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lu-baowhen i have to reinstall OS so that i dont need internet connection but that i can restore everything back after a fresh new install from DVD :)12:13
yaccinhow can i get the butons on the sides of my mouse working?12:13
cpk1lu-bao: also I think there is a way to back up your cache to cd12:13
urantheri love how removing one package subsequently removes another 70 or so packages without telling me12:14
uranthernow i have to reinstall all this shit over again12:14
cpk1lu-bao: to do what you are talking about all you would have to do is put your backup into the cache and tell aptitude to not fetch anything12:14
lu-baocpk1, yes i can burn my archives folder but i will do that first time when it reaches a bigger size and when its patched at  best state and i have everything on it i need :)12:14
cpk1uranther: I am pretty sure all the APT frontends ask if you are sure before it does anything destructive12:15
urantheradept didn't just now12:15
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Mattias!baghira12:15
cpk1adept does, you need to click show changes12:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about baghira - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:16
yaccinuranther: izt shows how much it delets in the status bar12:16
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yaccinand theres always "preview changes"12:16
Mattiasanyone knows how to configure baghira easy for kubuntu?12:16
urantherwell i wasn't expecting it to do that12:16
urantherso i didn't preview changes12:16
cpk1lu-bao: basically though using dpkg is the hardway to do it =)12:16
urantherthere's not cancel button either12:16
urantherand my openoffice still doesn't work12:16
yaccin!mouse12:16
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto12:16
lu-baoat most i would love to build my own DVD with all software i need and packages too so that i never need internet again for restore my system with all configures i wanted :)12:16
lontraanyone know if there are tastymenu debs available?12:16
yaccini did one12:16
yaccinwhere can i host it?12:17
lontrafor the lastest version?12:17
yaccinoh12:17
yaccini dont know if it works12:17
yaccinit should12:17
yaccintastymenu_0.6.5-2_i386.deb12:17
urantheri looked in the bugzilla12:17
urantherand it said remove any accessibility packages12:17
lontrayaccin: yup12:17
urantherand it will fix the openoffice problem12:17
lontrayaccin: you could email it? or send it to me over irc?12:18
lu-baocpk1, yeah but i can write a script what dpkgs everything *gg* so that it installs everything on the fly then after installing the main dvd of ubuntu :) sure its not the latest patched version out of the internet since its a backup of cached installfiles but it restores everything how i need it without that i have to remember what i had installed before :)12:18
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yaccinlol12:19
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cpk1lu-bao: you dont even need a script, just put the debs into your cache and tell aptitude to not download anything...12:19
yaccinsending files crashes konversation ^^12:19
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yaccinah one moment12:19
lu-baocpk1, never did that before could get hard :)12:19
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yaccinlontra: ill upload it12:21
lontraok12:21
lu-baocause when ubuntu after 4 years is outdated (my version) i still can restore everything how it was so that i can use my notebook with all programs :) just want to get the safe way :)12:21
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matyasihello! could someone help me to set up wpa_supplicant? I tried to understand its man pages, but still seems not to work.12:22
yaccinlu-bao: ever heard of dist-upgrade?12:22
bianconeriHello I am trying to install battleball (a game) using aptitude...it says that it will need to install the package but remove around 150 others on my system, most of them have no relation to battleball :S12:22
yaccin^^12:22
lu-baoyaccin, mh um yes i did ^^"12:22
yaccinlontra: http://bennid.de/files/linux/debs/12:22
lu-baoand that it loves to break systems :D12:23
lu-baoyour dist upgrade :P12:23
lontrayaccin: thanks :)12:23
lontrayaccin: i'll test it12:23
yaccinlu-bao: you sure youve done it right?12:23
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bianconeriany idea what the problem may be?12:23
lu-baoyaccin, i am sure i never did that before but others did and they screamed like hell later *fg* lol12:23
yaccin1. edit sources.list 2. update 3. dist-upgrade 4. install kubuntu-desktop 5. upgrade (repeat as often as neccessery) 6. force isntall other new packages 7. reboot12:24
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yaccinworked for me every time12:24
lu-baosooo um but look what happens later when kubuntu will not support my videochip anymore of my notebook i have to stay at my kubuntu version cause this one includes via cle266 drivers ^^"12:24
yaccinlontra: tell me if it works ^^12:24
cpk1bianconeri: i just installed battleball without any problems12:24
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cpk1bianconeri: what does it want to remove and have you been using another package manager like adept?12:25
yaccinlu-bao: dont know ^^12:25
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lu-baoyaccin, its just that i need this kubuntu version what supports my 3D onboard chip but i need ftp / browser and other clients too like irc client cause that i need to backup my cache :)12:25
yaccinwell you are not forced to upgrade ^^12:26
pirois it possible to hotswap sata drives?12:26
pirodoes the libata do that now?12:26
cpk1lu-bao: most likely there will always be legacy drivers, but its not going to remove the drivers you currently have unless it has ones it can replace them with12:26
lu-baoyes but later i surely wont get packages again (for the old kubuntu then) what works at my laptop :/12:26
yaccinlontra: hmm i think it doesnt work, does it?12:26
yaccinlu-bao: thats true12:26
yaccinbut as it works... :)12:26
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lu-baolater maybe some browsers need newer dependencies i dont have inside my (then) old kubuntu version12:27
j__Can anyone tell me what the X server actually is? Is it KDE?12:27
bianconericpk1: I used apt-get before but mostly been doing aptitude (a no no?)....also used automatix212:27
lu-baoand when kubuntu stops to support my via cle266 videochip i have to stay at this one :)12:27
yaccin!X12:27
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:27
Admiral_Chicagoj__: no it's a graphic handler12:27
uranther!openoffice12:27
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org12:27
Adydasj__: are you using kubunut or ubuntu12:27
j__Kubuntu12:27
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Adydasthen its KDE based12:27
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j__I need to install nvidia drivers for my old Geforce3 and it says I need to stop X12:28
cpk1bianconeri: well automatix is a no-no12:28
lu-baookay i bet youre are right and i am just freakish paranoid X.x12:28
j__Thanks guys12:28
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bianconeriya I knew that, I just needed an operatable system fast ....I usually don't use it12:28
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lu-baoi cant see that far into future cant say what is then maybe i got a newer laptop till then :>12:29
travhello, how do i get past the email set up in evolution?12:29
cpk1bianconeri: if you are feeling adventurous you can let aptitude fix everything (copy down everything it removes) and then try installing those again, however once when I tried isntalling stuff with adept it freaked aptitude out and I let remove some 200 odd packages and it sorted everything out for me somehow...12:30
lu-baohow to check my version?12:30
yaccin!deb12:30
bianconerihmm lemme share with you the output then maybe you could detect something i couldnt http://pastebin.ca/36686112:30
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)12:30
cpk1bianconeri: also, as far as I know automatix doesnt do anything that you cant do in 15 minutes12:30
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BluesKajautomatix is easy but it also breaks pkgs12:31
cpk1lol my kde kicker just crashed...12:31
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lu-baoat ubuntu i can doubleclick .deb files for install and at kubuntu i have to rightclick them?12:31
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bianconericpk1 I have always been installing stuff on *ubuntu by myself...its just that other day spent a good 5 hours on configuring (low speed net)....only for me breaking the system 1 hour later...I got fed up and took the easy way out12:32
carlos_hola12:32
BluesKajhow does kwallet work ?12:32
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bianconeriBluesKaj: can you be more specefic?12:32
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cpk1everytime you want something to use a saved form you need to have it be open12:32
bianconeriIt just saves your password12:33
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BluesKaji don't see how it replaces the need for pws12:33
Adydasit saves them not replace them12:33
tucoHiyo all.12:33
BluesKajstill have to enter the pw12:33
Adydasfor the wallet, not each program etc12:33
cpk1BluesKaj: because you only need one for kwallet and you can save many different passwords for different things12:33
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BluesKajnot in a multiuser situation12:34
bianconericpk1 did you see my pastebin?12:34
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vrkhansi having problem in partioning my hard dirve12:34
yaccinconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check12:35
yaccin:/12:35
Adydasyou need to install c++ or g++ i had that, forgot what one12:35
Adydassudo apt-get install c++ cpp12:35
yaccinoh true12:35
Adydasits one of those 2 /3 combos12:35
tucoI need to install Flash Player for Firefox. I went into the guide but got lost.12:35
cpk1bianconeri: your right, those have nothing to do with battleball and it probably is confused because not all your stuff was installed with aptitude so it didnt mark or somesuch, aptitude is actually kind of complex, those are probably all in your cache though and you could probably reinstall them right away if you decide to let aptitude fix it all, otherwise apt-get probably wont complain about anything12:35
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Adydasi think it was cpp12:35
Adydasyaccin:12:35
yaccinkdevelop doesnt have it as a dependency12:35
yaccino.O12:35
vrkhansmy hard drive already have partion but kbuntu installer is not showing all the other partions12:35
lu-baoyaccin,  do you know how i check out what version of kubuntu i have? :)12:36
vrkhansi  am in kbuntu running live cd12:36
bianconeriRecommended solution? Fix or Ignore ?:D12:36
vrkhansso if any one can help me in installing kbuntu12:36
bianconeriwould ignoring cause complications in the future?12:36
yaccinlu-bao: ctrl + alt +f1 maybe... and then ctrl +alt +f7 ;)12:36
cpk1lu-bao: cat /proc/version12:36
yaccinah12:37
yaccinol12:37
bianconerivrkhans: elaborate? what problems are you facing?12:37
yaccinok12:37
yaccin:D12:37
Adydaslu-bao: cat /proc/version12:37
vrkhansi am trying to install linux12:37
lu-baothx :)12:37
cpk1bianconeri: well obviously aptitude isnt going to miraculously forget =P12:37
tucoSomebody knows the best way to install Flash Player folks?12:37
Adydasi think thats what your after12:37
lu-baoah thats awesome never met such a nice community before at linux :D12:37
vrkhansbut the installer doest not showing all the partion12:37
Adydastuco: apt-get install12:37
Adydaslu-bao: did it work? that what you want?12:37
bianconerido you want to dual boot?12:38
tucoI have downloaded the tz file Adydas12:38
yaccincpk1: dopenst shows the version of (k)ubuntu... only kernel etc12:38
BluesKajvrkhans, what partitions do have on the drive ?12:38
vrkhansjust one big chunk of 137gb12:38
yaccinyou cant see if its edgy, hoary, feisty etc12:38
Adydastuco: sounds like you should try an apt-get install before considering use of a gunzip file12:38
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tucoDon't know what to do with it12:38
BluesKajwhat is the format ?12:38
bianconeriAnd the 137 is originally what?12:38
vrkhansi already have windows installed and total 4 partion , which i can see in windows12:38
cpk1bianconeri: if it was me i would let aptitude do its thing (but copy into a text file everything its removing) and then go from there since most if not all the packages should be in the cache, but feel free to use apt-get12:38
vrkhansbut not in linux12:39
vrkhansinstaller12:39
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lu-baolinux version 2.6.17-11-generic (gcc version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (ubuntu 4.1.113ubuntu5)) (ubuntu 2.6.17-11.35-generic)  <-- is that newest kubuntu ? :)12:39
tucoAh ok. But then I have to download the file from the konsole right?12:39
Adydastuco: check out http://adydas.net/linux/ and go to the apt-get and repos page it should help you12:39
yaccinlontra: im making a new one right now12:39
vrkhansdoes there any other good partion manager in ubuntu which can show me all my other partion12:40
bianconerimost packages are Gnome anyways :P12:40
Adydastuco: sounds excatly like what you need, just down the bottom you need to serch for flash and install flash12:40
vrkhanslike mandrake12:40
bianconerigparted12:40
yaccinvrkhans: qtparted12:40
vrkhansin mandrake it can read all my partion12:40
yaccinah ubuntu12:40
yaccin^^12:40
bianconerivrkhans: gparted12:40
cpk1lu-bao: sorry its /proc/versio_signature12:40
vrkhansbut can i install it12:40
BluesKajGParted live cd is the partition editor to use12:40
vrkhansi am running the live cdd12:40
cpk1yaccin: yeah its /proc/version_signature12:40
Adydaspisser, i was close12:41
lu-baocpk1, ubuntu 2.6.17-11.35-generic  <-- newest?12:41
Adydasits what im using12:41
cpk1lu-bao: sorry for typo, cat /proc/version_signature will tell you the ubuntu release12:41
BluesKajyes vrkhans , but what kind of partitions do you have ?12:41
cpk1oh wait no it wont12:41
cpk1damn12:41
cpk1i forget where it hides =(12:41
Adydastuco: how you getting on?12:41
lu-baocpk1, ah dont worry no problem typos are naturally :)12:41
bianconeriOk then another problem but more gory.... I am running Kubuntu dapper and I have an Acer F-19 screen and a samsung 40 HD LCD, and I wanna run them both together. So I hooked up the LCD using s-video the boot up process appears, but as soon as X launches it goes bezerk....12:41
yaccincpk1: which also only shows kernel version ^^12:42
stdincpk1: lsb_release -a12:42
yaccinyaccin@Hephaistos:~$ cat /proc/version_signature12:42
yaccinUbuntu 2.6.20-8.14-generic12:42
cpk1stdin: thanks T.T12:42
stdincpk1: :-)12:42
lu-baocpk1, okay i downloaded kubuntu dvd 2days ago and updated it today evening but do i have newest kubuntu version ? ^^" or stable old one?12:42
yaccinah12:42
cpk1it SHOULD be in proc if you're asking me...12:42
yaccinthis is nice12:42
vrkhanshow i can mount my hard disk12:42
yaccin:D12:42
vrkhansin linux12:42
tucoTRying to find the part you are talking about12:42
vrkhansto see al the partions12:43
cpk1lu-bao: yes its the newest kernel for edgy12:43
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lu-baocpk1, so i am up to date with everything? :)12:44
BluesKajvrkhans, are you reading any of the questions or suggestions ppl are giving you ?12:44
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cpk1your kernel is up to date12:44
yaccinlontra: i have a working package12:44
yaccinuploading now12:44
lu-baoum okay ^^12:44
bianconeriAny suggestions for my dual monitor problem?12:44
AdydasDual monitor tastic12:45
vrkhanssorry12:45
Adydaswhat vid card you got12:45
vrkhansi am looking something else12:45
Adydasbianconeri: what vid card12:45
vrkhansplease address my id when any of you are talking to me12:46
lu-baocpk1, thank you for your help :)12:46
vrkhansbecause this the first time i am using irc12:46
tucodamn can't seem to find the info Adydas12:46
bianconeriAdydas: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)12:46
Adydascool12:46
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Adydastry adding this..12:47
BluesKajwe are vrkhans , but you arent reading or responding , all you do is ask the same question12:47
cpk1can you use s-video and 15pin out at the same time?12:47
Adydasyes12:47
Adydasbelive so12:47
vrkhansblueskaj i am confuse12:47
Adydaserr12:47
vrkhansi am trying to figure out what you guys are saying12:48
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Adydasbianconeri: in your xorg.conf you need to add some lines12:48
Adydasit got me cloned out put12:48
Adydasits a start12:48
BluesKajvrkhans, what partitions can you see on the hard drive12:48
vrkhansbut please explain me in detail12:48
yaccinlontra: http://bennid.de/files/linux/debs/kubuntu/feisty/12:48
bianconeriI want cloned :)12:48
vrkhansin windows or in here12:48
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BluesKajanywhere12:48
tucoAdydas do I have to add a repository at all?12:48
vrkhansin windows i have four partions12:49
vrkhansbut over here installer just show one partion of 137gb12:49
vrkhansno seprate partions12:49
Adydastuco: remove the #'s from the deb lines12:49
flaccid!webcam12:50
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras12:50
tucoI am lost now :-( arf!12:50
lu-baotuco, why?12:50
tucoI did sudo apt-get update12:50
vrkhansi tried mandrake its installer can read and show all the partions12:50
BluesKaj!partitions12:50
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter12:50
Adydasdid you do the repos first in sources.list12:50
bianconeriAdydas: what line should I add?12:50
tucodownloaded the tz file onto the desktop12:50
Adydasstart at the start of that file12:50
Adydasignore the GZ file12:51
tucobut don't know what to do next!12:51
tucoAh12:51
Adydasit is nothing to do with it, and the worste way to get it done12:51
tucoOooops12:51
Adydasstarting a fresh12:51
tucook12:51
Adydasfollow from the start of here12:51
Adydas#deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted12:51
Adydasdeb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted12:51
Adydaserr12:51
Adydashere http://adydas.net/linux/repos.html12:51
vrkhansin kubuntu12:51
Adydasit will get you to open your apt sources, remove some #s ( like above )12:51
vrkhanswhat i should do12:51
Adydasapt-get update12:52
Adydasthen allow you to use apt-get to install the flash12:52
tucoOk so first I have to add the repositories right?12:52
BluesKaj!partitons > vrkhans12:52
Adydastuco:  Bingo12:52
tucoI have to be in root too?12:52
Adydasby deleating the #'s from the start of the lines that look like12:52
cpk1vrkhans: how many partitions does sudo fdisk -l say you have?12:53
Adydastuco: follow the commands in that website12:53
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Adydasit uses root when needed, not when not needed12:53
stdin!repos12:53
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:53
Adydasit starts Firstly open your apt get sources file by running the following command12:53
Adydaskdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:53
Adydasthere12:53
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Adydastheres a picture, it should open a window like my picture you see it?12:54
frojndcan xubuntu be installed as kubuntu? via live cd and desktop install?12:55
tucoOk in sources list now...12:55
Adydastuco: now follow the rest of the website12:55
stdinfrojnd: yeah, you can also install it along side kubuntu12:55
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frojndstdin: thx12:56
Adydastuco:  use a bit of spot the difference skills with the 2 large grey boxes near the start12:56
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stdinfrojnd: http://www.xubuntu.org/get <- you can get the desktop ISO from here12:57
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tucoNow I need to install12:59
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Adydasu done the update?12:59
tucoyes master12:59
Adydasnice work.. now use the part about apt-cache to find what you need01:00
Adydasi belive apt-cache search flash should be a good start01:00
Adydasif your using mozilla libflash-mozplugin - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin looks to be the correct package01:01
tucothere is this: flashplayer-mozilla - Macromedia Flash Player01:01
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Adydassudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla01:02
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Adydassee if it does the trick01:02
vrkhansok no i have that qtparted running but still it doesnt show me all the other partions01:02
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stdinif you want to view flash above flash 7 you'll need flashplugin-nonfree01:02
Adydasah wicked01:02
Adydasther eyou go tuco01:02
stdin(version 7)01:02
stdinfrom multiverse01:03
tucoAdydas you trickster hey :-)01:03
vrkhansit is showing the whole drive but no the individual partions which i made in windows01:03
tucoI need version 8 or above01:03
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stdintuco: flash (from adobe) version 9 is available from edgy-backports in multiverse, the package is flashplugin-nonfree01:04
stdin(also dapper-backports afaik)01:04
stdinthere is no version 8 for linux tho, and it's only for x86, not 64bit or power-pc01:05
vrkhansjust showning the whole 178gb unallocated01:05
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tucoI got this: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another p            rocess01:07
frojndthat's funny where can I add new connection (DSL)01:08
stdintuco: try "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"01:08
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tucook killed01:09
vrkhanswhat kind of partion manager mandrake use01:09
vrkhans?01:09
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stdinvrkhans: no idea, but probably it uses parted as a backend, like gparted01:10
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tucoI need to kill adept manager now01:11
vrkhansactually i had installed mandrake 8 on my system now in kubuntu it is not showing any partion what madrake is installed01:11
tucosays don't have permission01:11
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stdintuco: use sudo01:12
stdintuco: and do: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock01:12
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slyfoxWho here uses Calendar a lot from Kontact - I have a few question about it ?01:13
vrkhansis it possible i can use mandrake and partion my hard drive and use the same to install kubuntu01:13
vrkhansuse mandrake to partion01:13
tucostill stuck with adept :-(01:13
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stdinvrkhans: yeah, as long as you don't install after the partitioning01:14
vrkhansok but can i see those partion in kubuntu01:14
vrkhansbecause i cant see my windows partion in kubuntu01:15
tucoI guess I am stopping for tonight. Need some sleep...Kubuntu has taken me 3 full days, dangerously addictive. And oh wait I can see some windows logo out of sight...Hasta la Vista baby!01:15
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stdinvrkhans: I can't think of any reason why you shouldn't see the partitions in kubuntu01:16
vrkhansbut i can see my windows partion currently01:16
vrkhansi have windows already installed01:16
vrkhansi cant01:16
tucoThanks folks for your kind help as usual :-) Thumbs up and I see you soon.01:16
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stdinlater tuco :)01:17
vrkhansI will be back01:17
tucoCheerios guys. Good day or good night.01:17
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bonbonthejonis anyone here trying feisty01:23
yaccin<<01:23
yaccinfeisty <301:23
bonbonthejonyaccin: did you upgrade from edgy? or fresh install?01:23
yaccinfresh isntall01:23
yaccinnew pc01:23
yaccinwell01:24
bonbonthejonyaccin: hmm01:24
yaccinnot complete new pc01:24
yaccinbut most parts of it01:24
yaccin:D01:24
yaccinwhats the problem with upgrade?01:24
bonbonthejonyaccin: I remember having problems going dapper->edgy, I am afraid to do edgy-->feisty01:24
yaccinhmm01:24
yaccin1. edit sources.list 2. update 3. dist-upgrade 4. install kubuntu-desktop 5. upgrade (repeat as often as neccessery) 6. force isntall other new packages 7. reboot01:25
yaccinshiuld work01:25
yaccin^^01:25
yaccin*should01:25
bonbonthejonyaccin: yeah, but going from dapper X got messed up and I reinstalled to fix the problems01:25
yaccindapper > edgy was no problem for me01:26
yaccindid it like i described above01:26
yaccin:/01:26
bonbonthejonyaccin: yeah. so in sources.list I just change all the edgy's to feisty's?01:26
yaccini think so01:26
yaccinuse replace funkction in kate :)01:27
stdinfeisty is still an alpha, it's not reccommended to upgrade to feisty yet01:27
stdin(just a note)01:27
yaccintrue true01:28
yaccinbut runs stable here :)01:28
stdinyeah, I run it too01:28
bonbonthejonstdin: I know, but I dont mind trying it01:29
stdinbut it's just a warning, don't expect it to be stable, it isn't01:29
bonbonthejonstdin: what isnt stable for you?01:29
stdinnothing in particular, but feisty isn't classed as stable, it's in alpha stage atm, it could break at ant time01:30
stdinsome users can't start X for example01:30
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stdinbut if you want to test it, please do, we need testers01:31
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bonbonthejonstdin: I've done some of the past releases before they went stable01:31
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bonbonthejonstdin: I guess ill try it01:31
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yaccingood luck :)01:31
yaccini love the new kopete :)01:32
yaccinskinnable contact-list \o/01:32
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chavoI'm running feisty here, did the upgrade dapper -> edgy -> fesity no problem01:32
stdinI always run the devel release, to test it and report bugs, so If you feel you want to test it, go ahead. testers are welcome01:32
croustiHello !01:32
bonbonthejonyaccin: i think it tried that out, there was a patch on kde-look that did something similar, maybe they included it into kopete01:33
bonbonthejonhi crousti01:33
yaccinyes aparrently they did ^^01:33
yaccinive also seen that patch01:33
yaccinbut i wasnt able to include it by myself01:33
yaccinand there were no packages for ubuntu :(01:33
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bonbonthejonyaccin: you had to patch the kopete source code, then compile01:34
atoolSo, i can't for the life of me get kdm to launch at boot even though /etc/X11/default-siplay-manager is set01:34
yaccini know01:34
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stdinbonbonthejon: kde 3.5.6 is default in feisty, lots of bug fixes there, you'll like it :)01:34
yaccindidnt work01:34
yaccinanyways01:34
yaccinnow i dont have to ^^01:34
bonbonthejonstdin: I got 3.5.6 from kubuntu.org01:34
yaccinaww just another kopete-update ^^01:34
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stdinbonbonthejon: yeah, but it's default in feisty, and releases for feisty come out *before* they do for edgy :)01:35
bonbonthejon\me is downloading the packages now01:35
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bonbonthejonthere we go01:35
yaccinhttp://bennid.de/files/linux/debs/kubuntu/feisty/01:35
yaccin:)01:35
=== stdin thanks Riddell for that
atoolbrings me to tty at login each reboot, though i can start kdm no problem if i init.d it... any ideas?01:36
vrkhansi am back01:37
vrkhansany solution01:37
vrkhanshow i can see all my partion01:37
stdinatool: are the links in /etc/rc2.d for kdm, eg: /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm ?01:38
atoolstdin: no they're not... what's the best way to add them? manually?01:39
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vrkhanshow i can mount my windows partions01:41
bonbonthejon!partions01:42
bonbonthejon!partion01:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about partions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about partion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:42
bonbonthejon!mount01:42
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter01:42
stdinatool: I think "sudo update-rc.d -n kdm multiuser 99 01" is the best way01:42
bonbonthejon!windows01:42
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents01:42
stdinatool: opps, take the "-n" out, so "sudo update-rc.d kdm multiuser 99 01"01:42
bonbonthejon!ntfs | vrkhans01:42
ubotuvrkhans: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:43
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atoolstdin: looks like it's already in rc1, not rc2 (sorry just looked in rc2)...any other ideas?01:44
atoolstdin: K01kdm -> ../init.d/kdm01:45
atoolstdin: oddly gdm is in rc1 and rc201:46
stdinatool: you need them in rc2.d, that's the default run level, if update-rc.d doesn't work (with the -f flag) you can just make the links "cd /etc/rc2.d && sudo ln -s ../init.d/kdm S99KDM"01:46
stdinatool: if /etc/X11/default-display-manager says to use KDM, GDM won't start01:47
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stdinatool: but try "sudo update-rc.d -f kdm multiuser 99 01" forst01:47
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atoolstdin: gives the error/warning "System startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm already exist."01:48
atoolstdin: should it be 99 02?01:48
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Hueymy kde desktop background is now stuck showing one image, even when i try to change it through kcontrol01:48
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Hueywhat setting file do i need to edit/delete to unlock the desktop background?01:49
stdinatool: it should be 99 (so it's starts last) and 01 (so it stops first)01:49
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stdinatool: so just try making the link yourself, with "cd /etc/rc2.d && sudo ln -s ../init.d/kdm S99kdm"01:49
dx11101howcome in kde i can only get sound out of one program at a time?01:49
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atoolstdin: k thanks, i'll give that a try, brb.01:50
stdinHuey: what about when you change it by right-clicking on the desktop and choosing "Configure Desktop" ?01:51
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VenonaI am not sure if this is a feisty problem or kubuntu. But today i did a dist-upgrade and now after logging out I cant get the login box ... All i see is a "black and white snowy" screen. I tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver and I still get the same outcome. I dont have Beryl installed. I have a radeon card.01:51
stdinVenona: are you running feisty, or edgy/dapper ?01:51
Venonafeisty01:52
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stdinVenona: ask in #ubuntu+1 or (if no one answers) in #kubuntu-devel01:52
stdinfeisty is still alpha, and #kubuntu is for the stable versions01:53
Venonak01:53
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atoolstdin: thanks a lot man, that worked... it was driving me crazy01:54
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Hueystdin: yes, that's what i mean. I've tried No picture and Picture (selecting a different picture), but my original image is still being displayed01:54
Hueystdin: and this survives logins and reboots01:54
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stdinatool: no problem, glad it works :)01:55
atoollater all... thanks for the quick help :)01:55
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stdinHuey: that's strange indeed01:55
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Hueystdin: i'm thinking that removing my .kde directory might work, but that seems drastic; i'm hoping to narrow it down a little more01:56
stdinHuey: I don't know what would cause that, (and I doubt anyone here knows) so try asking in #kde before taking "drastic" measures01:57
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stdinHuey: HINT: try changing the line "Wallpaper=...." in ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc01:59
uranthercan anyone help me with openoffice? i'm on kubuntu dapper drake and openoffice crashes everytime i start it, in the midst of loading01:59
userundefineduranther: start it from the command line so it'll tell you what errors are making it crash02:00
urantherit doesn't give me any errors.. i'm running it from the console02:00
urantherit gets to about 35% loading then it stops, and says it will recover any files that were opened02:01
urantherwith no errors02:01
drkmI am trying to upload a directory which has other directories with files in them.. is there a way I can upload it via ftp/ncftp which will automatically create the right directories for me?02:01
stdindrkm: konqueror won't do that for you ?02:02
drkmnever used it for ftp02:03
drkmI'll try02:03
surgyuranther: whats the command you give to run office?02:03
stdinit's a nice app for ftp02:03
stdindrkm: in koqueror, just copy the dir you want, and paste to the ftp server, it should copy all the sub-dirs02:04
uranthersurgy: ooffice, oodraw, whatever, none of them work02:04
drkmok cool thanks02:04
stdinkonqu is a very useful app :)02:04
userundefined<3 konqueror02:04
surgyuranther..... if it gives no errors i cant help much, maybe remove the package and reinstall it?02:05
stdin<3 koqueror & konversation (SVN version)02:05
uranthersurgy: tried that many times02:05
surgystdin: any ideas about uranther's problem?02:06
urantherthe bugzilla mentions it might be because of accessibility packages installed, but i uninstalled of those and still doesn't work02:06
urantheri've also removed ~/.openoffice02:06
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stdinsurgy, uranther: no, not really, but there is a channel for OpenOffice: #openoffice.org it may be the next place to ask02:07
uranthertried them02:07
uranthernot much more help02:07
urantherplus they're not very active :P02:07
stdinit also may be a Java problem, as OOo depends heavily on that02:08
urantherok lemme try that02:09
urantheri also tried installing mozilla because i know it depends on that for some reason too02:09
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stdinmaybe it needs the gecko stuff02:11
urantheri'll install the blackdown java sdk02:11
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stdinsun java may be better02:11
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urantheroh :|02:12
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urantherare there hardware recommendations for kubuntu? :P02:18
urantheri think my computer is lacking02:18
urantherlike, err, wtf, where did adept go? it never opened02:19
stdinI think, 192MB RAM and 1GHz CPU is recommended02:20
stdin(don't quote me tho)02:20
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urantheroh i have 512mb and 1700+ (1.4ghz)02:21
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urantherbut crap video card02:21
stdinthat's fine for kde02:21
urantheri run a lot of programs02:21
urantherbut i have 158mb ram free so i guess it's cool02:22
stdinI have 512MB and 1.8GHz with an intel GPU, KDE runs fine, make sure you have about 1GB of swap tho02:22
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uranther815mb swap02:23
urantheri didn't make that up o_O02:23
stdinshould be ok, but 1GB swap is reccommended anyway02:23
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urantheri dunno maybe i did, because swap is supposed to be at least 1.5x your ram size02:23
stdinuranther: it's at most 1.5 * ram, the more ram, the less swap you neeed02:24
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urantheroh :/02:25
uranthermaybe i should install openoffice from the package on their website?02:26
urantherseems like i tried that before though...02:26
esaymmy keyboard has some shortcut keys, anyone know how to coonfigure them?02:26
esaymthe volume and email ones work, but the internet one doesnt02:27
stdin!shortcut02:27
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net02:27
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stdinkeytouch may be what you want02:27
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stdin!info keytouch edgy02:28
ubotukeytouch: A program to configure the extra function keys of the keyboard. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 412 kB, installed size 1824 kB02:29
tjzdaskreech u here?02:29
esaymI will look into keytouch02:30
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tjzanyone know of any good p2p programs?02:34
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AdydazKtorrent for bit torrents allright02:35
Adydazazuerus is better i belive..02:35
urantherktorrent is very good02:36
tjzkool02:36
urantherhey, how the hell do i get past this license crap with sun java02:36
stdin!p2p02:36
ubotuConventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.02:36
urantheri already accepted the license but now it wants me to hit ok02:37
urantherand enter doesn't work02:37
uranther!02:37
stdinuranther: use apt-get, not adept02:37
NightBirdyeah, I like it when it does that.. >_>02:37
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stdin... fixed in next release02:38
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MenaJucato, hi02:43
urantherok still doesn't work with sun java6 bin jdk and all that jazz02:43
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tjzhow the heck do u get flash player to install?02:44
stdin!java902:44
urantherflashplugin-nonfree02:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about java9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:45
Mena!sun-java02:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sun-java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:45
tjz...huh02:45
Menastdin, do you use karamba02:45
tjzmissed that window closed02:45
stdinMena: nope02:45
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Menastdin,ok02:45
uranthertjz, install flashplugin-nonfree02:45
stdin!flash9 | tjz02:45
ubotutjz: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash02:45
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tjzok got it02:46
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tjzkeeps breaking02:48
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allan /list SQL injection02:52
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tjzdaskreech?02:53
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larson9999how is the turion 64 and linux? do they play nice?02:54
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Rizadaboa noite pessoal03:02
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xsachahey, if i have a computer getting the internet via a wireless a card.. and then i connect my kubuntu machine to it via ethernet -- can i get the internet on that kubuntu machine?03:03
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franklinyes,  xsacha03:04
franklinseparate interfaces03:04
franklinwired is usually eth0 and wireless is eth103:05
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CpuWhizhow do i reverse what the settings from Monitor & Display has done to my resolution03:06
xsachahmm so eth0 should be getting the internet from the other computers eth1? just doesnt seem to be working03:06
franklinxsacha... what are you trying to do?03:07
tjzok i have another question how do i get my wireless card to work on kubuntu?03:07
franklini may have misunderxtood you03:07
xsachaget the internet on the machine that doesnt have the wireless card by connecting, via ethernet, to the comp that does03:07
xsachai can send files over LAN with the ethernet but dont seem to have the internet03:08
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franklinthe machine that gets the internet would need to be configured as a router03:09
xsachaoh ok03:09
Rizadaalguem ai do Brasil ?03:09
franklinso the other machine can use it to connect out03:09
xsachaill find out how to configure it as a router03:09
tjzmy wireless wont connect and im sittin next to tha router03:10
franklinmeans nothing... you need to configure your wireless manually03:10
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tjzok how?03:10
franklintjz i'. going to ask you to open up a terminal window03:11
tjzk03:11
franklinopen up 2 actaully03:11
tjzdone03:11
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franklinusing kubuntu, right?03:11
tjzyea03:12
franklinwhat kind of wap do you have?03:12
franklinlinksys?03:12
franklind-link?03:12
tjzlink sys03:12
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tjzlinksys03:12
flaccidoh ap03:12
franklinok, i know those03:12
tjzkool03:12
stdin!bt | Rizada03:12
franklinhave you set up the wap yet03:12
stdin!br | Rizada03:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:12
ubotuRizada: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.03:12
tjzyea03:13
franklinare you using WEP or WPA?03:13
franklinthat's encryption03:13
tjz...?  not sure03:13
franklincheck,,, it makes a difference to kubuntu03:13
franklinit will not connect unless we can tell it what to use03:14
tjzi got one onther laptop on tha same router but using windows03:14
franklinhow old is the router03:14
tjzits not private03:14
tjznot that old03:14
tjzfair03:14
franklinlog onto the router and see under wireless if you are running WEP or WPA03:15
franklinwe need to know03:15
jmichaelx!xscreensavers03:15
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xscreensavers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:15
tjzwut iz wep?03:16
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franklinwired equivalency protocol03:16
tjzand wpa03:16
franklinit basically protects your wireless session about as well as being plaugged in with ethernet03:16
JinNeed some quick help, trying to install kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop results in a blank screen when X starts, I fixed this once before but I forget how, can anyone help me out?03:16
flacciddon't use wep anymore03:17
flaccidits crackable03:17
franklinuse wpa... wi-fi protected access03:17
tjzwpa03:17
tjzoh crap my connection is WEP03:17
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tjzmybad03:17
franklinyou can change it to wpa03:17
jmichaelxJin: what kind of video card do you have?03:18
franklinif you can, do so03:18
flaccidfranklin: and yeah only radius/802.1x is quiv to plugged in ethernet03:18
tjzhow03:18
JinATI Radion Mobility X700, I'm installing on an Acer Travelmate 810003:18
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JinRadeon*03:18
