=== firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-115-214-25.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee waves === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@cm41.epsilon48.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:35] hi Hobbsee ;) === poningru [n=poningru@wsip-70-168-186-68.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:35] hey Zerlinna :D [12:35] ;-) === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@wsip-70-168-186-68.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manchick@c-76-16-240-139.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@ppp-69-221-235-204.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:46] hmm i'm trying to test the upgrade manager and thought i followed the instructions correctly on the wiki page [01:48] anyone been able to use it? === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Venona [n=Venona@dhcp128.4200wisc.american.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:53] I am not sure if this is a feisty problem or kubuntu. But today i did a dist-upgrade and now after logging out I cant get the login box ... All i see is a "black and white snowy" screen. I tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver and I still get the same outcome. I dont have Beryl installed. I have a radeon card. [01:56] I tried both ati and vesa drivers and both same outcome === GNUro [i=GNUro@gateway/tor/x-47eabecc498bc150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kristjan_ [n=kristjan@85.196.211.60] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@ppp-69-221-235-204.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse === kristjan_ [n=kristjan@85.196.211.60] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@ppp-69-221-235-204.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:03] I still don't understand why this stupid thing is segfaulting. [04:03] It works in some places, but not others. [04:04] Alot more feisty updates. === ash211 [n=andrew@71-86-32-82.static.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:20] Interesting, it doesn't seem like the power manager is able to detect my processor CPU.... === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:29] manchicken: is it detecting your non-processor CPUs though? ;-) [04:30] Argh. [04:30] If I could type that'd rock. [04:30] My CPU speed. === _Sime_ [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:35] brb === manchicken [n=manchick@c-76-16-240-139.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:39] adept just crashed [04:41] yuriy: yay, so you get to test apport [04:41] Crashed how? [04:42] thought apport was only for non KDE apps? === Jucato is still confused about that [04:42] i tried to install java and the debconf thing popped up [04:42] but there was no accept button [04:42] i clicked next and it assumed i declined [04:42] whoa? [04:42] Jucato: heh well does adept register as a kde app or just plain qt? [04:42] i clicked next again, and it told me some packages couldn't be installed [04:42] i clicked ok and it crashed [04:43] and the lock is still there ugh === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-57-2.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:43] jdong: oh I thought it was a KDE app... :) === _Sime_ [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:43] (now the support question) [04:43] how do i get the lock back? [04:43] !adeptfix | yuriy [04:43] yuriy: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a [04:43] omg! I never thought I'd do that in here.... [04:44] Interesting. [04:46] oooh there's a checkbox [04:47] "if you don't pay any attention to the license you won't figure out how to accept it muahahaha" [04:49] Is there something wrong with 32bit compat stuff for amd64? [04:49] My 32-bit firefox install is unable to connect to anything. === jjesse [n=jjesse@ppp-69-221-235-204.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180112078.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-013-239.