <corevette> yes wkdown
[08:01] <wkdown> corevette, how would I do that
[08:01] <kubota> clearze2: Sure, one second.
[08:01] <corevette> wkdown do you have gparted installed?
[08:01] <wkdown> corevette, lemme check
[08:02] <corevette> wkdown are you using two separate hard drives? or are you using the same one
[08:02] <wkdown> no, one HD
[08:02] <corevette> okay
[08:03] <corevette> so if you don't have gparted installed wkdown
[08:03] <corevette> wkdown do: sudo apt-get install gparted
[08:03] <GrimSleeper> I don't get it, its asking for a admin pass to change the time.
[08:03] <kubota> clearze2: http://pastebin.com/883800
[08:03] <corevette> do you need to save any info on windows wkdown?
[08:03] <Mattias> gah, compiling on ubuntu is a pain
[08:03] <wkdown> corevette, installing gparted now ... saving the XP info now
[08:04] <Beverage> ubotu: permissions
[08:04] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[08:04] <Mattias> !compile
[08:04] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:04] <Beverage> ubotu, chown
[08:04] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:04] <clearze2> kubota: does the folder /media/cdrom0 exist on your system?
[08:04] <kane77> high-freq, I have two scripts I'm trying to execute with other script.. the script looks like this #!/bin/bash (next line) /opt/script.sh (new line) /opt/script.php the first one doesnt get executed...
[08:04] <wkdown> corevette, ok 'gparted' is on
[08:05] <corevette> is it open wkdown?
[08:05] <corevette> if not wkdown...do: sudo gparted
[08:05] <ernst> hello. how does one start a new gnome-session on a different screen using a different layout from xorg.conf?
[08:05] <kubota> clearze2: Yes it does
[08:05] <wkdown> corevette, not doing it yet ... still transferring files ... give me the steps tho
[08:06] <corevette> i can wait wkdown...unless it'll take a few days or something
[08:06] <Beverage> uhm can someone explain how do completely open up a directory for everything using chown or chmod
[08:06] <wkdown> it'll be awhile yeah
[08:06] <unop> shandar, perl -nle 'print /"(http\S+)"/'
[08:06] <unop> shandar,  that works_for_me (tm)
[08:06] <mindstate> Beverage: sudo chown username /dir
[08:07] <wkdown> corevette, it'll be awhile yeah
[08:07] <unop> Beverage,  for everything?? bad idea -- but anyway -- sudo chmod a+rwx directory
[08:07] <quaal> anyone have a problem with windows going black within beryl ?
[08:07] <gu014> how do i unmount my main hardrive so that i may use partimage?
[08:07] <corevette> not me quaal....what version of beryl do you have
[08:08] <corevette> wkdown....at least open up gparted
[08:08] <kubota> clearze2: when I enter the folder it shows nothing
[08:08] <shandar> unop, yes! it works! thanks you :)
[08:08] <unop> shandar,  :)
[08:08] <wkdown> corevette, done
[08:08] <clearze2> kubota: are you sure the cdrom drive is hdd on your system? If you run the command mount -a what does it say?
[08:08] <shandar> unop, I get a full page of whitespace now :P
[08:08] <quaal> corevette, not sure.. i apt-get'd it
[08:08] <quaal> today
[08:09] <quaal> how do i check version ?
[08:09] <Beverage> unop: its just the /var/www/ and its only on LAN for me to develop/test but im also having trouble getting it to work with apache the webpage i get when i go to 127.0.0.1 is "Forbidden
[08:09] <Beverage> You don't have permission to access / on this server."
[08:09] <slippyr4> why does edgy seem to prefer dash to bash? when dash doesn't seem to have any pluses over bash at all?!
[08:09] <unop> shandar, perl -nle 'print $1 if /"(http\S+)"/'
[08:09] <kubota> clearze2: did you get my PM?
[08:09] <corevette> for me...the nightlies seem stable quaal
[08:09] <corevette> wkdown read me all the filesystems
[08:09] <GrimSleeper> Its not taking my password user root any ideas?
[08:09] <Dr_willis> slippyr4,  theres was some large and hot debating of that.. in short for a 'system shell' dash is faster
[08:09] <clearze2> kubota: nope, try again
[08:09] <unop> Beverage,   in that case, changing permissions or ownsership is not a good idea
[08:09] <quaal> corevette, nightlies?
[08:10] <Beverage> unop, okay what are my other options
[08:10] <shandar> unop, that is perfect. thank you so much :)
[08:10] <corevette> quaal, the releases that come out almost every day
[08:10] <ant1matt1r> im looking for the package that provides libc.so.6, ive tried apt-get/apt-cache and dpkg and searched the packages.ubuntu.com site. Any ideas?
[08:10] <SuperTeece> what is a pcmcia reader listed as in lspci?
[08:10] <quaal> corevette, hmm
[08:10] <quaal> how do you update to them ?
[08:10] <mindstate> whats the name of that terminal program that keeps track of your apt installations and removals?
[08:10] <slippyr4> dr_willis: it may be faster but it doesn't work with an awful lot of shell scripts. can you see any harm in change the /bin/sh symlink to point to bash?
[08:10] <matthew1429> do I need to install a program to get ubuntu to "see" a thumb drive?
[08:11] <shatrat> matthew1429, you should just be able to plug it in.
[08:11] <Dr_willis> slippyr4,  it dosent work with improperly written shell scripts. - and yes theres ways to get /bin/sh to default t bash the wiki/forums discuss the proper ways of doing it.
[08:11] <corevette> quaal....want to try? you have to add the repository
[08:11] <unop> Beverage,  look into adding your user into the www-data group and modify the permissions for only the file or directory under /var/www do you want to access
[08:11] <shatrat> matthew1429, and it will be mounted and displayed on the desktop by default I believe.
[08:11] <neil__> is anyone doing any Google Summer of Code mentoring?
[08:11] <unop> Beverage,  i have to go now .. someone else shouold be able to help
[08:11] <wkdown> corevette, hda1 is XP (NTFS 20GB) .. hda2 is Ubuntu (EXT3 25GB) .. hda4 is extra storage which I'll convert too (NTFS 140GB) and hda3 is SWAP (778MB)
[08:11] <matthew1429> shatrat: thanx
[08:11] <Sonderblade> ,,java
[08:11] <Dr_willis> slippyr4,  for most of the shell scripts changing #!/bin/sh to#!/bin/bash works.  part of the issue is the bash dosent follow the posix standard as much as it should.
[08:11] <clearze2> kubota: try this really fast /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0
[08:12] <clearze2> kubota: with sudo of course
[08:12] <ernst> Hi, I have a question. In my xorg.conf I have to serverlayouts. How can I switch from 1 to another from within Gnome?>
[08:12] <clearze2> kubota: make that sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0
[08:12] <kubota> clearze2: It says command not found
[08:13] <kubota> clearze2, Oh, okay.
[08:13] <corevette> you there quaal?
[08:13] <clearze2> kubota: sorry I'm typing fast
[08:13] <kubota> clearze2: It's okay- it says that hdb does not exist
[08:14] <corevette> so wkdown....do you know what to do?
[08:14] <clearze2> kubota: Does it say the same thing when you try that command with /dev/hdd?
[08:14] <ernst> Hi, I have a question. In my xorg.conf I have to serverlayouts. How can I switch from 1 to another from within Gnome?>
[08:14] <kubota> clearze2: Yes, I tried that.
[08:14] <kane77> high-freq, I have two scripts I'm trying to execute with other script.. the script looks like this #!/bin/bash (next line) /opt/script.sh (new line) /opt/script.php the first one doesnt get executed... why could that be?? (or alternatively is there a way to merge two scripts (one bash the other php) into one??
[08:14] <quaal> corevette, sorry was devouring pizza havent eaten all day
[08:14] <kane77> I have two scripts I'm trying to execute with other script.. the script looks like this #!/bin/bash (next line) /opt/script.sh (new line) /opt/script.php the first one doesnt get executed... why could that be?? (or alternatively is there a way to merge two scripts (one bash the other php) into one??
[08:14] <quaal> which repository must i add ?
[08:14] <corevette> gotcha quall
[08:14] <corevette> quaal
[08:14] <clearze2> kubota: is this a IDE cdrom drive?
[08:14] <wkdown> corevette, I believe I remove the two partitions then expand the Ubuntu one, right?
[08:15] <corevette> yes wkdown
[08:15] <kubota> clearze2: It is AFAIK.
[08:15] <kubota> clearze2: It isn't usb or anything
[08:15] <wkdown> corevette, and it wont affect data on the Ubuntu partition? and it'll change it to hda1?
[08:15] <corevette> yes
[08:15] <wkdown> great thanks man
[08:15] <clearze2> kubota: one sec
[08:15] <colutti> kane77: the script has permission to execute? i mean chmod +x ...
[08:16] <kane77> colutti, yes, and if I execute it manually then it executes...
[08:16] <corevette> add this line quaal: #beryl nightlies
[08:16] <corevette> deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[08:16] <corevette> deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[08:16] <colutti> try this way sh /your_script
[08:16] <colutti> kane77: try this way sh /your_script
[08:16] <SuperTeece> how can I verify that my pcmcia rader is properly installed?
[08:16] <kane77> colutti, ok
[08:17] <UbuntuN00B_HBG_A> hello! three gnome-panel-applets have crashed and wont restart (Trashcan, multiloadapplet and mixerapplet) ive tried to reinstall som of the gnome-packets but i cant get it to work!
[08:17] <kubota> clearze2: okay.
[08:17] <MotorCityMadMan> packages have been kept back:kontact ksysguard ksysguardd    Reason is ?
[08:19] <jason0_> How can I determine how an mp3 was encoded in ubuntu?
[08:19] <jatt> jason0_: mp3info
[08:19] <LordElph> anyone point me at a procedure for upgrading debian sarge to ubuntu dapper drake? not finding much on the ubuntu wiki, maybe it's not possible??
[08:20] <jatt> better install from scratch, ubuntu and debian are not meant to be compatible distributions
[08:20] <colutti> LordElph: i think it is possible but not recomended ...
[08:20] <kane77> colutti, no it doesnt work either...
[08:20] <colutti> kane77: well ..
[08:20] <SuperTeece> could someone with wireless experiance please join #ubuntu-wireless?
[08:20] <corevette> how do i fix this: pygame.error: No available audio device
[08:20] <colutti> kane77: how do you execute it manually?
[08:21] <kane77> colutti, /opt/script.sh
[08:21] <kane77> just like that
[08:21] <LordElph> thats what I figured,but thanks anyway
[08:21] <colutti> kane77: how about its permission?
[08:22] <cypher1> !seen dholbach
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen dholbach - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <brann> how can i customize the "places" menu ; i want to add custom folders to it ...
[08:22] <kane77> colutti, 755 (rwxr-xr-x)
[08:22] <jrib> brann: add a bookmark in nautilus
[08:22] <colutti> kane77: well .. it should work .. i dont know whats going on ...
[08:22] <mccurry> can anyone tell me how to upgrade from 5.0 to 6.10 without reinstall?
[08:22] <jrib> !upgrade | mccurry
[08:22] <jatt> !upgrade
[08:22] <ubotu> mccurry: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:23] <cypher1> mccurry, download the alternate image and upgrade
[08:23] <jrib> mccurry: you can't skip releases, so jump from 5.10 to 6.04 and then to 6.10
[08:23] <kane77> colutti, well I have this script ftp_check (that runs the both .sh and .php scripts) and a link to it in /usr/bin
[08:23] <brann> thx jrib  !
[08:23] <jussi01> Hei all, I have conky installed, works perfectly for the first 10 seconds as the computer is loading... then disappears - can someone tell me how to fix it?
[08:24] <kane77> colutti, when i run /opt/ftp_check it works but when I run only ftp_check *(the link in /usr/bin) then it doesnt run the shell script...
[08:24] <colutti> kane77: weird
[08:24] <kane77> colutti, and runs only the php script (???)
[08:24] <colutti> kane77: very weird
[08:24] <kane77> colutti, I think so :D
[08:25] <colutti> kane77: you sure the first one doesnt execute?
[08:25] <clearze2> kubota: please run the following command and paste the result in pastbin ls -l /dev | grep cdrom
[08:25] <jrib> kane77: does it give you any error?
[08:25] <jussi01> anyone?
[08:25] <kane77> jrib, no it only skips the first one (I know because the first takes a little longer to execute a minute or so)
[08:26] <daviey> Hi, anybody use webdav or devfs?
[08:26] <jatt> devfs?
[08:26] <Anderson1> When looking at the output from 'diff' is the format @@ -[Begin line] , [Continue # of lines]    +[Begin Line] , [Continue # of lines]  @@     ??
[08:26] <SuperTeece> 0000:07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Airgo Networks Inc: Unknown device 0001 (rev 01)   How do I fix this? Unknown device can not be a good thing right? Maybe this is the source of my issue?
[08:26] <jrib> kane77: maybe you can put some echo statements in there to see what is going on?
[08:26] <colutti> kane77: try to edit your script and write an echo "something" to see if it is executed ...
[08:27] <kubota> clearze2: when i do that command it does come up with anything
[08:27] <kane77> jrib, colutti no it doesnt run...
[08:27] <kubota> clearze2 : justgoes down to the next line
[08:27] <jussi01> Hei all, I have conky installed, works perfectly for the first 10 seconds as the computer is loading... then disappears - can someone tell me how to fix it?
[08:27] <colutti> kane77: i'm lost
[08:28] <SuperTeece> I installed the driver for my Belkin F5D8010. I get driver installed, hardware present with ndiswrapper -l. I do not have an entry for the card in System --> Admin --> Networking. ALso the card's lights are not on. I also have the same problem with the onboard Broadcom.
[08:28] <arrenlex> kane77: what is the output of "file /usr/bin/ftpcheck"?
[08:28] <mlalkaka> when i installed kubuntu-desktop (and all its dependencies), i was prompted with a dialog box that asked to specify which display manager (gdm or kdm) i wanted to use. is there any way to get that dialog box again so i can change the display manager again?
[08:28] <jrib> mlalkaka: just do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'  or kdm if you want
[08:28] <arrenlex> mlalkaka: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[08:29] <colutti> mlalkaka: dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:29] <Anderson1> When looking at the output from 'diff' is the format @@ -[Begin line] , [Continue # of lines]    +[Begin Line] , [Continue # of lines]  @@     ??
[08:29] <UbuntuN00B_HBG_A> A lot of my gone-panel-applications wont start... I cant figure out how to reinstall/fix... does anyone know how to fix?
[08:29] <mlalkaka> jrib, arrenlex, colutti: so if i want gdm, i do sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm; and if i want kdm, i do sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm?
[08:30] <jrib> mlalkaka: right, that should work
[08:30] <colutti> mlalkaka: yes
[08:30] <kane77> arrenlex, no at all... I mean it scans a ftp recursively, dumps the output into file, parses it and stores it into mysql...
[08:30] <arrenlex> mlalkaka: No. Both of those commands will give you that little dialogue box to pick the manager.
[08:30] <mlalkaka> arrenlex: oh ok. that works too
[08:30] <SuperTeece> Well I guess I'll try again some other time. Goodbye and good luck with your issues.
[08:31] <[H] 3b0R> hello, i shared an folder through samba gui in nautilus, but how do i decide wich workgroup i share the folder in?
[08:31] <mccurry> i cant get this down, anyone wanna help me?
[08:31] <Weems> is there a way to fix azureus so that i dont have to run sudo azureus to make it load?
[08:31] <mccurry> newb here
[08:31] <arrenlex> kane77: Sorry, I came a little late... am I wrong in thinking that nothing runs when you launch /usr/bin/ftpcheck?
[08:31] <mei> #eclipse
[08:31] <jrib> mccurry: what is your question?
[08:31] <kane77> arrenlex, thats the issue.. right...
[08:31] <mlalkaka> also, i am trying to keep ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed concurrently, but after installing kubuntu, all the kde programs appear in the gnome menu. is there a way to specify only gnome programs show in the gnome menu, and kde programs show in the kde menu?
[08:31] <arrenlex> kane77: Then run the command "file /usr/bin/ftpcheck" and tell me what the output is.
[08:31] <mccurry> i am running 5.0 and I have 6.0 cd and I just want to upgrade
[08:32] <kane77> arrenlex, it runs when I run it from /opt/ftp_check
[08:32] <duaneb> what are the best native games for linux?
[08:32] <kubota> clearze2: i'm running 6.06 if that helps any..
[08:32] <kane77> duaneb, tremulous
[08:32] <arrenlex> kane77: That's fine. Please run the command  "file /usr/bin/ftpcheck" anyway. "file" is the command.
[08:32] <kubota> duaneb: Enemyterritory
[08:32] <mei> hi guys sorry im downloading the full package of wtp, how can i install it and add it to eclipse?
[08:32] <Crescendo> CTRL+ALT+F1 doesn't switch to TTY - I'm thinking there's a shortcut key broken.  How can I check/fix this?
[08:33] <clearze2> kubota: try changing the noauto to auto in the /etc/fstab file
[08:33] <kane77> arrenlex, that explains a lot :D what a dumb person am I... I made it a symbolic link to /opt/script.php
[08:33] <arrenlex> kane77: ^^
[08:33] <clearze2> kubota: also you could try mounting the device as hdb, or hdc as well
[08:33] <mei> sorry how can i add the new plugins to eclipse?
[08:34] <kane77> arrenlex, colutti jrib thanx
[08:34] <duaneb> kubota: I had problems with downloading maps :/
[08:34] <mlalkaka> duaneb: Unreal Tournament 2004, Doom 3, Neverwinter Nights (the first one, and all the expansions and premium modules), Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (which is free-as-in-beer), Medal of Honour: Allied Assault (i think). I think those are just a few.
[08:34] <colutti> kane77: no problem
[08:35] <mlalkaka> duaneb: There is also America's Army or whatever its called; and soon, there will be Unreal Tournament 3.
[08:35] <ubuntu> Hi! I want to install Ubuntu on a Stripe-set of two Samsung SATA-II - harddisks (Motherboard with Raid-Chip is Asus A8N-E), but the installation-procedure just sees the two different hard disks and not the stripe-set. Windows runs at it, so it's not a basic problem. Does anyone know what to do?
[08:35] <duaneb> excellent
[08:35] <duaneb> thanks much
[08:35] <slavik> mlalkaka: there is also doom3, you were thinking of ut2k7 btw
[08:35] <kubota> clearze2: Ok, done..
[08:35] <amorphous_> hi peeps - i got problems with hotplugging - anyone know anything about usb?
[08:36] <slavik> ubuntu: does windows detect the stripe set as a single drive?
[08:36] <mlalkaka> slavik: i mentioned doom3 in the first list ;-)
[08:36] <mei> anybody knows anything about new plugins of eclipse?
[08:36] <Anderson1> When looking at the output from 'diff' is the format @@ -[Begin line] , [Continue # of lines]    +[Begin Line] , [Continue # of lines]  @@     ??
[08:36] <slavik> mlalkaka: i wasn't here then :P
[08:36] <mlalkaka> slavik: i think ut2k7 has been changed to ut3. go to http://www.ut2007.com.
[08:36] <slavik> Anderson1: look it up on google :P, doubt anyone knows it of the top of their head
[08:36] <fuoco> anyone knows if i need to manually do something about 'extended attributes' if I want to use beagle?
[08:36] <clearze2> kubota: did you get that pm?
[08:37] <ubuntu> no, it detects the two single drives the stripe set contains. it says they are not partitioned
[08:37] <slavik> mlalkaka: has it? I thought the engine is unreal3 but the game is unreal tournament 2007 ...
[08:37] <kubota> clearze2: no I didn't for some reason
[08:37] <slavik> fuoco: there is a wiki page about it :)
[08:37] <slavik> fuoco: look for beagle in the wiki
[08:37] <Crescendo> CTRL+ALT+F1 doesn't switch to TTY - I'm thinking there's a shortcut key broken.  How can I check/fix this?
[08:37] <fuoco> slavik: didn't think about that :)
[08:38] <mlalkaka> slavik: that's what i thought too. but on ut2007.com, it is now called unreal tournament 3. it used to say unreal tournament 2007.
[08:38] <clearze2> kubota: after you edit the file rum sudo mount -a
[08:38] <duaneb> can I pretty up my ttys?
[08:38] <slavik> mlalkaka: I see, thanks
[08:38] <duaneb> like gentoo's fbsplash?
[08:38] <ubuntu> slavik: (sry), no, it detects the two single drives the stripe set contains. it says they are not partitioned (understandibly)
[08:38] <slippyr4> is there any harm in deleting /etc/mtab ? it seems to be out of sync with /proc/mounts
[08:38] <clearze2> kubota: did that work for you?
[08:38] <slavik> ubuntu: I haven;t run into the problem myself, have you tried using google?
[08:39] <slavik> slippyr4: I wouldn't
[08:39] <kubota> clearze2: that is weird. It says special device /dev/hdd does not exist
[08:39] <slippyr4> won't it get regenerated? what does it do? why is it wrong?
[08:39] <clearze2> kubota: try changing it to /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc
[08:40] <Anderson1> !diff
[08:40] <ubotu> diff: File comparison utilities. In component main, is required. Version 2.8.1-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 748 kB
[08:40] <Ayabara> I need to set the "ac97_quirk=hp_only" for my laptop, but I don't know in which configuration file I should set such options. can someone help?
[08:40] <ubuntu> slavik: yes. f.e. in your wiki the raid-controller of the A8N-E is named explicitly as running. and so also on some other sites
[08:41] <duaneb> is there a server room?
[08:41] <slavik> duaneb: what's your problem?
[08:41] <kubota> clearze2: So the command should look like ssudo mount -a /dev/hdc
[08:41] <finn23> what's the best way to run skype with ubuntu?
[08:41] <finn23> !skype
[08:41] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:41] <finn23> ok
[08:41] <Comrade-Sergei> is it possible to use a tar.bz2 file in ubuntu?
[08:41] <rempresent> alright, i am now driving a shiny new install of ubuntu and i want to run world of warcraft on an ati 9800 pro, does anyone know where i should start
[08:42] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: of course
[08:42] <slavik> Comrade-Sergei: yes, and I suggest it over tar.gz
[08:42] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib  ok how do i install
[08:42] <slavik> bz2 is huffman coded, gz is zip ... huffman is better
[08:42] <duaneb> slavik: installer's frozen again :(
[08:42] <Comrade-Sergei> i thought it all had to be .deb oh good then
[08:42] <mlalkaka> i am trying to keep ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed concurrently, but after installing kubuntu, all the kde programs appear in the gnome menu. is there a way to specify only gnome programs show in the gnome menu, and kde programs show in the kde menu?
[08:42] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: what are you trying to install?  tar.bz2 is just a compressed tarball...
[08:42] <amorphous_> how can I remove all hotplug details and setup files/apps from my machine & start it all again?
[08:42] <slavik> Comrade-Sergei: you already have bz2 support through tar
[08:42] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib last.fm's player
[08:42] <trollboy> I just set up a samba share as per the tutorial at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server, however when I try to connect from my mac I get "The operation cannot be completed because one or more required items cannot be found.  (Error code -43)"
[08:42] <trollboy> thoughts?
[08:43] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Last.fm
[08:43] <unperson> Hi, I'm trying to run a game and getting a "can't open /dev/dsp" error.  I thought I'd fixed this sort of error before with the command esddsp but now I can't find any such command.  How do I deal with this?
