[12:28] why does dh_make give us a copyright file such as "This is , written and maintained by ..." instead of "This package was debianized by.."? === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-55-153.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:33] tepsipakki: dh_make wanted it to be named that way - is it okay to change? === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-55-153.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:40] What do things like "dpkg-source: warning: executable mode 0755 of `config.sub' will not be represented in diff" mean? === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ademan [n=dan@adsl-69-109-244-54.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-179.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:13] giskard: ping? === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ademan_ [n=dan@adsl-69-109-244-111.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@77-198-0-72-ppp.3menatwork.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === did447 [n=didier@LPuteaux-151-41-32-61.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === caravena [n=caravena@51-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@51-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueCommand [n=bluecomm@unaffiliated/bluecommand] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ademan_ [n=dan@adsl-69-109-225-87.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@51-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] Heya gang [02:22] hi bddebian :) [02:23] Hello pochu [02:23] ah, it's a bddebian [02:23] Uh oh, what'd I do now? :) [02:24] RUN [02:24] nothing with listen, I think :) [02:24] bddebian: how much time needs a package to get to the archive? [02:25] Can depend. Did it build successfully this time? [02:25] bddebian: you sound guilty, what did you do? [02:26] ajmitch: I'm always guilty of something :-) [02:27] guilty of complaining about yourself [02:27] bddebian: succesfully! :) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/listen/0.5-0ubuntu2 [02:27] in all architectures :) [02:28] ajmitch: Not complaining, just truth-telling :_) [02:29] pochu: It can depend but usually like every 3 hours or so I think [02:30] bddebian: ok, ty :) [02:30] I wasn't sure it had built successfully, but now that I've seen it, I'm very happyyyyyyyyy :D [02:31] however, listen won't be there with geser, slomo and yours' help :) [02:31] but it's there!! === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@stwgw.stw.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] hehe [02:31] hi Fujitsu :) === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] geser: ping (gpib)? [02:45] OK, who knows udev rules? === pochu doens't :( [02:49] doesn't* [02:51] hum ho [02:51] ello all [02:51] Heya imbrandon [02:51] hi imbrandon [02:51] moins pochu === imbrandon finaly got his new cellphone [02:52] imbrandon: which one? [02:53] motorola razor [02:53] imbrandon: link? :) [02:53] one sec [02:54] http://www.mycricket.com/plansphones/motorolamotoslvrl7c [02:55] mp3 player, micro sd, bluetooth, etc etc etc [02:55] kinda nice [02:55] camera, camcorder too [02:58] hum de dum dum === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@77-198-0-72-ppp.3menatwork.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] heya bddebian [02:59] hello again imbrandon :-) [02:59] lol [03:00] imbrandon: cool phone [03:00] Heya LaserJock [03:00] I went to the Cingular store yesterda to see if I could get an upgrade [03:01] but I'd have to pay 50% more just to get to the lowest priced plan :/ [03:01] hi bddebian [03:01] imbrandon: does it have a bathroom timer too to tell you when it's about time to look for the closest restroom? [03:02] jdong: lol :) [03:02] imbrandon: nice phone [03:02] c'mon who can help me name these stupid udev rules files? [03:02] pochu: that's my favorite comeback for "whoa, look at my new $TI_calc! It does $cheap_algebra_op_1 and $cheap_algebra_op_2!" [03:03] jdong, lol [03:03] hehe [03:03] LaserJock, get cricket, thats what i have, they have cric in reno [03:03] i love it === pochu should think in change his cellphone [03:04] http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_c380_c385-658.php === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-79-61.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@51-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] imbrandon: did you really pay like $200 for that phone? [03:07] $214 + tax [03:07] yea [03:07] must be nice having a real job ;-) [03:07] heh [03:08] heh [03:08] yeh i dont want to go back to study now [03:08] too much money owrking [03:08] I'm paying $60/month for two lines and the phones were free [03:08] and that was a stretch [03:09] i pay 55 a month for unlimited everything , web voicemail longdistance etc etc etc [03:09] and its 10 bux more per phone/line [03:09] so for 2 it would be 65 === Megaqwerty [n=megaqwer@ip72-197-246-192.