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:07] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava [05:07] That fixes that issue. === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:02] where did the storage devices kcm go? [06:03] *storage media [06:04] nvm found it [06:04] kind of confusing having it under notifications, though i see the logic [06:05] :) === Jucato finds the System Settings groupings more logical... but less easy to find if you've been used to kcontrol... === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:17] Hobbsee!!!! === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:21] Jucato: i find it harder to find things if you already know what you're looking for, but that's what the search for and that's how i found it [06:22] hey Jucato!!! [06:22] that's the problem.. people actually ignore that search feature... which really amazes me :) === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:27] yeah i never used it before heh [06:27] hiya Hobbsee! [06:28] hey yuriy :) [06:28] nice bug work, btw... [06:28] yuriy: you're adding to my inbox :P [06:29] Hobbsee: thanks. glad to overflow some mail folders [06:29] :) === Hobbsee wonders how much tonio_ or Riddell know about kdesu === Jucato wonders what about kdesu... [06:34] Jucato: bug 50971 [06:34] Malone bug 50971 in kdebase "kdesu will not start apps" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50971 [06:35] ouch... [06:37] rather [06:37] ok this is getting a bit... not amusing... :( [06:37] but previously we didnt know why it had failed - just that it randomly would [06:37] why do i not see that one [06:37] are we dropping support for GIF in Krita? [06:37] on confirmed [06:37] if i misread that maybe i should stop for the night heh [06:37] yuriy: dunno. i'd poke Riddell or tonio_ at that one though, see if they can squash it [06:37] *oh [06:37] (not on) === stephanbuys [n=stephanb@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:42] heh a workaround posted on a bug just solved a problem for me [06:42] yuriy: hrm? the sudo -K? [06:43] Hobbsee: no, bug 57666 [06:43] Malone bug 57666 in kdebase "Odd quirk when trying to install SMB Printers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57666 === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:45] yuriy: ahh, yes [06:45] Hobbsee: currently searching for dupes. of course i never bothered to do anything about the issue myself, but it's an annoying one [06:45] indeed [06:46] hmm looks like that's the only report. i find that strange because i ran into that on every machine i've tried to install a printer on [06:46] might be under ubuntu or something. maybe kdelibs. *shrug* === Hobbsee isnt sure what the solution is, either. [06:47] as always i'm tempted to up the importance just because i have the problem :o [06:48] hehe [06:48] not that i've done that.. === Hobbsee wonders what this metabar thing is [06:49] Hobbsee: in konqueror side bar, the thing with the M and gear [06:49] it gives you information about selected files and actions for some filetypes [06:49] could you possibly attach a screenshot to the bug? [06:49] seems it's not the thing that happens when you hit f9 [06:50] ooh, i see [06:50] Hobbsee: it's in that sidebar for f9 [06:50] yep [06:50] just noticed, it's not capitalized. that looks ugly [06:51] so it is. [06:51] well, i'ts enabled by default in feisty [06:53] yuriy: better to file that one upstream, but i'm almost certian it wont be fixed [06:54] (because upstream's focus is on kde 4) [06:54] Metabar [06:54] Hobbsee: which bug? [06:54] yuriy: the metabar one [06:54] bug 47406 [06:54] Malone bug 47406 in kdebase "Metabar issues (dapper)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47406 [06:55] k, cuz there were 2 [06:55] ah === Hobbsee doesnt remember the other one [06:56] Hobbsee: bug 80880 [06:56] Malone bug 80880 in kdebase "metabar broken in konqueror, 3.5.6" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80880 === Jucato tries to read up... === Hobbsee waits for the beta to connect [06:58] ironic how bug work is all non-OSS software: launchpad+opera [06:59] heh [06:59] yuriy: can't reproduce that last metabar bug === Hobbsee likes the new beta === Hobbsee cant, either [07:00] what beta? [07:00] hmm bug 58639, 54052: kdm should either depend on k-d-s or not refer to the kubuntu theme by default [07:00] Malone bug 58639 in kdebase "edgy: Cannot open theme file /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58639 [07:00] Malone bug 54052 in kdebase "Kdm configuration shouldn't point to kubuntu theme by default on minimal installations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54052 [07:00] Jucato: launchpad one [07:00] oh [07:01] unfortunately, it seems slower [07:02] can it get any slower? [07:02] yuriy: the other is a dupe of 58639 [07:02] soon it will be as slow as kde bugzilla :) [07:02] ugh [07:04] Hobbsee: basically i was thinking they suggest 2 different solutions, so keep open whichever one would actually get implemented [07:05] Jucato: there was a post on kdeplanet that said something about upgrading the kde bugzilla software recently. hopefully it'll be a noticeable change [07:05] yuriy: dunno on that one. [07:05] yuriy: maybe it would be best if kdm didn't depend on k-d-s and didn't refer to the kubuntu theme. then k-d-s could probably just set the proper kdm config when/if it's installed? [07:05] though they already had a fundraiser to get new servers for bugzilla, so i think it's as fast as it's gonna get === Hobbsee wonders abut setting a recommends on k-d-s [07:06] yuriy: a dev told me that b.k.o is actually running on the newer hardware they just bought (through donations) [07:06] I agree with Jucato and 54052 === Hobbsee doesnt like that second bug [07:06] yuriy: yeah. "kubuntu-specific kdm artwork packages." would be k-d-s right? [07:06] mainly due to the "shows some errors".... [07:06] yep [07:06] well yeah, but i mean as far as the solution goes [07:07] Hobbsee: you don't like the solution, or you don't like what the bug does? [07:07] i dont like the way the guy's reported the bug :P [07:07] ah ehehe [07:07] but yeah, it's probably a sane solution [07:07] dunno. would have to ask Riddell on it [07:07] I experienced this first hand a lot of times. but I didn't report it as a bug... [07:07] (shame on me) === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:09] shoulda searched earlier: bug 41720 [07:09] Malone bug 41720 in kdebase "In dapper, kdm should depend on kubuntu-default-settings or have a different default theme" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41720 [07:10] I'd go for not depending on k-d-s [07:10] maybe it was fixed in dapper but brought back in edgy? [07:10] Jucato: the solution in dapper was to make it unthemed by default, i guess that was changed in edgy === DaSkreech [n=skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:11] fdoving: ping? [07:11] probably a regression [07:11] dunno why i'ts marked as fix released, it's been rejected according to comments [07:11] hence the fdoving ping [07:12] Is the kicker being redone for 7.04? [07:12] DaSkreech: what do you mean? === Hobbsee would dupe the others of that, seeing as that has Riddell's response on it === Jucato weeps for bug 71711 [07:12] DaSkreech: with the clock, and new stuff on it? [07:12] Malone bug 71711 in koffice "Krita 1.6 in Edgy doen't open gifs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71711 [07:13] DaSkreech: ah the new kicker arrangement? yeah I think so [07:13] Si [07:14] I'm Looking at the Chap jjesse is working on. Seems to be describing the old kicker if I recall the changes being made [07:14] hm... [07:14] imbrandon: ping [07:14] would this be another one of those new features/changes unknown to the doc team? [07:14] DaSkreech: better point jjesse to the herd 4 kubuntu page === Hobbsee confirms [07:15] Jucato: possibly. most are discussed in here first, or are in changelogs [07:15] It was on the new herd page [07:15] Hobbsee: yeah, in this case it's on the herd 4 page already [07:15] I just hope we don't see something like the hidden-root argument w/ the doc team again === DaSkreech has been too lazy to get the new herd CD and it seems that my current feisty box is being a child [07:16] s/doc team/doc person/ [07:17] anyone having access to an amd64 machine willing to test the fix for bug 19482? [07:17] Malone bug 19482 in speex "speexenc segfaults on amd64" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19482 [07:17] I'm happy to walk anyone through the verification process [07:17] Hobbsee: i was commenting on the bugs and didn't read your comment. i duped them to 58639 and posted the solution and link 59 41720 [07:17] s/59/to [07:18] bug 58639 [07:18] Malone bug 58639 in kdebase "edgy: Cannot open theme file /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58639 [07:18] cool === Hobbsee shrugs [07:18] i'ts not a big problem [07:20] Hobbsee: feisty has KOffice 1.6.2 now too right? [07:21] hm... who's the maintainer for the mountconfig part of kde-guidance [07:22] masarah@LongPointyStick:~$ madison koffice [07:22] koffice | 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages [07:22] koffice | 1:1.6.1-0ubuntu3 | http://mirror.pacific.net.au feisty/main Packages [07:22] koffice | 1:1.6.1-0ubuntu3 | http://mirror.pacific.net.au feisty/main Sources [07:22] koffice | 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Sources [07:22] so, yes. [07:22] ah kool... [07:22] actually, unkool since no GIF yet :) [07:23] Whats pretty in 1.6.2? [07:23] http://www.koffice.org/announcements/announce-1.6.2.php [07:25] speaking of which, I wanted to update the kubuntu wiki as I have in the past but I can't login to my wiki account due to a booboo on my part, anyone here know a wiki admin? [07:26] Is 7.04 shipping with OO.obase? [07:26] Kexi [07:27] Hobbsee: http://jucato.org/stuff/freenode_plasma.log [07:27] Hobbsee: didn't have time to edit... so everything's there... including join/parts if there are any :) === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:28] Jucato: woot :) [07:28] Jucato: thanks! [07:28] lotusleaf: try #launchpad i guess [07:28] Hobbsee: thx i tried the other day and waited about 6 - 8 hrs but no reply :) I'll try again thx [07:28] lotusleaf: did you try on a weekend? [07:28] Jucato: I know it's shipping with Kexi. It's not shipping with Base? [07:28] Hobbsee: yup :) [07:29] DaSkreech: afaik, no more OO.o Base [07:29] As i had understood OO.o it was one huge core with each of the "apps" being views of the main core [07:29] Just wondered if it was actaully possible to remove an application from the suite [07:29] though I guess removing all the icons would effectively do the same [07:30] DaSkreech: not sure really. don't have feisty atm... but if they said "replace", I think they meant "take out the other one" [07:30] Yeah I figured. I just would have wanted to talk to the person who did that. AFAMUG that's a difficult task [07:31] hm... afamug.... [07:31] new acronym :) [07:31] Hobbsee: ok I'm asking in there again ;) [07:31] lotusleaf: that's why. most people dont work on weekends. [07:31] Hobbsee: ah, ok. :) [07:31] Hobbsee: thx again ;) [07:31] DaSkreech: maybe you can ask again when the people concerned are actually awake :) [07:33] Jucato: I will I just wanted to know As Far As My Understanding Goes ;-) === Jucato sort of understood what afamug meant :) [07:34] this plasma log thing is hard to read... === yuriy has no clue what afamug meant === Hobbsee has saved it, but hasnt read it yet [07:34] It's writen in Plasma what do you expect? [07:34] yuriy: As Far As My Understanding Goes ;-) [07:34] Though it is the most common substance in the universe... [07:35] no it's not, afaik [07:35] ah, right [07:35] yuriy: are there any other bugs with solutions listed? [07:35] I mean, it's not the most commun substance in the universe. fart is :) === Jucato runs and hide [07:35] Jucato: Only during election season === Jucato apologizes for the format of his plasma log. didn't have time to edit as he didn't have plans of putting it online until Hobbsee looked for a log [07:37] is kubuntu.org down? [07:37] By simply right-clicking on the desktop and selecting Configure Desktop a great deal of changes can be made. KDesktop, as the application is called, is divided into five different sections: background, behavior, multiple desktops, screen saver, and display. === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db44720.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:37] I have issues with this statement. Just checking if anyone else concurs [07:37] DaSkreech: where's that? [07:38] Hobbsee: you mean in general? [07:38] Jucato: Page 260 [07:38] yuriy: https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/55299 should be automatically fixed with the fade [07:38] nevermind it finally loads [07:38] Malone bug 55299 in kdebase "kdesu doesnt grab keyboard (unlike gksu)" [Undecided,Needs info] [07:38] yuriy: for kdebase. [07:38] but yeah [07:38] someone needs to make a patch for it === xerroz [n=xero@c-71-193-180-90.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:38] or is it more complicated? hrm. [07:39] Hobbsee: there were a couple with solutions, i'll find them [07:39] Is there anyway i can have install a fake distrobution ontop of my existing ubuntu? [07:39] DaSkreech: ah I don't have that... === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-14-51.