| hub | so I put a generic address | 12:13 |
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| hub | ok, fine | 12:13 |
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| geser | hub: you can add yourself as XSBC-Original-Maintainer | 12:19 |
| hub | yeah I did that too | 12:19 |
| hub | :-) | 12:19 |
| hub | sometime I just which error message where more verbose | 12:19 |
| hub | like pointing to that URL | 12:19 |
| hub | ... | 12:19 |
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| hub | I just wish I had more RAM | 12:26 |
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| tsmithe | hub, i uploaded the latest enblend-3.0, and gave you credit in the copyright file | 12:36 |
| tsmithe | hey you saw :) | 12:38 |
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| givre | bddebian: if you have some time to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4408 . It fix a bunch of translation issue, and fix priority (was extra instead of optionel) | 12:54 |
| givre | thanks :) | 12:55 |
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| bddebian | Dang, what do I look like the review king? :) | 01:04 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: yep | 01:04 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: yes | 01:06 |
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| givre | bddebian: yes the review king :) | 01:09 |
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| ajmitch | it don't fit | 01:14 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian and ajmitch | 01:14 |
| === ajmitch is not worthy | ||
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| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 01:16 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Do you have a gpib board? | 01:16 |
| LaserJock | at work yes | 01:16 |
| bddebian | Ah, I've been talking to the upstream maintainer and a guy trying to package the newer version | 01:18 |
| bddebian | We might need a tester ;-P | 01:18 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: oh ok | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: I run the National Instruments proprietary drivers | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | but I think I have an ancient (breezy or maybe dapper) Ubuntu partition on there I could use to test | 01:23 |
| ajmitch | and he admits to proprietary drivers | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | why not? | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | I use Nvidia and ATI proprietary drivers too | 01:24 |
| === ajmitch uses nvidia binary drivers | ||
| LaserJock | and madwifi but I'm not sure if that's proprietary or not exactly | 01:25 |
| bddebian | Actually he was asking me about firmware. Got any thoughts? I thought maybe a seperate package in Multivers? | 01:25 |
| bddebian | +e | 01:25 |
| ajmitch | so RMS is probably going to stalk me & hunt me down | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | hehe, we should have have nightmares of RMS standing over us with a gnu horn | 01:25 |
| Lathiat | apt-get install vrms | 01:26 |
| Q-FUNK | LaserJock: madwifi is not properietary. it's just sloppy code that the LKML would not touch with a 10-foot pole. | 01:26 |
| ajmitch | he's probably still in the Worker's Paradise | 01:26 |
| Lathiat | that program possibly needs updating for use with ubuntu to recognise multiverse | 01:26 |
| === bddebian files package removal request for vrms | ||
| === Lathiat smirks | ||
| LaserJock | wait, is madwifi the one for atheros cards? | 01:29 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 01:29 |
| Q-FUNK | yup | 01:29 |
| LaserJock | k, that's what I thought | 01:29 |
| LaserJock | it's always just worked so I didn't even know I needed it for a long time | 01:29 |
| givre | bddebian: forget the review request, i need to fix an other issue anyway. sorry to bother you ;) | 01:39 |
| bddebian | givre: No worries :-) | 01:40 |
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| cbx33 | hi guys | 01:51 |
| ajmitch | hello | 01:51 |
| cbx33 | if I have a package that installs a file | 01:51 |
| cbx33 | and in the next release of the pacakge, I want to change that file name | 01:52 |
| cbx33 | does just chaning it in the source and the .install file make the old one get remove and the new one added? | 01:52 |
| ajmitch | yes | 01:52 |
| cbx33 | excellent | 01:52 |
| ajmitch | you can move/rename files within packages without problems, as long as they're not conffiles | 01:52 |
| ajmitch | since conffiles are special | 01:52 |
| cbx33 | right | 01:55 |
| cbx33 | because conf files are preserved when a package is removed? | 01:55 |
| cbx33 | unless a purge is done? | 01:55 |
| ajmitch | and they're handled in interesting ways | 01:56 |
| cbx33 | heh | 01:57 |
| cbx33 | ajmitch, how does the version numbering work | 01:57 |
| cbx33 | 0.1.0-0ubuntu1 | 01:57 |
| cbx33 | for example | 01:57 |
| cbx33 | if I have a new upstream version | 01:58 |
| cbx33 | what does the next version become | 01:58 |
| cbx33 | 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 ? | 01:58 |
| lifeless | yes | 01:58 |
| cbx33 | hmm | 01:58 |
| cbx33 | thanks | 01:59 |
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| cbx33 | what's the best way to go about finding a memory leak | 02:12 |
| cbx33 | ? | 02:12 |
| RAOF | Using a memory-managed language :P | 02:13 |
| cbx33 | heh | 02:13 |
| RAOF | Alternatively, valgrind is apparently pretty good. | 02:13 |
| cbx33 | will it work wit ha python program? | 02:13 |
| RAOF | I don't think so. | 02:14 |
| RAOF | Hm. How do you leak memory in a python program? | 02:14 |
| jdong | RAOF: LOL | 02:14 |
| cbx33 | well i have no idea | 02:14 |
| jdong | RAOF: by maintaining erroneous references | 02:15 |
| cbx33 | I'm using the python-opengl bindings | 02:15 |
| jdong | RAOF: or by deleting objects with cross-references | 02:15 |
| jdong | RAOF: both of which defeat garbage collection | 02:15 |
| cbx33 | jdong, if i have a class which get's overwritten with a new instance of that smae class every now and then | 02:16 |
| cbx33 | will that cause a problem? | 02:16 |
| jdong | cbx33: that will not; | 02:16 |
| jdong | garbage collection will fix that | 02:16 |
| cbx33 | yeh thought so | 02:16 |
| cbx33 | hmm | 02:16 |
| jdong | well depends on the class | 02:16 |
