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kibbuntu112:13
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cpk1kibbuntu: you cant start kopete from tty1, its just odd that something like kopete would cause a complete lockup12:14
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BluesKajdunno if beryl runs on dapper12:15
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kibbuntuhowever thanx vega and cpk^_^12:15
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EltranI R NOOB U12:17
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hydr0hello all12:18
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flaccidBluesKaj: compiz perhaps?12:19
flaccid!compiz12:19
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:19
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cntbhttp://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?arcane01.wav=arcane still brings install missing plugins on my FF@ in dapper12:21
LeeJunFanhow do you ident a pcmcia card now that cardctl is gone? lspcmcia is crap - nothing is implemented yet.12:21
cntbhttp://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?arcane01.wav=arcane still brings install missing plugins on my FF2 in dapper12:21
cntbsoryy repeating12:21
Kotterre12:22
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BluesKajcntb, did you install the mplayer plugin12:25
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koyo001helo12:26
vegasmcpcwhat do you guys recommend for a file system for a large raid 5 array?12:26
koyo001i have a problem12:27
cntbit is not in repos just downloaded from http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=mplayerplug-in&filename=mplayerplug-in-2.80.tar.gz&use_mirror=heanet12:27
koyo001try to do add remove12:27
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koyo001but it says another system is running12:27
vegasmcpc!reiser12:27
ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.12:27
koyo001the add remove12:27
vegasmcpc!xfs12:27
ubotuxfs: X font server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 192 kB12:28
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koyo001anyone able to help me with this problem12:29
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LeeJunFan!adeptfix | koyo00112:31
ubotukoyo001: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:31
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vegasmcpc!ext212:32
vegasmcpc!ext312:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:32
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org12:32
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willyalguien sabe como compilar c12:39
willycodigo c12:39
willy#kubuntu-es12:39
LjL!build-essential | willy12:40
ubotuwilly: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)12:40
LjLgcc nombrefichero.c -o nombreoutput12:40
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willya pero fijate12:41
willyque me hablaban de un compilar tipo borland c12:41
willyllamado anjuta12:41
[GuS] willy, here is in english only12:41
willypero ya lo baje12:41
willyok in english12:41
willyi'msorry12:41
willythe compilator anjuta how see what have me12:42
willy?12:42
[GuS] =)12:42
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cpk1willy: you want to see if you have anjuta installed?12:43
willyyea,12:44
cpk1willy: aptitude show anjuta12:44
willyi download with synaptic12:44
willyok ok12:44
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willyok ok i have anjuta installed12:46
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cntbBluesKaj: too much voodoo in install FF2 lib  is in  /usr/local/lib/firefox-2.012:46
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cntbBluesKaj: found an script in /usr/bin/firefox12:47
cpk1willy: there is also anjuta-common and anjuta-dev don't know if you want those too but you can use aptitude show to check for those as well12:47
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cntbso how can a mplayerplugin happily compile ? BluesKaj what a mess ?12:47
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willyok cpk112:51
willytanks12:51
willythanks12:51
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cntbfirefox is in some exotic place12:53
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cntbhow can I trace a working app in memory12:53
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cntbwill ps aux  give me location of binary?12:54
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DonMCNCan somebody help me with setting up Java on Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake?01:03
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DonMCN!java01:04
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository01:04
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DonMCN!restricted01:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:07
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en1gmawhats the command to fix-unionfs01:09
en1gmai do 'fix-unionfs' in term and it dont work01:09
en1gma-search fix01:09
en1gma!fix01:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:10
blup!help01:10
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:10
en1gma!fix-unionfs01:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix-unionfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:10
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en1gma!help fix01:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:10
coreymon77hi01:11
en1gmahello01:11
coreymon77my sound is still not working01:11
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en1gmaim using kubuntu 6.06 live dvd and need to update and cant do it cause i cant remember the fix-unionfs command01:11
en1gmacan someone help me01:11
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DonMCNyou don't update with the cd01:13
DonMCNyou need to install Kubuntu 6.06 before you can update01:13
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en1gmai thought i could down load some apps to memory01:13
fanscore!fr01:13
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:13
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DonMCNi have never tried that, though it seems illogical01:13
en1gmai just want to get nmap01:14
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DonMCNen1gma, i am sorry but i do believe you must install kubuntu before you can update or download any programs.01:15
en1gmano ive dloaded before i think*01:15
en1gmabut i know i need to do a fix-unionfs01:15
en1gmacan someone tell me the exact command to do that01:15
DonMCN!fix-unionfs01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix-unionfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:16
DonMCN!unionfs01:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unionfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:16
DonMCNI am not sure what you mean..01:16
DonMCNVery sorry :(01:16
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BluesKajen1gma, you can try dling but you it'llbe difficult to save the file and then execute it01:16
DonMCNI do not know what fix-unionfs is01:16
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en1gmaman i thought i dlaoded and ran it before all from ram...maybe i was think dsl01:17
en1gmafix-unionfs fixes something then i do an apt-get update01:17
en1gmathen i do the repositories01:17
en1gmathen it usually dloads01:17
bluphi01:18
en1gmahi01:18
blupen1gma you can try http://kanotix.com/FAQ-id_cat-15.html#q6001:18
en1gmamaybe that is what i tried01:19
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en1gmai got a few live cds and sometimes i mix up kubunto with kanotix01:19
en1gmablup thanks01:19
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en1gmabbiam01:19
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mtvdoes vmware server support usb devices?01:21
HymnToLife[] mtv, yes01:22
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mtvalright, so in theory i should be able to get a printer/scanner to install under vmware01:23
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HymnToLifein theory :p01:23
Jrexanyone have a fingerprint scanner that works both in kubuntu and windows?01:23
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lgcHi! Does anyone know what do I have to install in order to have access to voice on my IM client?01:25
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fanscore!fr01:25
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:25
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lgcgnomefreak, hi.01:26
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jmichaelx!restricted formats | badpenguin454301:31
ubotubadpenguin4543: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:31
lgcHi! Does anyone know what do I have to install in order to have access to voice on my IM client?01:31
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tunaYo!01:36
tunaOk, something ain't quite right with apt-get on this comp01:36
tunayou see, i was trying to install ubuntu-desktop01:37
tunawell... the problems kind of complicated... let me pastebin the terminal history to you...01:37
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tunahttp://rafb.net/p/Gf0OOx44.html01:39
tunaplease help!01:39
poningruwaah?01:39
poningruhold on01:39
tunai know, it's really long01:39
tunaso is there a way to fix it or am i better off backing up all my files and reinstalling?01:40
poningruerr wow01:40
poningruyeah thats pretty fracked up01:40
tunaso should i reinstall?01:41
devilsadvocatetuna, try doing sudo apt-get -f install01:41
tunaok01:41
poningrusudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop01:41
devilsadvocateno01:42
devilsadvocatejust -f install01:42
tunaoops01:42
tunai did sudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop01:42
tunacrap01:42
yuriycan anybody on feisty try this: launch amarok, change your keyboard layout/variant, then try to edit a tag01:42
devilsadvocateit wont recognize the command01:42
devilsadvocateir'll jump out immediately01:42
yuriyerr nvm it's not just amarok01:43
devilsadvocateyuriy, #ubuntu+101:43
tunadevilsadvocate was right. ok, trying your suggestion01:43
tunadevilsadvocate  it didn't work http://rafb.net/p/A2He4B45.html01:45
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devilsadvocatetuna, back up your data01:46
devilsadvocatethen do sudo rm /var/cache/debconf/config.dat01:46
tunalike my personal files?01:46
devilsadvocatehmm01:46
devilsadvocateno01:46
devilsadvocatewait01:46
tunaok01:47
devilsadvocateresart your computer and try -f install once again01:47
tunaok, brb then01:48
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tunaok, the weirdest thing01:56
tunawhen i logged in, it went straight to Gnome!01:56
tunabut if feels kinda slow...01:56
tunawhen i ran that command, something weird happened...01:57
tunahang on, let me pull up pastebin01:57
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dxdtCan anyone recommend some good applets for me to install now that I"m running KDE for the first time.02:00
dxdt?02:00
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tunahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6653/02:00
tunadevilsadvocate still there?02:01
tunadxdt akregator02:01
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carlhi02:02
carluhm02:02
adydas!tvout02:03
ubotuFor help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)02:03
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tunadevilsadvocate so now i'm in Gaim, and i'm not quite sure what i should do...02:03
carlI have a logitech mouse with navigational buttons on the side.. MX1000 mouse... but how do I enable the "back" and "forward" function when browsing the web? It's a fuction i really miss :s02:03
dxdtCool, any others?  Any applets that are your favorites in here?02:03
carl!logitech02:04
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:04
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tunadxdt make sure Konqueror's installed. It will quickly become your best friend02:04
slyfoxHelp, my video card is not supported by latest 9xxx series nvidia drivers. I have Nvidia GGorce GO 7700 card, what do I do ?02:05
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adydaswhys it not supported02:05
adydasi have a 7900 and it works fine02:06
dxdtKonqueror  I do have installed.  I installed the knetwork manager app.  kweather.  ummm  let's see..  any other fun programs for KDE anyone would recommend?  Up until now, I've only used Gnome02:06
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slyfoxadydas: did you use the envy script ? How did you install the drivers ?02:06
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adydasslyfox:02:07
dxdtis it possible to do video preview with Konqueror, so far I haven't been able to02:07
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mitxelhola02:07
tunadxdt SuperKaramba can be fun, but be careful of the widgets you install, they could cause it to crash02:07
tunadxdt i'm not sure...02:07
slyfoxadydas: did you use the envy script ? How did you install the drivers ?02:07
adydasslyfox: apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-source-2.6.1702:07
dxdtis SuperKaramba the program that has widgets that are compatible with the Yahoo widgets?  Or something like that?  maybe this is a kde 4 thing but I remember hearing something about this02:08
adydasSomone here told me about it, did it and it worked02:08
slyfoxadydas: so you used the one that is in the edgy guide, I used the latest 9xxx series for Beryl02:08
adydasdxdt: ill get you a screenshot if you want02:08
adydasOh02:08
adydassorry no beryl here02:08
tunadxdt i don't know if it's compatible with Yahoo widgets. you could try, i doubt it would hurt anything...02:09
tunadevilsadvocate are you there?02:09
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dxdtis SuperKaramba generally considered "the" widget program for KDE? or could it have been another widget program that exists out there?02:09
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tunadxdt i think SK is built off of Karamba (not super), but i'm not certain02:10
Jucatodxdt: it is02:11
adydasi belive its considerd to be the widget program for KDE02:11
adydasand gdesklets for gome ?02:11
adydasgnome?02:11
tunamaybe i'm wrong02:11
tunaeh, whatever02:11
adydasSK has alot of support02:11
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tunahey, how do you nudge in an IRC?02:11
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Jucatoyes, superkaramba is a sort of "evolution" of karamba. but karamba doesn't exists anymore afaik02:12
mikes1How do I install beryl in herd?02:12
HymnToLifetuna, you don't02:13
tunahymntolife so is there any kind of "attention getter?" i want to get devilsadvocate's attention, cuz he won't respond...02:14
tunahe was helping me before02:14
mikes1Where can I d/load beryl core from?02:14
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HymnToLifejust say his name02:15
HymnToLifedepending on how he configured his client, it will do something02:15
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tunawait, how to i whisper?02:15
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=== Jucato hates IM nudges....
tunaso do i02:16
tunadevilsadvocate please help me!02:16
adydasmikes1: http://www.beryl-project.org/releases.php02:16
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hellcattrav^^true02:17
Jucatodwidmann: so mentioning your name in IRC, with your client set to notify/highlight you, isn't enough? :)02:18
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dwidmannGives the same effect really, unless I set things otherwise02:18
dwidmannI think I included that in the /etc02:18
dwidmannIt has to do the notify though really, the highlight truely isn't enough02:19
slyfoxWhy is it when I got here "/" all the folders are visible, it used to be that only /media and /home were visible. Show hidden files is unchecked. Is my KDE broken ?02:20
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Jucato!hidden | slyfox02:20
ubotuslyfox: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)02:20
dwidmannHeck, they may have been removed already, hard to say02:20
slyfoxJucato: yeah, but they are suppsed to be hidden, why are they visible ?02:20
tunai hate that feature!02:20
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margishello all02:20
tunahey02:20
margisi have a problem02:20
tuname too02:21
tunadon't we all?02:21
dwidmannI hear that a lot02:21
margiswith  share  internet connection02:21
margiscan i ask?02:21
tunasure02:21
tunabut i probly cant answer02:21
Jucatoslyfox: you must have edited something? or are you on feisty?02:21
dwidmanntuna: I don't ..... unless you count that long list of problems I'm hiding behind my back.02:21
tunadwidmann i do02:21
tuna:D02:21
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slyfoxJucato: neither. I just install kde 3.5.6 same installation works fine on another machine02:22
tunaanyway, margis, go on02:22
margisso...i   use a  router  that  i  connect it  with my pc  with ethernet...i use kubuntu 6.1 in my pc  nad  i want to  share my internet  with my laptop02:22
coreymon77i hear that kde 4 is going to be able to be put on any os02:22
margisi  got  confuysed with the  ips02:22
coreymon77is that trie?02:22
margisand  i  didnt  make  anything02:22
coreymon77true*02:22
Jucatoslyfox: I'm not really sure. just check the files mentioned in that wiki if they still exist02:23
dwidmanncoreymon77: only the programs, not the actual desktop environent, if I rmeember right.02:23
coreymon77oh02:23
tunacan't KDE be put on any unix?02:23
coreymon77well, atleast ill still be able to use konv when i get a mac02:23
margisis  there any programm to  make  auto  share  the connection?02:23
JucatoKDE 4 *apps* **can** be made to run on win32 and Mac OS02:23
dwidmanntuna: yes02:23
coreymon77and still use mac os02:23
tunacertainly won't see it on winows02:23
margisexcept  the   firestarter02:23
tuna*windows02:23
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slyfoxJucato: "check the files mentioned in that wiki if they still exist"  how do you mean ?02:24
Jucatobut that depends on whether the maintainers02:24
margisso can anyone help me or not?02:24
dwidmannJucato: kde programs yes, but it won't be the whole deal ported if I remember right (ie: kicker, kwin, kdesktop, etc)02:24
Jucatowill want to port them02:24
tunasomebody can, margis. i can't, though...02:24
Jucatodwidmann: theoretically, they can be. but some devs don't want to bother02:24
tunamargis just be patient...02:24
margisok   iwait02:24
margisany with   share connection?02:25
Jucatoslyfox: read the wiki page I gave above. there are files that are mentioned there that affect the behavior of this hidden-root feature02:25
margisi  need  only  2-3  numbers02:25
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tunamargis did you check the docs, ubuntu wiki, etc.?02:25
dwidmannWeren't there X11 deps on some of those programs or something that would have made it take more effort? (especially for kwin)02:25
margisyes  i  saw them02:26
margisi  google   2  hours  now02:26
tunabrb all02:26
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margisis  this  a  help-channel or not?02:27
dwidmannmargis: yes02:27
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margisnice02:27
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dwidmann"Kubuntu Support Channel |...."02:27
margisi see many people02:27
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margisnobody has a  share connection at home?02:27
margisi dont  thing  so02:28
Jucato!patience02:28
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:28
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dwidmannmargis: keep in mind there probably aren't more than 10 people who are actually here right now02:28
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margisthe  others?02:28
dwidmannIdle02:28
dwidmannaway02:29
margisand   why idle?02:29
dwidmannwhatever02:29
margisjust  to say...ahh  we have many people?02:29
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margisi dont  think this is  helpful02:29
dwidmanndunno02:29
dwidmannSome of them stay on 24/7 despite only being on at certain hours02:29
dwidmannetc02:29
Jucatoyou ask them. we don't bother to ask them since they're not here02:29
Jucatothey've been here when I first came in a half a year ago02:30
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margisi  use linux  for 10days and  i  always  google  for  my problems....but  if i dont  find  a  solution?what i must do?02:30
zanellaman02:31
coreymon77margis: ask for help here02:31
margisi ask02:31
margisbut  i dont  get response02:31
coreymon77just be patient02:31
margisxmmm02:31
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coreymon77we are all volunteers here02:31
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coreymon77ask your question and be patient02:32
coreymon77if someone knows how to help you02:32
Jucatomargis: not everyone here might know how to solve your problem. we're users just like you, trying to help others with what we do know02:32
coreymon77they will eventially02:32
coreymon77eventually*02:32
margisok02:32
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dwidmannmargis: the topic of internet connection sharing does come up every once in a while. I don't really know anything about it though02:33
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Menahow to set cron to run scadual program regural02:33
dx11101anyone know how to get 5.1 sound using xmms?02:33
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zanellaconnection sharing is set through iptables_nat02:33
margiszanella  easy to say  hard  to  do02:33
margisi ma  noob in linux02:33
margisi  used to have windows  for 8 years02:34
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margisok nevermind guys,,,,i  go to google  again02:34
coreymon77margis: dont worry, just be patient, someone will answer you eventually02:35
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bajuzamHi Folks ;-)02:39
[Relic] Hello :)02:39
bajuzami am the stupid one here !02:40
[Relic] installed something that broke the gui somehow and now I only get text log in.  I think it was one of the clock apps since I was trying to find one I want.  So I need to make sure I have all the steps necessary to find and extract them to see if I can get my setup back.02:41
[Relic] What combo of dpkg and info to tell me only the clock apps?  w/o my doc pages I can't really tell  would something like   dpkg -l *clock*    work?02:42
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IrayoI have two network cards, what's the best way to make sure one of them doesn't start up at boot?02:43
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bajuzamdont know , sorry .... i needed about 5 houres to get my wlan wpa-psk encryptet02:44
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Irayoyeah I just finished my wpa-psk config for Kubuntu02:44
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Irayoand now I need to make sure my second wireless card (which doesn't support WPA) doesn't get brought up02:44
mrkdeDoes anyone know what that doom styled drop down shell is called and if I can get it for Kubuntu02:45
bajuzamu cant put this card out of youre pc ?02:45
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dxdtWhat package do I need to install or what do I need to configure so that my fonts don't look gross under KDE?  I don't know what package it is, but if you install kubuntu-desktop, the problem is gone so I know something is done.  I don't want to install Kubuntu-desktop though because it installs soooo many other programs I don't want02:51
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DonMCNCan somebody help me with installing Java 602:54
SlackRatmr kde, the quake style dropdown console ??02:54
SlackRatits called YaKuake......02:54
SlackRatavail in the repos02:54
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JucatoDonMCN: enable the -backports repositories, then "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin"02:58
dx11101anyone know how to get sound to come out of more then two speakers?02:59
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lameriugaPlease Help03:00
lameriugaCan somebody help me03:01
lameriuga???03:01
Jucato!somebody03:01
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:02
lameriugaok03:02
lameriugaI made some modify in /etc/sysctl.conf ,  and how can I save what i modify, and to go to command line?03:03
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dx11101how to get 5.1 channels audio03:05
HymnToLifeubotu, tell dx11101 about sound | dx11101, see the private message from ubotu.03:05
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malikis there any utility in kubuntu to program the comp to auto turn off on scheduled time?03:06
Talaman"the greeting application appears to be crashing" is the error i get03:07
Talamanany suggestions03:07
dx11101Kron Scheduler?03:08
dx11101okay i think if you install the package alsamixergui you can get 5.1 sound set up03:09
malikdx11101: is that for me?03:09
dx11101i could be wrong03:09
dx11101malik03:10
dx11101kron scheduler is where you create scheduled tasks but i have no idea how to use it yet03:10
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dx11101eventually i want to set mine up to turn my computer off at 1:00am03:10
Blu3any recommendations for a GRUB linux distro for a 4G pendrive?  *ubuntu doesn't work because the installer insists on running it's own partition manager and neither the old nor new work because they don't recognize 2048b sectors.  neither can i manually do it because the part. manager doesn't recognize the existing partitions03:11
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DonMCNJucato brb im going to restart03:12
JucatoDonMCN: have you enabled the backports repository?03:12
Jucatoer? why restart?03:12
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malikdx11101: cant find it in repositories03:12
DonMCNyes i did in the adept manager03:12
JucatoDonMCN: er.. you better do this in the command line for now03:13
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DonMCNI'03:13
DonMCNI'm not too well with the command line03:13
JucatoDonMCN: Java and Adept Manager won't be playing nice with each other until Feisty03:13
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JucatoI'll just give you the commands. at least you already have backports enabled, right?03:13
dx11101it should have come with a basic install of kde03:13
malikJucato: any idea about a package which can automate the turning off of computer?03:13
DonMCNyes i do03:13
Jucatomalik: sorry, no idea03:14
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sharpie05hi all03:14
JucatoDonMCN: ok, then, in Konsole, run "sudo apt-get update" (equivalent to Fetch Updates in Adept)03:14
sharpie05i need help with video acceleration03:14
sharpie05on my ibook g403:14
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dwidmannmalik: I would just use cron ...03:15
lameriugacould someone tell me how to save what i have changed in /etc/sysctl.conf, please03:15
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JucatoDonMCN: tell me when it's done fetching the updates03:15
DonMCNok03:16
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sharpie05libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b03:16
sharpie05what does this mean?03:16
DonMCNits getting them03:16
DonMCNits done it said03:16
sharpie05i get that after i type glxinfo | grep direct03:16
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DonMCNok its done, go ahead03:16
JucatoDonMCN: "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin"03:16
malikdwidmann: can u tell me whats the package full name is and how do u use it?03:16
DonMCNE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:17
DonMCNE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:17
dwidmannmalik: cron is already installed, to use it, open a terminal and type "sudo crontab -e"03:17
JucatoDonMCN: er? is Adept closed?03:17
dwidmanndonmcn: or is another apt using program running?03:17
dwidmannelse03:17
dwidmann!adeptfix | DonMCN03:18
ubotuDonMCN: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:18
DonMCNok i did03:18
sharpie05does anybody know what it means?: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x03:18
sharpie054b03:18
JucatoDonMCN: closed adept now? run the apt-get install command again03:18
DonMCNyay now its working03:19
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DonMCNits downloading very slowly :(03:19
DonMCN177kb/sec03:19
Jucatoat least it's downloading :)03:19
DonMCNon windows it was really fast, lol03:19
Jucatowell you're downloading from the Ubuntu repository, not from Java's site03:19
DonMCNohh03:20
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DonMCNso it may be a bit more busy03:20
oslohi http://pastebin.com/88493903:20
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sharpie05?03:20
oslo i can't get /etc/hosts.deny to work properly i'd like to block errorsafe.com, here my hosts.deny: http://pastebin.com/88493903:20
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oslodoes anyone could help ?03:21
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dwidmannmalik: as for the format of the file, it looks like this: minutes | hours | day of month | month | day of week | command, use an asterisk to represent all at the same time03:21
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dwidmann(seperated by spaces)03:22
kreator_hola03:22
DonMCNthank you very much java 6 successfully installed03:22
kreator_nesecito ayuda03:22
Jucatogreat03:22
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kreator_Help necesito ayuda03:22
Jucatoenglish please03:22
DonMCNay, yo hablo espanol03:22
sharpie05you guys are all busy :(03:23
gnyffelI've installed Kubuntu, but due to some issues with booting, I've made the disk I installed grub on master, was slave before, but now, every time I upgrade the kernel it seems to like to edit my menu.lst to root(1,0) and use hdb1 instead of root(0,0), hda1, as it should. How would I correct that?03:23
vioscarHOLAS A TODOS PUEDE DECIRME QUIEN SABE COMO LOCALIZAR MI DISCO DURO EN KUBUNTU?03:23
Jucato!es03:23
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:23
dwidmannsharpie: I looked .... I'm not busy, just clueless03:23
sharpie05hmmmm03:23
sharpie05well, it seems to kill all my open gl apps03:24
lameriugaJucato: could you tell me how to save what i have changed in /etc/sysctl.conf, please03:24
Jucatolameriuga: sorry, no clue03:24
sharpie05i tried xgl on an earlier install and nothing displayed correctly03:24
kreator_olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa03:24
kreator_help!03:24
kreator_help!03:24
DonMCNkreator, tu hablas espanol o ingles?03:24
kreator_espaol03:25
Jucato!es | kreator_03:25
ubotukreator_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:25
sharpie05and i get an error on boot telling me something about allocating something on device 003:25
sharpie05sorry for the vagueness ill have to reboot to get more specific03:25
dwidmannsharpie05: what video card/video drivers do you have/use?03:25
DonMCNme llamo tu en un mensaje ahora03:26
kreator_ola necesito ayuda para poder instalar amsn como lo puedo hacer ?03:26
kreator_ola necesito ayuda para poder instalar amsn como lo puedo hacer ?03:26
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JucatoDonMCN: please guide him to one of the -es channels03:26
DonMCNok03:26
JucatoDonMCN: and tell him that he can use Kopete for MSN :)03:27
DonMCNkreator, necesitas ir al #kubuntu-es canal para ayuda en espanol03:27
kreator_no hay gente03:27
sharpie05to dwidmann:  i have a radeon mobility 9550 and i am using the ati drivers03:28
sharpie05i get error when using the radeon drivers but the system identifies it as a radeon(fglrx)03:28
DonMCNque es un problemo? necesitas ir al #kubuntu-es canal para ayuda en espanol, lo siento. tu no puedas recibir ayuda en este canal03:28
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dwidmannHmm, so are you using the "ati", "radeon" (no, right?), or the "fglrx" driver.03:29
DonMCNeste canal es ingles solomente03:29
DonMCNJucato he wont listen to me, lol03:29
DonMCNHe's ignorante03:29
Jucatoheh03:29
Jucatoor just stubborn...03:30
DonMCNEl es ignorante! Ir al canal $Kubuntu-es03:30
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Jucatono name calling please :)03:30
DonMCNsorry03:30
DonMCNim trying to get him to go03:30
DonMCNlol03:30
DonMCNyo hablo ingles, espanol y francias03:30
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soulriderkreator_: para ayuda anda a #kubuntu-es03:31
Jucatowow multi-lingual :)03:31
soulrideryo te ayudo, pero en ESE canal!03:31
sharpie05im using the ati driver03:31
DonMCNeste canal es ingles solomente, no espanol. para ayuda en espanol ir al #Kubuntu-es03:31
sharpie05i tested the fglrx radeon driver and it went into an endless cycle of fullscreen red green blue white gray black03:31
dwidmannsharpie05: give the fglrx drive a try and see how it works??03:31
dwidmann!ati03:31
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:31
sharpie05?03:32
soulriderhes not answering.....03:32
JucatoDonMCN: anyway, he stopped asking in spanish already, so I guess it's ok now03:32
