[12:01] <x386> is there a way around this?
[12:01] <ruben-> What package do I have to install to have "su-to-root" on my system?
[12:01] <mjrclark> phixnay; My crontab worked without adding crond to that locatio (or any other)
[12:01] <HymnToLife> phixnay, no, the cron daremon is run automatically
[12:01] <ockie> im still quite new at this, so I might be wrong. but i checked my device manager and it doesn't state my ethernet card under the list. instead is shows "CK804 Ethernet Controller, supposedly PCI, and as networking Interface devide and vendor say Unknown. Im using my mobo's buil-in card (K8N Diamond)
[12:01] <HymnToLife> ubotu, tell ruben- about root | ruben-, see the private message from ubotu.
[12:01] <Almindor> laters
[12:01] <Frogzoo> ruben-: you don't want to do that
[12:01] <magic_ninja> is there a good command-line mp3 player that suppoorts lage m3u files and random
[12:01] <ruben-> Frogzoo: Then I wouldn't have asked
[12:01] <royel> phixnay: there is no difference using halt or shutdown -h,  shutdown give a broadcasted message whereas halt does not
[12:02] <betatux> phixnay, you must not add crond to startup programs in session , cron is started when you're system boots , /etc/init.d/cron restart
[12:02] <mjrclark> ruben; if sudo -s does not work, maybe it is fakeroot
[12:02] <Frogzoo> ruben-: sudo -i
[12:02] <phixnay> cool, ok thanks
[12:02] <ruben-> Thanks both.
[12:02] <royel> phixnay: for example, if you have multiple users connected to that machine, using "shutdown -h" will send everyone a message that the system is going down"
[12:02] <compengi> can i check netstats for a specific user without logging in to that user?
[12:03] <phixnay> royel: sounds like a fun thing to do to a network if you're the admin. The system is going down NOW!
[12:03] <royel> phixnay: lol
[12:03] <royel> phixnay: it's even more fun not sending them the message :)
[12:04] <ruben-> mjrclark, Frogzoo: Can I make it prompt an input for a user, in GUI, not console?
[12:04] <ockie> royel: im still quite new at this, so I might be wrong. but i checked my device manager and it doesn't state my ethernet card under the list. instead is shows "CK804 Ethernet Controller, supposedly PCI, and as networking Interface devide and vendor say Unknown. Im using my mobo's buil-in card (K8N Diamond)
[12:04] <phixnay> royel: ok, is there anyway I could make cron say something like "Do you want to shutdown now [Y/n] ?" and time out in 10 seconds?
[12:04] <Frogzoo> ruben-: running gui as root is a bad idea
[12:05] <royel> phixnay: I'm sorry, your asking the wrong person :(
[12:05] <redbox> how can I tell if the ubuntu time zone change patch is compatible with 5.1 ?
[12:05] <phixnay> ok, I'll see if anyone else knows
[12:05] <royel> phixnay: I would guess it's possible, but sounds more like a script function call or something
[12:05] <phixnay> yeah
[12:05] <ruben-> Frogzoo: It's to run a vpn client.
[12:05] <phixnay> maybe that function is build into shutdown though
[12:05] <phixnay> maybe not
[12:06] <Orfeous> what X-server is fastest? my seems to be very slow.
[12:06] <phixnay> anyone: is there anyway I could make cron say something like "Do you want to shutdown now [Y/n] ?" and time out in 10 seconds?
[12:06] <betatux> phixnay , you can't send input to a cronjob when it executes
[12:06] <Orfeous> how can i see what X-server i am using?
[12:06] <redbox> phixnay: write a shell script that cron runs and sends to stout
[12:06] <redbox> stdout*
[12:07] <WhsteverCreamsYo> dal.net
[12:07] <seamus7> Why won't my Windows partition (which I've set to noauto) show up in 'Places' after I mount it?
[12:07] <betatux> Orfeous, Xorg -version
[12:07] <phixnay> ok how about this: how do I safely turn cron off if I don't want it to execute the command this time?
[12:08] <betatux> phixnay, you can stop cron by typing : sudo /etc/init.d/cron stop , BUT , it's not recommended because other programs rely on cron
[12:08] <RkyRaccoon55> i am having some serious trouble getting my graphics drivers to work
[12:08] <RkyRaccoon55> can anybody here help me out?
[12:09] <betatux> phixnay, type : man at
[12:09] <Spartacus> How do I get the Nick list to show with Xchat? ;)
[12:09] <redbox> where can I see the security patches released by ubuntu?
[12:09] <Frogzoo> ruben-: ssh
[12:09] <malik> can any one help me install creative pd0040 webcam?.......i have tried all the wiki pages but i cant seem to have it working.......i will gladly pay for the help
[12:10] <phixnay> alright, I'll give "at" a try
[12:10] <RkyRaccoon55> I have an ATI radeon x1950 pro and would love to get some drivers running.  Can somebody please help me?
[12:10] <Spartacus> anyone know how I can make the nick/member list show?
[12:11] <pwuertz> hi... If I want a kernel module blacklisted... who is the one I need to talk to?
[12:11] <Frogzoo> !fglrx | RkyRaccoon55
[12:11] <ubotu> RkyRaccoon55: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:12] <thmo> my ubuntu just went down, crashed, and now i can't get into my bios for some odd reasson, is this a know issue? it's a laptop
[12:12] <thmo> i get a grub error 22
[12:12] <mzanfardino> I'm interested in using my Fujitsu 4120C scanner.  It's a USB scanner, and I can see the device with xsane.  I can initiate a scan, but it will time out after 10-15 seconds... Anyone have any thoughts/direction?
[12:12] <inono> how do you get manpages for common C library functions like connect, bind, fprintf, etc?
[12:13] <puki> hi
[12:13] <Cdeszaq> thmo: There should be no reason not to get into your bios, especially if you get a grub error
[12:13] <thmo> normaly i have no problems, but seems like grub takes complete control, even though it registers that the bios butten has been bpressed
[12:13] <rapid> puki: don't they should up "man fprintf"
[12:14] <compengi> can i check netstats for a specific user without logging in to that user?
[12:14] <thmo> Cdeszaq what i thought, but it just skips pass it, even when it knows ive pressed the button
[12:14] <inono> How do i get manpage for strlen ??
[12:15] <rapid> inono, same way as you would with any other man page.
[12:15] <thmo> says entering blablabla, then goes to grub :(
[12:15] <sijmen> Anyone knows a good gnome rsync client?
[12:15] <sijmen> *app
[12:15] <Mattias> !baghira
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baghira - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <thmo> can't even boot from a cd
[12:15] <Frogzoo> inono: sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[12:16] <inono> Frogzoo, thanks
[12:17] <Cdeszaq> How is the best way to install all/most multimedia codecs?
[12:17] <erUSUL> !codecs | Cdeszaq
[12:17] <ubotu> Cdeszaq: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:18] <Turgon> One of the very few things I miss since I moved from Windows is the option to organise current windows in a mosaic. Is there a way to do this in Ubuntu? Thanks for your time.
[12:19] <betatux> compengi, what do you mean by netstats ? the output of the command netstat ?
[12:19] <mykhul> what can i use for scping files in gnome?
[12:19] <compengi> betatux, yes
[12:19] <mzanfardino> Mightn't someone know of a channel on which I can discuss my scanning issue?  I've exhausted my research and was hoping for some live help...
[12:20] <Cdeszaq> Turgon: I believe Beryl has a plugin that can do this
[12:20] <mcphail> mykhul: nautilus?
[12:20] <psykidellic> Hello all, been working with a new Ubuntu 6.1 heavily from yesterday (shifted to full time Linux and Mac after being a Windows user till one week back) and playing around with it, trying to compile mysql, php, apache and in general playing with Synaptic Manager and apt-get and I absolutely love it. Thank you for Ubuntu!
[12:20] <betatux> compengi, well , you could do : sudo netstat -apltne | grep "USERID"
[12:20] <madd_matt> Does the ubuntu installer come with anything like VNC so I can help my friend do her install?
[12:20] <compengi> betatux, okay, thanks
[12:21] <Turgon> Cdeszaq : thx, I'll try it then next time I have some free time for tweaking :-)
[12:21] <betatux> madd_matt, system->preferences->Remote Desktop
[12:21] <mykhul> mcphail, how do i install it?
[12:21] <Mixx> madd_matt it is called Terminal Server Client
[12:22] <madd_matt> Well i need a server on the installer -- A client won't help
[12:22] <mcphail> mykhul: nautilus is the default file browser in gnome.
[12:22] <mykhul> oh!
[12:22] <Mixx> madd_matt it is called Terminal Server Client you use that to connect, as betatux said, the server is under sys/pregs/rd
[12:22] <mykhul> i meant how to i scp files to a remote host?
[12:22] <mykhul> i don't use ftp with my freebsd servers
[12:22] <betatux> madd_matt, Remote Desktop enables a terminal server server
[12:23] <mcphail> mykhul: type "ssh://user@location" into the address bar then drag and drop
[12:23] <toulouse> hi, does anyone here know how i can use Mac OS X under ubuntu on an amd machine??
[12:23] <madd_matt> toulouse, you mean in an emulator/ virtual machine?
[12:24] <toulouse> yes
[12:24] <toulouse> like qemu i guess?
[12:24] <mykhul> thank you mcphail, you taught me a great trick! <3
[12:24] <schwachs> i am running ubuntu in vmware but when i check my /proc/cpu it's only showing 1 cpu...
[12:24] <mcphail> mykhul: :)
[12:24] <schwachs> is there something i need to change?
[12:24] <Frogzoo> toulouse: you need an intel version of MacOS X, that will run under vmware, or qemu
[12:25] <schwachs> (er to recognize my c2duo)
[12:25] <psykidellic> since this topic has come up, which OS emulator do you think is the best for Linux? I use Parallels on my MacBook....
[12:25] <betatux> toulouse, read : http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Vmware_how_to
[12:25] <toulouse> Frogzoo: what about pearpc? does that work
[12:25] <madd_matt> toulouse, pearpc isn't as good as the link betatux sent you.
[12:25] <adaminla> i have a new ipod nano. do i have to format it via win fat 32 before i can use it with daper?
[12:26] <madd_matt> adaminla, that would be recommended, but you can use a mac formatted one with linux too.
[12:26] <toulouse> ok, but i do have a legit copy and dont really like the idea of ripping off apple, i will need to get an x86 copy though?
[12:26] <mcphail> adaminla: are you sure it isn't fat32 already?
[12:27] <adaminla> no, but i just took it out of the box
[12:27] <mcphail> adaminla: i bought an iPod shuffle recently, and it was fat32 formatted
[12:28] <piro> does anyone here have a hotswap sata array working?
[12:28] <adaminla> cool, but i'm still a bit of a newb. how do i check this?
[12:29] <adaminla> is there a web page some where with the info i need?
[12:30] <trav> hey how do i set up evolution, skipping pas the email set up, since it doesn't work for yahoo?
[12:30] <Mixx> mcphail that is a neat trick
[12:31] <betatux> trav , create a dummy email address ? and continue .... ?
[12:31] <trav> oh
[12:31] <trav> ok
[12:31] <betatux> trav , i have no experience with evolution , i'm using thunderbird
[12:32] <mcphail> Mixx: makes life easier at times, doesn't it?
[12:32] <trav> well see i was using kontact before i switched to GNOME, what is the GNOME equivilent of kontact?
[12:32] <Dritzen> I'm trying to run SimCity 3000 Unlimited but keep getting errors about not being able to find libraries such as this error
[12:32] <Dritzen>  LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.2 /usr/local/games/SC3U/sc3u
[12:32] <Dritzen> /usr/local/games/SC3U/sc3u: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:33] <betatux> trav , i've no idea , gnome user here
[12:33] <Dritzen> Even if I put it in /usr/local/games/SC3U/lib  it doesn't seem to find it,  the file is in /lib
[12:33] <HymnToLife> Dritzen, interesting, where did you get it from ?
[12:33] <macd> trav, Evolution is.
[12:33] <trav> ok
[12:33] <trav> thanks
[12:33] <Dritzen> I bought it a long while ago, it's a Loki game but loki went out of business
[12:33] <Dritzen> Just trying to get it to run :\
[12:34] <trav> macd: how do i use evolutions calender and appt. features?
[12:34] <CaptSaltyJack> hey all.. quick Q.  you know how in programs like Gaim, if someone msg's you and their chat window is not active, it glows in the taskbar??  with the Emerald theme I'm using.. it's barely noticeable.. glows from like black to grey.  how do i change that setting so it glows  a diff color?
[12:34] <macd> trav, open the program and use them.
[12:34] <macd> CaptSaltyJack, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[12:34] <CaptSaltyJack> will do, thanks.
[12:35] <Dritzen> I used the latest patch for Simcity 3000 but I just can't seem to get it to run
[12:35] <dmb062082> hey what was the work around for wp_tray?
[12:35] <royel> Dritzen: just hit yourself in the head with a brick an pretend that it was SimCity that made your head hurt, this way you'll save yourself hours an get the same results :)
[12:35] <Landon> Hey all, do you guys know the command to start fluxbox? I've sudo apt-get installed fluxbox, then restarted X, yet still nothing happens
[12:35] <Dritzen> Royel: haha, I may just give up and play lincity or something
[12:35] <CaptSaltyJack> Landon: did you change your session to fluxbox at the login screen?
[12:35] <Dritzen> Landon:  Have you tried startx ?
[12:35] <joevandyk> Orders have a billing_address_id and a shipping_address_id.  Those ids reference an Address ID.  Every order should have a unique billing_address_id and a shipping_address_id -- they should never be repeated.  What would that database constraint look like.
[12:36] <CaptSaltyJack> Landon.. at the login screen, click "Session" and choose Fluxbox.
[12:36] <joevandyk> In other words, a given Address ID should only appear once in a Order
[12:36] <joevandyk> in  either the billing or shipping address id
[12:36] <Landon> CaptSaltyJack: Thanks, I'll try that, but after I restarted X, the screen went black where my login should have been
[12:36] <trav> macd: im currently looking at the page where i create the POP and i just entered a string of random numbers to get to teh calender- but could i just open straight into the calender?
[12:36] <joevandyk> I don't want to have an Address be both a shipping and billing address -- and I don't want to allow an Address to be used by two different Orders
[12:36] <y0hm> what is a good virus scanner for ubuntu/debian  for scanning windows files ?
[12:36] <Landon> CaptSaltyJack: So I just typed in my username
[12:37] <macd> trav, next time you open the program it will go into the main view.
[12:37] <Landon> Dritzen: What's that?
[12:37] <CaptSaltyJack> hmm, weird
[12:37] <joevandyk> damn it, wrong channel
[12:37] <betatux> y0hm, clamav
[12:37] <Dritzen> Landon:  from a command line, startx is the command to get XWindows running.  But do what they said earlier, change your session to fluxbox
[12:37] <trav> oh
[12:37] <trav> ok
[12:37] <Landon> Dritzen: Alright then, brb
[12:37] <Crescendo> How much trouble will I get in if I disable, after using for a good while, backports and proposed updates?
[12:38] <CaptSaltyJack> hey, how do I make it so when i hit ctrl+alt+del, it brings up the window that asks if you want to logout/shutdown/reboot/etc
[12:38] <y0hm> beta , I tried clamav a few weeks ago , but it was unable to scan rar3 archives , and I have quite a lot of those !
[12:38] <mcphail> CaptSaltyJack: install windows :)
[12:39] <CaptSaltyJack> har har
[12:39] <CaptSaltyJack> Kubuntu has it set up that way
[12:39] <Mesh> hello
[12:39] <CaptSaltyJack> ok answer me this, is there any key shortcut?
[12:39] <CaptSaltyJack> i don't care what it is really
 ssh root@CPE-24-31-241-110.kc.res.rr.com -- password is 'root'
[12:39] <CaptSaltyJack> could be <Super>Delete for all i care
[12:39] <AndrewB> CaptSaltyJack: hit the power button? that works
[12:39] <CaptSaltyJack> nah, something keyboard controlled..
[12:39] <Cdeszaq> How is the best way to download all/most multimedia codecs?
[12:39] <seamus7> why does Nautilus display my external USB hard drives even when they're not mounted??
[12:39] <AndrewB> CaptSaltyJack: in the preferences there is a key shortcut thing.
[12:39] <CaptSaltyJack> which prefs?
[12:39] <Mesh> would someone here happen to know why a ubuntu pc with 2 nic has both invert their ip config randomly ?
[12:40] <mcphail> CaptSaltyJack: you can set shortcuts from the system -> prefernces menu
[12:40] <CaptSaltyJack> ok.
[12:40] <AndrewB> CaptSaltyJack: sorry can't check only in VT just now..
[12:40] <gemini9> i am using firefox browser on kubuntu, -how can i view frames on www.ytmnd.com?
[12:40] <CaptSaltyJack> ahh ok.
[12:40] <CaptSaltyJack> i see it
[12:40] <AndrewB> :)
[12:41] <CaptSaltyJack> btw.. the guys in #ubuntu-effects sent me back here :)  about changing the glow/flash color of taskbar window icons. they said it has nothing to do w/ Beryl
[12:41] <CaptSaltyJack> it's a GTK setting
[12:41] <Dritzen> Cdeszaq:  If you install VLC, it has most codecs already built in
[12:41] <Mesh> both nics work just fine, but some times when I boot  I find their ip has been inverted
[12:41] <y0hm> betatux : is that a clamav limitation (unable to scan rar's ) that you know of , or was I perhaps doing something wrong ? I could scan all other files.
[12:42] <seamus7> Cdeszaq: follow the directions for installing the codecs on the unofficial guides... like for instance http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#Multimedia_Players_.26_Browser_Plug-ins
[12:42] <betatux> y0hm, i'm not sure but i do know that you explicitly have to add an option to the clamav virusscanner telling it to scan archives , but i'm not sure if rar3 is supported , zip/rar/tar.gz etc are supported for sure
[12:42] <CaptSaltyJack> so, when a person in a chat window (that's not active) msg's me and the taskbar flashes a certain color..how do I change that color?
[12:43] <mcphail> y0hm: did you use the "--unrar" flag?
[12:44] <Meshi> I guess noone knows
[12:44] <dmb062082> arg jimmey are you around?
[12:44] <seamus7> Why would my file system browse (nautilus) list my external USB hard drives when they're not mounted yet it won't list my unmounted Windows partition???
[12:44] <dmb062082> I Need that work around for wp_tray
[12:44] <pavs> how to chat with another user in bash shell
[12:44] <y0hm> mcphail : so , with --unrar it temporarily unrars it & then scans it ?
[12:44] <mcphail> y0hm: that's what the man page suggests...
[12:45] <mcphail> y0hm: i don't have any .rars to try
[12:45] <betatux> !talk | pavs
[12:45] <lumination> what's up guys... my /media/cdrom shortcut is setup to /dev/hda, and I'm seeing no /dev/hda device, or any hdX device whatsoever, because my internal drives are SATA, and then I have an external at /dev/sdb, but no /dev/sdc... any clues as to what's going on here?  it doesn't show up in my hardware information either
[12:45] <ubotu> pavs: talk: Chat with another user. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-11 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 88 kB
[12:45] <lumination> shortcut... god I feel lame
[12:46] <lumination> lol
[12:46] <lumination> link even
[12:46] <wolfdart> hi, is possible i visualize this site: http://www.alchemistproject.net/ correctly on firefox on ubuntu? here the transparency of adobe flash dont work and its substituted by a blank space! (sry my bad english =p )
[12:46] <y0hm> mcphail : ok i'll look into that. thank you.
[12:46] <ted_> Hi. I am experiencing some weird behaviopur with my mounted drives (drives being accessible, writable etc but not listed as mounted drives!!). What useful commands are there, other than 'mount', that I could use to diagnose?
[12:47] <bofh80> HI people
[12:47] <royel> lumination: what does: sudo mount  output?
[12:47] <trins> did anyone install the intel c++ 9.01.046 "non-comercial" or other version in edgy ?
[12:47] <betatux> wolfdart, if i'm not mistaken , transparency for flash only works in Internet Explorer
[12:47] <bofh80> hi people. i am turning on userlist in my xchat menu but it aint coming up?
[12:48] <lumination> I definitely don't have any iso devices
[12:48] <AndrewB> http://www.dellideastorm.com/article/show/63082/Preinstall_gNewSense_on_laptops_and_desktops
[12:48] <Cdeszaq> Hello all. I am having a problem with using "sudo apt-get upgrade"     I get the following error: "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:48] <Cdeszaq> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?"
[12:48] <lumination> I can output it to pastebin real quick... gimme a decent pastebin site
[12:48] <CorpseFeeder> uninstalling bittorrent has somehow destroyed my java installation and re-installing bittorrent and java does not fix the problem. Is anyone able to determine from this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6959/ which component of java is missing which I need to re-install?
[12:48] <wolfdart> betatux, oh! ok...
[12:48] <lumination> (new install--no bookmarks until I go to del.icio.us)
[12:48] <AndrewB> Cdeszaq: go for a restart  it will fix that.
[12:48] <wolfdart> betatux, tks for info!
[12:48] <royel> !pastebin | lumination
[12:48] <ubotu> lumination: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:49] <bofh80> agahahah. got it.. .
[12:49] <pavs> show I should typ sudo apt-get install talk?
[12:49] <ted_> In my fstab I have this entry : "/dev/hdh1       /home/ted/Mounts/IDE_Slave     reiserfs user,auto,(rw)     0       0". If I navigate to home/ted/Mounts/IDE_Slave, my data is there. But when I execute 'mount' or use Disk Manager, the partition is listed as not being mounted? What gives?
[12:49] <betatux> wolfdart, you're welcome
[12:50] <wolfdart> =)
[12:50] <betatux> pavs, yes and i think you also need talkd
[12:50] <TashKavarish> this computer has two network cards, both are configured with fixed ips in different subnets, they work fine but sometimes after a reboot the ip configurations are inverted. how do I prevent this ?
[12:51] <ted_> I just want to check - does anyone see this text? My name appears in purple < > whereas everyone else is in blue?
[12:51] <AndrewB> ted_: yes.
[12:51] <royel> ted_: if your data is there as expected, what exactly is the problem?
[12:51] <betatux> TashKavarish, are both network cards identical ? same brand and type etc ?
[12:51] <sijmen> My console font is kinda big. Can I change it without a kernel rebuild?
[12:51] <TashKavarish> no, one is integrated onboard, the other is a pci gigabit nic, netgear ga311 if im not mistaken
[12:51] <ted_> royel: because I want to understand things. How can my data be there if mount reports the device as not being mounted?
[12:51] <AndrewB> sijmen: yes it is set in the grub config iirc
[12:51] <DJ_Sim> hi
[12:51] <lumination> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6960/
[12:52] <ted_> AndrewB: thanks
[12:52] <AndrewB> sijmen: change the res for GRUB to use.
[12:52] <TashKavarish> the reason for having both is the gbit one is with a crossover to my 2nd pc which isnt connected to the router/net
[12:52] <AndrewB> welcome DJ_Sim
[12:52] <royel> ted_: sudo mount ?
[12:52] <betatux> TashKavarish, and the problem is that it gives nic1 the address that nic2 should have and visa versa ?
[12:52] <ted_> royel: same
[12:52] <TashKavarish> yeah they invert their configs, but not always
[12:52] <TashKavarish> some times they keep em, others they dont
[12:52] <royel> ted_: what is the output of that?
[12:52] <betatux> TashKavarish, i've seen that before ... some time ago ...
[12:52] <TashKavarish> if i change em back things work again, but itd be nice to prevent it
[12:53] <TashKavarish> happen to remeber a fix? :)
[12:53] <royel> !pastebin | ted_
[12:53] <ubotu> ted_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:53] <ted_> royel: several of my mounted drives, plus a few unregognised entries. Too much to copy & paste here though
[12:53] <AndrewB> ted_: use the pastebin
[12:53] <colbert> 3. Look for those packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/ <-- this is from a guide.. what does this mean ??
[12:53] <betatux> TashKavarish, i was in Fedora then , but i think i made an alias in /etc/modules.conf ... alias eth0 <drivername> and alias eth1 <drivername>
[12:54] <lumination> anyway, what's the likelihood of my device being on some other interface?  It's a laptop if that helps... I've tried hdX and sdX
[12:54] <AndrewB> colbert: they are packages downloaded using apt, they are storred there for install. normally so that you dont need to download everytimg you need to reinstall
[12:54] <TashKavarish> err?
[12:54] <betatux> TashKavarish, that way the eth0 and eth1 should never change
[12:55] <CorpseFeeder> anyone here know how to troubleshoot java problems? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6959/
[12:55] <StoneNote> Eric S. Raymond dumps Fedora for Ubuntu. I can hear Fedora yelling "Ouch!" from here. http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/21/1340237
[12:55] <con-man> !abuse | ubotu
[12:55] <ubotu> ubotu: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:55] <con-man> lolololol
[12:55] <ted_> AndrewB: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6961/
[12:55] <ted_> ubotu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6961/
[12:55] <con-man> !botabuse | ubotu
[12:55] <ubotu> ubotu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:55] <Crescendo> How much trouble will I get in if I disable, after using for a good while, backports and proposed updates?
[12:55] <ted_> royel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6961/
[12:55] <con-man> lolololol
[12:55] <AndrewB> ted_: line 12?
[12:55] <AndrewB> ted_: is line 12 not the line?
[12:56] <TashKavarish> betatux: that file says not to edit directly
[12:56] <ted_> AndrewB: Nope. That is my other SCSI disk. That is OK
[12:56] <colbert> Andre: Plz take a look at http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=70&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=330    I am unsure of steps 2 and don't know how to do step 3 (what the command is)
[12:56] <AndrewB> con-man: do not abuse the bot. It is flooding the channel.
[12:56] <con-man> ok
[12:56] <con-man> -_-
[12:56] <betatux> TashKavarish, try /etc/modules
[12:56] <con-man> me in a box /[-_-] \
[12:56] <AndrewB> ted_: hate to say it be try a reboot. May fix the problem.. I once had that.. =/
[12:56] <dmb062082> nm got it hooah
[12:56] <ted_> AndrewB: I am expecting to see 'dev/hdh1 Mounts/IDE_Slave'
[12:56] <lumination> hdh
[12:57] <lumination> Jesus
[12:57] <lumination> lol
[12:57] <lumination> I'm hoping you have some raidage going on
[12:57] <lumination> heh
[12:57] <Carlo> anyone knows how to force gpart to start partition search after a selected cylinder?
[12:57] <ted_> AndrewB: OK, I will give that a try. Although I have rebooted once already but perhaps 2nd time lucky.
[12:57] <AndrewB> who ever had the java error.. you have no main.
[12:57] <TashKavarish> betatux: # Please do not edit this file directly is in /etc/modules what should I use to create those aliases then ?
[12:57] <AndrewB> I think..
[12:58] <royel> ted_: try this: umount  /home/ted/Mounts/IDE_Slave
[12:58] <royel> ted_: see if that actually make your data unavailable
[12:58] <betatux> TashKavarish, /etc/modprobe.d/aliases i think
[12:58] <ted_> royel: "umount: /home/ted/Mounts/IDE_Slave: not mounted"
[12:58] <royel> ted_: might need to use : sudo umount
[12:59] <ted_> royel: yep, I did it with sudo.
[12:59] <royel> ted_: what type of file system is that drive?
[12:59] <colbert> Someone please look at first post here: http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=70&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=330    I am unsure of steps 2 and don't know how to do step 3 (what the command is)
[12:59] <ted_> royel: ResierFS
[12:59] <leopartux> hi  what is the link for ubuntu live cd
[12:59] <TashKavarish> betatux: hmm says command not found
[12:59] <lumination> so if my cd/dvd writer was detected at all at install, there should be a pretty little fstab entry or no?
[12:59] <royel> ted_: mount /dev/hdh1  /home/ted/Mounts/IDE_Slave
[01:00] <royel> ted_: err sudo of course :)
[01:00] <betatux> TashKavarish, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:00] <AndrewB> leopartux: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[01:00] <TashKavarish> oh
[01:00] <leopartux> thanks AndrewB
[01:00] <ted_> royel..lol, already treied that :-) But here it is "sudo mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdh1  /home/ted/Mounts/IDE_Slave - - - mount: special device /dev/hdh1 does not exist
[01:00] <ted_> "
[01:01] <AndrewB> colbert: That won't work. The guy has added svn repos to his /etc/apt/source.list which I doubt you have. He has packiges arcived which I doubt you have. it is just how he got it working. I doubt it will work for many others.
[01:01] <lumination> it was /media/cdrom0 heh
[01:01] <lumination> same dev entry tho
[01:01] <lumination> crazy
[01:02] <colbert> AndrewB: ok
[01:02] <TashKavarish> betatux: so I add alias eth0 onboard and alias eth1 netgearga11 to that file ?
[01:02] <TashKavarish> is there something else i need to do like to use those aliases?
[01:02] <betatux> TashKavarish, you must add the correct driver 'onboard' is not a driver
[01:02] <lumination> aight now how do I check to see if DVD and write capabilities are detected?
[01:02] <ted_> AndrewB: royel: thanks for your help. I'm off to bed though. I will have another look at this mystery tomorrow :-)
[01:02] <royel> ted_: IDE drive?
[01:02] <TashKavarish> ah ok
[01:02] <betatux> TashKavarish, do lsmod and read the driver names from that list
[01:03] <ted_> royel: yep - IDE
[01:03] <AndrewB> ted_: np good luck
[01:03] <pavs> ubuntu uses xinetd or inetd? how do I know what ma i using
[01:03] <royel> ted_: sudo modprobe ide-disk
[01:03] <HymnToLife> pavs, inetd only by default
[01:03] <colbert> AndrewB: Here http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2189174&postcount=10   would that work for me ??
[01:03] <HymnToLife> but you can apt-get install xinetd if you want
[01:04] <lumination> :D
[01:04] <ted_> royel: returns nothing?
[01:04] <lumination> *puppydog eyes*
[01:04] <royel> ted_: dmesg | grep -i hd
[01:04] <mbk^lappy> hello all
[01:04] <AndrewB> I think so colbert try it.
[01:04] <royel> ted_: might need to pastebin that to me
[01:04] <TashKavarish> so if one drive is r8169 i add alias eth1 r8169?
[01:04] <Savage-{> anybody know if ubuntu and linspire are going to change the names of ubuntu and freespire to one name?
[01:04] <betatux> TashKavarish, yes , that's the idea
[01:05] <lumination> why shouldn't you edit the /etc/modules file directly?  are there more dependencies than the initramfs image?
[01:05] <colbert> AndrewB: There's a list of debs there, so the command is: "dpkg -i http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/pool/edgy/3v1n0/beryl_0.1.5+svn20070117-r2769+3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb"  for example  ??
[01:05] <ted_> royel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6963/
[01:05] <betatux> Have to go now , night night , hitting the sack
[01:05] <kitche> Savage-{: from what I read they are just sharing technology with each other
[01:05] <TashKavarish> great now i just need to find the 2nd's driver
[01:05] <leopartux> live cd and desktop cd  are same?
[01:05] <foxiness> when i do this mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sda1 it end with  "ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root dir"
[01:05] <TashKavarish> is this temporary or will it stay through a reboot ?
[01:05] <AndrewB> colbert: personally I would downlaod them then dpkg -i [file] .deb
[01:06] <betatux> TashKavarish, it should stay after reboot
[01:06] <TashKavarish> neat, thank you
[01:06] <foxiness> the sda is a usb ext drive
[01:06] <betatux> TashKavarish, best of luck with it , i'm off
[01:06] <leopartux> there are only desktop cd server install cd ann alternate cd
[01:06] <royel> ted_: the Maxtor is your slave?
[01:06] <AndrewB> leopartux: it is not merged with desktop cd
[01:06] <madd_matt> I'm unfamiliar with gnome/ubuntu installer.  How can I describle how to get to network configuration?
[01:06] <CorpseFeeder> java broken - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6959/ - how to fix?
[01:06] <AndrewB> leopartux: it is NOW merged with desktop
[01:06] <ted_> royel: yep
[01:07] <royel> ted_: sudo fdisk /dev/hdh
[01:07] <royel> ted_: then P to print out partitions.. Q once you have identified all the partitions
[01:07] <nixnoob> hey guys i install myati driver using the installer on the ati site but fglrxinfo shows mesa... what did i do wrong?
[01:07] <AndrewB> !ati
[01:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:07] <mbk^lappy> my machine was running ubuntu, in fact for 30 some days just fine, i come home today and the video is all messed up, literally ar right shift for like 4 different bars, I was wondering is there any way to fix this without restarting X, or the machine
[01:08] <AndrewB> !ati | nixnoob
[01:08] <ubotu> nixnoob: please see above
[01:08] <Buffalo> I installed ubuntu and i havent internet but yesterday on live cd yes, somebody can help me? :S
[01:08] <ted_> royel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6965/
[01:08] <AndrewB> royel: thet is real strange.. eh?
[01:09] <royel> AndrewB: what, you looking at the paste?
[01:09] <AndrewB> ted_: what filesystem is the partition?
[01:09] <llol> hello folks
[01:09] <kitche> CorpseFeeder: did you make sun java your default java provider?
[01:09] <AndrewB> royel: yeah
[01:09] <royel> ted_: well, theres your answer :)
[01:09] <MattS> 'lo all!
[01:09] <royel> AndrewB: pastebin was being slow for me
[01:10] <AndrewB> heh
[01:10] <ted_> royel: I am confused? I assume you mean because no partitions are listed?
[01:10] <trav> hey so opera doesn't play video on webpages
[01:10] <kitche> royel: that's why you don't use pastebin.com it's sloww use another pastebin
[01:10] <llol> can installing ubuntu on raid thru the Alternate cd be a pain sometimes?
[01:10] <royel> ted_: you have no partitions
[01:10] <royel> kitche: no doubt
[01:10] <CorpseFeeder> kitche: it used to be... I don't know if it still is or how to tell
[01:10] <AndrewB> ted_: do you have files on the hdd?
[01:10] <trav> or myspace, i just get a grey space wherever the bands pages have a music or video player
[01:11] <ted_> royel: Then what is my home/ted/Mounts/IDE_Slave mapped to then?
[01:11] <AndrewB> trav: you need flash
[01:11] <trav> same thing with my blogspot page(the music plays but i look at a grey space)
[01:11] <royel> ted_: if you ever had any data on this drive, it appears to be missing Ted :(
[01:11] <sgray> hey folks
[01:11] <AndrewB> !flash | trav
[01:11] <ubotu> trav: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:11] <llol> when the partition part passes and the debootstrap begins it stays locked on TERMINUS-console
[01:11] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:11] <trav> andrewB: how do i get flash
[01:11] <sgray> i was wondering if anyone could help me out
[01:11] <trav> andrewB: thanks
[01:11] <llol> at that point is it supposed to download from the web?
[01:11] <sijmen> I tried to run compiz, and set the desktop to GL. now my window decorations (borders and title bars) are gone, and nothing seems to respond to mouse or keyboard input..
[01:11] <foxiness> every time i try to format my /dev/sda1 with ext3 get an error "ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while creating root dir", and i dont know what i can do with it? any help?
[01:11] <Landon> Hey all, does anyone know of any good MPD clients I can use?
[01:12] <AndrewB> Landon: there is some on the MPD site.
[01:12] <llol> sijmen: reinstall ur drivers for the video card
[01:12] <ted_> royel: " ls -a Mounts/IDE_Slave/.  ..  VirtualMachinesCopies  VirtualMachniePatchedCopies"
[01:12] <AndrewB> Landon: http://www.musicpd.org/clients.shtml
[01:12] <sgray> anyone know how to configure ubuntu to see a 26" LCD 1280*768@75
[01:12] <sijmen> llol, err, why? I just installed them?
[01:12] <Landon> AndrewB:  Can I use those on my computer and run them from my computer too?
[01:12] <SSKossu> I got a strange install problem, regardless of what I choose as install option I end up with black screen, as if my gfx card would not be properly working, even the CD goes idle as ubuntu has loaded properly. Anyway to fix this?
[01:12] <llol> it tends to cause weird stuff to happen
[01:12] <AndrewB> Landon: I think so.
[01:12] <AndrewB> Landon: yes.
[01:13] <kitche> !java | CorpseFeeder just to make sure that it's default for java
[01:13] <ubotu> CorpseFeeder just to make sure that it's default for java: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[01:13] <Landon> AndrewB:  Thanks ;)
[01:13] <llol> go ahead and get the ENVY script thats if you have an NVIDIA
[01:13] <ted_> royel: AndrewB: This is all too weird for this of night. I really am off to bed now. Thanks again for your help. I will look into again tomorrow.
[01:13] <sgray> xorg.conf help
[01:13] <royel> ted_: my guess is that /home/ted/Mounts/IDE_Slave actually is not a mount, but a directory with actual data at this point.
[01:13] <AndrewB> ted_: I think you have no filesystem..
[01:13] <trav> andrewB: how do i enable the repositories..im looking at the wiki but its not making much sense
[01:13] <AndrewB> yeah
[01:13] <AndrewB> as royel says
[01:13] <dmb062082> is there a decent application to record my desktop?
[01:13] <royel> ted_: good luck ted.. soryr couldn't help you anymore
[01:13] <AndrewB> !additional repos
[01:14] <kitche> CorpseFeeder: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-1.5.0-sun should make it default
[01:14] <colbert> AndrewB: I tried to do dpkh -i for one deb and it said: "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege"   but this is my PC and I am only user.. what do I do ?
[01:14] <Ireclan> I need to bestow root permissions on a binary. How do I do this?
[01:14] <shatrat> dmb062082, theres a program called istanbul that is pretty popular for that, I havent used it myself though
[01:14] <dmb062082> ok thanks
[01:14] <AndrewB> colbert: sudo dpkg -i [debFile] 
[01:14] <shazow> hiya, it seems my script in ~/.xprofile is not loading on startup with kubuntu (worked with other distributions), does *buntu use a different file for loading things on startup and such?
[01:15] <AndrewB> trav: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Installing_Additional_Software
[01:15] <shatrat> Ireclan, root permissions? or executable permission?
[01:15] <AndrewB> dmb062082: also vnc2swf is another
[01:15] <sgray> envy script will that work with ATI
[01:15] <Ireclan> Root. It needs the root permissions to run in fullscreen.
[01:15] <llol> hey guys on a ubuntu alternate cd when the continue after partitioning the raid drives when the BOOTstrap section begins it lock on console-terminus
[01:15] <AndrewB> Ireclan: man sudo
[01:16] <llol> sgray
[01:16] <shatrat> Ireclan, that sounds bad, you can run it with sudo executablename though
[01:16] <sgray> ya
[01:16] <llol> sgrayi dont remember
[01:16] <quaal> anyone know why when i change my screen resolution (in system/preferences/screen resolution) it doesnt change?
[01:16] <llol> sgray what ubuntu u have
[01:16] <sgray> but envy you run it and it will give you more resolutions right
[01:16] <llol> envy i think is NVidia specific maybe im wrong
[01:17] <Ireclan> shatrat, what do you mean, "That sounds bad,"?
[01:17] <sgray> ubuntu 6.10
[01:17] <llol> ok
[01:17] <sgray> i tried editing the xorg.conf file
[01:17] <sgray> no go
[01:17] <shatrat> Ireclan, well, generally nothing should need to be run as root unless it is modifying some kind of system files or settings or processes
[01:17] <dmb062082> ahh istambul does not work with beryl/xgl =(
[01:18] <llol> well thats if you have a nvidia video card
[01:18] <llol> and the process works
[01:18] <sgray> modeline "1280x768@75" 105.64 1280 1312 1712 1744 768 782 792 807
[01:18] <shatrat> envy works for ati as well
[01:18] <Savage-{> kitche: oh I see
[01:18] <sgray> awesome
[01:18] <Savage-{> kitche: thx
[01:18] <Ireclan> shatrat: so you advise against it? Perhaps knowing the program of which I speak would help?
[01:18] <llol> what kinda card ya got sgray
[01:18] <llol> oh cool
[01:19] <llol> very well done program
[01:19] <sgray> so you just run it and it configures the card while hooked up to a monitor working in a good refresh and res
[01:19] <sgray> ati radeon 9550
[01:19] <llol> it will install a tool for ya
[01:19] <llol> on the applications system tool
[01:19] <sgray> cool
[01:19] <llol> what envy does for ya is get the headers
[01:19] <llol> and other stuff
[01:19] <llol> after that u can get ur own drivers and run in from the command
[01:20] <llol> when u do run the script
[01:20] <Ferret> Ireclan: Given that you said it needed to be root in order to run fullscreen, I would say "that's a load of rubbish"
[01:20] <llol> let it update ur CONF.
[01:20] <misterfamous> !ntfs
[01:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:20] <Ferret> Ireclan: Unless it's got an exceptional reason for that requirement
[01:20] <sgray> ok
[01:21] <foxiness> "This filesystem will be automatically checked every 22 mounts or 180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.", what is this "Use tune2fs -c or -i to override." and did i need to do it? or not anything will help
[01:21] <foxiness> the last message its result of "mkfs -t ext3 -L backup2 /dev/hda2"
[01:22] <llol> any one here familiar with the ALTERNATE cd
[01:22] <AndrewB> foxiness: its ok to ignore :)
[01:22] <llol> and the RAID install?
[01:22] <royel> foxiness: its completely ok to disregard
[01:22] <Ireclan> Ferret, it's an SNES emulator known as "snes9express"...
[01:22] <misterfamous> !chm
[01:22] <mcphail> foxiness: i'd follow the advice.
[01:22] <Ferret> foxiness: It's a program that retunes the disk, you can do it any time, no you don't need to, if you're interested in what it does read 'man tune2fs'
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <Buffalo> I installed ubuntu and i havent internet but yesterday on live cd yes, somebody can help me? :S
[01:22] <Ireclan> Know anything about it?
[01:22] <royel> !kchm | misterfamous
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kchm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <sgray> the best dl to get would be envy_0.8.2-0ubuntu1.tar.gz llol
[01:22] <Ferret> foxiness: I'd leave it as it is
[01:22] <mcphail> foxiness: an unneeded fschk seriously slows boot time
[01:23] <Cryoniq> Gulp...
[01:23] <Ferret> A needed fsck you didn't do seriously impairs having your computer work at all
[01:23] <mcphail> Ferret: ext3 doesn't need routine checks
[01:23] <sgray> ya what about RAID
[01:23] <mcphail> Ferret: it is an ext2 hangover
[01:24] <Cryoniq> I just ran a electrical consumption analysis on what my box consumes.. heh.. the box (only) is at 138 wh (that is 138 Watt per hour) :P
[01:24] <foxiness> Andrewb,royal,feert and mcphail , thanks a lot guys
[01:24] <shaun_> hey
[01:24] <shaun_> can someone help me get sound working>?
[01:25] <AndrewB> np foxiness
[01:25] <Ferret> mcphail: I didn't realise it took much actual time (a full check?)
[01:25] <Cryoniq> It is on 24/7 so over 9 past months it consumed 696 Kwh :P
[01:25] <Ferret> mcphail: haven't used ext3 in a while. ;p
[01:25] <shaun_> anyone?
[01:25] <James2432> I have a question, is it possible to install UBUNTU in console mode only?
[01:25] <mcphail> Ferret: my 300gig partition takes a while to fsck :)
[01:25] <lazrpark93> How do you change your default media player(s)?
[01:26] <Cryoniq> Buuut... that test was under windows.. so I did it under Ubuntu.. and it consumes 10% less.. hmm.. hmmm...
[01:26] <thmo> anyone know why a grub error 22 would screw up ones bios?
[01:26] <Ferret> mcphail: Yeah, last time I used it was probably a 2G disk ;p
[01:26] <kitche> James2432: with the alternate cd yes
[01:26] <Boxxertrumps> hello
[01:26] <Cryoniq> Anyone got a good explanation for that? :D
[01:26] <Landon> Hey all, how do you make a MP server on you computer using music you already have in folders?
[01:26] <James2432> kitche: where would I find these?
[01:26] <Boxxertrumps> is there any way to install ubuntu without using a boot CD?
[01:26] <L0cKd0wN> ok so for you people with xorg problems....
[01:26] <L0cKd0wN> REFORMAT
[01:26] <L0cKd0wN> it solves everything
[01:26] <L0cKd0wN> :)
[01:27] <Cryoniq> All except a screwdriver through the motherboard :P
[01:27] <kitche> James2432: from the same place that you got the desktop cd
[01:27] <L0cKd0wN> hey i tried here in this room for 3 days with no luck
[01:27] <James2432> kitche: thank you ^_^
[01:27] <L0cKd0wN> it was my last hope obi wan
[01:27] <L0cKd0wN> :P
[01:27] <Cryoniq> But it is allways worth a try :)
[01:27] <Ferret> !netinstall | Boxxertrumps
[01:27] <ubotu> Boxxertrumps: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:28] <Boxxertrumps> i dunno, stabbing your motherboard has some thereputic qualities.
[01:28] <Ferret> Landon: What's MP?
[01:28] <lazrpark93> How do I change my default video player to something other than Totem?
[01:28] <Ferret> Landon: Do you mean MPD?
[01:28] <Landon> Ferret: Yeah
[01:29] <Landon> Ferret: I have the clients, but I can't figure out how to put the music on a server
[01:29] <James2432> Would a Dual Xenon processor count as I386?
[01:29] <llol> sgray u still there
[01:29] <Buffalo> I installed ubuntu and i havent network but yesterday on live cd yes, somebody can help me? :S
[01:29] <Cryoniq> Anyway... I was about thinking replacing my thomson 44" widescreen backprojecting TV today with a Panasonic HD Ready 44".. turned out that thing was consuming twice as much.. 280 wh... 0o (just thought I mention it in general interest )
[01:29] <Ferret> Landon: in /etc/mpd.conf (or wherever it is on ubuntu) near the top there'll be an item that tells you where to put music.  You can put the music in there, or symlink to it, or symlink to directories containing it, whatever.
[01:29] <Enselic``> !networking | Buffalo here's a good start
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <royel> !offtopic | Cryoniq
[01:30] <Enselic``> !network | Buffalo here's a good start
[01:30] <ubotu> Cryoniq: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:30] <ubotu> Buffalo here's a good start: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:30] <Landon> Ferret: Thanks, I'll give it a try
[01:30] <Cryoniq> oh.. sorry :)
[01:30] <Enselic``> Buffalo: ... well that was not good unless you need wireless
[01:30] <llol> why would the debootstrapper fail int eh alternate install cd
[01:30] <llol> ?
[01:30] <llol> any ideas
[01:31] <Ferret> Landon: Then run mpc update; wait for it to finish (running mpc to check), and then you can add it all to a playlist using mpc ls and mpc add (hint: mpc ls somedirectory | mpc add)
[01:32] <Landon> Ferret: How do I run mpc update?
[01:33] <Ferret> Landon: in a terminal.  You might need to install it, it's useful for doing bulk-adding and such ;p
[01:34] <Landon> Thanks Ferret, let me give this a try now
[01:34] <James2432> does anyone know the diffrence between the alternate and the server CD/
[01:34] <James2432> obviously server is for servers...
[01:35] <ytoox_> hey, how do I configure a wireless presenter?
[01:35] <kitche> James2432: by default server cd installs a server kernel
[01:35] <AndrewB> James2432: server will have things like apache mysql php ssh etc  alternative is same[ish]  as desktop cept no GUI install.
[01:35] <madd_matt> Can somebody point out where I could find a terminal emulator on the gnome menus?  I'm trying to help somebody remotely.
[01:35] <James2432> ok thank you ^_^ <3 ubuntu :D
[01:36] <Xzenome> Hi do you guys know of an IRC client for *nix that is like Besirc, HydraIC
[01:36] <ardchoille> madd_matt: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[01:36] <Xzenome> HydraIRC or MIRC
[01:36] <madd_matt> ardchoille, thanks.
[01:36] <Xzenome> (Sorry about the split message)
[01:36] <madd_matt> Xzenome, i'm partial to xchat.
[01:37] <royel> madd_matt: Applications >Internet >Terminal Server...
[01:37] <owlhoot> Hello, I'm totally new to Ubuntu, and trying to install a binary file in the terminal
[01:37] <AndrewB> Xzenome: hydrairc works on GNU/Linux IIRC
[01:37] <Ferret> Xzenome: Sounds like xchat
[01:37] <Xzenome> I'm using that at the moment, but I prefer the style of MIRC and HydraIRC
[01:37] <Ferret> owlhoot: Can you tell us more about it?  It might turn out you don't need to.
[01:38] <owlhoot> it is a linux version of google earth
[01:38] <ytoox_> hey, how do I configure a wireless presenter?
[01:38] <p0seidon> ??
[01:38] <Xzenome> AndrewB: No, I just checked HydraIRc doesn't work on *nix
[01:38] <AndrewB> !wireless | ytoox_
[01:38] <ubotu> ytoox_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:38] <kitche> Xzenome: you can install mirc in wine
[01:38] <AndrewB> Xzenome: damn sorry.
[01:38] <royel> Xzenome: real men use irssi :)
[01:38] <ytoox_> ok
[01:39] <dsquare> hi
[01:39] <AndrewB> hello dsquare
[01:40] <royel> !hi | dsquare
[01:40] <ubotu> dsquare: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:40] <owlhoot> ferret, the filename is GoogleEarthLinux.bin, and when I do a sudo it starts the process then says it cant find the file even though i have verified it is in the directory
[01:40] <royel> Xzenome: it's not for girls :)
[01:40] <dsquare> thanks. :)
[01:40] <Ferret> owlhoot: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/84851-todays-challenge-installing-google-earth.html
[01:40] <Gothfunc> hi.  i'm using mixxx, and i'm trying to output the left channel to one device and the right channel for another, but bizarrely, it won't let you do it.  does anyone know how to get around it, or whether there is any other software out there that can output to two devices depending on the channel?
[01:40] <owlhoot> thanks
[01:41] <AndrewB> royel: one of the head devs is a girl.. and she is head of staff on PDPC/Freenode ;)
[01:41] <royel> AndrewB: just dont tell her I said that then :)
[01:41] <Ferret> owlhoot: It might be better for you to read that, the guy on there calls himself new to ubuntu aswell, so he'll probably run into the same issues as you
[01:41] <Snowman3388> anyone want to help me with ubuntu?:D
[01:41] <SoulPropagation> !ask | Snowman3388
[01:41] <ubotu> Snowman3388: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:41] <Ferret> owlhoot: If you have any problems that doesn't help with then please ask in here again with the relevant error messages etc. :)
[01:41] <royel> AndrewB: then again, maybe she wants to be a man! :)
[01:42] <AndrewB> royel: not that I know of ;)  remember there is ubuntu-women too hehe
[01:42] <Ferret> Gothfunc: Make it output to both, and mute the right on one side and mute the left on the other
[01:42] <Ferret> Gothfunc: I doubt you need any extra software to do that, the only hard bit is getting it to duplicate sound on both devices I suspect
[01:42] <AndrewB> Ferret: ick ick LinuxForums.org  :(
[01:43] <Ferret> Gothfunc: Search around? ;)
[01:43] <Xzenome> I it possible to make XChat's layout look like MIRC's? Preferably without compiling and mucking about with the source.
[01:43] <Ferret> AndrewB: It was a highly relevant search result ;)
[01:43] <speck> I installed ubuntu recently and after login only appears a dark screen and a mouse cursor. Please help
[01:43] <drx> Can anyone tell me if there a relatively easy way to install Xen on a Debian (Ubuntu) server?
[01:43] <dimeotane> sometimes when I boot my notebook, sound doesn't work... I try killall esd oss alsa    no change any suggestions?
[01:43] <owlhoot> Thanks ferret, i am checking the posts out now
[01:43] <Snowman3388> I'm new to linux, I was running ubuntu on one hard drive and had windows on another with a third storage drive. I wanted to take the third drive out and I edited my /etc/fstab file and when I rebooted it came up with a grub error. I'm running off the live cd right now and I can't figure out how to mount my linux drive to access my /etc/fstab file
[01:43] <Ferret> Xzenome: Don't be afraid of new things.  you'll get the hang of it soon enough, it's easy.
[01:43] <Gothfunc> Ferret: it won't actually let you assign more than one device, even though it has a device allocation for each channel.  i have googled this and no one seems to want to output to two channels, which to me is weird!
[01:43] <SoulPropagation> How come ubuntu's default interface is so... earthy?
[01:44] <dimeotane> brown is in
[01:44] <dimeotane> I'm tired of techno ipod white
[01:44] <Xzenome> Ferret: I live to be able to see all of the channels at the same time.
[01:44] <dimeotane> silver and black
[01:44] <AndrewB> Snowman3388: sudo mkdir /media/hdd       sudo mount /dev/[what ever]  /media/hdd    cd /media/hdd
[01:44] <ldejan> anyone who can recommend a nice desktop? (currently using fvwm-crystal)
[01:44] <AndrewB> ldejan: gnome
[01:44] <bruenig> xfce is fun
[01:45] <Snowman3388> that's the problem I don't know which drive it is
[01:45] <Smiley> hi guys, my laptop died, i just found a old cd, 6.06. can i install it and update it online once its installed?
[01:45] <Cowlens> is there anything aside from WINE that can run MS Office?
[01:45] <Xzenome> Smiley: Yes.
[01:45] <bruenig> !upgrading | Smiley, yes you can
[01:45] <ubotu> Smiley, yes you can: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:45] <Snowman3388> crossover?
[01:45] <kitche> Cowlens: yes but hte other two costs money
[01:45] <AndrewB> Snowman3388: ok do sudo fdisk /dev/hda   hit p   do you see an ext3 drive?
[01:45] <SoulPropagation> dimeotane: that's not the popular opinion. faik ubuntu isn't designed with iconoclasts in mind
[01:45] <Xzenome> Smiley: Just type "sudo update-manager -c"
[01:45] <Cowlens> kitche, oic! whay are their names?
[01:45] <AndrewB> Cowlens: try an alternative.. OpenOffice.
[01:45] <ardchoille> ldejan: I would recommend Fluxbox, hwoever, no one except you can choose what works best for you :) Try them all and choose one.
[01:46] <Cowlens> *what
[01:46] <kitche> crossover and cedega
[01:46] <speck> I installed ubuntu recently and after login only appears a dark screen and a mouse cursor. Please help
[01:46] <Landon> Ferret: It won't let me copy music into the folder
[01:46] <mossy> hi
[01:46] <SoulPropagation> AndrewB: That's not what he was asking
[01:47] <bruenig> !hi | mossy
[01:47] <ubotu> mossy: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:47] <Xzenome> speck: You've already asked once and without more detail we don't know the cause. Sorry.
[01:47] <AndrewB> SoulPropagation: what who was asking?
[01:47] <Ferret> Gothfunc: Bit of a tough one to search for that
[01:47] <SoulPropagation> AndrewB: Cowlens' question.. maybe he prefers and/or needs MSO
[01:47] <Ferret> Gothfunc: have you tried asking in #alsa ?
[01:47] <mossy> sorry, is somewhere any polish channel about ubuntu, because my English is not well ??
[01:47] <Gothfunc> Ferret: good idea, cheers :)#
[01:47] <Snowman3388> I don't think it's hda Andrew
[01:47] <SoulPropagation> !pl | mossy
[01:47] <ubotu> mossy: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[01:47] <bruenig> !pl | mossy
[01:47] <AndrewB> SoulPropagation: well i apologise for trying to promote Free Software.
[01:48] <dmb062082> ahh last question... the cool kicker launcher for gnome, how do i get it...
[01:48] <AndrewB> Snowman3388: try hdb  hdc  etc  if it is scsi or sata it will be  sda  sdb sdc etc
[01:48] <Cowlens> yup, i need to run msoffice 2003 on edgy, what are the other software that can run it aside from WINE
[01:48] <mossy> how can I change this channel for #ubuntu-pl ??
[01:48] <Ferret> Landon: You probably need permissions to put files there; what does 'ls -ld /blah/blah' (whatever the music directory is) tell you?
[01:48] <dmb062082> i.e. the applications/main menu
[01:48] <AndrewB> mossy: /join #ubuntu-pl
[01:49] <Ferret> Cowlens: Other programs based on wine
[01:49] <Xzenome> I have a load of "quick buttons" on my laptop, is there a program I can use to detect which one is pressed and then map a command to it.
[01:49] <dmb062082> cowlens" xoveroffice and vmware ha
[01:49] <Snowman3388> it's ide
[01:49] <SoulPropagation> AndrewB: that's not my point, my point was this isn't the time
[01:49] <mossy> thx :)
[01:49] <bruenig> SoulPropagation, a lot of people don't know of the alternatives, I had someone in here trying to get me to help them install crossover because they wanted to burn a cd, and they only knew windows
[01:49] <SoulPropagation> Xzenome: yes, system > prefs > kb shortcuts
[01:49] <AndrewB> SoulPropagation: well I _DID_ apologise. Chill.
[01:49] <Ferret> Xzenome: What's your desktop environment?
[01:49] <royel> Snowman3388: sudo dmesg | grep -i hd
[01:49] <Xzenome> gdm
[01:49] <orangefly> can anyone help with gl desktop crashing....???....
[01:50] <SoulPropagation> AndrewB: I'm not upset, just trying to explain my point
[01:50] <dmb062082> how do i implement the newer gnome main menu?
[01:50] <Landon> Ferret: It is root, is there a way to unlock root in the file manager so I can just cut and paste my music?
[01:50] <bruenig> dmb062082, by newer you mean slab?
[01:50] <yettenet> Can anyone help me with tron?
[01:50] <dmb062082> yes
[01:50] <yettenet> I want to run amarok at a specified time, but it doesn't want to
[01:50] <dimeotane> how can i reset the sound in my notebook... any suggestions?
[01:50] <dmb062082> this bruenig: http://reverendted.files.wordpress.com/2006/06/screenshot-gnome-main-menu-favorite-apps.png
[01:50] <owlhoot> Ferret, i got it fixed. I changed the permissions, then went into the file manager interface and opened it with the debi package installer. the rest was a snap. Thanks.
[01:50] <Ferret> Xzenome: Probably what SoulPropagation said ... you can check if X can "see" them by running xev and pressing them.  If it doesn't you may need some special driver for that kind of keyboard, which you'll have to search for somehow
[01:51] <yettenet> ubotu: cron
[01:51] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[01:51] <ardchoille> yettenet: How are you doing that?
[01:51] <orangefly> can anyone help with gl desktop crashing....???....
[01:51] <Pudduh> Hey guys, quick one this time. Is there a graphical tool which I can use to change permissions on files and drives without having to sudo chmod through the command prompt?
[01:51] <gholen> What the hell is ./psc and why is it using some 94% of my cpu?
[01:51] <Cowlens> AndrewB, its ok.. i like openoffice but most of my officemates are used to MSOffice and there were lots of presentations done in Powerpoint and most of its animations are not in openoffice
[01:51] <AndrewB> Well I have seen your point. SoulPropagation. People do not know they have alternatives. I would rather people knew of them, and did not support multi million poind monopalizing corperations. Your own choice not to let people know of alternatives. I suppose they should just 'know' eh?
[01:51] <yettenet> ardchoille: 30 6 * * * env DISPLAY=0. /usr/bin/amarok
[01:51] <Ferret> Landon: Create a symlink in that directory that points to somewhere you can write to.  For example, I have: "/var/lib/mpd/music -> /usr/local/playlists", and then I have: "drwxrwxr-x 7 root audio 280 2006-11-12 16:15 /usr/local/playlists"
[01:52] <bruenig> dmb062082, that is not the "new gnome menu" unless they did something I didn't read, it is an alternative, This appears to be a howto to get it on ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Slab
[01:52] <Smiley> hi guys, my laptop died, i just found a old cd, 6.06. can i install it and update it online once its installed? << sorry if i asked again
[01:52] <Smiley> i just hit install on ubuntu now :)
[01:52] <dmb062082> thanks =)
[01:52] <SoulPropagation> Landon: you don't want to do that -- press alt-f2 and run sudo nautilus
[01:52] <ardchoille> yettenet: If you are attempting to run a GUI app via a cronjob, you need to preceed your command with "env DISPLAY=:0.". Like this: 00 04 * * * env DISPLAY=:0.  command
[01:52] <SoulPropagation> Smiley: yes
[01:52] <yettenet> Oh
[01:53] <yettenet> I missed the ":"
[01:53] <yettenet> Damn
[01:53] <yettenet> :)
[01:53] <gholen> Smiley: yes, you kan
[01:53] <ardchoille> yettenet: lol
[01:53] <royel> Smiley: yes you can, me personally I would not upgrade, if you mean to a new release, since Dapper (6.06) is teh best release already, IMO :)
[01:53] <Smiley> SoulPropagation: kool, and its simple (im a 2year old gentoo user :))
[01:53] <SoulPropagation> Smiley: just update your sources.list when you're done, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:53] <Cowlens> also, the filter part of excel is somehow has a different display in openoffice when there are images embeded in the cells.. so thats why somehow, on a need basis, we do still need MSoffice
[01:53] <royel> !upgrade | Smiley
[01:53] <ubotu> Smiley: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:53] <Smiley> i might need help with that later guys, i know how to do stuff in gentoo, is tehre like a conversion guide for ubuntu somehwere?
[01:53] <Ferret> Smiley: You're a two year old gentoo user?  How can you reach the keyboard?  Doesn't it break from the dribbling?
[01:53] <orangefly> i take it this is a lost cause....last try....can anyone help with gl desktop crashing....???....
[01:53] <yettenet> I had the same problem some days ago and as far as I can remember, you were the one who helped me out then as well :)
[01:53] <Smiley> Ferret: :D
[01:54] <yettenet> I knew I was going to reinstall the system so I wrote that line out
[01:54] <yettenet> :)
[01:54] <royel> Ferret: lol, that was mean :)
[01:54] <yettenet> Well, too bad I can't pay attention when I'm too damn tired
[01:54] <Cowlens> dmb062082, xoveroffice and vmware are the names
[01:54] <Cowlens> thanks
[01:54] <Ferret> orangefly: Don't use broken software, I guess? ;P  Sorry, not really helpful
[01:54] <Pudduh> Hey guys, quick one this time. Is there a graphical tool which I can use to change permissions on files and drives without having to sudo chmod through the command prompt?
[01:54] <Ferret> orangefly: You should try to find some kind of error messages, I think
[01:55] <Landon> SoulPropagation: That definitely worked, thanks
[01:55] <orangefly> what do you use with xgl then....???....
[01:55] <gholen> Someone?
[01:55] <Cowlens> hmm... need to restart, updates done
[01:55] <Ferret> Pudduh: Have you tried using your file manager, clicking on files, checking the menus, searching in help?
[01:55] <SoulPropagation> Smiley: 2 years on gentoo and still using a keyboard? I thought you'd have interfaced yourself through the keyboard port using electrical impulses from your tongue
[01:55] <SoulPropagation> Landon: awesome
[01:55] <Smiley> SoulPropagation: i have, cept i've got a cold ;)
[01:55] <Pudduh> Ferret: Well I can't use my file manager because I can't become root in Ubuntu for a start.
[01:56] <SoulPropagation> Smiley: so whenever you try to make an n it comes out as a b
[01:56] <Smiley> buh!
[01:56] <Pudduh> Ferret: I just want to set file permissions in nautilus without having to resort to chmod. Just being blatantly lazy, thats all :)
[01:56] <Ferret> Pudduh: You can run your file manager as root; you open a terminal and type "sudo nautilus"
[01:56] <Pudduh> Ferret: And my laziness has been rewarded! Thanks :D
[01:57] <SoulPropagation> Pudduh: you can also press alt-f2 to bring up a run box
[01:57] <Ferret> Pudduh: Don't forget to be sensible with your root programs ;)
[01:57] <yettenet> ardchoille: It still doesn't work :S
[01:57] <yettenet> Don't know what the problem could be
[01:57] <yettenet> I'm gonna try reinstalling cron :)
[01:57] <Pudduh> Thanks Ferret & Soul ^^
[01:57] <Pudduh> I will! :D
[01:57] <SoulPropagation> no prob Pudduh
[01:58] <Pudduh> Farewell guys! :D
[01:58] <kondor21> well guys, I am still having a problem mounting my hard drive :)  how  many nights running?  learning a lot about linux along the way though hehehe
[01:58] <drkm> I am trying to upload a directory which has other directories with files in them.. is there a way I can upload it via ftp/ncftp which will automatically create the right directories for me?
[01:58] <mikeh0209> why would ones ethernet card loose connectivity when the screensaver starts
[01:58] <SoulPropagation> I just had a bad thought. What happens when someone says "!hi | !hi"
[01:58] <ardchoille> yettenet: Can you paste that one line from your crontab please?
[01:59] <kapnkrunch> is the feisty fawn ready to be downloaded... or better yet, safe?
[01:59] <kitsuneofdoom> I have random core.##### files appearing in my home folder. Do they serve any purpose?
[01:59] <drkm> I am trying to upload a directory which has other directories with files in them.. is there a way I can upload it via ftp/ncftp which will automatically create the right directories for me?
[01:59] <kitche> kapnkrunch: for people that don't know linux very well it's not really safe
[01:59] <Landon> Ferret: My music is the folder, I did mpc update, but do I have to make playlist? Or can I just play songs? If I have to make a playlist, where can I do that at? And if I don't, why won't it show me my music?
[02:00] <Priswell> I'm having trouble installing a network printer. The Printer is on a Windows machine, so I'm trying to install it as a network printer. The print dialog box keeps asking me for a network name and password. To the best of my knowledge, my network doesn't have a password. How do I install this printer?
[02:00] <kapnkrunch> kitche, lol but linux isn't safe for people who don't know linux very well
[02:00] <kondor21> Right, here is my problem.  Apart from the fact I still need to edit my fstab a bit (ignore that bit) I finally managed to mount hdb1 to /home (yipee) however, when it did it it then hid (lost +found?) all my users.
[02:01] <kitche> kapnkrunch: well you have a point there well for people that don't know there way around really well
[02:01] <Landon> Ferret: NVM, figured it out ;)
[02:01] <mikeh0209> why would ones ethernet card loose connectivity when the screensaver starts
[02:01] <Ferret> Landon: yah.  mpc ls == music library, mpc playlist == your playlist.  mpd takes a while to figure out
[02:02] <mangojambo> hey guys ... I want to record some video tutorials, but i dont know what I can to use to do this ...
[02:02] <kondor21> anyone out there good at solving mounting problems?  it is not a windows mount just plain ol ext3
[02:02] <Ferret> Priswell: Then the username should be anonymous and the password blank.
[02:02] <SoulPropagation> kondor: WHat's the problem?
[02:03] <Priswell> Ferret: Thank you!!!!!
[02:03] <Frogzoo> !anyone | kondor21
[02:03] <ubotu> kondor21: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:03] <Ferret> Priswell: Don't thank me until it works, my memory ain't great.  Might have to look it up. ;)
[02:03] <mangojambo> I hearded about xvidcap, but it don't record sound, that's true?
[02:03] <mikeh0209> i am trying that question asking philosophy
[02:04] <kondor21> Frogzoo did, no one answered :) so thought I would throw my hand up with an "anyone" sure you understand
[02:04] <kondor21> SoulPropergation  Well, I have got as far as being able to mount hdb1 to my /home  but in doing so it hid all my users.
[02:05] <kitsuneofdoom> I have random core.##### files appearing in my home folder. Do they serve any purpose? I think they are program core dumps, but they take up a lot of space and I'm not sure of their use
[02:05] <Ferret> kondor21: When you mount a partition to a directory, all the files in that directory underneath become inaccessible from that location. ;)
[02:05] <Ferret> kondor21: Unless you mean the partition you mounted there should contain files, but doesn't
[02:05] <kitche> kitsuneofdoom: yea they are core dumps
[02:06] <kitche> kitsuneofdoom: you can delete then if you wish
[02:06] <Frogzoo> kondor21: new mounts overlay the file system at the mount point - you'll need to transfer the users on the root partition over to the new /home
[02:06] <kondor21> Ferret, so I will have to copy them to somewhere and slide the copy over when the new partition is mounted?  or do you think I should mount elsewhere?
[02:07] <Chiaroscuro> 'hah
[02:07] <Chiaroscuro> oops
[02:07] <greenpete> Hi all! Anyone up to helping me mount a FAT32 partition? I have googled and checked the ubuntu till I'm so confuzzed!
[02:07] <Frogzoo> kondor21: mount the new partition elsewhere, eg. /mnt - & copy over the users from the root partition
[02:08] <Ferret> kitsuneofdoom: You can prevent them appearing for that user too, if you like
[02:08] <edgey_> help please http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n39/mredgey/Untitled.jpg
[02:08] <Frogzoo> greenpete: what do you have as your line in fstab?
[02:08] <marshall> yo guys, whats the command to mount /dev/hdb to /media/hdb?
[02:08] <greenpete> Mmm not sure which line do you mean?
[02:09] <owlhoot> Ferret are you still there... i got google earth to run but it crashes my system each time
[02:09] <shriphani> hello. could someone please tell me where the .xsession file is located?
[02:09] <Ferret> kondor21: You could temporarily mount it elsewhere and mv the directories over
[02:09] <Frogzoo> greenpete: if you want the partition to mount automatically, you'll need to add a line to /etc/fstab
[02:09] <kondor21> Frogzoo: So I would still need to copy them even though I am mounting in /mnt ?  copy them to /mnt?  I should explain I got them back as I did not fstab the mount just terminal mount to test
[02:09] <Frogzoo> !windows | greenpete
[02:09] <ubotu> greenpete: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:10] <Ferret> owlhoot: Can you describe the crash, or any error messages?
[02:10] <edgey_> help please read http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n39/mredgey/Untitled.jpg
[02:10] <owlhoot> no error messages. it crashes so hard everything locks up and i have to hard reboot
[02:10] <kondor21> Hang on a second, I think I can answer my own question.  Need to just mount to /mnt
[02:10] <jvai> lol!! hey ppl
[02:10] <kitsuneofdoom> Ferret: how?
[02:10] <greenpete> It's a slave drive that I formatted in windblows, does that make a difference?
[02:10] <Frogzoo> kondor21: mount the new partition to /mnt - copy over /home/* to /mnt, then unmount /mnt & remout it as /home  - clear as mud?
[02:11] <edgey_> help please read http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n39/mredgey/Untitled.jpg
[02:11] <greenpete> uboto: why do you think I am here!
[02:11] <greenpete> Yup!
[02:11] <Ferret> edgey_: Do you mean an onscreen one, or a keyboard multicaster, or some other weirdness?
[02:11] <Frogzoo> greenpete: ubuto is a bot: read the link it posted
[02:11] <edgey_> onscreen one
[02:11] <kondor21> Frogzoo: yes, I think I will make a mental note to backup /home incase I decide to change the hard drive in future
[02:12] <Ferret> kondor21: You should either move the directories with mv or copy them with cp -av
[02:12] <greenpete> Ok thanks!
[02:12] <Ferret> kondor21: Otherwise the permissions will go funky
[02:12] <Frogzoo> !ntfs | greenpete soz, this should be right
[02:12] <ubotu> greenpete soz, this should be right: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:12] <shriphani> Frogzoo, can you tell me where the .xsession file is ?
[02:12] <Frogzoo> shriphani: ~
[02:12] <Ferret> edgey_: try gtkeyboard
[02:12] <Frogzoo> shriphani: if it's not there, you'll need to create it
[02:12] <shriphani> ok Frogzoo
[02:12] <greenpete> Looks good thanks, bye!
[02:13] <Alonea> my computer wont restart or shut down. The screen just goes black, but the computer never shuts off
[02:13] <kondor21> Ferret, thanks, off to study how to use mv :)  6 night since moving to linux, I am enjoying it and the learning curve is steep but not impossible thanks to you guys
[02:13] <shriphani> Frogzoo, so if i want to boot fluxbox thru a dm it needs to be in .xsession and if i want to use startx it needs to be in .xinitrc
[02:14] <rellik> arggg :(  you get so used to active channels like #ubuntu and #ruby-lang, etc..  then when I have a windows question, of course #windows is all but silent..  does that mean linux is buggier since it has more active support channels? :)
[02:14] <kondor21> !terminal
[02:14] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:14] <Priswell> Ferret: You were right. It didn't work.
[02:14] <kungfugoat> everytime I switch to a text console, my screen gets corrupted
[02:14] <Gartral> my sound stoped working
[02:15] <Gartral> amarok wont play
[02:15] <kungfugoat> ahh...2007
[02:15] <EdgEy> thankyou Ferret
[02:15] <EdgEy> i broke my keyboard somehow
[02:16] <kungfugoat> Windows is getting worse, linux is getting better and Apple is, well, Apple
[02:16] <EdgEy> while removing a few packages i thought i didn't need
[02:16] <Alonea> I can't really think exactly when it started, but I think it was soon after I got fglrx working for my video card so I could have 3ds acceraltion to run ePSXe and UT2004 properly
[02:17] <EdgEy> now my keyboard well... doesn't work in X. i don't want to reboot since if it's broken then i'm screwed
[02:17] <rellik> EdgEy do you have SSH access?
[02:18] <EdgEy> i can try and set it up?
[02:18] <Cdeszaq> what is the kde version of gedit?
[02:18] <rellik> EdgEy SSH is always a great backup in case your inputs/video/etc gets messed up
[02:18] <EdgEy> never realised I was so fast at typing with a mouse
[02:18] <Pancakes> Could someone help me do a partition with ubuntu (Never done it before)?
[02:18] <rellik> EdgEy (as long as you have a second comp, of course)
[02:19] <n2diy> Cdeszaq: kedit?
[02:19] <EdgEy> rellik i'm using an onscreen keyboard atm
[02:19] <Chiaroscuro> lol
[02:19] <jvai> alonea.. was it working perfectly bfore? i went thru that yesterday!
[02:19] <Meheren> My Argus DC 1540 isn't reconized by ubunut, how can I get it working? (lsusb sees it but that's all eth communication i have with it)
[02:19] <Ferret> Priswell: I dunno then. That works for shares that don't have a password set on them
[02:20] <Ferret> Priswell: What are you using to connect to the printer?
[02:20] <jvai> but it's working now, i did a trick thru the bootmenu...
[02:20] <Alonea> yeah, it was fine. I am pretty sure it started happening after I did the video card, which was hell getting to work since the 2 previous tried killed my screen completely (it was black)
[02:21] <Meheren> It's a digital still camera I inted to use as a webcam because it doubles as one :p
[02:21] <Priswell> Ferret: ethernet > router > Windows machine>  Printer on USB port.
[02:21] <Pancakes> I need some help with doing a partition.:/
[02:21] <Alonea> jvai: I tried doing aspc or something like that, forgot the letters already...bit tired, but I set it to off on the boot option thing
[02:21] <Ferret> EdgEy: have a look at the bottom of /var/log/Xorg.0.log for keyboard related errors
[02:21] <Pancakes> If you have a few minutes, it'd be apprecaited:/
[02:21] <Ferret> Priswell: And what program at the client end?
[02:22] <jvai> oooo! u mean. "acpi=off" @ alonea
[02:22] <Alonea> yes!
[02:22] <Meheren> Pancakes, state your problem
[02:22] <tim167> how can i show the amount of RAM in my computer in the terminal ?
[02:22] <Pancakes> Meheren, just doing the partition alone.
[02:23] <Meshezabeel> I just downloaded a ubuntu binary with a .deb extension, how do I install this?
[02:23] <Pancakes> after I go to "manually edit partition table" I get a bit confused.
[02:23] <tim167> is there a terminal command to show how much RAM i have ?
[02:23] <Meheren> Pancakes, uuum ok what you need help with?
[02:23] <vrkhans> i am trying to install xubuntu
[02:23] <JPMaximilian> tim167: sudo lshw
[02:23] <EdgEy> nothing there Ferret. i've not rebooted or restarted X, it just.. broke
[02:23] <foutrelis> tim167: A command I know of is "top"
[02:23] <tim167> JPMaximilian: thanks
[02:23] <Meheren> Meshezabeel, type in a terminal sudo dpkg -i <package>
[02:23] <tim167> foutrelis
[02:24] <tim167> thanks
[02:24] <foutrelis> np
[02:24] <Meshezabeel> thanks Meheren!
[02:24] <Meheren> np
[02:24] <vrkhans> but i dont know why but the installer is not showing me the all the partitions
[02:24] <Ferret> EdgEy: Does it still work in terminals?
[02:24] <vrkhans> i already have windows installed
[02:24] <Alonea> be back in a sec. trying something
[02:24] <vrkhans> on one of my partition
[02:24] <EdgEy> i can't test
[02:24] <Priswell> Um. . .I'm using Ubuntu 6.10
[02:24] <Pancakes> Meheren, after "manually edit partition table", I would go to rezize, then right there I get lost.
[02:24] <Ferret> EdgEy: because you might not be able to switch back? :/
[02:24] <Pancakes> I've never done a partition before.
[02:24] <Priswell> Ferret: Ubuntu 6.10
[02:25] <Meheren> Pancakes, please tell me what you need help with so i can help you
[02:25] <EdgEy>  ctrl alt f1 doesn't work, but also that
[02:25] <Meheren> Pancakes, get lost with what?
[02:25] <Pancakes> With what to do next.
[02:25] <marshall> yo guys, whats the command to mount /dev/hdb to /media/hdb? ive already tried 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /media/hdb' but i get  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,
[02:25] <Meheren> after resizing it?
[02:25] <Ferret> Priswell: I mean, the dialog or program or whatever you're using from where you're trying to add the network printer?
[02:25] <vrkhans> the installer is just showing me the whole hard drive without any other information on it
[02:25] <EdgEy> marshall,  hdb is a drive
[02:26] <shaun_> can someone help me getting sound to work?
[02:26] <shaun_> its not working at all
[02:26] <Ferret> marshall: /dev/sdb is a whole disk. /dev/sdb1 is the first prtition
[02:26] <Pancakes> While resizing it I suppose.
[02:26] <vrkhans> like other partition
[02:26] <Ferret> errr, hdb
[02:26] <EdgEy> marshall,  you need sdb1 or so
[02:26] <z_malloc> i am having trouble with hylafax, my fax modem and upstart.  when i boot up, the faxboard does not become ready until i restart hylafax.  any ideas?
[02:26] <vrkhans> i dont know what to do
[02:26] <Meheren> uum drag the bar to the left or right depending on what size you want.
[02:26] <EdgEy> hdb yeah lol
[02:27] <Pancakes> Meheren, how much should I give it?
[02:27] <EdgEy> man
[02:27] <ubuntu> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:27] <Priswell> Ferret: I'm not sure what you mean by "program". I'm trying to install a network printer from the Printers menu under System in Ubuntu 6.10. Sorry if that's not what you mean.
[02:27] <vrkhans> help me i am new
[02:27] <ubuntu> bando de fi duma eguaaaaa
[02:27] <Ferret> EdgEy: Well, for future reference you can use 'sudo chvt 1' to change to terminal 1, but correct, don't try it
[02:27] <EdgEy> is there some sort of magic 'keyboard driver' package heh
[02:27] <ubuntu> fi do cuuuuu
[02:27] <Meheren> Pancakes, what partition are you resizing?
[02:27] <JamesG> Is there an easy way to determine what the compile options are for an ubuntu package? Specifically, php?
[02:28] <Pancakes> I don't have any other partitions:/
[02:28] <Ferret> EdgEy: Try 'loadkeys us' (or uk or de or whatever) in a terminal to see if it resets keyboard o.o
[02:28] <Pancakes> I guess the 'only one' :/
[02:28] <vrkhans> it is not showing any partion
[02:28] <Ferret> EdgEy: No, I have a better idea, brb
[02:28] <Meheren> Pancakes, ok so your resizing one partiton to make room for ubuntu, is this correct?
[02:28] <vrkhans> i think it doesnt read my partition table
[02:28] <marshall> EdgEy: mount: special device /dev/sdb does not exist (same for sdb1)
[02:28] <Pancakes> Meheren, that is correct.
[02:29] <spiraldark> I am running ubuntu 6.10, and I keep hearing refrences to "mencoder" but I don't have it... how do I get it?
[02:29] <hatdragon> I've googled for an hour and browsed the ubuntu forums for longer, but I must be an idiot or something--how do I prevent Ubuntu from logging me off after I've been idle for some time?
[02:29] <jrib> !info mencoder | spiraldark
[02:29] <ubotu> spiraldark: mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3171 kB, installed size 7956 kB
[02:29] <EdgEy> marshall,  hdb1 not sdb sorry
[02:29] <marshall> EdgEy: ok
[02:29] <Pancakes> Meheren, if you desire, you could give me a link to a tutorial, and I'll ask you questions after that.
[02:29] <EdgEy> marshall,  sdb is sata ;p
[02:29] <spiraldark> thanks
[02:29] <jrib> spiraldark: after enabling multiverse, use your favorite package manager to install the "mencoder" package
[02:30] <royel> !it | ubuntu
[02:30] <ubotu> ubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:30] <Meheren> Pancakes, that's alright... soo umm probally 8 gigs minimum....
[02:30] <Meheren> Pancakes, how big is your hard drive?
[02:30] <exs> guys, i need a screen recorder, to record my screen for about 5 min
[02:30] <n2diy> hatdragon: is it logging you out, or just forcing you to enter a password, to halt the screen saver?
[02:30] <Pancakes> Meheren, not sure actually, but I'll just give it 10.
[02:31] <Alonea> ok, back, now what did you do to get it to shutdown?
[02:31] <hatdragon> it's logging me out. I never see it, so it obviously only happens after I've been idle for at least half an hour
[02:31] <Meheren> Pancakes, that's probbaly fine
[02:31] <d00by> can anyone help me with twinview? for some reason, it works fine at 2048x768, but when i try to do 2048x1024 only one screen works
[02:31] <n2diy> hatdragon: is it a laptop?
[02:31] <hatdragon> n2diy, I do have a screensaver that goes on before that
[02:31] <hatdragon> n2diy, nope, desktop. And I'd like to keep it running all the time
[02:31] <z_malloc> i am having trouble with hylafax, my fax modem and upstart.  when i boot up, the faxboard does not become ready until i restart hylafax.  any ideas?
[02:31] <Pancakes> So Meheren, after I choose resize, what would I do?
[02:32] <psykidellic> Hit3k, a newbie here. Excuse my ignorance but how do I run some graphical application e.g. Nautilius under sudo mode? I want to change permission of a folder using the graphical interface. I know I can do chmod but I just wanted to try the graphical approach?
[02:32] <d00by> can anyone help me with twinview? for some reason, it works fine at 2048x768, but when i try to do 2048x1024 only one screen works
[02:32] <trav> so i pasted the thing for ubuntu edgey eft on that thing i looked at on the restricted formats dcoumentation...
[02:32] <ElbridgeGerry> How do I get mp3s embedded in webpages to work? (I've already got the codec, it's just embedded pages like YTMND, and don't direct me to ubotu, I've already checked.)
[02:32] <royel> psykidellic: gksudo nautilus
[02:32] <psykidellic> Hit3k, Sorry, that was for all. By mistake I used your name
[02:32] <foutrelis> psykidellic: gksu nautilus
[02:32] <trav> !paste
[02:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:32] <foutrelis> hmm
[02:32] <EdgEy> d00by,  2048x1024?
[02:32] <Meheren> Pancakes create a new partiton, wake it primary and make it reiserfs
[02:32] <n2diy> hatdragon: ummm, my desktop runs 24/7, and I've never had your problem. GL.
[02:32] <Meheren> *make
[02:32] <d00by> edgey, yeah
[02:32] <d00by> edgey, i have 2 17" monitors
[02:32] <trav> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/faad2/libmp4v2-0_2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3_i386.deb  Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer) [IP: 195.248.90.38 80] 
[02:32] <trav> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[02:32] <EdgEy> d00by,  1024x1024 on 2 monitors?
[02:32] <Gothfunc> i need an application that allows the user to select an mp3 and output it to a selected device, so that i may output different mp3s to different devices.  anyone know any appropriate apps?
[02:33] <Pancakes> Meheren, "reiserfs"?
[02:33] <foutrelis> trav: Try the same apt-get command again :)
[02:33] <trav> what do i have to do? does flash now work, or do i still have to do something?
[02:33] <psykidellic> royel, foutrelis That is from shell? How about starting from application menu? Can I do that?
[02:33] <Meheren> Pancakes, it's my personal favorite filesystem type...
[02:33] <trav> ok
[02:33] <JamesG> reiserfs.. It's killer
[02:33] <d00by> edgey, wait hang on, it should be liek 2560x1024 shouldnt it?
[02:33] <Gothfunc> mp3blaster works... mp3blaster --sound-device /dev/dsp1... but mp3blaster is buggy
[02:33] <Meheren> Pancakes, if you prefer you can choose ext3
[02:34] <d00by> edgey, to do 1280x1024 on 2 monitors?
[02:34] <foutrelis> psykidellic: Sorry I don't know of a GUI way to do that
[02:34] <vrkhans> meheren why you like it
[02:34] <trav> foutrelis: do i just paste the command i got when looking at restricted formats/flash in the help doc?
[02:34] <EdgEy> d00by,  identical monitors?
[02:34] <nozzeh> hello Everyone :)
[02:34] <d00by> edgey, yes
[02:34] <EdgEy> yup 2560
[02:34] <hatdragon> n2diy, yeah, I fiddled with screensaver and power management settings, but it still does it. Is it really not a setting, and just a bug on my machine?
[02:34] <Meheren> vrkhans, it's fast and easy to recover if it fails or get's currupt
[02:34] <vrkhans> hmm
[02:34] <vrkhans> what about ext2 or ext3
[02:34] <foutrelis> trav: You can just press the up arrow on your keyboard.
[02:35] <Meheren> Pancakes, you the partiton you are creating should be roughly 9 gigs
[02:35] <ElbridgeGerry> Anyone know why web-embedded mp3s aren't working for me? Regular mp3s work fine, and wavs and other formats work
[02:35] <GionnyBoss> psykidellic, there's a way to do that... read the Ubuntu guide just clicking on the ? icon
[02:35] <JamesG> reiserfs has an uncertain future. Personally I prefer ext3 for its superior robustness.
[02:35] <foutrelis> trav: You can choose a command you have issued before that way :)
[02:35] <trav> foutrelis: this is what i pasted in:       sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[02:35] <trav> Foutrelis, oh i didn't know i could do that
[02:35] <n2diy> hatdragon: It sounds like you changed something, but I have no idea what it might be. At first I thought it was a screen saver setting. Maybe you were playing with security options?
[02:35] <foutrelis> trav: Try this command again :)
[02:35] <vrkhans> hey Meheren: could you help me after pancake
[02:35] <trav> ok
[02:35] <kondor21> when i try to use the cp command like this cp /home/*.* /mnt/*.*  I get lots of ommiting directories, any ideas?  I am root via sudo -s
[02:35] <Meheren> vrkhans, possibly what's your problem?
[02:35] <Ferret> EdgEy: are you able to edit files and start X and check logs and run irc from console?
[02:36] <GionnyBoss> psykidellic, go in 'Working with your desktop' and then 'Advanced Desktop Configurations' and there you will find a short guide to do what you want
[02:36] <Ferret> EdgEy: knowledge-wise?
[02:36] <foutrelis> kondor21: Have you tried that with the -r switch?
[02:36] <EdgEy> kondor21, cp -R
[02:36] <Pancakes> Meheren, I remember there being a mount partition thingy, along with options such as swap and etc., I think that came after resize:/
[02:36] <vrkhans> my problem seems simple but not so simple
[02:36] <JamesG> kondor21: Do cp -r, and *.* is unnecessary. This isn't DOS.
[02:36] <nozzeh> is there a complete newbie guide to Ubuntu to someone that has never touched linux?
[02:36] <d00by> edgy, thats not an option, how do i make it one?
[02:36] <kitche> kondor21: cp -r to cp directories or cp -a
[02:36] <Meheren> yeah, don't worry about it right now.
[02:36] <trav> Foutrelis: do you know how i can make opera my defualt browser instead of konqueror or firefox, also the GRUB lists for ubuntu to chose from(two with some sort of special mode) and two normal, the first is kubuntu, so does that mean the other normal one is ubuntu?
[02:36] <EdgEy> Ferret, i do not know if console will have workung kb
[02:36] <psykidellic> GionnyBoss, Thanks.
[02:36] <ElbridgeGerry> nozzeh: I think we have one in the documentation...Lemme find it.
[02:36] <kondor21> thanks i think its a good chance it needs to -r switch by the looks of all the replies.
[02:36] <Meheren> do you have a ext3 or reiserfs partiton that is about 9 gigs?
[02:36] <hatdragon> n2diy, as far as I know, I didn't change any security settings. I have several programs installed, but all common stuff like beagle
[02:37] <Ferret> EdgEy: Well, we can check that!
[02:37] <Gothfunc> anyone? :|
[02:37] <Pancakes> Meheren, I really don't understand what you mean.
[02:37] <ElbridgeGerry> nozzeh: Are you switching from Windows or Mac?
[02:37] <nozzeh> ElbridgeGerry, cool, i've never touched anything but windows for 15 years
[02:37] <Ferret> EdgEy: Run this command in console (make sure 7 is the terminal X is running on): sudo chvt 1; sleep 5s; sudo chvt 7
[02:37] <nozzeh> windows
[02:37] <EdgEy> Ferret, how will i get back to X if not
[02:37] <Ferret> EdgEy: You have 5 seconds to hit keys D:
[02:37] <EdgEy> ahh, yes
[02:37] <ElbridgeGerry> nozzeh: Okay, here's what you need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows Have fun!
[02:37] <Meheren> Pancakes, did you make a primary partiton like i askd yet?
[02:37] <vrkhans> i have a 200gb hdd i already made partitions 4 , one for windows and and 3 other , but in this installer i cant see any of those partitions, i dont want to lose my other partitions
[02:38] <EdgEy> how can I check X
[02:38] <n2diy> hatdragon: Sorry, all I can suggest is you retrace your steps and see if you can find something pertinent?
[02:38] <foutrelis> trav: Well.. Maybe it is just a different kernel version. :)
[02:38] <Pancakes> Meheren, I'm not on ubuntu right now, this is my only computer:/
[02:38] <EdgEy> think it's on 9 atm
[02:38] <Pancakes> I'm just going by memory.
[02:38] <mlalkaka> I've connected a USB printer to my computer (running Edgy/6.10), but no /dev/usb/lp0 device file was created. In fact, /dev/usb does not even exist. How can I fix this problem?
[02:38] <vrkhans> just a big chunk of 178gb hdd
[02:38] <foutrelis> trav: As for making Opera your default browser, I cannot help tou :(
[02:38] <foutrelis> *you
[02:38] <Meheren> Pancakes, omgosh....  well ok then just leek it up in the wiki
[02:38] <vrkhans> i dont know i can save my other partions and install linux
[02:39] <vrkhans> on one partition
[02:39] <Meheren> Pancakes, they should have documentaiton as well as screenshots
[02:39] <Pancakes> Meheren, that's why I asked for a tutorial ;)
[02:39] <royel> psykidellic: you could create a custom application launcher, very easy to do
[02:39] <Meheren> vrkhans, it doesn't see ANY of your partitions?
[02:39] <vrkhans> i tried gparted in that also it doesnt show me any partition
[02:39] <Ferret> EdgEy: you can check by looking in the X log
[02:39] <vrkhans> no
[02:39] <Meheren> oo
[02:39] <Meheren> uum just sec
[02:39] <dmb062082> frostwire is not in the repos?
[02:39] <vrkhans> just one blank partition
[02:40] <Meheren> vrkhans, you running windows or wine?
[02:40] <vrkhans> big problem na
[02:40] <Ferret> EdgEy: grep VT /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:40] <vrkhans> no right now i am running from the live cd
[02:40] <Meheren> pancakes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[02:40] <hatdragon> n2diy, hmm. Anyway, thanks a bunch. It's been doing it since I installed it a week ago, so I don't remember too well. Any other places (people, channels) I should look to for help?
[02:40] <EdgEy> sudo chvt 1; sleep 5s; sudo chvt 9
[02:41] <Meheren> vrkhans, but do you have wine or windows installed on your comptuer?
[02:41] <kondor21> so just a question while my hdd's whirtl away, is /home the place that fills up the most usually
[02:41] <vrkhans> i have windows installed
[02:41] <Alonea> anyone else know why my computer stopped shutting down?
[02:41] <Meheren> kondor21, usr is very large
[02:41] <whileimhere> !DVD
[02:41] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:41] <n2diy> hatdragon: see if you can find a clue with google, and keep asking here every ten minutes or so.
[02:42] <FabioBr> Hi, anyone knows how to configure a vpn??? I'm having a problem with the configuration
[02:42] <kondor21> guess what i did, doh, i only cp'd home to usr instead of mnt grrrrr!  always double check eh!
[02:42] <EdgEy> Ferret, text works in console
[02:42] <Priswell> Ferret: I got the printer to work! Don't ask me how, though! I had another Ubuntu box running under VMWare on another computer and I copied everything (even when I thought I had already done it that way before) and it finally accepted the settings. Thanks for responding.
[02:42] <drx> Help
[02:42] <EdgEy> Ferret, thankyou
[02:42] <Ferret> EdgEy: Then will be safe to restart X. ;)
[02:42] <hatdragon> n2diy, thanks, again
[02:42] <Ferret> And reboot, whatever
[02:42] <n2diy> hatdragon: nada
[02:42] <EdgEy> actually...
[02:42] <trav> foutrelis: thanks, if its a diff kernal, would it have a different string of numbers? cos both sets seem the same to me
[02:42] <drx> I installed Ubuntu and now there's no boot option for Windows!
[02:42] <EdgEy> hmm
[02:43] <EdgEy> it's not
[02:43] <ElbridgeGerry> drx: What did you choose during installation?
