[01:39] <RememberPOL> So, I'm using alberto milone's bleeding edge nvidia driver repository... and something weird just happened. My laptop froze and upon restarting, x complained about some nvidia module version mismatch so I removed nvidia-kernel-commond, removed nvidia-glx, installed nvidia-kernel-common, installed nvidia-glx, and now x is complaining it can't load the NVIDIA module because of some missing module it's trying to load "wfb", even though th
[01:41] <RememberPOL> http://rafb.net/p/GEjYlC82.txt
[03:16] <abzde> i'm not totally sure if this should be here, or in the fluxbox channel, but, i've used firefox as my only webbrowser up until today, i go and install mozilla, and it becomes the default browser, firefox is still default if i'm in xfce, but if i'm in fluxbox mozilla is default... any idea's why?
[03:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> If you set firefox to be the default in the Fluxbox environment, does it ignore that setting?
[03:22] <jdrake> I keep having thunar crash when I try to get properties of a trash item
[03:45] <kalikiana_> jdrake, still there?
[03:45] <jdrake> yes
[03:45] <kalikiana_> I had that, too and Benedikt told me how to fix it: update your mp3tags plugin.
[03:47] <jdrake> So you are saying that a plugin is allowed to crash the file manager?
[03:47] <Sharn> Rofl. It doesn't have to be allowed.
[03:48] <kalikiana_> jdrake, Actually the plugin does not work with Thunar 0.8, just update it
[03:49] <jdrake> So I can compile the thing and it will work?
[03:49] <kalikiana_> yes
[03:53] <jdrake> When I switch applications it seems to take a long delay to switch, like from xchat to firefox or a terminal takes easily 500 to 1000ms to completely be ready to use
[03:56] <jdrake> yep, that seems to fix it
[03:56] <jdrake> Any way of getting properties of multiple items?
[04:09] <tripppy>  how do i setup a program to start on startup?
[04:23] <cellofellow> tripppy: put it in the dialog in Applications -> Settings -> Autostarted...
[04:25] <tripppy> i want to autostart Krfb. can i just type that in or does it need to link to the DIR its installed in?
[04:29] <cellofellow> just krfb should work
[04:34] <kalikiana_> jdrake, nope, no properties of multiple files; try pcmanfm if you need that ;)
[04:34] <jdrake> pcmanfm?
[04:35] <kalikiana_> jdrake, it's similar to Thunar, with some differences: http://pcmanfm.sourceforge.net/
[04:36] <kalikiana_> I don't like it as much, so it depends on your usage
[04:36] <tripppy> cellofellow, no it didnt. dang it
[04:36] <cellofellow> well, maybe /usr/bin/krfb
[04:36] <cellofellow> or something like that
[04:36] <tripppy> kk
[06:10] <cryosphere> i have a bizzare problem: my computer on which I recently installed xubuntu will fail to recognize USD devices and connect to the internet(recognize my ethernet card?) 9 out of 10 times I turn it on
[06:14] <jdrake> USD ~= USB?
[06:14] <cryosphere> right
[06:14] <cryosphere> sorry
[06:14] <jdrake> Does dmesg show anything interesting?
[06:15] <maxamillion> cryosphere: open a terminal and type "ifconfig" and tell me if there is something like "eth0" listed?
[06:15] <jdrake> Or infact can you post the dmesg output
[06:15] <maxamillion> !pastebin
[06:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:15] <cryosphere> well now there would be
[06:15] <maxamillion> post it there
[06:15] <cryosphere> and before also
[06:15] <cryosphere> AAH,
[06:15] <cryosphere> no only eht1
[06:15] <cryosphere> *eth1
[06:16] <maxamillion> cryosphere: you have two ethernet devices or is it a laptop with wifi?
[06:16] <jdrake> As for usb, have you tried the irqpoll kernel option by chance?  I have to do that personally on my RS200 system.