sharpie05im on a mac if it makes a diff03:32
dwidmannIt may ....03:32
DonMCNgood point Jucato lol03:32
DonMCNi must agree03:32
JucatoDonMCN: he's already in those channels03:32
DonMCNoh lol03:32
DonMCNdo other people see those things i get that say DonMCN: he's already in those channels or only me?03:33
Jucatoother people see it too. but you would see that line highlighted (in red by default in Konversation)03:34
Jucato"only you would see"03:34
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[Relic] Is there a way to fix a borken install03:35
x04ty29eri think03:36
x04ty29eryou just reinstall03:36
x04ty29erthen it will redownload and install03:36
x04ty29eror03:36
x04ty29eryou have to find all the dependent packages too03:36
x04ty29erand reinstall them too03:36
dwidmann[Relic] : always, enough skill and effort and most any problem can be fixed. It's just a matter of whether it's worth the time and effort to fix it as opposed to the time and effort required for the reinstall ...03:36
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x04ty29erlol03:36
x04ty29erits really not that hard03:37
x04ty29erI think03:37
sharpie05i just installed it today03:37
[Relic] adept didn't warn me something would break and stop the process  :(03:37
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sharpie05and i have reinstalled it many times previously with no luck03:37
sharpie05:/03:37
x04ty29eradept manager doesnt like installers that require an agreement03:37
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AdydasDoes x log if x loads but a setting you put in the conf dont work? im trying to do tv out and i have no errors but i also have no working tv out03:37
x04ty29erit is best to do it manually03:37
dwidmanncome to think of it, I think fglrx may only be for radeon 9500's and higher03:37
sharpie05well03:38
sharpie05i am on a 955003:38
dwidmannx04ty29er: seems that it does in feisty, IIRC03:38
JucatoAdydas: try looking in /var/log03:38
x04ty29erdwidmann: what are you talking about again\?03:38
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Jucatox04ty29er: that has been fixed in feisty03:38
dwidmannx04ty29er: this, that, and the other most likely.03:38
[Relic] I need to remove 2 files but then that will remove about 455M of system stuff aka the base system, due to the stupid way this is set up, question is can I somehow log the pkgs that it wants to remove and reinstall them?03:38
x04ty29eroh ok03:39
dwidmann[Relic] : apt-get --reinstall install packages03:39
Adydasjuncato for what?03:39
Adydasthe logs have nothing03:39
Adydasother than my last fail before i got nvidia drivers working right03:40
Jucato[Relic] : dpkg keeps a log of its activities... but you'd have to know when you installed/removed packages so you can search for them. /var/log/dpkg.log or one of the archives03:40
JucatoAdydas: hm.. ok no idea...03:40
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[Relic] I would do it as extracting both of the packages and the imediately reinstalling all the removed packages expect those 2, just not sure how to do it exactly so O don't screw things up further03:41
mrkdeAnybody know how to install automatix2 for Kubuntu?03:41
dwidmann[Relic] : additionally, so long as it doesn't try to remove apt, it can be worthwhile to just let it remove them, regardless, and then reinstall the removed packages03:41
[Relic] dwidmann: can't tell what it wants to remove since it scrolls off the screen03:41
Jucato!automatix | mrkde03:42
ubotumrkde: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe03:42
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Jucatomrkde: might want to try going to the automatix channel03:42
soulrider!paste03:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:42
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[Relic] dwidmann: can I force apt-get into a file via >> and then see the info?03:43
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willI'm locked off my desktop.  I'm only on it since I modified my xorg.conf to use radeon drivers instead of FGLRX.  I have a radeon x700 and it was working great up untill 5 minutes ago.  How can I get back into my Desktop with fglrx drivers running?03:44
AdydasShould i take from my logfile this the tv outs working03:44
Adydas(--) NVIDIA(0):     AOC LM727 (CRT-0)03:44
Adydas(--) NVIDIA(0):     NVIDIA TV Encoder (TV-0)03:44
Adydas(--) NVIDIA(0): AOC LM727 (CRT-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock03:44
Adydas(--) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA TV Encoder (TV-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock03:44
dwidmann[Relic] : sometimes I can manage to scroll with shift + pageup/pagedown03:44
dwidmanndepends on the system and the keyboard I think03:44
[Relic] guess I try it, worse case scenario is I hve to reinstall everything anyway03:45
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[Relic] back later, maybe03:45
[Relic] thanks for the info03:45
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willI'm locked off my desktop.  I'm only on it since I modified my xorg.conf to use radeon drivers instead of FGLRX.  I have a radeon x700 and it was working great up untill 5 minutes ago.  How can I get back into my Desktop with fglrx drivers running?03:46
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[Relic] how do I force x to start or attempt to start?03:47
dwidmannwill: well, you could modify the xorg.conf again, could you not?03:48
dwidmann[Relic] : startx03:48
[Relic] thanks03:48
willdwidmann: Modify to what?  If I put it back to fglrx it crashes again03:48
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fanscore!fr03:48
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:48
dwidmannwill: then what works?03:48
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dwidmannMaybe vesa?03:49
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stephanshas anyone done a pxe/unattended install of ubuntu?03:49
willdwidmann: That's not the problem.  Vesa crashes to,  "radeon" will run.  But FGLRX wont, and I need FGLRX since I use 3D extensivly and opensource doesn't cut it for them03:49
stephansI am trying to use kickstart03:50
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AdydasIf i use pastebin anyone want to check out my tvout / monitor settings see if ive made a silly booboo to stop it working?03:52
Adydas!paste03:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:53
willAlright I re depmodded, aticonfigged, etc etc.  Lets see if it works now03:53
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thecolorifixok, I'm a total irc AND linux n00b, anyone willing to help me install my soundblaster soundcard? or suggest a good tutorial/walkthrough?03:54
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thecolorifixalso, is this where I should be asking this?03:54
thecolorifixanyone?03:55
soulrider!ntfs03:55
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:55
soulrider!soundblaster03:55
ubotusoundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth03:55
thecolorifixthanks03:56
AdydasX11 Experts, Please check this out and let me know of any ovious muckups on my part, it works as in X still loads just no tv output screen avabile03:56
Adydashttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6659/03:56
soulrider!ntfs-3g03:56
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)03:56
thecolorifixok, this is no help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth03:57
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fanscore!fr03:59
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:59
fakepatriot!nvidia03:59
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:59
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thecolorifixalright, I'm trying not to be a pest or anything, but this is kind of my last hope, so is there anyone willing to walk me through installing my soundblaster soundcard in kubuntu, or at least know of a good walkthrough online?03:59
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soulriderthecolorifix: i dont ahve a card so i cant help you,a nd the channel is kinda quiet, have you tried the forums ?04:01
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thecolorifixI have not, where are they located?04:02
soulriderhttp"//ubuntuforums.org04:02
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sidotialgummm  brasileiro04:04
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Jucato!br04:04
ubotupt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.04:04
nixternaloslo: you still around?04:08
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BluesKaj!soundblaster04:09
ubotusoundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth04:09
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oslonixternal> yes i am ?04:09
osloi am !04:09
oslonixternal> about hosts.deny ??04:10
nixternalya04:10
nixternalis this ssh attacks?04:10
oslocould u help ?04:10
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osloi don't know04:10
underdog5004nixternal, what's happening, now?04:10
nixternali.e., dictionary attacks trying to log in as different users04:10
oslonow the dns errorsafe.com can be pinged from my system.04:11
BluesKaj!soundblaster > thecolorifix04:11
ToshibiSomeone getting attacked?04:11
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underdog5004bummer...is your password a dictionary word (ie. not strong)?04:12
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osloyes by errorsafe.com when i'm webbrowsing04:12
thecolorifixok, so after looking at the forums the card I have is an xfi which there is currently NO support for, however I have onboard sound on the asrock k7vm2 motherboard, anyone help with getting THAT to work?04:12
ToshibiDo you have a packet sniffer running?04:12
ToshibiEtherreal or something?04:12
nixternalnah, if you run a ssh server on the standard port 22 and it is open to the world, there are bots that will automically start trying to do so04:12
nixternalthat is why it is recommended that you change your ssh port04:12
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oslois there someone about /etc/hosts.deny ?04:13
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oslodoes nixternal is a bot?04:13
nixternaloslo: my /etc/hosts.deny is blank, nothing there, since I moved my ports I don't get the attacks anymore04:13
underdog5004cool04:13
oslonixternal> i just want to block teh dns : errorsafe.com .......;04:14
Jucatolol @ nixternal bot :)04:14
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oslo^^04:14
Jucatomine is blank too04:14
nixternalhehe04:14
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bkudriai am trying to run a precompiled, old version of gcc (for a project, not under my control).  I've extracted the archive given to mee, and it contains 'gcc', a binary file with the executable bit set.  i try to run it with './gcc', but i get the error './gcc: no such file or directory' - what could be wrong?04:15
SlackRatis there any reason why certain threads in kubuntu forum dont have a reply button, to a dd a reply?04:15
nixternaloslo: putting errorsafe.com prevents errorsafe.com IP address from connecting to your computer, not you connecting to them04:15
Jucatobkudria: are you in the directory where that gcc executable is in?04:15
bkudriaJucato: yep04:15
nixternalchmod +x gcc04:15
nixternal?04:15
underdog5004nixternal, lol, I have my port 22 on my router forwarded to my server with a REALLY strong password...from there I can ssh into any of my home computers.04:15
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dwidmannSlackRat: well, some threads are locked04:15
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bkudriayep, the executable bit is set04:15
SlackRatall topic icons seem to imply its not locked, just a normal topic04:16
oslonixternal> so if i try to connect to them it's normal i can reach them ?04:16
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nixternalunderdog5004: ya, I have strong passwords as well, but if you don't enable or setup log rotation and don't have a seperate /var partition, it can fill up quickly04:16
SlackRatah, it is old though....could that be why? its last summer under off topic....04:16
nixternalbot attacks on ssh will fill your /var/log/auth log fast as all hell04:16
[Relic] dwidmann, silly thing messed up the glx drivers which is why X wouldn't start  :)  all better now04:17
underdog5004uh...log rotation?04:17
dwidmann[Relic] : good to hear it :)04:17
bkudrianixternal: yep, the executable bit is set04:17
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underdog5004can't you just disable logging...or have cron delete the logs at an interval?04:17
dwidmannI finally got around to fixing my refresh rate ten minutes ago myself :)04:17
[Relic] now if I could only find a 24 app clock  :)04:17
nixternaloslo: yes, if you add them in hosts.deny they can't connect to you, but you can connect to them04:18
nixternalhosts.deny blocks hosts coming in to your machine04:18
underdog5004ah...is that in /etc?04:19
nixternal/etc/hosts.deny04:20
nixternalerr underdog5004, sorry, it is a bunch of different things actually04:20
nixternalgoogle "linux log rotation" or possibly check the forums04:20
nixternalI think helpforge might have something on it as well04:20
bkudriai am trying to run a precompiled, old version of gcc (for a project, not under my control).  I've extracted the archive given to mee, and it contains 'gcc', a binary file with the executable bit set.  in the directory with the executable, i try to run it with './gcc', but i get the error './gcc: no such file or directory' - what could be wrong?  the executable bit/permission *is* set.04:21
oslonixternal> how could deny the connection between me & them ?04:21
underdog5004gotcha...04:21
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oslo*how could i04:21
underdog5004!nobody04:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nobody - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:21
nixternaloslo: hrmm, I really don't know w/o setting up a proxy and some sort of blocking app04:22
osloits sux04:22
oslo:p04:22
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spawn57all the files I'm creating in my ~ dir are umask 644, can I change it to 600?04:27
dwidmannbkudria: I've seen that problem before, but I can't remember what/if the fix was.04:28
dwidmannspawn57: you can04:28
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spawn57found it, it's either login.defs, or bash_profile..which one should I do though =S04:29
heri-wahyudiantouilil04:29
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bkudriadwidmann: well, if you remember, please let me know!04:29
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vegasmcpcanybody in here familiar with raid?04:33
dwidmannbkudria: the thread I was thinking of didn't have a solution :(04:34
ForgeAusin kubuntu... not I...04:34
bkudriadwidmann: oh.  thanks anyway!04:34
ForgeAus!raid04:34
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO04:34
dwidmannI've played with RAID (both mdadm and dmraid) a few times before, didn't keep either in the end though.04:34
ForgeAusraids strength is also its greatest weakness...04:35
ForgeAusredundancy04:35
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vioscarholas04:39
vioscaralguien aki habla espaol?04:39
intelikey!es04:40
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:40
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vegasmcpcok, i have the raid array set up, all i need to do is figure out how to mount it04:41
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dx11101whats all this anti-linux freebsd crap im reading04:42
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stephanshas anyone on this channel used kickstart successfully in ubuntu??04:43
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AdydasAny X11 experts here?04:43
fakepatriotcan anyone tell me when flash and java are coming out for 64-bit firefox?04:43
HymnToLifeAdydas, just ask, someone will answer if he/she knows04:44
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underdog5004Adydas, I know I'm not!04:44
dwidmannfakepatriot: look into nspluginwrapper04:44
AdydasIs anything wrong with this conf, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6659/04:44
dwidmannI think you can find it in the janvitus repository ...04:44
fakepatriot!nspluginwrapper04:44
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:44
fakepatriotthanks dwid04:45
dwidmannI've even got nspluginwrapper working with Konqueror ... though I had to rebuild it with a patch to get that working04:46
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tun2devilsadvocate are you there?04:47
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fakepatriotsweet04:47
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intelikeyAdydas do you not need any monitor[0]  setup ?04:49
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AdydasIm trying to run my TV out to my well tv04:50
Adydasit loads like i get X04:51
Adydasand no errors i can see from the logs04:51
Adydasbut i just dont have a tv output04:51
intelikeyAdydas scratch what i asked.  i see what you did there.04:51
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Adydashave i missed somthing?04:52
Adydasit seems right according to following the !tvout help link04:52
intelikeyModes "400x600_60"  tall skinny ?04:52
Adydasit dont work at all04:53
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intelikeyAdydas i see three listed        InputDevice s    that are not defined.04:54
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slyfoxWhat do I need in order to open tar.zip file ? It opens fine in windows, but kubuntu gives me cannot open archive error  ?04:54
Adydascould i ask where?04:54
intelikeySection "ServerLayout"04:55
ForgeAusslyfox? ark should open it04:55
Adydas        Screen 0 "Screen[0] "04:55
Adydas        Screen 1 "Screen[1] " RightOf "Screen[0] "04:55
ForgeAusif not try an ncurses app midnight commander04:55
HymnToLifetar.zip ? Are you sure of that ?04:55
fakepatriot!wine04:55
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:55
intelikeythree left over wacom devices.04:55
intelikey        InputDevice     "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"04:55
intelikey        InputDevice     "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"04:55
intelikey        InputDevice     "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"04:55
AdydasI didnt add that, thats as per the installation04:55
ForgeAusgood point Hymn, I didn't realize the extension normally its .tar.gz or .tar.z or .tar.bz204:55
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ForgeAustar.zip is well unusual to say the least...04:56
slyfoxForgeAus: nope, I get - unable to open archive ?04:56
HymnToLifeI guess he could just unzip it and see what that gives :p04:56
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ForgeAusin winzip or oyur windows program is there only one file in the zip (a .tar file?)04:56
slyfoxForgeAus: let me see04:57
intelikeyAdydas yes and not devined anymore.  i'm no X-pert there but that looks to me like begging for trubble.   also you didn't define any input devices.   mouse keyboard ....04:57
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AdydasThey work :p04:57
ForgeAusHymn if it were unzippable why would it say it can't open the archive?04:57
Adydasall is 100%, bar i turn on tv and see nothing04:57
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HymnToLifewell, usually files ending with .zip are unzippable04:58
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HymnToLifebut I wonder where he got that file from04:58
ForgeAusagreed04:58
stephanshas anyone on this channel used kickstart successfully in ubuntu??04:58
HymnToLifethe source doesn't seem very reliable04:58
ForgeAusand what actual archive format it is04:58
slyfoxForgeAus: winrar in Windows sees it as  filename.tar    because it is a .zip file and it open it just fine04:58
stephanshas anyone on this channel preeseeded an install for ubuntu??04:58
ForgeAusok can you extract it with winrar to filename.tar somewhere?04:58
cpk1slyfox: do you have unzip installed?04:58
slyfoxForgeAus: in wINDOWS, LET ME SEE04:58
ForgeAusthen use linux to open the .tar file04:58
slyfoxcpk1: LET ME SEE04:58
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HymnToLifeslyfox, have you tried    unzip file.zip  from a terminal04:59
slyfoxcpk1: yes04:59
cpk1linux should be able to deal with any type of archive04:59
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HymnToLifecpk1, it is04:59
cpk1slyfox: what does file nameofarchive say?04:59
ForgeAuscpk1 SHOUDL but for some reason it doesn't like this particular one04:59
max_where is the setting for transparency of the K Menu?04:59
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slyfoxForgeAus: slyfox.tar.zip   my firefox profile backup05:00
intelikeymax_ right click and configure it05:00
ForgeAusgood question max I don't actually know... possibly in configuring panels somewhere?05:00
slyfoxForgeAus: yes, it unzipped just fine in windows05:00
HymnToLifemax_, Kcontrol > Appearance > Styles > "Effects" tab05:00
ForgeAusif it exists I'd expect it to be in appearance or theme settings somewhere05:00
heri-wahyudiantoijewrf[pijefjie iwpjfw05:00
heri-wahyudiantopl[pl\05:00
slyfoxForgeAus:05:01
slyfoxslyfox@laptopishe:~$ unzip /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar05:01
slyfoxArchive:  /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar.zip05:01
HymnToLifeheri-wahyudianto, what was that ?05:01
slyfox  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not05:01
slyfox  a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the05:01
max_HymnToLife: thanks, i can never rememeber where that is05:01
slyfox  latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on05:01
slyfox  the last disk(s) of this archive.05:01
slyfoxnote:  /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar.zip may be a plain executable, not an archive05:01
slyfoxunzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar or05:01
slyfox        /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar.zip, and cannot find /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar.ZIP, period.05:01
slyfoxslyfox@laptopishe:~$05:01
ForgeAuswow nice!05:01
cpk1slyfox: file /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar to see if it says what kind archive it is05:01
heri-wahyudiantohow to add IRC server05:02
heri-wahyudiantohow to add IRC server?05:02
intelikeyslyfox gunzip it05:02
HymnToLifeheri-wahyudianto, depends on what client you use...05:02
slyfoxcpk1: /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar: directory05:02
slyfoxintelikey: how via gunzip /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar    ?05:02
cpk1lol05:02
heri-wahyudiantoI use Kubuntu konversation05:02
HymnToLifeslyfox, can you cd to it ?05:02
heri-wahyudiantoI use Kubuntu konversation05:03
slyfoxHymnToLife: let me see05:03
ForgeAusme too05:03
slyfoxHymnToLife: Yes I can05:03
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HymnToLifeand what do you have in there ?05:03
slyfoxHymnToLife: what is the command to see what i have there ?05:04
HymnToLifels05:04
heri-wahyudiantooo05:04
slyfoxHymnToLife: gives me nothing05:04
slyfoxHymnToLife:05:04
ForgeAuswhy does beryl switch my desktop to gnome-style?05:04
slyfoxslyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$05:04
slyfoxslyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$ ls05:04
slyfoxslyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$ ls05:04
slyfoxslyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$ ls05:04
slyfoxslyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$ ls05:04
slyfoxslyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$05:04
slyfoxForgeAus: did you install aquamarine for KDE ?05:05
ForgeAusyes05:05
HymnToLifeForgeAus, you need to tell beryl to use it then05:05
slyfoxDid you set it to use aquamarine ?05:05
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ForgeAushow do you do that?05:05
HymnToLiferight click on the beryl icon in the systray05:06
HymnToLifeit's somewhere in there05:06
fakepatriotcan someone help me install Wine?05:06
slyfoxForgeAus: right click - window manager - aquamarine in beryl icon05:06
ForgeAusoh select window decoration?05:06
slyfoxHymnToLife: so what do I do with my tar.zip file ?05:07
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HymnToLifeslyfox, I guess you'll have to extract it in windows05:07
HymnToLifeor DCC it to me, I'll see what I can do with it05:07
ForgeAusslyfox I'm not sure its working05:07
ForgeAusI have a feeling its booting me back out of beryl when it loads05:08
slyfoxForgeAus: slect it and then choos reload window manager05:08
slyfoxForgeAus: #beryl is the best place to ask05:08
ForgeAusok05:08
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intelikeyi can't fingre out why i can't install a printer...   i click add printer and the window gets this blank look on it's face and nothing else ever happens.05:09
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slyfoxHymnToLife: it is a big file 80 mg, let me see what else I can do here05:09
cpk1I have no experience with printers because mine automagically worked after the kde printer wizard05:09
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m4gnu5Hello!  I'm a Linux n00b, and I'm having an issue with a device, specifically hda5, a logical drive I set up with ext3 filesystem.05:11
lorderunionhi. at random intervals kubuntu goes to a black screen and then prompts me to log back in. everything i was working on or had open is gone, and it reverts to the last session. i can't figure out what's going on. any idea as to what it might be?05:11
intelikeycpk1 i can't get to the kde printer wizard,  that's the thing.05:11
cpk1intelikey: =(05:11
m4gnu5I have no write permission to the drive, even after adding rwx for everyone, and adding root as group for my user account.05:11
eeanm4gnu5: does root have write permission?05:12
intelikeym4gnu5 it's probably not a real file system.05:12
Dr_willism4gnu5,  you normally dont set up a ext3/2 drive where Everyone can write to it.05:12
m4gnu5Yes, root has write permission.  brwx.05:12
intelikeythus has no permissions bit05:12
Dr_willisyou could set up a directory on the drive.. that everyone has access to.05:12
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m4gnu5I realize, but I'm new, and I decided to set it that way just to see if I could get it working...05:13
eeanhehe good point Dr_willis05:13
Dr_willismake a dir.. and set the permissions on that. :)05:13
m4gnu5I can't create anything within the partition.05:13
Dr_willisi normally set up a spare hd called 'extraspace' and make each user a addational homedir in there.05:13
m4gnu5even as root.05:13
eean...05:13
Dr_willism4gnu5,  you got bigger issues then if root cant do things.05:13
m4gnu5It's 61GB in size.05:13
eeanyea this ain't no permission issue :)05:13
Dr_willisfor a start check the 'mount' command see where/what the drive is mounted as.05:14
m4gnu5It was an ntfs partition, so I used fdisk to delete it, and created an ext3 partition.05:14
eeangrep hda /etc/fstab05:14
eeangrep hda5 /etc/fstab05:14
intelikeym4gnu5 in konsole type; mount    and copy/paste the output to http://pastebin.ca  then bring us the url05:14
m4gnu5The dribe is, of course at location /dev/hda5, and is mounted at /media/hda5.05:14
m4gnu5okay, hang on.05:15
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Dr_willisexample --->  /dev/hde1 on /media/hde1 type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev)05:15
Dr_willisnote the (rw) part05:15
Dr_willisif you just got a (r) then it may be read only05:16
intelikeynosuid    catchy05:16
m4gnu5http://pastebin.ca/36443905:16
intelikey   12. /dev/hdc5 on /media/hdc5 type ntfs05:17
intelikeythere's your problem.05:17
Dr_willisyep.. i was about to say that05:17
m4gnu5I've also checked fstab.  It looks odd, but I'm so new, I'm not sure.05:17
lorderunionhi. at random intervals kubuntu goes to a black screen and then prompts me to log back in. everything i was working on or had open is gone, and it reverts to the last session. i can't figure out what's going on. any idea as to what it might be?05:17
Dr_willisits not a ext2/3 drive :) its a windows ntfs drive05:17
m4gnu5hdc is my second physical drive . . . I'm talking about hda505:17
intelikey   14. /dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type ext3 (rw)05:18
intelikeytoo quick ?05:18
m4gnu5Too quick?05:18
Dr_willisi though he said hdc earlier..05:18
intelikeysudo chmod 777 /media/hda505:18
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m4gnu5hold on05:18
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m4gnu5brwxrwxrwx 1 root disk 3, 5 2007-02-19 21:46 /dev/hda505:19
m4gnu5That's the drive permisions as they stand.05:19
intelikeyno it's not.05:19
m4gnu5?05:19
intelikeythat's the device node permissions05:19
m4gnu5Okay . . .05:19
intelikeysudo chmod 777 /media/hda505:20
m4gnu5Should I use thew sudo chmod command as instructed?05:20
m4gnu5okay...05:20
intelikeyas normal user do;                                               mkdir /media/hda5/this\ is\ a\ test05:20
m4gnu5Okay, done.05:20
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m4gnu5Okay . . .  hold on05:21
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kristjan_I got so far that I downloaded kiso.debdiff; now trying "debdiff apply ./kiso.debdiff" gets error "./kiso.debdiff does not exist."05:22
m4gnu5mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/hda5/this is a test': Permission denied05:22
kristjan_*dpatch status ./kiso.debdiff*05:22
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intelikeyls -ld /media/hda505:23
m4gnu5drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-02-19 20:05 /media/hda505:23
yuriykristjan_ you don't need the ./ unless you're running a script or something05:23
m4gnu5I see that there isn't w in two places there./05:23
intelikeyyou didn't chmod it.05:24
m4gnu5Yes, I did.  But I will again.  I was root already, so I skipped the sudo command.  Was that okay?05:24
kristjan_yuriy: even with correct path "dpatch status /home/kristjan/varia/kiso.debdiff" I get "/home/kristjan/varia/kiso.debdiff does not exist."05:24
lorderunionhi. at random intervals kubuntu goes to a black screen and then prompts me to log back in. everything i was working on or had open is gone, and it reverts to the last session. i can't figure out what's going on. any idea as to what it might be?05:24
intelikeyyeah if you're root you're root.05:24
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m4gnu5This time I did it from my user account, and entered the root passwd when prompted.05:25
intelikeyroot password ?05:26
m4gnu5create the file again?05:26
intelikeysudo doesn't ask for a root password05:26
m4gnu5It did me.05:26
intelikeyit asks for your password05:26
m4gnu5I was no longer root.05:26
kristjan_can anyone apply debdiff given here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kiso/+bug/75908 - if you succeed, then please let me now05:26
HymnToLifem4gnu5, nope, it asks for _your_ password05:26
Kite_DHcan somebody help me get my "Lexmark 1200 Series" Printer to work?05:26
intelikeysudo doesn't ask for the root password.05:26
m4gnu5Right now I use the same password as root . . .05:26
m4gnu5Sorry.  Confusing.05:27
eeanlol05:27
intelikeyit's still your password.05:27
m4gnu5Yes.05:27
eeanby default ubuntu doesn't have a root password05:27
intelikeyyes test it.05:27
spitwiseuser passwd will give root privs w/ sido05:27
intelikeyor ls it again05:27
m4gnu5No I set it up.05:27
spitwisesudo even05:27
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yuriyKite_DH: what happens when you go to the printer settings and try to set it up?05:28
m4gnu5Anyway, I wasn't su, and when I typed sudo etc . . . it asked for a passwd.05:28
monsterb_Kite_DH do u have cups installed?05:28
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lorderunionhi. at random intervals kubuntu goes to a black screen and then prompts me to log back in. everything i was working on or had open is gone, and it reverts to the last session. i can't figure out what's going on. any idea as to what it might be?05:28
Kite_DHyuriy: when i try to print, nothing comes out, then i check printjobs and theres nothing05:28
Kite_DHyuriy: somebody here said to make it on "rawr file"05:28
intelikeyi setup my /etc/sudoers      ALL     ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD :ALL05:29
yuriyKite_DH: have you set up the printer in system settings?05:29
eeanlorderunion: if that happened to me I'd be worried about hardward trouble >.<05:29
m4gnu5Now, do I:  mkdir /media/hda5/this\ is\ a\ test05:29
lorderunionany way to test if it is hardware?05:29
Kite_DHyuriy: not really, i just set it on raw file05:29
intelikeym4gnu5 or ls -ld /media/hda505:29
monsterb_kite_DH goto cups website and use online setup program in your web browser ---> http://localhost:631/   u need root/password05:29
intelikeyeither one should tell you if it took05:29
yuriylorderunion: you could run memtest to see if it's memory errors. it should be in your grub menu on boot.05:29
