[12:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86140 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "no sound" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86140
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86141 in Ubuntu "Partioner from OEM install buggy. Can't install from livecd because of qtparted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86141
[12:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86143 in gcx (universe) "GCX Crash On Star Select...Measure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86143
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86142 in epiphany-browser (main) "Jerky rendering in Epiphany (herd4)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86142
[12:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86146 in Ubuntu "Installer crashed (6.06)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86146
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86144 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Intel 80821 Soundcard doesn't work with linux-headers-2.6.17-11" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86144
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86147 in Ubuntu "inconsistent behavior with middle-click scrollbar dragging" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86147
[12:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86148 in gedit-plugins (universe) "Cannot load Python plugin for 'External Tools' 'Python Console' and 'Snippets' in amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86148
[12:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86149 in Ubuntu "wlan chip rtl8185 don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86149
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86150 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86150
[12:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86151 in Ubuntu "drummer sound in gdm always on" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86151
[12:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86152 in Ubuntu "wrong detection of mobile P4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86152
[01:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86153 in rkhunter (universe) "rkhunter complains about files shipped by Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86153
[01:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86154 in php-imlib (universe) "Unmet deps [Feisty] " [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86154
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86155 in Ubuntu "smb browsing only shows my notebook in windows net" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86155
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86156 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kernel 2.6.20-8 cannot mount SATA root on ASUS P5B VM" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86156
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86157 in rhythmbox (main) "Program didn't crash but ubuntu told me it did" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86157
[01:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86158 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes while opening mininova.org" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86158
[01:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86159 in spe (universe) "unexpected termination while running" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86159
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86160 in xscreensaver (main) "xscreensaver causes kernel panic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86160
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86161 in vim (main) "tried to update to feisty from edgy and vim-tiny did not update due to circular? dependancies " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86161
[01:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86163 in apt (main) "default from apt-get to aptitude" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86163
[01:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86162 in gnome-desktop (main) "Desktop halts loading when startup sound is played" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86162
[02:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86164 in ogle (universe) "Ogle crashes when attempting DVD play" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86164
[02:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86165 in postgresql-8.1 (universe) "/usr/lib/postgresql/8/1/lib/plpython.so is built against Python 2.5, which crashes postgres" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86165
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86169 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kernel panic acpi related" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86169
[02:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86167 in Ubuntu "Installer Crashed when installing - delete entire drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86167
[02:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86168 in kdelibs (main) "kded crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86168
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86170 in python-imaging (main) "im.show() does not work because the system cannot find the program "xv"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86170
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86172 in dbus (main) "Unable to open the session message bus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86172
[03:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86174 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-gtk crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86174
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86173 in gnomad2 (universe) "gnomad2 crashed while creating playlist" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86173
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86175 in Ubuntu "Error message cut off during installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86175
[03:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86176 in ubiquity (main) "uiquity crashes when installing grub (kubuntu feisty herd4)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86176
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86177 in Ubuntu "IBM mouse scroll wheel too sensitive and horizonal scroll does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86177
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86178 in evolution-exchange (main) "[apport]  evolution-exchange-storage crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86178
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86179 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim crashed with SIGSEGV in _int_malloc()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86179
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86180 in beryl-manager (universe) "Beryl eating a lot of memory and crashing after editing a pixmap theme" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86180
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86181 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86181
[03:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86182 in evolution-exchange (main) "No exchange settings anywhere " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86182
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86183 in Ubuntu "ipw2200 uninitialized at boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86183
[03:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86184 in compiz (universe) "Can't change cursor style using Compiz in Feisty." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86184
[04:02] <Hobbsee> bug 85048
[04:02] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85048 in tinyca "rovoked certificates are shown as valid" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85048
[04:02] <Hobbsee> kde bug 85048
[04:02] <Ubugtu> KDE bug 85048 in general "calendar day-picker tries to show two months at once" [Minor,New]  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85048
[04:03] <Hobbsee> bug 85948
[04:03] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85948 in konversation "ctrl-,/. shortcut not working in konversation" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85948
[04:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86186 in network-manager (main) "Clicking on already-selected Wired Network causes disconnect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86186
[04:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86187 in kq (universe) "Please sync kq (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86187
[04:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86188 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86188
[04:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86189 in firefox (main) "Crash on changing file name for upload" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86189
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86190 in firebird2 (universe) "firebird2 fb_lock_mgr program crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86190
