=== Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] hi Hobbsee [12:17] GPLd programs have the GPL PREAMBLE in copyright, correct? The bit about the purpose of the license? [12:17] yeah [12:17] heya LaserJock :) [12:17] and a link to the full license [12:17] right [12:21] darn it, stupid bug, why won't you show up?!? :/ [12:22] I go and get help on how to diagnose the stupid thing and it won't show up [12:23] a heisenbug :) [12:23] yes [12:23] OK, enblend officially sucks [12:23] some mysterious key mapping in KDE that makes my computer shut down === caravena__ [n=caravena@128-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CarlF1 [n=juser@adsl-75-0-148-152.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:27] you have checked the global shortcuts, presumably? [12:28] umm, no [12:29] LaserJock: system settings, keyboard, global shortcuts [12:29] Goddamn I'm an idiot. gudjon, you still here? [12:29] just see if there's anything there under shutting down, etc [12:29] particularly "halt without confirmation" or "reboot without confirmation" [12:31] All right, what on earth are the emacs .ex files for? [12:32] tonyyarusso: .ex like example? [12:32] geser: Yeah. Like debian/emacsen-install.ex [12:32] <_ion> I usually just rm debian/{*.{ex,EX},README,dirs} unless there's something i need. [12:33] Hobbsee: hmm, I do see them [12:33] LaserJock: do they hvea a shortcut listed next to them? [12:34] Hobbsee: yeah [12:34] what is it? [12:34] but I'm not sure I would have hit them, they are kinda long [12:34] if you'd mashed the keyboard, you may have. *shrug8 [12:34] <_ion> README.Debian, that is. [12:34] Alt+Ctrl+Shift+PgUP is the one that'd do it [12:35] mmm....possible [12:35] yeah, that one is [12:35] i'd take it out, anyway :P [12:35] just to be sure [12:35] I often hit Shift+PgUp [12:35] eeep, I gotta write a manpage? (How frowned upon is it to just put a link to the docs web site? It's not really a switched kind of thing, afaik) [12:35] yeah [12:36] tonyyarusso: it's fairly easy to make a simple one [12:36] Only the first man page is hard. Once you've done one it's no harder than doing a readme. [12:36] LaserJock: Right..I hope :) [12:36] tonyyarusso: the general rule is to have a man page for every binary you put into /usr/{,s}bin/ [12:43] argh === caravena_ [n=caravena@199-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] What's wrong with LJHOME=/home/anthony/Desktop/lj_example [12:43] export $LJHOME [12:43] -bash: export: `/home/anthony/Desktop/lj_example': not a valid identifier === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] LaserJock: erm, what if I honestly don't know what it puts in /usr/bin? :P [12:49] (something hates me today...) [12:51] tonyyarusso: export FOO=blah, not export $FOO=blah [12:52] you could, of course, just pass it directly, too... [12:53] crimsun: Ah, there we go. (I misread something..) === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] any advice for debian Bug#411580 ? it also affects ubuntu... [01:00] and debian bug 409356 too [01:00] Debian bug 409356 in cups-pdf "cups-pdf: allows unprivileged user to read parts of any file" [Critical,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/409356 [01:00] debian bug 411580 [01:00] Debian bug 411580 in cups-pdf "cups-pdf: 2.4.2-2 broke functionality" [Grave,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/411580 [01:00] interesting bugs [01:01] it seems a tradeoff between usability and security. [01:01] allowing users to read any files.. hm [01:02] part of the issue is caused by cups' fucked up architecture [01:02] tonyyarusso: dpkg -c on the .deb will show you what it's installing [01:02] LaserJock: I don't have a .deb yet ;) [01:02] seems that vorlon wasn't happy with you making it suid-root === caravena__ [n=caravena@33-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] ajmitch: never kind vorlon. the problem is that suid root is the only way to make it work on ubuntu and several other derivatives. [01:03] yet reading sensitive files is *really* a bad thing [01:04] yup [01:04] but so is cups' overall arcitecture === ajmitch would rather have a broken/non-existant package than one that was wide open [01:04] sure, but cups is crap :) === ajmitch wonders what keescook or pitti would say about it [01:05] OK I'm really freakin' sick of networking under feisty [01:05] we all know this, but there's hardly any usable replacement [01:05] bddebian: isn't it fun? [01:06] NO [01:06] bddebian: ease your tensions & review some packages instead [01:08] I need debian/rules to call a script in the source directory before doing anything else. Is a line of ../bootstrap.pl at the top of rules right/ [01:08] ? [01:08] no [01:08] dang [01:08] ajmitch: pitti was CC on this