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eeanlorderunion: well reboot and run memtest the next time you go to bed, couldn't hurt. though if it was hardware trouble it probably be your video card05:30
Kite_DHmonsterb_: explain that please05:30
m4gnu5drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2007-02-19 20:05 /media/hda505:30
m4gnu5OKAY!  Looks like write permission.05:30
intelikeyok you can do what you want there now m4gnu505:30
lorderunionmy video card worked a few weeks ago on my old system w/o troubles05:30
yuriymonsterb_: does he really need to do that? kdeprint doesn't work for lexmark or sthing?05:30
Kite_DHyuriy: there are many lexmark models in kdeprint, but mine05:30
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gugu^can someone help me to configure Local network05:30
yuriyKite_DH: have you tried a similar one maybe?05:30
m4gnu5Thank you, Intelikey.  And will this be persistent?  ie:  won't have to do this after every boot?05:30
yuriyKite_DH: what is yours?05:31
intelikeyanytime05:31
m4gnu5Or do I need to edit fstab?05:31
Kite_DHyuriy: Lexmark 1200 Series05:31
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intelikeym4gnu5 and yes it's real permissions you set.05:31
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m4gnu5They're perminent until I change them?  Sweet!05:31
intelikeyyep05:32
osirisanyone here able to play .wav files or mp3 files for system sounds ?  Does it just support .ogg's ?05:32
monsterb_ yuriy - IMO i think cups website setup is easier - Lexmark are tricky printers to get working - is the 1200 listed?05:32
Kite_DHyuriy: its with a scanner on it too05:32
m4gnu5Thank you again.  Like I said, I'm a n00b.  Ben with MSDOS since v2.1, then all the flavors of Windows up to XP Pro.  I just05:32
m4gnu5made the switch.05:32
m4gnu5So far I like Kubuntu 6.10 the best . . .05:33
m4gnu5Though I like Knoppix, but they say they don't recommend installing it perm.05:33
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intelikeym4gnu5 but be advised.  anyone withaccess to that box can do anything they want on that disk.   they don't have to own nor even have permissions on files/dirs to rm them.05:33
yuriyKite_DH, monsterb_: i see the 1100 listed, that might be the same driver05:34
eeanintelikey: dude thats true anyways, they just have to boot into another operating system or single user mode05:34
Kite_DHyuriy: what if not? :(05:34
m4gnu5I do realize that.  I will work on securing it better.05:34
intelikeyeean i didn't say local access.05:34
yuriymonsterb_: of course if you have experience with lexmark/cups website setup please explain it to Kite_DH :)05:34
intelikeyeean any access05:34
eeanI normally don't hand out access to my desktop system ;)05:34
yuriyKite_DH: i found this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714&highlight=X1150.05:34
monsterb_Kite_DH if it's wrong driver u will just waste ink on test page - thats all05:35
intelikeynow who want's to walk me through setting up a printer ?05:35
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yuriy!printer05:36
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows05:36
intelikeyit don't work yuriy05:36
Kite_DHyuriy: im gonna try it05:36
monsterb_kite_DH network printer?05:37
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yuriyintelikey: what don't? and sry about those links, that wasn't quite what i was hoping it would give05:37
intelikeyyuriy add printer wizard05:37
yuriyoh05:38
yuriyhow so?05:38
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Kite_DHmonsterb_: no idea05:38
ForgeAuswhy doesn't my kget work anymore?05:38
yuriyintelikey: what printer and what error do you get if any?05:38
ForgeAus it opens a window lets me set where to put the file, etc has an entry for the file, just doesn't seem to connect or put any data in the file!05:38
intelikeywhen i click add printer the window just goes blank05:38
intelikeythat's all.   nothing more.05:39
yuriyintelikey: no error message at all? eek.05:39
yuriyintelikey: what version of ubuntu?05:39
intelikey6.605:39
Dr_willisegads! its so old it has vericose veins.05:39
Dr_willis:)05:39
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Dr_willisok.. not really05:39
gugu^can someone help me to configure Local network05:40
Kite_DHyuriy: doesnt work...05:40
m4gnu5lmao05:40
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m4gnu5vericose veins . . .05:40
Dr_willisgugu^,  care to clarify the question?05:40
m4gnu5I just got it.05:40
yuriyintelikey: try going to a konsole and typing kcmshell printers05:40
intelikeyyuriy also if i go to  127.0.0.1:631   i get the cups page but nothing in the page will work.05:40
fakepatriotcan someone tell me why Wine isn't showing up after i install it? i am running kubuntu edgy on AMD64.05:40
yuriythen go to add and see if you get any errors in konsole05:40
m4gnu5Me too fakepatriot.05:40
Dr_willisfakepatriot,   because it really dosen run by itself.. install some app with it (wine whatever.exe) and it 'should' make an icon05:41
gugu^Dr_willis: How to setup Linux as a router for DSL05:41
yuriyintelikey: have you tried administrator mode in the control module or have you put in your password for the cups page?05:41
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Dr_willisgugu^,  you got linux connected by dsl to the internet now?05:41
gugu^yes05:41
Dr_willisgugu^,  you got a 2nd network for the linux box?05:42
gugu^yes05:42
Dr_willisheh.. i 'think' what you want to check out is the ip-masquerading feature.. but its been ages sincve ive messed with it.05:42
intelikeyyuriy ok.  got error out of that.   "cant find module printer"05:42
fakepatriotsorry..i am kinda new at this...what does that mean exactly?05:42
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Dr_willisfakepatriot,  what does what mean?05:42
gugu^eth0 - for internet,  eth1 for local network05:42
Dr_williswine - isent a app you just 'run' you run it to run a windows binary05:43
monsterb_yuriy i tried it and works great :)05:43
fakepatriot"wine_0.9.31~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10-1_i386.deb"05:43
fakepatriotoops05:43
intelikeyyuriy oh wait.05:43
Admiral_Chicago05:43
fakepatriotwrong paste05:43
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  i dident think wine worked on the 64bit disrto either...05:43
intelikeyyuriy my bad.   ok that just brings me right back to the kcontrol window for printers.05:43
intelikeyyuriy and clicking add just blanks the window05:44
fakepatriotwell i follwed some instructions from the website that apparently make it work...but since ive never use Wine before i don't know if they worked or how to run Wine...05:44
gugu^Dr_willis: I found in internet how to do this, but I`m not understanding 2 steps05:44
Kite_DHyuriy: this sucks :(...still cant print05:44
Dr_willisgugu^,  its such a common task there may be some trivialy easy way to enable it  :) but i got a linksys router i use instead.05:45
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Dr_willisgugu^,  whats the part ya dont get?05:45
m4gnu5Hey Intelikey . . .05:45
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  download some windows binary.. and from the shell use 'wine whatever.exe'05:45
intelikeyyuriy    did you run hide ?05:45
intelikeyhey m4gnu505:45
gugu^Dr_willis: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-as-router-for-dsl-t1-line-etc.html05:46
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gugu^Dr_willis: Sptep5 and 605:46
yuriyKite_DH: have you tried what monsterb_ was saying? kite_DH goto cups website and use online setup program in your web browser ---> http://localhost:631/   u need root/password05:46
monsterb_Kite_DH did u try cups website? Pretty easy http://localhost:631/ - just login with your root/password - if your printer is plugged in and turned on, it will find it.05:46
m4gnu5<smiles>  Just wondering.  Why is hda5's color blue with green background when my other drives are blue with black background color?05:46
yuriyintelikey: all updates installed? what version of KDE?05:46
Dr_willisgugu^,  you want to set the other machines on the lan to use the linux box as their gateway machine05:47
fakepatriotoh ok i think i get it now..i'll try thanks for the help...05:47
m4gnu5Is it important?05:47
intelikeyyuriy all updates that the standard repos present05:47
gugu^i`m usin kubuntu on all machines05:47
intelikeym4gnu5 permsiision probably05:47
intelikeypermissions05:47
Dr_willisgugu^,  so confiure the network on the machines to use the first linux box as their gateway05:48
cpk1gugu^: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE05:48
m4gnu5I thought maybe, but wanted to ask.  Thank you for taking time to answer my questions, my friend.05:48
intelikeym4gnu5 where are you seeing this colour ?05:48
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Kite_DHmonsterb_: KDEPrint made it with CUPS too...didnt work out05:48
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gugu^Dr_willis: and I, whant to internet on them (its for an internet cafe)05:48
intelikeym4gnu5 from the ls command ?05:48
m4gnu5In terminal/console...05:48
intelikeyyeah that will be perm tripping that.05:48
gugu^Dr_willis: How05:49
gugu^:)05:49
m4gnu5Sorry, konsole.05:49
yuriyintelikey: shot in the dark, but upgrading to kde 3.5.5 from kubuntu.org _might_ help05:49
m4gnu5Okay.  Groovy.05:49
Dr_willisgugu^,  yes...  that makes sence...  you use the network confifguration tools to SET THE other machiens 'gateway' to the ip of the 'routerbox'05:49
gugu^cpk1: i have tried, and it`s not working05:49
cpk1gugu^: from the machine that is connected to the internet run this iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE05:49
Dr_willis!masquerade05:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about masquerade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:49
cpk1gugu^: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward needs to say 1 not 005:49
Dr_willisi wonder if thers a ubuntu specific guide for this.05:49
intelikeyyuriy i really don't want to corrupt this installation    it's 100% apt getable  no forign repos.05:50
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cpk1Dr_willis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyWirelessToWiredConnectionSharing that? it is basically the same if you have 2 wired connections05:51
intelikeythat way when packages break i can bitch all i want about it.   cause i know it's not something i added.05:51
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cpk1gugu^: still with me?05:52
gugu^cpk1: yes05:52
monsterb_Kite_DH your printer a Lexmark Optra Color 1200?05:52
cpk1gugu^: did you check  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward05:52
gugu^no05:53
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cpk1gugu^: edit /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and change the 0 to 105:54
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gugu^cpk1:  I must write something at the begining /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward05:54
fakepatriotDr_willis, ok i tried but nothing happens...also if i try to run a '.exe' file by clicking on it i get an error message that says "KDEInit could not launch 'wine'"05:54
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  dont click.. use the shell05:54
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  you did install wine allready?05:54
cpk1gugu^: kdesu kate /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward05:54
fakepatriotlqtm, yes05:54
gugu^cpk1: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward05:54
gugu^cpk1:  no write permission for file "/prc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"05:55
Dr_willisyou normally echo to that file.. the 'ip-masquerading howto' has lots of good info on this.05:55
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gugu^cpk1: kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.005:56
fakepatriotDr_willis, i did 'kdesu wine Steaminstall.exe'05:56
cpk1gugu^: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward05:56
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gugu^cpk1: its working05:57
cpk1gugu^: the network is?05:57
gugu^cpk1: no05:57
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  why not try somthing SIMPLE.. and you dont need to 'kdesu' it...05:58
gugu^cpk1: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward05:58
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  go download some simple windows game.. or find sol.exe05:58
cpk1gugu^: if you have also done the MASQUERADE command then the boxes should be able to go outside now05:58
fakepatriotDr_willis, ok i am gonna try to run a quake III demo i have installed on my flash drive...05:59
x04ty29er_am i disconnected?05:59
x04ty29er_apparently not05:59
intelikeywell i found one of my problems   lo   was down   was keeping me from using a browser to access cups   but i still have the same error there.  clicking any link/button in the cups page does nothing.05:59
gugu^cpk1: what do you mean05:59
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  quake has native linux ports.. :)05:59
cpk1gugu^: the other computers connected to that one should be able to access the internet now05:59
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intelikeyx04ty29er_ yes you are disconnected now.   we can't see you.05:59
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x04ty29er_lol06:00
alaanyone know how to add a directory to the system wide path?06:00
x04ty29er_im not an idiot06:00
intelikey:)06:00
fakepatriotDr_willis, oh...heh06:00
intelikey?06:00
x04ty29er_lol06:00
x04ty29er_i saw other people say stuff06:00
Dr_willisala,  thers some /etc/bashrc or similer files you can define the default PATH06:00
x04ty29er_and realized06:00
x04ty29er_that i was still connected06:00
HymnToLifeala, yep, edit the relevant line in /etc/bashrc06:00
Dr_willisala,  better to just edit the users .bashrc or .bash_profile06:01
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gugu^cpk1: it`s not working06:01
intelikeyx04ty29er_ if you want a test that doesn't tell us that you are wondering try pinging your nick06:01
cpk1gugu^: see if one of the other computers can connect to this ip 64.233.187.99 (that's google)06:01
x04ty29erhm06:01
x04ty29eri guess so06:01
x04ty29erbut06:02
x04ty29erthis is faster06:02
intelikeythat only you and the guy that pings you sees what's going on.06:02
x04ty29erhm06:02
x04ty29eri might next time06:02
intelikey/ping x04ty29er_06:02
intelikeyam i disconnected?06:02
intelikeylooks like less typing to ping yourself06:03
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x04ty29erhm06:03
x04ty29ermore thinking06:03
gugu^cpk1: i`m sorry, but no06:03
soulrider!beryl06:03
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:03
fakepatriotDr_willis, well that didnt work...am i supposed to trying to install stuff or run '.exe' files?06:03
cpk1gugu^: and these can all ping the main computer that is doing the networking?06:04
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nomad111hey all i have a dell inspiron 6400/e1505 which has a ricoh sd/mmc card reader, the problem is that when i put the card in its not getting detected06:06
nomad111i cant see the card reader in /media06:06
Kite_DHmonsterb_: no, its a Lexmark 1200 Series06:06
nomad111does any1 kno a solution06:07
Kite_DHmonsterb_: it has a scanner at the top06:07
fakepatriotnomad111, is the card reader plugged in?06:07
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  you install wine..  if its installed then 'wine' from the shell will run wine.. you normally use wine to run a windows binary for example to run sol.exe you would use 'wine sol.exe'06:07
nomad111fakepatriot: its inbuilt into the laptop06:07
gugu^cpk1: "The network is unreachable"06:08
fakepatriotnomad111, oh then i have no clue...try !card reader06:08
fakepatriot!card reader06:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about card reader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:08
fakepatriotcurse you ubotu!06:08
cpk1gugu^: ok so lets say box1 is the computer connected to the modem and box2 and box3 are the computers connected to box106:08
Dr_willisThe media-card-reader in my laptop is not supported by linux at this time. :( sadly06:09
cpk1gugu^: box2 cant ping box1?06:09
Dr_willisbut a $5 usb media reader works fine.06:09
gugu^cpk1: no they can`t06:09
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cpk1gugu^: ok on box1 is eth1 configured?06:10
alathis is the relevant part in my .bash_profile06:10
ala# set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists06:11
alaif [ -d ~/bin ]  ; then06:11
ala    PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"06:11
ala    PATH=/usr/local/binpy:"${PATH}"06:11
alafi06:11
alai added the part about binpy...06:11
underdog5004!paste06:11
alais it correct?06:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:11
gugu^cpk1:  it`s configured with windows server, but now is kubuntu server06:11
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cpk1gugu^: huh?06:11
gugu^cpk1:  :)06:11
intelikeyok i'm getting an error now.   at least that's something to work with.      when i click the    print server > configure server       i get "Unable to configure print server. Error message received from manager:  \n   Unable to retrieve configuration file from the CUPS server. You probably don't have the access permissions to perform this operation."06:11
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cpk1gugu^: box1 is running linux correct?06:11
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intelikeyso avoiding the obvious.   what would that mean ?06:12
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gugu^cpk1:  yes06:12
jbruckmanso, i'm getting an error with my modules. It says there is an orphane dmodule or something? I'm trying to change some system settings, and I can't. Can someone help me figure out what's wrong, and fix it?06:12
cpk1gugu^: alright so is eth1 configured? what does ifconfig say its ip is?06:13
fakepatriotDr_willis, ok well i tried 'wine' by itself and it gave me the same error message as when i clicked on '.exe' files...i suppose i will just try to reinstall...or should i just give up?06:13
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Forgehmm how do I set my samba computername and workgroup in kubuntu06:15
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Dr_willisfakepatriot,   what error?06:15
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Forgebrb06:16
gugu^cpk1: there is no ip in ifconfig06:16
Dr_willisForge,  edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf06:16
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ForgeAusback06:17
fakepatriotDr_willis, "KDEInit could not launch 'wine'"06:17
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Dr_willisfakepatriot,  not from 'clicking' what happens if you type 'wine' in a terminal?06:17
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  you did install wine dident you?06:18
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nomad111does any1 kno a good c ide06:18
nomad111ansi c06:18
Dr_willisemacs :)06:18
nomad111does it have auto complete06:19
nomad111and syntax highlighting06:19
Dr_willisemacs has everything.. :)06:19
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nomad111even a compiler?06:19
Dr_willisits hardcore06:19
nomad111thats news to me06:19
Dr_willisall its lacking is a decent text editor. :)06:19
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fakepatriotDr_willis, that is the error it gave me when i typed just 'wine' by itself...yes i did install it as far as i know...like three times over too06:20
cpk1gugu^: alright do sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.27.106:20
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Dr_willisfakepatriot,  how did you install wine?   its not that hard to use...  and i dont see why running wine from a shell would give 'KDEInit could not launch 'wine''06:21
gugu^cpk1:  at the server or to other comp06:21
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cpk1gugu^: box106:22
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gugu^cpk1: ok06:23
cpk1gugu^: alright now would you like to use a dhcp server?06:23
gugu^cpk1: yes,06:23
fakepatriotDr_willis, i followed these instructions http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb and http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64 ...again, i am running kubuntu edgy AMD64...also i apologize if i am frustrating you...06:23
nomad111Dr_willis: the interface for emacs is ancient06:24
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cpk1gugu^: alright so install dhcp using whatever apt tool you like06:24
ChicoryArgh.06:24
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Dr_willisfakepatriot,  no idea on the amd64 stuff.. its possible that wine for amd64 is still flakey. I dont bother with the 64bit disrtos.06:25
gugu^cpk1: sudo apt-get install dhcpd       this is ok?06:25
cpk1gugu^: yes, but iirc it will tell you to install dhcp06:25
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  its highly possible wine is not installed correctly.06:25
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apallohow do i upgrade my kubuntu install to the latest version without reinstalling?06:26
fakepatriotDr_willis, well how can i make sure that it is installed correctly?06:26
apalloi realize that this is prolly a noob question, but i don't know where to start06:26
Adydassude apt-get upgrade06:26
gugu^cpk1: ok,06:26
cpk1gugu^: its installed?06:27
apallothat just upgrades the packages for this version i thought?06:27
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  no idea.. i dont mess with the 64bit disrtos.. i advise against using them.. theres not a lot to gain.. and a lot of issues to fight with.06:27
cpk1apallo: are you on dapper or edgy?06:27
fakepatriotapallo, sudo apt-get dist upgrade06:27
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gugu^cpk1:  yes, but its faild to start06:27
apallodapper06:27
cpk1gugu^: thats expected since its not configured =)06:27
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cpk1!upgrade | apallo06:27
ubotuapallo: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)06:27
apallothanks06:28
fakepatriotDr_willis, unfortunately for me this is my only box until i can afford to build my own...06:28
gugu^cpk1: :)06:28
cpk1gugu^: kdesu kate /etc/dhcpd.conf06:28
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  you dont need to run the 64bit disrtos on a 64bit machine.. they can run the 32bit disrto just fine.06:28
gugu^cpk1: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server, Xlib: No protocol specified, kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.006:30
fakepatriotDr_willis, are you serious!? christ! all this time!? i should've guessed...stuff like this always happens to me....damnit..well at least i know now06:30
cpk1gugu^: if you simply comment out everything and add this into it that should work, or you can find the lines that you should change and change those values http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6671/06:30
cpk1gugu^: you know how to use nano?06:30
gugu^cpk1:  nope :(06:31
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  ugh.. yes.. :) i never use the 64bit disrtos... i was THINKING you may of not realized that..06:31
cpk1gugu^: you get to learn, its really easy =D06:31
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  think about it.. they run the 32bit version of windows and even dos just fine.06:31
apalloit's telling me that 0 packages were upgraded06:31
cpk1gugu^: sudo nano /etc/dhcpd.conf06:31
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gugu^cpk1: i know06:32
fakepatriotDr_willis, so is there any advantages to running 64-bit?06:32
gugu^cpk1: I must learn06:32
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  in some special cases - yes.. but for most people.. no.06:32
apallo!ubotu finding kubuntu version06:32
Dr_willisfakepatriot,  i imagine in a year or so the 64bit stuff will get much better06:32
Dr_willisits allredy gotten a lot better then it used to be06:32
Admiral_Chicagovery true06:33
cpk1gugu^: so either comment out everything and add what is in my pastebin at the bottom or edit that file accordingly06:33
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fakepatriotDr_willis, hopefully....well i suppose i am off to get a 32-bit kubuntu....thanks for the help Doc06:33
AdydasAnything wrong with this, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6659/ why wont it work for the TV06:34
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slyfoxProblem - laptop - brigthness control - evey time I set a brigthness to be lower than maximum, when I relogin, it holds the brigthness as I set it for first 2 seconds and then switches back to maximum ? How do I fix this ?06:35
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Dr_willis"Within only a few days of Dell opening a new customer feedback website, they discovered that the feature most requested (by an almost 2-to-1 margin!) is an option on all new Dell PCs: pre-installed Linux.06:37
gugu^cpk1: And how I save this06:38
cpk1gugu^: ^O means ctrl shift o06:38
makuseruhi, when i do an "apt-get update" i get these errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6672/ how can i resolve this06:38
cpk1gugu^: ^ means ctrl and thats a capital o =)06:38
Adydasmakuseru: it looks like a key error06:39
Adydasyou have to install a key, hopefully somone else can help more..06:39
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Dr_willisthats weird that the keys for those sites are not there allready06:40
makuseruall i did was uncomment universe and multi universe06:40
makuseruyou dont need keys for that do you06:40
Dr_willisyou may want to paste your whole sources.list ,  for us to check out06:41
Dr_willisperhaps some funky weird typo. ive never seen messages like those befor06:41
slyfoxProblem - laptop - brigthness control - evey time I set a brigthness to be lower than maximum, when I relogin, it holds the brigthness as I set it for first 2 seconds and then switches back to maximum ? How do I fix this ?06:41
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makuserualright, just a sec Dr_Willis06:42
gugu^cpk1: :), thx06:43
gugu^cpk1: but is not working :)06:43
ForgeAushmmm I can browse and find folders and files on samba using smb:// easily enough but how do I access Kubuntu shared files from the other end?06:44
ForgeAuswhere do you set the computername and workgroup?06:44
Dr_willisForgeAus,  in the samba config file is where i set them06:44
Dr_willisbut im hardkore and like editing the files directly :)06:45
ForgeAustheres an /etc/samba.conf?06:45
Dr_willistheres a lot of samba config files..06:45
Dr_willisi pasted its location earlier i thouight06:45
cpk1gugu^: sudo nano /etc/default/dhcp and only have this INTERFACES="eth1" (you can leave all the stuff that is commented out there)06:45
Dr_willis - /etc/samba/*06:45
Dr_willisForgeAus,  the 'using samba' book is installable also as a package - so you can have it locally.06:45
makuseruDr_willis: http://pastebin.com/88503406:45
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Dr_willismakuseru,   #AUTOMATIX REPOS START06:47
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Dr_willisi would say # comment out EVERYTHING that automatix added06:47
makuseruthen how else can i get win32codecs? and other multamedia codecs06:47
mefisto__what's the website that generates a sources.list?06:47
Dr_willisbut lets check out the original error. :)06:47
Dr_willismakuseru,  you do NOT NOT NOT need to use automatix for that stuff06:48
makuseruyou dont?06:48
Dr_willisI have them and never use automatix06:48
makuseruhow can you get them then?06:48
Dr_willismakuseru,  you do  NOT NOT NOT x 10000000000006:48
Dr_willis:)06:48
makuserui just removed automatix06:48
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Dr_willisthey are in the severas repositoris is one way06:48
Dr_willisor ya can download the .deb from the mplayer homepage is another .06:48
Dr_willis!w32codecs06:49
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs06:49
Jucatohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs06:49
Kite_DH!customize06:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about customize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:49
Kite_DH!themes06:49
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:49
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Jucato!changethemes | Kite_DH06:50
ubotuKite_DH: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu06:50
makuseruso just add "deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas list_of_sections " to my sources?06:50
Jucatomakuseru: follow the instructions on that page06:51
makuserui dont see them06:51
Jucatoyou should substitute "list_of_sections" for an actual section, listed at the end of the page06:51
makuseruoh ok06:51
gugu^cpk1: there is nothing06:51
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cpk1gugu^: hmm?06:52
Dr_willisheh heh - it pays to read the site thourghly06:52
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AdydasIs there a Kde gui based way to setup tv out?06:53
mefisto__I've got kde 3.5.6 installed. To generate a sources.list from source-o-matic webpage, should I select the "Kubuntu.org bleeding edge KDE" option to receive the right updates?06:53
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ForgeAusback06:54
Jucatofront06:54
ForgeAusok where was I ... if the workgroup is set to a matching string...06:54
justin_Hey guys, I have a quick question.. I'm a newb and I think I messed something big up recently.. When I try to run Kate from the command line I get the error:06:54
ForgeAusthen the computer should show up (whatever name it is) in the same workgroup right?06:54
justin_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16606:54
justin_  Major opcode:  14406:54
justin_  Minor opcode:  306:55
Dr_willisForgeAus,  you need to restart the samba services06:55
justin_  Resource id:  0x006:55
Admiral_Chicagojustin_: that's why you run kate with "run command" in the K menu06:55
justin_Failed to open device06:55
justin_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16606:55
makuseruDr_willis: i removed all automatix things, and same problem, plus a key error for that new repo even though i added the key, but it siad it wouldnt export the key06:55
ForgeAusDr Willis how do you do that?06:55
Dr_willisjustin_,  thats such a faq. :) its from the wacom tablet being in the xorg.conf06:55
justin_  Major opcode:  14406:55
justin_  Minor opcode:  306:55
justin_  Resource id:  0x006:55
justin_Failed to open device06:55
justin_Oops sorry about that06:55
justin_thought it might go on one line.. =)06:55
Dr_willisForgeAus,  same as any other service.. :)     - sudo /etc/init.d/whatever restart06:55
ForgeAusI'm not even certain I've started them to begin with!06:55
justin_All apologies for the faq then!06:55
Dr_willis:)06:55
justin_Thanks for the help06:55
Jucato!pastebin | justin_06:55
ubotujustin_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:55
Dr_willisjustin_,  lets find the url06:55
Dr_willis!wacom06:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:55
Dr_willis!tablet06:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:56
Dr_willishmm..06:56
Jucatoer.. Dr_willis?06:56
ForgeAusum I don't see any samba in /etc/init.d/06:56
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justin_Did I miss something?06:56
Dr_williswhats thats factoud for that wacom/tablet thing...06:57
mefisto__justin_: if you want to get rid of that message, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=126400906:57
intelikeyif you did i did too06:57
Jucatojustin_: those errors are for the wacom entries in xorg.conf. but since you don't have a wacom or are not using a Tablet PC, they show up. but these errors are safe to ignore06:57
Adydas!tvout06:57
ubotuFor help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)06:57
makuseruDr_willis: i removed all automatix things, and same problem, plus a key error for that new repo even though i added the key, but it siad it wouldnt export the key06:57
Dr_willisjust real annoying errors. :)06:57
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mefisto__I've got kde 3.5.6 installed. To generate a sources.list from source-o-matic webpage, should I select the "Kubuntu.org bleeding edge KDE" option to receive the right updates?06:57
Jucatowhich can be avoided by launching GUI apps from Alt+F2 :)06:57
justin_Oh great ok thanks, I was trying to install beryl and kate scared me from the outset06:57
justin_but I'll just ignore it06:58
cpk1gugu^: so where are you at now?06:58
ForgeAusare you sure dr_willis theres no /etc/init.d/* files with smb or samba in them anywhere06:58
Dr_willisnot on ubuntu at this minet.. let me check06:58
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kevmanHey, where do I put a command that I want to run every time I boot?06:59
kevmanWhat script?06:59
intelikeyDr_willis the wacom errors ?06:59
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Admiral_Chicagokevman: ~/.kde/Autostart06:59
kevmanI need before X loads.06:59
JucatoForgeAus: I believe you have to install samba06:59
Dr_willisForgeAus,  i got a /etc/init.d/samba script.. to start samba06:59
