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poningrugnomefreak: I have time today to learn the packaging12:36
poningruare you available today?12:36
Admiral_Chicagoponingru: i don't think John will be available...but I don't speak for him12:37
poningruI am gonna package todays ff12:38
poningruhopefully...12:38
poningruk thanks12:39
Admiral_Chicagoponingru: maybe alexander can help when he gets back12:40
Admiral_Chicagobtw, did you get the email John sent out?12:40
poningrummm dont think so12:42
poningruholy shite I am not subscribed12:42
gnomefreaki will be here in and out but mainly until i leave i will be working on crashreports to clean them up. poningru packaing a new version of ff will need to be merged before package can be built merging is  a bitch if you have never done it. I think i have once.12:49
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asachi all11:45
gnomefreakhi12:12
asachey still here12:12
asacthought you will leave?12:12
gnomefreaknext week tues/wed12:12
gnomefreakwhats with tags on bug 6323012:14
UbugtuMalone bug 63230 in firefox "firefox crash after opening totem in a tab" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6323012:14
asaclet me see12:17
asacyes ... messy .. as usual mt-needretrace mt-needsummary i would say12:18
asacgnomefreak: what do you think about team council, goverance and stuff like that? ... i must admit that I share the concerns of AlexLatchford ... at least a bit.12:20
gnomefreaki didnt read email yet12:20
asacah ok12:21
gnomefreaki havent seen alexs concerns i will in a bit12:21
gnomefreakdo you think there are enough retraces on this bug? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/45008 while you look ill check email :)12:30
UbugtuMalone bug 45008 in firefox "Firefox Crashes on Saving Files  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [Medium,Confirmed] 12:30
asacbug 4339312:30
UbugtuMalone bug 43393 in firefox "Doesn't show thai language correctly" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4339312:30
asacgnomefreak: .... yeah ... lets close this bug12:30
gnomefreak45008?12:31
asace.g. summary update: [CLOSED]  ... and in description DON'T POST ANY MORE CRASEHS HERE12:31
asac:)12:31
gnomefreakhas it been fixed?12:31
asacnot closed as in fixed :)12:31
gnomefreakah12:31
asacclosed as in Thread-Locked :)12:31
asachow many reports are untraced?12:31
asacin there?12:32
gnomefreak2 or so but cant do them due to no coredump12:32
gnomefreakshould i add this all to summary. keep whats there and add [CLOSED]  in summary and that at beginning of desciption add dont post....12:33
asacyes please12:33
asacand don't bother about the non-coredump crashers12:34
gnomefreakk12:34
gnomefreakits done :) just waiting for page to reload12:34
gnomefreakpull all tags off?12:34
gnomefreaki added mt-confirm for the ones i just did on that bug.12:35
asacyes12:46
asacthats good12:46
asacgnomefreak: before you leave, can you please post some brief words on what -dbg packages to install and what apport-retrace command to run in order to do the retrace as you are doing?01:23
asaci am thinking about writing a script to semi-automate this stuff01:23
gnomefreakyes01:23
asaci think it will take time until martin will come up with something automatic01:23
gnomefreakwell he needs to update feisty and edgy repos badly :(01:24
asache won't01:24
asache has no time atm.01:25
asachowever, nothing official01:25
asacjust my own experience tells me that this will take time to work out01:25
gnomefreakoh im sure01:26
asacjust a few words, what packages to install to get somehow good results and how to run which version of apport-retrace01:26
asacwe have to pull in feisty version for processing edgy reports, right?01:27
gnomefreakyes01:27
gnomefreakim using 0.50 but any version should work01:28
gnomefreaki will update my apport to newest feisty and see if it works as good01:28
asacokok .. superb01:28
gnomefreaki will send commands and packages out to mailing list sometime this week. im trying to get most cleaned up before next week01:29
gnomefreakdown to like 32 of them for ff01:29
asac32 reports untraced?01:30
gnomefreakyep from 54 i think it was01:32
gnomefreakgot most of feistys done i left a few for 64bit01:32
=== asac wonders how much new crash reports we get day by day :)
gnomefreakalot01:34
gnomefreakbut im almost done with the high priority retraces :)01:35
asacBug 6122901:52
UbugtuMalone bug 61229 in thunderbird-locales "Please provide missing locale (lt) for Thunderbird" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6122901:52
gnomefreakemail is being sent02:08
asacabout gvernance et al? or what?02:08
gnomefreakasac: i worked on that but you might want to take it.02:08
gnomefreakthat too02:08
gnomefreaki sent that one and the retrace one02:08
gnomefreaki also gave examples on the retrace one02:09
asacwill take a look in a minute ... you sent to ml?02:16
