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| saispo | hi | 11:58 |
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| saispo | how can i force to include ide-modules-2.6.17-10-generic-di on my custom cd ? | 11:58 |
| saispo | i have an error on ide-modules in syslog when try to format :/ | 11:59 |
| cjwatson_ | make sure it's in the installer seed | 11:59 |
| saispo | hi cjwatson :) | 12:01 |
| saispo | * /^.*-modules-.*-386-di/ | 12:03 |
| saispo | i have this... | 12:03 |
| cjwatson | which does not match anything-generic-di. | 12:04 |
| saispo | yep | 12:05 |
| saispo | readd this | 12:05 |
| cjwatson | in edgy we used the 386 kernel in the installer though | 12:05 |
| cjwatson | if you've changed that then you'll have to make corresponding seed changes | 12:05 |
| saispo | yep | 12:05 |
| saispo | but i don't understand why i have an ide error module... | 12:06 |
| cjwatson | nor do I; you're much better-placed to debug it locally | 12:06 |
| saispo | hw-detect: Missing modules 'ide-mod (Linux IDE driver), | 12:07 |
| saispo | ide-probe-mod (Linux IDE probe driver), ide-detect (Linux IDE detection), | 12:07 |
| saispo | ide-floppy (Linux IDE floppy) | 12:07 |
| saispo | i have this exactly | 12:07 |
| saispo | and when i use a scenario for partitioning, i have an error with "no system file founds" | 12:07 |
| saispo | (i backport partman-auto) | 12:07 |
| saispo | partman: No matching physical volumes found | 12:08 |
| saispo | i have this too | 12:08 |
| cjwatson | ignore those warnings. You've misdiagnosed them. | 12:11 |
| saispo | ok, you think, the error is not in this track ? | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | the hw-detect ones, I mean | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | try manual partitioning and see if it presents any disks | 12:12 |
| saispo | manual partitioning work | 12:12 |
| cjwatson | then it is not a matter of missing modules, obviously | 12:13 |
| saispo | hw-detect must be backported ? | 12:13 |
| cjwatson | if you think about it | 12:13 |
| cjwatson | NO | 12:13 |
| cjwatson | stop flailing around randomly :-) | 12:13 |
| cjwatson | "No matching physical volumes found" is irrelevant as well | 12:14 |
| cjwatson | what's the exact error you get from autopartitioning? | 12:14 |
| saispo | no system files have been choosed for the root (/) partition | 12:15 |
| cjwatson | is that really the exact error? (it contains a grammatical mistake) | 12:15 |
| cjwatson | http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html | 12:19 |
| cjwatson | specifically the "Works for me. So what goes wrong?" section | 12:19 |
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| CIA-4 | ubiquity: jriddell * r1875 trunk/ubiquity/frontend/ (5 files): merge in kde-advanced-partitioner | 01:00 |
| Riddell | that CIA stuff is hassle to set up | 01:01 |
| cjwatson | yeah, is just an initial cost though | 01:01 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: jriddell * r1876 trunk/debian/ (changelog ubiquity-frontend-kde.install): Add a changelog entry and add new .ui files to debian/ubiquity-frontend-kde.install | 01:03 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1877 ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/gtkui.py: revert spurious debugging output | 01:05 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1878 ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/ (kde-ui.py partition_create_dialog.ui): spell dialog consistently (I know, it's the US spelling, but it will make things easier if it's consistent) | 01:08 |
| cjwatson | otherwise looking pretty good; thanks for that! | 01:11 |
| cjwatson | I'll upload later today | 01:11 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1879 ubiquity/debian/changelog: stray tab | 01:12 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1880 ubiquity/ (configure configure.ac): bump to 1.3.22 | 01:15 |
| Riddell | oops, I only checked kde-ui for debugging to remove | 01:16 |
| cjwatson | no problem | 01:19 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: I take it you plan to add some buttons at some point, so people don't have to discover the right click menu? | 01:20 |
| cjwatson | yeah | 01:20 |
| cjwatson | was planning to do that pretty soon actually | 01:20 |
| cjwatson | they'll be needed once the disk bar UI gets in | 01:21 |
| Riddell | yep | 01:21 |
| Riddell | cjwatson: still planning on ubiquity slideshow for feisty? | 01:22 |
| cjwatson | <mumble> | 01:22 |
| Riddell | I see | 01:22 |
