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fanscorebonjour12:13
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ChaosEddieca va12:13
fanscorej'ai besoin d'aide, je comprend rien a linux12:13
fanscoreui et toi?12:13
word!fe12:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:14
KanRiNiNIs there a channel for aiglx?  because #aiglx has like 5 users12:14
KanRiNiNI can't get it to function in kubuntu12:14
ChaosEddieje ne parle francais tres bien12:14
word!fr12:14
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:14
xenoli again get DCOP error12:14
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fanscore!fr12:16
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:16
surgysomeone need me?12:18
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ChaosEddie:(12:18
ChaosEddieapparently no one needs you12:18
cpk1that depends, you available next saturday to go bank robbing?12:18
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xenolcan anyone tell me wat it s this? i cant sudo kate file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6485/12:19
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cpk1you shouldnt use sudo with kate anyways12:19
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BluesKajkdesu kate ...is the way to do it12:19
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misterQdoes linux freeze?12:22
wordno...12:22
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cpk1I've had one lock up12:23
cpk1ever12:23
SlackRatkdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst12:23
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wordif anything locks up, it's x not linux12:23
SlackRatdepends on the distro, a well made distro no12:23
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cpk1no, it was linux, hardware problem though12:24
SlackRatslackware never froze on me, but suse has12:24
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cpk1inerted a module for it and locked me up12:24
SlackRati think my freeze ups were yast related then12:25
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mshadehardware issues can cause freezes12:25
mshadedying hard drives can cause freezes12:25
SlackRata clunky overlay on a linux system12:25
mshadeand I/O wait can cause freezes12:25
SlackRatdefinitely12:25
mshadebut it's much less prevalent12:25
tjzdoes anyone have any suggestions on any p2p programs to use on kubuntu?12:25
SlackRatmshade, i wont tell anyone youre here, if you wont tell anyone im here....   :-P12:26
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daleachsorry a lil off topic but does anyone know how to turn off these notifications of people entering and leaving the chatroom in xchat ?12:26
SlackRatp2p for what?12:26
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tjzmusic and stuff12:26
SlackRatdont look at them.... heh12:26
tjzlike ares12:26
cpk1bit torrent is good12:27
cpk1but thats not an app =P12:27
cpk1i'm using ktorrent right now12:27
cpk1azureus is also pretty decent12:27
tjzok can u send one of those 2 me?12:27
laemule is the best12:27
tjzcpk      Crooked Preacher Killer12:28
cpk1tjz: just use apt12:28
labut it takes me some time until i will instal it.........12:28
tjzok kool12:28
mshadeSlackRat: :-p12:28
lai'm boring cat12:28
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arriesphi12:29
mshadeSlackRat: I still love slack on the desktop, but I'm running it only on servers now.. Ubuntu has the full disk on my desktop and laptop now12:29
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SlackRatyeah, but im defaulting on my lappy these days to pcbsd12:30
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SlackRatfor speed and ports12:30
mshadehow's the wifi support in bsd?12:31
SlackRatkubuntu is my 'god i just wanna play some music while i try and write something for this deadline12:31
SlackRatexcellent in my expereince12:31
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tjzwhats tha best search engine for ktorrent to get music videos12:31
SlackRati have to reconfgiure if i boot into ubuntu every time12:31
SlackRatbsd just picks up from boot12:31
mshadeSlackRat: knetworkmanager12:32
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SlackRatruns as fast as slack with half the RAM12:32
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mshadeSlackRat: repeat after me.. knetworkmanager :)12:32
SlackRatknetworkmanager12:32
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SlackRatnow that i said it?12:32
mshadeit's been my holy grail for mobile connectivity12:32
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khaije1who's pumped about kde4, eh?12:33
SlackRatthats how i set it up, maybe ill recheck my config12:33
khaije1anyone know what ubuntu release we'll see that in?12:33
mshadeit remembers keys when it picks up the network, connects automatically, gives you lists of available networks, reconnects when the connection drops12:33
SlackRatif kde4 has gotten rid of artsd, im pumped12:33
khaije1SlackRat: ya, it's out12:33
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mshadekhaije1: really?12:33
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SlackRati ll check back into it thanks mshade.....thought i did all that , but maybe not12:33
mshadeSlackRat: i had to change /etc/sysconfig/networks before it worked right12:34
SlackRatdid it once on the bsd and no more work......12:34
SlackRataha!12:34
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SlackRatdidnt have to edit diddly in bsd12:34
khaije1mshade: oh ya, thats old news, they're adding an abstraction layer for a pluggable backend, from gstreamer to NMM etc, it's intensely cool! but thats just one of the goodies, which is why i can't wait12:34
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mshadekhaije1: yeah, k4 looks awesome :)12:35
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mshadeSlackRat: look at /etc/network/interfaces12:35
SlackRatxcellent12:35
mshadeSlackRat: each line should look like this:12:35
SlackRat<kicks artsd corpse>12:35
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mshadeauto eth012:35
mshadeiface eth0 inet dhcp12:35
khaije1it will be the point that i can recommend linux to anyone, i've been waiting forever for that moment12:35
khaije1SlackRat: haha!12:35
mshadeSlackRat: arts served its purpose for a while..12:36
khaije1mshade: is E still relevant after aiglx?12:36
mshadebefore jack and alsa supported multiple channels easily12:36
SlackRati almost gave up on ubuntu this week, till i started using kubuntu resources12:36
mshadekhaije1: I still like its stuff.  It's also much lighter weight than the openGL based stuff12:36
mshadeSlackRat: i still needed native windows to fix my ipod, too.. though that's really apple's fault more than anyone else12:37
khaije1SlackRat: whats kubuntu resources?12:37
SlackRatforums and irc12:37
khaije1mshade: what was wrong w/ it? i haven't needed windows in years, ipod or no12:37
SlackRattoo much white noise and lollercons on standard ubuntu12:37
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SlackRat900 + people scrolling by.....bleh12:38
mshadekhaije1: i was getting a particular error message -- 'use iTunes to restore'12:38
mshadeon my nano12:38
khaije1SlackRat: it's a website + irc?12:38
mshadei tried wine, windows and itunes in vmware, etc12:38
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mshadein the end i just had to restore it with itunes, like it said.12:38
SlackRatirc on freenode and theres a kubuntu forums site12:38
mshadeusing the iPod is fine with amarok etc12:39
SlackRatsmaller, less categories, easier to find how tos and get answers12:39
mshadeSlackRat: yeah, a lot of lamers have jumped on the *buntu wagon :-p12:39
khaije1mshade: oh man that sucks, interesting how apple manages to tie you in to their services no matter what isn't it?12:39
SlackRatand since i use kde most all the tme.....12:39
mshadekhaije1: all i needed to do was reflash the firmware, but you can't download it from anywhere.  dd would have worked fine if i had a backup of it12:39
khaije1SlackRat: haha, by lamers do you mean 'the rest of the world' ?12:40
SlackRattoo many, i think sometimes, makes it hard for people who want to get things working and add to the project12:40
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mshade(like the whole diggnation..)12:40
mshadekhaije1: ;)12:40
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SlackRathad a four page forum flame war over why isnt there an advanced section to the forum for those odd, config problems for people comfortable with linux12:40
khaije1mshade: lolz-asaurus hex12:40
SlackRatheh, diggnation12:41
khaije1mshade: thats good to know about the firmware, people are asking me to fix their ipods all the time, thx12:41
SlackRatwe should start indiggnation12:41
mshadeSlackRat: LOL!!!12:41
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mshadeit's taken :(12:41
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SlackRatur kidding?12:42
SlackRatdamn, have to have a lawyer follow me round copyrighting everything i say now12:42
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SlackRatlol12:42
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mshadeheheh12:43
mshadeyou get an apache error at http://indiggnation.com/12:43
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fanscore!fr12:44
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:44
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SlackRatkinda makes you indignant , eh?12:45
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mshade;)12:45
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khaije1since june  0512:46
SlackRatfinally found a bit of sanity in their kubuntu irc and forums12:46
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SlackRatless lollercons12:46
SlackRatand lamers12:47
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khaije1SlackRat: yr not part troll are you?12:48
SlackRatnope12:48
SlackRatjust burnt on the whole phenomeon this week.....12:48
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khaije1how do you mean?12:48
SlackRatmisleading info, lots of ado about nothing.....i know theres so many people working their asses off12:48
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SlackRatbut theres a flood of literal adolescents running around ,,,,,rant and rave fanboys, gets annoying12:49
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SlackRatwith less attention atm on kubuntu, you find less of all that12:50
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SlackRatxubuntu is probaly the zen center of the universe12:50
SlackRatheh12:50
khaije1SlackRat: was there some event or something? i must have missed it all12:50
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premier_hello, my computer has not been shutting down properly12:51
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SlackRatnope, not really, it reminded me of running suse and going to suse irc support......it s bedlam12:51
khaije1i use xubuntu on my laptop, the chan is *rarely* very active12:51
premier_I get a black screen for a long time when I log out of kde, and sometimes I have to crash it12:51
SlackRatwith people dispensing clearly inapproapirate and wrong info that could trash some new guys system12:51
SlackRatyeah, like kubuntu, its a bit out of the limelight.....12:52
SlackRatthis channel is more of what one might expect from a linux channel......but the suse and ubuntu?12:52
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SlackRati steer clear of now12:52
khaije1where do you fall on the whole kde vs gnome intifada?12:52
premier_khaije1: I was just trying gnome today, but i crashed.  It was very strange12:53
SlackRatthreres a new intifada? or just the ongoing flame wars?12:53
khaije1premier_: can you copy 'tail /var/log/syslog'  to the paste bin?12:53
premier_Its like it tried to load up my kde settings, that didnt end well...12:53
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SlackRatbye12:53
premier_http://pastebin.ca/36267412:54
khaije1SlackRat: heh, same old stuff, i don't usually chime in that much but it seems like gnome is better, at producing advanced tech, but kde is better and incorporating it cohesively12:54
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premier_Ive rebooted since I tried gnome12:54
khaije1just makes me wonder about the future sometimes12:54
SlackRatkde user, but if gnome or xfce or flux works, great....its about choice12:55
SlackRati got a vm of etch running gnome atm somewhere12:55
SlackRatjust not what im used to and not the options i prefer....atm12:55
SlackRatactually like xfce better than gnome12:55
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premier_SlackRat: maybe Im a gui addict, but xfce is to simple to useful imho, but I havent used it enough to know12:56
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premier_how could I experiment with enlightenment on my computer?12:57
SlackRatme neither, but its fast and light and i can manuevre round imo easier than gnome if im coming from kde12:57
SlackRatsit crosslegged in front of your screen and chant OM12:57
SlackRatoh....u mean the desktop12:57
khaije1SlackRat: nothing wrong w/ that, there is something that feels natural and appealing about it where as kde can feel like alien technology at times12:58
SlackRatused it so much on so many distros its real comfortable for me12:58
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khaije1premier_: apt-cache sarch enlightenment12:58
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premier_khaije1: do you have anything to say about that log it pastebinned?12:59
SlackRattho i think that kde  (and OO atm) might be starting to add too many buggy useless features for their own good12:59
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khaije1premier_:  actually could you dump more, instead of showing shutdown it only showed the startup info, maybe try tail -100 /var/log/syslog01:00
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weathermanhi, if my provider says it doesn't support pppoe does it mean that I don't have any chance at all to connect through pppoe?01:02
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premier_SlackRat: if thats true, they'll be falling down the windows route.  As a former microsoft user, I can tell you that that windows contains so much useless features that run in the background, consume reasources, and crash your computer01:02
khaije1weatherman: dsl?01:02
premier_http://pastebin.ca/36267801:02
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weathermankhaije1: yes sir :)01:03
SlackRatyup , could be a problem01:03
SlackRati think ive seen more feeping creaturism and buggy problems in kde this year than ever before01:04
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premier_khaije1: I was experimenting with beryl, gnome, kde, in different combinations, and I caused a lot of crashes and stuff01:04
khaije1feeping creaturism? not that *IS* frightening01:04
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Dr_willisI liked some of the features of that Mandriva Mettis live cd i saw the other day01:05
premier_a pun on creeping featurism, right?01:05
SlackRatheh, yeah01:05
SlackRatMettis??01:05
SolidSourceafter installing azureus through adept...does anyones NOT start up, no matter how many times you try to start it?01:05
Dr_willisyea a fancy desktop thang.. ads some neat featres.. but dosent need a high end video card01:06
khaije1premier_: i hate to say it but i'm not quite sure what to make of the problem you described01:06
SlackRatbtw, the duvall distro (after Mandriva dumped him) is based on debian i hear....01:06
premier_beryl-style, or just fancy?01:06
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SolidSource!acroread01:07
ubotuacroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.9-0.0.ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 22375 kB, installed size 54700 kB (Only available for i386)01:07
Dr_willisdifferent from beryl - not as '3dish' and more useable in ways01:07
Dr_willisCheck out the live cd some time.01:07
HymnToLifeSlackRat, based on Ubuntu, even01:07
premier_khaije1: Actually, Ive been having a lot of trouble with linux.  Given that Im told that its supposed to be more stable, I wondering if there's something Im doing wrong01:07
Dr_willisI couldent get the live cd to install properly however. :(01:07
HymnToLifeI tested the first alpha live CD of it01:07
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HymnToLifeits Kubuntu with different graphics01:08
Dr_willisgiven the problems ive had with windows... Linux is a peice of angle food cake with frosting.01:09
Dr_willis:)01:09
premier_google mandriva mettis return almost no results... mispelling?01:09
Dr_willischeck the disrtowatch web site01:09
DaSkreechDr_willis: What is?01:09
Dr_willislet me see01:09
DaSkreechDr_willis: mettis?01:10
premier_well, maybe its my imagination, or maybe its because Im a noob and Im playing around way to much, but it doesnt seem to crash/fail more that I'd like01:10
MuJhttp://www.mandriva.com/projects/metisse/01:10
DaSkreechpremier_: ^^^ :)01:10
Dr_willisMandriva-2007.0-One-Metisse.i586.iso01:10
Dr_willis1 t 2 s's :)01:10
SlackRathow is ulteo?01:11
Dr_willisHmm..  i need to install vmware some day01:11
khaije1premier_: alot of the statements people make about linux aren't really saying what it *is* as much as what it can be, ubuntu is intended to included lots of new software, part of the reason why it's popular, but certain it's possible for problems to arise especially when you're first learning yr way around fixes tend to be more hackish01:11
Dr_willisthen theres unlearning the bad windows habbits01:12
khaije1premier_: if your goal is to learn it, make sure you set up yr system in a way that you seperate yr OS from yr user data so that you can reinstall on a whim, thats my recommendation01:12
khaije1premier_: that way you can isolate the variable, and apply what you've learned01:13
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Dr_willis'learn the fundamentals'01:13
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SlackRatdid anyone just hear a gong?01:15
soulrideri tried mandriva before and didnt really like it01:15
soulriderand i found quite a few bugs right from the begining01:15
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DaSkreechI tried Mandriva long before and did really like it01:15
DaSkreech It shipped with a whole slew of documentation01:16
Dr_willisI with these disrto would stop all these little annlying 'tweeks' that dont really add much value,, other then rearanging stuff.01:16
HymnToLifeI liked the old Mandrakes (still hame my Mandrake 10 CDs)01:16
SlackRatits good for newbs but has alot under the hood, its not a one disk install with one app per job01:16
alessandroHi.I need to compile a driver,but i need first the kernel source .how can i get em?01:16
Dr_willis!kernel01:16
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild01:16
HymnToLifebut I just can't get used to the RPM stuff01:16
soulrideri just tried it out because my teacher said he used it, but i found it a bit slow. There were a couple of things that i liked better than ubuntu though01:16
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Dr_willisalessandro,  you also need to instll the 'build-essential' package01:16
SlackRatyeah, would be happy if i never had to see another rpm01:17
soulrideri never really used RPM myself, but i heard it sucked01:17
SlackRattho PCLinuxOS reinvented somthing based on mandrake rpms didnt they??01:17
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Dr_willisrpms are ok.. :) all this stugg gets soo overhyped..01:17
DaSkreechRPM's suck as much as .debs01:17
alessandroDr_willis: I installed them already01:17
sambenHi, I'm having trouble getting dual-monitors working01:17
DaSkreechApt however rocks ":)01:17
Dr_willispackage-managment is just a LARGE and complex problem with lots of pitfalls.01:18
sambendell laptop and dell 17 flat panel01:18
SlackRatrpms suck more cause it takes three syllables to say it01:18
SlackRatas opposed to deb01:18
SlackRatL-P01:18
SlackRat:-P01:18
Dr_willis.tar.gz !01:19
soulrideras i see it they should make a new package type, and most distros should use it. It would help new users a lot01:19
Dr_willis.exe01:19
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soulrideri never really understood the .gz part of tar.gz01:19
Dr_willissoulrider,  that was sort of the decision to go with rpm a few yrs back... and everyone went 'ick'01:19
SlackRatgunzip01:19
adydas_soulrider: gunzip01:19
Dr_willisgz  = gzipped01:19
soulrideri see01:19
Dr_willistar archives have no compression01:19
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soulriderbut its just like a normal zip right ?01:19
soulriderahh01:19
jhutchinssoulrider: There's actually a universal binary package format, but it's not used much.01:20
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Dr_willisgzip is not the same as a 'zip' :)01:20
soulriderjhutchins: what is it ?01:20
intelikey.tar.bz2    .tar.gz      .tar.zip   ...01:20
SlackRatcompiling01:20
khaije1jhutchins: what is it?01:20
soulriderim such a newb to linux01:20
Dr_willisdont get confused and try to 'unzip' a .bz2, or gz file01:20
soulriderand ive been using it since july01:20
DaSkreech.package I think01:20
Dr_willisheck i rember .arc .zoo .lzh  and other archive frmats01:21
khaije1thats gay01:21
soulriderkhaije1: watch it....01:21
khaije1(no fense to the homosexual population intended)01:21
Dr_willistheres the autopackage system out also. and the klick stuff01:21
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DaSkreechkilk is neat bt will never catch on01:21
intelikeyDr_willis what ever happened to .arj  ?01:21
Dr_willisneither seem to work very well from what ige messed with them01:21
DaSkreechbut01:21
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soulrideri remember arj files01:22
soulriderlong time ago01:22
Dr_willisi dont rember thise01:22
Dr_willisheh.01:22
khaije1jhutchins: were you thinking of a format called .package?01:22
soulrideri think they were for DOS though01:22
dwidmannHmmm01:22
dwidmannthe usplash bug in 64-bit has finally been fixed :)01:23
Dr_willisi always disabvle usplash :)01:23
dwidmannMe too01:23
dwidmannbut I have to stare at it while booting the live cd01:23
adydas_I swear to god, if your looking for somthing to do and loved lemmings apt-get install pingus01:24
Dr_willisheh heh01:24
adydas_I just have to share.01:24
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soulriderim such a dork... a couple of years ago i downlaoded Mandrake and suse, but i had them installed for like one day and went back to windows just because i was too lazy to learn01:24
soulrideri wish i had made the switch then01:24
Dr_willisor install dosbox and play your old dos games01:24
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khaije1!nexuiz01:25
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org01:25
khaije1this game is the truth01:25
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DaSkreechkhaije1: too damn fast01:26
dwidmannLooks like herd 4 finally got the polishing it needed too ... seemed like a mess at herd 201:26
soulriderBTW, does anyone know if its possible to get the stuff in the repos on CDs or DVDs ? kind of like the extra CDs in Suse and Mandriva01:26
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Dr_willisthe 'stuff' can be quite a few GB. :)01:26
dwidmannsoulrider: the dvd has the entire main repository on it, if I remember right, asides from that, not that I know01:26
soulrideryes Dr_willis im aware of that01:26
soulrideri see dwidmann01:27
Dr_willisof course given how fast updates can be for this stuff..01:27
dwidmannAs for the stuff, you'd need about 3 dvds01:27
dwidmannperhaps more01:27
SolidSourcequestion: anyone getting "couldn't find" message when trying to install acroread, mozilla-acroread, acroread-plugins?01:27
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dwidmannperhaps less also01:27
intelikeyi'd only want the 'stuff' after they stop updating it every week01:27
premier_When I turn on acpi, sometimes my computer will crash on boot, saying, "Soft Lockup on CPU #0"01:27
khaije1DaSkreech: what about rrootage?01:28
soulriderSolidSource: you have enabled the extra repos ?01:28
soulriderrrootage owns!!01:28
premier_I find it amazing that the operating system is able to detect something like that01:28
Dr_williskhaije1,   i couldent even figure out how to starty that game...01:28
Dr_willis:)01:28
SlackRatsoulrider, not that i know of, since if you wanna include the unsupported multiverse its like two ro three dvds, the repos outnumber debian atm01:28
dwidmannintelikey: in other words, not until the distribution is dead, assuming that could happen (and I won't let it >:( )01:28
DaSkreechkhaije1: Eh?01:28
khaije1Dr_willis: it's the 'z' key :-)01:28
SolidSourcesoulrider: yes...I make my own lists and have everything enabled01:28
cpk1soulrider: you can burn you apt-cache to dvd or cd01:28
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Dr_williskhaije1,  gesh - thats so logical! :)01:28
intelikeydwidmann no.01:29
khaije1DaSkreech: just a nice retro-ish arcade game you might like01:29
intelikeydwidmann warty is not being updated at all now.01:29
DaSkreechWhat's rrooted?01:29
DaSkreechrepos?01:29
dwidmannintelikey: don't forget about security updates, they keep going for years :D01:29
dwidmannWait, you've got a point >.>01:29
soulridercpk1: i know that, im justa sking ebcause i remember someone was complaining one day that you couldnt get CDs or DVDs with extra packages for the peoiple with no net access01:29
khaije1DaSkreech: you betcha01:29
soulriderrrootage01:29
intelikeydwidmann on the LTS they do,  but warty is already EOL01:29
khaije1hmm.. actually I'll brb :-)01:30
dwidmannTrue, true01:30
Dr_willisif ya got no net access... go back to dos. :)01:30
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DaSkreech!rrootage01:30
uboturrootage: arcade-style space shooting game. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.23a-4 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 240 kB01:30
soulrideri wish i was a better programmer to be able to contribute with patches and stuff01:30
SlackRatits a good point.....mepis finally released extras for free download,and theyre based on buntu now01:30
soulriderDr_willis: lots of people here dont ahve net access01:30
dwidmannDon't look at me, Work has my brain fried for the [insert indeterminate amount of time here] 01:30
SlackRatjoin launchpad and submit bug reportws01:30
Dr_willissoulrider,  people 'in here' ? :)01:30
soulriderDr_willis: where i live01:31
SlackRatlol01:31
dwidmannsoulrider: and where's that?01:31
Dr_willissoulrider,  ok.. heh - tht dident make sence at first.01:31
Dr_willis:)01:31
SlackRati spent my first two years on linux without net access.....01:31
soulriderdwidmann: do a whois :P01:31
SlackRatbig ass distros were great01:31
Dr_willisif it werent for IRC.. i wouldent need net access01:31
Dr_willis:)01:31
dwidmannfine, so I can't be lazy :\01:31
dwidmannwhois soulrider01:31
soulriderSlackRat: i got some classmates that want linux but they dont ahve neta ccess, and they need stuff like java sdk01:31
dwidmannfreaking slash :(01:31
soulriderplus, theya re newbies so they need to learn01:32
SlackRatgive them suse or fedora01:32
SlackRatfive to six cds01:32
intelikey<Dr_willis> if ya got no net access... go back to dos. :)   <<<  except that dos never was as cool as linux+bash   no already scrolled text paging, no multi-ttys no command line editing,  no tab completion....  need i go on ?01:32
Dr_willisintelikey,  dr-dos !! :)01:32
Dr_willisfree-dos01:32
SlackRattho suse got too buggy for me this year, and the MS deal soured the whole idea01:32
soulriderSlackRat: im a newbie too at linux, so i want them to ahve the same distro as me so i can help them with what i know01:32
SlackRator debian dvds01:32
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soulrideri tried suse and i thought it sucked01:33
SlackRatyou can download packages and put them on cds, say two or three cds worth01:33
SolidSourceSuSE = business oriented OS01:33
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SlackRati usually store downloaded pkgs so i dont have to download them again01:33
soulriderSlackRat: thats what i kind of wanted to do, but i dont really know if theres a way to ahve apt downlaod deps too01:33
peanutbit seems my up and down keys have stopped working, anyone know howto fix this?01:33
soulridereven if i already ahve them installed01:33
SlackRathmn01:34
DaSkreech!shipit01:34
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.01:34
intelikeySlackRat but that doesn't help if you have the updates and security repos enabled  you will always have to dl the latest.    (always until EOL)01:34
SlackRatyou should consider debian when etch is released, one dvd thousands of pkgs......ubuntu uses many of the same tools01:34
cpk1you can its like -d or something to download only01:35
SlackRatcause u couldnt exactly reproduce the first three or four ubuntu pkg cds based on debians, it wouldnt work right01:35
intelikeySlackRat ubuntu is based on debian01:35
dwidmannSlackRat: thought it was two?01:35
SlackRatyes, but not hundred percent compatible01:35
soulridercpk1: i know you can do -d, but will it also download dependencies? even if you have them installed ?01:36
SlackRattheres two dvds of packages without source, yeah01:36
peanutbSlackRat: look at http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en01:36
intelikeynot 90% compatable01:36
SlackRatyou use the dvds as repos, some packages wll find unmet deps still01:36
SlackRatjust as it might in testing or unstable online01:36
intelikeywell maybe 90%.... idk the exact %01:36
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soulrideri might try that01:37
dwidmannI'll be back ...... assuming the new install boots okay01:37
soulriderbut im not sure of my classmates for DVD drives01:37
SlackRatgot pretty far with only discs for repos , but thats why ubuntu wasnt practical then without net access01:37
soulriderdwidmann: good luck01:37
soulridertoo late :(01:37
intelikeytoo late :S01:37
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joheyCan anyone recommend a good FTP client with SSL support? Preferably KDE/QT.01:37
intelikeykonqueror ?01:38
richardyou took the words out of my mouth01:38
joheyintelikey: Ah. I've heard about that one. ;) Didn't know it had FTP support at all. Heh.01:38
intelikey;/01:39
DaSkreechKonqueror has * support01:39
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intelikeymmm more like .*   but yeah01:39
DaSkreechI may be overstating but let me check man:/konqueror01:39
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intelikeycheck   #konqueror while you're at it01:40
peanutbmy up, down, and del buttons stopped working. anyone know a fix01:40
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intelikeyinputrc01:41
joheyHow do I enable Auth SSL support for a server in Konqueror?01:41
peanutbwhats inputrc?01:41
SlackRator try something odd and download the mepis extra cds to see if they are mostly compatible with ubuntu.....my guess is you want a five cd distro to start  with tho, you can always move on to another one01:41
soulrider!inputrc01:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inputrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:41
soulrideri guess i can just download the stuff for my friends and give it to them01:42
intelikeypeanutb a runtime configuration file.   the default is  /etc/inputrc   but that won't affect kde i don't think.  only consoles and terminals...01:42
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dwidmannHow (in)convenient01:43
khaije1off the wall question, do you think jabber will ever supersede irc?01:43
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peanutbwhatever the problem is, it also effects all kde and GTK programs.01:43
SlackRatover my dead body01:43
intelikeypeanutb check the   kcontrol01:43
shadowhywinddoes anyone know how to zip using ark (to a tar.gz ) with a password?01:43
soulriderpeanutb: this will sound like a windows fix, but have you restarted ? :P01:43
dwidmannI don't think it will, hopefully it will supersede other instant messengers though01:43
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khaije1but is there anything irc does better than jabber?01:44
soulrideri never used jabber =/01:44
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DaSkreechkhaije1: Attract idiots?01:44
intelikeywhat's jabber ?01:44
khaije1haha01:44
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dwidmanntoo true01:44
dwidmannalmost sad01:44
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SlackRatsoulrider, since ubuntu is a one cd distro, with net repos, youd be banging your head on the wall01:44
peanutbsoulrider, no i havent, will do01:44
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DaSkreechkhaije1: It has a better more stable set of commands so You can expect most IRC clients to have a core set of functionality. Nothing like that exists for jabber01:44
