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cpk1if you can get to tty1 then you can look at xorg.conf and see if it is using "nv" or "vesa" otherwise the help when the cd first boots should tell you the grub option to use12:13
bulletxtenigma, in the boot options of grub, add the line acpi=off12:13
en1gmai get into tty1 and i was going to look at xorg.conf but there is no mc12:13
cpk1mc?12:13
en1gmamidnight commander12:14
Frost^cpk1: That actually did install something, unfortunately, it did not solve my problem.12:14
Frost^Thanks anyway, though.12:14
cpk1Frost^: those 2 are all that kdelibs depends on12:14
Frost^I guess my problem is with something other than kdelibs then.12:14
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Frost^I've no idea what the KJAS thingy belongs to.12:14
cpk1!find kjas12:15
archangel_shalom12:15
ubotuPackage/file kjas does not exist in edgy12:15
archangel_Hey does anyone here have the new gateway ta1 laptop?12:15
archangel_tablet12:15
Frost^KJAS is something KDE uses to run java applets.12:16
Frost^I've no idea why it isn't working for me.12:16
Frost^But I'm also clueless as to where it exists. It's a java package.12:16
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archangel_I cant get any version of linux to run on it and I cant find any threads that mention anything about it yet12:16
Frost^Using locate had no results either.12:17
DonMCNWhat are you system requirements for Kubuntu?12:17
cpk1i cant seem to find it either12:17
cpk1you need to update your db to use locate dont forget12:17
Frost^cpk1: Can you try locating KJASSecurityManager on your machine?12:17
Frost^Yeah, I did that.12:17
DonMCNWhat are the system requirements for Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake?12:17
archangel_not much12:17
cpk1nothing12:18
cpk1find -iname gives nothing as well12:18
archangel_I cant get a 133 to run it12:18
Frost^Drat. Java sure is evil..12:18
cpk1you installed using the java package?12:18
DonMCNI have 733 Mhz AMD Athlon with 348 MB of RAM and an old nVidia 4mb card12:18
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Frost^Yeah, I have java working just fine in firefox.12:18
DonMCNIts an old computer12:18
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Frost^It's a KDE issue, I'm pretty certain.12:19
archangel_you should be able to run it no prob12:19
Ace2016Hi all12:19
sistemashi all12:19
Frost^Do you happen to know where java is looking for packages when it uses the import statement?12:19
DonMCNIts very slow lol I'm trying to make it faster. On Windows XP my machine was much more faster.12:19
cpk1DonMCN: you could try XFCE instead12:19
DonMCNAnd that is?12:19
cpk1a DE that is supposed to lighter12:20
DonMCNWill I have to get rid of Kubuntu12:20
cpk1no, just pick XFCE from the login screen instead of KDE12:20
cpk1after you install it that is12:20
atoolDonMCN: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips12:21
DonMCNOkay I'll go look12:21
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atoolDonMCN: turning off all the "eye-candy"should help quite a bit12:22
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purpleposeidonhow do you change failsafe to use xterm?12:22
archangel_xp is by far the best OS M$ ahs come upI cant even get DSL to run effectively on my 133 that i just got12:22
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archangel_wow I didnt mean to have both statements on one line12:23
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DonMCNatool how do I turn off all the eye-candy12:24
atoolDonMCN: KDE tends to be a little resouce intensive, maybe give Gnome a try...can i say that here :))12:24
hybridstormHello all12:24
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atoolDonMCN: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips#_Disabling_various_eye_candy_features12:24
sistemashi i need some help12:24
hybridstormwhen setting up my wireless card I get the following error:12:25
hybridstormmatt@matt-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper12:25
hybridstormFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument12:25
hybridstormanyone know how to fix this?12:25
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khaije1whats the video editor of choice for kde?12:26
hybridstormtry kino12:27
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DonMCN How do I install XFCE12:28
Admiral_ChicagoDonMCN: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop12:28
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khaije1hybridstorm: i actually did, it seems to be geared heavily toward digital video recorders, it wouldn't work with the xvid files i had... :-(12:28
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DonMCNIt wont completely override Kubuntu will it and ill be able to use XFCE just like I would Kubuntu with all the programs and things I have installed?12:29
sistemasWHAT'S MEAN KDE?12:29
BluesKajkhaije1, if you want to transcode xvid to mpg try 'tovid'12:30
johannK Desktop Environment12:30
BluesKaj!tovid12:30
sistemassorry i'm new thanx12:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:30
DonMCNIt wont completely override Kubuntu will it and ill be able to use XFCE just like I would Kubuntu with all the programs and things I have installed?12:30
hybridstormkhaije1: that is the only one I know about, look at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=514976 for some ideas12:30
BluesKajkhaije1, http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Meta_GUI12:30
khaije1it seems like cinerella and kdenlive aren't int the repo's . i was kinda surprised to see that12:31
purpleposeidonDonMCN: You'll be able to choose whether to use kde or xfce when you log in12:31
matsavhalevkhaije1: i think cinerella is in feisty12:31
DonMCNoh okay. thank you.12:31
DonMCNits downloading right now. i appreciate all of your help.12:32
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khaije1matsavhalev: oh cool, guess i'll get along w/ kino for the time being, it looks good, but it's designed fior gnome afaik12:32
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hybridstormanyone have a moment to help me get my wireless card running?12:34
en1gmacpk1 i just got back sorry12:34
en1gmai gonna try that acpi=off12:34
en1gmabrb12:34
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johannhybridstorm: whats your problem?12:35
Admiral_ChicagoDonMCN: it won't overwrite kubuntu, you can log in to KDE at the log in screen12:35
Admiral_Chicagoor Xfce12:35
strHi there!12:35
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Admiral_Chicagoheloo12:35
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hybridstormjohann: I am getting this error:12:36
hybridstormmatt@matt-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper12:36
hybridstormFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument12:36
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Rob-Westwhere is nixternal12:36
johannhybridstorm: whick card is it12:36
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Rob-Westor does anyone have like a 128MB video card they dont need12:36
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poisonhi ^^12:36
johannk -> h12:36
poisonhow do I kill X in kubuntu?12:37
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hybridstormjohann: 0b:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)12:37
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purpleposeidonpoison: control-alt-backspace should do it12:38
bxnppoison: how do you normaly kill x in linux12:38
poisonbxnp: until now I usually logged out of kde or hit ctrl+alt+backspace =P12:39
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johannhybridstorm: ok, what says "iwconfig"12:39
bxnpwell why dont you do the same then12:39
bxnpit works12:39
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hybridstormjohann:12:40
hybridstormeth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"12:41
hybridstorm          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid12:41
hybridstorm          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off12:41
hybridstorm          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:012:41
hybridstorm          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:012:41
hybridstorm          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:012:41
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Rob-Westcan anyone help12:41
BluesKaj! pastebin | hybridstorm12:41
ubotuhybridstorm: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:41
johannhybridstorm: sounds good. and "iwlist scan"12:41
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johannhybridstorm: does it find any APs12:42
Admiral_ChicagoRob-West: Richard (nixtern ) is probably in clas12:42
Rob-Westok then12:42
hybridstormjohann: eth1      No scan results12:42
Rob-Westdoes anyone have a video card they dont need12:42
hybridstormjohann: the light on my laptop for the wifi card is also off12:42
johannhybridstorm: is there an AP to reach12:43
bxnphybridstorm: you have to install the driver for your card12:43
hybridstormjohann: yes, I can connect to it in windows12:43
bxnpits not recognized at the moment if your light on the card is not on12:43
hybridstormbxnp: I installed a driver, says the hardware is present12:43
archangel_does anyone have a gateway tablet laptop12:44
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bxnpwell if youre ligts are not on its not going to work for scanning for wifi networks12:44
bxnpyou need these lights on12:44
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hybridstormbxnp: I know that but I am trying to get the card to come on12:45
bxnpwhat driver did you load12:45
archangel_I'm hoping I'm not stuck with windoze12:45
hybridstormbxnp:12:45
hybridstormInstalled ndis drivers:12:45
hybridstormbcmwl5  driver present, hardware present12:45
hybridstormbcmwl5a driver present, hardware present12:45
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piro_anyone here use nxserver from nomachine?12:46
bxnpdid you do a modprobe ndiswrapper afther that12:46
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hybridstormbxnp: yes, and that is when I got the error12:46
bxnpoke and those driver where that drivers from the cd wich came with the card12:47
bxnpor did you download the latest for you card12:47
hybridstormbxnp: I downloaded the drivers I used when I had the card working in fedora12:47
chiaroscuropiro: i've used it in the past,plan on reinstalling it when i reload kubuntu tonight12:47
bxnpwhat was the error you got hybridstorm12:48
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bxnpcould you use pastebin for that12:48
bxnpat http://www.pastebin.ca12:48
hybridstormbxnp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7120/12:49
hybridstormsorry already used the ubuntu one12:50
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bxnphybridstorm: do this12:53
bxnpsudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils look what the correct name for that12:53
bxnpyou dont have ndiswrapper utils installed hybridstorm12:53
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hybridstormbxnp: yes, I have it installed12:54
bxnpthe utils12:54
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bxnpcause the error sugest you dont have it installed12:54
bxnpthats why you cant do modprobe cause it cant find ndiswrapper12:55
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hybridstormlet me double check12:55
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bxnpsudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils12:55
hybridstormbxnp: shows installed in adept manager12:56
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purpleposeidonhow do you change failsafe to use xterm instead of konsole?12:57
bxnpadept i never use adept12:57
bxnpwhat happends when you do that command on the prompt12:57
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leighhello?12:58
Omnifrogribbit12:58
leighhow do i find out what channel  to chat on?12:58
Adydastry /list12:58
leighthanks!12:58
Adydasyour welcome12:58
leighperfect12:59
Adydasbxnp: the command for adept is apt-get12:59
bxnplol you get a lot of out put leigh12:59
bxnpoke Adydas12:59
hybridstormbxnp: ndiswrapper-utils is already the newest version.12:59
Adydasas it said this will create alot of network traffic12:59
Adydasbxnp: sudo apt-get install pacakagename12:59
bxnpoke12:59
Adydasbxnp: sudo apt-cache search packagename01:00
Adydasto find stuff01:00
bxnpyes Adydas i know01:00
bxnpthanks Adydas01:00
Adydasforgive my blurry eyes i could have swore you asked..01:00
bxnpnope01:00
Adydastierd, smashed up from a concert last night01:00
Adydasmy bad01:00
bxnpnp01:00
hybridstormadydas, he was saying he never uses adept the manager :)01:01
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Adydasoh ok, neither do i01:01
bxnpbut Adydas hybridstorm has a little problem with his wifi card01:01
hybridstormjust a tiny one01:01
Adydasi aint got or tryed installing wifi but try me01:01
hybridstormand I will be most greatful if anyone can help me with it01:02
Adydaswhats the issue?01:02
hybridstormAdydas: I get this error when I try to modprobe the ndiswrapper01:03
hybridstormndiswrapper-utils is already the newest version.01:03
hybridstormerr wait01:03
bxnpoke remove the drivers01:03
bxnpand reinstall them with ndiswrapper01:03
hybridstormAdydas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7120/01:03
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hybridstormbxnp: do you recall the command to remove them with?01:03
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hybridstormbxnp: nevermind, it is -e01:04
bxnpfirst do ndiswrapper -l01:04
bxnpdo you see an error01:04
hybridstormbxnp: no error with -l01:05
Adydashave you done a kernel upgrade receently hybridstorm01:05
Adydasvia dist-upgrade or source01:05
hybridstormAdydas: I just installed last night and I did an update then01:05
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Adydasthat update may have caused the issue01:06
Adydashave you installed ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 & ndiswrapper-common01:07
bxnpwich kubuntu are you on01:07
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hybridstormAdydas: Yes, I have both installed01:08
hybridstormbxnp: I think I downloaded 6.10 edgy, but I am not 100% on that01:08
Adydasit seems the latest kernel causes issues, check out this forum link01:08
Adydasit has another link to list hardware and issues01:09
Adydasseems pritty common tho01:09
Adydashttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35753101:09
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bxnpah he has not ndiswrapper-common installed01:09
bxnpi know he was missing something01:09
ibbhow do attack an usb mp3 player, i can see it in kinfo but wont come up in storage devices01:10
Adydashybridstorm: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common01:10
Adydas:P01:10
ibb*attach01:10
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Adydasto be super sure, sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 ndiswrapper-common01:11
ibbhow do attach an usb mp3 player, i can see it in kinfo but wont come up in storage devices01:12
ccherrettany idea why kubuntu reboots sometimes from the shutdown menu but sometimes just goes to a black screen. I am running on a laptop01:12
ccherrettif I run sudo reboot it works fine01:12
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bulwynklhelp!!! I seem to have killed systemsettings!01:13
hybridstormAdydas: I removed util and reinsalled it and did the same for common and the modprobe does not fail01:13
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bxnpgood hybridstorm and are your leds on01:14
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bulwynklpython  is giving me an error message - Index out of range01:14
Adydasbulwynkl: kde-systemsettings - easy to use control centre for KDE01:14
hybridstormbxnp: nope01:14
Adydassudo apt-get install kde-systemsettings01:14
bxnpoke remove your card and put it back in01:14
bxnpmaybe twice01:14
hybridstormbxnp: it is an onboard card01:14
bulwynkland when I change stuff in the monitor settings I get no option to apply the settings changes...01:14
bxnpand it should go on01:14
bxnpoh01:14
bxnplol01:14
bxnpthen you have to reboot01:14
hybridstormshould I get some pliers? lol01:14
Adydasand then stand on your head01:14
hybridstormok, I will be back01:15
bxnpyes thats what arnold said01:15
bulwynklalready newest version01:15
Adydastry reinstalling perhaps bulwynkl01:15
bulwynklAdydas - already newest version01:15
Adydasapt-get err01:15
Adydasyes i saw, forceing a reinstall may help01:15
bulwynklso, apt-get -reinstall?01:16
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Adydasinsure you havent lost or del a file it needs01:16
Adydasi think its --reinstall packagename01:16
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bulwynkl--reinstall - that is double dash...01:17
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bulwynklstand by.01:17
Adydasprobly wont hurt but if its bust i cant see any harm in trying and checking01:17
bxnpmy god upgrading is taking a long time from dapper to edgy01:17
Adydashurt = help01:17
Adydasupgrading from edgy cd to edgy latest via net took 600mb for me01:17
bulwynkl*sigh* it wanted the command install as well as the flag -- reinstall.01:18
bxnpoke01:18
bxnpwell its setting up blab blah01:18
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bxnpi dont understand why does it not do font configuration only ones but every time01:18
bxnpupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-11-38601:18
Adydasyeah apt-get install --reinstall packagename01:18
bxnp:)01:18
bxnpi am getting there01:19
hybridstormbxnp & Adydas: still no dice01:19
Adydaswhats the word hybridstorm01:19
bxnpdamm01:19
bxnpoke01:19
bxnpmodprobe ndiswrapper already done01:19
bxnpi guess01:19
hybridstormshould I do it in the konsole?01:20
brokenheartedokay so seems that my internet pages are lagging.... When I scroll up or down its slow... Also when i move boxes around on my desktop01:20
bulwynkl*sigh* not giving me the admin login (kdesu??) - this has been  occuring randomly before.01:20
brokenheartedCould anyone please help me01:20
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bxnpyes in te console hybridstorm01:21
bxnpas root01:21
poisonstupid question -> what is the easiest way to upgrade to 'current' packages? Is it possible to upgrade from edgy to Feisty ?01:21
bxnpor use sudo i meant01:21
hybridstormthe modprobe shows no errors01:21
hybridstormbut still no lights on the card01:21
brokenhearted?01:21
bulwynklrunning from konsole seems to work every time...01:22
hybridstormbrokenhearted: you just have to ask and see if anyone knows01:22
cpk1poison: yes, its possible, you would need to change all instances of edgy to fiesty in your sources list and also remember fiesty is alpha01:22
bxnpwhat is the output off ifconcfig01:22
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Adydashybridstorm: what about via the kmenu system settings network01:22
Adydascan you see the NIC?01:22
brokenheartedIm sorry im just new to this01:22
hybridstormbxnp: just eth0 and lo01:22
cpk1hybridstorm: what does ndiswrapper -l say?01:22
bulwynklOK, reinstalled kde-systemsettings and still getting same behaviour. python giving error message list index out of range, and no option to apply changed settings01:23
Adydasok perhaps reinstalling python is needed01:23
hybridstormAdydas: I can use the normal nic but the wireless card is listed as disabled, does nothing when I try to disable it01:23
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hybridstormer enable it rather01:23
poisoncpk1: or is it possible to upgrade to current packages on edgy? OOo2.1, koffice 1.6.2, current gimp ... ? I don't see them in the package list =(01:23
Adydashaah i was going to say,, Yeah disabling it wont help01:23
bulwynklhint: this started when I made 2 changes and applied but then stupidly killed (ctrl-alt-back) the xserver rather than restart.01:24
hybridstormcpk1: bcmwl5a         driver installed, hardware present01:24
bulwynklOK, trying apt-get --reinstall intall python then01:24
poisoncpk1: sry ... I would read the manual if I currently wasn't suck on 800x600 =(01:24
poison*stuck01:24
cpk1poison: i have a koffice 1.6.2 install pending01:24
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poisonare packages on kubuntu always this outdated? =/01:26
cpk1hybridstorm: when you do lshw does your wireless card have a logical name?01:26
cpk1poison: ubuntu isnt a bleeding edge distro01:27
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hybridstormcpk1: logical name: eth101:27
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Adydasisnt eth wired? and wlan wireless?01:28
bxnpoverhere its wlan001:28
hybridstormthat is what I thought but that is eth101:28
cpk1its whatever you feel like making it01:28
bxnpbut somethimes it could allso be eth0 or 1 or whatever01:28
Adydasoh ok01:28
poisoncpk1: OOo2.1 isn't bleeding edge, it's the recommended stable version =(01:28
jpiccolowould anyone know why i can get to my routers interface with a live cd but not booted into my os regularly01:29
cpk1hybridstorm: so do 'sudo ifup eth1'01:29
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hybridstormcpk1: ifup: interface eth1 already configured01:30
cpk1hybridstorm: ok 'iwlist eth1 scan'01:30
hybridstormcpk1: eth1      No scan results01:31
cpk1i take it a network is in range?01:31
hybridstormyes, ten feet at the most...works fine in windows01:31
cpk1what card is this?01:31
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hybridstormcpk1: 0b:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)01:32
malik__any utility to turn off comp after the scheduled task are done?01:32
cpk1of course, broadcom43xx01:32
poisonbye ^^01:32
hybridstormyeah, on board in my hp zd8000 laptop01:33
cpk1you might be better off trying to use native drivers, one second01:33
bulwynklNup, systemsettings still not happy - kdesu seems to be a little happier though :-) does that count as a part fix? ;-)01:33
bulwynklwhat I'm actually trying to do is set up dual monitors. Actually got it partly working before I was stupid.01:34
bulwynklfrustrated that system settings now not a happy thing.01:34
cpk1hybridstorm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 scroll down to section 1.301:34
bulwynklhave run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg without any luck.01:35
cpk1hybridstorm: just remember to unload ndiswrapper if you try that01:36
hybridstormcpk1: I found this in my dmesg01:36
hybridstorm[17179586.948000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not availabl01:36
hybridstorme or load failed.01:36
bulwynklhave swapped old xorg.conf back in - which was successful showing cloned monitors but systemsettings still won't let me apply settings changes.01:36
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cpk1hybridstorm: what gave you that error?01:39
hybridstormcpk1: it was in my "dmesg"01:39
bxnphybridstorm: rmmod ndiswrapper01:40
bxnpwith sudo offcourse01:40
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hybridstormcpk1: I get "interface doesn't support scanning: no such device" after I followed that page01:48
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tominglishi, what is the best way to install nvidia-glx on kubuntu feisty?01:49
BluesKaj!fiesty01:49
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+101:49
tominglisthanks i will go there01:49
hybridstormcpk1: when I opened network settings it just came on01:49
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bxnpso it works hybridstorm01:53
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hybridstormbxnp: the light is on but I still cannot scan networks, or at least it does not find them01:54
bxnpwhat does iwconfig eth1 says01:54
hybridstormeth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"01:55
hybridstorm          Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.484 GHz  Access Point: Invalid01:55
hybridstorm          Bit Rate=1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=18 dBm01:55
hybridstorm          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off01:55
hybridstorm          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:001:55
hybridstorm          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:001:55
hybridstorm          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:001:55
bxnplol use pastebin01:56
bxnpif you output that much01:56
hybridstormmeh lol01:56
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bulwynklstill no luck with system settings etc.01:58
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moparisthebesthttp://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:Linux:_Every_time_you_use_EXT3%2C_Hans_Reiser_kills_again02:09
moparisthebesthaha, sorry about that02:10
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hybridstormonehello all, I just wanted to drop back in and say I got my wireless card working02:13
hybridstormonethanks to all that helped02:13
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joanrihola02:16
Adydashowd u do it hybridstormone02:16
Shadowtesteranyone using kmldonkey with kubuntu I am a kubuntu and linux newbie and only seen the mldonkey package in the add and remove programs but heard about the kmldonkey for the kde desktop02:16
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hybridstormonenot really sure, I installed the native driver and opened network settings and it just came one02:17
hybridstormoneon*02:17
Adydashopefully it stays going02:17
Adydas:p02:17
hybridstormoneit still will not scan for ap's but I put the essid in and it work02:17
hybridstormoneworked*02:17
hybridstormonenow my wireless card is working I can't type02:17
hybridstormonethanks for the help Adydas02:18
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surbI'm getting an error whenever I try to use sudo.  I recently adjusted the time on my system, and sudo tells me that the "timestamp is too far in the future," and displays the time linux had before I changed it.02:20
ryanakcasince qtparted is broken on my copy of today's amd64 daily build, can I install using fdisk as the partitioner? skip the partitioning step?02:20
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hybridstormoneryanakca: I don't know but you can give it a shot I guess :)02:24
shane_Question, I recently installed Kubuntu on my IBM laptop and now my sound card doesn't work and my dvd player won't play the dvds. Any ideas?02:24
ryanakcahybridstormone: I can't skip the partitioning step, that's the thing02:24
Adydasdvd wont work due to codecs id be willing to bet02:24
shane_How do you change that?02:25
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Adydasinstall it02:25
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shane_it's just called codecs?02:25
Adydasill get the packagename02:26
shane_sorry, I'm new to Linux systems02:26
ryanakca!restricted02:26
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:26
ryanakcaAdydas: ^^02:26
callistosup room?02:26
Adydasshane_: try using this, it will isntall 2 programs vlc and mplayer i can play dvds using VLC if these dont help use the above..02:27
Adydassudo apt-get install vlc mplayer xmms-xmmplayer02:27
hybridstormonehello callisto02:27
shane_Thanks I'll check it out02:27
callistohows my fellow kubuntu ppl doing?02:27
hybridstormonecallisto, a little hungry but other then that doing well02:29
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callistohaha, i hear that hybrid02:29
hellcattravhey all, if i installed kubuntu, but i use GNOME, can i get rid of the KDE features?02:29
om3gathat would defeat the point wouldnt it ??02:30
hybridstormonekellcattrav: you are looking for just plain ubuntu then02:30
hellcattravwould it make Kubuntu not function>02:30
hellcattravHybridstormone: yes02:31
hybridstormoneit would make kubuntu just plain ubuntu :)02:31
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hellcattravHybridstormone: but im bad at installing things(mircale installed kubuntu properly) and don't really want to reinstall ubuntu over it(not like i have any data saved- just been using it a couple of days)02:31
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hybridstormonehellcatrav: you can just install gnome and select it when you login02:32
shane_sorry I'm an idot, I can't find where to type that command in?  Do you just open a terminal window?02:32
Adydasyes02:32
Adydasterminal window02:32
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om3gai like kubuntu better than ubuntu02:33
om3gaunless you just really like gnome02:33
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hybridstormonegnome is too much like windows for me :)02:34
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shane_hmm, it says it couldn't find the package?02:35
jrattnerQuestion: Does anyone use mail-notification here?02:35
Adydasshane you need to open your repos by the sounds of it02:36
shane_couldn't find package vlc02:36
shane_I'm clueless02:36
shane_repos?02:36
Adydashere this should help and i stress help you02:36
Adydashttp://adydas.net/linux/repos.html02:36
shane_lol, thanks02:36
Adydasdont skip parts, follow it step by step it should work02:37
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shane_I need the help, this is brand new to me02:37
shane_thanks02:37
Adydasin your case because thats what i did, and then installed vlc it should work 100%, Just dont hold me to do02:37
Adydasit02:37
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hellcattravHybridestormone: why do you think ubuntu is too much like windows02:41
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hellcattravwhat is the command to uninstall xchat?02:42
hellcattravif i got it with aptitude02:42
Adydassudo apt-get remove xchat02:42
Adydas?02:42
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hellcattravk02:43
om3gai think he said gnome was too much like windows02:45
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Rob-Westdoes anyone have a video card they dont need02:52
Rob-WestPM me02:52
hellcattravok02:52
hellcattravyou know how in GNOME THE Clock has the date and if i click on it, it expands to show the month? can i get that in Kubuntu/KDE?02:52
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cpk1yeah, click on the clock02:53
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hellcattravoh02:54
hellcattravok..but does it work for Evolution?02:54
om3gamine has time and date  like said click on the time02:54
hellcattravor is it kontact specific?02:54
cpk1what?02:54
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om3gause kmail02:54
hellcattravwhich is better? konact, kmail(?) or evolution?  I want a calander, appt function, no need to get emails02:55
cpk1kontact is kmail02:55
cpk1kontact is the everything suite02:55
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josealguien me puede ayudar con el navegador de konkeror02:57
hellcattravbut which is better02:57
josekonqueror02:57
hellcattrav!es02:57
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:57
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om3gai havent goten to play with kmail to much yet mainly b/c it wont open for some reason02:58
om3gabut evolution seemed good to me02:58
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hellcattravok02:59
hellcattravbecause im currently debating if i should keep kde, or GNOME, bout 50/50 atm02:59
om3gayou can run gnome apps in kde03:00
hellcattravyeah03:00
hellcattravbut im in kde atm03:00
hellcattravand i click on the clock, and it shows the 26 as empty, but in evolution i had added an event03:00
om3gai know but you dont have to change to gnome you can run evolution in kde03:01
hellcattravand in GNOME that event caused the 26 to become bold03:01
hellcattravoh03:01
hellcattravok03:01
hellcattravbut would that change  the calander wheni click on teh clock?03:01
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om3ganot sure03:01
om3gahavent tried it03:01
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joshua__hola03:05
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Avalon_Can someone tell me whats wrong with my live DVD? everytime i've tried to boot edgy, I get an error that says can't access TTY job control is off and I get dumped at a busybox console. I've rebunrnt the DVD 3 times already.03:06
shane_Adyads, it says I have all the latest versions already.  I'll try another dvd and see if it helped.03:06
shane_thanks03:06
om3gahey how do i end a program in terminal srry new to the terminal03:06
Avalon_Control om3ga03:06
Avalon_control c that is03:07
hellcattravok im in evolution, but can't seem to find out where the account info is kept, cos i need to delete it, cos i just hit random keys to get past that portion03:07
joshua__alguin sabe como poner un video de protector de pantalla con mplayer y xwinwrap?03:07
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hellcattravhow do i get knotes03:09
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hellcattravi can't find them03:11
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hellcattravhow do i make the clock a 12 hour clock, and not a 24 hour one?03:11
matsavhalevhellcattrav: right click clock choose time and date format03:12
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matsavhalevthen adjust time and dates tab and remove the AMPM03:12
hellcattravmatsavhalev: ok03:13
hellcattravmatsavhalev: then what? i can't find any 12/24 hour option03:13
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matsavhalevhellcattrav: change the time format, remove the AMPM from the end of it03:15
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hellcattravmatsavhalev: thanks03:17
hellcattravmatsavhalev: do you know how i can get the calander dates to be bold, if i have an event that ive added in evolution, even though IM in KDE?03:17
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matsavhalevhellcattrav: no idea sorry, might not be possible if you mean integration of evolution with kde03:20
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hellcattravyeah i guess i do...03:21
hellcattravoh well03:21
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matsavhalevhellcattrav: does that happen in gnome?03:24
slyfoxDoes anyone know hot can I give my ip to someone if I am connected via router? I mean My ip is 192.168.1.2 but that is local area ip address, how can someone coonecte to me via internet? What is my full address ?03:25
matsavhalevslyfox: check in your router for a DMZ setting03:25
matsavhalevslyfox: then you can forward the ports to that computer03:26
slyfoxmatsavhalev: Thanks !03:26
matsavhalevslyfox: to get your actual ip address (for the router) try www.whatismyipaddress.com03:26
hellcattravmatsavhalev: it appeared to, if i typed something in (say my parent coming back from a trip) then when i clicked on teh clock and the calander popped up, it would be bold, but in KDE it appears to do nothing which is a bummer03:26
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matsavhalevhellcattrav: yeah its a bummer didnt realise that feature existed. Maybe put in a feature request for Kontact?03:27
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matsavhalevslyfox: np03:28
Rob-Westdoes anyone have a video card of atleast 64MB and nvidia03:28
Rob-WestPM me03:28
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Rob-Westthat they dont need03:29
ryanakcasince qtparted is broken on my copy of today's amd64 daily build, can I install using fdisk as the partitioner? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/Gryda/screenshot1.png03:32
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Rob-Westif u have a video card of atleast 128MB AGP or PCI that is Nvidia and not needed PM me03:35
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hellcattravmatsavhalev: how can i do that?03:38
akaohey guys03:38
akaoanyone around who is knowledgable about ati cards and kubuntu?03:39
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Bearcathey folka03:40
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matsavhalevhellcattrav: not sure really try checking the kde site03:40
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hellcattravmatsavhalev: ok03:44
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om3gaok kmail is kicking my tail how do i get my yahoo mail going to it03:45
cpk1does yahoo let you use pop?03:45
om3gai think it does03:46
om3gai belive to set up in thunderbird had to use pop03:46
cpk1first you would need to look at yahoo's site to figure out the pop server and smtp server03:46
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om3gai set up under pop303:47
om3gaok03:47
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cpk1om3ga: looks like you might need to use freepop but I am not sure03:49
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om3gai was getting ready to ask if i needed to use somthing like ypop03:49
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endo602hello03:49
cpk1freepop is in the repos though03:49
Bearcati'm trying to get dvds, mp3 etc playing on a kubuntu installation. So, im looking for xine-extracodecs and libdvdcs2.  What repository do i need to add to get those?03:50
endo602can someone help me configure my nvidia card for my new kernel03:50
endo602when i updated the kernel i cant login to xwindows03:50
endo602the kde desktop03:50
cpk1!libxine-extracodecs03:50
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB03:50
cpk1!dvdcss203:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:50
cpk1!libdvdcss203:50
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:50
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Bearcatahh, a cool bot. thanks03:51
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endo602can someone help me update my nvidia driver for the new kernel?03:51
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cpk1endo602: did you install the driver using apt?03:52
om3gain adept i found this fetchyahoo (retrive mail from yahoo mailmail service)03:52
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skoopdoes anyone know what the block size is in kubuntu?03:53
cpk1om3ga: i suppose that would probably work =)03:53
skoopor simply willing to run a command on their system that will figure that out ;)03:54
om3gaok03:54
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calloc`Hallo folks03:55