[06:16] <cryosphere> laptop with wifi
[06:16] <maxamillion> cryosphere: you need it to do ethernet at the moment?
[06:16] <cryosphere> well the frustrating thing is that I dont do anything to make it work
[06:16] <cryosphere> just keep rebooting it until all USB devices work and I able to connect to the internet
[06:17] <cryosphere> max: yes I do need ethernet to be here
[06:17] <maxamillion> cryosphere: well it sounds to me like (with the internet issue) that the wireless card is just taking over ... so do "sudo ifup eth0" and then "sudo dhclient eth0"
[06:19] <cryosphere> well, let me find the address to an extended pastebin about this
[06:22] <cryosphere> http://www.pastebin.ca/361526
[06:22] <cryosphere> go to line 144
[06:25] <cryosphere> how can I tell if eth1 corresponds to my wireless card
[06:25] <maxamillion> cryosphere: ok ... looks like it functions
[06:25] <maxamillion> cryosphere: uhmmm... not sure actually, i have always just known which was which
[06:26] <istill316> HEEEY
[06:27] <cryosphere> but this is not an isolated issue of connecting to the internet, but a larger issue that affects both ability to communicate with USB devices and the dsl modem
[06:27] <maxamillion> istill316: hello
[06:27] <cryosphere> unless not being able to communicate to the modem somehow disables my USB ports .. . . :)
[06:28] <istill316> hey hey
[06:28] <istill316> linux doesn't like me :(
[06:28] <maxamillion> cryosphere: i don't see why your ethernet would affect your usb
[06:28] <maxamillion> istill316: not true, linux likes everyone
[06:28] <istill316> then why won't it play my videos right?
[06:29] <maxamillion> istill316: do you have the codecs installed?
[06:29] <cryosphere> max: right so it has to be a larger issue that includes those two
[06:29] <istill316> as far as I know
[06:29] <maxamillion> istill316: video drivers?
[06:29] <istill316> they all appear washed-out though
[06:29] <maxamillion> cryosphere: hardware problem maybe?
[06:29] <maxamillion> istill316: what player you using?
[06:30] <istill316> at the moment, kaffeine, but I get the same results with the other 5 players I tried
[06:30] <cryosphere> max: i think it has to be
[06:31] <cryosphere> max: IF fact a if you read that pastebin
[06:32] <cryosphere> max: around the time this nonsense started a msg started displaying" Unrecognized memory module . .  may effect stability, Press Esc to continue and its still there ever time I restart/turn on my computer
[06:32] <cryosphere> however windows seems to be ok  . . .
[06:32] <maxamillion> istill316: yeah ... i honestly wouldn't know, i don't do much media stuffs
[06:32] <cryosphere> its a dual-boot btw
[06:33] <istill316> k :\
[06:33] <maxamillion> cryosphere: you run memtest86+ on your machine to see if in fact there is a bad module? ... windows tends to be able to ignore bad memory up to a certain point of failure
[06:34] <cryosphere> i think i have something like that in the boot menu
[06:34] <cryosphere> or is that something I can run right now in the terminal
[06:35] <maxamillion> no, it has to be run either off the live cd or from the boot menu, it can't run in a host OS because the host OS will be doing memory management and the program will not be able to affectively check it
[06:35] <maxamillion> it == the ram
[06:36] <cryosphere> ok, so Im pretty sure I have a bad module - do you think just replacing the ram will do it?
[06:36] <maxamillion> probably
[06:36] <maxamillion> strange things happen when you have bad ram
[06:36] <Sharn> Stupid livecds.
[06:37] <cryosphere> ok, well thanks, i makes sense to me that this is hardware thing
[06:37] <maxamillion> Sharn: ?