SlackRatfirst three or four deb cds, or another distro that everyone was on makes more sense01:45
dwidmannSlackRat: but banging my head against the wall is fun01:45
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gan|y|medhi01:45
SlackRatheh01:45
khaije1DaSkreech: thats a good point, i wonder if that will ever change01:45
DaSkreechkhaije1: You can run jabber servers that don't even allow multiple Person chat.....01:45
DaSkreechThat alone is hard to get over01:45
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DaSkreechgan|y|med: Ho01:45
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dwidmannThe feisty installer didn't even set up grub :(01:46
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khaije1DaSkreech: can't really hold configurability against it?01:46
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dwidmannI hate having to do this crap manually ...01:46
khaije1DaSkreech: you found me?!?01:46
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soulriderlol dwidmann01:46
SlackRatlook at mepis for the time being......they got a few pkg cds for download01:47
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soulriderwhat i think the installation REALLY needs, is to let you select what packages you want to install with the distro01:47
SlackRatdebian system now based on ubuntu kernel and development01:47
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khaije1DaSkreech: heh, pardon the last comment, i was thinking you were talking to me, thats the resource name for my jabber account :-)01:47
SlackRatnow youre talking slackware, heh01:47
DaSkreechkhaije1: Ho?01:47
gan|y|medDaSkreech: is ho short for something or just your way of saying hi?01:47
soulrideror calling youa  ho' :P01:47
DaSkreechgan|y|med: Letters are right by each other on the keyboard01:48
khaije1DaSkreech: ganymede, It's my desktop name01:48
sstchurIn KDE Network settings, I can see that my laptop's built in wireless card is detected, but it is disabled, and any attempt to "enable" it always fails.  Why would this be?01:48
soulrider!wireless01:48
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:48
intelikeynavaho ?01:48
gan|y|medi am using another language version01:48
gan|y|medDaSkreech: what keyboard do you use? dvorak?01:48
khaije1~U.N.I.T.Y.!~01:48
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DaSkreechgan|y|med: i and o aren't beside each other on your keyboard????01:49
SlackRatunity in all its diversity01:49
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intelikeyorder is complex.   chaos is simple...01:50
gan|y|medDaSkreech: oh, got that wrong01:50
soulriderintelikey: true :P01:50
dx11101hi all01:50
soulriderhi dx1110101:50
dwidmannYum, chaos, and can I have some mass destruction for dessert?01:50
dx11101i just installed kubuntu two weeks ago and im stuck on somenthing01:50
dx11101i can get my system to read SD chips01:50
soulriderdx11101: what do you need help with ?01:51
dx11101*cant01:51
soulrideruhm01:51
Dr_willisdx11101,  what kind of system?01:51
soulriderlike the cammera cards ?01:51
intelikeydwidmann it comes with that order  yes01:51
dx11101yeah01:51
dx11101when i put it into the card reader it prompts me with a open window option01:51
dx11101but it gives me a blank folder01:51
Dr_willisMy laptops built in media-reader - dose not work under linux. :( sadly.. had to get a $5   media reader for the usb ports.01:51
gan|y|meddoes anybody use initng on ubuntu edgy???01:51
dx11101but i know it has photos01:51
Dr_willisdx11101,  mount the thing manually. I find auto-mounting can often cause more problems then it solves01:52
intelikeygan|y|med not on edgy   i have on hoary01:52
dx11101ahh01:52
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dx11101yeah because i have it automounting01:52
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dx11101but before i automoutned it gave me a URL error reading the card01:52
Dr_williswhen in doubt fall back to the console/terminal. :)01:53
gan|y|medintelikey: that's too old i am afraid. it worked on dapper for me. flawlessly. but on edgy (like some other things, argh) it doesn't01:53
Dr_willisof course it pays to learn that stuff incase you never need to rescue a system.01:53
intelikeywhen confident, use the console01:53
intelikey:)01:53
dx11101well im a n00b01:53
Dr_willisun-n00b yourself :)01:53
gan|y|medintelikey: just a shot in the dark, but have you had problems with usb devices?01:53
dx11101with the command line anyways01:53
Dr_willisquit playing with your n00b - you will go blind. :P01:54
shadowhywinddoes anyone know how to password protect a tar.gz01:54
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SlackRatshave your hands Dr_willis01:54
Dr_willis!pgp01:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pgp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:54
intelikeygan|y|med i have never seen edgy not breezy nor warty for that matter.01:54
Dr_willis!find pgp01:54
ubotuFound: gpgp, libpgp-sign-perl, pgpdump, pgpgpg, pgplsh (and 9 others)01:54
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Dr_willis!info gpgp01:54
ubotugpgp: gnome front-end to GnuPG - a free PGP replacement. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-12ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 56 kB, installed size 300 kB01:54
Dr_willispgp can encrypt files right?01:55
dx11101pretty good privacy01:55
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dwidmannshadowhywind: well, you could use (k)gpg to do a one way encryption on it .....01:55
SlackRatsee, if you say noob on the ubuntu channel people have hissy fits01:55
intelikeygan|y|med i'll probably never see feisty either... nor the one that fillows it.01:55
gan|y|medintelikey: i mean on hoary01:55
intelikeyfillows  ?01:55
SlackRatfeisty, be thankful you can still be moderately aroused01:55
intelikeyfollows01:55
shadowhywinddwidmann do you know if Ark can handle the extraction or even to password from there?01:56
SlackRatoh, you meant the new release01:56
gan|y|medintelikey: is there a reason for this (like "never change a running system")?01:56
SlackRatnever mind01:56
dwidmannshadowhywind: doubtful01:56
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Dr_willisark is just a fancy front end to the various command line tools.. last i looked.01:56
intelikeygan|y|med yeah,  it's called dialup.01:56
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cpk1noob01:57
intelikeygan|y|med you dl the install cd at 4k down01:57
shadowhywinddwidmann so i can use kgpg to encrypt my file, and i am asumeing that it will also decrypte it later?01:57
netcatanyone using 2.6.20 kernel ?01:57
dwidmannshadowhywind: yes01:57
dwidmannnetcat: I will be in about 10 minutes01:57
netcatI don't recommend it dwidmann01:57
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gan|y|medintelikey: i got the same problem at home, that doesn't prevent you from getting a new version (oreilley even has an ubuntu book plus dapper released)01:57
dwidmannnetcat: why's that?01:58
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nc631I'm having issues with netfilter01:58
SlackRatlmao01:58
nc631they changed it a fair bit...01:58
gan|y|medintelikey: so no usb probs on hoary with initng?01:58
nc631x_tables and shit...01:58
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intelikeyat least DaSkreech knows you don't "have" hissies.  you pitch them...01:58
intelikeygan|y|med no01:58
DaSkreechComes with the job01:58
intelikey:)01:59
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intelikeyDaSkreech well do you 'have' or 'throw' coniptions ?01:59
dwidmannI never played with netfilters anyway01:59
SlackRatyou can pitch, throw or have.....so there01:59
DaSkreechintelikey: I think it depends on how old you are02:00
intelikeySlackRat yankey02:00
dx11101HEY GUYS THANKS FOR THE HELP I GOT IT WORKING02:00
gan|y|medintelikey: thx anyway02:00
SlackRatlol02:00
dx11101much thanks02:00
intelikeylol02:00
DaSkreechdx11101: Cool :)02:00
DaSkreechNow script it02:00
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dx11101i used the gui based systems settings to get it working02:00
dx11101i guess i suck at konsole02:00
dx11101:)02:00
dx11101it was automounted but it wasnt "enabled" for some reason02:01
jarnIs there a way to make ls sort files like konqueror does, with the folders first and then the rest in alphabetical order instead of just in alphabetical order?02:01
DaSkreechHeehee02:01
Dr_willisdx11101,  ive noticed a lot of quirks with kubuntu and auto-mounting lately.02:01
intelikeyjarn  man ls02:01
Menai need a progran to open this extentionm of files .bin its like iso files ...so any ideas02:01
dx11101i have all my NTFS partitions automounted02:01
dx11101without issues02:02
dwidmannMena: you probably run the .bin files in a shell02:02
dx11101eventually im going to convert my data to EXT3 though02:02
dwidmannor wait02:02
dwidmannthat .bin02:02
dwidmannYou can convert it to iso if you want, I think02:02
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Menadwidmann, how to covert02:02
dwidmannadditionally, I think k3b can handle the .bin files02:02
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Menaok02:03
cpk1Mena: is it a bin/cue video?02:03
Dr_willisyes - k3b is supposed to handle cue/bin now.02:03
Menayes02:03
SlackRathttp://applications.linux.com/applications/07/02/16/1937237.shtml?tid=26&tid=13&tid=2202:03
cpk1Mena: bchunk will convert them to iso02:03
Menadr_willis, ok02:03
SlackRatouch......02:03
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SlackRatyou mean that intifada??02:04
BlackenWell, I managed to hose NTLDR when installing Linux next to Windows. (There were two separate Windows installs, 32-bit and 64-bit, and I overwrote the 32-bit one that had NTLDR on the hard drive...sigh). Is there a way on Linux to see drives/partitions the way boot.ini's loader would (i.e. multi(0)disk(0)...)?02:04
nc631dwidmann: cause I'm having heaps of issues with 2.6.2002:04
Menacpk1, ok02:04
jarnintelikey: I looked through that already, I didn't see it in there. I think I'm just not noticing it because I can't believe it's not possible.02:04
cpk1Mena: its in the repos02:05
dx11101how do you tell which kernel version you have02:05
dwidmannuname -r02:05
Menacpk1, ok good that you tell me :D02:05
cpk1Mena: and its as easy as bchunk namof.bin nameof.cue namofoutput02:05
DaSkreechcan ark do volumes in creation?02:05
dx11101kthanks02:05
cpk1or it might be cue file then bin file read the man Mena =)02:05
BlackenIt's not as simple as hda/hdb, as one drive is SATA and the other IDE.02:05
Menacpk1, ok cool :D02:05
eric_is there a way to set the konsole so it automatically starts up in sudo mode?02:06
peanutbin konversation, how do you show actions?02:06
Dr_williseric_, 'sudo mode' hmmm....02:06
DaSkreechpeanutb: actions?02:06
eric_yea...02:06
peanutbas in "* Dr_willis slaps the peopl;e that decided to use .bin extension"02:06
Dr_willisyou could set up a konsle item to run a root shell02:06
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DaSkreechpeanutb: ah that I read konsole at first :)02:07
DaSkreechpeanutb: try /me02:07
Dr_williseric_,  sudo mode - dosent make a lot of sence. :)  you could use 'sudo -s' to have a root shell02:07
dwidmannthat or you could run konsole as kdesu konsole instead02:07
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eric_yea i know02:07
eric_thats what i normally do02:07
Dr_willisof course the point of using sudo. is to not have root shells open. where ya can accidently break things02:07
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eric_ok02:08
dwidmannor where someone else can accidentally help you in accidentally breaking things by accidentally walking up to your accidentally unused computer and accidentally type in rm -rf02:08
dwidmann/02:08
SlackRatyou cant sudo rm -rf?02:08
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fudgeyhey02:09
dwidmannSlackRat: not without the password02:09
fudgeyis it possible to get a spread sheet program?02:09
SlackRatbut the password makes you root enuf to trash your system02:09
SlackRatas does fakeroot02:09
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SlackRatpeanut, wanna lose your whole system02:09
gnomefreakpeanutb: it removes a directory if you name the directory02:10
fudgeyexcel on ubuntu?02:10
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dwidmannfudgey: openoffice and koffice and gnomeoffice all have spreadsheet programs02:10
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fudgeycan I install ubuntu on an old imac?02:10
SlackRatwhat it does help with is stopping people who can get into your system from looking for the root accountand cracking it02:10
peanutbfudgey, its already there, openoffice.org spreadsheet02:10
gnomefreakfudgey: yes02:10
fudgeythanks =)02:10
fudgeyhow to?02:10
fudgeywhich button loads the cd02:11
fudgeyon startup02:11
dwidmannfudgey: yes, but you need the PowerPC ISO image02:11
fudgeyo02:11
peanutbhow old is this mac?02:11
fudgey9.202:11
fudgeya02:11
peanutbok02:11
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flaccid0esyeah should do auto if you burned the ppc image02:11
jarnIs there a flag to make ls sort files like konqueror does, with the folders first and then the rest in alphabetical order instead of just in alphabetical order? I looked through man ls but didn't see it. I think I'm just missing it, because I've got to imagine they have one.02:11
fudgeyk thanks02:11
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DaSkreechWait02:12
intelikeyjarn  man ls02:12
DaSkreechDolphin is in KDEBASE?02:12
jarnintelikey: You said that already. Again, I didn't see it in there.02:12
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dwidmannls -X02:12
intelikeyjarn sgort answer.     if it's not there.  it's not there.02:12
intelikeyshort02:13
jarndwidmann: ls -X doesn't do that.02:13
noel_Greetings folks. Is the a version of UBUNTU that has a 1000mhz system clock instead of 250? I am trying to run ROSEGARDEN.02:13
dwidmannlooks like it does to me02:13
dwidmannit's showing directories first ... just like you were asking about02:13
jarnNot for me, it isn't.02:13
dwidmannhummmmm02:13
Dr_willischeck your alias's02:14
jarnIt is in some directories.02:14
dwidmannDr_Willis: I think I shall02:14
intelikeydwidmann that's only because all your dirs are smaller than the files02:14
dwidmannProbably02:14
DaSkreecharen't all dirs like 4k ?02:14
intelikey-X sorts by size02:14
dwidmannWait02:14
dwidmannBah02:14
dwidmannYeah, that was it02:14
dwidmannI'm too jumpy right now02:14
dwidmanntoo much lack of sleep and not enough coffee to compensate02:15
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noel_DaSkreech: Greetings. I don't suppose you know of an easy way to the system clock back to 1000, currently it is at 250 and ROSEGARDEN is complaining?02:16
DaSkreechThe clcok?02:17
DaSkreechas in the Processor speed?02:17
dx11101isnt that set in the bios?02:17
NightBirddx11101, it might be a dynamic clock...02:17
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Dr_willisI dont know.. he has me totally baffled..02:18
Dr_willis:)02:18
noel_DaSkreech: "System timer resolution is too low" ROSEGARDEN.02:18
Dr_willissounds liek cpu throtteling?02:18
Dr_willisthats not the same as the cpu speed.. i think ..02:18
dx11101http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/02:18
NightBirdSystem timer resolution o_O02:18
dx11101is taht the program?02:18
thevcan someone help me with Samba?  I have one share which isn't playing nice.  Many others are.  I'm not sure what the the problem can be02:18
NightBirdthat isn't the cpu speed at all...02:18
thevas far as I can tell permissions are the same02:18
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Menahow to open a directory in terminal02:19
noel_dx11101: Yes .Rosegarden is the program.02:19
intelikeyjarn something like this would do it, but i doubt it's what you want. ####  for Q in * ;do [ -d "$Q" ]  && DIRS="$DIRS \n$Q" || FILES="$FILES \n$Q" ;done ;echo -e "$DIRS \n$FILES"  ####02:19
Menabec i cant cd it02:19
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SlackRatcd /dir/name/path02:20
intelikeyjarn and that will probably error if filenames have spaces or other special chars02:20
jarnintelikey: Ah.02:21
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jarnintelikey: What do I do with that?02:21
thevcan I reload fstab without restarting?02:22
intelikeyjarn you could put that in a function in .bashrc   or a script.   or you can just plug it into the commandline02:22
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intelikeythev sudo mount -a02:22
intelikeythev that will mount anything not mounted.02:22
thevwhat if it's already mounted and I changed it's parameters in fstab?02:23
intelikeythev if you have changed a mountpoint or something like that,  you'll have to umount it first.02:23
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thevok, cool02:23
thevthanks02:23
jarnintelikey: Naw, that's not what I wanted, but thanks anyway.02:24
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intelikeythev sudo umount /dev/device   or sudo umount /mount/point02:24
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intelikeyjarn i told you it probably wasn't.   it's not formated.   i.e. one listing per line.02:24
thevOk, fstab params are the same, permissions are the same, samba permissions are the same - what could be blocking one mount from not working and the other working fine?02:25
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intelikeyif you want it formated sed can help with that. also adding colour coding to the listings is a bit more tricky.02:26
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intelikeythev missing / in fstab ?02:26
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thevintelikey - the mount point mounts fine - I can access it from the Linux box, the windows box can't open it though02:27
thevand it can open other mounts i have set up02:27
khaije1i've been wondering about this for years... where can i get descent for linux?02:27
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intelikeyjarn what exactly is the point to the execrise in futility ?02:27
thevsubfolders on the non working mount have no access either02:28
thevseems like it must be a permission problem?02:28
jarnintelikey: It's not important enough to me to do things involving scripts. It makes it easier to read but I'm not going to bother with it if it's harder than adding a flag.02:28
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DaSkreechkhaije1: d2ljx I think02:29
intelikeythev yes. seems like.   but i've never set up a samba mess...02:29
intelikeyjarn you do have colour coding in the ls command...02:29
jarnintelikey: Eh?02:30
jarnintelikey: I know.02:30
thevgargghhhh02:30
jarnintelikey: What are you talking about?02:30
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intelikeyalias ls="ls --colour=auto"02:30
jarnI know.02:30
DaSkreechit makes directories stand out02:30
intelikeyor is it color02:30
khaije1DaSkreech: is that something i should google or apt-get?02:30
intelikeyanyway.02:30
khaije1DaSkreech: i was always a little confused about that b/c i thought it would gpl'd at some point but still hard to find02:31
DaSkreechkhaije1: d2x-xl is the proper name02:31
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nando_holas!!02:32
nando_:D:D02:32
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DaSkreechJu!02:32
Menacpk1, what is the fuction of bchunk i cant use i open the option to choose what to choose to extrcat or open the file02:33
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intelikeyjarn ok. do this.     for Q in * ;do [ -d "$Q" ]  && DIRS="$DIRS $Q" || FILES="$FILES $Q" ;done ;ls -d $DIRS ;ls $FILES ;DIRS= ;FILES=02:34
intelikeyjarn   you could make that an alias.02:34
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JucatoDa!02:34
=== intelikey bash's bash some more.....
DaSkreechintelikey: can you alias an option?02:35
DaSkreechlike ls -DD to that script?02:35
intelikeyoh function02:35
intelikeynot alias.   function02:35
DaSkreechOh yeah Functions can do that02:35
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khaije1clear02:35
kiersiewho has feisty?02:35
khaije1oops...02:36
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jarnintelikey: That displays more than I need to. It displays upper directories too, which is unnecessary. And it's really not that big of a deal to me.02:36
kiersiei cannot update02:36
khaije1DaSkreech: thx for the info02:36
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kiersiedebconf on kubuntu02:36
kiersieincorrect nice value02:36
DaSkreechkiersie: try in #ubuntu+102:36
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intelikeyin .bashrc   function dir {for Q in * ;do [ -d "$Q" ]  && DIRS="$DIRS $Q" || FILES="$FILES $Q" ;done ;ls -d $DIRS ;ls $FILES ;DIRS= ;FILES=}02:36
DaSkreechkhaije1: found something?02:36
tucoHi Intel!02:36
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intelikeytuco02:37
tucoManaged to get the updates working02:37
khaije1DaSkreech: just a website... hard to know what to make of it all...02:37
tucoBasically I had to set up the wireless connection manually. Problem od DNS.02:37
underdog5004I'm having trouble getting my IBM thinkpad R31 online through wireless. I have an Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 WaveLan chipset (rev 01), but it looks like it's being detected as a wired connection.02:38
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kiersiesorry02:39
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tucoBut right now I need to download and install the ati drivers so I can have a resolution of 1280x800, and get the audigy drivers too. Any help welcome :-)02:39
DaSkreechkiersie: No problem02:39
SolidSourceok, got azureus running, now trying to get the Web UI working. I have already opended the ports and such, but nothing loading on my other machine. ideas?02:40
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intelikey<jarn> intelikey: That displays more than I need to. It displays upper directories too, <<<   ?02:41
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jarnIt displays the contents of upper-level directories.02:41
jarnLike, for example, when run in ~/winestuff it displays the contents of winestuff and ~02:41
Menacpk1, sorry i had a something wrong thanks again02:42
intelikeywhat do you mean ?    it doesn't do that for me.02:42
Menacpk1, :D :)02:42
ReturnToZeroBonne nuit a tous :x:x:x:x:x:x02:42
intelikeyjarn you have to use it only in the dir you want to see.  you can't use it with a path.02:42
matadioIs there a bootdisk available so I can run the install CD?02:42
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jarnintelikey: I didn't.02:43
jarnintelikey: I ran it in that directory.02:43
intelikeytty2 [greg@~]  cd Desktop/02:43
intelikeytty2 [greg@~/Desktop]  dir02:43
intelikey.02:43
intelikey?02:43
DaSkreechcan ark do volumes in creation?02:43
tucoAnyone can help me with Ati drivers and Audigy please?02:43
Kite_DHneed help02:43
Kite_DHneed help02:43
Kite_DHsry02:43
Kite_DHerm02:43
intelikeytty2 [greg@~/Desktop]  cd /02:44
intelikeytty2 [greg@/]  dir02:44
intelikeybin   dev    etc   lib         mnt   root  sys  usr02:44
Kite_DHi want to know how to install my webcam, its a "T-Com PC-30"02:44
intelikeyand friends that i didn't post02:44
Dr_willisKite_DH,  google for that web cam to see even if its supported at all.02:44
Dr_willisKite_DH,  not all web cams have linux support.02:44
jarnintelikey: Well, I have to go. Thanks for helping me.02:44
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Dr_willistuco,  follow the !ati   wiki/page yet?02:45
Dr_willis!ati02:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:45
intelikeyjarn np02:45
Kite_DHoh, ok02:45
Kite_DHim gonna buy one with support then,easy02:45
Dr_willisFinding the one to buy.. can be the issue02:45
Kite_DHnaaw, amazon is my hero02:45
Kite_DHlol02:45
Dr_willistheres a few linux web cam sites.. but i dont mess with the things02:46
Kite_DHhehe02:46
Kite_DHyou see, i got kubuntu edgy for 3 days now02:46
Kite_DHand my sister wants her webcam on it again02:47
Kite_DHwe had win XP b402:47
Dr_willislearn the FUNdamentals.02:47
Dr_willis:)02:47
Kite_DHi tested around a bit with the terminal02:47
Kite_DHand stuff02:47
Kite_DHi love linux02:48
Kite_DHbut my sister doesnt come around with it02:48
Kite_DHand my mother02:48
Kite_DH:(02:48
Kite_DHwe only have 1 pc, thats the prob02:48
Dr_willislive cd's are handy to learn with also.02:49
Dr_willisand can save your backside02:49
Kite_DHyes, it was a live CD02:49
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DaSkreechKite_DH: Which webcam?02:49
Kite_DHthen i installed it02:49
Kite_DHT-Com PC-3002:49
Kite_DHis the name02:49
Kite_DHits not in the hardware support02:49
Kite_DHyou dont have to check :)02:50
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tjzskreech sup02:51
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Kite_DHquestion02:51
Kite_DHhow can i upgrade my KDE?02:52
Dr_willisupgrade to what?02:52
Kite_DHfrom 3.5.4 to 3.5.6?02:52
JucatoKite_DH: are you on Dapper or Edgy?02:52
Kite_DHedgy02:52
Kite_DH6.1002:52
Kite_DHif thats right02:52
JucatoKite_DH: http://kubuntu.org02:52
Dr_willisdont bother upgrading to 3.5.602:52
Kite_DHoh, ok02:52
Dr_willissudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade02:52
Dr_willisand let it update as needed02:52
Kite_DHshould i type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" to the terminal?02:53
Dr_willisKite_DH,  where else can ya type it at? :)02:53
Kite_DHno idea :/02:53
Dr_willisfundamentals man.. fundamentals. :)02:53
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Dr_willis!terminal02:53
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands02:53
Dr_willisyou type commands in th terminal correct...02:53
DaSkreechtjz: Hey hey02:54
JucatoKite_DH: you can get the KDE 3.5.6 repository from the kubuntu.org site02:54
Dr_willisive had a lot of issues after i upgraded to 3.5.602:54
DaSkreechDr_willis: alt+F2 :)02:54
intelikeywell i think i perfected the requested sorting of dirrectories first in ls   anyone want to see it ???02:54
SolidSourceanyone know how to bypass ISP port blocking? tried a few tuts and no luck?02:54
Kite_DHwhat issues02:54
Dr_willisso id advise worrying about it at this time.02:54
DaSkreechintelikey: Sure02:54
intelikeyhttp://pastebin.ca/raw/36281602:54
Dr_willissince you dont really gain any features.. its mainly bug fix's02:54
Kite_DHupdate is done already02:54
dwidmannDr_willis: you have? Been smooth sailing for me since after I managed to get the update ......02:54
Dr_willisdwidmann,  i got a lot of -dev packages that wont install now.. and the automounting of media seems totally messed up02:55
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underdog5004I hate GNOME so much...it's on the R31 lappy that I'm working on...and it's so dumb. Terminal is listed under Accesories, for goodness sake!02:55
dwidmannDr_willis: As far as I've seen, the automounting has never worked the way it should for me ...02:55
DaSkreechNeat02:55
Dr_willisdwidmann,  for me the thing pops up a window asking to 'show the contents' then it shows /var/somthing/somthing - thats totally wrong. :)02:56
dwidmannI had a lot of packages that were utterly broken, had to fetch the source and build it myself because the packages weren't even in the repo ...02:56
intelikeyDaSkreech i only tested on ~ / /usr /bin /var/cache/apt   worked correctly each time.02:56
Kite_DHDr_willis: i heared that there is a Kubuntu 7.04 alpha out, if it comes out fully, can the people who have edgy update to feisty herd?02:57
DaSkreechKite_DH: You can do it now02:57
Dr_willisKite_DH,  i never bother to 'upgrade' i keep /home on its own partition. and do a clean new install.02:57
tuconot sure if my ati manipulation worked.02:57
tucoWhat do I have to choose guys, fbdev or fglrx?02:58
Dr_willisfglrx is for most ati cards02:58
Dr_willisfbdev is not that commonly used.02:58
Kite_DHDaSkreech: i followed the instructions of kubuntu.org, and now i got 3.5.5 ....should i have 3.5.6??02:59
dwidmannKite_DH: you could have done it right away really, soon as edgy was released ... it would have been identicle to Edgy at that point though02:59
DaSkreechKite_DH: No idea03:00
DaSkreechWasn't following your conversation03:00
intelikeymore manipulative manipulations of the manipulator   by tuco tuco tuco      :)03:00
Dr_willisyou need to logout and relogin to get the newest kde.03:00
Kite_DHwait then03:00
Dr_willissince you are using what you just updated. :)03:00
tucoI try my best Intel :-)03:00
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dwidmannKiteyou'll need to log out then log back in03:01
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eric_should i get the free or non-free version of unrar?03:01
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tucoSo I go to configure and there is:detected graphics card fbdev...in the list of cards however there fglrx?03:02
Kite_DHDr_willis: i still got 3.5.503:02
dwidmanneric_: the non-free is more capable, but it's well, non-free. Take your pick03:02
tucostandard or proprietary?03:02
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DaSkreechintelikey: Nethack!03:03
Menawhat is the plugin to open a .dat file in video03:03
intelikeyDaSkreech na just the battle of wesnoth this time.03:03
DaSkreechWesnoth!!!03:03
DaSkreechWhich version?03:04
intelikeyhmm ?03:04
intelikeyBattle for Wesnoth v1.0.203:04
eric_dwidmann: ok thanks03:04
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intelikeywas in the repos03:04
underdog5004it is so much slower here in #kubuntu...as opposed to #ubuntu03:04
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intelikeyDaSkreech 2.0 is out  but i'm not that interested in updating03:05
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intelikeyit's too         one dimentional   for me.03:06
DaSkreech!info wesnoth feisty03:06
ubotuwesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2-1 (feisty), package size 1919 kB, installed size 4348 kB03:06
jmichaelxhave others been having any issues with amarok 1.4.5 crashing?03:06
dwidmannjmichaelx: stable as a rock for me03:06
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intelikeyDaSkreech kolf is one of the better linux games that will run on "`OLD'" hardware.03:07
tucoOoooooooooooooooh yes I did it :-)03:07
tuco1280x800!!! Yeaaaaaaaaaah03:07
jmichaelxdwidmann: i have installed it on 3 machines here at home, and on a friends.... and it has been less than stable on all of them03:07
DaSkreechintelikey: I remember that game being very frustrating03:07
intelikeykolf ?03:07
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intelikeyhe wouldn't be any good if it was too easy...03:08
dwidmannjmichaelx: what type of files, what audio backend, what database backend, where are the files located?03:08
coreymon77jhutchins: are you around?03:08
jmichaelxdwidmann: that varied on each machine. often amarok crashes when a machine first boots up03:09
jmichaelxvaries*03:09
Kite_DHDr_willis: where do i have to write this in "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main" ??03:09
jmichaelxi should say that on my laptop, amarok 1.4.5 has had no issues03:09
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dwidmannI've been using Ogg/Xine/Sqlite3/"/home" and it has never crashed, not even once, since the upgrade to 1.4.503:09
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jmichaelxdwidmann: that is insteresting because amarok had never crashed for me in the past..... with any version until this one03:10
Dr_willisKite_DH,  thats a apt  source entry.03:10
DaSkreechintelikey: could never pass like round 3 or 503:10
jmichaelxi am playing mp3s03:10
Dr_willis!apt-get03:10
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)03:10
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Dr_willisit goes in ---->  /etc/apt/sources.list03:11
justin1278hello03:11
dwidmannjmichaelx: I've made it crash before, plus the database scanning always "needed work" before (only worked half the time after upgrades, etc), I even ran into a doozy of a memory leak a couple of times03:11
dwidmannLess than perfect, but still the best that there is.03:11
eric_how would I make the icons smaller on the deskop?03:11
jmichaelxdwidmann: all of these machines are playing MP3s and using amarok-xine... some with music from home dirs, and one from an external HD03:11
jmichaelxdwidmann: hmm... i am thinking about just trying a 'remove --purge' on the machine having this issue, and reinstalling fresh03:12
dwidmannjmichaelx: not a bad idea really03:12
jmichaelxmachines*03:12
[Marvin] Hm, kopete keeps crashing on me in the middle of conversations for no apparent reason. Anyone got any idea what could be wrong?03:13
dwidmannhopefully it'll help ... if not, bug reports :)03:13
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jmichaelxdwidmann: i need to be more faithful with bug reports anyways :-D03:13
justin1278I am having issues with my applets, they are all over in different places in my taskbar and I am not sure how to put them back to the way they were.03:14