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86191 in hal (main) "HAL Device Manager is hard to use" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86191
[05:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86193 in control-center (main) "[apport]  gnome-about-me crashed with SIGSEGV in g_io_channel_shutdown()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86193
[05:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86192 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "New Feisty nvidia-glx upgrade causes glitches and artifacts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86192
[05:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86194 in Ubuntu "HAL device manager does not produce portable output" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86194
[05:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86197 in gimp (main) "Gimp crash on startup (hang on xsane)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86197
[05:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86196 in totem (main) "[Feisty]  Firefox crashes with content that runs totem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86196
[05:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86198 in Ubuntu "package update errors afer fresh install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86198
[05:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86199 in gaim (main) "[apport]  gaim-url-handler crashed with DBusException in __call__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86199
[05:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86201 in sound-juicer (main) "Open random and information It's not correct" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86201
[05:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86200 in soundconverter (universe) "Delete, add files, wrong file count" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86200
[06:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86202 in ubiquity (main) "Ubiquity gives no help when already have four primary partitions defined" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86202
[06:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86203 in rcalc (universe) "[apport]  rcalc-term crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86203
[07:19] <TheMuso> c
[07:19] <TheMuso> c
[07:19] <TheMuso> bah
[07:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86204 in Ubuntu "Error with cdrom ide driver, Fiesty live cd, herd4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86204
[07:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86205 in ubiquity (main) "Install crashes using USB drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86205
[07:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86206 in Ubuntu "Emerald crashed as k3b verified written data" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86206
[07:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86207 in totem (main) "Video window cannot be resized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86207
[08:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86208 in totem (main) "Herd 4 Wont download 3gp, wmv and dat video plugins automatically" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86208
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86209 in eclipse (universe) "the "Next" button in wizards, not the "Finish" button, should be default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86209
[08:27] <rryan> anyone know why apache2 tends to shutdown every few days on multiple 6.10 machines I have? They all have pretty simple configs, nothing more than mod_php (running something like mediawiki) or FCGI serving python scripts
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86211 in ubiquity (main) "Install crashed - Error Report" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86211
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86212 in smokeping (universe) "/etc/init.d/smokeping does not create /var/run/smokeping" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86212
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86213 in Ubuntu "In Feisty the first alt-f2 after booting doesn't bring up run dialog, requires a repetition." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86213
[08:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86215 in gnome-app-install (main) "[apport]  gnome-app-install crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in description()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86215
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86214 in gnome-system-tools (main) "[apport]  network-admin crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_accel_group_disconnect()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86214
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86216 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-gtk crashed with OSError in _execute_child()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86216
[09:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86217 in Ubuntu "tv tuner card with saa7134 not detected automatically" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86217
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86218 in openoffice.org (main) "/usr/share/applications/ooo-writer.desktop contains invalidness" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86218
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86219 in software-properties (main) "deb-src not updated properly when server is changed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86219
[09:37] <coNP> hello mvo, can you tell me if gnome-app-install will now auto-install recommends by default?
[09:39] <coNP> (bug 75026)
[09:39] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75026 in gnome-app-install "gnome-app-install needs to install recommends" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75026
[09:39] <cowbud> anyone want to clue me in on what the best way is to pick which bug should be the parent of all duplicates?
[09:40] <coNP> cowbud: the one that is the "best" :)
[09:40] <cowbud> and if I am seeing multiple bugs I can change the parent as confirmed right?
[09:40] <coNP> I mean the one that has the most useful information
[09:40] <cowbud> yah that is what I figured..
[09:41] <coNP> you can confirm the parent for sure
[09:41] <cowbud> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim/+bug/84906 should update-manager also be a part of this bug? I would say no but someone set it to it..
[09:41] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 84906 in vim "vim-tiny postinst fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[09:43] <mvo> coNP: it does not currently. it would be easy to enable but I would like to test the implications (i.e. how many more packages will get installed with recommends on)
[09:43] <mvo> but it may be a good idea to turn it on there
[09:43] <mvo> and then turn it on on the gobal level
[09:43] <coNP> mvo thanks, do you think it will be enabled in feisty?
[09:43] <coNP> what about a checkbox in the (graphical) sources.list configurator?
[09:43] <mvo> coNP: I would like to write a small test app that compares what will be installed and what not
[09:44] <mvo> with and without install-recommends
[09:44] <mvo> and then decide
[09:44] <coNP> I see
[09:47] <cowbud> is there ever a thought of creating a gui frontend to launchpad instead of a webpage?
[09:47] <cowbud> was there
[09:47] <cowbud> wow that is a poor sentence sorry but im sure you guys get it
[09:47] <coNP> I am almost sure someone has every thought :)
[09:47] <coNP> but know nothing about that
[09:47] <coNP> every -> ever
[09:48] <cowbud> hrmm I just can't help but think it would be quicker to triage with such a program..
[09:48] <coNP> some kind of bughelper gui + graphical lp frontend
[09:48] <cowbud> yah
[09:49] <coNP> lp is closed source, that might cause some problems
[09:49] <coNP> I don't know if its interfaces allow that, however
[09:50] <cowbud> hah are you serious launchpad is close source?
[09:50] <coNP> cowbud: https://launchpad.net/faq , c-f, open source :)
[09:51] <cowbud> ahh I see
[09:52] <dholbach> good morning
[09:52] <coNP> morgen
[09:52] <dholbach> hey coNP
[09:54] <coNP> dholbach: is there any requirements to join ubuntu-desktop-bugs? I could not figure that out based on the wiki pages
[09:55] <dholbach> coNP: no, just join up and I'll approve you
[09:55] <coNP> okay, thanks
[09:55] <cowbud> what's the benefit of being in that?
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86220 in Ubuntu "gnome-power-manager crashed on hybernation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86220
[09:56] <dholbach> cool people are in that team :-)
[09:56] <coNP> cowbud: having a nice icon :)
[09:56] <dholbach> and you get nice emblem :)
[09:56] <cowbud> haha
[09:56] <coNP> cowbud: actually I did  a lot of desktop-related bug triaging, then why not try to join the team?
[09:58] <cowbud> do you get to set priority and stuff like that afterwards? :)
[09:58] <cypher1> dholbach: hi!
[09:58] <dholbach> hey cypher1
[09:59] <cypher1> dholbach: gone on vacation ?
[09:59] <dholbach> cypher1: why? because I wasnt here on friday?
