[12:13] <lu-bao> when i have to reinstall OS so that i dont need internet connection but that i can restore everything back after a fresh new install from DVD :)
[12:13] <yaccin> how can i get the butons on the sides of my mouse working?
[12:13] <cpk1> lu-bao: also I think there is a way to back up your cache to cd
[12:14] <uranther> i love how removing one package subsequently removes another 70 or so packages without telling me
[12:14] <uranther> now i have to reinstall all this shit over again
[12:14] <cpk1> lu-bao: to do what you are talking about all you would have to do is put your backup into the cache and tell aptitude to not fetch anything
[12:14] <lu-bao> cpk1, yes i can burn my archives folder but i will do that first time when it reaches a bigger size and when its patched at  best state and i have everything on it i need :)
[12:15] <cpk1> uranther: I am pretty sure all the APT frontends ask if you are sure before it does anything destructive
[12:15] <uranther> adept didn't just now
[12:15] <Mattias> !baghira
[12:15] <cpk1> adept does, you need to click show changes
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baghira - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:16] <yaccin> uranther: izt shows how much it delets in the status bar
[12:16] <yaccin> and theres always "preview changes"
[12:16] <Mattias> anyone knows how to configure baghira easy for kubuntu?
[12:16] <uranther> well i wasn't expecting it to do that
[12:16] <uranther> so i didn't preview changes
[12:16] <cpk1> lu-bao: basically though using dpkg is the hardway to do it =)
[12:16] <uranther> there's not cancel button either
[12:16] <uranther> and my openoffice still doesn't work
[12:16] <yaccin> !mouse
[12:16] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[12:16] <lu-bao> at most i would love to build my own DVD with all software i need and packages too so that i never need internet again for restore my system with all configures i wanted :)
[12:16] <lontra> anyone know if there are tastymenu debs available?
[12:16] <yaccin> i did one
[12:17] <yaccin> where can i host it?
[12:17] <lontra> for the lastest version?
[12:17] <yaccin> oh
[12:17] <yaccin> i dont know if it works
[12:17] <yaccin> it should
[12:17] <yaccin> tastymenu_0.6.5-2_i386.deb
[12:17] <uranther> i looked in the bugzilla
[12:17] <uranther> and it said remove any accessibility packages
[12:17] <lontra> yaccin: yup
[12:17] <uranther> and it will fix the openoffice problem
[12:18] <lontra> yaccin: you could email it? or send it to me over irc?
[12:18] <lu-bao> cpk1, yeah but i can write a script what dpkgs everything *gg* so that it installs everything on the fly then after installing the main dvd of ubuntu :) sure its not the latest patched version out of the internet since its a backup of cached installfiles but it restores everything how i need it without that i have to remember what i had installed before :)
[12:19] <yaccin> lol
[12:19] <cpk1> lu-bao: you dont even need a script, just put the debs into your cache and tell aptitude to not download anything...
[12:19] <yaccin> sending files crashes konversation ^^
[12:19] <yaccin> ah one moment
[12:19] <lu-bao> cpk1, never did that before could get hard :)
[12:21] <yaccin> lontra: ill upload it
[12:21] <lontra> ok
[12:21] <lu-bao> cause when ubuntu after 4 years is outdated (my version) i still can restore everything how it was so that i can use my notebook with all programs :) just want to get the safe way :)
[12:22] <matyasi> hello! could someone help me to set up wpa_supplicant? I tried to understand its man pages, but still seems not to work.
[12:22] <yaccin> lu-bao: ever heard of dist-upgrade?
[12:22] <bianconeri> Hello I am trying to install battleball (a game) using aptitude...it says that it will need to install the package but remove around 150 others on my system, most of them have no relation to battleball :S
[12:22] <yaccin> ^^
[12:22] <lu-bao> yaccin, mh um yes i did ^^"
[12:22] <yaccin> lontra: http://bennid.de/files/linux/debs/
[12:23] <lu-bao> and that it loves to break systems :D
[12:23] <lu-bao> your dist upgrade :P
[12:23] <lontra> yaccin: thanks :)
[12:23] <lontra> yaccin: i'll test it
[12:23] <yaccin> lu-bao: you sure youve done it right?
[12:23] <bianconeri> any idea what the problem may be?
[12:23] <lu-bao> yaccin, i am sure i never did that before but others did and they screamed like hell later *fg* lol
[12:24] <yaccin> 1. edit sources.list 2. update 3. dist-upgrade 4. install kubuntu-desktop 5. upgrade (repeat as often as neccessery) 6. force isntall other new packages 7. reboot
[12:24] <yaccin> worked for me every time
[12:24] <lu-bao> sooo um but look what happens later when kubuntu will not support my videochip anymore of my notebook i have to stay at my kubuntu version cause this one includes via cle266 drivers ^^"
[12:24] <yaccin> lontra: tell me if it works ^^
[12:24] <cpk1> bianconeri: i just installed battleball without any problems
[12:25] <cpk1> bianconeri: what does it want to remove and have you been using another package manager like adept?
[12:25] <yaccin> lu-bao: dont know ^^
[12:25] <lu-bao> yaccin, its just that i need this kubuntu version what supports my 3D onboard chip but i need ftp / browser and other clients too like irc client cause that i need to backup my cache :)
[12:26] <yaccin> well you are not forced to upgrade ^^
[12:26] <piro> is it possible to hotswap sata drives?
[12:26] <piro> does the libata do that now?
[12:26] <cpk1> lu-bao: most likely there will always be legacy drivers, but its not going to remove the drivers you currently have unless it has ones it can replace them with
[12:26] <lu-bao> yes but later i surely wont get packages again (for the old kubuntu then) what works at my laptop :/
[12:26] <yaccin> lontra: hmm i think it doesnt work, does it?
[12:26] <yaccin> lu-bao: thats true
[12:26] <yaccin> but as it works... :)
[12:27] <lu-bao> later maybe some browsers need newer dependencies i dont have inside my (then) old kubuntu version
[12:27] <j__> Can anyone tell me what the X server actually is? Is it KDE?
[12:27] <bianconeri> cpk1: I used apt-get before but mostly been doing aptitude (a no no?)....also used automatix2
[12:27] <lu-bao> and when kubuntu stops to support my via cle266 videochip i have to stay at this one :)
[12:27] <yaccin> !X
[12:27] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:27] <Admiral_Chicago> j__: no it's a graphic handler
[12:27] <uranther> !openoffice
[12:27] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[12:27] <Adydas> j__: are you using kubunut or ubuntu
[12:27] <j__> Kubuntu
[12:27] <Adydas> then its KDE based
[12:28] <j__> I need to install nvidia drivers for my old Geforce3 and it says I need to stop X
[12:28] <cpk1> bianconeri: well automatix is a no-no
[12:28] <lu-bao> okay i bet youre are right and i am just freakish paranoid X.x
[12:28] <j__> Thanks guys
[12:28] <bianconeri> ya I knew that, I just needed an operatable system fast ....I usually don't use it
[12:29] <lu-bao> i cant see that far into future cant say what is then maybe i got a newer laptop till then :>
[12:29] <trav> hello, how do i get past the email set up in evolution?
[12:30] <cpk1> bianconeri: if you are feeling adventurous you can let aptitude fix everything (copy down everything it removes) and then try installing those again, however once when I tried isntalling stuff with adept it freaked aptitude out and I let remove some 200 odd packages and it sorted everything out for me somehow...
[12:30] <lu-bao> how to check my version?
[12:30] <yaccin> !deb
[12:30] <bianconeri> hmm lemme share with you the output then maybe you could detect something i couldnt http://pastebin.ca/366861
[12:30] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[12:30] <cpk1> bianconeri: also, as far as I know automatix doesnt do anything that you cant do in 15 minutes
[12:31] <BluesKaj> automatix is easy but it also breaks pkgs
[12:31] <cpk1> lol my kde kicker just crashed...
[12:31] <lu-bao> at ubuntu i can doubleclick .deb files for install and at kubuntu i have to rightclick them?
[12:32] <bianconeri> cpk1 I have always been installing stuff on *ubuntu by myself...its just that other day spent a good 5 hours on configuring (low speed net)....only for me breaking the system 1 hour later...I got fed up and took the easy way out
[12:32] <carlos_> hola
[12:32] <BluesKaj> how does kwallet work ?
[12:32] <bianconeri> BluesKaj: can you be more specefic?
[12:32] <cpk1> everytime you want something to use a saved form you need to have it be open
[12:33] <bianconeri> It just saves your password
[12:33] <BluesKaj> i don't see how it replaces the need for pws
[12:33] <Adydas> it saves them not replace them
[12:33] <tuco> Hiyo all.
[12:33] <BluesKaj> still have to enter the pw
[12:33] <Adydas> for the wallet, not each program etc
[12:33] <cpk1> BluesKaj: because you only need one for kwallet and you can save many different passwords for different things
[12:34] <BluesKaj> not in a multiuser situation
[12:34] <bianconeri> cpk1 did you see my pastebin?
[12:34] <vrkhans> i having problem in partioning my hard dirve
[12:35] <yaccin> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[12:35] <yaccin> :/
[12:35] <Adydas> you need to install c++ or g++ i had that, forgot what one
[12:35] <Adydas> sudo apt-get install c++ cpp
[12:35] <yaccin> oh true
[12:35] <Adydas> its one of those 2 /3 combos
[12:35] <tuco> I need to install Flash Player for Firefox. I went into the guide but got lost.
[12:35] <cpk1> bianconeri: your right, those have nothing to do with battleball and it probably is confused because not all your stuff was installed with aptitude so it didnt mark or somesuch, aptitude is actually kind of complex, those are probably all in your cache though and you could probably reinstall them right away if you decide to let aptitude fix it all, otherwise apt-get probably wont complain about anything
[12:35] <Adydas> i think it was cpp
[12:35] <Adydas> yaccin:
[12:35] <yaccin> kdevelop doesnt have it as a dependency
[12:35] <yaccin> o.O
[12:35] <vrkhans> my hard drive already have partion but kbuntu installer is not showing all the other partions
[12:36] <lu-bao> yaccin,  do you know how i check out what version of kubuntu i have? :)
[12:36] <vrkhans> i  am in kbuntu running live cd
[12:36] <bianconeri> Recommended solution? Fix or Ignore ?:D
[12:36] <vrkhans> so if any one can help me in installing kbuntu
[12:36] <bianconeri> would ignoring cause complications in the future?
[12:36] <yaccin> lu-bao: ctrl + alt +f1 maybe... and then ctrl +alt +f7 ;)
[12:36] <cpk1> lu-bao: cat /proc/version
[12:37] <yaccin> ah
[12:37] <yaccin> ol
[12:37] <bianconeri> vrkhans: elaborate? what problems are you facing?
[12:37] <yaccin> ok
[12:37] <yaccin> :D
[12:37] <Adydas> lu-bao: cat /proc/version
[12:37] <vrkhans> i am trying to install linux
[12:37] <lu-bao> thx :)
[12:37] <cpk1> bianconeri: well obviously aptitude isnt going to miraculously forget =P
[12:37] <tuco> Somebody knows the best way to install Flash Player folks?
[12:37] <Adydas> i think thats what your after
[12:37] <lu-bao> ah thats awesome never met such a nice community before at linux :D
[12:37] <vrkhans> but the installer doest not showing all the partion
[12:37] <Adydas> tuco: apt-get install
[12:37] <Adydas> lu-bao: did it work? that what you want?
[12:38] <bianconeri> do you want to dual boot?
[12:38] <tuco> I have downloaded the tz file Adydas
[12:38] <yaccin> cpk1: dopenst shows the version of (k)ubuntu... only kernel etc
[12:38] <BluesKaj> vrkhans, what partitions do have on the drive ?
[12:38] <vrkhans> just one big chunk of 137gb
[12:38] <yaccin> you cant see if its edgy, hoary, feisty etc
[12:38] <Adydas> tuco: sounds like you should try an apt-get install before considering use of a gunzip file
[12:38] <tuco> Don't know what to do with it
[12:38] <BluesKaj> what is the format ?
[12:38] <bianconeri> And the 137 is originally what?
[12:38] <vrkhans> i already have windows installed and total 4 partion , which i can see in windows
[12:38] <cpk1> bianconeri: if it was me i would let aptitude do its thing (but copy into a text file everything its removing) and then go from there since most if not all the packages should be in the cache, but feel free to use apt-get
[12:39] <vrkhans> but not in linux
[12:39] <vrkhans> installer
[12:39] <lu-bao> linux version 2.6.17-11-generic (gcc version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (ubuntu 4.1.113ubuntu5)) (ubuntu 2.6.17-11.35-generic)  <-- is that newest kubuntu ? :)
[12:39] <tuco> Ah ok. But then I have to download the file from the konsole right?
[12:39] <Adydas> tuco: check out http://adydas.net/linux/ and go to the apt-get and repos page it should help you
[12:39] <yaccin> lontra: im making a new one right now
[12:40] <vrkhans> does there any other good partion manager in ubuntu which can show me all my other partion
[12:40] <bianconeri> most packages are Gnome anyways :P
[12:40] <Adydas> tuco: sounds excatly like what you need, just down the bottom you need to serch for flash and install flash
[12:40] <vrkhans> like mandrake
[12:40] <bianconeri> gparted
[12:40] <yaccin> vrkhans: qtparted
[12:40] <vrkhans> in mandrake it can read all my partion
[12:40] <yaccin> ah ubuntu
[12:40] <yaccin> ^^
[12:40] <bianconeri> vrkhans: gparted
[12:40] <cpk1> lu-bao: sorry its /proc/versio_signature
[12:40] <vrkhans> but can i install it
[12:40] <BluesKaj> GParted live cd is the partition editor to use
[12:40] <vrkhans> i am running the live cdd
[12:40] <cpk1> yaccin: yeah its /proc/version_signature
[12:41] <Adydas> pisser, i was close
[12:41] <lu-bao> cpk1, ubuntu 2.6.17-11.35-generic  <-- newest?
[12:41] <Adydas> its what im using
[12:41] <cpk1> lu-bao: sorry for typo, cat /proc/version_signature will tell you the ubuntu release
[12:41] <BluesKaj> yes vrkhans , but what kind of partitions do you have ?
[12:41] <cpk1> oh wait no it wont
[12:41] <cpk1> damn
[12:41] <cpk1> i forget where it hides =(
[12:41] <Adydas> tuco: how you getting on?
[12:41] <lu-bao> cpk1, ah dont worry no problem typos are naturally :)
[12:41] <bianconeri> Ok then another problem but more gory.... I am running Kubuntu dapper and I have an Acer F-19 screen and a samsung 40 HD LCD, and I wanna run them both together. So I hooked up the LCD using s-video the boot up process appears, but as soon as X launches it goes bezerk....
[12:42] <yaccin> cpk1: which also only shows kernel version ^^
[12:42] <stdin> cpk1: lsb_release -a
[12:42] <yaccin> yaccin@Hephaistos:~$ cat /proc/version_signature
[12:42] <yaccin> Ubuntu 2.6.20-8.14-generic
[12:42] <cpk1> stdin: thanks T.T
[12:42] <stdin> cpk1: :-)
[12:42] <lu-bao> cpk1, okay i downloaded kubuntu dvd 2days ago and updated it today evening but do i have newest kubuntu version ? ^^" or stable old one?
[12:42] <yaccin> ah
[12:42] <cpk1> it SHOULD be in proc if you're asking me...
[12:42] <yaccin> this is nice
[12:42] <vrkhans> how i can mount my hard disk
[12:42] <yaccin> :D
[12:42] <vrkhans> in linux
[12:42] <tuco> TRying to find the part you are talking about
[12:43] <vrkhans> to see al the partions
[12:43] <cpk1> lu-bao: yes its the newest kernel for edgy
[12:44] <lu-bao> cpk1, so i am up to date with everything? :)
[12:44] <BluesKaj> vrkhans, are you reading any of the questions or suggestions ppl are giving you ?
[12:44] <cpk1> your kernel is up to date
[12:44] <yaccin> lontra: i have a working package
[12:44] <yaccin> uploading now
[12:44] <lu-bao> um okay ^^
[12:44] <bianconeri> Any suggestions for my dual monitor problem?
[12:45] <Adydas> Dual monitor tastic
[12:45] <vrkhans> sorry
[12:45] <Adydas> what vid card you got
[12:45] <vrkhans> i am looking something else
[12:45] <Adydas> bianconeri: what vid card
[12:46] <vrkhans> please address my id when any of you are talking to me
[12:46] <lu-bao> cpk1, thank you for your help :)
[12:46] <vrkhans> because this the first time i am using irc
[12:46] <tuco> damn can't seem to find the info Adydas
[12:46] <bianconeri> Adydas: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)
[12:46] <Adydas> cool
[12:47] <Adydas> try adding this..
[12:47] <BluesKaj> we are vrkhans , but you arent reading or responding , all you do is ask the same question
[12:47] <cpk1> can you use s-video and 15pin out at the same time?
[12:47] <Adydas> yes
[12:47] <Adydas> belive so
[12:47] <vrkhans> blueskaj i am confuse
[12:47] <Adydas> err
[12:48] <vrkhans> i am trying to figure out what you guys are saying
[12:48] <Adydas> bianconeri: in your xorg.conf you need to add some lines
[12:48] <Adydas> it got me cloned out put
[12:48] <Adydas> its a start
[12:48] <BluesKaj> vrkhans, what partitions can you see on the hard drive
[12:48] <vrkhans> but please explain me in detail
[12:48] <yaccin> lontra: http://bennid.de/files/linux/debs/kubuntu/feisty/
[12:48] <bianconeri> I want cloned :)
[12:48] <vrkhans> in windows or in here
[12:48] <BluesKaj> anywhere
[12:48] <tuco> Adydas do I have to add a repository at all?
[12:49] <vrkhans> in windows i have four partions
[12:49] <vrkhans> but over here installer just show one partion of 137gb
[12:49] <vrkhans> no seprate partions
[12:49] <Adydas> tuco: remove the #'s from the deb lines
[12:50] <flaccid> !webcam
[12:50] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:50] <tuco> I am lost now :-( arf!
[12:50] <lu-bao> tuco, why?
[12:50] <tuco> I did sudo apt-get update
[12:50] <vrkhans> i tried mandrake its installer can read and show all the partions
[12:50] <BluesKaj> !partitions
[12:50] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:50] <Adydas> did you do the repos first in sources.list
[12:50] <bianconeri> Adydas: what line should I add?
[12:50] <tuco> downloaded the tz file onto the desktop
[12:50] <Adydas> start at the start of that file
[12:51] <Adydas> ignore the GZ file
[12:51] <tuco> but don't know what to do next!
[12:51] <tuco> Ah
[12:51] <Adydas> it is nothing to do with it, and the worste way to get it done
[12:51] <tuco> Oooops
[12:51] <Adydas> starting a fresh
[12:51] <tuco> ok
[12:51] <Adydas> follow from the start of here
[12:51] <Adydas> #deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[12:51] <Adydas> deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[12:51] <Adydas> err
[12:51] <Adydas> here http://adydas.net/linux/repos.html
[12:51] <vrkhans> in kubuntu
[12:51] <Adydas> it will get you to open your apt sources, remove some #s ( like above )
[12:51] <vrkhans> what i should do
[12:52] <Adydas> apt-get update
[12:52] <Adydas> then allow you to use apt-get to install the flash
[12:52] <tuco> Ok so first I have to add the repositories right?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> !partitons > vrkhans
[12:52] <Adydas> tuco:  Bingo
[12:52] <tuco> I have to be in root too?
[12:52] <Adydas> by deleating the #'s from the start of the lines that look like
[12:53] <cpk1> vrkhans: how many partitions does sudo fdisk -l say you have?
[12:53] <Adydas> tuco: follow the commands in that website
[12:53] <Adydas> it uses root when needed, not when not needed
[12:53] <stdin> !repos
[12:53] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:53] <Adydas> it starts Firstly open your apt get sources file by running the following command
[12:53] <Adydas> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:53] <Adydas> there
[12:54] <Adydas> theres a picture, it should open a window like my picture you see it?
[12:55] <frojnd> can xubuntu be installed as kubuntu? via live cd and desktop install?
[12:55] <tuco> Ok in sources list now...
[12:55] <Adydas> tuco: now follow the rest of the website
[12:55] <stdin> frojnd: yeah, you can also install it along side kubuntu
[12:56] <frojnd> stdin: thx
[12:56] <Adydas> tuco:  use a bit of spot the difference skills with the 2 large grey boxes near the start
[12:57] <stdin> frojnd: http://www.xubuntu.org/get <- you can get the desktop ISO from here
[12:59] <tuco> Now I need to install
[12:59] <Adydas> u done the update?
[12:59] <tuco> yes master
[01:00] <Adydas> nice work.. now use the part about apt-cache to find what you need
[01:00] <Adydas> i belive apt-cache search flash should be a good start
[01:01] <Adydas> if your using mozilla libflash-mozplugin - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin looks to be the correct package
[01:01] <tuco> there is this: flashplayer-mozilla - Macromedia Flash Player
[01:02] <Adydas> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[01:02] <Adydas> see if it does the trick
[01:02] <vrkhans> ok no i have that qtparted running but still it doesnt show me all the other partions
[01:02] <stdin> if you want to view flash above flash 7 you'll need flashplugin-nonfree
[01:02] <Adydas> ah wicked
[01:02] <Adydas> ther eyou go tuco
[01:02] <stdin> (version 7)
[01:03] <stdin> from multiverse
[01:03] <tuco> Adydas you trickster hey :-)
[01:03] <vrkhans> it is showing the whole drive but no the individual partions which i made in windows
[01:03] <tuco> I need version 8 or above
[01:04] <stdin> tuco: flash (from adobe) version 9 is available from edgy-backports in multiverse, the package is flashplugin-nonfree
[01:04] <stdin> (also dapper-backports afaik)
[01:05] <stdin> there is no version 8 for linux tho, and it's only for x86, not 64bit or power-pc
[01:05] <vrkhans> just showning the whole 178gb unallocated
[01:07] <tuco> I got this: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another p            rocess
[01:08] <frojnd> that's funny where can I add new connection (DSL)
[01:08] <stdin> tuco: try "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"
[01:09] <tuco> ok killed
[01:09] <vrkhans> what kind of partion manager mandrake use
[01:09] <vrkhans> ?
[01:10] <stdin> vrkhans: no idea, but probably it uses parted as a backend, like gparted
[01:11] <tuco> I need to kill adept manager now
[01:11] <vrkhans> actually i had installed mandrake 8 on my system now in kubuntu it is not showing any partion what madrake is installed
[01:11] <tuco> says don't have permission
[01:12] <stdin> tuco: use sudo
[01:12] <stdin> tuco: and do: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:13] <slyfox> Who here uses Calendar a lot from Kontact - I have a few question about it ?
[01:13] <vrkhans> is it possible i can use mandrake and partion my hard drive and use the same to install kubuntu
[01:13] <vrkhans> use mandrake to partion
[01:13] <tuco> still stuck with adept :-(
[01:14] <stdin> vrkhans: yeah, as long as you don't install after the partitioning
[01:14] <vrkhans> ok but can i see those partion in kubuntu
[01:15] <vrkhans> because i cant see my windows partion in kubuntu
[01:15] <tuco> I guess I am stopping for tonight. Need some sleep...Kubuntu has taken me 3 full days, dangerously addictive. And oh wait I can see some windows logo out of sight...Hasta la Vista baby!
[01:16] <stdin> vrkhans: I can't think of any reason why you shouldn't see the partitions in kubuntu
[01:16] <vrkhans> but i can see my windows partion currently
[01:16] <vrkhans> i have windows already installed
[01:16] <vrkhans> i cant
[01:16] <tuco> Thanks folks for your kind help as usual :-) Thumbs up and I see you soon.
[01:17] <stdin> later tuco :)
[01:17] <vrkhans> I will be back
[01:17] <tuco> Cheerios guys. Good day or good night.
[01:23] <bonbonthejon> is anyone here trying feisty
[01:23] <yaccin> <<
[01:23] <yaccin> feisty <3
[01:23] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: did you upgrade from edgy? or fresh install?
[01:23] <yaccin> fresh isntall
[01:23] <yaccin> new pc
[01:24] <yaccin> well
[01:24] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: hmm
[01:24] <yaccin> not complete new pc
[01:24] <yaccin> but most parts of it
[01:24] <yaccin> :D
[01:24] <yaccin> whats the problem with upgrade?
[01:24] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: I remember having problems going dapper->edgy, I am afraid to do edgy-->feisty
[01:24] <yaccin> hmm
[01:25] <yaccin> 1. edit sources.list 2. update 3. dist-upgrade 4. install kubuntu-desktop 5. upgrade (repeat as often as neccessery) 6. force isntall other new packages 7. reboot
[01:25] <yaccin> shiuld work
[01:25] <yaccin> ^^
[01:25] <yaccin> *should
[01:25] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: yeah, but going from dapper X got messed up and I reinstalled to fix the problems
[01:26] <yaccin> dapper > edgy was no problem for me
[01:26] <yaccin> did it like i described above
[01:26] <yaccin> :/
[01:26] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: yeah. so in sources.list I just change all the edgy's to feisty's?
[01:26] <yaccin> i think so
[01:27] <yaccin> use replace funkction in kate :)
[01:27] <stdin> feisty is still an alpha, it's not reccommended to upgrade to feisty yet
[01:27] <stdin> (just a note)
[01:28] <yaccin> true true
[01:28] <yaccin> but runs stable here :)
[01:28] <stdin> yeah, I run it too
[01:29] <bonbonthejon> stdin: I know, but I dont mind trying it
[01:29] <stdin> but it's just a warning, don't expect it to be stable, it isn't
[01:29] <bonbonthejon> stdin: what isnt stable for you?
[01:30] <stdin> nothing in particular, but feisty isn't classed as stable, it's in alpha stage atm, it could break at ant time
[01:30] <stdin> some users can't start X for example
[01:31] <stdin> but if you want to test it, please do, we need testers
[01:31] <bonbonthejon> stdin: I've done some of the past releases before they went stable
[01:31] <bonbonthejon> stdin: I guess ill try it
[01:31] <yaccin> good luck :)
[01:32] <yaccin> i love the new kopete :)
[01:32] <yaccin> skinnable contact-list \o/
[01:32] <chavo> I'm running feisty here, did the upgrade dapper -> edgy -> fesity no problem
[01:32] <stdin> I always run the devel release, to test it and report bugs, so If you feel you want to test it, go ahead. testers are welcome
[01:32] <crousti> Hello !
[01:33] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: i think it tried that out, there was a patch on kde-look that did something similar, maybe they included it into kopete
[01:33] <bonbonthejon> hi crousti
[01:33] <yaccin> yes aparrently they did ^^
[01:33] <yaccin> ive also seen that patch
[01:33] <yaccin> but i wasnt able to include it by myself
[01:33] <yaccin> and there were no packages for ubuntu :(
[01:34] <bonbonthejon> yaccin: you had to patch the kopete source code, then compile
[01:34] <atool> So, i can't for the life of me get kdm to launch at boot even though /etc/X11/default-siplay-manager is set
[01:34] <yaccin> i know
[01:34] <stdin> bonbonthejon: kde 3.5.6 is default in feisty, lots of bug fixes there, you'll like it :)
[01:34] <yaccin> didnt work
[01:34] <yaccin> anyways
[01:34] <yaccin> now i dont have to ^^
[01:34] <bonbonthejon> stdin: I got 3.5.6 from kubuntu.org
[01:34] <yaccin> aww just another kopete-update ^^
[01:35] <stdin> bonbonthejon: yeah, but it's default in feisty, and releases for feisty come out *before* they do for edgy :)
[01:35] <bonbonthejon> \me is downloading the packages now
[01:35] <bonbonthejon> there we go
[01:35] <yaccin> http://bennid.de/files/linux/debs/kubuntu/feisty/
[01:35] <yaccin> :)
[01:36] <atool> brings me to tty at login each reboot, though i can start kdm no problem if i init.d it... any ideas?
[01:37] <vrkhans> i am back
[01:37] <vrkhans> any solution
[01:37] <vrkhans> how i can see all my partion
[01:38] <stdin> atool: are the links in /etc/rc2.d for kdm, eg: /etc/rc2.d/S99kdm ?
[01:39] <atool> stdin: no they're not... what's the best way to add them? manually?
[01:41] <vrkhans> how i can mount my windows partions
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> !partions
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> !partion
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> !mount
[01:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:42] <stdin> atool: I think "sudo update-rc.d -n kdm multiuser 99 01" is the best way
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> !windows
[01:42] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:42] <stdin> atool: opps, take the "-n" out, so "sudo update-rc.d kdm multiuser 99 01"
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> !ntfs | vrkhans
[01:43] <ubotu> vrkhans: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:44] <atool> stdin: looks like it's already in rc1, not rc2 (sorry just looked in rc2)...any other ideas?
[01:45] <atool> stdin: K01kdm -> ../init.d/kdm
[01:46] <atool> stdin: oddly gdm is in rc1 and rc2
[01:46] <stdin> atool: you need them in rc2.d, that's the default run level, if update-rc.d doesn't work (with the -f flag) you can just make the links "cd /etc/rc2.d && sudo ln -s ../init.d/kdm S99KDM"
[01:47] <stdin> atool: if /etc/X11/default-display-manager says to use KDM, GDM won't start
[01:47] <stdin> atool: but try "sudo update-rc.d -f kdm multiuser 99 01" forst
[01:48] <atool> stdin: gives the error/warning "System startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm already exist."
[01:48] <atool> stdin: should it be 99 02?
[01:48] <Huey> my kde desktop background is now stuck showing one image, even when i try to change it through kcontrol
[01:49] <Huey> what setting file do i need to edit/delete to unlock the desktop background?
[01:49] <stdin> atool: it should be 99 (so it's starts last) and 01 (so it stops first)
[01:49] <stdin> atool: so just try making the link yourself, with "cd /etc/rc2.d && sudo ln -s ../init.d/kdm S99kdm"
[01:49] <dx11101> howcome in kde i can only get sound out of one program at a time?
[01:50] <atool> stdin: k thanks, i'll give that a try, brb.
[01:51] <stdin> Huey: what about when you change it by right-clicking on the desktop and choosing "Configure Desktop" ?
[01:51] <Venona> I am not sure if this is a feisty problem or kubuntu. But today i did a dist-upgrade and now after logging out I cant get the login box ... All i see is a "black and white snowy" screen. I tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver and I still get the same outcome. I dont have Beryl installed. I have a radeon card.
[01:51] <stdin> Venona: are you running feisty, or edgy/dapper ?
[01:52] <Venona> feisty
[01:52] <stdin> Venona: ask in #ubuntu+1 or (if no one answers) in #kubuntu-devel
[01:53] <stdin> feisty is still alpha, and #kubuntu is for the stable versions
[01:53] <Venona> k
[01:54] <atool> stdin: thanks a lot man, that worked... it was driving me crazy
[01:54] <Huey> stdin: yes, that's what i mean. I've tried No picture and Picture (selecting a different picture), but my original image is still being displayed
[01:54] <Huey> stdin: and this survives logins and reboots
[01:55] <stdin> atool: no problem, glad it works :)
[01:55] <atool> later all... thanks for the quick help :)
[01:55] <stdin> Huey: that's strange indeed
[01:56] <Huey> stdin: i'm thinking that removing my .kde directory might work, but that seems drastic; i'm hoping to narrow it down a little more
[01:57] <stdin> Huey: I don't know what would cause that, (and I doubt anyone here knows) so try asking in #kde before taking "drastic" measures
[01:59] <stdin> Huey: HINT: try changing the line "Wallpaper=...." in ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc
[01:59] <uranther> can anyone help me with openoffice? i'm on kubuntu dapper drake and openoffice crashes everytime i start it, in the midst of loading
[02:00] <userundefined> uranther: start it from the command line so it'll tell you what errors are making it crash
[02:00] <uranther> it doesn't give me any errors.. i'm running it from the console
[02:01] <uranther> it gets to about 35% loading then it stops, and says it will recover any files that were opened
[02:01] <uranther> with no errors
[02:01] <drkm> I am trying to upload a directory which has other directories with files in them.. is there a way I can upload it via ftp/ncftp which will automatically create the right directories for me?
[02:02] <stdin> drkm: konqueror won't do that for you ?
[02:03] <drkm> never used it for ftp
[02:03] <drkm> I'll try
[02:03] <surgy> uranther: whats the command you give to run office?
[02:03] <stdin> it's a nice app for ftp
[02:04] <stdin> drkm: in koqueror, just copy the dir you want, and paste to the ftp server, it should copy all the sub-dirs
[02:04] <uranther> surgy: ooffice, oodraw, whatever, none of them work
[02:04] <drkm> ok cool thanks
[02:04] <stdin> konqu is a very useful app :)
[02:04] <userundefined> <3 konqueror
[02:05] <surgy> uranther..... if it gives no errors i cant help much, maybe remove the package and reinstall it?
[02:05] <stdin> <3 koqueror & konversation (SVN version)
[02:05] <uranther> surgy: tried that many times
[02:06] <surgy> stdin: any ideas about uranther's problem?
[02:06] <uranther> the bugzilla mentions it might be because of accessibility packages installed, but i uninstalled of those and still doesn't work
[02:06] <uranther> i've also removed ~/.openoffice
[02:07] <stdin> surgy, uranther: no, not really, but there is a channel for OpenOffice: #openoffice.org it may be the next place to ask
[02:07] <uranther> tried them
[02:07] <uranther> not much more help
[02:07] <uranther> plus they're not very active :P
[02:08] <stdin> it also may be a Java problem, as OOo depends heavily on that
[02:09] <uranther> ok lemme try that
[02:09] <uranther> i also tried installing mozilla because i know it depends on that for some reason too
[02:11] <stdin> maybe it needs the gecko stuff
[02:11] <uranther> i'll install the blackdown java sdk
[02:11] <stdin> sun java may be better
[02:12] <uranther> oh :|
[02:18] <uranther> are there hardware recommendations for kubuntu? :P
[02:18] <uranther> i think my computer is lacking
[02:19] <uranther> like, err, wtf, where did adept go? it never opened
[02:20] <stdin> I think, 192MB RAM and 1GHz CPU is recommended
[02:20] <stdin> (don't quote me tho)
[02:21] <uranther> oh i have 512mb and 1700+ (1.4ghz)
[02:21] <uranther> but crap video card
[02:21] <stdin> that's fine for kde
[02:21] <uranther> i run a lot of programs
[02:22] <uranther> but i have 158mb ram free so i guess it's cool
[02:22] <stdin> I have 512MB and 1.8GHz with an intel GPU, KDE runs fine, make sure you have about 1GB of swap tho
[02:23] <uranther> 815mb swap
[02:23] <uranther> i didn't make that up o_O
[02:23] <stdin> should be ok, but 1GB swap is reccommended anyway
[02:23] <uranther> i dunno maybe i did, because swap is supposed to be at least 1.5x your ram size
[02:24] <stdin> uranther: it's at most 1.5 * ram, the more ram, the less swap you neeed
[02:25] <uranther> oh :/
[02:26] <uranther> maybe i should install openoffice from the package on their website?
[02:26] <uranther> seems like i tried that before though...
[02:26] <esaym> my keyboard has some shortcut keys, anyone know how to coonfigure them?
[02:27] <esaym> the volume and email ones work, but the internet one doesnt
[02:27] <stdin> !shortcut
[02:27] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[02:27] <stdin> keytouch may be what you want
[02:28] <stdin> !info keytouch edgy
[02:29] <ubotu> keytouch: A program to configure the extra function keys of the keyboard. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 412 kB, installed size 1824 kB
[02:29] <tjz> daskreech u here?
[02:30] <esaym> I will look into keytouch
[02:34] <tjz> anyone know of any good p2p programs?
[02:35] <Adydaz> Ktorrent for bit torrents allright
[02:35] <Adydaz> azuerus is better i belive..
[02:36] <uranther> ktorrent is very good
[02:36] <tjz> kool
[02:36] <uranther> hey, how the hell do i get past this license crap with sun java
[02:36] <stdin> !p2p
[02:36] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[02:37] <uranther> i already accepted the license but now it wants me to hit ok
[02:37] <uranther> and enter doesn't work
[02:37] <uranther> !
[02:37] <stdin> uranther: use apt-get, not adept
[02:37] <NightBird> yeah, I like it when it does that.. >_>
[02:38] <stdin> ... fixed in next release
[02:43] <Mena> Jucato, hi
[02:43] <uranther> ok still doesn't work with sun java6 bin jdk and all that jazz
[02:44] <tjz> how the heck do u get flash player to install?
[02:44] <stdin> !java9
[02:44] <uranther> flashplugin-nonfree
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <Mena> !sun-java
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <tjz> ...huh
[02:45] <Mena> stdin, do you use karamba
[02:45] <tjz> missed that window closed
[02:45] <stdin> Mena: nope
[02:45] <Mena> stdin,ok
[02:45] <uranther> tjz, install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:45] <stdin> !flash9 | tjz
[02:45] <ubotu> tjz: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[02:46] <tjz> ok got it
[02:48] <tjz> keeps breaking
[02:52] <allan>  /list SQL injection
[02:53] <tjz> daskreech?
[02:54] <larson9999> how is the turion 64 and linux? do they play nice?
[03:02] <Rizada> boa noite pessoal
[03:03] <xsacha> hey, if i have a computer getting the internet via a wireless a card.. and then i connect my kubuntu machine to it via ethernet -- can i get the internet on that kubuntu machine?
[03:04] <franklin> yes,  xsacha
[03:04] <franklin> separate interfaces
[03:05] <franklin> wired is usually eth0 and wireless is eth1
[03:06] <CpuWhiz> how do i reverse what the settings from Monitor & Display has done to my resolution
[03:06] <xsacha> hmm so eth0 should be getting the internet from the other computers eth1? just doesnt seem to be working
[03:07] <franklin> xsacha... what are you trying to do?
[03:07] <tjz> ok i have another question how do i get my wireless card to work on kubuntu?
[03:07] <franklin> i may have misunderxtood you
[03:07] <xsacha> get the internet on the machine that doesnt have the wireless card by connecting, via ethernet, to the comp that does
[03:08] <xsacha> i can send files over LAN with the ethernet but dont seem to have the internet
[03:09] <franklin> the machine that gets the internet would need to be configured as a router
[03:09] <xsacha> oh ok
[03:09] <Rizada> alguem ai do Brasil ?
[03:09] <franklin> so the other machine can use it to connect out
[03:09] <xsacha> ill find out how to configure it as a router
[03:10] <tjz> my wireless wont connect and im sittin next to tha router
[03:10] <franklin> means nothing... you need to configure your wireless manually
[03:10] <tjz> ok how?
[03:11] <franklin> tjz i'. going to ask you to open up a terminal window
[03:11] <tjz> k
[03:11] <franklin> open up 2 actaully
[03:11] <tjz> done
[03:11] <franklin> using kubuntu, right?
[03:12] <tjz> yea
[03:12] <franklin> what kind of wap do you have?
[03:12] <franklin> linksys?
[03:12] <franklin> d-link?
[03:12] <tjz> link sys
[03:12] <tjz> linksys
[03:12] <flaccid> oh ap
[03:12] <franklin> ok, i know those
[03:12] <tjz> kool
[03:12] <stdin> !bt | Rizada
[03:12] <franklin> have you set up the wap yet
[03:12] <stdin> !br | Rizada
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <ubotu> Rizada: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:13] <tjz> yea
[03:13] <franklin> are you using WEP or WPA?
[03:13] <franklin> that's encryption
[03:13] <tjz> ...?  not sure
[03:13] <franklin> check,,, it makes a difference to kubuntu
[03:14] <franklin> it will not connect unless we can tell it what to use
[03:14] <tjz> i got one onther laptop on tha same router but using windows
[03:14] <franklin> how old is the router
[03:14] <tjz> its not private
[03:14] <tjz> not that old
[03:14] <tjz> fair
[03:15] <franklin> log onto the router and see under wireless if you are running WEP or WPA
[03:15] <franklin> we need to know
[03:15] <jmichaelx> !xscreensavers
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xscreensavers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:16] <tjz> wut iz wep?
[03:16] <franklin> wired equivalency protocol
[03:16] <tjz> and wpa
[03:16] <franklin> it basically protects your wireless session about as well as being plaugged in with ethernet
[03:16] <Jin> Need some quick help, trying to install kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop results in a blank screen when X starts, I fixed this once before but I forget how, can anyone help me out?