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Kite_DHDr_willis: can u help me with this---> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php03:14
Dr_willisKite_DH,  upgrading to  the lastst kde is NOT worth the effort.03:14
jmichaelxi got a good friend to install kubuntu on an old machine, and he just called me telling me that amarok crashed on his PC.... crashed the whole system. he says he has rebooted several times, and has no panel in KDE anymore. very weird03:15
Kite_DHDr_willis: ok03:15
jmichaelxhe has no linux experience03:15
Kite_DHme?03:15
Kite_DHi dont..thats right03:15
dwidmannDr_willis: I thought it was, fixed a few annoying bugs ...03:15
Dr_willisKite_DH,  if you 'must' you do the first 2 commands that site shows.. then add one of the sources.list entry to your  sources.list file03:15
Dr_willisthen apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.03:15
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DaSkreech[Marvin] : Kopete needs help?03:16
tucoguys what are the drivers required for an audigy 2 card?03:16
pirojmichaelx: tell him to press esc on the reboot to get into grub and try one of the kernel recovery modes03:16
DaSkreechjmichaelx: How old a machine?03:16
pirofunny though, you wont get him to stop saying that linux sucks after that experience03:16
[Marvin] DaSkreech: dunno...it seems like a pretty serious bug...and I figure someone else than me has experienced it...03:17
jmichaelxpiro: what will that do? will just booting into recovery mode one time possibly fix things?03:17
piroworks for me when my crap takes a crap03:17
DaSkreechI haven't but I can still pretty much get kopete to crash on demand.03:17
DaSkreechWhich reminds me I should patch it03:17
jmichaelxDaSkreech: the machine is fine, 800Mhz 256MB RAM03:17
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justin1278my applets have gotten all messed up, does somebody know how I can move them back?03:17
jmichaelxDaSkreech: i have one just like it running slackware with no issues03:18
piroi can at least get into x after doing that so thats why i threw that out03:18
Jucatojustin1278: which applets?03:18
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justin1278Jucato: the applets in the taskbar03:18
jmichaelxpiro: ty, i'll have him try that03:18
DaSkreechjmichaelx: I would suspect that slackware is lighter than kubuntu03:18
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justin1278Jucato: I accidently deleted one and was trying to put it back where it was and ended up messing them all up03:19
Jucatojustin1278: when you hover over those applets, you should be able to see the applet handles that you can grab and drag around03:19
DaSkreechI could be wrong :) but that's what I suspect03:19
tucoNo one knows for the audigy/1/2 drivers?03:19
justin1278Jucato: Oh ok, I made the handles invisible, thats why I can't see them.03:19
dwidmannDaSkreech: you can work out a pretty light install with ubuntu/debian03:19
jmichaelxDaSkreech: no doubt about that, but.... i used to run kubuntu on a 500Mhz machine, and it worked fine (no one believes me when i tell them that)03:19
Dr_willistuco,  whats to know? Mine has always worked fine with no twiddling needed03:19
Jucatojustin1278: make them visible!! hehehe ;)03:19
DaSkreechdwidmann: Yeah but you have to think about it03:19
justin1278Jucato: Lol03:19
dwidmannDaSkreech: trick is to start off with the text instsall, and build from there03:20
DaSkreechjmichaelx: I beleive you I did it with edubuntu and that runs a TLS03:20
jmichaelxDaSkreech: i don't think it is the machine03:20
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jmichaelxDaSkreech: kool03:20
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tucoI don't know how to have my audigy 2 notebook recognized, or to show up Willis03:20
justin1278Jucato: Ok all fixed lol03:20
Dr_willisaudigy 2 notebook? what the heck is that.03:20
Kite_DHhmm still 3.5.5 but doesnt matter now =/03:20
Jucatojustin1278: good :)03:20
DaSkreechKite_DH: Chill till Feisty03:21
DaSkreech then you can have the problem of dist-upgrading to KDE4 :)03:21
justin1278Jucato: Thanks :-)03:21
Kite_DHDaSkreech: yup...so..you said edgy users can upgrade to Feisty right?03:21
tucojust an audigy 2 zs Willis03:21
pirokde4 out at all?03:21
DaSkreech!upgrade03:21
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)03:21
Kite_DHDaSkreech: can you stay always up to date?03:22
tucobasically same as for audigy 103:22
Kite_DHoh, ok03:22
DaSkreechKite_DH: up to you03:22
tucoemu10k1 I guess03:22
dwidmannpiro, well, there are development snapshots in the edgy repos03:22
Dr_willistuco,  my audigy 2zs pci card works great.. i dident have to do anything with it -  what specific problem you having?03:22
piroic dwidmann thanks, was just wondering03:22
DaSkreechWhen I was running on Breezy before it came out I'd update a package and before it was installed there would be a new one on the server03:22
dwidmannThey'll read something more like 3.8 though03:22
tucoright now it seems that it is the onboard sound working and not the audigy03:23
Dr_willistuco,  NOW you are gtting to the actual problem...03:23
tuco:-)03:23
Dr_willistuco,  been best to disable the onboard card befor you installed..03:23
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dwidmanntuco: easiest fix = disable the onboard in BIOS03:23
tucoit's a laptop!03:23
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Dr_willisthen check out the !alsa page i guess03:23
Dr_willisHOW are you having 2 sound cards in a laptop?03:24
tucocan't do it in the bios03:24
Dr_willisit has some pci slot? :)03:24
tucoonboard sound and pci slot03:24
dwidmannWell, you could blacklist the onboard pretty easily03:24
SchuenemannI keep getting an alert box with this error message: Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting03:24
Schuenemannwhat might that be?03:24
tucohow come Mann?03:24
Dr_willisthats got to be the first laptop ive seen with a pci slot then.. or are you refering to a pc-card (pcmcia) slot?03:24
tucopcmia dude03:24
tucothe card thingy03:25
fudgeyhey theres an error with my installation03:25
Dr_willisthats a totally different beast then.03:25
Dr_willis:)03:25
Dr_willisid have to say hit the google and see if its even supported.03:25
Dr_willisit may be a  Audigy in name only.03:25
fudgeygdm failed to start03:25
dwidmann/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist - add a line that looks like "blacklist modname", where modname is the name of the module you want to blacklist (the one the onboard card loads) and reboot.03:25
tucoI had it to work fine under kubuntu once but forgot how to do it03:25
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Dr_willistuco,  thats a good sign then.. :) it pays to take notes. heh heh03:25
tucois there something like a sound board...equalizer?03:26
Dr_willisthers various sound mixers03:26
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tucoI remember one03:26
tucoa one where you can set the volume for each channel,etc?03:26
dwidmannkmix?03:27
Dr_willissee the little speaker on the panel?03:27
Dr_willisright click on it. :)03:27
bitbytei installed Mandriva 2007 on the same bax that already had kubuntu 6.10. But mandriva didn't put kubuntu in the list for the bootlaoder, can someone help me add it so i can still use kubuntu?03:27
mshadealsamixer03:27
Dr_willisor is it a normal click..03:27
mshadekmix03:27
SchuenemannI keep getting an alert box with this error message: "Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting". What could that be?03:27
tucoyes it did it...silly me :-)03:27
BluesKajno eq required there, just a balance ctrl03:27
tuco2.30 am sorry I start losing my senses03:27
Dr_willisbitbyte,  is mandriva using LILO or GRUB?03:27
dwidmannDr_willis: middle click works even better03:28
bitbyteDr_willis, it was using lilo, but i changed it to grub03:28
bitbytei can do either one03:28
DaSkreechdwidmann: +103:28
SchuenemannI can't believe I'm the only one around with that problem :)03:28
Dr_willisbitbyte,  look on the /boot/ dir on the ubuntu system and its grub/menu.lst - from that file figure out what you need to copy over to the mandrivas grubs menu.lst file03:28
DaSkreechSchuenemann: Happens to me all the time03:28
dwidmannSchuenemann: I've gotten t hat before, but I don't know why I did.03:28
dwidmannAnd I don't know how I got it to go away03:29
bitbyteDr_willis i cant boot to the ubuntu system03:29
Schuenemannthe sound works, though03:29
Dr_willisbitbyte,  MOUNT the ubuntu drive...03:29
SolidSourcetrying to get konqueror to go clear...anyone know the color code?03:29
tucoNope you have another Mann around Schue...there is Dwid :-)03:29
fudgeyon my old imac gnome failed to start on my live cd install03:29
dwidmannI remember it started popping up when I was playing in BIOS, and fiddling with overclocking, and hte like03:29
Dr_willisbitbyte,  you dont need to be running it.. just look at the files on it.03:29
bitbytek03:29
bitbytelet me try to do that03:29
Schuenemanndwidmann, I just installed edgy and I get that03:29
SchuenemannDaSkreech, doesn't it piss you off?03:29
tucoarf can't install firefox!03:29
DaSkreechSchuenemann: Yup03:30
fudgeyon my old imac gnome failed to start on my live cd install03:30
bitbyteok done03:30
SchuenemannDaSkreech, what are you gonna do about that?03:30
DaSkreechIgnore it03:30
DaSkreechWorks with all the rest of my life's problems03:30
Schuenemannhehehe03:30
fudgeyon my old imac gnome failed to start on my live cd install03:30
SchuenemannI can't... system gets very slow when it's about to pop03:30
dwidmannDaSkreech: Well said :D works for mine too03:31
flaccid0esi still find it ironic that with the kubuntu homepage for firefox you click on LTS and you get a 40403:31
fudgeyon my old imac gnome failed to start on my live cd install03:31
tucoWell I guess I have enough for tonight. Thanks for your help Kubuntu crowd always helpful :-)03:31
fudgeyon my old imac gnome failed to start on my live cd install03:31
DaSkreechWell if it pops up twice in five minutes I just restart teh sound server03:31
fudgeyon my old imac gnome failed to start on my live cd install03:31
flaccid0esa great example of the lack of testing in *ubuntu03:31
DaSkreechBut normally it comes from me playing three sound streams at teh same time03:31
flaccid0esamongst other things03:31
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BluesKajfudgey, stop repeating pls03:31
DaSkreechflaccid0es: firefox is not a KDE app03:32
jmichaelxfudgey: relax.... if someone knows something, they will respond03:32
fudgeyim just reposting03:32
flaccid0esDaSkreech: i didn't say it was03:32
Schuenemannwait for more time to repost again03:32
dwidmannfudgey: why would you want gnome to start anyway ;)03:32
fudgeyokie03:32
fudgeycuz nothign else works03:32
flaccid0esthe homepage is "About Kubuntu" and has kubuntu artwork03:32
fudgeytheres no kdm03:32
flaccid0esso tell me where the problem is? :p03:32
dwidmannno?03:32
DaSkreechflaccid0es: Feisty is planned to have a firefox specific front page03:32
fudgeylive cd only installs kdm!03:32
jmichaelxfudgey: i assume you are using a PPC version of ubuntu?03:32
fudgeyyeah03:32
fudgeyfucking ppc03:33
DaSkreechflaccid0es: It works fine in Konqueror is where the problem is03:33
flaccid0esDaSkreech: where did this kubuntu start page come from then if one doesn't exist ?03:33
bitbyteDr_willis so once i edit the grub list, do i need to do anything more to it?03:33
DaSkreech Firefox does not ship with Kubuntu and probably never will03:33
dwidmannfudgey: ctrl + alt + f1 - startx :)03:33
DaSkreechflaccid0es: It's from Konqueror and it works fine there03:33
flaccid0esits a 404, you get the same thing in konq: file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html03:33
fudgeylet me try03:33
fudgeyif not il be back03:33
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DaSkreechflaccid0es: It breaks in Konqueror for you?03:33
DaSkreechWhat did you do?03:33
flaccid0esyes a 404 is the same for all browsers03:33
jmichaelxmaybe an iceweasel someday will ship with it03:33
flaccid0esi did nothing03:34
jmichaelx:-D03:34
dwidmannthat didn't 404 for me03:34
Jucatoflaccid0es: it's a bug03:34
flaccid0esthis is dapper install. others have confirmed in the past the same thing03:34
flaccid0esa but that is still not yet fixed03:34
flaccid0esbug03:34
dwidmannoh, dapper . ...03:34
Dr_willisbitbyte,  nope.. grub dosent need to be reran - like lilo does03:34
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fudgeynope03:34
flaccid0esyes dapper is LTS ?03:34
dwidmannflaccid0es: don't count on any bugfixes in dapper, only security fixes03:34
DaSkreechflaccid0es: What are the steps that you took?03:34
flaccid0esno steps03:34
flaccid0esok so like where can i read about the LTS policy?03:35
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Schuenemannfirefox is the best man invention after the gunpownder03:35
bitbyteok Dr_willis, so all i need to do it take the stuff from the ubuntu one and put it in the mdv one?03:35
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flaccid0esseriously guys, i would like to read about TLS03:35
flaccid0eserr LTS03:36
DaSkreech!lts03:36
Dr_willisbitbyte,  it may be a bit more detaled then that.. but thats the gist of it.. grub has a lot of little things to watch out for.. but thats how i normally do it.03:36
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.03:36
Dr_willisbitbyte,  you just need the proper grub 'stanza' for the ubuntu booting.. NOT the whole file. :)03:36
bitbyteDr_willis, if i had mandriva on this box first and isntalled kubuntu, would it pick up the madriva installation?03:36
flaccid0esno IT manager would choose a product with 1 line explanation of support :)03:36
flaccid0esheh define support?03:37
DaSkreech!support03:37
bitbyteDr_willis, yeah, i know not the whole thing, just the part for the kubutnu boot03:37
ubotuFor your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support For IRC support, join #ubuntu / #kubuntu / #xubuntu etc03:37
Dr_willisflaccid0es,  i was about to ask that.. :)03:37
flaccid0esi've been here for ages03:37
flaccid0esits still a mystery!!!03:37
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fudgeywhats the command to install by text on the live cd?03:37
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flaccid0esoh i don't want paid support, i want to read about the LTS policy and what it gives me03:37
flaccid0esseems like its a load of BS03:37
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fudgeyoh thanks dwidmann03:38
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DaSkreechflaccid0es: They will have security updates for 5 years03:38
jmichaelxthe whole LTS thing is intended more (at least i always thought) for businesses , atc, that would be using paid supprt03:39
DaSkreechfor server packages03:39
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jmichaelxetc*03:39
fudgeywhats the command to install by text on the live cd?03:39
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dwidmannif you want to do a text mode install you need the alternate cd03:39
flaccid0escan i read about this, or just accept hearsay?03:39
flaccid0esno IT manager will accept a comment on IRC for support03:39
bitbytethe text installer is only on the alternate cd or the dvd afaik fudgey03:39
crazy_busAmarok isn't working I'm getting this error: "There is a bug in Amarok: instead of destroying your valuable database tables, I'm quitting"03:40
Jucatoflaccid0es: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/about-ubuntu/C/about-ubuntu.html#lts03:40
fudgeyaw crap03:40
fudgeyso I gotta dl another cd?03:40
fudgeywell if gdm will not start on my imac what else will...03:40
dwidmannxdm?03:40
DaSkreech!ppc03:40
ubotuppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.03:40
fudgeyxdm?03:41
jmichaelxPPC = soon to be not so fully supprted by ubuntu03:41
flaccid0esJucato: it says i get other updates, what are they? it also says quality assurance - to what extent?03:41
dwidmannfudgey, apart from that, I saw a really interesting way to do autologin without using a login manager, it looked cool03:41
fudgeyLOL03:41
DaSkreechjmichaelx: but but ps3...03:41
Dr_willisYep.. time to go to YellowDog Linux for PPC stuff03:41
Jucatoflaccid0es: security/bugfixes updates. not version updates03:41
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jmichaelxPS3 uses PPC?03:41
DaSkreechYup03:41
dwidmannfudgey: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15227403:41
Solaris444yes.03:41
Dr_willisit uses a CELL processor thats a ppc variant03:41
DaSkreechread teh PPC argument on teh wiki :)03:41
jmichaelxi had no idea lol03:41
Solaris444well Cell is a PPC variant.03:42
Solaris444er what willis said.03:42
Dr_willis:)03:42
Dr_willisand i dont even own one..03:42
flaccid0esJucato: why is that not detailed in the document. why is the document so hard to get to and why is quality assurance not defined. if i was quality assured, i wouldn't have to worry about bugs...03:42
fudgeyawesome03:42
Dr_willisnor do i EVER plan on getting a ps303:42
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DaSkreechFluxbuntu is trying to be a ppc/PS3 Distro but the last time I heard about fluxbuntu was .. well that article actually03:42
dwidmannI plan on getting one when the price becomes reasonable03:42
Solaris444Guys, I was just wondering.  Is it possible to make samba on kubuntu save my login credentials for a network share?03:42
whiz2I'm trying to configure vncserver anybody have any experience in it?03:43
DaSkreechflaccid0es: No software is bug free03:43
SolidSourceSolaris444: yes03:43
Dr_willisvnc - is very handy.03:43
Jucatoflaccid0es: 0 bugs is a technical impossibility, even with closed source software.03:43
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DaSkreechflaccid0es: If anyone assures you about that ..03:43
flaccid0esDaSkreech: i never said it was farken!03:43
Solaris444SolidSource: How would I do that?03:43
Dr_willisvnc also has a dozen variants and all sorts of little tricks and traps.03:43
Dr_willis:)03:43
dwidmannhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_processor03:43
flaccid0esyou guys just don't get it03:43
Jucatoflaccid0es: I'd suggest you also ask in #kubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-devel03:43
flaccid0esyou are assuring quality to the public03:43
Dr_willis0 bugs = all comments :)03:43
flaccid0esand not delivering....03:43
flaccid0esJucato: i don't think i'll waste my time :)03:43
jmichaelxflaccid0es: what are you carrying on about?03:44
flaccid0eswhy assure something, you cannot assure....03:44
DaSkreecha 404 on a software that you installed is not quality assurance?03:44
flaccid0essounds like commercial bull to me03:44
Jucatoflaccid0es: so it's more worthwhile to rant about not having documentation on these, etc. and it's a waste of time asking people who would know more about these stuff?03:44
whiz2vncserver specifically03:44
flaccid0eswell yes if it was quality, it wouldn't have a 40403:44
BluesKajwhaddya want for free ... if ya don't like linux , get vista ...see how debgged it is :)03:44
jmichaelxflaccid0es: you got a free OS with a guarantee of long term security updates03:44
flaccid0esif people don't complain, how will things change?03:45
Jucatoflaccid0es: your concept of quality seems to be based on "perfect/no errors"03:45
SolidSourceSolaris444: well, your host machine has to have the profile with the exact same username/passsword and then use smbpasswd to declare that user is allowed that access in samba03:45
DaSkreechbut you installed it. It wasn't intended to be there when it shipped03:45
flaccid0esbut i also get quality assurance03:45
Jucatoflaccid0es: you are complaining to the wrong people tthough03:45
flaccid0eswhatever the f*** that is03:45
Dr_williswhiz2,  theres several variants of vncserver. i tend to use the 'vnc4server' and clients03:45
dwidmannthat was already fixed for the "Edgy Eft" release by the looks of things flaccid0es03:45
flaccid0esJucato: its not defined any other way03:45
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whiz2i'm trying to use vnc to access a linux server from a win32 client03:45
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Jucatoso it's more worthwhile to rant in the wrong place than ask in the right place?03:46
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DaSkreechBSD fan I take it :)03:46
Dr_williswhiz2,  i normally ssh to the linux box, run vncserver as the user.. then run the vncslient on the windows box and connect to the linux machine.03:46
SolidSourceSolaris444: so if your username = RedBurn and password = money34...then each machine would have to have that exact same in order not to be asked for a password03:46
Solaris444Right.03:46
whiz2ok, but i dunno how to do any of that03:46
Dr_williswhiz2,  that gives you a 'desktop in the background' :)03:46
Dr_williswhiz2,  which part? its rather straight forward..03:46
Solaris444But I don't have to log in as that user right?03:46
whiz2can i controll the linux box from the win32 client cmputer?03:47
Dr_williswhiz2,  vnc can show you a 'desktop' in a window.. correct..03:47
whiz2What do I install, where do i put it, and how do i configure it?03:47
Dr_willisvnc on linux can also have several 'background' desktops that are not seen by anyone sitting in front of the linux box03:47
Dr_willis!vnc03:47
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX03:47
SolidSourceSolaris444: on the guest machine you do...unless you are given the option to save your username/password on the guest machine03:47
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Dr_williswhiz2,  this is on a local lan? or over the internet?03:48
whiz2both03:48
Solaris444thanks SolidSource.  I'll have to find some other way then because we cannot afford for the user of the machine to know the username and password for that share.03:48
Solaris444Hmm, perhaps I can do it on the server side.03:49
Solaris444I'll look into it.03:49
whiz2local right now, but want to have access over the internet as well03:49
Dr_willislocally is trivial.. over internet; vnc is not that secure.. thius the mention of OverSSH in that url.03:49
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Dr_willisyou can even use vnc and have a desktop on the desktop in a window. :)03:49
Dr_willisall locally03:49
SchuenemannDaSkreech, appearently I got rid of that message03:49
Dr_willisin a winow, with a desktop in a window... ect.. heh heh03:50
SchuenemannI unchecked "enable sound server"03:50
Dr_willisOR ya can use vnc to share the currently running desktop (but i never do it that way)03:50
Schuenemann!wma03:50
SolidSourceSolaris444: well, I have it setup sort of like that...but I have another user account setup so that ppl can login, but only if I give them the login info...then it has rotating password03:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:50
Solaris444thankyou for your help SolidSource.  This is the first KUbuntu desktop I have set up.03:50
dwidmannSchuenemann: the sound server doesn't seem that important anymore anyway ... AFAIK it's being/has been dropped in KDE403:50
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Solaris444It isn't bad.  I prefer SuSE, but it is a bit heavy on resources.03:51
whiz2I have VNC server/viewer running on my win32 platform right now and that's how I'm talking to you... I'm connected to it over the internet03:51
Solaris444This is a PIII 667MHz.03:51
yamathanWell, it's official -- my Windows installation is dead.03:51
Schuenemanndwidmann, I don't even know what it is for, since the sound works without it :)03:51
Solaris444Kubuntu runs very nicely on it.03:51
SolidSourceSolaris444: well if this help...this is what I followed to setup samba http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Samba_Server_for_files.2Ffolders_sharing_service03:51
whiz2I want to be able to do this to the linux box as well03:51
yamathanMy NTFS partition isn't showing up now, though!03:51
Schuenemannmaybe dapper comes without it, since I never got that message before?03:51
Dr_williswhiz2,  install vnc4server  then. or some other vncserver03:51
Dr_willis!info vnc4server03:51
ubotuvnc4server: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu1.6.10.1 (edgy), package size 1041 kB, installed size 2412 kB03:51
yamathanIs there any way that I could still back up my files from the NTFS partition that no longer seems to function for Windows?03:51
whiz2i ran apt-get install vncserver03:51
whiz2that package is installed, but I have no clue how to configure it03:52
Dr_williswhiz2,  or if you want to share the currently running desktop.. thers some other way to do that.03:52
Dr_williswhiz2,  run 'vncserver' from the shell...03:52
whiz2I want to be able to share the whole thing03:52
BluesKajSolaris444, suse ?...how do you deal with that messy Yast pkg manager ...it sucks03:52
Schuenemannwasn't there a program called kxconfig?03:52
Dr_willisgnome and kde both have some way of sharing the running desktop. but i never use it.. i find it very slow - and  for what i need vnc for - it dosent to the job i need. :)03:52
Solaris444BluesKaj: 10.2 isn't too bad.03:52
Solaris44410.1 was a mess.03:53
whiz2ty03:53
Solaris444BluesKaj: I hear 10.3 will use click n run for users.03:53
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DaSkreechhey BluesKaj03:53
Solaris444So that will help a lot.03:53
BluesKajyes , 10.1 was the reason i went with dapper03:53
whiz2I ran that from a F1 shell03:53
BluesKajhi DaSkreech03:53
SolidSourceanyone use FreeBSD?03:53
whiz2the server is running... will it start every time I start the linux box now?03:54
Dr_williswhiz2,  No..03:54
Dr_willisthat vncserver is for the specific user that started it.03:54
whiz2ok03:54
Dr_willisyou could in theory have a dozen+ vncserver/desktops running - each with different desktops :)03:54
Dr_willisthats what I use it for,.03:54
BluesKaji tried the freebsd live cd latest ...not to impresssed03:54
yamathanHey, guys -- is there any way I can recover my files from that NTFS partition?03:54
BluesKajtoo03:55
yamathanWinXP is dead, whereas I am not!  XD03:55
Dr_willisnow you just connect the vncviewer to the vncserver ip# and display #03:55
whiz2permission denied03:55
SolidSourceyamathon: you can mount the NTFS partition03:55
Dr_willisit should of asked to set a vncserver password also.03:55
Solaris444anyone want to hear a first hand "Vista Messed My Computer" story?03:55
yamathanSolidSource: For some reason it can't read it.03:55
yamathanIt's been like this since it's claimed it can't find Shell32.dll.03:55
SolidSourceyamathon: you need to install something03:56
whiz2ok i made a mistake03:56
SolidSource!mtfs > yamathon03:56
yamathanSolid:  ntfs-3G?03:56
whiz2how do i end it?03:56
SolidSource!ntfs > yamathon03:56
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yamathanI mean, I've been using it regularly!03:56
Dr_williswhiz2,  use the command 'vncserver --kill :1' or whatever # the desktop was03:56
Dr_willisit may be -kill or --kill i forget03:56
yamathanAccessing NTFS files, you know, from Linux.03:56
Dr_williswhiz2,  thats the 'proper' way to kill it.03:56
Kite_DHcould somebody help me with "Kaffeine" ??03:57
SolidSourceyamathon: thats one, but I found it don't work too well...I used to use the other one...forgot name right now03:57
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yamathanntfs-3g?03:57
yamathanOr the, uh, captive one.03:57
BluesKajntfs-3g works for me03:57
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Solaris444Kite_DH: what specifically?03:59
SolidSourceyamathon: well maybe the partition is corrupted..you will need a file recovery program possibly03:59
yamathanHmm.03:59
BluesKajno bootloader to access windows partition, yamathan ?03:59
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yamathanBlues, yes, but the problem is that winlogon.exe apparently relies on this driver that got corrupted.03:59
whiz2for some reason i can only start the server as root03:59
yamathanWhen it's shell32.dll that's corrupted, well, you're pretty well done fore.04:00
yamathan*for, even.04:00
Schuenemannhow do I remove this bouncing stuff when I load a program?04:00
SchuenemannI remember something related to kxconfig, but I can't  run it04:00
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kiersiedoes annybody know if flash9 also avalibel is for amd6404:01
fudgeywhat if it says GDM error , no disk space left on device when starting gdm???04:01
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BluesKajyamathan, perhaps Ultimate Boot CDcan help04:01
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SolidSourceyamathon: ok are you trying to recover windows or just retrieve files to switch to (k)ubuntu?04:01
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yamathanSolidSource: The first would be great, but I'm fine with option two.04:02
yamathanBluesKaj: What's this you say?04:02
Kite_DHSolaris444: online streaming04:02
SolidSourceyamathon: for recovery, ultimate boot cd would probably be one of your main options04:02
Kite_DHSolaris444: in mozilla firefox04:02
Solaris444Kite_DH: Don't use Kaffeine.04:02
yamathanAh, goodies!04:02
Solaris444Kite_DH: Use the mplayer plugin.04:03
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Kite_DHSolaris444: is it for firefox?04:03
yamathanIf it might solve the problem that would be great ...04:03
fudgeywhat if it says GDM error , no disk space left on device when starting gdm???04:03
BluesKajcheck out their site UBCD ...http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/04:03
Solaris444install packages mplayer and mplayer_plugin04:03
yamathanBut, uh, how do I fix the wee little problem of win32.dll being, uh, dead?04:03
Solaris444yes it is for firefox.04:03
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Kite_DHSolaris444: thx, got it04:03
Solaris444no problem.04:03
Kite_DHSolaris444: should i install mozilla-player only or mplayer?04:04
fudgeyboth04:04
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Kite_DHok04:04
fudgeytry vlc04:04
Solaris444fudgey: vlc always crashes for me04:04
fudgeyaw04:04
fudgeydang it like plays all types04:05
Kite_DHthx for the help04:05
Kite_DHi got VLC04:05
Kite_DHi use it for softsubs04:05
Kite_DHdoes mplay support softsubs?04:05
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Solaris444noooo idea.04:05
fudgeywhat if it says GDM error , no disk space left on device when starting gdm???04:05
lokihow do i associate certain filetypes with a program04:05
Kite_DHhmmm, im gonna see it then :)04:05
lokilike all html files will open vim04:06
Kite_DHkate?04:06
Kite_DHmaybe..no idea04:06
HymnToLifeKite_DH, yes, but badly - imo04:06
Kite_DHHymnToLife: sry, was justa n idea of a linux n00b =)04:06
Solaris444loki: change your Konquerer settings.04:06
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Solaris444file associations are in there.04:06
HymnToLife[04:06]  <Kite_DH> does mplay support softsubs? <= was an answer to this ;)04:06
whiz2ok I still need a bit of help with the vncserver04:07
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whiz2I have it up, and running, but when I login from anothercomputer, all i get is a blank "root" desktop04:07
fudgeywhat if it says GDM error , no disk space left on device when starting gdm??? what should I do..get the text based install cd or ??04:07
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HymnToLifefudgey, if you _do_ have space left, it's most likely a permissions issue04:08
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fudgeyhmm04:08
fudgeyI do sudo before all cmds04:08
lokithx04:08
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HymnToLifefudgey, check the permissions of your home dir04:09
BluesKajsacktime for me folks ... been a long day ..nite all04:09
fudgey??04:09
fudgeychmod /home 777?04:09
radioaktivstormi have a question, i keep getting strangeness in the way kde displays (usually in the horizontal scrollbars) what is this and how can i fix it?04:10
HymnToLifefudgey, no04:10
HymnToLifetypically, it's chown'ed to you and chmod'ed 75504:10
HymnToLifeor 700 if you don't want other users to access it04:10
fudgeyo04:11
fudgeyim sure its a memory problem cuz Its an old imac04:11
HymnToLifemaybe04:12
HymnToLifeyou can use df to see if you are running low on diskspace04:12
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fudgey=/04:13
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Dr_willisHmm.. that was a yummy toasted ham and cheese on crosient... i may have to go make another.. :)04:16
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Dr_willisCrossient?04:16
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fudgeywhy would the live cd create a home folder that has wrong permissions?04:17
HymnToLifeoh, it's a Live CD ?04:18
fudgeyyeah04:18
fudgeyim installing now04:18
HymnToLifeI guess you'd be better with the Alternate then :p04:18
fudgeyI cant get gdm to start!04:18
fudgeyok04:18
HymnToLifegdm ?04:18
fudgeyyeah04:18
fudgeyits from the memory problem04:19
whiz2Dr_willis: is vnc4server gui based?04:19
HymnToLifeI didn't recall the liveCD showing the gdm screen04:19
fudgeytime to dl the alternate cd04:19
fudgeyit does04:19
Dr_williswhiz2,  there are no 'guibased' vnc servers - you are thinking in windows terms.04:19