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:39] Jucato: It isn't true for you either is it? [07:40] Hobbsee: bug 46682 has a patch [07:40] Malone bug 46682 in kdebase "ksplash hangs on initializing system services sometimes if "Start with an empty session" is enabled" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/46682 [07:40] "KDesktop, as the application is called, is divided into five different sections: " <--- this is the vague one [07:41] Jucato: Well. according to the instructions given.. it isn't [07:41] yuriy: can you email me the bug numbers / URL's to me? i'm heading out RSN [07:42] Hobbsee: alright. i was going to email something like that to the ml eventually [07:42] DaSkreech: technically, it's not KDesktop being separated into 5 sections. but the configuration dialog box [07:42] yuriy: that works too :) [07:42] Jucato: But it's not separated into 5 sections [07:42] That's my point [07:43] DaSkreech: well, not since Edgy at least [07:43] it's only 4 now [07:43] Ok I'll ask for that to be updated [07:43] I'll inform about vague wordiness as well [07:43] Display can now only be set through System Settings (or KControl). not sure if it's a KDE 3.5.x thing or Edgy only [07:44] DaSkreech: fwiw, the dialog box says "Configure - KDesktop" [07:44] I wish kcontrol would've been left in the kmenu [07:44] :) [07:45] It isn't? [07:45] how come Katapult picks it up? [07:45] DaSkreech: your setup maybe [07:45] Not that I remember what the K-menu is === DaSkreech hugs his katapult [07:46] Jucato: it works on yours as well don't lie about it :-P [07:46] it doesn't because I didn't add kcontrol to my kmenu :) [07:46] but I did add it in Kommando :P [07:46] freeflying, pong [07:47] I barely know what kcontrol is :-P [07:48] DaSkreech: had it been left in the kmenu... [07:48] imbrandon: are you busy now, need sponsor upload :) [07:48] lotusleaf: System Settings is a more friendly way of doing things [07:49] all hail! imbrandon'shere!! :) [07:49] DaSkreech: more friendly probably... but needs work, imho... [07:49] praise be the imbrandon [07:49] freeflying, sure, send me a message with the dsc/diff [07:49] heya guys [07:49] imbrandon: we (or I) missed you :D [07:49] and Sho's also missing you (or your nightly builds lol!) [07:49] i'm always arround, just dont speak as much ;) [07:50] Jucato, yea i know i have to fix those [07:50] Jucato: yup [07:50] But making it the only obvious choice forces us to work on it :) [07:50] hey imbrandon :P [07:51] heya Hobbsee [07:51] Oh I forgot to say good night [07:51] Good night all :) [07:51] except for you who are wearing sunglasses [07:52] imbrandon: just need sync skim from sid :) [07:53] sunglasses? [07:53] freeflying, ahh ok [07:53] Hobbsee: meaning "not night time" :) [07:54] ah [07:54] imbrandon: skim in ubuntu is not lintian clean now :) === Hobbsee has a pic published where's she's in sunglasses, see [07:54] Hobbsee: oh *that* pic? [07:54] :D [07:54] :P [07:54] imbrandon: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/skim/skim_1.4.5-1.dsc [07:54] gotcha [07:55] Hobbsee: raphink was the one near you in that pic right? [07:55] Jucato: er......no [07:55] Hobbsee: Why would i say good night to everyone but you? [07:55] Hobbsee: You have a pointy stick! [07:55] that was seele, and el [07:55] DaSkreech: dunno [07:55] Hobbsee: ah so not that other one [07:55] where was this? [07:56] Are you two talking on code? [07:56] in code rather? [07:56] Hobbsee: the one I "accidentally" saw from your site? same place where you have a pic w/ elkbuntu [07:56] so you have a new one eh? :D [07:57] oh that one... [07:57] raphink wasnt in that one [07:57] or any of those === Hobbsee ahsnt met raphink [07:57] ah ok [08:01] Woah [08:01] Pillow is calling [08:03] .o0(Scrawny Pencil Neck) [08:03] hrm? [08:03] DaSkreech: you're googling me? [08:04] Yeah You come back as Did you mean Hobbes? :) [08:04] pescado, the bastard... [08:04] for a second I was like yeah I do mean Hobbes. Great lil tiger [08:04] impressive. "Results 1 - 2 of 2 for sarah kubuntu longpointystick. (0.19 seconds)" === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:06] Apparently there is a guy named jjesse ina band called La'gay [08:06] That sounds like Maroon 5 :) [08:07] crimsun: heh. kubuntu and long pointy stick come up with some nice stuff, too [08:08] Doom4 :) [08:09] Mark shuttleworth for his performance in Million Dollar baby: The Ubuntu story [08:10] alright 25 edits in 10 pages is enough for the night [08:10] I'll finish tomorrow === DaSkreech laughs at the picture. Perfectionist: Sarah Hobbs [08:14] which picture? [08:15] http://www.beautifulstuff.org/images/perfectionist.jpg [08:15] haha [08:16] that's not me === Hobbsee is no artist === DaSkreech looks at the pointy stick === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-20-124.