[08:43] <duaneb> slavik: where can I  go>
[08:43] <slavik> duaneb: can't help you there, I've had a similar issue in the past ...
[08:43] <Tsool> Hi folks. Not exactly an Ubuntu-question, but maybe you can help. I have an extern USB-disk that was filled to the brim. I deleted one directory (with a DVD-image in it) to free some space. Oddly enough, the disk was still full. When I run df I get "/dev/sda1 240362656 234346464 0 100% /media/extern". If I read it correctly I have about 6G unused, but no free space. Where's the beef?
[08:43] <Comrade-Sergei> slavik comrade=n00b i need it know how to install it
[08:43] <slavik> duaneb: the livecd installer? and where does it freeze?
[08:43] <Feengur> hi all :D
[08:44] <jrib> !info lastfm
[08:44] <ubotu> lastfm: an audio player for last.fm personalized radio. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.90-3 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1080 kB
[08:44] <arrenlex> !hi | Feengur
[08:44] <ubotu> Feengur: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:44] <rempresent> i am now driving a shiny new install of ubuntu and i want to run world of warcraft on an ati 9800 pro, does anyone know where i should start?
[08:44] <slavik> Comrade-Sergei: you already have support for bz2, nothing to install
[08:44] <clearze2> kubota:  no edit the fstab file with something like nano /etc/fstab
[08:44] <clearze2> and change the /dev/hdd to /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc then after the changes have been saved run sudo mount -a
[08:44] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: ah it is packaged, you can just install the "lastfm" package using your favorite package manager
[08:44] <slavik> rempresent: glxinfo | grep direct gives you what?
[08:44] <Comrade-Sergei> slavik of course i do i just downloaded a bz2 file dont i need to install some how
[08:44] <Arcterex> I'm having some issues with getting feisty to boot on a system with SCSI and software raid :(
[08:44] <lazrpark93> ubuntu is so good
[08:44] <The_PHP_Jedi> sup guys. I'm going to switch to Ubuntu although I have some Linux experience and stuff.
[08:44] <slavik> oh, I see
[08:44] <rempresent> slavik:  gimme a sec
[08:44] <The_PHP_Jedi> :)
[08:44] <Feengur> rempresent:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[08:44] <ephesius> anyone know how to get conky to display rhythmbox info
[08:44] <slavik> I misunderstood you, sorry
[08:44] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib will gdebi do it?
[08:45] <kubota> clearze2: Oh. Well, I did that whenI changed it to auto
[08:45] <Arcterex> worked fine in 6.10, but a fresh feisty herd for install and it comes up with an mdadm error
[08:45] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: no, use synaptic or Add/Remove to install the lastfm package, no need to use that tar.bz2
[08:45] <slavik> Comrade-Sergei: you downloaded the source code, check synaptic, there should be lastfm there
[08:45] <rempresent> slavik:  libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[08:45] <rempresent> direct rendering: Yes
[08:45] <kubota> clearze2: what should I change?
[08:45] <rempresent> feengur:  thanks
[08:45] <Feengur> np :D
[08:45] <slavik> rempresent: start reading the wiki then :)
[08:45] <Feengur> you're gonna need wine, but that link will give you all the resources you need
[08:46] <Comrade-Sergei> Oh cool i forgot about that thanks jrib and slavik!
[08:46] <clearze2> kubota: basicly I think your system is seeing your cdrom drive as present at either /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc. Not at /dev/hdd like you have now.
[08:46] <rempresent> slavik: kk, thanks
[08:46] <Feengur> including the latest wine instal
[08:46] <rempresent> feengur:  thanks
[08:46] <clearze2> kubota: Does that make sense to you?
[08:46] <Feengur> what server you play on?
[08:46] <rempresent> terenas
[08:46] <rempresent> horde and alli
[08:46] <Feengur> I just started a new account.  Have a Night Elf hunter on Kael'thas
[08:46] <kubota> clearze2: I understand, i'm not sure what to do with that information though
[08:46] <slavik> Feengur: durotan :)
[08:46] <Arcterex> comes up with "mdadm: no devices listed in conf file were found" and then errors about target not having /sbin/init
[08:47] <rempresent> alright, i am going to give it a whirl, i will keep you updated
[08:47] <Feengur> kk
[08:47] <unperson> Anyone?  How do I get software working in edgy that complains it can't write to /dev/dsp?  Am I hallucinating the command esddsp, because I can't find it.
[08:47] <Feengur> i'll stick around the chan
[08:47] <Arcterex> however when I go into the busybox shell I can run mdadm -A --scan and it starts up the array just fine
[08:47] <dejx> how do i connect on network secured by wpa with network-admin ? (and yes i know ssid and passphrase)
[08:47] <clearze2> kubota: in your /etc/fstab file you have to change the line that starts with /dev/hdd to /dev/hdb and save it then run sudo mount -a and see if it mounts
[08:47] <Pooky> you know it's a bad sign when you can't get any media player to work right, so you just use mpg123 to pass the time.
[08:47] <kubota> clearze2: Okay when I change it to /dev/hdb is says that the fstba file is bad
[08:47] <Pooky> stupid m4a files.
[08:48] <rempresent> slavik, feengur:  should i compile from source, or should i just get the deb?
[08:48] <clearze2> kubota: It say the fstab file is bad?
[08:48] <Feengur> wine?
[08:48] <rempresent> yar
[08:48] <Feengur> i just used the deb
[08:48] <kubota> clearze2: It says that line 7 of the fstab file is bad
[08:48] <Tsool> Hmm...new try :) Not exactly an Ubuntu-question, but maybe you can help. I have an extern USB-disk that was filled to the brim. I deleted one directory (with a DVD-image in it) to free some space. Oddly enough, the disk was still full. When I run df I get "/dev/sda1 240362656 234346464 0 100% /media/extern". If I read it correctly I have about 6G unused, but no free space. Where's the beef?
[08:48] <rempresent> kk
[08:48] <kubota> after running mount -a
[08:48] <clearze2> kubota: okay then change it back. Do you have a cd in the drive?
[08:49] <kubota> clearze2: Yes/
[08:49] <arrenlex> Tsool: It's in the trash.
[08:49] <Comrade-Sergei> Guys i dont see anything that might work in synaptic for last.fm
[08:49] <Mattias> anyone remember that guy who has a blog about linux games? maybe even got the website adress?
[08:49] <Tsool> arrenlex: Not if you do it from the command line
[08:49] <arrenlex> Tsool: Oh.
[08:49] <ubuntu_> merhaba
[08:50] <slavik> Comrade-Sergei: in synaptic, search for 'lastfm'
[08:50] <ubuntu_> hello
[08:50] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: have you enabled the universe repository?
[08:50] <slavik> Comrade-Sergei:   ?
[08:50] <[DM-S] frieksk> is there a way to download wine instead of using the terminal
[08:50] <Comrade-Sergei> yes i am russian why?
[08:50] <jrib> [DM-S] frieksk: install "wine" using synaptic
[08:51] <[DM-S] frieksk> because the linux pc isn't connected to the internet
[08:51] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib yes i believe so
[08:51] <dejx> hello
[08:51] <dejx> how do i connect on network secured by wpa with network-admin ? (and yes i know ssid and passphrase)
[08:51] <Feengur> hmmm.  what's a good resource for c++ in linux?
[08:51] <Comrade-Sergei> and i get no results with "lastfm"
[08:51] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: in a terminal:  sudo aptitude install lastfm
[08:51] <kim_> [DM-S] friedsk, you can download a .deb for ubuntu att www.winehq.com :)
[08:51] <unperson> Is there some specific package I need to install in order to get the command esddsp, or has it been superceeded by something else?
[08:51] <clearze2> kubota: I don't know that is strange I haven't had a cdrom drive give me that much trouble.
[08:51] <cyris> dejx: i could never get it to work with network-admin, i use network-manager-gnome
[08:51] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib it says Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "lastfm"
[08:52] <slavik> Comrade-Sergei: make sure to enable the repos, as I get results when I search :)
[08:52] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: also, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:52] <kubota> clearze2: Yeh, this is an older P3 computer that was donated to my church.
[08:52] <chalcedony> .
[08:52] <slavik> is realtek friendly with wifi drivers?
[08:52] <chalcedony> good day
[08:52] <clearze2> kubota: I'll see if I can find an answer for you
[08:52] <Comrade-Sergei> slavik yea i did i think i clicked the other two boxes on the first one in the synaptic repos...
[08:52] <kubota> Clearze2: it doesn't even recognize that a cd-r drive is present
[08:52] <Feengur> slavik, sound or network?
[08:52] <eniacpx> Has anyone ever had this problem? I mount a CIFS share as a user, it shows me all the files, but reports zero size and won't let me open anything. If I mount the same share as smbfs it works fine. Any ideas?
[08:52] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib dapper
[08:53] <slavik> Feengur: wifi
[08:53] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: it doesn't exist in dapper, only in edgy
[08:53] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib ummmm is it possible though?
[08:53] <chalcedony> hi jrib :)
[08:53] <kubota> clearze2: okay. thank you! really appreciate your help
[08:53] <Feengur> realtek is generally compatible with the standard ubuntu drivers
[08:53] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib well can i upgrade to edgy without reinstalling everything?
[08:54] <clearze2> kubota: have you tried /dev/hdc in the etc/fstab file?
[08:54] <Feengur> you're going to have to do a little bit of manual configuration
[08:54] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: you can try to rebuild the edgy package, or you can follow the wiki guide I gave you for installing from the tarball.  Yes, you can upgrade to edgy without the need to reinstall anything (as long as it's successful of course...)
[08:54] <clearze2> kubota: /dev/hdc is your secondary master
[08:54] <corevette> how stable is feisty?
[08:54] <jrib> chalcedony: hi
[08:54] <cyris> kubota: are you having issues mounting a cd ?
[08:54] <Feengur> but there shouldn't be any real driver issues
[08:54] <kubota> clearze2: yes, it gave me the bad line seven in fstab again
[08:54] <jrattner> Question: Where can I find information about changing my GDM screen
[08:54] <slavik> Feengur: as long as it is way better support than bcom and such
[08:54] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib i have a disc i burnt but its junk cani  do it easily some how?
[08:54] <kubota> cyris: Yes, I guess.
[08:55] <jrib> jrattner: system > administration > login window
[08:55] <ubuntu> next try: Does anyone know about problems using the raid-controllers?
[08:55] <jrib> !upgrade | Comrade-Sergei
[08:55] <clearze2> kubota: I believe /dev/hdd is your secondary slave so do you have your drive slave?
[08:55] <ubotu> Comrade-Sergei: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:55] <Feengur> most realtek devices will run on the legacy drivers.  I have yet to run into one that doesn't
[08:55] <Feengur> :D
[08:55] <jrattner> jrib, where can i find more themes
[08:55] <cyris> kubota: how are you mounting?
[08:55] <clearze2> kubota: sorry set as a slave
[08:55] <Comrade-Sergei> ok brb
[08:55] <jrib> jrattner: gnome-look.org
[08:55] <chalcedony> how can i open open office draw if i don't have draw listed in Applications?
[08:55] <eltese> Anyone good at vmware? :)
[08:55] <kubota> clearze2: I'm not sure
[08:56] <jrib> chalcedony: 'oodraw' is the command
[08:56] <kubota> crysis: i'm not sure
[08:56] <cyris> chalcedony: you could install draw, if thats an option :S
[08:56] <slavik> Feengur: legacy drivers meaning?
[08:56] <rempresent> feengur:  before i get my wine installation to work, should i get my graphics up first?
[08:56] <rempresent> ati...
[08:56] <chalcedony> ty jrib
[08:56] <slavik> Feengur: I want to get a motherboard that has a realtek wifi module
[08:56] <slavik> the asus p5w dh deluxe
[08:56] <cyris> kubota: mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[08:56] <cyris> kubota: mkdir /mnt/cdrom first.
[08:56] <Feengur> slav, that should work really well
[08:56] <unperson> Ok, I see several things referencing using esddsp on Edgy.  What can't I find it?
[08:56] <clearze2> kubota: there should be jumpers on the back of the drive that tell you if it is set as a master or a slave drive. You could probably use the cable select setting as well.
[08:56] <eniacpx> jrib: since you seem to be answering all the questions, do you have any experience with cifs shares?
[08:57] <Feengur> rempresent, you should get your video drivers runnnig before you install wine yes
[08:57] <hektik_> can somone help me, im trying to install amd64 edgy and when i boot up i have a wireless linksys G wireless card, how do i get my net working
[08:57] <jrib> eniacpx: nope, sorry
[08:57] <rempresent> kk
[08:57] <subopt> Is there some way to force the feisty installer to use console mode?
[08:57] <Arcterex> anyone installed fiesty with software raid on scsi?
[08:57] <rempresent> feengur:  for ati drivers, some compile those from source, what do you think?
[08:57] <jrib> subopt: use the alternate cd, use #ubuntu+1 for feisty questions please
[08:57] <Feengur> you have automatix?
[08:57] <arrenlex> rempresent: what's the output of "glxinfo | grep render"?
[08:57] <jrib> Arcterex: #ubuntu+1 for feisty please
[08:57] <Feengur> easiest way to install the drivers i have found
[08:58] <kubota> clearze2; okay I'll check
[08:58] <tdn> How do I set the console resolution to 1400x1050? Right now I have set it to 1024x768 by using vga=791. What is the option for 1400x1050? And where do I read the documentation on these vga mode options?
[08:58] <rempresent> arrenlex:  hould up
[08:58] <kubota> cyris; it says /mnt/cdrom doesn't exsist
[08:58] <rempresent> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[08:58] <rempresent> direct rendering: Yes
[08:58] <chalcedony> jrib: ~$ run oodraw
[08:58] <chalcedony> bash: run: command not found
[08:58] <chalcedony> ~$
[08:58] <clearze2> Feengur: wow, last time I mentioned automatix in this channel I got 2 pages of don't do that responses
[08:58] <Feengur> lol, bah
[08:58] <jrib> chalcedony: no "run"
[08:58] <arrenlex> rempresent: There should be one more line.
[08:58] <cyris> clearze2: i got that lastnight
[08:58] <chalcedony> just figured that out :)
[08:58] <rempresent> nope
[08:58] <rempresent> two lines
[08:58] <[DM-S] frieksk> another question guys
[08:59] <Feengur> i've never had any problems with automatix
[08:59] <rempresent> libGL and direct rendering
[08:59] <cyris> kubota: mkdir /mnt/cdrom
[08:59] <Feengur> and after 5 days of trying to install the vid drivers with no luck
[08:59] <Feengur> i got automatix and did it in 10 mins...
[08:59] <Comrade-Sergei> how can i tell what version im using (ie hoary, breezy)
[08:59] <[DM-S] frieksk> nvidia drivers, what's the diffrence between the 2
[08:59] <[DM-S] frieksk> Latest Version: 1.0-9746
[08:59] <[DM-S] frieksk> Latest Legacy GPU version: 1.0-7184
[08:59] <cyris> Feengur: i argued the same point lastnight, but i guess lots of people have had some issues with it breaking systems :S
[08:59] <rempresent> automatix?
[08:59] <jrib> !version | Comrade-Sergei
[08:59] <ubotu> Comrade-Sergei: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[08:59] <imbecile> hey guys how to i uninstall something i didnt install with synaptic or apt-get? im trying to remove freenx
[08:59] <eltese> Allright. Ive got vmware workstation and Im trying to install kubuntu edgy but I only got the Iso and Im veeeeery noob on vmware.. Anyone who can help? ;D
[08:59] <Feengur> i guess it just depends on your hardware
[09:00] <jrib> imbecile: how did you install it
[09:00] <cyris> Feengur: who knows :S
[09:00] <imbecile> jrib,  I used a website
[09:00] <kubota> clearze2: i can't see anything that tells me about master/slave on the cd rom drives. I thought that was a HDD thing?
[09:00] <arrenlex> rempresent: And what does "glxinfo 2> /dev/null | grep GL | grep string | wc -l" say?
[09:00] <Anderson1> what is this kernel folder  2.6.17.3.emp3 ?/??
[09:00] <Feengur> ya rly :P
[09:00] <slavik> my problems: X gets killed the first time I login and there are no virtual ttys (Ctrl+Alt+(F1-F6)) if I boot the regular kernel ...
[09:00] <jrib> imbecile: umm, you have to be more specific.  Did you just visit the website and it magically installed?
[09:00] <clearze2> kubota: No, cdroms are setup the same way
[09:00] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib nno worky
[09:00] <imbecile> jrib,  it had an installer
[09:01] <jrib> imbecile: continue...
[09:01] <kubota> clearze2: Should I look in the bios?
[09:01] <dejx> cyberix i use xubuntu..is there chance to get this gnome program run into xubuntu (i dont have access to internet at the moment, only available via wireless)
[09:01] <clearze2> kubota: There should be jumpers on the back of the cdrom, but it could but set in the bios as well
[09:01] <rempresent> arrenlex:  all that for "3"
[09:01] <imbecile> jrib,  hold on i'll find the info
[09:01] <firefly2442> Does Beryl work with ATI proprietary drivers?
[09:01] <arrenlex> rempresent: Interesting.
[09:01] <clearze2> firefly2442: yes
[09:01] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: what is the outpuit from 'lsb_release -a'?
[09:01] <rempresent> arrenlex: what are you thinking?
[09:01] <cyris> dejx: if you dont have internet, but have your install cds you should be able to/
[09:01] <arrenlex> rempresent: And then "glxinfo 2> /dev/null | grep GL | grep string"
[09:01] <mlalkaka> Is there a way to to configure KDE and GNOME so that only KDE programs appear in the KDE menu and only GNOME programs appear in the GNOME menu?
[09:02] <rempresent> arrenlex:
[09:02] <arrenlex> rempresent: I'm thinking you already have 3D acceleration with the free drivers and shouldn't bother with fglrx unless it doesn't work for you.
[09:02] <rempresent> OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
[09:02] <rempresent> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 1x TCL
[09:02] <rempresent> OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 6.5.1
[09:02] <jrib> !paste | rempresent
[09:02] <ubotu> rempresent: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:02] <Anderson1> what is this kernel folder  2.6.17.3.emp3 ?/??
[09:02] <dejx> cyberix
[09:02] <arrenlex> jrib: 3 lines is the max for a channel paste by convention, I think.
[09:02] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi, I'm wondering, is there good software for messing around with matrices? I need software for linear algebra.
[09:02] <Feengur> i'll brb.  phone
[09:02] <arrenlex> rempresent: You have 3D acceleration already with the free drivers. Don't bother going through the headache with fglrx unless they don't work for you (which is very possible)
[09:02] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib dapper
[09:02] <kubota> clearze2: i'll check the BIOS- don't see jumpers or anything on the back of the CD-rom drives
[09:02] <slavik> my problems: X gets killed the first time I login and there are no virtual ttys (Ctrl+Alt+(F1-F6)) if I boot the regular kernel ...
[09:02] <k31th> how do i remove a source install or ruby
[09:03] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib whats the command to upgrade
[09:03] <jrib> arrenlex: he used 4 really :)
[09:03] <dejx> cyris can i download this somewhere and then mount win partition and then apt-get somehow?
[09:03] <dejx> what packages i need?
[09:03] <rempresent> i will give it a shot
[09:03] <arrenlex> jrib: How's that?
[09:03] <toddobryan> I'm trying to help someone finish an Ubuntu installation. His only net connection is a USB wireless stick. There's a Howto to get it working, but it requires downloading packages to compile something.
[09:03] <tld> What would I need to install to get java applets working in Firefox?
[09:03] <firefly2442> Can I apt-get install the ATI proprietary drivers in Edgy?
[09:03] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: it's on the wiki page that I gave you before.  Do you still have it open?
[09:03] <jrib> arrenlex: never mind, now we're just wasting more space
[09:03] <Comrade-Sergei> yea
[09:03] <toddobryan> Is there a way to grab a package (and its dependencies) from the repos and easily save them to a flash drive or CD?
[09:04] <arrenlex> !fglrx | firefly2442: yeah, you can:
[09:04] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib i did that command and it brings up update manager and that says there is no more upgrades availible
[09:04] <ubotu> firefly2442: yeah, you can:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:04] <Dr_willis> toddobryan,  thats a feature of the apt-get system. ive seen covered in the apt-get manuals/guides/docs/tutorials
[09:04] <firefly2442> thank you
[09:04] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: can you paste the command you used?
[09:04] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[09:04] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:04] <cyris> dejx: read the documenation that comes with the package, it should tell you what software you need, also apt-get should grab all the packages you need.
[09:04] <Dr_willis> toddobryan,  but i dont rember the command. :)
[09:04] <kubota> cryis: it says /dev/cdrom is not a block device
[09:04] <blizz> hi, what's the difference between LUFS and FUSE?
[09:05] <imbecile> jrib, i found the folder its usr/NX I just delete the whole thing?
[09:05] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib: gksu "update-manager -c"
[09:05] <cyris> kubota: well, go through dmesg and find out what your cdrom's device name is
[09:05] <kbrosnan> !java | tld
[09:05] <ubotu> tld: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:05] <jrib> imbecile: it's impossible to tell what the installer did.  You'll have to look for documentation or instructions from freenx.  But that is probably all of it, except stuff that ended up in /usr/bin
[09:06] <tld> kbrosnan: thanks
[09:06] <tld> !multiverse
[09:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:06] <tld> !EasySource
[09:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:06] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: hmm what do your sources.list look like?
[09:06] <eniacpx> How can I give all users the ability to mount samba shares?
[09:06] <ucordes> can i feed wget with a textfile that contains a URL that is to be downloaded?
[09:07] <cyris> dejx: its either hda or hdb.
[09:07] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib again N00b
[09:07] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: I need to see the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file.  You can enter this command: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   and then !pastebin the contents
[09:07] <arrenlex> ucordes: -i,  --input-file=FILE     download URLs found in FILE.
[09:07] <jrib> !pastebin | Comrade-Sergei
[09:07] <ubotu> Comrade-Sergei: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:07] <imbecile> jrib,  the install error out.. i had unsatisfied dependencies whe i installed so it couldnt continue
[09:07] <ucordes> arrenlex: ah thx i bet you found that in the man?
[09:08] <arrenlex> ucordes: wget --help
[09:08] <toddobryan> DrWillis: unfortunately, he doesn't have net access in Ubuntu, only Windows, which doesn't have apt-get.
[09:08] <ucordes> arrenlex: heh k thx anyways
[09:08] <jrib> imbecile: k, then I would just remove that directory you mentioned.  The worst thing that will happen is that you'll have some random files not doing anything on your hard drive
[09:08] <k31th> how do i remove a source install
[09:08] <jrib> k31th: what command did you use to install it?
[09:08] <Jerr|sd> well, I was gonna install ubuntu then I saw that it didn't recognize my RAID5
[09:08] <chalcedony> jrib: does open office have an image editor .. i remember using something or does draw rotate the image of a page i scanned and let me change it?
[09:09] <k31th> jrib: make install
[09:09] <kubota> cryis: I went through there and din't find anything on a cd-rom drive
[09:09] <jrib> chalcedony: I think draw is it, but I have no experience with it
[09:09] <k31th> make uninstall does not seem to work
[09:09] <offby1> what do I need to do to get feisty to recognize my wireless card?  It worked fine in edgy :-|
[09:09] <chalcedony> jrib: ok ty .. wonder who does?