Dr_willisyou could call the kde/gnome shared desktop featues guibased i guess...04:20
whiz2I can only get vncserver to login as root... how can I change the user it logs in as04:20
whiz2?04:20
Dr_williswhiz2,  i run vncserver as the user i want to have the desktop running as/04:20
whiz2I tried running it as my user, but was denied04:20
Dr_willisssh in as user, and that user cant run 'vncserver' eh?04:21
Dr_willisor was the connection denied?04:21
whiz2i dunno how to use ssh either04:21
Dr_williswell its time to get reading i guess. :)04:21
whiz2opening the files were denied04:21
whiz2lol04:21
Dr_willisssh ip#04:21
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Dr_willisopening what files?04:21
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whiz2one moment04:21
Dr_willisone step at a time. heh heh04:21
Dr_willisif you got some fixed font errors im going to scream.. :)04:22
Dr_willisvncserver puts some logs in the users .vnc/whatever dirs..04:22
Dr_willisthose may be wroth reading04:22
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whiz2can I opst the error messasge I got here?04:24
whiz2post*04:24
fudgeyyyeah04:24
whiz2jason@Linux-Network:~$ vncserver04:24
whiz2cat: /home/jason/.vnc/passwd: Permission denied04:24
whiz2sh: /home/jason/.vnc/Linux-Network:1.log: Permission denied04:24
whiz2sh: /home/jason/.vnc/Linux-Network:1.pid: Permission denied04:24
whiz204:24
whiz2New 'X' desktop is Linux-Network:104:24
fudgeyit be flooding04:24
whiz204:24
whiz2Starting applications specified in /etc/X11/Xsession04:24
fudgey=)04:24
whiz2Log file is /home/jason/.vnc/Linux-Network:1.log04:24
Jucato!pastebin | whiz204:24
whiz204:24
ubotuwhiz2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:24
whiz2sh: /home/jason/.vnc/Linux-Network:1.log: Permission denied04:24
whiz2jason@Linux-Network:~$04:24
fudgeysudo vncserver04:25
Dr_williswhy do you need to 'sudo vncserver' ? that will run it as the root user.. which is not needed04:25
whiz2http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6508/04:25
fudgeypermission denied?04:25
fudgeywhenever I see that I use sudo Lol04:25
fudgeycuz most of the time it works04:25
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whiz2when I sudo vncserver it starts the serv i c e ,      a nDI L oggsot  ini tas root only04:26
Dr_willisremove the .vnc dir and try again just as that user.04:26
Dr_willisDONT use 'sudo vncserver'   :)04:26
Dr_willisit may be making the .vnc dir with root permissions04:26
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fudgeythen do a chmod!04:26
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whiz2When I sudo vncserver it starts X but kdm refuses login so I get a blank desktop with no UI.04:27
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fudgeyis there any step by step instructions on installing ubuntu 6.06 on an imac via alternate cd?04:27
justin1278Hello, can somebody assist me with setting up Wine?04:27
fudgeysetup?04:27
surgyhey guys04:28
surgyi need help04:28
fudgeyjust ask the question04:28
Dr_williswhiz2,  you dont want to use 'sudo vncserver'    the vncserver command 'should' start the window manager defined in .vnc/xstartup04:28
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whiz2Dr_willis: That's ~/.vnc/xstartup?04:28
surgyguildwars crashed and aparently cedega is still runing becuase im still getting audio output from the game but no vide.... isnt there a command called "sudo kill wineserver" or something? i tried it as i typed it but i get bash errors04:28
Dr_willisyes each user has their own .vnc dir04:28
Dr_willisso they got their own settings - the dir is created when the user first runs vncserver04:29
fudgeysudo killall?04:29
fudgeysudo killall wineserver?04:29
justin1278Can somebody help me with installing Wine?04:29
surgythank you04:29
Dr_willis!wine04:29
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:30
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fudgeysudo aptitude install wine!04:30
Dr_willis>hic<04:30
justin1278i've done that04:30
justin1278but it doesn't run04:30
fudgeythen04:30
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fudgeywine04:30
fudgeywinecfg04:30
Jucatojustin1278: what doesn't run? you use wine like this: wine program.exe04:30
Jucato(you have to be in the folder where program.exe is in)04:30
fudgeyyeah04:30
fudgeyor04:30
fudgeywine /blah/blah/blah.exe04:30
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Jucatoyep that works too :)04:31
whiz2Dr_willis: I don't have a xstartup in ~/.vnc all I have is a log, a pid and passwd.04:31
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osiris!restricted formats > osiris04:31
justin1278Jucato: I typed Wine in the Run Command window but it doesn't open, it shows it loading but it just stops.04:31
Dr_willisnow ya know why i use vnc4server :)04:31
Jucatojustin1278: it won't really show up. you have to give it a program to run04:31
Dr_williswhiz2,  make one perhaps? theres too many variants on vncserver now a days.. trying to be too smart.04:31
Jucatojustin1278: it's usually used in the command line04:31
fudgeyis there any step by step instructions on installing ubuntu 6.06 on an imac via alternate cd?04:32
justin1278Jucato: Ok, can I install a Windows program on a CD using Wine?04:32
fudgeyyeah04:32
whiz2Dr_willis: I think I can lookup which vnc is running...04:32
Jucatojustin1278: yes. but not all Windows programs will run in Wine04:32
Dr_williswhiz2,  check those files with 'ls -l *' and see who owns them.04:32
justin1278Jucato: Are there specific types that won't? If so what kind can I expect to not run?04:32
fudgeylook at the wine database04:33
justin1278Ok04:33
Schuenemannhas anybody installed amsn? I get errors due to that tcl04:33
Jucatojustin1278: http://appdb.winehq.org/04:33
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whiz2in /home/jason/.vnc all files are root:root.04:33
fudgeyis there any step by step instructions on installing ubuntu 6.06 on an imac via alternate cd?04:33
Dr_williswhiz2,  thats from you doing sudo vncserver is My guess...04:33
whiz2should I chown then jason:jason?04:33
Dr_williswhiz2,  sudo rm -r /home/jason/.vnc04:33
Dr_willisis ibne way.. or chown/chmod them04:34
whiz2Dr_willis: Yeah, I'll just blow them out and see if I can login as jason...04:34
Dr_willisbrb,,, snack time04:34
whiz2Dr_willis: Err, run vncserver as jason.04:34
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justin1278Jucato: I've put the CD I want in the drive, now how do I use Wine to run it?04:35
fudgeymount it04:36
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fudgeyI havent figured out how to run an app that requires the cd04:37
justin1278how? sorry, Im new at linux..04:37
justin1278oh ok04:37
fudgeydoes that app require the cd to run?04:37
justin1278no, just the cd to install04:37
fudgeyI just open the cd and launch the setup with wine04:37
justin1278how do i do this?04:37
fudgeyplaces...desktop...file system...cdrom04:38
justin1278how do I open the CD and launch the setup in Wine?04:39
fudgeythe cd should be on desktop..04:39
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justin1278it is04:39
fudgeydouble click it!04:39
fudgeylook for setup.exe or seomthing04:40
fudgeyopen it with wine04:40
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justin1278ok04:40
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Schuenemannhas anybody installed amsn?04:41
christian_Hi! I have problem with a Genius NetScroll+Optical mouse!04:41
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christian_in Kubuntu 6.1!04:42
slyfoxWhat is going on? I just downlaoded a manual in pdf and Kpdf asks me some kind of password to read the document, in windows it does not ask anything it jsut opens it ?!04:42
christian_please help me...04:42
slyfoxchristian_: ubuntuforums.org is the best place to look04:42
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fudgeycant wait for version 7 ubuntu!04:42
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HymnToLifeof course you can, and you most likely will ;)04:43
Dr_willisi want version 904:43
Dr_willis:)04:43
fudgeyLOL04:43
HymnToLifethough you could upgrade to it now, if you like your system on the bleeding edge04:44
osiriscan anyone recomend an itunes or napster ish app for linux ?04:44
HymnToLife!amarok04:44
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok04:44
osirissomething more than a player.  where i can purchase the music04:44
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whiz2How do you add a command to init.d or inet.d?04:44
Dr_williswhat? thats legal?04:45
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cpk1amarok is awesome04:45
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Dr_willisheh04:45
Menai had this while compiling04:45
Dr_willissome places are beginning to sell/download mp3's now legally04:45
Mena C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check04:45
MenaSee `config.log' for more details.04:45
HymnToLifeMena, do you have build-essential installed ?04:45
Dr_williswhiz2,  you wouldent.. those are service dirs and have special scripts04:45
MenaHymnTolife, i dont know04:46
khaije1osiris: apollon will allow you to exchange files, also i'd reccomend emusic04:46
MenaHymnTolife, i dont think so04:46
whiz2Dr_willis: I want to run vncserver as a service.04:46
khaije1and yes amarok is boss04:46
HymnToLifeMena, sudo apt-get install build-essential04:46
Dr_williswhiz2,  theres some guides on doing that.. but its proberly beyond you.. plus its not really needed.04:46
Menaok04:46
Dr_williswhiz2,  i had vncserver set where it would spawn as needed new sessions when i vncclient connected to a box.04:47
fudgeyno sudo aptitude install tremulous04:47
fudgeythen04:47
fudgeysudo suicide04:47
whiz2Dr_willis: Okay, how?04:47
Dr_willisbut that took away one of the cooler features of the vncserver.. desktops running in the background/persistant04:47
Dr_williswhiz2,  better off proberly just sshing into the box. and running the vncserver as the user you want04:47
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whiz2Dr_willis: I have ssh client/server working too.04:48
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slyfoxCan somone please see if they can open this pdf or there is a problem with my Kubuntu  http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/G1/C2808_G1_hw.pdf04:48
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linggahello evrybody ..04:49
NightBirdhi lingga04:49
whiz2slyfox: You probably need to type your user password because it needs root privlidges.04:49
NightBirdslyfox, it's opening right now.... and it's open04:49
linggaanyone know how to create root password in kubuntu 6.10 ?04:49
NightBirdlingga, it is your password04:50
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NightBirdwhen asked for the super user password, you supply your password to enable super user privleges for the next command04:50
Dr_willislingga,  giving root their own password is a linux test. :) if you can figure out how to do it... then your linux skills are good enough to let you do it.04:50
christian_[17180608.808000]  usb 3-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 304:51
christian_[17180620.352000]  usb 3-3: device not accepting address 3, error -11004:51
christian_[17180620.464000]  usb 3-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 404:51
cpk1i was gonna to say something of the same Dr_willis ^^04:51
christian_[17180632.008000]  usb 3-3: device not accepting address 4, error -11004:51
Dr_willisits best to get into the 'sudo habbit'04:51
christian_[17180632.120000]  usb 3-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 504:51
christian_[17180642.544000]  usb 3-3: device not accepting address 5, error -11004:51
christian_[17180642.656000]  usb 3-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 604:51
christian_[17180653.080000]  usb 3-3: device not accepting address 6, error -11004:51
MenaHymnTolife, how to keep sure that i compile correctly04:51
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cpk1Mena: what are you compiling?04:51
whiz2Dr_willis: I can assign password to root, too bad kdm doesn't allow root login. ;)04:51
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NightBirdchristian_, don't paste to the chatroom, use a paste site, than paste the link in here04:51
slyfoxNightBird: let me try04:51
HymnToLifeMena, if you see some error messages, it didn't compile correctly04:51
Dr_williswhiz2,  thats easially fixed also04:51
Menacpk1, a style (lipistk2.2.2)04:51
Dr_williswhiz2,  but not a good idea04:52
MenaHymnTolife, ok04:52
slyfoxNightBird: no, entering my password does not open it04:52
christian_who is the "Paste site"?04:52
whiz2Dr_willis: I know, totally breaking the security model.04:52
HymnToLifewhiz2, you can easily configure it to, but I wouldn't recommend it04:52
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HymnToLifeand neither tell you how to do it :p04:52
NightBird!paste04:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:52
Dr_willisslyfox,  that pdf opens fine for me.04:52
NightBird!paste | christian_04:52
ubotuchristian_: please see above04:52
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cpk1Mena: dont confuse errors with warnings04:52
NightBirdslyfox, why is it asking for a super user's password to open the pdf?04:53
christian_ok04:53
christian_tanks04:53
christian_sorry04:53
slyfoxDr_willis: this one right ?  in english?  http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/G1/e2808_g1.pdf04:53
Menacpk1, ok i had this can you see it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6510/04:53
slyfoxDr_willis: Kpdf ?04:53
Dr_willisyep04:53
Dr_willisthat one.. in kpdf04:53
Menacpk1,bec i try make install with sudo but i dont sure if it was right04:53
Dr_willisim running sidux at the moment.. not kubuntu however...04:54
Menacpk1,this is teh last lines04:54
Menalast*04:54
Menathe*04:54
cpk1it finished fine it looks like04:54
slyfoxDr_willis: becasue me and few otehr people in KDE channel cannot open it04:54
Dr_willisslyfox,  i can 'read' it.. but i cant READ it... its in jappenese or somthing.. :)04:55
Menacpk1,ok04:55
Dr_willisslyfox,  i did 'download it to disk' then opened it.04:55
linggaso I can't log in as super user ?04:55
slyfoxDr_willis: no ! you need to get the english one, this one http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/G1/e2808_g1.pdf04:55
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Dr_willisok lets try that one04:56
slyfoxDr_willis: please try again04:56
Dr_willislingga,  you can if you know what you are doing.04:56
slyfoxDr_willis: can you please get in here: #kde and reports about that pdf - english one04:57
Dr_willisslyfox,  ok. THAT one says its locked..04:57
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slyfoxDr_willis: aha!04:57
slyfoxDr_willis: but it opens fine in windows xp04:57
Dr_willissounds like a security breach in xp! :)04:58
SlackRatDr_willis: how do did get sidux up, off which kanotix release?04:58
Dr_willisSlackRat,  there was a relase on disrtowatch 4 days ago i just downloaded04:59
SlackRatreally? rc ?04:59
SlackRatbeta?04:59
Dr_willisrc3 or 4 or somthing...04:59
SlackRathows it compare to kanotix back in the day? same thing pretty much?05:00
[GuS] hi Guys... Ktorrent is not working on Feisty 4? i can't search nothing05:00
Dr_willisits basifially debian with a few little tweaks...05:00
[GuS] always i got an search error05:00
Dr_williscant tell much of a diff.05:00
SlackRati know, i ran kanotix  till the easter release was just an exercise in futilitiy than it kinda stopped and i gave up05:00
Dr_willisfigured id play with another disto till feisty farting fawn got out...05:01
Dr_willis:)05:01
SlackRatand the kanotix team split and went off to carry on a Sid based release05:01
linggaDr_willis: i want ti intall ati driver in my new kubuntu that needs root access, what should I do ?05:01
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SlackRatlmao at farting fawn05:01
Dr_willislingga,  use the proper use of 'sudo' where needed..05:01
Dr_willis!ati05:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:01
SlackRatrofl05:01
SlackRatoh god what an image.....05:01
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SlackRatfarting fawn05:02
Dr_willis:)05:02
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SlackRatlmao05:02
Dr_williswould make for a good wallpaper eh?05:02
Dr_willis:)\05:02
SlackRathelp......05:02
Dr_willisBambie and Thumper in the woods....05:02
SlackRatmy stomach hurts05:02
Dr_willisand a can of beans..05:02
SlackRatbrraaaaaap!05:02
Menacpk1, do you know why my lipistik didnt upgrade to 2.2.2 after compiling05:02
SlackRatheh05:02
Dr_willisMena,  it may of installed to the wrong dir.05:03
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linggaDr_willis:  ic, so for security reason kubuntu disabled root login by default.. hmm05:03
Dr_willisMena,  ive seen alot of themes that install to  the wrong place05:03
Dr_willislingga,  by default - you cant directly login as root.05:03
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SlackRatsecurity and KEQ05:03
fanscore!fr05:03
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:03
bitbyteDr_willis, i got that grub thing fixed, thanks for the help05:03
MenaDr_Willis, So what to do05:03
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Dr_willisMena,  i recall when i compiled some themes i had to give some option to the ./configure scripts05:04
Dr_willis./configure PREFIX=`somekde-commandhere`  that showed where the kdedir was .. (i think its /usr ok kubuntu)05:04
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Dr_willisyou may want to apt-get remove the older theme as well05:04
Menayes kubuntu05:05
MenaDr_willis, ok05:05
Kite_DHDr_willis: why cant i create /usr/lib/win32 ???05:05
SlackRatdo you need to install the driver from a non gui tty?05:05
linggaDr_willis: how about 'su' command is that possible to do that ? because I want using kubuntu in the class and I want to show to my student how to do 'su' command..05:05
Dr_williskde-config  --prefix05:05
slyfoxIs it posssible and is it the right way to do so? Say some other use is loged in on my Kubuntu machine, and new updates are available can I the "roor" user do the updates without logging out that current user and logging into my account to do the update? Becasue when I tried to enter my password in other user's accoutn to update I could not do it.05:05
Dr_willislingga,  su can work.. but may not work totally how you expect. its best to use sudo05:05
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SlackRatlingga.....its sudo05:05
Dr_willisKite_DH,  first guess.. you are not doing it as root with sudo as needed05:06
Kite_DHDr_willis: how is that possible?05:06
Dr_willisslyfox,  you can login as user, and do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"05:06
SlackRata root account cant be activated, but it is easy to trash your ubuntu , more so than with distros that have su access by default05:06
Dr_willisKite_DH,  why not tell us WHY/What you are trying to do?05:06
SlackRatand DONT try that root account in gui05:07
Dr_willisKite_DH,  sudo mkdir /whatever/the/heck/ya/want05:07
Kite_DHDr_willis: the guys in #mplayer said i should create it and put the codecs in there05:07
slyfoxDr_willis: and it will ask me for the sudo password and I will enter it and it will work eventhough I am logged in under some other than admnistrator user account ?05:07
SlackRatsudo ati-install.sh or whatever would work for the driver....or should05:07
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Dr_willisKite_DH,  they dont know ubuntu/kubuntu then.. you DONT need to install the w32codecs that way05:07
Dr_willis!w32codecs05:07
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs05:07
fanscore!fr05:07
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:07
Dr_willisKite_DH,  you are doing it the hardway05:08
SlackRatsudo gives the user temporary root powers05:08
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Dr_willis!codecs05:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:08
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daleachguys this seems pretty strange to me.. so yesterday I was installing Xgl and Compiz... I'm in compiz right now got wobbly windows and all but when I go to glxinfo | grep direct gets me "direct rendering : No" how is this possible?05:09
slyfoxDr_willis: and it will ask me for the sudo password and I will enter it and it will work eventhough I am logged in under some other than admnistrator user account ?05:10
daleachI thought that was a huge requirement of xgl/ compiz and stuff05:10
Kite_DHDr_willis: hmm...can u help me installing the mplayer codecs then?05:10
Kite_DHDr_willis: i got the folder with the codec files, what to do with it?05:10
SchuenemannKite_DH, done sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs ?05:10
Dr_willisKite_DH,  you dont need to do any of that.. you enable the severas repository, then apt-get install it...05:10
linggaDr_willis: how if another user log in to my kubuntu and doing sudo, what happen ?05:11
Dr_willislingga,  just try it and see.. :)05:11
bonbonthejonis there a command to scan a disk for errors05:11
spitwise!codecs | Kite_DH05:11
ubotuKite_DH: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:11
Kite_DHDr_willis: how can i delete the dir again?05:11
slyfoxKite_DH: http://www.diigo.com/redirect?http%3A%2F%2Ffosswire.com%2F2007%2F01%2F24%2Fubuntu-tip-get-mplayer-and-play-everything05:11
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Dr_willisif a user connects and runs sudo whatever.. its the same as if you did it locally.05:11
Dr_willisKite_DH,  'rm' command05:11
linggaDr_willis: :)05:11
SlackRathmn, i dont see any release iso for sidux, it leads to a debian parent directory05:12
slyfoxDr_willis: ok, thanks will try that.05:12
Kite_DHDr_willis: it says "No such file or directory" tho its there05:12
daleachanyone know why my glxinfo prints direct rending no?05:12
slyfoxKite_DH: link above is your guide to mplayer05:12
spitwiserm -rf /path/to/dir05:12
Kite_DHslyfox: thx05:12
Kite_DHspitwise: thx05:12
SlackRatlingga, that other person still needs your password to use sudo05:13
Kite_DHworks05:13
Kite_DHthx05:13
spitwisesure05:13
Kite_DHthx for your help05:13
SlackRatrmdir05:14
SchuenemannSlackRat, I guess I got rid of that sound server problem... I just disabled it :D05:15
SlackRatah, found sidux........05:15
SlackRatdisabled what? kde soundsystem?05:15
Schuenemannthe sound server05:15
linggaSlackRat: so the first user created is the super user ?05:15
SlackRatso you have no sound?05:15
Schuenemannno, I have sound05:16
SchuenemannI don't know what is that sound server for05:16
Dr_willislingga,  the semi-super-user. :)05:16
SlackRatno the first user and only user is a user who can sudo with their password to su privileges05:16
linggaDr_willis: how to create full super user :)05:17
SlackRatits in the documentation and highly NOT recommended05:17
SlackRati used it , stupidly with full gui root account and borked my system05:18
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Schuenemannwhat do you mean by first and only user?05:18
Kite_DHk, its done05:18
Schuenemannwhat if you have 2?05:18
Dr_willislingga,  thats homework.. when you figure it out.. then grasshopper it will be time for you to go to the next level.05:18
SlackRatyou set up your system, and presumably can add users to it05:18
SlackRatthere are ways to exclude users certain permissions05:19
Schuenemannand the only user able to run su commands is the 1st ?05:19
linggaDr_willis: okay will, I'm the new comer in kubuntu... :)05:19
SlackRatsudo commands, if you are the one administering the system, you can exclude other users from sudo rights.....unless they just open their own account on your box05:19
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SlackRatand know what theyre doing.  spelling out how to enable a full root account in an irc channel would be irresponsible, check the docs if you insist on trying it05:20
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SlackRat:-P05:21
Schuenemannhehe05:21
SchuenemannI was just curious... I'm the only one using this computer05:21
SlackRatthen someone else just using it for a while, without their own acccount has to know your password to use sudo05:22
emacheteanybody know how can I install nokia 3220 as modem05:22
SlackRatotherwise, nada05:22
linggaSlackRat: how about modem problem, I can't access my internal modem, I'm using win modem in my laptop.. any idea ?05:23
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SlackRatack, winmodems dont play nice with linux....i suggest googling winmodems and ndiswrapper05:23
SlackRator getting another modem05:24
Dr_willisor a hammer :)05:24
SlackRattrue05:24
SlackRatit can be done but its a pain05:24
SlackRatresistance is futile, lol05:24
lingga!ping05:25
ubotupong05:25
SlackRatwow, the sidux iso is small05:25
fudgeyThe Starting Line05:25
Dr_willisSlackRat,  because so little is included. :)05:25
fudgeyThe Early November05:26
SlackRatis synaptic included?05:26
Dr_willisSlackRat,  it did have a nice script to get the nvida drivers going05:26
Dr_willisnot that i saw. :)05:26
fudgeySomething Corporate05:26
Dr_willishad to install it.05:26
SlackRati liked hacking kanotix, till it shriveled up and died05:26
Dr_willismissing a lot of the kde stuff as well.05:26
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SlackRatyeah, my first kanotix was kanotix lite.......05:26
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maryen_hi05:28
tarelerulzDo any of you know where the driver for you activer kernel are ? on the filesystem05:28
maryen_anyone wanna help me out with something?05:29
SlackRatdid you need to run extra scripts when you installed like in kanotix final death throes?05:29
SlackRatand is anyone from kanotix still working with kanotix?05:29
HymnToLifetarelerulz, /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel05:29
SlackRatmaryen, if you could be specific, maybe.....05:29
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maryen_SlackRat: well, I wrote a script to install a game under wine and configure wine to run it properly, and I was wondering if someone could help me test it.05:30
SlackRatack, i ve never had any real luck at all with wine....have you checked #wine?05:31
SchuenemannI know this is a stupid question, but how can I change konqueror's background?05:31
maryen_SlackRat: it's not really a wine question05:31
SlackRator you could ask so more people in here05:32
maryen_SlackRat: i was wondering if someone could help me test my script05:32
SlackRatif its to install a game under wine, i dont mess with wine......but maybe someone here wants to give it a shot05:32
maryen_er but then again i could do that in the forums05:32
SlackRati think wine might also be interested in an app specific script for their utility05:33
maryen_hmm05:33
maryen_well first i need to see if it works on anything but my computer05:34
tarelerulzI try to use my wiresless  card and I can see networks ,but I can't connect to them. It does not work with dcp05:35
tarelerulzDo any of you know what might be up05:35
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admin__hey05:36
admin__need some help ppl05:36
admin__with installin easybuntu05:36
SlackRatmaybe if we knew what kind of help?05:36
SlackRatwhats wrong with it05:36
SlackRatmaryen.....im sure wine devs have a variety of computers for testing.....05:37
admin__dont no what to do after i do the last update step05:37
SlackRatand can help you tweak anything that needs work05:37
SlackRatwhich was the last step05:37
SlackRat?05:37
SlackRateasyubuntu takes a while05:37
admin__sudo apt-get update05:38
admin__takes awhile for?05:38
SlackRatand some folks have problems with it...i havent......easy ubuntu is a gui05:38
SlackRathave you apt-get updated your system recently....?05:39
admin__just before05:39
admin__fisrt time just installed kubuntu yesterday05:39
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SlackRatso its up to date, you should be able to run easyubuntu05:40
admin__how do i run it05:40
SlackRatchoose what you want installed, and apply05:40
SlackRattype easyubuntu on command line iirc05:41
SlackRator find it in kmenu05:41
Kite_DHhow to find out what mplayer version i got?05:41
SlackRatfire up mplayer and look under help/about05:41
SlackRatusually shows version05:41
SlackRator run mplayer -v05:42
admin__how do i find kmenu05:42
SlackRatclick on the big k on your task bar05:42
Kite_DHlol05:42
SlackRatfirst icon, like windows start05:42
Kite_DH=)05:42
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eric_whats the best imaging software to use?05:43
Kite_DHadobe photoshop05:43
Kite_DHlol05:43
eric_noo lol05:43
Kite_DHu have to find that out urself i think05:43
eric_i mean to make an image of your desktop05:44
Kite_DHoh05:44
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eric_haha05:44
Kite_DHsnapshot program?05:44
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eric_nope05:44
eric_incase your latptop crashes05:44
eric_you can restore it with an image05:44
Kite_DH..no idea, ask the guys here05:44
eric_i was haha05:45
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dannnnnnnn___how can i play wmv's in kubuntu05:45
Kite_DHSlackRat: how to upgrade my MPlayer 1.0pre8 to 1.0rc105:45
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Kite_DHa death god05:46
Kite_DHwow05:46
DjVaipi cant find05:46
DjVaipeasyubuntu05:46
SlackRatdoes mplayer show a new version avail in synaptic?05:46
Kite_DHwait ima check05:46
SlackRatthen type on command line Dj05:47
SlackRatif you already installed it05:47
Kite_DHi got it installed05:47
SlackRatif not, you can try just uninstalling the old, and download and install the new deb pkg05:47
DjVaipbash: easyubuntu: command not found05:47
Kite_DHbut i want to upgrade it05:47
Kite_DHhmm, not it doesnt show a new one05:47
DjVaipok how to uninstall old05:47
SlackRatok, uninstall with synaptic, or with apt-get remove mplayer05:48
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SlackRatfind the latest, hopefully in a deb pkg , and install it05:48
SlackRatand pray05:48
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SlackRatsynaptic has a show upgrades option05:49
DjVaip<SlackRat> how] 05:49
surgyanyone know the minimum sys requirements for kde? i got a 700mhz with 256mb ram and an ati 32mb card........ any ideas of the type of performance i can expect?05:49
SlackRatdecent but no lightning fast05:50
DjVaipok how to instsall firefox05:50
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SlackRatim on 256 ram and its quite usable05:50
khaije1ME TOOO!05:50
SlackRatsudo apt-get install firefox05:50
SlackRator for gui junkies theres synanptic....use it, its like a free version of ordering from amazon05:51
SlackRatlol05:51
DjVaiplibnss3 E: Package firefox has no installation candidate05:51
surgyslackrat yeah my gf ran kde on 64 mb ram at 400mhz proc and it ran...... just slow05:51
SlackRatyup05:51
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surgydjvaip: try this: sudo apt-cache search firefox05:52
SlackRattry sudo apt-get install firefox-mozilla05:52
DjVaiplibnss3 - Network Security Service Libraries - runtime05:52
khaije1or even sudo apt-get install clue05:52
SlackRator browse synaptic05:52
SlackRatclue? it gives clues?05:52
surgyi think that was a sick joke05:52
SlackRatif youre new, try synaptic05:52
SlackRatlmao05:52
surgymeant to confuse newbies05:53
SlackRatheh05:53
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surgykhaije1: lol had me wandering "wtf, a package called clue installs firefox?"05:53
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DjVaipsurgy: libnss3 - Network Security Service Libraries - runtime05:53
khaije1sorry, it's rude to interupt ;-)05:54
DjVaipwhat cmd to kill all update programs05:54
surgydjvaip: not it close you terminal and go to kde menu >> system >> adept package manager05:54
surgydjvaip: sudo killall ?05:54
DjVaipkk05:54
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cpk1lol there really is a package called clue05:55
surgyoh yeah?05:55
DjVaipif adpet dosent load?05:55
surgywhats it do?05:55
SlackRatdoesnt kill all shut down your system?05:55
spitwisenah05:55
surgydjvaip: its a peice of shit try again05:55
khaije1!clue05:55
SlackRatadept is basically an update tool05:55
ubotuclue: Package to ease upgrading, delete me. In component universe, is optional. Version 20050523-1 (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 36 kB05:55
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khaije1well waddayaknow05:56
surgylol learn something everytime i come here :)05:56
SlackRatfire up synaptic and see all the purdy packages waiting to be installed05:56
spitwisekillall programname/pid05:56
khaije1SlackRat: not an adept fan?05:56
DjVaipi dont have synaptic05:56
SlackRati use it when it tells me there are updates05:56
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SlackRatbut apt get is faster05:56
surgykhaije1: the more i use it the more i hate it, only runs every third time i try05:57
SlackRatsudo apt-get install synaptic05:57
surgyi have gotten used to apt-cache search05:57