| jdong | if you have a class containing A linking to B and B linking to A | 02:16 |
| cbx33 | it's a self written class nothing complicated, just a few gtk pixbufs | 02:16 |
| cbx33 | no....nothing like that | 02:16 |
| jdong | but you only do that when you want to break a language :D | 02:16 |
| jdong | lol | 02:16 |
| cbx33 | :) | 02:16 |
| jdong | cbx33: if it's leaking then it's probably the subsystem/bindings | 02:17 |
| cbx33 | damn | 02:17 |
| jdong | cbx33: btw you're Pete Savage, right? | 02:17 |
| cbx33 | that's a lot harder to fix | 02:17 |
| cbx33 | I am indeed | 02:17 |
| === jdong trying to remember names here :) | ||
| cbx33 | I'm hoping that's a good thing ;) | 02:17 |
| jdong | cool, nice to meet you :) | 02:17 |
| jdong | haha | 02:17 |
| cbx33 | nice to meet you too | 02:17 |
| _ion | ;-) | 02:17 |
| _ion | ma031714 < jdong> cbx33: btw you're Pete Savage, right? | 02:17 |
| _ion | ma031716 < cbx33> that's a lot harder to fix | 02:17 |
| jdong | _ion: haha :) | 02:17 |
| cbx33 | haha | 02:17 |
| cbx33 | true though | 02:18 |
| cbx33 | well if anyone is interested in an opengl photo viewer ;) | 02:18 |
| jdong | cbx33: you mean an opengl RAM drainer? ;-) | 02:18 |
| cbx33 | jdong, of course ;) | 02:18 |
| cbx33 | it was a little project to see if I could program opengl.... | 02:18 |
| cbx33 | and...well...I can | 02:18 |
| _ion | gliv - image viewer using gdk-pixbuf and OpenGL | 02:18 |
| ajmitch | f-spot uses opengl bindings now too :) | 02:19 |
| RAOF | How does it get its opengl bindings? | 02:19 |
| jdong | libmono-opengl :D | 02:19 |
| jdong | or whatever | 02:19 |
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| RAOF | Because I've been looking at packaging Tao, and it seems horrible from a packaging point of view | 02:19 |
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| cbx33 | _ion, cool | 02:21 |
| cbx33 | phimage does things slightly different | 02:21 |
| cbx33 | I just wish it didn't start eating system resources | 02:22 |
| cbx33 | it must be the bindings | 02:22 |
| ajmitch | RAOF: it bundles Tao | 02:23 |
| ajmitch | why is Tao horrible from a packaging point of view? | 02:23 |
| RAOF | Becasue I couldn't find any way to get it to install in a sane place. | 02:23 |
| RAOF | It either just builds a bunch of .dlls, which I'd then have to manually install into the GAC, or it really, really wants to be built in /usr | 02:24 |
| cbx33 | anyway | 02:24 |
| cbx33 | nn all | 02:24 |
| RAOF | Hm, also, is there anywhere where I can view the NEW queue? It's on launchpad somewhere, isn't it? | 02:25 |
| ajmitch | launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue | 02:26 |
| bddebian | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue | 02:26 |
| RAOF | Thanks muchly. Just want to see where Specto's gone :) | 02:26 |
| bddebian | Hmm, what to do, what to do.. | 02:28 |
| LaserJock | I'm sure there are some science bugs around .... | 02:29 |
| bddebian | Well I'm debating between gpib and reviews :-( | 02:30 |
| jdong | LOL I love myself | 02:30 |
| ajmitch | review! | 02:30 |
| jdong | <jdong> Oh btw, Kp isn't Kp. It's actually Kp+Ki+Kd | 02:30 |
| === jdong loves explaining legacy code thru the Oh btw method. | ||
| RAOF | Well, you could apply my debdiff to gnome-compiz-manager and review that :) | 02:30 |
| === ajmitch wonders if anyone understands jdong | ||
| Hobbsee | nope | 02:30 |
| LaserJock | nope | 02:30 |
| ajmitch | that's alright then | 02:31 |
| ajmitch | hello Hobbsee | 02:31 |
| _ion | I wish compiz-extra from REVU would get in in time. | 02:31 |
| jdong | ajmitch: hehe EE stuff | 02:33 |
| jdong | PID control | 02:33 |
| jdong | I kinda deceptively named some variables | 02:33 |
| RAOF | _ion: I wish gandalfn would get back to me so I could fix gnome-compiz-manager | 02:33 |
| pochu | RAOF: do you mean desktop-effects? | 02:35 |
| RAOF | pochu: No, I mean gnome-compiz-manager, a nice simple Compiz configuration thingy | 02:35 |
| pochu | RAOF: is it similar to desktop-effects? | 02:35 |
| RAOF | pochu: Kinda. | 02:36 |
| RAOF | But a more complete set of configuration thingies. | 02:36 |
| pochu | RAOF: that's fine :) | 02:37 |
| RAOF | Hm. How long should I wait for a reply before just fixing the trivial problems raised in the review. | 02:37 |
| LaserJock | RAOF: what were the problems? | 02:38 |
| RAOF | Build dep on a too-low version of debhelper, DebianMaintainer Spec. | 02:39 |
| RAOF | Oh, and bumping compat up from 4 to 5 | 02:39 |
| RAOF | http://raof.dyndns.org/gnome-compiz-manager.debdiff should fix them all. | 02:39 |
| LaserJock | why would you need to wait? is the package on REVU one by gandalfn? | 02:41 |
| RAOF | Yes. | 02:41 |
| RAOF | It's not my package, I just want to get it in :) | 02:41 |
| LaserJock | well, it's kinda silly to be waiting on just that :/ | 02:42 |
| RAOF | Otherwise I'd be summoning the king of review, bddebian, for another review :) | 02:42 |
| RAOF | Yeah. But I don't really want to step on anyone's toes. | 02:42 |
| bddebian | If someone else reviews it and give an ack, I'll fix those two errors and upload | 02:44 |
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| bddebian | Gah, where the fsck are these build/foo dirs coming from.. | 03:32 |
| RAOF | bddebian: More tarball.mk fun? | 03:33 |
| Q-FUNK | bddebian: which build/foor dirs? | 03:34 |
| Q-FUNK | bddebian: the targets? | 03:35 |
| bddebian | Gah, I found it.. Sheesh. Hmm | 03:37 |
| RAOF | Nice monologue :) | 03:38 |
| bddebian | He does cp -a linux-gpib build in debian/rules | 03:38 |
| LaserJock | anybody have a PDA recommendation? | 03:54 |
| bddebian | They all suck | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | good to know ;-) | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: sucks! | 03:54 |
| bddebian | Yeah he does :-( | 03:55 |
| crimsun | nokia 770? | 03:55 |
| hub | n800 | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | maybe I should just stick to sticky notes that I lose all the time :-) | 03:57 |
| zul | LaserJock: why dont you use the gnome sticky notes applet? | 03:57 |
| _ion | "Nokia", as in "one of the most vehement lobbyists of software patents in EU"? :-) | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | zul: I need it when I'm not at my computer | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | I have iCal/Google Calendar for on-computer | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | all I need is something so I don't forget meetings :/ | 03:59 |
