| Ubugtu | New bug: #86145 in launchpad "Sprints page should not have context title or tabs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86145 | 12:25 |
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| cprov | does anyone know why librarian is failing ? | 01:33 |
| LaserJock | oh cprov, you got a sec for a issue with the Maintainer: field creating teams? | 01:41 |
| cprov | LaserJock: yes | 01:42 |
| spiv | cprov: in production, or in development? | 01:42 |
| cprov | spiv: production | 01:42 |
| spiv | cprov: ! | 01:43 |
| spiv | cprov: where can I see the error? | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | cprov: we are implementing a spec in Ubuntu (you might know something about it) where packages changed by Ubuntu are going to have the existing Debian Maintainer: replaced with an Ubuntu one | 01:43 |
| cprov | LaserJock: AFAIK, Maintainer field creates new person, already. | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | cprov: thats the problem | 01:43 |
| cprov | spiv: lp-error ML ? | 01:43 |
| spiv | cprov: ta | 01:44 |
| LaserJock | we already have mailing lists and teams for the values in the Maintainer field | 01:44 |
| cprov | LaserJock: I see, can't you transform a person in a team ? | 01:44 |
| LaserJock | but they aren't linked because we don't need every LP email for that team going to our mailing list | 01:45 |
| cprov | LaserJock: how could we find out an email is supposed to be a team, not a person ? | 01:45 |
| cprov | LaserJock: just speculating ... | 01:45 |
| LaserJock | well, it doesn't really matter in this case so much if it's a team or person | 01:45 |
| LaserJock | the issue is that I'm not sure if we want to associate the ML with the LP team | 01:46 |
| LaserJock | so LP created a team for us | 01:46 |
| LaserJock | or rather person ( I think) | 01:46 |
| LaserJock | but it's bogus | 01:46 |
| ajmitch | pretty sure it's a person | 01:47 |
| spiv | cprov: I don't have access to the relevant logfile, I've pinged the admkins. | 01:47 |
| spiv | admins, rather. | 01:47 |
| LaserJock | cprov: so, for example, https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gem/ has Maintainer point to ~ubuntu-motu | 01:47 |
| LaserJock | cprov: when it really should point to ~ubuntu-dev | 01:47 |
| cprov | spiv: thanks, it seems to fail in both WR & RD | 01:47 |
| cprov | LaserJock: isn't -ubuntu-motu IN -ubuntu-dev ? | 01:48 |
| LaserJock | no | 01:49 |
| LaserJock | ~ubuntu-motu was created on an upload | 01:50 |
| LaserJock | because the address is ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com I presume | 01:50 |
| cprov | LaserJock: yes, that was it | 01:50 |
| cprov | LaserJock: what should we do in this case ? (I'm slow here, hot Sunday night) | 01:51 |
| LaserJock | cprov: well, I'm not exactly sure | 01:51 |
| LaserJock | it'd be nice if LP associated ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com with ~ubuntu-dev | 01:52 |
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| LaserJock | without having it be the contact address | 01:52 |
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| cprov | LaserJock: hard to find out how ... | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | well, I figured it would be a corner, Ubuntu-specific, case | 01:54 |
| LaserJock | btw, ~ubuntu-devel-discuss has the same issue for ~ubuntu-core-dev | 01:54 |
| spiv | cprov: no sysadmins around, and lifeless doesn't have access | 01:54 |
| spiv | cprov: is this breaking package uploads? | 01:54 |
| cprov | LaserJock: maybe we could configure some types of messages that should be bounced to some other team (if it doesn't sound too insane as I think now) | 01:55 |
| cprov | spiv: yes, some uploads and some publishing runs | 01:55 |
| LaserJock | cprov: the only solution I saw was to set the ML address as the contact address, which is less than ideal | 01:56 |
| spiv | cprov: ok, I'd ring the admins. That sounds like an urgent problem to me. | 01:56 |
| cprov | cprov: 1 AM london, no ? | 01:56 |
| spiv | cprov: Yeah, but it's urgent. Perhaps try stub instead if you like. | 01:57 |
| cprov | LaserJock: yes, it should work for some messages (upload announcement, for instance) but maybe not for others. dunno. | 01:57 |
| cprov | spiv: yes, sounds like a better idea. | 01:58 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #86166 in launchpad-bazaar "reverse dns for importer should indicate what it is" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86166 | 02:06 |
| cprov | spiv: Stuart will be online in a bit, thanks for helping. | 02:18 |
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| spiv | stub: hi | 02:19 |