khaije1surgy: wow, since edgy i've been very pleased, just wondering05:57
SlackRataltho ive never seen an ubuntu without synaptic before05:57
DjVaipsays no installation canadite05:58
surgyslackrat kubuntu doesnt have synaptic by defualt..... i think05:58
SlackRatmaybe, maybe its the old ones.....that had it05:58
SlackRatDj, did you update your apt-get?05:58
UbUnTuNeWbIeis there a way to make my wireless card active when i boot instead of having to sudo depmod -a and then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper to get it to work?05:58
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surgydjvaip: forget about synaptic thats just confusing you, use adept till you learn more05:58
DjVaipthat dosent even load05:59
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DjVaipok surgy its loaded yay05:59
=== khaije1 doesn't trust either as a replacement for apt-get :-)
SlackRatvery true06:00
surgydjvaip: gratzs just use the search bar there to find what you want06:00
SlackRatbut synaptic is fun to browse thru06:00
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surgyok im off again06:00
surgyseeya peeeps06:00
UbUnTuNeWbIeis there a way to make my wireless card active when i boot instead of having to sudo depmod -a and then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper to get it to work?06:00
=== cpk1 doesnt trust apt-get and uses aptitude instead
SlackRatbut his apt-get doesnt seem to stat any packages so far06:00
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SlackRatthats just being fanatic cp06:00
cpk1aptitude really can do alot more cooler things06:00
SlackRat:-P06:00
Kite_DHslack?06:01
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SlackRatisnt debian tending to phase that out tho?06:01
DjVaipok adept is up neeed help to get easyubuntu now06:01
cpk1UbUnTuNeWbIe: yes06:01
Kite_DHim searching something like "sudo apt-get install libpng libpng-dev"06:01
SlackRatjesus h christ on a bicycle06:01
Kite_DHbut it says it doesnt find the package06:01
Kite_DHlol o.o sry06:01
cpk1UbUnTuNeWbIe: add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules06:01
SlackRatuse a browser, download ....lol........easyubuntu when you find the site on google06:01
SlackRatits not supported by ubuntu06:01
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SlackRatits got its own page06:02
Kite_DHare you talking to me slack?06:02
UbUnTuNeWbIecpk1 how would i add it im still new to linux06:02
SlackRatwhich tells you how to dl and install easy ubuntu06:02
khaije1Kite_DH: when you're not sure searching is a good idea 'apt-cache search lib png' for example06:02
Kite_DHok06:02
cpk1UbUnTuNeWbIe: in a konsole type kdesu kate /etc/modules06:02
UbUnTuNeWbIeany help is gr8ly appreciated06:02
cpk1how about aptitude search libpng06:03
SlackRatfanatic06:03
SlackRatlol06:03
cpk1aptitude is way more advanced06:03
SlackRati like dselect even more06:03
SlackRatand dpkg06:03
spitwiseor apt-cache search lib | grep 'png'06:03
khaije1hehe06:03
SlackRatbut i reallly love compiling it all from source06:03
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jmichaelxi have never understood the diff between apt-get and aptitude. i need to read up on that. i have one PC with Mepis on it, and noticed the other day that it doesn't have aptitude06:04
SlackRatand watching the babble on my screen for three hours to install emacs06:04
UbUnTuNeWbIeok and i just type ndiswrapper in the list?06:04
cpk1UbUnTuNeWbIe: yup on its own line06:04
UbUnTuNeWbIefantastic thank you very much06:04
SlackRattheyre closely related.....id have to go back to the books to see the history of how they came about and interact06:04
cpk1jmichaelx: they both use apt but aptitude has a "memory" among other things06:04
DjVaipy wont adept let me install easyubnutu or find it06:05
khaije1my computer doesn't use ones and zero's it uses heiroglyphics internally, apt-get armegeddon !!!06:05
jmichaelxcpk1: interesting06:05
SlackRateasy ubuntu is NOT an ubuntu repo package, its not supported.......06:05
SlackRatgoogle it06:05
SlackRatgo there06:05
SlackRatdownload it06:05
Kite_DHkhaije1: what does this mean-> Error: X11 support required for GUI compilation.06:05
SlackRatand install it06:05
cpk1jmichaelx: for instance I just found out the other day that you can purge every thing that you have uninstalled with aptitude by doing aptitude puge ~C06:05
UbUnTuNeWbIecpk1 ok thanks again goin to reboot to see if it works06:05
jmichaelxcpk1: that is awesome06:06
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cpk1DjVaip: why do you want easyubuntu in the first place?06:06
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jrattnerAnyone know how to use the Water effect in beryl06:06
SlackRatto get all his codecs06:06
khaije1Kite_DH: not 100% sure, could be that you need the gui dev libs... ?06:06
cpk1!codecs06:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:06
DjVaipwell i want to get y codecs and install firefoxx06:06
Kite_DHkhaije1: i got them06:06
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khaije1Kite_DH: whats the app?06:06
cpk1firefox is in the repos06:06
SlackRatso is synaptic06:07
DjVaipcpk1: its dosent let me get it06:07
DjVaipdoesnt let me get ethoeir06:07
SlackRati dont think he updated his apt-get06:07
Kite_DHkhaije1: i think its libpng12-dev06:07
cpk1DjVaip: what doesnt let you get what?06:07
SlackRatdid you sudo apt-get update?06:07
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cpk1!firefox06:07
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ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins06:07
DjVaipstupid thing i am using Kubuntu06:07
donaldhey everybody, i need some help. anybody willing to give me some?06:07
khaije1Kite_DH: i'm a little confuse, what app are you compiling?06:07
SlackRatDj, did you sudo apt-get update????????????????06:08
khaije1!help06:08
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:08
cpk1DjVaip: do you have edgy?06:08
SlackRatubotu, theres a lot you dont know, bleh06:08
DjVaipif i was using ubuntu id be in the irc lol06:08
SlackRatubotu just im'ed me, lmao06:08
Kite_DHkhaije1: mplayer06:08
cpk1mplayer is in the repos06:09
khaije1Kite_DH: are you aware you can get it from the repos?06:09
Kite_DHkhaije1: what do you mean?06:09
DjVaipthis is gay06:09
SlackRatyou are using ubuntu, with a kde desktop06:09
cpk1!mplayer | Kite_DH06:09
donaldI am having a problem with getting my modem to work.06:09
ubotuKite_DH: mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile06:09
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.06:09
khaije1Kite_DH: you can have the program and everything it needs to worl properly installed in an automated way06:10
DjVaipiam using06:10
DjVaipKBUNTU06:10
cpk1DjVaip: are you on edgy?06:10
Kite_DHkhaije1: im trying to upgrade it rightnow06:10
Kite_DHkhaije1: can u help me with that06:10
SlackRatwhich is ubuntu with a kde desktop, d'uh06:10
khaije1Kite_DH: it's usually *alot* easier, safer, and more convenient06:10
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DjVaip6.06 LTS06:10
Kite_DHkhaije1: upgrade my MPlayer 1.0pre8 to 1.0rc106:10
Kite_DHkhaije1: how?06:10
SlackRatgood, thats stable.....have ou bothered to sudo apt-get update yet??06:10
DjVaipyes i did06:11
khaije1Kite_DH: are you familiar w/ the idea of package management?06:11
SlackRatnow apt-get synaptic or firefox06:11
DjVaipand it come up with this06:11
Kite_DHkhaije1: im still newbt06:11
SlackRatsee what happens06:11
Kite_DHkhaije1: newb*06:11
DjVaipFetched 2B in 4s (0B/s) Reading package lists... Done06:11
SlackRatok, youre up to date with the repos06:11
SlackRatnow 'sudo apt-get install synaptic06:11
cpk1no, 2 bytes is not upto date with repos06:12
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SlackRatoh......well it said done06:12
cpk1DjVaip: how much output do you get when you type cat /etc/apt/sources.list06:12
khaije1Kite_DH: thats cool, you should know that one of the nicest thing about ubuntu is that installing and removing programs is incredibly easy, in most cases you only need to click a few buttons and it will find it install and configure the app for you06:12
UbUnTuNeWbIecpk1 you are a bonafied genius06:12
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SlackRatthe doctor is in06:12
Kite_DHkhaije1: yes, i found that...but the problem is that i dont have the idea of what to install and what to not install =)06:13
UbUnTuNeWbIethank you again ive been rackin my brain for an hour tryin to figure this out thanks aain06:13
SlackRatinstall what you need as you go06:13
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DjVaipabout 45- 55 lines06:13
khaije1Kite_DH: well tell me this...is there a particular reason you wanted to compile it or do you just want a recent version of that program?06:13
SlackRatlook thru the package repos, read pkg descriptions06:13
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khaije1Kite_DH:  see SlackRat's comment ^^06:14
Kite_DHkhaije1: ok...its like this: i went to #mplayer to ask how to get embed WMV steams running in my mozilla firefox webbrowser06:14
cpk1DjVaip: and they arent commented out?06:14
Kite_DHkhaije1: they told me to do this and that06:14
Kite_DHkhaije1: then we got at least a vid running06:14
Kite_DHkhaije1: and now they tell me to upgrade my playerversion06:14
DjVaipfirst one is commented out and so is the last one06:14
cpk1DjVaip: also before i forget here is how to get the newest firefox http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/firefox06:14
Kite_DHkhaije1: i asked how, they said to download something like a source06:14
Kite_DHkhaije1: then they sent me here..and thats where i am now06:15
Kite_DHkhaije1: and now they tell me to run : sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer06:15
Kite_DHkhaije1: and my terminal says that it cant find a sourcpackage for mplayer06:16
khaije1Kite_DH: ok, as far as i know there are some version of wmv that won't play on linux no matter what you do06:16
khaije1is that right SlackRat?06:16
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Kite_DHkhaije1: i just want to watch pr0n :(06:16
khaije1heheh06:17
Kite_DHlawl06:17
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fanscore!fr06:18
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:18
Kite_DHkhaije1: first they say i need the new version of it, from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ but i dont know hot to install it06:18
Kite_DH!de06:18
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:18
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SolidSourcefor large collections of music, whats better than amarok...?06:18
Kite_DHwow06:18
Kite_DHhmm, they're probably sleeping rightnow lol06:18
khaije1Kite_DH:  i'm not 100% sure but i would probably check a few things first, there is probably an easier way06:18
SlackRatmplayer version 2:0.99 ?06:19
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SolidSourcemplayer...sucks06:19
Kite_DHupgrade my MPlayer 1.0pre8 to 1.0rc106:19
khaije1Kite_DH: are you using ubuntu?06:19
Kite_DHis there another way to watch embed videos in firefox?06:19
Kite_DHi use edgy06:19
jmichaelxmplayer is good if you have the right version running06:19
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SlackRat2.0.9 is in my repos06:20
SolidSourceI have the latest mplayer....it still sucks, has no features and hangs a lot06:20
SlackRaton dapper06:20
khaije1Kite_DH:  try the vlc plugin, 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc vlc-plugin-alsa'06:20
SlackRatyeah, prefer vlc myself for problem media06:20
Kite_DHi got VLC ,yes06:20
Kite_DHso i should uninstall mplay?06:21
Kite_DHer06:21
donaldSomebody please help. I am using a Conexant modem and I am using greatdialup.com for free dialup, and I have the dialup number, user ID, and password. I am having troubles with my modem.06:21
jmichaelxit is strange... i have kubuntu edgy installed on 2 desktops and one laptop. on the laptop, embedded videos play just fine in firefox.... on the 2 desktops, howver, i had to configure the videos to play in a separate window to get them to work06:21
Kite_DHmplayer sux somehow06:21
jmichaelxi don't know what the difference was06:21
SlackRatno, i tend to keep a few media players cause they all run into probs with certain formata06:21
khaije1Kite_DH: i'm not certain, but that would be the first thing i'd try, bear in mind though i don't think there are any ways to play recent versions of wmv06:21
SlackRatfriggen DRM06:21
donaldCan somebody help me with setting up my Conexant modem?06:21
jmichaelxno, you can play almost all .wmv files06:22
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khaije1SlackRat: drm really is a pain isn't it06:22
SlackRatmore than that, its an invasion of civil liberty06:22
jmichaelxDRM is what sucks, but i think at least some forms of DRM may be coming to linux soon....06:23
khaije1it's hard to explain to someone they can't watch their *ahem* movies because of some corporation06:23
SlackRatfriends have trouble in other countries if they want to bring a dvd when they visit06:23
SlackRatwhich leads to more piracy, not less06:23
Kite_DHkhaije1: not even with VLC?06:23
SolidSourceno one has anything for huge collections of music....amarok has issues with keeping the database udated06:23
jmichaelxbut you can play most .wmv videos in linux. i do it all  the time in firefox06:23
Kite_DHjmichaelx: maybe u can help me then06:23
khaije1Kite_DH: that is the latest i've heard, it may have changed i haven't checked in at least 6 months06:24
jmichaelxSolidSource: you just need to rescan your collection occasionally... it's not a big deal06:24
SlackRatjmichael, what do you mean coming to linux soon?06:24
SolidSourcejmichaelx: I know it works...it hangs and stalls the program trying to scan my collection06:24
Kite_DHkhaije1: thats what it says when i want to watch a stream http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2070/bildschirmphoto5it3.jpg06:25
Kite_DHflashplayer works tho06:25
Kite_DH<_<...sry for the adult gfx06:26
Kite_DHlol06:26
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bkudriai need an app to draw directed graphs, with labelled nodes and connections.  can anyone recommend anything?06:26
SolidSourcejmichaelx: amarok just can't handle my size of music collection06:26
donaldCan somebody help me with my Conexant modem?06:27
jarnSolidSource: How big is your collection?06:27
SlackRatmy my....goergous carmen is versatile06:27
SolidSourcejmichaelx: a few hundred GBs06:27
Kite_DHjmichaelx: can you help me fix that?--> http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2070/bildschirmphoto5it3.jpg06:27
SlackRatdont do it, its smut!06:28
SlackRatlmao06:28
Kite_DHlawl06:28
Kite_DH<_<06:28
Kite_DHxD06:28
jarnSlackRat: How many songs do you have?06:28
SlackRaton this box, maybe a couple gigabytes06:28
jarnHow many, not how big.06:28
SlackRatdidnt count em06:29
khaije1i use amarok w/ about 50GB06:29
jarnAmarok tells you.06:29
SlackRati dont load playlists06:29
jarnAh.06:29
Kite_DH=/...i want streams now *cries*06:29
SlackRati play entire albums06:29
khaije1listen to it SlackRat, it's talking to you06:29
SlackRatso i just click on the album and let amarok do its thing06:29
SlackRatwhat it is talking to me?06:29
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snaxhi06:30
khaije1meh, amarok :-)06:30
jarnI just have all my albums in my playlist.06:30
snaxi have an Nvidia PCI card. i just purchased it.06:30
snaxwill kubuntu recognize it?06:30
snaxupon installation.06:30
SlackRatshould06:30
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jmichaelxKite_DH: your problem in the pic you posted i think is that you need to UNinstall the vlc plugin06:30
snaxok cool06:30
SlackRatthe grand finale of abbey road06:30
adydas__u still want the drivers install i belive06:30
snaxbecuase debian is an asshole when it comes to graphics cards.06:30
jmichaelxKite_DH: you can keep VLC, but not the browser plugin06:31
nixternal!language06:31
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:31
SlackRatand renameing firefox iceweasel06:31
snaxsorry06:31
snaxwill kubuntu install drivers for me?06:31
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SlackRatdebian is off topic?06:32
SlackRator was it the other word.....06:32
snaxi know. but im just saying. im going to kubuntu becuase debian is older than dirt06:32
nixternalSlackRat: yes, since this is a the Kubuntu support channel06:32
Kite_DHjmichaelx: hmm...06:32
nixternalerr, I can spell06:32
snaxbut if kubuntu doesent accomplish what i want, why bother migrating.06:32
Kite_DHjmichaelx: so i need to uninstall the mozilla-plugin-vlc ?06:33
jmichaelxKite_DH: yes06:33
Kite_DHjmichaelx: or vlc-plugin-alsa06:33
Kite_DHboth?06:33
SlackRattotally ignoring kubuntus debian underpinnings and how they differ from kubuntu?06:33
jmichaelxKite_DH: just the mozilla one06:33
adydas__snax: This is what i was told and used to install my NV drivers06:33
Kite_DHjmichaelx: aight, its gone06:33
adydas__apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-source-2.6.1706:33
adydas__hope it helps06:33
snaxthanx pal  :P06:34
jmichaelxKite_DH: i am not saying that your video will work, but it should no longer say 'no video'06:34
snaxi just got done burning the alternate CD06:34
adydas__snax: once thats done edit the x11 conf and chanve nv to nvidia06:34
Kite_DHjmichaelx: thats true, now it says i need a plugin06:34
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adydas__worked fine for me06:34
snaxchange nv to nvidia ehh?  will do.06:34
jmichaelxKite_DH: have you installed the mplayer plugin?06:35
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Kite_DHjmichaelx: no, i dont have mplayer06:35
jmichaelxKite_DH: you need the mozilla mplayer plugin06:35
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Kite_DHjmichaelx: ok wait06:35
SlackRatso where did Dj go?06:35
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Kite_DHjmichaelx: ok, its installed06:35
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whiz2_Does anyone know if a full hard drive would prevent me from being able to login to KDe?06:36
whiz2_KDE06:36
jmichaelxKite_DH: try it again06:36
snaxadydas__  all fields with the value of nv?  if all fields i'll use sed to do that06:36
Kite_DHjmichaelx: seccond please06:36
snaxbeing  set 's/ nv / nvidia/'06:36
adydas__snax: just the drivers part06:36
snaxoh drivers.06:36
snaxok06:36
snaxthanx guys06:36
SlackRatwell a completely full hard drive might be problematic......nix systems produce lgos and stuff, if its running out of room.......06:37
Kite_DHjmichaelx: it says that it plays, but theres no video, only audio06:37
whiz2_does anyone know how to find out how much free space is left on the linux system drive from a command line?06:37
Kite_DHjmichaelx: now06:37
Kite_DHjmichaelx: wow06:37
jmichaelxKite_DH: hmm...06:37
cpk1iirc a user cant fill up a hard drive06:37
adydas__whiz2_: df06:37
SlackRatdf06:37
jmichaelxKite_DH: did you restart firefox?06:37
SlackRatdiskfree06:37
cpk1whiz2_: df -h to get an output you can read easier06:37
SlackRaton command line06:37
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Kite_DHjmichaelx: theres only video in fullscreen06:38
whiz2_oh boy... that's the issue06:38
SlackRator kdiskfree under utilities06:38
whiz2_it's full... ty06:38
jmichaelxKite_DH: hmm... well at least you have video now :-D06:38
Kite_DHjmichaelx: hmm :(06:38
jmichaelxKite_DH: maybe if you reboot, it will be fixed, not sure06:38
Kite_DHjmichaelx: wait, im gonna reboot then06:39
jmichaelxich weiss nur dass ich gleich ins bett gehn muss06:39
jmichaelxoops06:39
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khaije1jmichaelx: so mplayer is superior to vlc in this regard?06:40
jmichaelxkhaije1: for embedded video in firefox, definitely06:41
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pirowhiz2_: df -TH06:41
jmichaelxas a stand alone player, VLC is great, but not in FF06:41
pirowhiz2_: df -Th06:41
SlackRattrue06:41
snaxsay a prayer for me.06:41
Kite_DHjmichaelx: wth...everything is reseted06:41
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Kite_DHjmichaelx: like...my visual style06:41
khaije1do you know if mplayer uses a different wmv codec than the other players?06:41
jmichaelxKite_DH: i have no idea what would have effected all of tha06:41
jmichaelxthat*06:41
jmichaelxkhaije1: i don't think so06:42
khaije1jmichaelx: cool, i understand now06:42
Kite_DHjmichaelx: but i got video now lol06:42
jmichaelxit has been trickier to get embedded video working in edgy than it was in dapper. i am not sure why... but you CAN get it to work in edgy06:42
Kite_DHjmichaelx: where the fuck are my files gone??06:43
jmichaelxKite_DH: AWESOME06:43
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jmichaelxKite_DH: i don't know, but installing mplayer will not lose your files :-P06:43
cpk1i have had 0 problems with embedded video06:43
whiz2_oh my i hope I haven't lost this drive...06:44
jmichaelxcpk1: i have kubuntu on 2 desktops and a laptop... the 2 desktops were horrible to get embedded video working... the laptop worked with no problem. i am still confused as to why the difference06:45
SlackRatdelete as much old junk as you can afford06:45
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cpk1whiz2_: iirc root should always reserve some space so a user cant fill it up so much its unusable06:45
whiz2_i told me to run dpkg --config -a06:45
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whiz2_configure06:45
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whiz2_what does that mean?06:45
cpk1it will configure any packages you have installed but havent finished configuring06:45
whiz2_oh06:45
cpk1ie uncompleted installations06:45
jmichaelxwhiz2_: just do it....it will finish depackaging06:45
whiz2_could  that cause aproblem logging into KDE, or X if they are not configured?06:46
SlackRatit straightens out your apt utilities, you stopped something in the middle06:46
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whiz2_I can't start either06:46
SlackRat<shrugs>06:46
whiz2_heh06:46
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jmichaelxwhiz2_: try it and see06:46
whiz2_I'm stil kinda new at this whole linux idea06:46
Kite_DHjmichaelx: thx, everythign is normaly again and i can play streams06:46
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SlackRatyou can run it from console before starting x up06:47
jmichaelxKite_DH: awesome06:47
whiz2_a friendof mine has been helping me out remotely all day06:47
Kite_DHjmichaelx: only thing that is annoying is, that it doesnt have a volume control ...especially for pr0n06:47
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SlackRatdoncha just hate loud porn .....06:47
jmichaelxKite_DH: yeah, you just have to use your volume control in your panel06:47
whiz2_lol06:47
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Kite_DHSlackRat: indeed06:48
whiz2_it seems to be reorganizing everything on my hard drive.. stuff i already had configured06:48
SlackRatheh06:48
jmichaelx*does not condone pr0n06:48
SolidSourceanyone try using Banshee? mine always stalls when loading audio06:48
cpk1dunno about firefox but in conquerer the xine/mplayer plugin has volume control06:48
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jmichaelxcpk1: can you watch embedded video in konqueror?06:48
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crystufer2000Yo. I finally got my grub set up the way I want it. Now how do I make it the default bootloader?06:49
cpk1jmichaelx: yup06:49
whiz2_so far i have succeeded with one computer06:49
SlackRatwhats the current default bootloader06:49
jmichaelxcpk1: i have looked for documentation on how to accomplish that, and did not find anything06:49
crystufer2000ntldr06:49
SlackRatick06:50
crystufer2000I know.06:50
crystufer2000I'm gonna set the timeout in windows to 006:50
SlackRatxp on first partiton, ubuntu second?06:50
jmichaelxcpk1: i would use konqueror more if i could get flash and mplayer to work with it06:50
crystufer2000xp hd0,106:50
SlackRatreinstall grub onto the mbr06:50
cpk1jmichaelx: configure konq > plugins click scan for new plugins06:50
crystufer2000ubuntu hd1,106:50
SlackRatit will see windows , override and take over06:50
jmichaelxcpk1: will do right now06:50
SlackRatwait, two disks?06:50
crystufer2000Yep.06:50
crystufer2000Well, 306:51
SlackRatah, check with someon running two disks then, i dont06:51
whiz2_ok now to reboot the server to see if it will let me login06:51
khaije1konqueror still doesn't support google calandar among other things06:51
whiz2_Linux is fun06:51
khaije1it's better in some ways and worse in others06:51
SlackRatand tasty too!06:51
whiz2_why do you say that?06:51
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whiz2_oh06:52
SlackRatwho, say what?06:52
whiz2_nevermind06:52
SlackRatheh06:52
Kite_DHlawl06:52
Kite_DHxDD...why do you say that06:52
whiz2_i thought you were talking about Linux lol06:52
Kite_DHhe was frustrated for a moment06:52
piroone thing: google knows everything and has access to a lot, i draw the line at a company knowing where I am anytime of the day :>06:52
whiz2_lol06:52
whiz2_google knows where you are 24/7?06:53
SlackRatyes, google is our puppetmaster06:53
SlackRatsigh06:53
pirofollow into their plan with google calendar and I don't see why not06:53
whiz2_heh06:53
whiz2_i have google desktop installed on my laptop06:53
piroand metallica is the master of puppets, what does that say about our current state06:53
SlackRatno, thats just a song....google made them write it06:54
whiz2_grrr... KDE still throws me back to the login screen06:54
SlackRatthey were preparing us subliminally for the takeover06:54
ForgeAusgoogle desktop?06:54
Kite_DHSlackRat: when is feisty herd going to be released06:54
jmichaelxcpk1: thank you much...i have *some* embedded video working in konqueror now :-D06:54
crystufer2000join #grub06:54
crystufer2000...06:54
SlackRatdunno, check the forums i saw some news today but didnt read the story06:54
crystufer2000sorry06:54
crystufer2000I forgot the /06:55
whiz2_Google desktop preinstalled on my Vista machine06:55
Kite_DHvista...06:55
whiz2_vista is pretty06:55
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ForgeAusargh vista!06:55
ForgeAuspretty expensive yeah06:55
SlackRatit could break microsoft tho06:55
ForgeAusI think it will... in time06:56
jmichaelxyou can make kubuntu prettier than vista06:56
SlackRathow many people are just gonna upgrade their system for it?06:56
ForgeAusjmichaelx you can make either as pretty as you want06:56
ForgeAusaesthetics aren't an issue really06:56
jmichaelxkubuntu+beryl=way prettier than vista06:56
SlackRatbleh, xgml and all the three d eye candy was out last year on linux06:56
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whiz2_I bought the laptop, and it happened to have Vista preinstaled on it06:56
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whiz2_pretty secure06:57
SlackRatnow MS is gonna have a 'shell' and a real admin account06:57
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SlackRatdeja vu06:57
whiz2_lol06:57
pirow.e, i saw a black grey haired women today at office depot buy two copies of xp home, and I thought to myself *gag*06:57
whiz2_they don't have a shell login06:57
whiz2_but they do have an admin account06:57
Kite_DHtrue06:57
SlackRattheyre claiming they have a new shell06:57
ForgeAuspowershell?06:57
ForgeAus(ala monad)06:57
khaije1aka gonad06:57
Kite_DHkubuntu can be much more prettier than vista06:57
whiz2_explorer.exe is still thier shell06:57
SlackRatnot the command line thingy hidden in xp06:57
ForgeAusrofl kh06:57
ForgeAusthats their gui shell06:58
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crystufer2000I use blackbox on windows.06:58
SlackRatcommand.exe or whatever it is06:58
ForgeAuscrystufer? how?06:58
SlackRati emulate debian on windows, runs faster06:58
Jucato!offtopic06:58
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:58
ForgeAusI didn't know there was blackbox for windows!06:58
Jucato(as pointed out by nixternal)06:58
crystufer2000bb4win06:58
tarelerulzHow is blackbox on windows06:58
nixternal:)06:58
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jmichaelxthey are developing KDE for windows lol06:58
tarelerulzthere are bunch of shells for windows06:58
ForgeAusslackrat? what emulator? vmware?06:58
crystufer2000www.bb4win.org (Get away from that stupid explorer.exe.06:58
ForgeAuscolinux?06:58
whiz2_cmd.exe is the command line shell for vista06:59
whiz2_same as XP06:59
ForgeAusyes they are jmichaelX and for MacOSX06:59
cpk1thats not real shell =\06:59
crystufer2000what, bb4win?06:59
crystufer2000It's real!06:59
ForgeAusblackbox for windows06:59
ForgeAusapparently06:59
ForgeAusI kinda find Fluxbox/blackbox interesting06:59
crystufer2000It's so much prettier than explorer.07:00
Kite_DHi got a question that sounds stupid07:00
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cpk1no cmd.exe isnt a real shell07:00
JucatoPlease take this conversation to #kubuntu-offtopic07:00
pirodoes vista still have 4 x svchost.exe?07:00
ForgeAushas a professional kinda style to it, but not so configurable...07:00
MobsterLobsteris there a way to retive my password07:00
tarelerulzhave any of you used ndiswrapper ?07:00
crystufer2000Jucato: Kay. Sorry.07:00
nixternaltarelerulz: I use ndiswrapper07:00
ForgeAusI have ndiswrapper but havn't actually used it no07:00
Kite_DHdo i have to worry about spyware, trojans, virus' or hackers on kubuntu 6.10???....07:00
Kite_DHi know this sounds stupid07:00
ForgeAusunless something's used it for me in the background or something07:00
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nixternalKite_DH: yes07:00
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nixternalKite_DH: j/k :)07:01
cpk1i've used ndiswrapper07:01
cpk1just ask your question07:01
Kite_DHnixternal: and why not?07:01
Kite_DHcpk1: i've asked it07:01
Kite_DHdo i have to worry about spyware, trojans, virus' or hackers on kubuntu 6.10???....07:01
nixternaltrojans not really, spyware not so, virus' they are there, hackers don't hack nothing unimportant07:01
cpk1Kite_DH: not you07:01
MobsterLobsterhow easy is it for a hacker to gain access to a *nix box?07:01
tarelerulzThe reason I ask is I am trying to install it ,but having no luck07:01
ForgeAusKite mostly not07:01
ubuntu_Kite_DH: because kubuntu rocks07:01
cpk1tarelerulz: its in the repos07:01
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ForgeAusif you have ie under wine you might want to07:01
ubuntu_and it doesnt use that GNOME stuff that nixternal hates07:02
crystufer2000How do I get grub into my mbr?07:02
ForgeAusbut otherwise linux is mostly virus/spyware-free07:02
nixternalheh07:02
tarelerulzthanks07:02
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SlackRatits possible , but nix isnt usually as big a target for hacker exploits , and two, to activate many of those , root has to actually activate it, not just a user07:02
whiz2_"This APT has Supoer Cow powers!" nice...07:02
ForgeAus(even if users GET a virus it doesn't do much because the software doesn't have root permissions)07:02
ChaosEddieman nixternal people need to stop ghosting me07:02
whiz2_Super*07:02
crystufer2000cows?>07:02
ForgeAussupercow?07:02
SlackRatwhiz2, know what that means?07:02
whiz2_hehe07:02
Kite_DHthe only app i need in wine is adobe PS07:02
Kite_DH:)07:02
whiz2_not a clue07:02
cpk1tarelerulz: are you sure you need ndiswrapper?07:03
ChaosEddiethis time is was RJ07:03
SlackRatsudo-apt get moo07:03
MobsterLobsteri have heard Grub and vista dont get along. is this true? (dont bother having a go at vista, i dont use it either)07:03
tarelerulzI don't know CPk107:03
Jucato!offtopic | SlackRat07:03
ubotuSlackRat: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:03
tarelerulzmy wireless card dose not seem to work07:03
whiz2_cute07:03
ForgeAusrofl... have you been mood today?07:04
tarelerulzI was at the library07:04
tarelerulzand it did not connect07:04
SlackRatapt-get is offtopic???07:04
whiz2_I'm not installing any bootloader on my laptop07:04
ForgeAusbtw its apt-get07:04
JucatoSlackRat: oops sorry07:04
ForgeAusSlackrat its kubuntu apt-get is NOT offtopic07:04
Kite_DHwhat can KDEToys do?07:04
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tarelerulzI did the auto  the dcp or what ever it is called and nothing worked07:04
cpk1tarelerulz: lshw and find your card and find out what it says about the businfo07:04
jmichaelxi am disappointed that the last kernel that came down in the updates does not support my wireless card as well as the last one did :-(07:04
whiz2_well i'm having an issue...07:04
Kite_DHis it something like superkaramba?07:04
ForgeAusnothingm uch its mosly a clock and some kids game-like apps07:04
ForgeAusand prolly an X-eyes like thing07:05
JucatoKite_DH: you can use the package manager to read a description07:05
SlackRatno problem, cow powers are on kubuntu07:05
ForgeAus(eyes that follow the mouse cursor)07:05
SlackRatheh07:05
jmichaelxi am still booting into 2.6.17-1007:05
whiz2_KDE keeps throwing meback out to the login screen whenever I enter my account name, and pasword07:05
Kite_DHok jucato07:05
