[12:40] <dejx> Hello.
[12:42] <dejx> Could anybody please tell me how to connect to crypted wireless network on xubuntu (latest), encryption is wpa
[12:49] <grazie> dejx: have you looked at this link? >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[12:50] <grazie> dejx: or this one >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[12:51] <dejx> am, wcard works fine i just cant connect
[12:51] <dejx> with network-admin
[12:51] <dejx> there's no option about security
[12:55] <kristjans> is there any good ftp client for xubuntu?
[12:59] <kumamoto> kristjans, yeah it is called ftp
[12:59] <kristjans> it's
[12:59] <kristjans> command line?
[01:00] <dejx> yes
[01:00] <kristjans> i'm not too comfortable with command line applications though :(
[01:01] <kumamoto> they are simplest ones
[01:01] <kumamoto> try then using gftpd
[01:01] <kristjans> gftp or gftpd?
[01:02] <kumamoto> http://www.gftpd.org/
[01:02] <kristjans> but there is
[01:02] <kristjans> no such functinality as that i could save my files directly to a ftp server?
[01:03] <dejx> anyway....... what's up with my wlan connection?:) how can i connect on wpa?:)
[01:03] <dejx> it work on ssids w/out encryption
[01:03] <kumamoto> I thought the whole idea of ftp is to copy files from one machine to another
[01:04] <kumamoto> i didn't know it can transfer the file then take it back
[01:04] <kristjans> uh... i just want to save the html files to the ftp server
[01:05] <kumamoto> that is what ftp does
[01:05] <kristjans> i don't like the idea of saving the file and then transferring, because it would add an extra step.
[01:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Kind of a required step - you can't ftp a file that's not stored in a place accessible by the ftp client.
[01:07] <kumamoto> maybe someone else can explain it better than I
[01:08] <kristjans> in gnome and kde i could do that. it probably saved the file in temporary folder, but at least i didn't have to do that
[01:23] <malnilion> Does anybody know how I could check to see if some flac files of mine are improperly tagged with id3 tags?
[01:24] <malnilion> And subsequently remove them?
[01:26] <malnilion> Wait a sec, nevermind
[01:26] <dejx> do i need to install wpa_supplicant if i want connect to wpa wlan ?
[01:34] <DaBomb> hello
[01:34] <kalikiana> hello, DaBomb :)
[01:35] <DaBomb> i have a problem
[01:35] <kalikiana> !ask
[01:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:36] <DaBomb> ok, i using a webbased irc client but i cant use /nick
[01:36] <kumamoto> lol
[02:47] <nonewmsgs> hello
[02:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sup
[02:50] <nonewmsgs> i have a question
[02:51] <nonewmsgs> i instaled xubuntu on my one notebook (amd 900mhz, 768mb ram, 20gb hd)
[02:52] <nonewmsgs> i get an error everytime i try to add a package to it
[02:52] <nonewmsgs> cannot be installed to your computer type (i386). either application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided not to support your computer type."
[02:52] <nonewmsgs> even for things like solitare or openoffice
[03:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Seems to be a problem w/ sources.
[03:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> In Synaptic -> settings -> repositories, make sure they're *all* enabled, then reload the packages index.
[03:03] <nonewmsgs> thanks a lot mate.  ill try that now
[03:05] <Mlittle> So I want to turm my xubuntu box into a small time router, taking in the internet connection via ethernet and sharing it via crossover cable with my Widows PC
[03:05] <Mlittle> how possible is this?
[03:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mlittle: Seems quite possible. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[03:10] <Mlittle> I'll get reading, thanks!
