Wolfegrr... i have this problem with not seeing things in front of my face... and i cant see the alt12:14
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graft'other installation options'12:14
Wolfefrom here you mean? http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/12:14
paul__just instlled ubuntu today really different to windows12:15
paul__iiiits so difficult get my head around12:15
Wolfeits about 10x better right?12:15
paul__i like it but i cant figuire it out!12:15
graftwhat's not to figure out?12:15
paul__trying install things is random12:15
graftyo, Wolfe, it's right frickin there! "Alternate Install CD"12:16
paul__i cannot work it out lol12:16
graftpaul__: *nix has a VERY different philosophy on programs than windows12:16
paul__ive downloaded files so how do i now load them up12:16
graftat least, linux does12:16
paul__using this terminal thing :S?12:16
graftno, no12:16
graftso, 99% of the time, you install programs through your 'package manager'12:16
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paul__how do i get therE?12:17
graftwhich is a big repository of free software maintained by ubuntu12:17
graftum... you should have a little thingy called 'adept notifier' running in your taskbar?12:17
paul__hpow do i get to package manager12:17
Adydaserr as i was asking, Is it possible X11 can have a conf per user?12:17
paul__i aint a clue about this sorry lol12:17
graftpaul__: that's fine... the trick is just to be willing to get a clue, and you'll do great12:17
paul__i like the whole idea of linux but nrly gave in to the temptations of the easy life with crappy windows but i stuck in there12:18
paul__and im trying12:18
paul__so how do i install a file ive just downloaded?12:18
Adydasdepends what file it is?12:18
paul__im using kunbuntu 6.0612:18
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paul__like prgrams and updates to be able go on youtube.com etc12:19
paul__cos i had to get plugins but using konquerer was a mission12:19
graftpaul__: i'ma explain, hode on12:19
grafthit alt-f2 and a little box should come up12:19
paul__so had get firefox dont even know how i intalled that tbh12:19
grafttype 'adept' in there12:19
AdydasYou mean Flash?12:19
paul__yer flash12:19
AdydasGet Opera,12:19
paul__ive hit alt f212:19
mauropaul__: installing programs can be different than windows. For most of them you dont ahve to downlaod them, you just open up Adept and type the name, it will downlaod them and install them automatically12:20
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paul__damn this is different lol12:20
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paul__glad i ofund this irc!12:20
soulrideryeah, but dont get discouraged, its rather easy!12:20
graftit's different at first... once you understand it philosophically it's much better12:20
paul__its rnning like a dream i must say12:20
graftbasically, the idea is, most software is free, so it can be loaded up into the repository by ubuntu and configured for you in a package12:20
Adydaspaul__:  i can give you a very bad, log / record of what ive done / did to get things going12:20
paul__2.2 ghz 1gb ram12:20
paul__mmm :D12:21
Adydasinternet/flash/ mp3s etc12:21
graftso you just have to click and install the package, and it'll work perfectly12:21
paul__how do i play my mp3s thats another thing!12:21
paul__they wont play12:21
graftdo you have adept running?12:21
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paul__hopw do i get to adept ?12:21
paul__i honeslty aint a clue im a geek at windows12:21
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graftyou hit alt-f2, yah? the little box comes up to run a command? type 'adept' in there, and run it12:22
paul__got it12:22
paul__next step12:22
graftokay, this is a package manager... you can search in it for cool stuff12:22
graftfor example, firefox is in there12:22
graftso search for firefox and install it12:22
paul__ok so what is advisable stuff to help get me going?12:22
paul__its as easy as that?12:23
paul__oh lol12:23
paul__hang on12:23
mattis^as easy as that,, yo12:23
paul__says i got it installed12:23
paul__cos i have now12:23
graftwell, good for you, then...12:23
graftactually firefox should be there by default anyway12:23
paul__it wasnt for me was konquerer12:24
graftnow to get flash you have to enable multiverse, which is a mite tricky12:24
paul__but im using kubuntu 6.0612:24
paul__not 6.1012:24
graftyeah, that's what's on your taskbar, maybe, but firefox is still installed... just no icon for it12:24
paul__oh i see12:24
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:24
paul__duide was wiv da !12:25
AdydasOpera for the win!12:25
graftactually firefox should install flash by itself12:25
graftassuming you have a reasonably current version12:25
grafti dunno why you're running 6.06, though...12:26
paul__i dunno12:26
Adydasi installed opera then got the flash gunzip and cp /install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins/12:26
AdydasWorks mint12:26
paul__cos i like it better lol12:26
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graftAdydas: same thing works for firefox12:26
paul__what shud i be running?12:26
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AdydasThere ya go12:26
graftyou can unzip to ~/.mozilla/plugins12:26
graftwhich firefox will do for you, actually, once you go to any page with flash in it12:26
Adydasso just choose opera / firefox and your away with flash im moments12:26
graftit'll prompt you to install flash12:26
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paul__im pretty spun out12:27
kristjan_how do I mount iso?12:27
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter12:27
graftkristjan_: with the loopback interface12:27
gugu^How can I uninstall Knetwork manager12:27
Adydasgugu^: apt-get remove knetwork12:28
chavokristjan_, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint12:28
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graftyeah, what chavo said12:28
graftslow typing :P12:28
kristjan_wow, mounting is fast12:29
kristjan_graft: then I finished reviewing, I unmount?12:29
gugu^Adydas: it`s not working,  E: Couldn't find package networkmanager12:29
hellcattravwould that be causing firefox to crash? cos thats what happens, it just suddenly crashes12:29
gugu^Adydas: it`s not working,  E: Couldn't find package knetwork12:29
Adydasgugu^: try apt-cache search networkmanager12:29
Adydasand find excatly what the package is / could be12:30
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kristjan_sudo unmount /path/to/mountpoint?12:30
Adydasadydas@desktop:~$ apt-cache search knetwork12:30
Adydasknetworkconf - KDE network configuration tool12:30
Adydasknetworkmanager - User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager12:30
Adydasthen remove / install as you see fit12:30
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paul__so how do i play my mp3 from the cd i backed them uo frpm windows xp?12:30
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graftkristjan_: umount12:31
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Adydaspaul__: Mount the cd, copy or play directly from either source ( assuming you have installed and configured a working mp3 player )12:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:31
gugu^Adydas: works :), thx12:31
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paul__playing mp3?12:31
Adydasmay i suggest mplayer // amarok and Vlc for media of the movie and mp3 nature12:31
paul__help ne112:31
paul__how i get those12:32
graftpaul, read the RestrictedFormats page12:32
graftit'll tell you how to proceed12:32
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Adydasgugu^:  your welcome12:33
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paul__still confused reading this thing12:34
Adydaswhat are you trying to get going mp3s?12:34
paul__i burnt them on disk from xp12:34
paul__they are viewable wiv names etc just wont play12:34
Adydasapt-get install amarok amarok-xine libxine-extracodecs12:35
Adydasthat got my mp3s going12:35
hellcattravok firefox just keeps crashing12:35
Niihow can i write files to my ntfs partition ?12:35
hellcattravthis is unaccetable and ridciulus....12:35
paul__where do i type this apt get sutff?12:35
paul__sorry im confused12:35
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:35
Adydaspaul__: a konsole12:35
hellcattravor terminal(which is like a console12:35
Adydasyeah a terminal window / console / konsole12:36
paul__ok kool12:36
hellcattravpaul_ are you using GNOME or KDE?12:36
Wolfeok, i have one more question12:36
Adydaspaul__:  dont forget sudo12:36
Wolfehow do you know what the md5sum is going to say?12:36
Adydaspaul_ use konsole then12:36
Adydasrun command "konsole"12:36
paul__which is where?12:36
Adydasthen sudo apt-get install amarok amarok-xine libxine-extracodecs12:36
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paul__lwheres konsole12:37
Adydaspaul__: go to the " start button " as it were and then go to run command12:37
Wolfewhenever you get the chance please12:37
Adydastype konsole and hit enter12:37
SanneWolfe: you won't know. It just tells you. What do you want to do?12:37
cpk1Wolfe: md5sum nameoffile12:37
paul__it didnt work12:37
Wolfewell, first, whats the point of md5sum?12:37
paul__thew sudo thing u gave me12:37
Adydaspaul__:  or go to System12:37
Adydasand select it from there ( the black montitor logo )12:38
cpk1Wolfe: you then compare that number to the number that they gave you from wherever you downloaded the file12:38
hellcattravpaul_: are you suing GNOME or KDE?12:38
Adydasoh so you have terminal12:38
paul__using KDE12:38
Adydashellcattrav: he said KDE12:38
Wolfewhere does it say the number on the site xD12:38
Adydaspaul__: sudo apt-get install amarok amarok-xine libxine-extracodecs12:38
hellcattravso yeah, system, what they said12:38
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cpk1Wolfe: is this for kubuntu isos?12:38
paul__do i just type that in the window?12:38
paul__as if it were msdos say12:38
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Adydasit will download and install amarok mp3 player and needed stuff to play mp3s12:39
Adydasand codecs12:39
paul__E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:39
mousis there someone from brussels?12:39
paul__thats what it says ady12:39
Dekansbsomeone on a 64 bits distro ?12:39
Adydasyou using adept?12:39
paul__u told me use konsole12:39
SanneDekans: I am12:39
cpk1Wolfe: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/edgy/MD5SUMS there will probably several numbers, use the one for whichever iso you downloaded12:39
paul__mate im confused12:40
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Adydasyou cant use apt-get if your allready using it12:40
Adydasvia a KDE program called adept12:40
paul__whats apt get?12:40
Adydasi belive the console version of the same thing12:40
Wolfethanks man12:40
DekansSanne: do you hace kickoff menu ?12:40
Wolfethats awesome12:40
Adydasdos based program installer as it were12:40
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)12:40
SanneDekans: is that the new menu? If so, no.12:40
paul__it says amarok is already the newest version12:41
cpk1aptitude is more useful than apt-get12:41
DekansSanne: yes12:41
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Adydascpk1: im trying to help him the way i know best, if somone else wants to take over sweet12:41
SanneDekans: I have the old fashioned menu ;). Also, I'm still on Dapper.12:42
Adydaspaul__: what about the codecs12:42
paul__adydas your doing gd man12:42
paul__least sum1 helps!12:42
DekansSanne: me too, kickoff is not available for kubuntu 6412:42
Adydaspaul__: try sudo apt-get install amarok-xine libxine-extracodecs12:42
cpk1Adydas: that was for your information too =) aptitude does more complex stuff12:42
Adydasto ensure you have the required codecs12:42
paul__This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:42
paul__is only available from another source12:43
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paul__E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate12:43
paul__paul@paul-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get firefox12:43
Adydascpk1: ah, one day ill get around to it.. Ive spent years in console only debian its all i know..12:43
paul__E: Invalid operation firefox12:43
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paul__paul@paul-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install amarok-xine libxine-extracodecs12:43
paul__Reading package lists... Done12:43
chrissgeeanyone feel like assistng a newbie with wireless before I rip my eyes out12:43
paul__Building dependency tree... Done12:43
cpk1aptitude uses basically the same commands...12:43
SanneDekans: ah! So, you can try the backports, or kubuntu.org repositories, or build it yourself.12:43
paul__amarok-xine is already the newest version.12:43
paul__Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:43
paul__This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:43
paul__is only available from another source12:43
DekansSanne: the sources are not available12:43
paul__E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate12:43
paul__paul@paul-desktop:~$ udo apt-get install amarok-xine libxine-extracodecs12:43
paul__adydas thats wot said mate12:43
paul__i managed to figure out the wireless!12:43
Dekansonle i386 packages12:43
SanneDekans: not? how come?12:43
Adydaspaul__: use pastebin for pasting stuff next time :P i dont mind but others may here.. have you updated apt?12:44
paul__im gonna give in sumtime i really dont want to12:44
cpk1chrissgee: whats your problem? I hate wireless but find I cant get away from helping with it12:44
Adydaspaul__:  apt-get update12:44
paul__its hard when sum1 cant show u and i rlly dont have a clue12:44
Adydaspaul__:  apt-get upgrade12:44
paul__ok i try that12:44
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DekansSanne: i only find i386 packages, not any source tarball12:44
Adydasif the update and upgrades done you wont get to far.. its allmost the first 2 commands i run when doing a fresh install12:44
Adydasif you havent done apt-get update and upgrade expect some big downloads12:45
SanneDekans: where do you find those i386 packages?12:45
chrissgeeguess I'm not registered12:45
paul__done that adydas12:45
Adydas400-600mb type downloads / updates12:45
Adydaspaul__: and its all fresh and up to date?12:45
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paul__says done12:45
DekansSanne: kde-look or beryl forum12:45
paul__Reading package lists... Done12:45
paul__Building dependency tree... Done12:45
soulriderpaul__: never paste like that12:46
soulrideruse the pastebin12:46
paul__sorry :S12:46
soulrider!paste | paul12:46
ubotupaul: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:46
paul__i dopnt know do i!12:46
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soulriderits allright12:46
SanneDekans: ah. Usually, if it's GPL, the sources must be available somewhere if binaries are distributed.12:46
soulriderwe all pasted that way the first time :P12:46
paul__adydas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6770/12:46
paul__thats what it says12:47
paul__what u reckon i do now?12:47
Adydasthis command was executed wrongly12:47
Adydaspaul@paul-desktop:~$ sudo - apt get update12:47
Adydasrun sudo apt-get update12:47
DekansSanne: it is strange but not any source12:47
paul__ok thanks12:47
Adydasnot sudo - apt get update12:48
paul__whats sudo mean m8?12:48
Adydasit gives you root or super user access12:48
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:48
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paul__didnt work12:48
Adydaspastebin me again12:48
SanneDekans: I'm looking myself now. If it's like that, it would be a GPL violation (or a t least, if you asked them for sources, and you won't get them, it would be).12:48
hellcattravadydas, whats the command to get firefox....i guess at this point i need to reinstall it, how would i do that?12:48
cpk1paul__: can you pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list'12:48
vaswhuts the Linux version of mkdir12:49
Adydashellcattrav: sorry i use Opera, obtained from www.opera.com12:49
vasi mea copy****12:49
chrissgeehow do i register so I can talk to people, this is killing me12:49
cpk1hellcattrav: sudo aptitude reinstall firefox (i think thats the package name)12:49
Adydasvas: cp12:49
DekansSanne: i search this afternoon, and i had ever searched for it12:49
Dekansno source but a kubuntu version is also available...12:49
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Adydaspaul__: no run at the start12:50
Adydas"sudo apt-get update"12:50
paul__u just said use run lol12:50
Adydasthats the full command12:50
vassay I am CPing a file but a folder in one of the paths has two words in it.. how would I go about doing that12:50
vasMy projects is the folder name12:50
Rob-Westi only wanna use a pendrive because i dont want to reload my box12:50
Adydasi ment it in a run or do the following12:50
Adydasno that run was apart of the command12:51
cpk1vas: cp nameoffile /home/vas/this\ has\ a\ space/12:51
paul__ah its dun summit12:51
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vascpki: I love you12:51
paul__oh soz ady lol12:51
paul__that of ne help adydas?12:52
Dave_njI have a quick question... Is anyone interested in helping me please?12:52
hellcattravwell ill try that, i do have opera on my XP boot, so lets just try that instead and if it doesn't work then ill go reinstall firefox12:52
cpk1paul__: you need to set up your repos to get libxine-extracodecs12:52
paul__how i do this ady?12:52
AdydasDave_nj: just ask :P12:52
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hellcattravthis is bollacks12:53
cpk1paul__: do 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list' and then on every line where there is just ONE # delete it12:53
hellcattravwhats the opera site?12:53
paul__how i get there konsle?12:53
paul__using konsole12:53
cpk1paul__: yes12:53
Dave_njThank you, is there a parameter I can enter into the start parameters on the Live CD of Ubuntu 6.1 in order to force the defaultDepth property to 16?12:53
hellcattravappearently konqueror and firefox don't work12:53
hellcattravim screwed12:53
cpk1hellcattrav: dont work with what?12:53
hellcattravso how can i get to opera12:54
paul__ive loaded that adyas now wot12:54
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Adydashellcattrav: opera.com12:54
Adydasdownload, un tar and run install.sh i belive12:54
SanneDekans: well, it should be somewhere in kde svn, but there doesn't seem to be a convenient source release yet. At least I also can't find any.12:54
Adydaslet it do its thing and your done12:54
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hellcattravok now its working in konqueror12:55
Adydaspaul__: As highlighted edit your sources list and free up all lines so there are no #'s Then re run the apt-get update command12:55
cpk1paul__: some lines have 2 #'s and other lines have just one #. every line that only has one # delete that #12:55
paul__thats what it said adydas_12:55
SanneAdydas, hellcattrav: isn't Opera installible from the commercial Ubuntu repository?12:55
hellcattravok so where should i put it, in my home folder?12:55
hellcattravis it?12:55
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SanneI think so, let me check12:55
AdydasSanne: i couldnt find it12:56
cpk1paul__: did a text editor open up?12:56
paul__yer lol12:56
paul__called kate12:56
paul__i closed it12:56
Adydasyou need it12:56
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SanneAdydas, hellcattrav: here's a blog announcement fro dapper, I bet it should be the same for edgy: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/introducing-the-dapper-commercial-repository/12:56
paul__how do i start ti again lol12:56
cpk1paul__: then do the same command again, you need to edit the file like i told you12:56
AdydasSanne: I cannot find opera via apt at all12:57
SanneAdydas: have you enabled the commercial ubuntu repository?12:57
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paul__right how do i edit this kate thing12:57
Adydaspaul__: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:57
paul__done that ady12:57
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Adydasremove all lines with 1 x #12:57
paul__oh i see12:58
cpk1[15:56:14]  <cpk1> paul__: some lines have 2 #'s and other lines have just one #. every line that only has one # delete that #12:58
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Adydasie # deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe should be  deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe12:58
Adydasleave the lines with 2 #s12:58
Wolfeok, imma go see if the alt disk works12:58
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paul__done that adyadas now what12:58
paul__save it?12:58
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Adydasonce you have saved do 'sudo apt-get update'12:58
SanneAdydas: Opera should be there for edgy, I can see it in the packages file: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz12:58
paul__save it to where?12:58
Adydaswhere it is12:58
paul__which is?12:59
Niiguys how can i write files to my ntfs drive? i tried that diskmounter but i only can read from it12:59
Adydasshoudl be/etc/apt/sources.list12:59
Adydasshoudl be /etc/apt/sources.list12:59
paul__so now what do i do12:59
AdydasNii: !ntfs12:59
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:59
paul__i just hit save12:59
SanneAdydas: so the sources.list entry should be: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main12:59
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse12:59
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ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)12:59
AdydasSanne: Wicked thanks, that lines not there at all01:00
Adydaspaul__ did you to what i said with apt-get agian01:00
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Adydas <Adydas> once you have saved do 'sudo apt-get update'01:00
paul__so run apt-get update?01:00
SanneAdydas: you're welcome01:00
paul__woo im getting it lol01:00
paul__says its not known lol01:01
hellcattravok, so what the hell do i do at this point?01:01
paul__on line 2601:01
Adydaspaul__: pastebin me01:01
hellcattravis there a command line prompt?  or do i look in synaptic?01:01
cpk1hellcattrav: what are you trying to do?01:01
hellcattravget opera01:02
AdydasUse the repo Sanne just highlighted01:02
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:02
Adydas( was news to me )01:02
cpk1hellcattrav: i think Sanne just said you can use deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main to get opera01:02
hellcattravand ndiswrapper(but iwas trying to get at least one thing done myself01:02
paul__there adydas01:02
Adydashellcattrav: <Sanne> Adydas: so the sources.list entry should be: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main01:02
hellcattravwhats that?01:02
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Sannethanks cpk1, Adydas, you type much faster than me ;)01:03
Adydashehe :p01:03
cpk1hellcattrav: add 'deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main' to your sources.list01:03
Adydaspaul__:  you have a typo in your sourceslist now01:03
AdydasType u is not known on line 26 in source list01:03
hellcattravnow how do i do that ?)01:03
paul__my sourcelist?01:03
Adydasre edit sources.list and remove the type from line 2601:03
cpk1paul__: pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list'01:03
paul__ok hang on01:03
AdydasIf you need help ID the type pastebin it01:03
cpk1hellcattrav: 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'01:04
hellcattravin a terminal?01:04
Adydaspaul__: same for you kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list01:04
paul__there adyydas01:04
cpk1hellcattrav: yes or just run that command01:04
Adydaspaul__:  Line 25 on that01:05
Adydasthere is a "se"01:05
paul__what bout line 25?01:05
paul__sorry im lost again01:05
Adydasrandomly in code you need to del it01:05
cpk1paul__: you did it wrong, you werent supposed to delete the whole line only the #01:05
paul__and for line 2601:05
paul__oh shit01:05
hellcattravkate opened up01:05
paul__only the hash?01:05
paul__not the wrtiting as well01:05
Adydasno you needed that :p01:05
Adydasit sok01:05
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paul__ffs now wot do i do lol01:05
Adydasit sok ill get you a new line to add into it01:06
Adydasdammit, i appear to be spamming the pastebin :/01:06
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paul__adydas_ what now m801:07
cpk1paul__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6777/ delete everything in your list and copy paste whats in there into it01:07
paul__done that adydas01:08
hellcattravit said authentication rejected....01:08
Adydassaved it01:08
Adydasthen sudo apt-get update01:08
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cpk1hellcattrav: you added 'deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main' (no quotes) to your sources.list?01:08
hellcattravme? or paul_?01:08
unworkedso... its not working still01:08
paul__SUCCESS adydas01:09
Adydasnow download it01:09
paul__download it?01:09
unworkedi used the alt cd, but i get the same error, and it only shows installation methods01:09
Adydasthe codecs01:09
paul__it just came up wiv a load of things lol01:09
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paul__running in the konsole01:09
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paul__i'll paste bin it01:09
cpk1hellcattrav: normally when I am talking to someone I prefix what I am saying with their name...01:09
yettenetWhere can I enable chat logging in Kopete?01:09
Adydasapt-get install amarok amarok-xine libxine-extracodecs01:09
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cpk1yettenet: its in the plugins01:10
Adydaspaul__: apt-get install amarok-xine libxine-extracodecs01:10
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yettenetIt doesn't seem like it saves the things :P01:10
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yettenetDo you know where it should save them?01:10
paul__didnt work adydas01:10
paul__this is hard work lol01:10
Adydaspaul__: Thats good, it worked and updated your repos01:10
Adydasdidnt work how?01:10
paul__the last thing u told me type in console01:10
paul__apt-get install amarok-xine libxine-extracodecs01:10
Adydaspaul__:  Do this one apt-get install amarok amarok-xine libxine-extracodecs01:10
paul__didnt work01:11
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chrissgeehow do I register with freenode01:11
paul__cudnt open lock file?01:11
cpk1yettenet: /home/cpk1/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs01:11
AdydasOh sorry01:11
Adydaspaul__:  sudo apt-get install amarok amarok-xine libxine-extracodecs01:11
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yettenetcpk1: Thanks01:11
paul__that did work m801:11
Adydasthere ya go01:11
paul__let me pastebin to make sure01:11
Adydasits all installed and you should / could be able to mp3 away now01:11
cpk1yettenet: replace cpk1 with your username =)01:11
paul__adydas_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6780/01:12
Adydaspaul__:  to test try running amarok from the console01:12
Adydasadydas@desktop:~$ amarok01:12
unworked(this is Wolfe again)01:12
AdydasHrm.. paul__ thats not good news01:12
paul__its not?01:13
paul__as in what respect?01:13
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:13
SanneAdydas, paul__: sudo apt-get install... (you omitted sudo)01:13
unworkedwell, its rather pointless to ask if no one is there01:13
Adydashe re did it with sudo after01:14
