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| yonkeltron | so...i've been thinking of getting the thinkpad t60, are things supported well enough? | 01:57 |
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| yonkeltron | i understand many devs and the SABDFL have thinkpads.... | 01:57 |
| yonkeltron | so i'm guessing it's all good | 01:57 |
| yonkeltron | just wanted to check with the experts... | 01:59 |
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| thmo | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_6.04_Flight_5_on_a_ThinkPad_T60 | 02:19 |
| thmo | with a older version | 02:19 |
| thmo | probably fixed some of the issues | 02:19 |
| thmo | http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_7.04_%28Feisty_Fawn%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T60 | 02:20 |
| thmo | the newest one :) | 02:20 |
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| Garre1 | Would anyone here like to know how to enable two fingered scrolling? | 02:21 |
| yonkeltron | ah | 02:24 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: sure | 02:24 |
| Garre1 | I have a lot to tell ya then | 02:25 |
| Garre1 | Do you have a synaptic touchpad? | 02:25 |
| yonkeltron | yes | 02:25 |
| yonkeltron | thmo: apropos, i'm wondering if i should wait for the next t>60 in the T series to be released.... | 02:26 |
| thmo | no idea :) | 02:26 |
| thmo | i just googled it :P | 02:26 |
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| Garre1 | DO you use gsynaptic? | 02:27 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: kubuntu actually | 02:27 |
| Garre1 | ohh | 02:27 |
| yonkeltron | thmo: thanks.., :-) | 02:27 |
| thmo | Garre1: from what i can read on posts in the forum, people are having quite a few problems with synaptic and trackbacking | 02:28 |
| thmo | for some it works, and others it dosen't | 02:28 |
| yonkeltron | trackbacking? | 02:28 |
| Garre1 | thmo what do you mean by trackbacking? | 02:28 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: but my synaptic tp has a scroll bar on the side...works fine | 02:31 |
| Garre1 | Well this is just if you want to use two fingered scrolling like the macs do I know how to | 02:32 |
| thmo | a fancier word for two finger scrolling | 02:32 |
| Garre1 | Ahhh | 02:32 |
| yonkeltron | ok....cool | 02:32 |
| Garre1 | Well mine seems to work just fine | 02:32 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: i'd like to see the mechanism although i'm cool with my sidescrollbar | 02:32 |
| Garre1 | As far as I know I'm the only one who's done it on a regular pc | 02:33 |
| thmo | should have been s/trackbacking/trackpadding/ | 02:33 |
| Garre1 | Well I just installed gsynaptic and made it start up automatically at startup | 02:33 |
| yonkeltron | makes much more sense | 02:33 |
| thmo | mac named the touchpad trackpad | 02:33 |
| thmo | yeah ;) | 02:33 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: would ksynaptic work? | 02:33 |
| thmo | it's late and stuff | 02:33 |
| Garre1 | and then I edited a scrpt in xorg | 02:34 |
| Garre1 | I would think so | 02:34 |
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| Garre1 | just a sec | 02:34 |
| Garre1 | Are you good with editing xorg? | 02:35 |
| yonkeltron | as good as emacs is... | 02:35 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: http://qsynaptics.sourceforge.net/ss.html | 02:36 |
| Garre1 | Well mine works very well I use it day to day | 02:36 |
| Garre1 | So you have done this? | 02:36 |
| Garre1 | Haha I did it the hard way with gsynaptics instead of that? | 02:37 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: haven't messed with it...a bit afraid to break a working thing...but i think i'll install it | 02:38 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: there are some very good KDE tools.... | 02:38 |
| Garre1 | I know I was thinking about switching | 02:39 |
| Garre1 | How do you like it? | 02:39 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: kde? | 02:39 |
| Garre1 | I was thinking about going with KDE, yes | 02:43 |
| Garre1 | I'm in GNOME now and I think it's ok but I want more customization | 02:44 |
| Garre1 | yonkeltron, is it better for customization? | 02:49 |
| yonkeltron | yes | 02:52 |
| yonkeltron | by far | 02:52 |
| Garre1 | Can and it has better programs right? | 02:52 |
| Garre1 | I love Katapult | 02:53 |
| yonkeltron | i also think that KDE is a superior interface with a better general design and superior characteristics | 02:53 |
| yonkeltron | hehe | 02:53 |
| yonkeltron | it's not everything | 02:53 |
| yonkeltron | but it's nice | 02:53 |