[03:22] <nonewmsgs> yay i can download now
[03:22] <nonewmsgs> now i just need my wireless card
[04:43] <Thrallie> answer to all your problems: sudo rm -rf /
[04:51] <ReKlipz> hey guys, i was wondering how i access a shared folder on my desktop computer, running windows xp, from my xubuntu laptop
[05:08] <vrkhans> hi
[05:08] <j1mc> hi vrkhans
[05:09] <vrkhans> i never burn an iso image before, and any one tell me how i can burn xubuntu cd, i already download the image, and i have nero
[05:11] <vrkhans> does any one know how i can burn a bootable cd
[05:11] <vrkhans> from an iso image
[05:11] <j1mc> hmmm...  yes.  have you tried searching on google?
[05:11] <vrkhans> not yet , i am little lazy ;-)
[05:11] <vrkhans> thought to check here first
[05:12] <j1mc> http://www.wizardskeep.org/mainhall/tutor/neroiso.html
[05:12] <j1mc> just search for "nero burn iso"  :)
[05:12] <j1mc> if you need help burning an ISO from in xubuntu, we could be of more help.  :)
[05:13] <vrkhans> i want to burn xubuntu which i just downloaded , so i can install , but i never burn an iso image before
[05:13] <vrkhans> after wasting couple of cds
[05:13] <vrkhans> i thought to check first
[05:13] <vrkhans> :-)
[05:15] <vrkhans> well thanks alooooot
[05:15] <j1mc> i hope what i've posted helps!
[05:15] <ChaosEddie> hey guys, i know j1mc and i heard from him that xubuntu needs testers, so im going to try and go for it with him
[05:15] <j1mc> did it help?
[05:16] <ChaosEddie> my other nick is posingaspopular if you see me around
[05:16] <j1mc> thanks, ChaosEddie.
[05:17] <j1mc> i have some detail up at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing but it's not complete yet
[05:17] <j1mc> i just started working on it today
[05:18] <ChaosEddie> okay cool well like i said, just let me know
[05:19] <j1mc> ok.  sounds good.
[05:20] <ChaosEddie> should i be on launchpad?
[05:22] <j1mc> yeah.  if you don't already have a launchpad or wiki account, then it'd be good to set one up.
[05:23] <ChaosEddie> nah i have both, i was jw
[05:23] <j1mc> i think if you have a LP account, then it's also good on the wiki.
[05:24] <j1mc> you would need an account to post your test results back to the wiki
[05:24] <ChaosEddie> more details please
[05:27] <j1mc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing  down at the bottom of the page, select "current"
[05:27] <j1mc> ... i wouldn't advise to post more details there now, cos we're going to reorganize it.
[05:27] <j1mc> however, that's what we're going for.  that kind of thing.
[05:28] <ChaosEddie> k i clicked 'join the team' on lp
[05:28] <j1mc> sweeeet
[05:30] <ChaosEddie> i dont understand how people keep all the wiki urls straight
[05:31] <j1mc> :)  me neither!  there's a lot of them.
[05:31] <ChaosEddie> i barely even know my own
[05:35] <knight> hi all
[05:35] <knight> I want to know if the issue of ltsp and xubuntu is fixed
[05:35] <knight> where the thinclients are able to turn the server off
[05:41] <SilentDis> hello :)
[05:42] <j1mc> hi SilentDis
[05:42] <SilentDis> just setup Xubuntu, and it's defaulted to a resolution of 640x480.  Laptop it's on can go 800x600.  Settings > Display Settings only lists 'default', nothing else.  How do I bump my res up?  xorg.conf editing?
[05:43] <j1mc> SilentDis, do you know your monitor specs?
[05:43] <j1mc> or the LCD specs?
[05:44] <SilentDis> not directly... it's an old Toshiba Sat 2535CDS, rather well documented, so I can probably poke a bit and find 'em.
[05:44] <j1mc> the command to edit the configuration file is:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[05:45] <j1mc> one of the options is to select the available resolutions.
[05:45] <ChaosEddie> xorg.conf is the way to edit X in all ubuntu iirc
[05:45] <j1mc> yes, you can edit it manually that way, too.