[03:17] <flaccid> don't use wep anymore
[03:17] <flaccid> its crackable
[03:17] <franklin> use wpa... wi-fi protected access
[03:17] <tjz> wpa
[03:17] <tjz> oh crap my connection is WEP
[03:17] <tjz> mybad
[03:17] <franklin> you can change it to wpa
[03:18] <jmichaelx> Jin: what kind of video card do you have?
[03:18] <franklin> if you can, do so
[03:18] <flaccid> franklin: and yeah only radius/802.1x is quiv to plugged in ethernet
[03:18] <tjz> how
[03:18] <Jin> ATI Radion Mobility X700, I'm installing on an Acer Travelmate 8100
[03:18] <Jin> Radeon*
[03:18] <franklin> there should be a chouce there
[03:18] <tjz> where?
[03:18] <franklin> choice
[03:18] <jmichaelx> Jin: are you able to get the command line via ctrl+alt+F1?
[03:19] <franklin> under wireless or security in the router configs
[03:19] <Jin> jmichaelx, let me try
[03:19] <tjz> ok its changed
[03:19] <franklin> ok, set a new password for wpa
[03:19] <franklin> dont tell me
[03:19] <tjz> ok
[03:19] <franklin> write it down, you'll need it in a few mintues
[03:20] <tjz> ok done
[03:20] <franklin> make sure you choose wpa-psk
[03:20] <Jin> you guys doing like, a wireless-style card trick?
[03:20] <tjz> ok
[03:20] <franklin> done?
[03:20] <tjz> yea
[03:20] <tom__> hello
[03:20] <franklin> ok... go to you terminal window
[03:20] <franklin> either one
[03:20] <tjz> k
[03:21] <franklin> we have 2 open right?
[03:21] <tjz> yea
[03:21] <tjz> on desktp 3 and 4
[03:21] <franklin> use the terminal to open up the following file: /etc/network/interfaces
[03:22] <tom__> #ubuntu
[03:22] <tjz> permision denied
[03:22] <franklin> tjz... use kate....
[03:22] <tjz> ?
[03:22] <franklin> do the following in the terminal window: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[03:23] <franklin> kate is a text editor
[03:23] <Jin> jmichaelx, alright I'm at a terminal
[03:23] <tjz> ok got  it up
[03:24] <franklin> ok... are you familiar with commenting things out in linux?
[03:24] <tjz> not really im new to tha system
[03:24] <jay> kiba-dock refuses to hide after clicking on any launcher
[03:24] <franklin> the ound symbol # is used to comment out lines in files
[03:24] <franklin> er, pound symbol
[03:24] <franklin> this thing: #
[03:24] <tjz> im awesome in windows but here still readin
[03:24] <jmichaelx> Jin: ok... try using the 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'      and when you run that, select the 'radeon' driver (or 'ati' if you cannot find 'radeon')
[03:25] <tjz> yea
[03:25] <tjz> #
[03:25] <tjz> ok
[03:25] <franklin> ok.
[03:26] <franklin> comment out everything under the section auto eth2
[03:26] <tjz> ok one sec
[03:26] <franklin> like this: #auto eth2
[03:26] <tjz> #iface eth2 inet dhcp
[03:27] <franklin> and then ditto for the iface line beneath it
[03:27] <tjz> like this] 
[03:27] <franklin> yes...good
[03:28] <tjz> k
[03:28] <franklin> what does you file look like now? what's commented out?
[03:28] <tjz> the one                 auto ath0
[03:29] <tjz> do i comment it tp
[03:29] <tjz> to*] 
[03:29] <franklin> yes
[03:29] <tjz> ok and the line beneth it
[03:29] <franklin> as well as auto wlan0
[03:29] <tjz> ok
[03:29] <ccherrett> I have a wireless card in my laptop. When I boot and run ifdown then ifup it configures and runs. How can I get it to do this automatically?
[03:29] <tjz> ok done
[03:30] <franklin> are eth1 and eth0 uncommented as well as auto lo
[03:30] <franklin> leave those uncommented
[03:30] <tjz> yeq
[03:30] <tjz> yea*
[03:31] <Jin> jmichaelx, I went through the reconfigure and tried to restart X, still no luck
[03:31] <franklin> ok, under auto eth1, what does it say
[03:31] <jmichaelx> Jin: you may have to reboot
[03:31] <franklin> dont read any passwords into here
[03:31] <jmichaelx> sudo shutdown -r now
[03:31] <Jin> jmichaelx, that wouldn't work though since I'm on the livecd though?
[03:31] <Jin> I think it's a multi-monitor problem, I just forget how to fix it, something about MonitorLayout I think...
[03:31] <tjz> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[03:31] <jmichaelx> Jin: AHHH... no, that would not work
[03:32] <tjz> that
[03:32] <franklin> that's it?
[03:32] <jmichaelx> Jin: i thought you had installed kubuntu
[03:32] <tjz> yea
[03:32] <Jin> something about VDMS I THINK
[03:32] <franklin> do you know what your ssid is?
[03:32] <tjz> no
[03:32] <Jin> not completely sure, I forget how I fixed this a year ago
[03:33] <franklin> its the wireless access point service set identifier
[03:33] <piro> has anyone had any luck hot swapping sata drives?
[03:33] <franklin> tjz
[03:34] <tjz> yea
[03:34] <franklin> you got your ssid?
[03:34] <franklin> it's not linksys, is it?
[03:34] <jmichaelx> Jin: i would have expected it to detect your video card, but in the event it did not, there is likely some sort of command you need to type in at the boot prompt... maybe something like xvesa=radeon or something similar
[03:34] <tjz> no
[03:34] <franklin> good
[03:34] <tjz> prolly
[03:34] <tjz> noone has really messed with it
[03:34] <franklin> change it to something else
[03:35] <tjz> ok
[03:35] <tjz> done
[03:35] <franklin> call it Airstrip or something
[03:35] <tjz> ok got it
[03:35] <franklin> you made the chage on the router?
[03:35] <tjz> crap wrong window how do i change it?
[03:35] <franklin> on the router under wireless settings
[03:36] <franklin> SSID name
[03:36] <Jin> jmichaelx, lspci detects it, and so does the reconfigure
[03:36] <franklin> ssid is service set ID
[03:36] <franklin> it's just a name for the wireless router
[03:36] <tjz> ok i got it
[03:36] <tjz> dione
[03:36] <franklin> the radio will broadcast that name
[03:36] <franklin> ok
[03:36] <tjz> done*
[03:36] <jmichaelx> Jin: i am not sure what to say at this point.... maybe playing with your resolution would help
[03:37] <franklin> back to the interfaces file
[03:37] <franklin> in kate
[03:37] <tjz> yea
[03:37] <franklin> under the section auto eth1, and under the iface line, add the following... each on it's own line
[03:37] <tjz> ok
[03:38] <franklin> wpa-ssid "your-ssid-name" (no quotes)
[03:38] <tjz> wpa-ssid    thats it
[03:39] <franklin> there's more
[03:39] <tjz> ok onesec
[03:39] <franklin> so that line should look like this: wpa-ssid Airstrip
[03:39] <franklin> cool?
[03:40] <franklin> next line.... ready?
[03:40] <franklin> under the last one...
[03:40] <tjz> yea
[03:40] <tjz> yea
[03:40] <franklin> wpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK
[03:40] <franklin> one more line....
[03:41] <tjz> ok
[03:41] <franklin> wpa-passphrase "your-password-for-the-router" (i asked you to write it ealier)
[03:41] <franklin> dont post your pw in here
[03:42] <franklin> add it to the end of that last line... it's the WPA passphrase u did for the router ealier
[03:42] <tjz> ok
[03:42] <tjz> ok
[03:42] <franklin> ok... done?
[03:42] <tjz> yea
[03:42] <franklin> so, in that file, the auto lo, auto eth0 and eth1 are all uncommented, right?
[03:42] <tjz> yep
[03:42] <franklin> and the others are commented, right?
[03:43] <tjz> yea
[03:43] <franklin> save the file
[03:43] <franklin> click save
[03:43] <Jin> got it
[03:44] <tjz> ok
[03:44] <franklin> ok
[03:44] <franklin> is your ethernet cable plugged in to the machine?
[03:44] <tjz> yea
[03:45] <franklin> your laptop, i mean
[03:45] <franklin> not the router
[03:45] <Jin> or not...
[03:45] <tjz> yea but im usong my desktopright now
[03:45] <ForgeAus> what are X includes?
[03:45] <franklin> it has a wireless card built in?
[03:45] <stdin> !xincludes
[03:45] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[03:46] <stdin> ForgeAus: ^^
[03:46] <tjz> no i installed it
[03:46] <franklin> ok...
[03:46] <franklin> type the following at the command line
[03:46] <ubuntu> Heya
[03:46] <Jin> NOW I've got it
[03:46] <tjz> ok
[03:46] <Jin> it WAS MonitorLayout options
[03:46] <franklin> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:47] <guille> hi
[03:47] <guille> please see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BoU75XKaO8
[03:47] <tjz> wait in terminal or kate?
[03:47] <franklin> terminal
[03:47] <guille> i want know that Menu is used in this video
[03:47] <Mobster> Which is better Xubuntu or Ubuntu?
[03:47] <franklin> my bust, should have told you
[03:47] <guille> i want change mi K menu :)
[03:48] <franklin> mobster...what works best for you is what's best
[03:48] <Mobster> Ah
[03:48] <tjz> ok
[03:48] <Mobster> Which one will detect my widescreen monitor?
[03:48] <franklin> both
[03:48] <ForgeAus> um stdin are you sure they're packages? or have they been superceded or something
[03:48] <ForgeAus> my adept doesn't show them
[03:49] <franklin> xubuntu and edubuntu and kubuntu all use the UBUNTU base, just different packages
[03:49] <franklin> tjz?
[03:49] <tjz> franklin: how do i get flash to install i keep gettin break
[03:49] <tjz> yea
[03:49] <Mobster> I'm In Ubuntu now and I can scroll around the desktop with my mouse
[03:49] <franklin> install flash?
[03:49] <stdin> ForgeAus: you don't see xorg-dev ?
[03:49] <tjz> yea
[03:50] <franklin> do you have firefox installed?
[03:50] <ForgeAus> I can't find it... refreshing the list
[03:50] <tjz> no it breaks that to
[03:50] <franklin> what browser are u using?
[03:50] <stdin> ForgeAus: they are all in main
[03:50] <franklin> define breaking, tjz?
[03:50] <ccherrett> ok so I have to run wlassistant and then ifdown and ifup to get my wireless working. Can this be done automatically?
[03:51] <tjz> konquer
[03:51] <franklin> browser won't work with flash?
[03:51] <gansinho> please, I'm having some problems with ktorrent... all my torrents keep changing from stalled to downloading... I do not have this issue in azureus for example, I'm not behind firewalls or proxys...
[03:51] <franklin> or you can't install it?
[03:51] <tjz> konqueror*
[03:51] <tjz> ok
[03:51] <franklin> ok, konq
[03:51] <tjz> how?
[03:51] <franklin> you want to install flash, right?
[03:51] <tjz> yea
[03:51] <franklin> ok
[03:52] <franklin> hold on, let me hit my notes and i'll paste you a link how-to
[03:52] <tjz> ok
[03:52] <Mobster> !resolution
[03:52] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:54] <franklin> tjz... this site is for ubuntu, but installing flash is the same
[03:54] <tjz> ok
[03:54] <tjz> that works
[03:54] <franklin> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/    you can also hit the kubuntu wiki
[03:54] <franklin> how is your wireless thing?
[03:56] <franklin> ?
[03:56] <franklin> must not be working...
[03:56] <ForgeAus> ahh found some
[03:57] <vas> Hey I am running Kubuntu and everything is sounding really low pitched like eveyrone has a deep voice when I listen to stuff
[03:57] <tjz> doin good its connected
[03:57] <franklin> cool...
[03:57] <vas> how can I fix this?
[03:57] <franklin> that was easy, right?
[03:57] <tjz> thanx
[03:57] <tjz> yea i guess
[03:57] <franklin> no prob, glad i can help
[03:58] <franklin> make a backup of your interfaces file
[03:58] <vas> me?
[03:58] <tjz> ok
[03:58] <franklin> ready?
[03:58] <franklin> in the terminal...
[03:59] <tjz> me?
[03:59] <intelikey> you
[03:59] <vas> tjz: yes you srry i jumped into that
[03:59] <tjz> k
[03:59] <tjz> yea wut 4?
[03:59] <Adydaz> frankin where is the kubuntu wiki
[03:59] <franklin> google for kubuntu wiki... it will be there
[04:00] <Adydaz> shot
[04:00] <franklin> i forget the link
[04:00] <franklin> i have so many bookmarks, my head hurts
[04:01] <Mena> how to link to trash and when its full the con for it work and when its emptu the icon fior it
[04:01] <Mena> icon*
[04:01] <Mena> empty*
[04:01] <franklin> tjz...copy that file... cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.bak
[04:02] <tjz> k
[04:02] <franklin> sorry... i've got a gaim session going as well
[04:02] <franklin> lol
[04:02] <tjz> kool
[04:02] <franklin> and lost is on
[04:02] <tjz> im usin msn right now
[04:03] <Adydaz> how do you support and add info to wiki?
[04:03] <franklin> wiki is reader supported
[04:03] <franklin> YOU can add to it
[04:03] <Adydaz> nm
[04:03] <vas> srry to be a botherrr, but a last roll call for anyone that might've missed my earlier question.. Everything is sounding in a low pitched tone like a very low voice.. Kubuntu OS
[04:04] <Adydaz> i found it
[04:04] <[R] eaper> anyone can help me with my ati card?
[04:04] <franklin> what are you trying to do?
[04:04] <intelikey> !sound | vas
[04:04] <ubotu> vas: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:05] <Mena> !trash
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <franklin> the bot beat me to it
[04:05] <ForgeAus> !MP3
[04:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:05] <ForgeAus> hmmm thats weird
[04:05] <flaccid> time for lunch
[04:06] <ForgeAus> easy to say please use free formats, if your making the files yourself thats ok but if your recieving them you don't choose what format...
[04:06] <intelikey> !ati [R] eaper
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati [r] eaper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <Adydaz> ForgeAus: having issues playing mp3s?
[04:06] <ForgeAus> me no
[04:07] <intelikey> ForgeAus you can allways dirrect them to /dev/null if they are in non-free formats...
[04:07] <franklin> non-free sucks
[04:07] <tjz> franklin: my audio will not work
[04:07] <franklin> when  did this happen?
[04:08] <tjz> it happened when i installed kubuntu
[04:08] <[R] eaper> my ati card doesn work right
[04:08] <franklin> make sure arts is enabled like the bot said above
[04:08] <intelikey> !ati | [R] eaper
[04:08] <ubotu> [R] eaper: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:08] <[R] eaper> i have the latest ati drivers, but my screen look bad
[04:09] <intelikey> ooops.  guess i wasn't paying attention the first time.
[04:09] <[R] eaper> here is my xorg.0.log http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/885944
[04:09] <tjz> it will not work i installed it and put in a cd and using head phones hte only program i can actually hear music is kscd
[04:09] <franklin> make sure the volune is up
[04:09] <vas> play with the mixer
[04:10] <franklin> i suck at sound issues
[04:10] <franklin> i really do
[04:10] <tjz> it is  i plugged my head phones into the back of my dt but i hear nithing and in the front cd drive i only hear it in kscd
[04:10] <joshi> Hello
[04:11] <vas> ya the bot gave me nothin.. still low pitched sound
[04:11] <Mena> How to set a link to trash to chage the icon when its full and empty on dektop?
[04:11] <joshi> i play with wine mdk 2 but the sound does not work has anyone an idea?
[04:12] <Mena> desktop*
[04:12] <tjz> crap
[04:12] <BluesKaj> vas, check your soundcard connection , sounds like humm
[04:12] <vas> ok
[04:12] <surgy> joshi: a conflict with another program locking the sound driver?
[04:12] <vas> its not the speakers BTW
[04:12] <joshi> sound works without a game...
[04:12] <Lord_Flasheart> hi i'm not able to get kubuntu to work on my lapto
[04:12] <joshi> wich could it be?
[04:12] <[R] eaper> please someone take a look to my xorg.0.log and tell me what is wrong http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/885944
[04:12] <joshi> ups which
[04:12] <Lord_Flasheart> i think the problem may be the nvidia geforce go 7950 gtx sli cards
[04:12] <CVirus> Lord_Flasheart: not work ? yeah right
[04:13] <intelikey> sound is over rated.
[04:13] <piro> is freenx gnome specifc by chance?
[04:13] <intelikey> any deaf person can tell ya that.
[04:13] <joshi> could i change the sound in wine to another engine or sth like that?
[04:13] <Lord_Flasheart> when you install it with the alternate text installer (the graphical one won't boot)
[04:13] <CVirus> intelikey: you're deaf ?
[04:13] <CVirus> joshi: winecfg
[04:13] <Lord_Flasheart> the machine still doesn't boot after the install
[04:13] <intelikey> CVirus no just hard of listening.
[04:14] <Lord_Flasheart> but won't get beyond the loading screen with the blue bar
[04:14] <Lord_Flasheart> just drops out to a blank screen forever
[04:14] <Lord_Flasheart> i looked in the x org config file and it is using the vesa driver
[04:15] <CVirus> Lord_Flasheart: next time ... put your question in one messege .... now ... edit the boot parameters and remove quiet and splash
[04:15] <CVirus> Lord_Flasheart: and see where it fails
[04:15] <Lord_Flasheart> CVirus: could you tell me how to edit the boot parameters, i have not done that before?
[04:16] <[R] eaper> any radeon x1600 owner here??
[04:16] <intelikey> Lord_Flasheart [esc]    select the line you wish to edit and hit  [E] 
[04:16] <joshi> just a moment please...
[04:16] <joshi> i will look
[04:17] <Lord_Flasheart> intelikey: is that in a particular file?
[04:17] <vas> hey in Kmix I accidentally got rid of that top bar Files Options Help thing
[04:17] <intelikey> at the grub prompr
[04:17] <vas> I right clicked n got rid of the toolbar
[04:17] <intelikey> t
[04:17] <vas> my bad how do I get it back lol
[04:17] <CVirus> Lord_Flasheart: when grub is counting down .. press the escape key .. then press the "e" button .. and go to the line with the parameters and press the "e" button again .. and remove quiet and splash and press the enter key then press the "b" key
[04:17] <Lord_Flasheart> cool, i will try that and let you know what's up
[04:17] <intelikey> vas alt+f2  type in kicker
[04:17] <CVirus> Lord_Flasheart: sure
[04:18] <vas> intelikey: nah nada
[04:18] <intelikey> vas sounds like you hid it.
[04:19] <intelikey> search the bottom top sides of the screen
[04:19] <vas> intekiley ahh god..
[04:19] <franklin> lost sucks tonight
[04:19] <intelikey> vas,   i am not.   don't you accuse me of that.
[04:20] <vas> intelikey I caught you red handed.. the search is over give up
[04:20] <vas> *vas cracks out the yamicha
[04:21] <MukiEX-da> Is anyone here getting "the mouse problem"?
[04:23] <MukiEX-da> Anyone? This mouse thing is making kubuntu unusable =(
[04:24] <eddy> helloo
[04:25] <eddy> does someone see this message?
[04:26] <MukiEX-da> Yes eddy
[04:26] <eddy> thanks!
[04:26] <franklin> lol
[04:26] <Agent_bob> eddy you can always /ping eddy   to make sure you are connected.
[04:27] <eddy> good tip!
[04:27] <ccherrett> ok this sucks!
[04:27] <vas> nooo!
[04:27] <ccherrett> I have been trying to connect my wireless for hours
[04:27] <vas> what can I do about a lost toolbar
[04:27] <Jucato> vas: which toolbar?
[04:27] <vas> KMix the File Options Help Toolbar thingy
[04:27] <ccherrett> it connects withsome commandline power but not automatically
[04:27] <vas> I can't filda place to right click
[04:27] <Agent_bob> vas   killall kicker ;kicker
[04:27] <vas> soI can get it back
[04:27] <Jucato> vas: Ctrl+M
[04:27] <Admiral_Chicago> vas: Ctrl + M
[04:27] <ccherrett> can someone help
[04:27] <vas> i fuckin love you guys
[04:28] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: ha beat you! :P
[04:28] <vas> excusethe language
[04:28] <Admiral_Chicago> ccherrett: whats the problem.
[04:28] <vas> thats been drivin me nuts
[04:28] <MukiEX-da> Anyone? Mouse several pixels below where it should be?
[04:28] <MukiEX-da> Cursor not matching location?
[04:28] <vas> that was problem 1 tho, now I g2 fix my computer from makin everythin sound in a deep deep low voice
[04:28] <ubuntu> hi.. I have a question reg kubuntu install.. could someone help
[04:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: spelling mistake...that could get ugly quick..
[04:28] <Admiral_Chicago> !ask | ubuntu
[04:28] <ubotu> ubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:28] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: if I run wlassistant and then ifdown eth1 and ifup eth1 i get connectivity
[04:29] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: but not on boot
[04:29] <Admiral_Chicago> okay. I have heard of this error before not sure how to fix it other than writing a scipt
[04:29] <ccherrett> I have played with /etc/network/interfaces but nothing is working for me
[04:30] <ubuntu> I have already Redhat + win2k + win98 on my system.. how easy is it to replace REDHAT with Kubuntu???
[04:30] <MukiEX-da> Please, any help would be appreciated. Even a remote point in the right direction, my interface is completely fucking unusable as it is =(
[04:30] <MukiEX-da> The ubuntu forums don't seem to have anything on this bug.
[04:30] <Agent_bob> ubuntu  pretty easy.  but are you sure you want to ?
[04:31] <ubuntu> Yes.. i hate REDHAT
[04:31] <Admiral_Chicago> ccherrett: like I said, I don't know how to fix it. I would write a script
[04:31] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: how could I get that script to run on boot?
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago> ccherrett: type this is a konsole
[04:32] <Agent_bob> ubuntu then what makes you think you will like ubuntu ?   you can have kde on redhat too you know ?
[04:32] <dwidmann> ubuntu: should be as easy as wiping redhat's partition(s), and reusing those for kubuntu
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago> cd Desktop
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago> err actually
[04:32] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to print with a Cannon bjc-265sp.  When I was setting up the printer test page worked.  However nothing else will.  Pages I try to print just stay on processing.  What should I do?
[04:32] <ubuntu> what happens to my lilo loader ??
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago> cd ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:32] <stdin> ccherrett: just add a line like "pre-up wlassistant" to the interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:32] <Agent_bob> it gets replaced by grub
[04:32] <dwidmann> ubuntu: Kubuntu will replace it with grub
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago> touch AdmiralsScript.sh
[04:32] <Admiral_Chicago> nano AdmiralsScript.sh
[04:33] <ubuntu> will it retain other info in LILO reg windows installs???
[04:33] <dwidmann> it shouldn't have any trouble detecting the windows partitions and adding them to the list
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo ifdown eth1
[04:33] <kgx> lets say i have a directory and there are some subdirectories (.svn to be particular) in it. whats the quickest way of getting rid of all the .svn directories?
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> (drop down a line)
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo ifup eth1
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Ctrl + O
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Enter
[04:33] <Agent_bob> ubuntu it "should" setup up the windows partition to boot.   if it doesn't it's not hard to add an entry.
[04:34] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: ok I think it will need some iwconfig commands first
[04:34] <Agent_bob> ubuntu as far as it using any of the existing information.  NO!
[04:34] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: should I put them in first?
[04:34] <stdin> kgx: find /path/to/dir -type d -name ".svn" -exec rm -r {} \;
[04:34] <Admiral_Chicago> chmod 700 AdmiralScript.sh
[04:34] <Admiral_Chicago> ccherrett: if you like
[04:35] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: ok cool I will play with that
[04:35] <ccherrett> thanks
[04:35] <Admiral_Chicago> ccherrett: let me know if it doesn't work
[04:35] <ccherrett> crazy_bus: hows it going?
[04:35] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: I will thanks
[04:35] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe, Ive been playing with scripts lately. not too good, but I can make it do some things
[04:37] <kgx> stdin: thanks :)
[04:37] <Agent_bob> echo -e '!#/bin/sh \n\nsudo ifdown eth1 \nsudo ifup eth1\n' > AdmiralsScript.sh ;chmod 700 AdmiralsScript.sh
[04:37] <Agent_bob> Admiral_Chicago ^
[04:38] <crazy_bus> ccherrett: about your story?  Or the printer.  The printer still isn't working
[04:38] <Admiral_Chicago> Agent_bob: yea, that would work. like I said, i've just started playing with commands. I'll keep that in mind
[04:39] <osiris> is it possible to use mp3's or wav files for kde system sounds ?
[04:40] <Kyral> osiris: Yes
[04:40] <osiris> how.  neither work, and i have done all the stuf for playing restricted formats
[04:40] <surgy> osiris: as long as you have the proper decoder
[04:40] <surgy> !mp3
[04:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:41] <ccherrett> crazy_bus: alsa just the printer :)
[04:41] <Agent_bob> Admiral_Chicago if you use redirrects to write scripts. one odd querk you should be aware of sudo echo 'blah' > file    writes file as normal user because of the redirrect.  have to use something like    echo 'blah' | sudo tee file       just thought i'd mention that ahead of time, so it didn't supprise you.
[04:41] <surgy> !mp3 | osiris
[04:41] <ubotu> osiris: please see above
[04:41] <osiris> and thats a > yer looking for
[04:41] <lontra> anyone know if there are any official packages of the opensuse kickoff menu for kubuntu?
[04:42] <ubuntu_> pota
[04:42] <ubuntu_> de leche
[04:43] <osiris> again, not related to the kde system sounds.  playing these files in a media player works fine.  they just wont work as system sounds for kde
[04:43] <Agent_bob> !ph
[04:43] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[04:44] <Agent_bob> osiris so convert them to .au
[04:45] <osiris> good solution.  change the problem.
[04:45] <Agent_bob> i guess you are going to tell me you don't know how to "save as"
[04:46] <Agent_bob> or .ogg if you like compressed.
[04:47] <Agent_bob> osiris and if the player you are using can't do that. audacity can.
[04:48] <vas> is there a Default button for KMixer b/c I think it might be causing the low voices for my movies
[04:49] <GuyFromHell> so what would be the (k)ubuntu equivelent of running `dhcpcd eth1`?
[04:50] <Admiral_Chicago> Agent_bob: okay thanks i'll remember that
[04:51] <Adydaz> GuyFromHell: DHCP issues?
[04:51] <Agent_bob> Admiral_Chicago yeah it threw me for a loop the first time i ran into it.
[04:51] <Adydaz> dhclient i think is what your looking for..
[04:51] <GuyFromHell> Adydaz: wireless issues, I'm trying to figure out what's wrong
[04:51] <uranther> package from openoffice's website doesn't work either
[04:51] <uranther> same problem
[04:51] <GuyFromHell> Adydaz: that's it, I'll give it a shot from here. thanks
[04:52] <Zorix> any reason why amarok doesnt do shoutcast streams.. a get an error about a demux plugin
[04:52] <Zorix> as far as i know all codecs are installed
[04:52] <Agent_bob> !demux
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about demux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <Zorix> is there a package?
[04:53] <Agent_bob> libxine-extracodecs ?
[04:53] <Agent_bob> apt-cache search demux
[04:54] <Zorix> doesnt exist
[04:54] <Zorix> ok
[04:54] <Agent_bob> !libxine-extracodecs
[04:54] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[04:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Zorix: try #amarok maybe
[04:54] <Agent_bob> it exists in multiverse repos Zorix
[04:55] <Agent_bob> !repos
[04:55] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:55] <Mena> How to set a link to trash to chage the icon when its full and empty on desktop?
[04:55] <Zorix> installed mpegdemux package and no difference
[04:55] <Zorix> oh multiverse ok
[04:56] <Agent_bob> Mena maybe right click on the icon > configure (preferances)    click the icon picture select the imbeding trashcan
[04:57] <Mena> Agent_bob, i will try
[04:58] <Uberuxterm> hey i was on the FAQ for kubuntu, it says to enable multiverse and other respotories, i have to go to synaptic, etc but kubuntu dont have it
[04:58] <Uberuxterm> so how do i enable them
[04:58] <Zorix> Agent_bob: i installed that package, same result
[04:58] <Adydaz> Uberuxterm: you need to edit it with kate
[04:59] <Adydaz> use kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:59] <Uberuxterm> what file and what do i add
[04:59] <Uberuxterm> ok
[04:59] <Uberuxterm> what do i add
[04:59] <Agent_bob> that was the full extant of my knowledge in that dirrection.  maybe someone else can help you.
[04:59] <Uberuxterm> if iw ant to enable restricted, etc and everything later i will be adding mp3 support
[04:59] <Adydaz> add the word multiverse to the end
[04:59] <Adydaz> but firstly ensure its not commented out and allkready there with a ##
[04:59] <Adydaz> err #
[04:59] <Uberuxterm> ok
[05:00] <Agent_bob> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse restricted
[05:00] <Agent_bob> like that   ^
[05:00] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: it seems to be more complicated than I thought
[05:00] <Adydas> if you get lost try this it might help somewhat..
[05:00] <ccherrett> that script does not work
[05:00] <Adydas> http://adydas.net/linux/repos.html
[05:00] <Zorix> now it works after i kill the app a 2nd time it works
[05:00] <Zorix> thanks Agent_bob
[05:00] <Agent_bob> ccherrett does it stop and restart the eth1 interface ?
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> ccherrett: what do you do when you turn on wlanassist?
[05:01] <Admiral_Chicago> are you sure its not like wl0
[05:01] <Agent_bob> Zorix welcome.
[05:01] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob im on kubuntu 6.06ls , should i paste my sources on a pastebin and show u
[05:01] <ubuntu> Assalamualaikum w.b.t.
[05:01] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: when I run wlassistant it brings up a connection to iynksys
[05:01] <ccherrett> linksys
[05:02] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: I click on that and can see it run a bunch of commands on the command line
[05:02] <ccherrett> It fails to esstablish the connection but when I run ifup and ifdown it then works
[05:03] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, not sure..
[05:03] <ccherrett> it does not work untill I run wlassistant
[05:03] <KanRiNiN> Hey.  I can't find how to switch my default file manager from konqueror to dolphin
[05:04] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob ok thx
[05:04] <Agent_bob> np
[05:04] <Necronomicon> hola a todos
[05:04] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob should i do this, and then upgrade to edgy
[05:04] <Necronomicon> kubuntu en espaol?
[05:04] <Uberuxterm> overwrite with tihs file and then uprade
[05:04] <Uberuxterm> upgradE*
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe start a wlanassistant before it. then I think you can make the script wait 30 seconds
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> !es | Necronomicon
[05:04] <ubotu> Necronomicon: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:05] <Necronomicon> !es
[05:05] <Agent_bob> upgrading is entirely up to you.  i still run 6.6
[05:05] <ccherrett> Admiral_Chicago: wlassistant is a GUI
[05:05] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob are we missing out on anything
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> ccherrett: i know.
[05:05] <ccherrett> ok
[05:05] <Agent_bob> i'm not.
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm just not sure how to help you
[05:05] <Uberuxterm> im too dumb to know the differences
[05:06] <Dr_willis> that sounds like most windows users.
[05:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:06] <Agent_bob> then you'll never miss the extra bugs.
[05:06] <Necronomicon> games for kubuntu dapper?
[05:06] <Uberuxterm> hah
[05:06] <Uberuxterm> i am a win user btw
[05:06] <Uberuxterm> on my lap
[05:06] <Dr_willis> I play lots of games
[05:06] <ForgeAus> me 2
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Puzzle Pirates is fun for a change of pace.
[05:06] <Agent_bob> you play with your lap ?    shame on you.    and shame on you for telling us.
[05:07] <Necronomicon> sotty for mi bad english room
[05:07] <KanRiNiN> Does anyone know about changing the default file manager?
[05:07] <Necronomicon> web page with kde games???
[05:07] <ForgeAus> necro skip linux games and go for emulation :)
[05:07] <Agent_bob> Necronomicon "tome"   linux game tome    that's the place to look.
[05:07] <Malay_Linux> I am using Konversation at Kubuntu Linux 6.10 Edgy Eft
[05:07] <ForgeAus> adept has lots of games
[05:08] <Dr_willis> KanRiNiN,  not too sure thats doable.. you can install others and just make some shortcuts to them on the desktop.. but i cant say that ive seen Konqueror totally disabled
[05:08] <Necronomicon> sorry i have not grafic card
[05:08] <manchicken> ubotu: firefox32 is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> !games
[05:08] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:08] <Necronomicon> my grafic card is a onboard sis 630
[05:08] <cpk1> Necronomicon: there is a kdegames meta package that will install all the kde games in the repos
[05:08] <KanRiNiN> Dr_willis: Thanks.  I just read the article about it being more usable and thought I'd try.  I'll just set up dolphin /home/* shortcuts :-)
[05:09] <Necronomicon> yes kde games i have but more games?
[05:09] <Agent_bob> kdegames - KDE Games metapackage
[05:09] <Dr_willis> KanRiNiN,  i dident find dolphin mure useable. :)
[05:09] <pointfivezero> !kdegames
[05:09] <ubotu> kdegames: KDE Games metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 68 kB
[05:09] <Agent_bob> Necronomicon "tome"   linux game tome    that's the place to look. <<< repost.    google   "linux game tome"
[05:09] <Dr_willis> Not the Linux Game Tomb :)
[05:10] <Necronomicon> ok i see a https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games
[05:10] <Necronomicon> for more information
[05:10] <Agent_bob> Necronomicon or ignore me altogather...
[05:10] <cpk1> Necronomicon: just search the repos too, there are several free games in there
[05:10] <Necronomicon> heyy see
[05:10] <Necronomicon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZhiYff7nM
[05:11] <Agent_bob> cpk1 like apt-cache search game | wc -l
[05:12] <dawn> where can one get some kubuntu stickers?
[05:12] <Dr_willis> print some out? :)
[05:12] <dawn> to cover the ugly "Designed for Windows Xp"
[05:12] <Agent_bob> yeah print them.
[05:12] <dawn> Well..
[05:12] <Agent_bob> oh wait.  my printer don't work.
[05:12] <dawn> thats too easy
[05:13] <Agent_bob> how to get cups working ?
[05:13] <Agent_bob> medic !
[05:13] <Dr_willis> ive seen linux 'case badges' at thinkgeek, and other sites
[05:13] <dawn> i got cups to work with my  dell printer :)
[05:13] <dawn> canon pixma 1700, forget it
[05:13] <Dr_willis> i got a canon 1600
[05:14] <dawn> btw: I did wreck my ubunto ditro on the bosses laptop :)
[05:14] <dawn> *distro
[05:14] <Agent_bob> well this should almost print raw.  but cups don't work.   as in still BUSTED.
[05:14] <dawn> which model printer
[05:14] <Necronomicon> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Native_Games
[05:15] <Agent_bob> dawn lexmark 1020
[05:15] <dawn> hmmm
[05:15] <dawn> i have a rebranded lexmark
[05:15] <Agent_bob> very well supported for many years in linux.
[05:15] <Agent_bob> all i have to do is add it to cups..... except cups is hosed.
[05:15] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob, i updated the source, now when i do sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll and 5-6 other things it says "package not found"
[05:16] <dawn> think geek badges are ugly
[05:16] <Agent_bob> gstreamer0.10-pitfdll - GStreamer plugin for using MS Windows binary codecs
[05:16] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm that's a search from the same sources.list
[05:16] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bobwhat you mean?
[05:17] <Agent_bob> i mean i did apt-cache search gstreamer0.10-pit   and it spit out that.
[05:17] <Uberuxterm> oh
[05:17] <Uberuxterm> but it dont work
[05:18] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm   sudo apt-get update
[05:18] <Agent_bob> close package managers first.
[05:18] <Uberuxterm> im at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestricedFormats under ubuntu 6.06/6.10
[05:18] <Uberuxterm> all closed
[05:18] <Uberuxterm> just konsole open
[05:18] <Agent_bob>   ubuntu 6.06/6.10   ?
[05:19] <Uberuxterm> kubuntu site goes there
[05:19] <Agent_bob> that's dapper sources.   have you upgraded to edgy ?
[05:19] <Uberuxterm> no
[05:19] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm do lsb_release -a
[05:19] <Uberuxterm> i'm on kubuntu 6.06 LTS
[05:19] <Agent_bob> ok.
[05:20] <Uberuxterm> im on dapper
[05:21] <Agent_bob> ok and what is the error ?
[05:21] <Agent_bob> you did   sudo apt-get update     ?
[05:21] <Agent_bob> did it complete without errors  ?
[05:22] <Agent_bob> am i talking to my self again  ?
[05:22] <Malay_Linux> Can buntu users get free CD?
[05:22] <Uberuxterm> i didnt do that let me try
[05:22] <Agent_bob> !shipit
[05:22] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[05:22] <slyfox> Does Koffice support .doc files ?
[05:23] <Agent_bob> which .doc ?
[05:23] <slyfox> Agent_bob: microsoft word files
[05:23] <slyfox> xp 2003
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Whats up Doc.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:23] <anees> hi
[05:23] <Uberuxterm> not much Doc
[05:23] <anees> I want to configure kannel on kubuntu
[05:23] <anees> but unable to do it
[05:24] <Dr_willis> kannel?
[05:24] <anees> can anyone help me plz
[05:24] <anees> yes
[05:24] <Agent_bob> but i don't know the answer anyway.    slyfox just pointing out that there are at least 5 .doc formats.
[05:24] <Dr_willis> never heard of it. :)
[05:24] <anees> it's a sms gateway
[05:24] <slyfox> I just wonder if it can open and save .doc word files xp and 2003 fiels ?
[05:24] <bkudria> I just posted a new version of my 'snippit' app - a script to type text snippets for you quickly.  Now with in-place replacement support!  I'd appreciate any feedback! http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=52197
[05:25] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob it works now, i had to update the apt-get. thx.
[05:25] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm np.   welcome
[05:25] <Uberuxterm> i like synaptic..
[05:25] <Uberuxterm> the one on this one sucks
[05:25] <anees> anybody help me configuring kannel??
[05:26] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm you will now see a lot more packages avalable in the package manager.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Uberuxterm,  then install it...
[05:26] <Adydas> Why do you need to do that anees?>
[05:26] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm install synaptic.
[05:26] <anees> to configure sms gateway
[05:26] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob u can do that/
[05:26] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob i thought it was only for gnome
[05:26] <GuyFromHell> can someone point me in the direction of making knetworkmanager work (I can get the blasted thing to work just typing in `iwconfig eth1 essid XXXXX key XXXXX` and `dhclient eth1` but I can't figure out how to replicate it in the program)
[05:26] <Uberuxterm> lol
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Uberuxterm,  you arwe thinkng  'small' :)
[05:26] <Agent_bob> this is linux.   custom is the key  and free is the word.
[05:27] <Uberuxterm> how do i install it
[05:27] <Dr_willis> you can mix and match/run gnome and kde apps
[05:27] <Dr_willis> same as ya install everything else.
[05:27] <Uberuxterm> adept sucks
[05:27] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install synaptic is one way
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Uberuxterm,  yea sure.. whatever.. You dont know how to install synaptic.. but you have enough experience to say adept suck..... :P
[05:27] <Uberuxterm> Dr_willis, i can install gnome programs too? but why dont gnome have kde apps then , like when they release it i only seen it with gnome apps, and vice versa
[05:27] <anees> anybody help me configuring kannel plz
[05:28] <Dr_willis> Uberuxterm,  you should see all the apps in the menus.
[05:28] <Agent_bob> in adept  or aptitude or dselect or with apt-get     or heck you could even dl the package and use dpkg -i  to install it    or even get the suorce code and compile it.     how do you want to install it ?
[05:28] <Uberuxterm> ill do the one line easy command :
[05:28] <Uberuxterm> :D
[05:28] <Agent_bob> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[05:28] <Malay_Linux> I've got Dapper CD... can I get next release CD for free?
[05:29] <Uberuxterm> no there is a charge
[05:29] <Uberuxterm> haha
[05:29] <Agent_bob> Malay_Linux did you go to the shipit page ?