| stub | yo | 02:19 |
| spiv | stub: I guess we should make the librarian use the OOPS infrastructure so you don't get woken up ;) | 02:19 |
| stub | heh | 02:20 |
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| spiv | stub: any idea why it's broken? finally run out of diskspace? | 02:20 |
| stub | Box is idle and only 20% disk in use | 02:23 |
| stub | Over 1800 log files though... | 02:24 |
| cprov | stub: Hi and sorry again :( . So buildd cronscripts failures don't tell us much apart of the "500 Internal server error". What does librarian log say ? | 02:24 |
| cprov | stub: librarian logs might be pretty noisy, I guess. | 02:25 |
| stub | https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileLUKIfx.html | 02:25 |
| stub | Anything you can think of I should check before bouncing it? | 02:27 |
| cprov | stub: weird ... maybe spiv has a clue. | 02:27 |
| stub | spiv: I would suspect the 'update last_accessed' date code, as it was most recently added. Perhaps a DB exception happened and cleanup not done properly? | 02:28 |
| stub | I've bouned the librarian. I expect everything will run smoothly again, for a while at least. | 02:29 |
| stub | I need a new 'c' key | 02:29 |
| cprov | stub: I'm running the publisher again manually. Things looks sane now. | 02:34 |
| cprov | stub: critical path is gone, librarian performed well this time. | 02:35 |
| cprov | stub: Thanks for now. | 02:35 |
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| spiv | stub: weird. | 02:39 |
| lifeless | stub: is librarian configured for dba access, or 'stub' ? | 02:39 |
| spiv | stub: bouncing is the best I can think of for that. | 02:39 |
| spiv | stub: I guess somehow the "zopeless" transaction machinery got stuck in an inconsistent state, but it's weird that we've never seen it before. | 02:40 |
| stub | lifeless: No idea - I can't see the sudoers file | 02:41 |
| stub | Should be dba | 02:41 |
| lifeless | stub: I tried to login to look for cprov, but couldn't | 02:42 |
| stub | File an rt request then - you should have access | 02:42 |
| stub | (I thought spiv had access too?) | 02:42 |
| spiv | stub: apparently not | 02:42 |
| spiv | I'm sure I did back in the mists of time. | 02:42 |
| stub | Lucky I do then :) | 02:42 |
| lifeless | should he? I can put it in the same rt request | 02:43 |
| spiv | Probably before the librarian moved hosts. | 02:43 |
| stub | 2 people + sysadmins should be enough | 02:44 |
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| spiv | I'm happy to not touch production systems ;) | 02:44 |
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| stub | spiv: Are you able to look at the critical bit of Bug 86171? It should be a trivial tweak if twisted doesn't get in the way. | 02:50 |
| Ubugtu | Bug 86171 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/86171 is private | 02:50 |
| cprov | stub: Ah, almost forgot about it ... Could you provide a new production DB snapshot for mawson (dogfood) ? | 02:53 |
| stub | cprov: I'll try and kick it off later. Holiday today :) | 02:53 |
| stub | Right now I'm finishing some emails then back to bed (like you should be!) | 02:54 |
| cprov | stub: uhm, double sorry then :(. It'd be nice tomorrow, but not later, otherwise we will be blocked at sprint. | 02:54 |
| stub | Should be ready when you wake up | 02:54 |
| cprov | stub: very good, you're a star ! | 02:55 |
| spiv | stub: looking now | 02:59 |
| stub | The trigger must have been the librarian garbage collector, so I'll switch that off for the time being | 03:00 |
| spiv | stub: ah. Yes, I think I can do that. | 03:00 |
| stub | Might need a quick think through the logic to see what isolation level is actually needed - probably READ COMMITTED. Autocommit might work too and fix robustness issues at the same time. | 03:01 |
| stub | ok - I'm off | 03:04 |
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| spiv | stub: thanks | 03:10 |
| stub | lifeless: You asked for macaroni access, not mizuho | 03:18 |
| spiv | stub: oh, that'd be my fault | 03:20 |
| spiv | stub: I looked at the "production" config, I should have looked at "production1". | 03:20 |
| spiv | Ah, and I do have access to that. | 03:21 |
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| pochu | anybody around? | 03:25 |
| pochu | I have a question: is it possible to change the owner of a team? | 03:25 |
| pochu | I mean, the owner can step down and set up another owner? | 03:26 |
| pochu | and if it's possible, how can it be done? | 03:26 |
| spiv | pochu: I think so | 03:26 |
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| pochu | ty :) | 03:27 |