bug. let's see what he has to say. [01:08] you can't have rules like that outside of a make target [01:08] ajmitch: I'm trying to but my Edgy machine apparently doesn't have enough memory for this POS enblend package and I can't get my feisty machine back on the fucking network [01:08] do it at the top of configure, or if necessary (and only if necessary) at the top of clean: [01:09] or in clean: [01:09] bddebian: not that much has changed in feisty for networking [01:09] maybe we should fork cups to fix it? [01:10] hub: ubuntu did that to some extent already. it's actually debian that would need t merge ubuntu's changes [01:10] nih [01:10] ... === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:11] hub: since kmuto already said that he was dropping maintenance after Etch's release, it's quite lkely that pitti will take over and merge what's left of the ubuntu changes. [01:11] that end up being a good news [01:11] hub: however, it still doesn't fix cups' fucked up architecture. [01:11] poor pitti [01:11] ajmitch: there is no configure or anything until that is run it seems. [01:11] tonyyarusso: there will be [01:12] Q-FUNK: yeah. I don't have wonderfull memories of cups [01:12] if you're using cdbs, they'll just be hidden away somewhere & you need to hook things in the right place === hub has removed cups from his server [01:12] ajmitch: eh? Sorry, this is my first go at this, and I'm a tad confused. Attempting to use debhelper and pbuilder. [01:12] I don't know how I had this cups installed on it [01:12] hub: cups is fantastic as a user/administrator experience. dead-easy to use. however, the architecture is not safe and the code sloppy. [01:13] tonyyarusso: then there must be a configure rule in debian/rules [01:13] Q-FUNK: it other issues as well [01:13] Q-FUNK: having written a "product" around it in the past [01:13] hm actually, there may not be [01:13] but there should be a binary rules in there === ajmitch looks at what is required [01:13] ajmitch: OK, then tell me why it was working, I reboot and now it's not? :-) === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:14] bddebian: because you broke it [01:14] hub: of course, forkinf the damn thing and re-writing it clean could be worth it; save the suer and admin experience, but end up with a clean and safe architecture. [01:14] Q-FUNK: gnome-cups-manager also gave me headaches [01:14] ajmitch: yes, I see a line of "configure: configure-stamp", with dh_testdir and touch configure-stamp under it. [01:14] bddebian: you know how I hate it when people report a problem of 'not working'? [01:14] tonyyarusso: right, you may get away with sticking the bootstrap rule in there - it shouldn't need ../ either === ajmitch doesn't like running nasty scripts at build time [01:15] ajmitch: I'll try. /me crosses fingers...this package seems odd [01:15] you can't do anything at build time that requires network access, or writing outside of the build tree [01:16] All the script does is create a pile of files, which SHOULD be done by untarring, but hey. [01:16] can it not be done before you create the source package? [01:16] which does add things to the .diff.gz, etc [01:17] Honestly, I'm not sure. === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@27.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] OK, where the hell did the wmaster0 device come from? [01:21] bddebian: did you try putting a ralink card in Master mode or something? [01:22] I didn't do shit but dist-upgrade [01:22] interesting [01:22] hey let's blame it on NetworkManager! [01:23] no kernel/networking stuff happened yesterday/today? [01:23] I mean there was a lrm yesterday of unrelated changes [01:24] bddebian: what kind of network setup? ethernet with DHCP? [01:24] wireless static [01:25] Using control panel jacks up the configuration every time so I whack it by hand [01:25] ah, that killed me too [01:25] Which has been working up until today [01:25] can you use DHCP? [01:25] I'd prefer not to but I can [01:26] I got around it by setting my router 's DHCP to give my machine a static IP [01:26] so on the machine's end it's still DHCP [01:26] it just always get's the same IP [01:26] I could never get the wireless to detect the essid without doing it by hand [01:26] It's a stupid broadcom wireless :-( [01:26] <_ion> I don't really care about what addresses the boxes in my local network get. I call them by name anyway. [01:27] I need to get stable IPs for port forwarding :) [01:27] _ion: my problem is I have a few ports forwarded from the DSL router [01:27] <_ion> I have a box in DMZ for a reason. ;-) [01:27] RAOF: Exactly ;-) [01:27] Now that my router isn't broken, I can finally use Avahi. Yay. [01:28] Hardware sucks almost as much as software :( [01:28] bddebian: you could always uninstall/turn off Network Manager === Tonio_ [n=tonio@27.