[06:37] <maxamillion> cryosphere: :)
[06:37] <cryosphere> and I really dont want to blow money on new laptop
[06:38] <cryosphere> i should read something about bad memory modules and linux
[06:38] <maxamillion> cryosphere: yeah ... money is a horrible thing to waste
[06:39] <cryosphere> esp when i can make this crappy emachine run pretty well under linux
[06:39] <maxamillion> :)
[06:42] <Sharn> maxamillion: My friend gets an error trying to boot the LiveCD. He's never used linux before, so he can't give a very detailed description either.
[06:42] <maxamillion> :(
[06:55] <istill316> I'm getting an error during some package installation:
[06:55] <istill316>  perl -MCPAN -e 'shell'
[06:56] <istill316> oopos not that
[06:56] <istill316> Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN4> line 4.
[06:57] <Jester45> at line 104 of stack.pm it looks like you have used an uninitialized value
[06:57] <istill316> thanks :P
[06:57] <Jester45> :)
[07:33] <cryosphere> how would i use syslog to track down a possible irq problem
[08:26] <kalikiana> http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/thread19266.html
[08:27] <cryosphere> if someone want to help, I compared the log between the good and the bad boot at http://www.pastebin.ca/361614, i just grepped for some key words
[09:30] <tripppy> how do i browse windows samba shares?
[09:57] <kalikiana> tripppy, either fusesmb or pyNeighborhood
[09:58] <tripppy> kalikiana, thankx
[09:58] <kalikiana> :)
[11:25] <blizz> is there already a fix for that bcm43xx wireless problem in 2.6.20-8 kernels?
[11:25] <blizz> i downloaded a 4.x firmware from openwrt but it doesnt seem to work
[11:26] <danboid> Hi!
[11:26] <blizz> hiho
[11:27] <kalikiana> hi
[11:27] <danboid> Is it not possible to delete icons from the xfce desktop without using Thunar?
[11:28] <kalikiana> danboid, What do you mean exactly? You should be able to delete file icons via the context menu..
[11:30] <danboid> Thats strange- it seems to be working fine now. Didn't last time I tried
[11:30] <danboid> :D
[11:31] <kalikiana> :)
[11:33] <danboid> The xfce menu editor in xubuntu 6.10 doesn't display any of the entries except for the quit and settings sub-menu. How do I edit all the other sub-menus (Accessories, Graphics, Multimedia etc etc)
[11:34] <danboid> or are they strictly auto-generated?
[11:35] <gpocentek> they are generated using the .desktop files sitting in /usr/share/applications
[11:36] <danboid> so I just delete/add files from there then? Can you not do this from the menu editor?
[11:37] <gpocentek> you need to add/remove files
[11:40] <danboid> I'm very happy with xubuntu overall, there is just one thing missing that I liked about nautilus and konq and that is that they both had image resizing (imagemagick) plugins. I don't suppose i can get something similar for thunar or does anyone know of a standalone graphical batch image resizing tool?
[11:41] <gpocentek> gimp :)
[11:42] <danboid> Yes, gimp has a batch resizing plugin but it didn't work last time I tried it
[11:42] <kalikiana> danboid, you might try gqview or mirage if you want quick images edits
[11:43] <kalikiana> oh, it's batch resizing mainly? then gimp is probably the tool of choice :P
[11:45] <danboid> as i say gimp doesn't work for that, unfortunately
[11:45] <danboid> unless a new version of the resizing plugin got released recently
[11:53] <danboid> anyone here using feisty?
[11:54] <blizz> yes
[11:55] <blizz> ff herd4 with that 2.6.20-8 kernel which has crappy support for most bcm43xx cards *turns crazy*
[11:57] <danboid> have you tried using hibernate under feisty? It works fine for me under Edgy except for the fact that USB doesn't work after booting up from hibernation and it requires I boot normally to get USB working again
[11:57] <danboid> most of the time
[11:58] <blizz> hmpf, for mod in ehci_hcd ohci_hcd; do rmmod $mod; modprobe $mod; done ;-)
[11:59] <danboid> let me try
[12:00] <danboid> so i tried pasting
[12:00] <danboid> for mod in ehci_hcd ohci_hcd; do rmmod $mod; modprobe $mod
[12:01] <danboid> into a root terminal but all I get is a '>'
[12:01] <danboid> Wrong shell maybe? I pasted it into Terminal?
