=== jpetso_away [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db44286.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A48223.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.72.82] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:00] lol two kde bugs: "kate needs smarter indentation..." and "kate indentation is too smart" === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:03] DaSkreech: you got mail! [01:03] yuriy: is that real? === n8k99_ [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:08] nixternal: yep. well, the first one continues to something specific after the ... [01:09] nixternal: hi [01:09] d'oh dinner [01:09] hola === jjesse is afk eating [01:09] haha, that was kwik [01:09] that is way to funny yuriy [01:10] although, there are times when I forget to turn off indentation for XML/DocBook for KDE docs and I start typing and it indents [01:10] other than that, don't tell manchicken, but Kate > Emacs [01:11] heh, agreed :D [01:11] also kde bugs amuse me when people start putting k's in things [01:11] like i just saw "inkonsistent" === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manchick@c-76-16-240-139.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99_ [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:25] hmm... anybody feel like helping me get around this qparted partitioning problem? (I'm trying to install today's daily build, but the partitioner is broken on my CD)... Any way I can use fdisk instead? === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-57-2.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lotusblossom [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:51] Okay, so who wants to help me out with this? === lotusblossom is now known as lotusleaf [02:54] anyone ever had the spacebar lock out at all with kubuntu, or linux for that matter? [02:55] Not unless there was something wrong with the keyboard. [02:56] no, he has tried other keyboard [02:56] s [02:57] he said he was looking at system properties (KInfoCenter I am guessing) [02:57] and it stopped working after that [03:04] Iteresting. [03:04] interesting even [03:05] nixternal: hmm... space doesn't work at all? try switching keyboard maps and back? [03:05] So who wants to help me debug this segv? [03:06] I'm too close, and it's not going anywhere. [03:12] ryanacka: what's wrong with the partitioner? === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:17] Anybody want to help me diagnose this segfault in adept_updater? The bzr branch is http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Emanchicken/adept/updater-changelog-viewer/ [03:17] yuriy: bug 48055 [03:17] Malone bug 48055 in qtparted "Problem with QtParted" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48055 [03:19] ryanacka: you could use cfdisk or gparted or some other partitioner.. [03:21] yuriy: or fdisk... but... I can't install... I can't skip the partitioning step in ubiquity... [03:22] it blocks the next button? [03:22] Ubiquity freezes as soon as it gets to that step [03:23] oh [03:23] i guess, that annoyed me too -- there should be a "Leave disk as is" option [03:23] i almost never actually want to partition anything === ryanakca nods === ryanakca pokes ubiquity [03:28] yuriy: where can I upload this screenshot? ubuntu-nl's pastebin used to take them... or shall I email it to you? [03:29] ryanacka: of what? [03:29] ubiquity not displaying parted [03:30] ryanacka: i doubt i can really be helpful [03:30] kk [03:31] yuriy: So are you going to fix all my problems? :P [03:33] lol [03:33] Well? Get on it ;) [03:33] sure, why not :P [03:37] nixternal: Kool [03:38] kool? [03:38] ryanakca: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [03:38] hehe [03:38] that fixed his issue [03:38] now to get his video working :) [03:39] nixternal: lol, now to get my ubiquity working ;) [03:39] ryanakca: he rebooted after we got the spacebar working, and now the spacebar doesn't work [03:40] nixternal: I got mail [03:40] wth, something is controlling his xorg.conf [03:40] DaSkreech: ahhh, get to hackin' :) [03:40] hmm.. [03:40] liveCD? [03:40] no, this is installed on his machine [03:40] hmm... [03:40] odd [03:40] very [03:41] some wierdo script he installed? [03:42] nope [03:42] I shouldn't say nope [03:42] but he says nope :) [03:42] lol [03:42] nixternal: unfortunately I have some other work to feal with [03:43] write a shell script that'll revert to the good version of xorg.conf every boot... and then every half hour... [03:43] (cron... and /etc/rc.local) [03:43] no