[05:30] <anees> anybody help me configuring kannel plz
[05:30] <anees> anybody help me configuring kannel plz
[05:30] <Adydas> what do you need to do that for anees
[05:30] <Agent_bob> anees what do you mean configuring kernel ?    you building from source ?
[05:30] <anees> yes building from source
[05:30] <Dr_willis> geee most pople would read the docs/man pages and figure it out.. :)
[05:30] <Dr_willis> it cant be that hard.
[05:31] <dawn> question
[05:31] <Agent_bob> anees you have build-essential installed ?
[05:31] <anees> but got an error
[05:31] <anees> no
[05:31] <dawn> does grub have backups?
[05:31] <anees> plz guide me
[05:31] <Dr_willis> anees,  then why not tell us the error? instead ofbeing vague.
[05:31] <Dr_willis> dawn,  not normally
[05:31] <Agent_bob> !b-e
[05:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:31] <Adydas> shouldnt we find out why hes compiling it first
[05:31] <Agent_bob> !b-e | anees
[05:31] <ubotu> anees: please see above
[05:31] <ubuntu_> hello
[05:31] <dawn> ok nm
[05:31] <anees> ok
[05:31] <Uberuxterm> hey, how do i know the names for programs? for example, if i want to download terminal not konsole, or other programs..apt-get install <name> is there some list on sites
[05:32] <dawn> its recovery mode which is different
[05:32] <Dr_willis> !info kannel
[05:32] <ubotu> kannel: WAP and SMS gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-17 (edgy), package size 1010 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[05:32] <Dr_willis> looks like its in the repos....
[05:32] <nn17> .
[05:32] <Dr_willis> unless one needs thelatest version.
[05:32] <Adydas> Uberuxterm: apt-cache search searchforwhatever
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Uberuxterm,  a read of the apt-get guides is WELL worth the effort.
[05:32] <Dr_willis> !apt
[05:32] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:32] <Uberuxterm> nice works
[05:33] <Dr_willis> and how repositories work is anotehr thing to get educated on.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> !repo
[05:33] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:33] <koyo001> ok i have a problem with adept
[05:33] <anees> i am installing build essential right now
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Im apt-fu skills are sort of minimal.. i reread the docs every so often to relearn stuff.
[05:33] <koyo001> keeps crashing while updating
[05:33] <koyo001> can anyone help me out with this
[05:33] <Dr_willis> anees,  you realize that package is allready in the repositories and can be installed without compiling.
[05:34] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm apt-cache search "anything you think would be in the name or discription"    and/or  apt-cache show "package-name"     for details about any give package
[05:34] <anees> how
[05:34] <Adydas> anees: apt-get install kannel
[05:34] <anees> basically i m newby in linux
[05:34] <Adydas> sudo apt-get isntall kannel
[05:34] <anees> ok
[05:34] <Dr_willis> anees,   a read of the apt-get guides is WELL worth the effort.
[05:34] <Adydas> install
[05:35] <dawn> has anyone had any broken packages after updating in the past few days?
[05:35] <anees> ok...thanx
[05:35] <Dr_willis> !info kannel
[05:35] <ubotu> kannel: WAP and SMS gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-17 (edgy), package size 1010 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[05:35] <dawn> !ubuntu0minimal
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu0minimal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <dawn> !ubuntu-minimal
[05:35] <ubotu> ubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[05:35] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm sometimes i have to fillter the output   apt-cache search game | grep board | less    show me all board games installable.
[05:35] <dawn> ok so what is ubuntu-minimal?
[05:36] <dawn> machine upset over it
[05:36] <Agent_bob> !ubuntu-minimal
[05:36] <ubotu> ubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[05:36] <dawn> lol, i just did that
[05:36] <Dr_willis> that has to be some meta-package.. being so small
[05:36] <anees> adydas I m installing kannel
[05:36] <anees> sudo apt-get install kannel
[05:36] <Agent_bob> it's a meta package that depends on some things that the ubuntu team desided you needed.
[05:36] <anees> can u plz guide me how to configure it
[05:37] <anees> got an error
[05:37] <dawn> well all I did was atempt in installing  a wireless verizon modem and updated some packages
[05:37] <anees> while installing kannel
[05:37] <dawn> and now its broked..
[05:37] <dawn> :(
[05:37] <dawn> oh dear
[05:37] <Adydas> anees: try here
[05:37] <Adydas> http://adydas.net/linux/repos.html
[05:37] <Adydas> it worked for me..
[05:37] <Adydas> hopefully it can help you
[05:37] <anees> ok
[05:38] <Agent_bob> !worksforme
[05:38] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> 'configure' is NOT the same as 'compile'
[05:38] <dawn> lol
[05:38] <anees> ok
[05:38] <Agent_bob> configure != make
[05:39] <Dr_willis> and 'install'  (via apt-get) is not the same as compile, or configure. :)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:39] <anees> ok
[05:39] <Agent_bob> apt-get install != {configure,make}
[05:40] <Agent_bob> ok so that last one doesn't actually work anywhere.... it was best i could do on such short notice.
[05:41] <Agent_bob> apt-get install != configure  ||  apt-get install != make
[05:41] <Agent_bob> there that one will work  :)
[05:47] <GuyFromHell> can someone help me set up knetworkmanager or point me in the direction of making it work through a guide or something
[05:47] <GuyFromHell> the wireless "tubes" work fine when I use iwconfig/dhclient but I can't get it to work therough the gui
[05:48] <GuyFromHell> (which is rather unfortunate considering the reason I downloaded feisty was to use this when I got to school)
[05:48] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob i accidently killed the gui..how do i restart x?/kde
[05:49] <Malay_Linux> I want to lunch...
[05:49] <Agent_bob> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:49] <Uberuxterm> great :(
[05:50] <Dr_willis> or 'startx' :)
[05:50] <Uberuxterm> that just restarted comp
[05:50] <Uberuxterm> man that was the command!
[05:50] <Uberuxterm> start x
[05:50] <Uberuxterm> not restart lol
[05:50] <vegasmcpc> how do i find the uuid of a device?
[05:50] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm if you want i single session    startx
[05:50] <vegasmcpc> i'm trying to add a raid5 array to my /etc/fstab
[05:50] <Dr_willis> vegasmcpc,  look in /dev/disk/by-uuid
[05:50] <Uberuxterm> ok
[05:50] <Uberuxterm> my fault for not being claer
[05:50] <Dr_willis> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[05:50] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm no   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart    did not restart the computer.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> it 'restarts' the kdm service
[05:51] <vegasmcpc> Dr_willis: i need the uuid of a device that's not mounted yet
[05:51] <vegasmcpc> i'm trying to add a new drive to my /etc/fstab
[05:51] <Agent_bob> the k display manager   to be more persific
[05:51] <Dr_willis> vegasmcpc,  plug it in.. it 'should' show up in that /dev/disks-by stuff... THEN you edit the fstab
[05:52] <Agent_bob> specise ?
[05:52] <vegasmcpc> Dr_willis: it's not like it needs to be plugged in, it's a raid5 array that i just created
[05:52] <Dr_willis> vegasmcpc,  eww... Hmm... no idea how uuid works with raid stuff...
[05:52] <vegasmcpc> the array is functional, i formatted it, i just don't know how to mount it or add it to my /etc/fstab
[05:53] <vegasmcpc> there was a command to find the uuid in konsole, but i can't remember it
[05:53] <Dr_willis> thers some complex command that can do it -
[05:53] <Dr_willis> but its like a /dev/sd# deviice isent it? or similer?
[05:53] <Agent_bob> echo $UUID  ?
[05:53] <Agent_bob> uid ?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> thats User id.  :) not the devices UUID.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> !uuid
[05:53] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:54] <Agent_bob> blklist
[05:54] <Agent_bob> blkid
[05:54] <Bearcat> hello all
[05:54] <Agent_bob> which ever you have.
[05:54] <jbruckman> hello!
[05:55] <fakepatriot> can anyone tell me how to install things from a cd with Wine?
[05:55] <Agent_bob> also tune2fs will show the UUID for an fs i think...
[05:55] <Bearcat> i'm an oldie to linux but a newbie to kubuntu. I just installed kubuntu 6.06 (it was the only disc i had). Clicking on Fetch Updates in synaptic gives me no changes. Can i assume this is because the repository addresses are out of date? if so, where can i download a good default repository file from?
[05:55] <Bearcat> jbruckman: hello
[05:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Bearcat: no, it fetches updates, but doesn't install them
[05:56] <fakepatriot> did you enable all of the deb repositories?
[05:56] <Admiral_Chicago> for that you want to commit changes or something like that. ful upgrade
[05:56] <fakepatriot> oh yeah...yoiu need to click apply changes to install them...
[05:56] <Agent_bob> tune2fs -l /dev/hda1 | grep UUID         addressing may very.
[05:57] <Bearcat> hmmm
[05:57] <koyo001> where can i get a wmv viewer
[05:57] <Agent_bob> vlc
[05:57] <fakepatriot> !mplayer
[05:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Bearcat: did you apply?
[05:57] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[05:57] <koyo001> does anyone know
[05:57] <koyo001> mplayer
[05:57] <Agent_bob> koyo001 you just got two answers
[05:57] <Agent_bob> vlc  and mplayer
[05:58] <koyo001> vlc
[05:58] <fakepatriot> yep
[05:58] <Agent_bob> how many do you want ?
[05:58] <koyo001> thanks
[05:58] <koyo001> will try searching them
[05:58] <fakepatriot> !vlc
[05:58] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:58] <fakepatriot> !mplayer
[05:58] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[05:58] <Bearcat> there we go. Got it!
[05:58] <Agent_bob> !info vlc
[05:58] <koyo001> i just want one
[05:58] <Bearcat> Thanks :)
[05:58] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[05:58] <koyo001> but one that plays everything
[05:58] <Agent_bob> that's the one i meant   ^
[05:59] <fakepatriot> can anyone tell me how to install things from a cd with Wine?
[06:00] <Agent_bob> wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe
[06:00] <Agent_bob> ?
[06:00] <fakepatriot> does that work?
[06:00] <fakepatriot> ill try
[06:00] <Agent_bob> some times.
[06:00] <fakepatriot> well it's WoW
[06:01] <Agent_bob> beats me, never tried it.
[06:01] <fakepatriot> nice
[06:01] <koyo001> i have problems with adept
[06:01] <fakepatriot> neh doesn't seem to be working....
[06:01] <koyo001> it says it cannot commit packages
[06:02] <fakepatriot> did you give it $3?
[06:02] <koyo001> can anyone help me out
[06:02] <Agent_bob> echo $3 1 2 3
[06:03] <Agent_bob> koyo001 what are you trying to do in adept ?
[06:03] <fakepatriot> no actually im not sure what is wrong...i am only about a week or two into linux...
[06:04] <koyo001> just trying to instsall
[06:04] <draik> What is a good P2P app?
[06:04] <draik> The new frostwire won't start
[06:04] <Bearcat> wow. adept is nice
[06:04] <koyo001> or upgrade
[06:04] <Bearcat> sure alot faster then my distro :)
[06:04] <koyo001> does not let me do anything
[06:05] <Agent_bob> koyo001 open a konsole and type in     sudo echo yes
[06:05] <Necronomicon> kubuntu minimal requirements?
[06:05] <Agent_bob> lets make sure you have sudoers rights.
[06:05] <bigredradio> "Network Manager" sees my wireless device as a wired device. Anyone heard of this before?
[06:05] <koyo001> ok typed it
[06:06] <koyo001> what is that command supposed to do
[06:06] <Agent_bob> did it way  yes ?
[06:06] <koyo001> reset
[06:06] <koyo001> yes
[06:06] <koyo001> it said yes
[06:06] <koyo001> but what does that mean
[06:07] <Agent_bob> means sudo is working ok . hmmmm   kill the adept package manager and do this.
[06:07] <Necronomicon> kubuntu system minimal requeriments
[06:07] <Necronomicon> ??
[06:07] <Agent_bob> kdesu adept
[06:07] <Agent_bob> no wait.
[06:07] <Jucato> on Dapper: kdesu adept
[06:07] <Agent_bob> that wont give you output.
[06:07] <Jucato> on Edgy: kdesu adept_manager
[06:07] <draik> What is a good P2P app?
[06:08] <Jucato> draq
[06:08] <Agent_bob> Jucato we need output.
[06:08] <Jucato> draik: of which kind?
[06:08] <Jucato> Agent_bob: run it in Konsole?
[06:08] <Jucato> draik: torrent = KTorrent is good enough for regular needs.
[06:08] <draik> music
[06:08] <Agent_bob> yes.  but kdesu will dump the output to null wont it ?
[06:08] <Jucato> oh that kind...
[06:08] <Jucato> Agent_bob: hm...
[06:09] <koyo001> ok
[06:09] <koyo001> so in the end
[06:09] <koyo001> what the hell am i supposed to do
[06:09] <Agent_bob> koyo001 try  kdesu adept_manager
[06:09] <Mena_> hey pla some one see this fstab http://pastebin.com/886375
[06:09] <Mena_> bec i had a problem with fat32
[06:09] <koyo001> humm
[06:09] <Agent_bob> lets see if it gives error messages in the konsole.
[06:09] <koyo001> will try that
[06:10] <Jucato> Agent_bob: it does give messages before it starts running
[06:10] <koyo001> is kdesu a program
[06:10] <Agent_bob> Jucato but if there are errors while running ?    i don't think the konsole will get them will it ?
[06:10] <Agent_bob> yes
[06:10] <Agent_bob> like sudo
[06:10] <koyo001> or a command
[06:10] <Jucato> except if it crashes
[06:10] <Mena_> plz*
[06:10] <Agent_bob> !kdesu
[06:11] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:11] <Jucato> koyo001: a command is a program :)
[06:11] <Agent_bob> Mena_ what problem ?
[06:11] <koyo001> ok gimme a sec
[06:11] <Mena_> Agent_bob, the fat32 cant be mounted
[06:12] <Jucato> can or can't?
[06:12] <Mena_> cant*
[06:12] <Mena_> sorry ^_^
[06:12] <Jucato> what error is "mount" giving you?
[06:12] <Mena_> hey its cant
[06:12] <Mena_> sorry again
[06:12] <Mena_> hehe
[06:13] <Mena_> jucato, can't find hda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:13] <koyo001> ok tried it
[06:14] <Agent_bob> Mena_ so try the physical address rather than the UUID for that fs
[06:14] <Agent_bob>  /dev/hda3
[06:14] <Jucato> Mena_: what command are you using to mount it?
[06:14] <Jucato> I'm also not sure if "defaults" should be in there
[06:14] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo fdisk -l will list them
[06:14] <Jucato> oh, and it should be "vfat" not "fat32"
[06:15] <Agent_bob> Jucato defaults is fine there.  but it should be mounted at boot with those settings.
[06:15] <Jucato> ah ok
[06:15] <Agent_bob> yes vfat or auto
[06:15] <Jucato> the line generated by mountconfig for me doesn't have defaults
[06:15] <Agent_bob> Mena_ Jucato found it.    vfat
[06:16] <Jucato> there is a very unknown GUI for creating mount points and mounting in Kubuntu :)
[06:16] <Mena_> jucato, so what is the solution here bec i am lost
[06:16] <Mena_> :)
[06:16] <Jucato> Mena_: change fat32 to vfat first
[06:16] <Agent_bob> Jucato i've done it with and without defaults,   doesnt matter. anything after that takes priority.
[06:16] <Mena_> jucato, ok
[06:16] <Agent_bob> Mena_ change fat32 to vfat
[06:17] <Agent_bob> i'm slow.
[06:17] <Mena_> agent_bob , ok
[06:17] <Mena_>  :)
[06:17] <Agent_bob> koyo001 so how goes the war now ?
[06:18] <koyo001> well no change
[06:18] <Agent_bob> is it working ?  is it not ?    do we have error messages to work with ?
[06:18] <koyo001> trying to update to see if it can do it
[06:18] <Agent_bob>  do we have error messages to work with ?
[06:18] <koyo001> not working from what i can see
[06:19] <koyo001> stays jammed
[06:19] <koyo001> frozen
[06:19] <Agent_bob> eeeek.
[06:19] <koyo001> at 0 %
[06:19] <Agent_bob> and no messages in the konsole ?
[06:19] <Jucato> at these times, it's better to try using apt-get
[06:19] <Mena_> What vfat its fat16
[06:19] <koyo001> none
[06:19] <Mena_> ??? :)
[06:19] <Jucato> Mena_: it's both
[06:19] <Jucato> vfat = fat16 *and* fat32
[06:19] <Agent_bob> koyo001 ok kill that and do an       sudo apt-get update
[06:20] <Mena_> jucato , ok but the part is fat32  i didnt get you right
[06:20] <Jucato> Mena_: change the entry in fstab from fat32 to vfat
[06:21] <Jucato> Mena_: because Linux sees fat16 and fat32 as one type of filesystem = vfat
[06:21] <Agent_bob> Mena_ actually vfat = vertual (fat == "file allocation table")
[06:21] <Mena_> ok :)
[06:21] <Jucato> or "virtual" :D
[06:21] <Mena_>  8-)
[06:21] <Agent_bob> yeah that too
[06:21] <Agent_bob> on tuesdays
[06:22] <koyo001> doing a apt get update
[06:22] <koyo001> ok that worked
[06:23] <Dr_willis> and fat21 ?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> and fat12
[06:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:23] <Agent_bob> koyo001 ok now you can      sudo apt-get upgrade           or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   if you prefer.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> apt-get me a beer
[06:23] <Agent_bob> very little differance in the two but they are different.
[06:24] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis and fat8 for that matter can be mounted as  vfat
[06:24] <Mena_>  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/disk/by-uuid/45D5-3FDE, missing codepage or other error
[06:24] <Mena_>   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[06:24] <Mena_>        dmesg | tail  or so
[06:25] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob, can i download theme packs, etc? using apt-get ..what is something good for kde 3.2 window decorations
[06:25] <Jucato> you sure you got the correct UUID?
[06:25] <Agent_bob> Mena_ ok so now try the address like i mentioned first.
[06:25] <Mena_> jucato , yes
[06:25] <Agent_bob> !kdelook
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdelook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <Jucato> Mena_: first try using /dev instead of UUID
[06:25] <Jucato> !themes | Uberuxterm
[06:25] <ubotu> Uberuxterm: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:25] <Jucato> !changethemes | Uberuxterm
[06:25] <ubotu> Uberuxterm: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[06:26] <Mena_> ok
[06:26] <Adydas> Nvidia lack of GLX how do i fix that?
[06:26] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm that   ^
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Hello all
[06:26] <Jucato> hi DaSkreech
[06:26] <Agent_bob> !ati | Adydas
[06:26] <ubotu> Adydas: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:26] <DaSkreech> how are you?
[06:26] <koyo001> ok
[06:26] <Adydas> and err why is  Load    "glx" in my xorg.conf
[06:26] <Adydas> i dont use ati
[06:26] <Adydas> i use nvidia and its installed
[06:27] <Jucato> Adydas: points to the same page
[06:27] <koyo001> still stuck
[06:27] <Adydas> and apparantrly the module is active
[06:27] <koyo001> did the apt get
[06:27] <koyo001> that worked
[06:27] <Agent_bob> koyo001 message  ?
[06:27] <jbruckman> why is everything so laggy?
[06:27] <jbruckman> is it the server, or just me?
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Jucato: If ou need me Ping :)
[06:27] <Mena_> jucato , agent_bob, i did that delet the uuid and type /dev/hda3 and now its telling me cant find
[06:27] <koyo001> Reading package lists... Done
[06:27] <Agent_bob> jbruckman servers are lagging a little tonight
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Jucato: working on another window
[06:28] <koyo001> last message posted from apt get
[06:28] <Mena_> jucato , agent_bob, i did wrong ?
[06:28] <Jucato> DaSkreech: do I ever need you? :)
[06:28] <Jucato> j/k
[06:28] <jbruckman> Agent_bob: okay. glad it isn't just me then.
[06:28] <Jucato> koyo001: that's from "sudo apt-get update" right?
[06:28] <jbruckman> Agent_bob: thanks
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Jucato: No you are the man! But I can't help hanging on your magnificent coattails
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Jucato: can you blame me?
[06:28] <Jucato> hahah :)
[06:28] <Agent_bob> Mena_ sudo fdisk -l | grep hda
[06:28] <c-ron> how can i get the kmix sound control applet back into my system tray upon boot? right now it only displays when i load kmix manually
[06:29] <koyo001> yeah sudo apt get
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: i did a mad lag a bit ago. its the network
[06:29] <Adydas> Is this good? direct rendering: Yes
[06:29] <Jucato> !autostart | c-ron
[06:29] <ubotu> c-ron: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[06:29] <Mena_> Agent_bob, ok
[06:29] <ashu_> #join #ltsp
[06:29] <Jucato> c-ron: put a link to /usr/bin/kmix in ~/.kde/Autostart folder
[06:29] <Uberuxterm> Agent_bob how do i switch between Window managers?
[06:29] <Jucato> Adydas: yes. that means you have OpenGL direct rendering
[06:29] <Jucato> Uberuxterm: from the Session type in the Login Screen
[06:29] <c-ron> thanks, i'll try those
[06:29] <Agent_bob> Mena_ that should show you the partition you are looking for.   if it's no longer hda3  then adjust apropretly.
[06:29] <Uberuxterm> ok
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> you could just right click. create link to application. That's a simple way for me to do it c-ron & Jucato
[06:30] <Uberuxterm> Jucato i cant do it if im already in kde?
[06:30] <Mena_> Agent_bob, ok
[06:30] <Adydas> ok so what does this error mean, Assertion failed: FriendlyName!=NAME_None [File:UnClass.cpp]  [Line: 684] 
[06:30] <koyo001> =jucato
[06:30] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: notice I said "link". I didn't specify which kind of link for some reason :)
[06:31] <Jucato> koyo001: ok, what were you doing in Adept that make it say "can't commit changes"?
[06:31] <Agent_bob> Uberuxterm not sure kde will let you do that.  twm blackbox fluxbox icewm xfce   and a few others will let you switch from the menu.
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: good point. I'm going to bed
[06:31] <koyo001> upgrading
[06:31] <koyo001> or trying to download a package
[06:31] <Jucato> koyo001: you clicked on Full Upgrade?
[06:31] <koyo001> yeah
[06:31] <Jucato> koyo001: try to do the same using apt-get. see if it will give you errors
[06:32] <Mena_> Agent_bob, the command you give me didnt work i did that sudo fdisk -l and its hda3
[06:32] <stdin> Uberuxterm: you can try just killing kwin and starting the other window manager from konsole
[06:32] <koyo001> how can i run it
[06:32] <koyo001> what command
[06:32] <koyo001> to make full upgrade
[06:32] <Jucato> koyo001: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" <---that's the equivalent of Full Upgrade in Adept
[06:32] <koyo001> from the console right???
[06:33] <Agent_bob> Mena_ ok.   try this.    sudo mount /dev/hda3 -t vfat /media/hda3
[06:33] <Mena_> Agent_bob, in any way i try it again and its hda3
[06:33] <koyo001> ok
[06:33] <Uberuxterm> stdin what would i type in to start enlightenment?
[06:33] <koyo001> same problem
[06:33] <Agent_bob> if that says anything then lets see it.
[06:33] <koyo001> but i know where it crashes
[06:34] <Mena_> Agent_bob, it didnt say any thing i think it mounted it
[06:34] <stdin> Uberuxterm: probably just "enlightenment"
[06:34] <koyo001> it crashes at loading the  sun-java5-bin
[06:34] <Agent_bob> Mena_ lets see the line in the fstab again    after you have adjusted it.
[06:34] <Mena_> Agent_bob, ok
[06:34] <c-ron> how can i set fstab to mount vfat drive r/w for users?
[06:35] <Agent_bob> it's one line you can put it here.
[06:35] <Jucato> Uberuxterm: it's not really advisable to manually start another window manager without killing the currently running one, afaik
[06:35] <Mena_> Agent_bob, ok
[06:35] <Agent_bob> c-ron man mount   / mask
[06:35] <Mena_> UUID=/dev/hda3         /media/hda3    vfat    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:35] <Jucato> errr...
[06:35] <stdin> Mena_: UUID=/dev/hda3 ???
[06:35] <Agent_bob> Mena_ remove   UUID=
[06:35] <Jucato> remove the "UUID="
[06:36] <Mena_> hahahah sorry
[06:36] <Agent_bob> Mena_ :)
[06:36] <Agent_bob> c-ron note the line that Mena_ posted.   see the  umask=   that's sort of what you want.
[06:37] <koyo001> help
[06:37] <koyo001> help
[06:37] <Croooow> using mapping with guessnet for my eth0 in interfaces. my PC Card NIC isn't automatically configuring -- I have to do a manual ifup after insertion. if I use just iface, it does automatically configure. any ideas?
[06:37] <c-ron> is umask= value like chmod?
[06:37] <Jucato> koyo001: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:37] <Agent_bob> c-ron M$ file systems don't have permissions bits  so the linux system sets a vertual permission for the whole fs.
[06:38] <Agent_bob> so yes sort of.
[06:38] <c-ron> okay
[06:38] <Mena_> Okay friends its finaly mounted hehehehehehe ....Good Work
[06:38] <koyo001> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[06:38] <Mena_> Sorry i was stupied  :)
[06:38] <underdog5004> ahhh, I finally dropped that 200 gig into my torrent server...I feel accomplished... (just wish I'd known that I'd set my cdrom to be master even though it was slave-on-cable...)
[06:39] <stdin> c-ron: umask is kinda the opposite of chmod, it takes permissions away from 777, chmod add permissions to 000
[06:39] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[06:39] <underdog5004> howdy
[06:39] <Agent_bob> c-ron if you read in the man page.  you will note that there are three masks   umask dmask and fmask
[06:39] <brett_> my mplayer will not play movies off of the web... is there a better program to us
[06:39] <brett_> e
[06:39] <ForgeAus> brb
[06:40] <Adydas> brett_: VLC
[06:40] <stdin> maybe a codec issue tho, brett_
[06:40] <koyo001> how do i send the message directly to you jucato
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> mplayer-plugin
[06:41] <Admiral_Chicago> brett_: ^^
[06:41] <brett_> i can watch the movies fine if i download them first
[06:41] <Jucato> koyo001: what do you mean?
[06:41] <brett_> i have the plugin... it trys to load but ends up taking forever and never loads
[06:41] <Jucato> sleep Admiral_Chicago! sleep...
[06:41] <brett_> !adept_crash
[06:41] <brett_> !adept crash
[06:41] <koyo001> to make my message in red for you to see it better
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept_crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:41] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[06:41] <brett_> !adeptcrash
[06:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <koyo001> what is the keys to put before your name
[06:42] <Jucato> !adeptfix | brett_
[06:42] <ubotu> brett_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:42] <brett_> thanks Jucato
[06:42] <Jucato> koyo001: just mention my nick an I will see it in red
[06:42] <Jucato> it's automatic
[06:42] <stdin> koyo001: just type the nick name, like this message will appear red to you
[06:42] <Mena_> Jucato, this must enble permisison ofr me right (((sudo chmod 777 /media/hda3))
[06:42] <Mena_> for*
[06:43] <koyo001> jucato ok
[06:43] <Jucato> Mena_: hmmm? afaik, you don't need to do that, since you set umask already
[06:43] <Mena_> jucato, but i cant past any file in it
[06:43] <koyo001> jucato  dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[06:44] <Jucato> Mena_: /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,rw,users 0 0
[06:44] <Jucato> wow! what a coincidence.. we both have FAT32 on the same partition...
[06:44] <koyo001> jucato that was the error message that apeared
[06:44] <Agent_bob> Mena_ no. the umask=007,gid=46   is where you get perms
[06:44] <Jucato> koyo001: is Adept closed when you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"?
[06:44] <Mena_> jucato, heheeh ok
[06:44] <Agent_bob> might i sujest the gid might be wrong
[06:44] <koyo001> jucato yes
[06:45] <Jucato> !adeptfix | koyo001
[06:45] <ubotu> koyo001: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:45] <Jucato> koyo001: enter those commands ^^^^
[06:45] <Jucato> (from sudo to -a)
[06:46] <koyo001> jucato
[06:46] <Jucato> koyo001?
[06:46] <koyo001> jucato did that
[06:46] <Jucato> and?
[06:47] <koyo001> jucato and where do i go from there
[06:47] <Agent_bob> Mena_ you can    man mount    for help with vfat mounting   and note to all  search in the manpages is  /  or ? for backwards
[06:47] <Mena_> Agent_bob, ok
[06:47] <Croooow> does anyone see why my eth0 interface requires a manual ifup? here is my '/etc/network/interfaces', sanitized of course ;-) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6987/
[06:47] <koyo001> jucato because these are the same commands i am running and they still dont yield result
[06:47] <Jucato> koyo001: it finished processing and stuff? apt-get and adept should be working properly now
[06:48] <koyo001> jucato well its not
[06:48] <Jucato> koyo001: ok. what command are you using right now to test if it's working or not? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:48] <koyo001> jucato stays jammed installing the sun java 5
[06:48] <Jucato> koyo001: in Adept?
[06:48] <koyo001> jucato yeah
[06:49] <Jucato> koyo001: ok... don't use Adept when installing Java
[06:49] <Agent_bob> kinda like the EULA of the free world    man man   when you find your way out you can install.
[06:49] <Jucato> koyo001: use the command line. close Adept again and run "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" again
[06:49] <Jucato> koyo001: just remember. don't use Adept for installing Java or Flash or VMWare
[06:49] <koyo001> jucato the problem is if i am using the console it is one of the recomended updates therefore tries to update it automaticaly
[06:50] <Agent_bob> console != konsole
[06:50] <Jucato> koyo001: then upgrade in Konsole
[06:50] <koyo001> jucato exactly that is the problem
[06:51] <Jucato> koyo001: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:51] <koyo001> jucato it automaticaly starts the upgrade till sun java5
[06:51] <Jucato> koyo001:  in Konsole. not in Adept
[06:52] <Jucato> !java
[06:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:52] <Jucato> there
[06:52] <Jucato> boy was that annoying...
[06:52] <koyo001> jucato douing everything from konsole
[06:52] <Jucato> koyo001: just for java, just for this time
[06:52] <c-ron> good i can r/w now to my vfat drive. thanks!
[06:53] <Agent_bob> c-ron welcome.
[06:53] <koyo001> jucato
[06:53] <koyo001> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:53] <koyo001>  /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-bin_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[06:53] <koyo001>  /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[06:53] <koyo001>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic_2.6.17.1-11.35_i386.deb
[06:53] <koyo001> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:53] <Jucato> !pastebin | koyo001
[06:53] <ubotu> koyo001: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:53] <Jucato> next time use that when pasting multiple lines
[06:54] <Jucato> koyo001: try "sudo apt-get -f install" (fix install)
[06:54] <Agent_bob> -f = fix missing
[06:55] <koyo001> gives me errors
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Kubuntu doesn't ship with firefox
[06:55] <koyo001> jucato how do i use pastebin
[06:55] <Jucato> DaSkreech: huh?
[06:55] <DaSkreech> !paste | koyo001
[06:55] <ubotu> koyo001: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Jucato: The Ubuntu book says Kubuntu ships with the latest firefox
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: really? let me know what pages, I'll send it to the proper channels
[06:56] <Jucato> DaSkreech: oh I think they fixed that after Edgy was released
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> that was for Dapper LTS
[06:56] <DaSkreech> AdmiChap7 Page 252
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> the official ubuntu book that is,
[06:56] <koyo001> jucato gave me error
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: I'm reading the next version now
[06:57] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: new == ?
[06:57] <Jucato> koyo001: I'm a bit confused on what to do next...
[06:57] <DaSkreech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6990/
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Read ^^^
[06:57] <koyo001> well maybe if you knew what the error was
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> workin on it
[06:58] <koyo001> witch i cant post not to flod the channel
[06:58] <gugu^> How to auto mount a floppy
[06:58] <DaSkreech> koyo001: Pastebin gave you an error?
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> an argument can be made about language. technically it is installed but not by default
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: Feisty version?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Good guess :)
[06:59] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech the ubuntu pastebin gives me errors.
[06:59] <Agent_bob> i can read but can't post.
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Agent_bob: What errors?
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: hmm, you might read my recipe then at some point
[06:59] <Agent_bob> no biggy i just use another pastebin.
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: They have Kubuntu recipes?
[07:00] <koyo001> not pastebin
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: so it's sent away know, it should be addressed soon
[07:00] <Jucato> koyo001: paste the errors in pastebin. click on paste. then give us the link
[07:00] <Mena> Agent_bob, the same i cant make any thing with permisison
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: no, i sent one about Ubuntu, basically how to install Kubuntu desktop
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Cool
[07:00] <Mena> Agent_bob, i tried many things
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> and Edubuntu and Xubuntu
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Ha ha :) They have that in this chapter :)
[07:01] <Mena> or jucato ???:)
[07:01] <Agent_bob> Mena ?   still wrong umask fmask dmask uid gid settings ?
[07:01] <Jucato> Mena: please paste the line in your fstab again
[07:01] <Mena> ok
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: well, my recipe should be included so I get a free book :). Going to bed now officially
[07:02] <Agent_bob> Mena oh and you have to sudo mount -o remount /media/hda3   for changes in fstab to take affect
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Night
[07:02] <Mena> Agent_bob, i restart
[07:02] <Agent_bob> Mena   sudo mount -o remount /media/hda3
[07:02] <Agent_bob> don't restart.... this is not window.
[07:02] <Mena> Agent_bob, ok
[07:02] <Agent_bob> pfft.
[07:03] <Agent_bob> mena how much access to you want >?
[07:03] <Mena> agent_bob, all permisison for me
[07:04] <koyo001> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:04] <koyo001>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic_2.6.17.1-11.35_i386.deb
[07:04] <koyo001> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:04] <koyo001> humm that did not work very well
[07:04] <koyo001> try to paste it
[07:04] <Mena> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6993/
[07:04] <koyo001> tried to paste it
[07:04] <Agent_bob> change the line to.    /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat dmask=022,fmask=133,uid=<put your uid here> 0 0
[07:04] <Adydas> how do you get fps from glxgears?
[07:05] <Adydas> no man file :/
[07:05] <Mena> ok
[07:05] <Agent_bob> Mena if you don't know your uid.   echo $UID
[07:05] <DaSkreech> Adydas: --iacknowledgethatthistooolisnotabenchmark
[07:06] <Agent_bob> something like   *,uid=1000 0 0
[07:06] <Agent_bob> DaSkreech tooo many ooos
[07:06] <Agent_bob> in toool
[07:06] <DaSkreech> oooooooh!
[07:07] <xoss> when installing kdevelop 3.4 i get this error when i do ./configure:
[07:07] <xoss> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: it's not correct, it will be fixed. good looking out
[07:07] <Agent_bob> xoss install build-essential
[07:07] <Agent_bob> xoss why are you building ?
[07:08] <piro> does ssh go off of the users on the local computer? so if the comp was named hole.com and a user jon was on it you could do ssh jon@hole.com and you would just enter w.e password jon had locally no?
[07:08] <xoss> will try to use kdevelop..
[07:08] <Jucato> xoss: um? Kdevelop is available from the repos
[07:08] <Jucato> the latest stable
[07:08] <Jucato> 3.4
[07:08] <Agent_bob> piro yep
[07:09] <piro> well then my local is completely f'ed in the hole
[07:09] <piro> i get permission denied rofl
[07:09] <Adydas> ok whats a good benchmark fps program for kubuntu ( that it can use )
[07:09] <Jucato> xoss: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[07:09] <xoss> i tried it but it didnt find the package, i tried using apt-get
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> xoss: apt-cache search will let search
[07:10] <xoss> tried it to..
[07:10] <Jucato> xoss: you need to add the kubuntu.org repository for kde 3.5.6
[07:10] <Agent_bob> piro is sshd running on that hole ?
[07:10] <xoss> i even edit the sources.list
[07:10] <xoss> hmm..
[07:10] <Admiral_Chicago> oh Jucato is right as always
[07:10] <piro> i've done /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[07:11] <piro> and i get bac restartin openBSD secure shell server
[07:11] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: heh not always. and you should be sleeping
[07:11] <Mena> agent_bob, i couldnt make any thing in  any way i coppied the file i need with terminal until i come again to see this thig more clrearly
[07:11] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm eating EasyMac...might as well be productive
[07:11] <muuhBDX>  thers alarm in car that dosenT stop its 6 am FFS !
[07:11] <Mena> clearly* .........thanks friends :)
[07:11] <muuhBDX> cant you do something about it !!!?
[07:11] <Agent_bob> Mena would you care showing me the one line from the fstab now ?
[07:12] <Mena> Agent_bob , ok
[07:12] <Agent_bob> i'll just make sure it's sane.
[07:12] <Mena> Agent_bob , ok
[07:12] <Jucato> muuhBDX: we certainly can't. so there's no reason to announce that here
[07:12] <muuhBDX> im not so sure
[07:13] <Mena> as jucato said its the same as mine so take his line and put it(( /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat    uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,rw,users      0       0
[07:13] <Agent_bob> muuhBDX true it could get you kicked out of the channel.....  that would always help you...
[07:13] <Jucato> Mena: er.. make sure that the uid and gid there matches yours
[07:13] <Agent_bob> no  there are no mask's in that.
[07:13] <Mena> agent_bob, 1000 = 777 or not
[07:14] <Mena> :)
[07:14] <Jucato> yep no masks. it automatically gives me ownership of the mount/partition
[07:14] <Agent_bob> no there are NO mask 's in that you just posted.
[07:14] <Mena> so what is the wrong here ~_~
[07:14] <piro> what command do i use to see what services/daemons are running?
[07:14] <Mena> i think its on me
[07:14] <Mena> heheh
[07:14] <Agent_bob>  /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto,rw,users 0 0
[07:15] <Agent_bob> that's what you said   ^
[07:15] <Mena> ok so
[07:15] <Mena> jucato , said 1000=777 so what is wrong
[07:15] <Agent_bob>  /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 0
[07:15] <Agent_bob> that's what i said  ^
[07:15] <piro> nm with ps aux | grep sshd I found that yes it is running
[07:15] <Agent_bob> see the "mask" 's
[07:15] <Jucato> Mena: I never said 1000=777
[07:16] <Agent_bob> Mena try that    ^
[07:16] <Mena> jucato, you told me that 1000 give you the owner ship right
[07:16] <Agent_bob> Mena try that    ^
[07:16] <Agent_bob>  /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,fmask=133,dmask=022 0 0
[07:16] <Jucato> Mena: mask = for permissions, not ownership
[07:16] <Jucato> 1000 is my User ID (uid).
[07:16] <Mena> Agent_bob, ok..........Jucato, ok
[07:17] <Mena> Agent_bob,so the wrong is on me heheeh :)
[07:17] <Jucato> 1000 is also my Group ID (gid)
[07:17] <Agent_bob> Mena too many cooks in the kitchen
[07:17] <Agent_bob> or is it kooks ?
[07:17] <Jucato> by putting uid=1000, I have complete ownership of that partition/mount. and by being the owner, that gives me permissions
[07:17] <Mena> heheeh :D
[07:18] <DaSkreech> !ps3
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <DaSkreech> !xbox
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <piro> !ssh
[07:18] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:18] <Agent_bob> Jucato i also told him to use   echo $UID    i don't think he did.
[07:18] <Mena> Agent_bob,no i did it was 1000
[07:19] <Agent_bob> piro firewall blocking port 22 ?
[07:19] <Agent_bob> Mena ok.
[07:19] <Mena> ok
[07:19] <Jucato> Agent_bob: this cook is going out of the kitchen now. you have the pots :)
[07:19] <Agent_bob> and when you save that   sudo mount -o remount /media/hda3
[07:20] <Agent_bob> test it    it works now.
[07:20] <Mena> no its not
[07:20] <Mena> i just copied the line you gave....any wrong here or i must change the fmask
[07:20] <Jucato> oops! the cook was supposed to be out
[07:21] <Agent_bob> Jucato yeah redundant.  i add mask you add id he still don't get perms.
[07:21] <Jucato> actually, I didn't tell him to add anything. I just showed him *my* fstab line... generated by the mountconfig GUI
[07:21] <Agent_bob> Jucato worth a try.
[07:21] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: how can I check what version of kdm i'm using. i did kdm -v and kdm --version but those don't wonk
[07:22] <Agent_bob> Mena sudo umount /dev/hda3
[07:22] <Mena> Agent_bob , ok
[07:22] <Agent_bob> Mena sudo mount /dev/hda3
[07:22] <Agent_bob> now try it.