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] wow, that is good === bddebian would like to throw his cell phone in the ocean [03:09] thats why i like cricket [03:10] imbrandon: have you tried the mobile web? [03:10] they are great if you have them in your 5~area and reno does [03:10] could anyone point me to a tutorial or something to learn how to package .deb files? [03:10] yea i was on gmail earlier when i got the phone [03:10] !packageguide [03:10] The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources [03:10] thanks [03:10] Megaqwerty, there ya go [03:10] Damnit, beat me to it [03:10] hehe === ajmitch wonders what timezone asac is in [03:11] asac? [03:11] is that a nick? [03:11] firefox guy [03:11] yes [03:11] ahh === ajmitch was wanting to ask him about building another binary package from firefox [03:12] might be easier to split it into another source package [03:12] ajmitch: its fun [03:13] ajmitch: dpkg-buildpackage :) [03:13] ajmitch: i think if you check his launchpad page it would probably tell you === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] gnomefreak: that's so helpful [03:19] ajmitch: really to build ff you cd into the firefox dir after unpacking. make your changes (as long as its a point release (patch or what not) just run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -k and it will build [03:19] ajmitch: see above :) [03:19] gnomefreak: yeah, I think I know how to build packages thanks :) [03:20] gnomefreak: when I said another binary package, I meant an additional one, as specifcied in debian/control [03:21] figured that thats why i didnt answer right away === caravena [n=caravena@51-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] so you figured that, but said it anyway? :) === enyc [n=enyc@1337.whitehorse.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] Can someone help me decipher lintian output please? [03:23] pastebin it [03:24] 'k === caravena [n=caravena@51-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:25] ajmitch: you might be able to catch him in #ubuntu-mozillateam tomorrow he said he was gone for the day [03:27] bddebian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6801/ [03:28] tonyyarusso: THe NMU warnings you can ignore [03:28] The CVS directories were included in the tarball, btw. [03:28] Aye, and they shouldn't be [03:28] bddebian: Okay. (What does NMU mean anyway?) [03:28] Non-Maintainer Upload [03:28] ah [03:28] Should rules have something to remove the CVS stuff? [03:30] No, they should be removed from the tarball :-) [03:30] Either get upstream to remove them or you can re-pack it. (Upstream fixing is preferred) [03:31] Same goes for config.log and any generated files. If they are there, they should be cleaned also [03:31] If config.log is coming from your build, make sure you have a clean target and are doing 'make clean' or whatever is appropriate [03:31] Well, there's certainly no hope of getting upstream to remove them by the 22nd, I figure. What's the proper way to delete them? Through the diff, or rules? [03:31] Neither [03:32] I thought we weren't supposed to modify the tarball though? [03:32] Ideally we aren't [03:32] But this would be an acceptable exception? [03:32] Depends on who you ask [03:34] All right, cut to the chase: Would either leaving them or modifying it to remove them be grounds for rejecting the upload? [03:34] ajmitch: ^^ ? [03:38] tonyyarusso: Personally, I would whack them and make a note in debian/README.Debian but I'm wrong often :) [03:39] noted [03:43] bddebian: Is there a set format to README.Debian? (I already lost the .ex) [03:43] Nope, it's just a place for comments/notes, etc related to the package [03:43] At least not that I've ever seen [03:44] pretty sure your right [03:45] Wow, that's a first ;-P [03:46] If I get this done and up on REVU tonight, is anyone available to take a look soon enough for possible Feisty inclusion? (I know the deadline is Thursday, kinda tight...) [03:46] We can try [03:47] :) === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] Hey, anyone want to give a second ACK (or reject based on linda output) for http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4426 ? [04:15] I finally heard back from the original packager, and he's cool with me fixing his stuff :) [04:19] #ubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@71-86-32-82.static.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-144-122.