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franklinthere should be a chouce there03:18
tjzwhere?03:18
franklinchoice03:18
jmichaelxJin: are you able to get the command line via ctrl+alt+F1?03:18
franklinunder wireless or security in the router configs03:19
Jinjmichaelx, let me try03:19
tjzok its changed03:19
franklinok, set a new password for wpa03:19
franklindont tell me03:19
tjzok03:19
franklinwrite it down, you'll need it in a few mintues03:19
tjzok done03:20
franklinmake sure you choose wpa-psk03:20
Jinyou guys doing like, a wireless-style card trick?03:20
tjzok03:20
franklindone?03:20
tjzyea03:20
tom__hello03:20
franklinok... go to you terminal window03:20
franklineither one03:20
tjzk03:20
franklinwe have 2 open right?03:21
tjzyea03:21
tjzon desktp 3 and 403:21
franklinuse the terminal to open up the following file: /etc/network/interfaces03:21
tom__#ubuntu03:22
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tjzpermision denied03:22
franklintjz... use kate....03:22
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tjz?03:22
franklindo the following in the terminal window: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces03:22
franklinkate is a text editor03:23
Jinjmichaelx, alright I'm at a terminal03:23
tjzok got  it up03:23
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franklinok... are you familiar with commenting things out in linux?03:24
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tjznot really im new to tha system03:24
jaykiba-dock refuses to hide after clicking on any launcher03:24
franklinthe ound symbol # is used to comment out lines in files03:24
frankliner, pound symbol03:24
franklinthis thing: #03:24
tjzim awesome in windows but here still readin03:24
jmichaelxJin: ok... try using the 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'      and when you run that, select the 'radeon' driver (or 'ati' if you cannot find 'radeon')03:24
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tjzyea03:25
tjz#03:25
tjzok03:25
franklinok.03:25
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franklincomment out everything under the section auto eth203:26
tjzok one sec03:26
franklinlike this: #auto eth203:26
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tjz#iface eth2 inet dhcp03:26
franklinand then ditto for the iface line beneath it03:27
tjzlike this] 03:27
franklinyes...good03:27
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tjzk03:28
franklinwhat does you file look like now? what's commented out?03:28
tjzthe one                 auto ath003:28
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tjzdo i comment it tp03:29
tjzto*] 03:29
franklinyes03:29
tjzok and the line beneth it03:29
franklinas well as auto wlan003:29
tjzok03:29
ccherrettI have a wireless card in my laptop. When I boot and run ifdown then ifup it configures and runs. How can I get it to do this automatically?03:29
tjzok done03:29
franklinare eth1 and eth0 uncommented as well as auto lo03:30
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franklinleave those uncommented03:30
tjzyeq03:30
tjzyea*03:30
Jinjmichaelx, I went through the reconfigure and tried to restart X, still no luck03:31
franklinok, under auto eth1, what does it say03:31
jmichaelxJin: you may have to reboot03:31
franklindont read any passwords into here03:31
jmichaelxsudo shutdown -r now03:31
Jinjmichaelx, that wouldn't work though since I'm on the livecd though?03:31
JinI think it's a multi-monitor problem, I just forget how to fix it, something about MonitorLayout I think...03:31
tjziface eth1 inet dhcp03:31
jmichaelxJin: AHHH... no, that would not work03:31
tjzthat03:32
franklinthat's it?03:32
jmichaelxJin: i thought you had installed kubuntu03:32
tjzyea03:32
Jinsomething about VDMS I THINK03:32
franklindo you know what your ssid is?03:32
tjzno03:32
Jinnot completely sure, I forget how I fixed this a year ago03:32
franklinits the wireless access point service set identifier03:33
pirohas anyone had any luck hot swapping sata drives?03:33
franklintjz03:33
tjzyea03:34
franklinyou got your ssid?03:34
franklinit's not linksys, is it?03:34
jmichaelxJin: i would have expected it to detect your video card, but in the event it did not, there is likely some sort of command you need to type in at the boot prompt... maybe something like xvesa=radeon or something similar03:34
tjzno03:34
franklingood03:34
tjzprolly03:34
tjznoone has really messed with it03:34
franklinchange it to something else03:34
tjzok03:35
tjzdone03:35
franklincall it Airstrip or something03:35
tjzok got it03:35
franklinyou made the chage on the router?03:35
tjzcrap wrong window how do i change it?03:35
franklinon the router under wireless settings03:35
franklinSSID name03:36
Jinjmichaelx, lspci detects it, and so does the reconfigure03:36
franklinssid is service set ID03:36
franklinit's just a name for the wireless router03:36
tjzok i got it03:36
tjzdione03:36
franklinthe radio will broadcast that name03:36
franklinok03:36
tjzdone*03:36
jmichaelxJin: i am not sure what to say at this point.... maybe playing with your resolution would help03:36
franklinback to the interfaces file03:37
franklinin kate03:37
tjzyea03:37
franklinunder the section auto eth1, and under the iface line, add the following... each on it's own line03:37
tjzok03:37
franklinwpa-ssid "your-ssid-name" (no quotes)03:38
tjzwpa-ssid    thats it03:38
franklinthere's more03:39
tjzok onesec03:39
franklinso that line should look like this: wpa-ssid Airstrip03:39
franklincool?03:39
franklinnext line.... ready?03:40
franklinunder the last one...03:40
tjzyea03:40
tjzyea03:40
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franklinwpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK03:40
franklinone more line....03:40
tjzok03:41
franklinwpa-passphrase "your-password-for-the-router" (i asked you to write it ealier)03:41
franklindont post your pw in here03:41
franklinadd it to the end of that last line... it's the WPA passphrase u did for the router ealier03:42
tjzok03:42
tjzok03:42
franklinok... done?03:42
tjzyea03:42
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franklinso, in that file, the auto lo, auto eth0 and eth1 are all uncommented, right?03:42
tjzyep03:42
franklinand the others are commented, right?03:42
tjzyea03:43
franklinsave the file03:43
franklinclick save03:43
Jingot it03:43
tjzok03:44
franklinok03:44
franklinis your ethernet cable plugged in to the machine?03:44
tjzyea03:44
franklinyour laptop, i mean03:45
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franklinnot the router03:45
Jinor not...03:45
tjzyea but im usong my desktopright now03:45
ForgeAuswhat are X includes?03:45
franklinit has a wireless card built in?03:45
stdin!xincludes03:45
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev03:45
stdinForgeAus: ^^03:46
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tjzno i installed it03:46
franklinok...03:46
franklintype the following at the command line03:46
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ubuntuHeya03:46
JinNOW I've got it03:46
tjzok03:46
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Jinit WAS MonitorLayout options03:46
franklinsudo /etc/init.d/networking restart03:46
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guillehi03:47
guilleplease see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BoU75XKaO803:47
tjzwait in terminal or kate?03:47
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franklinterminal03:47
guillei want know that Menu is used in this video03:47
MobsterWhich is better Xubuntu or Ubuntu?03:47
franklinmy bust, should have told you03:47
guillei want change mi K menu :)03:47
franklinmobster...what works best for you is what's best03:48
MobsterAh03:48
tjzok03:48
MobsterWhich one will detect my widescreen monitor?03:48
franklinboth03:48
ForgeAusum stdin are you sure they're packages? or have they been superceded or something03:48
ForgeAusmy adept doesn't show them03:48
franklinxubuntu and edubuntu and kubuntu all use the UBUNTU base, just different packages03:49
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franklintjz?03:49
tjzfranklin: how do i get flash to install i keep gettin break03:49
tjzyea03:49
MobsterI'm In Ubuntu now and I can scroll around the desktop with my mouse03:49
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franklininstall flash?03:49
stdinForgeAus: you don't see xorg-dev ?03:49
tjzyea03:49
franklindo you have firefox installed?03:50
ForgeAusI can't find it... refreshing the list03:50
tjzno it breaks that to03:50
franklinwhat browser are u using?03:50
stdinForgeAus: they are all in main03:50
franklindefine breaking, tjz?03:50
ccherrettok so I have to run wlassistant and then ifdown and ifup to get my wireless working. Can this be done automatically?03:50
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tjzkonquer03:51
franklinbrowser won't work with flash?03:51
gansinhoplease, I'm having some problems with ktorrent... all my torrents keep changing from stalled to downloading... I do not have this issue in azureus for example, I'm not behind firewalls or proxys...03:51
franklinor you can't install it?03:51
tjzkonqueror*03:51
tjzok03:51
franklinok, konq03:51
tjzhow?03:51
franklinyou want to install flash, right?03:51
tjzyea03:51
franklinok03:51
franklinhold on, let me hit my notes and i'll paste you a link how-to03:52
tjzok03:52
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Mobster!resolution03:52
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:52
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franklintjz... this site is for ubuntu, but installing flash is the same03:54
tjzok03:54
tjzthat works03:54
franklinhttp://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/    you can also hit the kubuntu wiki03:54
franklinhow is your wireless thing?03:54
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franklin?03:56
franklinmust not be working...03:56
ForgeAusahh found some03:56
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vasHey I am running Kubuntu and everything is sounding really low pitched like eveyrone has a deep voice when I listen to stuff03:57
tjzdoin good its connected03:57
franklincool...03:57
vashow can I fix this?03:57
franklinthat was easy, right?03:57
tjzthanx03:57
tjzyea i guess03:57
franklinno prob, glad i can help03:57
franklinmake a backup of your interfaces file03:58
vasme?03:58
tjzok03:58
franklinready?03:58
franklinin the terminal...03:58
tjzme?03:59
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intelikeyyou03:59
vastjz: yes you srry i jumped into that03:59
tjzk03:59
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tjzyea wut 4?03:59
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Adydazfrankin where is the kubuntu wiki03:59
franklingoogle for kubuntu wiki... it will be there03:59
Adydazshot04:00
franklini forget the link04:00
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franklini have so many bookmarks, my head hurts04:00
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Menahow to link to trash and when its full the con for it work and when its emptu the icon fior it04:01
Menaicon*04:01
Menaempty*04:01
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franklintjz...copy that file... cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.bak04:01
tjzk04:02
franklinsorry... i've got a gaim session going as well04:02
franklinlol04:02
tjzkool04:02
franklinand lost is on04:02
tjzim usin msn right now04:02
Adydazhow do you support and add info to wiki?04:03
franklinwiki is reader supported04:03
franklinYOU can add to it04:03
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Adydaznm04:03
vassrry to be a botherrr, but a last roll call for anyone that might've missed my earlier question.. Everything is sounding in a low pitched tone like a very low voice.. Kubuntu OS04:03
Adydazi found it04:04
[R] eaperanyone can help me with my ati card?04:04
franklinwhat are you trying to do?04:04
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intelikey!sound | vas04:04
ubotuvas: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:04
Mena!trash04:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:05
franklinthe bot beat me to it04:05
ForgeAus!MP304:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:05
ForgeAushmmm thats weird04:05
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flaccidtime for lunch04:05
ForgeAuseasy to say please use free formats, if your making the files yourself thats ok but if your recieving them you don't choose what format...04:06
intelikey!ati [R] eaper04:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ati [r] eaper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:06
AdydazForgeAus: having issues playing mp3s?04:06
ForgeAusme no04:06
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intelikeyForgeAus you can allways dirrect them to /dev/null if they are in non-free formats...04:07
franklinnon-free sucks04:07
tjzfranklin: my audio will not work04:07
franklinwhen  did this happen?04:07
tjzit happened when i installed kubuntu04:08
[R] eapermy ati card doesn work right04:08
franklinmake sure arts is enabled like the bot said above04:08
intelikey!ati | [R] eaper04:08
ubotu[R] eaper: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:08
[R] eaperi have the latest ati drivers, but my screen look bad04:08
intelikeyooops.  guess i wasn't paying attention the first time.04:09
[R] eaperhere is my xorg.0.log http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/88594404:09
tjzit will not work i installed it and put in a cd and using head phones hte only program i can actually hear music is kscd04:09
franklinmake sure the volune is up04:09
vasplay with the mixer04:09
franklini suck at sound issues04:10
franklini really do04:10
tjzit is  i plugged my head phones into the back of my dt but i hear nithing and in the front cd drive i only hear it in kscd04:10
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joshiHello04:10
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vasya the bot gave me nothin.. still low pitched sound04:11
MenaHow to set a link to trash to chage the icon when its full and empty on dektop?04:11
joshii play with wine mdk 2 but the sound does not work has anyone an idea?04:11
Menadesktop*04:12
tjzcrap04:12
BluesKajvas, check your soundcard connection , sounds like humm04:12
vasok04:12
surgyjoshi: a conflict with another program locking the sound driver?04:12
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vasits not the speakers BTW04:12
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joshisound works without a game...04:12
Lord_Flashearthi i'm not able to get kubuntu to work on my lapto04:12
joshiwich could it be?04:12
[R] eaperplease someone take a look to my xorg.0.log and tell me what is wrong http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/88594404:12
joshiups which04:12
Lord_Flashearti think the problem may be the nvidia geforce go 7950 gtx sli cards04:12
CVirusLord_Flasheart: not work ? yeah right04:12
intelikeysound is over rated.04:13
pirois freenx gnome specifc by chance?04:13
intelikeyany deaf person can tell ya that.04:13
joshicould i change the sound in wine to another engine or sth like that?04:13
Lord_Flasheartwhen you install it with the alternate text installer (the graphical one won't boot)04:13
CVirusintelikey: you're deaf ?04:13
CVirusjoshi: winecfg04:13
Lord_Flasheartthe machine still doesn't boot after the install04:13
intelikeyCVirus no just hard of listening.04:13
Lord_Flasheartbut won't get beyond the loading screen with the blue bar04:14
Lord_Flasheartjust drops out to a blank screen forever04:14
Lord_Flashearti looked in the x org config file and it is using the vesa driver04:14
CVirusLord_Flasheart: next time ... put your question in one messege .... now ... edit the boot parameters and remove quiet and splash04:15
CVirusLord_Flasheart: and see where it fails04:15
Lord_FlasheartCVirus: could you tell me how to edit the boot parameters, i have not done that before?04:15
[R] eaperany radeon x1600 owner here??04:16
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intelikeyLord_Flasheart [esc]    select the line you wish to edit and hit  [E] 04:16
joshijust a moment please...04:16
joshii will look04:16
Lord_Flasheartintelikey: is that in a particular file?04:17
vashey in Kmix I accidentally got rid of that top bar Files Options Help thing04:17
intelikeyat the grub prompr04:17
vasI right clicked n got rid of the toolbar04:17
intelikeyt04:17
vasmy bad how do I get it back lol04:17
CVirusLord_Flasheart: when grub is counting down .. press the escape key .. then press the "e" button .. and go to the line with the parameters and press the "e" button again .. and remove quiet and splash and press the enter key then press the "b" key04:17
Lord_Flasheartcool, i will try that and let you know what's up04:17
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intelikeyvas alt+f2  type in kicker04:17
CVirusLord_Flasheart: sure04:17
vasintelikey: nah nada04:18
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intelikeyvas sounds like you hid it.04:18
intelikeysearch the bottom top sides of the screen04:19
vasintekiley ahh god..04:19
franklinlost sucks tonight04:19
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intelikeyvas,   i am not.   don't you accuse me of that.04:19
vasintelikey I caught you red handed.. the search is over give up04:20
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vas*vas cracks out the yamicha04:20
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MukiEX-daIs anyone here getting "the mouse problem"?04:21
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MukiEX-daAnyone? This mouse thing is making kubuntu unusable =(04:23
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eddyhelloo04:24
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eddydoes someone see this message?04:25
MukiEX-daYes eddy04:26
eddythanks!04:26
franklinlol04:26
Agent_bobeddy you can always /ping eddy   to make sure you are connected.04:26
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eddygood tip!04:27
ccherrettok this sucks!04:27
vasnooo!04:27
ccherrettI have been trying to connect my wireless for hours04:27
vaswhat can I do about a lost toolbar04:27
Jucatovas: which toolbar?04:27
vasKMix the File Options Help Toolbar thingy04:27
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ccherrettit connects withsome commandline power but not automatically04:27
vasI can't filda place to right click04:27
Agent_bobvas   killall kicker ;kicker04:27
vassoI can get it back04:27
Jucatovas: Ctrl+M04:27
Admiral_Chicagovas: Ctrl + M04:27
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ccherrettcan someone help04:27
vasi fuckin love you guys04:27
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: ha beat you! :P04:28
vasexcusethe language04:28
Admiral_Chicagoccherrett: whats the problem.04:28
vasthats been drivin me nuts04:28
MukiEX-daAnyone? Mouse several pixels below where it should be?04:28
MukiEX-daCursor not matching location?04:28
vasthat was problem 1 tho, now I g2 fix my computer from makin everythin sound in a deep deep low voice04:28
ubuntuhi.. I have a question reg kubuntu install.. could someone help04:28
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: spelling mistake...that could get ugly quick..04:28
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Admiral_Chicago!ask | ubuntu04:28
ubotuubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:28
ccherrettAdmiral_Chicago: if I run wlassistant and then ifdown eth1 and ifup eth1 i get connectivity04:28
ccherrettAdmiral_Chicago: but not on boot04:29
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Admiral_Chicagookay. I have heard of this error before not sure how to fix it other than writing a scipt04:29
ccherrettI have played with /etc/network/interfaces but nothing is working for me04:29
ubuntuI have already Redhat + win2k + win98 on my system.. how easy is it to replace REDHAT with Kubuntu???04:30
MukiEX-daPlease, any help would be appreciated. Even a remote point in the right direction, my interface is completely fucking unusable as it is =(04:30
MukiEX-daThe ubuntu forums don't seem to have anything on this bug.04:30
Agent_bobubuntu  pretty easy.  but are you sure you want to ?04:30
ubuntuYes.. i hate REDHAT04:31
Admiral_Chicagoccherrett: like I said, I don't know how to fix it. I would write a script04:31
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ccherrettAdmiral_Chicago: how could I get that script to run on boot?04:31
Admiral_Chicagoccherrett: type this is a konsole04:32
Agent_bobubuntu then what makes you think you will like ubuntu ?   you can have kde on redhat too you know ?04:32
dwidmannubuntu: should be as easy as wiping redhat's partition(s), and reusing those for kubuntu04:32
Admiral_Chicagocd Desktop04:32
Admiral_Chicagoerr actually04:32
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crazy_busI'm trying to print with a Cannon bjc-265sp.  When I was setting up the printer test page worked.  However nothing else will.  Pages I try to print just stay on processing.  What should I do?04:32
ubuntuwhat happens to my lilo loader ??04:32
Admiral_Chicagocd ~/.kde/Autostart04:32
stdinccherrett: just add a line like "pre-up wlassistant" to the interface in /etc/network/interfaces04:32
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Agent_bobit gets replaced by grub04:32
dwidmannubuntu: Kubuntu will replace it with grub04:32
Admiral_Chicagotouch AdmiralsScript.sh04:32
Admiral_Chicagonano AdmiralsScript.sh04:32
ubuntuwill it retain other info in LILO reg windows installs???04:33
dwidmannit shouldn't have any trouble detecting the windows partitions and adding them to the list04:33
Admiral_Chicagosudo ifdown eth104:33
kgxlets say i have a directory and there are some subdirectories (.svn to be particular) in it. whats the quickest way of getting rid of all the .svn directories?04:33
Admiral_Chicago(drop down a line)04:33
Admiral_Chicagosudo ifup eth104:33
Admiral_ChicagoCtrl + O04:33
Admiral_ChicagoEnter04:33
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Agent_bobubuntu it "should" setup up the windows partition to boot.   if it doesn't it's not hard to add an entry.04:33
ccherrettAdmiral_Chicago: ok I think it will need some iwconfig commands first04:34
Agent_bobubuntu as far as it using any of the existing information.  NO!04:34
ccherrettAdmiral_Chicago: should I put them in first?04:34
stdinkgx: find /path/to/dir -type d -name ".svn" -exec rm -r {} \;04:34
Admiral_Chicagochmod 700 AdmiralScript.sh04:34
Admiral_Chicagoccherrett: if you like04:34
ccherrettAdmiral_Chicago: ok cool I will play with that04:35
ccherrettthanks04:35
Admiral_Chicagoccherrett: let me know if it doesn't work04:35
ccherrettcrazy_bus: hows it going?04:35
ccherrettAdmiral_Chicago: I will thanks04:35
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Admiral_Chicagohehe, Ive been playing with scripts lately. not too good, but I can make it do some things04:35
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kgxstdin: thanks :)04:37
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Agent_bobecho -e '!#/bin/sh \n\nsudo ifdown eth1 \nsudo ifup eth1\n' > AdmiralsScript.sh ;chmod 700 AdmiralsScript.sh04:37
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Agent_bobAdmiral_Chicago ^04:37
crazy_busccherrett: about your story?  Or the printer.  The printer still isn't working04:38
Admiral_ChicagoAgent_bob: yea, that would work. like I said, i've just started playing with commands. I'll keep that in mind04:38
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osirisis it possible to use mp3's or wav files for kde system sounds ?04:39
Kyralosiris: Yes04:40
osirishow.  neither work, and i have done all the stuf for playing restricted formats04:40
surgyosiris: as long as you have the proper decoder04:40
surgy!mp304:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:41
ccherrettcrazy_bus: alsa just the printer :)04:41
Agent_bobAdmiral_Chicago if you use redirrects to write scripts. one odd querk you should be aware of sudo echo 'blah' > file    writes file as normal user because of the redirrect.  have to use something like    echo 'blah' | sudo tee file       just thought i'd mention that ahead of time, so it didn't supprise you.04:41
surgy!mp3 | osiris04:41
ubotuosiris: please see above04:41
osirisand thats a > yer looking for04:41
lontraanyone know if there are any official packages of the opensuse kickoff menu for kubuntu?04:41
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ubuntu_pota04:42
ubuntu_de leche04:42
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osirisagain, not related to the kde system sounds.  playing these files in a media player works fine.  they just wont work as system sounds for kde04:43
Agent_bob!ph04:43
ubotuJoin #ubuntu-ph for tagalog04:43
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Agent_bobosiris so convert them to .au04:44
osirisgood solution.  change the problem.04:45
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Agent_bobi guess you are going to tell me you don't know how to "save as"04:45
Agent_bobor .ogg if you like compressed.04:46
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Agent_bobosiris and if the player you are using can't do that. audacity can.04:47
vasis there a Default button for KMixer b/c I think it might be causing the low voices for my movies04:48
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GuyFromHellso what would be the (k)ubuntu equivelent of running `dhcpcd eth1`?04:49
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Admiral_ChicagoAgent_bob: okay thanks i'll remember that04:50
AdydazGuyFromHell: DHCP issues?04:51
Agent_bobAdmiral_Chicago yeah it threw me for a loop the first time i ran into it.04:51
Adydazdhclient i think is what your looking for..04:51
GuyFromHellAdydaz: wireless issues, I'm trying to figure out what's wrong04:51
urantherpackage from openoffice's website doesn't work either04:51
uranthersame problem04:51
GuyFromHellAdydaz: that's it, I'll give it a shot from here. thanks04:51
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Zorixany reason why amarok doesnt do shoutcast streams.. a get an error about a demux plugin04:52
Zorixas far as i know all codecs are installed04:52
Agent_bob!demux04:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about demux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:52
Zorixis there a package?04:53
Agent_boblibxine-extracodecs ?04:53
Agent_bobapt-cache search demux04:53
Zorixdoesnt exist04:54
Zorixok04:54
Agent_bob!libxine-extracodecs04:54
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB04:54
Admiral_ChicagoZorix: try #amarok maybe04:54
Agent_bobit exists in multiverse repos Zorix04:54
Agent_bob!repos04:55
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:55
MenaHow to set a link to trash to chage the icon when its full and empty on desktop?04:55
Zorixinstalled mpegdemux package and no difference04:55
Zorixoh multiverse ok04:55
Agent_bobMena maybe right click on the icon > configure (preferances)    click the icon picture select the imbeding trashcan04:56
MenaAgent_bob, i will try04:57
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Uberuxtermhey i was on the FAQ for kubuntu, it says to enable multiverse and other respotories, i have to go to synaptic, etc but kubuntu dont have it04:58
Uberuxtermso how do i enable them04:58
ZorixAgent_bob: i installed that package, same result04:58
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AdydazUberuxterm: you need to edit it with kate04:58
Adydazuse kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:59
Uberuxtermwhat file and what do i add04:59
Uberuxtermok04:59
Uberuxtermwhat do i add04:59
Agent_bobthat was the full extant of my knowledge in that dirrection.  maybe someone else can help you.04:59
Uberuxtermif iw ant to enable restricted, etc and everything later i will be adding mp3 support04:59
Adydazadd the word multiverse to the end04:59
Adydazbut firstly ensure its not commented out and allkready there with a ##04:59
Adydazerr #04:59
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Uberuxtermok04:59
Agent_bobdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse restricted05:00
Agent_boblike that   ^05:00
ccherrettAdmiral_Chicago: it seems to be more complicated than I thought05:00
Adydasif you get lost try this it might help somewhat..05:00
ccherrettthat script does not work05:00
Adydashttp://adydas.net/linux/repos.html05:00
Zorixnow it works after i kill the app a 2nd time it works05:00
Zorixthanks Agent_bob05:00
Agent_bobccherrett does it stop and restart the eth1 interface ?05:00
Admiral_Chicagoccherrett: what do you do when you turn on wlanassist?05:01
Admiral_Chicagoare you sure its not like wl005:01
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Agent_bobZorix welcome.05:01
UberuxtermAgent_bob im on kubuntu 6.06ls , should i paste my sources on a pastebin and show u05:01
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ubuntuAssalamualaikum w.b.t.05:01
ccherrettAdmiral_Chicago: when I run wlassistant it brings up a connection to iynksys05:01
ccherrettlinksys05:01
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ccherrettAdmiral_Chicago: I click on that and can see it run a bunch of commands on the command line05:02
ccherrettIt fails to esstablish the connection but when I run ifup and ifdown it then works05:02
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Admiral_Chicagohmm, not sure..05:03
ccherrettit does not work untill I run wlassistant05:03
KanRiNiNHey.  I can't find how to switch my default file manager from konqueror to dolphin05:03
UberuxtermAgent_bob ok thx05:04
Agent_bobnp05:04
Necronomiconhola a todos05:04
UberuxtermAgent_bob should i do this, and then upgrade to edgy05:04
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Necronomiconkubuntu en espaol?05:04
Uberuxtermoverwrite with tihs file and then uprade05:04
UberuxtermupgradE*05:04
Admiral_Chicagomaybe start a wlanassistant before it. then I think you can make the script wait 30 seconds05:04
Admiral_Chicago!es | Necronomicon05:04
ubotuNecronomicon: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:04
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Necronomicon!es05:05
Agent_bobupgrading is entirely up to you.  i still run 6.605:05
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ccherrettAdmiral_Chicago: wlassistant is a GUI05:05
UberuxtermAgent_bob are we missing out on anything05:05
Admiral_Chicagoccherrett: i know.05:05
ccherrettok05:05
Agent_bobi'm not.05:05
Admiral_Chicagoi'm just not sure how to help you05:05
Uberuxtermim too dumb to know the differences05:05
Dr_willisthat sounds like most windows users.05:06
Dr_willis:)05:06
Agent_bobthen you'll never miss the extra bugs.05:06
Necronomicongames for kubuntu dapper?05:06
Uberuxtermhah05:06
Uberuxtermi am a win user btw05:06
Uberuxtermon my lap05:06
Dr_willisI play lots of games05:06
ForgeAusme 205:06
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Dr_willisPuzzle Pirates is fun for a change of pace.05:06
Agent_bobyou play with your lap ?    shame on you.    and shame on you for telling us.05:06
Necronomiconsotty for mi bad english room05:07
KanRiNiNDoes anyone know about changing the default file manager?05:07
Necronomiconweb page with kde games???05:07
ForgeAusnecro skip linux games and go for emulation :)05:07
Agent_bobNecronomicon "tome"   linux game tome    that's the place to look.05:07
Malay_LinuxI am using Konversation at Kubuntu Linux 6.10 Edgy Eft05:07
ForgeAusadept has lots of games05:07
Dr_willisKanRiNiN,  not too sure thats doable.. you can install others and just make some shortcuts to them on the desktop.. but i cant say that ive seen Konqueror totally disabled05:08
Necronomiconsorry i have not grafic card05:08
manchickenubotu: firefox32 is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava05:08
Admiral_Chicago!games05:08
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org05:08
Necronomiconmy grafic card is a onboard sis 63005:08
cpk1Necronomicon: there is a kdegames meta package that will install all the kde games in the repos05:08
KanRiNiNDr_willis: Thanks.  I just read the article about it being more usable and thought I'd try.  I'll just set up dolphin /home/* shortcuts :-)05:08
Necronomiconyes kde games i have but more games?05:09
Agent_bobkdegames - KDE Games metapackage05:09
Dr_willisKanRiNiN,  i dident find dolphin mure useable. :)05:09
pointfivezero!kdegames05:09
ubotukdegames: KDE Games metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 68 kB05:09
Agent_bobNecronomicon "tome"   linux game tome    that's the place to look. <<< repost.    google   "linux game tome"05:09
Dr_willisNot the Linux Game Tomb :)05:09
Necronomiconok i see a https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games05:10
Necronomiconfor more information05:10
Agent_bobNecronomicon or ignore me altogather...05:10
cpk1Necronomicon: just search the repos too, there are several free games in there05:10
Necronomiconheyy see05:10
Necronomiconhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZhiYff7nM05:10
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Agent_bobcpk1 like apt-cache search game | wc -l05:11
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dawnwhere can one get some kubuntu stickers?05:12
Dr_willisprint some out? :)05:12
dawnto cover the ugly "Designed for Windows Xp"05:12
Agent_bobyeah print them.05:12
dawnWell..05:12
Agent_boboh wait.  my printer don't work.05:12
dawnthats too easy05:12
Agent_bobhow to get cups working ?05:13
Agent_bobmedic !05:13
Dr_willisive seen linux 'case badges' at thinkgeek, and other sites05:13
dawni got cups to work with my  dell printer :)05:13
dawncanon pixma 1700, forget it05:13
Dr_willisi got a canon 160005:13
dawnbtw: I did wreck my ubunto ditro on the bosses laptop :)05:14
dawn*distro05:14
Agent_bobwell this should almost print raw.  but cups don't work.   as in still BUSTED.05:14
dawnwhich model printer05:14
Necronomiconhttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Native_Games05:14
Agent_bobdawn lexmark 102005:15
dawnhmmm05:15
dawni have a rebranded lexmark05:15
Agent_bobvery well supported for many years in linux.05:15
Agent_boball i have to do is add it to cups..... except cups is hosed.05:15
UberuxtermAgent_bob, i updated the source, now when i do sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll and 5-6 other things it says "package not found"05:15
dawnthink geek badges are ugly05:16
Agent_bobgstreamer0.10-pitfdll - GStreamer plugin for using MS Windows binary codecs05:16
Agent_bobUberuxterm that's a search from the same sources.list05:16
UberuxtermAgent_bobwhat you mean?05:16
Agent_bobi mean i did apt-cache search gstreamer0.10-pit   and it spit out that.05:17
Uberuxtermoh05:17
Uberuxtermbut it dont work05:17
Agent_bobUberuxterm   sudo apt-get update05:18
Agent_bobclose package managers first.05:18
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Uberuxtermim at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestricedFormats under ubuntu 6.06/6.1005:18
Uberuxtermall closed05:18
Uberuxtermjust konsole open05:18
Agent_bob  ubuntu 6.06/6.10   ?05:18
Uberuxtermkubuntu site goes there05:19
Agent_bobthat's dapper sources.   have you upgraded to edgy ?05:19
Uberuxtermno05:19
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Agent_bobUberuxterm do lsb_release -a05:19
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Uberuxtermi'm on kubuntu 6.06 LTS05:19
Agent_bobok.05:19
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Uberuxtermim on dapper05:20
Agent_bobok and what is the error ?05:21
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Agent_bobyou did   sudo apt-get update     ?05:21
Agent_bobdid it complete without errors  ?05:21
Agent_bobam i talking to my self again  ?05:22
Malay_LinuxCan buntu users get free CD?05:22
Uberuxtermi didnt do that let me try05:22
Agent_bob!shipit05:22
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.05:22
slyfoxDoes Koffice support .doc files ?05:22
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Agent_bobwhich .doc ?05:23
slyfoxAgent_bob: microsoft word files05:23
slyfoxxp 200305:23
Dr_willisWhats up Doc.05:23
Dr_willis:)05:23
aneeshi05:23
Uberuxtermnot much Doc05:23
aneesI want to configure kannel on kubuntu05:23
aneesbut unable to do it05:23
Dr_williskannel?05:24
aneescan anyone help me plz05:24
aneesyes05:24
Agent_bobbut i don't know the answer anyway.    slyfox just pointing out that there are at least 5 .doc formats.05:24
Dr_willisnever heard of it. :)05:24
aneesit's a sms gateway05:24
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slyfoxI just wonder if it can open and save .doc word files xp and 2003 fiels ?05:24
bkudriaI just posted a new version of my 'snippit' app - a script to type text snippets for you quickly.  Now with in-place replacement support!  I'd appreciate any feedback! http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=5219705:24
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UberuxtermAgent_bob it works now, i had to update the apt-get. thx.05:25
Agent_bobUberuxterm np.   welcome05:25
Uberuxtermi like synaptic..05:25
Uberuxtermthe one on this one sucks05:25
aneesanybody help me configuring kannel??05:25
Agent_bobUberuxterm you will now see a lot more packages avalable in the package manager.05:26
Dr_willisUberuxterm,  then install it...05:26
AdydasWhy do you need to do that anees?>05:26
Agent_bobUberuxterm install synaptic.05:26
aneesto configure sms gateway05:26
UberuxtermAgent_bob u can do that/05:26
UberuxtermAgent_bob i thought it was only for gnome05:26
GuyFromHellcan someone point me in the direction of making knetworkmanager work (I can get the blasted thing to work just typing in `iwconfig eth1 essid XXXXX key XXXXX` and `dhclient eth1` but I can't figure out how to replicate it in the program)05:26
Uberuxtermlol05:26
Dr_willisUberuxterm,  you arwe thinkng  'small' :)05:26
Agent_bobthis is linux.   custom is the key  and free is the word.05:26
Uberuxtermhow do i install it05:27
Dr_willisyou can mix and match/run gnome and kde apps05:27
Dr_willissame as ya install everything else.05:27
Uberuxtermadept sucks05:27
Dr_willissudo apt-get install synaptic is one way05:27
Dr_willisUberuxterm,  yea sure.. whatever.. You dont know how to install synaptic.. but you have enough experience to say adept suck..... :P05:27
UberuxtermDr_willis, i can install gnome programs too? but why dont gnome have kde apps then , like when they release it i only seen it with gnome apps, and vice versa05:27
aneesanybody help me configuring kannel plz05:27
Dr_willisUberuxterm,  you should see all the apps in the menus.05:28
Agent_bobin adept  or aptitude or dselect or with apt-get     or heck you could even dl the package and use dpkg -i  to install it    or even get the suorce code and compile it.     how do you want to install it ?05:28
Uberuxtermill do the one line easy command :05:28
Uberuxterm:D05:28
Agent_bobsudo apt-get install synaptic05:28
Malay_LinuxI've got Dapper CD... can I get next release CD for free?05:28
Uberuxtermno there is a charge05:29
Uberuxtermhaha05:29
Agent_bobMalay_Linux did you go to the shipit page ?05:29
aneesanybody help me configuring kannel plz05:30
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aneesanybody help me configuring kannel plz05:30
Adydaswhat do you need to do that for anees05:30
Agent_bobanees what do you mean configuring kernel ?    you building from source ?05:30
aneesyes building from source05:30
Dr_willisgeee most pople would read the docs/man pages and figure it out.. :)05:30
Dr_willisit cant be that hard.05:30
dawnquestion05:31
Agent_bobanees you have build-essential installed ?05:31
aneesbut got an error05:31
aneesno05:31
dawndoes grub have backups?05:31
aneesplz guide me05:31
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Dr_willisanees,  then why not tell us the error? instead ofbeing vague.05:31
Dr_willisdawn,  not normally05:31
Agent_bob!b-e05:31
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:31
Adydasshouldnt we find out why hes compiling it first05:31
Agent_bob!b-e | anees05:31
ubotuanees: please see above05:31
ubuntu_hello05:31
dawnok nm05:31
aneesok05:31
Uberuxtermhey, how do i know the names for programs? for example, if i want to download terminal not konsole, or other programs..apt-get install <name> is there some list on sites05:31
dawnits recovery mode which is different05:32
Dr_willis!info kannel05:32
ubotukannel: WAP and SMS gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-17 (edgy), package size 1010 kB, installed size 3020 kB05:32
Dr_willislooks like its in the repos....05:32
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nn17.05:32
Dr_willisunless one needs thelatest version.05:32
AdydasUberuxterm: apt-cache search searchforwhatever05:32
Dr_willisUberuxterm,  a read of the apt-get guides is WELL worth the effort.05:32
Dr_willis!apt05:32
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:32
Uberuxtermnice works05:32
Dr_willisand how repositories work is anotehr thing to get educated on.05:33
Dr_willis!repo05:33
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:33
koyo001ok i have a problem with adept05:33
aneesi am installing build essential right now05:33
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Dr_willisIm apt-fu skills are sort of minimal.. i reread the docs every so often to relearn stuff.05:33
koyo001keeps crashing while updating05:33
koyo001can anyone help me out with this05:33
Dr_willisanees,  you realize that package is allready in the repositories and can be installed without compiling.05:33
Agent_bobUberuxterm apt-cache search "anything you think would be in the name or discription"    and/or  apt-cache show "package-name"     for details about any give package05:34
aneeshow05:34
Adydasanees: apt-get install kannel05:34
aneesbasically i m newby in linux05:34
Adydassudo apt-get isntall kannel05:34
aneesok05:34
Dr_willisanees,   a read of the apt-get guides is WELL worth the effort.05:34
Adydasinstall05:34
dawnhas anyone had any broken packages after updating in the past few days?05:35
aneesok...thanx05:35
Dr_willis!info kannel05:35
ubotukannel: WAP and SMS gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-17 (edgy), package size 1010 kB, installed size 3020 kB05:35
dawn!ubuntu0minimal05:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu0minimal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:35
dawn!ubuntu-minimal05:35
ubotuubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB05:35
Agent_bobUberuxterm sometimes i have to fillter the output   apt-cache search game | grep board | less    show me all board games installable.05:35
dawnok so what is ubuntu-minimal?05:35
dawnmachine upset over it05:36
Agent_bob!ubuntu-minimal05:36
ubotuubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB05:36