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] for a LAN DHCP should be fairly constant [01:32] unless you have a lot of computers [01:32] and really short lease-times [01:32] and _ion dmz's aren't as magical as they are advertised to be [01:32] Or you just set up the DHCP server to offer fixed IPs based on MAc. [01:32] _ion: especially with UDP traffic it loves to eat packets as if they were "magical dmz sequences" === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-79-61.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:33] RAOF: provided that's a supported feature :) [01:33] jdong: Hardware sucks :) [01:33] lol [01:34] Particularly: my Netgear router. For some reason, it killed Avahi until I updated the firmware. [01:34] likely eats multicast [01:34] or IGMP [01:34] most routers that break it have an option for that [01:36] Lathiat: no, it begins thinking some raw data is a TCP header and "does the favor" of replacing "IP addresses" [01:37] er, heh [01:37] TCP hates it too; I've had cases of stalled transfers of multi-GB data in predictable spots because of it. [01:37] "gaming mode" / "DMZ" both can do that :( === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [01:37] solution: SSH transfer... randomizes failure spots [01:37] or turn off DMZ :P === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cyberjackal [n=cyberjac@pool-70-109-61-28.clppva.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["WeeChat] === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock stabs amarok [01:55] die! [01:55] I suggest a sword. It's cooler. [01:56] hey Laser_away [01:56] er...LaserJock [01:56] stupid tab completion [01:57] sorry zul [01:58] LaserJock: So this package I was attempting, seems not to be in the usual format, so I'm not quite sure how I'm supposed to proceed. http://www.livejournal.org/download/code/livejournal-2003082500.tar.gz [02:06] tonyyarusso: I like the README.txt [02:07] LaserJock: Yeah, that's a goodie. === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] <_ion> jdong: Uh. I'm not sure we're talking about the same DMZ. [02:09] _ion: where it assumes packets directed at the router not being explicitly forwarded will get implicitly forwarded to a particular port or IP? [02:09] _ion: yeah, that one.' [02:09] <_ion> jdong: I have three interfaces in my gw: net, LAN and DMZ. [02:09] some routers/setups do it better than others [02:10] but average appliance off the consumer shelves sucks for it [02:10] <_ion> And only certain traffic is explicitly forwarded to the box in DMZ. [02:10] oh [02:10] ok then we speak of different DMZ === caravena_ [n=caravena@247-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] store-bought router DMZ = implicit port forwarding [02:10] via IP header rewrite [02:10] D-Link calls it 'gaming mode' IIRC [02:11] apparently data corruption is a game now. [02:12] <_ion> Also, there's no rule there can't be multiple machines in the DMZ. [02:12] _ion: DMZ in the true sense yeah :) [02:13] I was assuming you meant the router-in-a-blue-box DMZ :) [02:13] <_ion> My router is in a boring grey PC box and it's running OpenBSD. :-) [02:14] that's sweet :) [02:15] tonyyarusso: I don't think you picked a trivial package to make ;-) [02:15] LaserJock: Dangnabit! hehe, better luck next time I guess. [02:15] tonyyarusso: I think you might want to look at some similar apackages, mediawiki coms to mind [02:15] LaserJock: That makes me feel a little better though - a sign that it's not just me being utterly incompetent. [02:16] I think that vorlon managed to ensure his place in a graveyard with his last reply to debian bug 411580 [02:16] Debian bug 411580 in cups-pdf "cups-pdf: 2.4.2-2 broke functionality" [Grave,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/411580 [02:17] tonyyarusso: but I think you should be able to run that bootstrap first and then do what you need to do to install stuff to the right place [02:17] LaserJock: So just run the bootstrap, pretend it came like that, and then do wiki instructions from there? === blueCommand [n=bluecomm@unaffiliated/bluecommand] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] Q-FUNK: heh. ouch [02:21] Hobbsee: vorlon has just revealed himself to be an explicit Ubuntu hater who wouldn't hesitate to NMU a package if he disagrees with something that was inserted to support Ubuntu out of the box. [02:21] tonyyarusso: you should be able to run the bootstrap from debian/rules ok [02:22] Q-FUNK: well, saying it's more important to have it work in Debian than Ubuntu makes sense from a Debian point of view [02:22] LaserJock: I guess I'll have to futz a bit - not as hopeful of