[07:22] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: apt-cache policy kdm is the only other way I can think of
[07:22] <Agent_bob> if that works i'll throw all the pots and pans at Jucato
[07:22] <Jucato> O.O
[07:23] <Agent_bob> :)
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> brilliant
[07:23] <Mena> okay the cook has been out
[07:24] <Agent_bob> Mena ?
[07:24] <Agent_bob> is that a yes or no ?
[07:24] <Mena> or had i dont know i dont remeber the gramer good bec its not primary lang (eng)
[07:24] <Mena> its working
[07:24] <Mena> i can  past to it
[07:25] <Mena> Agent_bob, Yes...Jucato, yes ....all here yes :)
[07:25] <Mena> thanks
[07:25] <Jucato> good to hear
[07:25] <Agent_bob> ok i learned that -o remount only works where you specify the options.     i have used it that way on occation.   mount -o remount,ro   or ,rw   or even ,nosuid     .... jucato  you win.   it's all yours now.
[07:25] <fullmetal> someone got a sec for an install question?
[07:25] <Mena> thanks thanks that you carry me
[07:26] <fullmetal> ????????
[07:26] <Mena> hhaahahh me to i will add steps you give the tips note :)
[07:27] <Mena> to*
[07:27] <Jucato> !ask
[07:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:27] <fullmetal> oh
[07:27] <fullmetal> well i am trying to do an install and it says i have a bad archie mirror
[07:27] <fullmetal> archive
[07:28] <Agent_bob> fullmetal so pastebin your sources.list
[07:28] <fullmetal> ?? im doing an install
[07:28] <Jucato> !pastebin | fullmetal
[07:28] <ubotu> fullmetal: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:28] <fullmetal> on a laptop, over network
[07:28] <Jucato> fullmetal: installing Kubuntu?
[07:28] <Jucato> oh...
[07:28] <Jucato> hm...
[07:29] <fullmetal> im on desktop, gentoo
[07:29] <Mena> bye bye Agent_bob bye bye Jucato....thanks
[07:29] <koyo001> still cannot run adept
[07:29] <Mena> :D
[07:29] <Agent_bob> Mena welcome
[07:30] <fullmetal> so anyone haev an idea?
[07:30] <Necronomicon> wowwwwwwww!!! a big lot of linux games  http://gaming.gwos.org/
[07:34] <surgy> WOW!!!
[07:34] <Forge> L(
[07:34] <Forge> grrr damn typos
[07:34] <Forge> :)
[07:34] <niblets> When I try to connect Amarok to my iPod, I get the following message "KLibLoader could not load the plugin:libamarok_ipod-mediadevice     Error message:/usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_ipod-mediadevice.so: undefined symbol:_ZN6amaroK9StatusBar10s_instanceE
[07:34] <niblets> Is there any way to fix this?
[07:35] <Forge> how come linux apps depend on so much version-specific stuff?
[07:36] <Forge> every time I try to add or remove anything QT it says its goina breaks something else...
[07:37] <Forge> and this package I'm trying to compile needs qt h eaders >= 3.0
[07:37] <bumzo> hi good kubuntu pple
[07:37] <eeanm> which means you don't have any qt headers at all Forge
[07:37] <bumzo> i need help
[07:37] <surgy> forge: i had the same problem i had to add the bleeding edge kubuntu repo and update to fix
[07:37] <bumzo> how do i get to ''korganiser'' ??
[07:38] <Jucato> bumzo: through Kontact
[07:38] <eeanm> surgy: qt 3.0 is like... 5 years old?
[07:38] <Forge> eek bleeding edge? sounds like trouble
[07:38] <Jucato> or Alt+F2, "korganizer"
[07:38] <eeanm> hardly bleeding edge!
[07:38] <Jucato> Forge: huh?
[07:38] <Jucato> !info libqt3-mt
[07:38] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3064 kB, installed size 8712 kB
[07:38] <Forge> is that all I need?
[07:38] <surgy> its a lib file for qt the regular repos have a different and or older version
[07:38] <vegasmcpc> can somebody help me with adding something to my /etc/fstab?
[07:38] <Jucato> Kubuntu uses Qt 3.3.6
[07:38] <eeanm> !info libqt3-dev
[07:38] <niblets> is there an Amarok support channel?
[07:38] <ubotu> Package libqt3-dev does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:38] <eeanm> niblets: #amarok
[07:39] <Jucato> !info libqt3-mt-dev | Forge
[07:39] <eeanm> !info libqt3-devel
[07:39] <ubotu> forge: libqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 51 kB, installed size 168 kB
[07:39] <ubotu> Package libqt3-devel does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:39] <Forge> nope says break
[07:39] <niblets> eeanm thanks
[07:39] <Forge> conflicts with libqt-mt-dev! uh?
[07:39] <Jucato> niblets: ^^^
[07:39] <Forge> conflicts with libqt-emb
[07:39] <bumzo> when i open kontact .... it doesntr look like the korganiser i had earlier seen
[07:39] <Forge> and libqt3-dev
[07:39] <Jucato> Forge: libqt3-mt-dev
[07:40] <vegasmcpc> anybody know how to find the uuid of a device?
[07:40] <Jucato> bumzo: Kontact is an app that combines and integrates PIM apps into one app.
[07:40] <Jucato> !uuid | vegasmcpc
[07:40] <ubotu> vegasmcpc: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[07:40] <DaSkreech> !kontact
[07:40] <ubotu> kontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1574 kB, installed size 3400 kB
[07:40] <Agent_bob> i wish i new how to search for things on the web...
[07:40] <bumzo> !korganiser
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about korganiser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <vegasmcpc> ok, do i just use sudo blkid?
[07:41] <Jucato> vegasmcpc: no nee for sudo
[07:41] <Jucato> bumzo: Kontact will run Korganizer inside it
[07:41] <vegasmcpc> just type in blkid?
[07:41] <bumzo> i prefer korganiser ... now i cant seem to get it anywhere though it shows its installed from add remove progs
[07:41] <Jucato> vegasmcpc: yes. and you will get a list
[07:41] <vegasmcpc> Jucato: thanks
[07:41] <bumzo> ok ... but how do i launch krganiser alone?
[07:42] <Jucato> Alt+F2, "korganizer"
[07:42] <vegasmcpc> Jucato: i created a software raid set, and when i type in blkid i only get /dev/sdd1, /dev/hda1, and /dev/hda2
[07:42] <Jucato> I wonder why you need to run that alone..
[07:42] <vegasmcpc> Jucato: am i to assume that /dev/sdd1 is the set?
[07:42] <Jucato> vegasmcpc: ah that I don't know.
[07:42] <surgy> good night jucato and gange
[07:43] <Jucato> night surgy
[07:44] <Forge> back
[07:44] <bumzo> i see what u mean jucato ... THANKS
[07:44] <Forge> Jucato no dice... removing the conflicts removes too much important stuff..
[07:44] <Forge> kdm included!
[07:45] <Jucato> Forge: ok, let's start from the top. what are you trying to do in the first place?
[07:45] <Forge> compile kio_wine
[07:45] <Jucato> hm.. ok...
[07:46] <Jucato> and ./configure requires what?
[07:46] <Forge> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[07:46] <Forge> I had to install X ones earlier
[07:46] <Jucato> !pastebin | Forge
[07:46] <ubotu> Forge: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:47] <Forge> grrr it wasn't 2 lines!
[07:47] <Jucato> Forge: using that, pastebin the errors when you try to install libqt3-mt-dev
[07:47] <Forge> I just did paste the error
[07:47] <Jucato> Forge: no that was in anticipation of what I was going to ask you next
[07:47] <Jucato> Forge: and the contents of your sources.list
[07:47] <Jucato> so 2 pastes :)
[07:47] <Forge> oh ok
[07:47] <Forge> sources.list
[07:47] <Forge> ok brb I'll find it 4 u
[07:48] <Forge> ok this one needs pastebin
[07:48] <Jucato> Forge: how about the errors when you're trying to install libqt3-mt-dev?
[07:49] <vegasmcpc> what's the command to make a new device?
[07:49] <vegasmcpc> isn't it mkdev or something?
[07:49] <Forge> pastebinned
[07:49] <Jucato> link?
[07:50] <Forge> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6999/ ???
[07:50] <Jucato> ok me checks ;)
[07:50] <Forge> first time I used pastebin
[07:50] <vegasmcpc> !mkdev
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkdev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <Forge> shouldn't u be able to search by user or something?
[07:51] <Jucato> Forge: no. that's how pastebin works. you give the URL that comes out after pasting
[07:51] <Jucato> Forge: now please pastebin the errors when you try to install libqt3-mt-dev
[07:52] <Forge> theres just one
[07:52] <Forge> I already pasted the line above
[07:52] <Forge> oh errors?
[07:52] <Forge> its in adept no errors, just says BREAK (install)
[07:52] <Jucato> when you try to sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[07:52] <Jucato> use apt-get :)
[07:52] <Forge> ok
[07:53] <Jucato> hm.. did you install stuff from Debian's repository????
[07:53] <Forge> I prolly did at some stage...
[07:53] <Jucato> oh krap
[07:53] <Jucato> this is going to be difficult...
[07:53] <root> spain???
[07:54] <Forge>  libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: libfontconfig1-dev but it is not going to be installed
[07:54] <Forge>                  Depends: libxft-dev but it is not going to be installed
[07:54] <Jucato> Forge: only those two?
[07:55] <Forge> yup but it says under it E: broken packages
[07:55] <Forge> which is strange there shouldn't be anything broken
[07:55] <Jucato> unless you installed/upgraded stuff from some non-Kubuntu compatible repo, which could have messed things up
[07:55] <Forge> there weren't any broken ones that I know of yesterday
[07:55] <root> spain
[07:56] <Forge> its just the qt stuff that could have broken things
[07:56] <root> i need help in spanhis
[07:56] <root> please
[07:56] <Jucato> !es | root
[07:56] <ubotu> root: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:57] <Jucato> hm..
[07:57] <piro_> haha
[07:57] <piro_> thats a nice feature
[07:57] <Jucato> Forge: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:57] <Jucato> or wait
[07:57] <Jucato> no. no need.
[07:57] <niblets> I was told on the Amarok channel that my Amarok  package is binary incompatible. Is there anyway to change it?
[07:58] <Forge> nothing
[07:58] <Jucato> Forge: try installing those two (libfontconfig and libxft) (use apt-get)
[07:58] <Jucato> Forge: oh btw, please disable the edgy-proposed repositories too
[07:58] <Forge> E: Couldn't find package libfontconfig
[07:59] <Jucato> er?
[07:59] <Jucato> Forge: Depends: libfontconfig1-dev but it is not going to be installed <--- that libfontconfig
[07:59] <Jucato> Depends: libxft-dev but it is not going to be installed <--- that libxft
[08:00] <Forge> libfontconfig1-dev
[08:00] <Forge> uh?  libfontconfig1-dev: Depends: libfontconfig1 (= 2.3.2-7ubuntu2) but 2.4.2-1 is to be installed
[08:01] <Jucato> hm.. wait
[08:01] <Forge> proposed repos?
[08:02] <Jucato> Forge: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe and deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe
[08:02] <Jucato> disable them (put a # at the beginning)
[08:02] <Forge> yes commenting them out
[08:03] <Jucato> then "sudo apt-get update" and try installing again
[08:03] <Forge> why's it try and check through lotsa translation repos?
[08:03] <Forge> they're not even in the sources.list
[08:04] <Jucato> huh?
[08:04] <Forge> eg:
[08:04] <Forge> Ign http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates/restricted Translation-en_US
[08:04] <Forge> Ign http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main Translation-en_US
[08:04] <niblets> Darn
[08:04] <Jucato> just the localisation
[08:04] <Jucato> oh krap... I think I know why it's breaking... and this is what I feared...
[08:05] <Forge> oh and now it complains theres duplication
[08:05] <Forge> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[08:05] <niblets> Konversation isnt good today
[08:06] <Forge> niblets? in what way?
[08:06] <codyt> Never cared for Konversation myself.
[08:06] <Jucato> Forge: which did you disable? I'm referring to lines 38  and 39, which are duplicates of 34 and 35
[08:06] <niblets> Both this channel and Amarok gave me half answers, and then didnt elaborate as to how I can fix it
[08:06] <Forge> um brb
[08:07] <Jucato> niblets: how did it become Konversation's fault?
[08:07] <Forge> yes 38 and 39 are the ones I removed
[08:07] <Jucato> Forge: can you pastebin your new sources.list again?
[08:07] <Forge> 34 and 35 were already commented out
[08:07] <Jucato> Forge: but anyway, I think I no the problem
[08:08] <Mena> Jucto, how to make loading karamba themes doesnt appear in the kicker(taskbar)
[08:08] <Mena> jucato*
[08:08] <niblets> Jucato It didnt, but it doesn't make it good either!
[08:08] <niblets> lol
[08:08] <Forge> karumba themes?
[08:08] <Mena> karamba*
[08:08] <Forge> yeah t hat
[08:08] <niblets> I was talking about the community, as opposed to the softwar
[08:09] <Jucato> Forge: perhaps at one time, you had the Debian unstable enabled, and  it upgraded packages from Ubuntu's to Debian's packages
[08:09] <Jucato> niblets: I still don't get it... Konversation community?
[08:09] <Forge> does that mean I need debian qt packages?
[08:09] <Jucato> Forge: it means you have successfully managed to mess your system up...
[08:09] <Forge> or that its just a strict versioning issue?
[08:09] <Jucato> and that future package installations will most probably fail as well
[08:10] <niblets> Jucato the people talking on the channels. IE: the community, isnt as good (responsive) as it usually is
[08:10] <Jucato> niblets: ok....
[08:10] <niblets> Jucato I was just voicing my disappointment that I can't sort my problem out
[08:11] <Forge> Jucato, so why won't a rewind work?
[08:11] <Jucato> although the amarok devs are in #amarok too
[08:11] <Forge> ie downgrade the nonubuntu (ala debian) ones... but how to distinguish/find them?
[08:12] <Jucato> niblets: unfortunately that's how IRC support in FOSS projects work... you can't expect to get an answer immediately or even sometimes don't get an answer at all
[08:12] <Agent_bob> who might not know all the answers to all questions <<<  ?  except jucato.    he's my hero.  he's smart.
[08:12] <Jucato> Forge: that I'm not sure on how to do. it's not just a versioning issue, although it's obvious that Debian Unstable's versions are more updated that Kubuntu Edgy's
[08:12] <Forge> hehe yeah Jucato knows alot about kubuntu :)
[08:12] <Jucato> er? no
[08:12] <niblets> Jucato Oh yea, I know that. I was just hopeful, is all
[08:12] <Jucato> there are more who know more than me
[08:13] <Jucato> niblets: don't lose hope yet
[08:13] <Agent_bob> nunt uh.
[08:13] <Jucato> niblets: for one, it's night time for half of the world
[08:13] <Forge> niblets what was your problem anyway?
[08:13] <Jucato> and Europe is just waking up
[08:14] <niblets> Forge Amarok wont connect to my iPod. It will see it, but when I try to set up media devices and apply "apple iPod device" it gets a message about a faulty plugin
[08:14] <niblets> Jucato yea, I know, the only problem is, I go to sleep when they wake up!
[08:14] <Agent_bob> niblets this is linux.  it's your software.   you fix it.  you own it.    as much as any of the rest of us do, that is...
[08:14] <Jucato> niblets: this is o Kubuntu dapper?
[08:15] <Jucato> ere
[08:15] <Jucato> Edgy
[08:15] <Forge> AgentBob thats harsh
[08:15] <niblets> Jucato its edgy
[08:15] <Forge> sure its our software but if we don't know how to fix it ....
[08:15] <Forge> niblets is it practical to reinstall thigns?
[08:16] <Agent_bob> Forge let me guess.... ah we "plug and get mad"  ?
[08:16] <niblets> Agent_bob is this not a HELP program? Surely asking for help is a given here? If you dont like to give out help, or aren't asking for help, this isnt the place for you?
[08:16] <Jucato> Forge: unfortunately, I don't know of a solution for  you, as I don't know to what extent that damage has been... the only option I can think of right now is to upgrade to Feisty... which is as stable as Debian unstable right now... (not to mention probably having the same versions)
[08:16] <niblets> Forge things being???
[08:16] <Forge> like firstly plugins, then probably amarok and/or ipod apps
[08:16] <Agent_bob> niblets touchy.    didn't mean to yank your chain dude.
[08:16] <Jucato> niblets: you can probably try asking again a bit later when more people are... both here an in #amarok
[08:17] <Agent_bob> niblets what is the issue ?
[08:17] <niblets> It is practical from the point of view I can do it with help. Impractical, that I am newer to linux than most.
[08:17] <Forge> niblets if you have kubuntu and use adept you should be fine
[08:17] <Jucato> er.. "when more people are in"
[08:17] <niblets> Agent_bob Sorry to sound snide, no hard feelings
[08:17] <Forge> no need for experience, just seach/install/ununstall/reinstall the related packages...
[08:18] <niblets> Forge I use adept, yea
[08:18] <Jucato> niblets: but I'm sure the people in #amarok would know best. just have to be patient and wait. or
[08:18] <Jucato> niblets: try researching while waiting
[08:18] <Agent_bob> niblets ah ipod problems... have see that mentioned a lot.   have you searched on the wiki/forums ?
[08:18] <Jucato> http://www.ubuntuforums.org http://kubuntuforums.net and http://www.google.com are good places to start
[08:18] <Jucato> !ipod
[08:18] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[08:18] <Jucato> niblets: that too ^^^
[08:19] <Forge> personally I don't like ipods
[08:19] <Agent_bob> !rockbox
[08:19] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[08:19] <niblets> Jucato yea, I have been searching for a few days, and I tried searching the error message, but got no hits, and couldn't find anything related
[08:19] <harmental> hey everybody....what do you recomend for comparing files: Kompare, Kdiff3 or Xxdiff?
[08:20] <Agent_bob> diff
[08:20] <Forge> any and/or all
[08:20] <Forge> are you installing krusader?
[08:20] <niblets> I tried that walkthrough thing a while back, no avail. Would you like a pastebin of the error message? Should make it a might easier to know what the problem is?
[08:20] <Agent_bob> did you visit  http://www.rockbox.org/ ?
[08:20] <harmental> Forge: yeap
[08:21] <Jucato> harmental: I use kompare if I already have a .diff, and kdiff3 when I just want a quick look of 2 text files
[08:21] <Forge> harmental they're all optional
[08:21] <niblets> Agent_bob oh, sorry, no didnt see that message, going now...
[08:21] <Jucato> niblets: no harm in a pastebin of the errors
[08:21] <harmental> Jucato: ok...but which one do you recommend for Krusader?
[08:21] <Agent_bob> meh doesn't matter i'm not here to help anyway.  just idling.
[08:22] <Forge> probably kompare
[08:22] <Jucato> hm.. that I wouldn't know.. I don't use Krusader :)
[08:22] <Forge> since its kde
[08:22] <Forge> krusader is kewl
[08:22] <Jucato> Forge: kompare and kdiff3 are both KDE :)
[08:22] <Agent_bob> and a hero because he's so smart.
[08:22] <Forge> yeah and some other stuff uses kdiff3 from memory
[08:23] <niblets> gar, what was the pastebin site again?
[08:23] <Jucato> !pastebin | niblets
[08:23] <ubotu> niblets: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:27] <vegasmcpc> what's the command to make a new mount point?
[08:27] <niblets> Ok, so the objective is to connect the iPod to Amarok to allow the usual music crap that you do with iPods, the error is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7001/
[08:27] <Agent_bob> mkdir /blah
[08:28] <Jucato> !mount
[08:28] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:28] <Jucato> bah
[08:28] <Jucato> useless lol
[08:28] <Agent_bob> mountpoint < ^
[08:29] <Jucato> !mountpoint
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountpoint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Jucato> hm...
[08:29] <Jucato> !mounting
[08:29] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:29] <Jucato> ok that's just... um..
[08:29] <Agent_bob> so go write us a factoid
[08:29] <harmental> ok...so ill give Kompare a try.....
[08:30] <Jucato> some other time
[08:30] <harmental> Jucato: what do you mean by "if I already have a .diff"?
[08:30] <Jucato> harmental: if I already have a .diff file to work with vs. I take 2 text files and compare them
[08:31] <harmental> ooooh....i've never used diff files......
[08:31] <Jucato> :)
[08:31] <harmental> kind of newbie here.....
[08:31] <niblets> Jucato done =D
[08:31] <Jucato> niblets: fixed?
[08:32] <niblets> Jucato No, sadly. Just pastebinned (an acheivement to be proud of, apparently)
[08:32] <Jucato> ah lol
[08:32] <Jucato> what's the URL?
[08:32] <Jucato> link to your pastebin
[08:32] <niblets> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7001/
[08:35] <Jucato> niblets: what version of amarok is this?
[08:35] <niblets> 1.4.4
[08:36] <niblets> Jucato ^^
[08:36] <Jucato> ok for a while...
[08:39] <one> what is the easiest way to send audiostream to a shoutcast server ?
[08:40] <Jucato> niblets: ok, I'm stumped... don't know where to go to.. :(
[08:40] <niblets> Jucato That's the conclusion I came to. Over in the Amarok channel, one of the people said that it was my Amarok that it was binary inmopatible. But didnt elaborate
[08:41] <Jucato> niblets: ask him to elaborate.
[08:41] <Jucato> :D
[08:41] <Jucato> no really, ask him
[08:41] <Jucato> but I don't know what do further, as I have no iPod...
[08:41] <Jucato> I have no experience
[08:42] <Agent_bob> that was my short comming also.
[08:42] <niblets> Jucato he is gone from the channel
[08:42] <Jucato> niblets: try again some other time, or maybe try asking again in #amarok later
[08:43] <Jucato> that's the only help/advice I can give right now
[08:43] <niblets> Jucato that's cool. Thanks.
[08:44] <niblets> I was thinking of a full system reinstall. Just for shoots and giggles
[08:44] <Agent_bob> niblets also "sometimes"  and make that the key word   sometimes you can get a real 'guru' in ##linux
[08:44] <scribz> got a wierd process in htop, root running -:0
[08:44] <scribz> is that normal ?
[08:44] <Jucato> yes
[08:44] <Agent_bob> yeah  that's the gui
[08:45] <scribz> x ?
[08:45] <Agent_bob> yep
[08:45] <Jucato> yep
[08:45] <scribz> ah right, thought it would have been called X11 or something
[08:45] <scribz> ta
[08:45] <Agent_bob> i don't have that.    heh but i don't run a gui normally.
[08:46] <scribz> just paranoid about security just now, firestarter shows constant activity even when i'm not doing anything
[08:46] <underdog5004> whenever I try to run rtorrent, I get this message: rtorrent: FileManager::erase(...) could not find FileMeta in container.
[08:46] <underdog5004> anyone know what it means?
[08:46] <Jucato> Agent_bob: look for the kdm process
[08:47] <Agent_bob> no that's xorg  or x11r6  either one.   it's the literal server denotation for the first xserver  :0.0 would be first server first screen.
[08:47] <niblets> Agent_bob what do you mean?
[08:47] <Agent_bob> Jucato no need i don't use a dm
[08:47] <Jucato> Agent_bob: ah, no wonder you don't have that "-:0" :)
[08:47] <underdog5004> ok, nvm, I just deleted my old sessions, and it workded.
[08:48] <Agent_bob> niblets about asking in  ##linux   ?
[08:48] <underdog5004> wait a sec...no it didnt!
[08:48] <Jucato> niblets: btw, does amarok crash when you plugin your ipod?
[08:50] <Agent_bob> my spelling gave me away.....
[08:50] <Jucato> bah anyway... sorry I really don't know about iPod+ Amarok
[08:50] <niblets> Jucato It doesnt crash, it just pops up with that message when I plug in the iPod, and then carries on.
[08:51] <underdog5004> yeah, so rtorrent'll run for about 7 seconds, then close with this message: rtorrent: FileManager::erase(...) could not find FileMeta in container.1/768]  [
[08:51] <Agent_bob> well actually not only do i not use a dm,  login in impossable on this box.
[08:51] <Jucato> O.o
[08:51] <Agent_bob> so a dm would be useless.
[08:52] <Jucato> you and your weird setups
[08:52] <Agent_bob> :)
[08:52] <Jucato> (partitionless disks...)
[08:52] <Agent_bob> loginless accounts
[08:52] <Agent_bob> suidless systems
[08:52] <Jucato> I so hate you for being able to do these things :P
[08:52] <Agent_bob> less is more.
[08:52] <Agent_bob> lol
[08:53] <Agent_bob> no you don't   you secretly laugh at me for being dumb enough to try it....
[08:53] <Jucato> although I did have my own krazy setup for a month
[08:53] <Jucato> you'll laugh if you knew what I did. but not as crazy as yours
[08:53] <Agent_bob> what you did ?
[08:54] <Jucato> installed a command line system (no X), then compiled everything KDE from source
[08:54] <Jucato> :D
[08:54] <Jucato> not so krazy, but definitely krazy
[08:54] <Jucato> anyway, me goes now
[08:55] <Agent_bob> Jucato ok gooday mate.
[08:55] <niblets> Later Jucato, thanks for the help
[08:55] <scribz> Agent_bob: loginless accounts ? - how ?
[08:55] <piro_> later jucato
[08:55] <Agent_bob> scribz init
[08:56] <Lynx-> How can I set up an autorun for a program in KDE?
[08:56] <Agent_bob> !autostart | Lynx-
[08:56] <ubotu> Lynx-: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[08:56] <Lynx-> thank you
[08:57] <deathnote> hi how do i find out what debian i'm using? besides uname -r
[08:57] <deathnote> like.. i wanna find out i'm using ubuntu or woody or sarge
[08:58] <underdog5004> ok, I got the rtorrent: FileManager::erase(...) could not find FileMeta in container.1/768]   thing figured out. I was pointing rtorrent to the wrong dir. I recently moved all rtorrent stuff to /media/storage, instead of ~/rtorrent.
[08:59] <piro_> so sshd is running but i think i might be screwed on logging in due to my public keys in .ssh or something cause my password isn't invalid so i imagine its permission denied due to my keys, anyway to just start over with keys?
[08:59] <Agent_bob> deathnote ubuntu != debian.     but lsb_release -a
[09:00] <chavo> deathnote, cat /etc/issue
[09:00] <Agent_bob> piro_ you can rm .ssh*   that will reset the accounts ssh keys
[09:01] <lu-bao> GKrellM is a single process stack of system monitors which supports applying themes. is that one included inside kubuntu repository? :)
[09:01] <piro_> thx will try that
[09:01] <chavo> lu-bao, yes
[09:01] <lu-bao> chavo, nice :D thx ^^
[09:01] <Agent_bob> underdog5004 nice :)     most of my problems turn out to be   'pebcak'  too
[09:02] <Agent_bob> chavo does  lsb_release -a    not work for you ?
[09:02] <Agent_bob> and do you never adjust the login messages ?
[09:02] <lu-bao> chavo, does GKrellM has another name for KDE ? or doesnt G stay for gnome?
[09:03] <chavo> lu-bao, it uses gtk for the configuration window
[09:03] <lu-bao> chavo, thank you :)
[09:03] <chavo> but runs perfectly in kde
[09:04] <lu-bao> and where to get gkrellm2 ? cause i found a manual clock plugin for gkrellm2 but cant find gkrellm2 package or similiar
[09:04] <piro_> well cleaned out .ssh, put putty still gives me access denied, and ssh'ing from an outside host into my home machine still gives me permission denied when using only password =|
[09:04] <Agent_bob> !gkrellm2
[09:04] <chavo> apt-get install gkrellm will install gkrellm2
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gkrellm2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <Agent_bob> !gkrellm
[09:05] <ubotu> gkrellm: The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.9-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2060 kB
[09:06] <Agent_bob> piro_ you can     ssh name@localhost
[09:06] <Agent_bob> local testing.
[09:06] <Agent_bob> all you need is sshd running and lo up
[09:07] <piro_> ya got both of those up
[09:07] <piro_> and i have been doing local and thats where i am getting permission denied
[09:07] <Agent_bob> so can you ssh in as yourself into localhost ?
[09:08] <piro_> no lol, thats the thing
[09:08] <Agent_bob> firewall ?
[09:08] <chavo> you should be able to
[09:08] <piro_> well i get permission denied though not timeout or anything like that
[09:08] <Agent_bob> yeah unless iptables is blocking it.
[09:08] <piro_> and my firewall is forwarded 22
[09:08] <piro_> on monowall
[09:09] <piro_> i read something about iptables some where and i was going to come back to that as a last resort
[09:09] <Agent_bob> looks like it needs to be a starting point.
[09:10] <piro_> like i recleared .ssh and then ran localhost again and i get the rsa key fingerprint prompt
[09:10] <piro_> then did the yes, and entered password and permission denied, please try again, if it was something network related, wouldn't i not be able to get that far?
[09:11] <Agent_bob> pidof sshd
[09:11] <ubuntu_> how do i run a program such as qtparted as root in the live cd?
[09:12] <Agent_bob> sudo command.
[09:12] <Agent_bob> sudo qtparted
[09:12] <piro_> done, should  i kill it?
[09:12] <Agent_bob> no.
[09:12] <Agent_bob> it does give ONE pid ?
[09:12] <piro_> yup
[09:12] <Agent_bob> k
[09:13] <Agent_bob> ifconfig | grep ' lo '
[09:13] <piro_> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[09:13] <ubuntu_> it seys no device found, maby your not using root user
[09:14] <Agent_bob> piro_  iptables -L | grep 22
[09:14] <ubuntu_> hmm, is there a password to logg into root on the live cd?
[09:14] <Agent_bob> no
[09:15] <Agent_bob> sudo is running it as root.  that's not the issue.
[09:15] <kraut> moin
[09:15] <piro_> after a sudo command went in perfectly, no msgs
[09:15] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_   sudo -i   if you must.
[09:16] <Agent_bob> piro_ you can drop the   | grep part and see all rules
[09:16] <deathnote> !boot
[09:16] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:16] <deathnote> !bootmenu
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootmenu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <piro_> ah ok, well i get input forward and output and they are all blank
[09:17] <Agent_bob> i'm still thinking iptables is the problem.   but i'm no network nothin'
[09:17] <Agent_bob> allow  and  deny ?
[09:17] <piro_> hm, thats lame, i didn't think i'd have done anything that would make my network on my local machine so complicated
[09:17] <piro_> nothing
[09:17] <piro_> just policy accept in parens on all 3 categories
[09:18] <Agent_bob> ok it's not iptables.
[09:18] <Agent_bob> hmmmm
[09:19] <piro_> yup hehe
[09:19] <ubuntu_> whats the command to run a super user konsole
[09:19] <deathnote> how does my machine choose which kernel to boot up if i got two? if i don't have grub
[09:19] <Agent_bob> been so long sense i setup ssh i don't recall if i "had" to do anything   i know i did change some configs but, don't think it was a must to get it working.  just added security.
[09:20] <Agent_bob> if you don't have grub ?
[09:20] <piro_> ya figured as much, i just added a new user to the local and went straight to try ssh and same thing so i am lost
[09:20] <piro_> ill check the config files and come back
[09:20] <Agent_bob> deathnote did you setup lilo ?
[09:20] <deathnote> i saw a boot.b -> boot-menu.b in my /boot but boot-menu.b doesn't exist
[09:21] <deathnote> Agent_bob: no but how can i default my machine to boot up another kernel?
[09:21] <Agent_bob> piro_ /etc/ssh/sshd.conf iirc
[09:22] <intelikey> modem reset.
[09:22] <intelikey> deathnote if you didn't setup lilo you have grub.
[09:22] <intelikey> so you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:22] <deathnote> no i don't see grub in the /boot directory
[09:23] <intelikey> i know of two ways that's possable.  but neither would be default.
[09:23] <deathnote> ok yes i have lilo
[09:23] <deathnote> haha
[09:23] <deathnote> found /etc/lilo.conf
[09:24] <intelikey> 1. you have another linux system and you are using the lilo/grub from that system to boot this one.    2. you have a boot partitions and set it to NOT mount.
[09:24] <intelikey> what verstion is that  feisty ?
[09:25] <deathnote> i think i got a sarge on this machine
[09:25] <deathnote> how to find out?
[09:25] <intelikey> i'm not fameliar with feisty   but everything from warty to edgy used grub by default
[09:25] <intelikey> oh  debian.
[09:25] <intelikey> no wonder.
[09:26] <intelikey> YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO TELL US IF IT'S NOT *BUNTU !
[09:26] <deathnote> ./etc/debian_version says 3.1 so i guess its sarge
[09:26] <intelikey> so for that mistake.   go ask in   #debian.
[09:26] <negxenta> What is the arptable command to disable ARP for all IPs on the LAN except for 192.168.0.1?
[09:27] <intelikey> deathnote wait.  i think there is a /etc/debian_version file in ubuntu too      what does   lsb_release -a   tell you ?
[09:28] <deathnote> ohh its edgy! haha sorry i'm confused
[09:28] <piro_> Agent_bob: okay, i just went ahead and removed it and reinstalled it and sure enough that did the trick
[09:28] <deathnote> ok........ anyway i got it
[09:28] <piro_> no idea wtf was going on but thanks for you help
[09:29] <intelikey> piro_ np.  welcome.
[09:30] <piro_> now to get freenx working with keys hehe
[09:30] <intelikey> deathnote you have me really curious.   did you say that you 'did not setup lilo'  and it is edgy installed  ???   that don't make sense to me.   edgy would have installed grub unless you setup lilo on purpose at install time.
[09:31] <nomad111> i want to shoot myself now
[09:31] <nomad111> in all of linux world there is no decent circuit analysis program
[09:31] <intelikey> nomad111 what's wrong ?  no gun ?
[09:31] <intelikey> sorry bad joke.
[09:32] <nomad111> lol
[09:32] <deathnote> yeah i saw it already.. grub
[09:32] <nomad111> i cant find anything good
[09:32] <deathnote> the menu file
[09:32] <nomad111> oregano is the closest thing to wat i want and its crap
[09:32] <nomad111> i dont think its maintained anymore
[09:33] <ubuntu_> I have a blank unforatted SDD what can I do to mount it on the live cd?
[09:33] <intelikey> nomad111 i can't say good or not good   but there are several   circuit analysis programs listed in the repos.   i counted like 7 or 8 i think
[09:33] <nomad111> intelikey: anologue circuit analysis
[09:33] <nomad111> not logic
[09:34] <nomad111> they are all logic/digital analyis
[09:34] <nomad111> ie gates and ic's
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[09:34] <nomad111> lol
[09:34] <intelikey> sorry
[09:35] <intelikey> ubuntu_  mke2fs /dev/sdd  <<< that's probably not the address.  you said sdd  so i ran with it.       and   mount /dev/sdd /mnt
[09:36] <deathnote> oh ok......i got another machine that boots on lilo
[09:36] <intelikey> ubuntu_   sudo all that of course.     also     fdisk -l    should show the addressing.
[09:36] <ubuntu_> it could be /dev/sda , or somthing, how do i look it up
[09:36] <deathnote> so i wanna change the kernel to the older one when it boot..and so i change the line default=xxx in lilo.conf
[09:36] <ubuntu_> oh fdisk -l
[09:37] <intelikey> ubuntu_ if you are going to use fdisk  you might like   cfdisk   better
[09:37] <ubuntu_> ok i try that
[09:37] <ubuntu_> a durrr
[09:38] <deathnote> oh i forgot to run lilo after making change nvmind
[09:38] <intelikey> ubuntu_  you know fdisk/cfdisk is for making partitions.   mke2fs is for making a file system on the partition.
[09:39] <tuco> Hello guys. When I run sudo update I get this: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[09:39] <intelikey> deathnote heh that happens.
[09:39] <tuco> anybody knows why?
[09:39] <ubuntu_> oh k ill try to mkefs
[09:39] <intelikey> mke2fs
[09:40] <Jucato> tuco: apt-get or Adept might have been interrupted while it was installing someting. run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" to fix it
[09:40] <jochu1> hi, I asked on #ubuntu
[09:40] <jochu1> but
[09:40] <deathnote> and now shits happen..it doesn't boot up now
[09:40] <jochu1> no answer
[09:40] <intelikey> jucato you back.....   ?
[09:40] <jochu1> is there a way to check if apt-get installed verything correct?
[09:40] <Jucato> no intelikey, I'm a figment of Agent_Bob's imagination
[09:40] <jochu1> *everything
[09:41] <intelikey> jochu1 sure.   sudo apt-get install -f
[09:41] <intelikey> Jucato :)
[09:41] <jochu1> intelikey: thnx :-) ... I was checking the manpage but I skipped reading it ... sorry!
[09:42] <intelikey> i think i'm starting to corrupt your sense of humour Jucato
[09:42] <ubuntu_> the problem Im having is my disk isen't shouwing up
[09:42] <ubuntu_> I'm not very good with the live cd it dosent have any system folders
[09:42] <intelikey> Jucato i meant are you back to help or just poped in for a second and gone again....
[09:43] <Jucato> I'm back to help when/if I can, but I'm not gluing my eyes to Konvi
[09:43] <tuco> it was about flash player for mozilla...i can't seem to install it properly.
[09:43] <ubuntu_> i would use mke2fs if i knew the path
[09:43] <intelikey> Jucato ok cause i need to make rounds.    it's all yours.
[09:45] <ubuntu_> i cant find the mount point to my sata disk
[09:46] <piro_> tried fdisk -l ?
[09:48] <ubuntu_> yes i just typed that in ill see what it did
[09:48] <deathnote> help!!! if i made changes to my lilo.conf and it doesn't boot up because i set some things wrongly, how do i boot up now?
[09:48] <deathnote> help!!! if i made changes to my lilo.conf and it doesn't boot up because i set some things wrongly, how do i boot up now to revert?
[09:48] <labinet07> hello?
[09:48] <deathnote> it says VFS please specify a correct root= somethingsomething..damn
[09:51] <piro_> i used to use a livecd
[09:52] <ubuntu_> note that any time you change /ect/lilo.conf or rebuild or move a kernel image, you need to rerun lilo to rebuild the ,ap file and update LILO
[09:52] <piro_> havent used lilo in forever though
[09:52] <deathnote> i ran lilo
[09:52] <ubuntu_> *map file
[09:52] <deathnote> what else i need to do?
[09:52] <deathnote> i ran lilo
[09:53] <deathnote> how to update LILO?
[09:53] <negxenta> What is the arptable command to disable ARP for all IPs on the LAN except for 192.168.0.1?
[09:53] <deathnote> ok i can get into console using the installation cd and mount the hdd
[09:53] <deathnote> !lilo
[09:53] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[09:53] <tuco> Annoying. Even though flashpluging-non free is installed some site are still asking me for a version 8 minimum!
[09:53] <piro_> www.2advanced.com
[09:53] <Heavenquake> lilo is nice and colorful ^^
[09:54] <deathnote> ubuntu_: how to update LILO?
[09:54] <Jucato> !flash9 | tuco
[09:54] <ubotu> tuco: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:54] <piro_> thats my flash tester rofl
[09:54] <deathnote> i wonder what's wrong.. i modify the lilo.conf to default onto another kernel .. after that i ran lilo
[09:54] <Jucato> tuco: because the default flash is version 7. you have to enable backports to get version 9
[09:54] <ubuntu_> deathnote: save yourself some trouble and learn grub cus thats all i know :P
[09:54] <deathnote> and reboot..and i'm dead
[09:54] <Heavenquake> #kdevelop seems to be dead for the moment. Can I ask here instead?
[09:54] <tuco> I guess I did that Jucato
[09:54] <Heavenquake> or should I seek out #KDE?
[09:55] <Jucato> Heavenquake: depends on what kind of question
[09:55] <tuco> it is also possible to get it from adept too right?
[09:55] <Jucato> Heavenquake: #kdevelop is probably "dead" because it's night time/early morning for half of the world
[09:55] <Jucato> tuco: just enable the backports repository and you can just simply upgrade from flash 7 to 9
[09:56] <Heavenquake> Jucato: I want to be able to insert Code Snippets using keyboard only. I made a shortcut to open the code snippet tab, but cannot insert 'em without using the cursor, which is bad imho.
