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| lns | LaserJock, is there anythign special i need to do when using pessulus to apply settings? I tried disabling commandline, but it isn't working at all | 12:55 |
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| LaserJock | lns: hmm, I'm not really sure | 12:55 |
| LaserJock | I haven't used pessulus, just sabayon | 12:55 |
| lns | oh ok | 12:56 |
| lns | unless i'm missing something, it doesn't look like pessulus works at all | 01:00 |
| lns | i set something, exit (even set as mandatory value) something like disable commandline or disable print setup, but it has no effect | 01:00 |
| lns | weird | 01:00 |
| lns | weirder - even changing in gconf-editor doesn't do anything..i must be missing something | 01:05 |
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| petre | I installed edubuntu from the live cd | 02:44 |
| petre | I'm working on remastering the CD also | 02:44 |
| a5benwillis | hello | 02:44 |
| petre | I've got all the files copied over from the cd | 02:44 |
| petre | but i'm having some trouble with apt-get | 02:44 |
| petre | specifically, when I'm in the chroot environment, aptitude search * lists 2595 packages | 02:45 |
| a5benwillis | apt-get -s install 'package' | 02:46 |
| a5benwillis | ops | 02:46 |
| petre | but if I run the same command in my regular environment, it lists only 127 | 02:46 |
| petre | 127 makes no sense | 02:46 |
| a5benwillis | wrong window | 02:46 |
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| petre | oddly, in the normal environment, I can install kgeography, but in the chroot environment, apt says it can't find any such package | 02:49 |
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| a5benwillis | anybody here? | 03:16 |
| Burgwork | a5benwillis: yep | 03:18 |
| a5benwillis | do you know what copile time options are required of SSH for edubuntu? | 03:20 |
| a5benwillis | Im reinstalling from source | 03:20 |
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| LaserJock | a5benwillis: what do you mean? | 04:13 |
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| petre | is /etc/apt/sources.list the only file that tells aptitude where to look for packages? | 04:40 |
| LaserJock | basically yeah | 04:41 |
| petre | that's what I figured, but I can't figure out why my chroot-into-copy-of-livecd sees less than the installed system, wrt apt | 04:43 |
| petre | when is feisty due out? | 04:44 |
| petre | both chroot and regular system has the same sources.list file | 04:44 |
| petre | s/s/ve/ | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | feisty is do in April | 04:47 |
| LaserJock | *due | 04:47 |
| LaserJock | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule | 04:47 |
| petre | do you know where I can find the list of packages/versions scheduled to be in feisty? | 04:48 |
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| cbx33 | hmm | 07:02 |
| cbx33 | ping burgwork | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | hi cbx33 | 07:11 |
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| TeePOG | good afternoon | 12:35 |
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| rockprincess | hello all! | 02:53 |
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| Petaris | What is the desktop install iso called? | 02:57 |
| ogra | up to edgy its called live ... since feisty its called desktop | 02:58 |
| Petaris | ahh | 02:58 |
| Petaris | ok | 02:58 |
| Petaris | so you boot the live cd and install from there like with xubuntu? | 02:58 |
| ogra | for a workstation install, yes | 03:01 |
| Petaris | right, workstation is close enough functionally to ltsp to test the OpenLDAP stuff right? | 03:03 |
| ogra | well ... workstation is a workstation, no ltsp involved ... to get ltsp going with ldap you need to tweak the ssh pam settings ... for a workstation you use the gdm pam settings | 03:07 |
| Petaris | ahh, so I really do need the LTSP version installed to test | 03:09 |
| Petaris | bugger | 03:09 |
| Petaris | ok | 03:09 |
| Petaris | I need to find a machine | 03:09 |
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| ogra | Petaris, just install openssh-server and ssh to localhost ;) | 03:14 |
| ogra | keep the setting for your ltsp then ;) | 03:14 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 04:01 |
| a5benwillis | hi | 04:04 |