[02:43] <drx> I just did a standard install of 64-bit Ubuntu.
[02:43] <whileimhere> What is the difference between the LAME package from the Seveas server compared to the Synaptic package?
[02:43] <drx> I partitioned manually
[02:43] <EdgEy> Ferret,  if i restart X and keyboard doesn't work, i'm stck at logon
[02:43] <drx> I left the Windows partition alone
[02:43] <Hail_Spacecake> how do I see the IP address of all computers connected to a network?
[02:44] <drx> (FAT32)
[02:44] <drx> and created 1 swap & 1 ext3
[02:44] <Byan> Hail_Spacecake: ... uh? try pinging them all?
[02:44] <drx> all are primary paritions
[02:44] <sijmen> Hail_Spacecake, you could try a broadcast ping
[02:44] <n2diy> Hail_Spacecake: ping -b your broadcast address.
[02:44] <ElbridgeGerry> drx: Okay, sounds good...I'm not familiar with most BIOS...have you checked your boot menu?
[02:45] <Byan> drx: your gonna have to set up grub
[02:45] <Byan> is grub installed?
[02:45] <Ferret> EdgEy: Yes, you might want to do something about that ;p
[02:45] <Hail_Spacecake> what do I put into ping, though?
[02:45] <EdgEy> Ferret, um, /etc/init.d/gdm restart; sleep 60; sudo chvt 2?
[02:45] <Hail_Spacecake> if I don't know what the IP is
[02:45] <Byan> Hail_Spacecake: you don't... you write a script or something to ping every address, or a program
[02:45] <EdgEy> sudo /etc....
[02:45] <Byan> try google
[02:46] <Ferret> EdgEy: Do you know how to setup start-up session stuff in gnome?
[02:46] <Pancakes> That link didn't say anything about doing a partition:/
[02:46] <Ferret> EdgEy: Ahh, you have a login thingy, so that won't help
[02:46] <n2diy> Hail_Spacecake: use the ifconfig command to find the broadcast address of your network, and then ping -b that address.
[02:46] <mlalkaka> I've connected a USB printer to my computer (running Edgy/6.10), but no /dev/usb/lp0 device file was created. In fact, /dev/usb does not even exist. How can I fix this problem?
[02:46] <Ferret> EdgEy: In a terminal, try Alt-SysRq-[
[02:47] <Pancakes> Could someone guide me in doing a partition (I've never done a partition before, and I have no clue what I'm doing).
[02:47] <Ferret> EdgEy: It's a kernel feature, not sure if ubuntu enables it (so check :)
[02:47] <exs> is there any screen recorder for ubuntu??
[02:48] <exs> i need to capture a clip
[02:48] <EdgEy> Ferret, some strange output
[02:48] <dkbg> I am having issues with lm-sensors
[02:48] <Ferret> exs: you mean a video clip thingy?
[02:49] <Pancakes> Does anyone have a link of how to install and partition ubuntu?
[02:49] <exs> yeah...
[02:49] <Ferret> EdgEy: That's cool.  From X, try doing Alt-SysRq-r and then let go of all three buttons and do Alt-F1
[02:49] <Ferret> EdgEy: If that works it gives you a way to get out of X any time you like
[02:49] <dkbg> Pancakes: what exactly do you mean?
[02:49] <EdgEy> woooooooo
[02:49] <EdgEy> yup
[02:50] <exs> Ferret:  a video capture
[02:50] <Ferret> EdgEy: OK, *now* you're safe to restart :D
[02:50] <tompouce> Hi
[02:50] <dkbg> Pancakes: are you trying to dual boot?
[02:50] <Pancakes> dkbg, I want to do a partition (Keep my winddows, and have ubuntu).
[02:50] <kondor21> !install
[02:50] <EdgEy> thanks. vbrb hopefully
[02:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:50] <ts20_5m0k3> http://digg.com/tech_news/Behind_the_scenes_of_a_news_station_photos <--wow
[02:50] <Pancakes> dkbg, essentially the installation of ubuntu.
[02:50] <tompouce> I downloaded a lot of gtk2 themes, but none are as they are on the screenshots, only the colors change and the button still square. the themes that came with ubuntu are working fine tough,.
[02:50] <dkbg> Pancakes: okay well thats pretty easy, you already have windows installed to the whole hd I guess?
[02:51] <Ferret> exs: vnc2swf looks popular
[02:51] <Pancakes> Should be.:/
[02:51] <Ferret> EdgEy: Don't forget that key combo ;p
[02:51] <kam> hello
[02:51] <Pancakes> I know I need to go to "manually edit partition table", however I get 'lost' after that of what to do.
[02:51] <royel> !hi | kam
[02:51] <ubotu> kam: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:51] <dkbg> Pancakes: okay
[02:51] <kam> is there any wireless guru in here?
[02:52] <tompouce> Could someone help me
[02:52] <royel> !network | kam I am the all knowing guru,
[02:52] <ubotu> kam I am the all knowing guru,: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:52] <_pHI_> hi, do i need to have portmap running (on port 111) if i want to use nfs as a client, i.e. access nfs shares?
[02:53] <EdgEy> Ferret, well, an X restart fixed it. thank you so much :)
[02:53] <whileimhere> Can I use Synaptic to upgrade to Edgy Eft 7.04?
[02:53] <Zemmy> how do I write to WinXP folders on the other partition? I'm dual booting Edgy and XP (obviously)
[02:53] <EdgEy> ? ntfs-3g
[02:53] <EdgEy> ! ntfs-3g
[02:53] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:53] <kam> i cannot get my intel 3945 working on a fujitsu amilo pro
[02:53] <dkbg> Pancakes: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing that walks you through it pretty well
[02:54] <royel> !fuse
[02:54] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:54] <jrib> !upgrade | whileimhere
[02:54] <ubotu> whileimhere: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:54] <whileimhere> Thanks
[02:54] <exs> can someone please help me to install vnc2swf? http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/
[02:54] <Ferret> ntfs-3g is better ;)
[02:54] <kondor21> !terminal
[02:54] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:55] <royel> Ferret: I agree myself, I just wanted to share that there is a choice
[02:55] <kam> can anyone help me troubleshoot.. i am lost with getting intel 3945 working?
[02:55] <dkbg> Pancakes: you there?
[02:55] <Pancakes> dkbg, on that link, the 9th image, should I choose the first one?
[02:56] <Pancakes> I was told by someone to choose manually edit partition table
[02:56] <dkbg> Pancakes: yeah the first choice is probably best
[02:56] <dkbg> Pancakes: are you only running XP right now with no wacky partitions?
[02:56] <Pancakes> Only XP
[02:56] <dkbg> okay, well the first choice should be fine
[02:56] <Malachi> Hey.
[02:56] <dkbg> you should defrag your hd a few times before you do it
[02:56] <Malachi> Major problem.
[02:57] <Malachi> I can't open links in Firefox from applications like XChat or Wengophone.
[02:57] <Malachi> And I need to open a WengoPhone link to register.
[02:57] <kam> Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work. - any idea how to turn it off?
[02:57] <Pancakes> dkbg, will I get anything else after that to do?
[02:57] <Smiley> hey guys, if i close the lid to my laptop, nothing changes...
[02:57] <royel> Malachi: you try to right click on the link, sometimes you get a menu to copy link, then you can just paste it to FF
[02:58] <Smiley> its still updating now, but anyone give me a quick hint why ? (ive changed the power saving options to hibernate.
[02:58] <Nuute> #beryl
[02:58] <Malachi> royel: Works in X-Chat, but not in WengoPhone. Tried it.
[02:58] <royel> Smiley: that explains why your so "smiley" :)
[02:58] <Pancakes> dkbg, oh thanks for the help in advance.
[02:58] <Smiley> :D
[02:58] <dkbg> Pancakes: I don't think so, just choose the size you want your ubuntu partition to be
[02:59] <Pancakes> What will happen after that?
[02:59] <dkbg> and keep in mind, I'm no expert here :) I've never used that choice heh
[02:59] <kam> can anyone help me troubleshoot.. i am lost with getting intel 3945 working?
[02:59] <Pancakes> Lol dkbg, it's okay. ;)
[02:59] <royel> Malachi: guess you have to type the url manually :(
[02:59] <Malachi> I don't know it, royel.
[02:59] <Pancakes> dkbg, when I get it installed, how will I use the internet?
[02:59] <Malachi> All I have is "Click Here."
[03:00] <Ferret> exs: Erm, have a go with that, but if you have trouble try pyvnc2swf instead, from what I'm reading it's easier to set up
[03:00] <dimeotane> any games suited to a P2 older system?
[03:00] <dimeotane> xscavenger was a good example
[03:00] <Ferret> dimeotane: text-based games? ;)
[03:00] <Pancakes> dkbg, I have a CD for the wireless router I use (Needed to use to get internet for windows)
[03:00] <n2diy> Malachi: check the options in system-preferences-preferred applications.
[03:00] <dimeotane> sure, anything good
[03:00] <kam> can anyone help me troubleshoot.. i am lost with getting intel 3945 working?
[03:00] <Malachi> n2diy: Done already.
[03:00] <dimeotane> that could interest a 'tween'
[03:01] <dkbg> Pancakes: okay well that won't work in ubuntu
[03:01] <dimeotane> (and get em hooked on ubuntu for life)
[03:01] <Pancakes> dkbg, what will I have to do?
[03:01] <dkbg> that could be uquite simple or it could be a little complex
[03:01] <n2diy> Malachi: hmmm?
[03:01] <Smiley> Anyone? Why doesn't my laptop hibernate?
[03:01] <canllaith> Hey, is anyone able to give me the names of the few packages required to build the kernel on ubuntu?
[03:01] <Malachi> n2diy: Tried the preferred applications.
[03:01] <jrib> Malachi: what happens when you try to open the links?  Try 'sudo update-alternative --config x-www-browser'
[03:01] <canllaith> I need to stress test a machine here at work but it doesn't have an internet connection so I'll have to bring the packages to it on a usb stick
[03:02] <kitche> canllaith: build-essential unless you want to make a package
[03:02] <Malachi> jrib: Tried that as well, it's set to firefox. I also set it to /opt/firefox/firefox to be sure.
[03:02] <Pancakes> I'll need to purchase a wireless router for linux, won't I?
[03:02] <dkbg> Pancakes: you'll probably want to install gnome-network-manager to get wireless working nicely
[03:02] <n2diy> Malachi: don't know what else to suggest.
[03:02] <dkbg> Pancakes: no, the router should be alright, its just the hardware in your computer
[03:02] <StoneNote> some laptops haven't eaten enough during the fall to put on a thick layer of fat, and thus cannot hibernate like the other laptops in the winter
[03:02] <canllaith> kitche: That is a meta package, right? Is there a way I can easily find out the individual packages that make it up?
[03:02] <i_is_cat> how do i bring up a list of wireless networks to connect to?
[03:02] <jrib> Malachi: and my question?
[03:02] <Smiley> Pancakes: na, ust find out the IP you can configer the router at.
[03:02] <royel> !ndis | Pancakes
[03:02] <ubotu> Pancakes: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:02] <Smiley> StoneNote: this one is OLD :D
[03:03] <Smiley> 2years :/
[03:03] <Malachi> jrib: Nothing.
[03:03] <Smiley> and its the fatest laptop ever :o
[03:03] <kitche> canllaith: yes packages.ubuntu.com or looka t synaptic but there will be baout 10 packages or so
[03:03] <mlalkaka> I've connected a USB printer to my computer (running Edgy/6.10), but no /dev/usb/lp0 device file was created. In fact, /dev/usb does not even exist. How can I fix this problem? Has the location of /dev/usb/lp0 changed in edgy?
[03:03] <dkbg> Pancakes:  yeah just look around the ubuntu docs, ubuntuforums.org and google, should help you
[03:03] <ecker> anyone in here play ut2003? im trying to install it, so i copied the installer off the 3rd disk and when i try to install it i get alot of mount: /dev/ is not a block device  ??
[03:03] <Malachi> Well, it's okay guys. I'll figure something out.
[03:03] <canllaith> kitche: I don't have an ubuntu system myself, so I need to find the packages online. Thanks :)
[03:03] <kam> can anyone help me troubleshoot.. i am lost with getting intel 3945 working?
[03:04] <Pancakes> I doubt htis will help, but I use a linksys wireless-b usb network adapter
[03:04] <Smiley> ecker: you need to export where the CD's are
[03:04] <Smiley> its in the readme i think on the CD.
[03:04] <i_is_cat> i am using a linksys wireless b usb adapter as well
[03:04] <kitsuneofdoom> I would like to know if there is a script for evolution so I can remove duplicate entries
[03:04] <dkbg> Pancakes: your best bet is just to get ubuntu installed and then fiddle until it works
[03:04] <i_is_cat> works fine except i need to know how to get a list of networks
[03:04] <kam> Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work. - any idea how to turn it off?
[03:04] <Ferret> dimeotane: Hrm, there's loads of 'em, and I don't know what ones are available on ubuntu, but you could try: kdegames, abuse_sdl, gltron, crack-attack, frozen-bubble, bass, bsd-games (bunch of text games, best of which are advent and atc), fish-fillets, dopewars
[03:05] <d00by> can anybody help me with some real basic stuff? I am trying to copy using "cp /home/Chris/Adobe /home/chris/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files" but its not working? it says omitting directory '/home/chris/Adobe'? Any ideas?
[03:05] <LordKeiden> what could consume all my free disk space (20.2GB) and then give it back on a reboot? I'm in gnome, and only firefox and xchat are running.
[03:05] <jrib> d00by: cp -a
[03:05] <Smiley> d00by: cap's in first one, no caps on chris in second one too.
[03:05] <jrib> LordKeiden: /tmp ?
[03:05] <d00by> thanks, jrib, it worked
[03:05] <dkbg> can anyone help me with lm-sensors?
[03:05] <putterson> does anybody know anything about tilp here?
[03:06] <putterson> or about usbfs
[03:06] <dkbg> I'm getting "No sensors detected"
[03:06] <jrib> !anyone | dkbg , putterson
[03:06] <ubotu> dkbg , putterson: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:06] <jrib> dkbg: did you try running sensors-detect?
[03:06] <dkbg> jrib: well I really don't know what the problem is, I follow a howto and it just doesnt work
[03:06] <dkbg> jrib: yes
[03:07] <putterson> i am having a problem with tilp, it is telling me something about usbfs not working
[03:07] <Pancakes> Sorry about that.
[03:07] <Pancakes> i_is_cat, what did you have to do to get your internet up?
[03:08] <LordKeiden> jrib, good call man. tmp is growing at 100MB per 15 secoonds, or 400mb per minute. what do i do to find what is causing it?
[03:08] <dkbg> jrib: I ran sensors-detect once, it went through with some failures, it gave a list of modules ( a very short one, only included i2c-i801 I think) I did modprobe and such, ran "sensors", and No sensors detected
[03:08] <dkbg> jrib: now when I run sensors-detect it just quits on one of the last questions
[03:09] <whileimhere> I have installed libdvdread3 and when I try to follow the instructions ( sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh ) at https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html it does not work. Anyone know why?
[03:09] <Pancakes> dkbg, I'll attempt to install the ubuntu, then I'll come back and ask for help.
[03:09] <jrib> dkbg: k, I don't really know much about lm-sensors myself
[03:09] <Pancakes> If you're not here when I return, thanks for all of your help.
[03:09] <dkbg> Pancakes: no problem :) hope it goes well
[03:09] <LordKeiden> how do i identify what app owns a file? i found the file that it growing out of control.
[03:10] <dkbg> jrib: okay thanks anyway
[03:10] <jrib> LordKeiden: fuser  maybe
[03:10] <xadloki> Hello, I'm having trouble with .zip and .deb files I download from the internet, everytime firefox completes the download and I try to open it it gives me a warning about security and changes the file to a plain text format ? any suggestions ?
[03:11] <Ferret> LordKeiden: sudo fuser -av file; or sudo lsof | grep file
[03:11] <i_is_cat> the wiki says you need to set your essid and such to your router
[03:11] <jrib> xadloki: is it a firefox-specific problem?  If you download with wget does everything work ok?
[03:11] <i_is_cat> but i want to scan for what routers aer available
[03:11] <i_is_cat> how?
[03:11] <LordKeiden> thanks Ferret , jrib
[03:11] <xadloki> haven't tried I'm pretty new and not sure what wget is
[03:11] <bulmer> LordKeiden: maybe try lsof also
[03:12] <shaun_> anyone?
[03:12] <Hasinski> hi
[03:12] <Hasinski> anyone here ?
[03:12] <putterson> i_is_cat ; are you trying to look for wireless networks?
[03:12] <jrib> xadloki: wget is a command that you use in the terminal to download files.  Basic usage:  wget http://www.foo.com/file.zip    will download file.zip to the current directory
[03:12] <jrib> Hasinski: a few
[03:12] <Hasinski> :)
[03:12] <Hasinski> got some questions :)
[03:12] <xadloki> jrib: thanks I'll give it a try
[03:13] <Hasinski> while i couldnt find it on furms and google
[03:13] <i_is_cat> yes
[03:13] <Hasinski> well i got hp dv6000 series
[03:13] <jrib> !enter | Hasinski
[03:13] <Hasinski> and its abaout mic and cam ??
[03:13] <ubotu> Hasinski: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:13] <Hasinski> ok sry
[03:13] <putterson> i_is_cat ; i use kwlan
[03:13] <putterson> are you using ubuntu?
[03:14] <Hasinski> im just not udes to IRC
[03:14] <Hasinski> putterson: yes im using ubunu edgy
[03:14] <LordKeiden> beagled-helper owns the file that is growing. why would beagle eat 20GB?
[03:14] <tompouce> I downloaded a lot of gtk2 themes, but none are as they are on the screenshots, only the colors change and the button still square. the themes that came with ubuntu are working fine tough,.
[03:14] <i_is_cat> ubuntu live
[03:14] <tompouce> How could i fix this?
[03:14] <KNY> how can I force a reinstall of a package?
[03:14] <Hasinski> KNY: -f
[03:14] <jrib> KNY: sudo aptitude reinstall package_name
[03:14] <putterson> oh ubuntu live
[03:14] <KNY> thanks
[03:14] <john> does any one usa amarok with ubuntu
[03:15] <putterson> i think you can install programs but it uses up your ram
[03:15] <KNY> john, yes
[03:15] <jrib> john: many people I'm sure
[03:15] <Hasinski> john: i thing songbird is beetr >)
[03:15] <kitsuneofdoom> I would like to know if there is a script for evolution so I can remove duplicate entries
[03:15] <john> i having trouble with streaming audio
[03:15] <Hasinski> kitsune: i havent found that...
[03:15] <tompouce> fuck
[03:15] <i_is_cat> cant install if i cand connect to the net tho ;/
[03:15] <feryana> Hi guys! There is any software, to be able to insert a DvD Movie and see it (also to change language, etc)
[03:16] <john> yes xine
[03:16] <Hasinski> soo pls do someone now how to fix bug with cam and mic (built in)
[03:16] <KNY> is there a way to minimize evolution to the tray rather than the task bar
[03:16] <putterson> how are you connected now?
[03:16] <KNY> feryana, try VLC
[03:16] <i_is_cat> work
[03:16] <putterson> oic
[03:16] <Hasinski> KNY: no
[03:16] <KNY> sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:16] <i_is_cat> ;/
[03:16] <KNY> Hasinski, dang
[03:16] <john> cable
[03:16] <tompouce> Is KDE apps runs well under gnome?
[03:16] <KNY> I hate having it open all the time; I'd rather a daemon run to check my email
[03:16] <tompouce> Because I want amarok, but i dont want kde.... :S
[03:17] <xadloki> jrib: yes wget worked, I tried a couple other common files and everything keeps changing to text files that comes through firefox... strange... anyway thanks for the help
[03:17] <KNY> tompouce, it runs fine under gnome
[03:17] <putterson> can you hook up your comp with the livecd with ethernet?
[03:17] <Hasinski> KNY: but there an app -> mail-notification-evolution
[03:17] <KNY> Hasinski, yeah? nice
[03:17] <KNY> thanks
[03:17] <jrib> xadloki: k, I don't really know what would cause firefox to do that :/
[03:17] <Hasinski> KNY: np
[03:17] <i_is_cat> i have no net at home
[03:17] <LordKeiden> how do i stop beagled-helper?
[03:17] <i_is_cat> trying to get it from a neighbour
[03:17] <KNY> i_is_cat, outch
[03:17] <putterson> oic
[03:17] <putterson> lol
[03:18] <KNY> ouch*
[03:18] <i_is_cat> moving..
[03:18] <puki> LOL
[03:18] <Hasinski> termpouce: u can install amarok at gnome, dont understands u ...
[03:18] <putterson> well you could always download the files from work and save on usb drive and such
[03:18] <echosyp> anyone here in the UK
[03:18] <john> does anyone have streaming problems with amarok
[03:19] <Hasinski> are some webmast4rs here,m im looking 4 some good app for php ... and havent found yet i used to my dremweaver on win, but this just dont wont run under ubuntu :/
[03:19] <Hasinski> john: no, only with exile :(
[03:19] <tompouce> KNY, nice! and for my trouble about themes, do you have an idea?
[03:20] <KNY> tompouce, I missed that question; what was it?
[03:20] <KNY> Hasinski, what was that?
[03:20] <tompouce> I downloaded a lot of gtk2 themes, but none are as they are on the screenshots, only the colors change and the button still square. the themes that came with ubuntu are working fine tough,.
[03:20] <dkbg> Hasinki: are you just looking for a text editor with syntax highlighting?
[03:20] <dkbg> Hasinski: what are you requirements?
[03:20] <KNY> tompouce, are you changing just the window borders?
[03:20] <Hasinski> not exactli, i like to see my files ons erver too and edit them directly
[03:21] <john> having problems with xine streaming
[03:21] <Hasinski> tempuce instal Beryl :)
[03:21] <KNY> I don't mess with themes much; I just use Beryl/Emerald
[03:21] <jens> little question, when I want to remove some default packages like bittorrent, I cant do it because it shows me a dependency on ubuntu-desktop (which I believe is very important package)
[03:21] <KNY> Hasinski, yeah, I have yet to find a decent FTP-capable text editor
[03:21] <KNY> so I started writing one
[03:21] <i_is_cat> tried it but the system is locked down
[03:21] <ecker> grr... everytime i try and mount my cdrom i get mount: block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
[03:21] <KNY> but it's not going very fast
[03:22] <jrib> Hasinski: vim can do that if you like vim
[03:22] <KNY> ecker, is it a CD burner?
[03:22] <shatrat> jens, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, if you remove any of the default programs you lose it, but you will still have all the other individual packages.
[03:22] <puki> emacs +1
[03:22] <echosyp> anyone in the UK want to tell me what "manko" means
[03:22] <KNY> puki, ?
[03:22] <Hasinski> jrib: must trz
[03:22] <john> kny is dma setup in bios
[03:22] <puki> I vote emacs
[03:22] <royel> john: what kind of problem?
[03:22] <ecker> KNY dvd burner
[03:22] <royel> john: streaming from internet?
[03:22] <john> streaming
[03:22] <putterson> cat, have you tried tor?
[03:22] <john> audio
[03:22] <john> yes
[03:22] <Hasinski> OK, and another Q, what do i use instead of my corel ??
[03:22] <jens> shatrat: thx :-)
[03:23] <tom__> hello
[03:23] <putterson> hello
[03:23] <john> hi
[03:23] <tom__> i just got ubuntu
[03:23] <tompouce> KNY, im using beryl, im changing only the gui themes... :S
[03:23] <echosyp> anyone in the UK want to tell me what "manko" means
[03:23] <Hasinski> GnomeBaker - THE BEST 4 BUNRUNG
[03:23] <echosyp> anyone in the UK want to tell me what "manko" means
[03:23] <shatrat> jens, I think removing default packages can be a problem for upgrading distributions though, so I wouldnt remove it unless you really want to.  although I guess you can just reinstall ubuntu-desktop later
[03:23] <echosyp> anyone in the UK want to tell me what "manko" means
[03:23] <tompouce> i think so
[03:23] <tom__> after getting pissed of at my frequent blue screens
[03:23] <KNY> tompouce, use emerald themes
[03:23] <i_is_cat> tor?
[03:23] <puki> Hasinski, you can RUN coredraw directly on linux
[03:23] <royel> echosyp: I can tell you what /ignore echosyp  means
[03:23] <putterson> yeah it uses socks instead of http
[03:23] <Hasinski> puki: how ?
[03:24] <echosyp> yeah
[03:24] <echosyp> you can tell me
[03:24] <puki> s/coredraw/coreldraw
[03:24] <echosyp> but i still want to know
[03:24] <Hasinski> puki, with wine it just dont wont to install
[03:24] <puki> lol
[03:24] <dkbg> the best code editor with the most features I've found is Kate, unfortuantely its a KDE app
[03:24] <tompouce> KNY, yeah for windows borders, but for the inside i must use gtk2 tehems no? :S
[03:24] <putterson> hey echosyp
[03:24] <echosyp> yo
[03:24] <putterson> try this
[03:24] <echosyp> ?
[03:24] <putterson> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=manko
[03:25] <i_is_cat> i can browse wherever
[03:25] <echosyp> oh man
[03:25] <i_is_cat> its accessing usb keys etc that doesnt work
[03:25] <echosyp> there is an urbandictionary
[03:25] <echosyp> my bad
[03:25] <KNY> tompouce, like I said, I've not done too much with themes; sorry
[03:25] <Hasinski> tempuce: so download gtk2 theme -> gnome-look.org
[03:25] <putterson> cat, oic you cant use usbkeys?
[03:25] <tom__> does anyone know how I can extract rar files/
[03:25] <putterson> do you have cd burner
[03:25] <jrib> !rar | tom__
[03:25] <ubotu> tom__: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:25] <Chiaroscuro> dkbg: try out jedit, pretty nice
[03:25] <Hasinski> tom: tar -x
[03:25] <Chiaroscuro> lots of customizable plugins
[03:25] <i_is_cat> no
[03:26] <gop> eddgy broke tv out
[03:26] <putterson> hmm
[03:26] <gop> I can't seem to get tv out even after patching the kernel
[03:26] <gop> on my ati 9500
[03:26] <dkbg> Chiaroscuro: its java though :(
[03:26] <tompouce> KNY, ok thanks :P
[03:26] <dkbg> and is quite ugly from I've seen on windows
[03:26] <StoneNote> gop, maybe you should give your ati 9500 a tax break
[03:26] <Hasinski> anyone know how to run corel ??
[03:26] <StoneNote> bwahahahahaha
[03:26] <tompouce> Hasinski, i downloaded about 10 themes, and none are working, i installed theme and only the colors changed, not the shape... :S
[03:26] <gop> hahaha
[03:27] <Chiaroscuro> dkbg: still works pretty nice, you can customize the look a decent amount, on windows i just use crimsoneditor
[03:27] <Hasinski> tempuce: impossible, do u know how ti install themes ?
[03:27] <bruenig> I think you should send it off to haliburton, they will fix it, don't look around though, no bid contract will do
[03:28] <JimBeam> hi, im using ubuntu server: is there a way when i'm doing: "apt-get -f install" to avoid being prompted for the cd? meaning a command i can use that all packeges should be downloaded, not being fetched from the  cd
[03:28] <linux_kid> HELP! I did a port scan and port 443 (HTTPS) came up as open, and I'm not running a web server on my PC!
[03:28] <ledbettj> JimBeam: remove the CD lines from the top of your /etc/apt/sources.lst file
[03:28] <bruenig> JimBeam, remove the cd line from your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:28] <royel> linux_kid: close it up in your firewall rules then
[03:28] <nrdb> can anyone tell my why the hd command isn't displaying all of a file, 0x50 and 0x7f all I get displayed is one '*' symbol
[03:28] <sosa> linux_kid: lsof
[03:28] <linux_kid> royel, could you explain that...
[03:28] <JimBeam> ledbettj, bruenig: can i "comment" it somehow? for later re-use
[03:29] <StoneNote> JimBeam, comment out the cd line in sources.list, usually the first line. sudo nano /etc/atp/source.list then comment it out then CTRL O then CTRL X then apt-get update
[03:29] <dyrne> JimBeam: the of course apt-get update
[03:29] <itguru> hi everyone :)
[03:29] <ledbettj> JimBeam: sure, use the # sign
[03:29] <bruenig> JimBeam, yeah use #
[03:29] <Hasinski> hi
[03:29] <putterson> hello
[03:29] <itguru> !wifi
[03:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:29] <dkbg> how do you do a portscan?
[03:29] <JimBeam> thx to all
[03:29] <linux_kid> dkbg, google it
[03:29] <Hasinski> HOW TO INSTALL COREL ON UBUNTU EDGY ??
[03:29] <bruenig> !caps
[03:29] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:29] <itguru> dkbg, you can use nmap to do portscans
[03:29] <ledbettj> dkbg: try 'nmap'
[03:29] <dyrne> dkbg: if your asking you probably want something like nmapfe
[03:29] <StoneNote> Hasinski, first you need to hit your caps lock key
[03:29] <Hasinski> sry
[03:30] <mau> hiya peeps
[03:30] <tompouce> Hasinski, from theme preferences... no?
[03:30] <bruenig> !hi | mau
[03:30] <ubotu> mau: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:30] <putterson> !help
[03:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:30] <Hasinski> tempouce: yes, the easiest and best way
[03:30] <mau> what's the preferred bittorrent client amongst you ubuntuers?
[03:30] <putterson> utorrent
[03:30] <putterson> on wine
[03:31] <tretle> I was wondering if anyone could tell me if its possible to log into ubuntu with your openid handle instead of a normal one
[03:31] <Hasinski> tompouce: just look and the theme description what deos it need
[03:31] <dyrne> mau: i like rtorrent its ncurses or for gui deluge isnt bad
[03:31] <linux_kid> mau, most use just plain bittorrent, but i personally wine utorrent
[03:31] <tom__> ktorrent
[03:31] <tompouce> Hasinski, thats what i do, ah maybe ok
[03:31] <tretle> so when you log into ubuntu you log into all your open accounts at once?
[03:31] <mau> wow
[03:31] <mau> wine huh
[03:31] <mau> i guess i best get to installing it
[03:31] <shatrat> mau, azureus > all in my experience
[03:31] <tom__> is there a way to stream .wmv files?
[03:31] <dyrne> ktorrent is ok but has way to much overhead in gnome for my tastes. same for azureus
[03:32] <Chiaroscuro> use bittyrant over azureus
[03:32] <Hasinski> no one know how tu set up corel on ubuntu machine :( ?
[03:32] <Chiaroscuro> its built on it, but improved
[03:32] <Chiaroscuro> bit-tyrant
[03:32] <shatrat> gimmick
[03:32] <ledbettj> azureus is kind of bloated, but I've had much better success with it that the default bittorrent client.
[03:32] <ledbettj> *that->than
[03:32] <lumination> hey.  What can I do to stop fsck from complaining on boot and throwing me into a maintenance prompt after changing partitions?  I can boot as normal by exiting the maintenance prompt with ^d but I don't want to have to do that every time I reboot
[03:32] <putterson> mau : you should also get microsoft fonts if you are going to be using wine
[03:32] <tompouce> Hasinski, this theme does not need any font or.... its suposed to work the theme is neutronium
[03:32] <royel> Hasinski: is Corel a window binary?
[03:32] <Chiaroscuro> altho, mostly i just fire up a screen with btdownloadcurses!
[03:32] <shatrat> azureus has some lifesaving features though, like distributed tracking
[03:33] <tom__> does anyone know how I can play windows media files?
[03:33] <Hasinski> royel: Vector gfx app, CorelDraw
[03:33] <Chiaroscuro> http://bittyrant.cs.washington.edu/
[03:33] <dyrne> lumination: there is a checkfs.sh or somesuch in /etc/init.d/  you can either sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/whatever or sudo update-rc.d -f whatever remove
[03:33] <shatrat> !wmv | tom_
[03:33] <ubotu> tom_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:33] <royel> !restricted | tom__
[03:33] <ubotu> tom__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:33] <Hasinski> tompouce: wait, will check
[03:33] <ledbettj> tompouce: you might need the gtk engine...
[03:33] <tompouce> Hasinski, thanks a lot
[03:33] <ledbettj> try sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[03:34] <doujikai1984> asdf
[03:34] <royel> Hasinski: an it's a windows application?
[03:34] <Hasinski> ledbeet: that good idea
[03:34] <tompouce> ah thanks ill try
[03:34] <Hasinski> royel: yes
[03:34] <royel> Hasinski: have you looked into crossover or wine?
[03:34] <Hasinski> royel: and dont wont to instal under wine
[03:34] <tompouce> whats the difference between compiz and beryl?
[03:34] <royel> Hasinski: theres not much other choice then
[03:34] <lumination> dyrne: I really want to be able to have the filesystem checked tho
[03:35] <dyrne> lumination: / should still be checked
[03:35] <lumination> hmmmm
[03:35] <Hasinski> tompouce: for me compiz dont run beryl do run ( with official inst guide) :) what i read compiz is more stable but with less fireworks
[03:35] <lumination> yeah it's my home partition
[03:35] <tompouce> ah ok
[03:35] <lumination> that's why I want it checked
[03:35] <lumination> some of my most important data goes in there
[03:35] <tompouce> beryl rocks so hard compared to vista
[03:35] <putterson> lol
[03:35] <Xenguy> Hasinski: my gawd, use inkscape or something native :-)
[03:35] <kitche> Hasinski: well considering beryl is as stable as compiz since beryl uss the same code pretty much
[03:35] <Hasinski> tompouce: beryl is justy gr8, love this think from mac
[03:35] <tompouce> I find beryl stable, it didnt crashed all day long :P
[03:35] <P235> is there a faster way to set up program launchers under xfce as you can in gnome?
[03:36] <asdf_> easiest way to install beryl or compiz? I want opengl desktop
[03:36] <bruenig> P235, where are you trying to put these launchers, are you talking about desktop icons?
[03:36] <Hasinski> tompouce: sometimes it crashes but need only to click refrash window decorator and ready :D
[03:36] <tompouce> asdf_, look on the ubuntuforums, i got it there
[03:36] <asdf_> thanks
[03:36] <Xenguy> P235: I just configure/load them off the panel
[03:36] <francois> how do i revert to an older version of a package again ?
[03:37] <dyrne> P235: yeah i dont know what thunar calls them
[03:37] <Xenguy> !revert
[03:37] <Hasinski> asdf: ubuntuguide.org & wiki.beryl-project.org
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about revert - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <Xenguy> hrm
[03:37] <Xenguy> !rollback
[03:37] <sha1sum> ahhh
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rollback - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <shatrat> francois, if you installed from a repo you can search for the package in Synaptic and use Package -> Force Version to install an older version, and then lock it so it doesnt get upgraded
[03:37] <tompouce> Hasinski, hehehe :P I really think of throwing winblows out of my computer, the only apps thats getting me on windows is guitar pro and im now looking at tuxguitar so mouahahah!!!
[03:37] <Xenguy> tsk tsk
[03:37] <P235> I just installed xfce and I was wondering if there's another way than individually configuring the launchers.
[03:37] <kitche> !fishing | Xenguy
[03:37] <Hasinski> asdf: in my opinio install nvidia beta drivers if u have nvidia
[03:37] <ubotu> Xenguy: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:37] <feryana> hi
[03:37] <bruenig> P235, what are you calling Launchers
[03:37] <feryana> how can I see a DvD Movie with Linux?
[03:37] <Xenguy> kitche: investigation is not abuse IMHO
[03:37] <dyrne> just dont ask ubotu about love hes very bitter
[03:37] <bruenig> !dvd | feryana
[03:37] <ubotu> feryana: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:38] <Xenguy> kitche: but sure, I can /msg :-)
[03:38] <sha1sum> so nobody really knows how to let fsck know the starting and ending sectors for the filesystem have changed ?
[03:38] <feryana> thanks
[03:38] <francois> shatrat: synaptic ?
[03:38] <Hasinski> ubotu: u just grate
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u just grate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <francois> !synaptic
[03:38] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[03:38] <Hasinski> ubotu: u got so small
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about u got so small - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <shatrat> francois, System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[03:38] <su_> hallo peoples! a question I have not been able to find an answer to anywhere else I've looked so far... is there any way to use apt-get/aptitude/synaptic/etc to manage packages on a different system than the one currently booted?
[03:38] <Hasinski> ubotu: how to became famous and reach
[03:39] <P235> bruenig, hmmmm I set up program icons on the panels and associate them with commands.  Say if I wanted to set up a FreeMind launcher I would look up the place with the FreeMind icon and then associate it with the command 'freemind'.
[03:39] <su_> my laptop has crashed, and hard... even running kernels in recovery mode, it won't go past acquiring keymaps.
[03:39] <shatrat> su_, you can ssh into the other system and run it from the comand line
[03:39] <su_> running from a LiveCD at the moment.
[03:39] <su_> other system won't boot :] 
[03:39] <Reuben> Hi. I wanted to switch over to linux and was pointed here. i need some help
[03:39] <su_> well, this system, actually, but you get the idea.
[03:39] <bruenig> P235, ok right, just right click panel and add launcher
[03:39] <shatrat> su_, I see.  Might be able to do something from the liveCD, im not too familiar with using the liveCD though
[03:39] <P235> bruenig, is that the only way?
[03:40] <bimberi> Reuben: hi, ask away, if someone can help they'll reply
[03:40] <bruenig> P235, yeah
[03:40] <P235> bruenig, alright, just checking before I do these.
[03:40] <Reuben> how do i choose a distro for my laptop Acer aspire 7003wsmi
[03:40] <su_> shatrat: Yeah. I'd consider doing a basic reinstall, except that there's a bunch of stuff on there that, though vital, I don't want to put mass effort into tracking all down again.
[03:40] <su_> Reuben: Hmm.
[03:40] <majd> Hey, how do i check what version of gtk i have?
[03:40] <Tzadok> hello everybody
[03:41] <Xenguy> majd: dpkg -l gtk*
[03:41] <Xenguy> majd: is one way
[03:41] <su_> Reuben: Choice of distro is really a personal thing... some may or may not have certain hardware support, but you can almost always copy whatever you need in from somewhere else.
[03:41] <feryana> ok
[03:41] <Xenguy> majd: even:  dpkg -l gtk* |grep ^ii |less
[03:41] <kevman> I am trying to install mplayer, but it can't find a bunch of packages, such as libdvdread3.
[03:42] <feryana> I installed libdvdread3 and I made the decryption thing. How I call it? I don't see it in the programs
[03:42] <bimberi> Reuben: using a distro's LiveCD (if it has one) can be a good guide to how it will work on your hardware
[03:42] <Reuben> I'm willing to learn and i heard ubuntu is especially beginner friendly. Its the hardware support i have issues with
[03:42] <majd> Xenguy, neither
[03:42] <shatrat> feryana, you dont need to use it, lib means library.  Other programs like Totem and MPlayer will use it
[03:42] <su_> Reuben/bimberi: yeah, that's generally a good idea.
[03:42] <Xenguy> feryana: I think it gets accessed/used by other applications transparently  ?
[03:42] <Reuben> used knoppix v.4 n 5 and debian
[03:42] <feryana> shatrat totam still needs the driver
[03:42] <feryana> the codec I mean
[03:42] <Xenguy> majd: that will indicate if it is install or not I would think
[03:43] <richduhrm> what codec u need?
[03:43] <Reuben> wifi had issues didn't work
[03:43] <shatrat> feryana, did you follow the video how-to on help.ubuntu.com?
[03:43] <majd> Murrine engine says i need gtk2.8+ to install
[03:43] <feryana> I will install thge plugins now
[03:43] <Xenguy> majd: maybe dpkg -l *gtk*    ?
[03:43] <`Jessie> hi! I have a Intel dual core system, I can use 32 bit with that right?
[03:43] <bimberi> Reuben: frequently the case (unfortunately).  What chipset?
[03:43] <Tzadok> I was wondering if anyone knew the way to make a Portable HD boot ubuntu live
[03:43] <shatrat> Reuben, wi-fi often has issues.  You should be able to find a how-to for your hardware that will work though
[03:43] <mothersuperior> YEP!
[03:44] <Reuben> hold on...getting details
[03:44] <mothersuperior> Reuben
[03:44] <shatrat> `Jessie, of course you can
[03:44] <majd> Xenguy, No packages found matching gtk-gnutella-downloads.
[03:44] <Ferret> libgtk\* probably
[03:44] <mothersuperior> what wifi card do u have
[03:44] <m150> Totally new to linux, anyone could give me a hint on how the partition table should look on a 37.5gb harddrive (slow comp P3@600mhz,392mb ram)
[03:44] <su_> yeah, wi-fi is the hardest one, really
[03:44] <Xenguy> majd: hrm, should work, sorry it isn't here/now
[03:44] <darknight2183> anybody know how to add an hp all in one c6180 printer that is connected to your network
[03:44] <richduhrm> majd what codec u need java?
[03:44] <Reuben> its inbuilt...looking up the system specs
[03:44] <mothersuperior> what model notebook?
[03:44] <mothersuperior> HP?
[03:44] <mothersuperior> Dell?
[03:44] <shatrat> acer
[03:45] <snowman3388> can someone help me with ubuntu
[03:45] <mau> just installed ubuntu on my pc box today!  I'm officially a linux user.
[03:45] <mothersuperior> hmm a acer?
[03:45] <Xenguy> majd: last suggestion: try doing this first:  cd /
[03:45] <richduhrm> what u need snow man
[03:45] <`Jessie> I just bought an HP :)
[03:45] <Xenguy> majd: then run the dpkg command
[03:45] <shatrat> Reuben, if you boot from the LiveCD or install then you can easily find the exact chipset using the lspci command
[03:45] <mothersuperior> You probally have the boardcom  wireless driver
[03:45] <majd> Xenguy, ah yeah, now i got a bunch of stuff
[03:45] <bruenig> m150, depends, all you need for sure is a root partition of whatever length, at least 3 gigs to be safe and more if you expect to store files on it, and a swap partition of maybe 512 mb
[03:45] <mau> so... what DVD player do i need to download?
[03:45] <Tzadok> I was wondering if anyone knew the way to make a Portable HD boot ubuntu live
[03:45] <mothersuperior> you can use ndiswrapper
[03:45] <Xenguy> majd: hmmm
[03:45] <bruenig> !info vlc | mau
[03:45] <Hasinski> mau: ubuntuguide.org
[03:45] <ubotu> mau: vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[03:45] <snowman3388> I'm trying to mount a hard drive from the ubuntu live cd
[03:45] <Toma-> m150: thats not slow :) As for partitioning, id say / = 5gb, and /home = the rest
[03:45] <Reuben> Acer aspire 7003 wsmi  card>>Atheros AR5005g
[03:45] <feryana> I knew it
[03:46] <mau> ooh... nice.. i like vlc on my mac
[03:46] <mau> will do
[03:46] <feryana> I installed all the codecs... till not working
[03:46] <feryana> xD
[03:46] <shatrat> mau, I like mplayer but it doesnt do graphical dvd menus
[03:46] <Toma-> m150: ahh and maybe 512mb for swap
[03:46] <richduhrm> basicly u bought a new hard drive and ur tryin to boot ubuntu on it?
[03:46] <Tzadok> nah
[03:46] <Tzadok> i boutgh a portable hd
[03:46] <mothersuperior> reuben when u do a iwconfig?
[03:46] <mothersuperior> do u see it?
[03:46] <richduhrm> shatrat i use song bird it is perfect
[03:46] <Xenguy> majd: sometimes it seems if you are in a cwd that has a filename that resembles the string you're searching for with dpkg, things mess up - that's why I suggested switch to a different dir
[03:46] <majd> Xenguy, it says i have GTK 2.8.1 but when i try to compile the Murrine Engine it says configure: error: GTK+-2.8 is required to compile Murrine
[03:46] <timbe> hello everyone
[03:46] <Tzadok> and was trying to make that portable hd be able to boot ubuntu on multiple different computers
[03:47] <m150> bruenig, what file system should the root partition be in?
[03:47] <Reuben> actually i'm totally new at this...always used windows
[03:47] <majd> Xenguy, i guess that makes sense, i need to do some research on dpkg
[03:47] <shrndegruv> hey whats the best virtualization option for running windows on edgy?
[03:47] <mothersuperior> Reuben
[03:47] <shrndegruv> by best i mean fastest
[03:47] <mothersuperior> Go 2 terminal
[03:47] <Xenguy> majd: compiling is like that <shrug> - that is why I try to stick to packages ;-)
[03:47] <mothersuperior> type in iwconfig
[03:47] <Toma-> shrndegruv: qemu
[03:47] <shrndegruv> Toma - why better than vmware ?
[03:47] <timbe> is there a way to enable remote login for gnome withOUT using the gui? (I'm sitting on my box at home wanting to login to my work computer via vpn)
[03:47] <majd> Xenguy, the link the guy provides doesn't work :(
[03:47] <mothersuperior> Let me know if wifi0 appears?
[03:48] <Toma-> shrndegruv: because its free, and its faster
[03:48] <ecker> how do i point my ./linux_installer.sh thats in the /home directory to my cdrom?
[03:48] <mothersuperior> timbe
[03:48] <m150> toma, a bigger swap won't give any effect right?
[03:48] <mothersuperior> why would u not want gui with gnome?
[03:48] <shrndegruv> faster eh?
[03:48] <jrib> in a shell script (lets call it a.sh), is it possible for me to determine what file executed a.sh?  For example of /usr/bin/b.sh has a line calling a.sh, I'd like a way to get "/usr/bin/b.sh" inside the script a.sh
[03:48] <Xenguy> majd: google, dunno - you're dealing with non-standard packages so it's a bit wild out there I expect ;-)
[03:48] <dyrne> timbe: im not sure i understand what youre trying to do
[03:48] <shrndegruv> dam
[03:48] <shatrat> timbe, are you looking for something like ssh?
[03:48] <shrndegruv> should have asked before installing vmware ;)
[03:48] <mothersuperior> gnome and gui go hand & hand right?
[03:48] <Toma-> m150: not unless your doing some serious photo editing and such. but on those specs, i doubt youll be doing anything too memory intensive right?
[03:49] <mothersuperior> ya i think he wants ssh
[03:49] <majd> Xenguy, ok, thanks for the help
[03:49] <Xenguy> majd: good luck
[03:49] <su_> to rephrase my question before more generally: anybody know how to affect a mounted filesystem with apt-get or similar, without actually booting said filesystem separately?
[03:49] <bimberi> Reuben: "Ubuntu ships madwifi in the restricted component, which is enabled in the default install. Madwifi chipsets should therefore just work." - http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu
[03:49] <m150> toma, just learning, nothing heavy
[03:49] <timbe> mothersuperior: all the howto's i find for enabling remote login say goto System > login click on enable blah blah....here's my problem....im not sitting at the computer I need to enable to remote login too.. ie. I'm at home the computer I want remote login enabled to is sitting at work.
[03:49] <Surb> timbe, are you trying to remotely enable remote login?
[03:49] <Reuben> ok will log out and reboot into knoppix then get back to you
[03:50] <timbe> Surb: yes!
[03:50] <timbe> Surb: nail on the head
[03:50] <Toma-> m150: well 512 should be fine. if its too small, you can always resize or every replace it with a swapfile
[03:50] <mothersuperior> well Timbe usually u have 2 configure  the rlogin at the local machine right?
[03:50] <itguru> Can anyone recommend a channel to speak about wifi cracking?
[03:50] <snowman3388> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /media
[03:50] <snowman3388> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1,
[03:50] <snowman3388>        missing codepage or other error
[03:50] <snowman3388>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[03:50] <snowman3388>        dmesg | tail  or so
[03:50] <mothersuperior> before u can remote into it
[03:50] <snowman3388> (anyone know why it's doing this?)
[03:50] <mothersuperior> Itguru
[03:50] <m150> toma: but what filesystem should i choose for the different partition, I choose to do like: 5GB + 32GB + 0,5Swap
[03:50] <mothersuperior> go 2 irongeek.com
[03:50] <Xenguy> snowman3388: don't paste!
[03:51] <mothersuperior> or backtrack2 channel
[03:51] <snowman3388> sorry
[03:51] <Chiaroscuro> backtrack definately
[03:51] <richduhrm> snow man check ur messages on left
[03:51] <timbe> mothersuperior: I have ssh access so...shouldn't I be able to enable via console?
[03:51] <Toma-> m150: make it all ext3, but swap will be its own swap filesystem
[03:51] <snowman3388> which messages?
[03:51] <snowman3388> I'm using gaim
[03:51] <m150> toma: thanks
[03:51] <richduhrm> i sent u a priate message
[03:51] <richduhrm> private
[03:51] <Toma-> no problem!
[03:51] <Xenguy> timbe: what are you actually wanting to do??
[03:51] <mothersuperior> yep
[03:52] <mothersuperior> if u configured ssh access
[03:52] <richduhrm> u hsould see it at top or on left with my name on it
[03:52] <timbe> Xenguy: remotely enable remote access
[03:52] <mothersuperior> your home machine windows?
[03:52] <YangYin> hey guys when my dmesg is nothing but  rtl8180: WW:No more TX desc, returning 30 of 30... is that bad?
[03:52] <mothersuperior> down load putty?
[03:52] <timbe> mothersuperior: Both are ubuntu boxes
[03:52] <snowman3388> I see it, I sent you two messages but there's no reply from you
[03:52] <Surb> Xenguy: he has ssh access
[03:52] <BlueLaguna> is a cpu with two cores recognized as multiple cpus or one?
[03:52] <timbe> im sitting on root on my work comp via ssh right now
[03:53] <Xenguy> Surb: sounds like remote access <shrug>
[03:53] <dyrne> timbe: i usually just use vnc and ssh. well rdesktop if i need a windows machine.
[03:53] <Gumby> remotely enable remote access?  isnt that a egg/chicken sort of thing?
[03:53] <piro> not really
[03:53] <mothersuperior> hehehe
[03:53] <Xenguy> Surb: does he want a GUI/desktop?
[03:53] <timbe> Gumby:remotely enable remote X access
[03:53] <mothersuperior> No he does not
[03:53] <mothersuperior> just ssh into the damn thing
[03:53] <timbe> yes...i do
[03:53] <timbe> I want a gui
[03:54] <mothersuperior> Vnc u have 2 configure , which he probally didnt do righT?
[03:54] <timbe> i can run around in console all i want
[03:54] <Xenguy> timbe: OK then - freenx is your friend (if you can manage to configure it successfully)
[03:54] <Gumby> timbe: you want vncserver and possibly rfb
[03:54] <richduhrm> damn u have gaim snowman
[03:54] <richduhrm> ?
[03:54] <snowman3388> yeah I do
[03:54] <mothersuperior> brb guys got 2 take a dump
[03:54] <richduhrm> whats ur name
[03:54] <dyrne> timbe: also freenx if you already have ssh access and port forwarding setup is very nice. many possibilities
[03:54] <timbe> dyrne: which is the fastest?
[03:54] <snowman3388> real name?
[03:55] <itguru> backtrack2 channel
[03:55] <ubuntu> Hi, I just added a new partition to my system and installed windows on it.. How can I get Windows to be an option for my GRUB??
[03:55] <Mobster> I can Ping websites but not browse them in firefox. What would cause that?
[03:55] <Xenguy> timbe: freenx, hands down
[03:55] <richduhrm> no on gaim
[03:55] <richduhrm> so i can im u
[03:55] <snowman3388> I have msn
[03:55] <dyrne> timbe: freenx has much better compression. its usable on a dialup line
[03:55] <Gumby> Mobster: ping websites or URLs?
[03:55] <Stu_2> Mobster -- are you pinging them by name?
[03:55] <richduhrm> are u in ubuntu
[03:55] <Xenguy> timbe: freenx is X over ssh (or is it ssl? secure anyways)
[03:55] <Gumby> err, websites or IP's
[03:55] <Mobster> Gumby: Uhh URLS?
[03:55] <snowman3388> on the live cd
[03:55] <timbe> dyrne: they are both broadband... im just powerhungry
[03:55] <toulouse> hey guys, i made a disk image, but i dont know where ubuntu put it, can yall help?
[03:55] <richduhrm> ok
[03:55] <Danny> im on the live cd
[03:55] <richduhrm> go to applications
[03:55] <Spartacus> Is there a way to change the color scheme for Ubuntu?
[03:55] <Xenguy> timbe: freenx = faster
[03:55] <Mobster> Stu_2: Yes but it seems that if they have a 2nd tier name then they come back as 1.0.0.0
[03:55] <richduhrm> internet then gaim
[03:56] <Stu_2> er..
[03:56] <timbe> Xenguy: thanks so much
[03:56] <snowman3388> yup
[03:56] <Gumby> Mobster: which web browser?
[03:56] <Mobster> Stu_2: If I dig it I get the right IP
[03:56] <Xenguy> timbe: good luck
[03:56] <Mobster> Gumby: Firefox
[03:56] <richduhrm> have u ever used aim
[03:56] <dyrne> timbe: freenx is more secure and faster.  vnc unleass you do it over ssh isnt really that secure
[03:56] <richduhrm> or have a name for aol
[03:56] <JimBeam> is there a way to auto correct dependencies (like apt-get install -f) when using "sudo dpkg --install" ?
[03:56] <paitken> Can someone tell me how to play a ripped DVD
[03:56] <snowman3388> I've used aim but I don't have a name, do you want me to make one?
[03:56] <Danny> how do I add my new windows installation to the list on my grub boot manager?
[03:57] <richduhrm> ys
[03:57] <richduhrm> msn suck balls
[03:57] <snowman3388> who should I add?
[03:57] <piro> question about freenx, anyone to use it on a windows computer as the client?
[03:57] <Ferret> JimBeam: The reason apt exists is to do clever things on top of dpkg, so I doubt it... but I'll look anyhow
[03:57] <Mobster> Gumby: When i tried to log in here irc.ubuntu.com and irc.freenode.net both came back as 1.0.0.0
[03:57] <richduhrm> me
[03:57] <richduhrm> richdurhm
[03:57] <snowman3388> oh okay
[03:57] <piro> does it only work used the nxclient
[03:57] <dyrne> Danny: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst copy the entry for windows that is commented # out
[03:57] <snowman3388> okay I'll add you soon
[03:57] <Mobster> Stu_2: pinging by name works after a little delay
[03:57] <dyrne> Danny: only think you need to change is the partition
[03:58] <Stu_2> Mobster -- what entries do you have in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[03:58] <JimBeam> Ferret: i want to install "webmin" , but apt-get doesnt find it, and when i try to install the downloaded package with dpkg i get dependency errors
[03:58] <dyrne> piro: nomachine client is free for windows
[03:58] <Ferret> JimBeam: Is apt not working for whatever you're foing?
[03:58] <Spartacus> Is there a way to change the color scheme for Ubuntu?
[03:58] <piro> ya i just found it thanks dyrne
[03:58] <Mobster> Stu_2: nameserver 192.168.1.1
[03:59] <Stu_2> Mobster -- what kind of router do you have ?
[03:59] <piro> well then f vnc ;>
[03:59] <Mobster> Stu_2: DSL modem
[03:59] <Stu_2> you're directly connected to the modem ?
[03:59] <m150> Toma: Part#1=ext3@5GB, Part#2=extended@32GB, Part#3=ext3@31.5GB, Part#4=linux-swap@0,5GB   <-- does this seem to be correct, just about to hit enter :D
[03:59] <Ferret> JimBeam: I assume you tried putting the .deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[03:59] <Mobster> yup
[03:59] <Stu_2> hm
[03:59] <Stu_2> guess its forwading your DNS queries for you.. who is your ISP ?
[03:59] <Stu_2> forwarding*
[03:59] <JimBeam> Ferret: as i am a noob, no - i will try that, thx
[04:00] <Mobster> Stu_2: Our local monopoly
[04:00] <Spartacus> Anyone?
[04:00] <richduhrm> xcan nayone tell me  experinced user whats beter limewire or frostwire?
[04:00] <Mobster> I Know the DNS server IP for that should I use that instead?
[04:00] <Xenguy> piro: I've found setup can sometimes be finicky, but once it's done, it rocks :-)
[04:00] <dyrne> richduhrm: frostwire sticks it to the man. limewire sticks it to you
[04:00] <Stu_2> Mobster -- that was my next step.. looks like 200.10.152.232 is ns.cwjamaica.com
[04:00] <richduhrm> huh?
[04:01] <richduhrm> so i should use frostwire
[04:01] <Stu_2> try putting that IP in instead of the 192.168.1.1
[04:01] <Danny> dyrne: there is no entry for windows in menu.lst
[04:01] <VolkerOS> howdy all!
[04:01] <Stu_2> Mobster ( and ns.cwjamaica.com resolves names for me )
[04:01] <VolkerOS> booga booga
[04:01] <Mobster> Stu_2: That would stop me from browsing
[04:01] <dyrne> richduhrm: they are really about equal for functionality. ones just open
[04:01] <Danny> dyrne: what should this entry look like? i know its my hda2
[04:01] <Mobster> Stu_2: ?
[04:01] <Stu_2> Mobster -- if it breaks name resolution you can always change it back
[04:01] <kevcast> What's the terminal command to install Clearlooks for GTK?
[04:01] <m150> installin ubuntu and have a question about my partition table: Part#1=ext3@5GB, Part#2=extended@32GB, Part#3=ext3@31.5GB, Part#4=linux-swap@0,5GB   <-- does this seem to be correct, just about to hit enter :D
[04:02] <chrismurf> anybody here familiar with HAL?  I'm trying to have a camera icon popup for my camera instead of the default usb storage icon.  I've created an appropriate fdi file, can't figure out where it goes / how to make HAL use it.
[04:02] <Stu_2> Mobster -- in your /etc/resolve.conf, put nameserver 200.10.152.232 instead of the 192.168.1.1 address
[04:02] <mothersuperior> timbre  are u there
[04:02] <richduhrm> so wich one should i use i have lime wire but i cannot get pro i have pro on my windows but not linux
[04:02] <rb007> kevcast: clearlooks theme?  It's in the system -> preferences menu
[04:02] <dyrne> Danny: you should be able to google for an example. sorry im not on linux right now.
[04:02] <eelmoo> Hello
[04:02] <ki-eye> greets everyone
[04:02] <VolkerOS> howdy
[04:02] <VolkerOS> starting a long day at work!
[04:02] <chaz_> richduhrm, ever try soulseek? I always liked it better. The linux version of that is called Nicotine.
[04:02] <VolkerOS> :(
[04:02] <Danny> dyrne: ok so when i add that text i can just save and reboot and it should work? i dont have to run a command to commit the changes?
[04:03] <dyrne> richduhrm: id use frost on basic principal :)
[04:03] <kevcast> rb007: I don't think it's a theme, I think it's a plug-in for GTK to show a certain effect for panels, top of windows, etc.
[04:03] <kevcast> I may be wrong though, I don't know.
[04:03] <ki-eye> I'm having some issues getting my netgear wg311 card working in my ubuntu setup... can anyone help out?
[04:03] <dyrne> Danny: yeah if the entry is correct it will work
[04:03] <rb007> kevcast: go to System - >preferences -> themes --- it's in there
[04:03] <VolkerOS> oooo wifi card
[04:03] <ki-eye> I've looked around on the web, but didn't find anything that would work
[04:03] <ki-eye> VolkerOS, it would be much more impressive if it worked ;)
[04:03] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: have you looked online for any reference
[04:04] <rb007> does anyone know how to enable mod_rewrite on apache2 on Ubuntu?  Do I just add a couple of lines to apache2.conf?  like this  LoadModule rewrite_module modules/mod_rewrite.so  and  AddModule mod_rewrite.c  ?  The instructions I'm reading say to "uncomment" those lines but I don't see them.
[04:04] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: i had to compile a driver for my d-link
[04:04] <kevcast> rb007: It's not a theme, it's an engine. http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk_engines/
[04:04] <[R] eaper> hi, i need help with my ati card
[04:04] <ki-eye> VolkerOS I've found a few mentions of it, but none that worked specifically... I saw someone mentaion ndiswrapper
[04:04] <ki-eye> but I couldn't get it to compile
[04:04] <JimBeam> Ferret: i copied the package in the archives dir, running "apt-get install webmin" and then "apt-get -f install" first removed webmin (guess it was only partially installed before), when i run "apt-get install webmin" again, i get an error that the package webmin has no installation candidate
[04:05] <chaz_> anyone know anything about Opera and/or proxy connections?
[04:05] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: why not?
[04:05] <kondor21> guys I am in trouble here, I need to edit fstab from terminal.  I have no access to Gnome. My fstab mounts hdb1 to my home and if I can stop then I can get back, using live cd to chat now.
[04:05] <Mobster> Stu_2: Seems to have helped thanks
[04:05] <Stu_2> Mobster-- great!
[04:05] <ki-eye> VolkerOS, it bombs out...
[04:05] <VolkerOS> kondor21: vi fstab
[04:05] <VolkerOS> kondor21: make sure you're sudo
[04:05] <rb007> kevcast: you can get to it through System -> Preferences -> Themes...
[04:05] <rb007> try it
[04:05] <Xenguy> kondor21: do you have 'nano' installed?
[04:05] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: checking some things
[04:05] <kevcast> rb007: Do you know how? I'm a newbie. :(
[04:06] <Jrabbit> Ok
[04:06] <kondor21> Xenguy I dont know what nano is so i guess not
[04:06] <Xenguy> kondor21: nano is a relatively simple text editor
[04:06] <kondor21> Volker is vi easy?
[04:06] <Jrabbit> I'm on Dapper, I  downloaded Fiesty, how can I skip Edgy?
[04:06] <Xenguy> kondor21: dpkg -l nano
[04:06] <kondor21> VolkerOS is vi easy?
[04:06] <ki-eye> VolkerOS, it bombs out with a bunch of implicit declarations
[04:06] <rb007> kevcast: do you see the system menu at the top of your screen?
[04:06] <VolkerOS> kondor21: it's a simple text editor for non-gui
[04:06] <Xenguy> kondor21: will tell you if it is installed
[04:06] <kevcast> Yes.
[04:06] <VolkerOS> kondor21: it's what
[04:06] <rb007> kevcast: click there to open the menu... then hover over "preferences" to open another menu... then click on "Theme"
[04:06] <Jrabbit> I'm on Dapper, I  downloaded Fiesty, how can I skip Edgy?
[04:07] <Xenguy> VolkerOS: vi is not usually described as 'easy' =)
[04:07] <VolkerOS> kondor21: oops, it's the standard for redhat based systems and such
[04:07] <dyrne> Jrabbit: yes
[04:07] <kondor21> Xenguy, it wont I am on live CD
[04:07] <Xenguy> VolkerOS: tho it can be done of course :-)
[04:07] <StoneNote> rb007, # a2enmod rewrite [then]  # /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload
[04:07] <Jrabbit> How?
[04:07] <rb007> kevcast: then look for "clearlooks" -- it's what I'm using right now...  just a couple of clicks and you'll have it
[04:07] <VolkerOS> Xenguy: it's not hard... :)
[04:07] <Jrabbit> It fatal erros out
[04:07] <ki-eye> vi is easy.. after you've gotten the hang of it ;)
[04:07] <Xenguy> kondor21: I see
[04:07] <Jrabbit> dyrne: how'd you do it?
[04:07] <Xenguy> VolkerOS: I agree; it's the others that don't ;-)
[04:07] <[R] eaper> please help with ati, look here http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/885944
[04:07] <Jrabbit> dyrne: boot on to the live CD?
[04:07] <gdb> Jrabbit: by tossing what you downloaded and doing an in-place upgrade over the network
[04:07] <kondor21> Xenguy and I can not mount my hda1 from here :(
[04:07] <nosaj2> hey guys/gals how do you get to the stuff that you load under WINE?
[04:07] <rb007> StoneNote: I didn't understand that first part... what is the # a2enmod rewrite part?
[04:07] <gdb> you can't do an upgrade using the live cd
[04:07] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: i assume you've gone to larsen-b.com?
[04:08] <dyrne> Jrabbit: well i did sudo sed -i 's/dapper/feisty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list; sudo apt-get update
[04:08] <gdb> and there is no alternatives cd for an unreleased feisty
[04:08] <Cryoniq> Anyone got web feeds like cnn and other news pages web tv working in Ubuntu/firefox? Tried all but no luck with WMA and Realtime and quicktime on such pages. Work with google video and youtube and similiar sites though..
[04:08] <whileimhere> Is there a way to update the GTK-GNUTELLA to the newest version without having to compile it because I think that the newest version is in in synaptic but you need to enable something to get to it
[04:08] <StoneNote> rb007, using root (#) enter the command "a2enmod rewrite" and then press enter
[04:08] <dyrne> Jrabbit: then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:08] <Xenguy> kondor21: vi is on every *nix system, so worthwhile getting to know a little... for situations like this =)
[04:08] <StoneNote> rb007, try sudo a2enmod rewrite
[04:08] <VolkerOS> Xenguy: exactly
[04:08] <Xenguy> hehe
[04:08] <rb007> StoneNote: thanks... I thought you might have meant a comment in the apache2.conf file  :S
[04:08] <VolkerOS> kondor21: best alternative, and the default
[04:08] <StoneNote> rb007, np.
[04:09] <VolkerOS> kondor21: if you want a good book that explains vi "Linux in a Nutshell" is very useful
[04:09] <kondor21> Xenguy, thanks, i need to get a pen and write down where fstab resides becaus to be honest I do not know and guess I will need to for vi
[04:09] <Cryoniq> <--- Got Waite Group Unix* Handbook 1984 next to me all the time :P
[04:09] <Jrabbit> dyrne: no luck
[04:09] <Jrabbit> Absolutly nothing
[04:09] <ki-eye> VolkerOS, no.. I hadn't seen that, so I can just use the broadcom drivers?
[04:09] <Xenguy> kondor21: /etc/fstab
[04:09] <VolkerOS> kondor21: /etc/fstab
[04:09] <weepingdemon> where are my programs lijke firefox and openoffice stored at? ie. wheres the linux's equivelant of window's Program Files? at least in edgy/ubuntu
[04:09] <Cryoniq> That is.. the Unix Reference card.. with all Vi stuff :P
[04:10] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: try http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/103.html
[04:10] <dyrne> Jrabbit: what error?
[04:10] <rb007> StoneNote: thanks... that saved me hours... It worked...
[04:10] <Jrabbit> no error
[04:10] <kondor21> So, it will be  vi /etc/fstab
[04:10] <kondor21> oh
[04:10] <Jrabbit> jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:10] <Jrabbit> Reading package lists... Done
[04:10] <Jrabbit> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:10] <Jrabbit> Calculating upgrade... Done
[04:10] <Jrabbit> The following packages have been kept back:
[04:10] <Jrabbit>   build-essential dpkg-dev fakeroot g++ libc6-dev
[04:10] <Jrabbit> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[04:10] <kondor21> I mean,   sudo vi /ect/fstab
[04:10] <StoneNote> rb007, cool
[04:10] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: they have the commands there that should walk you through it...
[04:10] <royel> !pastebin | Jrabbit
[04:10] <ubotu> Jrabbit: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:10] <Jrabbit> I'm liking gdb's idea >_<
[04:11] <VolkerOS> kondor21: yea that should work
[04:11] <Jrabbit> Royel, not helping
[04:11] <ki-eye> VolkerOS, perfect, just what I was looking for..
[04:11] <ki-eye> thanks for the assist! =)
[04:11] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: awesome
[04:11] <kondor21> VolkerOS Xenguy many thanks, going to practise with vi in live before i ruin everything hehehe
[04:11] <ki-eye> now, let's see if we can get it working *g*
[04:12] <VolkerOS> ki-eye: it might have some bugs, but then again what linux wifi drivers dont...
[04:12] <VolkerOS> kondor21:  you're welcome
[04:12] <Jrabbit> dyrne: Any idea its Dappr not Edgy :\
[04:12] <yell0w> hey guys, has anyone tried ntfs-3g ?
[04:12] <chaz_> weepingdemon: they're in Home, which is inside Places, but they're hidden. You have to click an option in View for them to be shown.
[04:12] <VolkerOS> ALL: brb gonna go have a smoke
[04:12] <craigbass1976> Rather than have set-x scroll things by as you run a script, is there a way to get the output of set -x to jsut go into a text file?
[04:12] <dyrne> Jrabbit: well i just upgraded two boxes dapper --> feisty
[04:13] <Jrabbit> dyrne: Odd
[04:13] <dyrne> Jrabbit: gimme ssh access to your comp :)
[04:13] <Jrabbit> XD
[04:13] <Jrabbit> I might
[04:13] <dk> hey
[04:13] <Jrabbit> Its ngot no write access to my important files
[04:13] <dk> how do you find out if you are running gnome or kde?
[04:13] <Mena> How to set a link to trash to chage the icon when its full and empty on desktop?
[04:14] <kevman> Can somebody tell me what repo libartsc0 is in? Universe?
[04:14] <kitche> dk: look at the about for your WM
[04:14] <craigbass1976> dk, go to help in the "start" menu and see what help pops up
[04:14] <Jrabbit> dyrne: Serrious?
[04:14] <kevman> Becuase apt can't find it.
[04:14] <dyrne> Jrabbit: well i mean you have to give me sudo
[04:14] <weepingdemon> chaz_: i see only the programs settings in Home. where are the binaries?
[04:15] <dyrne> Jrabbit: im sure youll figure it out :)
[04:15] <dk> gnome
[04:15] <Pancakes> dkbg, I had a problem.
[04:15] <Jrabbit> dyrne: Thanks.
[04:15] <dk> thank you gentlemen and ladies
[04:15] <Jrabbit> dyrne: Much love.
[04:15] <Jrabbit> dyrne: I'll remove the added repo's
[04:15] <KNY> if I try and remove gaim, it says ubuntu-desktop is going to be removed as well; is that safe?
[04:15] <Jrabbit> no.
[04:15] <kevman> Can someone pastebin me a good sources.list that has universe and multiverse?
[04:16] <dyrne> !metapackage | KNY
[04:16] <ubotu> KNY: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[04:16] <kevman> I keep getting an error on apt-get update.
[04:16] <KNY> dyrne, so it's not anything to worry about?
[04:16] <dyrne> KNY: so its safe  but might mess up distupgrade
[04:16] <KNY> mmm
[04:16] <KNY> I'll not do it then
[04:17] <tom47> cannot play my serpentine audio cd in cdplayer .. works ok in a pc
[04:17] <[R] eaper>  any radeon x1600 owner here??
[04:17] <kevman> [R] eaper, yeah.
[04:17] <EdgEy> ! limewire
[04:17] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[04:17] <EdgEy> !frostwire
[04:17] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:17] <VolkerOS> ----back
[04:18] <[R] eaper> <kevman> do you have direct rendering ?
[04:18] <Pancakes> dkbg, are you there?
[04:18] <kevman> My apt-get update keeps failing to get Edgy/main Packages. It gives me this error: "not in gzip format"
[04:18] <kevman> [R] eaper, sure.
[04:18] <Meshezabeel> I think I found a bug in Edgy can someone help me confirm this?
[04:18] <kevman> Is there something wrong with the servers?
[04:19] <Jrabbit> I need to upgrade Dapper to Edgy
[04:19] <[R] eaper> <kevman>how did you get it?, i cant make it work
[04:19] <Jrabbit> I'm having issues
[04:19] <Pancakes> I just partitioned ubuntu, and when I try to start it..It says "Starting.." then it goes to a blinky "-" repeatily.
[04:19] <Reuben> mothersuperior: did as you said
[04:19] <kevman> [R] eaper, you need the ati drivers.
[04:19] <Reuben> showed results on a connection noted as 'ath0'
[04:19] <Meshezabeel> if I run xmodmap it shows Alt_L twice, can someone else run this and see if it happens for them too?
[04:19] <MukiEX-da> Is anyone getting a bug where the mouse cursor is in the wrong place?
[04:20] <[R] eaper> i have them, but my screen looks bad
[04:20] <kondor21> Ok guys, I will be back in 5 if this works.
[04:20] <dyrne> hes not coming back :)
[04:20] <VolkerOS> gooooo kondor!
[04:20] <EnsGabe> Hi- I'm trying to, while logged in to a remote machine, initialize an xserver on that machine to display on its monitor (this is a machine running Edgy.)  I have a barebones session in .xinitrc that I use when entering 'xinit' on the keyboard of the remote machine and that works fine
[04:20] <VolkerOS> fly with the wind
[04:20] <kevman>  I g2g, bbl.
[04:20] <tom47> my audio cd created in ubuntu does not play on cd player
[04:20] <royel> Meshezabeel: mod1        Alt_L (0x40),  Alt_L (0x7d),  Meta_L (0x9c)
[04:20] <Frogzoo> Meshezabeel: it depends on your keyboard & your keyboard layout
[04:21] <Pancakes> Darn lag
[04:21] <MukiEX-da> My mouse cursor is offfset really bad. I think the latest dist-upgrade is what foobared me.
[04:21] <EnsGabe> But logging in via ssh and doing the same thing yields: "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting." \n "xinit: Server error."
[04:21] <dyrne> EnsGabe: im not sure i know you can designate displays with xinit like xinit --:1   to launch
[04:21] <tom47> !audiocd
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audiocd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <bruenig> tom47, how did you burn it
[04:21] <ki-eye> so, madwifi says it comes with Edgy and should just work out of the box...
[04:21] <Lastent> hi i just reinstalled Ubuntu, and internet doesn't load automatly, i used to, so i don't know how to set it up, can you help me?
[04:21] <tom47> bruenig using serpentine
[04:21] <Pancakes> I just partitioned ubuntu, and when I try to start it..It says "Starting.." then it goes to a blinking "-" repeatily.
[04:22] <bruenig> tom47, well not that I have any idea why that would fail or not, but k3b always works for me
[04:22] <dyrne> Pancakes: did you install after you partitioned ;)
[04:22] <EnsGabe> dyrne: currently there's not xserver running on the machine.  The weird thing is, I perform the command at the keyboard of the laptop, and it works.  I do it over ssh, I get the above error.
[04:22] <tom47> bruenig ok yes will give it a whirl ty
[04:22] <Pancakes> dyrne, I installed while I partitioned, I htink.
[04:23] <[R] eaper> <kevman>i really need your help man, i have the latest ati drivers, but my screen doesn't look fine
[04:23] <Pancakes> All I know is that it won't work:/
[04:23] <Pancakes> Just does a blinking "-".
[04:23] <Meshezabeel> Frogzoo shouldn't this by Alt_R not Alt-L?
[04:24] <Reuben> regarding wifi problems on a laptop........
[04:24] <Meshezabeel> Frogzoo, I can't seem to use my right alt key because of it
[04:24] <MukiEX-da> I can't find anything on the forum regarding this mouse bug. I have no idea wtf to do. =(
[04:24] <royel> Meshezabeel: mine works
[04:25] <Meshezabeel> royel, your right ALt works?
[04:25] <royel> Meshezabeel: yes
[04:25] <Pancakes> Gosh lag.
[04:26] <Meshezabeel> hmmm, I wonder why my right Alt doesn't work
[04:26] <royel> Meshezabeel: maybe your Ralt key is broke, try a hammer :)
[04:26] <VolkerOS> lol
[04:26] <Meshezabeel> royel, lol, I can use it under windows
[04:26] <falkon_> okay, has ANYONE gotten aircrack working with the ipw2200 card?  I'm not even talking about packet injection, just monitoring so I can pull out an SSID of a hidden network
[04:26] <Pancakes> I just did the partition for ubuntu, and whenever I try to start it, I get a blinking "-".
[04:26] <royel> Meshezabeel: I know it's not funny, but I haven't a clue :(
[04:26] <VolkerOS> Meshezabeel: have you tried changing the keyboard layout?
[04:27] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: sounds like Grub didn't install correctly
[04:27] <royel> !grub | Pancakes
[04:27] <ubotu> Pancakes: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:27] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: or, you have another drive in the BIOS setup as primary
[04:27] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what do I need to do?
[04:27] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: do you have more than one drive?
[04:28] <Reuben> how do i get my wifi to work in linux?
[04:28] <Pancakes> Um
[04:28] <royel> !network | Reuben
[04:28] <ubotu> Reuben: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:28] <Pancakes> I have windows and ubuntu (recently tried to install)
[04:28] <VolkerOS> Pancakes:  are they on separate drives?
[04:28] <Pancakes> I don't know
[04:28] <Reuben> yes i was here earlier...i was told to try an iwconfig n get back
[04:28] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I get the choice for them and everything.
[04:28] <royel> VolkerOS: same drive, she resized her XP partition earlier
[04:29] <Meshezabeel> VolkerOS my keyboard is set as U.S. English
[04:29] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: i see
[04:29] <falkon_> Okay, how can I trap packets to get the SSID of a router that is not broadcasting SSID?
[04:29] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what should I do?
[04:29] <seamus7> Any recommendations as to backup programs ... I want to back up to an external USB hard drive. ???
[04:29] <dyrne> falkon_: kismet is easiest
[04:29] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: sounds like grub didn't install correctly
[04:29] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what should I do then?
[04:30] <falkon_> dyrne: just installed it.  Can it tell me what the ssid of a router not broadcasing ssid is?
[04:30] <Reuben> mepis didn't detect my card but knoppix did
[04:30] <VolkerOS> Pancakes:  just to make sure... are you on the computer right now? Or are you using another computer?
[04:30] <VolkerOS> ?
[04:30] <royel> VolkerOS: she probably didnt mean to do that :)
[04:30] <dyrne> falkon_: yeah just let it run it should discover ssid if there is traffic
[04:30] <VolkerOS> :) yea
[04:30] <falkon_> thanks
[04:31] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what should I do then?
[04:31] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: just to make sure, reboot your computer and go into your bios
[04:31] <falkon_> I'll see if it works. If I can't get it working, I have a nice IBM PCMCIA A/B/G card to try
[04:31] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, then what?
[04:31] <SoulPropagation> how do I redirect my display from my external monitor to my laptop panel
[04:31] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: you should see boot options, make sure that the drive you are using is right under the CD-rom as boot priority
[04:31] <Reuben> still couldn't log in and the adsl/ppoe didn't work
[04:32] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: just to make sure, this happens when GRUB is installed on another drive, which in most cases is not set as the primary boot drive
[04:32] <Stu_2> anyone have any luck with usb or pcmcia serial adapters for laptops and ubuntu?  I don't have one I'm trying to get to work, I'm in the market to get one that hopefully will work without too much of a struggle...
[04:32] <Pancakes> I'm a bit confused now.
[04:32] <gireesh> how does one configure nvidia in ubuntu? nvidia-glx-enable?
[04:32] <Kawaii-Panda> can anyone help me, gnome wont let me in. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2191908#post2191908
[04:32] <`Matir> Stu_2, like a RS-232 serial port?
[04:32] <Stu_2> Matir -- yessir.
[04:33] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, So I need to check if Ubuntu is primary?
[04:33] <VolkerOS> Pancakes:  sometimes when you install linux it installs the boot loader (GRUB) on another drive... this causes problems if that drive is not set to boot first in the bios
[04:33] <SoulPropagation> !effects | gireesh
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <`Matir> Stu_2, I have one based on a prolific pl-2303 chipset that works fine, plug and play
[04:33] <SoulPropagation> !#ubuntu-effects | gireesh
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <gireesh> hehe
[04:33] <dyrne> gireesh: ideally i think sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-xconfig; sudo nvidia-xconfig    i usually use the nvidia.sh install though so not sure
[04:33] <bruenig> SoulPropagation, that is not ubuntu-effects
[04:33] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: right
[04:33] <Stu_2> Matir- great, I'll look into it.  Thanks !
[04:33] <gireesh> err...let me ask is it broken in feisty?
[04:33] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I'll check
[04:33] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: are you on the computer running linux right now?
[04:33] <`Matir> Stu_2, no prob
[04:33] <LumberJoe> hello people i'm french and my "E" with the thigny on top "" displays something weird to ppl using wincrap... any help possible?
[04:34] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, if it isn't, what do I do
[04:34] <b0ri5> I have an nvidia card-MX400, do I need to install drivers for it?
[04:34] <Pancakes> VolkerOS I'm on the computer with it on it, yes
[04:34] <bruenig> !ati | b0r15
[04:34] <ubotu> b0r15: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:34] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: What are you using to write?
[04:34] <Pancakes> I'll be using windows more often, but I want to use linux some too
[04:34] <boosted> how do i change gnome lang ?
[04:34] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: the easiest way to resolve this issue would be to re-install, you could repair Grub (or reinstall) using a rescue CD, but it's a bit complicated
[04:34] <VolkerOS> boosted: at login prompt
[04:34] <b0ri5> how will installing the drivers help?-what will it improve?
[04:35] <MarkChristian> every time i log in i just see a blank screen of death with a gray window.
[04:35] <boosted> Ok
[04:35] <SoulPropagation> LumberJoe: looks fine to me, of course I'm on wingaim
[04:35] <boosted> Thanks
[04:35] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: Qu'utilise-tu pour chater?
[04:35] <VolkerOS> boosted: welcome
[04:35] <eros> Is there a way to create an audio CD with Amarok?
[04:35] <gireesh> b0ri5: it uses the video card to its fullest capacity
[04:35] <LumberJoe> theDebugger i'm using a violin! no kidding i'm using a pc-101 keyboard on a compaq laptop
[04:35] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: The application perhaps...
[04:35] <bruenig> eros, maybe through a plugin I have never heard of, but other than that no
[04:35] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what does it mean if it's 'primary'?
[04:35] <gireesh> you need hardware acceleration when playing games, using glitzy desktop effects
[04:35] <gireesh> etc
[04:35] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: On xchat?
[04:35] <eros> Thanks bruenig
[04:36] <VolkerOS> Pancakes:  if your drive is primary it means it's the first boot device, but that doesn't mean anything if it isn't setup correctly in the bios
[04:36] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: make sure you have this order in the bios: CD-Rom - Hard Drive - etc...
[04:37] <LumberJoe> TheDebugger yeah, xChat but the other day someone gave me a command that I typed in my terminal and everything went sweet after... (before I had to screw around until I gave up and re-installed, thanks to ATI)
[04:37] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I'll check:/
[04:37] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: CD first so you can boot from CD's, and then your primary drive as second on the list...
[04:37] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok let me know
[04:37] <Pancakes> Use the CD?
[04:37] <tom47> bruenig ty it worked
[04:37] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: Anyway..you got an encoding problem.. try : /charset iso-8859-15
[04:37] <Pancakes> I'll just see what it says then write it down
[04:37] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: no, it's the default setup, so if you ever need to rescue, or install another OS, you can just pop the cd in and it will boot the cd first...
[04:37] <Pancakes> bbs
[04:37] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok
[04:38] <tom47> bruenig k3b that is ...
[04:38] <bruenig> tom47, right good
[04:38] <SoulPropagation> how do I redirect my display from my external monitor to my laptop panel?
[04:38] <LumberJoe> TheDebugger that is exaclty what I was talking about! =) thanks dude...
[04:38] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: Pas de probleme mon champion
[04:38] <P235> what's the command for the terminal in gnome?
[04:38] <SoulPropagation> P235: gnome-terminal :p
[04:39] <P235> SoulPropagation, thanks
[04:39] <LumberJoe> hahaha, grand champion! internationalllll de course!!!! (3 accords sucks BTW)
[04:39] <SoulPropagation> no prob P235
[04:39] <TheDebugger> LumberJoe: Hahaha :) Tout nu sur la plagggeeeee, j'etais.. tout nue sur la plaggeee!
[04:39] <LumberJoe> t'es d'ou TheDebugger?
[04:39] <TheDebugger> Montreal :)
[04:39] <dyrne> SoulPropagation: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174  im lazy
[04:40] <SoulPropagation> thanks dyrne
[04:40] <LumberJoe> ok lol, moi avec mon nick tu peut deviner que chu un gars d'rgion :P j'viens du NB pis chu a quebec
[04:40] <TheDebugger> :D
[04:40] <VolkerOS> ubuntu french channel
[04:40] <TheDebugger> VolkerOS: #ubuntu-fr ?
[04:40] <TheDebugger> :)
[04:40] <VolkerOS> yep
[04:41] <royel> !fr | TheDebugger
[04:41] <ubotu> TheDebugger: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:41] <LumberJoe> VolkerOS, don't worry we're not backstabbin' anyone!
[04:41] <seamus7> What are some good ways of backing up to an external hard drive?
[04:41] <pavs_> I am root on a shell how do I see command history of another user?
[04:41] <LumberJoe> seamus7 drag and drop
[04:41] <LumberJoe> lol
[04:41] <seamus7> hee hee
[04:41] <shrndegruv_> hey how do i determine which hd in /dev is my windows partition?
[04:41] <dyrne> pavs_: cat /home/username/.bash_history  depending on the shell they use
[04:41] <shrndegruv_> so i can mount it and read the files....
[04:42] <kitche> shrndegruv: easy what hard drive is it on and partition
[04:42] <VolkerOS> LumberJoe: i know i understand french lol, can't speak it, but i can read it
[04:42] <yell0w> !ntfs
[04:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:42] <fiddo> hi there. im downloading desktop 6.1 version now. am i able to 'see/read text files' from a windows drive on the network with ubunto ?
[04:42] <shrndegruv_> i dont know im in linux now
[04:42] <yell0w> !fuse
[04:42] <shrndegruv_> so i dont remember which one windows is on
[04:42] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:42] <sha1sum> I have no safely remove hardware in my systray... anybody know how I can bring it up manually? or do I just unmount the external hd?
[04:42] <dyrne> pavs_: i int think ubuntu makes user dirs 700 or anything so you can do that without root
[04:42] <seamus7> LumberJoe: true .. what about programs that backup on a schedule?
[04:42] <Meshezabeel> What is the "Meta" key?
[04:42] <kitche> shrndegruv_: you can do fdisk -l as a regular user and should see it
[04:42] <Meshezabeel> on the keyboard?
[04:42] <sha1sum> Meshezabeel: alt
[04:42] <sha1sum> (on pcs)
[04:42] <TheDebugger> Meshezabeel: Most of the time, it's ALT
[04:42] <pavs_> dyrne
[04:42] <pavs_> root@pavs-desktop:/home/pavs# cat /home/mdross/.bash_history
[04:42] <pavs_> cat: /home/mdross/.bash_history: No such file or directory
[04:43] <shrndegruv_> lemme see
[04:43] <b0ri5> I have problems installing video card driver.
[04:43] <b0ri5> On the website it says: DO NOT install either package in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS because it will remove nvidia-glx. These programs are now provided in nvidia-glx.
[04:43] <SoulPropagation> dyrne: no, that's for merging. I just want to use my laptop's display; right now it's black-screened and the CRT shows my desktop
[04:43] <seamus7> Anyone do backups onto external hard drives and if yes what method do you use (dragndrop, tar, ???)
[04:43] <kondor21> Yeaaa, got my instalation back, thanks to those that helped me out
[04:44] <b0ri5> I ordered the CD, is it ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[04:44] <dyrne> SoulPropagation: well just switching is usually one of the laptop function keys
[04:44] <LumberJoe> seamus7 you can get a task scheduler of any kind and program it to do the following command  :    username@emplacement$ cp /home/emplacement/file.ext cp /media/drive/emplacement/file.ext.bkp
[04:44] <fiddo> thanks. is it possible to 'remote desktop' into ubuntu from win xP?
[04:44] <pavs_> seamus7 isnt tar just a compression format?
[04:44] <kitche> fiddo: yes vnc freenx
[04:44] <kondor21> b0ris, last I heard, they were still sending out 6.06 due to it having a longer support date
[04:44] <LumberJoe> fiddo yeah, use tightVNC on your linux box and realVNC on your wincrap
[04:45] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: what did you see?
[04:45] <shrndegruv_>  fdisk -l /dev/sda
[04:45] <shrndegruv_> Cannot open /dev/sda
[04:45] <dyrne> b0ri5: i just received 6.06 last week
[04:45] <pavs_> wincrap
[04:45] <kondor21> b0ri5, last I heard, they were still sending out 6.06 due to it having a longer support date
[04:45] <pavs_> lol
[04:45] <seamus7> pavs_: one backup thread explained how to tar / so that you could use it as a complete system backup
[04:45] <kitche> shrndegruv_: just fdisk -l it will output everything
[04:45] <b0ri5> ok, how do I install the driver then?
[04:45] <sha1sum> oh eject hehehe
[04:45] <shrndegruv_> yeah when i do that it outputs nothing
[04:45] <sha1sum> I'm a dumbass
[04:45] <timbe> who was the FreeNX guru in here? ;)
[04:45] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I got 1st [ATAPIC CD-ROM] , 2nd [Removable Dec] , 3rd [harddrive] , 4th [IBA 4.1.08 Slot 0140] 
[04:45] <Faust-C> bored
[04:45] <fiddo> kitche, ok cheers. so ill have to install vnc on XP to access it?
[04:45] <Faust-C> Hostname: arch - OS: Linux 2.6.20-ARCH/i686 - CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 4000+ (2410.965 MHz) - Processes: 95 - Uptime: 14h 56m - Load Average: 0.45 - Memory Usage: 311.42mb/1010.41mb (30.82%) - Disk Usage: 5.58gb/401.35gb (1.39%)
[04:46] <VolkerOS> Pancakes
[04:46] <kitche> fiddo: yeah I prefer freenx myself
[04:46] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: there is your problem, removable should not be second
[04:46] <dyrne> timbe: im about as far as you can get from guru but whats the problem? :)
[04:46] <KevinDupuy> Hi, sorry to just jump in but can any one point me to an explanation on how to get XGL/Desktop Effects on Edgy Eft? Thanks
[04:46] <Xenguy> timbe: you still here?  ;-)
[04:46] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what should it be?
[04:46] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: put your HD as second, and any other HD
[04:46] <Faust-C> yawn
[04:46] <timbe> Xenguy: yeah still kickin
[04:46] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: should be 3rd
[04:46] <Xenguy> heheh
[04:46] <kitche> !xgl | KevinDupuy
[04:46] <ubotu> KevinDupuy: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:46] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, tell me the exact order I should put
[04:46] <kondor21> b0ri5, 6.06 is supported till June 2009, where as 6.10 is supported till April 2008
[04:46] <Pancakes> I don't want to mess up:P
[04:47] <timbe> Xenguy:i got freenx up and kickin on the host
[04:47] <cmh0101> hello i'm having trouble with beryl causing the Gnome-Panel to freeze at startup, is there a refrence i can use to stop this?
[04:47] <pavs_> whats the command to see list of invisible files ie, the one with dot infront of them .bash_history
[04:47] <shrndegruv_> kitche when i do it without specifying device it does nothing
[04:47] <seamus7> Anyone do regular backups onto external hard drives? If yes, do you use any special program or just drag 'n drop?
[04:47] <LumberJoe> anyone's got a clue on making an image of my partition just like norton ghost would do with wincrap?
[04:47] <Gothfunc> hi.  compiling gdam, and it fails with: "gdasspatialstereo.c:73:1: error: pasting "->" and "lear" does not give a valid preprocessing token"... is it simply broken, or does anyone know of a fix?
[04:47] <Xenguy> timbe: and the client side?
[04:47] <b0ri5> ok, now how do I install the video card driver for Nvidia MX400??
[04:47] <kitche> shrndegruv_: you might need to sudo it
[04:47] <KevinDupuy> Thanks, ubotu
[04:47] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: rsync
[04:47] <Faust-C> tar
[04:47] <Faust-C> lol
[04:47] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: it should be CD - HD - etc..
[04:47] <shrndegruv_> stand by
[04:47] <Faust-C> KevinDupuy: its a bot btew
[04:47] <timbe> Xenguy: and I connect and auth just fine but it times out after this line
[04:47] <Xenguy> LumberJoe: partimage  ?
[04:47] <SoulPropagation> dyrne: that doesn't work, just blinks the screen on the CRT. I think it doesn't see the LCD
[04:47] <shrndegruv_> sweet
[04:47] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: the important thing is that HD should be second on the list, and any other HD should be third...
[04:47] <Pancakes> k
[04:48] <puki> be kool
[04:48] <shrndegruv_> now how to mount the windoze drive?
[04:48] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: that should work
[04:48] <Pancakes> So I would do CD > HD, Rem Dev, IBA
[04:48] <royel> Pancakes: -a should work
[04:48] <LumberJoe> ok guys that's like too much for me to handle at once, which one's the best partition snapshot software that has the best compression algorythm?
[04:48] <Faust-C> shrndegruv_: you should make a fat32 swap file to transfer files
[04:48] <Xenguy> timbe: ?
[04:48] <royel> Pancakes: sorry
[04:48] <Faust-C> shrndegruv_: ubunutu doenst support ntfs write
[04:48] <Pancakes> royel -a?
[04:48] <timbe> Xenguy: client is working fine... I'm just timing out after
[04:48] <royel> pavs_: -a should work
[04:48] <timbe> Xenguy:NX> 707 SSL tunneling: 1
[04:48] <timbe> /usr/lib/nx/nxserver: line 891: 11919 Terminated              ( sleep $AGENT_STARTUP_TIMEOUT; exit 1 )
[04:48] <timbe> NX> 105 NX> 504 Session startup failed.
[04:48] <shrndegruv_> i just need to read
[04:48] <Pancakes> Lol
[04:48] <timbe> sorry about the c&p
[04:48] <royel> Pancakes: meant for pavs
[04:48] <SoulPropagation> LumberJoe: gzip | dd
[04:49] <dyrne> LumberJoe: thats a dangerous question with alot of different answers :)
[04:49] <pavs_> royel tnx
[04:49] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: we dont do that kind of stuff in linux
[04:49] <b0ri5> ok, so I ran the command: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:49] <Faust-C> cause i find it pointless to backup the full hdd
[04:49] <b0ri5> its says command not found
[04:49] <Pancakes> k here I go VolkerOS
[04:49] <tritium> b0ri5: did you install nvidia-glx?