ForgeAuswhich package?07:00
intelikeyDr_willis was that what you were asking about ?07:00
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Dr_willisintelikey,  i forget....07:00
JucatoForgeAus: samba :)07:00
ForgeAusahh IC samba itself07:00
Dr_willis:)07:00
ForgeAusI thought I already had it07:00
Jucato!info samba | ForgeAus07:00
ubotuforgeaus: samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 2956 kB, installed size 7392 kB07:00
Jucatohm.. ubotu? slacking off?07:00
mefisto__I've got kde 3.5.6 installed. To generate a sources.list from source-o-matic webpage, should I select the "Kubuntu.org bleeding edge KDE" option to receive the right updates?07:00
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ForgeAushmm I wish XP had some simple LDAP07:01
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gugu^cpk1: I modified Ip adress on box and its working07:01
Jucatomefisto__: 3.5.6 is the latest. but yes, the kde-latest repository would probably give you the proper updates07:01
intelikeyDr_willis it's real simple to remove the three wacom device listings in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf     the three device listings and the mention of them in the server section07:01
Admiral_Chicagokevman: what exactly are you trying to do07:01
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Dr_willisintelikey,  yes - i can do it.. :) but others need help. heh ...07:01
cpk1gugu^: great can box2 access google?07:01
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Dr_willisintelikey,  of course i actually have a wacom tablet.. it sucks...07:02
Dr_willis:)07:02
intelikeylol07:02
ForgeAusI wonder when "longhorn"/vista server will come out...07:02
makuseruDr_willis: i removed all automatix things, and same problem, plus a key error for that new repo even though i added the key, but it siad it wouldnt export the key07:02
Admiral_Chicagowho cares, their servers are terrible07:02
kevmanAdmiral_Chicago, there is a little app that hacks this thing's video BIOS into support the resolution I want it X to start in.07:02
mefisto__Jucato: so what the source-o-matic page refers to as "bleeding edge" is kde 3.5.6? or is it more recent than that?07:02
BrettVI attempted to run adept but it would not load. So I restarted my machine. Now when I run adept it says that another process is using it so I cannot. I guess there is a crashed process running... can someone help me fix this?07:03
Admiral_Chicagokevman: wow, okay good luck with that, never heard of it07:03
Admiral_Chicago!adeptcrash | BrettV07:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:03
Dr_willismakuseru,  thats not really an error - i think you can still install stuff.. it will just warn you about them not being verified.07:03
Jucatomefisto__: the latest kde version is 3.5.6. source-o-matic will add a kubuntu.org/kde-latest repository if you check that "bleeding edge" option. kde-latest will hold future kde updates (if they come)07:03
gugu^cpk1: yes07:03
Admiral_Chicagodammit, who knows the factoid07:03
kevmanAdmiral_Chicago, the command works fine. I just need it run at boot.07:03
intelikeyDr_willis i find it easiest to help others by having them pastbin their xorg.conf then correcting it and saying there use that     saves time too.07:03
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Jucato!adeptfix | BrettV07:03
ubotuBrettV: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 07:03
BrettVhehe07:03
BrettVthanks Jucato07:04
cpk1gugu^: alright we arent done yet though =)07:04
mefisto__thanks Jucato07:04
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: it's adeptfix or adeptcrashfix07:04
Admiral_Chicagothere you go. thanks Jucato.07:04
gugu^cpk1: thank you very much :)07:04
makuseruDr_willis: oh, well whats the package form seveas that has the codecs in it?07:04
intelikeymakuseru warning != error07:04
Dr_willismakuseru,  w32codecs  i think07:04
Dr_willis!find w32codecs07:04
Jucatomakuseru: if you just need w32codecs, you could just download the .deb file and install that07:04
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Jucatomakuseru: I gave the link earlier07:05
ubotuPackage/file w32codecs does not exist in edgy07:05
Jucatohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs07:05
Jucatomakuseru: ^^^07:05
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cpk1gugu^: sudo iptables-save > /etc/network/iptables.list (this saves your current MASQUERADE rule in /etc/network/iptables.list)07:05
makuseruthanks07:06
gugu^cpk1: ok, thx07:08
cpk1gugu^: still more work to do =)07:08
BrettVIs perl installed by default?07:09
cpk1gugu^: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces07:09
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JucatoBrettV: I believe so07:10
intelikeyJucato in a cli browser i can't see the whole link on that page.   it's needs a tinyurl added.07:10
Jucatointelikey: which one?07:10
cpk1gugu^: edit the eth1 line to look like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6673/07:11
intelikey https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs07:11
intelikeythe rul to the actual .deb07:11
Jucatoin the wiki itself? hm... hold on07:11
intelikeyturncates at about  http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32code07:11
justin_Ah yeah I was removing them as we speak07:12
Jucatointelikey: it's not a url you click though.. because it's supposed to be used with wget. there's nothing to click in the wiki page itself07:12
justin_Is there a way to jump to an su, I was IN kate editing my xorg.conf file and it won't let me save because I don't have the power.. So I'll have to close it without saving and run sudo kate from the command line, THEN I can save it07:13
intelikeyyes i know.  that's the point.  the cli user doesn't get the full address.07:13
nibletsMy kopete wont connect to the MSN server, and ideas of how to fix it?r07:13
intelikey@ Jucato ^07:13
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nibletsI get a mixture of "your password was wrong" (whereas it is ALWAYS correct" and "Could not connect to the MSN server"07:14
Jucatointelikey: how permanent is a tinyurl? how long does the tinyurl's link to the real url last?07:14
intelikeyerr console user     but it doesn't really matter cause i don't do proprietary and dr_willis already has it...   that's about the extent of console users in here07:14
intelikeyJucato i don't really know.07:15
makuseruhi, when i "apt-get update" i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6674/ how can i fix this?07:15
intelikeymakuseru those are warnings.    telling you that you don't have the correct gpg key.07:16
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intelikeyor you don't have gpg installed ?07:16
intelikey!gpg07:16
ubotugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto07:16
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intelikeynice net split...07:19
intelikeyye ha07:20
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nibletsWhat just happened to everyone? And can anyone tell me how to update kopete?07:20
cpk1thats a real netsplit intelikey =)07:20
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Jucato_yay kool! netsplit?07:21
Jucato_hahah07:21
Jucato_niblets: what version do you have now?07:21
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mefisto__are there normally any items in kmenu related to wine? should I expect to see anything after installing wine?07:21
Jucato_current Kopete version available in Kubuntu is 0.12.4 (using KDE 3.5.6)07:21
soulrider!basket07:21
ubotubasket: User-friendly way to run programs and manage links in KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-6 (edgy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1176 kB07:21
intelikeyyeah  real as in several servers desynced07:21
nibletsJucato_ How can I find out my current version?07:22
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Jucato_mefisto__: after installing wine? no. sometimes kmenu entries appear for apps you installed using wine07:22
Jucato_niblets: Kopete Help menu -> About Kopete07:22
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intelikeyor kopete --version07:23
niblets0.12.3 (using KDE 3.5.5)07:23
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Jucato_niblets: if you're on Edgy, you can upgrade your KDE to 3.5.6. if you're on Dapper, you're stuck with KDE 3.5.5 for now07:23
nibletsI'm on edgy07:23
Jucato_http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php <---07:24
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nibletsHow easy is it to upgrade/update?07:25
gugu^cpk1: ok....07:25
cpk1gugu^: finished?07:26
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gugu^cpk1: yes07:26
Jucato_niblets: so far, I have heard of no problems regarding upgrades from KDE 3.5.5 to 3.5.607:26
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nibletsSo do I put in the console command they have in italics?07:26
niblets*not italics, lighter text07:26
cpk1gugu^: I think thats it, do me a favor though and pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/network/interfaces' and also the output of 'cat /etc/dhcpd.conf'07:26
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Jucato_niblets: um... you run the commands to download and add the key. then you add one of the repositories listed there to your sources.list07:27
fanscore!fr07:27
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:27
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intelikeycups error   E  Unable to bind socket for address 127.0.0.1:631 - Address already in use.07:27
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Jucato_intelikey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs <--- good enough for you?07:28
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nibletshow do I add them to the sources list? Jucato_07:29
Jucato_!repositories | niblets07:29
ubotuniblets: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:29
Jucato_intructions are there07:29
nibletsthanks07:29
gugu^cpk1: on private07:29
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cpk1!pastebin | gugu^07:30
ubotugugu^: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:30
intelikeyJucato_ yea   http://tinyurl.com/ye7s6w   that i can see   (:07:30
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gugu^cpk1:  ok07:30
gugu^auto eth007:30
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gugu^iface eth0 inet dhcp07:30
nibletsSo updating this would update Kopete? Jucato_07:30
cpk1gugu^: NO07:30
gugu^auto eth107:30
cpk1gugu^: stop07:30
gugu^iface eth1 inet static07:30
gugu^address 192.168.27.107:30
cpk1gugu^: ...07:30
gugu^netmask 255.255.255.007:30
gugu^gateway 192.168.27.107:30
Jucatoniblets: it would update all of KDE, including Kopete07:31
gugu^pre-up /sbin/iptables-restore /etc/network/iptables.rules07:31
cpk1gugu^: did you read the factoid?07:31
gugu^auto eth207:31
gugu^iface eth2 inet dhcp07:31
gugu^auto ath007:31
gugu^iface ath0 inet dhcp07:31
gugu^auto wlan007:31
gugu^iface wlan0 inet dhcp07:31
gugu^iface dsl-provider inet ppp07:31
gugu^provider dsl-provider07:31
cpk1...07:31
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gugu^cpk1:  yes07:31
intelikeydoes anyone know how to kill a socket ?07:32
gugu^cpk1: sorry07:32
intelikeycups error   E  Unable to bind socket for address 127.0.0.1:631 - Address already in use.07:32
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cpk1gugu^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org click that link then paste the text into that and then press the paste bottom at the bottom of that page07:32
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intelikeyE [20/Feb/2007:00:32:59 -0600]  Unable to save remote.cache - Permission denied   also getting that error07:33
olegI need help with ubuntu's automount system. Usually multiple users are logged into the computer through kde. When an active user inserts media into the computer, other user gets media access rights instead.07:34
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gugu^cpk1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6680/07:35
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Jucato_ok this is getting annoying07:37
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Jucatoseriously...07:37
cpk1gugu^: looks good but comment out option domain-name "fugue.com"; and option domain-name-servers toccata.fugue.com; in /etc/dhcpd.conf you dont need those07:37
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nibletsWhen I changed the repositories on Adept, it says I have to hit apply, but the apply button is faded (un clickable)07:37
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gugu^cpk1:  so I can remove theme07:38
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cpk1gugu^: just put a # at the beginning of the line they are on07:38
Admiral_Chicagoniblets: are you suod07:38
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gugu^ok07:39
shawnyboihey whats up?07:39
Admiral_Chicagohello07:39
nibletsAdmiral_Chicago Am I what, sorry?07:39
Admiral_Chicagoniblets: did you enter your password at anypoint?07:39
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nibletsyes07:40
nibletsI got a prompt when I opened adept07:40
gugu^cpk1: thank you07:40
Admiral_Chicagohmm, okay have a screenshoot?07:40
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gugu^cpk1:  Can I give You one more quiestion?07:40
gugu^:)07:41
cpk1gugu^: now when you restart box1 everything *should* work07:41
cpk1sure07:41
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gugu^cpk1:  how to install xlibs07:41
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cpk1xlibs-data?07:41
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cpk1sudo aptitude install xlibs-data07:42
nibletsAdmiral_Chicago I do, but how can I show you it?07:42
Admiral_Chicagoniblets: upload it to imageshack07:42
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nibletsok.07:43
willy#kubuntu-es07:43
nibletsOk, nevermind, I have gotten past that. But now I have applied the universe multiverse thing, what do I do? the guide doesnt say how to get KDE 3.5.6 from there on07:45
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gugu^cpk1:  I whant to install ymessenger,and theire says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6682/07:45
cpk1gugu^: so try aptitude install -f?07:46
underdog5004so, when I get katapult up, and I type in "swif" I get the swiftfox browser. If I type in "swift" I get a link to www.getswiftfox.com, which opens in konq...any ideas?07:47
Admiral_Chicagounderdog5004: it's in your home directore...07:47
Jucatoactually, it's the Bookmark Catalog conflicting with the Programs Catalog07:47
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Jucato(afaik and iirc)07:48
Jucatoyou can remove the Bookmark catalog if you want.07:48
Admiral_Chicagohmm, that is also a possibility07:48
underdog5004Admiral_Chicago, I'm looking at my /home now...can't see any .katapult dir or anything like that...07:48
Admiral_Chicagounderdog5004: look at your bookmarks07:48
JucatoAlt+Space, Ctrl+C (to bring up the config menu) -> Configure Katapult -> Catalogs -> remove Bookmark Catalog07:48
Admiral_Chicagoor it may be in kmenu07:49
gugu^cpk1: yes, but i can`t install yamessenger07:49
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underdog5004nope on bookmarks and nope on .kmenu...07:49
underdog5004or kmenu07:49
Jucatounderdog5004: did you try removing the bookmark catalog?07:50
underdog5004I don't see one, even in my /home w/ hidden folders shown...07:50
Jucatounderdog5004: <Jucato> Alt+Space, Ctrl+C (to bring up the config menu) -> Configure Katapult -> Catalogs -> remove Bookmark Catalog07:50
underdog5004thanks07:51
underdog5004I see it now...you rock07:51
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Contrast012083What's up, everyone?07:53
Contrast012083Does anyone here have both Gnome and KDE installed?07:53
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underdog5004Jucato, very cool, I got it!07:54
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Contrast012083Is there any way to configure the way GTK apps look in KDE, besides what's available in KControl?07:55
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underdog5004idk07:58
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d03boyi was just playing with my video settings and now i cant change my resolution back to 1280x80007:59
d03boyi change it, but when I restart X it doesnt save it ors omething07:59
d03boyits weird07:59
underdog5004sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:59
d03boy...thats a little rediculous :P08:00
d03boyi know what videocard I have. I know what monitor I have08:00
underdog5004well...yeah...08:00
Contrast012083d03boy, was 1280x800 the default setting when you installed Kubuntu?08:00
d03boyContrast012083, I believe so08:00
Contrast012083then yeah, just run the command underdog said.08:00
d03boythere is a specific "monitor driver" that shows up in the list for my laptop08:00
d03boyugh... once I start this reconfigure, can I cnacel out of it?08:02
d03boycancel08:02
Contrast012083No, it make a backup of the file it's overwriting.08:02
Contrast012083What it does is reset your xorg.conf (the file that determines all the settings your display device, video card, and input devices) back to its default settings.08:03
d03boywell I just totally screwed up that command08:03
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d03boyso I need to fix it now08:03
d03boyback to what it was a minute ago08:03
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gugu^cpk1:When i whant to install ymessenger, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6685/08:04
Contrast012083Do you use Beryl or Compiz?08:04
d03boywho are you talking to?08:05
Contrast012083you.08:05
d03boyi'm not using either of them08:05
Contrast012083gugu, did you check and see if you have those packages installed in Synaptic?08:05
Contrast012083Then you should be good. Just run that command and you're set.08:05
Contrast012083If that doesn't work the way you want it to...08:06
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Contrast012083Open Konqueror as root (Alt+F2, kdesu konqueror), go to /etc/X11, switch the view mode to Tree, and sort by date...08:06
d03boyim still confused as to why I cant just use the system settings :P08:07
Contrast012083Then open xorg.conf and whichever backup file was modified around the time you started messing with things. Just delete the contents of xorg.conf and paste the contents of the other one in to it.08:07
d03boyyou'd think it would work...08:07
Contrast012083Yeah, you'd think so. It usually does, but it has problems with certain devices sometimes.08:08
Contrast012083How long have you been using Linux?08:08
d03boya few years08:08
d03boyits my secondary laptop though08:08
d03boyso I dont use it primarily08:08
d03boyit usually just sits here with irc open08:08
Contrast012083And you're still not comfortable editing config. files? :-P08:08
d03boyya I am08:08
d03boyxorg has always been a problem for me08:09
d03boyit doesnt like my hardware I think08:09
Contrast012083J/p... What kind of setup do you have?08:09
d03boydell inspiron 8600 laptop08:09
d03boypain in the ass :(08:09
Contrast012083What kind of graphics card, I mean?08:09
d03boygeforce fx 5600 Go!08:09
d03boyi think thats the name ofit08:10
d03boy64mb08:10
Contrast012083Have you tried installed the proprietary NVidia driver?08:10
Contrast012083installing*08:10
d03boyi believe that is what I have installed at the moment08:10
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d03boyi installed it with apt-get a few days ago08:10
Contrast012083nvidia-glx?08:10
d03boyran glxgears and it worked fine08:10
Contrast012083Hmm08:10
Contrast012083Did you try changing the resolution with nvidia-settings?08:11
d03boyno08:11
d03boyhaha, I have no idea that existed08:11
Contrast012083You [i] might[/i]  give that a shot if you're determined. If it doesn't work, you can always run that command to reset it.08:11
Contrast012083Oh, one thing to keep in mind...08:11
Contrast012083Running that command will reset your driver back to the free "nv" driver.08:12
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Contrast012083Open a terminal, type nv and hit tab a couple times. You'll see all the different NVidia tools that came with the prop. driver.08:12
d03boyya, thats why i decided to cancel :P08:12
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Contrast012083Did you see what I was saying about just copying and pasting your previous xorg.conf into the current one?08:13
d03boyya i already did that08:13
d03boywith mv08:13
d03boyhopefully thats ok08:14
Contrast012083Should be good then. That's what I always do when I've screwed something up and it's always worked.08:14
d03boycool08:15
Contrast012083Once you're sure it's working alright, you might want to keep a copy of your working xorg.conf in an easy-to-remember place so you won't have to hunt through /etc/X11 for the right one.08:16
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d03boygood call08:16
Contrast012083Have you checked out Beryl before/know what it is?08:17
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d03boyive heard about it and seen videos08:18
d03boyi was actually considering installing it08:18
d03boyi dont know a lot about it though08:18
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Contrast012083Which release of Kubuntu are you using?08:19
captnjack4564what do i get by downloading the dvd instead of the cd?08:19
Contrast012083Good question. I didn't even know there was a DVD.08:19
underdog5004captnjack4564, more packages.08:19
underdog5004well, more packages available w/o d/l'ing them08:19
Contrast012083More bloat, in other words. :-\08:20
d03boyim on dapper08:20
captnjack4564bloat... kinda like vista?08:20
underdog5004no, more bloat readily available08:20
Contrast012083That'd be tough to match, captnjack4564.08:20
captnjack4564haha yeah... so you guys dont think there would be advantage in downloading the dvd08:21
Contrast012083do3boy, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu08:21
d03boyi installed with the netinstall captnjack08:21
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captnjack4564where do i find the netinstall... i didnt know it existed08:21
Jucatocaptnjack4564: if you don't have an very good internet connection and you want more package readily available without having to download, you're better off with the DVD08:22
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Contrast012083captnjack, I personally don't, but you might want to find out what is actually included in the DVD. It might be stuff you would use.08:22
Jucatoafaik, the DVD includes all of main and restricted, and some universe apps08:22
d03boyaw, beryl is not supported on dapper :(08:22
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d03boyoh well, who needs support?08:23
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captnjack4564well i'm on a university network so download speed really isn't an issue ;)08:23
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Contrast012083The Beryl forums are good enough support for me.08:23
Contrast012083jack, I'd say go with the CD. You can always look through the repositories on Synaptic and decide what you want to install yourself.08:24
captnjack4564sweet thanks08:24
Contrast012083I'd like to see Ubuntu start offering a custom install option, where it asks you what all you do on your computer throughout the process, and only installs the relevant packages.08:25
vgeContrast012083: i think it's simple that way that it installs "everything" for new people08:26
d03boyya08:27
captnjack4564where can i find the netinstall just out of curiosity to look at it?08:27
d03boymaybe there isnt one... maybe I did dl the whole cd08:27
Jucatothere's a netinstall, but not an official CD afaik08:27
Jucato!netinstall08:27
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues08:27
captnjack4564wicked08:28
Contrast012083True, but I'm just saying it'd be nice if they could put up a seperate ISO for more experienced users who don't want to spend the first hour after installing the CD removing software.08:28
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underdog5004So, dell has basically cloned digg.com to see what people want. They have an "idea" that you can promote...Preinstalled linux. Go there and make it count!   www.dellideastorm.com08:31
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olegI need help with ubuntu's automount system. Usually multiple users are logged into the computer through kde. When an active user inserts media into the computer, other user gets media access rights instead.08:32
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user______serena08:33
underdog5004serena?08:33
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user______uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu08:38
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underdog5004hmm, you're retarded.08:39
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krautmoin08:42
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Ademananyone know about how large a fresh install of edgy is?08:49
underdog5004about 2.5 gigs08:49
underdog5004I think the installer says that your / partition needs a minimum of 2 gigs...08:49
Ademanalright cool thanks08:50
underdog5004but 2.5-3 is about what I see in rl...08:50
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underdog5004np08:50
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_fitz_http://www.repubblica.it/2005/i/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/software/cuba-linux/cuba-linux.html08:56
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piro_does firefox close suddenly for anyone else ?09:02
vgeseldom, but yes09:03
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piro_wondering if i should get back to 1.509:03
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vgehavent bothered me that mutch as it has the "restore windows" - option, but if it's constant, i see no big deal converting back09:04
vge*would not see big..09:04
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yettenetHello there! Can anyone tell me where I can set startup applications?09:07
Jucato!autostart | yettenet09:08
ubotuyettenet: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.09:08
yettenetI see09:08
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yettenetAnd where can I disable KDE remembering my previous session09:08
yettenet?09:08
Contrast012083Yettenet, System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager.09:09
Jucatoyettenet: System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager09:09
Contrast012083Start with an empty session.09:09
Jucatosnap09:09
yettenetAhm...09:09
yettenetThanks :P09:09
Contrast012083Yup.09:09
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Contrast012083Does anyone know if there's a way to configure how GTK apps look in KDE, aside from the settings in KControl?09:10
piro_wow nice bot rofl09:11
Contrast012083Or, if one had both Gnome and KDE installed, would the changes you make to the appearance of GTK apps in Gnome also apply to when you run them in KDE?09:11
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Kite_DHhow to install a icon theme?09:14
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Contrast012083Kite_DH, System Settings -> Appearance, Icons.09:15
Jucato!changethemes | Kite_DH09:16
ubotuKite_DH: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu09:16
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Kite_DHhmm, i downloaded this theme, it contained folders with .png files, and a index.desktop file, where is the file i have to put into system settings> appearance > icons09:17
Kite_DH???09:17
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Eltranheya09:18
Kite_DHhi^^09:18
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Contrast012083Kite, the original .tar.gz file is the one you want to use09:18
Eltranhow can I force the wireless lan to connect when I start my comptuer ?09:18
JucatoKite_DH: you don't need to extract the theme. use the .tar.gz. the instructions are on that page09:19
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Eltranit doesn't connect automatically to teh netw0rk09:19
Kite_DHJucato: thank you very much09:19
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underdog5004lol, still nothing happening in here?09:30
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zariswhat is the name of that site that shows me all the files in ubuntu and their package??09:31
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underdog5004google is your friend09:31
olegI need help with ubuntu's automount system. Usually multiple users are logged into the computer through kde. When an active user inserts media into the computer, other user gets media access rights instead. Did anyone have same problem?09:32
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zarisunderdog5004: hey09:32
Jucatozaris: http://packages.ubuntu.com09:32
zarisunderdog5004: i am coming from google09:32
underdog5004ah09:32
Jucatothat one?09:32
zarisunderdog5004: i think the answer is shorter than your advice09:32
zarisunderdog5004: :)09:32
underdog5004rofl09:32
zarisJucato: thanks09:32
underdog5004sorry, I didn't know the site...09:32
zarisunderdog5004: ok09:32
zaris:)09:32
underdog5004Jucato, will beryl run well on i810 Integrated Graphics?09:33
Jucatounderdog5004: I honestly don't know09:33
Jucatounderdog5004: Google is your friend :D09:33
underdog5004oh, that was a good one!09:33
underdog5004lol09:33
chavounderdog5004, it works alright on mine09:33
Jucato!beryl | underdog500409:33
ubotuunderdog5004: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:33
chavobut I only have 384M ram09:33
Jucatothat site may be more useful09:34
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underdog5004meh...I'll just wait for my graphics card to get here...then I can set up my new (to me) computer...09:34
chavoyeah it's definitely much slower, but it does work09:35
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Obsidian*sigh*09:43
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MasterDashThere.09:43
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vegasmcpchey, i have a raid array started and running, i just need to know what filesystem to make it and i need to know how to mount it09:45
vegasmcpcanybody able to help?09:45
MasterDashOkay folks.  Have a bit of a question regarding video capture over USB (2.0 of course)  Getting to be a pain in my ..erm..neck.09:46
MasterDashHeh..or not.  maybe the bad time of day for this.09:47
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karenhi, I have user homes on second drive mounted with ntfs-3g I can read and write to disk, but user homes are owned by root. I tried chown and chgrp to make homes owned by user:user, but it does not work. Any ideas?09:52
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tucoGood morning people. Anybody know how to install icon themes? Read the explanation on kde site but can't seem to do it.09:56
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firecrotchkaren: NTFS format partitions don't have file and folder permissions like Ext2/3, they'll always be owned by the user that mounted the drive, usually root09:56
firecrotchkaren: why do you even have /home on an NTFS partition?09:59
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Contrast012083tuco, System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons -> Install New Theme...10:00
karenfirecrotch: its part of mirgrating from win2k 2 linux, the users hard drive was already NTFS10:00
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fanscore!fr10:00
Contrast012083Then just browse to the archive file that you downloaded.10:00
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:00
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karenfirecrotch: this means that /home/* is all root:root, which creates a real problem with crossover office10:01
Contrast012083Alternatively, you can browse through the packages starting with "kde-icons" in Adept and install the ones you want there.10:01
firecrotchkaren: unfortunately, the only way for it to not be root:root is to convert the partition to ext2 or ext310:02
tucoI did that Contrast. I have downloaded the tar .gz file, extracted it, and went into Appearance/Icons/ and install but it doesnt work10:03
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karenfirecrotch: then win2k will not be able to read the partition. Is that right?10:03
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Contrast012083Where'd you download it from?10:03
tucocan't find this: /usr/share/icons/10:04
firecrotchkaren: that's correct, though there may be some program that will still let you read it from windows10:04
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tucokde look10:05
Contrast012083tuco, you mean that folder doesn't exist on your system?10:05
karenfirecrotch: any suggestions for tools to convert ntfs to ext310:05
tucoI don't know how to get to it :-(?10:05
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Contrast012083you have to be root to make any changes to it. you should be able to read it fine though.10:06