calloc`I'm trying to install kubuntu edgy 64 bit onto my pentium D, but seems to be freezing at a light blue X server screen03:55
intelikeyi finally got cups working.  now if i can install the printer.....03:55
calloc`anyone ever come across that?03:55
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skoopanyone?03:56
skoopcan someone maybe run the following command and let me know of the result: tune2fs -l /dev/hda1 | grep "Block size"03:56
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calloc`ok03:57
cpk1its 409603:57
calloc`'tune2fs' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program, or batch file.03:57
calloc`hehe, jk03:58
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skoopcpk1: thanks03:58
cruiseoveridecpk1, is hda1 and ext3 filesystem?03:58
cruiseoverides/and/an03:58
okokokoit's possible install kiba-dock on kubuntu?03:58
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cpk1hda1 is a partition03:58
om3gaim good to go as long as i can figure out how to work this now03:58
cpk1ext3 is a filesystem03:58
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skoopcpk1: is the filesystem on your hda1 partition ext3?03:58
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cpk1yeah03:59
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okokokoit's possible install kiba-dock on kubuntu?04:01
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nkayhanHi, I have some errors on boot04:02
om3gawell got fetchyahoo up in terminal....  didnt really do anything04:02
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robyhi all, i have the latest kubuntu herd 4 installed, and I can't figure out how to add  the mac style menu bar at the top of the screen04:03
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robyalso searching on google i can't find a solution, all the guides are for old kde versions... :(04:04
om3gaLogging in securely via SSL as om3ga83 on Thu Feb 22 22:03:20 200704:04
robyany advice?04:04
om3gaYou are using 6% of your 1.0GB limit.04:04
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om3gaCountry code : us       Folder: Inbox   Version: 2.10.204:04
om3gaGetting Message ID(s) for message(s) 1 - 25.04:04
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om3gaFailed: Couldn't open output: >>/var/mail/om3ga at /usr/bin/fetchyahoo line 1361, <STDIN> line 2.04:04
nkayhanWhen I clean installed kubuntu edgy, I got these errors (and never saw the pretty boot spash screen) but never thought much of it.  Now, there's a noticable slow start up time, and a ton errors.  Nothing seems wrong once I boot, but there's I need to fix it04:04
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nkayhan*I need04:05
nixternalroby: right click the kicker and in there you have the options to add another bar04:05
nkayhanplease, help, my startup is very slow, and on a clean intall too, I don't know whats up04:05
nixternalnow configuring it to look like a Mac, well there I can't help you, I am a KDE default lovin' freak :)04:06
robyi saw i can add new panels, but none of them seems to be the correct one04:06
robyi see the following:04:06
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nkayhanWhen I try to see my boot logs, the file doesn't exist, what gives?04:07
robydock applciation bar, external taskbar, kasbar, panel, universal sidebar04:07
roby???04:07
robyi don't like modding kde like mac, but that bar is very useful for me04:07
robyanyway, it is just an extra, it doesn't matter, thanks anyway :)04:08
nkayhanroby, you mean, you want the tool bar of aps to be outside the window?04:08
robyyes!04:09
robyin common to all the apps04:09
nkayhanOk, clarification is key (I don't know how to do it though)04:09
roby:(04:10
Bearcatcool04:10
Bearcatdvds are working now04:10
robynobody can helps me?04:10
nkayhanI don't know how to help you, I just googled a little, and nothing04:12
Bearcatroby: do you mean the menu bar?04:12
robyyes04:12
Bearcatas in file...edit...help   etc?04:13
robyyes04:13
Bearcatthat's easy if you know where to look04:13
roby:)04:13
Bearcatopen up the control center and go to desktop04:13
robyi knew in the previous kde release but not now :(04:13
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Agent_bobUnable to load the requested driver:04:14
Agent_bobUnable to create the Foomatic driver [Lexmark-1020,lm1100] . Either that driver does not exist, or you don't have the required permissions to perform that operation.04:14
Bearcatroby:  goto "behavior" and choose "Current applications menu bar (liek Mac OS)"04:14
robyfound!04:14
robyfound now thnaks a lot!04:14
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robyi searched everywhere but not in the desktop settings :ops: :(04:15
Agent_bobcould anyone confirm that that driver is in the database please ?04:15
Bearcatroby: no prob. I use that too. It's one of the things that keeps me out of gnome04:15
roby;)04:15
robyuao that's cool at last!04:16
Agent_bob>>> Lexmark-1020 <<<  driver confirmation please ?     (dapper drake.)04:16
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nkayhanroby, I like ubuntu 'cause of the sheer number of people, someone's bound to know the answer to your question!04:16
Hail_SpacecakeI have a small lan with just a crossover cable between two comps04:16
Hail_Spacecakeif I'm one one comp04:16
nkayhanWhen I try to see my boot logs, the file doesn't exist, what gives?04:16
Hail_Spacecakehow do I find out the ip address of the other computer on the network?04:16
Bearcatroby: if you like the way Macs look, get the baghira theme (it's in the repositorites) and choose the itunes theme :)04:17
robynkayhan: yes that's the first time I join the channel and I can see there are so many people..cool! :)04:17
Bearcatroby: i have a mac-like look with charcoal grey blushed metal and pulsating purple buttons :)04:18
Agent_bobHail_Spacecake you could run   ifconfig   on both...04:18
robyi have baghira, but i don't use it as i have a mac and i know it is not possible to get a linux distro looks like mac, and actually i don't think it is good to do that, anyway i have never heard about the itunes theme, i'll look for it now04:18
Bearcatnkayhan: yeah! And i'm not even a kubuntu user!04:18
Hail_SpacecakeAgent_bob: I know04:19
Hail_Spacecakebut I'd really like to know how to do it from just one computer04:19
Hail_Spacecakefor when they're not in close proximity04:19
nkayhanHail_Spacecake: ksysguard works well04:20
robyBearcat: where  i can find and set the itunes theme?04:21
robyi have to apt-get it?04:21
Bearcatone moment04:21
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nkayhanroby, KDE look is great place for themes04:21
Bearcatroby: get baghira-win from aptget04:21
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Bearcatyou can just get it via adept (or what ever it is)04:22
nkayhanhttp://www.kde-look.org/04:22
Bearcatnaah04:22
Bearcatjust get it with synaptic04:22
Bearcatthen you don't have to compile it04:22
robyi try04:23
robyi nthe meantime i found04:23
robyops rebooting04:23
Bearcatlol04:23
nkayhanSo can anyone help me with my boot errors?04:24
nkayhanWhen I try to see my boot logs, the file doesn't exist, what gives?04:24
Agent_bobnkayhan which file ?04:25
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robyi again, the laptop battery was disharged04:25
roby:doh:04:25
brokenheartedHey could anyone help me with this lagging problem?04:25
robyBearcat: do i need this?04:26
robykwin-baghira04:26
roby?04:26
robyi have already installed it04:27
Bearcatroby: thats the one04:27
robyok i have it, now in appearance i should see the itunes theme? i look for it04:27
brokenheartedAnyone?04:27
robyanyway in the meantime i found something bad about the mac-style menubar :( it doesn't "work" with the gtk apps, is that right?04:28
Bearcatroby: one moment phone. go to the settings for it04:28
Bearcatroby: right04:28
Agent_bobok no one on the net can/will check.  i'll try something else.04:28
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brokenheartedthen were can I get help??04:30
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robycan't find it,04:32
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[R] eapersomebody help my with my ati radeon x1600, i have the latest ati drivers installed, but ... http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4847/atix1600qt6.jpg04:33
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robygood night to all, see you04:36
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[R] eaperplease somebody help me with my ati radeon x1600, i have the latest ati drivers installed, but ... http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4847/atix1600qt6.jpg04:42
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angasule[R] eaper: nice wallpaper :) I don't know anything about ATI, though, sorry04:45
NightBird[R] eaper, disable the composite extension04:47
[R] eaperits disabled04:47
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NightBirdit sure doesn't look like it... those were the glitches I was seeing when I have composite enabled...04:48
NightBirdbut then again... we've talked about this before...04:48
[R] eaperyeah04:48
[R] eaperbut it just doesn't work04:48
tbodineDoes anyone here use Baghira that could help me get it set up?04:48
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[R] eaperNightBird: take a look to the log file: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/88594404:50
NightBirdwill do04:50
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NightBird[R] eaper: why is NoAccel set to no?04:55
[R] eaperi don't know04:56
NightBirdAIGLX is failing to load in __driCreateNewScreen_2005072704:57
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[R] eaperand? sorry but im really new on *ubuntu04:58
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intelikeyok i went another route and determined that the driver is indeed there.  so it's a permissions problem.   the thing i don't understand is that i'm running the printer setup as root so why am i getting a can not create... permissions error ?04:58
[R] eaperNightBird: what should i do?05:02
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intelikey[R] eaper i just got here.  what's the issue ?05:02
[R] eaperthis http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4847/atix1600qt6.jpg05:02
intelikeyor just got back actually.05:03
intelikey[R] eaper ok that's a picture   can you not discribe the problem ?05:03
[R] eaperi have the latest ati drivers, but my screen looks like that05:03
intelikeyfor a guy that doesn't like the gui a word is worth a thousand pictures.05:04
[R] eaperlol05:04
intelikeyok ati.   did you follow the wiki ?05:04
[R] eaperyes05:04
intelikey!ati | [R] eaper05:04
ubotu[R] eaper: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:04
intelikeythat one ^ ?05:04
[R] eaperyes :(05:04
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[R] eaperall of them :(05:04
intelikeyok let me look around a bit.05:04
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intelikey[R] eaper did you ask in  #ati ?05:05
[R] eaperthere is a #ati room?? damn05:06
intelikey:)05:06
intelikeynot sure it will help you but yes there is.05:06
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intelikeyand we call them "channels"  not "rooms"05:06
intelikeya room is where yahoo kids play the  asl  game.05:07
[R] eaperhere is my log http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/885944 and my xorg.conf http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/88635805:07
[R] eaper05:08
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intelikeylooks like both are going to  404 on me.05:09
[R] eaperdamn05:09
intelikeyno wait i'm getting something now.   man it's slow.05:09
[R] eaperyeah :(05:09
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intelikeyok the first looks alright.05:12
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intelikeylooking at the second.05:12
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intelikey!fglrx05:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:14
intelikeyignore that.05:15
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Dr_willis:)05:15
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shane_anyone else have problems with their DVD telling them they don't have the rights after installing Kubuntu?05:16
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Dr_willisshane_,  cant say that i do...05:17
intelikey[R] eaper i'm no expert in that. not by a long shot.  but line  98  of the second pastebin (your xorg.conf) could be a problem  generally speaking frame buffering and high definition graphice don't play nice togather.05:17
Dr_willishavent heard of others with problems either.05:17
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intelikeyone or the other    but both has a bad habbit.05:18
shane_It worked fine and then I installed kubuntu and it won't play anything, and my sound card won't work either05:18
[R] eaperi try without UseFBDev, but its the same screen :(05:19
intelikey[R] eaper ok.05:19
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[R] eaperi am about to kill myself :(05:20
Hrontore>..>05:21
Hrontoredont do that05:21
[R] eaperor kill my card05:21
Hrontoredo that05:21
aneeshi I m installing mercury messenger on kubuntu05:21
intelikey[R] eaper idk fellow.  i don't see anything that jumps out at me.05:21
aneescan anyone help me plz05:21
intelikeyyeah maybe your card needs pitched ?05:21
[R] eaper?05:21
intelikeyyou mean you've never pitched a vidio card ?05:22
aneescan anybody help me installing mercury messenge on kubuntu05:22
Dr_willisanees,  never heard of it.. read its install docs yet?05:22
[R] eaperwhat is that?05:22
aneesit is a messenger that supports multiple ids05:22
DrDogwelderanees: I tried installing mercury on ubuntu a couple times and it locked up my computer every time, but that's been a while ago.05:23
Dr_willisanees,  hmm..I thought gaim and kopete did that allready05:23
aneesyes...but I need mercury05:24
aneestry to discover new things05:24
intelikey[R] eaper a bad joke actually.    goes something like this.  young carpenter came on the job with a brand new belt of tools, encluding 32oz corigated head streight claw eswing hammer.05:24
intelikeythis older carpenter asked "has that hammer been pitched ?"05:24
DrDogwelderI hear mercury does the grinnies and animated icons and other annoying things like MSN messenger does.05:24
intelikeyyoung man had no idea what that meant but too proud to say so said "no not yet"05:25
aneeshow can I check Sun JVM installed on my system05:25
intelikeyold man said "you want me to pitch it for you ?"05:25
aneescoz mercury requires Sun JVM installed on the system05:25
intelikey"sure would you?"05:25
[R] eaperi don't know what "pitched" means, because i don't speak english 05:25
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intelikeyso the old man takes the hammer looks it over very carefully and then throws it as far out into the weeds as he could.05:26
aneesanybody help me installing sun JVM plz05:26
intelikey"there, now it's been pitched."05:26
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aneesit is the requirement for mercury messenger05:26
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ForgeAushehe more jokes?05:27
[R] eaperok, now i get it 05:27
intelikeyonly one. ForgeAus05:27
devin_anyone in here installed ut2003 on edgy .. i can't get the installer going =05:27
ForgeAushow about the prisoner and his father...05:27
[R] eaperhow about my damn ati card?? 05:27
Hrontorelol05:27
Hrontoreyo9u should have gone with nvidia05:27
intelikey[R] eaper maybe it needs "pitched" ???05:27
[R] eapermaybe05:27
[R] eaperxD05:27
Hrontoresince ati was baught out by amd it will be a while till ati comes out with a linux support again05:28
intelikey[R] eaper someone can help you.  but not i.  sorry.05:28
DrDogwelderanees: try 'java --version'  That might tell you what version of java you have if you have it.05:28
[R] eapernp05:28
ForgeAusfather sends a letter :- How are you doing son, its time to plough the veggy patch,,, but I'm getting too old.... this year I'm going to have to hire someone to do it...05:28
aneesok DrDogwelder05:28
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devin_ keeping getting mount : /dev/ is not a block device when trying to install ut200305:28
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ForgeAusSon sends back :- Hey dad, no, don't do that, the spud patch is where I hid the murder weapon...05:29
[R] eaperi will have to try mandriva one xD05:29
intelikeyForgeAus you win.   that one's lamer than mine.  :)05:29
aneesDrDogwleder it said java version 1.4.205:30
aneeshow can I update my java version05:30
intelikey!java05:30
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:30
[R] eaperhow can i make this f*cking card to work!!!!05:30
ForgeAuswhat type of card?05:31
[R] eapera damn ati x160005:31
ForgeAusMandriva one isn't likely to work any better or worse than Kubuntu with it05:31
intelikeyi know you are frustrated.  but no call for extra adjtives.05:31
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ForgeAusthey're both linux, and both subject to the same driver issues05:31
ForgeAus(just probably differently packed - ie rpm vs deb)05:32
[R] eaperit seems like Sabayon has better ati support05:32
ForgeAusthen you may wish to look into that, I wouldn't know05:32
[R] eaperor maybe just get back on.....window$ :(05:33
intelikeywell my security is too tight for root to install a printer.   ;/05:33
ForgeAuswhatever the case its not Kubuntu's "fault" that ATI cards have problems with Linux05:33
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ForgeAusReaper in your case it might make more sense to do so :( unfortunately05:33
ForgeAusjust a system configuration issue...05:33
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ForgeAusor you could try writing to ATI and seeing if they have some kind of solution for you?05:34
[R] eapernah05:34
[R] eaperthey don't support linux05:34
Dr_willisATI is now AMD.. :) so lets see what happens in a year05:35
intelikeywhere's jucato ?   he needs a good laugh...05:35
ForgeAushmmm thats interesting, they REQUIRE you to pay for your operating system simply in order to use your video card?05:35
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intelikeyForgeAus many peaces of hardware have played that game.05:36
ForgeAusintelikey, question is do they win or lose?05:36
intelikeyprobably05:36
intelikey(:05:36
[R] eaperOMG!!!05:37
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[R] eaperi think i got the answer to my problem1!!05:37
ForgeAusyou do?05:37
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[R] eaperthe bad thing is that i don't understand :S05:38
intelikeyit kinda depends on what constitutes winning in that arena.05:38
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ForgeAuslol nice nickname posing!05:38
ForgeAuswhat exactly don't you understand?05:38
[R] eaperhttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Troubleshooting , the last part05:38
HrontoreE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:39
HrontoreE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:39
Hrontorewhat does taht mean?05:39
Hrontorei was trying to install java05:39
ForgeAuslowering apeture in the bios is not in linux its when you reset your computer05:39
[R] eaperok05:40
Hrontorecould be that adept manager was updating?05:40
[R] eaperbut i think mine is 6405:40
intelikeysome companies work on the democrat platform.  idiots out number everyone else and don't remember from one election to the next       while some work on the republican platform, this is what we do if you don't like it just look at what our compeditor does...05:40
ForgeAusand press (with some its Delete, with others F2, whatever the case it should tell you on screen unless it has a splash picture, in which case you can probably press Escape to see the text behind it))05:40
ForgeAusbut be careful in the BIOS/CMOS you can do things in there that will render your system unable to start05:41
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[R] eaperi will try it anyway05:41
[R] eapersee ya (i hope xD )05:41
intelikey!adeptcrashfix | Hrontore05:41
ubotuHrontore: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 05:41
Hrontoreno no05:42
Hrontoreadept is still running05:42
intelikeyos where are you getting that error ?05:42
Hrontorein the command line05:42
ForgeAusI don't get why exactly but often a low agp appeture is better than a high one in many cases05:42
Hrontorewhen i try to install java05:42
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SolidSourceanyone else getting "404" warning "server not found" for this repo: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php?05:43
Hrontorei thought as much05:43
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Hrontoreokay now that thats out of the way05:44
intelikeyjust on the outside change you might be blond.   only one package manager can run at a time.05:44
Hrontoreim going to wait for adept to finish05:44
intelikeythat's the reason for the "lock" file.05:44
Hrontore:P05:44
Hrontorethis is the   first linux system i've run05:44
intelikeydon't worry then your hair will darken quickly  :)05:45
Hrontoreremeber kids, black hair dye is not, is not AI05:45
Hrontore!!!05:45
intelikey!ai05:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ai - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:46
nkayhanWhere are my boot logs held?05:46
intelikeydmesg05:46
intelikey/var/log/dmesg  keeps a copy too.05:46
nkayhanoh dang, I need to sort through all that?05:47
intelikeylooking for ?05:47
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nkayhanOh, when I boot, I get a bunch of errors, (on a clean install) and I want to know what they are05:48
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[R] eaperim back05:48
ForgeAuswb Reaper, any difference?05:48
[R] eaperdirect rendering: Yes05:48
[R] eaperXD05:48
[R] eaperdamn, im so happy05:48
ForgeAusawesome!05:49
intelikeymmm then yeah pretty much nkayhan, and also see /var/log/message   that's got good startup error messages sometimes.05:49
[R] eaperit was set on 64mb, so i changed to 12805:49
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[R] eaperbrb, i have to post this05:49
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intelikey[R] eaper YOU PITCHED IT !!!05:49
intelikey :)05:49
[R] eaperhell yeah!!05:49
ForgeAuswidening? interesting!05:51
intelikeyi would kinda like to turn a little more vidio ram over to the kernel console scroll up buffering is limited by the amount of vidio ram that the kernel controls.05:51
ForgeAususually narrowing is what helps! lol... its kewl tho05:51
nkayhanintelikey: Man the file doesn't exist aparently05:51
ForgeAusas for the medibuntu repository I aren't sure its accessible05:51
intelikeynkayhan plural.  messages05:52
intelikeysorry.05:52
[R] eaperok, i have to go, see ya05:53
nkayhanOh, ok, I just went to the log directory and found the boot log, but there doesn't seem to be any errors in that log, wierd05:54
Adydasis everything running?05:54
Adydasany issues?05:54
intelikeyAdydas he said lots of error messages at boot time.  looking into what they might be.05:54
nkayhanI don't suppose anyone want's to read through my dmesg for me? :)05:55
Adydasmy guess would be things like soundcard failed, hence my asking do things work ie has he got sound05:55
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nkayhanyea, thanks for helping though, I'll just read for errors05:55
ForgeAushow do I find the list of packages in the medibuntu repository?05:56
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Dr_willisHmm.. Thats one ive never heard of...05:56
Dr_willisftp to their fileserver?05:56
nkayhanIt's weid though, on a *fresh* basic kubuntu edgy install, I never saw the boot splash05:57
Hrontoreokay heads up new error (and yes adept is finished and close out)05:57
Hrontore Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin05:57
HrontoreE: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin05:57
AdydasHrontore: sounds like you need to open more repos05:57
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Hrontorehow05:57
Adydashave you at any stage been told to deleate some #s from a sources.list file?05:57
Hrontoreno05:58
intelikey!Multiverse05:58
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:58
nkayhanhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories05:58
ForgeAushehe intelikey I know how to add it05:58
ForgeAusI just wondered what packages are under there05:58
Hrontoreokay why would i want to?05:58
intelikeyForgeAus that was for Hrontore05:59
AdydasHrontore:  this is a log and record of how i did it, try and follow this as it should explain and help you out http://adydas.net/linux/repos.html05:59
Hrontorei thought that java5 was included in the os?05:59
Dr_willisNope - its included in the repos05:59
AdydasAlso follow the above multiverse info05:59
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Ertain!splashy05:59
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork05:59
ErtainCan anyone help me with configuring Splashy?06:00
Dr_willisonly confifuring i do with the splash stuff.. is to disable it. :)06:00
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intelikeydito doc06:00
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gansinhohello, could anyone help me on how to edit which apt are started with KDE and which are not... I would like to configurate this freature a bit...06:01
Dr_willisKde has an Autostart dir.06:02
intelikeygansinho kcontrol06:02
Dr_willisyou can add more things there if ya want.. but normally you can just start whatever programs ya want. and save the session,  it may be set to autosave by default.06:02
Dr_willisand the apps 'should' start up automaticially next login06:02
intelikeyi assume that "and which are not"   would mean disabling some thing...06:03
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intelikeyif so kcontrol06:03
nkayhanI like configurating things too :)06:03
Dr_willis!startup06:03
ubotuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup06:03
Dr_willisGnome-bias!06:04
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AdydasGnome session?06:04
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nkayhanDr.willis: this is the kubunutu channel06:04
gansinhointelikey: I'm not familiar wih KDE, where do I configure it on kcontrol?06:04
Dr_willisnkayhan,  tell it to the bot.06:04
intelikeybut it's the ubuntu bot06:04
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Dr_willisit will be interesting to see what happens to gnome when kde4 gets out.06:05
Dr_willisTHei will fight fire with!!!... removeing more features!06:05
Dr_willis:)06:05
intelikeygansinho idk look around.  that's what i would have to do if i started a gui and ran kcontrol  just to answer your question.06:05
aseigogansinho: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/configure.html#id255986606:05
Dr_willistherss  a kde startup tool for twiddling with the Autostart dir..06:05
Dr_willis!find autostart06:05
ubotuFound: kcontrol-autostart06:05
aseigothere is a control panel for this on apps.kde.org but it's so-so.. someone is currently writing one that will ship with 4.006:06
nkayhanDr: ok I will06:06
Dr_willis!info kcontrol-autostart06:06
ubotukcontrol-autostart: autostart module for KDE control center. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 268 kB06:06
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nkayhanYou sir, are a dumb ass !ubotu06:06
intelikey!thanks | nkayhan06:06
ubotunkayhan: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)06:06
gansinhothere is a folder, but I do not know how to use it... aseigo thanks for the url, that will help me for sure =)06:06
jbrOPSS...06:07
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nkayhan!ubotu the ass06:07
ubotuthe: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (edgy), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB06:07
draikWhat is a good P2P app to replace Frostwire06:07
draik?06:07
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nkayhandraik gtkutella06:07
draik!gtkutella06:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtkutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:07
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draiknkayhan: Is it for KDE?06:08
Dr_willisdoes it matter. :)06:08
nkayhanGTK= platform independant06:08
draiknkayhan: OIC. Sorry. I will get it06:08
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nkayhangtkgnutella06:09
intelikey!gtk06:09
ubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI06:09
nkayhanis what it's called though06:09
draikI'm not finding gtkutella06:09
draikoic06:09
nkayhansory it's gtkgnutella06:09
nkayhanno it's not, I forget how to spell it06:10
nkayhanhere gtk-gnutella06:10
nkayhanthat's the package06:11
nkayhandraik, you got it?06:11
draikI found it06:11
draikbut what platform?06:11
draiki386?06:11
draikor Any?06:11
intelikeynkayhan ncurses would be more platform non-depending than gtk or qt  but things that are x based that is will run in X without any qt/gtk libs are not all ncurses based either.06:11
Dr_willisxlib06:12
Dr_willis:)06:12
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Dr_willis!info gtk-gnutella06:12
ubotugtk-gnutella: shares files in a peer to peer network. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1982 kB, installed size 7016 kB06:12
draikHow do I install a tar.gz file?06:12
Adydaswhat are you installing?06:12
draikHmmm06:12
nkayhandraik, you got it?06:12
Dr_willisdraik,  you normally dont.. you compile and install the source IN the file.06:12
Dr_willisgtk-gnutella - is in the repositories.. no need to compile it.06:13
Dr_willisunless you need the latest version I guess.06:13
Dr_willis!p2p06:13
ubotuConventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.06:13
intelikeyin some instances your even mv file.tar.gz /dev/null    ...06:13
nkayhansudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella06:13
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nkayhanrun that in the terminal, then run with gtk-gnutella06:14
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Bearcatok folks. what reoisitory wil give me libxine-extracodecs?06:15
nkayhangot it?  This was very confusing coming from the windows world of the .exe coming from a website, but now, I rarely need to compile stuff my self06:15
intelikey!libxine-extracodecs06:15
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB06:15
nkayhanintelikey:  you smrt06:16
intelikeydctc - Direct Connect Text Client06:16
intelikeydid he cuss me ?06:16
Bearcatintelikey: i have enabled all of the repositores in 6.06 and it is not there.06:16
intelikey!libxine-extracodecs dapper06:16
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB06:17
nkayhanbearcat: you refeshed right?06:17
intelikeyoh jes it are.06:17
Bearcatnkayhan: yes06:17
nkayhanjust checking06:17
intelikeyBearcat pastebin your sources.list06:17
intelikey!paste06:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:18
HrontoreThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:18
Hrontore  sun-java5-bin: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) but it is not goin                                                g to be installed06:18
Hrontore                 Depends: unixodbc but it is not installable06:18
HrontoreE: Broken packages06:18
Bearcatone momment (part of my problem is that i am not usually a k/ubuntu user) I appreciate the help06:18
SolidSourceok, asking same question I asked earlier today: is there an alternative to MediaMonkey or Advanced MP3 Catalog for linux? juk, banshee, amarok, various other purely ID3 taggers don't do what I need06:18
Shak1can someone please test if he gets the same error message?06:19
Shak1:~$ khotkeys06:19
Shak1ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed.06:19
nkayhanbearcat: this site helps a lot http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/06:19
nkayhanshak1: yes, I do06:20
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intelikeyShak1 no.  i get a different problem.  ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting.06:20
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draikgtk-gnutella doesnt seem to work for me06:21
draikfrostwire won't load06:21
infocrashSolidSource see if easyTAG does what you want it to do06:21
Shak1khotkeys seams borked - damn06:21
SolidSourcedraik: install frostwire from deb file off www.frostwire.com...the repository doesn't work06:21
draikI did06:22
draikI installed the Beta06:22
draikI'll do it again06:22
SolidSourceinfocrash: tried and no it doesn't do what I need06:22
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SolidSourcedraik: weird. mine works fine06:22
intelikeydcgui - Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)06:22
intelikeydctc - Direct Connect Text Client06:22
draikwhat could I be missing?06:22
infocrashSolidSource what do you need to do?06:22
draikI have the current Java06:22
SolidSourcedraik: do you have a possible firewall on you comp or router to block it?06:22
draikNope06:23
draikI shouldn't anyway06:23
calcmandanamarok version 1.4.3 on default kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS. Cannot play flac. using xine engine. anyone know how i can get it to work?06:23
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intelikey!amarok06:23
ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok06:23
nkayhandraik: does it launch or not work one it's launched?06:24
SolidSourceinfocrash: need to be able access freedb for tags, and be able to rename entire albums at once, as well as rename the files from their tags (album at once) as I am able to do in Advance MP3 Catalog06:24
draikSolidSource: The thing is that it loads the splash, but then it just opens a white window with the titlebar stating that its frostwire06:24
Hrontorewhat is unixodbc?06:24
draikWHOA!06:25
Hrontoreseem that java needs it to install for some reason06:25
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draikOk06:25
draikso it runs06:25
draikit's all there06:25
SolidSourcelol06:25
draikbut the text and background are all the same color06:25
intelikeyunixodbc-bin - Graphical tools for ODBC management and browsing06:25
draikI don't get it06:25
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Hrontoresometing about broken pagage?06:25
nkayhanGtk-gnutella, or frostwire?06:25
Bearcatintelikey: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7165 <--- my sources list06:25
draikfrostwire06:25
SolidSourceinfocrash: basically I want a program directly identical to AMC for linux...at least feature wise06:25
nkayhanyou can change the theme, maybe that will help06:25
intelikeyHrontore this command can help with such questions and in general package searching.    apt-cache search <what ever>06:26
nkayhandraik: change the theme06:27
draikI am06:27
draikNothing06:27
draikstill stays the same06:27
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nkayhanthat's weird, I think a part of java isn't installed06:27
SolidSourcedraik: are you running beryl or compiz or similar?06:27
SolidSourceyeah could be something in java as well06:28
Hrontoreyeah i get E: broken pagages06:28
draikberyl06:28
nkayhandraik: kill beryl, switch to kwin06:28
SolidSourceberyl might be causing it....06:28
intelikeyBearcat you have no mention of multiverse that i can see.   add the word   multiverse   to the end of each line that has universe in it.06:29
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draikYeah06:29
draikBeryl is killing it06:29
SolidSourceBeryl = desktop suicide right now06:29
nkayhanIsn't there a way to have beryl recognize certain programs and apply kwin to those processes06:30
intelikeyBearcat then save and   sudo apt-get update     or if you use adept close it then reopen and update it.06:30
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Hrontoreso is it suppost to look like this multiverse universe?06:30
intelikey!beryl | nkayhan06:30
ubotunkayhan: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:30
Bearcatintelikey: thank you06:31
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intelikeyHrontore yes or in perverse order.06:31
SolidSourceinfocrash: take it you know of nothing just like everyone else06:31
intelikeyorder is not important.06:32
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Hrontorehumm, cuase mine is just "multiverse"06:32
infocrashSolidSource: are you trying to rename the songs as you are ripping them of the files on the harddrive?06:32
nkayhanitntelikey: yes I am running beryl right now06:32
intelikeynkayhan there is a channel for that.  see the ubotu post ^06:33
SolidSourceinfocrash: no, when I rip a CD or need to correct the tags of music I download06:33
draikSo I can't run beryl and frostwire at the same time?06:33
SolidSourceinfocrash: but I also need a database cause I have a super large collection06:33
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Hrontoremore dl06:34
infocrashSolidSource i'm checking some programs out, i see that on easy tag you can configure the database but i dont see an option to change file names to match the tag06:35
SolidSourceinfocrash: also easytag doesn't allow of entire albums to be adjusted at once06:35
intelikeyHrontore each repository has sections  whether it is the standard repo or the update or the security repo  all have sections   main restricted universe multiverse      (or if one section is missing in security apt don't care)   you can have a sources list with as few as 4 lines and have all the "ubuntu" repositories enabled or have a huge convoluted config with a thousand lines and still be missing something like multivers06:35
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intelikeyheres my sources.list file  note that i don't have restricted anywhere in it.  you would probably want that.06:37
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main universe multiverse06:37
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main universe multiverse06:37
intelikeydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe multiverse06:37
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intelikeythat's the whole file     all three lines.06:37
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Bearcatso, i installed 6.06. i assume that upgrading things with apt won't update it to other versions (like 6.10)?06:38