[09:09] <steel_lady> Please help! I have constant problem not hearing sound!!!
[09:10] <Jerr|sd> I looked a bit at the guides online but it requires that I already had it installed (wtf, how am I supposed to recompile a kernel when it's not on my system!?)
[09:10] <jrib> k31th: in the future you should use checkinstall.  At this point you either have to remove everything manually, or you can try to install it again using checkinstall this time.  Then it will show up in synaptic
[09:10] <chalcedony> jrib:  could i use something else in xsane for that?
[09:10] <eternalswd> steel_lady, what hardware?
[09:10] <cyris> kubota: how did you go about install ubuntu on this system?
[09:10] <jrib> chalcedony: you can try #users.openoffice.org   But why not use the GIMP to edit the image?
[09:10] <steel_lady> eternalswd, I have inspiron 6400 Dell laptop
[09:11] <Jerr|sd> and why doesn't the "livecd" part have irssi nor xchat nor any IRC program?
[09:11] <kubota> cyris: the cd-rom drive, lol.   The live cd
[09:11] <jrib> Jerr|sd: gaim lets you use irc
[09:11] <steel_lady> eternalswd I have some simple incorporated sound card
[09:11] <Jerr|sd> oh
[09:11] <chalcedony> jrib the GIMP would probably do if i have enough ram in this computer, i've never done anything so it's all new to me
[09:11] <Jerr|sd> I forgot about that
[09:11] <imbecile> ok howdo i find a folder in terminal?
[09:11] <Dr_willis> imbecile,  locate, or find command.
[09:11] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6441/
[09:12] <offby1> imbecile: find ~ -type d -name 'Whatever'
[09:12] <cyris> kubota: haha ok just checking. well man, im sure its working then :P. is your cdrom on the same ide channel as your hard drive ?
[09:12] <jrib> imbecile: 'locate', 'find', 'whereis' are good options
[09:12] <eternalswd> steel_lady, okay, just got to ask this, but have you checked to make sure the volume is up using the volume manager?
[09:12] <Unox> Hi, i have a Dell truemobile 1180, and cannot make it work in Ubuntu 6.10, plz help
[09:12] <imbecile> thanks all
[09:12] <Chadarius> Unox: are you using ndiswrapper?
[09:12] <kubota> cyris: Let me check. I'm a little slow when it comes to hardware
[09:12] <Unox> I tried
[09:12] <Feengur> back
[09:12] <cyris> kubota: no worries, what i mean is it on the same ribon.
[09:13] <Chadarius> Unox:  and what happened?
[09:13] <Chadarius> Unox: can you see wireless networks?
[09:13] <Unox> I used it with the win98 drivers, and the inf file was corrupte
[09:13] <padkins1_> what would cause all game to go hyper in speed?
[09:13] <Unox> corrupted*
[09:13] <cyris> kubota: do me a favor and do a dmesg | grep hda , what comes up?
[09:13] <steel_lady> eternalswd, I have volume on maximum by hardware and in the software. it happens all the time that I don't have sound and then I have to restart or the sound is getting lower and lower
[09:13] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6441/
[09:13] <Unox> no
[09:13] <Chadarius> Unox: Windows 98 drivers will not work at all not even close
[09:13] <brandon> Anyone know of a script/app/anything that you can use to send a command (ie, alt-tab) to X?  Use is for if I'm ssh'd in on a box and need to tab between open windows.
[09:14] <Unox> I also tried the 2k ones, they installed but doesnt work
[09:14] <Chadarius> Unox: you need to download the appropriate Windows 2k/xp drivers to use ndiswrapper
[09:14] <offby1> brandon: are you running X over ssh?
[09:14] <Netham45> XD
[09:14] <eternalswd> steel_lady, so when you first boot up you have sound, but then it goes away?
[09:14] <Netham45> this channel overloads the seenbot feature on my bot
[09:14] <brandon> offby1: no,
[09:14] <atla> heiho
[09:14] <kubota> cyris: they have seperate cables, but they go to the same place
[09:14] <Unox> another thing is that in networkmanager wlan0 is a wired connection
[09:14] <atla> someone installed feisty here?
[09:14] <jrib> brandon: xvkbd or xmacro
[09:15] <cyris> Netham45: its a pretty busy channel, thats forsure...
[09:15] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib?\
[09:15] <jrib> atla: feisty help in #ubuntu+1
[09:15] <steel_lady> eternalswy, yap it looks like that
[09:15] <Chadarius> Unox: Did you lookup your card and see which drivers specifically to use? sometimes they need at least a specific version or higher
[09:15] <mindstate> anyone know why i cant get the uTorrent window to pop-up under wine?
[09:15] <cyris> Unox: I solved that problem by commenting out all devices in /etc/network/interfaces except for loopback.
[09:15] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: weird, I'm looking for bugs
[09:15] <Chadarius> !ndiswrapper
[09:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:15] <Comrade-Sergei> alwas me huh?
[09:15] <brandon> jrib: Thanks, taking a look at those now
[09:15] <eternalswd> mindstate, did you minimize it and it's not restoring?
[09:16] <unop> brandon,  errm, thats going to be hard -- differrent parts of a window listen to different keystroke combinations and act upon them individually
[09:16] <Unox> Unox: Did you lookup your card and see which drivers specifically to use? sometimes they need at least a specific version or higher its a usb device, how?
[09:16] <mindstate> eternalswd: yes, i've rebooted several times also..same thing
[09:16] <cyris> kubota: dmesg | grep hda
[09:16] <eternalswd> steel_lady, I have no idea what could be wrong then, maybe a power supply issue?
[09:16] <mindstate> eternalswd: now the window doesnt show at all...just the icon in my window list
[09:16] <cyris> kubota: then do dmesg | grep hdb
[09:16] <Chadarius> Unox: See that link for WifiDocs? link up there? Try that out
[09:16] <Chadarius> !ndiswrapper
[09:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:16] <kubota> cyris: information about the Maxtor HDD when doing dmesg | grep hda
[09:16] <Unox> 		Unox: I solved that problem by commenting out all devices in /etc/network/interfaces except for loopback. its my first time in ubuntu so you must be a littlemore spesific
[09:17] <cyris> kubota: how about dmesg | grep hdb ?
[09:17] <eternalswd> mindstate, does it come up when you open utorrent for the first time, or not even then?
[09:17] <steel_lady> eternalswd, which power supply?
[09:17] <brandon> unop: I'm trying to hit the main window manger, otherwise I could cheat with lirc but that only sends events to windows.
[09:17] <mindstate> eternalswd: not even then..just the icon shows up
[09:17] <Psy> evening all
[09:17] <kubota> cyris: When doing grep hdb it says ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
[09:17] <eternalswd> mindstate, is this an installed version of utorrent or a standalone executable?
[09:18] <mindstate> eternalswd: uhh, standalone
[09:18] <Chadarius> Unox: OK so you did get the card working then?
[09:18] <Krator> Hm. First time I try to install a program that's not in the package list. I've got a tar.gz file, how do I install something from that?
[09:18] <unop> brandon,  try what jrib suggested out -- if you are successful and if you feel like helping other people out, contribute to the wiki :)
[09:18] <Jerr|sd> anyone here have an nVidia RIAD system working with Ubuntu (I'm trying to get RAID5 to work)
[09:18] <Unox> havent done nothing yet
[09:18] <cyris> kubota: well, that wasn't as informative as I was hoping, try mounting hdb then
[09:18] <eternalswd> steel_lady, I'm just thinking that it sounds as if the sound card is losing power input, but I really have no idea.
[09:19] <Tsool> Hmm...new try :) Not exactly an Ubuntu-question, but maybe you can help. I have an extern USB-disk that was filled to the brim. I deleted one directory (with a DVD-image in it) to free some space. Oddly enough, the disk was still full. When I run df I get "/dev/sda1 240362656 234346464 0 100% /media/extern". If I read it correctly I have about 6G unused, but no free space. Where's the beef?
[09:19] <eternalswd> mindstate, what version of wine do you have?
[09:19] <dejx> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/network-manager-gnome
[09:19] <dejx> i need all this libs?
[09:19] <mindstate> wine-0.9.30
[09:19] <mindstate> eternalswd: ^
[09:19] <dejx> for network-maneger-gnome?
[09:19] <clearze2> kubota: You didn't have any luck setting the cdrom to slave then? What a pain
[09:20] <firefly2442> When I modprobe fglrx I get a fatal error, is there a log file somewhere that might give me more info?
[09:20] <eternalswd> mindstate, are you in gnome?
[09:20] <mindstate> eternalswd: yep
[09:20] <cyris> frjx: if you enable the correct repos apt-get will get it all for you. im not sure what repos tho, i dont remember
[09:20] <gop> hey if any here want to learn how to get ubuntu eddgy on a usb thumb drive
[09:20] <Psy> hey im trying to install proftpd, i run apt-get install proftpd and i get E: couldnt find package proftpd
[09:20] <gop> http://conedude13.blogspot.com/2007/01/linux-on-stick-part-ii.html
[09:20] <kubota> cyris: would that command be mount /dev/hdb
[09:20] <Psy> any ideas/
[09:20] <Krator> !Nederlands
[09:20] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[09:20] <gop> !talk
[09:20] <ubotu> talk: Chat with another user. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-11 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 88 kB
[09:20] <cyris> dejx: if you enable the correct repos apt-get will get it all for you. im not sure what repos tho, i dont remember
[09:20] <brandon> unop: willdo.  xvkbd won't work because it uses a gui only, I'm looking at xmacro now
[09:20] <Chadarius> Unox: check out this page to see what drivers to use for your dell wireless card
[09:20] <dejx>  <cyris> frjx: if you enable the correct repos apt-get will get it all for you. im not sure what repos tho, i dont remember
[09:20] <kubota> clearze2: no.. indeed.
[09:20] <dejx> but i cant go online in linux
[09:20] <Chadarius> Unox: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[09:20] <mindstate> Psy: maybe you have the wrong package name
[09:20] <dejx> and i dont have avaible cds
[09:20] <eternalswd> mindstate, do you get any errors if you open utorrent from the terminal?
[09:20] <dejx> atm
[09:21] <cyris> dejx: oh right, well, no idea then man
[09:21] <lgc> Hi! How do I reset the sound server on my Dapper?
[09:21] <mindstate> eternalswd: i havent tried that..let me see
[09:21] <gop> !offtopic
[09:21] <Psy> where can i look up the package name?
[09:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:21] <Unox> I've already done tha
[09:21] <Psy> i also downlaoded the tar.gz file,e xtracted that btu i cant seem to get it to install
[09:21] <cyris> dejx: unless all those packages are on the install cds
[09:21] <Unox> that*
[09:21] <mindstate> Psy: synaptic or do "sudo apt-cache search proftp"
[09:21] <kubota> cyris: would that command be mount /dev/hdb?
[09:21] <cyris> kubota: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom
[09:22] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib find anything?
[09:22] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: sudo apt-get update, then try:  gksu "update-manager -c"    again.  Same thing?  Are you being a proxy?
[09:22] <Psy> ran the search it returned nothing
[09:22] <mindstate> eternalswd: yes i do
[09:22] <Chadarius> Unox: So which card to the lspci command say that you had?
[09:22] <Comrade-Sergei> lol
[09:22] <Unox> I have tried ndiswrapper with the win2k and win98 drivers as it says
[09:22] <eternalswd> Psy proftpd is the correct package name.  do you have all your sources loaded?
[09:22] <mindstate> eternalswd:  libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[09:22] <Psy> sources loaded? :)
[09:22] <kubota> cyris: It says that /dev/hdb does not exist
[09:22] <eternalswd> mindstate, that the only one?
[09:22] <mindstate> eternalswd: actually no..let me pastebin
[09:22] <cyris> kutoba: dmesg | grep cdrom
[09:22] <cyris> kubota: brb
[09:23] <lgc> Hi! How do I reset the sound server on my Dapper? Help!
[09:23] <eternalswd> Psy, yeah, did you comment out any of the repositories?
[09:23] <kubota> cyris: okay
[09:23] <Chadarius> Unox: OK so once the driver is loaded does the ndiswrapper -l command list it properly?
[09:23] <Psy> eternalswd, i dont think so
[09:23] <mindstate> eternalswd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6443/
[09:23] <zzz_> kubota: try the following: dmesg | grep CD
[09:24] <firefly2442> Psy, under Synaptic, make sure you have the repositories checked
[09:24] <Psy> im in commandline
[09:24] <Unox> with the win2k it says its installed properly, not with the win98
[09:24] <eternalswd> Psy, did you try updating the sources?
[09:24] <Psy> i already installed ssh-server and that went fine - if that helps
[09:24] <Psy> no eternalswd
[09:24] <Tiako> Hey, anyone use Folding at home?
[09:24] <lgc> Tiako, yes.
[09:24] <Tiako> To check the status I have to find FAHlog.txt right?
[09:24] <Chadarius> Unox: Do you have the specific card name so I can see the doc that you used?
[09:25] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib?
[09:25] <Chadarius> Unox: The Windows 98 thing sounds strange to me honestly
[09:25] <lgc> Tiako, do you have it running?
[09:25] <Unox> if you mean the wirless card its dell truemobile 1180
[09:25] <Tiako> yes, its running as FAH_Core78.exe
[09:25] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: did you try what I suggested just now?
[09:25] <POVaddct> lol, this comic guy must know ubuntu: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sandwich.png
[09:25] <lgc> Tiako, let me check...
[09:25] <Chadarius> Unox: What broadcom chip set
[09:26] <Jrabbit> Hello
[09:26] <Unox> how to se that?
[09:26] <Comrade-Sergei> jrib yea and i sent you a pm
[09:26] <posingaspopular> POVaddct: yea he does
[09:26] <Jrabbit> How can I run a command that will copy text?
[09:26] <jrib> Comrade-Sergei: I mean "behind a proxy" not "being a proxy" by the way :)  I didn't get a pm, you have to be registered to send pm's
[09:26] <Comrade-Sergei> oh hold on
[09:26] <Chadarius> Unox: Have you followed the instructions on this page yet? http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[09:26] <lgc> Tiako, indeed. That is the file.
[09:26] <jrib> Jrabbit: xclip
[09:27] <Jrabbit> Thanks jrib
[09:27] <Tiako> I have tried a few things but I am new to linux and I seem to lose everything I install. I just know the program runs 24/7 and starts back up when I reboot
[09:27] <Psy> eternalswd, how do i update the repositories from command line?
[09:27] <Tiako> I can't seem to find the file though, my directory is empty
[09:27] <Jrabbit> bash: xclip: command not found
[09:27] <prodigel> hello. I'm having trouble configuring a small adhoc wireless network. there are only 2 computers with ubuntu installed on both also both have acer dongle with zd1211 chipet.
[09:27] <Jrabbit> Oh
[09:27] <mindstate> Psy: sudo apt-get update
[09:27] <Unox> I have done this yes Card: Dell TrueMobile 1180 802.11b Adapter
[09:27] <Unox> Other: Linux 2.6.15 i586 Fedora 5 on a HP Pavilion 6360 AMD K6
[09:27] <Unox> Other: ndiswrapper-1.24
[09:27] <Unox> Other: encryption mode used: WEP
[09:27] <Unox> usbid: 413c:8100
[09:27] <Unox> Driver: 1180 driver file is r51652 installed netdelus Win98 drivers. http://support.dell.com search for r51652 or 1180 USB english a newer driver is available in r56450 on the dell website and will be tried after a kernel upgrade.
[09:27] <Jrabbit> Install it
[09:27] <cacus> anybody could tellme why the network manager still freeze at the strart for a long time?? and i cant modify anyone of my interfaces...
[09:27] <Unox> Install notes: ndiswrapper -i NETDELUS.INF only installs the inf file, the other files in the W98SYS directory extracted with unshield must be manually copied to /etc/ndiswrapper/netdelus.
[09:27] <kubota> zzz_ nothing happens
[09:27] <jrib> !paste | Unox
[09:27] <ubotu> Unox: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:28] <lgc> Tiako, not that I know of. Every time I reboot my machine I restart FAH....exe.
[09:28] <kubota> zzz_ It just goes down to the next line
[09:28] <Psy> eternalswd updated - same error
[09:28] <rempresent> i got a question, i am trying to run world of warcraft in ubuntu, and everything was going swell, but i can't see the fonts in the installer, here is the pastebin of the errors in the terminal  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6444/
[09:28] <Tiako> Have you ever checked your status?
[09:28] <Tiako> I just want to make sure everything is working correctly so I am not just running my computer 24/7 for the hell of it.
[09:28] <trollboy> anyone done anything with ubuntu and mac integration?
[09:28] <prodigel> i've installed the original drivers using ndiswrapper and they seem to work. the actual problem si that they cannot pass on the same cell and also when hitting iwlist scanning no results are foung
[09:29] <Psy> shud i try putting the tar.gz i downloaded into a specific folder?
[09:29] <TubularBell> Hi... I just tried running Ubuntu for the first time - most of it went fine, and had great fun playing my first game of Solitaire on Linux. However - more than that seems impossible for now as I can't get online. Firefox says I should check my network connections, which only show a pppoe (hope I remember that correctly..) connection, which is not active. Any idea where I should begin looking...
[09:29] <TubularBell> ...for clues?
[09:29] <Chadarius> Unox: Try to put my user name in your replies to so I can see them easier :)
[09:29] <zzz_> kubota: It maybe that your cd drive was not recognized. Try the following: "dmesg | less" and look for a mention of hard disks (hda, hdb, etc) and cd drives.
[09:29] <trollboy> I'm having issues getting my shares to show up on mac
[09:29] <lgc> Tiako, do you mean on the FAH site?
[09:29] <zzz_> kubota: Scroll with the arrow keys in less.
[09:29] <mindstate> Psy: what happens when u try to compile it?
[09:29] <Flannel> !pppoe | TubularBell
[09:29] <ubotu> TubularBell: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[09:29] <Unox> Chadarius: better?
[09:29] <jorge_lopez> hello
[09:29] <zzz_> kubota: to exit type :q and press enter.
[09:29] <jorge_lopez> my nvdia doesn't work
[09:29] <kubota> okay
[09:29] <Tiako> Well, make sure it is sending and receveing work from the site correctly. I would just check my username but I picked a very common name
[09:29] <jorge_lopez> is toooo slow
[09:29] <Psy> mindstate, is that running make from within the extracted folder?
[09:29] <cacus> someone could help me with a network problem'??
[09:29] <Psy> im a linux nub :)
[09:30] <kubota> zzz_ I'll try it real quick.
[09:30] <Chadarius> Unox: So when you installed this did you manually put the driver file into the /etc/ndiswrapper/netdelus directory?
[09:30] <jorge_lopez> does anyone know how to solve it??
[09:30] <mindstate> Psy: its running ./configure make and make install
[09:30] <TubularBell> Thanks Flannel and Ubuty
[09:30] <lgc> Tiako, once you start FAH, you can pretty much forget about it. It'll run unobtrusively.
[09:30] <Unox> Chadarius: yes
[09:30] <_3uG_> hi.. does anyone know how to disable the update-notifier ? i can't seem to figure out how
[09:30] <Psy> ./configure did stuff
[09:30] <firefly2442> Do I need to rmmod the Mesa drivers after installing fglrx?
[09:30] <Tiako> But how do I know its working correctly?
[09:30] <Chadarius> Unox: You have the newer driver loaded up now though right?
[09:30] <Psy> make = command not found?
[09:30] <eternalswd> mindstate, not exactly sure why it's not showing up.  are you using the 1.6.1 stable that just came out?
[09:30] <Tiako> In windows it shows work completed
[09:30] <Zoffix> Hi, somehow my menu disappeared in Quanta Plus. http://www.zoffix.com/new/del/quanta.png I am missing those "File View Edit" etc.. anybody had that before/know how to fix?
[09:30] <TubularBell> Doesn't seem to be it... my setup is with a router, so I shouldn't need pppoe, as far as I can tell?
[09:31] <Zoffix> I am using KDE
[09:31] <mindstate> eternalswd: i downloaded directly from the site..today..so probably
[09:31] <TubularBell> (it's also not ADSL but Cable.. in case it matters?)
[09:31] <Chadarius> Unox: Does a card like eth1 or wlan0 show up when you run ifconfig?
[09:31] <Unox> Chadarius: not sure what you mean, but i tried it for both files yes
[09:31] <lgc> If you see the log grows: "Completed 850000 out of 5000000 steps  (17%)", "Completed 900000 out of 5000000 steps  (18%)", and so on, it is.
[09:31] <prodigel> hello. I'm having trouble configuring a small adhoc wireless network. there are only 2 computers with ubuntu installed on both also both have acer dongle with zd1211 chipet. i've installed the original drivers using ndiswrapper and they seem to work. the actual problem si that they cannot pass on the same cell and also when hitting iwlist scanning no results are found
[09:31] <Tiako> Also, isn't there a way to make a box use 100% of CPU usage to get more work done?
[09:31] <eternalswd> Psy, okay, proftpd is in universe, so in your sources list, you need to add it and then updated the sources again.
[09:31] <Flannel> TubularBell: correct, if you're setup via a router, the router does all the fancy connection stuff, as far as your computer is concerned, it's connected to magical-ethernet
[09:32] <Unox> if I understood that paste thing i'd give you it
[09:32] <Psy> ok, what about this make error?
[09:32] <lgc> Tiako, and, of course, you must be able to see the executable running with "top".
[09:32] <jorge_lopez> has anyone a geoforrce???
[09:32] <Dr_willis> Gforce?
[09:32] <Zoffix> Flannel, hey :) every used Quanta? http://www.zoffix.com/new/del/quanta.png I'm missing my menu :S
[09:32] <jorge_lopez> nvdia geoforce
[09:32] <Zoffix> s/every/ever/;
[09:32] <Tiako> Is there a way for me to change my user name?
[09:32] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[09:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:32] <mindstate> Psy: sudo apt-get install make
[09:32] <Dr_willis> its "Gforce" not GeoForce i belive.
[09:32] <Wibble-> hey - I was wondering if its possible to do a network install? I don't want to download 600mb for a CD when I'll only want a quater of it (its a server) but even ubuntu server is likely to have more than I want (given the size - probably things like email / web servers etc)
[09:32] <Tiako> Then I can just check my stats online
[09:32] <jorge_lopez> thanks
[09:32] <soundray> Tiako: your CPU works at 100% whenever it can. Sometimes it just has to wait for data, though.
[09:33] <Psy> ah :)
[09:33] <TubularBell> Flannel, I like the sound if that. It's not working though. How can I check whether or not my computer even realizes it's connected to the 'magical-ethernet' ?
[09:33] <lgc> Tiako, you can change the priority of the running process and get the whole CPU for FAH.
[09:33] <Tiako> Thats what I want to do lgc
[09:33] <Flannel> Zoffix: I don't have a GUI, so no.  Looks like you have a menuin that screenshot though
[09:33] <kubota> zzz_ I see mention of HDA, it says ide0.. The maxtor HDD is at hda.. I don't see anything about a CD-ROM drive
[09:33] <tanks> hello
[09:33] <Music_Shuffle> Hi.
[09:33] <cacus> someone could help me with a network problem'??
[09:33] <lgc> Tiako, then you must do a 'renice' as root.