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] BROADCOM MUST DIE [04:39] Your wireless sucks? [04:40] mozilla-browser/seamonkey is not in feisty? === RAOF is *so* glad he got a Centrino lappy. Lovely intel card :) [04:40] joejaxx: no, and no. [04:40] broadcom works for me [04:40] bddebian: Thanks for gnome-compiz-manager, review, btw. [04:41] joejaxx: Are you running Feisty? [04:41] Because Feisty seems to be breaking the poor Broadcomm users into little pieces. [04:41] crimsun: were they taken out on purpose? [04:41] yes. [04:41] oh ok [04:42] RAOF: Yeah feisty and I had it working until my latest dist-upgrade :-( [04:42] crimsun: did i miss a mailing list discussion? [04:42] crimsun: Incidentally, have I thanked you for fixing my ASUS laptop's sound? If not, thanks :) [04:42] bddebian: :( === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] bddebian: bah, it's not feisty's supposed to /work/ [04:43] not like ^ [04:44] :P [04:44] crimsun: isn't that why the developers pull an all-nighter just before release? [04:44] ajmitch: oh of course! === jan__ [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:45] since they have nothing better to do anyway [04:46] This freakin sucks donkey .... [04:47] joejaxx: there have been a[t least a] couple threads about m-b/iceape, fixing Depends/Suggests/Recommends, and what Ubuntu plans to do [in short, using firefox/thunderbird/etc.] [04:48] which list? maybe i am not subscribed to it [04:49] should be u-d-*, see bug 77009 for an example that resulted [04:49] Malone bug 77009 in wysihtml "failed deps on iceweasel | iceape-browser | icedove" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77009 === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] crimsun: oh alright thanks :) === helge [n=helge@203.62-97-194.bkkb.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SEJeff [n=SEJeff@adsl-76-208-152-77.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SEJeff_ [n=SEJeff@adsl-76-208-154-71.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] LaserJock: 22:46:05 [ mako] yes, very cute :) <- Mako Hell is where Bill Gats will go :) [05:56] nixternal: hehe === LaserJock bombs ubuntu-devel [06:00] uh oh === tritium things evolution wants him to get fired for missing meetings. Why else wouldn't it give me alarm notifications for my exchange account? ;) [06:06] oops [06:06] Hey LaserJock [06:06] hi tritium [06:08] tritium: how's it going? other than missing meetings? [06:08] pbuilder just failed to build, giving all kinds of stuff like this: [06:08] tar: mozilla/embedding/qa/mozembed/src/mozEmbed.h: Cannot open: No such file or directory [06:08] tar: Skipping to next header [06:08] LaserJock: not bad. You? Any news? [06:08] tritium: oh, getting data. Got a postdoc working for/with me now [06:09] Excellent. [06:09] tritium: she's a biochemist though so some of the more "physicsy" stuff takes some time [06:09] Those files do exist... [06:09] tonyyarusso: where? [06:09] LaserJock: right on. [06:09] LaserJock: In both the tarball and my extracted source dir. [06:10] LaserJock: Cool. I wish I had someone to simplify huge, awkward algebraic expressions for me [06:10] tonyyarusso: hmm [06:11] Maybe I should accidentally set them as questions for my tutees :) [06:11] LaserJock: what can I do? === helge [n=helge@203.62-97-194.bkkb.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:21] RAOF: it's all about delegation [06:21] LaserJock: any ideas whatsoever? [06:21] tonyyarusso: I'm not really sure, just make sure the files are in the source package and they are really where pbuilder thinks they are [06:23] tonyyarusso: Particularly, you might want to make sure that the current-working-directory is where you think it is at that point of debian/rules. [06:26] LaserJock: Not sure how to check where pbuilder thinks they are. [06:26] RAOF: How? === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177945477.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:26] By the way, I used -sa with debuild, so it would be ready for REVU - does pbuilder need it done without? === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.150.233] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:30] tonyyarusso: By eye, really. I suppose you could add a punch of "echo `pwd`" to debian/rules, though. [06:32] good night guys :) [06:32] RAOF: I'll try looking through it...I don't understand the debian/rules file at all though. Guess I'm not getting this done tonight :( === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@modemcable134.233-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:39] I'm off for the night then. Thanks. === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.114.91.57] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:59] bddebian: thanks [07:01] AnAnt: NP [07:01] Gnight folks === AnAnt [n=anant@62.114.91.57] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F7427F.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:07] good morning [08:08] morning dholbach [08:09] hey LaserJock === tsmithe is watching LaserJock [08:13] what? === LaserJock looks around [08:13] dholbach, could i pester you for some reviews? [08:13] tsmithe: it's best to drop me a mail with the packages you want to get reviewed [08:13] tsmithe: that way i don't forget it and can shove it between other tasks [08:13] tsmithe: but yeah, I'm happy to [08:14] thank you very much [08:15] what's the e-mail address i should use? [08:15] tsmithe: yeah, I think the best thing to do is to get on people's TODO list [08:15] tsmithe: dholbach ubuntu com [08:15] cool [08:15] thanks === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jnair [n=jayesh@203.123.188.10] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] right - i'm off [08:33] LaserJock, anyone, if you do happen to catch a spare moment, you know what i'd like ;) === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@193.141.61.201] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kagou [n=Kagou@88.140.38.138] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _Andrew [n=_Andrew@ppp-58.10.102.130.