dawnlol, i just did that05:36
Dr_willisthat has to be some meta-package.. being so small05:36
aneesadydas I m installing kannel05:36
aneessudo apt-get install kannel05:36
Agent_bobit's a meta package that depends on some things that the ubuntu team desided you needed.05:36
aneescan u plz guide me how to configure it05:36
aneesgot an error05:37
dawnwell all I did was atempt in installing  a wireless verizon modem and updated some packages05:37
aneeswhile installing kannel05:37
dawnand now its broked..05:37
dawn:(05:37
dawnoh dear05:37
Adydasanees: try here05:37
Adydashttp://adydas.net/linux/repos.html05:37
Adydasit worked for me..05:37
Adydashopefully it can help you05:37
aneesok05:37
Agent_bob!worksforme05:38
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:38
Dr_willis'configure' is NOT the same as 'compile'05:38
dawnlol05:38
aneesok05:38
Agent_bobconfigure != make05:38
Dr_willisand 'install'  (via apt-get) is not the same as compile, or configure. :)05:39
Dr_willis:)05:39
aneesok05:39
Agent_bobapt-get install != {configure,make}05:39
Agent_bobok so that last one doesn't actually work anywhere.... it was best i could do on such short notice.05:40
Agent_bobapt-get install != configure  ||  apt-get install != make05:41
Agent_bobthere that one will work  :)05:41
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GuyFromHellcan someone help me set up knetworkmanager or point me in the direction of making it work through a guide or something05:47
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GuyFromHellthe wireless "tubes" work fine when I use iwconfig/dhclient but I can't get it to work therough the gui05:47
GuyFromHell(which is rather unfortunate considering the reason I downloaded feisty was to use this when I got to school)05:48
UberuxtermAgent_bob i accidently killed the gui..how do i restart x?/kde05:48
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Malay_LinuxI want to lunch...05:49
Agent_bobsudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart05:49
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Uberuxtermgreat :(05:49
Dr_willisor 'startx' :)05:50
Uberuxtermthat just restarted comp05:50
Uberuxtermman that was the command!05:50
Uberuxtermstart x05:50
Uberuxtermnot restart lol05:50
vegasmcpchow do i find the uuid of a device?05:50
Agent_bobUberuxterm if you want i single session    startx05:50
vegasmcpci'm trying to add a raid5 array to my /etc/fstab05:50
Dr_willisvegasmcpc,  look in /dev/disk/by-uuid05:50
Uberuxtermok05:50
Uberuxtermmy fault for not being claer05:50
Dr_willisls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/05:50
Agent_bobUberuxterm no   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart    did not restart the computer.05:50
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Dr_willisit 'restarts' the kdm service05:51
vegasmcpcDr_willis: i need the uuid of a device that's not mounted yet05:51
vegasmcpci'm trying to add a new drive to my /etc/fstab05:51
Agent_bobthe k display manager   to be more persific05:51
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Dr_willisvegasmcpc,  plug it in.. it 'should' show up in that /dev/disks-by stuff... THEN you edit the fstab05:51
Agent_bobspecise ?05:52
vegasmcpcDr_willis: it's not like it needs to be plugged in, it's a raid5 array that i just created05:52
Dr_willisvegasmcpc,  eww... Hmm... no idea how uuid works with raid stuff...05:52
vegasmcpcthe array is functional, i formatted it, i just don't know how to mount it or add it to my /etc/fstab05:52
vegasmcpcthere was a command to find the uuid in konsole, but i can't remember it05:53
Dr_willisthers some complex command that can do it -05:53
Dr_willisbut its like a /dev/sd# deviice isent it? or similer?05:53
Agent_bobecho $UUID  ?05:53
Agent_bobuid ?05:53
Dr_willisthats User id.  :) not the devices UUID.05:53
Dr_willis!uuid05:53
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)05:53
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Agent_bobblklist05:54
Agent_bobblkid05:54
Bearcathello all05:54
Agent_bobwhich ever you have.05:54
jbruckmanhello!05:54
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fakepatriotcan anyone tell me how to install things from a cd with Wine?05:55
Agent_bobalso tune2fs will show the UUID for an fs i think...05:55
Bearcati'm an oldie to linux but a newbie to kubuntu. I just installed kubuntu 6.06 (it was the only disc i had). Clicking on Fetch Updates in synaptic gives me no changes. Can i assume this is because the repository addresses are out of date? if so, where can i download a good default repository file from?05:55
Bearcatjbruckman: hello05:55
Admiral_ChicagoBearcat: no, it fetches updates, but doesn't install them05:56
fakepatriotdid you enable all of the deb repositories?05:56
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Admiral_Chicagofor that you want to commit changes or something like that. ful upgrade05:56
fakepatriotoh yeah...yoiu need to click apply changes to install them...05:56
Agent_bobtune2fs -l /dev/hda1 | grep UUID         addressing may very.05:56
Bearcathmmm05:57
koyo001where can i get a wmv viewer05:57
Agent_bobvlc05:57
fakepatriot!mplayer05:57
Admiral_ChicagoBearcat: did you apply?05:57
ubotumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs05:57
koyo001does anyone know05:57
koyo001mplayer05:57
Agent_bobkoyo001 you just got two answers05:57
Agent_bobvlc  and mplayer05:57
koyo001vlc05:58
fakepatriotyep05:58
Agent_bobhow many do you want ?05:58
koyo001thanks05:58
koyo001will try searching them05:58
fakepatriot!vlc05:58
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs05:58
fakepatriot!mplayer05:58
ubotumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs05:58
Bearcatthere we go. Got it!05:58
Agent_bob!info vlc05:58
koyo001i just want one05:58
BearcatThanks :)05:58
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB05:58
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koyo001but one that plays everything05:58
Agent_bobthat's the one i meant   ^05:58
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fakepatriotcan anyone tell me how to install things from a cd with Wine?05:59
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Agent_bobwine /media/cdrom/setup.exe06:00
Agent_bob?06:00
fakepatriotdoes that work?06:00
fakepatriotill try06:00
Agent_bobsome times.06:00
fakepatriotwell it's WoW06:00
Agent_bobbeats me, never tried it.06:01
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fakepatriotnice06:01
koyo001i have problems with adept06:01
fakepatriotneh doesn't seem to be working....06:01
koyo001it says it cannot commit packages06:01
fakepatriotdid you give it $3?06:02
koyo001can anyone help me out06:02
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Agent_bobecho $3 1 2 306:02
Agent_bobkoyo001 what are you trying to do in adept ?06:03
fakepatriotno actually im not sure what is wrong...i am only about a week or two into linux...06:03
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koyo001just trying to instsall06:04
draikWhat is a good P2P app?06:04
draikThe new frostwire won't start06:04
Bearcatwow. adept is nice06:04
koyo001or upgrade06:04
Bearcatsure alot faster then my distro :)06:04
koyo001does not let me do anything06:04
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Agent_bobkoyo001 open a konsole and type in     sudo echo yes06:05
Necronomiconkubuntu minimal requirements?06:05
Agent_boblets make sure you have sudoers rights.06:05
bigredradio"Network Manager" sees my wireless device as a wired device. Anyone heard of this before?06:05
koyo001ok typed it06:05
koyo001what is that command supposed to do06:06
Agent_bobdid it way  yes ?06:06
koyo001reset06:06
koyo001yes06:06
koyo001it said yes06:06
koyo001but what does that mean06:06
Agent_bobmeans sudo is working ok . hmmmm   kill the adept package manager and do this.06:07
Necronomiconkubuntu system minimal requeriments06:07
Necronomicon??06:07
Agent_bobkdesu adept06:07
Agent_bobno wait.06:07
Jucatoon Dapper: kdesu adept06:07
Agent_bobthat wont give you output.06:07
Jucatoon Edgy: kdesu adept_manager06:07
draikWhat is a good P2P app?06:07
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Jucatodraq06:08
Agent_bobJucato we need output.06:08
Jucatodraik: of which kind?06:08
JucatoAgent_bob: run it in Konsole?06:08
Jucatodraik: torrent = KTorrent is good enough for regular needs.06:08
draikmusic06:08
Agent_bobyes.  but kdesu will dump the output to null wont it ?06:08
Jucatooh that kind...06:08
JucatoAgent_bob: hm...06:08
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koyo001ok06:09
koyo001so in the end06:09
koyo001what the hell am i supposed to do06:09
Agent_bobkoyo001 try  kdesu adept_manager06:09
Mena_hey pla some one see this fstab http://pastebin.com/88637506:09
Mena_bec i had a problem with fat3206:09
koyo001humm06:09
Agent_boblets see if it gives error messages in the konsole.06:09
koyo001will try that06:09
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JucatoAgent_bob: it does give messages before it starts running06:10
koyo001is kdesu a program06:10
Agent_bobJucato but if there are errors while running ?    i don't think the konsole will get them will it ?06:10
Agent_bobyes06:10
Agent_boblike sudo06:10
koyo001or a command06:10
Jucatoexcept if it crashes06:10
Mena_plz*06:10
Agent_bob!kdesu06:10
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo06:11
Jucatokoyo001: a command is a program :)06:11
Agent_bobMena_ what problem ?06:11
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koyo001ok gimme a sec06:11
Mena_Agent_bob, the fat32 cant be mounted06:11
Jucatocan or can't?06:12
Mena_cant*06:12
Mena_sorry ^_^06:12
Jucatowhat error is "mount" giving you?06:12
Mena_hey its cant06:12
Mena_sorry again06:12
Mena_hehe06:12
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Mena_jucato, can't find hda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab06:13
koyo001ok tried it06:13
Agent_bobMena_ so try the physical address rather than the UUID for that fs06:14
Agent_bob /dev/hda306:14
JucatoMena_: what command are you using to mount it?06:14
JucatoI'm also not sure if "defaults" should be in there06:14
Admiral_Chicagosudo fdisk -l will list them06:14
Jucatooh, and it should be "vfat" not "fat32"06:14
Agent_bobJucato defaults is fine there.  but it should be mounted at boot with those settings.06:15
Jucatoah ok06:15
Agent_bobyes vfat or auto06:15
Jucatothe line generated by mountconfig for me doesn't have defaults06:15
Agent_bobMena_ Jucato found it.    vfat06:15
Jucatothere is a very unknown GUI for creating mount points and mounting in Kubuntu :)06:16
Mena_jucato, so what is the solution here bec i am lost06:16
Mena_:)06:16
JucatoMena_: change fat32 to vfat first06:16
Agent_bobJucato i've done it with and without defaults,   doesnt matter. anything after that takes priority.06:16
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Mena_jucato, ok06:16
Agent_bobMena_ change fat32 to vfat06:16
Agent_bobi'm slow.06:17
Mena_agent_bob , ok06:17
Mena_ :)06:17
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Agent_bobkoyo001 so how goes the war now ?06:17
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koyo001well no change06:18
Agent_bobis it working ?  is it not ?    do we have error messages to work with ?06:18
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koyo001trying to update to see if it can do it06:18
Agent_bob do we have error messages to work with ?06:18
koyo001not working from what i can see06:18
koyo001stays jammed06:19
koyo001frozen06:19
Agent_bobeeeek.06:19
koyo001at 0 %06:19
Agent_boband no messages in the konsole ?06:19
Jucatoat these times, it's better to try using apt-get06:19
Mena_What vfat its fat1606:19
koyo001none06:19
Mena_??? :)06:19
JucatoMena_: it's both06:19
Jucatovfat = fat16 *and* fat3206:19
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Agent_bobkoyo001 ok kill that and do an       sudo apt-get update06:19
Mena_jucato , ok but the part is fat32  i didnt get you right06:20
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JucatoMena_: change the entry in fstab from fat32 to vfat06:20
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JucatoMena_: because Linux sees fat16 and fat32 as one type of filesystem = vfat06:21
Agent_bobMena_ actually vfat = vertual (fat == "file allocation table")06:21
Mena_ok :)06:21
Jucatoor "virtual" :D06:21
Mena_ 8-)06:21
Agent_bobyeah that too06:21
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Agent_bobon tuesdays06:21
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koyo001doing a apt get update06:22
koyo001ok that worked06:22
Dr_willisand fat21 ?06:23
Dr_willisand fat1206:23
Dr_willis:)06:23
Agent_bobkoyo001 ok now you can      sudo apt-get upgrade           or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   if you prefer.06:23
Dr_willisapt-get me a beer06:23
Agent_bobvery little differance in the two but they are different.06:23
Agent_bobDr_willis and fat8 for that matter can be mounted as  vfat06:24
Mena_ wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/disk/by-uuid/45D5-3FDE, missing codepage or other error06:24
Mena_  In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try06:24
Mena_       dmesg | tail  or so06:24
UberuxtermAgent_bob, can i download theme packs, etc? using apt-get ..what is something good for kde 3.2 window decorations06:25
Jucatoyou sure you got the correct UUID?06:25
Agent_bobMena_ ok so now try the address like i mentioned first.06:25
Mena_jucato , yes06:25
Agent_bob!kdelook06:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdelook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
JucatoMena_: first try using /dev instead of UUID06:25
Jucato!themes | Uberuxterm06:25
ubotuUberuxterm: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:25
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Jucato!changethemes | Uberuxterm06:25
ubotuUberuxterm: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu06:25
Mena_ok06:26
AdydasNvidia lack of GLX how do i fix that?06:26
Agent_bobUberuxterm that   ^06:26
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DaSkreechHello all06:26
Jucatohi DaSkreech06:26
Agent_bob!ati | Adydas06:26
ubotuAdydas: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:26
DaSkreechhow are you?06:26
koyo001ok06:26
Adydasand err why is  Load    "glx" in my xorg.conf06:26
Adydasi dont use ati06:26
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Adydasi use nvidia and its installed06:26
JucatoAdydas: points to the same page06:27
koyo001still stuck06:27
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Adydasand apparantrly the module is active06:27
koyo001did the apt get06:27
koyo001that worked06:27
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Agent_bobkoyo001 message  ?06:27
jbruckmanwhy is everything so laggy?06:27
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jbruckmanis it the server, or just me?06:27
DaSkreechJucato: If ou need me Ping :)06:27
Mena_jucato , agent_bob, i did that delet the uuid and type /dev/hda3 and now its telling me cant find06:27
koyo001Reading package lists... Done06:27
Agent_bobjbruckman servers are lagging a little tonight06:27
DaSkreechJucato: working on another window06:28
koyo001last message posted from apt get06:28
Mena_jucato , agent_bob, i did wrong ?06:28
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JucatoDaSkreech: do I ever need you? :)06:28
Jucatoj/k06:28
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jbruckmanAgent_bob: okay. glad it isn't just me then.06:28
Jucatokoyo001: that's from "sudo apt-get update" right?06:28
jbruckmanAgent_bob: thanks06:28
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DaSkreechJucato: No you are the man! But I can't help hanging on your magnificent coattails06:28
DaSkreechJucato: can you blame me?06:28
Jucatohahah :)06:28
Agent_bobMena_ sudo fdisk -l | grep hda06:28
c-ronhow can i get the kmix sound control applet back into my system tray upon boot? right now it only displays when i load kmix manually06:28
koyo001yeah sudo apt get06:29
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Admiral_Chicagojbruckman: i did a mad lag a bit ago. its the network06:29
AdydasIs this good? direct rendering: Yes06:29
Jucato!autostart | c-ron06:29
ubotuc-ron: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.06:29
Mena_Agent_bob, ok06:29
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ashu_#join #ltsp06:29
Jucatoc-ron: put a link to /usr/bin/kmix in ~/.kde/Autostart folder06:29
UberuxtermAgent_bob how do i switch between Window managers?06:29
JucatoAdydas: yes. that means you have OpenGL direct rendering06:29
JucatoUberuxterm: from the Session type in the Login Screen06:29
c-ronthanks, i'll try those06:29
Agent_bobMena_ that should show you the partition you are looking for.   if it's no longer hda3  then adjust apropretly.06:29
Uberuxtermok06:29
Admiral_Chicagoyou could just right click. create link to application. That's a simple way for me to do it c-ron & Jucato06:30
UberuxtermJucato i cant do it if im already in kde?06:30
Mena_Agent_bob, ok06:30
Adydasok so what does this error mean, Assertion failed: FriendlyName!=NAME_None [File:UnClass.cpp]  [Line: 684] 06:30
koyo001=jucato06:30
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: notice I said "link". I didn't specify which kind of link for some reason :)06:30
Jucatokoyo001: ok, what were you doing in Adept that make it say "can't commit changes"?06:31
Agent_bobUberuxterm not sure kde will let you do that.  twm blackbox fluxbox icewm xfce   and a few others will let you switch from the menu.06:31
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: good point. I'm going to bed06:31
koyo001upgrading06:31
koyo001or trying to download a package06:31
Jucatokoyo001: you clicked on Full Upgrade?06:31
koyo001yeah06:31
Jucatokoyo001: try to do the same using apt-get. see if it will give you errors06:31
Mena_Agent_bob, the command you give me didnt work i did that sudo fdisk -l and its hda306:32
stdinUberuxterm: you can try just killing kwin and starting the other window manager from konsole06:32
koyo001how can i run it06:32
koyo001what command06:32
koyo001to make full upgrade06:32
Jucatokoyo001: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" <---that's the equivalent of Full Upgrade in Adept06:32
koyo001from the console right???06:32
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Agent_bobMena_ ok.   try this.    sudo mount /dev/hda3 -t vfat /media/hda306:33
Mena_Agent_bob, in any way i try it again and its hda306:33
koyo001ok06:33
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Uberuxtermstdin what would i type in to start enlightenment?06:33
koyo001same problem06:33
Agent_bobif that says anything then lets see it.06:33
koyo001but i know where it crashes06:33
Mena_Agent_bob, it didnt say any thing i think it mounted it06:34
stdinUberuxterm: probably just "enlightenment"06:34
koyo001it crashes at loading the  sun-java5-bin06:34
Agent_bobMena_ lets see the line in the fstab again    after you have adjusted it.06:34
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Mena_Agent_bob, ok06:34
c-ronhow can i set fstab to mount vfat drive r/w for users?06:34
Agent_bobit's one line you can put it here.06:35
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JucatoUberuxterm: it's not really advisable to manually start another window manager without killing the currently running one, afaik06:35
Mena_Agent_bob, ok06:35
Agent_bobc-ron man mount   / mask06:35
Mena_UUID=/dev/hda3         /media/hda3    vfat    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       106:35
Jucatoerrr...06:35
stdinMena_: UUID=/dev/hda3 ???06:35
Agent_bobMena_ remove   UUID=06:35
Jucatoremove the "UUID="06:35
Mena_hahahah sorry06:36
Agent_bobMena_ :)06:36
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Agent_bobc-ron note the line that Mena_ posted.   see the  umask=   that's sort of what you want.06:36
koyo001help06:37
koyo001help06:37
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Croooowusing mapping with guessnet for my eth0 in interfaces. my PC Card NIC isn't automatically configuring -- I have to do a manual ifup after insertion. if I use just iface, it does automatically configure. any ideas?06:37
c-ronis umask= value like chmod?06:37
Jucatokoyo001: sudo dpkg --configure -a06:37
Agent_bobc-ron M$ file systems don't have permissions bits  so the linux system sets a vertual permission for the whole fs.06:37
Agent_bobso yes sort of.06:38
c-ronokay06:38
Mena_Okay friends its finaly mounted hehehehehehe ....Good Work06:38
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koyo001dpkg: status database area is locked by another process06:38
Mena_Sorry i was stupied  :)06:38
underdog5004ahhh, I finally dropped that 200 gig into my torrent server...I feel accomplished... (just wish I'd known that I'd set my cdrom to be master even though it was slave-on-cable...)06:38
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stdinc-ron: umask is kinda the opposite of chmod, it takes permissions away from 777, chmod add permissions to 00006:39
ForgeAushey all :)06:39
underdog5004howdy06:39
Agent_bobc-ron if you read in the man page.  you will note that there are three masks   umask dmask and fmask06:39
brett_my mplayer will not play movies off of the web... is there a better program to us06:39
brett_e06:39
ForgeAusbrb06:39
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Adydasbrett_: VLC06:40
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stdinmaybe a codec issue tho, brett_06:40
koyo001how do i send the message directly to you jucato06:40
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Admiral_Chicagomplayer-plugin06:40
Admiral_Chicagobrett_: ^^06:41
brett_i can watch the movies fine if i download them first06:41
Jucatokoyo001: what do you mean?06:41
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brett_i have the plugin... it trys to load but ends up taking forever and never loads06:41
Jucatosleep Admiral_Chicago! sleep...06:41
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brett_!adept_crash06:41
brett_!adept crash06:41
koyo001to make my message in red for you to see it better06:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept_crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:41
ubotuadept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB06:41
brett_!adeptcrash06:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:41
koyo001what is the keys to put before your name06:42
Jucato!adeptfix | brett_06:42
ubotubrett_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:42
brett_thanks Jucato06:42
Jucatokoyo001: just mention my nick an I will see it in red06:42
Jucatoit's automatic06:42
stdinkoyo001: just type the nick name, like this message will appear red to you06:42
Mena_Jucato, this must enble permisison ofr me right (((sudo chmod 777 /media/hda3))06:42
Mena_for*06:42
koyo001jucato ok06:43
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JucatoMena_: hmmm? afaik, you don't need to do that, since you set umask already06:43
Mena_jucato, but i cant past any file in it06:43
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koyo001jucato  dpkg: status database area is locked by another process06:43
JucatoMena_: /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,rw,users 0 006:44
Jucatowow! what a coincidence.. we both have FAT32 on the same partition...06:44
koyo001jucato that was the error message that apeared06:44
Agent_bobMena_ no. the umask=007,gid=46   is where you get perms06:44
Jucatokoyo001: is Adept closed when you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?06:44
Mena_jucato, heheeh ok06:44
Agent_bobmight i sujest the gid might be wrong06:44
koyo001jucato yes06:44
Jucato!adeptfix | koyo00106:45
ubotukoyo001: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 06:45
Jucatokoyo001: enter those commands ^^^^06:45
Jucato(from sudo to -a)06:45
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koyo001jucato06:46
Jucatokoyo001?06:46
koyo001jucato did that06:46
Jucatoand?06:46
koyo001jucato and where do i go from there06:47
Agent_bobMena_ you can    man mount    for help with vfat mounting   and note to all  search in the manpages is  /  or ? for backwards06:47
Mena_Agent_bob, ok06:47
Croooowdoes anyone see why my eth0 interface requires a manual ifup? here is my '/etc/network/interfaces', sanitized of course ;-) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6987/06:47
koyo001jucato because these are the same commands i am running and they still dont yield result06:47
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Jucatokoyo001: it finished processing and stuff? apt-get and adept should be working properly now06:47
koyo001jucato well its not06:48
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Jucatokoyo001: ok. what command are you using right now to test if it's working or not? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?06:48
koyo001jucato stays jammed installing the sun java 506:48
Jucatokoyo001: in Adept?06:48
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koyo001jucato yeah06:48
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Jucatokoyo001: ok... don't use Adept when installing Java06:49
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Agent_bobkinda like the EULA of the free world    man man   when you find your way out you can install.06:49
Jucatokoyo001: use the command line. close Adept again and run "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" again06:49
Jucatokoyo001: just remember. don't use Adept for installing Java or Flash or VMWare06:49
koyo001jucato the problem is if i am using the console it is one of the recomended updates therefore tries to update it automaticaly06:49
Agent_bobconsole != konsole06:50
Jucatokoyo001: then upgrade in Konsole06:50
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koyo001jucato exactly that is the problem06:50
Jucatokoyo001: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:51
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koyo001jucato it automaticaly starts the upgrade till sun java506:51
Jucatokoyo001:  in Konsole. not in Adept06:51
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Jucato!java06:52
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:52
Jucatothere06:52
Jucatoboy was that annoying...06:52
koyo001jucato douing everything from konsole06:52
Jucatokoyo001: just for java, just for this time06:52
c-rongood i can r/w now to my vfat drive. thanks!06:52
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Agent_bobc-ron welcome.06:53
koyo001jucato06:53
koyo001Errors were encountered while processing:06:53
koyo001 /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb06:53
koyo001 /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_all.deb06:53
koyo001 /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic_2.6.17.1-11.35_i386.deb06:53
koyo001E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:53
Jucato!pastebin | koyo00106:53
ubotukoyo001: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:53
Jucatonext time use that when pasting multiple lines06:53
Jucatokoyo001: try "sudo apt-get -f install" (fix install)06:54
Agent_bob-f = fix missing06:54
koyo001gives me errors06:55
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DaSkreechJucato: Kubuntu doesn't ship with firefox06:55
koyo001jucato how do i use pastebin06:55
JucatoDaSkreech: huh?06:55
DaSkreech!paste | koyo00106:55
ubotukoyo001: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:55
DaSkreechJucato: The Ubuntu book says Kubuntu ships with the latest firefox06:55
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: really? let me know what pages, I'll send it to the proper channels06:56
JucatoDaSkreech: oh I think they fixed that after Edgy was released06:56
Admiral_Chicagothat was for Dapper LTS06:56
DaSkreechAdmiChap7 Page 25206:56
Admiral_Chicagothe official ubuntu book that is,06:56
koyo001jucato gave me error06:56
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: I'm reading the next version now06:57
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: new == ?06:57
Jucatokoyo001: I'm a bit confused on what to do next...06:57
DaSkreechhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6990/06:57
DaSkreechRead ^^^06:57
koyo001well maybe if you knew what the error was06:57
Admiral_Chicagoworkin on it06:58
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koyo001witch i cant post not to flod the channel06:58
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gugu^How to auto mount a floppy06:58
DaSkreechkoyo001: Pastebin gave you an error?06:58
Admiral_Chicagoan argument can be made about language. technically it is installed but not by default06:58
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: Feisty version?06:59
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: Good guess :)06:59
Agent_bobDaSkreech the ubuntu pastebin gives me errors.06:59
Agent_bobi can read but can't post.06:59
DaSkreechAgent_bob: What errors?06:59
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: hmm, you might read my recipe then at some point06:59
Agent_bobno biggy i just use another pastebin.06:59
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DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: They have Kubuntu recipes?07:00
koyo001not pastebin07:00
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Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: so it's sent away know, it should be addressed soon07:00
Jucatokoyo001: paste the errors in pastebin. click on paste. then give us the link07:00
MenaAgent_bob, the same i cant make any thing with permisison07:00
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: no, i sent one about Ubuntu, basically how to install Kubuntu desktop07:00
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: Cool07:00
MenaAgent_bob, i tried many things07:00
Admiral_Chicagoand Edubuntu and Xubuntu07:00
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: Ha ha :) They have that in this chapter :)07:00
Menaor jucato ???:)07:01
Agent_bobMena ?   still wrong umask fmask dmask uid gid settings ?07:01
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JucatoMena: please paste the line in your fstab again07:01
Menaok07:01
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: well, my recipe should be included so I get a free book :). Going to bed now officially07:01
Agent_bobMena oh and you have to sudo mount -o remount /media/hda3   for changes in fstab to take affect07:02
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: Night07:02
MenaAgent_bob, i restart07:02
Agent_bobMena   sudo mount -o remount /media/hda307:02
Agent_bobdon't restart.... this is not window.07:02
MenaAgent_bob, ok07:02
Agent_bobpfft.07:02
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Agent_bobmena how much access to you want >?07:03
Menaagent_bob, all permisison for me07:03
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koyo001Errors were encountered while processing:07:04
koyo001 /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic_2.6.17.1-11.35_i386.deb07:04
koyo001E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)07:04
koyo001humm that did not work very well07:04
koyo001try to paste it07:04
Menahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6993/07:04
koyo001tried to paste it07:04
Agent_bobchange the line to.    /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat dmask=022,fmask=133,uid=<put your uid here> 0 007:04
Adydashow do you get fps from glxgears?07:04
Adydasno man file :/07:05
Menaok07:05
Agent_bobMena if you don't know your uid.   echo $UID07:05
DaSkreechAdydas: --iacknowledgethatthistooolisnotabenchmark07:05
Agent_bobsomething like   *,uid=1000 0 007:06
Agent_bobDaSkreech tooo many ooos07:06
Agent_bobin toool07:06
DaSkreechoooooooh!07:06
xosswhen installing kdevelop 3.4 i get this error when i do ./configure:07:07
xossconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check07:07
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: it's not correct, it will be fixed. good looking out07:07
Agent_bobxoss install build-essential07:07
Agent_bobxoss why are you building ?07:07
pirodoes ssh go off of the users on the local computer? so if the comp was named hole.com and a user jon was on it you could do ssh jon@hole.com and you would just enter w.e password jon had locally no?07:08
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xosswill try to use kdevelop..07:08
Jucatoxoss: um? Kdevelop is available from the repos07:08
Jucatothe latest stable07:08
Jucato3.407:08
Agent_bobpiro yep07:08
pirowell then my local is completely f'ed in the hole07:09
piroi get permission denied rofl07:09
Adydasok whats a good benchmark fps program for kubuntu ( that it can use )07:09
Jucatoxoss: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php07:09
xossi tried it but it didnt find the package, i tried using apt-get07:09
Admiral_Chicagoxoss: apt-cache search will let search07:09
xosstried it to..07:10
Jucatoxoss: you need to add the kubuntu.org repository for kde 3.5.607:10
Agent_bobpiro is sshd running on that hole ?07:10
xossi even edit the sources.list07:10
xosshmm..07:10
Admiral_Chicagooh Jucato is right as always07:10
piroi've done /etc/init.d/ssh restart07:10
piroand i get bac restartin openBSD secure shell server07:11
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: heh not always. and you should be sleeping07:11
Menaagent_bob, i couldnt make any thing in  any way i coppied the file i need with terminal until i come again to see this thig more clrearly07:11
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Admiral_Chicagoi'm eating EasyMac...might as well be productive07:11
muuhBDX thers alarm in car that dosenT stop its 6 am FFS !07:11
Menaclearly* .........thanks friends :)07:11
muuhBDXcant you do something about it !!!?07:11
Agent_bobMena would you care showing me the one line from the fstab now ?07:11
MenaAgent_bob , ok07:12
Agent_bobi'll just make sure it's sane.07:12
MenaAgent_bob , ok07:12
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JucatomuuhBDX: we certainly can't. so there's no reason to announce that here07:12
muuhBDXim not so sure07:12
Menaas jucato said its the same as mine so take his line and put it(( /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat    uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,rw,users      0       007:13
Agent_bobmuuhBDX true it could get you kicked out of the channel.....  that would always help you...07:13
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JucatoMena: er.. make sure that the uid and gid there matches yours07:13
Agent_bobno  there are no mask's in that.07:13
Menaagent_bob, 1000 = 777 or not07:13
Mena:)07:14
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Jucatoyep no masks. it automatically gives me ownership of the mount/partition07:14
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Agent_bobno there are NO mask 's in that you just posted.07:14
Menaso what is the wrong here ~_~07:14
pirowhat command do i use to see what services/daemons are running?07:14
Menai think its on me07:14
Menaheheh07:14
Agent_bob /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,rw,users 0 007:14
Agent_bobthat's what you said   ^07:15
Menaok so07:15
Menajucato , said 1000=777 so what is wrong07:15
Agent_bob /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 007:15
Agent_bobthat's what i said  ^07:15
pironm with ps aux | grep sshd I found that yes it is running07:15
Agent_bobsee the "mask" 's07:15
JucatoMena: I never said 1000=77707:15
Agent_bobMena try that    ^07:16
Menajucato, you told me that 1000 give you the owner ship right07:16
Agent_bobMena try that    ^07:16
Agent_bob /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 007:16
JucatoMena: mask = for permissions, not ownership07:16
Jucato1000 is my User ID (uid).07:16
MenaAgent_bob, ok..........Jucato, ok07:16
MenaAgent_bob,so the wrong is on me heheeh :)07:17
Jucato1000 is also my Group ID (gid)07:17
Agent_bobMena too many cooks in the kitchen07:17
Agent_bobor is it kooks ?07:17
Jucatoby putting uid=1000, I have complete ownership of that partition/mount. and by being the owner, that gives me permissions07:17
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Menaheheeh :D07:17
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DaSkreech!ps307:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:18
DaSkreech!xbox07:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:18
piro!ssh07:18
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/07:18
Agent_bobJucato i also told him to use   echo $UID    i don't think he did.07:18
MenaAgent_bob,no i did it was 100007:18
Agent_bobpiro firewall blocking port 22 ?07:19
Agent_bobMena ok.07:19
Menaok07:19
JucatoAgent_bob: this cook is going out of the kitchen now. you have the pots :)07:19
Agent_boband when you save that   sudo mount -o remount /media/hda307:19
Agent_bobtest it    it works now.07:20
Menano its not07:20
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Menai just copied the line you gave....any wrong here or i must change the fmask07:20
Jucatooops! the cook was supposed to be out07:20
Agent_bobJucato yeah redundant.  i add mask you add id he still don't get perms.07:21
Jucatoactually, I didn't tell him to add anything. I just showed him *my* fstab line... generated by the mountconfig GUI07:21
Agent_bobJucato worth a try.07:21
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: how can I check what version of kdm i'm using. i did kdm -v and kdm --version but those don't wonk07:21
Agent_bobMena sudo umount /dev/hda307:22
MenaAgent_bob , ok07:22
Agent_bobMena sudo mount /dev/hda307:22
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Agent_bobnow try it.07:22
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: apt-cache policy kdm is the only other way I can think of07:22
Agent_bobif that works i'll throw all the pots and pans at Jucato07:22
JucatoO.O07:22
Agent_bob:)07:23
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Admiral_Chicagobrilliant07:23
Menaokay the cook has been out07:23
Agent_bobMena ?07:24
Agent_bobis that a yes or no ?07:24
Menaor had i dont know i dont remeber the gramer good bec its not primary lang (eng)07:24
Menaits working07:24
Menai can  past to it07:24
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MenaAgent_bob, Yes...Jucato, yes ....all here yes :)07:25
Menathanks07:25
Jucatogood to hear07:25
Agent_bobok i learned that -o remount only works where you specify the options.     i have used it that way on occation.   mount -o remount,ro   or ,rw   or even ,nosuid     .... jucato  you win.   it's all yours now.07:25
fullmetalsomeone got a sec for an install question?07:25
Menathanks thanks that you carry me07:25
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fullmetal????????07:26
Menahhaahahh me to i will add steps you give the tips note :)07:26
Menato*07:27
Jucato!ask07:27
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:27
fullmetaloh07:27
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fullmetalwell i am trying to do an install and it says i have a bad archie mirror07:27
fullmetalarchive07:27
Agent_bobfullmetal so pastebin your sources.list07:28
fullmetal?? im doing an install07:28
Jucato!pastebin | fullmetal07:28
ubotufullmetal: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:28
fullmetalon a laptop, over network07:28
Jucatofullmetal: installing Kubuntu?07:28
Jucatooh...07:28
Jucatohm...07:28
fullmetalim on desktop, gentoo07:29
Menabye bye Agent_bob bye bye Jucato....thanks07:29
koyo001still cannot run adept07:29
Mena:D07:29
Agent_bobMena welcome07:29
fullmetalso anyone haev an idea?07:30
Necronomiconwowwwwwwww!!! a big lot of linux games  http://gaming.gwos.org/07:30
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surgyWOW!!!07:34
ForgeL(07:34
Forgegrrr damn typos07:34
Forge:)07:34
nibletsWhen I try to connect Amarok to my iPod, I get the following message "KLibLoader could not load the plugin:libamarok_ipod-mediadevice     Error message:/usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_ipod-mediadevice.so: undefined symbol:_ZN6amaroK9StatusBar10s_instanceE07:34
nibletsIs there any way to fix this?07:34
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Forgehow come linux apps depend on so much version-specific stuff?07:35
Forgeevery time I try to add or remove anything QT it says its goina breaks something else...07:36
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Forgeand this package I'm trying to compile needs qt h eaders >= 3.007:37
bumzohi good kubuntu pple07:37
eeanmwhich means you don't have any qt headers at all Forge07:37
bumzoi need help07:37
surgyforge: i had the same problem i had to add the bleeding edge kubuntu repo and update to fix07:37
bumzohow do i get to ''korganiser'' ??07:37
Jucatobumzo: through Kontact07:38
eeanmsurgy: qt 3.0 is like... 5 years old?07:38
Forgeeek bleeding edge? sounds like trouble07:38
Jucatoor Alt+F2, "korganizer"07:38
eeanmhardly bleeding edge!07:38
JucatoForge: huh?07:38
Jucato!info libqt3-mt07:38
ubotulibqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3064 kB, installed size 8712 kB07:38
Forgeis that all I need?07:38
surgyits a lib file for qt the regular repos have a different and or older version07:38
vegasmcpccan somebody help me with adding something to my /etc/fstab?07:38
JucatoKubuntu uses Qt 3.3.607:38
eeanm!info libqt3-dev07:38
nibletsis there an Amarok support channel?07:38
ubotuPackage libqt3-dev does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas07:38
eeanmniblets: #amarok07:38
Jucato!info libqt3-mt-dev | Forge07:39
eeanm!info libqt3-devel07:39
ubotuforge: libqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 51 kB, installed size 168 kB07:39
ubotuPackage libqt3-devel does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas07:39
Forgenope says break07:39
nibletseeanm thanks07:39
Forgeconflicts with libqt-mt-dev! uh?07:39
Jucatoniblets: ^^^07:39
Forgeconflicts with libqt-emb07:39
bumzowhen i open kontact .... it doesntr look like the korganiser i had earlier seen07:39
Forgeand libqt3-dev07:39
JucatoForge: libqt3-mt-dev07:39
vegasmcpcanybody know how to find the uuid of a device?07:40
Jucatobumzo: Kontact is an app that combines and integrates PIM apps into one app.07:40
Jucato!uuid | vegasmcpc07:40
ubotuvegasmcpc: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)07:40
DaSkreech!kontact07:40
ubotukontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1574 kB, installed size 3400 kB07:40
Agent_bobi wish i new how to search for things on the web...07:40
bumzo!korganiser07:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about korganiser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:40
vegasmcpcok, do i just use sudo blkid?07:40
Jucatovegasmcpc: no nee for sudo07:41
Jucatobumzo: Kontact will run Korganizer inside it07:41
vegasmcpcjust type in blkid?07:41
