[12:13] <kibbuntu> 1
[12:14] <cpk1> kibbuntu: you cant start kopete from tty1, its just odd that something like kopete would cause a complete lockup
[12:15] <BluesKaj> dunno if beryl runs on dapper
[12:15] <kibbuntu> however thanx vega and cpk^_^
[12:17] <Eltran> I R NOOB U
[12:18] <hydr0> hello all
[12:19] <flaccid> BluesKaj: compiz perhaps?
[12:19] <flaccid> !compiz
[12:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:21] <cntb> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?arcane01.wav=arcane still brings install missing plugins on my FF@ in dapper
[12:21] <LeeJunFan> how do you ident a pcmcia card now that cardctl is gone? lspcmcia is crap - nothing is implemented yet.
[12:21] <cntb> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?arcane01.wav=arcane still brings install missing plugins on my FF2 in dapper
[12:21] <cntb> soryy repeating
[12:22] <Kotter> re
[12:25] <BluesKaj> cntb, did you install the mplayer plugin
[12:26] <koyo001> helo
[12:26] <vegasmcpc> what do you guys recommend for a file system for a large raid 5 array?
[12:27] <koyo001> i have a problem
[12:27] <cntb> it is not in repos just downloaded from http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=mplayerplug-in&filename=mplayerplug-in-2.80.tar.gz&use_mirror=heanet
[12:27] <koyo001> try to do add remove
[12:27] <koyo001> but it says another system is running
[12:27] <vegasmcpc> !reiser
[12:27] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[12:27] <koyo001> the add remove
[12:27] <vegasmcpc> !xfs
[12:28] <ubotu> xfs: X font server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 192 kB
[12:29] <koyo001> anyone able to help me with this problem
[12:31] <LeeJunFan> !adeptfix | koyo001
[12:31] <ubotu> koyo001: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:32] <vegasmcpc> !ext2
[12:32] <vegasmcpc> !ext3
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:39] <willy> alguien sabe como compilar c
[12:39] <willy> codigo c
[12:39] <willy> #kubuntu-es
[12:40] <LjL> !build-essential | willy
[12:40] <ubotu> willy: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:40] <LjL> gcc nombrefichero.c -o nombreoutput
[12:41] <willy> a pero fijate
[12:41] <willy> que me hablaban de un compilar tipo borland c
[12:41] <willy> llamado anjuta
[12:41] <[GuS] > willy, here is in english only
[12:41] <willy> pero ya lo baje
[12:41] <willy> ok in english
[12:41] <willy> i'msorry
[12:42] <willy> the compilator anjuta how see what have me
[12:42] <willy> ?
[12:42] <[GuS] > =)
[12:43] <cpk1> willy: you want to see if you have anjuta installed?
[12:44] <willy> yea,
[12:44] <cpk1> willy: aptitude show anjuta
[12:44] <willy> i download with synaptic
[12:44] <willy> ok ok
[12:46] <willy> ok ok i have anjuta installed
[12:46] <cntb> BluesKaj: too much voodoo in install FF2 lib  is in  /usr/local/lib/firefox-2.0
[12:47] <cntb> BluesKaj: found an script in /usr/bin/firefox
[12:47] <cpk1> willy: there is also anjuta-common and anjuta-dev don't know if you want those too but you can use aptitude show to check for those as well
[12:47] <cntb> so how can a mplayerplugin happily compile ? BluesKaj what a mess ?
[12:51] <willy> ok cpk1
[12:51] <willy> tanks
[12:51] <willy> thanks
[12:53] <cntb> firefox is in some exotic place
[12:53] <cntb> how can I trace a working app in memory
[12:54] <cntb> will ps aux  give me location of binary?
[01:03] <DonMCN> Can somebody help me with setting up Java on Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake?
[01:04] <DonMCN> !java
[01:04] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:07] <DonMCN> !restricted
[01:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:09] <en1gma> whats the command to fix-unionfs
[01:09] <en1gma> i do 'fix-unionfs' in term and it dont work
[01:09] <en1gma> -search fix
[01:10] <en1gma> !fix
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <blup> !help
[01:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:10] <en1gma> !fix-unionfs
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-unionfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <en1gma> !help fix
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <coreymon77> hi
[01:11] <en1gma> hello
[01:11] <coreymon77> my sound is still not working
[01:11] <en1gma> im using kubuntu 6.06 live dvd and need to update and cant do it cause i cant remember the fix-unionfs command
[01:11] <en1gma> can someone help me
[01:13] <DonMCN> you don't update with the cd
[01:13] <DonMCN> you need to install Kubuntu 6.06 before you can update
[01:13] <en1gma> i thought i could down load some apps to memory
[01:13] <fanscore> !fr
[01:13] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:13] <DonMCN> i have never tried that, though it seems illogical
[01:14] <en1gma> i just want to get nmap
[01:15] <DonMCN> en1gma, i am sorry but i do believe you must install kubuntu before you can update or download any programs.
[01:15] <en1gma> no ive dloaded before i think*
[01:15] <en1gma> but i know i need to do a fix-unionfs
[01:15] <en1gma> can someone tell me the exact command to do that
[01:15] <DonMCN> !fix-unionfs
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-unionfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <DonMCN> !unionfs
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unionfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <DonMCN> I am not sure what you mean..
[01:16] <DonMCN> Very sorry :(
[01:16] <BluesKaj> en1gma, you can try dling but you it'llbe difficult to save the file and then execute it
[01:16] <DonMCN> I do not know what fix-unionfs is
[01:17] <en1gma> man i thought i dlaoded and ran it before all from ram...maybe i was think dsl
[01:17] <en1gma> fix-unionfs fixes something then i do an apt-get update
[01:17] <en1gma> then i do the repositories
[01:17] <en1gma> then it usually dloads
[01:18] <blup> hi
[01:18] <en1gma> hi
[01:18] <blup> en1gma you can try http://kanotix.com/FAQ-id_cat-15.html#q60
[01:19] <en1gma> maybe that is what i tried
[01:19] <en1gma> i got a few live cds and sometimes i mix up kubunto with kanotix
[01:19] <en1gma> blup thanks
[01:19] <en1gma> bbiam
[01:21] <mtv> does vmware server support usb devices?
[01:22] <HymnToLife[] > mtv, yes
[01:23] <mtv> alright, so in theory i should be able to get a printer/scanner to install under vmware
[01:23] <HymnToLife> in theory :p
[01:23] <Jrex> anyone have a fingerprint scanner that works both in kubuntu and windows?
[01:25] <lgc> Hi! Does anyone know what do I have to install in order to have access to voice on my IM client?
[01:25] <fanscore> !fr
[01:25] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:26] <lgc> gnomefreak, hi.
[01:31] <jmichaelx> !restricted formats | badpenguin4543
[01:31] <ubotu> badpenguin4543: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:31] <lgc> Hi! Does anyone know what do I have to install in order to have access to voice on my IM client?
[01:36] <tuna> Yo!
[01:36] <tuna> Ok, something ain't quite right with apt-get on this comp
[01:37] <tuna> you see, i was trying to install ubuntu-desktop
[01:37] <tuna> well... the problems kind of complicated... let me pastebin the terminal history to you...
[01:39] <tuna> http://rafb.net/p/Gf0OOx44.html
[01:39] <tuna> please help!
[01:39] <poningru> waah?
[01:39] <poningru> hold on
[01:39] <tuna> i know, it's really long
[01:40] <tuna> so is there a way to fix it or am i better off backing up all my files and reinstalling?
[01:40] <poningru> err wow
[01:40] <poningru> yeah thats pretty fracked up
[01:41] <tuna> so should i reinstall?
[01:41] <devilsadvocate> tuna, try doing sudo apt-get -f install
[01:41] <tuna> ok
[01:41] <poningru> sudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> no
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> just -f install
[01:42] <tuna> oops
[01:42] <tuna> i did sudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop
[01:42] <tuna> crap
[01:42] <yuriy> can anybody on feisty try this: launch amarok, change your keyboard layout/variant, then try to edit a tag
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> it wont recognize the command
[01:42] <devilsadvocate> ir'll jump out immediately
[01:43] <yuriy> err nvm it's not just amarok
[01:43] <devilsadvocate> yuriy, #ubuntu+1
[01:43] <tuna> devilsadvocate was right. ok, trying your suggestion
[01:45] <tuna> devilsadvocate  it didn't work http://rafb.net/p/A2He4B45.html
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> tuna, back up your data
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> then do sudo rm /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[01:46] <tuna> like my personal files?
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> hmm
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> no
[01:46] <devilsadvocate> wait
[01:47] <tuna> ok
[01:47] <devilsadvocate> resart your computer and try -f install once again
[01:48] <tuna> ok, brb then
[01:56] <tuna> ok, the weirdest thing
[01:56] <tuna> when i logged in, it went straight to Gnome!
[01:56] <tuna> but if feels kinda slow...
[01:57] <tuna> when i ran that command, something weird happened...
[01:57] <tuna> hang on, let me pull up pastebin
[02:00] <dxdt> Can anyone recommend some good applets for me to install now that I"m running KDE for the first time.
[02:00] <dxdt> ?
[02:00] <tuna> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6653/
[02:01] <tuna> devilsadvocate still there?
[02:01] <tuna> dxdt akregator
[02:02] <carl> hi
[02:02] <carl> uhm
[02:03] <adydas> !tvout
[02:03] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[02:03] <tuna> devilsadvocate so now i'm in Gaim, and i'm not quite sure what i should do...
[02:03] <carl> I have a logitech mouse with navigational buttons on the side.. MX1000 mouse... but how do I enable the "back" and "forward" function when browsing the web? It's a fuction i really miss :s
[02:03] <dxdt> Cool, any others?  Any applets that are your favorites in here?
[02:04] <carl> !logitech
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <tuna> dxdt make sure Konqueror's installed. It will quickly become your best friend
[02:05] <slyfox> Help, my video card is not supported by latest 9xxx series nvidia drivers. I have Nvidia GGorce GO 7700 card, what do I do ?
[02:05] <adydas> whys it not supported
[02:06] <adydas> i have a 7900 and it works fine
[02:06] <dxdt> Konqueror  I do have installed.  I installed the knetwork manager app.  kweather.  ummm  let's see..  any other fun programs for KDE anyone would recommend?  Up until now, I've only used Gnome
[02:06] <slyfox> adydas: did you use the envy script ? How did you install the drivers ?
[02:07] <adydas> slyfox:
[02:07] <dxdt> is it possible to do video preview with Konqueror, so far I haven't been able to
[02:07] <mitxel> hola
[02:07] <tuna> dxdt SuperKaramba can be fun, but be careful of the widgets you install, they could cause it to crash
[02:07] <tuna> dxdt i'm not sure...
[02:07] <slyfox> adydas: did you use the envy script ? How did you install the drivers ?
[02:07] <adydas> slyfox: apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common linux-source-2.6.17
[02:08] <dxdt> is SuperKaramba the program that has widgets that are compatible with the Yahoo widgets?  Or something like that?  maybe this is a kde 4 thing but I remember hearing something about this
[02:08] <adydas> Somone here told me about it, did it and it worked
[02:08] <slyfox> adydas: so you used the one that is in the edgy guide, I used the latest 9xxx series for Beryl
[02:08] <adydas> dxdt: ill get you a screenshot if you want
[02:08] <adydas> Oh
[02:08] <adydas> sorry no beryl here
[02:09] <tuna> dxdt i don't know if it's compatible with Yahoo widgets. you could try, i doubt it would hurt anything...
[02:09] <tuna> devilsadvocate are you there?
[02:09] <dxdt> is SuperKaramba generally considered "the" widget program for KDE? or could it have been another widget program that exists out there?
[02:10] <tuna> dxdt i think SK is built off of Karamba (not super), but i'm not certain
[02:11] <Jucato> dxdt: it is
[02:11] <adydas> i belive its considerd to be the widget program for KDE
[02:11] <adydas> and gdesklets for gome ?
[02:11] <adydas> gnome?
[02:11] <tuna> maybe i'm wrong
[02:11] <tuna> eh, whatever
[02:11] <adydas> SK has alot of support
[02:11] <tuna> hey, how do you nudge in an IRC?
[02:12] <Jucato> yes, superkaramba is a sort of "evolution" of karamba. but karamba doesn't exists anymore afaik
[02:12] <mikes1> How do I install beryl in herd?
[02:13] <HymnToLife> tuna, you don't
[02:14] <tuna> hymntolife so is there any kind of "attention getter?" i want to get devilsadvocate's attention, cuz he won't respond...
[02:14] <tuna> he was helping me before
[02:14] <mikes1> Where can I d/load beryl core from?
[02:15] <HymnToLife> just say his name
[02:15] <HymnToLife> depending on how he configured his client, it will do something
[02:15] <tuna> wait, how to i whisper?
[02:16] <tuna> so do i
[02:16] <tuna> devilsadvocate please help me!
[02:16] <adydas> mikes1: http://www.beryl-project.org/releases.php
[02:17] <hellcattrav> ^^true
[02:18] <Jucato> dwidmann: so mentioning your name in IRC, with your client set to notify/highlight you, isn't enough? :)
[02:18] <dwidmann> Gives the same effect really, unless I set things otherwise
[02:18] <dwidmann> I think I included that in the /etc
[02:19] <dwidmann> It has to do the notify though really, the highlight truely isn't enough
[02:20] <slyfox> Why is it when I got here "/" all the folders are visible, it used to be that only /media and /home were visible. Show hidden files is unchecked. Is my KDE broken ?
[02:20] <Jucato> !hidden | slyfox
[02:20] <ubotu> slyfox: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[02:20] <dwidmann> Heck, they may have been removed already, hard to say
[02:20] <slyfox> Jucato: yeah, but they are suppsed to be hidden, why are they visible ?
[02:20] <tuna> i hate that feature!
[02:20] <margis> hello all
[02:20] <tuna> hey
[02:20] <margis> i have a problem
[02:21] <tuna> me too
[02:21] <tuna> don't we all?
[02:21] <dwidmann> I hear that a lot
[02:21] <margis> with  share  internet connection
[02:21] <margis> can i ask?
[02:21] <tuna> sure
[02:21] <tuna> but i probly cant answer
[02:21] <Jucato> slyfox: you must have edited something? or are you on feisty?
[02:21] <dwidmann> tuna: I don't ..... unless you count that long list of problems I'm hiding behind my back.
[02:21] <tuna> dwidmann i do
[02:21] <tuna> :D
[02:22] <slyfox> Jucato: neither. I just install kde 3.5.6 same installation works fine on another machine
[02:22] <tuna> anyway, margis, go on
[02:22] <margis> so...i   use a  router  that  i  connect it  with my pc  with ethernet...i use kubuntu 6.1 in my pc  nad  i want to  share my internet  with my laptop
[02:22] <coreymon77> i hear that kde 4 is going to be able to be put on any os
[02:22] <margis> i  got  confuysed with the  ips
[02:22] <coreymon77> is that trie?
[02:22] <margis> and  i  didnt  make  anything
[02:22] <coreymon77> true*
[02:23] <Jucato> slyfox: I'm not really sure. just check the files mentioned in that wiki if they still exist
[02:23] <dwidmann> coreymon77: only the programs, not the actual desktop environent, if I rmeember right.
[02:23] <coreymon77> oh
[02:23] <tuna> can't KDE be put on any unix?
[02:23] <coreymon77> well, atleast ill still be able to use konv when i get a mac
[02:23] <margis> is  there any programm to  make  auto  share  the connection?
[02:23] <Jucato> KDE 4 *apps* **can** be made to run on win32 and Mac OS
[02:23] <dwidmann> tuna: yes
[02:23] <coreymon77> and still use mac os
[02:23] <tuna> certainly won't see it on winows
[02:23] <margis> except  the   firestarter
[02:23] <tuna> *windows
[02:24] <slyfox> Jucato: "check the files mentioned in that wiki if they still exist"  how do you mean ?
[02:24] <Jucato> but that depends on whether the maintainers
[02:24] <margis> so can anyone help me or not?
[02:24] <dwidmann> Jucato: kde programs yes, but it won't be the whole deal ported if I remember right (ie: kicker, kwin, kdesktop, etc)
[02:24] <Jucato> will want to port them
[02:24] <tuna> somebody can, margis. i can't, though...
[02:24] <Jucato> dwidmann: theoretically, they can be. but some devs don't want to bother
[02:24] <tuna> margis just be patient...
[02:24] <margis> ok   iwait
[02:25] <margis> any with   share connection?
[02:25] <Jucato> slyfox: read the wiki page I gave above. there are files that are mentioned there that affect the behavior of this hidden-root feature
[02:25] <margis> i  need  only  2-3  numbers
[02:25] <tuna> margis did you check the docs, ubuntu wiki, etc.?
[02:25] <dwidmann> Weren't there X11 deps on some of those programs or something that would have made it take more effort? (especially for kwin)
[02:26] <margis> yes  i  saw them
[02:26] <margis> i  google   2  hours  now
[02:26] <tuna> brb all
[02:27] <margis> is  this  a  help-channel or not?
[02:27] <dwidmann> margis: yes
[02:27] <margis> nice
[02:27] <dwidmann> "Kubuntu Support Channel |...."
[02:27] <margis> i see many people
[02:27] <margis> nobody has a  share connection at home?
[02:28] <margis> i dont  thing  so
[02:28] <Jucato> !patience
[02:28] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:28] <dwidmann> margis: keep in mind there probably aren't more than 10 people who are actually here right now
[02:28] <margis> the  others?
[02:28] <dwidmann> Idle
[02:29] <dwidmann> away
[02:29] <margis> and   why idle?
[02:29] <dwidmann> whatever
[02:29] <margis> just  to say...ahh  we have many people?
[02:29] <margis> i dont  think this is  helpful
[02:29] <dwidmann> dunno
[02:29] <dwidmann> Some of them stay on 24/7 despite only being on at certain hours
[02:29] <dwidmann> etc
[02:29] <Jucato> you ask them. we don't bother to ask them since they're not here
[02:30] <Jucato> they've been here when I first came in a half a year ago
[02:30] <margis> i  use linux  for 10days and  i  always  google  for  my problems....but  if i dont  find  a  solution?what i must do?
[02:31] <zanella> man
[02:31] <coreymon77> margis: ask for help here
[02:31] <margis> i ask
[02:31] <margis> but  i dont  get response
[02:31] <coreymon77> just be patient
[02:31] <margis> xmmm
[02:31] <coreymon77> we are all volunteers here
[02:32] <coreymon77> ask your question and be patient
[02:32] <coreymon77> if someone knows how to help you
[02:32] <Jucato> margis: not everyone here might know how to solve your problem. we're users just like you, trying to help others with what we do know
[02:32] <coreymon77> they will eventially
[02:32] <coreymon77> eventually*
[02:32] <margis> ok
[02:33] <dwidmann> margis: the topic of internet connection sharing does come up every once in a while. I don't really know anything about it though
[02:33] <Mena> how to set cron to run scadual program regural
[02:33] <dx11101> anyone know how to get 5.1 sound using xmms?
[02:33] <zanella> connection sharing is set through iptables_nat
[02:33] <margis> zanella  easy to say  hard  to  do
[02:33] <margis> i ma  noob in linux
[02:34] <margis> i  used to have windows  for 8 years
[02:34] <margis> ok nevermind guys,,,,i  go to google  again
[02:35] <coreymon77> margis: dont worry, just be patient, someone will answer you eventually
[02:39] <bajuzam> Hi Folks ;-)
[02:39] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[02:40] <bajuzam> i am the stupid one here !
[02:41] <[Relic] > installed something that broke the gui somehow and now I only get text log in.  I think it was one of the clock apps since I was trying to find one I want.  So I need to make sure I have all the steps necessary to find and extract them to see if I can get my setup back.
[02:42] <[Relic] > What combo of dpkg and info to tell me only the clock apps?  w/o my doc pages I can't really tell  would something like   dpkg -l *clock*    work?
[02:43] <Irayo> I have two network cards, what's the best way to make sure one of them doesn't start up at boot?
[02:44] <bajuzam> dont know , sorry .... i needed about 5 houres to get my wlan wpa-psk encryptet
[02:44] <Irayo> yeah I just finished my wpa-psk config for Kubuntu
[02:44] <Irayo> and now I need to make sure my second wireless card (which doesn't support WPA) doesn't get brought up
[02:45] <mrkde> Does anyone know what that doom styled drop down shell is called and if I can get it for Kubuntu
[02:45] <bajuzam> u cant put this card out of youre pc ?
[02:51] <dxdt> What package do I need to install or what do I need to configure so that my fonts don't look gross under KDE?  I don't know what package it is, but if you install kubuntu-desktop, the problem is gone so I know something is done.  I don't want to install Kubuntu-desktop though because it installs soooo many other programs I don't want
[02:54] <DonMCN> Can somebody help me with installing Java 6
[02:54] <SlackRat> mr kde, the quake style dropdown console ??
[02:54] <SlackRat> its called YaKuake......
[02:54] <SlackRat> avail in the repos
[02:58] <Jucato> DonMCN: enable the -backports repositories, then "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin"
[02:59] <dx11101> anyone know how to get sound to come out of more then two speakers?
[03:00] <lameriuga> Please Help
[03:01] <lameriuga> Can somebody help me
[03:01] <lameriuga> ???
[03:01] <Jucato> !somebody
[03:02] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:02] <lameriuga> ok
[03:03] <lameriuga> I made some modify in /etc/sysctl.conf ,  and how can I save what i modify, and to go to command line?
[03:05] <dx11101> how to get 5.1 channels audio
[03:05] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell dx11101 about sound | dx11101, see the private message from ubotu.
[03:06] <malik> is there any utility in kubuntu to program the comp to auto turn off on scheduled time?
[03:07] <Talaman> "the greeting application appears to be crashing" is the error i get
[03:07] <Talaman> any suggestions
[03:08] <dx11101> Kron Scheduler?
[03:09] <dx11101> okay i think if you install the package alsamixergui you can get 5.1 sound set up
[03:09] <malik> dx11101: is that for me?
[03:09] <dx11101> i could be wrong
[03:10] <dx11101> malik
[03:10] <dx11101> kron scheduler is where you create scheduled tasks but i have no idea how to use it yet
[03:10] <dx11101> eventually i want to set mine up to turn my computer off at 1:00am
[03:11] <Blu3> any recommendations for a GRUB linux distro for a 4G pendrive?  *ubuntu doesn't work because the installer insists on running it's own partition manager and neither the old nor new work because they don't recognize 2048b sectors.  neither can i manually do it because the part. manager doesn't recognize the existing partitions
[03:12] <DonMCN> Jucato brb im going to restart
[03:12] <Jucato> DonMCN: have you enabled the backports repository?
[03:12] <Jucato> er? why restart?
[03:12] <malik> dx11101: cant find it in repositories
[03:12] <DonMCN> yes i did in the adept manager
[03:13] <Jucato> DonMCN: er.. you better do this in the command line for now
[03:13] <DonMCN> I'
[03:13] <DonMCN> I'm not too well with the command line
[03:13] <Jucato> DonMCN: Java and Adept Manager won't be playing nice with each other until Feisty
[03:13] <Jucato> I'll just give you the commands. at least you already have backports enabled, right?
[03:13] <dx11101> it should have come with a basic install of kde
[03:13] <malik> Jucato: any idea about a package which can automate the turning off of computer?
[03:13] <DonMCN> yes i do
[03:14] <Jucato> malik: sorry, no idea
[03:14] <sharpie05> hi all
[03:14] <Jucato> DonMCN: ok, then, in Konsole, run "sudo apt-get update" (equivalent to Fetch Updates in Adept)
[03:14] <sharpie05> i need help with video acceleration
[03:14] <sharpie05> on my ibook g4
[03:15] <dwidmann> malik: I would just use cron ...
[03:15] <lameriuga> could someone tell me how to save what i have changed in /etc/sysctl.conf, please
[03:15] <Jucato> DonMCN: tell me when it's done fetching the updates
[03:16] <DonMCN> ok
[03:16] <sharpie05> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[03:16] <sharpie05> what does this mean?
[03:16] <DonMCN> its getting them
[03:16] <DonMCN> its done it said
[03:16] <sharpie05> i get that after i type glxinfo | grep direct
[03:16] <DonMCN> ok its done, go ahead
[03:16] <Jucato> DonMCN: "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin"
[03:16] <malik> dwidmann: can u tell me whats the package full name is and how do u use it?
[03:17] <DonMCN> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:17] <DonMCN> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:17] <dwidmann> malik: cron is already installed, to use it, open a terminal and type "sudo crontab -e"
[03:17] <Jucato> DonMCN: er? is Adept closed?
[03:17] <dwidmann> donmcn: or is another apt using program running?
[03:17] <dwidmann> else
[03:18] <dwidmann> !adeptfix | DonMCN
[03:18] <ubotu> DonMCN: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:18] <DonMCN> ok i did
[03:18] <sharpie05> does anybody know what it means?: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x
[03:18] <sharpie05> 4b
[03:18] <Jucato> DonMCN: closed adept now? run the apt-get install command again
[03:19] <DonMCN> yay now its working
[03:19] <DonMCN> its downloading very slowly :(
[03:19] <DonMCN> 177kb/sec
[03:19] <Jucato> at least it's downloading :)
[03:19] <DonMCN> on windows it was really fast, lol
[03:19] <Jucato> well you're downloading from the Ubuntu repository, not from Java's site
[03:20] <DonMCN> ohh
[03:20] <DonMCN> so it may be a bit more busy
[03:20] <oslo> hi http://pastebin.com/884939
[03:20] <sharpie05> ?
[03:20] <oslo>  i can't get /etc/hosts.deny to work properly i'd like to block errorsafe.com, here my hosts.deny: http://pastebin.com/884939
[03:21] <oslo> does anyone could help ?
[03:21] <dwidmann> malik: as for the format of the file, it looks like this: minutes | hours | day of month | month | day of week | command, use an asterisk to represent all at the same time
[03:22] <dwidmann> (seperated by spaces)
[03:22] <kreator_> hola
[03:22] <DonMCN> thank you very much java 6 successfully installed
[03:22] <kreator_> nesecito ayuda
[03:22] <Jucato> great
[03:22] <kreator_> Help necesito ayuda
[03:22] <Jucato> english please
[03:22] <DonMCN> ay, yo hablo espanol
[03:23] <sharpie05> you guys are all busy :(
[03:23] <gnyffel> I've installed Kubuntu, but due to some issues with booting, I've made the disk I installed grub on master, was slave before, but now, every time I upgrade the kernel it seems to like to edit my menu.lst to root(1,0) and use hdb1 instead of root(0,0), hda1, as it should. How would I correct that?
[03:23] <vioscar> HOLAS A TODOS PUEDE DECIRME QUIEN SABE COMO LOCALIZAR MI DISCO DURO EN KUBUNTU?
[03:23] <Jucato> !es
[03:23] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:23] <dwidmann> sharpie: I looked .... I'm not busy, just clueless
[03:23] <sharpie05> hmmmm
[03:24] <sharpie05> well, it seems to kill all my open gl apps
[03:24] <lameriuga> Jucato: could you tell me how to save what i have changed in /etc/sysctl.conf, please
[03:24] <Jucato> lameriuga: sorry, no clue
[03:24] <sharpie05> i tried xgl on an earlier install and nothing displayed correctly
[03:24] <kreator_> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[03:24] <kreator_> help!
[03:24] <kreator_> help!
[03:24] <DonMCN> kreator, tu hablas espanol o ingles?
[03:25] <kreator_> espaol
[03:25] <Jucato> !es | kreator_
[03:25] <ubotu> kreator_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:25] <sharpie05> and i get an error on boot telling me something about allocating something on device 0
[03:25] <sharpie05> sorry for the vagueness ill have to reboot to get more specific
[03:25] <dwidmann> sharpie05: what video card/video drivers do you have/use?
[03:26] <DonMCN> me llamo tu en un mensaje ahora
[03:26] <kreator_> ola necesito ayuda para poder instalar amsn como lo puedo hacer ?
[03:26] <kreator_> ola necesito ayuda para poder instalar amsn como lo puedo hacer ?
[03:26] <Jucato> DonMCN: please guide him to one of the -es channels
[03:26] <DonMCN> ok
[03:27] <Jucato> DonMCN: and tell him that he can use Kopete for MSN :)
[03:27] <DonMCN> kreator, necesitas ir al #kubuntu-es canal para ayuda en espanol
[03:27] <kreator_> no hay gente
[03:28] <sharpie05> to dwidmann:  i have a radeon mobility 9550 and i am using the ati drivers
[03:28] <sharpie05> i get error when using the radeon drivers but the system identifies it as a radeon(fglrx)
[03:28] <DonMCN> que es un problemo? necesitas ir al #kubuntu-es canal para ayuda en espanol, lo siento. tu no puedas recibir ayuda en este canal
[03:29] <dwidmann> Hmm, so are you using the "ati", "radeon" (no, right?), or the "fglrx" driver.
[03:29] <DonMCN> este canal es ingles solomente
[03:29] <DonMCN> Jucato he wont listen to me, lol
[03:29] <DonMCN> He's ignorante
[03:29] <Jucato> heh
[03:30] <Jucato> or just stubborn...
[03:30] <DonMCN> El es ignorante! Ir al canal $Kubuntu-es
[03:30] <Jucato> no name calling please :)
[03:30] <DonMCN> sorry
[03:30] <DonMCN> im trying to get him to go
[03:30] <DonMCN> lol
[03:30] <DonMCN> yo hablo ingles, espanol y francias
[03:31] <soulrider> kreator_: para ayuda anda a #kubuntu-es
[03:31] <Jucato> wow multi-lingual :)
[03:31] <soulrider> yo te ayudo, pero en ESE canal!
[03:31] <sharpie05> im using the ati driver
[03:31] <DonMCN> este canal es ingles solomente, no espanol. para ayuda en espanol ir al #Kubuntu-es
[03:31] <sharpie05> i tested the fglrx radeon driver and it went into an endless cycle of fullscreen red green blue white gray black
[03:31] <dwidmann> sharpie05: give the fglrx drive a try and see how it works??
[03:31] <dwidmann> !ati
[03:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:32] <sharpie05> ?
[03:32] <soulrider> hes not answering.....
[03:32] <Jucato> DonMCN: anyway, he stopped asking in spanish already, so I guess it's ok now
[03:32] <sharpie05> im on a mac if it makes a diff
[03:32] <dwidmann> It may ....
[03:32] <DonMCN> good point Jucato lol
[03:32] <DonMCN> i must agree
[03:32] <Jucato> DonMCN: he's already in those channels
[03:32] <DonMCN> oh lol
[03:33] <DonMCN> do other people see those things i get that say DonMCN: he's already in those channels or only me?
[03:34] <Jucato> other people see it too. but you would see that line highlighted (in red by default in Konversation)
[03:34] <Jucato> "only you would see"
[03:35] <[Relic] > Is there a way to fix a borken install
[03:36] <x04ty29er> i think
[03:36] <x04ty29er> you just reinstall
[03:36] <x04ty29er> then it will redownload and install
[03:36] <x04ty29er> or
[03:36] <x04ty29er> you have to find all the dependent packages too
[03:36] <x04ty29er> and reinstall them too
[03:36] <dwidmann> [Relic] : always, enough skill and effort and most any problem can be fixed. It's just a matter of whether it's worth the time and effort to fix it as opposed to the time and effort required for the reinstall ...
[03:36] <x04ty29er> lol
[03:37] <x04ty29er> its really not that hard
[03:37] <x04ty29er> I think
[03:37] <sharpie05> i just installed it today
[03:37] <[Relic] > adept didn't warn me something would break and stop the process  :(
[03:37] <sharpie05> and i have reinstalled it many times previously with no luck
[03:37] <sharpie05> :/
[03:37] <x04ty29er> adept manager doesnt like installers that require an agreement
[03:37] <Adydas> Does x log if x loads but a setting you put in the conf dont work? im trying to do tv out and i have no errors but i also have no working tv out
[03:37] <x04ty29er> it is best to do it manually
[03:37] <dwidmann> come to think of it, I think fglrx may only be for radeon 9500's and higher
[03:38] <sharpie05> well
[03:38] <sharpie05> i am on a 9550
[03:38] <dwidmann> x04ty29er: seems that it does in feisty, IIRC
[03:38] <Jucato> Adydas: try looking in /var/log
[03:38] <x04ty29er> dwidmann: what are you talking about again\?
[03:38] <Jucato> x04ty29er: that has been fixed in feisty
[03:38] <dwidmann> x04ty29er: this, that, and the other most likely.
[03:38] <[Relic] > I need to remove 2 files but then that will remove about 455M of system stuff aka the base system, due to the stupid way this is set up, question is can I somehow log the pkgs that it wants to remove and reinstall them?
[03:39] <x04ty29er> oh ok
[03:39] <dwidmann> [Relic] : apt-get --reinstall install packages
[03:39] <Adydas> juncato for what?
[03:39] <Adydas> the logs have nothing
[03:40] <Adydas> other than my last fail before i got nvidia drivers working right
[03:40] <Jucato> [Relic] : dpkg keeps a log of its activities... but you'd have to know when you installed/removed packages so you can search for them. /var/log/dpkg.log or one of the archives
[03:40] <Jucato> Adydas: hm.. ok no idea...
[03:41] <[Relic] > I would do it as extracting both of the packages and the imediately reinstalling all the removed packages expect those 2, just not sure how to do it exactly so O don't screw things up further
[03:41] <mrkde> Anybody know how to install automatix2 for Kubuntu?
[03:41] <dwidmann> [Relic] : additionally, so long as it doesn't try to remove apt, it can be worthwhile to just let it remove them, regardless, and then reinstall the removed packages
[03:41] <[Relic] > dwidmann: can't tell what it wants to remove since it scrolls off the screen
[03:42] <Jucato> !automatix | mrkde
[03:42] <ubotu> mrkde: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:42] <Jucato> mrkde: might want to try going to the automatix channel
[03:42] <soulrider> !paste
[03:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:43] <[Relic] > dwidmann: can I force apt-get into a file via >> and then see the info?
[03:44] <will> I'm locked off my desktop.  I'm only on it since I modified my xorg.conf to use radeon drivers instead of FGLRX.  I have a radeon x700 and it was working great up untill 5 minutes ago.  How can I get back into my Desktop with fglrx drivers running?
[03:44] <Adydas> Should i take from my logfile this the tv outs working
[03:44] <Adydas> (--) NVIDIA(0):     AOC LM727 (CRT-0)
[03:44] <Adydas> (--) NVIDIA(0):     NVIDIA TV Encoder (TV-0)
[03:44] <Adydas> (--) NVIDIA(0): AOC LM727 (CRT-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[03:44] <Adydas> (--) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA TV Encoder (TV-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
[03:44] <dwidmann> [Relic] : sometimes I can manage to scroll with shift + pageup/pagedown
[03:44] <dwidmann> depends on the system and the keyboard I think
[03:45] <[Relic] > guess I try it, worse case scenario is I hve to reinstall everything anyway
[03:45] <[Relic] > back later, maybe
[03:45] <[Relic] > thanks for the info
[03:46] <will> I'm locked off my desktop.  I'm only on it since I modified my xorg.conf to use radeon drivers instead of FGLRX.  I have a radeon x700 and it was working great up untill 5 minutes ago.  How can I get back into my Desktop with fglrx drivers running?