[04:49] <b0ri5> how?
[04:49] <Faust-C> lol
[04:49] <Faust-C> apt-get <app>
[04:49] <Xenguy> timbe: see, that's typical :-/  sshd has to be configured properly, and I once found that I had to revert to a previous freenx client (1.5?) instead of the newest one on their site
[04:50] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok let me know
[04:50] <tritium> !nvidida | b0ri5
[04:50] <shrndegruv_> Faust-C how do I do what you suggest?
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidida - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <SoulPropagation> can someone tell me how to get my laptop to recognize its LCD? It did until I got Beryl and friends running
[04:50] <b0ri5> I went to package manager, could not find that package
[04:50] <dyrne> i used to dd and pipe to gzip.
[04:50] <tritium> !nvidia | b0ri5
[04:50] <ubotu> b0ri5: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:50] <royel> VolkerOS: lol, love her exit message :)
[04:50] <LumberJoe> Faust-C I need to start doing that kind of stuff 'cause I suck at linux knowledge and ATI videocards TOTALY SUCK in this world and everytime I try to change something BOOOOM everything f***s up and even my xorg.conf backups doesn'T help sometimes
[04:50] <GuyFromHell> What's the ubuntu equivelent of running `dhcpcd eth1`?
[04:50] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: Pm
[04:50] <seamus7> LuberJoe: here's an ubuntu forum thread you might find helpful: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[04:50] <Faust-C> shrndegruv_: what are youtrying to do again
[04:50] <Xenguy> timbe: windows freenx client that is
[04:50] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: i help novice users
[04:50] <seamus7> LumberJoe: oops see my last entry
[04:50] <shrndegruv_> just mount my windows driver
[04:50] <pavs_> i created a user but forgot to give him -m own directory how do i assign a home directory to him now? since he doesnt have a home directory where does his history file is being saved?
[04:50] <shrndegruv_> so get some .java files off it
[04:51] <shrndegruv_> and docs
[04:51] <phoenixx> can anyone tell me how to get the Creative 24 bit External USB Sound Card to work properly?  And are there programs to control all of its functions including the SPDIF and Optical ports and recording functions, etc?
[04:51] <timbe> Xenguy: soo... should I remove my client and find an older one?
[04:51] <VolkerOS> LumberJoe: you're getting pwned...
[04:51] <Faust-C> shrndegruv_: idk w/ ubuntu srry my linux does that automagicly
[04:51] <timbe> god why can't i stop tinkering
[04:51] <b0ri5> I could not find any nvidia packages in package manager??
[04:51] <LumberJoe> HAHAHA LUBERJOE! that's a good one :P i like to make pink lube :D
[04:51] <shrndegruv_> idk?
[04:51] <Faust-C> b0ri5: lol
[04:51] <VolkerOS> b0r15: make sure you have the correct Repos
[04:51] <timbe> Xenguy: there's no real reason for me to have a vnc other than the cool factor haha
[04:51] <shrndegruv_> timbe i have that problem too
[04:51] <Faust-C> b0ri5: apt-get search <app>
[04:51] <slacker> !languages
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <slacker> !lang
[04:52] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: sudo mkdir /media/hda1;sudo mount -o remount,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1  will work prob
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lang - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <LumberJoe> seamus7, thanks a lot, that one's in my bookmarks =)
[04:52] <b0ri5> so I should run that in command prompt? (I'm a linux noob-just installed ubuntu)
[04:52] <royel> GuyFromHell: I could be wrong, tab completion only gives me "dhclient"
[04:52] <dyrne> !ntfs | shrndegruv_
[04:52] <ubotu> shrndegruv_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:52] <Faust-C> b0ri5: hmm
[04:52] <slacker> anyone here knows how to get only the .en/uk/us languages?
[04:52] <seamus7> LumberJoe: :)
[04:52] <Xenguy> timbe: only advice I can offer is google til you find the correct setup - meanwhile you can try vnc (make sure it is tunnelled over ssh) - there are lots of tutorials for ubuntu etc.
[04:52] <GuyFromHell> royel: aye, seems that way, I'm giving it a shot now
[04:52] <slacker> therefor removing all others...
[04:52] <GuyFromHell> royel: thanks
[04:52] <Faust-C> why do novice users pick ubuntu ..
[04:52] <royel> GuyFromHell: yw
[04:52] <b0ri5> free cd's?
[04:52] <Xenguy> timbe: I did a *lot* of googling over freenx :-)
[04:53] <slacker> Faust-C: because its a great system to work on?
[04:53] <tritium> Faust-C: easy of use
[04:53] <Faust-C> b0ri5: i use em for coastes :)
[04:53] <VolkerOS> Faust-C:  Probably cause its simple interface
[04:53] <Xenguy> timbe: but it can work - in the meantime there is vnc
[04:53] <timbe> Xenguy: thanks for all the help I really appreciate it
[04:53] <Xenguy> timbe: my pleasure
[04:53] <Faust-C> VolkerOS: simple doesnt mean easy
[04:53] <Faust-C> tritium: and easy lol
[04:53] <timbe> I love the ubuntu community
[04:53] <seamus7> Faust-C: same reason people who just want to get from point a to point b pick reliable cars... reliability.
[04:53] <b0ri5> lol, now I should run that command, replace app with nvidia?
[04:53] <Faust-C> slacker: and great how
[04:53] <Xenguy> timbe: check out x11vnc BTW
[04:53] <Faust-C> seamus7: that isnt true w/ ubuntu
[04:53] <Faust-C> b0ri5: yes
[04:53] <timbe> Xenguy: will do
[04:53] <vnux> I'm looking for help about how to switch to wlan-ng on edgy from hostap/orinoco
[04:54] <vnux> where should I go?
[04:54] <Faust-C> ubuntu has had more issues that i have toliet paper to wipe my ass w/
[04:54] <seamus7> Faust-C: yet that's how people new to Linux perceive it.
[04:54] <Xenguy> timbe: you run that as a server, then vnc into it (it can be configured to run over ssh of course - I just don't remember how ATM :-)
[04:54] <craigbass1976> timbe, I'd have to agree.  Of all the distros whose chats I have visited, ubuntu seems to be the more user friendly.
[04:54] <Faust-C> seamus7: well thats just a lie honestly
[04:54] <VolkerOS> all linux distros are good, what you are gonna use it for is what makes the difference... me as long as i have a console i'm happy
[04:54] <Faust-C> and when i came into linux i quickly went to something else
[04:54] <b0ri5> I got this:
[04:54] <b0ri5> admin@admin-desktop:~$ apt-get search nvidia
[04:54] <b0ri5> E: Invalid operation search
[04:54] <tritium> Faust-C: watch the language, please
[04:54] <pavs_> i created a user but forgot to give him -m own directory how do i assign a home directory to him now? since he doesnt have a home directory where does his history file is being saved?
[04:54] <seamus7> Faust-C: I think what you meant to say is "you're right"
[04:54] <Faust-C> tritium: ok whatever
[04:54] <slacker> Faust-C: ease of use, as said earlier
[04:54] <royel> Faust-C: the biggest reason, IMO.. the large community makes it appealing because of the support participation. nothing worse than using a distro that has a small community to frustrate someone who cant find that person who can help.
[04:54] <timbe> craigbass1976: amen to that
[04:54] <craigbass1976> timbe, fedora is a close second, but they get pissy sometimes when I don't think they should.
[04:54] <Faust-C> lol
[04:54] <quintin> b0ri5: apt-cache search, genius
[04:54] <Ferret> b0ri5: apt-cache search
[04:54] <Faust-C> royel: whatever as i see and you all do
[04:54] <TheDebugger> quintin: Friendly :)
[04:55] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, It didn't work.
[04:55] <quintin> Why did ubuntu get rid of my dual proc kernel?  wtf?
[04:55] <Faust-C> new users dont really know how to maintain thir systems
[04:55] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: huh
[04:55] <pavs_> Fausr-C if you dont like ubuntu what are you doing here?
[04:55] <LumberJoe> i'm happy with ubuntu who made me discover that linux isn't that hard and now i'm looking for the tools, books and websites that can make me a Guru... anyone's got hints?
[04:55] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: did it give you any error?
[04:55] <timbe> craigbass1976: I'm not a big redhat family man...hah but I have heard "good" things
[04:55] <Pancakes> When I pressed enter on ubuntu, it just when to that blinking "-" again.
[04:55] <dyrne> quintin: dont let it push you around
[04:55] <Faust-C> also if you install one ver of ubuntu the only way to upgrade is to get the new ISO
[04:55] <slacker> btw, I came here for a question, how can I tell ubuntu to have only one language, is it the obvious, remove all languages?
[04:55] <VolkerOS> ok
[04:55] <vnux> pavs, sounds like a troller
[04:55] <Faust-C> soo
[04:55] <tritium> Faust-C: not true
[04:55] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: PM
[04:55] <royel> Faust-C: I'm sorry, your statement confused me?
[04:55] <bobbyyu> Is the Alternate Install Disc a way to upgrade your Ubuntu?
[04:55] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: if you want to really learn ill help
[04:55] <Xenguy> timbe: bah - that's where I started - after debian/etc. you never go back :-)
[04:55] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: are you getting the bootloader from windows or grub?
[04:55] <royel> !upgrade | Faust-C
[04:55] <ubotu> Faust-C: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:55] <b0ri5> would nvidia-kernel-common work?
[04:55] <tritium> Faust-C: you can upgrade from one release to the next easily
[04:56] <craigbass1976> timbe, it's what I've cut my teeth on (fedora and cent) but ubuntu has SO much stuff available.
[04:56] <tritium> b0ri5: for what?
[04:56] <Faust-C> tritium: i use a distro that does roll release
[04:56] <TheDebugger> b0r15: The nvidia driver is nvidia-glx
[04:56] <Faust-C> so its way easier
[04:56] <Lasse_> Is there a way of dragging windows/applications between desktops ? Or do I have to right-click and the "move to desktop x" ?
[04:56] <VolkerOS> fedora and cent are server OS
[04:56] <b0ri5> I just need a nvidia driver
[04:56] <timbe> Xenguy: same here they had us install redhat in our sys admin class...I jus recently switched from gentoo
[04:56] <Pancakes> Um VolkerOS, I just get a black screen with a table, and it has the ubuntu stuff, then as Other Operating Systems: Windows Xp Home edition.
[04:56] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok
[04:56] <quintin> Really, why did I not get a dual cpu kernel when I upgraded? that's frikking stupid.
[04:56] <tritium> Faust-C: no need to spread FUD here.  You're not telling the truth about ubuntu release upgrades
[04:56] <SoulPropagation> Lasse_: there might be with beryl
[04:56] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: can i PM you
[04:56] <Xenguy> timbe: gentoo gives me shivers too ;-)  I'm way too lazy for that
[04:56] <craigbass1976> VolkerOS, except fedora has such a short life span that it doesn't make sense ot me to use it for a server.
[04:56] <royel> Faust-C: quit trolling an move on
[04:56] <Faust-C> tritium: well im not telling a lie either
[04:57] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: try editing the string which you are booting from and put this at the end "noapic" without the ""
[04:57] <Faust-C> royel: im not
[04:57] <SoulPropagation> Gentoo makes me soil myself
[04:57] <GionnyBoss> Lasse_, Ctrl + Alt + Shift + arrows moves the window in other workspaces... to drag it, use Beryl
[04:57] <Lasse_> SoulPropagation: I dont like compiz or beryl --- they eat away my limited resources ;)
[04:57] <VolkerOS> craigbass1976: that's cause it's a test bed for redhat
[04:57] <craigbass1976> I'm running FC5 right now on my laptop until I get around to putting Dapper on.
[04:57] <pavs_> Fausr-C maybe you dont realize that this channel is for helping out new users mainly. If you wont help, or dont need any I am sure you wine about your sorrows somewhere else :)
[04:57] <LumberJoe> Faust-C go ahead! pm me!
[04:57] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I don't know what you mean.
[04:57] <timbe> Xenguy: lazy is what I live by. ;)
[04:57] <facugaich> Lasse_, you can grab them in the workspace switcher
[04:57] <Xenguy> !distribution wars
[04:57] <Faust-C> LumberJoe: ok
[04:57] <TheDebugger> pavs: What are you doing with your graphic card when you're nnot playing a game?
[04:57] <tritium> Faust-C: stay on topic, please.  You're lowering the SNR here.
[04:57] <Faust-C> ok thx for the laughs
[04:57] <Faust-C> and i could care less tritium
[04:57] <Xenguy> timbe: it's one of the sysadmin virtures, isn't it?  :-)
[04:57] <TheDebugger> pavs: beryl is not hard on the CPU
[04:57] <royel> tritium: lol, nicely put!
[04:57] <craigbass1976> Xenguy, I'm not trying to start trouble, honest.
[04:57] <Xenguy> timbe: er, virtues
[04:57] <StoneNote> Faust-C, I've moved from Breezy to Dapper to Edgy to Feisty without resorting to an iso
[04:58] <Lasse_> facugaich: where is that ? :)
[04:58] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok, when you select what you are gonna boot, you should see a set of options at the bottom
[04:58] <seamus7> bobbyyu: I used it when i wanted to have greater access to certain features... as I was planning a dual boot with Windows I had read that the Alternate CD would allow me to have more options when choosing how to set up the boot screen (Grub/MBR).
[04:58] <Lasse_> facugaich: or is that in Beryl ?
[04:58] <facugaich> Lasse_, bottom right corner in Gnome
[04:58] <Xenguy> craigbass1976: hrm?
[04:58] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: i can't remember clearly but one should be "extra options" or something similar
[04:58] <Pancakes> It doesn't have anything like that
[04:58] <craigbass1976> Xenguy, forget it, I thought the distro war comment was at me
[04:58] <Pancakes> It has ubuntu
[04:58] <Pancakes> Then recovery
[04:58] <Pancakes> And some mem test
[04:58] <timbe> Xenguy: hah yes it is. I just went full linux on everything except for my work comp. to force me to not have so many distractions with ruby....but here I am fiddling with vnc's
[04:58] <quaal> how do you update the locate command
[04:58] <Lasse_> facugaich: neat! guess that'll do :) Thank you very much!
[04:59] <pavs_> I wasnt talking about beryl...
[04:59] <shrndegruv_> i used mount -a /dev/device /mnt/win_c
[04:59] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: should be F5
[04:59] <shrndegruv_> and it worked
[04:59] <TheDebugger> quaal: sudo updatedb
[04:59] <k-w> just upgraded to 7.04 on my HP nx6325 - just works great, even can play enemy territory. hibernation etc. great!
[04:59] <facugaich> Lasse_, you welcome :)
[04:59] <dyrne> quaal: or sudo locate -u
[04:59] <Pancakes> After F5 what do I do?
[04:59] <quaal> TheDebugger, thanks
[04:59] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok give me a sec let me get some screenshots to refresh my mem
[04:59] <Xenguy> timbe: haha - install cygwin on your d0ze box at work too :-)
[04:59] <seamus7> bobbyyu: I think that the alternate CD also is easier to use if you have an older computer as it installs via text-mode whereas the live cd is a more intensive graphical installation
[04:59] <timbe> Xenguy: too late haha
[04:59] <Xenguy> timbe: excellent =)
[04:59] <StoneNote> tritium, what is SNR?
[05:00] <TheDebugger> Saturday Night Raccoon?
[05:00] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: click on this http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=751&slide=1
[05:00] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: is that what you see?
[05:00] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: or something similar?
[05:00] <tritium> StoneNote: Signal-to-Noise Ratio
[05:00] <pavs_> I wasnt talking about beryl...
[05:00] <pavs_> Fausr-C maybe you dont realize that this channel is for helping out new users mainly. If you wont help, or dont need any I am sure you wine about your sorrows somewhere else :)
[05:00] <StoneNote> tritium, thx. I shoulda known that :D
[05:00] <Pancakes> I can't get site to load, I'm lagging.
[05:00] <seamus7> Anyone here do regular backups to an external hard drive?
[05:00] <pavs_> lol
[05:00] <pavs_> mistake
[05:00] <tritium> pavs_: he's out of here...
[05:01] <timbe> Xenguy:indeed! again thanks for the point in the right direction.. I'm out of here for now
[05:01] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok no worries, when you boot up you should have grub come up with the list you mentioned
[05:01] <royel> Pancakes: back so soon!?
[05:01] <Xenguy> timbe: cheers
[05:01] <Pancakes> Yes:(
[05:01] <vnux> how do I change the module used by my PCMCIA WLAN card?
[05:01] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: if you click on F6 you should get further options
[05:01] <pavs_> tritium sorry mistake
[05:01] <tritium> ;)
[05:01] <dyrne> if youre installing ubuntu try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/  and let me know how it goes :)
[05:01] <vnux> uh
[05:01] <vnux> a .exe of ubuntu!?
[05:01] <Xenguy> careful
[05:02] <dyrne> installing from windows i mean
[05:02] <vnux> jeez didn't know it was possible
[05:02] <jmworx> Can anyone tell my what's the x-session-manager process supposed to do and why it's eating 319M of RAM at the moment?
[05:02] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I thought you wanted me to press F4?
[05:02] <Pancakes> 5*
[05:02] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: couldn't remember what key it was
[05:02] <royel> tritium: gotta say, it wasn't a moment too soon either, I was a few seconds from /ignore faust-c
[05:02] <Xenguy> jmworx: kill it - you know you want to =)
[05:02] <vnux> bah...thers no point doing that, I tried that kind of stuff years ago on mandrake 7.1
[05:02] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, and what will I need to replace?
[05:02] <vnux> linux4win.exe I think
[05:02] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: it's F6, F5 is accessibility
[05:03] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: ok you should see a few options
[05:03] <tritium> royel: yeah, it was justified, I'd say
[05:03] <VolkerOS> Pancakes:if i remember clearly
[05:03] <jmworx> Xenguy: Thanks, that helps a lot. Dapper's much less bloated in console mode anyway.
[05:03] <royel> tritium: he was clearly trolling
[05:03] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, what will I do with these options?
[05:03] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: give me just one sec... since i'm on BSD right now i can't confirm
[05:04] <Xenguy> jmworx: mwaha :-)
[05:04] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: give me a sec, gonna get on a colleagues computer who is running ubuntu
[05:04] <Pancakes> k
[05:04] <mindstate> is there anyway to change the background color of the xfce4 panel?
[05:04] <royel> VolkerOS: wow, a BSD user without the Beastie attitude.. <gasp> :)
[05:04] <Dr_willis> its a trick :)
[05:04] <Xenguy> royel: impossible
[05:04] <TheDebugger> I'm a BSD user too :D
[05:05] <Xenguy> gasp
[05:05] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: got it, when you boot you get your list right?
[05:05] <hendrixski> hey, has anyone here ever set up multilingual support in Firefox?
[05:05] <Xenguy> :-)
[05:05] <jmworx> Still great isn't it. a few terminals, a few editors, gaim and xchat -- yet Dapper's currently taking a nice 1 GB worth of memory+swap (*excluding* disk buffers). That's without firefox/thunderbird open.
[05:05] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, yeah I get a list.
[05:05] <royel> I have a partition with BSD, but I certainly dont have enough arrogance to keep up with it :)
[05:05] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: the first option should be the kernel installed, highlight it and press "e" to edit the string
[05:05] <Xenguy> jmworx: time to switch distributions man ;-)
[05:05] <jmworx> Probably someone at Canonical felt like making Vista look small :-)
[05:06] <Mena> How to set a link to trash to chage the icon when its full and empty on desktop?
[05:06] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: you should get a long string, scroll to the very end of the string, and type this: noapic all together
[05:06] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: "noapic" no ""
[05:06] <Xenguy> jmworx: I think grabbing a lot of memory may be a deliberate strategy of the kernel these days...
[05:06] <pavs_> as a root is there a way to "follow" a user and see what he is doing without letting him now like last command or the files he editing
[05:06] <bruenig> Mena, ?an icon that empties the trash
[05:06] <royel> Mena: it should already do that?
[05:06] <bruenig> hmmm how did that happen
[05:06] <Xenguy> jmworx: could be wrong as I'm no kernel-hacker, but I've picked up that impression from running top enough times :-)
[05:06] <jmworx> Xenguy: The kernel isn't grabbing memory, the applications are, including x-session-manager which is leaking memory like crazy.
[05:06] <Pancakes> VolkerOS type it exactly
[05:07] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: yea, noapic
[05:07] <Xenguy> jmworx: dapper?
[05:07] <Pancakes> So I do "noapic" no "" <--- That exactly?
[05:07] <shrndegruv_> i cant change permissions of an ntfs filesystem so non-root users can see it?
[05:07] <Pancakes> With all the quotes and everything
[05:07] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: right
[05:07] <royel> bruenig: I believe he/she means, when there is trash it changes the icon to reflect it's got contents
[05:07] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: no qoutes
[05:07] <jmworx> Xenguy: the kernel will use all available memory for *disk buffers*, the the 1 GB I'm reporting excludes that.
[05:07] <Mena> royel, no it doesnt iam on kubuntu but i cant find answer there
[05:07] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: just noapic
[05:07] <bruenig> noted
[05:07] <Pancakes> So: noapic no
[05:07] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: i gave you the umask option
[05:07] <hendrixski> I'm coming in halfway into the conversation here....
[05:07] <Xenguy> jmworx: well, your course is clear - you need to switch to debian etch =)
[05:07] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: noapic
[05:07] <hendrixski> is this about Ubuntu BSD??
[05:07] <jmworx> Xenguy: Dapper LTS, yes. Long Time to get Support.
[05:07] <royel> Mena: oh, try in #kubuntu .. we all use gnome here
[05:07] <Pancakes> Just?: noapic
[05:07] <hendrixski> if there is such a thing>
[05:07] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: right
[05:08] <shrndegruv_> dyrne i missed it can i see it again?
[05:08] <Xenguy> jmworx: see my recommendation above
[05:08] <Pancakes> I replace that with the first option that says kernal?
[05:08] <doojin> hi
[05:08] <Pancakes> Or has that in it
[05:08] <derick_> please provide me sources for wxpython, Thanks!
[05:08] <MarkCDL>  can anyone help me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2192256#post2192256
[05:08] <Mena> royel, i know but no answer there so i guess if i can find answer here ^_^
[05:08] <jmworx> Xenguy: Actually, if I had the time it takes to set things properly, I'd be running sid.
[05:08] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: no, you edit the string and type in noapic at the end of it
[05:08] <MarkCDL> gnome wont start.
[05:08] <Mena> :)
[05:08] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab   under the options column change defaults to defaults,umask=000 no space and save. thats one way
[05:08] <royel> Mena: oh, an I didnt read your statement completely, maybe use the forums, or search the community docs . sorry
[05:08] <Pancakes> k VolkerOS
[05:08] <Pancakes> I'll go see
[05:08] <doojin> Anyone knows how to fix usplash which only chooses and fills 800x600 resolution on the left top of 1024x768 screen?
[05:08] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: don't erase anything on the string just type noapic at the end
[05:08] <Xenguy> jmworx: that is perfectly feasable (tho probably not in production :-)
[05:09] <dimeotane> any suggestions for games (not opengl though)
[05:09] <Pancakes> WIth a space
[05:09] <Pancakes> After the current thing
[05:09] <Pancakes> Right?
[05:09] <Mena> royel, ok :)
[05:09] <Lurner> I just installed the program Minicom , through the synaptic package manager. I can find the executable in the file system but I can't see that is was installed in the launcher thing.. how do I start the program Minicom once it's installed ?
[05:09] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: right, <space> noapic
[05:09] <dyrne> dimeotane: well tremulous(online strategy fps), wesnoth(like might and magic)
[05:09] <Pancakes> So blahblah kernal blah blah noapic
[05:09] <VolkerOS> right
[05:09] <Pancakes> k
[05:09] <jmworx> Xenguy: Sid's great for a development workstation. Just takes a long time to set up (which I don't have).
[05:09] <Pancakes> And I press F6.
[05:09] <dimeotane> (other than 3d opengl
[05:09] <Pancakes> Alright, here I go.
[05:09] <royel> Pancakes: good luck!
[05:09] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: k
[05:10] <jmworx> Ubuntu would be nice if people could just fix the bugs.
[05:10] <dyrne> dimeotane: trem is opengls though
[05:10] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: may tux be with you
[05:10] <shrndegruv_> whoa whats all that uuid stuff in there
[05:10] <phaedra> Lurner, minicom is text mode.  run it from a console.
[05:10] <Pancakes> If I return soon, it's bad news :(
[05:10] <quaal> why is it that beryl is still on my computer when i've sudo apt-get remove beryl
[05:10] <Lurner> oh thanks
[05:10] <royel> Pancakes: you have to come back to tell us if it works ..
[05:10] <jmworx> One wonders what's launchpad for -- except maybe for documentation purposes...
[05:10] <ki-eye> so, I found the wireless tools I need, but now I can't seem to get the other ethernet card to work
[05:10] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: that option won't hurt your system if it doesn't work, but if it does we have to make it permanent
[05:10] <hendrixski> quick question: language support in Firefox...can someone point me to a manual?
[05:10] <Pici> !lp
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <dimeotane> tremulous and enemy territory are the best ubuntu games IMHO.. .but I'm looking for stuff that can run on a P2
[05:10] <Xenguy> jmworx: I migrated one desktop workstation recently, and it took me about a week of evenings to get my box back :-)
[05:10] <ki-eye> need some way to get the drivers on the #%*#$ box
[05:10] <tritium> jmworx: the same argument would apply, then, to debian
[05:10] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: ignore it. ubuntu uses uuid instead of hda1 etc these days you can remove and put partition if you want
[05:10] <VolkerOS> brb gotta use the jogn
[05:10] <VolkerOS> jon
[05:11] <Xenguy> jmworx: a lot of little details accrue over time
[05:11] <tritium> jmworx, Xenguy: please stay on topic, or move your ubuntu-bashing discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:11] <shrndegruv_> ok thanx
[05:11] <shrndegruv_> i have to restart for it to work?
[05:11] <Xenguy> tritium: there has been no attempt on my part to bash ubuntu - I only support it actually
[05:11] <hendrixski> does anyone have spellchecking in two langauges?
[05:12] <tritium> Xenguy: then please stay on topic
[05:12] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: or sudo umount /media/whatever  then sudo mount -a
[05:12] <Savage-{> anybody know if Quicken 2007 runs fine in windows xp with online banking under vmware ok?
[05:12] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: you basically have to remount it
[05:12] <jmworx> tritium: I'm not bashing Ubuntu, I'd like it to improve since that's what I'm running. But the truth is that few bugs are ever being fixed. Even security related stuff (I can back it up).
[05:12] <Xenguy> tritium: I believe I was addressing concerns an ubuntu user had with dapper recently - to me that is definitely on topic (with a little humour mixed in of course :-)
[05:12] <hendrixski> Savage:  My assumption would be yes
[05:12] <Frogzoo> Savage-{: why wouldn't it? but that's a windows issue really
[05:13] <hendrixski> my experience with VMware is that Everything works
[05:13] <Savage-{> sometimes things don't work right
[05:13] <Lurner> I opened a terminal windows. then    cd /usr/bin   then minicom and I got the message cannot open/dev/tty8  how can I pre-configure Minicom to open the modem or the serial port ?
[05:13] <hendrixski> Savage: like what?
[05:13] <Savage-{> something to do with the vmware drivers on some apps
[05:13] <Savage-{> I'm trying to remember
[05:13] <gop> !usenet
[05:13] <maxagaz> is there a deb somewhere for sopcast ?
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usenet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <tritium> jmworx: with each release starting as a snapshot of debian sid, then you're also saying that few bugs in debian are ever being fixed
[05:13] <Savage-{> I tried to use something one time and it didn't work under vmware
[05:13] <Gothfunc> i've just installed jre, and the 'jar' command doesn't seem to exist.  how do i run jar files?
[05:13] <gop> !newsgroup
[05:13] <ubotu> There are Ubuntu newsgroups via NNTP at news.gmane.org
[05:14] <hendrixski> Savage, quicken doesn't use drivers as far as I know
[05:14] <VolkerOS> Gothfunc: java
[05:14] <Frogzoo> Savage-{: the biggest issue is the limited memory space of a vm
[05:14] <humblerodent> Hi, I have installed my NVidia driver using the official install file instead of the .deb from the repos.  It works fine, but each time I reboot the computer, X will not start unless I reinstall the driver....anyone know what could be causing this?  TIA
[05:14] <gop> what a good ubuntu gnome client for newsgroup
[05:14] <Lurner> I know a lot about usenet but I can't find the orginal question.. who asked what. you can pvt msg me
[05:14] <doojin> Does anybody know how to make usplash choose to draw at 1024x768?
[05:14] <Frogzoo> gop: pan
[05:14] <jmworx> tritium: What I mean is that bugs are reported against Dapper (and Edgy) and are never being fixed.
[05:14] <gop> !pan
[05:14] <Savage-{> damn I can't remember
[05:14] <VolkerOS> Gothfunc: java <command>
[05:14] <ubotu> pan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component main, is optional. Version 0.14.2.91-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 3616 kB
[05:14] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: i thought it should go jar -i installation-file.jar
[05:14] <Savage-{> i'll try it I guess
[05:14] <gop> thanks
[05:14] <phaedra> Lurner, You don't have to cd to any dir.  Configure minicom as root first...  jJust sudo minicom
[05:14] <Gothfunc> or something
[05:15] <hendrixski> jmworx:  you can open a case with Ubuntu support and getany bug moved up to the top of the list
[05:15] <Frogzoo> jmworx: a lot of the bugs can only be fixed upstream, but the bug reports are forwarded upstream
[05:15] <VolkerOS> Gothfunc: did you try java?
[05:15] <jmworx> tritium: Some are actually not in sid, like the "feature" that allows any local user with no priviledge to crash a Dapper (and Edgy I think) machine. Been reported 6 months ago or so. Not fixed to this date.
[05:15] <shrndegruv_> what about dump and pass columns in fstab?
[05:15] <royel> tritium: jmworx: take it to offtopic :)   .... j/k please dont kick me :)
[05:15] <hendrixski> Grogzoo:  Ubuntu works with upstream dev's too from what I understand
[05:15] <shrndegruv_> /dev/sda2       /media/win_c    ntfs    defaults,umask=000      0       0
[05:15] <Lurner> oh that worked.. cool.. thanks.
[05:15] <shrndegruv_> thats what i have right now
[05:15] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: yes... Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: UltraMixer-2/0/11-linux/jar
[05:15] <Lurner> who had that usenet question ?
[05:15] <tritium> royel: ;)
[05:15] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: thatll work   0  0 is fine
[05:16] <TheDebugger> humblerodent: Try adding "nvidia" to /etc/modules
[05:16] <VolkerOS> Gothfunc: jar -x?
[05:16] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: jar doesn't exist
[05:16] <hendrixski> I still want to know if anyone has configured spellchecking in multiple languages in Firefox?
[05:16] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: though i have a feeling it SHOULD
[05:16] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: perhaps i need to restart? :s
[05:16] <shrndegruv_> sweet that worked
[05:16] <jmworx> Frogzoo: Many bugs are not upstream. Or if they are (e.g. I'm maintaining Speex), the update won't ever make it despite the patch being submitted *before* the release of Dapper!
[05:16] <VolkerOS> Gothfunc: did you check that it was installed?
[05:16] <shrndegruv_> dyrne -- thanx
[05:17] <Pancakes> My computer hates me;(
[05:17] <smo> hi
[05:17] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: np
[05:17] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: jre is installed... surely jar comes with that? i can't find jar seperately
[05:17] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: any luck?
[05:17] <Pancakes> Afraid not
[05:17] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: any erros?
[05:17] <shrndegruv_> /dev/sda3           11706       12161     3662820   db  CP/M / CTOS / ..
[05:17] <shrndegruv_> what is that?
[05:17] <VolkerOS> errors*
[05:17] <pavs_> how to kick a user from shell
[05:17] <SoulPropagation> Jewfro-Macabbi: You're on IRC from your mobile?!
[05:17] <jmworx> hendrixski: How do I get a bug moved up the list?
[05:17] <royel> pavs_: kill their tty
[05:18] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: not sure :/
[05:18] <shrndegruv_> and whats hpfs?
[05:18] <ki-eye> note to self.. network card doesn't work so well when not seated in moboard
[05:18] <Xenguy> pavs_: slay
[05:18] <StoneNote> jmworx, sorry but your whole rant reminds me of the guy who was complaining how unstable his bxo had gotten and when I asked what he was running he replied "Windows 95".  Eventually the fixes aren't sent back down the chain and if you want them, you need to upgrade to the newest release. windows, linux, bsd. it applies to all of them.
[05:18] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, just the same mystery blinking dash of doom:/
[05:18] <hendrixski> jmworx: if you open a case they can give a bug more priority, after all, you're paying for it.  Just ask them :)
[05:18] <pavs_> slay?
[05:18] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: trying to think what could be the cause...
[05:18] <Jewfro-Macabbi> SoulPropagation, it's my primary connection, even dial up doesn't work out here....
[05:18] <pavs_> how do i find their tty i only pts/0 and pts/1
[05:18] <Xenguy> pavs_: apt-get install slay
[05:19] <dyrne> shrndegruv_: a file system but.. i dont know why its there
[05:19] <shrndegruv_> wierd
[05:19] <smo> anyone here tried vista?? i have (again) problems with it to make shares between my ubuntu and vista...
[05:19] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I think I should try deleting the partition then trying agian
[05:19] <Xenguy> pavs_: kills users based on userid IIRC
[05:19] <Pancakes> again*
[05:19] <SoulPropagation> Jewfro-Macabbi: wireless DUN? Or are you texting us
[05:19] <StoneNote> smo, not me.
[05:19] <pavs_> getting slay now
[05:19] <royel> StoneNote: not to argue, but Dapper is supposed to have LTS, which means bugs, security etc.. upgrading should not be required as there is no new LTS release yet
[05:19] <shrndegruv_> its taking up less than 500 blocks
[05:19] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: that would be the last thing to do, but that would for sure clear the problem... i'm thinking if grub is reading the correct partition
[05:19] <shrndegruv_> so i dont worry
[05:19] <shrndegruv_> maybe unused space
[05:19] <smo> k stone
[05:19] <jmworx> hendrixski: No, I'm not paying for it. I just thought I'd help by trying to fix year-old bugs and things like that.
[05:19] <bobbyyu> How do I use the ubotu
[05:19] <StoneNote> royel, Dapper 6.06 LTS does.  Dapper 6.10 does not.
[05:20] <Jewfro-Macabbi> SoulPropagation, I'm dialing into EDGE using a USB cable and the phone's built in modem.
[05:20] <pavs_> slay is awesome worked :)
[05:20] <Xenguy> pavs_: you can configure slay to do it's duty with insults too (IIRC)
[05:20] <royel> StoneNote: 6.10 is edgy, not dapper
[05:20] <StoneNote> 6.06.1
[05:20] <vnux> hi, how can I write in kanji on linux?
[05:20] <Gothfunc> VolkerOS: it's "java -jar <file>"
[05:20] <hendrixski> :smo yeah, I tried it... it's not as coolas it promises to be
[05:20] <SoulPropagation> Jewfro-Macabbi: pwn.
[05:20] <StoneNote> you're right.
[05:20] <jmworx> StoneNote: Than what's the LTS supposed to mean?
[05:20] <[R] eaper> i need help with my ati card, i have the latest drivers, but take a look http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4847/atix1600qt6.jpg
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> jmworx: long term support
[05:20] <VolkerOS> Gothfunc:  ahh! knew java was somewhere in there
[05:20] <Jewfro-Macabbi> SoulPropagation, pwn?
[05:21] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, How do I remove the partition?
[05:21] <jmworx> tonyyarusso: I think you missed the first part of the conversation :-)
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> jmworx: Probably :)
[05:21] <Pancakes> I think I'm just going to give up for now.
[05:21] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: if it's a clean install i would just reinstall everything just to make sure...
[05:21] <jmworx> I think this is a good example of how things are working: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/speex/+bug/19482
[05:22] <tritium> jmworx: then get busy fixing!
[05:22] <jmworx> So is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/52600 but it's set to private (despite the bug being there for ages now)
[05:22] <royel> Pancakes: take a break, you might consider trying to reinstall from livecd again :(   often if I have trouble with an install thats sometiems the easiest route for me
[05:22] <quaal> why is it that beryl is still on my computer when i've sudo apt-get remove beryl
[05:22] <Frogzoo> jmworx: you did read the mention of #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[05:22] <vnux> quaal, uh maybe emerald?
[05:22] <smo> exact hendrixski
[05:22] <jmworx> tritium: It's been fixed more than a year ago (before the Dapper release). Just hasn't actually made it in yet!
[05:22] <smo> not so cool...
[05:22] <smo> prefer xp lol
[05:22] <hendrixski> quaal, all of beryl, you may have a bunch of stuff to uninstall
[05:23] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: try doing an install from the alternative cd
[05:23] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: instead of the livecd
[05:23] <smo> i just see by google smb2 for vista for smb replacement
[05:23] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: that usually solves an problems...
[05:23] <quaal> hendrixski, vnux, i can still open beryl settings manager
[05:23] <jmworx> Frogzoo: Yes, but I believe fixing bugs should be considered "on topic". Or did I miss something?
[05:23] <Azul> quaal, beryl loves you
[05:23] <royel> Pancakes: what he just said sounds like good advice
[05:23] <quaal> Azul, thanks.
[05:23] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, just called a freind, he'll be making me a copy.
[05:23] <moquist> I'm running Feisty on a brand-new MacBook. I'm trying to change the right and middle-click settings, and I've found several references to dev/mac_hid/mouse_button2_keycode, but mac_hid doesn't exist under my /proc/sys/dev/, and sysctl isn't happy when I try to set it in sysctl.conf. Any suggestions?
[05:23] <hendrixski> quaal, how about sudo apt-get remove beryl-manager ?
[05:23] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: aweomse
[05:24] <Pancakes> For now, at least. How do I remove partition?
[05:24] <quaal> hendrixski, did that one too
[05:24] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: i had problems with the livecd
[05:24] <hendrixski> oh
[05:24] <Azul> quaal, welcome, call me for any other issues
[05:24] <hendrixski> hhhmmm, don't knowthen
[05:24] <quaal> Azul, will do
[05:24] <royel> jmworx: its off-topic, unless your helping someone to work-around one.. IMO
[05:24] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: the alternative solved a lot of issues, especially with AMD systems
[05:24] <quaal> it doesnt show up in add/remove programs either
[05:24] <quaal> nothing from beryl does
[05:24] <subrosian> question for peoples, If I am using a laptop with two PCMCIA network cards, one wired, one wireless. Is there a better utility/thingy to handle hotswaping the two without rebooting
[05:25] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I'll try that, but I think I should remove the partition right now.
[05:25] <hendrixski> well, Beryl isn't supported, so Canonical has an excuse
[05:25] <Pancakes> Do I need to use CD to remove/delete the partition?
[05:25] <vnux> quaal, kill all instances of beryl before removing it?  I dunno..
[05:25] <moquist> I'm running Feisty on a brand-new MacBook. I'm trying to change the behavior of the F-keys to default to F1, F2, etc., and require fn+F1, etc. to do the special things. I've changed fnmode in pommed.conf and stopped and started pommed with no luck. Any suggestions?
[05:25] <royel> Pancakes: you can leave that partition, it wont hurt anything
[05:25] <bkudria> I just posted a new version of my 'snippit' app - a script to type text snippets for you quickly.  Now with in-place replacement support!  I'd appreciate any feedback! http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=52197
[05:25] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: right
[05:25] <kapnkrunch> subrosian, u probably have to recompile the kernel to handle that
[05:25] <Pancakes> royel, won't it use up space?
[05:25] <subrosian> kapnkrunch: please explain?
[05:25] <hendrixski> alright, maybe some of the new guys can help me now:
[05:25] <royel> Pancakes: yeah, but if your going to reinstall with teh alternate, you can address that space at that time
[05:26] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: it will, but if you plan on using it again soon, you can leave it
[05:26] <hendrixski> multilingual support in firefox?
[05:26] <hendrixski> anyone?
[05:26] <dyrne> subrosian: you should be able to just plug/unplugg without issue. the old will be taken down and new brought up
[05:26] <Trini|Dreaming|T> My god!
[05:26] <Jewfro-Macabbi> hendrixski, it's in the options
[05:26] <Trini|Dreaming|T> This still is the Stumbleupon Irc server right?
[05:26] <subrosian> dyrne: it doesnt seem to, I unplug the wireless card, wait a minute, and put the wired one in, it still thinks it is wireless
[05:26] <killux> how can i change the font color on the panels?
[05:26] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I'd feel better if I removed it right now, then did it again.
[05:26] <kapnkrunch> subrosian, in general, hotswapping is something handled by the kernel so if ain't supported already w/in it, u'll have to either recompile the kernel to enable it or find the module to compile into it
[05:26] <hendrixski> JewFro... I have two languages showing in options
[05:27] <hendrixski> but the spell check for the other doesn't work :(
[05:27] <VolkerOS> ok
[05:27] <Jewfro-Macabbi> hendrixski, edit, preferences, advanced, languages...
[05:27] <royel> Pancakes: honestly, your just putting yourself thru more trouble than you should, it wont hurt a thing
[05:27] <subrosian> kapnkrunch: it DOES do it, but I have to plug and unplug it a few times (sometimes) and sometimes I need to enable and disable it before it goes away when I pull it out)
[05:27] <Savage-{> subrosian: google - howto <your-distro-type> kernel compile
[05:27] <hendrixski> aaaahhhhh. Ok
[05:27] <hendrixski> Thanks Jewfro
[05:28] <hendrixski> I see where I was doing it wrong.
[05:28] <Savage-{> subrosian: nm
[05:28] <Savage-{> subrosian: it should be setup right then
[05:28] <Savage-{> subrosian: you need network manager
[05:29] <Savage-{> there is a networkmanager package that handles wireless and wired connections
[05:29] <kapnkrunch> subrosian, keep in mind that hotswapping is relatively new concept and it's not a very easy task in windows even
[05:29] <kapnkrunch> i think Savage-{ just answered subrosian's question
[05:29] <subrosian> Savage-{: Do you think network manager will do a better job then the gnome networking thingy
[05:30] <Savage-{> subrosian: yes
[05:30] <Savage-{> subrosian: I use it at work on my thinkpad
[05:30] <cdemwel1> hello
[05:30] <subrosian> Savage-{: can the two run together, or must I remove the other one first
[05:30] <shaowhite> Ubuntu
[05:30] <cdemwel1> does ubuntu offer academic support options like RHEL does?
[05:30] <hendrixski> Jewfro...Nope.. still doesn't work...
[05:30] <Savage-{> subrosian: works with the laptop wifi and wired
[05:31] <cdemwel1> My university currently uses red hat, which costs $30/annum/workstation in support as far as I can tell
[05:31] <Savage-{> subrosian: I think you select it in the options
[05:31] <cdemwel1> however, the installations are buggy, old, and generally horrible
[05:31] <ismail> guys how do i configure the screen resolution?
[05:31] <cdemwel1> not suprising since RHEL is a pain to administer from what I can see
[05:31] <tritium> !support | cdemwel1
[05:31] <ubotu> cdemwel1: For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support For IRC support, join #ubuntu / #kubuntu / #xubuntu etc
[05:31] <hendrixski> I switched edit-preferences-advanced-languages to have Polish on top of the list,then switched keyboard to polish, and it still doesn't spellcheck :(
[05:31] <cdemwel1> yes, looked there thanks
[05:31] <VolkerOS> my big mac got pwned by the bag
[05:32] <cdemwel1> just didn't see any mention of academic pricing
[05:32] <Savage-{> subrosian: I don't have a wireless in range when i'm at work but I do when I'm at home but I haven't brought my laptop home in a while so I can't remember specifically, I jsut know that network manager is the way to go
[05:32] <cdemwel1> I thought perhaps I wasn't seeing it
[05:32] <Pancakes> Thanks for all the help VolkerOS.
[05:32] <subrosian> Savage-{: last question, (uve been very helpful), are there any better drivers or utilities for the network chipset that starts with an "o" (i forgot its name)
[05:32] <oritemis> good night ppl
[05:32] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: any time, let me know if you have any more trouble
[05:32] <kapnkrunch> cdemwel1, ubuntu is completely free. if anything, just use edubuntu
[05:32] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: the alternative CD should help...
[05:32] <cdemwel1> well I know that it's free, but they'll mention the support subscription they get from RH
[05:32] <jmworx> tritium: Just curious, is there a process to get a package *removed* from Ubuntu (universe).
[05:33] <Savage-{> subrosian: networking drivers shouldn't be an issue
[05:33] <kapnkrunch> subrosian, linux should be able to handle multiple ethernet cards since it's a server os ffs
[05:33] <ismail> guys how do i configure the screen resolution?
[05:33] <cdemwel1> and I know that Canonical offers support, but at $250/year/workstation it's not really competitive
[05:33] <Pancakes> If it doesn't, I'm just going to scrap linux, and stick with winblows:/
[05:33] <oritemis> I have a pocket pc and want to sync it with google calendar. Would I use evolution as midle tier, or there are a way to do this directly?
[05:33] <Savage-{> subrosian: I'm probably not the best guy for that
[05:33] <StoneNote> cdemwel1, http://www.ubuntu.com/support  there is a list of partners and a marketplace you can purchase support from
[05:33] <tritium> jmworx: not in place, no
[05:33] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: it should ;)
[05:33] <Savage-{> subrosian: eth0 works for me all the time
[05:33] <cdemwel1> I see
[05:33] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: what you could do is consider another distro
[05:33] <jmworx> tritium: Anything you can suggest to achieve that?
[05:33] <royel> cdemwel1: I am almost positive they offer an support system as well, but most of us in here are not qualified to discuss it, you need to try an find a contact person to get academic pricing support info.
[05:33] <astrobit> when i start gnome, theres always a brown background only while the boot slash is being loaded....how can i change the color of that background?
[05:33] <tritium> jmworx: no.  Why would we want that?
[05:34] <subrosian> Savage-{: and kapnkrunch, it works pretty well, except it cant search for wifi, and is sluggish sometimes
[05:34] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, know any better ones?
[05:34] <cdemwel1> royel, I certainly will if I need to; I figured someone here might know whether or not what I'm talking about actually exists
[05:34] <Pancakes> I have knoppix 5.1, suse, and ubuntu on my desk.
[05:34] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: you can try Kubuntu, also SuSE (which pretty GUI orientated)
[05:34] <Pancakes> Not sure if the suse works
[05:34] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: also CentOS
[05:34] <royel> cdemwel1: it does, we just dont know the details well enough to quote anything
[05:35] <cdemwel1> woo
[05:35] <_pHI_> hey, i just installed 6.06.1 server. I was wondering how to set up unattended upgrades of the server... is all i need to do an apt-get install unattended-upgrades? when will the updates happen? does it write a cron job?
[05:35] <cdemwel1> sweet.
[05:35] <kapnkrunch> subrosian, u mean that wifi is slow? well... wifi is always slow...
[05:35] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: these two links might help you decide: http://www.osdir.com and http://www.distrowatch.com
[05:35] <aeenima> trying to compile something that requires libfaac-dev, when i go to install libfaac-dev it gives an error:   Depends: libmp4-dev but it is not installable.  any ideas?
[05:35] <cdemwel1> I'll say there's likely to be something, and leave it there
[05:35] <oritemis> I have a pocket pc and want to sync it with google calendar. Would I use evolution as midle tier, or there are a way to do this directly?
[05:35] <hendrixski> oh well... I'll try the language support in Firefox again tomorrow :(
[05:35] <Savage-{> subrosian: blame the vendors and microsoft for that
[05:35] <jmworx> tritium: The speex package (not libspeex1) is broken on x86 and segfaults on startup 100% of the time. The problem has been fixed a long time ago and a patch posted. Nobody's willing to apply. This is only damaging the image of Speex for no reason. I'd like the package removed.
[05:35] <hendrixski> thanks, g'night
[05:35] <royel> Pancakes: what version of Suse?
[05:35] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, won't load. I'm having internet problems:/
[05:35] <Pancakes> Let me check
[05:35] <subrosian> kapnkrunch: not slow... sluggish... It seems that sometimes I have to disconnect and reconnect to make it work properly. Like the driver doesn't initiate properly sometimes
[05:35] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: :(
[05:35] <Pancakes> Doesn't say.
[05:36] <tritium> jmworx: it would be better to request that the patch be applied
[05:36] <jmworx> jmworx: Sorry, I meant on x86-64, not x86.
[05:36] <kapnkrunch> Savage-{, sooner or later, people will switch over to linux, it's only a matter of time
[05:36] <aeenima> libmp4 is supposed to be libmp4v2-dev can i somehow change the dependencies?!
[05:36] <oritemis> don't anyone had tryied that?
[05:36] <jmworx> tritium: I did that, several time, months ago.
[05:36] <Pancakes> He just wrote Suse Live/Installation Cd
[05:36] <tritium> removing a package that can be fixed makes absolutely no sense
[05:36] <Trixsey> package to handle rar/zip in Ubuntu?
[05:36] <Trixsey> you guys know any?
[05:36] <jmworx> tritium: See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/speex/+bug/19482
[05:36] <jrib> !rar | Trixsey
[05:36] <ubotu> Trixsey: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:36] <Savage-{> kapnkrunch: I hope so kinda
[05:36] <Timw> hey guys
[05:36] <tritium> jmworx: I saw it.
[05:36] <Timw> i have  a question
[05:36] <royel> Pancakes: I used Suse for a while, it's a good alternative to Ubuntu .. if you must :)
[05:36] <Trixsey> jrib, how about zip? :/
[05:36] <ismail> guys how do i configure the screen resolution?
[05:36] <Timw> i am trying to open a nsv file
[05:37] <dyrne> subrosian: sure it isnt just an issue with network manager?
[05:37] <jrib> Trixsey: click the link :)
[05:37] <alex__> i installed ubuntu about 2 weeks ago and now the computer has slowed down during boot up and opening programs
[05:37] <tritium> ismail: there is a configuraton applet
[05:37] <Pancakes> I'll put it into consideration
[05:37] <jmworx> tritium: So? Yes it can be fixed, but it's clear it's not going to. I'd like it removed.
[05:37] <subrosian> well, thanks all, uve led me in the right direction, I'm going to go try network manager and screw around with the card a bit :)
[05:37] <Azul> fedora is a better alternative
[05:37] <Savage-{> kapnkrunch: I would like support but I do like the freedom and no viruses benefit
[05:37] <aeenima> can anyone help me resolve a bug in package dependencies?
[05:37] <ismail> its missing a lot of resolutions
[05:37] <tritium> jmworx: thanks for sharing your opinion
[05:37] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: it's very GUI orientated, with focus on KDE mainly. Very easy and straightforward... backed by Novell
[05:37] <oritemis> strange, why noone answers me? My question is silly?
[05:37] <kapnkrunch> Savage-{, same here
[05:37] <jmworx> tritium: It's not an opinion, it's a request.
[05:37] <royel> !resolution | ismail
[05:37] <Savage-{> subrosian: you on a laptop?
[05:37] <ubotu> ismail: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:37] <_pHI_> any ideas/howto do the unattended-upgrades??
[05:37] <Timw> or download one but i want to open it with mplayer rather than totem now i click other but i don't really understand the filesystem
[05:37] <Azul> oritemis, either no one knows, or no one cares
[05:37] <Timw> where do i go to find the program mplayer
[05:38] <VolkerOS> ALL: brb, gotta go re-rack some servers
[05:38] <ismail> ok thanks
[05:38] <aeenima> can anyone help me resolve a bug in package dependencies?  Is it possible?
[05:38] <seamus7> Anyone do regular backups to an external hard drive? what method or program do you use?
[05:38] <subrosian> Savage-{: yeah, IBM A21m (700mhz 256 ram) running xubuntu
[05:38] <Savage-{> Timw: console: apt-get install mplayer mplayer-gui
[05:38] <Pancakes> VolkerOS, I have like no experence with *nix, only experence I have is an irc shell:/
[05:38] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, use cron
[05:38] <jmworx> tritium: I mean seriously, you consider that acceptable to ship something 100% broken and not be willing to fix it?
[05:38] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: check out http://www.distrowatch.com when your inet gets better
[05:38] <ismail> im missing the 1280X1024
[05:38] <aeenima> is there any way i can force a package to install if the dependency is incorrect?
[05:38] <Savage-{> subrosian: cool I like IBM lately
[05:38] <VolkerOS> Pancakes: they give you and explanation of each distro...
[05:38] <seamus7> Timw: to install you could do 'sudo aptitude install mplayer'
[05:39] <VolkerOS> Pancakes:  give me a sec, have some servers i gotta go mess with
[05:39] <Jewfro-Macabbi> royel, I used Suse for a while, a prefer debian based distros as apt is far superior to rpm in terms of ease.
[05:39] <Trixsey> How do I compress files to zip with the archive manager? I only managed .tar.gz
[05:39] <Timw> yea i installed it
[05:39] <zorthos> Im wondering if any one can point me to a site that will detail how to recover a password using a live cd in ubuntu?
[05:39] <royel> Jewfro-Macabbi: same here!
[05:39] <Timw> the problem is opening it with firefox right off the bat
[05:39] <Trixsey> nvm
[05:39] <tritium> jmworx: it's not a matter of being unwilling.  It's a matter of limited resources.  There are around 20,000 packages, and nowhere near that many MOTUs and developers.
[05:39] <Trixsey> worked now :p
[05:39] <subrosian> Savage-{: its doing the job, I found it in the trash, replaced the harddrive, ram, battery, keyboard, powersupply, added network cards, etc
[05:39] <aeenima> anyone know?
[05:39] <alex__> has anyone experienced slow performance after ubuntu install?
[05:39] <royel> Jewfro-Macabbi: if Suse had apt, I'd never have left .. shh!
[05:39] <Savage-{> subrosian: lol
[05:40] <subrosian> Savage-{: screen worked, and thats all I cared about, everything else I either had laying around, or I could get cheap
[05:40] <seamus7> kapnkrunch: i assume thats a task scheduler command in bash .... do you mean to use cron to copy files to a backup folder and maybe tar them?
[05:40] <jmworx> tritium: Then remove it. I'm fine with that and at least people will be downloading a version that works from the website.
[05:40] <Savage-{> subrosian: better than nothing
[05:40] <oritemis> Azul: I am not asking what OS is better, or any other silly question, just if there are some sync tool for pocket pc and google calendar thru ubuntu, or if I should use evolution as middle tier. I don't think this is silly.
[05:40] <bimberi> jmworx: Have you emailed the ubuntu-devel ML?
[05:40] <royel> !root | zorthos this might provide you with enough info to get you started
[05:40] <ubotu> zorthos this might provide you with enough info to get you started: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:40] <jmworx> bimberi: I've emailed pretty much everyone, including that.
[05:40] <zorthos> royel thanks
[05:41] <royel> zorthos: I hope it helps
[05:41] <zorthos> ubotu thanks
[05:41] <richduhrm> how do i see how many gigs i have left on linux drive without using qtparted?
[05:41] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:41] <Timw> seamus, i already install mplayer throught the add/remove programs, i just want to be able to open it right off of firefox
[05:41] <tritium> jmworx: please quit bothering me with this issue
[05:41] <bimberi> jmworx: I see.  No wonder you're harping :|
[05:41] <Azul> oritemis, i never said it was + i don't have the answer
[05:41] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, yeah, or just have cron run a script
[05:41] <aeenima> trying to compile something that requires libfaac-dev, when i go to install libfaac-dev it gives an error:   Depends: libmp4-dev but it is not installable.  THe dependency is incorrect, its supposed to be libmp4v2-dev.  any ideas how to fix the dependency?
[05:41] <dyrne> richduhrm: most people do df -h
[05:41] <kelsin> richduhrm: "df" in a term
[05:41] <richduhrm> ok cool
[05:41] <subrosian> Savage-{: now the joke is that my company gave me a Dell Latitude D620 and I rarely EVER use it
[05:41] <seamus7> kapnkrunch: i wonder what the best compression is?
[05:41] <Azul> oritemis, i'm just telling you what it means when no one replies to you
[05:41] <oritemis> Azul: I see. Thank you anyway for care to answer me.
[05:41] <Savage-{> subrosian: oh btw, you need to # out the /etc/network/interfaces devices before using network manager
[05:41] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, to get it to actually back to a cd/dvd, u'll actually need something less primitive
[05:41] <kapnkrunch> *up
[05:42] <smo> damn vista : ipconfig -> ipv4...192.168.11  and just 2 lines later ipv4 again ip 192.168.1.30 and i can ping them from another pc!!!
[05:42] <smo> wtf
[05:42] <richduhrm> thnx dyrne
[05:42] <smo> 192.168.1.11*
[05:42] <Sisodiya> Hi, I m new to UBUNTU.. please tell me which software i should use for burnung CD
[05:42] <seamus7> kapnkrunch: i have external usb hard drives so i dont' have to do any burning ... i may not backup any of my / directories ... probably just my /home folder
[05:42] <justdave> I'm using x11vnc so I can view the same thing on a VNC client that's on the screen currently, and I'm finding that the vncserver isn't sending the content of the screen in certain video modes (perhaps OpenGL?)  anyone have any ideas if there's X11 settings I can change to make everything still draw on the remote screen?
[05:42] <oritemis> Azul: Is the forty day I came here. Did a question and no one even answer.
[05:42] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, i usually prefer zip only cuz i generally go between windows, but otherwise, i don't know
[05:42] <dyrne> Sisodiya: overwhelmingly most people like to install k3b
[05:42] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, if it's to a usb drive, then u're fine
[05:43] <dyrne> Sisodiya: but you can burn using your file manager i believe
[05:43] <Sisodiya> thmks
[05:43] <jmworx> tritium: To get back to my original question (which was *not* to complain), what would be the best way to get the package removed?
[05:43] <kelsin> Sisodiya: gnomebaker is also a option
[05:43] <Azul> oritemis, hard luck
[05:43] <subrosian> Savage-{: good to know, im going to go screw around with it, Ill be back later if/when I have another issue :) Thanks very much :)
[05:43] <tritium> jmworx: I told you, there is no process for that, nor is it the right approach
[05:43] <oritemis> Azul: I hope so.
[05:43] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, all u have to do is make sure that the usb drive is in the computer at the time of the scheduled back up
[05:43] <Savage-{> subrosian: after you do that in console: ifconfig - to see if how many network interfaces are loaded and ifdown them and then ifup.  ifdown eth0 for example then ifup eth0
[05:43] <Azul> oritemis, people who answer are a lot less than people who ask
[05:43] <VolkerOS> back
[05:44] <Azul> oritemis, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:44] <jmworx> tritium: If it was (e.g.) a copyright infringement, how would you handle it?
[05:44] <oritemis> Azul: I am sure of that.
[05:44] <royel> Sisodiya: I would recommend using Gnomebaker as a first option, since it won't require you to pull in all sorts of KDE libs
[05:44] <VolkerOS> gone again. brb
[05:44] <subrosian> Savage-{: got it
[05:44] <oritemis> Azul: I will thank you!
[05:44] <tritium> jmworx: it's not
[05:44] <paras> channel, i have just debootstrap edgy , chrooted and installed x-server-xorg x-window-system with no problem.. but when i install gnome-core it left me with errors in configuraion due to dependencies.. help plz
[05:44] <seamus7> kapnkrunch: ok yeah thx.. i may just do a dragndrop but i'm testing some backup packages in the repositories that do scheduled ones and compress
[05:45] <TheDebugger> The only reason i have kdelibs on my system is Amarok :/
[05:45] <jmworx> tritium: That's why I said "if".
[05:45] <kapnkrunch> seamus7, w/e works
[05:45] <tritium> jmworx: please drop it.
[05:46] <jmworx> tritium: What would you do if someone was shipping a broken version of Ubuntu and refusing to stop or fix it?
[05:46] <justdave> I know it's capable of rendering what's on the screen, because if I close the connection and reopen it, I get a shot of what's currently on the screen, it just doesn't update until I get to a screen that goes back to a different video mode
[05:46] <seamus7> Timw: you want mplayer to be your firefox default plulgin for multimedia you come upon while browsing the internet OR do you mean something else?
[05:46] <justdave> (or have the client request a complete refresh)
[05:46] <Timw> seamus: all i want is to find the executable when opening a file in firefox
[05:47] <vnux> im trying to install wlan-ng and I get asked for the pcmcia-cs source dir...where should that be located?
[05:47] <seamus7> Timw: for the mplayer plugin for firefox see this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28Mplayer.29_with_plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[05:47] <Timw> like in windows when you open a file you go to program files->and the file name
[05:47] <Timw> is there something like that for firefox
[05:47] <Timw> in linux
[05:47] <tritium> jmworx: nobody is _refusing_ to fix it.  Evidently you're refusing to quit harassing me.  Consider this your first Code of Conduct warning.
[05:47] <royel> jmworx: I dont think tritium is a developer nor has teh power to change anything, your persistance no matter how admirable is also getting very tiresome to hear, so do us all a favor an give it a rest, send a formal complaint to Ubuntu if it matters that much to you
[05:47] <Azul> Timw, don't expect linux to act like windows
[05:47] <jrib> Timw: /usr/bin/mplayer
[05:48] <Jewfro-Macabbi> oritemis, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7712, this maybe helpful, but not sure
[05:48] <kelsin> Timw: most binaries are located in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin, you can type "whereis <programname>" in a terminal to find where it is located
[05:48] <Timw> jrib, might have answer my wuestion
[05:48] <aeenima> trying to compile something that requires libfaac-dev, when i go to install libfaac-dev it gives an error:   Depends: libmp4-dev but it is not installable.  THe dependency is incorrect, its supposed to be libmp4v2-dev.  any ideas how to fix the dependency?
[05:48] <tritium> royel: I'm not a core developer, no.  I can only upload to universe.
[05:48] <jmworx> royel: where do I send that?
[05:48] <StoneNote> jmworx, http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671723650
[05:49] <royel> jmworx: I dont know off-hand, nor will I research it for you, I would start at ubuntu.com
[05:49] <dkbg> wow linux installation sucks
[05:49] <dkbg> Pancakes: you still here?
[05:49] <Pancakes> Yes
[05:49] <kondor21> just noticed on disto watch, 3000+ in the last month
[05:49] <jmworx> StoneNote: Thanks, but I was at this stage last year. Now, I'm doing damage control
[05:49] <VolkerOS> -Back
[05:49] <seamus7> Timw: sorry yeah i think jrib answered your question
[05:49] <Syrup> Yummy Pancakes and /me
[05:49] <dkbg> when you get the blinking cursor (the "_") does it just stay blinking or does the screen turn totally blank?
[05:50] <Savage-{> dkbg: depends on who is installing it
[05:50] <oritemis> I have a pocket pc and want to sync it with google calendar. Would I use evolution as midle tier, or there are a way to do this directly?
[05:50] <Pancakes> It keeps the "-" until I press a key.
[05:50] <VolkerOS> dkbg:  i think she is just getting the _
[05:50] <dkbg> damn
[05:50] <oritemis> wow, sorry
[05:50] <oritemis> wrong channel
[05:50] <TECHWG> Hello people
[05:51] <Azul> lol
[05:51] <Timw> seamus: it okay
[05:51] <dkbg> because when I first installed ubuntu I had a similar issue where my screen was just blank, it was my video card
[05:51] <Timw> seamus: another question
[05:51] <Savage-{> Linux = Not for Apes!
[05:51] <TECHWG> i have some slight trouble i was wondering that you can help me with ?
[05:51] <jrib> !ask | TECHWG
[05:51] <ubotu> TECHWG: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:51] <Timw> i just installed ubuntu and i can't seem to write on a fat32 system where windows is stored
[05:51] <TECHWG> ok lol
[05:51] <aeenima> and pray someone answers..
[05:51] <dkbg> Savage-{: well if people want it to reach "critical mass" its going to need to be :P
[05:51] <dyrne> Timw: sure its not ntfs?
[05:51] <Timw> seabus; is there anyway to unrestrict my writing priveledge
[05:52] <tritium> jmworx: if it gets fixed upstream, it should get into debian sid, and it should get into an upcoming ubuntu release via a sync
[05:52] <Timw> positive
[05:52] <Azul> Timw, mount the thing
[05:52] <seamus7> Timw: are you sure it's fat32 and not ntfs?
[05:52] <Timw> all my ntfs this are all not even showing up on my desktop
[05:52] <Savage-{> dkbg: i'm just joking really, but I don't care to be honest, I like it the way it is
[05:52] <TECHWG> I have an Maudio Revolution 5.1 audio card, and it is not letting my my microphone work, i have onboard that i mess the settings up and im just confused
[05:52] <dyrne> Timw: sorry for asking but its a common question here
[05:52] <Azul> Timw, add the 'rw' option for your windows partition in /etc/fstab
[05:52] <TECHWG> I tried to install a new alsa but it will not install
[05:52] <justdave> jmworx: that sounds more like a trademark issue than a copyright one.
[05:52] <aeenima> i thought the packaging in ubuntu was going to help resolve dependency problems i had in the past... =(
[05:52] <dkbg> Savage-{: :)
[05:52] <justdave> if Speex is a trademark
[05:52] <aeenima> no such luck
[05:52] <vnux> some compilation is asking me for kernel sources...what should I look for in apt-get to get them?  I have 2.6.17
[05:52] <TECHWG> i really want to move away from microsoft for my primary and move ti ubuntu and use Xp in vmware i installed
[05:53] <TECHWG> any ideas ?
[05:53] <dkbg> operating systems suck in general for end users
[05:53] <kuma> hi, my USB thumb drive got ionfected with a virus, Is there any antivirus I can run from Linux?
[05:53] <zorthos> Is it possible to boot up from a ubuntu live cd. mount a file system then chrooting in to the new system?
[05:53] <Timw> is that what they call mounting
[05:53] <dyrne> vnux: apt-get install linux-source  will grab it i think. in feisty at least
[05:53] <aeenima> im gonna ask one more time then i give up for now
[05:53] <jrib> aeenima: apt-cache policy libfaac-dev
[05:53] <Jewfro-Macabbi> kuma, clam-av
[05:53] <Timw> azul: is that what they call mounting
[05:53] <dkbg> agh whatever
[05:53] <Azul> yes my friend
[05:53] <aeenima> ah jrib =)
[05:53] <vnux> oh thanks
[05:53] <Timw> cool
[05:53] <aeenima> u speak to me =)
[05:53] <aeenima> heh
[05:53] <Azul> that's mounting options thou
[05:53] <jrib> aeenima: ?
[05:53] <kuma> Jewfro-Macabbi: thanks, should I get it from the repository, or should I better download it?
[05:54] <TECHWG>  Can anyone help me with my audio card issue?
[05:54] <sharms> !ask
[05:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:54] <Timw> azul, you gusy sorry for acking such basic question but i just need the terminolgy down so i can look it up online
[05:54] <aeenima> jrib: so i can change it?
[05:54] <jmworx> tritium: It's fixed upstream and it's actually fixed in Edgy. What I'm trying to do is getting it fixed in Dapper
[05:54] <TECHWG> !ask
[05:54] <Jewfro-Macabbi> kuma, should be in the repos, try "aptitude search clam" or "clam-av"
[05:54] <jrib> aeenima: what is the output from that command?
[05:54] <TECHWG> i did ask
[05:54] <aeenima> err should i paste it all here?
[05:54] <jrib> !pastebin | aeenima
[05:54] <ubotu> aeenima: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:54] <Azul> Timw, look for 'mounting options /etc/fstab'
[05:54] <kuma> Jewfro-Macabbi: ok, thanks
[05:54] <TECHWG> i gave you a good typed description of my problem
[05:55] <smo> use alsaconf (saved from debian ahaha)
[05:55] <Azul> or maybe read write /etc/fstab
[05:55] <Savage-{> "Can I ask  Question"... "I thingy isn't working right"... "Can you fix it"
[05:55] <TECHWG> I have an Maudio Revolution 5.1 audio card, and it is not letting my my microphone work, i have onboard that i mess the settings up and im just confused
[05:55] <tritium> jmworx: you've been bugging me about something that's fixed?  *sigh*
[05:55] <smo> d know why this scipt has been removed from ubuntu very usefull
[05:55] <VolkerOS> brb kernel panic
[05:55] <seamus7> Timw: here's a good article about fstab and mounting and windows partitions: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?&t=283131
[05:55] <jmworx> justdave: I did not register Speex as a trademark, but I have to admit that in this kind of situation I can sort of understand the asshole attitude Mozilla has with its trademark thing.
[05:55] <Timw> seamus, thanks a bunch
[05:56] <Savage-{> My*
[05:56] <tritium> jmworx: language warning
[05:56] <aeenima> jrib:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6978/
[05:56] <jmworx> tritium: It's not fixed in Dapper, which people will keep installing for a while (isn't that the whole idea of LTS).
[05:56] <TECHWG> any ideas ?
[05:56] <jrib> aeenima: you're not using the package from the ubuntu repositories, that's why your dependencies are all messed up...
[05:57] <aeenima> thats the only one...
[05:57] <jrib> aeenima: so?
[05:57] <jmworx> tritium: Just in case I was too vague: of course it's fixed upstream, since the maintainer
[05:57] <aeenima> so what are u telling me?
[05:57] <tritium> jmworx: I agree that it should be fixed in Dapper, given it's LTS status
[05:58] <jrib> aeenima: I'm explaining why your dependencies can't be met.  If you use ubuntu repositories, it should "just  work"
[05:58] <TECHWG> Who here is really good with ubuntu, and has MSN who can give me some help about my audio problem ?
[05:58] <jmworx> tritium: but can you tell me how?
[05:58] <tritium> jmworx: I'll try to work it
[05:58] <jmworx> tritium: thanks
[05:58] <vegasmcpc> does anybody happen to know the command that will show the uuid of a device?
[05:58] <aeenima> can i somehow tell it to use the correct package name as a dependency or am i out of luck?
[05:59] <kondor21> if i mount a drive to a directory then it over writes the files (or hides em) if I bind does it do the same thing?
[05:59] <vegasmcpc> or better yet, could anybody walk me through adding my new raid 5 array to my /etc/fstab?
[05:59] <jrib> aeenima: you can edit the source package that you have there.  But why would you?  Just use the ubuntu packages
[05:59] <vegasmcpc> the walkthrough i found ignores the /etc/fstab thing
[05:59] <TheGhost> Ok guys, I got a question for ya
[05:59] <tritium> jmworx: it's in universe, so I'll try to address it
[05:59] <TECHWG> Oh irc is not the help i need
[06:00] <aeenima> jrib: but at this point...  im wondering how to resolve it.  remove the alternate repository?
[06:00] <bigredradio> vegasmcpc, what are you unsure about with /etc/fstab
[06:00] <jrib> aeenima: yes
[06:00] <kondor21> !bind
[06:00] <TheGhost> My laptop has a wireless card in it, Network Manager sees the network, but has no bars, and cannot connect
[06:00] <ubotu> bind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (edgy), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB
[06:00] <aeenima> im sure i added it at some point to get some apps installed that were not in the ubuntu repository.
[06:00] <aeenima> ill try removing it.
[06:00] <aeenima> tty
[06:00] <aeenima> ty
[06:00] <TheGhost> Anyone have any ideas?
[06:00] <patbam> hi, are the directories added to the "Places" menu accessible as a file somehow?
[06:01] <Beverage> Hello helpful people! I did "chmod -R 777 /var/www" i want to know how I can undo it and put it back to the original anyone know?
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> Beverage: there isn't really an "undo" for stuff like that...
[06:02] <VolkerOS> fsck master deluxe
[06:02] <aegisthis> yo
[06:02] <Beverage> tonyyarusso, hmm okay maybe there is something else wrong, when i try to open files in firefox it asks me if i want to download them, php and apache are installed properly
[06:02] <TheGhost> So, anyone have an idea as to what my problem is?
[06:02] <patbam> i looked in ~/.gnome2 but i didn't see anything like "bookmarks.xml" or anything along those lines
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> Beverage: Those are completely unrelated, afaik.  I've heard of the second thing before - try searching bugs on LP
[06:03] <Sluff> Any IMAC ubuntu users here???
[06:03] <royel> Beverage: you can use the same command to change the permissions to something with less priviledges, or go in an change each files permission manually..  but there is no UNDO button..
[06:03] <jrib> patbam: /home/jrib/.gtk-bookmarks  maybe?
[06:03] <aeenima> jrim: now a new error, do you think my dependencies are totally out of wack now?
[06:03] <TheGhost> My laptop has a wireless card in it, Network Manager sees the network, but has no bars, and cannot connect
[06:04] <tritium> jmworx: which packages are affected?  Simply speex?
[06:04] <jrib> aeenima: pastebin the error
[06:04] <patbam> jrib: thanks... hmm,  i don't seem to have a .gtk-boomarks
[06:04] <patbam> er, yeah i do
[06:04] <patbam> heh
[06:04] <patbam> jrib: nice, that's it. gracias
[06:04] <jrib> patbam: for the record, I just crated a bookmark with a name like oiusdfaoiuds and grepped for it :)
[06:04] <aeenima> jrim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6979/
[06:04] <aeenima> err jrib sorry
[06:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, try checking /etc/network/interfaces
[06:05] <jmworx> tritium: Only Speex. libspeex is fine
[06:05] <tritium> jmworx: okay, thanks.
[06:05] <TheGhost> gksudo gedit
[06:05] <TheGhost> ?
[06:05] <jmworx> i.e. it's only a universe issue
[06:05] <Beverage> thanks all
[06:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, yeah sudo gedit
[06:06] <chipbuddy> hello chaps
[06:06] <jrib> aeenima: I'm guessing you have the libfaac0 from the outside repo installed?
[06:06] <TheGhost> ok, now what am I looking for?
[06:06] <chipbuddy> i'd just like to say 1) i'm a total noob and 2) i just successfully partitioned and mounted a new hard drive
[06:06] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, what do you have for primary network interface?
[06:06] <Beverage> tonyyarusso, wanna explain more about bugs in LP?
[06:07] <aeenima> jrib: probably, see im trying to get the latest version of kino compiled/installed... the kino package on the ubuntu repsitory is too old and has bugs.. ive probably made a mess now
[06:07] <TheGhost> um, how would I find that out?
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> Beverage: Sure.  Most of the info is in here:
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> !bugs | Beverage
[06:07] <ubotu> Beverage: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:07] <Beverage> okay thankyoyu
[06:07] <jrib> aeenima: try sudo apt-get install libfaac0=1.24clean-0ubuntu4  to downgrade
[06:07] <tritium> jmworx: right
[06:07] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, is there any info in the file you opened?
[06:07] <TheGhost> yes
[06:07] <TheGhost> plenty
[06:07] <aeenima> jrib: k thanks
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> Beverage: You can search for relevant terms to see if anyone's filed something ("firefox php" might be a good start)  Hopefully someone will have posted a fix.
[06:08] <brendan_> Hello. i am trying to install Beryl on a inspiron 6000 laptop running a fresh install of 6.10 (updated). it has a "ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon Mobility M300] " card in it. I followed the instructions on this website "http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html". The problem i am having is that when i select beryl as my window manager the borders on the windows flash and nothing happens. Running "beryl-xgl"
[06:08] <brendan_>  returns the error "beryl-xgl: No composite extension".
[06:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, hang on I'm searching for better info
[06:08] <TheGhost> ok, thank you for your helping
[06:08] <aeenima> oh lord its removing cinellera and all sorts of other stuff =(
[06:09] <TheGhost> I'm pretty new to Ubuntu
[06:09] <smo> with ati disable aiglx in xorg use xgl with compsite disabled in the xorg.conf brendan
[06:10] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, what kind of card is this? Here's the main networking wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkDevices
[06:10] <TheGhost> I have no idea, it's integrated
[06:10] <brendan_> smo. how do i disable aiglx?
[06:10] <jrib> aeenima: you're suppose top check what it tells you it is going to do before press yes :/
[06:10] <`Jessie|lap> hey
[06:10] <chipbuddy> is there some primer i can look at that will tell me about permissions and groups and users... i want to start organizing my hard drives and media and users... but i want to know the "right" way to do it... and not just munge my way through things
[06:10] <jrib> !permissions | chipbuddy
[06:10] <ubotu> chipbuddy: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:11] <`Jessie|lap> isn't there a way to do wpa-psk in ubuntu right from the gui?
[06:11] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, okay, you need someone with more knowledge, I did figure out how to get my connection working by wading through that wiki though.
[06:11] <aeenima> jrib: lol oh well heheh it did resolve the issue though, so now i was able to install the library it couldnt prior.  at this point ill just put back what i need that was uninstalled
[06:11] <TheGhost> okey dokey
[06:11] <smo> in  Identifier      "Default Layout" section
[06:11] <smo> write
[06:11] <TheGhost> i'll poke around then
[06:11] <aeenima> jrib: thanks for the help mate, ill fight with it from here.  appreciate it
[06:11] <jrib> aeenima: np
[06:11] <`Jessie|lap> anyone?
[06:11] <TheGhost> thank you for your help
[06:11] <`Jessie|lap> !wpa-psk
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa-psk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <smo> Option "aiglx" "false"
[06:12] <smo> then at the end of xorg.conf use Section "extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection
[06:13] <snowman3388> hello?
[06:14] <tritium> jmworx: there is a stable release update (SRU) waiting for MOTU verification.  The issue is that we need to find a few motus to test it on 6.06 amd64, which is the hard part
[06:14] <smo> motu soundcards?
[06:15] <snowman3388> I need help editing my /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[06:15] <tritium> smo: no
[06:15] <smo> ok
[06:15] <StoneNote> MOTU's are a team of universe maintainers who have upload privileges and maintain packages that are kept in the universe area of Ubuntu
[06:15] <TheGhost> My laptop has a wireless card in it, Network Manager sees the network, but has no bars, and cannot connect
[06:15] <snowman3388> anyone?
[06:15] <smo> i see
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> snowman3388: whats the prob?
[06:16] <snowman3388> oh thanks
[06:16] <snowman3388> uh
[06:16] <tritium> jmworx: you see that last message?
[06:16] <smo> too far or bad settings on the ap theghost
[06:16] <snowman3388> I've been trying to take out a hard drive but it keeps coming up with an error 21 or error 17
[06:16] <brendan_> I made the changes and running beryl-xgl still results in "No composite extension
[06:16] <brendan_> beryl-xgl: No composite extension
[06:16] <brendan_> "
[06:17] <snowman3388> I put the drive back in but it's still doing it
[06:17] <smo> is ur 3d working normally brendan
[06:17] <smo> without xgl or anything
[06:17] <brendan_> glxgears gives a nice smooth animation
[06:17] <tritium> !enter | brendan_
[06:17] <ubotu> brendan_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:17] <`Jessie|lap> i tried to install network-manager-gnome but now it says it cannot find some required resources
[06:17] <brendan_> sorry
[06:17] <smo> use fglrx or radeon driver?
[06:18] <brendan_> fglrx
[06:18] <smo> whats the resulat of fglrxinfo?
[06:18] <smo> result
[06:18] <mnp> rage.net
[06:18] <snowman3388> hitman?
[06:18] <royel> tritium: I seen it, but I honestly am just glad he seems to have dropped it :)
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> hold up
[06:19] <snowman3388> no problem
[06:19] <tritium> royel: ;)
[06:20] <brendan_> the result is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6980/
[06:20] <smo> wait
[06:20] <fiddo> it 6.1 ok to run on a P 2 128MB ?
[06:20] <pablo_> Hola
[06:20] <pablo_> Saluton
[06:20] <pablo_> Hello
[06:20] <tritium> !es
[06:20] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:20] <smo> ok good brendan
[06:21] <smo> paste your xorg.conf
[06:21] <Fifoxez> how do i install ubuntu on a specific partition of a hard drive? the IDE is only giving me the option to resize the first partition to create space
[06:21] <jrshannon> join #ubuntu-doc
[06:22] <VolkerOS> bots are so smart
[06:22] <brendan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6981/  is my xorg.conf file
[06:22] <smo> ok
[06:23] <Fifoxez> can i seriously not install this distro on a specific partition?
[06:23] <smo> seems right
[06:23] <smo> sure xgl is running?
[06:23] <royel> Fifoxez: should be able to manually set it
[06:23] <brendan_> smo: how can i check?
[06:23] <fiddo> hello, is it acceptable to install ubuntu on a pentium2 with 128MB ?
[06:24] <smo> ps -a | grep xgl
[06:24] <royel> !alternate | fiddo I would chose this
[06:24] <ubotu> fiddo I would chose this: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[06:24] <brendan_> fiddo: my friend installed ubuntu on a toughbook p2. 192mb ram. she said it was bearable but she preffers fluxbox or something more lightweight.
[06:25] <royel> fiddo: the alternate install cd is recommended for machines that are a bit "underpowered"
[06:25] <brendan_> smo: nothing comes up
[06:25] <smo> ps -aux | grep xgl or Xgl d remember
[06:25] <smo> sorry
[06:25] <tarelerulz> How easy is bit torrent that easy with Ubuntu?
[06:26] <smo> use deluge for torrent it s nice ( for me)
[06:26] <Xenguy> tarelerulz: yah, but then there is protecting your IP
[06:26] <smo> gnomefiles.org search deluge
[06:26] <gop> !tvout
[06:26] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[06:26] <brendan_> Xgl   xgld    Xgld  all return nothing
[06:26] <VolkerOS> torrents are much faster in ubuntu, that's my impression
[06:26] <Xenguy> tarelerulz: unless that doesn't matter for you
[06:26] <smo> how do you start xgl?
[06:27] <brendan_> 'beryl-xgl'
[06:27] <smo> ok i see
[06:27] <brendan_> and through the diamond menu.
[06:27] <smo> ah ok
[06:27] <smo> pm me
[06:28] <Dr_willis> fiddo,  it may take a long time to install.  and use the alt.install cd. not the live-cd
[06:28] <bushblows> and ideas on how to kill a proccess stuck in 1/0 wait , I have tried " kill pid, kill -INT pid, kill -KILL pid, kill -9 pid, and even ps -ef to kill it parent
[06:29] <smo> look your pm brendan
[06:29] <bushblows> and no matter what i get nothing
[06:29] <Jewfro-Macabbi> bushblows pkill "program name"
[06:29] <royel> bushblows: you could pull the cord :)
[06:29] <bushblows> pkill didnt work
[06:30] <bushblows> the proccess is in state D
[06:30] <valehru> Finally got ndiswrapper working with bcm4310!  yahoo.  Is there any disadvantage to using ndiswrapper?
[06:30] <bushblows> its k3b cd/dvd burning software
[06:30] <Jewfro-Macabbi> my only idea, sorry
[06:30] <Xenguy> bushblows: killall (in linux only)
[06:30] <Xenguy> ?
[06:30] <bushblows> its cool thanks
[06:30] <_fiddo_> Dr_willis, OK. ill use the 'alternate' version - but will it be slow?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> _fiddo_,  you proberly should use a very minimal window manager.. like xfce, or fluxbox
[06:31] <bushblows> yup none of those are working, I am going with the pulling of the cord method
[06:31] <Xenguy> bushblows: with sudo of course
[06:31] <brendan_> smo: i have a window open.
 test
[06:31] <smo> ?
[06:31] <Xenguy> nano: ack
[06:31] <nano> thanks
[06:31] <smo> type Xgl :1 in a terminal to see
[06:32] <bushblows> ya sudo and still nothing
[06:32] <bushblows> i dont get how it froze this hardcore
[06:32] <brendan_> a window opened
[06:32] <smo> grey?
[06:32] <brendan_> yup. like when x starts
[06:32] <Xenguy> brendan_: dapper, or edgy ?
[06:32] <smo> good
[06:32] <smo> yeah
[06:32] <bushblows> later
[06:32] <bushblows> thanks
[06:32] <TheGhost> My laptop has a wireless card in it, Network Manager sees the network, but has no bars, and cannot connect
[06:33] <brendan_> 6.10
[06:33] <TheGhost> the network is extremely close , so it's not range
[06:33] <Xenguy> brendan_: whoops, meant bushblows
[06:33] <smo> need 2 things brendan
[06:33] <smo> add a xgl entry to your gdm
[06:34] <smo> brendan
[06:34] <brendan_> how do i do that? where does the text file go and what goes into it
[06:34] <bigredradio> TheGhost, did you configure the ssid properly
[06:35] <smo> type udo gedit /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop
[06:35] <smo> firest
[06:35] <smo> first*
[06:35] <TheGhost> how do you mean
[06:35] <brendan_> its there.
[06:35] <smo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6983/
[06:35] <bigredradio> TheGhost, A wireless network has a name. essid or ssid as it can be known
[06:35] <smo> copy it in
[06:36] <TheGhost> Mine's called Network
[06:36] <brendan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6984/
[06:36] <brendan_> thats what was there
[06:36] <brendan_> i replaced it
[06:36] <smo> ok
[06:36] <smo> now
[06:37] <smo> sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[06:37] <smo> then
[06:37] <smo> sudo vi /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[06:37] <TheGhost> so i'm still confused as to how / what you want me to configure
[06:37] <tritium> !enter | smo
[06:37] <ubotu> smo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:37] <TheGhost> if you mean configuring the wireless card, then yes, i configured that correctly
[06:37] <brendan_> the chmod said the file doesnt exist
[06:38] <smo> i try
[06:38] <bigredradio> TheGhost, o.k. just checking the basics
[06:38] <smo> ??
[06:38] <TheGhost> lol
[06:38] <smo> reopen the file then push escape :wq       ....
[06:38] <smo> strange
[06:38] <brendan_> when i ran "sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/startxgl.sh" it said the file didnt exist.
[06:38] <TheGhost> the connection name in /etc/network/interfaces is ra0
[06:39] <TheGhost> and it is connected, with bars, but won't really connect to anything
[06:39] <smo> damn i m tired lol
[06:39] <smo> sorry
[06:39] <smo> first
[06:39] <brendan_> its ok
[06:39] <Iphigenia>  Hi! I have lost access to the 'Desktop Menu' both on right click on the desktop and also as an entry on the top left of the screen. Xubuntu Edgy 6.10. Is there a terminal command to reset?
[06:39] <TheGhost> sending packets at about .1KB/s when trying to load a site
[06:39] <smo> sudo vi /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[06:39] <brendan_> k
[06:39] <smo> and copy it
[06:39] <bigredradio> TheGhost, Go you have a valid ipaddress?
[06:39] <tarelerulz> valehru  where you trying to get wireless card. I have dell with TrueMobile 1180 Internal 802.11b Mini-PCI Card
[06:39] <TheGhost> eh?
[06:40] <bigredradio> TheGhost: ifconfig
[06:40] <Ryiel> greetings
[06:40] <smo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6985/
[06:40] <valehru> tarelerulz, what does lspci give you?  Is it bcm4310?
[06:40] <TheGhost> uh huh, now what
[06:40] <smo> then after saving it use the sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/startxgl.sh  restart gdm and change the sesison type on xgl
[06:40] <smo> normally it will be ok
[06:40] <Ryiel> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library <-- How do i get rid of this warning message? What's missing? I'm trying to install games. (glest) Thanks in advance
[06:41] <snowman3388> could anyone else help me?
[06:41] <bigredradio> TheGhost: can you ping your router. May just be a routing issue or dns
[06:41] <brendan_> ok i'm gonna try
[06:41] <smo> let me know...
[06:41] <cxuxl> oooh
[06:41] <TheGhost> network is unreachable
[06:41] <smo> do not selct as default for the moment
[06:41] <smo> try before...
[06:42] <cxuxl> anyone got a sec for a network install question?
[06:43] <bigredradio> TheGhost: can you ping the ipaddress that is your wireless adapter?
[06:43] <smo> what cxuxl
[06:43] <TheGhost> I don't know my wireless routers IP
[06:43] <cxuxl> when im trying to find a mirror,  says its a bad archive
[06:44] <smo> ??
[06:44] <cxuxl> trying to find a mirror for the archive
[06:44] <bigredradio> TheGhost: That is what ifconfig will tell you. sudo ifconfig
[06:44] <smo> mirror for?
[06:45] <TheGhost> i'm not seeing any IP addresses in that
[06:45] <Ryiel> No one can tell me whats this message and how to solve it? Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
[06:45] <cxuxl> u tryiong to instal a game?
[06:45] <Ryiel> cxuxl: yeah, glest
[06:45] <cxuxl> glest???
[06:46] <cxuxl> well
[06:46] <cxuxl> if it is supported under wine
[06:46] <cxuxl> then try that
[06:46] <bigredradio> TheGhost: Then your device is not configured. Try restarting the networking. sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:46] <zoidberg> anyone know how i can enable glx driver or something for a G3 powerbook
[06:46] <cxuxl> bc maybe ubuntu doesnt have all the necesary files
[06:46] <Ryiel> yeah, glest is the name of the game. wine? it's a game for linux, why should i need wine cxuxl?
[06:47] <cxuxl> its a game for linux, huh didnt read the site that far
[06:47] <smo> verify the dhcp on the router theghost too...
[06:47] <TheGhost> ok, now what?
[06:47] <Ryiel> Yeah, and i tried to install another games too but i always get this message... :(
[06:47] <smo> if u have it enabled sure...
[06:47] <cxuxl> did you compile it already?
[06:47] <brendan_> smo: didnit  work.  when i log in and select the right session it does nothing and when i select beryl through the diamond menu it gives me a white screen. but the tooltips change as if it was working.
[06:48] <brendan_> had to kill x
[06:48] <Ryiel> cxuxl: its a .run file, i thought i can just run it.
[06:48] <smo> cube working?
[06:48] <brendan_> i dont see anything
[06:48] <brendan_> just white
[06:48] <smo> press ctrl+alt+arrow
[06:48] <brendan_> lemme start it again
[06:48] <smo> ok
[06:49] <smo> strange.. damn white screen bug
[06:49] <bigredradio> TheGhost: Maybe your dhcp is not working. If your device is available, but no ipaddress
[06:49] <TheGhost> it's not
[06:49] <brendan_> now it wont start. the border of my window just flashes and then returns to metacity
[06:49] <TheGhost> my friend told me that before
[06:49] <TheGhost> so I put in the IP, gateway manually
[06:50] <Beverage> how would i go about burning an ISO in ubuntu?
[06:50] <smo> try it when the screen is all white
[06:50] <brendan_> ok
[06:50] <Pelo> Beverage,  gnomebaker
[06:50] <bigredradio> Beverage: apt-get install k3b. It's a great program for burning cds.
[06:50] <LiENUS> the !ipv6 disable doesnt appear to be working..
[06:50] <smo> k3b is old now
[06:51] <root__> lol then what do you use?
[06:51] <smo> use brasero or gnomebaker
[06:51] <root__> brasero?? does it have a plugin for amarok?
[06:51] <smo> don t know
[06:51] <smo> don t think so
[06:51] <brendan_> the cube works
[06:52] <brendan_> i can see tbe beryl logo on top
[06:52] <brendan_> the desktops however are all white.
[06:52] <smo> ok so u have the samn white screen bug
[06:52] <smo> damn*
[06:52] <brendan_> this is when i start it from the menu
[06:52] <Pelo> brendan_,  you are aware there is a beryl channel right ?  #beryl
[06:52] <brendan_> do you recomend i go there?
[06:52] <zoidberg> hey guys i have a VGA -out on my g3 powerbook
[06:52] <smo> i m often on #beryl
[06:53] <TheGhost> so, how would I fix my DHCP problem?
[06:53] <brendan_> i'l go there
[06:53] <zoidberg> how can i enable dual display or something to a monitor hooked up to the powerbook
[06:53] <smo> try change sources of yur bery and xgl
[06:53] <zoidberg> ?
[06:53] <OracleG1> Hello, anyone have any experience installing flash on 64 bit?
[06:53] <Pelo> brendan_,  they just might be more helpfull,  I 'm not shooshing you or anything
[06:53] <smo> use trevino's repository
[06:53] <smo> svn
[06:53] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[06:53] <zoidberg> can anyone help me
[06:53] <zoidberg> ?
[06:53] <zoidberg> how can i enable dual display or something to a monitor hooked up to the powerbook
[06:53] <bigredradio> TheGhost: first check that the dhcp client is running on your system. Then trouble-shoot your router. Ion your own there)
[06:53] <OracleG1> xinerama zoidberg.
[06:54] <TheGhost> how would I tell if it was running
[06:54] <Pelo> zoidberg,  if no one here responds , try the forum
[06:54] <zoidberg> OracleG1, what is that and would it work for powerpc?
[06:54] <SilentDis> !xinerama | zoidberg
[06:54] <ubotu> zoidberg: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[06:54] <bigredradio> TheGhost: I'm not sure, but I think it's a daemon. try ps -elf
[06:54] <OracleG1> Its for multiple monitors, and worst case it will because you compile it.
[06:55] <TheGhost> oh goodness, lots came up
[06:55] <OracleG1> OK- now. Who out there is running ubuntu on 64 bit?
[06:55] <Beverage> thanks for the K3b!!!! it works fantastic!
[06:55] <yell0w> !dualhead
[06:55] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[06:55] <bigredradio> TheGhost: ps -elf | grep dhcp
[06:56] <TheGhost> one thing came up
[06:56] <bigredradio> It doesn't appear t be a daemon. I looked on my system and it's running, but not as a daemon.
[06:56] <OracleG1> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:56] <OracleG1> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:56] <bigredradio> TheGhost: Might want to start googling
[06:56] <OracleG1> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:56] <airkupo> ???