[09:33] <Chadarius> Unox: So here are somethings to check. Is ndiswrapper actually loaded? in a terminal run "lsmod |grep ndiswrapper"
[09:33] <TubularBell> (the only thing I saw in network connections was the pppoe connection, where I could configure a modem. All nice and dandy, but I don't even have a modem... :/ So 1990's..)
[09:33] <Flannel> TubularBell: you'd be able to ping stuff on your LAN, get a DHCP, etc.
[09:33] <Zoffix> Flannel, I have a tool bar but not the "File View Edit" menu, that should be above the tool bar :S
[09:34] <Psy> ah ok so which file do i point make towards?
[09:34] <TubularBell> Tried ping.. no joy.
[09:34] <Psy> ls
[09:34] <zzz_> kubota: It looks like your cd rom drive is not being recognized by the kernel. I am sorry about that.
[09:34] <Psy> *wrong window
[09:34] <lgc> Tiako, are you going to be around in about an hour?
[09:34] <Tiako> Yeah
[09:34] <briguyd> i cant mount my cd or dvd drives, can anyone help me?
[09:34] <TubularBell> Also tried opening the IP of my router directly in FF, to see if it was a DNS issue, no joy either.
[09:34] <kubota> zzz_ So that means I'm out of luck?
[09:34] <Flannel> Zoffix: does right clicking up above on the right give you toolbars to add/subtract?  how about the arrow in the top left corner?  Those toolbars are movable
[09:34] <lgc> Tiako, it's supper time here and I MUST comply or else starve.
[09:34] <kubota> zzz_ With any linux distro?
[09:35] <tanks> how to creat simple c++ terminal program with anjuta ? i create correct source file, compile, but when i press execute it shows Program '/home/tanks/prog' is not a local file
[09:35] <Jerr|sd> is Ubuntu 6.06LTS better for RAID systems than 6.10?
[09:35] <Tiako> Im going to get some cake myself.
[09:35] <Wibble-> briguyd: Just swing yer legs over them and yer done.  But seriously, *why* can't you mount them? what happens when you put a CD in etc?
[09:35] <lgc> Tiako, OK, I'll see you around in a while.
[09:35] <Tiako> I will be on the rest of the day.. tr
[09:35] <Jrabbit> jrib: how can I specify the text to be copied witohut giving a file?
[09:35] <Tiako> Trying to find some projects for my box that has been sitting here forever.
[09:36] <nickreynolds> does anyone know anything about using samba as a windows primary domain controller?
[09:36] <eternalswd> mindstate, okay, you could try the version I'm using http://cs.wheaton.edu/~mbucy/files/utorrent.exe and see if it works.  if you are able to get it up, in the preferences, disable the system tray icon.
[09:36] <duckdown> Hey all... How can I foce a program that doesn't have built-in SOCKS firewall support to route all of its traffic through mine?  Like I have a SOCKS proxy listening on localhost:1234 , but Opera web browser has no SOCKS support (lame.)  I seem to remember a program like 'socksify' or something that you can prefix the program you want to run with
[09:36] <briguyd> Wibble-:  i put the disc in, and it does nothing, double clicking on the drive brings up an error
[09:36] <briguyd> Wibble-:  "mount: special device /dev/scd1 does not exis"
[09:36] <Wibble-> briguyd: ... which is what
[09:36] <rempresent> trying to install wow, here is a wine error that #winehq can't help me with
[09:36] <jrib> I think it reads stdin
[09:36] <rempresent> i got a question, i am trying to run world of warcraft in ubuntu, and everything was going swell, but i can't see the fonts in the installer, here is the pastebin of the errors in the terminal  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6444/
[09:36] <jrib> Jrabbit: I think it reads stdin
[09:36] <ernz> Hi - I have a problem not necessarily Ubuntu related. I am trying to format a disk to ext3. I have used GParted - But that keeps returning an unspecified error. Using something called parted I got the error: Warning: "You requested a partition from 32.8kB to 120GB. The closest location we can manage is 31.7kB to 31.7kB.  Is this still acceptable to you?" Can someone please help me out here?
[09:36] <hkn> does anyone know where firefox installs plugins/extensions, because i installed a kiosk extension and now firefox won't even load for the user and i want to uninstall the plugin.
[09:36] <vomito> qui est francais et qui peut mindiquer les fonctionnalit principau de UBUNTU
[09:36] <briguyd> Wibble-:  same with the other drive, but scd0 instead
[09:37] <mindstate> eternalswd: thanks ill try that
[09:37] <Unox> Chadarius: I don't seem to get anything when I write lsmod |grep ndiswrapper, or lsmod |grep ndiswrapper-1.8      since I'm using edgy
[09:37] <kubota> zzz_ Could I just purchase a new Cd-rom drive?
[09:37] <Dr_willis> ernz,  that almost sounds like the disk is bad..
[09:37] <ernst> #ubuntu-xgl
[09:37] <Wibble-> briguyd: ok - thats the useful bit.  I can't find the interface I was expecting that could help - gimme a few minutes
[09:37] <Dr_willis> ernz,  anything on the disk you are trying to save?
[09:37] <Chadarius> Unox: Ok well that is probably your issue. ndiswrapper isn't even loaded
[09:37] <briguyd> Wibble-:  ok, thanks
[09:37] <ernz> Dr_willis - It sounds like it, but it was working in a computer recently.
[09:37] <eternalswd> rempresent, what version of wine are you using?
[09:37] <Chadarius> Unox: in the terminal run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[09:38] <Unox> I installed ndiswrapper 1.8
[09:38] <zzz_> kubota: I am not sure... Maybe other distros could work.
[09:38] <jrattner> Question: How do i install the RADEON driver not fglrx?
[09:38] <rempresent> eternalswd:  i am going to say the latest one, but i am not sure
[09:38] <kubota> zzz_ okay. Do you have any recomendations for an older system? (p2)
[09:38] <ernz> Dr_Willis - No I am trying to format it to use it as a backup disk. I am not interested on any info on the disk - I just want to make it work.
[09:38] <Jerr|sd> Damnit
[09:39] <rempresent> eternalswd:  i just sudo apt-get install wine
[09:39] <rempresent> then an update
[09:39] <Jerr|sd> Hardware RAID doesn't work in Ubuntu or what?
[09:39] <Chadarius> Unox: then you can run dmesg and look at the last few lines to see if loaded correctly
[09:39] <cacus> someone could help me with a network problem'??
[09:39] <kubota> zzz_ I'm running 6.06
[09:39] <soundray> !language | Jerr|sd
[09:39] <ubotu> Jerr|sd: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:39] <kubota> zzz_ BTW.
[09:39] <TubularBell> Anyone else have an idea where I should look when Ubuntu can't connect to the net at all? Personally I get the feeling it might have something to do with my NIC not being recognized or something, but that's a wild gues.s
[09:39] <briguyd> Wibble-:  just so you know, the drives both work under a windows partition on the same machine
[09:39] <dejx> how can i download (in windows) the whole gnome libs and gnome-network-maneger and then mount partition in linux and somehow install it?
[09:39] <Music_Shuffle> Question, I burned a DVD, but on playback, the colors are all messed up. Anyone have any ideas?
[09:40] <ernz> Dr_Willis - Nothing to save.
[09:40] <Psy> TubularBell, i had that problem on my laptop
[09:40] <Psy> it showed as connected
[09:40] <Wibble-> briguyd: Hmmmz - the interface appears to be missing... perhaps its been removed in newer versions of ubuntu.  I can help, but its going to be tricky (command line editing of files)
[09:40] <Psy> but wouldnt actually do anything
[09:40] <eternalswd> rempresent, are you using the actual wine repository or are you getting it from the ubuntu repos?
[09:40] <TubularBell> Hmm.. where would it show that, Psy?
[09:40] <TubularBell> Psy: 'had
[09:40] <soundray> TubularBell: first thing to check is whether you have any interfaces when you open System-Administration-Networking
[09:40] <TubularBell> sounds very good..
[09:40] <briguyd> Wibble-:  as long as it works
[09:40] <rempresent> not sure, the version is 0.9.31
[09:40] <Psy> haha - no, i gave up
[09:40] <Psy> lol
[09:40] <TubularBell> Argh.. there go my hopes.
[09:40] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[09:40] <Wibble-> briguyd: its probably easier if I message you in private - are you happy for me to do that?
[09:40] <briguyd> sure
[09:40] <Music_Shuffle> Anyone? DVD color problems/help?
[09:41] <mindstate> How can i delete entries in the applications menu..totally delete..not just hide
[09:41] <TubularBell> Soundray: I'm making notes and will try it when I boot into Ubuntu again. Anything else I should look for while there?
[09:41] <nickreynolds> anyone ever use samba on unbuntu as a windows primary domain controller
[09:41] <mboso> I upgraded to feisty fawn. My ipod no longer mounts to /media/ipod. where can i change t his?
[09:41] <Unox> Chadarius: cannot see any texts like error
[09:41] <Flannel> mboso: #ubunut+1 for feisty support
[09:41] <rempresent> eternalswd:  the version is 0.9.31
[09:41] <Dr_willis> ernz,  ive had hard drives working.. then go 'click , click, CLUNK' and be dead. :(
[09:42] <Dr_willis> ernz,  while i was using the system. :()
[09:42] <mboso> ok. thanks
[09:42] <soundray> TubularBell: if your NIC is a regular Ethernet one, the interface name would be eth0. You could look through /var/log/syslog for any error messages relating to eth0.
[09:42] <Chadarius> Unox: OK so now run "ifconfig" and see if there is a new network card... probably an eth1 or a wlan0
[09:42] <nickreynolds> damn where is puff and trunkz
[09:42] <soundray> TubularBell: lspci might come in handy, too. It lists your PCI devices.
[09:42] <ernz> Dr_willis - It was during an Ubuntu clean install that this disk seems to have died. Does this make it Ubuntu's fault?
[09:43] <Unox> Chadarius: I see eth0 and lo
[09:43] <Dr_willis> ernz,  not really.
[09:43] <Zoffix> Flannel, nope, I've tried everything there, still missing the menu :S
[09:43] <eternalswd> okay, you're using the wine repos, so that should be good, not sure what the problems is.  maybe try in #winehq
[09:43] <Dr_willis> ernz,  drives die.. they are perhaps the most unreliable part of your pc.
[09:43] <Chadarius> Unox: Hmmm run "ndiswrapper -l" and tell me what it says
[09:43] <zzz_> kubota: I am sorry; I don't have any suggestions... If you were able to install from the CD then you should be able to access your CD. I am stumped...
[09:43] <Dr_willis> ernz,  you could try 'fdisk' and delete all the partitions, and have fdisk remake them.
[09:43] <rempresent> eternalswd: thx
[09:43] <TubularBell> Hmm. I already went to system - administration - networking on my first attempt... it listed one connection there, which seemed to be a modem (it asked for a phone # in it's advanced properties??), definitely not eth0. Perhaps it's relevant that my NIC is an on-board on my Asrock motherboard?
[09:44] <ernz> Dr_Willis - I would agree, but I think the disk info may just be corrupt. Is there a way I can diagnose the disk and maybe repair it?
[09:44] <Dr_willis> ernz,  you want to save the data on it? or just whipe it out?
[09:44] <kmaynard> onboard NICs generally work well
[09:44] <Dr_willis> ernz,  fdisk may be able to whipe it out.. or go hard core and use 'dd' to zero the drive.. or try some other disk whiping tools.
[09:44] <TubularBell> soundray: where can I find this lspci that you speak of? (sorry.. you're talking to a very clueless first-timer here.. don't know my way around yet)
[09:45] <TubularBell> kmaynard: That's encouraging to hear.
[09:45] <Unox> Chadarius: this is with ndiswrapper-1.8 for edgy   win2k which seemed to work: netdelus                driver installed, hardware present
[09:45] <NECIBEX> slm trk karde yok mu
[09:45] <soundray> TubularBell: it's a command line program, to be entered in the terminal (Applications-Accessories-Terminal)
[09:45] <ernz> Dr_Willis: Total Wipe out! :) BTW - Interesting error from fdisk /dev/hdb: "The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 238216.
[09:45] <ernz> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[09:45] <ernz> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[09:45] <ernz> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
[09:45] <ernz> 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
[09:45] <ernz>    (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
[09:45] <ernz> "
[09:45] <Jerr|sd> I think the gentoo people will be nicer than these Fox-news brainwasheed people
[09:45] <NECIBEX> slm trk karde yok mu
[09:45] <Jerr|sd> !spam ernz
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam ernz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <Chadarius> Unox: Did you run the "sudo ndiswrapper -m" command?
[09:46] <kmaynard> Jerr|sd, trolling?
[09:46] <Jerr|sd> !pastebin ernz
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin ernz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <ernz> lol - Dr_Willis - What you reckoning?
[09:46] <zzz_> !pastebin | erz
[09:46] <ubotu> erz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:46] <Unox> Chadarius: Adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[09:46] <eternalswd> mindstate, any luck?
[09:46] <ernz> Ya ya ya - soz all - pastebin from now on.
[09:47] <ernz> Dr_Willis?
[09:47] <TubularBell> soundray: What should I be looking for in the lspci output?
[09:47] <Jerr|sd> kmaynard: maybe the fact that I've been using linux for years and that the only reply I get it is someone who thinks "damn" is a bad word.
[09:47] <Unox> Chadarius: you asked for this earlyer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6449/
[09:47] <Chadarius> Unox: Sounds like you missed a whole bunch of the howto :). Run "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper" and then run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" and then try "ifconfig" again
[09:47] <Dr_willis> ernz,  if theres nothing worth saving on the hard drive.. use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/drive   >BUT BE CAREFULL<
[09:48] <kmaynard> Jerr|sd, take the day off...you'll feel better
[09:48] <gerald> what's the easiest xml parser to use out there?
[09:48] <soundray> TubularBell: a line that corresponds to your NIC. It will be a starting point for, e.g., web searches
[09:48] <Dr_willis> ernz,  a typo in that line = trashed system
[09:48] <jrattner> How do i "Spin" the cube in beryl?
[09:48] <jrib> jrattner: ctrl-alt-mouse
[09:48] <TubularBell> Alright. Well, see you all in 20 minutes and 2 reboots.
[09:48] <kmaynard> ha
[09:48] <ernz> Dr_Willis: my device is /dev/hdb - What would my command be to "zero" or rest the drive?
[09:49] <jrattner> Woah Beryl is the coolest thing none to man kind
[09:49] <Gigs> Hi, sometimes my tab completion in bash seems broken in Edgy.  Anyone else seeing this?
[09:49] <kmaynard> ernz, unmount it and fdisk it
[09:49] <soundray> Gigs: not really. What do you mean by "broken"?
[09:49] <kmaynard> Gigs, only when what i'm trying to complete aint there
[09:49] <ernz> kmaynard: It's not mounted and I am in fdisk atm.
[09:49] <Dr_willis>  ernz  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb
[09:49] <Gigs> soundray: it won't complete things I know are there
[09:49] <HoudiniMan> hi, I can't set my screen res over 1024*768
[09:49] <gnomefreak> Netbot45: are you done?
[09:49] <eternalswd> Gigs, not noticing, of course I'm using zsh ;)
[09:50] <jrib> !fixres | HoudiniMan
[09:50] <kmaynard> ernz, delete the partitions
[09:50] <Psy> eternalswd, whats the address for the universal repository?
[09:50] <ubotu> HoudiniMan: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:50] <Dr_willis> ernz,  thats a bit extreme... id see if fdisk can delete the partitions first
[09:50] <Gigs> ls -ld Scammer/
[09:50] <Gigs> drwxr-xr-x 2 jgiglio jgiglio 4096 2007-02-05 12:32 Scammer/
[09:50] <Wibble-> Is there any way to install Ubuntu over a network? I would love to just set it up and install it downloading things as I go rather than having to download a CD?
[09:50] <soundray> Gigs: try '. /etc/bash_completion' when that happens
[09:50] <mindstate> eternalswd: no ..no luck.,.same thing lol
[09:50] <Gigs> cd Sca(tab)(tab) nothing
[09:50] <Dr_willis> ernz,  also check the bios - see what sizes it says the drive is.
[09:50] <eternalswd> Psy, same for main, just use universe instead of main
[09:50] <jrib> !install | Wibble- have you checked
[09:50] <ubotu> Wibble- have you checked: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:50] <Dr_willis> ernz,  ive had a drive that had some issues and was getting reported tobe 2gb in size.. when it was 200 ...  controller on the drive messed up. = not fixable.
[09:50] <matze> !ntfs-3g
[09:50] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:50] <kmaynard> ernz, if you're running a gui look at gparted
[09:51] <kmaynard> !gparted | ernz
[09:51] <ubotu> ernz: gparted is gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "sudo apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:51] <Unox> Chadarius: those didn't do anything, and heres the ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6451/
[09:51] <nickreynolds> how would i find out if samba is on my unbuntu machine
[09:51] <dxdemetriou> I have problem with nvidia drivers even from apt even with official. After some time the gl don't work correct, and I don't know if it has to do with the xserver-xgl. the glxgears works 5 seconds, stops one and this repeats
[09:51] <Gigs> soundray: it's very intermittant, it's not consistant
[09:51] <kmaynard> nickreynolds, sudo apt-get install samba
[09:51] <Wibble-> jrib: I thought I had but when going there it is stupidly obvious :/ thanks for the help.
[09:51] <kmaynard> if it aint there it will be
[09:51] <nickreynolds> thank u
[09:51] <ernz> kmaynard - gparted is same use as choco teapot. It just says "An error occured" and then gives a pretty error icon :)
[09:51] <eternalswd> mindstate, does the tray icon appear for utorrent?
[09:51] <kane77> is "*/15 * * * * something" correct for crontab if I want to run something every 15 minutes?
[09:51] <amnesia> is there anything that can help if edgy doesn't see the SATA hard disk I want to install to?
[09:51] <mindstate> eternalswd: yes
[09:52] <kmaynard> ernz, hit it with a hammer
[09:52] <Psy> anyone know what the address for the universal repository is please?
[09:52] <Gigs> soundray: like sometimes it'll do it and no matter how much I mash tab nothing happens... I'll switch desktops and go back to it and it works, it's very strange
[09:52] <ernz> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.ca/362451   << Any help?
[09:52] <kmaynard> amnesia, try the alternate installer disk if you havent already
[09:52] <eternalswd> mindstate, if you click on it once or twice, does the window appear?
[09:52] <nickreynolds> can samba serve in place of a windows server primary domain controller?
[09:52] <kane77> how do I find out if cron is working?
[09:52] <soundray> amnesia: connect it to a(nother) PCI SATA controller
[09:52] <amnesia> kmaynard: no never had that idea. thanks I will
[09:52] <mindstate> eternalswd: doesnt matter how many times i click it..it never appears
[09:52] <ernz> kmaynard: I tried that. Now it doesn't work AND it makes a funny noise.
[09:52] <kmaynard> Psy, its already in sources.list...just uncomment it
[09:52] <eternalswd> mindstate, actually, not click on it, right click and hit restore
[09:52] <jrib> kane77: setup a cron job and see if it gets executed?
[09:52] <Dr_willis> ernz,  dd: writing to `/dev/hdb': Input/output error    is NOT a good sign
[09:53] <mindstate> eternalswd: ive done that too..nothing
[09:53] <ernz> Dr_Willis :- No?
[09:53] <kane77> jrib, I did, but it doesnt, so I was wondering....
[09:53] <mindstate> eternalswd: ive tried hide/show uTorrent also
[09:53] <Dr_willis> 32768 bytes (33 kB) copied, 3.9704 seconds, 8.3 kB/s
[09:53] <Dr_willis> it did 33Kb of data.. just like gparted was saying eh?
[09:53] <amnesia> soundray: yes that would help, looking for a solution though to use the internal sis chip
[09:53] <soundray> Gigs: have you got an intermittent hardware failure on your Tab key?
[09:53] <mindstate> eternalswd: maybe i should just use Linux BT Client? lol
[09:53] <Gigs> soundray: no
[09:53] <Chadarius> Unox: run the "lsmod |grep ndiswrapper" command again
[09:53] <dxdemetriou> anybody knows what can I do with the freaks of opengl with nvidia? It has to do something with the aiglx or xgl?
[09:53] <jrib> kane77: try something simple like  echo foo > /home/USER/bar
[09:54] <Chadarius> Unox: just to make sure its loaded again
[09:54] <kmaynard> amnesia, i installed dapper on a server with 2 sata drives in a raid 1 config using the server disk...the alternate disk is also offers more flexibility and is faster than the gui
[09:54] <marcel__> czesc
[09:54] <ernz> Dr_Willis: Gparted says nothing - Just "Error"
[09:54] <eternalswd> mindstate, don't know what else to suggest other than move over to fluxbox ;)
[09:54] <Psy> kmaynard, i read the bit where it says the uncomment the next two lines - but theres nothing there but more text saying software fromt his repos is blah blah...?
[09:54] <Gigs> soundray: it seems to happen mainly where there's a completion choice, I can reproduce it solidly in this directory that has 3 files that start the same
[09:54] <soundray> Gigs: have you tried my suggestion of re-sourcing bash_completion?
[09:54] <mindstate> eternalswd: thanks dude
[09:54] <Dr_willis> ernz,  could try to have gparted make 2 partitions.. one a few mb (perhaps a gb) at the start of the drive.. then the rest at the end...
[09:54] <Gigs> soundray: let me try now that I have a solid reprot
[09:54] <Gigs> soundray: repro rather
[09:54] <kmaynard> Psy, have you tried doing it in Synaptic?
[09:54] <cacus> someone could help me with a network problem'??
[09:54] <kane77> jrib, just to be sure I do it with crontab -e
[09:54] <soundray> Gigs: does that trigger the system bell?
[09:54] <jrib> kane77: right
[09:54] <Psy> i'm in cli
[09:55] <eternalswd> mindstate, actually, if you're not stuck behind a proxy like I am, you could try ktorrent, of course that means installing all the kde libs as well
[09:55] <amnesia> kmaynard: will check it out thanks
[09:55] <Gigs> soundray: I don't think so, but I've never heard system bell on this particular system
[09:55] <ernz> Dr_Willis: Good thinking.... I'll give it a shot
[09:55] <Dr_willis> ernz,  i wouldent trust that drive very much. ;
[09:55] <kmaynard> Psy, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[09:55] <Gigs> soundray: no resourcing the completion script didn't fix it
[09:55] <Psy> thanks
[09:55] <soundray> Gigs: you could try switching the visual bell on (Sys-Prefs-Sound)
[09:56] <ernz> Dr_Willis: I'm currently not very trusting of any drive that was once NTFS
[09:56] <Unox> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6452/
[09:56] <Dr_willis> ernz,  :) it pays to backup.
[09:56] <Unox> Chadarius: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6452/
[09:56] <kane77> jrib, it doesnt work...
[09:56] <Chadarius> Unox: well its loaded at least
[09:56] <Gigs> soundray: yeah it's flashing
[09:56] <jrib> kane77: what does your line look like?
[09:57] <kane77> jrib, * * * * * echo "foo" > /home/kane/bar
[09:57] <M3G4crux> hi to all
[09:57] <Unox> Chadarius: shall I not use ndiswrapper-1.8? and just ndiswrapper?
[09:57] <soundray> Gigs: but it should really list the completion choices for you at this point
[09:57] <ernz> Dr_Willis: Good job I have 500GB External USB 2.0  :)
[09:57] <eternalswd> Gigs, is there another file that ends the same as the one you're trying to tab complete?