[09:56] <yaman> need help [09:56] <tuco> how can I do that Jucato?
[09:56] <unix_infidel> flash 9 stable is out for nix?
[09:56] <Jucato> !backports | tuco
[09:56] <ubotu> tuco: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[09:56] <Jucato> unix_infidel: for quite some time now
[09:56] <ubuntu_> when i do fdisk -l it lists nothing, ahhh that is crazy
[09:56] <unix_infidel> Jucato: nice, but how's the performance.
[09:56] <Jucato> tuco: basically enable the edgy-backports repository in your sources.list
[09:56] <unix_infidel> flash + os x doesnt play well at all.
[09:57] <Jucato> or dapper-backports if you're on dapper
[09:57] <piro_> ubuntu_: do sudo fdisk -l
[09:57] <Jucato> unix_infidel: so far so good. no problems here
[09:57] <Jucato> Heavenquake: ah, might be a #kde question
[09:58] <ubuntu_> haha same thing I think i'll change some cables and bios options
[09:58] <ubuntu_> bbl
[09:58] <yaman> need help [09:58] <tuco> how do I get to my source list Jucato?
[09:58] <Jucato> tuco: Adept Manager -> View -> Manage Repositories
[09:59] <piro_> ./etc/apt/sources.list
[09:59] <Jucato> tuco: same way you go to it to enable multiverse
[10:00] <tuco> It is better to do it in source list directly yes?
[10:00] <yaman> hello need a small fav here
[10:00] <Jucato> either way will do
[10:00] <yaman> need help [10:01] <Jucato> where did you lose the shutdown button? when you're on GNOME or on KDE?
[10:01] <Jucato> yaman: are you still using GDM? what Ubuntu uses to login? or KDM (Kubuntu's)
[10:02] <yaman> jucato: on the kde
[10:02] <tuco> need to be root to...forgot the command
[10:02] <Jucato> tuco: for what?
[10:02] <yaman> jucato: kde
[10:02] <tuco> need to be in root to add the list
[10:02] <tuco> i can't save the file otherwise
[10:02] <Jucato> yaman: here's the thing. If you're in KDE but you used GDM to log in, you won't see a shutdown or restart option, only an End Session/Logout
[10:02] <Jucato> tuco: what are you using?
[10:03] <yaman> jucato : yeah this what happining !!! what should i do to fix this ?
[10:03] <Jucato> tuco: sudo (if you're using a command line text editor) or kdesu (if you're using Kate)
[10:03] <tuco> kdesu :-)
[10:04] <Jucato> yaman: I'm afraid there's nothing you can do. you'll still have that shutdown button if you're in GNOME and used GDM.
[10:04] <Jucato> yaman: you can change GDM and use KDM instead, however
[10:04] <vlt> Hello. what's the name of the program to admin system settings ("systejm settings" in K start menu)?
[10:04] <Jucato> yaman: if you do that, you'll have no Shutdown option when you're in GNOME and used KDM to login
[10:04] <Jucato> vlt: what do you mean?
[10:04] <yaman> jucato: mmm i think i don
[10:05] <tuco> But I need to be as root to be able to save the sources list Jucato. Forgot how to do that
[10:05] <ubuntu_> haha i think i messed up the cabling
[10:05] <yaman> jucato: i think i don't understand how to switch between them cause i am new user !! but thanx any way am still have the poweroff command :(
[10:05] <vlt> Jucato: The last entry in KDE's start button menu in Programs is called "system settings". What's the name of the process when I just want to run it standalone?
[10:06] <Jucato> vlt: systemsettings
[10:06] <Jucato> but I don't understand what you mean by "run it standalone"
[10:07] <Jucato> vlt: the official name of the package is actually kde-systemsettings :)
[10:07] <Jucato> but systemsettings is the command name
[10:07] <ebcd> Buongiorno
[10:08] <ubuntu_> installing kubuntu now ty whoever was helping me
[10:08] <vlt> Jucato: ok ;-)
[10:08] <tuco> damn I get this now : E: Malformed line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[10:09] <Sativa007> hello, i'm searching for drivers of my ATI card, where can i find them?
[10:09] <deathnote> i need help for lilo can somebody help
[10:09] <Jucato> tuco: what's in line 37 of your sources.list?
[10:10] <tuco> Guys how do I get into sources list in kdesu as root?
[10:10] <tuco> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:10] <deathnote> helppppppp after making changes to my lilo.conf and i can't boot up
[10:10] <deathnote> how to revert
[10:10] <Jucato> hm..
[10:10] <Jucato> !pastebin | tuco
[10:10] <ubotu> tuco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:10] <tuco> at the end of the line...so need to remove it
[10:10] <Jucato> tuco: please pastebin the whole sources.list?
[10:11] <tuco> ok sure
[10:11] <berom> hello everybody
[10:11] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7008/
[10:13] <KennethP> How do I upgrade my KDE 3.5.5 to 3.5.6 on Edgy? (If advisable at all?)
[10:13] <Jucato> tuco: actually, delte line 37
[10:14] <devin_> Hey all!! Im having trouble trying to figure this out! Im trying to install ut2003 and everytime i run the installer i get mount: /dev/ is not a block device im guess it has something to do with being an out dated installer and its looking in the wrong place but im not sure how to work around it
[10:14] <Jucato> tuco: then in line 28, remove the "#"
[10:14] <Jucato> KennethP: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[10:14] <tuco> I know Jucato, I need to be as root. How can I go as root to do that please?
[10:14] <Jucato> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:14] <KennethP> Jucato: Tnx
[10:15] <dimas__> nickname dimas
[10:16] <tuco> ok done Jucato. So now back to square one
[10:16] <tuco> adding the backports :-)
[10:16] <Jucato> tuco: then "sudo apt-get update"
[10:16] <Jucato> tuco: and once it has updated successfully, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to update to Flash 9
[10:16] <tuco> but I don't have the backports repo in there do I?
[10:17] <Jucato> tuco: line 28 and 29 are your backports repo
[10:17] <Jucato> line 28 is the binary repo, line 29 is the source code repo
[10:17] <Jucato> you only need to remove the "#" at the beginning of line 28
[10:17] <tuco> are you sure?
[10:18] <Jucato> tuco: # deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse  <--- this one
[10:18] <Jucato> yes I'm sure
[10:18] <mrynit> any one familar with nvidia drivers for kubuntu? i have a FeForce4 MX intigrated GPU
[10:19] <tuco> sudo apt-get update
[10:19] <tuco> and upgrade after found nothing!
[10:19] <Jucato> tuco: pastebin your new sources.list again please?
[10:20] <mrynit> I check on nvidia's page and that driver is not upported in the current release. the driver is under a legacy package but i cant find it on nvidia's site
[10:21] <Jucato> !nvidia | mrynit
[10:21] <ubotu> mrynit: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:21] <tuco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7009/ they are yes but doesn't upgrade anything.
[10:22] <juanma_> hola
[10:22] <Jucato> tuco: you didn't remove the "#" from line 28 as I have said
[10:22] <juanma_> alguien habla espaol
[10:22] <ubuntu_> you know how ubuntu has a flashy upgrade now button, is sudo apt-get update the equivalent to that
[10:22] <Jucato> !es | juanma_
[10:22] <ubotu> juanma_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:22] <renato> juanma_>
[10:22] <ubuntu_> sorry update now *
[10:22] <tuco> mate when I count from the top down to line 28 that is this line  Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
[10:23] <renato> juanma_ yo hablo espaol pero creo que hayan unos canales de ubuntu en espaol donde podras encontrar aiuda
[10:23] <Jucato> tuco: I already showed you the line that you need to enable.
 tuco: # deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse  <--- this one
[10:24] <Jucato> tuco: that's line 28 in the pastebin
[10:24] <tuco> ahhhh ok it makes senses.
[10:24] <tuco> well just being logical here nothing else :-)
[10:25] <ubuntu_> whats the kubuntu equivalent of ubuntus flashy update now button?
[10:25] <ubuntu_> sudo apt-get update?
[10:25] <mrynit> synaptic?
[10:25] <ubuntu_> dose the same thing right?
[10:25] <mrynit> synaptic is a nice gui for getting packages
[10:26] <mrynit> thats what i use in debian
[10:26] <ubuntu_> well then synaptic is always running in ubuntu right?
[10:26] <tuco> Now it is working thank you for your help kind sir :-)
[10:26] <ubuntu_> because when you start up it requests updates
[10:27] <Jucato> ubuntu_: that's just the update manager checking if there are updates available
[10:27] <ubuntu_> well nm my install work is done so I restart now
[10:28] <toadman> is ubuntu always so unstable???????
[10:29] <toadman> fuck whatever im goin back to fedora core
[10:30] <mrynit> whats the differance bettween unbuntu and kunbuntu? just KDE?
[10:30] <Jucato> yes. and that difference is a lot
[10:30] <Jucato> (KDE + the default apps, except for OpenOffice)
[10:31] <mrynit> so that affects display drivers? im trying to get berly to work on a old GeForce4 MX
[10:31] <Jucato> no
[10:31] <tuco> Thanks for your help Jucato. The Kubuntu community is what made ditched you know whom for this lovely OS.
[10:31] <mrynit> ok, thats good
[10:31] <yaman> jucato: kde works but i can't connect by vnc with it ..y?
[10:31] <Jucato> anything running below KDE (X, kernel, modules, etc) are common to both
[10:31] <Jucato> yaman: sorry, no idea about vnc
[10:32] <Jucato> tuco: you're very much welcome
[10:32] <tuco> You rock Dude ;-)
[10:32] <piro_> yaman: check into freenx
[10:33] <yaman> piro:thnks
[10:33] <mrynit> yaman: is it a networking problem with vnc?
[10:34] <piro_> works great with low bandwidth connections, and runs through ssh so its like always avail. if you got everything setup right
[10:34] <renato> hi, anyone with experience with postfix?
[10:34] <lu-bao> wah cool xD
[10:36] <yaman> it was working on Gnome ubuntu, but with KDE it didnt
[10:38] <emonkey> Please vote here:
[10:38] <emonkey> http://www.dellideastorm.com/article/show/63132/Ubuntu__Kubuntu_Linux
[10:39] <mrynit> emonkey is a bot?
[10:39] <emonkey> no why?
[10:39] <mrynit> nvm
[10:40] <piro_> lol
[10:40] <piro_> i heard about that
[10:40] <emonkey> :)
[10:40] <piro_> getting dell to send out there comps with buntu
[10:40] <emonkey> if it works, that would be great
[10:40] <emonkey> nothing to lose...sor...
[10:42] <tuco> Voted for your thingy emonkey. Hope it helps promote Kubuntu/Ubuntu
[10:43] <emonkey> thank you :)
[10:43] <emonkey> I hope too
[10:44] <tuco> I mean I am very impressed with what Kubuntu does and what is capable of doing. A new computing experience far from the so called WOW experience!
[10:45] <yaccin> !vista
[10:45] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[10:46] <DeMolay> hihihi
[10:46] <yaccin> !osx
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about osx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <tuco> yes that one...I am trying hard to make my second half forget about it too...
[10:47] <yaccin> :D
[10:47] <yaccin> !macos
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <tuco> I will convince her then we will be set and buggerware free :-)
[10:47] <yaccin> tuco: just make your kubuntu look like vista ;)
[10:48] <tuco> Yuk!
[10:48] <tuco> Nicer you mean ;-)
[10:48] <yaccin> nicer is not hard :P
[10:49] <Tm_T> Hrr, root. :(
[10:49] <yaccin> !root
[10:49] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:49] <yaccin> !rootirc
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootirc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <yaccin> hmm
[10:50] <Tm_T> yaccin: I wonder that same.
[10:50] <yaccin> !ircasroot
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ircasroot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <Tm_T> yaccin: Try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <tuco> Nope. guys a question...when do I make sure that every link I click opens in Fireofx and not Konqueror?
[10:54] <tuco> anyone knows?
[10:54] <googol> !?
[10:55] <tuco> how to make sure that fireofx opens the links and not Konqueror?
[10:55] <mrynit> set browser defualt
[10:55] <piro_> download tabs mix plus helps
[10:55] <piro_> also make sure ff is defauly
[10:56] <tuco> how can I do that Piro?
[10:57] <terenzio> hi
[10:57] <piro_> edit -> preferences -> main tab -> system defaults press check now
[10:58] <terenzio> i'm new in kubuntu's world and i can't get my internet connoction going...can anyone help me??
[10:59] <tuco> where is the edit key sorry?
[10:59] <easytiger> edit key?
[10:59] <piro_> edit tab in task bar at the top next to file and view
[10:59] <piro_> inside of firefox
[11:00] <ccherrett> how do you install mplayer on kubuntu?
[11:00] <tuco> aha aha obviously :-)
[11:00] <mrynit> ccherrett try VLC
[11:00] <ccherrett> mrynit: I like the mplayer-plugin
[11:00] <terenzio> help
[11:00] <terenzio> needed
[11:00] <tuco> but when I click in some of the links from the irc chat for example, they open in Konqueror not FF
[11:00] <ccherrett> does vlc hava a plugin?
[11:00] <yaman> can't connect to the vncserver on the kubuntu-kde no resson .. i could b4 on Gnome ?? any help
[11:01] <mrynit> terenzio how do you connect to the tubes?
[11:01] <ccherrett> mrynit: hmm it is installing a mozilla-plugin
[11:01] <terenzio> how can i get my cel phone seen via bluetooth and use it as a modem?
[11:02] <mrynit> wtf you use your cel phone for internet access?
[11:02] <terenzio> when i run kppp i get an error
[11:02] <mrynit> is this for a laptop?
[11:02] <ccherrett> mrynit: if you are on the road sure
[11:03] <abattoir> terenzio: type bluetooth:/ in konqueror
[11:03] <abattoir> terenzio: and choose the appropriate service
[11:03] <terenzio> it says - /etc/resolv.conf missing
[11:03] <mrynit> ccherrett: he should have said he was on a laptop first
[11:03] <ccherrett> oh I assumed that is what he meant
[11:04] <ccherrett> oh well
[11:04] <papusikha_> uite
[11:04] <terenzio> are you talking about me??
[11:04] <terenzio> laptop?
[11:04] <ccherrett> yes
[11:04] <papusikha_> yes
[11:05] <mrynit> yes
[11:05] <terenzio> sorry, i'm really new to all this...anyway yes i'm running kubuntu on my laptop with a usb bluetooth dongle and a sony z1010 cell phone
[11:06] <terenzio> i just did what you told me to do (abattoir) but it tells me that the file doesn't exist!
[11:07] <viola_> vez
[11:07] <googol> terenzio: i could try to replicate
[11:07] <terenzio> ???
[11:07] <googol> what ur doing, but i hv a desktop and differnt cell phone
[11:08] <terenzio> let's try
[11:08] <googol> k wait till my update finishes
[11:08] <googol> ok its done
[11:09] <abattoir> terenzio: http://www.spiration.co.uk/post/1307 should help you
[11:09] <abattoir> terenzio: it's command-line-ish, but should still do the trick
[11:10] <terenzio> k i'll go and take a look...
[11:11] <abattoir> you most probably have all the packages installed... just check anyways
[11:11] <googol> terenzio: what program are you using to connect you your phone?
[11:11] <googol> to*
[11:15] <googol> terenzio: I seggest you get a bluetooth client program, the one installed by default has a gui?
[11:16] <googol> terenzio: or find out how the command line interface works with bluetooth
[11:19] <googol> terenzio: if your still there ill stay on IRC for more information but I give up, since the options arnt so clear
[11:21] <googol> from what I tested bluetooth dose work by default ...
[11:21] <googol> bbl
[11:21] <mrynit> well turn bluetooth on in the phone first
[11:23] <terenzio> googol:i'm TRYING to use kppp
[11:23] <mrynit> terenzio is blue tooth turned on? inside your phone
[11:24] <terenzio> yes bluetooth is on and if i run hcitool scan i see the MAC adress
[11:25] <terenzio> and it's name
[11:25] <aliasgherman> Often right clicking while on KDE opens the KDE crash handler.
[11:25] <mrynit> thats a good start
[11:29] <renato> hi, has anybody in here experience with postfix?
[11:33] <googol> in gnome ctr-H shows hidden folders in natulis, how do I show hidden folders in konqueror?
[11:34] <PeS> googol: select "show hidden files" in view menu
[11:34] <lu-bao> mh kubuntu is the really first distribution and bundle what really fits "all" my needs :D nice work team :D
[11:34] <Jucato> googol: View menu -> Show Hidden Files. you can set  keyboard shortcut in Settings -> Configure Shortcuts
[11:35] <mrynit> good bye
[11:35] <googol> oh good, that was easy
[11:35] <lu-bao> i have 3D i have all programs running and it supports everything of my notebook perfectly i am so happy about kubuntu :)
[11:36] <darthdual> Hey all, Anyone know how to share internet connection through another ethernet interface on ubuntu
[11:36] <lu-bao> Jucato, XD
[11:36] <PeS> lu-bao: vote for Kubuntu
[11:36] <lu-bao> PeS, huh? vote? :)
[11:37] <Jucato> next elections
[11:37] <PeS> lu-bao: yep --> Distrowatch
[11:37] <lu-bao> PeS, dont know this website but ill search for it :)
[11:38] <lu-bao> how to vote for kubuntu? :)
[11:38] <googol> i belive i was brain washed by gnome for far too long :(
[11:38] <PeS> http://distrowatch.com/
[11:38] <googol> kde is way better
[11:38] <lu-bao> PeS, yeah but how to vote :) where do i find vote button for kubuntu :)
[11:40] <lu-bao> PeS, sorry have problems to manage through distrowatch.com never used this site before :(
[11:41] <Contrast83> What's up, everyone?
[11:41] <Contrast83> I have a question about Feisty, hoping someone can help me...
[11:41] <PeS> lu-bao: can't find it ether, ....forget it... :)
[11:41] <lu-bao> PeS, XDDD
[11:42] <Jucato> Contrast83: you might find more help about feisty in #ubuntu+1
[11:42] <Contrast83> If I install from one of the Herd CD's, will I have to do a fresh install for each new Herd, and/or when the final version is released?
[11:42] <Contrast83> Thanks, jucato. I'll check there.
[11:43] <lu-bao> PeS, you know what i mean? :> i am not that stupid but i couldnt find it XD
[11:43] <Jucato> oh you don't need to do that
[11:43] <Jucato> Contrast83: you just need to dist-upgrade daily :)
[11:43] <Contrast83> Cool, thanks for the info.
[11:43] <Contrast83> Peace.
[11:44] <PeS> Contrast83: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:44] <lu-bao> oh is there a opensource alternative similiar with weaverslave to build websites for debian / kubuntu ? :)
[11:44] <googol> hmm i wondered that exact same thing lol.. he left
[11:44] <Jucato> !quanta
[11:44] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2361 kB, installed size 5700 kB
[11:44] <Jucato> !nvu
[11:44] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB
[11:45] <lu-bao> um yeah o.o"
[11:45] <lu-bao> whats the better one? *g*
[11:45] <Jucato> those two would be the top two choices. imho, Nvu, while not being a KDE/Qt app, has better WYSIWYG capabilities
[11:46] <lu-bao> i need a "easy" editor for beginners without big html knowledge :)
[11:46] <Jucato> but since I use WYSIWYG seldomly, I'd go for Quanta because of it's integration with KDE
[11:47] <lu-bao> Jucato, is there an easy one without needed html knowledge? ^^
[11:47] <lu-bao> like graphical editor
[11:47] <Jucato> lu-bao: Nvu would be the one
[11:47] <Jucato> WYSIWYG = What You See Is What You Get
[11:47] <Jucato> drag and drop graphical stuff
[11:47] <emonkey-p> m
[11:48] <lu-bao> mmmh that helped me out thank you Jucato :)
[11:49] <waylandbill> I prefer cms or other server side technology to wysiwyg.
[11:49] <waylandbill> with all the different browsers it never ends up being wyg.
[11:50] <lu-bao> mh nvu looks fine and easy like advanced editor thats nice :)
[11:57] <jax> how do u go about resolving dependencies problem?
[11:58] <Jucato> depends on the problem
[11:58] <Adydaz> apt to instrall
[11:59] <Contrast012083> Does anyone know if there's a Beryl-SVN repository for Feisty yet?
[11:59] <jax> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7016/...for realplayer
[11:59] <Jucato> !beryl | Contrast012083
[11:59] <ubotu> Contrast012083: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:00] <crube> Is there a way to change the font color of my toolbar? I have a transparent toolbar with dark desktop, and open tasks are black, minimized grey etc.
[12:00] <kubuntu610> b
[12:01] <Jucato> !info realplayer
[12:01] <ubotu> Package realplayer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:01] <crube> This beryl thing is quite cool. Runs smooth on my laptop's integrated graphic card
[12:01] <Jucato> crube: you mean the taskbar?
[12:01] <crube> Jucato:  yeah
[12:02] <Jucato> crube: the colors of those follow the color of buttons set in the Color Scheme
[12:02] <jax> jucato: but i have not installed realplayer yet
[12:03] <crube> Jucato:  Thanks.
[12:03] <Jucato> crube: are you on dapper or edgy?
[12:04] <Adydas> dapper sounds so much cooler..
[12:04] <jax> jucato: dapper
[12:04] <Jucato> !info realplayer dapper
[12:04] <ubotu> realplayer: Real Player (installer). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0.11 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:05] <cavallo> I have some problems with VPN. I can connect to pptp vpn and system get theyr DNS's but I cant ping any machine in the vpn. Why ? Any suggestions ?
[12:05] <crube> Jucato Edgy
[12:05] <cavallo> Im using pptpconfig
[12:05] <jax> jucato: bash: !info: event not found
[12:05] <_ali> oglum arnzda mslman war m la?
[12:05] <_ali> ????????????????????????????????
[12:06] <Jucato> jax: no, that wasn't for you. that was for the bot
[12:06] <_ali> la kime diyum ben musluman yok mu?
[12:06] <jax> ic..:0
[12:06] <Jucato> _ali: English please
[12:06] <_ali> why?
[12:07] <_ali> Iam e turks
[12:07] <_ali> :D
[12:07] <abattoir> !tu
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <abattoir> !tr
[12:07] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[12:07] <abattoir> _ali: ^^^^
[12:07] <Jucato> _ali: this is an English channel
[12:07] <_ali> sensizn bepiniz amna koyaym
[12:08] <Adydas> WICKED
[12:08] <elbing> xmms-rplay - RPlay Output Plugin for XMMS; why realplayer?
[12:09] <Pisik_o> my name is ali
[12:09] <Pisik_o> :D
[12:09] <Pisik_o> haw are you la?
[12:09] <Adydas> whos la?
[12:09] <Adydas> oh all?
[12:09] <Pisik_o> yes
[12:09] <lu-bao> ali *gg*
[12:10] <comp08> server undernet.irc.org
[12:10] <_ali> lan aq larm
[12:10] <_ali> ses verseniz lan
[12:10] <_ali> :D:D
[12:11] <Jucato> _ali: please speak in English
[12:11] <lu-bao> lol :>
[12:11] <_ali> mother fucker,
[12:11] <Jucato> !language | _ali
[12:11] <ubotu> _ali: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:11] <_ali> and amreki ka
[12:11] <_ali> and
[12:11] <_ali> engelend
[12:11] <_ali> end faitler
[12:11] <lu-bao> Jucato, please explain me how such peoples are able to join irc? o.o"
[12:12] <lu-bao> xD
[12:12] <Adydas> sadly
[12:12] <Jucato> lu-bao: I wish I knew :)
[12:12] <Adydas> they get in
[12:12] <lu-bao> thought brain is needed to use irc clients and setup connections :)
[12:12] <lu-bao> *gg*
[12:12] <Jucato> heh... ok let's not get personal, shall we? :)
[12:12] <elbing> lu-bao, not with gui... gui makes idiots a morons exponentially
[12:12] <lu-bao> i am from germany but i give my best with english and i am gently :)
[12:13] <Adydas> its presetup for you
[12:13] <lu-bao> elbing, thats mean from you now -.-"   *loves gui but isnt idiot used gentoo before and knows about basics of linux*
[12:13] <elbing> s/a/and
[12:13] <lu-bao> Jucato, youre right :)
[12:13] <elbing> right... what about germany? is it cold?
[12:14] <lu-bao> um o.o" lol what please is that for a question xD
[12:14] <lu-bao> and yeah it is actually o.o but sun is up
[12:15] <elbing> damn... here I'm freezing
[12:15] <vge> only -16 in finland
[12:15] <elbing> 4.5 Spain
[12:16] <Adydas> 17 degrees here
[12:16] <lu-bao> ouch :>
[12:16] <Adydas> so hot
[12:16] <lu-bao> 17 degrees you call hot? Oo
[12:16] <Adydas> for night
[12:16] <elbing> not bad
[12:16] <lu-bao> mh okay its hot *g*
[12:16] <elbing> I should live there :p
[12:16] <lu-bao> i wont xD
[12:16] <vge> i can overclock better in cold weather ;)
[12:16] <lu-bao> *loves kubuntu* x)
[12:17] <lu-bao> all runs well :> so cool first time all runs well at linux and notebook :D
[12:17] <elbing> right, is too difficult to try compile some code under 0
[12:17] <lu-bao> vge, lol did you ever heard about cooling sets? ;)
[12:18] <lu-bao> i mean um without cooling set you have a big problem :) cheap ones are noisy and good ones are strong and quiet *has a cheap one* <.< XD
[12:18] <vge> i made watercooling couple years ago, but not really wanna go with the trouble again, i can manage
[12:19] <lu-bao> wont use watercooling :)
[12:19] <lu-bao> fans are fine as long theyre big and slow so they dont produce high pitchy noises :)
[12:19] <vge> but some here just puts a tube from outside into their case in winter
[12:19] <lu-bao> lol XD
[12:20] <elbing> heh
[12:21] <lu-bao> okay NVU is good for me nice website editor :) thx for advertise that to me :)
[12:22] <lu-bao> why? :)
[12:23] <Jucato> might not fit what you wanted
[12:23] <Jucato> Quanta is very much manual... based on my (still limited) experience
[12:24] <lu-bao> qt? bluefish? huh? XD
[12:24] <elbing> vim + konqueror. be a man ;p
[12:25] <vge> eclipse for all imho
[12:25] <vge> and atleast i can say i do em for a living :)
[12:25] <waylandbill> vim works just fine :)
[12:25] <Jucato> lu-bao: don't mind him :)
[12:25] <elbing> yeah
[12:25] <lu-bao> Jucato, okay :>
[12:29] <Vincent_k> Hi all, I was thinking of installing linux on a laptop without cdrom fdd or bootable usb. Is there a way to get it installed?
[12:30] <lu-bao> package for xine player is xine-ui right?
[12:30] <abattoir> Vincent_k: has internet connection?
[12:30] <abattoir> (hopefully broadband)
[12:30] <elbing> Vincent_k, are you sure you have a machine?
[12:30] <Vincent_k> yes I have internet connection
[12:30] <abattoir> !install | Vincent_k
[12:31] <ubotu> Vincent_k: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:31] <abattoir> Vincent_k: see which fits your needs
[12:31] <Vincent_k> thanks will check it
[12:31] <abattoir> mostly should be netboot...
[12:32] <abattoir> !shipit | Vincent_k
[12:32] <ubotu> Vincent_k: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[12:32] <pointfivezero> lu-bao: yes it is, xine-ui is the xine video player user interface
[12:32] <waylandbill> I've got a laptop without a bootable CD too. I put the hdd in my desktop with an adapter to use it's bootable CD.
[12:32] <abattoir> Vincent_k: doh, no cdrom drive, my mistake...
[12:32] <lu-bao> pointfivezero, thx :)
[12:33] <pointfivezero> !xine-ui | lu-bao
[12:33] <ubotu> lu-bao: xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-0ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 1567 kB, installed size 3512 kB
[12:33] <pointfivezero> !xine-ui
[12:33] <Jucato> kaffeine is a multimedia player that uses xine as the backend
[12:37] <Jucato> !away > HeavenquakeBBL
[12:42] <cfraz89> hi
[12:44] <waylandbill> cfraz89: hi
[12:44] <cfraz89> hi waylandbill
[12:50] <Johny_> !search aptitude
[12:50] <ubotu> Found: aptitude
[12:54] <stuart_> can anyone help with raw (camera) file conversion
[12:54] <Heavenquake> Jucato: huh?
[12:56] <just-this-time> !fonts
[12:56] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:20] <crystufer2000> What's the best program to use to create a fat 32 partition?
[01:21] <yaccin> qtparted
[01:21] <yaccin> !fat32
[01:21] <elbing> mkdosfs
[01:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:22] <yaccin> !format
[01:22] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:22] <yaccin> !qtparted
[01:22] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[01:31] <gtou> hello, can some one help me to make a alphabetical link to an object document who begining with the same letter?
[01:34] <wolfeySI> hello where can i get files for netboot for kubuntu?
[01:40] <wolfeySI> so there's no netboot for kubuntu?
[01:41] <wolfeySI> only for ubuntu?
[01:43] <elbing> wolfeySI, <ubotu> Vincent_k: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:43] <elbing> only changes CD
[01:45] <seri> hello!
[01:46] <seri> i have a thinkpad x60s, but in kcontrol there is no "thinkpad menu". on my desktop pc instead, there is such a menu.
[01:46] <seri> how do i get that on my laptop? thank you
[01:47] <patrick__> Hello !!!
[01:48] <elbing> seri thinkpad-base thinkpad-source
[01:48] <patrick__> From HK
[01:49] <Lynoure> patrick__: Is there something we can help you with?
[01:49] <patrick__> Is there any program I can connect KDE with Xbox 360 ?
[01:50] <googol> windows
[01:50] <Lynoure> Sorry, I have no idea, I do not own an xbox.
[01:51] <Lynoure> patrick__: have you tried searching for xbox linux on google or some other search engine?
[01:51] <Mena> Is there a nice program to enable me edit video files and cutt it and this stuff
[01:51] <patrick__> There is a feature in XP which can connect to X360 via router... But in KDE, I have no idea
[01:51] <seri> elbing: thank you. it's seems i'm missing the whole laptop and batterie menu
[01:51] <elbing> ;)
[01:52] <googol> theres this new os called vista, seems worthwile
[01:52] <patrick__> Lynoure >>> I have searched it, but no linux program to support the feature
[01:52] <Mena> Is there a nice program to enable me edit video files and cutt it and this stuff
[01:53] <Lynoure> patrick__: you mean XBox does not seem to support anything else than MS Windows?
[01:54] <elbing> Mena look for google. maybe cinelerra help you
[01:54] <Mena> elbing, ok
[01:54] <Lynoure> patrick__: you could try the windows program in wine or wmware
[01:54] <googol> I think mena is looking for this crazy company called "apple"
[01:55] <patrick__> >>>Lynoure  yes... the feature are U can watch WMV file, mp3 in X360 via sourcing from XP
[01:55] <mrynit> i just installed kubuntu and i dont think i added a root password. is there a defualt root password or do i need to set it. if so how?
[01:56] <mrynit> sudo passwd root
[01:56] <mrynit> aye thankz
[01:56] <seri> elbing: mh. no such option after installing thinkpad-base, thinkpad-source and klaptopdaemon
[01:56] <seri> elbing: what am i missing?
[01:57] <Dannilion> mrynit: you don't need a root password for most things in Kubuntu- use sudo instead with your account password
[01:57] <elbing> seri, kdeutils3-laptop?
[01:58] <seri> elbing: mh. there is no such packagde in edgy
[01:58] <patrick__> About MythTV, can I watch satellite TV (Real-time, recorded) via internet without Satellite receiver.. DVB-T installed of course !
[01:59] <patrick__> DVB-T card installed, I mean
[01:59] <googol> i can watch satellite TV vai satellite
[01:59] <elbing> seri, klaptopdaemon - battery monitoring and management for laptops using KDE
[01:59] <elbing> kmilo - laptop special keys support for KDE
[02:00] <elbing> try apt-cache search "whatever you're looking for"
[02:00] <elbing> (without quotes)
[02:00] <seri> elbing: i've installed kmilo and klaptopdaemon
[02:01] <seri> elbing: but there is no thinkpad menu in kcontrol
[02:02] <googol> patrick__:it would be nice though if i knew what tuner card to buy to set up a mythtv box :)
[02:02] <patrick__> googol>> I have not installed sat. receiver, restricted by government rule in China
[02:02] <googol> patrick__:oh thats no fun
[02:03] <elbing> seri, read this http://floatingsun.net/articles/howtos/howto-t42-ubuntu.html
[02:03] <googol> patrick__:I would like a TV "in" card working with linux that would be good like a TiVo box
[02:04] <Mena> what is the deffrenr between ubuntu amd64  and just ubuntu
[02:04] <patrick__> googol >>> surf www.lunapark6.com ....it introduced a DVB-T card and how to install it... But In China....you cannot install without any permission.
[02:04] <Mena> deffrent*
[02:05] <wolfeySI> patrick__: china is evil communist country
[02:05] <wolfeySI> :)O
[02:05] <wolfeySI> communist country that opresses workers
[02:05] <wolfeySI> :)
[02:06] <Lynoure> wolfeySI: Maybe do not start the great politics debate here.
[02:06] <wolfeySI> okey
[02:06] <Lynoure> wolfeySI: see ##politics for that
[02:06] <wolfeySI> btw tvtime rocks:)
[02:06] <patrick__> Do not mention it in chat !!! I am a Hong Kong citizen and working / living in China
[02:06] <Jucato> !offtopic
[02:06] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:06] <wolfeySI> patrick__: sorry for you
[02:06] <Lynoure> Jucato: politics is even o4o, I think
[02:07] <seri> elbing: :| I already checked this. on my desktop pc there is the menu and just the message  that /dev/nvram couldn't be accessed. but on my thinkpad i don't have that menu. maybe a bug in edgy? i check launchpad. thanks for your help.
[02:08] <patrick__> wolfeySI>>> it does'nt matter..... We are free in WWW
[02:10] <smecheru> nick
[02:13] <Mena> why when i add this two lines t the repo i got an error
[02:13] <Mena>     deb http://giss.tv/~vale/ubuntu32 ./
[02:13] <Mena>     deb-src http://giss.tv/~vale/ubuntu32 ./
[02:13] <Mena> to*
[02:14] <Lynoure> Mena: What error?
[02:14] <Mena> Lynoure, the adept wouldnot load ad in the terminla its telling me this Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[02:14] <Lynoure> Mena: last bit of each line looks wrong, at least to me.
[02:14] <Mena> and*
[02:15] <Mena> Lynoure, i took then from the site
[02:15] <Mena> them*
[02:15] <Lynoure> Mena: Then, ask them?
[02:16] <Lynoure> Mena: but usually lines are more line   deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[02:16] <Lynoure> s/more line/more like
[02:18] <Lynoure> Mena: you can also get the packages with wget from those places and install them with dpkg   assuming that you trust the packages in the first place.
[02:21] <Mena_> Lynoure, what was you saying bec i got a conection problem
[02:21] <_eMaX_> hi
[02:22] <Lynoure> Mena_: What was the last one you got?
[02:22] <_eMaX_> ne1 here knows how to revoke a pgp key that I created years ago?
[02:22] <Mena_>  s/more line/more like....
[02:23] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: you still have the key+passphrase or the revocation certificate?
[02:23] <_eMaX_> well I may remember the passphrase.
[02:23] <_eMaX_> the public key I can import
[02:24] <Mena_> Lynoure, is there any thing else
[02:24] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: the private key + passphrase I meant.
[02:24] <_eMaX_> no
[02:24] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: If you do not have those or the revocation certificate, you cannot
[02:25] <Lynoure> Mena: you can also get the packages with wget from those places and install them with dpkg   assuming that you trust the packages in the first place.
[02:26] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: That's the very reason why good key generation howtos tell you to make a backup of your key and make a revocation cert right after creating the key and storing it in a safe place.
[02:26] <Mena_> Lynoure, i realy didint trust but i cant find any program to edit video except that is there a program supporrted with ubuntu
[02:26] <Jucato> !kino
[02:26] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.90-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1093 kB, installed size 3860 kB
[02:27] <Mena_> Jucato, thanks
[02:27] <Mena_> Lynoure, thanks
[02:27] <Lynoure> Mena_: If you install a package you do not trust, effectively you are running their unknown, potentially evil code, as root on your machine.
[02:28] <Mena_> Lynoure, ohh ok good i didnt use it
[02:28] <Jucato> in this case, the source of the package/source code and the software's popularity has impact...
[02:29] <just-this-time> non-unicode is an issue in kubuntu
[02:29] <Lynoure> Jucato: yes, it does, but I was completely unfamiliar with g.i.s.s. or anyone called vale.
[02:29] <just-this-time> how do I make kopete show hebrew ?
[02:30] <just-this-time> I know ICQ is sending non-UNICODE
[02:32] <matthias_> hi
[02:32] <matthias_> would it be a good idea to install the beta of kde4?
[02:32] <matthias_> i was never impressed by kde, i always supported gnome
[02:33] <matthias_> but now what i see of kde 4
[02:33] <matthias_> is in one word amazing
[02:33] <matthias_> so would it be a good idea???
[02:33] <Jucato> no
[02:34] <matthias_> okay
[02:34] <Jucato> KDE 4 is currently not even in alpha yet. there is nothing to actually "see" and "use" unless you are a developer or attempting to help in the development
[02:34] <matthias_> ah
[02:34] <matthias_> okay
[02:34] <matthias_> thx
[02:34] <Jucato> for now, all we can hold on are news articles and some screenshots
[02:34] <Jucato> (artwork  hasn't even been put in yet)
[02:35] <matthias_> i have vista tough I've participated in the beta of vista
[02:35] <Jucato> most of the changes that have happened are under the hood
[02:35] <guglielf> !tell me about grub
[02:35] <matthias_> and im telling u that kde would lure a lot of windows users
[02:35] <matthias_> to linux
[02:35] <Jucato> !grub > guglielf
[02:36] <Jucato> matthias_: There is still no official target date/month (or year?) for KDE 4.0 release. The most honest and most accurate answer we can give is "when it's ready." Some (unofficial) estimates are 2nd half of 2007 (Q3-Q4) or even early 2008. Please see http://dot.kde.org for KDE 4-related news and articles
[02:36] <matthias_> I only think that kde4 has to have some impressive theme's
[02:36] <guglielf> thanks Jucato, the bot already told me ;)
[02:37] <Jucato> matthias_: stay tuned to that news site. one of the upcoming articles will be about the icon theme/color scheme/artwork
[02:37] <matthias_> ah thx
[02:37] <matthias_> wel got to go
[02:37] <matthias_> thx for the info
[02:37] <matthias_> i really apreciate that
[02:37] <matthias_> bye
[02:37] <Jucato> bye
[02:37] <Jucato> guglielf: just making sure :)
[02:38] <guglielf> Jucato: lol
[02:40] <incorrect> is there an open source tool for editing flash?
[02:41] <Jucato> none that I know of
[02:41] <incorrect> all from adobe right?
[02:43] <Jucato> yep
[02:43] <incorrect> ah man i have to buy it :S
[02:44] <_mv_> hi all, can i ask some help? i have some strange problems with locales :(
[02:45] <Lynoure> _mv_: Yes, this is the channel for just that kind of questions.
[02:47] <_mv_> Lynoure: thanks a lot :D i'm italian, and i have kde in italian but ... when i use some applications (such as kate, konqueror, and so on) i'm not able to write italian special characters
[02:47] <Jucato> _mv_: #kubuntu-it people don't know how?
[02:48] <Jucato> !it
[02:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:48] <Jucato> oh, lucky guess, there's a #kubuntu-it :D
[02:48] <_mv_> but when i run the same applications from konsole, it works well
[02:48] <_mv_> i know, i'm coming from #ubuntu-it :(
[02:48] <Jucato> well, there's a #kubuntu-it too
[02:49] <_mv_> eh, it is forwading to #ubuntu-it
[02:50] <Jucato> bah
[02:50] <Jucato> silly :)
[02:50] <Lynoure> _mv_: hmm, if they never had the accents right, I'd tell you to try a different font, but that is unlikely now.
[02:51] <_mv_> Lynoure: ok, now i try to change font ... but it is so strange, i've got default fonts :\
[02:51] <Lynoure> _mv_: and from konsole you mean starting it with plain name of the program, not kdesu programname or anything?