| lifeless | yup, visit +edit IIRC | 03:27 |
| pochu | lifeless: thanks :) | 03:28 |
| spiv | pochu: I think the owner will have a "Change Owner" link they can use. | 03:28 |
| spiv | Hmm, or maybe it is just in +edit. | 03:28 |
| spiv | pochu: I'm sure it's somewhere, anyway :) | 03:28 |
| pochu | :) | 03:29 |
| pochu | I didn't know if that would be possible. I thought yes, but wasn't sure :) | 03:29 |
| pochu | so thanks! | 03:29 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #86185 in launchpad "Librarian "500 Internal server error"s (when uploading) should generate an OOPS, and include the OOPS code in the error to the client." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86185 | 03:55 |
| cprov-ZzZ | spiv: just for the record, librarian continues to fail, same reason. | 04:22 |
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| spiv | cprov-ZzZ: ! | 04:24 |
| spiv | cprov-ZzZ: thanks for letting me know | 04:24 |
| spiv | cprov-ZzZ: I'll take a look. Have a good sleep | 04:24 |
| spiv | cprov-ZzZ: I've bounced it again :( | 04:30 |
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| jml | what's the most helpful status to use when re-opening a bug? Unconfirmed? | 05:43 |
| mpt | jml, whichever was the previous status, I think | 05:52 |
| mpt | (unless that was Fix Somethinged) | 05:53 |
| jml | mpt: thanks. | 05:54 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #52780 in launchpad-bazaar "We need to return a user-friendly message when someone tries to register a branch with a invalid URL." [High,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52780 | 05:55 |
| jml | mpt: umm... pay no attention to the bug status behind the curtin :) | 05:57 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #86210 in launchpad-bazaar "branch name sort should be version-aware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86210 | 08:05 |
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| doko | we had a package launchpad-build-dependencies in the past, is this package still available? or could somebody tell me the current lp build and runtime dependencies? | 09:23 |
| spiv | doko: https://launchpad.canonical.com/RocketFuelSetup | 09:28 |
| doko | thanks! | 09:28 |
| spiv | doko: that page mentions the apt repo with the launchpad-developer-dependencies package. | 09:28 |
| doko | spiv: is the python-sqlite still needed, or can it be updated to python-sqlite2? | 09:40 |
| spiv | I can't remember what that's used for. | 09:41 |
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| spiv | doko: with a quick grep, I can't see any reason for sqlite, but there might be something I'm forgetting. Ask the launchpad@ list? | 09:45 |
| doko | ok, will do | 09:45 |
| lifeless | scvs | 09:45 |
| lifeless | *cscvs* | 09:46 |
| spiv | Ah. | 09:46 |
| lifeless | ask ddaa | 09:46 |
| spiv | lifeless: thanks | 09:46 |
| doko | ddaa: ^^^ | 09:47 |
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| ddaa | doko: yes | 10:00 |
| ddaa | but lifeless wrote the code, so HE knows better | 10:00 |
| ddaa | cscvs uses python-sqlite | 10:00 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #86222 in launchpad-bazaar "codebrowse needs a robots.txt" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86222 | 10:25 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #49173 in launchpad-bazaar "supermirror branch puller bails out on failed sftp connection" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49173 | 10:35 |
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| lifeless | spiv: can I ask a favour? I'm rushing to get this patch landed before john gets up | 10:48 |
| lifeless | spiv: can you run the reviewers meeting? My points are: I've not gotten to the promised meeting split, and I cross my heart will for next week, now that dirstate is over the hump. | 10:48 |
| spiv | lifeless: ok | 10:59 |
| spiv | Review meeting in, uh, 0 minutes! | 11:00 |
| spiv | REVIEW MEETING TIME | 11:00 |
| spiv | BjornT, SteveA: ping | 11:00 |
| BjornT | hi | 11:01 |
| spiv | lifeless has sent his apologies, as you can see above :) | 11:01 |
| spiv | == Agenda == | 11:02 |
| spiv | * Roll call | 11:02 |
| spiv | * Next meeting | 11:02 |
| spiv | * Queue status. | 11:02 |
| spiv | * Roll call | 11:02 |
| spiv | So far just me and Bjorn! | 11:02 |
| spiv | SteveA is apparently in the channel, lifeless apologises, and the others are absent. | 11:03 |
| spiv | * Next meeting | 11:03 |
| spiv | From lifeless: "== Agenda == | 11:03 |
| spiv | * Roll call | 11:03 |
| spiv | * Next meeting | 11:03 |
| spiv | D'oh. | 11:03 |