paul__done that ady01:14
SanneAdydas: I see, sorry01:14
unworkedi was just here with the error 'uknown interuption or fault' and someone suggested the alt cd01:14
unworkedi used the alt cd, but i get the same error, and it only shows installation methods01:14
unworkedtheres no, start or install01:14
SanneAdydas, paul__: maybe some repositories (universe, multiverse...) are not enabled yet?01:14
yettenetcpk1: It's okay now, thanks01:14
unworkedits just install via text mode or oem mode01:15
yettenetgnight, guys01:15
paul__how enable multiverse?01:15
cpk1paul__: please pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' again01:15
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AdydasOh, i just clicked would it matter hes using Drapper? as01:15
cpk1dapper has libxine-extracodecs too01:15
Adydas"I checked out the http but there are no dapper repositories,"01:15
Adydasoh cool01:16
cpk1!libxine-extracodecs dapper01:16
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB01:16
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Adydaspaul__: what does the following show01:17
Adydassudo apt-cache search extracodecs01:17
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cpk1paul__: find this line deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe and add multiverse to the end of it so it looks like this 'deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse'01:17
paul__whats what follwoing show01:17
paul__im lost again01:17
Adydasdo what cpk1s suggested01:18
paul__what do i do on that ive clicked it01:18
paul__now ive got an index01:18
hellcattravok, so how do  add that to my sources?01:18
Adydashellcattrav: add what?01:18
cpk1paul__: so do 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list' again and edit the file like i said01:18
Adydashellcattrav: that kdesu comamnd cpk1 just pointed out will allow you to add stuff to your sources to01:19
paul__adydas says bad file now01:19
paul__mate im getting stressed01:19
paul__bad device?01:19
paul__major opcode 14401:19
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Adydaswhats a bad file or bad device?01:19
cpk1paul__: ignore what it says and just edit the file01:19
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paul__theres no file to edit!01:20
Adydaspaul__:  find this line deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe and add multiverse to the end of it so it looks like this 'deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse'01:20
paul__failed to open device it says01:20
AdydasDo the above01:20
cpk1paul__: you did 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list' ?01:20
spitwisedevice?? awha?01:20
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Adydaswhat does the kdesu do out of intrest grant su? for kde?01:21
Adydasthats my guess anyway01:21
SanneAdydas: yes01:21
paul__right got it up now ady01:22
paul__now what do i need edit?01:22
hellcattravonce i have kate up, how do i add to sources, do i just copy and paste into that text?01:22
Adydaspaul__: find the line01:22
Adydasdeb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe01:22
SanneAdydas: it's better to use kdesu for gui apps than just sudo.01:22
cpk1paul__: find this line deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe and add multiverse to the end of it so it looks like this 'deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse'01:22
Adydasgo to the end of that line and add 'multiverse'01:22
paul__it dont load nuffink01:23
Adydashave you done this01:23
Adydaskdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list01:23
paul__The requested URL /ubuntu/multiverse was not found on this server.01:23
hellcattravdo i need to take the comments out of anything in the sources list?01:23
paul__hang on01:23
paul__so where it says01:23
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Adydashellcattrav: as per paul__s situation remove the lines with just 1 x # but ONLY remove the #01:24
paul__dapper main restricted01:24
paul__change that01:24
Adydaspaul__:  stop, well start again01:24
cpk1paul__: no01:24
Adydasfirstly do this01:24
Adydaskdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list01:24
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paul__shall i close everything?01:24
Adydasit loads thate kate text editor yes?01:24
cpk1paul__: there is a line that says EXACTLY 'deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe'01:24
hellcattravim in the kate text order, with sources list01:24
paul__ive foudn the lone01:24
cpk1paul__: change that line to read 'deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse'01:24
Adydaspaul__:  do you understand what cpk1 just said?01:25
hellcattravand im supposed to remove the line with 1 x?, bit confused here01:25
Adydashellcattrav: remove the #01:25
paul__ team.01:25
paul__deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse01:25
paul__deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper univer01:25
paul__thats what ive changed01:25
Adydasfrom the start of the line01:25
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hellcattravi see something that looks like this  ## major bug fix updates prdocued after the final release of01:25
Adydasso it goes from being # deb http.... to deb http...01:25
hellcattrav## distributingion...01:25
paul__hang on01:26
Adydasignore any line that starts as ##01:26
cpk1hellcattrav: a # at the beginning of a line means the line is commented out (will not be read by the program) so if you want the line to be read delete the #01:26
Adydasjust those that start as #01:26
paul__there aint any with the hash01:26
Adydasbut only del the #01:26
paul__aint none #01:26
Adydaspaul__: good work01:26
Adydasdid you use kate to locate that line01:26
paul__no i didnt delete any there actually aint ne lol01:26
hellcattravim looking at this:## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'01:26
hellcattravwhere are the 2 lines?01:27
cpk1hellcattrav: but like i told you before Sanne said to get opera you need to add 'deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main' to the list (without quotes)01:27
cpk1paul__: did you do what i said about adding multiverse to that one line?01:27
hellcattravso literaly add it to the end?01:27
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paul__the word multiverse?01:27
Adydashellcattrav: you need to remove the #####S from the website link lines01:28
Adydasfor eg01:28
Adydas## team.01:28
Adydas# deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe01:28
Adydas# deb-src http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe01:28
paul__this is what i have ! deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse01:28
hellcattravshit this makes no sense01:28
paul__ur tellin moi01:28
Adydashellcattrav: del the # from the start so it says01:28
cpk1paul__: good save it and then pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' so we can double check01:28
felix_does anyone know a software to convert .daa to .iso or any other format k3b can handle?01:28
Adydasdeb http://xx.archvice.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe01:28
cpk1!repos | hellcattrav01:28
paul__i just click save yes01:28
ubotuhellcattrav: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:28
paul__not save as or nuttin01:28
cpk1just click save01:29
hellcattravi see deb http:///us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/edgy universe...do i take out the # sign before that?01:29
Adydasthen save it01:29
Adydasand run01:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:29
Adydassudo apt-get update01:29
Adydasok hellcattrav01:29
paul__change line 16 yer?01:30
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cpk1paul__: good now do 'sudo aptitude update'01:30
Adydaspaul__: looks good dude01:30
Adydasnow .. do what cpk1 said :p01:30
paul__i am rlly trying lol01:30
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paul__asking for poassword01:31
Adydassudo aptitude update still looks the same as apt-get update01:31
paul__im presuming my password?01:31
Adydasinsert your password then :p01:31
hellcattravwait can i just paste his into mine?01:31
Adydashellcattrav: if your from the US01:31
paul__ok done that m801:31
hellcattravwould that not work?01:31
hellcattravi am01:31
paul__its done loads of things now01:31
Adydasi dont see why not as long as your using drapper and not edgy01:31
cpk1Adydas: that part is the same, there are things that aptitude does that are far superior to apt-get01:31
hellcattravnever mind01:32
Adydaspaul__:  look like this?01:32
paul__says done adydas01:32
AdydasHit http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security Release01:32
AdydasIgn http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Translation-en_US01:32
Sannehellcattrav: but you still won't get Opera with this sources.list...01:32
cpk1paul__: now do 'sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs'01:32
cpk1!repos | hellcattrav01:32
ubotuhellcattrav: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:32
hellcattravoh bugger01:32
hellcattravthis is shite01:32
Adydaspaul__: did you do it?01:33
Adydaswhat happend?01:33
hellcattravi give up01:33
paul__do i want to continue it says01:33
cpk1!repos | hellcattrav01:33
Adydasand then enter01:33
Sannehellcattrav: did you add the line for the commercial repository to your sources.list?01:33
hellcattravill just download it from the opera site01:33
cpk1!repos | hellcattrav01:33
ubotuhellcattrav: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:33
paul__says fetched01:33
hellcattravi stuck it at the end yes01:33
paul__reading database01:33
Adydaspaul__: then well done, its done it :p01:33
paul__its doing alot :)01:33
Adydasit downloaded, and installed the codecs for you to play mp3s01:33
cpk1hellcattrav: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu explains how to add the repo you need for opera01:33
Sannehellcattrav: paste your sources list to the pastebin, please01:33
paul__so i can play mp3 now?01:33
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hellcattravso it says that canonical bit at teh very bottem01:34
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Adydaspaul__: you sure can :p01:34
cpk1paul__: we hope01:34
paul__do i quit konsole now#01:34
Adydasyou can01:34
Adydasthen run amarok01:34
Adydasand it should play a sample mp301:34
Adydasi belive.. Or just load your own mp301:34
paul__cant hear nuttion :S01:35
Adydasany errors?01:35
paul__sounds on!01:35
Adydasit works01:35
Adydasi suggest you check your sounds turned on01:35
Adydasheadphones or speakrs plugged in correcly etc01:35
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Adydasunless ur sound cards not iunsalled01:35
paul__oh dear01:36
apallo_!ubotu supported laptops01:36
paul__it mihjgt be that haha01:36
apallo_!ubotu laptops01:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about laptops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:36
cpk1that is incredibly improbable01:36
jsubl2!ubotu laptop01:36
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org01:36
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paul__how install soundcard?01:36
Adydasquite possibly by using an older version to01:36
paul__it is instralled cos i can head the ubuntu sounds01:36
cpk1paul__: go to the kmenu then system settings then sound system and click test sound01:36
paul__is it cos im trying run it from the cd?01:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:37
Adydasbut i doubt it01:37
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cpk1paul__: you are doing all this off the livecd?01:37
paul__no its installed on my pc01:37
Adydaspaul__: move or copy the mp3s to your PC01:37
Adydasjust move or copy 1 song to ttest01:37
paul__ive ditched windows completely!01:37
paul__woo its working playing a saxophone lol01:38
paul__that was a sample on there tho01:38
hellcattravhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6786/  my sources.list01:38
Sannehellcattrav: looking (please type my name so my chat client notifies me)01:39
paul__how do i open the cd?01:39
paul__to move a file01:39
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cpk1paul__: normally it makes an icon on your desktop01:40
paul__it did but hasnt now lol01:40
Adydasthen its not going01:40
Adydasre insert the cd01:40
Sannehellcattrav: that commercial line looks fine, but why on earth do you have multitide entries lines 33 to 40?01:40
Adydasinto the cdrom by opening and closeing it01:40
paul__done that01:40
hellcattravi don't know anyting01:40
Adydasis it back?01:40
paul__open in new window it says01:40
paul__or do nothing?01:40
hellcattravhence my repetitive questions\01:40
Adydasgo to new windows paul__01:40
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Sannehellcattrav: please type my name when you talk to me. You can type Sa<tab> to use tab completion01:41
paul__oh its done it :D01:41
AdydasSanne:  might be easyer to pastebin back what it should be for him..01:41
Adydasi want to but due to java cant01:41
paul__now to test01:41
hellcattravSanne: lines 33-40 weas already there01:41
paul__so how do i copy from the cd adydas?01:41
paul__to the pc to test01:41
Sannehellcattrav: I would remove 34 to 40, so you have only one of those lines.01:41
cpk1paul__: drag and drop01:41
Adydasdrag and drop like windows01:42
paul__onto the desktop?01:42
hellcattravSanne: ok01:42
Adydaswhy not01:42
apallo_!ubotu ati01:42
Adydasto start and test01:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:42
cpk1paul__: wherever the hell you want them01:42
paul__lol ok01:42
paul__its worked01:42
Sannehellcattrav: and take out the leading space from line 2601:42
paul__thankyou for your  help adydas01:42
Adydasnow play it with amarok01:42
paul__yes its playuing01:42
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paul__thanks mate adydas :)01:43
Adydashmm lunch time me thinks..01:43
hellcattravwhat about 3101:43
paul__lunch time?01:43
paul__its 12:45 am here01:43
Adydaspaul__: dont forget to thank cpk101:43
Adydasits 13:00 here01:43
paul__thanks cpk1 lol01:43
AdydasWednesday lunchtime01:43
paul__dude where u from01:43
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paul__adydas where form?01:43
Sannehellcattrav: wlet's leave it for now, we want to get Opera first. When you're done editing, please save amd pastebin again, just to be sure.01:44
hellcattravSanne: taking out leading space in line 26 aye aye01:44
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Adydaspaul__: http://www.newzealand.com/travel01:44
FabioBrHi, i'm having a problem with my tv tuner card, it doesn't appears on dmesg or lspci command. Kernel is recognize it or i have to recompile kernel with the correct modules???01:44
paul__no waqys im from UK01:44
paul__uk people r idiots like me lol01:44
Adydasim UK born01:44
paul__all i have to say from this experience is fuck bill gates!01:44
AdydasMidlands, Solihull01:44
paul__im from suffolk01:44
apallo_is there a flgrfx (sp?) driver for ati-mobility 7500?01:44
paul__east anglia01:44
hellcattravsanne: which of line 33-40 odd was i to take out?01:45
Sannehellcattrav: 33 to 40 are all the same, so delete all but one of them.01:45
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paul__cya guys thanks for help tonight01:46
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paul__seeya ADYDAS AND CPK01:46
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BluesKajapallo_, yup fglrx : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-d8c6fd05bce340dfc3ad483abf0e18997868540b01:46
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istill316having trouble installing flash for firefox. any suggestions?01:48
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Adydasistill316: have you got the flash gunzip?01:48
hellcattravSanne: here is v3 of my sources list:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6788/01:48
istill316I believe so...01:48
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cpk1istill316: you running amd64 or just regular 32bit?01:49
cpk1istill316: you can get flash using APT01:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:50
Sannehellcattrav: 32 and 33 are still double, and line 26 still has a leading space, but let's just try to get opera first. Please type: sudo apt-get update01:50
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash01:50
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istill316I'm using feisty01:50
hellcattravwill you like me to save my soucres list?01:50
istill316incidentally, about:plugins claims that it is installed01:51
Sannehellcattrav: yes, first it has to be saved.01:51
cpk1istill316: you probably just need to enable multiverse and univers01:51
hellcattravsorry bout caps01:51
cpk1istill316: then it probably s?01:51
istill316and it never asks me to install it anymore: it just doesn't work01:51
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istill316I tried installing via Adobe's install method, but that didn't work at all.01:52
hellcattravcan i use aptitude, or must i use apt-get?01:52
istill316then installing via adept got me to where I am now01:52
hellcattravSanne: read somewhere that Aptitude is better?01:52
Sannehellcattrav: you can use aptitude. I didn't use it because I don't know it, but you may, if you want.01:52
cpk1aptitude can do alot more technical things01:52
AdydasSanne: same as me eh..01:53
Sannehellcattrav: if something goes wrong with it, I'm sure cpk1 will help ;)01:53
SanneAdydas: heh :)01:53
AdydasTo long in the tooth to start with somthign new01:53
hellcattravill just use apt-get01:53
cpk1i used to only use apt-get but aptitude can do tons of cool things01:53
cpk1and there isnt really any excuse not to use aptitude since the commands are the same01:54
hellcattravOk cpk1: how do i use aptitude?01:54
Adydasits not the same01:54
hellcattravif i want to run what sanne just told me to?01:54
Adydasits longer :p01:54
Sannecpk1: the current step is update the package list01:54
cpk1sudo aptitude update01:54
graftone letter?01:54
graftare you one of those people who says 'u' and '4'?01:55
cpk1actually with apt-get you need to type apt-g with aptitude you only need to type apti01:55
Adydasme ?01:55
Adydasyou assume i use tab01:55
graftyou're complaining about aptitude being longer, and yet you don't use tab01:55
hellcattravcpkl: so what do do?01:55
Adydasagain.. somthing i should do for using apt i do for other stuff and irc..01:55
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cpk1hellcattrav: sudo aptitude update and then sudo aptitude install nameofpackage01:56
ubotusquid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1.2 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1544 kB01:56
hellcattravSanne: im doing sudo aptitude update right now01:56
Sannehellcattrav: ok01:57
hellcattravwhole lot of stuff came up01:57
hellcattravnot sure  what...01:57
Adydasthe word error in there?01:57
Sannehellcattrav: it tells you that it fetches the package lists from all those ubuntu repositories you have in your sources.list01:57
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Sannehellcattrav: if there are no errors, it should be fine. Try: sudo aptitide install opera01:58
hellcattravit said that i have duplicate soucres...here ill just pastebin this bit...01:58
Sannehellcattrav: ah ok01:58
hellcattravi don't see errors01:58
hellcattravjust a sec01:58
Sannehellcattrav: I bet it's because of the still present dupes of lines 32 and 3301:59
hellcattravwant a second opinion :)01:59
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Boris_I have some questions about Ubuntu01:59
Boris_I am a newbie to it02:00
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AdydasAsk away then02:00
saundershi all02:00
Boris_where do I find more apps for it except the add\remove section????02:00
saundersyo adydas its paul again lol02:00
Adydasi figured as much.. :P02:00
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saunderswhat tprogram can i use for downloading mp3s etc?02:00
saundersopen file source sharing?02:00
Adydassaunders: there it a torrent program with kde02:01
Sannehellcattrav: yup, I think it's what I suspected. So remove one of the dupe lines.02:01
saundersyer i shud just use that the adydas? byu the way its paul02:01
saundersthe amarok works gr8 lol02:01
Adydasyeah i use that02:01
hellcattravremoving now02:01
saunderswud i use it in the same way as windows?02:01
hellcattravhow do i open kate again?02:01
saundersgot to torrentz.com02:01
saundersor sumwhere02:01
Boris_will the RIAA\MPAA catch me if I use torrents?02:01
saundersand save em then open them in bittorrent02:02
AdydasBoris_: what do you mean find appz?02:02
Sannehellcattrav: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list02:02
Boris_for example, I saw cpu graphs on the side of the screen in screenshots02:02
Adydasah Boris_ you need superkaraba02:02
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org02:02
saundersadydas do i need any form of spyware programs to keep me safe etc?02:02
hellcattravSanne: whats kdesu?02:03
Boris_ok, I'll try it02:03
saundersor dont u get all that on liiiinux stuff02:03
saundersor kubuntu soz02:03
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo02:03
Adydassaunders: i think its only windows that suffers from that stuff02:03
Boris_problem is, I'm a complete noob02:03
saundersdo u use anything ?02:03
Sannehellcattrav: it's the preferred way to run gui applications with sudo eights.02:03
AdydasBoris_: i think you can apt-get install it and then just add what you want via the program02:03
saunderssurely if ya going onto a site which u know has spyware wud still put spyware on ya pc02:03
graftwoah... utf16 looks... different from utf802:04
saundersas an example that was02:04
Boris_so I just goto the website, and it will automatically install?02:04
Boris_I dont need sudo or sh scripts?02:04
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hellcattravsanne: hopefully this cleared the dupes?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6794/02:04
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grafthaha... spyware on linux02:04
graftsaunders: welcome to the real world02:04
graftdon't worry about that stuff02:04
saundersmate i dont know do i02:04
AdydasBoris_: sudo apt-get install superkaramba02:05
graftno viruses, no spyware02:05
saunderspeople have top start sumwhere02:05
saundersso online banking no worries getting fucked over?02:05
Sannehellcattrav: just leave kate and the file open, you won't need to close it, so you can edit it again if need be.02:05
graftwell... you'll still get spam02:05
Adydassaunders: your fine :P02:05
saunderseven if i visit same site graft?02:05
hellcattravi thouht i had to close it02:05
graftso... if you get spam e-mail with bad links in it and you follow that...02:05
saundersim learning my way around guys02:05
hellcattravme too...sorry if ive been such a pest today02:06
graftsaunders: no one is going to sniff your bank password, if that's what you mean02:06
saunderswont they do that on unbuntu02:06
saundersin other wordxs02:06
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Sannehellcattrav: you only have to close any gui package managers like adept or synaptic if you want to use aptitude from the command line. But you can leave the sources.list loaded in kate (at least I think so, we'll see soon)02:06
AdydasBoris_: is this what your talking about, if so i have the program open showing the new stuff button and how easy to install things it is.02:06
hellcattravSanne: ahh hah ok02:06
hellcattravso what next02:07
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Sannehellcattrav: please take out the space from the beginning of line 26 (finally!!)02:07
hellcattravSanne: I will save my soucres list, but still try to....lok02:07
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saunderswhat do i use to stream things?02:07
AdydasBoris_: so do as my other message said, sudo apt-get install superkaramba02:07
saundersi.e porn lol?02:07
Adydasand your away02:07
Adydassaunders: vlc02:08
saunderscheers man02:08
Sannehellcattrav: after that, dave (don't close) and try again: sudo aptitude update02:08
graftsaunders: vlc or mplayer are both good streaming media players02:08
Adydassaunders: sudo apt-get install vlc02:08
graftpersonally i prefer mplayer02:08
Sannehellcattrav: s/dave/save02:08
hellcattravtrying sudo...02:08
grafthaven't found anything that it can't do02:08
Adydasgraft: same.. but i think vlcs easyer02:08
Sannehellcattrav: you need to open another konsole02:08
saunderssoz where download VLC02:08
saundershow get to that thing again02:08
hellcattravSanne: i do?02:09
Sannehellcattrav: yes, the other one is occupied with kate02:09
Adydassaunders: sudo apt-get install mplayer xmms-xmmplayer vlc02:09
hellcattravactually it jsut says kate02:09
Adydasthat will install both vlc AND mplayer02:09
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hellcattravim typing the commnds into something that says username@my laptop name02:09
Sannehellcattrav: just open a now konsole and do sudo aptitude update02:09
saunderswhen u give me all this code adydas02:10
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saundersive been typing it in the run command02:10
saunderslike just adept02:10
saundersworks in same manner i guess02:10
apallo_!ubotu xvid02:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:10
Adydasit is the same i belive02:10
Adydasjust adept is a graphical version of apt-get02:10
saundersso apt-get is same as =adept?02:10
hellcattravSanne: its done02:10
graftsaunders: you mean the alt-f2 runner thingy?02:10
Sannesaunders: better use konsole so you will get errors printed out02:10
Adydasyes its jsut a gui(graphical) versoin02:10
Sannehellcattrav: what did it say?02:10
saundersok m802:11
hellcattravwant me to pastebin all of it?02:11
Adydassaunders: so sudo apt-get install mplayer xmms-xmmplayer vlc02:11
Sannehellcattrav: if you can02:11
Adydasand youll be gravey02:11
hellcattravill try02:11
saundersthanks adydas02:11
saundersim getting into this now02:11
saundersmore fun dan windows!02:12
AdydasOMG YAY JED!!!02:12
Adydassaunders: if you want to find things to install try apt-cache search whatyoursearchingfor02:12
hellcattravyeah i like this better then windows too02:12
saunderssand use that in konsole?02:12
saundersso for instance apt-cache search vlc02:13
hellcattravSanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6797/02:13
Adydasdo it saunders02:13
Adydassee what it says02:13
saundersmate im learning all thanks to you!02:13
Adydasit will display all programs you can install that relate to your serach02:13
Adydasyou can use it to find things you want not just spacific programs02:13
saundersyay man time for a fucking huge wank cheers lads cya!02:14
Adydasie apt-cache search media player02:14
cpk1another thing cool about aptitude is if you try to install a package that doesnt exist it can sometimes tell you the package that you were trying to get02:14
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Adydascpk1: admitadly that could be handy02:14
Sannehellcattrav: that looks healthy! Good job! Now tra: sudo aptitude install opera02:14
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saundersi done it adydas02:15
saundersgot list of stuff02:15
hellcattravok its working..02:15
hellcattrav4%]  :)02:15
Sannehellcattrav: haha02:15
Adydassaunders: if you want to install something from the list do so with apt-get install packagename02:15
saundersso for instance02:15
saundersapt-cache search mozilla02:16
saundersapt-get install mozilla02:16
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saundersxcorrect ady?02:16
Adydasyes and no, when you search it will output the full packages02:16