bumzoi prefer korganiser ... now i cant seem to get it anywhere though it shows its installed from add remove progs07:41
Jucatovegasmcpc: yes. and you will get a list07:41
vegasmcpcJucato: thanks07:41
bumzook ... but how do i launch krganiser alone?07:41
JucatoAlt+F2, "korganizer"07:42
vegasmcpcJucato: i created a software raid set, and when i type in blkid i only get /dev/sdd1, /dev/hda1, and /dev/hda207:42
JucatoI wonder why you need to run that alone..07:42
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vegasmcpcJucato: am i to assume that /dev/sdd1 is the set?07:42
Jucatovegasmcpc: ah that I don't know.07:42
surgygood night jucato and gange07:42
Jucatonight surgy07:43
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Forgeback07:44
bumzoi see what u mean jucato ... THANKS07:44
ForgeJucato no dice... removing the conflicts removes too much important stuff..07:44
Forgekdm included!07:44
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JucatoForge: ok, let's start from the top. what are you trying to do in the first place?07:45
Forgecompile kio_wine07:45
Jucatohm.. ok...07:45
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Jucatoand ./configure requires what?07:46
Forgechecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!07:46
ForgeI had to install X ones earlier07:46
Jucato!pastebin | Forge07:46
ubotuForge: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:46
Forgegrrr it wasn't 2 lines!07:47
JucatoForge: using that, pastebin the errors when you try to install libqt3-mt-dev07:47
ForgeI just did paste the error07:47
JucatoForge: no that was in anticipation of what I was going to ask you next07:47
JucatoForge: and the contents of your sources.list07:47
Jucatoso 2 pastes :)07:47
Forgeoh ok07:47
Forgesources.list07:47
Forgeok brb I'll find it 4 u07:47
Forgeok this one needs pastebin07:48
JucatoForge: how about the errors when you're trying to install libqt3-mt-dev?07:48
vegasmcpcwhat's the command to make a new device?07:49
vegasmcpcisn't it mkdev or something?07:49
Forgepastebinned07:49
Jucatolink?07:49
Forgehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6999/ ???07:50
Jucatook me checks ;)07:50
Forgefirst time I used pastebin07:50
vegasmcpc!mkdev07:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mkdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:50
Forgeshouldn't u be able to search by user or something?07:50
JucatoForge: no. that's how pastebin works. you give the URL that comes out after pasting07:51
JucatoForge: now please pastebin the errors when you try to install libqt3-mt-dev07:51
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Forgetheres just one07:52
ForgeI already pasted the line above07:52
Forgeoh errors?07:52
Forgeits in adept no errors, just says BREAK (install)07:52
Jucatowhen you try to sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev07:52
Jucatouse apt-get :)07:52
Forgeok07:52
Jucatohm.. did you install stuff from Debian's repository????07:53
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ForgeI prolly did at some stage...07:53
Jucatooh krap07:53
Jucatothis is going to be difficult...07:53
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rootspain???07:53
Forge libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: libfontconfig1-dev but it is not going to be installed07:54
Forge                 Depends: libxft-dev but it is not going to be installed07:54
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JucatoForge: only those two?07:54
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Forgeyup but it says under it E: broken packages07:55
Forgewhich is strange there shouldn't be anything broken07:55
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Jucatounless you installed/upgraded stuff from some non-Kubuntu compatible repo, which could have messed things up07:55
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Forgethere weren't any broken ones that I know of yesterday07:55
rootspain07:55
Forgeits just the qt stuff that could have broken things07:56
rooti need help in spanhis07:56
rootplease07:56
Jucato!es | root07:56
uboturoot: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:56
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Jucatohm..07:57
piro_haha07:57
piro_thats a nice feature07:57
JucatoForge: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"07:57
Jucatoor wait07:57
Jucatono. no need.07:57
nibletsI was told on the Amarok channel that my Amarok  package is binary incompatible. Is there anyway to change it?07:57
Forgenothing07:58
JucatoForge: try installing those two (libfontconfig and libxft) (use apt-get)07:58
JucatoForge: oh btw, please disable the edgy-proposed repositories too07:58
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ForgeE: Couldn't find package libfontconfig07:58
Jucatoer?07:59
JucatoForge: Depends: libfontconfig1-dev but it is not going to be installed <--- that libfontconfig07:59
JucatoDepends: libxft-dev but it is not going to be installed <--- that libxft07:59
Forgelibfontconfig1-dev08:00
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Forgeuh?  libfontconfig1-dev: Depends: libfontconfig1 (= 2.3.2-7ubuntu2) but 2.4.2-1 is to be installed08:00
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Jucatohm.. wait08:01
Forgeproposed repos?08:01
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JucatoForge: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe and deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe08:02
Jucatodisable them (put a # at the beginning)08:02
Forgeyes commenting them out08:02
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Jucatothen "sudo apt-get update" and try installing again08:03
Forgewhy's it try and check through lotsa translation repos?08:03
Forgethey're not even in the sources.list08:03
Jucatohuh?08:04
Forgeeg:08:04
ForgeIgn http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Translation-en_US08:04
ForgeIgn http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_US08:04
nibletsDarn08:04
Jucatojust the localisation08:04
Jucatooh krap... I think I know why it's breaking... and this is what I feared...08:04
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Forgeoh and now it complains theres duplication08:05
ForgeW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)08:05
nibletsKonversation isnt good today08:05
Forgeniblets? in what way?08:06
codytNever cared for Konversation myself.08:06
JucatoForge: which did you disable? I'm referring to lines 38  and 39, which are duplicates of 34 and 3508:06
nibletsBoth this channel and Amarok gave me half answers, and then didnt elaborate as to how I can fix it08:06
Forgeum brb08:06
Jucatoniblets: how did it become Konversation's fault?08:07
Forgeyes 38 and 39 are the ones I removed08:07
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JucatoForge: can you pastebin your new sources.list again?08:07
Forge34 and 35 were already commented out08:07
JucatoForge: but anyway, I think I no the problem08:07
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MenaJucto, how to make loading karamba themes doesnt appear in the kicker(taskbar)08:08
Menajucato*08:08
nibletsJucato It didnt, but it doesn't make it good either!08:08
nibletslol08:08
Forgekarumba themes?08:08
Menakaramba*08:08
Forgeyeah t hat08:08
nibletsI was talking about the community, as opposed to the softwar08:08
JucatoForge: perhaps at one time, you had the Debian unstable enabled, and  it upgraded packages from Ubuntu's to Debian's packages08:09
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Jucatoniblets: I still don't get it... Konversation community?08:09
Forgedoes that mean I need debian qt packages?08:09
JucatoForge: it means you have successfully managed to mess your system up...08:09
Forgeor that its just a strict versioning issue?08:09
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Jucatoand that future package installations will most probably fail as well08:09
nibletsJucato the people talking on the channels. IE: the community, isnt as good (responsive) as it usually is08:10
Jucatoniblets: ok....08:10
nibletsJucato I was just voicing my disappointment that I can't sort my problem out08:10
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ForgeJucato, so why won't a rewind work?08:11
Jucatoalthough the amarok devs are in #amarok too08:11
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Forgeie downgrade the nonubuntu (ala debian) ones... but how to distinguish/find them?08:11
Jucatoniblets: unfortunately that's how IRC support in FOSS projects work... you can't expect to get an answer immediately or even sometimes don't get an answer at all08:12
Agent_bobwho might not know all the answers to all questions <<<  ?  except jucato.    he's my hero.  he's smart.08:12
JucatoForge: that I'm not sure on how to do. it's not just a versioning issue, although it's obvious that Debian Unstable's versions are more updated that Kubuntu Edgy's08:12
Forgehehe yeah Jucato knows alot about kubuntu :)08:12
Jucatoer? no08:12
nibletsJucato Oh yea, I know that. I was just hopeful, is all08:12
Jucatothere are more who know more than me08:12
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Jucatoniblets: don't lose hope yet08:13
Agent_bobnunt uh.08:13
Jucatoniblets: for one, it's night time for half of the world08:13
Forgeniblets what was your problem anyway?08:13
Jucatoand Europe is just waking up08:13
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nibletsForge Amarok wont connect to my iPod. It will see it, but when I try to set up media devices and apply "apple iPod device" it gets a message about a faulty plugin08:14
nibletsJucato yea, I know, the only problem is, I go to sleep when they wake up!08:14
Agent_bobniblets this is linux.  it's your software.   you fix it.  you own it.    as much as any of the rest of us do, that is...08:14
Jucatoniblets: this is o Kubuntu dapper?08:14
Jucatoere08:15
JucatoEdgy08:15
ForgeAgentBob thats harsh08:15
nibletsJucato its edgy08:15
Forgesure its our software but if we don't know how to fix it ....08:15
Forgeniblets is it practical to reinstall thigns?08:15
Agent_bobForge let me guess.... ah we "plug and get mad"  ?08:16
nibletsAgent_bob is this not a HELP program? Surely asking for help is a given here? If you dont like to give out help, or aren't asking for help, this isnt the place for you?08:16
JucatoForge: unfortunately, I don't know of a solution for  you, as I don't know to what extent that damage has been... the only option I can think of right now is to upgrade to Feisty... which is as stable as Debian unstable right now... (not to mention probably having the same versions)08:16
nibletsForge things being???08:16
Forgelike firstly plugins, then probably amarok and/or ipod apps08:16
Agent_bobniblets touchy.    didn't mean to yank your chain dude.08:16
Jucatoniblets: you can probably try asking again a bit later when more people are... both here an in #amarok08:16
Agent_bobniblets what is the issue ?08:17
nibletsIt is practical from the point of view I can do it with help. Impractical, that I am newer to linux than most.08:17
Forgeniblets if you have kubuntu and use adept you should be fine08:17
Jucatoer.. "when more people are in"08:17
nibletsAgent_bob Sorry to sound snide, no hard feelings08:17
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Forgeno need for experience, just seach/install/ununstall/reinstall the related packages...08:17
nibletsForge I use adept, yea08:18
Jucatoniblets: but I'm sure the people in #amarok would know best. just have to be patient and wait. or08:18
Jucatoniblets: try researching while waiting08:18
Agent_bobniblets ah ipod problems... have see that mentioned a lot.   have you searched on the wiki/forums ?08:18
Jucatohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org http://kubuntuforums.net and http://www.google.com are good places to start08:18
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Jucato!ipod08:18
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod08:18
Jucatoniblets: that too ^^^08:18
Forgepersonally I don't like ipods08:19
Agent_bob!rockbox08:19
uboturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!08:19
nibletsJucato yea, I have been searching for a few days, and I tried searching the error message, but got no hits, and couldn't find anything related08:19
harmentalhey everybody....what do you recomend for comparing files: Kompare, Kdiff3 or Xxdiff?08:19
Agent_bobdiff08:20
Forgeany and/or all08:20
Forgeare you installing krusader?08:20
nibletsI tried that walkthrough thing a while back, no avail. Would you like a pastebin of the error message? Should make it a might easier to know what the problem is?08:20
Agent_bobdid you visit  http://www.rockbox.org/ ?08:20
harmentalForge: yeap08:20
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Jucatoharmental: I use kompare if I already have a .diff, and kdiff3 when I just want a quick look of 2 text files08:21
Forgeharmental they're all optional08:21
nibletsAgent_bob oh, sorry, no didnt see that message, going now...08:21
Jucatoniblets: no harm in a pastebin of the errors08:21
harmentalJucato: ok...but which one do you recommend for Krusader?08:21
Agent_bobmeh doesn't matter i'm not here to help anyway.  just idling.08:21
Forgeprobably kompare08:22
Jucatohm.. that I wouldn't know.. I don't use Krusader :)08:22
Forgesince its kde08:22
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Forgekrusader is kewl08:22
JucatoForge: kompare and kdiff3 are both KDE :)08:22
Agent_boband a hero because he's so smart.08:22
Forgeyeah and some other stuff uses kdiff3 from memory08:22
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nibletsgar, what was the pastebin site again?08:23
Jucato!pastebin | niblets08:23
ubotuniblets: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:23
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vegasmcpcwhat's the command to make a new mount point?08:27
nibletsOk, so the objective is to connect the iPod to Amarok to allow the usual music crap that you do with iPods, the error is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7001/08:27
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Agent_bobmkdir /blah08:27
Jucato!mount08:28
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:28
Jucatobah08:28
Jucatouseless lol08:28
Agent_bobmountpoint < ^08:28
Jucato!mountpoint08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mountpoint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:29
Jucatohm...08:29
Jucato!mounting08:29
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:29
Jucatook that's just... um..08:29
Agent_bobso go write us a factoid08:29
harmentalok...so ill give Kompare a try.....08:29
Jucatosome other time08:30
harmentalJucato: what do you mean by "if I already have a .diff"?08:30
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Jucatoharmental: if I already have a .diff file to work with vs. I take 2 text files and compare them08:30
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harmentalooooh....i've never used diff files......08:31
Jucato:)08:31
harmentalkind of newbie here.....08:31
nibletsJucato done =D08:31
Jucatoniblets: fixed?08:31
nibletsJucato No, sadly. Just pastebinned (an acheivement to be proud of, apparently)08:32
Jucatoah lol08:32
Jucatowhat's the URL?08:32
Jucatolink to your pastebin08:32
nibletshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7001/08:32
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Jucatoniblets: what version of amarok is this?08:35
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niblets1.4.408:35
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nibletsJucato ^^08:36
Jucatook for a while...08:36
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onewhat is the easiest way to send audiostream to a shoutcast server ?08:39
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Jucatoniblets: ok, I'm stumped... don't know where to go to.. :(08:40
nibletsJucato That's the conclusion I came to. Over in the Amarok channel, one of the people said that it was my Amarok that it was binary inmopatible. But didnt elaborate08:40
Jucatoniblets: ask him to elaborate.08:41
Jucato:D08:41
Jucatono really, ask him08:41
Jucatobut I don't know what do further, as I have no iPod...08:41
JucatoI have no experience08:41
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Agent_bobthat was my short comming also.08:42
nibletsJucato he is gone from the channel08:42
Jucatoniblets: try again some other time, or maybe try asking again in #amarok later08:42
Jucatothat's the only help/advice I can give right now08:43
nibletsJucato that's cool. Thanks.08:43
nibletsI was thinking of a full system reinstall. Just for shoots and giggles08:44
Agent_bobniblets also "sometimes"  and make that the key word   sometimes you can get a real 'guru' in ##linux08:44
scribzgot a wierd process in htop, root running -:008:44
scribzis that normal ?08:44
Jucatoyes08:44
Agent_bobyeah  that's the gui08:44
scribzx ?08:45
Agent_bobyep08:45
Jucatoyep08:45
scribzah right, thought it would have been called X11 or something08:45
scribzta08:45
Agent_bobi don't have that.    heh but i don't run a gui normally.08:45
scribzjust paranoid about security just now, firestarter shows constant activity even when i'm not doing anything08:46
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underdog5004whenever I try to run rtorrent, I get this message: rtorrent: FileManager::erase(...) could not find FileMeta in container.08:46
underdog5004anyone know what it means?08:46
JucatoAgent_bob: look for the kdm process08:46
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Agent_bobno that's xorg  or x11r6  either one.   it's the literal server denotation for the first xserver  :0.0 would be first server first screen.08:47
nibletsAgent_bob what do you mean?08:47
Agent_bobJucato no need i don't use a dm08:47
JucatoAgent_bob: ah, no wonder you don't have that "-:0" :)08:47
underdog5004ok, nvm, I just deleted my old sessions, and it workded.08:47
Agent_bobniblets about asking in  ##linux   ?08:48
underdog5004wait a sec...no it didnt!08:48
Jucatoniblets: btw, does amarok crash when you plugin your ipod?08:48
Agent_bobmy spelling gave me away.....08:50
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Jucatobah anyway... sorry I really don't know about iPod+ Amarok08:50
nibletsJucato It doesnt crash, it just pops up with that message when I plug in the iPod, and then carries on.08:50
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underdog5004yeah, so rtorrent'll run for about 7 seconds, then close with this message: rtorrent: FileManager::erase(...) could not find FileMeta in container.1/768]  [08:51
Agent_bobwell actually not only do i not use a dm,  login in impossable on this box.08:51
JucatoO.o08:51
Agent_bobso a dm would be useless.08:51
Jucatoyou and your weird setups08:52
Agent_bob:)08:52
Jucato(partitionless disks...)08:52
Agent_bobloginless accounts08:52
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Agent_bobsuidless systems08:52
JucatoI so hate you for being able to do these things :P08:52
Agent_bobless is more.08:52
Agent_boblol08:52
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Agent_bobno you don't   you secretly laugh at me for being dumb enough to try it....08:53
Jucatoalthough I did have my own krazy setup for a month08:53
Jucatoyou'll laugh if you knew what I did. but not as crazy as yours08:53
Agent_bobwhat you did ?08:53
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Jucatoinstalled a command line system (no X), then compiled everything KDE from source08:54
Jucato:D08:54
Jucatonot so krazy, but definitely krazy08:54
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Jucatoanyway, me goes now08:54
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Agent_bobJucato ok gooday mate.08:55
nibletsLater Jucato, thanks for the help08:55
scribzAgent_bob: loginless accounts ? - how ?08:55
piro_later jucato08:55
Agent_bobscribz init08:55
Lynx-How can I set up an autorun for a program in KDE?08:56
Agent_bob!autostart | Lynx-08:56
ubotuLynx-: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.08:56
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Lynx-thank you08:56
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deathnotehi how do i find out what debian i'm using? besides uname -r08:57
deathnotelike.. i wanna find out i'm using ubuntu or woody or sarge08:57
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underdog5004ok, I got the rtorrent: FileManager::erase(...) could not find FileMeta in container.1/768]   thing figured out. I was pointing rtorrent to the wrong dir. I recently moved all rtorrent stuff to /media/storage, instead of ~/rtorrent.08:58
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piro_so sshd is running but i think i might be screwed on logging in due to my public keys in .ssh or something cause my password isn't invalid so i imagine its permission denied due to my keys, anyway to just start over with keys?08:59
Agent_bobdeathnote ubuntu != debian.     but lsb_release -a08:59
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chavodeathnote, cat /etc/issue09:00
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Agent_bobpiro_ you can rm .ssh*   that will reset the accounts ssh keys09:00
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lu-baoGKrellM is a single process stack of system monitors which supports applying themes. is that one included inside kubuntu repository? :)09:01
piro_thx will try that09:01
chavolu-bao, yes09:01
lu-baochavo, nice :D thx ^^09:01
Agent_bobunderdog5004 nice :)     most of my problems turn out to be   'pebcak'  too09:01
Agent_bobchavo does  lsb_release -a    not work for you ?09:02
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Agent_boband do you never adjust the login messages ?09:02
lu-baochavo, does GKrellM has another name for KDE ? or doesnt G stay for gnome?09:02
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chavolu-bao, it uses gtk for the configuration window09:03
lu-baochavo, thank you :)09:03
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chavobut runs perfectly in kde09:03
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lu-baoand where to get gkrellm2 ? cause i found a manual clock plugin for gkrellm2 but cant find gkrellm2 package or similiar09:04
piro_well cleaned out .ssh, put putty still gives me access denied, and ssh'ing from an outside host into my home machine still gives me permission denied when using only password =|09:04
Agent_bob!gkrellm209:04
chavoapt-get install gkrellm will install gkrellm209:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gkrellm2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:04
Agent_bob!gkrellm09:05
ubotugkrellm: The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.9-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2060 kB09:05
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Agent_bobpiro_ you can     ssh name@localhost09:06
Agent_boblocal testing.09:06
Agent_boball you need is sshd running and lo up09:06
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piro_ya got both of those up09:07
piro_and i have been doing local and thats where i am getting permission denied09:07
Agent_bobso can you ssh in as yourself into localhost ?09:07
piro_no lol, thats the thing09:08
Agent_bobfirewall ?09:08
chavoyou should be able to09:08
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piro_well i get permission denied though not timeout or anything like that09:08
Agent_bobyeah unless iptables is blocking it.09:08
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piro_and my firewall is forwarded 2209:08
piro_on monowall09:08
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piro_i read something about iptables some where and i was going to come back to that as a last resort09:09
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Agent_boblooks like it needs to be a starting point.09:09
piro_like i recleared .ssh and then ran localhost again and i get the rsa key fingerprint prompt09:10
piro_then did the yes, and entered password and permission denied, please try again, if it was something network related, wouldn't i not be able to get that far?09:10
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Agent_bobpidof sshd09:11
ubuntu_how do i run a program such as qtparted as root in the live cd?09:11
Agent_bobsudo command.09:12
Agent_bobsudo qtparted09:12
piro_done, should  i kill it?09:12
Agent_bobno.09:12
Agent_bobit does give ONE pid ?09:12
piro_yup09:12
Agent_bobk09:12
Agent_bobifconfig | grep ' lo '09:13
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piro_lo        Link encap:Local Loopback09:13
ubuntu_it seys no device found, maby your not using root user09:13
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Agent_bobpiro_  iptables -L | grep 2209:14
ubuntu_hmm, is there a password to logg into root on the live cd?09:14
Agent_bobno09:14
Agent_bobsudo is running it as root.  that's not the issue.09:15
krautmoin09:15
piro_after a sudo command went in perfectly, no msgs09:15
Agent_bobubuntu_   sudo -i   if you must.09:15
Agent_bobpiro_ you can drop the   | grep part and see all rules09:16
deathnote!boot09:16
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto09:16
deathnote!bootmenu09:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootmenu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:16
piro_ah ok, well i get input forward and output and they are all blank09:17
Agent_bobi'm still thinking iptables is the problem.   but i'm no network nothin'09:17
Agent_boballow  and  deny ?09:17
piro_hm, thats lame, i didn't think i'd have done anything that would make my network on my local machine so complicated09:17
piro_nothing09:17
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piro_just policy accept in parens on all 3 categories09:17
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Agent_bobok it's not iptables.09:18
Agent_bobhmmmm09:18
piro_yup hehe09:19
ubuntu_whats the command to run a super user konsole09:19
deathnotehow does my machine choose which kernel to boot up if i got two? if i don't have grub09:19
Agent_bobbeen so long sense i setup ssh i don't recall if i "had" to do anything   i know i did change some configs but, don't think it was a must to get it working.  just added security.09:19
Agent_bobif you don't have grub ?09:20
piro_ya figured as much, i just added a new user to the local and went straight to try ssh and same thing so i am lost09:20
piro_ill check the config files and come back09:20
Agent_bobdeathnote did you setup lilo ?09:20
deathnotei saw a boot.b -> boot-menu.b in my /boot but boot-menu.b doesn't exist09:20
deathnoteAgent_bob: no but how can i default my machine to boot up another kernel?09:21
Agent_bobpiro_ /etc/ssh/sshd.conf iirc09:21
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intelikeymodem reset.09:22
intelikeydeathnote if you didn't setup lilo you have grub.09:22
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intelikeyso you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst09:22
deathnoteno i don't see grub in the /boot directory09:22
intelikeyi know of two ways that's possable.  but neither would be default.09:23
deathnoteok yes i have lilo09:23
deathnotehaha09:23
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deathnotefound /etc/lilo.conf09:23
intelikey1. you have another linux system and you are using the lilo/grub from that system to boot this one.    2. you have a boot partitions and set it to NOT mount.09:24
intelikeywhat verstion is that  feisty ?09:24
deathnotei think i got a sarge on this machine09:25
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deathnotehow to find out?09:25
intelikeyi'm not fameliar with feisty   but everything from warty to edgy used grub by default09:25
intelikeyoh  debian.09:25
intelikeyno wonder.09:25
intelikeyYOU ARE SUPPOSED TO TELL US IF IT'S NOT *BUNTU !09:26
deathnote./etc/debian_version says 3.1 so i guess its sarge09:26
intelikeyso for that mistake.   go ask in   #debian.09:26
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negxentaWhat is the arptable command to disable ARP for all IPs on the LAN except for 192.168.0.1?09:26
intelikeydeathnote wait.  i think there is a /etc/debian_version file in ubuntu too      what does   lsb_release -a   tell you ?09:27
deathnoteohh its edgy! haha sorry i'm confused09:28
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piro_Agent_bob: okay, i just went ahead and removed it and reinstalled it and sure enough that did the trick09:28
deathnoteok........ anyway i got it09:28
piro_no idea wtf was going on but thanks for you help09:28
intelikeypiro_ np.  welcome.09:29
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piro_now to get freenx working with keys hehe09:30
intelikeydeathnote you have me really curious.   did you say that you 'did not setup lilo'  and it is edgy installed  ???   that don't make sense to me.   edgy would have installed grub unless you setup lilo on purpose at install time.09:30
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nomad111i want to shoot myself now09:31
nomad111in all of linux world there is no decent circuit analysis program09:31
intelikeynomad111 what's wrong ?  no gun ?09:31
intelikeysorry bad joke.09:31
nomad111lol09:32
deathnoteyeah i saw it already.. grub09:32
nomad111i cant find anything good09:32
deathnotethe menu file09:32
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nomad111oregano is the closest thing to wat i want and its crap09:32
nomad111i dont think its maintained anymore09:32
ubuntu_I have a blank unforatted SDD what can I do to mount it on the live cd?09:33
intelikeynomad111 i can't say good or not good   but there are several   circuit analysis programs listed in the repos.   i counted like 7 or 8 i think09:33
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nomad111intelikey: anologue circuit analysis09:33
nomad111not logic09:33
nomad111they are all logic/digital analyis09:34
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nomad111ie gates and ic's09:34
intelikey</shrugs>09:34
nomad111lol09:34
intelikeysorry09:34
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intelikeyubuntu_  mke2fs /dev/sdd  <<< that's probably not the address.  you said sdd  so i ran with it.       and   mount /dev/sdd /mnt09:35
deathnoteoh ok......i got another machine that boots on lilo09:36
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intelikeyubuntu_   sudo all that of course.     also     fdisk -l    should show the addressing.09:36
ubuntu_it could be /dev/sda , or somthing, how do i look it up09:36
deathnoteso i wanna change the kernel to the older one when it boot..and so i change the line default=xxx in lilo.conf09:36
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ubuntu_oh fdisk -l09:36
intelikeyubuntu_ if you are going to use fdisk  you might like   cfdisk   better09:37
ubuntu_ok i try that09:37
ubuntu_a durrr09:37
deathnoteoh i forgot to run lilo after making change nvmind09:38
intelikeyubuntu_  you know fdisk/cfdisk is for making partitions.   mke2fs is for making a file system on the partition.09:38
tucoHello guys. When I run sudo update I get this: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem09:39
intelikeydeathnote heh that happens.09:39
tucoanybody knows why?09:39
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ubuntu_oh k ill try to mkefs09:39
intelikeymke2fs09:39
Jucatotuco: apt-get or Adept might have been interrupted while it was installing someting. run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" to fix it09:40
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jochu1hi, I asked on #ubuntu09:40
jochu1but09:40
deathnoteand now shits happen..it doesn't boot up now09:40
jochu1no answer09:40
intelikeyjucato you back.....   ?09:40
jochu1is there a way to check if apt-get installed verything correct?09:40
Jucatono intelikey, I'm a figment of Agent_Bob's imagination09:40
jochu1*everything09:40
intelikeyjochu1 sure.   sudo apt-get install -f09:41
intelikeyJucato :)09:41
jochu1intelikey: thnx :-) ... I was checking the manpage but I skipped reading it ... sorry!09:41
intelikeyi think i'm starting to corrupt your sense of humour Jucato09:42
ubuntu_the problem Im having is my disk isen't shouwing up09:42
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ubuntu_I'm not very good with the live cd it dosent have any system folders09:42
intelikeyJucato i meant are you back to help or just poped in for a second and gone again....09:42
JucatoI'm back to help when/if I can, but I'm not gluing my eyes to Konvi09:43
tucoit was about flash player for mozilla...i can't seem to install it properly.09:43
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ubuntu_i would use mke2fs if i knew the path09:43
intelikeyJucato ok cause i need to make rounds.    it's all yours.09:43
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ubuntu_i cant find the mount point to my sata disk09:45
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piro_tried fdisk -l ?09:46
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ubuntu_yes i just typed that in ill see what it did09:48
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deathnotehelp!!! if i made changes to my lilo.conf and it doesn't boot up because i set some things wrongly, how do i boot up now?09:48
deathnotehelp!!! if i made changes to my lilo.conf and it doesn't boot up because i set some things wrongly, how do i boot up now to revert?09:48
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labinet07hello?09:48
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deathnoteit says VFS please specify a correct root= somethingsomething..damn09:48
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piro_i used to use a livecd09:51
ubuntu_note that any time you change /ect/lilo.conf or rebuild or move a kernel image, you need to rerun lilo to rebuild the ,ap file and update LILO09:52
piro_havent used lilo in forever though09:52
deathnotei ran lilo09:52
ubuntu_*map file09:52
deathnotewhat else i need to do?09:52
deathnotei ran lilo09:52
deathnotehow to update LILO?09:53
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negxentaWhat is the arptable command to disable ARP for all IPs on the LAN except for 192.168.0.1?09:53
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deathnoteok i can get into console using the installation cd and mount the hdd09:53
deathnote!lilo09:53
ubotulilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.09:53
tucoAnnoying. Even though flashpluging-non free is installed some site are still asking me for a version 8 minimum!09:53
piro_www.2advanced.com09:53
Heavenquakelilo is nice and colorful ^^09:53
deathnoteubuntu_: how to update LILO?09:54
Jucato!flash9 | tuco09:54
ubotutuco: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash09:54
piro_thats my flash tester rofl09:54
deathnotei wonder what's wrong.. i modify the lilo.conf to default onto another kernel .. after that i ran lilo09:54
Jucatotuco: because the default flash is version 7. you have to enable backports to get version 909:54
ubuntu_deathnote: save yourself some trouble and learn grub cus thats all i know :P09:54
deathnoteand reboot..and i'm dead09:54
Heavenquake#kdevelop seems to be dead for the moment. Can I ask here instead?09:54
tucoI guess I did that Jucato09:54
Heavenquakeor should I seek out #KDE?09:54
JucatoHeavenquake: depends on what kind of question09:55
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tucoit is also possible to get it from adept too right?09:55
JucatoHeavenquake: #kdevelop is probably "dead" because it's night time/early morning for half of the world09:55
Jucatotuco: just enable the backports repository and you can just simply upgrade from flash 7 to 909:55
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HeavenquakeJucato: I want to be able to insert Code Snippets using keyboard only. I made a shortcut to open the code snippet tab, but cannot insert 'em without using the cursor, which is bad imho.09:56
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yamanneed help ====> yesterday i  did install the kde and the kubuntu desktop on my ubuntu and i lost the shutdown button in 2 pcs09:56
tucohow can I do that Jucato?09:56
unix_infidelflash 9 stable is out for nix?09:56
Jucato!backports | tuco09:56
ubotutuco: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports09:56
Jucatounix_infidel: for quite some time now09:56
ubuntu_when i do fdisk -l it lists nothing, ahhh that is crazy09:56
unix_infidelJucato: nice, but how's the performance.09:56
Jucatotuco: basically enable the edgy-backports repository in your sources.list09:56
unix_infidelflash + os x doesnt play well at all.09:56
Jucatoor dapper-backports if you're on dapper09:57
piro_ubuntu_: do sudo fdisk -l09:57
Jucatounix_infidel: so far so good. no problems here09:57
JucatoHeavenquake: ah, might be a #kde question09:57
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ubuntu_haha same thing I think i'll change some cables and bios options09:58
ubuntu_bbl09:58
yamanneed help ====> yesterday i  did install the kde and the kubuntu desktop on my ubuntu and i lost the shutdown button in 2 pcs09:58
tucohow do I get to my source list Jucato?09:58
Jucatotuco: Adept Manager -> View -> Manage Repositories09:58
piro_./etc/apt/sources.list09:59
Jucatotuco: same way you go to it to enable multiverse09:59
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tucoIt is better to do it in source list directly yes?10:00
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yamanhello need a small fav here10:00
Jucatoeither way will do10:00
yamanneed help ====> yesterday i  did install the kde and the kubuntu desktop on my ubuntu and i lost the shutdown button10:00
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Jucatowhere did you lose the shutdown button? when you're on GNOME or on KDE?10:01
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Jucatoyaman: are you still using GDM? what Ubuntu uses to login? or KDM (Kubuntu's)10:01
yamanjucato: on the kde10:02
tuconeed to be root to...forgot the command10:02
Jucatotuco: for what?10:02
yamanjucato: kde10:02
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tuconeed to be in root to add the list10:02
tucoi can't save the file otherwise10:02
Jucatoyaman: here's the thing. If you're in KDE but you used GDM to log in, you won't see a shutdown or restart option, only an End Session/Logout10:02
Jucatotuco: what are you using?10:02
yamanjucato : yeah this what happining !!! what should i do to fix this ?10:03
Jucatotuco: sudo (if you're using a command line text editor) or kdesu (if you're using Kate)10:03
tucokdesu :-)10:03
Jucatoyaman: I'm afraid there's nothing you can do. you'll still have that shutdown button if you're in GNOME and used GDM.10:04
Jucatoyaman: you can change GDM and use KDM instead, however10:04
vltHello. what's the name of the program to admin system settings ("systejm settings" in K start menu)?10:04
Jucatoyaman: if you do that, you'll have no Shutdown option when you're in GNOME and used KDM to login10:04
Jucatovlt: what do you mean?10:04
yamanjucato: mmm i think i don10:04
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tucoBut I need to be as root to be able to save the sources list Jucato. Forgot how to do that10:05
ubuntu_haha i think i messed up the cabling10:05
yamanjucato: i think i don't understand how to switch between them cause i am new user !! but thanx any way am still have the poweroff command :(10:05
vltJucato: The last entry in KDE's start button menu in Programs is called "system settings". What's the name of the process when I just want to run it standalone?10:05
Jucatovlt: systemsettings10:06
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Jucatobut I don't understand what you mean by "run it standalone"10:06
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Jucatovlt: the official name of the package is actually kde-systemsettings :)10:07
Jucatobut systemsettings is the command name10:07
ebcdBuongiorno10:07
ubuntu_installing kubuntu now ty whoever was helping me10:08
vltJucato: ok ;-)10:08
tucodamn I get this now : E: Malformed line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)10:08
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Sativa007hello, i'm searching for drivers of my ATI card, where can i find them?10:09
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deathnotei need help for lilo can somebody help10:09
Jucatotuco: what's in line 37 of your sources.list?10:09
tucoGuys how do I get into sources list in kdesu as root?10:10
tucodeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted10:10
deathnotehelppppppp after making changes to my lilo.conf and i can't boot up10:10
deathnotehow to revert10:10
Jucatohm..10:10
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Jucato!pastebin | tuco10:10
ubotutuco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:10
tucoat the end of the line...so need to remove it10:10
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Jucatotuco: please pastebin the whole sources.list?10:10
tucook sure10:11
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beromhello everybody10:11
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tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7008/10:11
KennethPHow do I upgrade my KDE 3.5.5 to 3.5.6 on Edgy? (If advisable at all?)10:13
Jucatotuco: actually, delte line 3710:13
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devin_Hey all!! Im having trouble trying to figure this out! Im trying to install ut2003 and everytime i run the installer i get mount: /dev/ is not a block device im guess it has something to do with being an out dated installer and its looking in the wrong place but im not sure how to work around it10:14
Jucatotuco: then in line 28, remove the "#"10:14
JucatoKennethP: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php10:14
tucoI know Jucato, I need to be as root. How can I go as root to do that please?10:14
Jucatokdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list10:14
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KennethPJucato: Tnx10:14
dimas__nickname dimas10:15
tucook done Jucato. So now back to square one10:16
tucoadding the backports :-)10:16
Jucatotuco: then "sudo apt-get update"10:16
Jucatotuco: and once it has updated successfully, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to update to Flash 910:16
tucobut I don't have the backports repo in there do I?10:16
Jucatotuco: line 28 and 29 are your backports repo10:17
Jucatoline 28 is the binary repo, line 29 is the source code repo10:17
Jucatoyou only need to remove the "#" at the beginning of line 2810:17
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tucoare you sure?10:17
Jucatotuco: # deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse  <--- this one10:18
Jucatoyes I'm sure10:18