| spiv | From lifeless: "I've not gotten to the promised meeting split, and I cross my heart will for next week" | 11:04 |
| SteveA | hi spiv | 11:04 |
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| spiv | SteveA: hi | 11:04 |
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| spiv | ACTION ITEM: lifeless to split meeting, and announce times via email | 11:04 |
| spiv | * Queue status | 11:05 |
| spiv | The queue is the shortest I've seen for weeks. | 11:05 |
| spiv | SteveA has a 20 day old branch in his queue. | 11:05 |
| spiv | salgado has a 9 day old one, but it has conflicts. | 11:06 |
| spiv | BjornT has a 6 day old one, but it also has conflicts. | 11:06 |
| spiv | And everything else is within the desired time limit | 11:06 |
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| BjornT | i'm reviewing that branch atm. the conflicts are trivial. | 11:06 |
| spiv | So either the developers are slowing down, or we're speeding up ;) | 11:07 |
| spiv | Well done to the reviewers. | 11:07 |
| spiv | SteveA: what's going on with tim/launchpad/redirection-navigation? | 11:07 |
| SteveA | spiv: I reviewed most of it and talked with tim about it | 11:08 |
| SteveA | I just need to finish it off | 11:09 |
| spiv | Ok, so that one isn't quite as dire as the pending-reviews page status suggests, although it still needs attention. | 11:09 |
| spiv | I'll keep encouraging Tim to nag you ;) | 11:10 |
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| spiv | * Other business? | 11:10 |
| spiv | There are no proposed items. | 11:10 |
| BjornT | no other business from me | 11:11 |
| spiv | None from me either. | 11:11 |
| spiv | And Steve typically says by now if he wants to add something to the agenda :) | 11:12 |
| spiv | Countdown: | 11:12 |
| spiv | V | 11:12 |
| spiv | IV | 11:12 |
| spiv | III | 11:12 |
| spiv | II | 11:12 |
| spiv | I | 11:12 |
| spiv | (what's roman for 0?) | 11:12 |
| spiv | MEETING ENDS | 11:12 |
| spiv | Thanks everyone. | 11:12 |
| BjornT | thanks spiv | 11:13 |
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| sabdfl | spiv: Rome never invented the zero, i think that was an Arabian concept that kicked in a couple centuries later | 11:30 |
| sabdfl | rather useful, too | 11:30 |
| cprov-ZzZ | spiv: thanks, the last librarian restart has fixed the problems. | 11:31 |
| spiv | cprov-ZzZ: that was stub's doing, in fact, so thank him :0 | 11:34 |
| spiv | er, :) | 11:34 |
| spiv | sabdfl: very useful | 11:34 |
| spiv | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals#Zero | 11:35 |
| spiv | cprov-ZzZ: there are about three seperate bugs contributing to this problem, I think. | 11:35 |
| spiv | cprov-ZzZ: I have a patch that should fix the one where it gets stuck in a broken state | 11:36 |
| spiv | Which is the most serious. | 11:36 |
| spiv | Ah, dinner is ready... | 11:36 |
| cprov-ZzZ | spiv: what is it ? zopeless tm ? | 11:36 |
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| cprov | good morning ! | 12:20 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #86253 in launchpad "Registration in LP should not automatically create an Ubuntu WikiName" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86253 | 12:50 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #86255 in malone "feisty-desktop-i386/amd64 (herd 4) livecd boot fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86255 | 01:05 |
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| Yannig | Hello everybody :) | 03:11 |
| Yannig | Last time, I explained that OpenOffice was not in Occitan on my system (contrary to the other programs) and someone explained me that I had to recompile it but I cannot remember how :( | 03:12 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #86299 in launchpad "pagetests.gpg-coc prompts for passphrase when run under gpg-agent" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86299 | 04:45 |
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| TheDemonInside | Hello, shame on me, I have forgotten my launchpad email address. | 06:47 |
| jamesh | TheDemonInside: do you know your launchpad user name? | 06:49 |
| TheDemonInside | TheDemonInside | 06:49 |
| TheDemonInside | Urm... | 06:51 |
| TheDemonInside | jamesh: I need some sleep... | 06:51 |
| TheDemonInside | ...sorry. | 06:51 |
| jamesh | launchpad user names are lower case alphanumeric names, so it wouldn't be TheDemonInside | 06:52 |
| TheDemonInside | Yes, I see that I never finished registration process. | 06:52 |
| TheDemonInside | I'm really sorry. | 06:53 |
| jamesh | no problem | 06:53 |
| jamesh | if you finish the registration process, your account should be created | 06:53 |