[09:57] <Gigs> soundray: wait, has the tab completion been made REALLY smart now?
[09:57] <jrib> kane77: did you check for mail from cron?
[09:57] <Psy> nooo, still couldn't find package, repos list now includes universal too
[09:57] <kane77> jrib, how?
[09:58] <soundray> Gigs: quite so. Have a look at /etc/bash_completion
[09:58] <Gigs> soundray: if I do tar -xzvf S(tab)(tab) nothing, but if I do tar -xjvf S(tab) it starts to complete, they are bz2 files though
[09:58] <Psy> or universe or whatever it is called :)
[09:58] <Chadarius> Unox: wait a minute... can you do "dmesg |grep ndiswrapper" for me? I think there is something messed up here
[09:58] <jrib> kane77: I just use "mutt".  I don't really know much about it
[09:58] <Chadarius> Unox: in your last dmesg output I noticed that the ndiswrapper version was 1.22 or something
[09:58] <Gigs> soundray: so it's got crazy contextual logic now?
[09:58] <Dr_willis> Gigs,  ive seen some very amazing done tab completion on some disrtos. :)
[09:59] <eternalswd> Psy, not sure what to tell you.  Are you sure you're using official repositories?
[09:59] <Dr_willis> Gigs,  thers a package or 2 that really make it impressive
[09:59] <Gigs> Dr_willis: this seems to fall under "too smart for its own good"
[09:59] <Unox> Chadarius: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6453/
[09:59] <Psy> do i need to do an update?
[09:59] <Gigs> Dr_willis: I'd rather the shell tell me later on that I can't cd into a file than the bash completion just seem to fail :P
[09:59] <soundray> Gigs: comment out the last three lines in ~/.bashrc if you don't like the smartness of it
[09:59] <Dr_willis> Gigs,  well the tar 'j' option is only for bz2 files i thought.
[09:59] <Gigs> Dr_willis: correct
[09:59] <Gigs> soundray: heh k, thanks for your help
[10:00] <Dr_willis>  of course the - option iswnt needed for tar any more is it?
[10:00] <Chadarius> Unox: So how are you installing the newer ndiswrapper version? Did you compile a new one yourself?
[10:00] <jmazaredo> where can i find dhcp3 logs
[10:00] <Unox> Chadarius: Am i not supposed to write ndiswrapper-1.8 to use it?
[10:00] <soundray> Gigs: oops, that won't be enough... read the comments above.
[10:00] <kane77> what was the program to setup startup deamons/programs/services??
[10:00] <Gigs> soundray: I'll just learn to live with it I guess, now that I'm aware of it it shoudln't be too bad
[10:01] <Chadarius> Unox: I'm not sure what guide you are following but that doesn't make too much sense to me
[10:01] <mallox> hi all good people..can somebody told me how update my old kernel to new 2.6.20..I have problem with sound cards..thank very much.;)
[10:01] <Dwarfoo7> RNK
[10:01] <Dwarfoo7> RMK
[10:01] <soundray> jmazaredo: in /var/log/syslog -- it logs as dhcpd
[10:01] <rgibson> Hi all
[10:01] <Unox> Chadarius: I read somewhere that I needed ndiswrapper-1.8 for edgy, so I installed the three files
[10:01] <Chadarius> Unox: which three files?
[10:01] <mastermixer> hey people, how do i make it so that the 'computer' and 'home' icons show on the desktop?
[10:01] <jrib> !icons | mastermixer
[10:01] <ubotu> mastermixer: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[10:02] <RMK> Does anybody know how to replace the default mixer (alsa-mixer) by kmix?
[10:02] <soundray> mallox: no way, unless you upgrade to feisty (which is still alpha right now)
[10:02] <mastermixer> jrib, thank you
[10:02] <jrib> mastermixer: (there are options for "home" and "computer" in the same location)
[10:02] <soundray> mallox: well, you could compile your own:
[10:02] <Unox> Chadarius: ndisgtk_0.6-0ubuntu1_all.deb, ndiswrapper-common_1.18-1ubuntu2_all.deb, ndiswrapper-utils-1.8_1.18-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
[10:02] <rgibson> bcm 4813 wireless refuse to be detected
[10:02] <soundray> !kernelcompile > mallox, read the pm from ubotu
[10:03] <Chadarius> Unox: OK so how did you install those?
[10:03] <mallox> soundray: thanks..but I dont wanna to compile..It can cause bad end :))
[10:03] <nickreynolds> hey is there a free way to do a type of  free exchange server on linux
[10:03] <ernz> Dr_Willis: I am trying a format excluding the first 5gGB. System is very very laggy atm but no errors so far
[10:03] <ProtonBart> hey im new to ubuntu, is there any program or default program to search for wifi networks???
[10:03] <Dwarfoo7> RMK
[10:04] <soundray> mallox: feisty's release is scheduled for April. Not a long time away now.
[10:04] <Unox> Chadarius: they are deb files, so I double cliked on them and installed them in the correct order, don't remember that one
[10:04] <eternalswd> ProtonBart, NetworkManager?
[10:04] <nickreynolds> i am now running a free NT primary  domain controller
[10:04] <ProtonBart> im connected to one but you have to know the SSID to connect
[10:04] <ubuntu1980> how do i get broadcom wireless cards to work from a dell
[10:04] <TubularBell> soundray: Ok, I'm back. Results: Nothing related to ethernet in /var/log/syslog, except for some entries about registering protocols. LSPCI only listed a very long list of unknown nVidia devices.. which makes sense, since there's a boatload of nVidia devices on my mobo, including the NIC in question.
[10:04] <nickreynolds> now i want to setup an exchange server
[10:04] <Chadarius> Unox: I noticed that the version of ndiswrapper that is installed in your system is higher than those files already
[10:04] <rgibson> try wifimanager
[10:04] <dannutz> how can I change my screen refresh rate????
[10:04] <LjL> !fixres > dannutz    (dannutz, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:04] <nickreynolds> or something similar
[10:04] <_Freedom0_> Hello
[10:04] <ProtonBart> wheres WIFI manager????
[10:04] <Chadarius> Unox: so those files probably didn't install anything because version 1.22 is already installed
[10:05] <soundray> TubularBell: is it a very new board?
[10:05] <ProtonBart> wheres wifimanager
[10:05] <Unox> Chadarius: ok, please explain more
[10:05] <TubularBell> Relatively new.. It's the ALiveNF6G-DVI, by AsRock
[10:05] <mallox> sondray: ok..can you tell me please how to add some module to kernel?
[10:05] <Chadarius> Unox: were you following a howto or something?
[10:05] <kane77> how do I make cron work?
[10:05] <eternalswd> ProtonBart, you may need to install it
[10:05] <speedwolf> for anyone having problems with the Belkin F5D7051 USB Adapter I've just posted a how to here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2175921#post2175921
[10:05] <[DM-S] frieksk> eum
[10:05] <TubularBell> I think it's design is less then a year old..
[10:06] <ProtonBart> where can i get it???
[10:06] <[DM-S] frieksk> i can't add a package to synaptic
[10:06] <speedwolf> I hope it prevents anyone else wasting a weekend trying to make it work
[10:06] <[Tesser] > JOIN #RICEDOUTYUGO! IT'S THE BEST CHANNEL EVER! FETISHBOTS! WAREZ! ATOMIC BOMB PLANS!
[10:06] <TubularBell> Thanks for sharing, speedwolf! Don't have such an adapter, but it's nice to see people taking the trouble of documenting stuff.
[10:06] <rgibson> wifi manager @ www.soft32.com/download
[10:07] <Unox> Chadarius: Yes, point five https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper      followed it as good as I could
[10:07] <jrib> !ops
[10:07] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ?
[10:07] <ernz> Dr_Willis: It totally worked!!!!! - Man - That was pure genious
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[10:07] <soundray> TubularBell: I couldn't run edgy on a recent machine (Mac Pro), so I tried feisty on it. I know it's not recommended to use for production, but hey, my choice is not to use it at all with Linux.
[10:07] <eternalswd> ProtonBart, not sure as I don't use it, but you could try searching using synaptic
[10:07] <ernz> Dr_Willis: Thanks very much guy
[10:07] <soundray> TubularBell: so, while keeping in mind !worksforme, it might be worth trying that.
[10:07] <Chadarius> Unox: OK and you are running 6.10 Edgy right?
[10:07] <zzz_> kubota: Are you there?
[10:08] <soundray> !worksforme > TubularBell (private message from ubotu)
[10:08] <Unox> Chadarius: yes
[10:08] <mallox> is here somebody who has/had problems with Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)?!
[10:08] <zOap> how do I use memmxtest? I installed hwtools but command: memmxtest does nothing, just command not found..
[10:08] <Chadarius> Unox: You used section 5 in this guide?
[10:08] <enoxs> Hello everybody. I have a problem with my wpa supplicant, it says the format of the wep key i enter is not valid...??? I fill in the the like this xx:xx:xx:xx:xx, if i do something like xxxxxxxxxx, i have the same error.
[10:09] <TubularBell> soundray: Dare I say 'Eek!' ... I was hoping to just drop the CD in my drive and be ready to go. Oh well.. I'll give it a try. It's just an issue of downloading the ISO, burning it to a CD and follow same procedure as before, right?
[10:09] <DLB|Maximus> how do i check which video card driver i have installed?
[10:09] <dannutz> screen refresh rate... problem
[10:09] <LjL> DLB|Maximus: try  sudo lshw -class display 
[10:09] <Unox> Chadarius, yes since I use another computer for internet access, now I'm sitting on the problemed computer with ethernet cable though
[10:09] <soundray> TubularBell: yes. Make sure you use the most recent incarnation, Herd 4, and ask in #ubuntu+1 if you need help.
[10:10] <Chadarius> Unox: So the version you downloaded is version 1.8 not 1.18 if its from that guide. They don't seem to have installed properly. You said you clicked on them to install? Regardless. I would just follow section 4.
[10:10] <DLB|Maximus> LjL: that showed me some info but i dont see the driver
[10:10] <TubularBell> soundray: Just to make sure I end up with the proper image, would it be possible for you to give a link or filename?
[10:10] <Chadarius> Unox: much easier to do
[10:10] <LjL> DLB|Maximus: hm, it does for me. anyway,  grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf 
[10:11] <T-1> t
[10:11] <Unox> Chadarius: sorry I've used wrong command I think though OR?
[10:11] <furiozo> hi all
[10:11] <ProtonBart> anyone here know how to compile aircrack-ng in ubuntu, its a WEP cracking program
[10:11] <DLB|Maximus> LjL: ok, says ati, i take it thats the open source driver and fglrx is the closed source...?
[10:11] <soundray> TubularBell: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd4#head-084dad4c9e2cc8b31b49b0f497b2ddde4ba42b55
[10:11] <jrib> !info aircrack-ng | ProtonBart
[10:12] <ubotu> protonbart: aircrack-ng: Wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 460 kB
[10:12] <DLB|Maximus> LjL: thanks...
[10:12] <dannutz> can someone help... I can't change my screen refresh rate.... It's stuck at 85 :(
[10:12] <Unox> Chadarius: since the filenames are 1.18
[10:12] <jrib> ProtonBart: no need to compile, use the package
[10:12] <LjL> DLB|Maximus: yes, that is so
[10:12] <T-1> hey does anyone know why I can up with #riced
[10:12] <TubularBell> soundray: You have my gratitude...
[10:12] <T-1> why can't I join #ricedoutyugo
[10:12] <soundray> TubularBell: good luck
[10:12] <T-1> what's wrong with my thing
[10:12] <mastermixer> dannutz, have you tried editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[10:12] <kane77> how do I make cron work? because it doesnt now...
[10:12] <dannutz> yes
[10:12] <mastermixer> dannutz, be sure that your monitor frequencies are correctly specified there
[10:13] <ProtonBart> sorry not that familar with jargon, how do i use th package, its just source files
[10:13] <krasher> hey guys... i`m with problems... i had to rescue the win xp install in my machine and it erased my grub... now i`m using ubuntu live-cd and i don`t have a clue how i gonna bring Grub back to work...
[10:13] <T-1> I'm running ksirc and I want to join #ricedoutyugo and I type /join #ricedoutyugo
[10:13] <soundray> kane77: are you on edgy?
[10:13] <T-1> and nothing happens
[10:13] <dannutz> they are corect ...
[10:13] <Chadarius> Unox: Hmmm you are right
[10:13] <kane77> soundray, no, i'm on dapper... does that matter?
[10:13] <Chadarius> Unox: So how so you have version 1.22 on there?
[10:13] <soundray> kane77: yes, it certainly does...
[10:13] <Chadarius> Unox: weird
[10:13] <T-1> does anyone know how to fix my problem
[10:14] <T-1> c'mon I just wanna join #ricedoutyugo and it's not working
[10:14] <Unox> Chadarius: Is there any way that you can help me remotely? like remote help, remote deskop?
[10:14] <soundray> kane77: are you using 'crontab -e' to edit?
[10:14] <eternalswd> ProtonBart, you can install the package from synaptic, you don't need to compile the source.
[10:14] <Chadarius> Unox: are you connected directly over the internet?
[10:14] <nevron> anyone using sblive 24 bit soundcard?
[10:14] <Unox> CHadarius: yes
[10:14] <krasher> i`m kinda lost here...
[10:14] <TubularBell> soundray: Do I need the 64-bit when using an AMD Athlon XP 64X2, or can I just use the classic 32-bit? (I'm a bit 64-bit shy after having had to return WinXP 64 to the store due to essential software not working on it..)
[10:14] <Chadarius> Unox: No cable router then?
[10:14] <eternalswd> T-1, can you join anything else?
[10:14] <soundray> !upstart | kane77, this affects cron as well:
[10:14] <ubotu> kane77, this affects cron as well:: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[10:14] <T-1> obviously, yes, I'm in here
[10:14] <kane77> soundray, yes... I have set something like * * * * * echo "foo" > /home/kane/bar but nothing happens
[10:14] <Unox> Chadarius: with ethernetcable throug a router
[10:15] <eternalswd> T-1, other than this channel
[10:15] <__Ace__> how do I link with a static lib in ubuntu? I put the libglfw.a file in /lib, but doing gcc -lglfw ... doesn help here
[10:15] <rempresent> there isn't anyone in wine hq that can help, but does anyone know wine well enought to give me a guide, or something... here is the pastbin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6454/
[10:15] <Unox> Chadarius: I'm talking with you now, so with ethernet there's nothing wrong
[10:15] <soundray> TubularBell: 32bit will work, albeit slightly slower on numbercrunching tasks
[10:16] <Chadarius> Unox: Yeah its just that the right ports have to all be directed to your PC for me to remote it
[10:16] <spirithealer> hello people
[10:16] <Gremlin> hi
[10:16] <Unox> Chadarius: I can forward them
[10:16] <spirithealer> i'm noob on ubu! :)
[10:16] <spirithealer> i'm here to collect info
[10:16] <TubularBell> soundray: Not intending on doing anything of that sort.. most intense use this install will see is webapp development
[10:16] <LjL> !ask | spirithealer
[10:16] <ubotu> spirithealer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:16] <soundray> kane77: I don't know what the expected behaviour is when you use five '*'s
[10:16] <ProtonBart> eternalswd how do i install the package from synaptics??? please help, absolute newbie here
[10:16] <Unox> Chadarius: I'll forward every port for this computer, okay?
[10:16] <jrib> spirithealer: welcome, try to keep questions on one line to minimize traffic here :)
[10:16] <Chadarius> Unox: just foward them all to your PC. I think there is usually a setting to make your PC the main one yeah
[10:17] <spirithealer> ok
[10:17] <soundray> TubularBell: i386 is warmly recommended in that case
[10:17] <kane77> soundray, it should run every minute, right?
[10:17] <spirithealer> i have a lot of questions but i will ask the most important atm
[10:17] <nevron> how can i get alsa drivers?
[10:17] <krasher> hey guys... i`m having some problems here... i had to rescue the win xp install in my machine and it erased my grub... now i`m using ubuntu live-cd and i don`t have a clue how i gonna bring Grub back to work... anyone can help me?
[10:17] <TubularBell> soundray: Will do, then.
[10:17] <Chadarius> Unox: then we will switch to private messaging
[10:17] <jrib> !grub | krasher
[10:17] <ubotu> krasher: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:17] <spirithealer> could i ask someone in pvt
[10:17] <krasher> !grub
[10:17] <spirithealer> very hard to filter in this chat
[10:17] <Chadarius> Unox: no sense in letting everyone know your IP address etc...
[10:17] <soundray> kane77: maybe
[10:17] <kubota> zzz_ i'm here
[10:17] <jrib> spirithealer: just ask here
[10:17] <ProtonBart> lol
[10:17] <ProtonBart> thansk
[10:17] <ProtonBart> thanks*
[10:17] <ProtonBart> ubuntu is great
[10:17] <spirithealer> ok
[10:17] <nerdzyboy> Could anyone help me instal rt400 drivers (ralink wifi drivers) for ubuntu with kernel version 2.6.15-28-686?
[10:17] <TubularBell> Does anyone know how to teach Grub that despite having installed Ubuntu, I would still prefer having Windows as the default boot?
[10:18] <spirithealer> i'm trying to configure my nvidia kard on my acer aspire
[10:18] <soundray> kane77: anyway, I thought your problem might be upstart. I'm not really that good with cron. Please ask the channel again.
[10:18] <rempresent> wine error, can someone guide me, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6454/
[10:18] <kane77> soundray, ok, thanx...
[10:18] <spirithealer> now work prop, but i don't know if i have hardware acceleration
[10:18] <Gremlin> TubularBell: you should edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:18] <grogoreo> hi
[10:18] <spirithealer> i changed manually the xorg.config to "nv" driver
[10:18] <spirithealer> it's correct?
[10:18] <jrib> TubularBell: look for the line that specifies "default" in the file Gremlin mentioned
[10:18] <fouad> hi, i am facing a strange issue, i compiled svn with prefix=/root/usr/local and now apache can't run it (sudo -u apache /root/usr/local/bin/svn gives permission denied) although it is 755
[10:18] <Gremlin> TubularBell: if Windows is your 4 item in the grub list, you edit "default" to 3, in that file
[10:18] <Unox> Chadarius: I must first register here, I don't know how
[10:18] <TubularBell> Thanks Gremlin - is it self-explanatory once I'm in that file?
[10:18] <eternalswd> ProtonBart, open up synaptic and search for the program you want, find it in the list of results mark it for install and apply.  you may need to add repositories.  you may find it fruitful to peruse https://help.ubuntu.com/
[10:18] <grogoreo> would there be a need to have a VPN other than using SSH?
[10:19] <TubularBell> Aaah, alright. That sounds easy enough.
[10:19] <Gremlin> :)
[10:19] <spirithealer> .!mm!
[10:19] <spirithealer> it's correct!?
[10:19] <angel12> hey guys, ive got a huge problem with my networking. Whenever i try to apt-get something, i end up having to ping us.archive.ubuntu.com, or other repos just to get rid of 404 errors. now when i ping us.archive.com, ping shows a random url, like beryl.ubuntu.com
[10:19] <ProtonBart> wheres synaptic??
[10:19] <jrib> !nvidia | spirithealer
[10:19] <ubotu> spirithealer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:20] <daviey> angel12, is beryl part of your sources.list?
[10:20] <ProtonBart> found it
[10:20] <spirithealer> i tried
[10:20] <spirithealer> but x crash
[10:20] <assasukasse> hi, has anyone used checkinstall? why is so borked
[10:20] <angel12> daviey: in my apt sources?
[10:20] <daviey> assasukasse, how are you finding it borked?
[10:20] <jrib> assasukasse: what do you mean? how is borked?
[10:20] <daviey> angel12, yes
[10:20] <assasukasse> well, sudo make install works perfectly, sudo checkinstall hangs..
[10:20] <jrib> spirithealer: you need to provide more info.  What error did you get?
[10:20] <assasukasse> when it tried to build the package
[10:21] <angel12> daviey, yes, but how would that make it show up when im pinging a totally different address?
[10:21] <Elive_user94> Hey guys, I need some help, started a upgrade from Breezy to Dapper using the alternate cd and it's been running for like 2 hours + now
[10:21] <Stormstout> hello here
[10:21] <daviey> assasukasse, hmm your using checkinstall -D right?
[10:21] <assasukasse> daviey i tried both
[10:21] <Unox> Chadarius: are you THERE??????????????????????????????????????????????++
[10:21] <nevron> has anyone here setup a sound card using configure option nd-ca0106
[10:21] <daviey> Elive_user94, is it still doing something, or has it hanged?
[10:22] <angel12> Elive_user94: last i heard, upgrade still wasnt as stable as it should be, it fubar's installs
[10:22] <Stormstout> somebody using flumotion with ubuntu ?
[10:22] <elias_> how do i extract a rar file with .001 .002 .003 etc. ?
[10:22] <krasher> how i rescue grub using the live-cd?
[10:22] <Chadarius> Unox: Yeah looking for instructiosn so you can register
[10:22] <Elive_user94> it appears to be looping, doing the same stuff over and over but I'm not 100% sure
[10:22] <spirithealer> cannot find the device
[10:22] <Icehawk78> What would a recommended simple mail server for a server be that is fairly easy to set up and configure?
[10:22] <jrib> krasher: did you visit the wiki page ubotu told you about?
[10:22] <daviey> angel12, can you use pastebin to show an example?
[10:22] <angel12> elias_: those are parts of the rar file, get the program from www.rarlabs.com
[10:22] <daviey> !pastebin > angel12
[10:22] <Icehawk78> Elias: Just unrar the .rar file, and it should automatically read from the .001 .002, etc
[10:22] <jrib> !rar | elias_
[10:22] <ubotu> elias_: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:22] <angel12> daviey, for some reason it works now
[10:22] <spirithealer> gforce go 6100
[10:23] <ProtonBart> this synaptic hting is confusing
[10:23] <ProtonBart> lol
[10:23] <jrib> !synaptic | ProtonBart
[10:23] <ubotu> ProtonBart: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:23] <unperson> Hi, I'm trying to run a game and getting a "can't open /dev/dsp" error.  I thought I'd fixed this sort of error before with the command esddsp but now I can't find any such command.  How do I deal with this?
[10:23] <daviey> angel12, good o - let us know it it breaks again.  Sometimes doing two "sudo apt-get update" does the trick
[10:23] <rempresent> wine error, can someone guide me, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6454/
[10:23] <Icehawk78> What would a recommended simple mail server for a server be that is fairly easy to set up and configure?
[10:23] <angel12> daviey: yeah, i was trying to do that at the time lol
[10:23] <Unox> Chadarius: if it's to any help, I'm using Opera as IRC client
[10:23] <kane77> Feb 18 22:10:28 localhost cron[24924] : (CRON) DEATH (can't open or create /var/run/crond.pid:
[10:23] <kane77> Permission denied) What does this mean???
[10:23] <nerdzyboy> Could anyone help me instal rt400 drivers (ralink wifi drivers) for ubuntu with kernel version 2.6.15-28-686?
[10:23] <Elive_user94> I have never hgad successful upgrade on Ubuntu yet :(
[10:24] <Slio> Hello! I'm considering dual booting Ubuntu 6.06 on my system and I was wondering if it was 64-bit and compatibility with the Core 2 Duo CPUs.
[10:24] <jrib> kane77: check the permissions on that file
[10:24] <zzz_> kubota: You might want to start your computer from the live CD and see which modules are loaded using lsmod. You can then compare this list of modules to your installed system's lsmod listing.