| crimsun | got a watch or a mobile phone? | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | google calendar +SMS works ok for some things | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: both, but it hasn't proven very successful | 04:00 |
| crimsun | how is /adding/ gadgetry going to help, then? | 04:00 |
| LaserJock | ummm, it'd make me feel better? :-) | 04:00 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Do you have a sec to take a quick look at something for me? | 04:06 |
| crimsun | bddebian: boarding a plane shortly, tomorrow? | 04:07 |
| bddebian | Damn. Sure, thx | 04:07 |
| ajmitch | hi crimsun, bye crimsun :) | 04:08 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: How about you? http://pastebin.us/14617 | 04:09 |
| ajmitch | what about me? | 04:10 |
| bddebian | What's wrong there? | 04:11 |
| ajmitch | you expect me to know with that little context? | 04:11 |
| bddebian | Yep | 04:11 |
| ajmitch | too bad | 04:11 |
| bddebian | I don't know how it's working at all :-) | 04:12 |
| bddebian | But when it trys to cd into build/language/python it chokes | 04:12 |
| ajmitch | well you're changing the directory it's working in later | 04:12 |
| bddebian | Did you see my note about how he was trying to do it? | 04:14 |
| ajmitch | didn't say much | 04:14 |
| bddebian | How about this? http://pastebin.us/14619 | 04:18 |
| ajmitch | doesn't say why it's not creating the dir | 04:20 |
| bddebian | The dir is there | 04:27 |
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| RAOF | bddebian: Hey, doesn't that try to cd to "build/language/python/build/language/python"? | 04:44 |
| RAOF | You could possibly add a "&& cd ../../../" before the "done" in the for loop | 04:45 |
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| === _ion often prefers something like for foo in bar; do (cd somewhere; ...); done | ||
| === RAOF doesn't know enough make syntax to be confident spawning subshells :) | ||
| _ion | It's sh syntax. | 04:48 |
| RAOF | Hm. Maybe I'm confusing myself with cdbs, but aren't debhelper rules files make files? | 04:48 |
| === RAOF goes and checks. | ||
| _ion | Well, all the Makefile rules are sh command lines. | 04:48 |
| RAOF | Oh, well that makes it easier. | 04:49 |
| _ion | (with make escaping) | 04:50 |
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| bddebian | Well shit, I can't get any of them to work :( | 05:12 |
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| RAOF | bddebian: What's not working? Still same error message? | 05:16 |
| RAOF | Let me help, you're awesome :) | 05:16 |
| bddebian | Yeah, still same problem :-( | 05:19 |
| RAOF | Wanna pastbin the problem? | 05:19 |
| RAOF | You're now doing one of "&& cd ../../../" | 05:19 |
| RAOF | Or just spawning the command in a new shell? | 05:20 |
| bddebian | Tried the cd ../../../ to no avail | 05:20 |
| bddebian | What do you mean spawning command in a new shell? | 05:20 |
| RAOF | Just putting it all in ( do_stuff ) things. | 05:21 |
| RAOF | bddebian: Maybe you could echo `pwd` in the loop? | 05:21 |
| RAOF | For debugging purposes? | 05:21 |
| bddebian | It was already: | 05:22 |
| bddebian | for python in $(PYVERS); do \ | 05:22 |
| bddebian | (cd build/language/python;\ | 05:22 |
| bddebian | python$$PYVERS build/language/python/setup.py build;)\ done | 05:22 |
| bddebian | Oh crap, I left that path in there. Grr | 05:23 |
| RAOF | Ok, I can help by merely making you see your own mistakes :) | 05:23 |
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| bddebian | heh | 05:25 |
| RAOF | Working? | 05:25 |
| bddebian | Dunno yet, it takes forever to build :-( | 05:25 |
| RAOF | I need to get some pbuilder action on my new Core Duo 2 laptop. :) | 05:25 |
| jdong | RAOF: if you have a fat upload link help me encode 5 seasons of family guy! | 05:26 |
| jdong | x264 can really use one of those Core 2's | 05:26 |
| RAOF | jdong: 1Mbit, soon. Probably not fat enough :) | 05:27 |
| jdong | RAOF: that's fat enough to help me work on family guy :D | 05:27 |
| jdong | and I definitely have permission from FOX and Seth MacFarlane :) | 05:28 |
| bddebian | heh | 05:28 |
| RAOF | Thinking of encoding, no matter how tempted you are you should not buy "Monty Python's Personal Best" | 05:28 |
| RAOF | It seemed like it should be a bunch of cool Flying Circus sketches, and it is... kinda. | 05:29 |
| RAOF | Except, they're truncated. They only show half-sketches! | 05:29 |
| === RAOF wants to kill whichever exec decided that would be a good idea. With a sword! | ||
| === tonyyarusso starts his pbuilder dl... | ||
| === RAOF looks at upgrading to 24Mbit/1Mbit ADSL2+ | ||
| bddebian | RAOF: Enjoy: http://pastebin.us/14622 :-) | 05:42 |
| tonyyarusso | Weeeee dialup | 05:42 |
| RAOF | Dialup FTW! | 05:42 |
| tonyyarusso | indeed | 05:43 |
| elkbuntu | dialup > nothing | 05:43 |
| RAOF | bddebian: Isn't that exactly the same setup you had before? | 05:44 |
| tonyyarusso | elkbuntu: true | 05:44 |
| bddebian | RAOF: It fails the same, no matter what | 05:44 |
| === RAOF considers getting the source package. | ||
| RAOF | bddebian: So doing: "cd build/language/python && python$pyver setup.py install --root=/tmp/buildd/gpib-3.2.08+svn1451/debian/tmp && cd ../../../ ;" doesn't work? :( | 05:45 |
| RAOF | Or the equivalent part from the debian/rules file. | 05:46 |
| RAOF | :( | 05:46 |
| RAOF | bddebian: The source packages are on REVU, right? | 05:46 |
| bddebian | Oh hmm, maybe I forgot the && | 05:51 |
| joejaxx | bddebian: if there is already a package in revu but it has not been touched in months how can i upload source for that package to be revu'd? | 05:51 |
| bddebian | joejaxx: If you just upload it it will overwrite it, but ideally you should try to contact the original uploader before hijacking a package | 05:51 |
| joejaxx | bddebian: alright | 05:52 |
| joejaxx | ah | 05:55 |
| joejaxx | Toadstool: ping :) | 05:55 |
| tonyyarusso | Whoo, pbuilder moved on to the Bs! And with that, I'm off. | 06:00 |
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| RAOF | bddebian: Worked it out yet? Or should I really have a look at the source :) | 06:29 |