[05:45] <SilentDis> that much I know (been running ubuntu 6.10 on my main 'puter for 8 months or so now).  wasn't sure what was all on a default xubuntu install that's different from a normal ubuntu install :)
[05:46] <j1mc> :)  that command works on all of the *buntus.  :)
[05:46] <SilentDis> ahhh cool, that helps tremendously, thanks :)
[05:46] <j1mc> yw!
[05:46] <j1mc> it works on debian, too
[05:47] <SilentDis> *blush* stupid user question of the day:  xubuntu, how do I get to my term window?  lmao
[05:47] <j1mc> applications -> system -> terminal
[05:48] <SilentDis> tyty :)
[05:48] <j1mc> yw
[05:49] <j1mc> good night, all.  i'm headed out.
[06:16] <Cooner750> Hello.
[06:18] <Cooner750> I'm running on an Intel Pentium 4, 1.5GHz. 256MB Memory. Samsung CD-RW Drive. I am able to get Xubuntu booted from the CD, although the boot process seems to take abnormally long. Once it gets up and running, I can start the Installer. However, when it's copying files, for some reason the system "locks up" at a percentage between 30 and 45%, and the CD drive just starts going "click-t-click-t-click"
[06:18] <Cooner750> I have "checked the CD for errors", it's fine, 0 Checksum errors. I've also run the Memory Test, that passed
[06:20] <Cooner750> Does anyone know what my problem could be?
[06:26] <Cooner750> Well this place is dead
[06:28] <knight> ???
[06:29] <knight> how fast did you copy the cd
[06:30] <knight> for the installation CD
[06:30] <knight> Cooner750?
[06:30] <Cooner750> knight: 16x
[06:30] <SilentDis> I just plugged a usb thumb drive in.  what device is it in /dev so I can mount it?
[06:31] <knight> oh ok
[06:31] <knight> sometime
[06:31] <knight> 10x or 8x will do a better job
[06:31] <knight> try that
[06:34] <knight> try that to see what happens
[06:34] <SilentDis> how do I mount a usb drive?  I'm not sure what it's listed under in /dev
[06:35] <knight> for the usb device let me see
[06:35] <SilentDis> knight, thanks :)
[06:36] <Cooner750> knight: Going to try 8x I suppose
[06:36] <Cooner750> :-/
[06:36] <knight> yeah I had a problem like that before
[06:37] <knight> SilentDis
[06:37] <SilentDis> yes?
[06:37] <knight> you want to know what is listed in /dev
[06:37] <knight> or you just want to mount the usb drive
[06:38] <SilentDis> I was looking for what device a usb drive would be assigned to.
[06:38] <SilentDis> the latter :)
[06:40] <SilentDis> or, a command so I can poke it out myself would help :)
[06:40] <SilentDis> tried looking through /sys for clues, but I assume I wasn't looking in the right place hehe
[06:41] <knight> lspci
[06:41] <knight> nah I dont think that will do it
[06:42] <SilentDis> that just lists the bus location on the pci bus of the usb host controller
[06:44] <tictacaddict> I compiled a custom kernel and now I can't load the nvidia kernel module :(
[06:45] <tictacaddict> I tried compiling a new module with nvidia-kernel-source and module-assistant as well
[06:45] <knight> SilentDis take a look
[06:45] <knight> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2112189
[06:46] <SilentDis> knight, thanks :)
[06:49] <knight> SilentDis take a look at this one  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2118755
[06:54] <SilentDis> the lsusb command looks useful.  appears that the kernel isn't auto creating the device for whatever reason.  I'm hitting the web to see what I can find though :)
[06:56] <knight> ok cool
[06:58] <Cooner750> I think I will use a different burning application this time too
[06:59] <knight> cool
[06:59] <knight> what did you use now
[07:01] <Cooner750> knight: I used BurnCDCC the first time
[07:01] <Cooner750> I'm using CDBurnerXP this time
[07:02] <Cooner750> I think I just spotted the problem already
[07:02] <Cooner750> BurnCDCC allowed me to set the speed all the way up to 52x if I wanted to. CDBurnderXP 3 says that the maximum speed my old Samsung drive can burn at is 12x
[07:03] <knight> you see
[07:03] <knight> cool
[07:04] <knight> I feel happy to be able to help
[07:06] <posingaspopular> msg nickServ
[07:06] <posingaspopular> whoops
[07:06] <Cooner750> BurnCDCC trying to  force the drive to burn at 16x probably caused some weird issues
[07:10] <Cooner750> Burn Successful. Going to reboot and try again
[07:12] <knight> kool
[07:20] <Cooner750> No go this time, even worse
[07:22] <Cooner750> Now it's dropping to BusyBox, which I know from experience is Debian's built in shell
[07:22] <Cooner750> http://pastebin.ca/363127
[07:25] <crimsun> Cooner750: with the desktop cd, I presume?