[10:24] <ProtonBart> :-!
[10:24] <grogoreo> Icehawk78: when I was looking for the same I found nothing. Tried Hula but it never worked on Ubuntu so I tried the next, bigger step: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ it's working for me now
[10:24] <daviey> unperson, can you try cat /dev/urandom | aplay
[10:25] <daviey> unperson, it should produce white noise, press ctrl+c to exit
[10:25] <Unox> Unox: TEST
[10:25] <LjL> Unox: passed
[10:25] <Elive_user94> would 2 hours be a normal amount of time to do the upgrade??
[10:25] <unperson> daviey, Sorry, I don't understand the point of that.
[10:25] <Dextorion> hey
[10:25] <kane77> jrib, its 644 so rw-r--r--
[10:25] <daviey> unperson, i want to see if you can create sound
[10:25] <unperson> daviey, let me clarify, sound generally works on my system.
[10:25] <jrib> kane77: ownership?
[10:26] <Icehawk78> grogoreo: Is all of this really necessary to install a very basic mail client? I'm not going to be using the email for anything other than sending mail to it.
[10:26] <kane77> jrib, root
[10:26] <unperson> daviey, It's just this one particular program that works.
[10:26] <daviey> unperson, does it work as a user, not admin/root
[10:26] <Slio> Is Ubuntu 6.06 64-bit?
[10:26] <unperson> daviey, Yes.
[10:26] <daviey> unperson, would you mind testing it anyway?
[10:26] <jrib> kane77: hmm same here.  What does 'sudo invoke-rc.d cron start' do?
[10:26] <unperson> daviey, sure
[10:27] <william_> would someone tell me the permissions command...ie chmod...that would give read and write
[10:27] <daviey> jrib, the recommended way is cat /dev/urandom | aplay
[10:27] <daviey> sorry
[10:27] <kane77> * Starting periodic command scheduler... [fail] 
[10:27] <unperson> daviey, yeah, works fine.
[10:27] <grogoreo> Icehawk78: no, not all of it just if you want the extras (which I did). Postfix is good and I would also install support for IMAP with Courier. MySQL support is handy for easily adding new accounts, just follow what you like
[10:27] <daviey> jrib, the recommended way is sudo /etc/init.d/cron start
[10:27] <kane77> jrib, * Starting periodic command scheduler... [fail] 
[10:27] <Jrabbit> Know a good media palyer that supports commandline control?
[10:27] <jrib> daviey: why is that the recommended way?
[10:28] <unperson> daviey, As I say, most programs do sound output fine.  I think it's proabably something with OSS sound versus ESD.
[10:28] <Gerry_W> can I change the size of /media once I've already installed ubuntu?
[10:28] <Icehawk78> grogoreo: I've already got mysql. I really jsut want to set up a single account so that I can set up automatic posting to my WordPress blog.
[10:28] <Trixsey> Why does apt-get force install of recommended and suggested packages?
[10:28] <Jrabbit> Gerry_w: Yes but from Disc
[10:29] <Jrabbit> Trixsey: you need them for the program to run?
[10:29] <Gerry_W> Jrabbit: see, I went through the whole thing, but it seems like it'll overwrite all of my files
[10:29] <Tiako> lgc you back yet?
[10:29] <skev> anyone else have this looping problem before?
[10:29] <Gerry_W> Jrabbit: even if I choose not to format any partitions
[10:29] <ephesius> Gerry_W: you should be able to unmount /media then resize it in gparted
[10:29] <grogoreo> Icehawk78: ah so you really just want to send mail rather than receive it. You can use sendmail for this or just use an SMTP server (like Postfix).
[10:29] <unperson> daviey, Which is to say, I think I remember having similar problems with software in the past and solving it with the command esddsp (which would route the sound through esd), but I find no such command in edgy.
[10:29] <TubularBell> Is it also possible to extract the ISO to a partition and install from there? (reason: I just found out I ran out of blank CD's :/ )
[10:29] <jrib> kane77: you google for that error?  only thing I get is http://lkml.org/lkml/2003/11/14/110
[10:29] <Chadarius> Unox: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[10:29] <Gerry_W> Jrabbit: I never created a separate partition for /media
[10:29] <Trixsey> Jrabbit, recommended and suggested is not always necessary, as their names imply
[10:29] <Gerry_W> Jrabbit: just for /home
[10:30] <daviey> unperson, wait 1
[10:30] <kane77> jrib, just did search on ubuntuforums and got one thread...
[10:30] <unperson> unperson, Sure.
[10:30] <Jrabbit> Trixsey: Then apt-get remove them.
[10:30] <kane77> jrib, looking on it
[10:30] <Unox> Chadarius: shall i just write the text here?
[10:30] <Trixsey> Jrabbit, apt-get remove would remove my other package too.. Trust me, I've been trying for 4 hours
[10:31] <Jrabbit> Whats the package?
[10:31] <Chadarius> Unox: yeah the /msg stuff goes right to the server
[10:31] <Jrabbit> And why can't you leave it?
[10:31] <Trixsey> Jrabbit, eclipse, gcj
[10:31] <zzz_> kubota: Bye for now. See you tomorrow.
[10:31] <Trixsey> I don't want gcj
[10:31] <Slio> Ubuntu is compatible with AMD64, but is it compatible with Intel 64?
[10:31] <william_> help
[10:31] <Jrabbit> ok
[10:31] <daviey> unperson, if you run 'esd' does it return already running?
[10:31] <jrib> kane77: see if you can invoke-rc cron stop
[10:31] <Unox> Chadarius: so noone here will see it?
[10:31] <ephesius> Unox: make sure you do /msg or else whatever password you set will show up here
[10:31] <nevron> people i need help setting up alsa with snd-ca0106 drivers can anybody help me out
[10:31] <Jrabbit> Trixsey: Then apt-get remove gcj ?
[10:31] <Chadarius> nope
[10:31] <Trixsey> and apt-get shouldn't be constructed so that it forces recommended/suggested packages
[10:31] <william_> would someone tell me the permissions command...ie chmod...that would give read and write
[10:31] <Trixsey> Jrabbit, apt-get remove gcj removes Eclipse too
[10:31] <jrib> !permissions | william_
[10:31] <ubotu> william_: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:31] <Chadarius> Unox: nope... the /msg command sends it direct to nickserv
[10:31] <unperson> daviey, Yes, it does.
[10:32] <kane77> jrib, yes, I just restarted it, but its still not working...
[10:32] <Jrabbit> Trixsey: Whats the problem?
[10:32] <Icehawk78> grogoreo: Actually, I think I need just the opposite - I'm hosting the Wordpress myself, so I just need to recieve and *not* send it (ie I need to set up pop for myself)
[10:32] <jrib> kane77: does 'ps -ef | grep cron
[10:32] <Icehawk78> Sorry bout the color.
[10:32] <jrib> kane77: does 'ps -ef | grep cron' show cron?
[10:32] <kane77> jrib, yes
[10:33] <jrib> kane77: and still no mail from the cron daemon?
[10:33] <daviey> unperson, try sudo apt-get install esound-clients  ;  then when you run the game run "esddsp tuxracer"  (example)
[10:33] <kane77> jrib, /var/mail/kane: No such file or directory (errno = 2)
[10:33] <kane77> jrib, that's what I get from mutt...
[10:33] <unperson> daviey, Ah, thanks!  Yeah, I just didn't know what package had esddsp.
[10:34] <grogoreo> Icehawk78: ah I see, I thought you were sending emails to Wordpress. Postfix will do this
[10:34] <nerdzyboy> Could anyone help me instal rt400 drivers (ralink wifi drivers) for ubuntu with kernel version 2.6.15-28-686?
[10:34] <daviey> unperson, np
[10:34] <nevron> i need ALSA SBLive 24bit USB howto for ubuntu
[10:35] <Gerry_W> Jrabbit: so, even though I haven't created a separate partition for /media, I can still do this?
[10:35] <jrib> kane77: that's pretty strange, it usually mails you if it had a problem executing the command.  Has cron ever worked?
[10:35] <Jrabbit> Gerry_W: You shouldd
[10:35] <daviey> nevron, doesn't it *just work*?
[10:36] <kane77> jrib, not sure... (i think it did, but Im not sure if it was on this computer...)
[10:36] <Gerry_W> Jrabbit: ok, thanks
[10:36] <nevron> daviey it just doesnt work )
[10:36] <andreseso> hello, I got another ubuntu PC on my home network.  I want to allow that pc to connect to my X server.  How do I go about doing this?
[10:36] <daviey> nevron, if google didn't help; lets try here.  Can you tell me what "lsusb" returns when typed into the console?
[10:37] <jrib> kane77: does putting stuff in /etc/crontab work?
[10:37] <daviey> anders_home, XDMCP
[10:37] <nevron> daviey should i pastebin it
[10:37] <daviey> !XDMCP | anders_home
[10:37] <ubotu> anders_home: xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[10:37] <wezzla> hi folks
[10:37] <kane77> jrib, yes it does.. I put it there, save it and quit, but stuff dont get executed...
[10:37] <medic30420> so, i am running dapper (gcc-4.0.1) and want to install gcc-4.1.2 to the box as a distcc server.  do i have to compile from source? or can i use a package? will that remove my old gcc?
[10:37] <daviey> nevron, hmm yes if more than 3 lines
[10:38] <unperson> daviey, Well, thanks, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to have worked in this case.
[10:38] <daviey> unperson, that is a shame
[10:38] <unperson> daviey, But you did tell me what I wanted to know.
[10:38] <nevron> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6463/ here it is daviey
[10:38] <Unox> Chadarius: I've written : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6464/ but don't know how to log on
[10:38] <wezzla> could someone help a newbe to get my wifi working
[10:38] <daviey> unperson, does dmesg give any clues?
[10:38] <medic30420> wezzla, what card do you have?
[10:39] <unperson> daviey, Yeah.  I see that others have gotten this software (Enemy Territories) working, but their method doesn't seem to work for me.
[10:39] <nevron> daviey if you could read the first post i would appreciate it i started athread about my problem
[10:39] <nevron> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2161769#post2161769
[10:39] <jrib> kane77: hmm well I'm out of ideas, try here again later or go to the mailing list and forums.  good luck, hope you sort it out
[10:39] <wezzla> medic: i dont know. but i think i had prism drivers for xp
[10:39] <benix_> Bonsoir.
[10:39] <daviey> nevron, presumably if you remove the sb-usb then "Creative Technology, Ltd " dissppears from lsusb?
[10:39] <Chadarius> Unox: just send /msg nickserv identify YOURPASSWORD
[10:39] <Tiako> Hey, I installed FAH and its running but I can't find the directory all the files are in.
[10:40] <kane77> jrib, ok, thanx
[10:40] <benix_> french is here ?
[10:40] <nevron> let me try
[10:40] <jrib> !fr | benix_
[10:40] <wezzla> medic: yepp...for ubuntu aswell. but how do i see in the device manager if the device is working?
[10:40] <ubotu> benix_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:40] <Music_Shuffle> !fr
[10:40] <medic30420> wezzla: lspci and look at the output for your card
[10:40] <Music_Shuffle> Pssh. I lose again :(
[10:40] <benix_> ok merci beaucoup :)
[10:40] <wezzla> medic: im a total newbe, i dont know what lspci is
[10:41] <nevron> it doesnt return anything it kind of hangs
[10:41] <unperson> daviey, A lot of stuff about bad mmap offset.
[10:41] <Unox> Chadarius: doesn't work, I get all written in another tab, but when I try talking private to you it doesn't work
[10:41] <nevron> and ctrl+c doesnt help
[10:41] <medic30420> open up a shell, and type 'lspci'
[10:41] <daviey> unperson, what game is it?
[10:41] <unperson> daviey, Wolfenstein Enemy Territories.
[10:41] <daviey> !lspci | wezzla
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <Chadarius> Unox: you probably just need to logout and back in again. Use your new password in your client to register automatically
[10:42] <nevron> i replugged the device and now lsusb doesnt return anything :)
[10:42] <daviey> wezzla, it lists the PCI cards inside the computer.  Like lsusb lists the usb devices
[10:42] <daviey> nevron, did you give it a little while?
[10:43] <nevron> i am doing it but also the devices leds went down they are not flashing or anything
[10:43] <nevron> i may have to reboot
[10:43] <skev> Hey guys, just a little advice if someone could please
[10:43] <wezzla> medic/davuiy: Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow]  (rev 01)
[10:43] <daviey> !ask | skev
[10:43] <ubotu> skev: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:43] <Brandon__> can anyone do my homework
[10:43] <daviey> Brandon__, yes
[10:44] <RMK> how can you define an application to automatically launch on start up in gnome ?
[10:44] <Brandon__> hurrah
[10:44] <Unox> Chadarius: nope
[10:44] <thcmonkey> this sucks, beryl won't work for me :(
[10:44] <AlexC_> RMK: System->Pres->Session
[10:44] <bruenig> RMK, system>preferences>sessions go to the startup commands tab
[10:44] <nevron> daviey i am restarting to get the device back alive is it ok
[10:44] <skev> Ok, trying to upgrade from Breezy to Dapper using the burned cd method, been running more that 2 hours
[10:44] <daviey> nevron, reboot and when you return try "ls /dev/dsp" and tell me if it returns more than one thing
[10:44] <AlexC_> RMK: System->Prefs->Session I mean :P
[10:44] <DLB|Maximus> anyone here running beryl know how exactly your supposed to enter the info for gnome sessions? is it supposed to be beryl emerald --replace all in the same entry or what?
[10:44] <AlexC_> beryl-manager ?
[10:44] <RMK> thanks AlexC_ and bruenig :)
[10:44] <bruenig> DLB|Maximus, #ubuntu-effects
[10:44] <skev> seems to be looping from what I can tell
[10:44] <daviey> Brandon__, *EVERYBODY* can do your homework ;)
[10:45] <skev> but not 100% sure
[10:45] <medic30420> DLB|Maximus: i use beryl-manager and beryl
[10:45] <william_> I'm trying to understand the basics about samba....
[10:45] <william_> I'm new to linux....
[10:45] <Brandon__> everybody do my homework ;)
[10:45] <daviey> william_, whadya wanna know?
[10:45] <william_> does samba work like windows file sharing?
[10:45] <daviey> william_, yes
[10:45] <RMK> AlexC_,  bruenig : and how do you remove a programm which is not in that list ? (i mean the alsa-mixer frontend for isntance)
[10:45] <skev> should I let it run, is this a normal amount of time? Or will yet another upgrade attempt hose my system...again
[10:46] <DLB|Maximus> medic30420: check your pm please
[10:46] <william_> so once i have it setup...i can drag and drop files from windows to edgy?
[10:46] <Unox> Chadarius: it doesn't work
[10:46] <daviey> william_, yes
[10:46] <Chadarius> !register
[10:46] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:47] <skev> If anyone can tell me what I should do I would be really grateful
[10:47] <william_> is samba alot of work to setup for a newbee?
[10:47] <Chadarius> Unox: Try that link
[10:47] <daviey> !samba | william_
[10:47] <bruenig> !samba | william_
[10:47] <ubotu> william_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:47] <sigger2> william_, yep, but don't forget about permissions.  pretty easy to set up
[10:47] <sigger2> www.samba.org
[10:47] <tanks> how to creat simple c++ terminal program with anjuta ? i create correct source file, compile, but when i press execute it shows Program '/home/tanks/prog' is not a local file
[10:47] <nevron> daviey was this the command? ls /dev/dsp
[10:47] <daviey> william_, it's as easy as windows.  Once installed you can right click, and share
[10:47] <daviey> nevron, yes
[10:47] <nerdzyboy> Could anyone help me instal rt400 drivers (ralink wifi drivers) for ubuntu with kernel version 2.6.15-28-686?
[10:48] <Thug-N-Me> can anyone please help me mounting a nfs share ? i am able to mount the shared dir on pc 1 from pc 2 (10.0.0.12) but i am not able to mount the share on pc 2 from pc one (10.0.0.6) any idea why it failed ? no errors given
[10:48] <nevron> ok i have no such file or directroy :)
[10:48] <wezzla> daviey: is the network name case sensitive?
[10:48] <thcmonkey> anyone else got a rage 128 pro?
[10:48] <daviey> wezzla, don't know
[10:48] <sigger2> Thug-N-Me, you ran exportfs -ra on both machines
[10:48] <Unox> Chadarius: shall I replace nickserv with my nick?
[10:48] <andreseso> daviey: so basically I have to put Enable=true in the [xdmcp]  section of /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf-custom and restart gdm
[10:48] <user01> what does ekiga do exactly?  l looked at the features and it was a long list of protocols
[10:48] <daviey> anders_home, STOP
[10:48] <guerrillawon> Does anyone know how I might run Redhat .run files?
[10:48] <Thug-N-Me> sigger2 run sudo exportfs -ra  on both machines ?
[10:49] <Icehawk78> Holy cow, Courier-IMAP is  more than just a bit confusing
[10:49] <Thug-N-Me> sigger2 exportfs: /etc/exports [1] : No 'sync' or 'async' option specified for export "10.0.0.12:/home/thug/DONE". Assuming default behaviour ('sync').
[10:49] <bruenig> guerrillawon, .run files aren't for redhat are they?
[10:49] <speedwolf> how do I share folders and drives between ubuntu and windows pcs?
[10:49] <Chadarius> Unox: No nickserv is the server... you have to have that
[10:49] <bruenig> guerrillawon, just do ./whatever.run
[10:49] <Unox> Chadarius: can you see my e-mail, cause if you can, plz send me an email insted
[10:49] <nevron> daviey any suggestions?
[10:49] <guerrillawon> They are, but is there anyway to maybe alien them or run them under ubuntu?
[10:50] <Chadarius> Unox: just replace the stuff in <> with your own stuff
[10:50] <daviey> anders_home, you can, or you can use gnome's "login window" settings
[10:50] <bruenig> guerrillawon, are you talking about rpm?
[10:50] <user01> user01: is ekiga like vonage?
[10:50] <Antonio_Carlos_M> hi
[10:50] <Antonio_Carlos_M> can i get some help
[10:50] <mlalkaka> i'm trying to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu. i've installed the kubuntu-desktop package. how do i uninstall all the ubuntu-desktop stuff that i don't need now?
[10:50] <guerrillawon> No, filename.run files
[10:50] <bruenig> guerrillawon, iirc .run files are not redhat
[10:50] <daviey> !samba | speedwolf
[10:50] <ubotu> speedwolf: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:50] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i need libc6 version 2.4.1
[10:51] <Thug-N-Me> sigger2 thats what i get while i run sudo exportfs -ra on pc one which is 10.0.0.6 . /etc/exports looks like this /home/thug/DONE 10.0.0.12(rw) what am i doing wrong ?
[10:51] <unperson> daviey, oookkaayyy...well now it's mysteriously working without esddsp.  I have NO idea what changed.  In any case, thanks for your help.
[10:51] <Antonio_Carlos_M> but i cant find it anywhere
[10:51] <daviey> nevron, and lsusb shows it?
[10:51] <Icehawk78> !courier-imap | myself
[10:51] <ubotu> myself: courier-imap: Courier Mail Server - IMAP server. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.1.1-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 560 kB, installed size 1536 kB
[10:51] <nevron> yes it does
[10:51] <rempresent> wine error, can someone guide me, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6454/
[10:51] <bruenig> guerrillawon, link to this .run file
[10:51] <unperson> daviey, I'm going to say a wizard did it.
[10:51] <daviey> unperson, it's the 'rats inside your computer' ;)
[10:51] <Quintin> hi2u frends
[10:51] <Quintin> Is anything stupid going to happen if I do a dist-upgrade?
[10:51] <guerrillawon> the file is et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[10:52] <daviey> unperson, thats why we shouldn't use wizards, stick to cli .   ;)
[10:52] <Quintin> a week ago or so there was a hubbub about a kernel update
[10:52] <unperson> daviey, Their hamsters, and I refer to it as a "power supply" thank you very much.  :-)
[10:52] <daviey> Quintin, from what release?
[10:52] <Quintin> daviey: 610
[10:52] <OuZo> hi all, i have AIGLX sort of working, i want to know what format the skydome image should be & what size? thanks
[10:52] <guerrillawon> I think they are formatted for redhat but was hoping there was some sort of conversion tool for me to use to run them under Ubuntu.
[10:52] <Quintin> OuZo: /join #beryl
[10:52] <bruenig> guerrillawon, yeah, just type the path to that, it should run
[10:52] <OuZo> Quintin: thanks
[10:52] <Ulti2001> hello
[10:53] <Ulti2001> guys
[10:53] <Ulti2001> i got a question
[10:53] <Thug-N-Me> sigger2 thanks :)
[10:53] <hkn> howcome if root makes a file in a regular user's directory the user can delete it?
[10:53] <Ulti2001> i was playing with beryl and change a bunch of files
[10:53] <Ulti2001> i think i change my video driver to something wrong
[10:53] <daviey> !rpm | guerrillawon
[10:53] <guerrillawon> No goi bruenig, you mean ./...?
[10:53] <ubotu> guerrillawon: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[10:53] <Ulti2001> and now i can't load beryl
[10:53] <LjL> hkn: because deleting files is controlled by the permissions of the *directory* containing said files
[10:53] <Ulti2001> but i get an error when updating video driver now
[10:53] <OuZo> Quintin: is it on this same server?
[10:53] <daviey> Ulti2001, try #ubuntu-effects
[10:53] <Ulti2001> it tell me stabl/binary-i386/Packages could not be found
[10:53] <Quintin> OuZo: ... yes.
[10:53] <hkn> LjL: how do i fix this?
[10:53] <bruenig> guerrillawon, if you are in the same directory, ./whatever.run should work, if you are not typing the full path to it should work
[10:53] <Ulti2001> when i run get-apt
[10:53] <guerrillawon> Ahhh I see ubotu, I'll look for maybe a different distribution?
[10:54] <Ulti2001> i don't think this is a beryl problem
[10:54] <Quintin> Ulti2001: What is your video driver?
[10:54] <Thug-N-Me> anyone please help me mounting a nfs share .. i am able to mount the share from pc 2 on 1 but not from pc 1 on 2 .... it failed thats all the errors i get
[10:54] <LjL> hkn: basically, when a file is "deleted", only its filesystem entry is deleted. think of directories as "files that contain list of files"... you delete an entry from the list, and there you have deleted a file
[10:54] <Ulti2001> Geforce4 MX 4000
[10:54] <bruenig> guerrillawon, rpm is not .run
[10:54] <Quintin> Ulti2001: that's your video card.  what is the driver?
[10:54] <eternal_p> good afternoon all....I'm hoping someone can help me...it seems with edgy eft that on bootup my system 'hangs' for about 30 seconds, just before the ipv6 blacklist comes on the screen....any idaes how I can fix this, thanks
[10:54] <Quintin> daviey: ...?
[10:54] <Ulti2001> nv
[10:54] <LjL> hkn: you either change the directory's permissions so that only root has +w, or you set the "sticky" bit, which is a particular bit that specifically controls *permission to delete files*
[10:54] <Ulti2001> not nvida
[10:54] <Ulti2001> nvidia
[10:54] <LjL> !permissions >hkn
[10:54] <Quintin> Ulti2001: fix that then
[10:54] <daviey> Quintin, it's fine
[10:55] <guerrillawon> I know but I'm sure .run is a redhar format, my ubuntu is trying to decompress the archive and of course having trouble.