[02:51] <_mv_> Lynoure: example: starting kate from konsole work right
[02:52] <_mv_> mat@leprechaun:~$ kate
[02:55] <Lynoure> _mv_: I do not think I have a solution for you right away... But konsole sessions starts by reading the bash configurations , mayby there is something there
[02:56] <_mv_> Lynoure: thanks anyway :)) i'm trying to search on my home ^^
[02:57] <_mv_> uhm, with alt+f2 and kdesu kate accents work fine o_O'
[02:57] <emanuele> ciao a tutti
[02:57] <emanuele> senite sapete cm abilitare l'utente root su kubuntu?
[02:57] <Lynoure> _mv_: have you modified .bashrc? by default (at least on my system) it has nothing I could pin down as the possible cause.
[02:58] <_mv_> ciao emanuele, questo e' il canale inglese :P
[02:58] <_mv_> ti conviene andare su #ubuntu-it ^^
[02:58] <emanuele> thanks you :)
[02:59] <_mv_> Lynoure: .bashrc should be empty?
[02:59] <Lynoure> _mv_: it could also help you to compare some setting with other users. E.g. System Settings -> Regional -> Country/Region -> Locale
[03:00] <Lynoure> _mv_: I think not. But I'm on dapper and if you are on edgy things might be different (I'd still be surprised)
[03:00] <_mv_> Lynoure: i'm on feisty :P
[03:01] <Lynoure> _mv_: oh, then try on #ubuntu+1
[03:01] <Lynoure> _mv_: feisty is not out yet, so its support is there.
[03:01] <_mv_> wow, i didn't know about ubuntu+1 :|
[03:02] <Lynoure> _mv_: I would have told you right away if I had guessed. It could even be some obscure bug in need of fixing.
[03:03] <atomico80> I don't know how to instsll s wifi antenna on the usb port
[03:03] <atomico80> anybody can help me?
[03:04] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[03:05] <_mv_> Lynoure: eh, i don't think so ... i've got the same problem with stable :( probably some old configuration files on my home
[03:06] <slyfox> I am getting pissed off lately with Kubuntu - hibernation and supends do not work. Knetwork manager does not work on startup because Kwallet refuses to gives password or knetwork manager does not take it. Is this common  with all distors? WIll this crap be in feisty too ?
[03:06] <Lynoure> _mv_: what do you have in those locale settings in kde? and what in /etc/environment?
[03:07] <_mv_> !paste
[03:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:08] <atomico80> anybody has any experience in installing devices on usb?
[03:08] <_mv_> Lynoure: mine /etc/environment: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7033/
[03:10] <Lynoure> _mv_: and those kde locale settings?
[03:11] <_mv_> Lynoure: ehm, i'm new to kde ... which is the file i need to paste in mine .kde/?
[03:12] <Lynoure> _mv_: I only know where they are on the GUI on dapper (see above), not which file
[03:13] <_mv_> Lynoure: oh, you mean in kcontorl ... well, language only italian, but in kcontrol accented letters are normal
[03:13] <kzwo> Hello @ll
[03:14] <Lynoure> _mv_: Then I'm out of ideas for now, sorry.
[03:15] <_mv_> Lynoure: thanks :)
[03:16] <googol> how do i cheak if I have direct rendering?
[03:16] <googol> !dri
[03:16] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[03:17] <Jucato> googol: glxinfo | grep -i render
[03:17] <googol> woo hoo i do
[03:17] <googol> i never hotught id sey this but i love intel graphics
[03:17] <googol> lol
[03:18] <Jucato> I want to love them too :)
[03:18] <googol> oh they make my babies let me tell you
[03:18] <kzwo> could one help me? I can't open an display as root, as user it works.
[03:19] <BluesKaj> don't get too excited , even my lowly onboard ATI graphics does DRI quite well , if one uses the proper binary drivers :)
[03:20] <googol> i just found out you can use a sDVO pci-e so i can get digital out
[03:21] <Jucato> kzwo: you really can't you're not supposed to. any reason why you want to?
[03:21] <googol> i feel safer using open intel drivers
[03:24] <kzwo> jucato, that's an interesting answer. thanks. I mounted directories from another linux distribution, at the moments I have only rights to read as root.
[03:25] <Jucato> kzwo: kdesu konqueror
[03:27] <kzwo> jucato: wow, thanks for the imediate help!
[03:27] <Jucato> !sudo | kzwo
[03:27] <ubotu> kzwo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:28] <LegoLinux> hi
[03:28] <calxaed> hi does anyone know if amarok supports mtp devices like the creative zen v+ in kubuntu edgy
[03:28] <Riddell> calxaed: it should do yes, but I don't think it has been tested
[03:28] <LegoLinux> I can't activate the "compose key"
[03:28] <Jucato> calxaed: it should, but I think there has been problems
[03:29] <Jucato> LegoLinux: I think it's the right Alt key by default?
[03:29] <calxaed> it think there are, amorok wont detect it
[03:29] <LegoLinux> Jucato: do you mean the AltGr?
[03:29] <Jucato> I there were problems with some versions of Amarok not being compiled w/ MTP support? not sure if the latest (1.4.5) has been compiled with it already
[03:30] <Jucato> LegoLinux: if that's what it's called :)
[03:30] <kzwo> jucato: can't understand the command.
[03:30] <Jucato> kzwo: what command can't you understand?
[03:30] <kzwo> ubotu, thank you.
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <Jucato> !ubotu | kzwo
[03:30] <ubotu> kzwo: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:30] <calxaed> is there a way of discovering if a particular version of amarok is built with mtp support
[03:31] <kzwo> jucato: ahaa!
[03:31] <Jucato> kzwo: and !factoid calls the bot
[03:31] <kzwo> jucato, helpful!
[03:36] <lu-bao> after updating my server can i remove files out of var cache apt archieves ?
[03:37] <chavo> lu-bao, just run apt-get autoclean it will remove the old debs
[03:37] <lu-bao> chavo, ah thank you very much didnt knew that command :)
[03:38] <_eMaX_> lynoure still there?
[03:38] <lu-bao> chavo, cause its a debian sarge i686 and i typed apt-get upgrade :)
[03:41] <lu-bao> chavo, inside folder archives are still these .deb packages but can i remove them now? or does debian use it out of archieves folder ?
[03:42] <lu-bao> or does it install them and i can remove all what is inside archives ?
[03:42] <chavo> lu-bao, you can remove them
[03:44] <lu-bao> archives is empty :)
[03:46] <jhutchins> You could do apt-get autoclean, that would be the "correct" way to clean it up.
[03:46] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[03:47] <Shadowtester> Anyone know if Amarok will play ALAC files?
[03:49] <chavo> Shadowtester, do you mean flac?
[03:49] <Shadowtester> no Apple Lossless Audio Codex
[03:49] <chavo> no idea
[03:49] <Shadowtester> different than FLAC I use ALAC on my IPod
[03:50] <Dekans> i successed to compile bleu ice kwin decoration but this deco is not available in window decorations menu ...
[03:51] <Dekans> does someone have an idea about this ?
[03:53] <chavo> Shadowtester, there's no support for it in amarok butthere's a decoder here http://craz.net/programs/itunes/alac.html
[03:54] <BluesKaj> Shadowtester, the best thing to try is to configure your Ipod in amarok devices
[03:54] <Shadowtester> ok thanks I will try
[03:57] <chavo> Dekans, where did you get the windeco frm?
[03:58] <Dekans> chavo: kde-look.org
[04:01] <ramtikitiki> what program is the best to do a virtual login from windows to linux?
[04:02] <ramtikitiki> !ping
[04:02] <ubotu> pong
[04:03] <chavo> Dekans, did you run ./configure --prefix /usr first?
[04:05] <Dekans> not with the prefix
[04:05] <renato> hi, I have a server which is linked to a dynamic dns, with the name of dallrmi.dyndns.org. I also have a domain registered: eudealers.com. I managed to create a CNAME that associate eudealers.com to rdallarmi.dyndns.org so rewuests for www.eudealers.com get forwarded correctly to my server. I had no luck with the mail so far, I have created an MX record at the site where I registered the domain like: eudealers.com  1
[04:05] <renato> rdallarmi.dyndns.org. Then I went do dyndns.org defining another mx record rdallarmi.dyndns.org 1 rdallarmi.dyndns.org. but the whole thing does not work. Can anybody help me? what do I need to do different?
[04:06] <ramtikitiki> what program is the best to do a virtual login from windows to linux?
[04:07] <lu-bao> ramtikitiki, you mean via ssh?
[04:08] <lu-bao> use putty :) putty is opensource to manage servers through ssh and putty is available for windows and linux :)
[04:11] <ramtikitiki> lu-bao: it does not matter we want to use it localy
[04:12] <ramtikitiki> lu-bao: does putty allow you to make virtual connetion(with gui?)
[04:13] <_eMaX_> anyone knows how exactly to revoke a pgp key if I have the private key and the passphrase?
[04:15] <chavo> ramtikitiki, did you look at VNC
[04:16] <Dekans> chavo: thanks it works with the /usr/ prefix
[04:16] <Dekans> and checkinstall made the installation fail
[04:16] <chavo> yeah I didn't think KDE was set to llok in /usr/local
[04:16] <chavo> look*
[04:16] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: I was not, but now I'm back for a bit
[04:17] <boinc> anyone out there tried to use 64bit with a stupid geniune intel boards onboard vid?
[04:18] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: You found your private key? Great
[04:19] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: e.g. http://www.hackdiary.com/archives/000042.html has step by step instructions for that
[04:20] <chavo> ramtikitiki, you can also look at no machine http://www.nomachine.com/
[04:20] <ramtikitiki> chavo: what type of VNC?
[04:22] <chavo> ramtikitiki, there's a couple of vnc servers in the repos I haven't tried them myself
[04:22] <tuco> Hello ppl. I need some help with kaffeine, it plays video but not the audio that goes with it. Any codec I need to download?
[04:24] <ramtikitiki> chavo:  is vnc tight compateble with other vnc's
[04:24] <_eMaX_> Lynoure at least I found 2 private keys. Thanks for the link
[04:25] <chavo> ramtikitiki, I would assume so, but I havent tried it.
[04:25] <ramtikitiki> chavo: ok thnx
[04:25] <yettenet> Is there a way to delete the keyboard shortcut of an application that has been removed (but the shortcut is still assigned to it)
[04:27] <tuco> nobody can help me with kaffeine?
[04:28] <jpiccolo> is there a way to go though an reset my networking
[04:29] <jpiccolo> DNS is not working now, only if i use a live cd
[04:33] <Jucato> yettenet:  System Settings -> Keyboad and Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Command Shortcuts tab
[04:33] <yettenet> I know where to find it... it doesn't appear there though, since the app has been uninstalled
[04:34] <yettenet> But it's still assigned to the app
[04:34] <yettenet> Therefore I can't use that shortcut to start any other things
[04:34] <yettenet> If you could tell me where these shortcuts are stored, I could do it for myself
[04:35] <Jucato> yettenet: try running this command: kbuildsycoca
[04:35] <yettenet> What does it do?
[04:35] <Jucato> it will refresh your database and your menus
[04:35] <yettenet> No database available...
[04:36] <Jucato> ignore that error message
[04:36] <lu-bao> how can i find out whats the ip of my server (rented) through putty ssh shell?
[04:36] <lu-bao> internet ip ^^
[04:36] <yettenet> And what now?
[04:36] <tuco> Hey Jucato. Need some help with kaffeine. it doesn't play the audio.
[04:36] <yettenet> It hasn't solved the problem yet
[04:37] <Jucato> tuco: what format?
[04:37] <Jucato> yettenet: still can't use that keyboard shortcut?
[04:37] <yettenet> Nope
[04:37] <Jucato> yettenet: does it popup a dialog box that says it's used somewhere else?
[04:37] <yettenet> But I found that the shortcuts can be found at ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals
[04:37] <yettenet> I'll give it a try
[04:38] <yettenet> It doesn't pop up anything
[04:38] <yettenet> It just doesn't react
[04:38] <Jucato> what does it say?
[04:38] <Jucato> hm...
[04:38] <Jucato> yettenet: maybe it has been set for something else other than that app you uninstalled
[04:38] <yettenet> Nope
[04:38] <Jucato> yettenet: try looking into the Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:38] <Jucato> what's the key combo?
[04:39] <tuco> wmv so far
[04:40] <Jucato> tuco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[04:41] <Alexandre> Hello friends
[04:43] <Alexandre> I want download Kubuntu Edgy in Torrent. Some one knew the rigth place?!?!?!?
[04:43] <Jucato> !download
[04:43] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[04:43] <yettenet> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[04:43] <yettenet> I found 2 entries in khotkeysrc
[04:44] <Alexandre> ubotu: torrent only in DVD, i want cd
[04:44] <Jucato> !ubotu | Alexandre
[04:44] <ubotu> Alexandre: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:44] <googol> HUAR!
[04:45] <Jucato> Alexandre: did you look into the links for the CD's?
[04:45] <yettenet> And found it! Yay, I'm great! :D
[04:45] <Alexandre> Jucato: Yes, i1m on site: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[04:46] <Jucato> Alexandre: choose a location, then choose "Other installation options"
[04:46] <Jucato> Alexandre: should take you to a page where you can find the .torrent for the CD's
[04:46] <Alexandre> Jucato: ok, i try now, and downloading, thanks
[04:47] <clownius> im having some issues with Kubuntu 64 and my intel onboard video
[04:48] <googol> like what?
[04:48] <clownius> i can get decent resolution or colour
[04:48] <clownius> 640X480 and horrid colours
[04:49] <clownius> worked fine on 32bit
[04:49] <CaptainApathy> is the driver 64 bit?
[04:49] <googol> oh... what kind of monitor do you have?
[04:49] <clownius> Dell 17in CRT
[04:49] <yettenet> Jucato: I found the 2 entries in ~/.kde/share/config/kdehotkeysrc
[04:49] <clownius> cheap throwaway
[04:49] <yettenet> DEleted them both, reset
[04:50] <yettenet> It works now
[04:50] <Jucato> yettenet: yeah I read that :)
[04:50] <yettenet> :)
[04:50] <Jucato> yettenet: what was it set to?
[04:50] <yettenet> To the shortcut which didn't work
[04:50] <yettenet> :P
[04:50] <yettenet> It does now :)
[04:50] <Jucato> hehe
[04:50] <yettenet> And the problem was exactly the same I said
[04:50] <Jucato> so it was set 2 times
[04:50] <yettenet> Yup
[04:50] <googol> im running kubuntu 64 with intel onbord and I have beryl runnning..
[04:50] <yettenet> And the other app has been deleted
[04:50] <yettenet> But not the shortcut :)
[04:51] <clownius> could you run the live install?
[04:51] <yettenet> If anyone has a problem like it, tell them what to do :D
[04:51] <googol> i have the intel 945g mobo
[04:51] <clownius> mines a 965
[04:51] <CaptainApathy> googol: are you using a 64 bit driver?
[04:51] <googol> theres a 64 bit driver ?? looks confused*
[04:51] <yettenet> Well, bye :P
[04:52] <CaptainApathy> googol: That's my assumption... I would personally doubt how well a 32 bit graphics driver would work with a 64 bit kernel..
[04:52] <clownius> *kicks himself for getting onboard video
[04:52] <googol> i hv beryl runnning no prob so..
[04:52] <CaptainApathy> clownius: I have onboard video :P
[04:53] <CaptainApathy> googol: dunno then
[04:53] <googol> i removed my ati graphiccs card so i could run onboard
[04:53] <googol> open source all the way now
[04:53] <clownius> had nothing but problems with my 965 chipset with onboard video lol
[04:54] <jpiccolo> i am having a weird networking issue
[04:54] <clownius> i might buy myself a cheap nvidea at this rate
[04:54] <CaptainApathy> mmm real 3d acceleration on a laptop
[04:54] <jpiccolo> i can get on the internet fine but i can go to my routers web interface
[04:54] <jpiccolo> i can ping the router also
[04:54] <CaptainApathy> jpiccolo: do you have permission to access it?
[04:55] <jpiccolo> yeah
[04:55] <jpiccolo> its my router
[04:55] <googol> clownius: have you installed the 915i package?
[04:55] <clownius> 915i package no but i may try it if it helps
[04:55] <CaptainApathy> I know my router has two different access methods.  wired+wireless w/ first password, or if you use the 2nd password, you only have internet access... not access to the other computers/the router
[04:55] <jpiccolo> my router doesnt have that
[04:56] <jpiccolo> i am wired
[04:56] <CaptainApathy> (yeay for $30 routers)
[04:56] <CaptainApathy> huh
[04:56] <clownius> what sort of router?
[04:56] <jpiccolo> yeah
[04:56] <jpiccolo> cheapo belkin
[04:56] <CaptainApathy> clownius: the cheapest one they had at walmart...
[04:56] <CaptainApathy> er... right, his...
[04:56] <CaptainApathy> >_>
[04:56] <jpiccolo> no second
[04:56] <clownius> lol
[04:56] <CaptainApathy> jpiccolo: which port are you pluged in at?  the first wired?
[04:57] <jpiccolo> myeah
[04:57] <clownius> i had some issues with setting up a friends first Linux machine his router disliked it
[04:57] <jpiccolo> its been fine for a year
[04:57] <clownius> But not a belkin :(
[04:57] <CaptainApathy> hm...
[04:57] <CaptainApathy> odd
[04:57] <jpiccolo> started happening after i set up vmware server
[04:57] <tuco> I have the w32 codecs already Jucato, still no sound :-(
[04:58] <googol> clownius: seach from 915resolution in adept
[04:58] <clownius> thanks will do
[04:58] <Jucato> tuco: you installed it already?
[04:58] <clownius> ok found it ill try and install and reboot
[04:59] <tuco> it was done before
[04:59] <clownius> tuco is this a no sound issue?
[04:59] <tuco> yes
[04:59] <clownius> i found for some reason edgy had pcspeaker off on a machine and i couldnt get sound out of certain things
[04:59] <Jucato> tuco: but you have video?
[05:00] <clownius> for some reason kaffine was sending sound through pc speaker yet other sounds were working
[05:02] <tuco> yes I do amigo
[05:03] <renato> hi, I have a server which is linked to a dynamic dns, with the name of dallrmi.dyndns.org. I also have a domain registered: eudealers.com. I managed to create a CNAME that associate eudealers.com to rdallarmi.dyndns.org so rewuests for www.eudealers.com get forwarded correctly to my server. I had no luck with the mail so far, I have created an MX record at the site where I registered the domain like: eudealers.com  1
[05:03] <renato> rdallarmi.dyndns.org. Then I went do dyndns.org defining another mx record rdallarmi.dyndns.org 1 rdallarmi.dyndns.org. but the whole thing does not work. Can anybody help me? what do I need to do different?
[05:04] <Jucato> tuco: might be the file... not really sure... since you have video already...
[05:05] <tuco> strange really...or do I have to use a different player?
[05:05] <eeos_> hi there.
[05:06] <tuco> all files I played do the same...i tried the same files in windows (yuk yuk yuk) and they work.
[05:06] <clownius> very odd
[05:06] <Jucato> not really sure what else to do... try installing mplayer... :(
[05:08] <renato> mine must be a scary question
[05:08] <clownius> googol thanks for the help i can move back onto the 64bit computer now its not horrible looking anymore
[05:08] <tuco> you giving up Jucato! Ah dude ;-)
[05:09] <eeos_> I need to monitor my broadband connection for a period of time and send the data to our provider. Is there a tool in kubuntu to monitor the the netwrok connection on a long time?
[05:09] <eeos_> and produce average values, and variance?
[05:10] <Gazza> hello, i have bought a microphone which is very quiet, and i have set all the sliders i know of to maximum. Is there any way of boosting the mic?
[05:10] <Jucato> tuco: 12:10 AM... a man has limits...
[05:11] <tuco> you are not a man, you are a bot with improved capabilities! :-)
[05:12] <googol> lol i actually helped sombody thats a first
[05:12] <clownius> hehe happens to us all
[05:12] <clownius> just need a problem you had before
[05:13] <clownius> Weird that i didnt have the same problem on 32 bit though
[05:16] <_eMaX_> Lynoure still there?
[05:17] <_eMaX_> ne1 how can I obtain a validated signature for my pgp key so that in email applications recipients do not receive the message "this message has a digital signature, but it was not validated"
[05:24] <method|> what can i use to view microsoft visio files in linux?
[05:25] <Heavenquake> hmm.. How do I make my computer connect to wifi automatically on startup?
[05:25] <Jucato> method|: Kivio or Dia
[05:25] <Jucato> !kivio
[05:25] <ubotu> kivio: a flowcharting program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 543 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[05:25] <Jucato> !dia
[05:25] <ubotu> dia: Diagram editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95.0-4ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 528 kB
[05:27] <tuco> ok some work some don't...funny
[05:27] <troxor> _eMaX_: don't the recipients have to sign your key with theirs to completely validate it to them?
[05:27] <Gazza> how do i boost the input of my mic ?
[05:29] <abattoir> Gazza: tried fiddling around in kmix?
[05:29] <_eMaX_> well I just thought of that stupid outlook web mail that we have in our company
[05:30] <Gazza> abattoir: yes
[05:30] <Gazza> abattoir: i've set the +20db on as well
[05:31] <abattoir> Gazza: aah, then i don't know of any other way, sorry
[05:32] <space_ninja> is kubuntu better than unbuntu?
[05:32] <googol> yes
[05:33] <Jucato> !better
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about better - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <googol> !ftw
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <Johny_> How Can i Check names of all the system accounts by a command from shell?
[05:35] <abattoir> Johny_: users ?
[05:35] <abattoir> oh, wait, that only shows currently logged in users
[05:35] <Johny_> abattoir: yeah, just wanted to write that -:)
[05:36] <abattoir> oh good :)
[05:36] <space_ninja> is kubuntu the best dist with kde?
[05:36] <Johny_> space_ninja: www.ditrowatch.com
[05:36] <Jucato> space_ninja: "best" is very subjective. "best" is what works for the person
[05:37] <Johny_> space_ninja: sorry ---> www.distrowatch.com
[05:39] <hyper_ch> abattoir: do you know how I can setup a folder in samba that can be accessed only by some users?
[05:39] <space_ninja> I hade a dist with apt-get system, but I could't get the qt librarys properly. What should I type to get the qt4 librarys correctly?
[05:41] <abattoir> !samba | hyper_ch
[05:41] <ubotu> hyper_ch: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:41] <Jucato> space_ninja: what are you trying to do?
[05:41] <[R] eaper> help!!! my ati card doesn't work right :( http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4847/atix1600qt6.jpg
[05:41] <abattoir> hyper_ch: been through that?
[05:41] <hyper_ch> abattoir: well, I have samba up an running... and my roommates can access all my shared folders... but I want to create individual folders for them to access.. where they have write access :)
[05:42] <space_ninja> well I was trying to qmake -project but it got all f-up, and I got sick and tired of packages and shit beacouse I don't know what to look for
[05:42] <space_ninja> and do
[05:43] <space_ninja> there are like thousands of qt packages but I don't which one to pick
[05:43] <slow-motion> halo
[05:43] <dum3> hi
[05:43] <slow-motion> +l
[05:43] <space_ninja> and when I install one, I have no control over where they are and what has been done
[05:44] <space_ninja> I'm going CRAZY :)
[05:45] <space_ninja> that's what I like windows, the keep everything the program needs in one directory
[05:45] <space_ninja> y
[05:46] <dum3_> hi
[05:46] <dum3_> annybody here?
[05:46] <Jucato> space_ninja: afaik, you don't need to actually install Qt 4 to be able to use it. there was a guide on how to do that. can't remember where
[05:48] <space_ninja> ah, well I'm installing kubuntu now, we'll see
[05:51] <u0441509> HOla
[05:59] <bonbonthejon> where can i post a bug report for feisty
[05:59] <Jucato> !bugs
[05:59] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:59] <Jucato> !feisty | bonbonthejon
[05:59] <ubotu> bonbonthejon: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:00] <Jucato> bonbonthejon: better ask the gusy in #ubuntu+1 too
[06:05] <ScarFreewill> is there is universal/very much used virtual login server app for linux that allows clients to run with gui?
[06:05] <ScarFreewill> eg. vnc
[06:06] <ScarFreewill> but what is used the most? of stuff like that...
[06:07] <Heavenquake> why does kubuntu ignore my .xsession?
[06:07] <SolidSource> Looking for a MediaMonkey or Advance MP3 Catalog linux alternative, anyone have any suggestions?
[06:08] <gdiebel> SolidSource: I find amarok to handle all my music needs. amarok.kde.org or check out #amarok
[06:08] <_eMaX_> ne1 here uses pgp w/ evolution?
[06:09] <SolidSource> gdiebel: Amarok doesn't do what i need and the ID3 tagger doesn't work all that well in downloading from online databases
[06:09] <gdiebel> online db such as?
[06:09] <gdiebel> amarok includes musicbrainz
[06:10] <_eMaX_> hmm. "When people ask the question "Will Evolution change Microsoft?" I feel obligated to say that evolution has theorically changed pond scum into human beings, but the downside is that it took millions of years."
[06:13] <SolidSource> gdiebel: yes I know of musicbrainz (though its not a very complete database) Amarok has issues connecting to them
[06:14] <SolidSource> gdiebel: not to mention in amarok it only allows you to download info for individual songs rather than albums at time
[06:14] <renato> hi, is there a way in conqueror toset up a default view (details) when I am looking at the filesystem?
[06:16] <yettenet> The only method I know is to overwrite the existing filebrowser view
[06:16] <yettenet> I have asked this question some days ago as well
[06:16] <SolidSource> renato: yes, you basically set it up in the one window and then go to settings >> "save 'view profile'
[06:18] <gdiebel> SolidSource: easytag for more advanced tagging needs
[06:22] <SolidSource> gdiebel: hmm that just might work and FreeDB is one of my favorite databases
[06:22] <gdiebel> SolidSource: alas it uses gtk :)
[06:22] <pfein> how can I install edgy next (ie, different partition) to dapper w/o booting from CD?
[06:26] <Venona> whats the dev channel for kubuntu ?
[06:27] <roberto> ita?
[06:27] <stamen> hi
[06:27] <stamen> who can help to set up NAT network
[06:27] <stamen> and to make it work
[06:28] <[GuS] > Google for sure stamen  :)
[06:28] <xyverz> stamen - take a look at Firestarter
[06:28] <xyverz> it'll help you with your firewalling.
[06:29] <stamen> [GuS] : yesss, its easy to say
[06:29] <pfein> Google: It's smarter than you are.  And probably better looking.
[06:29] <stamen> on non graphical firestarter can't help me
[06:29] <[GuS] > :)
[06:29] <[GuS] > stamen, read about IPTABLES
[06:29] <stamen> [GuS] : but I wan't help from you
[06:29] <pfein> Google: It will steal your girlfriend in the night.
[06:30] <[GuS] > i not going to help you stamen anyway.. because you bave TO MUCH info on the web for that
[06:30] <[GuS] > :)
[06:30] <stamen> [GuS] : all
[06:30] <ApathyMan> What's a good Calendar programming?
[06:30] <ApathyMan> er.... program
[06:30] <stamen> yes only google can help, the other are too lazy to help
[06:30] <Dr_willis> to do what?
[06:31] <ApathyMan> to keep track of apointments and alert me and what not
[06:31] <[GuS] > stamen, you are... nobody will do it for you.. you must search and learn :)
[06:31] <Dr_willis> look for pim programs i guess
[06:31] <[GuS] > after you read, you will learn a lot
[06:31] <stamen> [GuS] : this not the only way
[06:31] <stamen> otherwise for what is this channel
[06:31] <Dr_willis> 'use the force luke'
[06:31] <[GuS] > if you really want to learn, it is stamen .. because  you are going to use your brain
[06:31] <[GuS] > and not us for you
[06:32] <[GuS] > stamen, for doubs
[06:32] <[GuS] > and problemas about the OS
[06:32] <[GuS] > problems*
[06:32] <[GuS] > lol Dr_willis
[06:32] <stamen> thank you for the help, you help me a lot
[06:33] <[GuS] > Dr_willis, he want to know how to configure a NAT nework
[06:33] <Dr_willis> ip-masquerading-howto - has full details on that.
[06:33] <Dr_willis> I belive.
[06:33] <stamen> [GuS] : get linux to have a headache, and do something search google, to make it on the fast way
[06:35] <[GuS] > stamen, i am admin. :)
[06:35] <[GuS] > and professor of the Univ.. so what are you saying?
[06:35] <[GuS] > :P
[06:35] <[GuS] > th best way to learn... is to searh yourselft for info
[06:35] <[GuS] > and read.. and practice....
[06:35] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html    gives details on setting up NAT with webmin.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> webmin is so handy.. and so hated.. sadly.
[06:36] <stamen> [GuS] : but this is very swall method
[06:36] <[GuS] > here we will help you after you did...
[06:36] <stamen> but I did it on half
[06:36] <stamen> but can't finish it
[06:36] <[GuS] > bah..
[06:36] <Dr_willis> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-configure-network-address-translation-or-nat/           - gives a 4 line script to set up NAT also.
[06:37] <stamen> Dr_willis: 10x
[06:37] <Dr_willis> that was the #2 hit on google.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> of course i advise reading the ip-masquerading howto - to understand WHAT those commands are doing.
[06:38] <Dr_willis> just expecting 'magic commands' to work.. without knowing whats going on = the windows way
[06:38] <[GuS] > Dr_willis, some people wants stuff so easy...
[06:38] <fdoving> .. so what makes ksoftirqd/0 use ~90% cpu.. anyone seen that before?
[06:38] <[GuS] > like win way...
[06:38] <[GuS] > hahah Dr_willis
[06:38] <[GuS] > yeah...
[06:38] <Dr_willis> you dont even WANT to get me started on the fighting ive been doing with windows this week
[06:39] <[GuS] > that whats MS does... brings this kind of users :P
[06:39] <[GuS] > "hey.. i want all in the palm of my hand now"
[06:39] <clownius> ugh i still have a windoze machine in the house and my cleron 700 runs better than it does on a 1.8Ghz celeron
[06:40] <Heavenquake> my .xsession suddenly stopped working after a reboot caused by beryl crashing... now my kubuntu/kde/kdm simply ignores .xsession & .xinitrc completely...
[06:40] <[GuS] > you  should ask that in #beryl Heavenquake ?
[06:40] <Heavenquake> Should I? .xsession usually has nothing to do with beryl...
[06:41] <[GuS] > but you use beryl
[06:41] <[GuS] > or not?
[06:41] <[GuS] > so... has to do with it
[06:41] <Heavenquake> i use beryl as a window manager. But beryl does not affect .xsession...
[06:43] <Dr_willis> .xsession is 'normally' read by the startx scripts, or by a special KDM/GDM entry.    but can be overridden if other files are found
[06:43] <Dr_willis> like .xinitrc (i think)
[06:43] <Heavenquake> .xsession and .xinitrc is identical.
[06:43] <Dr_willis> they can be
[06:43] <Heavenquake> I made them be
[06:44] <Dr_willis> i thought kdm and gdm ignored both of them.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> unless there was a desktop entry that loaded them. (ive seen some disrtos do this)
[06:45] <Heavenquake> they don't. On my laptop i run openbox with pypanel using .xsession, and that's gdm. before that, i did it on kubuntu, with kdm.
[06:45] <Dr_willis> theres an openbox entry in the gdm menus?
[06:45] <Heavenquake> also. But i made it start via the .xsession, instead of choosing openbox. That would just lead to openbox starting without pypanel
[06:46] <Dr_willis> so there was a specific '.xsession' entry in the gdm session menus then. (which could have any name)
[06:46] <Dr_willis> Ive made all sorts of fun session items. :) one ran the C64 emulator fullscreen.
[06:47] <Heavenquake> i don't know what it is in english. but something like "predefined" or "custom defined" i would think it could be translated to
[06:47] <SolidSource> gdiebel: ok, easytag sucks...it doesn't maintain a database, nor does it allow for complete album ID3 tagging
[06:50] <Dr_willis> 'Custome/User Defined" sounds like  good name for the entry to use the .xsession or .xinitrc
[06:51] <Heavenquake> yee
[06:51] <Heavenquake> *yes
[06:51] <SolidSource> ok, anyone else have any suggestions for a MediaMonkey or Advanced MP3 Catalog alternative? can't find nothing that allows me to do what those can
[06:51] <Heavenquake> but that one is not in kdm. Theres default, and then the list of available DE's/WM's.
[06:52] <Heavenquake> i just had it default, and it ran .xsession smoothly. until now, at least
[06:55] <olaf-t-hunter> hi all whats the default password for root if i boot from kubuntu cd?
[06:55] <Chousuke> there is none
[06:55] <clownius> dont need one
[06:56] <olaf-t-hunter> when i type su it asks for password
[06:57] <Chousuke> don't type su
[06:57] <Chousuke> use sudo
[06:57] <Chousuke> !rootsudo
[06:57] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:57] <tjansen> why do you want to use su
[06:57] <olaf-t-hunter> i cant run sudo cd /mnt/win
[06:57] <raylu> why would you sudo cd?
[06:57] <Chousuke> you wouldn't
[06:57] <Chousuke> it's useless
[06:57] <olaf-t-hunter> because i dont have permission to access the folder
[06:57] <Chousuke> get a root shell with sudo -i
[06:58] <pulaski> hello
[06:58] <olaf-t-hunter> ahh that could work Chousuke: thanks
[07:00] <pulaski> using my kubuntu 6-10 edgy's adept or apt-get install to grab gtk-gnutella I get the following error:
[07:00] <olaf-t-hunter> cool that worked
[07:01] <pulaski> emacs-snapshot emacs-snapshot emacs21 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-package-install line 30, <TSORT> line 4.
[07:01] <pulaski> I tried it a couple times with no change
[07:01] <pulaski> can anyone offer a suggestion to get his done right?
[07:02] <pulaski> here's another piece of the message:
[07:03] <pulaski> dpkg: error processing semantic (--configure):
[07:03] <pulaski> ubprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[07:03] <pulaski> thats about it.
[07:04] <pulaski> is there a special apt-get install --configure option I can use that might help?
[07:05] <pulaski> I'd appreciate any advice.
[07:05] <clownius> got me stumped soz
[07:06] <pulaski> clownius?
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> pulaski: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:06] <pulaski> good
[07:06] <pulaski> thanks Admiral_Chicago, I'll try it
[07:07] <pulaski> should I do it after the install , such as it is, finnishes?
[07:07] <pablo> hola
[07:07] <pablo> alguien que hable espaol
[07:08] <Admiral_Chicago> !es | pablo
[07:08] <ubotu> pablo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:08] <pablo> gracias
[07:09] <pulaski> hmmm
[07:11] <pulaski> I appreciate your advice Admiral_Chicago but I seem to continue this error after I issue the udo dpkg --configure -a as you suggested.
[07:12] <pulaski> for example, here's what's returned after I execute that dpkg command you suggested:
[07:12] <pulaski> emacs-package-install: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/ede emacs-snapshot emacs-snapshot
[07:13] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm.
[07:13] <pulaski> emacs-snapshot emacs21 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-package-install line 30, <TSORT> line 4.
[07:14] <pulaski> dpkg: error processing semantic (--configure):
[07:14] <pulaski> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[07:16] <pulaski> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: semantic
[07:16] <buz> d'oh, no kde 3.80.3 for feisty?
[07:17] <pulaski> thats the last of the error message Admiral_Chicago.
[07:17] <pulaski> I wonder if my emacs21 is messing this install up?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> 3.99999999999999.2 :)
[07:18] <pulaski> I don't know what emacs has to do with it.  Perhaps if I  removed emacs21 then tried to grap gnutella again.  Do you think that might help Admiral_Chicago?
[07:19] <_eMaX_> re
[07:19] <_eMaX_> how can I tell thunderbird to start gpg on .asc files?
[07:20] <pulaski> hmmmm, very strange, the gtk-gnutella client sarted up ok
[07:21] <pulaski> Admiral_Chicago, Thanks again for the tip.  I'll play around with gtk-gnutella.  Who knows, perhaps it will work anyway.  Thanks again.
[07:23] <mjrclark> how could one use/obtain a previous kernel to use with a current release?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. could go hardcore an duse the source
[07:25] <Dr_willis> or if they are packaged versions you want. you can tell apt i THINK to install older versions
[07:26] <ScarFreewill> do you first have to allow .htaccess on a server or is it on by default?
[07:27] <mjrclark> ScarFreewill after installing apache2 with apt my website was automatically viewable globally if that is what you mean.
[07:27] <ScarFreewill> i'm runing myne localy only atm...
[07:28] <ScarFreewill> i mean with having a file in a dir with the name .htaccess that allows sertan ppl to pass
[07:29] <ScarFreewill> it does not work or i don't know how to make it work...
[07:31] <ScarFreewill> do you know what handels .htaccess? xhtml/apache?
[07:31] <fdoving> ScarFreewill: apache.
[07:31] <ScarFreewill> must be PURE TEXT or ASCII files, maybe its my encoding?
[07:32] <ScarFreewill> what does kate save in? udf-8 is that pure text?
[07:35] <Assid> err
[07:35] <Assid> something wrong with kubuntu 6.10 edgy
[07:35] <Assid> ubuntu 6.06 lts works but kubuntu doesnt ?!?!?!
[07:35] <Dr_willis> care to be a little clearer as to whats not working...........
[07:36] <Assid> no root file system
[07:36] <Assid> after formatting.. time to mount the partitions.. the default is /media/hda1 which i changed to /
[07:36] <Assid> but still no help
[07:39] <eihnat> Assid: that happened after fresh install?
[07:39] <yettenet> Is there a way to display Amarok controls on the desktop?
[07:40] <eihnat> yettenet: thru widgets (superkaramba)
[07:40] <yettenet> Thanks
[07:40] <mjrclark> which packages do I want to install a previous kernel version- images, headers, or something else?
[07:40] <eihnat> yettenet: u can also add applet to panel i think.
[07:41] <clownius> y downgrade?
[07:41] <caris_mere> My external harddrive only gives permission to the user who is first logged into. How can I change it so all can use it when plugged (USB) in?
[07:41] <yettenet> My panel is full
[07:41] <Assid> eihnat: fresh install. yes
[07:41] <yettenet> I don't want to add an applet :D
[07:41] <Assid> apparently.. if i manually edit the partitions.. it dont work
[07:41] <Assid> i have to let it do automatic
[07:41] <eihnat> caris_mere: change settings in /etc/fstab
[07:42] <yettenet> ubotu: Konfabulator
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konfabulator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <yettenet> Damn :P
[07:42] <yettenet> What the heck is Konfabulator?
[07:42] <mjrclark> clownius; my mobo/cpu has aorken acpi thing I think, so versions greater tahn 2.6.17 or so mean no fan ever!
[07:42] <eihnat> Assid: did u setup partitions properly on installing?
[07:42] <Assid> yes
[07:42] <clownius> ouch!
[07:43] <Assid> even tried putting a label.. but manual just barfs
[07:43] <Assid> autmatic works
[07:43] <Assid> i hope 6.10 isnt as buggy
[07:43] <caris_mere> eihnat: I don't see anything in my fstab about my external drive
[07:43] <Assid> the rest of it atleast
[07:44] <eihnat> caris_mere: u'll have to add those settings
[07:44] <fdoving> you should not add removable devices to /etc/fstab
[07:44] <fdoving> that's oldfashioned.
[07:44] <fdoving> :)
[07:44] <Dr_willis> Bah!
[07:44] <caris_mere> eihnat: I don't know what to add
[07:44] <Dr_willis> given how screwy the auto-mounting stuff has beel getting lately....
[07:44] <eihnat> well. yes, but if he wants' it that way. ;)
[07:44] <fdoving> what's broken about it?
[07:44] <[GuS] > caris_mere, you could manage hal on KDE too for USB devices.
[07:45] <clownius> mjrclark i install the lot, reboot , esc into grub to choose the correct kernel then remove anything looking like the old kwernel once im logged in
[07:45] <fdoving> my storage devices automounts every time.
[07:45] <caris_mere> fdoving: my wife used the computer first (logged in first) and so I can't use the external drive.  Only she has permission
[07:45] <clownius> you may save some space and get away with less but i find it easier to have the lot
[07:46] <[GuS] > caris_mere, you have another user then?
[07:46] <caris_mere> GuS: yes, me and my wife
[07:46] <eihnat> caris_mere: if u change permissions?