meeting the Thurs. deadline anymore, oh well. [02:23] LaserJock: in anotther bug, he explicitely said that he doesn't give a damn about making it work for ubuntu. he doesn't care if a maintainer wants to avoid a fork. [02:25] that's sad === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cyberjackal [n=cyberjac@pool-70-109-61-28.clppva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] Hobbsee: is there anyway to have better control over default applications other than Default Applications? :-) [02:38] LaserJock: um.... [02:38] yes and no [02:38] ie, you can select a file, right click, say "open with..." pick app, clikc the option that says "always open with this program" [02:39] in gnome you can select from a list [02:39] but in Default Applications it looks like I have to know the exact command to execute === bddebian strokes out [02:39] in particular I want thunderbird and Firefox [02:39] click the ..., then you can select it from the menu, iirc? [02:40] Hobbsee: that's a KDE feature.... We decided to make USB unmount safely first. [02:40] ;-) [02:40] heh === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@87.19.131.238] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:40] but GNOME is so simple! you _JUST_ go and edit the mime files...... [02:41] OK it's a damn firmware problem [02:41] as opposed to an undamned one. [02:42] Isn't firmware fun. [02:42] NO [02:43] Hobbsee: ahh, that's better. I thought the ... was a file dialog === RAOF basks in the supportedness of his Intel wireless. === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] hm.. how long time does it take for new pkgs to show up in the REVU? [02:53] 15 min since i used dput :S === Tonio_ [n=tonio@27.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matt_good [n=matt@ip24-255-125-63.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] blueCommand: are you in the http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy group? [03:01] Yes [03:02] It says "Leave the Team" on the right atleast so I assume I am :) [03:03] morning all [03:04] hello [03:05] hi blueCommand Hobbsee === Talaman [n=kris@71-93-40-60.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] Hobbsee, Since this is my first package, I'm bound to have missed something :) [03:08] "the greeting application appears to be crashing" is the error i get, any ideas? [03:09] hm [03:09] My nice chances file is in ftp://revu.tauware.de/incoming/rejected [03:10] Talaman: That you ask the question again, in a support channel? Is this the channel you meant to post that in? [03:10] in any channel someone may be able to help [03:10] blueCommand: which package? [03:10] winekeyd [03:11] That's not this channel. It's either #ubuntu (if you're using Dapper (6.06) or Edgy (6.10)), or #ubuntu+1 (if you're using Fesity) [03:11] simple we don't know works just as well === Talaman [n=kris@71-93-40-60.static.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [03:12] Just wanted to say hello. I'm interested in contributing to Ubuntu and am currently starting to look at the Debian Maintainer's guide and packaging guides. Any other places I should look to get started? [03:12] You've seen the Ubuntu packaging guide? That's really good :) [03:13] blueCommand: looks like you need to add an -sa to the source building command (dpkg-buildpackage or dbuild) [03:13] blueCommand: that will include the .orig.tar.gz in the upload [03:13] hm [03:13] ok === jwhitlark [n=jwhitlar@h-67-102-70-2.snfccasy.covad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:16] Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of winekeyd_0.2-1.dsc [03:16] Note: This problem might be caused by files already existent on the server. [03:16] For the official Debian upload queues, the dcut(1) utility can be used [03:16] to remove stale files from unsuccessful uploads. [03:16] :( [03:16] remove the .upload file [03:16] blueCommand: Don't bother about dcut, it doesn't work on REVU. [03:17] When that happened to me, I had to get one of the REVU admins to clean the incoming directory of my package files. [03:17] before i upload, "Distribution: unstable", is that correct? [03:17] No. Feisty. [03:17] ok === blueCommand closes his eyes and gusses which file contains that line [03:18] debian/changelog :) [03:19] one step ahead of you :D [03:19] * Initial release (Closes: #nnnn) [03:19] what' that? [03:20] That's the default dh_make changelog. It's a Debian thing. [03:20] LaserJock: If you get bored, I stuck a new gpib up on REVU ;-) [03:20] baah, same problem :( [03:21] blueCommand: Hm. Before you upload that package, you might want to run it through lintian (by running debuild, normally). If you've got the default changelog, do you also have the default section (debian/control), copyright, etc? [03:21] i use debuild :S [03:21] i guess I have though [03:22] blueCommand: And did lintian say anything (there'd be a bunch of things like: "E: section is dh_make template") [03:22] control and rules are changed [03:22] You also *need* to edit debian/copyright. [03:23] http://rafb.net/p/vsbL2y66.html [03:24] Hm, didn't know you could do that with debuild :) [03:24] But that hasn't run lintian :) [03:24] Try just "debuild -sa -k_yourkey_" [03:24] ok [03:24] no [03:24] debuild -S -sa -k499D4223 [03:24] no? :) [03:25] you don't want to build a binary just yet [03:25] LaserJock: Well, the -S for the upload. But doesn't he want to check the lintian output on his binary, too? [03:25] <_ion> Rather edit DEBSIGN_KEYID in ~/.devscripts [03:25] oh, i did that. the paste just went weird [03:25] Before he uploads? [03:26] RAOF: yes, but first things first [03:26] building a binary in there will make a mess [03:26] *can make a mess [03:27] Ok, if clean doesn't clean properly, yeah. [03:27] blueCommand: do you have lintian installed? [03:27] yes [03:27] no :) [03:27] thought i had [03:28] Now I have [03:29] Now, the debuild -S -sa -k_foo_ should produce some lintian output, too. [03:29] or you can run lintian -i on the .dsc file [03:29] yeah [03:29] it did [03:30] whatever it just did :S [03:30] so now what? :) [03:30] blueCommand: Now, you get to see whether or not what it says is relevant. Then, you fix it. [03:31] well [03:31] Then you ask a REVU admin to remove the files from your previous upload from incoming (at least, that's what I had to do in a similar situation) [03:31] http://rafb.net/p/uL9h4F20.html [03:32] Remove all those files. [03:32] Unless you need them, which you presumably don't. === RAOF bails for luncheon === RAOF is now known as RAOF|Away [03:33] aha! [03:33] it worked [03:34] now.. where did I put my poking stick? === LaserJock runs out the door [03:36] :) any admin on atm? I can't tell :D === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] blueCommand: yeah [03:38] Ah! Please REVU admin: remove the files from my previous upload from incoming (at least, that's what RAOF had to do in a similar situation) [03:38] :D [03:39] what was it - winekeyed or something? [03:39] winekeyd [03:39] done :) [03:39] nice :) [03:39] yey [03:42] If I have nothing to do one day, is it as simple as picking a software from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates , package it and upload it? [03:42] Hobbsee: hm, you're an admin now? how useful [03:43] Or am I obligated to support that software for all eternity? :) [03:43] we prefer that people don't upload & run [03:43] You are bound for eternity :-) === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] blueCommand: don't listen to bddebian, we want your soul ... I mean packages :-) [03:44] hehe [03:44] :) [03:45] ajmitch: not an admin - but i can clear that queue [03:45] I was thinking about like freenet. I really like the project and would like to help out, but I can't dedicate any bigger amounts of time to it [03:45] Hobbsee: how'd you get that without being an admin? === ajmitch can go back to ignoring tiber then :) [03:45] The damn IRL [03:46] LaserJock: being in the revu group [03:46] on LP? [03:46] or on tiber? [03:46] on tiber [03:47] I read somewhere that it shouldn't take more than 5 min for it to show up. In that case I think I screwed up again :D [03:47] blueCommand: I trust that you have joined the appropriate launchpad team & asked for the keyring to be resynced? [03:47] Joined yes [03:48] & got confirmation that it was resynced after you asked? [03:48] A while ago [03:48] how long was awhile? days? hours? [03:48] 3 hours perahls [03:48] 3 hours perahps [03:48] ah, that's no good :) [03:48] ... whatever [03:48] oww [03:49] LaserJock: being in the REVU group on tiber. [03:49] then: Hobbsee resync the keyring! [03:49] Hobbsee can resync the keyring [03:49] :D === Hobbsee bleh [03:49] so can ajmitch. === Hobbsee resyncs [03:49] then Hobbsee can unreject the package & let it be processed again [03:49] And perhaps you need to remove the old winekeyd again, no? [03:50] Aha [03:50] ajmitch: how do i unreject something? [03:50] wow, there's lots that's been rejected [03:50] mv /home/ftp/incoming/rejected/winekeyd*changes /home/ftp/incoming [03:51] or similar === Hobbsee wonders about rm'ing all of that, too [03:51] oh right [03:51] did you delete it? [03:54] yes [03:55] (before you wrote the line about the move) [03:55] sigh [03:55] so you asked, and then deleted? === ajmitch throws up his hands in despair [03:55] :D [03:56] should i dput again? [03:56] blueCommand: please do [03:57] there we go [03:58] now I wait === cyberjackal [n=cyberjac@pool-70-109-61-28.clppva.