[07:25] <Cooner750> crimsun: Yes
[07:25] <crimsun> I recommend using the alternate cd
[07:26] <knight> yup
[07:27] <knight> the alternative cd
[07:27] <tictacaddict> I think depmod fixed my problem.  I don't know why.
[07:27] <knight> lol alternative
[07:27] <knight> thats funny
[07:30] <Cooner750> I guess
[07:30] <RememberPOL> nvidiafb: Unknown symbol i2c_bit_add_bus
[07:30] <RememberPOL> Any idea..?
[07:31] <RememberPOL> It's causing X to crash :/
[07:32] <knight> wow
[07:32] <knight> alot of people come to get help
[08:09] <RememberPOL> Anyone know how to reinstall the latest kernel with apt-get?
[08:09] <ChaosEddie> RememberPOL: very good question. i wouldn't mind learning myself
[08:09] <ChaosEddie> try this http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t376.html
[08:10] <RememberPOL> 2.6.17-11-generic seems to be the latest
[08:10] <RememberPOL> here's a better question
[08:10] <RememberPOL> why, when i'm running that kernel, does it say SMP is enabled even though I have a single-processor 32-bit system?
[08:11] <RememberPOL> and when I run 2.6.17-10-386 ... it doesn't
[08:11] <RememberPOL> Linux pol-laptop 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:12] <RememberPOL> Linux pol-laptop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:27] <RememberPOL> How can you check recently removed packages in synaptic?
[08:29] <RememberPOL> Is there an apt-get log to check for recently removed packages?
[09:44] <esc_on_anakin> Yo!
[11:17] <Alltaken> hi guys, i've just installed Xubuntu (off the install disc, not the live disc)  and it never offers me the option to put in a username, only the option to put in a password
[11:18] <Alltaken> so i am curious what the default username is. since i cannot login otherwise
[11:20] <Alltaken> anyone?
[11:20] <Alltaken> nobody has had the problem of never being able to login from the begining?
[11:23] <fudgey> never?
[11:23] <fudgey> so you can only login as one user??
[11:25] <Alltaken> nope, when installing, it gives me the option to specify a password
[11:25] <Alltaken> but not a username
[11:25] <Alltaken> then later once the installation is finished, it says "input your username and password
[11:26] <Alltaken> of which i tried sudo, root, the hostname......
[11:26] <Alltaken> so i don't even think a single user exists
[11:28] <fudgey> hmm
[11:28] <fudgey> can u even access it in text mode?
[11:28] <Alltaken> how do you mean?  i can load the recovery up, but i still can't login to anything since it denies my passwords also
[11:28] <fudgey> are you using gdm?