Contrast012083what happens when you type that in the address bar in Konqueror?10:06
firecrotchkaren: you might want to look into explore2fs, which will let you use ext partitions from windows http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs10:06
tucoAaaaaah got it10:07
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Contrast012083I don't think that's really going to help your situation though.10:07
Contrast012083What's it say when you try to install the icon theme in System Settings?10:08
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firecrotchkaren: you'll have to back up the data, and then use your favorite partitioning program, be it Qtparted or Partition Magic, or plain old parted10:09
karenfirecrotch: thx10:09
firecrotchkaren: you're welcome10:09
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cntbon dapper here why my firefox-bin FF2 is in /opt/firefox ?10:10
tucothe file is not a valid icon them archive10:10
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mefisto__is ntfs-3g something we can now trust to not corrupt data?10:12
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cntbhas anyone compiled and installed mplayerplug-in from sourceforge.net ?10:14
redhaHi, Just installed Kubuntu on a Toshiba laptop, apparently wireless is not working...how can I make sure??10:15
vgeredha: does it see in the kcontrol menu?10:16
vgeunder networking10:16
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Contrast012083cntb, there's a .deb package for that.10:17
redhathere is eth0 and eth110:17
firecrotchmefisto__: It's still not 100% there yet.  Maybe 98% at most.10:17
vgeand eth1 has the "wireless icon"?10:17
redhanope nothing indicative of a wireless connection10:18
mefisto__thanks firecrotch. I'll wait before I try it10:18
vgecheck lspci to see that it's visible to the system10:18
redhathey are exactly the same except eth0 has an IP which is the connection I have now10:18
vgethen !wireless10:18
vge!wireless10:18
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:18
firecrotchmefisto__: I personally don't use it because I don't trust it yet.10:19
mefisto__firecrotch: neither do I10:19
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redhaGuess this is the line of interest: "02:0a.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI                                                                                                    Adapter (rev 04)"10:20
redhaso its detected right?10:20
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vgewell, atleast it's not broadcom, gz :)10:20
firecrotchmefisto__: apparently they're claiming that it's 100% safe now10:20
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vgeredha: if you try google on that name, i think you can find a solution kinda fast10:21
redhalol, didn't understand the joke, but guess its not a crucial point to understand ;)10:21
cntb!compile10:21
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:21
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redhaok great ill do that vge (using cables), the system is updating now so I don't really wanna tweak around10:21
mefisto__firecrotch: yes I was just reading the website, but they would say that, wouldn't they?10:22
cntbis mplayerplug-in in pre-built packages?10:22
cntb!packages10:22
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!10:22
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mefisto__cntb: are you talking about the mplayer firefox plugin?10:23
Jucatocntb: what do you mean?10:23
firecrotchmefisto__: They've always been honest about how safe it is (as are 99.99% of developers in the Linux community)10:23
dettoaltrimenti_I just downloaded the package abs-guide from adept, which should just be a text file. Where did it save to?10:23
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: try looking around /usr/share/doc10:23
mefisto__firecrotch: I don't mean they are being deliberately dishonest, just overconfident perhaps10:26
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firecrotchmefisto__: judging by their testing, I would be confident too10:27
mefisto__firecrotch: so why aren't you using it?10:28
firecrotchmefisto__: I just noticed that they've put out the Release Candidate.10:28
firecrotchBut I also have no need to use it, really.  The only thing I use Windows for at all is programming in VB.NET for one of my classes10:29
mefisto__firecrotch: I have another fat32 disk that I can use with windows and kubuntu, so I don't really need it. I'll wait a few months before trying it out10:31
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mefisto__cntb: are you after the mplayer firefox plugin?10:32
frojndwhat's the name of package that installes opera10:32
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firecrotchmefisto__: That works too :)  I used to have a fat32 partition10:33
frojnd???10:33
frojndI wanna test opera..10:33
frojndso..10:33
frojnd:=10:33
firecrotch!opera10:33
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser10:33
frojndah ;)10:33
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firecrotchfrojnd: if you already have the commercial repo in your sources.list, I believe the package is called opera9, so you can just do sudo apt-get install opera910:34
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firecrotchfrojnd: sorry, the package is just called "opera"10:35
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aileanI was thinking of getting a Mac and dual-booting with Kubuntu.  Has anyone done this? And if so, what hardware incompatibilities have you had (if any)?10:35
cntbcan I find here http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/ the mplayerplug-in ?10:35
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walec51helo10:36
aileancntb, are you running dapper?10:36
cntbailean better get an intel machine not PPC10:36
cntbyes ailean10:36
aileancntb, yeah, of course10:36
frojndfirecrotch: looks like I don't have commercial repo..10:36
Jucatocntb: you mean the mplayer plugin for firefox?10:36
cntbyes Jucato10:36
Jucato!info mozilla-mplayer dapper10:37
ubotumozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB10:37
walec51I have a problem with setting a static IP on kubuntu, could someone plz help me?10:37
Jucatocntb: ^^^^10:37
mefisto__cntb: it's mozilla-mplayer, in multiverse10:37
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cntbI got spoiled intalling thing with apt-get jucato10:37
Jucatocntb: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer10:38
Jucatocntb: but make sure you have multiverse10:38
cntbmefisto__: Jucato tyvm  will get mozilla-mplayer10:38
firecrotchfrojnd: You just need to add "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main" to your sources.list file10:38
frojndtnx :)10:38
cntbbut how do I instruct them to go to right folder10:38
frojndeasy way the fastest way10:38
Jucatofirecrotch: edgy-commercial is empty10:38
Jucatocntb: it will install in the correct folders don't worry10:38
cntbits a dapper and I got FF2 in /opt/firefox Jucato mefisto__10:38
Jucatooh?10:39
firecrotchJucato: then where did I get the package from?10:39
cntbJucato:  ok10:39
Jucatohm.. not really sure on that one10:39
Jucatofirecrotch: dapper-commercial?10:39
firecrotchJucato: Nope, I don't have dapper-commercial in my sources.list10:39
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cntbmy test for it is this http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?arcane01.wav=arcane link10:39
Jucatofirecrotch: ok let me check. maybe it change since I last checked10:39
walec51I set 192.168.1.7 in system settings->network and when I reboot a get 169.254.211178, could someone tell me what could be wrong?10:40
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cntbjucato that is what I  wnated to solve in the first place10:40
Jucatofirecrotch: hey cool they finally put it in! lol10:40
DeMolaywalec51: no need to reboot when you change ip address10:40
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walec51I know10:41
Jucatofirecrotch: sorry bout that. but if you noticed, it was only put in Jan 24, 200710:41
walec51it works when I set it10:41
cntbso mefisto__  Jucato mozilla-mplayer ?10:41
firecrotchJucato: how can I check what packages are in what repo easily?10:41
walec51but when I reboot it changes when it shudent :)10:41
Jucatocntb: yes.10:41
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cntb no no mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version.10:42
Jucatofirecrotch: no easy way, I went to the site manually. you can check, however, which repo a package is in. apt-cache policy <package>10:42
cntbI have tried since b4 yesterday10:42
mefisto__cntb: you mean you already have it installed?10:42
cntbhow do I track where it is installed and move it to right place10:42
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cntbscenario is this  mefisto__ still dapper here using FF210:43
DeMolaywalec51: maybe you should type ip settings directly in /etc/network/interfaces to be sure10:43
firecrotchJucato: I may just have to write a script to find that out for me :)10:43
mefisto__cntb: ahh, FF2. I see10:43
cntbI see in /usr/bin an firefox ln to /opt/firefox10:43
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walec51well /etc/network/interfaces is a funy thing, I have 192.168.1.9 set there10:44
DeMolayXD10:44
mefisto__cntb: so mozilla-mplayer is installed but not working in FF2 (on dapper)?10:44
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cntband mefisto__ plugins in /opt/firefox/plugins point back to  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox10:45
cntbsee mefisto__10:45
walec51when I reboot a have 192.168.1.9 in /etc/network/interfaces and 169.* in system-settings :)10:45
DeMolaywalec51: if you type /sbin/ifconfig in console?10:45
walec51169.254.211.17810:46
cntbso can I instruct different folderin sudo apt-get install and which is the right in this case for mozilla-mplayer mefisto__ ?10:46
walec51but my PC responces to bouth ...10:46
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DeMolayhow many net if's do you have in this machine?10:46
cntb<mefisto__> cntb: so mozilla-mplayer is installed but not working in FF2 (on dapper)? <<< exactly right tyvm10:46
walec51the problem is that samba isnt working until I set 192.168.1.* in system-settings10:47
walec51eth0 and lo10:47
cntbmyabe as a first step I remove mozila-mplayer to re-instal in the right place ? mefisto__ ?10:49
cntb*maybe10:49
mefisto__do you know where the mplayer files are now?10:49
jukahow do i turn on "auto complete" option in konqueror??10:49
cntbmefisto__:  how do I track that10:49
walec51this IP problem of mine is realy strange, when I had DHCP every thing worked fine10:50
mefisto__cntb: they are probably in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins10:50
cntbchecking10:50
cntbls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins mefisto__10:50
cntbmefisto__:  exactly10:51
mefisto__cntb: so what you need to do is create links to those mplayer files in the FF2 /plugins directory. Or copy them to the FF2 /plugins directory10:52
cntbmefisto__:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6692/10:52
cntbah you are so fast ;-)10:52
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cntbok links sounds a good idea10:53
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cntbcan you hear http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?arcane01.wav=arcane mefisto__ ?10:54
cntbyou most prolly on edgy FF2  mefisto__ , right ?10:55
mefisto__cntb: yes to both questions10:55
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cntbI need a link to each and every mplayer plugin there right ? mefisto__ and when will they appear in about:plugins ? is firefox restart taking care o putiing in about:plugins  ?10:56
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cntbso now I go to /opt/firefox/plugins ? to make links to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ? mefisto__ ?10:57
mefisto__cntb: correct10:57
cntbOK bbl 5 min10:57
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usamahello everyone!11:00
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usamahashimican we use xmms's .eqf file with mplayer?11:01
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cntbmefisto__:  symbolic  links  solved it . worked. also about:plugins shows it11:12
cntbty  mefisto__ Jucato as well11:12
mefisto__cntb: good work!11:13
Jucatonice11:13
pointfivezeroDunedin11:14
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cntbSo I think this deserves a page in help.ubuntu/community/ mefisto__ Jucato.  so how to remember solution ? IOW howto track mplayer 'sfolder one way is locate mplayer11:16
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usamahashimican we use xmms's .eqf file with mplayer?11:17
cntbdo you know of such page there in help.ubuntu.com/community I mean ? one to be pointed by factoid maybe11:17
cntb!mplaye11:17
cntb!mplayer11:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mplaye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:18
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile11:18
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.11:18
shanhow can i access my drive?11:18
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cntbshan try to be specific11:19
Jucatocntb: I believe the wiki already has an instruction regarding installing Firefox from the firefox website11:19
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shani cant access my hard drive from linux11:19
cntbwow jucato surprise11:20
cntbMplayerInstallHowto11:20
cntbThis page does not exist yet.11:20
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cntbjucato maybe I write it and some of you check it pls?>11:20
Jucatocntb: that mplayer howto isn't about mplayer and firefox 211:21
Jucato!firefox11:21
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins11:21
cntbmefisto__:  Jucato MplayerInstallHowto This page does not exist yet . maybe this will be the right place for the plugin howto ?11:22
Jucatocntb: look at those 2 links above11:22
fadeyhi, everyone. I'm getting duplicates when pinging my provider. Has anyone seen smthn like this befor?11:22
fadey2 packets transmitted, 2 received, +701 duplicates, 0% packet loss, time 1068ms11:22
Jucatocntb: there are already wiki pages for what you want  to write, I guess11:22
cntbI know Jucato https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto has to be about player itself rather than mozilla plugins11:23
cntb<Jucato> cntb: I believe the wiki already has an instruction regarding installing Firefox from the firefox website <<< let us find it pls11:23
Jucatocntb: I already gave the links. look above11:24
cntbi am not that ambitious to write but if I need it badly for multiple installations then yes why not write a wiki11:24
Jucato!firefox | cntb11:25
ubotucntb: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins11:25
Jucatocntb: check those pages. if the instructions seem to lack some things, try adding11:26
cntbok jucato in troubleshooting section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins , ther is no mentioning of symbolic links fix . that is the missing part of chaim11:27
cntb*chain11:27
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Jucatocntb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion#head-a18df3338b868ce5f14336fd2ee58ce6b5d574b211:28
Jucatocntb: the instructions for Manual Install mentions it11:28
cntbyoun know when in a hurry ppl foolow instructions yet dont think about some missing part like wrong path11:28
cntb[12:28]  <Jucato> cntb: the instructions for Manual Install mentions it <<< ah good ! ok11:29
Jucato!mplayer11:29
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile11:29
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs11:29
Jucatook fixed that11:29
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cntbfixed what jucato ? so quickly ? tyvm11:30
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Jucatocntb: the bot pointing to a page that doesn't exist11:30
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cntbah the bot factoid ? I understand11:31
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cntb so MplayerInstallHowto  is covered mostly by the first link you say jucato ?11:33
Jucatocntb: the mlayerinstallhowto page doesn't exist anymore. it must have been deleted already because those other 2 mplayer pages cover it11:34
cntbgood11:34
cntbgtg very helpful see you around11:34
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waylandbillmorning all. unless it's not morning there ;-)11:37
vge12.38, not really :)11:38
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waylandbillvge: just missed. :-)11:38
Kite_DH!customization11:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about customization - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:42
Kite_DH!customize11:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about customize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:42
Kite_DH!themes11:42
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy11:42
Kite_DH!changethemes11:42
ubotu[Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu11:42
Kite_DH!thx11:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:42
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JucatoKite_DH: I suggest you add that changethemes page to your bookmarks...11:42
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waylandbillubotu doesn't know anything about thanks eh? ;-)11:49
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pointfivezero!manners11:50
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines11:50
pointfivezeroha11:50
JucatoO.o11:50
waylandbill:)11:51
Kite_DHJucato: ..yes :) thx for the tip, but hey...i dont get how to install themes anyway11:51
JucatoKite_DH: what particular kind of "theme"?11:51
pointfivezero!tipping11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tipping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
pointfivezero!making love11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about making love - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
Kite_DHJucato: this one---> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3900711:51
Jucato!botabuse | pointfivezero11:51
ubotupointfivezero: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...11:51
JucatoKite_DH: ok let me check11:51
pointfivezerohahaha... gotcha11:51
Kite_DHJucato: when i download it i get a folder with 3 folders in it...what to do with them?? :(11:52
JucatoKite_DH: it's a deKorator theme. check in the "Window Decorations" section of the CustomizeKubuntu wiki page11:52
vge!botsnack11:53
ubotuYum!11:53
Kite_DHJucato: i did that..but... :(11:53
JucatoKite_DH: you don't have to extact the contents of the .tar.gz11:53
JucatoKite_DH: do you have dekorator installed?11:53
Kite_DHJucato: yes11:53
Kite_DHok wait11:53
Kite_DHiLL test11:53
Kite_DHJucato: it says i need a krsc file11:54
Jucatohuh?11:55
Jucato!dekorator | Kite_DH11:55
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ubotukite_dh: dekorator: KDE theme manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2fix1-1 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 296 kB11:55
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Jucatodo you have that installed?11:55
paulohello all!11:55
Kite_DHJucato: yes i do11:56
JucatoKite_DH: once you have dekorator installed, go to System Settings -> Appearance -> Window Decorations, and choose deKorator from the list11:56
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Rob-Westhow hard is it to dual boot Kubuntu and windows11:57
waylandbillRob-West: pretty simple.11:57
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Rob-Westwell i have a 70 gig partition i made and11:57
Rob-Westits still empty11:57
Rob-Westso i was gonna try a dual boot11:57
Jucato!dual-boot11:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual-boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:58
waylandbillRob-West: install windows first.11:58
Jucato!dualboot11:58
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)11:58
pointfivezero!grub11:58
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:58
Rob-Westim in windows11:58
Jucato!dual-boot is <alias> dualboot11:58
ubotuI'll remember that, Jucato11:58
Rob-Westthis is a week old install11:58
waylandbillRob-West: then install kubuntu. ;-)11:58
Rob-Westwhere do i put grub11:58
Kite_DHJucato: ok, and then?11:59
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JucatoKite_DH: you have dekorator already selected in the Window Decorations?11:59
mart81Rob-West: grub goes in the mbr, generally11:59
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Rob-Westso the main partition11:59
waylandbillRob-West: kubuntu's installation will help you with that. Usually it will be on the boot drive's MBR in a single drive single.11:59
waylandbills/single/system/12:00
Jucato!dual-boot12:00
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)12:00
Kite_DHJucato: yes its selected now, now i can adjust somethings12:00
waylandbillJucato: gonna have to do dual_boot next? :)12:00
Rob-Westor does anyone have a computer they dont need12:01
JucatoKite_DH: ok, go to the Themes tab (still in window decorations)12:01
Jucatowaylandbill: nah :)12:01
Kite_DHok12:01
JucatoKite_DH: near the bottom, click on the Install New Theme button.12:01
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Kite_DHawsome12:01
Kite_DHthank you12:01
JucatoKite_DH: not yet over :)12:02
Kite_DHn then?12:02
JucatoKite_DH: look for the .tar.gz theme you downloaded and click ok. once it's been added to the Themes list, select it, then click on Set Theme Path's button12:02
JucatoKite_DH: then click Apply12:02
Jucatook now over12:02
mart81Rob-West: no, grub goes inside the MBR if you go the normaly road, and the mbr is NOT part of any partition.12:03
Kite_DHoh wow12:03
Kite_DH=)12:03
Kite_DHthanks!12:03
mart81*normal12:03
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Kite_DHlol12:03
Jucatoheh12:03
JucatoKite_DH: be sure to check the version of the theme you are adding12:03
astarojilov 12:03
Kite_DHyes papi ;)12:03
JucatoKite_DH: the version of dekorator we have on Edgy is 0.2. so themes for dekorator 0.3 will not work12:03
Kite_DH^^12:03
Kite_DHalright12:03
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Jazonhi guys12:04
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Jazonsince edgy, my laptop fan runs for 5 seconds every 2 seconds and the cpu temp is fine btw (50 or so)12:05
Jazonit is a celeron M12:05
Jazonany suggestions?12:06
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Dekansdoes anyone use kickoff with kubuntu 64 ?12:23
ForgeAusprobably but I don't personally...12:24
CVirusJazon: Frequency scaling that is .... Don't worry12:24
Dekansi don't find it12:24
Dekans:(12:24
ForgeAus!kickoff12:24
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233112:24
pointfivezeroi hope it doesn't look arse ugly (IMO) like kbfx12:25
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ForgeAuslol it doesn't look like kbfx to me12:25
ForgeAushttp://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233112:25
ForgeAusthe screenshot there looks yes kind of M$ windows-ish start menu but not in a kbfx way....12:26
ForgeAusseems more like an attempt at simplifying/reorganizing the k menu12:26
Dekansyes12:27
Dekansbut no download link in this page12:27
pointfivezeroi'll have to have a look into it...12:27
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waylandbillsabayonLinux uses that kicker replacement.12:28
ForgeAusI thought kicker was the panel-bar not just the kmenu12:29
pointfivezeroDekans: if you find the x86_64 link could you post it here please12:29
ForgeAusbaghira also has a kmenu replacemnt...12:29
waylandbillI meant kmenu12:29
ForgeAuspoint there may not be wone....12:29
ForgeAusgrr one12:29
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pointfivezeroforgeaus: hmm ok12:30
pointfivezeroforgeaus: i can compile kde4 stuff on here12:30
Dekanspointfivezero: of course but i don't find it ><12:31
ForgeAusI'm not saying there isn't just that ia64 is kinda new not everything has a 64 bit bersion yet...12:31
ForgeAusgrr version12:31
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Dekansi reposted on the kickoff topic in beryl forum, maybe i will have an answear this time ...12:31
pointfivezeroDekans: ok cheers12:31
pointfivezeroDekans: your AMD64?12:32
waylandbillwith beagle & kerry, the kickoff's search is pretty useful I've found.12:33
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Dekanspointfivezero: yes i use kubuntu 6412:35
user01__arafat12:35
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viviersfcan you still use a alternate cd and make it install without any desktop ?12:37
pointfivezerodoes anyone know how to get xvidcap on x86_64?12:37
viviersflike the old servers ?12:37
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yettenetHow can I add multiverse and universe to the repositories?12:38
Dekansin adept menu12:39
Dekanschoose manage repositories12:39
yettenetYup, I got there12:39
Dekansand enable the lines containing universe and multiverse12:40
yettenetThanks12:40
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andreaBuon giorno12:44
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andreaGood mornig12:45
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yettenetIs there a way to disable the one-click thingy in KDE?12:47
vgekde setting kcontrol12:47
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yettenetThanks :)12:48
waylandbillyettenet: kpersonalizer too12:48
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freemasonI'm running ubuntu linux distro and I would like to try a bsd system, can anyone help me how to install it and especially how to devide and format disc partitions12:48
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yettenet Hm12:48
yettenetI think only one question left12:49
yettenetmoment, I'll pastebin it12:49
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waylandbillfreemason: qtparted or gparted will help with making room for it.12:50
yettenethttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6698/ <--- what could make this appear?12:51
freemasonwaylandbill: thanks a lot12:51
vgeyettenet: can't help you on that one, have you tried system setting as a temp solution?12:52
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waylandbillyettenet: those are usually because of the wacom devices in xorg.conf12:53
yettenetThanks, bill12:53
waylandbillI commented out in mine and those warnings went away12:53
yettenetvge: Nah, I haven't done anything at all, it doesn't seem like it has any effect12:53
yettenetExcept for this few lines12:53
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waylandbillyettenet: it has an effect in some instances. Like. I've had smb4k butcher my sudoers file because of those warnings.12:54
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yettenetHm12:55
yettenetAnd how could I fix it?12:55
yettenetAny idea?12:55
waylandbillI've looked for the devices in the xorg.conf using the wacom driver and commented them out.12:55
yettenetok12:55
yettenetI'll try12:55
waylandbillI commented out the devices themselves and in the ServerLayout where they are listed as well.12:56
waylandbillnormally, they don't hurt anything, but I just didn't want them there and figured it won't hurt since my system doesn't have those devices anyway.12:57
yettenet:P12:57
yettenetThanks12:57
yettenetBy the way... does the console language depend on my location?12:58
yettenetYou know... I'm located in Hungary but set the language to English12:58
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waylandbillyou mean for which one is detected?12:58
yettenetBut some applications still use Hungarian as a language12:58
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Dekanssvn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/work/suse_kickoff_qstyle01:01
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sliptteeshi all01:03
sliptteesi have this problem01:03
sliptteesrene@kubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade01:03
sliptteessudo: unable to lookup kubuntu via gethostbyname()01:03
slipttees:S01:03
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sliptteessomebody?01:05
yettenetrestart01:06
yettenet:P01:06
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yettenetwaylandbill: It works, thanks :P01:12
waylandbillI knew it all along. :-)01:13
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eyedol59i am trying to reconfigure my kernel but i when i type  make xconfig, i get a message that tells me that i do not have the QT library. I have already install the libqt4-lib poackage and all it dependencies. What i am missing?01:22
Jucatoeyedol59: try libqt3-mt-dev01:23
eyedol59ok....i will try01:24
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eyedol59<Juacato> thanks man it worked !!!01:26
Jucatono problem01:27
MuJthere's xconfig! O_o01:27
MuJand here I've been doing menuconfig always :(01:27
Jucato:P01:27
MuJwell.. learned something today.. now I can turn my brain off :D01:28
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waylandbill:)01:29
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malikis there any utility to turn off the computer automatically on a schedule?01:32
waylandbillcron01:32
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Jucatokcron <-- KDE frontend01:33
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=== waylandbill didn't know konqeror supported locate:
Jucatowaylandbill: it also supports man:/ and apt:/01:37
waylandbillI knew those01:37
Jucatosettings:/ system:/ help:/ (hard to use), etc :)01:38
waylandbilltoo many to list. :-)01:38
Jucatoftp:/ sftp:/ http:/ https:/ file:/ media:/ trash:/ remote:/ tar:/ and some other installed by some apps like svn:/ obex:/ etc :)01:39
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waylandbillI normally use beagle, but I installed kickoff and typed in the search bar and it showed an entry to use locate:01:40
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gnyffelI'm trying to create a KDE panel shortcut that'll start up konsole and echo a message when pressed - only konsole quits when the command has been run. How do I keep it open?01:48
Jucatowhat's the command?01:50
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waylandbillgnyffel: if you make a shortcut to it with "Link to Application" then one of the advanced options is to "Run in Terminal" and "Don't close terminal on completion"01:51
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waylandbillisn't there an x dialog program that makes a dialog out of stuff that normally appears in a console?01:52
Jucatoyeah. forgot the name. I think it's zenity... but that's GTK based01:53
gnyffelwaylandbill: well, only kind of shortcut I'm seeing (right clicking and selecting add application to panel) is either to a .desktop file or 'non-KDE application', in which I only see the option run in terminal window - not the don't close one01:54
gnyffelwaylandbill: but then I'm new to KDE. There might be something I'm missing.01:54
waylandbillright click the desktop and make a desktop shortcut and then tell move it to the panel in a second step.01:54
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ForgeAusJucato is it true Dolphin is slated to be the KDE4 file manager?01:55
gnyffelAh, I see it now01:55
JucatoForgeAus: might be. doesn't mean Konqueror's going though01:55
Jucatoit just might be the default app that gets run for file management01:56
ForgeAusI don't understand that one.... why not strengthen and base around Konqueror?... isn't Dolphin too much like Thunar/Nautilus?01:56
waylandbillJucato: it's xdialog that I was thinking of and yes... it's gtk based.01:56
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JucatoForgeAus: have you actually used Dolphin?01:56
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JucatoForgeAus: there are many reasons, almost all of them technical01:56
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ForgeAusok and yes01:57
ForgeAusI have used it01:57
JucatoForgeAus: do take note however, that most of the stuff that's being done on Dolphin will eventually make its way to Konqueror01:57
JucatoForgeAus: what version have you used? it is definitely superior to Nautilus, yet simpler than Konqi01:57
ForgeAusso dolphin kinda becomes a kpart of konqueror?01:57
Jucatono01:57
ForgeAus0.6.0 its different than I remember01:58
ForgeAusand yeah it is very simple01:58
JucatoDolphin is an app of its own. It uses the same KPart technology that Konqueror uses, but adds its own unique improvements, specially usability improvements01:58
LjLaaaaaah dolphin a kpart01:58
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LjLnoooo01:58
Jucatocurrent Dolphin version is 0.8.201:59
Jucatoit's worth compiling if you're really curious as to its strengths. granted there are a few things I still don't like about it01:59
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LjLwhat is the stuff that is in dolphin and is *not* in konqueror?01:59
Jucatobut it's not as sucky as most people presume it is...01:59
LjLi've only used the packaged version01:59