[12:03] <danboid> I know nothing of shell scripting, as you can tell
[12:05] <danboid> Doing "modprobe ehci_hcd; modprobe ohci_hcd" didn't fix it either so a reboot it is I think
[12:07] <danboid> Suppose I'll just have to give up thar quick hibernate boot until this gets sorted out as having to reboot normaly to get USB working defeats the whole point
[12:08] <kalikiana> danboid, try "for mod in ehci_hcd ohci_hcd; do rmmod $mod; modprobe $mod; done"
[12:08] <kalikiana> but I'm no shellscript pro either :/
[12:11] <danboid> That has caused my Terminal to enter limbo. I can still click on its menus but the command isn't finishing and CTRL+C is having no effect :(
[12:11] <danboid> so I've just closed it
[12:12] <danboid> it was a good idea tho, thanks
[12:18] <kalikiana> danboid, I'm sorry that it made your Terminal freak out, I only remembered that done belongs to for loops
[12:43] <Ramla> Anybody know if there's a panel plugin or similar to start/stop screensaver daemon?
[12:47] <Ramla> And, while I'm at it.. It seems xscreensaver is not installed on my system, but yet there seems to be something that does monitor powersaving, just wondering what it might be
[12:54] <tripppy> Ramla, i just did a xscreensaver-demo
[12:54] <tripppy> and turned it off
[12:58] <Ramla> Hmm.. this is akward, when i watch a dvd with totem my monitor powers off every 30 minutes, and trying to find / make a plugin or a script to turn it off I don't even know what I should be turning off
[12:59] <tripppy> settings - settings manager
[12:59] <tripppy> screen saver
[12:59] <tripppy> n
[12:59] <tripppy> blank after 2hrs
[02:10] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:55] <Prisoner_> hi
[03:56] <fijam> hello
[03:57] <Prisoner_> you running xubuntu?
[03:57] <fijam> certainly
[03:58] <Prisoner_> I'm finally going to get it installed on my main box either tomorrow or Tuesday
[03:58] <fijam> That's great
[03:58] <Prisoner_> I finished partitioning the drive last night
[03:58] <Prisoner_> going to set up a dual boot with XP
[03:59] <Prisoner_> set up separate partitions for swap, ext3, and a FAT32 partition to share files with WIndows
[04:02] <Prisoner_> I basically don't think I want to deal with Windows Vista when they pull support for XP
[04:02] <fijam> true
[04:03] <Prisoner_> I've been running Xubuntu on my old 400mhz machine and it seems to run OK
[04:03] <Prisoner_> my main machine is a 1.583GHZ with 512mb RAM, sure it'll run great on that
[04:03] <fijam> Sure thing. I am currently also on Celeron 400
[04:04] <Prisoner_> my 400mhz is AMDK6 based with 384mb RAM
[04:04] <Prisoner_> I did find a problem though, XFburn doesn't want to burn a CDROM from an .iso file
[04:05] <Prisoner_> I loaded K3B on the machine and that solved the problem
[04:53] <jdrake> I have had a problem twice yesterday where thunar got stuck in a drag and drop operation and I couldn't cancel it. The first time I tried to kill it, but it ended up being a zombie process - had to kill X. Any other ways to fix this?
[05:08] <killerk> hello everone
[05:09] <killerk> i am in need of help, i have a Netgear MA521 Wireless card but have no clue how to install it
[05:09] <killerk> can someone help me
[05:10] <jdrake> ndiswrapper would be a good start
[05:10] <jdrake> It willl wrap the windows driver that is provided with the card.
[05:10] <jdrake> It is not fool proof mind you.
[05:10] <jdrake> I have had only good luck with it when using the latest version. But that was many months ago.