[09:59] <dholbach> I dunno why people always want to set priority
[09:59] <cowbud> dholbach: it seems weird not to allow us to if we are saying they are confirmed or not..
[09:59] <dholbach> prioritity is mostly a tool for the developer to prioritise their todo list
[09:59] <cowbud> ahh
[10:00] <dholbach> confirming bugs is something else
[10:00] <dholbach> that's status
[10:00] <cypher1> dholbach: no the nickserv was saying you were last seen 3 days back.. :)
[10:00] <dholbach> cypher1: ah ok - well it was weekend :-)
[10:00] <cypher1> dholbach: i have lot of doubts/questions regarding bugsquad tools.. can i pm ?
[10:01] <dholbach> cypher1: sure, but we can also have the discussion here - as you like it
[10:01] <cypher1> ok sure then.. we can have here
[10:01] <cypher1> i was little concerned over how the code is being changed as part of the ongoing development
[10:02] <dholbach> cypher1: ok... what problems do you see there?
[10:03] <cypher1> for eg, one of the main advantages of object oriented is not to touch some working code unnecessarily if we have another way to extend it
[10:03] <cypher1> one of the things i noticed was changing of regex expression in __init__ functions :(
[10:04] <dholbach> cypher1: it'd be great to have your input on all of those questions
[10:04] <dholbach> cypher1: we're still in a very early stage of development and it'd be great to have you commenting on those changes
[10:05] <cypher1> IMHO building by adding member functions is the best way to minimize the earlier code from breaking
[10:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86221 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86221
[10:06] <dholbach> cypher1: ok, sounds good - could you send a mail to the list about that?
[10:06] <dholbach> cypher1: it'd be great to let everybody know about that
[10:06] <cypher1> ok sure
[10:07] <dholbach> thanks a lot
[10:07] <cypher1> also why was the bugsquad tools is being designed by relying on layout HTML page ? will this approach put a serious limitation on how these pages can be redesigned later ?
[10:08] <dholbach> cypher1: at some stage we'll get xml output from launchpad
[10:08] <dholbach> cypher1: at the moment we don't have that yet
[10:09] <cypher1> dholbach: i guess the bug informations stored in some kind of database
[10:09] <dholbach> yeah
[10:09] <cypher1> dholbach: will the approach of enabling clients to do remote sql queries simplify things a lot ?
[10:10] <dholbach> we won't be allowed to do remote sql queries
[10:10] <dholbach> maybe xmlrpc, maybe we can download a xml blob from somewhere
[10:10] <cypher1> dholbach: sorry why ?
[10:10] <dholbach> but no direct database access
[10:11] <dholbach> i'm not a launchpad developer, but that's what i gathere from now
[10:13] <cypher1> dholbach: ok.. but it looks strange to me unless there is some sort of security concern etc :(
[10:13] <dholbach> cypher1: of course it's a security concern
[10:14] <dholbach> cypher1: how many sites do you have sql access to?
[10:15] <cypher1> dholbach: by sql access do you also mean the ability to do sql queries
[10:15] <cypher1> cypher1: that does not change the tables
[10:16] <dholbach> cypher1: sure, but it's a port on your box you can close from the outside world - LP is critical enough to not allow that by default
[10:18] <cypher1> dholbach: then another way is LP team to provide a site where we can pass SQL queries.. the site will have privilege to connect to sql server and execute and give back results.. will that be of any difference ?
[10:18] <dholbach> I don't think that's going to happen
[10:18] <cypher1> dholbach: why i was particular about this is because the performance and complexity of the bugsquad sort of programs will far better
[10:19] <dholbach> sure
[10:19] <dholbach> you can ask in #launchpad
[10:19] <cypher1> dholbach: ok
[10:20] <dholbach> as I said... I think it's going to be xmlrpc
[10:20] <cypher1> dholbach: thanks for your time.. i need to get back to work now .. talk to you later
[10:20] <dholbach> but they'll know for sure
[10:20] <dholbach> yeah - catch up with you later
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86223 in deskbar-applet (main) "[apport]  deskbar-applet crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86223
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86224 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed in grub-install hda1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86224
[10:35] <coNP> dholbach: you wrote we should forward bug 80725 upstream, however it is fixed in Feisty. Should I close it, or forward upstream?
[10:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80725 in gnome-utils "gnome-dictionary won't use dictd at localhost" [Low,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80725
[10:41] <seb128> coNP: mark it fixed
[10:41] <coNP> okay thanks, seb128
[10:41] <seb128> coNP: when a bug is fixed to current unstable version we close it
[10:41] <seb128> coNP: we can open a stable fix task if we want to backport a patch but that one doesn't look like a candidate for that
[10:41] <dholbach> coNP: unfortunately the bug activity log does not say who marked it as fix released at what date
[10:41] <seb128> dholbach: ?
[10:41] <seb128> "19 Feb 07 09:38  	 ron Sisak  	gnome-utils: status  	Unconfirmed  	Fix Released"
[10:41] <coNP> what is the bug activity log?