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] slomo: pong? :) [09:13] dholbach: will motu-council be public? [09:13] or is it for inter-council communications like TB's [09:14] LaserJock: public === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.130.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.130.178] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === RAOF [n=chris@202.63.35.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] siretart: can you take a look at #86515 ? thanks :) [09:47] bug 86515 [09:47] Malone bug 86515 in ndesk-dbus "UVF exception: ndesk-dbus 0.4.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86515 [09:48] new version already? [09:48] slomo: done :) [09:48] siretart: thanks :) [09:49] Can someone give the second ACK (or complain about the linda warnings) for http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4426 ? [09:50] ajmitch: yep, since yesterday... some bugfixes only :) [09:53] man, Council Greyskull meeting is 10UTC? 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[10:04] Malone bug 86434 in azureus "Azureus won't start in Feisty Herd 4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86434 [10:05] no idea, i'm not an ubuntu user... i'm just az support staffer ;) [10:06] The_8472: right, I just thought it might look familiar ;-) [10:06] and that bugreport doesn't include the logfile, so i can't tell if it's the same or not [10:07] did you guys recently upgrade some gtk libs? === SEJeff_ [n=SEJeff@76.208.159.163] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:09] The_8472: that's certainly possible. Do you know what release? [10:09] you mean of ubuntu? [10:10] yeah [10:10] no, but i can ask the user [10:10] do you know which one is having the problem? [10:10] # [10:10] OS:testing/unstable [10:10] # [10:10] [10:10] # [10:10] uname:Linux 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 [10:11] if that helps [10:12] it's reading it as a debian system :P [10:12] but that's 6.10 === ivoks [n=ivoks@6-110.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:13] bah, I don't even know where we get swt/gtk [10:13] looks like maybe eclipse [10:16] Amaranth: Have you had any trouble with Compiz today? [10:16] RAOF: i haven't updated today [10:16] Ah. I think some of the new Xorg stuff is breaking it. Upgrade and see :) [10:17] and i downgraded to the libx11 that doesn't use libxcb [10:17] because i couldn't login due to an xcb error :) [10:17] :) [10:17] oh, bleh [10:17] ? [10:18] nothing [10:18] i thought that libx11 was in the repos now === givre [n=Florent@82.120.216.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:18] Well, if you're not doing anything, want to provide the second ACK for gnome-compiz-manager? [10:18] :P [10:19] uh [10:19] i'm not a person that can ACK things on revu [10:19] i'm not even registered in revu [10:19] Well, that's not very helpful! [10:19] Amaranth: lucky you ;-) [10:19] How can you not be a MOTU? [10:19] Silly person! === ajmitch isn't really a motu either === RAOF transfers his attention to LaserJock [10:20] I just lurk here :) [10:20] LaserJock, since we usually tell ubuntu users to fetch an official build from our site and it works afterwards i guess its due to the outdated SWT version in the ubuntu repos [10:21] we ship with swt 33XX. ubuntu uses 3235 [10:23] The_8472: I'm just guessing it'd be a bit difficult for use to fix [10:24] *us [10:25] isn't it possible to make user-specific installations? something that would go to ~/bin/azureus or something like that? 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This is a common disto/upstream issue [10:48] The_8472: I would either file a bug or email the ubuntu-motu mailing list [10:48] that way more people (and hopefully the more knowledgable one) can chime in === PuMpErNiCkLe [n=pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:50] heya people [10:52] can someone upload http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4417 bddebian belived that it needed first to be remove from NEW (i have an old version waiting here), but seb128 said me that it wan't needed [10:52] thanks === coNP [n=conp@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GNUro [i=GNUro@gateway/tor/x-0e10588a41c72315] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] Hello! === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-087-94-053-172.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:10] Could anybody be kind enough to help me find out why my pbuilder doesn't see glib.h? Lots of information here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6831/ Thanks! :) [11:11] giskard: ping? :) === daviey [n=dave1111@cpc1-sout2-0-0-cust111.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@ip5650d1ab.