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saundersshit loadsa files uinder mozilla!02:17
hellcattravcan i get rid of the parts of kubuntu(the kde bits) that i don't want, but keep the stuff f i do...and does GNOME have any thing like kontact?02:17
graft!language | saunders02:17
ubotusaunders: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:17
cpk1hellcattrav: the gome equivalent of kontact is evolution02:17
Adydassaunders: yeah theres a few packages, so apt-get install mozilla will work02:17
hellcattravcpk1: i thought evolution was an email client, no?02:17
Adydasbut if you want a ftp bookmark mozliia program youd install the package mozilla-bookmarksftp - Mozilla Firefox extension to synchronize bookmarks as an eg02:17
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saunderssoz for swearing!02:18
Adydashellcattrav: kmail02:18
cpk1hellcattrav: kontact is an email client too isnt? =)02:18
saundersis kubuntu internet faster because the internet can be open02:19
saundersand it aint firewalled etc etc02:19
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hellcattravcpk1: is it?  i just use the calander bit...(at least i tired too, but im also trying to switch from kde to GNOME,so what do i know?02:19
cpk1and if you are connected to a router you are probably going through a firewall still02:19
saundersy it faster then02:19
saundersseems to be on downloads02:19
Wolfeyo necesito ayuda02:20
Adydasit might work somewhat faster as a result of how linux uses the computers resources over windows however02:20
Sannehellcattrav: you can try to uninstall stuff. Sometimes more will get removed because packages depend on each other. aptitude may remove more than apt-get, I don't know.02:20
cpk1hellcattrav: iirc evolution is a contact suite just like kontact02:20
hellcattravSanne: how do i know if its done?02:20
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hellcattravSanne: yeah apptitude does remove more02:20
Sannehellcattrav: you should get back your prompt (username@computername$)02:20
Sannehellcattrav: what does it say now?02:21
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hellcattravSanne: setting up opera (9.10-20061214.6ubuntu2)....02:21
hellcattravSanne: that is the last line i see02:21
Sannehellcattrav: then it has finished downloading and is now installing02:22
Adydascpk1: Dont supposed youd know if i can run a seperate xorg.conf for differnt users would you?02:22
Wolfesomeone help please02:22
Wolfei was just here with the error 'uknown interuption or fault' and someone suggested the alt cd02:22
AdydasWolfe:  help what?02:22
Wolfei used the alt cd, but i get the same error, and it only shows installation methods02:22
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hellcattravso i need to wait for some sort of completeion message?02:23
Adydasi think its done02:23
Adydastry typing opera hellcattrav02:23
Adydasor checking in the list under internet for opera02:23
hellcattravSanne: can i get the knotes on start up?02:23
Wolfeany idea Adydas?02:24
Sannehellcattrav: it shouldn't take long, it just unpacks the files, copies them to their locations, and maybe adds some config files.02:24
hellcattravSanne: it appears02:24
Sannehellcattrav: what appears?02:24
hellcattravim going to try opera...wish me luck folks....02:24
Adydasit should load with some licence stuff02:24
Sannehellcattrav: good luck :)02:24
manchickenWhy would you try opera?02:24
Adydasbeacuse hes had no luck else where02:25
Wolfeso no body knows of a way to help me02:25
hellcattravbecause voice is cool adn im a lazy bastard :)02:25
AdydasWolfe: what question?02:25
Wolfei was just here with the error 'uknown interuption or fault' and someone suggested the alt cd02:25
Wolfei used the alt cd, but i get the same error, and it only shows installation methods02:25
Sannehellcattrav: does opera start?02:25
AdydasSanne: i hope it does02:25
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Adydaswhat error, what cd?02:26
hellcattravSanne:  we have lift off02:26
Wolfethe image02:26
Sannehellcattrav: hahaaa02:26
Wolfeand unknown interuption or fault at EIP02:26
saunderscan i use Kontact to recive and send hotmail?02:26
Wolfefollowed by numbers and letters02:26
AdydasBelive so02:26
hellcattravSanne: now how do i remove firefox and all the other errata that i don't want?02:26
Adydassaunders: try kmail to i thnk its good02:26
graftWolfe: try #ubuntu, there's probably more people there who know about how the kernel is built02:26
Sannehellcattrav: depends on how you installed firefox02:26
Adydashellcattrav: sudo apt-get remove firefox02:26
Wolfegraft... can you link me to the bug thing02:26
Wolfeagain, i lost the link02:27
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saunderscasn i use it to get hotmail emails anyone?02:27
hellcattravAdydas: thanks02:27
cpk1hellcattrav: iirc if you want gnome then you should keep firefox installed02:27
Malay_LinuxAssalamualaikum w.b.t.02:27
Malay_LinuxGood morning02:27
Adydashellcattrav: wait, sorry as said it depends if you used apt0get to install or not02:27
hellcattravcpk1: but its not working...hence why i wanted a different broser02:27
Malay_LinuxI am using Kubuntu Linux 6.10 Edgy Eft\02:27
hellcattravi can't remember02:27
cpk1hellcattrav: whats wrong with it?02:27
hellcattravit crashes02:27
Adydassaunders: yes, but also check out kamil02:28
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hellcattravon viewing any/most webpages02:28
saundershow do i set up to do with hotmail on kontact adydas?02:28
cpk1hellcattrav: you installed it with apt?02:28
saundersi will check that later m802:28
Adydasi dont know, i dont use it.. I use kamil02:28
Adydaskmail dammit!!02:28
saunderswith kmail u can then?02:28
Adydasi havent set it up but yes..02:28
cpk1kontact is kmail02:28
cpk1if hotmail allows it then you can02:29
hellcattravcpk1: did you not see my posts lamenting my shitty use of firefox so far..and im not sure i think i might have, just done so much in the last couple of days that i don't remember what i installed what with this or that...02:29
AdydasOr maybe not..02:29
saundersafter apt cache.. what then to install adydas?02:29
Adydasits installed to kubuntu by default02:29
Adydastry running kmail first02:30
saundersoh lol02:30
saunderskmail is what im on then lol02:30
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saunderssays mail-kontact up top of its window toolbar02:30
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cpk1thats kmail02:31
saundersthats kmail then cpk?02:31
saundershow set up with hotmail?02:31
saundersi tryed earlier with no sucess lol02:31
Adydashotmail may not allow use of it02:31
sampandoes hotmail allow pop connections?  i thought it didn't -- or at least it didn't use to allow them.02:31
saundersnot sure?02:31
Adydaswindows would allow it via outlook express02:31
saundersi wanna find out tho!02:31
Adydasbecause its both microsoft :p02:31
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sampanlol adydas ... probably ... anyone wanna try running outlook express with wine?  *SNORT*02:32
cpk1you would have to figure out the pop stuff from hotmails faq's or something02:32
istill316"Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."02:32
saundershmm but i use msn messenger u see02:32
saundersobviously kopete02:32
Adydasthats fine02:32
hellcattravcpk1? could i uninstall it with aptitude then?02:32
apallo_!ubotu xvid02:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:32
Adydassampan: yeah, arse to that..02:33
Adydasistill316: somthing else is using apt02:33
Jucato!adeptfix | istill31602:33
ubotuistill316: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:33
cpk1hellcattrav: of course but like i said i think there are some gnome apps that use it for some dependencies, aptitude will tell you what its doing before it acts though02:33
istill316it does it immediately after starting02:33
Adydasthen as above02:33
Adydassaunders: as highlighted you could try and use wine02:33
hellcattravill try that02:34
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AdydasBut i doubt youd want to..02:34
hellcattravwhats the remove command?02:34
hellcattravis it -get?02:34
Adydasapt-get remove packagename02:35
Jucatoor Adept -> right-click -> Request Remove....02:35
Boris_I have a question, I downloaded the superkaramba tar file, where do I extract it?02:35
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cpk1aptitude removve02:36
hellcattravwhats the aptitude verision?02:36
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ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression02:36
Boris_where should I extract the file to?02:36
Boris_I need the linux equivelent of "Program Files"02:37
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istill316works! thanks!02:37
AdydasBoris_:  use apt02:37
piro_there isnt one02:37
cpk1Boris_: you shouldnt have to untar it to install it for superkaramba usually02:37
graftBoris_: superkaramba is in the repository02:37
AdydasBoris_: sudo apt-get install superkaramba02:37
graft!info superkaramba02:37
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB02:37
piro_just extract to your home directory02:37
graftalthough, frankly, superkaramba sucks02:37
graftsince no one has made any widgets worth a damn02:37
Adydaswhats better02:38
soulridersuperkaramba is good, but there not any really good widgets02:38
Boris_then what should I use? I need graphs and transparent windows02:38
hellcattravcpk1:  it said unable to lock administration directory( /var/lib/dpkg) are you root?02:38
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Adydashellcattrav: use sudo02:38
cpk1hellcattrav: obviously you need sudo just like with apt-get02:38
hellcattravi get it02:38
graftBoris_: what sort of graphs?02:38
hellcattravsorry *bangs head on desk*02:38
Boris_cpu load, swap, etc.02:38
graftand transparent windows is more like the kind of thing you'd get with beryl02:39
Adydaskubuntu monitor Boris_02:39
cpk1superkaramba does fine with that02:39
Boris_so I should look for "kubuntu monitor" on the website?02:39
cpk1and you can edit the widgets to suit your taste02:39
hellcattravit said score is -129? whats that mean?02:39
Adydasuse superkaramab its self Boris_02:39
soulriderBoris_: you could try conky02:39
ubotuconky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB02:39
Boris_what sys. specs do I need to run these apps?02:40
AdydasBoris_:  Look here02:40
graftBoris_: don't worry about that, most linux apps are very light-weight02:40
Adydasis that kinda what your after?02:40
Wolfehey! #ubuntu was very helpful02:40
Boris_I just installed ubuntu onto my old comp. 700MHz 256MB RAM02:40
chrissgeehello, I'm a newb in need of a little wireless help02:41
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AdydasBoris_: if it is, install superkaramba and then use it via " get new stuff "02:41
Adydasand it loads a window you can select what you want02:41
Sannenice, Adydas. Pretty warm cpu, is this your idle temp?02:42
Adydas51 degrees?02:42
Adydassorry 54?02:42
Wolfegraft: thanks02:42
SanneAdydas: oh, it's GPU02:42
Adydasthats the CPU i belive..02:42
AdydasG sorry02:42
Adydasits a bit of a warm day02:43
Adydasas you can see, but its even warmer trapped in my room02:43
hellcattravcpk1: it says score -129 is that bad?02:43
SanneAdydas: I can't see the CPU temp02:43
AdydasSanne: its not displayed02:43
SanneAdydas: ah, that's why ;)02:43
Adydasim not aware of any cpu temp widgets02:44
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SanneAdydas: I'm using a panel applet for temps02:45
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cpk1hellcattrav: read what it says its going to do, if thats ok with you then go ahead02:45
cpk1i cant make decisions for you on how to run your machine02:45
urantherwhat's the package name for pygtkmoz?02:45
Sanneuranther: most likely python-something. pyqt for example is python-qt302:46
AdydasHow do you know if your hard drive supports temp out put?02:46
graftWolfe: what happened?02:46
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urantherthe sf.net page for pygtkmoz says it's under gnome-python-extras02:47
urantherbut that's also not there02:47
SanneAdydas: I tried with hddtemp02:47
urantheroh ok python-gnome2-extras02:47
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AdydasSanne: dam you02:49
SanneAdydas: oh?02:49
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Adydasyouve made me try and find something now02:49
cpk1kstatus shows cpu temp i thik02:49
SanneAdydas: bad news?02:50
cpk1my widget shows cpu temp but i've edited it a little02:50
hellcattravcpk1: seems alright to me, i just didn't know if -129 was bad02:50
Boris_ok, so I have the superkaramba package in /desktop02:50
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Adydasno kstatus02:50
AdydasBoris_: Did you do sudo apt-get install superkaramba02:51
Boris_I cd'ed to it in command prompt02:51
Boris_I did sudo apt-get install superkaramba-0.39.tar.gz02:51
Boris_said it could not find package02:51
Adydasdo as i said here02:51
Admiral_ChicagoBoris_: no, that's not how you instal things02:51
Boris_howto install?02:52
Adydassudo apt-get install superkaramba02:52
Admiral_ChicagoBoris_: ^^ what Adydas  saih02:52
Adydasjust type the above, as it is.. ignoreing what ever youve downloaded from where ever02:52
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hellcattravok, off to see if house is on the telly02:52
AdydasHouse annoys me02:52
graftBoris_: that installs from ubuntu's internet repository of software, which is the normal place to get stuff... you can search it with apt-cache search <thing you're interested in>02:52
SanneBoris_: when you have a moment, you might want to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories02:52
Boris_ok, I did it, but got error:02:53
AdydasBoris_: did you do 'sudo apt-get install superkaramba'02:53
Adydasok now we can help02:53
Adydaswhats the error02:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:53
Boris_could not open lock file var lib dpkg lock02:53
Adydasuse that website to show us.02:53
Boris_Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)02:53
Boris_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?02:53
Adydasdid u type sudo at the start?02:53
JucatoBoris_: if Adept is still open, please close it before using apt-get02:53
AdydasJucato: lack of sudo02:54
JucatoBoris_: also, sudo02:54
Jucatoyeah saw that :)02:54
Adydassudo apt-get install superkaramba02:54
Boris_its says it could not find package02:54
vaswhuts Bash delete command02:54
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ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org02:55
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Adydasvas: rm02:55
Adydasrm -rf filename or folder02:55
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:55
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Boris_it says this: E: Couldn't find package superkaramba02:56
KaoticEvildoes anyone have a ZyXel AG-225H USB wireless adapter?02:56
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AdydasBoris_: try02:56
Adydassudo apt-get install superkaramba02:56
Adydasto confirm02:56
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Boris_says same error message02:57
Boris_could not find package02:57
Jucato!info superkaramba02:57
ubotusuperkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 515 kB, installed size 1408 kB02:57
vascan someone give me an example of how to delete a folder from Bash02:57
Jucatois the universe repository enabled?02:57
Adydasas above02:57
vasI hae bash in the folder containing the folder I want to delete02:57
Adydasrm -rf foldername02:57
Jucatovas: rm -rf folder/02:57
vasohh -rf02:58
Adydasrm filename works02:58
vasthnx srry to be a pain02:58
Adydasrm -rf for folders02:58
Jucatovas: go out of the folder, then rm -rf filename02:58
vasAdydas: oooh ok i got it now02:58
cpk1-rf is for super nukage btw02:58
AdydasBoris_: you need to edit some files02:58
Adydastotaly do not do just rm -rf as root ever02:58
Adydasunless u need the /02:59
Adydaseither way you risk wipeing everything02:59
vasya that'd prob cause some damage...02:59
Adydasdel *.* styles02:59
AdydasBoris_: Fancy it then?02:59
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Jucatovas: remember that what you delete in the command line is normally irrecoverable03:00
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vasya I had to do it that way because it was read only03:00
Adydaswhy not make it write?03:00
vasthat was going to be my next question..03:00
vashow do I change the privelages on a folder03:00
Adydaschmod 777 filename03:00
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cpk1lol dont do 77703:01
Adydaschmod 777 folder03:01
Jnlmn88naciao,qlk  mi da una mano??03:01
Boris_what files?03:01
Adydasim so shocking03:01
AdydasBoris_: sources.list03:01
vaswait when I install Xampp the HTDOCS is restricted03:01
Adydasfor apt-get03:01
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vasI can't put files in or anything03:01
vaseven with xampp turned off03:01
Jucato!it | Jnlmn88na03:01
ubotuJnlmn88na: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:01
Adydasi get confuzzled with the hole  thing+ax03:01
Boris_I'm a total linux noob, how do I do that?03:01
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Adydasok close everything03:02
Adydaslets start a fresh03:02
Adydasopen a terminal window / konsole window03:02
hellcattravSanne: how can i make opera my default browser, so it doesn't go to firefox?03:02
Adydasthey use the command03:02
Adydassudo kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:02
Adydasthey = then03:02
JucatoAdydas: sudo kdesu?03:02
Jucatohellcattrav: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser03:03
Sannehellcattrav: I don't know because I never did that, but I guess somewhere in kubuntu system settings? Dies anybody know?03:03
Adydaserr my bad03:03
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vaswait should I change HTDOCS privelages03:03
vasthey are given to user: nobody group: root03:03
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Boris_says sudo: kdesu: command not found03:04
Adydasyeah my bad03:04
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.03:04
JucatoBoris_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:05
mikes1Is there an upgraded 2.6.20 kernel release to fix the rebooting problem with some smp pentiums03:05
Sannegoing to bed now, by all03:05
AdydasBoris_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:05
hellcattravsanne: would it make a difference if i use gnome?03:05
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Boris_error: bash: kdesu: command not found03:06
chrissgeewhat is the correct way to ask someone for help?03:06
Sannehellcattrav: Jucato gave the solution to default broswer03:06
cpk1gnome defaults to firefox so even in gnome you would need to figure out how to make opera your default03:06
AdydasBoris_:  are you using kubuntu?03:06
Sannehellcattrav: I don't even less about gnome03:06
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hellcattravhey everyhting you;ve done worked so far03:06
Boris_I'm using Ubuntu, whats the difference?03:07
Adydasits gnome based03:07
Adydasknot kde based03:07
Sannehellcattrav: great! :)03:07
Adydashence why kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list isnt working03:07
Malay_LinuxAssalamualaikum w.b.t.03:07
Malay_LinuxGood morning03:07
Malay_LinuxI am using Kubuntu Linux 6.10 Edgy Eft\03:07
AdydasNot you03:07
Sannehellcattrav: but I'm off now, have fun, good luck, bye for now03:07
Boris_sorry, I just installed Linux03:07
AdydasBoris_: thats cool03:07
Boris_I'm never going back to m$03:08
AdydasBoris_: join #ubuntu03:08
Adydasthey should be able to help a tad more03:08
mikes1there a fix for this/03:08
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE03:08
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.03:09
piro_can one downgrade firefox versions in apt?03:09
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AdydasIs beryl worth that hassel?03:11
Malay_LinuxHi all03:12
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Adydaschrissgee: you got kubuntu or ubunut03:16
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Admiral_ChicagoAdydas: no its not imho03:17
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MamanNhalo everyone, pls help how to open lotus 123 .wk1 in ubuntu what app. needed03:17
AdydasAdmiral_Chicago: Didnt think so..03:18
Adydastrying to find a new somthing to do03:18
Adydasso much talk it seems all the rage03:18
MamanNhalo everyone, pls help how to open lotus 123 .wk1 in ubuntu what app. needed?03:18
kgxholy crap...lotus is still exists :O03:19
kgxMamanN: try open office spreadsheet03:19
MamanNkgx: i need to save it natively for my old application03:19
Adydasisnt lotus like WICKED old03:19
Admiral_ChicagoAdydas: its worth a look, but on a testing partition03:20
kgxyeah retro..i remember how they used to advertise it as being wysiwyg :>03:20
MamanNI migrate my office to ubuntu,03:20
AdydasAdmiral_Chicago: pass then..03:20
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shiv_how do I know which version of kubuntu I am running03:21
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Admiral_Chicagoshiv_: cat /proc/lsb_release iirc03:21
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MamanNwe need to use the lotus macro so i cant migrate easily, i dont want waste my time on convert bussiness application03:22
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:22
Admiral_Chicagono that's not it03:22
shiv_Admiral_Chicago, it says no such file or directory03:22
Chappie1776Hello all,  I have a Gigabyte GA-M55SLI-S4 mobo, 2GB ram, (2) 80 GB SATA drives.  Booted Kubuntu Live and ran install.  Install completed and upon reboot Grub runs and I get the first Kubuntu but the little bar does not move.  After a minute or so I get a shell screen.  I am running two Geforce 7300s in SLI mode.  Any Ideas why I cannot boot?03:22
Adydaswhat can you see03:23
Admiral_Chicagoshiv_: sorry that's not it, but I have to run03:23
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Adydastext like dos Chappie1776?03:23
Chappie1776Yes I see text.  It is some basic shell.  Not bash.03:23
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MamanNChapie:then go to ctrl+f103:24
MamanNChapie:then go to ctrl+ALt+f103:24
AdydasWhat is X aint working?03:24
MamanNset ur xserver-xorg03:24
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Malay_LinuxI am using Kopete 0.11.1 (using KDE 3.5.2) at Kubuntu Linux 6.10 Edgy Eft03:24
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Adydasmaybe his graphics cards not supported / working etc03:25
Admiral_ChicagoChappie1776: is it called blackbox?03:25
MamanNOk All, thanks and good bye03:26
Chappie1776I see busybox v1.1.3 ..... then I see /bin/sh: can't access tty job control turned off  then next line (initramfs)03:26
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Chappie1776says it is built in shell ASH03:26
Admiral_ChicagoChappie1776: ya the install failed somewhere...03:27
Admiral_Chicagohad that happen to one install i did, not sure how to fix it03:27
Chappie1776Ok I will try to disconnect the second SATA drive and remove the second card and try again.03:28
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Chappie1776Admiral does it seem from this message that the machine knows where its files are?03:28
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Chappie1776I mean is GRUB pointing to right hard drive partitions.03:29
Adydazchrissgee: you there?03:30
Admiral_ChicagoChappie1776: not sure, what i did was reinstall kubuntu...03:30
Chappie1776Yeah I did that once already.  I will try simplifying the hardware.  How does linux handle SLI?  Does it?03:31
urantherwhat package is python-gtkmoz under?03:32
Adydazuranther: try sudo apt-cache search gtkmoz03:32
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urantherthis isn't what i'm looking for03:33
urantheri see ruby bindings03:33
urantherand cli bindings03:33
Adydazwhat are you trying to do03:33
Adydazor install03:33
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uranthertrying to install the python module gtkmoz03:34
AdydasNo but what program(s) are you trying to install that require that03:34
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urantheroh, well i'm writing a program in python03:35
Adydasso its for mozilla?03:36
urantheri'm using the mozilla rendering engine module03:37
Chappie1776Guys...thanks for the help.  I am out.03:37
Malay_LinuxAnyone from Malaysia03:37
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Adydasuranther: TRY.. python-xpcom03:38
Adydaseven tho im not sure03:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about masquerade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:38
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uranthererr don't see that03:39
AdydasPyGtkMoz - Python bindings for the GTK+ Mozilla Widget - http://sourceforge.net/projects/pygtkmoz03:39
urantherjust install them from there?03:40
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Adydasthats the best help im able to give you im sorry03:40
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Adydasdownloading this03:40
Geraldhey guys03:40
AdydasPackage Release Date Notes / Monitor Downloads03:41
Adydaspygtkmoz0.1May 17, 2004 - Download03:41
Adydasmay help you more than wehere you are now03:41
Adydasim sure therd be an apt way to get it but I cant help you with what pacakge you need03:41
Geraldgot a question about Konqueror no one seems to be able to help with03:41
Adydastry.. even tho i dont use konqueror03:41
Geraldhow do i turn off http referrer logging?03:42
urantheri have python-gnome2-extras installed03:42
urantherit should be in there :/03:42
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Geraldi cannot find anything of this anywhere on the net, not even in the Konqueror forums03:44
Geraldhere's the question again...03:45
Geraldhow do i turn off http referrer logging in Konqueror?03:45
Adydasare you sure you CAN?03:45
kristjan_I somehow screwed up the power manager. now my cpu runs at full power all the time03:45
Geraldadydas... i've heard you can, but I cannot find anything on it anywhere03:45
Geraldi wish Konq had a kind of about:config, but it doesn't03:46
Adydasi would go back the source saying you can03:46
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Geraldcan't find the forum or the entry, unfortunately03:47
Geraldthe one thing that should be simple and I cannot even figure it out... been using Linux since '98...sad03:47
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kristjan_Gerald: can you do it in firefox?03:51
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Geraldkristjan... yes03:53
Geraldtype about:config in the address bar03:54
Geraldtype in ref03:54
dwidmannGerald, there is a nice config file for konqui though ... just no GUI about:config window03:54
Geraldand then toggle http referrer logging to "false"03:54
Geralddwidmann, thanks... i'll have a look03:55
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Geralddwidmann, thanks04:01
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sonyvaiowho can help me?04:03
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sonyvaiolook i need to leave beryl with its defaults options04:03
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:04
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surgyok guys i have a problem all of my avi files work except one..... dont point my at ubotu please becuase i allready have all of the codecs..... im also using vlc to play the file can you guys help me? the file works under kl mega codec for windows04:09