[10:41] <seb128> coNP: left pane option
[10:41] <dholbach> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+bug/80725/+activity
[10:41] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 80725 in gnome-utils "gnome-dictionary won't use dictd at localhost" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[10:41] <seb128> it describes what changes have been made on the bug
[10:41] <dholbach> seb128: weird, it didn't show up a minute ago - my entry was the last one... WEIRD
[10:41] <coNP> oh, thanks, it is new for me:)
[10:41] <seb128> dholbach: 09:38 is like 2 minutes ago today
[10:41] <dholbach> seb128: ok, maybe it was proxy-d somewhere along the way
[10:48] <seb128> I'm curious to know why he marked it fixed though
[10:48] <dholbach> maybe it "works for him" now
[10:48] <seb128> did he try with edgy or feisty? or spotted a changelog entry
[10:48] <cowbud> dholbach: maybe he saw that he could add localhost himself
[10:48] <cowbud> ahh he did try that
[10:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86226 in gdesklets-data (universe) "Problem with the "debian-cow" gdesklet" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86226
[10:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86227 in bloboats (universe) "Missing .desktop-file for bloboats" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86227
[10:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86228 in rafkill (universe) "Please sync rafkill (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86228
[11:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86229 in twinkle (universe) "Frequent failure to open soundcard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86229
[11:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86230 in xserver-xgl (universe) "[apport]  Xgl crashed Using Blender with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86230
[11:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86232 in Ubuntu "Feisty SATA HD failed detection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86232
[11:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86231 in linux-ntfs (main) "Installer won't resize Windows Vista NTFS-partitions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86231
[11:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86225 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Sound Issues" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86225
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86233 in nautilus (main) "Reported filetypes on Nautilus/SSH not correct" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86233
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86234 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "2 swap partitions each mounted twice in 2.6.20-8" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86234
[11:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86237 in rhythmbox (main) ""play" button on podcast notification" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86237
[11:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86235 in totem (main) "flv videos cannot be seeked" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86235
[11:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86238 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed when trying to personalize toolbar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86238
[11:45] <cowbud> grr missed duplicates for that totem firefox bug
[11:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86239 in totem (main) "cannot play a real media video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86239
[11:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86240 in regexxer (universe) "UVF exception: regexxer 0.8 -> 0.9" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86240
[11:56] <davmor2> Over the weekend I did a fresh install of herd 4 for the iso testing team.  Since this I have noticed that firefox is crashing out everytime I click on any media that is played live.  This wasn't the case with daily updates from herd 3 just wondering what might of chaged to screw this up.  It's on both 32bit and 64bit
[11:57] <seb128> davmor2: it's already fixed, upgrade
[11:58] <davmor2> seb128 yeah I figured it would get fixed quick I just wondered what it was?
[11:58] <seb128> it was firefox which stopped linked with libxpcom
[11:59] <seb128> it has been "fixed" by making the totem plugin link explicitly with that library
[11:59] <davmor2> okay ta.  Bit of hack then?  Why did firefox stop linking to it?
[12:00] <cowbud> seb128: so the confirmed was rejected sine it wasn't a totem bug (for: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/86196/ )
[12:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86196 in totem "[Feisty]  Firefox crashes with content that runs totem (dup-of: 85112)" [Medium,Rejected] 
[12:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85112 in firefox "Firefox crashes after watching embedded video (undefined symbol: NS_CStringContainerInit)" [High,Confirmed] 
[12:01] <seb128> cowbud: ?
[12:01] <seb128> cowbud: it has been marked duplicate
[12:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86241 in kmplayer (main) "date applet on logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86241
[12:01] <cowbud> right but it was first marked rejected..
[12:02] <seb128> I reject duplicate with the stock reply
[12:02] <cowbud> ah
[12:02] <cowbud> duplicate bugs are supposed to be rejected?
[12:03] <seb128> not really, just marking duplicate and adding the stock reply is fine
[12:03] <davmor2> seb128: Is the fix committed I just did apt-get update 0 to install
[12:03] <davmor2> and it is still crashing
[12:03] <seb128> davmor2: "0 to install"?
[12:03] <seb128> 2.17.91-0ubuntu3 is the fixed version
[12:03] <seb128> what version do you have?
[12:03] <davmor2> sorry apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:04] <davmor2> seb128 is that on the plugin
[12:04] <seb128> or totem
[12:04] <seb128> they are supposed to be the same version
[12:05] <seb128> maybe you are using an outdated mirror
[12:05] <davmor2> no still ubuntu2 not 3 I'm on the gb server
[12:05] <davmor2> it's had problems before
[12:05] <seb128> k, your mirror is lagging behind
[12:06] <seb128>  *** 2.17.91-0ubuntu3 0
[12:06] <seb128>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages
[12:06] <seb128>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:06] <davmor2> thanks for the info anyway
[12:06] <seb128> np
[12:07] <davmor2> seb128:  You might know about this one too ubuntu database vanished from app/system tools just wondered why when the message still points you there?
[12:08] <seb128> because you didn't upgrade update-manager to the version with the update message probably
[12:08] <seb128> or you didn't restart update-manager
[12:08] <davmor2> no this was herd 4 install hadn't had chance to update diddly
[12:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86243 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes when accessing WindowsMedia content " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86243
[12:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86244 in xubuntu-meta (main) "Xubuntu (Herd4) Application->Help not available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86244
[12:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86245 in gnome-panel (main) "crash message comes up after downloaded updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86245
[12:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86246 in prismstumbler (universe) "[apport]  prismstumbler crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86246
[12:39] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86249 in network-manager (main) "Support VPN connections in networkmanager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86249
[12:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86251 in openoffice.org (main) "Printing *.doc to *.ps (print to file) goes wrong" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86251
[12:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86252 in Ubuntu "KLIK cannot be providet so easy like with Knoppix" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86252
[01:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86254 in telepathy-python (universe) "UVF exception: telepathy-python 0.13.7 -> 0.13.8" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86254
[01:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86256 in zatacka (universe) "[apport]  zatacka crashed with SIGSEGV in SDL_MapRGB()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86256
[01:18] <BugMaN> hi!