[03:47] <[Relic] > how do I force x to start or attempt to start?
[03:48] <dwidmann> will: well, you could modify the xorg.conf again, could you not?
[03:48] <dwidmann> [Relic] : startx
[03:48] <[Relic] > thanks
[03:48] <will> dwidmann: Modify to what?  If I put it back to fglrx it crashes again
[03:48] <fanscore> !fr
[03:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:48] <dwidmann> will: then what works?
[03:49] <dwidmann> Maybe vesa?
[03:49] <stephans> has anyone done a pxe/unattended install of ubuntu?
[03:49] <will> dwidmann: That's not the problem.  Vesa crashes to,  "radeon" will run.  But FGLRX wont, and I need FGLRX since I use 3D extensivly and opensource doesn't cut it for them
[03:50] <stephans> I am trying to use kickstart
[03:52] <Adydas> If i use pastebin anyone want to check out my tvout / monitor settings see if ive made a silly booboo to stop it working?
[03:53] <Adydas> !paste
[03:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:53] <will> Alright I re depmodded, aticonfigged, etc etc.  Lets see if it works now
[03:54] <thecolorifix> ok, I'm a total irc AND linux n00b, anyone willing to help me install my soundblaster soundcard? or suggest a good tutorial/walkthrough?
[03:54] <thecolorifix> also, is this where I should be asking this?
[03:55] <thecolorifix> anyone?
[03:55] <soulrider> !ntfs
[03:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:55] <soulrider> !soundblaster
[03:55] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[03:56] <thecolorifix> thanks
[03:56] <Adydas> X11 Experts, Please check this out and let me know of any ovious muckups on my part, it works as in X still loads just no tv output screen avabile
[03:56] <Adydas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6659/
[03:56] <soulrider> !ntfs-3g
[03:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:57] <thecolorifix> ok, this is no help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[03:59] <fanscore> !fr
[03:59] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:59] <fakepatriot> !nvidia
[03:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:59] <thecolorifix> alright, I'm trying not to be a pest or anything, but this is kind of my last hope, so is there anyone willing to walk me through installing my soundblaster soundcard in kubuntu, or at least know of a good walkthrough online?
[04:01] <soulrider> thecolorifix: i dont ahve a card so i cant help you,a nd the channel is kinda quiet, have you tried the forums ?
[04:02] <thecolorifix> I have not, where are they located?
[04:02] <soulrider> http"//ubuntuforums.org
[04:04] <sidoti> algummm  brasileiro
[04:04] <Jucato> !br
[04:04] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[04:08] <nixternal> oslo: you still around?
[04:09] <BluesKaj> !soundblaster
[04:09] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[04:09] <oslo> nixternal> yes i am ?
[04:09] <oslo> i am !
[04:10] <oslo> nixternal> about hosts.deny ??
[04:10] <nixternal> ya
[04:10] <nixternal> is this ssh attacks?
[04:10] <oslo> could u help ?
[04:10] <oslo> i don't know
[04:10] <underdog5004> nixternal, what's happening, now?
[04:10] <nixternal> i.e., dictionary attacks trying to log in as different users
[04:11] <oslo> now the dns errorsafe.com can be pinged from my system.
[04:11] <BluesKaj> !soundblaster > thecolorifix
[04:11] <Toshibi> Someone getting attacked?
[04:12] <underdog5004> bummer...is your password a dictionary word (ie. not strong)?
[04:12] <oslo> yes by errorsafe.com when i'm webbrowsing
[04:12] <thecolorifix> ok, so after looking at the forums the card I have is an xfi which there is currently NO support for, however I have onboard sound on the asrock k7vm2 motherboard, anyone help with getting THAT to work?
[04:12] <Toshibi> Do you have a packet sniffer running?
[04:12] <Toshibi> Etherreal or something?
[04:12] <nixternal> nah, if you run a ssh server on the standard port 22 and it is open to the world, there are bots that will automically start trying to do so
[04:12] <nixternal> that is why it is recommended that you change your ssh port
[04:13] <oslo> is there someone about /etc/hosts.deny ?
[04:13] <oslo> does nixternal is a bot?
[04:13] <nixternal> oslo: my /etc/hosts.deny is blank, nothing there, since I moved my ports I don't get the attacks anymore
[04:13] <underdog5004> cool
[04:14] <oslo> nixternal> i just want to block teh dns : errorsafe.com .......;
[04:14] <Jucato> lol @ nixternal bot :)
[04:14] <oslo> ^^
[04:14] <Jucato> mine is blank too
[04:14] <nixternal> hehe
[04:15] <bkudria> i am trying to run a precompiled, old version of gcc (for a project, not under my control).  I've extracted the archive given to mee, and it contains 'gcc', a binary file with the executable bit set.  i try to run it with './gcc', but i get the error './gcc: no such file or directory' - what could be wrong?
[04:15] <SlackRat> is there any reason why certain threads in kubuntu forum dont have a reply button, to a dd a reply?
[04:15] <nixternal> oslo: putting errorsafe.com prevents errorsafe.com IP address from connecting to your computer, not you connecting to them
[04:15] <Jucato> bkudria: are you in the directory where that gcc executable is in?
[04:15] <bkudria> Jucato: yep
[04:15] <nixternal> chmod +x gcc
[04:15] <nixternal> ?
[04:15] <underdog5004> nixternal, lol, I have my port 22 on my router forwarded to my server with a REALLY strong password...from there I can ssh into any of my home computers.
[04:15] <dwidmann> SlackRat: well, some threads are locked
[04:15] <bkudria> yep, the executable bit is set
[04:16] <SlackRat> all topic icons seem to imply its not locked, just a normal topic
[04:16] <oslo> nixternal> so if i try to connect to them it's normal i can reach them ?
[04:16] <nixternal> underdog5004: ya, I have strong passwords as well, but if you don't enable or setup log rotation and don't have a seperate /var partition, it can fill up quickly
[04:16] <SlackRat> ah, it is old though....could that be why? its last summer under off topic....
[04:16] <nixternal> bot attacks on ssh will fill your /var/log/auth log fast as all hell
[04:17] <[Relic] > dwidmann, silly thing messed up the glx drivers which is why X wouldn't start  :)  all better now
[04:17] <underdog5004> uh...log rotation?
[04:17] <dwidmann> [Relic] : good to hear it :)
[04:17] <bkudria> nixternal: yep, the executable bit is set
[04:17] <underdog5004> can't you just disable logging...or have cron delete the logs at an interval?
[04:17] <dwidmann> I finally got around to fixing my refresh rate ten minutes ago myself :)
[04:17] <[Relic] > now if I could only find a 24 app clock  :)
[04:18] <nixternal> oslo: yes, if you add them in hosts.deny they can't connect to you, but you can connect to them
[04:18] <nixternal> hosts.deny blocks hosts coming in to your machine
[04:19] <underdog5004> ah...is that in /etc?
[04:20] <nixternal> /etc/hosts.deny
[04:20] <nixternal> err underdog5004, sorry, it is a bunch of different things actually
[04:20] <nixternal> google "linux log rotation" or possibly check the forums
[04:20] <nixternal> I think helpforge might have something on it as well
[04:21] <bkudria> i am trying to run a precompiled, old version of gcc (for a project, not under my control).  I've extracted the archive given to mee, and it contains 'gcc', a binary file with the executable bit set.  in the directory with the executable, i try to run it with './gcc', but i get the error './gcc: no such file or directory' - what could be wrong?  the executable bit/permission *is* set.
[04:21] <oslo> nixternal> how could deny the connection between me & them ?
[04:21] <underdog5004> gotcha...
[04:21] <oslo> *how could i
[04:21] <underdog5004> !nobody
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nobody - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <nixternal> oslo: hrmm, I really don't know w/o setting up a proxy and some sort of blocking app
[04:22] <oslo> its sux
[04:22] <oslo> :p
[04:27] <spawn57> all the files I'm creating in my ~ dir are umask 644, can I change it to 600?
[04:28] <dwidmann> bkudria: I've seen that problem before, but I can't remember what/if the fix was.
[04:28] <dwidmann> spawn57: you can
[04:29] <spawn57> found it, it's either login.defs, or bash_profile..which one should I do though =S
[04:29] <heri-wahyudianto> uilil
[04:29] <bkudria> dwidmann: well, if you remember, please let me know!
[04:33] <vegasmcpc> anybody in here familiar with raid?
[04:34] <dwidmann> bkudria: the thread I was thinking of didn't have a solution :(
[04:34] <ForgeAus> in kubuntu... not I...
[04:34] <bkudria> dwidmann: oh.  thanks anyway!
[04:34] <ForgeAus> !raid
[04:34] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:34] <dwidmann> I've played with RAID (both mdadm and dmraid) a few times before, didn't keep either in the end though.
[04:35] <ForgeAus> raids strength is also its greatest weakness...
[04:35] <ForgeAus> redundancy
[04:39] <vioscar> holas
[04:39] <vioscar> alguien aki habla espaol?
[04:40] <intelikey> !es
[04:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:41] <vegasmcpc> ok, i have the raid array set up, all i need to do is figure out how to mount it
[04:42] <dx11101> whats all this anti-linux freebsd crap im reading
[04:43] <stephans> has anyone on this channel used kickstart successfully in ubuntu??
[04:43] <Adydas> Any X11 experts here?
[04:43] <fakepatriot> can anyone tell me when flash and java are coming out for 64-bit firefox?
[04:44] <HymnToLife> Adydas, just ask, someone will answer if he/she knows
[04:44] <underdog5004> Adydas, I know I'm not!
[04:44] <dwidmann> fakepatriot: look into nspluginwrapper
[04:44] <Adydas> Is anything wrong with this conf, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6659/
[04:44] <dwidmann> I think you can find it in the janvitus repository ...
[04:44] <fakepatriot> !nspluginwrapper
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <fakepatriot> thanks dwid
[04:46] <dwidmann> I've even got nspluginwrapper working with Konqueror ... though I had to rebuild it with a patch to get that working
[04:47] <tun2> devilsadvocate are you there?
[04:47] <fakepatriot> sweet
[04:49] <intelikey> Adydas do you not need any monitor[0]  setup ?
[04:50] <Adydas> Im trying to run my TV out to my well tv
[04:51] <Adydas> it loads like i get X
[04:51] <Adydas> and no errors i can see from the logs
[04:51] <Adydas> but i just dont have a tv output
[04:51] <intelikey> Adydas scratch what i asked.  i see what you did there.
[04:52] <Adydas> have i missed somthing?
[04:52] <Adydas> it seems right according to following the !tvout help link
[04:52] <intelikey> Modes "400x600_60"  tall skinny ?
[04:53] <Adydas> it dont work at all
[04:54] <intelikey> Adydas i see three listed        InputDevice s    that are not defined.
[04:54] <slyfox> What do I need in order to open tar.zip file ? It opens fine in windows, but kubuntu gives me cannot open archive error  ?
[04:54] <Adydas> could i ask where?
[04:55] <intelikey> Section "ServerLayout"
[04:55] <ForgeAus> slyfox? ark should open it
[04:55] <Adydas>         Screen 0 "Screen[0] "
[04:55] <Adydas>         Screen 1 "Screen[1] " RightOf "Screen[0] "
[04:55] <ForgeAus> if not try an ncurses app midnight commander
[04:55] <HymnToLife> tar.zip ? Are you sure of that ?
[04:55] <fakepatriot> !wine
[04:55] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:55] <intelikey> three left over wacom devices.
[04:55] <intelikey>         InputDevice     "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
[04:55] <intelikey>         InputDevice     "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
[04:55] <intelikey>         InputDevice     "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
[04:55] <Adydas> I didnt add that, thats as per the installation
[04:55] <ForgeAus> good point Hymn, I didn't realize the extension normally its .tar.gz or .tar.z or .tar.bz2
[04:56] <ForgeAus> tar.zip is well unusual to say the least...
[04:56] <slyfox> ForgeAus: nope, I get - unable to open archive ?
[04:56] <HymnToLife> I guess he could just unzip it and see what that gives :p
[04:56] <ForgeAus> in winzip or oyur windows program is there only one file in the zip (a .tar file?)
[04:57] <slyfox> ForgeAus: let me see
[04:57] <intelikey> Adydas yes and not devined anymore.  i'm no X-pert there but that looks to me like begging for trubble.   also you didn't define any input devices.   mouse keyboard ....
[04:57] <Adydas> They work :p
[04:57] <ForgeAus> Hymn if it were unzippable why would it say it can't open the archive?
[04:57] <Adydas> all is 100%, bar i turn on tv and see nothing
[04:58] <HymnToLife> well, usually files ending with .zip are unzippable
[04:58] <HymnToLife> but I wonder where he got that file from
[04:58] <ForgeAus> agreed
[04:58] <stephans> has anyone on this channel used kickstart successfully in ubuntu??
[04:58] <HymnToLife> the source doesn't seem very reliable
[04:58] <ForgeAus> and what actual archive format it is
[04:58] <slyfox> ForgeAus: winrar in Windows sees it as  filename.tar    because it is a .zip file and it open it just fine
[04:58] <stephans> has anyone on this channel preeseeded an install for ubuntu??
[04:58] <ForgeAus> ok can you extract it with winrar to filename.tar somewhere?
[04:58] <cpk1> slyfox: do you have unzip installed?
[04:58] <slyfox> ForgeAus: in wINDOWS, LET ME SEE
[04:58] <ForgeAus> then use linux to open the .tar file
[04:58] <slyfox> cpk1: LET ME SEE
[04:59] <HymnToLife> slyfox, have you tried    unzip file.zip  from a terminal
[04:59] <slyfox> cpk1: yes
[04:59] <cpk1> linux should be able to deal with any type of archive
[04:59] <HymnToLife> cpk1, it is
[04:59] <cpk1> slyfox: what does file nameofarchive say?
[04:59] <ForgeAus> cpk1 SHOUDL but for some reason it doesn't like this particular one
[04:59] <max_> where is the setting for transparency of the K Menu?
[05:00] <slyfox> ForgeAus: slyfox.tar.zip   my firefox profile backup
[05:00] <intelikey> max_ right click and configure it
[05:00] <ForgeAus> good question max I don't actually know... possibly in configuring panels somewhere?
[05:00] <slyfox> ForgeAus: yes, it unzipped just fine in windows
[05:00] <HymnToLife> max_, Kcontrol > Appearance > Styles > "Effects" tab
[05:00] <ForgeAus> if it exists I'd expect it to be in appearance or theme settings somewhere
[05:00] <heri-wahyudianto> ijewrf[pijefjie iwpjfw
[05:00] <heri-wahyudianto> pl[pl\
[05:01] <slyfox> ForgeAus:
[05:01] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~$ unzip /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar
[05:01] <slyfox> Archive:  /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar.zip
[05:01] <HymnToLife> heri-wahyudianto, what was that ?
[05:01] <slyfox>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[05:01] <slyfox>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[05:01] <max_> HymnToLife: thanks, i can never rememeber where that is
[05:01] <slyfox>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[05:01] <slyfox>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[05:01] <slyfox> note:  /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar.zip may be a plain executable, not an archive
[05:01] <slyfox> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar or
[05:01] <slyfox>         /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar.zip, and cannot find /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar.ZIP, period.
[05:01] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~$
[05:01] <ForgeAus> wow nice!
[05:01] <cpk1> slyfox: file /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar to see if it says what kind archive it is
[05:02] <heri-wahyudianto> how to add IRC server
[05:02] <heri-wahyudianto> how to add IRC server?
[05:02] <intelikey> slyfox gunzip it
[05:02] <HymnToLife> heri-wahyudianto, depends on what client you use...
[05:02] <slyfox> cpk1: /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar: directory
[05:02] <slyfox> intelikey: how via gunzip /home/slyfox/Desktop/slyfox.tar    ?
[05:02] <cpk1> lol
[05:02] <heri-wahyudianto> I use Kubuntu konversation
[05:02] <HymnToLife> slyfox, can you cd to it ?
[05:03] <heri-wahyudianto> I use Kubuntu konversation
[05:03] <slyfox> HymnToLife: let me see
[05:03] <ForgeAus> me too
[05:03] <slyfox> HymnToLife: Yes I can
[05:03] <HymnToLife> and what do you have in there ?
[05:04] <slyfox> HymnToLife: what is the command to see what i have there ?
[05:04] <HymnToLife> ls
[05:04] <heri-wahyudianto> oo
[05:04] <slyfox> HymnToLife: gives me nothing
[05:04] <slyfox> HymnToLife:
[05:04] <ForgeAus> why does beryl switch my desktop to gnome-style?
[05:04] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$
[05:04] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$ ls
[05:04] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$ ls
[05:04] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$ ls
[05:04] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$ ls
[05:04] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~/Desktop/slyfox.tar$
[05:05] <slyfox> ForgeAus: did you install aquamarine for KDE ?
[05:05] <ForgeAus> yes
[05:05] <HymnToLife> ForgeAus, you need to tell beryl to use it then
[05:05] <slyfox> Did you set it to use aquamarine ?
[05:05] <ForgeAus> how do you do that?
[05:06] <HymnToLife> right click on the beryl icon in the systray
[05:06] <HymnToLife> it's somewhere in there
[05:06] <fakepatriot> can someone help me install Wine?
[05:06] <slyfox> ForgeAus: right click - window manager - aquamarine in beryl icon
[05:06] <ForgeAus> oh select window decoration?
[05:07] <slyfox> HymnToLife: so what do I do with my tar.zip file ?
[05:07] <HymnToLife> slyfox, I guess you'll have to extract it in windows
[05:07] <HymnToLife> or DCC it to me, I'll see what I can do with it
[05:07] <ForgeAus> slyfox I'm not sure its working
[05:08] <ForgeAus> I have a feeling its booting me back out of beryl when it loads
[05:08] <slyfox> ForgeAus: slect it and then choos reload window manager
[05:08] <slyfox> ForgeAus: #beryl is the best place to ask
[05:08] <ForgeAus> ok
[05:09] <intelikey> i can't fingre out why i can't install a printer...   i click add printer and the window gets this blank look on it's face and nothing else ever happens.
[05:09] <slyfox> HymnToLife: it is a big file 80 mg, let me see what else I can do here
[05:09] <cpk1> I have no experience with printers because mine automagically worked after the kde printer wizard
[05:11] <m4gnu5> Hello!  I'm a Linux n00b, and I'm having an issue with a device, specifically hda5, a logical drive I set up with ext3 filesystem.
[05:11] <lorderunion> hi. at random intervals kubuntu goes to a black screen and then prompts me to log back in. everything i was working on or had open is gone, and it reverts to the last session. i can't figure out what's going on. any idea as to what it might be?
[05:11] <intelikey> cpk1 i can't get to the kde printer wizard,  that's the thing.
[05:11] <cpk1> intelikey: =(
[05:11] <m4gnu5> I have no write permission to the drive, even after adding rwx for everyone, and adding root as group for my user account.
[05:12] <eean> m4gnu5: does root have write permission?
[05:12] <intelikey> m4gnu5 it's probably not a real file system.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> m4gnu5,  you normally dont set up a ext3/2 drive where Everyone can write to it.
[05:12] <m4gnu5> Yes, root has write permission.  brwx.
[05:12] <intelikey> thus has no permissions bit
[05:12] <Dr_willis> you could set up a directory on the drive.. that everyone has access to.
[05:13] <m4gnu5> I realize, but I'm new, and I decided to set it that way just to see if I could get it working...
[05:13] <eean> hehe good point Dr_willis
[05:13] <Dr_willis> make a dir.. and set the permissions on that. :)
[05:13] <m4gnu5> I can't create anything within the partition.
[05:13] <Dr_willis> i normally set up a spare hd called 'extraspace' and make each user a addational homedir in there.
[05:13] <m4gnu5> even as root.
[05:13] <eean> ...
[05:13] <Dr_willis> m4gnu5,  you got bigger issues then if root cant do things.
[05:13] <m4gnu5> It's 61GB in size.
[05:13] <eean> yea this ain't no permission issue :)
[05:14] <Dr_willis> for a start check the 'mount' command see where/what the drive is mounted as.
[05:14] <m4gnu5> It was an ntfs partition, so I used fdisk to delete it, and created an ext3 partition.
[05:14] <eean> grep hda /etc/fstab
[05:14] <eean> grep hda5 /etc/fstab
[05:14] <intelikey> m4gnu5 in konsole type; mount    and copy/paste the output to http://pastebin.ca  then bring us the url
[05:14] <m4gnu5> The dribe is, of course at location /dev/hda5, and is mounted at /media/hda5.
[05:15] <m4gnu5> okay, hang on.
[05:15] <Dr_willis> example --->  /dev/hde1 on /media/hde1 type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[05:15] <Dr_willis> note the (rw) part
[05:16] <Dr_willis> if you just got a (r) then it may be read only
[05:16] <intelikey> nosuid    catchy
[05:16] <m4gnu5> http://pastebin.ca/364439
[05:17] <intelikey>    12. /dev/hdc5 on /media/hdc5 type ntfs
[05:17] <intelikey> there's your problem.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> yep.. i was about to say that
[05:17] <m4gnu5> I've also checked fstab.  It looks odd, but I'm so new, I'm not sure.
[05:17] <lorderunion> hi. at random intervals kubuntu goes to a black screen and then prompts me to log back in. everything i was working on or had open is gone, and it reverts to the last session. i can't figure out what's going on. any idea as to what it might be?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> its not a ext2/3 drive :) its a windows ntfs drive
[05:17] <m4gnu5> hdc is my second physical drive . . . I'm talking about hda5
[05:18] <intelikey>    14. /dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type ext3 (rw)
[05:18] <intelikey> too quick ?
[05:18] <m4gnu5> Too quick?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> i though he said hdc earlier..
[05:18] <intelikey> sudo chmod 777 /media/hda5
[05:18] <m4gnu5> hold on
[05:19] <m4gnu5> brwxrwxrwx 1 root disk 3, 5 2007-02-19 21:46 /dev/hda5
[05:19] <m4gnu5> That's the drive permisions as they stand.
[05:19] <intelikey> no it's not.
[05:19] <m4gnu5> ?
[05:19] <intelikey> that's the device node permissions
[05:19] <m4gnu5> Okay . . .
[05:20] <intelikey> sudo chmod 777 /media/hda5
[05:20] <m4gnu5> Should I use thew sudo chmod command as instructed?
[05:20] <m4gnu5> okay...
[05:20] <intelikey> as normal user do;                                               mkdir /media/hda5/this\ is\ a\ test
[05:20] <m4gnu5> Okay, done.
[05:21] <m4gnu5> Okay . . .  hold on
[05:22] <kristjan_> I got so far that I downloaded kiso.debdiff; now trying "debdiff apply ./kiso.debdiff" gets error "./kiso.debdiff does not exist."
[05:22] <m4gnu5> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/hda5/this is a test': Permission denied
[05:22] <kristjan_> *dpatch status ./kiso.debdiff*
[05:23] <intelikey> ls -ld /media/hda5
[05:23] <m4gnu5> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-02-19 20:05 /media/hda5
[05:23] <yuriy> kristjan_ you don't need the ./ unless you're running a script or something
[05:23] <m4gnu5> I see that there isn't w in two places there./
[05:24] <intelikey> you didn't chmod it.
[05:24] <m4gnu5> Yes, I did.  But I will again.  I was root already, so I skipped the sudo command.  Was that okay?
[05:24] <kristjan_> yuriy: even with correct path "dpatch status /home/kristjan/varia/kiso.debdiff" I get "/home/kristjan/varia/kiso.debdiff does not exist."
[05:24] <lorderunion> hi. at random intervals kubuntu goes to a black screen and then prompts me to log back in. everything i was working on or had open is gone, and it reverts to the last session. i can't figure out what's going on. any idea as to what it might be?
[05:24] <intelikey> yeah if you're root you're root.
[05:25] <m4gnu5> This time I did it from my user account, and entered the root passwd when prompted.
[05:26] <intelikey> root password ?
[05:26] <m4gnu5> create the file again?
[05:26] <intelikey> sudo doesn't ask for a root password
[05:26] <m4gnu5> It did me.
[05:26] <intelikey> it asks for your password
[05:26] <m4gnu5> I was no longer root.
[05:26] <kristjan_> can anyone apply debdiff given here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kiso/+bug/75908 - if you succeed, then please let me now
[05:26] <HymnToLife> m4gnu5, nope, it asks for _your_ password
[05:26] <Kite_DH> can somebody help me get my "Lexmark 1200 Series" Printer to work?
[05:26] <intelikey> sudo doesn't ask for the root password.
[05:26] <m4gnu5> Right now I use the same password as root . . .
[05:27] <m4gnu5> Sorry.  Confusing.
[05:27] <eean> lol
[05:27] <intelikey> it's still your password.
[05:27] <m4gnu5> Yes.
[05:27] <eean> by default ubuntu doesn't have a root password
[05:27] <intelikey> yes test it.
[05:27] <spitwise> user passwd will give root privs w/ sido
[05:27] <intelikey> or ls it again
[05:27] <m4gnu5> No I set it up.
[05:27] <spitwise> sudo even
[05:28] <yuriy> Kite_DH: what happens when you go to the printer settings and try to set it up?
[05:28] <m4gnu5> Anyway, I wasn't su, and when I typed sudo etc . . . it asked for a passwd.
[05:28] <monsterb_> Kite_DH do u have cups installed?
[05:28] <lorderunion> hi. at random intervals kubuntu goes to a black screen and then prompts me to log back in. everything i was working on or had open is gone, and it reverts to the last session. i can't figure out what's going on. any idea as to what it might be?
[05:28] <Kite_DH> yuriy: when i try to print, nothing comes out, then i check printjobs and theres nothing
[05:28] <Kite_DH> yuriy: somebody here said to make it on "rawr file"
[05:29] <intelikey> i setup my /etc/sudoers      ALL     ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD :ALL
[05:29] <yuriy> Kite_DH: have you set up the printer in system settings?
[05:29] <eean> lorderunion: if that happened to me I'd be worried about hardward trouble >.<
[05:29] <m4gnu5> Now, do I:  mkdir /media/hda5/this\ is\ a\ test
[05:29] <lorderunion> any way to test if it is hardware?
[05:29] <Kite_DH> yuriy: not really, i just set it on raw file
[05:29] <intelikey> m4gnu5 or ls -ld /media/hda5
[05:29] <monsterb_> kite_DH goto cups website and use online setup program in your web browser ---> http://localhost:631/   u need root/password
[05:29] <intelikey> either one should tell you if it took
[05:29] <yuriy> lorderunion: you could run memtest to see if it's memory errors. it should be in your grub menu on boot.
[05:30] <eean> lorderunion: well reboot and run memtest the next time you go to bed, couldn't hurt. though if it was hardware trouble it probably be your video card
[05:30] <Kite_DH> monsterb_: explain that please
[05:30] <m4gnu5> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2007-02-19 20:05 /media/hda5
[05:30] <m4gnu5> OKAY!  Looks like write permission.
[05:30] <intelikey> ok you can do what you want there now m4gnu5
[05:30] <lorderunion> my video card worked a few weeks ago on my old system w/o troubles
[05:30] <yuriy> monsterb_: does he really need to do that? kdeprint doesn't work for lexmark or sthing?
[05:30] <Kite_DH> yuriy: there are many lexmark models in kdeprint, but mine
[05:30] <gugu^> can someone help me to configure Local network
[05:30] <yuriy> Kite_DH: have you tried a similar one maybe?
[05:30] <m4gnu5> Thank you, Intelikey.  And will this be persistent?  ie:  won't have to do this after every boot?
[05:31] <yuriy> Kite_DH: what is yours?
[05:31] <intelikey> anytime
[05:31] <m4gnu5> Or do I need to edit fstab?
[05:31] <Kite_DH> yuriy: Lexmark 1200 Series
[05:31] <intelikey> m4gnu5 and yes it's real permissions you set.
[05:31] <m4gnu5> They're perminent until I change them?  Sweet!
[05:32] <intelikey> yep
[05:32] <osiris> anyone here able to play .wav files or mp3 files for system sounds ?  Does it just support .ogg's ?
[05:32] <monsterb_>  yuriy - IMO i think cups website setup is easier - Lexmark are tricky printers to get working - is the 1200 listed?
[05:32] <Kite_DH> yuriy: its with a scanner on it too
[05:32] <m4gnu5> Thank you again.  Like I said, I'm a n00b.  Ben with MSDOS since v2.1, then all the flavors of Windows up to XP Pro.  I just
[05:32] <m4gnu5> made the switch.
[05:33] <m4gnu5> So far I like Kubuntu 6.10 the best . . .
[05:33] <m4gnu5> Though I like Knoppix, but they say they don't recommend installing it perm.
[05:33] <intelikey> m4gnu5 but be advised.  anyone withaccess to that box can do anything they want on that disk.   they don't have to own nor even have permissions on files/dirs to rm them.
[05:34] <yuriy> Kite_DH, monsterb_: i see the 1100 listed, that might be the same driver
[05:34] <eean> intelikey: dude thats true anyways, they just have to boot into another operating system or single user mode
[05:34] <Kite_DH> yuriy: what if not? :(
[05:34] <m4gnu5> I do realize that.  I will work on securing it better.
[05:34] <intelikey> eean i didn't say local access.
[05:34] <yuriy> monsterb_: of course if you have experience with lexmark/cups website setup please explain it to Kite_DH :)
[05:34] <intelikey> eean any access
[05:34] <eean> I normally don't hand out access to my desktop system ;)
[05:34] <yuriy> Kite_DH: i found this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714&highlight=X1150.
[05:35] <monsterb_> Kite_DH if it's wrong driver u will just waste ink on test page - thats all
[05:35] <intelikey> now who want's to walk me through setting up a printer ?
[05:36] <yuriy> !printer
[05:36] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:36] <intelikey> it don't work yuriy
[05:36] <Kite_DH> yuriy: im gonna try it
[05:37] <monsterb_> kite_DH network printer?
[05:37] <yuriy> intelikey: what don't? and sry about those links, that wasn't quite what i was hoping it would give
[05:37] <intelikey> yuriy add printer wizard
[05:38] <yuriy> oh
[05:38] <yuriy> how so?
[05:38] <Kite_DH> monsterb_: no idea
[05:38] <ForgeAus> why doesn't my kget work anymore?
[05:38] <yuriy> intelikey: what printer and what error do you get if any?
[05:38] <ForgeAus>  it opens a window lets me set where to put the file, etc has an entry for the file, just doesn't seem to connect or put any data in the file!
[05:38] <intelikey> when i click add printer the window just goes blank
[05:39] <intelikey> that's all.   nothing more.
[05:39] <yuriy> intelikey: no error message at all? eek.
[05:39] <yuriy> intelikey: what version of ubuntu?
[05:39] <intelikey> 6.6
[05:39] <Dr_willis> egads! its so old it has vericose veins.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> ok.. not really
[05:40] <gugu^> can someone help me to configure Local network
[05:40] <Kite_DH> yuriy: doesnt work...
[05:40] <m4gnu5> lmao
[05:40] <m4gnu5> vericose veins . . .
[05:40] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  care to clarify the question?
[05:40] <m4gnu5> I just got it.
[05:40] <yuriy> intelikey: try going to a konsole and typing kcmshell printers
[05:40] <intelikey> yuriy also if i go to  127.0.0.1:631   i get the cups page but nothing in the page will work.
[05:40] <fakepatriot> can someone tell me why Wine isn't showing up after i install it? i am running kubuntu edgy on AMD64.
[05:40] <yuriy> then go to add and see if you get any errors in konsole
[05:40] <m4gnu5> Me too fakepatriot.
[05:41] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,   because it really dosen run by itself.. install some app with it (wine whatever.exe) and it 'should' make an icon
[05:41] <gugu^> Dr_willis: How to setup Linux as a router for DSL
[05:41] <yuriy> intelikey: have you tried administrator mode in the control module or have you put in your password for the cups page?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  you got linux connected by dsl to the internet now?
[05:41] <gugu^> yes
[05:42] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  you got a 2nd network for the linux box?
[05:42] <gugu^> yes
[05:42] <Dr_willis> heh.. i 'think' what you want to check out is the ip-masquerading feature.. but its been ages sincve ive messed with it.
[05:42] <intelikey> yuriy ok.  got error out of that.   "cant find module printer"
[05:42] <fakepatriot> sorry..i am kinda new at this...what does that mean exactly?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  what does what mean?
[05:42] <gugu^> eth0 - for internet,  eth1 for local network
[05:43] <Dr_willis> wine - isent a app you just 'run' you run it to run a windows binary
[05:43] <monsterb_> yuriy i tried it and works great :)
[05:43] <fakepatriot> "wine_0.9.31~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10-1_i386.deb"
[05:43] <fakepatriot> oops
[05:43] <intelikey> yuriy oh wait.
[05:43] <Admiral_Chicago> 
[05:43] <fakepatriot> wrong paste
[05:43] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  i dident think wine worked on the 64bit disrto either...
[05:43] <intelikey> yuriy my bad.   ok that just brings me right back to the kcontrol window for printers.
[05:44] <intelikey> yuriy and clicking add just blanks the window
[05:44] <fakepatriot> well i follwed some instructions from the website that apparently make it work...but since ive never use Wine before i don't know if they worked or how to run Wine...
[05:44] <gugu^> Dr_willis: I found in internet how to do this, but I`m not understanding 2 steps
[05:44] <Kite_DH> yuriy: this sucks :(...still cant print
[05:45] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  its such a common task there may be some trivialy easy way to enable it  :) but i got a linksys router i use instead.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  whats the part ya dont get?
[05:45] <m4gnu5> Hey Intelikey . . .
[05:45] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  download some windows binary.. and from the shell use 'wine whatever.exe'
[05:45] <intelikey> yuriy    did you run hide ?
[05:45] <intelikey> hey m4gnu5
[05:46] <gugu^> Dr_willis: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-as-router-for-dsl-t1-line-etc.html
[05:46] <gugu^> Dr_willis: Sptep5 and 6
[05:46] <yuriy> Kite_DH: have you tried what monsterb_ was saying? kite_DH goto cups website and use online setup program in your web browser ---> http://localhost:631/   u need root/password
[05:46] <monsterb_> Kite_DH did u try cups website? Pretty easy http://localhost:631/ - just login with your root/password - if your printer is plugged in and turned on, it will find it.
  Just wondering.  Why is hda5's color blue with green background when my other drives are blue with black background color?
[05:46] <yuriy> intelikey: all updates installed? what version of KDE?
[05:47] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  you want to set the other machines on the lan to use the linux box as their gateway machine
[05:47] <fakepatriot> oh ok i think i get it now..i'll try thanks for the help...
[05:47] <m4gnu5> Is it important?