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LjLi don't presume. besides, file managers shouldn't be a huge (if very powerful) mess, in my opinion - at least not the *standard* desktop file browser. then if you want power, you fire up midnight commander or whatever suits your tastes02:00
Jucatobreadcrumb views. the convenient split/unsplit view button, status bar showing the used/free space02:00
JucatoLjL: any particular reason you thought I was referring to you?02:00
Jucatooh, and separate breadcrumbs/location field per view02:01
ForgeAusmaybe because I was in XFCE4 when I was running it?02:01
LjLJucato: no... but come on, this channel's discussions are 100% offtopic 80% of the time, may i not go on rants? >:02:01
JucatoLjL: oh sure. just don't go on kicking us :P02:01
Jucatostill missing (hope they get implemented): tabs and tree view sidebar02:02
LjLso it becomes exactly like konqueror? :P02:02
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JucatoLjL: nope. you can't do http:02:02
ForgeAusgood point02:02
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apokryphosI don't think tabs will be implemented02:02
apokryphosthey're trying to encourage split view02:03
Jucatoapokryphos: I think they will, last I asked02:03
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ForgeAuskinda counters with Thunar, Thunder and Water... hmmm...02:03
LjLJucato: well, you can but it ends up in konqueror, isn't that the point?02:03
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jottJucato: can dolphin 0.8.2 finally be controlled by keyboard? the v0.6 was a real pain ...02:03
Jucatothe point is Dolphin has a cleaner base code to begin with. so they can safely and comfortably build on top of that02:03
apokryphosright, but also dolphin will never be like Konqueror. Very different aims.02:04
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Jucatoeventually, those features will make their way into KOnqueror, that is, if Konqueror's own code base doesn't get a cleanup first02:04
JucatoDolphin is a file manager. period. Konqueror is a whole lot more02:04
gnyffelOh ffs. My shortcut starts konsole, echos hello, but then it becomes inactive. I've kept it open with the -noclose switch, but I don't need it to just remain open - I want to be able to enter commands there as well02:04
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Jucatognyffel: how about echoing Hello from one of the bash config files instead? so that everytime you open up a bash session, you'll see that hello?02:05
LjLJucato: in my view, konqueror should be a *file viewer*. not just a web browser, of course, since that makes no sense, it's fine that it shows PDFs and whatever kpart you throw at it... just not a directory view. a directory view is not a "document", and forcing it to fit it into that paradigm is a mistake02:06
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LjLa directory is a collection of file - it's useless to pretend it's a file itself (though, well, from the FS point of view, it sort of is)02:06
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JucatoLjL: a directory is technically a file, and fits in with the "file viewer" paradigm02:06
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gnyffelJucato: well, that's certainly a possibility (mind you, I've no idea as to the technical minutiae of what you're suggesting, but I get the point, what it does), but ideally, I don't want the echo in every konsole I start - just ones by this shortcut02:07
Jucatognyffel: what's the exact command you are using for the shorcut? try putting & after the "echo hello" command02:07
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gnyffel'/usr/bin/konsole' -e echo hello & - still quits02:08
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Jucato-e 'echo hello &' ?02:09
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LjLJucato: well, i beg to differ. i don't see you giving many more arguments for that than i did against. that is, none in either case. but a directory *contains* files. it's a set. no other file contains files. that's a difference, and a big enough one in my opinion.02:09
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Jucatodoesn't work... :(02:09
bumzoNEED HELP IN INSTALLING ''limewirelinux.rpm02:10
bumzoSOMEBODY PLEASE02:10
bumzothe file is on my desktop02:10
Jucato!caps | bumzo02:10
ubotubumzo: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.02:10
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bumzooops ... sory02:10
JucatoLjL: love to continue discussing/debating with you, but duty calls :)02:10
gnyffelI can't, I'm hard of hearing ;_;02:10
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jottgnyffel: you could write a script that has the "echo" in it and at the end you could call bash..02:11
bumzocan anyone help please02:11
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bumzoam sooooo green02:11
Jucato!limewire02:11
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.02:11
bumzoam running kubuntu02:11
Jucato!frostwire02:12
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire02:12
bumzohow do i install java02:12
Jucatobumzo: try following what the bot gave, and read the links02:12
Jucato!java02:12
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:12
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Anonimek!sex02:12
Anonimek:P02:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:12
bumzolol02:12
bumzowhat the fuck is Multiverse repository02:13
bumzo?02:13
bumzopleae ... use english02:13
bumzoam a rookie02:13
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gnyffelA repository that you might need to enable in your /etc/apt/sources.lst to download certain files.02:13
LjL!language02:13
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:13
BluesKajHowdy All :)02:13
LjLmultiverse is a community-mantained repository of non-free packages (or packages with non-free dependencies)02:14
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bumzook ... what is Multiverse repository02:14
LjL!repos02:14
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:14
jotti wonder what's the longest chain of references on ubotu is.. like !limewire -> !java ->  !multiverse -> !easysource .... :)02:14
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jay_what's wrong with this line... tryin to print the length of each string02:15
jay_for i in $(ls  dbinterfaces | grep "\.java$"); do echo ${i:(0):(10)}; done;02:15
jay_for i in $(ls  dbinterfaces | grep "\.java$"); do echo ${len($i)}; done;02:15
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bumzoneed help please02:17
bumzoobutu ... u have many inks ,.... i just need small assistance02:18
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bumzosomebody pleeeeese02:19
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LjLbumzo: perhaps explain what the matter is02:19
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MidMark!please02:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about please - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:19
dettoaltrimenti_is there a utility on the livecd that will check for errors on a harddrive that isn't formatted as ext2?02:19
bumzoi have a file ''limewirelinux.rpm'' on my desktop02:20
bumzoso how do i go abt installing it02:20
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LjLdettoaltrimenti_: no. besides, raw HD "errors" aren't an easy thing to define. HDs have CRCs, but they correct based on that in the hardware02:20
LjLdettoaltrimenti_: you can use smartmontools, however, to check the HD sensors02:20
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dettoaltrimenti_ljl- when I try to install kubuntu, it gets stuck while copying files to the HD, always at 69%- what could that be/02:21
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MidMarkbumzo: rpm -Uvh <file.rpm>02:22
LjLdettoaltrimenti_: have you checked the *CD* (not the HD) for defects, for starters?02:22
bumzomidmarrk ... i type that in the terminal??02:22
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LjL!rpm02:22
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)02:22
LjL!limewire02:22
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.02:22
dettoaltrimenti_ljl I'll dpo that now02:22
LjLdettoaltrimenti_: it's an option in the CD boot menu02:22
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MidMarkbumzo: sorry add "sudo" prefix or follow that instructions ^^^02:23
hazima software for ubuntu ppc to reproduction avi?02:23
bumzoso how do i change rpm to kubuntu rteadable file?02:23
LjLhazim: VLC maybe?02:23
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MidMarkhazim: all just install codecs02:23
LjLbumzo: what about "don't"? it's not a good idea, really.02:24
bumzoplease type out the whole syntax please midmark02:24
LjLif you want to, use alien.02:24
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LjLif you don't understand how alien is used, then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.02:24
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MidMarkbumzo: sudo rpm -Uvh limewirelinux.rpm02:24
bumzoi just need to install limewire .... how do i do it?02:24
hazimthx ;-)   i will find vlc now02:24
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MidMarkbut first you have to install rpm package from adept02:24
LjLhazim: no need to "find" it, it's in universe.02:25
LjL!vlc | hazim02:25
ubotuhazim: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs02:25
LjL!info vlc | hazim02:25
ubotuhazim: vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB02:25
LjLjust type "sudo apt-get install vlc" with universe enabled02:25
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bumzo''sudo rpm command not found''02:25
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MidMarkbumzo: you have to install rpm package, I have said ^^^^02:25
hazim!vlc02:25
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs02:25
MidMarkbumzo: please read!02:25
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bumzohow do i do taht mark?02:26
bumzowhat is adept?02:26
LjL!adept02:26
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto02:26
MidMarksearch for it you have installed by default02:26
MidMarkor read ^02:26
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bumzook .. i have it02:27
bumzoi have right clicked on the limwrie file and told it to open with adept02:27
bumzowill that work?02:27
LjLno02:28
LjLlook why don't you just follow the instructions!02:28
LjL!limewire02:28
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.02:28
LjL!frostwire02:28
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire02:28
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bumzoshuld i install frost wire?02:29
MidMarkbumzo: the problem you are newbie (not a very problem here) but I don't read what we write and you don't follow links02:29
bumzoanyway .. adept is open .. what next?02:29
MidMark!adept02:29
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto02:29
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bumzook ... am learning. I will read anything u put here02:29
MidMarkfollow the link and read!02:29
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bumzoadept open02:29
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LjLwhat i am saying is: we have *specific* instructions as to how to install LimeWire (or FrostWire, which might be a better idea). so why are you insisting on using that RPM, when you don't even know what an RPM is and how it's used?02:30
dettoaltrimenti_ljl the cd is fine- what else can I check?02:31
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LjLdettoaltrimenti_: dunno really. i've heard about many people whose installations stopped like this, but never quit understood the culprit. you could try the usual "noapic" or "acpi=off" kernel options, or you could jump straight to trying the alternate CD instead02:32
MidMarkdettoaltrimenti_: what is the problem?02:33
bumzomidmark02:33
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bumzoi cant locate the limewirelinux.rmp file02:33
hazim!universe02:34
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:34
bumzofrom !adept02:34
BluesKajbumzo, kubuntu doesn't use 'rpm' files .02:34
waylandbillbumzo: you don't want to use the rpm file. and most of the time you don't want to use any rpm files.02:34
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bumzok .. waht files does kubuntu use then????/02:35
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MidMarkdeb file02:35
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waylandbilldebs02:35
bumzoand how do u install .deb?02:35
MidMarkbumzo: open adept, search for frostwire and install it02:35
MidMarkit's the same and free version as limewire02:36
Johny_hey, is it possible to use a dictionary witk Kmail, just like in Thunderbird?02:36
MidMarkif you cannot find it it's because you have to open universe repo then02:36
MidMark!universe02:36
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:36
MidMarkthat it!02:36
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dettoaltrimenti_midmark- when I try to install kubuntu 6.10, when it says 'copying files' around 70% every time it locks up and turns the computer off02:38
MidMarkevery time at 70%?02:38
MidMarkdettoaltrimenti_: because I had a similar problem but was a pc with a processor that was too hot, after changed the fan all works ok02:39
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dettoaltrimenti_midmark I'll give it a try, I'll put the computer outside for a second02:40
waylandbillit's also possible that around 70% is where screen blanking tries to come on.02:40
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dettoaltrimenti_ill try that too waylandbill02:41
waylandbill(if the mouse hadn't been moved after starting the file copy of course) you may try moving the mouse part way through. can't hurt.02:41
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blue|palmare there any problems with beryl/xgl/flgrx and opengl fullscreen apps?02:41
dettoaltrimenti_I still think it's an error on the HD that could be fixed with something like fsck, except the HD isn't ext202:41
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waylandbilldettoaltrimenti_: what partition type are you installing to? is the error on that partition or another?02:42
frojnd!counterstrike02:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about counterstrike - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:42
frojnd!cs02:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:43
frojnd!games02:43
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org02:43
jay_how can i use a shell script to set the proxy in konqueror?02:43
dettoaltrimenti_waylandbill I'm choosing the option to totally reformat the drive, which is now a fat32 partition02:43
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waylandbilldettoaltrimenti_: and you're trying to keep it fat32?02:44
dettoaltrimenti_no, I'm trying to install kubuntu02:44
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frojndif I do this:02:44
frojndsudo apt-get install cvs build-essential bison flex-old libasound2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev libfreetype6-dev libxrender-dev libttf2 libttf-dev libfontconfig1-dev wine02:44
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dettoaltrimenti_I was saying I need to check the disk for errors, but I can't with fsck because fsck only works with ext2 partitions02:44
frojndwill I install all those packages?02:44
dettoaltrimenti_yes frojnd02:44
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ubuntuHello.02:45
ubuntuI'm trying to ... well, first, is anyone here?02:45
waylandbilldettoaltrimenti_: the automatic partitioning should make the parition ext3 before even copying files.02:45
ubuntuCool!02:45
ubuntuOkay, um, I'm trying to save files from a Web browser, Konqueror, in Kubuntu Live CD.02:46
ubuntuHow is this possible?02:46
ubuntuThe Live CD version seems to absolutely forbid any disk access.02:46
waylandbillubuntu: on removable media or a manually mounted partition.02:46
ubuntuExcept of course from the read-only CD-ROM.02:46
jukahello02:47
jukaanyone here using KINO for capturing video?02:47
ubuntuTrying to mount a disk results in the message that one must be root, and root access appears to be disallowed.02:47
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ubuntuA nice Catch-22.02:47
waylandbillubuntu: sudo or kdesu will take care of that.02:47
jukaI'm wondering if it can capture through composite video in... it says everywhere DV but no composite...02:47
chavoubuntu use sudo to mount02:47
ubuntuHmmm ... sudo ... okay, gonna try this again, chavo and waylandbill. :)02:48
ubuntu*goes to reopen the terminal*02:48
ScarFreewillanyone know any good java opensource cross platform installers?02:49
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ScarFreewilli've been looking at izpack02:50
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Johny_!search aspell02:51
ubotuFound:02:51
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AMorozovHi!02:52
Johny_!search dictionary02:52
ubotuFound:02:52
AMorozovCould anybody describe and/or show how kubuntu handles media:/ and system:/ ioslaves ?02:53
AMorozovI'd like to know if it shows actually connected devices or just their mountpoints within /media directory ?02:53
mauroScarFreewill: what do you mean by an installer ?02:54
BluesKajlook in systemsettings/hardware02:54
maurosomething that will install java or something that will install the apps you make ?02:54
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AMorozovI see that kubuntu_76_kickermedia.diff by Simon Edwards is intended to change the behaviour significantly, and would like to estimate it without actually apply and recompile kdebase.02:56
AMorozovUnfortunately I do not have kubuntu yet, so I can't check it myself.02:56
Johny_!help02:56
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:56
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Johny_hey, how to use dictionaries with kmail?02:58
Johny_I've got all the aspell modules installed02:58
AMorozovSo if anybody could post a screenshot of new media and system, that would be appreciated.02:58
AMorozovJohny_: you should configure spell checking in the Control Center -> KDE Components.02:59
Johny_AMorozov: already done, no dict there03:00
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AMorozovJohny_: do you have both dictionaries and aspell installed ?03:01
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AMorozovIf you do, can you use spell checking within, say, Kate ?03:01
Johny_AMorozov: the dictionaries yes, do i have to install "aspell package"?03:01
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Johny_AMorozov: some kind of "main module"03:02
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Johny_AMorozov: I chekced a minute ago, it's installed03:03
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ubuntuAll righty! Finally got a file copied to a floppy diskette, using sudo in a terminal!03:03
gnyffelI seem to remember there being some kind of convenience macro for switching between sound cards03:04
ubuntuThanks, waylandbill and chavo.03:04
mipswhat do I have to add to feisty besides w32codecs & libdvdcss2 for multimedia playback ?03:04
ScarFreewillsoulrider: sorry afk...03:05
jay_what ever does "bad substitution" mean? look at this code03:05
Johny_!codecs | mip03:05
ubotumip: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:05
jay_string="this is a substring test"03:05
jay_substring=${string:10:9}03:05
soulriderok ScarFreewill03:05
jay_bad substitution error03:05
AMorozovJohny_: can you spellcheck in kate or kwrite? If so, go to kmail settings, choose a profile and select appropriate dictionary for it.03:05
jay_not from konsole, but whenI have it in a script it gives an error03:06
ScarFreewillsoulrider: i mean an app that is writen in java and its open source and it paks files and unpaks them03:06
soulriderah... uhm.. io have no idea :P03:06
mipsubotu, I followed that but why would I install gstreamer into kde ?03:06
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soulriderScarFreewill: if you know enougyh java you can make your own03:07
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ScarFreewillsoulrider: i know but it takes time03:07
ScarFreewillsoulrider: not like zip like msi insaller except it runs with java api and not .net framework03:07
AMorozovJohny_: smth like: configure kmail -> profiles -> advanced.03:07
cosmincan anyone give me a link to how to upgrade kde from 3.55 to 3.56 ?03:07
cosminin ubuntu 6.1003:07
mipsjohny_, I followed that but why would I install gstreamer into kde ?03:07
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soulriderScarFreewill: i dont know of nay program thatc an do that but theres probably one.. somewhere. But doesnt the java web start thingy do something similar ?03:08
mipsJohny_, I followed that but why would I install gstreamer into kde ? kubunut uses xine03:09
AMorozovmips: generally, you should not. You should install libxine.03:09
Johny_AMorozov: the spell-checking options are available but don't seem to work. I'll try to ckeck out Kmail anyway03:09
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ScarFreewillsoulrider: http://www.izforge.com/izpack/03:09
waylandbilljay_: what are to trying to do?03:09
AMorozovJohny_: you mean even in kwrite ?03:09
AMorozovCOuld anybody post a screenshot with system:/ folder ?03:10
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Johny_AMorozov: Now i'm not sure, It seems to work in Kmail though03:10
AMorozov... and media:/03:10
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Johny_AMorozov: Maybe the problem is that I don't know well how to use and configure "kate"03:11
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ScarFreewillsoulrider: what do you think is the best way of "transporting" java apps (like with web start, a native installer, a crossplatform java installer, zip...)03:11
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ForgeAushow do you take a screenshot of a window?03:12
AMorozovJohny_: also make sure that you have turned on Options -> Automatic spellchecking within composer window.03:12
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ScarFreewillsoulrider: i know web start will be easier since i don't have to create pkgs but its not so user friendly03:12
AMorozovForgeAus: Alt+PrntScrn03:12
Johny_AMorozov: AMorozov: I do already checked03:12
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jottjay_: remember you are doing bash operations and /bin/sh may point to dash not bash...03:13
Johny_AMorozov: thanks for help03:13
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AMorozovOk :-)03:13
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soulriderScarFreewill: interesting app03:14
AMorozovForgeAus: ... and then Control-V in a desktop or in a konqueror file view.03:14
BluesKajForgeAus, do you have Prt Scr key , use that and save as...03:14
AMorozovControl-V means 'Paste'03:14
ForgeAuswill a jpg do?03:14
ForgeAuserm sorry png I saved it as03:14
ScarFreewillsoulrider: do you know gcj?03:15
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soulridergcj ?03:15
ScarFreewillsoulrider: its the opensource java, java vm03:15
AMorozovForgeAus: there's also a small plugin published on kde-apps.org to host any selected image on imageshack :-)03:16
soulrideroh really? i have allways used hte official thing03:16
ScarFreewillsoulrider: you can create natives exe,so,dll... with it from .class.03:16
AMorozovsoulrider: it's rather incompleted AFAIK.03:16
jukai installed a video capture program through adept manager but I don't know how to start it.... anyone????03:16
ForgeAusis that a website kinda like flikr or something?03:16
jukait is not in the "start" menu03:16
ScarFreewillsoulrider: i also use sun, but i like the ideas they have for it03:17
ForgeAusAMorozov did you get a DCC request from me?03:17
AMorozovHave to go, bye.03:17
BluesKajflickr dumped my pics ...damn yahoo03:17
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ForgeAusguess not03:17
jukaanyone?03:17
jukai installed a video capture program through adept manager but I don't know how to start it.... anyone????03:17
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ScarFreewillwhile i was looking for a good java installer app i found http://www.xpde.com/index.php this suprised me alot!03:18
waylandbilljuka: what program?03:18
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jukalibmjpegtools-dev03:19
gnyffelDoes anyone know how to switch default sound card? I know there was a command to do so in gnome.03:19
waylandbilljuka: that a development library, not a program03:19
Cam0is there a way to sort k-menu entries into alphabetic order?03:19
juka:(03:19
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jukait says lots of stuff about video capture...03:19
jukaKino doesn't work with composite in, only DV... what else should I use?03:20
waylandbilljuka: you need one of the programs that use the library.03:20
BluesKajgnyffel, you blacklist one ...forgtten the eact commands tho , or you could disable it in the BIOS peripherals03:21
jukamaybe you know which one?03:21
gnyffelBluesKaj: I think I need a solution that's feasible to use on the fly. Though, I suppose the blacklisting think could be done by macro.03:21
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matthias_hi03:22
BluesKajgnyffel, not sure ..the "experts" here can help i'm sure ... waylandbill ?03:23
matthias_I have some problems with my sound card03:23
matthias_or rather the driver03:23
BluesKajwhich card matthias_?03:23
waylandbillgnyffel: blacklisting could do it.03:23
matthias_but the problem is acctually the drivers03:24
mipshow can i check if my cpu supports kvm ?03:24
matthias_so yesterday alsa worked fine03:24
BluesKajstill, gotta know which card matthias_03:24
waylandbillgnyffel: you want to hot swap the sound devices or is it okay to reboot?03:24
matthias_okay hang on03:24
gnyffelwaylandbill: hot swapping is preferred. That's what I do in windows, and what I used to do in gnome.03:25
ngatanghi where can i get Kubuntu's program?03:25
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BluesKaj!Kubuntu03:25
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE03:25
gnyffelwaylandbill: if hotswapping isn't available, I'm better off buying a switch or swapping the cables manually.03:25
matthias_C-media P03:25
matthias_C-media PCI CMI8738 (model 37)03:26
matthias_but now i have also a second sound card but then onboard03:27
jukaIS there a video capture program for kubuntu that is not Kino (it works only with DV cameras)?03:27
matthias_a NVidia CK804 With ALC65503:27
waylandbillgnyffel: in the sound system, hardware, you can try to "override device location"03:27
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gnyffelwaylandbill: and then use /dev/dsp(n)?03:27
waylandbillgnyffel: right03:27
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jottjuka: afair mencoder supports v4l capturing...03:29
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matthias_euhm03:30
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cosminhi, i have installed ubuntu 6.10 and now i installed kububtu-desktop package, and i want to uninstall gnome, any ideas ?03:30
cosminif i run apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop it says package is not installed03:31
BluesKajnot familar with those soundcards matthias_...have you tried the kubuntu forums ?03:31
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matthias_no03:31
BluesKajdo so03:31
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slyfoxHow to I make Kubuntu remember my Laptop Screen brightness settings? Everytime I login it sets the brightness back to maximum ?03:31
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jukajott: i see it's only an encoder, i need a program to capture video through my TV card, is that it?03:34
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waylandbillcosmin: I think gnome is the the package you want.03:34
waylandbillmatthias_: you now have two cards and the wrong one is being used?03:36
cosminPackage gnome is not installed, so not removed03:36
matthias_no03:36
jottjuka: its an encoder but it can encode from a v4l device.. (like a tv card when it's v4l)03:36
matthias_but now the sound wont want to come out03:36
matthias_if u know what i mean03:36
BluesKajGv4l , juka03:36
Dr_willishmm.. went to copy some files from one hd to another...  system locked up and started going 'beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee' (one long continus beep)03:37
waylandbillmatthias_: you said earlier that you had a second onboard card.03:37
Dr_willishad to hit the reset button.03:37
Dr_willisnever seen that happen befor03:37
matthias_yeah03:37
matthias_but that one doesnt want to work03:38
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waylandbillcosmin: removing a package that's not there will give you that error of course.03:38
Jucatocosmin: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde03:38
matthias_i dont know whats wrong with it but even in windows with the wright drivers it doesnt works03:38
waylandbillJucato: he wants to put gnome in03:39
Jucato<cosmin> hi, i have installed ubuntu 6.10 and now i installed kububtu-desktop package, and i want to uninstall gnome, any ideas ? <--- I was answering this03:39
waylandbillmatthias_: have you blacklisted the non-functional one?03:39
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waylandbillJucato: yes you're right. my bad.03:39
cosminthanks03:40
matthias_no03:40
matthias_how do i do that?03:41
shinobidoes anyone know how kde/kubuntu decides which icon to mount drives with on the desktop?03:41
shinobiand where to change that03:41
Jucatoshinobi: it's in the icon theme03:41
waylandbillok. you need to figure out the module that gets loaded for it. What type of card is it (lspci)03:41
shinobisure03:41
shinobibut it differentiates between various drives...by size i think03:41
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Jucatoshinobi: nope. same icon for all drives, regardless of drive capacity03:42
shinobiso it picks an icon based on some parameters i'm guessing03:42
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shinobijucato: so how come my psp shows up with an ipod icon and my walkman shows up as a regular hard drive?03:42
shinobithe psp is 1gb03:42
shinobithe walkman is 30gb03:42
Jucatoshinobi: I guess it depends on how the system sees those devices.03:43
matthias_euhm03:43
shinobiright03:43
Dr_willisi wonder if it sscans for files on the device03:43
shinobimust be defined somewhere03:43
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shinobidr willis: sounds like a explanation, but doesn't make sense03:46
shinobibecause i have mixed media on all the drives03:46
shinobiright now i have four separate usb drives plugged in03:47
waylandbillshinobi: yes. it's based on the devices and the icons you have defined in control center, appearance, icons03:47
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shinobiwayland bill: nice call, let me check it out03:47
waylandbillshinobi: ultimately, they are stored under /usr/share/icons03:48
jukaso I installed mencoder from adept, but where is it now?03:49
jukajott03:49
soulriderjuka: check your kmenu03:49
soulrideror just type mercoder in a console03:49
jottjuka: mencoder is a console app..03:49
juka:(03:49
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shinobiwayland bill: hold on, this is just the icon definitions03:50
jukahow do I capture video then?03:50
ForgeAusok how do I fix this error message: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:50
jukaI just want something simple, to see the video on my screen and just click capture...03:50
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shinobiwayland bill: i understand that the range of available icons and which icon i want to use is in the icons folders and or icon control panel03:51
shinobiwayland bill: what i mean is why are there separate icons appearing for the drives i mount03:51
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shinobiwayland bill: either they're all the same, or that is defined somewhere03:51
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waylandbillshinobi: you mean like certain one for a certain kind of device?03:52
jottjuka: ok i must admit mencoder is not that "click to capture" simple :)03:52
Dr_willis!search menucoder03:52
ubotuFound:03:52
Dr_willisbut it has power!03:52
Dr_willis!search mencoder03:52
jottjuka:  try something like ... mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l:width=352:height=288:device=/dev/video0  or any other width/height..03:53
shinobiyes03:53
jottand see if you get an picture03:53
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shinobiwayland bill: exactly03:53
griffjonI have two annoying problems - most importantly, suspend and hibernate are inconsistent at best (compiz/kde/edgy on a Dell LAt c640) and secondly, I'm having problems with turning the wireless off (iwconfig wifi0 txpower off goes through, but the Dell network led lights don't deactivate - while this I don't think means the wifi is still on, I don't want some security-paranoid airline employee hassling me on my next fli03:53