intelikeyBearcat not as long as the key word in the sources.list is dapper06:39
Bearcatintelikey: so all i have to do is change the keyword in the sources list?06:39
intelikeynote my sources.list above.   all dapper.   if you wanted to upgrade you simply change the key word to edgy  update and dist-upgrade.06:40
Bearcatcool06:40
intelikeyactually the upgrade from dapper to edgy is not quite that smoth for most folks but yeah.06:40
intelikeysmooth06:40
Bearcati'm giving this system to a new linux user. is there a way for her to do this via the gui?06:41
intelikeyyeah it can be done the hard way.06:41
intelikey:)06:41
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SolidSourceBearcat: also remember if any 3rd party programs are installed when you upgrade, you may (will) have problems06:41
Bearcatintelikey: oh...wait.06:42
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intelikeyBearcat for a new user though.  imo the lts might be a good place to stay until they get familear with it.06:42
intelikey!LTS06:42
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.06:42
Bearcatintelikey: is "dapper" a version name or is it more like "stable"?06:42
naught101anyone know how to create flash movies in linux?06:43
intelikeyversion name.   ubuntu dapper drake 6.06-LTS06:43
intelikey!flash06:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:43
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash06:43
infocrashSolidSource http://jampal.sourceforge.net/summary.html06:44
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Bearcatintelikey: so "dapper" is the lts version of the system?  When a new version comes out that is stable (say 8.09) she will have to edit the sources.list file to keep her system updated?06:45
SolidSourceinfocrash: hmm, lets test06:45
bumzogood pple ... i need help06:45
Bearcatsorry i'm being dense, but i don't understand how these versions work.06:46
intelikeyBearcat yes to the first part. no to the second.06:46
infocrashSolidSource i just dont see any mentioned of online song db06:46
Hrontorestupid java06:46
bumzoi have just plugged in a 80 gb usb hard disk and it tels me i cannot write to it06:46
bumzohow do i get it to be ''accessable'' ?06:46
Bearcatintelikey: so she should be able to update via apt indefinately without having to download a cd?06:46
intelikeyHrontore you know that you need to use the cli to install java.   adept has an issue with the eula question.06:47
Gretlbumzo do you own it? or root?06:47
SolidSourceinfocrash: thats one of the more vital things too06:47
bumzogretl...what do u mean?06:47
intelikeyBearcat she would be able to update until 2009 july  without any change.06:48
bumzoam the only iuser on kubuntu bumzo@bumzo06:48
Gretlyou have it on desktop  - click right to edit to your needs06:48
intelikeyBearcat and by then would probably be so tired of it that a new cd would be welcome06:48
intelikeyBearcat also see shipit06:49
intelikey!shipit06:49
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.06:49
intelikey!support06:50
ubotuFor your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support For IRC support, join #ubuntu / #kubuntu / #xubuntu etc06:50
intelikey!offtopic | ubotu06:51
ubotuubotu: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:51
Bearcatintelikey: nice! Thank you06:51
intelikeyBearcat np.  welcome.06:51
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infocrashSolidSource or try http://kid3.sourceforge.net/ or http://entagged.sourceforge.net/06:51
bumzoCould not change permissions for /media/sdb1/System Volume Information/_restore{EA10BEA4-2D2C-494D-9EF3-5EC8A5B65143}/RP52/change.log.2.06:51
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bumzothats wht i get when i try to change the properties06:51
Gretlbumzo: then go to k-menu system settings advanced harddisk06:52
intelikeybumzo it's probably not a real filesystem06:52
bumzoits ntfs06:52
intelikeylike i said,06:52
Gretlintelikey: its just owned by root now06:52
infocrashSolidSource kid3 claims it can get the name from freedb rename the file and rename directories acording to the tag06:53
Gretloh06:53
intelikeyyou can't change permissions that aren't there.06:53
Gretlyap sorry06:53
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intelikey!umask06:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:53
intelikey!dumb bot06:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dumb bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:53
Gretlrofl06:53
Gretlther is a driver to acess ntfd06:54
Gretlntfd06:54
bumzoi can t see ''advanced hard disk'' on system settings06:54
intelikeywell anyway.  set the umask or the uid for the fs06:54
Gretl!ntfs06:54
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:54
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SolidSourceinfocrash: kid3 is missing database/cataloging and can't seem to download entagger06:55
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Gretlbumzo:  from a ntfs file you can only read or you install the ntfs-3g driver06:56
intelikey!being smart06:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about being smart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:57
intelikey                 classic   ^06:57
bumzook ... how do i install that driver? and where do i get it from?06:57
intelikey!ntfs-3g06:57
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)06:57
Gretl!ntfs | bumzo06:57
ubotubumzo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse06:57
Adydasdoes beryl mess with the xorg.conf?06:58
intelikeyidk i don't mess with beryl06:58
intelikey!beryl06:58
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:58
intelikeyask in there ^06:58
Adydasallready to much effort06:58
Hrontoreokay i have another one, can i overwrite the broken sun-java5-bin06:59
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Hrontorewith a dl update?06:59
intelikeybroken sun-java5-bin ?06:59
intelikeysudo dpkg --configure -a07:00
Hrontore?07:00
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Hrontoreis that all i need to type into the konsole>07:01
Hrontore?07:01
intelikeyclose any package manager and run that.07:01
Hrontoreokey07:01
intelikeysudo dpkg --configure -a07:01
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Hrontorenow what07:01
Hrontore?07:01
intelikeydid it error ?07:01
Hrontoreno07:01
intelikeysudo apt-get install -f07:02
SolidSourceinfocrash: got entagger running....still not there...though this is the closest07:02
j_I'm running Kubuntu Edgy and am trying to install the nVidia drivers for my old GeForce3.. What does IA32 mean?07:02
intelikeyif you have any broke packages those two commands are the normal cure.07:02
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Hrontorekool07:03
Hrontorelet met try again then07:03
Hrontoreone sec07:03
infocrashSolidSource how about http://sourceforge.net/projects/scene-tagger/07:03
Hrontorenope didnt wok07:04
Hrontoresame error07:04
intelikeyj_ i dont know.  and i don't very often use google or wikipedia for other people.   maybe you could try there.07:05
intelikeyHrontore ok show me the error ?07:05
bumzogretl ... how do i get the file?07:05
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Hrontorehe following packages have unmet dependencies:07:06
Hrontore  sun-java5-bin: Depends: sun-java5-jre (= 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed07:06
Hrontore                 Depends: unixodbc but it is not installable07:06
j_I've tried, and still am, but I keep crashing kubuntu and I'm getting tired of reinstalling the entire OS07:06
SolidSourceinfocrash: thats a windows...at least the way they say to install it is07:06
j_I'll just keep on trying, whatever works...07:06
SolidSourceinfocrash: windows program*07:06
intelikeyHrontore sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre07:06
intelikeyoh wait.07:07
HrontoreE: broken packages07:07
Hrontore...07:07
Adydasrepos time07:07
Hrontorei thought i did that already07:08
Gretlbumzo: !ntfs-3g07:08
Adydasdid you remove the #s and apt-get update?07:08
intelikeyHrontore sudo apt-get install unixodbc-bin sun-java5-jre sun-java5-bin07:08
infocrashSolidSource last suggestion of the night http://pinkytagger.sourceforge.net/07:08
intelikeytry that one.07:08
Hrontoremore broken packages07:08
SolidSourceinfocrash: tried it07:09
infocrashwow07:09
HrontoreAdydas #s?07:09
Gretl!ntfs-3g07:09
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)07:09
Adydasremove the #s from the start of the deb lines07:09
intelikeyHrontore did i look at your sources.list ?07:09
Adydasusing kdesu kate07:09
Hrontoreno07:09
Hrontorei used adept manager07:09
Adydasah thats why07:09
intelikey!pastebin | Hrontore07:10
ubotuHrontore: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:10
Adydashave a browsey around here Hrontore http://adydas.net/linux/repos.html07:10
Adydasits a guide that will help you enable your repos and enable a wider range of packages to be installed07:10
intelikeyHrontore go to that url  ^  and paste the output of     cat /etc/apt/sources.list07:10
intelikeythen bring me the url it gives you.07:11
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SolidSourceinfocrash: if only MediaMonkey or AMC would just work in WINE...I wouldn07:12
SolidSourceinfocrash: wouldn't have a problem07:13
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Hrontoreomg07:13
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Hrontorethere is nothing in the file07:13
Adydasthats very bad news07:13
intelikeyHrontore typo.07:13
intelikeyHrontore /etc/apt/sources.list07:14
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intelikeycat /etc/apt/sources.list07:14
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Adydasintelikey: he *may* be refering to kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list from the website i gave him07:15
Adydasjust FYI07:15
intelikeyit's still be a typo if the file is blank07:15
jayis there any auto script for changing proxy settings for many apps with one go?07:15
pointfivezerocan anyone help with the autoconf issue I am having (http://rafb.net/p/nnrE6294.html)?07:15
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Hrontoreno such file or directory07:16
pointfivezerocan anyone help with the autoconf issue I am having ( http://rafb.net/p/nnrE6294.html )?07:16
pointfivezero^fixed link^07:17
bulwynklOK, so I'm back with my system settings problem now - much improved systemsettings problem than before, but still a problem...07:17
intelikeypointfivezero if you keep repeting we might be less enclined to help.07:17
Adydasdid you re add python in the end?07:17
intelikeypointfivezero try installing   build-essential07:17
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bulwynklI have an actual error message now - "The module Monitor and Display could not be loaded" blah blah07:18
bulwynklan error occured during your last kde upgrade leaving an or-phaned control module07:18
bulwynklor you have old third party modules lying around.07:19
bulwynklanyone know how I find this stuff out?07:19
bulwynklor should I jsut force KDE to reinstall?07:19
bulwynklif it is a third party module it'll be an ATI module... how would I 1 find it and 2 remove it?07:20
pointfivezerointelikey: build-essential is already the newest version.07:20
intelikeycvs installed ?07:21
pointfivezeroyes07:21
intelikeyautoconf ?07:21
SolidSourceinfocrash: oh well, guess I'll just keep doing it over the network on my laptop....thanks for trying07:21
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pointfivezerointelikey: autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.6007:22
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intelikeypointfivezero any TEXT files in there that might shed some light07:24
Hrontoreokay, here is the paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7166/07:24
Bearcatcool07:24
Bearcateverything is working!07:24
intelikeyis that before or after you fixed it   :)07:25
Bearcatand so i'm off07:25
pointfivezerointelikey: it does not appear to xyz (in this case, kmobiletools)-specific07:25
Hrontoreadios07:25
Bearcatum..after07:25
Hrontore....07:25
Bearcatand i owe it all to you intelikey07:25
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intelikeyHrontore add     main restricted     to line five07:26
Hrontoremain restricted07:26
Hrontoreline five got it07:26
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intelikeyah get outa here Bearcat07:26
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intelikey:)07:26
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intelikeyHrontore i'm refering to the line number in the pastebin not in the file itself.07:27
intelikeyHrontore add    universe multiverse     to line 1007:28
pointfivezerointelikey: it seems like the variable $AUTOCONF was undefined so I did an export $AUTOCONF=autoconf and it got past that step07:28
pointfivezerointelikey: cheers for looking into it anyway07:28
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SolidSourceanyone know of a site similar to this one: http://rpm.pbone.net/  ...but of course DEB07:29
intelikeyHrontore and you don't have a security repo listed if you want one, add this line at the end.                                  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main universe multiverse07:30
Hrontorenow it doesnt matter where i add teh text front or back right?07:30
bumzo!sourcelist07:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sourcelist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:30
intelikeyHrontore ?07:30
Adydasadd it to the end07:30
intelikeyappend to the end of the lines.07:30
bumzohey what command do i key in to view my source list??07:30
Adydasbumzo:07:30
Hrontoreokay one sec07:30
intelikeyjust so you don't mess something up.07:30
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Adydasbumzo: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:31
intelikeycat /etc/apt/sources.list07:31
Adydasjust dont edit it07:31
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pointfivezerointelikey: turns out I needed the autotools-dev package07:31
intelikeyAdydas if you are not going to edit why the sudo07:31
intelikeypointfivezero ok did it go all the way through this time ?07:32
Adydaswell IF he opens it, and realises he wants to change it he can then save07:32
Adydasif he dont sudo it he would be forced to close it and then reopen it wouldnt he?07:32
pointfivezerointelikey: yeap :)07:32
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intelikeypointfivezero good on ya...07:32
intelikeyAdydas not forced to no.  could save in his home and sudo mv it07:33
Hrontoreokay so the text has been added what now?07:33
Adydasmain thing here is he gets to view his apt sources right?07:33
intelikeysave exit07:33
Hrontoregood07:33
intelikeyHrontore   sudo apt-get update07:34
intelikeyAdydas :)  cat /etc/apt/sources.list07:34
intelikeyAdydas   less   if you prefer07:34
Adydasi use less07:34
Adydasi hear dogs better than cat anyway.07:35
Adydas:p07:35
intelikeygenerally on bigger text i sujest less07:35
Adydasim more than happy to admit i dont use the best or safest way to do things07:35
Hrontoregood07:35
Hrontoreits to easy to do it right the first time07:35
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intelikeyHrontore sudo apt-get install -f sun-java5-bin07:36
intelikeyHrontore that should take care of you.07:36
Hrontorehumm07:37
Hrontoreits trying to conect to canonical.com07:38
bulwynklHi Adydas... python got reinstalled as did kde-systemsettings - neither helped.07:38
Hrontoreits stuck on 99%07:38
intelikeygive it a little time.07:38
bulwynklalso did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with mixed results...07:39
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Adydasbulwynkl: Sorry dude, id be as stumpted as you im mearly checking and suggesting things i would if i were you07:40
intelikeyHrontore is it timming out ?07:40
bulwynklfinally looked up the ati proprietry driver - which fixed the problem somewhat but then 1) failed to load the ati controller well and 2) failed to reboot into kdm07:40
Hrontorejava is installing this time, but apt failed to connect to canonical.com07:40
bulwynklanyway, seems to be stable atm with out dual screen (just cloning) and generic ati driver...07:41
intelikeyHrontore the server might have been in a reset at the time.   it's like 5am there07:41
Hrontoreoh07:41
Hrontoreso its not a problem then07:41
intelikeyHrontore not unless it repetes later on.    and if it does   comment out this line in that sources.list    deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main07:42
bulwynklI'm concerned that system settings gives me a posible orphaned module - any idea how to sort that? also, can't find the proprietry ati driver in the adept - where whoule it have ended up??? any hints? :-)07:42
intelikeyHrontore you know how to comment it out....   prepend   #07:42
Hrontorenope07:43
intelikey#this is a comment.07:43
intelikeythis is a command07:43
Hrontoreoh07:43
intelikey#comment07:43
intelikeycommand07:43
intelikeyexample:   echo some text #skip all comments07:44
bulwynklI guess there are really 2 issues here - or maybe 3 - what's got into systems settings - seems to have got somewhat better now - suspect it was the display module causing havock07:44
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Hrontoreokay07:45
Forgehmmm...07:45
bulwynkl2) what optioons do I have with an ati raedon 9550 dual headed display and 3) setting up said display for 2 screen use :-)07:45
Forgewhy isn't my keyboard working properly/07:45
Hrontore i have run into a conf. sun-java5-bin07:45
Forgeshift control alt keys, etc.. aren't working07:45
Hrontorehow do i okay the installation?07:45
Adydasbulwynkl: ill see if i can find what i used to dual output07:45
Adydasmine was to a TV tho but it was about 8 lines of options07:45
Adydasworked perfect first time07:46
intelikeyHrontore type    yes07:46
intelikey?07:46
Forgeahhh fixed it07:46
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Forgesomething to do with vmware I think07:46
bulwynklI have TV out port on that card too - a challenge for another day, me thinks...07:46
Hrontorethere is no text entre07:46
bumzohye whats the difference between ''dapper'' and ''edgy'' and which one am i running ( i use kubuntu)07:47
Hrontoreentry*07:47
Adydasah u can use this if u want07:47
Adydasi found it SO easy07:47
bumzo!dapper07:47
ubotudapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".07:47
Adydas#    Option         "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone"07:47
bulwynklI thought it'd all be easy - the monitor and display module in systemsettings had all the right buttons, just broke at some point07:47
bumzo!edgy07:48
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes07:48
bulwynklI think clone is what I already have working...07:48
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Hrontoreit has <ok> and i want to click it07:48
Hrontorebut it does nothing07:49
intelikeyHrontore i'm sorry i can't spare the time or bandwidth to install a 30m dl over dialup just to look at what you are seeing.07:49
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intelikeyHrontore try the arrow keys07:49
intelikeytab key07:49
Hrontorearrow worked07:49
Hrontore:P07:49
intelikeyif it highlights it enter07:49
Hrontorewhew, now that im past that07:49
intelikeyHrontore you can go back to pure gui Krap now   lol07:50
Hrontorelol07:50
Hrontoreim getting my feet wet07:50
bulwynklI'm going to have a fiddle with the various ati drivers - there seem to be a few to choose from - and see where that gets me07:50
bumzohey is kubuntu dapper or edgy??07:50
Hrontorethere i think it successfully worked07:50
bulwynklthanks for the assist so far...07:50
nixternalbulwynkl: Dapper, Edgy and now Feisty :)07:51
intelikey!java | Hrontore07:51
ubotuHrontore: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.07:51
nixternalbumzo: ^^ depends on the version you dl07:51
nixternalsorry bulwynkl for that highlight and this one too ;p07:51
intelikeyyou should have a read there ^   just to make sure that there is not a config step you have yet to do07:51
intelikeyHrontore ^07:51
bumzodl? ... i have a blue kubuntu cd :S07:52
Hrontore?07:52
nixternalbumzo: what does it say on it?07:52
nixternal6.06 or 6.10?07:52
intelikeyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  <<< Hrontore07:52
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Hrontoreokay,07:52
intelikeyjust to make sure there is not some   'update-alternatives' command that it says you need to do.07:52
intelikeyor anything like that.07:53
bumzokubuntu version / 6.06 LTS07:53
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nixternalbumzo: that is Dapper07:53
Hrontorethnx07:53
intelikeywhen you play with propritary stuff you sometimes have to do odd things.07:53
intelikeyHrontore np.  welcome.07:53
nixternalthe latest stable release is 6.10 known as Edgy07:54
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nixternaland right now we are about 2 months away from the 7.04 release called Feisty07:54
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bumzonixternal ... do u know how to mount ntfs drives ???07:54
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nixternalbumzo: can't say that I do, I haven't had access to an NTFS drive in many years07:54
nixternal!ntfs07:54
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:54
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nixternal^^ bumzo07:54
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intelikey!ntfs > bumzo07:54
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intelikey!ntfs-3g > bumzo07:55
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flaccidhow to disable usplash entirely?07:59
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bowenithello does anyone have a sugjestion to08:01
bowenitfor kubuntu 6.10 and a netgear wireless setup?08:02
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jbrask dr willis08:02
flaccidbowenit: suggestion for what?08:03
intelikeyflaccid kernel line   nosplash08:03
bowenitI can't get my netgear wireless to work under Kubuntu 6.10 X6408:03
flaccidintelikey: i thought it was menu.lst08:04
bowenitI have a WG111 V2 connecting to a (hold on while i get the router info)08:04
bowenitwgt 624 V308:04
flaccidis there a problem, bowenit08:05
intelikeyflaccid you can build an initrd that doesn't contain an image....     but simple switch off, yes in the menu.lst on the kernel line add   nosplash   or actually change splash to nosplash08:05
bowenitright now I'm working under Windows XP and it connects fine.08:05
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AdydasCan you connect via that other OS] 08:05
Adydasas its going to be dam hard to get help without it08:05
bowenitI cnx with windows xp, but can't with Kubuntu08:05
flaccidintelikey: yep ok sweet. by memory can you remember what to press to get to edit that via grub on boot. my mate can't even get a tty08:05
bowenitIt "Sees" my wg111 v2 and that is all08:06
flaccid!wireless08:06
Adydasi think the first thing you need to do is get connected and online with kubuntu08:06
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:06
bowenitgoing there.08:06
Adydasor its going to be a dam hard process to get info in windows, reboot into ubunutu try it fail come back for more info08:06
flaccidok08:06
flaccideasy to find out why its not working08:06
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intelikeyflaccid [esc]   select the boot option line  [E]    select the kerenl line [E]    edit it hit   [enter]  boot [enter] 08:07
bowenitI mean I know all my routers info and printed it.  I know my card's stuff and printed it.08:07
flaccidyour a legend intelikey thanks!08:08
bowenitThe only thing left for me to think of is that perhaps MTU matters (Currently set at 1500)08:08
intelikeydenada08:08
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bowenitdoes the MTU matter?08:09
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j_Hi guys, another quick question, I've searched everywhere and don't know how to stop the X server08:12
j_I need to install an nvidia driver08:12
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j_I can try to crash it I suppose.. =)08:13
Phoenix1701j_: If you don't mind killing it rather forcefully, you can type Ctrl+Alt+Backspace08:13
intelikeyj_ sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop08:13
Phoenix1701But intelikey's solution seems kinder :)08:13
j_That just restarts it, doesn't it?08:13
intelikeyCtrl+Alt+Backspace it will just reload08:13
Phoenix1701Ah, okay.08:13
j_Thanks guys!08:13
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Phoenix1701I have a somewhat more annoying question,08:13
deathnotehow do u convert audio cd into mp3 in kubuntu?08:14
Phoenix1701Does anyone know if it's possible to get dbus 0.70 or higher in dapper?08:14
Phoenix1701And if so, from where?08:14
intelikeydeathnote mp3....    no  .ogg08:14
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deathnote.ogg?08:14
intelikey!mp308:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:14
intelikey          - But please use free formats if you can:08:14
intelikey          https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:14
deathnotehuh?08:15
Phoenix1701deathnote: Ogg is one of those free formats.08:15
deathnote.mp3 is not free?08:15
Phoenix1701Not in the sense we mean when we say free here.08:15
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Phoenix1701The technology for encoding and decoding it is not freely available with source code; it's proprietary and has to be licensed.08:16
Phoenix1701So while it might not cost you any money to play MP3s, the person who wrote your MP3 player almost certainly had to pay a large sum of money to someone for the privilege of being able to do so -- correct me if I'm wrong about that.08:16
deathnoteso if i use ogg, my audio files will become .ogg? how do i put in my mp3 player then?08:16
intelikeyPhoenix1701 without compiling  Version: 0.60-6ubuntu808:16
Phoenix1701Which MP3 player do you use?08:16
deathnotesome flash type brand..08:17
intelikeyPhoenix1701 you could compile  but with a debian based distro that's kinda...08:17
Phoenix1701intelikey: Yeah, that's what I've been finding...  apparently Edgy uses 0.7, but not Dapper.  Can I compile it from source from dpkg without having to hunt its source down on the Internet?08:17
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Phoenix1701Yeah...  always a gamble.  This is actually because I'm trying to compile Scribes from source, and it depends upon dbus-python 0.70 or higher.08:18
Phoenix1701deathnote: So, you're not going to be playing these on a Linux computer then, but rather a portable MP3 player?08:18
intelikeyPhoenix1701 no you'll need to run the source down.   but you can get it from the edgy or feisty repo.08:18
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intelikeyPhoenix1701 let me get you a link.08:18
deathnoteyeah.. if so i am going to share with my friends so they can play in their windows system... the point is.. can i convert my audio cd into mp3?08:19
Phoenix1701intelikey: Oh?  I figured if I installed it from an edgy repository it would either break things or upgrade my system to edgy for me.  lol.08:19
deathnoteinstead of ogg08:19
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Phoenix1701deathnote: I'm fairly certain the answer is yes.  Did you already install MP3 support for Kubuntu?08:19
deathnotelibxine-extracodec to play mp3....08:19
Phoenix1701deathnote: then check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/music.html#audio-cds08:20
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Phoenix1701Specifically, "You can also extract CD audio files to the proprietary non-free MP3 format. Instructions on how to rip to the MP3 format are in the help for Sound Juicer. Choose Help->Contents and navigate to the Preferences section."08:20
intelikeyPhoenix1701 i mean get the source from there.  the source.deb08:21
Phoenix1701Ah, okay.  And then install it using dpkg...?  Sorry, my knowledge of installing source packages is restricted to fink on OS X.08:22
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aneeshi Adydas08:23
aneesneed some help from you08:23
aneesi've downloaded a java-1.5.0-sun-compat-1.5.0.09-1jpp.noarch.rpm on my system08:23
aneeshow can I install it on kubuntu08:24
Adydasyou dont use RPM :p08:24
dmbkiwiwhy not install the deb provided by ubuntu?08:24
Adydasrpm is for redhat based linux, deb is for debian based aka ubuntu08:24
aneesok08:24
aneesso what should I download08:25
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aneesactually I want to install apache tomcat08:25
aneesand it needs jdk08:25
Adydashave you tryed apt-get?08:25
aneesno08:25
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aneeswhat is the command08:25
dmbkiwianees: don't download anything.  open adept_manager and install tomcat.  it'll handle the dependencies08:25
aneesdmbkiwi dear I need to install the latest version of tomcat08:26
Adydasapt-cache search apache tomcat08:26
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Adydasi personally am not sure what package you need but i think tomcat5 would be it08:26
Adydasso sudo apt-get install tomcat508:26
aneesour application needs jdk 1.508:26
aneesand apache latest version08:26
Phoenix1701intelikey: Any luck finding that .deb, by the way, or should I go hunting more?08:26
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aneesok...i m installing tomcat508:28
Adydasas i said im guessing thats the package but im pritty confident it should work08:28
aneesbut how to install jdk1.508:28
intelikeyphoenix1701  all i seem to find is the regular .deb...    http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dbus/dbus-1_0.23.4-0ubuntu4_i386.deb08:29
deathnoteand so i downloaded sound juicer08:29
deathnoteou can also extract CD audio files to the proprietary non-free MP3 format. Instructions on how to rip to the MP3 format are in the help for Sound Juicer. Choose Help->Contents and navigate to the Preferences section.08:29
intelikeyi know the source .deb is there some place.08:29
Adydasanees: jdk as in either of these?08:29
Adydaslibcommons-lang-java - Extension of the java.lang package08:29
Adydaslibcommons-launcher-java - cross platform java application launcher08:29
dmbkiwianees: do you have the universe and multivers repositories enabled?08:29
aneesnot know08:29
Adydaswicked a fellow nz person :P08:29
aneeshow to check it08:29
deathnoteand i click Help -->content it says cannot display help for sound jucier08:29
Phoenix1701I see...  so if I were to try to install that deb, my computer would likely explode, right? ;)08:29
aneesactually i m a newby08:29
Adydasoh, add multiverse to the end of your repos08:29
deathnoteerror launching the default action command associated to this location?08:30
dmbkiwianees: open /etc/apt/sources.list08:30
Adydasdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse <--- like this08:30
dmbkiwianees: you will find some lines with a single '#'.  Delete those08:30
Phoenix1701deathnote: hm.  Not sure what to tell you about that one...  is the documentation perhaps a different package...?08:30
Adydasthat is found in your apt sources08:30
dmbkiwianees: then run:  sudo aptitude update08:30
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Adydasanees: id reccomend checking out http://adydas.net/linux/repos.html its what worked for me, it should help shed some light08:31
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dmbkiwianees: then run: aptitude install sun-java5-jdk08:31
dmbkiwianees: gotta go08:31
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intelikeyphoenix1701  have a look at that and see if thats it.   http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dbus/dbus_1.0.2.orig.tar.gz08:31
explosiveshi , i m a newbie on linux- why all the music players dont play mp3 files ?08:31
Adydascodecs08:31
Adydasyou need to install the mp3 codecs08:31
explosiveshow can i find them ?08:31
explosivesfor ubuntu 6.0608:32
Adydashere is a link of some docs i made that i used to get mp3s playing on edgy kubuntu http://adydas.net/linux/mp3.html08:32
explosivesthnx i will check it08:32
Adydasi hope it gets you what you want08:32
Phoenix1701intelikey: Okay.  Worth a shot anyway...  one thing I'm curious about though; if I go ahead and install this from source, I'm going to have two versions of dbus installed in two different places...  or worse, the new version will overwrite the old version and Adept will have hysterics next time I open it.08:33
Phoenix1701Is this going to pose a big problem, do you think?08:33
aneesok dear I m installing it08:34
Phoenix1701intelikey: Yep, that's the source all right.08:34
intelikeyPhoenix1701 i'm not sure if it can/will install along side or not.  probably safer to make a deb package out of it and install through dpkg.      step one.  install  build-essential    step two   read up at...08:34
intelikey!source08:34
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html08:34
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intelikeythat page   ^08:34
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Phoenix1701Okay.  build-essential is installed already08:35
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explosiveslibxine-extracodecs this file is missing Adydas!!!!08:35
intelikeyerr08:35
intelikey!compile08:35
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)08:35
explosivesE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate08:35
intelikeythat link Phoenix1701 ^08:36
aneesdmbkiwi r u there08:36
explosivesi m a new linux user will u help me ?08:36
Adydasexplosives: you need to enable all your repos08:36
explosivesk08:36
intelikey!repositories > explosives08:36
Adydastry here http://adydas.net/linux/repos.html08:36
Adydasits how i did it08:37
aneesi've open sources.list08:37
aneeswhich line should un comment08:37
Adydasyou see my egs08:37
Adydassome lines with deb have a # infront of it?08:37
Adydassome done?08:37
crube_What the heck is "Super"-button? It says in Beryl that I need to press <Alt><Super>Button1 :D Is there a SUPER letter on my keyboard and does it have any super powers?08:37
Adydasthe lines with a # in the front  are commented out ie ignored08:38
Adydasyou need to uncomment them so there read by apt and used08:38
Adydascrube_: my guess is the windows key08:38
pirothezerosuper enough to make your desktop suicide ;P] 08:38
Adydasnaturally been linux it cant call it a windows key :p08:38
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Adydasthats totally a guess tho08:38
aneesok08:38
Adydasanees: id also poiunt you to check out http://adydas.net/linux/repos.html08:39
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aneesi've un comment all deb lines08:39
Adydasit has an eg of mine before and after, play spot the difference between the 2 grey boxes08:39
Adydasok then follow the rest of the howto08:39
Adydasstart here.08:39
AdydasOnce you have saved this file, you will need to run the next command.sudo apt-get update08:39
intelikeyanees on the first deb line   it has   main restricted     add to it   universe multiverse08:40
aneesok08:40
DjDarkman_hy ,can someone tell me how to diagnose why doesn`t a network interface want to comunicate?08:40
Adydasi need to update and include that info08:40
Adydasintelikey: how would you explain multiverse08:40
crube_Adydas: That was my guess aswell, but it didn't work08:40
Adydaswhat about it allows it to work, without it it wont?08:40
aneesintelikey there are two lines main restricted08:41
Phoenix1701intelikey: Could you remind me why I'm not just downloading one of the pre-build .deb packages from that directory, say, dbus_1.0.2-1ubuntu2_i386.deb?08:41
aneeswhich shuld be changed08:41
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intelikeyAdydas ?    multiverse is one of the four major catagories of reposed software.  the other three are   man  restricted  and  universe   read all about that on the wiki08:42
intelikey!repos08:42
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:42
explosivesi did it :) thnx a lot08:42
gugu^When I`m starting kubuntu in GUI my keyboard is not working08:42
Adydasexplosives: it work?08:42
gugu^When I`m starting kubuntu in GUI my keyboard is not working please HELP08:42
explosivesyes08:42
intelikeyanees one say deb the other deb-src08:42
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Phoenix1701If I were to just download dbus_1.0.2-1ubuntu2_i386.deb and run dpkg -i on it, would that be bad for some reason?08:43
intelikeyanees the deb one.08:43
aneeshere are some lines with deb08:43
aneesi uncomment all the deb lines08:43
intelikeyPhoenix1701 yes.    (but it might actually work)08:43
Phoenix1701hehe.  So if it works, great, and if not, it presumably won't screw anything up too badly as it tries?08:44
intelikeyPhoenix1701 you can try it.  be advised that if it breaks things  you will probably be fixing it from a liveCD or in a console.08:44
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intelikeybut hey if you aint scared. i aint scared.08:45
Kite_DHis there somebody that could help me?08:45
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intelikeyKite_DH no.08:45
Kite_DH..08:45
AdydasKite_DH: just ask :p08:45
intelikeywe don't know what you need.08:45
Phoenix1701intelikey: Well, is it really any more likely that a .deb that I cobble together from the .orig.tar.gz and the .dsc files will work?08:45
gugu^When I`m starting kubuntu in GUI my keyboard is not working please HELP08:45
Kite_DHwhat would happen if i would install GNOME on my kubuntu 6.10?08:45
Lynouregugu^: not working at all or not working right?08:45
gugu^Lynoure: not working at all08:46
Adydasanees: can i ask how you found that website? so i can tweak it?08:46
intelikeyPhoenix1701 probably not  but be advised that i cant advise you to try that.  it "might" leave you in the dark.     (but i would probably try it.)08:46
gugu^Lynoure: it just block`s08:46
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Lynouregugu^: block's? Do you mean you get blocks on your screen?08:47
=== Phoenix1701 nods. Well, I think given that I'm going to try to assemble my own source deb using the instructions you gave me, now that I've downloaded the three files I need... because if I DO hose my system, I'm not at all confident I'd be able to get it back up and running again.