[05:47] <intelikey> yuriy all updates that the standard repos present
[05:47] <gugu^> i`m usin kubuntu on all machines
[05:47] <intelikey> m4gnu5 permsiision probably
[05:47] <intelikey> permissions
[05:48] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  so confiure the network on the machines to use the first linux box as their gateway
[05:48] <cpk1> gugu^: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[05:48] <m4gnu5> I thought maybe, but wanted to ask.  Thank you for taking time to answer my questions, my friend.
[05:48] <intelikey> m4gnu5 where are you seeing this colour ?
[05:48] <Kite_DH> monsterb_: KDEPrint made it with CUPS too...didnt work out
[05:48] <gugu^> Dr_willis: and I, whant to internet on them (its for an internet cafe)
[05:48] <intelikey> m4gnu5 from the ls command ?
[05:48] <m4gnu5> In terminal/console...
[05:48] <intelikey> yeah that will be perm tripping that.
[05:49] <gugu^> Dr_willis: How
[05:49] <gugu^> :)
[05:49] <m4gnu5> Sorry, konsole.
[05:49] <yuriy> intelikey: shot in the dark, but upgrading to kde 3.5.5 from kubuntu.org _might_ help
[05:49] <m4gnu5> Okay.  Groovy.
[05:49] <Dr_willis> gugu^,  yes...  that makes sence...  you use the network confifguration tools to SET THE other machiens 'gateway' to the ip of the 'routerbox'
[05:49] <gugu^> cpk1: i have tried, and it`s not working
[05:49] <cpk1> gugu^: from the machine that is connected to the internet run this iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[05:49] <Dr_willis> !masquerade
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about masquerade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <cpk1> gugu^: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward needs to say 1 not 0
[05:49] <Dr_willis> i wonder if thers a ubuntu specific guide for this.
[05:50] <intelikey> yuriy i really don't want to corrupt this installation    it's 100% apt getable  no forign repos.
[05:51] <cpk1> Dr_willis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyWirelessToWiredConnectionSharing that? it is basically the same if you have 2 wired connections
[05:51] <intelikey> that way when packages break i can bitch all i want about it.   cause i know it's not something i added.
[05:52] <cpk1> gugu^: still with me?
[05:52] <gugu^> cpk1: yes
[05:52] <monsterb_> Kite_DH your printer a Lexmark Optra Color 1200?
[05:52] <cpk1> gugu^: did you check  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:53] <gugu^> no
[05:54] <cpk1> gugu^: edit /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and change the 0 to 1
[05:54] <gugu^> cpk1:  I must write something at the begining /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:54] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, ok i tried but nothing happens...also if i try to run a '.exe' file by clicking on it i get an error message that says "KDEInit could not launch 'wine'"
[05:54] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  dont click.. use the shell
[05:54] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  you did install wine allready?
[05:54] <cpk1> gugu^: kdesu kate /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:54] <fakepatriot> lqtm, yes
[05:54] <gugu^> cpk1: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:55] <gugu^> cpk1:  no write permission for file "/prc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[05:55] <Dr_willis> you normally echo to that file.. the 'ip-masquerading howto' has lots of good info on this.
[05:56] <gugu^> cpk1: kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[05:56] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, i did 'kdesu wine Steaminstall.exe'
[05:56] <cpk1> gugu^: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:57] <gugu^> cpk1: its working
[05:57] <cpk1> gugu^: the network is?
[05:57] <gugu^> cpk1: no
[05:58] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  why not try somthing SIMPLE.. and you dont need to 'kdesu' it...
[05:58] <gugu^> cpk1: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[05:58] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  go download some simple windows game.. or find sol.exe
[05:58] <cpk1> gugu^: if you have also done the MASQUERADE command then the boxes should be able to go outside now
[05:59] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, ok i am gonna try to run a quake III demo i have installed on my flash drive...
[05:59] <x04ty29er_> am i disconnected?
[05:59] <x04ty29er_> apparently not
[05:59] <intelikey> well i found one of my problems   lo   was down   was keeping me from using a browser to access cups   but i still have the same error there.  clicking any link/button in the cups page does nothing.
[05:59] <gugu^> cpk1: what do you mean
[05:59] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  quake has native linux ports.. :)
[05:59] <cpk1> gugu^: the other computers connected to that one should be able to access the internet now
[05:59] <intelikey> x04ty29er_ yes you are disconnected now.   we can't see you.
[06:00] <x04ty29er_> lol
[06:00] <ala> anyone know how to add a directory to the system wide path?
[06:00] <x04ty29er_> im not an idiot
[06:00] <intelikey> :)
[06:00] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, oh...heh
[06:00] <intelikey> ?
[06:00] <x04ty29er_> lol
[06:00] <x04ty29er_> i saw other people say stuff
[06:00] <Dr_willis> ala,  thers some /etc/bashrc or similer files you can define the default PATH
[06:00] <x04ty29er_> and realized
[06:00] <x04ty29er_> that i was still connected
[06:00] <HymnToLife> ala, yep, edit the relevant line in /etc/bashrc
[06:01] <Dr_willis> ala,  better to just edit the users .bashrc or .bash_profile
[06:01] <gugu^> cpk1: it`s not working
[06:01] <intelikey> x04ty29er_ if you want a test that doesn't tell us that you are wondering try pinging your nick
[06:01] <cpk1> gugu^: see if one of the other computers can connect to this ip 64.233.187.99 (that's google)
[06:01] <x04ty29er> hm
[06:01] <x04ty29er> i guess so
[06:02] <x04ty29er> but
[06:02] <x04ty29er> this is faster
[06:02] <intelikey> that only you and the guy that pings you sees what's going on.
[06:02] <x04ty29er> hm
[06:02] <x04ty29er> i might next time
[06:02] <intelikey> /ping x04ty29er_
[06:02] <intelikey> am i disconnected?
[06:03] <intelikey> looks like less typing to ping yourself
[06:03] <x04ty29er> hm
[06:03] <x04ty29er> more thinking
[06:03] <gugu^> cpk1: i`m sorry, but no
[06:03] <soulrider> !beryl
[06:03] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:03] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, well that didnt work...am i supposed to trying to install stuff or run '.exe' files?
[06:04] <cpk1> gugu^: and these can all ping the main computer that is doing the networking?
[06:06] <nomad111> hey all i have a dell inspiron 6400/e1505 which has a ricoh sd/mmc card reader, the problem is that when i put the card in its not getting detected
[06:06] <nomad111> i cant see the card reader in /media
[06:06] <Kite_DH> monsterb_: no, its a Lexmark 1200 Series
[06:07] <nomad111> does any1 kno a solution
[06:07] <Kite_DH> monsterb_: it has a scanner at the top
[06:07] <fakepatriot> nomad111, is the card reader plugged in?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  you install wine..  if its installed then 'wine' from the shell will run wine.. you normally use wine to run a windows binary for example to run sol.exe you would use 'wine sol.exe'
[06:07] <nomad111> fakepatriot: its inbuilt into the laptop
[06:08] <gugu^> cpk1: "The network is unreachable"
[06:08] <fakepatriot> nomad111, oh then i have no clue...try !card reader
[06:08] <fakepatriot> !card reader
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about card reader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <fakepatriot> curse you ubotu!
[06:08] <cpk1> gugu^: ok so lets say box1 is the computer connected to the modem and box2 and box3 are the computers connected to box1
[06:09] <Dr_willis> The media-card-reader in my laptop is not supported by linux at this time. :( sadly
[06:09] <cpk1> gugu^: box2 cant ping box1?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> but a $5 usb media reader works fine.
[06:09] <gugu^> cpk1: no they can`t
[06:10] <cpk1> gugu^: ok on box1 is eth1 configured?
[06:10] <ala> this is the relevant part in my .bash_profile
[06:11] <ala> # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
[06:11] <ala> if [ -d ~/bin ]  ; then
[06:11] <ala>     PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[06:11] <ala>     PATH=/usr/local/binpy:"${PATH}"
[06:11] <ala> fi
[06:11] <ala> i added the part about binpy...
[06:11] <underdog5004> !paste
[06:11] <ala> is it correct?
[06:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:11] <gugu^> cpk1:  it`s configured with windows server, but now is kubuntu server
[06:11] <cpk1> gugu^: huh?
[06:11] <gugu^> cpk1:  :)
[06:11] <intelikey> ok i'm getting an error now.   at least that's something to work with.      when i click the    print server > configure server       i get "Unable to configure print server. Error message received from manager:  \n   Unable to retrieve configuration file from the CUPS server. You probably don't have the access permissions to perform this operation."
[06:11] <cpk1> gugu^: box1 is running linux correct?
[06:12] <intelikey> so avoiding the obvious.   what would that mean ?
[06:12] <gugu^> cpk1:  yes
[06:12] <jbruckman> so, i'm getting an error with my modules. It says there is an orphane dmodule or something? I'm trying to change some system settings, and I can't. Can someone help me figure out what's wrong, and fix it?
[06:13] <cpk1> gugu^: alright so is eth1 configured? what does ifconfig say its ip is?
[06:13] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, ok well i tried 'wine' by itself and it gave me the same error message as when i clicked on '.exe' files...i suppose i will just try to reinstall...or should i just give up?
[06:15] <Forge> hmm how do I set my samba computername and workgroup in kubuntu
[06:15] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,   what error?
[06:16] <Forge> brb
[06:16] <gugu^> cpk1: there is no ip in ifconfig
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Forge,  edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:17] <ForgeAus> back
[06:17] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, "KDEInit could not launch 'wine'"
[06:17] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  not from 'clicking' what happens if you type 'wine' in a terminal?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  you did install wine dident you?
[06:18] <nomad111> does any1 kno a good c ide
[06:18] <nomad111> ansi c
[06:18] <Dr_willis> emacs :)
[06:19] <nomad111> does it have auto complete
[06:19] <nomad111> and syntax highlighting
[06:19] <Dr_willis> emacs has everything.. :)
[06:19] <nomad111> even a compiler?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> its hardcore
[06:19] <nomad111> thats news to me
[06:19] <Dr_willis> all its lacking is a decent text editor. :)
[06:20] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, that is the error it gave me when i typed just 'wine' by itself...yes i did install it as far as i know...like three times over too
[06:20] <cpk1> gugu^: alright do sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.27.1
[06:21] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  how did you install wine?   its not that hard to use...  and i dont see why running wine from a shell would give 'KDEInit could not launch 'wine''
[06:21] <gugu^> cpk1:  at the server or to other comp
[06:22] <cpk1> gugu^: box1
[06:23] <gugu^> cpk1: ok
[06:23] <cpk1> gugu^: alright now would you like to use a dhcp server?
[06:23] <gugu^> cpk1: yes,
[06:23] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, i followed these instructions http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb and http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64 ...again, i am running kubuntu edgy AMD64...also i apologize if i am frustrating you...
[06:24] <nomad111> Dr_willis: the interface for emacs is ancient
[06:24] <cpk1> gugu^: alright so install dhcp using whatever apt tool you like
[06:24] <Chicory> Argh.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  no idea on the amd64 stuff.. its possible that wine for amd64 is still flakey. I dont bother with the 64bit disrtos.
[06:25] <gugu^> cpk1: sudo apt-get install dhcpd       this is ok?
[06:25] <cpk1> gugu^: yes, but iirc it will tell you to install dhcp
[06:25] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  its highly possible wine is not installed correctly.
[06:26] <apallo> how do i upgrade my kubuntu install to the latest version without reinstalling?
[06:26] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, well how can i make sure that it is installed correctly?
[06:26] <apallo> i realize that this is prolly a noob question, but i don't know where to start
[06:26] <Adydas> sude apt-get upgrade
[06:26] <gugu^> cpk1: ok,
[06:27] <cpk1> gugu^: its installed?
[06:27] <apallo> that just upgrades the packages for this version i thought?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  no idea.. i dont mess with the 64bit disrtos.. i advise against using them.. theres not a lot to gain.. and a lot of issues to fight with.
[06:27] <cpk1> apallo: are you on dapper or edgy?
[06:27] <fakepatriot> apallo, sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[06:27] <gugu^> cpk1:  yes, but its faild to start
[06:27] <apallo> dapper
[06:27] <cpk1> gugu^: thats expected since its not configured =)
[06:27] <cpk1> !upgrade | apallo
[06:27] <ubotu> apallo: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:28] <apallo> thanks
[06:28] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, unfortunately for me this is my only box until i can afford to build my own...
[06:28] <gugu^> cpk1: :)
[06:28] <cpk1> gugu^: kdesu kate /etc/dhcpd.conf
[06:28] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  you dont need to run the 64bit disrtos on a 64bit machine.. they can run the 32bit disrto just fine.
[06:30] <gugu^> cpk1: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server, Xlib: No protocol specified, kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:30] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, are you serious!? christ! all this time!? i should've guessed...stuff like this always happens to me....damnit..well at least i know now
[06:30] <cpk1> gugu^: if you simply comment out everything and add this into it that should work, or you can find the lines that you should change and change those values http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6671/
[06:30] <cpk1> gugu^: you know how to use nano?
[06:31] <gugu^> cpk1:  nope :(
[06:31] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  ugh.. yes.. :) i never use the 64bit disrtos... i was THINKING you may of not realized that..
[06:31] <cpk1> gugu^: you get to learn, its really easy =D
[06:31] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  think about it.. they run the 32bit version of windows and even dos just fine.
[06:31] <apallo> it's telling me that 0 packages were upgraded
[06:31] <cpk1> gugu^: sudo nano /etc/dhcpd.conf
[06:32] <gugu^> cpk1: i know
[06:32] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, so is there any advantages to running 64-bit?
[06:32] <gugu^> cpk1: I must learn
[06:32] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  in some special cases - yes.. but for most people.. no.
[06:32] <apallo> !ubotu finding kubuntu version
[06:32] <Dr_willis> fakepatriot,  i imagine in a year or so the 64bit stuff will get much better
[06:32] <Dr_willis> its allredy gotten a lot better then it used to be
[06:33] <Admiral_Chicago> very true
[06:33] <cpk1> gugu^: so either comment out everything and add what is in my pastebin at the bottom or edit that file accordingly
[06:33] <fakepatriot> Dr_willis, hopefully....well i suppose i am off to get a 32-bit kubuntu....thanks for the help Doc
[06:34] <Adydas> Anything wrong with this, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6659/ why wont it work for the TV
[06:35] <slyfox> Problem - laptop - brigthness control - evey time I set a brigthness to be lower than maximum, when I relogin, it holds the brigthness as I set it for first 2 seconds and then switches back to maximum ? How do I fix this ?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> "Within only a few days of Dell opening a new customer feedback website, they discovered that the feature most requested (by an almost 2-to-1 margin!) is an option on all new Dell PCs: pre-installed Linux.
[06:38] <gugu^> cpk1: And how I save this
[06:38] <cpk1> gugu^: ^O means ctrl shift o
[06:38] <makuseru> hi, when i do an "apt-get update" i get these errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6672/ how can i resolve this
[06:38] <cpk1> gugu^: ^ means ctrl and thats a capital o =)
[06:39] <Adydas> makuseru: it looks like a key error
[06:39] <Adydas> you have to install a key, hopefully somone else can help more..
[06:40] <Dr_willis> thats weird that the keys for those sites are not there allready
[06:40] <makuseru> all i did was uncomment universe and multi universe
[06:40] <makuseru> you dont need keys for that do you
[06:41] <Dr_willis> you may want to paste your whole sources.list ,  for us to check out
[06:41] <Dr_willis> perhaps some funky weird typo. ive never seen messages like those befor
[06:41] <slyfox> Problem - laptop - brigthness control - evey time I set a brigthness to be lower than maximum, when I relogin, it holds the brigthness as I set it for first 2 seconds and then switches back to maximum ? How do I fix this ?
[06:42] <makuseru> alright, just a sec Dr_Willis
[06:43] <gugu^> cpk1: :), thx
[06:43] <gugu^> cpk1: but is not working :)
[06:44] <ForgeAus> hmmm I can browse and find folders and files on samba using smb:// easily enough but how do I access Kubuntu shared files from the other end?
[06:44] <ForgeAus> where do you set the computername and workgroup?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  in the samba config file is where i set them
[06:45] <Dr_willis> but im hardkore and like editing the files directly :)
[06:45] <ForgeAus> theres an /etc/samba.conf?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> theres a lot of samba config files..
[06:45] <Dr_willis> i pasted its location earlier i thouight
[06:45] <cpk1> gugu^: sudo nano /etc/default/dhcp and only have this INTERFACES="eth1" (you can leave all the stuff that is commented out there)
[06:45] <Dr_willis>  - /etc/samba/*
[06:45] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  the 'using samba' book is installable also as a package - so you can have it locally.
[06:45] <makuseru> Dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/885034
[06:47] <Dr_willis> makuseru,   #AUTOMATIX REPOS START
[06:47] <Dr_willis> i would say # comment out EVERYTHING that automatix added
[06:47] <makuseru> then how else can i get win32codecs? and other multamedia codecs
[06:47] <mefisto__> what's the website that generates a sources.list?
[06:47] <Dr_willis> but lets check out the original error. :)
[06:48] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  you do NOT NOT NOT need to use automatix for that stuff
[06:48] <makuseru> you dont?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> I have them and never use automatix
[06:48] <makuseru> how can you get them then?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  you do  NOT NOT NOT x 100000000000
[06:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:48] <makuseru> i just removed automatix
[06:48] <Dr_willis> they are in the severas repositoris is one way
[06:48] <Dr_willis> or ya can download the .deb from the mplayer homepage is another .
[06:49] <Dr_willis> !w32codecs
[06:49] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:49] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[06:49] <Kite_DH> !customize
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about customize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <Kite_DH> !themes
[06:49] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:50] <Jucato> !changethemes | Kite_DH
[06:50] <ubotu> Kite_DH: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[06:50] <makuseru> so just add "deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas list_of_sections " to my sources?
[06:51] <Jucato> makuseru: follow the instructions on that page
[06:51] <makuseru> i dont see them
[06:51] <Jucato> you should substitute "list_of_sections" for an actual section, listed at the end of the page
[06:51] <makuseru> oh ok
[06:51] <gugu^> cpk1: there is nothing
[06:52] <cpk1> gugu^: hmm?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> heh heh - it pays to read the site thourghly
[06:53] <Adydas> Is there a Kde gui based way to setup tv out?
[06:53] <mefisto__> I've got kde 3.5.6 installed. To generate a sources.list from source-o-matic webpage, should I select the "Kubuntu.org bleeding edge KDE" option to receive the right updates?
[06:54] <ForgeAus> back
[06:54] <Jucato> front
[06:54] <ForgeAus> ok where was I ... if the workgroup is set to a matching string...
[06:54] <justin_> Hey guys, I have a quick question.. I'm a newb and I think I messed something big up recently.. When I try to run Kate from the command line I get the error:
[06:54] <ForgeAus> then the computer should show up (whatever name it is) in the same workgroup right?
[06:54] <justin_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[06:54] <justin_>   Major opcode:  144
[06:55] <justin_>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:55] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  you need to restart the samba services
[06:55] <justin_>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> justin_: that's why you run kate with "run command" in the K menu
[06:55] <justin_> Failed to open device
[06:55] <justin_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[06:55] <makuseru> Dr_willis: i removed all automatix things, and same problem, plus a key error for that new repo even though i added the key, but it siad it wouldnt export the key
[06:55] <ForgeAus> Dr Willis how do you do that?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> justin_,  thats such a faq. :) its from the wacom tablet being in the xorg.conf
[06:55] <justin_>   Major opcode:  144
[06:55] <justin_>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:55] <justin_>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:55] <justin_> Failed to open device
[06:55] <justin_> Oops sorry about that
[06:55] <justin_> thought it might go on one line.. =)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  same as any other service.. :)     - sudo /etc/init.d/whatever restart
[06:55] <ForgeAus> I'm not even certain I've started them to begin with!
[06:55] <justin_> All apologies for the faq then!
[06:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:55] <justin_> Thanks for the help
[06:55] <Jucato> !pastebin | justin_
[06:55] <ubotu> justin_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> justin_,  lets find the url
[06:55] <Dr_willis> !wacom
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <Dr_willis> !tablet
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <Dr_willis> hmm..
[06:56] <Jucato> er.. Dr_willis?
[06:56] <ForgeAus> um I don't see any samba in /etc/init.d/
[06:56] <justin_> Did I miss something?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> whats thats factoud for that wacom/tablet thing...
[06:57] <mefisto__> justin_: if you want to get rid of that message, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1264009
[06:57] <intelikey> if you did i did too
[06:57] <Jucato> justin_: those errors are for the wacom entries in xorg.conf. but since you don't have a wacom or are not using a Tablet PC, they show up. but these errors are safe to ignore
[06:57] <Adydas> !tvout
[06:57] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[06:57] <makuseru> Dr_willis: i removed all automatix things, and same problem, plus a key error for that new repo even though i added the key, but it siad it wouldnt export the key
[06:57] <Dr_willis> just real annoying errors. :)
[06:57] <mefisto__> I've got kde 3.5.6 installed. To generate a sources.list from source-o-matic webpage, should I select the "Kubuntu.org bleeding edge KDE" option to receive the right updates?
[06:57] <Jucato> which can be avoided by launching GUI apps from Alt+F2 :)
[06:57] <justin_> Oh great ok thanks, I was trying to install beryl and kate scared me from the outset
[06:58] <justin_> but I'll just ignore it
[06:58] <cpk1> gugu^: so where are you at now?
[06:58] <ForgeAus> are you sure dr_willis theres no /etc/init.d/* files with smb or samba in them anywhere
[06:58] <Dr_willis> not on ubuntu at this minet.. let me check
[06:59] <kevman> Hey, where do I put a command that I want to run every time I boot?
[06:59] <kevman> What script?
[06:59] <intelikey> Dr_willis the wacom errors ?
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> kevman: ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:59] <kevman> I need before X loads.
[06:59] <Jucato> ForgeAus: I believe you have to install samba
[06:59] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  i got a /etc/init.d/samba script.. to start samba
[07:00] <ForgeAus> which package?
[07:00] <intelikey> Dr_willis was that what you were asking about ?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  i forget....
[07:00] <Jucato> ForgeAus: samba :)
[07:00] <ForgeAus> ahh IC samba itself
[07:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:00] <ForgeAus> I thought I already had it
[07:00] <Jucato> !info samba | ForgeAus
[07:00] <ubotu> forgeaus: samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 2956 kB, installed size 7392 kB
[07:00] <Jucato> hm.. ubotu? slacking off?
[07:00] <mefisto__> I've got kde 3.5.6 installed. To generate a sources.list from source-o-matic webpage, should I select the "Kubuntu.org bleeding edge KDE" option to receive the right updates?
[07:01] <ForgeAus> hmm I wish XP had some simple LDAP
[07:01] <gugu^> cpk1: I modified Ip adress on box and its working
[07:01] <Jucato> mefisto__: 3.5.6 is the latest. but yes, the kde-latest repository would probably give you the proper updates
[07:01] <intelikey> Dr_willis it's real simple to remove the three wacom device listings in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf     the three device listings and the mention of them in the server section
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> kevman: what exactly are you trying to do
[07:01] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  yes - i can do it.. :) but others need help. heh ...
[07:01] <cpk1> gugu^: great can box2 access google?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  of course i actually have a wacom tablet.. it sucks...
[07:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:02] <intelikey> lol
[07:02] <ForgeAus> I wonder when "longhorn"/vista server will come out...
[07:02] <makuseru> Dr_willis: i removed all automatix things, and same problem, plus a key error for that new repo even though i added the key, but it siad it wouldnt export the key
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> who cares, their servers are terrible
[07:02] <kevman> Admiral_Chicago, there is a little app that hacks this thing's video BIOS into support the resolution I want it X to start in.
[07:02] <mefisto__> Jucato: so what the source-o-matic page refers to as "bleeding edge" is kde 3.5.6? or is it more recent than that?
[07:03] <BrettV> I attempted to run adept but it would not load. So I restarted my machine. Now when I run adept it says that another process is using it so I cannot. I guess there is a crashed process running... can someone help me fix this?
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> kevman: wow, okay good luck with that, never heard of it
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> !adeptcrash | BrettV
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  thats not really an error - i think you can still install stuff.. it will just warn you about them not being verified.
[07:03] <Jucato> mefisto__: the latest kde version is 3.5.6. source-o-matic will add a kubuntu.org/kde-latest repository if you check that "bleeding edge" option. kde-latest will hold future kde updates (if they come)
[07:03] <gugu^> cpk1: yes
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> dammit, who knows the factoid
[07:03] <kevman> Admiral_Chicago, the command works fine. I just need it run at boot.
[07:03] <intelikey> Dr_willis i find it easiest to help others by having them pastbin their xorg.conf then correcting it and saying there use that     saves time too.
[07:03] <Jucato> !adeptfix | BrettV
[07:03] <ubotu> BrettV: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:03] <BrettV> hehe
[07:04] <BrettV> thanks Jucato
[07:04] <cpk1> gugu^: alright we arent done yet though =)
[07:04] <mefisto__> thanks Jucato
[07:04] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: it's adeptfix or adeptcrashfix
[07:04] <Admiral_Chicago> there you go. thanks Jucato.
[07:04] <gugu^> cpk1: thank you very much :)
[07:04] <makuseru> Dr_willis: oh, well whats the package form seveas that has the codecs in it?
[07:04] <intelikey> makuseru warning != error
[07:04] <Dr_willis> makuseru,  w32codecs  i think
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !find w32codecs
[07:04] <Jucato> makuseru: if you just need w32codecs, you could just download the .deb file and install that
[07:05] <Jucato> makuseru: I gave the link earlier
[07:05] <ubotu> Package/file w32codecs does not exist in edgy
[07:05] <Jucato> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[07:05] <Jucato> makuseru: ^^^
[07:05] <cpk1> gugu^: sudo iptables-save > /etc/network/iptables.list (this saves your current MASQUERADE rule in /etc/network/iptables.list)
[07:06] <makuseru> thanks
[07:08] <gugu^> cpk1: ok, thx
[07:08] <cpk1> gugu^: still more work to do =)
[07:09] <BrettV> Is perl installed by default?
[07:09] <cpk1> gugu^: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[07:10] <Jucato> BrettV: I believe so
[07:10] <intelikey> Jucato in a cli browser i can't see the whole link on that page.   it's needs a tinyurl added.
[07:10] <Jucato> intelikey: which one?
[07:11] <cpk1> gugu^: edit the eth1 line to look like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6673/
[07:11] <intelikey>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[07:11] <intelikey> the rul to the actual .deb
[07:11] <Jucato> in the wiki itself? hm... hold on
[07:11] <intelikey> turncates at about  http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32code
[07:12] <justin_> Ah yeah I was removing them as we speak
[07:12] <Jucato> intelikey: it's not a url you click though.. because it's supposed to be used with wget. there's nothing to click in the wiki page itself
[07:13] <justin_> Is there a way to jump to an su, I was IN kate editing my xorg.conf file and it won't let me save because I don't have the power.. So I'll have to close it without saving and run sudo kate from the command line, THEN I can save it
[07:13] <intelikey> yes i know.  that's the point.  the cli user doesn't get the full address.
[07:13] <niblets> My kopete wont connect to the MSN server, and ideas of how to fix it?r
[07:13] <intelikey> @ Jucato ^
[07:14] <niblets> I get a mixture of "your password was wrong" (whereas it is ALWAYS correct" and "Could not connect to the MSN server"
[07:14] <Jucato> intelikey: how permanent is a tinyurl? how long does the tinyurl's link to the real url last?
[07:14] <intelikey> err console user     but it doesn't really matter cause i don't do proprietary and dr_willis already has it...   that's about the extent of console users in here
[07:15] <intelikey> Jucato i don't really know.
[07:15] <makuseru> hi, when i "apt-get update" i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6674/ how can i fix this?
[07:16] <intelikey> makuseru those are warnings.    telling you that you don't have the correct gpg key.
[07:16] <intelikey> or you don't have gpg installed ?
[07:16] <intelikey> !gpg
[07:16] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[07:19] <intelikey> nice net split...
[07:20] <intelikey> ye ha
[07:20] <niblets> What just happened to everyone? And can anyone tell me how to update kopete?
[07:20] <cpk1> thats a real netsplit intelikey =)
[07:21] <Jucato_> yay kool! netsplit?
[07:21] <Jucato_> hahah
[07:21] <Jucato_> niblets: what version do you have now?
[07:21] <mefisto__> are there normally any items in kmenu related to wine? should I expect to see anything after installing wine?
[07:21] <Jucato_> current Kopete version available in Kubuntu is 0.12.4 (using KDE 3.5.6)
[07:21] <soulrider> !basket
[07:21] <ubotu> basket: User-friendly way to run programs and manage links in KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-6 (edgy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[07:21] <intelikey> yeah  real as in several servers desynced
[07:22] <niblets> Jucato_ How can I find out my current version?
[07:22] <Jucato_> mefisto__: after installing wine? no. sometimes kmenu entries appear for apps you installed using wine
[07:22] <Jucato_> niblets: Kopete Help menu -> About Kopete
[07:23] <intelikey> or kopete --version
[07:23] <niblets> 0.12.3 (using KDE 3.5.5)
[07:23] <Jucato_> niblets: if you're on Edgy, you can upgrade your KDE to 3.5.6. if you're on Dapper, you're stuck with KDE 3.5.5 for now
[07:23] <niblets> I'm on edgy
[07:24] <Jucato_> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php <---
[07:25] <niblets> How easy is it to upgrade/update?
[07:25] <gugu^> cpk1: ok....
[07:26] <cpk1> gugu^: finished?
[07:26] <gugu^> cpk1: yes
[07:26] <Jucato_> niblets: so far, I have heard of no problems regarding upgrades from KDE 3.5.5 to 3.5.6
[07:26] <niblets> So do I put in the console command they have in italics?
[07:26] <niblets> *not italics, lighter text
[07:26] <cpk1> gugu^: I think thats it, do me a favor though and pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/network/interfaces' and also the output of 'cat /etc/dhcpd.conf'
[07:27] <Jucato_> niblets: um... you run the commands to download and add the key. then you add one of the repositories listed there to your sources.list
[07:27] <fanscore> !fr
[07:27] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:27] <intelikey> cups error   E  Unable to bind socket for address 127.0.0.1:631 - Address already in use.
[07:28] <Jucato_> intelikey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs <--- good enough for you?
[07:29] <niblets> how do I add them to the sources list? Jucato_
[07:29] <Jucato_> !repositories | niblets
[07:29] <ubotu> niblets: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:29] <Jucato_> intructions are there
[07:29] <niblets> thanks
[07:29] <gugu^> cpk1: on private
[07:30] <cpk1> !pastebin | gugu^
[07:30] <ubotu> gugu^: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <intelikey> Jucato_ yea   http://tinyurl.com/ye7s6w   that i can see   (:
[07:30] <gugu^> cpk1:  ok
[07:30] <gugu^> auto eth0
[07:30] <gugu^> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:30] <niblets> So updating this would update Kopete? Jucato_
[07:30] <cpk1> gugu^: NO
[07:30] <gugu^> auto eth1
[07:30] <cpk1> gugu^: stop
[07:30] <gugu^> iface eth1 inet static
[07:30] <gugu^> address 192.168.27.1
[07:30] <cpk1> gugu^: ...
[07:30] <gugu^> netmask 255.255.255.0
[07:30] <gugu^> gateway 192.168.27.1
[07:31] <Jucato> niblets: it would update all of KDE, including Kopete
[07:31] <gugu^> pre-up /sbin/iptables-restore /etc/network/iptables.rules
[07:31] <cpk1> gugu^: did you read the factoid?
[07:31] <gugu^> auto eth2
[07:31] <gugu^> iface eth2 inet dhcp
[07:31] <gugu^> auto ath0
[07:31] <gugu^> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[07:31] <gugu^> auto wlan0
[07:31] <gugu^> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[07:31] <gugu^> iface dsl-provider inet ppp
[07:31] <gugu^> provider dsl-provider
[07:31] <cpk1> ...
[07:31] <gugu^> cpk1:  yes
[07:32] <intelikey> does anyone know how to kill a socket ?
[07:32] <gugu^> cpk1: sorry
[07:32] <intelikey> cups error   E  Unable to bind socket for address 127.0.0.1:631 - Address already in use.
[07:32] <cpk1> gugu^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org click that link then paste the text into that and then press the paste bottom at the bottom of that page
[07:33] <intelikey> E [20/Feb/2007:00:32:59 -0600]  Unable to save remote.cache - Permission denied   also getting that error
[07:34] <oleg> I need help with ubuntu's automount system. Usually multiple users are logged into the computer through kde. When an active user inserts media into the computer, other user gets media access rights instead.
[07:35] <gugu^> cpk1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6680/
[07:37] <Jucato_> ok this is getting annoying
[07:37] <Jucato> seriously...
[07:37] <cpk1> gugu^: looks good but comment out option domain-name "fugue.com"; and option domain-name-servers toccata.fugue.com; in /etc/dhcpd.conf you dont need those
[07:37] <niblets> When I changed the repositories on Adept, it says I have to hit apply, but the apply button is faded (un clickable)
[07:38] <gugu^> cpk1:  so I can remove theme
[07:38] <cpk1> gugu^: just put a # at the beginning of the line they are on
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> niblets: are you suod
[07:39] <gugu^> ok
[07:39] <shawnyboi> hey whats up?
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[07:39] <niblets> Admiral_Chicago Am I what, sorry?
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> niblets: did you enter your password at anypoint?
[07:40] <niblets> yes
[07:40] <niblets> I got a prompt when I opened adept
[07:40] <gugu^> cpk1: thank you
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, okay have a screenshoot?
[07:40] <gugu^> cpk1:  Can I give You one more quiestion?
[07:41] <gugu^> :)
[07:41] <cpk1> gugu^: now when you restart box1 everything *should* work
[07:41] <cpk1> sure
[07:41] <gugu^> cpk1:  how to install xlibs
[07:41] <cpk1> xlibs-data?
[07:42] <cpk1> sudo aptitude install xlibs-data
[07:42] <niblets> Admiral_Chicago I do, but how can I show you it?
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> niblets: upload it to imageshack
[07:43] <niblets> ok.
[07:43] <willy> #kubuntu-es
[07:45] <niblets> Ok, nevermind, I have gotten past that. But now I have applied the universe multiverse thing, what do I do? the guide doesnt say how to get KDE 3.5.6 from there on
[07:45] <gugu^> cpk1:  I whant to install ymessenger,and theire says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6682/
[07:46] <cpk1> gugu^: so try aptitude install -f?
[07:47] <underdog5004> so, when I get katapult up, and I type in "swif" I get the swiftfox browser. If I type in "swift" I get a link to www.getswiftfox.com, which opens in konq...any ideas?
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> underdog5004: it's in your home directore...
[07:47] <Jucato> actually, it's the Bookmark Catalog conflicting with the Programs Catalog
[07:48] <Jucato> (afaik and iirc)
[07:48] <Jucato> you can remove the Bookmark catalog if you want.
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, that is also a possibility
[07:48] <underdog5004> Admiral_Chicago, I'm looking at my /home now...can't see any .katapult dir or anything like that...
