[12:19] well [12:19] I had to eat :-) [12:20] I think I spoke to him earlier? [12:20] cliebow_: I'm trying to find out now if ssh is even my real problem. [12:21] ask Gadi..nicely on #ltsp === caravena_ is now known as caravena === caravena_ [n=caravena@190-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === caravena__ [n=caravena@211-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === lns [n=lns@75.61.204.110] has joined #edubuntu === jgedeon [n=joe@oh-67-77-123-4.sta.embarqhsd.net] has joined #edubuntu === caravena_ [n=caravena@216-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === caravena__ [n=caravena@224-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === caravena__ is now known as caravena === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === Meshezabeel [n=kevin@64-201-203-240.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #edubuntu [04:17] I think I found a bug in edubuntu, can someone confirm this for me? [04:20] if I run xmodmap it shows Alt_L twice, can someone else run this and see if it happens for them too? === pitux [n=pitux@107-93-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === sbson [n=sbson@211.219.218.96] has joined #edubuntu === sbson [n=sbson@211.219.218.96] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === Meshezabeel [n=kevin@64-201-203-240.prna.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has left #edubuntu [] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=prochat1@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:19] ping burgundavia [07:19] cbx33: pong [07:19] Burgundavia: by the way, cbx33 told me to tell you 'I will be home from work early tomorrow which will give me time to finish up those changes on the chapter. I did try to email you, but pocketpc died.' 3 days, 6 hours, 21 minutes and 57 seconds ago (on Mon Feb 19 01:58:03 2007) [07:20] cbx33: given I am currently relaxing with A, I didn't have time to look at your chapter [07:20] haha [07:20] ok [07:20] was laughing at edubuntugirl [07:21] will you have time before debra wants it? [07:21] absolutely [07:21] she is looking for all my reviews by the end of the weekend [07:21] hmmm [07:22] do you have another revisionto devlive to me? [07:22] no [07:22] ok [07:22] sounds good [07:22] you have latest, was gonna work on any changes today after i got it back from u [07:22] have you played with ltsp fat clients? [07:22] no [07:23] hmm [07:25] deb wants it on friday.....from me at least, i'm just trying to see when i can fit in changes. I only really have tonight left. [07:25] ok [07:25] so..... [07:25] can you ping her and ask her? [07:26] ask her what? [07:27] when it has to be delivered by [07:27] she sent me a mail today asking for everything on friday as hand off day [07:29] from you to the reviews or from me to her? [07:29] from me to her [07:30] presumably after it has been reviewed by you [07:30] ah [07:30] she is looking at it with another reviewer at the weekend [07:31] and i'll then have till tues for any further changes [07:31] ok [07:34] so how do you want to work it....btw you know i sent you 2 mails,.......use the latest one [07:34] ok [07:34] I will start reviewing tomorrow night [07:35] right.... [07:35] will you be making changes? [07:36] likely [07:36] I am minorly opinionated and likely to find something I need to change :) [07:36] i'll have to pass them on straight to deb, as i doubt i'll get much time to fuklly look at them [07:36] heh.....you,.....never [07:36] :p [07:38] so, a quiet evening for me then. [07:39] ;) [07:40] i only have 2 images left to do too :) [07:41] do you wanna send it to deb then? [07:42] ih cbx33 [07:43] hey laserjock [07:43] howz u? [07:44] doing good [07:44] excellent [07:44] I just created a server guide and packaging guide .deb [07:44] nice [07:46] right i'm off to start my day... [07:47] can you me know on that last one burgundavia? [07:47] cbx33: which one? [07:47] do you wanna send to deb [07:48] for the friday deadline [07:48] and send me a copy too [07:48] I will chat with her tomorrow about my deadlines [07:48] ok [07:49] i will send her my copy and say it's with you === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [07:50] so i can actually give her something [07:51] bye all [07:52] cbx33: private msg? 