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| admin1 | On edgy, I accidently deleted a user account, afterward, I recreated the account, but I am unable to change the password using the users and groups applet.. | 05:17 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: around? | 06:06 |
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| pscheie | can I remove the french language packs without breaking anything? | 06:15 |
| pscheie | I don't speak french so they're of no use to me | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | pscheie: as long as you don't need them ;-) | 06:15 |
| pscheie | I mean language-pack-fr language-pack-gnome-fg and language-pack-kde-fr | 06:15 |
| LaserJock | I don't think it should be a problem | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | it might take out some other packages that depend on those | 06:16 |
| pscheie | I just want to avoid having any errors pop up when starting up an app | 06:16 |
| pscheie | errors like 'can't find french support' which I don't care about any way | 06:16 |
| pscheie | guess I'll try it and see what happens | 06:17 |
| nixternal | !seen RichEd | 06:36 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about seen riched - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 06:36 |
| nixternal | @seen RichEd | 06:36 |
| nixternal | damn you bots | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | nixternal: he's just not here | 06:40 |
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| Dante123 | hi...i'm a teacher and I am looking for software that reads text.....I have the screen reader stuff but that reads the windows and dialogues etc.....I need something to read highlighted text...any suggestions? | 06:45 |
| Dante123 | I have festival on here.....I am running ubuntu 6.10 too | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 06:46 |
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| Dante123 | I have LSR for gnome on this machine too | 06:48 |
| LaserJock | I don't know of one right off | 06:50 |
| nixternal | LaserJock: no really? :p | 06:51 |
| LaserJock | Dante123: I would imagine the Ubuntu accesibility guys would know | 06:52 |
| Dante123 | thanks laser....I can try there... | 06:59 |
| Dante123 | I figured that i had everything installed that I needed....and I do get the voice thing working......I just thought there was a way of highlighting text and having it read....but that doesn't seem to be what LSR does.....just the window/os stuff | 07:00 |
| LaserJock | Dante123: there should be an app for that, I just don't know what | 07:01 |
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| highvoltage | LaserJock: I read about a new laser today and wanted to post the link to you, but now I just can't find it | 07:44 |
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| cliebow_ | any good way to unpack an rpm? | 07:55 |
| a5benwillis | right click andclick extract here? | 07:56 |
| highvoltage | cliebow_: you can use mc | 07:57 |
| cliebow_ | ah | 07:57 |
| highvoltage | or even cpio | 07:57 |
| cliebow_ | yeah was just looking at cpio and rpm2cpio | 07:57 |
| highvoltage | but if the right-click-extract works, that's probably the easiest :) | 07:58 |
| highvoltage | but I usually use mc (old habits die hard) | 07:58 |
| cliebow_ | no..wont unpack it in edgy anyway.. | 07:59 |
| cbx33 | ping Burgwork | 08:01 |
| Burgwork | cbx33: pong | 08:01 |
| cbx33 | i didn't see you this mornin | 08:01 |
| cbx33 | did you speak to deb? | 08:01 |
| Burgwork | I emailed her | 08:02 |
| Burgwork | I fell asleep on the keyboard reviewing last night | 08:02 |
| cbx33 | oh dear | 08:02 |
| cbx33 | was it that bad? | 08:02 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 08:02 |
| highvoltage | won't be the first time that happens :) | 08:02 |
| Burgwork | no, I am just really tired due to this office move | 08:02 |
| cbx33 | so what should I do, I sent her all the images yesterday | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | but I havn't heard back from her or kim | 08:03 |
| Burgwork | I will review it tonight | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | sorry Burgwork | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | will you send it off to her? | 08:03 |
| Burgwork | nothing for you to apologize aobut | 08:03 |
| Burgwork | yep | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | well giving you extra work :p | 08:03 |