problemo [03:43] heh === ryanakca crosses his fingers [03:43] WEEEE! [03:48] i wanted to patch the little gui issues i noticed in ubiquity [03:48] but when i open up the .ui files they're emtpy [03:49] nixternal: Oh I also wanted the changes you had made to the repos section [03:49] odd === ryanakca wants to patch a little gui issue in ubiquity as well [03:50] i think i figured it ou [03:50] *out [03:50] it's qt4, i was opening with qt3 designer [03:50] ok bug: no menu shortcut to qt4 designer [03:51] also what's with qt4 desinger being gimp-style [03:51] this is really confusing [03:51] lol === yuriy sends all the SEVEN windows to a different desktop [03:55] i fail to understand what's easier about this compared to coding the GUI [03:55] DaSkreech: I made those in the system documentation that is going to get installed. Oh wait, I did make other changes [03:55] let me forward those to you as well [03:55] of course, i just don't know how to use the program [03:56] DaSkreech: you got mail! :) === DaSkreech needs a nixternal Pop up blocker [03:59] lol === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.229.229] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:09] were the ubiquity pages recently swapped around? [04:11] ryanacka: looks like qtparted is no longer used. the new partitioner crashes though. [04:14] yuriy: qtparted died? [04:15] DaScreech: there's a new partitioner [04:15] looks rather simplistic though [04:16] yuriy: What is it kalled? [04:16] Kpart? [04:17] hee hee hee === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:21] DaScreech: i don't think it has a name.. some of the source files are called "parted" and "partition_edit_dialog" [04:21] it's built into ubiquity [04:26] !find ultrastar [04:27] Package/file ultrastar does not exist in edgy [04:27] !find ultrastar-ng [04:28] Package/file ultrastar-ng does not exist in edgy [04:28] ok i can't figure out how to fix this [04:28] yuriy: Ok [04:28] heh you don't know what i'm talking about.. [04:31] yuriy: the ubiquity partitioner is !based on qtparted [04:31] yuriy: I thought it was based on Gparted before actually [04:32] i think it's all new [04:32] Right. I just wanted to know if qtparted was being discontinued [04:32] i was just trying to get all the text boxes on the who are you page to line up === jjesse [n=jjesse@ppp-69-221-235-204.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:32] @time denver [05:32] Current time in America/Denver: February 22 2007, 21:32:35 [05:35] !find lincity [05:35] Found: lincity, lincity-ng, lincity-ng-data [05:36] !lincity-ng [05:36] lincity-ng: City simulator game with polished graphics. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1 (edgy), package size 322 kB, installed size 844 kB [05:36] !lincity-ng-data [05:36] lincity-ng-data: Media files for the city simulator game LinCity-NG. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1 (edgy), package size 25701 kB, installed size 33628 kB [05:53] nixternal: ping [05:54] DaSkreech: omg it's simcity! awesome! [05:54] :) [05:54] Yarly! It's like Simcity 0.8 :) [05:54] I almost loved that game [05:54] its way behind, i tried it the other day [05:55] Wish I could figure out what the love is with -ng names and what it means [05:55] umm yeah i actually quit about 10 seconds after starting it... [05:55] pongloersdfj84304848dsjlfja;a;u4u40843084038204832nfdljaf;da [05:55] jjesse: Submit code :) [05:55] looks around the level of the original simcity [05:55] DaSkreech: you don't want me to try :) [05:55] nixternal: what the heck was that? [05:55] nixternal: ipv6 pong? [05:55] hiya jjesse [05:55] hiya [05:55] ng = next generation? [05:55] that's what i always figured [05:55] Ah. Possibly [05:55] jjesse: that was a messed up pong, so I just rode with keymashing [05:56] i would've gone w/ ipv6 pong :) [05:56] I am reading ignorant windows fanboy posts on ZDNet. [05:56] Great [05:56] Stop doing that and tell me what you changed [05:56] I am on a anti-ms rampage tonight, even though I am installing it on an old system here for "documentation" purposes only [05:56] and school stuff [05:57] DaSkreech: what I changed? [05:57] my socks? [05:57] nixternal: to chap7 [05:57] umm [05:57] Katapult [05:57] ok [05:57] umm [05:57] Kicker layout [05:57] is that a different one then what you sent me this morning nixternal? [05:57] ummm [05:57] jjesse: the same [05:57] oh ok [05:57] Hmm [05:57] I did change katapult correct? [05:57] please tell me I saved [05:57] lol [05:58] no clue, i have one from you, one that Deb had reviewed