Jucatosurgy: doesn't play in kaffeine using xine? have you tried playing with mplayer?04:09
urantherAdydas: well i was using a deprecated name for the widget..04:10
urantherusing the new one, it segfaults :304:10
surgyjucato i hate kaffeine i will try mplayer04:10
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kristjan_surgy: what's the codec the video uses?04:10
Jucatosurgy: kmplayer, btw, can use either xine or mplayer as backends, if you just hated the Kaffeine UI04:10
d03boywhy does the linux community accept such low quality GUIs like kaffeine :P04:11
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d03boyor anything written in gtk04:11
HymnToLifed03boy, write something better04:11
kristjan_kaffeine isn't in gtk04:11
Jucatod03boy: kaffeine is KDE/Qt04:11
manchickend03boy: The linux community is all about the Kernel.  Kaffeine is a KDE program.04:12
kristjan_anyway mplayer is best04:12
surgyjucato: i hate everything about kafeine04:12
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.04:12
Geraldremember, freedom first, quality second04:12
Adydassurgy: used mplayer?04:12
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Geraldlikes amarok and vlc04:12
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surgyadydas: no but i have kmplayer now why isnt it in my kdemenu?04:12
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Geraldunderdog... you're obviousl;y pro-proprietary software04:13
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:13
Geraldi'm not04:13
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manchickenGo Admiral_Chicago, you whip out that !offtopic!04:13
surgyunderdog5004: wheres my computer? lol j/k04:13
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surgyanyone wanna tell me why kmplayer isnt in my kde menu?04:14
Jucatosurgy: did you just install it? kmplayer or mplayer?04:14
surgyafter i sudo apt-get install kmplayer04:14
Jucatobtw, installing kmplayer doesn't really install mplayer... (iirc)04:14
Geraldsurgy... sometimes you have to logout/in to see things in the menu..04:15
surgyoh ok04:15
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JucatoGerald: not necessary04:15
Geraldsometimes it is, dude04:15
Jucatosurgy: run "kbuildsycoca" to update the menu in case something doesn't appear immediately04:15
JucatoGerald: ^^^04:15
kristjan_does this kubuntu's power manager plan to get more features. at this moment I can't think of any reason why I should prefer it over good old klaptop?04:15
surgywhat is klaptop?04:16
gansinhoplease, does anyone here uses avant-window-manager04:16
Admiral_Chicagogansinho: i think 95% of us use Kwin.04:17
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Admiral_Chicagoit's not even in the repos04:17
surgyok so mplayer is no good for me04:17
surgygives me an error04:17
gansinhoAdmiral_Chicago: uhn... I know, thanks anyway! =)04:17
kristjan_surgy: klaptop is better laptop battery monitor than kubuntu's default04:17
surgybut i dont care to debug the error04:17
d03boyis mplayer supported anymore?04:17
kristjan_mplayers works very well here04:18
surgylets just say mplayer is trash like kafeine04:18
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kristjan_no way04:18
Jucatosurgy: mplayer or kmplayer?04:18
Geraldtry VLC04:18
surgywhat can i do to get my movie to work under vlc?04:18
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Adydasi stand by VLC04:18
Jucatohi Admiral_Chicago04:18
surgyjucato: both04:18
Geraldwhat format?04:18
kristjan_you need /usr/lib/win32 for mplayer04:18
surgybut all my other avi work fine04:18
Jucatosurgy: in KMPlayer's settings, try checking if it's using MPlayer as the backend?04:18
Admiral_Chicagovlc works for avi.04:19
Jucatothis single avi file plays on Windows?04:19
Jucatoit could be a codec problem...04:19
surgyyes it plays on windows04:19
Geraldvlc should work out of the box04:19
surgyit plays under the kl mega codec pack under windows04:19
Admiral_Chicagomight be a DRM issue?04:19
surgyand my kmplayer is using xine04:19
kristjan_kaffeine has only had trouble with x264 codec for me04:19
Geraldhates drm04:19
Geralddrm is evil, plain and simple04:20
Jucatosurgy: try switching kmplayer to use mplayer04:20
surgygerald: vlc is my favorite but is not working on this file04:20
Geraldsurgy... could be drm'd04:20
Jucatosurgy: but it might be really a codec problem04:20
surgyjucato: but i tryed to open it with mplayer and it whouldnt work.... but ill try it04:20
lovlosswhy did mp3 support just go screwey for me?04:20
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Geraldsurgy... stand by for a link04:20
surgywhat is drm?04:20
Geralddigital rights management04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:21
surgygerald: then why does it work under windows?04:21
Geraldevil control feature to keep people from copying or sharing softare/movies, etc04:21
Admiral_ChicagoGerald: digital restriction management04:21
surgyjucato: how do i get an extensive codec pack for vlc?04:21
cmp1988DRM stands for "We're scared of pirates all the time so we have to make it hard for everyone!"04:21
Geraldadmiral...digital RIGHTS management04:21
Jucatosurgy: that I don't know. if the file is really DRM'ed, I'm afraid there's no way to play it on Linux04:21
lovlossrights, restrictions, same diff04:22
surgyjucato: but then why does it work on kl media on windows?04:22
posingaspopularGerald: admiral uses restrictions because he thinks its more representative of the issue04:22
Jucatoagain.. getting offtopic...04:22
GeraldOH, i'm cool with that, then04:22
lovlossso... again.... whhy cant i listen to mp3s anymore?04:22
surgyjucato: your one of these mythicle "ninja ops" ?04:23
Jucatosurgy: might be because WIndows has no problem playing DRM'ed files? not really sure as I don't have that .avi you are tyring to play04:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:23
lovlossi was able to, i think an update may have messed me up04:23
cmp1988Is it relatively easy to convert my "U" to "KU"?04:23
Admiral_ChicagoGerald: right give individuals power, DRM takes it away. this is offtopic unfortunately.04:24
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Jucatolovloss: what happens when you try to play an mp3?04:24
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leafwany ideas why edgy boots with the swap off ?04:24
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nixternalnever realised that it did that04:24
lovlossjucato: amarok says no support installed. When i ask it to install it, amarok crashes. Kaffeine just complains that it isnt recognizable04:24
Geraldsurgy...check out this link. it's for ubunti, but it's still relevant for what you need04:24
nixternalbeen a while since I used edgy though04:24
cmp1988did you make sure you had a swap selected for install?04:24
Jucatolovloss: hm.. try "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" ?04:25
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leafwnixternal : at least on this laptop, it does04:25
nixternalleafw: how are you checking this if I might ask?04:25
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nixternalI want to see if Feisty does the same with my lappy04:25
lovlossJucato: already the newest viersion, it says04:25
leafwcmp1988 : 'top' lists zero swap. 'gparted' lets me turn in on with "swapon" command/04:25
Jucatohm... strange...04:25
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: it doesn't over here04:26
leafwcmp1988 : then swap is on, no problem, until the next reboot.04:26
Geraldwhat's the topic?04:26
lovlossJucato: interesting. vlc can do it04:26
cmp1988leafw: that's interesting..04:26
surgythnx ffor the info guys i will just consider this one to be "not watchable"04:26
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Jucatolovloss: vlc and mplayer doens't rely on xine (libxine-extracodecs)04:26
Geraldvlc is awesome, no doubt about it04:26
leafwcmp1988 : very, indeed. I am puzzled.04:26
lovlossjucato But i like kaffeine04:26
cmp1988vlc is great, it's the only media player that actually syncs the actions and sounds on DVD's04:27
cmp1988at least on my install of Ubuntu04:27
Jucatosurgy: unfortunately, no one will be able to reliably reproduce your "bug", as we don't have that avi file. so I guess you really have to consider it unwatchable...04:27
kristjan_leafw: ubuntu likes swap equal to or more than 1.5 x size of your ram04:27
Jucatolovloss: hmm...04:27
leafwkristjan_ : I know, thanks. I've been on linux since redhat 6.004:27
Geraldsurgy...go read the kink i put up a minute ago... may be helpful04:27
Jucatokristjan_: um... not really04:27
lovloss* much confused! *04:27
Geralder, link04:27
kristjan_Jucato: if it is smaller, then susped to disk fails04:28
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kristjan_Jucato: at least this is the rumor04:28
leafwkristjan_ : my swap is exactly double the size of my RAM04:28
Jucatokristjan_: that I wouldn't know.. I don't suspend to disk.04:28
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Jucatobut I have 1:1 RAM-swap ration04:28
surgygerald, jucato: that last statement i made wasnt another cry for help. its just not worth the trouble of me going through all that bs so my g/f can watch another chick flick(or try to force me to) but thank you04:28
Geraldsurgy... depends04:29
kristjan_leafw: I remember having similar bug months ago04:29
Geraldg/f control  your happiness to a great extent04:29
kristjan_leafw: it appeared then I suspended to disk04:29
leafwkristjan_ : my sys is up to dat04:29
surgygerald: yeah.... she has a laptop and a desktop...... that both play the movie......04:29
kristjan_leafw: there is a command that enables swap04:29
Geraldthen what's the problem unless they run linux?04:30
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surgygerald: i have the big monitor and couch04:30
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Geraldjucato... wax on wax off04:30
Geraldremember that?04:30
leafwkristjan_ : I do so from gparted, but in any case, why is the loading kernel messages reporting that swap is being activated 'ok', but it doesn't ?04:30
Malay_LinuxI'm Malaysian04:31
GeraldI'm human04:31
underdog5004That's where they make processors!04:31
kristjan_leafw: don't ask me technical stuff ;)04:31
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leafwkristjan_ : no prob04:31
surgyhi malay_linux: doesnt matter your origin here :)04:31
Geraldsurgy... too true... i'm from vulcan myself04:31
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Jucato(what matters is you speak in English in here...)04:32
Geraldwould love to have t'pol as a girlfriend04:32
Geraldenglish definately helps04:32
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Geraldso, who uses konqueror in here?04:32
Jucatoenglish is definitely required (in here)04:32
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surgygerald: everyone04:33
kristjan_Gerald: only as filemanager04:33
surgygerald: it is our file manager04:33
surgygerald: so we all use it04:33
Geraldi tried dwidmanns rc file for konq, but there is nothing in there to turn off http referrer logging04:33
surgygerald: need help with it?04:33
Geraldi meant as a browser04:33
Geraldread above surgy04:33
ecualohello everyone04:33
surgyhello ecualo04:33
JucatoGerald: were you able to read what I said earlier in #kde?04:34
Malay_LinuxI'm from Malaysia04:34
Geraldrepeat, pls04:34
Malay_Linuxand i'm Malay04:34
JucatoGerald: are you a bit at ease with compiling from source code? coz if you are, this kde-apps.org utility has a toggle to enabled/disable HTTP referrer: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=5117004:34
ecualodoes anyone knows about hacking04:34
surgymalay_linux: we understand and it doesnt matter where your from!04:34
Jucatoecualo: define hacking04:34
Malay_Linuxi'm not true hacker04:34
Geraldyeah, i can compile from source04:34
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:34
Malay_Linuxhahaha sorry gang04:34
Malay_LinuxI'm Islam04:34
posingaspopulari think thats enough.... (still laughs)04:35
underdog5004Malay_Linux, we don't care.04:35
JucatoMalay_Linux: we're not usually interested. do you actually have a question?04:35
kristjan_what is referrer logging anyway?04:35
ecualolearning, programing04:35
Geraldislam is a lame operating system...04:35
surgymalay_linux: this is a support channel we are not here to get to know each other.... fo to #kde-offtopic to do that04:35
Jucatosurgy: er.. wrong channel04:35
surgyjucato sorry.....04:35
Jucatosurgy: I think you meant #kubuntu-offtopic :)04:36
surgyjucato: yes thank you04:36
Geraldis offtopic a meat market?04:36
surgygerald: are you?04:36
ecualojucato I want to learn programing and UNIX04:36
surgyecualo: what language?04:36
surgyecualo: might i suggest you join #python ?04:37
ecualoho ok how do I do that??04:37
Wolfeok, now Dapper wont work04:37
JucatoGerald: <-- scroll down to the section on Disable Sending of HTTP Referrer and click on the [+]  to show the contents of that entry04:37
surgyecualo: tpype: /join #python04:37
surgywolfe: whats the problem?04:37
ecualo /join #python04:37
Wolfethe dapper cd image i burned, wont run, it goes straight to windows04:38
Wolfeand the bios are right04:38
underdog5004Wolfe, did you burn it as an iso?04:38
Geraldbeen looking for that for days04:38
kristjan_Jucato: why did kubuntu developers choose crippled power manager? and do they plan to add features so it can match kpowersave/klaptop?04:38
Geraldi just started using kubuntu04:38
surgywolfe: your bios are set to boot cd first..... check to see if your cdrom works right and reburn the cd image04:38
ecualonothing happends sorry Im new here can anyone help me??04:38
Jucatokristjan_: dunno. I know nothing about those kind of stuff04:38
underdog5004Gerald, when you view the cd under windows, what does it say?04:38
underdog5004like, what files are visible?04:38
Geraldunder, what cd?04:39
ubotuirc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines04:39
Jucatoecualo: type in your IRC client: /join #python04:39
surgy!irc | ecualo04:39
ubotuecualo: please see above04:39
Jucatoecualo: so that you'll join the #python channel04:39
ecualoa did that04:39
underdog5004Gerald, sorry, I meant, Wolfe04:39
underdog5004Wolfe, , when you view the cd under windows, what does it say?04:39
Geraldno worries04:39
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angasuleI pressed ALT+F2 to get the 'run' dialog, then input 0.3*46 and pressed enter, now the desktop has no icons and no wallpaper, and I can't call the 'run' dialog again04:39
Wolfei have auto-run off04:40
Wolfeone sec, ill check04:40
ecualoit said that i need to ID to enter there04:40
angasule(I think I pressed enter twice)04:40
surgyecualo: although i whould suggest you learn to use irc and know your basic hardware before attempting bash scripting or programming, no ofense intended04:40
kristjan_Gerald: what is that referrer anyway? something to do with security?04:40
ecualook thanks but how do I do that please help me04:41
Geraldkristjan, no04:41
surgyecualo: type /msg nickserve identify                 it will tell you how to identify and registr yourself04:41
Geraldhttp referrer logging is when you go from one website to another, the receiving website can see where you've come from04:41
underdog5004ecualo, the whole "motto" if you will of linux is learn yourself. When you can't figure it out, ask for help.04:41
surgyecualo: start at http:www.google.com and ask your basic questions there you can learn tons04:41
underdog5004or maybe that's just my motto...04:41
ecualook thanks for your help04:41
Geraldif referrer logging is turned off, it appears as if you typed in the URL from the browser address bar04:42
surgyunderdog5004: i think you hit the nail on the head there04:42
Geraldrather than coming from another site04:42
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kristjan_Gerald: ok, and why is that important?04:42
Geraldbecause i value my security04:42
surgyhi mbelleza04:42
Geraldand i don't like being tracked04:42
underdog5004Wolfe, you still around?04:42
Geraldi block ads, so that helps04:42
surgymbelleza: can i help you?04:43
Geraldtracking cookies will serve up ads based on where you've been04:43
kristjan_Gerald: does it only work then I click on the link? or it also works if I'm e.g. www.x.com and then type into address bar www.y.com?04:43
mbellezasurgy, tanx...but i dnt have problem yet for my computer...04:43
Geraldonly clicking on links04:43
surgymbelleza: ok when you do someone will be here04:44
Geraldor getting re-directed, but re-directions can track you with JS04:44
Wolfewell, im about to run to the restroom, then to make some dinner04:44
Geraldi turn JS off04:44
Wolfeso, back in a few04:44
surgyunderdog5004: you ever get your xorg lined out?04:44
mbellezasurgy: ok..tanx..04:44
surgymbelleza: np04:44
Geraldthe reason i asked about konq is because i'm starting to really like kde over gnome and i eventually want to only use kde04:45
kristjan_Gerald: I don't mind adds directed for my liking. I have developed immunity against most adds04:45
underdog5004surgy, heh, I reinstalled...04:45
Geraldkristjan, i block ALL ads04:45
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kristjan_Gerald: well konqueror isn't that great as firefox, but that's just my opinion04:45
surgygerald: i find firefox to be more secure, it make me paranoid to use konq becuase i know it has direct access to everything04:45
surgyunderdog5004: sux04:45
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underdog5004meh, not so bad...just took a while to re-install all my fave proggys...04:46
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Geraldsurgy... there is separation of duties there to prevent that. I've been reading about it04:46
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Geraldthe kde devs took great pains to avoid what you mention04:46
surgygerald: i dont doubt that it has safety features....... but there is that looming impression that it has the possibility to do anything04:47
Jucatosurgy: konqueror only has access to what you would allow it to.04:47
dwidmannnothing more than firefox could do really ...04:47
kristjan_konqueror is great but firefox is faster. because konq doesn't have that dns-something04:47
underdog5004swiftfox ftw!04:47
surgyjucato: i understand..... im just paranoid about hackers destroying and stealing04:47
Geraldthe safest browser out there is opera, but i won't use proprietary software04:47
Geraldkonq is faster than FF04:47
dwidmannkristjan_: that's what pdnsd or dnsmasq are there for :)04:48
Geraldbenchmarks prove it04:48
kristjan_Gerald: wait, I'll find the link04:48
Geraldlink from whom?04:48
surgygerald: i agree opera is awsome04:48
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Geraldopera is best, but it's not free software04:48
underdog5004surgy, best thing you can do is make a really strong password for your box, and use proxies...and...disable ssh...04:48
surgyjucato: we are too far off topic?04:48
kristjan_Gerald: kde bugzilla04:48
Geraldkhtml is faster than gecko from what i've been reading04:48
Geraldand experiencing04:49
surgydoesnt lynx beat them all in speed?04:49
dwidmannkristjan_: Seriously, I know what you're referring to .... I even voted on that bug ... but setting up dnsmasq fixes the problem.04:49
underdog5004I think lynx is fastes...but no images...poor for pr0n...04:49
kristjan_Gerald: compare digg scrolling speed in konq and ff04:49
Geraldasci pr0n04:49
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kristjan_Gerald: digg.com *04:50
kristjan_I found konq bug - all vote :p - http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13523004:51
xpointif its a bug why wote ? :-)04:51
kristjan_xpoint: why not04:51
surgyyou guys are right konq stomps firefox in speed......... but what about basic customization? like setting a homepage? who wins there?04:51
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kristjan_surgy: setting homepage?04:52
Geraldkristjan... konq is faster, sorry...just tried it for myself04:52
xpointkristjan_: its basicly still a bug if its a bug04:52
mikeWhat is the best web camera app?04:52
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:52
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.04:52
n8k99surgy: what's a homepage?04:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about etrn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:52
piro_and konq doesnt randomly close out whenever it feels like it04:53
surgyn8k99: lol go to google.com and ask that04:53
kristjan_n8k99: I think he means opening page04:53
surgya homepage is the page that loads when you click the home page button04:53
kristjan_Gerald: maybe it's my hardware then, but scrolling in digg.com is slower than in firefox04:53
Geraldi was an epiphany user when using ubuntu, but konq is like opera in speed and configuration04:53
n8k99right- I was being a tad facecious- my home button gives me /home/n8k99/04:53
surgymike: check digiKam04:53
GeralddigiKam is nice. simple, but nice04:54
mikesurgy: cheers04:54
surgykristjan_: do you have your video card drivers set up?04:54
xpointkristjan_: its more correct to confirm that it is a bug04:54
Geraldsanford and son is on in 5 minutes04:54
mikeHell Kubuntu takes up bulk room!04:54
surgymike: np04:54
kristjan_surgy: I do04:54
kristjan_xpoint: is it konqueror bug or that page bug?04:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sudoku - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:55
kristjan_besides, I haven't found mplayer-mozilla plugin replica for konqueror04:55
surgykristjan_:kmplayer does that i think04:56
mikekubuntu "herd" has bulked out to 2.6 gig,,wow04:56
Geraldis impressed with konq the more i use it04:56
kristjan_surgy: it's not as good as mplayer-plugin. video likes to stop04:57
Gerald2.6 gig?04:57
Geraldthat's ridiculous04:57
mikesure is04:57
Geraldpretty soon ubuntu is going to hit more than 1 cd04:57
surgykristjan_: it all comes down to preference when you said "its better" it means its better in your opinion...... maybe drop it?04:57
Geraldwho here uses konversation for irc?04:58
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kristjan_I do04:58
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surgygerald: i can see kubuntu being like fedora someday..... which isnt bad, i rather like there distro setup and wished i had a set like that for kubuntu04:58
Geraldi used bitch-x for years, but this is much easier04:58
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surgykonversation is my favorite04:59
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xpointkristjan_: slow loading webpage -- dhcp, dns, wireless related < that bug04:59
surgygerald: it integrates into the os better04:59
Geraldi've only been using ubuntu/kubuntu for about 18 months04:59
Geraldbefore that it was fedora04:59
n8k99surgy how so?04:59
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kristjan_xpoint: why is voting pointless?04:59
Geraldbefore that is was red flat, er hat04:59
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:00
surgyn8k99: it feals natural and is setup so that any newbie can just click it and it comes here for help..... i think it should be made into the operating system as a live help center type thing05:00
xpointkristjan_: i see it olso here on breezy, just not as much as the bug reports05:00
ubuntuI am using Konversation at Kubuntu05:00
leafwwhat kubuntu will do, is be distributed not in CDs but in 1Gb flash drives05:00
leafwthat's the next cheap storage device05:00
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leafwin about a year, flash drives will hit a ridiculously low price05:01
Jucatoalmost everyone05:01
kristjan_xpoint: on what should I waste my votes over at kde bugzilla then?05:01
mikekernel 2.6.20 smp has a bug05:01
leafwsentry out05:01
crimsunmike: just one?05:01
Geraldi wish kubuntu would release a mini distro that has just the basics05:01
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Dr_willisGerald,  i thought there was such a thing in the works.05:02
xpointkristjan_: yes if its not ubuntu related05:02
Geraldkind of like what the BSDs do...05:02
mikeGerald: that is sidux05:02
Dr_willissome sort of mini-kde.05:02
ubuntuI think Kubuntu is better than Ubuntu05:02
ubuntuIts amazing!05:02
Dr_willisi was testing out sidux over the weekend... it needs work.... :)05:02
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Geraldkubuntu looks better than ubuntu, but gnome is more elegant than KDE, since it's simpler05:02
Dr_willisSorry we are all discussing Linux in the #offtopic channel. :)05:03
Jucatoguys, it just takes one click to transfer to the offtopic channel and continue there05:03
Geraldwhat's the topic in here, then05:03
Jucato!offtopic | Gerald05:03
ubotuGerald: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:03
Dr_willisGerald,  like a Bolgogna Samwich is more elegant then a Steak Dinner. :)05:03
mikekubuntu has got fat05:03
Admiral_ChicagoTopic for #kubuntu: Kubuntu Support Channe05:04
Dr_williskubuntu dosent even install all of the kde stuff.05:04
mikeHowever it is going well05:04
Admiral_Chicagotype /t05:04
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kristjan_everything else > #kubuntu-offtopic05:04
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mikeDr_willis: I did an "apt-get install kde05:04
Admiral_Chicagoalso in the topic: #kubuntu-offtopic for anything non-support related05:04
mikeand all upgrades05:04
Dr_willismike,  i still think theres things not installed..05:04
kristjan_or > #ubuntu-offtopic < with more people05:04
Dr_willisthemes, some applets, and so forth05:05
Geraldprefers KOffice to Open Office, but there is no PDF export in KOffice that i'm aware of.05:05
mikeDr_willis: where is kuickshow?05:05
Dr_willisGerald,  you can print to pdf05:05
Dr_willis!find kuickshow05:05
kristjan_to praise kde join #kde05:05
mikeI only get gwenview05:05
ubotuFile kuickshow found in kdegraphics-doc-html05:05
Geraldprint to PDF, but what about save as PDF?05:05
Jucatokuickshow isn't in Kubuntu since dapper05:05
Dr_willismike,  i dont use either one.05:05
Jucatomike: ^^05:05
cfraz89Gerald: it saves as a file when you print05:05
mikeDr_willis:tell all doc?05:06
mikewhat do you use05:06
Dr_williswine irfanview.exe05:06
Jucatomike: the "kde" metapackage will install *a lot* of packages, because it will install everything in the KDE modules: kdebase, kdemultimedia, kdegraphics, kdeextras, kdeaddons, kdeutils, etc05:06
Geraldi have to use OO.o to do my resume but of KOffice can do it, then i'll drop oo.o05:06
cfraz89i'd like to try out koffice 2.0 svn05:06
mikeJucato: but no kuickshow?05:06
GeraldKOfice seems less buggy than open office05:06
Jucatomike: nope no kuickshow unfortunately05:06
mikeJucato: err...y?05:07
Jucatomike: let me get the "bug" report05:07
n8k99iirc kuickshow has not been updated in nearly three years05:07
Jucatomike: hopefully, that situation will  change soon05:07
mikei see05:07
Dr_willisbuggy, no maintainers? lack of updates. ect.. often kill a package from what ive seen05:07
Jucaton8k99: though that's not really the reason05:07
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mike3 yrs05:08
Dr_willisi rember using XV for years...05:08
Jucatomike: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/4208105:09
mikeDr_willis: It is still in etch and sid?05:09
Dr_willismike,  not sure.. i havent messed with images lately in any disrto.05:09
Dr_willisother then setting wallpaper05:09
Jucatokuickshow is still officially part of KDE's kdegraphics module. but for the reason above, it's not included in Kubuntu since Dapper05:10
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mikeDr_willis: I miss kuickshow,,,get me a nurse,,quick05:11