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> underdog5004: look at your bookmarks
[07:48] <Jucato> Alt+Space, Ctrl+C (to bring up the config menu) -> Configure Katapult -> Catalogs -> remove Bookmark Catalog
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> or it may be in kmenu
[07:49] <gugu^> cpk1: yes, but i can`t install yamessenger
[07:49] <underdog5004> nope on bookmarks and nope on .kmenu...
[07:49] <underdog5004> or kmenu
[07:50] <Jucato> underdog5004: did you try removing the bookmark catalog?
[07:50] <underdog5004> I don't see one, even in my /home w/ hidden folders shown...
[07:50] <Jucato> underdog5004: <Jucato> Alt+Space, Ctrl+C (to bring up the config menu) -> Configure Katapult -> Catalogs -> remove Bookmark Catalog
[07:51] <underdog5004> thanks
[07:51] <underdog5004> I see it now...you rock
[07:53] <Contrast012083> What's up, everyone?
[07:53] <Contrast012083> Does anyone here have both Gnome and KDE installed?
[07:54] <underdog5004> Jucato, very cool, I got it!
[07:55] <Contrast012083> Is there any way to configure the way GTK apps look in KDE, besides what's available in KControl?
[07:58] <underdog5004> idk
[07:59] <d03boy> i was just playing with my video settings and now i cant change my resolution back to 1280x800
[07:59] <d03boy> i change it, but when I restart X it doesnt save it ors omething
[07:59] <d03boy> its weird
[07:59] <underdog5004> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:00] <d03boy> ...thats a little rediculous :P
[08:00] <d03boy> i know what videocard I have. I know what monitor I have
[08:00] <underdog5004> well...yeah...
[08:00] <Contrast012083> d03boy, was 1280x800 the default setting when you installed Kubuntu?
[08:00] <d03boy> Contrast012083, I believe so
[08:00] <Contrast012083> then yeah, just run the command underdog said.
[08:00] <d03boy> there is a specific "monitor driver" that shows up in the list for my laptop
[08:02] <d03boy> ugh... once I start this reconfigure, can I cnacel out of it?
[08:02] <d03boy> cancel
[08:02] <Contrast012083> No, it make a backup of the file it's overwriting.
[08:03] <Contrast012083> What it does is reset your xorg.conf (the file that determines all the settings your display device, video card, and input devices) back to its default settings.
[08:03] <d03boy> well I just totally screwed up that command
[08:03] <d03boy> so I need to fix it now
[08:03] <d03boy> back to what it was a minute ago
[08:04] <gugu^> cpk1:When i whant to install ymessenger, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6685/
[08:04] <Contrast012083> Do you use Beryl or Compiz?
[08:05] <d03boy> who are you talking to?
[08:05] <Contrast012083> you.
[08:05] <d03boy> i'm not using either of them
[08:05] <Contrast012083> gugu, did you check and see if you have those packages installed in Synaptic?
[08:05] <Contrast012083> Then you should be good. Just run that command and you're set.
[08:06] <Contrast012083> If that doesn't work the way you want it to...
[08:06] <Contrast012083> Open Konqueror as root (Alt+F2, kdesu konqueror), go to /etc/X11, switch the view mode to Tree, and sort by date...
[08:07] <d03boy> im still confused as to why I cant just use the system settings :P
[08:07] <Contrast012083> Then open xorg.conf and whichever backup file was modified around the time you started messing with things. Just delete the contents of xorg.conf and paste the contents of the other one in to it.
[08:07] <d03boy> you'd think it would work...
[08:08] <Contrast012083> Yeah, you'd think so. It usually does, but it has problems with certain devices sometimes.
[08:08] <Contrast012083> How long have you been using Linux?
[08:08] <d03boy> a few years
[08:08] <d03boy> its my secondary laptop though
[08:08] <d03boy> so I dont use it primarily
[08:08] <d03boy> it usually just sits here with irc open
[08:08] <Contrast012083> And you're still not comfortable editing config. files? :-P
[08:08] <d03boy> ya I am
[08:09] <d03boy> xorg has always been a problem for me
[08:09] <d03boy> it doesnt like my hardware I think
[08:09] <Contrast012083> J/p... What kind of setup do you have?
[08:09] <d03boy> dell inspiron 8600 laptop
[08:09] <d03boy> pain in the ass :(
[08:09] <Contrast012083> What kind of graphics card, I mean?
[08:09] <d03boy> geforce fx 5600 Go!
[08:10] <d03boy> i think thats the name ofit
[08:10] <d03boy> 64mb
[08:10] <Contrast012083> Have you tried installed the proprietary NVidia driver?
[08:10] <Contrast012083> installing*
[08:10] <d03boy> i believe that is what I have installed at the moment
[08:10] <d03boy> i installed it with apt-get a few days ago
[08:10] <Contrast012083> nvidia-glx?
[08:10] <d03boy> ran glxgears and it worked fine
[08:10] <Contrast012083> Hmm
[08:11] <Contrast012083> Did you try changing the resolution with nvidia-settings?
[08:11] <d03boy> no
[08:11] <d03boy> haha, I have no idea that existed
[08:11] <Contrast012083> You [i] might[/i]  give that a shot if you're determined. If it doesn't work, you can always run that command to reset it.
[08:11] <Contrast012083> Oh, one thing to keep in mind...
[08:12] <Contrast012083> Running that command will reset your driver back to the free "nv" driver.
[08:12] <Contrast012083> Open a terminal, type nv and hit tab a couple times. You'll see all the different NVidia tools that came with the prop. driver.
[08:12] <d03boy> ya, thats why i decided to cancel :P
[08:13] <Contrast012083> Did you see what I was saying about just copying and pasting your previous xorg.conf into the current one?
[08:13] <d03boy> ya i already did that
[08:13] <d03boy> with mv
[08:14] <d03boy> hopefully thats ok
[08:14] <Contrast012083> Should be good then. That's what I always do when I've screwed something up and it's always worked.
[08:15] <d03boy> cool
[08:16] <Contrast012083> Once you're sure it's working alright, you might want to keep a copy of your working xorg.conf in an easy-to-remember place so you won't have to hunt through /etc/X11 for the right one.
[08:16] <d03boy> good call
[08:17] <Contrast012083> Have you checked out Beryl before/know what it is?
[08:18] <d03boy> ive heard about it and seen videos
[08:18] <d03boy> i was actually considering installing it
[08:18] <d03boy> i dont know a lot about it though
[08:19] <Contrast012083> Which release of Kubuntu are you using?
[08:19] <captnjack4564> what do i get by downloading the dvd instead of the cd?
[08:19] <Contrast012083> Good question. I didn't even know there was a DVD.
[08:19] <underdog5004> captnjack4564, more packages.
[08:19] <underdog5004> well, more packages available w/o d/l'ing them
[08:20] <Contrast012083> More bloat, in other words. :-\
[08:20] <d03boy> im on dapper
[08:20] <captnjack4564> bloat... kinda like vista?
[08:20] <underdog5004> no, more bloat readily available
[08:20] <Contrast012083> That'd be tough to match, captnjack4564.
[08:21] <captnjack4564> haha yeah... so you guys dont think there would be advantage in downloading the dvd
[08:21] <Contrast012083> do3boy, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[08:21] <d03boy> i installed with the netinstall captnjack
[08:21] <captnjack4564> where do i find the netinstall... i didnt know it existed
[08:22] <Jucato> captnjack4564: if you don't have an very good internet connection and you want more package readily available without having to download, you're better off with the DVD
[08:22] <Contrast012083> captnjack, I personally don't, but you might want to find out what is actually included in the DVD. It might be stuff you would use.
[08:22] <Jucato> afaik, the DVD includes all of main and restricted, and some universe apps
[08:22] <d03boy> aw, beryl is not supported on dapper :(
[08:23] <d03boy> oh well, who needs support?
[08:23] <captnjack4564> well i'm on a university network so download speed really isn't an issue ;)
[08:23] <Contrast012083> The Beryl forums are good enough support for me.
[08:24] <Contrast012083> jack, I'd say go with the CD. You can always look through the repositories on Synaptic and decide what you want to install yourself.
[08:24] <captnjack4564> sweet thanks
[08:25] <Contrast012083> I'd like to see Ubuntu start offering a custom install option, where it asks you what all you do on your computer throughout the process, and only installs the relevant packages.
[08:26] <vge> Contrast012083: i think it's simple that way that it installs "everything" for new people
[08:27] <d03boy> ya
[08:27] <captnjack4564> where can i find the netinstall just out of curiosity to look at it?
[08:27] <d03boy> maybe there isnt one... maybe I did dl the whole cd
[08:27] <Jucato> there's a netinstall, but not an official CD afaik
[08:27] <Jucato> !netinstall
[08:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:28] <captnjack4564> wicked
[08:28] <Contrast012083> True, but I'm just saying it'd be nice if they could put up a seperate ISO for more experienced users who don't want to spend the first hour after installing the CD removing software.
[08:31] <underdog5004> So, dell has basically cloned digg.com to see what people want. They have an "idea" that you can promote...Preinstalled linux. Go there and make it count!   www.dellideastorm.com
[08:32] <oleg> I need help with ubuntu's automount system. Usually multiple users are logged into the computer through kde. When an active user inserts media into the computer, other user gets media access rights instead.
[08:33] <user______> serena
[08:33] <underdog5004> serena?
[08:38] <user______> uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[08:39] <underdog5004> hmm, you're retarded.
[08:42] <kraut> moin
[08:49] <Ademan> anyone know about how large a fresh install of edgy is?
[08:49] <underdog5004> about 2.5 gigs
[08:49] <underdog5004> I think the installer says that your / partition needs a minimum of 2 gigs...
[08:50] <Ademan> alright cool thanks
[08:50] <underdog5004> but 2.5-3 is about what I see in rl...
[08:50] <underdog5004> np
[08:56] <_fitz_> http://www.repubblica.it/2005/i/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/software/cuba-linux/cuba-linux.html
[09:02] <piro_> does firefox close suddenly for anyone else ?
[09:03] <vge> seldom, but yes
[09:03] <piro_> wondering if i should get back to 1.5
[09:04] <vge> havent bothered me that mutch as it has the "restore windows" - option, but if it's constant, i see no big deal converting back
[09:04] <vge> *would not see big..
[09:07] <yettenet> Hello there! Can anyone tell me where I can set startup applications?
[09:08] <Jucato> !autostart | yettenet
[09:08] <ubotu> yettenet: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:08] <yettenet> I see
[09:08] <yettenet> And where can I disable KDE remembering my previous session
[09:08] <yettenet> ?
[09:09] <Contrast012083> Yettenet, System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager.
[09:09] <Jucato> yettenet: System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager
[09:09] <Contrast012083> Start with an empty session.
[09:09] <Jucato> snap
[09:09] <yettenet> Ahm...
[09:09] <yettenet> Thanks :P
[09:09] <Contrast012083> Yup.
[09:10] <Contrast012083> Does anyone know if there's a way to configure how GTK apps look in KDE, aside from the settings in KControl?
[09:11] <piro_> wow nice bot rofl
[09:11] <Contrast012083> Or, if one had both Gnome and KDE installed, would the changes you make to the appearance of GTK apps in Gnome also apply to when you run them in KDE?
[09:14] <Kite_DH> how to install a icon theme?
[09:15] <Contrast012083> Kite_DH, System Settings -> Appearance, Icons.
[09:16] <Jucato> !changethemes | Kite_DH
[09:16] <ubotu> Kite_DH: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[09:17] <Kite_DH> hmm, i downloaded this theme, it contained folders with .png files, and a index.desktop file, where is the file i have to put into system settings> appearance > icons
[09:17] <Kite_DH> ???
[09:18] <Eltran> heya
[09:18] <Kite_DH> hi^^
[09:18] <Contrast012083> Kite, the original .tar.gz file is the one you want to use
[09:18] <Eltran> how can I force the wireless lan to connect when I start my comptuer ?
[09:19] <Jucato> Kite_DH: you don't need to extract the theme. use the .tar.gz. the instructions are on that page
[09:19] <Eltran> it doesn't connect automatically to teh netw0rk
[09:19] <Kite_DH> Jucato: thank you very much
[09:30] <underdog5004> lol, still nothing happening in here?
[09:31] <zaris> what is the name of that site that shows me all the files in ubuntu and their package??
[09:31] <underdog5004> google is your friend
[09:32] <oleg> I need help with ubuntu's automount system. Usually multiple users are logged into the computer through kde. When an active user inserts media into the computer, other user gets media access rights instead. Did anyone have same problem?
[09:32] <zaris> underdog5004: hey
[09:32] <Jucato> zaris: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:32] <zaris> underdog5004: i am coming from google
[09:32] <underdog5004> ah
[09:32] <Jucato> that one?
[09:32] <zaris> underdog5004: i think the answer is shorter than your advice
[09:32] <zaris> underdog5004: :)
[09:32] <underdog5004> rofl
[09:32] <zaris> Jucato: thanks
[09:32] <underdog5004> sorry, I didn't know the site...
[09:32] <zaris> underdog5004: ok
[09:32] <zaris> :)
[09:33] <underdog5004> Jucato, will beryl run well on i810 Integrated Graphics?
[09:33] <Jucato> underdog5004: I honestly don't know
[09:33] <Jucato> underdog5004: Google is your friend :D
[09:33] <underdog5004> oh, that was a good one!
[09:33] <underdog5004> lol
[09:33] <chavo> underdog5004, it works alright on mine
[09:33] <Jucato> !beryl | underdog5004
[09:33] <ubotu> underdog5004: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:33] <chavo> but I only have 384M ram
[09:34] <Jucato> that site may be more useful
[09:34] <underdog5004> meh...I'll just wait for my graphics card to get here...then I can set up my new (to me) computer...
[09:35] <chavo> yeah it's definitely much slower, but it does work
[09:43] <Obsidian> *sigh*
[09:43] <MasterDash> There.
[09:45] <vegasmcpc> hey, i have a raid array started and running, i just need to know what filesystem to make it and i need to know how to mount it
[09:45] <vegasmcpc> anybody able to help?
[09:46] <MasterDash> Okay folks.  Have a bit of a question regarding video capture over USB (2.0 of course)  Getting to be a pain in my ..erm..neck.
[09:47] <MasterDash> Heh..or not.  maybe the bad time of day for this.
[09:52] <karen> hi, I have user homes on second drive mounted with ntfs-3g I can read and write to disk, but user homes are owned by root. I tried chown and chgrp to make homes owned by user:user, but it does not work. Any ideas?
[09:56] <tuco> Good morning people. Anybody know how to install icon themes? Read the explanation on kde site but can't seem to do it.
[09:56] <firecrotch> karen: NTFS format partitions don't have file and folder permissions like Ext2/3, they'll always be owned by the user that mounted the drive, usually root
[09:59] <firecrotch> karen: why do you even have /home on an NTFS partition?
[10:00] <Contrast012083> tuco, System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons -> Install New Theme...
[10:00] <karen> firecrotch: its part of mirgrating from win2k 2 linux, the users hard drive was already NTFS
[10:00] <fanscore> !fr
[10:00] <Contrast012083> Then just browse to the archive file that you downloaded.
[10:00] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:01] <karen> firecrotch: this means that /home/* is all root:root, which creates a real problem with crossover office
[10:01] <Contrast012083> Alternatively, you can browse through the packages starting with "kde-icons" in Adept and install the ones you want there.
[10:02] <firecrotch> karen: unfortunately, the only way for it to not be root:root is to convert the partition to ext2 or ext3
[10:03] <tuco> I did that Contrast. I have downloaded the tar .gz file, extracted it, and went into Appearance/Icons/ and install but it doesnt work
[10:03] <karen> firecrotch: then win2k will not be able to read the partition. Is that right?
[10:03] <Contrast012083> Where'd you download it from?
[10:04] <tuco> can't find this: /usr/share/icons/
[10:04] <firecrotch> karen: that's correct, though there may be some program that will still let you read it from windows
[10:05] <tuco> kde look
[10:05] <Contrast012083> tuco, you mean that folder doesn't exist on your system?
[10:05] <karen> firecrotch: any suggestions for tools to convert ntfs to ext3
[10:05] <tuco> I don't know how to get to it :-(?
[10:06] <Contrast012083> you have to be root to make any changes to it. you should be able to read it fine though.
[10:06] <Contrast012083> what happens when you type that in the address bar in Konqueror?
[10:06] <firecrotch> karen: you might want to look into explore2fs, which will let you use ext partitions from windows http://www.chrysocome.net/explore2fs
[10:07] <tuco> Aaaaaah got it
[10:07] <Contrast012083> I don't think that's really going to help your situation though.
[10:08] <Contrast012083> What's it say when you try to install the icon theme in System Settings?
[10:09] <firecrotch> karen: you'll have to back up the data, and then use your favorite partitioning program, be it Qtparted or Partition Magic, or plain old parted
[10:09] <karen> firecrotch: thx
[10:09] <firecrotch> karen: you're welcome
[10:10] <cntb> on dapper here why my firefox-bin FF2 is in /opt/firefox ?
[10:10] <tuco> the file is not a valid icon them archive
[10:12] <mefisto__> is ntfs-3g something we can now trust to not corrupt data?
[10:14] <cntb> has anyone compiled and installed mplayerplug-in from sourceforge.net ?
[10:15] <redha> Hi, Just installed Kubuntu on a Toshiba laptop, apparently wireless is not working...how can I make sure??
[10:16] <vge> redha: does it see in the kcontrol menu?
[10:16] <vge> under networking
[10:17] <Contrast012083> cntb, there's a .deb package for that.
[10:17] <redha> there is eth0 and eth1
[10:17] <firecrotch> mefisto__: It's still not 100% there yet.  Maybe 98% at most.
[10:17] <vge> and eth1 has the "wireless icon"?
[10:18] <redha> nope nothing indicative of a wireless connection
[10:18] <mefisto__> thanks firecrotch. I'll wait before I try it
[10:18] <vge> check lspci to see that it's visible to the system
[10:18] <redha> they are exactly the same except eth0 has an IP which is the connection I have now
[10:18] <vge> then !wireless
[10:18] <vge> !wireless
[10:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:19] <firecrotch> mefisto__: I personally don't use it because I don't trust it yet.
[10:19] <mefisto__> firecrotch: neither do I
[10:20] <redha> Guess this is the line of interest: "02:0a.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI                                                                                                    Adapter (rev 04)"
[10:20] <redha> so its detected right?
[10:20] <vge> well, atleast it's not broadcom, gz :)
[10:20] <firecrotch> mefisto__: apparently they're claiming that it's 100% safe now
[10:21] <vge> redha: if you try google on that name, i think you can find a solution kinda fast
[10:21] <redha> lol, didn't understand the joke, but guess its not a crucial point to understand ;)
[10:21] <cntb> !compile
[10:21] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:21] <redha> ok great ill do that vge (using cables), the system is updating now so I don't really wanna tweak around
[10:22] <mefisto__> firecrotch: yes I was just reading the website, but they would say that, wouldn't they?
[10:22] <cntb> is mplayerplug-in in pre-built packages?
[10:22] <cntb> !packages
[10:22] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[10:23] <mefisto__> cntb: are you talking about the mplayer firefox plugin?
[10:23] <Jucato> cntb: what do you mean?
[10:23] <firecrotch> mefisto__: They've always been honest about how safe it is (as are 99.99% of developers in the Linux community)
[10:23] <dettoaltrimenti_> I just downloaded the package abs-guide from adept, which should just be a text file. Where did it save to?
[10:23] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: try looking around /usr/share/doc
[10:26] <mefisto__> firecrotch: I don't mean they are being deliberately dishonest, just overconfident perhaps
[10:27] <firecrotch> mefisto__: judging by their testing, I would be confident too
[10:28] <mefisto__> firecrotch: so why aren't you using it?
[10:28] <firecrotch> mefisto__: I just noticed that they've put out the Release Candidate.
[10:29] <firecrotch> But I also have no need to use it, really.  The only thing I use Windows for at all is programming in VB.NET for one of my classes
[10:31] <mefisto__> firecrotch: I have another fat32 disk that I can use with windows and kubuntu, so I don't really need it. I'll wait a few months before trying it out
[10:32] <mefisto__> cntb: are you after the mplayer firefox plugin?
[10:32] <frojnd> what's the name of package that installes opera
[10:33] <firecrotch> mefisto__: That works too :)  I used to have a fat32 partition
[10:33] <frojnd> ???
[10:33] <frojnd> I wanna test opera..
[10:33] <frojnd> so..
[10:33] <frojnd> :=
[10:33] <firecrotch> !opera
[10:33] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[10:33] <frojnd> ah ;)
[10:34] <firecrotch> frojnd: if you already have the commercial repo in your sources.list, I believe the package is called opera9, so you can just do sudo apt-get install opera9
[10:35] <firecrotch> frojnd: sorry, the package is just called "opera"
[10:35] <ailean> I was thinking of getting a Mac and dual-booting with Kubuntu.  Has anyone done this? And if so, what hardware incompatibilities have you had (if any)?
[10:35] <cntb> can I find here http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/ the mplayerplug-in ?
[10:36] <walec51> helo
[10:36] <ailean> cntb, are you running dapper?
[10:36] <cntb> ailean better get an intel machine not PPC
[10:36] <cntb> yes ailean
[10:36] <ailean> cntb, yeah, of course
[10:36] <frojnd> firecrotch: looks like I don't have commercial repo..
[10:36] <Jucato> cntb: you mean the mplayer plugin for firefox?
[10:36] <cntb> yes Jucato
[10:37] <Jucato> !info mozilla-mplayer dapper
[10:37] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[10:37] <walec51> I have a problem with setting a static IP on kubuntu, could someone plz help me?
[10:37] <Jucato> cntb: ^^^^
[10:37] <mefisto__> cntb: it's mozilla-mplayer, in multiverse
[10:37] <cntb> I got spoiled intalling thing with apt-get jucato
[10:38] <Jucato> cntb: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[10:38] <Jucato> cntb: but make sure you have multiverse
[10:38] <cntb> mefisto__: Jucato tyvm  will get mozilla-mplayer
[10:38] <firecrotch> frojnd: You just need to add "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main" to your sources.list file
[10:38] <frojnd> tnx :)
[10:38] <cntb> but how do I instruct them to go to right folder
[10:38] <frojnd> easy way the fastest way
[10:38] <Jucato> firecrotch: edgy-commercial is empty
[10:38] <Jucato> cntb: it will install in the correct folders don't worry
[10:38] <cntb> its a dapper and I got FF2 in /opt/firefox Jucato mefisto__
[10:39] <Jucato> oh?
[10:39] <firecrotch> Jucato: then where did I get the package from?
[10:39] <cntb> Jucato:  ok
[10:39] <Jucato> hm.. not really sure on that one
[10:39] <Jucato> firecrotch: dapper-commercial?
[10:39] <firecrotch> Jucato: Nope, I don't have dapper-commercial in my sources.list
[10:39] <cntb> my test for it is this http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?arcane01.wav=arcane link
[10:39] <Jucato> firecrotch: ok let me check. maybe it change since I last checked
[10:40] <walec51> I set 192.168.1.7 in system settings->network and when I reboot a get 169.254.211178, could someone tell me what could be wrong?
[10:40] <cntb> jucato that is what I  wnated to solve in the first place
[10:40] <Jucato> firecrotch: hey cool they finally put it in! lol
[10:40] <DeMolay> walec51: no need to reboot when you change ip address
[10:41] <walec51> I know
[10:41] <Jucato> firecrotch: sorry bout that. but if you noticed, it was only put in Jan 24, 2007
[10:41] <walec51> it works when I set it
[10:41] <cntb> so mefisto__  Jucato mozilla-mplayer ?
[10:41] <firecrotch> Jucato: how can I check what packages are in what repo easily?
[10:41] <walec51> but when I reboot it changes when it shudent :)
[10:41] <Jucato> cntb: yes.
[10:42] <cntb>  no no mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version.
[10:42] <Jucato> firecrotch: no easy way, I went to the site manually. you can check, however, which repo a package is in. apt-cache policy <package>
[10:42] <cntb> I have tried since b4 yesterday
[10:42] <mefisto__> cntb: you mean you already have it installed?
[10:42] <cntb> how do I track where it is installed and move it to right place
[10:43] <cntb> scenario is this  mefisto__ still dapper here using FF2
[10:43] <DeMolay> walec51: maybe you should type ip settings directly in /etc/network/interfaces to be sure
[10:43] <firecrotch> Jucato: I may just have to write a script to find that out for me :)
[10:43] <mefisto__> cntb: ahh, FF2. I see
[10:43] <cntb> I see in /usr/bin an firefox ln to /opt/firefox
[10:44] <walec51> well /etc/network/interfaces is a funy thing, I have 192.168.1.9 set there
[10:44] <DeMolay> XD
[10:44] <mefisto__> cntb: so mozilla-mplayer is installed but not working in FF2 (on dapper)?
[10:45] <cntb> and mefisto__ plugins in /opt/firefox/plugins point back to  /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[10:45] <cntb> see mefisto__
[10:45] <walec51> when I reboot a have 192.168.1.9 in /etc/network/interfaces and 169.* in system-settings :)
[10:45] <DeMolay> walec51: if you type /sbin/ifconfig in console?
[10:46] <walec51> 169.254.211.178
[10:46] <cntb> so can I instruct different folderin sudo apt-get install and which is the right in this case for mozilla-mplayer mefisto__ ?
[10:46] <walec51> but my PC responces to bouth ...
[10:46] <DeMolay> how many net if's do you have in this machine?
 cntb: so mozilla-mplayer is installed but not working in FF2 (on dapper)? <<< exactly right tyvm
[10:47] <walec51> the problem is that samba isnt working until I set 192.168.1.* in system-settings
[10:47] <walec51> eth0 and lo
[10:49] <cntb> myabe as a first step I remove mozila-mplayer to re-instal in the right place ? mefisto__ ?
[10:49] <cntb> *maybe
[10:49] <mefisto__> do you know where the mplayer files are now?
[10:49] <juka> how do i turn on "auto complete" option in konqueror??
[10:49] <cntb> mefisto__:  how do I track that
[10:50] <walec51> this IP problem of mine is realy strange, when I had DHCP every thing worked fine
[10:50] <mefisto__> cntb: they are probably in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[10:50] <cntb> checking
[10:50] <cntb> ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins mefisto__
[10:51] <cntb> mefisto__:  exactly
[10:52] <mefisto__> cntb: so what you need to do is create links to those mplayer files in the FF2 /plugins directory. Or copy them to the FF2 /plugins directory
[10:52] <cntb> mefisto__:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6692/
[10:52] <cntb> ah you are so fast ;-)
[10:53] <cntb> ok links sounds a good idea
[10:54] <cntb> can you hear http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?arcane01.wav=arcane mefisto__ ?
[10:55] <cntb> you most prolly on edgy FF2  mefisto__ , right ?
[10:55] <mefisto__> cntb: yes to both questions
[10:56] <cntb> I need a link to each and every mplayer plugin there right ? mefisto__ and when will they appear in about:plugins ? is firefox restart taking care o putiing in about:plugins  ?
[10:57] <cntb> so now I go to /opt/firefox/plugins ? to make links to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ? mefisto__ ?
[10:57] <mefisto__> cntb: correct
[10:57] <cntb> OK bbl 5 min
[11:00] <usama> hello everyone!
[11:01] <usamahashimi> can we use xmms's .eqf file with mplayer?
[11:12] <cntb> mefisto__:  symbolic  links  solved it . worked. also about:plugins shows it
[11:12] <cntb> ty  mefisto__ Jucato as well
[11:13] <mefisto__> cntb: good work!
[11:13] <Jucato> nice
[11:14] <pointfivezero> Dunedin
[11:16] <cntb> So I think this deserves a page in help.ubuntu/community/ mefisto__ Jucato.  so how to remember solution ? IOW howto track mplayer 'sfolder one way is locate mplayer
[11:17] <usamahashimi> can we use xmms's .eqf file with mplayer?
[11:17] <cntb> do you know of such page there in help.ubuntu.com/community I mean ? one to be pointed by factoid maybe
[11:17] <cntb> !mplaye
[11:18] <cntb> !mplayer
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplaye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[11:18] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[11:18] <shan> how can i access my drive?
[11:19] <cntb> shan try to be specific
[11:19] <Jucato> cntb: I believe the wiki already has an instruction regarding installing Firefox from the firefox website
[11:19] <shan> i cant access my hard drive from linux
[11:20] <cntb> wow jucato surprise
[11:20] <cntb> MplayerInstallHowto
[11:20] <cntb> This page does not exist yet.
[11:20] <cntb> jucato maybe I write it and some of you check it pls?>
[11:21] <Jucato> cntb: that mplayer howto isn't about mplayer and firefox 2
[11:21] <Jucato> !firefox
[11:21] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:22] <cntb> mefisto__:  Jucato MplayerInstallHowto This page does not exist yet . maybe this will be the right place for the plugin howto ?
[11:22] <Jucato> cntb: look at those 2 links above
[11:22] <fadey> hi, everyone. I'm getting duplicates when pinging my provider. Has anyone seen smthn like this befor?
[11:22] <fadey> 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, +701 duplicates, 0% packet loss, time 1068ms
[11:22] <Jucato> cntb: there are already wiki pages for what you want  to write, I guess
[11:23] <cntb> I know Jucato https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto has to be about player itself rather than mozilla plugins
 cntb: I believe the wiki already has an instruction regarding installing Firefox from the firefox website <<< let us find it pls
[11:24] <Jucato> cntb: I already gave the links. look above
[11:24] <cntb> i am not that ambitious to write but if I need it badly for multiple installations then yes why not write a wiki
[11:25] <Jucato> !firefox | cntb
[11:25] <ubotu> cntb: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:26] <Jucato> cntb: check those pages. if the instructions seem to lack some things, try adding
[11:27] <cntb> ok jucato in troubleshooting section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins , ther is no mentioning of symbolic links fix . that is the missing part of chaim
[11:27] <cntb> *chain
[11:28] <Jucato> cntb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion#head-a18df3338b868ce5f14336fd2ee58ce6b5d574b2
[11:28] <Jucato> cntb: the instructions for Manual Install mentions it
[11:28] <cntb> youn know when in a hurry ppl foolow instructions yet dont think about some missing part like wrong path
[11:29] <cntb> [12:28]  <Jucato> cntb: the instructions for Manual Install mentions it <<< ah good ! ok
[11:29] <Jucato> !mplayer
[11:29] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[11:29] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs
[11:29] <Jucato> ok fixed that
[11:30] <cntb> fixed what jucato ? so quickly ? tyvm
[11:30] <Jucato> cntb: the bot pointing to a page that doesn't exist
[11:31] <cntb> ah the bot factoid ? I understand
[11:33] <cntb>  so MplayerInstallHowto  is covered mostly by the first link you say jucato ?
[11:34] <Jucato> cntb: the mlayerinstallhowto page doesn't exist anymore. it must have been deleted already because those other 2 mplayer pages cover it
[11:34] <cntb> good
[11:34] <cntb> gtg very helpful see you around
[11:37] <waylandbill> morning all. unless it's not morning there ;-)
[11:38] <vge> 12.38, not really :)
[11:38] <waylandbill> vge: just missed. :-)
[11:41] <Kite_DH> !customization
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about customization - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <Kite_DH> !customize
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about customize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <Kite_DH> !themes
[11:42] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:42] <Kite_DH> !changethemes
[11:42] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[11:42] <Kite_DH> !thx
[11:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <Jucato> Kite_DH: I suggest you add that changethemes page to your bookmarks...
[11:49] <waylandbill> ubotu doesn't know anything about thanks eh? ;-)
[11:50] <pointfivezero> !manners
[11:50] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:50] <pointfivezero> ha
[11:50] <Jucato> O.o
[11:51] <waylandbill> :)
[11:51] <Kite_DH> Jucato: ..yes :) thx for the tip, but hey...i dont get how to install themes anyway
[11:51] <Jucato> Kite_DH: what particular kind of "theme"?
[11:51] <pointfivezero> !tipping
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tipping - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <pointfivezero> !making love
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about making love - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <Kite_DH> Jucato: this one---> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=39007
[11:51] <Jucato> !botabuse | pointfivezero
[11:51] <ubotu> pointfivezero: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:51] <Jucato> Kite_DH: ok let me check
[11:51] <pointfivezero> hahaha... gotcha
[11:52] <Kite_DH> Jucato: when i download it i get a folder with 3 folders in it...what to do with them?? :(
[11:52] <Jucato> Kite_DH: it's a deKorator theme. check in the "Window Decorations" section of the CustomizeKubuntu wiki page
[11:53] <vge> !botsnack
[11:53] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:53] <Kite_DH> Jucato: i did that..but... :(
[11:53] <Jucato> Kite_DH: you don't have to extact the contents of the .tar.gz
[11:53] <Jucato> Kite_DH: do you have dekorator installed?
[11:53] <Kite_DH> Jucato: yes
[11:53] <Kite_DH> ok wait
[11:53] <Kite_DH> iLL test
[11:54] <Kite_DH> Jucato: it says i need a krsc file
[11:55] <Jucato> huh?
[11:55] <Jucato> !dekorator | Kite_DH
[11:55] <ubotu> kite_dh: dekorator: KDE theme manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2fix1-1 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 296 kB
[11:55] <Jucato> do you have that installed?
[11:55] <paulo> hello all!
[11:56] <Kite_DH> Jucato: yes i do
[11:56] <Jucato> Kite_DH: once you have dekorator installed, go to System Settings -> Appearance -> Window Decorations, and choose deKorator from the list
[11:57] <Rob-West> how hard is it to dual boot Kubuntu and windows
[11:57] <waylandbill> Rob-West: pretty simple.
[11:57] <Rob-West> well i have a 70 gig partition i made and
[11:57] <Rob-West> its still empty
[11:57] <Rob-West> so i was gonna try a dual boot
[11:58] <Jucato> !dual-boot
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual-boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <waylandbill> Rob-West: install windows first.
[11:58] <Jucato> !dualboot
[11:58] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[11:58] <pointfivezero> !grub
[11:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:58] <Rob-West> im in windows
[11:58] <Jucato> !dual-boot is <alias> dualboot
[11:58] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Jucato
[11:58] <Rob-West> this is a week old install
[11:58] <waylandbill> Rob-West: then install kubuntu. ;-)
[11:58] <Rob-West> where do i put grub
[11:59] <Kite_DH> Jucato: ok, and then?
[11:59] <Jucato> Kite_DH: you have dekorator already selected in the Window Decorations?
[11:59] <mart81> Rob-West: grub goes in the mbr, generally
[11:59] <Rob-West> so the main partition
[11:59] <waylandbill> Rob-West: kubuntu's installation will help you with that. Usually it will be on the boot drive's MBR in a single drive single.
[12:00] <waylandbill> s/single/system/
[12:00] <Jucato> !dual-boot
[12:00] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:00] <Kite_DH> Jucato: yes its selected now, now i can adjust somethings
[12:00] <waylandbill> Jucato: gonna have to do dual_boot next? :)
[12:01] <Rob-West> or does anyone have a computer they dont need
[12:01] <Jucato> Kite_DH: ok, go to the Themes tab (still in window decorations)
[12:01] <Jucato> waylandbill: nah :)
[12:01] <Kite_DH> ok
[12:01] <Jucato> Kite_DH: near the bottom, click on the Install New Theme button.