by somoene else and then i'm waiting on the one from DaSkreech [05:58] i need to setup a bazaar branch or some kind of revision control for the next update [05:58] cause this is killing me [05:58] Something about amarok? [05:58] jjesse: that would be the smart thing to do :) [05:59] jjesse: That would be wise [05:59] but you can't revision control .doc and .odt I thought [05:59] i don't think so eitehr [05:59] shrug [05:59] would also stop you from introducing new novel errors in sections you had written already [05:59] agrred [05:59] Plus I could then check out the book :) in the non library fashion :) [05:59] lol [05:59] :) [05:59] nixternal: You should be able to revision .odt. It's just a zip file [06:00] I want my very own JJ signed copy [06:00] nixternal: i already told you i would send you one when i get the next update [06:00] nixternal: something about amarok? [06:00] hehe [06:00] DaSkreech: dunno [06:00] That's what you added? [06:00] wow, I just did this yesterday and i can't remember [06:00] oh ya [06:00] ya [06:00] with the Kicker? === DaSkreech botslaps's nixternal [06:00] lol [06:00] nope katapult. [06:01] oh ya [06:01] OK that was me :) [06:01] I still don't like this line "A great feature is that Katapult will also work on files that are stored in your home directory as well as read your Amarok catalog making it easy to start playing your song of choice." [06:01] and soon URLs as long as Mez don't make me hack the Google module for it [06:01] Can we change work on files to find files ? [06:01] fix it [06:01] yes [06:01] work on files is very vague [06:01] sure i can [06:01] i have a note already to fix that [06:02] jjesse: give me the line you are writing and I'll fix it here as well [06:02] #kubuntu-book :) [06:02] ok [06:02] I see it in the future. I am telling you [06:02] DaSkreech: not working on it right now [06:02] we can make it 1,000 pages [06:02] nixternal: Right thorw that at jjesse while I try to read [06:02] working on my next work certification [06:02] Time Life size [06:02] jjesse: I picked that up from the note to fix comment [06:03] DaSkreech: if you can edit the damn Kubuntu chapter, then I know a freakin' repo with your name all over it!!! :) [06:03] jjesse: isn't it past your bedtime? :p [06:03] nixternal: yeah it is [06:04] lol [06:04] test tomrrow at 8am [06:04] it is getting close here as well, but I have a lot to do yet [06:04] first time i've looked at the material [06:04] I would love to get the printing.xml done tonight [06:04] ouch [06:04] what test? [06:04] altiris helpdesk certification [06:04] for work [06:04] ahh [06:05] is it possible to take a break during Feisty+1? [06:05] and do no work? [06:05] sure if you want [06:05] yup [06:05] What's the Roman for 50 again? [06:05] you know I couldn't stay away, I am addicted to this place [06:05] XXXXX [06:05] l [06:05] hahahaha [06:05] L [06:05] M? [06:05] L [06:05] M = 1,000 [06:06] Right [06:06] hmm ok its bed time fols [06:06] see you all tomorrow [06:06] g'nite jjesse [06:06] jjesse: Good night [06:07] nixternal: You sent jjesse your wireless stuff already? [06:07] yup [06:08] Ok cause I have no idea where to stick it [06:09] I'll proofread it after the chapter [06:09] well, hopefully somewhere where it won't hurt :) [06:10] Bring It on! I can take it! [06:12] lol [06:12] the bcm43xx-fwcutter might be a little hard to stomach [06:12] why there is so much info for a utility that only works with 3 chipsets [06:14] How many chipsets are tehre? [06:14] a ton, but the bcm43xx-fwcutter util is for Broadcom chipsets and actually interface with the kernel now [06:14] but the bcm43xx-fwcutter utility only supports like 3 chipsets [06:15] it will work with others, but it isn't guaranteed to be stable [06:15] should be, it either works natively or with NdisWrapper and that's it [06:17] ndiswrapper allows windows drivers to work on linux? [06:22] yup [06:23] ah sounds like a bad idea :) [06:23] how many chipsets work with open source drivers? [06:23] just a few [06:24] are the projects making headway? [06:24] orinoco. atheros, prismII, there is also madwifi but I don't hear much about it anymore [06:24] NdisWrapper works quite well actually [06:24] I am using it right now as we speak === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:31] the fix to bug 58639 screwed something up [06:31] Malone bug 58639 in kdebase "edgy: Cannot open theme file /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58639 [06:31] i'm not getting a theme anymore, and k-d-s won't overwrite kdmrc because it