krautmoin08:47
aneesi found site on google08:47
aneeshow to find the jdk version08:48
intelikeyPhoenix1701 if you do use    sudo dpkg -i filename.deb   and it breaks things, you'll probably need to   sudo dpkg -P dbus ;sudo apt-get install dbus      to fix it.08:48
Phoenix1701Ahh, to reinstall the one that's in the Breezy repository, I see.08:48
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Phoenix1701Well, my dpkg-buildpackage command is failing for mysterious reasons...  dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format: No such file or directory08:49
intelikeyhey i didn't tell you to do that.  just theorized on how one might if they were brave...08:49
gugu^Lynoure: I mean my keyboard is blocking08:49
Phoenix1701intelikey: So noted. :)08:49
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explosivesand how can i configure my 5+1 surround system ?08:51
intelikey!sound08:51
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP308:51
explosivesthnx08:52
aneesadydas dear I've installed tomcat508:52
aneesnow how to configure it out08:52
aneesi've installed it via sudo apt-get install tomcat508:52
intelikeynot sure there is actually any pertanant information there explosives08:52
Phoenix1701Aha!  Okay, so the source package is trying to build itself, but it has unmet dependencies...  hmm.08:52
intelikeyeeeeek was afraid of that.08:53
Phoenix1701Yeah, and they're all higher versions than the versions in the dapper repository. :/08:53
Phoenix1701It wants cdbs 0.4.43, and all I can give it is 0.4.34.08:53
intelikeyPhoenix1701 going to sourceforge.net or where ever the code is stored and building from that might well be the ideal way.08:53
Lynouregugu^: I think I'll leave this for someone else, as I'll have to go to work soon.08:53
Phoenix1701You mean the code for dbus?08:54
intelikeyyeah08:54
intelikeysource code08:54
intelikeytar.gz08:54
gugu^Lynoure: ok, np, if I can`t do it , i`ll reinstall kubuntu :))08:54
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Phoenix1701Mm.  True...  unfortunately in my experience they make you go on a wild goose chase for their dependencies most of the time too...  and then I'd just be back where I started, except with five things to go get instead of just one.08:54
Adydasanees: awsum it worked08:54
intelikeyyou know   the old   ./configure && make && sudo make install08:54
Adydashow did you find the website08:54
Lynouregugu^: there might be someone here able to help you so do not give up hope yet08:55
intelikeyPhoenix1701 don't count on that being "just one"08:55
gugu^Lynoure: ok, thx08:55
intelikeywhat all is cdbs 0.4.43   going to have to have....08:55
aneesyes it worked08:55
Adydaskool08:56
aneesso how to configure tomcat08:56
intelikeyand the things they need will need what ?08:56
Adydas!tomcat08:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:56
Kite_DHwhat would happen if i would install GNOME on my kubuntu 6.10?08:56
Adydasthat i dont know  annen08:56
Phoenix1701Well, the "just one" was dbus.  The five would be cdbs, debhelper, doxygen (which I should install anyway because it's awesome *installs*), xmlto, and libselinux1-dev.08:56
intelikeyKite_DH you'd have gnome installed.08:56
Kite_DHintelikey: i mean..can i use KDE and GNOME at the same time?08:57
Phoenix1701Kite_DH: You'd have Kubuntu 6.10 with GNOME.  Nothing more sinister than that.08:57
Phoenix1701Yup.  You choose which session type you want at the login screen.08:57
Kite_DHwow thats cool08:57
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Kite_DHbut i stay with KDE08:57
Kite_DHhehe08:57
Kite_DHthx08:57
Phoenix1701np :)08:57
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Phoenix1701intelikey: You know, it's funny how I can be longing for package managers and curse their name at the same time.  :P08:58
intelikeyi have had kde gnome xfce4 fluxbox blackbox twm icewm icewm95 all installed at one time....08:58
intelikeyPhoenix1701 yep08:58
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic08:58
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:59
Admiral_Chicagohello everyone :)08:59
Phoenix1701I think it would be less work to just go and install Edgy at this rate.  There's an Edgy package for Scribes (which is the thing I wanted to install at the beginning of all this).  Is it now stable enough for day to day use?08:59
intelikeyi hear how great apt it.   and it is.  but i've had more trubble out of apt than i ever did urpmi08:59
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intelikeyPhoenix1701 now you are thinking in *buntu terms.09:00
Phoenix1701hehe.  Well, I don't remember Edgy ever really having been "released", per se, it just kind of started existing and people began talking about the next one.09:00
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intelikeyactually are you sure you don't want to go for the developing (very buggy) feisty   ?09:00
Phoenix1701So I'm not sure where on the scale of 1 to horrible it falls right now.09:00
InuDuelist'Sup, guys. Been a while.09:01
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Phoenix1701lol.  No, no, probably not...  I don't actually attempt to use this machine for anything useful very often, but I find I get depressed if I can't get X to launch.  ;)09:01
intelikeyPhoenix1701 hmmmm    depresses me to have to start a gui.....09:01
InuDuelistI got a problem that just started recently.09:02
pirothezeroanyone here using blockhosts for sshd attacks?09:02
Phoenix1701hehe.  I confess, I like my GUIs.  I'm a Mac guy by nature.09:02
InuDuelistFor some reason, after a while, my sound stops working and I have to end my session (or reboot.) to get it to work again.09:02
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intelikey!sound | InuDuelist09:02
ubotuInuDuelist: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:02
intelikeypirothezero no i just don't run sshd unless i'm going to need it.  if it's not running they can't attack it.09:04
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Phoenix1701I wish I knew in advance every time I wanted to SSH into my machine...09:05
intelikeypirothezero i could run it full time   this is a nosuid system and root ssh is forbiden   so there is very little anyone could do if i gave them my password.09:05
Phoenix1701But yeah, is Edgy Ready For Prime Time(tm) yet, or should I stick with Dapper despite not being able to install all sorts of shiny things?09:05
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intelikeyPhoenix1701 no.09:06
intelikeyPhoenix1701 but it's as ready as it will ever be09:06
Adydasi think edgys fine09:06
pirothezerohmmm ic09:06
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intelikeyPhoenix1701 most (the majority) get along with it just fine.     some can't install it at all some are not at all satisfied with it....  you get the idea09:07
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Phoenix1701intelikey: I think you just described most software in existence. ;)09:07
intelikeyyeah09:08
intelikey:)09:08
intelikeywhat can i say....   i'm a debian kind of guy, who just happens to use *buntu09:09
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intelikeyi liked mandrake ok.  then they changed the name and messed it up....09:10
intelikey:)09:10
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intelikeyslackware is good,09:10
intelikeysort of.09:10
Adydasdebains the best IMO, i tryed fedora etc but just wasnt it09:10
Phoenix1701hehe.  I'm coming from almost the opposite direction.  I installed Kubuntu because I thought it was neat, and I liked that I could actually get it to install without a hitch.09:10
Phoenix1701I tried to install Gentoo once...  it set up my fstab, then asked me what slices I wanted to be able to boot from a command-line interface from which I couldn't get into a subshell to look at the fstab it'd created to figure out which slices corresponded to what partitions.09:11
Adydaswhat a mess09:12
Phoenix1701Predictably enough, my computer wouldn't boot at all after that, because my guesses were apparently wrong.  So I nuked Gentoo in retaliation. :)09:12
Adydasi allways considerd the isntallation process of linux to be a test09:12
InuDuelistHmm.09:12
Adydasif u cant follow readmes to get it isntalled you dont want to be trying to use it09:12
Phoenix1701So Kubuntu was something of a vindication of Linux for me...  but I still like my GUI.09:12
InuDuelistI have to reboot now. :/09:12
InuDuelistDamn sound system problems.09:12
InuDuelistEvery five hours, I swear it stops working.09:12
fignewInuDuelist: I feel ja!09:12
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fignewya* (head in german mode)09:13
InuDuelistThe sad part is is that it happens on Windows now, too. O_O09:13
Phoenix1701Adydas: Fair enough, but I think you'll agree that being able to figure out what partitions on a given disk ought to be bootable given an arbitrary naming convention you know nothing about is a bit more than following the readme :)09:13
Adydasoh no09:13
intelikeyInuDuelist sounds like a memory leak   or runaway process09:13
Adydaswhat your sayings far to hardout09:13
Adydasthats to much test09:13
InuDuelistintelikey: What do you recommend?09:13
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fignewInuDuelist: a non-broken sound card?09:14
Phoenix1701Hm...  it's Pi o-clock.  Bedtime for me.09:14
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Phoenix1701Thanks for the considerable help, all, especially intelikey...  I've learned a great deal from my failure. :)09:14
InuDuelistBesides reboot?09:14
intelikey<InuDuelist> The sad part is is that it happens on Windows now, <<<<    ah... check the ram.09:14
deathnoteso what do i need to convert audio into mp3 format for sound juicer???09:14
fignewor, plugging the speaker into the right port :)09:14
InuDuelistBut I personally don't enjoy rebooting every five hours.09:14
intelikeymemtest8609:14
InuDuelistintelikey: I've got 1GB of RAM.09:14
Adydasis that all09:15
fignewram, I doubt that's the problem09:15
Phoenix1701deathnote: There's almost certainly an option under Settings > Configure Sound Juicer09:15
Admiral_Chicagoif you want. reboot and run a memtest...that will let you know if it's a RAM problem09:15
InuDuelistWell, I'm going to reboot.09:15
Phoenix1701I don't have that installed myself, so I can't tell you for sure, but that'd be my guess if it's a KDE app.  If not, there's probably a Preferences or Options or Configure somewhere, and it's definitely in there.09:15
Phoenix1701Anyway, night all!09:15
intelikeyfignew sound works for a predictable amount of time on two unrelated os's    it's hardware.09:15
intelikeyram is always suspect.09:16
InuDuelistShould I do anything before I reboot?09:16
InuDuelistTo see if it fixes the problem?09:16
fignewso it works, then stops working?09:16
InuDuelistI can't even open Amarok right now.09:16
InuDuelistPretty much.09:16
Adydascan u change it to test>09:16
InuDuelistBut this hasn't been going on for a long time. Just about a month.09:16
Adydas?09:16
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intelikeysounds to me like a heat build up on a loose connection.09:17
fignewstrange, I have a network card that'll crash if I saturate the link, will only start working again if I turn off & unplug computer09:17
InuDuelistAnd whazzat mean, intelikey?09:17
fignewintelikey: now that's what it could be09:17
fignewInuDuelist: does your computer run hot?09:18
deathnotei can't select output as a mp309:18
deathnotecan only ogg , flac and wav09:18
InuDuelistNah, it's pretty average heat.09:18
fignewdeathnote: have you installed lame?09:18
deathnoteand the damn Help isn't working09:18
deathnoteno09:18
fignewyou'll need that :)09:18
fignew!lame09:19
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB09:19
intelikeyram is suspect. card interfaces.     also possable capacitor burning out.  but less likely   because caps go with load. then heaver you load them the faster they heat up09:19
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InuDuelistSo intelikey, what do I do before I reboot?09:19
fignewmp3 is patented, so it can't be included w/ ubuntu09:20
fignewby default09:20
fignewsound juicer is a gnome app, right?09:20
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intelikeynothing.   power down.   pull the cover off the box and check all connections.   remove ram sticks and reinsert them.   making sure they are fully seeted.     power on.  see if anything changed.09:21
deathnotei don't care? i just want my audio to be mp3..what's so difficult..why must i understand patented etc??!09:21
deathnoteargh09:21
deathnotedamnit09:21
Adydasu want to play mp3s or somthign more?09:22
InuDuelistAlright.09:22
InuDuelistI'll be back in about 15 minutes.09:22
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intelikeyhere is a believe it or not for you.   i saw one box giving random errors, sometimes wouldn't even post.  started trubble shooting and finnally found it on a modem card connection in the expansion slot.   one dirty contact that would sometimes arc that arc would send current spikes on the pci buss causing trubble to show up in the oddest places.09:25
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InuDuelist...09:25
InuDuelistThat's awkward.09:25
InuDuelistAnd yet, strangly believable.09:25
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InuDuelistI'll wipe stuff.09:26
InuDuelistSee you guys in about 15-20 minutes.09:26
intelikeyok09:26
BrettVDoes anyone know anything about process scheduling?09:26
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intelikeycron ?09:26
intelikeyat ?09:26
intelikeynice ?09:26
BrettVintelikey: you asking me those questions?09:27
intelikeyyeah what are you asking about specifically ?09:27
BrettVintelikey: i need to calculate the bonus and penalty09:27
BrettVintelikey: and i do not understand what the variables are exactly.09:27
BrettVintelikey: i09:28
BrettVBonus = (int) floor (min (IO / 500.0, 1.0) * 5.0)09:28
BrettVnote :  Here, IO means total IO burst spend by the process since the last time slice calculation.09:28
intelikeyah nice values.  i don't really know much about that.09:28
BrettVi really need to know what the IO variable is09:28
pirothezerofirst ive heard of it lol09:29
intelikeyi can tell you a guy that can help you there though.  if he will.   go in ##linux and see if quiznos is there.09:29
BrettVanyone know anything about this? I need to figure it out before 7pm tommorow09:29
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Admiral_Chicagoas a general question, why are you turning that into an int? will that be rounded or truncated. however I fail to see how this is #kubuntu tomorrow09:29
yettenet_Is there a way to disable progress dialog?09:29
Admiral_Chicagoerr. #kubuntu09:29
BrettVthanks intelikey09:29
intelikeynp09:30
Admiral_Chicagoyettenet_: progress dialogue?09:30
yettenet_Yup :)09:30
yettenet_Sort of :)09:30
intelikeydont' use my name,  he may not like me.09:30
Admiral_Chicagoin what program...09:30
BrettVAdmiral_Chicago: i have no idea and also do not care... this is the formula they gave me and it is what i will use09:30
intelikeythat wouldn't help you any.09:30
BrettVintelikey: hehe09:30
yettenet_The name of the window is Progress Dialog - KDE09:30
yettenet_:)09:30
yettenet_Dunno which program it is09:30
Admiral_Chicagoyettenet_: what is the program doing.09:30
yettenet_Showing all the internet transfer progresses09:31
Admiral_Chicagoin Konqueror?09:31
yettenet_Well, when I click on a link which opens in Konqueror, yes, but it shows Kopete's as well09:31
Admiral_Chicagoboth applications which I do not use. sorry09:32
intelikeytried just killing it ?09:32
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yettenet_intelikey: Nope :) I want to disable it permanently, not at every startup09:33
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Jazonhello everyone09:33
intelikeyyettenet_ search in  kcontrol09:33
Admiral_Chicagohello09:33
intelikeythat's where all theings K are set.09:33
Jazoni am downloading everything for the move to feisty on my laptop.  any reccomendations?09:33
Jazoni am moving from edgy09:34
intelikeyheh  dont'09:34
intelikeydon't  that is.09:34
Jazonintelikey: reasons?09:34
Jazoni can still stop it....09:34
intelikeyit's not released yet ?09:34
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Jazoni have about 20minutes left of downloads...09:34
Jazonwell, i know that :P09:34
intelikeyalpha/beta   but if you like bugs help them kill all you can.09:35
Admiral_ChicagoJazon: #ubuntu+1 ... I have had no issues on my install09:35
fdovingJazon: if you have a bcm43xx based card, i recommend to get an older 2.6.20-5-generic kernel instead of the current one.09:35
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Jazonhehe09:35
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Jazonmy wifi card should be well supported.09:35
Admiral_ChicagoJazon: Feisty is pretty stable09:36
crazyrobotanybody ever get only half a screen in a shell using F1-F6?09:36
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Jazonintel i915 vid card09:36
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Adydasis edgy not stable?09:36
Jazonedgy is not too bad.  i dont like how the acpi works on it09:36
intelikeycrazyrobot yep.  frame buffering in the console and frame buffering in the gui conflicting on the size of the screen09:36
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Jazonmy laptop fan is going to wear out09:37
yettenet_No success, intelikey09:37
crazyrobotok, thanks.09:37
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intelikeyyettenet_ i don't recognize the nick ?09:37
yettenet_The progress dialog thingy )09:38
crazyroboti upgraded to feisty for a second, but AmoroK has problems with mtp in that version.09:38
intelikeyoh.09:38
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flaccidjoy09:38
Jazonis it possible to downgrade back to edgy btw?09:38
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flaccidits possible, but manual09:38
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Jazonflaccid: manual, like how?09:38
Jazonlike editing sources.list and apt-get  ?09:39
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Admiral_Chicagothere is a downgrade option for apt-get09:39
flaccidas in removing/force removing packages and instaling the old ones09:39
flaccidyeah i don't think that works very well09:39
Jazonyeah, ok09:39
Jazonaptitude might do a better job with that (???)09:39
flaccidi've never down a successful downgrade with ubuntu09:39
Jazonheh09:39
flaccidbut thats just me09:39
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flaccidmind you i am a cli guy, but yeah09:39
Jazonsame09:40
Jazoni dont trust the gui for big stuff09:40
flaccidupgrading by cli was hard enough09:40
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Jazoneh?09:40
flaccidits hard to trust things like dept09:40
Jazonwhy is that hard?09:40
explosivesmmmh how can i ask i dont know ... i m a delphi programmer and i downloaded kylix but i couldnt install it do u know how can i install it ?09:40
flaccidits hard because you run into probems09:40
flaccid!find kylix09:40
ubotuPackage/file kylix does not exist in edgy09:40
flaccidexplosives: did you read the documentation on kylix09:41
explosivesso ?09:41
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explosivesi did but i didnt understand :S09:41
flaccidwhat don' you understand09:41
yuriyhi i just decided to try the menu bar at the top.  how do i make it thinner?09:41
Jazonwhen is feisty release date btw?09:42
Admiral_ChicagoJazon: April 19. /me points Jazon to #ubuntu+1 for Feisty talk09:42
Jazonthx Admiral_Chicago09:42
crazyroboti put feisty on my sisters laptop, and i'm constantly fixing things for her.  i think this weekend i'm going to downgrade her.09:43
yettenet_Well, I think I have another name for that PRogress Dialog thingy - Network Operation Window09:43
Admiral_Chicagoexplosives: what is the package format?09:43
yettenet_(The head of Settings)09:43
yettenet_:P09:43
explosivesit is zip09:44
explosivesi decompressed it09:44
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Admiral_Chicagowhat files do you see09:44
explosivesnow there is a "install" file09:44
explosivesbut i couldnt run it09:44
flaccidexplosives: so you didn't actually read the documentation09:44
flaccidINSTALL is usually a text file with install instructions. its not a binary.09:45
explosivesi read it ........ but i m new on linux just for 2 days passed09:45
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Admiral_Chicagoexplosives: in a konsole type sudo apt-get install fp-ide09:45
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flaccidwell if you point me to the doco i could help you understand..09:45
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flaccid!ftp-ide09:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ftp-ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:45
flaccid!ftp-ide09:45
Admiral_Chicagoexplosives: that should be an IDE for Free Pascal / Delphi09:45
flaccid!fp-ide09:45
ubotufp-ide: Free Pascal -- IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-4 (edgy), package size 904 kB, installed size 2416 kB09:45
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flaccidhmmm cool09:46
flaccidcept he wants to install kylix09:46
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Admiral_Chicago The Free Pascal Compiler is a Turbo Pascal 7.0 and Delphi compatible 32/64-bit09:46
Admiral_ChicagoPascal Compiler09:46
Admiral_Chicagoright, flaccid, I have to return to work, perhaps you can take over.09:46
Jazonpascal... hehe i remember them days!09:46
explosivesE: Couldn't find package fp-ide09:46
yettenet_ubotu: network operation window09:46
Jazonwhy pascal in 2007?????09:47
explosivescouse i m a delphi programmer...09:47
explosivesok ?09:47
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Admiral_Chicagoits got a delphi compiler09:47
yuriythis menubar has some potential if i can get it smaller...09:47
flaccidAdmiral_Chicago: have fun there09:47
Admiral_Chicagohey I code in FORTRAN 77.09:47
Admiral_Chicagowill do.09:47
Jazon:D09:47
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flaccidexplosives: link me to the doco if you want help09:47
Admiral_ChicagoJazon: so there, languages are neccesary for various cases.09:47
Jazonhangovers from the old days kind of thing?09:48
Jazoncheaper to maintain rather than rewrite?09:48
flaccidum09:48
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flacciddelphi object pascal != pasca09:48
intelikeyJazon like C  ?09:48
flaccidpascal09:48
flacciddelphi rules if you ask me09:49
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Admiral_Chicagowhat language would you use to write a parallel machine job?09:49
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic09:49
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:49
Admiral_Chicagothat goes for the whole room, myself included :)09:49
flaccidhaha09:49
intelikeyroom ?09:50
flaccidlike !offtopic is the scapegoat of this channe09:50
posingaspopularchan. he means chan.09:50
posingaspopularhe's just too ugly to know better ;)09:50
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flaccidhehe09:50
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intelikeygo to work.09:51
flaccidi second that09:51
posingaspopularblah you guys, all he does is work09:51
flaccidyou got inteli and flaccid0 here heh09:51
Admiral_Chicagoits soo hard with the existance of facebook. gone...09:51
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flaccidhehe09:51
flaccidi come to work after work09:52
flaccidits a great life09:52
flaccidat least i get to drink beer09:52
Admiral_Chicagosame here...but it is a weekeend...plus i would do ^^09:52
flacciddang09:52
yettenet_Well... any ideas on disabling netowrk operation window?09:52
explosivesnah it is not good enough i think windows is better than linux... i will install my windows again...09:53
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flaccidexplosives: so you successfuly installed it?09:53
explosivesno i didnt..............09:53
flaccidthen how do you know?09:53
Adydashah09:53
flaccidi've asked 3 times for the docos09:53
flaccidbut you don't link me09:53
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explosivesi dont know how to link it to you...09:53
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explosivesi m a NEWBIE ON LINUX09:54
flaccidwhat is the URL of the install documentation09:54
explosivesdid u understand ?09:54
flaccidwebsite where you got it09:54
explosivesk wait for a min plz09:54
flaccidnp09:54
intelikeyyettenet_ i have one for you.   when its open click the upper left corner and in the menu it produces special application settings.  set the window to a size of -0  and it's location to 10000   then if it does try to open you wont see it.09:54
flaccidexplosives: i'm not trying to spoonfed you because you are a developer :)09:55
intelikeywell that hack was a second to late.09:55
explosiveshttp://rapidshare.com/files/17842416/INSTALL.html09:55
flaccidok /me goes to look09:56
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flaccidthat asks me about webhost crap09:57
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flaccidyay i finally get to it09:58
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flaccidexplosives: which part do you not get?09:58
flaccidunder 'INSTALLATION PROCEDURE'09:58
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explosiveshow to run install :S09:58
flaccidthats step 5.09:59
crazyrobotin my years, i have installed and tested thousands of linux dists, and even the worst outdid windows.09:59
crazyrobotyou can't beat free.09:59
flaccidyes you can crazyrobot. webcam.09:59
flaccidor should i say webcam support.09:59
flaccidwindows beats us easy, as well as all the other hardware not supported properly09:59
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crazyrobotmy webcam works fine on kubuntu.10:00
explosivessould i type sh setup.sh ????10:00
InuDuelistWell, that was interesting.10:00
Adydasexplosives: ./setup.sh10:00
InuDuelistAnd filled with too many problems to be healthy.10:00
flaccidcrazyrobot: so everyone has the same webcam as you on the same install as you. ok...10:00
crazyrobotlinux is a programers system, if it doesn't work, fix it.10:00
InuDuelistintelikey: Yo.10:00
flaccidexplosives: first you need to cd to the mount directory of your cdrom which is prolly /media/cdrom10:01
crazyrobotthats why open source is so great.10:01
flaccidcrazyrobot: ok so windows users are not programmers. you realise that killed your argument... also please program each webcam out there for me. there is no standard protoco.10:01
explosivesi started to install it...10:01
seven11anyone download manager for kubun*10:01
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crazyrobotif you hate linux so much, why are you in this forum?10:02
flaccidmaybe you should of said can't beat free, if you are a programmer10:02
crazyrobotor rather irc chat.10:02
flaccidbut then again i'm a programmer and i don't have the skills to reverse engineer a hardware device...10:02
flaccidi love linux10:02
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic10:02
Admiral_Chicago:)10:02
flaccidim just sating reality10:02
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:02
flaccidAdmiral_Chicago: scaptegoat again hey10:02
flaccidi'm just answering questions10:02
flaccidwhich is what i do here :)10:02
crazyrobotforget proprietary software, if its broke you can't fix it.10:03
seven11anyone download manager for kubuntu10:03
Admiral_Chicagoflaccid: hey, the scapegoat carries away the sins of a village.10:03
Admiral_Chicagoseven11: define download10:03
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flaccidi never mentioned proprietary software :)10:03
flaccidlol10:03
crazyrobotwhat open source windows software do you have for webcams?10:03
mc__Hello! My xserver refuses to start, i always have to  chmod /dev/null to 666 first,how can i do this permanently? At the moment i have to do it at every reboot10:03
explosivesflaccid: it is installing now :)10:04
seven11a download mangager like the firefox plug in (down them all) with resume10:04
crazyrobotmc__: which one are you using?10:04
flaccidcrazyrobot: there is quite a few. the problem is not the client software, its the drivers and lack of ever being a standard protocol10:04
mc__crazyrobot:  6.1010:04
flaccidexplosives: coo10:04
crazyrobotmc__: no, which xserver?10:05
crazyrobot#kubuntu, 6.10, kdm?10:05
mc__crazyrobot: the default kubuntu one, Xorg10:05
crazyrobotso write a driver for linux?10:05
flaccidi mean cool explosives10:05
seven11Admiral_Chicago:  a download mangager like the firefox plug in (down them all) with resume10:05
flaccideven though explosives are usually hot10:05
seven11blue arrow pointing down i forgot the name10:06
chavoseven11, kget10:06
seven11thanks10:06
eXistenZHow does KDE manages its shortcuts?10:06
intelikeyInuDuelist hey10:06
InuDuelistintelikey: It was a dustcloud in there.10:07
eXistenZI want to some key in my keyboard.10:07
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eXistenZs/to/to remap10:07
intelikeyover heating because of DIRT !          InuDuelist ?10:07
yuriyeXistenZ: shortcut for what program?10:07
eXistenZyuriy, I want to remap my Caps Lock key for Esc.10:07
InuDuelistI don't think it was overheating.10:08
InuDuelistBUt...10:08
InuDuelistI did clean out my fan.10:08
eXistenZxmodmap interferes with the program KDE uses to map keys =x10:08
yuriyoh that sort of thing..10:08
InuDuelistI pulled off my RAM and dusted it.10:08
flaccidkcontrol -> keyboard10:08
flaccidhmmm i've done xmodmap with kde successfully before10:08
intelikeyInuDuelist i'm betting you notice the differance...10:08
intelikeywe'll see.10:08
InuDuelistQuite.10:08
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InuDuelistI left the case open.10:09
eXistenZflaccid, let me try again10:09
InuDuelistI"ll leave it like that for a couple days10:09
InuDuelistAnd the best part is that it's not even as hot as it was before.10:09
mc__how i can permanently set permissions in /dev? im on edgy10:10
InuDuelistSo that's a good sign10:10
intelikeyyup10:10
flaccidmc__: don't think you need to, why do you need to?10:10
InuDuelistLet's see what'll happen tomorrow morning.10:10
mc__flaccid:  xserver doesnt not start until i chmod /dev/null to 66610:10
intelikeymc__ you can have /etv/rc.local reset it each boot.10:10
mc__flaccid: and i have to do that every reboot10:10
flaccidthats weird10:11
explosivesflaccid: /usr/local/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /usr/local/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference didnt work...10:11
flaccidvery weird10:11
mc__indeed10:11
intelikeymc__ the files in there are not on the disk.  they are in ram.   can't do anything permanant to them.10:11
InuDuelistHrm.10:11
InuDuelistintelikey: Another problem10:11
flaccidmc__: um its going to reset perms on /dev/* all the time. what is the perm on /dev/null before you chmod it?10:11
InuDuelistKaffeine won't open10:11
intelikeyInuDuelist hmmm.10:12
mc__flaccid:  60010:12
Admiral_Chicagomc__: you could chmod 700 /dev but that would be a bad idea...10:12
InuDuelistThis's been around for a couple weeks10:12
explosives!!10:12
flaccidintelikey: can you confirm that its 600 on your /dev/null i assume it should be at least 66610:12
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago wouldn't be permanant either.10:12
Admiral_Chicagoright.10:12
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intelikey666 is correct.10:13
flaccidAdmiral_Chicago: 700 aint going to help10:13
flaccidhmm so what is making it 60010:13
Admiral_Chicago:) ^^^10:13
flaccidwhatever loads /devfs10:13
explosives--/usr/local/kylix3/bin/delphi: relocation error: /usr/local/kylix3/bin/libwine.borland.so: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference10:13
flaccidi dunno10:13
flaccidsomething is making it 60010:13
flaccidexplosives: google it, we cannot help. kylix does not support debian/ubuntu10:13
InuDuelistWhat do you think's the problem, intelikey?10:13
intelikeymc__ i noticed the same issue with the permission on /dev/null   i added a command in one of the init scripts for a permenant fix.10:13
explosivesi see10:14
flaccidintelikey: w0a that sounds like a bad bug...10:14
mc__intelikey: sorry im a noob,in which file should i add the command?10:14
intelikeyflaccid idk. easy cure.10:14
InuDuelistInteresting.10:15
InuDuelistIt appears I can't open .mpg files or .avi files (I'm assuming other types won't open either) via Kaffeine, Noatun, or Democracy.10:16
flaccididk ?10:16
InuDuelistBUt I can open them via the embedded player.10:16
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intelikeymc__ kdesu kate /etc/rcS.d/*mountall.sh    on the second line add this without the quotes. "chmod 666 /dev/null"    save and exit.   nothing to it.  and no more worries.10:17
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mc__intelikey: thank you10:17
intelikeyor actually make that the second line of the file.10:18
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intelikeyas in down arrow and hit enter so you have a blank line then paste that in.    you know that sort of thing.10:18
InuDuelistAnyone have any ideas? :(10:18
flaccid!multimedia10:19
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications10:19
flaccidthats my only suggestion10:19
InuDuelistHeh.10:19
InuDuelistMaybe I'll just reinstall the codecs.10:19
InuDuelistEven though they seem to work almost fine. :/10:19
flaccidwhich version of ubuntu is it10:19
intelikeyInuDuelist i have an idea that i like vlc for all that stuff and i use it in the console for watching vidios.   never did like or mess with other players much.10:19
flaccidi tend to use xine for movies myself10:20
InuDuelist6.10.10:20
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InuDuelistintelikey: I'll install it. Never really likes VLC, personally. At least, not when I used it on Windows. It'd always leak the sound after I closed it.10:20
intelikeyyuch that's be ugly.10:21
intelikeythat'd10:21
intelikeyme can't even type slang correctly10:21
intelikey/10:21
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InuDuelistWhat's the package called?10:22
flaccidapplication level software is like always broken somewhere for someone10:22
InuDuelist"vlc"?10:22
intelikeyyeah10:22
InuDuelistOK.10:22
flaccidand distros just make it worse10:22
intelikeyyou wont like it.   you never did.10:22
flaccidand of course lack of hardware support10:22
InuDuelistIt still leaks?!10:22
flaccidkaffeine is alright imo10:22
intelikeynot for me.10:22
intelikey!info vlc10:23
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB10:23
flaccidwhen it comes to video, anything that works quaifies for me10:23
InuDuelistI didn't get that much a shot at it. I used it a couple times, that's all.10:23
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cpk1kaffiene seems to have problem with my nice surround sound videos10:23
InuDuelistKaffeine seems to have a problem opening.10:24
InuDuelistI even reinstalled it.10:24
intelikeyInuDuelist i won't have time to see if the sound still pukes on it's self,   i have to go in about 6 minutes.   you can tell flaccid if he's around and i'll catch it tomarrow maybe.10:25
InuDuelistAck10:26
flaccidsee you around then10:26
InuDuelistOne sec then10:26
Admiral_Chicagodid someone say they watch movies in a terminal? if so, what package do you use...I've been looking for one to do that10:26
flaccidhow can you watch a movie in shel10:26
InuDuelistK, it works.10:26
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago vlc with svgalib10:26
intelikeyhave used it with frame buffering   but svgalibs seems safer on the display.10:27
intelikeyflaccid ^ that.10:27
InuDuelistintelikey: It works10:27
flaccidi heard about that10:27
intelikeyInuDuelist k.10:27
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flaccidhavnt heard many good reports on it10:28
flaccidnever tried it10:28
intelikeyok guys i need to roll up the sidewalk.10:28
Admiral_Chicagoty intelikey10:28
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago np10:28
intelikeylater.10:28
InuDuelistLater, intelikey. :)10:28
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smozeumount does not work properly10:38
smozeany tricks?10:38
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Admiral_Chicagosmoze: sudo?10:41
Admiral_Chicagohow are you unmounting?10:41
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wilmani use kguitar but i does not give any sound10:44
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Vincent_karg!! need help with netboot10:46
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Vincent_kgot dhcp server running and working but my client box times out while connecting to tftp server?10:46