[05:11] <ssbm> but i was reading online and it says that they have an official linux driver for my chipset
[05:11] <ssbm> RealTek 8180L
[05:11] <jdrake> ok, good luck with it :P
[05:11] <jdrake> If ifconfig shows your card then luck you.
[05:12] <ssbm> the thing is i have no clue how to do anything
[05:12] <ssbm> where do i start
[05:12] <ssbm> install driver first? or what
[05:12] <jdrake> Does ifconfig show anything
[05:12] <ssbm> what do i do, go into terminal and type ifconfig?
[05:13] <ssbm> on their website they have an official driver for it, but i dont know which kernel xubuntu uses?
[05:15] <ssbm> also i currently have not installed xubuntu on the system with the wireless card, i just want instructions on how to do it so that way when i do install it i know how to get internet
[05:15] <jdrake> yes you want to type ifconfig
[05:16] <ssbm> if it shows up what do i do?
[05:16] <jdrake> The plain truth here: If it has a driver for it (that is a native kernel driver) then it would be included and automatically detected. If not, then it might be in the restricted modules package. Otherwise you would use ndiswrapper.
[05:16] <jdrake> I honestly do not remember how to configure them beyond that, the laptop I set uses FreeBSD which is a different setup.
[05:17] <ssbm> o
[05:17] <jdrake> I did manage to get it setup on linux, but it was painful.
[05:17] <ssbm> so your saying if an official driver for it exists then i should just be able to plug it in and use it?
[05:17] <jdrake> right
[05:17] <ssbm> ok
[05:17] <ssbm> well ill give it a try
[05:17] <jdrake> I don't know if ubuntu comes with handy things for network configuration like that.
[05:18] <jdrake> However, there was a nice applet you might want to find. I have to look up the name.
[05:18] <ssbm> what about xubuntu?
[05:18] <jdrake> 'Network Manager' I believe it was called.
[05:19] <ssbm> does that come with xubuntu?
[05:19] <jdrake> Mainly with 'ubuntu' itself, but there is no reason why the gnome or kde frontend wouldn't work with xfce.
[05:20] <jdrake> I believe it puts an icon in the system tray
[05:20] <jdrake> yes, it even says it will work
[05:20] <jdrake> network-manager-gnome is the package
[05:20] <ssbm> does xubuntu come with a package manager like synaptic
[05:21] <ssbm> cause i would be able to install it through there right?
[05:22] <jdrake> It uses synaptic
[05:22] <jdrake> and yes
[05:22] <ssbm> also which do u reccommend for an old system, xubuntu, or ubuntu or whatever other versions of ubuntu there are?
[05:22] <ssbm> this is a really old system im gonna install it on
[05:23] <ssbm> P III Processor
[05:23] <jdrake> What speed
[05:23] <jdrake> How much ram
[05:23] <ssbm> i am pretty sure 128mb of ram
[05:23] <ssbm> but it might be less
[05:24] <ssbm> i bareley ever use it since currently it has xp on it and whenever i try to do something it freezes, which is the reason why i want to use xubuntu because i heard it runs better on older machines
[05:25] <jdrake> yes you want xubuntu, but I would highly recommend upgrading the ram.
[05:25] <ssbm> well its a laptop, so its really hard to upgrade
[05:25] <jdrake> 256mb or better is what I personally recommend. It might be usable otherwise, but no guarantees.
[05:26] <jdrake> Make sure you have a good 512mb or more of swap space.
[05:26] <ssbm> on the xubuntu website they say it can run with only 64mb of ram
[05:26] <jdrake> Also - perform a memory test, it might not be windows' fault it is freezing.
[05:26] <ssbm> im pretty sure its my display driver
[05:26] <jdrake> They can say anything they want, I can't contradict them as i have no tried it. I just know how easily it ran on a P2-400 with 640mb of ram compared with 128mb.