| Burgwork | did you cc me on the images? | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | no | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | but I can do | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | 1.3Mb Zip | 08:03 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: now is a real good time to come work in .za, with the entire government switching to open source and all | 08:03 |
| cbx33 | *bah* /me had to fight the temptation to tar them up | 08:03 |
| Burgwork | highvoltage: indeed. I am still planning it | 08:04 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: kewl | 08:04 |
| Burgwork | right now I am just heads down with the office move | 08:04 |
| Burgwork | we are rewiring 1700 sq ft of office space | 08:04 |
| highvoltage | ouch | 08:04 |
| highvoltage | no wonder you're tired | 08:04 |
| Burgwork | there is already conduit on the walls, so it is pretty good | 08:04 |
| Burgwork | then we need to install all the new furniture, etc. | 08:04 |
| Burgwork | highvoltage: have you played with ltsp fat clients? | 08:05 |
| highvoltage | I have indeed | 08:05 |
| highvoltage | we've implemented it in the digital doorways | 08:05 |
| cbx33 | Burgwork, sent to you | 08:05 |
| cbx33 | Burgwork, are you thinking of adding that to the chapter? | 08:06 |
| Burgwork | no, just wondering for my own sake | 08:06 |
| cbx33 | oh hehe | 08:06 |
| cbx33 | phew | 08:06 |
| cbx33 | so how is the chap looking so far? | 08:06 |
| Burgwork | if you are nfs mouting /, how do you deal with things like static IPs? | 08:06 |
| Burgwork | I have no idea. I don't remember anything I did last night :) | 08:06 |
| cbx33 | heh :) - oh man :p | 08:06 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: which static IP's? | 08:07 |
| Burgwork | highvoltage: if you set a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces and you are nfs mounting /, you will get the same IP for each thin client | 08:07 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: you specify the IP range in dhcpd.conf, and you can specify certain ip addresses to certain mac addresses | 08:07 |
| Burgwork | true, I forgot about that | 08:07 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: ah. no, all of them use dhcp | 08:07 |
| Burgwork | no, I was thinking of my own office, wherein I want static IPs on the computers to facilitate ssh | 08:08 |
| Burgwork | currently I run pure fat clients, with desktop multiplier on them | 08:08 |
| Burgwork | thinking of switching to ltsp fat clients with d-m installed int eh chroot | 08:08 |
| highvoltage | yeah, then you could just specify the addresses to the clients in dhcpd.conf | 08:08 |
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| Burgwork | ok | 08:08 |
| Burgwork | I have never installed LTSP or Edubuntu, so these are things I have never encountered | 08:09 |
| highvoltage | ok | 08:09 |
| Burgwork | I am tired of manually configuring machines | 08:10 |
| cbx33 | heh | 08:10 |
| highvoltage | manually configuring and supporting machines-- | 08:11 |
| Burgwork | that isn't bad | 08:11 |
| Burgwork | but I only have 3 machines with 6 users | 08:13 |
| Burgwork | desktop-multiplier + ltsp sounds like a great combo | 08:13 |
| Burgwork | now I only need to convince my boss to open source it... | 08:13 |
| highvoltage | that sounds like a tough job! | 08:13 |
| Burgwork | very much so | 08:14 |
| cbx33 | what is desktop-multplier | 08:14 |
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| Burgwork | multiseat X | 08:15 |
| cbx33 | ooooooooh | 08:15 |
| cbx33 | i was looking for that the other day i believe | 08:15 |
| Burgwork | http://userful.com/products/multi-station-how-it-works | 08:15 |
| cbx33 | free too | 08:17 |
| Burgwork | looking forward to working with a better product, highvoltage :) | 08:17 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: ubuntu has a less glamerous multi-seat solution too | 08:17 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: I' | 08:17 |
| highvoltage | oops | 08:17 |
| Burgwork | there is also stuff in X, cbx33 | 08:17 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: I have some updates for you, but I'll pm you a bit later! | 08:17 |
| cbx33 | nice | 08:17 |
| cbx33 | Burgwork, so how fast a machine do you need realistically? | 08:18 |