[10:55] <Quintin> daviey: k
[10:55] <nevron> Ulti2001 are you using nv legacy drivers?
[10:55] <daviey> Quintin, but why do you want to?
[10:55] <bruenig> guerrillawon, I am sure it is not
[10:55] <Ulti2001> yea i think so
[10:55] <OuZo> Quintin: thanks got it
[10:55] <Ulti2001> should i change that to nvidia
[10:55] <Quintin> guerrillawon: uh, .run is a file extension.
[10:55] <nevron> i am not sure but there was a list in the ubuntu forums
[10:55] <Quintin> guerrillawon: it can be *anything*.  usually it's unix executable installers
[10:56] <LjL> hkn: well, well, that page doesn't actually mention the sticky bit yet. it can be set using the "+t" argument in chmod, at any rate
[10:56] <nevron> you can see which drivers you are using by making a search under synaptic
[10:56] <bruenig> guerrillawon, maybe you need to do sudo ./whatever.run
[10:56] <guerrillawon> hmm ok, I'm having trouble running it, and a search suggested it was a redhat formatted archive. I'll look deeper then.
[10:56] <daviey> guerrillawon, Linux doesn't care about extensions
[10:56] <hkn> LjL: i think im just going to change the owner of the directory to root:users and give users rx access only
[10:56] <hkn> LjL: will that solve it?
[10:56] <guerrillawon> Bruenig that is definately not working.
[10:56] <bruenig> guerrillawon, is it executable?
[10:56] <LjL> hkn: if that suits your purposes... it depends. if users should be allowed to *create* files in that directory, that won't do it
[10:57] <bruenig> guerrillawon, chown +x whatever.run
[10:57] <Ging> does ubuntu have a cd burner?
[10:57] <Polysics> hi all!
[10:57] <root> Ciao a tutti
[10:57] <daviey> guerrillawon, you need to chmod +x *.run
[10:57] <bruenig> Ging, yes
[10:57] <LjL> hkn: what sort of directory is it, and how should users be allowed to interact with files?
[10:57] <Quintin> Ging: about 20
[10:57] <LjL> !it | root
[10:57] <ubotu> root: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:57] <Polysics> why isn't ruby 1.8.5 around yet?
[10:57] <hkn> LjL: no, its a public account, so denying them the ability to write is just bonus
[10:57] <LjL> root: IRC as root is dangerous
[10:57] <krasher> hey guys, somebody can help me? i used the GRUB rescue howto from Ubuntu site and now i can`t even access my windows instalation... i`m in ubuntu live-cd and i decided to reinstall ubuntu... but i have to save some files... anyone know how i mount a usb pendrive when running the live cd?
[10:57] <guerrillawon> Ok I'll give it a shot.
[10:57] <m`kay> hi guys.  if i installed ubuntu 6.06, i have to give the parameters nopaic acpi=off pci=bios usb=bios. after install i can delete nopaic and acpi=off from menu.lst in grub, because the pc will not turn off by shutting down. but i have forget noapic by install and cant delete acpi=off, because it will not find my hardware on pci/agp. if i let acpi=off in it, it will not turn off after shutdown
[10:57] <Quintin> krasher: plug it in
[10:57] <LjL> hkn: ok - note, though, you'll only deny the ability to *create files*; they'll still be able to write to *existing* files, if they have +w on those files
[10:58] <Polysics> am i missing some packages? i'm getting weird rails errors after the upgrade, i could really use ruby 1.8.5
[10:58] <krasher> but how i acces it Quintin?
[10:58] <Okita> By convention, does everything installed via apt-get go into /usr/share ?
[10:58] <Quintin> krasher:  .. ? file manager ?
[10:58] <LjL> Okita: of course not.
[10:58] <guerrillawon> Ok the chmod seemed to work.
[10:58] <krasher> it doesn`t show up!
[10:58] <Quintin> krasher: look in dmesg
[10:58] <norty> when im using the gdb, how do I set it up so that everytime I use the command: stepi, it will display the contents of all the registers and if a register has an address as its contents it will also display the contents of that address?
[10:58] <LjL> Okita: it mostly goes to various places inside /usr (not exclusively anyway), but that also includes /usr/bin, /usr/lib...
[10:58] <nevron> daviey is there a way for me to get this soundcard running the strange thing is that when i log in the sound for the log in event plays quiet well but after that i cant get any sound form the box
[10:59] <Ulti2001> Quintin: Thanks
[10:59] <LjL> Okita:  dpkg -L packagename  will give you the full list of files that a package contains
[10:59] <Giogionni> ciao
[10:59] <krasher> [4296097.306000]  usb-storage: device scan complete
[10:59] <LjL> !it | Giogionni
[10:59] <ubotu> Giogionni: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:59] <hkn> LjL: chown -Rf root:users dir; chmod -Rf 755 dir; will that not take care of that?
[10:59] <Giogionni> Ok garzie
[11:00] <andrian> from bulgaria
[11:00] <Okita> LjL: Hmm... I'm making a .deb package for a project I work on... currently the install script puts a directory in /opt and a symlink in /usr/bin.  So basically I could have it install and uninstall just via the scripts when people apt-get it.  Is that bad form?
[11:00] <thcmonkey> i want beryl ;(
[11:00] <Polysics> i want ruby 1.8.5! :-)
[11:00] <LjL> hkn: i think it shoould. assuming that you want the "rest of the world" to have rx access, too
[11:00] <Giogionni> Ciao a tutti
[11:00] <Quintin> thcmonkey: /join #beryl
[11:00] <bruenig> Okita, /usr by the filesystem rules, whoever created them, is where it should be
[11:00] <LjL> Okita: err... yeah
[11:01] <thcmonkey> sorry Quntin :/
[11:01] <hkn> LjL: good point, thanks
[11:01] <uaspi> hi, any one knows how to get ubuntu kernel tree sources????
[11:01] <Antonio_Carlos_M> how long does it take to update from dapper to edge?
[11:01] <speedwolf> ok, I can see my windows machine shares from ubuntu, but not the samba shares I have set up in ubuntu on the windows machine, any ideas?
[11:01] <LjL> Okita: creating and removing files should be left to dpkg itself to handle. the pre, post scripts should only be used for special things that might (or might not, more likely) have to be done for the program to work
[11:01] <bruenig> Antonio_Carlos_M, depends on your network speed, your setup, etc.
[11:02] <Antonio_Carlos_M> its 128/128
[11:02] <bruenig> setup, etc.
[11:02] <Antonio_Carlos_M> whats ETA?
[11:02] <guerrillawon> The file ran but I'm running into other problems.
[11:02] <guerrillawon> Ahh well thanks for the help.
[11:02] <soundray> Antonio_Carlos_M: just do the download overnight, that should suffice
[11:03] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ufff
[11:03] <Antonio_Carlos_M> i already started it
[11:03] <Antonio_Carlos_M> can i stop it?
[11:03] <Okita> LjL: Ok, I see.  And does dpkg install everything to /usr/share on all systems that use it?  Would it be safe to refer to /usr/share in the pre and post scripts?
[11:03] <eternal_p> any thoughts on my hanging bootup, is there some boot trace I could run?
[11:03] <bruenig> Antonio_Carlos_M, probably not a great idea
[11:03] <nevron> can anyone help me setup my usb sblive 24 bit soundcard i couldnt find any help in the ubuntu forums
[11:03] <soundray> Antonio_Carlos_M: yes, you can stop the download any time and it'll pick up where it stopped.
[11:03] <LjL> Okita: why do you insist that dpkg installs in /usr/share? it *doesn't* install there
[11:04] <LjL> Okita: it installs where it's told to install. the contents of data.tar.gz in the .deb file decide that
[11:04] <Antonio_Carlos_M> how do i stop it?
[11:04] <soundray> Antonio_Carlos_M: how did you start it?
[11:04] <Antonio_Carlos_M> theres no cancle
[11:04] <Antonio_Carlos_M> update manager
[11:04] <LjL> Okita: and that should normally be the *entire* /usr hierarchy (not just /usr/share, why just /usr/share?)
[11:04] <Antonio_Carlos_M> through update manager
[11:04] <LjL> Okita: perhaps /opt if the program really needs to reside in its own directory -- but "proper" .deb packages never do that afaik
[11:04] <sigger2> Thug-N-Me, sorry had to step away and now have to leave for 3.5 hours.
[11:04] <soundray> Antonio_Carlos_M: close the windows with the X button
[11:05] <Antonio_Carlos_M> there is no x button
[11:05] <Antonio_Carlos_M> is there something like alt+F4 combination
[11:05] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ?
[11:05] <soundray> Antonio_Carlos_M: yes
[11:05] <Antonio_Carlos_M> how
[11:05] <Antonio_Carlos_M> ?
[11:05] <sigger2> Thug-N-Me, will be back later.  In the meanwhile, check permissions, check allow/deny hosts.
[11:06] <Antonio_Carlos_M> tell me plz
[11:06] <soundray> Antonio_Carlos_M: Alt-F4
[11:06] <Okita> LjL: I see... Then how does it know which directory?  That doesn't seem to be specified in the control file
[11:06] <andreseso> eternal_p: when rebooting go into the grub menu selecting your active configuration and press e to edit.  Then go to the line where it says kernel and press e again.  Remove anyting that looks like quiet or splash.  Hit enter and b to boot
[11:06] <sigger2> Thunderbolt, also make sure you've got both machines with packages to be nfs servers
[11:07] <nevron> do i have to reinstall everything to get my sblive device working?
[11:07] <soundray> Antonio_Carlos_M: if that doesn't work, you can abort your X session with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. Close all other programs before you do that.
[11:07] <Antonio_Carlos_M> force quit worked
[11:07] <Antonio_Carlos_M> :D
[11:07] <Antonio_Carlos_M> tnx
[11:09] <LjL> Okita: and indeed it isn't, it's specified in the data file. that simply contains the entire root hierarchy, and the files are put in their proper location
[11:09] <unop> Okita,  have you examined how the data.tar.gz and control.tar.gz files are constructed in a .deb file?
[11:09] <Antonio_Carlos_M> good night all
[11:09] <AlexC_> night
[11:10] <Antonio_Carlos_M> Windows is no more
[11:10] <LjL> Okita: so if a file must be in /usr/bin/filename, it is just put in usr/bin/filename inside the data.tar.gz file
[11:10] <goth> hej jemand da
[11:10] <soundray> !de | goth
[11:10] <ubotu> goth: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:11] <AlexC_> soundray: ahhh, I wasn't sure what language it was! didn't know which command to do :P didn't seem like german at first
[11:11] <unop> Okita,  the data contains files in the exact heirarchy as they would reside on the filesystem (or in otherwords, they maintain a heirarchy relative to /) .. the control.tar.gz contains scripts needed to be run prior to and after an install, hashes, etc
[11:11] <christopher> moin
[11:11] <goth> ich knnte vielleicht hilfe gebrauchen
[11:11] <briguyd> i have an audigy 2 platinum and the sounds at login and logoff work, but i cant hear anything else, can anyone help me?
[11:11] <soundray> goth: du musst auf Englisch fragen.
[11:11] <AlexC_> goth: #ubuntu-de
[11:11] <uaspi> any one knows how to compile the kernel ???
[11:11] <ompaul> goth, speak english in this channel thanks
[11:11] <Flannel> !kernel | uaspi
[11:11] <ubotu> uaspi: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:12] <LjL> goth: da gehe zu #ubuntu-de (schrieb /join #ubuntu-de), hier sprechen wir englisch
[11:12] <christopher> huch, da bin ich wieder
[11:12] <Brandon__> i am going to paste my homework now
[11:12] <Brandon__> d'accord?
[11:12] <goth> ich bin zum ersten mal hier
[11:12] <soundray> !de | christopher
[11:12] <ubotu> christopher: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:12] <goth> versuche ich mal
[11:12] <william_> sorry..i'm not getting this samba thing.....
[11:12] <christopher> mkay
[11:12] <uaspi> thx! :)
[11:13] <Okita> LjL: Ok, I see.  So when creating the .deb file, I should put the files in /usr/whatever first?
[11:13] <Brandon__> je suis un peu recherche
[11:13] <william_> i'm trying to set this up according to the guide....
[11:13] <ompaul> !fr
[11:13] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:13] <Brandon__> oui merci
[11:13] <Okita> unop: I hadn't done more than dpkg --info debfile yet
[11:13] <Polysics> i hate having to install something fro msource because the packagers are slow .-/
[11:13] <Flannel> Polysics: what's that?
[11:13] <LjL> what is this, #ubuntu-babel?
[11:13] <briguyd> i have an audigy 2 platinum and the sounds at login and logoff work, but i cant hear anything else, can anyone help me?
[11:13] <william_> says mount: mount point 0 does not exist
[11:13] <soundray> :D
[11:13] <ompaul> LjL, that was removed from the planet
[11:14] <LjL> Okita, to be honest i don't really know the correct procedure for *making* a package. i just know that, eventually, the file locations are known in data.tar.gz by the location inside the very tar archive
[11:14] <unop> Okita,  you can extract a .deb like this -- ar -x file.deb
[11:14] <andreseso> join #kvirc
[11:14] <steel_lady> help! I was thinking that restarting resolves the problem but it is not! I don't have sound!!!
[11:14] <unop> Okita,  this should give you a primer into building your own .deb http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/336
[11:15] <daum> does ubuntu not come with ssh installed?
[11:15] <LjL> daum: not the server, no
[11:15] <ompaul> daum, not the sever
[11:15] <ompaul> daum, simple command line, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[11:16] <Ubuntu> hello I'm having some trouble with my connection to the internet, it works fine but it feels really slow compared to what it is on my mac and my other pc... also I can't access the router configuration because it will timeout, could it be some bad ethernet driver ? or maybe my router isn't compatible with ubuntu ? could anyone help please ?
[11:16] <daum> ompaul, thanks, trying to help my friend remotely install an ubuntu, and i'm a gentoo person-p
[11:16] <LjL> Ubuntu: for some people, the culprit is ipv6 being enabled - for some reason
[11:16] <uaspi> in case i want to compile a driver and all ready have he sources, what is next???
[11:16] <LjL> !ipv6 | ubuntu
[11:16] <ubotu> ubuntu: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:16] <briguyd> nevermind, i just changed my settings in system>prefs>sound to alsa and it seems to work
[11:16] <william_> anyone help samba setup?
[11:16] <th1> how to report a bug?
[11:17] <unop> Ubuntu,  how do you access your router's setup?
[11:17] <ompaul> th1, on launcpad.net
[11:17] <LjL> !bugs > th1    (th1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:17] <th1> tgabjs
[11:17] <th1> thanks even
[11:17] <Ubuntu> i go through firefox
[11:17] <ompaul> th1, on launchpad.net
[11:17] <LjL> th1: hah :)
[11:18] <daum> getting a  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:18] <daum> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? any idea how to fix?
[11:18] <vinboy> where can I set mouse's scrolling speed?
[11:18] <steel_lady> does anybody have idea how to check what is causing my laptop to loose the sound?
[11:18] <ompaul> daum, using synaptic by any chance?
[11:18] <soundray> vinboy: System-Preferences-Mouse
[11:18] <th1> so, you have to register to report a bug.. that is not very user friendly
[11:18] <unop> Ubuntu,  your router works independantly of the computer -- it's definitely compatible (as it's independent) .. try disabling IPv6
[11:18] <bleanna_unux> What is the name of the package of the GNOME networking configuration tool?
[11:18] <daum> ompaul, yeah he was...just close it i take it?
[11:18] <RedWolf-> after installing gparted and running it, gparted disabled automount so now whe nI put my USB drive in it doesn't mount it. How can I turn this back on?
[11:18] <soundray> bleanna_unux: network-admin
[11:19] <Ubuntu> okay thanks i'll try the ipv6 thing
[11:19] <unop> daum,  are you sudoing this command?
[11:19] <daum> unop, he is
[11:19] <ompaul> daum, you can only use one install tool
[11:19] <vinboy> thx soundray
[11:19] <daum> ompaul, alright.
[11:19] <ompaul> daum, so choose command line or tools
[11:19] <soundray> RedWolf-: System-Preferences-Removable Drives
[11:19] <Jj> hello
[11:19] <Nutubuntu> Hi all - I'm thinking of upgrading my graphics card. How would I safely and easily (grin) install an ATI "All-In-Wonder" 9600 Pro into an existing Dapper installation? Is there a how-to or tutorial around? (I googled ... honestly [grin] ).
[11:19] <daum> also anyone know if xproto is bundled in with something else?
[11:19] <vinboy> soundray: but i can't find the scroll speed there
[11:19] <Jj> anyone using dual screen configuration
[11:19] <unop> daum,  use fuser or lsof to find out which process has the file open and then either close or kill it
[11:19] <Jj> not with xinerama
[11:20] <ompaul> unop, close synaptic would be eaiser ;-)
[11:20] <th1> Nutubuntu, if you are still thinking of upgrading your gfx card think twice before you buy an ATI card for linux
[11:20] <unop> ompaul,  i.e. if synaptic is open .. it isnt always the culprit ;)
[11:20] <soundray> vinboy: wheel scrolling speed depends on the application
[11:20] <alfmatos> hi BenC, are you around ?
[11:20] <Nutubuntu> th1 - I would ... but it's a freebie, so perhaps it's worth a little suffering : )
[11:20] <ompaul> unop, he siad it was and was trying to do command line ;-)
[11:20] <RedWolf-> soundray, it says it's enabled
[11:20] <BenC> alfmatos: Yes
[11:20] <th1> and if twice is not enough then think a third time, and a fourth, and then buy an nvidia card ;)
[11:20] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Please help! A lot of my gnome-panel applications crashes... like the trashcan! Ive tried reinstalling all gnome-panel-related thing but it doesnt help!
[11:20] <Jj> i have a problem when openning firefox from another desktop
[11:21] <th1> ok Nutubuntu I guess then ;)
[11:21] <vinboy> soundray: oh ic.. thx
[11:21] <unop> ompaul,  ok, you win this time :p
[11:21] <alfmatos> BenC, i've been looking at a few bug reports on vmware-player kernel modules
[11:21] <th1> it should work more or less out of the box for basic X
[11:21] <kbrosnan> Jj: try export MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1
[11:21] <Nutubuntu> th1 - if I were buying, I'd definitely go nvidia : )
[11:21] <bleanna_unux> soundray: what repo do i get it from?
[11:21] <izmlife> Hi, anyone had a problem with blank screen on logon when rebooting xserver?
[11:21] <unop> ompaul,  did you get my replies?
[11:21] <ompaul> unop, no
[11:21] <Jimme1> How can I make an iso image from a set of files?
[11:21] <ciao> ?
[11:22] <alfmatos> BenC, you marked bug #80322 as fix commited, and i was wondering if #84877 is the same issue
[11:22] <ompaul> unop, join me same place
[11:22] <Jj> I have firefox running on head 0
[11:22] <soundray> !info gnome-system-tools | bleanna_unux
[11:22] <ubotu> bleanna_unux: gnome-system-tools: Cross-platform configuration utilities for GNOME. In component main, is extra. Version 2.15.5-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 2356 kB, installed size 7256 kB
[11:22] <unop> ompaul,  ahh well, i got yours -- take good rest and keep warm :)
[11:22] <ompaul> k
[11:22] <daum> ompaul, apt-get install ssh-server installed it too right?
[11:22] <Jj> and f-spot running on head1, f-spot tries to open a ffox window and i get the message that its already running
[11:22] <unop> ompaul,  its ok, no real need right now, just wanted to reply :)
[11:22] <Jj> in gentoo, it wuould open a new tab on firefox running on head0
[11:22] <BenC> alfmatos: Yep, and it's fix released right now
[11:22] <alfmatos> since, #84877 has now 5 duplicates, i was hoping to mark it fixed...
[11:22] <ompaul> daum, no   >>>>> sodo apt-get install openssh-server <<<<<
[11:22] <bleanna_unux> soundray: thanks
[11:23] <daum> ompaul, aye well he was already sudo'd
[11:23] <soundray> RedWolf-: you said that running gparted disabled it -- how do you know?
[11:23] <Okita> unop: Looking through it now, it's more helpful than the one I was using, thanks
[11:23] <whileimhere> Is there a simple way to save streams of video from utube and stuff?
[11:23] <RedWolf-> libparted : 1.7.1
[11:23] <RedWolf-> automounting disabled
[11:23] <Okita> LjL: I see, I'll give it a shot, thanks
[11:23] <alfmatos> BenC, ok, thanks a lot, i'll mark #84877 as fix commited same as #80322
[11:23] <daum> ompaul, shouldn't it be sudo apt-get install openssh-server ?
[11:23] <ompaul> daum, I'll just say this - better to issue sudo prior to commands
[11:23] <ompaul> :)
[11:23] <gabspeck> is there any progress in a fix for NetworkManager to handle statically configured interfaces?
[11:23] <BenC> alfmatos: Already did it :)
[11:23] <unop> Okita,  there are a few other more advanced howtos that go into the process in detail
[11:23] <RedWolf-> that's what it says when I run it form terminal
[11:23] <ompaul> daum, you win
[11:23] <crimsun> grrr
[11:23] <alfmatos> BenC, cool then :) thanks
[11:23] <RememberPOL> X crashes with this: (EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0) .....even though I don't have "Load "wfb"" in the module section... any idea what's up with this?
[11:24] <daum> ompaul, ubuntu you start it via /etc/init.d/sshd start?
[11:24] <gabspeck> is there any progress in a fix for NetworkManager to handle statically configured interfaces?
[11:24] <ompaul> daum, it starts on install
[11:24] <daum> ompaul, thanks
[11:24] <RedWolf-> looks like it modified Fstab
[11:24] <ompaul> daum debian idea - if you install it the o/s wants you to use it
[11:24] <daum> ompaul, never used debian, been a gentoo boy for my entire life basically
[11:24] <Nutubuntu> So ... if I'm willing to suffer ... what do I do to configure my Dapper box for the ATI 9600 freebie?
[11:25] <RedWolf-> daum your whole life? You must be new to Linux then
[11:25] <daum> RedWolf-, or young=0
[11:25] <unop> daum,  you cant be more than 6 years old then :p
[11:25] <RedWolf-> Gentoo is a fairly new and fresh distrobution.
[11:25] <daum> RedWolf-, of my linux life
[11:25] <th1> wtf
[11:25] <th1> on transgress!*@*!#ubuntu-read-topic
[11:25] <RedWolf-> haha I started in minix
[11:25] <th1> oops
[11:25] <ompaul> th1, there was an exploit
[11:25] <th1> what does this mean, on launchpad: If your bug hasn't been reported before, please describe your problem more in detail.
[11:25] <RedWolf-> it's actually frustrating tfor me to use Ubuntu
[11:25] <RememberPOL> whoa someone's going crazy with bans
[11:25] <RedWolf-> It's crippling me with all of this User-friendly
[11:25] <LjL> !exploit
[11:25] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[11:25] <ompaul> RememberPOL, wrong
[11:25] <Brandon__> can you ynban me
[11:25] <RedWolf-> but it's great for my son to use it
[11:26] <unop> Okita,  this one's good too http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/
[11:26] <th1> launchpad is not very user friendly
[11:26] <ompaul> daum use wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com and the first search is for "repos" have fun
[11:26] <RedWolf-> soundray it modified my fstab, what is with this?