[11:29] <fudgey> or kdm
[11:29] <Alltaken> i get to the graphical login screen fine after installation (installed it a couple of times to make sure i didn't miss the settings)
[11:29] <fudgey> hmm
[11:29] <fudgey> then you gotta get to the text side
[11:29] <fudgey> ctrl+alt+del
[11:29] <fudgey> or back space
[11:29] <Alltaken> yep
[11:29] <fudgey> then
[11:29] <fudgey> you type
[11:29] <fudgey> adduser
[11:30] <fudgey> adduser name
[11:30] <fudgey> dang I forgot how to add the pass
[11:30] <fudgey> and its group
[11:30] <fudgey> =/
[11:30] <fudgey> but yeah you do that cmd and you will have a user
[11:30] <Alltaken> ok
[11:30] <Alltaken> i can do some research into that
[11:30] <fudgey> but if it doesnt show the login submit bar then somethings wrong
[11:31] <Alltaken> yeah i figured something was wrong
[11:31] <fudgey> text bar
[11:31] <fudgey> hmm
[11:31] <Alltaken> i'm assuming its because i am using the alternate install
[11:31] <Alltaken> rather than the live disc
[11:31] <fudgey> nah
[11:31] <fudgey> should have same outcomes
[11:31] <Alltaken> hmmm
[11:31] <fudgey> just dif installation methods
[11:31] <fudgey> cuz some computers dont have much virtual mem
[11:32] <fudgey> like myn
[11:32] <fudgey> so I used text installer
[11:32] <Alltaken> ok i used the graphical installer
[11:32] <Alltaken> perhaps i try text next time
[11:32] <fudgey> alternate is text
[11:33] <Alltaken> oh, well its blue and yellow, if that is text ;)
[11:33] <Alltaken> i sound like someone buying a car based on colours :P
[11:34] <Alltaken> but yeah will try the adduser comand and see how that goes,  cheers for the help.
[11:34] <Alltaken> gotta get to bed, will tackle it in the morn.
[01:57] <tuxcrafter> hello, what kind of program does openoffice use when it prints to file (postscript) because I have to bugs in it. Want to see if reinstalling the postscript tool used by openoffice solves the problem. (i use xubuntu 6.10 edgy openoffice.org 2.04
[02:35] <blizz> a recommandable ftp client? gftp somehow sucks :)
[02:39] <grazie> blizz: there isn't a better gui client for linux I don't think
[03:11] <vrkhans> hi
[03:11] <vrkhans> i failed in installing xubuntu
[03:13] <vrkhans> for some reason, it just failed and on my monitor screen no signal found signal appear
[03:13] <vrkhans> i dont know what to do
[03:13] <tuxcrafter> hello, what kind of program does openoffice use when it prints to file (postscript) because I have to bugs in it. Want to see if reinstalling the postscript tool used by openoffice solves the problem. (i use xubuntu 6.10 edgy openoffice.org 2.04
[03:16] <vrkhans> any help
[03:24] <hyper_ch> vrkhans: try #openoffice.org
[03:26] <grazie> vrkhans: do you know what video card you have?
[03:47] <vrkhans> its an onboard
[03:47] <vrkhans> my its compatiable with linux
[03:47] <vrkhans> because i am mandrake running
[03:50] <fuel> hi i recently installed xubuntu along with kubuntu
[03:50] <fuel> however when i login....nothing starts on xubuntu....only the wall paper is loaded
[03:50] <fuel> how to restore it ?
[03:56] <fuel> any help ?
[04:02] <mobetz> is anyone here good at wpa_supplicant and ndiswrapper?
[04:04] <crimsun> way to stick around.
[04:33] <frankabel> can anybody help me to connect my xubuntu with a winXP computer by ad-hoc wireless?
[04:34] <frankabel> I really don't have much idea about wireless connection in neither OSs ;)
[05:03] <pong> 
[05:18] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:19] <maxamillion> hello
[05:21] <grazie> hello
[05:32] <grazie> maxamillion: do you know the procedure for submitting bug fixes?
[05:33] <maxamillion> grazie: sure
[05:33] <maxamillion> grazie: what's up?
[05:33] <grazie> maxamillion: send it to motu?