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waylandbillshinobi: I've taken one of the filenames and doing a system wide grep. If it's defined textually I'll find it. :-)03:54
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shinobiwayland bill: good idea03:54
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shinobiwayland bill: what did you search for03:55
waylandbillsmart_media_mount03:55
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shinobiwayland bill: how did you choose that?03:56
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Kite_DHhow to play VCD with VLC?03:57
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shinobiKite_DH: did you easyubuntu?03:58
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Jucato!easyubuntu03:58
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu03:58
Dr_willisvlc should be able to play them.. same as ya plaay a dvd. i think.. ive rarely used vcd's  but i think it played them . heh heh03:58
Dr_willisno vcd's handy to test03:58
Jucatokaffeine can play vcd's too03:58
shinobiKite_DH: codecs?03:58
Kite_DHyes, i played it with kaffeine, but it stopped after 2min03:58
Kite_DH:(03:58
waylandbillshinobi: because it's in /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/128x128/devices03:58
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waylandbillshinobi: nothing hit on it yet. might be defined in a library and may not be configurable.03:59
Jucatomost probably in the source code even04:00
shinobiwaylandbill:04:00
Jucatoshinobi: try #kde. they might know04:00
angasule!kmail04:00
ubotukmail: KDE Email client. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2174 kB, installed size 6724 kB04:00
shinobiwaylandbill: i see, seems odd. must be defined somewhere...04:00
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vioscarhola donde puedo encontrar ayuda para instalar el driver nvidia?04:01
vioscar#kubuntu-es04:01
waylandbillshinobi: could be in the source of a library04:01
cntbI have an issue for quite a long time , several months actually. We here use at list two languages on Desktop most of the time. We change keyboard language globally on all the system with Alt- Shift usually04:02
Jucatoshinobi: of course it would be defined somewhere. but most probably, it's hardcoded into the source04:02
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cntbOn some systems it worked and some I stiil am stuck one of them is this dapper04:02
shinobiwaylandbill: i mean should be defined in some kubuntu/kde documents, just came up blank on google04:02
cntbNow changing here only from tray04:02
shinobiwaylandbill: maybe bad search04:03
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cntbthis is my xkb command  setxkbmap -option numpad:microsoft,grp:ctrl_shift_toggle,grp:alt_shift_toggle ,but still it wont toggle04:04
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cntbwhy alt-shift wont toggle04:05
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angasulehow do I restore the kmail icon? the kubuntu wiki doesn't return any results for 'kmail' (don't tell me about kontact, it takes 15 seconds to load, vs kmail which takes 5)04:05
cntbI am sure Iam not the only one who cannot toggle04:06
shinobiangasule: restore to where?04:06
angasuleshinobi: to the kmenu04:06
Jucatocntb: you can't use plains Alt+Shift in Linux. it's always Alt+Shift+ a character04:06
Jucatoangasule: the kmail icon isn't in the K Menu by default at all. so there's nothing to restore04:07
Jucatoangasule: because kmail is usually run with kontact on Kubuntu.04:07
shinobiangasule: rightclick in the kmenu04:07
shinobiangasule: edit menu04:07
shinobiangasule: put the command as kmail04:07
shinobiangasule: define custom icon by clicking on the icon04:08
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angasuleJucato: but I don't *want* kontact, it's 3 times as slow, and takes away screen real state04:08
shinobiangasule:save04:08
angasuleshinobi: ok, I know that way, I was hoping there was another04:08
shinobiangasule: ???04:08
Jucatoangasule: follow shinobi's instructions then04:08
cntbare you sure jucato04:08
cntbone of my kubuntu installs does it04:09
Jucatocntb: afaik, yes. Alt, Ctrl, Shift, and the Win key are modifier keys normally04:09
shinobiangasule: does it get any better than that in terms of editing the menu?04:09
cntbgnome does it04:09
cntbcheck xkboptions04:09
angasuleshinobi: maybe there was an automated way, I generally prefer not to manually edit stuff if there's an automatic way04:09
Jucatowell, normally it's not that way, but you can always set it04:10
waylandbillshinobi: #kde says they are hard-coded. just as Jucato and I thought04:10
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shinobiwaylandbill: good job bro04:10
shinobi waylandbill: not sure if i'm happy about that though04:11
cntbwindows users are so used to it that I want to have this for transitioners jucato04:11
shinobiangasule: with you on that.04:11
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shinobiangasule: but using the menu editor is real gui stuff, so i find that more comfortable than command line or stuff04:12
angasuleshinobi: I grew up on the command line, I don't care if the automation is gui or cli :)04:12
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angasule"Alt+Shift changes group" wouldn't be what cntb is looking for? :?04:13
Jucatoprobably. not really sure :D04:14
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angasuleSettings->Regional & Language->Keyboard Layout->Xkb Options->Alt+Shift changes group04:15
cntbangasule: tyvm . unfortunately jucato I know where it is and have it checked long ago but it fails . does nothing04:15
cntbangasule exactly04:15
cntbangasule - native English ?04:15
psyHow to install xchat? what is the name of the package?04:16
Jucato!xchat04:16
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB04:16
Jucato!xchat-gnome04:16
cntbpsy sudo apt-get install xchat04:16
ubotuxchat-gnome: a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.13-0ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 296 kB, installed size 780 kB04:16
angasulecntb: me? no04:16
Jucatopsy: two choices: xchat or xchat-gnome. don't know the difference. it's GNOME :)04:16
psyE: Couldn't find package xchat04:17
cntbpsy wait04:17
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angasulecntb: doesn't seem to work for me either, maybe 'group' means something else, or you have to restart X04:18
angasulecntb: personally, I use skim, what languages do you need?04:18
shinobiangasule: does skim work with skype now?04:19
cntbangasule english bulgarian hebrew greek04:19
cntband in same document04:19
angasuleshinobi: I have no idea04:19
Jucatopsy: you need to enable the universe repo to install "xchat". though you can install xchat-gnome directlyh04:19
cntbangasule sounds like some bug because it did work on some of my installations04:19
angasulecntb: skim is good for that, and you can set up many shortcuts, but you have to edit some config files manually04:20
cntbbut angasule couldnot find what impedes it some times04:20
angasulecntb: no idea, maybe conflicting shortcuts somewhere else04:20
shinobiangasule: oh, okay...i tried that few months ago and it ate it. so i ended up with uim and canna (i need east asian languages). but since skim is standard in kubuntu i wanted to be able to switch back04:21
cntbmanually I could do it once but I need it for production of systems this is bad angasule04:21
cntbAlt Shift is universally known in Windowz04:21
PensacolaI recently put my /home folder on another partition but now my games are choppy when I play them :s04:21
angasulecntb: I didn't know about it :) but I'm sure it can be solved, if it has worked somewhere04:22
angasulecntb: you might try the email lists, though04:22
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angasulecntb: the chat is better for quick solutions, email and forums for the rest, I guess04:22
cntbyes angasule maybe ask packagers or whom?04:22
cntbsounds right angasule ty04:23
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angasulecntb: ask in the kubuntu email list, see what they tell you04:23
angasulenp04:23
cntbwhere is the kubuntu mail list ?04:23
shinobicntb: i think these settings are even cross conflicting in kde languages vs. the actual skim/uim/whatever settings04:23
shinobii had to be very careful to set those two in parallel04:23
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cntbshinobi so you are familiar with issue then ?04:24
angasulecntb: http://www.kubuntu.org/support.php04:24
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orangeyhey all!04:25
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shinobicntb: i had to fight with this for about a month04:25
orangeyMy kicker (3.5.6) keeps crashing since I updated yesterday (first time in several weeks):04:25
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orangeykicker: WARNING: Failed to create avahi client04:25
shinobicntb: but i'm not sure if it can solve the problem04:25
orangeythat seems to be the biggest problem..04:25
cntbk angasule got that http://www.kubuntu.org/support.php , so shinobi you know exactly what I mean.04:25
orangeykicker: WARNING: Failed to create avahi client \ QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap \ QPainter::setPen: Will be reset by begin()04:26
shinobicntb: there are i think three areas of configuration04:26
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angasuleI think that skim should be working out of the box (or disk ;) ), I don't understand why the heck it isn't04:26
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shinobiangasule: it just doesn't really...and it conflicts with stuff04:27
shinobiangasule: especially because of the conflicting options in other areas04:27
shinobiangasule: that don't talk to each other04:27
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angasulewell, abandon 'others' and use skim :) since 'others' don't support nearly as much as skim04:28
renatohi, I am setting up a   server using ubuntu, I have it in my house with a dynamic IP. I have set up a dynamic dns with dyndns (www.dyndns.org) I have also purchased a domain name (.com) but I am not sure how to link the domain name with the dynamic account I have04:29
stdinthat's not a Kubuntu question, so you'll have to ask dyndns about that04:31
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renatoit is a dns question , indeed04:32
renato(not a dyndns), a dns question04:32
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stdinit's nothing you do on your server, unless you are running your own dns server, in which case you wouldn't need dyndns04:32
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renatostdin the point is my server does not have a fixed ip address to the outside world04:33
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stdinrenato, yeah, so you have to get dyndns to use the domain you registered04:33
Dr_willis!kdesu04:34
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:34
stdinrenato: normally (as I understand it) you get a free domain (something.dyndns.com) or whatever, you may need to pay for  a service to use your own domain04:35
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waylandbillrenato: make a foward from your domain name to your dyndns name.04:35
renatoI do have a dynamic dns name rdallarmi.podzone.org now I have  a domain I bought (eudealers.com) now I need to set up a forward from my doname into the  rdallarmi.podzone.org04:35
jay_how do u say "or" in an if statement?04:36
renatowaylandbill, THAT is the part I do not know how to do04:36
stdinjay_: elif04:36
waylandbillrenato: it depends on where you're domain is managed.04:36
waylandbillrenato: different registrars handle that different ways. You need to contact them.04:36
renatoI have the possibility to specify Cnames for it04:36
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jay_no.. as in multilpe condition04:39
jay_say if $ans = "y" OR ans = "yes"04:39
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jay_i want to say something like if ans="y" or ans="yes" then do something... something to that effect04:40
Dr_willisin bash?04:40
jay_yeah04:40
Dr_willistime to read some bash guides - i suggest the 'advanced bash scripting guide' it has details/examples of that and MUCH more.04:40
Dr_willisits not too hard.. i just cant rember off hand. :)04:40
jay_|| doesn't work, | doesn't work04:41
Dr_willissome 'or' sonstrict in the test04:41
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Dr_willisalways seems to boil down to  () and quotes :)04:41
jay_i've been searching... most tutorials, even the advanced ones cover04:42
jay_multiple clauses04:42
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jay_elif's and so on04:42
jay_but just not or's and and's within a clause04:42
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stdinjay_: check 'man test'04:42
buzwow04:43
buzkubuntu feisty seems much faster?04:43
jay_found it04:43
jay_syntax is04:43
jay_if [ cond -o cond2 ] 04:43
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jay_thanks04:44
stdinthat's what I was thinking of, but I couldn't remember :P04:44
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Dr_willisi was thinking more of a  if ( ( somthing) || (somthing ))04:44
reinishi guys04:44
Dr_willisbut what the heck do i know.. i rarly program. :)04:44
stdinheh, it's only bash, not exactly programing04:45
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Johny_is there an english or american mother-language?04:45
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Dr_willislatin :)04:46
reinishey what r u talkin about in this chat?04:46
Dr_willisJust gabbering mainly reinis04:46
reiniso04:46
Johny_just wanted to make a question...04:46
Dr_willissitting in here -- and watcing the chaos in #ubuntu04:46
reinislol04:46
reinissoo04:47
reiniswhat r u playing?04:47
reinisif u r04:47
Dr_willisrescueing my system... for some odd reason it had a hard lockup while copying a file and the pc went 'beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep'04:47
Dr_willisthats the game for today.. "Rescue the Data" :)04:47
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reinislol04:47
Dr_willisfollowed by "Backup the Data to DVD "04:48
reinisiwe herd so,eting like that04:48
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reinis*someting04:48
waylandbillDr_willis: isn't it chaos there often?04:48
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reiniswhit what program do u use wen beeeeeeep happend?04:48
Dr_williswaylandbill,  all the time.04:49
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stdin#ubuntu us always chaotic04:49
Dr_willisreinis,  wasent doingmuch of anything.. dragged a file from one hd to another to copy it.. and it locked up and yelled at me.. :)04:49
Dr_willisso i hit the reset button. booted to kubuntu to see what happened.04:49
reiniswhell havent heard of that :(04:49
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reinismy dad used terminal and the same prob:(04:50
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Dr_willisso far in #ubuntu today.. installing 'kde' has been blamed for trashing a system..  torrent slowness is ubuntus fault... and.. lets see.....04:50
reinis3 times a row04:50
BluesKajntfs-3g broken, Dr_willis?04:51
reinisreinis not available for a moment :)04:51
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  wasent using ntfs at the time. the crash happene while i was using 'sidux'04:52
Dr_willisrebooted, fsck'ed the drives... now  checking the data again04:52
BluesKajDr_willis, sidux?04:52
Dr_willisi got a torrent thats 99.98% done.. i dont wish to lose.04:52
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Dr_willissidux - a debian variant ' Sid Tweaked a lot" mainly04:53
Dr_willisnot really worth messing with - but it did have some nice 'install the nividia driver' scripts04:53
Dr_willisand the hd install from live cd worked decently well.04:53
Dr_willisbut over all. not worth the hassles.04:53
Dr_willisit is in testing however.. perhaps in a few months04:53
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marcin_join zory04:56
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Lam__what can i use to capture information from my webcam?04:57
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stdinLam__: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam04:59
Lam__stdin: thanks04:59
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cntbOOWRITER is always terribly slow05:00
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Kite_DHhow to install the printer: Lexmark X1270 ??05:05
Kite_DH!printer05:05
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows05:05
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cis_hello05:06
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ForgeAushmmm maybe I should try vesa driver! its more likely to work! rofl05:11
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ForgeAusI'm going back to standard KDE session, this broken XGL session sux05:13
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DarkTeengeekhey quick question is it possible to send text from th clipboard to a file in a bash scripts05:21
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fdoving_DarkTeengeek: you mean the klipper clipboard?05:23
fdoving_dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents05:23
DarkTeengeekyea05:23
fdoving_works.05:23
DarkTeengeekok05:24
Jucatofdoving_: how do you make it work though? in a script...05:24
fdoving_Jucato: depends what you want to do with it.05:24
Jucatook. I'll leave it at that for now :)05:25
Jucatoalmost bed time ehehe05:25
DarkTeengeeklet me explain what iwant to do05:25
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Ash-FoxPerhaps I'm doing this wrong, but I don't see what I did wrong here: 'iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d 192.168.1.2 --dport 994 -j DNAT --to 127.0.0.1:3994' doesn't show up when I do a 'iptables -L' after..05:26
DarkTeengeeki am making a script that uses festival to read whatever is in clipboard05:26
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frojndWhy, when I run game counter strike 1.6 there isn't any sound of game, just my lunux sound (amrok) ??05:27
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fdovingDarkTeengeek: then you can use 'festival-command $(eval dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents)'05:27
fdovingAsh-Fox: what do you want to do?05:28
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Ash-Foxfdoving, pretty much forward port 994 to 399405:29
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fdovingAsh-Fox: i'd use something like 'iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 994 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3994'05:30
Ash-Foxfdoving, thanks, i'll give it a try :)05:30
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Jucatofdoving: thanks! $(eval dcop foo) was what I was looking for :)05:32
tdnI would like to file a bug against the network part of the "System Settings" in Kubuntu/KDE. Where should I do this? I do not know if this is a bug in KDE in general or a bug in Kubuntu only. Please guide me.05:32
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soulrider!es05:32
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:32
Ash-Foxfdoving, hm.. Shouldn't I see the rules in 'iptables -L' ?05:32
fdovingJucato: you can use backticks too `command`.05:32
Jucatofdoving: I'm more comfortable with $() though :)05:33
Jucato!bugs > tdn05:33
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fdovingAsh-Fox: iptables -t nat -L05:34
BluesKajJucato, any idea how i can join 2 iso files into one ?05:34
Ash-Foxfdoving, ah, thanks05:34
fdovingJucato: yes, $() is cleaner. `` can be nice on the commandline.05:34
JucatoBluesKaj: sorry, no clue05:34
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cntbBluesKaj: what is an app that mounts isos05:35
cntbdaemon tools does this in windows05:35
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fdoving!iso | cntb05:36
ubotucntb: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn05:36
BluesKajI'm cheap , don't feel like burning 2 dvd's when the images are small enuff to fit on one05:36
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hattayeah just mount both of them, then use mkisofs to make a new iso05:37
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cntbso BluesKajmount both merge them and mkisofs ?05:38
cntbso BluesKaj mount both merge them and mkisofs ?05:38
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hattamount -o loop 1.iso /mnt/image/1; mount -o loop 2.iso /mnt/image/2; mkisofs -R -J /mnt/image | cdrecord -05:38
cntbwow hatta that was fast05:39
lenscape_!uswsusp05:39
ubotuuswsusp: Userspace suspend/resume to disk. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 96 kB05:39
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cntblenscape tell me more about uswsusp05:40
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lenscape_cntb: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/02/211720905:45
cntbty lenscape_05:46
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DarkTeengeeknext question how do ichange festivals voice from the script05:47
mipsAnyone know why the internet is so slow in feisty ? IPv6 is disableded & resolve.conf manually configured05:47
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DarkTeengeekfrom the default british to the amarican05:48
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tdnWhich package is the System Settings located in?05:54
frojndWhy, when I run game counter strike 1.6 there isn't any sound of game, just my lunux sound (amrok) ??05:54
HymnToLifetdn, kdebase, I guess05:55
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BluesKajhatta, I just want to merge the iso images , videos btw, not record yet05:55
tdnHymnToLife, ok. How do I find out? I am filing a bug report on it, so I would rather not file it on the wrong package.05:56
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mipsAnyone know why the internet is so slow in feisty ? IPv6 is disableded & resolve.conf manually configured06:02
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stdinmips: feisty questions in #ubuntu+1 please06:02
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renzodamn06:05
renzotoo many people06:05
renzohi, anybody?06:05
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renzoI'm a noob, so I don't understand nothing06:06
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renzoI just wanted to reciebe a 'hi' from someone06:06
renzogenjix2?06:06
waylandbillrenzo: hi06:06
renzohi wayland! :)06:07
HymnToLife!hi | renzo06:07
uboturenzo: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!06:07
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renzothanks ubotu!06:07
HymnToLife!ubotu06:07
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:07
renzowere's everybody from?06:08
renzooh a bot...06:08
waylandbillplanet earth06:08
HymnToLifesame here06:08
renzooh me too..06:08
renzoI mean, wich country!06:08
renzoI'm from argentina06:08
waylandbillusa06:08
renzolol06:08
waylandbillI hope everyone here is from planet earth anyway. :-)06:08
renzousing ubuntu is so difficult, I'm used to win..06:08
renzodows06:08
renzoI hope that too wayland...06:09
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renzoand if not, I hope that they come in PEACE06:09
renzoif not.. go away please!06:09
waylandbillIt's not difficult. Different is a better word.06:09
renzo:P06:09
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waylandbillwhen you're used to it, you'll find that it's like second nature.06:10
renzoyes06:10
renzoinfinite nature..06:10
renzowell I don't know if I'm following the thread of our conversation06:11
screechingcatanyone know how to turn of the "snap to edge" feature in KDE ? i want windows to remember their positions on the screen06:11
renzono idea screechingcat06:11
dhqhow do i install IE with wine06:11
renzowhy do won want IE if you have firefox?06:11
renzook, variety is ok06:12
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renzobut I don't know...06:12
screechingcatboth beryl and metacity can do this. wonder why the KDE WM cant.06:12
dhqR06:12
renzoyou can use konkeror too (ugly name though)06:12
dhqrenzo: well i need to run vbscripts so IE only supports it06:12
dhq:(06:12
renzovb is not so good06:13
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renzothere an open source answer, the one who uses the openoffice06:13
genjix2renzo: are your parents siblings?06:13
genjix2you are a street whore with a pizza arse06:13
waylandbillscreechingcat: control center, desktop, window behavior, moving, snap zones may help (and smart placement)06:13
renzosiblings? Ilol.. noo I don't think so06:13
dhqrenzo: i know but i am doing a degreecourse and i have to learn vbscript wether i like it or not06:13
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renzook I know I sounded rude06:14
renzosorry06:14
renzoI didn't meant to06:14
renzoI'm stupid sometimes06:14
genjix2not accepted.06:14
renzoin fact im goinf insane06:14
renzonot accepted?06:14
genjix2you are irrelevant to society.06:14
renzolol, ok06:14
renzoand you are society?06:14
dhqrenzo: i know but i am doing a degreecourse and i have to learn vbscript wether i like it or not06:14
genjix2I finger my keyboard.06:14
renzooh dhq, ok06:14
genjix2;) ;)06:14
screechingcatwaylandbill: thanks mate. it works06:14
Riddellgenjix2: don't insult people06:15
dhqrenzo: so how to i run vbscript06:15
renzoyou won't bea ble to install the 7th version cause need autenthication i guess06:15
genjix2my superiority is evident. Don't command me.06:15
renzoI don't want to comand noone!06:15
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renzoI cannot even comand me06:15
waylandbilldhq, for an active server page or something?06:15
dhqrenzo: is there any plugin for konqueror or firefox06:15
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genjix2>:D06:15
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renzoand 'superiority' who tough that word to you? your FATHER I guess06:15
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screechingcatdhq: google "IE Linux"06:16
renzomoms are good06:16
genjix2yes, my father is a master of many things.06:16
dhqscreechingcat: where can i get that06:16
genjix2your mom is the best!06:16
renzofor firefox could be06:16
waylandbillwhere can you get google?!?06:16
dhqrenzo:  i tried couldnt find it :(06:16
renzoyes I was lucky, my mum is great06:16
genjix2why you want Internet Exploiter?06:16
renzomy father sucks.. but provides me internet and sort of stupid things06:17
renzoget google: www.google.com06:17
renzoor06:17
renzowww.google.com.ar06:17
renzo;)06:17
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renzodhq, do you need it in urge?06:17
renzoI cansearch it for you06:17
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apokryphos!coc | genjix206:18
ubotugenjix2: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/06:18
genjix2Hi!06:18
dhqrenzo: yes i need so i would be really nice06:18
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renzook wait me06:18
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renzooh the bot can expulse people06:18
renzoI'm afraid it'll expulse me soon06:18
renzo:'(06:18
renzowell wait dhw06:18
genjix2I aint reading all that text.06:18
waylandbillwhat course requires vbscript just out of curiousity and why can't you use their computers to develop that on so they get the malware?06:19
renzoI'm listening to I'm the walrus06:19
renzocool song06:19
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renzodhq, what version of ie you need?06:20
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renzoI've never heard that you can programm in vbscript for ie06:20
Heavenquakecpk1:ping?06:20
renzoaDios DeMolay!06:20
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dhqrenzo: i need to run vbscript so any browser will do06:20
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renzodhq, so you can use firefox?06:21
renzothanks for writing in red06:21
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dhqrenzo: yes06:22
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waylandbillrenzo: when someone says your name, it highlights the text in red in most irc clients.06:22
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|lostbyte|dhq, hi :)06:24
dhq|lostbyte|: you bro :)06:25
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|lostbyte|dhq, why do you need ie?06:25
angelushello all06:25
renzorenzo: cool06:25
renzosorry I was on the phone06:25
dhq|lostbyte|: you know we are doing vbscript rite and it doesnt work on any browser other than ie i tried searching plugins for firefox06:26
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renzook, mm.. hello angelus06:26
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renzowell dhq, I've find a guide06:26
renzoinfelizmente (unhappyly) is hosted on a site named: nerds central06:27
dhqrenzo: ok06:27
angeluswho knows configure a dual screen with ati?06:27
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renzobut oh boy... gooble find it06:27
renzogoogle06:27
ForgeAusangelus radeontool?06:27
ForgeAusother than that06:27
ForgeAus!dualhead06:27
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama06:27
mikl_does anyone know what the hotkeys are for Konsole?06:27
waylandbilldhq: the script is on the server isn't it? you need to output standardized code if all browsers are going to handle it correctly.06:27
|lostbyte|dhq, vbscripts are ran by vb client support, is'nt it..06:27
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angelusi use beryl, so radeontool....06:27
dhq?????06:28
renzodhq, well I'nm not sure if the pages will teach you what you want but .. http://nerds-central.blogspot.com/2007/01/using-internetexporer-as-gui-for.html06:28
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renzowatch it ourseld06:28
renzoangelus redemptor06:28
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angelusthanks for link06:28
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waylandbill|lostbyte|: he hasn't specified if the vbscript was an ASP or a locally run script.06:28
|lostbyte|oh.06:29
renzothis bot ubotu is really great! answers questions..06:29
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renzoGnik Nus06:29
ForgeAusthat depends on the question06:29
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renzosun king of the beatles backwards.. and follows something... LOVE!06:29
ForgeAusits lke I always say answers are easy, its asking the right question thats the hard bit!06:29
atidemhello folks06:29
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t0taln00bhi06:30
waylandbilllong story short, there is a package called winetools that will easily put in IE06:30
renzoohh ForgeAus.. you are so right...06:30
DaSkreech!botsnack06:30
ubotuYum!06:30
ForgeAuswine hmmm... you can even install the emulation suite for additional wine stuff...06:31
renzoopened my mind.. the answers .. could be always answered.. making our own question.. is 'thy question' (lol...).. to be or not to be..06:31
dhqwaylandbill: i need a vbscript to run the script i type in my pc only06:31
renzo*my head will explode here*06:31
waylandbillmaking a web script that only works in one browser tends to be frowned on in the real world though.06:31
ForgeAus(in kde-apps.org theres an emulation addon somewhere)06:31
ForgeAusits nice06:31
renzoor you can drink Wine and life is so cool...06:31
renzook I'm talking nonsense,  I think I'll leave06:32
renzothanks for being with me guys06:32
ForgeAusheeh philosophy... hmmm06:32
renzonoone from argentina? damn06:32
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renzoyeah philosophy06:32
DaSkreechrenzo: Why argentina?06:33
renzodskreech, cause I live in argentina06:33
renzoso if I find someone who lives in argentina, we can go out to drink some wine06:33
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renzoDaSkreech, soory!06:34
DaSkreech:-)06:34
DaSkreech!wine06:34
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:34
renzoForgeAus, why you said phylosophy?06:34
renzowine is also a drink!06:34
DaSkreechNot according to the bot :)06:34
renzocome on uBOTu!06:34
|lostbyte|dhq, opera seems to support vbscripts.06:34
renzook so I turn into a bot, and I send you this:06:34
ForgeAus!opera06:35
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser06:35
renzohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine06:35
dhq|lostbyte|: i am installing ie06:35
renzoopera is also a place were people go to see operas.. that music with actore!! lol06:35
ForgeAusyou mean ies4linux or cxoffice ie?06:35
renzouBOTu don't know nothing about 'natural life'06:35
ForgeAusand if its any good at the end they shout "encore!"06:36
dhqrenzo: your acting quite strange ???06:36
ForgeAusI don't think so06:36
ForgeAusjust unsual06:36
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|lostbyte|:P06:37
renzook and this is an opera http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera06:37
renzoI tell you I'm crazy.  ilike the beatles06:37
renzoand ubotu has sent me a PM!06:37