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| cjwatson | not sure, it's getting late and I still need to sit down with Ken and talk about artwork for it | 01:22 |
| Riddell | evand: what are the chances of migration assistant for Kubuntu Feisty? | 01:23 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: I think you missed it in the KDE .ui, but I included a stub partition_list_buttonbox widget in the GTK one | 01:24 |
| evand | Riddell: that would be difficult as I have not had the time to write the functions for importing into the KDE equivs, but when I finish bug fixing I'll start working on it. I think it's too late for Feisty though. | 01:30 |
| Riddell | evand: ok, a shame but entirely understandable | 01:35 |
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| evand | Riddell: Indeed, but don't let this be an indication of my commitment to getting m-a working for both DEs. I will definitely start coding for it as soon as I get the chance. | 01:37 |
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| evand | hah, thanks | 01:39 |
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| cjwatson | cr3: gtk-on-next is a bug, yes, and I could believe that | 01:40 |
| saispo | cjwatson: excuse me, my boss want to see me | 01:40 |
| cjwatson | cr3: copying the desktop CD to a partition and booting from it is probably not a great test, I'm afraid | 01:40 |
| saispo | cjwatson: it's my translated message of the french message ;) | 01:41 |
| cjwatson | saispo: I would rather have the untranslated message. I can look it up myself. | 01:41 |
| saispo | ok | 01:41 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: darn, how is booting from a partition different? | 01:41 |
| saispo | will give you | 01:41 |
| cjwatson | saispo: when I ask for an exact error message, it's because I want to grep for it. Home-made translations don't help me at all. | 01:41 |
| saispo | i understand | 01:43 |
| cjwatson | cr3: actually, looking at the relevant casper code, it might be ok | 01:43 |
| cjwatson | cr3: just make sure you copy the whole CD and not just the squashfs, as ubiquity uses files outside the squashfs | 01:43 |
| cjwatson | cr3: /preseed/ubuntu.seed can be used to preseed the desktop installation, but the extent to which the desktop installer is preseedable is still quite limited; see the ubiquity-automation spec | 01:44 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: I copy the integrality of the desktop cd to its own partition. unfortunately, I have to cp, I haven't managed to dd and then boot off the iso partition. | 01:46 |
| cjwatson | cr3: if you can get it to boot at all, I suppose it will be fine | 01:48 |
| saispo | cjwatson: the exact message in french is : "Aucun systme de fichier n'a t choisi comme racine" | 01:56 |
| saispo | "Veuillez corriger cela a partir du menu de partitionement" | 01:56 |
| cjwatson | ah, partman-target/no_root | 01:57 |
| cjwatson | saispo: could you put your preseed file somewhere I can see it, with any passwords removed? | 01:57 |
| saispo | cjwatson: ok, i can | 01:58 |
| saispo | thks | 01:58 |
| saispo | cjwatson: http://www.zarb.org/~saispo/saispo.seed you can see it here | 02:01 |
| cjwatson | saispo: looks ok, I think; can I see /var/log/syslog and /var/log/partman from the installer too? | 02:03 |
| saispo | ok | 02:03 |
| cjwatson | saispo: err, you still have d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/discs/disc0/disc set there | 02:04 |
| cjwatson | saispo: you should remove that with the partman-auto you've backportede | 02:04 |
| cjwatson | backported | 02:04 |
| saispo | ok | 02:05 |
| saispo | will try without it :) | 02:05 |
| saispo | cjwatson: same error | 02:09 |
| saispo | it's not my scenario ? | 02:10 |
| saispo | because in partman log, i see sda | 02:10 |
| saispo | you want the log ? | 02:10 |
| cr3 | I'm attempting to preseed edgy and the installer is prompting on Partition disks. wasn't there some 'manage' or somesuch configuration to define for partman? | 02:15 |
| saispo | http://www.zarb.org/~saispo/log.partman, http://www.zarb.org/~saispo/log.syslog | 02:15 |
| saispo | cr3: i try to preseed edgy too and have some error with partman | 02:15 |
| cr3 | aha! I remember what I was thinking of, it was partman-auto/method, but I specified that. | 02:16 |
| cr3 | saispo: I remember getting preseeding to work with edgy when partitioning the whole drive, but now I'm trying partman-auto/expert_recipe | 02:17 |
| saispo | cr3: same as me | 02:17 |
| cr3 | saispo: interesting! | 02:17 |
| saispo | cr3: http://www.zarb.org/~saispo/saispo.seed it's my preseed but don't work | 02:18 |