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech chooses not to argue [08:17] Hobbsee: did your patch in bug 56206 ever get committed? [08:17] Malone bug 56206 in kdebase "kpersonalizer (the first time wizard) starts every time I start KDE" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56206 [08:18] dunno [08:18] yuriy: it's fixed. [08:18] yuriy: i think they patched it another way though [08:18] Hobbsee: Tonio_'s solution solves a default install, but according to bug 60311 kpersonalizer still needs fixing for if you actually go out and install it [08:18] Malone bug 60311 in kdebase "Kpersonalizer start every boot AND after resolution issue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60311 [08:19] http://www.solomonprojects.com/artistpage/hobbs/img/periodic.jpg [08:19] a) it's not installed by default, b) i cant reproduce that - that's the way i tested === Hobbsee --> really out, or late for dinner [08:20] night Hobbsee [08:20] I thought that was fixed.... === DaSkreech is watching Baby Love Child by Pizzicato 5 (eponymous) [Kaffeine] [08:20] trying to test now [08:21] Hobbsee: ack? [08:22] fdoving: see backscroll === Hobbsee --> really out === Hobbsee --> LATE FOR DINNER! ARGH! [08:22] sounds like yummy dinner, too :) [08:22] ok. [08:22] see /var/lib/dpkg/info/kubuntu-default-settings.postinst [08:22] it modifies kdmrc [08:22] wonder who'll she'll it [08:22] er s/who/what/ [08:23] same goes for /var/lib/dpkg/info/kubuntu-default-settings.postrm [08:23] so if this problem is back, i don't understand anything. === fdoving checks kdebase packaging. [08:24] this is about kdm? [08:24] yes. [08:24] kdm and default theme. [08:25] maybe in kdm package then? [08:26] yes. that's what i suspect. === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:26] fdoving: kdmrc in the kdm package [08:27] yep. [08:27] UseTheme=true [08:27] Theme=/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu [08:27] tada! [08:27] that's the error. [08:27] that should be changed to something else. [08:27] UseTheme should be false, afaik [08:27] circles or whatever it's called. [08:27] doesn't matter really. [08:27] or we're going to use a theme by default? [08:28] why not? === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [08:28] no reason :) [08:28] circles is the default theme. [08:28] Good night all [08:28] nite DaSkreech. [08:29] yeah. unless you mean vanilla KDE, which doesn't use a theme at all [08:29] i mean, cicles comes with kdm. [08:29] oh yeah [08:30] that used to be the default in ubuntu, back when i closed bug 41720 [08:30] Malone bug 41720 in kdebase "In dapper, kdm should depend on kubuntu-default-settings or have a different default theme" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41720 [08:30] ah [08:31] no, it wasn't. [08:31] but then you'd also have to patch k-d-s to override the kdmrc settings if it's installed [08:31] that's already done. [08:31] in the postinst and postrm scripts. [08:31] ah [08:31] ok :) [08:32] it's been patched .. so it's a easy fix. [08:34] Riddell: on your next kdebase upload, please remove kubuntu_05_kdm_theme_config.diff it does no good. those things should be done in k-d-s, else kdm needs a depend on k-d-s (which i hope we don't want). [08:34] Riddell: ref. bug 58639 and 41720 [08:34] Malone bug 58639 in kdebase "edgy: Cannot open theme file /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58639 [08:34] Malone bug 41720 in kdebase "In dapper, kdm should depend on kubuntu-default-settings or have a different default theme" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41720 [08:36] lol i should get confused about what to do with bugs more often. it gets stuff done [08:36] fdoving: ah I see the post* files :) [08:38] good :) [08:39] I have to go visit a customer. bye. === stephanbuys [n=stephanb@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm41.epsilon48.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === doelman [n=doelman@dsl-087-195-000-098.solcon.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _doelman [n=doelman@dsl-087-195-000-098.solcon.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-88-152-214-188.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerroz [n=xero@c-71-193-180-90.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:09] Riddell: ping? Krita from KOffice 1.6.2 still has no GIF support? [12:11] people still use GIFs? [12:11] maybe... :) [12:13] Jucato: you have new powers [12:13] Riddell: heh thanks :) [12:13] um.. what does Access 20 bring? [12:14] Jucato: you can kickban people (like ali should he start swearing randomly again) [12:15] ah ok. but I'm already an op... just forgot my previous access level [12:15] thanks :) [12:21] Riddell: I added Jucato some time ago ;-) [12:21]