Dr_williscant even recall using that one mike05:12
unix_infidelyou need a waaaambulance is what you need.05:12
Dr_willisi recall using pixieSomthing...05:12
Dr_willisgoogle has Picassa2 for linux now dont it?05:12
ubuntuNow i can play mp3 music at Ubuntu05:14
Geraldnot free software05:14
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ubuntuFor ubuntu users, please download Automatix205:15
ubuntuits very useful05:15
Dr_willisthat is very BAD BAD advice05:16
Dr_willisand it is not needed.05:16
ubuntuto beginner05:16
Dr_willisits best to read the guides and learn the proper way to install the stuff05:16
surgyhi DR_willis05:16
Dr_willishello surgy05:16
Dr_willisI belive over the weekend i tallied like 6 systems or so trashed by those kind of scripts05:16
surgydr_willis: your a professional linux admin?05:17
Dr_willisI just Play one on TV.05:17
ubuntuim beginner of linux05:18
Dr_willis"New Linux - good for what ails you!"05:18
surgymind if i pm you?05:18
ubuntuplz help me to improve05:18
surgyubuntu: where shale we start?05:18
Dr_willisubuntu,  read read read and read... is the best help.05:18
Dr_willisfor a start -- get a real nickname05:18
ubuntuim young, 20 years old05:18
Dr_willis /nick ILoveToRead05:18
surgy!repos |ubuntu05:18
ubotuubuntu: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:18
surgy!restricted | ubuntu05:18
ubotuubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:18
ubuntui know something about windows system but i want to learn more in linux os05:19
Dr_willissurgy,  i got no real training in pcs at all.. unless you count the C64 classes i took ages ago in school (yes i am old) ive learned most all this by reading the various books05:19
Dr_willisand of course hanging on irc.05:19
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Malay_Linuxubuntu is known as Malay_Linux05:19
Dr_willisYes - we saw the nickchange. :)05:20
surgydr_willis: i was wanting to pm you becuase jucato has allready yelled at us once for being off topic05:20
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Dr_willisshame on us. :) lets join.... lets see...... #WeLoveBeingOffTopic05:20
mikeSomeone get working on kuickshow,cmon people05:22
Dr_willismike,  use the source?05:22
miketomato mostly05:22
Malay_Linuxtq for some advice05:22
vegasmcpcanybody willing to help me with editing my /etc/fstab?05:23
Malay_Linuxi hope linux will become easier to young people ;)05:23
Malay_Linuxlike me05:23
Malay_Linux hehe05:23
mikevegasmcpc: whats broken now05:23
vegasmcpci have a raid array set up, i just need to mount it and i don't want to mess stuff up05:24
vegasmcpcnothing, the raid array's set up, i just need to know how to get the uuid, etc.05:25
mikevegasmcpc: copy n paste the original somewhere safe 1st05:25
mikethen go to town,,:)05:25
Dr_willisMalay_Linux,  problem with focusing on   (not to be insulting) "Total-beginner-idiots-newbies" is that they expect the OS to Bend over backwards for them.. THEN do a backflip.. they dont want to put forth any effort to learn the very compex tool that a computer is.05:25
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Malay_Linuxhow to play mpeg2 file at Ubuntu?05:26
vegasmcpcok, i saved a backup as /etc/fstab.backup05:26
Dr_willisvlc/mplayer/xine/totem should be able to play those..05:26
mikeDr_willis: oh how insulting05:26
Dr_willismike,  :)05:26
Dr_willisvery visual..05:26
vegasmcpcmike: now what do i do?05:26
Apallo_i am having trouble with the power management on my laptop...it is reporting that the processor is running at 600mhz while plugged in05:26
surgydr_willis: linux will bend over backwards for anyone if they touch her just right :)05:27
Apallo_where can i find the options to turn off cpu throttling?05:27
mikeApallo_: bios05:27
Apallo_is that the only way?05:27
Apallo_cause i'd rather turn it off in the software05:28
surgymalay_linux: did you learn from google? or do any research since our last talk?05:28
mikeApallo_: system setting in advanced?05:29
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vegasmcpcwhat's the command in konsole to find the uuid of a device?05:29
Apallo_i only get disk & filesystems, System Services and login manager05:29
mortixalgun chileno en kubuntu?05:30
Admiral_Chicago!es | mortix05:30
ubotumortix: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:30
surgymortix: this is english channel05:30
Admiral_Chicagoactually, what is chile speak05:30
Admiral_Chicagowhat is spoken in Chile?05:31
mortixok, thank ;) is my first time05:31
Admiral_ChicagoApallo_: spanish05:31
Apallo_just taking a guess...05:31
mortixhow change chanel?05:31
Admiral_Chicagomortix: /join #kubuntu-es05:32
Malay_Linuxnot really05:32
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surgymalay_linux: you need to know the basics. you need to know your processor your amount of ram etc etc what an OS is and how it works.... and a few dozen other things that your not going to learn here05:33
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Malay_Linuxthats thing i  know already05:33
vegasmcpcanybody know the command in konsole that shows the details of a device, such as the uuid?05:34
surgymalay_linux: ok then ask a direct question, and you will get a direct answer05:34
surgyvehasmcpc: check your fstab?05:34
unix_infidelwhat about the uid?05:34
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surgyno idea there05:35
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Apallo_is the restricted formats page on the wiki outdated or something?05:35
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KaoticEvildoes anyone have a ZyXel AG-225H USB wireless adapter?05:35
surgyapallo_: why do you ask?05:36
Apallo_i did all the stuff on there and can't get my videos to work05:36
Dr_willisI think wiki pages get outdated the moment they are written. :)05:36
Malay_Linuxi know basic about windows or linux05:36
Dr_willisthats why they are wikis :)05:36
surgy!wireless | kaoticwvil05:36
ubotukaoticwvil: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:36
Malay_Linuxbut i want learn basic of hacking (not cracking)05:36
surgymalay_linux: then maybe you should start with learning irc05:36
surgymalay_linux and no mater what nick or how you ask this is not the channel to ask a question about hacking in05:37
Malay_Linuxohh sorry for that05:37
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Malay_Linuxerm.... IRC05:37
bonbonthejonMalay_Linux: what do you mean by hacking, coding or the illegal stuff05:37
Malay_Linuxwhere should i start05:38
Dr_willisreading the Bash beginners guide....05:38
surgymalay_linux: just to make you read.......... http://www.groovyweb.uklinux.net/?page_name=how%20to%20hack%20linux05:38
Dr_willisthen some linux begeinner guides..05:38
KaoticEvilsurgy: thats not exactly what i was looking for05:38
Apallo_!ubotu restricted formats05:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:38
Dr_willisperhaps a scripging language or 2 guides..05:38
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Dr_willislike Python - thats always good to learn.05:38
surgykaoticevil: thats all i know or i whould give you more sorry05:38
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surgydr_willis: python isnt as easy as they claim05:39
unix_infidelsure it is05:39
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n8k99Malay_Linux: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html05:39
surgyunix_infidel: not for me at least05:40
Dr_willissurgy,  but it teaches good skills. :)05:40
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Dr_willisand comes in handy05:40
KaoticEvilhmmm. well, it does mention the adapter... looks like i'll be swapping all my wifi cards around o_o05:40
unix_infidelsurgy: well, it all depends on what you want to do with it.05:40
Dr_willisof course I like REXX - but im weird..05:40
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geniiWeird can be good05:40
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unix_infidelcoding py tk inter or pygtk stuff is hard, simple io and text stuff is easy.05:40
surgyunix_infidal, dr_willis mind bringing this up in #welovebeingofftopic   ?05:40
bonbonthejonis there a tutorial for qt aimed for kubuntu05:40
unix_infidelthe interation stuff is a LOT harder to grasp if you're coming from like C or perl.05:41
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mikeIs there an easy way to install beryl?05:42
mikeshe's hot05:42
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:42
Dr_willisHow about 'whats a good  "what should total beginners learn about linux first" guide'05:42
n8k99bonbonthejon: i dunno if its specific for kubuntu but kde.org has some tutorials05:42
bonbonthejonn8k99: i think i looked there, but the qt libs they wanted were old, and i never got it to compile05:42
surgymike: there is an auto install script05:42
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surgymike: join #beryl05:42
n8k99bonbonthejon: there has been some work on it recently05:43
mikesurgy: what about a repo/05:43
n8k99bonbonthejon: at least the tutorials use kdevelop305:43
surgymike: join #beryl05:43
geniiAre there any short introduction to KDE/Kubuntu movies playable on the computer which someone knows about? I am supplying a lot of systems pre-installed with Dapper to novices and want to put an instructional video on the desktop to help them out.05:43
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Malay_Linuxthanks again05:44
Malay_Linuxi can got linux easily but how can i get unix?05:45
bonbonthejonMalay_Linux: what do you mean05:45
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surgymalay_linux: man your fixing to piss me off................. go look it up start at http://www.google.com this is kubuntu support not hacking or unix05:45
Malay_Linuxi want to know something about unix05:45
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Malay_Linuxanyone can help me?05:45
geniiMalay_Linux There are currently 2 free unix releases, FreeBSD and FreeSolaris05:46
vaswhy whenever I try to run Eclipse.exe in /opt it asks me what I want to open it with?05:46
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bonbonthejonMalay_Linux: learn linux first05:46
Malay_Linuxok tq05:46
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JucatoMalay_Linux: please do some research first. This is channel is for Kubuntu support questions05:46
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surgysorry for bad language05:47
x04ty29erhence the kubuntu in the title05:47
JucatoMalay_Linux: there are many articles, links, pages, and even some IRC channels for Linux or UNIX. but please try to research. http://www.google.com05:47
surgyx04ty29er: i think you have the hardest to type nick ive ever seen.... nice to meet you05:47
vasI think its an extremely simple problem considering i's so simple yet going so wrong05:47
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x04ty29ersurgy: lol05:47
x04ty29erive heard that alot05:48
geniiAnyone know some links to instructional videos for Kubuntu?05:48
x04ty29eri guess its a compliment05:48
x04ty29ernice to meet you too05:48
Jucatosurgy: that's why I love Tab completion on IRC :)05:48
n8k99surgy x04ty29er is easy to autocomplete05:48
surgygenii: there is a little video on the kubuntu live cd that tells the history of the word "ubuntu" that might be a good one05:48
bonbonthejongenii: there might be some videos on youtube05:48
vasanyone else ever get this problem?05:49
Jucatogenii: Google? can't think of any from the top of my head, but I'm sure there are some05:49
bonbonthejongenii: there is also http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/05:49
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surgyvas: whats problem again sorry05:49
geniisurgy , bonbonthejon I'm looking for something I can download and put on a bunch of systems to help out new users who get the boxes05:49
surgygenii: let me see what i got05:50
vassurgy: its k :) ... Whenever I try to open Eclipse.exe in /opt/eclipse/ It asks me what I want to open it with05:50
geniisurgy Cool, thanks05:50
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n8k99bonbonthejon: did you try http://developer.kde.org/ ?05:50
vasit works05:50
Jucatovas: you would need to have wine installed05:50
Apallo_ok i give up...the wiki directions aren't working05:51
vasnevermind it was being weird05:51
vasjucato: It is the linux version anyways05:51
surgyvas: .exe programs are for windows use the comand "wine eclipse.exe" becuase wine is your win32 application layer05:51
JucatoApallo_: what are you trying to do?05:51
bonbonthejonn8k99: yes05:51
geniibonbonthejon: The ubuntuvideo site is good but gnome-oriented :(05:51
vassurgy: oooh ok I understand.. Wine probably having a laggy moment then - forgive my inexperience05:51
bonbonthejongenii: you could make some videos and submit them05:51
Apallo_get the restricted format stuff working for mp3 and video playback05:51
n8k99bonbonthejon: ok- just checking05:52
surgyvas: not a problem05:52
Apallo_and the directions on the wiki aren't working05:52
geniibonbonthejon: This is true but I'm on on a strict timeline05:52
JucatoApallo_: simply install libxine-extracodecs for MP305:52
surgygenii: check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMa6E5rnxI805:52
JucatoApallo_: if you're on Kubuntu Edgy and you try to play an MP3, you will be prompted for an option to install it05:52
Apallo_apt tells me it can't find the package05:52
geniisurgy Thanks, checking it out now05:52
Apallo_i'm more worried about video playback, i know about the mp3 thing05:52
rayluSounds like Appallo_ doesn't have the right repositories05:53
vas1 more question, kind of a preference/opinion one though: I am working on a bogging app Called Guava in PHP, I keep the files in /opt/lampp/htdocs although I preferably enjoy a My Projects folder in my Home folder.. what do other people do about this?05:53
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geniiDamn, more gnome-centric05:53
JucatoApallo_: libxine-extracodecs also handles those05:53
vaskeeping all my 'files' in my home folder simplifies backing up and general orginization05:53
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surgygenii: ok http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5676029952918957384&q=intro+to+kubuntu&hl=en05:53
rayluvas, depending on your server, it may be possible to set your server's home directory to your user's home directory05:53
JucatoApallo_: the only things it doesn't  handle are Window Media formats and Real Media05:53
surgygenii: walks you through updates05:54
vasraylu: xampp.. I will have to investigate b/c i'm new to the linux version05:54
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: lol @ Mako Hell [/offtopic] 05:54
geniisurgy Excellent :)05:54
surgygenii: kindof crappy resolution though05:54
vasgreat, once again thnx!05:54
Apallo_Jucato: http://www.pastebin.ca/raw/365726  <= the output i am getting05:55
surgygenii: thats all i got man05:55
geniisurgy Still fine for my needs, thanks again.05:55
surgygenii: not a problem05:55
JucatoApallo_: are you on Kubuntu Edgy? did you try to play an MP3 in Amarok? it will launch a script that automates all these05:55
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+105:56
Apallo_Jucato: i know...i am more worried about the video codecs05:56
unix_infideluhh, it gets released in almost 2 months and its still alpha...05:56
JucatoApallo_: libxine-extracodecs also handles those video codecs05:56
unix_infidelhow's that a good thing?05:56
bonbonthejondid anyone who upgraded to feisty have any problems like people were having upgrading to edgy?05:56
JucatoApallo_: the only things it doesn't  handle are Window Media formats and Real Media05:56
Apallo_Jucato: you are giving me a catch 22 here...05:56
Jucatothat's the 2nd time I said that05:56
rayluApallo_, the thing is05:57
JucatoApallo_: libxine-extracodecs is the package that installs the codecs for media formats like MP3, AVI, etc05:57
Apallo_E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate05:57
rayluplaying an MP3 in Amorak will install libxine-extracodecs which will play videos05:57
cj_Jucato: do you know Dynamic loader support05:57
Jucatocj_: no.05:57
Apallo_i know, i was trying to install it05:57
cj_ammm system calls05:57
raylu...so what Jucato is saying is...05:57
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JucatoApallo_: there's a script in Amarok that will add the proper repository so that you will not have that error05:58
rayluto not try installing manually and letting Amorak do it for you05:58
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Apallo_thank you05:58
JucatoApallo_: Amarok will run the script that will automate the installation of libxine-extracodecs, which is a package that will allow you to play MP3 *AND* AVI's05:58
rayluJucato, does the repos really not come with the default installation?05:58
Jucatoraylu: prior to feisty, the "multiverse" section is not added by default05:59
Jucatothey're going to add it by default in Feisty, afaik05:59
rayluAh, awesome.05:59
Apallo_ahhh, i thought i was missing something!05:59
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=== n8k99 and Click-N-Run is coming
=== Jucato hugs APT
surgyjucato: why not add all the repos by defualt and leave it up to the end user to deselect the ones they dont want?06:00
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Jucatosurgy: that's what they will be doing in Feisty, except for -backports I think06:00
Kite_DHdo you know how to make screenshots  while rotating the cube?06:00
Kite_DHi tryied everything lol06:00
surgyjucato: even restricted?06:01
raylu I did it too...I just rotated it and press Print screen06:01
JucatoKite_DH: launch KSnapshot, set it to a certain delay06:01
raylu *pressed06:01
Jucatosurgy: restricted has always been enabled by default06:01
surgykite_DH: make a macro for screen shot06:01
JucatoKite_DH: then click on "New Snapshot", rotate the cube, and wait06:01
surgyjucato: oh..... the binary driver howto is wasting noob prescious time then..... half the guide is about enableing restricted06:02
Jucatosurgy: probably unnecessary, as KSnapshot has a delay feature06:02
surgyjucato: always nice to have a macro for screenshot for debuging purposes06:02
Jucatosurgy: ah! it only happend in starting Edgy. afaik, Dapper didn't have restricted enabled by default06:02
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surgyjucato: should update the howto :)06:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:04
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Jucatosurgy: unless you're referring to something other than the official wiki, I can't seem to see what you were referring to06:06
Jucatooh wait, I was looking at ATI's06:06
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surgyjucato: i shale get you a qoute06:06
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surgyjucato: at this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia the whole section after prerequisites06:07
Jucatosurgy: you do have to note that the wiki must cater to both Dapper and whatever's the current release. so we can't remove the instructions for enabling restricted06:07
Jucatoyes I see that06:07
Jucatofor one, that section really is only appropriate for Ubuntu only. second, there's nothing wrong with actually checking if it's enabled :)06:08
surgyjucato: agreed..... how whould one start a project to make a set of pages like this for kubuntu? as to kater to us?06:08
Jucatosurgy: you can if you want :)06:09
Jucatoall you need is to sign up for the wiki. anything in help.ubuntu.com/community is user/community documentation06:09
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Jucatojust exercise a bit of caution when adding/removing stuff, making sure your steps can be reliably reproduced on other systems06:10
surgyjucato: and you guys will host it....... hmmmm i might start that..... whats the chances of gaining you guys support on such a project?06:10
raylu Haha. "kater"06:10
Jucatobut fwiw, Feisty will have a Software Properties-like utility for Kubuntu06:10
surgyjucato: im reffering to a kubuntu specific wiki06:10
Jucatosurgy: what do you mean? the user documentation is open for everybody06:11
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Jucatosurgy: there's no need for a separate site. all you need to do is either add Kubuntu-specific instructions or create a Kubuntu sub-page06:11
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raylu It would be easier to browse/search through if it were a seperate wiki06:12
raylu though harder to get ubuntu information that applies to kubuntu, I guess06:12
Jucatosurgy: for other documentation/wiki concerns, feel free to drop by #ubuntu-docs06:12
jtmoneycan someone please tell me what is going on with the white cube bug in beryl? i've read too many forums to come away with anything06:12
Jucatoraylu: actually it would even be harder06:12
surgyjucato: concentrating a bit of our efforts maybe anyone who knows something about kde or how to do it thats not specificly listed for kde can make a how to for it. turn it into a db and then make it a standalone support site. where we dont get ubuntu related instructions it can be kindof hard sometime for a newbie to convert such things06:12
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raylu white cube bug?06:12
Jucatoraylu: we're trying to actually gather documentations in one place, not separate it :)06:12
raylu yeah, I understand that06:13
jtmoneyDr_willis: yeah, i know06:13
jtmoneyi bought a new laptop today for it06:13
surgyjucato: does that make sense?06:13
jtmoneyhow pathetic06:13
Jucatosurgy: tbh, no06:13
jay_what argument for dpkg can you use to find out the requirements of a deb package?06:13
raylu without installing it?06:13
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jtmoneyDr_willis: what about compiz?06:13
jtmoneyisn't that supposed to be somewhat more stable?06:14
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surgyjucato: for example..... when i first picked up linux i hopped onto a ubuntu site and saw a howto on changeing the fstab..... it sasy "sudo gedit " well kubuntu uses nano by defualt not gedit and those things cause great confusion for newbies06:14
Dr_willisjtmoney,  i tend to test thest things out with the various live cd's06:14
draikHello Jucato06:14
Dr_willisjtmoney,  dont forget that Metiss also.. (or was it mettiss?)06:14
Jucatohi draik!06:15
draikHowdy y'all06:15
Jucatosurgy: true. but that's out of Kubuntu's direct control. in that situation, the best way would be to contact the owner of the site/howto06:15
Adydassurgy: Thats beacuse ubuntu help is based on gnome06:15
Adydaskubutu help is based on KDE06:15
Jucatosurgy: for thing under the wiki, anyone can easily put in kubuntu-specific instructions06:15
surgyjucato: that example is even evident in most of the how toos ubotu shows06:15
jtmoneyDr_willis: looks pretty good06:16
surgyi see06:16
jtmoneyi think i'll resume in feisty fox06:16
jtmoneythis is too broken for me right now06:16
Adydasubuntu gnome kubuntu kde06:16
jtmoneywell, beryl is anyways06:16
Jucatosurgy: I do realize the need for more Kubuntu instructions, but that problem will not be solved by a separate site/wiki06:16
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surgyadydas...... i know that........ thanks for insult :)06:16
Jucatosurgy: all the more, it makes it even more difficult to maintain such a site06:16
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AdydasIt sounded like you didnt, what i was getting at was subsitute a gedit command for a kde based on06:17
jay_any one here runs "emesene"? Whhere can i get python2.4-gtk2?06:17
yuriysurgy: just whenever you see only gedit on the wiki, edit and put in "or on kubuntu: kwrite..."06:17
Dr_willisjtmoney,  i tried to install mandriva to hd just to test it out more.. it failed.. I hope metisse gets included as an option inother disrtos soon.06:17
JucatoAdydas: we were sort of discussing something else06:17
surgyjucato: agreed. but kubuntu is as big if not bigger than ubuntu's comunity so why do they get all the good howtos/wiki ?06:17
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Dr_willisheh - some of the wikis/howtos are very bad.. :)06:17
Jucatosurgy: not sure your premise is correct06:17
surgyyuriy: i know that now im talking about making it easier for newcommers not myself06:17
fearlHello, I'm running Feisty, I'm wondering how I might go about removing my repeated GTK Styles and Fonts KControl entry06:17
Dr_willisI think there needs to be a Kbunmtu/Ubuntu AND "console" versions  for each one.06:18
Jucatosurgy: because ubuntu users spend their time actually writing something :)06:18
yuriysurgy: that is what i mean. edit the wiki to make it easier for newcomers06:18
Jucatofearl: please ask in #ubuntu+1?06:18
surgyyuriy: will do06:18
Geraldspeaking of tect editors, why does kate give CLI errors when I try and invoke it from the CLI, such as "sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces"06:18
Dr_willisUbuntu users are not as disrtacted by the useable desktop as us Kubuntu guys are..06:18
Dr_willisso they got time to write howtos06:18
AdydasGerald: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces06:18
surgygeral: kdesu kate not sudo kate :)06:18
Dr_willisGerald,  first guess.. the wacom tablet entrys in the xorg.conf06:18
Jucatosurgy: see, this is the reason why. some ubuntu users see a need for a guide, and they make it. kubuntu users see the need for kubuntu-specific instructions, and they ask why there isn't any :)06:19
fearlJucato: Nice suggestion... I'm banned.... do you know where KControl module lists are located?06:19
Dr_willisGerald,  but whats the exact error?06:19
surgy!kdesu | gerald06:19
ubotugerald: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo06:19
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Jucatofearl: try #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-ops to ask why you're banned06:19
yuriy!info kwrite feisty06:19
ubotuPackage kwrite does not exist in feisty06:19
surgyjucato: agreed06:19
Jucatoyuriy: kwrite isn't a separate package06:19
Geraldoh, ok... no wonder... been an ubuntu user until a couple of days ago06:19
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bumzohi giys06:20
Jucatoyuriy: technically, kwrite is a simplified wrapper around katepart :)06:20
yuriyJucato: is it part of kate? just that for some reason i recall not having it by default on herd 4, i wanted to make sure i wasn't saying something wrong to surgy06:20
bumzohow do i instal a .tar.gz file on kubuntu?06:20
Jucatoyuriy: it's part of kdebase06:20
AdydasGerald: i reccomend JED for what its worth as a text editor06:20
Jucatobumzo: that depends? is it source code? what are you trying to install?06:20
Adydasbumzo: gunzip it then untar it06:21
Adydasbut chances are apt-get may be far easyer06:21
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JucatoAdydas: no need for 2 separate processes. tar -xzvf takes care of both :D06:21
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Dr_willisi like 'fte' for a console editor.. of course mc and its mcedit is handy06:21
Adydasyou know, i know that.. but for some reason i still and will allways do it the other way06:21
bumzoam installing firefox mozilla06:21
Adydashow dumb..06:21
Adydasbumzo: sudo apt-get install firefox06:22
Jucatobumzo: you can install firefox from the repositories.06:22
ubotuunp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB06:22
bumzoi have downloaded the .tar.gz file ... its just sitting on my home folder06:22
Geraldthe error i get, even with kdesu, is...06:22