[01:18] <BugMaN> a little question, can i mark bug 6151 fixed?
[01:18] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 6151 in epiphany "Translation error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6151
[01:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86257 in amarok (main) "amaroK indirectly depends on libgtk2.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86257
[01:23] <BugMaN> seb128: i'm marking fixed 6151!  :)
[01:24] <seb128> BugMaN: why?
[01:24] <BugMaN> seb128: you reply that it's fixed from dapper..
[01:25] <BugMaN> seb128: in upstream no?
[01:25] <seb128> BugMaN: ah right, I clicked on the wrong URI, yeah, feel free to close it
[01:25] <BugMaN> ok
[01:25] <BugMaN> :)
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86255 in Ubuntu "feisty-desktop-i386/amd64 (herd 4) livecd boot fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86255
[01:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86258 in xserver-xorg-video-i810 (main) "i810 driver: Using external widescreen monitor on a laptop needs a lot of complicated manual configuring" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86258
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86260 in Ubuntu "(feisty) No 3d acceleration with fglrx module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86260
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86261 in gquilt (universe) "Please sync gquilt (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86261
[01:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86259 in tracker (universe) "[apport]  trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV in g_ascii_table()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86259
[01:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86262 in xorg (main) "UI for changing X configuration is rather hidden" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86262
[02:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86263 in tracker (universe) "[apport]  trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV in g_ascii_table()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86263
[02:08] <gnomefreak> seb128: you around?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> seb128: i dont think the totem+firefox bug is fixed. While testing the updated totem its crashing now instead of closing with totem stuff in stacktrace
[02:11] <seb128> gnomefreak: crashing?
[02:11] <seb128> what version of the package are you using?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> ubuntu3
[02:11] <gnomefreak> look at bug 86265
[02:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86265 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86265
[02:11] <seb128> patches are welcome
[02:11] <seb128> it works fine for me
[02:12] <gnomefreak> it was after closing a link
[02:12] <seb128> SIGSEGV is a different bug
[02:12] <seb128> the one I fixed was a missing symbol error
[02:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86264 in eva (universe) "eva ships HTML symlink in /usr/share/doc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86264
[02:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86265 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86265
[02:13] <gnomefreak> yes and one of the links on one of the dupes crashed after closing with totem plugin errors in stack
[02:13] <seb128> you are not clear
[02:13] <seb128> are you saying that a bug has been marked dup incorrectly?
[02:13] <seb128> if that's the case just undup it ...
[02:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86266 in xorg (main) "No easy way to force laptops to use the external screen" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86266
[02:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86267 in Ubuntu "It's not possible to eject the CD after end installation at "eject and reboot"-screen." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86267
[02:32] <gnomefreak> seb128: can you test this link http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=2939419&md5=486267e1edd7ec32e7a2a4d076f71593  it will either crash while loading or after closing i can reproduce this every time (but yes i agree its not the missing symbol crash)
[02:33] <seb128> gnomefreak: doesn't crash, I'm using epiphany though
[02:34] <gnomefreak> i havent tried it i tried ff because thats what the bugs were reported on
[02:35] <seb128> lemme try
[02:36] <gnomefreak> asac: was able to reproduce it
[02:36] <seb128> gnomefreak: ok, it crashes with firefox here as well
[02:36] <seb128> what is the question about it?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> it is just a thought but could it have been: the missing symbol was causing it to close not crash now that the symbol was patched its allowing it to crash like it wanted to do in first place?
[02:38] <seb128> hum
[02:38] <seb128> not clear
[02:38] <gnomefreak> if you read stack it looks like totemplugin is causing it but im not expert on stacktraces
[02:38] <seb128> the missing symbol was causing the plugin to not start
[02:38] <seb128> which mean firefox was closing on any page where the video plugin wanted to start
[02:39] <seb128> because the browser is not robust to plugins error
[02:39] <seb128> that has nothing to do with the crasher
[02:40] <gnomefreak> but the plugin not starting the plugin couldnt crash now that plugin can start and run it can now crash
[02:40] <seb128> I don't parse that correctly I think
[02:40] <gnomefreak> is my thoughts on it alteast. i dont know how close i am
[02:41] <seb128> well, that seems to be complicated
[02:41] <asac> seb128: gnomefreak: its fine ... lets evaluate this first ... if we can track a crash down that is not related to the symbol, we will come back to seb128 :)
[02:41] <seb128> let's summarize
[02:41] <seb128> the plugin was broken
[02:41] <seb128> now it's fixed
[02:41] <seb128> any crasher is a bug, either from firefox or totem
[02:41] <seb128> any crasher due to video playing with totem plugin I mean
[02:41] <gnomefreak> plugin when broken could not crash (because it couldnt start)
[02:41] <seb128> well
[02:41] <seb128> if that's a SIGSEGV that's not a missing symbol problem
[02:42] <seb128> right
[02:42] <seb128> forget the missing symbol problem, it's fixed
[02:42] <asac> seb128: is there a -dbg package for totem?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> seb128: but now that plugin can start it is now able to crash
[02:42] <seb128> if you find a crasher now that's a bug
[02:42] <asac> i guess its a null deref because it happens in destructor
[02:42] <seb128> asac: we have dbgsym packages for everything which got rebuilt since octobre
[02:42] <seb128> asac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[02:43] <gnomefreak> from pittis repo?