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:18] AstralJava: Is the #include or ? === xerxas [n=r67894@AGrenoble-257-1-6-237.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apokryphos [n=francis@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:20] StevenK: It's #include [11:21] That would be why it can't be found, then. It's supposed to be [11:21] Hi all [11:24] StevenK: Thanks! Now since I'm new to packaging stuff, what's the best approach in fixing this? I can't seem to reach the upstream author, and since it's very close to deadline already, I can't wait for an answer anymore. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:26] I'd suggest a patch. [11:26] Alright. Thanks again! [11:27] Am i rightt in saying, If you were doing absolute path it would be #include "glib-2.0/glib.h" [11:30] Not "", "" and <> are different for #include. === cassidy [n=cassidy@dsl-217-155-249-190.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:37] dholbach: is there an end line for uvf for feisty ?! (Bug #86480 and Bug #86517) [11:37] Malone bug 86480 in dcraw "UVF exception : dcraw 8.39 -> 8.54" [Wishlist,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86480 [11:37] Malone bug 86517 in gimp-dcraw "UVF exception : gimp-dcraw 1.27 -> 1.29" [Wishlist,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86517 [11:37] Kagou: end line? [11:38] Kagou: we'll consider UVF exception requests until some days before release - if that's what you mean [11:38] yes, like a UVF freeze on feisty schedule. [11:38] we're in UVf already [11:39] oh, i understand. [11:39] why ubuntu/launchpad and all the world not speaking french ?! ;) [11:41] dholbach: Oh drat. I thought it was tomorrow [11:41] StevenK: I dunno who decided on that Universe FF [11:41] You might be thinking of feature freeze, StevenK? [11:41] RAOF: More than likely. :-) === StevenK stops looking at uswsusp, and fixes two bugs in bzr-gtk instead. === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:46] StevenK: After adding what was suggested, I now get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6837/ [11:47] How to get around of that? [11:48] Oh, leave it as #include , and specify -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 in the CFLAGS. [11:49] There is more than likely a nice automated way to do this, but I don't know it. [11:50] Alright, seems it was done "The Right Way" earlier since I get: checking for GLIB_CFLAGS... -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/libxml2 at one point. [11:53] Then just use GLIB_CFLAGS === shufla [n=shufla@gii66.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] But apparently they won't do the trick, since I've seen that message all the time, with or without "glib-2.0/" in the #include clause. [11:55] hello. I'm not able to goolge for it, but I' [11:55] m interested in having debian/* directory from source in svn [11:55] are there any ready solutions for such thing? === herzi [n=herzi@p548FEED5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F75695.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:56] we have right now full source package in svn which is doubling work, because svn *is* revision based system, same as dpkg tools provide. [11:56] like on alioth.debian.org and pkg-* in thier svn. [11:57] shufla: there is svn-buildpackage and svn-autoreleasedeb, but I am not sure what you really want to do :) [11:58] coNP: to have debian/control in svn, tarballs and rest on http for example and automatic builder for that. [11:58] coNP: svn-buildpackage is what I need I think :D === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:59] dholbach do you need more informations for dcraw uvf ? === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] bye [12:09] AstralJava: However apt-get install, will install gli === GNUro [i=GNUro@gateway/tor/x-0e10588a41c72315] has left #ubuntu-motu ["(gdb)] === givre [n=Florent@82.120.216.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou_ [n=kagou@88-138-192-212.adslgp.cegetel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-048-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-69-221.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] zul: hi. xen-meta still fails to build because you applied the changes from my debdiff on the wrong target and missing an assignement at the beginning === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.130.