says it's customized === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:40] !info frozen-bubble feisty [06:40] frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.1.0-1 (feisty), package size 150 kB, installed size 712 kB === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:42] Hi Hobbsee [06:43] heya DaSkreech [06:44] hi Hobbsee [06:45] hey yuriy [06:46] nixternal: nearly done [06:46] nixternal: just need to s/c/k/g ;-) [06:46] nearly...that is a good sign [06:46] woohoo [06:53] Who uses Koffice? [06:54] i've tried [06:54] yuriy: I'm a trying [06:54] i've impressed one of my classmates with it [06:55] kivio was nice for doing databases hw [06:56] Yeah the Word processor is still a ways from enterprise ready though [06:57] no kde4 programs will run :( === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:02] I guess jjesse is a irssi man? [07:03] Nope. That's strange === Hobbsee --> work [07:20] Speedcrunch is being removed? === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-70-78.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:30] speedcrunch gone? not for KCalc is it? [07:32] I think that's what was decided === stephanbuys [n=stephanb@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:34] dude, anyone says that microsoft is better than Kubuntu to my face, the fight is on [07:34] I have to use AutoCAD for a project right [07:34] so I get WinXP SP2 from school for free [07:34] I install it, and now the system that I have ran Kubuntu on for nearly 2 years, locks up, freezes, and BSODS [07:34] FRESH INSTALL WITH UPDATES === DaSkreech writes it on the blackboard behind nixternal's back [07:35] so, I reinstall, and before I can even update, boom, death === nixternal installs Kubuntu back on the machine [07:35] my computer was actually pissed off at me for even installing that crap [07:35] damn, I need to order her some roses I guess [07:37] her? [07:37] nixternal: please, step away from your computer === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-20-124.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:38] lol [07:38] man, I seriously think XP killed my box [07:38] she is angry at me, big time [07:38] Riddell: KDE 4 3rd snappy for Feisty anytime soon? [07:39] stupid ubotu I wasn't talking boogs === DaSkreech phears for the Nix-man [07:44] heh [07:48] want a kopy of the text? [07:49] sure thing [07:49] then I am going to head off to never-never land [07:53] Anyone knows if speedcrunch has been offically dropped? [07:53] Tonio_: You were in on the discussion I think [07:55] DaSkreech: well it is installed here locally, but I did a dist-upgrade from edgy, so that could be why [07:55] Yeah. It was a few days ago I don't tink it would be in any of the Cds etc [07:55] think [07:55] and I don't see KCalc installed anywhere either [07:56] ahh [07:56] He does mention it in the book though [07:56] So I want to know if I should flag it to be dropped from the book === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:58] nixternal: You got mail [08:01] DaSkreech: removing speedcrunch from the WinFOSS portion of the CD, not from Kubuntu [08:01] nixternal: ok good [08:03] alrighty, I am going to bed now [08:03] g'nite === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-114-104.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-251-249.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-52148.0x535a54ca.naenxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:33] <_StefanS_> mornings [09:33] <_StefanS_> did the anyone else have their kdm theme defaulted due to kde*ubuntu10 updates ? [09:33] <_StefanS_> mine has a debian theme now :) [09:41] was kdebase updated? [09:41] in that case, kubuntu-default-settings must be bumped, to fix those configs. [09:42] _StefanS_: you can probably just re-install kubuntu-default-settings. [09:42] bbl. [09:42] <_StefanS_> oka [09:46] fdoving, _StefanS: same thing here [09:46] i tried reinstalling k-d-s but it won't overwrite kdmrc, says it's modified === nael [n=nael@ppp-71-139-172-148.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:52] hum.. [09:55] so.. the k-d-s postinst scripts fail? [09:57] fdoving: "kdm theme customized or already enabled, not touching kdmrc" [09:58] ok. i'll have to upgrade and figure this out. [09:59] looks like the postinst script doesn't handle this very well. [10:00] it doesn't specifically set the kubuntu theme, only enables theming. [10:02] .. if the theme is already set to the kubuntu theme. [10:24] hi === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio___ [n=tonio@106.