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[11:49] ogra: have done some changes to tcm....there was a problem with Xsession.d and the scp-client script, resulting in the fact that I couldn't blank/unblank screens === mpytasz [n=dduck@zipa2.fastnet.it] has joined #edubuntu [11:49] because scp couldn't contact the gnome-screensaver session [11:49] there was a bug about it on LP [11:49] or something very similar [11:49] after talking to the #gnome guys I have a fix [11:49] but you may not like it [11:50] check it out, it's in the bzr repo [11:50] i have also fixed up vnc [11:50] and it looks a lot prittier now [11:58] anyone know what device dm-1 is ? [11:59] I'm running a dapper livecd on a machine and getting I/O errors on dm-1 [12:20] cbx33: device mapper 1 - on-chip software raid [12:21] Mind you, just ignore if you're running off CD [12:22] yeh [12:22] it was dying for a while [12:44] cbx33, i saw the bug, i will check it if i have the time ... (next week) i suspect the scp client isnt started with the users rights === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-29-82-248-214-143.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:55] ogra: oh ok....i have a workaround in the bzr branch that works [12:56] but I'm guessing you won't like it :p [12:56] what did you do ? [12:57] well... [12:57] i was advised a solution to it was this [12:57] move the scp script to place 74 [12:57] just before dbus is run [12:57] and get it to modufy $STARTUP so that it calls a new script [12:57] this new script calls scp-client [12:58] and then runs what would havebeen run at $STARTUP [12:59] twas a way of doing it only adding new files :p [01:01] thats indeed very very ugly [01:01] i know [01:01] but it least it confirmed wha tthe problem was [01:02] remember I'm still learning :p [01:04] what do people here use to write man pages easily? [01:05] ack gotta go [01:05] catch y'all later [01:05] catch y'all later [01:06] sure [01:06] sure [01:06] hehe [01:06] hehe === Seveaz [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === Seveaz is now known as Seveas [01:28] jsgotangco, you're repetitive [01:28] jsgotangco, you're repetitive [01:42] lol [01:42] lol [01:42] :D [01:47] when the aliens abducted me, the did nothing to me. to me. to me. to me. === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu [01:54] i for one, welcome our new ESR overlord [01:56] SABDFL in waiting? ;) === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A96FAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:58] hardly [01:58] it would be a fun if he starts making a scene though === jinty [n=jinty@66.208.16.135] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-29-82-248-214-143.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === foRza [n=forza@firewall.hikt.no] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-29-82-248-214-143.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === mpytasz [n=dduck@zipa2.fastnet.it] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === pipedrea1 is now known as pipedream === pipedream [n=pipedrea@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === wwwriter2 [n=wwwriter@195.66.162.28] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-29-82-248-214-143.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@224-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === caravena is now known as caravena|AFK === mpytasz [n=dduck@zipa2.fastnet.it] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [03:13] Goog time [03:14] May be who use Edubuntu in the University? [03:20] no university but a k12 [03:22] thanks === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-29-82-248-214-143.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [04:01] Heya === caravena [n=caravena@224-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [04:08] hi bddebian === wwwriter2 [n=wwwriter@195.66.162.28] has left #edubuntu [] === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [04:13] Morning all [04:13] hi sbalneav [04:14] Hello [04:14] Heya cbx33, sbalneav [04:15] sbalneav, btw ltsp is running on sparc;) [04:16] You're using a sparc box as a host? [04:36] sbalneav, he cheated :) [04:37] :) === mpytasz [n=dduck@zipa2.fastnet.it] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu [05:08] hehe [05:08] how was the trip ogra? [05:08] ok ... [05:08] (i had better ones than travelling 12h for 1200km though) [05:09] yeh i'll bet [05:10] they are just discussing tools to detect "copy/paste from internet cheating" [05:11] Maybe just cutting let's say 10 sets of 10 phrases from the document ang googling for them would be enough, if we get a number of hits, some bayesian probability could be calculated [05:11] right [05:12] but it gets very fuzzy with rephrased stuff [05:13] Remind me later, in September I was here (near Ancona) on bayesian related conference, I should have some materials about it [05:14] cool [05:14] there were guys from www.bayesian.org === caravena_ [n=caravena@119-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [05:23] hmmm === ogra waves goodbye ... [05:26] bye mr ogra [05:26] oh ogra [05:26] you still there? === caravena__ [n=caravena@184-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [05:57] argg [05:57] he left [06:00] i thoguht