Dr_willisim real lazy and use 'unp'  :)06:22
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:22
bumzosomething wrong with my repository coz it wont install06:22
GeraldX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16806:22
Gerald  Major opcode:  14506:22
Gerald  Minor opcode:  306:22
Gerald  Resource id:  0x006:22
GeraldFailed to open device06:22
Jucato!pastebin | Gerald06:22
ubotuGerald: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:22
Adydasbumzo: ok kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:22
Dr_willisGerald,  thats the wacom tablet 'feature' that gets asked about soooooooo        many times. :)06:22
raylu Adydas, might want to ask for the error first06:23
Dr_willisGerald,  its just a warning.. dosetn affect anything06:23
Adydasthe past 4 people ive helped today have had the repos turned off by #s i was going to check that wasnt the case here first06:23
raylu oh06:23
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Geraldbut as often as i use the CLI to invoke text editors, my log file is going to file up with useless warnings06:23
Adydasif thats no the case, your suggestion was mine06:24
JucatoGerald: agreed. they're useless and harmless though06:24
bumzowow wow wow ....english guys .. am a rookie06:24
Geraldis there a way to prevent that warning?06:24
Adydasbumzo: open up a console06:24
Adydasand run the command06:25
Adydaskdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:25
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bumzosays ''unable to unlock the administration directory, is another process using it?''06:25
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: yes, mako said it was cute06:25
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surgyjucato: seams i have an account at your wiki allready :)06:25
Jucatosurgy: it's not my wiki :)06:25
Geraldwonders why anyone would use FF06:25
raylu bumzo, that's not an issue with your repositories. Do you have the add/remove programs thing open or adept?06:26
surgyjucato: our wiki*06:26
Adydasill say.. Opera06:26
xosshow do i update konqueror??06:26
surgybumzo: terminate anything using root and try again06:26
raylu xoss, to what?06:26
Geraldopera is nice but it's not free software06:26
bumzothats whn i run ''sudo agt-get install firefox'' from bumzo@bumzo:$06:26
Adydastrust you to be right raylu06:26
Adydasits not free?06:26
Dr_willisopera is free but not 'free' :)06:26
raylu huh?06:26
yuriyopera is what makes me not a FOSS zealot06:26
Dr_willisNo cost.. but not GPL.06:26
Geraldfree as in freedom is all i will use06:26
bumzoyes .,..and fireforx is greyed out as in disabled06:26
surgyfree means "freedom" guys not free of charge......06:26
Adydaso ok06:27
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Geraldlibre software is another term06:27
xossbetter yet how do i update my kubuntu 6.10...06:27
surgybumzo try closing everything and typing this in console: sudo apt-get install firefox06:27
Dr_willisI try to like opera.. but the more i use it.. the more i dont like it..06:27
bumzohow do i terminate everything using root?06:27
raylu bum06:27
raylu ack06:27
Adydasclose it06:27
surgybumzo: click the little x button06:27
raylu bumzo, you definitely don't want to do that.06:27
bumzothe console window is closed06:28
Dr_williswell bbl06:28
Jucatobumzo: is Adept or Add/Remove Programs still opened?06:28
yuriyxoss: when there are updates a little icon appears in your system tray06:28
jay_any one here runs "emesene"? Whhere can i get python2.4-gtk2?06:28
yuriyxoss: you click it, put in your password, and tell it to update06:28
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Geraldanyone know how to stop that stupid message from appearing when invoking kate from the CLI?06:29
raylu jay_, have you tried installing it with apt?06:29
JucatoGerald: comment out/remove the wacom entried in xorg.conf06:29
Geraldok, cool, thanks06:29
xossyuriy: how do i do it with apt??06:29
bumzook guys this gets interesting06:30
yuriyxoss: you mean command line?06:30
bumzoi closed everything06:30
bumzorane the command ''sudo apt-get install firefox06:30
xossyuriy: yes..06:30
bumzothis is what i got ..06:30
yuriyxoss: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade06:30
xossyuriy: thanks06:30
yuriyxoss: or even better aptitude instead of apt-get06:30
bumzo''reading package list ... done06:30
bumzobuilding dependancy tree .. .done06:31
Jucatoyuriy, xoss: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade06:31
Jucato!pastebin | bumzo06:31
ubotubumzo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:31
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yuriyJucato: my bad, i don't usually use the && (but it works without the extra sudo if you put in quotes)06:31
Jucatoyuriy: heheh :)06:32
bumzopackage firefox is notavailable, but is referred to by another package. this may mean that the package is missing, has been obsolete or is only available from another surce06:32
Adydassounds like repos..06:32
raylu copy paste is your friend06:32
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bumzohowever the following package replace it    libnss306:32
Geraldbumzo... it's an omen. you're meant to not use firefox06:32
Jucatoyuriy: btw, it seems that dist-upgrade is preferred to upgrade recently...06:32
bumzoe:package firefox has no installation candidate06:32
Geralddillo is calling you, bumzo06:32
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bumzobumzo@Bumzo :$06:33
Jucatobumzo: next time, don't paste multiple lines of text in the channel please. thanks06:33
Geraldwhere did that name come from, bumzo?06:33
yuriyJucato: that's usually for a development release.. or at least in the past for stable releases you only needed upgrade (i always do dist-upgrade myself, i guess i should stop telling people to do things other than what i use myself)06:33
raylu Gerald: ew! gtk!!06:33
Geraldhates dillo since it06:33
Geraldis featureless06:34
Jucatoyuriy: usually, yes. but Adept and Synaptic are configured to use dist-upgrade when you use the Full Upgrade feature (forgot the name in Synaptic)06:34
bumzook jucato .. i acltually typed out the error mesage from console :)06:34
yuriyGerald: i think you're missing the /me at the beginning of your messages ;)06:34
Geraldkonq seems to have too many config options06:34
raylu Too many? And opera doesn't?06:34
lunitikGerald: try Krusader or Dolphin (probably not part of Edgy though)06:35
Geraldoperas configs are more elegantly laid out in tabs06:35
bumzoso anyone with an idea of what i should do?06:35
Jucato!info dolphin06:35
Geraldbumzo, compile from source06:35
ubotudolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB06:35
lunitikGerald: ahh... scratch that... try Firefox... heh06:35
jay_not in the repos06:35
bumzogerald ... how do i do that06:35
yuriyjay_: python2.4-gtk2 is in the repos...06:35
bumzokeep in mind am a rookie06:35
yuriy!info python2.4-gtk2 | jay_06:35
ubotujay_: Package python2.4-gtk2 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas06:35
yuriyooh nvm lol06:35
Geraldbumzo, compiling from source is not rocket science06:35
yuriyit's in feisty06:35
raylu didn't someone say bumzo had a repos issue?06:36
bumzook ... how do i do that?06:36
Geraldthere are tons of articles out there on how to do it06:36
raylu I really don't think it's neccesary to compile FF from source...that's a bit overkill06:36
yuriy!info python2.3-gtk206:36
bumzoraylu? as in06:36
jay_except i'm running edgy06:36
ubotuPackage python2.3-gtk2 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas06:36
Geraldgo to the ubuntu forums and there are how-tos06:36
Jucato!info python-gtk206:36
ubotupython-gtk2: Python bindings for the GTK+ widget set. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1406 kB, installed size 5056 kB06:36
bumzoor should i just re install this whole thing...will that help?06:36
Jucatoyuriy: ^^^06:36
surgya few subtle changes to nvidia howto :)06:36
Jucatobumzo: no06:36
yuriyjay_: ^^^06:36
Jucato!pastebin | bumzo06:37
bumzoatleast in windows  that usually gets rid of alot of probs .. reinstall lol06:37
ubotubumzo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:37
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Geraldraylu, but FF compiled from source always runs faster, since you can add options for runtime you cant with the binary blob06:37
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jay_ Depends: python (>=2.4.2), python2.4 (>=2.4.3), python2.4-gtk2 (>=2.8.6), libgtk2.0-0 (>=2.8.20)06:37
Jucatobumzo: please use pastebin to show the contents of the /etc/apt/sources.list06:37
jay_that's the depends line for emesene06:37
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Geraldbumzo... that name sounds like a circus linux distro06:38
bumzohow will that help?06:38
yuriyjay_:where are you getting that package?06:38
Geralduse bumzo gnu/linux06:38
jay_http://emesene-msn.blogspot.com/ think that's the original site06:38
Jucatobumzo: so that we can see why your system can't find firefox06:38
bumzoafter all .. i have downloaded a tar.gz firefox someone help me install it06:38
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raylu what repository is needed for firefox anyway?06:39
Jucatobumzo: it will be more problematic and complicated to do it that way06:39
Jucatoraylu: just main06:39
Geraldtar xvfz "name_of_file"06:39
bumzook .. let me poste my source.list06:39
Geraldcd into extracted dir06:39
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Geraldrun installer06:40
Jucatosurgy: that's a bit inaccurate06:40
Geraldbumzo... so ff didnt come with your install?06:40
JucatoGerald: Firefox is not installed by default on Kubuntu06:41
Geraldbut why canot he just sudo apt-get install firefox06:41
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bumzogerald no06:41
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JucatoGerald: that's what we're trying to find out, if you haven't noticed06:41
surgyjucato: i saw that fixing now06:41
jay_search on ubuntuforums.org for python2.4 comes up empty06:41
bumzook guys ... posted my source list ...cn some one check it out for me please06:41
Jucatobumzo: can you give the URL?06:42
raylu bumzo: we're going to need the url...06:42
Jucato(the link)06:42
surgyjucato: check now?06:42
Geraldbumzo did you enable all of your sources?06:42
Jucatosurgy: reloading06:43
Jucatono wonder06:43
Geraldbumzo, perhaps you should do this... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   then you'll have firefox06:43
Jucatohow you have everything disabled06:43
bumzoeneble al lmy sources? how do i do that?06:43
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JucatoGerald: won't work06:43
bumzoahh ... brilliant. let me try06:44
Adydasdeleate the #s06:44
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Adydasfrom the front of the text with a website on it06:44
surgybumzo you have every repo turned off06:44
JucatoGerald: look at his sources.list06:44
bumzowait ... ubuntu or kubuntu???06:44
Jucatobumzo: remove the # for the lines that have "deb" at the beginning06:44
surgybumzo only remove the # in front of the deb06:44
Jucatobumzo: doesn't matter. Ubuntu and Kubuntu share the same repositories06:44
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raylu bumzo, you don't need to install ubuntu-desktop, do what Jucato said06:45
Geraldbumzo, why don't you just use ubuntu?06:45
Jucatobumzo: ok. do this. run this command: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:45
JucatoGerald: let's help him with what he needs for the moment, shall we?06:45
Geraldit might be simpler. dude06:45
bumzook .. .am at the source list06:45
JucatoGerald: if it's his decision to use Firefox on Kubuntu, let's respect that, shall we?06:45
Jucatobumzo: delete the # at the beginning of the lines with "deb"06:46
bumzo#deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted06:46
bumzoi remove the # ??06:46
raylu Yes06:46
raylu Hqhq06:46
Jucatobumzo: yes. but not from the deb-src06:46
raylu *Haha06:46
surgystop flooding06:46
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bumzook .. done06:47
Adydassave it06:47
bumzothen?...i save?06:47
Adydasand then06:47
Jucatobumzo: save06:47
Adydassudo apt-get update06:47
bumzothe document could not be saved06:47
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yuriyjay_: so it doesn't let you install it if you try right?06:47
Jucatobumzo: did you run "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" like I asaid?06:48
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Geralddid you use kdesu?06:48
bumzoas it was no t possible to write to file ///etc/apt/source.list06:48
Adydasid guess not06:48
surgyhe left out kdesu06:48
Geraldsomeone remote into bumzo's box already06:48
surgyor his permissions are messed up do to an oem install06:48
Jucatosurgy: um... still a bit.. um...06:49
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surgyjucato: how so?06:49
Adydashow do remote in anyway (like enable it)06:49
Jucatosurgy: might be better to instruct them to use kdesu kate instead of gksudo gedit in the wiki06:49
bumzojucato .. .i ran kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list now its saved06:49
underdog5004Gerald, that's a little extreme.06:49
Geraldthere's a how-to for remoting in on the KDE FAQs06:49
Adydassudo apt-get update06:49
surgyjucato: your right06:50
Jucatosurgy: just a suggestion06:50
bumzoit worked .. and its saved06:50
bumzonow waht?06:50
Adydassudo apt-get update06:50
Jucatobumzo: sudo apt-get update06:50
Jucatobumzo: then: sudo apt-get install firefox06:50
Geraldlet us pray...06:50
bumzoits connecting to au.archive.ubuntu.com ..06:51
Adydasawum its updateing for you bumzo06:51
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bumzoreading package list ... done06:51
Jucatosurgy: suggestion: make a note and the corresponding Kubuntu command for the places where gksudo gedit is mentioned. much easier that way than making an umbrella statement at the top06:51
bumzothink its done ... what next?06:52
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raylu kmenu  internet . firefox06:52
Adydassudo apt-get install firefox06:52
Jucatobumzo: ^^^06:52
raylu Adydas, I think he just ran that06:52
Adydasi think he ran the update..06:52
surgyjucato: i like leaving the implementation of the command semi concealed, so they have to try instead of copy/paste06:52
Jucatoraylu: he ran the update06:52
raylu ohz.06:52
Adydassudo apt-get install firefox06:53
bumzoits wroking i think06:53
Jucatosurgy: and I thought you wanted to make it newbie friendly?06:53
bumzodid alot of commands then asked me do you want to continue y/n06:53
bumzosaid y06:53
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raylu Jucato, newbie friendly or friendly to newbies? :P06:53
Jucatosurgy: also, giving the exact command will be less prone to error. rememer you are doing something as root... we try ti minimize errors as much as possible06:53
bumzo(thats after i did sudo apt-get install firefox)06:53
surgyjucato: more newbie friendly*      not completely stupid :)06:53
Jucatosurgy: let's not presume the level of experience of those reading the wiki06:54
Jucatospecially with a setup such as Kubuntu/Ubuntu06:54
Geraldbumzo is really RMS pretending06:54
surgyjucato: lol no ofense.... but im starting to see why more dont edit this thing06:54
Geraldi remember the first time i built gentoo from stage 1... talk about fear06:55
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Geraldand time...06:55
bumzoRMS pretending?06:55
Jucatosurgy: think of it this way, you and I might understand that, but that wiki isn't made for people with our experience.06:56
Jucatowe can't presume that everyone who will be reading that, Kubuntu users in particular, would actually know what to do06:56
bumzook can i ask a Qusetion?06:56
GeraldRMS is a free/libre software luninary. bumzo06:56
Jucatobumzo: finised installing?06:56
bumzonot yet ... 35%06:56
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Geraldhe wrote a lot of the software that made linux as a distro(s) possible06:56
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bumzoso who put the # ...coz i have never altered the source list06:56
Geraldcomes that way06:56
Jucatobumzo: ah Dapper...06:56
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surgyjucato: best if i revert it to how i found it then...... i understand your point, i was simply trying to add a few hints, not rewrite the thing06:57
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Jucatobumzo: in the Dapper installer, if you installed without an internet connection, it disables the sources.list entries06:57
goban i keep getting cannot talk to klauncher errors help?06:57
Jucatosurgy: no need to rewrite the thing06:57
bumzoahh ... thats makes sense06:57
Jucatolet me show you. don't revert anything yet, ok?06:57
Jucatosurgy: ^^^06:57
bumzoso how can i update everything ... now that am on the net???06:57
bumzocoz i cant play videos etc06:57
Geraldbumzo... after tonight, i highly recommend you read the kubuntu forums... lots of good info there. you'll save yourself lots of time typing in here06:58
geniiAny word on next LTS release? 8.04(or so, when Dapper LTS is done?)06:58
bumzogerlad ... fo sho i will06:58
Jucatogenii: no word yet06:58
bumzohow can i install limewirelinux.rpm?06:58
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surgyjucato: ok let me undo my revertion06:58
Jucatosurgy: don't!!!06:58
bumzojust downloaded it too .. and its sitting here06:58
JucatoI'm going to work on what you added06:58
surgyjucato: i was just fixing to click save.... i canceled06:59
surgyjucato: its how you aw it last time06:59
surgyalthough it still need kdesu and gksudo added06:59
Geraldbumzo, an RPM is not compatible with apt unless you download some stuff that would take you all night06:59
surgyto my parts at least06:59
goban i keep getting cannot talk to klauncher errors help?06:59
bumzoi'll pass06:59
Geraldfind a tar.gz install instead07:00
raylu bumzo, look for an alternate linux version of limewire07:00
bumzoso what P2P can i use on kubuntu?07:00
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire07:00
ubotuktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB07:00
surgyjucato: i really dont mind helping with the documentation07:00
raylu also, bumzo, the first time you try and play videos, it should walk you through getting the codecs07:00
raylu !linuxdcpp07:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linuxdcpp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:00
raylu :(07:00
Geraldbumzo is really the RIAA...07:01
Jucatosurgy: I know you don't. but when working with docs, we have to really consider a wide range of users with varying usage experiences07:01
raylu that works ^ but the binary is hard to find and the only other version is cvs07:01
Jucatosurgy: and your efforts and intentions are greatly appreciated :)07:01
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surgyjucato: if they werent i whouldnt try :)07:01
bumzoraylu... i downloaded limewireother.zip .... have no idea what to do with it to07:01
raylu bumzo, what is it supposed to be? you can right-click on it and open it with ark if you want07:01
surgybumzo: use your repos to get frostwire07:02
raylu bumzo, ignore that statement about the riaa =\07:02
raylu you really are confusing him =\07:02
surgybumzo: type sudo apt-get install frostwire   into a console07:02
bumzoit wil fetch it?....let me try07:03
raylu it'll fetch it, and more ;)07:03
bumzowait ... the firefox is stil linstalling .... should i open another consol?07:03
Geraldsomeone tell the poor guy about proxy servers before he starts dl'ing all of britnet spears albums07:03
surgybumzo, not to add to confusion but frostwire requires the latest jre07:03
gobanwhen i try to open any KDE apps i get something like this: http://pastebin.com/885665 please help07:03
surgybumzo no07:03
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surgygerald: why dont you?07:04
bumzook ... lemmi chill07:04
Geraldi will after he finshes07:04
bumzofirefox has finished07:04
bumzonow where do i get it??07:04
raylu KMenu > Internet >07:04
Adydastype firefox and hit enter07:04
Adydasor use the menus07:04
surgybumzo type sudo apt-get install frostwire07:04
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Geraldjre should be a dependency of frostwire, right?07:05
surgygoban: the first input device errors are normal07:05
Geraldso it should get it, true?07:05
raylu let apt-get deal with the dependency, yes07:05
gobansurgy: ah ok, how should i go about fixing?07:05
surgybut apt-get wont automaticly get jre07:05
raylu o.0?07:05
bumzoEUREKA ... i have firefox07:05
surgygoban are you familiar withopening and editing xorg?07:05
gobansurgy: somewhat07:06
raylu bum07:06
raylu zo =\ you win!07:06
bumzowait .. will i have to be opening console and typing firefox everytime i want to launch it??07:06
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raylu bumzo: KMenu > Internet >07:06
surgygoban ok open your xorg and find all the sections that have "device = wacom"07:06
bumzocant see it :(07:06
raylu though I find alt+F2> firefox easier07:06
raylu bumzo, Firefox isn't listed under Internet of KMenu?07:06
surgygoban and then coment those sections out using # at the beginning of every line in that section07:06
Geraldbumzo, you actually have to write an 800 line shell script before you can use FF07:06
raylu ...07:07
raylu ignore that too =\07:07
gobansurgy: that wont hurt beryl/gnome will it?07:07
surgygoban: a wacom is an input device for a tablet pc07:07
surgygoban if your not using a tablet you dont need a wacom07:07
gobangotcha thanks, ill do that brb07:07
Geraldpoor bumzo.... his fingers and brain arenumb after all this07:07
AdydasHey guys, ive put this together to attempt to help people set repos and update and install using apt-get after seeing / having hundreds of requests for help today, any comments. http://adydas.net/linux/repo-howto.txt07:08
raylu this could have taken a little less time if you hadn't said all those random things, you know07:08
gobandevice = wacom string not found07:08
surgygerald: you are counter productive a lot07:08
Geraldi installed gentoo as a newb and it took me 2 days....lol07:09
surgygoban: what?07:09
Geraldwhat a waste of time07:09
Jucatosurgy: check the page now to see what I mean07:09
surgygoban type this: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:09
surgyjucato hold please07:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:09
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Geraldbumzo, do you have a linux users group in your area?07:10
Jucatosurgy: also corrected some grammar/spelling stuff along the way...07:10
bumzono ... gerlald i dont07:10
Geraldwhere do you live?07:10
bumzobut i have u guys (Group hug)07:10
bumzoamd in EAST AFRICA kenya07:10
gobansurgy: oh so i comment out all sections with driver "wacom"?07:10
surgyjucato: yeah im not known to be a good speller :)07:10
raylu Haha. So, bumzo, are you sure Firefox doesn't appear under Internet of KMenu?07:10
Geraldoh, then again...07:10
surgygoban: yes07:10
Jucatooh darn I forgot07:10
Jucatobumzo: run this command in Konsole: kbuildsycoca07:11
surgygoban: make sure you get the whole section and not just the line07:11
Jucatobumzo: ignore the errors. that will update your K Menu and Firefox will appear07:11
bumzohey ... E: couldn't find package frostwire07:11
raylu !frostwire07:11
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire07:11
raylu o.007:11
Jucatofrostwire isn't in the repos, raylu07:11
gobanjeez there were 3 of em07:11
bumzoERROR no database available07:12
surgyjucato: you should look at adydas's howto, is there one like it on the wiki? if not adydas you should add it07:12
Geraldactually, disregard the riaa thing, raylu. he lives in kenya. he's immune07:12
bumzoEUREKA ... IT DID !!!!07:12
Jucatosurgy: there is, but it's more GUI oriented07:12
bumzoman u guys are good07:12
Jucato!repositories | surgy07:12
ubotusurgy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:12
Jucatosurgy: there are instructions for both Synaptic and Adept07:13
Geraldbumzo... you can tell all your friends you're now a linux hacker07:13
bumzolisten if u are ever in africa ... give me a shout wil lshow u guys around. maasai mara wildlife etc07:13
Jucatojust tell them what a hacker really is07:13
Adydassurgy: Thanks, im going to.. Im currently writing a few more.. Nvidia drivers,07:13
bumzothe think am a king now of some sort07:13
Geraldbumzo... any cute girls in your neighborhood?07:14
surgyadydas: to be honest nvidia is great you should work on the ATI one07:14
raylu Gerald get's right to the point :P07:14
bumzoLOTS ...with big shapely bootie07:14
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bumzoblack love reigns07:14
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raylu all of a sudden, instead of going off on a tangent at every step07:14
surgygoban: you got those commented out?07:14
Jucatogetting offtopic here... and a bit... um...07:14
ForgeAushey all :)07:14
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Geraldi'm looking for a cute girl late 20s07:14
bumzochicks here have what i call ''onion asses''07:14
ForgeAusJucato should the root drive be mounted in fstab?07:14
bumzo...makes a grown man cry!!!07:14
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic07:14
lestatI need to import a contact list into kopete for MSN.07:15
JucatoForgeAus: you mean the / partition? yes07:15
ForgeAusand/or does the order matter?07:15
lestatI can't find anything to tell me how to di this though.07:15
raylu lestat, logging in doesn't work?07:15
lestatLogging in?07:15
JucatoForgeAus: order doesn't matter07:15
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raylu lestat, use Kopete to login to MSN...it should have all your contacts downloaded from the server07:15
Jucatolestat: when you login to your MSN account in Kopete, your contacts are already there07:15
lestatI have an account and I wish to move my old contacts to this new account.07:15
lestat*a new account07:15
ForgeAusum jucato my kubuntu partition is on /dev/sdb2 which is also in my fstab...07:15
dawnyou know after using ubuntu now for months, its kinda boring ins some respects; typically as windows has issues it livens up my day somwhat07:16
JucatoForgeAus: ok... what's the problem?07:16
Geraldcompiles a new girlfriend....07:16
surgygoban: you have to restart xwindows after you comment those and save you xorg...... but i whould recomend restarting the comp, it seams smoother that way07:16
ForgeAusfsck comes up saying /dev/sdb2 is already mounted07:16
ForgeAusand quits with an operational error (8)07:16
dawn "sudo apt-get upgrade boyfriend"07:16
Jucatodawn: have you explored every nook and cranny? every package possible? every new technology? every new method? customized to death?07:16
bumzook .. one more ... frostwire07:16
bumzohow do i intal it ... pleeese07:16
Geraldfsck... when is linux going to go to soft updates like the BSDs?07:17
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dawnjucato, *h3ll* no07:17
ForgeAusand starts a recovery shell instead of booting to gui07:17
bumzoraylu ... what should i do07:17
Jucatodawn: then you still have lots of things to do to keep you occupied, without the viruses :)07:17
raylu !frostwire | bumzo07:17
ubotubumzo: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire07:17
ForgeAusGerald what do you mean soft updates?07:17
Jucatobumzo: did you read the page linked ^^^^07:17
raylu i've never installed frostwire before07:17
lestatJucato: Any idea?07:17
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dawni was on some pron sites last night trying to break my machine07:17
dawnwith spyware07:17