[11:27] <soundray> RedWolf-: what makes you think that gparted changed your /etc/fstab? I find that hard to believe?
[11:27] <th1> first I had to register to report a bug and now it is saying "    *
[11:27] <th1> "moon-lander 1:1.0-4ubuntu2 amd64" does not exist in Ubuntu. Please choose a different package. If you're unsure, please select "I don't know"" and "If your bug hasn't been reported before, please describe your problem more in detail."
[11:27] <RedWolf-> soundray so do I
[11:27] <RedWolf-> soundray but it did
[11:27] <Polysics> argh, i managed to feck my NVidia setup .-/
[11:27] <RedWolf-> I think maybe I need to rebuild the gparted package, i was messing with the source lol.
[11:27] <Polysics> apparently the linux-restricted mirror i have is down
[11:28] <Thug-N-Me> when is a new ubuntu release out ?
[11:28] <Brandon__> i release ubuntu tomorrow
[11:28] <deltok> april
[11:28] <Brandon__> ok?
[11:28] <soundray> !feisty | Thug-N-Me
[11:28] <crimsun> !schedule |Thug-N-Me
[11:28] <ubotu> Thug-N-Me: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[11:28] <ubotu> Thug-N-Me: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:28] <Brandon__> !feisty
[11:28] <Brandon__> help
[11:29] <soundray> th1: try filing it under moon-lander, ie. no version or architecture name
[11:29] <Thug-N-Me> so no point using the alpha Feisty, i better wait until april ;)
[11:29] <Okita> unop: Sweet, looking through them now
[11:29] <Nutubuntu> April's not so far off : )
[11:29] <th1> soundray, thanks, that seems to work
[11:30] <Thug-N-Me> yeah
[11:30] <speedwolf> anyone know what's what about samba? I'm having problems
[11:30] <unop> Okita,  and this , the ultimate resource :) http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html
[11:30] <soundray> !ask | speedwolf
[11:30] <th1> speedwolf, I have used it a fair bit what is the problem?
[11:30] <ubotu> speedwolf: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:31] <speedwolf> th1: ubuntu can se my windows share over the network, windows can't access the samba share
[11:31] <speedwolf> th1: the name seems really wrong as well
[11:31] <th1> speedwolf, can you see the samba share from within ubuntu?
[11:32] <unop> speedwolf,  can't access means what really? what behaviour do you see/experience? :)
[11:32] <chump> hi everyone i need help to set my external usb hard drive to use fuse instead of ntfs when it's mounted
[11:32] <tc75> i get a "no versions of ndiswrapper found" error when i try to use it :S ndiswrapper-utils and -common are installed and i believe i do have the kernel module... any ideas?
[11:33] <zch> how can i edit grub so it boots to windows by default
[11:33] <Nutubuntu> So ... if I'm willing to suffer ... what do I do to configure my Dapper box for the ATI 9600 freebie? I assume I'd edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[11:33] <th1> chump just put a line like this in fstab: /dev/usbdisk /mnt/windisk ntfs-3g locale=en_GB.utf8,uid=yourname,gid=winusers,umask=007
[11:33] <SuperTeece> hey all
[11:34] <unop> tc75,  please go through the ndiswrapper verification process here first http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking
[11:34] <soundray> zch: there is a 'default 0' line at the top. Replace 0 with the number of your Windows-title section. Start counting at 0.
[11:34] <speedwolf> ok, I go to places>network servers>windows network>mshome> and nothing shows up in ubuntu, but they both do in windows. I can access the windows share via windows, but can't access the samba
[11:34] <Brandon__> can you unban me
[11:34] <Brandon__> ?
[11:34] <soundray> zch: sorry, I'm talking about /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:34] <LjL> Brandon__: excuse me?
[11:34] <zch> oh ok
[11:34] <zch> thanks
[11:34] <Nutubuntu> Man ... hit "Enter" too soon ... I assume I'd edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and make a backup), then shutdown -r and -- if it's working when it restarts, run aticonfig ?
[11:34] <omgsunny> hello how can i find out the local IP of my laptop?
[11:34] <Brandon__> whatismyip.com
[11:35] <Nutubuntu> omgsunny -  ifconfig
[11:35] <unop> omgsunny,  issue an ifconfig at the terminal
[11:35] <knubbe> omgsunny: ifconfig
[11:35] <omgsunny> Brandon__ not external
[11:35] <speedwolf> and the samba share name is all messed up "speedwolf-desktop server (Samba, Ubuntu) (SPEEDWOLF-DESKTOspeedwolf-desktop server (Samba, Ubuntu)))"
[11:35] <tc75> thx unop! how's it going on #bash... style hated for your perl usage? ;)
[11:35] <Brandon__> i mean, www.whatismyip.com!
[11:35] <speedwolf> that can't be right
[11:35] <omgsunny> thank you everyone
[11:35] <LjL> Brandon__: ?!
[11:35] <Brandon__> LjL: hello, how are u today
[11:36] <cafuego_> Brandon__: Omg, you're using *my* ip!
[11:36] <Nutubuntu> omgsunny - as long as you're looking at your interface and the related commands, you might want to google ifconfig, ifup, and ifdown
[11:36] <LjL> Brandon__, what are you talking about? what unbans? what whatismyip.com?
[11:36] <unop> tc75,  i couldnt really care more/less about 16 grumpy 40 year olds who're quite inflexible :)
[11:36] <Brandon__> cafuego_: i am sorry =(
[11:36] <Brandon__> LjL: please dont ban me from #ununtus
[11:36] <tc75> unop: hehe...
[11:36] <z0rz> Is there anything like iftop that has more whois technology built in?
[11:37] <SuperTeece> I took a break from my wireless problem to setup a Samba server. The server wen off without a problem so now I'm back with my Belkin issue.
[11:37] <LjL> Brandon__, i see, you're a troll
[11:37] <clearze2> How can I ban a ip from connecting to my systems with iptables?
[11:37] <adaptr> Brandon__: we won't ban you from #uranus :)
[11:37] <chump> th1 : there is no place to set it tu use fuse by default ? ... coz my drive isn't in fstab and it mount when it's plug
[11:37] <unop> man iptables
[11:37] <bobovski> hi, how do I set up permissions on my /var/www folder so that my user can paster to it, etc?
[11:37] <cypherdelic> MUST i use UUID for "root=" in /boot/grub/menu.lst??
[11:37] <speedwolf> th1: if I try and access the samba share which ubuntu can't even see I get told by windows that the parameter is incorrect
[11:37] <eric123465> can anyone tell me how to get a 1400x900 resolution on a flat panel monitor with (64 bit) nvidia driver installed
[11:37] <th1> chump, I am not sure I think it will try ntfs first
[11:38] <adaptr> cypherdelic: not to my knowledge
[11:38] <soundray> cypherdelic: no
[11:38] <Brandon__> i think there is no #uranus haha
[11:38] <unop> bobovski,  add your $USER into the www-data group
[11:38] <shatrat> !resolution|eric123465
[11:38] <ubotu> eric123465: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:38] <whileimhere> I am using gRip to rip my CDs to MP3. Everytime I insert a CD into the cd drive Sound Juicer comes up. Is there a setting that I can change that will make gRip com up?
[11:38] <cypherdelic> i installed feisty, now i want to get back to edgy, i removed the feisty partition and chroot the edgy and updated grub and initramfs, but i get ERROR 22?
[11:38] <bobovski> unop: Ok, I did that...must I restart for it to take effect? Because I'm still unable to paste to that directory
[11:38] <Brandon__> what on sound juicer???
[11:38] <SuperTeece> does anyone have a few minutes to spare for a (hopefully) simple wireless question?
[11:39] <LjL> !ask
[11:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:39] <cypherdelic> any ideas?
[11:39] <Dr_willis> SuperTeece,  ive found there is no such thing.. :)
[11:39] <unop> bobovski,  errm, no you shouldnt need to restart -- you might need to verify that the directory you are trying to put stuff into has write permissions for the www-data group
[11:39] <soundray> whileimhere: System-Preferences-Removable Drives
[11:39] <SuperTeece> Dr_willis: LOL but I hope mine will change your mind
[11:39] <th1> ok I fixed the bug I reported by downloading the source package.. how do I submit the fix?
[11:39] <bobovski> unop: Ok, how do I verify that?
[11:39] <eric123465> thx
[11:40] <Dr_willis> SuperTeece,  ive given up on wireless. :) ran wires through the ductwork.. wonder how heat resisteant cat5 is
[11:40] <unop> bobovski,  an  "ls -ld" on the directory should list that info
[11:40] <whileimhere> Brandon__ To rip my CDs to mp3 I use grip. Soundjuicer comes up automatically everytime I insert a disk.  Thank you soundray
[11:40] <LjL> th1, make a patch and attach it to a comment in the bug report
[11:40] <soundray> th1: just add info about the fix to your bug report
[11:40] <SuperTeece> Dr_willis: again with the LOL
[11:40] <cypherdelic> i installed feisty, now i want to get back to edgy, i removed the feisty partition and chroot the edgy and updated grub and initramfs, but i get ERROR 22?
[11:41] <bobovski> unop: ok, all I see is root...can I paste the outcome in here?
[11:41] <AlexC_> cypherdelic:  #ubuntu+1
[11:41] <cypherdelic> i tried to change the (hd0,x) in menu.lst
[11:41] <unop> bobovski,  if it's a single line, yes -- otherwise !pastebin :)
[11:41] <cypherdelic> i got no more feisty installed
[11:41] <cypherdelic> i only have edgy, with grub
[11:41] <cypherdelic> i cant boot
[11:41] <izmlife> NickServ set email izmlife@gmail.com
[11:41] <bobovski> unop: drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096
[11:41] <soundray> !enter | cypherdelic
[11:41] <ubotu> cypherdelic: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:41] <cypherdelic> sry
[11:42] <soundray> cypherdelic: please put your /boot/grub/menu.lst on the pastebin
[11:42] <SuperTeece> I installed my Belkin F5D8010 pcmcia card using ndiswrapper via ndisgtk. I see driver installed, hardware present. In lspci I see the card but it says unknown device after the chipset name. I also to not see an entry for the card in System --> Admin --> Netowrking. The card lights are not on. I have the same issue with the onboard Broadcom. Any Ideas?
[11:42] <unop> bobovski,  is this the /var/www directory itself? or a subdirectory in it?
[11:42] <cypherdelic> !pastebin
[11:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:42] <AlexC_> cypherdelic: sorry I can't help I've gotta go - night
[11:42] <bobovski> unop: the former...but I'd like it to hold for any of the latter as well
[11:43] <sinizzl> hello
[11:43] <JimmyME> I have a USR external, serial port "hard" modem and set it up per the Wiki "Setting up a modem" but get random disconnects.  Any tips?  Thx!
[11:43] <sinizzl> i'm running beryl on a Geforce7600 Series Graphics Card and I want to run Google Earth at the same time. Is that possible while keeping a decent performance?
[11:43] <unop> bobovski,  ok, you need to change permissions recursively (so take out from there what you dont want affected before doing this) -- sudo chown -Rv www-data.www-data /var/www
[11:44] <cypherdelic> soundray, hold on, i got in on notebook, needs some time
[11:44] <whileimhere> Now can anyone tell me how to save videos from utube?
[11:44] <unop> bobovski,  s/permissions/ownership/
[11:44] <whileimhere> :)
[11:44] <sharperguy> if there an easy way to temporarlily disable iptables?
[11:44] <shatrat> whileimhere, there is a firefox addon that does that, I forget the name of it though
[11:44] <SuperTeece> I'm going to setup an alternate channel. If anyone here has experience with wireless, please meet me in #ubuntu-wireless
[11:44] <whileimhere> Ive been trying unplug with no success
[11:44] <unop> sharperguy,  aye, iptables -X/-F i believe -- man iptables
[11:44] <cypherdelic> soundray: do you need anything else, maybe someout output from console about which partition is on wich device, i dont know the command
[11:45] <linuXx> what packages do I need for my computer to automatically associate with a wireless lan on startup?
[11:45] <unop> cypherdelic,  fdisk -l
[11:45] <soundray> cypherdelic: yes, /etc/fstab might come in handy
[11:45] <unop> cypherdelic,  ahh, disregard my last post .. i misread
[11:45] <cypherdelic> ill put it together into one file, will that be alright?
[11:45] <bobovski> unop: still no go. I cannot copy files into the /var/www folder
[11:45] <soundray> cypherdelic: sure
[11:46] <unop> bobovski,  what does "ls -ld" return now?
[11:46] <bobovski> drwxr-xr-x 9 www-data www-data 4096 2007-02-18 16:10
[11:47] <unop> bobovski,  hmm, are you sure you are in the www-data group?  use an "id" or "groups" to find out
[11:48] <__doc__> hi, I tried "aptitude install scons" and ended up with http://rafb.net/p/WLxmPg89.html . I guess that's pretty common as plenty of other people pasted the precise same problem, a solution seems to be eluding everybody, anybody can shed some light please (my dpkg seems to be permanently borken now, arghl, :/)
[11:48] <jessid> hello! how can I know the version of libc i have installed? Thanks
[11:48] <SuperTeece> anyone? please? Beer?
[11:48] <jessid> ~libc
[11:48] <izmlife> Hi - Problem: blank screen at login on reboot of xserver using ctrl+del-backspc? Any ideas - also no usplash?
[11:48] <soundray> unop: even if he is, the dir is not writable for the group...
[11:48] <roostishaw> why does istanbul (screen recorder) crash when i stop recording?!
[11:48] <bobovski> hm. group permissions are set at login right? so I need to logout
[11:48] <bobovski> brb
[11:48] <thingy> jessid, dpkg -l | grep glibc
[11:48] <bobovski> thanks for the help unop
[11:49] <unop> soundray,  ahh, good spot :)
[11:49] <jeroenimo> Hey any people around with intel macs ?
[11:49] <linuXx> what packages do I need for my computer to automatically associate with a wireless lan on startup?
[11:49] <jessid> thingy thanks!!!
[11:49] <SuperTeece> LinuXx: none that I know of, just a properly setup wlan card
[11:50] <__doc__> linuXx: buy a shotgun and shoot yourself in the head, it's easier then getting wireless to run
[11:50] <soundray> linuXx: once you get wireless working, it's only a matter of adding 'auto wlan0' to /etc/network/interfaces (assuming wlan0 is the interface name)
[11:50] <jeroenimo> __doc__: bullshit
[11:50] <cypherdelic> soundray, unop : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6478/
[11:50] <linuXx> thx, soundray
[11:50] <SuperTeece> __doc__: is that why I can't seem to get an answer for my issue?
[11:51] <adaptr> jessid: dpkg -l | grep libc6
[11:51] <__doc__> jeroenimo: ohyeah, I've 3 attempts at different hardware on my back, getting ndiswrapper to semi-run, not run, on different machines.
[11:51] <Dr_willis> I can barely get wireless working under windows with the actual drivers from the companies and o forth...
[11:51] <m_matteo> can I find in the ppc livecd wardriving tools?
[11:51] <jeroenimo> __doc__: depends on the chipset
[11:51] <jessid> adaptr thanks!!!
[11:51] <Dr_willis> m_matteo,  proberly not in there by default
[11:51] <__doc__> jeroenimo: yeah sure, there's like 0.00000005% of the chipsets which actually work
[11:51] <adaptr> jessid: np, show you what proper research will do for your creds :)
[11:52] <jeroenimo> __doc__: untrue, ralink works great
[11:52] <__doc__> jeroenimo: the others require black magick, voodoo, live support, headaches, time and then they don't work still
[11:52] <jeroenimo> and they are cheap
[11:52] <m_matteo> so I need to build my own live cd?
[11:52] <jessid> :)
[11:52] <adaptr> jeroenimo: every last word out of you is "bs", "untrue", or something else purely argumentative...
[11:52] <m_matteo> also if I want to load the drivers for a prism 2 usb dongle?
[11:52] <soundray> cypherdelic: grub may be seeing /dev/sda as (hd1). Verify by hitting 'c' at the boot menu and running 'geometry (hd0)' and 'geometry (hd1)'
[11:53] <__doc__> jeroenimo: want to know what the only wireless solution is that works with linux reliably, every single time?
[11:53] <SuperTeece> could someone please take a glance at my issue?
[11:53] <izmlife> Anyone had a problme with blank login screen when rebooting xserver using Ctrl+Alt-Backspc?
[11:53] <__doc__> jeroenimo: go buy a wireless bridge
[11:53] <cypherdelic> no sda is my only harddisk
[11:53] <SuperTeece> I'll repost if so
[11:53] <jeroenimo> adaptr: I think wireless works kinda nice on all my linux projects , guess I'm lucky with chipset
[11:53] <unop> SuperTeece,  only a glance? no more? :) what's the matter?
[11:53] <SuperTeece> if not I don't wan't to be a spammer
[11:53] <roostishaw> anyone know?
[11:53] <roostishaw> why does istanbul (screen recorder) crash when i stop recording?!
[11:53] <jeroenimo> atheros and ralink
[11:53] <soundray> cypherdelic: oops, sorry, misread (hda = cdrom!)
[11:53] <SuperTeece> unop: I installed my Belkin F5D8010 pcmcia card using ndiswrapper via ndisgtk. I see driver installed, hardware present. In lspci I see the card but it says unknown device after the chipset name. I also to not see an entry for the card in System --> Admin --> Netowrking. The card lights are not on. I have the same issue with the onboard Broadcom. Any Ideas?
[11:53] <cypherdelic> soundray, i will try that but i cant even press ESC, error 22 suddenly
[11:53] <Zilus> Hi
[11:53] <shatrat> roostishaw, run it from terminal and see what the output is when it crashes?
[11:54] <roostishaw> shatrat, can i link you to the pastebin
[11:54] <roostishaw> ?
[11:54] <__doc__> so anybody knows how to back out of a screwed dpkg installation where dpkg capitulates?
[11:54] <tedLOL> i removed /etc/init.d/samba, but when i try to apt get samba again it doesn't replace the file ?
[11:54] <shatrat> roostishaw, sure, but I havent used istanbul so i might not be able to help
[11:54] <roostishaw> ok
[11:55] <soundray> cypherdelic: perhaps the runaway root line causes it (no. 142)
[11:55] <cypherdelic> soundray, you mean #k-opt?
[11:55] <larson9999> errr, how do you ungroup the taskbar items?
[11:55] <unop> SuperTeece,  the first thing that comes to mind is "are you absolutely 101% sure you have the right drivers" installed?? The second one is, you might need to enable the PCMCIA services (cant remember what the service is called exactly)
[11:55] <ChaosEddie> SuperTeece: whats the issue
[11:55] <jrib> larson9999: how do you group taskbar items?
[11:55] <flossgeek> izm has an issue of if e restarts an xserver the gdm is there but his monitor is blank. You can log in but you see nothing, any ideas?
[11:55] <quaal> anyone know what command i have to run to enter this key.. ive done it before for other repositories. this is the error i get after apt-get update http://pastebin.ca/362603
[11:55] <roostishaw> shatrat, nvm
[11:55] <__doc__> http://rafb.net/p/WLxmPg89.html .. :?
[11:55] <roostishaw> thanks anyway
[11:55] <cypherdelic> soudnray: hitting c does not work, booting livecd, again
[11:56] <SuperTeece> ChaosEddie: I installed my Belkin F5D8010 pcmcia card using ndiswrapper via ndisgtk. I see driver installed, hardware present. In lspci I see the card but it says unknown device after the chipset name. I also to not see an entry for the card in System --> Admin --> Netowrking. The card lights are not on. I have the same issue with the onboard Broadcom. Any Ideas?
[11:56] <larson9999> jrib: they are grouped by default
[11:56] <soundray> cypherdelic: line 142 in your post http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6478/
[11:56] <SuperTeece> unop: how do I check the services, also, would this affect an onboard card as well?
[11:56] <unop> quaal,  have you googled that key itself? :>
[11:56] <SuperTeece> unop: I got the drivers from the wiki list
[11:56] <jrib> larson9999: task bar == window list?
[11:57] <cypherdelic> soundray,  aah ok i see it, i will try to remove both lines,
[11:57] <__doc__> SuperTeece: if you installed ndisgtk you probably got ndiswrapper-utils-1.1 which doesn't work sometimes
[11:57] <quaal> unop, i have not. what do i google just tuxfamily.org key ?
[11:57] <larson9999> jrib: probably.
[11:57] <ChaosEddie> if you ask me, the software is confused
[11:57] <JosefK> hey, just wondering if anyone's ever setup a system to watch for warnings/errors from hardware raid?
[11:57] <jrib> larson9999: right click on the begijnning of the window list and go to preferences
[11:57] <JosefK> I can figure out how to mail the information, but don't know where to get it from :/
[11:57] <__doc__> SuperTeece: try aptitude remove ndisgtk and try doing the ndiswrapping by hand once you've got ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[11:57] <unop> SuperTeece,  errm, what does this return -- ls -l /etc/init.d/*pcmcia*
[11:57] <ChaosEddie> because the card itself acknowldges that its not working
[11:57] <larson9999> jrib: found it
[11:57] <unop> quaal,  no that hexadecimal key itself :)
[11:57] <SuperTeece> __doc__: prior to installed ndisgtk I compiled and installed the newest ndis wrapper, is that what you are referreing to?
[11:57] <cypherdelic> soundray, everything else looks right, doesnt it?
[11:58] <__doc__> SuperTeece: ya
[11:58] <larson9999> jrib: thanks
[11:58] <soundray> cypherdelic: yes
[11:58] <quaal> unop, ok, will do thanks
[11:58] <__doc__> SuperTeece: Also try to run the whole procedre in a different kernel, the last one seems to have broken quite a few wlan setups (yet again)
[11:58] <unop> quaal,  also for reference http://google.com/linux :d
[11:59] <cypherdelic> soundray, i was wondering about those lines earlier, but i didn't create them so i didn't care
[11:59] <__doc__> SuperTeece: remember to save some money for the shotgun, don't forget.
[11:59] <cypherdelic> ;)
[11:59] <SuperTeece> unop: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6773 2006-01-17 15:18 /etc/init.d/pcmcia
[11:59] <SuperTeece> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3386 2006-03-23 23:40 /etc/init.d/pcmciautils
[11:59] <quaal> unop, ah.. righton thanks
[11:59] <SuperTeece> __doc__: shotgun in hand buddy
[11:59] <Colonel> ...
[12:00] <mastermixer> have i said already that i'm in love with ubuntu? =P
[12:00] <ChaosEddie> __doc__: i dont agree with you, but it still makes me laugh
[12:00] <SuperTeece> __doc__: is there a way to see which utils I have?
[12:00] <Thug-N-Me> very weird ubuntu seems not to be able to read my sata hard disk driver anymore ;(
[12:00] <unop> SuperTeece,  this ought to restart them  sudo sh -c "/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart; /etc/init.d/pcmciautils restart"
[12:00] <nexousNET> Hi, how and where do I add my .fon and .pcf fonts in ubuntu 6.10?
[12:00] <Thug-N-Me> bios can see it
[12:00] <jwtodd> ok ... my new system is almost baked. sound is all that remains. i'm sure this is a faq ... but i could use some pointers to get me on the straight and narrow. i assume i will be going after alsa (vs oss). h/w: x64 dual core w/ a creative sound card. thx :)
[12:00] <__doc__> so how do I manually clean up a messed dpkg installation attempt?