mdz was on holiday === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.42.148] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@66.208.16.135] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [07:34] cbx33: do you know where ogra went? [07:34] no [07:34] I don;t [07:34] Burgwork, do you want a meeting tomorrow morning? [07:43] ping LaserJock [07:49] Italy [07:50] in italy ... EU edulinux conference [07:52] cbx33: pong :-) === x-spec-t is now known as Spec === pscheie [n=pscheie@63.225.142.21] has joined #edubuntu [08:23] Is there any way to tell which repo an installed package came from? [08:24] pscheie: I believe so [08:25] pscheie: do you mean like Main Universe, etc. [08:25] pscheie: or like 3rd party repo stuff [08:28] I noticed that Kgeography is missing from my edgy install [08:28] it' supposed to be a part of kde edu [08:28] but I just installed it by hand [08:28] can't rememeber if I used apt-get or the GUI [08:29] now I'm trying to build a customized edubuntu livecd [08:30] I've got the file system from the cd copied to disk, and I've chrooted to that directory [08:30] but when I do 'apt-get install kgeography', it says no such package found [08:30] but I know it's available somewhere because I just installed it a few days ago [08:31] so I'm curious as to which repo it was in [08:31] must be part of kde-edu? [08:31] right, but kde-edu is already installed, right? [08:31] it is a part of kde-edu [08:31] err.sorry..i just stomped in [08:31] but it's in the Universe repo [08:31] pscheie: I ran apt-cache madison kgeography [08:32] Hey - just a note, not really edubuntu/ltsp specific, but I just found this out. You guys probably already know - a " .hidden " file in any directory containing a list of files/subdirs will hide them from nautilus. Good for hiding /bin, /etc, and others from the root dir. w00t! [08:32] and I get this for fiesty: [08:32] kgeography | 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 | http://photon feisty/universe Packages kdeedu | 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 | http://photon feisty/main Sources [08:32] lns:Cool [08:33] lns: yes, that is an interesting trick. Hard to do by default though as people get mad ;-) [08:33] Kubuntu tried it once, I believe [08:33] LaserJock, totally. Not something to do by default [08:33] but good for taking some things out for students to work easier [08:34] yes [08:34] unfortunately it doesn't hide them from things like open/save dialogues [08:34] :( [08:34] lns..theres a lot of tweaks too to eliminate navigating up thru your homedir to / [08:34] really? [08:34] cliebow_, can you elaborate? this is really useful info for me right now [08:34] let me pull the file [08:35] =) [08:35] I wonder if any of these tricks are documented in the handbook or on the website [08:35] nixternal: pingy pingy [08:35] LaserJock, i couldn't find this anywhere except for ubuntuforums and some other misc. postings on random sites - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76521 [08:36] that kind of customization stuff is gold [08:37] nautilus-desktop-icon-view-ui,xml..i commnet ourcmd name="New Terminal" [08:37] _label="Open Terminal" === lns is now known as lns_afk [08:38] _tip="Open a new Gnome terminal [08:38] nautilus-spatial-window-ui.xml [08:38] comment out _label="Open Parent" [08:38] _tip "Open the Parent Folder" [08:39] #accel="*Alt*Up" [08:40] lns: i use icewm with nautilus on top...in redhat..far quicker than gnome or kde [08:41] and just dont offer a terminal to anyone but admins === Nik0_ [n=lewmnik@AAmiens-156-1-94-112.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #edubuntu [08:57] cliebow_, i've yet to use icewm to a far extent... I tried it about a month ago and wasn't very pleased with the bugs [08:58] just little stuff that crashed, like parts of the config window..maybe it was specific to me but i dunno [08:59] not sure..ive been using it in production four years now [09:07] LaserJock: Universe was commented out in sources.list [09:08] so I uncommented it, ran 'apt-get update', and then tried 'apt-get install kgeography' again [09:08] but it still says 'Couldn't find package kgeography [09:08] ' === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu === pipedream [n=pipedrea@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === bronze [n=Lester@c-24-218-46-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === johansalim [i=G3b0ys@ip84-222.cbn.net.id] has joined #edubuntu === wizzy [n=andyr@kingklip.aims.