=== skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu [12:55] LaserJock, is there anythign special i need to do when using pessulus to apply settings? I tried disabling commandline, but it isn't working at all [12:55] lns: hmm, I'm not really sure [12:55] I haven't used pessulus, just sabayon [12:56] oh ok [01:00] unless i'm missing something, it doesn't look like pessulus works at all [01:00] i set something, exit (even set as mandatory value) something like disable commandline or disable print setup, but it has no effect [01:00] weird [01:05] weirder - even changing in gconf-editor doesn't do anything..i must be missing something === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === skirk [n=skirk@ip-103-163.sn2.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu === petre [n=petre@scheie.homedns.org] has joined #edubuntu [02:44] I installed edubuntu from the live cd [02:44] I'm working on remastering the CD also [02:44] hello [02:44] I've got all the files copied over from the cd [02:44] but i'm having some trouble with apt-get [02:45] specifically, when I'm in the chroot environment, aptitude search * lists 2595 packages [02:46] apt-get -s install 'package' [02:46] ops [02:46] but if I run the same command in my regular environment, it lists only 127 [02:46] 127 makes no sense [02:46] wrong window === kjcole [n=kjcole@72-254-141-36.client.stsn.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:49] oddly, in the normal environment, I can install kgeography, but in the chroot environment, apt says it can't find any such package === kjcole [n=kjcole@72-254-141-36.client.stsn.net] has joined #edubuntu === kjcole [n=kjcole@ubuntu/member/kjcole] has joined #edubuntu === kjcole [n=kjcole@ubuntu/member/kjcole] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@39-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [03:16] anybody here? [03:18] a5benwillis: yep [03:20] do you know what copile time options are required of SSH for edubuntu? [03:20] Im reinstalling from source === jred184_ [n=jred184@host-209-215-59-242.jan.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === jred184_ [n=jred184@host-209-215-59-242.jan.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [04:13] a5benwillis: what do you mean? === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [04:40] is /etc/apt/sources.list the only file that tells aptitude where to look for packages? [04:41] basically yeah [04:43] that's what I figured, but I can't figure out why my chroot-into-copy-of-livecd sees less than the installed system, wrt apt [04:44] when is feisty due out? [04:44] both chroot and regular system has the same sources.list file [04:44] s/s/ve/ [04:47] feisty is do in April [04:47] *due [04:47] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule [04:48] do you know where I can find the list of packages/versions scheduled to be in feisty? === jred184__ [n=jred184@host-216-78-67-203.jan.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d4282e.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=prochat1@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:02] hmm [07:03] ping burgwork [07:11] hi cbx33 === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === cbx33 [n=prochat1@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === Nik0_ [n=lewmnik@AAmiens-156-1-94-112.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #edubuntu === Nik0_ [n=lewmnik@AAmiens-156-1-94-112.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === mpytasz [n=dduck@zipa2.fastnet.it] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-5880e0231c4c5301] has joined #edubuntu === mpytasz [n=dduck@zipa2.fastnet.it] has joined #edubuntu === Feral_Kid [n=FeralKid@red-corp-201.170.31.219.telnor.net] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === SnrWhippy [n=tom@88-111-52-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-1b3b6381ba724961] has joined #edubuntu === TeePOG [i=Morat@wi14.cs.uct.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu [12:35] good afternoon === TeePOG [n=Morat@wi14.cs.uct.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === caravena [n=caravena@39-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@66.208.16.135] has joined #edubuntu === Nik0 [n=lewmnik@AAmiens-156-1-94-112.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === rockprincess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu [02:53] hello all! === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu [02:57] What is the desktop install iso called? [02:58] up to edgy its called live ... since feisty its called desktop [02:58] ahh [02:58] ok [02:58] so you boot the live cd and install from there like with xubuntu? [03:01] for a workstation install, yes [03:03] right, workstation is close enough functionally to ltsp to test the OpenLDAP stuff right? [03:07] well ... workstation is a workstation, no ltsp involved ... to get ltsp going with ldap you need to tweak the ssh pam settings ... for a workstation you use the gdm pam settings [03:09] ahh, so I really do need the LTSP version installed to test [03:09] bugger [03:09] ok [03:09] I need to find a machine === pscheie [n=pscheie@63.225.142.21] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:14] Petaris, just install openssh-server and ssh to localhost ;) [03:14] keep the setting for your ltsp then ;) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [04:01] Heya [04:04] hi === rockprincess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@66.208.16.135] has joined #edubuntu === caravena is now known as caravena|AFK === admin1 [n=admin1@64-193-211-199.wco.clearwire-dns.net] has joined #edubuntu === johansalim [i=G3b0ys@ip84-222.cbn.net.id] has joined #edubuntu [05:17] On edgy, I accidently deleted a user account, afterward, I recreated the account, but I am unable to change the password using the users and groups applet.. === caravena_ [n=caravena@218-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === theresa [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu === skirk A F K === caravena_ is now known as caravena === caravena_ [n=caravena@43-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === caravena__ [n=caravena@60-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [06:06] ogra: around? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [06:15] can I remove the french language packs without breaking anything? [06:15] I don't speak french so they're of no use to me [06:15] pscheie: as long as you don't need them ;-) [06:15] I mean language-pack-fr language-pack-gnome-fg and language-pack-kde-fr [06:16] I don't think it should be a problem [06:16] it might take out some other packages that depend on those [06:16] I just want to avoid having any errors pop up when starting up an app [06:16] errors like 'can't find french support' which I don't care about any way [06:17] guess I'll try it and see what happens [06:36] !seen RichEd [06:36] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen riched - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:36] @seen RichEd [06:36] damn you bots [06:40] nixternal: he's just not here === Dante123 [n=opera@bas4-kitchener06-1167936033.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #edubuntu [06:45] hi...i'm a teacher and I am looking for software that reads text.....I have the screen reader stuff but that reads the windows and dialogues etc.....I need something to read highlighted text...any suggestions? [06:46] I have festival on here.....I am running ubuntu 6.10 too [06:46] hmm === caravena_ [n=caravena@174-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [06:48] I have LSR for gnome on this machine too [06:50] I don't know of one right off [06:51] LaserJock: no really? :p [06:52] Dante123: I would imagine the Ubuntu accesibility guys would know [06:59] thanks laser....I can try there... [07:00] I figured that i had everything installed that I needed....and I do get the voice thing working......I just thought there was a way of highlighting text and having it read....but that doesn't seem to be what LSR does.....just the window/os stuff [07:01] Dante123: there should be an app for that, I just don't know what === Dante123 [n=opera@bas4-kitchener06-1167936033.dsl.bell.ca] has left #edubuntu [] === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [07:44] LaserJock: I read about a new laser today and wanted to post the link to you, but now I just can't find it === caravena_ is now known as caravena === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu [07:55] any good way to unpack an rpm? [07:56] right click andclick extract here? [07:57] cliebow_: you can use mc [07:57] ah [07:57] or even cpio [07:57] yeah was just looking at cpio and rpm2cpio [07:58] but if the right-click-extract works, that's probably the easiest :) [07:58] but I usually use mc (old habits die hard) [07:59] no..wont unpack it in edgy anyway.. [08:01] ping Burgwork [08:01] cbx33: pong [08:01] i didn't see you this mornin [08:01] did you speak to deb? [08:02] I emailed her [08:02] I fell asleep on the keyboard reviewing last night [08:02] oh dear [08:02] was it that bad? [08:02] ;) [08:02] won't be the first time that happens :) [08:02] no, I am just really tired due to this office move [08:03] so what should I do, I sent her all the images yesterday [08:03] but I havn't heard back from her or kim [08:03] I will review it tonight [08:03] sorry Burgwork [08:03] will you send it off to her? [08:03] nothing for you to apologize aobut [08:03] yep [08:03] well giving you extra work :p [08:03] did you cc me on the images? [08:03] no [08:03] but I can do [08:03] 1.3Mb Zip [08:03] Burgwork: now is a real good time to come work in .za, with the entire government switching to open source and all [08:03] *bah* /me had to fight the temptation to tar them up [08:04] highvoltage: indeed. I am still planning it [08:04] Burgwork: kewl [08:04] right now I am just heads down with the office move [08:04] we are rewiring 1700 sq ft of office space [08:04] ouch [08:04] no wonder you're tired [08:04] there is already conduit on the walls, so it is pretty good [08:04] then we need to install all the new furniture, etc. [08:05] highvoltage: have you played with ltsp fat clients? [08:05] I have indeed [08:05] we've implemented it in the digital doorways [08:05] Burgwork, sent to you [08:06] Burgwork, are you thinking of adding that to the chapter? [08:06] no, just wondering for my own sake [08:06] oh hehe [08:06] phew [08:06] so how is the chap looking so far? [08:06] if you are nfs mouting /, how do you deal with things like static IPs? [08:06] I have no idea. I don't remember anything I did last night :) [08:06] heh :) - oh man :p [08:07] Burgwork: which static IP's? [08:07] highvoltage: if you set a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces and you are nfs mounting /, you will get the same IP for each thin client [08:07] Burgwork: you specify the IP range in dhcpd.conf, and you can specify certain ip addresses to certain mac addresses [08:07] true, I forgot about that [08:07] Burgwork: ah. no, all of them use dhcp [08:08] no, I was thinking of my own office, wherein I want static IPs on the computers to facilitate ssh [08:08] currently I run pure fat clients, with desktop multiplier on them [08:08] thinking of switching to ltsp fat clients with d-m installed int eh chroot [08:08] yeah, then you could just specify