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Vincent_kI have this in syslog: http://suzan.burning-oil.com/pub/linux/log10:49
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Vincent_kthis msg startes to generate while my client try to connect to tftp10:50
fdovingcheck your firewall setttings.10:50
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Vincent_kI have10:51
Vincent_kI've even turned it of10:51
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MenaHEY10:52
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Vincent_kI'm connecting through a router that I use as a switch. I'm doing to buy a crossovercable later today and try to connect box to box and se10:52
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MenaWhen i compiile a thing the installed files where did they go in the folder i compile from or to the folder where to install it10:53
Vincent_kI've set up the router to pass through everything lan to lan10:53
Menaanswer plz !!?10:54
velleAll that dpkg, apt-get and aptitude is amazing and simple... when it works. But now and then there are dependency problems or some config problems or something, and then it is a nightmare for a user like me.10:54
fdovingMena: depends. did you run 'make install' ?10:55
Menafdoving, yes10:55
fdovingvelle: what's the problem?10:55
fdovingMena: then i syspect the files to go to /usr/local/10:55
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Menafdoving, can i unistall it10:55
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velleIs there a complete intro to the entire package system? Still I have not even been able to find a tutorial or manual for dpkg. E.g. this is the closest to an official dpkg page http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=dpkg10:56
fdovingMena: maybe. you can try to run 'make uninstall' from the source folder where you ran 'make install' in the first place.10:56
Menafdoving, ok i will try :)10:56
vellefdoving: Right now the problems are many. I need to install gtk2, and it says that package kubuntu-desktop is not available. If I try to install kubuntu-desktop I get pages of errors.10:57
Menafdoving, What if i can10:57
Menacant*10:57
fdovingvelle: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/10:57
fdovingvelle: can you post the errors to for example http://rafb.net/paste/ - i can walk you through fixing them and try to explain why they appear.10:58
fdovingMena: then you need to find the files manually and remove them. can you find anything in /usr/local/bin for example?10:59
vellefdoving: I will start out reading that now, and see if it helps, thanks.10:59
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fdovingvelle: i suggest reading them in reversed order. the latter url first.10:59
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Menafdoving, be the way its kbfx last ver and its beta but i didnt know its for devel and also when i try to add i had crash11:00
Jinis there a way to change the root GTK theme to match my user themes?11:00
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Menaby*11:00
vellefdoving: That would be nice :) Walking through the probs, but firrst I try reading the guides, and then maybe I will come back. Thanks11:00
Menapanal crash11:00
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InuDuelistHey guys, .mov support, gogogog11:01
fdovingvelle: ok. i'll go prepare some food then.11:01
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Menafdoving, So do you have an idea or manauly11:02
Menafor it11:02
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flaccid_there is an insect in here11:02
flaccid_that i need to kill11:03
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InuDuelistHey guys, how do I get .mov support in Opera?11:09
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flaccid_!quicktime11:13
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:13
flaccid_should be in there InuDuelist11:13
InuDuelistThanks11:13
flaccid_np11:14
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InuDuelistIsn't Gstreamer a Gnome program?11:14
clauhi! i want to install fam instead of gamin (file monitoring systems), but if I want to make any changes to any of the package, it wants me to remove 300 packages!11:15
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InuDuelistclau: Have you installed a second desktop?11:15
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InuDuelistSuch as kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu-desktop and/or vice-versa?11:15
aneesanybody help me installing tomcat on kubuntu11:16
clauno, I use kubuntu 6.0611:16
algizHi, all!11:16
InuDuelistclau: So you installed, freshly, kubuntu 6.06?11:16
clauI did install stuff from the universe rep though :)11:16
InuDuelistOr you installed ubuntu and then installed kubuntu-desktop?11:16
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clauno, not freshly11:16
chavoclau, kubuntu-desktop depends on gamin11:16
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e1merhi all, anyone experience keyboard not accepting inputs?11:16
algiz-    ?11:17
clauoh... that's interesting. because I want to compile latest amarok, and I need the libfam.la file11:17
aneeshi anybody help me plz11:17
aneesi want to install and configure apache tomcat on kubunt11:17
aneeskubuntu11:17
chavoclau, you on edgy?11:18
clauno, I initially installed 6.06, but added quite all the reps (installed then KDE 3.5.5. etc)...11:19
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chavook there are amarok 1.4.5 packages for edgy11:20
claubut I don't quite have edgy :)11:20
chavotry doing apt-get build-dep amarok and rerun configure11:21
Vincent_kis there a way to check witch port are in use?11:21
Vincent_kports11:21
InuDuelistflaccid_: Wanna help me out some more with that .mov support?11:21
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flaccid_um11:22
flaccid_i'll try i just don't have kubuntu in front of me atm11:22
InuDuelistHmm...11:23
clauchavo: thanks, I'll try that11:23
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InuDuelistHmm.11:24
clauapt-get build-dep amarok didn't solve it...11:26
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storagemoin wer da?11:27
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InuDuelistHehe.11:28
InuDuelisthttp://themot.org/gallery/d/62125-1/Outside.jpg11:28
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cpk1clau: dapper probably doesnt have the right xine libs for amarok 1.4.5 so build-dep wont help you out there11:32
flaccid_thats right11:32
flaccid_i hate that11:32
flaccid_hehe11:32
claumaybe I just have to forget it and install edgy :)11:32
flaccid_probably a good idea11:32
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cpk1if you are a normal desktop user it probably wont hurt to get edgy11:33
clausafer anyways11:33
cpk1notice *probably*11:33
clauthanks!11:33
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clauand can I do an upgrade from dapper to edgy?11:35
clauwithout a fresh installation I mean11:35
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ForgeAusI think you just use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:36
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ForgeAusif you get synaptic (gtk) it will probably do ask you if you want to dist upgrade11:37
ForgeAusdunno if Adept has that feature11:37
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blashello11:37
ForgeAusyou'd have to ask Jucato11:37
ForgeAushey blas :)11:37
InuDuelistBah, forget it.11:37
chavoI did the dist-upgrade on a couple of machines here11:38
ForgeAusforget what?11:38
chavonow running feisty though11:38
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InuDuelistI guess there's no way to get video (other than flash video) support on Opera11:38
ForgeAuschavo nice :) did it work via adept or apt-get or synaptic?11:38
chavoI did it with apt-get11:38
ForgeAusOpera? um Inu, theres A) non-free win32codecs repositories like saveas and/or medibuntu that you can try11:39
blasehm i've installed kubuntu couple of days ago, but i still cant fix many things, iam a newbie to linux btw. my main problem is i need to set the rite place of my pictures with the monitor's buttons11:39
Admiral_Chicago!upgrade11:39
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)11:39
Admiral_Chicagothat is the way to de it11:39
blasbut if i set it to correct, i need to set it again in windows if i login to win11:39
clauAdmiral_Chicago: thanks!11:39
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Admiral_Chicagonp11:40
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e1merhi all, anyone experience keyboard not accepting inputs?11:41
InuDuelistForgeAus: I've got support for the videos on Konquerer and maybe Firefox.11:41
InuDuelistJust not Opera11:41
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blasany idea how to fix the display into the monitor ? by some settings not with monitor buttons11:42
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gabr1elhello11:42
blashi11:42
relluhi11:42
gabr1elcan sombady help me whit xgl and berly11:42
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Admiral_Chicagoblas: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg *might* help11:42
gabr1eli dont know how to install them11:43
rellucan someone help my to install drivers for ati radeon 7200?11:43
fdoving!beryl | gabr1el11:43
ubotugabr1el: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:43
Admiral_Chicago!ati | rellu11:43
uboturellu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:43
dromerhow can I see what network-settings my pc uses from the commandline?11:43
fdovingdromer: anything specific you're looking for?11:44
dromeractually, I'm trying AnonymOS on another pc, and I have to specify a netmask11:44
gabr1elhow do i install xgl11:45
gabr1el?11:45
flaccid_dromer: /etc/network/interfaces11:45
dromer!xgl | gabr1el11:45
ubotugabr1el: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:45
jullewhat do i write to see hidden folders and files in  a map ?11:45
dromerjulle: ls -a11:46
julledromer: thx11:46
dromerflaccid_: hmm, don't see it there11:46
fdovingdromer: you need to specify a netmask temporarily?11:46
dromeryes11:47
julleanyone knows how to change the path for the transgaming_drive?11:47
fdovingdromer: use ifconfig, 'sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0' for example11:47
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fdovingdromer: that is if 192.168.1.2 is the ip you want on your box,and eth0 is your network device, and 255.255.255.0 is the netmask you want.11:48
flaccid_and you can always man /etc/network/interfaces11:48
fdovingthat is 'man interfaces'11:49
fdoving:)11:49
flaccid_oh right11:49
dromerfdoving: I want to know what netmask, gateway etc this computer uses os I can use it on the other pc (I already did an ip)11:49
flaccid_sorry11:49
Admiral_Chicagoifconfig --all11:49
Admiral_Chicagoerr -a11:50
fdovingdromer: ah 'ip route' gives you the routingtable, 'ip addr' lists the addresses.11:50
flaccid_does netstat -r work?11:50
dromerthnx Admiral_Chicago11:50
InuDuelistI give up.11:50
InuDuelistGood night, guys.'11:50
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dromerhmmm, don't see the gateway in that though Admiral_Chicago11:50
fdovingdromer: route -n, or 'ip route'11:51
flaccid_gateway is set interface11:51
dromerhmm, ip/route command not found ..11:51
dromerbrb, get tea11:51
fdovingdromer: '/sbin/route -n'11:52
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dromerok, thnx! :)11:53
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julleHow i create a symbolic link to another path?11:58
flaccid_via konsole ok julle?11:58
flaccid_or you want graphical?11:59
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julleflaccid_: yeah i know, but i am having trouble to install a game via cedega, it uses a virtual drive. But that drive is located on my linux partition. "/home/user" and there is Not enough disk space on that partitition so i need to make a link to another harddisk, but i dont know what i shall write!?12:00
flaccid_ln -s /dir/file /dest/file12:00
flaccid_dest being the target of the link12:00
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Admiral_Chicagohmm, soft linking to a partition...doh! i should of though of that a long time ago.12:02
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flaccid_you can also mount --bind12:03
IsossHey guys, how can I set commads to run when kubuntu starts?12:03
waylandbill!autostart12:03
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.12:03
clauflaccid_: what does mount --bind do?12:03
flaccid_cool12:03
flaccid_umm12:04
flaccid_mounts it like it would a filesystem12:04
flaccid_eg. it comes up in mount and can be set with say tmpfs in /etc/fstab12:04
flaccid_but you don't need to do that normally12:05
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clauok... :)12:05
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Jack111hi guys, i cannot login any more, if i do startx from the console it tells me12:08
Jack111the complete error message is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7179/12:08
Jack111the main thing is this message:12:08
Jack111waiting for xserver to shut down.synaptics device off called. FreefontPath: FPE"/usr/shar/x11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing12:08
ubuntuhi12:08
Jack111would be cool if somebody knew12:08
Jack111hi12:08
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waylandbillJack111: that's not the error. The error is /dev/wacom not found.12:10
ubuntu_i can't create parttition swap why??12:10
flaccid_Jack111: two things. 1. is try doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg which will overwrite your current xorg.conf so back it up. you also probably need to do the following12:10
waylandbillJack111: comment out that device in the xorg.conf and you should be ok.12:10
flaccid_!baddevice12:10
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors12:10
flaccid_yeah sorry do baddevice removal thing first12:11
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Jack111waylandhill flaccid thank you12:12
Jack111waylandhill can i comment that from windows out? do i just add to hashmarks in the beginning of the line?12:13
Jack111two12:13
waylandbillwayland-hill ... hmm. :-)12:13
Jack111oops12:13
waylandbillyes. # the lines you don't want.12:13
Jack111waylandbill i already tried what flaccid said earlier the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ..so should i rather only comment out and then try it? HOW would the line look like?12:15
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waylandbillJack111: pastebin your xorg.conf and I'll tell ya what to comment out.12:20
Jack111waylandbill was just about to do that12:21
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Jack111http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7183/12:21
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Jack111waylandbill i have a xorg file and a xorg.conf file, i pasted the xorg file sorry, you need the other one? wait12:23
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waylandbillJack111: 149, 150 & 151 can be commented out and you should be good to go.12:24
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Jack111ok12:25
Jack111should i rename the xorg file to xorg.conf then?12:25
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Jack111ande delete all other xorg files like xorg.conf.custom12:25
waylandbillit should be looking for xorg.conf.12:26
Jack111or xorg.conf.2006062816470812:26
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waylandbilldone a little bit of toying with your xorg.conf? :-)12:26
tdnHow long does it usually take before a bug gets confirmed? I submitted a bug (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/86519) on 2007, 02, 20, and it is still not confirmed.12:26
cntbJack111:  in /etc/X11 ls -laF to see dates and choose a good xorg.conf to replace12:27
e1merhi all, anyone experience keyboard not accepting inputs?12:27
cntbjack can you use irssi ? i.e. communicate with us with no X or you are at different PC for chat ?12:28
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Jack111waylandbill yes, i tried to solve it since a couple of weeks.thats the xorg.conf but it shouldn't make a difference to what you said regarding the commenting out12:28
Jack111right?12:28
waylandbillright comment out those devices.12:28
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Admiral_Chicagocntb: depends on many factors, mostly if anyone can reproduce it.12:29
Jack111cntb i dualboot, so its the same12:29
Jack111but icant use x and kubuntu, just chatzilla in win12:29
tdnHow long does it usually take before a bug gets confirmed? I submitted a bug (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/86519) on 2007, 02, 20, and it is still not confirmed.12:29
waylandbillJack111: I went a bit further on mine and commented out the sections were those devices were defined as well.12:29
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cntbwhat is BTW the (initramfs) prompt in BUSYBOX debian?12:30
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Admiral_Chicagocntb: look at it now12:31
cntbJack111: dual boot is quite alright , still you would like to try things realtime  i.e. while chatting with us and it is possible12:31
cntbinstall irssi highly recommended12:32
Admiral_Chicagoor bitchk12:32
Admiral_Chicagoerr bitchx12:32
e1merhi all, anyone experience keyboard not accepting inputs?12:32
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e1merhi all, anyone experience keyboard not accepting inputs but works on fail safe mode (kdm)?12:32
Jack111waylandbill how can i edit the xorg.conf in windows, as in the editor the xorg text appears without format, and line numbers?12:32
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cntbyes I had it on other lab PC Admiral_Chicago just 2 min ago when attached other disk which confused obviously the boot12:33
waylandbilljust boot into linux, make the changes using nano or vi12:33
frojndhello12:33
frojndwhere is all saved for firefox (bookmarks)12:33
cntbo/ frojnd12:33
Jack111cntb as soon i can login i install it, i cannot do it from console right now, as my wireless drivers arent detected12:33
frojnd\o cntb12:33
cntblook in your user dir frojnd12:33
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ashantI have some questions on PHP - anybody able to direct me to the right server?12:34
waylandbillfrojnd: ~/.mozilla12:34
cntbyea wireless are a trouble in linux12:34
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ac2k5I have some questions on PHP - anybody able to direct me to the right server?12:35
cntbuse an ordinary NIC while fixing problems Jack11112:35
waylandbillac2k5: ##php ?12:36
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Jack111cntb i have no internet in linux at all cos it broke down before i cme here , whats an NIC? sorry i am not too into that12:41
frojndI found: bookmarks-2007-02-21.html in directory: /media/sda2/home/q/.mozilla/firefox/2gleetap.default/bookmarkbackups should I copy this into home backaup bookmarks??12:41
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Jack111but trying out if it works and be right back, thanks waylandbill flaccid cntb12:42
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Dekansdoes kopete only supports video and not audio ?12:43
frojndor what's the command to search for specific file "bookmarks*" in directory /media/sda2/home/q/.mozilla/firefox$12:43
Dekansfrojnd: you can export your bookmark from firefox12:44
Dekansif it's what you want12:44
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chavofrojnd, find  /media/sda2/home/q/.mozilla/firefox -name "*bookmarks*"12:45
frojndI found bookmarks.html in: /media/sda2/home/q/.mozilla/firefox/2gleetap.default12:46
Dekansdoes kopete only supports video and not audio ??12:46
frojndalso: bookmarks.bak  in that folder12:46
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waylandbillfrojnd: all the bookmarks are stored in bookmarks.html.12:48
frojndchavo any ideas how to replace those files with current will cp file /path/ help?12:48
matsavhalevDekans: yeah i think only video12:48
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frojndwayladbill: so I have to open this file?12:48
frojndor just copy it?12:48
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chavofrojnd, just copy it12:48
chavo~/.mozilla/firefox/somerandom.name12:49
Admiral_Chicago~/.mozilla/firefox/chars.default in your default profile12:52
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frojndno bookmars aaaaa12:52
frojndsudo cp bookmarks.html /home/q/.mozilla/firefox/9djxuhz2.default/  I did this here: /media/sda2/home/q/.mozilla/firefox/2gleetap.default$12:53
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Dekansfrojnd: what do you want to do ?12:53
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frojndDekans: import bookmars from oher linux to current..12:54
frojndfor firefox..12:54
chavofrojnd, no need for sudo if youre putting it in your home folder12:54
frojndI did whitout but still no bookmarks..12:54
Dekansfrojnd: you have firefow on other linux ?12:54
frojndDekans: ofcourse12:55
Dekansfirefox*12:55
chavoyou shouldnt use sudo for that12:55
chavonow it's owned by root12:55
Dekansfrojnd: in firefox : bookmarks -> manage bookmarks -> export12:55
frojndchavo: first time I did it without sudo.. and was the same12:55
Dekansyou will have a bookmark.html12:55
Dekansthen just import it12:55
aneeshi anybody help me plz12:55
Dekansno need to command line12:55
aneesi m installing sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 on ubuntu12:55
aneesbut failed12:56
aneesanybody help me plz12:56
Dekansanees: you have to agree the license12:56
Dekansmaybe12:56
frojndDekans: there isn't any manage bookmarks12:56
frojndor export12:57
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blashow can i "fit" the consol to the monitor screen? in x its nice12:57
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Dekansfrojnd: in the bookmark menu12:57
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jayI wanna join the #java channel but it says i need to be identified first.. how do I do that?12:57
aneesanybody help me plz12:58
aneesi want to install sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.512:58
aneesbut failed12:58
aneesplz anybody help me12:58
Dekansjay: /ns register password12:58
Dekansthen /ns identify password12:58
blasjay: Type: /msg NickServ HELP IDENTIFY for more information12:58
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Dekansanees: what's the problem12:59
Dekans?12:59
aneesdear i m installing tomcat12:59
aneesfor tomcat i need jre and jdk12:59
aneesi got a manual to install tomcat12:59
blasany idea on the console question?12:59
aneeshttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=22682812:59
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aneeshere i m installing sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.501:00
aneesbut unable to install it01:00
jay__thanks01:00
aneescan u plz help me01:00
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frojndDekans: tnx01:01
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aneesDekans r u there01:04
aneescan u help me plz01:04
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gorgonizerE: Package sun-j2re1.5 has no installation candidate - looks like the file is not there to me anees...01:05
aneesok01:05
aneesso what to do for this01:05
aneesi need jdk installed01:05
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gorgonizerhave you checked Suns website to see if you can download the .deb file from there??01:05
gorgonizersun are like that..01:06
tobias_its cause you have to agree to the lisence file u are not able to install the package01:06
Dekansanees: what's the error message ?01:06
tobias_its a common problem01:06
tobias_easily solved too I remember01:07
Jack111hi flaccid waylandbill, it doesnt work in recovery mode i still cannot login in and in the normal mode it freezes during booting up before the login screen appears. is the mistake that i worked on the file named xorg and not on xorg.conf? the latter is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7184/01:07
aneesmay be the sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 file is not there01:07
Dekansanees: what's the error message ?01:07
aneeswhat should i do01:07
tobias_!sun01:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:07
tobias_!java01:07
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.01:07
waylandbillJack111: of course. xorg.conf is the file you need to edit.01:07
aneesE: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.501:07
aneesi got this message01:07
tobias_oh01:08
Dekansapt-cache search j2re01:08
tobias_then u are installing the wrong pacage I guess01:08
aneesok let me try01:08
tobias_try one of the ones the bot listed01:08
Dekansor search j2re in adept and install the good package01:08
waylandbillJack111: but that one you just posted doesnt list the device that showed up in your error.01:08
aneeswhen i apt-cache search j2re01:09
aneesi got this message01:09
aneesopenoffice.org - OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.001:09
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Jack111waylandbill the other one was a conf file too, exactly thts what bothers me too, so what should i cross out there?01:09
waylandbillJack111: pasting your /var/log/Xorg.0.log can help.01:09
Jack111ok01:09
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Jack111 here it goes waylandbill http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7189/01:11
aneesso what can be the problem Dekans01:11
Dekansanees: search j2re in adept01:14
aneesDekans r u there01:14
Dekansand install the good package01:14
aneesok01:14
aneeswhat will be the command01:14
aneescan u plz guide me how to search j2re in adept01:14
Dekansadept will be nicer than apt-cache search01:14
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aneesok01:14
Dekansanees: kubuntu edgy ?01:14
waylandbillJack: Fatal server error: Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs        for all framebuffer devices01:14
aneesyes01:15
Dekansj2re1.4 - Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition01:15
Dekansi have this package in my repos01:15
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aneesoh01:15
Dekansnot the 1.501:15
aneessame with me01:15
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waylandbillJack111: for some reason it's using a 'built-in' configuration.01:16
Dekansand this :01:16
Dekanssun-java6-bin - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 601:16
Dekanssun-java6-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 601:16
Jack111waylandbill what should i do then01:16
Dekansmaybe it helps01:16
waylandbillJack111: (EE) Unable to locate/open config file01:17
aneeshmm01:17
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waylandbillJack111: you do in fact have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?01:17
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aneesdekans how to set environment variables for java01:18
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Dekansno idea01:18
aneesok01:18
Dekansi just installed java to use eclipse01:18
waylandbillJack111: what does "ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf" show?01:18
aneesok01:18
aneeshow u install java01:18
Jack111waylandbill i got three including the custom one01:18
aneestell me the command01:18
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Dekanssudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre01:19
Dekansit's on the backports repo01:19
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aneesbut I m getting error with this command01:19
waylandbillJack111: what does "ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf" show?01:20
aneesE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).01:20
aneessun-java6-jre: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1) but it is not going to be installed or01:20
Dekansanees: sudo apt-get install -f01:20
aneesia32-sun-java6-bin (= 6-00-0ubuntu1~dapper1) but it is not installable01:20
Dekansand then retry to install java01:20
aneesyes it is working01:21
Jack111waylandbill i cannot use internet from console so i would need to reboot, as i am on windows, but another xorg.conf from june is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7191/. shall i use that one?01:21
SolidSourceanees: you don't use the ia32-sun-java01:21
Jack111or shall i do ls and come back`?waylandbill01:21
aneesno idea01:21
aneeshow to check it01:21
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DekansI have to go, good luck01:22
SolidSourceanees: the 2 packages you need for java are sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-plugin01:22
aneesok01:22
aneesafter sudo apt-get install -f01:22
aneesi got Setting up sun-java5-jre (1.5.0-06-1) ...01:22
aneesSetting up sun-java5-bin (1.5.0-06-1) ...01:22
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waylandbillJack111: you need to have /etc/X11/xorg.conf in existance. Doesn't matter which one as long as X can find it. Then go from there.01:23
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SolidSourceanees: well also don't use adept to install those01:23
SolidSourceanees: konsole only unless you are using feisty01:23
waylandbillJack111: copy one of the files there if you have to, but you have to end up with xorg.conf in that directory.01:24
aneesok01:24
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MarkChi! how do i chat on yahoo chat! using kopete?01:24
aneesSolidSource now what should i do01:25
SolidSourceMarkC: you mean chat not IM?01:25
MarkCyes.01:25
n4chtSolidSource: I was about to ask that same question.01:25
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MarkCn4cht: i see you've been to ubuntu-offtopic01:26
n4chtMarkC: for entering the actual chat rooms, i'm not sure if that's possible.   if ever I need to do that, i just use GAIM.01:26
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SolidSourceanees: well I don't know exactly where you are in your install, but just need to make sure all the plugin folders for have at least the link to the libjava*.so file01:26
MarkChmm... i didnt know that was possible, but ill try it now.01:26
n4chtMarkC: I sure am, though currently switching between konversation and a konsole session, where I'm trying out each version of GCC and checking to see which best works with the project I'm working on.01:27
aneesi have installed tomcat01:27
MarkCsudo aptitude install gaim01:27
aneesbut only i need jdk and jre01:27
MarkCoops sorry01:27
SolidSourceanees: the jre itself, you download from java.com01:27
aneesplz tell me the command01:27
Jack111ok so i rename this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7191/ from xorg.conf~ to xorg.conf and leave the xorg file untouched.what should i hashmark out in this xorg.conf file?waylandbill01:28
SolidSourceanees: one second will provide a paste link01:29
aneesok01:29
SolidSourceanees: here you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7193/01:30
aneesok01:30
SolidSourcegave both flash and java01:31
waylandbillJack111: lines 149, 150, 151 comment out and make sure it's name xorg.conf. Should be good to go.01:31
MarkCwhat is the command used to start the kde panel?01:32
MarkCgnome panel can be started by the gnome-panel command right? how about kde?01:32
MarkCmy kde panel just disappeared.01:32
aneesSolidSource thanx again01:32
SolidSourceanees: for the jre file...you download from java.com its the self-extracting one....NOT the RPM01:32
aneesI am reading it01:32
HobbseeMarkC: kicker01:32
Jack111waylandbill thats exactly what i did to the xorg file.changed and renamed to xorg.conf01:32
aneesok01:32
aneesI love you SolidSource01:33
MarkCthanks Hobbsee.01:33
waylandbillJack111: what permissions are on the file? That's why I asked what ls -l looked like for the file.01:34
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Jack111ok wait i cannot check that from win can i ?01:35
Jack111i reboot and tell you then01:35
SolidSourceanees: also note depending on what web browser and how it was installed will change the (example "/usr/lib32/firefox/plugins") folder name might be different01:35
waylandbillJack111: ok01:35
aneesok dear01:36
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micha_Hi - anyone got the Xen running without starting from scratch?01:39
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gorgonizerhas anyone managed to install the third KDE 4 snapshot?  I am having issues with the repository given on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.3.php01:41
SolidSourcegorganizer: you followed all the directions given?01:42
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gorgonizerI did, added the repository given (deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ ./, by both CLI and Adept), get the error Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/./Packages.gz  404 Not Found when performing sudo apt-get update..01:43
Jack111waylandbill it is -rw-r--r-- 1 root root01:43
waylandbillJack111: that looks good.01:44
waylandbillJack111: how are you starting X? via kdm?01:44
Jack111waylandbill: yes01:44
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SolidSourcegorganizer: server might be down01:46
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gorgonizerThe server is up, able to browse to that repository, though if I compare it to the previous repository http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.2/ it is arranged completely differently01:48
SolidSourcehmm01:49
waylandbillJack111: if you run X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf as root, what happens?01:49
gorgonizerSolidSource: that is what I thought... thought I would ask on here before giving up... ;)01:49
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SolidSourcegorgonizer: wonder if you need a key01:50
Jack111mom waylandbill01:50
SolidSourcegorgonizer: though they don't say anything about such01:51
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gorgonizerI re-added Jonathan's key using  sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg just incase, got the OK, but still failed on the same thing above..01:51
SolidSourcegorgonizer: key would most likely be different...trying to think of where to get it01:52
SolidSourcegorgonizer: course usually a 404 error means it can't connect to server at all01:53
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gorgonizerI thought error 404 was that the requested page could not be found, not that hte server was down... as http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/./Packages.gz (which apt-get update seems to point itself at) doesn't exist...01:56
gorgonizerhave found that http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/pool-edgy/ contains the packages, whereas http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/ contains the packages.gz file01:57
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SolidSource404 is no server response (which is just usually a server down)01:57
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giangySolidSource: wtf?01:57
giangy404 is file not found.01:58
Jack111waylandbill if i do that, a grey screen appears, nthing on it just the cursor01:58
SolidSourcenot really01:58
giangySolidSource: 503 is service unavailable01:58
waylandbillJack111: that's good.01:58
SolidSourcegiangy: 503 still means you got a response01:58
Jack111waylandbill????01:58
waylandbillJack111: now why in the heck won't it use that config file when starting by kdm.01:58
giangySolidSource: 404 too :)01:59
SolidSourcegiangy: yes 404 can...but usually not...in this case yes got response, but there is no key file to tell anything about the repo02:00
Jack111waylandbill you would sve me the money i would spend for bying an external harddrive then if you found out, hehe02:00
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waylandbillJack111: I'm looking to find out where that can be overridden02:00
dettoaltrimenti_when I run beryl-manager, the tops of my windows flash on and off- which log can I check to see any errors I'm getting?02:01
Jack111waylandbill: cool, thankyou02:01
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parkerw207can anyone tell me who to get my dvd playback working ?02:03
fdoving!dvd02:03
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages02:03
parkerw207i got that02:03
SolidSourcegorgonizer: have you tried this "wget http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.2/packages.gz" "sudo apt-key add packages.gz"??02:03
fdovingSolidSource: that won't work.. Packages.gz  isn't a key.02:04