| bddebian | Nah, I'm busy with Oblivion now ;-) | 06:30 |
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| RAOF | :) | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: drinking your way to oblivion? ;-) | 06:39 |
| bddebian | Heh, probably should be :) | 06:39 |
| ajmitch | hah | 06:40 |
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| joejaxx | lol | 06:40 |
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| joejaxx | how is everyone doing? | 06:41 |
| ajmitch | water? you trying to kill me? | 06:41 |
| LaserJock | I just wonder which one of us will be the first to go into rehab because of Ubuntu? ;-) | 06:42 |
| bddebian | haha | 06:42 |
| ajmitch | I do not have a problem, ok?\ | 06:42 |
| LaserJock | suuuurrrre ... | 06:43 |
| ajmitch | :) | 06:43 |
| LaserJock | an my eye twitch is just from doing too much research ;-) | 06:46 |
| bddebian | hehe | 06:48 |
| RAOF | Mine is from doing to little :-| | 06:48 |
| RAOF | Why must Maple hate me? :'( | 06:48 |
| ajmitch | heh | 06:49 |
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| LaserJock | :( | 06:54 |
| LaserJock | #kubuntu-devel is dead | 06:54 |
| nixternal | is it? | 06:55 |
| joejaxx | LaserJock: :( | 06:58 |
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| bddebian | Gnight gang | 07:12 |
| nixternal | boo | 07:13 |
| nixternal | darn, just missed him | 07:13 |
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| LaserJock | anybody know why I would lose localhost in ifconfig? | 08:17 |
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| Fujitsu | LaserJock, why would localhost be there in the first place? | 08:19 |
| Fujitsu | lo, you mean? | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 08:20 |
| Fujitsu | It seems to go missing for me after about 30 seconds if I don't log on, then I have to bring it up manually. | 08:20 |
| Fujitsu | Actually, I fixed that a few days back by adding it to /etc/network/interfaces. | 08:20 |
| Fujitsu | I think I managed to stuff my installation up when I installed pre-Herd 1. | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | right ... I got rid of /etc/network/interfaces | 08:20 |
| Fujitsu | Why'd you do that? | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | network-manager was throwing fits | 08:21 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 08:21 |
| Fujitsu | NM will deactivate lo, then | 08:21 |
| Fujitsu | So you'll need to put it back in. | 08:22 |
| LaserJock | so is it mutually exclusive? | 08:22 |
| Fujitsu | Is what? | 08:24 |
| Fujitsu | NM won't touch any interfaces that are in /etc/network/interfaces. | 08:24 |
| Fujitsu | If you just have lo in there, no problem should be had. | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | ok, seems to work | 08:25 |
| LaserJock | it's just my static eth0 that doesn't play nicely | 08:25 |
| Fujitsu | That will make it ignore eth0 entirely. | 08:26 |
| LaserJock | ok, so I got lo back and am letting my router play static dhcp | 08:29 |
| LaserJock | that should work | 08:29 |
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| AnAnt | bdmurray: ping | 09:20 |
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| StevenK | (in terms of LP accounts) | 09:22 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: we've been in negotiations with the Powers That Be | 09:24 |
| StevenK | Neat. | 09:24 |
| ajmitch | Laser_away has been busy in #launchpad | 09:24 |
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| AnAnt | bdmurray =? bddebian ? | 09:25 |
| coNP | AnAnt: false | 09:29 |
| Fujitsu | StevenK: From what I've seen, it's quite a while away yet. | 09:29 |
| AnAnt | coNP: thanks | 09:29 |
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| StevenK | Fujitsu: :-/ | 09:31 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 09:52 |
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| ajmitch | morning daniel | 10:17 |
| dholbach | hey Andrew | 10:20 |
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| ajmitch | dholbach: how was your weekend? | 10:26 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: very very good - lots of cool stuff :-) | 10:27 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: how was yours? | 10:27 |
| ajmitch | fairly quiet & uneventful :) | 10:27 |
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| Lutin | siretart: ok, thanks. I made some changes on it and it should work as expected now | 11:39 |
| geser | is there a policy for updates of native packages during UVF? | 11:40 |
| tsmithe | geser, did you get my message about --disable-portaudio ? | 11:44 |
| geser | tsmithe: yes | 11:45 |
| tsmithe | cool :) | 11:46 |
| siretart | Lutin: http://dunnewind.net/~lutin/resource/update-maintainer? | 11:48 |
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| geser | siretart, dholbach: are updates of native packages allowed during UVF? | 11:54 |
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| ajmitch | more dholbachs | 11:54 |
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| Lutin | siretart: err. sorry. s/resource/code | 12:02 |
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| shawarma | Hobbsee: What's KLIK? | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: http://klik.atekon.de/ | 01:16 |
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| AnAnt | Hobbsee: ping, can you please review acon ? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4397 | 01:22 |
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| shawarma | Hobbsee: Looks ghastly. | 01:23 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: yup | 01:23 |
| Hobbsee | AnAnt: that'll need a UVFe | 01:24 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: huh ? | 01:25 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: what's that ? | 01:25 |
| Hobbsee | !uvf | 01:25 |
| ubotu | uvf is Upstream Version Freeze. For an exception, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#head-9523bc4076ff011324d67cddc97969ec609618d6 | 01:25 |
| AnAnt | even universe is freezed ? | 01:26 |
| Hobbsee | of course... | 01:26 |
| Hobbsee | !schedule | 01:26 |
| ubotu | Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 01:26 |
| Hobbsee | it froze later, but yes | 01:26 |