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db442e3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chavo [n=chavo@67-22-97-187.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:45] Tonio___: k-d-s postinst script needs love. it doesn't hanlde the situations where the kubuntu theme is not pre-selected. === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:45] Tonio___: it only knows how to enable theming. [10:46] if the kubuntu theme is pre-selected and theming is disabled or something like that. [10:46] fdoving: I've just done it [10:46] nice :) [10:47] fdoving: I've removed the patches from kdebase, now it is build I'm fixing kds to configure both wallpaper and theme [10:47] great :) [10:47] some people have experienced debian settings in kdm since k-d-s is not updated yet.. :) === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:00] fdoving: that's feisty :) [11:01] fdoving: just uploaded, should be okay in an hour [11:02] nice, thanks :) === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio___ [n=tonio@219.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-034-086.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:44] Riddell: the old and annoying issue with gtk-qt-engines is reported to be fixed upstream.... [11:44] Riddell: I'm fixing it === alleeHol [n=ach@dialin-145-254-253-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee_ [n=ach@dialin-145-254-253-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee_ is now known as _allee === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon is now known as cringer === hunger_t is now known as hunger [12:57] dead day... === cringer is now known as imbrandon === Lure [n=lure@BSN-77-135-17.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db442e3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:23] Riddell: I've found how to change the virtual desktops number... [01:23] Riddell: will probably switch to 2 since that's what ubuntu does [01:23] and what we previously wanted to do [01:23] heya Tonio_! [01:23] Tonio_: i have a bug. would you like to fix it? [01:23] :) [01:24] Hobbsee: it's my debug day :) I already fixed lots of them this morning :) [01:24] including the super-old gtkqt-engines one [01:25] Hobbsee: which number ? [01:25] the gtk-qt-engines breaking apps in gnome one? nice!!! [01:25] yup :) [01:25] just uploaded gtk-qt-engines, kdebase and kds to fix this [01:25] bug 50971 [01:25] Malone bug 50971 in kdebase "kdesu will not start apps" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50971 [01:26] nice :) [01:26] see the dupe as well [01:26] okay will look at that [01:26] thanks :) [01:26] Tonio_: where was the virtual desktop number changing, btw? [01:28] kwinrc [01:28] yay, new snapshot :) [01:28] ahh [01:28] Hobbsee: but written on logout only so I couldn't find the fix hehe :) [01:28] oh *nice* [01:29] Tonio_: i could have sworn that we checked that... [01:29] Hobbsee: concerning kdesu, the problem is that it fails to launch any app at the very first time [01:29] I think riddell has no issue against this problem === Hobbsee tries. adept works === Hobbsee has seen this over and over, and others too === Hobbsee isnt sure this is a pebkac issue [01:31] Hobbsee: it will fail the first time you start adept [01:31] with kdesu [01:31] I don't know why exactly [01:32] did the stuff in the bug report look right? [01:33] I'd say yes, that describes the problem [01:33] but I don't think that's currently fixable [01:33] note that's not "high" issue [01:33] it works if you just launch it a second time :) [01:33] Hobbsee: I don't even know if that's a sudo or kdesu issue [01:34] Hobbsee: duplicates talks about sudo instead [01:34] well, for people to not know what's happening - and sometimes works the second time [01:34] right [01:34] kdesu is just a binding to sudo, so I'd say it's possible the issue is with sudo and not kdesu [01:35] something with xauthority eventually [01:35] right [01:35] if you wanted to shove it, importance it, comment on it, that'd be great === Hobbsee wonders about this kicker-kickoff package [01:37] oh, didnt finish reading it [01:39] Tonio_: have you been seeing the bugs about the krandrtray, and kcontrol, maybe system settings too being empty? [01:39] i'm not sure if it's on fresh dist-upgrade or what [01:39] Hobbsee: I would need to investigate more to comment on that, not to say bullshits :) [01:39] Tonio_: to which, sorry? [01:39] which one ? === chavo [n=chavo@67-22-97-187.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:39]