| yonkeltron | it's nice | 02:53 |
| yonkeltron | furthermore, KDE 4 will be amazing | 02:53 |
| yonkeltron | um | 02:54 |
| Garre1 | So you use Kubuntu? | 02:54 |
| yonkeltron | yes | 02:54 |
| yonkeltron | so does the SABDFL | 02:54 |
| Garre1 | Does it have as much support as Ubuntu? | 02:56 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: different. | 02:56 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: don't forget that for, at least, the first release was put together by one person | 02:56 |
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| yonkeltron | Garre1: johnathan riddell was able to, on his own, put together something that at worst equaled and at best exceeding the efforts of a full team of paid gnome developers | 02:57 |
| yonkeltron | KDE is much easier to hack on and, imho, is of greater technical merit | 02:57 |
| yonkeltron | that being said, it, like any other piece of software, does have it's issues | 02:58 |
| yonkeltron | s/it's/its | 02:58 |
| yonkeltron | or | 02:58 |
| yonkeltron | rather | 02:58 |
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| yonkeltron | anyway, i find KDE to be a little bit nicer to my sensibilities as a user for many reasons | 02:59 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: it's not for everyone and it's not perfect....i couldn't imagine using much else | 02:59 |
| Garre1 | Cool | 03:02 |
| Garre1 | I just want something like ubuntu but that has more for customization | 03:02 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: i imagine you can customize gnome well enough if you try | 03:02 |
| Garre1 | I have gotten more into the technical end of ubuntu but there are limits | 03:03 |
| Garre1 | There are limited good-looking themes | 03:03 |
| yonkeltron | well, under the hood, they are the same | 03:03 |
| yonkeltron | the only difference is the UI | 03:03 |
| Garre1 | Really? | 03:03 |
| yonkeltron | pretty much | 03:04 |
| Garre1 | I see on my live cd that there is some little bit of eye candy | 03:04 |
| Garre1 | Is that most of it? | 03:04 |
| yonkeltron | the only difference, afaik, is that ubuntu uses gnome and kubuntu uses kde | 03:04 |
| yonkeltron | so effectively, they are the same under the hood....the only difference is the desktop | 03:04 |
| Garre1 | Ahh | 03:05 |
| Garre1 | Have you ever looked at GNOME-look? | 03:05 |
| Garre1 | the web site? | 03:06 |
| yonkeltron | not in depth | 03:06 |
| Garre1 | Well I have looked at both the KDE one and GNOME and I see much more on the KDE side | 03:06 |
| Garre1 | The thing that holds me back is support | 03:06 |
| Garre1 | I just want the same support as ubuntu | 03:07 |
| yonkeltron | wiki.kubuntu.org | 03:07 |
| yonkeltron | and also, there is an F1 key | 03:07 |
| yonkeltron | works very well | 03:07 |
| Garre1 | yonkeltron: is Kubuntu 7.04 set to release at the same time as Ubuntu 7.04? | 03:09 |
| yonkeltron | yes | 03:09 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: all releases are coordinated | 03:10 |
| yonkeltron | Garre1: perhaps this conversation would best be had elsewhere.....given the topic | 03:10 |
| Garre1 | Where? | 03:11 |
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| yonkeltron | don't know | 03:12 |
| yonkeltron | not functioning very well | 03:13 |
| Garre1 | Sorry | 03:13 |
| yonkeltron | me too | 03:14 |
| Garre1 | Need sleep? | 03:17 |
| yonkeltron | i'm unsure | 03:20 |
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| pwnguin | is the laptop debugging info conf'd in the ubuntu kernel? | 05:40 |
| pwnguin | my toshiba's not suspending and im not sure where it's broke at | 05:41 |
| pwnguin | it sounded like there was some nvram trick | 05:51 |
| mjg59 | It's in the feisty kernel | 05:53 |
| mjg59 | You need to echo 1 >/sys/power/trace (I think - it's called something like that) | 05:53 |
| pwnguin | cool | 05:53 |
| pwnguin | also, is there a good way to get apt / dpkg to restore the acpi file configurations? i may have touched them | 05:54 |
| pwnguin | previously i was hoping i could get suspend to work with nvidia's ulgy binary drivers, but its probably better to start small | 05:54 |
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| pwnguin | im not finding anything interesting in dmesg | 06:09 |
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| pwnguin | do i need to pass a kernel parameter? | 06:09 |
| mjg59 | No | 06:10 |
| pwnguin | where should i be looking for those logs at? | 06:18 |
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| no0tic | hi, what is this channel for? | 11:48 |
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