SolidSourcefdoving: yeah, I know...was just a thought that adept might be able to read it and such02:04
cntbannoying bus keeps me from conveniently switching languages with alt-shift or whatever else only right click flag works02:05
cntbbus > bug02:06
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SolidSourcegorgonizer: you may have to wait till later, they may have just forgotten the key file at current time02:07
Jucatowhat key file?02:08
SolidSourceKDE 3.8 repo key file02:08
Jucatoit's Riddell's key, afaik.02:08
cntbI remember Iwas pointed to LINUXimaging SOFTWARE , did not bookmark it then02:08
cntbpls point to some linux disk imaging02:09
Jucatodoesn't Riddell's key work? (you can get it from the other announcement pages, the one for KDE 3.5.6 for example)02:09
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MarkChello! how do i get a screenshot in kde?02:09
SolidSourcehe said he tried the trivenos key file02:09
MarkCprint screen doesnt seem to do anything.02:09
gorgonizergorgonizer@sweetleaf:~$ sudo apt-key add Packages.gz    gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.02:09
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Jucatogorgonizer: it's Riddell's key. trivenos has nothing to do with it02:10
Jucatogorgonizer: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php <--- follow the instructions to get Riddell's key from here02:10
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gorgonizerI have tried Riddell's key, still gives me the 404 error..02:10
Jucatohm...02:11
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JucatoMarkC: in System Settings -> Accessibility -> Input Actions -> Preset Actions -> Print Screen, check that it's not Disabled02:11
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JucatoMarkC: the screenshot program is called ksnapshot, in case you want to launch it manually02:12
gorgonizerIf I substitute http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/ for http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/ is finds the packages.gz file, but then can't find the packages...02:12
MarkCJucato: thanks. i dont have ksnapshot installed, thats why.02:12
Jucatogorgonizer: I'd recommend asking in #kubuntu-devel02:13
JucatoMarkC: er.. ok... :P02:13
fdovinggorgonizer: what are you trying to do?02:13
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gorgonizerI am trying to install the latest KDE4 snapshot...02:14
Jucatogorgonizer: for what purpose?02:14
gorgonizerthe third version, should be a repository at deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ ./02:15
MarkCJucato: well ive just installed kde-core. the packages in kubuntu is too much of a download, and btw. im the same Mark C in ubuntuforums, you _are_ everywhere. ;-)02:15
fdovinggorgonizer: there is an error on the page. 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.3/ edgy main' is the correct.02:15
waylandbillJack111: still here?02:15
JucatoMarkC: I know. I figure that out minutes ago :)02:15
Jack111waylandbill:02:15
Jack111 yep02:15
JucatoMarkC: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core and http://jucato.org/kde/kde-core.html in case you're interested02:16
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gorgonizerPurpose??  shits and giggles mainly, though I like to look at things.. fdoving: the previous snapshot had the entry deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.2/ ./ which worked without a problem..02:16
gorgonizerwill try your suggestion though :)02:16
Jucatogorgonizer: that's not the proper repository. please check the announcement page02:17
fdovingJucato: looks like the announcement page is wrong too. :|02:18
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waylandbillJack111: try adding a line to the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc file. In section [X-:0-Core]  add a line ServerArgs=-config /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:18
Jucatoplease do take note that the snapshots are intended for developers. end users will barely have any use for them02:18
Jucatofdoving: and without Riddell around...02:18
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SolidSourcejucato he is trying to use the repo link from the announcement page02:18
JucatoSolidSource: ok. fdoving said it might be wrong to02:19
SolidSourceJucato: so either the kubuntu team screwed up on there posting or something else is all02:19
SolidSourcewell them screwing up seems unlikely02:20
SolidSourcebut who knows02:20
jullewhat do i type to see all my partitions and harddisk, looking for more to mount02:20
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aortrh33does anyone know how to reconfigure the Xserver (Xorg) from the command line.  I seem to have screwed up my system while trying to change the screen resolution and the identified video card02:21
Jucato!xconfig | aortrh3302:21
ubotuaortrh33: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes02:21
Jack111waylandbill  where should i insert the line in that section? and does the line start with the hashmarK? ofcourse not, right?02:22
waylandbillJack111: just in that section and no hash mark02:22
aortrh33ubotu - I've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with no success - rec'd error stating that Xserver was broken...I'll try the other options next time I boot it - thanks02:23
Jucato!ubotu | aortrh3302:23
ubotuaortrh33: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:23
SolidSourcelol I love how so many ppl do that02:23
Jucato:D02:24
aortrh33yesh, don't I feel like a goob now....02:24
Jucatoaortrh33: don't worry. you're in good company :D02:25
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SolidSourceyeah no biggy..just funny02:25
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Jack111waylandbill tryin it out thank you02:25
SolidSourceanyone know of a good sound card with hardware mixing? that would be very useful02:29
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MarkCSolid Source: hardware mixing? doesnt all sound cards mix things inside the card?02:34
crystufer2000Kubuntu.02:35
crystufer2000Yay.02:35
PhinnFortMarkC: no, most cards dont02:35
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SolidSourceMarkC: most cards are AC97...which means only software mixing02:35
SolidSourceand arts and alsa suck at it02:36
MarkCoh, ok. new technology acquired. :)02:36
MarkCthanks.02:36
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PhinnFortSolidSource: ALSA has gotten DMix included by default now, doesnt it?02:37
PhinnFortit should help things02:37
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SolidSourcePhinnFort: helps yes...but when trying to run things in wine and then trying to use amarok....things don't go well02:37
PhinnFort;)02:37
PhinnFortis kubuntu using external alsa, or the alsa included with stock kernel?02:38
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SolidSourcedon't think alsa is included directly into the kernel...but idk02:39
PhinnForti meant the alsa drivers02:40
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SolidSourcehmm maybe I'm not understanding what you meant completely02:42
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arinomiCan anyone help me with installing Mozilla Firefox on Kubuntu Dapper Drake?02:45
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SolidSourceits in repo...so either adept or "sudo aptitude install firefox"02:45
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Jack111waylandbill hi i had a new login screen, and it allowed me to start gnome, but every second an error came that nautilus couldnt be started, when i tried to start kde, it stopped booting the desktop when it said loading the window manager02:47
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rubendoes someone know if ndiswrapper work on Kubuntu?02:49
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Jack111_waylandbill hi i had a new login screen, and it allowed me to start gnome, but every second an error came that nautilus couldnt be started, when i tried to start kde, it stopped booting the desktop when it said loading the window manager02:51
SolidSourceruben: don't see why not02:51
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arinomiSolidSource : Thanks, it worked, but it needed me to run 'dpkg --configure -a'. I did run it, but it said I need superuser admission. That's strange, as I am root user. Or are those different?02:52
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SolidSourcearinomi: you are not a root user, nor do you want to be02:52
waylandbillJack111_: you got further. That's good. pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:52
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waylandbillJack111: you got further. That's good. pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:53
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arinomiSolidSource: Oh well, how to I get the Superuser privelige the Terminal asks for?02:53
waylandbill!sudo | arinomi02:53
ubotuarinomi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:53
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SolidSourcearinomi there you go02:54
arinomiAh, I see. ^^02:54
arinomiStill very fresh, but wanting to learn02:54
Jack111is is here thank you so much waylandbill http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7204/02:54
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linuksamikosaluton everyone02:55
linuksamikoI just installed kde4 and I have a few questions02:56
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linuksamikofirst of all it is too bad that konqueror crashs during start (even if I don't expect so much differentses) but what about okular?02:57
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linuksamikoIt says on the kubuntu page that okular will be included in the latest releas but I can't find it02:58
Jucatolinuksamiko: KDE 4 is unusable at this point. the development snapshots are for developers02:58
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arinomiHow can I upgrade from Dapper to Edgy?02:59
arinomiI only found guides for Ubuntu, not Kubuntu02:59
fdoving!upgrade02:59
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)02:59
linuksamikoJucato: I'm aware of that but I realy want to take a look at okular02:59
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SolidSourcearinomi: ubuntu and kubuntu are the same is essence, so a guide in ubuntu works for kubuntu with minor modefications02:59
SolidSourceDoes anyone have a Toshiba MP3 player?03:00
waylandbillJack111: sorry. don't know what's causing you to lock up loading the window manager.03:00
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arinomiSolidSource: No, I stick to my iPod Nano. About the only thing I like about Apple..03:00
ScarFreewillwhat is the stuff at the start of a batch file that makes it runable? some thing like #bash03:01
SolidSourcescrew ipod...might as well get a zune03:01
Jack111waylandbill is there a way to reinstall kubuntu from cd, without risking to loos my old data on kubuntu and windows?03:01
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_eMaX_hi all03:01
_eMaX_ne1 here uses 2.6.20?03:01
linuksamikoScarFreewill: You talk about #!/bin/sh03:02
linuksamikoScarFreewill: but it should work without it too03:02
chavo_eMaX_, yes it's default in feisty03:03
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linuksamikoscraffreewill: if you want to make a file executable type "chmod +x <FILENAME>"03:04
econthrusthi there guys, anyone could save my linux lovin butt? i desperately need to have wireless enabled on my laptop! PLS HELP! ^^03:04
rubenyour not the only one03:04
econthrust:(03:04
econthrusti just don't believe there is no way I can avoid installing windows :(03:05
SolidSourcewireless cards: internal has better luck...external cards are a pain03:05
Roeyeconthrust:  are you using Feisty Fawn?03:05
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RoeySolidSource:  aye.  I haven't been able to get my d-link dwl-ag650 to be able to connect to networks.. thought it can see them03:06
_eMaX_chavo does it rather make sense to upgrade to feisty or to compile a vanilla or mm2 patched kernel on ubuntu?03:06
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SolidSourceRoey: yeah several ppl have had same problems...we never did get it figured out exactly how to solve it...though maybe someone new knows03:07
_eMaX_I want to go to 2.6.20 for the thinkpad drivebay support03:07
chavo_eMaX_, is there something in 2.6.20 you need?03:07
econthrusti have internal card, and using edgy eft03:07
chavook03:07
_eMaX_see that's answer before the question :D03:07
chavolol03:07
SolidSourceeconthrust: and your problem with yours is?03:08
RoeySolidSource:  oh?  I know another guy (notmax on here or #ubuntu+1 or somewhere) had the same problem03:08
waylandbillJack111: you could install but choose not to format the parition.03:08
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chavowell I had no problems with the feisty upgrade, but you never know03:08
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econthrustSolidSource: i ve just bought a dlink wifi router and im new to the linux side of wifi, cannot make it communicate on the wireless network, i need a helping hand03:08
waylandbillJack111: I tend to put my /home on a different parition than my / so in case I need to reinstall cause I broke something, I don't lose my data.03:08
Jack111i think thats too dangerous, i tried it in past and didnt wqork for me waylandbill03:08
_eMaX_hmm. currently I am compiling 2.6.20-mm2 yet why not just upgrade to feisty...03:09
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_eMaX_otoh I don't want to somehow screw up my automatic updates03:09
SolidSourceeconthrust: which program are you using for network management?03:09
waylandbillJack111: back up your important data before attempting any re-install is my only other advice.03:10
econthrustSolidSource:  tried network manager, but no luck, i just can't see what it's trying to do...actually i want to start from the beggining03:10
_eMaX_chavo do you have somewhere a pointer on how to upgrade to feisty - is that just something like apt-get dist-upgrade?03:10
Jack111yep i do hell new drive anyway thank you very much waylandbill03:10
econthrustSolidSource: i'm pretty good at using the console, so don't go easy on me :)03:11
rubeni think i am missing something with ndiswrapper: i download- i untar with tar zxvf - i change to ndiswrapper directory, and then i dont know what to do ....03:11
chavo!upgrade03:11
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)03:11
waylandbillJack111: we gave it a valiant effort anyway. good luck. Getting new hardware is always a good day. :-)03:12
SolidSourceeconthrust: can you atleast see networks?03:12
chavo_eMaX_, same thing as that link but change the dapper to edgy and the edgy to feisty in the sed line03:12
Jack111waylandbill you are right we did all we could, good excuse for bying nw stuff hehe03:12
econthrustSolidSource: nope, not a thing, i don1t even know which hardware to monitor :(03:12
econthrustSolidSource: i have a eth1 for the wired net, and a eth0 for the firewire (disabled now)03:13
SolidSourceeconthrust: found that when you run ifconfig?03:13
ScarFreewill1thanks linuksamiko03:14
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econthrustyes and also left this two in the etc/network/interfaces03:14
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SolidSource!wireless03:14
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:14
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econthrustWOOO! GReat! :)03:15
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econthrusti look it up right away!03:15
econthrustthanks!03:15
SolidSourceeconthrust: when ifconfig and don't see anything starting with a "W"...then the card wasn't recognized03:16
econthrustgosh no! :(03:16
econthrusti don't have wlan0 or anything like that03:16
SolidSourceyou'll have to add it manually03:17
econthrustare there any packages, or do i have to serch my head off?03:17
_eMaX_wow chavo. he wants to download 1.2 gb.03:18
chavowow you have a lot of stuff installed03:18
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SolidSourceeconthrust: at most the only thing to install (if at all needed) would be ndiswrapper and kwifimanager03:18
_eMaX_well u know vi is already a huge install with all the multimedia stuff03:19
econthrustSolidSource: doing that right now03:19
econthrustwhat does ndisw... do?03:19
rubenndis installs windows drivers03:20
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econthrustcool :)03:20
rubensomethimes nedded for hardware03:20
rubenand i need first install ndis...03:20
econthrustand then i need to restart networking to see if it finds anything?03:20
rubencan someone here help me with installing ndiswrapper?03:21
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econthrustndiswrapper-common03:21
SolidSource!wireless > ruben03:21
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SolidSourcethat explains pretty much as I would know about linux and wireless...cause I gave up on wireless back when ubuntu was version 403:22
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_eMaX_chavo just in case dist-upgrade fucks up things - is there a way back?03:23
chavo_eMaX_, no03:23
SolidSource_emax_ yeah...fresh install from disc03:24
_eMaX_yep that's exactly the answer I wanted to hear03:24
chavoyeah there's always a way03:24
econthrustthank yu guys! again you have saved the day, now it's my turn to fight this wifiwar :)03:24
econthrustbyez!03:24
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rubeni read the tekst about ndiswrapper and i am searching for the missing link...03:26
rubeni have untart cd to ndis03:26
rubenand then...03:26
rubeni dont know how to install03:27
rubenwhat command i have to give for installing ndiswrapper?03:28
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lu-baomew :)03:29
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Jucatomewtwo03:30
lu-baoJucato, xD03:30
lu-bao*laugh*03:30
Jucato:D03:31
weathermanhi, i have a very old pc (64mb of ram I think) and a kubuntu live cd, is there any way to just boot the linux kernel without the graphics and stuff?03:31
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lu-baoweatherman, what do you have without programs and only kernel ? :> then your computer is very um yeah ^^" useless03:32
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Jucato!ndiswrapper03:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:32
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rubeni cant find about the last commandline in these docs...03:33
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lu-baoweatherman, but you can try to boot in init 3 mode so that your comp stays at shell after booting :)03:33
weathermanlu-bao: well ok I need a shell03:33
rubendoes know someone the last command here?03:34
weathermanlu-bao: how do I boot in init 3?03:34
lu-baoweatherman, yep but i dont know the command you need to boot in init3 mode :) only know that this helps ask others who know about boot parameters ^^03:34
lu-baoor search google :)03:34
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RickSeymourIf i install herd4 can i move onto herd 5 (if one appears) by using apt-get? or is it more complicated than that03:35
JucatoRickSeymour: simply dist-upgrade03:36
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RickSeymourhmm... so in april when its released as .. err 7.04 can i do a dist-upgrade then?03:37
Jucatoyep03:38
RickSeymourfantastic... might as well move to fiesty now then :) (on edgy at the moment).. rather happy with it (came from gentoo).. but am finding that quite a few of the packages are substantially older than in gentoo on the stable route03:39
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waylandbillRickSeymour: gentoo is rather bleeding edge. it can and will have newer packages.03:41
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RickSeymourTrue true, although there is always SVN :)03:42
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dilucidateHi, I'm dual booting a macBook with mac OS X and kubuntu.  I want to get my mac partition readable/writable on kubuntu.(atleast readable) I can mount it easily enough but I don't have correct permissions to open most of the files I want to open.  How do I mount it with correct permissions.03:44
dilucidateHere is my fstab entry..  /dev/sda2 /media/mac hfsplus rw,exec,auto,users 0 003:44
FringeJacketI just got beryl last night and now I have 8 desktops. my kde shows that I only have one and so does my beryl03:45
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pauljwFringeJacket: go into configure desktop and set your system to just 1 multiple desktop.  that's now 1 cube of 4 sides03:47
pauljwsorry just reread and that is what you have... FringeJacket03:48
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FringeJacketpauljw yeah, I checked that first cause I made that mistake last night, ended up with 24 desktops03:49
[StingRay] Hi, all can somebody tell me a console command to minimize all running applications (CTRL+ALT+D represented by a command)?03:50
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jayis there a way that i can download kde debs from the net?03:50
pauljwFringeJacket: I had done that same thing which is why I jumped at the solution :)03:52
pauljwI have no clue what could be going on03:52
FringeJacketpauljw yeah, my friend laughed as soon as I did that last night03:52
FringeJacketthansk for trying, I'll make RJ fix it03:53
pauljw:)03:53
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Jucato[StingRay] : dcop kicker kicker toggleShowDesktop03:54
_eMaX_is there anything substantial to say against moving from edgy to feisty now?03:54
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[StingRay] thanks Jucato. I just found out I was missing the --all-users --all-sessions, too03:55
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Maximehi guys, i have a probleme with my audio cards, how can i install drivers ?03:55
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Jucato_eMaX_: yes. "alpha"03:55
_eMaX_anyone using feisty so far?03:56
matsavhalev_eMaX_: been using it a month or so03:57
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_eMaX_cool tnx03:57
jayhow do i change my chatname03:57
jay?03:57
matsavhalevjay: /nick  newname03:57
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Maximesomeone know how to install audio driver pls?03:58
muuhBDXiwhen will kunbuntu have a usb version ?03:58
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BluesKajHowdy all :)03:58
matsavhalevMaxime: which audio driver? is it not being loaded automatically?03:58
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matsavhalevmuuhBDXi :   you can run it on usb already, i use it on an external usb harddrive03:59
Jucato!usb03:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:59
Jucatobah... hm..03:59
abattoirmuuhBDXi: no plans afaik, you can make one if you want ;)03:59
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abattoiri think he's asking for a version which runs of a flash drive03:59
abattoir*off04:00
MaximeMat : no04:00
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Hrontoreim wondering is there any way to get ipod to work with linux?04:00
Maximehow to registred?04:00
muuhBDXiversion which runs of a flash drive04:01
matsavhalevHrontore: shouldnt be a problem at all04:01
muuhBDXiyes04:01
Hrontorebut i cant use itunes04:01
Hrontoreits mac and windows only?04:01
FringeJackethave you tried wine?04:01
Hrontoreno04:01
matsavhalevHrontore: use some other software otherwise, why use drm'd stuff?04:01
_eMaX_muuhBDXI rather get one of those distros made for that - you don't want to constantly write to your memory stick04:01
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FringeJacketI got itunes to work with wine Hrontore04:01
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Hrontorehuh ill have to dl that then04:02
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Maximeitunes work on kubu ?04:02
muuhBDXiim looking for a usb version that runs from ram04:02
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abattoirmuuhBDXi: i think dsl does that... slax too04:03
abattoirmuuhBDXi: check out their entries at distrowatch04:03
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abattoir!itunes | Maxime04:03
ubotuMaxime: itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee04:03
muuhBDXibut how do i make run from ram by default ?04:03
abattoirmuuhBDXi: you generally pass the toram option during boot04:03
CuBoneI think there might be something wrong with my downloaded kubuntudvd. How can I check the md5 checksum under winxp?04:04
abattoirmuuhBDXi: you can remaster it to do it by default if you wish so04:04
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FringeJacketOk, 8 desktops is getting annoying. someone needs to fix this!04:04
muuhBDXiisnt that an option you set on the boot parameter ?04:04
waylandbillI would think any usb one would run at least partly from ram (at least the same as a LiveCD does)04:04
abattoirCuBone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM04:05
muuhBDXinot partly04:05
waylandbillmuuhBDXi: oh. you want it to copy all to ram at boot.04:05
CuBoneSweet thanks04:05
abattoirmuuhBDXi: i don't get what you mean04:05
abattoirmuuhBDXi: yeah, that's what i meant, that's what the toram option does, so you can remove your flash drive, for eg. after it's been loaded04:06
muuhBDXiit should do it by default04:06
waylandbillFringeJacket: beryl? If you have the desktop cube turned on, then it will add desktops.04:06
muuhBDXinot having to do stuff manualy every time04:06
abattoirmuuhBDXi: i guess you'll have to remaster it then04:06
FringeJacketwaylandbill yeah, I have 1 kde manager and 1 on my beryl04:07
muuhBDXithe os sahould work for the user not the user work fot the os04:07
abattoirmuuhBDXi: i guess it's a bit offtopic for this channel though, remastering...04:07
muuhBDXiremaster ?04:07
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waylandbillFringeJacket: but I'm suspecting you have something set that requires more than 1 like the cube.04:07
muuhBDXitheres no remastering needed04:07
waylandbillFringeJacket: The KDE manager only affects it if KWin is the WM.04:07
abattoirmuuhBDXi: it's the process by which you 'modify' a live cd, or in your case a flash drive image to suit your needs04:08
waylandbillmuuhBDXi: there is if you don't want a cheat code to enable it.04:08
muuhBDXionly add the cheat code by default to isolinux04:08
FringeJacketwaylandbill I beg to differ, I played around with it and it gave me 16 right now04:08
waylandbillFringeJacket: yes. you are right. It acts as a multiplier.04:09
Hrontoreokay i have the wine package, how do i install it?04:09
muuhBDXiand only fi it didnt find engh ram would it run has ususal04:09
matsavhalevHrontore: why not just sudo apt-get install wine?04:09
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waylandbillHrontore: dpkg -i, but it's in apt04:09
FringeJacketwaylandbill yeah, unfortunately its not a divider too04:09
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Hrontorelol, close adept, open apt...04:10
waylandbillFringeJacket: the answer still is to look in beryl options to remove options that require multiple desktops04:10
Hrontoreokay its installed how do i get to it?04:11
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FringeJacketwaylandbill I have it at 1 on there, what options are requiring multiple desktops besides that?04:11
Hrontorehow do i run wine, add it to the gui?04:13
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abattoirHrontore: wine <file.exe> in a command line04:13
Jucato!wine04:14
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:14
abattoirHrontore: windows applications installed through wine generally appear in the menu04:14
waylandbillFringeJacket: I don't know off hand. I did notice that having 1 there didn't make it 1. You'd think that if that was 1, then all the options that required multiple desktops just would be disabled. But remember it's early in development04:14
SJBhi, how can i shutdown the xserver? Ctrl-Alt-Backspace restarts it every time04:14
waylandbillSJB: /etc/init.d/kdm stop04:14
muuhBDXican i run WoW in wine ?04:15
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CuBoneIf you use cedega wow plays fine.04:15
muuhBDXicedega is non-free04:15
CuBoneunfortuantly yes04:16
FringeJacketwaylandbill right, I forgot about that...   I guess I'll play wround with it til I figure it out04:16
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Jucato!cedega04:16
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega04:16
muuhBDXiis there a torrent with cedega ?04:16
Jucatocedega cvs is free04:17
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muuhBDXicedega breaks the gpl04:17
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waylandbillSJB: Technically speaking, Ctrl-Alt-BS is stopping the Xserver. KDM is just starting it back up. But I know you mean shut it down for good. :-)04:18
muuhBDXigpl says you have to submit the code changes you make under gpl04:18
muuhBDXiso cedega is breaking the gpl04:18
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muuhBDXiis wine gpled ?04:18
SJB[16:17:53]  <waylandbill> SJB: /etc/init.d/kdm stop <- frozen, i see the Kubuntu Logo and a frozen bar04:18
waylandbillSJB: switch to VT1 Ctrl-Alt-F104:19
MarkCmuuhBDXi: i guess so.04:19
LynouremuuhBDXi: they do not give the source to their users if they ask? (anyway, more #ubuntu-offtopic matter than a support issue)04:19
MarkCcedega is the proprietary gaming version of wine04:19
JucatomuuhBDXi: please visit their webpages for more information04:19
Jucato!offtopic04:19
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:19
SJBwhile its frozen or before i kill it? ;-)04:19
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waylandbillSJB: actually, you should've used a VT to stop kdm and not a konsole window04:20
muuhBDXicedega used to be free04:20
muuhBDXibefore it changed name04:20
MarkCmuuhBDXi: it still is last time i heard, but you have to compile it :)04:21
SJBah k04:21
chavomuuhBDXi, cedega doesn't break the gpl the source code is available04:21
waylandbilldoesn't cedega cvs have the source?04:21
muuhBDXiany one has cedega compiled ?04:21
chavoyes but it doesn't include a couple of feautures04:22
muuhBDXicedega cvs is from older version and dosent compile i bet04:22
chavogo to the transgaming site04:22
MarkCi dont have to, i can play wc3 in wine already :)04:22
MarkCthey did good work on that one04:22
chavowine's directx layer has come a long way recently04:22
Hrontorehow do i list dir?04:24
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waylandbillchavo: is it DX9 compatible yet?04:24
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hattais there still a big difference between wine and winex04:24
slyfoxWhere do I submit a bug report for Kubuntu ?04:25
chavowaylandbill, it supports some d9 stuff sure, but not 100%04:25
chavo!bug04:25
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots04:25
|lostbyte|hatta, yes there, is..04:25
hattawinex is still more capable?04:25
chavowinex is cedega before they changed the name04:25
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|lostbyte|Hrontore, ls ?04:26
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Hrontorethnx04:27
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SJBehhh nothing happens at Ctrl-Alt-F1, sorry im very new to linux :D04:33
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cadkinshe.  just got here.  kindda new to IRC but what's going on?04:35
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Vincent_kwhat does this mean?!??  in.tftpd[6008] tftpd: oack: Operation not permitted04:36
BluesKajcadkins, we're waiting :)04:36
Vincent_kI have googled and googled but find nothing04:36
BluesKajwhat were you trying to do , Vincent_k04:36
Vincent_kI'm trying to netboot a box04:36
Vincent_kI have dhcp3 server running and working fine and tftpd-hpa running04:37
Vincent_kthe client gets an ip just fine but when trying to cennect to tftp that msg pops up in syslog04:37
jernejthis works04:38
jernejis this on freenode?04:38
BluesKajthat's beyond my experience and scope ...i can barely keep samba running on my home network :004:38
BluesKajjernej, yes it is04:38
Vincent_kI have given up on samba ;)04:38
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jernejthen why i can't see myself with a windows machine?04:38
BluesKajI've received a lot of help with it here04:39
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BluesKajwhat irc client are you using , jernej ?04:39
jernejxchat on windows and i'm trying ubuntu, so i'm suing konversation04:40
alexiconirssi ftw!!04:40
alexiconoh gui irc?04:40
alexiconkopete is fine.. keeps everything in one place anyway04:40
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BluesKajkonversation is good , so what's the problem jernej?04:40
jernejnothing..04:40
jerneji'm with windows machine in this channel on freenode network04:40
jernejbut it isn't same thing04:40
BluesKajyou said Quote "why i can't see myself with a windows machine?"04:41
jernejoh that's #ubuntu, silly me04:41
jernej:x04:42
BluesKajthis is a #Kubuntu chat04:42
rockprincesshello! i have a problem, after rebooting i get the following error "failed to start X Server (your graphical interface)" ... i already tried to reconfigure the X server by sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:42
SJBhow i can switch to VT1? nothing happens at Ctrl+Alt+F104:42
BluesKajrockprincess, F7 ?04:43
fdovingSJB: 'chvt 1'04:43
BluesKajsame SJB04:43
rockprincessBluesKaj: you mean i should press F7?04:43
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BluesKajyes04:43
fdovingVincent_k: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/416872.html04:44
BluesKajwhat happens?04:44
BluesKajctrl+alt+F704:44
SJBnothing04:45
weathermanby chance does anybody remember howto print the partition table in msdos?04:45
SJBand chvt 1 says there is no description for the consolo04:46
rockprincessBluesKaj: i just loaded GRUB and found out there are 2 different kernels: ubuntu kernel 2.6.17-10-386 and ubuntu kernel 2.6.17-11-18604:46
rockprincessBluesKaj: i just loaded GRUB and found out there are 2 different kernels: ubuntu kernel 2.6.17-10-386 and ubuntu kernel 2.6.17-11-38604:46
rockprincessupps typo04:46
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jernejhi04:47
BluesKajwhichever one works is the one to choose . i guess :)04:47
jerneji got this program in a .tar file04:47
jernejhow do i install it?04:47
jernejoh wait nvm04:48
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rockprincessBluesKaj: i think it's mainly a NVIDIA issue....i installed Easyubuntu and it installed an NVIDIA driver...and after rebooting i cant seem to start the xserver anymore :(04:49
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cadkins@rockprincess : i have the same thing.  I've tried both and both boot to my desktop just fine.04:50
BluesKajfdoving, .. rockprincess needs you ! :)04:50
eeoshi there. anybody who has installed ecplise on kubuntu 6.10, making it work using all ope source java packages?04:50
rockprincesscadkins: how did you fix it then?04:50
SJB:( shut just want to shutdown the xserver04:51
SJB-shut04:51
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cadkinsrockprincess :  i didn't just left it.  I have a big episond with the install.04:51
cadkinshttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=13937.004:51
alexiconyeah eeos i have eclipse in kubuntu04:51
alexiconits on apt04:51
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alexiconwhat java packages are you trying to use anyway04:52
eeosalexicon php eclipse04:52
eeosalexicon but I would like to use all open source packages04:52
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waylandbillSJB: what about other VTs? can you get to VT2 for instance?04:53
alexiconthink its initial install is open source.. its only stuff you addon after wards tht might not be04:53
alexiconi dont quite understand what your issue is04:53
SJBwhen you say me how, im a newb ;-)04:53
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waylandbillCtrl-Alt-F204:53
cobros02HELLO04:53
eeosalexicon when you install eclipse, you tend to install java as well, which is not open source04:53
cecko_Hi boys and girls, where is the /etc/hotplug/usb folder in Edgy, please?04:54
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rockprincessBluesKaj: ctrl + alt F7 didn't do anything really..04:54
eeosalexicon unless you use one of the open source implementations04:54
eeosalexicon which do not have the same funcionalities of full closed source java04:54