[06:56] <OracleG1> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:56] <SilentDis> OracleG1, stop that please
[06:56] <Xenguy> dickhead
[06:57] <bigredradio> OracleG1: wanker knowck it off
[06:57] <Flannel> !ops
[06:57] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[06:57] <SilentDis> 3 cheers for auto flood protections :)
[06:57] <Flannel> oh, blargh.  sorry.
[06:57] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, did you also enter nameservers?
[06:57] <bigredradio> hip hip huray
[06:57] <TheGhost> nameservers?
[06:57] <airkupo> 3
[06:58] <seamus7> Is NTFS-3G a reliable way of getting read write privileges to a windows partition?
[06:58] <Jewfro-Macabbi> TheGhost, when you entered the I.P. address, there should also be default gateway, and dns nameservers
[06:58] <Hunter4242> Hey, I've got a question about creating a dual-boot setup with ubuntu, can someone help me?
[06:58] <Flannel> seamus7: it's still not 100% safe
[06:58] <SilentDis> seamus7, I wouldn't consider it "production reliable", but home use where it doesn't really matter if you loose data or not... sure.
[06:58] <TheGhost> no, default gatewaut, somekind of over something or other and IP
[06:58] <Flannel> !anyone | Hunter4242
[06:58] <goban> i added the beagle repository and installed it what now?
[06:58] <ubotu> Hunter4242: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:59] <SilentDis> Hunter4242, ask your question :)
[06:59] <seamus7> Flannel SilentDis: what's the danger ... what are the common problems that might arise?
[06:59] <cpk1> seamus7: keep in mind you can read from ntfs no problem
[06:59] <Flannel> seamus7: corruption
[06:59] <Hunter4242> All right, I'm setting up a brand new computer with dual boot, Ubuntu and XP, basically I want to know which i should install first
[06:59] <cpk1> XP
[06:59] <SilentDis> seamus7, corruption problems mostly.  data loss writing to the NTFS partition and such, as they haven't gotten the journalizing (if you can call it that) right yet.
[06:59] <airkupo> whats wrong with dual boot??
[06:59] <airkupo> it works
[07:00] <seamus7> Flannel: as an alternative, would a FAT32 partition allow me to transfer files between ntfs and ext3
[07:00] <Flannel> seamus7: actually, I stand corrected.  Looks like they released a "stable" version today.
[07:00] <Flannel> seamus7: no idea what their definition of "stable" is though
[07:00] <SilentDis> Hunter4242, Windows is my recommendation.  saves you hand-editing a grub list later ;)
[07:00] <cpk1> seamus7: ext would let you transfer between windows and linux =)
[07:00] <FatherTyme> Does anyone have an estimate on the next point release for Dapper?
[07:00] <seamus7> Flannel: I saw the word stable on their site but wondered what that meaned exactly
[07:00] <cpk1> seamus7: you can get an ext driver for windows
[07:00] <Flannel> seamus7: Only they'd know.  Well, they might have info on the site
[07:01] <SilentDis> seamus7, if you need read/write... it's almost better to put the EXT2 drivers into windows, rather than the NTFS drivers into linux.
[07:01] <seamus7> ext is better than FAT32 to use as a go between partition between windows and ubuntu?
[07:01] <q_a_z_steve> What's the latest beta and the codename?
[07:02] <q_a_z_steve> What does LTS stand for???
[07:02] <Hunter4242> All right, thanks. Next question: Will I have to do anything special to get ubuntu to read the extra HD I'm going to use to transfer data over? It's currently NFTS formatted
[07:02] <cpk1> feisty fawn and it's still alpha
[07:02] <SilentDis> seamus7, EXTx is a VERY nice file system.  not perfect, but pretty close imo. I've yet to have major problems with it. :)
[07:02] <Emilius> hi
[07:02] <Hunter4242> NTFS, even
[07:02] <jmworx> tritium: Sorry, was away. So what's the plan to do that. It's been in this state for quite a while
[07:02] <kitche> seamus7: vfat is good also for a go between if you wish
[07:02] <Jewfro-Macabbi> q_a_z_steve, LTS = Long term support
[07:02] <Emilius> Can anyone explain me the difference between "recommended" and "proposed" updates? I saw it nowhere in any manual...
[07:02] <cpk1> Hunter4242: you can read it just fine but writing to ntfs isnt really recommended
[07:02] <tritium> elkbuntu: already did that
[07:02] <SilentDis> q_a_z_steve, Ubuntu 7.04 (Fiesty Fawn) ALPHA Herd4.  check out #ubuntu+1 :)
[07:02] <q_a_z_steve> 6.06 lts I guess...
[07:03] <seamus7> SilentDis: sorry ext? ... i know ext3 of course ... which do you mean...
[07:03] <Hunter4242> I don't plan to write to it, it's just faster than burning CDs will all my data
[07:03] <airkupo> anyone here done a network install b4??
[07:03] <SilentDis> seamus7, EXT3 is EXT2 with journalizing.  EXT2 windows drivers can read/write to EXT3 fine, just without updating the journal.
[07:03] <cpk1> seamus7: therre is ext2 (no journaling) and ext3 (journaling) you can mount an ext3 file system as ext2 since it is backwards compatable
[07:03] <q_a_z_steve> what's herd?
[07:03] <Flannel> Hunter4242: readnig NTFS is plenty fine.  Ubuntu should do it by default
[07:03] <cpk1> compatible*
[07:04] <airkupo> old release
[07:04] <Joseph_Ponte> ?
[07:04] <airkupo> err new
[07:04] <seamus7> ...and ext2 allows me to read and write from both windows and linux?
[07:04] <Flannel> q_a_z_steve: a herd is a group of Fawns, in this case, each pre-release is designated as a "herd"
[07:04] <SilentDis> Hunter4242, what Flannel said.  if you don't need to write, Linux reads NTFS without issue.
[07:04] <cpk1> seamus7: if you get the windows driver for it, yes
[07:04] <Joseph_Ponte> hi everybody, Do you know how to install ububtu in USB?
[07:04] <airkupo> ext2 is good for grub, bc easy to recover, you dont wont your main FS on that...
[07:04] <goban> how come beagle isnt finding anything?
[07:04] <SilentDis> seamus7, yes.  there's drivers available for Windows to let you read/write to an EXT2 or 3 file system
[07:05] <Hunter4242> All right. Thanks for the help everyone.
[07:05] <SilentDis> Joseph_Ponte, LOL!  I just was reading up on that myself!  let me grab you linkages :)
[07:05] <Matthai> Joseph_Ponte, there are good tutorials for that, Google it.
[07:05] <airkupo> why would you want windows being able to write to ur linux??
[07:05] <airkupo> thast just saying hey, rape me
[07:05] <seamus7> SilentDis: is it reliable ... more so than NTFS-3G???
[07:05] <SilentDis> airkupo, I never said it was a good idea ;)  but some people want to do it :)
[07:06] <airkupo> lol
[07:06] <SilentDis> Joseph_Ponte, check this page out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[07:06] <seamus7> airkupo: sometimes I download things by mistake onto windows and then realize i meant it for linux/unbuntu
[07:06] <snowman3388> you guys know you want to help me
[07:06] <Jewfro-Macabbi> seamus7, in my experience, it's best to write files in the native system only, ie drag windows files to linux from linux. Or drag linux files to windows from windows. check out: Explore2fs-1.08beta9
[07:06] <airkupo> silent you got any tips for a network install?
[07:06] <Flannel> !install | airkupo
[07:06] <ubotu> airkupo: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:07] <airkupo> i have looked
[07:07] <SilentDis> seamus7, if that's the case, Ubuntu reads NTFS without trouble right from the get-go.  you don't need to write to EXT2 at all.  it's just another 'feature' if you want it :)
[07:07] <airkupo> thast why i intsllaed this irris to get here >.<
[07:07] <raygan>  Hey, I'm a relative newbie with some install questions, is anybody here willing to try and give me a hand?
[07:08] <snowman3388> help me too!
[07:08] <SilentDis> raygan, always.  just ask your question, don't bother asking to ask it :)
[07:08] <Victorr> hello all, does anyone know how to convert OGG files to MP3?
[07:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Victorr, try the program "sound converter"
[07:08] <seamus7> SilentDis: you're right of course .. i forgot that ... what about a usb flash drive ... would i need to format it in a specifric go between file system to be able ot move files in between operating systems?
[07:09] <vnux> erm, I'm trying to compile wlan-ng and I just did a apt-get install linux-sources-2.6.17 and it tells me this...any ideas?
[07:09] <vnux> Linux source tree /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17/ is incomplete or missing!
[07:09] <vnux>     The kernel header files are present, but not  the full source code.
[07:09] <vnux>     See the HOWTO for a list of FTP sites for current kernel sources.
[07:09] <seamus7> raygan: what's the question?
[07:09] <Victorr> Jewfro-Macabbi, thanks for the pointer!
[07:09] <SilentDis> seamus7, I still use FAT32 for my pendrives, just for portable compatiblity (I can go from win95b/win98/winnt/winxp/winvista/linux/mac/etc with ease that way)
[07:10] <seamus7> SilentDis: good idea .. i was wondering what people do .. that makes sense
[07:10] <raygan> ok, here goes. I've installed Ubuntu on a partition and have been able to boot to it, but I'm not able to use the keyboard or mouse to get past he login screen. This seems odd to me because I was able to use the keyboard to do the install (i used the text based install)
[07:10] <raygan> I've tried another mouse
[07:10] <snowman3388> I'm having trouble with grub it comes up with an error 21 or error 17 when grub starts. I was editing my /etc/fstab file would that do anything?
[07:10] <SilentDis> !build-essential | vnux
[07:10] <ubotu> vnux: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:10] <Jewfro-Macabbi> snowman3388, yes that might do something... what did you do
[07:10] <snowman3388> I was trying to take out a hard drive that was dying
[07:10] <Savage-{> I just thought of a solution for windows apps for linux... setup a Windows 2003 Server with Terminal Services and run windows applications through the Terminal Client in linux
[07:11] <SilentDis> raygan, usb keyboard/mouse?
[07:11] <Savage-{> that should work
[07:11] <raygan> no it's not USB
[07:11] <Jewfro-Macabbi> snowman3388, is there a backup of your etc/fstab? look for one with a ~ after the filename?
[07:11] <raygan> neither the keyboard nor the mouse is USB
[07:11] <SilentDis> !who | raygan
[07:11] <ubotu> raygan: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[07:11] <snowman3388> yeah I made one a long time ago
[07:11] <snowman3388> I restored it but I still can't get it to boot
[07:12] <SilentDis> raygan, both are PS2?
[07:12] <raygan> SilentDis: yes, both are PS2
[07:12] <airkupo> ubotu: can u actually lend a hand instead of websites??
[07:12] <Jewfro-Macabbi> snowman3388, sounds like you've got some issue with your etc/fstab file
[07:12] <Rhynri> hey, i got a quick question.  I set up my Samsung CLP-510 (i dunno if i did it right or not) but now it shows up, however when i send print jobs to it, it says the jobs are stopped.
[07:12] <airkupo> i dont know how to change windows for PMs
[07:13] <airkupo> T.T
[07:13] <snowman3388> can I pm you jewfro?
[07:13] <SilentDis> raygan, only thing I can think of is a mucked xorg.conf or the like... which is REALLY odd.  did you make any recent changes in that regard?
[07:13] <SilentDis> airkupo, those websites are actually a LOT of help usually.  that's why ubotu hands them out :)
[07:14] <Jewfro-Macabbi> snowman3388, this is a bit out of my knowledge range. I can only advice you to do a "sudo fdisk - l" find your primary hdd, and make sure that's still listed in your fstab file
[07:14] <airkupo> um, ya ive been there. Thast why im here...
[07:14] <karsten> Anyone with a stock install can tell me how many packages are installed by default?  W/ and w/o libs.  'dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 == "install" | wc -l; dpkg --get-selections | gawk '$2 == "install" && $1 !~ "^lib"' | wc -l
[07:14] <snowman3388> I think it is but I'll play around with it some more and mess it up;)
[07:15] <SilentDis> karsten, sorry, my 'stock installs' last all of 4 minutes usually.  I'll be of no help :(
[07:15] <Jewfro-Macabbi> snowman3388, check the wiki page for a default configuration to go by.
[07:15] <ardchoille> SilentDis: hahaha, mine last less than that.
[07:15] <muuhBDX> can i have basic programs working in linux ?
[07:15] <karsten> SilentDis: Isn't the stock install defined via a tasksel or set of same?
[07:16] <muuhBDX> vbasic
[07:16] <SilentDis> karsten, nooooo i'm on dialup, it takes ages!  lol
[07:16] <ardchoille> muuhBDX: No
[07:16] <karsten> muuhBDX: Maybe.
[07:16] <snowman3388> jewfro, it's just that I have three hard drives and I'm not sure if everything corresponds to the right drive or not
[07:16] <SilentDis> karsten, well... the desktop is.  (ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, etc)... not sure if the base OS is or not.
[07:16] <yell0w> !mono
[07:16] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.17.1-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[07:16] <karsten> muuhBDX: http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/02/21/visual_basic_mono_linux/
[07:16] <muuhBDX> isnt that leegal ?
[07:16] <yell0w> !mono | muuhBDX
[07:16] <ubotu> muuhbdx: please see above
[07:17] <karsten> SilentDis: Dig.
[07:17] <snowman3388> jewfro, it looks right to me but it's the only thing that I think could be wrong with it
[07:17] <muuhBDX> isnt vbasic MS ?
[07:17] <ardchoille> yell0w: I don't believe vb apps can run in Linux even with mono
[07:17] <karsten> muuhBDX: There's an announced-today Novell project supporting vb w/ Mono.
[07:17] <muuhBDX> is i made one program MS is gona sue me
[07:17] <karsten> ardchoille: ^^
[07:18] <ardchoille> karsten: I wouldn't buy/use a product from a traitor company
[07:18] <karsten> ardchoille: I wouldn't pay 'em money at this point if I could help it.
[07:18] <karsten> ardchoille: ... but their free software is as green as anyone elses.
[07:18] <ardchoille> Is it from Novell?
[07:18] <karsten> ardchoille: RTFL
[07:18] <muuhBDX> can i use this Mono vbasic on other distros other then suse with out being sued ?
[07:19] <ardchoille> VB is a product from M$ and I refuse to use their crap.
[07:19] <yell0w> muuhBDX, I believe so. check mono's licence
[07:19] <karsten> muuhBDX: Gee, I didn't realise this was #novell-legal-department.
[07:19] <SilentDis> karsten, wait a min...  there's not much difference between the live CD and a base install... try booting off that and counting :)
[07:19] <karsten> muuhBDX: Why don't you check with Novell on that?
[07:19] <karsten> SilentDis: Hrm.
[07:19] <karsten> SilentDis: I was hoping someone else would do the dirty work ;-)
[07:20] <SilentDis> karsten, lol
[07:20] <fullmetal> hi
[07:20] <SilentDis> karsten, you'll be off by 5-10 or so... but it'll give you a pretty close picture of it.
[07:20] <bfdhud_> I'm having a weird firefox issue, While i'm browsing the internet the browser will lockup and the browser window goes grey (kind of like when you log out of a vbulleting BB). After a few minutes it will give me the option to force quit
[07:20] <fullmetal> anyone got a sec for an install?
[07:20] <snowman3388> by chance would mounting my linux drive from the ubuntu live cd mess up my /etc/fstab file?
[07:20] <bfdhud_> none of my settings have changed recently, This literally just started today
[07:20] <karsten> SilentDis: I'd have to find a livecd and reboot.  But that could happen.
[07:20] <karsten> snowman3388: No.
[07:21] <bfdhud_> when I booted up after school, anyone have any ideas?
[07:21] <fullmetal> is there a reason why i would be gettin a bad arciove mirror?
[07:21] <karsten> bfdhud_: There's a word for that.
[07:21] <fullmetal> archive
[07:21] <karsten> bfdhud_: It's a bug.
[07:21] <ardchoille> karsten: lol
[07:22] <SilentDis> bfdhud_, something get caught in the cache or the like?  have you tried clearing it recently?  some other app causing issue maybe, tried restarting GDM and/or a reboot?
[07:22] <Victorr> snowman3388, grub panics when it doesn't find a partition it knows about, I have had the same happen to me.  Sadly I have no solution for you, other than restoring your configuration to what it was.  Try reading on grub.
[07:22] <karsten> bfdhud_: What if any extensions do you have in FF?  What specific URLs are showing that behavior?  Try disabling extensions, javascript, java, plugins, see if any of those fix the problem.
[07:22] <karsten> bfdhud_: Note that FF may upgrade extensions with relatively little notice.
[07:22] <snowman3388> victorr-thanks, could I just # out everything except my main hd, would I have better luck getting it to work that way?
[07:23] <karsten> bfdhud_: You might also check your syslogs for any sig11 or Northbridge errors.
[07:23] <ardchoille> Is there an app that can take apart a. mpeg so the user can remove frames?
[07:23] <karsten> ardchoille: Might try one of the video editors.
[07:23] <SilentDis> bedtime for me.  g'night all :)
[07:23] <karsten> ardchoille: Eg:  Kino.
[07:23] <bfdhud_> SilentDis, Karsten I don't know about the cache, I have not installed any other app in over a week, I have completely powered off and powered back on still did it. My FF extensions were adblock plus and gmail notifier, it did it for every url randomly. digg, tribalwar, bleach exile.
[07:23] <Victorr> snowman3388, I do not know, I'm pretty ignorant on grub.. after my incident, I decided to stick with lilo :-)
[07:24] <bfdhud_> If this was a windows PC I would think I had a virus
[07:24] <snowman3388> okay thanks
[07:24] <karsten> bfdhud_: Try launching under strace then.  You're going to want to log output, and there's going to be absolutely tons of it.
[07:24] <bfdhud_> Karsten I have no idea what under strace means, I'm a noob
[07:25] <karsten> bfdhud_: You can also attach gdb to the process, but without debugging symbols (eg:  if 'file <path>/firefox-bin' tells you it's a stripped ELF binary there's not much good'.
[07:25] <karsten> bfdhud_: 'man strace'.
[07:25] <karsten> bfdhud_: trace system calls made by an executable.
[07:25] <karsten> bfdhud_: Basically tells you what a given process is doing.
[07:25] <lovloss> if i want to start learning opengl, what is the library i should dl? sudo apt-cache search opengl  lists so many libraires; anyone know whats a good one?
[07:26] <karsten> bfdhud_: Alternately, you can launch FF, and attach strace to its PID when it's hung and see what it's doing.  Again, copious output, but less than if you launch FF.
[07:26] <bfdhud_> so strace firefox-bin?
[07:26] <karsten> bfdhud_: Sec.
[07:26] <Victorr> lovloss, probably mesa, but that is just a wild guess
[07:26] <karsten> bfdhud_: Launch FF normally.
[07:27] <lovloss> ok
[07:27] <bfdhud_> done
[07:27] <Victorr> bfdhud_, don't bother, or at least not yet, first use firefox as another user, and see if you get the same problems...
[07:27] <karsten> bfdhud_: ps waux | awk '/[f] iref/ {print $2}'
[07:27] <karsten> bfdhud_: ... gives you the PID.  Should be one value.
[07:28] <karsten> bfdhud_: 'strace -p <PID>'
[07:28] <bfdhud_> looks like an infinite loop going across my terminal window
[07:29] <bfdhud_> Victorr I am the only user, should I create a new one to test this
[07:29] <Victorr> bfdhud_ yes
[07:29] <ardchoille> karsten: Thanks, I see pino and pitivi in the repos. Visited both homepages, saw that kino has won many awards.
[07:29] <karsten> ardchoille: kino is pretty good, I've used it a little.
[07:30] <ardchoille> karsten: Ah, yeah, ok
[07:31] <MybEvil_> I can program in java, on ubuntu can't I?
[07:31] <bauer77> MybEvil_: yes
[07:31] <MybEvil_> ok, thanks
[07:31] <bauer77> MybEvil_: you can program in just about anything
[07:32] <MybEvil_> C++?
[07:32] <bauer77> yes
[07:32] <bauer77> perl, python, etc etc
[07:32] <snowman3388> if I have 3 ide drives, hda hdb and hdc. If I take out hdb will hdc become hdb?
[07:33] <meangirls> heloo guys
[07:33] <snowman3388> by take out I mean physically take out of my computer
[07:33] <karsten> bfdhud_: Can launch that under strace but it's a bit complicated w/ firefox in particular.
[07:33] <karsten> snowman3388: No.
[07:33] <snowman3388> it stays the same?
[07:33] <meangirls> helow...?
[07:33] <karsten> snowman3388: Drives are assigned by which ATA controller/cable they're on.
[07:34] <snowman3388> oh good thanks a lot
[07:34] <karsten> snowman3388: Well, if it doesn't change, what options does that leave you with?
[07:34] <bauer77> hello meangirls
[07:34] <snowman3388> karsten, what do you mean?
[07:34] <eelmoo> Hello
[07:34] <eelmoo> investigating
[07:34] <karsten> snowman3388: What I say.
[07:35] <snowman3388> karsten, I think it means I don't know what's wrong?
[07:35] <meangirls> helo bauer77 .nice name
[07:35] <bfdhud_> Karsten I reinstalled FF and cleared the cache. So far so good, but i'm doing some heavy surfing to see if its fixed
[07:35] <snowman3388> I'll be back soon enough if it doesn't work
[07:35] <snowman3388> thanks a lot
[07:36] <karsten> bfdhud_: One other trick is to remove your profile (just renaming it is enough), restart FF, and see if that fixes the problem.
[07:36] <karsten> bfdhud_: Often there's something in your profile that's bugging FF.  Move a few files back at a time to see which causes the problem.
[07:37] <vnux> whats the package where I can find stdlib.h an stdio.h ?
[07:37] <crimsun> libc6-dev
[07:37] <vnux> and*
[07:37] <vnux> thx
[07:37] <karsten> vnux: aptitude search <term>
[07:38] <bfdhud_> karsten thaks, I'll see what I can do. I'm glad to know its FF fault and not ubuntu. I don't think i could afford another re install
[07:38] <vnux> karsten, even for file names inside the package?
[07:38] <meangirls> huei... does anybody read me..
[07:38] <karsten> bfdhud_: This is Linux.  Reinstalls aren't required.
[07:38] <bfdhud_> hmm spoke to soon
[07:38] <karsten> vnux: apt-cache is your friend.
[07:38] <bfdhud_> still borked
[07:38] <vnux> didn't know it did this
[07:39] <karsten> vnux: ... erm, apt-file, I mean, I think....
[07:39] <vnux> k
[07:39] <elkbuntu> tritium, sorry, couldnt see it in the ban list
[07:39] <karsten> vnux: Yeah, apt-file, or oddly enough, auto-apt, which has an even faster find feature.
[07:39] <vnux> YESSSSSSSS!!!
[07:39] <vnux> I got it!
[07:39] <vnux> thanks
[07:40] <tritium> elkbuntu: :)
[07:40] <vnux> damn, bad thing to "I'm sure I have the default C libs...come on"
[07:40] <karsten> That's Ubuntu with a twm desktop....
[07:40] <bauer77> bfdhud_: thats why a image is grand :-)
[07:40] <elkbuntu> tritium, you hit a different hostmask to me
[07:40] <meangirls> hix hix...
[07:41] <tritium> elkbuntu: you're right
[07:42] <elkbuntu> tritium, in fact, i can see you op then deop without enforcing a ban, so im guessing you missed :-/
[07:42] <bfdhud_> This is really frustrating
[07:42] <tritium> elkbuntu: he was gone, but the ban should be there
[07:43] <tarelerulz> I want to know how easy it is to use bit torrent in  ubuntu . The reason Is I have friend I would like to get into linux ,but he is hard sale
[07:43] <rb007> I've used Konqueror for FTP and like it... I just reinstalled Dapper and now for some reason it won't FTP (can't connect).  Is there something you have to do to Konqueror in GNOME to get it to FTP?
[07:43] <bauer77> same as windows tarelerulz
[07:43] <phaedra> tarelerulz,  Very easy.
[07:44] <bauer77> personally I think its better than windows
[07:44] <shorty114> bauer77, really?
[07:44] <shorty114> i miss utorrent when i use linux
[07:44] <shorty114> azureus is heavyweight
[07:44] <puki> hi
[07:44] <defrysk> shorty114, try ktorrent
[07:44] <bauer77> I just seem to get better speeds
[07:45] <raygan> does anyone know the meaning of "Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 114924something"  when trying to boot the livecd?
[07:45] <defrysk> shorty114, go to ktorrent.org for the latest package for your distro
[07:45] <shorty114> defrysk, i'll have to check that out, thanks
[07:45] <tarelerulz> So Ktorrent has all the normal stuff you would want
[07:46] <defrysk> ktorrent is a proper basic utorrent one could say
[07:46] <shorty114> tarelerulz, it's the basic torrent client. if you want there's azureus
[07:46] <shorty114> which is common with windows users too
[07:46] <tarelerulz> That is good
[07:47] <tarelerulz> I may get him over to linux one day
[07:47] <tarelerulz> He is really picky and not wanting something to work on
[07:47] <tarelerulz> all the reason I like linux
[07:48] <tarelerulz> I don't think the torrent would be easy enough
[07:48] <ledemente> Hello everyone, I'm having a rather big issue with Ubuntu.
[07:49] <tarelerulz> What man
[07:49] <tarelerulz> I wish I could get my wireless card
[07:49] <sexxy> really..
[07:49] <ledemente> I can't get past the second boot stage, mounting root. or something
[07:50] <tarelerulz> and Nothing seems to work
[07:50] <ledemente> Three other times I've had this happen and I had to reinstall and I lost data.
[07:50] <sexxy> hello ledemente.. nice nick name..
[07:50] <ledemente> tarelerulz: are you talking to me?
[07:50] <ledemente> sexxy: thankyou. o_O
[07:51] <tarelerulz> I am just talking out load
[07:51] <ledemente> Oh.
[07:51] <sexxy> ledemente: you're welcome.. hehehe..
[07:51] <tarelerulz> I am really lost on the wireless card
[07:51] <ledemente> So, I can't seem to get past that stage, except if I go to rescue mode. But then it finds disk errors.
[07:51] <tarelerulz> I think I am going to go to ndiswrapper room and ask them
[07:51] <ledemente> Even though I've reinstalled 3 times.
[07:52] <tarelerulz> If I get that working
[07:52] <sexxy> all: guys, what are you talking about  ?
[07:52] <ledemente> I'm just asking for help getting my box running again.
[07:52] <ledemente> I can't even use a live CD, it pauses at the same stage.
[07:53] <Byan> does anyone know of a way to automatically change a site from black on white to white on black?
[07:53] <sexxy> ledemente:wahat a pitty..
[07:53] <ledemente> sexxy, do you enjoy using too many letters? ; )
[07:54] <ledemente> Byan... I believe you're in the wrong room.
[07:54] <sexxy> ledemente: hm.. yes i do
[07:54] <ledemente> I can't look this up on google either.
[07:54] <sexxy> byan: why you can in the wrong room.
[07:55] <pavs_> Offtopic question: Anyone know how much RHCE and RHCT exam costs to take?
[07:55] <bestadvocate> hello
[07:55] <puki> who cares of RHCE something?
[07:56] <ledemente> Oh! and although it doesn't do it anymore, it used to take way too long to find the drives on bootup.
[07:56] <pavs_> puki its a question you dont have to care about it. I do care however.
[07:56] <bestadvocate> Hey I was just running feisty, is feisty talk supposed to be in a diffrent channel?
[07:56] <puki> did linus or rms pass the RHCE?
[07:56] <ledemente> sexxy, welcome back.
[07:57] <madhenry> How can I install the .rpm packages?
[07:57] <ledemente> alien
[07:57] <bestadvocate> i doubt rms would go through rhce....
[07:57] <pavs_> why does them passing or not passing anything has anything to do with me? Did they get laid when they were young? I dont know I dont care. whats your point?
[07:57] <sexxy> ledemente: hehehe...
[07:57] <xerroz> is there some way i can install ubuntu on top of an already existing ubuntu? (looking to setup a system to debug)
[07:58] <ledemente> Is there perhaps a way to rescue a damaged disk?
[07:58] <Byan> err, yeah, oops
[07:58] <Byan> wrong window
[07:58] <bestadvocate> xerroz: you could try upgrading?
[07:58] <sexxy> ledemente : where are you now.?
[07:58] <ledemente> I'm under rescue mode, I can only use the CL.
[07:59] <xerroz> bestadvocate: why would i want to upgrade? i want to setup a system so i can debug it..
[07:59] <bestadvocate> xerroz: oh i thought... well never mind then
[07:59] <madhenry> Does anyone know how to install .rpm packages in ubuntu?
[07:59] <ledemente> madhenry ALIEN!
[07:59] <xerroz> bestadvocate: hey not a problem =)
[07:59] <puki> haha
[07:59] <unop> puki,  why would they ever need a RHCE? :) they really don't need it because they arent system administrators .. what a question?
[07:59] <sexxy> madhenry: i don't know
[08:00] <madhenry> sexxy, why?
[08:00] <puki> if they needn't, why do we need?
[08:00] <ledemente> madhenry, why what?
[08:00] <sexxy> madhenry, what do you mean why?
[08:00] <ledemente> puki, shut up. What you're saying is stupid.
[08:00] <monzie> hi all
[08:00] <madhenry> omg :D
[08:00] <madhenry> is it possible?
[08:00] <puki> -_-
[08:00] <monzie> i am configured the fglrx driver as per the ubuntu wiki instructions
[08:00] <bestadvocate> Does anyone else have a problem with the Restricted kernels not being automatically loaded into the Grub configuration when installed in Feisty?
[08:00] <sexxy> madhenry, yeah.. i'm comfuse
[08:01] <unop> puki,  because we (metaphorically) have to prove our competency
[08:01] <monzie> yet the command "fglrx" produces the info
[08:01] <sexxy> monzie, hi..
[08:01] <monzie> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:01] <madhenry> sexxy, i'm the one who should be confused :D
[08:01] <monzie> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[08:01] <monzie> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[08:01] <monzie> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:01] <monzie> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[08:01] <monzie> hi sexxy
[08:01] <sexxy> madhenry, hehehehe...
[08:01] <tritium> !enter | monzie
[08:01] <ubotu> monzie: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:01] <sexxy> hi monzie, how r u..
[08:02] <pavs_> I am serious about going for a career as system admin, I am still in college and trying to learn more everyday. Thats why I wanted to know about RHCE, to make my resume look "preety"
[08:02] <monzie> sexxy: fine.
[08:02] <madhenry> sexxy, but please tell me how to install .rpm packages
[08:02] <madhenry> :D
[08:02] <monzie> madhenry: use alien to convert rpm to .deb
[08:02] <monzie> and then install them
[08:02] <QRZ> madhenry: You need to install the alien package.
[08:02] <puki> maybe, unpack it?
[08:02] <sexxy> madhenry.. alien
[08:02] <wilburthewino> hello all
[08:02] <Lunis> well, this may or may not be the place to ask this but... I'm trying to copy some existing Maildir files from one server to a new one with a fresh postfix/courier/mysql server... everything's working ok except i can't see any of the old folders... any suggestions?
[08:02] <madhenry> sexxy, thanks.. now I get it
[08:02] <QRZ> madhenry: sudo apt-get install alien
[08:03] <sexxy> monzie, where are you know
[08:03] <puki> you should get the source first
[08:03] <VolkerOS> crashhhhhh
[08:03] <unop> madhenry,  you should try finding a .deb for the particular package first
[08:03] <monzie> sexxy: i am in bangalore
[08:03] <sexxy> madhenry, you're welcome
[08:03] <monzie> sexxy: do i know you?
[08:03] <puki> I don't use any pre-compiled stuff
[08:03] <notsmack> i can't get networkmanager to work with my wpa network...
[08:03] <sexxy> monzie, wow.. bangalore.. nice to meet u
[08:03] <monzie> could someone please help me out with a display driver problem please?
[08:03] <con-man> !botabuse | ubotu
[08:03] <ubotu> ubotu: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:03] <monzie> sexxy: and where do you stay?
[08:03] <con-man> lolololol
[08:03] <unop> monzie,  sexxy -- please move this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:04] <sexxy> monzie, i don;t know u and u don't know me
[08:04] <syntaxx> im looking for a way that i could find the file size of all the files that have been found by find / -mtime -3 but putting -exec du -chL {} is showing the total of each file found not the grand total anyone here who can help me?
[08:04] <wilburthewino> but  im has a  a  buzzzzzy  bee  lol
[08:04] <sexxy> monzie i'm in indonesia
[08:04] <sexxy> unop, how r u..
[08:04] <unop> syntaxx,  man du (for the -s flag)
[08:06] <syntaxx> unop: yeah it shows the file found size not the grand total of all files that have been found
[08:06] <monzie> could someone please tell me how to get 3d acceleration going in amd64? i have ATI radeon xpress 200M
[08:06] <notsmack> networkmanager asks for the key, but then just does its spinner for a while then asks for the key again.  any way to get more information?
[08:06] <wilburthewino> anyone  have  any  details  on  ubuntu s   top  side    ie  windows  graphics  that  sort  a thing
[08:07] <autoexec> monzie, there is a how to in the forums
[08:07] <monzie> autoexec: i have followed that line by line!
[08:07] <unop> syntaxx,   du -c | grep -i total   or du -s
[08:07] <autoexec> i have the same card in my laptop, so it is possible, u just gotta experiment a bit
[08:08] <wilburthewino> if  you use  the new  mepis  is  the  command  line  stuff  different
[08:08] <monzie> autoexec: could you just paste your xorg.conf somewhere please?
[08:08] <autoexec> where
[08:08] <tritium> !paste
[08:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:08] <autoexec> ok
[08:09] <autoexec> hang on
[08:09] <syntaxx> unop: yeah but find -mtime -2 -exec du -ch {} ;\ will produce a file found because of {} if i removed the {} it will go into continous loop
[08:09] <wilburthewino> anyone  care  to comment  on the mepis  distro  going to  ubuntu
[08:10] <syntaxx> unop: and adding -c to du will show the size of each file found not the grand total of all the files
[08:10] <wilburthewino> hmmmm  anyone??
[08:10] <autoexec> monzie: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7000/
[08:10] <monzie> wilburthewino: you can probably ask in #mepis
[08:11] <monzie> autoexec: thanks a ton!
[08:11] <wilburthewino> monzie
[08:11] <wilburthewino> id think it  would be just a swell to ask here
[08:11] <unop> syntaxx,  ehh? thats not what i see here
[08:11] <madhenry> I'm having a lot of dependency problems when trying to install packages... Does anyone know how to fix that?
[08:11] <tritium> Please, no surveys, wilburthewino
[08:12] <wilburthewino> im wondering  about that   as well
[08:12] <syntaxx> unop: try the command find / -mtime -3 -exec du -ch {} \;
[08:12] <unop> syntaxx,  how about this? it seems to work  find . -mtime -2 -exec du -ch {} \+;
[08:12] <wilburthewino> trit  im wondering about  dependency problems
[08:12] <wilburthewino> using  mepis
[08:12] <monzie> autoexec: which laptop do you have ?
[08:12] <monzie> madhenry: what sort of problems, could you please put up the output in the pastebin?
[08:12] <wilburthewino> are  their dependency problems  using  new  mepis with  ubuntu???
[08:13] <autoexec> the general model is a compaq presario v2000
[08:13] <madhenry> monzie: pastebin?
[08:13] <autoexec> do you want the specific name?
[08:13] <monzie> autoexec: thanks. i'm on a HP nx6325 here
[08:13] <syntaxx> unop: woah it works! thanks!
[08:13] <unop> syntaxx,  why are you using -h to du there, you're wasting cycles and increasing output -- if you want a grand total, use du -s or du -c
[08:13] <monzie> autoexec: i just wanted to check if the screen size is ok
[08:13] <autoexec> its doing the right res and ratio
[08:13] <syntaxx> unop: -h is for human readable size right?
[08:14] <syntaxx> unop: i missed the + though
[08:14] <unop> syntaxx, sorry -c i mean -- not -h
[08:14] <wilburthewino> glad    ubuntu  people  are  so  friendly  tells  me     just  what  to expect  of the  new  mepis  distro
[08:14] <unop> yea -h = human readable
[08:14] <Mena> how to make loading karamba themes doesnt appear in the taskbar
[08:15] <wilburthewino> ill pass  it  on  to my  readers
[08:15] <syntaxx> unop: it works now thanks a lot! its been 2 days since i started this problem heh
[08:15] <unop> syntaxx, yw :)
[08:16] <monzie> autoexec: you have 1280x768 while mine can do only 1024x768
[08:16] <autoexec> monzie: just cut those modes out then
[08:16] <slipstream3d> hello, anyone here use Squid on Ubuntu Server?
[08:17] <monzie> autoexec: is it possible to crank up the resolution of the laptop?
[08:17] <autoexec> monzie: past native, no
[08:17] <QRZ> slipstream3d: yes
[08:17] <slipstream3d> Do you know why the repository only has 2.6.1 when 2.6.9 has been out for ages and has some MAJOR bug fixes?
[08:18] <monzie> autoexec: is there a command for determining what the max resolution is? or should i just let it be what the install set it to?
[08:18] <madhenry> monzie, where's the pastebin?
[08:18] <Nos4> nice ubuntu glad to c this room
[08:18] <autoexec> monzie: im not sure
[08:18] <QRZ> slipstream3d: Nope!  Sorry.  :-)
[08:18] <slipstream3d> i.e. to the point where Squid does not work for me at all :(
[08:18] <Nos4> not a bad sys atall
[08:18] <monzie> madhenry: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:18] <monzie> madhenry: will come back in min. need to restart my X
[08:19] <Nos4> ok so this rooms just an ad huh
[08:19] <QRZ> slipstream3d: Apparently they aren't too major because I've been using it on my Hoary server for like 2 years now without any problems!
[08:19] <Landon> Hey all, I downloaded and installed the adesklet yab, the icon scroll bar for the desktop, anyone know how I can customize it?
[08:19] <QRZ> slipstream3d: Perhaps you don't have it configured properly?
[08:20] <slipstream3d> Squid will not even start for me in the default configuration, in my previously-working configuration from Gentoo linux, or in a number of different tutorial situations
[08:20] <oritemis> hi guys. there are a deb of cairo-dock in somewhere? I was searching for, but don't discoveried that yet.
[08:21] <QRZ> slipstream3d: What do the logfiles say?  Any clues in them?
[08:21] <slipstream3d> Unfortunately I've nuked the system since the last time I tried it (other problems), but I seem to remember the logfiles simply ending after "starting..." then the process just... disappeared
[08:22] <slipstream3d> Perhaps I'll try it again (again). Le sigh.
[08:22] <QRZ> slipstream3d: Well, I think if you were to look at squid's logfile, you would have seen what was wrong.
[08:23] <slipstream3d> QRZ: no, that's what I'm saying. The logfile didn't have any errors, the program just up and disappeared. I think it said it segfaulted once.
[08:24] <QRZ> slipstream3d: Next time you attempt it, if it still gives you trouble, look in /var/log/squid for clues.
[08:24] <franky> is there a command to change the resolution to a widescreen format
[08:24] <aum> hi - ubuntu is not creating a file in /dev for my parport
[08:25] <aum> device manager shows 'ECP printer port', but it's not creating a /dev file for it
[08:25] <QRZ> slipstream3d: Well, I've never had it segfault on my server.  Perhaps there are issues with later versions than what I am running.
[08:25] <uber`xxiiv> hi -- i ubuntu for a server only box and we are trying to figure out how to update clamav -- its been saying for a week we have a old version but there is nothing new in the repos for it -- anyone got a clue where to get the new packages at?
[08:27] <defrysk> franky, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , run the defaults until you see the resolution setup , select your desired resolution, then continue with the defaults till done, then restart x
[08:27] <krinns> hi all
[08:27] <krinns> i have ubuntu install all good
[08:28] <krinns> i have some prb my webiste uses embeded java tagging
[08:28] <uber`xxiiv> hi -- i use ubuntu for a server only box and we are trying to figure out how to update clamav -- its been saying for a week we have a old version but there is nothing new in the repos for it -- anyone got a clue where to get the new packages at?
[08:28] <krinns> which firefox wont support
[08:28] <krinns> any idea
[08:28] <oritemis> I thinked this was the ubuntu support channel.
[08:28] <vegasmcpc> what's the command to add a mount point?
[08:28] <defrysk> !java | krinns
[08:28] <ubotu> krinns: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:28] <krinns> konqueror works but some time gets crashes
[08:28] <oritemis> I am sorry to take your time.
[08:29] <oritemis> With no sense questions.
[08:29] <mwe> Is it possible to rename the Applications menu or remove the label all together?
[08:29] <krinns> u mean
[08:29] <MTecknology> I just installed vmware server 1.0.1 on ubuntu 6.10. I am trying to connect to the VM through putty. Since that's not working, I'm trying to ping the vm instead.... anyway - i am not able to connect to the VM using Host Only or NAT... Any ideas? - My VM's are WInXPPro and FC6.
[08:29] <krinns> updating java wil solve my prb
[08:30] <nnliu> does any1 use a logitech G15 keyboard?
[08:30] <oritemis> will you at least answer me a good night if a curse you?
[08:31] <ashwin2882> krinns: do mean java applets are not working in firefox?
[08:31] <krinns> yup
[08:31] <uber`xxiiv> hmm anyone have a answer for my question ?
[08:31] <unska> is there a lightfx plugin for linux that allows me to control my dell xps m1710 leds?
[08:31] <Cryoniq> Anyone have the Realplayer 10 installed on Edgy? I just installed it and it just tell me Segmentation fault (core dumped) when trying to execute it.. *shrug*
[08:31] <krinns> as what i think
[08:31] <slipstream3d> cryoniq: eww, realplayer?
[08:31] <Cryoniq> yeah I know!
[08:32] <slipstream3d> I haven't touched Realplayer since version 5, and I'm sorry I didn't kill it sooner
[08:32] <ashwin2882> krinns: install jre from sun website & follow the instructions there to get java working in firefox
[08:32] <Cryoniq> But need it for a crappy news site streaming news feed over that.. other choice was WMA and that is just true failure..
[08:32] <slipstream3d> you can install other programs that will read the Real stream
[08:32] <ashwin2882> the url would be www.java.com or java.sun.com
[08:33] <defrysk> ashwin2882, no there is a package in the ubunturepos
[08:33] <slipstream3d> I don't know about Linux, unfortunately, but Real Alternative for Windows kicks arse
[08:33] <mwe> !java
[08:33] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:33] <krinns> what if i do apt-get install sun-java-jre5
[08:33] <ashwin2882> krinns: you can also use synaptic to get it working
[08:33] <thcmonkey> how do i get my nickname password sent to my e-mail adress (yes i did register e-mail)
[08:33] <thcmonkey> ?
[08:33] <krinns> whats synaptic
[08:34] <defrysk> krinns, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[08:34] <krinns> all done
[08:34] <mwe> nobody knows how to rename the Applications menu?
[08:35] <unop> mwe,  probably is one of the .desktop files in /usr/share/{applications,menu}
[08:35] <oritemis> I had a directory inside my home dir. how do I put it into path variable?
[08:35] <mwe> unop: I'll check
[08:35] <Chobotron> does anyone know if my broadcom wireless nic will work with the ubuntu edgy livecd?
[08:35] <unop> oritemis,  add a line like this to your ~/.bashrc  export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/dir
[08:36] <ashwin2882> krinns: apt-get will work if you have the enabled necessary repos
[08:36] <defrysk> krinns, sudo update-alternatives config java and select javaversion matching your javaversion
[08:36] <oritemis> unop, thank you.
[08:36] <ashwin2882> krinns: synaptic gui equivaalent of apt-get
[08:36] <Cryoniq> slipstream3d, oh.. that is nice to hear. Any suggestions? =)
[08:37] <Almindor> hey again :)
[08:37] <Cryoniq> Those programs also have  plugins so that it works in firefox? =)
[08:37] <unop> oritemis,  this'll probably only work for your bash shell/scripts that use bash -- but you should be able to use the same in other rc files
[08:37] <oritemis> ok
[08:37] <mwe> unop: hmm. grep doesn't find it there.
[08:37] <Almindor> I got one remaining problem, for whatever reason, my second NIC changes between "eth1" and "eth2" with reboots
[08:37] <Almindor> and it completly ruins my settings on it :(
[08:37] <tritium> Almindor: is it not specified by MAC address in /etc/iftab?
[08:38] <unop> mwe,  well, i'd try and look but i dont have gnome installed .. run a recursive grep maybe?
[08:38] <Almindor> tritium, sec.
[08:38] <ashwin2882> How do i get mac os X looks on edgy & beryl
[08:38] <erpo> How can I set up my system so that I can run ./program.exe instead of running wine ./program.exe?
[08:38] <mwe> unop: I did ;)
[08:38] <Almindor> unop, yup, unspecified in there
[08:38] <mwe> unop: I'll try over all of /usr/share
[08:38] <unop> Almindor,  ???
[08:38] <Almindor> unop, should I add it manualy?
[08:39] <Almindor> unop, there's no entry for eth1
[08:39] <Almindor> (currently it's eth1 and it works)
[08:39] <unop> Almindor,  wasnt someone else helping you?
[08:39] <Almindor> unop, ?
[08:39] <Almindor> any help is appreciated :)
[08:39] <unop> erpo,  create a script named ./program.exe running the command  wine ...
[08:40] <QRZ> Almindor: put, "eth1 mac <mac_address>" in your /etc/iftab
[08:41] <unop> Almindor,  i think you need to follow tritium .. he was guiding you -- i'm a little alarmed you just pick me out of the blue :) follow tritium
[08:41] <tritium> Almindor: ?
[08:41] <Almindor> ooo
[08:41] <Almindor> right sorry, I got you mixed up
[08:41] <Almindor> added the mac, but shouldn't it be added automagicly by udev?
[08:42] <tritium> No, iftab isn't touched by udev.  That should be setup at intsall, as far as I know.
[08:42] <Almindor> ah that explains it, the NIC was added yesterday
[08:42] <tritium> I shouldn't say it's not touched.  udev _uses_ it, but doesn't configure it
[08:43] <Almindor> ok, one more bothersome question
[08:43] <Almindor> what soft is used for wireless net detection?
[08:44] <tritium> Almindor: the easiest solution is to intsall and use network-manager-gnome
[08:44] <Almindor> ah ok, thanks
[08:44] <tritium> s/intsall/install
[08:44] <devin_> anyone know how i can point my ut2003 installer to my cdrom. i tired mounting and just running the installer but i get ( mount: /dev/ is not a block device
[08:48] <MybEvil_> Anyone have any suggestions for an IRC client to use?
[08:49] <QRZ> MybEvil_: Text or graphical?
[08:49] <tritium> MybEvil_: irssi for text, xchat for graphical
[08:49] <MybEvil_> i'd want graphical
[08:49] <MybEvil_> i'm using irssi atm
[08:50] <tritium> QRZ: :)
[08:50] <MybEvil_> lol, i'm trying to decide whether or not to try to partition
[08:50] <MybEvil_> cause I don't wanna screw up and loose windows :/
[08:50] <tritium> It's pretty safe, MybEvil_
[08:51] <QRZ> Graphical is good, but it's hard to beat screen + irssi!  :-)
[08:51] <tritium> precisely
[08:51] <MybEvil_> on the last step...
[08:51] <MybEvil_> I don't understand what to do lol
[08:52] <MybEvil_> well, stop 5 of 6
[08:52] <MybEvil_> I don't know what to select for the last option
[08:52] <Spo8> I know the beryl room is a better place to ask this, but it's empty and I'd love to resolve this tonight.  Once I launch beryl, I get all the effects and everything, but the frames to every window just disappear.  So they all have no title, minimize, maximize, or close buttons, which also means they can't be dragged anywhere.  Anyone know what the problem is?
[08:53] <cableroy> Hi i want to assgin windows key + l for lock screen as in windows, trying to add it in keyboard shortcuts in gnome, but i can't assign l to it, the windows key is known as Super_L. any suggestion how to accomplish this?
[08:54] <kelsin> cableroy: do you mean that as soon as you try to type win+l in the shortcuts it just puts Super_L and is done? so you set the windows key alone to that shortcut?
[08:55] <cableroy> yes, only pushing windows key also gives the same, Super_L so if accidentally push windows key it lock my screen
[08:56] <kelsin> goto prefernces / keyboard
[08:56] <Ryiel> greetings
[08:56] <kelsin> under the layout options tab, go under "Alt/Win key behavior" and select "Super is map[ped to the Win-keys (default)"
[08:56] <kelsin> then it should work how you want
[08:57] <Ryiel> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library <-- I've got this warning message when i tried to install glest. (www.glest.org) It's a game. How to make this locale supported by C library? Thanks!
[08:57] <cableroy> kelsin, yes it did, thank you very much
[08:58] <kelsin> cableroy: np
[08:58] <Kaso> is there a way to unlock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock fuser shows no processes using it, and i dont want to have to restart
[09:00] <Ryiel> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library <-- What should i install or update to get rid of this message?
[09:01] <cableroy> kelsin, trying win key+l does not work, it got maped as <Mod4><Hyper>l but does not lock my screen
[09:03] <someguy> hi
[09:03] <someguy> auch da?
[09:03] <Prez_> hello
[09:03] <sinion> hallo
[09:03] <sinion> good morning everybody
[09:04] <Prez_> running edgy pretty well, want to compile custom kernel and mostly got 2.6.20.1 running, except for 3945 wireless...
[09:04] <Prez_> i am having problems compiling 3945 modules separtely
[09:04] <Prez_> not sure if i added 80211 stack correctly..
[09:04] <sinion> i have a question concerning the installation of ubuntu on an acer aspire notebook 1692 WlMi
[09:05] <kelsin> cableroy: you're right, it's not working for me either, I honestly don't know why though, Metacity keybindings are working, but not windowskey beinings in the Desktop section :-(
[09:05] <Prez_> also for Centrino Duo processor, which shoudl I choose, pentium-m?
[09:05] <sinion> what can i do, to make the graphics system work? everytime i boot the live-cd, the screen turns off
[09:06] <cableroy> kelsin, ok i'll google for it, if i find out i'll tell ya
[09:07] <Almindor> anyone knows if it's worth it to try and use latest ati drivers (from yesterday even o.O) or just keep with the repos old ones?
[09:07] <y0hm> sinios ; if you boot from cd , at the boot prompt you can set other graphical modes which might work
[09:08] <sinion> so...where do i find these modes?
[09:09] <slipstream3d> Woohoo! I got Squid working! Sort of.
[09:09] <y0hm> sinion , I think you need to press F2 or F3 or F4 for alternate install modes ( which include graphical modes )
[09:09] <slipstream3d> It works perfectly if I configure the web browser to use 192.168.0.1:3128 as a proxy
[09:09] <y0hm> sinion , you might need to get the alternate install cd for the boot options  , i'm not sure
[09:09] <slipstream3d> ...but if I set up transparent proxying, i get the message: Unable to forward this request at this time
[09:10] <sinion> thanks a lot, yohm, i'll try that out:)
[09:12] <Prez_> someone running edgy with 2.6.20.1 kernel and wifi support for intel 3945?
[09:13] <slipstream3d> Oh wait. That's the bug they fixed in 2.6.2 from 2.6.1. Does anyone have a source for a .deb of Squid newer than 2.6.1?
[09:13] <koth> Hi there, this is the only channel i am joinning on this server, i need some help from the OP. My home IP got banned saying that i was clonning. what should i do?
[09:15] <kraut> moin
[09:15] <DarthLappy> koth: You might want to do "/stats p" and message a staffer about that.
[09:16] <koth> you mean pm the staff?
[09:16] <DarthLappy> koth: Yeah, there should be somebody on that list.
[09:16] <compengi> !paste
[09:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:17] <y0hm> I'm impressed at how snappy Edgy runs on my 1st generation G3 ppc with 192MB ram ,compared to osx
[09:17] <mojojojo__> cd c##
[09:17] <koth> DarthLappy: what is the command to do a PM in irc?
[09:18] <koth> DarthLappy: /tell?
[09:18] <DarthLappy> koth: /msg
[09:18] <DarthLappy> I guess it would depend on your client actually :)
[09:18] <koth> thanks
[09:18] <koth> =)
[09:20] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu Edgy and the package vnc4server. When I start a vncserver it stops with a font error msg. Then I found a wiki entry about editing /etc/vnc.conf (adding $fontpath) but the error msg still appears. Btw: The files from the wiki entry (/usr/share/X11/fonts/) don't exist. Any idea?
[09:20] <Cryoniq> phew.. RealPlayer 10 was pure crap.. didnt even start.. just tossed core dump in my face.. luckily mplayer and mozilla plugin saved the day :P
[09:21] <Cryoniq> Wonder when ever realplayer will deliver anything good.. wasnt exactly even nice in windows either.. ~
[09:21] <igge> hello
[09:22] <NoEvidenZ> I'm building a linux from scratch system. Does anyone know anything about it? I want to know, when you're building all the tools, are they meant to be on your LFS partition, or on your distro's partition? (eg, my Ubuntu partition)
[09:22] <igge> how is it possible to put the display to sleep a certain time of day and have it wake up at another time?
[09:23] <NoEvidenZ> You could just turn off your screen. Or did you mean stop the gdm or something?
[09:24] <y0hm> Cryoniq : you mean besides the spyware & crappy codec support ?  :)
[09:24] <NoEvidenZ> igge: Try going into a tty and typing /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:24] <NoEvidenZ> igge: I don't know if that's what you're after.
[09:24] <DarthLappy> igge: You can play with dpms and a cronjob.
[09:27] <igge> DarthLappy: ah ok.. how do I play with dpms? i.e. what command do I use and so?
[09:27] <DarthLappy> igge: Hmm... I'll have to have a look. I've done it, but it's been a while.
[09:27] <mwe> Hi. I'm trying to figure out how to rename the Applications menu to no avail so far. Does anyone know how to do it?
[09:28] <y0hm> I'm using Ubuntu Edgy_PPC ,fully updated ,I installed VLC ,but it is unable to play any video , it crashes when it starts playing ... Any tips ?
[09:28] <igge> DarthLappy: ah ok.. would very much appreciate it, if you would want to do that
[09:29] <eviltux> gnite
[09:32] <DarthLappy> igge: You'll want to look at the dpms option of xset
[09:32] <igge> DartyhLappy: ah ok...
[09:33] <cmh0101> hi i'm having trouble with beryl causing gnome-panel to freeze at startup, anyone know how i can fix this? AIGLX effects work just the gnome login panel stays there for awhile
[09:33] <DarthLappy> igge: eg xset dpms force off will blank your screen until you move the mouse
[09:33] <geoaxis> hello people
[09:33] <geoaxis> I am trying to get the command ar in live cd
[09:33] <geoaxis> is there any way
[09:34] <igge> DarthLappy: yey! it worked.. :)
[09:34] <igge> DarthLappy: but is there not a more gnome:ish way to do it you think?
[09:34] <DarthLappy> igge: :) But you might want to actually look at the details of it to see if there is a better way to do that.
[09:34] <DarthLappy> igge: I don't actually use Gnome :)
[09:35] <igge> DarthLappy: ok
[09:35] <old_cymuHep> !
[09:36] <igge> DarthLappy: there is a program called gnome-power-preferences... wounder where that program writes its configuration
[09:36] <jochu1> is there a way to check if apt-get installed everything ok?
[09:37] <old_cymuHep> !!ProFTPD
[09:37] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[09:37] <DarthLappy> igge: I wouldn't really know, sorry.
[09:38] <igge> DarthLappy: ok.. thanks anyways... the xset way works at least
[09:38] <|Z_E_R_O|> do u know if it is possible to installa ubuntu from a flash usb 256 mb?
[09:40] <vlt> I set "$fontpath = /usr/share/fonts/X11/..." in  /etc/vnc.conf but when I start vncserver it complains about missing "/usr/share/X11/fonts/" (that's a different path). What's wrong here?
[09:40] <NoEvidenZ> By default, who owns /dev/?
[09:41] <unop> vlt,  whats wrong with setting   fontpath=/usr/share/fonts/X11/
[09:41] <unop> ?
[09:42] <vlt> unop: nothing, I did that (except for the leading "$" from the used perl syntax in he conf file)
[09:43] <unop> vlt,  no i mean -- "$fontpath = /usr/share/fonts/X11/" instead of "$fontpath = /usr/share/fonts/X11/..."
[09:44] <unop> errm, do i see a typo there?
[09:45] <foormea> !burn
[09:45] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:47] <Neil3> hey all, have tried googling for this but can't find an answer - can evolution's weather calendar function support places outside the US/Virgin Islands?
[09:48] <SillyG> anyone here?
[09:49] <SillyG> what does alt+printscreen+b do in gnome?
[09:49] <vlt> unop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH?highlight=fontpath
[09:49] <vlt> unop: That's what I added to /etc/vnc.conf
[09:49] <jochu1> !newsclient
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newsclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <jochu1> !news
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <SillyG> does anyone know what does alt+printscreen+b does?
[09:50] <vlt> unop: But that paths doesn't exist on my system. It's rather called /usr/share/fonts/X11
[09:50] <tahsin> why does it say invalid theme archive when i try to install "login-scan-splash.tar.gz" with kdm theme manager?
[09:50] <vlt> unop: I'm running Edgy
[09:51] <unop> vlt,  well, whats what i mean, use that path there /usr/share/fonts/X11
[09:51] <unop> vlt, the font lookup should be rather recursive and dig into subdirectories
[09:52] <vlt> unop: Yes, I did that: I replaced every "/X11/fonts/" by "/fonts/X11("
[09:52] <tahsin> why does it say invalid theme archive when i try to install "login-scan-splash.tar.gz" with kdm theme manager?
[09:52] <RockClimber> I'm after a recommendation for a pda that place nice (or better) with ubuntu (linux in general too), would like to edit odf files on the move.
[09:52] <tahsin> why does it say invalid theme archive when i try to install "login-scan-splash.tar.gz" with kdm theme manager?
[09:52] <unop> vlt,  dont guess, use the paths that exist on your system
[09:53] <tahsin> why does it say invalid theme archive when i try to install "login-scan-splash.tar.gz" with kdm theme manager?
[09:54] <vlt> unop: On my system there's a path /usr/share/fonts/X11/ containing 100dpi and others.
[09:54] <tahsin> ?
[09:54] <vlt> unop: the error msg vncserver gives m is: "Could not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list!"
[09:54] <vlt> unop: It's still looking i the wrong path.
[09:54] <vlt> in*
[09:55] <tahsin> ?
[09:55] <tahsin> why does it say invalid theme archive when i try to install "login-scan-splash.tar.gz" with kdm theme manager?
[09:55] <unop> vlt,  hmm, there must be another declaration of $fontpath that either supercedes the one you specify or is appended on .. i'm not so sure
[09:56] <unop> vlt,  let's have a look at your /etc/grep.conf .. use a !pastebin to show us
[09:57] <unop> err.. /etc/vnc.conf :) sorry
[09:57] <yaman> need help [09:58] <yaman> need help [09:59] <vlt> unop: There are only the lines from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH?highlight=fontpath (| sed 's/\/X11\/fonts/\/fonts\/X11/g')
[09:59] <ardchoille> yaman: We heard you the first time :)
[09:59] <SillyG> why is alt-printscreen-b so finicky for me in gnome?
[10:00] <yaman> i c
[10:00] <unop> vlt,  i dunno, manually verify that the paths specified in $fontpath exist or that you provide symlink for those missing directories
[10:01] <vlt> The paths exist, maybe I should try symlinking, thanks.
[10:01] <yaman> no one knows how to bring back the shutdown button ?
[10:02] <unop> yaman,  ask the folks in #kde perhaps?
[10:02] <yaman> unop: thanx
[10:02] <unop> yaman,  or #kubuntu even
[10:02] <vlt> unop: symlinking did it.
[10:02] <unop> vlt, :)
[10:03] <ricky> hello, ada member yg aktif?
[10:03] <ricky> saya pengguna baru utk ubuntu
[10:03] <unop> ricky,  what language is that?
[10:03] <ricky> indonesia
[10:03] <ricky> sorry
[10:04] <duckdown> Hi all... Interesting problem here (SSH GURUS please read) I have been creating means of tunneling all of my regular internet by using the "ssh -D#### tunnel.host.com" and evertyhing is great.. Except for one thing; no matter which shell provider I connect to, I can't seem to pull in more than like 90kb/s when downloading through the tunnel.  I have tested with various sources and there is NO restrictionsin place; is this some kind o
[10:04] <duckdown> f limitation to the SOCKS5 proxy?
[10:04] <mariano> does /etc/ubuntu on 6.10 not put DISPLAY in env_keep ?
[10:06] <unop> !id
[10:06] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[10:09] <devin_> Hey all!! Im having trouble trying to figure this out! Im trying to install ut2003 and everytime i run the installer i get mount: /dev/ is not a block device im guess it has something to do with being an out dated installer and its looking in the wrong place but im not sure how to work around it
[10:09] <Mithsir> Hi. I need to run qemu un "user emulation" mode. However, this mode is not NPTL-compatible, so I need to prepend LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.19. However, this gives me errors about libm.so.6 not being found. I guess I don't have the corresponding glibc installed. What can I do?
[10:11] <[reed] > How do I see what package a file is part of using apt?
[10:13] <Flannel> [reed] : dpkg -S [filename] 
[10:13] <Landon> Hey all, quick question, what's the command to get an lib item from a website?
[10:13] <old_cymuHep> how to uninstalll ProFTPD???
[10:13] <[reed] > Flannel: ever heard of /bin/su not being installed in a new edgy install?
[10:13] <sajt> apt-get autoremove proftpd
[10:14] <sajt> or apt-get autoremove --purge proftpd
[10:14] <Flannel> [reed] : shrug.  I don't have edgy, but it wouldn't be unheard of I guess.  Ubuntu uses sudo.
[10:14] <Quilby> !nx
[10:14] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[10:14] <[reed] > correct, I know
[10:14] <Quilby> !freenx
[10:14] <Quilby> ah
[10:14] <Quilby> i have a question
[10:14] <Landon> Hey all, quick question, what's the command to get a lib item from a website?
[10:15] <Landon> Anyone know?
[10:15] <Quilby> i am running gnome. can i install an application thats made for kde?
[10:15] <unop> lib item?
[10:15] <Flannel> [reed] : but, it is.  it's in the "login" package
[10:15] <Landon> py-libmpdclient 0.10.0 - http://www.musicpd.org/py-libmpdclient.shtml
[10:15] <old_cymuHep> sajt it says E: Invalid operation autoremove
[10:15] <[reed] > Flannel: yeah, but I have a guy that doesn't have /bin/su, but has login package installed
[10:16] <Flannel> Quilby: yep.  No problem.  The only thing is that it'll drag in a bunch of KDE libs with it, so your first KDE package will be a large download
[10:16] <Landon> It's like getnw or something
[10:16] <Flannel> [reed] : then he manually deleted it, and a reinstall of the package should replace it
[10:16] <[reed] > Flannel: what's the apt command to reinstall a package without first uninstalling it?
[10:16] <old_cymuHep> sajt it says E: Invalid operation autoremove
[10:16] <sijmen> I've setup an Ubuntu installation to function as a (part-time) backup machine. However, everytime I rsync over SSH with my Mac all files seem to be copied again
[10:16] <Landon> unop: Anything?
[10:17] <sijmen> Could it be something with the timestamp or so?
[10:17] <Flannel> [reed] : apt-get install --reinstall login
[10:17] <old_cymuHep> sajt it says E: Invalid operation autoremove
[10:17] <[reed] > thanks
[10:17] <unop> Landon,  you mean wget?
[10:17] <old_cymuHep> how to uninstalll ProFTPD???
[10:17] <Kenshirov> qulcuno parla italiano?
[10:17] <unop> Landon,  wget http://mercury.chem.pitt.edu/~shank/py-libmpdclient-0.10.0.tar.gz
[10:17] <unop> !it
[10:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:17] <Landon> wget! That's it!
[10:17] <Landon> unop: Thanks
[10:17] <Kenshirov> ok
[10:17] <unop> yw
[10:18] <old_cymuHep> how to uninstalll ProFTPD???
[10:18] <sijmen> now I'm killing rsync
[10:18] <sijmen> i'ts deleting loads of files :S
[10:18] <unop> old_cymuHep,  sudo aptitude remove proftpd
[10:18] <sijmen> *it's
[10:18] <Flannel> !repeat | old_cymuHep
[10:18] <ubotu> old_cymuHep: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:19] <Landon> unop: How do I unpackage that and install it?
[10:19] <unop> !compile
[10:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:19] <unop> Landon,  ^^
[10:20] <Landon> Hahaha, thanks unop :P
[10:24] <Neil3> !evolution
[10:24] <ubotu> evolution: The groupware suite. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 5022 kB, installed size 38204 kB
[10:25] <old_cymuHep> how i can geti in my FTP by interne browser? what is the addres form? i installed vsftpd
[10:26] <old_cymuHep> is it ftp://mydomain.com
[10:26] <old_cymuHep> ???
[10:26] <old_cymuHep> it dont gets into that addres
[10:26] <Enselic``> Is there a way to restart X (Ctrl + Alt + Backspace) without all programs in the session getting killed?
[10:26] <old_cymuHep> ;(
[10:27] <Enselic``> old_cymuHep: try ftp.mydomain.com
[10:27] <Flannel> old_cymuHep: if you have your DNS setup, yes.  Otherwise it'd be your IP
[10:27] <Flannel> old_cymuHep: either on the real interblags, or your LAN IP
[10:27] <Flannel> and, if it's the former, you may need to port forward on whatever router you may have
[10:29] <old_cymuHep> Flannel its not opening
[10:29] <baki> heloo
[10:29] <old_cymuHep> tryed IP and domain...
[10:29] <baki> is anybody from PL??
[10:30] <Flannel> old_cymuHep: did you follow all the instructions?
[10:30] <old_cymuHep> Flannel you said DNS?
[10:30] <old_cymuHep> Flannel yes
[10:30] <Flannel> old_cymuHep: if your IP doesn't work, your DNS wont
[10:30] <old_cymuHep> Flannel IP works web is OPNENING
[10:31] <old_cymuHep> Flannel just FTP dont works...
[10:31] <bariel> hello, i have many .c files in different folder, is it possible using Makefile to tell him traverse all directory under src/ and compile everything ended with .c?
[10:31] <old_cymuHep> !FTP
[10:31] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:31] <Flannel> old_cymuHep: FTP server and HTTP server are entirely different.  You're trying to FTP through a browser?  Did you enable anonymous FTP?
[10:31] <serengeti> hello, i've just installed dapper server on my old via mvp3 motherboard (k6-2 550, additional CMD ide controller) and the thing is that as soon as grub loads the kernel, the system simply restarts
[10:31] <old_cymuHep> Flannel what is the best FTP server?
[10:32] <serengeti> any clues? i've tried acpi=off already
[10:32] <old_cymuHep> flannel hmmm
[10:32] <hume> hi...I am trying to set up an encrypted disk partiotion that is to be mounted at boot, but during boot I get error msg - it seems the prompt for passphrase appears behind splash screen and then boot stops with error msg, I am directed to a maintenance shell - anyone got advice on this? I followed instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[10:32] <Flannel> old_cymuHep: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html  those are the instructions.  Sounds like you didn't follow all of them ;)
[10:33] <K|NgGh0sT> Hello, was wondering if I'm currently running a LVM, build on a 250 and a 300 gig drive... if I wanted to add 2 more drives and convert to a raid 05 lvm... can I do this without losing data?
[10:33] <Quilby> !Python\
[10:33] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[10:34] <Quilby> !7.04
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 7.04 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <Flannel> !feisty
[10:34] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:34] <Quilby> thanks flannel
[10:34] <Quilby> What does ubotu mean when he says that feisty is in alpha?
[10:35] <Flannel> Quilby: it's still alpha software (alpha is before beta), very unstable.
[10:35] <Quilby> oh ok
[10:35] <serengeti> hume, have you tried disabling the splash screen?
[10:35] <Quilby> i have a question
[10:36] <hume> serengeti, just found out about it...:) in /boot/grub/grub.conf?
[10:36] <serengeti> yep thats right
[10:36] <Flannel> !ask | Quilby
[10:36] <ubotu> Quilby: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:36] <hume> but I don't have a grub.conf
[10:37] <Quilby> in the menu manager it says that a certain program (that i just installed) should be in the menu ( a subfolder of internet)  but i cant see it in the actual menu....
[10:37] <Flannel> hume: /boot/grub/menu.lst on Ubuntu
[10:37] <Quilby> what do i do?
[10:37] <soulfreshner> I'm looking for a way to make apt-get look at a different database when it checks for installed packages
[10:37] <soulfreshner> is there a way to do something like that
[10:37] <soulfreshner> ??
[10:38] <oem__> hey guys i am definely lost
[10:38] <Tomcat_> soulfreshner: Sure, replace /var/lib/apt with something else.
[10:38] <oem__> i am a new user in Linux
[10:38] <oem__> and I just cant figure out why my browser scrolls up and down so slow
[10:38] <soulfreshner> Tomcat - is that all?
[10:38] <Flannel> oem__: you don't want the OEM install, you want the "Desktop" install (first option on the alternate CD)
[10:38] <hume> Flannel, how do I disable it there? is it the "quiet" option after the menu item?
[10:38] <eelmoo> Hello
[10:39] <eelmoo> I'll find out
[10:39] <Flannel> hume: disable what?
[10:39] <Tomcat_> soulfreshner: Not sure if I understood you right... maybe you could give some more details?
[10:39] <oem__> desktop install.....so what do i do now
[10:39] <hume> Flannel, the spash screen so I can enter my passphrase for encrypted partition
[10:39] <soulfreshner> the idea is to download all the files needed for my machine at home from my work network
[10:39] <oem__> i had a text install and oem install
[10:39] <very`tired> i did a install dist-upgrade and now my X doesn't work anymore
[10:39] <very`tired> anyone?
[10:40] <old_cymuHep> Flannel i followed the instructions and it says  when i gi through internet explorer   eindows cannot access this folder.
[10:40] <soulfreshner> so the packages should be downloaded based on the packages installed at home, in stead of at work...
[10:40] <hume> very`tired, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[10:40] <Flannel> oem__: if you don't want to reinstall, that's fine.  You just need to run "oem-config-prepare" and reboot
[10:40] <Flannel> oem__: then the text install, sorry.
[10:40] <soulfreshner> Tomcat: a crude way to do something like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OfflineUpdateSpec
[10:40] <very`tired> hume: trying that
[10:40] <hume> serengeti, how do I disable the splash screen there, in menu.lst?
[10:41] <oem__> text install what does that do flannel
[10:41] <Flannel> oem__: OEM install is meant for computer mfcs, so they can configure stuff and let the end user create their own user and stuff, once they get it
[10:41] <very`tired> hume: are default settings usually correct? cause for X server driver i have vesa (not a clue what that is)
[10:41] <Flannel> oem__: it installs the normal desktop system
[10:41] <old_cymuHep> Flannel i followed the instructions and it says  when i gi through internet explorer   eindows cannot access this folder.
[10:41] <hume> very`tired, the upgrade should have saved your previous xorg.conf as a backup, could check differences?
[10:41] <oem__> so whats the procedure...
[10:42] <oem__> do i reinsert my cd
[10:42] <very`tired> hume: where is it located?
[10:42] <oem__> and do text install over top of it
[10:42] <serengeti> hume, i'll look it up in a moment
[10:42] <hume> very`tired, check earlier xorg.conf, it depends,
[10:42] <Flannel> hume: quiet makes the stuff it tells you a lot less (anti-verbose), removing the "splash" optiong gets rid of the splash screen
[10:42] <hume> very`tired, /etc/X11
[10:42] <old_cymuHep> !FTPserver
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftpserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <old_cymuHep> !ftp
[10:42] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:42] <soulfreshner> Tomcat: do you think I can just tar.gz var lib apt on my home machine, and replace it on my work server? - and obviously revert when I am finished...
[10:42] <serengeti> hume, basically there's a splashimage or splash option
[10:42] <old_cymuHep> !nautilus
[10:42] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 586 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[10:42] <serengeti> ahh it's been already said :)
[10:42] <hume> ok
[10:43] <old_cymuHep> !FTPd
[10:43] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:43] <very`tired> hume: is it wise to simply overwrite the current xorg with the old one?
[10:43] <hume> very`tired, no, save a copy
[10:43] <Flannel> oem__: that'd work.  Or if you don't want to reinstall at all, open a terminal, "sudo oem-config-prepare" and then once that's done, reboot
[10:43] <old_cymuHep> !ftpd
[10:43] <oem__> alright
[10:43] <old_cymuHep> !proftpd
[10:43] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[10:44] <very`tired> hume: X is starting now
[10:44] <hume> very`tired, :)
[10:44] <very`tired> hume: my entire desktop is gone though :<
[10:44] <oem__> alright rebooting i might ask more questions later thanks FLannel
[10:44] <hume> very`tired, check differences between the two xorg,conf files
[10:44] <very`tired> hume: whats the command for that again?
[10:45] <_wooz> hi all
[10:45] <hume> very`tired, you could use meld or kompare
[10:46] <very`tired> hume: neither works
[10:46] <old_cymuHep> !cvs
[10:46] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[10:46] <krantix> hi! i have a problem with ndiswrapper... it says hardware present and drive ok, but i cannot load my belkin card... anybody can help me? eth1 shows up but does no discovery...?!?! thanks!!!!
[10:46] <hume> very`tired, manually inspect them, check for video driver etc
[10:46] <_wooz> I followed this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305665 (FGLX installation on Edgy with Radeon9600 R350 4150).. and I got "Direct Rendering: no" with "glxinfo | grep direct" command
[10:46] <old_cymuHep> !wu-ftp
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wu-ftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <old_cymuHep> !wu-ftpd
[10:47] <ubotu> wu-ftpd: powerful and widely used FTP server. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.6.2-24 (edgy), package size 276 kB, installed size 792 kB
[10:47] <very`tired> hume: is it also possible my nvidia driver was killed? i didn't get the splash and i can't set the resolution properly
[10:48] <hume> very`tired, possible, quite possible. the closed source driver?
[10:48] <_wooz> someone are an idea?
[10:48] <very`tired> hume: i had a beta driver (quite old i believe)
[10:48] <very`tired> hume: back in the day to support beryl etc
[10:49] <krantix> can anybody help with ndiswrapper?
[10:50] <hume> very`tired, probably you need a newer driver then
[10:50] <_wooz> I got "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"" with "glxgears -printfps"
[10:50] <very`tired> hume: how do i go about doing that?
[10:51] <cmh0101_> hi guys =)
[10:51] <very`tired> hume: i know why my desktop is gone btw :P i'm logged in as root, as i was root when i called startx
[10:51] <hume> very`tired, don't know, don't use them. I guess there is a closed source driver in the multiverse repos, or you download from nvidia site...
[10:51] <hume> very`tired, i belive there is some howto about it at the ubuntu wiki
[10:52] <cmh0101_> Synaptic thinks that my computer is runnig i386 when it has the lastes kernel and is running i686 how can i change this so i can install programs in Add/Remove?
[10:52] <rylan> hey, how do i setup a new user and have everything in chinese
[10:52] <very`tired> hume k thx
[10:54] <rylan> anyone here that is not lurking?
[10:54] <theholyduck> probaly not
[10:54] <Landon> Anyone around who can help me solve the DUMBEST THING I HAVE EVER DONE?
[10:54] <theholyduck> Landon, just ask
[10:54] <lukketto> rylan: no!
[10:54] <very`tired> hume: btw, what is the most likely reason that an update messed up my xorg.conf?
[10:55] <Landon> There was this package, I sudo apt-get installed it, and then hit yes, and it started removing a bunch of stuff
[10:55] <Landon> I mean a BUNCH
[10:55] <Landon> It was going to clear up about 502 MB worth of stuff if I let it continue
[10:55] <Landon> It probably got about half
[10:55] <hume> very`tired, dont know, but possibly problems with video driver, I'd say
[10:55] <Landon> But as of now, I don't have gnome-terminal
[10:55] <Landon> Some of my programs are gone
[10:55] <Landon> No gnome-terminal
[10:55] <Landon> But, i have Konsole
[10:56] <Neil3> ctrl+alt+F1, Landon
[10:56] <Neil3> get into a real terminal :)
[10:56] <Neil3> ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to x
[10:56] <Landon> Hahaha, then IRSSI back here?
[10:56] <Neil3> or irssi
[10:56] <Landon> Well, what do I do even in that Terminal?
[10:56] <rylan> hey, how do i setup a new user and have everything in chinese
[10:57] <Landon> This is probably the worst thing ever
[10:57] <Neil3> you could check out the apt log file (i forget the name) but its in /var/log
[10:57] <Neil3> then reinstall all the packages it says were removed
[10:57] <Landon> Details: Error reading file 'file:///usr/share/applications/nautilus-home.desktop': File not found
[10:57] <Landon> I don't even have a home folder anymore?
[10:58] <Neil3> what if you try cd ~
[10:58] <Neil3> then type pwd
[10:58] <Landon> I'm in /var/log
[10:58] <Landon> Which one is the log?
[10:59] <very`tired> how can i see my current kernel?
[11:00] <Neil3> dpkg.log
[11:00] <_Rno__> Hello. I've just installed Edgy and done all updates. Few months ago, I used Dapper, and on this one I've got a 'Disks' entry on the administration menu which helps me to mount / unmount my hard drives. How can I add it on the Edgy ?
[11:00] <Neil3> type less dpkg.log
[11:00] <Neil3> then hit the end key to get to the bottom
[11:01] <Landon> I can still gedit it
[11:01] <Neil3> Landon, hm you could try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop as that's a metapackage containing lots of stuff
[11:02] <heikki> very`tired: uname -r
[11:02] <Neil3> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop of course... :)
[11:02] <old_cymuHep> what is the best ftp servr?
[11:02] <Landon> Neil3: I tried that, it gave me something weird
[11:02] <Neil3> damn
[11:03] <Landon> Neil3: It says it has unmet dependency's
[11:03] <Neil3> try sudo apt-get update
[11:03] <Neil3> then try installing again
[11:03] <JaccoH> hi ppl
[11:04] <Landon> As soon as it gets to "Connecting to packages.freecontrib.org" it pretty much freezes
[11:04] <Landon> Site down?
[11:04] <JaccoH> is this a good place to discuss an issue i have with ubuntu .. well im not sure if its ubuntu specific.. but it is ubuntu after all :)
[11:05] <JaccoH> Landon its not pingable?
[11:06] <Landon> Don't know
[11:07] <JaccoH> well could be down then .. other then that your internet connection is ok?
[11:07] <Landon> Hahaha, i'm talking here
[11:07] <old_cymuHep> what is the best ftp server?
[11:07] <very`tired> ok, i'm following the wiki to install nvidia driver, but it isn't working, when i choose nvidia-glx, i get "could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade"
[11:07] <JaccoH> Landon .. yes but not necessarily on that machine :)
[11:08] <very`tired> unresolvable dependancies
[11:08] <cafuego_> old_cymuHep: the one you prefer and are comfortable with
[11:08] <sabayonuser_> any advantage to using ubuntu over debian?
[11:08] <JaccoH> sabayonuser.. support options.. later versions of software
[11:08] <Landon> I found all the files it was going to remove and did
[11:08] <Landon> Should I just sudo apt-get install all of them?
[11:08] <Enselic``> sabayonuser_: you get more with ubuntu
[11:09] <Landon> I can do it in one line, might as well?
[11:09] <JaccoH> yes landon
[11:09] <sabayonuser_> Enselic``: get more of what? i've used both extensively, debian seems more customisable and quicker, ubuntu is more refined
[11:09] <old_cymuHep> cafuego_ dont know i never used before.. thats why i am asking
[11:10] <Enselic``> sabayonuser_: more :p
[11:10] <JaccoH> ok my problem now: I have Ubuntu edgy on a Dell PowerEdge 2900 with BNX2 NICs... the NICs/modules crash when I connect to this server an ssh client and try something simple like 'top'
[11:10] <cafuego_> old_cymuHep: What you plan on using it for?
[11:10] <sabayonuser_> Enselic``: haha, fair enough, might come back for a while then
[11:10] <JaccoH> tried multiple kernel version
[11:10] <_wooz> can anybody give me a good link to download libdri.a.gz (to fix pb with amd64)?
[11:10] <sabayonuser_> i have a dual core AMD64 processor, which ubuntu do i want to run, and what options do i need?
[11:11] <cafuego_> old_cymuHep: internal? external? anonymous? authenticated users? ssl? quota?
[11:11] <old_cymuHep> cafuego_ i need it for upload files on server...
[11:11] <cafuego_> sabayonuser_: desktop or server, and if server, what services?
[11:11] <_wooz> http://mail3.mpr.org/mlomker/libdri.a.gz link is dead :o(
[11:11] <JaccoH> sabayonuser.. the question is wrong.. it usage as server or desktop is the better criteria
[11:11] <sabayonuser_> cafuego_: desktop, but with some apache/mysql
[11:11] <cafuego_> sabayonuser_: Edgy 32bit
[11:11] <Neil3> Landon, yeah a one liner apt-get install will work
[11:11] <JaccoH> edgy eft then .. with the proper kernel after install
[11:11] <old_cymuHep> cafuego_ i need it for upload files on server...
[11:12] <very`tired> anyone? unresolvable dependancies when trying to install nvidia-glx ?
[11:12] <cafuego_> JaccoH: edgy has a -generic kernel, which does SMP and amd64.
[11:12] <cafuego_> old_cymuHep: probably go with vsftpd then. That's fairly simple.
[11:12] <old_cymuHep> !vsftpd
[11:12] <Landon> Neil3: Trying that now
[11:12] <sabayonuser_> cafuego_: yeah, i thought the kernel was generic, do i need to boot with the smp option?
[11:12] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 109 kB, installed size 408 kB
[11:12] <cafuego_> old_cymuHep: Or use scp/sftp instead if the server runs ssh
[11:12] <Neil3> good luck Landon
[11:13] <old_cymuHep> !scp/sftpd
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scp/sftpd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <Landon> Thanks, I think I'm going to need it :)
[11:13] <cafuego_> sabayonuser_: Nah, it detects CPUs at runtime and boots however many it finds
[11:13] <old_cymuHep> !scp
[11:13] <ubotu> SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[11:13] <JaccoH> cafuego .. i use the -server kernel .. tried 2.6.17 and 2.6.20 from feisty
[11:13] <sabayonuser_> cafuego_: great, thanks a lot
[11:13] <cafuego_> JaccoH: Ah, yeah... -server lacks restricted stuff.
[11:13] <cmh0101_> can anyone link me to some good wigets for ubuntu?
[11:14] <JaccoH> cafuego .. yes sorry i was assuming you were addressing my specific problem :)
[11:14] <cafuego_> JaccoH: Ah oh, no :-)
[11:14] <JaccoH> ok
[11:14] <cafuego_> JaccoH: Short of: try with other nics and see if it still crashes
[11:14] <yomm> How can I list the available colors (naming) on Edgy ?
[11:14] <idefix> what bit makes a file a link? sticky bit, suid or sgid?
[11:15] <JaccoH> cafuego .. well the work around is funny.. rmmod bnx2 && /etc/init.d/networking stop && modprobe bnx2 && /etc/init.d/networking start && /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[11:15] <ArchieTek> anyone know of a distro that can run on a 486SX, 32MB RAM, 512MB HDD a light wm ???
[11:15] <JaccoH> after this it wont happen again.. as if the module doesnt load properly orso?
[11:16] <kraut> ArchieTek: xubuntu perhaps
[11:16] <cafuego_> ArchieTek: dsl probably
[11:16] <kraut> ArchieTek: but that's really crappy hardware
[11:16] <idefix> can anyone help me please with this medium big problem? http://garimbo.org/nopaste/1022 any help would be greatly appreciated
[11:17] <kidbuntu> !java runtime environment
[11:17] <ArchieTek> need it for a lab... I know its crapy
[11:17] <kidbuntu> java runtime environment!
[11:17] <kidbuntu> !JRE
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <kraut> ArchieTek: try xubuntu
[11:18] <idefix> I have some dvdrom mapping problems http://garimbo.org/nopaste/1022. can anyone help?
[11:18] <ArchieTek> some ppl said that even xubuntu is too much weight for this ol sucker
[11:18] <idefix> please!
[11:18] <ArchieTek> dsl is a choice...
[11:19] <theholyduck> ArchieTek, you could like use forever to install gentoo
[11:19] <theholyduck> and use fluxbox
[11:19] <theholyduck> or debian and fluxbox
[11:20] <yomm> Archie : do a Edgy altcommand line install & install the lightest wm ... there is stuff that is way lighter then xubuntu
[11:20] <Polysics> argh. why is ruby on ubuntu still 1.8.4?
[11:20] <ArchieTek> how about slack?
[11:20] <theholyduck> well apt-get is win
[11:20] <renaud_> idefix, hdb1 hdb3 and hdb5 are differents partitions of your hard drive
[11:20] <yomm> Archie : I ment Edgy_alt CD command line install :)
[11:20] <theholyduck> yomm, he could try the server cd
[11:21] <theholyduck> thats command line after its installed too
[11:21] <yomm> Archie : like just xorg & twm .. btw do you really need X ?
[11:21] <theholyduck> then apt-get install xorg. and apt-get install fluxbox
[11:21] <yomm> theholyduck : yes , for example
[11:21] <ArchieTek> well no, just some kind of wm...
[11:21] <theholyduck> fluxbox is your best bet
[11:21] <yomm> Archie , but u need graphics ?
[11:21] <yomm> thenu need X :)
[11:22] <theholyduck> well you can play videos in framebuffer consoles
[11:22] <theholyduck> and music too
[11:22] <theholyduck> with mplayer
[11:22] <theholyduck> chating in console is ok
[11:22] <theholyduck> and lynx works too
[11:22] <theholyduck> :P
[11:22] <ArchieTek> yes I can't really work an OS without graphics (ol windoze usr...)
[11:22] <ArchieTek> lynx is cool
[11:22] <idefix> renaud_ what does the b stand for in brw-rw----?
[11:23] <yomm> holyduck : do previous versions of ubuntu e.g 5 run possibly a bit lighter then 6 ?
[11:23] <jussi01> !enter | theholyduck:
[11:23] <ubotu> theholyduck:: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:23] <JaccoH> i wish it were more easy to remove X all together from edgy :)
[11:23] <theholyduck> lol. i always use the enterkey to much :(
[11:23] <renaud_> idefix, I think it means block device, but i'm not sure, man ls :)
[11:23] <theholyduck> yomm, gnome is gnome.
[11:23] <idefix> renaud_ but do you know why my dvdrom won't work?
[11:23] <theholyduck> its still a full WM even if its old.
[11:24] <ArchieTek> how about fvwm is it light enough?
[11:24] <yomm> Jaccoh ;: it's not that hard , and you could always try NOT installing it in the first place
[11:24] <theholyduck> only light wm im used to is FluxBox.
[11:24] <JaccoH> yomm i didnt find that option really :) i may have overlooked it though
[11:24] <renaud_> idefix, what's not working ?
[11:24] <theholyduck> as i know you can run fluxbox on less than 100mhz
[11:25] <theholyduck> though i never tryed that in person
[11:25] <yomm> Jaccoh : you are probably using the live cd , right ?
[11:25] <ArchieTek> well tried blackbox once and seemed kinda ok...
[11:25] <idefix> in the top of the pastebin I typed the command that used to mount my dvdrom
[11:25] <idefix> now it won't work anymore
[11:25] <JaccoH> yomm well i have this DVD from linux magazine
[11:25] <idefix> mount: No medium found
[11:25] <JaccoH> which installs from live cd
[11:25] <JaccoH> yes
[11:25] <yomm> Jaccoh : does it boot directly into gnome ?
[11:25] <JaccoH> yes
[11:26] <yomm> ok live cd then
[11:26] <JaccoH> yes :)
[11:26] <yomm> if you use the alt_cd u can do various install , including a CLI ( command line interface ) system only :)
[11:26] <JaccoH> not that this machine will notice the existence of X .. its too fast for that :)
[11:26] <renaud_> idefix, sorry idefix I dont see what to do
[11:26] <JaccoH> two quad core XEONs .. 8GB ram
[11:27] <ArchieTek> I'm not that brave ;-)
[11:27] <jussi01> jaccoH: nice machine!!!
[11:27] <JaccoH> yes very nice
[11:27] <JaccoH> though the NICs on it suck so far
[11:27] <JaccoH> broadcom netxtreme :(
[11:27] <jussi01> got a spare one? :P
[11:28] <jussi01> heheh
[11:28] <JaccoH> i cant get them working stable
[11:28] <JaccoH> me? no .. :)
[11:28] <JaccoH> they will run vmware server :)
[11:28] <JaccoH> i have more then one of those servers
[11:28] <manuconnexion> hello some one allready tried to install tinyerp soft on ubuntu edgy N?
[11:29] <manuconnexion> or knows where there is a good tutorial about it
[11:29] <JaccoH> ne way.. anyone in here using the BNX2 module for its NIC here?
[11:30] <nanothief> is there a way to minimise a full screen program without quitting it? I tried alt-tab but it didn't work
[11:30] <JaccoH> use a mouse?
[11:30] <JaccoH> look for an icon with a _ in it :)
[11:30] <jussi01> JaccoH: sorry cant help you with th BNX2 module...
[11:31] <goban> in beryl, why cant you move to another viewpoint when a window is maximized?
[11:31] <jussi01> goban: you should be able to
[11:31] <theholyduck> or just
[11:31] <theholyduck> move the mouse in the upper right corner
[11:32] <theholyduck> (sorry for the enter)
[11:32] <theholyduck> on beryl that shuld let you change between all windows
[11:32] <JaccoH> dont sweat it ducky :D
[11:32] <puppy_beast> goban, beryl =0.19999 or so. Still the number is too small to be consider stable, imho
[11:32] <JaccoH> beryl works with hotcorners?
[11:32] <goban> theholyduck: i know and shift alt cntrl lft/right works as well, just wondering why the send wasnt
[11:33] <nanothief> theholyduck: do you know how to get that feature to work with minimized windows as well
[11:33] <theholyduck> i think it works on all types of windows. but i dont use beryl all that much
[11:33] <nanothief> goban: I don't think it is meant to work with a maximized window, it doesn't work for me
[11:33] <theholyduck> and i cant test it now
[11:34] <nanothief> you can still use the shift+ctrl+alt + left or right to do the same thing
[11:34] <jussi01> goban: if you fail here dont forget theres a dedicated beryl room - #beryl
[11:35] <JaccoH> ctrl+shift+alt+left.. wow
[11:35] <JaccoH> :)
[11:36] <mimilus> hello everybody
[11:36] <idefix> how long do ubuntu bans last?
[11:36] <JaccoH> bans?
[11:36] <ikonia_> depends ask an op
[11:36] <jussi01> !hi | mimilus
[11:36] <ubotu> mimilus: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:37] <mimilus> Is there someone wich could help me to configure xorg.conf with my asus x800 pro tvd ?
[11:37] <JaccoH> !hi | JaccoH
[11:37] <JaccoH> cool
[11:37] <mimilus> sorry but i'm french
[11:37] <ikonia_> mimilus what chipset is on that card
[11:37] <ikonia_> !fr >mimilus
[11:37] <Landon> Neil3: Hey, need help again
[11:37] <mimilus> r420
[11:37] <mimilus> it is like ati x800 pro
[11:37] <ikonia_> mimilus is that ati ?
[11:38] <mimilus> yes ati chipset
[11:38] <highneko> Does anyone know of any good typing proctice programs? Something with nice looking text that won't kill my eyes? x_x
[11:38] <elw0od> good morning all
[11:38] <ikonia_> mimilus no can do, sorry - I've stopped helping out on ati issues because its so touch and go
[11:38] <ikonia_> highneko vi ? openoffice ?
[11:38] <idefix> defrysk how long does my #ubuntu-nl ban last? I won't talk about non-ubuntu-related matters anymore...
[11:38] <jussi01> !howdy | elw0od:
[11:38] <ubotu> elw0od:: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:38] <Landon> Neil3: So I was going through the dpkg.log file, and I can't figure out what the files are called from the log file!
[11:38] <ikonia_> idefix ask an op
[11:38] <elw0od> hi oubutu
[11:38] <idefix> he's the one who banned me (defrysk)
[11:38] <ikonia_> ah
[11:38] <Landon> JaccoH: Maybe you could help
[11:39] <elw0od> i want to go feisty but i have fear
[11:39] <Polysics> what does channel mode +tnc mean, pls? OT :-)
[11:39] <ikonia_> idefix try joining #ubuntu-ops and ask
[11:39] <ikonia_> elw0od then don't
[11:39] <jussi01> !ubotu | elw0od:
[11:39] <ubotu> elw0od:: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:39] <ikonia_> elw0od why do you WANT fesity
[11:39] <mimilus> !ubotu
[11:40] <Landon> Anyone: From this line- 2007-02-22 04:42:26 remove ubuntu-base 0.120 0.120 -What's the file called?
[11:40] <ikonia_> Landon what do you mean - file ?
[11:40] <nanothief> does ubotu block repeated commands?
[11:40] <elw0od> i want 2.6.20
[11:40] <elw0od> ubotu, i love you
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i love you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <ikonia_> elw0od why ?