[02:43] <asac> but -dbgsym don't show variables et al?
[02:43] <seb128> -dbgsym are identic to -dbg made with dh_strip
[02:43] <seb128> they are just a different namespace to not conflict
[02:43] <seb128> they show variables when they are not optimized values
[02:44] <asac> ok ... lets see then :)
[02:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86269 in synaptic (main) "Sources list in synaptic hs not been adapted to Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86269
[02:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86270 in base-installer (main) "feisty-alternate-i386 for herd-3/4 cannot install kernel from CDROM onto Via C7 cpu" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86270
[02:52] <seb128> asac, gnomefreak: might be http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=407679
[02:52] <Ubugtu> Gnome bug 407679 in Browser plugin "Crash on webtv.tv2.no" [Critical,New] 
[02:54] <asac> seb128: yes ... should be.
[02:55] <seb128> asac: feel free to reassign the bug on totem
[02:55] <seb128> s/on/to
[02:55] <asac> seb128: will verify the fix first ... then will do.
[02:55] <seb128> ok
[02:56] <seb128> asac: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/totem?view=rev&revision=4034
[03:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86271 in serpentine (main) "exception during startup: undefined symbol: totem_pl_parser_type_get_typef" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86271
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86273 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-gtk crashed with ImportError in __get_builtin_constructor()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86273
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86274 in gnash (universe) "[apport]  gnash crashed with SIGSEGV in gnash::XML::cloneNode()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86274
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86275 in deluge-torrent (universe) "[apport]  deluge.py crashed with ImportError in __get_builtin_constructor()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86275
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86276 in ndiswrapper (main) "FTBFS with module-assistant" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86276
[03:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86277 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86277
[03:27] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86272 in gnome-panel (main) "Edgy:gnome-panel keeps crashing after unpacking iso (dup-of: 66189)" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86272
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86278 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "ip2200 skype lockup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86278
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86280 in banshee (universe) "Banshee frequently crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86280
[03:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86281 in istanbul (universe) "unable to record sound with istanbul" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86281
[03:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86279 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed whilst writing GRUB to external USB disk sda" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86279
[03:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86283 in ontv (universe) "[apport]  ontv crashed with IndexError in _execute_child()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86283
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86282 in control-center (main) "Theme previews go away after installing new widget themes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86282
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86286 in netapplet (universe) "[apport]  netapplet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86286
[03:48] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86285 in kdebase (main) "kcontrol crashes when I close it after changing screensaver (feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86285
[03:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86287 in kdebase (main) "no gl screensaver and  "kdesktop_lock" crashes when moving mouse" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86287
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86284 in ubiquity (main) "Feisty Herd 4, grammar error in dialog text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86284
[04:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86288 in nicotine (universe) "[apport]  nicotine crashed with TypeError in GetSharedFileList()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86288
[04:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86291 in ubiquity (main) "[Feisty Herd 4]  partitioner stalls for a long time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86291
[04:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86289 in Ubuntu "Traceback (most recent call last)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86289
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86292 in hal (main) "usb key is not mounted automaticaly (feisty)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86292
[04:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86290 in Ubuntu "Buggy sn9c102 module on 2.6.17" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86290
[04:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86293 in flpsed (universe) "Exported PDF is missing letters" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86293
[04:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86294 in Ubuntu "7.04 Control Center crash when using ISO-8859" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86294
[04:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86295 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86295
[04:29] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81433 in update-manager "Error installing vim package in upgrade to Feisty using update-manager (dup-of: 84906)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81433
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86296 in synaptic (main) "synaptic needs to reopen to read new proxy settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86296
[04:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86297 in ubiquity (main) "[Feisty Herd 4]  Partitioner behaves inconsistently" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86297
[04:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86298 in sbackup (universe) "simple-restore-gnome (sbackup) chrashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86298
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86300 in evince (main) "evince zoom shortcut key problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86300
[04:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86301 in Ubuntu "Feature Request: Dynamic head configuration in X.org" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86301
[04:51] <asac> what package to assign kubuntu bugs like bug 47416 to?
[04:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 47416 in firefox "Kubuntu Homepage links wrong" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/47416
[05:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86302 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed desktop cd 7.04 /4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86302
[05:17] <bdmurray> asac: probably ubuntu-docs I think
[05:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86303 in xorg "Ctrl+Alt+Keypad-Plus Ctrl+Alt+Keypad-Minus do not function" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86303
[05:22] <cjwatson> caravena|AFK: please set the bug to needs-info and assign to yourself when requesting more information
[05:26] <asac> bdmurray: k
[05:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86305 in gthumb (main) "UVF exception: gthumb 2.9.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86305
[05:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86306 in Ubuntu "qgis" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86306
[05:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86307 in yakuake (universe) "Weird behaviour with Beryl." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86307
[05:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86308 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86308
[05:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86309 in texlive-extra (universe) "problem with arev in texlive-extra" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86309
[05:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86310 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed on attempting to play quicktime video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86310
[05:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86311 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 85423)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86311
[05:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86312 in firefox (main) "firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86312
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86314 in firefox (main) "Crashed logging into yahoo mail beta, trying to show security warning." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86314
[06:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86315 in xen-meta (universe) "[FTBFS]  Patch for xen-meta 0.0.1-2ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86315
[06:08] <caravena> cjwatson: Assignet to ->?