| saispo | cr3: have you an example of a preseed file for the whole drive ? | 02:18 |
| cjwatson | cr3: saispo has an unusual scenario because he's backporting partman-auto | 02:18 |
| saispo | cjwatson: i can remove it :) | 02:19 |
| cjwatson | any chance of me actually having time to analyse your log files? :-P | 02:19 |
| saispo | cjwatson: i can test withtout a backported partman if you want | 02:19 |
| cjwatson | saispo: that log is from an installation run where you did manual partitioning | 02:20 |
| cjwatson | saispo: I want logs from an autopartitioning run | 02:20 |
| saispo | k | 02:20 |
| saispo | cjwatson: i have :) | 02:20 |
| cr3 | saispo: the only difference I can notice between our partman configuration is that I use: d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string boot-root :: ... | 02:20 |
| cjwatson | cr3: partman-auto/method is only relevant in feisty | 02:20 |
| cr3 | whereas you use: d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string root :: | 02:21 |
| cjwatson | (both are wrong, incidentally, although not importantly so - you should use : not ::) | 02:21 |
| cr3 | saispo: I don't know the difference between boot-root and root though, perhaps I found it on feisty by accident :( | 02:21 |
| cjwatson | (but this is probably not the cause of this problem) | 02:21 |
| cjwatson | cr3: they're arbitrary identifiers; makes zero difference | 02:21 |
| saispo | cjwatson: http://www.zarb.org/~saispo/log.partman, http://www.zarb.org/~saispo/log.syslog | 02:22 |
| saispo | new log | 02:22 |
| saispo | you can see no partition detection | 02:22 |
| cjwatson | saispo: which simply means the disk is blank | 02:23 |
| cjwatson | it detected the disk fine | 02:23 |
| saispo | yep | 02:23 |
| saispo | but why he don't create the partion ? | 02:23 |
| cjwatson | saispo: could you update the preseed file you're using? | 02:23 |
| cjwatson | http://www.zarb.org/~saispo/saispo.seed | 02:24 |
| saispo | yes i can update it | 02:24 |
| saispo | with what ? | 02:24 |
| cjwatson | your current version | 02:24 |
| cjwatson | 13:05 <saispo> will try without it :) | 02:24 |
| saispo | i try with this | 02:24 |
| saispo | but not work | 02:24 |
| cjwatson | urgh, hang on | 02:24 |
| cjwatson | you backported partman-auto. How much of it? | 02:24 |
| saispo | i take partman-auto from feisty | 02:24 |
| saispo | i put it on my local repository, he ovveride the partman-auto from edgy | 02:25 |
| cjwatson | saispo: I suspect this simply won't work without a local installer expert. Sorry. | 02:26 |
| cjwatson | I think you'll just have to use 'd-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda' for now and deal with having to have different preseed files for different machines. | 02:27 |
| saispo | ok :( | 02:27 |
| cr3 | I copied syslog, partman and my preseed file here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cr3/preseed/edgy/ | 02:27 |
| cjwatson | I did warn you that this wasn't a guaranteed option | 02:27 |
| saispo | i say... | 02:28 |
| cjwatson | cr3: your disk is hda, but your preseed file says sda | 02:28 |
| cjwatson | cr3: fix that and it should work | 02:28 |
| saispo | cjwatson: it's possible to have a hook wich detect if it's an hda or an sda and load a template for partition ? | 02:28 |
| cjwatson | saispo: yes, kickstart does that, but I'm afraid I don't have time to run you through it, sorry | 02:29 |
| saispo | ok, i understand, no problem | 02:30 |
| saispo | if [ "$(cat /sys/block/hda/devices/media)" = cdrom ] ; then echo part-auto-sda.cfg; else echo part-auto-hda.cfg; fi | 02:30 |
| saispo | this things may work ? | 02:30 |
| cjwatson | maybe | 02:35 |
| saispo | cr3: you use DEBCONF_DEBUG=3 ? | 02:35 |
| cjwatson | I really don't want to have to debug that if it goes wrong though | 02:35 |
| cjwatson | DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 surely | 02:35 |
| saispo | k | 02:41 |
| saispo | thks | 02:41 |
| cr3 | yes, DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 | 02:43 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: thanks, that's the second time I get bitten by that problem, I need to make it a variable interpolated per machine :( | 02:44 |
| cr3 | I'm using the same partman-auto/expert_recipe as on http://people.ubuntu.com/~cr3/preseed/edgy for another machine and I'm getting: Can't have a partition outside the disk. | 02:58 |
| saispo | cr3: you thing a variable work for switching between sda or hda ? | 03:05 |
| cjwatson | I seriously recommend you live with two preseed files until feisty's out | 03:07 |
| cjwatson | cr3: can I get the syslog for that? | 03:08 |