mrynitany one familar with nvidia drivers for kubuntu? i have a FeForce4 MX intigrated GPU10:18
tucosudo apt-get update10:19
tucoand upgrade after found nothing!10:19
Jucatotuco: pastebin your new sources.list again please?10:19
mrynitI check on nvidia's page and that driver is not upported in the current release. the driver is under a legacy package but i cant find it on nvidia's site10:20
Jucato!nvidia | mrynit10:21
ubotumrynit: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:21
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tucohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7009/ they are yes but doesn't upgrade anything.10:21
juanma_hola10:22
Jucatotuco: you didn't remove the "#" from line 28 as I have said10:22
juanma_alguien habla espaol10:22
ubuntu_you know how ubuntu has a flashy upgrade now button, is sudo apt-get update the equivalent to that10:22
Jucato!es | juanma_10:22
ubotujuanma_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:22
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renatojuanma_>10:22
ubuntu_sorry update now *10:22
tucomate when I count from the top down to line 28 that is this line  Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review10:22
renatojuanma_ yo hablo espaol pero creo que hayan unos canales de ubuntu en espaol donde podras encontrar aiuda10:23
Jucatotuco: I already showed you the line that you need to enable.10:23
Jucato<Jucato> tuco: # deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse  <--- this one10:23
Jucatotuco: that's line 28 in the pastebin10:24
tucoahhhh ok it makes senses.10:24
tucowell just being logical here nothing else :-)10:24
ubuntu_whats the kubuntu equivalent of ubuntus flashy update now button?10:25
ubuntu_sudo apt-get update?10:25
mrynitsynaptic?10:25
ubuntu_dose the same thing right?10:25
mrynitsynaptic is a nice gui for getting packages10:25
mrynitthats what i use in debian10:26
ubuntu_well then synaptic is always running in ubuntu right?10:26
tucoNow it is working thank you for your help kind sir :-)10:26
ubuntu_because when you start up it requests updates10:26
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Jucatoubuntu_: that's just the update manager checking if there are updates available10:27
ubuntu_well nm my install work is done so I restart now10:27
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toadmanis ubuntu always so unstable???????10:28
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toadmanfuck whatever im goin back to fedora core10:29
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mrynitwhats the differance bettween unbuntu and kunbuntu? just KDE?10:30
Jucatoyes. and that difference is a lot10:30
Jucato(KDE + the default apps, except for OpenOffice)10:30
mrynitso that affects display drivers? im trying to get berly to work on a old GeForce4 MX10:31
Jucatono10:31
tucoThanks for your help Jucato. The Kubuntu community is what made ditched you know whom for this lovely OS.10:31
mrynitok, thats good10:31
yamanjucato: kde works but i can't connect by vnc with it ..y?10:31
Jucatoanything running below KDE (X, kernel, modules, etc) are common to both10:31
Jucatoyaman: sorry, no idea about vnc10:31
Jucatotuco: you're very much welcome10:32
tucoYou rock Dude ;-)10:32
piro_yaman: check into freenx10:32
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yamanpiro:thnks10:33
mrynityaman: is it a networking problem with vnc?10:33
piro_works great with low bandwidth connections, and runs through ssh so its like always avail. if you got everything setup right10:34
renatohi, anyone with experience with postfix?10:34
lu-baowah cool xD10:34
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yamanit was working on Gnome ubuntu, but with KDE it didnt10:36
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emonkeyPlease vote here:10:38
emonkeyhttp://www.dellideastorm.com/article/show/63132/Ubuntu__Kubuntu_Linux10:38
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mrynitemonkey is a bot?10:39
emonkeyno why?10:39
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mrynitnvm10:39
piro_lol10:40
piro_i heard about that10:40
emonkey:)10:40
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piro_getting dell to send out there comps with buntu10:40
emonkeyif it works, that would be great10:40
emonkeynothing to lose...sor...10:40
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tucoVoted for your thingy emonkey. Hope it helps promote Kubuntu/Ubuntu10:42
emonkeythank you :)10:43
emonkeyI hope too10:43
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tucoI mean I am very impressed with what Kubuntu does and what is capable of doing. A new computing experience far from the so called WOW experience!10:44
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yaccin!vista10:45
ubotuvista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org10:45
DeMolayhihihi10:46
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yaccin!osx10:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about osx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:46
tucoyes that one...I am trying hard to make my second half forget about it too...10:46
yaccin:D10:47
yaccin!macos10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about macos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
tucoI will convince her then we will be set and buggerware free :-)10:47
yaccintuco: just make your kubuntu look like vista ;)10:47
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tucoYuk!10:48
tucoNicer you mean ;-)10:48
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yaccinnicer is not hard :P10:48
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Tm_THrr, root. :(10:49
yaccin!root10:49
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:49
yaccin!rootirc10:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rootirc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:49
yaccinhmm10:49
Tm_Tyaccin: I wonder that same.10:50
yaccin!ircasroot10:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ircasroot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
Tm_Tyaccin: Try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
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tucoNope. guys a question...when do I make sure that every link I click opens in Fireofx and not Konqueror?10:51
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tucoanyone knows?10:54
googol!?10:54
tucohow to make sure that fireofx opens the links and not Konqueror?10:55
mrynitset browser defualt10:55
piro_download tabs mix plus helps10:55
piro_also make sure ff is defauly10:55
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tucohow can I do that Piro?10:56
terenziohi10:57
piro_edit -> preferences -> main tab -> system defaults press check now10:57
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terenzioi'm new in kubuntu's world and i can't get my internet connoction going...can anyone help me??10:58
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tucowhere is the edit key sorry?10:59
easytigeredit key?10:59
piro_edit tab in task bar at the top next to file and view10:59
piro_inside of firefox10:59
ccherretthow do you install mplayer on kubuntu?11:00
tucoaha aha obviously :-)11:00
mrynitccherrett try VLC11:00
ccherrettmrynit: I like the mplayer-plugin11:00
terenziohelp11:00
terenzioneeded11:00
tucobut when I click in some of the links from the irc chat for example, they open in Konqueror not FF11:00
ccherrettdoes vlc hava a plugin?11:00
yamancan't connect to the vncserver on the kubuntu-kde no resson .. i could b4 on Gnome ?? any help11:00
mrynitterenzio how do you connect to the tubes?11:01
ccherrettmrynit: hmm it is installing a mozilla-plugin11:01
terenziohow can i get my cel phone seen via bluetooth and use it as a modem?11:01
mrynitwtf you use your cel phone for internet access?11:02
terenziowhen i run kppp i get an error11:02
mrynitis this for a laptop?11:02
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ccherrettmrynit: if you are on the road sure11:02
abattoirterenzio: type bluetooth:/ in konqueror11:03
abattoirterenzio: and choose the appropriate service11:03
terenzioit says - /etc/resolv.conf missing11:03
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mrynitccherrett: he should have said he was on a laptop first11:03
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ccherrettoh I assumed that is what he meant11:03
ccherrettoh well11:04
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papusikha_uite11:04
terenzioare you talking about me??11:04
terenziolaptop?11:04
ccherrettyes11:04
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papusikha_yes11:04
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mrynityes11:05
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terenziosorry, i'm really new to all this...anyway yes i'm running kubuntu on my laptop with a usb bluetooth dongle and a sony z1010 cell phone11:05
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terenzioi just did what you told me to do (abattoir) but it tells me that the file doesn't exist!11:06
viola_vez11:07
googolterenzio: i could try to replicate11:07
terenzio???11:07
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googolwhat ur doing, but i hv a desktop and differnt cell phone11:07
terenziolet's try11:08
googolk wait till my update finishes11:08
googolok its done11:08
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abattoirterenzio: http://www.spiration.co.uk/post/1307 should help you11:09
abattoirterenzio: it's command-line-ish, but should still do the trick11:09
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terenziok i'll go and take a look...11:10
abattoiryou most probably have all the packages installed... just check anyways11:11
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googolterenzio: what program are you using to connect you your phone?11:11
googolto*11:11
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googolterenzio: I seggest you get a bluetooth client program, the one installed by default has a gui?11:15
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googolterenzio: or find out how the command line interface works with bluetooth11:16
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googolterenzio: if your still there ill stay on IRC for more information but I give up, since the options arnt so clear11:19
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googolfrom what I tested bluetooth dose work by default ...11:21
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googolbbl11:21
mrynitwell turn bluetooth on in the phone first11:21
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terenziogoogol:i'm TRYING to use kppp11:23
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mrynitterenzio is blue tooth turned on? inside your phone11:23
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terenzioyes bluetooth is on and if i run hcitool scan i see the MAC adress11:24
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terenzioand it's name11:25
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aliasghermanOften right clicking while on KDE opens the KDE crash handler.11:25
mrynitthats a good start11:25
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renatohi, has anybody in here experience with postfix?11:29
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googolin gnome ctr-H shows hidden folders in natulis, how do I show hidden folders in konqueror?11:33
PeSgoogol: select "show hidden files" in view menu11:34
lu-baomh kubuntu is the really first distribution and bundle what really fits "all" my needs :D nice work team :D11:34
Jucatogoogol: View menu -> Show Hidden Files. you can set  keyboard shortcut in Settings -> Configure Shortcuts11:34
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mrynitgood bye11:35
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googoloh good, that was easy11:35
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lu-baoi have 3D i have all programs running and it supports everything of my notebook perfectly i am so happy about kubuntu :)11:35
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darthdualHey all, Anyone know how to share internet connection through another ethernet interface on ubuntu11:36
lu-baoJucato, XD11:36
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PeSlu-bao: vote for Kubuntu11:36
lu-baoPeS, huh? vote? :)11:36
Jucatonext elections11:37
PeSlu-bao: yep --> Distrowatch11:37
lu-baoPeS, dont know this website but ill search for it :)11:37
lu-baohow to vote for kubuntu? :)11:38
googoli belive i was brain washed by gnome for far too long :(11:38
PeShttp://distrowatch.com/11:38
googolkde is way better11:38
lu-baoPeS, yeah but how to vote :) where do i find vote button for kubuntu :)11:38
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lu-baoPeS, sorry have problems to manage through distrowatch.com never used this site before :(11:40
Contrast83What's up, everyone?11:41
Contrast83I have a question about Feisty, hoping someone can help me...11:41
PeSlu-bao: can't find it ether, ....forget it... :)11:41
lu-baoPeS, XDDD11:41
JucatoContrast83: you might find more help about feisty in #ubuntu+111:42
Contrast83If I install from one of the Herd CD's, will I have to do a fresh install for each new Herd, and/or when the final version is released?11:42
Contrast83Thanks, jucato. I'll check there.11:42
lu-baoPeS, you know what i mean? :> i am not that stupid but i couldnt find it XD11:43
Jucatooh you don't need to do that11:43
JucatoContrast83: you just need to dist-upgrade daily :)11:43
Contrast83Cool, thanks for the info.11:43
Contrast83Peace.11:43
PeSContrast83: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade11:44
lu-baooh is there a opensource alternative similiar with weaverslave to build websites for debian / kubuntu ? :)11:44
googolhmm i wondered that exact same thing lol.. he left11:44
Jucato!quanta11:44
ubotuquanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2361 kB, installed size 5700 kB11:44
Jucato!nvu11:44
ubotunvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB11:44
lu-baoum yeah o.o"11:45
lu-baowhats the better one? *g*11:45
Jucatothose two would be the top two choices. imho, Nvu, while not being a KDE/Qt app, has better WYSIWYG capabilities11:45
lu-baoi need a "easy" editor for beginners without big html knowledge :)11:46
Jucatobut since I use WYSIWYG seldomly, I'd go for Quanta because of it's integration with KDE11:46
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lu-baoJucato, is there an easy one without needed html knowledge? ^^11:47
lu-baolike graphical editor11:47
Jucatolu-bao: Nvu would be the one11:47
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JucatoWYSIWYG = What You See Is What You Get11:47
Jucatodrag and drop graphical stuff11:47
emonkey-pm11:47
lu-baommmh that helped me out thank you Jucato :)11:48
waylandbillI prefer cms or other server side technology to wysiwyg.11:49
waylandbillwith all the different browsers it never ends up being wyg.11:49
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lu-baomh nvu looks fine and easy like advanced editor thats nice :)11:50
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jaxhow do u go about resolving dependencies problem?11:57
Jucatodepends on the problem11:58
Adydazapt to instrall11:58
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Contrast012083Does anyone know if there's a Beryl-SVN repository for Feisty yet?11:59
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jaxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7016/...for realplayer11:59
Jucato!beryl | Contrast01208311:59
ubotuContrast012083: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:59
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crubeIs there a way to change the font color of my toolbar? I have a transparent toolbar with dark desktop, and open tasks are black, minimized grey etc.12:00
kubuntu610b12:00
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Jucato!info realplayer12:01
ubotuPackage realplayer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas12:01
crubeThis beryl thing is quite cool. Runs smooth on my laptop's integrated graphic card12:01
Jucatocrube: you mean the taskbar?12:01
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crubeJucato:  yeah12:01
Jucatocrube: the colors of those follow the color of buttons set in the Color Scheme12:02
jaxjucato: but i have not installed realplayer yet12:02
crubeJucato:  Thanks.12:03
Jucatocrube: are you on dapper or edgy?12:03
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Adydasdapper sounds so much cooler..12:04
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jaxjucato: dapper12:04
Jucato!info realplayer dapper12:04
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uboturealplayer: Real Player (installer). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0.11 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB (Only available for i386)12:04
cavalloI have some problems with VPN. I can connect to pptp vpn and system get theyr DNS's but I cant ping any machine in the vpn. Why ? Any suggestions ?12:05
crubeJucato Edgy12:05
cavalloIm using pptpconfig12:05
jaxjucato: bash: !info: event not found12:05
_alioglum arnzda mslman war m la?12:05
_ali????????????????????????????????12:05
Jucatojax: no, that wasn't for you. that was for the bot12:06
_alila kime diyum ben musluman yok mu?12:06
jaxic..:012:06
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Jucato_ali: English please12:06
_aliwhy?12:06
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_aliIam e turks12:07
_ali:D12:07
abattoir!tu12:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:07
abattoir!tr12:07
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.12:07
abattoir_ali: ^^^^12:07
Jucato_ali: this is an English channel12:07
_alisensizn bepiniz amna koyaym12:07
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AdydasWICKED12:08
elbingxmms-rplay - RPlay Output Plugin for XMMS; why realplayer?12:08
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Pisik_omy name is ali12:09
Pisik_o:D12:09
Pisik_ohaw are you la?12:09
Adydaswhos la?12:09
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Adydasoh all?12:09
Pisik_oyes12:09
lu-baoali *gg*12:09
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comp08server undernet.irc.org12:10
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_alilan aq larm12:10
_alises verseniz lan12:10
_ali:D:D12:10
Jucato_ali: please speak in English12:11
lu-baolol :>12:11
_alimother fucker,12:11
Jucato!language | _ali12:11
ubotu_ali: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:11
_aliand amreki ka12:11
_aliand12:11
_aliengelend12:11
_aliend faitler12:11
lu-baoJucato, please explain me how such peoples are able to join irc? o.o"12:11
lu-baoxD12:12
Adydassadly12:12
Jucatolu-bao: I wish I knew :)12:12
Adydasthey get in12:12
lu-baothought brain is needed to use irc clients and setup connections :)12:12
lu-bao*gg*12:12
Jucatoheh... ok let's not get personal, shall we? :)12:12
elbinglu-bao, not with gui... gui makes idiots a morons exponentially12:12
lu-baoi am from germany but i give my best with english and i am gently :)12:12
Adydasits presetup for you12:13
lu-baoelbing, thats mean from you now -.-"   *loves gui but isnt idiot used gentoo before and knows about basics of linux*12:13
elbings/a/and12:13
lu-baoJucato, youre right :)12:13
elbingright... what about germany? is it cold?12:13
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lu-baoum o.o" lol what please is that for a question xD12:14
lu-baoand yeah it is actually o.o but sun is up12:14
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elbingdamn... here I'm freezing12:15
vgeonly -16 in finland12:15
elbing4.5 Spain12:15
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Adydas17 degrees here12:16
lu-baoouch :>12:16
Adydasso hot12:16
lu-bao17 degrees you call hot? Oo12:16
Adydasfor night12:16
elbingnot bad12:16
lu-baomh okay its hot *g*12:16
elbingI should live there :p12:16
lu-baoi wont xD12:16
vgei can overclock better in cold weather ;)12:16
lu-bao*loves kubuntu* x)12:16
lu-baoall runs well :> so cool first time all runs well at linux and notebook :D12:17
elbingright, is too difficult to try compile some code under 012:17
lu-baovge, lol did you ever heard about cooling sets? ;)12:17
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lu-baoi mean um without cooling set you have a big problem :) cheap ones are noisy and good ones are strong and quiet *has a cheap one* <.< XD12:18
vgei made watercooling couple years ago, but not really wanna go with the trouble again, i can manage12:18
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lu-baowont use watercooling :)12:19
lu-baofans are fine as long theyre big and slow so they dont produce high pitchy noises :)12:19
vgebut some here just puts a tube from outside into their case in winter12:19
lu-baolol XD12:19
elbingheh12:20
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lu-baookay NVU is good for me nice website editor :) thx for advertise that to me :)12:21
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lu-baowhy? :)12:22
Jucatomight not fit what you wanted12:23
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JucatoQuanta is very much manual... based on my (still limited) experience12:23
lu-baoqt? bluefish? huh? XD12:24
elbingvim + konqueror. be a man ;p12:24
vgeeclipse for all imho12:25
vgeand atleast i can say i do em for a living :)12:25
waylandbillvim works just fine :)12:25
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Jucatolu-bao: don't mind him :)12:25
elbingyeah12:25
lu-baoJucato, okay :>12:25
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Vincent_kHi all, I was thinking of installing linux on a laptop without cdrom fdd or bootable usb. Is there a way to get it installed?12:29
lu-baopackage for xine player is xine-ui right?12:30
abattoirVincent_k: has internet connection?12:30
abattoir(hopefully broadband)12:30
elbingVincent_k, are you sure you have a machine?12:30
Vincent_kyes I have internet connection12:30
abattoir!install | Vincent_k12:30
ubotuVincent_k: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues12:31
abattoirVincent_k: see which fits your needs12:31
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Vincent_kthanks will check it12:31
abattoirmostly should be netboot...12:31
abattoir!shipit | Vincent_k12:32
ubotuVincent_k: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.12:32
pointfivezerolu-bao: yes it is, xine-ui is the xine video player user interface12:32
waylandbillI've got a laptop without a bootable CD too. I put the hdd in my desktop with an adapter to use it's bootable CD.12:32
abattoirVincent_k: doh, no cdrom drive, my mistake...12:32
lu-baopointfivezero, thx :)12:32
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pointfivezero!xine-ui | lu-bao12:33
ubotulu-bao: xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-0ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 1567 kB, installed size 3512 kB12:33
pointfivezero!xine-ui12:33
Jucatokaffeine is a multimedia player that uses xine as the backend12:33
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cfraz89hi12:42
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waylandbillcfraz89: hi12:44
cfraz89hi waylandbill12:44
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Johny_!search aptitude12:50
ubotuFound: aptitude12:50
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stuart_can anyone help with raw (camera) file conversion12:54
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HeavenquakeJucato: huh?12:54
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just-this-time!fonts12:56
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer12:56
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crystufer2000What's the best program to use to create a fat 32 partition?01:20
yaccinqtparted01:21
yaccin!fat3201:21
elbingmkdosfs01:21
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse01:21
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ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter01:22
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ubotuqtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB01:22
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gtouhello, can some one help me to make a alphabetical link to an object document who begining with the same letter?01:31
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wolfeySIhello where can i get files for netboot for kubuntu?01:34
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wolfeySIso there's no netboot for kubuntu?01:40
wolfeySIonly for ubuntu?01:41
elbingwolfeySI, <ubotu> Vincent_k: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues01:43
elbingonly changes CD01:43
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serihello!01:45
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serii have a thinkpad x60s, but in kcontrol there is no "thinkpad menu". on my desktop pc instead, there is such a menu.01:46
serihow do i get that on my laptop? thank you01:46
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patrick__Hello !!!01:47
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elbingseri thinkpad-base thinkpad-source01:48
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patrick__From HK01:48
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Lynourepatrick__: Is there something we can help you with?01:49
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patrick__Is there any program I can connect KDE with Xbox 360 ?01:49
googolwindows01:50
LynoureSorry, I have no idea, I do not own an xbox.01:50
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Lynourepatrick__: have you tried searching for xbox linux on google or some other search engine?01:51
MenaIs there a nice program to enable me edit video files and cutt it and this stuff01:51
patrick__There is a feature in XP which can connect to X360 via router... But in KDE, I have no idea01:51
serielbing: thank you. it's seems i'm missing the whole laptop and batterie menu01:51
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elbing;)01:51
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googoltheres this new os called vista, seems worthwile01:52
patrick__Lynoure >>> I have searched it, but no linux program to support the feature01:52
MenaIs there a nice program to enable me edit video files and cutt it and this stuff01:52
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Lynourepatrick__: you mean XBox does not seem to support anything else than MS Windows?01:53
elbingMena look for google. maybe cinelerra help you01:54
Menaelbing, ok01:54
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Lynourepatrick__: you could try the windows program in wine or wmware01:54
googolI think mena is looking for this crazy company called "apple"01:54
patrick__>>>Lynoure  yes... the feature are U can watch WMV file, mp3 in X360 via sourcing from XP01:55
mryniti just installed kubuntu and i dont think i added a root password. is there a defualt root password or do i need to set it. if so how?01:55
mrynitsudo passwd root01:56
mrynitaye thankz01:56
serielbing: mh. no such option after installing thinkpad-base, thinkpad-source and klaptopdaemon01:56
serielbing: what am i missing?01:56
Dannilionmrynit: you don't need a root password for most things in Kubuntu- use sudo instead with your account password01:57
elbingseri, kdeutils3-laptop?01:57
serielbing: mh. there is no such packagde in edgy01:58
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patrick__About MythTV, can I watch satellite TV (Real-time, recorded) via internet without Satellite receiver.. DVB-T installed of course !01:58
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patrick__DVB-T card installed, I mean01:59
googoli can watch satellite TV vai satellite01:59
elbingseri, klaptopdaemon - battery monitoring and management for laptops using KDE01:59
elbingkmilo - laptop special keys support for KDE01:59
elbingtry apt-cache search "whatever you're looking for"02:00
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elbing(without quotes)02:00
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serielbing: i've installed kmilo and klaptopdaemon02:00
serielbing: but there is no thinkpad menu in kcontrol02:01
googolpatrick__:it would be nice though if i knew what tuner card to buy to set up a mythtv box :)02:02
patrick__googol>> I have not installed sat. receiver, restricted by government rule in China02:02
googolpatrick__:oh thats no fun02:02
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elbingseri, read this http://floatingsun.net/articles/howtos/howto-t42-ubuntu.html02:03
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googolpatrick__:I would like a TV "in" card working with linux that would be good like a TiVo box02:03
Menawhat is the deffrenr between ubuntu amd64  and just ubuntu02:04
patrick__googol >>> surf www.lunapark6.com ....it introduced a DVB-T card and how to install it... But In China....you cannot install without any permission.02:04
Menadeffrent*02:04
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wolfeySIpatrick__: china is evil communist country02:05
wolfeySI:)O02:05
wolfeySIcommunist country that opresses workers02:05
wolfeySI:)02:05
LynourewolfeySI: Maybe do not start the great politics debate here.02:06
wolfeySIokey02:06
LynourewolfeySI: see ##politics for that02:06
wolfeySIbtw tvtime rocks:)02:06
patrick__Do not mention it in chat !!! I am a Hong Kong citizen and working / living in China02:06
Jucato!offtopic02:06
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ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!02:06
wolfeySIpatrick__: sorry for you02:06
LynoureJucato: politics is even o4o, I think02:06
serielbing: :| I already checked this. on my desktop pc there is the menu and just the message  that /dev/nvram couldn't be accessed. but on my thinkpad i don't have that menu. maybe a bug in edgy? i check launchpad. thanks for your help.02:07
patrick__wolfeySI>>> it does'nt matter..... We are free in WWW02:08
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smecherunick02:10
Menawhy when i add this two lines t the repo i got an error02:13
Mena    deb http://giss.tv/~vale/ubuntu32 ./02:13
Mena    deb-src http://giss.tv/~vale/ubuntu32 ./02:13
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Menato*02:13
LynoureMena: What error?02:14
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MenaLynoure, the adept wouldnot load ad in the terminla its telling me this Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)02:14
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LynoureMena: last bit of each line looks wrong, at least to me.02:14
Menaand*02:14
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MenaLynoure, i took then from the site02:15
Menathem*02:15
LynoureMena: Then, ask them?02:15
LynoureMena: but usually lines are more line   deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted02:16
Lynoures/more line/more like02:16
LynoureMena: you can also get the packages with wget from those places and install them with dpkg   assuming that you trust the packages in the first place.02:18
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Mena_Lynoure, what was you saying bec i got a conection problem02:21
_eMaX_hi02:21
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LynoureMena_: What was the last one you got?02:22
_eMaX_ne1 here knows how to revoke a pgp key that I created years ago?02:22
Mena_ s/more line/more like....02:22
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Lynoure_eMaX_: you still have the key+passphrase or the revocation certificate?02:23
_eMaX_well I may remember the passphrase.02:23
_eMaX_the public key I can import02:23
Mena_Lynoure, is there any thing else02:24
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Lynoure_eMaX_: the private key + passphrase I meant.02:24
_eMaX_no02:24
Lynoure_eMaX_: If you do not have those or the revocation certificate, you cannot02:24
LynoureMena: you can also get the packages with wget from those places and install them with dpkg   assuming that you trust the packages in the first place.02:25
Lynoure_eMaX_: That's the very reason why good key generation howtos tell you to make a backup of your key and make a revocation cert right after creating the key and storing it in a safe place.02:26
Mena_Lynoure, i realy didint trust but i cant find any program to edit video except that is there a program supporrted with ubuntu02:26
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Jucato!kino02:26
ubotukino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.90-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1093 kB, installed size 3860 kB02:26
Mena_Jucato, thanks02:27
Mena_Lynoure, thanks02:27
LynoureMena_: If you install a package you do not trust, effectively you are running their unknown, potentially evil code, as root on your machine.02:27
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Mena_Lynoure, ohh ok good i didnt use it02:28
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Jucatoin this case, the source of the package/source code and the software's popularity has impact...02:28
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just-this-timenon-unicode is an issue in kubuntu02:29
LynoureJucato: yes, it does, but I was completely unfamiliar with g.i.s.s. or anyone called vale.02:29
just-this-timehow do I make kopete show hebrew ?02:29
just-this-timeI know ICQ is sending non-UNICODE02:30
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matthias_hi02:32
matthias_would it be a good idea to install the beta of kde4?02:32
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matthias_i was never impressed by kde, i always supported gnome02:32
matthias_but now what i see of kde 402:33
matthias_is in one word amazing02:33
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matthias_so would it be a good idea???02:33
Jucatono02:33
matthias_okay02:34
JucatoKDE 4 is currently not even in alpha yet. there is nothing to actually "see" and "use" unless you are a developer or attempting to help in the development02:34
matthias_ah02:34
matthias_okay02:34
matthias_thx02:34
Jucatofor now, all we can hold on are news articles and some screenshots02:34
Jucato(artwork  hasn't even been put in yet)02:34
matthias_i have vista tough I've participated in the beta of vista02:35
Jucatomost of the changes that have happened are under the hood02:35
guglielf!tell me about grub02:35
matthias_and im telling u that kde would lure a lot of windows users02:35
matthias_to linux02:35
Jucato!grub > guglielf02:35
Jucatomatthias_: There is still no official target date/month (or year?) for KDE 4.0 release. The most honest and most accurate answer we can give is "when it's ready." Some (unofficial) estimates are 2nd half of 2007 (Q3-Q4) or even early 2008. Please see http://dot.kde.org for KDE 4-related news and articles02:36
matthias_I only think that kde4 has to have some impressive theme's02:36
guglielfthanks Jucato, the bot already told me ;)02:36
Jucatomatthias_: stay tuned to that news site. one of the upcoming articles will be about the icon theme/color scheme/artwork02:37
matthias_ah thx02:37
matthias_wel got to go02:37
matthias_thx for the info02:37
matthias_i really apreciate that02:37
matthias_bye02:37
Jucatobye02:37
Jucatoguglielf: just making sure :)02:37
guglielfJucato: lol02:38
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incorrectis there an open source tool for editing flash?02:40
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Jucatonone that I know of02:41
incorrectall from adobe right?02:41
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Jucatoyep02:43
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incorrectah man i have to buy it :S02:43
_mv_hi all, can i ask some help? i have some strange problems with locales :(02:44
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Lynoure_mv_: Yes, this is the channel for just that kind of questions.02:45
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_mv_Lynoure: thanks a lot :D i'm italian, and i have kde in italian but ... when i use some applications (such as kate, konqueror, and so on) i'm not able to write italian special characters02:47
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Jucato_mv_: #kubuntu-it people don't know how?02:47
Jucato!it02:48
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:48
Jucatooh, lucky guess, there's a #kubuntu-it :D02:48
_mv_but when i run the same applications from konsole, it works well02:48
_mv_i know, i'm coming from #ubuntu-it :(02:48
Jucatowell, there's a #kubuntu-it too02:48
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_mv_eh, it is forwading to #ubuntu-it02:49
Jucatobah02:50
Jucatosilly :)02:50
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Lynoure_mv_: hmm, if they never had the accents right, I'd tell you to try a different font, but that is unlikely now.02:50
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_mv_Lynoure: ok, now i try to change font ... but it is so strange, i've got default fonts :\02:51
Lynoure_mv_: and from konsole you mean starting it with plain name of the program, not kdesu programname or anything?02:51
_mv_Lynoure: example: starting kate from konsole work right02:51
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_mv_mat@leprechaun:~$ kate02:52
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Lynoure_mv_: I do not think I have a solution for you right away... But konsole sessions starts by reading the bash configurations , mayby there is something there02:55
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_mv_Lynoure: thanks anyway :)) i'm trying to search on my home ^^02:56
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_mv_uhm, with alt+f2 and kdesu kate accents work fine o_O'02:57
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emanueleciao a tutti02:57
emanuelesenite sapete cm abilitare l'utente root su kubuntu?02:57
Lynoure_mv_: have you modified .bashrc? by default (at least on my system) it has nothing I could pin down as the possible cause.02:57
_mv_ciao emanuele, questo e' il canale inglese :P02:58
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_mv_ti conviene andare su #ubuntu-it ^^02:58
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emanuelethanks you :)02:58
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_mv_Lynoure: .bashrc should be empty?02:59
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Lynoure_mv_: it could also help you to compare some setting with other users. E.g. System Settings -> Regional -> Country/Region -> Locale02:59
Lynoure_mv_: I think not. But I'm on dapper and if you are on edgy things might be different (I'd still be surprised)03:00
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_mv_Lynoure: i'm on feisty :P03:00
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Lynoure_mv_: oh, then try on #ubuntu+103:01
Lynoure_mv_: feisty is not out yet, so its support is there.03:01
_mv_wow, i didn't know about ubuntu+1 :|03:01
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Lynoure_mv_: I would have told you right away if I had guessed. It could even be some obscure bug in need of fixing.03:02
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atomico80I don't know how to instsll s wifi antenna on the usb port03:03
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atomico80anybody can help me?03:03
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BluesKajHowdy all :)03:04
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_mv_Lynoure: eh, i don't think so ... i've got the same problem with stable :( probably some old configuration files on my home03:05
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slyfoxI am getting pissed off lately with Kubuntu - hibernation and supends do not work. Knetwork manager does not work on startup because Kwallet refuses to gives password or knetwork manager does not take it. Is this common  with all distors? WIll this crap be in feisty too ?03:06
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Lynoure_mv_: what do you have in those locale settings in kde? and what in /etc/environment?03:06
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_mv_!paste03:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:07
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atomico80anybody has any experience in installing devices on usb?03:08
_mv_Lynoure: mine /etc/environment: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7033/03:08
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Lynoure_mv_: and those kde locale settings?03:10
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_mv_Lynoure: ehm, i'm new to kde ... which is the file i need to paste in mine .kde/?03:11
Lynoure_mv_: I only know where they are on the GUI on dapper (see above), not which file03:12
_mv_Lynoure: oh, you mean in kcontorl ... well, language only italian, but in kcontrol accented letters are normal03:13
kzwoHello @ll03:13
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Lynoure_mv_: Then I'm out of ideas for now, sorry.03:14
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_mv_Lynoure: thanks :)03:15
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googolhow do i cheak if I have direct rendering?03:16
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googol!dri03:16
ubotudri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.03:16
Jucatogoogol: glxinfo | grep -i render03:17
googolwoo hoo i do03:17
googoli never hotught id sey this but i love intel graphics03:17
googollol03:17
JucatoI want to love them too :)03:18
googoloh they make my babies let me tell you03:18
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kzwocould one help me? I can't open an display as root, as user it works.03:18
BluesKajdon't get too excited , even my lowly onboard ATI graphics does DRI quite well , if one uses the proper binary drivers :)03:19
googoli just found out you can use a sDVO pci-e so i can get digital out03:20
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Jucatokzwo: you really can't you're not supposed to. any reason why you want to?03:21
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googoli feel safer using open intel drivers03:21
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kzwojucato, that's an interesting answer. thanks. I mounted directories from another linux distribution, at the moments I have only rights to read as root.03:24
Jucatokzwo: kdesu konqueror03:25
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kzwojucato: wow, thanks for the imediate help!03:27
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Jucato!sudo | kzwo03:27
ubotukzwo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:27
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LegoLinuxhi03:28