[06:09] <cjwatson> caravena: to yourself; see the bugsquad docs
[06:09] <cjwatson> caravena: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
[06:10] <caravena> cjwatson: Ok, thanks.
[06:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86316 in wxmaxima (universe) "wxmaxima dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86316
[06:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86317 in xfce4-cpufreq-plugin (universe) "[apport]  xfce4-cpufreq-plugin crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_ref()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86317
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86318 in gajim (universe) "Version 0.11.1 of Gajim has been released. Please update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86318
[06:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86319 in lighttpd (universe) "Incorrect PATH_INFO when FastCGI/SCGI is serving "/"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86319
[06:40] <tsmithe> crimsun, bug 82986 is a very strange case
[06:40] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82986 in linux-source-2.6.15 "No sound after initial install" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82986
[06:40] <tsmithe> how can it be detected, but not detected?!
[06:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86323 in gnome-media (main) "report bug display after move cursor of volume control" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86323
[06:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86324 in python2.4 (main) "python crash while bittorrent coming up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86324
[06:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86326 in python2.4 (main) "Python is missing the 'profile' standard library module." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86326
[07:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86327 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in __pthread_mutex_unlock_usercnt()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86327
[07:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86325 in alsa-utils (main) "alsa mixer Multi Track Internal Clock stuck on IEC958 and operation error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86325
[07:04] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86328 in live-package (universe) "live-package is uninstallable in feisty. (cdebootstrap version dependency)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86328
[07:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86330 in authtool (universe) "authtool-gtk claims that libpam-heimdal is required" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86330
[07:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86331 in authtool (universe) ""administrator" and "admin password" are unclear" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86331
[07:12] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86332 in authtool (universe) "AD Realm vs. Default Realm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86332
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86333 in Ubuntu "X not working on nvidia fx5600 with 'vesa' driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86333
[07:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86334 in kde-systemsettings (main) "systemsettings has improperly formatted text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86334
[07:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86335 in totem (main) "[apport]  totem crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86335
[07:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86336 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86336
[07:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86337 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86337
[07:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86338 in firefox (main) "Crash on submitting forum reply (AnandTech)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86338
[07:56] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86339 in nmzmail (universe) "Lacks incremental index update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86339
[07:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86340 in mplayer (multiverse) "Mplayer crash when opening a file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86340
[08:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86342 in linux-meta (main) "enable advanced congestion control" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86342
[08:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86341 in compiz (universe) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86341
[08:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86343 in gnome-pilot-conduits (main) "Location field does not get sent to pda" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86343
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86344 in Ubuntu "beryl crashed while resizing gaim window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86344
[08:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86345 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 6.10 amd64 on boot tty can't start job control" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86345
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86346 in gnome-power-manager (main) "login to gnome after apt-get upgrade (cli)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86346
[08:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86347 in network-manager (main) "Static IP configuration leaves out keyword in /etc/network/interfaces" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86347
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86348 in gnome-applets (main) "Workspace switcher does not allow for adding new workspaces" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86348
[08:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86349 in firestarter (universe) "[apport]  firestarter crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_x11_display_get_xdisplay()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86349
[08:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86320 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "[apport]  gnome-vfs-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in ovu_caps_free()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86320
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86350 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86350
[08:47] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86351 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager crashes when configuring zd1211 wireless device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86351
[08:57] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86353 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86353
[08:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86354 in Ubuntu "Fesity-create-launcher-on-gnome-panel-fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86354
[09:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86355 in nmap (main) "nmap OS scan is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86355
[09:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86356 in authtool (universe) "computer type profiles are unclear" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86356
[09:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86357 in gnome-system-tools (main) "network-admin segfaults on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86357
[09:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86358 in user-setup (main) "user-setup allows mythtv to be chosen for a username" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86358
[09:22] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86359 in mono (main) "[apport]  mono crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86359
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86360 in gnome-applets (main) "[keyboard indicator]  "Show Current Layout" displays empty window (at least on amd64)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86360
[09:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86362 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86362
[10:09] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86363 in Ubuntu "Feisty: When switching users the touchpad won't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86363
[10:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86367 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[apport]  gnome-power-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_event_apply_filters()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86367
[10:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86368 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "[apport]  gnome-cups-icon crashed with SIGSEGV in strcmp()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86368
[10:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86369 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution-alarm-notify crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_event_apply_filters()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86369
[10:19] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86370 in apport (main) "[apport]  apport-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86370
[10:20] <cowbud> damn lots of firefox crashes
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86364 in lirc (main) "lirc-modules won't compile, upgrade to 0.8.1 needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86364
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86365 in firefox (main) "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86365
[10:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86366 in control-center (main) "[apport]  gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86366
[10:20] <cowbud> there is anotha one..