gnomefreakasac: you might want to take bug 61229 i havent had a chance to look at it too much i couldnt find wher eto put the .xpi but i think you said in enigmail but havent gotten to far on that. as for the patch you wanted me to try and apply i used the path in each section of the patch but kept telling me no file found i will have to take a few daays of steady working on that (its not as easy as it seems) output i got (if of any help i02:17
UbugtuMalone bug 61229 in thunderbird-locales "Please provide missing locale (lt) for Thunderbird" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6122902:17
gnomefreakyes i sent it to ML02:17
asacgnomefreak: your message above has been truncated somehow02:20
asacthunderbird-locales ... apt-get source thunderbird-locales02:20
asacthen look where the .xpi are in there02:20
gnomefreakoh than rebuild the locals02:20
gnomefreaki just grabbed source mozilla-thunderbird  :(02:21
asacdrop it there ... extend debian/control ... then take a look at debian/rules if all .xpis are manually listed there somewhere ...02:21
asachehe02:21
asacno its a package on its own02:21
asacthunderbird-locales is your candidate :)02:21
gnomefreakah no wonder why i couldnt find them02:21
gnomefreaki will try it again little later today02:22
asacnp ... take your time ... the task is getting bigger though: we need to replace all .xpi files :) because we want official branding and .xpis currently included are stripped ... maybe do that first :) just replace all .xpi ... and build a new orig.tar.gz from that.02:23
asacthen if that is done, we can add -lt02:23
asac:)02:23
gnomefreakk02:23
asacgnomefreak: good ... (retraces) ... for feisty we don't need to download reports?02:32
asacits done automagically?02:32
gnomefreaknope02:32
gnomefreakjust the bug #02:32
gnomefreak:)02:32
gnomefreakit takes longer to do than edgys02:33
asacso no download?02:33
asaci will try :)02:33
gnomefreaknot for feisty02:33
asachttps://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/8656202:33
UbugtuMalone bug 86562 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall() on close" [High,Needs info] 02:33
asacthat one?02:33
asacshould work02:34
asaclets try :)02:34
gnomefreakasac: the problem you will see with feistys is alot of conflicting package versions and you cant downgrade to them using apt02:34
asaclets see02:34
asacwhat happens if there are more than one crash reports attached?02:36
gnomefreakasac: i dont know truthfully i would ask seb or martin about that. i havent had one with more than one report yet02:37
asachmmm we need an sources.list line for the -dbgsym repo?02:37
asacok02:37
gnomefreakseb started me on feistys reports and i came up with other options to use02:37
gnomefreakyes i think you do (i do)02:37
asachmmm ... you have the lines?02:37
asaci would like to add them to the mail02:38
gnomefreakfeisty or edgy?02:38
gnomefreakwell same just replace the dist.02:38
gnomefreakdeb http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs feisty main restricted universe multiverse02:39
gnomefreakchange feisty to edgy for edgy02:39
=== asac taking a 64bit report now to try :)
gnomefreakand you know about adding: danielhollocher's retrace.02:39
gnomefreakhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/48772/comments/202:39
UbugtuMalone bug 48772 in firefox "Firefox randomly crashes" [Medium,Needs info] 02:39
gnomefreakwhen more than one report02:39
gnomefreakoops forgot to add assign it back to team and change tags02:40
gnomefreakand -v is important to use so you know what is going on once you get comfortable with it IMHO02:45
gnomefreakgrrr02:53
gnomefreakcant do bug 6323002:53
UbugtuMalone bug 63230 in firefox "firefox crash after opening totem in a tab" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6323002:53
asacgnomefreak: ok ... but i can retrace as user ... or do i need to be root to install -dbgsym packages et al?02:54
gnomefreakuser02:54
asacfine02:54
asacgnomefreak: yes thats fine ... in fact I think that we should add a boilerplate text for lots of cases ... in this case we should apologize a bit that we didn't process bug earlier :)02:56
asac<-- about bug 6323002:56
UbugtuMalone bug 63230 in firefox "firefox crash after opening totem in a tab" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6323002:56
gnomefreakok02:57
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gnomefreakk let me know how retrace goes03:02
asacretraces look good03:41
asacthough I still don't see why they look different when -dbg package installed vs. not installed03:42
gnomefreakmaybe the -dbg packages are still used incase the -dbgsym packages cant be found? i dont know that much about apport but it would help to know03:47
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asacyeah ... probably03:50
gnomefreakasac: did you send totem fix to seb128? or are we waiting for something?05:02
asacmeeting :)05:03
asacwill do05:03
asacafter05:03
gnomefreakah ok05:03
asacwhat was master bug?05:03
gnomefreakill get it in a few minutes as soon as retrace is done. retrace likes to lock me up05:04
gnomefreakbug 8626505:07
UbugtuMalone bug 86265 in firefox "[apport]  firefox crash [@totemScriptablePlugin::~totemScriptablePlugin] " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8626505:07