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] lionel: ping [12:54] pong AnAnt [12:55] lionel: could you review acon ? It needs one more advocate, it is a bug fix upload not a new package === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:56] lionel: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4427 [12:56] AnAnt: I am not a MOTU, so I can not advocate [12:56] oh [12:56] AnAnt: It is only an update, to a new package ? [12:57] lionel != lionelp ? [12:57] no, lionel=lionelp [12:57] lionel: it is an update to a package that existed in Edgy [12:57] AnAnt: so you only need one advocate to get updated [12:57] lionel: and it's not a new upstream release [12:57] yup === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-5ca264103c5cb2fb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] AnAnt: you only need someone to upload [12:59] erm, so what should I do ? [01:00] Adri2000, geser, can you have a look on AnAnt package. bddebian already advocated (it is only and update) [01:01] thanks [01:07] as this is an update to an existing package bddebian could upload it. I'm looking at it right now === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:21] AnAnt: acon uploaded [01:22] geser: thanks [01:28] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4428 has had it's UVF exception approved and it ready for review if anyone is available? === AnAnt [n=anant@62.139.130.178] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:32] geser: for acroread-asian-fonts, the package only contains fonts for acroread. I did not notice that acroread was removed. So please archive this package === GNUro [i=GNUro@gateway/tor/x-b8e43540bacd972b] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] lionel: done [01:39] thanks [01:40] oh what a hacky package I'm creating === hoora_217166 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-e4decd4ea35622eb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] Alright, the problem seems to be in the configure script, if you look at checking for GLIB_CFLAGS... -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/libxml2 part on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6831/ (line 407) they don't get transferred along to lines 419 and/or 421. Any idea why? This part of configure script is on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6860/ === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] config.log would be more useful. [01:52] I suspect autotools (Makefile.{am,in}) screwage. === crimsun -> work [01:57] crimsun, others: config.log -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6861/ === pochu [n=pochu@38.Red-88-7-170.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] hi all :) yesterday geser updated listen in the archive, and it built fine. however it isn't in the archive yet. do you know how much time needs a package to hit the archive? [02:07] hey all === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-69-221.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] hi fernando [02:11] pochu: Are you sure it's not there yet? According to LP the new packages are built: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/listen/0.5-0ubuntu2 [02:11] ScottK: I think not :( http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/listen/ [02:12] Yes. The last entries there were built yesterday. Was there more than one upload yesterday? [02:12] Nevermind === GNUro [i=GNUro@gateway/tor/x-59188d89d3c0d656] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] pochu: It does not appear to be hung up in the queue https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=&start=0 so I don't know what to tell you. [02:20] pochu: see my question in #ubuntu-devel: archive.u.c seems to have troubles [02:20] geser: going :) === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] geser: ty :) [02:24] slomo, pong === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=gazer@200.68.69.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena_ [n=caravena@168-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-24-0-153-89.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-201-32.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@modemcable134.233-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@168-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@unaffiliated/tuxmaniac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast [n=martin@p508B25BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:12] seb128, could you please do the sync in bug #84917? :-) [03:12] Malone bug 84917 in bcm43xx-fwcutter "[SYNC] Please sync bcm43xx-fwcutter from Debian" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84917 [03:14] pirast: subsribe ubuntu-archive to the bug [03:14] givre, that has changed afaik [03:16] givre, see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-February/000250.html [03:16] pirast: no, and seb128 isn't in this channel [03:16] Adri2000, i also noticed and contacted him in an other channel :-) [03:17] Adri2000: do you have time for a review? [03:18] It's http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4428 and the UVF exception is approved. [03:18] ScottK: maybe, depends what it is :p [03:18] ok, new upstream version, I will kook [03:18] look* [03:18] Thanks. === givr1 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-96-18.