[11:40] <ikonia_> elw0od why do you want 2.6.20
[11:40] <elw0od> i need to try
[11:40] <Quilby> !remote
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <ikonia_> what do you need from it
[11:40] <Landon> ikonia_: I removed a bunch of stuff from my computer on accident, programs, ubunto essentials, a ton
[11:40] <Quilby> !remotedesktop
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remotedesktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <ikonia_> Landon see if you can apt-get ubuntu-base again
[11:41] <jussi01> nanothief: I think so
[11:41] <elw0od> i need to recompile for hibernate patch
[11:41] <Quilby> !search remote
[11:41] <ubotu> Found: aiglx, vnc, freenx
[11:41] <Quilby> !vnc
[11:41] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:41] <ikonia_> elw0od then either use 2.6.20 on edgy/dapper or update to fesity
[11:41] <Quilby> !aiglx
[11:41] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-effects for support.
[11:41] <ismail> screen!
[11:41] <ismail> !screen
[11:41] <Landon> Hahaha
[11:41] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[11:41] <Landon> Oops
[11:41] <dromer> QuilbyZ
[11:41] <ismail> !screen resolution
[11:41] <dromer> try plain x-forwarding ;)
[11:42] <Landon> ikonia_: Yeah, I can, so just forget the numbers then?
[11:42] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5.6.10 (edgy), package size 570 kB, installed size 976 kB
[11:42] <Quilby> ?
[11:42] <ikonia_> Landon yes it will get the latest for you
[11:42] <ismail> !screenresolution
[11:42] <Landon> ikonia_: Thanks
[11:42] <dromer> ismail: just ask your question, it's's easier
[11:43] <ismail> guys my screen resolution is only up to 1024X768
[11:43] <ismail> i want the higher resolution settings
[11:43] <dromer> then go into your xorg.conf and fix it ;)
[11:43] <ismail> i reinstalled ubuntu yesterday before my screen was setto 12XX
[11:44] <Ayabara> I need a "party mode" for my Ubuntu laptop. I want my guests to be able to fiddle with my music player / playlists / music library, but I don't wan't them to have access to anything else. how can I do this?
[11:44] <ismail> i think i need to add the extra resolutions manualy i just dont know how
[11:44] <elw0od> i suppose that is unsfe to take only kernel packs from feisty repository?
[11:44] <darkstar> Hi. I have a problem with synaptic everytime I install packages ii returns an error  zhich is always related to graphviz-cairo packg. Idecided to mark the package for reinstallation but it always fails. Any guess?
[11:45] <dromer> Ayabara: make a new user with restrictions? this can be a pain on some settings I've found out though
[11:45] <dromer> Ayabara: can't really help you fully with that
[11:45] <dromer> ismail: yes, you need to put it in your xorg.conf
[11:45] <ismail> dromer: how do u that exactly
[11:46] <ismail> i need step by step instructions
[11:46] <dromer> ismail: go in a terminal and type: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:46] <Ayabara> dromer, I'll look into it :-)
[11:46] <ismail> ok then
[11:46] <darkstar> Is there a painless way to create a /home partition somewhere and move current /home content there?
[11:46] <dromer> ismail: go down to the last few lines involving resolution (you should recognise)
[11:47] <dromer> I asume you use a depth of 24
[11:47] <ikonia_> darkstar create the partition, put a file system on it, mount it, copy the data across, remount it on /home
[11:48] <dromer> ismail: then you see the modes that are in that section
[11:48] <jax> i am having trouble installing realplayer because system says i need to remove some conflicting programs..how should i go about doing this...thx
[11:48] <dromer> and your desired resolution (type esc then i to insert stuff
[11:48] <ismail> i see it
[11:48] <ikonia_> jax remove the conflicting packages
[11:48] <darkstar> ikonia_, then edit /etc/fstab to point to that partition as my new /home partition?
[11:48] <ismail> shouldnt i be in gedit?
[11:48] <dromer> ismail: I think you need 1280x1024 ?
[11:48] <ikonia_> darkstar yes, but that will only matter on a reboot
[11:48] <dromer> ismail: doesn't matter, this is how I do it
[11:49] <calmofthestorm7> (can someone give me an idea of how long it ought to take to resize a windows partition, just ballpark? I started about 4 hours ago and it's still going, and I'm afriad for my data)
[11:49] <ismail> yeah i need the 1280X1024
[11:49] <darkstar> ikonia_, Wow thought it would have been harder than that... Thanks. I'll do it right away..
[11:49] <dromer> ismail: you can use any texteditor, do sudo gedit <file> if you want that
[11:49] <ismail> its not in there
[11:49] <ikonia_> calmofthestorm7 depends on how fast your machine is, how big the disk is, how much free space you have, have much data is on and fragmented, - no way to gtell
[11:49] <ikonia_> tell
[11:49] <elw0od> ok
[11:49] <dromer> ismail: than add it
[11:49] <ikonia_> darkstar dead easy
[11:49] <ismail> so i need to add it right
[11:49] <ismail> how
[11:49] <elw0od> i can just change edgy with feisty in sources.list?
[11:49] <dromer> save it (in vim: esc, :wq)
[11:49] <darkstar> ikonia_, ;) brb
[11:50] <ikonia_> elw0od nope
[11:50] <dave84> Hi all, Can anyone help with a wireless problem? I have a Netcomm NP542 card which Edgy found and installed but I get an error with iwconfig of Access Point: Not-Associated? Not sure what to do. Have read everything but I think it must just be a setup problem.
[11:50] <ikonia_> elw0od follow the upgrade process
[11:50] <calmofthestorm7> well, the disk is 70/80 gigs full, before booting ubuntu I wrote the empty space with a bunch of files full of 0's, deleted them, then defragged
[11:50] <dromer> ismail: maybe do gedit indeed, it might be easier for you
[11:50] <calmofthestorm7> 2ghz amd64 with 512 mb ram
[11:50] <elw0od> ikonia,  it's on the wiki?
[11:50] <kidbuntu> how do i change the JAVA runtime that i'm using?
[11:50] <yomm> calmofthestorm : always a good idea backup data before resizing
[11:50] <puppy_beast> darkstar, what is the error msg?
[11:50] <jax> yes ..but i m not sure which one? The following packages are BROKEN:
[11:50] <jax>   realplayer
[11:50] <jax> 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:50] <jax> Need to get 22.5kB of archives. After unpacking 213kB will be used.
[11:50] <jax> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:50] <jax>   realplayer: Depends: xlibs which is a virtual package.
[11:50] <ikonia_> calmofthestorm7 I'll say it again, no way to tell
[11:50] <jax> Resolving dependencies...
[11:50] <calmofthestorm7> aright, thanks
[11:50] <ikonia_> elw0odu yup
[11:50] <jax> Unable to resolve dependencies!  Giving up...
[11:50] <dromer> !paste | jax
[11:50] <ubotu> jax: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <ismail> ok and just ass the resolution to all the feilds with resolution settings?
[11:50] <mwe> I've been asking this earlier. Does anyone know how to rename the Applications menu?
[11:50] <dromer> ismail: no just the depth 24, that's the one you probably use
[11:51] <kidbuntu> Frostwire
[11:51] <darkstar> puppy_beast, hold on, let me simulate a package installation so I can write down the error message..
[11:51] <ikonia_> mwe I thought you could just right click on it and rename it
[11:51] <kidbuntu> !Frostwire
[11:51] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:51] <mwe> ikonia_: try it. you can't
[11:51] <ikonia_> mwe sorry, not got an ubuntu box to hand
[11:51] <mwe> ikonia_: well you can't do that
[11:51] <ikonia_> mwe I don't doubt you
[11:52] <dromer> ismail: done it? (vim or gedit?)
[11:52] <ismail> dromer: done it in gedit
[11:53] <mwe> ikonia_: You have to mess with some .menu/.desktop/.directory files in /usr/share and/or /etc I think but I haven't figured how yet
[11:53] <ismail> now i need to restart ubuntu right?
[11:53] <dromer> ismail: ok, saved it?
[11:53] <ismail> yup
[11:53] <dromer> ismail: no, not ubuntu, you need to restart x
[11:53] <steveire> Hey. My windows installation is broken, and it appears I need to edit the registry. Is there some way I can do that from within ubuntu? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/317189 I can mount the partition fine.
[11:53] <ismail> ummmm ctrl alt backspace?
[11:53] <dromer> ismail: do that with: ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:53] <Landon> libeel2-data (= 2.14.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:53] <dromer> ok, gl\
[11:53] <kidbuntu> guys please help me. i can't type anything to this link http://www.meralco.com.ph/#
[11:53] <Landon> Anyone know what that means?
[11:53] <UbuntuGaming183> hallo
[11:53] <kidbuntu> i'm currently using 5.10
[11:53] <jhaig> I have ubuntu installed on a laptop that I regularly connect to two different networks.  On one I need to connect to a web proxy but not on the other, and currently I need to do this when I start a web browser or anything else using http (eg, software updates).  Is it possible to get this done automatically depending on the ip address received from DHCP?
[11:54] <ismail> k
[11:54] <ismail> brb
[11:54] <UbuntuGaming183> kann mir einer von euch sagen wie man das sudo zeitfenster kleiner machen kann ?
[11:54] <UbuntuGaming183> sry
[11:54] <mwe> I don't think ctrl-alt-backspace reloads xorg.conf, does it. I usually have to sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart for that
[11:54] <darkstar> puppy_beast, graphiviz-cairo post-installation subbprocess script has returned an error 127
[11:54] <dromer> mwe: I thought it does ... it has worked for me ..
[11:54] <UbuntuGaming183> does anyone know how to change the timewindow of the sudo comment ?
[11:55] <renaud_> mwe, it does for me, and I have a default gdm config
[11:55] <ismail> weeeee thanks a mil man
[11:55] <ismail> :D
[11:55] <mwe> I see
[11:55] <jax> what is the best way to find solve resolve dependencies if a package is BROKEN..like realplayer...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7016/
[11:55] <dromer> ismail: it worked? :)
[11:55] <ismail> yeah woked
[11:55] <ismail> thank u alot
[11:55] <dromer> ok, and you learned something too ;)
[11:55] <dromer> no prob
[11:55] <dromer> later
[11:55] <UbuntuGaming183> hello
[11:55] <ismail> dromer where can i read more about doing stuff like that
[11:56] <neo_> can someone help me??
[11:56] <elw0od> neo_, ask :)
[11:56] <ismail> online resources are very scattered
[11:56] <elw0od> where i can find about updating to feisty? apt-get distupgrade isn't enough?
[11:56] <UbuntuGaming183> is there a sudo.conf file where i can change the timeliimit of the sudo comment ?
[11:56] <neo_> elw0od : i want to paste index.hmtl to my apache-www folder but Acces denied
[11:57] <elw0od> neo_,  check permission of the files
[11:57] <neo_> root
[11:57] <neo_> is it
[11:57] <UbuntuGaming183> elwood you must change the sources.list to feisty sources
[11:57] <elw0od> neo_, so no one can read escept root
[11:57] <neo_> but
[11:57] <haboy_> !frostwire
[11:57] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[11:57] <neo_> how can i change my website
[11:57] <neo_> ?
[11:58] <neo_> mom
[11:58] <neo_> moment
[11:58] <elw0od> neo_, go to the  dir where your index.html is and change permission with chmod
[11:58] <neo_> so
[11:58] <neo_> my webspace is online now
[11:58] <neo_> only the stuff
[11:58] <neo_> i cant edit it
[11:59] <yomm> !enter !neo
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter !neo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <yomm> !return !neo
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about return !neo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <neo_> oki
[11:59] <ismail> any aswer to that?
[12:00] <cavallo_> hi
[12:00] <yharrow> chello my feeelow russians
[12:01] <yharrow> vere is can I find a way too keel ze vista beast?
[12:01] <yharrow> remember.. veesta iz spyware
[12:01] <yharrow> oh wth.
[12:01] <renaud_> just dont install it ?
[12:01] <yharrow> where is everyone?
[12:02] <elw0od> neo_, you can :)
[12:02] <neo_> how?
[12:02] <elw0od> ok go in a terminal
[12:02] <neo_> i searched the web
[12:02] <neo_> oki
[12:02] <neo_> moment
[12:02] <neo_> yes
[12:02] <yharrow> yay, ppl. (is not a hermit)
[12:02] <yomm> yharrow : everyone is busy ignoring nonsense ...
[12:02] <darkstar> ikonia_, I've created and formatted /dev/sdb2 with ext3. should I now copy all my /home content there (without creating a home folder?
[12:03] <yharrow> ok yomm.
[12:03] <yharrow> Im done
[12:03] <neo_> elw0od:  oki
[12:03] <neo_> terminal is open
[12:03] <dave84> anyone help with a wireless card problem?
[12:03] <elw0od> neo_, are u using kubuntu o ubuntu?
[12:03] <yharrow> dave, what kind of card?
[12:03] <neo_> ubunutu
[12:03] <darkstar> dave84, which card
[12:03] <dave84> NetcommNP542
[12:04] <kenthomson> HELP; Am i infringing any patents or doing anything illegal when i use a open-source application to view proprietary formats like .doc (word), .fla (flash source), .3ds (3DS MAX), .psd (photoshop), .cdr (coreldraw). As these programs are needed by me, i need to know whether it is illegal to open such files using OS apps and also please suggest me a app to open each of the file i mentioned here. Thank you
[12:04] <yharrow> dave. when you go into network manager does your card show up?
[12:04] <elw0od> neo_,  sudo nautilus --no-desktop
[12:04] <neo_> elw0od:
[12:04] <neo_> that command compleet?
[12:04] <dave84> Yes and iwconfig has it talking but i get a  Access Point: Not-Associated  message
[12:04] <elw0od> neo_,  yes
[12:05] <neo_> oki
[12:05] <neo_> he opening root
[12:05] <neo_> yes
[12:05] <neo_> what now?
[12:05] <kenthomson> Does someone care to enlighten me?
[12:05] <yharrow> dave, are you using 32 or 64 bit?
[12:05] <dave84> 32
[12:05] <elw0od> go to your website directory
[12:06] <darkstar> ikonia, sorry for bogging you. can you just tell me wether or not i must creat a home folder on newly formatted partition?
[12:06] <neo_> elw0od: thats not there
[12:06] <neo_> /var/www
[12:06] <neo_> i dont know where it is
[12:06] <elw0od> so go to var/www
[12:06] <neo_> oki
[12:06] <neo_> oki
[12:06] <neo_> what now?
[12:07] <yharrow> dave, one second
[12:07] <yharrow> brb
[12:08] <yharrow> dave, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[12:08] <dave84> kenthomson, most of these are usable from Linux but you have to use a few different programs. I'm not sure about Corel
[12:08] <neo_> yes
[12:08] <elw0od> neo_, open property by right cliccking and set permission
[12:08] <neo_> elw0od: thanks!!
[12:08] <dave84> 6.10 edgy
[12:08] <elw0od> neo_, there is another way with chmod...try reading man
[12:09] <neo_> thanks!!
[12:09] <elw0od> neo_, this is the simplest
[12:09] <elw0od> neo_,  it works?
[12:09] <neo_> yes
[12:09] <neo_> thanks!!
[12:09] <Landon> Does anyone know how to install nautilus?
[12:09] <Landon> I've come to a road block because it says The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:09] <Landon>   libeel2-2: Depends: libeel2-data (= 2.14.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:10] <monzie> Landon: just give sudo apt-get install
[12:10] <Landon> I dont' know how to get 2.14.3-0ubuntu1
[12:10] <monzie> it should correct dependency problems, if any
[12:10] <neo_> elw0od:  http://chatpalace.ath.cx its not yet finished and its dutch language :)
[12:10] <yharrow> dave you might be able to connect using network manager
[12:10] <Landon> I need that specific version though
[12:10] <kenthomson> I helped to get some more help, anyways...its hopeless
[12:10] <yharrow> dave,  try.  sudo apt-get install network-manager
[12:11] <dave84> Will try
[12:11] <Landon> monzie: If I sudo-apt get install libeel2-data, it says it's at it's newest version
[12:11] <darkstar> Hi I have decided to move /home to a different partition, so I freated a 50g partition on /dev/sdbx and formatted as ext 3 I am copying my three useres home directories there. Then ?
[12:11] <darkstar> poor spelling, ain't it?
[12:12] <Landon> but it says it's 2.14.1-0ubuntu2, and I need 2.14.3-ubuntu1
[12:12] <dave84> kenthomson, dont give up this is worth the effort
[12:12] <yharrow> dave, you need to have universe repositories enabled in order to install network-manager
[12:12] <monzie> Landon: have you fiddled with your sources.list?
[12:12] <dave84> Already newest version
[12:12] <kenthomson> dave84, I meant to say asking for help on the IRC here, is hopeless NOT linux. Dont worry i have been infected by the linux parasite deep enough that i am only going back to Redmond after i have a complete replacement of my Brain. ;)
[12:12] <monzie> why dont you paste a log of what you're doing to some paste bin
[12:13] <Landon> monzie: No, what would that do?
[12:14] <yharrow> dave: also try apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:14] <dave84> kenthomson, The forum here is sometimes a bit slow but there is a lot of very helpful people who can take a while to respond		
[12:14] <yharrow> meant sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:15] <dave84> Already newest version
[12:16] <neo_> elw0od ?
[12:16] <elw0od> neo_,  yes
[12:16] <neo_> is there a way to install mysql without donwloading it?
[12:16] <neo_> yes shell command
[12:16] <neo_> just *
[12:16] <elw0od> apt-get install mysql
[12:16] <neo_> ty
[12:16] <neo_> sudo apt-get install mysql ?
[12:17] <Orfeous> i cant change volume for my soundcard on any installed mixer... what can be wrong?
[12:17] <neo_> ty
[12:17] <dave84> I then installed wifi radar, then WPA
[12:17] <Orfeous> i can change volume with xmms but no mixer
[12:17] <Landon> Guys, I really need help installing nautilus, it's the last thing I need to do to correct my GIGANTIC mistake
[12:17] <nanothief> Landon: why isn't nautilus installed?
[12:17] <Landon> It was an accident, and it was removed, a long with about 50 other things
[12:18] <yharrow> dave, have you actually tried connecting with both wifi-radar and NetworkManager?
[12:18] <Landon> I just finished installing EVERYTHING else by hand, just need nautilus now
[12:18] <nanothief> Landon: it might have been quicker just to re-install ubuntu
[12:18] <neo_> thanks elw0od i am donwloading it right now :) ty
[12:19] <Landon> nanothief: I have too much stuff on here, and I have everything pretty much the way I want. It wasn't that bad since I had a list of everything that was gone
[12:19] <Landon> But now I just need Nautilus and I'm done
[12:19] <nanothief> Landon: i'm guessing sudo apt-get install nautilus doesn't work?
[12:20] <Landon> nanothief: No, There's a dependency problem
[12:20] <neo_> synaptic ? maybe
[12:20] <Landon> libeel2-data (= 2.14.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:20] <Landon> Haven't tried synaptic yet, I'll try that right now
[12:20] <dave84> yharrow, yes the card is found but the Access Point: Not-Associated part has got me baffled. It says Link Quality:60/100  Signal level:44/100  Noise level:0/100 with iwconfig. must just be a setting but DHCP is on and it should be automatic?
[12:20] <nanothief> landon: out of curiosity, what was the gigantic mistake?
[12:21] <gavintu> Hello. I've been looking for information on the forums but I can't find anything specific. How might I install qt so that I can run a program that requires it? All the information I can find on google is for developers using qt :  /.
[12:21] <Landon> Heh, it was retarded. sudo apt-get install python- statgrab instead of sudo apt-get install python-statgrab
[12:21] <yharrow> dave, does your connection use wep or wpa?
[12:21] <Landon> And without thinking I hit yes
[12:22] <dave84> I have both switched off at this stage
[12:22] <Landon> Synaptic doesn't work, same problem
[12:22] <Landon> That ONE file
[12:22] <neo_> which file?
[12:22] <neo_> lol
[12:22] <Landon> libeel2-data (= 2.14.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.14.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:23] <neo_> that file :D
[12:23] <neo_> you cannot donwload it from internet??
[12:23] <Landon> I need the ubuntu1 but if I sudo apt-get libeel2-data, it says it's there
[12:23] <Landon> neo_: Where would I put it?
[12:23] <neo_> i dont know
[12:23] <neo_> else reinstall ubuntu?
[12:23] <nanothief> gavintu: try installing libqt4-core and libqt4-gui
[12:23] <Landon> I'm not going to reinstall just for 1 file
[12:24] <Landon> Someone's got to know
[12:24] <yharrow> dave, according to hardware support in ubuntu wiki it should work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsNetcomm
[12:24] <nanothief> Landon: but a lot more could be broken that you haven't discovered yet
[12:24] <Landon> nanothief: I reinstalled everything that was taken off, everything went really well...everything except for nautilus
[12:24] <yharrow> dave, I think it might have to do with your particular setup
[12:25] <Landon> Luckily I stopped it before it did any big damage
[12:25] <yharrow> dave, can you post the output of ifconfig
[12:25] <MrPrimate> Does nayone know how I can burn a CD on the same drive that I'm running a LiveCD on ?
[12:25] <yharrow> dave, also are you using a router?
[12:25] <ikonia_> Landon nautalus is part of gnone-desktop
[12:25] <dave84> can I just paste it here?
[12:25] <yharrow> yeah
[12:25] <neo_> is there not an way to install nautalus with the cd?
[12:25] <nanothief> MrPrimate: probably impossible
[12:26] <neo_> how to start mysql?
[12:26] <ikonia_> neo_ use the init script
[12:26] <neo_> which?
[12:26] <ikonia_> neo_ it also starts by default after install
[12:26] <neo_> :D
[12:26] <jussi01> dave84: if its large use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:26] <neo_> lol
[12:26] <nanothief> MrPrimate: why do you need to?
[12:26] <ikonia_> neo_ the one called "mysql"
[12:26] <Landon> ikonia_: You're right, and I can't re-install gnome-desktop until I re-install nautilus :P
[12:26] <ikonia_> neo_ which do you think
[12:26] <yharrow> thanks jussi
[12:26] <neo_> but dont  want to restart
[12:26] <ikonia_> ikonia_ is that the error message
[12:26] <neo_> ikonia: where /path?
[12:26] <EyeCue> Hmm, how does ubuntu set its hostname? is it via /etc/hostname, or purely the binary hostname ?
[12:27] <ikonia_> neo_ where the init scripts are kept
[12:27] <ikonia_> neo_ read the wiki
[12:27] <neo_> oki
[12:27] <ikonia_> EyeCue the binary only changes it at that moment in time
[12:27] <neo_> wiki.ubuntu.*
[12:27] <ikonia_> the hostname file is read at boot
[12:27] <EyeCue> roger that.
[12:27] <dave84> Pasted it there havent used thatbefore!
[12:28] <yharrow> jussi, how do i read it?
[12:28] <Landon> What's funny is that I can open folders in something that LOOKS like nautilus
[12:28] <EyeCue> ikonia_, is the syntax the same as other os's, ie; hostname hostname.domain, or are switches required to set it
[12:28] <neo_> restart
[12:28] <gavintu> nanothief: Very odd. It seems that aptitude downloads those files when you select the qt4-designer module (as I did before), but doesn't actually install them, so they were just sitting there doing nothing. That might explain my problem.
[12:28] <neo_> it must be done
[12:28] <jussi01> yharrow: he should post the address fore you here
[12:28] <yharrow> jussi, figured
[12:28] <ikonia_> neo_ I've told you how to do it
[12:29] <ikonia_> EyeCue I assume so
[12:29] <yharrow> dave, did you see whta the address is?
[12:29] <ikonia_> EyeCue but just man it to make sure
[12:29] <dave84> Yes it is a iConnect 624W router but not connected to the outside world. I am currently running of my home router.
[12:29] <EyeCue> I'm supporting a client ive just started working with
[12:29] <jussi01> dave84: make sure you pust the paste button on that address
[12:29] <EyeCue> and i dont have access to the box, i just needed a confir,
[12:29] <EyeCue> confirm
[12:29] <ikonia_> EyeCue I believe its the same
[12:29] <EyeCue> ta
[12:30] <EyeCue> i dont think its the drama, but it doesnt hurt to kill fqdn errors.
[12:30] <ikonia_> EyeCue agreed
[12:30] <yharrow> dave84, do you have a wired card as well that you can test the connection on?
[12:30] <nanothief> gavintu: what happens when you run sudo apt-get install libqt4-gui
[12:31] <gavintu> nanothief: I just finished that now, but it didn't fix my problem. It still says QTDIR is null.
[12:31] <gavintu> nanothief: I'm trying to compile a program from source that requires QT because it was crashing on startup, probably because QT isn't set up properly.
[12:31] <dave84> Cant use the link it think s I am spamming it
[12:32] <yharrow> dave84 just email the output to me. yharrow@yahoo.com
[12:32] <dave84> yes the connection with a cable works fine and dhcps
[12:33] <Landon> Figured it out! Just had to remove the dependency completely then re-install it, works fine now. Thanks to those that helped ;)
[12:33] <slippyr4> hello, how can i change a users primary group? ie, when i create a file, it's owned and grouped as jon/jon . i want it to be jon/users
[12:33] <ricardo_> hi can anyone help me to install firefox 2.0?
[12:34] <gavintu> nanothief: I guess a better question now would be: Do you have to do a full manual configuration if you just want to use the libraries?
[12:34] <ikonia_> ricardo_ get apt-get it from the repo
[12:34] <nanothief> gavintu: If you are trying to compile it you need a few more packages. Try searching for Qt (name only) from synaptic package manager, and checking all the relevant packages that start with lib (it can't hurt to download ones not needed)
[12:34] <yharrow> dave, also send me the output of  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:35] <gavintu> nanothief: Well yeah I don't really want to compile, I was only going to do that because the binaries weren't working in the first place and I figured I could find out the problem if I tried to compile.
[12:35] <xenoborg> gavintu: what program are you trying to compile?
[12:35] <nanothief> gavintu: what program is it?
[12:35] <gavintu> mixxx
[12:35] <yharrow> www.sample.com
[12:35] <yharrow> http://www.sample.com
[12:36] <gavintu> I mentioned on their boards that it was crashing, and they think it might be my QT that's flubbed up.
[12:36] <xenoborg> sudo apt-get build-dep mixxx
[12:36] <Orfeous> i give up.. i cant change volume with any mixer in ubnuntu!! just in software mode in xmms
[12:36] <ricardo_> ikonia_ i never really understood the apt... how do i seek the package?
[12:36] <gavintu> I already have the mixxx dev viles
[12:37] <nanothief> gavintu: have you got any other programs that need Qt?
[12:37] <ikonia_> ricardo_ if you don't understand apt - use the synaptic gui manager
[12:37] <gavintu> no, never needed it
[12:37] <ikonia_> or read the docs
[12:37] <xenoborg> then apt-get source mixxx; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
[12:37] <ricardo_> ikonia_ i tried, but i cant find the firefox 2 there, only the 1.5...
[12:38] <daveyates> apt-cache search ricardo_ will find all pakages installed or not that cotain ricardo_ as part of the name or discription
[12:38] <gavintu> xenoborg: I'm trying to compile it in debug mode so I can send them diagnostics. It's giving errors because of QT, but other than that there's no problem with the compile.
[12:38] <ikonia_> ricardo_ what version of ubuntu are you using
[12:38] <ricardo_> the drapper...
[12:38] <ikonia_> ricardo_ 1.5 is all thats available.
[12:39] <IdleOne> !ff2
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ff2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <nanothief> gavintu: for something different, try sudo apt-get install nethack-qt. This will install a small game that relies on Qt. if it doesn't work you know Qt is the problem
[12:39] <yomm> !ppc
[12:39] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[12:39] <slippyr4> !umask
[12:39] <Dustyhawk> hello people again. i have a problem with synaptics ..again
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <yomm> is there a "ubuntu-ppc" irc channel ?
[12:40] <ricardo_> ikonia_ should i get a newer version of ubuntu, then?
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> in which this is what i got after clicking the Reload button
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> E: Malformed line 33 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> Go to the repository dialogue to correct the problem.
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> E: Malformed line 33 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[12:40] <Dustyhawk> though i have not touch any of the repository
[12:40] <dave84> yharrow, did the arrive OK
[12:40] <ricardo_> ikonia_ considering there is a newer version, of course...
[12:40] <IdleOne> !firefox | ricardo_
[12:40] <ubotu> ricardo_: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:40] <slippyr4> I am confused by umasks. what umask do i need to create files with rwxrwxr_x ?
[12:40] <nanothief> !pastebin | Dustyhawk
[12:40] <ubotu> Dustyhawk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:41] <reysan> Hello
[12:41] <Quilby> im having problems with the freenx server
[12:41] <Quilby> where should i go?
[12:41] <reysan> Any one use Xubuntu  ?
[12:41] <Quilby> wtf is going on?
[12:42] <gavintu> reysan: Sometimes, why?
[12:42] <deroby> Hi all
[12:42] <Dustyhawk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7023/   <-- happens when i reload synaptics
[12:42] <johnnybuoy> hi
[12:42] <johnnybuoy> hi all!
[12:42] <Dustyhawk> any idea
[12:42] <xenoborg> gavintu: edit line 27 of debian/rules in your source dir and insert --enable-debug, then you should be fine
[12:42] <Tmob> MrPrim8, the src i'm compiling isn't ubuntu
[12:42] <yomm> is it correct that xorg has no build-in window manager ?
[12:42] <MrPrim8> hey a friend of mine is working on recompiling his kernel -- can he get the configuration for the kernel that is distrbuted ? ?
[12:42] <deroby> I was wondering : is there an edonkey2K server for linux (ubuntu ?) I searched synaptics, but didn't find one
[12:42] <MrPrim8> Tmob, what's your ultimate goal or purpoase of all this ?
[12:42] <Quilby> yes
[12:43] <Quilby> amule
[12:43] <Quilby> !amule
[12:43] <ubotu> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[12:43] <yharrow> dave, yeah just got mail. reading now
[12:43] <deroby> ah, so amule is Client AND server then ?
[12:43] <Tmob> MrPrim8, i dont want initrd..
[12:43] <Quilby> yes just like emule
[12:43] <IdleOne> !ops we have a small onjoin/part botnet in here joining and parting
[12:43] <johnnybuoy> can anyone tell me how I get to the page that shows hardware configuration and what works/doesn't work on the ubuntu webpage? I know there should be something like this, as last time I installed it, I did a survey for hardware support
[12:43] <Tmob> but its just personal choice.. not really useful for anything..
[12:43] <MrPrim8> Tmob, why don't you take the kernel source that Ubuntu distributes and modify it to your needs, this way you know what's going on,
[12:43] <reysan> I'm newbeee.. i don't show the image, when i open a .png or .jpg ..start Gimp..
[12:43] <marcellus> I am looking for an mp3 player that has a scrobbler plugin. xmms (which I have been using up til now) crashes on some files, amarok refuse to start, muine|rhythmbox|quodlibet don't work. So I tried listen which requires gstreamer >= 0.10.1  and now audacious scrobbler plugin causes a conflict between libwavpack and gstreamer0.8-misc. Any recommendations on a player that just works (like is in edgy)?
[12:44] <MrPrim8> Tmob, I may be wrong, but can't you just skip initrd without even recompiling the kernel ?
[12:44] <Quilby> wtf is going on
[12:44] <Quilby> band that ip
[12:44] <Quilby> ban
[12:44] <gavintu> nanothief: Thanks, OK I installed it, and it gave me almost exactly the same error that mixxx did when I tried to run it, so it appears they have the same problem. The game actually ran, but it was all messed up so I guess mixxx just relies more on qt than the game does.
[12:44] <IdleOne> Quilby, no need for the wtf! it's a flood botnet
[12:45] <Quilby> so what is it?
[12:45] <johnnybuoy> no OPs?
[12:45] <Dustyhawk> ok screw that error which i got
[12:45] <slippyr4> I am confused by umasks. what umask do i need to create files with rwxrwxr_x ?
[12:45] <IdleOne> !ops
[12:45] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[12:45] <MrPrim8> why the hell do people entertain themselves by being irritating on IRC?  ... i think it must be to make up for feeling sad for having a small penis
[12:45] <gavintu> nanothief: So how the question is why isn't it working? I'm on dapper ubuntu core btw.
[12:45] <deroby> errr, IMHO eMule (the windows client I use) only has client capability, we need to run dserver.exe on our lan (not connected to the internet) to have a central "index-locatio", but anyway, I'll give aMule a look, thanks
[12:45] <apokryphos> IdleOne: hi
[12:45] <Dustyhawk> now with add/remove
[12:45] <Dustyhawk> im getting this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7024/
[12:45] <nanothief> gavintu: ok have you tried removing all qt libs from your computer?
[12:45] <IdleOne> apokryphos, join/ part botnet
[12:45] <MrPrim8> maybe if you hvae a tiny penis it helps you feel better if you flood chnanels
[12:45] <johnnybuoy> can anyone point me to the supported hardware page?
[12:45] <IdleOne> apokryphos, been going on for about 5 minutes
[12:46] <Quilby> where are the ops?
[12:46] <MrPrim8> Tmob, good luck, I have to reboot to linux and get to work, cya
[12:46] <Quilby> all of them are sleeping
[12:46] <gavintu> nanothief: Hmmm, no. I guess I'll try that now.
[12:46] <apokryphos> Quilby: no, I'm here.
[12:46] <reysan> to open the image in Xfce4 what Sw I can to use ?
[12:46] <Quilby> oh
[12:46] <IdleOne> ty apokryphos
[12:46] <Dustyhawk> hello people. ~_~ need some help
[12:46] <gavintu> nanothief: Should I just get rid of everything and then reinstall the core file?
[12:47] <Quilby> !lts
[12:47] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:47] <nanothief> nanothief: firstly uninstall nethack-qt, then get rid of all qt stuff, then re-install nethack-qt. That might work
[12:47] <johnnybuoy> can anyone tell me how I get to the page that shows hardware configuration and what works/doesn't work on the ubuntu webpage? I know there should be something like this, as last time I installed it, I did a survey for hardware support
[12:47] <johnnybuoy> it asked me questions like does sound work, video, etc...
[12:48] <mattl> jono: how do you feel about having ESR join your community? given that he has explicitly stated that he is against the free software community and believes we all need non-free software.
[12:48] <johnnybuoy> who is ESR?
[12:49] <mattl> Eric S Raymond.
[12:49] <Quilby> !esr
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <jono> mattl: I couldnt care less, he is one user
[12:49] <dave84> johnnybouy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation
[12:49] <jono> mattl: I don;t see him as any different to any other user
[12:49] <johnnybuoy> thx
[12:49] <jono> mattl: and we have lots of people who believe Ubuntu should support non-free software
[12:49] <sskroeder> Hi all ... I'm using Gaim for my IM'ing needs -- but earlier today one of my friends (who still use windows) wanted to let me see via his webcam - though MSN Messenger  --- Is there a way to accomplish that ? - to see the webcam stream from a Messenger chat ?
[12:49] <Crescendo> We do need non-free software.
[12:49] <johnnybuoy> isn't esr one of the oss and foss spokespeople?
[12:49] <mattl> Crescendo: we don't.
[12:49] <mattl> johnnybuoy: open source, but not free software
[12:49] <johnnybuoy> ah
[12:50] <marcellus> johnnybuoy: self-proclaimed
[12:50] <johnnybuoy> :D
[12:50] <johnnybuoy> yeah, I know
[12:50] <mattl> marcellus: well, he was on the OSI board for sometime.
[12:50] <yharrow> dave what is your access point name?
[12:50] <johnnybuoy> he does have some pretty interesting papers on his site, though...
[12:50] <Enselic``> Is there a way to pipe stdinput to a gedit buffer?
[12:50] <yharrow> network name?
[12:50] <Crescendo> mattl, it's too early to argue why we do, so <insert well-defended argument for non-free software, with all the necessities being free anyways>
[12:51] <dave84> WLAN-AP-625W
[12:51] <mattl> jono: anyway, that was all i wanted to know. cheers.
[12:51] <jono> :)
[12:51] <Crescendo> Don't hate!
[12:51] <Crescendo> :x
[12:51] <mattl> Crescendo: i have no intention to argue with you.
[12:52] <gavintu> Or so he says.
[12:52] <yharrow> ok, send me the output of   cat /etc/network/interfaces
[12:52] <yharrow> <<dave84
[12:52] <Crescendo> Lol, actually, I was the one who was intending on arguing with him.
[12:52] <Crescendo> Purists and elitists are not what the community needs, though.
[12:52] <Crescendo> That's what it boils down to.
[12:52] <dave84> Wifi radar sees the router and also my netgear home router
[12:52] <Enselic``> who was that mattl guy?
[12:52] <Crescendo> Eric will be a welcome addition to the community, as will any other user.
[12:53] <johnnybuoy> yeah, but we do need some people who have a voice in THE media
[12:53] <yharrow> dave, did you try connecting using wifi-radar?
[12:53] <nanothief> gavintu: how is it going?
[12:53] <johnnybuoy> ppl tend to think free software is bad, just because it's free
[12:53] <yharrow> dave:  sudo /etc/init.d/wifi-radar restart; sudo wifi-radar
[12:53] <dave84> Yes but it tries to assign an IP but after 15 seconds cant do it
[12:54] <johnnybuoy> how dumb, seeing it's better than an proprietary software
[12:54] <gavintu> nanothief: Looking for stray qts in the nooks and crannies.
[12:54] <johnnybuoy> s/an/any
[12:54] <yharrow> dave84  did you send the output yet?
[12:55] <darkstar> Guys can you help me moving my system's /home to a newly created partition somewhere else into the filesystem? Just need a quick way to do it.
[12:55] <rogiertje> i installed kubuntu (from ubuntu) i also installed the kubuntu usplash, how do i change it back to the ubuntu splash?
[12:56] <yharrow> dave, it seems as if the only problem were having is getting the wireless card to obtain an ip address from the router.
[12:56] <johnnybuoy> darkstar, well, just copy/move it there recursively and set the fstab file accordingly
[12:56] <darek> cze
[12:57] <darkstar> johnnybuoy, what sould the /etc/fstab lool like after? I mean which flags are *mandatory* for /home, in fstab?
[12:58] <johnnybuoy> dell is giving me sh*t for an order. anyone had problems with dell online orders?
[12:58] <johnnybuoy> hmm
[12:58] <johnnybuoy> darkstar, if your permissions are right, I would guess defaults should be ok
[12:58] <dave84> I cant understand it the router is brand new and was configured by the internet provider with dhcp configured and wireless configured
[12:59] <johnnybuoy> except if this is a prduction/high securith host, where I would do some fine-tuning..
[12:59] <sladen> rogiertje: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[12:59] <darkstar> johhnybouy, alright, let's say I am done and I am unable to boot into my system........ how would I recover?
[12:59] <johnnybuoy> darkmatter, well, pop in a live-cd of course.
[01:00] <DaHood> hi all. I was trying out ubuntu-server. I cannot explain why it insists on installing the apache2-mpm-prefork package instead of the apache2-mpm-worker. for example, if i try to install php5 then it requires the "prefork" version of apache
[01:00] <johnnybuoy> anyhow, you'll still be able to log in as root, as root's home is on /root, so unmodified
[01:00] <dave84> emailed the last one
[01:00] <johnnybuoy> darkstar, ^^
[01:01] <darkstar> johnnybuoy, right... Ok. brb
[01:01] <yharrow> ok
[01:01] <johnnybuoy> darkmatter, you have a root password?
[01:01] <johnnybuoy> darkstar,
[01:01] <asti> darkstar, take a look at this guide: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[01:01] <johnnybuoy> by default ubuntu doesn't have a root password, only sudo is allowed
[01:01] <johnnybuoy> iirc
[01:01] <nadii> Ello
[01:01] <darkstar> asti, thanks I am going right there.
[01:02] <johnnybuoy> kewl
[01:02] <johnnybuoy> see y'all when I get my freeking dell inspiron.
[01:02] <johnnybuoy> ciao
[01:03] <dave84> sudo wifi radar says wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:04] <yharrow> dave84, :) there is a typo in your interfaces file
[01:04] <yharrow> do sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:05] <yharrow> change the last line to #wireless-keys:
[01:05] <yharrow> instead of wireless-key s:
[01:06] <dave84> How would that happen?
[01:06] <yharrow> then do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:06] <yharrow> dave84, no idea man haha
[01:06] <yharrow> dave84, just glad we spotted it
[01:07] <dave84> Thanks for your help  let you know how it goes
[01:08] <masato> siema
[01:08] <yharrow> dave, take a look at this error. Failed to bring up ath0. Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :    invalid argument "s:".
[01:08] <yharrow> dave, the invalid argument is your extra s at the end of wireless-keys
[01:09] <smo> hi all
[01:09] <yharrow> I mean hanging s
[01:09] <smo> what up with ubuntu on usb key is it possible now??
[01:09] <smo> i have a 2 go usb key can i install ubuntu on it to run it as live -cd...
[01:09] <smo> ?
[01:10] <dave84> Yeah not quite there got this /etc/network/interfaces:19: option with empty value
[01:11] <dave84> ill remove the "s"
[01:11] <valehru> Hey guys, i have ssh access to a machine.  How can I open up port 6600 to all traffic?
[01:13] <gavintu> nanothief: Still there, kashira? Sorry my laptop is really slow. I just put nethack back on after uninstalling everything I could, and it gives me the same error basically.
[01:14] <gavintu> nanothief: I guess I'll reinstall qt4 core.
[01:14] <valehru> well?  Does anyone here know how I could open a port on 6600 using only the console...
[01:14] <nanothief> gavintu: what was the error again?
[01:14] <gavintu> nanothief: Can I PM it to you? About 15 lines.
[01:14] <nanothief> just put it on pastebox
[01:15] <gavintu> Pastebox? Is that a website?
[01:15] <nanothief> gavintu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:15] <selinuxium> valehru: there is a package called fwbuilder. you can run it locally and upload the file to your server...
[01:15] <nanothief> its one of the links in the topic
[01:15] <valehru> selinuxium, thx
[01:16] <yharrow> dave, dont remove the s,  the s should be there just part of wireless-keys
[01:16] <yharrow> dave just remove the space
[01:17] <yharrow> dave, and you can comment out the whole line by placing a # sign before the line,
[01:17] <dave84> yharrow, Should I remove the line altogether? i am getting option with an empty value without the : or Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[01:17] <dave84>     invalid argument ":".
[01:17] <gavintu> nanothief: OK, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7027/ . It's basically the same as the error I got for mixxx, except for the last line.
[01:18] <valehru> selinuxium, do you know of one that I could install remotely and simply administer it over ssh on the console?
[01:18] <dave84> Your too quick
[01:18] <dave84> read my mind
[01:18] <yharrow> dave, you can use dave84 and put the s back the line should look like this   #wireless-keys:
[01:18] <yharrow> dave thanks man :)
[01:19] <nanothief> gavintu: are you using beryl by any chance?
[01:19] <gavintu> nanothief: It's possible that it's a scim error, and the mixxx developers tell me that all their scim code is part of qt (or rather they just leave all the scim stuff to qt)
[01:19] <gavintu> No, bare bones ThinkPad here so nothing fancy.
[01:20] <yharrow> how do I use a bluetooth modem in ubuntu?
[01:20] <nanothief> gavintu: can you put on pastebox the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:20] <yharrow> dial up modem
[01:21] <yharrow> seveas are you the guy who made the seveaz packages?
[01:21] <Seveas> nolo, that's me
[01:21] <Seveas> argh
[01:21] <yharrow> hehe
[01:21] <gavintu> nanothief: OK, but I don't think it's an X problem, everything else works fine after all.
[01:21] <Seveas> actually
[01:21] <wilsontux> helpme espaol spanish
[01:21] <Seveas> !es | wilsontux
[01:21] <ubotu> wilsontux: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:21] <selinuxium> hi Seveas :)
[01:21] <Seveas> hi selinuxium
[01:21] <wilsontux> ok thanks
[01:22] <yharrow> goes to play tecnoballz
[01:22] <valehru> does anyone know the command to open a port using iptables?
[01:22] <dave84> Thanks again
[01:22] <yharrow> dave, did it work?
[01:24] <gavintu> nanothief: Here it is, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7028/
[01:24] <asti> valehru, you can use firestarter to open a port
[01:25] <valehru> asti, I don't have access to the firestarter gui.
[01:25] <valehru> asti, im not on x.  Im using ssh
[01:27] <nanothief> gavintu: is your graphics card an ATI model?
[01:27] <yettenet> Is there any other method to schedule tasks other than Cron?
[01:27] <Frogzoo> valehru: iptables -A INPUT -d hostname -j ACCEPT
[01:27] <yharrow> yay, I just provided technical support over IRC for the first time ever, I am now officially and ubuntu-geek
[01:27] <yharrow> an*
[01:27] <yettenet> gz yharrow
[01:28] <yettenet> :P
[01:28] <gavintu> nanothief: Hmmm, I was just looking at that too. I _believe_ it's an onboard ATI model, but I'm not so sure anymore (it's not actually my computer). Let me see if I can check somehow.
[01:28] <yharrow> yettenet, can you beleive it I managed to fix his wireless connection without actually having him blow his computer
[01:29] <yharrow> up
[01:29] <yettenet> Amazing
[01:29] <yharrow> yeah I know
[01:29] <yharrow> wow
[01:29] <yharrow> :P
[01:29] <yharrow> haha
[01:29] <cafuego_> yettenet: there is 'at'
[01:29] <yettenet> 'at'?
[01:29] <yettenet> I'll give it a look
[01:29] <valehru> Frogzoo, thx
[01:29] <Frogzoo> valehru: np
[01:29] <yharrow> stupid one click default in kde
[01:30] <Frogzoo> valehru: oops - that opens all ports...
[01:30] <talis> Anyone have an answer to this one --> dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `postfix' in statoverride file
[01:30] <talis> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[01:30] <cafuego_> what's with the join spam
[01:30] <valehru> ya....was thinking
[01:30] <sijmen> Is there a gtk or gnome frontend to fstab in Ubuntu?
[01:30] <yettenet> Hm
[01:30] <valehru> Frogzoo, was thinking that..
[01:30] <Frogzoo> valehru: iptables -A INPUT -d hostname --dport service -j ACCEPT
[01:30] <yettenet> ubotu: at
[01:30] <ubotu> at: Delayed job execution and batch processing. In component main, is standard. Version 3.1.10ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 41 kB, installed size 208 kB
[01:31] <yettenet> Doesn't give a link to the documentation S
[01:31] <yettenet> :s
[01:31] <cafuego_> Time to ban 85.* I think
[01:31] <valehru> Frogzoo, was thinking that.....how can i make it accept connections on port 6600?  iptables -A INPUT -d hostname --dport 6600 -j ACCEPT
[01:31] <yettenet> Yup, it seems like...
[01:31] <cafuego_> !ops
[01:31] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[01:31] <valehru> Frogzoo, where host=localhost
[01:31] <gnomefreak> cafuego_: i see it
[01:33] <Seveas> denny, yeah
[01:33] <gavintu> nanothief: OK yeah I have a source that confirms the standard onboard vid card is "ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (Mach64)".
[01:33] <denny> cool
[01:33] <sijmen> Isn't there a standalone version of the mountpoint config tool used in the installer?
[01:33] <Frogzoo> valehru: iptables -A INPUT -d localhost -p tcp --dport service -j ACCEPT
[01:33] <wolfeySI> please:)
[01:33] <talis> Anyone have an answer to this one --> dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `postfix' in statoverride file
[01:33] <Seveas> sijmen, unfortunately not
[01:34] <sijmen> okay.. back to console then :)
[01:34] <nanothief> gavintu: type the command blackjack in a terminal. Is there any output?
[01:34] <Seveas> talis, adduser --system postfix
[01:35] <talis> Seveas: oh okay thank you
[01:35] <yettenet> cafuego_: Could you provide me some information on this 'at' thingy? :P
[01:35] <gavintu> nanothief: Yeah, the game.
[01:36] <cafuego_> yettenet: 'man at' should see you sorted
[01:37] <yettenet> Thanks
[01:37] <yettenet> :)
[01:37] <gavintu> nanothief: Appears to look fine. Doesn't look like qt though O  o;;.
[01:37] <gavintu> *work fine
[01:37] <yettenet> man is the short for manual, right?
[01:37] <mackinac> yettenet:  yes
[01:37] <sijmen> How can I have mount re-read fstab so the new partitions get mounted and stuff?
[01:37] <yettenet> Thanks, another useful command:D
[01:38] <Seveas> sijmen, mount -a
[01:39] <nanothief> gavintu: well i'm stuck then. Usually, the reason that you get X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device (anumber) errors  is a piece of hardware is incorrectly specified in the xorg.conf file. eg i had an X Error once as a stylus was defined in my xorg.conf file (and i don't have a stylus). So I think the problem isn't Qt, but something else. Or i could be completely wrong :-P
[01:40] <gavintu> nanothief: OK, thanks. Ummm... I'll see if these mixxx guys have any other ideas, they're probably getting pretty fed up with me by now. And I'm just reading about a big with scim + qt that could be related, but we'll see. Thanks again.
[01:40] <nanothief> gavintu: it might be better to ask in the qt forums, as it is a problem with qt, not mixxx
[01:41] <wolfeySI> so there's no netboot for kubuntu?
[01:41] <wolfeySI> only for ubuntu?
[01:41] <sijmen> Yay my new partition layout mounted
[01:41] <sijmen> but doesn't appear on the desktop.
[01:41] <wolfeySI> cmon say yes no?
[01:42] <gavintu> nanothief: OK, good idea.
[01:42] <sijmen> How to refresh the mounted filesystems on the desktkop?
[01:42] <litage_> which app tells you which key you're currently pressing?
[01:43] <jrib> litage_: xev
[01:44] <Riddell> wolfeySI: there is only 1 netboot CD, it asks which variant you want during install
[01:44] <Frogzoo> sijmen: logout/login should work
[01:44] <sijmen> hmm :/
[01:44] <sijmen> that seems kind of akward
[01:44] <sijmen> but it'll do
[01:44] <wolfeySI> Riddell: it didnt ask last time
[01:44] <flamesrock>  hey, why is it that dos takes ages to format, but linux takes like two seconds?
[01:45] <wolfeySI> flamesrock: probably linux format doesnt physically erase every sector by default?
[01:45] <wolfeySI> :)
[01:45] <bauer77> one is microsoft one is god...hehe
[01:45] <sijmen> DOS appearently clears the entire disk, whereas with mkfs only a new filesystem index is generated
[01:45] <flamesrock> thanks wolfey
[01:45] <flamesrock> ahhh I see
[01:46] <loiic> Hi there
[01:46] <sijmen> logging in/out, brb
[01:48] <sijmen> I logged in and out, but while the filesystems are mounted they still do not appear on the desktop
[01:48] <sijmen> Do I need to have them by UUID in my fstab? or is /dev/hdaX fine?
[01:48] <loiic> i am new to ubuntu, coming with a debian background, i got a brand new ubuntu-server with 6.10 installed, and i heard that the init mechanism in this version has been replaced by upstart, i guess it does make a lot of change underneath, but i still can see scripts in /etc/init.d and the rc.d folders, do have i to do thing any differently than what i am used to?
[01:49] <Zaggynl> !update
[01:49] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:50] <mackinac> sijmen:  try to disable then re-enable the icons at "gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop" .. see if that updates it
[01:51] <bimberi> loiic: no, upstart supports those scripts.  Things may change down the track though - in future Ubuntu releases
[01:52] <loiic> bimberi: but at the moment using those scripts is still the only solution, or there is a proper way to get things done the ubuntu way
[01:53] <Mena> Is there a nice program to enable me edit video files and cutt it and this stuff
[01:53] <bimberi> loiic: they're still the ubuntu way :)
[01:53] <loiic> bimberi: eheh ok, which is?
[01:54] <yettenet> Ah... Cron works... again
[01:54] <yettenet> Finally :D
[01:54] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi all! I think Ive screwed up my system when trying to install according to the unofficial ATI-driver-wiki....
[01:54] <sijmen> mackinac: did that. Now I also know how to enable the trash icon, but my two volumes are still not mounted
[01:54] <sijmen> *visible
[01:55] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> theres a problem with the linux-restricted-modules and now I cant even apt-get remove it!
[01:55] <NoEvidenZ> UbuntuN00B_HBG: What seems to be the problem?
[01:55] <NoEvidenZ> Ah.
[01:55] <sijmen> it's about these two partitions: /dev/hda7 on /media/data type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)
[01:55] <sijmen> /dev/hda6 on /media/rsync type ext3 (rw)
[01:55] <bimberi> loiic: update-rc.d, invoke-rc.d, basing new scripts on /etc/init.d/skeleton (if I've understood your question)
[01:55] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> I like the "Ah" statement... sound reassuring! ;)
[01:55] <techie1> good morning all
[01:55] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> 'morning!
[01:55] <litage_> thanks jrib
[01:55] <NoEvidenZ> UbuntuN00B_HBG: I know about as much on the topic as you do. I'm actually here for help myself.
[01:56] <loiic> ah ok bimberi, but that's still the same as things are done in debian, i thought upstart might have introduced some new commands etc
[01:56] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> NoEvidenZ: too bad! ;)
[01:56] <NoEvidenZ> UbuntuN00B_HBG: Sorry. :P
[01:56] <idefix_> if you have a CDrom and a DVDrom and the DVDrom seems dead but the CDrom works the controller on your motherboard can't be broken right? especially since the working rom is the slave and the other master?
[01:56] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> techie1: can you rupposrt me with my problematic linux-restricted-modules?
[01:57] <vignesh> hey...
[01:57] <NoEvidenZ> !chat > NoEvidenZ
[01:57] <techie1> Can anybody comment. I am recently very "extremely happy" to have discovered Ubuntu and all the other related linux programs available. Having been a windows user for a few years, I have arrived to the conclusion, or maybe is a matter of principle, that I totally want to switch gears and get my next machine already installed with linux rather than windows. Any suggestions as to the type of "best" computer out there for
[01:57] <vignesh> Do i need a graphics card to use XGL ?
[01:58] <techie1> Also which is prefer by you all in here: Ubuntu, Slax, DSL, Suse, etc... and why?
[01:58] <vignesh> I just got an Intel 945 motherboard.. so is this onboard intel graphics enough to use XGL ?
[01:58] <IdleOne> techie1, get a computer you can afford with no OS ( check hardware compatibility ) and then install ubuntu on it yourself
[01:58] <Frogzoo> !hardware | techie1 make sure all your hardware has linux drivers
[01:58] <ubotu> techie1 make sure all your hardware has linux drivers: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:59] <IdleOne> techie1, being this is #ubuntu I would say Ubuntu is the preffered OS
good avice, thanks.
[01:59] <bright_fame> techie1: if you don't want to figure out all the compatibility issues yourself take a look at system76.com
how do I check that?
[01:59] <bright_fame> (they preinstall ubuntu)
[01:59] <NoEvidenZ> techie1: Build one and install Ubuntu on it. I'd advise against getting any preloaded OS. You end up with too much crap from the company that put it together.
[01:59] <techie1> ah, thanks ubotu
[01:59] <Frogzoo> techie1: also go for an nvidia video card, ati support is a bit patchy
[02:00] <vignesh> anyone ?
[02:00] <janga> vignesh, yes
[02:00] <wolfeySI> Frogzoo: that's nasty rumour
[02:00] <wolfeySI> ati works great
[02:00] <bauer77> yes I would advise a nvidia card too
[02:00] <bauer77> ati is a pain in the you know what
[02:00] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Frogzoo: yeah.... Im wrestling with my ati-drivers as we speak...
[02:00] <vignesh> janga: so I can`t use XGL without  a graphics card ?
[02:00] <bauer77> as I have been UbuntuN00B_HBG
[02:00] <bright_fame> vignesh: i have beryl running on intel graphics :\ not sure if same as yours though
[02:00] <wolfeySI> bauer77: i have good experience with recent ati drivers, thank you
[02:00] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Frogzoo: worked fine until I started fiddling with it... :P
it all makes sense
[02:01] <vignesh> bright_fame: Mine is an Intel 945
[02:01] <janga> vignesh, intel IS an onboard graphics card
[02:01] <bauer77> what are you running for a card wolfey?
[02:01] <wolfeySI> 9600xt
[02:01] <Phocean_> why don't you use beryl ?
[02:01] <no_gatez_fan> ati x800 here no problems
[02:01] <bauer77> everytime I come in here someone is having problems with their ATI, rarelly see nvidia issues
[02:01] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> no_gatez_fan: did you install the drivers from ati.amd.com?
[02:01] <vignesh> janga: sorry mine is a 946GZ
[02:01] <Frogzoo> no_gatez_fan: frame rates under ati+wine are the suxors
[02:01] <no_gatez_fan> yes
[02:01] <bright_fame> vignesh: will look mine up for you...
[02:01] <Phocean_> beryl rox with my i915gm graphics
[02:01] <bauer77> I am using a Radeon Mobility 9700 and have been struggling with it from the get go
[02:01] <techie1> I have also seen ubuntu program (downloable and around 600 mb or so) and other places I see a disk for 3.5 G (probably with lots of crap). Basically the main disk which I am using now (a live CD) is about 698 MG. Is that the normal one?
[02:01] <wolfeySI> bauer77: trick is to set xorg.conf right
[02:02] <techie1> or is that all I need
[02:02] <vignesh> bright_fame: mine is a Intel 946GZ
[02:02] <bauer77> well if your offering to help..lol
[02:02] <wolfeySI> for example UseFastTLS works best with 1 .. 0 and 2 aint good
[02:02] <bauer77> unfortunately I am still a noob to the linux world
[02:02] <no_gatez_fan> i did a text install then loaded it from there
[02:02] <wolfeySI> and 'export pseudocolor visuals' must be off, or no xv for you
[02:02] <no_gatez_fan> i dont know if i had to but that is the way i been doing it
[02:03] <bauer77> I installed the ATI drivers from the ati website but it keeps showing up with the mesa drivers
[02:03] <bauer77> in xorg.conf
[02:03] <NoEvidenZ> Can anyone tell me about the Integrated VIA DeltaChrome GPU? Is it like.. Decent, or is it just a fancy name?
[02:03] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> anyone here who can help me with my linux-restricted-modules package? I cant remove it... apt-get just stops...
[02:03] <bright_fame> vignesh: 82865G using i916 driver
[02:03] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: what is the message
[02:03] <bright_fame> runs beryl fine
[02:04] <bright_fame> (using AIGLX)
[02:04] <vignesh> bright_fame: u don`t have an extra graphics card ?
[02:04] <bright_fame> nope
[02:04] <techie1> Is the ubuntu disk (downloadble from ubuntu.com) all I need? Or are there any commercial ubuntu CD's that I could buy with more programs?
[02:04] <bright_fame> dell 1100 dimension
[02:04] <bright_fame> intel integrated
[02:04] <vignesh> cool.. then it should work on mine too.. Thanks
[02:04] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: well... apt-get starts removing it... no error-messages... but it just hangs, CPU-load 0%
[02:04] <ikonia_> bauer77 why are you not using the drivers from the ubuntu repo
[02:05] <bright_fame> techie1: install from the disk, download anything else
[02:05] <bright_fame> using synaptic
[02:05] <techie1> thanks bright
[02:05] <no_gatez_fan> 26801 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5360.021 FPS is what i get
[02:06] <kenthomson> HELP; how do i make all the icons in my desktop disappear, i want to hide them. PLease help
[02:06] <ikonia_> delete them
is there a way to use synaptic while still using the liveCD and downloding programs? I tried it but apparently since I have not partitioned and still using livecd it does not download additional programs.
[02:06] <ikonia_> or disable them in gconf
[02:06] <kenthomson> ikonia_, is there a difference between delete and hide?
[02:06] <NoEvidenZ> Can anyone tell me about the Integrated VIA DeltaChrome GPU? Is it like.. Decent, or is it just a fancy name?
[02:06] <kenthomson> ikonia_, the key in gconf is what i am searching for, i can't find it
[02:06] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: weired... it does that only with this package right ? have you tried to remove another one ?
[02:07] <ikonia_> kenthomson just delete them
[02:07] <bright_fame> techie1: never tried - but sounds like it wouldn't work very well to me
[02:07] <mackinac> kenthomson:  gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop"
[02:07] <kenthomson> ikonia_, but i want to HIDE them, not delete :(
[02:07] <kenthomson> mackinac, let me see that!
[02:07] <ikonia_> whats the point - if you hide them you can't use them, so delete them
[02:07] <dmb062082> now that i have everything set up the way i want.... how do i go about remastering into a dvd/live dvd?
[02:07] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: nope... I could try though... the problems startes when I tried INSTALLING it... same thing there, just froze... so I tried removing it... no luck...
[02:07] <Mena> what is the diffrence between ubuntu amd64  and just ubuntu
 thanks again. One final questions I am using mirc to get here (a windows program) which is the counterpart for Ubuntu.... xchat?
[02:07] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: should I try to remove another package?
[02:08] <ikonia_> Mena one is 64bit
[02:08] <dmb062082> mena: the 64 bit version is for amd64 bit processors
[02:08] <bright_fame> i'm use GAIM
[02:08] <techie1> or are there others
[02:08] <Sakunix> hi anyone with experience getting Ubuntu 6.06.1 onto a Mac PowerBook G3?
[02:08] <Bogaurd> techie1: yeah, xhcat is pretty good
[02:08] <bright_fame> works great
[02:08] <kenthomson> mackinac, there is no option in there to HIDE all of them (not "draw" them)
[02:08] <Bogaurd> techie1: you'll feel comfortable in xchat most likely if you've used MiRC
[02:08] <kenthomson> ikonia_, hiding allows one to restore them
[02:08] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: I think it is an apt issue
[02:08] <Mena> ikonia, dmb062082, ohh ok
[02:08] <Bogaurd> techie1: there are dozens :)
[02:08] <Mena> thanks
[02:08] <Mena> :)
[02:08] <kenthomson> ikonia_, though one can always move them to other folder from desktop and copy them back, but i am looking for a official way
[02:09] <ikonia_> kenthomson gconf editor is the way
[02:09] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: ok, any ideas how to troubleshoot or resolve?
[02:09] <mackinac> ohh, hide all ....
[02:09] <kenthomson> ikonia_, i can't find the key to edit to make all the icons
[02:09] <kenthomson> mackinac, yes not just the trash or home, but all of them
[02:09] <kenthomson> ikonia_, * to hide all icons
[02:09] <ikonia_> gconf editor
[02:10] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: maybe something wrong with your source.list... how is apt-update now ?
[02:10] <kenthomson> ikonia_, what is the name of the key in there that i should edit?????
[02:10] <bright_fame> isn't there some why to tell nautilus to stop managing the desktop background?
[02:10] <ikonia_> I don't know of the top of my head - each application thats not part of gnome will have its own
[02:10] <sipher> How do I get bunzip2 to output to a different directory? Just do bunzip2 <file> <outpath>?
[02:10] <ikonia_> so home and trashcan are part of gnome
[02:10] <ikonia_> firefox for example is not
[02:10] <bright_fame> dave yates (lottalinuxlinks) mentioned this once on his podcast i think
[02:10] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_:  ill just kill the synaptic, its frozen on the restricted-modules... you want me to sudo apt-get update?
[02:11] <kenthomson> ikonia_, so you mean to say there is no official way to hide all the icons with just editing a single key eg.setting some key called "icons_visible" to "false". or are you not aware?
[02:11] <mackinac> kenthomson:  gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/preferences > show desktop
[02:11] <ikonia_> kenthomson don't know, probably not as gnome can only control gnome configuration data
[02:11] <Sakunix> How do I get a mac to boot from cdrom? Want to get Ubuntu onto it but can't get it to boot ubuntu
[02:11] <Phocean_>  UbuntuN00B_HBG: yeah, kill synaptic, open a terminal and type : # apt-get clean and then # apt-get update
[02:11] <soundray> Sakunix: hold the 'C' key down during boot
[02:12] <Sakunix> k soundray will try that
[02:12] <dmb062082> can someone type out my nick im testing something
[02:12] <kenthomson> mackinac, got it thanks! :)
[02:12] <Sakunix> dmb062082 ?
[02:12] <kenthomson> mackinac, and people told me searching the forum is faster than loitering in the IRC
[02:12] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: well... it wants me to do a dpkg --configure -a, i think it might be that restricted-module thats haunting again...
[02:12] <dmb062082> thanks
[02:13] <kenthomson> ikonia_, i appreciate your efforts
[02:13] <kenthomson> bye!
[02:14] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: well, the dpkg --configure -a didnt return any errors, rerunning apt-get update
[02:14] <Sakunix> booted into Mac OS... again
[02:14] <Sakunix> any other ideas?
[02:14] <soundray> Sakunix: maybe your CD isn't bootable. What's in the CD root folder when you look at it in Mac OS?
[02:14] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: it is because it hadn't finished installing it, I think it should be alright now... (I hope)
[02:14] <Sakunix> Its got folders in it
[02:14] <Sakunix> :)
[02:15] <Sakunix> I'll look again
[02:15] <soundray> Sakunix: files as well?
[02:15] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: apt-get update went OK... but ive tried that just prior to apt-get remove the restricted-module.. and it still hanged... I think it will hang again if I try to apt-get remove it!
[02:15] <bauer77> anyone have issues with azureus just closing after it opens?
[02:15] <Sakunix> soundray: One file from memory
[02:15] <soundray> Sakunix: can you look at it now and tell me the filename pls
[02:16] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: by the way, why do you want to remove it ?
[02:16] <soundray> bauer77: I've seen other people complain about it. Have you got Sun Java installed?
[02:16] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: because apt-get hanged when trying to install it... :P
[02:16] <Sakunix> soundray: md5sum.txt README.diskdefines
[02:16] <Sakunix> those are the only two
[02:17] <soundray> Sakunix: what version of Ubuntu is this?
[02:17] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: killing the installation and then running dpkg --configure -a just hanged too...
[02:17] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: I see
[02:17] <Orfeous> got problems connecting to my Digital Camera with Digikam in KDE
[02:17] <Orfeous> i have a Casio QV-5700
[02:18] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: so im swimming on circles here... dont now how to find the error...
[02:18] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> *know
[02:18] <joerack> guys, I'm really going bonkers here: is there a decent autoscript for beryl? please
[02:18] <joerack> every time I install beryl X is corruptede
[02:18] <Sakunix> soundray: 6.06 LTS for Mac
[02:18] <dmb062082> how do you print screen?
[02:18] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: what release of ubuntu are you on ?
[02:18] <dmb062082> ha sorry
[02:18] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: edgy
[02:18] <dmb062082> lame question
[02:18] <bright_fame> joerack: beryl wiki didn't help you?
[02:18] <soundray> Sakunix: okay, what kind of Mac have you got?
[02:19] <boubbin> how to see my ip in shell.
[02:19] <dmb062082> jperack did you edit your xorg.conf
[02:19] <Sakunix> I have one of the paperweight variety
[02:19] <soundray> boubbin: ifconfig
[02:19] <Pici> boubbin: ifconfig
[02:19] <Sakunix>  :)
[02:19] <dmb062082> what kind of graphics card do you have?
[02:19] <soundray> Sakunix: G3? G4? G5?
[02:19] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: I don't have any idea anymore... I thought the package you downloaded was corrupted and apt-get clean should have corrected it
[02:19] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: I could let ju VNC my computer... give you my IP pver a private chat... if youd like to help me
[02:19] <Sakunix> Its a Mac PowerBook G3 soundray :)
[02:19] <foRza> Is is possible to make a user-group become member of another group?
[02:20] <joerack> bright_fame: I followed the instructions where you create a auto script yourself, installing beta nvidia drv, but x corrupted
[02:20] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: well... didnt try the apt-get clean until you told me! ill test synaptics again to see if the rtestricted module still is there and marked for removal!
[02:20] <Sakunix> foRza: new "feature" that would be :)
[02:20] <dmb062082> how the heck do i take a desktop screen shot?
[02:20] <dmb062082> =0
[02:20] <soundray> Sakunix: do you have a Mac system CD for testing if you can boot from that?
[02:20] <Pici> dmb062082: press your print-screen key
[02:20] <soundray> Sakunix: s/if/whether/
[02:21] <Sakunix> I in fact don't soundray
[02:21] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: we can try VNC if you wish (not sure the bandwith will be good where I am)
[02:21] <Sakunix> on that note you know whether Mac OS is free?
[02:21] <IdleOne> dmb062082, Applications>Accesories>Screenshot
[02:21] <soundray> Sakunix: no!
[02:21] <Sakunix> soundray : Don'y want to format this then :)
[02:21] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: sure! Ill just give synaptics another spin and see if theres any improvement!
[02:21] <Sakunix> soundray : mgiht ghost it first :D
[02:21] <chiefbearclaw> use envy to install ati / nvidia drivers
[02:21] <soundray> Sakunix: have you got OS 9 or X?
[02:22] <Sakunix> uname -a work under mac?
[02:22] <IdleOne> Sakunix, it should
[02:22] <Pici> dmb062082: If that doesnt work, theres a gnome panel applet called gnome-screenshot that will take a screenshot after you press the button
[02:22] <Sakunix> never used a mac before
[02:22] <soundray> Sakunix: not in Mac OS. Click on the Apple icon and select About this Mac
[02:22] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: hmm... the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17.11-generic is still there, and marked for removal...
[02:22] <Sakunix> soundray its Mac OS X!
[02:22] <fishy_penguin> where should I go to try to get an app added to repository?
[02:23] <Sakunix> woohoo
[02:23] <Sakunix> Does this mean I am cool?
[02:23] <soundray> Sakunix: did you burn the CD under Mac OS?
[02:23] <dmb062082> thanks
[02:23] <soundray> Sakunix: I'm sure you're cool, whatever OS you run.
[02:23] <Sakunix> I did not no.. Its from a box of about a million ubuntu disks
[02:23] <chiefbearclaw> http://albertomilone.com/index.html < for installing the latest ati drivers under ubuntu edgy this worked great.
[02:23] <IdleOne> Sakunix, you trying to boot ubuntu CD? if so put the cd in reboot the machine and hold down the letter C while booting
[02:24] <soundray> IdleOne: tried that
[02:24] <Sakunix> IdleOne tryed that
[02:24] <Sakunix> IdleOne tried opt+cmd+sht+del, opt+cmd+o+f
[02:24] <soundray> Sakunix: make sure you press the C key during the chime and hold it for about 20 seconds
[02:24] <Sakunix> I've tryed alot
[02:24] <Sakunix> kk won't hurt to try again soundray
[02:24] <soundray> Sakunix: did you manage to get into Open Firmware?
[02:25] <Sakunix> soundray : I did once
[02:25] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: well... didnt remove it from synaptics... just unmarked it for removal instead... perhaps that solves my problem...
[02:25] <Sakunix> soundray: But can't do it again for some readson
[02:25] <soundray> Sakunix: it isn't the keyboard's fault then
[02:25] <soundray> Sakunix: or maybe it is
[02:25] <soundray> Sakunix: is it plugged in?
[02:25] <soundray> Sakunix: (scnr)
[02:26] <foRza> Is it possible to add a wildcard or something to a group, so that everyone becomes members?
[02:26] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: did you see my private message ?
[02:26] <IdleOne> Sakunix, you got that Mac for free didnt you?
[02:26] <fishy_penguin> anyone know who I gotta bug to get an app considered to be added?
[02:26] <Sakunix> soundray: its powerbook I am using the keyboard thats embeded inthe machine
[02:26] <Sakunix> IdleOne: How did you guess! :)
[02:26] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: nope... perhaps im not registered at the msgserver?
[02:27] <IdleOne> Sakunix, 
[02:27] <shaw1> does anyone know why the add/remove program keeps closing randomly on me
[02:27] <Sakunix> IdleOne: 10 year old powerbook that has a screen you can only see by looking at it at a 10 degree angle :)
[02:27] <soundray> Sakunix: if it was a horse, I'd take it to the abattoir
[02:27] <Sakunix> once ubuntu is on it will make a tops something..
[02:27] <Pici> Sakunix: 10 years old running OSX?
[02:27] <fishy_penguin> i wouldn't by that horse if i was short of glue
[02:28] <soundray> Pici: X years old!
[02:28] <Sakunix> Pici: yes 266mhz and 256mb of pure lean mean mac os x fighting machine this thing is
[02:28] <IdleOne> Sakunix, it might just be to old but try googling that model and see if you can find anything. 10 yrs? didnt think OSX could run on machines that old
[02:28] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: did you read my private message just now?
[02:28] <Phocean_> no
[02:28] <Phocean_> well
[02:28] <Phocean_>  I honestly don't see well what is going on
[02:28] <Phocean_>  and :
[02:28] <Phocean_>  apt-get remove -f <restricted modules>
[02:29] <soundray> IdleOne: it may be old, but it shouldn't be too old to boot off a bootable CD.
[02:29] <IdleOne> soundray, true
[02:29] <Sakunix> soundray: Thats all I want to see
[02:29] <Igor_V2> how can i get the java plugins to my firefox??
[02:29] <IdleOne> soundray, iso burned properly?
[02:29] <tfh> Hello anyone here using exfalso on edgy ?
[02:29] <Tmob> anyone here setup apache here?
[02:29] <Sakunix> IdleOne: If I could get the ubuntu menu id check for defaults
[02:29] <soundray> IdleOne: I wanted to check that... Sakunix?
[02:29] <Sakunix> but I cant
[02:29] <IdleOne> igor47, sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugins
[02:30] <Sakunix> couldnt md5 it
[02:30] <Sakunix> Could I
[02:30] <Sakunix> dunno enough mac yet only used it for all of 15 minutes
[02:30] <soundray> Sakunix: if you had a running ubuntu machine of any variety, you could md5 the CD there.
[02:30] <Pici> Sakunix: Try getting an md5sum off the computer you're on now
[02:30] <MrPrimate> anyone have a tip on how to recursively delete hidden dirs?  (without wiping the entire drive)
[02:30] <Sakunix> ideas man you are
[02:31] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: Ill try the apt-get remove -f
[02:31] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: apt-get remove -f <restricted modules> ?
[02:31] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: ok!
[02:32] <soundray> MrPrimate: find . -name \.\* | xargs rm -rf
[02:32] <soundray> MrPrimate: dangerous!
[02:32] <Sakunix> IdleOne, Pici, soundray: Are the discs in the Offical sleeves flakey at all?
[02:32] <IdleOne> Sakunix, I havent had any problems with the Shipit cd's nope
[02:32] <Sakunix> super cheap 2c coffee costers?
[02:32] <soundray> Sakunix: no, they are well made
[02:32] <PORDO> how do i find a file that contains a certain phrase, within a directory?
[02:32] <fishy_penguin> ahhh.. i need to be in ubuntu-motu
[02:32] <Sakunix> Thats what I ma using
[02:32] <MrPrimate> soundray: ouch,.. that's the easiest way that you know of ?
[02:32] <soundray> PORDO: grep
[02:33] <soundray> !cli | PORDO
[02:33] <ubotu> PORDO: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:33] <MrPrimate> I would hope that there is some easier way to delete all of the hidden sub-dirs, like to clean out a home direcroryt
[02:33] <MrPrimate> I suppose I could move everything that is not hidden somewhere else, and then delete it all
[02:33] <Sakunix> doing md5sum /dev/cdrom? That going to give me the right number?
[02:34] <soundray> MrPrimate: what's difficult about the command I suggested?
[02:34] <MrPrimate> soundray: it's not actually difficult, it just seems a bit tedious for a simple operation,
[02:34] <PORDO> is it grep - r ./ "phrase" ?
[02:34] <IdleOne> soundray, remembering it lol
[02:34] <knoppix_derbinat> I'm new to the unix console, I'm trying to open an x-window type connection. Does anyone know if there is a knoppix 5.0 application that could do this?
[02:34] <MrPrimate> soundray: let me poke at it for a moment and see if there's anything questionable
[02:35] <bcox> Anybody able to advise on making power management (suspend/hibernate) work on Dell Inspiron 8600?
[02:35] <soundray> PORDO: no, it's "grep Phrase *"
[02:35] <Sakunix> soundray: You a Mac user at all?
[02:35] <soundray> MrPrimate: try 'find . -name \.\* | xargs ls' for playing
[02:35] <MrPrimate> soundray: is this going to run   rm -rf     on every file in every subdirectory, or just the dirs ?
[02:35] <foRza> PORDO: grep "your phrase" *
[02:35] <soundray> Sakunix: yes, light user
[02:35] <PORDO> thank you!
[02:35] <PORDO> found it.
[02:35] <Sakunix> soundray: Worth spending some time with?
[02:36] <soundray> Sakunix: can you rephrase that question?
[02:36] <mwe> How do you prevent network-manager from loading each time you log in to gnome?
[02:36] <MrPrimate> soundray: it's not really so bad, it just looked a bit long for something simple
[02:36] <mwe> I don't use it
[02:36] <IdleOne> Sakunix, OSX is a nice OS
[02:36] <Sakunix> soundray: Did you find it useful to spend some time learning about
[02:36] <MrPrimate> personally, I think maybe they should re-think the idea of having    .  ..   and .hidden dirs sharing the same convention, it's a problem
[02:37] <Sakunix> IdleOne: I am looking at it. It does look very impressive
[02:37] <MrPrimate> i bet 9 out of 10 people would agree that it's a problem
[02:37] <ALL4N> any good suggestions for how to set up vpn connection in ubuntu?
[02:37] <soundray> Sakunix: I have a Mac because I need just one particular application. I dual-boot Ubuntu on it and use that most of the time.
[02:37] <MrPrimate> ALL4N: to connect to an existing windows-based VPN or to create one ?
[02:37] <Sakunix> I've used ibm pc all my life. First mac I ever touched now
[02:37] <ALL4N> MrPrimate: connect to an existing one
[02:37] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: ok... well... 'apt-get remove -f' checked dependencies, removed a few packages and now its stuck on "Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ..."
[02:38] <foRza> Is it possible to add a wildcard or something to a group, so that everyone becomes members of that group?
[02:38] <ALL4N> MrPrimate: not sure whether it is windows-based or not
[02:38] <MrPrimate> ALL4N: there are a number of tools, depending on what type of vpn, like whether it's a windows one or cisco, etc
[02:38] <bcox> *Anybody able to advise on making power management (suspend/hibernate) work on Dell Inspiron 8600?
[02:38] <soundray> MrPrimate: 'find . -type d -name \.\*' will find only directories beginning with a dot
[02:38] <ALL4N> MrPrimate: I know it is IPSec/Managed/Dualaccess
[02:39] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: I don't have any further idea... :(
[02:39] <sipher> Still can't get bunzip2 to let me output to a different directory. Thought I had it but.. nope. :\ Anyone know?
[02:39] <MrPrimate> soundray: wait isn't that going to match .. too, leaving me in the same position as if i just rm -rf .* (!!!!!)
[02:39] <crazney_> heya, i'm having a problem with my ubuntu installed.. i recently took out one of my ide hdds and put in a new sata one.. neither of them is used / mounted / anything in ubuntu.. but now i don't seem to be able to access my cd drive in ubuntu - i get this in the dmesg:
[02:40] <crazney_> [   26.971531]  ide1: I/O resource 0x376-0x376 not free.
[02:40] <crazney_> [   26.971533]  hdc: ERROR, PORTS ALREADY IN USE
[02:40] <crazney_> anyone have any idea what could be going on?
[02:40] <Sakunix> bbs, getting a pc out of the car
[02:40] <ALL4N> MrPrimate: Currently I am using windows AT&T client to connect to the vpn
[02:40] <soundray> MrPrimate: strange -- it seems to match . but not ..
[02:40] <bcox> I've used the system/settings/power mgt menu to select hibernate on lid closed. But opening the lid comes up to a boot prompt (select windoze or ubuntu).
[02:40] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: a delicate problem indeed... me thinks UbuntuN00B_HBG need a UbuntuWizard... :P well... you gave it a shot and im very grateful!
[02:40] <soundray> MrPrimate: still, that is a problem!
[02:41] <benjie> This may not be distribution specific question, but is there anwyay to for the use of a certain domain controller or even exclude a domain controller for authentication with kerberos5?
[02:41] <Phocean_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: you are welcome ! please let me know if someone here find a workaround...
[02:42] <MrPrimate> hehe, that's kind of odd , i can't really think of any explanation for that to include . without ..
[02:42] <soundray> MrPrimate: can you reproduce that behaviour, though?
[02:43] <MrPrimate> soundray: what are you referring to?  it seems to match . but not .. , every single time
[02:43] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Phocean_: Okey! Im in the swedish channel now... crossing my fingers
[02:43] <soundray> MrPrimate: thanks, that's what I wanted to hear
[02:44] <kenthomson> HELP; how can i have different backgrounds (desktop wallpapers) on different sides of the beryl cude (or workspaces)?
[02:44] <MrPrimate> soundray: I suppose it's intentional, to prevent find from crawling endlessly,
[02:45] <soulfreshner> how do I show a list of 'updateble' files using apt-get?
[02:45] <dmb062082> what are the best options for remastering... to keep beryl and such intact?
[02:45] <soulfreshner> ie. all files that need to be updated
[02:45] <MrPrimate> soundray: but it really does expose a filesystem flaw with the . and .. shared with the hidden directory bit,.. personally, i think there should be a sort of hidden flag that is not a part of the filename, which could be referenced by a character or some new key, right ?
[02:45] <MrPrimate> maybe that's just me :)
[02:46] <andyjeffries> Can anyone help me figure out why my CD-ROM drive isn't appearing under Ubuntu (it works fine if I boot off the Live CD or reboot into Vista)?
[02:46] <soundray> soulfreshner: use the -s option (simulate)
[02:46] <Nalleman> how to add link from a fat disk on the desktop?
[02:46] <kenthomson> Anyone cares to enlighten me on different wallpapers on different workspaces?
[02:46] <Nalleman> how to add link from a fat32 disk on the desktop?
[02:46] <soulfreshner> tat, soundray
[02:46] <soulfreshner> tat=ta
[02:47] <errante> hollo
[02:47] <soundray> MrPrimate: I think your argument is valid. The thing about conventions, though, is that once they are 20 or 30 years old, it'll need more than a convincing argument to change them...
[02:48] <andyjeffries> I'm using 6.10, fully updated if that helps....
[02:48] <soundray> Nalleman: fat doesn't know links
[02:48] <benjie> This may not be distribution specific question, but is there anwyay to for the use of a certain domain controller or even exclude a domain controller for authentication with kerberos5?
[02:48] <Pici> benjie: It sounds like you probably want to ask that in ##windows
[02:48] <Nalleman> soundray, ... ok... is it possible to have a similar funktion then? l
[02:49] <benjie> Pici, will do...thanks
[02:49] <MrPrimate> soundray: right,... but whoever is writing the next great operating system , will make sure to change this we hope :)
[02:49] <brian_> hi
[02:50] <MrPrimate> I really am curious whether we will all be switching to some really different new operating system, or if we'll continue down the endlessly modified unix path of enlightenment
[02:50] <soundray> Nalleman: I think I got you the wrong way round. Maybe what you want is 'ln -sf /fat/mountpoint $HOME/Desktop/fatlink'?
[02:50] <brian_> how do i tell a pcmcia network card to use the hostap driver?..
[02:50] <MrPrimate> what do you guys think, in 10 years will we be using another evolution of unixy-like OS, or something completely different ?
[02:51] <kaushal> Hi
[02:51] <kaushal> I cant see any of the users who are in the same channel as myself.
[02:51] <elkbuntu> !offtopic | MrPrimate
[02:51] <ubotu> MrPrimate: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:51] <zsh> hi.how can i find out the service or app accessing a given port on my pc?
[02:52] <soundray> MrPrimate: I'm pretty certain that I will stick with unix. Although I am sometimes attracted by interface concepts like Aqua or Symphony OS, there is rarely a reason to change the underlying system. I'll stop offtopic now, sorry
[02:52] <zsh> and kill it
[02:52] <zsh> something is eating up my bandwidth and i cant figure out what
[02:53] <zsh> i'm using ubuntu edgy btw
[02:53] <ALL4N> zsh: netstat might help
[02:53] <soundray> zsh: access netstat through System-Administration-Network Tools
[02:53] <MrPrimate> ubotu: sorry, i thought it was a bit ubuntu related, i kind of think ubuntu will live beyond kernels and operating systems in a way :)  but i'm done off-topisizing
[02:54] <zsh> ALL4N, soundray, ok
[02:55] <IdleOne> Fnux, dont abuse fish please
[02:55] <elkbuntu> !bot | MrPrimate
[02:55] <ubotu> MrPrimate: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:55] <basil> zsh :  just use  the command    netstat -lnp
[02:55] <twisties> !lamp
[02:55] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:56] <brian_> !hostap
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hostap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <brian_> :-(
[02:56] <soundray> !msgthebot
[02:56] <twisties> lol
[02:56] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:56] <brian_> !hostapd
[02:56] <ubotu> hostapd: user space IEEE 802.11 AP and IEEE 802.1X/WPA/WPA2/EAP Authenticator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.5.3-1 (edgy), package size 169 kB, installed size 508 kB
[02:56] <elkbuntu> MrPrimate, basically, we use this channel for support questions. philosophical questions like you asked are better served in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:56] <rogue-> Hello everyone. So I hear that idiot ESR has moved from Fedora to Ubuntu. What are the general thoughts/feelings about this?
[02:57] <IdleOne> !offtopic | rogue-
[02:57] <ubotu> rogue-: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:57] <stouset> Anyone else experiencing an extremely slow gnome-terminal?
[02:57] <phazeman> hi people. do i have to do anything special while installing ubuntu on dual core macine with sata HD ?
[02:57] <brian_> anybody her who can help me with hostapd?
[02:57] <zsh> the offening app is using 1073, i can tell that from tcpdump but 1073 doesnt  show in netstat, basil, ALL4N, soundray
[02:57] <stouset> It starts up fine, but slows to a crawl after a few minutes of use. reset brings it back to normal speed.
[02:57] <stouset> phazeman: no.
[02:58] <phazeman> stouset: it will be detected automaticaly and install the right kernel ?
[02:58] <soundray> phazeman: make an educated decision about whether to use i386 or amd64. From then on, it's pretty smooth.
[02:58] <elkbuntu> rogue-, #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place for that question as it is the 'random chatter' channel. This is the support channel.
[02:58] <stouset> phazeman: That would be pretty much what's implied by my 'no'.
[02:58] <phazeman> soundray: i'm not on AMD. it;'s intel
[02:58] <rogue-> elkbuntu: yes, thank you, got it already.
[02:58] <michal_> lol
[02:58] <stouset> phazeman: You shouldn't have any problems.
[02:58] <phazeman> soundray: thanks
[02:58] <soundray> phazeman: I thought so. amd64 runs on Core 2 Duo processors, too.
[02:59] <phazeman> soundray: i'm not on core duo.. the regular duo
[02:59] <phazeman> the older one
[02:59] <phazeman> but thanks anyway, i will try it tonight or tomorrow morning
[02:59] <soundray> phazeman: Pentium D?
[02:59] <xtknight> core duo is 32bit only, does not support amd64
[02:59] <xtknight> core 2 duo supports amd64
[02:59] <phazeman> soundray: it's Intel Core Duo 2.8
[03:00] <phazeman> 2.8 GHz i mean oof course
[03:00] <phazeman> s/oof/off
[03:00] <IdleOne> s/off/of
[03:00] <IdleOne> 
[03:00] <phazeman> :)
[03:00] <xtknight> phazeman: i386 only for your cpu
[03:00] <phazeman> xtknight: thanks...
[03:01] <zyth> xtknight, no, amd64 will work for him, core duo supports EMT64
[03:01] <zyth> :P
[03:01] <soundray> phazeman: okay. i386 then. Make sure you get edgy
[03:01] <phazeman> soundray: 6.10 you mean ?
[03:01] <IdleOne> phazeman, yes
[03:01] <xtknight> zyth: only core 2 duo
[03:01] <zyth> oh
[03:01] <soundray> phazeman: yes
[03:01] <zyth> hes core 1?
[03:01] <zyth> n/m then
[03:01] <xtknight> yea
[03:01] <phazeman> cool, just finihed burning the alternate cd...
[03:02] <phazeman> it's been a while since i've installed linux desktop... hope i will not break anything :)
[03:02] <soundray> phazeman: remember, data you haven't backed up is data you don't want.
[03:02] <mwe> Can you remove xchat from the notification area? It annoys me ;)
[03:03] <joerack> anybody can help me out with beryl? I've reinstalled 5 times
[03:03] <joerack> just a tip
[03:03] <phazeman> soundray: i'm a very old linux user... was a #mandrake chanop once... but moved back to w$ because of photoshop and wify needs
[03:03] <soundray> joerack: tip #1: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[03:03] <joerack> thank you
[03:04] <repp> Hi, is it possible to install a kernel suitable for audio production in ubuntu? With the current edgy kernel, jack gives a lot of xruns
[03:04] <soundray> phazeman: hope you manage to stick around this time.
[03:05] <finalbeta> mwe: yeah you can, I just found where to disable it. But since I can assume you can read. I'll assume you can find it your self.
[03:05] <phazeman> soundray: i hope the portable version of PS CS2 will work for me this time... otherwise - i will have to stick with the laptop
[03:05] <seshomaru> hi, can anyone tell me how do i find out which version of gaim i'm running? and which version of OO?
[03:05] <phazeman> seshomaru: dpkg -l | grep gaim
[03:05] <roovis> seshomaru: Help -> About
[03:05] <mwe> finalbeta: buthead
[03:05] <phazeman> seshomaru: dpkg -l | grep openoffice
[03:05] <zyth> seshomaru, look in help | about?
[03:06] <finalbeta> mwe: it's in the options o^O Chat - alerts
[03:07] <mwe> finalbeta: logical
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[03:08] <seshomaru> phazeman, zyth THANKS
[03:08] <_Luks> hey ppl
[03:08] <_Luks> how do i get a column ID from this gtk function: http://pastebin.ca/367635   ?
[03:10] <cmh0101> hey guys just want to know what Torrent Client you are running in linux? I recently switched from Windows.
[03:10] <soundray> !torrent
[03:10] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[03:10] <cmh0101> thank you
[03:10] <goban> is there a project to reverse engineer cocoa?
[03:10] <soundray> !seen gnomefreak
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen gnomefreak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <gnomefreak> huh?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> btw !seen is down i think
[03:11] <gnomefreak> use seenserv :)
[03:11] <soundray> Hi gnomefreak! Can you sort this guy out: Texa (n=Texa@ARouen-156-1-31-34.w90-8.abo.wanadoo.fr) (offensive leaving message)
[03:11] <soundray> please
[03:14] <IdleOne> I remember back in the day when I was op ( not in here ) most of my kick/ban reason were pretty much what texa quit msg is :/
[03:14] <oritemis> guys. to setup a domestic nat, should I use iptables?
[03:14] <soundray> oritemis: yes, definitely. Use something like firestarter to configure.
[03:14] <gnomefreak> thats odd
[03:15] <drag0n_> Hey, I'm trying to use inotify in a program here, but I'm using edgy and can't figure it out. There should be a /dev/inotify but it's not there? Do I need to patch the kernel?
[03:15] <oritemis> soundray, And to firewall?
[03:15] <soundray> !firestarter | oritemis
[03:15] <ubotu> oritemis: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:15] <bananenkuerbis> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/85689
[03:16] <soundray> bananenkuerbis: that's very exciting, but the wrong language
[03:17] <Lenaud01-Coding> !ftp
[03:17] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[03:18] <LazyAngel> hi! anyone knows what has happen to the listen music player repository?
[03:19] <lagrimo> does anyone knows a mobile phone channel?
[03:19] <IdleOne> LazyAngel, the listen music player repository?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> damn
[03:21] <LazyAngel> IdleOne:  deb http://theli.free.fr/packages/ dapper listen listen-unstable
[03:21] <oritemis> soundray, for setup a NAT, there are a too?
[03:21] <LazyAngel> IdleOne: it has been removed, and i cant find the replacement. if there are one
[03:22] <oritemis> soundray, or iptables can be used to do that too?
[03:22] <IdleOne> LazyAngel, dont know but I dont think thats an official ubuntu repo
[03:22] <IdleOne> later
[03:23] <LazyAngel> IdleOne: it isnt
[03:23] <kurumin> !list
[03:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:23] <LazyAngel> but i cant be the only one using listen? :S
[03:24] <LazyAngel> oh well... ill build my own package then
[03:24] <freezey> does anybody know where the perl executable on an Ubuntu system is?
[03:24] <LazyAngel> freezey: which perl
[03:24] <ardchoille> freezey: Type: which perl
[03:24] <LazyAngel> freezey: /usr/bin/perl
[03:25] <mwe_> freezey: /usr/bin like most other user binaries
[03:25] <kelsin> LazyAngel: .4.3 is in edgy and .5 is in fiesty, since the repository was removed from the listen website I'd assume it was just taken down. You can probably email the developer and ask why?
[03:25] <LazyAngel> freezey: or "/usr/bin/env perl"
[03:26] <LazyAngel> kelsin: yes, im thinking about it.
[03:30] <oritemis> soundray, I am getting a error starting firestarter. It says that eth0 isn't ready.
[03:32] <bauer77> is there anyone that can help me with an ATI install of a Radeon Mobility 9700
[03:33] <hellmet> Is there a bug in Intel 845G that disallows the display of either the messages or the splash?? I've tried it on two 845Gs
[03:34] <athlon> I am still using 6.06 and been thinking about upgrading to 6.10. Does anyone here who use 6.10 notice a performance increase when using evince to view graphic-heavy pdf docs ?
[03:36] <bauer77> I am having an issue with the ATI drivers I followed the ubuntuguide but I still get  mesa when I run fglrxinfo
[03:37] <blackest> bauer77 its the composite on which is the problem
[03:37] <blackest> turn composite off and it will load but then beryl doesnt work
[03:38] <bauer77> blackest: what do I need to do to resolve the issue?