lestatI don't have to use Kopete to import them...07:17
Jucatolestat: no, not really. I only have 1 msn...07:17
lestatBut Gaim doesn't do it either...07:18
Geraldforge... fask is antiquated in the BSDs now... they use soft updating...07:18
ForgeAusdawn I don't recommend doing that07:18
Jucatodawn: Linux lets you think of more creative ways to break your machine :)07:18
bumzolemmi read it07:18
surgydawn: and your complaining? thats your expensive machine wont break?07:18
Geralddawn... shame on you...porn....does your mother know?07:18
dawnsure I can break my machine a multitude of ways07:18
ForgeAusI gotta go buy some stamps brb07:19
dawnGerald: Mother is passed07:19
Geraldwell, God knows....07:19
Geraldhello, bumzo07:19
surgydawn change your root pw to 1 and open all your firewall ports and broadcast it on every blog you can think of07:19
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Geralddawn... i'll just take your IP address... nessus and nmap can do the rest07:20
Tm_TI think that is slipping to offtopic ;)07:20
Geraldhe was joking... all in good fun07:20
Tm_TI know.07:20
Geraldbumzo, let's talk about linux in kenya...alot of users?07:21
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Tm_TBut I think in the middle of your conversation there was some real questions ;)07:21
surgygerald i wasnt07:21
raylu maybe Tm_T is from the RIAA :P07:21
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Geraldbumzo is really ESR07:22
surgywell if no one can learn from my limited knowledge on this subject then i should leave07:22
bumzolinux in kenya is picking up07:22
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Geraldthat's great, bumzo07:22
Geraldare you in university?07:23
dawn_well darn I got dcc'd07:23
Geralddawn... penance for surfing pr0n07:23
bumzoi love this os07:23
ubotuThere are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit07:23
bumzowhere u from gerald?07:23
bumzono ... i run my own cyber ... want to do my masters though in july @ australia07:23
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Geraldbumzo, just remember, linux is not an OS, it's a kernel only07:24
raylu oh geez, gerald =\07:24
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raylu it's good enough to call it an os07:24
Geraldsorry, RMS coming out in me07:24
raylu !linux07:24
ubotuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux07:24
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Geraldbumzo, you need to really read up on a man named Ricahrd Stallman. Take what he says are the absolute truth.07:25
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crazy_busI download a kpresenter file.  Is openoffice capable of opening it?07:26
Jucatocrazy_bus: if it's an .odp, then yes.07:27
raylu crazy_bus, you could just try...07:27
bumzowho is richard Stallman??07:27
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bumzois he the ''bill gates'' of kubuntu? lol07:27
Jucatobut try. oo.o might be able to open it07:27
crazy_busits a .kpr file07:27
Jucatobumzo: no. please do a Google search if you're interested. thanks :)07:27
Geraldbumzo, richard stallman founded the free software foundation.07:28
Geraldgo read the link i posted07:28
Adydasso its defantly not bill gates then :p07:28
Geraldhe's a brilliant guy07:28
surgyjucato: whats the chances of a "Script kiddie" or other retard scanning my network block and finding a voulnerability in my kubuntu's stock security features?07:28
Tm_Tsurgy: Not that big.07:28
Geraldsurgy, not likely if you have a firewall running nat07:29
Geraldas you should have07:29
surgybumzo: the "billgates of kubuntu" is Linus Torvalds07:29
Jucatosurgy: almost zero, even if you don't have a firewall07:29
Tm_Tsurgy: By default, there should be no holes because there's no walls either. :)07:29
Jucatosurgy: that is not correct07:29
surgyjucato: i have a hardware firewall07:29
Geraldlinksys router?07:29
Jucatosurgy: the the chances are even smaller07:29
crazy_busits just comes up with a filter selection.  And I couldn't see kpresenter in it07:29
surgy2wire router/adsl modem07:29
Geraldrunning nat?07:29
surgyjucato: should i be worried? or instance if my ip was obtained in an irc room?07:30
bumzogerald where u @?07:30
Jucatosurgy: no07:30
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Geraldi'm in Texas, bumzo07:30
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Kite_DHwhat was the cmd to update my system?07:31
Kite_DHsudo apt-get upgrade ?07:31
Kite_DHor sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?07:31
JucatoKite_DH: sudo apt-get update07:31
Jucatothen sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:31
surgyjucato: ok i find it easy to get cought up in the hype of people rotating ips 10 times and hour and switching ips with there buddies and stuff to make it harder07:31
Jucatothose two almost always go together07:31
Kite_DHdoes that work for fedora core too?07:31
JucatoKite_DH: no07:31
Tm_TJucato: dist-upgrade should be used with high caution.07:31
Adydasyum is used for fedora07:31
Geraldno... it can, but they use yum07:32
JucatoTm_T: dist-upgrade is the default action for Adept and Synaptic07:32
Geraldyou can dl apt for fedora, tho07:32
Kite_DHkk, my friend was asking07:32
Tm_TJucato: Still.07:32
surgykite_DH: fedora uses yum07:32
Tm_TJucato: Because it can remove stuff, for people who doesn't look what they do, it's dangerous.07:32
Kite_DHsurgy: how can he update then?07:32
Geraldand apt07:32
surgykite_DH: who?07:32
Kite_DHsurgy: my friend just installed FD6.007:32
Geraldkite.... yum check update07:32
JucatoTm_T: only when you're using Adept. apt-get and Synaptic will ask for your confirmation first and notify you07:33
surgykite_DH: tell him to go to #fedora07:33
Tm_TJucato: So just add "but look what it asks" and they'll be fine. ;)07:33
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Jucatoplay nice people07:33
Tm_TTo work, have fun. ->07:33
Geraldi still prefer the tgz based updating like the BSDs07:33
Geraldeven tho linux is nicer to live in07:34
surgyjucato: whats that mean "play nice people" was that pointed at me?07:34
Geraldsurgy... you paranoid?07:34
surgygerald: i came from windows xp about 3 months ago..... do you really have to ask that?07:34
Geraldi came from max os x and before that os 9 and 807:35
juliohow are you07:35
surgyjulio: im fine and yourself?07:35
Kite_DHsurgy: how can i move files in terminal?07:35
Geraldi've been using linux since 98 on and off, tho07:35
Geraldkite... man the mv command07:35
bumzogerlald .. they say everything is BIG in texas07:36
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Geraldman mv07:36
surgyktie_DH: cp [file directory]   [directory to copy to] 07:36
Kite_DHhow can i move my entire DVD via cmd?07:36
Geraldcp copies, mv moves and renames... use mv07:36
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surgykite_dh: example: cp /media/movie  /media/kitemovie07:36
Geraldbumzo, things are big in texas07:36
julioi have  aquestion frien07:36
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Kite_DHthank you07:36
surgy!ask | julio07:37
ubotujulio: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:37
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Geraldthe only thing in texas that isn't big is my paycheck07:37
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Geraldnot enough linux in texas if you ask me07:37
surgy!offtopic | gerald07:37
ubotugerald: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:37
bumzolol @ gerald07:38
premier_My external hard drive has been turning off for no reason while in use, especially as its just starting up07:38
bumzook .. one more thing please07:38
bumzohow do i install java07:38
premier_Im worried that its going to be destroyed07:38
bumzocan i get it from the repository?07:38
surgypremier_: sounds like power failure look into your power settings07:38
premier_bumzo: I think you have to go to the sun website07:38
Geraldthat i don't know, bumxo... i don't use any non-free software... ask one of these esteemed people in here07:38
surgypremier_: if its not allready destroyed*07:38
julioihave a tv card that ibeen using with windows but idont no how usit on linux anybody can helpme07:39
surgybumzo: let me get the package name07:39
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premier_surgy: its still accessable, but theres nowhere I could backup all that data.  It has its own powersource (it plugs into the wall)07:39
Geraldwow... tv card under linux... i think democracy tv has some stuff on getting them to work under linux07:39
surgybumzo: type sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre07:39
Geraldbumzo is on a roll07:40
surgypremier_: i dont know then sorry07:40
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tvtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:40
AdydasTop 3 things you feel you help people with here people. what are they? apt-get anything else?07:40
Gretljulio what programm have you tried?07:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:40
gobani keep getting cannot talk to klauncher errors please help, heres error: http://pastebin.com/88566507:41
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gobanand whoever told me to edit out all wacom lines in xorg.conf made x not start, and i had to revert it with the live CD :(07:41
surgyadydas: write a how to on apple ipod and amarok the current ones suck07:41
Adydasuse the backup07:41
AdydasWicked, i have an ipod and amarok07:41
Gretli use tvtime or kdetv works fine07:41
bumzosoon .. i'll be having a one on one with ubotu ;)07:41
gobandidnt know how to change the name of the backup in bash07:41
surgygoban: then you edited something you shouldnt have07:42
Adydasmay i help07:42
gobanAdydas: sure :) ill paste my xorg.conf07:42
surgygo for it adydas07:42
Adydasits a work in progress but use that to rename the backup file to the correct file07:42
gobansurgy: maybe i did sorry07:42
surgygoban: not a problem07:42
AdydasIts a work in progress so dont be to hard07:42
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surgygoban post and then ill edit it and post back so all you have to do is copy/paste it over your old xorg07:43
juliothanks friends07:43
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bumzocouldn't find package sun-java6-jre07:43
surgybumzo: you have a repo blocked still07:44
Jucatobumzo: you need to enable the dapper-backports repository in sources.list07:44
bumzoso how do i ''unblock''07:44
surgyfollow adydas's repo guide :)07:44
Geraldgoban, when you edit a config file. always make a backup before doing so.... cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig07:44
Geraldthat way you're safe07:45
Kite_DHsurgy: ..hey it doesnt work coz in the name is a <space>       -----> media:/hda/Mini Moni Chiccha~ 001- 015 (2000-10-15 to 2001-04-29)07:45
bumzojucato ... how do i do taht?07:45
Jucatobumzo: same way we did earlier07:45
surgykite_DH: you have to remove the spaces and never name anything with a space again :)07:45
gobanGerald: i did, but i didnt know how to change the backup to the real via command line07:45
Adydasi may need to add more info but still07:45
gobansurgy: much thanks BTW07:45
gobani thought i did what you said but i must have messed it up07:46
surgygoban its easy to restore backup07:46
bumzowhat was the command line again? kdu....something something07:46
Adydasbumzo: http://adydas.net/linux/repo-howto.txt07:46
Geraldcp it back cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:46
Admiral_Chicagohey Jucato do you know anything about python errors in dapper07:46
Adydasits about 6 lines down07:46
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: sorry, no07:46
Kite_DHsurgy: hmm....07:46
surgygoban ill edit it and put it back on pastebin for you :)07:46
bumzothe command to get to the sourvce list07:47
Geraldsurgy wants his shadow file as well...07:47
Admiral_Chicagodamn, i have this machine that is being odd07:47
Jucatobumzo:  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:47
Geraldbumzo has become the consummate hacker in here07:47
surgygerald..... i dont hack07:47
gobani cded to /etc/X11/ and rm xorg.conf, but i diddnt know how to change xorg.conf.backup to xorg.conf07:47
Geraldsurgy... crackers crack, hackers write code and tinker07:48
gobanah Gerald just adi above NM07:48
surgygerald: and i dont do anything07:48
bumzobefore u know it .. i will develpo kubumzo kernel lol07:48
Admiral_Chicagocrackers attempt to crack code. hackers try to improve it.07:48
bumzojucato ...am there ... so how do i do it?07:48
Admiral_Chicagoofftopic though07:48
Jucatobumzo: look for the line with "dapper-backports"07:48
Geraldgoban, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:49
jbruckman!"orphaned control module"07:49
gobanGerald: yes thanks :)07:49
Jucatobumzo: then remove the # at the beginning of that line with "deb"07:49
Geraldare welcome07:49
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Adydasbumzo: i highly reccomend you check out http://adydas.net/linux/repo-howto.txt07:49
bumzodone and saved07:49
Geraldgoban, make another copy before you edit it again...07:50
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Geraldcall it orig, not backup07:50
Jucatobumzo: sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre07:50
jbruckmandoes anyone know about the module loading error in the system settings, where it gives the diagnosis as either an orphaned module, or old third party modules?07:50
Geraldthat way you know it's the actual original from the install07:50
bumzoupdating jucato07:51
surgyjucato will you look at goban's xorg for me? i cant see what he messed up that whould keep it from starting07:51
bumzoare u on msn or yahoo jucato?07:51
Admiral_Chicagojbruckman: sudo dpkg-reconfingure -phigh xserver-xorg07:51
Admiral_Chicagothat may help.07:51
jbruckmanAdmiral_Chicago: thanks.07:51
gobansurgy: thats not the changed one, thats the origional.  the changed one i just commented out all lines in sections that had wacom as driver07:52
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Kite_DHwhy does it stop copying at 91%?? :(07:52
Kite_DHall the time07:52
Kite_DHon every file over 500MB07:52
Kite_DHfrom DVD to HD07:52
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surgygoban oh ok let me change it for you07:52
bumzoITS WORKED JUCATO .... installing07:53
jbruckmangave me an error.07:53
bumzogerald .. .see the way am on a roll07:53
Admiral_Chicagojbruckman: it's a python error07:53
Geraldlol@bumzo... you're the consummate hacker now07:53
jbruckmanjbruckman@pyschosis:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfingure -phigh xserver-xorg07:53
bumzogerald ,... u thee?07:53
jbruckmansudo: dpkg-reconfingure: command not found07:53
jbruckmanjbruckman@pyschosis:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg07:53
jbruckmanxserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been07:53
jbruckman   customized07:53
jbruckmanxserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration07:53
jbruckman   file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2007022100532507:53
Geraldhere, bumzo07:53
bumzonow ... how do i install a .deb file?07:53
Jucato!pastebin | jbruckman07:53
ubotujbruckman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:53
Admiral_Chicagojbruckman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285266&page=2&highlight=orphaned+module07:53
Geraldalmost time to hit the hay07:53
Admiral_Chicagojbruckman: follow the link Jucato gave :)07:54
Geraldgotta work in the am07:54
Jucatobumzo: is that .deb package not in the repositories?07:54
jbruckmanJucato: apologies.07:54
bumzono ... its the frostwire i just downloaded07:54
Admiral_Chicagobumzo: sudo dpkg -i *.deb....but it's most likely in the repos (the suggested way)07:54
Geraldbumzo's gonna get him so free music07:54
bumzogerlad ... tahnks alot for everything guy07:54
Admiral_Chicagofrostwire is in the repos07:54
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: um.. it isn't07:54
bumzoyeah ...07:55
Geraldnp, bumzo... i didn't do much...lol07:55
surgygoban: almost done buddy07:55
Geraldenjoy your free music07:55
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: oh right, i recall know07:55
Admiral_Chicagojbruckman: sudo aptitude reinstall kde-guidance07:55
bumzoadmiral .. u sure?07:55
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Geraldand don't worry about the riaa in africa07:55
bumzoyeah its not ... but i have downloaded it07:55
Geraldyou're untouchable07:55
Admiral_Chicagobumzo: no it's not in the repos07:55
bumzoso how do i install it?07:55
bumzoits on my sesktop07:56
Jucatobumzo: in Konqueror, you can right-click on the .deb -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package. I believe the frostwire wiki page has instructions for all of these07:56
Kite_DHcan somebody help me?07:56
Admiral_Chicago00:54 < Admiral_Chicago> bumzo: sudo dpkg -i *.de07:56
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:56
Geraldkite...what do you need?07:56
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Kite_DHi already asked07:56
Geraldask again07:56
surgybumzo: once again is there not a repo package for frostwire?07:56
Geraldi missed it07:56
Admiral_Chicagonot when I was around07:56
Admiral_Chicagosurgy: no it's not.07:56
bumzoadmiral ... that will pick the deb file from the desktop or it needs to be in the root folder07:57
bumzoconfirmed surgy... there is none07:57
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Kite_DHthe problem is that everytime i want to copy files from a DVD to my HD that are 500MB+ it runs to about 80-90% and stalls...then it doesnt continue...07:57
gobansurgy: thanks :) ive just been using linux for a week so im not really familiar with xorg.conf yet07:57
Geraldbumzo... tell all your friends you're now a kernel hacker working for Linus Torvalds07:57
Admiral_Chicagobumzo: right click it, install package. if you type that in a konsole do: cd Desktop && sudo dpkg -i *.deb && rm *.deb07:57
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Geraldkite... is your HD full or is the partition full?07:58
Kite_DH227GB space left07:58
surgygoban: ok here it is http://www.pastebin.ca/365807     see how i comented the three sections for wacom? and the three at top?07:58
Geraldi guess not07:58
Geraldwhere are you copying it to?07:59
Kite_DHcuz i want it on my HD not on a DVD07:59
Geralddo you have permissions to write to that dir?07:59
gobansurgy: OHHHH i missed the 3 at top07:59
gobanty :)07:59
jbruckmanAdmiral_Chicago: thanks. fixed.08:00
Geraldbumzo, what time is it in africa right now?08:00
Admiral_Chicagojbruckman: kde guidance?08:00
Kite_DHyes i do08:00
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Kite_DHand with terminal it doesnt work coz the name has space in it08:01
Geraldkite... so it copies and then quits at the same percentage every time08:01
Kite_DHand i cant rename files on a DVD08:01
surgygoban :)08:01
Kite_DHyes, always about 80-90%08:01
surgykite_DH: whats your prob?08:01
Geraldkite... no worries, just hit tab for auto complete08:01
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Kite_DHwhat do you mean08:01
jbruckmanAdmiral_Chicago: yeah08:01
Kite_DHwell lemme give u example08:02
surgykite_DH: you need to rename the file08:02
Geraldsurgy... not true08:02
Geraldi've done it without renaming08:02
surgygerald: everything is easier without spaces08:02
JucatoKite_DH: start typing the filename, then Press Tab to autocomplete the filename08:02
Kite_DHGerald: i want "media:/hda/Akira Soundtrack"  to "home/atchen/desktop"08:02
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Geraldkite... is there DRM on that disk?08:02
surgythen cp those dirs using tab08:03
Kite_DHwhats DRM08:03
gobansurgy: ill let you know if it works :))08:03
Geraldcopy prevention software onboard the DVD08:03
bumzohey ... i right clicked the froswire.deb08:03
Geraldsome really new DVDs cannot be copied.... period08:03
bumzokubuntu package menu08:03
Geralddigital rights management, kite08:03
bumzoasked for a pasword08:03
surgygoban: best of luck08:03
bumzothat should work right?08:03
Geraldevil capitalist garbage08:03
Kite_DHGerald: smaller files work, but 500BM+ not08:04
juliokworld tv card with pvr plus programm08:04
jbruckmanyay. i love that i can log in as root now.08:04
Kite_DHGerald: i copied like 200MB files08:04
jbruckmani was lost and frightened without my su command.08:04
Geraldbut are they still copied over?08:04
Geraldare they on the HD?08:04
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Kite_DHthe small files yes08:04
juliohowi can do to runn to08:04
Admiral_Chicagothats the proper English for it08:04
Kite_DHthe big files stop at 80-90%08:05
Geraldadmiral...evil capitalist garbage08:05
Geraldthat's what it is08:05
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raylu Kite_DH, are you sure your HD is large enough to hold it?08:05
Geralddrm is capitalist garbage08:05
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juliosurgy help me amigo08:05
Kite_DHraylu: i have like 230GB space left08:05
raylu oh.08:05
Geraldmore than enough08:06
surgyjulio: whats the problem man?08:06
Geraldis the disk corrupt of scratched?08:06
Admiral_Chicagodrm being called "rights" is propaganda that companies use.08:06
juliothe tv card08:06
Kite_DHits perfect08:06
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Kite_DHjust burned it08:06
Geraldadmiral... i agree... evil capitalist companies08:06
raylu hm...there is a way to create rar files with winrar that split the file up into sections; perhaps there is something similar for ark08:06
juliokworld tv card08:06
surgyjulio: i cant help you man, i dont know anything about them, you will have to read, ill give you a link08:07
surgy!help | julio08:07
ubotujulio: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:07
juliogracias amigo08:07
Geralddenada, senhor08:07
surgyjulius: no prob08:08
surgygerald: you are really not helping08:08
juliono hay problema08:08
Geraldlol... it's late and i'm tired...08:08
Gretli would just istall a tv programm first08:08
Gretltvtime for example08:08
surgyjulio: en englesh please08:09
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juliono problem08:09
surgygretI: the reason jolio asks me is becuase he doesnt know english very well08:09
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surgygretI: so its hard for him to understand is there a spanish kubuntu room?08:10
julioand idon know ingles mi amigo08:10
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:10
gobansurgy: cool less errors now :) jsut abotu 15 ktorrent: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Cannot talk to klauncher08:10
ubotujulio: please see above08:10
ForgeAusso nobody knows how to use Xephyr and/or Xnest08:10
juliogracias amigos08:11
surgygoban: i cant help with those and gratzs08:11
ForgeAussofar all I get is an unuxable blank X-Server...08:11
Geraldgoodnight all...08:11
ForgeAusgrr  unusable08:11
Geraldtime to go to sleep08:11
Gretlkk but its easy to install - and has a channel search function then we will know more ;)08:11
Gretl!tvtime | julio08:11
ubotujulio: tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB08:11
gobansurgy: k ty anyways!08:11
surgygoban: np08:11
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gobanwhen i startup ktorrent i get 15 ktorrent: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Cannot talk to klauncher errors, can anyoen help?08:11
ForgeAusdithered grey screen with a black x cursor...08:12
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surgyforgeaus: kde isnt launching properly?08:12
Admiral_Chicagojbruckman: same here bro. sleep08:12
ForgeAussurgy yeah that08:12
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jbruckmanAdmiral_Chicago: night.08:12
Jucatosweet dreams Admiral_Chicago08:12
ForgeAusbut this is inside Xephyr its not my main X-server its a nested one08:12
raylu !seen raylu08:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seen raylu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:13
raylu T.T08:13
Kite_DH!kite's mother08:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kite's mother - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:13
surgyforgeaus: i cant help08:13
Kite_DH:D aight08:13
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...08:13
ForgeAussurgy thanx anyway08:13
ForgeAusis there anything you can do from a "blank" X-Server?08:14
ForgeAusno clicking anywhere seems to work08:14
surgyforgeaus: i whould suggest a reinstall, you have you backups in hand right? :)08:14
JucatoForgeAus: switch to Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"08:14
ForgeAusJucato does that work from within a nested server?08:15
Jucatooh? it's a nested X server?08:15
Jucatoah Xephyr08:15
surgyjucato: he's screwed?08:15
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Jucatohm.. let me scroll up08:15
ForgeAusthat wasn't such a good idea!08:15
ForgeAusnow I ca't see anything!08:15
raylu by the way...is there a way to change kdesu's password?08:15
surgywhats up?08:16
JucatoForgeAus: what are you trying to do again?08:16
uboturaylu: Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords08:16
Jucatoraylu: kdesu uses sudo, which asks for the user's password08:16
Jucato(presuming the user is part of the "admin" group)08:16
Jucato(which the first user created as install is)08:16
raylu so...sudo passwd?08:16
Jucatoraylu: er no08:16
raylu wait a sec, that makes no sense08:17
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surgythere is a file somewhere i cant rememeber where08:17
Jucatokdesu in Kubuntu will always ask for the current user's password08:17
raylu oh08:17
raylu so there's no way to change it?08:17
surgyjucato: he wants the file with the passwords in it so he can change the root password08:17
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raylu no, I don't want to change root's password08:17
Kite_DHwell...my stuff stays on DVD then08:17
raylu just kdesu.08:17
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surgyraylu: same file for every user08:18
Jucatosurgy: kdesu uses sudo in Kubuntu. sudo never asks for the user's password08:18
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raylu but...sudo does...08:18
surgyjucato: ahhh08:18
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Jucatoyou can only make kdesu use a different password if: 1) you enable the root user (not recommended) and 2) create a config file that will make kdesu use su instead of sudo08:19
Jucatoraylu: what are you confused about?08:19
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raylu oh, I see.08:19
raylu oh...that's why root was disabled to begin with08:20
surgyraylu: why do you want to do this?08:20
raylu not for any particular reason.08:20
surgykite_DH: try a cd ripping program08:20
raylu one of the first things I tried was su and, when that didn't work, I enabled root :P08:20
surgyraylu: then i whould suggest to leave it alone08:20
Jucatoraylu: Kubuntu disables root by default. so it's senseless to make kdesu use su which would ask for the root password, since there is no root password.08:21
raylu Oh. I changed the root password already :P Don't worry, I'm going to leave kdesu the way it is08:21
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surgyjucato: is there an outlook express for kubuntu?08:22
raylu Thunderbird, Kontact08:22
raylu (don't use kontact, it's evil)08:22
Jucatoraylu: Kontact08:22
raylu ?08:23
raylu ooh, another question. what happens if i use: chmod -x chmod?08:23
surgybut those will comunicate with openoffice and work the same way? my mom is in internet school, and they are heavily dependant on outlook08:23
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surgyraylu: it takes execute permission away08:23