cpk1dhclient only works if they are serving ips07:05
ForgeAusin adept you can click on details and it tells you what packages it installs07:05
ForgeAus(or replaces or requires)07:05
whiz2_nice, but I can't get into adept if I can't get into KDE. :-p07:05
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ForgeAuswhiz run kdm as root07:06
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cpk1whiz2_: just use aptitude07:06
whiz2_from a shell?07:06
whiz2_aptitude?07:06
cpk1to install stuff if you need to07:06
Jucatowhiz2_: apt-get or aptitude are command line package managers07:06
whiz2_i'm trying to get to my KDE desktop07:06
ForgeAuswait your in kdm already07:07
ForgeAusthats the login screen07:07
ForgeAusit keeps booting you back to login screen hmmm...07:07
ForgeAusok then do you have much room on ur HDD?07:07
whiz2_dunno07:07
whiz2_how do I find out?07:07
MobsterLobsteris anybody using the Kubuntu for windows program?07:07
ForgeAuskubuntu for windows?07:07
ForgeAuswhat?07:07
tarelerulzso what am I looking for  on my card07:08
JucatoI think he means the FOSS apps for Windows on the Kubuntu Desktop CD07:08
whiz2_ForgeAus: i dunno how nmuch HDD space I have. how do I find out?07:08
adydasdf -h07:08
nixternalJucato: that .exe file that has been making it rounds on sounder and the wiki07:09
MobsterLobsterthere is a project to make Ubuntu for windows. it makes Ubuntu a exe that can have packages installed. from what i read it makes like a psedo partition. then if you dont like it you just uninstall it07:09
ForgeAuslike scribe?07:09
SlackRatls /07:09
ForgeAussounds like PHATlinux to me07:09
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SlackRatsee whats there, and what you can remove07:09
whiz2_ok it says /dev/hda1 Size: 2.7g used 2.6g free: 0 usage 100% mounted on /07:09
tarelerulzthat ubuntu.exe is  good idea ,but it did not work for me07:09
adydasthen its full07:09
Jucatoah that one07:10
Jucatooh well...07:10
SlackRatwhats it do, install kubuntu inside windows space?07:10
tarelerulzit is beta for big time the  note on it of the dev people and like one normal user07:10
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whiz2_ok time to uninstal some un needed packages07:10
adydasSure is :p07:10
tarelerulzIt installs in the windows partitoin07:10
cpk1whiz2_: that is an incredibly small hdd... do you have a /home partition?07:10
SlackRatheh07:11
MobsterLobsterhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype07:11
adydasmust be a 10 year old hard drive07:11
MobsterLobsteri found the site07:11
tarelerulzso what am I looking for on my card cpk1 the wireless card07:11
ForgeAusslackrat what did you mean debian emulator before?07:11
Jucatobtw, it's not an official Kubuntu/Ubuntu project (yet?)07:11
cpk1tarelerulz: the businfo i suppose if oyu think it needs ndiswrapper07:12
MobsterLobsterok07:12
ForgeAuskubuntu.exe sounds much like vmware + kubuntu07:12
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MobsterLobsteri was wondering if anybody is/has used it. i cant touch linux for a few months but that just might let me07:12
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tarelerulzthis is what it says it is BCM4303 802.11b Wireless LAN Controller07:13
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rob__hello07:13
cpk1tarelerulz: thats not the businfo and its a bcm43xx card UGH07:13
whiz2_i'm removing all of the games from the linux box07:14
ForgeAushmmm XPressLinux?07:14
tarelerulzthat is command my bad07:14
whiz2_heh07:14
SlackRator like zipslack or puppy07:14
cpk1tarelerulz: ndiswrapper should work but you can also use native drivers if you read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%2907:14
MobsterLobstermmmm VMware that might be a good idea how uch ram will i need to have Kubuntu run smoothly on XP with VMware?07:14
ForgeAusnever heard of puppy... yet07:14
ForgeAusdunno mobster...07:14
rob__umm i am really new to linux (moving away from windows) and i need an ide c++ programming tool, but don't really know a good one. I like dev, but don't know how to get it working in linux. can anyone give a helping hand?07:15
whiz2_i need a bigger HDD for my linux machine07:15
ForgeAusworked great for me but I got 1 gig ram and 3 gig processor07:15
SlackRatmini distro,  sort of based on deb, installs its home partition in windows07:15
cpk1kde has an ide programming tool i think07:15
ForgeAuszipslack caused so many segmentation faults on my PC07:15
SlackRatgeany,anjuta, the kdevelop suite07:15
ForgeAusI gave up on it07:15
SlackRatyeah, i think its time is over, it s an old app07:15
ForgeAusit actually ran better in VMware than natively07:15
SlackRatheh. prolly would07:16
whiz2_wow removing the games freed up 50 MB lol07:16
ForgeAusbut neither of them are debian emulators07:16
rob__geany?07:16
SlackRatnow remove the pr0n07:16
MobsterLobsteri have a 3.2 ghz CPU but only 386 ram. my vid card and ram are the same 512 stick07:16
Kite_DHis there any other stuff for KDEToys??07:16
whiz2_lol there is no pr0n07:16
SlackRatgeany is a multi lang ide07:16
Kite_DH<_<07:16
whiz2_it's a tiny HDD07:16
SlackRataha07:16
whiz2_2.7GB07:16
SlackRatwow07:17
rob__friendly or more intermediate interface?07:17
whiz2_i need a bigger one07:17
SlackRati thought 4GB on a work comp was small07:17
MobsterLobsterthe reason i cant just partition and install is because linux and my wireless card dont get along07:17
SlackRatpretty simple and plain07:17
SlackRatanjuta is specifically c and c++ i think07:17
rob__kool, so which one of those is the more prefered07:17
SlackRatand is in the repso07:17
SlackRatrepos, but so is the kdev suite07:18
SlackRattry em out, to each his own07:18
ForgeAusxpress linux claims:07:18
Kite_DHForgeAus: how can i install those themese from KDE-looks.org??07:18
rob__i think i already have the kdev if its kdevelop suite07:18
ForgeAus    * XPressLinux is based on Kubuntu and uses the KDE desktop.07:18
ForgeAus    * WINE is pre-installed, so you can run many Windows applications.07:18
ForgeAus    * VLC Media Player lets you play most common audio and video files.07:18
ForgeAus    * Firefox is the default web browser, for maximum compatibility.07:18
ForgeAus    * Your Windows drive is automatically mounted and the WINE file manager provides a familiar desktop.07:18
ForgeAusKDE? it looks lige Gnome to me07:18
ForgeAus"those themes?"07:18
jmichaelxdoes anyone in here know what the best way is to get a broadcom wireless adapter working in edgy? in daper it worked great using fwcutter and the native drivers....in edgy, not working well at all07:18
SlackRattho, hardcore programmers tend to shy away from ides at the beginning07:18
SlackRatforms bad habits07:18
ForgeAusKite, to be honset I have no clue07:18
Kite_DHForgeAus: yes...there are themese for KDE 3.5- x07:18
Kite_DHok07:19
whiz2_I'm stripping Kubuntu of all non-essential software07:19
JucatoForgeAus: next time... pastebin07:19
whiz2_aptitude is my friend right now lol07:19
SlackRatcareful whiz07:19
SlackRatheh07:19
whiz2_i've removed all the games, andmail07:19
Jucatowhat you might think is non-essential, might actually be essential under the hood07:20
ForgeAusJucato for 5 lines?07:20
Kite_DHSlackRat: do you know how to install KDE themes?07:20
JucatoForgeAus: for more than 2 lines07:20
rob__heh im only starting oo in c++, so there is no need to shy away form ide for me just yet07:20
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Jucatospecially something that isn't really support related07:20
MobsterLobsterJmicheaelx from my experience broadcom wireless and linux dont get along so just a heads up07:20
SlackRatusually i just install the theme package07:20
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SlackRatand it shows up in kcontrol07:20
Jucato!changethemes | Kite_DH07:20
ubotuKite_DH: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu07:20
pirothanks for the reminder whiz, i got a new build last week and have yet to do that07:20
jmichaelxMobsterLobster: that is very true, but i had it working well in dapper...now it works, but disconnects off and on07:21
whiz2_i don't need anything for sound, cuz Kubuntu doesn't even support my sound hardware07:21
SlackRata quiet kde is not always a bad thing07:21
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whiz2_heh07:22
whiz2_mine is quiet, only because it doesn't recognize y sound hardware07:22
crimsunwhiz2_: what sound card?07:22
Jucatoalthough uninstalling arts might uninstall other KDE apps as well, as they depend on it when they were built07:22
whiz2_onboard crystal sound fusion07:22
Jucatoah! our resident sound expert :)07:22
rob__hmm don't know how to compile in kdev07:22
crimsunwhiz2_: more specifically, please07:23
whiz2_that's all i can tell you unles I drop to the bios07:23
crimsunthen drop to the bios, please07:23
whiz2_hang on. i can do that...07:23
Kite_DHJucato: thank you07:23
rob__do i need to use make?07:23
Jucatorob__: the "build-essential" package will install the compiler and basic utilities you need to compile stuff07:24
whiz2_slow computer... one moment please...07:24
Jucatorob__: but if you need to compile graphical apps like KDE apps, you would need some other things07:24
rob__im so new to linux that i feel stupid because i don't know what you mean by "build-essential' package07:25
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adydasrob__:  i think he means sudo apt-get install build-essential07:25
Jucatorob__: install "build-essential" from your package manager (apt-get or Adept)07:25
Jucato!build-essential | rob__07:25
rob__okay07:25
uboturob__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:25
whiz2_ok the BIOS doesn't report the actual hardware name07:25
whiz2_but I remembered that windows reported Crystal sond fusion, and crystal sound audio, and it can emulate SB pro07:26
whiz2_sound*07:26
crimsunwhiz2_: then I need either /full/ dmesg output or lspnp output07:26
whiz2_huh?07:26
rob__will take a look07:26
Jucatocrimsun: or kinfocenter? :)07:26
whiz2_Kubuntu sees no sound hardware whatsoever07:27
whiz2_windows isn't installed as a 2nd OS07:27
crimsunwhiz2_: it likely wouldn't, as you have isa sound hardware, which needs to be loaded manually.07:27
Jucatocrimsun: I learned a new command from one of the aggregated blogs in Planet Ubuntu. lshw :)07:27
whiz2_I'm not worried about the sound. I'm worried about getting back into my desktop07:27
crimsunthe fun part of course is figuring out whether it's snd-cs4231, snd-cs4232 or snd-cs423607:28
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rob__is it normal for kubuntu to keep probing /etc/vmware/vmnet1/dhcpd/dhcpd.conf everytime after doing an apt-get?07:28
whiz2_I have had Kubuntu on that PC for months without sound... why worry about it now?07:28
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whiz2_All i want to use the Kubuntu PC for is a web server anyway07:29
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SlackRatForge, the emulator i was referring to was vmware07:29
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crystufer2000Woot! Fixed my grub!07:29
ubuntuHi, i have a problem, when i start up my computer and login it starts x then immediattly shuts it down, i even tried loggin in to another tty and doing "startx" but it did the same thing, i even reconfigured x, does anyone know how to fix this so i can boot up?07:29
LaserJockwhiz2_: because other people with the same hardware might07:29
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LaserJockwhiz2_: and crimsun is the main guy taking care of sound in Ubuntu so he's interested in figuring it out07:30
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whiz2_I'm more worried about gettinginto it, and uninstalling packages I don't need07:30
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whiz2_ok can we get me logged in, and remove other stuff first?07:30
SlackRatgo to a tty and run dmesg | more07:30
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whiz2_then we have to reinstall sound software as i just removed it lol07:30
whiz2_ok07:30
SlackRatalso try kde, or startkde from the terminal07:30
pirohey is there a source somewhere on how to get your programs into a repository ? a guide of some sort07:31
adydasMemory Jog, gui software firewall control07:31
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SlackRatyes, a how to make a repo article , out there , somewhere07:31
whiz2_what amI looking for in dmesg?07:31
SlackRatif  anything is going wrong during boot up07:31
SlackRatand x starting etc07:32
SlackRatwarnings07:32
whiz2_i'm running TTY from a remote login07:32
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ubuntuHi, i have a problem, when i start up my computer and login it starts x then immediattly shuts it down, i even tried loggin in to another tty and doing "startx" but it did the same thing, i even reconfigured x, does anyone know how to fix this so i can boot up?07:32
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SlackRatubuntu, same advice, look at dmesg | more, so you can scan it slowly, also try kde (kdm?) or startkde07:33
whiz2_err... might help if I enable the sound hardware in the bios... one moment rebooting again...07:33
SlackRatsee what you get07:33
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SlackRatsounds like an xconfig problem, ubuntu07:33
ubuntuso in a tty type in "dmesg | more" ?07:33
whiz2_lol07:33
SlackRatyeah07:33
ubuntui reconfigured x07:33
ubuntuill also try start kde,07:34
whiz2_i get kicked back out to the bios lol07:34
whiz2_or to the curb...07:34
SlackRatyou may have made a mistake and have to try again, see what the dmesg says which is a record of your boot process07:34
ubuntuno, im positive i reconfig'ed right07:34
ubuntudone it a million times07:34
ubuntubut ill try that, brb07:34
SlackRatcant find x server, x already running warnings?07:34
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whiz2_well since I've cleared 52MB of space on my HDD i have yet to try loggin into the desktop07:34
whiz2_Imay give it a shot now07:35
whiz2_sound hardware enabled... reboot in progress...07:35
SlackRatbrb07:36
whiz2_if it helps to know... the Kubuntu PC is a slow 400 megahertz computer with onboard sound07:36
whiz2_e-machines07:36
whiz2_POS07:36
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whiz2_hehe07:37
Skullerhey guys....i was checking out drivers for my apc UPS in synaptic...i found three packages worth considering....one is a daemon, other is the 'main' software " Power managemnt and the last one is a CGI for it...which ones should i install?07:37
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whiz2_I didn't know you could use an APC on a Linux PC07:38
SlackRatgoogle them and see what the word is on them, then try one07:38
Skullerhmm...ok07:38
SlackRatyou know your system specs better than us07:38
akrushow to kill the process if kill -SIGKILL does not help? :x07:39
SlackRatksysguard07:39
whiz2_in dmesg what exactly am I looking for?07:39
whiz2_is this for sound, or is this to troubleshoot my login?07:39
SlackRatdid it not boot into kde?07:40
SlackRatx warnings atm07:40
whiz2_trying now07:40
whiz2_My desktop seems to be logging in now07:40
SlackRatxserver problems, maybe you ll see a sound card warning as well07:40
SlackRatprobably07:40
akrusSlackRat: not killing anyway x_X07:40
SlackRatcant kill the runaway with sysguard either? its just spawning more?07:41
akrusit's just not killing :)07:41
whiz2_ok I have a couple errors07:41
akruswith any of signals lol07:41
SlackRatreboot......start again07:41
akrusSIGKILL, SIGTERM, SIGQUIT07:41
akrusx_X07:41
SlackRatcheck to see its stopped07:41
akrus</3 rebooting07:41
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akrusit'll be lol07:41
akrusi've started it :)07:41
akrusit's vmware07:41
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SlackRatyeah, can you kill it?07:42
akrusbut it hanged and i had to close it... window closed, but the process is still here07:42
akrusi can't :)07:42
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SlackRatreboot07:42
SlackRator reset in vm language07:42
akrus:)07:42
akrus6881 ?        D<s   27:41 /usr/lib/vmware/bin-debug/vmware-vmx07:42
akrusanyway have to reboot i think :(07:43
akrusbrb07:43
whiz2_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6520/ <-- those are the errors07:43
SlackRatyeah, best process kill when all else fails07:43
whiz2_oh wow says it detected my sound card... PnP soundcard07:44
SlackRathmn, no idea what the devices are....did ou get into kde?07:44
Skullerhey guys..i dont understand much after reading thru in google about 'apcd', 'apcupsd' & 'apcups-cgi'....i just need the simple driver to get my UPS workin properly so it can shutdown my PC itself incase of a power failure07:44
SlackRatlooks like the sound card warnings07:45
tarelerulzthe native driver config did not work07:45
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tarelerulzit said one of the files was to old or new07:45
whiz2_I do have a sound card installed as well, but off hand can't remember whenther it's PCI, or ISA07:45
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snaxhi07:45
rob__i don't understand why the terminal says i dont have ./configure directory07:46
SlackRatdmesg gives pci warnings07:46
SlackRatare you in the kde gui?07:46
whiz2_ok07:46
snaxi just installed kubuntu alternate cd.  i have a PCI nvidia card.  when booting i can see the kubuntu logo and the progress bar.07:46
snaxbut after that my screen is black.07:46
rob__i tried in both the kde and konsole07:46
whiz2_yes I am, but I'm using TTY service froma remote computer for dmesg07:46
SlackRatwhy are you using the alt cd?07:46
snaxbut knoppix can boot fine.07:46
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SlackRatso kde is back now.....you can work on cleaaring more space and trying to configure the sound after that07:47
whiz2_yup07:47
crystufer2000How cum I can't enter the directory where my other drive is mounted?07:47
SlackRatprolly cause it was a xconfig problem, not a monitor problem07:47
SlackRatcry, did you try mounting as root via sudo?07:48
rob__where is the ./configure directory usually located?07:48
crystufer2000No. Why, should I?07:48
snaxis there a way i can do ---->  apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-source-2.6.17 from the live cd but have changes take place to the installation on hard drive ?07:48
whiz2_whilei'm loggedin, can you tell me how to make it so that a specific program starts whenever I turn on the computer? (I want it to run without me having to login, and I want it to run as my user)07:49
SlackRatits mounted  already?07:49
SlackRatwhat filesystem?07:49
crystufer2000ntfs07:49
crystufer2000I have to be root to get into.07:49
SlackRatntfs is a pita07:49
crystufer2000the folder, but I can see everything fine once in.07:49
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crystufer2000A what now?07:50
SlackRatuse nvidia drivers from the nvidia site, not the repos07:50
SlackRattheyre usually dummy pkgs07:50
SlackRatnvidia is proprietary07:50
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snaxwell i dont get a picture in the first place?07:51
snaxim in knoppix right now.07:51
ubuntui tried dmesg|more and got no errors and startkde returned "can't connect kdeinit"07:51
SlackRatyou ll install it via terminal without x, after you read the nvidia docs07:51
SlackRattry just 'kde'07:51
SlackRator 'kdm'07:51
snaxok, well how can i get into the terminal if my entire screen is black ?07:51
ubuntui did kdm07:51
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ubuntui was gunna but a new HD tommrow anyway, this 9gb isnt cutting it anymore07:52
crystufer2000alt f1 sometimes. Usually that means youre duffed. Snax07:52
ubuntuhow do i mount a hd on this live CD so i can backup07:52
snaxcrystufer2000: thanx.  i'll try alt F107:52
SlackRatah, not a good idea to install a driver from a live cd and install over it07:52
snax but what does duffed mean?07:52
snaxas in screwed ???07:52
crystufer2000snax good luck07:52
SlackRati think so07:52
crystufer2000snax yeah07:53
snaxaww. but how does knoppix work07:53
crystufer2000snax pixies.07:53
SlackRatoff a cd07:53
SlackRator ram if you have enough07:53
crystufer2000cd pixies07:53
ubuntuhow do i mount a harddrive07:53
snaxyea so what does the boot device have anyting to do wit it07:53
SlackRator pixies if you know black magic07:53
SlackRatits booting the kernel on the cd07:53
crystufer2000mwahahahahaha07:53
SlackRatheh07:54
snaxyea and i installed the kernel on the hard drive07:54
rob__this doesnt make any sense to me at all. i am looking in the usr/local directory, but there is no directory or file called configure07:54
adydasmount07:54
crystufer2000Black Mage Linux!!!!07:54
SlackRatyou installed what kernel on the hard drive?07:54
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snaxwhat ever come with kubuntu.07:54
crystufer2000hehe07:54
whiz2_do I need cups if I'm not sharing a printer?07:54
snaxi downloaded the latest kubuntu07:54
crystufer2000several.07:54
snaxoh.  perhalps i'll update it.07:54
cpk1snax: ctrl alt f1 will get you to tty107:54
SlackRatand youre running it live?07:54
snaxthanx.  i07:55
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SlackRatso nothing is installed till you install it07:55
snaxi'll update from there07:55
SlackRatrunning a live cd installs nothing07:55
snaxcpk1: thats what im supposed to do from there right?  from tty1 that is.07:55
SlackRattill you use the installer after it boots into a gui07:55
whiz2_SlackRat: do I need cups if I do not have a printer attached to the kubuntu PC?07:56
SlackRatneah07:56
whiz2_ok07:56
SlackRatbut someone will probably ask you to hook up your computer to their printer the day after you remove cups, lol07:56
SlackRatmurphy's law07:56
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cpk1snax: I have no clue what you need done, but you wanted to know how to ge to tty1 so i told you07:57
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crystufer2000grr. pastebin!07:57
crystufer2000!pastebin07:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:57
whiz2_and I guess I can get rid of DVD-RW tools since I don't have  DVD drive, or even a CD burner installed (Only a CD-ROM)07:58
hagabakaapt-index-watcher runs and uses up all CPU every few seconds, and it doesn't print anything in syslog even though it's run with --syslog. anyon know what's the problem?07:58
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crystufer2000http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/88416907:59
crystufer2000There. That's my fstab.07:59
rob__why does kubuntu insist on probing my network everytime i do an apt-get install <package>07:59
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crystufer2000Someone tell me how to make it so  my hda1 and hdb1 are accesible to all users?08:00
cpk1rob__: because it uses the intranets?08:01
rob__where did this vmware services come from anyway? im not even using windows08:01
hagabakadidn't you install it?08:01
hagabakait's not installed by default08:01
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crystufer2000Help me with my fstab anyone?08:01
rob__not that i remember. i just installed kubuntu with default settings08:01
crystufer2000http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/88416908:02
whiz2_do I need open office.ord stuff?08:02
whiz2_org*08:02
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cpk1whiz2_: you tell us08:02
ubuntuhi, im on a live cd....i mounted my harddrive and my "desktop" folder is locked, how can i view folder this?08:02
whiz2_what is openofice.org?08:02
whiz2_if it's like MS-OFFice, then no08:02
cpk1its a microsoft office clone08:02
whiz2_no08:02
SlackRatAn error occurred while loading http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/884169:08:02
hagabakait's not a clone08:02
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adydas__!firewall08:03
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).08:03
rob__its an open source office sorta like ms office?08:03
crystufer2000!fstab08:03
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions08:03
ismailhi all08:03
Jucato!openoffice08:03
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org08:03
Jucatowhiz2_: ^^^08:03
rob__how to remove this vmware thingy08:04
SlackRatgood to have since it can produce docs windoze users can read, it has an xp format option08:04
SlackRatamong others08:04
rob__or is it required for the system?08:04
Jucatorob__: what vmware thingy? vmware isn't required unless you want to run vmware :)08:04
SlackRatvmware where runnin what??08:05
hagabakadid you install kubuntu yourself? did you have anything on it before installing it?08:05
rob__i don't know. it keeps probing my net everytime after i do apt-get and complains about vmware and vmware-player08:05
adydas__how do you edit the ubuntu software firewall08:05
whiz2_now i'm removing all this stuff... once it's gone, that should free up a tremendous amount of disk space, then we can work on the sound. ;-)08:05
SlackRatyoure running vmware on kubuntu/08:05
fudgeyhey guys I have a bad proble08:06
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fudgeyproblem08:06
hagabakayou can just apt-get remove them then08:06
fudgeyI cant use sudo cuz it says invalid timestamp08:06
cpk1adydas__: iptables?08:06
fudgeyand I cant change the timestamp08:06
adydas__not by me, nothing by default?08:06
SlackRatproblem a skewed vmware network08:06
cpk1adydas__: huh?08:06
Jucato!timestamp08:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about timestamp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:06
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SlackRatremove vmware and try the package from the vmware site and see if that runs better08:06
Jucatobah..08:06
rob__it complains about unable to lock admin directory when i do apt-get remove08:06
fudgey=/08:06
SlackRathad lots of problems with vmware on kubuntu08:07
fudgeyI cant change the time cuz im not root08:07
cpk1rob__: try sudo aptitude remove vmware08:07
fudgeyand I cant access root cuz I cant change the password08:07
SlackRatfudgey             sudo -K08:07
fudgeycap K?08:07
Jucatoype08:07
fudgeyaw crap know wonder08:07
SlackRatkills the timestamp thats stoopping you08:07
Jucatoyep08:07
rob__i shouldnt need to do sudo since im in root mode already right?08:07
fudgeyawesome08:08
SlackRatwhat root mode?08:08
fudgeythanks08:08
SlackRatnp08:08
cpk1rob__: correct08:08
rob__well im using the root shell08:08
SlackRatit will usually happen when you fix your clock08:08
SlackRatfrom a wrong time08:08
cpk1rob__: you dont really need to be logged in as root though08:08
fudgeydoesnt work08:08
fudgeytimestamp too far in the future08:08
SlackRattry not to remain root after you finish what youre doing as root08:08
SlackRatyup, common problem, check the forums08:09
fudgeyaw08:09
SlackRatand google.....happens alot08:09
fudgeythat sucks08:09
rob__oh well appearantly apt and aptitude isnt the same08:09
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fudgeycuz if you dont have internet access08:09
fudgeyyou cant sync with the time08:09
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cpk1rob__: you mean apt-get and aptitude since they both use apt =)08:09
fudgeyso basicly ubuntu doesnt work without internet08:09
rob__but it had xome complaints during the removal08:09
SlackRataptitude came first iirc, and apt get developed from it08:10
Jucatoer?08:10
whiz2_uinstalling all this stuff takes forever08:10
rob__Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/) is what i get as a complaint08:10
SlackRatthe timestamp is a pita , when you dual boot ......08:10
SlackRatand the two systems try to take control of your clock08:10
cpk1!aptfix08:10
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:10
cpk1rob__: do that command08:10
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rob__go ahead and kill process?08:11
SlackRatsometimes it helps to reboot after the sudo  -K timestamp kill if it doesnt seem to work right away08:11
rob__942308:11
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donaldcan somebody help me with two things? installing firefox on kubuntu dapper and installing my conexant modem...08:11
rob__cant you just apt-get install firefox08:12
SlackRatwhat wont die, rob.....?08:12
donaldyes, rob08:12
jarnWhen I click Log Off from the K Menu, the dialog sometimes doesn't come up.08:12
whiz2_adept didn't crash on me08:12
whiz2_just a slow PC08:12
SlackRatadept is slow too08:12
donaldi am installing it through the adept package manager, and it doesnt show up under Internet08:12
rob__haha i killed the process and it sets up vmware again08:12
fudgeyyou know what!! fuck sudo08:13
whiz2_rebooting the Kubuntu PC again08:13
piroany samba experts around who arent busy?08:13
jarndonald: Alt+F2 and type in firefox08:13
skullersabhey guys....its me Skuller...how come sum1 by the name of Skuller is already here?...i just rebooted my computer and before i was logged in as Skuller...what do i do?08:13
SlackRatremove vmware, try with the latest version from the vmplayer site and see how that runs08:13
crystufer2000http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/88416908:13
crystufer2000What am I doing wrong?08:13
rob__is vmplayer necessary?08:13
fudgeyno goddamn commands I can use to change the sudo timestamp cuz I cant access root08:14
Jucatovmware player is only necessary if you want to use vmware player. otherwise, no08:14
Jucatofudgey: try rebooting?08:14
whiz2_i think if Kubyuntu sees a PCI soundcard in my system then it is the actual card... not the onbaord08:14
fudgeyI just did and this came up08:14
SlackRatit hasnt dumped you yet......try /Nick 'new nickname' but you may have to go into NIckServ and kill the ghost08:14
rob__i would like to just rid of it then somehow08:14
SlackRattry just changing the Nick...........08:14
fudgeygdm wount start cuz of something08:14
SlackRatback to what it was08:14
whiz2_is our resident sound man still here?08:14
fudgeyI have to modify the xserver08:15
fudgeybut to do so I need sudo08:15
whiz2_if our resident sound man is still here, I'm ready to try working on the sound08:15
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rob__so i take it removing vmware still leaves the vmware-player08:15
SlackRat i would remove all of it and start fresh08:15
rob__i should just go back to ubuntu08:16
SlackRatdid you get vmplayer from the repos?08:16
Jucatorob__: er. vmware-player is the package name for vmware.08:16
Jucatofor the VMWare Player in the repositories08:16
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Jucatorob__: Kubuntu has absolutely nothing to do with VMWare08:16
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rob__i don't know. after installing the openoffice i had vmware08:16
ForgeAuswhats maemo?08:16
crystufer2000bash: cd: /media/100gb: Permission denied08:16
crystufer2000?08:16
JucatoForgeAus: Google? :D08:16
whiz2_ok I freed up over 300 MB now08:16
SlackRati had no luck with the repo version of vmplayer08:16
Skulleryay..woot..i killed the ghost and m bak again08:16
SlackRattold you08:16
whiz2_I'm ready to work on the sound. ;-)08:16
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SkullerSlackRat: thnx man08:17
SlackRatnp08:17
ForgeAushttp://www.maemo-apps.org08:17
rob__there was no vmware on here until i did a apt-get openoffice or something like that08:17
fudgeycrystufer2000 sudo08:17
ubuntuhi, i mountef my HD and one of my folders is locked, how can i get into this folder?08:17
SlackRatvmware doesnt just appear from open office08:17
Jucatocrystufer2000: you put /mnt/100gb in your fstab. but "bash: cd: /media/100gb: Permission denied" <--- /media08:17
whiz2_SlackRat: where is the resident sound man?08:17
SlackRatyou know where the tools are now.....08:17
Jucatorob__: openoffice doesn't need vmware either. it has to be installed by you for it to be added. there's no package that installs it08:18
SlackRatcheck them now08:18
rob__could have been something after that becuase it installed alot of other things thereafter openoffice. like i also suddenly got vlc and mplayer as well08:18
dettoaltrimenti_is there a package that gives you permission to delete files in an ntfs partition?08:18
crystufer2000jucato I'm trying it under /media/100gb cuz I thought it might be that I didn't have permision to go to /mnt/100gb08:18
whiz2_Jucato: was it you asking about my sound?08:18
Jucatowhiz2_: nope08:18
Jucatowhiz2_: it was crimsun, iirc08:18
Jucato!ntfs | crystufer200008:18
ubotucrystufer2000: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:18
fudgeyaw shit08:18
ForgeAusahh looks like some kinda mobie gui or something08:18
ForgeAusnokia tablets?08:19
ubuntuhow can i open a folder from a terminal/08:19
fudgeynobody ever had this problem b408:19
fudgeyaw fuck ubuntu then08:19
whiz2_crimsum you still there?08:19
ubuntulike acctually have it open in a window08:19
JucatoForgeAus: 770 and 88008:19
rob__it seems vmware is going into a continuous loop after trying to aptitude remove it08:19
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whiz2_guess not08:19
crystufer2000jucato, thanks. I'll read that stuff08:19