[07:46] <[GuS] > you should add your user to the group of your wife user...
[07:46] <[GuS] > to have same permission as she
[07:46] <eihnat> and of course be in same group
[07:46] <[GuS] > usually the id is 1000
[07:46] <caris_mere> eihnat: I tried yesterday, and couldn't get it to work
[07:47] <eihnat> 1st step would  be to be in same group
[07:47] <[GuS] > (using you wife user to add it)
[07:47] <caris_mere> I should put them in the same primary group?
[07:47] <[GuS] > since she has sudo access
[07:48] <[GuS] > caris_mere, same groups as your wife user.. example, if your wife user is: Lisa, then the gorup will be Lisa
[07:48] <[GuS] > you user should be under lisa group
[07:48] <[GuS] > or belong to it
[07:48] <eihnat> [GuS] : having wife as sudo not good idea. lol. women screw it all. :p
[07:49] <[GuS] > haha eihnat ... nah
[07:49] <caris_mere> I have her under secondary groups in my profile
[07:49] <[GuS] > but in fact she has sudo...
[07:49] <[GuS] > caris_mere, ?
[07:49] <fdoving> [GuS] : that won't work, as pmount mounts with root as the group, and user 'lisa'
[07:49] <fdoving> for fat devices.. anyway.
[07:49] <caris_mere> I'm getting confused now
[07:49] <fdoving> i use ext3 on the devices i share.. so it's not a problem.
[07:50] <fdoving> for me..
[07:50] <The_Machine> anyone here know of a pcanywhere viewer for linux?  (free)
[07:50] <caris_mere> my external drive is FAT32
[07:50] <fdoving> that's the problem.
[07:50] <[GuS] > i have no problem with that fdoving ...
[07:50] <caris_mere> fdoving: I want to use it for linux and windows
[07:50] <fdoving> [GuS] : do you use pmount to mount the devices?
[07:51] <eihnat> fdoving: i have one FAT32,and user and group are same
[07:51] <fdoving> [GuS] : do you have fstab entries for those?
[07:51] <eihnat> no root
[07:51] <fdoving> eihnat: with fstab entries?
[07:51] <eihnat> what is that?
[07:51] <fdoving> eihnat: lines in /etc/fstab for that device?
[07:51] <[GuS] > when i have to mount fat32 or ntfs... i always use fstab..
[07:51] <[GuS] > simple mount
[07:52] <fdoving> with fstab the options can vary.
[07:52] <[GuS] > or USB sticks only with hal
[07:52] <fdoving> pmount uses rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower, where uid= the uid of the user mounting.
[07:53] <eihnat> fdoving: dont have external devices in fstab
[07:54] <fdoving> eihnat: ok. then i don't understand anything. what options are your mounts mounted with?
[07:54] <eihnat> lol, dunno actually. it was automounted. :)
[07:55] <fdoving> 'mount' in a konsole will tell you, or cat /media/.hal-mtab
[07:55] <eihnat> is there way to find it?
[07:55] <caris_mere> so, have we figure a way to fix my problem?  :-)
[07:55] <eihnat> ops
[07:55] <eihnat>   /dev/sdb1 on /media/SEAGATE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[07:56] <fdoving> you have gid=, that helps.
[07:56] <eihnat> lol. konw now. :)
[07:58] <caris_mere> is there a way to fix my drive problem?
[07:58] <crowbar> Hey.  I just installed kubuntu-desktop and i'm trying to get kde set up the way i want.  I have an external panel added but i can't seem to change the settings for the new one.  only the orignal kicker panel.
[07:58] <Assid> bah
[07:58] <crowbar> trying to get the external panel to span both my screens.
[07:59] <Assid> now its stuck in installing 32_gnome_power_manager
[07:59] <Assid> or whatever
[07:59] <Assid> stuck there since a while now
[07:59] <caris_mere> fdoving: What woulld be easiest to make my drive work? My wife doesn't need access to it, if that helps.
[07:59] <Assid> err.. if i load up ubuntu 6.06.. is there a way i can update it to kubuntu latest?
[08:00] <clownius> assid yes
[08:00] <fdoving> caris_mere: she doesn't need access to any pluggable usb-things?
[08:00] <clownius> ill just find the link for you wont be a sec
[08:00] <Assid> is ubuntu 6.06lts and kubuntu 6.06lts the same thing except for kde?
[08:00] <fdoving> Assid: yes.
[08:00] <clownius> assid almost yes
[08:01] <Assid> dammit!
[08:01] <caris_mere> fdoving: my mouse, but that's all
[08:01] <clownius> assid whats the problem?
[08:01] <fdoving> caris_mere: the doesn't need any usb storage devices?
[08:01] <Assid> i shoulda just stuck to ubuntu 6.06 and did that then
[08:01] <makka2_> Hi people...I wanted to know if anyone is ableto tell me a dwg reader for linux
[08:01] <caris_mere> fdoving: no
[08:01] <fdoving> caris_mere: s/the/she
[08:01] <Assid> clownius: its stuck in installing 32_gnome_power_manager
[08:01] <Assid> been 5 mins or more now
[08:01] <weedar_> Hey guys, I need to remove a module for a webcam, seems I installed the wrong one. But rmmod complains that the module is in use
[08:01] <weedar_> what do I do? :)
[08:01] <clownius> assid its doing nothing?
[08:02] <Assid> weedar: modprobe -r
[08:02] <Assid> nope.. i dont think so
[08:02] <_eMaX_> ne1 here uses evolution as mail client?
[08:02] <fdoving> caris_mere: ok. remove her from the plugdev group, that way she can't mount the devices. 'sudo deluser jenny plugdev' if jenny were here username.
[08:02] <Assid> the LED on the cabinet is broke.... and top shows xorg using the highest resources
[08:03] <caris_mere> fdoving: ok thanks
[08:03] <fdoving> weedar_: it usually doesn't matter if you just leave it in, even if it was the wrong module for your webcam.
[08:03] <fdoving> _eMaX_: i guess more people in #ubuntu use evolution.
[08:03] <_eMaX_> har
[08:03] <caris_mere> fdoving: I still can't access the drive, do I need to restart or something?
[08:04] <clownius> assid upgrade instruction are partway down this page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[08:04] <fdoving> caris_mere: you must re-mount it. unplug it and plug it back in.
[08:04] <clownius> as to the other problem im a little lost lol
[08:05] <weedar_> fdoving: okay, good to know :)
[08:05] <Assid> clownius: thats if i am using 6.06 kubuntu
[08:05] <Assid> what if im using ubuntu
[08:05] <Assid> same apt sources?
[08:06] <clownius> assid one sec but i think its the same
[08:06] <feindbild> hi ^^
[08:06] <fdoving> Assid: same apt sources. yes.
[08:06] <Assid> DoH
[08:06] <Alumin> are there any apps out there that can turn a raster/bitmap graphic into a vector graphic?
[08:06] <Assid> waste more time
[08:06] <Assid> god doesnt like me
[08:07] <feindbild> does kubuntu work with a vanilla kernel?
[08:07] <caris_mere> fdoving: thanks for the help
[08:07] <Alumin> like for example, turn a JPEG into an SVG
[08:07] <fdoving> caris_mere: no problem. there are more elegant ways of making it work for both of you, but it's more work.
[08:07] <feindbild> Alumin: potrace
[08:08] <caris_mere> fdoving: I figured, but I just need it to work
[08:08] <cinek> hi
[08:08] <feindbild> Alumin: inkscape even has a potrace frontend
[08:08] <cinek> i'm new at ubuntu & kubuntu :D
[08:08] <Alumin> feindbild: thanks ... btw I can't think of a reason why a vanilla kernel wouldn't work
[08:09] <cinek> i have noob question
[08:09] <cinek> i know where terminal is in ubuntu, but where it is in Kubuntu?
[08:09] <buz> its called konsole
[08:09] <cinek> ok i see now
[08:09] <cinek> thanks
[08:09] <Alumin> K -> System -> Konsole
[08:09] <feindbild> Alumin: well ... you can forget about using a vannilla kernel in SuSe for example .... I'ts the one requirement before I waste one more time thinking about evaluating kubuntu =P
[08:10] <clownius> assid i cant find how but id guess similar.  i havent used ubuntu since 5.10
[08:10] <feindbild> cinek: alt+f2 -> konsole
[08:10] <cinek> :)
[08:11] <yettenet> Damn, subtlecontrol doesn't work :(
[08:13] <_eMaX_> anyone knows how to make thunderbird/enigmail save a decrypted message? I see a menu option for that, but if I do it, it tells me "no decrypted message to save" even if I have selected a message that was decrypted
[08:13] <clownius> alumin is gimp a possibility?
[08:14] <Alumin> clownius: I dunno, is it?  :)
[08:14] <Alumin> I'm going to check out this potrace when I get home, looks like it's designed for the job
[08:14] <clownius> soz i just upgraded to 64bit so ive lost half my notes and programs
[08:14] <Alumin> unfortunately I don't have the graphic in question with me, I'm at work and the idea just popped into my head
[08:15] <Alumin> I didn't think GIMP did vector graphics
[08:15] <clownius> im checking now
[08:15] <ollie_> hi people
[08:15] <ollie_> i cant get beryl to work
[08:15] <ollie_> :(
[08:15] <fdoving> !beryl
[08:15] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:15] <ollie_> effects eh
[08:16] <ollie_> catch ya there
[08:16] <ollie_> or not..
[08:17] <cinek> oh my god what a fast OS ;O
[08:17] <cecko> hi boys and girls! please how do i change subtitle size in KAFFEINE?
[08:17] <detto> is there a CLI wireless connection manager?
[08:18] <cinek> another noob question: is there 'gedit' command in kubuntu, like ubuntu?
[08:19] <cecko> cinek: use kate -- a gr8 app
[08:19] <fdoving> cecko: kaffine -> settings -> xine configuration options (or something like that) -> subtitles (in the list to the left)
[08:20] <clownius> alumin your right it doesnt
[08:20] <cecko> fdoving: thx, i wouldnt really look for it there, but otherwise kaffeine is my favorite app together with kate
[08:21] <clownius> alumin try autotace
[08:21] <Alumin> clownius: thanks, will check that out too
[08:21] <cinek> cecko: it works, thanks
[08:22] <ricmik> Hello! I'm using Kubuntu on a laptop.. Is there any way I can set the speed on the processor (centrino)? I can't find any tool in KDE?
[08:22] <ricmik> And the CPU is probably set to max... alot of noise here
[08:22] <clownius> theres also a gimp svg plugin so that may help
[08:23] <Heavenquake> where can I ask questions about Istanbul?
[08:23] <fdoving> detto: id's recommend reading /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz
[08:29] <Alumin> Heavenquake: the desktop recording software?
[08:29] <praso> hello
[08:29] <Heavenquake> Alumin:  yes
[08:30] <Alumin> Heavenquake: I guess if the home page doesn't specify a place, this is as good as any...maybe ##linux
[08:31] <Heavenquake> Alumin: are you able to help?
[08:31] <Alumin> Heavenquake: well, that depends on what your question is, doesn't it?
[08:32] <ricmik> any ideas for a good file manager for Kubuntu? I would like a file manager that shows thumbnails of images and stuff..
[08:32] <Alumin> ricmik: other than Konqueror?
[08:32] <Heavenquake> Alumin: got point there. When I run Istanbul, i get an error http://pastebin.ca/367996
[08:32] <ricmik> Alumin: yup
[08:33] <Alumin> ricmik: are you aware that Konqueror does extensive thumbnailing?
[08:33] <Alumin> I used to use xfe, but not sure if that does thumbnails
[08:34] <Alumin> Heavenquake: just FYI, you have a python problem, not an Istanbul problem per se
[08:34] <Heavenquake> oh
[08:34] <ricmik> Alumin: hmm.. can it show information from IDV3 and Meta-tags in list view?
[08:35] <Alumin> Heavenquake: you need to install the python "gconf" module
[08:36] <Alumin> ricmik: I don't know...I suspect not
[08:36] <intelikey> howto wget every link in a webpage ?
[08:36] <Blackhex> Hello, maybe this is not kubuntu related but I experience this only there. Sometimes when I'm using kmail to send mails sending gets stucked until reboot. After reboot it works. I can get any error message from console, where should I look for logs of kmail?
[08:37] <Heavenquake> Alumin: I can't seem to find the package
[08:38] <Alumin> yeah, I couldn't either
[08:38] <Alumin> how did you get Istanbul?
[08:38] <Heavenquake> Alumin: aptitude install
[08:39] <Alumin> Heavenquake: looks like the package may be broken, it should have installed any necessary packages
[08:39] <Blackhex> It may be connected with spamfilter I guess.
[08:40] <rodrigo> ae galera
[08:40] <rodrigo> instalei meu KDE agora
[08:40] <Alumin> if you're feeling saucy, you can "apt-cache show istanbul", look at the dependency list, and verify that they're all installed
[08:40] <Alumin> especially anything referencing python and/or gconf
[08:40] <rodrigo> alguem pode me ajudar a configurar a desktop?
[08:40] <Heavenquake> Alumin: not the first time I experience broken packages, so that might be the source
[08:40] <intelikey> Blackhex /var/log/mail/   might be reveiling   also /var/log/messages  could be forth comming with pertanant information.    syslog or dmesg also in the same dir.  depending on the actual cause.
[08:40] <Blackhex> var/log/message is empty checking /var/log/mail....
[08:41] <Alumin> rodrigo: tal vez en #ubuntu-es ?
[08:41] <Blackhex> /var/log/mail is empty /var/log/message says nothing about kmail or mail generally
[08:41] <ricmik> Alumin: do you know if Konqueror has support for showing thumbnails of RAW-images?
[08:42] <Alumin> ricmik: no, I don't know
[08:42] <ricmik> ok
[08:42] <Alumin> I don't think I have any of those to test with
[08:42] <Blackhex> ricmik: there is an extra package to image fileformats preview but I don't know if it supports raw
[08:46] <ricmik> Blackhex: do you remember the name of it?
[08:47] <Blackhex> checing repository...
[08:47] <bxnp> hi everybody
[08:47] <bxnp> guys i need some help
[08:47] <bxnp> just upgrade from dapper to edgy but, i have a little dependency problem
[08:48] <Heavenquake> Alumin: I asked in python and found out the obvious: aptitude install python-gconf - that solved it. Now I just have to figure out how to make it record..
[08:48] <intelikey> eeek   HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden     someone know how to get around this  (wget)  ?
[08:48] <Alumin> Heavenquake: I would open a bug against the istanbul package if I were you
[08:49] <Alumin> that dependency should have been installed during the istanbul dep resolution process
[08:49] <Heavenquake> Alumin: i never did that before. How to?
[08:49] <intelikey> bxnp uninstall what is depending on those things.  then install what you want reinstalled.
[08:49] <Blackhex> ricmik: ah I just confuse it with something else, sorry
[08:49] <bxnp> yes that is what i am doing now, trying if it works
[08:50] <Alumin> Heavenquake: use the "reportbug" command
[08:50] <intelikey> bxnp also if you are doing that text based you will see much more of the actual error
[08:51] <bxnp> i am always doing it text base, for that reason
[08:51] <ricmik> Blackhex: ah, ok :)
[08:52] <Blackhex> any idea about my kmail problem?
[08:52] <atidem> hello
[08:53] <ricmik> Alumin, Blackhex: Do you know about managing the CPU-frequency on Centrino processors?
[08:54] <Blackhex> ricmik: somethinge yes
[08:55] <ricmik> Blackhex: is there some kind of tool to set the freq? Mine is set to max, with the result of a very noisy laptop....
[08:55] <Heavenquake> Alumin: now it sent me to nano..
[08:55] <Blackhex> ricmik: the best configurable tool is cpufreqd but kubuntu has powernowd installed by default
[08:56] <ricmik> hmm
[08:56] <ricmik> doesn't look like it's installed here
[08:56] <Assid> err.. is there a way to increase the number of packages downloaded simultanenously ?
[08:58] <blubb-kbox> hi
[08:58] <blubb-kbox> does anybody know a alternive ftp client to flashfxp?
[08:58] <Blackhex> ok, I'll leave, see you alll...
[08:58] <ricmik> Blackhex: but that's for shell use only.. right?
[08:58] <blubb-kbox> i havent found any client which has all the funktionc of flashfxp
[08:59] <Blackhex> there is an frontend guidance-power-manager or something like that
[08:59] <ricmik> aha
[08:59] <Blackhex> rcmik: but i thing these things doesn not need gui's
[09:00] <Blackhex> s/thing/think
[09:00] <ricmik> Blackhex: I think it should be easy to adjust the cpu freq when I need some more speed
[09:01] <hatta> cpu speed should adjust itself
[09:01] <Blackhex> you can set different policies
[09:01] <ricmik> hatta: I thought mine did.. but it sounds like it's on max all the time
[09:02] <Assid> there has to be a way to increaser the simultanous connections
[09:03] <ubuntu> hi all
[09:03] <Heavenquake> Alumin: i ran reportbug, and then it dropped me to GNU Nano with the bug report inside. What now? is it sent, or am I supposed to copy the report into some webform, or?
[09:03] <bxnp> could somebody send me the file in /etc/init.d/ for dhcp3-server
[09:03] <bxnp> for the dapper version
[09:04] <bxnp> somebody ??
[09:05] <bxnp> i need the file, dhcp3-server for the dapper version in /etc/init.d/
[09:05] <HymnToLife> bxnp, why don't you install the package ?
[09:05] <bxnp> cause i am having depency problem at the moment
[09:05] <bxnp> and need that file
[09:06] <HymnToLife> extract it from the package manually then
[09:06] <bxnp> that files allso has the config for how to remove dhcp3-server so i can upgrade otherwise apt-get gives me an error
[09:08] <Alumin> Heavenquake: hmm
[09:08] <Alumin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/+login  <- looks like that's the login page for the Ubuntu BTS
[09:08] <Alumin> I guess I was expecting reportbug to work like it did in Debian
[09:09] <Alumin> Heavenquake: I'd use something like "reportbug --template -S normal istanbul" and then use the generated file when you do the bug report on the web site
[09:09] <Alumin> not quite as automated as Debian's, but then I bet their bug reports don't fill up with 100 spams as a result
[09:10] <pentium4> slm trk karde varm
[09:12] <waylandbill> woo! co-worker just installed ubuntu. converted another one. :-)
[09:12] <Roey> hi! where are the non-ng madwifi drivers located in Kubuntu Feisty Fawn?
[09:12] <Roey> !feisty
[09:12] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:13] <slow-motion> re
[09:13] <Roey> ah, ubuntu+1, cool
[09:13] <Roey> hey slow-motion
[09:13] <slow-motion> hi Roey
[09:13] <Roey> hey hey
[09:15] <waylandbill> how's everyone doing? I came home from work to snow snow snow. :-/
[09:18] <lu-bao> waylandbill, lol hello :) welcome back home um here ^^
[09:19] <waylandbill> :)
[09:19] <lu-bao> need help ummm
[09:20] <stefan_k> with what lu-bao?
[09:20] <lu-bao> rented a server (debian based) now i need to move files on it but i cant since ftp client aborts connection everytime firewall is out i think my server has no ftp daemon :(
[09:20] <stefan_k> rsync or scp?
[09:21] <lu-bao> um what? ^^"
[09:21] <NightBird> lu-bao: can you ssh in?
[09:21] <lu-bao> yes i can :)
[09:22] <lu-bao> and ive installed um midnight commander and htop
[09:22] <NightBird> lu-bao, you running windows?
[09:22] <lu-bao> searched for .deb packages at debian package search and got them through wget to my server :)
[09:22] <lu-bao> NightBird, yes ^^
[09:22] <NightBird> lu-bao, my suggestion would be to download an sftp program.
[09:22] <NightBird> I suggest WinSCP
[09:22] <hatta> lu-bao, check out winscp
[09:23] <lu-bao> sftp?
[09:23] <hatta> yeah
[09:23] <lu-bao> oh better one for my kubuntu :)
[09:23] <kpenrose_> putty is very good also
[09:23] <lu-bao> i have putty :D
[09:23] <NightBird> that will give you an ftp like interface to upload files through the ssh connection
[09:23] <NightBird> kpenrose_, to upload files?
[09:23] <lu-bao> putty too?
[09:23] <leopartux> how can i activate auto login
[09:23] <lu-bao> aw damn meal arrived wait brb
[09:23] <fdoving> there is pscp.exe, but it's windows-commandline-based, doesn't work that well. winscp is better iirc.
[09:24] <bxnp> what is the kernel for edgy
[09:24] <fdoving> bxnp: 2.6.17
[09:25] <bxnp> thanks now i know i have a very very broken system, wich need some help
[09:25] <leopartux> i dont want to write user password at the begining
[09:25] <bxnp> anyway upgrading process is started
[09:26] <kpenrose_> putty includes pscp, which is the putty ssh copy, should work fine
[09:26] <ricmik> Does someone know how to set up the backspace-button to act as "browse back" in konqueror/mozilla etc?
[09:27] <alarm> I've got a noobie question
[09:27] <fdoving> leopartux: open /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc with an editor as root. and go to line 533 uncommend and change the options you want.
[09:27] <alarm> Im having trouble even installing kubuntu. It just freezes on the screen
[09:27] <fdoving> leopartux: the most important keys are 'AutoLoginEnable=true' and 'AutoLoginUser=yourusername'
[09:27] <n8k99> ricmik: in konqueror >configure shortcuts
[09:30] <BluesKaj> for some reason my network shares will nor longer mount , this the the message : "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direcr user mounts" ...I havent changed anything AFAIK ...why now ?
[09:31] <BluesKaj> damn samb a what a PITA
[09:31] <PupenoR> How do I grep for "ssh" *or* "dns" ?
[09:31] <ricmik> n8k99: ah, thanks... but it doesn't seem to have any effect on firefox
[09:32] <fdoving> BluesKaj: did you upgrade anything samba related lately?
[09:32] <n8k99> sorry about that- i could only help you with  konq
[09:32] <alarm> ;kl
[09:32] <hatta> PupenoR, use |
[09:32] <fdoving> BluesKaj: if you want your chmods on files to stick over upgrades you must use dpkg-statoverride, not chmod directly
[09:32] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: having trouble with samba try winscp to a sshd connection. Works nice and no seperate user database.
[09:33] <n8k99> ricmik:  i only use ff for my school's website which uses some crazy form of javascript
[09:33] <BluesKaj> well fdoving , that's what I find so confusing...I haven't made any changes
[09:33] <hatta> winscp doesn't let you mount a volume as a filesystem
[09:33] <hatta> it's hardly an alternative to samba
[09:34] <fdoving> BluesKaj: well is smbmnt suid root?
[09:34] <waylandbill> hatta, it would be great if it did mount. I agree.
[09:34] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, what is winscp?
[09:34] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: what fish:// is
[09:34] <hatta> it's like ftp, but it runs over ssh
[09:34] <KiPSeRoN> hi somone how i can to fix the problem that have error in firefox "no video"
[09:34] <Alumin> hatta: try sshfs
[09:35] <hatta> Alumin, I was just about to suggest that to waylandbill
[09:35] <Alumin> oh, are you not the OP? heh  just came back
[09:35] <waylandbill> hatta: I hardly need to map a drive letter on windows end. only if I needed a legacy connection
[09:35] <BluesKaj> fdoving, how do I find if smbmnt suid root ?
[09:35] <Alumin> yeah, sshfs or FUSE for a more robust solution
[09:35] <fdoving> fish:/ or sftp:/ in konqueror is of course nice.
[09:36] <hatta> waylandbill, maybe you don't need to but lots of people do
[09:36] <Alumin> BluesKaj: when you do "ls -ld `which smbmount`", what do the permission bits look like?
[09:37] <waylandbill> hatta: of course. I know that. I run a samba server on my fbsd box
[09:37] <BluesKaj> Alumin, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 745312 2007-02-05 20:36 /usr/bin/smbmount
[09:37] <Alumin> ok, it's not suid then
[09:37] <leopartux> fdoving:  thanks i have found them AutoLoginEnable=true    AutoLoginUser=leopartux    is there a grafic interface for this
[09:37] <Alumin> if it were suid, the permissions bits would be -rwsr-xr-x
[09:38] <Alumin> note the s instead of x
[09:38] <fdoving> BluesKaj: stat -c %A $(which smbmnt)
[09:38] <fdoving> BluesKaj: ignore that, i didn't see the ls your pasted. it's not setuid root.
[09:39] <BluesKaj> fdoving, so how do i fix it?
[09:39] <waylandbill> I could've sworn there was a windows ssh client that could mount a drive. Doesn't cygwin offer sshfs these days?
[09:40] <waylandbill> probably would be useless outside the bash since the native apps wouldn't see it... nevermind... :-/
[09:42] <kpenrose_> Current weather for Allentown, Lehigh Valley International Airport :   Haze, Scattered clouds at 5500 feet, Temperature: 37.9F, Pressure: 29.55" Hg, Wind: 11 MPH WSW
[09:42] <katakombi> does anybody know whether there's an accessability related channel?
[09:42] <fdoving> BluesKaj: sudo dpkg-statoverride --update --add root root 4755 $(which smbmnt)
[09:42] <Alumin> waylandbill: wait, this is for win32?
[09:42] <waylandbill> Alumin: right.
[09:43] <Alumin> oh
[09:43] <Alumin> waylandbill: I'd try asking in ##windows
[09:43] <Vincentux> hi everybody
[09:43] <Alumin> you may want to ask if there's such a thing as an ssh IFS
[09:43] <Alumin> ("installable file system" driver)
[09:43] <waylandbill> Alumin: ok. not a term I knew of
[09:44] <Vincentux> I have a prob with Kopete and KDE Wallet : how can I avoid Kopete to ask the kdewallet password at each startup ? The only solution I found on www was to leave "kdewallet password" blank, which is not a safe solution
[09:44] <Alumin> and good luck...Microsoft platforms usually don't do very interesting stuff these days unless it involves rockets or railguns :)
[09:45] <Alumin> Vincentux: you've got something running at login that uses the wallet subsystem
[09:45] <waylandbill> Alumin:  :-D
[09:45] <Alumin> Vincentux: disable whatever that is
[09:47] <Vincentux> Alumin : yes, it is kopete which use the wallet. But  want it to connect on startup, but I don't want it to use the wallet ... How can I do ?
[09:47] <BluesKaj> fdoving, thx muchly ...it worked ! :)
[09:48] <Vincentux> Kopete can store its password, it doesn't need the wallet I guess. I would like to configure it to work without going through the wallet
[09:48] <fdoving> Vincentux: you can't have it safe -and- not asking for a password. it's kinda that question that makes the wallet a safer place.
[09:49] <Alumin> Vincentux: disable wallet support in kopete then
[09:50] <Vincentux> fdoving : so I should accept to enter my password at each startup to have a safe system ? this is what you are saying ?
[09:50] <Vincentux> Alumin : I would like to do so, but I cannot find where/how
[09:51] <doomnx> hello guys
[09:51] <jajuanka> telnet party
[09:51] <Alumin> Vincentux: I don't think Kopete can store its passwords anywhere but the wallet
[09:51] <jajuanka> enter here
[09:51] <fdoving> Vincentux: that's up to you. but yes. passwords make systems safer. if you want safe you have to do something to 'unlock' the safety.
[09:51] <jajuanka> telnet mnb.sytes.net 20000
[09:51] <Alumin> so you just have to disable "save passwords"
[09:51] <doomnx> sorry for interupting
[09:52] <doomnx> but i am new to kubuntu and i seem to have a problem with disc partitions
[09:52] <jajuanka> HI GUYS. ENTER HERE IN TELNET
[09:52] <jajuanka> TELNET MNB.SYTES.NET 20000
[09:52] <doomnx> if anyone feels like helping me let me know
[09:53] <Vincentux> Alumin : that would explain a lot ;) - fdoving : I agree with you, but why Konqueror doesn't ask the wallet password ? It is added in the policy "always accept", but I cannot add apps in this policy. Pity ...
[09:55] <Vincentux> Alumin : if I deactivate the wallet, Kopete carries on connecting at startup. Is this compatible with your theory ?
[09:55] <fdoving> Vincentux: kwallet asks for the password when konqueror requests it to, if the wallet isn't already open. (ie. opened by kopete)
[09:55] <Alumin> Vincentux: yes, it'll just prompt for the password
[09:55] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: I had to go away... Did you get your key revoked following the instructions?
[09:55] <Alumin> you can also configure kopete not to auto-connect, but that's separate from save password
[09:56] <fdoving> Vincentux: look at kwallet like a safe, when the door is open the authorized programs can access it. you can configure this in kwallet -> settings -> configure kwallet -> access control (tab)
[09:56] <bxnp> is edgy faster then  dapper
[09:57] <fdoving> bxnp: yes, it uses dash instead of bash for most non-interactive shells (most scripts etc.) that is faster.
[09:57] <Vincentux> fdoving : yes, I see the menu you are talking about. I read in the doc we cannot add applications there ... but I understand
[09:58] <Vincentux> ok, Alumin, fdoving : thank you for your help. I have a better understanding of the wallet functionning now
[09:58] <doomnx> well, i used to have two NTFS partitions on the HDD, 40GB (winxp) and 80GB. when i installed Kubuntu i resized the first partition and released 5GB for the installation. after that the 2nd (80GB) partition is only accessible from Kubuntu and not windows. can i do anything about that?
[09:59] <cpk1> O.o an slocate update?
[09:59] <Vincentux> I will accept to enter a second password after my session logon ;) - When will we have biometric identification support on linux ? :)
[09:59] <fdoving> Vincentux: if you have a fingerprint-reader, it can be used :)
[10:00] <doomnx> sorry for my english, if the above doesn't make any sense plz let me know
[10:01] <Vincentux> fdoving : what about the drivers for the reader ? :) I would ready to buy one ...
[10:02] <cpk1> doomnx: is the 80gB formatted as EXT or NTFS?
[10:02] <premier_> why am I having so much trouble with linux?
[10:02] <_6StringKng_> so I installed Vista Ultimate yesterday, on a seperate HDD, anyway I could adds it to the OS list in grub?
[10:02] <doomnx> cpk1: it is NTFS
[10:03] <cpk1> doomnx: you sure you didnt accidently format it?
[10:03] <doomnx> i can view my old files on Kubuntu, but I don't know why it doesn't even appear on windows
[10:04] <premier_> I was running, amarok, and I was trying to find a peice of music, and it started scrolling through all my music rapidly.  Then it crashed, which caused everything else to become unresponsive, so I had to restart my computer, and now it wont play music at all
[10:04] <ccherrett> how can you check what version of glib you are running?
[10:04] <cpk1> thats really odd
[10:04] <fdoving> Vincentux: i don't have one myself, so i'm not that up2date on the drivers, but i know they exist.
[10:04] <cpk1> premier_: sounds like you need the right codecs
[10:04] <doomnx> it's like it changed the file system and windows doesn't recognise it
[10:05] <doomnx> but on linux it says it's still NTFS
[10:05] <cpk1> doomnx: it would of had to format it to change it
[10:05] <premier_> cpk1: it was worknig find before
[10:05] <fdoving> ccherrett: dpkg -l libglib*
[10:05] <premier_> Its going through all the motions, I can even see the the analyzer go up and down with the beats, but I cant actually hear anything.  Its like Im going deaf
[10:06] <doomnx> do u think something might have gone wrong with Gparted on resize?
[10:06] <ccherrett> fdoving: thanks, is it possible to install a newer version?
[10:06] <Frost^> Hey there. I've java installed, and it is working on firefox. It does not however work with konqueror. Does anyone happen to know what to do?
[10:07] <cpk1> premier_: well you could try using amarok 1.4.5 and see if that helps at all
[10:07] <Vincentux> fdoving : I found a mouse with biometric reader for 60 EUR here... but after we need the drivers. I will check this, about the linux support, but later. I am a newbie on Linux/Buntu, I have more crucial problems to solve ;)
[10:07] <cpk1> Frost^: go to settings > configure konquerer > plugins then click search for new plugins or somesuch
[10:08] <fdoving> ccherrett: i wouldn't recommend updating to anything not packages for your kubuntu release. why would you need to update it?
[10:08] <DjDarkman> hy ,I think someting is wrong with my harddrive is there a program that can diagnose it?
[10:08] <detto> fsck
[10:08] <Frost^> I've done that already. Java does not appear in the "detected plugins", even though the path does appear to be there.
[10:08] <cpk1> DjDarkman: smartmontools
[10:08] <ccherrett> fdoving: i want to compile gimp svn
[10:09] <doomnx> could the MFT be messed up? if i reinstall windows is there a chance for my 80GB partition to be recognised?
[10:09] <fdoving> ccherrett: then i'd suggest compiling a newer glib too, i'd suggest setting the prefix to /opt for both.
[10:09] <ccherrett> fdoving: ok will do
[10:10] <fdoving> ccherrett: then you can have your selfcompiled experimental stuff in /opt/ and the good old working system untouched by your experimental hacking projects.
[10:10] <ccherrett> I guess I then have to tell gimp where to get glib from as well
[10:10] <DjDarkman> cpk1: i installed it ,but how do I use it?
[10:10] <fdoving> i guess if you pass them the same prefix, gimp will find it's new glib friend.
[10:10] <cpk1> Frost^: have you tried using a java website yet
[10:10] <ccherrett> fdoving: thanks
[10:11] <Frost^> Yes. It works in firefox, konqueror just shows a "Loading Applet" message.
[10:11] <cpk1> DjDarkman: I cant remember and I dont have the man, its something like smart <someoption> /dev/hda (or whatever logical name your hdd has)
[10:11] <DjDarkman> ok thanks cpk1 ,I`ve tried to find a man page too
[10:12] <doomnx> anyway... something last: because this is my 3rd day on linux, and i haven't got an internet connection at home, i'd like to ask something really newbish... how can install the graphics card drivers that i downloaded from the NVIDIA website?
[10:12] <_eMaX_> Lynoure yes that seemed to work
[10:12] <doomnx> if there is a guide about it i would be grateful
[10:12] <_eMaX_> Lynoure now I still have problems with it; particularly as Evolution and also Thunderbird keep the mails in their encrypted format - and thus cannot search them.
[10:12] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: I'm glad. It's not really harmful to have defunct keys on the servers but it is a bit annoying.
[10:13] <waylandbill> Frost^: konq wants the java path set explicitly "/usr/bin/java"
[10:13] <waylandbill> Frost^: don't ask why. don't know that. just know it does
[10:14] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: and doing Enigmail->Decrypt/Verify  and then Enigmail->Save as decrypted  does not help?
[10:14] <cpk1> doomnx: it would be better if you got the .deb from the ubuntu packages site
[10:14] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: it has been over a year since I used Thunderbird...
[10:14] <jhutchins> doomnx: Is it possible that you've just changed drive letters and Windows isn't finding the third partition?
[10:15] <doomnx> jhutchins how do i check that?
[10:15] <doomnx> cpk1 where iss the ubuntu packages site?
[10:15] <jhutchins> WEll, you had 40/80 before, right? Same drive?
[10:15] <Frost^> waylandbill: Interesting, I accidentally set it to /opt/bin/java before.
[10:15] <doomnx> same drive yes
[10:15] <jhutchins> Now you have 35/5/80?
[10:15] <doomnx> yes
[10:15] <cpk1> doomnx: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[10:16] <doomnx> thanks cpk1
[10:16] <jhutchins> I presume this is /dev/hda, does fdisk -l /dev/hda show the partitions correctly and of the correct type?
[10:16] <Frost^> waylandbill: It still doesn't work...
[10:17] <Frost^> When you said it wants the java path set, where should it be set?
[10:17] <doomnx> jhutchins one moment... i am on a net cafe... using windows... but through system settings in ubuntu, it shows the correct types
[10:18] <waylandbill> Frost^: absolute path to 'java'
[10:18] <cpk1> doomnx: now that I think about it though, there might be too many dependencies to just get the packages from the website
[10:18] <Frost^> In konq's configuration screen, under "java & javascript"?
[10:19] <waylandbill> Frost^: correct
[10:19] <doomnx> kubuntu 6.10 is edgy, right?
[10:19] <Frost^> Hmmm...
[10:19] <cpk1> yes
[10:19] <doomnx> and what is backports on the site?
[10:19] <Frost^> It's still a no go for some reason..
[10:19] <DjDarkman> how can I check if my harddrive`s DMA works?
[10:19] <Frost^> And I even killed konqueror after setting it
[10:19] <waylandbill> Frost^: sorry. :-/
[10:19] <cpk1> doomnx: I think it would be too difficult to get the package from the packages website though, there are quite a few dependencies for it
[10:19] <doomnx> oh ok
[10:20] <Frost^> Well, still, thanks a lot for trying
[10:20] <doomnx> then how do i install that .run file?
[10:20] <Frost^> Something is fishy about this though
[10:20] <_eMaX_> Lynoure no. because it tells me "there's no decrypted message to save". stupid message :)
[10:20] <doomnx> jhutchins any ideas? i can access (read only mode) the partition on kubuntu but not on windows :(
[10:20] <premier_> how do I reinstall a program?  like alsa?
[10:20] <DjDarkman> never mind ,I remember it now
[10:20] <cpk1> doomnx: you need to stop X and then login through a terminal and then just do ./nameofnvidia.run
[10:21] <doomnx> dot included?
[10:21] <jhutchins> I think what's happened is that it's moved from partition 2 to partition 3.
[10:21] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: Even when you have decrypted it as the very previous step?
[10:21] <_eMaX_> Lynoure I'd rather like to have that working in evolution, but evolution severely fucks up messages I send pgp encrypted through the exchange adapter. So I keep sending them from thunderbird and shove messages from one to the other using my local imap
[10:21] <_eMaX_> sure i can read the message :)
[10:21] <cpk1> doomnx: yes
[10:21] <jhutchins> There are some rumors that some versions of windows only recognize two primary partitions and the rest must be virtual, but it's supposed to recognize four.
[10:21] <doomnx> jhutchins and i can see the partition through the windows disc manages but it says "Unknown"
[10:21] <cpk1> doomnx: it would be much easier if you could do this through apt
[10:21] <jhutchins> doomnx: Ok.
[10:22] <Frost^> It doesn't say anything in the console either, damn it
[10:22] <doomnx> manages=manager*
[10:22] <jhutchins> doomnx: I'd like you to open a console for me, because the information's a little bit clearer in text mode.
[10:22] <jhutchins> I was just going to ask you about disk manager.
[10:22] <doomnx> but i am not on my PC right now
[10:22] <jhutchins> k.
[10:22] <en1gma> hey all im burning amd-64 edgy 6.10 and am wondering will i be able to boot the libe dvd with my nvidia 8800gtx without having to go into "safe graphics mode"
[10:23] <doomnx> cpk1 and what do i have to do through apt?
[10:23] <dhorn> Hey, is there any way to reset the default position/properties of kicker?  I hid it and I can't get it back
[10:23] <jhutchins> WHat I would suggest is that you do sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda and see what type the partition is listed.  It should match the first partition, obviously.
[10:23] <cpk1> doomnx: an internet connection
[10:24] <jhutchins> doomnx: Actually, you can just do fdisk -l
[10:24] <doomnx> oh u mean download the drivers through apt?
[10:24] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: that's not necessarily enough. Did you try doing those two commands in sequence?
[10:24] <premier_> how do I reinstall a program?  like alsa?
[10:24] <en1gma> anyone know about kubuntu and 8800 gtx
[10:25] <doomnx> jhutchins ok when i go home i will hit alt+f2 and type sudo fdisk -1?
[10:25] <jhutchins> doomnx: What you want to look at is the ID colum - the number should match, not just the description.
[10:25] <_eMaX_> well when I click on the mail it is decrypted automatically in the preview pane. and yes I tried them in sequence.
[10:25] <dhorn> Hey, is there any way to reset the default position/properties of kicker?  I hid it and I can't get it back
[10:26] <jhutchins> doomnx: NTFS can be "86" or "87", and I'm not sure what the difference is.
[10:26] <doomnx> and number should match with... what?
[10:26] <doomnx> oh
[10:26] <jhutchins> First off, I would say the number should match the first partition.
[10:26] <jhutchins> If it already does, I suppose you can change the type to the other option and see if windows recognizes it.
[10:26] <jhutchins> doomnx: You used qparted?
[10:27] <doomnx> yes i did
[10:27] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: Mozilla and enigmail are not quite seamless, so sometimes a mail can be shown plaintext when enigmail no longer sees it as decrypted (or so people say)
[10:27] <cpk1> hrmm i think google search says ntfs uses 7...