Jucatocommunicate with openoffice?08:23
raylu um....openoffice doesn't include or have anything to do with pop e-mail that I know of08:24
Jucatono it won't. you don't have access to the chmod file normally08:24
raylu surgy, it would take them away on chmod...which is required to get them bac, right?08:24
Kite_DHsurgy: which cd ripping prog?08:24
surgyjucato: getting late...... outlookexpress*08:24
raylu *back08:24
ubotuTo rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh08:24
JucatoKite_DH: ^^^08:24
raylu why would kontact/thunderbird be running at the same time as outlook express?08:24
surgykite_DH: kaudiocreater08:25
JucatoKite_DH: basically, Konqueror, KAudioCreator, Amarok, and K3b (I think)08:25
Kite_DHbut its not audio file08:25
surgyjucato: i mean she wont have a problem comunicating with her class mates if everyone else uses ooutlook?08:25
JucatoKite_DH: CD ripping = convert Audio CD content to <insert media format here>08:25
raylu hm...I must go soon08:25
Jucatosurgy: that I don't know...08:25
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Jucatoor had no need to08:26
surgyme either08:26
raylu surgy, I doubt it. as long as it restricts itself to e-mail08:26
surgybut the school requires it08:26
raylu *you're restricting it to e-mail08:26
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surgyno i need something fully compatible with outlook express08:26
raylu ...what do they do with outlook besides e-mail?08:26
sampandoes OE run under wine?  :X08:27
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ForgeAusthat was a mess08:27
sampansomehow that seems like an abomination, but ...08:27
ForgeAusgoing to the other terminal screen wasn't so bad08:27
ForgeAusgetting back was aweful!08:27
surgyraylu: group prjects uploading downloading sharing hell ive never used i dont know, i do know it has to be 100% compatible08:27
ForgeAusdidn't want to repaint the screen properly08:27
Jucatosurgy: what do you mean by "communicating" and "compatible" with outlook epxress?08:27
raylu wtf...since when did outlook do all that?08:27
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raylu reading news feeds, surgy?08:28
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surgyjucato: i mean able to send and receive files. dialogue assignments progress reports from kontact back to outlook and vice versa08:28
surgyraylu: im assuming08:28
Jucatosurgy: in what format? I'm presuming those are just e-mails w/ attachments?08:28
Jucatobut I'm not so familiar anyway, best bet would be to ask in #kontact08:29
raylu or news feeds; I remember outlook did that too08:29
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surgyjucato: i will have to educate myself....... i just assumed there was a program that cloned outlook....... ill learn and get back with you08:29
ForgeAusalso my Nero D/L was halfway through which is probably corrupted/half-done/damaged by now...08:29
ForgeAusguess I should overwrite it08:29
ForgeAus10 meg08:29
Jucatosurgy: take note that Kontact isn't really an *exact* equivalent of Outlook, because whereas Outlook is just one app, Kontact is made of separate apps integrated into one app08:29
raylu hm...well, g'bye everyone.08:30
ForgeAusis the latest nero for linux? I thought nero was v 6 or so (at least in windows)08:30
Jucatosurgy: fortunately, dependency on Outlook has never happened to me :D08:30
surgyjucato: noted08:30
JucatoKontact can use KMail, KOrganizer, Akregator, KNotes, Basket, Karm, etc08:31
Jucatohm.. brb..08:31
Jucato94.6 F...08:31
surgyjucato: no good for me08:31
surgy <surgy> is kontact 100% compatible with outlookexpress?08:31
surgy[01:31]  <Bille> surgy: probably not08:31
Jucatosurgy: I know, I'm there08:31
Jucatobut like he said, we don't really know what you mean by08:31
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surgyi know08:33
surgyi will learn and come back08:33
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surgyi have to go to bed08:33
surgygood night08:33
surgynice chatting again jucato08:33
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Gtwyis there a way to specify in the sudoers file SPECIFIC commands to allow a user to run as sudo08:49
Gtwynot just programs08:49
LynoureGtwy: tried  man sudoer  already?08:49
Gtwyeverything seems to point to programs08:50
Gtwylike giving access to /etc/init.d/apache08:50
Gtwyi only want to give access to a full command08:50
LynoureGtwy: you can make scripts out of the specific command, and give access to just that08:50
GtwyLynoure: not a bad idea08:51
LynoureYou are welcome :)08:51
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ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org08:52
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ForgeAushehe superkarumba is kewl08:59
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ForgeAusis gnomes equivalent gdesklets?09:00
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JucatoForgeAus: yes09:02
ForgeAusthats kewl I like superkarumba way better09:02
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liviuxhi all friends. how can I solve the back replie message "the utility is not in your path" from bash when I try to open one archive file??09:07
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bumzoguys .. .am back09:08
bumzoneen help09:08
bumzowho in here has installed frostwire?09:09
fdovingliviux: what type of archive?09:09
bumzoi have rightclicked on the .dep file ...said install09:09
bumzoasked for password09:09
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bumzostarts installing ... then hangs at ''setting up frostwire pres <enter> to exit...''09:09
nomad111does any1 here kno any circuit analysis programs09:10
bumzowhat does that mean?09:10
liviuxIt's a .rar but I'm sorry now it work. I had need "unrar" utility...thank you :)09:10
fdovingnomad111: ktechlab, klogic, ksimus for example.09:10
Jucatobumzo: sorry, no experience with frostwire09:10
bumzowell .. how else can one install a .deb file?09:11
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Jucatobumzo: er. that means it's done09:12
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ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire09:12
Lynourebumzo: from the command line, e.g.  sudo dpkg --install packagename09:12
Jucatoum.. guys, it's installed already09:13
Jucato<bumzo> starts installing ... then hangs at ''setting up frostwire pres <enter> to exit...'' <--- it means, it's done setting up, and press Enter to close the window09:13
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piro_what apt-get do you use to get emacs on kubuntu?09:15
djdarkman1000     10260 59.2  0.0   2544   376 ?        Rs   Feb19 1362:13 /usr/bin/env bash??if [ "$1" = "--kinetd" ] ; then??# redirect stdin and stdout to the inetd09:16
djdarkmanwhat is this process09:16
bumzoyour right jucato ... dumb me09:17
bumzonow i need to iupdrage my java to JRE 1.509:17
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geniidjdarkman: inetd is the internet services super-server. It sits in the background and when it sees some request for instance for a webpage it starts up the webserver, for an incoming mail it starts up the email program. and so on09:20
djdarkmanso a program of mine is using it too much?09:20
nomad111fdoving: those programs are for logic circuits09:21
nomad111fdoving: i wanted ones for analog circuits, soooooooo frustrated09:21
nomad111i havent got any programs for linux that i kno09:22
fdovingnomad111: then i have no clue.09:22
geniidjdarkman: Not too likely unless you have your box misconfigured somehow09:23
fdovingyou can try to search with apt:/ in konqueror.09:23
bumzook .. who can tell me how to update my java09:25
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Jucatobumzo: did you do "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre"?09:25
bumzowill ''sudo apt-get update java'' work?09:26
geniidjdarkman: I use the program "top" normally to see what is using a lot of cpu and so on. If you open a konsole and type in   sudo top     it will show you a list of things running ordered by how much resources they are using. You can exit with q key09:26
bumzoyes jucato ... and it install alright09:26
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Jucatobumzo: then you have the latest java already. more updated than 1.509:26
bumzobut frostwire tells me to upgrade to 1,5,009:26
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Jucatoer..? java6 = java 1.609:26
dettoaltrimenti_hello- can I make grep search the current directory, as well as other directories? or is there another command that does this?09:26
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: other subdirectories in the current directory?09:27
dettoaltrimenti_yes jucato09:27
dettoaltrimenti_sorry about that- yes, subdirectories09:27
chavogrep -r09:27
bumzowait jucato...how do i veryfy i have installed the java?09:27
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: what chavo said09:27
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Jucatobumzo: oh, you need to run this command, too: sudo update-alternatives --config java09:27
Jucatobumzo: it will give you a list of java versions to choose from. Choose the sun java version09:28
piro_java -version at cli09:29
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bumzook .. .done .. choose 3 jucato09:30
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Jucatobumzo: ok. I'm presuming #3 was the sun java? ok so you've confirmed that sun java is installed, and set the system to use that as the default09:30
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bumzoEUREKA JUCATO ... itw orked ... loading frost wire09:31
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dettoaltrimenti_the wildcard * doesn't seem to be working for me... could I have accidently done something to cause this?09:31
bumzohow do i put frostwire to appear in start menu???09:32
piro_right click taskbar unlock panels if its lock and configure --> menus --> edit k menu09:33
dettoaltrimenti_jucato- if I type, for example, "ls -R | grep *.mp3" I should get a list of all .mp3 files in the current directory and subdirectory right?09:33
Jucatoer... not sure if grep accepts that09:34
piro_bumzo: then add new item and put the command used to exec. it in command and name it and all that stuff, then stick it in the program tree where you want09:34
chavodettoaltrimenti_, you don't need the wildcard09:34
Jucatodettoaltrimenti_: besides, wouldn't "ls -R *.mp3" do the same thing?09:34
dettoaltrimenti_oh, you're right09:34
chavodettoaltrimenti_, try this find -name "*.mp3"09:34
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dettoaltrimenti_ah find, good command, thanks09:35
dettoaltrimenti_chavo- I have some m4a files that have mp3 copies, and I want to delete the m4a files, and I want to do it from the command line. "09:38
mart81why would a partition want to be in a group called plugdev?09:38
dettoaltrimenti_chavo- "ls -R | grep m4a" gives me a list of all the files I want to remove- what should the rest of the command be? rm what?09:38
chavodettoaltrimenti_, for i in `find -name "*.m4a"`;do rm $i;done09:39
dettoaltrimenti_chavo- can I add -iv so it prompts me and lets me know what it deleted?09:40
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chavoyou can also do for i in `find -name "*.m4a"`;do echo $i;done, to test it out first.09:40
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chavoto echo which files will be rm'd09:41
chavoI usually do that first just in case09:41
dettoaltrimenti_chavo- yeah, it didn't work- since there are spaces in the names, each line is one word from the title09:41
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MenaHow to install this pyqt3.1309:44
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fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: find . -name '*.m4a' -exec command '{}' \;09:45
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fdovingdettoaltrimenti_: {} is the argument to the command. replace command with for example 'rm' if you want to delete the files.09:46
Menai cant install it with adept i cant find it is there any other name for it09:46
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fdovingMena: looking for the python qt3 bindings?09:47
Jucato!info python-qt409:47
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ubotupython-qt4: Python bindings for Qt4. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1488 kB, installed size 6944 kB09:47
Jucato!info python-qt309:47
ubotupython-qt3: Qt3 bindings for Python. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16-1.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2209 kB, installed size 9968 kB09:47
JucatoMena: ^^^09:47
Menafdoving, the problem i dont knwo what i need of thes thing bec i need it for super karamba for a theme called liquid weather09:48
fdovingMena: liquidweather.net can tell you what you need.09:48
Menaand the owner didnt mention what to install09:49
Menajust install pyqt3.1309:49
fdovingget python-qt309:49
Menafdoving, ok09:49
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Kite_DHmy keyboard09:49
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Kite_DHsomebody there?09:50
craighi room09:50
Kite_DHcan anybody help me09:50
Menafdoving, Jucato, thanks ^_~09:50
craigwhasts up kite09:50
Kite_DHpc said AccessX, how to09:51
Kite_DHactivate to write again09:51
Kite_DHi copy paste rightnow09:51
craigany ladies here09:51
Kite_DHi played a game, i hold shift for 8+ secconds09:52
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Kite_DHpc said something with AccessX , activate or not, i clicked activate, i can not write anymore09:52
JucatoKite_DH: try holding it again for 8 seconds?09:52
Kite_DHi can not click buttons09:52
craiglike to know whats wrong with camming09:53
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craigkite are u m or f09:54
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Menafdoving, how to set karamba to auto start09:56
Menafdoving, i mean with the themes09:56
fdoving!autostart | mena09:56
ubotumena: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.09:56
Menafdoving, i try this but the program window start but the themes not09:56
Menafdoving, do you know why09:57
JucatoMena: just put a link to the superkaramba theme in the Autostart folder09:57
bumzoneed help10:01
bumzoam trying to mount a hard drive and it gives me the error message ''10:01
bumzoCould not mount device.10:01
bumzoThe reported error was:10:01
bumzomount: can't find /dev/hda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab10:01
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^BeLLo^i dont anderstand this:(10:04
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doktoreasis there a way for printing from kubuntu using a printer on win xp?10:04
bumzoyes doktoreas10:04
doktoreashi bumzo10:05
bumzobut you have to install the printer manualy10:05
doktoreasis there any guide for this task?10:05
bumzoopen your system menu10:05
Kite_DHreally, no idea?10:05
doktoreasbumzo: configuring k10:05
doktoreasbumzo: ok i have opened10:05
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Kite_DHwhat should i do now...10:06
bumzosorry ... .i meant open system settings dok10:06
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bumzothen can u see ''printers''10:07
skarrwhats the channel about10:07
Lynx-Hi. I have Kubuntu 6.10. I use English and Russian kb layouts, so I configured KDE to use the two layouts. The tray icon works fine and layouts change, but I cannot set up keyboard switching combination (ctrl+shift). The settings are present in KDE Control Module, but it seems they have no effect. What should I do?10:07
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doktoreasbumzo: ok10:08
bumzonow ... can u see ''add printer'' ?10:08
bumzoclick on add10:08
bumzothen go to ''printer/class''10:08
doktoreasyes i am in10:09
bumzowhat type of printer do you have?10:09
doktoreaschecking.. just a sec10:09
doktoreasdamn phone :d10:09
bumzofollwo the wizard ... chose ''smb shared printers (windows)10:10
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Mena_JUCATO, I DID AS YOY SAID but nothing happened10:11
bumzohey jucato ... neeed help10:12
bumzoCould not mount device.10:12
JucatoMena_: you made a link of the .theme file to ~/.kde/Autostart ?10:12
bumzoThe reported error was:10:12
bumzomount: can't find /dev/hda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab10:12
Mena_Jucato, yes10:12
Kite_DHJucato screenshot http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4205/bildschirmphoto1wj4.png10:12
bumzothats the error message when i try access one of my HDD10:12
JucatoMena_: strange... it should work...10:12
^BeLLo^i hate xorg grrrrrrrrrrrr10:12
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JucatoKite_DH: you can't select cancel?10:12
Kite_DHJucato i was gaming, so i just clicked OK10:13
Jucatooh.. I don't know how to turn that off10:13
Jucatobumzo: sorry, no idea...10:13
Mena_Jucato, so what i must to do10:14
Kite_DHJucato i'll never write again? :(10:14
JucatoMena_: normally, if you leave an app running before you logout, it will be started when you log back in10:14
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JucatoKite_DH: what language is that? I can't understand it, but people from your locale might10:14
Adydasis there a lazy mans HTML program for KDE?10:15
Jucato!de | Kite_DH10:15
ubotuKite_DH: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:15
Jucatotry #kubuntu-de10:15
Kite_DHbut i asked them10:15
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Adydasich bein auslander and speak no german :p[10:15
Kite_DHthey dont know either... :(10:15
Mena_Jucato, i know but i make it to start a new session if i made it to start with previuos tht would make the system slow right or no problem10:15
bumzomy amarok wont play mp3 files .... anyone know why?10:16
JucatoMena_: usually no problem. I'm not sure why the superkaramba theme won't start though. it should10:16
Adydasbumzo: codecs10:16
Jucatobumzo: did you install libxine-extracodecs?10:16
JucatoAdydas: Quanta, the only KDE/Qt HTML editor/app around, is not a lazy man's program...10:16
Mena_Jucato, ok10:16
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AdydasAlot of the superkaramba themes ive tryed are ass10:17
Adydasi only reccomend 2, Kubuntu monitor and weather++10:17
bumzohow do i install the codecs?10:17
Mena_Adydas, i use weather++ but the problem it cant start10:17
Adydasworks good for me10:18
Adydaswhat do you mean wont start?10:18
AdydasIs SK running ( blue bloob like icon in the systemtray? )10:18
Adydassudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs10:18
Mena_Adydas, the theme10:18
JucatoAdydas: he means it won't autostart10:19
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bumzoReading package lists... Done10:20
bumzoBuilding dependency tree... Done10:20
bumzoPackage libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:20
bumzoThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:20
bumzois only available from another source10:20
bumzoE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate10:20
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Adydasi was trying to find a way to do it like cron styles but took a while to realise its just a case of it loads what ever was last open on shutdown10:20
Adydasbumzo: check your repos10:20
Mena_Adydas , do i must add it also to the karamba or just to autostart folder10:20
bumzorepos ...as in?10:20
Adydasbumzo: i reccomend http://adydas.net/linux/repo-howto.txt10:21
Adydasit was rush made tonight, but it should help.10:21
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JucatoAdydas: does your guide have instructions for adding "multiverse"?10:21
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AdydasJucato: im going to fix it up in the morning10:22
Adydasi belive it has it in there, just not how to make sure its in there10:22
Jucatothat's the specific section that bumzo needs10:22
Jucatoer no. the sources.list you give at the top already presumes that multiverse is there10:22
AdydasJucato: hence why i gave him it.. :p10:22
JucatoAdydas: I meant, he needs a specific section on adding multiverse, which is not in your guide, because it presumes that it's already there. otherwise, nice work :)10:24
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Chameleon22hi all10:26
Chameleon22My USB stopped working. Mouse and kb are fine (both usb) however when I attempt to connect an external usb disk or a thumbdrive it doesnt do anything. This started happening after my machine rebooted (overheated and did a reboot - not very clean). i had this problem before and eventually reinstalled to fix it. Getting a little sick of it. Any ideas how to fix this?10:26
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bumzocheers jucato .. upstading..10:26
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yettenetCould anyone tell me where I can set the default viewprofile for Konqueror? (the file manager part)10:27
yettenetI can't seem to find it :S10:27
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bianconeriHello, I am having problems with streaming video on FF, specifically gamespot.com videos do not work :S ....yahoo videos on the other hand do....any ideas?10:29
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nomad111how the hell do i kno wat the password for a folder ive set up to share through samba10:29
nomad111on my other computer running windows it prompts for a username and password10:30
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nomad111some1 help10:31
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Chameleon22my machine rebooted all of a sudden few days ago (got overheated). Didn't use it much since then and just noticed that the USB stoped responding to usb disks... Any idea how to fix this? it happened once before and i reinstalled to solve the issue since i couldnt find a solution. Any help?10:33
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bumzostill an error message when i run sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs10:34
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bumzojucato help10:38
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Chameleon22my machine rebooted all of a sudden few days ago (got overheated). Didn't use it much since then and just noticed that the USB stoped responding to usb disks... Any idea how to fix this? it happened once before and i reinstalled to solve the issue since i couldnt find a solution. Any help?10:43
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bianconeriOk got gamespot to work on konqueror...just for future reference guys :D10:49
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sandrohello ... i cant seem to find install help on acrobat reader .. the help for edgy results in 'couldnt find any package whose name or description matched "mozilla-acroread"'10:56
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oemmoin :D10:57
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WuChEnevtl. jemand der der nen neuling ein wneig helfen kann?10:58
huXfluXHello! Is it possible to apply PINNING to ffmepg through the /etc/apt/preferences file? NOTE that i'm running Kubuntu Edgy and that file currently doesn't exit. If i create a new one, will the preferences apply and the packages I want to PIN won't get updated ? THANK YOU!10:58
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WuChEnanscheind garkeiner anwesend :D11:02
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huXfluXhello ?11:04
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aneeshow can I install wine on kubuntu11:05
waylandbillanees: from adept after enabling universe repo.11:05
WuChEnor by apt-get install wine :D11:05
Jucato(which should already be enabled by default)11:06
waylandbillWuChEn: or aptitude or synaptic. whatever you feel like using. :)11:06
bianconerisandro: sudo aptitude install acroread mozilla-acroread acroread-plugins11:07
WuChEni am a newby on kubuntu :) i have a problem11:07
WuChEni hav einstall by cd yesterday, all works fine, then the updatemanager has update my system and a new kernl, now i have no sound :(11:07
WuChEnsry for my bad english xD11:07
waylandbillwhat sound card?11:08
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yettenetHow can I set the default view profile in Konqueror?11:09
WuChEnits supported by alsa11:09
WuChEnif i run alsamixer11:09
WuChEnit says11:09
WuChEnalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device11:09
aneesI am also a newby in kubuntu11:10
aneesI tried to install wine by apt-get install wine11:10
waylandbillWuChEn: no doubt alsa supports it. it sounds like the module didn't load though.11:10
WuChEnhow can i reinstall the soundcarc or can kde automatic detectd se soundcard?11:10
aneesbut it does'nt work11:10
waylandbillanees: did it give an error?11:11
WuChEnpackage not found?11:11
aneesE: Broken packages11:11
WuChEnyou musst edit the source.list in /etc/apt/11:11
WuChEnan duncommend the lines:11:12
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WuChEnthe deb lines remove the #11:12
WuChEnwaylandbill: what can i do? i want to be sound but a newbie :D11:13
waylandbillanees: what was broken with the package? missing dependency?11:13
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aneesThe following packages have unmet dependencies:11:14
chavoyettenet, set the view to whatver you want then go to Settings -> Save View Profile "File Management" and save the profile. then restart the file manager11:14
anees  wine: Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.11) but 1.0.10-2ubuntu4 is to be installed11:14
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anees        Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed11:14
anees        Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-12) but 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed11:14
anees        Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed11:14
anees        Depends: libgphoto2-2 (>= 2.2.1) but 2.1.6-5.2ubuntu8 is to be installed11:14
anees        Depends: libgphoto2-port0 (>= 2.2.1) but 2.1.6-5.2ubuntu8 is to be insta lled11:14
anees        Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-12) but 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed11:14
anees        Depends: libusb-0.1-4 (>= 2:0.1.12) but 2:0.1.10a-22ubuntu1 is to be ins talled11:14
waylandbilldon't paste it.11:14
anees        Depends: libxml2 (>= 2.6.26) but 2.6.24.dfsg-1ubuntu1 is to be installed11:14
anees        Depends: libxslt1.1 (>= 1.1.17) but 1.1.15-1ubuntu1 is to be installed11:14
aneesE: Broken packages11:14
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:14
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geniiai yai yai11:15
yettenetchavo: The point is that I don't want to overwrite the default one11:15
genii!pastebin | anees11:16
ubotuanees: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:16
waylandbillanees: do a sudo apt-get update11:16
chavoyettenet, then make a new profile11:16
yettenetchavo: Already done11:16
yettenetchavo: But I can't find a way to make it default11:16
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Chameleon22my machine rebooted all of a sudden few days ago (got overheated). Didn't use it much since then and just noticed that the USB stoped responding to usb disks... Any idea how to fix this? it happened once before and i reinstalled to solve the issue since i couldnt find a solution. Any help?11:16
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chavoyettenet, then make a launcher that opens "kfmclient openProfile profile_name"