| shawarma | Since we're not in FF yet, it'd be OK to fix this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lighttpd/+bug/80818 right? | 01:26 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 80818 in lighttpd "lighttpd doesn't use FAM" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 01:26 |
| AnAnt | i see | 01:27 |
| Hobbsee | oh wait | 01:27 |
| Hobbsee | oh, it's only a bugfix, not a new upstream versoin | 01:27 |
| Hobbsee | sub ubuntu-universe-sponsors, etc. | 01:27 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: you mean acon ? | 01:27 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 01:27 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: yes it is a bug fix not a new package | 01:28 |
| Hobbsee | then it's not a part of that freeze | 01:28 |
| StevenK | So it'd be fine to fix even after FF | 01:28 |
| AnAnt | where's the schedule btw ? | 01:28 |
| StevenK | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule | 01:28 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: yep | 01:28 |
| AnAnt | StevenK: thanks | 01:28 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: you could even after feature freeze - as long as it's not a new upstream version - ie, going from 0.4.1 to 0.4.2, etc | 01:29 |
| shawarma | Hobbsee: It involves enabling a new feature in an existing package. Doesn't that violate FF? | 01:29 |
| shawarma | Or am I interpreting "feature" too broadly? | 01:29 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: so you can review it ? | 01:29 |
| Hobbsee | not sure. wouldnt think so? | 01:30 |
| Adri2000 | I think FF for universe means new packages | 01:30 |
| shawarma | Adri2000: SurE? | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: can | 01:30 |
| shawarma | Adri2000: Has it been discussed already? | 01:30 |
| Adri2000 | I don't think so | 01:30 |
| shawarma | Adri2000: Or is it just painfully obvious to everyone but me? :-) | 01:30 |
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| pirast | has uvf already happened? | 01:59 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 01:59 |
| pirast | argh | 01:59 |
| pirast | i hate exceptions | 01:59 |
| StevenK | Then don't file them? | 01:59 |
| StevenK | Sounds fairly simple to me. | 02:00 |
| Hobbsee | they're nto as bad as SRU's | 02:00 |
| StevenK | Don't start that again. :-) | 02:00 |
| pirast | stevenk, yeah you are right | 02:01 |
| pirast | i dont know why i do this, bug it is a fairly critical bug | 02:01 |
| pirast | and although i dont get money and i dont profitate from the success of ubuntu, i want to get this fixed ;-) dont know why | 02:01 |
| shawarma | pirast: What is the problem? | 02:02 |
| pirast | broken bcm43xx support | 02:02 |
| pirast | the kernel driver requires a firmware version 4 | 02:03 |
| pirast | but the bcm43xx-fwcutter in universe can not extract it from version 4 | 02:03 |
| pirast | that came in a later version which is in debian but not ubuntu | 02:03 |
| StevenK | I can't see that package in Debian... | 02:04 |
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| pirast | bcm43xx-fwcutter | 02:05 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: so for acon do I have to file a UVF or it can be reviewed since it is a bug fix ? | 02:05 |
| pirast | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/bcm43xx-fwcutter | 02:05 |
| Hobbsee | AnAnt: afaik, it's a bugfix | 02:05 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: ok, can you review it then ? | 02:05 |
| Hobbsee | no. i'm tired, i'm going to bed RSN. | 02:05 |
| AnAnt | ok | 02:06 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:19 |
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| Lutin | heya bddebian | 03:20 |
| bddebian | Hello Lutin | 03:20 |
| geser | Hi bddebian | 03:21 |
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| bddebian | Heya geser | 03:21 |
| Lutin | bddebian: about mlt++ : itFTBFSs 'cause it requires mlt, which is still in new ;). could you archive the package ? | 03:21 |
| shawarma | Do any of you guys have a Sparc box with feisty running on it? | 03:21 |
| bddebian | Lutin: I figured that after I did it. Why archive it, mlt might make it one day? :) | 03:22 |
| zul | shawarma: check with fabbione | 03:22 |
| Lutin | bddebian: it won't make it for feisty I think ;) | 03:22 |
| shawarma | zul: He doesn't seem to be around these days and last I asked, he seemed reluctant to give me access.. | 03:23 |
| zul | shawarma: oh thats right he is on vacation.. | 03:23 |
| bddebian | I wish I had one | 03:23 |
| zul | shawarma: yeah i doubt he would give someone access | 03:24 |
| shawarma | zul: Ah, ok. He said something about it not being on very often since it uses 1.21 Giga watts or something. | 03:24 |
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| tsmithe | bddebian, ping? | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | hum i could order this and put it in my buildd rack http://cgi.ebay.com/SUN-Ultra-10-Ultra-Sparc-II-i-450MHz-1024MB-CD_W0QQitemZ220083985921QQihZ012QQcategoryZ20328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem | 03:32 |
| tsmithe | don't smash your hand if you do | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | lol | 03:32 |
| bddebian | imbrandon: Or you could just send it to me :) | 03:32 |
| tsmithe | wow very cheap | 03:32 |
| bddebian | tsmithe: pong | 03:32 |
| imbrandon | tsmithe, yea thats what i was thinking and it has a gig of ram | 03:33 |
| imbrandon | no hdd | 03:33 |
| imbrandon | but i have a ton of hdd's arround ( all types ) | 03:33 |
| tsmithe | bddebian, aha. the copyright stuffs in wired. do i still include the files if they aren't used in producing the final binary? | 03:33 |
| tsmithe | ie, in debian/copyright | 03:33 |
| imbrandon | hum payday is tomarrow, i'll see if its still that cheap tomarrow and bid on it | 03:34 |
| bddebian | Hmm, good question. I don't really know :-( | 03:34 |
| tsmithe | and wrt to AUTHORS, if i have that as a doc, then surely referencing it is enough, cos people can look in /usr/share/doc | 03:34 |
| tsmithe | anyone know? | 03:34 |
| bddebian | If you say so. As I said, license/copyright stuff isn't my bag :-( | 03:34 |
| tsmithe | does that mean you'll advocate? | 03:36 |
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| bddebian | tsmithe: You need a second anyway so if you can get one, sure | 03:36 |