waylandbillSJB: just so you know, X is usually running on VT7 in case you need to get back.04:54
BluesKajit would be nice to get FF to play the wm (mozilla mplayerplugin) videos in this URL but for some reason it won't ...konqueror plays the video with no prob ...04:54
eeosalexicon so I wanted to know it worked with the open source implementations of java04:55
alexiconoh i see04:55
alexiconnever tried sorry04:55
alexicontime for me to go home04:55
BluesKajsorry rockprincess , that's kinda out of my knowledgebase :(04:55
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SJBnothing happens at Ctrl+Alt+F1 - F7 does nothing04:55
waylandbillrockprincess: can't get X to come up? look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log or pastebin it04:55
BluesKajyeah , sorry SJB04:55
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waylandbillSJB: that's odd for sure.04:56
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rockprincesswaylandbill: i can't start the Xserver, and i don't know how to pastebin the Xorg.0.log withouth the GUI to navigate the firefox04:57
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MarkChey, can anybody tell me what package i need to install to integrate firefox with kde?04:57
gdiebelMarkC: in what way?04:57
MarkCi mean to use the qt file management functions, desktop wallpaper support etc.?04:57
SJBi still see the desktop and nothing happens04:58
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waylandbillMarkC: re-write firefox in qt. ;-)04:58
JucatoMarkC: afaik, there's currently no single like that04:58
gdiebelMarkC: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32782804:59
JucatoMarkC: you might be interested in what these pages say: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntegrateFirefoxWithKDE and http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Integrate_Firefox_with_KDE04:59
rockprincesswaylandbill: is there a way i could backup /home without loosing my configurations when i re-install the system?05:00
MarkCwaylandbill: firefox isnt even written in gtk...05:00
MarkCor is it?05:00
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MarkCthanks gdiebel, Jucato!  :-D05:00
JucatoMarkC: on Linux it uses GTK05:00
KiPSeRoN!live cd05:01
ubotuUbuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.05:01
SJBi just want to install the dumb graphic card driver05:01
KiPSeRoN!my live cd05:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about my live cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:01
KiPSeRoN!livecd05:01
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waylandbillrockprincess: if /home is on the same partition as /, then you'll have to back it up or copy it somewhere else (if you plan to reformat / on re-install)05:02
Tuumbado u know anyone how to install a tv card to my ubuntu 6.06 ?05:02
waylandbillrockprincess: that's why I make / on one partition and /home on another.05:02
frojnd!docs05:02
ubotudocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com05:02
Jucato!tvcard05:02
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tvcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:02
rockprincesswaylandbill: i think i've separated them on two partitions / being on one, and /home being on the other one05:03
Tuumbaits analog - not digital..05:03
Tuumbai need a program and a driver for it :(05:03
rockprincesswaylandbill: i've used gparted to formate my harddisk and then installed kubuntu05:03
waylandbillrockprincess: ok. when you re-install, set the /home mount point as necessary and double check and triple check that you tell it NOT to format /home.05:04
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rockprincesswaylandbill: good idea, thanks ;)05:04
Vincent_k!netboot05:04
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues05:04
SJBthx for helping...05:04
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waylandbillrockprincess: but formatting the / partition should be okay.05:04
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andy__can anyone tell me if the repo's are the same for 64bit as 32 bit kubuntu?05:05
fdovingthey are.05:06
andy__am having some nightmares.. :(05:06
BluesKajnope05:06
BluesKajsome aren't05:06
fdovingthe official ones are.05:06
Tuumbaanybody dont know ??05:07
andy__and the univers/multivers?05:07
LynoureTuumba: it would help if you would tell them which tv card it is05:07
Jucato!mythtv05:08
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV05:08
Tuumbajust a min plz...05:08
BluesKajwhat is the function of : autom4te.cache ?05:08
JucatoTuumba: ^^^05:08
Tuumbagot it05:08
fdovingBluesKaj: http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf-2.57/html_node/autoconf_180.html05:08
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Tuumbala conte deluxe ( it has philips chipset )05:09
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BluesKajthx fdoving05:10
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Tuumbais mythTV a ubuntu relase ?05:11
BluesKajno05:12
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bonbonthejonTuumba: its not specifically for ubuntu, but it works great with kubuntu, I use it at home05:14
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cadkinscan anyone give me some info on getting Kubuntu seeing the front USB connections?05:15
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bonbonthejoncadkins: what do you mean?05:16
BluesKajcan ppl using Firefox check this site for me pls ...video won't play with the plugins I have in FF ( including the mplayerplugin - the site claims that it uses windows media ) ...konqueror does the video just fine  : http://www.cbc.ca/video/05:16
bonbonthejoncadkins: kubuntu should be able to see then, unless the bios can't see them05:17
bonbonthejoncadkins: try lsusb to see the ports and things plugged in05:17
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gorgonizereeos: would you have ADSL from The Phone Co-op??05:17
gorgonizerAre the front USB prots attached to the motherboard???05:17
gorgonizer*ports...05:17
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cadkinsi have 4 USB connections on my Dell.   When I plug into those, nothig happens.  When I plug in to the back, Kubuntu sees the USB stick fine05:19
BluesKajcadkins , did you check storage media in the suystem menu05:20
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Jucatocadkins: looks like the USB at the front are not connected to the motherboard05:20
cadkins@Blues Kaj : yeah nothing there05:20
cadkinsJucato, I don't think they are.05:20
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BluesKajcadkins, do they work in windows ?05:21
JucatoIf they're not connected, no OS in the world will be able to make anything happen :D05:21
Jucato(unless that OS can magically connect disconnected wires...05:21
Jucato)05:21
BluesKajhehe05:21
cadkinsoh...LOL  Well I guess they are then.  They work under windows05:21
Jucatohm... they should work the same as the ones at the back...05:22
Jucato(afaik... mine are disconnected... stupid case...)05:22
BluesKajyeah the front usbs work fine on my Compaq05:23
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BluesKajas do the card readers05:24
cadkinshmmm..well, I'll give it a go again when I get home this evening.  Maybe I just wasn't patient enough which is usally the case05:25
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cadkinsit's a crazy computer anyway.  Windows had to have a driver to load the SATA drive!!05:25
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BluesKajJucato, check this site for me pls ...video won't play with the plugins I have in FF ( including the mplayerplugin - the site claims that it uses windows media ) ...konqueror does the video just fine  : http://www.cbc.ca/video/05:25
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JucatoBluesKaj: I don't have firefox plugins. sorry05:26
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BluesKajok, np05:26
JucatoBluesKaj: you have mozilla-mplayer right?05:26
Jucatohave you tried the other mozilla plugins?05:26
BluesKajworks ok in konq ...would you beleive that ?05:26
JucatoBluesKaj: what is konq using to play the video?05:27
BluesKajyes mozilla mplayerplugin05:27
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BluesKajdunno , how can i tell ?05:27
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BluesKajkmplayer/xine_config05:29
BluesKajopened it with konq in the terminal05:29
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HrontorelibGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b05:30
Hrontore?05:30
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spawn57how would I check if a card reader that's built into the notebook works with linux?05:34
enno_download a copy of knoppix05:34
julle_How do i empty the trash in kubuntu?05:34
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KaoticEvilanyone free to lend a hand?05:35
enno_julle, klick on the icon in the kde bar and choose the button05:35
enno_sth like clear trash05:35
julle_enno_: but i dont see my trashcan05:36
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Tuumbadoesnt anyone know how to setup my tv card ???05:36
meta-morph-OSa guy in #SUSE keeps asking us ubuntu questions..will someone plz comeover and help him05:36
enno_than make a right klick on the kde bar and choose add mini-program05:36
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enno_then search for the trash bin05:37
julle_ok05:37
julle_thx05:37
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enno_;-)05:37
VonKrolokHello guys, I'm sorry to interrupt, I'm a Windows user about to be Converted to the real OS05:37
VonKrolokI was looking for some info if you can help05:37
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Ash-FoxVonKrolok, go ahead.05:37
KaoticEvilim having some problems with a wireless connection05:38
VonKrolokfirst off: I'm a photoshop user, can I use photoshop on Linux expressively Kubuntu?05:38
Ash-FoxKaoticEvil, such as?05:38
hyper_chVonKrolok: depends :)05:38
cadkinsVonKrolok : you can use Wine to install PS7.  I run it just fine05:38
VonKrolokwhat do you mean Hyper?05:38
KaoticEvilAsh-Fox: well, XP and Vista will both connect to my wireless router05:38
Tuumbai think ubuntu doesnt support tv cards :S05:38
KaoticEvilKubuntu Dapper, however, will not05:39
cadkinsCS and CS2 do not install05:39
hattasure it does, depending on the card05:39
Ash-FoxVonKrolok, depends on the version. http://appdb.winehq.org/ contains more information on which photoshop versions are supported and how well they're supported under wine05:39
waylandbillVonKrolok: another option is gimp05:39
hattamy geforce4mx440 tvout works just fine05:39
Tuumbatv cardss05:39
hattaand my hauppage wintv capture card works just fine too05:39
hyper_chVonKrolok: either run it through wine (or crossover office)... however that  did not work for me all too well... alternatively you could use some vm software to run a virtual windows05:39
Ash-FoxVonKrolok, another option is Krita, which has a similar interface to photoshop05:39
frojndhow can I instal USB Bluetooth adapter05:39
Tuumbahow u did it05:39
KaoticEvilmy Radeon VE used to work just fine too, btw :)05:39
VonKrolokI know of Gimp, but being used to photoshop workflow it's quite hard to change on the go05:39
Tuumbai m new on ubuntu05:39
Tuumbajust trying set up it05:40
hyper_chor there is a photoshop layout addon for gimp.. that makes the interface just look like photoshop05:40
hattaTuumba, I googled for howtows05:40
VonKrolokKrita...will take a note of that05:40
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waylandbillVonKrolok: pratice makes perfect. :-)05:40
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VonKroloktell me about it wayland...05:40
cadkinsVonKrolok : I could never get used to Gimp.  Just couldn't do it.05:40
Ash-FoxKaoticEvil, close the wireless manager, do sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop, then open up the wireless manager and see if it works05:40
Tuumbahatta what is ur nation ?05:40
hattaUS05:40
Tuumbai see ok...05:40
johnf_Is there a difference between running Kubuntu and installing KDE on Ubuntu?  Not really sure what Kubuntu05:41
VonKroloknext off: can I install Kubuntu on an NTFS partition? I mean Edgy Eft05:41
hyper_chjohnf_: yes there is05:41
VonKrolokI know the drivers just came out05:41
Ash-Foxjohnf_, yes, kubuntu is presetup with kubuntu-desktop, not the kde meta package05:41
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hattahyper_ch, there is?05:41
hyper_chVonKrolok: you can't install it on a ntfs partition05:41
hattawhat is it?05:41
KaoticEvilAsh-Fox: it detects the wireless network, and i can have it attempt to connect05:42
Ash-FoxVonKrolok, nope.05:42
cadkinsVonKrolok : NTFS does not exist in Linux.  It will rewrite teh partition to extf3 I think05:42
cadkinsIt can see the partition though05:42
KaoticEvilbut it always says "Connection Failed:05:42
Ash-FoxKaoticEvil, did you do what I said?05:42
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hyper_chhatta: kubuntu has kde nicely integrated and it looks nice when yu boot up... also default installed programs are different in kubuntu than when you have an ubuntu and add kubuntu-desktop or kde itself05:42
VonKrolokok, so the file system is unique, nothing to do with FAT3205:42
hattaas I understood it, kubuntu was just ubuntu without ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop instead05:42
KaoticEvildoing it now05:42
Ash-FoxVonKrolok, generally more reliable/faster than NTFS/FAT3205:43
cadkinsVonKrolok : yes05:43
hyper_chVonKrolok: you can't install it on fat32 either I think... as fat32 won't allow file permissions as does ext2/305:43
VonKrolokok, I was not comparing, knowing just them two I know nothing of the around situation05:43
Ash-FoxUnlike windows, you won't the previous version of a file that's been locked for writing too on NTFS, and you won't randomly lose files if you reset/crash/poweroff like in fat3205:43
johnf_thanks here is the issue- I have a client that wants to run some software I developed on Ubuntu but I need KDE. What do you guys suggest I tell him?05:44
hyper_chVonKrolok: however you can use fat32 as a common exchange partiton between your windows and linux install05:44
Ash-Fox*won't lose05:44
VonKrolokI would rather go for NTFS with the new NNTFS drivers05:44
VonKrolokFAT32 is a waste of time05:44
VonKrolokand of files05:44
Ash-Foxjohnf_, do you need just the kdelibs?05:44
hyper_chjohnf_: this client has an ubuntu installed?05:44
waylandbillhatta: the question was difference between ubuntu with KDE and kubuntu. which there is. if they would've asked about kubuntu-desktop it would be different05:44
johnf_I developed the software for KDE not developed on Ubuntu05:44
Ash-Foxjohnf_, what exactly do you need from KDE?05:45
hyper_chVonKrolok: I tend to think the ntfs-3g drivers still as experimental.... you might loos all the data when using those05:45
hattawaylandbill, I don't see your point05:45
KaoticEvilAsh-Fox: it still fails05:45
VonKrolokI see your point Hyper05:45
johnf_Well Yes ON kdelibs (used pykde) but would like KOffice etc too.05:45
hyper_chjohnf_: the easiest thing probably is to have him install the kubuntu-desktop --> in the shell:    sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop05:45
Ash-FoxKaoticEvil, okay, well it's not the network managers conflicting -- what channel is your rotuer on?05:45
KaoticEvil605:46
Ash-FoxKaoticEvil, wep or wpa?05:46
hyper_chjohnf_: that should take care of all necessary kde libs and he should then be able to run the program from the gnome session05:46
KaoticEvilneither05:46
KaoticEvilim running unencrypted05:46
VonKrolokso, if I have a hard drive that has been formatted in one way or another Kubuntu, upon installation will reformat the drive according to its filesystem needs05:46
waylandbillhatta: if I install ubuntu and then apt-get kde, i don't get the same thing as installing ubuntu and apt-get kubuntu-desktop05:46
Ash-Fox... Okay05:46
VonKrolokam I right?05:46
johnf_Great that will work - thanks for the everyone!05:46
hattaoh I see05:46
hyper_chVonKrolok: chances are very, very slim that something will happen... but in case it does then you might loose all data on that ntfs partition :)05:46
Ash-FoxKaoticEvil, tell the wireless manager to forget all the settings, then try connecting again05:46
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KaoticEvili live in the middle of nowhere, this is the only wireless network around here lol05:46
Ash-Foxjohnf_, no don't tell him that05:47
Ash-Foxjohnf_, that will break his system05:47
hyper_chVonKrolok: when installing ubuntu it will ask what diskdrive/partition to use05:47
waylandbillKaoticEvil: with the right equipment, someone can snif wireless up to miles away.05:47
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KaoticEvilit got to "Testing Connection" then failed05:47
Ash-Foxjohnf_, if you just want standard kde, you can install the 'kde' package, but that's a lot of packages05:47
VonKrolokusing some sort of fdisk as far as I can gather05:47
johnf_Really ?  So what do I tell him?05:47
hyper_chVonKrolok: you could resize your ntfs partitions beforehand and then you can let the largest non-partitioned space to be used05:47
hyper_chVonKrolok: or you could manually resize the ntfs partitions during the ubuntu install and set up all on your own05:48
johnf_Sounds like he is better off with Kubuntu RIGHT?05:48
Ash-Foxjohnf_, as I said, if you just want the standard KDE installation, you can tell him to install the 'kde' package. but its' really a lot of packages, what exactly does your program rely on? we can install less packages that way.05:48
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KaoticEvili dont get it... Vista and XP connect just fine05:49
hyper_chVonKrolok: what I did when I first installed linux I used partitionmagic to resize my ntfs partition :) but before resizing you need to defragment it 1-2 times05:49
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Ash-FoxAnyone happen to know of a way in a bash script to determine if a port is open or not?05:50
VonKrolokok, assume I have a laptop with 1 partition NTFS and a winXP pro installed on it05:50
Hrontoreokay quicktime has been running for to long05:50
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VonKrolokI don't care of what's on it05:50
johnf_the prg is an inventory program written in Python using the pyKDE module for several of the interfaces.  Also interfaces to KOffice via DCop05:50
Hrontorei think its just installing over and over05:50
VonKrolokI put in the cd05:50
AluminAsh-Fox: you could use netstat or fuser05:50
VonKrolokand hit the install icon05:50
VonKrolokwhat happens?05:50
Ash-FoxVonKrolok, you get a language prompt, then it asks you what you want todo with your harddrive, if you want to use the entire harddrive, resize your existing partition and install kubuntu etc.05:51
AluminVonKrolok: you'll be prompted to repartition I'd asume05:51
hyper_chVonKrolok: you should care... do you want to dual-boot... meaning having the option of booting into windows or booting into linux at the start?05:51
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VonKrolokI would like to have dual bott yes, so I can have my photoshop on win XP without probs05:52
VonKrolokboot*05:52
Hrontoreokay how do i stop the quicktime installer, its just running over and over05:52
pablo_hi05:52
Hrontorehey05:52
Hrontorewhat up?05:52
hyper_chVonKrolok: ok, then before you install ubuntu or kubuntu or xubuntu or edubuntu I recommend to (1) make backups (2) defragment your harddisk05:53
pablo_ubuntu is the best OS05:53
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Dr_willisdefrag/scandisk - befor resizing is suggested05:53
Dr_willisusing a 2nd dedicated hard drive.. is even better. :)05:53
pablo_yeah05:53
waylandbillhyper_ch: words to live by05:53
Alumindo you guys trust non-native partition tools to resize NTFS?05:54
waylandbillespecially step 105:54
Aluminy'all are braver than I05:54
pablo_gparted05:54
VonKrolokI don't care of what's inside the harddrive05:54
pablo_yeah05:54
Dr_willisAlumin,  i cant say that ive ever seen them trash a system... I have seen partition magic trash stuff... :)05:54
VonKrolokI will mirror it anyway05:54
waylandbillAlumin: I've resized ntfs with Linux partitioning tools many times.05:54
hyper_chAlumin: I have done a couple of times resizing with PartitionMagic and it always worked fine for me... however one of my buddies tried it on his computer and everything got corrupted.... resizing a partition is ALWAYS a risk05:54
Dr_willisbut this is why  it 'pays to backup'05:55
johnf_Thanks all I just finished reading the website and it has all the information I need.05:55
waylandbillno matter what tool you use there is risk.05:55
pablo_do you know haw can I do for speed up internet?05:55
Dr_willispower failure during resize = bad05:55
Hrontorewhen installing windows apps where do i put them?05:55
hyper_chpablo_: is your router IPv6 compatible?05:55
Aluminpartitionmatic I would trust (well, as much as I trust _anything_ to resize NTFS)...those guys actually have support from MS with the filesystem format05:55
Dr_willisHrontore,  you use wine.. and it makes a .wine dir to keep things in.05:55
hyper_chpablo_: if not, then you can deactivate IPv6... that will speed up things05:55
pablo_mmm... i dont know05:55
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hyper_chpablo_: then you could try to disable it05:56
Hrontoreso when it goes to other installations like quick time just okay okay okay05:56
Aluminwhich is interesting considering Dr_willis' experiences :p05:56
pablo_yeah... how can i do it?05:56
Dr_willis>hic< wine05:56
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hyper_chpablo_: google for it... ubuntu disable ipv6 --> that should return something... or then search the ubuntu forum05:57
VonKrolokok, I back up then as far as I'm concerned I can have even a blank disk freshly formatted05:57
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VonKrolokprob still stays05:57
Dr_willisIve had so many problems with Partition magic.. that i dont even use it any more.. (cant afford to anyway)05:57
pablo_thanks.05:57
VonKrolokcan I format with Kubuntu CD?05:57
waylandbillDr_willis: oh yeah. I've had a power failure during a resize before. :-/05:57
Dr_willisthe gparted live cd's seem to work well for me.05:57
pablo_hyper_ch: thanks05:57
hyper_chVonKrolok: yes, you can format with the kubuntu cd... but lets try first dual-booting :)05:57
Hrontoreokay Dr_willis how do i  stop the quicktime installer, its just running05:58
VonKrolokok, go on05:58
hyper_chVonKrolok: ok, now that you have backuped your data... do disk defragmentation on the ntfs drive05:58
hyper_chthat will take some time05:58
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waylandbillI've had problems with partition tragic too. GPartEd livecd does just fine.05:58
Dr_willisHrontore,  if ya can see the window use 'xkill' perhaps.. or pkill wine,  i rarely mess with wine much any more05:58
BluesKajHrontore, exit the terminal05:58
Hrontoredone05:59
Hrontore...05:59
hyper_chVonKrolok: best to run defragmentation 2-3 times05:59
hyper_chit will be much quicker the 2nd and 3rd time05:59
VonKrolokof course05:59
VonKrolokplease carry on05:59
Dr_willisi found it odd one day when i formated a new drive under windows.. and it had 1 file on it that was fraggmented.. (3k file) :)05:59
waylandbill:)06:00
Hrontoreahh, the bars fills goes to zero, then fills again06:00
Hrontoremake the bad man stop!!06:00
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hyper_chVonKrolok: you have the live cd or do you use the alternate one?06:01
VonKrolokLiveCD06:01
VonKrolokbut it takes nothing to get the other06:01
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hyper_chVonKrolok: I tend to think the install is smoother with the alternate cd... do you have two pcs?06:02
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VonKrolokas a matter of fact I have 306:02
hyper_chgood :) well then get the alternate one... it's better for install... the live cd sometimes has a few problems06:03
Dr_willisi agree there.. alt-cd install seems to work better06:03
VonKrolokno prob06:03
hyper_ch(although I have to add, the first time I installed from the live-cd I had no problems either....)06:04
VonKrolokif it's prooven smoother I have no prob in getting the other CD with a 2Mbit connection ;)06:04
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hyper_chVonKrolok: also upload 2mbit?06:04
VonKrolokunfortunately not06:05
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hyper_chVonKrolok: same here... 1 mbit download... 250kbit upload06:05
VonKrolokanyway, lets get back to business06:05
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VonKrolokas I start the installation in the free partition everything should go smoothly06:06
VonKrolokasking if I want to install a boot menu06:06
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VonKrolokam I missing something?06:06
hyper_chVonKrolok: well, just go ahead until you are at the partition thingy.... there you then select manual partitioning or setup... I don't remember what exactely it was called06:07
hyper_chVonKrolok: from there we can help again06:07
VonKrolokthat was a drill man, I'm not installing it now06:07
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VonKrolokI'm moving out of my appartment, as soon as I settle in the new I'll sort it out06:07
VonKrolokbut I appreciate your dedication ;)06:08
hyper_chwell, upon the partition menu select "manually2 or something similar06:08
VonKrolokI wanted to make up my mind on how it works06:08
hyper_chthen you first have to resize your current one06:08
hyper_chonce that is done you can then create new ones06:08
hyper_chrecommended is a swap partition (type: swap) with about the double size of your ram06:09
VonKrolokuse of which?06:09
hyper_chthen a "root" partition (type "ext3" and mounting point "/") which should be at least 5gb... I prefer 10GB myself06:09
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hyper_chand thrid I would create a "home" partition (type "ext3" and mountin point "/home") --> make this as big as you want... this is where your "Documents and Settings" are being stored06:10
hyper_chto say it in windows terms :)06:10
hyper_chit's very good to have that as an own partition :)06:10
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hyper_chVonKrolok: what do you mean "use of which"?06:10
VonKrolokthe use of the swap partition and which filesystem it should have?06:11
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VonKrolokwhat is the use of a swap partition and which file system shall I use?06:12
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hyper_chVonKrolok: use filesystem "swap" for the swap... this is the virtual ram...06:13
hyper_chVonKrolok: in windows it's that big huge file in c:\06:14
VonKrolokpage file...06:14
hyper_chpagesys or something06:14
VonKroloki got it now06:14
hyper_chin linux you have it on an own partition06:14
VonKrolokkeep it safe uh ;)06:14
Alzi2Hi everyone. I was wondering how i could split my harddisk so that my home directory is on a seperate partition, to make things run faster. It's not the case now. The thing i need help with is.... read the text i just gave you!06:14
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jhutchinsVonKrolok: The swap partition increases your effective memory; you usually don't need to format it, just mark it as swap.06:14
jhutchinsVonKrolok: If you need to format it, the program is "mkswap".06:15
VonKrolokI know, virtual memory on fisical06:15
VonKroloksmashing ;)06:15
jhutchinsVonKrolok: Make it approximately 2x your physical RAM up to 2G.06:15
VonKrolokyeah, I got that06:15
jhutchinsVonKrolok: It's also possible to use a swap file instead.06:15
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VonKrolokbut I guess a dedicated partition is better06:16
jhutchinsAlzi2: It won't run any faster that way.06:16
waylandbillAlzi2: create a parition for home and mount it as such.06:16
jhutchinsAlzi2: The main thing about a seperate home is that you can change the rest of the linux system without changing your own data.06:16
jhutchinsAlzi2: Unfortunately, the hidden config files can cause serious problems if you do that.06:16
jhutchinsAlzi2: I recommend using a single partition unless you have seperate drives.06:17
jhutchinsAlzi2: That way all of your space is available to whatever you need it for.06:17
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waylandbillChanging the distro can cause problems with a seperate home, but clean installing the same distro does great with seperate home.06:18
linracoonits imposible to install kubuntu-ppc 6.0206:18
linracoonany help?06:18
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linracoonwhen i enter startx gives error06:18
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Alzi2jhutchins: Hmm... how to get things to run faster, then? i'm trying to optimise my pc because it has gotten fairly slow06:19
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hyper_chlinracoon: what error?06:19
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jhutchinsAlzi2: Simplify your window manager.  Turn off effects and toys, remove applets from the system tray.  Run a simpler window manager like xfce.06:20
jhutchinsAlzi2: Add more RAM.06:20
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Alzi2jhutchins: So i have to say goodbye to KDE? why?06:20
waylandbillfaster CPU. :-)06:20
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jhutchinsAlzi2: You don't have to, but if you want speed you have to trade something.06:21
Alzi2hmm........ but that means i have to switch my desktop environment YET AGAIN and i'm tired of that...06:21
waylandbillAlzi2: turn off all the services you don't need running all the time.06:21
hyper_chAlzi2: what computer specs do you have?06:21
jhutchinsThen don't, just turn off services, effects.06:21
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Alzi2because, i was once bored of XFCE and decided to try KDE, then GNOME, then KDE, then XFCE, and so on.06:21
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jhutchinsAlzi2: KDE does use more resources, especially if you have things like transparency and animations enabled.06:22
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waylandbillfeatures always come at a cost.06:22
jhutchinsAlzi2: On the other hand, KDE uses more shared code than any other system, so if you use all KDE apps, it's more efficient over all.06:22
Alzi2hyper_ch: Motherboard: PCchips M811LU with 8xAGP 5xPCI 6xUSB2.0 and CNR. CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2800+. Memory: 512MB RAM. Harddisk: Maxtor 80GB 7200RPM. Videocard: ATI Radeon 9250SE.06:22
jhutchinsTo quote the original Mad Max, "Speed costs money.  How fast do you want to go?".06:22
waylandbillAlzi2: sounds like my home system. It moves along pretty nicely.06:23
hyper_chAlzi2: you have 3d running for your ati card?06:23
jhutchinsMine's about the same, runs as fast as I need.06:23
Alzi2hyper_ch: open-source radeon driver, aiglx disabled06:23
jhutchinsAlzi2: Where are you trying to get more speed?06:23
Dr_willismore ram would help.06:24
Alzi2jhutchins: Overall computer performance (happens in Windows too), harddisk and application startup. Menu's and desktop switching06:24
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Dr_willismore ram always helps. :)06:24
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jhutchinsAlzi2: Wow.  I don't see any significant lag in any of that here, and I've got a slower processor.06:24
Alzi2I am not willing to spend any money because i don't have that.06:24
jhutchinsAlzi2: About the only thing you can do is to get a faster disk then.06:25
Dr_willisive ran kde on similer systems.. but with more ram.. no issues.06:25
Alzi2jhutchins: This computer has the strange habit to become slower and slower after more and more use. Rebooting doesn't help. It just gets slower and slower every time you use it06:25
jhutchinsAlzi2: Get a 10k, or go with _physical_, not software, RAID.06:25
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jhutchinsAlzi2: How much free disk space?06:25
Alzi2jhutchins: Filesystem is EXT3.06:25
Alzi2jhutchins: 42% in use of /dev/hda2:mountpoint /06:25
jhutchinsAlzi2: Could be you have a thermal problem.  Install the lmsensors package.06:25
Dr_willishe may not have DMA enabled for some reason also.06:26
Alzi2jhutchins: Package lmsensors not found06:26
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Alzi2/dev/hda:06:27
Alzi2 Timing buffered disk reads:  120 MB in  3.12 seconds =  38.52 MB/sec06:27
Alzi2/dev/hda:06:28
Alzi2 using_dma    =  1 (on)06:28
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MarkCwhat app do i get if i want to edit pdf files?06:30
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Dr_willishmm  Timing buffered disk reads:   46 MB in  0.84 seconds =  54.89 MB/sec06:30
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Dr_willisthats on my sata drive06:30
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Dr_willischeap upgrade = more ram.06:30
HeavenquakeI want to rip an audio CD. It complains about no encoder. How do I get one? I would like to rip as FLAC06:31
Dr_willisHeavenquake,  fire up the package manager and install some.06:31
Dr_willis!find flac06:31
ubotuFound: flac, libflac++-dev, libflac++5c2, libflac-dev, libflac-doc (and 12 others)06:31
hyper_chDr_willis: how do you get that disk drive data?06:31
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Dr_willishybrid,  sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda106:31
Dr_willisi think the sudo is needed.. not sure06:31
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Alzi2!lmsensors06:32
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto06:32
hyper_chDr_willis: thx :)06:33
bxnpgood somebody check this picture out, and point me a solutrion for my redrawing problem for my windows decoration http://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/garba.png06:33
Hrontorejust so im clear, i dont need to change any of the file settings when installing with wine?06:33
Dr_willisHrontore,  installing what with wine?06:33
Dr_willisand what filesettings?06:33
Hrontoreitunesetup.exe06:33
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Alzi2jhutchins: Does it help choosing another filesystem?06:34
Dr_williswine itunesetup.exe and keep hitting 'next' i guess.06:34
bxnpwhat about itumessetup.exe Hrontore06:34
Hrontoreits installes the ipod drivers, quicktime and itunes06:34
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Dr_willisgood luck :) you may need it.06:34
bxnpdid you read the story from surgy06:34
Hrontoreill take it06:34
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waylandbillor run amarok or gtkpod06:34
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bxnpHrontore: http://www.postproductie.nl/?p=906:35
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Alzi2jhutchins: CPU temperature is 40 degrees06:36
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hyper_chAlzi2: celsius? fahrenheit?06:37
Alzi2hyper_ch: celsius06:37
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bxnpanybody know a solution for my decoration drawing problem06:41
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Lynx-Is there any panel applet in KDE that would show network traffic status?06:42
Zapttons!06:43
jhutchinsAlzi2: Check the temps when you first star up, then when you notice the slow-down.  Might be other than CPU.06:43
Zaptl06:43
ZaptLynx-: Use Superkaramba with Aero06:43
bxnpyes06:43
bxnpLynx-:06:43
bxnpinstall knemo06:43
bxnpit looks nice06:43
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bxnpand works good06:43
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Lynx-ok, I shall try both of them, thanks06:43
bxnpand you can configure it for different interfaces06:43
bxnphttp://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1295606:44
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Alzi2Is it worth switching to Xfce?06:44
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ZaptAlzi2: Depends on the things you want to do06:45
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ZaptIf you have an old machine, maybe yes06:45
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NotFaintHi... busy in here?06:45
bxnpLynx-: http://www.postproductie.nl/burningman/garba.png take a look at the icon next to the clock on top that is knemo Lynx-06:45
Lynx-mm06:45
Lynx-It's not actually the thing I'm looking for06:46
NotFaintI wondered if anyone might be able to answer some questions I have about QTPartEd I'm running off the Kubuntu live-CD.06:46