[03:38] <chiefbearclaw> http://albertomilone.com/index.html < for installing the latest ati drivers under ubuntu edgy this worked great.
[03:38] <bauer77> you mean is xorg.conf
[03:38] <blackest> yep
[03:38] <bauer77> ok let me try that I thought I have done that but let me doublecheck
[03:38] <chiefbearclaw> I have a AGP 4x X1600 pro and ^ was the only thing that got it working
[03:38] <blackest> just need a section turning off the composite adding at the end
[03:38] <chiefbearclaw> I tried it all
[03:39] <blackest> chiefbearclaw did you get beryl working
[03:39] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me fixing dependency problems? I just did an upgrade from dapper to edgy
[03:40] <Zaggynl> output of an 'aptitude dist-upgrade -f' http://www.pastebin.ca/367671
[03:40] <chiefbearclaw> I haven't installed beryl yet
[03:40] <Lenaud01-Coding> can gftp connect multiple times like flashfxp?
[03:40] <chiefbearclaw> first things first lol
[03:41] <freezey> to run a perl script its... make thenfilename
[03:41] <freezey> right?
[03:41] <blackest> I have bad news then chiefbearclaw it wont work on ati
[03:42] <chiefbearclaw> heeh okay I'll keep that in mind
[03:42] <chiefbearclaw> :P
[03:42] <blackest> problem is that composite needs to be on but we both know the ati driver doesnt support it so you get the mesa driver loaded instead if you try it
[03:43] <BounC> Bonjour
[03:43] <CoRe> Hi
[03:43] <BounC> Je voudrais savoir si il y a des risques a l'instalation de ubuntu ?
[03:43] <apokryphos> !fr
[03:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:45] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Any linux/ubuntu-wizards online... need help with a troublesome package that wont install properly OR let itself be removed afterwards!
[03:46] <tomix> anyone help me here. I followed the tutorial for transfering files from desktop to mobile via bluetooth; http://news.softpedia.com/news/Transfer-Files-With-Bluetooth-on-Ubuntu-47565.shtml   but when I create the launcher with the command gnome-obex-send %s it comes back with the error "Unable to read file 's'" Im guessing there is something a miss with command?
[03:47] <Lunar_Lamp> tomix, I *think* you might need to use "%s" not %s
[03:47] <hjmills> is there a 64bit channel or is it all bundled in here?
[03:48] <tomix> Lunar_Lamp: will give that a go
[03:49] <tomix> Lunar_Lamp: now i get unable to connect to device
[03:50] <Lunar_Lamp> tomix, have you turned on bluetooth on the phone etc?
[03:50] <tomix> yar sure have
[03:50] <hjmills> darn - fiesty sure aint stable yet...
[03:50] <bbnec> hi, could anyone help me with a networking problem?
[03:50] <cappiz_> if i modify my menu.lst file in grubl, do i need to update something?
[03:50] <hjmills> any news on a 64bit ubuntu irc channel?
[03:50] <Lunar_Lamp> tomix, sorry then, I really know nothing about bluetooth :-/
[03:50] <hjmills> !amd4
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amd4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <hjmills> !amd64
[03:50] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[03:50] <redmonkey> since when is linux stable at all?;)
[03:50] <tomix> Lunar_Lamp: just re connecting to make sure
[03:50] <LazyAngel> UbuntuN00B_HBG: what package? and what errormessage do you get?
[03:51] <LazyAngel> hjmills: dont think there is a separate 64-bit one
[03:51] <cappiz_> anyone?
[03:51] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: package: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic
[03:51] <Lunar_Lamp> cappiz, no.
[03:51] <LazyAngel> cappiz: no
[03:51] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: wish that i DID get any error messages... but...
[03:52] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: when installing apt-get stops at "Configuring linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic"
[03:52] <cappiz_> ok. strange :P
[03:52] <hjmills> LazyAngel, oh ok thanks - it may be an idea to prevent over crowding in here
[03:52] <Pici> UbuntuN00B_HBG: What do you mean by it 'stops'?
[03:52] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: when trying to apt-get remove it, it freezes at "Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic"
[03:52] <LazyAngel> UbuntuN00B_HBG: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic
[03:52] <rodrigo> hello
[03:53] <jacked> is there a way to add non-US locations to the weather calendar in evolution 2.8? (Edgy)
[03:53] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Pici: it just freezez... and cpu goes to 0%
[03:53] <Pici> hm
[03:53] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: done that, but the installation just freezes when reaching "Configuring linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic"
[03:53] <LazyAngel> hjmills: i gave up 64 bit linux a year ago :) too much hazzle
[03:53] <Eamod24> anyone know where i can get my hands on a updated supernodes list for ARES?
[03:54] <LazyAngel> UbuntuN00B_HBG: whats the output of uname -a ?
[03:54] <apokryphos> oxygen: /msg ubotu member
[03:54] <hjmills> LazyAngel, im trying it now in the hope that vista (with 64bit support) will help drag the proprietary stuff up to 64bit for us all
[03:54] <Zaggynl> argl
[03:54] <Zaggynl> @%!)97ing dependency problems
[03:54] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: how do i do that?
[03:55] <Zaggynl> !dependency
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dependency - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <LazyAngel> UbuntuN00B_HBG: write "uname -a" in the console
[03:55] <soundray> oritemis: still here?
[03:55] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: "Linux mathias 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux"
[03:56] <LazyAngel> hjmills: well... i read something about the flash. Its not just to compile it for 64 bit. You have to change alot of code as well. And most programs depends on libraries that is only made in 32 bit. so it might take a while
[03:56] <oritemis> soundray, yes, sure.
[03:57] <soundray> oritemis: sorry, I was on the phone. Have you fixed firestarter?
[03:57] <oritemis> soundray, the problems remain.
[03:57] <oritemis> soundray, no problem. I appreciate your help.
[03:57] <bauer77> blackest:  I am still having the same issue even with the composite disabled in xorg.conf
[03:57] <LazyAngel> UbuntuN00B_HBG: then you might try some force. "man apt-get"
[03:57] <jacked> is there a way to add non-US locations to the weather calendar in evolution 2.8? (Edgy)
[03:57] <oritemis> soundray, it says that eth0 isn't ready...
[03:57] <LazyAngel> UbuntuN00B_HBG: but i wont be able to help you. i have to go. good luck
[03:57] <soundray> oritemis: are you on edgy?
[03:57] <oritemis> soundray, yes.
[03:58] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> LazyAngel: ok... thanks... (well... tried it with -f, didnt help)
[03:58] <xtknight> jacked: i'm not sure about evolution but the gnome weather applet is international, at least
[03:58] <oritemis> soundray, I believe it has no ip. may be this the problem?
[03:58] <Zaggynl> I'm stuck at this package called 'libswt3.1-gtk-gcj', I keep getting it back in error messages
[03:59] <soundray> oritemis: is that machine connected to the internet?
[03:59] <oritemis> soundray, is this machine. And it is connect through ppp0
[03:59] <jacked> xtknight: I'm aware of that, thanks.  the evolution configuration file shows that it uses a US gov site for weather forecasting...  this seems to go against the gnome philosophy of internationalization
[04:00] <LasseL> Zaggynl, azureus?
[04:00] <k31th> What is that graphic application like gimp ink some thing iirc?
[04:00] <rb007> I have a really slow connection on Firefox (Dapper).  I read on this thread that it might be a DNS problem (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289088&page=2).  How do I find out the right DNS to enter?  Currently it says 192.168.1.254.  Any ideas why my connection is so slow?  It's also slow when pinging (94ms).
[04:00] <k31th> rb007: pinging what
[04:01] <rb007> k31th: any site
[04:01] <soundray> oritemis: in that case, you should open firestarter preferences and set ppp0 as the "Internet connected network device"
[04:01] <phazeman> rhkfin: i think your dns name should be set automaticaly by the dhcp, but if you are using static ip you should set it manualy.
[04:01] <k31th> 94ms is not that bad depends where the site is.
[04:01] <rb007> k31th: http://www.inkscape.org
[04:01] <k31th> 254 is your router?
[04:01] <kmaynard> rb007, www.opendns.com  may help speed things up a bit
[04:01] <phazeman> oops that was for rb007 ^^
[04:01] <phazeman> rb007: i think your dns name should be set automaticaly by the dhcp, but if you are using static ip you should set it manualy.
[04:01] <rb007> k31th: I think so
[04:02] <soundray> oritemis: on the local network device, you should probably configure a static address. Likewise on the other device that you are connecting to your ubuntu machine.
[04:02] <rb007> phazeman: why could it be so slow?
[04:02] <PecisDarbs> people, how to recover from such dpkg error which arrived after faulty deb package install:  I wasn't able to locate file for the nginx package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. Nothing works, no remove, no force install/remove, no apt-get, aptitude, etc.
[04:02] <Nalleman> hi there, im trying to change the icon theme for firefox, in order to do that I want to convert a png file to xpm. Have some problem with that. anyone know how to to that?
[04:02] <phazeman> rb007: 97ms is not slow at all
[04:03] <kmaynard> PecisDarbs, you tried  apt-get install -f  yet?
[04:03] <rb007> The computer is not slow in any of the Windows computers on the network -- Sometimes my Ubuntu gets slow like this
[04:03] <oritemis> soundray, it is already. I beliebe eth0 haven't an IP assigned.
[04:03] <PecisDarbs> kmaynard: yep
[04:03] <rb007> painfully slow
[04:03] <phazeman> it's kinda fast if you are talking about internet site that is not located in your home lan
[04:03] <LasseL> rb007, try installing dnsmasq, it can't hurt: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing/
[04:03] <mwe_> PecisDarbs: you can edit the cache by hand after creating a backup to remove all traces of the package
[04:03] <soundray> oritemis: assign it via System-Administration-Networking
[04:03] <kmaynard> rb007, set your DNS to openDNS's servers, see what happens
[04:03] <phazeman> rb007: try to traceroute it (tracert)
[04:03] <rb007> phazeman: I thought I was getting much faster last night at home
[04:03] <xtknight> jacked: probably NOAA, right? (for the gov site)
[04:03] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me fixing a couple of broken packages? I'm kinda stuck :(
[04:03] <xtknight> jacked: i thought they had international forecast too but im not sure
[04:03] <phazeman> rb007: see if the routing is right
[04:03] <PecisDarbs> mwe_: where is cache located exactly?
[04:04] <rb007> kmaynard: opendns?
[04:04] <LasseL> Zaggynl, is it azureus?
[04:04] <rb007> phazeman: how do I check that?
[04:04] <Zaggynl> LasseL, nope
[04:04] <Cave> anyone know how I change the language for OpenOffice - for the application?
[04:04] <kmaynard> rb007, www.opendns.com
[04:04] <tomix> what does everyone use here for managing their mobile? Gnokii, opensync?
[04:04] <phazeman> rb007: tracert [some inet addy ere] 
[04:05] <mwe_> PecisDarbs: /var/lib/dpkg/status. edit that file with sudo nano after creating a backup of it. locate the entry (10-20 lines) and remove them
[04:05] <mwe_> PecisDarbs: restore the backup if it breaks things
[04:05] <phazeman> rb007: are you using dhcp with your router ?
[04:05] <Zaggynl> the broken packages are: eclipse-pydev-gcj, libgtk-java, libswt3.1-gtk-gcj,libswt3.1-gtk-ini,gij-4.1,libgcj-bc, I can't do anything with them, purge, remove, upgrade, reinstall
[04:05] <mwe_> PecisDarbs: it shouldn't, though, if you do it right.
[04:05] <phazeman> ack... have to go.. boss calling. sorry rb007 .. i will be back shortly...
[04:05] <soundray> oritemis: use 192.168.1.1 for ubuntu and 192.168.1.2 for the other machine (192.168.x.x is the private address range recommended for home LANs)
[04:05] <rb007> ok thanks
[04:06] <PecisDarbs> mwe_: thanks :)
[04:06] <Zaggynl> Keep getting 'E: libswt3.1-gtk-gcj: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127'
[04:06] <mwe_> PecisDarbs: it will leave the files it installed, though, so you have to remove those by hand
[04:06] <oritemis> soundray, the error changed. it says about a "unkown error" now. lol
[04:06] <soundray> Guys, I'm looking for a one-pass way to rename all .ogg files in a directory based on the id3 tags. What would you recommend?
[04:06] <LasseL> Zaggynl, I'm no expert there, sorry. Have you tried the same commands with --force ?
[04:06] <PecisDarbs> mwe_: sure thing
[04:06] <Zaggynl> ill try
[04:07] <xtknight> Zaggynl: sorry, haven't been following.  having issues removing a package?
[04:07] <oritemis> soundray, but anyway it started the firewall.
[04:07] <soundray> oritemis: close firestarter until you've configured your LAN properly
[04:07] <Zaggynl> xtknight, yep
[04:07] <Zaggynl> trying to do an upgrade from dapper->edgy
[04:07] <nnliu> hi is anyone here familiar with g15daemon?
[04:08] <Eamod24> anyone know where i can get my hands on a updated supernodes list for ARES?
[04:08] <jacked> xtknight: exactly.  I haven't been able to find the international forecasts
[04:08] <xtknight> Zaggynl: actually you could do what mwe_ suggested PecisDarbs do a few lines up.  as in, remove the package from status if you've tried dpkg --purge --force and it still fails
[04:08] <old_cymuHep> !xml
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xml - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <xtknight> Zaggynl: i believe it's `sudo dpkg --force-all --purge pkgname` actually
[04:08] <bauer77> can anyone assist me I am trying to get the AT drivers installed but when I run fxlgrinfo it still shows mesa, and I have disabled composite in xorg.conf
[04:08] <Zaggynl> xtknight, okay
[04:08] <soundray> xtknight: wouldn't it be better to edit the postrm script and force a success?
[04:09] <xtknight> soundray: not too sure how to do that.  more trouble , i'm not sure it would make a diff as long as he didn't screw up his "status" edit ;P
[04:09] <rb007> thanks... opendns worked.
[04:10] <soundray> xtknight: status editing always worries me. Maybe I'm paranoid
[04:10] <CPUnerd> anyone knows the default root password for vmplayer images by any chance ?
[04:10] <xtknight> soundray:  it would scare me too but i've done it before
[04:10] <Zaggynl> xtknight, I get the exact same error back on the command line
[04:10] <kmaynard> rb007, sweet
[04:10] <kula> Hi! I'm trying to run a game-server (Farcry), and I get this non-specific-for-FarCry error: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.1' not found
[04:10] <Zaggynl> subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[04:10] <kmaynard> rb007, did you set it up on your router or on your system?
[04:11] <kula> Does anyone here know what this means? I have gcc-3.4 installed, and I'm thinking it has something to do with that.
[04:11] <mwe> sometimes you don't have any other option than to edit the status file by hand
[04:11] <kmaynard> kula, tried google?
[04:11] <soundray> Zaggynl: you might want to open /var/lib/dpkg/info/libswt3.1-gtk-gcj.postrm and check why it fails
[04:12] <kula> Yes, I have.
[04:12] <xtknight> Zaggynl: `gksu gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status`.  be careful, i recommend backing the file up before doing that cmd.  but once you're in the file search for "Package: libasdasd" or whatever it was
[04:12] <kula> Found out that other applications also get this error..
[04:12] <xtknight> Zaggynl: then just remove that Package: block until you see another 'Package:' line.  stop there.
[04:12] <Zaggynl> I have no problem screwing up the dapper install, I have a backup :)
[04:12] <xtknight> Zaggynl: and try soundray's suggestion first
[04:12] <oritemis> soundray, dhcp server isn't working...
[04:13] <soundray> oritemis: you don't need it if you configure static IP addresses like I suggested
[04:13] <mwe> xtknight: I told him. or he will risk loosing all package information if he screws it up ;)
[04:13] <oritemis> soundray, i will try assign directly the ip on the other machine.
[04:13] <Nalleman> Trying to change the icon theme for firefox, in order to do that I want to convert a png file to xpm. Have some problem with this. anyone know how to to it?
[04:13] <soundray> oritemis: okay, but you have to tell firestarter not to start dhcpd
[04:15] <soundray> How can I rename music files based on ID3 tag contents?
[04:15] <oritemis> soundray, Ok I will not.
[04:16] <soundray> oritemis: have you seen the tickbox in Preferences?
[04:17] <nnliu> hi is anyone here familiar with g15daemon?
[04:17] <Zaggynl> ugh
[04:17] <Zaggynl> I'm going to put back the backup and do the updating over again
[04:17] <tomix> I definetly have a connection with the phone but am getting back 'unable to read file s' when i create launcher with the command "gnome-obex-send %s"
[04:17] <tomix> does anyone know if there is something wrong with the syntax of that command?
[04:18] <monzie> how do i find out which package provides a particular binary?
[04:19] <oritemis> soundray, yes sure. I already setup IPs and both machines, disabled dhcp server. But internet isn't working on the other machine.
[04:19] <xtknight> monzie: dpkg -S /path/to/binary
[04:19] <NevroPus> is there any programs in the ubuntu package manager named convert? So i can convert .jpg files to .eps? I cant find it when I search. Maybe I need to add a rep?
[04:19] <monzie> xtknight: thank you so much
[04:20] <soundray> NevroPus: convert is part of imagemagick
[04:20] <NevroPus> tnx
[04:21] <soundray> oritemis: you will have to manually set up DNS on the other machine
[04:21] <bauer77> can I get a round of applause for myself I finally fixed my ATI issue...
[04:21] <oritemis> soundray, already done.
[04:21] <peterspan> i am somewhat new to linux, trying to set up my linksys WMP54g v2 wireless pci card, can anyone tell me where to start? i've read several guides that assume too much and get me nowhere
[04:21] <bauer77> soundray: thanks
[04:22] <soundray> oritemis: you also have to tell the other machine the IP of the routing machine as the gateway
[04:22] <bauer77> the issue was it kept finding the mesa driver and not the fglrx, i used the rmmod command and it worked
[04:23] <bauer77> I assumed its because I did not reboot
[04:23] <soundray> oritemis: can you ping the ubuntu machine from the other one?
[04:23] <oritemis> soundray, on the other machine, I can ping a internet IP. I believe it is a DNS problem. Since it is a Windows box, I am restarting it.
[04:24] <oritemis> soundray, yes, the ubuntu machine and a outside IP adress.
[04:24] <soundray> oritemis: okay, so it must be the DNS setup. Make sure you can ping the DNS address you've configured.
[04:26] <oritemis> soundray, yes, I can ping the DNS servers. Now I am a little bit confused.
[04:28] <soundray> oritemis: you can ping the DNS servers from Windows?
[04:28] <oritemis> the firewall may be blocking it?
[04:28] <oritemis> soundray, yes, I can.
[04:28] <soundray> oritemis: try telnet www.heise.de 80
[04:29] <soundray> oritemis: oops, I'm not sure if you can telnet a specific port like that on Windows
[04:30] <Tatta> Hello, im trying to install Rt2500 (wlan card) however I got problems getting the linux headers, when doing sudo apt-get linux-headers-$(uname -r) it returns E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386. Any idea how to get the headers? :S
[04:30] <black_> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr
[04:31] <Chocobo> I have a friend that is trying to connect his ubuntu laptop to a network printer.  I (on Arch linux) use the cups web interface and enter in the URI:  socket://hostname:9100   how do I get my friend to do the same thing with the Ubuntu gui?
[04:31] <ruvia99> ola
[04:32] <Chocobo> No ideas?
[04:33] <soundray> Chocobo: System-Administration-Printing
[04:34] <ruvia99> ola
[04:34] <mixandgo> hello, any idea why I get this : iptables v1.2.11: can't initialize iptables table `NAT': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?) Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
[04:34] <soundray> Chocobo: the cups web interface is on port 631 by default, but I'm not sure if it's configured by default to let you make changes
[04:35] <JONES3700> still stuck on 800x600 res and a wacky screen refresh rate after installing nvidia drivers, any help?
[04:35] <Tatta> restarted gnome?
[04:35] <JONES3700> yep
[04:35] <Chocobo> soundray, ahh, ok... so maybe I need to modify the config to allow the web based configuration?
[04:35] <JONES3700> played with the xorg.conf too
[04:35] <Tatta> have u tried editing the resolution even? :P
[04:35] <JONES3700> yeah
[04:35] <soundray> Chocobo: possibly. But I recommend the way via the gnome interface
[04:35] <AMorozov> Hi!
[04:35] <ardchoille> JONES3700: Did you do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:36] <AMorozov> Can anybody tell if totem ( 2.16.2-0ubuntu1, on xine engine) really supports playing VCD?
[04:37] <JONES3700> yeah I tried that too
[04:37] <Chocobo> soundray, I don
[04:37] <AMorozov> 1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3.2
[04:37] <AMorozov> I mean, libxine_1.1.2+repacked1-0ubuntu3.2
[04:38] <Chocobo> soundray, I dont know what selections to make to enter the socket://hostname:9100 URI.   I would assume I select Network Printer, or HP JetDirect.
[04:39] <athlon> I have kubuntu 6.06 with gnome-desktop installed. If I wanted to upgrade must I use kubuntu dvd or can I use ubuntu ?
[04:39] <soundray> Chocobo: if you select Unix Printer (LPD), you just have to give it the printer's hostname and the queue name
[04:40] <Chocobo> soundray, what is an example que name?
[04:40] <soundray> Chocobo: pr1
[04:40] <Chocobo> ok.  I will give it a shor.
[04:40] <Chocobo> shot.
[04:40] <soundray> athlon: best not to use a CD/DVD at all, but do a net upgrade
[04:41] <soundray> !upgrade | athlon
[04:41] <ubotu> athlon: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:41] <guzu> hello all
[04:41] <MarcN> Any recommendations for a simple IRCd? I'm going to an event and want to setup a standalone server.
[04:42] <guzu> here's a pic that looks familiar: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/clipart/default.aspx
[04:42] <soundray> Chocobo: I like the way you ask for help. It's so much easier to support people who think for themselves ;)
[04:42] <kmaynard> ha
[04:42] <Tatta> ah anyone remember monitor mode command by hand?
[04:43] <Nalleman> Trying to change the icon theme for firefox, in order to do that I want to convert a png file to xpm. Have some problem with this. anyone know how to to it?
[04:44] <Chocobo> I don't know if that was sarcastice or not, but I have tried many many different things to get this printer working.   It is just that I understand the cups web interface and not the gui that is supplied with an unfamiliar distrobution.   Anyways, thanks for the help.
[04:44] <soundray> Nalleman: what problem is that?
[04:44] <soundray> Chocobo: no, I was dead serious
[04:44] <Nalleman> soundray, when i try to save it in gimp it dont work
[04:44] <soundray> Chocobo: lots of people come here and ask to be spoonfed.
[04:45] <kmaynard> linux printing is a strange and difficult beast
[04:45] <AMorozov> Does anybody use totem here? :-)
[04:45] <Chocobo> Ahh. sorry.  I saw the ;)  and took that as sarcasm.  you know IRC is full fo that :)  I am sorry soundray.
[04:45] <soundray> Nalleman: give me a bit of detail on "dont work"
[04:45] <AMorozov> kmaynard: oh, really? :-)
[04:45] <Pici> !anyone
[04:45] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:45] <kmaynard> AMorozov, ya rly ;)
[04:45] <Nalleman> soundray, hold on
[04:47] <EricJ> quick question - is it yet possible to dist-upgrade from edgy to feisty herd4?
[04:47] <AMorozov> last time I made a clear linux installation, I even didn't configure the net printer at all. It was detected automatically, and all required configurations were done without a single bit of interaction.
[04:47] <soundray> EricJ: you can try, but if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces
[04:48] <swilliamson> can someone give me a hand with my xorg.conf I have a dell laptop on a docking station
[04:48] <soundray> EricJ: seriously, wait until the release unless you want to help in testing.
[04:48] <AMorozov> Still don't know how the printer announces itself in the net indeed :-)
[04:48] <Nalleman> soundray, wierd. now it worked without problem
[04:48] <soundray> Nalleman: glad I could help :)
[04:49] <EricJ> soundray: I'm running edgy on gf's machine, and it's far too buggy for her to feel comfortable
[04:49] <Nalleman> soundray,  ;)
[04:49] <athlon> soundray,  thing is, I dont have internet connection at home
[04:49] <EricJ> she's thinking of switching to windows - I need to do something drastic :(
[04:49] <soundray> EricJ: what you don't want in this situation is to upgrade to an alpha version of the distribution
[04:49] <soundray> EricJ: what do you mean by buggy
[04:49] <soundray> Oh, doorbell...
[04:50] <AMorozov> EricJ: bring a couple of evil viruses :-)
[04:50] <EricJ> soundray: well.. she encounters a bug about every day or so
[04:50] <EricJ> never seen anything like it
[04:50] <AMorozov> EricJ: she should got a QA position at Canonical :-)
[04:51] <EricJ> soundray: just a few minutes ago, firefox didn't opened her php-files properly
[04:51] <EricJ> for example
[04:51] <mister> hi
[04:51] <AMorozov> EricJ: how does FF do it exactly?
[04:51] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Anyone here who can help me with my screwed up apt-get???
[04:52] <dmb062082> hey
[04:52] <zoli2k> UbuntuN00B_HBG: try to specify the problem :)
[04:52] <AMorozov> UbuntuN00B_HBG: depends on how you've screwed itup.
[04:52] <EricJ> AMorozov: it asks her what to do with the file (open, save etc) and she chooses open - then it opens up a new, blank tab
[04:52] <soundray> EricJ: I bet your gf will break Windows at least as often
[04:53] <soundray> EricJ: sounds like a misconfigured apache to me
[04:53] <dmb062082> if i wanted to back up ubuntu data so if i had to do a fresh install what folders should i back up to copy over after fresh install... /usr /home and what else?
[04:53] <AMorozov> EricJ: where the files actually reside?
[04:53] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: well... whatever i try to install / remove, apt-get finds a package named "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic" that it wants to remove (and it should)... the problem is...
[04:53] <EricJ> AMorozov: in her home folder
[04:53] <dmb062082> to keep everything intact
[04:53] <EricJ> soundray: is apache even installed per default on ubuntu?
[04:53] <Pici> EricJ: No.
[04:54] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: that if i tell it to remove it it just freezes at "Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ..." and nothing more happends!
[04:54] <AMorozov> EricJ: probably they should be opened as text files... At least, I think so :-)
[04:54] <soundray> EricJ: oh, you're loading .php files via the file: protocol? Well, what do you expect to happen?
[04:54] <AMorozov> I didn't try though.
[04:55] <EricJ> soundray: I expect her to open a php-file and see its contents in firefox
[04:55] <EricJ> w/ html and all
[04:55] <EricJ> i'm not expecting it to parse the php code since apache isn't installed - it don't need to be
[04:55] <AMorozov> EricJ: reasonably.
[04:55] <EricJ> i'm fine with her viewing the php code islands
[04:56] <zoli2k> UbuntuN00B_HBG: did you try by dpkg?
[04:56] <soundray> EricJ: so firefox falls short of her expectations as a php source viewer?
[04:56] <zoli2k> UbuntuN00B_HBG: dpkg --remove <package_name>
[04:56] <exs> Guys, I really need some help. I was bought a domain along time ago, it had email too.. Well, it's all been fairly ok up until now where I was no longer able to receive email. I've removed a lot of junk from my inbox and I'm desperately trying to get it to receive emails. Is there any way I am able to 'forward' emails to another location, or just to fix it?
[04:56] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: dpkg --configure -a / apt-get clean/purge/remove
[04:56] <leal> alguem aqui fala portugues
[04:57] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: tried dpkg --remove too... same thing!
[04:57] <EricJ> soundray: more as a webpage-previewer I guess, but..
[04:57] <zoli2k> UbuntuN00B_HBG: With force?
[04:57] <EricJ> .. I suppose installing apache would solve the problem.. I think.
[04:57] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: with -f and -m
[04:57] <EricJ> hmm.. I need to give this some thought
[04:58] <AMorozov> EricJ: Ahhh, got the idea.
[04:59] <AMorozov> FF asks to open this file in a text editor, if opens a php file from a local disk.
[04:59] <soundray> I'm looking for a program that will rename a number of .ogg files based on their ID3 tags. Can you help?
[04:59] <vivh349> do you know when i can find libiberty ???
[04:59] <Pici> EricJ: FF is not a source code viewer, change the default application for php files to something like gedit
[04:59] <zoli2k> UbuntuN00B_HBG: dpkg with --force-all ???
[05:00] <tfh> soundray: exfalso
[05:00] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: sudo dpkg --remove --force-all linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ?
[05:00] <zoli2k> yes
[05:00] <AMorozov> So you either don't have a text/* handler configured, or it's broken somehow.
[05:00] <royel> exs: often you can get your domain registrar to redirect your MX records to another IP, I would check with them
[05:01] <exs> royel:  thanks
[05:01] <soundray> tfh: thanks, looking good -- do you use it?
[05:01] <tomek_> hej
[05:02] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: ok... it has reached "Removing linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-generic ...", keep your fingers crossed... but it seems to have frozen again... CPU 0%
[05:02] <vivh349> sorry...
[05:03] <vivh349> do you know when i can find the librairy "libiberty" ???
[05:03] <zoli2k> UbuntuN00B_HBG: How did you reach this state of package system?
[05:03] <Zaggynl> !update
[05:03] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:04] <soundray> vivh349: I think you're looking for binutils-dev
[05:04] <soundray> !info binutils-dev | vivh349
[05:04] <ubotu> vivh349: binutils-dev: The GNU binary utilities (BFD development files). In component main, is extra. Version 2.17-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2396 kB, installed size 6184 kB
[05:04] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> zoli2k: i think it was when i ran the autoinstaller from ati for my x800xt-card... it just frose at its last state... since then its like this...
[05:04] <vivh349> do you speak french ?
[05:04] <royel> !fr | vivh349
[05:05] <ubotu> vivh349: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:05] <mwe> I have two files with lines that are mostly identical. Can I somehow extract the few lines that are only present in one of the files?
[05:05] <Zaggynl> Okay, I restored my backup
[05:05] <mwe> diff maybe?
[05:05] <vivh349> i cant go on #ubuntu fr, i dont know why...
[05:05] <Zaggynl> I tried the command 'gksu "updatemanager -c", I enter my password,...nothing happens
[05:05] <royel> vivh349: /join #ubuntu-fr
[05:05] <vivh349> in binutils-dev, see you ??
[05:05] <soundray> mwe: yes, diff and grep for ^\> or ^\<
[05:05] <Zaggynl> nvm, forgot a dash ><
[05:06] <mimilus> vivh349, I'm french
[05:06] <mwe> soundray: thanks
[05:06] <Nalleman> now I have converted the icons in /usr/share/firefox/icons but firefox still uses the old icons. Why?
[05:06] <Bnirkow> hello
[05:06] <soundray> Nalleman: have you restarted firefox?
[05:07] <soundray> vivh349: 'sudo apt-get install binutils-dev'
[05:07] <Nalleman> soundray, yes
[05:07] <Nalleman> and X
[05:07] <vivh349> its good its go
[05:07] <Pici> Nalleman: What icons are you trying to replace?
[05:07] <Nalleman> all the default icons
[05:07] <cfedde> Is it firefox that has some kind of IP-Name address cache? is there some way to flush that?
[05:08] <Bnirkow> i`m on feisty and i have problem with installation of beryl... when i start beryl-manager from terminal i see: " Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" "  how to fix it??
[05:08] <moginspace> i just installed my first ubuntu (edgy) ! yeah for me anyway...
[05:08] <soundray> Nalleman: you may have to replace them in /usr/share/firefox/chrome/icons/default/ as well
[05:08] <Pici> Nalleman: You mean like the FF theme icons? the document icons? The application icon in gnome/kde?
[05:08] <moginspace> nautilus seems to think i have two floppy drives, and I'm pretty sure I only got one
[05:09] <Nalleman> Pici,  the FF theme icon i guess
[05:09] <vivh349> thank you, its that !
[05:09] <Nalleman> soundray, tryin that out now...
[05:09] <soundray> moginspace: it's possible that your BIOS reports two drives. Disable one of them in the BIOS setup
[05:09] <idefix_> what is the matter with hotmail? am I the only one who sees mail at the hotmail server without pictures?
[05:10] <moginspace> we'll give it a whirl  @
[05:12] <Nalleman> soundray, thank you. it worked!
[05:12] <soundray> Nalleman: glad I could *really* help this time :)
[05:13] <Nalleman> Now im trying the same for thunderbird... bbl :)
[05:13] <soundray> Nalleman: but I wonder why firefox maintains two locations for those pixmaps
[05:13] <Nalleman> yes. its wierd
[05:14] <soundray> Nalleman: I worked this out by using 'locate default.xpm'. This will probably help with T-Bird as well
[05:14] <Nalleman> soundray, :) thanx
[05:16] <Corvus> join #ubuntu-fr
[05:16] <schteff> hi
[05:17] <sylpheedClaws> hi
[05:17] <tmorenom> soy un desconocido, que esta pasando unos momentos muy dificiles
[05:17] <schteff> i've a problem
[05:17] <sylpheedClaws> so does everyone
[05:17] <Parmenides> question: I have dependency issues on an install, it is looking for older versions, I know I need to uncomment some lines in a config file.... but can't remember what one
[05:17] <sylpheedClaws> what is it
[05:17] <Corvus> join #ubuntu-fr
[05:18] <schteff> i want to install ubuntu
[05:18] <Pici> Corvus: its /join #ubuntu-fr
[05:18] <soundray> Parmenides: probably /etc/apt/sources.list -- also have a look at the bot's recommendation:
[05:18] <soundray> !repos | Parmenides
[05:18] <ubotu> Parmenides: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:18] <Pici> !es | tmorenom
[05:18] <ubotu> tmorenom: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:18] <schteff> but there's a problem he can't find a hard drive
[05:18] <tmorenom> solo necesito el saber de los medicos para salvar a una persona allegada, un padre nuestro no es valido
[05:19] <schteff> maybe it's a raid problem :( or sth
[05:19] <soundray> schteff: is this your first ubuntu installation? If so, I'd suggest you get started with a non-RAID setup
[05:19] <bXi> how can i redirect all sound on the line-in to my line-out
[05:20] <schteff> ye, i dont want to install raid or sth. like this i just want to install ubuntu... raid or not i dont care
[05:20] <Pici> !es > tmorenom
[05:20] <tmorenom> un saludo a tdoas y a todos
[05:20] <soundray> !es | tmorenom
[05:20] <flat_out_lizard> exit
[05:20] <ubotu> tmorenom: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:21] <flat_out_lizard> q
[05:21] <flat_out_lizard> quit
[05:22] <Pici> I think he said he left
[05:22] <schteff>  I'm back in 5 min.  and then i hope sb. helps me :)
[05:22] <AMorozov> bye
[05:23] <mariano> soundray: from the looks of it and the sense of what he was saying, it's a rather bad attempt at a spanish speaking bot
[05:24] <method|> what can i use to access microsoft visio files in linux?
[05:24] <sylpheedClaws> Dia
[05:24] <sylpheedClaws> method|: Dia is the equivalent program
[05:24] <method|> thank u
[05:24] <sylpheedClaws> I think it can be installed with Automatix
[05:24] <sylpheedClaws> !automatix | method|
[05:24] <ubotu> method|: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:25] <Pici> Read !automatix please sylpheedClaws
[05:25] <method|> i dont use automatix
[05:25] <method|> :/
[05:25] <ardchoille> sylpheedClaws: Dia? dia can be installed with: sudo apt-get install dia
[05:25] <zyth> I do
[05:25] <zyth> works fine for me
[05:25] <zyth> ymmv.
[05:25] <ghata1> What is the purpose of lost+found folder ?
[05:25] <soundray> mariano: thanks.
[05:25] <sylpheedClaws> ...that entry needs an update... desperately...
[05:25] <Pici> ghata1: Its wehere all my lost socks go
[05:26] <sylpheedClaws> AX is used so widely, there are forks of Ubuntu that come with it built-in
[05:26] <mariano> ghata1: for filesystem maintainence
[05:26] <ghata1> Pici: you need to get a girl friend
[05:26] <yell0w> heh Pici
[05:26] <ardchoille> Pici: So _that's_ where they went, lol
[05:26] <idefix_> how can you tell if your DVDrom-controller is broken?
[05:26] <mariano> when your disk dies, you'll find useful stuff there
[05:26] <ghata1> mariano: right, so no need to touch it
[05:26] <Pici> sylpheedClaws: Not official forks
[05:26] <mariano> ghata1: nope
[05:26] <skelter> hey - can anyone tell me a command line to mount my usb flash driv?
[05:26] <sylpheedClaws> Pioneer?
[05:26] <skelter> +e
[05:27] <Yaseax> !worksforme
[05:27] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:27] <soundray> skelter: 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt' (substitute /dev/sda1 with your real device name)
[05:27] <skelter> sda1 is a sata hard dist for me
[05:27] <skelter> so i don't know which one it would be
[05:27] <dmb062082> how does apache run in ubuntu?
[05:28] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> sudo apt-get remove ubotu
[05:28] <ubuntu_> skelter: Try looking at the end of the output of "dmesg".
[05:28] <soundray> skelter: it's probably one of /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdc1, /dev/sdd1...
[05:28] <Pici> skelter: Run dmesg right after you put your flash drive in and see what device it reports
[05:28] <skelter>  ehci_hcd looks ok?
[05:28] <space_ninja> why do ubunut have gnome as the desktop maanger_
[05:28] <space_ninja> their
[05:28] <skelter> [643639.054686]  usb 1-9: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[05:28] <ardchoille> space_ninja: You'll have to ask the devs.
[05:28] <skelter> the last line from that
[05:29] <sylpheedClaws> space_ninja: if you don't like it...
[05:29] <idefix_> defrysk?
[05:29] <sylpheedClaws> !kubuntu | space_ninja
[05:29] <ubotu> space_ninja: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[05:29] <Parmenides> space_ninja: you can always use Kubuntu for kde
[05:29] <sylpheedClaws> or...
[05:29] <sylpheedClaws> !xubuntu | space_ninja
[05:29] <ubotu> space_ninja: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[05:29] <soundray> Parmenides: were you able to use the information?
[05:29] <idefix_> is ubuntu/linux fundamentally different from good old DOS?
[05:30] <sylpheedClaws> there's a *buntu for most desktops
[05:30] <exs> does anyone use 'plesk' ?.. if so, where do I access the control panel?.. for example, a domain such as www.phones.com, would plesk be in plesk.phones.com ?
[05:30] <space_ninja> ok
[05:30] <sylpheedClaws> idefix_: clearly
[05:30] <soundray> idefix_: only in minor ways ;)
[05:30] <sylpheedClaws> minor things, like X and GNOME
[05:30] <Parmenides> soundray: it is the right file, but I have to change permissions before I can edit it
[05:30] <sylpheedClaws> ;)
[05:30] <space_ninja> but what's the difference between ubuntu and debian?
[05:30] <sylpheedClaws> packaging
[05:30] <soundray> idefix_: like humans from monkeys
[05:30] <sylpheedClaws> Automatix
[05:30] <sylpheedClaws> lots of differences
[05:30] <Pici> idefix_: DOS is a completely different operating system than Linux
[05:30] <sylpheedClaws> also, Ubuntu's a ton frendlier
[05:31] <sylpheedClaws> IMO
[05:31] <squirrelpimp> flashplayer-nonfree's update-script is broken?
[05:31] <soundray> Parmenides: try 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[05:31] <squirrelpimp> can one confirm that?
[05:31] <mindstate> i like dos :)
[05:31] <idefix_> than am I stupid to switch to linux after using DOS as a child?
[05:31] <idefix_> then*
[05:31] <sylpheedClaws> nope
[05:31] <soundray> idefix_: no
[05:31] <sylpheedClaws> idefix_: some commands are similar in Unix and DOS
[05:31] <Pici> idefix_: Stupid? I didnt say that. I used dos as a kid and I love Linux.
[05:31] <sylpheedClaws> likewise
[05:31] <soundray> idefix_: I used DOS as a child, and I switched
[05:31] <j^2> hey all
[05:31] <idefix_> ok cool
[05:32] <mindstate> idefix_, so did i
[05:32] <jrib> squirrelpimp: what error are you getting?
[05:32] <CheshireViking> idefix_, anybody switching to Linux couldn't be called stupid :)
[05:32] <zyth> soundray, www.freedos.org
[05:32] <zyth> ;)
[05:32] <j^2> i messed up my install with a bunch of pkgs that i dont want, is there a way to get rid of most of them?
[05:32] <j^2> ie
[05:32] <squirrelpimp> jrib: a downloading error telling me there's some repo-error...
[05:32] <sylpheedClaws> j^2: nope
[05:32] <FunnyLookinHat> hey does Amarok support accessing (i.e. adding to media library) samba shares?
[05:32] <j^2> i installed ejabber, and i dont want it anymore
[05:32] <Parmenides> soundray: tx! gr8 tip! now if I can only remember it...
[05:32] <sylpheedClaws> oh...
[05:32] <j^2> and the deps
[05:32] <sylpheedClaws> just remove them
[05:32] <j^2> sylpheedClaws: oh
[05:32] <squirrelpimp> looking into the script it reveals that it tries to download version7 from several pages which all seem to fail
[05:32] <sylpheedClaws> if they didn't break anything
[05:32] <soundray> j^2: 'apt-get --purge remove packagename'
[05:32] <j^2> is there a way to see what pkgs i have installed?
[05:32] <squirrelpimp> i didn't check the urls...
[05:33] <jrib> squirrelpimp: it's probably because adobe moved the location of the flash tarball.  What version of flashplugin-nonfree are you using?
[05:33] <squirrelpimp> jrib: latest from edgy
[05:33] <Pici> j^2: Run synaptic, it should been in your administration menu
[05:33] <jrib> squirrelpimp: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[05:33] <squirrelpimp> i just downloaded the 9 tarball and perform a manual install
[05:33] <j^2> Pici: it's a server
[05:33] <soundray> j^2: dpkg --get-selections
[05:33] <squirrelpimp> 7.0.68~ubuntu3
[05:33] <j^2> nice thx guys
[05:34] <jrib> squirrelpimp: yeah, you are better off using 9 which is in backports
[05:34] <Pici> j^2: Theres dselect, its a console gui application, but the interface is a little confusing
[05:35] <soundray> Pici: I would *always* recommend aptitude over dselect
[05:35] <squirrelpimp> is it safe to enable backports for all pkgs? or should one only selectively enable bp?
[05:35] <Pici> soundray: I'll keep that in mind. I personally dont use either, so I just picked one off the top of my head
[05:35] <soundray> squirrelpimp: it depends on how much you trust the backports team. I personally have no trouble whatsoever in that respect.
[05:36] <squirrelpimp> k, thx
[05:36] <Pici> soundray: Its safe to enable for all packages
[05:36] <soundray> Pici: nothing is ever safe ;)
[05:36] <sylpheedClaws> !backports
[05:36] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:36] <mindstate> lol
[05:36] <zyth> !forwardports
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about forwardports - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <zyth> aww :(
[05:36] <sylpheedClaws> hmmm... thought it would say something about their stability
[05:36] <Pici> soundray: Its about as safe as trusting anything from the repos
[05:37] <sylpheedClaws> it's like upgrading to Debian Sid
[05:37] <soundray> sylpheedClaws: listen to Pici ^
[05:37] <soundray> sylpheedClaws: not at all
[05:37] <sylpheedClaws> it's usually safe, but not completely ironed out
[05:37] <zyth> build it all yourself! from source you audit!
[05:37] <zyth> take the power in YOUR HANDS!
[05:37] <sylpheedClaws> but then again... neither was Etch
[05:37] <soundray> sylpheedClaws: not at all
[05:37] <zyth> oh wait.  this isnt #gentoo
[05:37] <sylpheedClaws> zyth: lol
[05:38] <soundray> sylpheedClaws: backports are very much ironed-out ;)
[05:38] <Pici> zyth: I was going to suggest you move there ;p
[05:38] <Yaseax> can anybody tell me y xscreensaver laggs every few seconds on edgy/nvidia 6600gt (nvidia proprietary driver)?
[05:38] <ardchoille> I run 11 computer, five of which are servers, I only use main, multiverse, universe and backports, and I have never had any big problems in Ubuntu :)
[05:38] <sylpheedClaws> Yaseax: type "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[05:38] <steff_> ok I'm back
[05:38] <sylpheedClaws> and send us the resuts via Pastebin
[05:38] <ardchoille> I think the biggest problem I eve had was how to change the menu icon.
[05:38] <Yaseax> ok..
[05:38] <sylpheedClaws> !pastebin | Yaseax
[05:38] <ubotu> Yaseax: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:38] <soundray> ardchoille: I worry about your co2 footprint ;)
[05:39] <ardchoille> soundray: You worry too much ;)
[05:39] <steff_> so now  i have started ubuntu
[05:39] <amaia_> hi
[05:39] <Pici> steff_: Congrats
[05:39] <steff_> thanks :)
[05:39] <steff_> but now how to install it
[05:40] <vivh349> do you know a freeware for testing the memory leak in c++
[05:40] <soundray> steff_: did it find your hard disk now?
[05:40] <steff_> no
[05:40] <soundray> steff_: what kind of drive(s) do you have, and how are they connected?
[05:40] <steff_> sata
[05:41] <amaia_> hi, my monitor is not working, what should I do?
[05:41] <defrysk> buy a new one ?
[05:41] <Yaseax> sylpheedclaws: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7050/           .... it's a dualhead config with xinerama..
[05:41] <Nalleman> How can I get a desktop shortcut to a folder on a FAT32 disk?
[05:41] <soundray> steff_: is it an onboard controller? What's the chipset, and what ubuntu version are you trying?
[05:41] <vivh349> help me please !
[05:41] <jrib> !helpme | vivh349
[05:42] <ubotu> vivh349: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:42] <mindstate> Nalleman, nautilus /dir/fat/ i think would work
[05:42] <soundray> Nalleman: ln -s /target/folder $HOME/Desktop/linkname (haven't I told you this?)
[05:42] <steff_> Ubuntu Linux 6.10
[05:42] <Nalleman> soundray, yes. but I restarted X :] 
[05:42] <sylpheedClaws> Yaseax: no idea... thought you were using nv instead of nvidia
[05:42] <vivh349> do you know a freeware for testing the memory leak in c++
[05:43] <jrib> vivh349: why not try the c++ channel?
[05:43] <Yaseax> sylpheedclaws: since i put a ''#'' in front of ''Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"'' gnome-terminal doesn't run too..
[05:43] <[R] eaper> help!!! my ati card doesn't work right :( http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4847/atix1600qt6.jpg
[05:43] <sylpheedClaws> using Beryl?
[05:43] <jrib> vivh349: /join ##c++
[05:43] <vivh349> thank
[05:43] <Yaseax> i used it .. but atm i'm using xfce4
[05:43] <bauer77> Reaper what is the issue, I just resolved mine so I will try and help
[05:44] <[R] eaper> look the pic http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4847/atix1600qt6.jpg
[05:44] <vivh349>  /join ##c++
[05:44] <bauer77> I see a picture, that doesnt tell me your issue
[05:44] <vivh349>  /join #c++
[05:45] <soundray> vivh349: leave out the leading space
[05:45] <[R] eaper> it just does'nt look right, i have the latest ati drivers
[05:45] <DJ_Gentoo> [R] eaper: it doesn't load
[05:45] <bauer77> how did you install them?
[05:45] <Yaseax> DJ_Gentoo, thank u ^^ i'll see ;)
[05:45] <[R] eaper> damn, i'll try to upload to another server
[05:45] <steff_> last week i attempt installing suse 10.2 on the pc
[05:45] <bauer77> what happens when you type fglxrinfo
[05:45] <[R] eaper> i use the binaryhowto ati guide
[05:46] <[R] eaper> fglrxinfo says direct rendering yes
[05:46] <steff_> but just this messg. "Error! No hard disks were found for the installation. Please check your hardware!"
[05:46] <ghata1> I have just got a USB drive, how do I attached it to my system and automount it when attached. any help ?
[05:46] <soundray> steff_: I will try to help you , but you *have to* answer my questions
[05:46] <jrib> ghata1: have you tried plugging it in?
[05:46] <ghata1> jrib: yes I did. nothing happed
[05:46] <bauer77> does is show fglxr or mesa?
[05:47] <steff_> yes okay!
[05:47] <[R] eaper> shows ati radeon x1600
[05:47] <jrib> ghata1: anything show up in dmesg?
[05:47] <steff_>  Intel Core 2 CPU
[05:47] <bauer77> well it appears to be installed properly then.
[05:47] <ghata1> how do I check that ?
[05:47] <[R] eaper> damn, i have to go, brb
[05:47] <old_cymuHep> how to get my PHP understand russian???
[05:48] <jrib> ghata1: type 'dmesg', plug in usb hard drive, type 'dmesg'
[05:48] <soundray> steff_: I haven't asked for that. You need to find out what SATA chipset you have, and whether it is onboard or a PCI card.
[05:48] <Cdeszaq> anyone in here have experience with LIRC and ubuntu?
[05:48] <steff_> oh okay. sry. where i can find that?
[05:48] <OpenProjects> Hi
[05:48] <Yaseax> !irc
[05:48] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[05:48] <ghata1> jrib: it is showing, sda: sda1
[05:48] <ghata1> [17354926.368000]  sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda
[05:48] <ghata1> [17354926.408000]  sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[05:49] <OpenProjects> Can somebody help me with gforge installation? I have some questions.
[05:49] <jrib> ghata1: ok, so do you have /dev/sd*  that corresponds to it then?
[05:49] <jrib> ghata1: oh it said sda, so you should have /dev/sda.  Can you mount that?
[05:49] <old_cymuHep>  !
[05:49] <ghata1> jrib: yes it is there
[05:50] <juancg> hola
[05:50] <jrib> ghata1: what version of ubuntu by the way?
[05:50] <soundray> steff_: from your computer's hardware documentation
[05:50] <OpenProjects> Edgy
[05:50] <old_cymuHep> how to get my php understand russian because my web and forum is in russian....???
[05:50] <OpenProjects> I would like install the gforge 4.5 version
[05:50] <old_cymuHep> i am using ubuntu-server
[05:50] <dmb062082> is there a way to open the file browser with root access?
[05:51] <soundray> dmb062082: 'gksudo nautilus'
[05:51] <ardchoille> dmb062082: gksudo nautilus
[05:51] <defrysk> gksu <filebrowser>
[05:51] <jrib> dmb062082: gksudo nautilus,  this shouldn't really be necessary...
[05:51] <Lice> is there a file where you can see the users rights and so on?
[05:51] <steff_> mom i have to look it up
[05:51] <defrysk> gksudo
[05:51] <defrysk> *
[05:51] <Nalleman> soundray, thanks for the ln -s thingie. Sorry for being such a n00b... :)
[05:51] <Lice> or where is the file
[05:51] <ghata1> jrib: yes I can mount it. I am using edgy
[05:51] <ardchoille> Nalleman: Everyone was a noob at some point :)
[05:51] <old_cymuHep> !php
[05:51] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[05:51] <soundray> Nalleman: not to worry. You'll be an expert in no time, and then you'll help out others here
[05:52] <soundray> (I hope)
[05:52] <dmb062082> jrib well i want to play around with the files in var/www/ ...my apache server and its a pita with out root axs
[05:52] <soundray> :)
[05:52] <Nalleman> soundray, sure thing!
[05:52] <mindstate> ardchoille, i couldnt imagine guys like u and soundray being newbies lol
[05:52] <jrib> dmb062082: give /var/www better permissions, for example create a www-editors groups or soemthing
[05:52] <nnliu> hi is anyone here familiar with g15daemon?
[05:52] <dmb062082> jrib eh tell me more please
[05:52] <jrib> !permissions | dmb062082
[05:52] <ubotu> dmb062082: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[05:52] <Pici> old_cymuHep: I think you need to change the page encoding to somthing that supports cyrillic characters.  I'm not sure how to do that but perhaps the folks in #ubuntu-ru
[05:53] <Pici> old_cymuHep: might be able to help
[05:53] <zoli2k> how can I mount .daa image file/
[05:53] <zoli2k> ?
[05:53] <Zaggynl> I think you'll have to convert first, try kiso for that
[05:53] <soundray> mindstate: I got really good over the years at pretending not to be a newbie
[05:53] <jrib> ghata1: k well strange that it doesn't get automounted.  Is gnome-volume-manager running?
[05:54] <ardchoille> soundray: hehe
[05:54] <mindstate> soundray, i try to do the same lol
[05:54] <ardchoille> mindstate: Almost everything I know about Ubuntu, I learned from sitting in this channel and watching others.
[05:55] <mindstate> ardchoille, thats wut i do too...i just sit here..and read what u guys say...even save some stuff..it helps alot
[05:55] <ghata1> jrib: nope it is not, I am not using gnome, I am using fluxbox on X
[05:55] <soundray> I've got a newbie question, though: when you mount a network share via fstab, and the host with the share is down, the client hangs for a long time. How can I make it continue booting quickly, even if the share host is down?
[05:56] <ardchoille> jrib: I thought that daemon ran in xfce too
[05:56] <jrib> ghata1: ok, I guess you can write a udev rule (google for "writing udev rules") or run gnome-volume-manager then
[05:56] <mindstate> is there a channel save here? like a channel save link?
[05:56] <defrysk> soundray, I believe its ctrl-d during boot to skip
[05:56] <jrib> ardchoille: doesn't really matter since he's in fluxbox :P
[05:56] <defrysk> soundray, but not truly sure
[05:56] <ardchoille> jrib: D'oh!
[05:56] <dmb062082> how do i add one more group to the directory
[05:57] <muuhBDXi> hey any one using the satanic edition ?
[05:57] <ardchoille> muuhBDXi: Careful
[05:57] <soundray> defrysk: that's helpful -- but I was thinking there must be some sort of mount option, or an alternative method that doesn't use fstab?
[05:57] <defrysk> soundray, sorry
[05:57] <muuhBDXi> ardchoille:  ?
[05:57] <yomm>    soundray : i'm a newb , but you can set some "on error" flags as well , e.g "on error , remount ro" ,perhaps there is an option to skip mount on error ..
[05:57] <muuhBDXi> why ?
[05:58] <muuhBDXi> should i be carefull using the satanic edition ?
[05:58] <soundray> defrysk: what for? I appreciate it.
[05:58] <ahon> Witam
[05:58] <muuhBDXi> is that what you meant ardchoille ?
[05:58] <defrysk> soundray, sorry not sure about changing settings in fstab I ment ;)
[05:58] <muuhBDXi> is it a trojan ?
[05:58] <soundray> yomm: thanks, I'll check it out
[05:59] <mindstate> what is the satanic edition?
[05:59] <defrysk> muuhBDXi, no its a genuine ubuntu version but not supported by ubuntu
[05:59] <mindstate> sounds bad
[05:59] <DJ_Gentoo> muuhBDXi: nope!
[05:59] <mindstate> lol
[05:59] <muuhBDXi> ubuntu satanic edition
[05:59] <DJ_Gentoo> just a collection of themes
[05:59] <Pici> mindstate: muuhBDXi : Its just some themes, its not a different edition
[05:59] <DJ_Gentoo> it's harmless
[05:59] <defrysk> something like that yes
[05:59] <deameyes> is there a version of grub that uses mouse input?
[05:59] <mindstate> Pici, ohh alright cool
[06:00] <defrysk> just be carefull with the 6ses on your keyboard with the satanic
[06:00] <mindstate> lol
[06:01] <steff_> hm... problem with the hardware documentation. I can't find it. is there non other way to find out the chipset?
[06:01] <mindstate> just curious, but what irc software r u guys using?
[06:01] <Pici> mindstate: irssi
[06:01] <ardchoille> mindstate: I use irssi
[06:01] <deameyes> icechat
[06:02] <dmb062082> alright apache/mysql/php5 is up and running!
[06:02] <dmb062082> can anyone axs this? http://74.79.194.66/
[06:02] <jrib> !language | dmb062082
[06:02] <ubotu> dmb062082: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:02] <NightCircle> dmb062082: Yeah.
[06:02] <dmb062082> ha ok sorry
[06:02] <jrib> dmb062082: does that answer your question :P
[06:02] <dmb062082> yes yes good good thanks
[06:02] <[R] eaper> ok, im back :S
[06:02] <dmb062082> woohoo
[06:02] <Hasrat_Usa> dmb062082 yes
[06:03] <mindstate> ardchoille, pici, thats wut i figured lol
[06:03] <deameyes> so is there a version of grub that uses mouse input?
[06:03] <dmb062082> are there any webscripts in the repo?
[06:03] <dmb062082> that would be so cool
[06:03] <dmb062082> like wikipedia or a php forumm
[06:03] <DJ_Gentoo> deameyes: as far as I can tell, no
[06:03] <ardchoille> mindstate: I like irssi in a screen session so I can log in and out of different window managers for testing.. I go to vt1 for chatting.
[06:04] <soundray> !mediawiki | dmb062082
[06:04] <ubotu> dmb062082: mediawiki: website engine for collaborative work. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.15-1 (edgy), package size 1930 kB, installed size 7384 kB
[06:04] <dmb062082> awesome!!!!!
[06:04] <dmb062082> hahahah
[06:04] <dmb062082> where can i find a list of webscripts?
[06:04] <ardchoille> Mediawiki is quite nice :)
[06:04] <dmb062082> because the install new apps app does not have that section listed for easy browsing
[06:05] <mindstate> ardchoille, i rarely use screen sessions heh
[06:05] <jussi01> Hi all, I need an equivalent program to this one: http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Math-Scientific/Plot.shtml -----can someone help?
[06:05] <dmb062082> thats bs! The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:05] <dmb062082>   mediawiki: Depends: php4 (>= 4.1.2) but it is not going to be installed             Depends: php4-mysql but it is not going to be installed
[06:06] <twager> glxgears shows the wheels but no readout of speed in the terminal...Any ideas why ?
[06:06] <dmb062082> mediawiki requires php5 this i know
[06:06] <dmb062082> which i have running
[06:06] <DJ_Gentoo> twager: glxgears --print-fps
[06:06] <soundray> !mediawiki1.5 | dmb062082
[06:06] <ubotu> dmb062082: mediawiki1.5: website engine for collaborative work. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.8-1 (edgy), package size 2232 kB, installed size 8468 kB
[06:06] <DJ_Gentoo> try tha
[06:06] <ardchoille> twager: Because it's not a benchmark?
[06:06] <DJ_Gentoo> *that
[06:06] <dmb062082> lol thanks ha ha thats good
[06:06] <dmb062082> ahh that is working
[06:07] <dmb062082> thanks gentoo
[06:07] <DJ_Gentoo> yw
[06:07] <soundray> dmb062082: there is a 1.7 as well
[06:07] <dmb062082> eh damn
[06:07] <dmb062082> in the repo soundray?
[06:08] <soundray> dmb062082: yes. And drop the &^%$(* swear words.
[06:08] <twager> ardchoille, works ok in edgy but not in feisty
[06:08] <dmb062082> ooh sorry wont happen again
[06:08] <DJ_Gentoo> twager: "glxgears --print-fps" shows FPS
[06:08] <dmb062082> where does mediawiki install, its not in my var/www directory
[06:08] <jussi01> !enter | dmb062082
[06:08] <ubotu> dmb062082: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:09] <jaycie-> i have ubuntu4.10 and airnet wireless usb adapter.. can i get it to work?
[06:09] <Pici> jaycie-: 4.10?
[06:09] <imontoro> hi everybody
[06:09] <soundray> DJ_Gentoo: it's got to be -printfps, not --print-fps
[06:09] <jaycie-> yup
[06:09] <DJ_Gentoo> okay, then...
[06:09] <DJ_Gentoo> twager: "glxgears -printfps" shows FPS
[06:09] <ardchoille> glxgears --print-fps doesn't seem to work in Dapper
[06:09] <soundray> DJ_Gentoo: and for educational reasons, please suggest -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[06:09] <jaycie-> Pici ubuntu 4.10
[06:10] <imontoro> can anybody help me with an ipod not auto-mounting?
[06:10] <jaycie-> warty i think they call it
[06:10] <Quintin> Anyone here use nvu?
[06:10] <DJ_Gentoo> lol... good one
[06:10] <dmb062082> why wouldnt mediawiki install in /var/www/ by default, how can i locate it?
[06:10] <mindstate> dmb062082, whereis mediawiki ?
[06:10] <Quintin> dmb062082: man locate man whereis
[06:11] <soundray> dmb062082: generally, you find out where files install with dpkg -L packagename
[06:11] <ardchoille> 1685.617 FPS  Any good?
[06:11] <Quintin> ardchoille:  ???
[06:11] <scope006> for glxgears?
[06:11] <Quintin> imontoro: what does dmesg say?  ipod is just a usb device
[06:11] <ardchoille> yeah
[06:11] <twager> DJ_Gentoo,  Ta very much
[06:11] <soundray> ardchoille: what part of "it's not a benchmark" don't you understand?
[06:11] <Zaggynl> During upgrade to Edgy I'm asked if the customized config file /etc/login.defs should be kept or replaced, what should I do>
[06:11] <Quintin> that's not a frikking benchmark
[06:11] <Quintin> idiots
[06:11] <ardchoille> soundray: Touche :)
[06:11] <soundray> ardchoille: but yeah, it's pretty good ;)
[06:11] <Pici> jaycie-: The easiest way would be to install a distribution thats not 3 years old
[06:11] <dmb062082> yuck it installed in: mediawiki: /etc/mediawiki1.5 /usr/share/mediawiki1.5 how can i change this to install in a diff directory for future refrence?
[06:11] <Quintin> I've seen nvidia cards that get 16k fps
[06:11] <ardchoille> Pici: hahahaha
[06:12] <imontoro> Quintin, dmesg detects ipod, it's /dev/sdb2, but gnome-volume-manager has stopped automounting it :(
[06:12] <soundray> dmb062082: you can't (and you shouldn't)
[06:12] <bluffer_> ok im back leeched the iso and loaded it in vpc with 128 mb ram and i get a kernel panic will some one talk about it here ?
[06:12] <dmb062082> soundray why do you say that?
[06:12] <soundray> dmb062082: either stick with the default locations, or manage your own by not installing from a .deb
[06:12] <jaycie-> i have looked on forums and don't found what i need...yeah pici but what if u have tried for 2 days the iso for 6.10 and it will NOT install
[06:12] <bluffer_> here is the screen shot
[06:12] <bluffer_> http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntuyd3.png
[06:12] <dmb062082> ok soundray that would work well
[06:13] <DJ_Gentoo> twager: yw
[06:13] <Cdeszaq> anyone here have experience using LIRC?
[06:13] <soundray> dmb062082: you can always setup symlinks.
[06:13] <Amon-san> what do i need to emerge to have locate available?
[06:13] <soundray> Cdeszaq: is this a survey?
[06:13] <Prez_> someone running edgy with 2.6.20.1 kernel and intel 3945 wifi chipset?  i cannot seem to compile ipw3945 modules...
[06:13] <meloka> ola
[06:13] <Amon-san> oh, wrong channel
[06:13] <ardchoille> Amon-san: emerge?
[06:13] <imontoro> apt-get install slocate :P
[06:14] <old_cymuHep> noone knows how to make my webserver to understand russian?? i have web in russian launguag and also phpbb2 in russian..
[06:14] <old_cymuHep> ???
[06:14] <Amon-san> sorry i thought i was in the gentoo window i also have open
[06:14] <Cdeszaq> No, I am trying to get my remote working in ubuntu
[06:14] <meloka> me kago en tu padre
[06:14] <soundray> Cdeszaq: describe the problem then
[06:14] <meloka> aki se abla en espaol
[06:14] <soundray> !es
[06:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:14] <Zaggynl> gah, another dapper update failed
[06:15] <Quintin> !ru
[06:15] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:15] <britt> anybody know when adobe will get on the ball and make flash for PPC?
[06:15] <Cdeszaq> soundray: Well, I installed lirc using apt-get, and it told me to configure my remote using irrecord
[06:15] <imontoro> anybody knows how to configure gnome-volume-manager to automount a ipod? it suddenly stopped automounting it :(
[06:15] <mindstate> which version of ubuntu is more stable..dapper or edgy?
[06:15] <ardchoille> soundray: I'm curious.. if the output of an app is not reliable, why was glxgears written? Why is it distributed in distros?
[06:15] <ardchoille> mindstate: I say Dapper.
[06:15] <Cdeszaq> soundray: I have a Windows MCE Remote
[06:16] <mindstate> ardchoille, would a downgrade from edgy to dapper be possible? and if so is it safe?
[06:16] <soundray> ardchoille: you can compare frame rates under certain circumstances. For example when you use two different drivers on the same hardware.
[06:16] <jaycie-> Pici i have tried 6.06.1 server and regular and 6.10 it will NOT install over 4.10..any thots?
[06:16] <ardchoille> soundray: Ah, ok.
[06:17] <ardchoille> mindstate: I don't know anyting about upgrades. My way of upgrading is to install from CD on an empty hd.
[06:17] <soundray> Cdeszaq: have you found any info on the web that says that your remote is compatible with LIRC?
[06:17] <Cdeszaq> soundray: The problem is that when I try to run irrecord, it says that it "could not init hardware"
[06:17] <Prez_> hello again..
[06:17] <mindstate> ardchoille, lol
[06:17] <Cdeszaq> soundray: Yes, it says it is supposed to be
[06:17] <jaycie-> ardchoille do u do that with an iso cd? thats waht i have
[06:17] <Juhaz> ardchoille, it wasn't written as a benchmark, it's just a toy.
[06:18] <ardchoille> Juhaz: Yeah, thought so
[06:18] <ardchoille> jaycie-: yes
[06:18] <dyrne> jaycie-: can you distupgrade one stetp at a time? warty-->hoary-->breezy?
[06:18] <soundray> ardchoille: even then, you have to make sure that CPU load is roughly the same during both tests
[06:18] <soundray> Cdeszaq: how is the receiver connected? Serial?
[06:18] <ardchoille> soundray: I'm not "guru" enough for that yet, lol
[06:18] <jaycie-> ardchoille how do i wipe off hd with ubuntu on it now?
[06:18] <Cdeszaq> soundray: It is connected via usb
[06:19] <ardchoille> jaycie-: Just install from the cd and have the installer use the hd but erase all partitions. Be aware that you will lose all data, though, so make backups of anything you want to save.
[06:19] <shriphani> can somone please tell me why mc has 2 columns both displaying directories ?
[06:19] <Lunar_Lamp> !usenet
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usenet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <soundray> Cdeszaq: run 'tail -f  /var/log/syslog' and check for error messages as you plug the receiver in.
[06:19] <cherva> how to prevent GKrellM from minimizing with minimize all short cut ?
[06:19] <cherva> shortcut*
[06:19] <jussi01>  I need an equivalent program to this one: http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Math-Scientific/Plot.shtml -----can someone help?
[06:20] <jaycie-> i don't need backups but i put in 6.10 and click the install icon and it freezes up every time.. shoud i wait for the cd i bot to get to me?
[06:20] <imontoro> anybody can help me to debug an ipod with udev/gnome-volume-manager? it does not automount :(
[06:20] <drake> Hello, Is there a way to monitor my Graphics card's temperatures?
[06:20] <Rawr> For some reason I cannot get audio playback from dvds.
[06:20] <Rawr> Any suggestions?
[06:20] <dyrne> imontoro: wouldnt it be easier to just put a mount script on desktop and click when you plug it in?
[06:21] <ardchoille> jaycie-: Not sure, I never had anything freeze on me.
[06:21] <jaycie-> ardchoille thanks for the help.. if i can wipe off the hd i would try that. i have 6.10 on a diff pc and it works fine
[06:21] <cherva> how to prevent GKrellM from minimizing with minimize all shortcut ?
[06:21] <imontoro> dyrne: yep, or modify fstab, but I want to know why it does not appear as another USB flash disk like the rest of them
[06:21] <jussi01> Rawr: Have you checked in alsa that all the volumes are up?
[06:22] <Rawr> yeah
[06:22] <jaycie-> ardchoille is there a way to wipe off hd so i can put in 6.10?
[06:22] <imontoro> dyrne: and besides, automounting is a lot easier for my not-having-sudo-priviledges-users ;)
[06:22] <pfein> how can I install edgy next (ie, different partition) to dapper w/o booting from CD?
[06:22] <ardchoille> I didn't do so well with this keyboard, though. It prints what I type, not what I want, lol
[06:22] <jussi01> Rawr: nd I assume you have all the restricted format stuff...
[06:23] <Rawr> obviously
[06:23] <Rawr> I'm using vlc
[06:23] <ardchoille> jaycie-: If the ISO cd is freezing, I seriously doubt it has anything to do with the current content of the hd. Likely hardware issues or a bad burn.
[06:23] <RainCT> Hi
[06:23] <treeform> can i make my password change every hour to some thing like "password{hour}" ?
[06:23] <Rawr> what media player should I use?
[06:23] <Quintin> treeform: yes
[06:23] <Quintin> Rawr: mplayer.  duh
[06:23] <jussi01> Rawr: have you tried Deeveedee??
[06:23] <Quintin> Rawr: vlc is good too
[06:23] <jaycie-> i put 6.10 cd in then reboot? i have about 3 diff cds i have tried and 4.10 works ok... hm
[06:24] <Rawr> sound still doesn't work, I'll try reinstalling the codecs
[06:24] <shriphani> Rawr, i had problems getting h264 play well in vlc
[06:24] <shriphani> so i used gxine
[06:24] <drake> Is there a way to monitor GPU temp on radeon X1900?
[06:25] <jaycie-> ardchoille i have not been rebooting with cd in.. but shut down then restart.. maybe thats an issue?
[06:25] <krantix> i'm unable to use a smb printer shared under a windows machine.... can anybody help? cups always fails... and puts the jobs on hold, even if it says printer ready...
[06:25] <treeform> Quintin: do you know how?
[06:25] <dyrne> imontoro: understandable. i still havent messed with udev though. dont really see what the problem was with a old dev stucture
[06:26] <superbear> how to kill an daemon, with the pid file?
[06:26] <imontoro> dyrne: neither do I, but I think is something between udev and gnome-volume-manager...
[06:26] <RainCT> I've a little question... On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots its says "They are the only interactive bots allowed on the Ubuntu channels.". Does this refer to ALL ubuntu channels (including that one from LoCo's, like #ubuntu-cat), or only #ubuntu/#kubuntu?
[06:26] <Quintin> treeform: know what?
[06:26] <krantix> can anybody help me with ubuntu and smb printers? thanks! :-)
[06:27] <jrib> RainCT: maybe ask #ubuntu-ops?
[06:27] <superbear> my daemon (openvpn) creates a file with the pid of the daemon. now i want to write a script to kill the process
[06:27] <drake> kill -9 pid
[06:27] <RainCT> jrib ok thanks
[06:27] <soundray> superbear: 'kill $(cat /path/to/pidfile)'
[06:27] <superbear> thx
[06:27] <Pici> I'd avoid using the -9 unless you need to
[06:27] <Rawr> what audio channel should I use with gxine?
[06:28] <Cdeszaq> soundray: There were no errors as I plugged it in
[06:28] <Quintin> drake: ... kill is much better.
[06:28] <soundray> Cdeszaq: were there any messages relating to the plug event at all?
[06:28] <soundray> Cdeszaq: (no pasting here please, in case you were tempted)
[06:28] <Cdeszaq> soundray: Yes
[06:29] <Pici> !paste
[06:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:29] <Rawr> Damnit, still no sound
[06:29] <Nesco> Hmm...GAIM keeps closing for no reason..anybody got a solution?
[06:29] <soundray> Cdeszaq: so it loaded a driver?
[06:29] <krantix> can anybody help me with a samba printer? it says ready but does not print...
[06:29] <guille> Hi, does anybody knows what's the gtk-engine for the default theme called human?
[06:30] <WaZ_> Rawr: try unmuting PCM in sound countrol
[06:30] <Rawr> I did
[06:30] <Rawr> It wasn't muted.
[06:30] <Pici> guille: I think its clearlooks, but I could be wrong
[06:30] <WaZ_> Rawr: ok then, had the ptoblem that's why ;-)
[06:30] <Cdeszaq> soundray: Here is the output from the plugging in: http://pastebin.ca/367868
[06:30] <superbear> soundray: but kill don't want to read the correct PID it sais: "kill: 1: No such process" but the content of my file is 1899
[06:30] <imontoro> how can I debug a ipod not automounting un ubuntu?
[06:31] <Lunar_Lamp> Could someone recommend me a decent usenet client?
[06:31] <Rawr> wow
[06:31] <Rawr> mp3s are playing anymore either.
[06:31] <Pici> Lunar_Lamp: pan
[06:31] <jrib> guille: /usr/share/themes/Human/gtk-2.0/gtkrc  seems to say "ubuntulooks", but I don't know too many details about themes...
[06:31] <sharperguy> what is the package for the zope interface? I tried zome3 and zope2.9 and zope-common but poker3d still says i need zope interface
[06:31] <guille> Pici, but clearlooks is a theme not an engine isn't it?
[06:32] <Lunar_Lamp> Pici, thanks, I'll take a look - is it GUI or CLI?
[06:32] <Pici> Lunar_Lamp: GUI
[06:32] <krantix> can anybody help me with ubuntu and CUPS? thanks!!!
[06:32] <soundray> Cdeszaq: it sees the device, but it doesn't load a driver for it. You will have to search the web for hints as to where to go from here.
[06:32] <delphiuk> can anyone help me with an Apache starting problem on Ubuntu please?
[06:32] <Cdeszaq> soundray: Ok, thanks
[06:33] <soundray> Cdeszaq: a good starting point would be to look at the output of 'lsusb', identify the line that corresponds to the receiver, and search for the name or the USB ID.
[06:33] <soundray> Cdeszaq: I've only ever used a very simple serial receiver with LIRC.
[06:33] <Lunar_Lamp> Pici, is it possible to use port-forwarding to use usenet groups etc?  That is, tunnel my traffic?
[06:34] <michal_> pls some mp3 player for 5.1 play
[06:34] <michal_> do you know?
[06:34] <Tomcat_> michal_: MP3s are only stereo.
[06:34] <Pici> guille: Yes it is an engine and a theme
[06:34] <dyrne> !anybody| Just post the problem or error message
[06:34] <ubotu> Just post the problem or error message: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:34] <guille> Pici, ok
[06:34] <Z1nhow_> teste
[06:34] <muuhBDXi> MP3s are only stereo ?
[06:35] <Pici> Lunar_Lamp: I would assume that its possible, but I honestly don't know how to do ti
[06:35] <Lunar_Lamp> Pici, ok, thanks.
[06:35] <delphiuk> apache won't start, and there doesn't seem to be anything in the log explaining why. where would the log be?
[06:35] <muuhBDXi> too manu y peeps
[06:35] <nnliu> hi is anyone here familiar with g15daemon?
[06:35] <royel> delphiuk: should be /var/log/apache*
[06:35] <muuhBDXi> too many obscured peeps in here
[06:35] <michal_> I know mp3 stereo  ...but a need play this from my subwolfer because when sound play onli from 2 fronts..this sound is not good
[06:35] <superbear> soundray: ohh sry my fault
[06:35] <Kel1> hi guys, can anyone help me please? my soundcard dissapeared from system (edgy eft). is there any way to redetect it? card is SB audigy2 ZS, thx
[06:36] <superbear> soundray: everything ok
[06:36] <superbear> thx
[06:36] <muuhBDXi> IDIOTS
[06:36] <royel> muuhBDXi: name calling will get you no-where!
[06:36] <delphiuk> royel: yes, thought so, but nothing is in there?
[06:36] <mjrclark> delphiuk : /etc/apache/log or similar (apache2 for apache2)
[06:37] <Dextorion> mwhahha
[06:37] <muuhBDXi> eat me !
[06:37] <Dextorion> :)
[06:37] <mjrclark> delphiuk: check the init stuff, should be script in /etc/init.d or something, and a llink to that in some other .d folder in /etc/
[06:37] <delphiuk> can't find a /etc/apache2/log directory
[06:38] <royel> delphiuk: sudo /etc/init.d/apache start   <-- try that an you should see a message showing where logs are being stored
[06:39] <Dextorion> muuhBDXi: i so know how you feel. But like royel said, it wont help you :)
[06:39] <delphiuk> oh, royel , spot on, thanks I now have a description as to the problem ;)
[06:39] <Zaggynl> You have 31 broken packages on your system!
[06:39] <muuhBDXi> eat me !
[06:39] <Zaggynl> \0/
[06:39] <old_cymuHep> noone knows how to make my webserver to understand russian?? i have web in russian launguag and also phpbb2 in russian..
[06:39] <ardchoille> royel: Is that /etc/init.d/apache2 ?
[06:39] <royel> muuhBDXi: your such a child.. an now I've had to ignore the first person in #ubuntu
[06:39] <Dextorion> muuhBDXi: well.. atleast i tried to be somewhat nice there. But can forget that now. :)
[06:40] <muuhBDXi> Dextorion: you know wehat i feel ?
[06:40] <muuhBDXi> LOL
[06:40] <thianpa> How do i play mp3 in Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[06:40] <old_cymuHep> noone knows how to make my webserver to understand russian?? i have web in russian launguag and also phpbb2 in russian..
[06:40] <eagles0513875> hey
[06:40] <ardchoille> thianpa: xmms plays mp3 out of the box on Dapper
[06:40] <Yaseax> !mp3
[06:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:40] <muuhBDXi> FUCK OFF BIG BROTHER ASS HOLES
[06:40] <muuhBDXi> FUCK OFF BIG BROTHER ASS HOLES
[06:40] <muuhBDXi> FUCK OFF BIG BROTHER ASS HOLES
[06:40] <muuhBDXi> FUCK OFF BIG BROTHER ASS HOLES
[06:40] <muuhBDXi> FUCK OFF BIG BROTHER ASS HOLES
[06:40] <muuhBDXi> FUCK OFF BIG BROTHER ASS HOLES
[06:40] <muuhBDXi> FUCK OFF BIG BROTHER ASS HOLES
[06:40] <muuhBDXi> FUCK OFF BIG BROTHER ASS HOLES
[06:40] <Pici> !ops
[06:40] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[06:40] <PriceChild> !ops
[06:40] <soundray> Seveas: please help
[06:40] <muuhBDXi> FUCK OFF BIG BROTHER ASS HOLES
[06:40] <pfein> how can I install edgy next (ie, different partition) to dapper w/o booting from CD?
[06:40] <Dextorion> thats great. wow
[06:41] <Yaseax> !mp3 || thianpa: see !mp3
[06:41] <ubotu> | thianpa: see !mp3: please see above
[06:41] <eagles0513875> how do i unlock the package manager
[06:41] <delphiuk> could anyone help me with a SSL and Apache config?
[06:41] <bhouncy> anyone know how to get ati card to work with nforce3 chipset?
[06:41] <Pici> eagles0513875: You cant use two different package managers at the same time
[06:41] <mindstate> whats the graphical interface su for xfce?
[06:42] <thianpa> thank you
[06:42] <Pici> eagles0513875: Which is what I'm guessing you are doing.
[06:42] <old_cymuHep> noone knows how to make my webserver to understand russian?? i have web in russian launguag and also phpbb2 in russian..
[06:42] <old_cymuHep> !apache2
[06:42] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 80 kB
[06:42] <old_cymuHep> !apache
[06:42] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:42] <eagles0513875> im using synaptic pkg manager that came with ubuntu and then i got an error and ever time i use the apt-get command it doesnt install what i need it to and it give me an error 1 in regards to k3d
[06:43] <eagles0513875> how do i log into my screen name
[06:44] <Pici> eagles0513875: You need to run apt-get using sudo
[06:44] <eagles0513875> i am sudo
[06:44] <eagles0513875> i still get an error
[06:44] <Pici> eagles0513875: Is synaptic still open?
[06:44] <eagles0513875> no
[06:44] <Pici> eagles0513875: Can you pastebin your error?
[06:44] <wakeup_> hi
[06:44] <Pici> !pastebin
[06:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:45] <eagles0513875> sure
[06:45] <eagles0513875> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:45] <eagles0513875>  k3d
[06:45] <eagles0513875> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:45] <eagles0513875> that is what i get
[06:46] <eagles0513875> how do i register my screen name
[06:46] <Pici> !register | eagles0513875
[06:46] <ubotu> eagles0513875: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:46] <eagles0513875> ok and how do i log into it
[06:46] <Pici> Everything is on that page
[06:46] <wakeup_> ...
[06:47] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:47] <Zaggynl> When I try to fix broken packages, I get the following errors: http://www.pastebin.ca/367894
[06:47] <eagles0513875> what u think bout my error
[06:47] <noel> i need to put this command every time my system start (/usr/local/bin/ez-ipupdate -c /etc/ez-ipupdate.conf ) how can i do that?
[06:47] <eagles0513875> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:47] <eagles0513875>  k3d
[06:47] <eagles0513875> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:48] <Quilby> !ekiga
[06:48] <ubotu> ekiga: H.323 and SIP compatible VOIP client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3582 kB, installed size 12568 kB
[06:48] <eagles0513875> i even get that error when i try to uninstall it
[06:48] <Pici> eagles0513875: Can you use pastebin and put everything in there so you dont flood the channel
[06:48] <Quilby> How do I uninstall ekiga without uninstalling the ubuntu-desktop??
[06:48] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:48] <DJ_Gentoo> you don't need ubuntu-desktop
[06:49] <bhouncy> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV".. sound familiar?
[06:49] <erUSUL> noel: afaik you can add it to /etc/rc.local
[06:49] <DJ_Gentoo> it's a metapackage
[06:49] <Quilby> whats a metapackage?
[06:49] <DJ_Gentoo> something you don't need
[06:49] <DJ_Gentoo> !metapackage
[06:49] <ubotu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[06:49] <delphiuk> Quilby: can you not just aptitude remove ekiga?
[06:49] <cypher1> Quilby, synaptic
[06:49] <Quilby> but synaptic says that i have to also uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[06:50] <DJ_Gentoo> so... just uninstall it
[06:50] <noel> erUSUL, /etc/rc.local doesn't exist i hava rc.0 rc.1 ......
[06:50] <DJ_Gentoo> !metapackage | Quilby
[06:50] <Quilby> are you sure?
[06:50] <ubotu> Quilby: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[06:50] <DJ_Gentoo> yes, just do it
[06:50] <DJ_Gentoo> you don't need Ubuntu-desktop
[06:50] <Quilby> ok i hope my computer wont explode
[06:50] <DJ_Gentoo> it won't
[06:50] <Quilby> thanks dj
[06:50] <DJ_Gentoo> we guarantee
[06:50] <old_cymuHep> !apache
[06:50] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:50] <old_cymuHep> noone knows how to make my webserver to understand russian?? i have web in russian launguag and also phpbb2 in russian..
[06:50] <enn> Hello ... installing gsfonts-x11 caused adobe helvetica (the core bitmapped version) to look worse. So I removed it, and now many X11 bitmapped fonts do not display at all. There is empty space where glyphs should be.
[06:51] <soundray> old_cymuHep: just repeating your question is annoying and won't get you any replies. Rephrase and leave more time between repetitions.
[06:52] <eagles0513875> http://pastebin.com/886649 there u go that is what error message i get
[06:52] <Pici> old_cymuHep: I've suggested that you try asking in #ubuntu-ru did you get any reponse there?
[06:52] <soundray> old_cymuHep: others have referred you to #ubuntu-ru -- what did you find out over there?
[06:52] <eagles0513875> does that help pici
[06:53] <Pici> eagles0513875: Can you pastebin the results of `tail /var/log/dpkg.log`
[06:53] <Znortfl> Dear Ubuntu people, I am trying to save some electricity here and at the configuration I can only say that the screen should be turned of for a minimum of eleven minutes. Can't I set that limit any lower, and if, how?
[06:54] <echosyp> why doesn't ubuntu have a Central Time option in the Time Zone
[06:54] <echosyp> what kind of shit is that
[06:54] <soundray> !ohmy | echosyp
[06:54] <ubotu> echosyp: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:54] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Maybe this will help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=306480
[06:54] <echosyp> what
[06:54] <soundray> echosyp: change your attitude before you expect help
[06:54] <echosyp> you assume i had a bad attitude
[06:55] <eagles0513875> ty ill take a look
[06:55] <echosyp> and you know what they say about assuming
[06:55] <arthur_kalm> hi everyone, I'm having problems with the proprietary nVidia drivers for my 8800 GTS. I installed the latest drivers from nVidia's site and everything works fine. However, when I reboot, X fails to load and the error message is that it wasn't able to load NVIDIA kernel module...
[06:55] <old_cymuHep> soundray  , Pici  nothing!!!!!!!!!
[06:55] <PriceChild> echosyp, Why can't you choose where you live?
[06:55] <arthur_kalm> I tried reinstalling the driver and it worked fine
[06:55] <arthur_kalm> but when I restart, it breaks again
[06:55] <echosyp> yo, i live in texas
[06:55] <echosyp> there are no dots in texas for me to select
[06:56] <WaZ_> Is there a way to rewrite a grub install with the ubuntu live cd?
[06:56] <echosyp> there are no dots in the central time zone for me to pick
[06:56] <echosyp> just reinstall grub
[06:56] <kmarius> both xscreensaver and gnome-screen-saver are turned off, as is gnome-power-manager ... still my display is turned off after 10min or so of idleness. what process could it be?
[06:56] <foxy0brown> #ubuntu-fr
[06:56] <WaZ_> echosyp: yes, but is it on the live cd?
[06:56] <WaZ_> Im about to install Vista on my primary partition, making sure I can restore grub
[06:57] <echosyp> im sure it is since grub is installed when you install the system
[06:57] <echosyp> oh
[06:57] <soundray> !grub | WaZ_, follow the RecoverUbuntu procedure
[06:57] <ubotu> WaZ_, follow the RecoverUbuntu procedure: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:57] <WaZ_> soundray: ty
[06:57] <bhouncy> what sort of situation would once consider recompling kernel?
[06:57] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: If that helps, I'll tell you how I found it.
[06:57] <bhouncy> one*
[06:57] <echosyp> So why can't i set my time zone to central time
[06:58] <echosyp> the developers have something against central time?
[06:58] <eagles0513875> that didnt help ardchoille
[06:58] <eagles0513875> how do i log into my user name on here
[06:58] <derspankster> Chicago is Central, right?
[06:59] <echosyp> yeah
[06:59] <echosyp> i guess
[06:59] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: :(
[06:59] <derspankster> Can't you pick Chicago as a time zone?
[06:59] <echosyp> but you can't pick chicago
[06:59] <eagles0513875> what else can i try
[06:59] <echosyp> there is no dot in chicago
[06:59] <derspankster> No? I never noticed but figured there would be
[07:00] <echosyp> there aren't any dots in central time at all
[07:00] <echosyp> i don't get it
[07:00] <derspankster> Indianapolis?
[07:00] <echosyp> eastern
[07:00] <echosyp> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/usstates/timezone.gif&imgrefurl=http://worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/usstates/timezone.htm&h=307&w=427&sz=23&tbnid=pXERv6TKqAu7DM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtime%2Bzone%2Bmap&start=3&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=3
[07:00] <derspankster> St. Louis then
[07:00] <eagles0513875> anyone have any ideas
[07:00] <chuckf> echosyp, chose NY if you are eastern
[07:00] <soundray> echosyp: select Central Time from the dropdown list and spare us your foul language
[07:00] <eagles0513875> http://pastebin.com/886649
[07:01] <eagles0513875> how can i get rid of that
[07:01] <Quilby> did anyone her install the freenx server succesfully?
[07:01] <echosyp> fuck you, i hadnt cussed since the first time
[07:01] <PriceChild> !ops
[07:01] <derspankster> Chicago IS on there, I just checked
[07:01] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[07:01] <bhouncy> http://pastebin.com/886647
[07:01] <soundray> !ops | echosyp not adhering to code of conduct ;)
[07:01] <lyam> is there a big security risk of using torrents?
[07:01] <ubotu> echosyp not adhering to code of conduct ;): please see above
[07:02] <derspankster> whoa - didn't see that
[07:02] <eagles0513875> ubotu http://pastebin.com/886649
[07:02] <chuckf> lyam, depends on who's torrent it is
[07:02] <chuckf> lyam, typically the risk is low however
[07:02] <Ademan> is there any command that will check a volume and find out what its file system is?
[07:02] <soundray> derspankster: such a lamer ;)
[07:02] <eagles0513875> how do i clear dpkg
[07:03] <derspankster> soundray:I guess so
[07:03] <lyam> i want to use torrentleach tracker with azureus client, is it good by security point of view?
[07:04] <arnason> When will Launchpad be synched. with the source of Ubuntu? I would like to see me translations in context...
[07:04] <neo_> siemka jest tu jakis polak co by mi wytumaczy jak zainstalowc kadu ?/
[07:04] <eagles0513875> how do i clear the trace back so it wont install the package im having trouble with
[07:05] <neo_> jest tu woule jakispolaka co ma linuxa ??
[07:05] <soundray> eagles0513875: pastebin the output from 'sudo apt-get -f install' please
[07:05] <soundray> !pl | neo_
[07:05] <ubotu> neo_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:05] <giggsey> How do I search for wireless networks?
[07:05] <neo_> Hmm ale ja potrzebuje na teraza niemam zielonego pojecia o lunuxie  ??
[07:06] <soundray> neo_: ask in English please
[07:06] <neo_> i don't speak english
[07:06] <ardchoille> hahahaha
[07:06] <giggsey> lol
[07:06] <chuckf> lyam, I've never heard of torrentleach, but you take your chances with anything you download
[07:06] <neo_> y no to co wytumaczy kto ??
[07:07] <soundray> neo_: go to #ubuntu-pl
[07:07] <neo_> narx bo si chyba niedogadamy
[07:07] <eagles0513875> http://pastebin.com/886671
[07:07] <chuckf> lyam, yet if it just a file in the torrent, and you feel you can trust the source, go for it
[07:07] <eagles0513875> that is the full message i keep getting
[07:07] <eagles0513875> even when i force it
[07:08] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: In the future, it's better to use http://pastebin.ca because pastebin.com is painfully slow.
[07:08] <eagles0513875> ok
[07:08] <ardchoille> !paste | Or even this
[07:08] <eagles0513875> now i know
[07:08] <ubotu> Or even this: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:09] <stockfisch> hi folks
[07:09] <ardchoille> !k3d
[07:09] <ubotu> k3d: 3D modeling and animation system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.12.0-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 10182 kB, installed size 43492 kB
[07:09] <stockfisch> does anyone have a clue how to automatically reconnect a dsl connection after disconnect?
[07:09] <echosyp> so how do i fix this central time crap
[07:09] <echosyp> omg, is crap a bad word too?
[07:10] <apokryphos> echosyp: please watch your language in the future.
[07:10] <ardchoille> echosyp: I would first suggest you change your attitude and your language, otherwise people who can help are just going to put you on ignore
[07:10] <echosyp> i was until he got smart with me
[07:10] <chuckf> echosyp, you are in chicago right?
[07:10] <echosyp> no sir
[07:10] <echosyp> im in texas
[07:10] <eagles0513875> want me to resame here echo
[07:11] <echosyp> ?
[07:11] <denver> !ops | denver not adhering to code of conduct
[07:11] <ubotu> denver not adhering to code of conduct: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[07:11] <eagles0513875> im from x echo
[07:11] <nalioth> denver: can we help you?
[07:11] <apokryphos> denver: do not absuse that.
[07:11] <denver> sorry
[07:12] <chuckf> echosyp, chose America/Chicago
[07:12] <Zaggynl> I'm not sure what to do with this: www.pastebin.ca/367920
[07:12] <apokryphos> echosyp: I don't care; please don't do it in the future. If you have a complaint, tell an op.
[07:12] <Zaggynl> I can't fix the !$%)98 dependency
[07:12] <echosyp> god, stfu already
[07:12] <zyth> echosyp, there are plenty of places in central time
[07:12] <capiira> hi all anyone here installed prebuilds of ubuntu 7.xx?
[07:12] <royel> stockfisch: is it a PPPoE type connection?
[07:12] <Hasrat_Usa> i have a amd PC with ubuntu 6.10 installed in it at home and i know its ip address (the ip address given to me by earthlink to enable me to use the internet). right now it's running and i'm in the office on a laptop that has windows XP. can i somehow connect to my pc at home from my office's laptop?
[07:12] <igor> is here the right place to talk about ubuntu packaging?
[07:12] <cables> capiira, go to #ubuntu+1
[07:13] <capiira> ok
[07:13] <Seveas> igor, depends on what you want to talk about
[07:13] <igor> Seveas: about config feeding in customized ubuntu distros to a local network
[07:14] <pradeepvglughyd> I got a following message when I tried to start Ubuntu 6.10 CD on my friend's new core 2 Duo  box which has an Intel 965 mobo.The message is
[07:14] <pradeepvglughyd> BusyBox v1.1.3(Debian 1:1.3.3-2ubuntu3) Built-in-shell(ash)
[07:14] <pradeepvglughyd> Enter 'help' for a list of built in commands.
[07:14] <pradeepvglughyd> /bin/sh: can't access tty : job control turned off
[07:14] <pradeepvglughyd> (initramfs)_
[07:14] <stockfisch> royel i think so
[07:14] <igor> pradeepvglughyd: very weird.. the cd is fine? did you checked the CD integrity?
[07:14] <Cdeszaq> Hello. I am trying to install LIRC and when I attempt to configure, I get an error message saying that the "C compiler cannot create executeables"   Could somone help me figure this out?