[10:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86374 in control-center (main) "[apport]  gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86374
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86372 in evolution (main) "[apport]  evolution-alarm-notify crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_event_apply_filters()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86372
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86373 in control-center (main) "[apport]  gnome-theme-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_event_apply_filters()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86373
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86375 in control-center (main) "[apport]  gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86375
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86371 in control-center (main) "[apport]  gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86371
[10:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86376 in gnome-terminal (main) "[apport]  gnome-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in XRenderFillRectangle()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86376
[10:37] <gnomefreak> pochu: if your here we are starting the meeting soon
[10:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86377 in Ubuntu "the latest fire fox crash again" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86377
[10:43] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86378 in compiz (universe) "Switching "movement key" in "Windows Preferences" has no effect using Compiz in Feisty." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86378
[10:44] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86379 in authtool (universe) "authtool doesn't work if samba isn't installed" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86379
[10:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86380 in authtool (universe) "crash if debconf db is locked" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86380
[10:53] <crimsun> tsmithe: can you ``grep -nHr 168f /path/to/ubuntu-2.6.git/sound/pci/*'' ?
[10:53] <crimsun> I don't have my git trees readily accessible
[10:53] <tsmithe> ah ok
[10:54] <tsmithe> does that matter or shall i update?
[10:54] <crimsun> I'm pretty certain it doesn't matter if you're not synced; most of the changes have been to sound/pci/hda/
[10:55] <tsmithe> okey dokey
[10:55] <crimsun> specifically, sound/pci/hda/patch_{sigmatel,realtek,conexant}.c
[10:56] <tsmithe> nothing
[10:56] <tsmithe> what's 168f? a vendor/product id?
[11:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86382 in gnome-panel (main) "[apport]  gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_free1()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86382
[11:06] <crimsun> tsmithe: SSID (subvendor)
[11:06] <tsmithe> ah
[11:07] <crimsun> tsmithe: in lspci -nv, ac97-class are 0401, HDA are 0403
[11:07] <tsmithe> yes
[11:07] <tsmithe> why?
[11:07] <crimsun> not necessarily bad
[11:07] <crimsun> assignment
[11:08] <crimsun> did you check the vendor (10b9) and device (5451), too?
[11:08] <tsmithe> no...
[11:08] <tsmithe> shall i pastebin the output, or just list the files?
[11:08] <crimsun> pastebin
[11:10] <tsmithe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6639/
[11:10] <tsmithe> so what are you aiming to do with this information?
[11:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86383 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 6.1 installer ignores Intel driver clues" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86383
[11:12] <crimsun> um, is the title of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/82986/comments/3 misspelled?
[11:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 82986 in linux-source-2.6.15 "No sound after initial install" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[11:12] <crimsun> (i.e., "Commment #3" ?)
[11:12] <tsmithe> eh?
[11:12] <crimsun> look in the titlebar
[11:12] <tsmithe> oh yeah
[11:12] <tsmithe> ...
[11:13] <tsmithe> looks like a lp bug
[11:13] <tsmithe> never noticed that
[11:16] <tsmithe> oh duh - 168f is the ali ssid, right?
[11:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86384 in initramfs-tools (main) "kernel/initramfs >2.6.20-6 fails to init RAID/LVM root" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86384
[11:17] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86385 in qtparted (main) "qtparted and kubuntu (desktop CD) partitionner don't recognaze all my hard drives." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86385
[11:18] <tsmithe> and i'm still unsure as to why lspci -vvn is better than lspci -vvnn... i find it hard to interpret without the english
[11:18] <crimsun> the ssid is misleading
[11:18] <crimsun> -n is more useful, because the driver is matched by those IDs
[11:18] <tsmithe> ok
[11:19] <tsmithe> but how do you know what IDs you are looking for (i.e., which is which)?
[11:19] <crimsun> that depends what the class is
[11:19] <crimsun> for ac97, generally SSIDs aren't as important /unless/ you're looking at quirks
[11:19] <crimsun> for HDA, SSIDs are essential
[11:20] <tsmithe> right
[11:20] <crimsun> (HDA is probably the biggest pile you'll see)
[11:21] <tsmithe> ow. why?! can't they all conform?
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86386 in hardinfo (universe) "Fatal error HAL!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86386
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86387 in Ubuntu "A strange message on boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86387
[11:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86388 in Ubuntu "Fiesty Herd 4 x64 Live CD - ipg driver does not autoload" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86388
[11:28] <carthik> ta da
[11:29] <stgraber> hi
[11:29] <carthik> http://people.ubuntu-in.org/~carthik/bugstats/ --> updated :)
[11:29] <carthik> hi stgraber
[11:30] <crimsun> tsmithe: of course not, that would be silly anyhow. Why conform when one can sow discord?
[11:30] <tsmithe> grrr
[11:31] <tsmithe> why? to stop annoying me and you and everyone else, and then all the other people who are going to buy sound cards that won't work
[11:31] <tsmithe> :P
[11:32] <tsmithe> and while i'm at it, i might as well complain about git. *complain*complain*
[11:33] <tsmithe> carthik, that's just scary
[11:33] <tsmithe> is there a graph for acceleration as well?
[11:33] <carthik> tsmithe, derivates... hmmm
[11:34] <ajmitch> carthik: nice graphs, quite useful showing more time
[11:34] <carthik> thanks ajmitch
[11:34] <carthik> tsmithe, scary - yes. Sorry it has to be so, though. Acceleration, rate of acceleration would be nice to see too,
[11:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86389 in xfdesktop4 (main) "xfdesktop4-s menu basque translation bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86389
[11:52] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86392 in bzr (main) "empty push performance slower than needed" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86392
[12:02] <Ubugtu> New bug: #86394 in Ubuntu "[apport]  synaptic crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86394