[10:27] <jhutchins> doomnx: Odd thing is, of course, you didn't actually change the affected partition.
[10:27] <_eMaX_> ok
[10:27] <jhutchins> doomnx: Something else you can try is "detect new hardware".
[10:27] <_eMaX_> It just worked for some reason
[10:27] <_eMaX_> but saving just saved it to disk
[10:27] <_eMaX_> I want to keep it saved in my mail folders.
[10:28] <_eMaX_> but decrypted, as the mail folder files themselves are on an encrypted storage
[10:28] <jhutchins> doomnx: You know... it should see the second partition, which is linux, as an unknown filesystem.  Do you show two unknown partitions?
[10:28] <om3ga> hey quick ?? what stand alone mail program does every one perfer in kubuntu
[10:28] <doomnx> i didn't try detecting new hardware but shouldn't windows detect it on start?
[10:29] <KiPSeRoN> somone can help me
[10:29] <jhutchins> om3ga: kmail
[10:29] <doomnx> jhutchins yes 2 uknown partitions
[10:29] <jhutchins> doomnx: Should != windows.
[10:29] <om3ga> ok
[10:29] <jhutchins> doomnx: rats.
[10:29] <doomnx> 1st is the active one that holds windows
[10:29] <doomnx> then 2 unknown
[10:30] <doomnx> and then it shows the other HDD
[10:30] <Lynoure> KiPSeRoN: Only if you tell someone what you need help with...
[10:30] <KiPSeRoN> when i boot up my kubuntu system its show me that starting up but i get a command line but after few sec its gone and i get a blank screen that i can type in it but its dont do anything somone can help me
[10:30] <jhutchins> doomnx: I'm not even sure you can do a fsck on ntfs.
[10:30] <KiPSeRoN> ?
[10:30] <doomnx> have i messed up the MFT or what?
[10:30] <jhutchins> doomnx: Partition table.
[10:31] <doomnx> jhutchins can i just copy important files from 80GB partition to 35GB through linux?
[10:31] <jhutchins> doomnx: It's possible you do not have the same information in two tables.
[10:31] <KiPSeRoN> Lynoure:
[10:31] <jhutchins> doomnx:  Oh yeah, that works great.
[10:31] <KiPSeRoN> YOU KNOW HOW TO HELP ME
[10:31] <KiPSeRoN> ?
[10:31] <doomnx> but i get an error every time i try that
[10:31] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: I just saw a complicated workaround for that, but if you get encrypted mail daily, it's too complicated
[10:31] <Lynoure> !caps | KiPSeRoN
[10:31] <ubotu> KiPSeRoN: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:31] <jhutchins> doomnx: Ah HA!
[10:32] <jhutchins> doomnx: What error, when you do what?
[10:32] <_eMaX_> which workaround
[10:32] <doomnx> copy from the 1 ntfs partition to the other
[10:32] <jhutchins> doomnx: Because you don't have NTFS writing enabled, right?
[10:32] <doomnx> 80 to 35(windows)
[10:32] <Lynoure> KiPSeRoN: I was just telling you to tell people on the channel your problem, not offering my help is specific, I'll have to go soon.
[10:32] <doomnx> jhutchins i guess so
[10:32] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: lessee if I can find it again...
[10:32] <_eMaX_> tnx
[10:32] <jhutchins> doomnx: Do you have any of this backed up?
[10:33] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: if I recall right it was 7 steps long.
[10:33] <doomnx> jhutchins any of which?
[10:33] <jhutchins> doomnx: How much data on the 80?
[10:33] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.enigmail.general/month=20050801
[10:34] <om3ga> where do i open kmail
[10:34] <doomnx> well it's enough data, but if i manage to pass it to C: then i can transfer to external storage or DVDs and format the whole HDD from scratch
[10:34] <jhutchins> om3ga: Alt-F2, kmail
[10:34] <_eMaX_> tnx!
[10:34] <om3ga> i got it n/m
[10:34] <om3ga> tnx
[10:34] <jhutchins> doomnx: Well, what about transfering it to external storage via linux?
[10:35] <cpk1> doomnx: you can just pass it to your linux partition (actually you probably dont even need to do that) and then back it up to wherever you want
[10:35] <Lynoure> KiPSeRoN: but I can ask you some troubleshooting questions that might help: Has your kubuntu always done that? If not, when did it start and what did you change then? Which version you are using?
[10:35] <en1gma> does anyone know if amd-64 edgy 6.10 will work like it should without having to startup in "safe graphics mode" with an 8800gtx
[10:35] <KiPSeRoN> Lynoure:
[10:35] <doomnx> u got a point there
[10:35] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: If that "thx" was for me, you are welcome :)
[10:35] <KiPSeRoN> listen i restart my computer
[10:35] <doomnx> but linux partition is only 3GB
[10:36] <KiPSeRoN> and move to windows for sec
[10:36] <KiPSeRoN> but i click on kubuntu
[10:36] <doomnx> 3.5
[10:36] <faLUCE> Hi. my kernel version is 2.6.17-10-generic. I must compile a new patched vanilla kernel.... which version is stable for kubuntu?
[10:36] <KiPSeRoN> and before its up
[10:36] <KiPSeRoN> i do restart
[10:37] <KiPSeRoN> and go to windows when i restart agein and leave the windwos its give me that problem its look like the system is start but the i get the command line after few minuts its gone and come the black screen
[10:37] <KiPSeRoN> and i am using 6.10
[10:37] <KiPSeRoN> edgy
[10:38] <KiPSeRoN> no
[10:38] <Lynoure> KiPSeRoN: commandline as in command prompt? or just line of bootup?
[10:38] <KiPSeRoN> 6.10
[10:38] <doomnx> well i got another 80GB HDD... i can connect it and transfer the files through linux
[10:38] <KiPSeRoN> commandline
[10:38] <doomnx> but it is NTFS
[10:38] <KiPSeRoN> kipseron
[10:38] <doomnx> can it write on NTFS?
[10:38] <KiPSeRoN> desktop and place to type command
[10:38] <cpk1> doomnx: yes you can, but you run the risk of corrupting the data
[10:38] <doomnx> oh oh...
[10:39] <doomnx> then what format should i make that disc?
[10:39] <KiPSeRoN> Lynoure:
[10:39] <jhutchins> doomnx: Hang on...
[10:39] <KiPSeRoN> you maybe have an idea that i can try to fix that problem
[10:39] <cpk1> ext3 or ext2 I cant remember if there is an ext3 driver for windows but I know there is an ext2 driver for windows
[10:40] <doomnx> but will windows be able to read that disc in order to move the files back?
[10:40] <_eMaX_> it was for you. I tested it. It basically works, but is as the author also says very far from ideal - you loose the header info. Well that could probably be "unparsed" with some perl script, yet today I am too tired for that
[10:41] <_eMaX_> thanks anyways
[10:41] <blubb-kbox> ey guys
[10:41] <BluesKaj> cpk1, do you mean ntfs-3g ?
[10:41] <blubb-kbox> does anybody know a good ftp client.. an alternative client to flashfxo /windows
[10:41] <Lynoure> KiPSeRoN: From your description I would not rule out anything, starting from a damaged file system. You could try booting with rescue cd or something and then run e2fsck -f on your root partition
[10:41] <KiPSeRoN> ok
[10:41] <KiPSeRoN> i try that
[10:42] <cpk1> BluesKaj: i suppose, I havent had to bother with ntfs write support
[10:42] <doomnx> sorry for being tiring for u guys...
[10:42] <KiPSeRoN> live cd
[10:42] <KiPSeRoN> its good
[10:42] <KiPSeRoN> ?
[10:42] <Lynoure> !enter
[10:42] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:42] <doomnx> if only i could reveal that partition to WinXP... it would all be fine
[10:42] <Lynoure> KiPSeRoN: yes, it's fine.
[10:43] <doomnx> can linux write on FAT32?
[10:43] <BluesKaj> doomnx, try a small program acalled "ntfs-3g"
[10:43] <acetoxy> I can't change my keyboard layout in Regional Settings -> Keyboard Layout. All input boxes are empty and I can't change enything. Any ideas?
[10:43] <doomnx> ntfs-3g? and what does it do?
[10:44] <KiPSeRoN> its give you a promission to make a readable ntfs partiton
[10:44] <jhutchins> doomnx: Ok, did you say you have some essentially blank NTFS storage?
[10:44] <BluesKaj> doomnx, it lets you write and exchange files from windoe sto linux
[10:44] <KiPSeRoN> not read
[10:44] <KiPSeRoN> write yeah
[10:44] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: if you come up with some good way of doing the same, please publish it on a blog or ubuntu wiki or somewhere.
[10:44] <doomnx> jhutchins tes u di
[10:44] <doomnx> yes i do*
[10:44] <_eMaX_> will do
[10:44] <cpk1> BluesKaj: I still think if he has blank ntfs storage he might as well format that to ext2/3 and make life easier
[10:45] <jhutchins> What about reformatting it to vfat?
[10:45] <doomnx> vfat?
[10:45] <jhutchins> fat32
[10:45] <BluesKaj> yup cpk1 , agreed ...if he has no files on the fat/ntfs drive
[10:45] <doomnx> fat32 supports files up to what size?
[10:45] <cpk1> jhutchins: why not EXT? windows can read EXT
[10:46] <Roey> cpk1:  windows can read ext3??
[10:46] <Roey> natively?
[10:46] <jhutchins> cpk1: Only with special drivers, which can be a pain.
[10:46] <jhutchins> No.
[10:46] <Lynoure> _eMaX_: :) I'll now escape to sleep. Thank you for being so patient.
[10:46] <cpk1> not sure about ext3 but ext2 for sure
[10:46] <jhutchins> not natively.
[10:46] <Roey> jhutchins:  that's what I thought
[10:46] <BluesKaj> I can read linux files from windows , yes
[10:46] <doomnx> well my windows can't read ext3 obviously
[10:46] <jhutchins> doomnx: I don't know the file size limit for vfat off the top of my head.
[10:46] <dwidmann> doomnx: supports files up to 4gb I thought ...... might be less
[10:47] <doomnx> cause there are some DVD isos in that "invisible" 80GB partition
[10:47] <cpk1> and actually you can format ext3 and then when windows uses it it just wont write to the journal
[10:47] <_eMaX_> thanks to you!
[10:48] <doomnx> so linux can't write to NTFS... windows can't read ext3... and i am desperate...
[10:48] <BluesKaj> linux can write to ntfs !
[10:48] <jhutchins> doomnx: Ok, fat32 file size limit is 4GB.
[10:48] <dwidmann> Linux can write to NTFS, Windows can read to and write to ext3
[10:49] <jhutchins> doomnx: Here's the deal on ntfs:
[10:49] <doomnx> we put away the "revealing partition to windows" scenario?
[10:49] <dwidmann> Linux writing to NTFS isn't particularly stable though .... don't do it if you really rely on the data you're putting on there
[10:49] <jhutchins> Originally, there was only one flavor of NTFS that was part of NT3.5/4.  Linux had kernel level drivers that were find for reading AND WRITING to this filesystem.
[10:49] <BluesKaj> look in the system menu 'storage media'
[10:50] <cpk1> doomnx: windows can read ext3, it just wont use the journal, and linux can write to ntfs it just might corrupt your data but I think for the most part that doesnt happen anymore
[10:50] <jhutchins> THen Microsoft started messing around with the NFTS specs, and introduced a few off-flavor types.
[10:50] <jhutchins> NT drivers recognize and compensate for the differences, but Microsoft never released any documentation on them.  The origninal Linux R/W drivers couldn't tell that it wasn't a standard NTFS.
[10:51] <jhutchins> The BIG problem is that the first symptom you get that you have one of the rare, incompatible versions is major corruption.
[10:51] <jhutchins> You either loose any files you changed, or the files around them too, or the whole partition.
[10:51] <doomnx> oh and something else that might help: when i booted from the WinXP installation disc it could read that the 80GB partition is NTFS
[10:51] <cpk1> also, the ext2 driver for windows looks pretty simple and straightforward
[10:51] <doomnx> but Windows themselves see it "unknown"
[10:51] <jhutchins> It's like heart disease: when the first symptom is catastrophic failure, it's very difficult to diagnose or treat.
[10:52] <ubuntu> Lynoure:
[10:52] <ubuntu> ?
[10:52] <ubuntu> it me kipseron
[10:52] <jhutchins> THere are two solutions to this: captive NTFS and the new NTFS-3g drivers.
[10:52] <jhutchins> Captive searches for the NTFS drivers in the windows partition read-only, then loads them and remounts the partition using Microsoft's own code.
[10:52] <ErikTheRed> does anyone know if it is possible to resize an XFS partition without destroying the data on it?
[10:53] <jhutchins> Doesn't always work, it's slow, but it's usually successful.
[10:53] <judge> moin
[10:53] <jhutchins> ntfs-3g is new code taht attempts to reverse-engineer all possible NTFS flavors, and at the very least refuse to write if doing so would destroy data.
[10:53] <cpk1> i still think if he has that empty 80gB hdd formatting it to ext3/2 would be simplest
[10:54] <jhutchins> cpk1: Why not format it to vfat, which both linux and windows can read natively?
[10:54] <cpk1> file size limitation
[10:54] <doomnx> indeed :(
[10:54] <matsavhalev> hi guys, anyone going to FOSDEM?
[10:54] <jhutchins> cpk1: Only an issue if he has files over 4GB.
[10:54] <cpk1> if he is sitting on dvd isos he might have some files over 4gB
[10:54] <doomnx> i do have
[10:54] <jhutchins> doomnx: Do you?
[10:55] <doomnx> most of the files i wanna "reascue" are game isos
[10:55] <doomnx> rescue*
[10:55] <jhutchins> doomnx: What about burning them?
[10:55] <doomnx> they are mds/mdf
[10:55] <jhutchins> doomnx: Do you need access to them from windows?
[10:55] <doomnx> yeah i usually mount them with daemon tools
[10:56] <jhutchins> doomnx: http://freshmeat.net/projects/mdf2iso/
[10:56] <doomnx> k3b doesn't support mdf does it?
[10:56] <cpk1> doomnx: http://www.fs-driver.org/ read about it yourself so you can make an educated decision for yourself
[10:57] <doomnx> ok we can convert those games to iso but i don't fell like burning so many CD/DVDs
[10:57] <doomnx> not to mention i keep them on HDD on purpose
[10:58] <cpk1> doomnx: like I said, do some reading so you can decide what you want since in the end its not what we want but how you want to use your system
[10:58] <jhutchins> doomnx: I think what I'd do would be to use the ntfs-3g drivers to write the files to the external ntfs drive.  That way you don't loose the originals, and you create a possible recovery disk.
[10:58] <jhutchins> Then you can reformat the "bad" partition into whatever you decide.
[10:58] <ubuntu__> yaccin: that 2nd tastymenu package worked but it was a little buggy
[10:58] <jhutchins> I take it you're pretty much committed to a one-PC solution here, right?
[10:58] <lontra> sorry :/
[10:58] <hatta> proprietary CD/DVD image formats are evil
[10:59] <jhutchins> hatta: As are propietary/undoccumented filesystems.
[10:59] <yaccin> ubuntu_: how buggy?
[10:59] <doomnx> jhutchins if u mean i only have 1 PC u're right
[10:59] <lontra> yaccin: some times the icon would partially disappear
[11:00] <doomnx> do u thing formating and reinstalling windows will make them detect the partition?
[11:00] <yaccin> hmm strange
[11:00] <jhutchins> doomnx: One of the easiest ways to deal with the format problem is to use samba to connect over the network, then Linux can use NTFS and Windows ext/reiser.
[11:00] <lontra> i've also found the opensuse menu to be kind of buggy on kubuntu...at least the .deb packages out there
[11:00] <yaccin> lontra: feisty?
[11:00] <lontra> yaccin: yes
[11:00] <jhutchins> doomnx: I would suggest using qparted to see if there's anything you can fix before you reinstall windows.
[11:01] <doomnx> what do u mean fix?
[11:01] <jhutchins> doomnx: I would try copying to the external drive with ntfs-3g.
[11:01] <jhutchins> doomnx: See if qparted sees anything wrong with the partition or partition table, ask it to fix it.
[11:02] <doomnx> why couldn't i split 5GB into 1.5 and 3.5? i was only able to do it with WinXP install disc
[11:02] <cpk1> and I would reformat the extra drive to ext3 since its empty ^^ and then move the files around
[11:02] <doomnx> is qparted installed on kubuntu?
[11:03] <lontra> yaccin: have you made a deb package of the openSuSE menu?
[11:03] <jhutchins> doomnx: No idea, didn't you say you'd used it to resize things?
[11:03] <jhutchins> doomnx: Wherever you originally got it.
[11:03] <lontra> doomnx: if it's not install it
[11:03] <cpk1> i think he meant during the install
[11:03] <jhutchins> doomnx: I just use fdisk myself. resizing is so slow I've never been patient enough to do it.
[11:04] <doomnx> jhutchins i used qparted on the installation of kubuntu
[11:04] <yaccin> at first
[11:04] <yaccin> but then i compiled it
[11:04] <BluesKaj> i had better luck with gparted -livecd
[11:04] <jhutchins> doomnx: THen it must be on the disk.
[11:04] <doomnx> lontra i can't install anything on linux, i don't have an internet connection at home
[11:04] <lu-bao> mmmh now i want to make  a website :x *need clues*
[11:05] <lontra> yaccin: was it difficult to compile?
[11:05] <jordo23> Is there a way to record your desktop to video (to demonstrate 3d effects) from KDE?
[11:05] <lontra> jordo23: recordmydesktop?
[11:05] <cpk1> doomnx: qparted should be a package on the disc, put the disc in and run apt-cdrom
[11:05] <lontra> !recordmydesktop
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recordmydesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <lontra> !info recordmydesktop
[11:05] <ubotu> Package recordmydesktop does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[11:05] <yaccin> lontra: no :)
[11:05] <lontra> he he
[11:06] <jordo23> :)
[11:06] <jhutchins> cpk1: can you download DVD iso's at school and get them home somehow?
[11:06] <cox377> how much ram does kubuntu nativly use
[11:06] <doomnx> well i need either drivers for NTFS on linux or drivers for EXT2 on windows... that's the sum, no?
[11:06] <jhutchins> cox377: Depends on what you're running.
[11:06] <cox377> because i'm using about 420mb out of 512mb with nothing running, well no user applications anyway
[11:06] <cox377> jhutchins: well with nothing open its 420mb
[11:06] <cpk1> i suppose if you had a nice someone in charge at the school you could
[11:06] <jhutchins> cox377: It'll use as much as is available for caching and buffering, freeing it if needed for programs.
[11:07] <cox377> jhutchins: Umm??
[11:07] <jhutchins> 512M is very comfortable.
[11:07] <doomnx> and anyone happens to know how i run the .run from the nvidia driver site?
[11:07] <cpk1> cox377: you will always be using about all of your ram in linux, thats just how it does things
[11:07] <jhutchins> doomnx: As above, including the dot.
[11:08] <SSJ_GZ> cox377: Memory benchmarks for KDE here : http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html and here : http://spooky-possum.org/cgi-bin/pyblosxom.cgi/kdevsgnome.html
[11:08] <cpk1> cox377: you will know if you need more ram if you start filling up the swap
[11:08] <doomnx> can u give that again?
[11:08] <jhutchins> dot is shorthand for </absolute/path/to/this/current/directory>
[11:08] <cox377> jhutchins: how do i check swap?
[11:08] <jhutchins> How did you see how much memory was used?
[11:09] <stone_> i have a question i've downloaded kubunto ver. 6.10 and i can't burn it to dvd it says it's corrupt, any way to fix?
[11:09] <SSJ_GZ> cox377: General introduction to Linux memory management: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-175419-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html
[11:09] <cox377> jhutchins: process table
[11:09] <jhutchins> I use the console tools iostat or just top.
[11:09] <cpk1> doomnx: you need to stop X (go to tty1 then do sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop) then do ./nameofnvidia.run
[11:09] <jhutchins> Wow,that's a new one.  "invoke-rc.d".
[11:09] <doomnx> one moment cause i'm realy newbie... where do i enter the commmands? alt-f2?
[11:10] <jhutchins> That'd be the same thing as "service" in Fedora I guess, which just runs "/etc/init.d/kdm stop".
[11:10] <cpk1> doomnx: press ctrl alt f1
[11:10] <cpk1> doomnx: I think you still need the kernel headers though which you DONT have
[11:10] <stone_> off topic<< does any one know of a good irc game server?
[11:10] <Lord_Flasheart> CVirus: hey dude, i wasn't able to edit the grub menu like you suggested - you can remove quiet, but then if you try to press b or go back up to the top level and press enter, it just reboots the computer and when you go and check it hasn't saved the change?
[11:11] <Kr4t05> Can you use special characters, like the Greek letter "", in KMenu entries, are you?
[11:11] <doomnx> i downloaded a .run and something like x-config archive
[11:12] <doomnx> the os installation is "out of the box" no updates, no installations (don't know how to....) :P
[11:12] <doomnx> and i wanted to start from the basics... drivers...
[11:13] <doomnx> i searched the net and everywhere it says that u must have an internet connection and use apt-get
[11:13] <cpk1> doomnx: why cant you use the internet with linux?
[11:13] <LaNCeloT_RW> hi ppl , im trying to play some wmv files... but is not working... what should I do ?
[11:13] <doomnx> i just don't have internet at home... neither on windows
[11:13] <cpk1> oh i see
[11:13] <HymnToLife> doomnx, Ubuntu is not for you then
[11:13] <lontra> LaNCeloT_RW: install w32codecs
[11:13] <doomnx> i realised that...
[11:13] <HymnToLife> almost everything is done through the net
[11:13] <doomnx> but at least i wanted to recover my files...
[11:13] <LaNCeloT_RW> !w32codecs
[11:13] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[11:13] <cox377> !ksmserver
[11:14] <ubotu> ksmserver: session manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 168 kB, installed size 428 kB
[11:14] <doomnx> but i like it very much as an OS :)
[11:14] <HymnToLife> you might like Debian, it is very similar to Ubuntu but has 20 CDs of apt-gettable pcakages
[11:14] <EmbraceUnity> Hello Admiral
[11:14] <cpk1> ... you dont need the net for ubuntu
[11:14] <LaNCeloT_RW> lontra, let me try..
[11:14] <LaNCeloT_RW> thanks
[11:14] <cpk1> and debian's packages are much older
[11:14] <cox377> !dcopserver
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcopserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <doomnx> in summer i will install internet connection and then... ;)
[11:14] <HymnToLife> cpk1, you don't seem to know what you're talking about...
[11:15] <explosives> hello ubuntu, hello ubuntu users this is my first day on linux ubuntu which one is better than tho other one ubuntu or windows ???
[11:15] <cox377> !kwrapper
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <HymnToLife> !offtopic | explosives
[11:15] <ubotu> explosives: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:15] <doomnx> well guys... thanks for all ur help
[11:16] <doomnx> u were amazing
[11:16] <lontra> HymnToLife: you don't need internet...it helps...but you certainly don't need it
[11:16] <Frost^> Can anyone tell me how to list the real content of an installed package?
[11:16] <lontra> Frost^: dpkg -L foo
[11:16] <doomnx> i can't remember any windows helpers like u
[11:16] <Frost^> For some reason dpkg -L is not working
[11:16] <Frost^> It lies :)
[11:16] <cox377> jhutchins: my swap memory doesnt seem to be used @ all, is this right?
[11:17] <cpk1> HymnToLife: which is? if doomnx can download packages from an internet cafe he should be able to make his own repo cds
[11:17] <Frost^> When I do dpkg -L kdebase, it gives only 7 files
[11:17] <Frost^> Which makes no sense to me.
[11:17] <jhutchins> cox377: Probably.
[11:17] <doomnx> the ubuntu community isn't a myth... it's true :) keep it alive guys
[11:17] <explosives> HymnToLife:  how can i install my graphic driver its name is NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9746-pkg1.run and it is on my desktop ?
[11:17] <HymnToLife> cpk1, have you actually tried it ?
[11:17] <doomnx> thanks again
[11:17] <lontra> HymnToLife: it's easy to set up a repos local
[11:17] <HymnToLife> explosives, you don't want to do that, use the one from the repos unless you have a good reason not to
[11:17] <HymnToLife> lontra, not for a newbie
[11:18] <lontra> HymnToLife: no but there is google
[11:18] <doomnx> where do the file .run have to be when i type the ./ command?
[11:18] <Frost^> lontra: Is there another way which I can check a package content with?
[11:18] <explosives> repos what is it ?
[11:19] <HymnToLife> doomnx, in he currend working dir
[11:19] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell explosives about nvidia | explosives, see the private message from ubotu.
[11:19] <doomnx> that is...?
[11:19] <jhutchins> cox377: Lessee, I've got 15 tabs in konversation, a one page kwrite, kmail with three connections and ~10,000 messages, 4 konsole sessions, 8 knoqueror windows (some with multiple tabs), and 9 widgets counting the clock, I'm into 131M of swap.
[11:19] <lontra> Frost^: i've always just used dpkg -L ... i'm not sure...you could try the man page...could it be that there really are only 7 files?
[11:19] <doomnx> it's at Home now
[11:19] <HymnToLife> doomnx, whichever dir you're currently in :)
[11:19] <HymnToLife> pwd will tell you
[11:19] <doomnx> and what i type again?
[11:19] <HymnToLife> but what's that .run file for anyway ?
[11:19] <cox377> jhutchins: lol point taken
[11:19] <cpk1> HymnToLife: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptMoveHowto seems pretty simple
[11:19] <doomnx> nvidia drivers
[11:20] <lontra> !nvidia
[11:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:20] <Gabor> I have a wireless problem
[11:20] <Gabor> can anyone support?
[11:20] <jhutchins> cox377: If you use the KDE programs, they share a lot of code and don't have to load seperate copies of it.
[11:20] <lontra> Gabor: what card?  what problem?
[11:20] <doomnx> omg i'm a pain in the @ss :(
[11:20] <HymnToLife> cpk1, 1st step, install apt-move, you need Universe
[11:21] <cpk1> also I would imagine just downloading .debs and throwing them in your cache would work
[11:21] <HymnToLife> it does
[11:21] <Gabor> Ralink RT2600 Connection Problem
[11:21] <doomnx> anyway thanks again
[11:21] <doomnx> goodnight guys
[11:21] <doomnx> (btw i managed to install my canon S100 printer easier than windowsxp :P)
[11:21] <Gabor> When using the connection manager it just hangs and then disconnects,
[11:21] <jhutchins> doomnx: Full path to the file or bash <path to file> or sudo if it requires root privilage.
[11:21] <HymnToLife> but downloading all the debs and moving, taking care of dependencies manually
[11:21] <HymnToLife> is a real pain
[11:21] <doomnx> usb printer*
[11:22] <jhutchins> doomnx:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html <= my best command line intro.
[11:22] <doomnx> ok i'm really late
[11:22] <doomnx> 00:22 here
[11:23] <jhutchins> Gabor: By the way, there really isn't any "support" here, we're just fellow users who made the same mistakes you did a little bit sooner.
[11:23] <LaNCeloT_RW> lontra, my ubuntu is an AMD64...i couldnt find a way to install w32codecs =/
[11:23] <doomnx> goodnight from greece and thanks for all
[11:23] <Lord_Flasheart> CVirus: I seem to have worked out how to do it now, the boot process stops just after 'Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [OK] 
[11:23] <Gabor> Well fellow users can be support to :=P
[11:23] <lontra> LaNCeloT_RW: ah...you'll need to set up a chroot if you want to play WMV
[11:23] <cpk1> doomnx: you know there is a greek channel right?
[11:23] <jhutchins> LaNCeloT_RW: Something about the 32 in w32.
[11:23] <Lord_Flasheart> CVirus: have you any ideas as to what could be causing the problem?
[11:23] <jhutchins> LaNCeloT_RW: What you need is the w64codecs - which don't exist yet.
[11:24] <LaNCeloT_RW> oh.. i'll try it later... =/
[11:24] <LaNCeloT_RW> damn wmv files
[11:24] <Kite_DH> i got a little question : in the folder "/usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/128x128/filesystems" (standard kubuntu iconset) are orange folders too, i want to activate them, but when i change filename the orange turns blue, lol, and when i rightclick a folder>preferences and change it there, only the folder i clicked is orange...but i want all to be
[11:24] <Kite_DH> can somebody help me?
[11:24] <jhutchins> LaNCeloT_RW: I know some people dual boot or chroot into a 32b installation for those.
[11:25] <jhutchins> Kite_DH: Are you using the crystalsvg theme?
[11:26] <LaNCeloT_RW> jhutchins, well... gotta go back for some minutes to my Windows HD
[11:26] <LaNCeloT_RW> see ya
[11:26] <LaNCeloT_RW> thanks anywat
[11:26] <LaNCeloT_RW> anyway*
[11:28] <Lord_Flasheart> hi, i am trying to install kubuntu on my new laptop. i have installed it from the text installer, and am unable to boot into the operating system - it stops after 'Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [OK] '. the specifications of the machine are: http://www.rockdirect.com/support/product_view.php?product_qa_id=144&size=min. does anyone have any idea what is wrong?
[11:31] <Kite_DH> jhutchins: yes i am
[11:31] <fjellrev1> Im trying to get dual monitors to work,but have a slight problem when trying to fix the resoultion though the nvidia x server settings : XRandR X extension was not found...Anyone ? ?
[11:32] <piro_> trying to go portrait?
[11:34] <makuseru> what do i need to burn mp3s in k3b?
[11:34] <linux_galore> is there a kde applet that allows you to have font themes, for example I have a laptop that is 1024x768 and an external wide screen monitor that 1650x1050, now I would like to have a "laptop" and "desktop" fonts setup that I can swap easily depending on what screen Im using, is there s simple fix for this
[11:35] <linux_galore> right now Im either looking at a nasty perl script or having two accounts or just editing the settings manually
[11:36] <linux_galore> having no simple way to change my fonts in kde is a pain
[11:36] <kristian_> hi there, i'm german - so sorry for my bad english... i want to install wine cvs under edgy but i havn't the packets: "x-window-system-dev" and "msttcorefonts", anybody knows where there are?
[11:37] <makuseru> !de | kristian
[11:37] <ubotu> kristian: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:37] <linux_galore> !msttcorefonts
[11:37] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[11:37] <kristian_> hum, sorry :)
[11:38] <sampan> makuseru  might be the libk3b2-mp3 package (the k3b mp3 decoder)?
[11:38] <makuseru> no prob
[11:38] <makuseru> thank you
[11:38] <Lord_Flasheart> what is the command to start kde from the prompt?
[11:38] <Lord_Flasheart> startkde?
[11:39] <jhutchins> makuseru: Shouldn't need anything special just to burn them though, they're just files as far as K3B's concerned.
[11:39] <jhutchins> Lord_Flasheart: Startx should default to kde.
[11:39] <jhutchins> Lord_Flasheart: that's lowercase actually, startx.
[11:40] <linux_galore> Lord_Flasheart:   /usr/bin/startkde
[11:40] <linux_galore> Lord_Flasheart: or just use startx
[11:40] <cpk1> or 'sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start' should do it too
[11:40] <gdiebel> is there a command line tool that will give the encoding type of a given text file?
[11:40] <Lord_Flasheart> hmm, it says 'fatal server error: no screens found'?
[11:40] <linux_galore> gdiebel: yes  file filename
[11:42] <Lord_Flasheart> 'no matching device section for instance found... screens found, but non have a usable configuration
[11:42] <linux_galore> Lord_Flasheart: do you have an xserver session running already
[11:42] <Lord_Flasheart> '
[11:42] <Lord_Flasheart> i don't think so, i just installed from the text based installer
[11:42] <Lord_Flasheart> although it did show the splash screen?
[11:43] <linux_galore> Lord_Flasheart: aah, basically X isnt setup or not setup properly
[11:43] <Lord_Flasheart> if i install 'kubuntu-desktop' will that work?
[11:43] <velle> Could someone tell me if the apt package "kubuntu-desktop" is installed by default? I dont know what this package does, I just know that it has status "iU" (= Desired status: Installed & Status: uninstalled) if I use dpkg. I do not know how it got like this, and also, I can not fix it. Is this bad?
[11:44] <linux_galore> Lord_Flasheart: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:44] <Lord_Flasheart> linux_galore: also, the x config file just has vesa as a driver, and not nv / nvidia, but i am not sure whether it will work with that as it is geforce go 7950 gtx sli?
[11:45] <linux_galore> Lord_Flasheart: run the setup program ^^
[11:45] <velle> When I tried to install the package "libgtk2.0-dev" I get an error because it can not find "kubuntu-desktop"
[11:45] <cpk1> Lord_Flasheart: vesa will work with anything =P
[11:45] <Lord_Flasheart> linux-galore: no x server known for your video hardware?
[11:46] <frojnd> !games
[11:46] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[11:46] <linux_galore> Lord_Flasheart: have you installed the nvidia driver
[11:46] <linux_galore> !nvidia
[11:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:48] <Lord_Flasheart> linux-galore: no, but i am not sure whether that driver yet supports my card. i tried installing it yesterday, and it didn't seem to work?
[11:48] <damaltor> ich gre euch
[11:49] <Lord_Flasheart> linux-galore: also i don't think feisty liked the nvidia kernel?
[11:49] <damaltor> sagt mal
[11:49] <damaltor> hat irgend jemand erfahrung mot compiz?
[11:49] <damaltor> oh =) sry
[11:49] <damaltor> anyone had some success with compiz?
[11:49] <Lord_Flasheart> linux-galore: i think that the 7950 is similar to the 7900 though, just faster?
[11:50] <cpk1> 7950 is 2 gpu's
[11:50] <Frost^> Is there a way to fully reinstall a metapackage?
[11:50] <cpk1> thats what i thought
[11:50] <Lord_Flasheart> linux-galore: if i select 'nv' can i select the 7900 driver somehow?
[11:51] <cpk1> Frost^: sudo aptitude reinstall nameofmetapackage?
[11:51] <Frost^> It only reinstalls the metapackage
[11:51] <Frost^> And in essence, reinstalls nothing
[11:52] <cpk1> then aptitude purge nameofmetapackage? that will completely wipe everything i would think
[11:53] <bulletxt> hi, my kcontrol icons have disappeared after an update to kde 3.5.6, can someone tell me help me ?
[11:54] <cpk1> i'm kind of dissapointed with aptitude that it cant figure out reinstall metapackage
[11:55] <Frost^> Well, a metapackage is pretty much a hack as far as I can tell.
[11:56] <Frost^> Isn't it a blank package which simply depends on everything it installs?
[11:56] <cpk1> aptitude is pretty smart though
[11:57] <frojnd> what's the difference between "aptutude" and "apt-get" ?
[11:57] <conn> hi, has anyone here tried installing kubuntu feisty herd 4?
[11:58] <Frost^> There's something broken about my kde, I think. Java simply doesn't work in konqueror, and I get an error in the console saying "Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.kde.kjas.server.KJASSecurityManager not found"
[11:58] <cpk1> aptitude "remembers" what you do among other things
[11:58] <Frost^> Now I've no idea what I should reinstall in order to fix it, but it's somewhere in kdelibs, or at least it should be.
[11:58] <Frost^> But I can't reinstall the damn thing...
[11:59] <DonMCN> Hey can you guys tell me how to make Kubuntu more efficient and not take up as much ram and CPU? Like by turning off certain effects and things?
[11:59] <cpk1> for instance, with aptitude if you uninstalled a bunch of stuff with it and didnt purge them and now wish you had purged them you could do aptitude purge ~C and it would purge all uninstalled packages (ones that were uninstalled with aptitude only though)
[12:00] <cpk1> you really only get the full use out of aptitude if you solely use aptitude
[12:01] <DonMCN> !requirements
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <DonMCN> !system
[12:01] <matsavhalev> cpk1: why is that?
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <cpk1> because aptitude doesnt keep track of what other apt front-ends do
[12:01] <BluesKaj> DonMCN, don't be fooled by the memory usage in ubuntu , most of it cached ; hence it only looks like i's being used up
[12:02] <DonMCN> no my computer is running much slower than it was with windows xp
[12:02] <Frost^> So I guess reinstalling a metapackage is impossible in my case?
[12:02] <DonMCN> Once I switched from Windows XP, my computer and the programs run much slower.
[12:02] <cpk1> Frost^: you try purging it?
[12:02] <frojnd> DonMCN: si your swap running?
[12:02] <Frost^> I'm scared..
[12:02] <DonMCN> To tell you the truth I have no idea. I'm a big new with Kubuntu.
[12:03] <frojnd> DonMCN: top in terminal
[12:03] <cpk1> purging and then installing is almost the same as reinstalling
[12:03] <DonMCN> Top in terminal?
[12:03] <cpk1> you could just try to uninstall it and then install it
[12:03] <matsavhalev> cpk1: is that a bug or a feature?
[12:03] <frojnd> DonMCN: write "top" in konzole
[12:03] <cpk1> matsavhalev: huh?
[12:03] <DonMCN> ok
[12:04] <Frost^> cpk1: kdelibs is a meta package, and is used by other metapackages..
[12:04] <frojnd> and there it should be
[12:04] <frojnd> Mem:    515888k total,   509572k used,     6316k free,    10572k buffers
[12:04] <frojnd> Swap:  1004020k total,    18928k used,   985092k free,   183176k cached
[12:04] <Frost^> so I just got rid of a few metapackages
[12:04] <DonMCN> What do I look for?
[12:04] <frojnd> I just paste it
[12:04] <DonMCN> ok
[12:04] <frojnd> 4 lines above
[12:04] <matsavhalev> cpk1: that it doesnt keep track of other frontends
[12:04] <frojnd> u cancle this with: "q"
[12:05] <fairman> Hi, does anybody some experience with XvidCap?
[12:05] <DonMCN> it doesnt look exactly like that, it has different numbers but it appears swap is being used
[12:05] <cpk1> I imagine it doesnt keep track of the other ones because that would be difficult to do
[12:05] <frojnd> DonMCN how many swap
[12:06] <frojnd> DonMCN: how much*
[12:06] <DonMCN> Swap:  1124508k total,    26120k used,  1098388k free,   183948k cached
[12:06] <cpk1> 26mB? you are fine
[12:06] <frojnd> hm
[12:06] <cpk1> that means you arent digging into the swap
[12:06] <DonMCN> but Kubuntu runs slowly
[12:06] <frojnd> DonMCN: have u tryed to install driveres
[12:07] <DonMCN> much slower than Windows XP
[12:07] <cpk1> you will know when it starts to use swap
[12:07] <DonMCN> I update Kubuntu and everything
[12:07] <Frost^> cpk1: In short, purging didn't help.
[12:07] <DonMCN> and my sound works, graphics and everything else i need to work but slowly
[12:08] <en1gma> can someone in here give me some guidance on amd-64 edgy and my nforce4 mb with an nvidia geforce 8800 gtx? i cant get it to work at all with the live dvd (even safe graphics mode wont boot)
[12:08] <en1gma> can i extract the edgy iso file and insert my own driver somehow
[12:08] <en1gma> and then reburn the dvd
[12:09] <bulletxt> does it get stuck before loading kdm?
[12:09] <cpk1> Frost^: you try reinstalling kdelibs-data and kdelibs4c2a since thats all kdelibs depends on
[12:09] <en1gma> it used to get stuck with dapper (not in safe graphics mode) now with edgy i just get stuck in console
[12:10] <en1gma> well not stuck
[12:10] <cpk1> en1gma: iirc the safe graphics mode doesnt actually force vesa is why
[12:10] <Frost^> Shall I use the purge and reinstall trick again?
[12:10] <en1gma> cpk1 do you know if i can take apart the edgy iso and insert my own driver somehow
[12:10] <cpk1> ideally you would want  to use reinstall to (hopefully) keep your configs, unless you dont want the configs
[12:10] <en1gma> im not installing
[12:10] <en1gma> just running the live dvd
[12:11] <bulletxt> enigma, try disabling acpi from boot
[12:11] <DonMCN> so what can I do to speed up Kubuntu? is that a way I can turn off effects and such and the pretty looks of Kubuntu to instead receive power
[12:11] <bulletxt> acpi=off
[12:11] <cpk1> en1gma: ok, but you might want to double check that it is actually forcing vesa
[12:11] <en1gma> how do i do that