| TheDemonInside | Yes, I have looked in my spamfilter once again and THERE is the mail for finishing it. | 06:54 |
| TheDemonInside | I thought I did it and wondered why I can't login. ;) | 06:54 |
| TheDemonInside | Thanks for your patience. | 06:55 |
| TheDemonInside | Bye. | 06:55 |
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| ddaa | bug numbers are starting to be awkwardly long... | 08:11 |
| ddaa | anybody knows of an algorithm to translate numbers into pronounceable, but random-looking sequences of letters? | 08:12 |
| ddaa | I guess something involving trigraphs probabilities, but deterministic... | 08:13 |
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| markvandenborre | we have a .pot in Rosetta (uploaded ourselves through the web interface) | 08:21 |
| markvandenborre | if I understood danilos correctly last week, | 08:21 |
| markvandenborre | it should be possible to update that one by just uploading another .pot to replace it | 08:21 |
| markvandenborre | and that process should happen manually | 08:22 |
| jamesh | you mean automatically, right? | 08:22 |
| markvandenborre | err, yes | 08:22 |
| markvandenborre | we manually upload it using https://translations.launchpad.net/support.points.map/trunk/+pots/support.points.map/+upload | 08:23 |
| jamesh | markvandenborre: danilo is currently on holiday, and carlos won't be around til tomorrow morning (he has a bit of jetlag | 08:23 |
| markvandenborre | and it gets accepted automagically | 08:23 |
| jamesh | markvandenborre: so if this is a difficult problem, you may have to wait a day for an answer | 08:23 |
| markvandenborre | heh, I just guessed it was something really stupid we overlooked ourselves | 08:24 |
| markvandenborre | but if I understand correctly, there's noone around who can make any suggestions on that right now? | 08:25 |
| jamesh | so has the import not been processed? | 08:25 |
| jamesh | (you haven't actually stated the problem yet) | 08:25 |
| markvandenborre | https://launchpad.net/translations/imports/+index?target=products&status=all&type=all&start=150&batch=75 | 08:26 |
| markvandenborre | -> it is marked as "needs review" there | 08:26 |
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| markvandenborre | which is somewhat surprising comparing to what danilo said | 08:27 |
| jamesh | markvandenborre: the filename "messages.po" looks weird | 08:29 |
| jamesh | I'd expect something like "support.points.map.pot" | 08:29 |
| markvandenborre | actually, it was renamed to end in .pot | 08:30 |
| markvandenborre | (but not "support.points.map.pot") | 08:30 |
| markvandenborre | should I try to name it like that and upload again? | 08:30 |
| jamesh | markvandenborre: since it is in the import queue, I wouldn't | 08:30 |
| jamesh | markvandenborre: if it is not urgent, I'd try and get hold of carlos tomorrow | 08:31 |
| jamesh | he works on European time | 08:31 |
| markvandenborre | ok, thx for the help! | 08:32 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #86352 in malone "SchoolTool imported bugs have invalid subscribers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86352 | 08:50 |
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| mpt | Goooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 09:01 |
| sabdfl | well that was brief but exciting | 09:03 |
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| phanatic | is it possible to ask for a manual ubuntu mirror verification? | 09:08 |
| sabdfl | not sure, salgado wrote that code but it's carnival in Brazil so he'll likely be away this week | 09:11 |
| sabdfl | ping him if you see him online | 09:11 |
| sabdfl | i think it's a good idea, though, to be able to request it for a specific mirror and get emailed the resulting analysis | 09:11 |
| sabdfl | or just to be able to subscribe to a mirror and get emailed it every time we do it | 09:11 |
| phanatic | sabdfl: thanks, i'll ping him when i see him | 09:12 |
| phanatic | shall i file a support ticket or a feature request regarding this? | 09:12 |
| lifeless | the mirror stuff is largely admin centric at the moment, so I think making a feature request would be a good idea | 09:27 |
| lifeless | because we clearly dont want to dos a mirror just because some random people decide they want to ask for 100's of verifications | 09:28 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #86361 in malone "Search for duplicate and similar bugs on +filebug sometimes timeout" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86361 | 09:36 |
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