| Burgwork | http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html | 08:18 |
| highvoltage | cbx33: apt-cache show multiseat | 08:18 |
| Burgwork | be nice to kick that work up again | 08:18 |
| Burgwork | cbx33: depends on what you want to do | 08:18 |
| cbx33 | ok | 08:18 |
| Burgwork | 256mb per user, usually | 08:18 |
| cbx33 | i gotta go do some paid work now | 08:18 |
| cbx33 | I'll bbl | 08:18 |
| Burgwork | however, we don't ship computers with less than 1gig | 08:18 |
| Burgwork | highvoltage: have you played with the multiseat package? | 08:18 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: only once | 08:19 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: when it was released | 08:19 |
| Burgwork | and? | 08:19 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: and it didn't work :) | 08:19 |
| Burgwork | oh | 08:19 |
| Burgwork | multiseat frequently does | 08:19 |
| Burgwork | not work, that is | 08:19 |
| highvoltage | Burgwork: but I believe it has been fixed in the meantime, I haven't tried it since, though | 08:19 |
| cliebow_ | Burgwork: that is in feisty? mu;ltiseat? | 08:33 |
| Burgwork | cliebow_: multiseat and desktop-multiplier are both in feisty | 08:33 |
| Burgwork | ms has been around since warty, dm since dapper | 08:33 |
| Burgwork | ms is Free, dm is merely free | 08:33 |
| LaserJock | highvoltage: nifty laser? sounds fun | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | where is OGRA?!? :-) | 08:45 |
| cliebow_ | Italy | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | well, I just want him in here now, I don't care where he is physically ;-) | 08:46 |
| cliebow_ | 8~) | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | I think I'm going to have to move to Europe just so I can be at a better Ubuntu time zone | 08:47 |
| cliebow_ | never can get an ogre when you need one..... | 08:47 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: it's the weekend! ogra needs some rest | 08:47 |
| LaserJock | either that or I'm going to have to convince Mark to move Canonical to Vegas ;-) | 08:47 |
| LaserJock | highvoltage: it is? oh that's right :/ | 08:47 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: I'm sure there's many canonical staffers that won't object :) | 08:47 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: I normally notice it's weekend when people quiet down and I can get back to work | 08:48 |
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| cbx33 | is ogra back from italy now? | 09:09 |
| cbx33 | Burgwork, one more question | 09:11 |
| cbx33 | basically there isn't anything for me to do today on book is there? | 09:11 |
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| pscheie | on the edubuntu live cd, what creates the 'installer' icon on the desktop? | 10:51 |
| pscheie | put another way, how do I get rid of it? | 10:51 |
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| SnrWhippy | anyone installed vmware workstation 6 on edgy? | 11:52 |
| SnrWhippy | heloooo!! | 11:58 |
| LaserJock | I haven't, sorry | 11:59 |
| SnrWhippy | no worries its quiet in here today | 12:01 |
| SnrWhippy | theres an rpm and a tar.gz what should i use | 12:03 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 12:03 |
| LaserJock | I'd go with tar.gz personally | 12:04 |
| LaserJock | but if that didn't work so swell I might use alien on the rpm | 12:04 |
| SnrWhippy | yeah ok i started alien but i chickened | 12:04 |
| SnrWhippy | is it easy to clean up if it all goes bad | 12:04 |
| cbx33 | do it from tar | 12:05 |
| SnrWhippy | yeah ok will try that | 12:05 |
| SnrWhippy | i'll let you know how badly it fails | 12:06 |
| SnrWhippy | anyone use checkinstall instead of make | 12:08 |
| LaserJock | SnrWhippy: I have | 12:09 |
| LaserJock | SnrWhippy: it works ok for simple packages for personal use | 12:10 |
| SnrWhippy | oh ok | 12:10 |
| SnrWhippy | vmware maybe not then | 12:10 |
| cbx33 | SnrWhippy, vmware is pee easy to install via the tar | 12:15 |
| SnrWhippy | really? | 12:16 |
| cbx33 | yes | 12:16 |
| cbx33 | its' a wizard | 12:16 |
| SnrWhippy | eh? workstation 6? | 12:17 |
| cbx33 | untar and run | 12:17 |
| cbx33 | vmware-install.pl | 12:17 |
| cbx33 | as root | 12:17 |
| cbx33 | easy peasy :p | 12:17 |
| cbx33 | much nicer than any other source install | 12:17 |
| SnrWhippy | :) | 12:18 |
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