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] Adi2000 givre: also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess it says "subscribe and ubuntu-universe-sponsors for packages in Universe/Multiverse." [03:20] pirast: for a sync, you open you bug and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors [03:20] then when a ubuntu-dev ACKed, he should subscribe ubuntu-archive [03:20] lionel, yeah I know.. but givre said subscribe ubuntu-archive directly :-) [03:21] and then, when an archive admin do his work (on the days given in your mail) he does the sync :) [03:21] pirast: yep, and then a member of u-u-s subscribes ubuntu-archive if it's ok, but no need to ping an archive admin on irc, except "if your need is in some ways urgent (and jumping the queue [03:21] is justified)" (from the ubuntu-devel-announce email) [03:21] Don't sub u-a unless you're a member of ubuntu-dev. [03:21] okay === givr2 [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-87-139.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] hey, could updating dbus and dbus-glib do any massive harm to my system? [03:33] xopher: yeh theres plenty of potential there if its buggered [03:36] ScottK: "changed maintainer to back to MOTU." < I can remove the first "to", right? :) [03:36] Sure. Thanks for the catch. === ScottK can't always copy/paste very well... [03:36] That or I can fix it, whatever you prefer. [03:37] Lathiat, so you're saying it's not worth it? What problems could arise? [03:37] ScottK: I can do it, if you have nothing else to change [03:38] I've got nothing else. [03:38] ok === Kagou [n=Kagou@88.140.38.138] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] Toadstool: are you around? [03:46] ScottK: uploaded === caravena_ [n=caravena@244-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:48] Adri2000: Thanks! === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] slomo: ? === pochu [n=pochu@38.Red-88-7-170.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-46-138.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shufla [n=shufla@gii66.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:57] hello. are there logs for this channel? [03:59] !log | shufla [03:59] shufla: Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [03:59] ups, he isn't here :) [03:59] hehe [04:00] i guess he can check the log files then [04:00] for the answer [04:01] zul: hehe :) [04:03] hi guys [04:03] I have a script that is used to start a binary, it is only used during xsession boot up [04:03] where would be the best palce to store it [04:06] it's currently in /usr/bin/ [04:06] but I'm not sure it's the right place for it [04:06] /usr/share/ isn't right [04:06] argh [04:06] where should i put it [04:06] the script itself? Well if it's an Xsession-type, then use /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-69-60.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:06] crimsun [04:06] no it's not [04:06] an xsession calls it [04:06] an xsession script calls it [04:07] it's to do with xsessiond but musn't be run by xsessiond [04:07] it's more of a launcher === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] hey bddebian [04:08] Heya gang [04:08] Hi cbx33 [04:09] Hi bddebian [04:09] Heya geser [04:09] geser: If you get bored, I threw up a new gpib [04:09] heya bddebian [04:09] Heya bddebian. You just missed your chance to have me bug you about uploading an update for me... [04:09] Also, I don't know if the firmware can be included or not? [04:09] cbx33: what's wrong w/ using /usr/bin/ ? [04:09] Hi givre, ScottK [04:09] crimsun, didn't know if it was frowned upon [04:09] cbx33: e.g., /etc/X11/Xsession.d/60seahorse uses /usr/bin/seahorse-agent [04:09] ok I'll do that [04:09] thanks crimsun [04:10] ScottK: I saw it up yesterday and I was wondering about that :) [04:10] zul: should I prepare a new debdiff for xen-meta or fix it and upload? it still ftbfs (you applied the changes on the wrong target and missed a line) [04:10] geser: yes go ahead [04:11] bddebian: about ntfs-config, i asked seb128, who said me : seb128: givre: no need to reject it, just upload the new version and it'll be superseded [04:11] bddebian: I got out of sequence and uploaded before I had the UVF exception approved. I got that overnight. [04:11] givre: OK, that's news to me but I'll throw it up [04:13] bddebian: yeah i also didn't really know. === SEJeff__ [n=SEJeff@adsl-76-208-132-94.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@193.141.61.201] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] givre: Uploaded === givre hugs bddebian :) [04:20] bddebian, givre: there seems to be a problem with the archive, so maybe the uploads don't hit the archive for a while [04:21] bddebian, givre: it seems it works now! wow! [04:21] what fast :) [04:21] hehe [04:21] I haven't said anything :) [04:21] pochu: thank you for the info :) [04:21] geser: debian in the archive! [04:21] WTF are you two talking about? :-) [04:24] Well I guess I'm going to fail on tilp2 and gpib :'-( [04:26] bddebian: good luck :) === ash211 [n=andrew@71-86-32-82.static.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eXistenZ [n=existenz@unaffiliated/eXistenZ] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:29] tsmithe: ping (re: wired) === shufla [n=shufla@gii66.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] hello. how to pass -rfakeroot to svn-autoreleasedeb by its config file?