| tsmithe | cool | 03:37 |
| tsmithe | able to take a look at enblend (apologies, apologies) while you are at it? | 03:37 |
| bddebian | It's building atm | 03:39 |
| tsmithe | bddebian, danke. it's a bit heavy, as hub said. | 03:42 |
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| pirast | i have a .install file and in the source directory is a file called dvdrip-icon-hq.svg stored. | 03:58 |
| pirast | now, i want to tell dpkg to install it to /usr/share/pixmaps/dvdrip.svg | 03:59 |
| pirast | via the .install file. how can i do this? | 03:59 |
| crimsun | "in the source directory" is a bit vague. | 04:02 |
| bddebian | pirast: iirc you can't rename files with a .install, you would have to do it in rules | 04:02 |
| bddebian | But I'm probably wrong :) | 04:02 |
| pirast | bddebian, :-) | 04:02 |
| pirast | bddebian, okay, then I will use rules | 04:02 |
| bddebian | tsmithe: Does this thing ever build? | 04:03 |
| tsmithe | bddebian, yup | 04:03 |
| tsmithe | needs more than 512MiB apparently | 04:03 |
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| geser | bddebian: no, you are right: dh_install cannot rename files or directories (from the manpage) | 04:14 |
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| bigon | hi, what must I do with the uploader field in the control file? should I use X-Original-Uploaders or something? | 04:21 |
| geser | bigon: XSBC-Original-Maintainer | 04:23 |
| geser | you can use Lutin's script to do it | 04:24 |
| bigon | so I must move the name from uploaders in XSBC-Original-Maintainer | 04:24 |
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| geser | bigon: yes, from Maintainer to XSBC-O-M and put "Ubuntu Core Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>" for main/restriced or "Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>" for universe/multiverse into Maintainer | 04:26 |
| bigon | ok | 04:27 |
| bigon | thx | 04:27 |
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| lionel | geser: would you have time to review tapioca (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4407) ? | 04:36 |
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| geser | lionel: reviewed | 05:19 |
| lionel | geser: thanks ! | 05:19 |
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| daviey | Hi, can somebody help me create a deb file. It will contain either 5 tar achieves or foldes than on installation is copied to a location and on installation deletes them. | 05:24 |
| daviey | and on uninstalling deletes them, it should say | 05:24 |
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| rexbron | TheMuso: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/soma-0702070910/soma-2.3.1+dfsg1/daemon/somad.h | 05:57 |
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| rexbron | TheMuso: does the excption at the bottom of the header licence pass muster? | 05:57 |
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| geser | zul: bug #86315 has a debdiff which fixes the current FTBFS of xen-meta | 06:01 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 86315 in xen-meta "[FTBFS] Patch for xen-meta 0.0.1-2ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86315 | 06:01 |
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| zul | geser: thanks will take a look | 06:02 |
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| lionel | geser: tapioca uploaded again (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4414) | 06:05 |
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| siretart | what would you prefer 2.3.1-1~ubuntu1 or 2.3.1-0ubuntu1? the package in question is a 'fakesync' from an not yet published 2.3.1-1 debian version. | 06:17 |
| jdong | squiggly lines pay me 5% royalties | 06:18 |
| jdong | ;-) | 06:18 |
| siretart | I'm not too happy with 2.3.1-1ubuntu1, since it is 'higher' than '2.3.1-1' | 06:18 |
| dholbach | -1build1 | 06:18 |
| dholbach | (is what I'd do) | 06:18 |
| siretart | dholbach: that a) higher and b) will be overwritten by next sync (which may or may not be wanted in this case) | 06:19 |
| dholbach | you said it's a fakesync, no? | 06:19 |
| dholbach | isn't b) what you'd want? | 06:20 |
| siretart | 'fakesync' from unpublished version | 06:20 |
| siretart | the 'final' debian version might differ | 06:20 |
| dholbach | then do a <current>+unreleased2.3.1-1 :-) | 06:20 |
| siretart | hm. I think I'll go with 2.3.1-1~ubuntu1... | 06:21 |
| siretart | if he changes his unreleased 2.3.1-1 version, we do ~ubuntu2, if he uploads, we become -1ubuntu1 | 06:22 |
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| tsmithe | anyone able to help with a couple of reviews? | 07:48 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 07:59 |
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| zul | hey ajmitch | 08:03 |
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| Reefa | Howdy eeryone, Was hoping someone could shed some light on this error for me, with amd64 ubuntu 6.10 and with ubuntu i368 6.10, it loads live fine but when I actually install and reboot I get, tty can't start job control. Any ideas? | 08:05 |
| Nafallo | Reefa: maybe a supportchannel such as #ubuntu would suite you better? | 08:06 |
| Reefa | Yeah, tried there no one seems to have any idea | 08:06 |
| Reefa | If you want to know whats wrong you gotta ask someone who knows a room full of people who need help isn't really the place | 08:06 |
| Nafallo | Reefa: this is still not a supportchannel. you might want to try again, or search google :-) | 08:07 |
| Reefa | Yeah on google I found a lot of people with the same problem but no answers, obviously not gonna get any here either | 08:07 |
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| matt_good | I've uploaded a new package and got a comment that the maintainer field needs to be an @ubuntu.com email address | 08:22 |
| matt_good | do I need to get someone with an ubuntu address to be a maintainer, or is there a way I can register for a @ubuntu.com address? | 08:22 |
| geser | matt_good: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField | 08:22 |
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| matt_good | geser: yes, the comment pointed me to that page | 08:31 |
| matt_good | there is no Debian maintainer at this time | 08:31 |