[05:33] <maxamillion> grazie: no, post it on launchpad
[05:34] <hyper_ch> grazie: I got the pda working to sync with windows... but had to use w2k... xp just refuses it's duty and produces BSODs
[05:34] <maxamillion> grazie: make a launchpad account, look up the package and click on "bugs" and you can report one there
[05:34] <grazie> maxamillion: a few ppc things that don't seem be getting sorted
[05:35] <grazie> maxamillion: but will they be actioned?
[05:35] <grazie> hyper_ch: great!
[05:36] <maxamillion> grazie: actioned?
[05:37] <grazie> maxamillion: if you submit a patch will it be implemented? I'm talking ppc here...
[05:39] <maxamillion> grazie: well, first a devel (or team member with privilages) will have to officially confirm the bug and then it will be assigned to a team or devel and it will then be fixed as either a bug fix for security or will be fixed "upstream" and implemented in the next release
[05:40] <grazie> maxamillion: yeah I understand that...but I get the feeling that hardly any ppc bugs are being looked at though
[05:41] <maxamillion> grazie: oh, i don't doubt that they are being ignored
[05:42] <grazie> maxamillion: it's almost worth setting up a separate repo
[05:43] <maxamillion> grazie: almost, accept there aren't any devs to work on it
[05:44] <grazie> maxamillion: grazie's repo!
[05:44] <maxamillion> grazie: i think debian, gentoo and yellowdog are the distros with the best powerpc support
[05:44] <maxamillion> anyhoo ... i have class, i shall be back later
[05:45] <grazie> max_at_class: sea ya
[06:02] <slow-motion> bye
[06:16] <RememberPOL> Is anybody else missing the 'profile' module of their python2.4 package..?
[06:24] <RememberPOL> Does anyone know why the module 'profile' doesn't come with the python package? (either version 2.4 or 2.5)...
[08:41] <Stu_2> silly question:  would one pronounce it "zoo-boon-too?"  And if so, how should one say "Xfce?"
[08:41] <posingaspopular> zoo bun too is the way i say it
[08:41] <posingaspopular> x, f, cee e
[08:41] <Stu_2> ahh.. there is a faq...
[08:42] <Stu_2> couldn't find it at first
[09:00] <rmd_> anyone know of a quick/easy way to get Thunar custom actions to use ffmpeg to convert .flv files?
[09:42] <Vilhelms> I just removed the xubuntu-desktop package but whenever I try to run XGL in gnome it loads gnome, but it loads the xfce theme+icons but the bar at the top is gnome's, the splash is also gnome's and none of my keyboard shortcuts work.
[09:42] <Vilhelms> This is unless I start Xgl in display 0
[09:42] <Vilhelms> But then it doesn't start Xgl at all
[09:42] <Vilhelms> What could be going on?
[09:53] <ephemeros> yo \m/
[09:53] <posingaspopular> why are you throwing up the horns?
[09:54] <ephemeros> hmmm...
[09:54] <ephemeros> i'm a metaleer
[09:54] <posingaspopular> metal-head?
[09:54] <posingaspopular> its cool
[09:54] <ephemeros> ;)
[09:55] <ephemeros> this is how i show respect :D
[09:55] <posingaspopular> hahaha thats hilarious
[09:55] <ephemeros> mabybe for you
[10:02] <Vilhelms>  lmfao
[10:11] <hyper_ch> Seveas: you're here?
[10:25] <Vilhelms> I just removed the xubuntu-desktop package but whenever I try to run XGL in gnome it loads gnome, but it loads the xfce theme+icons but the bar at the top is gnome's, the splash is also gnome's and none of my keyboard shortcuts work.
[10:25] <Vilhelms> But if I start Xgl in Display 0 it just loads gnome like normal but it does not load Xgl
[10:27] <neozen> meep
[10:27] <neozen> allo all
[10:28] <grazie> hi
[10:28] <neozen> what's new grazie?