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Bye"] [03:59] say I want to update this program (0.25 or so), how would I do that? Any wiki about that? [03:59] AHA! It's in! === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] You don't have permission to access /revu1-incoming/winekeyd-0702192155/winekeyd_0.2-1_source.changes on this server. [04:03] This system scares me :S [04:06] good, it should ;-) [04:07] no, really. Why can't I download that file? [04:07] All the other ones are fine [04:08] because the permissions on it are screwed [04:09] ... and that's normal? :) [04:13] they aren't screwed [04:13] it's for saftey I believe [04:13] the .changes file has a gpg signature [04:14] hm [04:19] boo [04:19] woo [04:26] hoo === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena_ [n=caravena@247-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matt_good [n=matt@ip24-255-125-63.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF|Away is now known as RAOF === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === canine_kouji [n=canine_k@zanshin.tsumelabs.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] hey... [05:33] I'm not sure who is packaging the aiptek driver, but is it possible to distribute a driver works actually works? with sensitivity and etc === rexbron [n=rexbron@199.212.72.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=rob@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] canine_kouji: You could file a bug against the drivers (with exactly what fails to work) on launchpad, that's a better spot to get attention. === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] RAOF: possibly === ash211 [n=andrew@71-86-32-82.static.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] RAOF: looking at the sourcecode for aiptek driver, I'm actually quiet surprised it still works. The code looks like utter crap [05:57] and nobody seems to want to port the latest code(1.9), they(ubuntu guy in charge of it) just keeping monkey patching the release code(1.0) [05:58] canine_kouji: It's not proper monkey patching if it's not Python code :) [05:58] Well, you're probably a bit late for Feisty. [05:58] But ask the maintainer if you could package up the new version. [05:59] I know I am [05:59] I want to update this code so aiptek works... these tablets eat wacom's money, I'll definitely help out, heh [05:59] Alternatively, if there's a newer Debian package, ask to get it sync'd. But probably not now, because UVF has passed. [05:59] wacom overcharges for their stuff === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:00] if someone can make and release a pad about the same for 1/5th of the price, be angry. === fdoving_ [n=frode@edge.lnix.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium_ [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:21] Right. It's about a week since I emailed the gnome-compiz-manager guy. I'm going to fix the trivial stuff in the review, and upload a new pacakge. === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-179.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945477.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #ubuntu-motu ["trombone"] === rob [i=rob@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] Ok, there's a new gnome-compiz-manager ( http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4426 ) up. 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[09:17] week or two ago === StevenK was expecting to have more than 3 digits of it. === StevenK ponders telling the submitter of #66655 to just file it upstream. [09:24] Trying to use a mod_perl module against mod_perl2 leads to pain. [09:24] <_ion> s/against mod_perl2 // [09:24] <_ion> There, fixed. [09:27] _ion: :-P === rob [i=rob@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck- [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=rob@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@17-4.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@p548FF5EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=ant1@62.139.130.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:51] Hello [09:53] may someone help me with this review: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4397 , I don't understand what's wrong [09:54] AnAnt: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-February/000249.html [09:56] ajmitch: I am maintainer of acon, it does not exist (YET) in Debian in the first place === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-89-20.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:57] ok [09:57] but for now I'd still set Maintainer: to be the appropriate motu list [09:57] ajmitch: so, I don't understand how this applies to my package ? 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