[12:01] <Kite_DH> awsome
[12:01] <Kite_DH> thank you
[12:02] <Jucato> Kite_DH: not yet over :)
[12:02] <Kite_DH> n then?
[12:02] <Jucato> Kite_DH: look for the .tar.gz theme you downloaded and click ok. once it's been added to the Themes list, select it, then click on Set Theme Path's button
[12:02] <Jucato> Kite_DH: then click Apply
[12:02] <Jucato> ok now over
[12:03] <mart81> Rob-West: no, grub goes inside the MBR if you go the normaly road, and the mbr is NOT part of any partition.
[12:03] <Kite_DH> oh wow
[12:03] <Kite_DH> =)
[12:03] <Kite_DH> thanks!
[12:03] <mart81> *normal
[12:03] <Kite_DH> lol
[12:03] <Jucato> heh
[12:03] <Jucato> Kite_DH: be sure to check the version of the theme you are adding
[12:03] <astarojilov>  
[12:03] <Kite_DH> yes papi ;)
[12:03] <Jucato> Kite_DH: the version of dekorator we have on Edgy is 0.2. so themes for dekorator 0.3 will not work
[12:03] <Kite_DH> ^^
[12:03] <Kite_DH> alright
[12:04] <Jazon> hi guys
[12:05] <Jazon> since edgy, my laptop fan runs for 5 seconds every 2 seconds and the cpu temp is fine btw (50 or so)
[12:05] <Jazon> it is a celeron M
[12:06] <Jazon> any suggestions?
[12:23] <Dekans> does anyone use kickoff with kubuntu 64 ?
[12:24] <ForgeAus> probably but I don't personally...
[12:24] <CVirus> Jazon: Frequency scaling that is .... Don't worry
[12:24] <Dekans> i don't find it
[12:24] <Dekans> :(
[12:24] <ForgeAus> !kickoff
[12:24] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[12:25] <pointfivezero> i hope it doesn't look arse ugly (IMO) like kbfx
[12:25] <ForgeAus> lol it doesn't look like kbfx to me
[12:25] <ForgeAus> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[12:26] <ForgeAus> the screenshot there looks yes kind of M$ windows-ish start menu but not in a kbfx way....
[12:26] <ForgeAus> seems more like an attempt at simplifying/reorganizing the k menu
[12:27] <Dekans> yes
[12:27] <Dekans> but no download link in this page
[12:27] <pointfivezero> i'll have to have a look into it...
[12:28] <waylandbill> sabayonLinux uses that kicker replacement.
[12:29] <ForgeAus> I thought kicker was the panel-bar not just the kmenu
[12:29] <pointfivezero> Dekans: if you find the x86_64 link could you post it here please
[12:29] <ForgeAus> baghira also has a kmenu replacemnt...
[12:29] <waylandbill> I meant kmenu
[12:29] <ForgeAus> point there may not be wone....
[12:29] <ForgeAus> grr one
[12:30] <pointfivezero> forgeaus: hmm ok
[12:30] <pointfivezero> forgeaus: i can compile kde4 stuff on here
[12:31] <Dekans> pointfivezero: of course but i don't find it ><
[12:31] <ForgeAus> I'm not saying there isn't just that ia64 is kinda new not everything has a 64 bit bersion yet...
[12:31] <ForgeAus> grr version
[12:31] <Dekans> i reposted on the kickoff topic in beryl forum, maybe i will have an answear this time ...
[12:31] <pointfivezero> Dekans: ok cheers
[12:32] <pointfivezero> Dekans: your AMD64?
[12:33] <waylandbill> with beagle & kerry, the kickoff's search is pretty useful I've found.
[12:35] <Dekans> pointfivezero: yes i use kubuntu 64
[12:35] <user01__> arafat
[12:37] <viviersf> can you still use a alternate cd and make it install without any desktop ?
[12:37] <pointfivezero> does anyone know how to get xvidcap on x86_64?
[12:37] <viviersf> like the old servers ?
[12:38] <yettenet> How can I add multiverse and universe to the repositories?
[12:39] <Dekans> in adept menu
[12:39] <Dekans> choose manage repositories
[12:39] <yettenet> Yup, I got there
[12:40] <Dekans> and enable the lines containing universe and multiverse
[12:40] <yettenet> Thanks
[12:44] <andrea> Buon giorno
[12:45] <andrea> Good mornig
[12:47] <yettenet> Is there a way to disable the one-click thingy in KDE?
[12:47] <vge> kde setting kcontrol
[12:48] <yettenet> Thanks :)
[12:48] <waylandbill> yettenet: kpersonalizer too
[12:48] <freemason> I'm running ubuntu linux distro and I would like to try a bsd system, can anyone help me how to install it and especially how to devide and format disc partitions
[12:48] <yettenet>  Hm
[12:49] <yettenet> I think only one question left
[12:49] <yettenet> moment, I'll pastebin it
[12:50] <waylandbill> freemason: qtparted or gparted will help with making room for it.
[12:51] <yettenet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6698/ <--- what could make this appear?
[12:51] <freemason> waylandbill: thanks a lot
[12:52] <vge> yettenet: can't help you on that one, have you tried system setting as a temp solution?
[12:53] <waylandbill> yettenet: those are usually because of the wacom devices in xorg.conf
[12:53] <yettenet> Thanks, bill
[12:53] <waylandbill> I commented out in mine and those warnings went away
[12:53] <yettenet> vge: Nah, I haven't done anything at all, it doesn't seem like it has any effect
[12:53] <yettenet> Except for this few lines
[12:54] <waylandbill> yettenet: it has an effect in some instances. Like. I've had smb4k butcher my sudoers file because of those warnings.
[12:55] <yettenet> Hm
[12:55] <yettenet> And how could I fix it?
[12:55] <yettenet> Any idea?
[12:55] <waylandbill> I've looked for the devices in the xorg.conf using the wacom driver and commented them out.
[12:55] <yettenet> ok
[12:55] <yettenet> I'll try
[12:56] <waylandbill> I commented out the devices themselves and in the ServerLayout where they are listed as well.
[12:57] <waylandbill> normally, they don't hurt anything, but I just didn't want them there and figured it won't hurt since my system doesn't have those devices anyway.
[12:57] <yettenet> :P
[12:57] <yettenet> Thanks
[12:58] <yettenet> By the way... does the console language depend on my location?
[12:58] <yettenet> You know... I'm located in Hungary but set the language to English
[12:58] <waylandbill> you mean for which one is detected?
[12:58] <yettenet> But some applications still use Hungarian as a language
[01:01] <Dekans> svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/work/suse_kickoff_qstyle
[01:03] <slipttees> hi all
[01:03] <slipttees> i have this problem
[01:03] <slipttees> rene@kubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:03] <slipttees> sudo: unable to lookup kubuntu via gethostbyname()
[01:03] <slipttees> :S
[01:05] <slipttees> somebody?
[01:06] <yettenet> restart
[01:06] <yettenet> :P
[01:12] <yettenet> waylandbill: It works, thanks :P
[01:13] <waylandbill> I knew it all along. :-)
[01:22] <eyedol59> i am trying to reconfigure my kernel but i when i type  make xconfig, i get a message that tells me that i do not have the QT library. I have already install the libqt4-lib poackage and all it dependencies. What i am missing?
[01:23] <Jucato> eyedol59: try libqt3-mt-dev
[01:24] <eyedol59> ok....i will try
 thanks man it worked !!!
[01:27] <Jucato> no problem
[01:27] <MuJ> there's xconfig! O_o
[01:27] <MuJ> and here I've been doing menuconfig always :(
[01:27] <Jucato> :P
[01:28] <MuJ> well.. learned something today.. now I can turn my brain off :D
[01:29] <waylandbill> :)
[01:32] <malik> is there any utility to turn off the computer automatically on a schedule?
[01:32] <waylandbill> cron
[01:33] <Jucato> kcron <-- KDE frontend
[01:37] <Jucato> waylandbill: it also supports man:/ and apt:/
[01:37] <waylandbill> I knew those
[01:38] <Jucato> settings:/ system:/ help:/ (hard to use), etc :)
[01:38] <waylandbill> too many to list. :-)
[01:39] <Jucato> ftp:/ sftp:/ http:/ https:/ file:/ media:/ trash:/ remote:/ tar:/ and some other installed by some apps like svn:/ obex:/ etc :)
[01:40] <waylandbill> I normally use beagle, but I installed kickoff and typed in the search bar and it showed an entry to use locate:
[01:48] <gnyffel> I'm trying to create a KDE panel shortcut that'll start up konsole and echo a message when pressed - only konsole quits when the command has been run. How do I keep it open?
[01:50] <Jucato> what's the command?
[01:51] <waylandbill> gnyffel: if you make a shortcut to it with "Link to Application" then one of the advanced options is to "Run in Terminal" and "Don't close terminal on completion"
[01:52] <waylandbill> isn't there an x dialog program that makes a dialog out of stuff that normally appears in a console?
[01:53] <Jucato> yeah. forgot the name. I think it's zenity... but that's GTK based
[01:54] <gnyffel> waylandbill: well, only kind of shortcut I'm seeing (right clicking and selecting add application to panel) is either to a .desktop file or 'non-KDE application', in which I only see the option run in terminal window - not the don't close one
[01:54] <gnyffel> waylandbill: but then I'm new to KDE. There might be something I'm missing.
[01:54] <waylandbill> right click the desktop and make a desktop shortcut and then tell move it to the panel in a second step.
[01:55] <ForgeAus> Jucato is it true Dolphin is slated to be the KDE4 file manager?
[01:55] <gnyffel> Ah, I see it now
[01:55] <Jucato> ForgeAus: might be. doesn't mean Konqueror's going though
[01:56] <Jucato> it just might be the default app that gets run for file management
[01:56] <ForgeAus> I don't understand that one.... why not strengthen and base around Konqueror?... isn't Dolphin too much like Thunar/Nautilus?
[01:56] <waylandbill> Jucato: it's xdialog that I was thinking of and yes... it's gtk based.
[01:56] <Jucato> ForgeAus: have you actually used Dolphin?
[01:56] <Jucato> ForgeAus: there are many reasons, almost all of them technical
[01:57] <ForgeAus> ok and yes
[01:57] <ForgeAus> I have used it
[01:57] <Jucato> ForgeAus: do take note however, that most of the stuff that's being done on Dolphin will eventually make its way to Konqueror
[01:57] <Jucato> ForgeAus: what version have you used? it is definitely superior to Nautilus, yet simpler than Konqi
[01:57] <ForgeAus> so dolphin kinda becomes a kpart of konqueror?
[01:57] <Jucato> no
[01:58] <ForgeAus> 0.6.0 its different than I remember
[01:58] <ForgeAus> and yeah it is very simple
[01:58] <Jucato> Dolphin is an app of its own. It uses the same KPart technology that Konqueror uses, but adds its own unique improvements, specially usability improvements
[01:58] <LjL> aaaaaah dolphin a kpart
[01:58] <LjL> noooo
[01:59] <Jucato> current Dolphin version is 0.8.2
[01:59] <Jucato> it's worth compiling if you're really curious as to its strengths. granted there are a few things I still don't like about it
[01:59] <LjL> what is the stuff that is in dolphin and is *not* in konqueror?
[01:59] <Jucato> but it's not as sucky as most people presume it is...
[01:59] <LjL> i've only used the packaged version
[02:00] <LjL> i don't presume. besides, file managers shouldn't be a huge (if very powerful) mess, in my opinion - at least not the *standard* desktop file browser. then if you want power, you fire up midnight commander or whatever suits your tastes
[02:00] <Jucato> breadcrumb views. the convenient split/unsplit view button, status bar showing the used/free space
[02:00] <Jucato> LjL: any particular reason you thought I was referring to you?
[02:01] <Jucato> oh, and separate breadcrumbs/location field per view
[02:01] <ForgeAus> maybe because I was in XFCE4 when I was running it?
[02:01] <LjL> Jucato: no... but come on, this channel's discussions are 100% offtopic 80% of the time, may i not go on rants? >:
[02:01] <Jucato> LjL: oh sure. just don't go on kicking us :P
[02:02] <Jucato> still missing (hope they get implemented): tabs and tree view sidebar
[02:02] <LjL> so it becomes exactly like konqueror? :P
[02:02] <Jucato> LjL: nope. you can't do http:
[02:02] <ForgeAus> good point
[02:02] <apokryphos> I don't think tabs will be implemented
[02:03] <apokryphos> they're trying to encourage split view
[02:03] <Jucato> apokryphos: I think they will, last I asked
[02:03] <ForgeAus> kinda counters with Thunar, Thunder and Water... hmmm...
[02:03] <LjL> Jucato: well, you can but it ends up in konqueror, isn't that the point?
[02:03] <jott> Jucato: can dolphin 0.8.2 finally be controlled by keyboard? the v0.6 was a real pain ...
[02:03] <Jucato> the point is Dolphin has a cleaner base code to begin with. so they can safely and comfortably build on top of that
[02:04] <apokryphos> right, but also dolphin will never be like Konqueror. Very different aims.
[02:04] <Jucato> eventually, those features will make their way into KOnqueror, that is, if Konqueror's own code base doesn't get a cleanup first
[02:04] <Jucato> Dolphin is a file manager. period. Konqueror is a whole lot more
[02:04] <gnyffel> Oh ffs. My shortcut starts konsole, echos hello, but then it becomes inactive. I've kept it open with the -noclose switch, but I don't need it to just remain open - I want to be able to enter commands there as well
[02:05] <Jucato> gnyffel: how about echoing Hello from one of the bash config files instead? so that everytime you open up a bash session, you'll see that hello?
[02:06] <LjL> Jucato: in my view, konqueror should be a *file viewer*. not just a web browser, of course, since that makes no sense, it's fine that it shows PDFs and whatever kpart you throw at it... just not a directory view. a directory view is not a "document", and forcing it to fit it into that paradigm is a mistake
[02:06] <LjL> a directory is a collection of file - it's useless to pretend it's a file itself (though, well, from the FS point of view, it sort of is)
[02:06] <Jucato> LjL: a directory is technically a file, and fits in with the "file viewer" paradigm
[02:07] <gnyffel> Jucato: well, that's certainly a possibility (mind you, I've no idea as to the technical minutiae of what you're suggesting, but I get the point, what it does), but ideally, I don't want the echo in every konsole I start - just ones by this shortcut
[02:07] <Jucato> gnyffel: what's the exact command you are using for the shorcut? try putting & after the "echo hello" command
[02:08] <gnyffel> '/usr/bin/konsole' -e echo hello & - still quits
[02:09] <Jucato> -e 'echo hello &' ?
[02:09] <LjL> Jucato: well, i beg to differ. i don't see you giving many more arguments for that than i did against. that is, none in either case. but a directory *contains* files. it's a set. no other file contains files. that's a difference, and a big enough one in my opinion.
[02:09] <Jucato> doesn't work... :(
[02:10] <bumzo> NEED HELP IN INSTALLING ''limewirelinux.rpm
[02:10] <bumzo> SOMEBODY PLEASE
[02:10] <bumzo> the file is on my desktop
[02:10] <Jucato> !caps | bumzo
[02:10] <ubotu> bumzo: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:10] <bumzo> oops ... sory
[02:10] <Jucato> LjL: love to continue discussing/debating with you, but duty calls :)
[02:10] <gnyffel> I can't, I'm hard of hearing ;_;
[02:11] <jott> gnyffel: you could write a script that has the "echo" in it and at the end you could call bash..
[02:11] <bumzo> can anyone help please
[02:11] <bumzo> am sooooo green
[02:11] <Jucato> !limewire
[02:11] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[02:11] <bumzo> am running kubuntu
[02:12] <Jucato> !frostwire
[02:12] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[02:12] <bumzo> how do i install java
[02:12] <Jucato> bumzo: try following what the bot gave, and read the links
[02:12] <Jucato> !java
[02:12] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:12] <Anonimek> !sex
[02:12] <Anonimek> :P
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <bumzo> lol
[02:13] <bumzo> what the fuck is Multiverse repository
[02:13] <bumzo> ?
[02:13] <bumzo> pleae ... use english
[02:13] <bumzo> am a rookie
[02:13] <gnyffel> A repository that you might need to enable in your /etc/apt/sources.lst to download certain files.
[02:13] <LjL> !language
[02:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:13] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[02:14] <LjL> multiverse is a community-mantained repository of non-free packages (or packages with non-free dependencies)
[02:14] <bumzo> ok ... what is Multiverse repository
[02:14] <LjL> !repos
[02:14] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:14] <jott> i wonder what's the longest chain of references on ubotu is.. like !limewire -> !java ->  !multiverse -> !easysource .... :)
[02:15] <jay_> what's wrong with this line... tryin to print the length of each string
[02:15] <jay_> for i in $(ls  dbinterfaces | grep "\.java$"); do echo ${i:(0):(10)}; done;
[02:15] <jay_> for i in $(ls  dbinterfaces | grep "\.java$"); do echo ${len($i)}; done;
[02:17] <bumzo> need help please
[02:18] <bumzo> obutu ... u have many inks ,.... i just need small assistance
[02:19] <bumzo> somebody pleeeeese
[02:19] <LjL> bumzo: perhaps explain what the matter is
[02:19] <MidMark> !please
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about please - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> is there a utility on the livecd that will check for errors on a harddrive that isn't formatted as ext2?
[02:20] <bumzo> i have a file ''limewirelinux.rpm'' on my desktop
[02:20] <bumzo> so how do i go abt installing it
[02:20] <LjL> dettoaltrimenti_: no. besides, raw HD "errors" aren't an easy thing to define. HDs have CRCs, but they correct based on that in the hardware
[02:20] <LjL> dettoaltrimenti_: you can use smartmontools, however, to check the HD sensors
[02:21] <dettoaltrimenti_> ljl- when I try to install kubuntu, it gets stuck while copying files to the HD, always at 69%- what could that be/
[02:22] <MidMark> bumzo: rpm -Uvh <file.rpm>
[02:22] <LjL> dettoaltrimenti_: have you checked the *CD* (not the HD) for defects, for starters?
[02:22] <bumzo> midmarrk ... i type that in the terminal??
[02:22] <LjL> !rpm
[02:22] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:22] <LjL> !limewire
[02:22] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[02:22] <dettoaltrimenti_> ljl I'll dpo that now
[02:22] <LjL> dettoaltrimenti_: it's an option in the CD boot menu
[02:23] <MidMark> bumzo: sorry add "sudo" prefix or follow that instructions ^^^
[02:23] <hazim> a software for ubuntu ppc to reproduction avi?
[02:23] <bumzo> so how do i change rpm to kubuntu rteadable file?
[02:23] <LjL> hazim: VLC maybe?
[02:23] <MidMark> hazim: all just install codecs
[02:24] <LjL> bumzo: what about "don't"? it's not a good idea, really.
[02:24] <bumzo> please type out the whole syntax please midmark
[02:24] <LjL> if you want to, use alien.
[02:24] <LjL> if you don't understand how alien is used, then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
[02:24] <MidMark> bumzo: sudo rpm -Uvh limewirelinux.rpm
[02:24] <bumzo> i just need to install limewire .... how do i do it?
[02:24] <hazim> thx ;-)   i will find vlc now
[02:24] <MidMark> but first you have to install rpm package from adept
[02:25] <LjL> hazim: no need to "find" it, it's in universe.
[02:25] <LjL> !vlc | hazim
[02:25] <ubotu> hazim: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:25] <LjL> !info vlc | hazim
[02:25] <ubotu> hazim: vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[02:25] <LjL> just type "sudo apt-get install vlc" with universe enabled
[02:25] <bumzo> ''sudo rpm command not found''
[02:25] <MidMark> bumzo: you have to install rpm package, I have said ^^^^
[02:25] <hazim> !vlc
[02:25] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[02:25] <MidMark> bumzo: please read!
[02:26] <bumzo> how do i do taht mark?
[02:26] <bumzo> what is adept?
[02:26] <LjL> !adept
[02:26] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:26] <MidMark> search for it you have installed by default
[02:26] <MidMark> or read ^
[02:27] <bumzo> ok .. i have it
[02:27] <bumzo> i have right clicked on the limwrie file and told it to open with adept
[02:27] <bumzo> will that work?
[02:28] <LjL> no
[02:28] <LjL> look why don't you just follow the instructions!
[02:28] <LjL> !limewire
[02:28] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[02:28] <LjL> !frostwire
[02:28] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[02:29] <bumzo> shuld i install frost wire?
[02:29] <MidMark> bumzo: the problem you are newbie (not a very problem here) but I don't read what we write and you don't follow links
[02:29] <bumzo> anyway .. adept is open .. what next?
[02:29] <MidMark> !adept
[02:29] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:29] <bumzo> ok ... am learning. I will read anything u put here
[02:29] <MidMark> follow the link and read!
[02:29] <bumzo> adept open
[02:30] <LjL> what i am saying is: we have *specific* instructions as to how to install LimeWire (or FrostWire, which might be a better idea). so why are you insisting on using that RPM, when you don't even know what an RPM is and how it's used?
[02:31] <dettoaltrimenti_> ljl the cd is fine- what else can I check?
[02:32] <LjL> dettoaltrimenti_: dunno really. i've heard about many people whose installations stopped like this, but never quit understood the culprit. you could try the usual "noapic" or "acpi=off" kernel options, or you could jump straight to trying the alternate CD instead
[02:33] <MidMark> dettoaltrimenti_: what is the problem?
[02:33] <bumzo> midmark
[02:33] <bumzo> i cant locate the limewirelinux.rmp file
[02:34] <hazim> !universe
[02:34] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:34] <bumzo> from !adept
[02:34] <BluesKaj> bumzo, kubuntu doesn't use 'rpm' files .
[02:34] <waylandbill> bumzo: you don't want to use the rpm file. and most of the time you don't want to use any rpm files.
[02:35] <bumzo> k .. waht files does kubuntu use then????/
[02:35] <MidMark> deb file
[02:35] <waylandbill> debs
[02:35] <bumzo> and how do u install .deb?
[02:35] <MidMark> bumzo: open adept, search for frostwire and install it
[02:36] <MidMark> it's the same and free version as limewire
[02:36] <Johny_> hey, is it possible to use a dictionary witk Kmail, just like in Thunderbird?
[02:36] <MidMark> if you cannot find it it's because you have to open universe repo then
[02:36] <MidMark> !universe
[02:36] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:36] <MidMark> that it!
[02:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> midmark- when I try to install kubuntu 6.10, when it says 'copying files' around 70% every time it locks up and turns the computer off
[02:38] <MidMark> every time at 70%?
[02:39] <MidMark> dettoaltrimenti_: because I had a similar problem but was a pc with a processor that was too hot, after changed the fan all works ok
[02:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> midmark I'll give it a try, I'll put the computer outside for a second
[02:40] <waylandbill> it's also possible that around 70% is where screen blanking tries to come on.
[02:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> ill try that too waylandbill
[02:41] <waylandbill> (if the mouse hadn't been moved after starting the file copy of course) you may try moving the mouse part way through. can't hurt.
[02:41] <blue|palm> are there any problems with beryl/xgl/flgrx and opengl fullscreen apps?
[02:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> I still think it's an error on the HD that could be fixed with something like fsck, except the HD isn't ext2
[02:42] <waylandbill> dettoaltrimenti_: what partition type are you installing to? is the error on that partition or another?
[02:42] <frojnd> !counterstrike
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about counterstrike - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:42] <frojnd> !cs
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <frojnd> !games
[02:43] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[02:43] <jay_> how can i use a shell script to set the proxy in konqueror?
[02:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> waylandbill I'm choosing the option to totally reformat the drive, which is now a fat32 partition
[02:44] <waylandbill> dettoaltrimenti_: and you're trying to keep it fat32?
[02:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> no, I'm trying to install kubuntu
[02:44] <frojnd> if I do this:
[02:44] <frojnd> sudo apt-get install cvs build-essential bison flex-old libasound2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg62-dev libfreetype6-dev libxrender-dev libttf2 libttf-dev libfontconfig1-dev wine
[02:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> I was saying I need to check the disk for errors, but I can't with fsck because fsck only works with ext2 partitions
[02:44] <frojnd> will I install all those packages?
[02:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> yes frojnd
[02:45] <ubuntu> Hello.
[02:45] <ubuntu> I'm trying to ... well, first, is anyone here?
[02:45] <waylandbill> dettoaltrimenti_: the automatic partitioning should make the parition ext3 before even copying files.
[02:45] <ubuntu> Cool!
[02:46] <ubuntu> Okay, um, I'm trying to save files from a Web browser, Konqueror, in Kubuntu Live CD.
[02:46] <ubuntu> How is this possible?
[02:46] <ubuntu> The Live CD version seems to absolutely forbid any disk access.
[02:46] <waylandbill> ubuntu: on removable media or a manually mounted partition.
[02:46] <ubuntu> Except of course from the read-only CD-ROM.
[02:47] <juka> hello
[02:47] <juka> anyone here using KINO for capturing video?
[02:47] <ubuntu> Trying to mount a disk results in the message that one must be root, and root access appears to be disallowed.
[02:47] <ubuntu> A nice Catch-22.
[02:47] <waylandbill> ubuntu: sudo or kdesu will take care of that.
[02:47] <juka> I'm wondering if it can capture through composite video in... it says everywhere DV but no composite...
[02:47] <chavo> ubuntu use sudo to mount
[02:48] <ubuntu> Hmmm ... sudo ... okay, gonna try this again, chavo and waylandbill. :)
[02:48] <ubuntu> *goes to reopen the terminal*
[02:49] <ScarFreewill> anyone know any good java opensource cross platform installers?
[02:50] <ScarFreewill> i've been looking at izpack
[02:51] <Johny_> !search aspell
[02:51] <ubotu> Found:
[02:52] <AMorozov> Hi!
[02:52] <Johny_> !search dictionary
[02:52] <ubotu> Found:
[02:53] <AMorozov> Could anybody describe and/or show how kubuntu handles media:/ and system:/ ioslaves ?
[02:53] <AMorozov> I'd like to know if it shows actually connected devices or just their mountpoints within /media directory ?
[02:54] <mauro> ScarFreewill: what do you mean by an installer ?
[02:54] <BluesKaj> look in systemsettings/hardware
[02:54] <mauro> something that will install java or something that will install the apps you make ?
[02:56] <AMorozov> I see that kubuntu_76_kickermedia.diff by Simon Edwards is intended to change the behaviour significantly, and would like to estimate it without actually apply and recompile kdebase.
[02:56] <AMorozov> Unfortunately I do not have kubuntu yet, so I can't check it myself.
[02:56] <Johny_> !help
[02:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:58] <Johny_> hey, how to use dictionaries with kmail?
[02:58] <Johny_> I've got all the aspell modules installed
[02:58] <AMorozov> So if anybody could post a screenshot of new media and system, that would be appreciated.
[02:59] <AMorozov> Johny_: you should configure spell checking in the Control Center -> KDE Components.
[03:00] <Johny_> AMorozov: already done, no dict there
[03:01] <AMorozov> Johny_: do you have both dictionaries and aspell installed ?
[03:01] <AMorozov> If you do, can you use spell checking within, say, Kate ?
[03:01] <Johny_> AMorozov: the dictionaries yes, do i have to install "aspell package"?
[03:02] <Johny_> AMorozov: some kind of "main module"
[03:03] <Johny_> AMorozov: I chekced a minute ago, it's installed
[03:03] <ubuntu> All righty! Finally got a file copied to a floppy diskette, using sudo in a terminal!
[03:04] <gnyffel> I seem to remember there being some kind of convenience macro for switching between sound cards
[03:04] <ubuntu> Thanks, waylandbill and chavo.
[03:04] <mips> what do I have to add to feisty besides w32codecs & libdvdcss2 for multimedia playback ?
[03:05] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: sorry afk...
[03:05] <jay_> what ever does "bad substitution" mean? look at this code
[03:05] <Johny_> !codecs | mip
[03:05] <ubotu> mip: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:05] <jay_> string="this is a substring test"
[03:05] <jay_> substring=${string:10:9}
[03:05] <soulrider> ok ScarFreewill
[03:05] <jay_> bad substitution error
[03:05] <AMorozov> Johny_: can you spellcheck in kate or kwrite? If so, go to kmail settings, choose a profile and select appropriate dictionary for it.
[03:06] <jay_> not from konsole, but whenI have it in a script it gives an error
[03:06] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: i mean an app that is writen in java and its open source and it paks files and unpaks them
[03:06] <soulrider> ah... uhm.. io have no idea :P
[03:06] <mips> ubotu, I followed that but why would I install gstreamer into kde ?
[03:07] <soulrider> ScarFreewill: if you know enougyh java you can make your own
[03:07] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: i know but it takes time
[03:07] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: not like zip like msi insaller except it runs with java api and not .net framework
[03:07] <AMorozov> Johny_: smth like: configure kmail -> profiles -> advanced.
[03:07] <cosmin> can anyone give me a link to how to upgrade kde from 3.55 to 3.56 ?
[03:07] <cosmin> in ubuntu 6.10
[03:07] <mips> johny_, I followed that but why would I install gstreamer into kde ?
[03:08] <soulrider> ScarFreewill: i dont know of nay program thatc an do that but theres probably one.. somewhere. But doesnt the java web start thingy do something similar ?
[03:09] <mips> Johny_, I followed that but why would I install gstreamer into kde ? kubunut uses xine
[03:09] <AMorozov> mips: generally, you should not. You should install libxine.
[03:09] <Johny_> AMorozov: the spell-checking options are available but don't seem to work. I'll try to ckeck out Kmail anyway
[03:09] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: http://www.izforge.com/izpack/
[03:09] <waylandbill> jay_: what are to trying to do?
[03:09] <AMorozov> Johny_: you mean even in kwrite ?
[03:10] <AMorozov> COuld anybody post a screenshot with system:/ folder ?
[03:10] <Johny_> AMorozov: Now i'm not sure, It seems to work in Kmail though
[03:10] <AMorozov> ... and media:/
[03:11] <Johny_> AMorozov: Maybe the problem is that I don't know well how to use and configure "kate"
[03:11] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: what do you think is the best way of "transporting" java apps (like with web start, a native installer, a crossplatform java installer, zip...)
[03:12] <ForgeAus> how do you take a screenshot of a window?
[03:12] <AMorozov> Johny_: also make sure that you have turned on Options -> Automatic spellchecking within composer window.
[03:12] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: i know web start will be easier since i don't have to create pkgs but its not so user friendly
[03:12] <AMorozov> ForgeAus: Alt+PrntScrn
[03:12] <Johny_> AMorozov: AMorozov: I do already checked
[03:13] <jott> jay_: remember you are doing bash operations and /bin/sh may point to dash not bash...
[03:13] <Johny_> AMorozov: thanks for help
[03:13] <AMorozov> Ok :-)
[03:14] <soulrider> ScarFreewill: interesting app
[03:14] <AMorozov> ForgeAus: ... and then Control-V in a desktop or in a konqueror file view.
[03:14] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, do you have Prt Scr key , use that and save as...
[03:14] <AMorozov> Control-V means 'Paste'
[03:14] <ForgeAus> will a jpg do?
[03:14] <ForgeAus> erm sorry png I saved it as
[03:15] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: do you know gcj?
[03:15] <soulrider> gcj ?
[03:15] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: its the opensource java, java vm
[03:16] <AMorozov> ForgeAus: there's also a small plugin published on kde-apps.org to host any selected image on imageshack :-)
[03:16] <soulrider> oh really? i have allways used hte official thing
[03:16] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: you can create natives exe,so,dll... with it from .class.
[03:16] <AMorozov> soulrider: it's rather incompleted AFAIK.
[03:16] <juka> i installed a video capture program through adept manager but I don't know how to start it.... anyone????
[03:16] <ForgeAus> is that a website kinda like flikr or something?
[03:16] <juka> it is not in the "start" menu
[03:17] <ScarFreewill> soulrider: i also use sun, but i like the ideas they have for it
[03:17] <ForgeAus> AMorozov did you get a DCC request from me?
[03:17] <AMorozov> Have to go, bye.
[03:17] <BluesKaj> flickr dumped my pics ...damn yahoo
[03:17] <ForgeAus> guess not
[03:17] <juka> anyone?
[03:17] <juka> i installed a video capture program through adept manager but I don't know how to start it.... anyone????
[03:18] <ScarFreewill> while i was looking for a good java installer app i found http://www.xpde.com/index.php this suprised me alot!
[03:18] <waylandbill> juka: what program?
[03:19] <juka> libmjpegtools-dev
[03:19] <gnyffel> Does anyone know how to switch default sound card? I know there was a command to do so in gnome.
[03:19] <waylandbill> juka: that a development library, not a program
[03:19] <Cam0> is there a way to sort k-menu entries into alphabetic order?
[03:19] <juka> :(
[03:19] <juka> it says lots of stuff about video capture...
[03:20] <juka> Kino doesn't work with composite in, only DV... what else should I use?
[03:20] <waylandbill> juka: you need one of the programs that use the library.
[03:21] <BluesKaj> gnyffel, you blacklist one ...forgtten the eact commands tho , or you could disable it in the BIOS peripherals
[03:21] <juka> maybe you know which one?
[03:21] <gnyffel> BluesKaj: I think I need a solution that's feasible to use on the fly. Though, I suppose the blacklisting think could be done by macro.
[03:22] <matthias_> hi
[03:23] <BluesKaj> gnyffel, not sure ..the "experts" here can help i'm sure ... waylandbill ?
[03:23] <matthias_> I have some problems with my sound card
[03:23] <matthias_> or rather the driver
[03:23] <BluesKaj> which card matthias_?
[03:23] <waylandbill> gnyffel: blacklisting could do it.
[03:24] <matthias_> but the problem is acctually the drivers
[03:24] <mips> how can i check if my cpu supports kvm ?
[03:24] <matthias_> so yesterday alsa worked fine
[03:24] <BluesKaj> still, gotta know which card matthias_
[03:24] <waylandbill> gnyffel: you want to hot swap the sound devices or is it okay to reboot?
[03:24] <matthias_> okay hang on
[03:25] <gnyffel> waylandbill: hot swapping is preferred. That's what I do in windows, and what I used to do in gnome.
[03:25] <ngatang> hi where can i get Kubuntu's program?
[03:25] <BluesKaj> !Kubuntu
[03:25] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:25] <gnyffel> waylandbill: if hotswapping isn't available, I'm better off buying a switch or swapping the cables manually.
[03:25] <matthias_> C-media P
[03:26] <matthias_> C-media PCI CMI8738 (model 37)
[03:27] <matthias_> but now i have also a second sound card but then onboard
[03:27] <juka> IS there a video capture program for kubuntu that is not Kino (it works only with DV cameras)?
[03:27] <matthias_> a NVidia CK804 With ALC655
[03:27] <waylandbill> gnyffel: in the sound system, hardware, you can try to "override device location"
[03:27] <gnyffel> waylandbill: and then use /dev/dsp(n)?