| matt_good | I'd like to get it into Debian eventually, but some of the dependencies are not yet available | 08:32 |
| matt_good | I guess I could use ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com | 08:33 |
| geser | use ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com as maintainer | 08:34 |
| geser | and if you want add yourself as XSBC-Original-Maintainer | 08:34 |
| matt_good | ok | 08:35 |
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| tsmithe | @pity jdong for not recognising the supreme british masters^Wspellers | 09:23 |
| tsmithe | i said pity! | 09:23 |
| jdong | you mean soupreme? | 09:24 |
| jdong | and those are spellours to you. | 09:24 |
| tsmithe | "* Ubugtu shows jdong a photo of mneptok for not recognising the supreme british masters^Wspellers" | 09:24 |
| tsmithe | at least Ubugtu can spell recognise correctly :P | 09:24 |
| jdong | courrectly. | 09:24 |
| jdong | and it's libzedelib too right? | 09:25 |
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| jdong | better cheque your filesystmes. | 09:25 |
| _ion | recougnise | 09:25 |
| jdong | fscq /dev/sda | 09:25 |
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| jdong | lol | 09:25 |
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| jdong | I mean loul | 09:25 |
| _ion | Shouldn't that be "partes"? | 09:27 |
| jdong | haha :) | 09:27 |
| lifeless | ajmitch: congrats btw | 09:29 |
| ajmitch | lifeless: hm? | 09:30 |
| lifeless | on the council position | 09:30 |
| ajmitch | ah, thanks | 09:30 |
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| ajmitch | lifeless: you have the code for your possible-conflicts tool? I'd like to put it into something a bit more readable, like an html table | 09:33 |
| lifeless | the codes currently not open source, and its fate is unknown, this is for a couple of reasons | 09:35 |
| lifeless | one is that I used another internal library that isn't released to write it | 09:35 |
| lifeless | that should be getting released any day now | 09:35 |
| ajmitch | right | 09:35 |
| lifeless | the other reason is that its meant to hook into launchpad, and the how of that is quite significant | 09:36 |
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| ajmitch | so, write my own tool for it for now, or process the output you have | 09:36 |
| lifeless | I think you want to process the output I have - its non trivial processing the information efficiently | 09:37 |
| lifeless | but I'm happy to tweak what I output to make it more processable | 09:37 |
| ajmitch | yeah, running through it with split() is a bit annoying to parse | 09:38 |
| lifeless | as a data point, the database for it is 1.7GB | 09:38 |
| ajmitch | that's not too bad | 09:38 |
| ajmitch | I've got a BTS mirror that's > 12 GB to generate some other lists | 09:39 |
| lifeless | the bulk of that is email though right ? | 09:39 |
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| ajmitch | yes, I only use the .summary files for now, which are small | 09:40 |
| lifeless | this is like 6 tables | 09:40 |
| lifeless | it doesn't even have message summaries in it | 09:40 |
| ajmitch | so it takes a little while to run? | 09:40 |
| ajmitch | how much RAM does python use while going through all that? | 09:41 |
| lifeless | ~30 minutes, and not much | 09:41 |
| lifeless | but getting to that is non trivial | 09:41 |
| ajmitch | not bad | 09:41 |
| lifeless | early versions used ~ a GB and took 2.5 weeks | 09:41 |
| ajmitch | heh | 09:41 |
| ajmitch | from 2.5 weeks down to 30 min, is a good improvement | 09:43 |
| lifeless | yes, part of that is incremental processing though | 09:44 |
| lifeless | it would still take ages if it had to bootstrap again | 09:44 |
| lifeless | The current format should be trivial to manipulate in awk/perl/python | 09:44 |
| lifeless | or even cut | 09:45 |
| lifeless | but that said, if you have requests, do let me know | 09:45 |
| lifeless | I spent a lot of time writing it, I really want it to be usable | 09:45 |
| ajmitch | yes, I didn't spen much time on that at all, I just preferred to use the source directly if it was available | 09:46 |
| lifeless | yeah, sorry about that | 09:46 |
| ajmitch | thanks for writing it, it does look quite useful | 09:46 |
| ajmitch | do you update the output often? | 09:46 |
| lifeless | it runs hourly | 09:46 |
| ajmitch | great | 09:46 |
| lifeless | so new content at x:30 | 09:46 |
| ajmitch | I'll probably pull it down & create html each day or every few hours | 09:47 |
| ajmitch | & maybe do some more bugfiling | 09:47 |
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| mr_pouit | does someone have an idea how to fix Bug 85898 ? | 10:14 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 85898 in kxgenerator "[feisty] FTBFS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85898 | 10:14 |
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| crimsun | did you check it? [./po/pl.po, that is] | 10:26 |
| keescook | superm1: I got in trouble for the upload. :) | 10:34 |
| crimsun | bypassed UVF or something? | 10:34 |
| keescook | I'm working on a mess of fixes for the packaging. | 10:34 |
| keescook | nah, there were packaging changes between versions, and a mess of binary NEWs | 10:34 |
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| keescook | and then mithrandir looks at the packaging and saw a bunch of stuff that was not right; I've been fixing it up. | 10:35 |
| keescook | I should have a new version shortly, I just needed to tests some bits of it. | 10:35 |
| crimsun | ah. | 10:35 |
| superm1 | keescook, what happened? | 10:35 |
| superm1 | keescook, what was wrong packaging wise? | 10:36 |
| keescook | superm1: I've got a list of stuff I've fixed up, one sec | 10:36 |
| superm1 | k | 10:36 |
| keescook | the big one is that nothing is ever supposed to ship in /home | 10:37 |
| keescook | so I'm rearrange this a bit to use /etc/mythtv for those files | 10:37 |
| superm1 | keescook, could you come to #ubuntu-mythtv and we'll chat about the changes? | 10:37 |
| keescook | /media is only for removable media, so I moved this to /var/lib/mythtv/recordings | 10:37 |
| keescook | superm1: yeah, good idea | 10:37 |
| imbrandon | man 44k messgaes in your imap inbox will slow it down a bit | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | hum | 10:39 |