[05:27] <jdrake> 128mb was slow, 640mb was perfectly usable
[05:27] <ssbm> because every time it freezes after a while the screen resolution will shrink and it say that that the display driver stopped working
[05:28] <jdrake> interesting
[05:28] <jdrake> Have you downloaded and burned xubuntu yet?
[05:28] <jdrake> If  not, I recommend you get the 'alternative' cd, I always use that one because of its low memory requirements.
[05:29] <ssbm> yea i am downloading the alternate cd right now
[05:29] <ssbm> its almost done
[05:31] <jdrake> Very good, I am going to prepare some Red River Cereal for Breakfast now.
[05:32] <ssbm> lol ok
[05:41] <ssbm> thanks for your help
[06:01] <BrendanM> So when I try to log in, I just immediately get kicked back to the login screen. Suggestions?
[06:03] <Montrose> Excuse me, I know this isn't a handheld chat, but are there any alternative (To Windows) OS systems for an iPAQ other than Familiar project (I don't have the knowledge to make it work, and support ... isn't as good as support for Xubuntu, heh.)?
[06:04] <grazie> BrendanM: Do you not get any messages?
[06:05] <BrendanM> None
[06:05] <BrendanM> I was able to log in as root from recovery mode
[06:05] <BrendanM> I get the spinning wheel loading symbol, then it goes back to the login screen
[06:06] <grazie> BrendanM: have you tried any other sessions from the login screen?
[06:06] <BrendanM> changing the session didn't seem to help either.
[06:06] <BrendanM> I'm thinking it's a file permissions issue
[06:06] <BrendanM> what are the permissions on my home folder supposed to be and how can I check them?
[06:06] <grazie> BrendanM: what changed to make this happen?
[06:08] <BrendanM> I installed some libraries in synaptic to let me connect to a Dell DJ
[06:08] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:09] <grazie> BrendanM: your /home/user permissions should be 755 but I doubt that's the problem
[06:10] <grazie> BrendanM: what libraries? Samba?
[06:10] <BrendanM> libnjb-cil and its dependencies
[06:11] <BrendanM> I have very little free hard drive space left, if that's an issue
[06:11] <grazie> BrendanM: it certainly would be an issus!
[06:11] <grazie> *issue
[06:12] <grazie> BrendanM: I think you would get a message though
[06:12] <BrendanM> I had like 9.9 MB free, I just deleted some stuff
[06:13] <BrendanM> why would that prevent me from logging in to my user account, but root on recovery mode would still be okay?
[06:13] <grazie> BrendanM: 'cos of X
[06:13] <BrendanM> alright, I'm going to reboot and try to log in. I'll be back if it doesn't work.
[06:57] <BrendanM> Hey, grazie, it was the lack of hard drive space. Thanks for the help
[06:57] <BrendanM> Any idea how much space I need to keep free to prevent that from happening again?
[07:01] <grazie> BrendanM: np. I can't give a precise figure, but at least 20% of the disk is recommended especially if it's a small driive
[07:10] <gpocentek> sudo apt-get install bzr
[07:10] <gpocentek> sorry
[07:13] <grazie> :)
[07:14] <BrendanM> yeah, I can't keep that much free.
[07:14] <BrendanM> I thought that was the whole point of having a swap partition
[07:14] <BrendanM> so it didn't matter if your main partition got filled
[07:37] <soular> hello
[07:39] <soular> how can I get flashplayer to install for all users?
[07:43] <grazie> soular: it should be available to all users after installation
[07:43] <Kresjah> Hi! I'm considering setting up Xubuntu on one of my older machines which is supposed to work as a gateway. The old machine is the only machine able to access the internet connection directly, and there are two other machines that will use it as a gateway to get to internet. I haven't been using any linux before installing Ubuntu recently on my laptop, so consider me a newbie. Can someone point me to a guide to setting up a Xubuntu gateway, or r
[07:49] <soular> I installed it and it doesn't work for the other user
[08:27] <pizza> so i just installed xubuntu on another partition of my macbook pro. this one is a windows partition. i can't connect to thar internets while in xubuntu, do i need ndiswrapper?