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:15] pscheie: hmm [09:16] it *should* work === SnrWhippy [n=tom@88-111-52-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:39] LaserJock: well, that gives me hope anyway. ;-) [09:45] morning [09:45] mornin ajmitch === lns_afk is now known as lns [09:50] cliebow_, oops! Sorry, I was referring to xfce not icewm [09:54] lns:booking it..gotta check on my mom.. [09:54] bbl from home === jinty_ [n=jinty@66.208.16.134] has joined #edubuntu [09:58] sweeet [09:59] anybody using edubuntu here? [10:00] trying to avoid using windows at all see if its possible [10:00] hmm, I'm presently sitting at an OS X machine, ssh'd into a couple of Ubuntu boxes === cbx33 is using Ubuntu [10:01] but i have an edubuntu vm on standby [10:01] for development [10:01] yeah its been pretty good so far [10:02] had a bit of a fiddle getting wireless to use WPA-PSK with tkip [10:02] didnt just work thats for sure === lns has an edubuntu install w/12 clients and an ubuntu/LTSP implementation with 30 (future) clients [10:02] excellent yeah it would be interesting if any schools use it already anywhere [10:02] SnrWhippy, tons!! [10:03] where you from lns [10:03] Northern California [10:03] lns: where? [10:04] LaserJock, isn't there a webpage that shows all (recorded) installations around the world somewhere? [10:04] yeah most of the schools over here in the uk are victims of microsoft [10:04] hmm, perhaps [10:04] lns: I live in Reno, NV [10:04] hey that sounds good [10:04] SnrWhippy, most people everywhere are victims of M$...but that is changing, for sure [10:04] LaserJock, hey throw a quarter in a slot for me will ya? ;) [10:05] i'm lost on the country specific gag there [10:05] SnrWhippy, Reno = big gambling city [10:06] lots of money there then === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu [10:07] Here's a page that shows installs... I highly doubt this is anywhere near realistic in terms of number of installs, just people who care to say they installed it [10:07] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallations [10:07] I haven't even put mine in there yet [10:08] yeah would be good if it did it by default [10:08] tell you what the best tool is ever is that vmware converter prog [10:08] anyone used it [10:09] vmware converter? [10:09] yeah its amazing i've been waiting for it for ages physical to virtual [10:09] eh? [10:09] converter? [10:10] SnrWhippy, do you just mean vmware? [10:10] virtualization environment? [10:12] i was at work and for a laugh stole my workmates system from under his nose [10:12] ported into a virtual machine [10:12] going to try it on our servers [10:12] i think i just love free stuff [10:13] SnrWhippy, I'm about to embark on virtualizing Windows Server 2k3 in vmware on top of our ubuntu LTSP server [10:14] what would be slick, is that the server has 2 NICs and I'd want to utilize the second one for the VM [10:15] i better go need some milk from the shops at its nearly 10pm over here. [10:15] byeee thanks for link lns i've bookmarked it [10:17] SnrWhippy, keen to learn how you did that [10:18] would be useful [10:19] yeah get it downloaded [10:19] its amazing [10:19] it can take a running remote physical machine and turn it into a virtual image *.vmdk and *.vmx ready for running with vmware workstation or player [10:19] while someone is using it [10:19] what's it called [10:19] does it need installing on their machine? [10:20] SnrWhippy, no prob! [10:20] i could use that at work [10:20] need to do somthing like that [10:21] SnrWhippy, proejct name would be great [10:21] wow, that sounds pretty damn cool! [10:22] yeah vmware converter [10:22] its only recent they released the converter for free [10:22] anyway milk [10:22] byeee [10:31] I love vmware! =) [10:31] bye SnrWhippy! [10:31] thx for the info [10:32] im back and i have milk! sounds good lns let me know how it goes [10:32] yeah i dont see why that would be a prob [10:33] np SnrWhippy [10:36] hey i like this ntfs-3g thing too [10:36] for mounting ntfs partitions in ubuntu [10:36] useful [10:37] what do people use for video on ubuntu is it vlc or does anything top vlc? [10:37] vlc :) [10:37] I really like xine [10:37] totem works well too, kinda bulky thou [10:37] vlc is nice [10:37] mplayer too [10:37] SnrWhippy, surely that volume copying takes foreve? [10:38] on the converter? [10:38] for the converter its actually not that bad [10:38] and you must have to have the same storage on the VMWare server [10:38] than you do in the machine you are colning [10:38] yeah but only of used space [10:38] reallY? [10:39] does it dynamically grow the hdd then? [10:39] that's freakin awesome [10:39] yep [10:39] sooo [10:39] vmware is always awesome [10:40] whats this project name thing you want? [10:40] strange i got loads of messages at once [10:41] wish i could type faster might have to keep going on Ktouch [10:41] when it says the converter server intalls the agent on the client machine [10:42] what kind of authentication does it need to do