calxaedhi does anyone know if amarok supports mtp devices like the creative zen v+ in kubuntu edgy03:28
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Riddellcalxaed: it should do yes, but I don't think it has been tested03:28
LegoLinuxI can't activate the "compose key"03:28
Jucatocalxaed: it should, but I think there has been problems03:28
JucatoLegoLinux: I think it's the right Alt key by default?03:29
calxaedit think there are, amorok wont detect it03:29
LegoLinuxJucato: do you mean the AltGr?03:29
JucatoI there were problems with some versions of Amarok not being compiled w/ MTP support? not sure if the latest (1.4.5) has been compiled with it already03:29
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JucatoLegoLinux: if that's what it's called :)03:30
kzwojucato: can't understand the command.03:30
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Jucatokzwo: what command can't you understand?03:30
kzwoubotu, thank you.03:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thank you. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:30
Jucato!ubotu | kzwo03:30
ubotukzwo: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:30
calxaedis there a way of discovering if a particular version of amarok is built with mtp support03:30
kzwojucato: ahaa!03:31
Jucatokzwo: and !factoid calls the bot03:31
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kzwojucato, helpful!03:31
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lu-baoafter updating my server can i remove files out of var cache apt archieves ?03:36
chavolu-bao, just run apt-get autoclean it will remove the old debs03:37
lu-baochavo, ah thank you very much didnt knew that command :)03:37
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_eMaX_lynoure still there?03:38
lu-baochavo, cause its a debian sarge i686 and i typed apt-get upgrade :)03:38
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lu-baochavo, inside folder archives are still these .deb packages but can i remove them now? or does debian use it out of archieves folder ?03:41
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lu-baoor does it install them and i can remove all what is inside archives ?03:42
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chavolu-bao, you can remove them03:42
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lu-baoarchives is empty :)03:44
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jhutchinsYou could do apt-get autoclean, that would be the "correct" way to clean it up.03:46
jhutchinshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto03:46
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ShadowtesterAnyone know if Amarok will play ALAC files?03:47
chavoShadowtester, do you mean flac?03:49
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Shadowtesterno Apple Lossless Audio Codex03:49
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chavono idea03:49
Shadowtesterdifferent than FLAC I use ALAC on my IPod03:49
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Dekansi successed to compile bleu ice kwin decoration but this deco is not available in window decorations menu ...03:50
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Dekansdoes someone have an idea about this ?03:51
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chavoShadowtester, there's no support for it in amarok butthere's a decoder here http://craz.net/programs/itunes/alac.html03:53
BluesKajShadowtester, the best thing to try is to configure your Ipod in amarok devices03:54
Shadowtesterok thanks I will try03:54
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chavoDekans, where did you get the windeco frm?03:57
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Dekanschavo: kde-look.org03:58
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ramtikitikiwhat program is the best to do a virtual login from windows to linux?04:01
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ramtikitiki!ping04:02
ubotupong04:02
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chavoDekans, did you run ./configure --prefix /usr first?04:03
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Dekansnot with the prefix04:05
renatohi, I have a server which is linked to a dynamic dns, with the name of dallrmi.dyndns.org. I also have a domain registered: eudealers.com. I managed to create a CNAME that associate eudealers.com to rdallarmi.dyndns.org so rewuests for www.eudealers.com get forwarded correctly to my server. I had no luck with the mail so far, I have created an MX record at the site where I registered the domain like: eudealers.com  104:05
renatordallarmi.dyndns.org. Then I went do dyndns.org defining another mx record rdallarmi.dyndns.org 1 rdallarmi.dyndns.org. but the whole thing does not work. Can anybody help me? what do I need to do different?04:05
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ramtikitikiwhat program is the best to do a virtual login from windows to linux?04:06
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lu-baoramtikitiki, you mean via ssh?04:07
lu-baouse putty :) putty is opensource to manage servers through ssh and putty is available for windows and linux :)04:08
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ramtikitikilu-bao: it does not matter we want to use it localy04:11
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ramtikitikilu-bao: does putty allow you to make virtual connetion(with gui?)04:12
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_eMaX_anyone knows how exactly to revoke a pgp key if I have the private key and the passphrase?04:13
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chavoramtikitiki, did you look at VNC04:15
Dekanschavo: thanks it works with the /usr/ prefix04:16
Dekansand checkinstall made the installation fail04:16
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chavoyeah I didn't think KDE was set to llok in /usr/local04:16
chavolook*04:16
Lynoure_eMaX_: I was not, but now I'm back for a bit04:16
boincanyone out there tried to use 64bit with a stupid geniune intel boards onboard vid?04:17
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Lynoure_eMaX_: You found your private key? Great04:18
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Lynoure_eMaX_: e.g. http://www.hackdiary.com/archives/000042.html has step by step instructions for that04:19
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chavoramtikitiki, you can also look at no machine http://www.nomachine.com/04:20
ramtikitikichavo: what type of VNC?04:20
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chavoramtikitiki, there's a couple of vnc servers in the repos I haven't tried them myself04:22
tucoHello ppl. I need some help with kaffeine, it plays video but not the audio that goes with it. Any codec I need to download?04:22
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ramtikitikichavo:  is vnc tight compateble with other vnc's04:24
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_eMaX_Lynoure at least I found 2 private keys. Thanks for the link04:24
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chavoramtikitiki, I would assume so, but I havent tried it.04:25
ramtikitikichavo: ok thnx04:25
yettenetIs there a way to delete the keyboard shortcut of an application that has been removed (but the shortcut is still assigned to it)04:25
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tuconobody can help me with kaffeine?04:27
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jpiccolois there a way to go though an reset my networking04:28
jpiccoloDNS is not working now, only if i use a live cd04:29
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Jucatoyettenet:  System Settings -> Keyboad and Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Command Shortcuts tab04:33
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yettenetI know where to find it... it doesn't appear there though, since the app has been uninstalled04:33
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yettenetBut it's still assigned to the app04:34
yettenetTherefore I can't use that shortcut to start any other things04:34
yettenetIf you could tell me where these shortcuts are stored, I could do it for myself04:34
Jucatoyettenet: try running this command: kbuildsycoca04:35
yettenetWhat does it do?04:35
Jucatoit will refresh your database and your menus04:35
yettenetNo database available...04:35
Jucatoignore that error message04:36
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lu-baohow can i find out whats the ip of my server (rented) through putty ssh shell?04:36
lu-baointernet ip ^^04:36
yettenetAnd what now?04:36
tucoHey Jucato. Need some help with kaffeine. it doesn't play the audio.04:36
yettenetIt hasn't solved the problem yet04:36
Jucatotuco: what format?04:37
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Jucatoyettenet: still can't use that keyboard shortcut?04:37
yettenetNope04:37
Jucatoyettenet: does it popup a dialog box that says it's used somewhere else?04:37
yettenetBut I found that the shortcuts can be found at ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals04:37
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yettenetI'll give it a try04:37
yettenetIt doesn't pop up anything04:38
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yettenetIt just doesn't react04:38
Jucatowhat does it say?04:38
Jucatohm...04:38
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Jucatoyettenet: maybe it has been set for something else other than that app you uninstalled04:38
yettenetNope04:38
Jucatoyettenet: try looking into the Keyboard Shortcuts04:38
Jucatowhat's the key combo?04:38
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tucowmv so far04:39
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Jucatotuco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs04:40
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AlexandreHello friends04:41
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AlexandreI want download Kubuntu Edgy in Torrent. Some one knew the rigth place?!?!?!?04:43
Jucato!download04:43
ubotuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php04:43
yettenetHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm04:43
yettenetI found 2 entries in khotkeysrc04:43
Alexandreubotu: torrent only in DVD, i want cd04:44
Jucato!ubotu | Alexandre04:44
ubotuAlexandre: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:44
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googolHUAR!04:44
JucatoAlexandre: did you look into the links for the CD's?04:45
yettenetAnd found it! Yay, I'm great! :D04:45
AlexandreJucato: Yes, i1m on site: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php04:45
JucatoAlexandre: choose a location, then choose "Other installation options"04:46
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JucatoAlexandre: should take you to a page where you can find the .torrent for the CD's04:46
AlexandreJucato: ok, i try now, and downloading, thanks04:46
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clowniusim having some issues with Kubuntu 64 and my intel onboard video04:47
googollike what?04:48
clowniusi can get decent resolution or colour04:48
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clownius640X480 and horrid colours04:48
clowniusworked fine on 32bit04:49
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CaptainApathyis the driver 64 bit?04:49
googoloh... what kind of monitor do you have?04:49
clowniusDell 17in CRT04:49
yettenetJucato: I found the 2 entries in ~/.kde/share/config/kdehotkeysrc04:49
clowniuscheap throwaway04:49
yettenetDEleted them both, reset04:49
yettenetIt works now04:50
Jucatoyettenet: yeah I read that :)04:50
yettenet:)04:50
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Jucatoyettenet: what was it set to?04:50
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yettenetTo the shortcut which didn't work04:50
yettenet:P04:50
yettenetIt does now :)04:50
Jucatohehe04:50
yettenetAnd the problem was exactly the same I said04:50
Jucatoso it was set 2 times04:50
yettenetYup04:50
googolim running kubuntu 64 with intel onbord and I have beryl runnning..04:50
yettenetAnd the other app has been deleted04:50
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yettenetBut not the shortcut :)04:50
clowniuscould you run the live install?04:51
yettenetIf anyone has a problem like it, tell them what to do :D04:51
googoli have the intel 945g mobo04:51
clowniusmines a 96504:51
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CaptainApathygoogol: are you using a 64 bit driver?04:51
googoltheres a 64 bit driver ?? looks confused*04:51
yettenetWell, bye :P04:51
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CaptainApathygoogol: That's my assumption... I would personally doubt how well a 32 bit graphics driver would work with a 64 bit kernel..04:52
clownius*kicks himself for getting onboard video04:52
googoli hv beryl runnning no prob so..04:52
CaptainApathyclownius: I have onboard video :P04:52
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CaptainApathygoogol: dunno then04:53
googoli removed my ati graphiccs card so i could run onboard04:53
googolopen source all the way now04:53
clowniushad nothing but problems with my 965 chipset with onboard video lol04:53
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jpiccoloi am having a weird networking issue04:54
clowniusi might buy myself a cheap nvidea at this rate04:54
CaptainApathymmm real 3d acceleration on a laptop04:54
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jpiccoloi can get on the internet fine but i can go to my routers web interface04:54
jpiccoloi can ping the router also04:54
CaptainApathyjpiccolo: do you have permission to access it?04:54
jpiccoloyeah04:55
jpiccoloits my router04:55
googolclownius: have you installed the 915i package?04:55
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clownius915i package no but i may try it if it helps04:55
CaptainApathyI know my router has two different access methods.  wired+wireless w/ first password, or if you use the 2nd password, you only have internet access... not access to the other computers/the router04:55
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jpiccolomy router doesnt have that04:55
jpiccoloi am wired04:56
CaptainApathy(yeay for $30 routers)04:56
CaptainApathyhuh04:56
clowniuswhat sort of router?04:56
jpiccoloyeah04:56
jpiccolocheapo belkin04:56
CaptainApathyclownius: the cheapest one they had at walmart...04:56
CaptainApathyer... right, his...04:56
CaptainApathy>_>04:56
jpiccolono second04:56
clowniuslol04:56
CaptainApathyjpiccolo: which port are you pluged in at?  the first wired?04:56
jpiccolomyeah04:57
clowniusi had some issues with setting up a friends first Linux machine his router disliked it04:57
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jpiccoloits been fine for a year04:57
clowniusBut not a belkin :(04:57
CaptainApathyhm...04:57
CaptainApathyodd04:57
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jpiccolostarted happening after i set up vmware server04:57
tucoI have the w32 codecs already Jucato, still no sound :-(04:57
googolclownius: seach from 915resolution in adept04:58
clowniusthanks will do04:58
Jucatotuco: you installed it already?04:58
clowniusok found it ill try and install and reboot04:58
tucoit was done before04:59
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clowniustuco is this a no sound issue?04:59
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tucoyes04:59
clowniusi found for some reason edgy had pcspeaker off on a machine and i couldnt get sound out of certain things04:59
Jucatotuco: but you have video?04:59
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clowniusfor some reason kaffine was sending sound through pc speaker yet other sounds were working05:00
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tucoyes I do amigo05:02
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renatohi, I have a server which is linked to a dynamic dns, with the name of dallrmi.dyndns.org. I also have a domain registered: eudealers.com. I managed to create a CNAME that associate eudealers.com to rdallarmi.dyndns.org so rewuests for www.eudealers.com get forwarded correctly to my server. I had no luck with the mail so far, I have created an MX record at the site where I registered the domain like: eudealers.com  105:03
renatordallarmi.dyndns.org. Then I went do dyndns.org defining another mx record rdallarmi.dyndns.org 1 rdallarmi.dyndns.org. but the whole thing does not work. Can anybody help me? what do I need to do different?05:03
Jucatotuco: might be the file... not really sure... since you have video already...05:04
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tucostrange really...or do I have to use a different player?05:05
eeos_hi there.05:05
tucoall files I played do the same...i tried the same files in windows (yuk yuk yuk) and they work.05:06
clowniusvery odd05:06
Jucatonot really sure what else to do... try installing mplayer... :(05:06
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renatomine must be a scary question05:08
clowniusgoogol thanks for the help i can move back onto the 64bit computer now its not horrible looking anymore05:08
tucoyou giving up Jucato! Ah dude ;-)05:08
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eeos_I need to monitor my broadband connection for a period of time and send the data to our provider. Is there a tool in kubuntu to monitor the the netwrok connection on a long time?05:09
eeos_and produce average values, and variance?05:09
Gazzahello, i have bought a microphone which is very quiet, and i have set all the sliders i know of to maximum. Is there any way of boosting the mic?05:10
Jucatotuco: 12:10 AM... a man has limits...05:10
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tucoyou are not a man, you are a bot with improved capabilities! :-)05:11
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googollol i actually helped sombody thats a first05:12
clowniushehe happens to us all05:12
clowniusjust need a problem you had before05:12
clowniusWeird that i didnt have the same problem on 32 bit though05:13
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_eMaX_Lynoure still there?05:16
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_eMaX_ne1 how can I obtain a validated signature for my pgp key so that in email applications recipients do not receive the message "this message has a digital signature, but it was not validated"05:17
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method|what can i use to view microsoft visio files in linux?05:24
Heavenquakehmm.. How do I make my computer connect to wifi automatically on startup?05:25
Jucatomethod|: Kivio or Dia05:25
Jucato!kivio05:25
ubotukivio: a flowcharting program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 543 kB, installed size 1784 kB05:25
Jucato!dia05:25
ubotudia: Diagram editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95.0-4ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 528 kB05:25
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tucook some work some don't...funny05:27
troxor_eMaX_: don't the recipients have to sign your key with theirs to completely validate it to them?05:27
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Gazzahow do i boost the input of my mic ?05:27
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abattoirGazza: tried fiddling around in kmix?05:29
_eMaX_well I just thought of that stupid outlook web mail that we have in our company05:29
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Gazzaabattoir: yes05:30
Gazzaabattoir: i've set the +20db on as well05:30
abattoirGazza: aah, then i don't know of any other way, sorry05:31
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space_ninjais kubuntu better than unbuntu?05:32
googolyes05:32
Jucato!better05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about better - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
googol!ftw05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ftw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
Johny_How Can i Check names of all the system accounts by a command from shell?05:34
abattoirJohny_: users ?05:35
abattoiroh, wait, that only shows currently logged in users05:35
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Johny_abattoir: yeah, just wanted to write that -:)05:35
abattoiroh good :)05:36
space_ninjais kubuntu the best dist with kde?05:36
Johny_space_ninja: www.ditrowatch.com05:36
Jucatospace_ninja: "best" is very subjective. "best" is what works for the person05:36
Johny_space_ninja: sorry ---> www.distrowatch.com05:37
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hyper_chabattoir: do you know how I can setup a folder in samba that can be accessed only by some users?05:39
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space_ninjaI hade a dist with apt-get system, but I could't get the qt librarys properly. What should I type to get the qt4 librarys correctly?05:39
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abattoir!samba | hyper_ch05:41
ubotuhyper_ch: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:41
Jucatospace_ninja: what are you trying to do?05:41
[R] eaperhelp!!! my ati card doesn't work right :( http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4847/atix1600qt6.jpg05:41
abattoirhyper_ch: been through that?05:41
hyper_chabattoir: well, I have samba up an running... and my roommates can access all my shared folders... but I want to create individual folders for them to access.. where they have write access :)05:41
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space_ninjawell I was trying to qmake -project but it got all f-up, and I got sick and tired of packages and shit beacouse I don't know what to look for05:42
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space_ninjaand do05:42
space_ninjathere are like thousands of qt packages but I don't which one to pick05:43
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slow-motionhalo05:43
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dum3hi05:43
slow-motion+l05:43
space_ninjaand when I install one, I have no control over where they are and what has been done05:43
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space_ninjaI'm going CRAZY :)05:44
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space_ninjathat's what I like windows, the keep everything the program needs in one directory05:45
space_ninjay05:45
dum3_hi05:46
dum3_annybody here?05:46
Jucatospace_ninja: afaik, you don't need to actually install Qt 4 to be able to use it. there was a guide on how to do that. can't remember where05:46
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space_ninjaah, well I'm installing kubuntu now, we'll see05:48
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u0441509HOla05:51
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bonbonthejonwhere can i post a bug report for feisty05:59
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Jucato!bugs05:59
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots05:59
Jucato!feisty | bonbonthejon05:59
ubotubonbonthejon: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+105:59
Jucatobonbonthejon: better ask the gusy in #ubuntu+1 too06:00
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ScarFreewillis there is universal/very much used virtual login server app for linux that allows clients to run with gui?06:05
ScarFreewilleg. vnc06:05
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ScarFreewillbut what is used the most? of stuff like that...06:06
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Heavenquakewhy does kubuntu ignore my .xsession?06:07
SolidSourceLooking for a MediaMonkey or Advance MP3 Catalog linux alternative, anyone have any suggestions?06:07
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gdiebelSolidSource: I find amarok to handle all my music needs. amarok.kde.org or check out #amarok06:08
_eMaX_ne1 here uses pgp w/ evolution?06:08
SolidSourcegdiebel: Amarok doesn't do what i need and the ID3 tagger doesn't work all that well in downloading from online databases06:09
gdiebelonline db such as?06:09
gdiebelamarok includes musicbrainz06:09
_eMaX_hmm. "When people ask the question "Will Evolution change Microsoft?" I feel obligated to say that evolution has theorically changed pond scum into human beings, but the downside is that it took millions of years."06:10
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SolidSourcegdiebel: yes I know of musicbrainz (though its not a very complete database) Amarok has issues connecting to them06:13
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SolidSourcegdiebel: not to mention in amarok it only allows you to download info for individual songs rather than albums at time06:14
renatohi, is there a way in conqueror toset up a default view (details) when I am looking at the filesystem?06:14
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yettenetThe only method I know is to overwrite the existing filebrowser view06:16
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yettenetI have asked this question some days ago as well06:16
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SolidSourcerenato: yes, you basically set it up in the one window and then go to settings >> "save 'view profile'06:16
gdiebelSolidSource: easytag for more advanced tagging needs06:18
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SolidSourcegdiebel: hmm that just might work and FreeDB is one of my favorite databases06:22
gdiebelSolidSource: alas it uses gtk :)06:22
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pfeinhow can I install edgy next (ie, different partition) to dapper w/o booting from CD?06:22
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Venonawhats the dev channel for kubuntu ?06:26
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robertoita?06:27
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stamenhi06:27
stamenwho can help to set up NAT network06:27
stamenand to make it work06:27
[GuS] Google for sure stamen  :)06:28
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xyverzstamen - take a look at Firestarter06:28
xyverzit'll help you with your firewalling.06:28
stamen[GuS] : yesss, its easy to say06:29
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pfeinGoogle: It's smarter than you are.  And probably better looking.06:29
stamenon non graphical firestarter can't help me06:29
[GuS] :)06:29
[GuS] stamen, read about IPTABLES06:29
stamen[GuS] : but I wan't help from you06:29
pfeinGoogle: It will steal your girlfriend in the night.06:29
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[GuS] i not going to help you stamen anyway.. because you bave TO MUCH info on the web for that06:30
[GuS] :)06:30
stamen[GuS] : all06:30
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ApathyManWhat's a good Calendar programming?06:30
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ApathyManer.... program06:30
stamenyes only google can help, the other are too lazy to help06:30
Dr_willisto do what?06:30
ApathyManto keep track of apointments and alert me and what not06:31
[GuS] stamen, you are... nobody will do it for you.. you must search and learn :)06:31
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Dr_willislook for pim programs i guess06:31
[GuS] after you read, you will learn a lot06:31
stamen[GuS] : this not the only way06:31
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stamenotherwise for what is this channel06:31
Dr_willis'use the force luke'06:31
[GuS] if you really want to learn, it is stamen .. because  you are going to use your brain06:31
[GuS] and not us for you06:31
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[GuS] stamen, for doubs06:32
[GuS] and problemas about the OS06:32
[GuS] problems*06:32
[GuS] lol Dr_willis06:32
stamenthank you for the help, you help me a lot06:32
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[GuS] Dr_willis, he want to know how to configure a NAT nework06:33
Dr_willisip-masquerading-howto - has full details on that.06:33
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Dr_willisI belive.06:33
stamen[GuS] : get linux to have a headache, and do something search google, to make it on the fast way06:33
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[GuS] stamen, i am admin. :)06:35
[GuS] and professor of the Univ.. so what are you saying?06:35
[GuS] :P06:35
[GuS] th best way to learn... is to searh yourselft for info06:35
[GuS] and read.. and practice....06:35
Dr_willishttp://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html    gives details on setting up NAT with webmin.06:35
Dr_williswebmin is so handy.. and so hated.. sadly.06:35
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stamen[GuS] : but this is very swall method06:36
[GuS] here we will help you after you did...06:36
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stamenbut I did it on half06:36
stamenbut can't finish it06:36
[GuS] bah..06:36
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Dr_willishttp://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-configure-network-address-translation-or-nat/           - gives a 4 line script to set up NAT also.06:36
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stamenDr_willis: 10x06:37
Dr_willisthat was the #2 hit on google.06:37
Dr_willisof course i advise reading the ip-masquerading howto - to understand WHAT those commands are doing.06:37
Dr_willisjust expecting 'magic commands' to work.. without knowing whats going on = the windows way06:38
[GuS] Dr_willis, some people wants stuff so easy...06:38
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fdoving.. so what makes ksoftirqd/0 use ~90% cpu.. anyone seen that before?06:38
[GuS] like win way...06:38
[GuS] hahah Dr_willis06:38
[GuS] yeah...06:38
Dr_willisyou dont even WANT to get me started on the fighting ive been doing with windows this week06:38
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[GuS] that whats MS does... brings this kind of users :P06:39
[GuS] "hey.. i want all in the palm of my hand now"06:39
clowniusugh i still have a windoze machine in the house and my cleron 700 runs better than it does on a 1.8Ghz celeron06:39
Heavenquakemy .xsession suddenly stopped working after a reboot caused by beryl crashing... now my kubuntu/kde/kdm simply ignores .xsession & .xinitrc completely...06:40
[GuS] you  should ask that in #beryl Heavenquake ?06:40
HeavenquakeShould I? .xsession usually has nothing to do with beryl...06:40
[GuS] but you use beryl06:41
[GuS] or not?06:41
[GuS] so... has to do with it06:41
Heavenquakei use beryl as a window manager. But beryl does not affect .xsession...06:41
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Dr_willis.xsession is 'normally' read by the startx scripts, or by a special KDM/GDM entry.    but can be overridden if other files are found06:43
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Dr_willislike .xinitrc (i think)06:43
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Heavenquake.xsession and .xinitrc is identical.06:43
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Dr_willisthey can be06:43
HeavenquakeI made them be06:43
Dr_willisi thought kdm and gdm ignored both of them.06:44
Dr_willisunless there was a desktop entry that loaded them. (ive seen some disrtos do this)06:44
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Heavenquakethey don't. On my laptop i run openbox with pypanel using .xsession, and that's gdm. before that, i did it on kubuntu, with kdm.06:45
Dr_willistheres an openbox entry in the gdm menus?06:45
Heavenquakealso. But i made it start via the .xsession, instead of choosing openbox. That would just lead to openbox starting without pypanel06:45
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Dr_willisso there was a specific '.xsession' entry in the gdm session menus then. (which could have any name)06:46
Dr_willisIve made all sorts of fun session items. :) one ran the C64 emulator fullscreen.06:46
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Heavenquakei don't know what it is in english. but something like "predefined" or "custom defined" i would think it could be translated to06:47
SolidSourcegdiebel: ok, easytag sucks...it doesn't maintain a database, nor does it allow for complete album ID3 tagging06:47
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Dr_willis'Custome/User Defined" sounds like  good name for the entry to use the .xsession or .xinitrc06:50
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Heavenquakeyee06:51
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Heavenquake*yes06:51
SolidSourceok, anyone else have any suggestions for a MediaMonkey or Advanced MP3 Catalog alternative? can't find nothing that allows me to do what those can06:51
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Heavenquakebut that one is not in kdm. Theres default, and then the list of available DE's/WM's.06:51
Heavenquakei just had it default, and it ran .xsession smoothly. until now, at least06:52
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olaf-t-hunterhi all whats the default password for root if i boot from kubuntu cd?06:55
Chousukethere is none06:55
clowniusdont need one06:55
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olaf-t-hunterwhen i type su it asks for password06:56
Chousukedon't type su06:57
Chousukeuse sudo06:57
Chousuke!rootsudo06:57
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:57
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tjansenwhy do you want to use su06:57
olaf-t-hunteri cant run sudo cd /mnt/win06:57
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rayluwhy would you sudo cd?06:57
Chousukeyou wouldn't06:57
Chousukeit's useless06:57
olaf-t-hunterbecause i dont have permission to access the folder06:57
Chousukeget a root shell with sudo -i06:57
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pulaskihello06:58
olaf-t-hunterahh that could work Chousuke: thanks06:58
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pulaskiusing my kubuntu 6-10 edgy's adept or apt-get install to grab gtk-gnutella I get the following error:07:00
olaf-t-huntercool that worked07:00
pulaskiemacs-snapshot emacs-snapshot emacs21 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-package-install line 30, <TSORT> line 4.07:01
pulaskiI tried it a couple times with no change07:01
pulaskican anyone offer a suggestion to get his done right?07:01
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pulaskihere's another piece of the message:07:02
pulaskidpkg: error processing semantic (--configure):07:03
pulaskiubprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 107:03
pulaskithats about it.07:03
pulaskiis there a special apt-get install --configure option I can use that might help?07:04
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pulaskiI'd appreciate any advice.07:05
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clowniusgot me stumped soz07:05
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pulaskiclownius?07:06
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Admiral_Chicagopulaski: sudo dpkg --configure -a07:06
pulaskigood07:06
pulaskithanks Admiral_Chicago, I'll try it07:06
pulaskishould I do it after the install , such as it is, finnishes?07:07
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pablohola07:07
pabloalguien que hable espaol07:07
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Admiral_Chicago!es | pablo07:08
ubotupablo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:08
pablogracias07:08
pulaskihmmm07:09
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pulaskiI appreciate your advice Admiral_Chicago but I seem to continue this error after I issue the udo dpkg --configure -a as you suggested.07:11
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pulaskifor example, here's what's returned after I execute that dpkg command you suggested:07:12
pulaskiemacs-package-install: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/ede emacs-snapshot emacs-snapshot07:12
Admiral_Chicagohmm.07:13
pulaskiemacs-snapshot emacs21 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-package-install line 30, <TSORT> line 4.07:13
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pulaskidpkg: error processing semantic (--configure):07:14
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pulaskisubprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 107:14
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pulaskisubprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: semantic07:16
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buzd'oh, no kde 3.80.3 for feisty?07:16
pulaskithats the last of the error message Admiral_Chicago.07:17
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pulaskiI wonder if my emacs21 is messing this install up?07:17
Dr_willis3.99999999999999.2 :)07:18
pulaskiI don't know what emacs has to do with it.  Perhaps if I  removed emacs21 then tried to grap gnutella again.  Do you think that might help Admiral_Chicago?07:18
_eMaX_re07:19
_eMaX_how can I tell thunderbird to start gpg on .asc files?07:19
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pulaskihmmmm, very strange, the gtk-gnutella client sarted up ok07:20
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pulaskiAdmiral_Chicago, Thanks again for the tip.  I'll play around with gtk-gnutella.  Who knows, perhaps it will work anyway.  Thanks again.07:21
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mjrclarkhow could one use/obtain a previous kernel to use with a current release?07:23
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Dr_willisHmm.. could go hardcore an duse the source07:24
Dr_willisor if they are packaged versions you want. you can tell apt i THINK to install older versions07:25
ScarFreewilldo you first have to allow .htaccess on a server or is it on by default?07:26
mjrclarkScarFreewill after installing apache2 with apt my website was automatically viewable globally if that is what you mean.07:27
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ScarFreewilli'm runing myne localy only atm...07:27
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ScarFreewilli mean with having a file in a dir with the name .htaccess that allows sertan ppl to pass07:28
ScarFreewillit does not work or i don't know how to make it work...07:29
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ScarFreewilldo you know what handels .htaccess? xhtml/apache?07:31
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fdovingScarFreewill: apache.07:31
ScarFreewillmust be PURE TEXT or ASCII files, maybe its my encoding?07:31
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ScarFreewillwhat does kate save in? udf-8 is that pure text?07:32
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Assiderr07:35
Assidsomething wrong with kubuntu 6.10 edgy07:35
Assidubuntu 6.06 lts works but kubuntu doesnt ?!?!?!07:35
Dr_williscare to be a little clearer as to whats not working...........07:35
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Assidno root file system07:36
Assidafter formatting.. time to mount the partitions.. the default is /media/hda1 which i changed to /07:36
Assidbut still no help07:36
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eihnatAssid: that happened after fresh install?07:39
yettenetIs there a way to display Amarok controls on the desktop?07:39
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eihnatyettenet: thru widgets (superkaramba)07:40
yettenetThanks07:40
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mjrclarkwhich packages do I want to install a previous kernel version- images, headers, or something else?07:40
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eihnatyettenet: u can also add applet to panel i think.07:40
clowniusy downgrade?07:41
caris_mereMy external harddrive only gives permission to the user who is first logged into. How can I change it so all can use it when plugged (USB) in?07:41
yettenetMy panel is full07:41
Assideihnat: fresh install. yes07:41
yettenetI don't want to add an applet :D07:41
Assidapparently.. if i manually edit the partitions.. it dont work07:41
Assidi have to let it do automatic07:41
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eihnatcaris_mere: change settings in /etc/fstab07:41
yettenetubotu: Konfabulator07:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konfabulator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:42
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yettenetDamn :P07:42
yettenetWhat the heck is Konfabulator?07:42
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mjrclarkclownius; my mobo/cpu has aorken acpi thing I think, so versions greater tahn 2.6.17 or so mean no fan ever!07:42
eihnatAssid: did u setup partitions properly on installing?07:42
Assidyes07:42
clowniusouch!07:42
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Assideven tried putting a label.. but manual just barfs07:43
Assidautmatic works07:43
Assidi hope 6.10 isnt as buggy07:43
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caris_mereeihnat: I don't see anything in my fstab about my external drive07:43
Assidthe rest of it atleast07:43
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eihnatcaris_mere: u'll have to add those settings07:44
fdovingyou should not add removable devices to /etc/fstab07:44
fdovingthat's oldfashioned.07:44
fdoving:)07:44
Dr_willisBah!07:44
caris_mereeihnat: I don't know what to add07:44
Dr_willisgiven how screwy the auto-mounting stuff has beel getting lately....07:44
eihnatwell. yes, but if he wants' it that way. ;)07:44
fdovingwhat's broken about it?07:44
[GuS] caris_mere, you could manage hal on KDE too for USB devices.07:44
clowniusmjrclark i install the lot, reboot , esc into grub to choose the correct kernel then remove anything looking like the old kwernel once im logged in07:45
fdovingmy storage devices automounts every time.07:45
caris_merefdoving: my wife used the computer first (logged in first) and so I can't use the external drive.  Only she has permission07:45
clowniusyou may save some space and get away with less but i find it easier to have the lot07:45
[GuS] caris_mere, you have another user then?07:46
caris_mereGuS: yes, me and my wife07:46
eihnatcaris_mere: if u change permissions?07:46
[GuS] you should add your user to the group of your wife user...07:46
[GuS] to have same permission as she07:46
eihnatand of course be in same group07:46
[GuS] usually the id is 100007:46
caris_mereeihnat: I tried yesterday, and couldn't get it to work07:46
eihnat1st step would  be to be in same group07:47
[GuS] (using you wife user to add it)07:47
caris_mereI should put them in the same primary group?07:47
[GuS] since she has sudo access07:47