| saispo | cjwatson: yep | 03:11 |
| saispo | i will begin my job under feisty when i finish to fix bug of my edgy support | 03:11 |
| saispo | :) | 03:11 |
| saispo | ls | 03:11 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1881 ubiquity/ubiquity/ (components/partman.py frontend/gtkui.py frontend/kde-ui.py): move allowed-actions logic into Partman component | 03:21 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1882 ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/ (gtkui.py kde-ui.py): more informative partman menu entries | 03:31 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cr3/preseed/feisty/syslog | 03:34 |
| cjwatson | cr3: partman would be good too | 03:34 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: uploaded | 03:36 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1883 ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/ (gtkui.py kde-ui.py): fix get_actions arguments | 03:37 |
| cjwatson | cr3: do you know if the disk has one of those Host Protected Area things? | 03:39 |
| cjwatson | 'cos it looks like the kernel may be lying to partman about the size of the disk ... | 03:39 |
| cjwatson | cr3: I'd try to reproduce it with parted from the command line, and if you can, take it to a kernel bug | 03:40 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: I'll try a few more machines with the same preseed file | 03:48 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: you were right! what's ironic is that I had actually tried it on two machines beforehand and the two returned the same error. I then tried it on a few other machines after your diagnosis and they're working perfectly. | 03:54 |
| cr3 | I'll log a bug about the other machines, did you notice anything in either syslog or partman that might be useful to highlight in my bug report? | 03:55 |
| cjwatson | no, better to just attach the whole thing | 03:55 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1884 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtkui.py): - Add contextual buttons to GTK frontend (part of LP: #83166). | 03:56 |
| saispo | cjwatson: i decided to wait for feisty for auto partitioning | 03:56 |
| saispo | i let the user to partition the disk with the feisty release | 03:56 |
| saispo | it will be a new feature for the next release ;) | 03:56 |
| cjwatson | cr3: btw, your gtk-go-forward bug is 86047 | 04:02 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1885 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs): | 04:05 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: * Retranslate Forward button when going back from summary page | 04:05 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: (LP: #86047). | 04:05 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1886 ubiquity/debian/changelog: LP: #85642 coincidentally fixed | 04:09 |
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| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1887 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtkui.py): * Fix up step numbers if migration-assistant is disabled (LP: #85711). | 04:18 |
| CIA-4 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r1888 ubiquity/debian/changelog: reorg | 04:20 |
| cr3 | I'm getting: The following packages have unmet dependencies: ubuntu-desktop: Depends: gdm but it is not going to be installed, Recommends: ttf-thai-tlwg but it is not going to be installed | 04:29 |
| cr3 | that's probably a problem with my mirror or perhaps in the way I'm defining mirrors... | 04:30 |
| cr3 | weird, the package is indeed on the mirror: pool/main/t/thaifonts-scalable/ttf-thai-tlwg_0.4.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb | 04:32 |
| cjwatson | that's generally a consequence of other breakage; look for the first error rather than the last, and/or retry with -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true to the relevant apt tool | 04:49 |
| cjwatson | unlikely to be an installer problem | 04:49 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: I'm not sure where I could specify that option. I suspect the problem is in the multiselect, so would I define something like this in my preseed: tasksel tasksel/first -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true multiselect ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-desktop | 04:56 |
| cjwatson | no no no | 04:56 |
| cjwatson | not talking about the preseed file | 04:56 |
| cjwatson | I mean chrooting in by hand after it all goes pear-shaped | 04:57 |