that? [10:42] MS login credentials? [10:42] dose it handle network drives ok too? [10:44] lns you mentioned totem works well it didnt seem to have any codecs am i missing something off does it need something back end? [10:44] SnrWhippy, you need to install whatever video codecs your video requires [10:45] depending on what kind of vid it is, you might have to go 'illegal' and download some windows codecs [10:45] try googling for /usr/lib/win32 [10:45] something about that rings a bell [10:47] i think i am killing my connection with some transfers in the background === mathesis [n=sysadmin@189.131.34.99] has joined #edubuntu [10:48] hi [10:48] what's up mathesis [10:49] lns, do you speak spanish? [10:49] yep [10:49] it removes it afterwards [10:49] i used ms domain admin creds [10:50] i have run edubuntu server and 5 thin clients [10:51] Hi guys [10:51] i wan add other pc on the network [10:51] Does anyone know of a god how to for using gdm instead od ldm with edubuntu?????????? [10:51] cbx33: Hi [10:51] hey a5benwillis [10:51] how can acces internet for new computer into of the network ltsp [10:52] how do you mean? [10:52] i tell you what i shouldnt have installed this ubuntu ive been on the computer so much today i feel like my eyes are going to bleed [10:52] the wpa problem wasa bit of a pain [10:54] i'll keep googling [10:55] mathesis, sorry no :( [10:58] more like tell me what video codecs i dont require [10:58] lol [10:58] thats why i like vlc [10:58] i'm going to bed i'm wrecked! === bronze [n=Lester@c-24-218-46-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:00] non free codecs bain of my life [11:03] cheers lns i'll have a look [11:14] hahah [11:14] After linux is the dominant OS, we'll work on the video people ;) === pitux [n=pitux@119-94-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [11:41] ping Burgwork I'm off to bed now [11:41] will be up early tomrorow for a chat if you're around === opapo [n=daniel@205.118.116.108] has joined #edubuntu [11:46] does edubuntu have pessulus in its repository? [11:46] yes [11:47] thank you [11:47] edubuntu has the same repositories as ubuntu [11:47] Is pessulus easy to use? [11:48] Thank you for your help [11:49] opapo: I haven't tried pessulus in particular [11:49] opapo: I think it should be pretty easy [11:49] I've worked with pessulus's big brother sabayon [11:52] is sabayon easy? [11:52] I thought it was [11:52] sabayon does a lot more [11:52] it's more than just locking down gnome preferences [11:53] so it sort of depends on how much "locking down" you want to do === sonyvaio [n=sonyvaio@164.77.102.230] has joined #edubuntu [11:54] hola [11:55] me pregunto si me pueden echar una manito === sonyvaio [n=sonyvaio@164.77.102.230] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:02] LaserJock: I want students to use Firefox and OpenOffice and that's it [12:03] LaserJock, how stable is Sabayon? [12:03] could you see using it in a 100+ node environment? [12:03] depends on how you define stable I guess [12:03] =p [12:04] I know people who've deployed it at a uni with 500+ machines [12:04] opapo: hmm, and you *just* want to change the menus? [12:05] LaserJock, nice. Have you heard about any bugs/things to look out for/things it doesn't cover? [12:05] LaserJock: They can have icons on the desktop that they click on and everything else can be locked down so they can't do any thing else [12:05] that's what I want to happen [12:06] well, I'm sure there are bugs (there always are) [12:06] and the development has basically stopped [12:06] but I think it does a fair amount [12:06] scary [12:06] hmm...so maybe better using gconf-editor then [12:06] opapo: using icewm you can give buttons for only oo and ff [12:06] lns: well, sabayon is a profile editor [12:06] orphaned OSS projects make baby Jesus cry :( [12:07] add a locked down nautilus on top if you want deskto p icons [12:07] lns: it's not quite so much orphaned, just Red Hat was paying for the development and they moved their people to a different project [12:08] LaserJock: is pessulus kept up-to-date? [12:08] yes [12:08] opapo: I'd try pessulus first [12:08] see if it'll do what you want [12:08] thanks [12:08] I'm not quite sure if it will or not [12:08] if it doesn't I'd try sabayon [12:08] they are pretty easy to try out [12:09] so it wouldn't be much of an investment to just try them and see [12:09] but pessulus is actively developed and light [12:09] so it'd be the first choice I think [12:09] I like that it is actively developed [12:10] well, sabayon is getting a new developer [12:10] it's not like it's really old and rotten [12:11] but it isn't really active [12:11] I like active projects === SnrWhippy [n=tom@88-111-52-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #edubuntu []