the addresses to the clients in dhcpd.conf === meduxa [n=agustin@84.Red-217-127-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:08] ok [08:09] I have never installed LTSP or Edubuntu, so these are things I have never encountered [08:09] ok [08:10] I am tired of manually configuring machines [08:10] heh [08:11] manually configuring and supporting machines-- [08:11] that isn't bad [08:13] but I only have 3 machines with 6 users [08:13] desktop-multiplier + ltsp sounds like a great combo [08:13] now I only need to convince my boss to open source it... [08:13] that sounds like a tough job! [08:14] very much so [08:14] what is desktop-multplier === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt [08:15] multiseat X [08:15] ooooooooh [08:15] i was looking for that the other day i believe [08:15] http://userful.com/products/multi-station-how-it-works [08:17] free too [08:17] looking forward to working with a better product, highvoltage :) [08:17] cbx33: ubuntu has a less glamerous multi-seat solution too [08:17] Burgwork: I' [08:17] oops [08:17] there is also stuff in X, cbx33 [08:17] Burgwork: I have some updates for you, but I'll pm you a bit later! [08:17] nice [08:18] Burgwork, so how fast a machine do you need realistically? [08:18] http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html [08:18] cbx33: apt-cache show multiseat [08:18] be nice to kick that work up again [08:18] cbx33: depends on what you want to do [08:18] ok [08:18] 256mb per user, usually [08:18] i gotta go do some paid work now [08:18] I'll bbl [08:18] however, we don't ship computers with less than 1gig [08:18] highvoltage: have you played with the multiseat package? [08:19] Burgwork: only once [08:19] Burgwork: when it was released [08:19] and? [08:19] Burgwork: and it didn't work :) [08:19] oh [08:19] multiseat frequently does [08:19] not work, that is [08:19] Burgwork: but I believe it has been fixed in the meantime, I haven't tried it since, though [08:33] Burgwork: that is in feisty? mu;ltiseat? [08:33] cliebow_: multiseat and desktop-multiplier are both in feisty [08:33] ms has been around since warty, dm since dapper [08:33] ms is Free, dm is merely free [08:45] highvoltage: nifty laser? sounds fun [08:45] where is OGRA?!? :-) [08:45] Italy [08:46] well, I just want him in here now, I don't care where he is physically ;-) [08:46] 8~) [08:47] I think I'm going to have to move to Europe just so I can be at a better Ubuntu time zone [08:47] never can get an ogre when you need one..... [08:47] LaserJock: it's the weekend! ogra needs some rest [08:47] either that or I'm going to have to convince Mark to move Canonical to Vegas ;-) [08:47] highvoltage: it is? oh that's right :/ [08:47] LaserJock: I'm sure there's many canonical staffers that won't object :) [08:48] LaserJock: I normally notice it's weekend when people quiet down and I can get back to work === caravena_ [n=caravena@6-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === bronze [n=Lester@c-24-218-46-93.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === Dante123 [n=opera@bas4-kitchener06-1167936033.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #edubuntu === Dante123 [n=opera@bas4-kitchener06-1167936033.dsl.bell.ca] has left #edubuntu [] [09:09] is ogra back from italy now? [09:11] Burgwork, one more question [09:11] basically there isn't anything for me to do today on book is there? === AndrewB [n=andy@tuxhacker/pdpc.supporter.student.AndrewB] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d4291c.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === ViTality [n=vit0@ip-83-149-3-185.nwgsm.ru] has joined #edubuntu === ViTality [n=vit0@ip-83-149-3-185.nwgsm.ru] has left #edubuntu [] === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === caravena_ is now known as caravena|AFK === cafuego_ [n=cafuego@caffeine.mel.cc.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-32-82-254-7-163.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === caravena|AFK is now known as caravena [10:51] on the edubuntu live cd, what creates the 'installer' icon on the desktop? [10:51] put another way, how do I get rid of it? === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === caravena_ [n=caravena@78-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === SnrWhippy [n=SnrWhipp@88-111-58-185.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu === SnrWhippy [n=SnrWhipp@88-111-58-185.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #edubuntu [] === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === caravena__ [n=caravena@131-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === SnrWhippy [n=SnrWhipp@88-111-58-185.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu [11:52] anyone installed vmware workstation 6 on edgy? [11:58] heloooo!! [11:59] I haven't, sorry [12:01] no worries its quiet in here today [12:03] theres an rpm and a tar.gz what should i use [12:03] hmm [12:04] I'd go with tar.gz personally [12:04] but if that didn't work so swell I might use alien on the rpm [12:04] yeah ok i started alien but i chickened [12:04] is it easy to clean up if it all goes bad [12:05] do it from tar [12:05] yeah ok will try that [12:06] i'll let you know how badly it fails [12:08] anyone use checkinstall instead of make [12:09] SnrWhippy: I have [12:10] SnrWhippy: it works ok for simple packages for personal use [12:10] oh ok [12:10] vmware maybe not then [12:15] SnrWhippy, vmware is pee easy to install via the tar [12:16] really? [12:16] yes [12:16] its' a wizard [12:17] eh? workstation 6? [12:17] untar and run [12:17] vmware-install.pl [12:17] as root [12:17] easy peasy :p [12:17] much nicer than any other source install [12:18] :)