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[GuS] caris_mere, same groups as your wife user.. example, if your wife user is: Lisa, then the gorup will be Lisa07:48
[GuS] you user should be under lisa group07:48
[GuS] or belong to it07:48
eihnat[GuS] : having wife as sudo not good idea. lol. women screw it all. :p07:48
[GuS] haha eihnat ... nah07:49
caris_mereI have her under secondary groups in my profile07:49
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[GuS] but in fact she has sudo...07:49
[GuS] caris_mere, ?07:49
fdoving[GuS] : that won't work, as pmount mounts with root as the group, and user 'lisa'07:49
fdovingfor fat devices.. anyway.07:49
caris_mereI'm getting confused now07:49
fdovingi use ext3 on the devices i share.. so it's not a problem.07:49
fdovingfor me..07:50
The_Machineanyone here know of a pcanywhere viewer for linux?  (free)07:50
caris_meremy external drive is FAT3207:50
fdovingthat's the problem.07:50
[GuS] i have no problem with that fdoving ...07:50
caris_merefdoving: I want to use it for linux and windows07:50
fdoving[GuS] : do you use pmount to mount the devices?07:50
eihnatfdoving: i have one FAT32,and user and group are same07:51
fdoving[GuS] : do you have fstab entries for those?07:51
eihnatno root07:51
fdovingeihnat: with fstab entries?07:51
eihnatwhat is that?07:51
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fdovingeihnat: lines in /etc/fstab for that device?07:51
[GuS] when i have to mount fat32 or ntfs... i always use fstab..07:51
[GuS] simple mount07:51
fdovingwith fstab the options can vary.07:52
[GuS] or USB sticks only with hal07:52
fdovingpmount uses rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower, where uid= the uid of the user mounting.07:52
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eihnatfdoving: dont have external devices in fstab07:53
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fdovingeihnat: ok. then i don't understand anything. what options are your mounts mounted with?07:54
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eihnatlol, dunno actually. it was automounted. :)07:54
fdoving'mount' in a konsole will tell you, or cat /media/.hal-mtab07:55
eihnatis there way to find it?07:55
caris_mereso, have we figure a way to fix my problem?  :-)07:55
eihnatops07:55
eihnat  /dev/sdb1 on /media/SEAGATE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)07:55
fdovingyou have gid=, that helps.07:56
eihnatlol. konw now. :)07:56
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caris_mereis there a way to fix my drive problem?07:58
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crowbarHey.  I just installed kubuntu-desktop and i'm trying to get kde set up the way i want.  I have an external panel added but i can't seem to change the settings for the new one.  only the orignal kicker panel.07:58
Assidbah07:58
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crowbartrying to get the external panel to span both my screens.07:58
Assidnow its stuck in installing 32_gnome_power_manager07:59
Assidor whatever07:59
Assidstuck there since a while now07:59
caris_merefdoving: What woulld be easiest to make my drive work? My wife doesn't need access to it, if that helps.07:59
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Assiderr.. if i load up ubuntu 6.06.. is there a way i can update it to kubuntu latest?07:59
clowniusassid yes08:00
fdovingcaris_mere: she doesn't need access to any pluggable usb-things?08:00
clowniusill just find the link for you wont be a sec08:00
Assidis ubuntu 6.06lts and kubuntu 6.06lts the same thing except for kde?08:00
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fdovingAssid: yes.08:00
clowniusassid almost yes08:00
Assiddammit!08:01
caris_merefdoving: my mouse, but that's all08:01
clowniusassid whats the problem?08:01
fdovingcaris_mere: the doesn't need any usb storage devices?08:01
Assidi shoulda just stuck to ubuntu 6.06 and did that then08:01
makka2_Hi people...I wanted to know if anyone is ableto tell me a dwg reader for linux08:01
caris_merefdoving: no08:01
fdovingcaris_mere: s/the/she08:01
Assidclownius: its stuck in installing 32_gnome_power_manager08:01
Assidbeen 5 mins or more now08:01
weedar_Hey guys, I need to remove a module for a webcam, seems I installed the wrong one. But rmmod complains that the module is in use08:01
weedar_what do I do? :)08:01
clowniusassid its doing nothing?08:01
Assidweedar: modprobe -r08:02
Assidnope.. i dont think so08:02
_eMaX_ne1 here uses evolution as mail client?08:02
fdovingcaris_mere: ok. remove her from the plugdev group, that way she can't mount the devices. 'sudo deluser jenny plugdev' if jenny were here username.08:02
Assidthe LED on the cabinet is broke.... and top shows xorg using the highest resources08:02
caris_merefdoving: ok thanks08:03
fdovingweedar_: it usually doesn't matter if you just leave it in, even if it was the wrong module for your webcam.08:03
fdoving_eMaX_: i guess more people in #ubuntu use evolution.08:03
_eMaX_har08:03
caris_merefdoving: I still can't access the drive, do I need to restart or something?08:03
clowniusassid upgrade instruction are partway down this page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php08:04
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fdovingcaris_mere: you must re-mount it. unplug it and plug it back in.08:04
clowniusas to the other problem im a little lost lol08:04
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weedar_fdoving: okay, good to know :)08:05
Assidclownius: thats if i am using 6.06 kubuntu08:05
Assidwhat if im using ubuntu08:05
Assidsame apt sources?08:05
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clowniusassid one sec but i think its the same08:06
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feindbildhi ^^08:06
fdovingAssid: same apt sources. yes.08:06
AssidDoH08:06
Aluminare there any apps out there that can turn a raster/bitmap graphic into a vector graphic?08:06
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Assidwaste more time08:06
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Assidgod doesnt like me08:06
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feindbilddoes kubuntu work with a vanilla kernel?08:07
caris_merefdoving: thanks for the help08:07
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Aluminlike for example, turn a JPEG into an SVG08:07
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fdovingcaris_mere: no problem. there are more elegant ways of making it work for both of you, but it's more work.08:07
feindbildAlumin: potrace08:07
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caris_merefdoving: I figured, but I just need it to work08:08
cinekhi08:08
feindbildAlumin: inkscape even has a potrace frontend08:08
cineki'm new at ubuntu & kubuntu :D08:08
Aluminfeindbild: thanks ... btw I can't think of a reason why a vanilla kernel wouldn't work08:08
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cineki have noob question08:09
cineki know where terminal is in ubuntu, but where it is in Kubuntu?08:09
buzits called konsole08:09
cinekok i see now08:09
cinekthanks08:09
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AluminK -> System -> Konsole08:09
feindbildAlumin: well ... you can forget about using a vannilla kernel in SuSe for example .... I'ts the one requirement before I waste one more time thinking about evaluating kubuntu =P08:09
clowniusassid i cant find how but id guess similar.  i havent used ubuntu since 5.1008:10
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feindbildcinek: alt+f2 -> konsole08:10
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cinek:)08:10
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yettenetDamn, subtlecontrol doesn't work :(08:11
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_eMaX_anyone knows how to make thunderbird/enigmail save a decrypted message? I see a menu option for that, but if I do it, it tells me "no decrypted message to save" even if I have selected a message that was decrypted08:13
clowniusalumin is gimp a possibility?08:13
Aluminclownius: I dunno, is it?  :)08:14
AluminI'm going to check out this potrace when I get home, looks like it's designed for the job08:14
clowniussoz i just upgraded to 64bit so ive lost half my notes and programs08:14
Aluminunfortunately I don't have the graphic in question with me, I'm at work and the idea just popped into my head08:14
AluminI didn't think GIMP did vector graphics08:15
clowniusim checking now08:15
ollie_hi people08:15
ollie_i cant get beryl to work08:15
ollie_:(08:15
fdoving!beryl08:15
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:15
ollie_effects eh08:15
ollie_catch ya there08:16
ollie_or not..08:16
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cinekoh my god what a fast OS ;O08:17
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ceckohi boys and girls! please how do i change subtitle size in KAFFEINE?08:17
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dettois there a CLI wireless connection manager?08:17
cinekanother noob question: is there 'gedit' command in kubuntu, like ubuntu?08:18
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ceckocinek: use kate -- a gr8 app08:19
fdovingcecko: kaffine -> settings -> xine configuration options (or something like that) -> subtitles (in the list to the left)08:19
clowniusalumin your right it doesnt08:20
ceckofdoving: thx, i wouldnt really look for it there, but otherwise kaffeine is my favorite app together with kate08:20
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clowniusalumin try autotace08:21
Aluminclownius: thanks, will check that out too08:21
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cinekcecko: it works, thanks08:21
ricmikHello! I'm using Kubuntu on a laptop.. Is there any way I can set the speed on the processor (centrino)? I can't find any tool in KDE?08:22
ricmikAnd the CPU is probably set to max... alot of noise here08:22
clowniustheres also a gimp svg plugin so that may help08:22
Heavenquakewhere can I ask questions about Istanbul?08:23
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fdovingdetto: id's recommend reading /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz08:23
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AluminHeavenquake: the desktop recording software?08:29
prasohello08:29
HeavenquakeAlumin:  yes08:29
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AluminHeavenquake: I guess if the home page doesn't specify a place, this is as good as any...maybe ##linux08:30
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HeavenquakeAlumin: are you able to help?08:31
AluminHeavenquake: well, that depends on what your question is, doesn't it?08:31
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ricmikany ideas for a good file manager for Kubuntu? I would like a file manager that shows thumbnails of images and stuff..08:32
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Aluminricmik: other than Konqueror?08:32
HeavenquakeAlumin: got point there. When I run Istanbul, i get an error http://pastebin.ca/36799608:32
ricmikAlumin: yup08:32
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Aluminricmik: are you aware that Konqueror does extensive thumbnailing?08:33
AluminI used to use xfe, but not sure if that does thumbnails08:33
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AluminHeavenquake: just FYI, you have a python problem, not an Istanbul problem per se08:34
Heavenquakeoh08:34
ricmikAlumin: hmm.. can it show information from IDV3 and Meta-tags in list view?08:34
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AluminHeavenquake: you need to install the python "gconf" module08:35
Aluminricmik: I don't know...I suspect not08:36
intelikeyhowto wget every link in a webpage ?08:36
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BlackhexHello, maybe this is not kubuntu related but I experience this only there. Sometimes when I'm using kmail to send mails sending gets stucked until reboot. After reboot it works. I can get any error message from console, where should I look for logs of kmail?08:36
HeavenquakeAlumin: I can't seem to find the package08:37
Aluminyeah, I couldn't either08:38
Aluminhow did you get Istanbul?08:38
HeavenquakeAlumin: aptitude install08:38
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AluminHeavenquake: looks like the package may be broken, it should have installed any necessary packages08:39
BlackhexIt may be connected with spamfilter I guess.08:39
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rodrigoae galera08:40
rodrigoinstalei meu KDE agora08:40
Aluminif you're feeling saucy, you can "apt-cache show istanbul", look at the dependency list, and verify that they're all installed08:40
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Aluminespecially anything referencing python and/or gconf08:40
rodrigoalguem pode me ajudar a configurar a desktop?08:40
HeavenquakeAlumin: not the first time I experience broken packages, so that might be the source08:40
intelikeyBlackhex /var/log/mail/   might be reveiling   also /var/log/messages  could be forth comming with pertanant information.    syslog or dmesg also in the same dir.  depending on the actual cause.08:40
Blackhexvar/log/message is empty checking /var/log/mail....08:40
Aluminrodrigo: tal vez en #ubuntu-es ?08:41
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Blackhex/var/log/mail is empty /var/log/message says nothing about kmail or mail generally08:41
ricmikAlumin: do you know if Konqueror has support for showing thumbnails of RAW-images?08:41
Aluminricmik: no, I don't know08:42
ricmikok08:42
AluminI don't think I have any of those to test with08:42
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Blackhexricmik: there is an extra package to image fileformats preview but I don't know if it supports raw08:42
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ricmikBlackhex: do you remember the name of it?08:46
Blackhexchecing repository...08:47
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bxnphi everybody08:47
bxnpguys i need some help08:47
bxnpjust upgrade from dapper to edgy but, i have a little dependency problem08:47
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HeavenquakeAlumin: I asked in python and found out the obvious: aptitude install python-gconf - that solved it. Now I just have to figure out how to make it record..08:48
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intelikeyeeek   HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden     someone know how to get around this  (wget)  ?08:48
AluminHeavenquake: I would open a bug against the istanbul package if I were you08:48
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Aluminthat dependency should have been installed during the istanbul dep resolution process08:49
HeavenquakeAlumin: i never did that before. How to?08:49
intelikeybxnp uninstall what is depending on those things.  then install what you want reinstalled.08:49
Blackhexricmik: ah I just confuse it with something else, sorry08:49
bxnpyes that is what i am doing now, trying if it works08:49
AluminHeavenquake: use the "reportbug" command08:50
intelikeybxnp also if you are doing that text based you will see much more of the actual error08:50
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bxnpi am always doing it text base, for that reason08:51
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ricmikBlackhex: ah, ok :)08:51
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Blackhexany idea about my kmail problem?08:52
atidemhello08:52
ricmikAlumin, Blackhex: Do you know about managing the CPU-frequency on Centrino processors?08:53
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Blackhexricmik: somethinge yes08:54
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ricmikBlackhex: is there some kind of tool to set the freq? Mine is set to max, with the result of a very noisy laptop....08:55
HeavenquakeAlumin: now it sent me to nano..08:55
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Blackhexricmik: the best configurable tool is cpufreqd but kubuntu has powernowd installed by default08:55
ricmikhmm08:56
ricmikdoesn't look like it's installed here08:56
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Assiderr.. is there a way to increase the number of packages downloaded simultanenously ?08:56
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blubb-kboxhi08:58
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blubb-kboxdoes anybody know a alternive ftp client to flashfxp?08:58
Blackhexok, I'll leave, see you alll...08:58
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ricmikBlackhex: but that's for shell use only.. right?08:58
blubb-kboxi havent found any client which has all the funktionc of flashfxp08:58
Blackhexthere is an frontend guidance-power-manager or something like that08:59
ricmikaha08:59
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Blackhexrcmik: but i thing these things doesn not need gui's08:59
Blackhexs/thing/think09:00
ricmikBlackhex: I think it should be easy to adjust the cpu freq when I need some more speed09:00
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hattacpu speed should adjust itself09:01
Blackhexyou can set different policies09:01
ricmikhatta: I thought mine did.. but it sounds like it's on max all the time09:01
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Assidthere has to be a way to increaser the simultanous connections09:02
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ubuntuhi all09:03
HeavenquakeAlumin: i ran reportbug, and then it dropped me to GNU Nano with the bug report inside. What now? is it sent, or am I supposed to copy the report into some webform, or?09:03
bxnpcould somebody send me the file in /etc/init.d/ for dhcp3-server09:03
bxnpfor the dapper version09:03
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bxnpsomebody ??09:04
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bxnpi need the file, dhcp3-server for the dapper version in /etc/init.d/09:05
HymnToLifebxnp, why don't you install the package ?09:05
bxnpcause i am having depency problem at the moment09:05
bxnpand need that file09:05
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HymnToLifeextract it from the package manually then09:06
bxnpthat files allso has the config for how to remove dhcp3-server so i can upgrade otherwise apt-get gives me an error09:06
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AluminHeavenquake: hmm09:08
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Aluminhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/+login  <- looks like that's the login page for the Ubuntu BTS09:08
AluminI guess I was expecting reportbug to work like it did in Debian09:08
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AluminHeavenquake: I'd use something like "reportbug --template -S normal istanbul" and then use the generated file when you do the bug report on the web site09:09
Aluminnot quite as automated as Debian's, but then I bet their bug reports don't fill up with 100 spams as a result09:09
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pentium4slm trk karde varm09:10
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waylandbillwoo! co-worker just installed ubuntu. converted another one. :-)09:12
Roeyhi! where are the non-ng madwifi drivers located in Kubuntu Feisty Fawn?09:12
Roey!feisty09:12
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+109:12
slow-motionre09:13
Roeyah, ubuntu+1, cool09:13
Roeyhey slow-motion09:13
slow-motionhi Roey09:13
Roeyhey hey09:13
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waylandbillhow's everyone doing? I came home from work to snow snow snow. :-/09:15
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lu-baowaylandbill, lol hello :) welcome back home um here ^^09:18
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waylandbill:)09:19
lu-baoneed help ummm09:19
stefan_kwith what lu-bao?09:20
lu-baorented a server (debian based) now i need to move files on it but i cant since ftp client aborts connection everytime firewall is out i think my server has no ftp daemon :(09:20
stefan_krsync or scp?09:20
lu-baoum what? ^^"09:21
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NightBirdlu-bao: can you ssh in?09:21
lu-baoyes i can :)09:21
lu-baoand ive installed um midnight commander and htop09:22
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NightBirdlu-bao, you running windows?09:22
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lu-baosearched for .deb packages at debian package search and got them through wget to my server :)09:22
lu-baoNightBird, yes ^^09:22
NightBirdlu-bao, my suggestion would be to download an sftp program.09:22
NightBirdI suggest WinSCP09:22
hattalu-bao, check out winscp09:22
lu-baosftp?09:23
hattayeah09:23
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lu-baooh better one for my kubuntu :)09:23
kpenrose_putty is very good also09:23
lu-baoi have putty :D09:23
NightBirdthat will give you an ftp like interface to upload files through the ssh connection09:23
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NightBirdkpenrose_, to upload files?09:23
lu-baoputty too?09:23
leopartuxhow can i activate auto login09:23
lu-baoaw damn meal arrived wait brb09:23
fdovingthere is pscp.exe, but it's windows-commandline-based, doesn't work that well. winscp is better iirc.09:23
bxnpwhat is the kernel for edgy09:24
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fdovingbxnp: 2.6.1709:24
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bxnpthanks now i know i have a very very broken system, wich need some help09:25
leopartuxi dont want to write user password at the begining09:25
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bxnpanyway upgrading process is started09:25
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kpenrose_putty includes pscp, which is the putty ssh copy, should work fine09:26
ricmikDoes someone know how to set up the backspace-button to act as "browse back" in konqueror/mozilla etc?09:26
alarmI've got a noobie question09:27
fdovingleopartux: open /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc with an editor as root. and go to line 533 uncommend and change the options you want.09:27
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alarmIm having trouble even installing kubuntu. It just freezes on the screen09:27
fdovingleopartux: the most important keys are 'AutoLoginEnable=true' and 'AutoLoginUser=yourusername'09:27
n8k99ricmik: in konqueror >configure shortcuts09:27
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BluesKajfor some reason my network shares will nor longer mount , this the the message : "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direcr user mounts" ...I havent changed anything AFAIK ...why now ?09:30
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BluesKajdamn samb a what a PITA09:31
PupenoRHow do I grep for "ssh" *or* "dns" ?09:31
ricmikn8k99: ah, thanks... but it doesn't seem to have any effect on firefox09:31
fdovingBluesKaj: did you upgrade anything samba related lately?09:32
n8k99sorry about that- i could only help you with  konq09:32
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alarm;kl09:32
hattaPupenoR, use |09:32
fdovingBluesKaj: if you want your chmods on files to stick over upgrades you must use dpkg-statoverride, not chmod directly09:32
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waylandbillBluesKaj: having trouble with samba try winscp to a sshd connection. Works nice and no seperate user database.09:32
n8k99ricmik:  i only use ff for my school's website which uses some crazy form of javascript09:33
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BluesKajwell fdoving , that's what I find so confusing...I haven't made any changes09:33
hattawinscp doesn't let you mount a volume as a filesystem09:33
hattait's hardly an alternative to samba09:33
fdovingBluesKaj: well is smbmnt suid root?09:34
waylandbillhatta, it would be great if it did mount. I agree.09:34
BluesKajwaylandbill, what is winscp?09:34
waylandbillBluesKaj: what fish:// is09:34
hattait's like ftp, but it runs over ssh09:34
KiPSeRoNhi somone how i can to fix the problem that have error in firefox "no video"09:34
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Aluminhatta: try sshfs09:34
hattaAlumin, I was just about to suggest that to waylandbill09:35
Aluminoh, are you not the OP? heh  just came back09:35
waylandbillhatta: I hardly need to map a drive letter on windows end. only if I needed a legacy connection09:35
BluesKajfdoving, how do I find if smbmnt suid root ?09:35
Aluminyeah, sshfs or FUSE for a more robust solution09:35
fdovingfish:/ or sftp:/ in konqueror is of course nice.09:35
hattawaylandbill, maybe you don't need to but lots of people do09:36
AluminBluesKaj: when you do "ls -ld `which smbmount`", what do the permission bits look like?09:36
waylandbillhatta: of course. I know that. I run a samba server on my fbsd box09:37
BluesKajAlumin, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 745312 2007-02-05 20:36 /usr/bin/smbmount09:37
Aluminok, it's not suid then09:37
leopartuxfdoving:  thanks i have found them AutoLoginEnable=true    AutoLoginUser=leopartux    is there a grafic interface for this09:37
Aluminif it were suid, the permissions bits would be -rwsr-xr-x09:37
Aluminnote the s instead of x09:38
fdovingBluesKaj: stat -c %A $(which smbmnt)09:38
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fdovingBluesKaj: ignore that, i didn't see the ls your pasted. it's not setuid root.09:38
BluesKajfdoving, so how do i fix it?09:39
waylandbillI could've sworn there was a windows ssh client that could mount a drive. Doesn't cygwin offer sshfs these days?09:39
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waylandbillprobably would be useless outside the bash since the native apps wouldn't see it... nevermind... :-/09:40
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kpenrose_Current weather for Allentown, Lehigh Valley International Airport :   Haze, Scattered clouds at 5500 feet, Temperature: 37.9F, Pressure: 29.55" Hg, Wind: 11 MPH WSW09:42
katakombidoes anybody know whether there's an accessability related channel?09:42
fdovingBluesKaj: sudo dpkg-statoverride --update --add root root 4755 $(which smbmnt)09:42
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Aluminwaylandbill: wait, this is for win32?09:42
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waylandbillAlumin: right.09:42
Aluminoh09:43
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Aluminwaylandbill: I'd try asking in ##windows09:43
Vincentuxhi everybody09:43
Aluminyou may want to ask if there's such a thing as an ssh IFS09:43
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Alumin("installable file system" driver)09:43
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waylandbillAlumin: ok. not a term I knew of09:43
VincentuxI have a prob with Kopete and KDE Wallet : how can I avoid Kopete to ask the kdewallet password at each startup ? The only solution I found on www was to leave "kdewallet password" blank, which is not a safe solution09:44
Aluminand good luck...Microsoft platforms usually don't do very interesting stuff these days unless it involves rockets or railguns :)09:44
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AluminVincentux: you've got something running at login that uses the wallet subsystem09:45
waylandbillAlumin:  :-D09:45
AluminVincentux: disable whatever that is09:45
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VincentuxAlumin : yes, it is kopete which use the wallet. But  want it to connect on startup, but I don't want it to use the wallet ... How can I do ?09:47
BluesKajfdoving, thx muchly ...it worked ! :)09:47
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VincentuxKopete can store its password, it doesn't need the wallet I guess. I would like to configure it to work without going through the wallet09:48
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fdovingVincentux: you can't have it safe -and- not asking for a password. it's kinda that question that makes the wallet a safer place.09:48
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AluminVincentux: disable wallet support in kopete then09:49
Vincentuxfdoving : so I should accept to enter my password at each startup to have a safe system ? this is what you are saying ?09:50
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VincentuxAlumin : I would like to do so, but I cannot find where/how09:50
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doomnxhello guys09:51
jajuankatelnet party09:51
AluminVincentux: I don't think Kopete can store its passwords anywhere but the wallet09:51
jajuankaenter here09:51
fdovingVincentux: that's up to you. but yes. passwords make systems safer. if you want safe you have to do something to 'unlock' the safety.09:51
jajuankatelnet mnb.sytes.net 2000009:51
Aluminso you just have to disable "save passwords"09:51
doomnxsorry for interupting09:51
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doomnxbut i am new to kubuntu and i seem to have a problem with disc partitions09:52
jajuankaHI GUYS. ENTER HERE IN TELNET09:52
jajuankaTELNET MNB.SYTES.NET 2000009:52
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doomnxif anyone feels like helping me let me know09:52
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VincentuxAlumin : that would explain a lot ;) - fdoving : I agree with you, but why Konqueror doesn't ask the wallet password ? It is added in the policy "always accept", but I cannot add apps in this policy. Pity ...09:53
VincentuxAlumin : if I deactivate the wallet, Kopete carries on connecting at startup. Is this compatible with your theory ?09:55
fdovingVincentux: kwallet asks for the password when konqueror requests it to, if the wallet isn't already open. (ie. opened by kopete)09:55
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AluminVincentux: yes, it'll just prompt for the password09:55
Lynoure_eMaX_: I had to go away... Did you get your key revoked following the instructions?09:55
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Aluminyou can also configure kopete not to auto-connect, but that's separate from save password09:55
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fdovingVincentux: look at kwallet like a safe, when the door is open the authorized programs can access it. you can configure this in kwallet -> settings -> configure kwallet -> access control (tab)09:56
bxnpis edgy faster then  dapper09:56
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fdovingbxnp: yes, it uses dash instead of bash for most non-interactive shells (most scripts etc.) that is faster.09:57
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Vincentuxfdoving : yes, I see the menu you are talking about. I read in the doc we cannot add applications there ... but I understand09:57
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Vincentuxok, Alumin, fdoving : thank you for your help. I have a better understanding of the wallet functionning now09:58
doomnxwell, i used to have two NTFS partitions on the HDD, 40GB (winxp) and 80GB. when i installed Kubuntu i resized the first partition and released 5GB for the installation. after that the 2nd (80GB) partition is only accessible from Kubuntu and not windows. can i do anything about that?09:58
cpk1O.o an slocate update?09:59
VincentuxI will accept to enter a second password after my session logon ;) - When will we have biometric identification support on linux ? :)09:59
fdovingVincentux: if you have a fingerprint-reader, it can be used :)09:59
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doomnxsorry for my english, if the above doesn't make any sense plz let me know10:00
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Vincentuxfdoving : what about the drivers for the reader ? :) I would ready to buy one ...10:01
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cpk1doomnx: is the 80gB formatted as EXT or NTFS?10:02
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premier_why am I having so much trouble with linux?10:02
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_6StringKng_so I installed Vista Ultimate yesterday, on a seperate HDD, anyway I could adds it to the OS list in grub?10:02
doomnxcpk1: it is NTFS10:02
cpk1doomnx: you sure you didnt accidently format it?10:03
doomnxi can view my old files on Kubuntu, but I don't know why it doesn't even appear on windows10:03
premier_I was running, amarok, and I was trying to find a peice of music, and it started scrolling through all my music rapidly.  Then it crashed, which caused everything else to become unresponsive, so I had to restart my computer, and now it wont play music at all10:04
ccherretthow can you check what version of glib you are running?10:04
cpk1thats really odd10:04
fdovingVincentux: i don't have one myself, so i'm not that up2date on the drivers, but i know they exist.10:04
cpk1premier_: sounds like you need the right codecs10:04
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doomnxit's like it changed the file system and windows doesn't recognise it10:04
doomnxbut on linux it says it's still NTFS10:05
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cpk1doomnx: it would of had to format it to change it10:05
premier_cpk1: it was worknig find before10:05
fdovingccherrett: dpkg -l libglib*10:05
premier_Its going through all the motions, I can even see the the analyzer go up and down with the beats, but I cant actually hear anything.  Its like Im going deaf10:05
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doomnxdo u think something might have gone wrong with Gparted on resize?10:06
ccherrettfdoving: thanks, is it possible to install a newer version?10:06
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Frost^Hey there. I've java installed, and it is working on firefox. It does not however work with konqueror. Does anyone happen to know what to do?10:06
cpk1premier_: well you could try using amarok 1.4.5 and see if that helps at all10:07
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Vincentuxfdoving : I found a mouse with biometric reader for 60 EUR here... but after we need the drivers. I will check this, about the linux support, but later. I am a newbie on Linux/Buntu, I have more crucial problems to solve ;)10:07
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cpk1Frost^: go to settings > configure konquerer > plugins then click search for new plugins or somesuch10:07
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fdovingccherrett: i wouldn't recommend updating to anything not packages for your kubuntu release. why would you need to update it?10:08
DjDarkmanhy ,I think someting is wrong with my harddrive is there a program that can diagnose it?10:08
dettofsck10:08
Frost^I've done that already. Java does not appear in the "detected plugins", even though the path does appear to be there.10:08
cpk1DjDarkman: smartmontools10:08
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ccherrettfdoving: i want to compile gimp svn10:08
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doomnxcould the MFT be messed up? if i reinstall windows is there a chance for my 80GB partition to be recognised?10:09
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fdovingccherrett: then i'd suggest compiling a newer glib too, i'd suggest setting the prefix to /opt for both.10:09
ccherrettfdoving: ok will do10:09
fdovingccherrett: then you can have your selfcompiled experimental stuff in /opt/ and the good old working system untouched by your experimental hacking projects.10:10
ccherrettI guess I then have to tell gimp where to get glib from as well10:10
DjDarkmancpk1: i installed it ,but how do I use it?10:10
fdovingi guess if you pass them the same prefix, gimp will find it's new glib friend.10:10
cpk1Frost^: have you tried using a java website yet10:10
ccherrettfdoving: thanks10:10
Frost^Yes. It works in firefox, konqueror just shows a "Loading Applet" message.10:11
cpk1DjDarkman: I cant remember and I dont have the man, its something like smart <someoption> /dev/hda (or whatever logical name your hdd has)10:11
DjDarkmanok thanks cpk1 ,I`ve tried to find a man page too10:11
doomnxanyway... something last: because this is my 3rd day on linux, and i haven't got an internet connection at home, i'd like to ask something really newbish... how can install the graphics card drivers that i downloaded from the NVIDIA website?10:12
_eMaX_Lynoure yes that seemed to work10:12
doomnxif there is a guide about it i would be grateful10:12
_eMaX_Lynoure now I still have problems with it; particularly as Evolution and also Thunderbird keep the mails in their encrypted format - and thus cannot search them.10:12
Lynoure_eMaX_: I'm glad. It's not really harmful to have defunct keys on the servers but it is a bit annoying.10:12
waylandbillFrost^: konq wants the java path set explicitly "/usr/bin/java"10:13
waylandbillFrost^: don't ask why. don't know that. just know it does10:13
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Lynoure_eMaX_: and doing Enigmail->Decrypt/Verify  and then Enigmail->Save as decrypted  does not help?10:14
cpk1doomnx: it would be better if you got the .deb from the ubuntu packages site10:14
Lynoure_eMaX_: it has been over a year since I used Thunderbird...10:14
jhutchinsdoomnx: Is it possible that you've just changed drive letters and Windows isn't finding the third partition?10:14
doomnxjhutchins how do i check that?10:15
doomnxcpk1 where iss the ubuntu packages site?10:15
jhutchinsWEll, you had 40/80 before, right? Same drive?10:15
Frost^waylandbill: Interesting, I accidentally set it to /opt/bin/java before.10:15
doomnxsame drive yes10:15
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jhutchinsNow you have 35/5/80?10:15
doomnxyes10:15
cpk1doomnx: http://packages.ubuntu.com/10:15
doomnxthanks cpk110:16
jhutchinsI presume this is /dev/hda, does fdisk -l /dev/hda show the partitions correctly and of the correct type?10:16
Frost^waylandbill: It still doesn't work...10:16
Frost^When you said it wants the java path set, where should it be set?10:17
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doomnxjhutchins one moment... i am on a net cafe... using windows... but through system settings in ubuntu, it shows the correct types10:17
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waylandbillFrost^: absolute path to 'java'10:18
cpk1doomnx: now that I think about it though, there might be too many dependencies to just get the packages from the website10:18
Frost^In konq's configuration screen, under "java & javascript"?10:18
waylandbillFrost^: correct10:19
doomnxkubuntu 6.10 is edgy, right?10:19
Frost^Hmmm...10:19
cpk1yes10:19
doomnxand what is backports on the site?10:19
Frost^It's still a no go for some reason..10:19
DjDarkmanhow can I check if my harddrive`s DMA works?10:19
Frost^And I even killed konqueror after setting it10:19
waylandbillFrost^: sorry. :-/10:19
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cpk1doomnx: I think it would be too difficult to get the package from the packages website though, there are quite a few dependencies for it10:19
doomnxoh ok10:19
Frost^Well, still, thanks a lot for trying10:20
doomnxthen how do i install that .run file?10:20
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Frost^Something is fishy about this though10:20
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_eMaX_Lynoure no. because it tells me "there's no decrypted message to save". stupid message :)10:20
doomnxjhutchins any ideas? i can access (read only mode) the partition on kubuntu but not on windows :(10:20
premier_how do I reinstall a program?  like alsa?10:20
DjDarkmannever mind ,I remember it now10:20
cpk1doomnx: you need to stop X and then login through a terminal and then just do ./nameofnvidia.run10:20
doomnxdot included?10:21
jhutchinsI think what's happened is that it's moved from partition 2 to partition 3.10:21
Lynoure_eMaX_: Even when you have decrypted it as the very previous step?10:21
_eMaX_Lynoure I'd rather like to have that working in evolution, but evolution severely fucks up messages I send pgp encrypted through the exchange adapter. So I keep sending them from thunderbird and shove messages from one to the other using my local imap10:21
_eMaX_sure i can read the message :)10:21
cpk1doomnx: yes10:21
jhutchinsThere are some rumors that some versions of windows only recognize two primary partitions and the rest must be virtual, but it's supposed to recognize four.10:21
doomnxjhutchins and i can see the partition through the windows disc manages but it says "Unknown"10:21
cpk1doomnx: it would be much easier if you could do this through apt10:21
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jhutchinsdoomnx: Ok.10:21
Frost^It doesn't say anything in the console either, damn it10:22
doomnxmanages=manager*10:22
jhutchinsdoomnx: I'd like you to open a console for me, because the information's a little bit clearer in text mode.10:22
jhutchinsI was just going to ask you about disk manager.10:22
doomnxbut i am not on my PC right now10:22
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jhutchinsk.10:22
en1gmahey all im burning amd-64 edgy 6.10 and am wondering will i be able to boot the libe dvd with my nvidia 8800gtx without having to go into "safe graphics mode"10:22
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doomnxcpk1 and what do i have to do through apt?10:23
dhornHey, is there any way to reset the default position/properties of kicker?  I hid it and I can't get it back10:23
jhutchinsWHat I would suggest is that you do sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda and see what type the partition is listed.  It should match the first partition, obviously.10:23
cpk1doomnx: an internet connection10:23
jhutchinsdoomnx: Actually, you can just do fdisk -l10:24
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doomnxoh u mean download the drivers through apt?10:24
Lynoure_eMaX_: that's not necessarily enough. Did you try doing those two commands in sequence?10:24
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premier_how do I reinstall a program?  like alsa?10:24
en1gmaanyone know about kubuntu and 8800 gtx10:24
doomnxjhutchins ok when i go home i will hit alt+f2 and type sudo fdisk -1?10:25
jhutchinsdoomnx: What you want to look at is the ID colum - the number should match, not just the description.10:25
_eMaX_well when I click on the mail it is decrypted automatically in the preview pane. and yes I tried them in sequence.10:25
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dhornHey, is there any way to reset the default position/properties of kicker?  I hid it and I can't get it back10:25
jhutchinsdoomnx: NTFS can be "86" or "87", and I'm not sure what the difference is.10:26
doomnxand number should match with... what?10:26