DaSkreech!itunes06:37
ubotuitunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee06:37
ForgeAus"twist and shout"06:37
dhqrenzo: i love beatles too06:37
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ForgeAusawww DaSkreech feeling uncomfortable?06:38
renzodhq, well I'm listening to them right now. I can play some of his songs on the guitarr06:38
DaSkreechNope I like em too just not enough to declare it and not enough to distract from work06:38
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renzounlukily I have my hand injured the ooother sunday.. (playing FOOTBALL)06:38
renzoDaSkreech what does the 'leaves... enty,,,' means?06:39
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DaSkreechrenzo: insect lovers :)06:39
renzoi used to have a dictionary... babylon (all the tonges were just one.. )06:39
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renzoohh, and who's that? well I love insects, but I haven't sayd nothing!06:40
DaSkreechrenzo: Yeah vertical property never works out very well06:40
renzoHelp!06:40
DaSkreechrenzo: You are getting close to O-T06:40
renzoI didn't get that DaSkreech06:40
DaSkreech!O-T06:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about o-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:41
renzoare you talking about religion? :/06:41
DaSkreech!offtopic06:41
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:41
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renzoohhh06:41
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renzoso I have to stay in topic06:41
renzoright06:41
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renzoyou know.. directx 10 was just released ... ;) my little brother told me that 'yesterday' (is that I-T --> in topic?)06:42
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josh_who is running an ftpserver?06:43
renzo!so you have to add these!! to blinf the r*b*tt?06:43
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renzoThanks daSkreech06:43
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|lostbyte|dhq, This might help ..http://modgb.sourceforge.net/06:43
renzoI think that migue is!! ;)06:43
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renzowas06:43
josh_what is the group a user has to be under in order to login thru ftp?06:43
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DaSkreechrenzo: You can join #kubuntu-offtopic and talk about whatever you like but in here wine is not a drink :)06:44
DaSkreechjosh_: depends on the server you are joining06:44
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elyon225Could someone please help me get my sound back?  I followed a tutorial on Crosstalk to compile/install Amarok with MTP support and now I have no sound whatsoever...06:44
josh_i just made a user for my ftp06:44
josh_but it cant login06:44
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josh_what group does it need to be under06:44
renzoDaSkreech ok, thanks.. but I was liking being here, so nice people.. but wine is wine, here and everywere.. I mean wine means a lot of things... a virtual win emulator, the blood of ...06:45
renzothe goodpeople.. strawberryfields forever!06:46
DaSkreechftp I would guess but it depends on how you setup your server06:46
renzook I'm leaving06:46
MuJWine Is Not Emulator06:46
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DaSkreechrenzo: You can be in both06:46
josh_there is no ftp group06:46
renzo'emulator' or similar.. what eber06:46
renzoever06:46
DaSkreechrenzo: You don't have to go06:46
renzoand ever06:46
josh_ftp user is in nobody group06:46
MuJmore like compatibilty layer06:47
renzoDaSkreech , I have cause I'm sooo tired... 'i haven't slept a wink...'06:47
DaSkreechrenzo: Just type /join #kubuntu-offtopic06:47
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DaSkreechrenzo: well hope you come back soon :)06:47
renzoI won't come back, as I never use linux06:47
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renzo:P, I 'm a win baby06:47
renzoa wine baby !!06:47
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renzooh no!! anonimek!! thanks you are not uBOTu!!06:48
Anonimek:>06:48
renzowhy you have colours and I don't!! you teach me that someday!06:48
Anonimekrenzo, goggle should teach You hehe :D06:49
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Anonimekgoogle*06:49
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renzoI use google a lot06:49
renzoI use even more, 'wikipedia'06:49
renzobigger than the french encycopedie06:50
renzoand much bigger that the british one...06:50
cosminhi, how can i install the newest version of kde in kubuntu 6.10 ? ( i have kde 3.5 now)06:50
waylandbillcosmin: you looking to go to 3.5.606:50
cosminyep06:51
renzowaylandbill, I cannot even think know, and you are thinking by me. sometimes words can hurt!06:51
Tm_Trenzo: Colours?06:51
DaSkreechcosmin: http://www.kubuntu.org06:51
HymnToLifecosmin, http://kubuntu.org06:51
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renzodamn I'm leaving... sometime people are not nice. (and I'm not sometimes too.. sorry :()06:51
waylandbillcosmin: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php06:52
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Tm_TMuJ: I think renzo needs invite or two.06:52
renzohttp://www.wikipedia.org/06:52
MuJpreferably two06:52
renzowhat's that Tm_T?06:52
cosmincanthanks06:53
mikl_ag06:53
cosmin*thanks06:53
mikl_ah, stop teasing him ;)06:53
renzoLucy in the Sky with Diamonds06:53
renzoLSD? guys what are you talking about!?06:53
parmenidesMy system is stuck in a loop at the log in screen... I can log in console but no x session it says refcount is 2 and should be 106:53
renzoI'm scared06:53
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Tm_Trenzo: Ok, now you really should follow topic more.06:54
mikl_hey, ubuntu is here06:54
elyon225Could someone please help me get my sound back?  I followed a tutorial on Crosstalk to compile/install Amarok with MTP support and now I have no sound whatsoever...06:54
renzoelyon225 try buying new speakers, mine are working bad too06:54
waylandbillparmenides: sounds like a driver problem with X. you may need to pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:54
mikl_elyon225: well, could you perhaps post a link to the tutorial, so it would be easier to find out what's wrong?06:55
renzoor we can CREATE or own music.. and we won't nead speakers.. we alreeady have ears and instrument06:55
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DaSkreechelyon225: It should have mtp support06:55
elyon225mikl_: http://thecrosstalk.blogspot.com/2007/01/amarok-music-manager.html06:55
DaSkreechWhat version are you using?06:56
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renzolol, sometimes I have so much fun!06:56
elyon225DaSkreech: It didn't recognize my player... and still doesn't after following that tutorial.  I have version 1.4.506:56
Tm_Trenzo: Then you have good sleep if you go now. ;)06:56
renzoDaSkreech "hye, thanks for helping me .. to look no so crazy!"06:56
renzoTm:T06:56
DaSkreechelyon225: Which player06:57
renzoyes, I have the goodnight beatles song.. mixed with octopuses' garden.. both sings ringo... star06:57
renzook so I'm leaving06:57
elyon225DaSkreech: Amarok.06:57
mikl_elyon225: what engines show up in Amarok?06:57
DaSkreech<elyon225> DaSkreech: It didn't recognize my player... and still doesn't after following that tutorial.  I have version 1.4.506:57
renzoif someone sometime want to talk06:57
DaSkreechWhich player?06:57
renzoI'll give my recent brand new email06:57
elyon225DaSkreech: Oh, sorry... Sansa e260.06:57
elyon225mikl_: It's using xine06:57
renzo... or not..06:58
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renzobetter not06:58
Tm_T;)06:59
renzosee you in the dark side of the moon06:59
Tm_TBye.06:59
renzoor see you somewhere over the rainbow06:59
DaSkreechGnight06:59
renzoand if I go to eat an forget this thing turned on?06:59
mikl_elyon225: you probably don't have the xine headers installed, so your package didn't get built properly06:59
Tm_Trenzo: We really don't care. ;)06:59
renzoon argentina, is a brand new day06:59
elyon225mikl_: That wouldn't affect the rest of the system though.  System sounds, games, videos... NO sound is working.06:59
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renzoTm_T so why the h*ll do you write that if you dont' care! lol!!07:00
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renzook ok ok bye bye bye!!07:00
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genjixI'm back!07:00
Tm_TBah.07:00
mikl_elyon225: have you tried removing your custom packages and reinstalling the old ones instead?07:00
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genjixhe left...07:00
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elyon225mikl_: To be honest, I'm not entirely sure how to do that.  I know that as I was following the tutorial, it installed a LOT of packages (libraries and KDE stuff) to meet dependencies.07:01
cntboh my, oowriter is so buggy and slow.. close to unusable. where to file bugs about it?07:01
mikl_elyon225: do you still have libxine1 installed - it might have be removed as an extra dependancy07:01
mikl_elyon225: well, if you have synaptic installed, it's real easy - you can find them under local packages07:02
elyon225mikl_: Yes, it's installed.07:02
mikl_otherwise, if you still have the package names for the packages you built with checkinstall, you can just run apt-get remove on those package-names (minus the ".deb")07:02
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elyon225mikl_: So, just remove the packages I installed with checkinstall?07:03
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mikl_elyon225: yes, and then reinstall amarok and amarok-xine07:04
mikl_then we can see if you hosed your system real badly ;)07:04
elyon225mikl_: But how would that fix the rest of the system sounds?07:04
elyon225Alright... I'll give it a shot.07:04
mikl_elyon225: well, going back to pristine state is usually the right place to start07:05
mikl_elyon225: if that doesn't work either, you can try other things07:05
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elyon225mikl_: The problem I'm seeing, though, is that removing these custom packages won't remove the tons of packages that were installed for dependencies... or would it?07:06
me_hi07:07
Dr_willisdepends on how you isntalled them07:07
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elyon225Dr_willis: I used sudo apt-get build-dep amarok07:07
Dr_willisthat just installed all the extra dependencies to compile the program.. nothing major to worry about07:08
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Dr_willisstuff that most all kde apps would need to compile as well07:08
elyon225Dr_willis: Well, it installed Konqueror, kmail, and a ton of other KDE apps too, I think.07:08
waylandbillelyon225: I've found that apt-get doesn't remove stuff as good as aptitude, but deborphan should be useful for you.07:09
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mikl_yeah, aptitude is the king07:09
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mikl_after getting used to aptitude, I rarely bother with Synaptic or Adept07:10
elyon225What is the difference between aptitude and apt-get?07:10
DaSkreechMMMMM Adept gives me reason to jump to feisty ;007:10
Dr_williselyon225,  yep.. it installed a lot of kde depenedncies07:11
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waylandbillaptitude uses an extra database to track 'auto' installed packages.07:11
elyon225Dr_willis: Is there a way to auto remove them?07:11
mikl_elyon225: well, it's like the difference between a manual can-opener and an electric one - both do the same...07:11
mikl_elyon225: aptitude is just more advanced - it's also a package browser07:11
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Dr_williselyon225,  theres a 'clean kde' url site i saw..  but it told how to get to a clean kde install.. You as asking how to remove KDE in  the Kubuntu channel. :) not many of us in here want to remove kde.07:12
Dr_willisi alsays install ubuntu, and kubuntu, and the full desktops.. :)07:12
mikl_if you run sudo aptitude without arguments, you can use it to browse packages, deciding which to install etc.07:12
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Dr_willisaptitude has such potential... and such... interesting screwups at times...07:12
Dr_willis:)07:12
elyon225Dr_willis: Well, I just want to get back to the state of my system BEFORE following this tutorial, but I have no way of knowing all the packages that it installed (there were 125 of them)07:12
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DarkWizdomaptitude has saved my ass quite alot of times ;)07:12
waylandbill:)07:13
Dr_williselyon225,  personally i wouldent worry about the packages it installed.. so you have some kde apps now.. big deal.07:13
elyon225I loved KDE for a long time, but it just wasn't stable enough on my system... so I'm stuck with gnome for now.07:13
derekSdoes anyone else have trouble stopping KDM? I don't want x running, i try to stop kdm (/etc/init.d/kdm stop) and it tells me kdm isn't running07:13
derekSbut if i do a ps aux | grep kdm it is07:13
elyon225Dr_willis: Well, it IS a big deal when SOMETHING it installed made my sound stop working.07:13
Dr_willischeck the history/buffer and see what all it installed perhaps.07:13
derekSps aux | grep kdm07:13
derekSroot      4202  0.0  0.0   2688   712 ?        Ss   Feb14   0:00 /usr/bin/kdm07:13
derekSroot      4480  0.0  1.1  23964 11732 ?        S    Feb14   0:01 /usr/bin/krootimage /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc07:13
Dr_williselyon225,  im guessing its somthing else that broke your sound.07:13
mikl_elyon225: we do not know what broke your sound...07:14
Dr_williselyon225,  fire up the package manager and start clicking? you may want to use the 'purge' option also.07:14
elyon225Dr_willis: I wouldn't think installing KDE stuff would do it either.  But I don't see how compiling/installing mtp and Amarok would do it either.07:14
Dr_willisi havent looked at the guide to see what all it said to do.. so no idea.. what it did.07:14
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mikl_elyon225: all we're suggesting is you try to go back to the point your system worked...07:15
waylandbillI agree with Dr_willis. it's probably not putting in some kde apps that broke the sound.07:15
DarkWizdomkubotu mtp07:15
Dr_williscould install some minimal window manager and see if sound works in it.. or if sound works from the console.07:15
elyon225Dr_willis: Basically just a few steps:  1) Install build-dep amarok.  2) Install libmtp.  3) install libgpod 4) install Amarok.  That's it :)07:15
mikl_Dr_willis: support for PlaysForSure devices etc.07:15
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elyon225mikl_: I would love to... just don't know how :)07:15
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Dr_willismikl_,  you mean those devices that no one seems to support? :)07:15
elyon225!about libgpod07:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about about libgpod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:16
elyon225!info libgpod07:16
DaSkreechDr_willis: mtp is a Microsoft transfer Protocol which is a hack of Kodak's PTP07:16
ubotuPackage libgpod does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas07:16
Dr_willisyou sure sound is broken.. or is your mixers just muted?07:16
elyon225Dr_willis: Yeah, I've checked the mixers...07:16
mikl_elyon225: fire up synaptic and try to see what happens if you removed those packages you built yourself - If you're in luck that might do the trick, otherwise try using deporphan to remove orphaned packages :)07:16
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elyon225mikl_: Already tried that ;)07:17
jbruckmanis there any music scribing software comparable to finale for linux?07:17
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cntbjbruckman: interesting q.07:19
coreymon77jbruckman: why not use finale?07:19
cntbI dunno07:20
coreymon77jbruckman: its for linux right, so cant you use it?07:20
jbruckmanfinale is for windows.07:20
cntbfinale is in windows07:20
jbruckmannot to mention its price.07:20
coreymon77oh07:20
coreymon77look on apt07:21
jbruckmank07:21
cntbPM jbruckman07:21
coreymon77there may be something there07:21
jbruckmancntb done.07:21
jbruckmancntb: done*07:21
waylandbillelyon225: the reason deborphan doesn't work is because they were not auto installed. Build-dep marks them to be explicitly installed.07:22
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DaSkreech!finale07:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about finale - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:22
elyon225Okay, well I followed the tutorial again, this time PURGEing everything it had me install... do I need to restart?07:22
waylandbillelyon225: you could look at /var/log/dpkg.log and see the date/time stamps and determine what was installed I think.07:23
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DaSkreech!info finale07:23
ubotuPackage finale does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas07:23
jbruckman!phillips music writer07:24
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jbruckman!"music writer07:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about music writer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:24
hattajbruckman, http://linux-sound.org/notation.html07:24
jbruckmanhatta: thanks07:25
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stamenhi07:25
cntbwow hatta that was fast07:25
cntbstamen ? bg ?07:25
stamenwhat is the meaning of non-contigeus after file system check07:25
stamenyes07:25
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stamencntb: you mean bulgarian ?07:26
DaSkreech!itunes07:26
ubotuitunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee07:26
cntbPM me after consulting here07:26
stamen!players07:26
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs07:26
Heavenquake!life07:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:26
cntb!bg07:27
ubotu #ubuntu-bg    . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently07:27
stamen :)07:27
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mikl_I wish I knew bulgarian07:27
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mikl_solid_liquid: is there a good reason for this most oxymoronic of nicknames?07:29
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DaSkreechmikl_: First guess would be Hideo Kojima07:29
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smozehow come kubuntu can't use more than one sound source at the same time?07:29
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elyon225Dr_willis, mikl_:  Just thought I'd let you know, after rebooting, my sound still didn't work.  So I opened up the mixer, changed to OSS, and it worked!  Changing back to ALSA and it still works... I don't get it lol07:30
Dr_willisclarify that...07:30
kub1is it possible to have KDM list users with icons ala OS X login manager?07:30
Dr_willissmoze,  you mean play more  then 1 sound making program at 1 time?07:30
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DaSkreechkub1: Technically yes07:30
Dr_williskub1,  theres a great many kdm themes you can use.07:30
Dr_williselyon225,  sounds like some modules got confused perhaps..07:30
kub1Oh, ok... I will check it out on KDElook.org I guess - thanks for the heads up07:30
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elyon225eh well, in any case, I have sound now.  Still no mtp support, of course... but oh well :)07:31
mikl_smoze: I have no such problems07:31
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mikl_elyon225: Sorry that we could not help you more, but sound system is notoriously fickle, so it's hard to tell what might be wrong07:33
smozei mean that some programs can't play sound because another program has reserved alsa07:33
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mikl_smoze: any programs in particular or just generally?07:33
smozewell, amarok and firefox for instance07:34
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acidohello world07:35
acidothis is my first messege in linux  XD07:35
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Dr_willisMoo!07:37
Dr_willis:)07:37
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eleacido:welcome to linuxworld :D07:37
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voicu!kde407:39
ubotuFor information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org07:39
cavallo_which program to use for editing videos etc. ?07:39
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stdincavallo_: try avidemux07:40
HymnToLifecavallo_, define "editing"07:41
surgyhello07:41
surgyhow is everyone this after noon?07:41
voicuprocrastinating :D07:41
surgy:)07:41
cavallo_HymnToLife: cut some pieces of movie, merge movies etc.07:41
voicuso... in order to install kde4 what should i do?07:42
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voicuis there a package or do i have to compile it?07:42
DaSkreechvoicu: Break out the compiler and some lowered expectations07:42
HymnToLifecavallo_, go with avidemux then07:42
stdinyou'll need to compile the cvs version07:42
DaSkreechvoicu: There is a package but ti's quite a few months old07:42
voicuokay...07:42
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surgyok i have a problem, i have a computer its a 700mhz 256mb ram,  where both cd roms are giving continual read errors, and i have burned 3 cds so far and all get the errors, so im thinking its the cdrom, now my question is, what are my alternatives? is there a network install?07:43
frojnd!cedega07:44
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega07:44
voicuKDE 3.80.2 means KDE4 beta, right?07:44
fdovingright.07:44
voicuok07:44
DaSkreechvoicu: Honestly at this point in time unless you are developer there is very little to see07:44
fdovingthe new run dialog is nice.07:44
DaSkreechIt means CVs I don't know if it's reached beta yet07:44
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DaSkreechkruner ftw!07:45
surgyvoicu: why not just use the bleeding edge kde repo?07:45
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voicuDaSkreech, well i guess a few apps will work, aren't they?07:45
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DaSkreechOh yeah they will07:45
fdovingkonsole and konqueror works.07:45
DaSkreech For the most part it looks just like 3.5.* though07:45
DaSkreechover the next month things will pick up for apps but the groundwork is still being polished07:46
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surgyim sorry for being rude but my question is kindof pressing, can someone help?07:46
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DaSkreechget a new CDrom?07:46
fdovingusb-cdrom? :)07:47
fdovingusb-stick with cd-content.07:47
surgydaskreech: there is no network instal07:47
fdovingthere is a network install, but it boots from a cd too :)07:47
surgymy usb stick is only 128mb :(07:47
DaSkreechThere is no official one I know of. I know it can be done07:47
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DaSkreechsurgy: As long as you can boot from USB that shoudl be cool07:48
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surgydaskreech: ok ill try07:49
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DaSkreech!07:49
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DaSkreechMao_Tse_Tung: Do0d You are like famous07:49
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samiam010203anyone in here using kubuntu feisty with beryl ?07:51
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DaSkreechsamiam010203: try in #ubuntu+107:52
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mrbrdohey07:52
samiam010203thanks DaSkreech07:52
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mrbrdoi have a problem with SMB4K - i can't mount shares where there is no authentication requred (like mount -smbfs ... -o GUEST), it only works if i have a username&password required07:53
mrbrdoit works if i mount manually with mount -smbfs... -o guest,...07:53
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d03boyahoy07:55
d03boyhow do i go through the xorg configuration again07:55
mrbrdoxorg-configure or something like that07:56
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d03boythats what i thought too but its not auto completeing07:57
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Adydasisnt it xconfigure?08:00
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Adydasjust a bad memory guess08:00
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Adydasor perhaps configurex08:00
DaSkreech!resolution08:00
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:00
arawnhi for all08:00
DaSkreech!X08:00
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Theishow can I install codecs on kubuntu ?08:03
Theiswitout automatix08:03
mrbrdoi have a problem with SMB4K - i can't mount shares where there is no authentication requred (like mount -smbfs ... -o GUEST), it only works if i have a username&password required08:03
fdoving!codecs | theis08:03
mrbrdoTheis: www.ubuntuguide.com08:03
ubotutheis: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:03
DaSkreech!x08:04
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:04
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mrbrdoi have a problem with SMB4K - i can't mount shares where there is no authentication requred (like mount -smbfs ... -o GUEST), it only works if i have a username&password required08:04
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kamikazihi,i am having trouble with my intel 2100 wifi card on my laptop. i think the radio is off, and the button that turns it on doesnt work. any tips?08:05
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djneosera08:07
arawnHello, do you installed Ubuntu serevr on Poweredge  ?08:10
arawn195008:10
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XenThraLhi, how do I go about resetting all file extensions on konqueror?08:11
XenThraLto their defaults08:11
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alexiconanyone here know much about NAT?08:13
andremartetraco, che problema hai?08:13
Art_Which is better, DVD-R or DVD+R?08:13
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urantherDVD*R08:14
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Art_uranther, Huh?08:14
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urantherjust playin08:14
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Art_uranther, Hehe.08:14
alexiconive set up my iptables but i still cant ping out from an internal box08:15
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alexiconwhen i run route, it shows one default gateway for one interface. should both the interfaces on the nat box show the default gw?08:16
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antibodythe dmix plugin for alsa exists?08:17
antibodyin cedega I wanted to play eve-online and can share the sound08:17
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DaSkreechArt_:08:17
DaSkreechThe one yuo can find in the stores08:17
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usuarioeu sou um novo usurio do Linux, e tenho dvida em como reduzir a janela, haveria algum nessa sala que possa me ajudar?08:18
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Art_DaSkreech, No difference, huh?08:18
DaSkreechNot enough to talk about08:18
Art_DaSkreech, Thanks much, sorta what I thought.08:19
usuarioI am a Linux new user, and I would like how can I do to reduce a screen in my notebook, someone could help me?08:19
DaSkreech!es08:19
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:19
d03boyhow can I get glxgears to print the fps08:19
DaSkreechusuario: You mean put down the resolution? Or make a window smaler?08:19
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usuarioajuda em portugus, por favor, vc sabe onde?08:20
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gugu^Can somebody Help me to install ymessenger08:20
DaSkreech!br08:20
ubotupt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.08:20
DaSkreechusuario: Better? :)08:20
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DaSkreechgugu^: You can use kopete08:20
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gugu^DaSkreech: i need it for public use, but kopete is..08:21
DaSkreechgugu^: Public use?08:21
gugu^DaSkreech: in internet cafe08:21
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frojndwhat's the command to see what cpu do u have, ram, disks.. etc08:22
DaSkreechAh. so you want the Windows yahoo messenger?08:22
DaSkreechlshw08:22
alexiconanyone know about nat forwarding??08:22
Admiral_Chicagofrojnd: /proc08:23
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Admiral_Chicagofrojnd: better yet lshw08:23
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: lshw is nicer ;008:23
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: ^^ :)08:23
DaSkreechme ftw!08:23
gugu^DaSkreech:  yes, on linux, I can`t install it, there says that i do not have some libraries08:24
DaSkreechgugu^: How are you trying to install it?08:24
frojnd[20:23:51]  <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: /proc   I put (/proc) where08:24
frojndand I can't find how many ram do I have08:25
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DaSkreechfrojnd: /proc is folder. It holds a lot of info about your computer08:25
frojndI mean, what kind of ram :)08:25
gugu^DaSkreech: I have downloading the Yahoo! Messenger for Unix, and tryied to install in GUI08:25
DaSkreechfrojnd: like cat /proc/meminfo08:25
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DaSkreechAh. what libraries does it say you are missing?08:26
gugu^DaSkreech: I don`t know how to install in comand line08:26
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DaSkreechgugu^: you are following the instructions on the Yahoo site?08:26
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gugu^DaSkreech: yes, but in comand line is writing No such file or directory08:29
DaSkreechAh can you paste what you are typing in?08:29
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gugu^DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6729/08:32
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DaSkreechgugu^: can you type ls Desktop/ and tell me if you see the file in the list that gets printed?08:34
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jotti'm looking for something like thedraw/aciddraw... i once found something similar for linux but i forgot it's name (just tried bmdraw/duhdraw/textdraw but they all kindof suck).. any hints (besides dosbox;)?08:34
oli606hi08:34
oli606hi friends !08:35
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gugu^DaSkreech: ls: Desktop/: No such file or directory08:36
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DaSkreechgugu^: Whats the name of your main user?08:37
DaSkreechgugu ?08:37
gugu^DaSkreech: comp0208:37
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DaSkreechgugu^: ok try ls ~comp02/Desktop08:42
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gugu^DaSkreech:  firefox.desktop   ooo-writer.desktop  ooo-calc.desktop  ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb08:43
DaSkreechgugu^: ok try dpkg -i ~comp02/Desktop/ymessenger_1.<press tab><press enter>08:44
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sebbarhi, I got myself an ethernet modem, I know I have to configure it through the web-browser, but how do I know the ip of the modem?08:45
fdovingit's usually in the manual.08:45
DaSkreechsebbar: try ifconfig08:46
DaSkreechOr read the book it came with :)08:46
Admiral_Chicagosebbar: it's usually 192.168.0.108:46
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DaSkreechNormally 10.0.0.138 here08:46
gugu^DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6731/08:46
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sebbarok tnx08:49
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DaSkreechgugu^: Hmm can You paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?08:50
DaSkreechgugu^: Or tell me if you have universe installed?08:50
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gugu^DaSkreech: no i havent08:50
gugu^DaSkreech: -bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied08:51
DaSkreechgugu^: try cat /etc/apt/sources.list08:51
DaSkreechand paste that output08:51
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DaSkreechgugu^: or better try alt+F2 -> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:52
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gugu^DaSkreech:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6734/08:53
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DaSkreechgugu^: Did you do the alt+F2 command ?08:54
gugu^DaSkreech: yes08:54
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DaSkreechOk did you get a window open with this file?08:55
gugu^DaSkreech: yes08:55
DaSkreechok press F11 in that window08:55
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DaSkreechYou should get a list of numbers on the left hand side08:56
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gugu^DaSkreech: yeap08:56