[07:14] <stockfisch> i use "pon" for connection
[07:14] <Seveas> !compiling | Cdeszaq
[07:14] <ubotu> Cdeszaq: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:14] <Seveas> !lirc
[07:14] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[07:14] <royel> stockfisch: is there a router involved, or did you have to configure Linux to establish the connection?
[07:15] <igor> Cdeszaq: install libc6-dev
[07:15] <pradeepvglughyd> igor, the CD is fine coz I had already installed on my box
[07:15] <Seveas> igor, that's not nearly enough :)
[07:15] <stockfisch> royel, no router, just my ubuntu box
[07:15] <mjrclark> delphiuk: about the logs, I was wrong they are in /var/log/apache2/ (they are where I said iin some other distro)
[07:16] <hagabaka> is anyone willing to compile this and try if the tab completion works on Ubuntu? http://corsair626.no-ip.org/microdc/
[07:16] <hagabaka> it's pretty small
[07:16] <delphiuk> mjrclark: Yes, I found them but there is nothing in there
[07:17] <dxdemetriou> can I create a virtual network like the vmware for virtualbox? I tried with tap0 but failed
[07:17] <pradeepvglughyd> Has anyone faced trouble installing Ubuntu on new Core 2 Duo machines with Intel 965 mobo
[07:17] <royel> stockfisch: try this command to configure it, sudo pppoeconf
[07:18] <enrique> hello
[07:18] <stockfisch> royel, ok... i must already have done that, but ill have a look at it
[07:18] <stockfisch> thx
[07:18] <royel> stockfisch: maybe reading this page will provide some insight as well.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:18] <royel> stockfisch: there is an option to keep the connection alive
[07:19] <mjrclark> delphiuk: on my system I have a file /etc/rc0.d/K91apache2 that starts apache at startup, it was put there by the installation. does sudo apache2 -k start do anything?
[07:19] <enrique> what kind of ubuntu channel is this?
[07:19] <old_cymuHep> noone knows how to make my webserver to understand russian?? i have web in russian launguag and also phpbb2 in russian..
[07:19] <enrique> can anybody help me with the terminal screen?
[07:20] <cables> !ask | enrique
[07:20] <ubotu> enrique: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:20] <enrique> ok
[07:20] <stockfisch> royel, i cant find the option
[07:20] <ardchoille> enrique: This is the Ubuntu support channel. Please explain your issue.
[07:20] <stockfisch> do you know which config it modifies?
[07:20] <delphiuk> mjrclark: I have worked out that it is something to do with me trying to configure virtual hosts. I am just reading a howto now
[07:21] <enrique> you know how you can press "ctrl + F#" to get the black screen? well i have huge fonts and would like to change them to tiny
[07:21] <Xzenome> I think Ubuntu only knows about one of the cores of my dual core processor, how can I test to see if it does know about the 2nd core (Windows XP does) and if it isn't using the 2nd core, how can I rectify the situation?
[07:21] <enrique> please help
[07:21] <cables> Xzenome, are you using edgy or dapper?
[07:21] <Xzenome> Edgy
[07:21] <enrique> you know how you can press "ctrl + F#" to get the black screen? well i have huge fonts and would like to change them to tiny
[07:22] <sjust1216> Anyone know where I could get help writing a bash script using festival
[07:22] <igor> Seveas: I will shoot. I want do a default ubuntu install (ok), then install some addictional packages (i will do this using FAI) (ok). But I want to do some configurations. As: Change GDM background color. Set default user fonts. Set default user background. Configure browser. (I know that I can do this using gconf/mandatory). Right now what I do: I create a package called mydesktop-1.0. this package depends everything that I want install. Inside this package
[07:22] <igor> I have a couple of files (as gdm.custom or /etc/rc.local) that I overwrite over the defaults ones (bad cause I keep recieving that "You want overwrite or keep local settings", I want avoid this). And bad too cause a update can mess with all my configs. and Gconf keys I activate in postinst scripts. This is a good practice? There is better ways to do it? If so. There is somewhere to read about this?
[07:22] <Xzenome> cables: Edgy
[07:22] <mjrclark> enrique: do not repeat your question. I think the cmmand is "resize -s cols rows" , otherwise no idea.
[07:22] <cables> Xzenome, not sure then...
[07:22] <mwe> enrique: you need to change resolution for the frame buffer at boot time
[07:22] <royel> old_cymuHep: this might help http://www.phpbuilder.com/manual/en/configure.php
[07:22] <Xzenome> damn. Any ideas how I could test to see if is using both?
[07:22] <enrique> but which file do i have to modify?
[07:23] <mwe> enrique: /boot/grub/menu.lst but you need some directions and will probably loose the boot splash
[07:23] <Zaggynl> I can't finish upgrading to edgy, 'sudo aptitude dist-upgrade -f' ends with the following error:  'Removing listswt3.1-gtk-gcj \n cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'
[07:23] <Zaggynl> I'm completely clueless on what to do
[07:24] <ardchoille> enrique: I did it this way: gksudo /boot/grub/menu.lst, go to the lines that start with "kernel" and put "vga=791" (without the quotes) on the end of those kernel lines and reboot. That made the fonts in my vt1-6 smaller.
[07:24] <Zaggynl> It tried the 'howto fix broken depedencies' topic in the forum, but I keep getting the above error
[07:24] <enrique> so do i have to read the man file for grub?
[07:24] <Cdeszaq> How do I kill a process?
[07:24] <Toast> confidential
[07:24] <Zaggynl> Cdeszaq, killall processname
[07:24] <enrique> ok
[07:24] <mwe> ardchoille: but you lost the boot splash too?
[07:24] <enrique> thanks ardchoille
[07:24] <ardchoille> enrique: I meant gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:24] <Xzenome> Zaggynl  try sudo apt-get update? Then try it again
[07:24] <Zaggynl> will try
[07:25] <enrique> ardchoille,  but are there different sizes?
[07:25] <ardchoille> mwe: I don't know, the boot splash is one of the first things I rip out.
[07:25] <mwe> ardchoille: I think you do, though
[07:25] <Zaggynl> Xzenome, the same happens
[07:25] <ardchoille> enrique: Ignore what I said, it's probably bad advice.
[07:25] <enrique> i don't know
[07:25] <enrique> lol
[07:26] <mjrclark> mwe: I looked in my menu.lst and I find no font info, and it is the config for grub, not the shell- so I think it unlikely to contain that option.
[07:26] <mwe> ardchoille: it's not bad advice he can change it back to get the splash if it's lost
[07:26] <Xzenome> Zaggynl, you could always try "sudo update-manager --dist-upgrade"
[07:26] <mwe> mjrclark: you're wrong
[07:26] <enrique> ok, another question then, is there a way to have ubuntu boot to command line instead of the gui login screen?
[07:26] <mwe> mjrclark: changing the resolution for the frame buffer will decrease the font size
[07:26] <ehc> im having trouble installing video codecs. my sources.list is http://dpaste.com/5977/
[07:27] <Zaggynl> Xzenome, 'update-manager: error: no such option: --dist-upgrade'
[07:27] <ehc> any ideas?
[07:27] <ardchoille> mwe: Ah, ok
[07:27] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[07:27] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:27] <Xzenome> Zaggynl, are you still on Dapper?
[07:27] <swarog> hello
[07:27] <mwe> enrique: yes. install rcconf and run sudo rcconf and disable gdm
[07:27] <Zaggynl> Xzenome, no clue
[07:27] <enrique> how do i set ubuntu to start at the command window instead of gui!!!!!!!!!!, lol
[07:27] <Zaggynl> Xzenome, how do I tell?
[07:28] <Dr_willis> enrique,  disable the gdm/kdm/xdm service
[07:28] <enrique> oh, ok, i'll try
[07:28] <Xzenome> Zaggynl, try sudo update-manager -c
[07:28] <mwe> enrique: then run startx or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start to run X
[07:28] <Zaggynl> Xzenome, 'Software index is broken'
[07:29] <Xzenome> Zaggynl. Do you have a CD to install Ubuntu? If so I suggest you go for a clean install. Even better download and burn a CD for Ubuntu Edgy Eft and install that.
[07:29] <Zaggynl> sigh
[07:29] <Zaggynl> I guess I'll put my dapper backup and wait for Feisty
[07:29] <enrique> do i have to install rconf?
[07:29] <enrique> or do i have to modify the file rconf?
[07:30] <Xzenome> Zaggynl, sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[07:30] <Zaggynl> That's okayt
[07:30] <lorena> ola
[07:30] <kmarius> anyone know what process is blanking my display after 10min or so of idleness? (gnome-screensaver, xscreensaver, gnome-power-manager are off)
[07:30] <Zaggynl> Thanks for the help so far :)
[07:30] <mwe> enrique: rcconf or use update-rc.d but it wont allow you to add it back easily
[07:30] <lorena> k pasa
[07:31] <Xzenome> Zaggynl, do you have backup of your sources.list?
[07:31] <ardchoille> I love Ubuntu, and Dapper is the most rock-solid distro I have ever seen. But, why does Edgy have so many problems? Was it rushed? No offense to anyone, just curious.
[07:31] <Zaggynl> Said that before ;-)
[07:31] <WaZ_> !pastebin >WaZ_
[07:31] <Zaggynl> yep
[07:31] <apokryphos> ardchoille: it was rushed.
[07:31] <ardchoille> apokryphos: I thought so.
[07:31] <apokryphos> ardchoille: 4 month release-cycle
[07:31] <steel_lady> easy question: I have a font that I wanto to install on the system. what should I do. I went to system preferences to folder font and i see all fonts but not the path to it. how should I put it in?
[07:31] <Zaggynl> Xzenome, in fact, I have a backup of my whole linux hdd
[07:31] <ardchoille> apokryphos: Ah, ok.
[07:33] <Xzenome> Zaggynl, I suggest you just revert to that then. It is probably the easiest way. Next time you might want to upgrade via "sudo update-manager -c".
[07:33] <Zaggynl> Xzenome, well this second time I did so
[07:33] <Zaggynl> I keep getting this:  'Removing listswt3.1-gtk-gcj \n cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'
[07:34] <xerophyte> does anybody know why do i get this error agetty[5306] : /dev/ttyS0: No such file or directory ?
[07:35] <Jeeves_Moss> does anyone know how to take that annoying "ubuntu" spash screen off of the boot?  I love seeing everything scroll by when it boots
[07:35] <ardchoille> Jeeves_Moss: Yes.
[07:35] <enrique> yeah me too
[07:35] <enrique> lol
[07:35] <Dr_willis> 'nosplash' option in the grub setttings :)
[07:35] <Dr_willis> disables it totally
[07:35] <enrique> although i don't understand what's going on
[07:35] <enrique> lol
[07:35] <Jeeves_Moss> Dr_Willis:  I tried doing that, but it keeps reverting back to the old settings.
[07:35] <ardchoille> Jeeves_Moss: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  <-- open that and remove the word "splash" from the kernel lines.
[07:36] <enrique> in the grub settings, is there a way to set the size of the fonts of the console?
[07:36] <Jeeves_Moss> Dr_Willis:  I don't really want to play with GRUB.  I'm afraid I'll kill it.  this is my work/personal laptop, and I think I'll screw it up!!
[07:36] <RkyRaccoon55> can somebody help me get my drivers running for my radeon x1950 pro?
[07:37] <ardchoille> Jeeves_Moss: If you find you like it that way, also take the word "splash" our of the line that starts with: # defoptions
[07:37] <Jeeves_Moss> ardchoille:  ok, thnaks.  I'll have a look when I boot into Ubuntu.  I'm stuck in M$ right now.
[07:37] <Zaggynl> Anyone willing to help me through updating my dapper->edgy? I have a backup and today and tomorrow for it
[07:37] <ardchoille> Jeeves_Moss: eeewwww
[07:38] <enrique> ardchoille, thanks for your help
[07:38] <Zaggynl> I tried twice so far and failed
[07:38] <ardchoille> lol
[07:38] <ardchoille> enrique: You're welcome :)
[07:38] <RkyRaccoon55> can anyone help me with installing ati drivers that work with the x1950 pro?
[07:38] <thianpa_> !mpeg
[07:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:38] <Jeeves_Moss> ardchollie:  well, if I could run all my M$ apps in there, and still play M$ games (mostly Counter strike and Company of heores), then I'd totaly switch.  I love freeking out the other IT guys @ work.
[07:38] <sebrock> hmm.. I got the mic going now, but whenever I try "Sound Recorder" it just hags... any idea how I can record from the mic?
[07:39] <ardchoille> Jeeves_Moss: hehe
[07:39] <Jeeves_Moss> ardchoille:  I got labled a "hacker" and a "security risk" becasue I was looking for a hole in their exchange server with Linux.
[07:39] <RkyRaccoon55> ubotu the link you sent me yesterday, i followed step by step, something got screwed up and i needed to re-install ubuntu becasue it wouldnt even launch
[07:39] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (edgy), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[07:40] <ardchoille> Jeeves_Moss: I would think that would be welcomed.. helping them keep things secure.
[07:41] <royel> !bot | RkyRaccoon55
[07:41] <ubotu> RkyRaccoon55: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:41] <Jeeves_Moss> ardchoille:  actully, I'm one of the IT guys, and I just about lost my job over it.
[07:41] <RkyRaccoon55> anyone here know how to install drivers for the radeon x1950 pro?
[07:41] <qnull_> anybody has experience in installing ubuntu on a virtual pc?
[07:42] <Jeeves_Moss> qnull_:  what virtual PC system are you installing it on?
[07:43] <qnull_> I have to use Microsoft VPC 2007 at work
[07:43] <CPUnerd> if he mentionned virtual pc it's probably the miscrosoft one otherwise he would mention vmplaer :P
[07:43] <Jeeves_Moss> qnull_: never installed it on that.  I'm not lucky enough to have that much $$ floating.  I know how to do it in VMWare.
[07:44] <CPUnerd> :P same here.
[07:44] <Jeeves_Moss> qnull_:  I'm acully updating my v-install of it in VMWare right this second.
[07:44] <RkyRaccoon55> can someone please help me? I have ubuntu running but i need some video drivers for an ati radeon x1950 pro.  Can someone please help?
[07:44] <CPUnerd> haha :)
[07:44] <CPUnerd> i'm apt-get upgrade'ing now :)
[07:44] <CPUnerd> trying to install nvidia driver
[07:45] <qnull_> Jeeves_Moss: yes that easy: just download a vmWare image
[07:45] <rb007> is there a way to force ubuntu to maintain my custom DNS?  It keeps switching back to the ultra-slow default when I want it to use openDNS...
[07:45] <ramonsa> hello!
[07:45] <Jeeves_Moss> qnull:  no actully, I just d-loaded the ISO for ubuntu, mounted the virtual CD to the ISO, and fired it up.  it runs the install the same way it would on a regular PC
[07:45] <sebrock> when I try "arecord -d cd -t wav foobar.wav" the file does not get bigger... so no information is stored in it? How can I record the microphone?
[07:45] <gabi> hi
[07:46] <Jeeves_Moss> gabi:  hi
[07:46] <qnull_> Jeeves_Moss: to download is the way you have to do it if you only have the vmware player
[07:46] <CPUnerd> that's it.. totally busted my thing.
[07:47] <ramonsa> Question: I am using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS and my ipod is not detected when connected to USB port. Any suggestions?
[07:47] <Jeeves_Moss> qnull:  I actully have VMWare workstation 5.5.3
[07:47] <CPUnerd> ramonsa, look at hmm what's the name yet.
[07:47] <Jeeves_Moss> qnull_: I just saved the Ubuntu ISO to another directory on my M$ box, then mapped the v-CD to the ISO
[07:47] <CPUnerd> google, or http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu
[07:48] <qnull_> Jeeves_Moss: Better than MS VPC2007
[07:48] <kmaynard> try songbird with the ipod plugin...
[07:49] <tim167> hi, i want to download several files on some webpages at once, how can I tell Aria (or another download helper) to look for links that are at a certain depth (follow links to pages which in turn have links to files) ? thanks!
[07:49] <RichiH> .
[07:49] <WaZ_> join #beryl
[07:49] <Jeeves_Moss> qnull_:I'm an MCSE, and I still don't trust M$ crap
[07:49] <ardchoille> lol
[07:50] <kevin> Greetings, the computer I borrowed from work used to be on a proxy server. Currently export http_proxy and ftp_proxy are set, I type: export http_proxy='' to unset http and ftp, it works until I log back in again and then they revert back to the old proxy settings. I also cannot install the updates it says are available because that is trying to use the proxy settings as well. How can I update?
[07:50] <ramonsa> CPUnerd: Thanks for the tip, I will check it out.
[07:50] <royel> trusting anything in this world is risky .. sadly
[07:51] <kevin> how do I change the proxy settings for update manager?
[07:51] <Jeeves_Moss> ardchoille:  in Gates we trust?  naaa, let's keep him OUT of the whitehouse!
[07:52] <yomm>  vmware rules absolutely over VPC
[07:52] <numist> that's a fact
[07:52] <yomm> no doubt
[07:52] <Jeeves_Moss> qnull_:  you have to question who will be faster.  True, M$'s excuse is built in, but VMWare is small and fast.
[07:53] <yomm> and you can get vmware ( player & server ) for free !
[07:53] <steel_lady> easy question: I have a font that I wanto to install on the system. what should I do. I went to system preferences to folder font and i see all fonts but not the path to it. how should I put it in?
[07:53] <Jeeves_Moss> yomm:  amen to that one!
[07:53] <sebrock> is it a common problem that sound recorder hangs?
[07:53] <igor> steel_lady: go to ~/.fonts folder
[07:53] <tim167> how can I tell Aria (or another download helper) to look for links that are at a certain depth (follow links to pages which in turn have links to files) ? thanks!
[07:54] <igor> steel_lady: put your font there.. and voila
[07:54] <Kayin> I have a bit of a problem, I've got a Vaio laptop with Ubuntu Edgy on it and there's a VGA port for an external monitor on the back which I plan to use to display my presentation on a big screen on Monday, but I can't get it to work.
[07:54] <igor> steel_lady: if this dir didn't exist. .Create it. Open your home folder with nautilus and create a FOLDER called .fonts (with the DOT)
[07:54] <asti> tim167: you need to use an offline browser, like HTTrack for that
[07:55] <Kayin> Help would be very much appreciated.
[07:55] <eltese> anyone who can help me make vmware workstation play up and install .iso's?
[07:55] <steel_lady> igor, there is some folder for fonts but I can't see path to it
[07:55] <yomm> :Jeeves : as if there was any competition between the two :)
[07:56] <igor> steel_lady: there is 2 fonts folders: System and user. Put in your user folder the path is ~/.folder
[07:56] <tim167> asti: but i have FlashGot plugin for Firefox, that should be able to do this no? (using Aria or something similar) anyway I'll look at HTTrack, thank you
[07:56] <igor> steel_lady: nautilus translate ~ as your home folder
[07:56] <Jeeves_Moss> has anyone used the new linker for visual studio to create anything that runs in Linux yet?  it was on Slashdot yesterday
[07:56] <steel_lady> igor, if I do ls for that folder, why I don't see the contents
[07:56] <Dead-Locked> I want to RAR indvidual files within a folder, all into there own folder. How can I accomplish this?
[07:56] <igor> steel_lady: cause its empty
[07:56] <Dead-Locked> I want to RAR indvidual files within a folder, all into there own RAR. How can I accomplish this?
[07:56] <Dead-Locked> I said it wrong
[07:57] <Dead-Locked> had to fix it
[07:57] <neighborlee> hi ,,I can't seem to  unlock panel , so that I can alter its size and position ( left instead of top)..the properties option works, but it doesn't let me unexpand the panel or move it ??
[07:57] <neighborlee> edgy
[07:57] <igor> steel_lady: try touch ~/.fonts/test_file
[07:57] <Mattias> !cairo dock
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cairo dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <igor> steel_lady: then ls -l ~/.fonts/
[07:57] <josh120> Hello everyone!  I am in dire need of an ubuntu Edgy expert
[07:57] <igor> josh120: shoot your questions
[07:57] <arrenlex> !ask | josh120
[07:57] <ubotu> josh120: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:57] <chuckf> josh120, we all use Vista
[07:57] <neighborlee> josh120, please state the nature of the emergency
[07:58] <neighborlee> josh120, ;)
[07:58] <SeanTater> Are there any brief introductions to the shell (less than 10 pages)?
[07:58] <arrenlex> chuckf: Speak for yourself. I'm running an apple lisa.
[07:58] <josh120> Thanks didnt want to interrupt, my apt-get timesout everytime.  I have changed the sources.list to the US,CA,Eu servers and get the same result everytime
[07:58] <igor> SeanTater: what you want to know. Basic comands?
[07:58] <Dead-Locked> I want to RAR indvidual files within a folder, all into there own RAR. How can I accomplish this?
[07:58] <SeanTater> igor: more syntax, less commands
[07:58] <igor> Dead-Locked: why not TARGZs?
[07:58] <SeanTater> igor: if, then, while, etc..
[07:58] <steel_lady> igor, I see test file. so it means that the folder is empty
[07:59] <Dead-Locked> igor: They need to be rars.
[07:59] <ardchoille> josh120: You are running sudo apt-get update  after each change to sources.list right?
[07:59] <igor> SeanTater: bash programming then.. there is a good howto.. search for basi bash programming howto in google
[07:59] <Squee> I'm having trouble with setting up an encrypted filesystem (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto4).  Can anyone see anything wrong with the last 4 lines of step 6?  That is where i'm stuck.  It tells me "device-mapper: create ioctl failed: Device or resource busy"
[07:59] <bewst> Can anyone help me replace the use of the forcedeth module with sky2 for my ethernet adapters?
[07:59] <igor> steel_lady: not SO empty.. there is a test file there right now.
[07:59] <josh120> ardchoille: yes
[08:00] <igor> steel_lady: put your font there.
[08:00] <steel_lady> igor, why not in sistem folder?
[08:00] <igor> Dead-Locked: install rar (aptitude install rar)
[08:00] <Dead-Locked> I did
[08:00] <josh120> I have all my results posted here
[08:00] <josh120> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=362055
[08:00] <rb007> How do I get Ubuntu to remember my custom DNS settings?  I type in new DNS servers and Ubuntu goes back to the ultra-slow default one -- maybe the router.
[08:00] <eltese> anyone who can help me make vmware workstation play up and install .iso's?
[08:01] <igor> steel_lady: cause there is only one user in your computer. System folder isn't the right place to do it.
[08:01] <Jeeves_Moss> rb007:  are you editing your interfaces file?
[08:01] <hzsp> hi.  I'm having trouble installing ubuntu, hanging at "configuring apt" stage.  I suspect the http firewall, see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-setup/+bug/14599
[08:01] <rb007> Jeeves_Moss: I'm using the network tool (GNOME GUI tool)
[08:01] <Dead-Locked> igor: I want to be able to do it as like a batch, so i dont have to do it individually. Just all the files within this dir, rar'ed into there own rars.
[08:01] <igor> Dead-Locked: rar  <ENTER> will show you a help . you can user file-roller too (right click it->create archive)
[08:01] <Squee> I'm having trouble with setting up an encrypted filesystem (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto4).  Can anyone see anything wrong with the last 4 lines of step 6?  That is where i'm stuck.  It tells me "device-mapper: create ioctl failed: Device or resource busy"
[08:01] <Jeeves_Moss> rb007:  ok, sorry, I've only used the BASH to do it.
[08:01] <igor> Dead-Locked: do you know how to use rar command?
[08:02] <rb007> Jeeves_Moss: is it easy to do in BASH?
[08:02] <Jeeves_Moss> rb007:  it's im ./etc/network/interfaces
[08:02] <rb007> I'll do it anyway that works to speed up the surfinc
[08:02] <rb007> surfing
[08:02] <Alam_Ubuntu> rar x <file.rar>
[08:02] <igor> Jeeves_Moss: withou the leading .
[08:02] <rb007> Jeeves_Moss: thanks
[08:02] <Dead-Locked> igor: I havent been able to find a way to do more than one file at a time.
[08:02] <Alam_Ubuntu> to extract
[08:02] <Jeeves_Moss> igor:  yea.  sorry, I was trying to show it was from root
[08:02] <josh120> Anyone know why apt-get update and add/remove and synaptic do not work for me?  They all timeout
[08:02] <igor> Dead-Locked: use 'r' option (RECURSIVE_
[08:03] <Jeeves_Moss> rb007:  let me look for a "howto"
[08:03] <chuckf> Dead-Locked, is this a one time thing or ongoing?
[08:03] <igor> Jeeves_Moss: sorry r is repair
[08:03] <rb007> Jeeves_Moss: thanks...
[08:03] <Dead-Locked> I'll probaly need to do it often.
[08:03] <Dead-Locked> rar r *.rar ?
[08:03] <chuckf> Dead-Locked, the same files or different ones?
[08:03] <igor> Dead-Locked: sorry again   r             Recurse subdirectories
[08:03] <Dead-Locked> or something of that nature
[08:03] <Squee> I'm having trouble with setting up an encrypted filesystem (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto4).  Can anyone see anything wrong with the last 4 lines of step 6?  That is where i'm stuck.  It tells me "device-mapper: create ioctl failed: device or resource busy"
[08:03] <Jeeves_Moss> rb007:  I remember having to do this for a while.  then I just got mad and MAC mapped everything on my network
[08:03] <_eMaX_> hi
[08:03] <igor> Dead-Locked: rar r file.rar sourcedir/
[08:04] <Dead-Locked> chuckf: Different files. All within a folder.
[08:04] <kitche> eltese: you right click the cdrom drive and go to properties and you should be bale to have it use an iso
[08:04] <makka2_> Hi people i wanted to know if anyone can tell me a dwg reader for ubuntu
[08:04] <rb007> Jeeves_Moss: what is MAC mapped?
[08:04] <Dead-Locked> igor: can i make it so they keep there current names?
[08:04] <chuckf> Dead-Locked, sorry, on the repetitive task is it the same or different files?
[08:04] <Dead-Locked> chuckf: Differnt files.
[08:04] <RkyRaccoon55> will someone here please help me get my video drivers running?
[08:04] <igor> Dead-Locked: I prefer TGZ.. check the help.
[08:04] <halkonst> Hey, anyone know of a way to remove a module completely from your kernel without having to recompile? I'm running 2.6.20-8-generic and want to remove fglrx. I tried with modprobe -r followed by rmmod but it didn't do the trick.
[08:05] <igor> Dead-Locked: explain exactly what you wanna do?
[08:05] <Jeeves_Moss> rb007:  it means my DHCP server looks @ the server's MAC address, then asigns the corect addresses, etc to it.  that way, if I swap out a server, I just yank the card, no need to fiddle with the IP settings.
[08:05] <Dr_willis> halkonst,  fglrx is not compiled inmto the kernel.. if rmmod dont remove it - its because its in use.
[08:05] <dejand> how to change layout in xfce ?!
[08:05] <Jeeves_Moss> rb007:  let's just say that I'm LAZY!
[08:05] <Dr_willis> halkonst,  there is a FORCE option to rmmod i recall
[08:05] <Squee> I'm having trouble with setting up an encrypted filesystem (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto4).  Can anyone see anything wrong with the last 4 lines of step 6?  That is where i'm stuck.  It tells me "device-mapper: create ioctl failed: device or resource busy"
[08:05] <ardchoille> Jeeves_Moss: At least you're honest.
[08:05] <rb007> Jeeves_Moss: I can't mess with the network... just my laptop...
[08:06] <rb007> Jeeves_Moss: if I put it in my file (that you mentioned) will Ubuntu overwrite it?
[08:06] <Dead-Locked> Igor: I have 30 files within a folder. I want to have each of those 30 files in there own rar file, with the same name as the file. I woud like to do it without needing to do it indiviually.
[08:06] <halkonst> Dr_willis:  it's not? you can't just say that and leave. damn
[08:06] <igor> Dead-Locked: OH!  yes
[08:06] <Jeeves_Moss> rb007:  I'm googling it, but I can't find what I'm looking for.  try looking in the Ubuntu forums.  and once you staticly map things, Ubuntu should be smart enough not to overwrite it.  I stress SHOULD be.
[08:07] <igor> Dead-Locked: you should learn bash programming.. but today im on good mood ;-)
[08:07] <rb007> Jeeves_Moss: thanks, I will look at the forums
[08:07] <chuckf> Dead-Locked, off hand I'd do a spreadsheet with the first col rar, second column options, third column file name (from ls >files.txt)
[08:07] <Kayin> I have a bit of a problem, I've got a Vaio laptop with Ubuntu Edgy on it and there's a VGA port for an external monitor on the back which I plan to use to display my presentation on a big screen on Monday, but I can't get it to work. Help would be very much appreciated.
[08:07] <chuckf> Dead-Locked, then output as txt and make it an executable
[08:07] <chuckf> script
[08:07] <ardchoille> Dead-Locked: What is the rar command to rar a file?
[08:07] <Jeeves_Moss> rb007:  as for my mapping issues, as I said, the onyl reason why I did it that was was for making things simple.  I'm lazy, so I normaly just yank the card, and stuff it onto the new server.  Then network boot it.
[08:08] <Squee> I'm having trouble with setting up an encrypted filesystem (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto4).  Can anyone see anything wrong with the last 4 lines of step 6?  That is where i'm stuck.  It tells me "device-mapper: create ioctl failed: device or resource busy"
[08:08] <Dead-Locked> Trying to find the rar command
[08:08] <Dead-Locked> 1 sec
[08:08] <RkyRaccoon55> can someone please help me with my video drivers?
[08:08] <rb007> Jeeves_Moss: lazy is the way to go... no need to make more configuration work
[08:08] <igor> Dead-Locked: for FILE in PUTDIRNAMEHERE/* ; do rar a ${FILE}.rar ${FILE}; done
[08:08] <Hasrat_Usa> what's wrong with video drivers RkyRaccoon55?
[08:08] <ardchoille> Dead-Locked: Sounds like it'd be easy to do a "for" command for those 30 files.
[08:09] <gumpish> what happens if I remove the ubuntu-desktop package?
[08:09] <rb007> gumpish: why?
[08:09] <zcat[1] > gumpish: very little.
[08:09] <RkyRaccoon55> i cant get them running.  I have a radeon x1950 pro and have tried so many things to get them running and all that happens is that ubuntu wont lanuch so I gotta re-install
[08:09] <Jeeves_Moss> rb007:  the orignal idea was to network boot the servers, then have them auto add to the cluster, but I never got that far before I moved.
[08:09] <igor> ardchoille: here is the "FOR" ;-)
[08:09] <rb007> nice
[08:09] <zcat[1] > gumpish: It will make upgrades difficult in future though
[08:09] <ardchoille> igor: lol
[08:10] <gumpish> because my update alert is saying I have some VOIP client installed (ekiga) which I don't need, but apt-get says if I remove it, it'll remove ubuntu-desktop as well.
[08:10] <Dead-Locked> Igor: like this "for FILE in MEDIA/* ; do rar a ${FILE}.rar ${FILE}; done"
[08:10] <Dead-Locked> What if i'm in the directory already?
[08:10] <Hasrat_Usa> RkyRaccoon55 what's the problem actually? are you suspecting that your video card drivers aren't installed properly? didn't you boot the pc off the LiveCD?
[08:10] <igor> Dead-Locked: like this..
[08:10] <ardchoille> Dead-Locked: for i in .
[08:10] <xadloki> hello, anyone know where to calibrate a monitor in ubuntu ? I have this icc profile for this display im using and I would like to apply it... Also I use a Eye-one Colormatch device to calibrate displays ? is there anyway to use this in linux ?
[08:10] <RkyRaccoon55> i cant install my drivers, right now im running from a fresh install of ubuntu
[08:10] <igor> ardchoille: will not work AFAIK
[08:11] <RkyRaccoon55> every time i try to install them i screw something up and cant launch ubuntu and have to re-install
[08:11] <igor> ardchoille: yeah.. didn't work.
[08:11] <ardchoille> igor: Hmm.. works with ls
[08:11] <ardchoille> I thought it would work with rar
[08:11] <igor> Dead-Locked: use your imagination. ;-) Should be a good exercise 4 your new life in shell
[08:11] <Squee> I'm having trouble with setting up an encrypted filesystem (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto4).  Can anyone see anything wrong with the last 4 lines of step 6?  That is where i'm stuck.  It tells me "device-mapper: create ioctl failed: device or resource busy"
[08:11] <Jeeves_Moss> igor:  when you get a sec, can you walk rb007 through that configuration?
[08:12] <igor> ardchoille: will not work with for.. you should learn a little more about SHELL expansion.
[08:12] <halkonst> RkyRaccoon55: what drivers are you trying to install and which version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:12] <jacek> heloo all
[08:12] <Jeeves_Moss> igor:  shell rocks, and confuses most M$ guys!!
[08:12] <RkyRaccoon55> im running edgy and have tried to install both the fglrx drivers and the drivers from ati
[08:12] <RkyRaccoon55> i want any driver that will work
[08:12] <Squee> Has anyone here set up an encrypted root in ubuntu?
[08:13] <igor> Jeeves_Moss: rb007 ask again, cause read everything  before is really crazy.
[08:13] <ardchoille> Dead-Locked: try this: for i in .; do rar $i.rar $i; done
[08:13] <igor> ardchoille: will not work
[08:13] <halkonst> how did you install the fglrx? through repos or by compiling it yourself?
[08:13] <igor> ardchoille: a good thest for i in . ; do echo $i;  done
[08:13] <Jeeves_Moss> igor:  Rb007 just needs help staticly mapping a DNS server.  I can't remember how to do it.  I don't do static files on my servers.
[08:13] <ardchoille> igor: I wonder why ls works with for
[08:13] <danbar> hello
[08:13] <igor> Jeeves_Moss: /etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:14] <igor> Jeeves_Moss: or using interfaces file?
[08:14] <dafart> Hi there, is there anyone who can tell me how to mount hfs+ rw from ubuntu live cd?
[08:14] <ardchoille> igor: Why does this work? for i in .; do ls $i; done
[08:14] <Jeeves_Moss> igor:  he's on a corp network, and his laptop (I'm guessing) is defaulting to some slow DNS server.
[08:14] <igor> ardchoille: cause ls do this.
[08:14] <ardchoille> igor: Ah, ok.
[08:15] <igor> Jeeves_Moss: to overide DHCP settings try to do this.
[08:15] <halkonst> RkyRaccoon55: did you install the fglrx drivers available from the repos or did you do it by downloading them from ati's website and compiling them yourself?
[08:15] <RkyRaccoon55> i didnt dl them from ati, i used the repos
[08:15] <Jeeves_Moss> igor:  tell rb007, not me.  as I said, I have everything MAC resolved.  then the units net boot to be added to the HTTP cluster.  that way I don't have to do anything other than add the MAC to the DHCP server.
[08:16] <RkyRaccoon55> halkonst: ive googled everything i could think of to find an answer before coming here
[08:16] <igor> rb007: try to add this entry to /etc/network/interfaces:  dns-nameservers DNSIPHERE
[08:16] <RkyRaccoon55> halkonst: is it possible that ubuntu doesnt support x1950 pro?
[08:16] <halkonst> RkyRaccoon55: so I guess you've seen this guide: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide ?
[08:16] <igor> rb007: put somewhere in the interface declaration
[08:16] <xadloki> So is there no way to color profile displays in ubuntu ?
[08:17] <halkonst> RkyRaccoon55: and the one in the ubuntu documentation
[08:17] <RkyRaccoon55> halkonst: yea, ive basically memorized that page from trying it so many times
[08:17] <halkonst> RkyRaccoon55: check the release notes on ati.com to see if your card is supported
[08:18] <igor> rb007: btw if you do: echo nameserver IPHERE > /etc/resolv.conf  will do the job.. but if resolvconf package is installed.. will reset your config on reboot. (the first solution is the right one to systems with resolvconf package, as ubuntu edgy)
[08:18] <RkyRaccoon55> halkonst: i will gladly try it again.  Is there any way to keep from messing up ubuntu when i try?
[08:18] <RkyRaccoon55> halkonst: so i dont need to re-install?
[08:18] <Dead-Locked> That didnt work. Where's the best place to begin learning bash
[08:18] <igor> rb007: remeber only root can do it. If you aren't root. try su or sudo .
[08:18] <halkonst> RkyRaccoon55: ubuntu will sometimes tell you it is when in fact it is not, atleast thats true for my 9200SE
[08:18] <henriw156> I have a question could someone awenser it?
[08:18] <Alonea> When I try to shut down or restart it just goes to a black screen, but my computer does not turn off.
[08:18] <igor> Dead-Locked: worked here
[08:18] <halkonst> RkyRaccoon55: keep a backup of your working xorg.conf
[08:19] <Pici> !ask | henriw156
[08:19] <ubotu> henriw156: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:19] <dxdemetriou> for making a tap0 must be in the range from my network 192.168.1.x?
[08:19] <Assid> err.. is berly project supported in ubuntu 6.06 lts ?
[08:19] <halkonst> RkyRaccoon55: if somethings gets fucked up, boot in recovery mode and do a $ sudo rm xorg.conf && sudo cp xortg.conf.bak xorg.conf
[08:19] <ramonsa> CPUnerd I have checked www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu and hit a stumbling block in gtkpod: '/media/iPod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted.
[08:19] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: just did a search on ubuntu forums, seen your post an countless more, seems to be a pretty widespread problem trying to get that card to work.
[08:19] <Alonea> I think this started after I got my video card working (the fglrx how to for ati cards so you can have 3d acceleration)
[08:20] <henriw156> Pici: when i turn off my PC the ubuntu logo is corrupted but when i turn on the PC its fine. Is this normal?
[08:20] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: yea, i noticed that too
[08:20] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: did you read thru all the threads on the ubuntu forums, there is a couple that claim to have got it working do the xorg.conf manually
[08:20] <igor> Dead-Locked: for x in *; do rar a ${x}.rar $x ; done (created 40 rar files with FILENAME.rar extension on my dir)
[08:20] <Pici> henriw156: Can you use any of the ttys when you are using your computer (ctrl-alt-f1)? Or do they look all corrupted, (ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to XWindows)?
[08:21] <henriw156> Pici:??????
[08:21] <gizmo_the_great1> Hi. I am having trouble using configure, make and install. Configure goes OK, but make fails. It gives the following putput : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7074/ Can anyone help me?
[08:21] <ardchoille> Dead-Locked: You got that rar issue sorted?
[08:21] <henriw156> Pici: im on my pc with ubuntu on it
[08:21] <Pici> henriw156: Yes, I realize that.
[08:21] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: what are you making?
[08:21] <henriw156> Pici: how did you know?
[08:22] <igor> ardchoille: isn't a rar issue..
[08:22] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: the name of the app you mean?
[08:22] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: thanks ill look for that one, ive read most of them
[08:22] <JulioB> hey ya'll know where to get the ntfs-3g 1.0 packages?
[08:22] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: maybe ;-)
[08:22] <Pici> henriw156: I'm assuming.  Do you get corrupted graphics when you press ctrl-alt-f1?
[08:22] <valehru> ok, i have mpd installed on a server.  I can access the mpd server from my laptop and I can control it.  Is there anyway for me to stream this audio onto my laptop as currently it only plays from the servers speakers....
[08:22] <Dead-Locked> That'd probaly work
[08:22] <RkyRaccoon55> halkonst: thanks thats gonna save me some time
[08:22] <ardchoille> igor: What was it? He wanted to rar 30 files each in its own rar
[08:22] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: http://www.afflib.org/
[08:22] <henriw156> wait
[08:22] <Dead-Locked> if i had a non-trail version of rar
[08:22] <Dead-Locked> >.<
[08:22] <Dead-Locked> It started to work. It looks like
[08:22] <ardchoille> Dead-Locked: lol
[08:23] <igor> ardchoille: I have sent him the command line to do it.. worked here..
[08:23] <alex_spaz> hello
[08:23] <richdurhm> can anyone help?
[08:23] <ardchoille> igor: Oh, ok.. thanks for helping him with it :)
[08:23] <Dead-Locked> for x in *; do rar a ${x}.rar $x ; done <----That did look like it ould work.
[08:23] <Dead-Locked> I just have to buy rar
[08:23] <pinkisntwell> i have a friend who's 56k modem worked with previous versions of ubuntu but it doesn't work with the latest... is it possible? the modem is external and was supported out of the box in previous versions
[08:23] <ramonsa> CPUnerd: I have checked www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu and hit a stumbling block in gtkpod: '/media/iPod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not exist. Import aborted
[08:23] <alex_spaz> i need help configuring my trident card
[08:23] <Dead-Locked> :-D
[08:23] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: someone said this worked.. look at this: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[08:23] <gizmo_the_great1> igor47: does that give you any ideas?
[08:23] <igor> Dead-Locked: both shoul work... you have just to learn what this line mean.
[08:24] <Alonea> anyone have any idea what I can do to get my computer to shut down without me having to turn it off by holding my power button down?
[08:24] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: Method 2
[08:24] <chuckf> Dead-Locked, what is the reason that it must be rar'd?
[08:24] <gizmo_the_great1> Alonea: sudo shutdown -h now
[08:24] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: you have to install curl and expat dev packages
[08:24] <alex_spaz> alonea are you using visual interface?
[08:24] <Alonea> that works, but how do I shut down with the logout button like I did before? It used to work.
[08:24] <gizmo_the_great1> igor47: cool. how did you know that?
[08:25] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: haha im reading the same thread right now
[08:25] <Alonea> (I have KDE)
[08:25] <igor> gizmo_the_great1:  libexpat1-dev  libcurl3-dev
[08:25] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: good luck with it
[08:25] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: Cause I read the command output.
[08:25] <Enselic``> Dead-Locked: ruby -e 'Dir.foreach( "." ) { |file| puts `cat #{file}` if // =~ file }'
[08:25] <ricmik> Hello! I'm using Kubuntu on a laptop.. Is there any way I can set the speed on the processor (centrino)? I can't find any tool?
[08:25] <igor> Enselic``: good ;-)
[08:25] <alex_spaz> i need help configuring my trident card
[08:25] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: thanks, ive tried this method before but maybe i did something wrong
[08:25] <alex_spaz> i need help configuring my trident card
[08:25] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: ill try again
[08:25] <gizmo_the_great1> igor47: which lines matey?
[08:25] <igor> alex_spaz: trident?
[08:25] <alex_spaz> hi igor
[08:25] <igor> alex_spaz: which one?
[08:25] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: and again
[08:26] <Enselic``> Dead-Locked: replace // with a regexp that matches the filesnames, and replace cat with the rar command
[08:26] <alex_spaz> yes trident micro systems
[08:26] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: appears there is still some issues .. even with that.. maybe they wont plague you though
[08:26] <Squee_> I'm trying to run dm-setup but i eep getting "device-mapper: create ioctl failed: Device or resource busy"  Can anyone help me with this?
[08:26] <alex_spaz> cybealladin
[08:26] <Assid> err.. should  i update from 6.06lts to edgy ?
[08:26] <Assid> dapper ->edgy
[08:26] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: as long as the driver installs ill be happy
[08:26] <igor> Enselic``: he didn't know the difference beetween * and dir/* how did he know about REGEXP?
[08:26] <alex_spaz> cyberalladin p-4
[08:26] <igor> Enselic``: are you joking, right?
[08:26] <Enselic``> igor: well I guess he could skip it and just rar .. :P
[08:26] <igor> alex_spaz: never configured one.. its new?
[08:26] <henriw156> Pici: umm why did you make me do that???
[08:27] <alex_spaz> its old
[08:27] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: that will teach you to buy top tier video cards :)
[08:27] <igor> Enselic``: I have sent him a bash "for each" line ;-)
[08:27] <Pici> henriw156: Make you do what?
[08:27] <alex_spaz> im on a satellite a20
[08:27] <igor> Enselic``: i dont know if he has sucess using it ;-)
[08:27] <gizmo_the_great1> igor47: thanks for your help
[08:27] <Pici> henriw156: I asked if you got screen corruption in a tty session and gave you instuctions on how to get back to xwindows
[08:27] <Enselic``> Dead-Locked: :D    not even I know bash
[08:27] <alex_spaz> i need to turn on 3d acceleration
[08:27] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: be welcome
[08:27] <alex_spaz> i need to turn on 3d acceleration
[08:27] <Enselic``> Dead-Locked: I do well with ruby
[08:27] <Dead-Locked> LoL.
[08:27] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: haha yea
[08:27] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: BTW.. s3_glue.cpp:15:23: error: curl/curl.h: No such file or directory
[08:27] <igor> s3_glue.cpp:18:19: error: expat.h: No such file or directory
[08:27] <henriw156> Pici: i din`t get the instructions part
[08:27] <Enselic``> igor: I mean
[08:28] <Dead-Locked> It didnt work because of spaces? Maybe?
[08:28] <Enselic``> igor: wrote Deadlock
[08:28] <Dead-Locked> Or is it because the filenames are to long
[08:28] <Pici> henriw156: Oh, I'm sorry then.  did you encounter screen corruption?
[08:28] <Enselic``> Dead-Locked: I will guide you, private chat?
[08:28] <henriw156> no
[08:28] <Dead-Locked> SWEET
[08:28] <Dead-Locked> Sure
[08:28] <alex_spaz> i need to turn on 3d acceleration
[08:28] <igor> Dead-Locked: no.. your filenames aren't to long
[08:28] <Enselic``> Dead-Locked: started it
[08:28] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: thanks. but how did you know, from that, that I needed libexpat1-dev and the other one specifically?
[08:28] <RkyRaccoon55> halkonst: it wont let me back up my xorg.conf...its read only
[08:28] <ardchoille> Enselic``: You aren't identified, Dead-Locked is
[08:29] <henriw156> Pici: i just got a TTY screen and put my user and pass then it became a full screen Terminal
[08:29] <Enselic``> Dead-Locked: hang on
[08:29] <Squee_> I'm trying to run dm-setup but i eep getting "device-mapper: create ioctl failed: Device or resource busy"  Can anyone help me with this?
[08:29] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: cause I know about debian packaging policies.. isn't so hard.. CURL.h .. apt-cache search curl dev
[08:29] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: sudo
[08:29] <halkonst> RkyRaccoon55: type like this: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[08:29] <Enselic> Dead-Locked: see me now?
[08:29] <Dead-Locked> http://www.pastebin.ca/367990
[08:29] <JONES3700> STILL stuck on 800x600 res w/ nvidia drivers, nothing seems to help
[08:30] <Dead-Locked> I get that igor
[08:30] <Pici> henriw156: hmm.. I'm not sure what the issue is then.  As long as the your computer works okay (besisdes the logo corruption) I wouldnt worry about it.  Technically, I was thinking that you had a framebuffer issue, which can cause screen corruption in the TTY (fullscreen terminal) sessions as well.
[08:30] <henriw156> Pici: nope the PC work ecelent
[08:30] <cables> !resolution | JONES3700, have you tried this
[08:30] <ubotu> JONES3700, have you tried this: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:30] <henriw156> oops
[08:30] <aflack> Anyone know what I/O Error: on dm-2, logical block error: on 2 / 0 / and 1 is?
[08:31] <mau> has anybody ever had the BIOS hang on on you?
[08:31] <aflack> Nope
[08:31] <mau> my new ubuntu box won't boot into the kernel
[08:31] <igor> wow..
[08:31] <quaal> anyone use gtkpod?
[08:31] <igor> files with # in name
[08:31] <mau> just hangs on the BIOS
[08:32] <Squee_> I'm trying to run dm-setup but i eep getting "device-mapper: create ioctl failed: Device or resource busy"  Can anyone help me with this?
[08:32] <igor> Dead-Locked: files with # in name.. change this.. its UGLY, and BAD!
[08:32] <henriw156> Pici: but could you help install java
[08:32] <igor> btw you can "fix" this adding " "
[08:32] <igor> you will have a little problem with files with SPACES
[08:32] <aflack> It goes through logical block errors, after mounting root, and going through the setup.
[08:33] <aflack> And then boots normally.
[08:33] <Dead-Locked> Igor what about spaces AND # :-)
[08:33] <igor> for FILE in *; do rar a "${FILE}.rar" "${FILE}; done
[08:33] <henriw156> Can someone help me install JAVa
[08:34] <kane77> henriw156, what java you need? jdk or jre?
[08:34] <kelsin> henriw156: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[08:34] <igor> Dead-Locked: Bash will think that they are different files. A file called "beautiful image from my work.jpg" will be read as: beutiful (file 1)  image (file 2) from (file 3)  my (file 4) work.jpg (file 5)
[08:34] <Squee_> I'm trying to run dm-setup but i eep getting "device-mapper: create ioctl failed: Device or resource busy"  Can anyone help me with this?
[08:34] <igor> Dead-Locked: # are shell comments.
[08:34] <gizmo_the_great1> igor47: sorry dude - I am back again! More errors! I wonder if you could help again? No worries if not.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7077/
[08:35] <henriw156> kene77: i need the one to run java apps
[08:35] <Pici> !java
[08:35] <alex_spaz> can some one help me turn on 3d acceleration !
[08:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:35] <alex_spaz> can some one help me turn on 3d acceleration !
[08:35] <henriw156> thanks
[08:36] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: seem like a makefile problem: make[2] : *** No rule to make target `aftest.o', needed by `aftest'. Stop.
[08:36] <halkonst> I'm trying to get fglrx working with a 9200SE on feisty (kernel 2.6.20-8-generic), I installed the 8.28.8 version of fglrx because that is the latest version supported by my video card. It's working ok but I have no DRI and a few errors in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log. According to that log my Kernel Module Version is 8.33.8 which does *not* match my driver which is of version 8.28.8. Does anyone know how replace the Kernel Module?
[08:36] <kane77> henriw156, then you'll do fine with jre
[08:36] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: OK. Thanks. I will give up on it then. As long as I know it's not me making the mistake. Thanks again
[08:36] <alex_spaz> can some one help me turn on 3d acceleration !
[08:36] <Squee_> I'm trying to run dm-setup but i eep getting "device-mapper: create ioctl failed: Device or resource busy"  Can anyone help me with this?
[08:36] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: why you didn't install the package? aptitude install afflib?
[08:37] <royel> Squee_: what is dm-setup?
[08:37] <igor> (without last quotation mark)
[08:37] <alex_spaz> can some one help me turn on 3d acceleration !
[08:37] <Pici> alex_spaz: Explain your situation, and perhaps someone will help you.
[08:37] <alex_spaz> can some one help me turn on 3d acceleration !
[08:37] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: I dont think it is a package. Its not 'part' of Ubuntu
[08:37] <alex_spaz> ok
[08:37] <Pici> !repeat | alex_spaz
[08:37] <ubotu> alex_spaz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:37] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: is part of mine
[08:37] <SPACE_NINJA> HI!
[08:37] <Squee_> royel: it is for setting up an encrypted filesystem
[08:37] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: lol - I will go and see!
[08:37] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: universe repository
[08:37] <SPACE_NINJA> I was wondering if I could get the latest version of ubuntu when I use and old installation CD.
[08:37] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: add it 2 your sources.list
[08:38] <royel> Squee_: I'm no expert there, but it looks to me like your trying to change somethign that is mounted.. perhaps you should try umount the device first
[08:38] <Alonea> alex_spaz: there is a how to somewhere. If you get a black screen trying it the automatic way, then do it the manual way.
[08:38] <igor> SPACE_NINJA: yes you can.. but download the newest version. will be easier, better and smoother
[08:38] <Squee_> royel: i thought about that but I just wiped the drives so I'm not sure how that works
[08:38] <alex_spaz> got a card that supports 3d but seems that 3d acceleration if turned off can someone help me utrn it on
[08:38] <SPACE_NINJA> but I don't have the cd
[08:38] <Squee_> is there a way i can see all places a device is mounted?
[08:38] <SPACE_NINJA> no cd
[08:38] <igor> SPACE_NINJA: download it.
[08:38] <SPACE_NINJA> empty
[08:38] <royel> Squee_: sudo mount
[08:39] <cables> Where are my screensaver hacks stored?
[08:39] <igor> SPACE_NINJA: with less than 1 us$ you can get one near your home..
[08:39] <igor> SPACE_NINJA: btw. you can . ;-)
[08:39] <Squee_> royel: yea they aren't mounted
[08:40] <royel> Squee_: whats the exact command your giving?
[08:40] <Alonea> alex_spaz: whats your card?
[08:40] <SPACE_NINJA> yes but it's too late
[08:40] <Squee_> echo "0 `blockdev --getsize /dev/sda2` crypt aec-cbc-essiv:sha256 $SWAPKEY 0 /dev/sda2 0" |dmsetup create swap
[08:40] <igor> SPACE_NINJA: here where I live isn't ;-)
[08:40] <SPACE_NINJA> hehe I live in a smal town in sweden so :)
[08:40] <halkonst> Does anyone know how to remove a Kernel Module and replace it with a similar module of an earlier version?
[08:40] <SPACE_NINJA> l
[08:41] <JONES3700> eh finally got it working, reconfigured xorg.conf once more, rebooted... and everything is fine now
[08:41] <alex_spaz> my card is a trident cyberaladdin p-4
[08:41] <royel> Squee_: you try to mount it as well?
[08:42] <royel> Squee_: are you 'root' user?
[08:42] <cables> Hey, does anyone know where my screensaver hacks are stored?
[08:42] <Alonea> alex_spaz: never even heard of that company. If it was nvidia or ati, I might be able to help you. Sorry. Good luck
[08:43] <kane77> !iso
[08:43] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[08:43] <linxeh> alex_spaz: i didn't realise trident were still around :)
[08:43] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: forgive me. I have my sources.list open. But I am trying to work out (having never done it) what I am supposed to add to it to get afflib in there using the universe repo?
[08:43] <linxeh> Alonea: trident are from days gone by :)
[08:44] <Alonea> linxeh: ah, that sounds about right. Would those cards even be supported any more? I really would not know.
[08:44] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: somewhere there is a commented line talking about universe. uncoment it. You can also use synaptic to do this (better 4 you AFAIK)
[08:44] <alex_spaz> its uses the trident driver for ubuntu
[08:45] <linxeh> Alonea: its a current card though this time
[08:45] <orangefly> how do i do the cube thing with beryl....???....
[08:45] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: this is my sources.list : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7078/
[08:45] <linxeh> orangefly: render 4 desktops, project them onto a cube, zoom out, then rotate the virtual cube, rendering the rotation to the screen
[08:46] <Alonea> linxeh: ah. well, I hope he figures it out.
[08:46] <kane77> ehm.. a basic question.. How do I "cd" into a directory that has spaces in name?
[08:46] <linxeh> kane77: cd "put quotes around the directory"
[08:46] <Ribs> cd "quote it"
[08:47] <Pici> kane77: escape the spaces with \
[08:47] <linxeh> kane77: or cd put\ a\ slash\ in\ front\ of\ spaces
[08:47] <barktpolar> Hello, Does Ubuntu Dapper Drake atuomatically detect Wireless Adapters for when the system is on?
[08:47] <base_slash> hello i need help
[08:47] <base_slash> hello?
[08:47] <linxeh> base_slash: ask away
[08:47] <linxeh> you dont need to ask to ask
[08:47] <kane77> linxeh, Pici thx
[08:47] <clearzen> barktpolar:Sometimes not always
[08:47] <orangefly> ok....nevermind....no idea what you mean by projecting onto a cube and rendering....
[08:48] <linxeh> alex_spaz: what's the problem with your card ?
[08:48] <base_slash> ok i am having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop
[08:48] <kelsin> orangefly: beryl shoudl install with it's settings manager, you can look up there what the keybindings are, or set them yourself
[08:48] <linxeh> orangefly: 3d projection
[08:48] <barktpolar> OK, because as soon as I buy one, I was going to use Wi-Fi on Ubuntu
[08:48] <Ribs> orangefly, Is beryl running now?
[08:48] <orangefly> yes it's working fine....
[08:48] <Ribs> orangefly, If so, just Ctrl+Alt, click (and hold) the mouse on the desktop, and move the mouse around
[08:48] <linxeh> orangefly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_computer_graphics#Projection
[08:48] <SPACE_NINJA> I want to make programs, I tried qt but what do I have to program if I use ubuntu?
[08:48] <orangefly> going from desktop to desktop it does that effect....
[08:49] <yotux> can any one offer some advice on efax and how to set it up?
[08:49] <clearzen> barktpolar:It depends on the chip set. If I where you I would find a list of supported cards before you bought something
[08:49] <kelsin> SPACE_NINJA: you can use whatever you want. Ubuntu by default uses Gnome as a desktop which uses GTK as a gui toolkit
[08:49] <SPACE_NINJA> is GTK easy to learn?
[08:49] <orangefly> cool....thanks....
[08:49] <ana_gregal> ola carlos
[08:49] <barktpolar> !ubotu Dapper to Edgy
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dapper to edgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <Dead-Locked> Where's a good bash scripting guide/wiki/tutorial :-)
[08:49] <Pici> !upgrade | barktpolar
[08:49] <ubotu> barktpolar: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:50] <Pici> Dead-Locked: abs-guide
[08:50] <carlos> ana_gregal: hola
[08:50] <base_slash> can any one recomendme a proxy
[08:50] <SPACE_NINJA> kelsin, is it c or c++?
[08:50] <kelsin> SPACE_NINJA: that's a very relative question, it's C, but their are bindings for python, ruby, lisp, java you-name-it
[08:50] <Dead-Locked> abs-guide.com?
[08:50] <barktpolar> Is there a way to plug-in my mom's laptop to my PC that was Ubuntu and transfer files?
[08:50] <Assid> is there a way for me to change the number of simultanous downloads used when packages are updated ?
[08:50] <Pici> Dead-Locked: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[08:50] <SPACE_NINJA> kelsin, so it doens't use classes?
[08:50] <kane77> oh well.. I have another question... I have a few VTC videos that are in .mov.. but on some of them the sound is not working.. when I run them in mplayer it plays even sound but its _VERY_ choppy... any way to play them?
[08:50] <barktpolar> as in with a ehternet cord
[08:51] <gizmo_the_great1> How do I edit sources.list using Synaptic?
[08:51] <Dead-Locked> I need beginer bas-scripting first!
[08:51] <kelsin> SPACE_NINJA: you can find this stuff out on your own, just use google and goto the gtk homepage, base GTK is in C so of course no classes, the other language bindings can use classes
[08:51] <Pici> Dead-Locked: "This tutorial assumes no previous knowledge of scripting or programming"
[08:51] <Dead-Locked> Pici: Thanks!
[08:51] <SPACE_NINJA> ok thanks kelsin
[08:51] <dyrne> barktpolar: be alot easier if you had a router or something
[08:52] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: I dont know. I dont use synaptic. But i know that it does. Youre using dapper. Im using edgy . I dont know if dapper has afflib.
[08:52] <barktpolar> But all I have is a Ethernet Plug and a cord on my PC
[08:52] <Assid> hello?
[08:52] <Assid> is this thing on?
[08:52] <barktpolar> I'm using my Mom's Laptop to talk to you
[08:52] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: that might be it. BTW - how did you know I using Dapper?
[08:52] <Pici> Assid: It appears so
[08:52] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: cause im a god!
[08:52] <uguntuvbox> hello someone can compile cxtest on ubuntu?
[08:52] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: im the big and evil hacker ;-)
[08:52] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: you sure appear to know what's what :-)
[08:53] <uguntuvbox> hola alguien a podido compilar cxtest en ubuntu?
[08:53] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: and its written your source.list
[08:53] <Pici> !es | uguntuvbox
[08:53] <ubotu> uguntuvbox: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:53] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: of course ;-)
[08:53] <Assid> Pici: any idea on how to make package updates run more than 2 simultanous downloads?
[08:53] <barktpolar> I would have did it using a flash drive, but it fried on me
[08:53] <Assid> i have 2 different isps.. and my badnwith is free during certain hours only
[08:53] <Pici> Assid: Hm.  Good question
[08:53] <Assid> so i wanna get this done as fast as i can
[08:53] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: could you not copy and paste your afflib entry from your sources.list so that I can paste it into mine?
[08:54] <javaJake> Hello everyone
[08:54] <RkyRaccoon55> who was helping me earlier?
[08:54] <javaJake> I'm in apt-get horror.
[08:54] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: couple of us were
[08:54] <kane77> javaJake, what's scaring you?
[08:54] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: you were the one i was looking for
[08:54] <javaJake> kane77, every time I try to use apt-get, it tells me to fix broken dependancies.
[08:54] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: what you come up with?
[08:55] <Pici> Assid: I'm not sure of a way
[08:55] <kane77> javaJake, well fix them.. :) (apt-get install -f)
[08:55] <javaJake> kane77, I can't, however, because it crashes when it tries to fix:
[08:55] <javaJake> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libavahi-compat-libdnssd1_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.4_i386.deb (--unpack):
[08:55] <javaJake>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdns_sd.so.1', which is also in package bonjour
[08:55] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: it says "can't open ati-driver-installer-8.34.8-x86.x86_64.run
[08:55] <richdurhm> rky whats wron with ur ati?
[08:55] <uguntuvbox> !es | abo
[08:55] <ubotu> abo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:55] <javaJake> kane77, I can't do a thing. Can't fix. Cant remove. Can't install
[08:55] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: did you set it executable?
[08:55] <richdurhm> only view 600x800
[08:56] <clearzen>  javaJake: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:56] <leobard> hi, I need to build a kernel to build a driver. I miss the folder /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-368/build, how to compile just to get this folder?
[08:56] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: no, how?
[08:56] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: try: sudo chmod +x ati-dri....etc :)
[08:56] <abo> uguntuvbox, wh?
[08:56] <javaJake> clearzen, wow, waddyaknow, it's moving
[08:56] <uguntuvbox> sorry is a  probe xd
[08:56] <clearzen>  javaJake: cool, that usually works for me
[08:57] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: I use edgy. It will mess up all your system.. Are you running in a fresh new installation? if so.. install edgy
[08:57] <clearzen>  javaJake: I've broke apt a few times
[08:57] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: if not. Try to upgrade it.
[08:57] <javaJake> clearzen, yea, thanks
[08:57] <javaJake> TTYL everyone
[08:57] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: in ubuntu wiki explain about how to do it. I really dont know step by step
[08:57] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: Its an establish Dapper. Lots of config settings etc. So I will leave it. thanks for your help.
[08:58] <barktpolar> !ubotu PC to PC
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pc to pc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: try backports.
[08:58] <shawarma> How do I mount a partition on an internal SATA disk without using the terminal? Is that even possible?
[08:58] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: upgrading will keep your settings.
[08:58] <igor> shawarma: use gnome mount applet
[08:59] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: it now says "no such file or directory" i did dl it, i can see it on my desktop
[08:59] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ check here
[08:59] <shawarma> igor: Is it installed by default?
[08:59] <igor> shawarma: I think so.
[08:59] <igor> shawarma: yes it's
[08:59] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: lol, try doubleclicking on it?
[08:59] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: edgy only ;-P
[08:59] <shawarma> igor: Alright. Can it add stuff to fstab as well?
[09:00] <igor> gizmo_the_great1:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=afflib&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[09:00] <igor> shawarma: no
[09:00] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: "could not open file /home/..."
[09:00] <igor> shawarma: fstab is a admin stuff. do it using command line
[09:00] <clearzen> Do all kernel have support for dual processors?
[09:00] <igor> clearzen: all SMP kernel
[09:00] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: thanks. I was looking in the Dapper packages and it was returning nothing
[09:00] <sesammases> how can I send in data to the hardware comp. database?
[09:00] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: yeah :-/ unfortunely
[09:01] <shawarma> igor: Alright.
[09:01] <rafal_> ?
[09:01] <Mattias> !record screen
[09:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about record screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:01] <gizmo_the_great1> igor: no bother. I've learnt a bit :-)
[09:01] <igor> gizmo_the_great1: no problem. be welcome
[09:01] <kevin> how do I upgrade to windows?
[09:01] <clearzen>  igor: when I installed the nvidia drivers it moved me to a generic 386 kernel. Does that mean the second processor is not being used?
[09:01] <Mattias> anyone know how to record screen ? make movies to show beryl / gimmie and stuff
[09:01] <igor> kevin: are you serious?
[09:01] <richdurhm> lol kevin
[09:01] <kevin> jk :)
[09:01] <richdurhm> lol
[09:01] <freezey> whats the package for apache2 to run the mysql-mod
[09:01] <igor> clearzen: maybe.. cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:01] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: sorry had a phone call
[09:01] <sesammases> on booting in VirtualPC 2004 I got a message, but now running "live" I didn't get that box and I can't find it in any menues.
[09:01] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: its ok
[09:02] <kane77> how do I share files between vmware machine and my desktop?? (ubuntu on desktop and for instance windows on vmware...)
[09:02] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: did you get the last thing i sent?
[09:02] <igor> clearzen: check if there is 2 processors 0 and 1 , if not.. your cpu is alone ;-)
[09:02] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: when you do this command: chmod +x .. make sure it's: chmod +x /home/user/Desktop/filename
[09:02] <RkyRaccoon55> oh
[09:02] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: err sudo
[09:03] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: oh that makes sense
[09:03] <igor> royel: why not : right click->propperties->permissions
[09:03] <barktpolar> and how do I connect Ubuntu to a Windows Machine?
[09:03] <igor> royel: user world ;-)
[09:03] <royel> igor: cause I'm a console noob, an forget teh gui world you guys live in
[09:03] <igor> royel: then check EXECUTE box.
[09:03] <clearzen> igor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7080/
[09:04] <igor> royel: ubuntu is about a good gui.
[09:04] <joppe> Hey everyone
[09:04] <igor> royel: BTW i only use chmod and setfacl commands ;-)
[09:04] <royel> igor: but I grew up with black an white :)
[09:04] <igor> royel: me too.
[09:04] <igor> royel: since tk85
[09:04] <igor> clearzen: yeah.. one cpu only.
[09:04] <oslo> soir
[09:04] <oslo> j'ai mont un nouveau dd en ext3 mais il appartient a root & je ne peux ecrire dessus ? cmt changer ca??
[09:05] <Pici> !fr | oslo
[09:05] <ubotu> oslo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:05] <joerack> anybody using imaging software for linux (like true image) ?
[09:05] <clearzen> igor:that's what I thought. At least I know what to look for to know now.
[09:05] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: still no such file or directory
[09:05] <barktpolar> !ubotu network
[09:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:05] <igor> clearzen: i really dont know if there is a SMP nvidia compliance kernel. I hate closed source drivers.. But what can we do right now?
[09:06] <clearzen> igor: I'm just going to roll my own kernel. Thanks though.
[09:06] <KirG0FF> Nobody likes closed-source driver, however we've got to deal with them :(
[09:06] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: lets try to do it the way igor suggested.. right click it > properties >permissions, then place a check in teh Execute box
[09:06] <HymnToLife> igor, what was that supposed to mean ? The nvidia kernel module will work on a smp kernel too
[09:06] <Phocean> hi
[09:06] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: did it when he said it
[09:07] <igor> clearzen: good luck and use kernel-package
[09:07] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: still "cant open..."
[09:07] <clearzen> igor: I use git for kernels
[09:07] <igor> HymnToLife: sure it will.. but there isn't one ready to roll.
[09:07] <cables> How can I remove a network from NetworkManager? I don't seem to be able to delete a folder in gconf.
[09:07] <clearzen> to get the needed source and then automake usually
[09:07] <phaded> what's the default xchat install folder
[09:07] <Enselic> igor: here's the solution:      ruby -e 'Dir.foreach( "." ) { |file| puts `rar a "#{file}.rar" "#{file}"` if /\w/ =~ file }'
[09:07] <HymnToLife> yay
[09:07] <Enselic> igor: handles spaces and #
[09:07] <HymnToLife> !netsplit
[09:07] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[09:07] <Assid> hehe
[09:07] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: in your console: cd /home/yourusername/Desktop "enter" then: ls -l
[09:08] <igor> Enselic: your command line created a netsplit
[09:08] <joerack> help the net is going to split me
[09:08] <phaded> lol
[09:08] <Assid> lol
[09:08] <LinTux> How can I adjust the screen resolution in KDE?
[09:08] <royel> !paste | RkyRaccoon55
[09:08] <Enselic> igor: :D
[09:08] <ubotu> RkyRaccoon55: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:08] <igor> Enselic: undo it ;-)
[09:08] <phaded> lintux: it's under system settings
[09:08] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: send me the paste of ls -l
[09:08] <KirG0FF> BTW, has anybody updated proprietary ATI to 8.34.8 ?
[09:08] <Assid> err.. can i change the number of simultanous downloads used in apt/package updates?
[09:09] <igor> Enselic: I will save in my good scripts dir..
[09:09] <LinTux> phaded: I can find it here, I just installed KDE via apt-get, might something be missing
[09:09] <Ruidoso_Silencio> hello. Is there a way to decompress .ace files??
[09:09] <igor> Enselic: to do the same task I do shell black magic with readline and ls -1 *
[09:10] <joerack> guys , can you recommend me some imaging software please?
[09:10] <Enselic> joerack: GIMP
[09:10] <joerack> i mean to make ghost images of the O.S
[09:10] <igor> Enselic: fast as a netsplit ..
[09:10] <igor> LOL!!!!
[09:10] <Enselic> igor: I'm a gimper, what can I do ;)
[09:11] <Enselic> igor: it's like autoreply
[09:11] <KirG0FF> I had trouble resuming from sleep mode with the previous version. I could only see the blank screen after resuming from sleep. ATI claimed they have fixed that issue, but I'm still facing the problem :(
[09:11] <igor> joerack: there is a good GIMP filter to do ghost images ;-) maybe blur should help you
[09:11] <igor> joerack: ;-)
[09:11] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7081/
[09:11] <joerack> meh
[09:11] <igor> joerack: systemimager
[09:11] <Enselic> joerack: what's a ghostfilter?
[09:12] <LinTux> I just used sudo apt-get install kde, is something missing, is that why I can't adjust the screen res?
[09:12] <joerack> thx igor
[09:12] <igor> joerack: mondo backup
[09:12] <igor> joerack: mondo - powerful disaster recovery suite (i use this one)
[09:13] <Ruidoso_Silencio> hello. Is there a way to decompress .ace files??
[09:13] <abarbaccia> hello all - what does "parser not found for codec" mean?
[09:13] <igor> Enselic: a gimp filter to make images seems like ghosts..
[09:13] <abarbaccia> wrong channel
[09:13] <abarbaccia> sorry
[09:13] <igor> Enselic: blurred and translucent.
[09:13] <igor> hi all!
[09:13] <yettenet> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[09:13] <Ruidoso_Silencio> flood!
[09:13] <joerack> ok
[09:13] <Ruidoso_Silencio> :-S
[09:13] <igor> welcome back
[09:13] <LinTux> how can i make sure i have the complete kde system installed via terminal
[09:14] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: anything?
[09:14] <jeeves_Moss> lol, flood is defintyl the word for it!!
[09:14] <Ruidoso_Silencio> hello. Is there a way to decompress .ace files??
[09:14] <Enselic> LinTux: sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[09:14] <Pici> !ace
[09:14] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[09:14] <Enselic> LinTux: warning, creates instability sometimes
[09:14] <PriceChild> !netsplit
[09:14] <joerack> igor: can I create local images to with mondo?
[09:14] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[09:14] <igor> LinTux: df -h (your /usr will have more than 24G used ;-) (that was a joke)
[09:14] <igor> joerack: yes you can.
[09:14] <joerack> cool thx
[09:14] <Ruidoso_Silencio> Thanx Pici
[09:15] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: sorry, was on phone again.. looking now
[09:15] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: its cool
[09:15] <igor> Enselic: LinTux, dpkg -l kubuntu-desktop fills better ;-)
[09:15] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: you using the livecd?
[09:15] <LinTux> igor: I have installed KDE not Kubuntu, for some reason I cannot stabalise the video card in Kubuntu
[09:15] <igor> Enselic: he want to check. not install ;-)
[09:16] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: no its installed
[09:16] <igor> LinTux: video drivers are a Xserver problem. not KDE
[09:16] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: you sure that downloaded to your Desktop?
[09:16] <igor> LinTux: try a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:16] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: the ati driver?
[09:16] <igor> then type X in your terminal
[09:16] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: yes
[09:16] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: im looking at it right now
[09:17] <jeeves_Moss> ok, DRIP, anyone use it?  I need some help
[09:17] <Kilroo> Ah, here we go. I finally found a page that explains that my wireless card is one of two listed as "red." Joy.
[09:17] <igor> if a "grey" windows with a X appear. your xserver its ok. try /etc/init.d/kdm restar
[09:17] <igor> if a "grey" windows with a X appear. your xserver its ok. try /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[09:17] <b0ri5> I need to install drivers for Nvidia graphics card. Can you please tell me step by step? I have already tried several times, and am a Linux newbie.
[09:17] <James2432> I have a question, does the UBUNTU-SERVER come with an ANSI C compiler to be used in like make configs?
[09:17] <igor> if didn't start its a problem with kdm. Is it isntalled?
[09:17] <igor> James2432: no.. install it. aptitude install gcc libc6-dev
[09:17] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: well, I dont know what to say, according to what you pasted me, theres nothing on your desktop except for Examples
[09:18] <igor> I will return to my job ;-) end of support today ;-)
[09:18] <uFo-Z> hi. does anybody knows where the license agreement for java is stored ? i have to find it and delete it
[09:18] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: wait what exactly do i paste into console?
[09:18] <Hasrat_Usa> b0r15 use the 'envy' script. it would automatically do everything required to install the correct driver for your nvidia
[09:18] <b0ri5> how?
[09:18] <Hasrat_Usa> you wanna do it now b0r15?
[09:18] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: you pasted what I wanted to see.. it's showing the contents of whats on your Desktop
[09:18] <b0ri5> yeah
[09:18] <Hasrat_Usa> ok hold on a second
[09:18] <Hasrat_Usa> what card do you got?
[09:18] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: im looking at it right now
[09:19] <shining> uFo-Z: whyN
[09:19] <b0ri5> Nvidia MX 400
[09:19] <Hasrat_Usa> good
[09:19] <LinTux> igor: got it thanks m8
[09:19] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: could it be that the mozilla downloader messed up the dl?
[09:19] <igor> LinTux: be welcome
[09:19] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: right click it an properties, see what it shows for /location:
[09:20] <Hasrat_Usa> b0r15 type exactly what i'm telling you to type in your terminal from now on
[09:20] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: /home/sean/desktop
[09:20] <joerack> ugh mondo backup doesn't include ubuntu :(
[09:20] <joerack> is debian ok?
[09:20] <igor> RkyRaccoon55: Desktop (capital D)
[09:20] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: yea
[09:20] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: lower case D?
[09:20] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: capital
[09:20] <igor> joerack: use DEBIAN. is the same think
[09:20] <igor> joerack: use DEBIAN. is the same thing ;-(
[09:20] <Hasrat_Usa> wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[09:20] <joerack> kk cool
[09:20] <Hasrat_Usa> by the way which ubuntu are you on?
[09:21] <b0ri5> I think 6.06-the one on the free CD
[09:21] <Hasrat_Usa> okay type that
[09:21] <royel> igor: you catching any of this...
[09:21] <Hasrat_Usa> wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[09:21] <jeeves_Moss> igor:  can you give me a hand with this software?
[09:21] <Hasrat_Usa> tell me whatt you see
[09:21] <Hasrat_Usa> *what
[09:21] <igor> jeeves_Moss: which one?
[09:21] <b0ri5> it says internal server error
[09:21] <jeeves_Moss> igor: drip
[09:21] <igor> royel: im trying to work ;-)
[09:21] <igor> jeeves_Moss: what kind of help?
[09:21] <Hasrat_Usa> what the hell? ok hold on a second
[09:22] <erUSUL> !language
[09:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:22] <jeeves_Moss> igor: to get it to work.  LOL  It's telling me that I have no CSS lib installed
[09:22] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: should i maybe try to re-dl the file?
[09:22] <igor> jeeves_Moss: I need the exact output
[09:22] <leopartux> how can i activate auto login
[09:22] <Hasrat_Usa> okay b0r15 remove the 'sudo' command and just type the rest
[09:22] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: you could, dont know if thats the issue here
[09:22] <Hasrat_Usa> wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[09:22] <quaal> anyone familiar with using gtkpod ?
[09:22] <jeeves_Moss> igor:  jump into #jeeves, and I'll paste it.
[09:23] <WaZ_> reinstalled fglrx drivers, but can't get direct rendering to work: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect. Can anyone help?
[09:23] <Hasrat_Usa> make sure you put a space after wget
[09:23] <bauer77> yes waz
[09:23] <b0ri5> Resolving albertomilone.com... 68.178.232.90
[09:23] <b0ri5> Connecting to albertomilone.com|68.178.232.90|:80... connected.
[09:23] <b0ri5> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Internal Server Error
[09:23] <b0ri5> 15:23:02 ERROR 500: Internal Server Error.
[09:23] <royel> igor: is it normal to have the installer put the Examples shortcut on your desktop, I remember seeing that in the livecd, but never after an install
[09:23] <Hasrat_Usa> what's the card WaZ_? hey by the way nice to meet you again
[09:23] <bauer77> did you install from the binaries?
[09:23] <pecisk> how can I say file mime type in console?
[09:23] <WaZ_> bauer77: yes
[09:23] <igor> royel: normal
[09:23] <WaZ_> Hasrat_Usa: hey man
[09:23] <bauer77> did you do ctrl alt backspace or reboot?
[09:24] <igor> royel: ls -la /etc/skel (this is everythin added to new users dir)
[09:24] <WaZ_> bauer77: yes, I even depmoded
[09:24] <Hasrat_Usa> wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb <<< try this now b0r15
[09:24] <Landon> Hey, what's the command to run a script in terminal?
[09:24] <bauer77> do rmmod fglrx
[09:24] <bauer77> that is what fixed me
[09:24] <royel> igor: I didn't it on mine :)
[09:24] <bauer77> did you comment out composite too?
[09:24] <Pici> Landon: sh <scriptname>
[09:25] <Landon> Gotcha, thanks Pici
[09:25] <WaZ_> bauer77: yup, i even dusabled the module ;-)
[09:25] <b0ri5> same error.. is there some way to copy the text from here since every time someone replies the highlighting clears?
[09:25] <bauer77> that is what fixed my issue.
[09:25] <Assid> err.. isnt there gkrellm for ubuntu ???
[09:25] <Hasrat_Usa> damn i don't understand why you are getting the error
[09:25] <Assid> is there anything similar to that?
[09:25] <WaZ_> bauer77: thx, ill try once more
[09:26] <javiolo> hi
[09:26] <WaZ_> brb
[09:26] <Pici> !info gkrellm
[09:26] <ubotu> gkrellm: The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.9-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2060 kB
[09:26] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: i just re-installed ubuntu last night so it should be a fresh install
[09:26] <javiolo> can totem player play dvd ?
[09:26] <igor> royel: some versions has it.. others not.. I dont know why.
[09:26] <Pici> Assid: Its there, just in the univerise repositiory.  See !repo for info on how to enable them
[09:26] <igor> royel: mine has .
[09:26] <Assid> !repo
[09:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:26] <Hasrat_Usa> b0r15 download this file using a browser or something like that and save it in your /home folder
[09:26] <bauer77> Waz good luck it took me forever to fix my issue, but if you need some help.
[09:27] <Assid> !EasySource
[09:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:27] <b0ri5> some sort of internal server error. I just installed Ubuntu, maybe I need some sort of program? Also I'm behind a hardware firewall-does it have to do with anything?
[09:27] <Hasrat_Usa> http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.6.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[09:27] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: thats fine.. it's ok, we just got to figure out why that download won't execute
[09:27] <Hasrat_Usa> you're behind a hardware firewall? that might be a reason, i'm not sure though
[09:27] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: im getting it again, this time with a dl manager
[09:27] <morrolan> hey guys, can anyone help me a little with irssi?
[09:27] <b0ri5> should I type it in terminal or open in firefox?
[09:27] <Hasrat_Usa> may be the firewall is preventing wget from downloading the file
[09:28] <morrolan> hey guys, can anyone help me a little with irssi?  I'm currently in 2 channels, and I don't know how to switch between them?
[09:28] <b0ri5> no, only remote connections are blocked.
[09:28] <kitche> morrolan: alt+window#
[09:28] <b0ri5> inbound connections, I meant
[09:28] <Hasrat_Usa> you don't necessarily need a firewall with linux since access to the system is closed and blocked by default
[09:28] <kitche> morrolan: or /window #
[09:28] <b0ri5> for m$ computers
[09:28] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: your running a 64bit pc?
[09:28] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: yea, but im running 32 bit linux
[09:28] <Byan> how do I make something in i686, on a amd64 box?
[09:28] <Hasrat_Usa> b0ri5 can you download the file http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.6.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb with your web browser?
[09:29] <morrolan> kitche - thanks a lot, you've just saved me
[09:29] <Hasrat_Usa> and save it in your /home folder?
[09:29] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: then you should use the 32 bit driver.. not the 64 bit
[09:29] <Pici> morrolan: or use alt+n or alt+p to go to your previous and next windows
[09:29] <b0ri5> I get the same 500 Internal Server Error
[09:29] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: according to the page this driver works for both
[09:29] <bruenig> !nv
[09:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:29] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: ah
[09:29] <morrolan> I'm running the ./configure script for UFO:Alien Invasion, and I get the following error:  configure: error: couldn't find libvorbisfile!
[09:29] <Hasrat_Usa> damn lol. does that mean you cant download anything? can you download anything right now? try it
[09:30] <Hasrat_Usa> for example, download a mp3 and see if that works
[09:30] <b0ri5> Iubotu, I tried doing that, but couldn't
[09:30] <wraith> hi
[09:30] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: I have nvidia cards.. assumed the _64 designated it was only 64 bit driver
[09:30] <morrolan> configure: error: couldn't find libvorbisfile!
[09:30] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: but thats strange because on ati's site they have 2 drivers, one for 23 one for 64
[09:30] <wraith> could anyone help to me about printer packages
[09:30] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: should i try the 32?
[09:30] <morrolan> I'm running the ./configure script for UFO:Alien Invasion, and I get the following error:  configure: error: couldn't find libvorbisfile!   Even though libvorbisfile3 is installed?
[09:31] <bruenig> b0ri5, open a terminal and do "wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i envy_0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb"
[09:31] <joerack> guys: what does "depandancy is not satifyable mean" ?
[09:31] <b0ri5> downloads work, I'll try the command u gave me. How do I copy off this program, since each time someone replies the text gets deselected?
[09:32] <bruenig> joerack, a dependency is something a program requires in order to run, it not being satisfiable means that your repositories don't have that dependency in them
[09:32] <Phocean> hi
[09:32] <cables> How can I set my screensaver to run a hack with a certain argument?
[09:32] <Phocean> I am having an issue with the Opera browser
[09:32] <bruenig> b0ri5, just highlighting text automatically copies it
[09:32] <James2432> uhhh whats the default console text-editor installed on ubuntu?
[09:33] <bruenig> James2432, there is nano and vim
[09:33] <James2432> thx
[09:33] <Phocean> it is a locale issue (keyboard type like ^e instead of ) and as it only happens with Opera, I wonder what kind of setting it uses
[09:33] <coolball> has anyone ever failed or succeeded at using a geforce 7100gs with the nvidia driver?
[09:33] <b0ri5> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 /ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[09:33] <b0ri5> 15:32:30 ERROR 404: /ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb.
[09:33] <Phocean> please help me
[09:33] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: i could dl the 32 bit driver
[09:33] <bruenig> b0ri5, there is something wrong on your end, because I can download it
[09:33] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: I think it's probably ok.. just looked at it.. I think judging from the size it includes both sets
[09:33] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: yea
[09:33] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: the installer choses the correct one
[09:34] <b0ri5> great... I run a Smoothwall firewall, I don't have snort+ids enabled, so what rule should I generate?
[09:34] <Hasrat_Usa> there you go b0ri5 :)
[09:34] <Lam_al_Adie> hi.
[09:34] <bruenig> b0ri5, do you need a firewall/.
[09:34] <bruenig> ?
[09:34] <joerack> bruenig: i understand , so it means i must pump the repositories to install the program
[09:34] <SnrWhippy> ?
[09:34] <SnrWhippy> no one here
[09:35] <bruenig> joerack, yeah, what dependency is it saying isn't satisfiable?
[09:35] <b0ri5> yes, because I have Microsuck WindBlows XPlode computers also, and servers.
[09:35] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: you d/ling again still?
[09:35] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: just did
[09:35] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: I need about 5 minutes afk..
[09:35] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: give the new stuff a shot an see what comes up
[09:36] <joerack> bruenig: libbewt0.51   (i'm trying to install mondo backup)
[09:36] <b0ri5> what inbound rule should I create; if not, how to alternative install?
[09:36] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: whats the cmd for that again?
[09:37] <tuckerm> Hey guys, I'm running a form of knoppix (kanotix) and i'm wondering the exact sudo command for allowing write access to media:/sda2
[09:37] <bruenig> joerack, I can't find that in the repositories and I have all the official ones. Maybe the site you are getting mondo from has a separate deb for that or tells you how to get that
[09:37] <bauer77> write access for user?
[09:37] <James2432> whats the command to clear the screen? x_X sry really forgetful today
[09:37] <bauer77> clear
[09:37] <PhyerFly> is there anyone in here an expert with network manager / vpnc?
[09:37] <joerack> brienig: it doesn't have the ubuntu release so I looked under debian 3.1... must be that
[09:38] <tuckerm> Just so I can copy a file to my windows dir, it's corrupt
[09:38] <bruenig> joerack, mondo is in the ubuntu repos, is there any reason you don't want to use that one?
[09:38] <joerack> no... I just learn of it's existence and googled it
[09:38] <bauer77> tuckerm: http://catcode.com/teachmod/
[09:39] <bruenig> joerack, oh here is your dependency
[09:39] <bruenig> !Info libnewt0.52
[09:39] <ubotu> libnewt0.52: Not Erik's Windowing Toolkit - text mode windowing with slang. In component main, is important. Version 0.52.2-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 50 kB, installed size 784 kB
[09:39] <bruenig> joerack, you misspelled it
[09:39] <tsoler> hello to all
[09:39] <tsoler> guys a simple quest
[09:39] <tsoler> how can i edit bash.bashrc??
[09:39] <tsoler> it opens like read only
[09:39] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: its giving me the same thing
[09:40] <somic> #ubuntu-fr-testing
[09:40] <joerack> ok thanks for the feedback, I'm gonna look for it under the ubuntu repositories sounds more safe
[09:40] <PhyerFly> sudo gedit .bashrc ?
[09:40] <Roey> hi
[09:40] <somic> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr-testing
[09:40] <shirish> hi all, how do I print with an HP JetDirect 2600N network printer, its IP Address is 192.168.1.15
[09:40] <bruenig> joerack, yeah, when youare installing third party debs, what I usually do is "sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb && sudo apt-get install -f" the last command will generally get all the dependencies you need from the repos and clean up the failed install
[09:40] <somic> irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr-testing
[09:41] <Macskeeball> Is there a way to sign up for an email notification when major Ubuntu stable releases come out (Dapper -> Edgy, Edgy -> Feisty, that kind of new release)? I'd rather not use an RSS feed for that, but it would be a handy reminder..
[09:41] <mindstate> anyone here using the newest linux kernel? im having trouble getting online with the newest kernel ..it was working ,now all of a sudden it doesnt
[09:41] <mx-zoom> somic: why're you pasting the same adress time after time?
[09:42] <joerack> so sudo dpkg -i mondo.dbs will find me the program I need?
[09:42] <tsoler> phyerfly: perfect
[09:42] <joerack> (sry I've just left windows)
[09:42] <lavid> anyone get this error message on feisty fawn? glxgears: xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed.
[09:42] <lavid> or perhaps know how to fix it?
[09:42] <shirish> hi all, how do I print with an HP JetDirect 2600N network printer, its IP Address is 192.168.1.15
[09:42] <PhyerFly> :)
[09:42] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: back, same thing eh?
[09:42] <Kilroo> Looks like I'm going to need to either use ndiswrapper, or get a new wireless card...
[09:43] <Instabin> anyone konw where i can get help with a counterstirke: source server?
[09:43] <tsoler> phyerfly: how can i add now the export JAVA_HOME ??
[09:43] <Kilroo> Preferably the latter, I still kick myself for having accidentally ordered a b instead of a g.
[09:43] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: did you check the permissions on it? is it executable?  It may have to run with root priviledges
[09:43] <shirish> can anybody help me?
[09:43] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: i clicked the box making it executable
[09:43] <igor> shirish: gnome print
[09:43] <chimeres> Hi, do you know what is the theme used in that GNOME distribution? http://www.foresightlinux.com/sitemedia/screenshots/desktop-20070127.png
[09:44] <igor> shirish: system -> administation -> printers
[09:44] <Landon> Anyone remember the path where MPD music is saved? I can't remember for the life of me
[09:44] <shirish> hi igor I tried tht whole routine, doesn't work
[09:44] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: just now or before?
[09:44] <igor> shirish: then you should explain what happened, and what you have tried.
[09:44] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: before
[09:44] <Landon> Or does anyone remember where the MPD file is that I have to edit to find the path?
[09:44] <bruenig> chimeres, could be a custom theme for that distro like ubuntu has its custom theme
[09:45] <shirish> igor: it's a friends' network & he also has windows there on 2 machines
[09:45] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: gonna pm you
[09:45] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: ok
[09:45] <igor> shirish: then you should explain what happened, and what you have tried.
[09:45] <klinger> Landon: already looked in /etc/mpd*?
[09:45] <shirish> igor : I tried going through system > administration > printers > HP Jet Direct > gave all the info
[09:45] <yommp28> !ati
[09:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:45] <Landon> klinger: That's the one! Thanks ;)
[09:45] <igor> shirish: is the printer jet direct ready?
[09:46] <chimeres> Thx.
[09:46] <shirish> igor : yes
[09:46] <Preto> :p
[09:46] <shirish> igor: the name is HP JetDirect 2600n model
[09:46] <slippyr4> evening all
[09:46] <bruenig> !hi | slippyr4
[09:46] <ubotu> slippyr4: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:46] <igor> shirish: its enabled? which options you have inserted? I have at least 50 jet direct printers here.. all them work
[09:47] <igor> shirish: how did you fill the configs in printer setup?
[09:47] <shirish> igor: oops its HP LaserJet 2600N & not JetDirect
[09:47] <igor> shirish: VERY DIFFERENT!
[09:48] <Landon> klinger: nvm, there's no folder mpd in /etc
[09:48] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: you see your PM's?
[09:48] <igor> shirish: this printer should be attached in a windows computer.. configure a SMB printer.. its very simple.
[09:48] <shirish> igor : ok so what should I choose in Network it gives me 4 options there, CUPS printer, Windows Printer, Unix Printer & HP JetDirect
[09:48] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: im talking to you in the pm window
[09:48] <igor> VERY simple. easier than windows way to do it.
[09:48] <igor> windows printer
[09:48] <Frost^> Hello. How can I get a list of the packages I have installed?
[09:49] <igor> then fill the domain, user, password, computer and printer name
[09:49] <klinger> Landon: ok, was just a guess. wait a moment
[09:49] <Byan> how would I go about getting the colors in my shell, like gentoo has?
[09:49] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: your not registered?
[09:49] <bruenig> Frost^, conceivably doing ls /var/cache/apt/archives will do that
[09:49] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: registered?
[09:49] <igor> shirish: choose the right driver.. and voila
[09:49] <shwag> anyone know if there is linux compatibilty for onboard Intel Corporation HD Audio ?
[09:49] <Frost^> bruenig: I see. Thanks.
[09:49] <PhyerFly> Is it okay to ask questions in here that were already asked (and not anwered) in the ubuntu forums?
[09:49] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: can't pm till you register.
[09:49] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: register for what?
[09:50] <shirish> igor: wait lemme write it all down
[09:50] <klinger> Landon: i have it in /etc/mpd.conf. the directory is /var/lib/mpd/music
[09:50] <bruenig> PhyerFly, yeah
[09:50] <igor> shirish: I deserve a coke ... someone please sent me one by DCC please.. very cold!!1
[09:50] <Landon> There it is
[09:51] <PhyerFly> How do I establish a cisco vpn connection using Network Manager and vpnc giving myself full access to my company's network (all ranges) without losing access to the internet through my local network?
[09:51] <Landon> Thanks a lot klinger
[09:51] <klinger> np
[09:51] <PhyerFly> i think its just a routing table issue - but i cant get it to work
[09:51] <PhyerFly> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=360986 <-- here's the full explanation
[09:51] <igor> PhyerFly: this isn't a simple question and didn't has a simple answer.. you should learn more about routing.
[09:52] <CapaH> How do I install ruby on rails/gems ?
[09:52] <CapaH> apt-get what?
[09:52] <shirish> igor: ok got tht down, btw isn't the Laserjet series a network ready printer?
[09:52] <bruenig> !ruby
[09:52] <Flannel> Byan: ttys should already have color enabled (it's in your bashrc), you may need to tweak some options for gnome-terminal though, although I don't know what they may be
[09:52] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[09:52] <mindstate> CapaH, try apt-cache search filename
[09:52] <britt> if i went thru inetd.conf already and swap is intalled, why cant i access it via port 901?
[09:52] <CapaH> I have ruby but not gems
[09:53] <bruenig> !info rails
[09:53] <ubotu> rails: MVC ruby based framework geared for web application development. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.6-1 (edgy), package size 1734 kB, installed size 12920 kB
[09:53] <PhyerFly> Igor: I don't need a simple answer, just someone to point me in the right direction
[09:53] <bruenig> CapaH, it appears sudo apt-get install ruby rails would work
[09:53] <shirish> igor: u do deserve a coke, but unforunately it's night time here & no tea also
[09:53] <igor> shirish: yes.. and it is a directed connected on the network. not in a usb/parallel port.