[08:33] <pizza> halp?
[08:44] <bilbo-gengis> Hello.
[08:53] <jdrake> pizza, ndiswrapper might work for you, to try get the latest version. Back in October when I was setting up my laptop I needed the latest one.
[08:57] <Kresjah> Hi! I'm considering setting up Xubuntu on one of my older machines which is supposed to work as a gateway. The old machine is the only machine able to access the internet connection directly, and there are two other machines that will use it as a gateway to get to internet. I haven't been using any linux before installing Ubuntu recently on my laptop, so consider me a newbie. Can someone point me to a guide to setting up a Xubuntu gateway, or r
[09:23] <blizz> does someone know the difference between lufs and fuse?
[09:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> They're fairly similar, but FUSE has had updates more recently than 2003.
[09:29] <blizz> lol, lufs is that old?
[09:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yup.
[09:29] <blizz> well, somehow i knew this was the case with it ;-)
[09:38] <blizz> and is there an efficient ftp filesystem?
[09:46] <scooter> Hi
[09:46] <scooter> I have a question re switching to xubuntu
[09:47] <scooter> I need a file manager that can do smb and ssh/sftp
[09:47] <scooter> are there any others than konqueror or nautilus?
[09:57] <grazie> scooter: thunar doesn't do exactly what you want, but you may be interested in looking at the following link
[09:58] <grazie> scooter: >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131
[10:17] <scooter> grazie, thanks, I did see that thread.
[10:17] <scooter> I don't need a permanent mount point
[10:18] <scooter> I need to jump onto a windows share ad-hoc for admin purposes
[10:18] <scooter> as I run a samba shop with ~100 XP clients
[10:19] <scooter> can I install nautilus without dragging in all that gnome gunk?
[10:22] <slow-motion> n8
[10:22] <grazie> scooter: not done it myself, but I think your gunk description would be accurate
[10:23] <scooter> is konqueror any better/worse?
[10:23] <grazie> dunno
[10:35] <kristjans> can anyone recommend me a game that would run on xubuntu, and could be played 1v1 vs. a person an a windows
[10:35] <kristjans> computer?
[10:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> What kind of game?  FPS?
[10:36] <kristjans> can be simple
[10:36] <kristjans> has
[10:36] <kristjans> to be fun
[10:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> BZflag might be what you're looking for.
[10:37] <kristjans> thank you :
[10:47] <kristjans> can it be run in windowed mode?
[10:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> YUp.
[10:53] <kristjans> hmm.. how?:P
[10:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> There's a button you press that toggles between the two.  You can set it in 'options', but I think it defaults to F1.
[11:22] <Jester45> !vnc
[11:22] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:22] <Jester45> !FreeNX
[11:23] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[11:24] <RememberPOL> X crashes with this: (EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0) .....even though I don't have "Load "wfb"" in the module section... any idea what's up with this?
[11:27] <grazie> RememberPOL: You have a nvidia card? What updates have you made to your machine?
[11:28] <RememberPOL> Yes I have an nvidia card and I have made no updates to anything in quite a long time...
[11:28] <RememberPOL> This is like a freak accident, last night I fell asleep and when I woke up my laptop was completely frozen for some reason and when I restarted... this happens
[11:28] <Jester45> RememberPOL: have you upgraded packages? im not sure if that could change it
[11:29] <RememberPOL> Yeah, I've installed the drivers using alberto milones repository but the last update was probably over a month ago.
[11:32] <grazie> RememberPOL: there appears to still be problem with matching kernel and driver in the latest packages. Have tried booting with an old kernel?
[11:33] <RememberPOL> hmm no
[11:33] <grazie> give it a go :)
[11:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> RememberPOL: Possibly useful reference: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2038808
[11:37] <RememberPOL> ty