[10:29] <grazie> I'm playing with Zend Studio
[10:29] <neozen> O.o
[10:29] <grazie> you
[10:30] <neozen> finished my C compiler
[10:30] <neozen> ....finally
[10:30] <grazie> you wrote your own compiler?
[10:30] <grazie> respect
[10:30] <neozen> ...for class
[10:31] <neozen> compiles subset of c
[10:31] <grazie> do you use lex and yacc?
[10:31] <neozen> supports everything except structs and types other then int
[10:32] <neozen> .....but still does strict type checking
[10:32] <crimsun> CLite?
[10:32] <neozen> lol
[10:32] <grazie> v.Clite
[10:32] <crimsun> that's what I'm using in mine
[10:32] <grazie> new to me :(
[10:33] <neozen> welll considering its mostly implemented in java...... its pretty useless
[10:33] <neozen> ::grins::
[10:33] <crimsun> heh, I remember we had to write one called Triangle
[10:33] <crimsun> those were the days...
[10:33] <neozen> hehehe
[11:03] <neozen> hoallo corvolino
[11:06] <neozen> room so quiet today
[11:06] <neozen> ...where's the newbies?
[11:14] <__Krush> Hi I am running Xubuntu in text mode on an AMD64 and cannot make any cron jobs work! Any help?!?
[11:15] <Vilhelms> I'm removed the xubuntu desktop package but whenever I use the Xgl session it loads gnome, with the xfce theme and all my keyboard shortucts don't work. If I start xfce-setting-show the theme goes back to the normal gnome theme but my keyboard shortcuts still don't work. This is my startxgl script http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6642/plain/
[11:18] <neozen> ah... there they are
[11:19] <neozen> welcome dude
[11:19] <neozen> I take it .... you're running edgy?
[11:19] <neozen> vil?
[11:20] <Vilhelms> Yup
[11:20] <neozen> ..in my experience
[11:20] <neozen> ..keyboard shortcuts are broken in edgy
[11:20] <neozen> ...they don't work
[11:20] <Vilhelms> They work fine
[11:20] <Vilhelms> If I just boot in gnome
[11:20] <neozen> ..yeah
[11:21] <neozen> ...then you're running gnome
[11:21] <neozen> ...not xfce
[11:21] <Vilhelms> I am running gnome
[11:21] <Vilhelms> The interface looks exactly like gnome
[11:21] <Vilhelms> But the last xfce theme I had is loading
[11:21] <Vilhelms> But if I run xfce-setting-show it goes away
[11:21] <neozen> well.... they both use gtk themes
[11:22] <Vilhelms> Yes, I understand that... That's what I figured was happening.
[11:22] <Vilhelms> But why would my shortcuts not work then?
[11:22] <neozen> ....because shortcut keys ... are broken... in xubuntu edgy
[11:22] <neozen> ..as I said
[11:22] <neozen> *in the version of xfce distributed w/ edgy
[11:23] <neozen> ...understand me now?
[11:23] <Vilhelms> I'm not using xubuntu
[11:23] <Vilhelms> I installed Ubuntu originally
[11:23] <neozen> ...ok
[11:23] <Vilhelms> But I installed the xubuntu-desktop package
[11:24] <Vilhelms> Then I removed the xubuntu-desktop package, and this is happening :(
[11:24] <neozen> ...ok
[11:24] <neozen> when you removed ... did you purge xubuntu-desktop?
[11:24] <Vilhelms> Purge? I don't think so
[11:24] <Vilhelms> I just did "sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop"
[11:25] <neozen> remove removes the packages
[11:25] <neozen> purge removes the package AND its configuration files
[11:25] <neozen> sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-desktop
[11:26] <neozen> ...and next time you install something
[11:26] <neozen> ...use aptitude instead of apt-get
[11:26] <neozen> ..the syntax is the same
[11:26] <Vilhelms> Oh
[11:26] <Vilhelms> What's the difference then?