[03:27] <waylandbill> gnyffel: right
[03:29] <jott> juka: afair mencoder supports v4l capturing...
[03:30] <matthias_> euhm
[03:30] <cosmin> hi, i have installed ubuntu 6.10 and now i installed kububtu-desktop package, and i want to uninstall gnome, any ideas ?
[03:31] <cosmin> if i run apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop it says package is not installed
[03:31] <BluesKaj> not familar with those soundcards matthias_...have you tried the kubuntu forums ?
[03:31] <matthias_> no
[03:31] <BluesKaj> do so
[03:31] <slyfox> How to I make Kubuntu remember my Laptop Screen brightness settings? Everytime I login it sets the brightness back to maximum ?
[03:34] <juka> jott: i see it's only an encoder, i need a program to capture video through my TV card, is that it?
[03:34] <waylandbill> cosmin: I think gnome is the the package you want.
[03:36] <waylandbill> matthias_: you now have two cards and the wrong one is being used?
[03:36] <cosmin> Package gnome is not installed, so not removed
[03:36] <matthias_> no
[03:36] <jott> juka: its an encoder but it can encode from a v4l device.. (like a tv card when it's v4l)
[03:36] <matthias_> but now the sound wont want to come out
[03:36] <matthias_> if u know what i mean
[03:36] <BluesKaj> Gv4l , juka
[03:37] <Dr_willis> hmm.. went to copy some files from one hd to another...  system locked up and started going 'beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee' (one long continus beep)
[03:37] <waylandbill> matthias_: you said earlier that you had a second onboard card.
[03:37] <Dr_willis> had to hit the reset button.
[03:37] <Dr_willis> never seen that happen befor
[03:37] <matthias_> yeah
[03:38] <matthias_> but that one doesnt want to work
[03:38] <waylandbill> cosmin: removing a package that's not there will give you that error of course.
[03:38] <Jucato> cosmin: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[03:38] <matthias_> i dont know whats wrong with it but even in windows with the wright drivers it doesnt works
[03:39] <waylandbill> Jucato: he wants to put gnome in
 hi, i have installed ubuntu 6.10 and now i installed kububtu-desktop package, and i want to uninstall gnome, any ideas ? <--- I was answering this
[03:39] <waylandbill> matthias_: have you blacklisted the non-functional one?
[03:39] <waylandbill> Jucato: yes you're right. my bad.
[03:40] <cosmin> thanks
[03:40] <matthias_> no
[03:41] <matthias_> how do i do that?
[03:41] <shinobi> does anyone know how kde/kubuntu decides which icon to mount drives with on the desktop?
[03:41] <shinobi> and where to change that
[03:41] <Jucato> shinobi: it's in the icon theme
[03:41] <waylandbill> ok. you need to figure out the module that gets loaded for it. What type of card is it (lspci)
[03:41] <shinobi> sure
[03:41] <shinobi> but it differentiates between various drives...by size i think
[03:42] <Jucato> shinobi: nope. same icon for all drives, regardless of drive capacity
[03:42] <shinobi> so it picks an icon based on some parameters i'm guessing
[03:42] <shinobi> jucato: so how come my psp shows up with an ipod icon and my walkman shows up as a regular hard drive?
[03:42] <shinobi> the psp is 1gb
[03:42] <shinobi> the walkman is 30gb
[03:43] <Jucato> shinobi: I guess it depends on how the system sees those devices.
[03:43] <matthias_> euhm
[03:43] <shinobi> right
[03:43] <Dr_willis> i wonder if it sscans for files on the device
[03:43] <shinobi> must be defined somewhere
[03:46] <shinobi> dr willis: sounds like a explanation, but doesn't make sense
[03:46] <shinobi> because i have mixed media on all the drives
[03:47] <shinobi> right now i have four separate usb drives plugged in
[03:47] <waylandbill> shinobi: yes. it's based on the devices and the icons you have defined in control center, appearance, icons
[03:47] <shinobi> wayland bill: nice call, let me check it out
[03:48] <waylandbill> shinobi: ultimately, they are stored under /usr/share/icons
[03:49] <juka> so I installed mencoder from adept, but where is it now?
[03:49] <juka> jott
[03:49] <soulrider> juka: check your kmenu
[03:49] <soulrider> or just type mercoder in a console
[03:49] <jott> juka: mencoder is a console app..
[03:49] <juka> :(
[03:50] <shinobi> wayland bill: hold on, this is just the icon definitions
[03:50] <juka> how do I capture video then?
[03:50] <ForgeAus> ok how do I fix this error message: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:50] <juka> I just want something simple, to see the video on my screen and just click capture...
[03:51] <shinobi> wayland bill: i understand that the range of available icons and which icon i want to use is in the icons folders and or icon control panel
[03:51] <shinobi> wayland bill: what i mean is why are there separate icons appearing for the drives i mount
[03:51] <shinobi> wayland bill: either they're all the same, or that is defined somewhere
[03:52] <waylandbill> shinobi: you mean like certain one for a certain kind of device?
[03:52] <jott> juka: ok i must admit mencoder is not that "click to capture" simple :)
[03:52] <Dr_willis> !search menucoder
[03:52] <ubotu> Found:
[03:52] <Dr_willis> but it has power!
[03:52] <Dr_willis> !search mencoder
[03:53] <jott> juka:  try something like ... mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l:width=352:height=288:device=/dev/video0  or any other width/height..
[03:53] <shinobi> yes
[03:53] <jott> and see if you get an picture
[03:53] <shinobi> wayland bill: exactly
[03:53] <griffjon> I have two annoying problems - most importantly, suspend and hibernate are inconsistent at best (compiz/kde/edgy on a Dell LAt c640) and secondly, I'm having problems with turning the wireless off (iwconfig wifi0 txpower off goes through, but the Dell network led lights don't deactivate - while this I don't think means the wifi is still on, I don't want some security-paranoid airline employee hassling me on my next fli
[03:54] <waylandbill> shinobi: I've taken one of the filenames and doing a system wide grep. If it's defined textually I'll find it. :-)
[03:54] <shinobi> wayland bill: good idea
[03:55] <shinobi> wayland bill: what did you search for
[03:55] <waylandbill> smart_media_mount
[03:56] <shinobi> wayland bill: how did you choose that?
[03:57] <Kite_DH> how to play VCD with VLC?
[03:58] <shinobi> Kite_DH: did you easyubuntu?
[03:58] <Jucato> !easyubuntu
[03:58] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[03:58] <Dr_willis> vlc should be able to play them.. same as ya plaay a dvd. i think.. ive rarely used vcd's  but i think it played them . heh heh
[03:58] <Dr_willis> no vcd's handy to test
[03:58] <Jucato> kaffeine can play vcd's too
[03:58] <shinobi> Kite_DH: codecs?
[03:58] <Kite_DH> yes, i played it with kaffeine, but it stopped after 2min
[03:58] <Kite_DH> :(
[03:58] <waylandbill> shinobi: because it's in /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/128x128/devices
[03:59] <waylandbill> shinobi: nothing hit on it yet. might be defined in a library and may not be configurable.
[04:00] <Jucato> most probably in the source code even
[04:00] <shinobi> waylandbill:
[04:00] <Jucato> shinobi: try #kde. they might know
[04:00] <angasule> !kmail
[04:00] <ubotu> kmail: KDE Email client. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2174 kB, installed size 6724 kB
[04:00] <shinobi> waylandbill: i see, seems odd. must be defined somewhere...
[04:01] <vioscar> hola donde puedo encontrar ayuda para instalar el driver nvidia?
[04:01] <vioscar> #kubuntu-es
[04:01] <waylandbill> shinobi: could be in the source of a library
[04:02] <cntb> I have an issue for quite a long time , several months actually. We here use at list two languages on Desktop most of the time. We change keyboard language globally on all the system with Alt- Shift usually
[04:02] <Jucato> shinobi: of course it would be defined somewhere. but most probably, it's hardcoded into the source
[04:02] <cntb> On some systems it worked and some I stiil am stuck one of them is this dapper
[04:02] <shinobi> waylandbill: i mean should be defined in some kubuntu/kde documents, just came up blank on google
[04:02] <cntb> Now changing here only from tray
[04:03] <shinobi> waylandbill: maybe bad search
[04:04] <cntb> this is my xkb command  setxkbmap -option numpad:microsoft,grp:ctrl_shift_toggle,grp:alt_shift_toggle ,but still it wont toggle
[04:05] <cntb> why alt-shift wont toggle
[04:05] <angasule> how do I restore the kmail icon? the kubuntu wiki doesn't return any results for 'kmail' (don't tell me about kontact, it takes 15 seconds to load, vs kmail which takes 5)
[04:06] <cntb> I am sure Iam not the only one who cannot toggle
[04:06] <shinobi> angasule: restore to where?
[04:06] <angasule> shinobi: to the kmenu
[04:06] <Jucato> cntb: you can't use plains Alt+Shift in Linux. it's always Alt+Shift+ a character
[04:07] <Jucato> angasule: the kmail icon isn't in the K Menu by default at all. so there's nothing to restore
[04:07] <Jucato> angasule: because kmail is usually run with kontact on Kubuntu.
[04:07] <shinobi> angasule: rightclick in the kmenu
[04:07] <shinobi> angasule: edit menu
[04:07] <shinobi> angasule: put the command as kmail
[04:08] <shinobi> angasule: define custom icon by clicking on the icon
[04:08] <angasule> Jucato: but I don't *want* kontact, it's 3 times as slow, and takes away screen real state
[04:08] <shinobi> angasule:save
[04:08] <angasule> shinobi: ok, I know that way, I was hoping there was another
[04:08] <shinobi> angasule: ???
[04:08] <Jucato> angasule: follow shinobi's instructions then
[04:08] <cntb> are you sure jucato
[04:09] <cntb> one of my kubuntu installs does it
[04:09] <Jucato> cntb: afaik, yes. Alt, Ctrl, Shift, and the Win key are modifier keys normally
[04:09] <shinobi> angasule: does it get any better than that in terms of editing the menu?
[04:09] <cntb> gnome does it
[04:09] <cntb> check xkboptions
[04:09] <angasule> shinobi: maybe there was an automated way, I generally prefer not to manually edit stuff if there's an automatic way
[04:10] <Jucato> well, normally it's not that way, but you can always set it
[04:10] <waylandbill> shinobi: #kde says they are hard-coded. just as Jucato and I thought
[04:10] <shinobi> waylandbill: good job bro
[04:11] <shinobi>  waylandbill: not sure if i'm happy about that though
[04:11] <cntb> windows users are so used to it that I want to have this for transitioners jucato
[04:11] <shinobi> angasule: with you on that.
[04:12] <shinobi> angasule: but using the menu editor is real gui stuff, so i find that more comfortable than command line or stuff
[04:12] <angasule> shinobi: I grew up on the command line, I don't care if the automation is gui or cli :)
[04:13] <angasule> "Alt+Shift changes group" wouldn't be what cntb is looking for? :?
[04:14] <Jucato> probably. not really sure :D
[04:15] <angasule> Settings->Regional & Language->Keyboard Layout->Xkb Options->Alt+Shift changes group
[04:15] <cntb> angasule: tyvm . unfortunately jucato I know where it is and have it checked long ago but it fails . does nothing
[04:15] <cntb> angasule exactly
[04:15] <cntb> angasule - native English ?
[04:16] <psy> How to install xchat? what is the name of the package?
[04:16] <Jucato> !xchat
[04:16] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[04:16] <Jucato> !xchat-gnome
[04:16] <cntb> psy sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:16] <ubotu> xchat-gnome: a new frontend to the popular X-Chat IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.13-0ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 296 kB, installed size 780 kB
[04:16] <angasule> cntb: me? no
[04:16] <Jucato> psy: two choices: xchat or xchat-gnome. don't know the difference. it's GNOME :)
[04:17] <psy> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[04:17] <cntb> psy wait
[04:18] <angasule> cntb: doesn't seem to work for me either, maybe 'group' means something else, or you have to restart X
[04:18] <angasule> cntb: personally, I use skim, what languages do you need?
[04:19] <shinobi> angasule: does skim work with skype now?
[04:19] <cntb> angasule english bulgarian hebrew greek
[04:19] <cntb> and in same document
[04:19] <angasule> shinobi: I have no idea
[04:19] <Jucato> psy: you need to enable the universe repo to install "xchat". though you can install xchat-gnome directlyh
[04:19] <cntb> angasule sounds like some bug because it did work on some of my installations
[04:20] <angasule> cntb: skim is good for that, and you can set up many shortcuts, but you have to edit some config files manually
[04:20] <cntb> but angasule couldnot find what impedes it some times
[04:20] <angasule> cntb: no idea, maybe conflicting shortcuts somewhere else
[04:21] <shinobi> angasule: oh, okay...i tried that few months ago and it ate it. so i ended up with uim and canna (i need east asian languages). but since skim is standard in kubuntu i wanted to be able to switch back
[04:21] <cntb> manually I could do it once but I need it for production of systems this is bad angasule
[04:21] <cntb> Alt Shift is universally known in Windowz
[04:21] <Pensacola> I recently put my /home folder on another partition but now my games are choppy when I play them :s
[04:22] <angasule> cntb: I didn't know about it :) but I'm sure it can be solved, if it has worked somewhere
[04:22] <angasule> cntb: you might try the email lists, though
[04:22] <angasule> cntb: the chat is better for quick solutions, email and forums for the rest, I guess
[04:22] <cntb> yes angasule maybe ask packagers or whom?
[04:23] <cntb> sounds right angasule ty
[04:23] <angasule> cntb: ask in the kubuntu email list, see what they tell you
[04:23] <angasule> np
[04:23] <cntb> where is the kubuntu mail list ?
[04:23] <shinobi> cntb: i think these settings are even cross conflicting in kde languages vs. the actual skim/uim/whatever settings
[04:23] <shinobi> i had to be very careful to set those two in parallel
[04:24] <cntb> shinobi so you are familiar with issue then ?
[04:24] <angasule> cntb: http://www.kubuntu.org/support.php
[04:25] <orangey> hey all!
[04:25] <shinobi> cntb: i had to fight with this for about a month
[04:25] <orangey> My kicker (3.5.6) keeps crashing since I updated yesterday (first time in several weeks):
[04:25] <orangey> kicker: WARNING: Failed to create avahi client
[04:25] <shinobi> cntb: but i'm not sure if it can solve the problem
[04:25] <orangey> that seems to be the biggest problem..
[04:25] <cntb> k angasule got that http://www.kubuntu.org/support.php , so shinobi you know exactly what I mean.
[04:26] <orangey> kicker: WARNING: Failed to create avahi client \ QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap \ QPainter::setPen: Will be reset by begin()
[04:26] <shinobi> cntb: there are i think three areas of configuration
[04:26] <angasule> I think that skim should be working out of the box (or disk ;) ), I don't understand why the heck it isn't
[04:27] <shinobi> angasule: it just doesn't really...and it conflicts with stuff
[04:27] <shinobi> angasule: especially because of the conflicting options in other areas
[04:27] <shinobi> angasule: that don't talk to each other
[04:28] <angasule> well, abandon 'others' and use skim :) since 'others' don't support nearly as much as skim
[04:29] <renato> hi, I am setting up a   server using ubuntu, I have it in my house with a dynamic IP. I have set up a dynamic dns with dyndns (www.dyndns.org) I have also purchased a domain name (.com) but I am not sure how to link the domain name with the dynamic account I have
[04:31] <stdin> that's not a Kubuntu question, so you'll have to ask dyndns about that
[04:32] <renato> it is a dns question , indeed
[04:32] <renato> (not a dyndns), a dns question
[04:32] <stdin> it's nothing you do on your server, unless you are running your own dns server, in which case you wouldn't need dyndns
[04:33] <renato> stdin the point is my server does not have a fixed ip address to the outside world
[04:33] <stdin> renato, yeah, so you have to get dyndns to use the domain you registered
[04:34] <Dr_willis> !kdesu
[04:34] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:35] <stdin> renato: normally (as I understand it) you get a free domain (something.dyndns.com) or whatever, you may need to pay for  a service to use your own domain
[04:35] <waylandbill> renato: make a foward from your domain name to your dyndns name.
[04:35] <renato> I do have a dynamic dns name rdallarmi.podzone.org now I have  a domain I bought (eudealers.com) now I need to set up a forward from my doname into the  rdallarmi.podzone.org
[04:36] <jay_> how do u say "or" in an if statement?
[04:36] <renato> waylandbill, THAT is the part I do not know how to do
[04:36] <stdin> jay_: elif
[04:36] <waylandbill> renato: it depends on where you're domain is managed.
[04:36] <waylandbill> renato: different registrars handle that different ways. You need to contact them.
[04:36] <renato> I have the possibility to specify Cnames for it
[04:39] <jay_> no.. as in multilpe condition
[04:39] <jay_> say if $ans = "y" OR ans = "yes"
[04:40] <jay_> i want to say something like if ans="y" or ans="yes" then do something... something to that effect
[04:40] <Dr_willis> in bash?
[04:40] <jay_> yeah
[04:40] <Dr_willis> time to read some bash guides - i suggest the 'advanced bash scripting guide' it has details/examples of that and MUCH more.
[04:40] <Dr_willis> its not too hard.. i just cant rember off hand. :)
[04:41] <jay_> || doesn't work, | doesn't work
[04:41] <Dr_willis> some 'or' sonstrict in the test
[04:41] <Dr_willis> always seems to boil down to  () and quotes :)
[04:42] <jay_> i've been searching... most tutorials, even the advanced ones cover
[04:42] <jay_> multiple clauses
[04:42] <jay_> elif's and so on
[04:42] <jay_> but just not or's and and's within a clause
[04:42] <stdin> jay_: check 'man test'
[04:43] <buz> wow
[04:43] <buz> kubuntu feisty seems much faster?
[04:43] <jay_> found it
[04:43] <jay_> syntax is
[04:43] <jay_> if [ cond -o cond2 ] 
[04:44] <jay_> thanks
[04:44] <stdin> that's what I was thinking of, but I couldn't remember :P
[04:44] <Dr_willis> i was thinking more of a  if ( ( somthing) || (somthing ))
[04:44] <reinis> hi guys
[04:44] <Dr_willis> but what the heck do i know.. i rarly program. :)
[04:45] <stdin> heh, it's only bash, not exactly programing
[04:45] <Johny_> is there an english or american mother-language?
[04:46] <Dr_willis> latin :)
[04:46] <reinis> hey what r u talkin about in this chat?
[04:46] <Dr_willis> Just gabbering mainly reinis
[04:46] <reinis> o
[04:46] <Johny_> just wanted to make a question...
[04:46] <Dr_willis> sitting in here -- and watcing the chaos in #ubuntu
[04:46] <reinis> lol
[04:47] <reinis> soo
[04:47] <reinis> what r u playing?
[04:47] <reinis> if u r
[04:47] <Dr_willis> rescueing my system... for some odd reason it had a hard lockup while copying a file and the pc went 'beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep'
[04:47] <Dr_willis> thats the game for today.. "Rescue the Data" :)
[04:47] <reinis> lol
[04:48] <Dr_willis> followed by "Backup the Data to DVD "
[04:48] <reinis> iwe herd so,eting like that
[04:48] <reinis> *someting
[04:48] <waylandbill> Dr_willis: isn't it chaos there often?
[04:48] <reinis> whit what program do u use wen beeeeeeep happend?
[04:49] <Dr_willis> waylandbill,  all the time.
[04:49] <stdin> #ubuntu us always chaotic
[04:49] <Dr_willis> reinis,  wasent doingmuch of anything.. dragged a file from one hd to another to copy it.. and it locked up and yelled at me.. :)
[04:49] <Dr_willis> so i hit the reset button. booted to kubuntu to see what happened.
[04:49] <reinis> whell havent heard of that :(
[04:50] <reinis> my dad used terminal and the same prob:(
[04:50] <Dr_willis> so far in #ubuntu today.. installing 'kde' has been blamed for trashing a system..  torrent slowness is ubuntus fault... and.. lets see.....
[04:50] <reinis> 3 times a row
[04:51] <BluesKaj> ntfs-3g broken, Dr_willis?
[04:51] <reinis> reinis not available for a moment :)
[04:52] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  wasent using ntfs at the time. the crash happene while i was using 'sidux'
[04:52] <Dr_willis> rebooted, fsck'ed the drives... now  checking the data again
[04:52] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, sidux?
[04:52] <Dr_willis> i got a torrent thats 99.98% done.. i dont wish to lose.
[04:53] <Dr_willis> sidux - a debian variant ' Sid Tweaked a lot" mainly
[04:53] <Dr_willis> not really worth messing with - but it did have some nice 'install the nividia driver' scripts
[04:53] <Dr_willis> and the hd install from live cd worked decently well.
[04:53] <Dr_willis> but over all. not worth the hassles.
[04:53] <Dr_willis> it is in testing however.. perhaps in a few months
[04:56] <marcin_> join zory
[04:57] <Lam__> what can i use to capture information from my webcam?
[04:59] <stdin> Lam__: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[04:59] <Lam__> stdin: thanks
[04:59] <stdin> yw
[05:00] <cntb> OOWRITER is always terribly slow
[05:05] <Kite_DH> how to install the printer: Lexmark X1270 ??
[05:05] <Kite_DH> !printer
[05:05] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:05] <Anonimek> !help
[05:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:06] <cis_> hello
[05:11] <ForgeAus> hmmm maybe I should try vesa driver! its more likely to work! rofl
[05:13] <ForgeAus> I'm going back to standard KDE session, this broken XGL session sux
[05:17] <mossdsp> j
[05:21] <DarkTeengeek> hey quick question is it possible to send text from th clipboard to a file in a bash scripts
[05:23] <fdoving_> DarkTeengeek: you mean the klipper clipboard?
[05:23] <fdoving_> dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents
[05:23] <DarkTeengeek> yea
[05:23] <fdoving_> works.
[05:24] <DarkTeengeek> ok
[05:24] <Jucato> fdoving_: how do you make it work though? in a script...
[05:24] <fdoving_> Jucato: depends what you want to do with it.
[05:25] <Jucato> ok. I'll leave it at that for now :)
[05:25] <Jucato> almost bed time ehehe
[05:25] <DarkTeengeek> let me explain what iwant to do
[05:26] <Ash-Fox> Perhaps I'm doing this wrong, but I don't see what I did wrong here: 'iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d 192.168.1.2 --dport 994 -j DNAT --to 127.0.0.1:3994' doesn't show up when I do a 'iptables -L' after..
[05:26] <DarkTeengeek> i am making a script that uses festival to read whatever is in clipboard
[05:27] <frojnd> Why, when I run game counter strike 1.6 there isn't any sound of game, just my lunux sound (amrok) ??
[05:27] <fdoving> DarkTeengeek: then you can use 'festival-command $(eval dcop klipper klipper getClipboardContents)'
[05:28] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: what do you want to do?
[05:29] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, pretty much forward port 994 to 3994
[05:30] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: i'd use something like 'iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 994 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3994'
[05:30] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, thanks, i'll give it a try :)
[05:32] <Jucato> fdoving: thanks! $(eval dcop foo) was what I was looking for :)
[05:32] <tdn> I would like to file a bug against the network part of the "System Settings" in Kubuntu/KDE. Where should I do this? I do not know if this is a bug in KDE in general or a bug in Kubuntu only. Please guide me.
[05:32] <soulrider> !es
[05:32] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:32] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, hm.. Shouldn't I see the rules in 'iptables -L' ?
[05:32] <fdoving> Jucato: you can use backticks too `command`.
[05:33] <Jucato> fdoving: I'm more comfortable with $() though :)
[05:33] <Jucato> !bugs > tdn
[05:34] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: iptables -t nat -L
[05:34] <BluesKaj> Jucato, any idea how i can join 2 iso files into one ?
[05:34] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, ah, thanks
[05:34] <fdoving> Jucato: yes, $() is cleaner. `` can be nice on the commandline.
[05:34] <Jucato> BluesKaj: sorry, no clue
[05:35] <cntb> BluesKaj: what is an app that mounts isos
[05:35] <cntb> daemon tools does this in windows
[05:36] <fdoving> !iso | cntb
[05:36] <ubotu> cntb: To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[05:36] <BluesKaj> I'm cheap , don't feel like burning 2 dvd's when the images are small enuff to fit on one
[05:37] <hatta> yeah just mount both of them, then use mkisofs to make a new iso
[05:38] <cntb> so BluesKajmount both merge them and mkisofs ?
[05:38] <cntb> so BluesKaj mount both merge them and mkisofs ?
[05:38] <hatta> mount -o loop 1.iso /mnt/image/1; mount -o loop 2.iso /mnt/image/2; mkisofs -R -J /mnt/image | cdrecord -
[05:39] <cntb> wow hatta that was fast
[05:39] <lenscape_> !uswsusp
[05:39] <ubotu> uswsusp: Userspace suspend/resume to disk. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:40] <cntb> lenscape tell me more about uswsusp
[05:45] <lenscape_> cntb: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/02/2117209
[05:46] <cntb> ty lenscape_
[05:47] <DarkTeengeek> next question how do ichange festivals voice from the script
[05:47] <mips> Anyone know why the internet is so slow in feisty ? IPv6 is disableded & resolve.conf manually configured
[05:48] <DarkTeengeek> from the default british to the amarican
[05:54] <tdn> Which package is the System Settings located in?
[05:54] <frojnd> Why, when I run game counter strike 1.6 there isn't any sound of game, just my lunux sound (amrok) ??
[05:55] <HymnToLife> tdn, kdebase, I guess
[05:55] <BluesKaj> hatta, I just want to merge the iso images , videos btw, not record yet
[05:56] <tdn> HymnToLife, ok. How do I find out? I am filing a bug report on it, so I would rather not file it on the wrong package.
[06:02] <mips> Anyone know why the internet is so slow in feisty ? IPv6 is disableded & resolve.conf manually configured
[06:02] <stdin> mips: feisty questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[06:05] <renzo> damn
[06:05] <renzo> too many people
[06:05] <renzo> hi, anybody?
[06:06] <renzo> I'm a noob, so I don't understand nothing
[06:06] <renzo> I just wanted to reciebe a 'hi' from someone
[06:06] <renzo> genjix2?
[06:06] <waylandbill> renzo: hi
[06:07] <renzo> hi wayland! :)
[06:07] <HymnToLife> !hi | renzo
[06:07] <ubotu> renzo: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:07] <renzo> thanks ubotu!
[06:07] <HymnToLife> !ubotu
[06:07] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:08] <renzo> were's everybody from?
[06:08] <renzo> oh a bot...
[06:08] <waylandbill> planet earth
[06:08] <HymnToLife> same here
[06:08] <renzo> oh me too..
[06:08] <renzo> I mean, wich country!
[06:08] <renzo> I'm from argentina
[06:08] <waylandbill> usa
[06:08] <renzo> lol
[06:08] <waylandbill> I hope everyone here is from planet earth anyway. :-)
[06:08] <renzo> using ubuntu is so difficult, I'm used to win..
[06:08] <renzo> dows
[06:09] <renzo> I hope that too wayland...
[06:09] <renzo> and if not, I hope that they come in PEACE
[06:09] <renzo> if not.. go away please!
[06:09] <waylandbill> It's not difficult. Different is a better word.
[06:09] <renzo> :P
[06:10] <waylandbill> when you're used to it, you'll find that it's like second nature.
[06:10] <renzo> yes
[06:10] <renzo> infinite nature..
[06:11] <renzo> well I don't know if I'm following the thread of our conversation
[06:11] <screechingcat> anyone know how to turn of the "snap to edge" feature in KDE ? i want windows to remember their positions on the screen
[06:11] <renzo> no idea screechingcat
[06:11] <dhq> how do i install IE with wine
[06:11] <renzo> why do won want IE if you have firefox?
[06:12] <renzo> ok, variety is ok
[06:12] <renzo> but I don't know...
[06:12] <screechingcat> both beryl and metacity can do this. wonder why the KDE WM cant.
[06:12] <dhq> R
[06:12] <renzo> you can use konkeror too (ugly name though)
[06:12] <dhq> renzo: well i need to run vbscripts so IE only supports it
[06:12] <dhq> :(
[06:13] <renzo> vb is not so good
[06:13] <renzo> there an open source answer, the one who uses the openoffice
[06:13] <genjix2> renzo: are your parents siblings?
[06:13] <genjix2> you are a street whore with a pizza arse
[06:13] <waylandbill> screechingcat: control center, desktop, window behavior, moving, snap zones may help (and smart placement)
[06:13] <renzo> siblings? Ilol.. noo I don't think so
[06:13] <dhq> renzo: i know but i am doing a degreecourse and i have to learn vbscript wether i like it or not
[06:14] <renzo> ok I know I sounded rude
[06:14] <renzo> sorry
[06:14] <renzo> I didn't meant to
[06:14] <renzo> I'm stupid sometimes
[06:14] <genjix2> not accepted.
[06:14] <renzo> in fact im goinf insane
[06:14] <renzo> not accepted?
[06:14] <genjix2> you are irrelevant to society.
[06:14] <renzo> lol, ok
[06:14] <renzo> and you are society?
[06:14] <dhq> renzo: i know but i am doing a degreecourse and i have to learn vbscript wether i like it or not
[06:14] <genjix2> I finger my keyboard.
[06:14] <renzo> oh dhq, ok
[06:14] <genjix2> ;) ;)
[06:14] <screechingcat> waylandbill: thanks mate. it works
[06:15] <Riddell> genjix2: don't insult people
[06:15] <dhq> renzo: so how to i run vbscript
[06:15] <renzo> you won't bea ble to install the 7th version cause need autenthication i guess
[06:15] <genjix2> my superiority is evident. Don't command me.
[06:15] <renzo> I don't want to comand noone!
[06:15] <renzo> I cannot even comand me
[06:15] <waylandbill> dhq, for an active server page or something?
[06:15] <dhq> renzo: is there any plugin for konqueror or firefox
[06:15] <genjix2> >:D
[06:15] <renzo> and 'superiority' who tough that word to you? your FATHER I guess
[06:16] <screechingcat> dhq: google "IE Linux"
[06:16] <renzo> moms are good
[06:16] <genjix2> yes, my father is a master of many things.
[06:16] <dhq> screechingcat: where can i get that
[06:16] <genjix2> your mom is the best!
[06:16] <renzo> for firefox could be
[06:16] <waylandbill> where can you get google?!?
[06:16] <dhq> renzo:  i tried couldnt find it :(
[06:16] <renzo> yes I was lucky, my mum is great
[06:16] <genjix2> why you want Internet Exploiter?
[06:17] <renzo> my father sucks.. but provides me internet and sort of stupid things
[06:17] <renzo> get google: www.google.com
[06:17] <renzo> or
[06:17] <renzo> www.google.com.ar
[06:17] <renzo> ;)
[06:17] <renzo> dhq, do you need it in urge?
[06:17] <renzo> I cansearch it for you
[06:18] <apokryphos> !coc | genjix2
[06:18] <ubotu> genjix2: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:18] <genjix2> Hi!
[06:18] <dhq> renzo: yes i need so i would be really nice
[06:18] <renzo> ok wait me
[06:18] <renzo> oh the bot can expulse people
[06:18] <renzo> I'm afraid it'll expulse me soon
[06:18] <renzo> :'(
[06:18] <renzo> well wait dhw
[06:18] <genjix2> I aint reading all that text.
[06:19] <waylandbill> what course requires vbscript just out of curiousity and why can't you use their computers to develop that on so they get the malware?
[06:19] <renzo> I'm listening to I'm the walrus
[06:19] <renzo> cool song
[06:20] <renzo> dhq, what version of ie you need?
[06:20] <renzo> I've never heard that you can programm in vbscript for ie
[06:20] <Heavenquake> cpk1:ping?
[06:20] <renzo> aDios DeMolay!
[06:20] <dhq> renzo: i need to run vbscript so any browser will do
[06:21] <renzo> dhq, so you can use firefox?
[06:21] <renzo> thanks for writing in red
[06:22] <dhq> renzo: yes
[06:22] <waylandbill> renzo: when someone says your name, it highlights the text in red in most irc clients.
[06:24] <|lostbyte|> dhq, hi :)
[06:25] <dhq> |lostbyte|: you bro :)
[06:25] <|lostbyte|> dhq, why do you need ie?
[06:25] <angelus> hello all
[06:25] <renzo> renzo: cool
[06:25] <renzo> sorry I was on the phone
[06:26] <dhq> |lostbyte|: you know we are doing vbscript rite and it doesnt work on any browser other than ie i tried searching plugins for firefox
[06:26] <renzo> ok, mm.. hello angelus
[06:26] <renzo> well dhq, I've find a guide
[06:27] <renzo> infelizmente (unhappyly) is hosted on a site named: nerds central
[06:27] <dhq> renzo: ok
[06:27] <angelus> who knows configure a dual screen with ati?
[06:27] <renzo> but oh boy... gooble find it
[06:27] <renzo> google
[06:27] <ForgeAus> angelus radeontool?
[06:27] <ForgeAus> other than that
[06:27] <ForgeAus> !dualhead
[06:27] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[06:27] <mikl_> does anyone know what the hotkeys are for Konsole?
[06:27] <waylandbill> dhq: the script is on the server isn't it? you need to output standardized code if all browsers are going to handle it correctly.
[06:27] <|lostbyte|> dhq, vbscripts are ran by vb client support, is'nt it..
[06:27] <angelus> i use beryl, so radeontool....
[06:28] <dhq> ?????
[06:28] <renzo> dhq, well I'nm not sure if the pages will teach you what you want but .. http://nerds-central.blogspot.com/2007/01/using-internetexporer-as-gui-for.html
[06:28] <renzo> watch it ourseld
[06:28] <renzo> angelus redemptor
[06:28] <angelus> thanks for link
[06:28] <waylandbill> |lostbyte|: he hasn't specified if the vbscript was an ASP or a locally run script.
[06:29] <|lostbyte|> oh.
[06:29] <renzo> this bot ubotu is really great! answers questions..
[06:29] <renzo> Gnik Nus
[06:29] <ForgeAus> that depends on the question
[06:29] <renzo> sun king of the beatles backwards.. and follows something... LOVE!
[06:29] <ForgeAus> its lke I always say answers are easy, its asking the right question thats the hard bit!
[06:29] <atidem> hello folks
[06:30] <t0taln00b> hi
[06:30] <waylandbill> long story short, there is a package called winetools that will easily put in IE
[06:30] <renzo> ohh ForgeAus.. you are so right...
[06:30] <DaSkreech> !botsnack
[06:30] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:31] <ForgeAus> wine hmmm... you can even install the emulation suite for additional wine stuff...
[06:31] <renzo> opened my mind.. the answers .. could be always answered.. making our own question.. is 'thy question' (lol...).. to be or not to be..
[06:31] <dhq> waylandbill: i need a vbscript to run the script i type in my pc only
[06:31] <renzo> *my head will explode here*
[06:31] <waylandbill> making a web script that only works in one browser tends to be frowned on in the real world though.