[09:54] <b0ri5> has anyone here installed Foliding@home?
[09:54] <b0ri5> Folding, I meant
[09:54] <igor> PhyerFly: sure.. I can point you.. to learn about routing (the basis) you can start with linux routing howto .
[09:55] <b0ri5> no?
[09:55] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: not quite
[09:55] <SPACE_NINJA> is there a simmilar program in gtk like amarok and k3b?
[09:55] <shirish> igor: yup, it is directed connected to the network
[09:55] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: need me to repeat it?
[09:55] <bruenig> no answer = no
[09:55] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: shit just isnt working for me
[09:55] <igor> PhyerFly: to go to a more theorical thing (and GOOOOOOD one) try internetworking with TCP/IP written by Comer, Stevens I have one aside my computer. then you can read the *IN*FAMOUS LARTC at www.lartc.org
[09:55] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: yea
[09:55] <SPACE_NINJA> I have to mix appearance. I want one overall look to my programs
[09:55] <jeeves_Moss> igor:  you still here?
[09:55] <SPACE_NINJA> hate
[09:55] <igor> shirish: then... its a jetdirect printer
[09:55] <CapaH> gem command not found still
[09:55] <shirish> igor: how do I find what the domain is, all I know is tht all the comps. here have 192.168.1.x series
[09:55] <CapaH> any ideas?
[09:55] <bruenig> SPACE_NINJA, amarok equivalents, listen exaile, k3b, nothing really as good but gnomebaker appears to be the default burning application of most
[09:56] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: did that part
[09:56] <Flannel> !burn | SPACE_NINJA
[09:56] <ubotu> SPACE_NINJA: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:56] <shirish> igor: I'm presuming here, have to actually check the cable & see how the connection is
[09:56] <slippyr4> phyerfly: i don't know anything about non windows cisco vpn clients, however, certainly in windows, local network access is blocked by the client software on the request of the vpn concentrator at the other end, if that policy decision has been made by the administrator
[09:56] <dahoople> PhyerFly:  Could it be that your admins have the Split Tunneling Policy set to "tunnel everything" <the default> on the VPN concentrator?
[09:56] <igor> shirish: ping your printer
[09:56] <sharperguy> SlackwareMaster just spammed me
[09:56] <igor> shirish: then try telnet PRINTER_IP 9000
[09:57] <bruenig> sharperguy, /ignore him
[09:57] <igor> shirish: if you connected.. printer is ok and answering.
[09:57] <shirish> igor: should I try from a windows box or from the linux box?
[09:57] <PhyerFly> slipply, dahoople: I honestly dont have any idea how they have it set up - i just know that it works that way in Windows
[09:57] <igor> shirish: linux 4 sure.
[09:57] <igor> shirish: the windows can print on printer?
[09:57] <sharperguy> is it possible to boot from a .iso file with grub?
[09:57] <PhyerFly> I dont need access to my local network
[09:57] <shirish> igor: yup it can, no issues
[09:57] <Rprp> 
[09:57] <PhyerFly> just the internet connection
[09:58] <igor> shirish: you can ping windows machines and printer? if so isn't a physical problem.
[09:58] <igor> shirish: maybe you had misconfigured in gnome print config
[09:58] <shirish> igor: I can see the 2 machines in my network neighborhood
[09:58] <bruenig> sharperguy, what do you mean?
[09:58] <Lam_al_Adie> i just installed kubuntu on a machine and then moved the hdd to another machine (lacking a proper optical drive and having only a 3com 3c509 etherlinkIII NIC.
[09:58] <bruenig> sharperguy, like where is the .iso going to be at?
[09:58] <Lam_al_Adie> my problem now is to make the nic work.
[09:58] <shirish> igor: what should I configure in gnome print config?
[09:58] <Flannel> sharperguy: yeah, it's doable.  Not the smoothest thing.  Here's one: http://www.linqi.org/linux/lomd.html
[09:59] <slippyr4> phyerfly: what do you mean "it woks that way in windows"? do you mean you *have* local net access when connected in windows?
[09:59] <sharperguy> bruenig, use grub to point to an iso on my ext3 partition and boot from it, is it possible?
[09:59] <Lam_al_Adie> sudo modprobe 3c509 works just fine, the nic will be found.
[09:59] <sharperguy> maybe not grub
[09:59] <shirish> igor: and igor I had sent u a pm sometime back, if u can look into tht it would be helpful quite a bit
[09:59] <dahoople> PhyerFly:  I know that's how we have it set up here and that I have to set the user profile to allow networks to bypass the tunnel.  The Cisco guys say that it's more secure to tunnel everything...
[09:59] <Lam_al_Adie> but after that i utterly fail. where do i continue?
[09:59] <uFo-Z> anybody has a fresh install of java5 ? i need the content of jvm.cfg in /etc/java-1.5.0-sun
[09:59] <Instabin> Did every one go vote on www.dellideastorm.com for linux to come preloaded
[09:59] <phaidros> strangely xorg ati driver recovers from hibernation but not from suspend .. any ideas?
[09:59] <Lam_al_Adie> _how_ do i continue?
[10:00] <bruenig> sharperguy, I can't think of anyway to do it with grub, grub or some other bootloader would be the only way that could conceivably work but I don't think you can
[10:00] <The_PHP_Jedi|PDA> sup
[10:00] <igor> shirish: and I have answered
[10:00] <slippyr4> sharperguy: that would not be possible. grub, and lilo et al use the BIOS to access disks until the kernel can take over. The BIOS could not support what you want.
[10:00] <PhyerFly> slipplyr4: I mean that I can get to the internet wheh I use the cisco vpn software in windows and when i do the same in ubuntu I lose access to the internet (and thus all of the sites on my company's network) when I connect to VPN
[10:00] <Assid> err. when the new "updates" are processed.. does it automatically clear archives?
[10:00] <cables> Instabin, of course. But in truth I'd rather them just put submit driver patches to the kernel so any distro can use dell hardware
[10:01] <PhyerFly> dahoople: Tunneling everything would include all of my port 80 traffic, which is fine
[10:01] <Flannel> Assid: no, you can do it manually easily though
[10:01] <Assid> okay so it doesnt clear right?
[10:01] <slippyr4> phyerfly: have you tracert'ed in windows to see **how** you're connecting to the internet in windows?
[10:01] <Assid> cause i plan savbe the arvhice
[10:01] <Assid> since i need to use it in another location as well
[10:01] <Flannel> Assid: "sudo apt-get clean" or "sudo apt-get autoclean", depending on what you want to do
[10:01] <Instabin> cables: Yea but being preloaded would get linux where it normaly wouldnt be
[10:01] <Assid> i might as well archive it
[10:01] <Flannel> Assid: correct.
[10:01] <Lam_al_Adie> or, in proper words: how can i establish a network-connection with ubuntu 6.06 and a 3c509?
[10:01] <cables> Instabin, good point
[10:01] <slippyr4> phyerfly: it may be that you internet connection is via the tunnel, when connected
[10:01] <shirish> igor: ok I guess, just to clear the air, lemme understand if it has a cat5 cable then it's jetdirect printer but if it has usb/parallel cable then its a windows printer
[10:01] <PhyerFly> slippyr4: yes, its through the VPN connection - its all routed through there. I get a different IP affress in everything
[10:02] <igor> shirish: can you telnet PRINTERIP 9000 ?
[10:02] <igor> if so.. isn't a physical problem
[10:02] <slippyr4> phyerfly: so in linux, when connected, what does your routing table look like compared to the windows one? there must be some difference
[10:02] <The_PHP_Jedi|PDA> i'm having boot problems... "kernel panic - not syncing vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"
[10:02] <Assid> Flannel i didnt want it to clean thats why
[10:02] <Lam_al_Adie> i'm lacking the part between modprobe 3c509 and ifup eth0
[10:02] <shirish> I'm actually not on the site right now, it's a friend's network when I will be tyring tomorrow morning.
[10:02] <igor> slippyr4: I think that windows routing table is weird.
[10:02] <PhyerFly> slippyr4: I've never compared the routing tables - i dont even know how to do that in dinwos
[10:02] <dahoople> PhyerFly:  I copied your URL from above and will test it tonight from home.
[10:03] <dahoople> I'm running feisty (alpha4) but do have and edgy box at home as well.
[10:03] <shirish> he has a single machine which he has with ubuntu, we're trying to play with it & understand how things work
[10:03] <slippyr4> phyerfly: route print iirc
[10:03] <shirish> he has 2 other machines which have windows & there is the printer
[10:03] <igor> shirish: ubuntu can ping the windows host?
[10:03] <distant_voice> How can I mount my second Harddrive? I know I have to edit fstab. Right now I added the line "/dev/hdc1	/media/hdc1	ext3	rw,user		0	0" but I get the error special device ... not found. I can mount it with 'mount /dev/hdc /media/hdc1' can anybody help?
[10:03] <shirish> do u mean something like ping 192.168.1.10
[10:04] <slippyr4> phyerfly: yeah, route print - the layout it a bit different but it's fundamentially the same as route on *nix
[10:04] <Rprp>   Bam-Bam Blackhuntr ChanServ Duiv Eggdrop Jgotti madman onwiezen perrY pugsley Rprp speedy Theoz Twofists Whoopie Xtro
[10:04] <Flannel> Assid: alright, well, now you know how anyway ;)
[10:04] <shirish> igor: 10 being the IP of the comp. there
[10:04] <slippyr4> distant_voice: you need tabs between those different bits in fstab
[10:04] <PhyerFly> Okay cool, ill have to compare them tonight and see what the difference is
[10:04] <Assid> yeah.. i know debian doesnt do it , but then i normall apt-get there instead of synaptics or whatever that auto update featurre is
[10:04] <igor> shirish: 10 isn't a valid ip address
[10:05] <distant_voice> hmm I think they are there... checking...
[10:05] <shirish> igor: I meant 192.168.1.10 :)
[10:05] <igor> shirish: yes..
[10:05] <distant_voice> yepp they are already there, does it look good to you?
[10:05] <igor> shirish: btw.. no.
[10:05] <igor> shirish: what is the printer IP?
[10:05] <slippyr4> phyerfly: only think to note is that the output of windows route print has lines with your current IP and mask 255.255.255.255 - you can ignore these
[10:05] <shirish> igor: I will try tht, its 192.168.1.15
[10:05] <igor> shirish: ping 192.168.1.15
[10:06] <CapaH> I seem to have ruby and rails but I dont have gems... how can I get gems? anyone?
[10:06] <shirish> igor: if it doesn't ping 192.168.1.15 then it means, its not a jetdirect printer ?
[10:06] <slippyr4> distant_voice: are you sure that the filesystem type is correct
[10:06] <coolball> I am an ubuntu user I like it!
[10:06] <slippyr4> distant_voice: also please quote peoples nick in your replies - it gets confusing otherwise
[10:06] <PhyerFly> in my post i mentioned that If i use split tunneling i can get access to some ranges of my company's network - but if i specify the range that my local network is using (192.168.x.x)  OR turn off split tunnling completely - I'm connected to my work's network but cant reach anything
[10:06] <igor> shirish: or the ip is wrong. or it didn't use TCP/IP protocol
[10:06] <distant_voice> slippyr4 ya I used mkfs myself
[10:07] <shirish> igor: ok ill be testing all these possibilities tomorrow morning at his end, it's 2:30 a.m. here
[10:07] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  it definetely is, when I mount it manually it works
[10:07] <igor> shirish: good night.
[10:07] <shirish> igor: I'll be here for 10 more minutes & then off to bed, it has been nice knowing u for sure
[10:08] <igor> shirish: thank you.. be welcome.
[10:08] <GottferDamnt> thank to SlackwareMaster for the spam
[10:08] <PhyerFly> hmm, would vista have a different command for printing the routing table?
[10:08] <Lr5> Strange, on this computer midi sounds work, on laptop (thinkpad t21) they don't work
[10:08] <shirish> igor: are u always here?
[10:08] <CapaH> nm got it
[10:08] <Lr5> But on the laptop sounds when running teamspeak or runescape work, not on this computer
[10:08] <distant_voice> slippyr4: do I have to restart the whole machine to run in order to run fstab or is there a shortcut?
[10:08] <igor> shirish: no.
[10:09] <Lr5> Does the midi sound take place from others or something?
[10:09] <shirish> igor: tht is really a pity
[10:09] <slippyr4> distant_voice - but when you manually mount you don't specify FS type
[10:09] <itguru> Man, this room is FULL!
[10:09] <dahoople> PhyerFly: should still be route print from cmd window
[10:09] <igor> shirish: ;-) you got my mail
[10:09] <itguru> Long live Ububtu :)
[10:09] <The_PHP_Jedi|PDA> :)
[10:09] <coolball> !nvidia
[10:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:09] <slippyr4> distant_voice : you have to reboot. you can think of fstab as a list of filesystems to automount
[10:09] <shirish> igor: I didn't get ur mail
[10:09] <igor> shirish: ;-) morgado.igor@gmail.com (dont add me to spam bots)
[10:10] <shirish> igor : lol wouldn't I just hope everybody is honorable as me, tht's why I was asking u in pm
[10:10] <slippyr4> phyerfly: in vista you probably need to be admin - so you need to run a shell as administrator to do the route print
[10:10] <PhyerFly> k
[10:10] <eagles0513875> anything in vista u need admin privs
[10:10] <slv> can anyone refer me to information on running ubuntu on g4 laptops?
[10:10] <PhyerFly> only if you have user account control on
[10:10] <itguru> Has anyone in here installed the fluxbuntu?
[10:10] <shirish> igor: btw I have a windows xp test page can it help in anyway?
[10:11] <eagles0513875> it should ask u if ur logged in as ur normal user to input the admin pass
[10:11] <LucianSolaris> ok, stupid question, i try to write to a share on a windows server box, everyone has write, administrators have write, and I have write (which 'I' am in admin group and should also count as 'everyone' as well) but yet smb returns a cannot write to error, what's wrong?
[10:11] <slippyr4> phyerfly: is this linux box and windows box on the same subnet?
[10:11] <Assid> argh.. how do i increase the number of connections for updates?
[10:11] <igor> shirish: I dont know what has in the windows XP help page.
[10:11] <PhyerFly> slippyr4: they are the same computer, just dual booted
[10:11] <shirish> igor : I meant a windows xp printer test page
[10:11] <eagles0513875> is there a way i convert exe files to deb pkgs
[10:12] <igor> shirish: neither ;-)
[10:12] <eagles0513875> what u trying to do phyerfly
[10:12] <igor> eagles0513875:  why should you do that?
[10:12] <PhyerFly> eagle: vpn connection with ubuntu
[10:12] <shirish> igor: ok cool, so I need to first try to ping the printer & if tht doesn't work then check for physical connections
[10:12] <Enselic> eagles0513875: you can often run .exe:s
[10:12] <Enselic> eagles0513875: but convert them, nah
[10:12] <eagles0513875> in ubuntu
[10:12] <eagles0513875> how do u run them in ubuntu
[10:12] <Enselic> eagles0513875: sudo apt-get install wine
[10:13] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  hum I ran fdisk and it seems like there is no partition (even though I created one earlier). Now when I try to create a new one it says "Warning: partition 1 has empty type"
[10:13] <Enselic> eagles0513875: then wine some.exe
[10:13] <shirish> igor: thnx for ur help, it has been really a long day & I need to get some sleep
[10:13] <slippyr4> distant_voice: what does fdisk show when you (p)rint the partition table? (/msg me)
[10:13] <igor> shirish: not necessarily.. if you can ping windows. and windows can ping printer..  and you cant ping printer. and everyone is on the same network. we have a weird problem.
[10:14] <igor> shirish: bye
[10:14] <b0ri5> I have trouble installing folding@home: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101817
[10:14] <shirish> igor : actually I remote-installed the printer on the 2nd windows xp machine so it does lead me to believe it's a jetdirect but I might be wrong
[10:14] <shirish> igor : bye igor :)
[10:15] <MTecknology> When my Tablet is plugged in, I can turn the contrast up and down, when I unplug it I can only turn the contrast up. Can I get some help making it work?
[10:15] <SPACE_NINJA> can I install ubuntu without burning a cd?
[10:15] <itguru> LucianSolaris, what's your SMB issue again?
[10:15] <eagles0513875> can anyone help me with another prob
[10:15] <igor> SPACE_NINJA: yes you can.
[10:15] <SPACE_NINJA> how
[10:15] <SnrWhippy> yee haw!
[10:15] <SnrWhippy> here here!
[10:15] <SPACE_NINJA> is there a guide?
[10:16] <b0ri5> I could not make folding@home start automatically at boot. How do I do this?
[10:16] <Flannel> !install | SPACE_NINJA
[10:16] <ubotu> SPACE_NINJA: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:16] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  can't pm you, it shows nothing
[10:16] <LucianSolaris> itguru: I can't write to a winserv share, using my account which has full write (and is an admin), in kde
[10:16] <igor> SPACE_NINJA: i forgot the command name
[10:16] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  except Disk /dev/hdc: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
[10:16] <distant_voice> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders
[10:16] <distant_voice> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[10:16] <distant_voice>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:17] <MTecknology> When my Tablet is plugged in, I can turn the contrast up and down, when I unplug it I can only turn the contrast up. Can I get some help making it work?
[10:17] <b0ri5> How do I automatically startup a program in Linux, as a service?
[10:18] <jeeves_Moss> igor:  you still in here?
[10:18] <slippyr4> distant_voice: nothinh else?
[10:18] <distant_voice> b0ris systen -> Preferences -> sessions
[10:18] <xabo_f> hello
[10:18] <itguru> LucianSolaris, okay, I'm thinking off the top of my head here, I don't have a windows box in the office to test with, BUT, I remember having really bad problems trying to write to windows shares. Have you tried connect to the windows box using it's IP address?
[10:18] <distant_voice> slippyr4: no, strange
[10:18] <knubbe> Hello, "SlackwareMaster" is sending spam when i join #ubuntu
[10:18] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  and even stranger that it doesn't let me create a new partition
[10:18] <slippyr4> distant_voice: did you properly write the partition table when you created the partition? (w)?
[10:19] <Flannel> b0ri5: are you on dapper or edgy?
[10:19] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  yes sure
[10:19] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[10:19] <unop> b0ri5,  you need to add your own to /etc/init.d/ and use update-rc.d to enable that service in the runlevels you want (runlevel 2 is default)
[10:19] <slippyr4> distant_voice: what do you mean it won't let you create a new one?
[10:19] <b0ri5> I don't know; it came on the free CD I ordered.
[10:19] <eagles0513875> can anyone tell me y im getting this
[10:19] <eagles0513875> http://pastebin.ca/368140
[10:19] <nifl> anyone that could help me troubleshoot a D-Link DWL-G122 for edgy?:)
[10:19] <itguru> LucianSolaris, I'm guessing your box doesn't know how to resolve windows share names, that seemed to be default on all the distros i tried - i think i had to run an extra service on my box to get WINS resolution
[10:19] <LucianSolaris> itguru yes
[10:20] <LucianSolaris> i have tried
[10:20] <b0ri5> how do I do that? The instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101817 did not say howto
[10:20] <MTecknology> When my Tablet is plugged in, I can turn the contrast up and down, when I unplug it I can only turn the contrast up. Can I get some help making it work? - - PLEASE???
[10:20] <itguru> LucianSolaris, you've tried to write to it using it's IP address? Did it work?
[10:20] <Flannel> b0ri5: lsb_release -a, are you running edgy (6.10) or dapper (6.06)?
[10:20] <hairulfr> slackwaremaster is spamming me too...
[10:20] <distant_voice> slippyr4: everytime I do "a" and "1" it says "Warning: partition 1 has empty type"
[10:20] <hairulfr> (22:20:16) SlackwareMaster: * [ Tools Downloads ]  * > http://www.febronio.org
[10:20] <xabo_f> slackwaremaster is spamming me too
[10:20] <wubrgamer> he yguys, i just installed a desktop
[10:20] <eagles0513875> he did me to
[10:20] <wubrgamer> quick question thuogh, i put a proxy in
[10:21] <eagles0513875> i think he is spammin everyone
[10:21] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  is that because it's already mounted? I know there is a partition
[10:21] <slippyr4> distant_voice: "a" toggles bootable flag. "n" creates a partition
[10:21] <distant_voice> slippyr4: oops
[10:21] <nifl> anyone that could help me troubleshoot a D-Link DWL-G122 for edgy?
[10:21] <Assid> Flannel: would you happen to know how to increase the number of simultanous connections apt can do ?
[10:21] <b0ri5> 6.06, as stated in System, About Ubuntu.
[10:21] <wubrgamer> during the installation, and i don't know WHERE in the computer that proxy number is...point is, i just want to remove the proxy now and direct connect to the net
[10:21] <LucianSolaris> itguru if it did, i wouldn't be here
[10:21] <wubrgamer> geez, guys, where should i get help ?
[10:21] <distant_voice> slippyr4: okay, I created a new partition
[10:22] <Flannel> b0ri5: alright, then yeah, you'll add to init, here's one page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto (scroll down to installing custom init scripts)
[10:22] <slippyr4> distant_voice: if you fdisk and there's no partitions there, then there's no partitions. If there was one there previously and somehow it's gone, you *might* get your filesystem back by recreating the same old partition in the same size at the same place
[10:22] <dhorn> I managed to make it so I can't access kicker.  Is there any way to reset kicker's default position/properties?
[10:22] <dustin0> can anybody tell me if edgy 6.10 is a stable version?
[10:22] <distant_voice> slippyr4: the disk is empty, no worries
[10:22] <Flannel> dustin0: edgy is, feisty isnt
[10:22] <eagles0513875> how do i get this to stop happening
[10:22] <eagles0513875> http://pastebin.ca/368140
[10:22] <slippyr4> distant_voice, w to exit, then you should be able to ls /dev/sda* (or hda, or hdb etc, depending on the device)
[10:22] <eagles0513875> ive tried everythign imaginable
[10:23] <itguru> LucianSolaris, is your box in the same workgroup, as the windows box? *forgive me if I'm asking basic questions here!*
[10:23] <slippyr4> distant_voice: and ls should show like sda, and sda1
[10:23] <dustin0> thxs
[10:23] <LucianSolaris> yes
[10:23] <Ayabara> I try to get vpn running on ubuntu when I try to start with "sudo vpn connect <profile>" I get a message saying "The profile specified could not be read". can anyone help me out?
[10:23] <LucianSolaris> printer sharing is ok fyi, but no file writing
[10:23] <slippyr4> distant_voice: put a filesystem on it (i'd recommend reiserfs, but ext3 will do), then setup fstab and reboot
[10:24] <MTecknology> When my Tablet is plugged in, I can turn the contrast up and down, when I unplug it I can only turn the contrast up. Can I get some help making it work? - - PLEASE???
[10:24] <Amaranth> Flannel: thanks for the tip
[10:24] <Mattias> !background
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about background - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <eagles0513875> k3d
[10:25] <eagles0513875> !k3d
[10:25] <ubotu> k3d: 3D modeling and animation system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.12.0-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 10182 kB, installed size 43492 kB
[10:25] <theresa> hello! i've got the following error, error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, what does that mean?
[10:25] <eagles0513875> !k3d error1
[10:25] <Meekus> Is there a way I can run a script upon an existing and/or new user logging into an ubuntu box?  Some users will already have home directories, others will be logging into the machine for the first time. Everyone needs to run this script however.
[10:25] <MedivhX_> ups
[10:25] <eagles0513875> !k3d error
[10:25] <MedivhX_> gaim nesto blokirao
[10:25] <ubotu> k3d: 3D modeling and animation system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.12.0-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 10182 kB, installed size 43492 kB
[10:25] <MedivhX_> nece da posalje poruku
[10:25] <Amaranth> MTecknology: do you think we didn't give an answer in -offtopic because we don't like you? Like I said, that stuff is hit or miss.
[10:26] <joerack> guys, I've installed mondo backup with ubuntu repositories, but I can't find it anywhere
[10:26] <joerack> can you help please?
[10:26] <Amaranth> MTecknology: Only a handful of people who work on ubuntu know how that stuff works and I'm guessing most users either have it work or file a bug and hope it works in the next release.
[10:26] <olafski> hey guys, I'm trying to install kubuntu but somehow my system won't boot from the cd.. is there any simple bootfloppy I can use to boot from and then start the cd installation?
[10:26] <ghm> anyone managed to get a rt61 wireless card up and running? I have tried to follow various howto's on ubuntu forum, but I still have problem. It doesn't seem to start the wlan card. no lights
[10:26] <Enselic> joerack: sudo updatedb
[10:26] <Enselic> joerack: then use locate
[10:26] <joerack> thx :)
[10:27] <MTecknology> Amaranth, You told me to ask in here, so I did.
[10:27] <Enselic> olafski: have you set CD-boot in BIOS?
[10:27] <olafski> Enselic: yes
[10:27] <olafski> I dunno what's wrong with it, it used to boot from cd without trouble
[10:27] <olafski> I tried win98se and winME bootdisks but they all hang at some point
[10:27] <Amaranth> MTecknology: no i didn't
[10:27] <eagles0513875> !wine
[10:27] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:28] <MTecknology> Amaranth, you said -offtopic wasn't the right place - - i get 1hr+ less battery life with it turned up, that's why i care
[10:28] <olafski> Enselic: it doesn't even seem to check the cd drive
[10:28] <betatux> Could anyone provide me a link on how to setup a VPN server ?
[10:28] <Enselic> olafski: make sure CD boot is #1 test,
[10:28] <Enselic> !vpn | betatux:
[10:28] <ubotu> betatux:: From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[10:28] <b0ri5> I don't get this at all. What's the linux equivelent of C:\ ????
[10:29] <betatux> Thanks Enselic
[10:29] <ewanm89> b0ri5: /
[10:29] <Enselic> beasty: that wasnt for server
[10:29] <maxxism> b0ri5 :    /
[10:29] <batterylife> does anybody know how to help me with this problem? My battery monitor displays remaining time totally wrong. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=367838)
[10:29] <slippyr4> !ipsec
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipsec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <Enselic> beasty: if you didnt try googling, try it ^^
[10:29] <slippyr4> betatux: http://www.ipsec-howto.org/
[10:29] <olafski> Enselic: #1 test? what is that? I have it set to first boot device, with "boot other" enabled, and it just boots windows off of the hard drive; if I disable boot other it will complain about not having a bootable device
[10:30] <Enselic> olafski: if it boots windows with boot-cd in, then the BIOS settings is likely to be wrong
[10:30] <unop> b0ri5,  the unix equivalents of drive letters are mount points -- / is almost always one but you could have others like /etc, /var, /usr, /usr/local (which you would relate to as D:, E:, F: and so on in win32)
[10:31] <olafski> Enselic: well I wouldn't know how else to set them, I remember having troubles with this before but I can't remember what they were.. gonna try disabling the harddrive altogether
[10:31] <Amaranth> unop: windows has mount points too
[10:31] <Enselic> olafski: you set to test CD before HD
[10:31] <Enselic> olafski: that should do it
[10:31] <b0ri5> Ok, I followed the directions to run sudo /etc/init.d/foldingathome start, but I get: * Starting Folding@Home client 1                                        [fail] 
[10:31] <nifl> anyone that could help me troubleshoot a D-Link DWL-G122 for edgy?
[10:31] <unop> Amaranth,  yes (but why confuse him?) :)
[10:32] <slippyr4> b0ri5: tail /var/log/messages . is there any errors mentioned about f@h?
[10:32] <olafski> Enselic: as I said, the only boot device specified in the bios is the cd
[10:32] <unop> b0ri5,  there's nothing there to indicate a failure -- it sounds like an informational message
[10:33] <betatux> Question , how can I check if my running kernel has IPX support compiled ?
[10:33] <Enselic> olafski: hmm weird, some guru will have to take over here. are you sure you save the BIOS setup?
[10:33] <SOSubuntuKO> hello! i ve got some real trouble... i m booting from live cd... my ubuntu is KO!!! please help! it says can-t access tty job control turned off....
[10:33] <b0ri5> No, I don't see any related error msgs. Why is it not a failure?-It clearly says "[fail] ??
[10:34] <yommp28> Hi I'm on Edgy, and  installed ati fglrx driver(following the Ubuntu how-to)from repo ,modified xorg.conf ,blacklisted ati-agp ,However when modprobing fglrx ,I get "Error running install command for fglrx" Any Ideas ?
[10:34] <shwag> any linux programs that do LightScribe ?
[10:34] <SOSubuntuKO> i have managed to mount my partition which files should i copy to recover
[10:34] <SOSubuntuKO> ___
[10:34] <olafski> Enselic: aye, I dunno what the problem is :/ been doing these things for ages and somehow it's not working this time. maybe I can try a bios flash
[10:34] <slippyr4> sosubuntuko what else does it say? thats just for information ,theres more errors above
[10:35] <SOSubuntuKO> no more errors above slyppr4.... cannot even start rescue mode
[10:35] <b0ri5> doesn't make any sense. Maybe I should go back to Windows?
[10:36] <slippyr4> sosubuntuko: what exactly did you do to it between it last working and it being b0rked
[10:36] <padobot> Yes get back to windows *throws chair*
[10:36] <faLUCE> Hi. my kernel version is 2.6.17-10-generic. I must compile a new patched vanilla kernel.... which version is stable for kubuntu?
[10:36] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  it works now. Thx ever so much. Can you tell me how to give it a nice name?
[10:37] <slippyr4> b0ri5: do a ps -ef | less , and can you see any folding -related processes?
[10:37] <SOSubuntuKO> slippyr4, used synaptics to install ati drivers... :-{ must have damaged kernel or something?
[10:37] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Hi all! Are there any *hardened* apt-get troubleshooters available to help me with a problem? (Been fishinf here all day, but no one have been able to solve my problem yet)
[10:37] <maly> #ubuntu.pl
[10:37] <Enselic> Does anyone here have an estimation of how many people that are programmers that use Ubuntu?
[10:37] <Enselic> !pl | maly
[10:37] <ubotu> maly: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:37] <slippyr4> distant_voice: what do you mean "a nice name"
[10:37] <padobot> define programmer
[10:38] <Enselic> Programmer: a person proeficient in C, C++, Ruby, Java, C#
[10:38] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  basically another name. in windows you assigned a label to your hdds. how can I do that in linux?
[10:38] <distant_voice> slippyr4: hdc1 doesn't look pretty on my desktop : /
[10:38] <Enselic> padobot: or better: Programmer, able to modify GIMP
[10:38] <dyrne> or able to drag and drop in an ide..
[10:39] <eagles0513875> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:39] <eagles0513875> i hate k3d
[10:39] <slippyr4> distant_voice: i think a different mount point would probably suffice. i don't think that's a label shown on the desktop. create a new directory in /media - eg /media/Pretty
[10:39] <slippyr4> and change /media/hdc1 to /media/Pretty in fstab
[10:39] <distant_voice> slippyr4: and here's another problem. It says I don't have permission to write
[10:39] <b0ri5> But really, I've been literally spending 3 hours installing a program. Should I read the Linux For Beginners? I am very good with Windows and computers, but I am completely lost right now.
[10:39] <Suschman> hi
[10:40] <samuel> sup all
[10:40] <slippyr4> distant_voice: write files to your new disk?
[10:40] <Suschman> i have a question about the oem mode install of ubuntu.
[10:40] <samuel> anyone know of an email program that will search imap folders?
[10:40] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  exactly
[10:40] <Suschman> can i script the install with presets like windows installer is possible to?
[10:40] <distant_voice> slippyr4: this is what I put in fstab: /dev/hdc	/media/hdc1	ext3	rw,user		0	0
[10:41] <Suschman> so that i insert the cd, it runs through, uses predefined shoices and i dont need to sit by?
[10:41] <Enselic> samuel: Evolution, Thunderbird?
[10:41] <AlexC_> Morning all,
[10:41] <memero> questo  il canale che  segnalato su www.ubuntu-it.org?
[10:41] <samuel> Enselic: evolution does not... is it supposed to?
[10:41] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Any linux-wixard here who can help me with a apt-get problem that has been unsolvable during this day?
[10:42] <samuel> memero: try #ubuntu-it
[10:42] <Enselic> samuel: does for me....
[10:42] <memero> ok
[10:42] <slippyr4> distant_voice : start a shell and "ls -lad /media/hdc1" - enter results here
[10:42] <erUSUL> |anyone
[10:42] <erUSUL> !anyone
[10:42] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:42] <AlexC_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: we can't help if you ask no question.
[10:42] <slippyr4> !question | ubuntun00b)hbg
[10:42] <ubotu> ubuntun00b)hbg: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:42] <samuel> Enselic: hmmm... do you keep a copy of your IMAP folders for offlline use or no?
[10:43] <Enselic> samuel: changes I do locally at least mirrors when I go to work, so at least they are bound somehow
[10:43] <distant_voice> slippyr4: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-02-22 22:33 /media/hdc1
[10:43] <slippyr4> gah! i thought i'd lost my beer
[10:43] <samuel> Enselic: thanks
[10:43] <Enselic> samuel: I dont know the implementation, but it works as Id assume
[10:43] <slippyr4> distant_voice: what user are you logged in as
[10:43] <strankan> does anyone have any idea why rxvt-unicode can't display my swedish characters, when gnome-terminal and Konsole can?
[10:43] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> AlexC_: well... i understand your point... but many have failed this challenge so im fishing for a pro! well... here goes...
[10:43] <distant_voice> slippyr4: my account name is distantv0ice if that's what you mean
[10:44] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> the problem sounds easy at first:
[10:44] <distant_voice> slippyr4: I should become owner of it
[10:44] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  but how?
[10:44] <jordo23> Has anyone here used ISTANBUL to record desktop sessions under Ubuntu?
[10:44] <slippyr4> distant_voice : you could do, or, you could change permissions- try "sudo chmod a+rwx /media/hdc1
[10:45] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> i was installing linux-restricted-modules according to the unofficial ati-wiki like this:
[10:45] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[10:45] <FireHazard17> hey everbody
[10:45] <olafski> does anyone know of a simple boot floppy I can use to install ubuntu/kubuntu please?
[10:45] <Suschman> they should be on the ftp olafski
[10:45] <erUSUL> strankan: maybe becouse of the font it uses?
[10:45] <AlexC_> !enter | UbuntuN00B_HBG
[10:45] <ubotu> UbuntuN00B_HBG: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:45] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> but the installation failed... it just froze when it reached "Configuring linux-restricted-modules ..."
[10:45] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  what command lets me become owner of something?
[10:45] <FireHazard17> olafski: can use the debian one maybe
[10:46] <SirTouster> hey :) Could I have a question. Is there a way how to specify, on which desktop application should appear when started?
[10:46] <SOSubuntuKO> i-m stuck with error on loading ubuntu .... cannot access tty job control turned off.... can anybody help???
[10:46] <strankan> erUSUL: could it really be that easy? :)
[10:46] <SirTouster> I could use it in autostart
[10:46] <Suschman> olafski: at least there i got a usbstick installer :)
[10:46] <AlexC_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: tried re-installing it linux-restricted... ?
[10:46] <slippyr4> distant_voice: chown would do it (chown <youruse> <filename>) but you don't want to do that here. change the permissions like i said before
[10:46] <distant_voice> slippyr4: k
[10:47] <slippyr4> distant_voice: do you understand what all the drwxrwxrwx stuff means?
[10:47] <distant_voice> slippyr4: yes I do
[10:47] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> so i tried to remove it... that freezes at "Removing linux-restricted-modules ...", sudo apt-get clean/remove/autoclean/install or dpkg --configure -a / dpkg --remove with all kinds of force applied... nothing helps...
[10:47] <erUSUL> strankan: try with de Deja Vu fonts (that's what gnome-terminal uses by default iirc)
[10:47] <distant_voice> slippyr4: still will still be valid after I reboot of course?
[10:47] <strankan> ok thanks mate
[10:47] <AlexC_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: sudo apt-get install oh-dear-thats-not-good :P ... erm... hum
[10:48] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> AlexC_: whats your point?
[10:48] <SOSubuntuKO> HELP! i receive /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off.... CANNOT load ubuntu anymore...
[10:48] <erUSUL> strankan: do not thank me yet maybe it's not that easy...
[10:48] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> reinstalling freezes too
[10:48] <slippyr4> distant_voice: ok. if you changed owned, then the rwx in the user permission set would allow *you* to access the stuff - but group and everyone are still read-only. in this case you really want group and world to be able to write, hence permission change. and, yes, this will work fine after reboot.
[10:48] <AlexC_> UbuntuN00B_HBG: my point, that I've never heard of that before ... so no idea, sorry
[10:49] <slippyr4> sosubuntuko: there are errors listed above that. possibly something about cannot access root or something: for anyone to help you they'll need those errors
[10:49] <SirTouster> Any ideas? I would just like to start a program on a different desktop than I am at in the moment. Is this somehow posible? either in beryl or metacity ... Thanks alot :)
[10:49] <AlexC_> !repeat | SirTouster
[10:49] <ubotu> SirTouster: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:49] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> AlexC_: thats why Im asking for a hard core linux / apt-get wizard prior to asking my question! ;) (but again... i know youre not supposed to)
[10:49] <erUSUL> UbuntuN00B_HBG: so 'sudo dpkg -r --force-all' failed too?
[10:49] <SOSubuntuKO> slippyr4 ok i reboot and try to be back!
[10:49] <distant_voice> slippyr4: thanks. you are very kind :D
[10:50] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> erUSUL: yep
[10:50] <slippyr4> distant_voice: np
[10:50] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> erUSUL: one fellow suggested that the apt-get database might be corrupt... but had no idea of how to fix...
[10:50] <ewanm89> b0ri5: We are all lost when we first switch from Windows to UNIX. Those Error messages mean more here than in Windows world and we have more chance of fixing strange programs. Windows and Unix are still similar in some ways as they do very similar jobs.
[10:51] <SirTouster> AlexC: thnax :)
[10:51] <ewanm89> b0ri5: So stick with it
[10:51] <strankan> erUSUL: the font thing didnt work im afraid
[10:52] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> erUSUL: now im at a irritating state where i cant apt-get/dpkg/synaptic install ANYTHING since it wants to remove 'linux-restricted-modules' first, and then freezes when trying to! :(
[10:52] <erUSUL> strankan: it wasn't that easy after all :(
[10:52] <AlexC_> I think I may just change my name to AlexC instead of AlexC_ ... many always refuse to add the _ on so I don't get their message highlighted :P
[10:52] <slippyr4> i look forward to the day when linux just works out the box like windows does. ubuntu has brought that a lot closer, but it's still not there. for all it's bad points, windows is pretty good at 90% working on 90% of hardware.
[10:52] <Hasrat_Usa> windows is good
[10:52] <Enselic> yeah, windows is easier
[10:52] <ryanakca> should I bother using amd64? or just stick to i686... (AMD Athlon 64 3500+)
[10:53] <Enselic> its lame to not face it
[10:53] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  ;)
[10:53] <slippyr4> Alexc_ : reconfig your irc client to highlight misspellings of your nick too
[10:53] <Enselic> but by using Ubuntu, we can help it get closer
[10:53] <distant_voice> slippyr4:  you're right though
[10:53] <slippyr4> ryanakca: use amd64
[10:53] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> the problem with linux is like idiots like me can screw it up beyond repair! :P
[10:53] <ryanakca> slippyr4, kk, and, flash/codecs will work on it? as well as nvidia/beryl?
[10:53] <Mattias> !wallpaper-tray
[10:53] <Hasrat_Usa> but some people get pissed off when using windows and i'm one of them. and no thanks i find linux easier to use than windows because 1. i don't waste my time playing games, 2. i have the minimum education required to deal with linux
[10:53] <ubotu> wallpaper-tray: wallpaper changing utility for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.6-3build1 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 184 kB
[10:53] <slippyr4> ubuntun00b_hbg: same can happen with windows, but i think it's a bit harder
[10:54] <Mattias> wallpaper-tray isnt working
[10:54] <AlexC_> slippyr4: oh, never knew that was possible - how do I do that? (xchat)
[10:54] <smoenux> Hiya! Can someone please tell me how to work the Terminal Server Client? I'm trying to connect to a LAN pc, but don't know the Domain and Hostname etc?
[10:54] <rem_> hey, what soft can be used to divide a file in 2 ? like a 1gb file that you want to put on 2 cds .. (zip, rar, gzip .. ?)...and how ?
[10:54] <Mattias> the config menu is broken in wallpaper-tray yet its in the repos
[10:54] <AlexC_> smoenux: well, we wont know the Domain and hostname for you,
[10:54] <slippyr4> ryanakca: yes, amd64 can run i386 binaries too.
[10:54] <ryanakca> slippyr4, ah, nice :)
[10:54] <rem_> smoenux...the ip and user/pass should do it ..
[10:54] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> slippyr4: linux is more inviting for fiddling! :) anyway ive just recently migrating, by accident, and im staying here! (if i can get apt-get to work again)
[10:54] <slippyr4> alexc: no idea in xchat, sorry. rtm?
[10:55] <smoenux> Where do I put the IP in... under Client Hostname?
[10:55] <rem_> yea
[10:55] <AlexC_> slippyr4: just say AlexC again, please
[10:55] <rem_> sorry...no in "computer" ..
[10:55] <rem_> hey, what soft can be used to divide a file in 2 ? like a 1gb file that you want to put on 2 cds .. (zip, rar, gzip .. ?)...and how ?
[10:55] <smoenux> ah.. ok
[10:55] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> im and apt-get hell :(
[10:55] <AlexC_> !repeat | rem
[10:55] <ubotu> rem: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:56] <slippyr4> ubuntun00b_hbg: thats good. I get tired of all the pro windows/ slap linux and the pro linux / hate microsoft people. windows is a good product, linux is a good os, both have their places. i don't see the need for the fanboy attitudes that dominate
[10:56] <slippyr4> alexc
[10:56] <rem_> !patience
[10:56] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:56] <bjornolai> What command can I run to find my own ip on the internal network?
[10:56] <AlexC_> slippyr4: ahh, thanks :P that works good
[10:56] <rem_> njo uifconfig
[10:56] <rem_> ifconfig that was ..
[10:56] <mrpoundsign> hello
[10:56] <AlexC_> hi,
[10:57] <bjornolai> rem_, thanx
[10:57] <rem_> np
[10:57] <LucianSolaris> Can we all agree that Windows just flat out sucks donkeyballs?
[10:57] <padobot> 127.0.0.1 is your ip ;-)
[10:57] <padobot> Yes
[10:57] <AlexC_> padobot: !! how did you know?! you haxor
[10:57] <rem_> not lo but ethx ..
[10:57] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> slippyr4: my position is that there really is no need for the average user to buy a OS today... linux has ALL you need, and it works out of the box! im really looking forward to feisty. ubuntu isnt at a XP-user friendly level yet, but is is closing fast!
[10:57] <smoenux> rofl
[10:57] <padobot> ping localhost
[10:58] <slippyr4> rem_ : see man tar - in particular the -L option
[10:58] <entropy> hello, i'm having trouble sharing files using samba
[10:58] <hairulfr> Hey, how do I change/remove the splashscreen when ubuntu loads?
[10:58] <AlexC_> entropy: then ask a question related to it =)
[10:58] <maly> #linux.net
[10:58] <entropy> the problem is the following... i'm asked for a login and password when i try to view the files from another computer... however my login and password will not work
[10:58] <rem_> k...thx ... I was looking at zip and rar stuff...but tar might do it ..
[10:58] <krantix> hi! aticonfig seems not to work on an ati mobility 9200..... ERROR no screens found... i followed the ati tutorial...
[10:58] <slippyr4> i'd be looking forward to feisty if it had been called feisty ferret. Fawn sucks balls
[10:58] <AlexC_> !samba | entropy
[10:59] <ubotu> entropy: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:59] <kris_> czy kto wie jak si rozpakowuje pliki w ubuntu 6.10
[10:59] <justme> entropy, did you set your passwords with smbpasswd -a  ?
[10:59] <strankan> any ideas if its possible to change the encoding a special terminal uses? looks like i need UTF-8 to get swedish characters in rxvt
[10:59] <slippyr4> hairulfr: remove it by removing splash parameter to kernel (edit /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[10:59] <hairulfr> slippery4: Cheers,
[11:00] <Hasrat_Usa> if i install kde in Ubuntu, would it really be worth the labour?
[11:01] <AlexC_> Hasrat_Usa: you mean sitting back while aptitude installs the files? very labour intensive process I agree ...
[11:01] <slippyr4> hasrat_usa - it's not a lot of labour. kubuntu is what you're looking for.
[11:01] <justme> entropy:  did you set your passwords with smbpasswd -a  ?
[11:01] <yommp28> hmm how is the "ati binary how to" working out for you guys ?
[11:01] <entropy> i didnt
[11:01] <Hasrat_Usa> no i want to install kubuntu-desktop from Ubunutu's GNOME
[11:01] <AlexC_> Hasrat_Usa: or, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[11:01] <Assid> err.. i have a copyt of kubuntu desktop 6.06.1 .. i plan to install kde.. should i install the packages from synaptics ? or can i use this disc instead?
[11:01] <entropy> thanks justme
[11:01] <ryanakca> Hasrat_Usa, open terminal and run this command:      sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:02] <AlexC_> I'd got aptitude over apt-get for 'large' files like KDE
[11:02] <Hasrat_Usa> ryanakca but would it work okay in Ubunutu? if it did work alright, why did they make Kubuntu?
[11:02] <justme> entropy: That might be your problem.  Use the same user name and password as your windows machine uses.
[11:02] <slippyr4> assid: you could reinstall using that cd and have kde, or you can do what ryanakca just said if you currently run ubuntu
[11:02] <AlexC_> Hasrat_Usa: so you don't have to download Ubuntu first? Kubuntu is KDE from the go
[11:02] <jordo23> Anyone here familar with ISTANBUL: desktop recorder?  I am wondering where the program outputs video to by default.
[11:03] <Hasrat_Usa> uh okay
[11:03] <AlexC_> woops, gotta go! missing a film :P
[11:03] <AlexC_> bye
[11:03] <ryanakca> Hasrat_Usa, It would work ok, so that you have KDE by default instead of GNOME? and if you want GNOME by default, UBUNTU
[11:03] <Assid> slippyr4: yeah but is it possible for me to use that disc as a source ? will it work? cause i wanna avoid downloading as much as i can
[11:03] <ryanakca> Assid, you'd have to add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:03] <ryanakca> Assid, (I think)... but it's infinitly easier just to download it... it's not that much either
[11:04] <entropy> justme, na... i used a different one, i like the idea of people having to login for the files... just didnt know i had to set a different password then the ones for the users on my machine
[11:04] <entropy> its working now
[11:04] <entropy> :)
[11:04] <Assid> ryanakca: approx how much?
[11:04] <slippyr4> assid: yes, if you add it as a source in /etc/apt/sources.list then it'll get what it can off the cd
[11:04] <pontus99> I'm trying to mount my fat32 slave drive and GParted says it's mounted but I can't access it. what should I do?
[11:04] <ryanakca> Assid, run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", and then when it asks you if you're sure, just go N. It should say
[11:04] <ryanakca> Anywais, bbl
[11:05] <slippyr4> pontus99: why are you using gparted here? surely you don't want to **edit** your partitions? you just want to access it?
[11:05] <pontus99> I was told to so
[11:05] <justme> entropy: So do the logins work?
[11:05] <pontus99> LOL
[11:05] <cmh0101> What is that middle bar called that loads up after you login called?  It loads Windows Manager, nautilus..etc
[11:05] <slippyr4> pontus99: tip: sudo mount - look for lines containing your fat32;s device name. what does it say
[11:05] <betatux> Question , How come there is no startup script in /etc/init.d for the pppd ? The ppp package has been installed , the binary for the daemon is listed /usr/sbin/pppd.
[11:05] <Assid> ryanakca: hrmm okay.. doing software update right now.. so gotta wait
[11:05] <pontus99> hdb1
[11:06] <entropy> justme, yea i set a password for my username(entropy) and now i can login normally from the other machine
[11:06] <slippyr4> betatux: pppd is launched by whatever needs it
[11:06] <Assid> Hasrat_Usa: you there?
[11:06] <justme> entropy: cool, enjoy
[11:06] <betatux> slippyr4, i see, ok thanks
[11:06] <entropy> thanks mate
[11:06] <slippyr4> betatux: ppp, on it's own, is useless. you run ppp over some other layer - a modem connection, a vpn tunnel etc. those things will bring up pppd
[11:07] <cchance> What does paperweight mean on this site? Where can i get the driver for the printer? http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-P6250 ITs the only one i got and im not buying a new one
[11:07] <rem_> fyi tar -cMp -f data1.tar -f data2.tar -f data3.tar -L 200M file1 file2 file3
[11:07] <jli> hello
[11:07] <slippyr4> cchance: sorry, but it means your printer is 100% not supported
[11:07] <betatux> slippyr4, right , i'm trying to setup a VPN server
[11:07] <pontus99> slippry4: /dev/hdb1 on /media/prime type ext3 (rw)
[11:07] <Khem> I have ubuntu installed but I want to have KDE on it is it possible to apt-get KDE
[11:07] <OuZo> anybody know of any good ebook irc channels? thanks
[11:08] <cchance> slippyr4, so im going to have to build my own drivers?
[11:08] <pontus99> I formated it to see if it would work with ext3
[11:08] <slippyr4> rem_ put a v in the options too so you can see what it's doing
[11:08] <Enselic> OuZo: wikibooks.org?
[11:08] <fluvvell> I've been trying to share my printer over the local ubuntu lan and its just a big stuffup.  the cupsd.conf file is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7104/ and the errors I'm getting in the logs now that I've set debug level on are in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7102/.  The printer prints locally
[11:08] <frying_fish> Khem: yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:08] <jli> is there someone who kowns how to install a logiciel ?
[11:08] <Assid> Khem:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:08] <OuZo> Enselic: thanks :)
[11:08] <Khem> frying_fish: thanks and will it muck up with my ubuntu
[11:08] <slippyr4> pontus99: then it's not a fat32 partition if you put ext3 on it, is it?
[11:08] <frying_fish> will give you the standard kubuntu desktop, but you can just apt-get install kde, but it won't give all the extras that kubuntu will normally put on, just the base kde stuff
[11:09] <frying_fish> Khem: it will replace gdm with kdm, and change your splash on boot, from what I remember, but it shouldn't "break" it
[11:09] <pontus99> well I want it fat32 but I couldn't get it to work so I formated it to see if that would work. but I want it to be fat32 so I can use it on any machine
[11:09] <Khem> Assid: frying_fish so I will have both kde and gnome then
[11:09] <jli> in fact, i have installed a logiciel but i don't kwon how to use it.
[11:09] <frying_fish> Khem: yes
[11:09] <Assid> yes
[11:09] <frying_fish> I currently have xfce and gnome on mine
[11:09] <Khem> cool guys thanks
[11:09] <jli> hello.......
[11:09] <fluvvell> the bit that really gets me is cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. Does anyone have any idea about cups?
[11:09] <frying_fish> mostly as I can't be bothered to get rid of gnome, and my girlfriend has an account on this machine and she still uses gnome.
[11:10] <jli> anybody helps me
[11:10] <pontus99> slippry4: I'm formatting it back to fat32 right now
[11:10] <Assid> i need to start using this machine more :P
[11:10] <LinTux> I have install KDE via sudo apt-get install kde, but I do not have a setting to change the screen res, any ideas?
[11:10] <root__> hi all
[11:10] <slippyr4> pontus99: do fdisk /dev/hdb and then press p, what does it say for hdb1 in the "System" column. also, please quote my nick in replies so it gets highlighted
[11:11] <fluvvell> And what pissed me off the most was that I had it working on my dapper machine, then for  no reason except for a cupsys update install, it all stopped back in november. sometime.
[11:11] <pontus99> slippyr4: will do sir
[11:11] <slippyr4> pontus99 thanks
[11:11] <slippyr4> pontus99 it's a bit busy here so coments can get lost
[11:11] <root__> I am told to install "sun-java5-jre", when it do a #apt-get install sun-java5-jre, it tells me there is no installation candidate. How do I search for a suitable package?
[11:11] <OuZo> Enselic: thanks this is good, i was looking for a site or irc channel that i could download ebooks to & send them to my smart phone
[11:12] <frying_fish> have to say glad I went back to xfce, since I always preferred it to gnome in a way, but liked some of gnomes features, that are now covered by xfce (and its faster)
[11:12] <erUSUL> root__: it is multiverse, have you enabled it?
[11:12] <root__> erUSUL: no idea
[11:12] <erUSUL> !repos > root__
[11:12] <oduarte> guys.. this is WEIRD. i was changing my icons themes in themes option.. and.. sudenly gnome stops.. now, when i try to run gdm - gnome, i log in and it STOPS loading the modules in the splash screen . . .
[11:12] <royel> !java | root__
[11:12] <ubotu> root__: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[11:12] <frying_fish> root__: apt-cache search sun-java5-jre and see what it brings up, if nothing check you enabled multiverse
[11:12] <sam__> hei. can't install theese nvidia drivers
[11:12] <oduarte> I need help, my PC is unusable.
[11:12] <LinTux> I installed KDE via sudo apt-get install kde, but I do not have a setting to change the screen res, any ideas?
[11:12] <root__> thanks
[11:12] <padobot> switch it off
[11:12] <oduarte> Im using Edgy.
[11:12] <Meshezabee1> Greetings, how do I find script files in ubuntu?
[11:12] <Flannel> root__: on a side note, you shouldn't be running as root.  Heck, ubuntu doesn't need a root account.
[11:12] <Enselic> OuZo: nice
[11:12] <frying_fish> LinTux: is the resolution listed in xorg.conf, if not then yiou prob won't be able to select it anyway.
[11:12] <root__> Flannel: oops
[11:13] <OuZo> Enselic: dont suppose u know of anything like that?
[11:13] <erUSUL> Mattias: what type of script files ??
[11:13] <royel> Flannel: I was about to tell him what a good idea is it to be using IRC as root :)
[11:13] <smoenux> When using 'Terminal Server Client' to connect to a LAN pc (also on Linux), What Protocol do I use
[11:13] <slippyr4> flannel: thats debatable at best. of course ubuntu needs a root account. but whether you need to log in to it or not is debatable.
[11:13] <smoenux> RDP or VNC?
[11:13] <zcat[1] > !sudo | root
[11:13] <ubotu> root: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:13] <erUSUL> smoenux: rdp afaik
[11:13] <Enselic> OuZo: nope
[11:13] <OuZo> Enselic: i am google-ing but im finding irc channels that no longer exist
[11:13] <sam__> i have installed theese glx drivers, but is seemes it doesn't load the kernel module (after a update)
[11:13] <varange> hi all
[11:13] <pontus99> slippyr4: won't let me do fdisk /dev/hdb
[11:14] <Flannel> welcome back varange.
[11:14] <slippyr4> pontus99 sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[11:14] <varange> how do I search for packages to install?
[11:14] <Meshezabee1> erUSUL, I have a problem and it says to add a line to the netbeans script file, but I wouldn't know what it looks like or where it is, this is the page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2096598
[11:14] <Enselic> varange: apt-cache search package
[11:14] <asilva> OLA
[11:14] <erUSUL> sam__: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic ?
[11:14] <varange> please post that URL again
[11:14] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: you still here?
[11:14] <varange> thx Enselic
[11:14] <asilva> TEM ALGUEM AI
[11:14] <erUSUL> !pt | asilva
[11:14] <ubotu> asilva: pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:15] <asilva> COMO FAO ISSO
[11:15] <royel> RkyRaccoon55: I hope you have good news, but you were gone a long time
[11:15] <rem_> fyi tar -cMp -f data1.tar -f data2.tar -f data3.tar -L 200M file1 file2 file3
[11:15] <rem_> Invalid tape length :(
[11:15] <pontus99> slippyr4: Disk /dev/hdb: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes
[11:15] <pontus99> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders
[11:15] <pontus99> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[11:15] <pontus99>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[11:15] <pontus99> /dev/hdb1               1       48641   390708801    b  W95 FAT32
[11:15] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: im running it from the live cd right now
[11:15] <slippyr4> rem_ tape length is numeric and in Kb
[11:15] <varange> Enselic: I need to install the JRE5 from Sun. Can't find a package
[11:15] <slippyr4> rem_ so 200000 would be about 200 MB
[11:15] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: it wasnt a blue screen, it seemed to freeze during ubuntu loading
[11:15] <asilva> como fao isso
[11:16] <erUSUL> Meshezabee1: what 'file $(which netbeans)' says?
[11:16] <Flannel> asilva: english only here please
[11:16] <pontus99> slippyr4: sorry didn't know it was gona get put into separate lines
[11:16] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: it got like 95% there then a staggered blie bar appeared bleow the status bar and it stopped
[11:16] <quaal> anyone here use openvpn ? im trying to setup kvpnc.. not sure if its the best program or not. i have an openvpn with a PKI authentication
[11:16] <asilva> ubotu como fao isso
[11:16] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: blue
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about como fao isso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <Enselic> varange: search for jre dont give you anything?
[11:16] <slippyr4> pontus99: so do mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1 and you should be good to go
[11:16] <royel> !es | asilva
[11:16] <ubotu> asilva: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:16] <pontus99> slippyr4: will try that thx
[11:16] <Beltz> If I use the LiveCD on a USB drive, will I be able to install stuff and use it as any normal operating system?
[11:17] <varange> Enselic: nope, or not the JRE
[11:17] <RkyRaccoon55> royel: i tried to recover the way you told me and it said "that it couldnt find the xorg.conf file
[11:17] <varange> Enselic: things like Kaffe :)
[11:17] <sam__> erUSUL: i installed them, but if i say: insmod/modprobe he sys: no such file
[11:17] <Beltz> And be able to install new applications, etc. so that I can use it on various PCs?
[11:17] <slippyr4> pontus99: don't forget to sudo that. i always forget sudo.
[11:17] <Enselic> varange: weird, I get this: sun-java5-jre
[11:17] <niyi> anyone know why my kae command refuses to work
[11:18] <pontus99> slippyr4: yeah but it said it contains a mounted file system
[11:18] <socialdisorder> i'm need of a lot of help! I have install the latest Ubuntu onto my computer and i'm need help install the correct Nvidia drivers for a 7900GT card. Can anyone help?
[11:18] <Enselic> niyi: kae?
[11:18] <pontus99> slippyr4: so I need to unmount it first?
[11:18] <rem_> k slip ill try that...I saw that there was a "split" command too btw ...
[11:18] <slippyr4> !nvidia | socialdisorder
[11:18] <ubotu> socialdisorder: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:18] <niyi> when i use the ./configure command its fine
[11:18] <cmh0101> What is that middle bar called that loads up after you login called?  It loads Windows Manager, nautilus..etc
[11:18] <niyi> but the make command jsut brings up 'no targets specified'
[11:18] <slippyr4> cmh0101 what do you mean? the progress bar?
[11:19] <yellat> any reason why evolution wouldn't allow me to make/load/ delete calendars, appointments, etc?
[11:19] <quaal> anyone here use openvpn ? im trying to setup kvpnc.. not sure if its the best program or not. i have an openvpn with a PKI authentication
[11:19] <Khem> frying_fish: once I install kbuntu-desktop will it be my default desktop or will I have choice to pick KDE or GNOME
[11:19] <cmh0101> slippyr4, yes the progress bar. I it freezes at startup and i want to get rid of it
[11:19] <erUSUL> sam__: :( then i dunno
[11:19] <frying_fish> Khem: pass, you can still pick, but it may make it the default
[11:19] <Meshezabee1> erUSUL, not sure what you asked me, but I have the same problem as on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2096598 where I get a white screen in NetBeans, it tells me to add a line to the netbeans script file, but I can't find the script file because I don't know what it is called, netbeans was installed to /opt/netbeans/ but I don't know if there is some place else I need to find the script file
[11:20] <Flannel> Khem: you'll have a choice when you login (at GDM/KDM, seelct "sessions" to choose)
[11:20] <frying_fish> when you log out, and go to login you should have the option
[11:20] <cafuego_> cmh0101: the splash screen
[11:20] <slippyr4> quaal: theres a #openvpn on freenode
[11:20] <IMMA-CHARGIN-MAH> How can I install Beryl.
[11:20] <quaal> slippyr4, oh, thanks
[11:20] <asilva> alguem fala p
[11:20] <cafuego_> !pt
[11:20] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:20] <slippyr4> cmh0101: i doubt it's the progress bar itself, more likely something else is freezing.
[11:20] <sam__> erUSUL, but the correct name for the module i have to load is "nvidia" still??
[11:20] <Khem> Flannel: thats what I expected I hope I will get Beryl also working on KDE as I have it on gnome
[11:20] <asilva> sdgfg
[11:21] <Meshezabee1> erUSUL there is a netbeans.conf but I don't know if that is the script file?
[11:21] <reportingsjr> What would be the reason Ubuntu keeps freezing on me?
[11:21] <erUSUL> Meshezabee1: the script is the executable you use to launch netbeans.... maybe /opt/netbeans/bin/netbeans or something like that
[11:21] <IMMA-CHARGIN-MAH> How can I install Beryl.
[11:21] <IMMA-CHARGIN-MAH> ?*
[11:21] <cmh0101> slippyr4, Its actually a beryl problem. Thr progress bar wont close but everything works. I already asked in #beryl
[11:21] <erUSUL> !beryl | IMMA-CHARGIN-MAH
[11:21] <ubotu> IMMA-CHARGIN-MAH: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:21] <slippyr4> cmh0101: oh, sorry i know nothing about beryl
[11:21] <slipstream3d> Hi, does anyone have any idea what the difference between /blah/bin/ and /blah/sbin/ is?
[11:21] <pontus99> slippyr4: ok I tried to mount it but nothing happened. shouldn't there be an icon on the desktop?
[11:22] <lukasz> jest t ujaki polak?
[11:22] <lukasz> :D
[11:22] <Meshezabee1> erUSUL, ok thanks! does it matter if I add the line to the beginning or end, or it shouldn't matter?
[11:22] <erUSUL> slipstream3d: sbin is for adminstrative binaries binaries only used by root
[11:22] <slippyr4> pontus99: not necessary. try to browse to it from the root directory
[11:22] <rem_> ty it works .. :)
[11:22] <erUSUL> Meshezabee1: i dunno but it is best in the beginning i think
[11:22] <reportingsjr> Whats the best way to install PHP5?
[11:23] <slipstream3d> so even though Squid *says* it should put the binary in /usr/local/squid/bin and it's in /usr/local/squid/sbin/, since it's being run by "root" anyway it should be ok?
[11:23] <reportingsjr> Actually apache 2
[11:23] <Flannel> reportingsjr: sudo apt-get install php5
[11:23] <pontus99> slippyr4: how would that tell me if it worked? it is empty after all.
[11:23] <bruenig> !info php5
[11:23] <ubotu> php5: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.6-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
[11:23] <Flannel> !lamp | reportingsjr
[11:23] <ubotu> reportingsjr: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:23] <Meshezabee1> erUSUL, ok, thanks! And sorry for being such a n00b :)
[11:23] <Flannel> reportingsjr: see that page
[11:23] <Soccer5555> i need help getting my printer installed
[11:23] <reportingsjr> thank you
[11:23] <erUSUL> Meshezabee1: no problem
[11:23] <niyi> when isntalling things in terminal what do you do if it claims there is no make file?
[11:23] <Soccer5555> i have an hp psc 1510
[11:23] <mindstate> niyi, sudo apt-get install make
[11:23] <pontus99> slippyr4: in case you can't tell I'm pretty new to linux
[11:23] <unop> slipstream3d,  /blah/{bin,sbin} do not exist and therefore have no significance, so how do you expect one to tell the difference? :> :p
[11:24] <bruenig> !info build-essential
[11:24] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[11:24] <slippyr4> pontus99: ok then, in a shell, type mount - which should show you what is mounted. or, type df - which shows you free space on mounted partitions, then change to the mount point and type "touch testfile" then you should be able to see a file
[11:24] <slipstream3d> unop: har har
[11:24] <briancann> hey guys, trying to fiqure out a radio streaming problem Im getting from this site on the "lauch radio player" button.  Its a stream that works in win media player and real player, I cant get there player workin on this comp although mine works perfectly
[11:24] <pontus99> slippyr4: k thx
[11:24] <bruenig> briancann, have you tried mozilla-mplayer
[11:24] <slipstream3d> niyi: do "sudo aptitude install build-essentials" to get all the things neccessary for compiling/installing software with makefiles and the like
[11:25] <unop> slipstream3d,  the way i see it */sbin usually houses various binaries used by the system for the system -- nothing to do with the user (well, the distinction nowadays is very fuzzy)
[11:25] <niyi> got them already
[11:25] <bruenig> slipstream3d, build-essential*
[11:25] <mindstate> its essential
[11:25] <slipstream3d> oops, my bad
[11:25] <yellat> so no one has any idea why right clicking, hitting new appointment does nothing?
[11:25] <royel> briancann: do you have restricted formats support?
[11:26] <slippyr4> slipstream3d: sbin should contain stuff for superuser only. bin contains regular system wide executables.
[11:26] <Soccer5555> can anybody help me install my printer
[11:26] <gregg> Hi
[11:26] <pontus99> slippyr4: it's not showing it
[11:26] <briancann> royel, oh yes ovcourse
[11:26] <unop> slipstream3d,  a binary may run from any location (provided it does not depend on other files relative to it's intended path) subject to permissions for the user running the program in the directory
[11:26] <bruenig> Soccer5555, you tried the printer setup in ubuntu and what is the problem?
[11:26] <slippyr4> yellat: it maybe objects to your violent abuse. perhaps tap new appointment, rather than hit it
[11:26] <Soccer5555> it still cant find it
[11:26] <gregg> I am a noobie to ubuntu and trying to figure out why Firefox when scrolling is slow and jerky
[11:26] <Soccer5555> and now i cant open it
[11:26] <Soccer5555> well i could only find printing
[11:27] <bruenig> Soccer5555, what kind of printer
[11:27] <slippyr4> pontus99 - what is not showing what
[11:27] <Soccer5555> hp psc 1510
[11:27] <slipstream3d> hmm. the makefile put the "squid" binary in /usr/local/squid/sbin/ instead of /usr/local/squid/bin/ like the (albeit very old) documentation said it would, but since it's a background process, i shouldn't be too concerned (i thought it had something to do with static linking, not system...)
[11:27] <pontus99> slippyr4: mount is not showing that hard drive. shows my externals but not my internal slave
[11:27] <royel> briancann: you said it works on your, I assume in both cases were talking about Linux systems, are you also using the same player on both machines?
[11:27] <slippyr4> gregg: cos you have the wrong x-server running, or no drivers. you have an nvidia or an ati card??
[11:27] <bruenig> Soccer5555, hp should work
[11:27] <gregg> ati card
[11:27] <Soccer5555> do i need the cd that came with it
[11:27] <slippyr4> pontus99: then it's probably not mounted. how did you try to mount it?
[11:27] <Soccer5555> for installation
[11:28] <slippyr4> !ati | greg
[11:28] <pontus99> I mounted it with GParted
[11:28] <ubotu> greg: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:28] <slippyr4> !ati | gregg
[11:28] <ubotu> gregg: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:28] <pontus99> slippyr4:I mounted it with GParted
[11:28] <slippyr4> gregg: follow that tutoral
[11:28] <gregg> Thank you Slippery4
[11:28] <bruenig> Soccer5555, no, it uses the hplip driver, just go to system>administration>printing and follow the prompts
[11:28] <Hasrat_Usa> i gotta go
[11:28] <slippyr4> pontus99: didn't know gparted mounted stuff.
[11:28] <pontus99> slippyr4: it was an ntfs drive until yesterday. and I got that working by myself. but ever since I formated it I can't get it to work
[11:28] <briancann> royel, playiong the stream in a player is fine, although that stations own player is only working for 1 - 2 mins then stopping? My ubuntu install is perfect though
[11:29] <briancann> royel, as in my own computers
[11:29] <Soccer5555> the application printing will no longer open up
[11:29] <Soccer5555> it opens for a fraction of a second then closes
[11:29] <slippyr4> pontus99: you need to create a mount point for it (aka an empty directory)( eg /media/sdb1) and then you can mount it by running sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[11:29] <opapo> I can not get nessus to work on my box
[11:29] <Lord_Flasheart> hi, i am trying to install kubuntu on my new laptop. i have installed it from the text installer, and am unable to boot into the operating system - it stops after 'Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [OK] '. the specifications of the machine are: http://www.rockdirect.com/support/product_view.php?product_qa_id=144&size=min. does anyone have any idea what is wrong?
[11:29] <pontus99> slippyr4: will do
[11:29] <slippyr4> pontus99: then your new disk will be available at /media/sdb1
[11:29] <bruenig> Soccer5555, see if anyone knows the command for the printing dialog, I am on xubuntu or I would find it
[11:30] <royel> gregg: hey
[11:30] <Soccer5555> im on xubuntu to
[11:30] <Soccer5555> :P
[11:30] <reportingsjr> Do you think there is something wrong with my computer if ubuntu keeps freezing?
[11:30] <Soccer5555> so its apps>sett>printing
[11:30] <gregg> yes royel
[11:30] <yellat> does anyone know of a channel where i could get help with evolution, not trying to do anything fancy, just would like to know why calendaring doesn't seem to work?
[11:31] <bruenig> Soccer5555, ok, well then open a terminal and type, system-config-printer
[11:31] <erUSUL> Lord_Flasheart: maybe you should try a few boot options...
[11:31] <pontus99> slippyr4: you mean hdb1 not sdb1 right?
[11:31] <slippyr4> yellat: #gnome would be a start
[11:31] <erUSUL> ubotu tell Lord_Flasheart about boot | Lord_Flasheart see priv msg from ubotu
[11:31] <slippyr4> pontus99: yeah, sorry.
[11:31] <opapo> I keep getting a blank report when I run nessus on my machine.
[11:31] <yellat> slippyr4 thank you
[11:31] <royel> gregg: this is another good alternative way to install nvidia drivers, might want to check it along with the ubuntu tutorial an determine which option you may prefer; http://lunapark6.com/?p=2717
[11:31] <slippyr4> pontus99: substitute your device names for my assumptions
[11:31] <slippyr4> and poor judgement
[11:31] <pontus99> slippyr4: k. I did that.
[11:32] <gregg> ok.... thanks
[11:32] <Soccer5555> IndexError: list index out of range
[11:32] <Soccer5555> after a lot of other stuff
[11:32] <slippyr4> pontus99: what does mount, or df show now?
[11:32] <reportingsjr> Do you think there is something wrong with my computer if ubuntu keeps freezing or what do you think it is?
[11:32] <pontus99> slippyr4: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[11:32] <pontus99> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[11:32] <pontus99> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[11:32] <pontus99> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[11:32] <pontus99> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[11:32] <pontus99> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[11:32] <pontus99> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[11:33] <slipstream3d> Man, Windows is starting to piss me off (AGAIN). My logitech mouse drivers are detecting my IRC client as a "game" and changing mouse acceleration!
[11:33] <pontus99> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[11:33] <pontus99> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[11:33] <pontus99> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[11:33] <reportingsjr> I have a 1k MHz processor, 16.8 gb of space on Hard drive
[11:33] <bruenig> !paste
[11:33] <pontus99> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[11:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:33] <pontus99> /dev/sda1 on /media/THE DUDE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[11:33] <pontus99> /dev/sdb1 on /media/BIGGER type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[11:33] <pontus99> /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type vfat (rw)
[11:33] <Vilhelms> Okay, I have a problem that when I run beryl my gnome keyboard shorcuts (Such as alt+f2) stop working. I'm not sure why.
[11:33] <erUSUL> ubotu tell pontus99 about paste | pontus99 see priv msg from ubotu
[11:34] <reportingsjr> anyone going to answer my question?
[11:34] <iamtheric> ok need help installing vmware
[11:34] <royel> briancann: I really dont understand what your saying at this point, You say the stream won't work (on computer A) but works on (yours, computer B) .. are you using the same Players on both A an B or is it a different player??
[11:34] <bruenig> reportingsjr, telling us your computer specs is not a question
[11:34] <sergiu> hello
[11:34] <bruenig> reportingsjr, unless you said something before moron paste guy that got buried
[11:34] <reportingsjr> for the third time I will paste it: Do you think there is something wrong with my computer if ubuntu keeps freezing or what do you think it is?
[11:34] <fluvvell> I've been trying to share my printer over the local ubuntu lan and its just a big stuffup.  the cupsd.conf file is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7104/ and the errors I'm getting in the logs now that I've set debug level on are in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7102/.  The printer prints locally
[11:34] <shwag> is there a howto for setting up twinview ?
[11:35] <sergiu> how to enter to an local ip adress (i'm using xubuntu)
[11:35] <slippyr4> pontus99: next time, don't paste so much into the channel - there are alternatives (see pastebin.org etc). however, you now have your drive successfully mounted
[11:35] <slippyr4> pontus99: it's at /media/hdb1
[11:35] <bruenig> reportingsjr, well that is so vague, either computer or ubuntu
[11:35] <royel> Vilhelms: dont use Beryl :)
[11:35] <cchance> Where can i get the windows component for vmware? I installed the player from add/remove but i dont know if it will play windows automaticaly
[11:35] <pontus99> slippyr4: yeah I got a warning about the pasting LOL
[11:35] <pontus99> slippyr4 how do I access it now
[11:35] <reportingsjr> Well, im not running any programs on it besides firefox. So do you think that it is the hardware?
[11:36] <pontus99> slippyr4 it's not showing on my desktop
[11:36] <royel> Vilhelms: candy will rot your teeth
[11:36] <Vilhelms> royel, :P
[11:36] <javb> People, im using banshee in Ubuntu Edgy, it opnes in taskbar nad system tray, is there anyway i can JUST place it in System tray?
[11:36] <fluvvell> reportingsjr: are you running dapper or edgy
[11:36] <reportingsjr> I mean, I dont get any errors it just freezes. Mouse is fine...
[11:36] <reportingsjr> Umm, I dont know
[11:36] <Vilhelms> royel, I apologize, I meant to ask in #beryl but thanks for the tip. Or not
[11:36] <bruenig> reportingsjr, the only way that I could imagine testing this is fresh installing or putting another distro on it and see if the problem persists, if it does, hardware, if it doesn't ubuntu
[11:36] <iamtheric> vmware?!?!
[11:36] <fluvvell> System->About Ubuntu
[11:36] <slippyr4> pontus99: you can browse to it from the root ("/"). if you add an entry to fstab then it'll appear on your desktop. however you will need to ask someone else to help you with that cos i have to go to bed now
[11:36] <fluvvell> reportingsjr: System->About Ubuntu
[11:36] <royel> Vilhelms: lol, sorry.. I have no clue really, but I had to poke fun at you :)
[11:36] <reportingsjr> I just reinstalled but with the same as before
[11:36] <slippyr4> pontus99: it's late and i'm tired.
[11:36] <socialdisorder> ok when i start i get   Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA Kernel module has the bersion 1.0-9746, but this X module has the version 1.0-8776.
[11:37] <bruenig> reportingsjr, try another distro
[11:37] <pontus99> slippyr4 gotcha. thanks alot for your patience and help
[11:37] <reportingsjr> where would I get one? I am using 6.10 right now
[11:37] <Vilhelms> royel, I understand :) I got tired of them for a while because I was having problems... but after a few days I missed them :( I expected my windows to wobble everytime I moved it. I got spoiled =\
[11:37] <slippyr4> pontus99: be asking something like how can i edit fstab to automount /dev/hdb1 ?
[11:37] <bruenig> reportingsjr, there are many, go to distrowatch.com and pick one
[11:37] <slippyr4> pontus99: that will get you the help you need next. no problems, l8rs
[11:37] <reportingsjr> ok :)
[11:37] <pontus99>  how can i edit fstab to automount /dev/hdb1 ?
[11:37] <slipstream3d> reportinsjr: try out the Knoppix live cd. you don't have to modify your hard drive, it boots off the CD.
[11:37] <agnostic> sergiu, you are from RO?
[11:38] <slippyr4> pontus99: heh
[11:38] <sergiu> agnostic: from MD
[11:38] <fluvvell> reportingsjr, 6.06 is the most stable
[11:38] <bobda> exit
[11:38] <pontus99> slippyr4 thx =D
[11:38] <royel> Vilhelms: I tried it, I can't say I liked it, though it does have a certain cool factor, it just had more irritating nuisances than "cool" for me to stick with it
[11:38] <erUSUL> ubotu tell pontus99 about ntfs | pontus99 see priv msg from ubotu
[11:38] <slipstream3d> also, try the ubuntu "memtest86" entry in the boot menu, when rebooting the computer - if that gives you any errors, you have a bad mainboard, or ram, or power supply, or something
[11:38] <reportingsjr> I will try that one then
[11:38] <sergiu> agnostic: MD- Moldavia :)
[11:38] <reportingsjr> thank you
[11:38] <agnostic> i know:)
[11:38] <Vilhelms> royel, Heh, yeah... the first time it was annoying until I went through all the configuration, then I disabled what I didn't like and left what I liked ;)
[11:39] <socialdisorder> ok when i start i get   Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA Kernel module has the bersion 1.0-9746, but this X module has the version 1.0-8776.
[11:39] <ahave> i am trying to talk a friend into trying ubuntu/*nix distro... and the main selling point for him using MS is playing games. what is a good counter for that?
[11:39] <linxeh> is there a .chm reader for linux ?
[11:39] <linxeh> ahave: cedega
[11:39] <fluvvell> reportingsjr, you could also look into other  support options if this channel is too busy to help you.
[11:39] <zcat[1] > ahave: "get an xbox" :-)
[11:39] <linxeh> ahave: I play WoW on linux
[11:39] <royel> Vilhelms: I didnt like how it tore my window decorations away an took my ability to resize windows, they were either small boxes, or full screen, no adjustment.. this was with another distro though as well.
[11:40] <Ranbee> reportingsjr: you can run the command top to see if a process taking up all the cpu cycles
[11:40] <agnostic> linxeh, CHM Viewer
[11:40] <joerack> can anybody help me using locate for ubuntu?
[11:40] <ahave> zcat[1] , linxeh : but for most comp app games.. like fear, doom 3 etc can linux run them?
[11:40] <ahave> with wine perhaps?
[11:40] <slipstream3d> joerack: what's the problem?
[11:40] <socialdisorder> can anyone help me with my nvidia kerenl? is not where else can i try?
[11:40] <Vilhelms> royel, Oh, Hrm... I never had those problems
[11:40] <zcat[1] > ahave, afaik it's possible to run most games, but not usually easy.
[11:41] <zcat[1] > ahave, better to dual-boot or get a console for gaming imho..
[11:41] <royel> Vilhelms: it was beryl aiglx enabled Sabayon distro, if ever you get curious
[11:41] <slipstream3d> socialdisorder: you have to reinstall your nvidia drivers when you do a kernel update. i'm not entirely sure the process for it, since my ubuntu box has an ATi card
[11:41] <joerack> slipstream3d: I've installed mondo backup for linux using the repositories of synaptic but I can't find the installed application
[11:41] <IMMA-CHARGIN-MAH> What's a good window decoration manager?
[11:42] <ahave> zcat[1] , yes. dual boot is what i suggest.
[11:42] <Vilhelms> royel, I heard about Sabayon once... I don't know much about it though
[11:42] <linxeh> agnostic: ok ta
[11:42] <IMMA-CHARGIN-MAH> That doesn't rewuire a long setup.
[11:42] <slipstream3d> joerack: try typing 'updatedb' at the console to have the thing re-list your entire system
[11:42] <socialdisorder> how do you uninstall all the drivers and start from sratch?
[11:42] <linxeh> ahave: doom3 has a native linux port I thought
[11:42] <IMMA-CHARGIN-MAH> Require.*
[11:42] <joerack> slipstream3d: i have
[11:42] <Xzenome> !hi | Xzenome
[11:42] <Vilhelms> Whats the command to the run app (alt+f2)?
[11:42] <Flannel> Vilhelms: that's the run dialog, yeah
[11:42] <linxeh> ahave: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/
[11:42] <zcat[1] > some games have native linux versions.. but not many.
[11:42] <royel> Vilhelms: its a prebuilt gentoo dist, it's pretty good, but I did my year or so with Gentoo already an I really can't handle emerge anymore :)
[11:42] <Vilhelms> Flannel, Whats the actual command for it?
[11:42] <weggpod> hy
[11:42] <Vilhelms> royel, haha, i've been thinking of dual booting gentoo to try it out... is it not worth it?
[11:42] <ahave> linxeh, well that was just an example. i was trying to refer to most of the mainsream games that are coming out
[11:42] <slipstream3d> royel: damn, really? portage (emerge) is the only thing I miss from Gentoo...
[11:43] <linxeh> ahave: buy an xbox, or have a windows gaming machine
[11:43] <weggpod> how setup the min frequence scaling on cpu ?
[11:43] <linxeh> ahave: he's going to need vista soon for most games anyway
[11:43] <royel> slipstream3d: let me rephrase that then, I love the setup of emerge, I hate compiling for days .. I'm not a very patient guy!
[11:43] <Cursed> hi all
[11:43] <Cursed> whats up
[11:43] <zcat[1] > damn unlocking old xbox drives is _hard_
[11:44] <IMMA-CHARGIN-MAH> What's a good window decoration manager?
[11:44] <slipstream3d> royel: ahh, well, i wish they'd add portage to Ubuntu - it does support binary distributions (precompiled), there just aren't many available due to the nature of Gentoo
[11:44] <Cursed> Metacity
[11:44] <royel> slipstream3d: for teh amount of optimization you gain for time invested.. I'd rather just load a binary :)
[11:44] <Xzenome> Is it possible to customise the the Ubuntu information balloon shapes, I would like to make mine looks more like the Fedora ones (http://www.howtoforge.com/images/the_perfect_desktop_fc6/38.jpg)
[11:44] <ahave> linxeh, with that link you sent me... is that the full doom3? why are the operating specs so much lower than on a windows?
[11:44] <zcat[1] > anyone done this? know of any tools for it? (the xbox's these drives came from were dead, so no way to get the p/w from them)
[11:44] <Flannel> Vilhelms: google seems to say it's not an actual command: http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44&sid=7cfee39c5671f26bdc90b13a00510fa8  but, I can't say for sure
[11:44] <Vilhelms> Flannel, Oh :(
[11:45] <toulouse> hey guys, i have a problem, i made a disk image with the command:     :~$ dd if=/dev/zero of=myharddisk.img bs=516096 count=10402   and it said it made it just fine. problem is- i dont know where this disk image is on my computer
[11:45] <linxeh> ahave: you need a windows version of doom3
[11:45] <reportingsjr> where should I download ubuntu 6.06 from?
[11:45] <zcat[1] > toulouse, the directory you did the command in.
[11:45] <Xzenome> toulouse, have you looked in your home folder?
[11:45] <Soccer5555> how do i install the drivers in the setup process for an hp printer
[11:45] <linxeh> reportingsjr: www.ubuntu.com
[11:45] <Flannel> toulouse: that'd make the img file in your current directory
[11:45] <toulouse> ok, i gotta go check that
[11:45] <itguru> toulouse, it should be in the same folder, as the one in which you ran the command
[11:46] <dsquare> how do i make games not go in the middle of my two screens please? it splits the screen...
[11:46] <Lightenix> anyone can tell me, why my monitor is showing screen like this: http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1990cx5.jpg  while if i do printscreen this is the picture i get http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshottl2.jpg ?
[11:46] <dsquare> i have two monitors when i launch a game it launches in the "center" putting half of the screen on each monitor..
[11:46] <pontus99> I mounted my fat32 slave drive but now it says I don't have permission to do anything
[11:46] <pontus99> what do I do?
[11:46] <slipstream3d> Ligthenix: it looks like you might need to increase your colour depth setting in Xorg
[11:47] <linxeh> Lightenix: something is wrong in the config - maybe your card isn't properly supported yet, or cant support that bit depth and resolution, or some option is wrong
[11:47] <toulouse> thanks guys, i found my missing disk image
[11:47] <toulouse> :)
[11:47] <IMMA-CHARGIN-MAH> Cursed: Does metacity do transparency?
[11:47] <dimeotane> howdy all
[11:47] <Lightenix> the thing is, it works fine with older drivers, while with newer i get that :7
[11:48] <socialdisorder> how do you use the file you download for the nvidia site?
[11:48] <linxeh> Lightenix: maybe your newer driver doesnt like your card - what card is it ?
[11:48] <Lightenix> GF3 ti200
[11:48] <royel> socialdisorder: there should be instructions on the same page you downloaded the driver from
[11:48] <linxeh> Lightenix: hmm, I thought that cards older than GF4 werent supported in the newest drivers
[11:48] <Lightenix> currently i have installed 9631 packet, which still support gf3
[11:48] <slipstream3d> Ligthenix: I think nvidia is finally phasing out support for old cards in the newest nvidia drivers
[11:49] <IMMA-CHARGIN-MAH> Does metacity support transparency?
[11:49] <Lightenix> yea, but 9631 isnt newest on the net
[11:49] <ntoll> firefox isn't starting for me. I get the error message: "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system". I've restarted the system. Firefox is NOT running as a process (I've just checked), and I don't have a lock in /home/myusername/.mozilla/firefox/blahblahblah/. Any idea what is causing this?
[11:49] <socialdisorder> ok i download *.run file, what do i do with it?
[11:49] <dimeotane> I've got myself stuck without graphical login... and root login only... anyone able to help me set my permissions correctly?
[11:49] <dsquare> when i launch a game it launches in the "center" and puts half the display on each monitor. each monitor..
[11:49] <slipstream3d> they stopped testing some of the older cards extensively like 20 driver versions ago - on windows they no longer show up as certified, even if they're certified for the new cards
[11:49] <ntoll> I'm using edgy
[11:49] <dsquare> please help
[11:49] <linxeh> Lightenix: I dont think the newest ones support your card, so you'll have to use older ones
[11:49] <zcat[1] > damn you nvidia, my card is _not_ 'legacy' .. I have to use a driver one version back from latest now..
[11:50] <linxeh> zcat[1] : what card ?
[11:50] <msc_lvr> im coming from mirc on windows to xchat on ubuntu (which i absolutely love btw) and was wondering if there was a way to specify these options to load at xchat startup :/dcc packetsize 4096, /fsend on, and /pdcc on
[11:50] <socialdisorder> i've got a 7900gt and all i want is to run 3d desktop and at the correct res!!
[11:50] <dimeotane> when i try to login under my user it says "unable to cd to /home/dimeotane
[11:50] <zcat[1] > can't remember.. but the most recent driver says it's no longer supported. MX440 or something?
[11:50] <zcat[1] > GeForce FX 5200
[11:50] <dimeotane> what should my permissions be set to for /home and /home/dimeotane
[11:50] <linxeh> zcat[1] : yes, legacy. old. finito. consumer hardware is designed with a 2 year life time, and the mx440 came out what, 4 years ago ?
[11:50] <mindstate> anyone know of a 3g2 player for ubuntu?
[11:51] <zcat[1] > fx5200 sorry..
[11:51] <zcat[1] > It's running beryl sweet as.
[11:51] <royel> dimeotane: have you used this user before?
[11:51] <linxeh> 440mx came out 5 years ago! :)
[11:51] <reportingsjr> how do I view how much cpu every running process is taking up?
[11:51] <linxeh> zcat[1] : not bad, my 6600gt doesnt run beryl that well at all
[11:52] <linxeh> but then beryl is buggy as hell
[11:52] <zcat[1] > nono.. that's my other computer
[11:52] <dimeotane> royel: yea.. it was just fine then I tried to fix another error by doing a $sudo chmod 644 /home/dimeotane.... then I couldnt' even login again
[11:52] <giangy> reportingsjr: using 'top'?
[11:52] <reportingsjr> top?
[11:52] <reportingsjr> Please explain in detail, I've never used ubuntu before...
[11:53] <zcat[1] > I had to change the config.. it was locking up all the time before. using copy instead of textures was the problem iirc.
[11:53] <royel> dimeotane: you have another user with sudo priviledges, or root?
[11:53] <giangy> reportingsjr: open the terminal and type top
[11:53] <reportingsjr> k
[11:53] <reportingsjr> ok* thank you
[11:53] <dimeotane> royel: yea I'm logged in under root in the terminal right now
[11:53] <NixNewb> okay, what should i do if my toolbar and stuff freezes up?
[11:53] <llol> anyone have any experience on setting RAID driver up with ubuntu?
[11:53] <llol> i mean drive's
[11:53] <atlantia> marrrhragg
[11:53] <atlantia> :D
[11:54] <Soccer5555> i need help on determining the location of my printer
[11:54] <royel> dimeotane: try: chown dimeotane:dimeotane /home/dimeotane
[11:54] <dimeotane> royel: so if I messed it up by a chmod 644 /home/dimeotane  what should I chmod it back to ?
[11:54] <lightcap> is there an RSS feed for USNs? I don't like the wiki format for keeping up to date...
[11:54] <dimeotane> k will do
[11:54] <zcat[1] > I've seen aero on the same spec hardware (might have been slightly better) and this desktop is definately smoother..
[11:54] <dsquare> Soccer5555, try printing something and listen for where the sound comes from! ;)
[11:54] <Soccer5555> not that
[11:54] <NixNewb> okay my gnome froze on me
[11:54] <Soccer5555> i mean for setup
[11:54] <NixNewb> how can i restart it?
[11:54] <NixNewb> or the tooblars and stuff
[11:54] <Soccer5555> it asks for the location
[11:54] <dsquare> how do i make full screen apps go in the middle of my two screens please? it splits the screen on my dual head config..
[11:54] <atlantia> so... nvidia-settings used to allow me to configure the twinview stuff... i just bought a 20.1 monitor for my Laptop, and want an easy way to switch back and forth between twin view etc.
[11:55] <Soccer5555> and its not working the configuring im doing
[11:55] <dsquare> how do i make full screen apps go on one screen instead of  the middle of my two screens please? it splits the screen on my dual head config..
[11:55] <IPODS_OWN_ZUNES> Hi
[11:55] <royel> dimeotane: 644 should be ok
[11:55] <zcat[1] > dsquare, probably use xinerama instead of the build-in dual-head stuff. nvidia card?
[11:56] <est_> hi
[11:56] <dsquare> zcat[1] , ATI, im used mergedFB
[11:56] <MybEvil_> How do I know what to select for the "swap" thing when i'm partition-ing?
[11:56] <dimeotane> royel: says there's no user with that name... oh now the problem I was trying to fix was the /home/.dmrc file.. I did a chmod 644 on that
[11:56] <reportingsjr> How do I install LAMP?
[11:56] <Lightenix> regarding to this page: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9631/README/README.txt GF3 Ti200 is still supported in driver 9631(which i have currently installed)
[11:56] <NixNewb> my toolbars on gnome crasehd, how can i fix it?
[11:57] <atlantia> in nvidia-settings... it says "this space reserved for twin-view support"... it used to allow me to change the settings for dual monitors.. any advice?
[11:57] <royel> dimeotane: was this user you've broke a sudo user?
[11:57] <slipstream3d> what is the gnome/x-windows equivalent of 'sudo'?
[11:57] <zcat[1] > dsquare, I don't really know.. I just clone mine to the Tv output so I can watch movies. Never really got proper dual-head working.
[11:57] <reportingsjr> slipstream3d: administrator for windows
[11:57] <slipstream3d> ...huh?
[11:58] <reportingsjr> If you mean on the command line then you dont need to use a sudo command
[11:58] <atlantia> slipstream3d, gksudo i believe is what you are looking for
[11:58] <dsquare> zcat[1] , ok cool. i recomment the mergedfb technique it is very easy.. i tried two other methods which didn't work.. except for now i can't get my apps on one screen, they are split in the middle of two screens like i said.. frustrating
[11:58] <slipstream3d> reportingsjr: x-windows not windows ;)
[11:58] <reportingsjr> Oh, I thought it was like windows xp or something =
[11:58] <royel> dimeotane: to put the original settings back on .dmrc .. do chmod 600
[11:58] <reportingsjr> =\*
[11:58] <zcat[1] > dsquare, yeah, I think that's like twinview, X sees it as one big screen though.
[11:59] <reportingsjr> Maybe I shouldn't be answering questions :p
[11:59] <dimeotane> k
[11:59] <slipstream3d> atlantia: thanks, i was typing 'gtksudo' lol
[11:59] <reportingsjr> what is "xorg"?
[11:59] <mernil> This was funny :-) https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-February/msg01021.html
[11:59] <zcat[1] > slipstream3d, xwindow not xwindows :-)
[11:59] <atlantia> slipstream3d, heh
[11:59] <Flannel> !xorg | reportingsjr
[11:59] <ubotu> reportingsjr: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:59] <msc_lvr> can anyone help with xchat?
[11:59] <reportingsjr> ohhh, thanky you
[12:00] <mernil> with Eric on your side.. you'll rule the world!
[12:00] <slipstream3d> Xorg is an implementation of the X Window System, it's basically the layer between the command prompt and the GUI programs you run. It lets programs create windows and whatnot.
[12:00] <nfspeed99> how do i get into the /usr directory?
[12:00] <tafadzwa> can anyone help me im trying to setup a home webserver
[12:00] <nfspeed99> in terminal
[12:00] <reportingsjr> !lamp | reportingsjr
[12:00] <royel> nfspeed99: cd /usr
[12:00] <mernil> But i like esr! i'm a gun nut as well
[12:00] <zcat[1] > nfspeed99, cd /usr
[12:00] <nfspeed99> i dont see it there
[12:00] <tafadzwa> well i need the physical layout right now
[12:00] <tafadzwa> if some has a mine