[11:26] <neozen> but it will kill off any dependencies installed with the package when you remove it
[11:27] <neozen> ...so ... for example
[11:27] <Vilhelms> Oh okay
[11:27] <Vilhelms> I understand
[11:27] <neozen> however
[11:27] <neozen> ...it only does this...
[11:27] <neozen> when you installed the application with aptitude
[11:27] <Vilhelms> I did sudo apt-get atuoremove to remove all the unused dependencies (or so apt told me to do)
[11:27] <neozen> you mean autoclean
[11:27] <neozen> ...I don't think they do the same thing
[11:27] <Vilhelms> no autoremove
[11:27] <neozen> hmm
[11:28] <neozen> new to me
[11:28] <Vilhelms> Ah, I see
[11:28] <Vilhelms> Well I just remembered I had installed an upgrade to xfce with a different package not in xubuntu-desktop so I'm removing that :)
[11:28] <Vilhelms> And seeing if it helps
[11:28] <Vilhelms> I can't purge
[11:28] <Vilhelms> E: Invalid operation purge
[11:29] <neozen> because you shouldn't have xfce-settings-show if you don't have xfce installed
[11:29] <Vilhelms> Yeah thats what I figured
[11:29] <Vilhelms> I didn't remember about that package until now though
[11:30] <Vilhelms> I'm just trying to remember what the name was lol
[11:31] <Vilhelms> Is there a way to list installed packages?
[11:32] <neozen> yes
[11:32] <Vilhelms> How?
[11:32] <neozen> there would have to be
[11:32] <neozen> .....I don't know
[11:32] <Vilhelms> Oh heh :)
[11:32] <Vilhelms> let me try to see if what i removed worked
[11:32] <Vilhelms> brb
[11:32] <Vilhelms> thx for the help so far :)
[11:33] <neozen> ok
[11:33] <neozen> krush
[11:33] <neozen> u still there?
[11:35] <neozen> /ctcp ping #xubuntu
[11:35] <neozen> lol
[11:46] <Vilhelms> I removed everything xfce and its still doing it :(
[11:46] <Vilhelms> I don't mind the theme thing but I don't know why my keyboard shortcuts don't work
[11:50] <__Krush> any help with sorting out cron??
[11:56] <__Krush> hi neo
[11:57] <__Krush> Hi Neozen
[11:57] <GullyFoyle> i have an old PII 233mhz laptop with 96 megs of RAM. how well will xubuntu run on it? any opinions?
[11:58] <__Krush> Hi Gully
[11:58] <__Krush> Guess Xubuntu might be bit cramped on 233Mhz with 96Mb
[11:59] <GullyFoyle> minimum requirements page says 128 megs to run the cd
[11:59] <GullyFoyle> hrm
[12:00] <GullyFoyle> guess i'll go back toDSL or Vector
[12:01] <__Krush> Or maybe fluxbuntu
[12:01] <__Krush> Read that it would run on 233Mhz h/w
[12:04] <kumamoto> GullyFoyle, you can use it for a firewall if you don't have one
[12:05] <kumamoto> I have a 1.5GHZ AMD Athlon with 256MB RAM and at time it seems to be bogged down
[12:05] <kumamoto> I have the basic apps installed
[12:06] <kumamoto> I bet it will install but it will be slow as hell
[12:06] <GullyFoyle> i'll try vector again
[12:07] <GullyFoyle> DamnSmall doesnt have good PCMCIA support
[12:07] <kumamoto> GullyFoyle, true
[12:07] <kumamoto> Tried puppy?
[12:07] <GullyFoyle> no
[12:10] <n-iCe-> HEllo
[12:11] <n-iCe-> how can i use gnome partition?
[12:14] <n-iCe-> ??
[12:18] <kumamoto> didn't know there was gnome partition? is there also a kde partition or a xfce partition or maybe a fluxbox partition
[12:18] <kumamoto> plz do tell