[06:31] <ForgeAus> (in kde-apps.org theres an emulation addon somewhere)
[06:31] <ForgeAus> its nice
[06:31] <renzo> or you can drink Wine and life is so cool...
[06:32] <renzo> ok I'm talking nonsense,  I think I'll leave
[06:32] <renzo> thanks for being with me guys
[06:32] <ForgeAus> heeh philosophy... hmmm
[06:32] <renzo> noone from argentina? damn
[06:32] <renzo> yeah philosophy
[06:33] <DaSkreech> renzo: Why argentina?
[06:33] <renzo> dskreech, cause I live in argentina
[06:33] <renzo> so if I find someone who lives in argentina, we can go out to drink some wine
[06:34] <renzo> DaSkreech, soory!
[06:34] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:34] <DaSkreech> !wine
[06:34] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:34] <renzo> ForgeAus, why you said phylosophy?
[06:34] <renzo> wine is also a drink!
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Not according to the bot :)
[06:34] <renzo> come on uBOTu!
[06:34] <|lostbyte|> dhq, opera seems to support vbscripts.
[06:34] <renzo> ok so I turn into a bot, and I send you this:
[06:35] <ForgeAus> !opera
[06:35] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[06:35] <renzo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine
[06:35] <dhq> |lostbyte|: i am installing ie
[06:35] <renzo> opera is also a place were people go to see operas.. that music with actore!! lol
[06:35] <ForgeAus> you mean ies4linux or cxoffice ie?
[06:35] <renzo> uBOTu don't know nothing about 'natural life'
[06:36] <ForgeAus> and if its any good at the end they shout "encore!"
[06:36] <dhq> renzo: your acting quite strange ???
[06:36] <ForgeAus> I don't think so
[06:36] <ForgeAus> just unsual
[06:37] <|lostbyte|> :P
[06:37] <renzo> ok and this is an opera http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera
[06:37] <renzo> I tell you I'm crazy.  ilike the beatles
[06:37] <renzo> and ubotu has sent me a PM!
[06:37] <DaSkreech> !itunes
[06:37] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[06:37] <ForgeAus> "twist and shout"
[06:37] <dhq> renzo: i love beatles too
[06:38] <ForgeAus> awww DaSkreech feeling uncomfortable?
[06:38] <renzo> dhq, well I'm listening to them right now. I can play some of his songs on the guitarr
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Nope I like em too just not enough to declare it and not enough to distract from work
[06:38] <renzo> unlukily I have my hand injured the ooother sunday.. (playing FOOTBALL)
[06:39] <renzo> DaSkreech what does the 'leaves... enty,,,' means?
[06:39] <DaSkreech> renzo: insect lovers :)
[06:39] <renzo> i used to have a dictionary... babylon (all the tonges were just one.. )
[06:40] <renzo> ohh, and who's that? well I love insects, but I haven't sayd nothing!
[06:40] <DaSkreech> renzo: Yeah vertical property never works out very well
[06:40] <renzo> Help!
[06:40] <DaSkreech> renzo: You are getting close to O-T
[06:40] <renzo> I didn't get that DaSkreech
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !O-T
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about o-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <renzo> are you talking about religion? :/
[06:41] <DaSkreech> !offtopic
[06:41] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:41] <renzo> ohhh
[06:41] <renzo> so I have to stay in topic
[06:41] <renzo> right
[06:42] <renzo> you know.. directx 10 was just released ... ;) my little brother told me that 'yesterday' (is that I-T --> in topic?)
[06:43] <josh_> who is running an ftpserver?
[06:43] <renzo> !so you have to add these!! to blinf the r*b*tt?
[06:43] <renzo> Thanks daSkreech
[06:43] <|lostbyte|> dhq, This might help ..http://modgb.sourceforge.net/
[06:43] <renzo> I think that migue is!! ;)
[06:43] <renzo> was
[06:43] <josh_> what is the group a user has to be under in order to login thru ftp?
[06:44] <DaSkreech> renzo: You can join #kubuntu-offtopic and talk about whatever you like but in here wine is not a drink :)
[06:44] <DaSkreech> josh_: depends on the server you are joining
[06:44] <elyon225> Could someone please help me get my sound back?  I followed a tutorial on Crosstalk to compile/install Amarok with MTP support and now I have no sound whatsoever...
[06:44] <josh_> i just made a user for my ftp
[06:44] <josh_> but it cant login
[06:44] <josh_> what group does it need to be under
[06:45] <renzo> DaSkreech ok, thanks.. but I was liking being here, so nice people.. but wine is wine, here and everywere.. I mean wine means a lot of things... a virtual win emulator, the blood of ...
[06:46] <renzo> the goodpeople.. strawberryfields forever!
[06:46] <DaSkreech> ftp I would guess but it depends on how you setup your server
[06:46] <renzo> ok I'm leaving
[06:46] <MuJ> Wine Is Not Emulator
[06:46] <DaSkreech> renzo: You can be in both
[06:46] <josh_> there is no ftp group
[06:46] <renzo> 'emulator' or similar.. what eber
[06:46] <renzo> ever
[06:46] <DaSkreech> renzo: You don't have to go
[06:46] <renzo> and ever
[06:46] <josh_> ftp user is in nobody group
[06:47] <MuJ> more like compatibilty layer
[06:47] <renzo> DaSkreech , I have cause I'm sooo tired... 'i haven't slept a wink...'
[06:47] <DaSkreech> renzo: Just type /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:47] <DaSkreech> renzo: well hope you come back soon :)
[06:47] <renzo> I won't come back, as I never use linux
[06:47] <renzo> :P, I 'm a win baby
[06:47] <renzo> a wine baby !!
[06:48] <renzo> oh no!! anonimek!! thanks you are not uBOTu!!
[06:48] <Anonimek> :>
[06:48] <renzo> why you have colours and I don't!! you teach me that someday!
[06:49] <Anonimek> renzo, goggle should teach You hehe :D
[06:49] <Anonimek> google*
[06:49] <renzo> I use google a lot
[06:49] <renzo> I use even more, 'wikipedia'
[06:50] <renzo> bigger than the french encycopedie
[06:50] <renzo> and much bigger that the british one...
[06:50] <cosmin> hi, how can i install the newest version of kde in kubuntu 6.10 ? ( i have kde 3.5 now)
[06:50] <waylandbill> cosmin: you looking to go to 3.5.6
[06:51] <cosmin> yep
[06:51] <renzo> waylandbill, I cannot even think know, and you are thinking by me. sometimes words can hurt!
[06:51] <Tm_T> renzo: Colours?
[06:51] <DaSkreech> cosmin: http://www.kubuntu.org
[06:51] <HymnToLife> cosmin, http://kubuntu.org
[06:51] <renzo> damn I'm leaving... sometime people are not nice. (and I'm not sometimes too.. sorry :()
[06:52] <waylandbill> cosmin: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[06:52] <Tm_T> MuJ: I think renzo needs invite or two.
[06:52] <renzo> http://www.wikipedia.org/
[06:52] <MuJ> preferably two
[06:52] <renzo> what's that Tm_T?
[06:53] <cosmin> canthanks
[06:53] <mikl_> ag
[06:53] <cosmin> *thanks
[06:53] <mikl_> ah, stop teasing him ;)
[06:53] <renzo> Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
[06:53] <renzo> LSD? guys what are you talking about!?
[06:53] <parmenides> My system is stuck in a loop at the log in screen... I can log in console but no x session it says refcount is 2 and should be 1
[06:53] <renzo> I'm scared
[06:54] <Tm_T> renzo: Ok, now you really should follow topic more.
[06:54] <mikl_> hey, ubuntu is here
[06:54] <elyon225> Could someone please help me get my sound back?  I followed a tutorial on Crosstalk to compile/install Amarok with MTP support and now I have no sound whatsoever...
[06:54] <renzo> elyon225 try buying new speakers, mine are working bad too
[06:54] <waylandbill> parmenides: sounds like a driver problem with X. you may need to pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:55] <mikl_> elyon225: well, could you perhaps post a link to the tutorial, so it would be easier to find out what's wrong?
[06:55] <renzo> or we can CREATE or own music.. and we won't nead speakers.. we alreeady have ears and instrument
[06:55] <DaSkreech> elyon225: It should have mtp support
[06:55] <elyon225> mikl_: http://thecrosstalk.blogspot.com/2007/01/amarok-music-manager.html
[06:56] <DaSkreech> What version are you using?
[06:56] <renzo> lol, sometimes I have so much fun!
[06:56] <elyon225> DaSkreech: It didn't recognize my player... and still doesn't after following that tutorial.  I have version 1.4.5
[06:56] <Tm_T> renzo: Then you have good sleep if you go now. ;)
[06:56] <renzo> DaSkreech "hye, thanks for helping me .. to look no so crazy!"
[06:56] <renzo> Tm:T
[06:57] <DaSkreech> elyon225: Which player
[06:57] <renzo> yes, I have the goodnight beatles song.. mixed with octopuses' garden.. both sings ringo... star
[06:57] <renzo> ok so I'm leaving
[06:57] <elyon225> DaSkreech: Amarok.
[06:57] <mikl_> elyon225: what engines show up in Amarok?
 DaSkreech: It didn't recognize my player... and still doesn't after following that tutorial.  I have version 1.4.5
[06:57] <renzo> if someone sometime want to talk
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Which player?
[06:57] <renzo> I'll give my recent brand new email
[06:57] <elyon225> DaSkreech: Oh, sorry... Sansa e260.
[06:57] <elyon225> mikl_: It's using xine
[06:58] <renzo> ... or not..
[06:58] <renzo> better not
[06:59] <Tm_T> ;)
[06:59] <renzo> see you in the dark side of the moon
[06:59] <Tm_T> Bye.
[06:59] <renzo> or see you somewhere over the rainbow
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Gnight
[06:59] <renzo> and if I go to eat an forget this thing turned on?
[06:59] <mikl_> elyon225: you probably don't have the xine headers installed, so your package didn't get built properly
[06:59] <Tm_T> renzo: We really don't care. ;)
[06:59] <renzo> on argentina, is a brand new day
[06:59] <elyon225> mikl_: That wouldn't affect the rest of the system though.  System sounds, games, videos... NO sound is working.
[07:00] <renzo> Tm_T so why the h*ll do you write that if you dont' care! lol!!
[07:00] <renzo> ok ok ok bye bye bye!!
[07:00] <genjix> I'm back!
[07:00] <Tm_T> Bah.
[07:00] <mikl_> elyon225: have you tried removing your custom packages and reinstalling the old ones instead?
[07:00] <genjix> he left...
[07:01] <elyon225> mikl_: To be honest, I'm not entirely sure how to do that.  I know that as I was following the tutorial, it installed a LOT of packages (libraries and KDE stuff) to meet dependencies.
[07:01] <cntb> oh my, oowriter is so buggy and slow.. close to unusable. where to file bugs about it?
[07:01] <mikl_> elyon225: do you still have libxine1 installed - it might have be removed as an extra dependancy
[07:02] <mikl_> elyon225: well, if you have synaptic installed, it's real easy - you can find them under local packages
[07:02] <elyon225> mikl_: Yes, it's installed.
[07:02] <mikl_> otherwise, if you still have the package names for the packages you built with checkinstall, you can just run apt-get remove on those package-names (minus the ".deb")
[07:03] <elyon225> mikl_: So, just remove the packages I installed with checkinstall?
[07:04] <mikl_> elyon225: yes, and then reinstall amarok and amarok-xine
[07:04] <mikl_> then we can see if you hosed your system real badly ;)
[07:04] <elyon225> mikl_: But how would that fix the rest of the system sounds?
[07:04] <elyon225> Alright... I'll give it a shot.
[07:05] <mikl_> elyon225: well, going back to pristine state is usually the right place to start
[07:05] <mikl_> elyon225: if that doesn't work either, you can try other things
[07:06] <elyon225> mikl_: The problem I'm seeing, though, is that removing these custom packages won't remove the tons of packages that were installed for dependencies... or would it?
[07:07] <me_> hi
[07:07] <Dr_willis> depends on how you isntalled them
[07:07] <elyon225> Dr_willis: I used sudo apt-get build-dep amarok
[07:08] <Dr_willis> that just installed all the extra dependencies to compile the program.. nothing major to worry about
[07:08] <Dr_willis> stuff that most all kde apps would need to compile as well
[07:08] <elyon225> Dr_willis: Well, it installed Konqueror, kmail, and a ton of other KDE apps too, I think.
[07:09] <waylandbill> elyon225: I've found that apt-get doesn't remove stuff as good as aptitude, but deborphan should be useful for you.
[07:09] <mikl_> yeah, aptitude is the king
[07:10] <mikl_> after getting used to aptitude, I rarely bother with Synaptic or Adept
[07:10] <elyon225> What is the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[07:10] <DaSkreech> MMMMM Adept gives me reason to jump to feisty ;0
[07:11] <Dr_willis> elyon225,  yep.. it installed a lot of kde depenedncies
[07:11] <waylandbill> aptitude uses an extra database to track 'auto' installed packages.
[07:11] <elyon225> Dr_willis: Is there a way to auto remove them?
[07:11] <mikl_> elyon225: well, it's like the difference between a manual can-opener and an electric one - both do the same...
[07:11] <mikl_> elyon225: aptitude is just more advanced - it's also a package browser
[07:12] <Dr_willis> elyon225,  theres a 'clean kde' url site i saw..  but it told how to get to a clean kde install.. You as asking how to remove KDE in  the Kubuntu channel. :) not many of us in here want to remove kde.
[07:12] <Dr_willis> i alsays install ubuntu, and kubuntu, and the full desktops.. :)
[07:12] <mikl_> if you run sudo aptitude without arguments, you can use it to browse packages, deciding which to install etc.
[07:12] <Dr_willis> aptitude has such potential... and such... interesting screwups at times...
[07:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:12] <elyon225> Dr_willis: Well, I just want to get back to the state of my system BEFORE following this tutorial, but I have no way of knowing all the packages that it installed (there were 125 of them)
[07:12] <DarkWizdom> aptitude has saved my ass quite alot of times ;)
[07:13] <waylandbill> :)
[07:13] <Dr_willis> elyon225,  personally i wouldent worry about the packages it installed.. so you have some kde apps now.. big deal.
[07:13] <elyon225> I loved KDE for a long time, but it just wasn't stable enough on my system... so I'm stuck with gnome for now.
[07:13] <derekS> does anyone else have trouble stopping KDM? I don't want x running, i try to stop kdm (/etc/init.d/kdm stop) and it tells me kdm isn't running
[07:13] <derekS> but if i do a ps aux | grep kdm it is
[07:13] <elyon225> Dr_willis: Well, it IS a big deal when SOMETHING it installed made my sound stop working.
[07:13] <Dr_willis> check the history/buffer and see what all it installed perhaps.
[07:13] <derekS> ps aux | grep kdm
[07:13] <derekS> root      4202  0.0  0.0   2688   712 ?        Ss   Feb14   0:00 /usr/bin/kdm
[07:13] <derekS> root      4480  0.0  1.1  23964 11732 ?        S    Feb14   0:01 /usr/bin/krootimage /etc/kde3/kdm/backgroundrc
[07:13] <Dr_willis> elyon225,  im guessing its somthing else that broke your sound.
[07:14] <mikl_> elyon225: we do not know what broke your sound...
[07:14] <Dr_willis> elyon225,  fire up the package manager and start clicking? you may want to use the 'purge' option also.
[07:14] <elyon225> Dr_willis: I wouldn't think installing KDE stuff would do it either.  But I don't see how compiling/installing mtp and Amarok would do it either.
[07:14] <Dr_willis> i havent looked at the guide to see what all it said to do.. so no idea.. what it did.
[07:15] <mikl_> elyon225: all we're suggesting is you try to go back to the point your system worked...
[07:15] <waylandbill> I agree with Dr_willis. it's probably not putting in some kde apps that broke the sound.
[07:15] <DarkWizdom> kubotu mtp
[07:15] <Dr_willis> could install some minimal window manager and see if sound works in it.. or if sound works from the console.
[07:15] <elyon225> Dr_willis: Basically just a few steps:  1) Install build-dep amarok.  2) Install libmtp.  3) install libgpod 4) install Amarok.  That's it :)
[07:15] <mikl_> Dr_willis: support for PlaysForSure devices etc.
[07:15] <elyon225> mikl_: I would love to... just don't know how :)
[07:15] <Dr_willis> mikl_,  you mean those devices that no one seems to support? :)
[07:16] <elyon225> !about libgpod
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about about libgpod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <elyon225> !info libgpod
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: mtp is a Microsoft transfer Protocol which is a hack of Kodak's PTP
[07:16] <ubotu> Package libgpod does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:16] <Dr_willis> you sure sound is broken.. or is your mixers just muted?
[07:16] <elyon225> Dr_willis: Yeah, I've checked the mixers...
[07:16] <mikl_> elyon225: fire up synaptic and try to see what happens if you removed those packages you built yourself - If you're in luck that might do the trick, otherwise try using deporphan to remove orphaned packages :)
[07:17] <elyon225> mikl_: Already tried that ;)
[07:17] <jbruckman> is there any music scribing software comparable to finale for linux?
[07:19] <cntb> jbruckman: interesting q.
[07:19] <coreymon77> jbruckman: why not use finale?
[07:20] <cntb> I dunno
[07:20] <coreymon77> jbruckman: its for linux right, so cant you use it?
[07:20] <jbruckman> finale is for windows.
[07:20] <cntb> finale is in windows
[07:20] <jbruckman> not to mention its price.
[07:20] <coreymon77> oh
[07:21] <coreymon77> look on apt
[07:21] <jbruckman> k
[07:21] <cntb> PM jbruckman
[07:21] <coreymon77> there may be something there
[07:21] <jbruckman> cntb done.
[07:21] <jbruckman> cntb: done*
[07:22] <waylandbill> elyon225: the reason deborphan doesn't work is because they were not auto installed. Build-dep marks them to be explicitly installed.
[07:22] <DaSkreech> !finale
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about finale - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <elyon225> Okay, well I followed the tutorial again, this time PURGEing everything it had me install... do I need to restart?
[07:23] <waylandbill> elyon225: you could look at /var/log/dpkg.log and see the date/time stamps and determine what was installed I think.
[07:23] <DaSkreech> !info finale
[07:23] <ubotu> Package finale does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:24] <jbruckman> !phillips music writer
[07:24] <jbruckman> !"music writer
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about music writer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <hatta> jbruckman, http://linux-sound.org/notation.html
[07:25] <jbruckman> hatta: thanks
[07:25] <stamen> hi
[07:25] <cntb> wow hatta that was fast
[07:25] <cntb> stamen ? bg ?
[07:25] <stamen> what is the meaning of non-contigeus after file system check
[07:25] <stamen> yes
[07:25] <stamen> bg
[07:26] <stamen> cntb: you mean bulgarian ?
[07:26] <DaSkreech> !itunes
[07:26] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[07:26] <cntb> PM me after consulting here
[07:26] <stamen> !players
[07:26] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[07:26] <Heavenquake> !life
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <cntb> !bg
[07:27] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-bg    . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently
[07:27] <stamen>  :)
[07:27] <mikl_> I wish I knew bulgarian
[07:29] <mikl_> solid_liquid: is there a good reason for this most oxymoronic of nicknames?
[07:29] <DaSkreech> mikl_: First guess would be Hideo Kojima
[07:29] <smoze> how come kubuntu can't use more than one sound source at the same time?
[07:30] <elyon225> Dr_willis, mikl_:  Just thought I'd let you know, after rebooting, my sound still didn't work.  So I opened up the mixer, changed to OSS, and it worked!  Changing back to ALSA and it still works... I don't get it lol
[07:30] <Dr_willis> clarify that...
[07:30] <kub1> is it possible to have KDM list users with icons ala OS X login manager?
[07:30] <Dr_willis> smoze,  you mean play more  then 1 sound making program at 1 time?
[07:30] <DaSkreech> kub1: Technically yes
[07:30] <Dr_willis> kub1,  theres a great many kdm themes you can use.
[07:30] <Dr_willis> elyon225,  sounds like some modules got confused perhaps..
[07:30] <kub1> Oh, ok... I will check it out on KDElook.org I guess - thanks for the heads up
[07:31] <elyon225> eh well, in any case, I have sound now.  Still no mtp support, of course... but oh well :)
[07:31] <mikl_> smoze: I have no such problems
[07:33] <mikl_> elyon225: Sorry that we could not help you more, but sound system is notoriously fickle, so it's hard to tell what might be wrong
[07:33] <smoze> i mean that some programs can't play sound because another program has reserved alsa
[07:33] <mikl_> smoze: any programs in particular or just generally?
[07:34] <smoze> well, amarok and firefox for instance
[07:35] <acido> hello world
[07:35] <acido> this is my first messege in linux  XD
[07:37] <Dr_willis> Moo!
[07:37] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:37] <ele> acido:welcome to linuxworld :D
[07:39] <voicu> !kde4
[07:39] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[07:39] <cavallo_> which program to use for editing videos etc. ?
[07:40] <stdin> cavallo_: try avidemux
[07:41] <HymnToLife> cavallo_, define "editing"
[07:41] <surgy> hello
[07:41] <surgy> how is everyone this after noon?
[07:41] <voicu> procrastinating :D
[07:41] <surgy> :)
[07:41] <cavallo_> HymnToLife: cut some pieces of movie, merge movies etc.
[07:42] <voicu> so... in order to install kde4 what should i do?
[07:42] <voicu> is there a package or do i have to compile it?
[07:42] <DaSkreech> voicu: Break out the compiler and some lowered expectations
[07:42] <HymnToLife> cavallo_, go with avidemux then
[07:42] <stdin> you'll need to compile the cvs version
[07:42] <DaSkreech> voicu: There is a package but ti's quite a few months old
[07:42] <voicu> okay...
[07:43] <surgy> ok i have a problem, i have a computer its a 700mhz 256mb ram,  where both cd roms are giving continual read errors, and i have burned 3 cds so far and all get the errors, so im thinking its the cdrom, now my question is, what are my alternatives? is there a network install?
[07:44] <frojnd> !cedega
[07:44] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:44] <voicu> KDE 3.80.2 means KDE4 beta, right?
[07:44] <fdoving> right.
[07:44] <voicu> ok
[07:44] <DaSkreech> voicu: Honestly at this point in time unless you are developer there is very little to see
[07:44] <fdoving> the new run dialog is nice.
[07:44] <DaSkreech> It means CVs I don't know if it's reached beta yet
[07:45] <DaSkreech> kruner ftw!
[07:45] <surgy> voicu: why not just use the bleeding edge kde repo?
[07:45] <voicu> DaSkreech, well i guess a few apps will work, aren't they?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Oh yeah they will
[07:45] <fdoving> konsole and konqueror works.
[07:45] <DaSkreech>  For the most part it looks just like 3.5.* though
[07:46] <DaSkreech> over the next month things will pick up for apps but the groundwork is still being polished
[07:46] <surgy> im sorry for being rude but my question is kindof pressing, can someone help?
[07:46] <DaSkreech> get a new CDrom?
[07:47] <fdoving> usb-cdrom? :)
[07:47] <fdoving> usb-stick with cd-content.
[07:47] <surgy> daskreech: there is no network instal
[07:47] <fdoving> there is a network install, but it boots from a cd too :)
[07:47] <surgy> my usb stick is only 128mb :(
[07:47] <DaSkreech> There is no official one I know of. I know it can be done
[07:48] <DaSkreech> surgy: As long as you can boot from USB that shoudl be cool
[07:49] <surgy> daskreech: ok ill try
[07:49] <DaSkreech> !
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Mao_Tse_Tung: Do0d You are like famous
[07:51] <samiam010203> anyone in here using kubuntu feisty with beryl ?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> samiam010203: try in #ubuntu+1
[07:52] <mrbrdo> hey
[07:52] <samiam010203> thanks DaSkreech
[07:53] <mrbrdo> i have a problem with SMB4K - i can't mount shares where there is no authentication requred (like mount -smbfs ... -o GUEST), it only works if i have a username&password required
[07:53] <mrbrdo> it works if i mount manually with mount -smbfs... -o guest,...
[07:55] <d03boy> ahoy
[07:55] <d03boy> how do i go through the xorg configuration again
[07:56] <mrbrdo> xorg-configure or something like that
[07:57] <d03boy> thats what i thought too but its not auto completeing
[08:00] <Adydas> isnt it xconfigure?
[08:00] <Adydas> just a bad memory guess
[08:00] <Adydas> or perhaps configurex
[08:00] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[08:00] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:00] <arawn> hi for all
[08:00] <DaSkreech> !X
[08:03] <Theis> how can I install codecs on kubuntu ?
[08:03] <Theis> witout automatix
[08:03] <mrbrdo> i have a problem with SMB4K - i can't mount shares where there is no authentication requred (like mount -smbfs ... -o GUEST), it only works if i have a username&password required
[08:03] <fdoving> !codecs | theis
[08:03] <mrbrdo> Theis: www.ubuntuguide.com
[08:03] <ubotu> theis: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:04] <DaSkreech> !x
[08:04] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:04] <mrbrdo> i have a problem with SMB4K - i can't mount shares where there is no authentication requred (like mount -smbfs ... -o GUEST), it only works if i have a username&password required
[08:05] <kamikazi> hi,i am having trouble with my intel 2100 wifi card on my laptop. i think the radio is off, and the button that turns it on doesnt work. any tips?
[08:07] <djneo> sera
[08:10] <arawn> Hello, do you installed Ubuntu serevr on Poweredge  ?
[08:10] <arawn> 1950
[08:11] <XenThraL> hi, how do I go about resetting all file extensions on konqueror?
[08:11] <XenThraL> to their defaults
[08:13] <alexicon> anyone here know much about NAT?
[08:13] <andremarte> traco, che problema hai?
[08:13] <Art_> Which is better, DVD-R or DVD+R?
[08:14] <uranther> DVD*R
[08:14] <Art_> uranther, Huh?
[08:14] <uranther> just playin
[08:14] <Art_> uranther, Hehe.
[08:15] <alexicon> ive set up my iptables but i still cant ping out from an internal box
[08:16] <alexicon> when i run route, it shows one default gateway for one interface. should both the interfaces on the nat box show the default gw?
[08:17] <antibody> the dmix plugin for alsa exists?
[08:17] <antibody> in cedega I wanted to play eve-online and can share the sound
[08:17] <DaSkreech> Art_:
[08:17] <DaSkreech> The one yuo can find in the stores
[08:18] <usuario> eu sou um novo usurio do Linux, e tenho dvida em como reduzir a janela, haveria algum nessa sala que possa me ajudar?
[08:18] <Art_> DaSkreech, No difference, huh?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> Not enough to talk about
[08:19] <Art_> DaSkreech, Thanks much, sorta what I thought.
[08:19] <usuario> I am a Linux new user, and I would like how can I do to reduce a screen in my notebook, someone could help me?
[08:19] <DaSkreech> !es
[08:19] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:19] <d03boy> how can I get glxgears to print the fps
[08:19] <DaSkreech> usuario: You mean put down the resolution? Or make a window smaler?
[08:20] <usuario> ajuda em portugus, por favor, vc sabe onde?
[08:20] <gugu^> Can somebody Help me to install ymessenger
[08:20] <DaSkreech> !br
[08:20] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:20] <DaSkreech> usuario: Better? :)
[08:20] <DaSkreech> gugu^: You can use kopete
[08:21] <gugu^> DaSkreech: i need it for public use, but kopete is..
[08:21] <DaSkreech> gugu^: Public use?
[08:21] <gugu^> DaSkreech: in internet cafe
[08:22] <frojnd> what's the command to see what cpu do u have, ram, disks.. etc
[08:22] <DaSkreech> Ah. so you want the Windows yahoo messenger?
[08:22] <DaSkreech> lshw
[08:22] <alexicon> anyone know about nat forwarding??
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: /proc
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: better yet lshw
[08:23] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: lshw is nicer ;0
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: ^^ :)
[08:23] <DaSkreech> me ftw!
[08:24] <gugu^> DaSkreech:  yes, on linux, I can`t install it, there says that i do not have some libraries
[08:24] <DaSkreech> gugu^: How are you trying to install it?
[08:24] <frojnd> [20:23:51]  <Admiral_Chicago> frojnd: /proc   I put (/proc) where
[08:25] <frojnd> and I can't find how many ram do I have
[08:25] <DaSkreech> frojnd: /proc is folder. It holds a lot of info about your computer
[08:25] <frojnd> I mean, what kind of ram :)
[08:25] <gugu^> DaSkreech: I have downloading the Yahoo! Messenger for Unix, and tryied to install in GUI
[08:25] <DaSkreech> frojnd: like cat /proc/meminfo
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Ah. what libraries does it say you are missing?
[08:26] <gugu^> DaSkreech: I don`t know how to install in comand line
[08:26] <DaSkreech> gugu^: you are following the instructions on the Yahoo site?
[08:29] <gugu^> DaSkreech: yes, but in comand line is writing No such file or directory
[08:29] <DaSkreech> Ah can you paste what you are typing in?
[08:32] <gugu^> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6729/
[08:34] <DaSkreech> gugu^: can you type ls Desktop/ and tell me if you see the file in the list that gets printed?
[08:34] <jott> i'm looking for something like thedraw/aciddraw... i once found something similar for linux but i forgot it's name (just tried bmdraw/duhdraw/textdraw but they all kindof suck).. any hints (besides dosbox;)?
[08:34] <oli606> hi
[08:35] <oli606> hi friends !
[08:36] <gugu^> DaSkreech: ls: Desktop/: No such file or directory
[08:37] <DaSkreech> gugu^: Whats the name of your main user?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> gugu ?
[08:37] <gugu^> DaSkreech: comp02
[08:42] <DaSkreech> gugu^: ok try ls ~comp02/Desktop
[08:43] <gugu^> DaSkreech:  firefox.desktop   ooo-writer.desktop  ooo-calc.desktop  ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[08:44] <DaSkreech> gugu^: ok try dpkg -i ~comp02/Desktop/ymessenger_1.<press tab><press enter>
[08:45] <sebbar> hi, I got myself an ethernet modem, I know I have to configure it through the web-browser, but how do I know the ip of the modem?
[08:45] <fdoving> it's usually in the manual.
[08:46] <DaSkreech> sebbar: try ifconfig
[08:46] <DaSkreech> Or read the book it came with :)
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> sebbar: it's usually 192.168.0.1
[08:46] <DaSkreech> Normally 10.0.0.138 here
[08:46] <gugu^> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6731/
[08:49] <sebbar> ok tnx
[08:50] <DaSkreech> gugu^: Hmm can You paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[08:50] <DaSkreech> gugu^: Or tell me if you have universe installed?
[08:50] <gugu^> DaSkreech: no i havent
[08:51] <gugu^> DaSkreech: -bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[08:51] <DaSkreech> gugu^: try cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:51] <DaSkreech> and paste that output
[08:52] <DaSkreech> gugu^: or better try alt+F2 -> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:53] <gugu^> DaSkreech:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6734/
[08:54] <DaSkreech> gugu^: Did you do the alt+F2 command ?
[08:54] <gugu^> DaSkreech: yes
[08:55] <DaSkreech> Ok did you get a window open with this file?
[08:55] <gugu^> DaSkreech: yes
[08:55] <DaSkreech> ok press F11 in that window
[08:56] <DaSkreech> You should get a list of numbers on the left hand side
[08:56] <gugu^> DaSkreech: yeap
[08:57] <DaSkreech> ok on line 16 take out the # at the start
[08:57] <DaSkreech> that line should read deb http://md.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[08:57] <DaSkreech> Hmm strange
[08:58] <DaSkreech>  when I svn kopete from head I don't pull the subfolders
[08:58] <DaSkreech> ...
[08:58] <gugu^> DaSkreech: that line maybe is 17?
[08:58] <DaSkreech> Maybe ;)
[08:59] <gugu^> DaSkreech: and then to save this file
[08:59] <DaSkreech> once you are done save
[08:59] <DaSkreech>  yeap
[09:00] <gugu^> DaSkreech: ok
[09:00] <DaSkreech> Hmm ok in the terminal type apt-get install libgdk-pixbuf2 xlibs-data
[09:02] <vas> Hey I am trying to install Xampp for linux, I was told to gain Root access (SH) then to run a Tar command
[09:02] <vas> I am stuck at the SH part, I do not know my password
[09:02] <gugu^> DaSkreech: Package libgdk-pixbuf2 has no installation candidate
[09:02] <DaSkreech> gugu^: Of course it doesn't
[09:02] <DaSkreech> gugu^: type apt-get update
[09:04] <gugu^> DaSkreech: you must see this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6738/
[09:04] <DaSkreech> gugu^: When that output has finished then press up twice and rerun the apt-get install command
[09:05] <vas> when I say my password, I enter my login password and it is not the right one.. I know my password I amnot trying to gain a 'forgotten' password.. it still works to login as well
[09:05] <vas> but not with sh
[09:06] <vas> SU** I am sorry
[09:06] <DaSkreech> gugu^: can you repaste your sources.list file?
[09:06] <DaSkreech> I think something has changed
[09:06] <Manunix> go the trevino blog
[09:07] <gugu^> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6739/
[09:07] <fdoving> vas: use sudo.
[09:07] <fdoving> !rootsudo | vas
[09:07] <ubotu> vas: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:07] <zorglu_> vas: type 'groups' in a shell and dump the result
[09:08] <vas> zorglu: h.o I will do that now
[09:08] <zorglu_> naive question: does ubuntu ask you for a hostname when you are doing a fresh install
[09:09] <zorglu_> vas: "h.o" = ?
[09:09] <vas> ubotu: I have investigated Sudo and I will re-check it in a second
[09:09] <zorglu_> vas: ubotu is only a bot, in this case it was intrumented by fdoving
[09:09] <vas> haha ok
[09:09] <vas> 1 second let me post results for groups
[09:10] <jpoe> does anyone know if there is any easy way to get UFS writable support in *ubuntu?
[09:10] <jpoe> I need to mount a UFS partition as a loopback device and it says it was only compiled with read-only access...
[09:10] <jpoe> I can mount the image as read-only
[09:11] <vas> Groups = vas adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[09:11] <vas> Vas is my username
[09:12] <zorglu_> vas: ok you got 'admin' as group, so you can use sudo
[09:12] <zorglu_> vas: like "sudo tar xvzf mytarfile.tgz" or somethimg
[09:13] <intelikey> sudo echo yes     < testing sudo.
[09:14] <vas> ok let me try that
[09:14] <vas> wait at the end I ws instructed touse /opt
[09:14] <vas> what does that mean
[09:14] <vas> tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.6.tar.gz -C /opt
[09:14] <intelikey> so who here is good with networking, knows a little about cups, and will give me the time of day ?
[09:14] <vas> wait.. sudo must be setuid root
[09:14] <DaSkreech> gugu^: Look at line 16 or 17
[09:15] <DaSkreech> deb http://md.archive.ubunthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6734/u.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[09:15] <DaSkreech> That is what it says now
[09:15] <intelikey> vas mounted nosuid  ?