| TheMuso | imbrandon: What format are you using? | 10:39 |
| TheMuso | mbox? | 10:39 |
| imbrandon | maildir | 10:39 |
| TheMuso | oh ok | 10:39 |
| ajmitch | 44k messages is nothing compared to what I store locally | 10:40 |
| imbrandon | localy i wouldnt mind | 10:40 |
| _ion | What imapd are you using, btw? | 10:40 |
| imbrandon | but remote kinda sucks | 10:40 |
| imbrandon | couier ( s? ) | 10:40 |
| imbrandon | postfix , courier , fetchmail , spamassasian | 10:41 |
| _ion | I've seen people claiming dovecot is quick with large maildirs, but i have no real proof of that. | 10:41 |
| _ion | Perhaps someone has made a scientific comparison. | 10:42 |
| mr_pouit | crimsun, po/pl.po is really empty. Should I remove it in clean target ? | 10:42 |
| crimsun | mr_pouit: is it a merge? Check if pristine upstream ships it that way | 10:43 |
| mr_pouit | this is a sync, it is exactly debian package | 10:43 |
| mr_pouit | but it doesn't ftbfs in debian (nor in my pbuilder when I requested the sync) | 10:43 |
| ajmitch | dovecot is fairly good | 10:44 |
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| ajmitch | no motu-uvf people around? | 10:45 |
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| ajmitch | hi bddebian, LaserJock | 10:46 |
| LaserJock | hi | 10:46 |
| bddebian | Heya gang, ajmitch, LaserJock | 10:46 |
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| bddebian | Jesus, something has to be seriously wrong with Enblend | 10:48 |
| cbx33 | hey bddebian | 10:48 |
| bddebian | Hi cbx33 | 10:48 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: 44k in IMAP is bad? | 10:48 |
| bddebian | Welcom gudjon ;-) | 10:49 |
| gudjon | Thanks | 10:49 |
| bddebian | Gah, +e | 10:49 |
| LaserJock | hi cbx33 | 10:49 |
| cbx33 | anyone know where I can find some hardware icons for a diagram? | 10:49 |
| cbx33 | hey LaserJock | 10:49 |
| cbx33 | i need a router | 10:49 |
| cbx33 | server | 10:49 |
| cbx33 | client | 10:49 |
| cbx33 | switch | 10:49 |
| bddebian | Visio? ;-P | 10:49 |
| cbx33 | bddebian, noooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 10:49 |
| cbx33 | just need the icons | 10:49 |
| cbx33 | will do the rest in oodraw | 10:49 |
| cbx33 | or inkscape | 10:49 |
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| LaserJock | _ion: how big is big for dovecot? | 10:51 |
| bddebian | gudjon: I haven't had a chance to rebuild yet since my machine is dead trying to build this damn enblend | 10:52 |
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| lionel | cbx33: openclipart has good icons | 10:53 |
| cbx33 | lionel, where do i get it? | 10:54 |
| lionel | (chekc package openclipart-svg) | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | openclipart.org I think too | 10:54 |
| gudjon | Ok | 10:54 |
| cbx33 | crikey | 10:54 |
| cbx33 | big | 10:54 |
| cbx33 | but cool | 10:54 |
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| LaserJock | ajmitch: do you have an IMAP inbox? | 11:43 |
| ajmitch | nope | 11:45 |
| ajmitch | well I do for work mail | 11:45 |
| ajmitch | but it's tiny | 11:45 |
| LaserJock | I just wonder if mine is too big | 11:46 |
| _ion | laserjock, imbrandon: http://student.iu.hio.no/~s132278/reports/disney_imap_maildir.pdf | 11:46 |
| crimsun | I have one with ~750k at school. | 11:46 |
| LaserJock | my inbox is 63MB and total I have 319MB of IMAP for my account | 11:47 |
| LaserJock | I guess it'd be really slow if it was too much | 11:48 |
| crimsun | ~3.4GB here, and it's slow as turtles | 11:48 |
| _ion | Apparently dovecot wins on large mailboxes because of its indexing. | 11:48 |
| tsmithe | imap eh... | 11:50 |
| tsmithe | why's that better than pop3? | 11:50 |
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| lionel | tsmithe: you can read it wherever you are ? :) | 11:51 |
| LaserJock | it stays on the server | 11:51 |
| LaserJock | exactly | 11:51 |
| tsmithe | hmm... my pop mail stays on the server.. | 11:51 |
| lionel | tsmithe: but pop does not know anything to flasg (like read/not read) | 11:52 |
| tsmithe | ah | 11:52 |
| tsmithe | yes | 11:52 |
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| lionel | and when you arrive at a new place, you have to mark has read all the mail you read before... | 11:52 |
| LaserJock | tsmithe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imap has more info ;-) | 11:53 |
| tsmithe | lionel, good point | 11:53 |
| _ion | Also you can fetch the headers separately with IMAP. I could be wrong, but i think you have to fetch the entire messages with POP3 in order to get the headers. | 11:53 |
| tsmithe | wow... | 11:54 |
| tonyyarusso | Hrm, the program I'm trying to package is normally installed via a "untar and run a script from the tarball" method. | 11:54 |
| tsmithe | run that script in rules? | 11:54 |
| tsmithe | now i wonder whether gmail does imap | 11:54 |
| lionel | nope | 11:54 |
| LaserJock | you can pop3 your gmail to an IMAP server though | 11:54 |
| tonyyarusso | tsmithe: Something like that. (This is my very first attempt at packaging anything, btw) | 11:55 |
| LaserJock | although that's kind of a round about way of doing it | 11:55 |
| tsmithe | tonyyarusso, ah well good luck! | 11:55 |
| tonyyarusso | :) | 11:55 |
| tsmithe | LaserJock, yeah. i'll just stick with pop3 | 11:55 |
| lionel | imap tends to consume more resources than pop3 | 11:55 |
| lionel | so ISP usually prefers give pop access | 11:56 |
| tonyyarusso | tsmithe: preinst? | 11:56 |
| tonyyarusso | postinst rather | 11:56 |
| _ion | tsmithe: It's also possible to fetch separate MIME parts of messages with IMAP; e.g. fetch the text first and then choose whether to save the huge attachment or not. | 11:56 |
| tsmithe | well i doubt it... | 11:56 |
| tsmithe | tonyyarusso, ^^ | 11:56 |
| tonyyarusso | tsmithe: how come? | 11:56 |
| tsmithe | surely you want the files installed into the package, by that script? | 11:56 |
| tsmithe | preinst/postinst are run on install | 11:56 |
| tsmithe | not on package build | 11:56 |
| tonyyarusso | ah, ok | 11:57 |
| tsmithe | :) | 11:57 |
| tonyyarusso | hmm | 11:57 |
| tsmithe | out of battery - br | 11:57 |
| tsmithe | *brb | 11:57 |
| tsmithe | ok obviously didn't miss much :) | 12:01 |
| tonyyarusso | uh, nope. | 12:03 |
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