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ubuntuJucato: do you know how to make a folder open up (like a gui folder) from a terminal?08:20
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Jucatocrystufer2000: basically, you normally don't have read access to NTFS partitions. but you can set that up to allow a regular user to have read access. but you can't have normal write access w/o damaging your system08:20
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whiz2_guess I can work on the sound another timje08:20
whiz2_time*08:21
Jucatoubuntu: "kfmclient /folder" or "konqueror /folder"08:21
ubuntuthank you08:21
ForgeAushehe can I emulate a TabletPC on desktop?08:21
dettoaltrimenti_does ntfs-3g give permission to delete files in an ntfs partition?08:21
JucatoForgeAus: dunno.. Google? :D08:21
Jucato!ntfs-3g | dettoaltrimenti_08:21
ubotudettoaltrimenti_: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)08:21
Jucatoit does, but still BETA08:21
whiz2_how do i get a program to run when Kubuntu boots? (Before any user actually logs in0 and still run it as a user08:21
dettoaltrimenti_hmm.... ok08:21
whiz2_>?08:21
Jucatoalthough the latest stable Linux kernel version (2.6.20) seem to have NTFS read/write built-in now08:21
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ForgeAusadd it to your boot script? wherever the boot script is I guess08:22
ForgeAus(or does KDE have likea  windows startup folder?08:22
JucatoForgeAus: http://www.maemo.org/faq/faq.html08:22
ninHerg'day all08:22
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samalexhi everyone.  okay, i'm pulling my hair out on this one.  I'm unable to get AMarok to play Mp3s.   Clicking Install mp3 Support does nothing, I've installed libxine-extracodecs and all the other codecs suggested on the ubuntuguide website, even upgraded to 1.4.5 at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.5.php but still no go.08:22
Jucato!autostart | ForgeAus08:22
ubotuForgeAus: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.08:22
ubuntuJucato: konqueror: cannot connect to X server :0.008:22
whiz2_I want it to start up before i login to KDE08:22
whiz2_like the TTY service does08:22
Jucatoubuntu: you're not trying to launch it from a root terminal are you?08:22
ubuntui have to08:22
ubuntuthe folder is locked08:22
ubuntuand thats the only way i can open it08:23
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rob__gues ill try to update my apt08:23
ubuntuunless you knwo of another08:23
Jucatoubuntu: kdesu konqueror08:23
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ForgeAuswhiz wherever the boot script is, thats the place to put it, but I don't know hwere to look08:23
ubuntuoh all knowing Jucato08:23
Jucatoubuntu: that will launch konqueror as root. be careful08:23
ForgeAusits is a console app right?08:23
gay_21hello08:23
whiz2_i have a web server that runs when the computer starts08:23
Jucatohi08:23
ForgeAusnice autostart! I'll chekc that out08:23
ForgeAusdo you just put symbolic link files in there?08:23
whiz2_I can access that without logging in as my user08:24
JucatoForgeAus: autostart stuff only runs after logging in as a user08:24
ismailguys how do i make a program run automaticaly on startup in kubuntu?08:24
ubuntujucato: im just going to do that then move the folder i need08:24
JucatoForgeAus: yep08:24
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ubuntuJucato: like this "kdesu konqueror /Desktop"08:24
Jucato!autostart | ismail08:24
ubotuismail: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.08:24
Jucatoubuntu: you don't need to specify a folder if you run "kdesu konqueror"08:24
ubuntuoh ok08:24
rob__this is quite frustrating getting c++ on kubuntu08:24
Jucatorob__: huh?08:24
ForgeAusok is there a quick and easy way of making symbolic links? the command line looked a bit complex08:24
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fudgeyI take that back08:25
ubuntuJucato: kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.008:25
JucatoForgeAus: using Konqueror?08:25
ForgeAuslast time I needed one I just used krusader and "copied" as a link08:25
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Jucatoubuntu: get out of that root prompt08:25
SlackRatkde is built on c++08:25
rob__i cant locate the configure folder and system complains about it not being located08:25
fudgeyhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/43233/+viewstatus shows that its a problem08:25
ubuntuoh ok08:25
ForgeAushow do you do it in konqueror?08:25
JucatoForgeAus: you can do it 2 ways08:25
fudgeyLOL the problem I gto is uncurable!08:25
whiz2_cool thing is I can already load my KDE desktop from a remote computer08:25
fudgeythus not possible to get my system to work08:25
JucatoForgeAus: right-click in ~/.kde/Autostart/ and Create New -> Link to Application or Link to Loacation (URL)08:26
ForgeAusJucato, which two ways?08:26
crystufer2000woot. thanks, jucato. ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 will solve my problem08:26
Jucatofudgey: I've had that problem before, but a plain reboot cured it08:26
ubuntuJucato: thank you very muck08:26
ubuntumuch*08:26
fudgey=/08:26
JucatoForgeAus: I gave the 1st one08:26
fudgeyil try again then08:26
ForgeAusright click create new link?08:26
fudgeybetter work!08:26
fudgeycuz im on an imac08:26
Jucatofudgey: good luck08:26
Jucatocrystufer2000: nice08:26
fudgeythanks08:26
Jucatoubuntu: you're welcome very much08:26
Jucatough!! I'm being flooded :P08:26
ForgeAusand way 2?08:26
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SlackRattold you it was a documented bug08:26
ForgeAusheeh its ok08:26
ForgeAusI can wait08:26
rob__well the site is telling me to do the ./configure first, and it seems there is no ./configure directory of rile08:27
rob__file*08:27
JucatoForgeAus: the second one is to open 2 konqi's or split konqueror view. set one view to ~/.kde/Autostart/ and the other one to /usr/bin. drag and drop -> select Link here08:27
JucatoForgeAus: notably, this method 2 is similar to right-click Create New -> Link to location (URL)08:27
ForgeAusok nicer that way08:27
ForgeAus(I had trouble using method 1 when I tried linking a folder)08:27
JucatoForgeAus: Create New -> Link to Application creates a .desktop file. Link to Location (URL) creates a symlink08:28
SlackRatrob what r u doing now?08:28
Jucatorob__: you have to be in the directory where the configure script is located08:28
rob__i browsed there and could not find it08:28
SlackRatcd  /path/directory08:28
dettoaltrimenti_what's the terminal web browser?08:28
rob__says usually located at usr/local right?08:28
Jucatorob__: no08:28
rob__thats what the site says08:29
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Jucatorob__: the configure script will be located in the source directory of the program you are trying to compile08:29
Jucatorob__: which site?08:29
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: the what?08:29
SlackRatthats where it will install, where is it downloaded atm?08:29
rob__https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware#head-477e153e9ef5a246d087577ea46a03afa66d32ca08:29
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: oh. w3m, links2, elinks08:29
Jucatorob__: ok let me check what you're referring to08:29
rob__says by default its usually located there08:30
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SlackRati asked you, what are  you doing?08:30
SlackRatrob?08:30
Jucatorob__: "For example, by default the configure *script *installs to /usr/local.**"08:31
rob__yes08:31
whiz2_i wonder where 2.6GB of hard drive space disapeared to... kubuntu itself can't be taking up THAT much space...08:31
SlackRatdid he download a src pkg to install?08:31
Jucatorob__: it doesn't mean that the configure script is in /usr/local08:31
Jucatorob__: have you downloaded the source package of what you want to install?08:31
rob__so it should be in the folder where i saved the cpp?08:31
SlackRatcheck /home08:32
rob__i just did the apt-get build-essential08:32
SlackRatsee if theres a pkg there08:32
Jucatorob__: configure is a script that will create a Makefile, which instructs the system where to install the thing you are trying to install08:32
whiz2_anyone have an idea of how much HDD space a standsard kubuntu install takes up? (Not edgy)08:32
rob__nope just my home dir08:32
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jarnWhen I click Log Off from the K Menu, the dialog sometimes doesn't come up.08:32
Jucatorob__: "build-essential" just installs the programs/tools that you would need in compiling. like the C++ compiler08:32
Kite_DHis there a screenrecording program for kubuntu?08:32
rob__i have never used the configure script before08:33
Jucatorob__: you still have to download the source code for what you are trying to compile.08:33
Jucatorob__: it's a Linux thing08:33
SlackRatand know where it downloads to08:33
rob__so what package do i need for c++08:33
Jucato./configure, make, and make install are Linux processes in compiling software08:33
SlackRatand  extract it from the tar pkg08:33
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Jucatorob__: just plain C++?08:33
rob__yes08:33
Jucatorob__: you already installed it with build-essential. GCC is the compiler. g++ is the command to compile C++ source code08:34
rob__its for school so as long as i can compile c++ console it should work08:34
rob__i have g++08:34
Jucatorob__: configure, make and make install are just needed for compiling "big" apps08:34
rob__i have both gcc and g++ already08:34
Jucatorob__: hm... does your school use Linux for these C++ things?08:35
SlackRatthen you can compile08:35
rob__we use solaris so yes08:35
whiz2_anone know where I can find the boot script?08:35
SlackRatc and c++08:35
Jucatorob__: because afaik, C++ compiled on Linux won't run on other OS's08:35
Jucatohm.. not familiar with Solarish08:35
ForgeAusawesome maemo has an LCARS PADD window manager!08:35
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rob__sorry, i am not familair with afaik08:35
Jucatorob__: afaik = As Far As I Know08:36
rob__oh08:36
whiz2_if I can find theboot script, i can have it login asme, load the program I want, then log out lol08:36
whiz2_err... I think08:36
crystufer2000!pastebin08:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:36
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rob__we use solaris, and our instrucor made a batch file to run for compiling so i don't know what goes on behind the scenes of that file08:37
Jucatorob__: anyway, the command to compile something using g++ normally is "g++ source_code.cpp -o executable_filename" where source_code.cpp is your C++ source code, and executable_filename is the name you want to give to the executable file that is produced08:37
crystufer2000http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6522/08:37
Jucatorob__: if you don't specify the -o filename, the default executable will be named "a.out"08:37
crystufer2000Just incase anyone wanted to see the end product.08:37
Jucatorob__: you might also want to drop by ##c++ for more C++-specific instructions08:38
rob__let me jot that down on gedit so i wont forget later08:38
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SlackRathmn, drake wont even allow a g++ install08:38
SlackRatbroken deps08:39
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rob__can i do the g++ in the kdev console08:39
Jucatokdevelop? not really familiar with it08:39
SlackRatgcc handles c++ as well08:39
JucatoSlackRat: um...08:40
JucatoSlackRat: g++ *is* gcc w/ the C++ related flags :)08:40
rob__so i just do that in the konsole?08:40
SlackRatyeah, but g++  version 4 cant be installed08:40
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Jucatorob__: any terminal08:40
JucatoSlackRat: not sure about dapper. but I think it's the default in Edgy08:40
Jucatogcc4.1 on edgy08:41
whiz2_ok somebody help me out here. I need to add somethingto my boot script to run when kubuntu runs (before KDE login)08:41
whiz2_but i dunno where to find the boot script08:41
SlackRatdependant on libstd++ which wont be installd, any of the gcc pkgs08:41
SlackRatwhich are usually installed defaut....08:42
rob__does the executable name need an extension08:42
Jucatorob__: on Linux, no08:42
Jucatorob__: http://www.deitel.com/registration/registrationForm.asp?ultimateDestination=http://www.deitel.com/books/cppHTP4/cppHTP4_DiveIntoGCCLinux_AlphaDraft.zip08:43
Jucatorob__: that's a free ebook entitled Dive into GNU C++ on Linux08:43
rob__sweet08:43
Jucatorob__: **legally** free08:43
Jucatoerr... I think you just have to register or something... :(08:44
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Jucatono biggie.just an e-mail and occupation field08:44
rob__cool no need to go to email for download08:45
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rob__hmm kdev doesn't recgonize .cpp? when trying to open existing .cpp files it only has options for kdevelop stuff08:46
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Jucatonot really familiar with kdevelop yet...08:47
Jucatoyou can open .cpp in any text editor though.08:47
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rob__i suppose kate or gedit would work just as well08:48
Jucatofor a single file/project .cpp, kdevelop just might be too much. I'd rather use Kate for now08:48
rob__but where are doing oo so there are many classes and its seems harsh using kate or gedit08:48
Jucatorob__: kate has a sort of terminal "tab" at the bottom08:48
rob__oh didn't notice it08:48
Jucatooh yeah, by that time Kdevelop might come in handy08:48
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Jucatorob__: you might want to drop by #kdevelop too08:49
Jucatotraffic seems to have slowed down a bit... I can breathe now :)08:49
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SlackRatits been ages, so i dont need g++ for c++ programming?08:49
SlackRattheres a dep hell08:49
SlackRatin dapper08:49
rob__haha, sorry for the trouble, im so new to linux. i am taking a linux class that just started jan 2208:50
SlackRatno problem08:50
Jucatorob__: that's what this channel is for :)08:50
pirowhat would the directory to trash be?08:50
piroif one wanted to cd to it08:51
Jucatoit's been a while though, since I tried answering a barrage of queries...08:51
Jucatopiro: ~/.local/share/Trash08:51
piroty08:51
Jucatopiro: but take note that "trash" as we know it is actually split into 2 directories08:51
whiz2_nobody knows anythingabout the boot script?08:51
jarnWhen I click Log Off from the K Menu, the dialog sometimes doesn't come up.08:52
Jucatowhiz2_: sorry... nope :(08:52
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piroi have a folder in there being lame about permissions my user owns it but still wont let me delete it08:52
fudgeyjucato08:52
rob__can someone explain to me the make. do i need to specify arguments to make after compiling it08:52
fudgeyrestart doesnt work08:52
Jucatopiro: tried going to "trash:/" ?08:52
fudgey=/08:52
Jucatofudgey: aw.. :(08:52
whiz2_I'm trying to get vncserver to start up when Kubuntu starts up (without having to login to the TTY service to run it)08:52
fudgeyI tried using the date cmd08:52
fudgeyI think it works08:52
SlackRatjucato, basic c++ is covered by which compiler, since theres a fight between g++ versions and libstd++ libs08:52
fudgeybut I dont know how to use it08:53
Jucatorob__: you only need "make" if you have a makefile. I'm doubting you do08:53
piroJucato: ya thats where its giving me the error permission prompt so I wanted to chown it in cli08:53
JucatoSlackRat: g++ is just a sort of alias to gcc w/ the C++ flags set08:53
rob__so how does one go about running it after compiling08:53
rob__do i just use src or something08:53
SlackRatso i dont need it, its just more of an extra utility....08:53
piroword thanks got it taken care of08:54
SlackRatuntil these versions settle down08:54
crystufer2000Why won't konquerer show previews of jpg's?08:54
JucatoSlackRat: man:/gcc - " g++ is a program that calls GCC with the default language set to , and automatically specifies linking against the library. "08:54
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Jucatocrystufer2000: check View menu -> Previews08:55
SlackRatits been so long i dont recall what i used when trying to learn c++08:55
Jucatorob__: running the executable that's produced?08:55
whiz2_lightftpd start when kubuntu starts.. why can't I have vncserve do the same whaaaah!08:55
mediacenteranybody in here know much about raid?08:55
SlackRatwhich annoyed me so much i went back to c anyways08:55
Jucato!raid08:55
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO08:55
mediacenteri need some help getting raid5 set up08:55
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fudgeyc++ is better...08:55
whiz2_!boot08:55
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto08:55
SlackRatraid kills bugs dead08:55
rob__i got the executable made, but don't know how to run it08:55
Jucatoer.. let's not get into C vs C++ stuff here ok?08:55
ubuntuhi, how can i play a .avi on a live cd?08:55
rob__i feel like an idiot08:55
fudgeyLOL08:56
SlackRatim not, im getting into compilers i can run08:56
Jucatorob__: go to the directory where the executable is located, then run: ./executable_name08:56
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JucatoSlackRat: well better be specific.. C vs C++ has sparked many a war. C++ is not a compiler :P08:56
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piroubuntu: what kind of a live cd? I linux one or do you mean just any cd ?08:56
ubuntukubuntu08:57
SlackRatyeah, no flame wars.....i wont mention vi or emacs either, heh08:57
Jucatoubuntu: you'd have to install libxine-extracodecs from the multiverse repository08:57
Jucato!multiverse | ubuntu08:57
ubotuubuntu: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:57
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ubuntuhow do i download somthing on a livecd?08:57
SlackRatnano is minimal enuf08:57
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rob__oh easy enough08:57
pirooh i got one that i been meaning to ask, how do i make file managers show total size of folders and not 4-8kb ?08:57
rob__feels ruff having to learn an os again. but it'll be worth it so long as i don't have to deal with windows again for as long as i can stay away from it08:58
Jucatopiro: currently, I don't think that's possible with Konqueror yet, at least not without right-clicking -> Properties08:58
ubuntuJucato: i have a harddrive mounted, can i download to that?08:58
Jucatoubuntu: you can, but once you reboot or restart, the system won't remember that you installed libxine-extracodecs, so it will be a bit useless08:59
ubuntui jsut need it this one time08:59
ubuntuto watch a video08:59
ubuntucause im getting a new harddrive tommrow08:59
piroJucato: ty08:59
ubuntuand i dont want to waste a cd08:59
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vgeubuntu: cdrw for the win08:59
ubuntuhmm?08:59
Jucatoubuntu: just right now? then just add the multiverse repository to your sources.list, and install libxine-extracodecs normally09:00
ubuntualright09:00
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fudgeyhow can I enable root when Im not root?09:01
vgesudo command09:01
Jucatohm.. difficult question...09:01
whiz2_enable root how?09:01
rob__okay now im wondering, if i use the files on windows the cpp files should still be fine as it is right since its just the code and all09:01
fudgeyroot has no pass09:01
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Jucatofudgey: btw, can you boot into Recovery Mode from the GRUB menu?09:01
fudgeyso it doesnt work09:01
whiz2_i don't think you can enable root to be able to login to KDE09:01
fudgeyhow?09:01
ubuntuJucato:Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:01
Jucatofudgey: root user is disabled in Kubuntu.  you use sudo and your user password09:01
fudgeyLOl09:02
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fudgeysudo doesnt work09:02
Jucatofudgey: that's why I asked if you can boot into Recovery mode09:02
nomad111my kubuntu doesnt restart sometimese09:02
whiz2_what are you tryimg to do fudgey?09:02
nomad111does any1 kno of any common problems involving restarting09:02
Jucatofudgey: in the GRUB menu when you boot, there's a line that has (recovery mode) at the end09:02
fudgeyim trying to get my gdm to load09:02
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rob__does su work to get in as root too?09:02
fudgeyI dont have grub09:02
Jucatorob__: only if they're Standard C++ complian source code09:02
fudgeysu doesnt work09:02
fudgeymy gdm doesn twork09:03
fudgeysudo doesnt work09:03
rob__oh09:03
Jucatofudgey: what do you mean you dont' have grub?09:03
rob__so just use the root shell09:03
fudgeyI dont know09:03
Jucatofudgey: you don't see a menu when you boot? where you can choose which kernel or Windows?09:03
fudgeyroot shell?09:03
fudgeynope09:03
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fudgeyI dont09:03
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whiz2_fudgey: you have a multiboot system?09:04
rob__konsole has a root shell09:04
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fudgeynope09:04
Jucatofudgey: it boots directly to Kubuntu?09:04
fudgeyyeah09:04
whiz2_that's hat mine does. boots directly to kubuntu09:04
fudgey=/09:04
daftmancan someone help me stop evolution from running at the start?09:04
fudgeyI got ubuntu and Iv never had this prob09:04
Jucatofudgey: hm.. try this, when you get past the BIOS thingy, just before it starts the bootsplash, try pressing Esc (again and again) to show the menu09:04
whiz2_just doesn't login to the dekstop automaticallyt09:05
ubuntuJucato: Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:05
Jucato!autostart | daftman09:05
ubotudaftman: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.09:05
fudgeyok09:05
Skullerhey  guys...i need some serious help for getting my APC UPS to work..anyone free at the moment?09:05
fudgeythen what?09:05
Jucatodaftman: you're using evolution in kubuntu? O.o09:05
whiz2_i want it to start before my KDE session09:05
daftmanno i dont but it just start as a background process09:05
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daftmani don't know how to kill it09:05
Jucatoer..09:05
Jucatowait. sorry I gave you the wrong link09:05
daftmani have evolution exchange service09:06
daftmanand evolution -alarm-notify running09:06
Jucatoah then you probably need evolution running in the background for that09:06
daftmani want to turn it off09:06
daftmanI just want a clean dekstop machine09:06
Skullerppl i need help in getting apcupsd to work so i can use my APC UPS in kubuntu09:06
dettoaltrimenti_daftman: type ps-e | grep evolution09:06
Jucatoum.. uninstall it?09:06
dettoaltrimenti_daftman: in the terminal, find the number next to it, then 'sudo kill (that number)'09:07
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daftmanyea i know how to kill it09:07
_4strOyop09:07
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daftmanI just don't want it to start at boot09:07
dettoaltrimenti_[11:06]  <daftman> i don't know how to kill it ;)09:07
whiz2_I love linux09:07
Jucato!startup09:08
ubotuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup09:08
Jucatoer not that.. hm...09:08
whiz2_but I still need to figure out hwo to get something to start when i boot09:08
SlackRatwow, its been awhile since i saw such a dependency mes09:08
whiz2_before my KDE session begins09:08
fudgeysystem09:08
rob__wow so does this mean i have to do a g++ compile for every class i got?09:08
fudgeyasystem/administration/sessions09:08
daftmanget it running is easy09:08
daftmangetting it to stop is hard09:08
daftmani have stupid evolution server running09:09
Jucatodaftman: might want to ask in #ubuntu how they do it09:09
daftmanam trying09:09
whiz2_thinkthey might know in #ubuntu where the boot script is?09:10
whiz2_.j #ubuntu09:10
Jucatodaftman: you can check /usr/share/autostart... but I think that's for KDE09:10
dettoaltrimenti_jucato- what file determines which programs run at startup? init.d?09:11
dromerhmm, I have a pc running blackbox, and the scrollwhel of the mouse doesn't work. the middle-mouse-button does, but I can't scroll with it. if I use synergy with the mouse of another pc however I can scroll. how can I make the scroll work on this pc?09:11
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Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: depends on which "startup"09:11
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fudgeycan we remove timestamp from the ubuntu system?!09:13
fudgeyits retarded I swear09:13
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Jucatofudgey: sudo -K or sudo -k doesn't work?09:14
Jucatostill won't work?09:14
krautmoin09:14
fudgeynothign with sudo works!09:14
fudgeyNOTHING!09:14
fudgeybasicly sudo is uninstalled for all I know09:14
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fudgeysudo is there but not working09:14
whiz2_I'm getting slightly frustrated.. :-S09:14
fudgeyyou?!09:14
fudgeyI cant get a system to install for 4 hours!09:15
ubuntuwhat form of file compression has the greatest compression ratio?09:15
Jucatowhiz2_: try Google?09:15
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Lynourefudgey: do you get an error message or something?09:16
fudgeyonly with time stamp09:16
fudgeyits liek 190409:16
ubuntuwhat form of file compression has the greatest compression ratio?09:16
whiz2_That's an idea...09:16
SlackRatSince you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that09:17
SlackRatthe package is simply not installable and a bug report against09:17
SlackRatthat package should be filed.09:17
SlackRatThe following information may help to resolve the situation:09:17
SlackRatthats not good is it.....09:17
fudgey??09:17
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Skullerplease someone help me with getting my APC ups driver to work "apcupsd"09:17
fudgeythe greatest compression ratio is google09:17
fudgeyat least my problem is one of a kind09:18
_4strO^^09:18
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piroubuntu: the best form of compression is 1.6 bits per symbol09:18
piro~09:19
whiz2_gee... what i found on google talks about adding a script to bootup, but this isn't a script09:19
piro0.6*09:19
Lynourefudgey: no, it is not... If you google with the error message, you'll see others have had it09:19
Tm_Twhiz2_: You're doing what?09:19
fudgeybut they never solved it...09:20
fudgeyhaha09:20
Jucatowhiz2_: what is it then?09:20
fudgeylmao09:20
whiz2_Trying to make vncserver startup during boot time as my user without having to login to TTY to start it manually09:20
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ubuntuanyone here know how to install on a raid array?09:20
Tm_Twhiz2_: Just make script that runs vncserver, now you have script.09:20
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Jucatowhiz2_: um.. afaik Linux uses scripts to do those. so make a script for it as Tm_T mentioned09:20
whiz2_vncserver works perfectly fine when it's running, but it doesn't start up during boot time09:21
whiz2_I dunno how to make a script09:21
Lynourefudgey: if you go in  through the recovery boot you will have root and then you can just delete the sudo time stamp09:21
fudgeysO I hold esc when starting up?09:21
whiz2_if I did, i'd prolly have it done, and working by now, ;-)09:21
fudgeythen recovery?09:21
fudgeythen how to remove the time stamp?09:22
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Jucatofudgey: hold or keep on pressing. then sudo -k or sudo -K once you're there09:22
Tm_Twhiz2_: It's just textfile containing commands, and have executable mode.09:22
Jucatofudgey: recovery mode will boot you into root console09:22
fudgeyawesome09:22
fudgeylet me try now09:23
whiz2_can I get that script to login as me, run vncserver, then logout?09:23
fudgeythanks a ton guys09:23
Jucatofudgey: the tricky part is getting into the menu by pressing Esc09:23
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whiz2_it absolutely has to run it as my user. it can't run it as root09:23
Jucatohm...09:23
JucatoTm_T: looks like something that can be done in .bash_profile or .bashrc?09:24
whiz2_if it runs as root, i dont'09:24
whiz2_I don't have remote access to my desktop09:24
Tm_TJucato: Something like that, maybe.09:24
Tm_TOR not.09:24
Jucatoheh09:24
Jucatolol sorry, not familiar with anything .bash* :D09:24
Tm_TMe neither much.09:25
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fudgeyok im in boot mode09:25
fudgeyim lost now09:25
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Jucatofudgey: you were able to choose Recovery mode?09:25
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fudgeyawhats cmd to get into recovery mode?09:25
fudgeyI cant chose recovery mode09:25
fudgeyit just says boot:09:25
Jucatoum?? that just appeared when you pressed Esc?09:25
fudgeyyeah09:25
fudgeyits stuck there09:26
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fudgeyyeah09:26
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Lynourewhiz2_: make a startup script, make sure it is owned by you. setuid it. That should work09:27
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fudgeyok now what09:27
Jucatofudgey: no menu comes up? hm.. let me think.. :(09:27
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fudgeytake out my hard drive and crush it with my jack hammer09:27
Jucatolol no09:28
morticiwth my drives are not detected GAH09:28
whiz2_think if maybe I add it to my KDE startup it would work the way i'm trying to get it to?09:28
fudgeythen give my comp a salt bath'09:28
JucatoI just don't know the command...09:28
fudgeygive it an emp pulse09:28
SlackRatomg, what a naasty bugseses09:28
Jucatowhiz2_: might probably a better thing to do09:28
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Jucatofudgey: don't go sci fi on me now... :D09:29
whiz2_heh09:29
fudgeyI have an emp dedevice haha09:29
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whiz2_now I just have to figure out how to do that09:29
Lynourefudgey: in that case, boot with install cd, mount / partition, remove the user file in /var/run/sudo in that filesystem09:29
whiz2_ut would that run it before my desktop session logs in?09:29
fudgeysounds confusing09:29
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Lynourewhiz2_: adding it to kde startup works if it ok if it runs automatically when you log in.09:30
whiz2_if not, then I still have to login to the TTY service to run it as me09:30
whiz2_I want it to run before I login to my desktop session09:30
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Lynourewhiz2_: did you see what I said about a startup script? Did it not work?09:30
whiz2_I want to be able to boot to the login screen, then from a remote computer, run the vnc client, and immediately have access to my desktop without havig to tty into it, and start it09:31
SlackRatthat was wierd09:31
whiz2_startup scrupt... i had another question that went unanswered09:31
fudgeyoh my god09:31
fudgeythats gonna take an hour09:31
Lynourefudgey: no, just 10min or so if you have an install cd there.09:31
whiz2_Lynoure: can I make a startup script that logs in as my user, runs vncserver, then logs out?09:31
Jucatofudgey: if only I knew the boot command to make it boot into single-user/recovery mode09:32
fudgeyyeah09:32
fudgey!!09:32
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SlackRatif i could figure out what just happened i could file a sticky09:32
SlackRator a bug report09:32
SlackRatack09:32
Jucatofudgey: so you have a sort of boot: prompt there?09:33
fudgeyyeah09:33
_4strOwhiz2_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-189555.html09:33
_4strObe carefull --> read the end of page09:34
whiz2_ok09:34
Jucatofudgey: not sure if "ro single" are commands but those seem to be the options used in my /boot/grub/menu.lst09:34
_4strOthe guy made a mistake :p09:34
fudgeylet me see if it works09:34
_4strO# sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/ssh S99vncserver09:34
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_4strOnot ssh but vncserver09:35
fudgeyok09:35
fudgeyro single doesnt work09:36
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fudgeyI tried help09:36
fudgeytheres only one cmd09:36
fudgeythats to access the Linux kernel09:36
fudgeyso I typed Linux and ubuntu boots up -_09:36
fudgey-_-09:36
fudgeyso no grub09:36
fudgey=/09:36
JucatoO.o09:36
fudgeyrecovery mode w/e09:37
whiz2_i read to the end of the page... what was I looking for? something dangerous to the OS?09:37
_4strOfudgey:  what's the pb ?09:37
fudgeypb?09:37
whiz2_I'm hoping I just found the information I need...09:37
Jucato_4strO: timestamp too far into the future09:37
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Jucatofudgey: pb = problem :)09:37
fudgey=D09:37
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SlackRatfinally, a compiler09:37
fudgeypb = peanut butter09:38
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fudgeyLOL09:38
_4strOwhiz2_ : no but the guy made a mistake  # sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/ssh S99vncserver09:38
rob__not very friendly compiling OO C++09:38