[09:15] <DaSkreech> take out that URL in the middle
[09:15] <vas> mounted mosuid? means.. forgive me I am semi-newb
[09:16] <vas> ***completly in terms of linux actually ;)
[09:16] <DaSkreech> nosuid
[09:16] <zorglu_> jpoe: http://kerneltrap.org/node/7206 apparently it is possible but 'dangerous'
[09:16] <mollitz> hi
[09:16] <mollitz> whats up?
[09:16] <intelikey> vas   mount | grep nosuid       if it answers you then show us.
[09:16] <DaSkreech> gugu^: Save and rerun the update command
[09:17] <vas> after I executed the mount command it just wen tto the next line
[09:17] <intelikey> vas    ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[09:18] <zorglu_> q. isnt there a file in /proc to get all the options with which the kernel got compiled ? CONFIG_UFS_FS_WRITE=y and stuff like that
[09:18] <vas> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 93844 2006-05-17 04:41 /usr/bin/sudo
[09:19] <intelikey> ok   so why are you getting that error  "sudo must be setuid root"  ??
[09:19] <graft> hey, anyone upgrade to amarok 1.4.5/feisty?
[09:19] <vas> yes
[09:20] <zorglu_>  /proc/config <- this file.. but apparently not present on edgy kernel
[09:20] <graft> did you have issues with mp3 support breaking?
[09:20] <vas> "sudo: must be setuid root"
[09:20] <intelikey> vas you have just showed to us that it is  set user id root.
[09:20] <vas> I am already in root?
[09:20] <mollitz> is it difficult to install a new kernel?
[09:20] <intelikey> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 93844 May 17  2006 /usr/bin/sudo
[09:21] <intelikey> that is correct ^
[09:21] <fdoving> intelikey: maybe check with witch, that he actually uses /usr/bin/sudo for sudo.
[09:21] <zorglu_> intelikey: vas: "df" in pastebin.ca to determine what is /usr/bin/sudo, and the stuff with nosuid in mounting
[09:21] <fdoving> s/witch/which/
[09:21] <intelikey> fdoving heh  trap door  :)
[09:21] <intelikey> vas     which sudo
[09:22] <vas>  "home/vas/bin/sudo"
[09:22] <intelikey> fdoving that's not always accurate though   i have had multiple scripts and which shows one but id be running the other
[09:22] <fdoving> :)
[09:22] <intelikey> lol
[09:22] <vas> pastebin is go
[09:23] <fdoving> one more non-alcoholic beer for me. :)
[09:23] <intelikey> vas did you or someone else set up that back door ?
[09:23] <vas> back door?
[09:23] <vas> aw god thers a back door?
[09:23] <vas> Kubuntu CD in the main just installed it
[09:23] <intelikey> rm /home/vas/bin/sudo
[09:23] <vas> my friend ordered it from Kubuntu I think
[09:23] <Dark-Side> hello all !
[09:24] <vas> http://pastebin.ca/365241
[09:24] <gugu^> DaSkreech: thx, in 15min i`m away
[09:24] <intelikey> vas no install disk ever installed that.
[09:24] <intelikey> vas that's a hack.
[09:24] <Dark-Side> know somebody hox to have a .skz file from a .theme file for superkaramba ?
[09:24] <vas> the RM brought back nothing
[09:24] <DaSkreech> gugu^: Ok
[09:24] <vas> by who?
[09:24] <SilentRhythm> can someone help me figure out a problem with firefox not loading?
[09:24] <mollitz> ?
[09:24] <mollitz> hjl
[09:24] <mollitz> ?
[09:24] <SilentRhythm> i've reinstalled several times, but it still will just start, ask me if i want to restore my session, then do nothing
[09:25] <intelikey> good vas.  close the konsole and reopen it,   all should work.
[09:25] <DaSkreech> SilentRhythm: Mine does that too
[09:25] <Dark-Side> does somebody know how to have a .skz file from a .theme file for superkaramba ?
[09:25] <intelikey> vas and i sujest you change your password imediately.
[09:25] <hellcattrav> does ubuntu(with gnome desktop) have an IRC client? Im still using Konversation..
[09:25] <SilentRhythm> DaSkreech: any luck figuring out why? it happened all of a sudden for me, it's been working fine for a month or so
[09:26] <intelikey> vas  it wouldn't be a bad idea to check for root kits also.
[09:26] <DaSkreech> SilentRhythm: How did you reinstall?
[09:26] <zorglu_> or fresh install :)
[09:26] <vas> Oh i love you guys
[09:26] <hellcattrav> .I want to get the elements of KDE that i installed with Kubuntu(i've since gotten the ubuntu) desktop and just use Gnome
[09:26] <DaSkreech> SilentRhythm: backed up your profile and --purged ?
[09:26] <vas> but whatis with this backdoor you speak of?
[09:27] <DaSkreech> hellcattrav: Is that get rid of?
[09:27] <SilentRhythm> DaSkreech: no, i should try that
[09:27] <Lynoure> intelikey: I missed most of the exchange between you and vas... did you said sudo is not normally installed suid root?
[09:27] <DaSkreech> SilentRhythm: you know where your profile is?
[09:27] <graft> vas - someone put a fake sudo in your ~/bin so that you would enter your password
[09:27] <intelikey> vas did you put that file in  "/home/vas/bin/" ?
[09:27] <SilentRhythm> DaSkreech: where is the profile located?
[09:27] <zorglu_> SilentRhythm: if your firefox config is not important to you, like bookmark and all, you can do "rm -rf ~/.mozilla" but this is quite last resort
[09:27] <vas> which file?
[09:27] <SilentRhythm> right, i wanted to back up my bookmarks first
[09:27] <SilentRhythm> was the only thing i was worried about
[09:27] <vas> who would do that Ive been running kubuntu for 2 days
[09:27] <intelikey> vas home/vas/bin/sudo
[09:28] <DaSkreech> SilentRhythm: ~/.mozilla/ etc
[09:28] <zorglu_> vas: have you followed instruction from people on irc ?
[09:28] <intelikey> vas someone that wanted to own your box.
[09:28] <SilentRhythm> sorry is there an easy way to do the response, or do you just type Screename:
[09:28] <SilentRhythm> okay
[09:28] <vas> nah this is my first tiem on IRC
[09:28] <vas> wait thers no way thats possible
[09:28] <DaSkreech> SilentRhythm: If all you acre about is the bookmarks there is a bookmarks.html that will back it up if you move it somehwhere safe
[09:28] <hellcattrav> .I want to get the elements of KDE that i installed with Kubuntu(i've since gotten the ubuntu) desktop and just use ubuntu/gnome
[09:28] <DaSkreech> !tab
[09:28] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:28] <intelikey> vas if you didn't put it there,   WHO DID ?
[09:28] <DaSkreech> !tab | SilentRhythm
[09:28] <ubotu> SilentRhythm: please see above
[09:28] <DaSkreech> !botsnack | ubotu
[09:28] <ubotu> ubotu: Yum!
[09:29] <vas> intekiley: what are some ways I could get it
[09:29] <DaSkreech> !botsnack | ubotu
[09:29] <vas> intekiley: how could I close it
 SilentRhythm: please see above <- maouaouaouaoua :) too strong
[09:29] <DaSkreech> zorglu_: I know it's hilarious :)
[09:29] <intelikey> vas  rm -fr ~/bin
[09:29] <graft> gah, don't do that
[09:29] <graft> just see what's in it first
[09:29] <graft> also, if he really DID get rooted, why remove the evidence?
[09:29] <graft> first figure out how
[09:30] <zorglu_> it seems like beginner attempts due to 'sudo is not setuid'
[09:30] <aziz> can somebody give me personal troubleshooting? beryl screwed my desktop, i can't start a normal session without it running...
[09:30] <fdoving> rename it first,
[09:30] <SilentRhythm> okay thanks, i'm going to try sudo aptitude --purge remove firefox
[09:30] <fdoving> the bin directory, that is.
[09:30] <DaSkreech> SilentRhythm: All backed up already ?
[09:30] <aziz> please private message me, i can't even see the full chat window
[09:30] <SilentRhythm> just saved bookmarks
[09:30] <zorglu_> vas: you came here and said 'i have been told to do su and then tar'... who told you that ?
[09:30] <hellcattrav> hey My firefox doesn't work
[09:30] <fdoving> ~/bin is in path by default, which is not very nice.
[09:30] <hellcattrav> it installed
[09:30] <CaptainApathy> woops class time
[09:30] <DaSkreech> SilentRhythm: go to it
[09:30] <SilentRhythm> okay
[09:31] <vas> I could not get tar to work as root
[09:31] <j_> Hey guys, how (in kubuntu) do I tell how much HD space I have left?
[09:31] <vas> well ok it started...
[09:31] <graft> j_: df -h
[09:31] <zorglu_> vas: who told you that
[09:31] <intelikey> that would be my first sujestion.     log out    and reboot to single user mode clean the system as best i could  then goto multi-user mode.    but if you've been hacked it's more than likely too late to clean it all up.   and information has probably already went to the cracker.
[09:31] <graft> j_: or filelight, if you want a pretty graphical thingy
[09:31] <j_> @graft Gracias!
[09:31] <vas> this tutorial ws not working
[09:31] <vas> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[09:31] <vas> the SU part
[09:31] <DaSkreech> hellcattrav: I don't understand what you are asking for
[09:31] <zorglu_> j_: type "df" in a konsole
[09:31] <vas> I did not know my password
[09:31] <vas> so I googled around and investigated sudo
[09:31] <graft> vas: you can't su in ubuntu
[09:32] <graft> vas: there's no root password by default
[09:32] <fdoving> j_: it's in all right-click -> properties dialogs, the  bottom. (free space that is).
[09:32] <vas> ya googling toldme to try sudo
[09:32] <SilentRhythm> hm, remembered now: when i go to remove firefox, it wan'ts to remove other dependencies as well: but then aptitude offers a solution to downgrade firefox and firefox-gnome support (i have gnome installed as well.) is this okay?
[09:32] <zorglu_> vas: ok this is not this tutorial which create /home/vas/bin/sudo
[09:32] <vas> zorglu_:?
[09:32] <vas> zorglu_: ?**
[09:32] <hellcattrav> i don't want the kde applications
[09:32] <zorglu_> vas: ok have you already removed this /home/vas/bin/sudo ?
[09:32] <SilentRhythm> just did that and had same results: am going to try rm ~./mozilla
[09:32] <intelikey> su doesn't work on *buntu    not for wsitching to root.    because the root account has no password and is locked.    sudo -i   switches to root.
[09:33] <DaSkreech> hellcattrav: sudo aptitude remove kdelib4c2a
[09:33] <hellcattrav> i guess i just want ubuntu instead of Kubuntu....but how do i get the IRC client for GNOME, there is one right?
[09:33] <hellcattrav> ok
[09:33] <hellcattrav> thanks
[09:33] <zorglu_> vas: if you do "ls-l ~/bin/sudo" what is the result
[09:33] <DaSkreech> hellcattrav: xchat
[09:33] <hellcattrav> yeah
[09:33] <hellcattrav> thats it
[09:33] <hellcattrav> couldn't remember the title...can i get that?
[09:33] <intelikey> zorglu_ i already told him to rm it.   and you need a space befor the dash.
[09:34] <vas> no such file or directory
[09:34] <DaSkreech> hellcattrav: If you installed ubuntu you already have it
[09:34] <zorglu_> well we wont know then :)
[09:34] <hellcattrav> oh
[09:34] <hellcattrav> cos i don't see it under internet....would it be somewhere else?
[09:34] <zorglu_> vas: so either you assume you created it by mistake, or you assumed some attacker tried to penetrate your computer
[09:35] <kitto>    CHK the new version of C99 SHELL with SAFE MODE bypass WORK test there +++>>>   !!!PRIVATE!!!   http://www.dachkomplett.at/images/start/c99.c?   !!!PRIVATE!!! <<<+++          MOROCCO RULEZ
[09:35] <vas> definetly by mistake
[09:35] <zorglu_> vas: if you assume you have been attacked, you have to reinstall from scratch
[09:35] <frank82--> hi to all
[09:35] <zorglu_> vas: then you are fine :)
[09:35] <koyo001> can anyone tell me how to reset adept
[09:35] <vas> zorglu_: ok yes b/c I am pretty sureit was by mistake
[09:35] <frank82--> i'm a newbie
[09:35] <koyo001> cause it crashed on me
[09:35] <vas> zorglu_: I live in a hick-town in the middle of nowhere
[09:35] <zorglu_> !adept crash fix | koyo001
[09:35] <ubotu> koyo001: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:36] <intelikey> vas    and how/why did you copy /usr/bin/sudo   to ~/bin/    ?
[09:36] <zorglu_> vas: well it is a box on the internet. but i believe it is was more likely you did it by mistake
[09:36] <koyo001> thanj you ubotu
[09:36] <vas> intellikey: probly sketchy internet tutorial I shouldnt have followed
[09:36] <zorglu_> koyo001: ubotu is a bot, in this case intrumented by me
[09:37] <SolidSource> !adeptnotifier
[09:37] <vas> zorglu_: How could someone retreive my password if someone did do it on purpose
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptnotifier - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <SolidSource> !adept-notifier
[09:37] <ubotu> adept-notifier: system tray notifier of available system updates. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 698 kB, installed size 1968 kB
[09:37] <koyo001> =zor ok
[09:37] <koyo001> sorry new to this
[09:37] <bill> what is the command to update database for searches (whereis & locate)?
[09:37] <zorglu_> vas: long subject :)
[09:37] <zorglu_> koyo001: no problem :)
[09:38] <koyo001> well the crash is brought upon loading of java
[09:38] <SilentRhythm> getting errors trying to reinstall firefox?
[09:38] <koyo001> its the second time it crashes while loading the upgrade
[09:38] <zorglu_> bill: 'locate -u' for locate
[09:38] <zorglu_> bill:  i dunno what 'whereis' is
[09:38] <SilentRhythm> eplaced by files in installed package libnss3 ...
[09:38] <SilentRhythm> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:38] <SilentRhythm>  unable to create `./usr/lib/firefox/firefox': No such file or directory
[09:38] <SilentRhythm> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[09:38] <SilentRhythm> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:38] <SilentRhythm>  /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_2.0.0.1+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10_i386.deb
[09:38] <SilentRhythm> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste | SilentRhythm
[09:39] <ubotu> SilentRhythm: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:39] <zorglu_> koyo001: you can try directly via apt-get or aptitude if adept is giving you trouble
[09:39] <Lynoure> vas: there are many ways they could have gotten your password, read from the middle of http://www.phptr.com/articles/article.asp?p=170772&seqNum=3&rl=1 for a simple example of the idea
[09:39] <SilentRhythm> okay
[09:39] <vas> ok
[09:39] <vas> Thanks for your help guys it is extremely appreciated
[09:40] <zorglu_> no problem
[09:40] <vas> oh and just out of curiosity, my internet is extremely slow since I started on kubuntu
[09:40] <zorglu_> !ipv6 | vas
[09:40] <ubotu> vas: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:40] <zorglu_> vas: try this
[09:41] <vas> h.o I am reading it up  now
[09:41] <zorglu_> vas: h.o = ?
[09:41] <vas> zorglu_: hold up... lol
[09:42] <zorglu_> ok :)
[09:42] <vas> zorglu_: AIM and IRC really have gone seperate ways
[09:43] <Lynoure> vas: could you tell me result of   echo $PATH ? (If none of the others have asked for it yet)
[09:43] <Lynoure> vas: Kubuntu does not normally have ~/bin in the path, and if you still have it there, you might want to take it out.
[09:44] <tjz_> i have no sound coming out of my computer any suggestions?
[09:45] <vas> Lynoure: /home/vas/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/game
[09:45] <intelikey> Lynoure ah i think if you look in /etc/profile /etc/bash* you will see that if the dir exists it is automatically added to the path
[09:45] <vlt|home> Hello. How can I get rid of this k3b progess bar on my screen?
[09:45] <Lynoure> intelikey: hmp. oh. I do not like that thought.
[09:46] <intelikey> Lynoure yeah  but i think it is there.  maybe in ~/. something   i have seen it in the default setup
[09:47] <Lynoure> intelikey: yep, there it is. Thanks.
[09:47] <intelikey> i don't have any of the default configs to even look at now.
[09:47] <CaptainApathy> what were the command to restore access to /var/lib/dpkg/lock?
[09:47] <intelikey> Lynoure in which ?
[09:47] <CaptainApathy> !dpkg
[09:47] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:48] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | CaptainApathy
[09:48] <ubotu> CaptainApathy: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:48] <CaptainApathy> ah
[09:48] <CaptainApathy> thanks
[09:49] <intelikey> !welcome | CaptainApathy
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <intelikey> !thanks | CaptainApathy
[09:49] <underdog5004> where is the sound config file for firefox?
[09:49] <ubotu> CaptainApathy: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:49] <intelikey> there.
[09:49] <mattik> Hello, how can I get fglrx-driver for Feisty. I have tried follow instructions of cchtml.com but without help. I cannot get X running with fglrx.
[09:49] <CaptainApathy> intelikey: I'm also known as NightBird
[09:49] <CaptainApathy> :P
[09:49] <Lynoure> intelikey: .bash_profile
[09:49] <vas> so the final diagnosis is...? :-p
[09:50] <intelikey> CaptainApathy i saw you calling the bot.  knew you knew about it, just playing.
[09:50] <CaptainApathy> ah
[09:50] <intelikey> Lynoure ok.  see i remembered it being in one of them.   just didn't remember which.
[09:50] <underdog5004> where is the sound config file for firefox?
[09:50] <Lynoure> vas: that if you run code or scripts from unknown sources on account having sudo, you can easily get in trouble. Be careful about it in the future.
[09:51] <underdog5004> I think it's firefox.rc...but I can't remember where it is.
[09:51] <intelikey> underdog5004 if no one in here knows.  ask in   #ubuntu   ff is default in ubuntu  not in kubuntu.
[09:51] <Lynoure> intelikey: I'm not a big fan of sudo myself, given that I sometimes want to run BOC such as skype...
[09:51] <vas> yeah I am going to save the sudo related questions to my trusted #kubunto mates
[09:51] <underdog5004> k, thanks.
[09:53] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Maybe we would like to have that appended instead of preprended
[09:53] <intelikey> Lynoure yeah.   sudo can be setup to a very powerful and secure tool.  but imo the *buntu default setup just makes you   "root jr."   and that without warning really.
[09:53] <intelikey> DaSkreech apsolutely.
[09:54] <intelikey> absotivly ?
[09:54] <intelikey> i mean posolutly
[09:54] <BluesKaj> or postpended
[09:54] <fidel> so what's up  guys
[09:54] <hellcattrav> hey how can i get xchat?
[09:55] <fidel> simply
[09:55] <SolidSource> anyone else getting: Failed to fetch "http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/edgy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  deb/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)" when checking for updates in terminal?
[09:55] <fidel> sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:55] <DaSkreech> hellcattrav: Alt+f2 -> xchat
[09:55] <zorglu_> !irc | hellcattrav
[09:55] <ubotu> hellcattrav: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:55] <zorglu_> hellcattrav has been on this xchat stuff for like 45 min now :)
[09:56] <BluesKaj> Konversation rulez!
[09:56] <intelikey> DaSkreech in fact if an admin wants something added to take priority  wouldn't  /usr/local/bin   be better than  ~/bin   at least you have to have access to put things there.
[09:56] <DaSkreech> zorglu_: I know :)
[09:56] <hellcattrav> yeah
[09:56] <Lynoure> intelikey: out of curiousity, any good guides to setting it up securely? I want to see if that would allow safe running of binary only stuff under an account that has sudo
[09:56] <hellcattrav> ive been instructing gramps on how to open paint
[09:56] <DaSkreech> intelikey: In short anything ~ in the $PATH should be at the end unless the user explicitly and painfully did it themselves
[09:56] <intelikey> and you could still have wrapers for the common commands
[09:57] <hellcattrav> so my attentions been in a tug of war
[09:57] <BluesKaj> hey be careful there ...I'm a gramp
[09:57] <DaSkreech> hellcattrav: Which paint?
[09:57] <intelikey> DaSkreech concure
[09:57] <hellcattrav> microsoft
[09:57] <DaSkreech> Ah WinKey+R -> paint
[09:58] <hellcattrav> hes using windows and looking at a picture that i made huge(a pic of my dad) in image view(im using ubuntu linux
[09:59] <intelikey> so who wants to help me find out why cups wont work ?
[09:59] <hellcattrav> BluesKaj your helpful, my poppa I'm still showing him how to log on to his email, and he gets annoyed(right now actualy when anythings not instantaious)
[10:00] <BluesKaj> yeah, that can be a prob , hellcattrav ..understanding linux is difficult for windows users
[10:00] <OIS> hi, do you know of a channel on here more suited for asking a wifi question?
[10:00] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[10:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:01] <intelikey> ois sometimes  ##linux    sometimes   #debian   but don't expect everyone in there to be nice to you.
[10:01] <Haplo_> hey all, i have a partition (reiserfs, from a previous gentoo install) that when i mount it, i can read, create new files, but I cannot delete/modify any files ... any ideas why this is?
[10:01] <intelikey> #gentoo   at times.
[10:01] <BluesKaj> <--- used to be a windows user ...still a relative noob to linux
[10:01] <hellcattrav> im the linux user, hes just trying to work windows
[10:02] <OIS> thanks
[10:02] <hellcattrav> im a noob
[10:02] <intelikey> Haplo_  man lsattr
[10:03] <intelikey> Haplo_ i'm not saying that is the reason  but it could be.
[10:03] <intelikey> if a dir is +a  you can only add.
[10:03] <Haplo_> intelikey: i cannot even do that
[10:04] <Haplo_> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on ./TemplateManager.html ... lots of errors like that
[10:04] <zorglu_> Haplo_: bad file system :)
[10:05] <intelikey> Haplo_ in a konsole     man lsattr
[10:05] <gugu^> DaSkreech: I`mback
[10:05] <intelikey> Haplo_ in a konsole     man chattr
[10:05] <DaSkreech> gugu^: Did you make the correction?
[10:06] <intelikey> ok i'm gone for a bit.   or byte.    or bite.   or something to eat.
[10:06] <Haplo_> let me see ... thanks for the tips intelikey
[10:06] <gugu^> DaSkreech: I must del that URL
[10:06] <gugu^> ?
[10:06] <CaptainApathy> I just installed postgresql... how do I start it up?
[10:07] <DaSkreech> gugu^: Yes you pasted a pastebin in the middle of the line
[10:07] <DaSkreech>  take that extra URL out
[10:08] <DaSkreech> the line should read deb http://md.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[10:08] <gugu^> DaSkreech: ok
[10:12] <DaSkreech> gugu^: done?
[10:12] <SilentRhythm> i'm having problems getting video to display correctly with s-video out and an ATI card
[10:12] <SilentRhythm> dual monitor seems to work, but the video won't display at the correct resoultion for the tv
[10:12] <SilentRhythm> it shows half of it, and when i move hte mouse the video moves
[10:12] <SilentRhythm> its strange
[10:12] <gugu^> DaSkreech: not yet, is updating
[10:13] <SilentRhythm> if i have the mouse on that monitor, the video moves off the screen
[10:13] <DaSkreech> gugu^: OK :-)
[10:13] <SilentRhythm> has anyone seen something like this or know what could be happening?
[10:14] <posingaspopular> SilentRhythm: the consenus I have from everyone I know is that ATI sucks for linux.
[10:14] <Nergar> hello
[10:14] <zorglu_> SilentRhythm: i would look close to 'hardware accelerated cursor'
[10:14] <Nergar> can anyone help me configure FF to use kaffeine plugin?
[10:15] <SilentRhythm> zorglu_: where would i find that?
[10:15] <zorglu_> SilentRhythm: gogling and asking. sorry no time to help on this one
[10:15] <SilentRhythm> okay
[10:15] <BluesKaj> Nergar, http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[10:16] <Nergar> mplayer?
[10:16] <BluesKaj> yup
[10:16] <gugu^> DaSkreech: Done
[10:17] <DaSkreech> gugu^: You reran the apt-get install command?
[10:17] <gugu^> DaSkreech: not yet
[10:17] <Nergar> BluesKaj, i have unbuntu so FF is already configured to use Totem, i need to change that
[10:18] <DaSkreech> gugu^: press the Up key on the terminal until you see the apt-get install libgpd-pixbuf etc etc
[10:18] <gugu^> DaSkreech: ok, now is istalling
[10:19] <DaSkreech> gugu^: ^_^ :^
[10:20] <SilentRhythm> ah! i just figured it out
[10:20] <SilentRhythm> i had to select the openGL drivers in kaffine
[10:20] <SilentRhythm> instead of auto
[10:20] <OIS> is driverloader any usefull ?
[10:21] <SilentRhythm> in case anyone else if having problems
[10:21] <BluesKaj> dunno Nergar , why don't you check with the #ubuntu channel ...mplayer works in ubuntu as well , but defaulting to mplayer instead of totem is beyond my scope
[10:22] <Nergar> thanx BluesKaj but i can't get a response on #ubuntu :P
[10:22] <frojnd> !games
[10:22] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[10:23] <DaSkreech> gugu^: you can use the press up thing (it's called history for future) to get back to the command to install ymessenger and rerun that as well
[10:24] <gugu^> DaSkreech: ok, thx
[10:25] <DaSkreech> gugu^: Yeap :)
[10:26] <gugu^> DaSkreech: its not working to install ymessenger
[10:26] <gugu^> :(((
[10:26] <DaSkreech> gugu^: It's giving an error?
[10:26] <gugu^> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6752/
[10:27] <DaSkreech> !xlibs
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <DaSkreech> !find xlibs
[10:27] <ubotu> Found: xlibs-dev, xlibs-static-dev, xlibs-data
[10:28] <DaSkreech> !xlibs-data
[10:28] <ubotu> xlibs-data: transitional package for X11 client data. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[10:28] <j3j5> muy buenas!
[10:28] <DaSkreech> !es
[10:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:28] <sam_> !ati
[10:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:29] <DaSkreech> !libssl
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <DaSkreech> !find libssl
[10:29] <ubotu> Found: libssl-dev, libssl0.9.8, libssl0.9.8-dbg, libssl-ocaml, libssl-ocaml-dev (and 2 others)
[10:29] <j3j5> alguien por aqu tiene el amarok funcionando con mysql???
[10:29] <DaSkreech> !es | j3j5
[10:29] <ubotu> j3j5: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:29] <j3j5> ok, tienes razn, no me haba dado cuenta!
[10:29] <j3j5> gracias DaSkreech
[10:30] <j3j5> pensaba que estaba en kubuntu-es :P
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> talking in the wrong channel...it happens.
[10:31] <posingaspopular> Admiral_Chicago: talking at all.
[10:31] <posingaspopular> go to school!
[10:32] <DaSkreech> gugu^: You can apt-get install libssl0.9.8
[10:32] <gugu^> DaSkreech: ok
[10:33] <gugu^> DaSkreech: libssl0.9.8 is already the newest version.
[10:33] <DaSkreech> A
[10:33] <DaSkreech> h
[10:34] <DaSkreech> gugu^: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7147.html
[10:35] <tasha> I am running (newly installed) Kubuntu on a laptop and am trying to read image files off of a floppy disk.
[10:36] <tasha> I insert the floppy, go to computer/media and open the floppy
[10:36] <tasha> it shows the floppy folder with nothing in it.
[10:39] <tasha> have installed: fdutils, floppybackup, floppyd, kfloppy and kmformat
[10:39] <tasha> & have read that others have  floppy problems when running Kubuntu.
[10:40] <LiteHedd1d> i want to upgrade kubuntu. what's involved in that?
[10:40] <tasha> I have also tried mounting the floppy in terminal & it works, but still shows nothing on the disk.
[10:41] <tasha> I can see the images on the floppy on other computers.
[10:42] <tasha> Any ideas to solve this problem ...
[10:43] <DaSkreech> !upgrade | LiteHedd1d
[10:43] <ubotu> LiteHedd1d: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:43] <Schuenemann> hi, how can I set Ark to use unrar-free instead of unrar?
[10:43] <LiteHedd1d> thanks skreech
[10:43] <LiteHedd1d> i'll read it
[10:44] <comp02_> DaSkreech: thank you, i`ll try
[10:44] <DaSkreech> comp02_: Ok
[10:44] <DaSkreech> I think that page can help
[10:44] <LiteHedd1d> I think I'm running dapper. how can I tell?
[10:44] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: Why do you have both?
[10:45] <Schuenemann> jhutchins, only unrar-free
[10:45] <Sanne> LiteHedd1d: type: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[10:45] <Sanne> LiteHedd1d: sorry
[10:45] <jhutchins> Schuenemann: Oh.  Just create a symlink from unrar to unrar-free (if it's not there already).
[10:45] <Sanne> LiteHedd1d: type: cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:46] <surgy> whats the command to reconfigure x?
[10:46] <Schuenemann> jhutchins, so that setting can't be changed?
[10:46] <surgy> my fucking ati driver fucked my xorge i think says there are no screens to display
[10:46] <surgy> sorry for the language ati just makes me mad
[10:47] <surgy> !xorg
[10:47] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:47] <surgy> !fixxorg
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixxorg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <Sanne> surgy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> surgy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:48] <tasha> does anybody have experience trouble shooting floppy disk reading in kubuntu
[10:50] <Schuenemann> hi, how can I set Ark to use unrar-free instead of unrar?
[10:50] <cntb> !fixres > surgy
[11:00] <gugu^> DaSkreech: It`s working tnx very much
[11:00] <jhutchins> tasha: Chances are the disk or drive is bad, but what problem are you having?
[11:04] <surgy> !fix adept
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <surgy> !fixadept
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <surgy> !adept
[11:04] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:04] <surgy> !adeptfix
[11:04] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:08] <sam_> !ntfs
[11:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:09] <Adydas> !fuse
[11:09] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:09] <Adydas> Awsum, unsafe is my middle name
[11:09] <Adydas> !tvclone
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvclone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <cyphre> !ntfs-3g
[11:10] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:10] <Adydas> !screen
[11:10] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[11:30] <Morrissey> Hi ... My artwork didnt work before, but it works now :) So Covers successfully gets transfered from amarok to my ipod ... Is there a way I can update all of the covers on the ipod? So I dont have to delete them, and put them over again? Thanks in advane
[11:36] <Rob-West> can someone help me install Kubuntu on a 1 gig pendrive
[11:37] <Rob-West> or is there a better distro to try
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Rob-West, why not try a live cd ...a bit simpler to setup
[11:53] <graft> anyone else have building broken as a result of 4.1?
[11:53] <graft> g++-4.1, that is
[11:56] <sam_> !fixadept
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixadept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <sam_> !adeptfix
[11:56] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:57] <Wolfe> anyone helpful here?
[11:57] <Wolfe> anyone here at all?
[11:57] <Wolfe> ._.
[11:58] <hellcattrav> hi all
[11:58] <graft> !ask
[11:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:58] <Wolfe> lol, people are here...
[11:58] <Wolfe> i keep getting an error on startup with the cd...
[11:58] <hellcattrav> whats the command to remove the kde aplications? I had Kubuntu, but i like GNOME better, so i have Ubuntu and want to get rid of GNOME
[11:58] <Wolfe> it says unkown interuption or fault in EIP
[11:58] <Wolfe> then a bunch of numbers followed by letters xD
[11:59] <graft> Wolfe: um, so it doesn't boot at all?
[11:59] <Wolfe> well, it gets to the start up screen, where it says "start or install"
[11:59] <Wolfe> but when i select any of the choices, it just says that error
[12:00] <graft> hm... so it can read from the CD, at least
[12:00] <Wolfe> heres the odd part
[12:00] <Wolfe> if i use my other computer... it works just fine
[12:00] <Wolfe> o.O
[12:01] <Wolfe> the only difference that i can think of between them though.. is ones a dell, and the other an hp
[12:01] <graft> yeah, it's a problem with your chipset, apparently
[12:01] <Wolfe> so... its not easy to fix?
[12:01] <graft> you're trying to install the server kernel, i presume?
[12:02] <Wolfe> no, just run the image for kubuntu
[12:02] <graft> kubuntu server, or kubuntu generic?
[12:02] <Wolfe> generic, i believe
[12:02] <Wolfe> lol
[12:02] <BluesKaj> yeah , i have a compaq amd 64 and arklinux did the same as your description , Wolfe ... never did figure out why tho :(
[12:02] <graft> well, make sure
[12:03] <graft> apparently this is an issue with your chipset, because it doesn't support an option compiled into the server kernel
[12:03] <Wolfe> well, whats the diff between them? (and at least im not the only one with the problem)
[12:03] <graft> odds are you don't want the server kernel
[12:03] <Wolfe> prolly not
[12:03] <Wolfe> lol
[12:03] <graft> so, go figure out what image you downloaded
[12:03] <ensacom> hallo
[12:04] <Wolfe> kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[12:04] <Wolfe> =)
[12:04] <BluesKaj> that looks normal
[12:04] <Wolfe> yea
[12:04] <Wolfe> it works on vmplayer
[12:04] <Wolfe> but not on the cd
[12:04] <Wolfe> and theres nothing wrong with the cd cause the cd just ran on the dell
[12:05] <graft> hrmm
[12:05] <BluesKaj> how much memory on the HP >
[12:05] <ubuntu_> 1 gig ram
[12:05] <BluesKaj> weird , sounds almost like my pc
[12:06] <Dell> yea, its not cool...
[12:06] <Dell> this is so much better than windows too ='(
[12:06] <underdog5004> yeah...kde is much better than gnome...no question...
[12:06] <Dell> lol
[12:07] <Dell> you think its the boot option?
[12:07] <graft> what boot flags?
[12:07] <Dell> what do you mean?
[12:08] <Adydas> Can you run a X11 per user?
[12:08] <Adydas> like could i have it that the username zxy loads at 1280x1024 and user yui loads at 800x600 ?
[12:08] <jager> does locate/updatedb not index the entire computer?
[12:09] <graft> Wolfe: are you trying to install? if so, the alternate cd image might do for you
[12:09] <Wolfe> nope, just run
[12:09] <graft> jager: except what's in PRUNEFS_PATH or some such
[12:09] <jager> hrm.
[12:09] <graft> /etc/updatedb.conf
[12:10] <graft> and, obviously, it runs once a day, so it won't have new stuff unless you updatedb by hand
[12:10] <jager> aha so /media is not indexed by default - that is exactly what i expected to see
[12:10] <jager> thank you
[12:10] <graft> also all NFS mounts
[12:10] <graft> seems sensible to me
[12:10] <Wolfe> so? any idea
[12:11] <Wolfe> the only reason i mentioned boot options, is cause i noticed there was a certain one for dell machines
[12:11] <jager> it's fine, now that i know the sekrit :)
[12:11] <graft> Wolfe: ummm... well, you can read this launchpad bug: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/71594
[12:11] <graft> seems like it was just a bad decision to build the kernel that way
[12:12] <graft> and i guess the default kubuntu kernel is built that way..
[12:12] <graft> try the alternate cd image
[12:12] <Wolfe> which one?
[12:12] <graft> there's only one, no?
[12:12] <Wolfe> oh, you mean on the page? xD