gnomefreakthat would be it05:07
gnomefreaklol only 1 problem with that topic in the meeting X isnt fully merged and is breaking beryl05:17
asacok05:59
asacnext week i will have some topics i guess :)05:59
asacgnomefreak: ... how can i add another package to a bug in lp? ... i am lost somehow ... or blind or whatever06:00
asacalso affects distribution?06:01
asacgues thats it ... ubuntu06:01
asacok ... done06:08
gnomefreakyep that is it06:10
gnomefreaksorry was getting ready to leave06:10
asacnp06:13
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asacok ... cu then06:13
asactake care06:14
asac!06:14
gnomefreakdamn i hate amarok08:04
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak: blasphmy08:06
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: cant listen to music and retrace at same time08:06
gnomefreakgod forbid i might beablet o multitask08:06
Admiral_Chicagoreally? that's probably a bug in there08:06
gnomefreakits in apport if i had to guess or its just the way apport works08:07
Admiral_Chicagoyes.08:07
gnomefreakwtf is wrong with apport :(08:20
Admiral_Chicagoi could take apart apport and look it up but i have to studp right now08:22
gnomefreakasac: you around?08:24
Admiral_Chicagostuy* bbl08:25
gnomefreakapport is failing to upload coredumps (atleast one bug so far that i found) <feisty>08:25
gnomefreakstudy08:25
gnomefreak:)08:25
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asacgnomefreak: heh?09:07
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AlexLatchfordbug 8471610:59
UbugtuMalone bug 84716 in firefox "firefox crashes, screen divides after applying orca screen reader" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8471610:59
AlexLatchfordhmm, take a look at the Activity Log10:59
AlexLatchfordsays asac has commented, but it isn't showing for me10:59
gnomefreaklooking11:02
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: you feel like chairing the next meeting?11:02
AlexLatchfordyeah sure11:02
gnomefreaki might be there but i doubt it11:02
gnomefreaki dont see any comment from him11:03
AlexLatchfordtake a look in the activity log11:03
gnomefreakhe might have changed something than changed it back11:03
gnomefreakwhere is it11:03
AlexLatchfordhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/84716/+activity11:03
UbugtuMalone bug 84716 in firefox "firefox crashes, screen divides after applying orca screen reader" [High,Needs info] 11:03
gnomefreaknvm found it11:03
AlexLatchfordsee the comment there?11:03
gnomefreakyeah11:04
AlexLatchfordinteresting11:04
AlexLatchfordIll file a Malone bug11:04
gnomefreakmaybe it didnt take but the importance took (Lp is messed up anyway. notice your karma hasnt changed in a week11:05
AlexLatchfordyeah, ill file it anyway11:05
AlexLatchfordkeep the team on its toes11:05
gnomefreak:)11:05
AlexLatchfordmeh, think they have a few similar, think ill leave it11:06
asacso is that the only maybe accessibility report we have?11:28
asacactivity is broken?11:28
asacAlexLatchford: can you please use pgp/mime to sign your messages? mutt just hates inline signatures :/11:35
AlexLatchfordyeah sure11:36
AlexLatchfordill make the changes later11:36
asacAlexLatchford: have you seen other comments disappear?11:41
asacor just mine?11:41
AlexLatchfordjust that 1 thus far11:41
asachmm ... what is the lp bug ... you already filed?11:41
AlexLatchfordnah I didn't bother, there seems to be several around the same issue if you search11:42
asacok11:42
gnomefreakhas anyone figured out how to get time stamp in gnome-terminal :(11:54
gnomefreakits been on my to do list since breezy and i still havent figured it out11:55
AlexLatchfordthere is a timer if you precede the command with time11:57
AlexLatchfordso.. 'time ls'11:57
AlexLatchfordbut I dunno about timestamps11:57
AlexLatchford'time cat'11:57
AlexLatchfordis a funny command11:57
AlexLatchfordhit Ctrl+D to stop the timer11:57
AlexLatchford(time cat is a stopwatch)11:57
AlexLatchfordokay sleep time I think12:01
AlexLatchfordnight12:01
asacgnomefreak: depends  on what shell you use12:06
asacif bash12:06
asacedit .bashrc12:06
gnomefreakyeah bash12:06
asacPS1 variabe12:06
asacvariable12:06
asacsee man bash12:06
asacsearch for PS112:07
gnomefreakk12:07
asacthen play around by12:07
asace.g. test12:08
asacexport PS1='\T'12:09
asac:)12:09
asacmaybe: export PS1='\T@\h$ '12:09
asacfor me export PS1='\T@\h:\W$ ' would work a bit12:11
gnomefreak:) ty12:14
asacponingru: you are a painter?12:15
gnomefreak06:15:27@FeistyFawn:~$  does that look right?12:15
gnomefreaki guess it drops username for time because of length12:16
asacno12:18
asacuser name is not included in template12:18
asacman bash12:18
asacsearch for PS1 a few times12:18
asacthere is a table what means what12:18
asaccurrently I don't have it anymore ... still need to migrate my bashrc from my old box ... if that is done, I can tell what i have :)12:19
asacbut google PS1 bash12:20
asacthere should be plenty of common usages12:20
gnomefreakah ok ty12:20

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