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doomnxoh10:26
jhutchinsFirst off, I would say the number should match the first partition.10:26
jhutchinsIf it already does, I suppose you can change the type to the other option and see if windows recognizes it.10:26
jhutchinsdoomnx: You used qparted?10:26
doomnxyes i did10:27
Lynoure_eMaX_: Mozilla and enigmail are not quite seamless, so sometimes a mail can be shown plaintext when enigmail no longer sees it as decrypted (or so people say)10:27
cpk1hrmm i think google search says ntfs uses 7...10:27
jhutchinsdoomnx: Odd thing is, of course, you didn't actually change the affected partition.10:27
_eMaX_ok10:27
jhutchinsdoomnx: Something else you can try is "detect new hardware".10:27
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_eMaX_It just worked for some reason10:27
_eMaX_but saving just saved it to disk10:27
_eMaX_I want to keep it saved in my mail folders.10:27
_eMaX_but decrypted, as the mail folder files themselves are on an encrypted storage10:28
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jhutchinsdoomnx: You know... it should see the second partition, which is linux, as an unknown filesystem.  Do you show two unknown partitions?10:28
om3gahey quick ?? what stand alone mail program does every one perfer in kubuntu10:28
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doomnxi didn't try detecting new hardware but shouldn't windows detect it on start?10:28
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KiPSeRoNsomone can help me10:29
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jhutchinsom3ga: kmail10:29
doomnxjhutchins yes 2 uknown partitions10:29
jhutchinsdoomnx: Should != windows.10:29
om3gaok10:29
jhutchinsdoomnx: rats.10:29
doomnx1st is the active one that holds windows10:29
doomnxthen 2 unknown10:29
doomnxand then it shows the other HDD10:30
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LynoureKiPSeRoN: Only if you tell someone what you need help with...10:30
KiPSeRoNwhen i boot up my kubuntu system its show me that starting up but i get a command line but after few sec its gone and i get a blank screen that i can type in it but its dont do anything somone can help me10:30
jhutchinsdoomnx: I'm not even sure you can do a fsck on ntfs.10:30
KiPSeRoN?10:30
doomnxhave i messed up the MFT or what?10:30
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jhutchinsdoomnx: Partition table.10:30
doomnxjhutchins can i just copy important files from 80GB partition to 35GB through linux?10:31
jhutchinsdoomnx: It's possible you do not have the same information in two tables.10:31
KiPSeRoNLynoure:10:31
jhutchinsdoomnx:  Oh yeah, that works great.10:31
KiPSeRoNYOU KNOW HOW TO HELP ME10:31
KiPSeRoN?10:31
doomnxbut i get an error every time i try that10:31
Lynoure_eMaX_: I just saw a complicated workaround for that, but if you get encrypted mail daily, it's too complicated10:31
Lynoure!caps | KiPSeRoN10:31
ubotuKiPSeRoN: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.10:31
jhutchinsdoomnx: Ah HA!10:31
jhutchinsdoomnx: What error, when you do what?10:32
_eMaX_which workaround10:32
doomnxcopy from the 1 ntfs partition to the other10:32
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jhutchinsdoomnx: Because you don't have NTFS writing enabled, right?10:32
doomnx80 to 35(windows)10:32
LynoureKiPSeRoN: I was just telling you to tell people on the channel your problem, not offering my help is specific, I'll have to go soon.10:32
doomnxjhutchins i guess so10:32
Lynoure_eMaX_: lessee if I can find it again...10:32
_eMaX_tnx10:32
jhutchinsdoomnx: Do you have any of this backed up?10:32
Lynoure_eMaX_: if I recall right it was 7 steps long.10:33
doomnxjhutchins any of which?10:33
jhutchinsdoomnx: How much data on the 80?10:33
Lynoure_eMaX_: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.enigmail.general/month=2005080110:33
om3gawhere do i open kmail10:34
doomnxwell it's enough data, but if i manage to pass it to C: then i can transfer to external storage or DVDs and format the whole HDD from scratch10:34
jhutchinsom3ga: Alt-F2, kmail10:34
_eMaX_tnx!10:34
om3gai got it n/m10:34
om3gatnx10:34
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jhutchinsdoomnx: Well, what about transfering it to external storage via linux?10:34
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cpk1doomnx: you can just pass it to your linux partition (actually you probably dont even need to do that) and then back it up to wherever you want10:35
LynoureKiPSeRoN: but I can ask you some troubleshooting questions that might help: Has your kubuntu always done that? If not, when did it start and what did you change then? Which version you are using?10:35
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en1gmadoes anyone know if amd-64 edgy 6.10 will work like it should without having to startup in "safe graphics mode" with an 8800gtx10:35
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KiPSeRoNLynoure:10:35
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doomnxu got a point there10:35
Lynoure_eMaX_: If that "thx" was for me, you are welcome :)10:35
KiPSeRoNlisten i restart my computer10:35
doomnxbut linux partition is only 3GB10:35
KiPSeRoNand move to windows for sec10:36
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KiPSeRoNbut i click on kubuntu10:36
doomnx3.510:36
faLUCEHi. my kernel version is 2.6.17-10-generic. I must compile a new patched vanilla kernel.... which version is stable for kubuntu?10:36
KiPSeRoNand before its up10:36
KiPSeRoNi do restart10:36
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KiPSeRoNand go to windows when i restart agein and leave the windwos its give me that problem its look like the system is start but the i get the command line after few minuts its gone and come the black screen10:37
KiPSeRoNand i am using 6.1010:37
KiPSeRoNedgy10:37
KiPSeRoNno10:38
LynoureKiPSeRoN: commandline as in command prompt? or just line of bootup?10:38
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KiPSeRoN6.1010:38
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doomnxwell i got another 80GB HDD... i can connect it and transfer the files through linux10:38
KiPSeRoNcommandline10:38
doomnxbut it is NTFS10:38
KiPSeRoNkipseron10:38
doomnxcan it write on NTFS?10:38
KiPSeRoNdesktop and place to type command10:38
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cpk1doomnx: yes you can, but you run the risk of corrupting the data10:38
doomnxoh oh...10:38
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doomnxthen what format should i make that disc?10:39
KiPSeRoNLynoure:10:39
jhutchinsdoomnx: Hang on...10:39
KiPSeRoNyou maybe have an idea that i can try to fix that problem10:39
cpk1ext3 or ext2 I cant remember if there is an ext3 driver for windows but I know there is an ext2 driver for windows10:39
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doomnxbut will windows be able to read that disc in order to move the files back?10:40
_eMaX_it was for you. I tested it. It basically works, but is as the author also says very far from ideal - you loose the header info. Well that could probably be "unparsed" with some perl script, yet today I am too tired for that10:40
_eMaX_thanks anyways10:41
blubb-kboxey guys10:41
BluesKajcpk1, do you mean ntfs-3g ?10:41
blubb-kboxdoes anybody know a good ftp client.. an alternative client to flashfxo /windows10:41
LynoureKiPSeRoN: From your description I would not rule out anything, starting from a damaged file system. You could try booting with rescue cd or something and then run e2fsck -f on your root partition10:41
KiPSeRoNok10:41
KiPSeRoNi try that10:41
cpk1BluesKaj: i suppose, I havent had to bother with ntfs write support10:42
doomnxsorry for being tiring for u guys...10:42
KiPSeRoNlive cd10:42
KiPSeRoNits good10:42
KiPSeRoN?10:42
Lynoure!enter10:42
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:42
doomnxif only i could reveal that partition to WinXP... it would all be fine10:42
LynoureKiPSeRoN: yes, it's fine.10:42
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doomnxcan linux write on FAT32?10:43
BluesKajdoomnx, try a small program acalled "ntfs-3g"10:43
acetoxyI can't change my keyboard layout in Regional Settings -> Keyboard Layout. All input boxes are empty and I can't change enything. Any ideas?10:43
doomnxntfs-3g? and what does it do?10:43
KiPSeRoNits give you a promission to make a readable ntfs partiton10:44
jhutchinsdoomnx: Ok, did you say you have some essentially blank NTFS storage?10:44
BluesKajdoomnx, it lets you write and exchange files from windoe sto linux10:44
KiPSeRoNnot read10:44
KiPSeRoNwrite yeah10:44
Lynoure_eMaX_: if you come up with some good way of doing the same, please publish it on a blog or ubuntu wiki or somewhere.10:44
doomnxjhutchins tes u di10:44
doomnxyes i do*10:44
_eMaX_will do10:44
cpk1BluesKaj: I still think if he has blank ntfs storage he might as well format that to ext2/3 and make life easier10:44
jhutchinsWhat about reformatting it to vfat?10:45
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doomnxvfat?10:45
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jhutchinsfat3210:45
BluesKajyup cpk1 , agreed ...if he has no files on the fat/ntfs drive10:45
doomnxfat32 supports files up to what size?10:45
cpk1jhutchins: why not EXT? windows can read EXT10:45
Roeycpk1:  windows can read ext3??10:46
Roeynatively?10:46
jhutchinscpk1: Only with special drivers, which can be a pain.10:46
jhutchinsNo.10:46
Lynoure_eMaX_: :) I'll now escape to sleep. Thank you for being so patient.10:46
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cpk1not sure about ext3 but ext2 for sure10:46
jhutchinsnot natively.10:46
Roeyjhutchins:  that's what I thought10:46
BluesKajI can read linux files from windows , yes10:46
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doomnxwell my windows can't read ext3 obviously10:46
jhutchinsdoomnx: I don't know the file size limit for vfat off the top of my head.10:46
dwidmanndoomnx: supports files up to 4gb I thought ...... might be less10:46
doomnxcause there are some DVD isos in that "invisible" 80GB partition10:47
cpk1and actually you can format ext3 and then when windows uses it it just wont write to the journal10:47
_eMaX_thanks to you!10:47
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doomnxso linux can't write to NTFS... windows can't read ext3... and i am desperate...10:48
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BluesKajlinux can write to ntfs !10:48
jhutchinsdoomnx: Ok, fat32 file size limit is 4GB.10:48
dwidmannLinux can write to NTFS, Windows can read to and write to ext310:48
jhutchinsdoomnx: Here's the deal on ntfs:10:49
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doomnxwe put away the "revealing partition to windows" scenario?10:49
dwidmannLinux writing to NTFS isn't particularly stable though .... don't do it if you really rely on the data you're putting on there10:49
jhutchinsOriginally, there was only one flavor of NTFS that was part of NT3.5/4.  Linux had kernel level drivers that were find for reading AND WRITING to this filesystem.10:49
BluesKajlook in the system menu 'storage media'10:49
cpk1doomnx: windows can read ext3, it just wont use the journal, and linux can write to ntfs it just might corrupt your data but I think for the most part that doesnt happen anymore10:50
jhutchinsTHen Microsoft started messing around with the NFTS specs, and introduced a few off-flavor types.10:50
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jhutchinsNT drivers recognize and compensate for the differences, but Microsoft never released any documentation on them.  The origninal Linux R/W drivers couldn't tell that it wasn't a standard NTFS.10:50
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jhutchinsThe BIG problem is that the first symptom you get that you have one of the rare, incompatible versions is major corruption.10:51
jhutchinsYou either loose any files you changed, or the files around them too, or the whole partition.10:51
doomnxoh and something else that might help: when i booted from the WinXP installation disc it could read that the 80GB partition is NTFS10:51
cpk1also, the ext2 driver for windows looks pretty simple and straightforward10:51
doomnxbut Windows themselves see it "unknown"10:51
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jhutchinsIt's like heart disease: when the first symptom is catastrophic failure, it's very difficult to diagnose or treat.10:51
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ubuntuLynoure:10:52
ubuntu?10:52
ubuntuit me kipseron10:52
jhutchinsTHere are two solutions to this: captive NTFS and the new NTFS-3g drivers.10:52
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jhutchinsCaptive searches for the NTFS drivers in the windows partition read-only, then loads them and remounts the partition using Microsoft's own code.10:52
ErikTheReddoes anyone know if it is possible to resize an XFS partition without destroying the data on it?10:52
jhutchinsDoesn't always work, it's slow, but it's usually successful.10:53
judgemoin10:53
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jhutchinsntfs-3g is new code taht attempts to reverse-engineer all possible NTFS flavors, and at the very least refuse to write if doing so would destroy data.10:53
cpk1i still think if he has that empty 80gB hdd formatting it to ext3/2 would be simplest10:53
jhutchinscpk1: Why not format it to vfat, which both linux and windows can read natively?10:54
cpk1file size limitation10:54
doomnxindeed :(10:54
matsavhalevhi guys, anyone going to FOSDEM?10:54
jhutchinscpk1: Only an issue if he has files over 4GB.10:54
cpk1if he is sitting on dvd isos he might have some files over 4gB10:54
doomnxi do have10:54
jhutchinsdoomnx: Do you?10:54
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doomnxmost of the files i wanna "reascue" are game isos10:55
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doomnxrescue*10:55
jhutchinsdoomnx: What about burning them?10:55
doomnxthey are mds/mdf10:55
jhutchinsdoomnx: Do you need access to them from windows?10:55
doomnxyeah i usually mount them with daemon tools10:55
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jhutchinsdoomnx: http://freshmeat.net/projects/mdf2iso/10:56
doomnxk3b doesn't support mdf does it?10:56
cpk1doomnx: http://www.fs-driver.org/ read about it yourself so you can make an educated decision for yourself10:56
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doomnxok we can convert those games to iso but i don't fell like burning so many CD/DVDs10:57
doomnxnot to mention i keep them on HDD on purpose10:57
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cpk1doomnx: like I said, do some reading so you can decide what you want since in the end its not what we want but how you want to use your system10:58
jhutchinsdoomnx: I think what I'd do would be to use the ntfs-3g drivers to write the files to the external ntfs drive.  That way you don't loose the originals, and you create a possible recovery disk.10:58
jhutchinsThen you can reformat the "bad" partition into whatever you decide.10:58
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ubuntu__yaccin: that 2nd tastymenu package worked but it was a little buggy10:58
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jhutchinsI take it you're pretty much committed to a one-PC solution here, right?10:58
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lontrasorry :/10:58
hattaproprietary CD/DVD image formats are evil10:58
jhutchinshatta: As are propietary/undoccumented filesystems.10:59
yaccinubuntu_: how buggy?10:59
doomnxjhutchins if u mean i only have 1 PC u're right10:59
lontrayaccin: some times the icon would partially disappear10:59
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doomnxdo u thing formating and reinstalling windows will make them detect the partition?11:00
yaccinhmm strange11:00
jhutchinsdoomnx: One of the easiest ways to deal with the format problem is to use samba to connect over the network, then Linux can use NTFS and Windows ext/reiser.11:00
lontrai've also found the opensuse menu to be kind of buggy on kubuntu...at least the .deb packages out there11:00
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yaccinlontra: feisty?11:00
lontrayaccin: yes11:00
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jhutchinsdoomnx: I would suggest using qparted to see if there's anything you can fix before you reinstall windows.11:00
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doomnxwhat do u mean fix?11:01
jhutchinsdoomnx: I would try copying to the external drive with ntfs-3g.11:01
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jhutchinsdoomnx: See if qparted sees anything wrong with the partition or partition table, ask it to fix it.11:01
doomnxwhy couldn't i split 5GB into 1.5 and 3.5? i was only able to do it with WinXP install disc11:02
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cpk1and I would reformat the extra drive to ext3 since its empty ^^ and then move the files around11:02
doomnxis qparted installed on kubuntu?11:02
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lontrayaccin: have you made a deb package of the openSuSE menu?11:03
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jhutchinsdoomnx: No idea, didn't you say you'd used it to resize things?11:03
jhutchinsdoomnx: Wherever you originally got it.11:03
lontradoomnx: if it's not install it11:03
cpk1i think he meant during the install11:03
jhutchinsdoomnx: I just use fdisk myself. resizing is so slow I've never been patient enough to do it.11:03
doomnxjhutchins i used qparted on the installation of kubuntu11:04
yaccinat first11:04
yaccinbut then i compiled it11:04
BluesKaji had better luck with gparted -livecd11:04
jhutchinsdoomnx: THen it must be on the disk.11:04
doomnxlontra i can't install anything on linux, i don't have an internet connection at home11:04
lu-baommmh now i want to make  a website :x *need clues*11:04
lontrayaccin: was it difficult to compile?11:05
jordo23Is there a way to record your desktop to video (to demonstrate 3d effects) from KDE?11:05
lontrajordo23: recordmydesktop?11:05
cpk1doomnx: qparted should be a package on the disc, put the disc in and run apt-cdrom11:05
lontra!recordmydesktop11:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about recordmydesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:05
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lontra!info recordmydesktop11:05
ubotuPackage recordmydesktop does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas11:05
yaccinlontra: no :)11:05
lontrahe he11:05
jordo23:)11:06
jhutchinscpk1: can you download DVD iso's at school and get them home somehow?11:06
cox377how much ram does kubuntu nativly use11:06
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doomnxwell i need either drivers for NTFS on linux or drivers for EXT2 on windows... that's the sum, no?11:06
jhutchinscox377: Depends on what you're running.11:06
cox377because i'm using about 420mb out of 512mb with nothing running, well no user applications anyway11:06
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cox377jhutchins: well with nothing open its 420mb11:06
cpk1i suppose if you had a nice someone in charge at the school you could11:06
jhutchinscox377: It'll use as much as is available for caching and buffering, freeing it if needed for programs.11:06
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cox377jhutchins: Umm??11:07
jhutchins512M is very comfortable.11:07
doomnxand anyone happens to know how i run the .run from the nvidia driver site?11:07
cpk1cox377: you will always be using about all of your ram in linux, thats just how it does things11:07
jhutchinsdoomnx: As above, including the dot.11:07
SSJ_GZcox377: Memory benchmarks for KDE here : http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html and here : http://spooky-possum.org/cgi-bin/pyblosxom.cgi/kdevsgnome.html11:08
cpk1cox377: you will know if you need more ram if you start filling up the swap11:08
doomnxcan u give that again?11:08
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jhutchinsdot is shorthand for </absolute/path/to/this/current/directory>11:08
cox377jhutchins: how do i check swap?11:08
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jhutchinsHow did you see how much memory was used?11:08
stone_i have a question i've downloaded kubunto ver. 6.10 and i can't burn it to dvd it says it's corrupt, any way to fix?11:09
SSJ_GZcox377: General introduction to Linux memory management: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-175419-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html11:09
cox377jhutchins: process table11:09
jhutchinsI use the console tools iostat or just top.11:09
cpk1doomnx: you need to stop X (go to tty1 then do sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop) then do ./nameofnvidia.run11:09
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jhutchinsWow,that's a new one.  "invoke-rc.d".11:09
doomnxone moment cause i'm realy newbie... where do i enter the commmands? alt-f2?11:09
jhutchinsThat'd be the same thing as "service" in Fedora I guess, which just runs "/etc/init.d/kdm stop".11:10
cpk1doomnx: press ctrl alt f111:10
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cpk1doomnx: I think you still need the kernel headers though which you DONT have11:10
stone_off topic<< does any one know of a good irc game server?11:10
Lord_FlasheartCVirus: hey dude, i wasn't able to edit the grub menu like you suggested - you can remove quiet, but then if you try to press b or go back up to the top level and press enter, it just reboots the computer and when you go and check it hasn't saved the change?11:10
Kr4t05Can you use special characters, like the Greek letter "", in KMenu entries, are you?11:11
doomnxi downloaded a .run and something like x-config archive11:11
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doomnxthe os installation is "out of the box" no updates, no installations (don't know how to....) :P11:12
doomnxand i wanted to start from the basics... drivers...11:12
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doomnxi searched the net and everywhere it says that u must have an internet connection and use apt-get11:13
cpk1doomnx: why cant you use the internet with linux?11:13
LaNCeloT_RWhi ppl , im trying to play some wmv files... but is not working... what should I do ?11:13
doomnxi just don't have internet at home... neither on windows11:13
cpk1oh i see11:13
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HymnToLifedoomnx, Ubuntu is not for you then11:13
lontraLaNCeloT_RW: install w32codecs11:13
doomnxi realised that...11:13
HymnToLifealmost everything is done through the net11:13
doomnxbut at least i wanted to recover my files...11:13
LaNCeloT_RW!w32codecs11:13
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs11:13
cox377!ksmserver11:13
ubotuksmserver: session manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 168 kB, installed size 428 kB11:14
doomnxbut i like it very much as an OS :)11:14
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HymnToLifeyou might like Debian, it is very similar to Ubuntu but has 20 CDs of apt-gettable pcakages11:14
EmbraceUnityHello Admiral11:14
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cpk1... you dont need the net for ubuntu11:14
LaNCeloT_RWlontra, let me try..11:14
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LaNCeloT_RWthanks11:14
cpk1and debian's packages are much older11:14
cox377!dcopserver11:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dcopserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:14
doomnxin summer i will install internet connection and then... ;)11:14
HymnToLifecpk1, you don't seem to know what you're talking about...11:14
explosiveshello ubuntu, hello ubuntu users this is my first day on linux ubuntu which one is better than tho other one ubuntu or windows ???11:15
cox377!kwrapper11:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:15
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HymnToLife!offtopic | explosives11:15
ubotuexplosives: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:15
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doomnxwell guys... thanks for all ur help11:15
doomnxu were amazing11:16
lontraHymnToLife: you don't need internet...it helps...but you certainly don't need it11:16
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Frost^Can anyone tell me how to list the real content of an installed package?11:16
lontraFrost^: dpkg -L foo11:16
doomnxi can't remember any windows helpers like u11:16
Frost^For some reason dpkg -L is not working11:16
Frost^It lies :)11:16
cox377jhutchins: my swap memory doesnt seem to be used @ all, is this right?11:16
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cpk1HymnToLife: which is? if doomnx can download packages from an internet cafe he should be able to make his own repo cds11:17
Frost^When I do dpkg -L kdebase, it gives only 7 files11:17
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Frost^Which makes no sense to me.11:17
jhutchinscox377: Probably.11:17
doomnxthe ubuntu community isn't a myth... it's true :) keep it alive guys11:17
explosivesHymnToLife:  how can i install my graphic driver its name is NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9746-pkg1.run and it is on my desktop ?11:17
HymnToLifecpk1, have you actually tried it ?11:17
doomnxthanks again11:17
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lontraHymnToLife: it's easy to set up a repos local11:17
HymnToLifeexplosives, you don't want to do that, use the one from the repos unless you have a good reason not to11:17
HymnToLifelontra, not for a newbie11:17
lontraHymnToLife: no but there is google11:18
doomnxwhere do the file .run have to be when i type the ./ command?11:18
Frost^lontra: Is there another way which I can check a package content with?11:18
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explosivesrepos what is it ?11:18
HymnToLifedoomnx, in he currend working dir11:19
HymnToLifeubotu, tell explosives about nvidia | explosives, see the private message from ubotu.11:19
doomnxthat is...?11:19
jhutchinscox377: Lessee, I've got 15 tabs in konversation, a one page kwrite, kmail with three connections and ~10,000 messages, 4 konsole sessions, 8 knoqueror windows (some with multiple tabs), and 9 widgets counting the clock, I'm into 131M of swap.11:19
lontraFrost^: i've always just used dpkg -L ... i'm not sure...you could try the man page...could it be that there really are only 7 files?11:19
doomnxit's at Home now11:19
HymnToLifedoomnx, whichever dir you're currently in :)11:19
HymnToLifepwd will tell you11:19
doomnxand what i type again?11:19
HymnToLifebut what's that .run file for anyway ?11:19
cox377jhutchins: lol point taken11:19
cpk1HymnToLife: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptMoveHowto seems pretty simple11:19
doomnxnvidia drivers11:19
lontra!nvidia11:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:20
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GaborI have a wireless problem11:20
Gaborcan anyone support?11:20
jhutchinscox377: If you use the KDE programs, they share a lot of code and don't have to load seperate copies of it.11:20
lontraGabor: what card?  what problem?11:20
doomnxomg i'm a pain in the @ss :(11:20
HymnToLifecpk1, 1st step, install apt-move, you need Universe11:20
cpk1also I would imagine just downloading .debs and throwing them in your cache would work11:21
HymnToLifeit does11:21
GaborRalink RT2600 Connection Problem11:21
doomnxanyway thanks again11:21
doomnxgoodnight guys11:21
doomnx(btw i managed to install my canon S100 printer easier than windowsxp :P)11:21
GaborWhen using the connection manager it just hangs and then disconnects,11:21
jhutchinsdoomnx: Full path to the file or bash <path to file> or sudo if it requires root privilage.11:21
HymnToLifebut downloading all the debs and moving, taking care of dependencies manually11:21
HymnToLifeis a real pain11:21
doomnxusb printer*11:21
jhutchinsdoomnx:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html <= my best command line intro.11:22
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doomnxok i'm really late11:22
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doomnx00:22 here11:22
jhutchinsGabor: By the way, there really isn't any "support" here, we're just fellow users who made the same mistakes you did a little bit sooner.11:23
LaNCeloT_RWlontra, my ubuntu is an AMD64...i couldnt find a way to install w32codecs =/11:23
doomnxgoodnight from greece and thanks for all11:23
Lord_FlasheartCVirus: I seem to have worked out how to do it now, the boot process stops just after 'Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [OK] 11:23
GaborWell fellow users can be support to :=P11:23
lontraLaNCeloT_RW: ah...you'll need to set up a chroot if you want to play WMV11:23
cpk1doomnx: you know there is a greek channel right?11:23
jhutchinsLaNCeloT_RW: Something about the 32 in w32.11:23
Lord_FlasheartCVirus: have you any ideas as to what could be causing the problem?11:23
jhutchinsLaNCeloT_RW: What you need is the w64codecs - which don't exist yet.11:23
LaNCeloT_RWoh.. i'll try it later... =/11:24
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LaNCeloT_RWdamn wmv files11:24
Kite_DHi got a little question : in the folder "/usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/128x128/filesystems" (standard kubuntu iconset) are orange folders too, i want to activate them, but when i change filename the orange turns blue, lol, and when i rightclick a folder>preferences and change it there, only the folder i clicked is orange...but i want all to be11:24
Kite_DHcan somebody help me?11:24
jhutchinsLaNCeloT_RW: I know some people dual boot or chroot into a 32b installation for those.11:24
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jhutchinsKite_DH: Are you using the crystalsvg theme?11:25
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LaNCeloT_RWjhutchins, well... gotta go back for some minutes to my Windows HD11:26
LaNCeloT_RWsee ya11:26
LaNCeloT_RWthanks anywat11:26
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LaNCeloT_RWanyway*11:26
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Lord_Flashearthi, i am trying to install kubuntu on my new laptop. i have installed it from the text installer, and am unable to boot into the operating system - it stops after 'Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [OK] '. the specifications of the machine are: http://www.rockdirect.com/support/product_view.php?product_qa_id=144&size=min. does anyone have any idea what is wrong?11:28
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Kite_DHjhutchins: yes i am11:31
fjellrev1Im trying to get dual monitors to work,but have a slight problem when trying to fix the resoultion though the nvidia x server settings : XRandR X extension was not found...Anyone ? ?11:31
piro_trying to go portrait?11:32
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makuseruwhat do i need to burn mp3s in k3b?11:34
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linux_galoreis there a kde applet that allows you to have font themes, for example I have a laptop that is 1024x768 and an external wide screen monitor that 1650x1050, now I would like to have a "laptop" and "desktop" fonts setup that I can swap easily depending on what screen Im using, is there s simple fix for this11:34
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linux_galoreright now Im either looking at a nasty perl script or having two accounts or just editing the settings manually11:35
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linux_galorehaving no simple way to change my fonts in kde is a pain11:36
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kristian_hi there, i'm german - so sorry for my bad english... i want to install wine cvs under edgy but i havn't the packets: "x-window-system-dev" and "msttcorefonts", anybody knows where there are?11:36
makuseru!de | kristian11:37
ubotukristian: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:37
linux_galore!msttcorefonts11:37
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB11:37
kristian_hum, sorry :)11:37
sampanmakuseru  might be the libk3b2-mp3 package (the k3b mp3 decoder)?11:38
makuseruno prob11:38
makuseruthank you11:38
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Lord_Flasheartwhat is the command to start kde from the prompt?11:38
Lord_Flasheartstartkde?11:38
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jhutchinsmakuseru: Shouldn't need anything special just to burn them though, they're just files as far as K3B's concerned.11:39
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jhutchinsLord_Flasheart: Startx should default to kde.11:39
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jhutchinsLord_Flasheart: that's lowercase actually, startx.11:39
linux_galoreLord_Flasheart:   /usr/bin/startkde11:40
linux_galoreLord_Flasheart: or just use startx11:40
cpk1or 'sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start' should do it too11:40
gdiebelis there a command line tool that will give the encoding type of a given text file?11:40
Lord_Flashearthmm, it says 'fatal server error: no screens found'?11:40
linux_galoregdiebel: yes  file filename11:40
Lord_Flasheart'no matching device section for instance found... screens found, but non have a usable configuration11:42
linux_galoreLord_Flasheart: do you have an xserver session running already11:42
Lord_Flasheart'11:42
Lord_Flashearti don't think so, i just installed from the text based installer11:42
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Lord_Flasheartalthough it did show the splash screen?11:42
linux_galoreLord_Flasheart: aah, basically X isnt setup or not setup properly11:43
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Lord_Flasheartif i install 'kubuntu-desktop' will that work?11:43
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velleCould someone tell me if the apt package "kubuntu-desktop" is installed by default? I dont know what this package does, I just know that it has status "iU" (= Desired status: Installed & Status: uninstalled) if I use dpkg. I do not know how it got like this, and also, I can not fix it. Is this bad?11:43
linux_galoreLord_Flasheart: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:44
Lord_Flasheartlinux_galore: also, the x config file just has vesa as a driver, and not nv / nvidia, but i am not sure whether it will work with that as it is geforce go 7950 gtx sli?11:44
linux_galoreLord_Flasheart: run the setup program ^^11:45
velleWhen I tried to install the package "libgtk2.0-dev" I get an error because it can not find "kubuntu-desktop"11:45
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cpk1Lord_Flasheart: vesa will work with anything =P11:45
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Lord_Flasheartlinux-galore: no x server known for your video hardware?11:45
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frojnd!games11:46
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org11:46
linux_galoreLord_Flasheart: have you installed the nvidia driver11:46
linux_galore!nvidia11:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:46
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Lord_Flasheartlinux-galore: no, but i am not sure whether that driver yet supports my card. i tried installing it yesterday, and it didn't seem to work?11:48
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damaltorich gre euch11:48
Lord_Flasheartlinux-galore: also i don't think feisty liked the nvidia kernel?11:49
damaltorsagt mal11:49
damaltorhat irgend jemand erfahrung mot compiz?11:49
damaltoroh =) sry11:49
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damaltoranyone had some success with compiz?11:49
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Lord_Flasheartlinux-galore: i think that the 7950 is similar to the 7900 though, just faster?11:49
cpk17950 is 2 gpu's11:50
Frost^Is there a way to fully reinstall a metapackage?11:50
cpk1thats what i thought11:50
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Lord_Flasheartlinux-galore: if i select 'nv' can i select the 7900 driver somehow?11:50
cpk1Frost^: sudo aptitude reinstall nameofmetapackage?11:51
Frost^It only reinstalls the metapackage11:51
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Frost^And in essence, reinstalls nothing11:51
cpk1then aptitude purge nameofmetapackage? that will completely wipe everything i would think11:52
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bulletxthi, my kcontrol icons have disappeared after an update to kde 3.5.6, can someone tell me help me ?11:53
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cpk1i'm kind of dissapointed with aptitude that it cant figure out reinstall metapackage11:54
Frost^Well, a metapackage is pretty much a hack as far as I can tell.11:55
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Frost^Isn't it a blank package which simply depends on everything it installs?11:56
cpk1aptitude is pretty smart though11:56
frojndwhat's the difference between "aptutude" and "apt-get" ?11:57
connhi, has anyone here tried installing kubuntu feisty herd 4?11:57
Frost^There's something broken about my kde, I think. Java simply doesn't work in konqueror, and I get an error in the console saying "Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.kde.kjas.server.KJASSecurityManager not found"11:58
cpk1aptitude "remembers" what you do among other things11:58
Frost^Now I've no idea what I should reinstall in order to fix it, but it's somewhere in kdelibs, or at least it should be.11:58
Frost^But I can't reinstall the damn thing...11:58
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DonMCNHey can you guys tell me how to make Kubuntu more efficient and not take up as much ram and CPU? Like by turning off certain effects and things?11:59
cpk1for instance, with aptitude if you uninstalled a bunch of stuff with it and didnt purge them and now wish you had purged them you could do aptitude purge ~C and it would purge all uninstalled packages (ones that were uninstalled with aptitude only though)11:59
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cpk1you really only get the full use out of aptitude if you solely use aptitude12:00
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DonMCN!requirements12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
DonMCN!system12:01
matsavhalevcpk1: why is that?12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about system - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
cpk1because aptitude doesnt keep track of what other apt front-ends do12:01
BluesKajDonMCN, don't be fooled by the memory usage in ubuntu , most of it cached ; hence it only looks like i's being used up12:01
DonMCNno my computer is running much slower than it was with windows xp12:02
Frost^So I guess reinstalling a metapackage is impossible in my case?12:02
DonMCNOnce I switched from Windows XP, my computer and the programs run much slower.12:02
cpk1Frost^: you try purging it?12:02
frojndDonMCN: si your swap running?12:02
Frost^I'm scared..12:02
DonMCNTo tell you the truth I have no idea. I'm a big new with Kubuntu.12:02
frojndDonMCN: top in terminal12:03
cpk1purging and then installing is almost the same as reinstalling12:03
DonMCNTop in terminal?12:03
cpk1you could just try to uninstall it and then install it12:03
matsavhalevcpk1: is that a bug or a feature?12:03
frojndDonMCN: write "top" in konzole12:03
cpk1matsavhalev: huh?12:03
DonMCNok12:03
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Frost^cpk1: kdelibs is a meta package, and is used by other metapackages..12:04
frojndand there it should be12:04
frojndMem:    515888k total,   509572k used,     6316k free,    10572k buffers12:04
frojndSwap:  1004020k total,    18928k used,   985092k free,   183176k cached12:04
Frost^so I just got rid of a few metapackages12:04
DonMCNWhat do I look for?12:04
frojndI just paste it12:04
DonMCNok12:04
frojnd4 lines above12:04
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matsavhalevcpk1: that it doesnt keep track of other frontends12:04
frojndu cancle this with: "q"12:04
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fairmanHi, does anybody some experience with XvidCap?12:05
DonMCNit doesnt look exactly like that, it has different numbers but it appears swap is being used12:05
cpk1I imagine it doesnt keep track of the other ones because that would be difficult to do12:05
frojndDonMCN how many swap12:05
frojndDonMCN: how much*12:06
DonMCNSwap:  1124508k total,    26120k used,  1098388k free,   183948k cached12:06
cpk126mB? you are fine12:06
frojndhm12:06
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cpk1that means you arent digging into the swap12:06
DonMCNbut Kubuntu runs slowly12:06
frojndDonMCN: have u tryed to install driveres12:06
DonMCNmuch slower than Windows XP12:07
cpk1you will know when it starts to use swap12:07
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DonMCNI update Kubuntu and everything12:07
Frost^cpk1: In short, purging didn't help.12:07
DonMCNand my sound works, graphics and everything else i need to work but slowly12:07
en1gmacan someone in here give me some guidance on amd-64 edgy and my nforce4 mb with an nvidia geforce 8800 gtx? i cant get it to work at all with the live dvd (even safe graphics mode wont boot)12:08
en1gmacan i extract the edgy iso file and insert my own driver somehow12:08
en1gmaand then reburn the dvd12:08
bulletxtdoes it get stuck before loading kdm?12:09
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cpk1Frost^: you try reinstalling kdelibs-data and kdelibs4c2a since thats all kdelibs depends on12:09
en1gmait used to get stuck with dapper (not in safe graphics mode) now with edgy i just get stuck in console12:09
en1gmawell not stuck12:10
cpk1en1gma: iirc the safe graphics mode doesnt actually force vesa is why12:10
Frost^Shall I use the purge and reinstall trick again?12:10
en1gmacpk1 do you know if i can take apart the edgy iso and insert my own driver somehow12:10
cpk1ideally you would want  to use reinstall to (hopefully) keep your configs, unless you dont want the configs12:10
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en1gmaim not installing12:10
en1gmajust running the live dvd12:10
bulletxtenigma, try disabling acpi from boot12:11
DonMCNso what can I do to speed up Kubuntu? is that a way I can turn off effects and such and the pretty looks of Kubuntu to instead receive power12:11
bulletxtacpi=off12:11
cpk1en1gma: ok, but you might want to double check that it is actually forcing vesa12:11
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en1gmahow do i do that12:11

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