| cr3 | there seems to be a conflict between gdm and gnome-session, which might be caused by my multiselect which specified ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-desktop. I'll try with just ubuntu-desktop as specified in the ubuntu.seed file on the alternate cd | 05:05 |
| cr3 | hm, that really doesn't make sense considering both gdm and gnome-session are in ubuntu-desktop metapackage :( | 05:08 |
| cr3 | gdm: Breaks: gnome-session (<= 2.17.91-0ubuntu1) but 2.17.91-0ubuntu1 is to be installed, so there's probably a problem with my ordering of mirrors | 05:10 |
| cjwatson | oh, if it's feisty, then this sort of thing happens transiently | 05:14 |
| cjwatson | generally the answer (if you're not in core-dev) is "wait and try again later" | 05:15 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: crap, I realy on the alternate install a lot, maybe current is fixed... | 05:15 |
| cr3 | or maybe I can fix it temporarily by mounting a unionfs over the iso and copying another gdm or gnome-session package over it, but that probably means I'll have to regenerate the Release files | 05:19 |
| cjwatson | cr3: the milestone releases shouldn't have this problem. Dailies may be arbitrarily broken | 05:19 |
| cjwatson | noooooo | 05:19 |
| cjwatson | use a milestone :) | 05:19 |
| cr3 | I am using the milestone | 05:19 |
| cr3 | I will test the alternate from CD just in case the problem is with my preseeding | 05:19 |
| cjwatson | hmm, could be, that sort of problem shouldn't have got past basic testing | 05:20 |
| cr3 | cjwatson: I have had alternate install failures on herd 2, so I installed everything manually | 05:20 |
| cr3 | I mean, I installed the desktop manually, I couldn't test the alternate at all | 05:21 |
| cr3 | the alternate install from CD worked, so the problem is indeed with my preseed file | 05:38 |
| cr3 | I wonder when mirror/http/hostname is being used and when apt-setup/local0/repository is being used... | 05:40 |
| cr3 | so, I added the mirror to the local0 repository and incremented the number of the other repositories, just in case that made a difference | 05:44 |
| cr3 | aha! so the problem was that the installation seems to be alternating randomly between repositories when they specify the same target | 06:13 |
| cr3 | damnation! now the problem is that the alternate CD only has a partial repository on it! I would need to mirror main and restricted for a milestone which I don't think is possible | 06:36 |
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| stephans | anyone awake here? | 10:55 |
| cr3 | stephans: yep, what's up? | 10:59 |
| stephans | hey | 10:59 |
| stephans | are the repositories broken on the cds? | 11:00 |
| stephans | I have loop mounted the cd and also the dvd to a location on a web server... | 11:00 |
| cr3 | stephans: they're partial, but not broken as far as I know | 11:00 |
| stephans | ah | 11:00 |
| cr3 | stephans: the dvd might be complete though, what seems to be missing or conflicting or somesuch? | 11:01 |
| stephans | when i try to do an install off of the loopmounted cd the installer can not find the file: | 11:01 |
| stephans | cdrom-core-modules-2.6.17-10-386-di_2.6.17.1-10.34_i386.ude | 11:01 |
| stephans | b | 11:01 |
| stephans | This is a proble both with the cd and the dvd. | 11:02 |
| stephans | if I remove the instruction ks=... and let the install go off the inet... then it is ok | 11:02 |
| stephans | but takes for ever... | 11:03 |
| cr3 | stephans: you can specify alternate repositories in your preseed file, don't know about kickstart | 11:03 |
| stephans | the ks.cfg contains the source path to the web server with the loop mounted iso of the dvd | 11:03 |
| stephans | kickstart is supposed to be the same thing... | 11:04 |
| stephans | it is also easy to use... | 11:04 |
| cr3 | stephans: ok, so specify the loop mounted iso as primary mirror and another mirror as secondary | 11:04 |
| stephans | hmmm... | 11:04 |
| stephans | ok you stumped me... | 11:05 |
| stephans | I do not know how to do that.. | 11:05 |
| cr3 | I don't know how to do that with kickstart either | 11:05 |
| stephans | I have not found a good how to for the preseed stuff... | 11:05 |
| cr3 | stephans: the installation-guide-i386 package contains a useful example file | 11:05 |
| stephans | ok | 11:05 |
| cr3 | dpkg -L installation-guide-i386 | grep example | 11:05 |
| stephans | ok have to install it.... | 11:07 |
| stephans | what is the supported or official way to do unattended installs with ubuntu? | 11:10 |
| cr3 | stephans: kickstart and preseed are supported and official | 11:22 |
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