franxhi there. i use kde (duh!) and I have a folder which has what looks like a powerplug coming out of it?09:38
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franxanyone seen anything like that09:38
whiz2_what is XDMCP09:38
_4strOlol fudgey09:38
whiz2_?09:38
SlackRatnot very friendly even getting a  compiler installed without dependency hell09:38
franxthought it might be because its a large folder or something09:39
rob__haha09:39
_4strOwhiz2_: for autorized remote controle of your session i think09:39
whiz2_and why would I possibly need that for vncserver to start at boot?09:39
_4strOor09:39
Jucatorob__: you just need to adjust to a new OS and a new way of doing things, I guess09:39
_4strOopen rpote session09:39
_4strOopen remote session09:39
rob__yes indeed09:39
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whiz2_I can already login to a remote session. i'm controlling my KDE desktop remotely now09:40
franxthis is how i start vnc at boot09:40
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whiz2_it's not getting the remote session, it's getting vncserver to simply run as my use at boot09:40
rob__DevC++ was about the only thing i liked about programming C++ in windows. now its even more challenging to compile OO in linux09:40
franxsu -c - user /home/user/vnc.sh09:40
franxthats in my /etc/rc.local09:40
whiz2_ok09:40
franx#!/bin/sh09:41
SlackRatits actually easier in linux, more the old fashioned way09:41
whiz2_how do I get /etc/rc.local ro execute at startup?09:41
franxvncserver :209:41
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franxthats in my vnc.sh file09:41
whiz2_I feel like I'm going in circles09:41
rob__guess ill get my instructor to help out on this one. getting late here and im getting a brainache so good night folks. oh and thanks agian for all the trouble09:41
SlackRatnite09:41
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franxrc.local automatically loads at startup09:41
whiz2_I'm getting vague answers09:42
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whiz2_ok.09:42
franxwhiz2_: prv msg me if you want09:42
franxman i sure like crossover09:43
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whiz2_did you get my prv message?09:43
franxnegative09:43
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whiz2_in my case I think the script would be su -c- jason /home/jason/vnc.sh right?09:44
whiz2_Sorry. i'm not using a normal IRC client. I don't think my prv messages will work09:45
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franxmaybe a space between 'c' and '-'09:45
franxthats what i have09:46
whiz2_franx: do you have an instant messenger?09:46
franxmsn?09:46
whiz2_i have that09:46
whiz2_can I put my addy in channel for you to grab?09:46
franxhow come my apt doesnt show that there is an available kde to update to09:47
whiz2_dunno09:47
SlackRatjucato, were the C compilers default in the edgy install?09:47
JucatoSlackRat: nope09:47
franx./j #msnstuff09:47
franxwhiz2_:09:47
SlackRatjust worked my way round wierd lib deps09:47
whiz2_ok09:48
SlackRatjust wish i could remember what i did that worked, now, lol09:49
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Jucatolol09:49
Jucatodon't worry, by the time you upgrade, GCC will be upgraded too.. if you upgrade :)09:49
SlackRatim tempted to wait for stable releases, given how much work on this box i use09:50
SlackRatbut no idea when the next LTS is coming up09:50
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Jucatono announcement yet...09:50
JucatoLTS != version updates though...09:51
Jucatolots of people seem to confuse that09:51
Skuller!apcupsd09:51
ubotuapcupsd: APC UPS Power Management. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.12.3-1 (edgy), package size 295 kB, installed size 1056 kB09:51
tucohi guys how can I open wmv files format in kubuntu? What is the best player and is there codecs I need to download?09:51
Skuller!APC09:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:51
Skuller!UPS09:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:51
SlackRatvlc , mplayer and codecs, caffeine, w32 codec, libdvdcss09:52
fudgeyno screens found f" is the error!09:52
Skullertuco: u need to get the w32codecs09:52
fudgeyfound it!09:52
tucoah from adept yeah?09:52
Jucatonope09:53
Jucatoyou have to manually download and install w32codecs09:53
Skullercan anyone help me to get apcupsd to work...it is the driver for APS UPS09:53
SkullerAPC*09:54
tucofrom where Jucato?09:54
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_4strOtuco: automatix209:54
franx!kde09:54
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE09:54
_4strOlook on google09:54
franxhmm09:54
fudgeyAW crap fuck this shit! http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/23/13720609:54
franxanyone know why new kde isnt showing in adept?09:54
fudgeyFUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:54
Jucatofudgey: please09:55
fudgeyplease..09:55
fudgeylet me be!!09:55
_4strOfranx u dont have the good repositories ?09:55
Jucatotuco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs09:55
fudgeyplan B time!09:55
Jucato!automatix | _4strO09:55
ubotu_4strO: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe09:55
fudgeyfuck the shit outta my cpu!09:55
fudgeymuhahaha09:55
franxi have standard kbuntu repositories09:55
fudgeyMUHAHAHAHAHA09:55
franxim not a ubuntu upgrader09:55
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fudgeyits a junk piece of technology anyway09:56
_4strOJucato: i put automatix and dont have any pb :p09:56
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Jucato!worksforme | _4strO09:56
tucook will try.09:56
ubotu_4strO: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.09:56
Jucatorawr... a bit off, but it gets the message through09:56
_4strOlol Jucato09:56
fudgeyno screens found f" HELP IS NEEDED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!109:57
Jucato_4strO: it's just like this. sure it works for you. might not work for everyone. and if it doesn't work, we can't really support it here... we can try, but we can't guarantee :)09:57
_4strOok09:58
ERWERhi09:58
_4strOand the good way to have win32codecs is to find them on a website and install it ?09:59
ERWERi was wonderign if you could help me with something09:59
fudgeyno screens found f" HELP IS NEEDED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!109:59
ERWERi cant install drivers for ati09:59
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_4strOwhy dont say to add universe/multiverse repo and install them with adept ?09:59
franxwhats the repo that has kde in it?10:00
_4strOfudgey: what have u done ?10:00
_4strOlol10:00
Jucatofranx: KDE 3.5.6?10:00
tucook cool it works I still don't have the sound though :-)10:01
fudgeyI figured it out the problem!!!10:01
_4strOtuco: is the sound active ?10:01
fudgeya problem with the card im thinking10:01
_4strOopen kmix and look10:01
_4strO:;p10:01
fudgeygraphic card10:01
Jucatofudgey: hm.. most probably...10:01
_4strO(if u on KDE)10:01
fudgeyso I need to fix the xorg cfg10:02
fudgeybut I dont know what card my computer uses10:02
fudgeycuz It uses a generic one10:02
fudgeydo you know what kind cards imac's uses?10:02
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_4strOfudgey:  and u have this pb just after installation10:02
franxJucato: yes10:02
fudgeyYES10:02
fudgeyRight after10:03
fudgeyit causes my gdm to not load10:03
franxfudgey: nvidia?10:03
_4strOyep10:03
fudgeynot sure10:03
tucowell I set it up for my audigy10:03
Jucatofranx: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php10:03
fudgeyI have no clue of what the card could be10:03
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franxfudgey: did you just update your kernel and you cant find a screen?10:03
Skullercan anyone help me with my UPS driver 'apcupsd'?10:03
franxfudgey: cos ive solved that prob10:04
_4strOtuco: u're on KDE ?10:04
fudgeyyeah10:04
tucoyes10:04
fudgeyI didnt update10:04
fudgeyI was installing the system10:04
fudgeyand booting for first time10:04
fudgeyyou solved it?10:04
tucoI don't get the sound either in Amarok10:04
_4strOin the Kmix Master and PCM have the green led lightning ?10:04
_4strO(sorry 4 my english :)10:05
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tucooutput or input :-)?10:05
_4strOoutput10:05
thomas_hallo?10:05
Skuller!ups10:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:06
franxif thats your prob10:06
franxyes sir10:06
franxi fixed it10:06
tucowell all levels are up as far as I can see10:06
_4strOand the green led ?10:06
franxnot only that10:06
franxif your prob is nvidia10:07
franxill help you fix10:07
franxit10:07
franxunlike some others here (not jucato- he was very helpful)10:07
franx=] 10:07
tucoit shows a half white green triangle underneath output10:07
JucatoO.o10:07
tucosort of10:08
Jucatosorry, can't have my eyes fixed on the channel... :)10:08
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franxJucato: 3.5.6 any good?10:08
franxJucato: or more importantly10:08
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Jucatofranx: so far yeah. btw, there's no 3.5.6 for Dapper (just in case you're on Dapper)10:08
franxJucato: how much damage will it do to my system to upgrade to it10:09
franx(edgy)10:09
Jucatodamage? none that I know of10:09
Grey_Foxwhere do I dl beryl?10:09
franxberyl10:09
franxi run that10:09
franxits cool10:09
_4strOvery cool10:09
Jucato!beryl | Grey_Fox10:09
ubotuGrey_Fox: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:09
franxbut its a bit crap on a 1.4/gf2mx10:09
_4strOmake vista obselet10:09
Grey_Foxthanks ubotu10:09
_4strO^^10:09
tucoI also make sure its the audigy card and not intel audio10:09
Grey_Foxvista was always obsolete10:10
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Jucatofranx: there were some fixes for kicker (KDE's panel) in 3.5.6 so that it would work a bit better w/ beryl10:10
Grey_Foxcool10:10
franxbut when i finally get a 2600xp from ebay (stupid snipers) it will rule10:10
franxand maybe a 7600gt10:10
franxor soemthing10:10
Grey_FoxI saw a vid for it10:10
tucono sound damn :-(10:10
franxJucato: will i need to rm my .kde dir?10:10
Jucatofrojnd: no!!!10:11
Jucatofranx: never rm your .kde dir unless absolutely necessary10:11
Grey_Foxit's a bit of alearning curve switching to kubuntu10:11
_4strOtuco: think it's juste mute10:12
Jucatothere a learning curve in switching to anything. how steep that curve is depends on how used you were to the previous state10:12
Grey_Foxhah yeah10:12
Grey_Foxhaha10:12
Grey_Foxwell, beryl should be fun10:13
tucoI can't see how it can be mute...all levels up, audigy 2 sz chosen10:13
franxJucato: i once upgraded kde and i needed to rm the dir before it would work10:13
franxJucato: tis all10:13
tucobut then again I can be wrong10:13
Jucatofranx: er... that's a bit.. wrong... :(10:13
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Grey_Foxdoes deb work in kde?10:14
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JucatoGrey_Fox: you mean in Kubuntu?10:14
JucatoKubuntu is Debian based10:14
Grey_Foxyeah10:14
Grey_Foxbecause it won't work when I type it in konsole10:14
Jucatowhat won't work?10:15
Grey_Foxthe command 'deb'10:15
Jucatobecause there's no 'deb' command :)10:15
Jucato!dpkg10:15
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.10:15
Grey_Foxk10:15
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Grey_Foxlousy, lying wikis...10:15
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_4strO:p10:15
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franxJucato: it was mandriva tho i was using10:16
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Grey_Foxrofl10:16
franxJucato: so i mean, its no kubuntu10:16
franxJucato: =] 10:16
Jucatofranx: heh :)10:17
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Grey_Fox2001 ftw10:17
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tucoI made sure of the master channel as well ...amarok doesnt produce sound too guys :-(10:18
Jucato!sound10:18
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:18
lumarkSalve ragazzi10:18
lumarkqualcuno disposto ad aiiutarmi x casi?10:19
Jucato!it | lumark10:19
ubotulumark: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:19
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Grey_Foxjucato with the !10:19
Jucato:D10:19
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_4strO!jucato10:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jucato - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:20
Jucatoer?10:20
Grey_Foxhaha10:20
_4strO^^10:20
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justin_Hi all, is there a problem with packages.freecontrib.org lately that anyone has heard about?10:21
Grey_FoxI wonder why my internet is slower on kubuntu, then on xp10:21
Grey_Foxbrowser?10:21
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franxJucato: whats the advantage of apt-key say in relation to adding a pgp key to my apt repo?10:21
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Grey_Fox!apt10:22
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)10:22
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Jucatojustin_: I think PLF is not support Ubuntu anymore  not really sure though10:22
magnusHi. How can I change the text encoding in console?10:22
Grey_Foxlousy internets10:22
Jucatomagnus: Settings -> Encoding?10:22
justin_Ah, that would explain it, thanks10:22
magnusJucato: No X on this one10:22
magnusNeed to do it from ssh10:23
Jucatoah... hm... sorry no idea...10:23
magnusMy norwegian charracters won't work in irssi ;)10:23
Grey_Foxhow do you check which version of ubuntu you're running?10:23
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Jucatofranx: apt-get will stop complaining that you have an untrusted repository10:23
Jucato!version | Grey_Fox10:23
ubotuGrey_Fox: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell10:23
Grey_Foxcool10:24
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Grey_Foxis feisty fawn good?10:24
Grey_Foxmaybe I should upgrade10:24
franxCodename:       edgy10:24
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franxsweetr10:24
tucodamn damn damn10:25
Jucato!feisty | Grey_Fox10:25
ubotuGrey_Fox: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+110:25
JucatoGrey_Fox: don't upgrade yet10:25
Grey_Foxk10:28
Grey_Foxjust in alpha10:28
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Grey_Foxgotta stop believing wikis10:28
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Grey_Foxpipe!10:29
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Grey_Foxhi piro10:31
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Grey_Fox!ubuntu10:33
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome10:33
tucoonly plays the onboard sound arggggghhhhhh!10:33
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Grey_Foxlet see if telnet is faster then konquerer10:34
franxJucato: i shouldnt need to be logged out of kde to upgrade it should i?10:35
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n4chttuco: you know why that is?   because linux isn't windows.  linux will say "here's a device.  let's use that.  we'll ignore the other one unless you explicitly tell me to."    simple solution is that if you want a pci audio device to be detected, turn -off- your on-board audio in your bios settings prior to installation.10:41
phobiacOkay. I need an opinion here. When my computer boots up, all keyboard function until kubuntu boots is gone (I can't press escape at the grub menu), and once kubuntu boots i have keyboard control but no mouse function.10:41
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phobiacI'm thinking the computer itself is messed up, considering I have no keyboard before kubuntu even boots.10:41
n4chtlinux, when deciding which audio device to use, makes no assumptions.  it simply uses the first one available, which is always the onboard if it's not disabled.10:41
n4chtphobiac: usb or ps/2?10:41
_4strOn4cht: awesome10:41
tucoI know n4cht it isn't windows thank you. I am just bluffled because the audigy is listed, levels master and pcm and the rest all up, mute unticked etc. I am new to Linux but not that thick, just bluffled!10:41
phobiacn4cht: ps/2 I think? It's a laptop10:41
n4chtphobiac: ohh.  you mean the built-in keyboard?10:41
Grey_Foxso, vi or emacs?10:41
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phobiacn4cht: Yes10:41
tucoand I can't disable the onboard sound in the bios it's a laptop!10:41
n4chtphobiac: i would actually check with your manufacturer on that one.10:41
phobiacI also SEEM to have keeyboard control when kubuntu starts up, I can log in at least.10:41
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n4chttuco: that's odd.  i've never seen a laptop that doesn't allow you to disable the on-board in favor of an external unit.10:41
phobiacHowever I can't do ctrl, alt, or function keys10:41
tucoacer 5670 try it!10:41
n4chtphobiac: i'm pretty sure it's a combo of both ubuntu -and- your laptop.10:41
phobiacn4cht: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.10:41
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tucoLet me see if by logging off and on again it works.10:41
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phobiacI'm thinking the BIOS is messed up. No keyboard control before kubuntu starts is not good.10:41
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Grey_Foxget the free bios10:48
Grey_Foxbbl10:48
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phobiacI'm considering just buying a new computer. This isn't the first major issue I've had with it.10:48
n4chtphobiac: it's probably the bios, but once you boot into ubuntu, you should have full keyboard control unless 1) the keyboard is physically damaged somehow or 2) you selected the wrong keyboard type during install.10:48
n4chtphobiac: if you do that, ship me the laptop.  lol.  i could always use a new paperweight.  :D10:48
phobiacn4cht: It was working just moments ago, until I rebooted.10:48
phobiacn4cht: I plan on trying to fix it in my spare time. :P It has some sentimental value.10:48
n4chtyikes.  so it just stopped letting you have control of the keyboard -recently- ?10:48
phobiacDespite the fact that the frame is busted10:48
n4chtprior to that reboot, all was well?10:48
phobiacYes10:48
vgekopete can handle UTF8 to ISO xx?10:48
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vgeif so, how?10:48
n4chtframe busts are normal.   my wife's laptop looks like the display is going to fall off at any minute.10:48
nidalhi all , I am trying to telnet to port 80 of yahoo.com, its giving the prompt fine. But when I try to give a get request for any further link url (e.g www.yahoo.com/s/511021) it waits for a long time and then gives following error error10:48
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nidal<TITLE>ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved</TITLE>10:48
nidal<A HREF="">209.131.36.158www.yahoo.com/s/511021</A>10:48
n4chtnidal: why are you trying to telnet to yahoo anyway?10:48
nidalthis is the same case with any site? can you suggest me what is wrong with this ? I am sorry to put up this question here as Its not specific to kubuntu (though I am running kubuntu)10:48
phobiacn4cht: How well do you know gateway's? Because the joint for the monitor broke on mine, and apparently it was part of the frame. That's how bad the damage is. It's still usable but inconvient.10:48
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nidaln4cht , I am infact testing one of my site. and its the same case, to better convince you the problem , I gave the yahoo example10:48
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n4chtphobiac: i wish i knew how to fix that.  then the wife would stop nagging me to buy her a new laptop.  i just built her a new desktop a couple months ago for her bday.10:48
phobiacn4cht: Any suggestions for what I can try? I'm going to boot a live CD tomorrow and see if the keyboard itself is just messed up.10:48
phobiacn4cht: Nice bday present :D10:48
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n4chtphobiac: i'm really not sure.   i've never owned a laptop myself, so to be honest, my knowledge of laptops is very little.10:49
n4chti think i've checked gmail once on my wife's laptop.10:49
phobiacn4cht: Oh well, thank you anyway.10:49
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nidaln4cht, actually one of our customers are complaining this , they are using telnet command to retrieve the content for some application and its working with other websites and not working with mine.10:50
n4chti really need to get off my butt and start posting on craigslist about custom linux desktop PCs.   free advertising is the only way to go until i get my small business grant or start making money at it.10:50
phobiacThis dang laptop has been nothing but trouble from the start. First windows crapped out on me, so I migrated to linux. Then the frame, then recently issues while I was moving some partitions that forced me to reinstall linux (saved my important stuff though, seperate /home partition ftw), and now this10:51
phobiacNot to mention the number of problems I cause from messing around with it, but those were all on me. Beryl was fun to get working though.10:52
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cox377!kwrapper10:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:53
void_what's the f12 button for?10:53
cox377does anyone know what kwrapper about10:53
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n4chtbrb10:53
nomad111!java10:54
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository10:54
phobiacnomad11: Java issues?10:54
phobiacEh, gotta go10:55
pointfivezerojava work in x86_64?10:56
pointfivezeroor is the only option using automatix2?10:56
pointfivezerofor the 32bit version10:56
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nidaln4cht, can you suggest me anything ? when I give the same url in thr browser its coming up10:59
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void_alright11:00
void_rebooting so I can run beryl11:00
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Dunpealstet11:02
Dunpealeconthrust11:02
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fudgeyhey guys11:06
fudgeyanyone use wine?11:06
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fudgeyanyone use wine?11:06
fudgeyim trying to make the program load from the cd11:07
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fudgeyanyone use wine?11:08
fudgeyim trying to make the program load from the cd11:08
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SolidSourceopen the cd, right click, "open with..." >> Wine11:08
fudgeyno11:08
pointfivezeroyou have to set up the device first11:09
fudgeythe program is installed11:09
fudgeybut requires the cd to load11:09
pointfivezerouse #winecfg11:09
pointfivezero(not channel, but set up your cdrom)11:09
fudgeyyeah I knwo haha11:09
pointfivezerook11:09
fudgeyadd a d drive?11:09
pointfivezeroyeah11:09
fudgeyhmm11:10
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fudgeywhen I change it it always goes back11:10
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fudgeylike it doesnt save11:10
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fudgeydo I need sudo before the winecfg?11:10
fudgeywait nvm im in root11:10
pointfivezerooh11:10
fudgeyYES!11:10
fudgeyit worked!11:10
pointfivezeroexit out of sudo11:10
crazy_busWhat is the name of the metapackage of kde compiling type tools?11:10
pointfivezero!11:10
fudgeyfor example11:11
fudgeyhave you played starcraft?11:11
Jucatocrazy_bus: what?11:11
froudis it possible to setup sane to scan from an HP network connected all in one device?11:11
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pointfivezerofudgey: you can copy the using the dd command11:11
crazy_busI remember downloading a package like build-essential but kde compiling/building tools instead11:11
fudgeydd?11:11
pointfivezeroit helps for multidsc installs11:12
pointfivezerowinehq.org11:12
pointfivezeroman dd11:12
pointfivezero!dd11:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:12
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Jucatocrazy_bus: build-essential installs the compiler and tools you need for compiling. kde-devel installs the headers and libraries you need to compile kde apps11:12
crazy_busthanks11:12
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fudgeyhmm11:14
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fudgeythanks11:14
pointfivezerowell11:14
fudgeywait11:14
fudgeyhave you played starcraft?11:15
fudgeyor any blizzard game?11:15
pointfivezeroyep, many moons ago11:15
pointfivezeroyeah I have diable II installed on here11:15
fudgeyyou knwo you need the cd to play?11:15
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pointfivezeroyeah, use a nocd patch aye11:15
fudgeywhat if there is nun?11:15
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fudgeyand its like another program11:15
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pointfivezeroerm, does the cd work ?11:16
whiz2_ok I've made a little progress, but I've reached another obstacle11:16
fudgeycd works11:16
Eltranhello11:16
EltranI have a problem while I'm compiling LMMS11:16
fudgeyim trying to install some kind of server tool11:16
EltranI always get this message when I try make11:16
Eltranplugins/organic/Makefile.am:29: Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined11:16
fudgeythat requires a cd to run11:16
fudgeybut it cant find the cd11:16
Eltranwhat can I do pls11:16
EltranThe usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL'11:17
whiz2_trying to get vncserver to run as my user (not as root) on boot. have made a script that runs vncserver on boot, and put that script into /etc/init.d then made it executable, but it still runs it as root.11:17
pointfivezerohmm11:17
whiz2_is there a way to make it run as my user without stopping to prompt for a password?11:17
fudgeyits like trying to run starcraft without a cd11:17
fudgeyno cd patch11:17
pointfivezeroah, you need the cd to start off with aye11:18
fudgeyyeah11:18
fudgeyI ment without the no cd patch11:18
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fudgeyahh nvm11:19
fudgeyits like trying to fix wine11:19
fudgeyhaha11:19
fudgeyif your a developer than yeah...11:20
whiz2_can anyone help me here?11:20
MuJwhich reminds me..11:20
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pointfivezerotry http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5111:20
MuJgotta be ready for lanparty ;)11:20
fudgeyhl?11:20
fudgeyhalflife?11:21
fudgeyLOL11:21
whiz2_I've found where to put the script. I just need to know the syntax for makng the program run asme without stopping the boot process to request a password from the local keyboard11:21
MuJyes.. my friends play natural selection :|11:21
fudgeytry hl211:21
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fudgeyI play ep 111:21
MuJnah.. I don't play games11:21
fudgey=)11:21
Eltranhl2 sucks11:21
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fudgeyNO!11:21
fudgeyyou just did not say that!11:21
pointfivezeroofftopic no11:21
fudgeyofftopic hellz yes!11:21
fudgey-D11:21
EltranYAI OFFTOPIC11:21
fudgey=D11:21
fudgeyyou11:22
fudgeyhypocrite!11:22
fudgeyhypot11:22
Eltranlol but can ya help meh to solve my problem ?11:22
fudgeyyou should repost11:22
fudgeyhaha11:22
EltranI always get this error when I try make : Libtool library used but `LIBTOOL' is undefined  The usual way to define `LIBTOOL' is to add `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' to `configure.in' and run `aclocal' and `autoconf' again.11:22
pointfivezerothe make issue?11:22
whiz2_I guess no one knows the command?11:23
Eltranbut the problem is... AC_PROG_LIBTOOL is already in configure.in11:23
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Eltranbut when I did configure, I saw that : ./configure: line 4454: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL: command not found11:23
premier_where does firefox keep its plugins?  I need to get rid of some of theme11:23
EltranI have libtool installed, how can I define it ?11:24
SolidSourcepremier_: depends, but usually /home/USER/.mozilla/firefox11:24
fudgeypremier_ /usr/share/firefox11:24
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premier_mplayer appears to be the only plugin that actually plays media, and the rest just interfere, but I can neither find nor disable the rest (totem, in particular)11:26
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premier_yeah, their not there11:26
whiz2_nobody likes me!11:27
whiz2_:-p11:27
pointfivezerowhiz2_: su -c $user -c $command11:28
pointfivezerooops11:28
pointfivezerowhiz2_: su -l $user -c $command11:28
pointfivezeromight work if the user has an empty password?11:28
whiz2_the user has a set password11:29
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jukais there a DOWNLOAD LIMITER for linux? something like net-limiter in windows11:32
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ninniuzhi I updated to feisty and I experienced something odd with knetworkmanager11:34
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ninniuzusing kwifimanager to get wireless access11:34
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SolidSourceand?11:35
ninniuzand when knetworkmanager is up as well even though not using it I cannot get web pages nor check mail with kmail11:35
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ninniuzhad to close it and everything works fine11:36
ninniuzany explanation for this behaviour?11:36
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SolidSourcewell it is still only in development...so its probably something they haven't fixed11:37
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spikehKubuntu 6.10 Edgy liveCD refuses to start any applications, including the installation script11:37
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SuPrem0hi11:38
spikehcould this be related to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"11:38
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SuPrem0my kubuntu not start in my notebook travelmate 21011:39
SuPrem0why this????11:39
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pointfivezeroI have a question about kdevelop (tried there, no reply - yet): how do I set up the correct documentation for kdelibs etc?11:44
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crazy_busI'm trying to compile kaffeine but I'm getting this error.  What should I do? configure: error: could not find cdparanoia headers11:53
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Jucato!info libcdparanoia0-dev | crazy_bus11:54
ubotucrazy_bus: libcdparanoia0-dev: Shared libraries for cdparanoia (development files). In component main, is optional. Version 3a9.8-13 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 152 kB11:54
Jucatocrazy_bus: here's a clue. when configure complains about not being able to find foo headers (foo stands for anything), try looking for a foo-dev package11:54
pointfivezero!info kdevelop11:55
ubotukdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB11:55
pointfivezero!info kdevelop-doc11:55
ubotukdevelop-doc: An IDE for Unix/X11 - documentation. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2410 kB, installed size 3080 kB11:55
Jucato!info kdelibs4-doc | pointfivezero11:55
ubotupointfivezero: kdelibs4-doc: developer documentation for the KDE core libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 39044 kB, installed size 325340 kB11:55
crazy_busthanks.  I just thought that I had all packages since I installed build-essential and kde-devel11:55
Jucatopointfivezero: I'm still installing it now if it will install the KDE API reference in Kdevelop documentation11:55
Jucatocrazy_bus: of course not. :)11:55
pointfivezerojucato: it was a doxyden index in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs/ :)11:56
Jucatocrazy_bus: build-essential - compiling tools; kde-devel - basic headers to compile basic kde apps11:56
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pointfivezerojucato: it also didn't install htdig when I choose to install the kdelibs4-doc11:58
Jucatopointfivezero: it really won't. htdig is a separate package, nothing to do with it11:58
Jucatowhy it's not installed by default? sure as hell puzzles me11:58
pointfivezerohow does it search documentation otherwise :s11:59
=== Jucato wonders what's taking the kdelibs4-doc download so long... :(
pointfivezerois there a shortcut key to start the default text editor?12:01
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fudgeyhey12:01
Jucatopointfivezero: none. but you can make your own12:01
pointfivezerousing kmenuedit? will do :)12:01
Jucatopointfivezero: right-click on Kate in the K Menu -> Edit this item ->12:01
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fudgeyis it possible to run gdm without a graphics card in the configuration because I dont know what card im using and its not detected...12:02
fudgey???12:03
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peibolhola a todos12:03
fudgeyhallo12:03
peiboltengo una duda rapida sobre la administracion de usuarios12:03
fudgeyadmin12:03
peibola ver si alguien puede ayudarme....12:03
Jucatopeibol: english please12:03