Lynx-I want to see some kind of graph built-in in the panel06:46
bxnpoh ke06:46
Alzi2Zapt: It's kind of old, but not too old. Specs are:06:46
Alzi2Motherboard: PCchips M811LU with 8xAGP 5xPCI 6xUSB2.0 and CNR. CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2800+. Memory: 512MB RAM. Harddisk: Maxtor 80GB 7200RPM. Videocard: ATI Radeon 9250SE.06:46
HeavenquakeNotFaint: ask and you'll get an answer if anyone knows the answer06:46
ZaptKDE is fine06:47
Zaptno need to switch06:47
NotFaintHQ: Just making sure you aren't a bunch of idling bastards first. :P06:47
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NotFaintOK, I've got two partitions, and I want to merge them. I've got data on the latter partition, though. They're both in the extended partition. I got it to let me shrink the latter partition so that I could increase the size of the first, but it won't let me move the latter partition to the end of the drive so that I CAN expand the first partition.06:48
NotFaintI right click the partition in the list, and the "move" option is grayed-out.06:48
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NotFaintI would try moving the contents of the second partition into the first, but the first is full (hence why I want to merge them).06:49
Alzi2Zapt: But everything is kind of slow.06:50
Zaptkind of slow?06:50
Alzi2Zapt: Yeah.06:50
Zaptdescribe it06:50
tjzcan anyone help me install flash06:50
Alzi2Applications start up slowly, the menu's show up slowly, everything feels less responsive, files load slowly..06:50
tjzit keeps breaking06:50
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NotFaintI was thinking maybe it might let me do it if I were logged in as root or whatever (I'm completely new to anything Linux here), but Kubuntu wants a password for that. Blank, "password," and "kubuntu" didn't work. Heh.06:51
NotFaint(This is off of a live-CD, again.)06:51
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ZaptAlzi2: was it slow from the beginning?06:52
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Alzi2Zapt: No.06:52
Zaptso something changed... ;)06:53
Alzi2Yes.06:53
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Alzi2I remember it happened after i installed beryl and enabled aiglx, and then disabled it again.06:53
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Zapthmm so that's the problem06:54
Zaptyup beryl06:54
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Zaptis still very alpha06:54
Zaptthere's probably still some things that shouldn't be there06:55
Zaptgotta go06:55
Alzi2yeah, i think that's the problem. So THAT's why it slowed down after a few months after install.. i installed Beryl!06:55
Alzi2how to fix that?06:55
Alzi2wait, please fix my problem :P06:55
Zapthmm difficult question06:55
Zaptreinstall?06:55
Alzi2NOT AGAIN!!!!06:55
Zaptyou probably made a second partition with your home directory?06:55
Alzi2no06:55
Zaptok, do that06:56
Zaptbecause then you can use it after every install and everything works as usual06:56
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Alzi2how?06:56
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NotFaintHas anybody here messed with QTPartEd?06:56
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KaoticEvilAsh-Fox: i got it to connect :)06:56
Dr_willisqtparted is very handy.06:56
ZaptNotFaint: Yes06:56
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NotFaintDr_willis: I'm sure it would be -- could I pick your brain?06:57
ZaptAlzi2: When installing you are asked to create partitions06:57
Zaptthat's the time when to add it06:57
Alzi2but..06:57
Dr_willis!ask06:57
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:57
Dr_willis:)06:57
Alzi2i don't want to lose my files.06:57
Zaptyes06:57
Dr_willisbackup backup and backup some more.06:57
Alzi2so, is there a way to seperate em right now?06:57
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Zaptyou can back them up06:57
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Alzi2Dr_willis: No place to backup to, no thing to backup with.06:57
Zaptright now, yes but not easy for a beginner06:57
Alzi2Zapt: I kinda know my way around the Linux command line.06:58
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NotFaintDr_willis: Could you send me a /msg here? I can't handle all the text here rolling by.06:58
Alzi2and Linux overall06:58
NotFaint(and I'm not registered so I can't send to you)06:58
KaoticEvilthere, thats so much better :)06:58
Heavenquakewhich packages is required to compile most programs from source?06:58
Zapthttp://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/70239-mounting-home-after-installing.html06:58
Alzi2thanks Zapt :)06:59
Alzi2one more question06:59
Alzi2how to make the install not overwrite the home partition?06:59
Zaptyou need to create a new partition06:59
Zaptext3 or whatever06:59
Zaptthen copy everything from home over there06:59
Dr_willisNotFaint,  why not register then? I have to leave for work soon.. have you even asked an actual question?06:59
Zaptand mount it as the home partition06:59
Alzi2ok07:00
ZaptAlzi2: got icq or jabber?07:00
Alzi2yes07:00
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Zaptnumber?07:00
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Alzi2i have a Jabber and MSN07:00
Zaptok jabber then07:00
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antonhello everyone07:00
NotFaintDr: Yes, I have, but it was paragraphs long, and it went by everyone.07:00
antoni login to kdm using winbind and then execute 'who' (without the quotation marks of course) and don't notice myself in the output07:00
antonhow can i get kdm and winbind to work so that they add me to whatever 'who' uses to display who is logged in?07:00
antonworse still, even local users aren't printed in the output of 'who'07:00
antonditto for s/who/w/g07:00
Dr_willisNotFaint,  the 'sudo' password is the first users password07:01
Alzi2Zapt: robinl107:01
NotFaintDr: I'm on a live-cd, I haven't set a password. Is there a default?07:01
Zapt@ what?07:01
Dr_willisor did i mussread... scrollingup07:01
Dr_willisNotFaint,  i go to the consoles and set the root users password.. i rarely use the kubuntu livecd.07:02
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ZaptAlzi2: need the part after the @07:02
Dr_willisNotFaint,  i would advise BACKING up your data... if you are doing such complex things as 'merging' 2 partitions07:02
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Alzi2Zapt: robinl1@jabber.xs4all.nl07:02
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NotFaintDr: Backup schmackup... :P It's not mine, and if it fucks up, I'll tell the person that I had to do it that way and make up some excuse!07:02
Zaptok07:02
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Dr_willisNotFaint,  but the way you are descibing it - you got partition #1 - thats empty? and #2 thats got stuff on it..07:03
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Dr_willisNotFaint,  is that correct?07:03
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NotFaintDr: Primary partition [5GB NTFS, then 13ish GB NTFS set active, both are full] ; extended partition [whatever the leftover space is, mostly empty but not completely] 07:04
antonanyones?07:04
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Dr_willis[(5gb) (13gb) ]   [some space left]    Hmm...07:05
Dr_willisYou could paste the 'fdisk -l' output to pastebin :)07:06
NotFaintEh?07:06
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Hrontoreokay is there any way to clean out the wine bin?07:06
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NotFaintHrontore: water07:06
Dr_willisNotFaint,  so what exactly are you tryign todo with this almost-full drive?07:06
Hrontore?07:06
Dr_willisHrontore,  wine   bin?  ya mean the .wine dir? just remove stuff..07:06
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Hrontorei am a noob07:07
Hrontorewhere is the wine.dir?07:07
Dr_willis .wine is in the users home dir07:07
NotFaintWillis: The user filled up their Windows partition and saved almost nothing to their extended partition. Now they're getting a low disk space notification and a lot of slowdown. I need to add some space from the extended partition onto the primary partition.07:07
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Dr_willisNotFaint,  eww.....07:08
NightBirdHrontore: ~/.wine/07:08
NotFaintThere isn't even enough space on the Windows partition for me to move their files from the extended partition (they have about a gig of stuff on there) over.07:08
NotFaintI'm tempted to just tell them they downloaded an insidious virus that did some uh, "time flux capacitor" breaker breaker nine alpha over etc.07:08
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NotFaintBut I'm a spiteful person.07:09
Dr_willisstart uninstalling the useless stuff.. backup to disk.. is about the best bet. Im not sure how well gparted (or evenpartition magic) handles mergind ntfs drives07:09
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NotFaintI'd low-level format their drive in a heartbeat...07:09
NotFaintDr: There's nothing "useless" as far as these folks are concerned.07:09
NotFaintThey like their Limewire and iTunes.07:09
Dr_willistell them to give you $60 and go buy a 250gb hd then...07:09
Dr_willisor just start moving over what you can.07:10
NotFaintAnd when I explain to people why they shouldn't, I tend to accidentally belittle them.07:10
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suporte_g07:10
NotFaintBut I have a lot of free space here I can manipulate with QTPartEd -- if I could figure out what's going wrong.07:10
Dr_willisi dont see where the freespace is at.. thats why i asked for the 'fdisk -l' output on pastebin07:10
NotFaintOh, I'm sorry. The free space is on the extended partition. They have a gig of stuff saved there, but about 50 gigs free.07:11
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Dr_willisYou do realize that with windows you CAN set the 'program files' and other dirs. to be on other partitions? :)07:11
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fiyawerxhey guys, doing a fresh install of kubuntu on top of a fresh windows install for a dual boot.. does this sound about right for a 250g hd? 60 for windows (for gaming mostly), 30 for the install for kubunut, and then the rest as a shared ext2 ?07:12
Dr_willisor ya could just use some shortcuts to the other partition  - let them keep their porn on it.07:12
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fiyawerxor should i give the kubuntu install more space?07:13
raaviA question regarding media codecs, where can I find w32codecs for kubuntu07:13
MarkCfiyawerx: how about 1gb for windows, 200 gb as a shared fat32 and 50gb for kubuntu?07:13
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feindbildhi ^^07:13
fiyawerxheh07:13
fiyawerxMarkC: why fat32 over ext2?07:13
Dr_willisMarkC, there are tools that lets windows read/write to ext2/3 filesystems..07:13
MarkCyou can install the games on the fat32 btw. and it will be fast because you dont need to defrag the 1gb partition07:13
Dr_willisMarkC,  so i dont use fat32 'shared' stuff any more07:13
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fiyawerxhmm07:14
MarkCDr_willis: oh ok. 249gb for kubuntu then :)07:14
Dr_willis1gb for windows would be like real real real tiny07:14
fiyawerxwould that work the same with ext2 then? once i set up the write07:14
fiyawerxwould it be better to install software on the win side to the ext2 drive?07:14
feindbildis it somehow possible to install a vanilla kde on kubuntu without any patches/modifications to the original KDE without compiling it from source myself?07:14
MarkCif you can install the games on the ext3...07:14
Dr_willisi keep a ext3' data' drive for my mp3/videos/shared files07:14
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fiyawerxyou can r/w from windows to ext3 also?07:14
Dr_williswhat is this game fetish? :)07:14
Dr_willisfiyawerx,  yes.07:15
fiyawerxi knew you could with ext207:15
Dr_willisext3 is backwards compatable..07:15
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Dr_willisit uses that feature to read the ext3 stuff07:15
Dr_willisof course if windows crashes while doing stuff to the ext3 partition... well...07:15
MarkCif you can write and run games in ext/2/3/4 then the better, no more defragging for you evar. :)07:15
Dr_willisthats why i just let windows access the 'data' partition.07:15
Shadowtestergreetings07:15
fiyawerxhmm07:16
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fiyawerxok so say.. 10g for windows just to be safe, 50 for K. and the rest as a shared ext?07:16
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Dr_willisdont forget a swap partition.07:16
fiyawerxright07:16
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Dr_willishttp://www.fs-driver.org/07:17
Dr_willisis the tool  i use.07:17
fiyawerxnow i know i _should_ seperate my /home, too.. but eh07:17
Dr_willisi got /home on its own hd.07:17
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RiQcould someone help me with my wlan?07:17
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fiyawerxDr_willis: what would you do in my situation?07:18
fiyawerxbesides get another hd07:18
fiyawerx:)07:18
pixelationI feel dumb, I'll admit it, I'm still a bit of a noob... how do I install flash in konqurer, I tried to search and couldn't find anything, and I'm always busy lately.07:18
Dr_willisfiyawerx,  what you suggested sounds about right.07:18
fiyawerxok, am i losing anything major by not using a seperate /home part?07:19
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MarkCno07:19
Dr_willisfiyawerx,  make them all primary partitions..   [windows]  [shared space]  [linux]  [swap[07:19
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NotFaintWillis: Sorry, had to step away and handle a customer... Yes, I realize you can install program files to other partitions. The customer did not do this, though, and won't in the future. They don't know how.07:19
MarkCyou can always use a folder in the big ext2/3 partition to put your other files and set the user permission to allow only you to access them.07:19
Hrontoreokay, what do i do start wine fresh? reinstall wine?07:20
fiyawerxim the only one on the pc too, no real big deal there07:20
Dr_willisHrontore,  that makes no sence07:20
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NotFaintSo I'm still just looking to use QTPartEd to fix this situation so that their C: is getting all that free space.07:20
Hrontoreokay07:20
Dr_willisHrontore,  wine is just a program.. theres no 'fresh' to it.07:20
fiyawerxwow, a 'fresh' windows media center install - 8 gigs used07:20
fiyawerxhaha07:20
Dr_willisHrontore,  when you install windows apps with wine. they get installed to the .wine dir.07:20
fiyawerxand thats after  add-removing all the extra junk07:20
Hrontorehmm07:20
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Hrontoreerr:rpc:I_RpcReceive we got fault packet with status 0x6be07:21
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holzmodemhow can i make dolphin as the default filemanager07:21
Hrontorei get that trying to install ipodsetup.exe07:21
fiyawerxok, thanks guys, doing the partitioning now, running off the live cd, love the fact that it works with my wireless now out of the box, 6.06 didn't07:21
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Dr_willisholzmodem,  not sure thats doable - ive seen it asked befor.. butno answers.. perhaps the dolphin web site has that in their faq07:21
NotFaintfiyawerx: Damn you, getting it to work for you and I can't :P07:21
fiyawerxNotFaint: :) what kinda card? I'm using a netgear wg311v207:22
pixelationinstalling 32 bit flash in 32 bit konquer? anyone?07:22
Hrontorefor some reason i didnt get the setup all the way through the first time07:22
NotFaintfiyawerx: I meant your partitioning07:22
fiyawerxoh.. well, im just setting it up now, it hasn't *done* it yet07:22
fiyawerxwhat problem do you have/should i watch for?07:22
Hrontorei think that there might be a regestry problem07:22
NotFaintfiyawerx: won't let me scoot the partitions over, move option is grayed out when I right click07:23
holzmodemthere isn't a faq section...07:23
fiyawerxi can't move either, i just did a reszie on the windows one, then I just work my way down creating new ones07:23
Dr_willisfrom the doplhin homepage -->  Dolphin is not intended to be a competitor to Konqueror, the default KDE file manager:07:23
fiyawerxhave to create an extended with all the free space first, after resizing windows tho07:23
NotFaintI thought I read that this is supposed to be a Partition Magic clone... it seems to still be missing functionalityl.07:23
NotFaintI wonder if the problem is that there are two primary partitions.07:24
Dr_willisNotFaint,  last i used partition magic - it couldent even READ ext207:24
Dr_willisof course PM then trashed a system or 2 on me.. so *#*@*@ pm07:24
NotFaintStrange, I could have sworn PM supported that. It would even format them for me.07:24
Dr_willisNotFaint,   last i used pm was some time ago.07:24
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NotFaintI think I was using version 7 or so.07:25
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Dr_willisi use gparted/live cd mainly.  think about this' ntfs file systems are only nowbecoming  'decently' supported under linux.07:25
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Dr_willisdont expect linux tools to be able to do every song and dance with ntfs. when ms wont release the specs for ntfs07:25
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MarkChey, does anyone know what makes ext3 better than ext2? im planning on an upgrade.07:26
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Dr_willisMarkC,  journel to ease recovery of crashes mainly i belive07:26
fiyawerxheh07:26
fiyawerxwhen you 'commit' changes in the livedvd partition manager07:26
NotFaintOkay, next question then: Why can't I view the contents of hda1, 2, etc?07:26
fiyawerxit warns you that "You can lost data!"07:26
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Dr_willisNotFaint,  from the why you described the hd layout.. you could move all the data from partition #2 to the 50gb free partition.. then delete #2.. THEN resize #1 to take up the space.07:27
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Dr_willisthat way theres no 'merging' of data on 2 partitions.07:27
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NotFaintDr: I can't move Windows itself over without it freaking out, though, can I? :P07:27
Dr_willisunder the live cd's you may need to mount the drives.07:27
Dr_willisNotFaint,  not partion #1 --- move the #2 partition.07:28
Dr_willisthen resize #107:28
NotFaintThere isn't ANY space at all on #1 left.07:28
NotFaintSo I can't move the contents of #2 onto it.07:28
Dr_willisNotFaint,  .....  youjust said there was 50gb Free .07:28
NotFaintOn 2.07:28
Dr_willison SOME partition...07:28
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fiyawerxwhere does a drive go by default, /media/* ?07:28
NotFaintWindows is on #1. I can't just move that over...07:29
NotFaintfiyawerx: I got the impression that's for removable media or something. My USB drive goes there...07:29
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Dr_willismove the 'Program files" dir over.. then use tweakui to edit the regisetery to look in the right place.07:29
fiyawerxim pretty sure windows always wants #1, don't think there's a big problem with that07:29
Dr_willisis how ive done it befor.07:29
fiyawerxkubuntu will put the boot loader on top of that07:29
fiyawerxand let you choose07:29
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Dr_willisfiyawerx,  im not even sure hes trying to install linux. :) ive frogotten what hes trying todo ...07:30
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fiyawerxoh07:30
NotFaintNo, I'm not trying to install Linux. I'm working on this for people who probably mean that white text on black screen means an error message.07:30
Dr_willisi think in 'short' hes trying to use gparted to 'merge' 2 ntfs partitions.07:30
fiyawerxoh, good luck with that one :)07:30
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fiyawerxi'd tell them get used to using a different drive letter07:31
fiyawerxhehe07:31
fiyawerxtell them its for their own safety!07:31
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trauthi all07:31
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Dr_willisnow how ya could do it.. would be... scandisk/defrag from windows. (both parts) then use gparted to rezise/shrink  partion #2 - leaving a large 40gb or so partition at the end of the drve. that gives you 3 partitions07:32
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trautdid anyone compile 2.6.20 already?07:32
Dr_willis then format it..and using windows move the data from #2 to #3 --  THEn using parted - delete #2 and expand #1 to fill in the new space.07:32
trautif someone make it work on   nx7400 it would be great07:32
NotFaintfiyawerx: Right, because um... viruses... uh...they look for drive C, but if they can't find it them we have thwarted teh evil! :P07:32
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fiyawerxwell, tell them it makes it easire to just reformat windows when they keep their data on d :)07:33
NotFaintWillis: That was so twisty I couldn't even read it.07:33
Dr_willisNotFaint,  is rather straight forward07:33
NotFaintfiyawerx: But I'll just get a blank stare.07:33
Dr_willisshrink #2.. to make #3... move #2 to #307:33
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NotFaintWillis: Yeah, but I haven't slept much lately. :P07:33
Dr_willisdelete #2.. expane #107:33
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NotFaintDr: Oh, haha, as in because it isn't letting me expand unless there is ADJACENT space -- I follow you now.07:34
Dr_willisthen move data from #3 to 107:34
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Dr_willisNotFaint,  BINGO!07:34
Dr_williswe have a winner.. :)07:34
NotFaintI will do this and commit seppuku for not understanding the first time.07:34
m0nkeynutzhi, i am recieving a crub error code 17 when trying to boot a newly installed copy of dapper07:34
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m0nkeynutzgrub*07:34
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Dr_willisheh...07:34
NotFaintWillis: FRISBEE, you dolt!07:34
Dr_willisitw work time for me.. ieeeee...07:34
Skrotgod damn. I've got two CD-drives, ubuntu installation CD does not detect any of them. Any great ideas?07:35
NotFaintI'm AT work, but I'd love to keep chatting... if I could. Thanks for the input, folks. Will buy again. :P07:35
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bigleonQuestion, how do I check RAM amount in Kubuntu UI?07:36
fiyawerxugh, work.. another 4 letter word that should be banned07:36
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bigleonI can't find any where to see system specs :(07:37
swanflbigleon, run the top command from Konsole07:37
jon_bigleon: or run free07:37
fdovingbigleon: what info is it you're looking for?07:37
bigleonHow much ram i have just installed some new ram.07:38
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fdovingbigleon: kinfocenter is good.07:38
bigleonJust making sure it works Okay. Just found infocenter looking though it07:38
bigleonOhh found it. Thats really inresting] 07:39
bigleonI'm kinda new to Kubuntu07:39
fiyawerxwelcome to the club07:39
bigleonTy.07:39
m0nkeynutzhi, i am recieving a grub error code 17 when trying to boot a newly installed copy of dapper, could anyone help? via pm would be more suited07:40
bigleonI should use adept to get things like Wine right?07:40
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fdovingbigleon: yes.07:40
bigleonnothing coming up through search. Am I doing something wrong?07:41
fiyawerxhmm, hopefully i can get nomachine up and running before time for work07:41
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ScarFreewill1whats a nice app for local voip?07:44
MarkCekiga?07:45
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fiyawerxwelp, here goes a post-install reboot, wish me luck07:45
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ScarFreewill1some thing like team speak07:46
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ScarFreewill1can ekiga be use locally like p2p?07:48
bigleonhttp://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb, do i want dapper or Edgy?07:48
ScarFreewill1edgy07:49
ScarFreewill1o nwm07:49
bigleonI don't understand what i means by add repository, do i just right the command below in the Terminal or do i have to do something else?07:50
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ScarFreewill1bigleon: in adept07:50
bigleonloading Adept one sec07:51
ScarFreewill1startmenu->system->Adept07:51
fiyawerxis there a 'do this to your sources.list' page for 6.10?07:51
bigleonI asume i got to Adept/ mange repositorys07:51
ScarFreewill1bigleon: click on view button..07:51
ScarFreewill1bigleon: click on manage repositories07:52
bigleonAlready there07:52
bigleondo i copy code into the bar at bottem? then click add?07:52
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ScarFreewill1bigleon: are you runing kubntu 6.06 or 6.10 or what?07:53
fiyawerx!easysource07:53
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:53
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ScarFreewill1bigleon: (dapper drake or edgy or feisty)07:54
bigleonI'm not sure how to check that07:54
fiyawerxwow, they improved that site a bunch07:54
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bigleonmore than likely it's 6.06 cause i had gotten cd from mail.07:55
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ScarFreewill1bigleon: ok07:55
ScarFreewill1bigleon: 6.06 is called dapper drake07:55
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bigleonGot it07:56
bigleonit's working07:56
ScarFreewill1ok, they have updated the site since i've been there07:57
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ScarFreewill1bigleon: did you do it with the console?07:57
bigleonI think i messed it up07:57
bigleonMY Adept loader is giving me errors07:57
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ScarFreewill1you can just disable the line if its not working07:58
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slyfoxSo they tell me in #beryl that KDE does not support view ports, so there is no point in Beryl on KDE then because what is the point of virtual desktops with Beryl if all of them share the same Taskbar?07:59
bigleonError Reads " COuld not open cache - adept manager"07:59
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ScarFreewill1bigleon: go to where new  is (the bar) past this in there 'deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main'07:59
ScarFreewill1bigleon: **go to where new repositorys is (the bar)....08:00
bigleonAdept won't load any more it keeps giving me errors08:00
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ScarFreewill1press Ctrl+Esc08:01
ScarFreewill1how many adepts are runing?08:01
bigleonchecking08:01
bigleon108:01
ScarFreewill1ok08:01
bigleonkill it?08:01
ScarFreewill1if adept does not load yes08:02
ScarFreewill1you can kill it by...08:02
bigleonclicking the kill button i woudl asume08:02
ScarFreewill1typing "kill (and the id name)"08:03
ScarFreewill1or no, "sudo kill"08:03
ScarFreewill1eg. "sudo kill 26345"08:03
ScarFreewill1(in the console)08:03
fdoving!adept crash fix08:04
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:04
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bigleonadept is still refusing to open08:05
bigleonSame Error "COuld not open cache - Adept Manager"08:05
bigleonI tried what ubotu said too08:05
ScarFreewilldid you make sure you killed all the adepts that was runing?08:06
bigleonYeah08:06
bigleonthey coume up on proccess table as "Adept" right?08:06
ScarFreewillno, adept_manager08:07
ScarFreewillfor me...08:07
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bigleonwell mine called it just "adept" and only thing in a's of my process table is aio/o and apmd08:07
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ScarFreewillum, maybe a restart is in order if you want to try that08:07
pyrooohello! can anyone please help me in installing Beryl on Kubuntu using an ATI X800 Pro card?08:08
bigleonAlright I'll be back08:08
pyroooi can't get the install to work :|08:08
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_eMaX_!beryl08:09
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:09
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fiyawerx!vnc08:09
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX08:09
fiyawerx!freenx08:09
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX08:09
pyrooothanks ubotu!08:09
ScarFreewill!FreeNX08:10
tobias_ubotu rox08:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:10
tobias_wow08:10
tobias_ubotu ubotu08:10
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:10
tobias_:D08:10
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ScarFreewillbigleon: how goes?08:13
bigleonChecking08:13
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bigleonError continues08:13
zorglu_!find certtool08:13
bigleonGuess i'm looking at a full reinstall...08:13
ScarFreewill(i'm holding tumbs ) :D08:14
_eMaX_ubotu what is the purpose of your existence?08:14
ubotuFile certtool found in gnutls-bin08:14
ScarFreewilllol, there is still some stuff we can try08:14
zorglu_the bot is slow but working :)08:14
ScarFreewill!ping08:14
ubotupong08:14
_eMaX_!har08:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about har - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:14
ScarFreewill:P08:14
ScarFreewillbigleon: your new to linux right?08:15
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bigleonRather new08:15
bigleoni have little experince08:15
bigleoni've used only Gnome INterface in past though08:15
Heavenquakewhat is the GNOME alternative to kdesu?08:15
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_eMaX_!eliza08:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eliza - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:15
ScarFreewillbigleon: we can try to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list08:15
bigleonalright08:16
_eMaX_unbelievable how long the dist-upgrade to feisty takes...08:16
jhutchinsHeavenquake: Not really the best place to ask, but I think it's gsudo08:16
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ScarFreewillbigleon:  you'll need super user rights to write to the file though08:16
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ScarFreewillbigleon: 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'08:17
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zorglu_jhutchins: Heavenquake: it is 'gksudo'08:17
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bigleonSuper rights i find the list in Konqueror08:17
zorglu_!gksudo08:17
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 08:17
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_eMaX_what's the difference08:17
bigleonSources. list is up08:17
ScarFreewillones for kde other for gnome :$08:17
_eMaX_k, but why's sudo discouraged for x apps08:18
bigleonOkay it won't let me save the file08:18
zorglu_!tab | _eMaX_08:18
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archangel_hey I just downloaded and extracted Sauerbraten08:18
ubotu_eMaX_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.08:18
bigleonI have no idea how to get "super rights"08:18
ScarFreewillbigleon: can you maybe pastebin it for me?08:18
archangel_how do I run it?08:18
ScarFreewill!pastebin08:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:18
bigleonwell what hapened08:18
shane_Hey, doesn't anyone know where to find libdvdcss to make my Kaffeine player play my dvds?08:18
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_eMaX_zorglu_: wow08:18
bigleonis i added the command twice08:18
_eMaX_zorglu_: I learned something today08:18
bigleonso i think they clashed08:18
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bigleonI took secound line out so there isn't a double08:19
bigleonI put it back like it was08:19
zorglu__eMaX_: cool08:19
ScarFreewillbigleon: so you know whats the problem you just want rights08:19
bigleonYeah08:19
bruno321could anyone tell me what they have applications  x-deb (that is, .deb packages) associated to? I carelessly removed the association and now I can't run them08:19
ScarFreewillbigleon: type in console 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'08:19
_eMaX_zorglu_: My first IRC session was in 1991 yet you really made me learn something (or rather get over old habits)08:19
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MarkCwhenever i compile a kde app i get: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt08:19
MarkCwhats up with that?08:20
_eMaX_MarkC: qt-dev or something misssing?08:20
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archangel_anyone play game on linux?08:20
bigleonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7256/08:20
archangel_Not much of a selection08:20
jhutchins!games08:20
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org08:20
zorglu_MarkC: install the dev package for kde dev08:20
archangel_I cant run them08:20
zorglu_MarkC: dont remember the name08:20
archangel_well, I dont know how08:21
jhutchinsarchangel_: Big selection, you just gotta know where to look.08:21
archangel_and theres no help that I could find08:21
_eMaX_*: I've  a problem. perhaps, but not necessarily at the end of apt-get -u dist-upgrade I get an error while working on /var/cache/apt/archives/libsane-extras_1.0.18.5_i386.deb08:21
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bigleonthat code gave me error about 2 bad devices08:21
_eMaX_that was after unpacking the replacement for whereami08:21
archangel_good ones? FPS?08:21
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bruno321could anyone tell me what they have applications  x-deb (that is, .deb packages) associated to? I carelessly removed the association and now I can't run them08:21
shane_I installed kubuntu and my dvd player won't play dvds08:21
ScarFreewillarchangel_: linux-gamers.net they got good howtos08:21
shane_any ideas?08:21
archangel_sweet, thanx08:21
ScarFreewillbigleon: my internet is very slow i'm still loading the page08:22
MarkCthanks _zorglu, trying kde-devel now.08:22
zorglu_!info kde-devel kde-devel-extra | MarkC08:22
bigleonAlright08:22
ScarFreewillloading at 600b/s08:22
zorglu_MarkC: those seems the ones08:22
ubotumarkc: kde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB08:22
ScarFreewillbigleon: ok08:22
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ScarFreewillbigleon: so you took that part out08:23
ScarFreewillbigleon: and its still not loading?08:23
bigleonYeah but it won't let me save my edit08:23
ScarFreewillok08:23
ScarFreewillbigleon: type in console 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'08:23
ScarFreewillbigleon: does that help?08:24
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bigleonX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16808:24
bigleon  Major opcode:  14508:24
bigleon  Minor opcode:  308:24
ScarFreewillyeah08:24
bigleon  Resource id:  0x008:24
ScarFreewillso it doesn't load...08:24
bigleonFailed to open device08:24
_eMaX_re08:24
bigleonX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16808:25
bigleon  Major opcode:  14508:25
bigleon  Minor opcode:  308:25
bigleon  Resource id:  0x008:25
bigleonFailed to open device08:25
bigleonCrap XD didn't mean to spam that bad08:25
zorglu_!device | bigleon08:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about device - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:25
zorglu_!devices | bigleon08:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about devices - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:25
zorglu_evil bot08:25
zorglu_this shouldnt have been removed08:25
ScarFreewillhehe08:25
bigleon<amused XD08:25
ScarFreewillok lets try nano08:25
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bigleonI remeber back in day IRC bots on MSN Lol08:25
ScarFreewillbigleon: type in console 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'08:26
_eMaX_anyone: how can I find out what's going wrong with an apt-get install libsane-extras. He keeps telling me he's trying to overwrite /usr/share/man/man5/sane-epkowa.5.gz which is also part of the package iscan. Then I get dpkg-deb: subprocess paste with signal (broken pipe) killed.08:26
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bruno321could anyone tell me what they have applications  x-deb (that is, .deb packages) associated to? I carelessly removed the association and now I can't run them. please! it's just to look out something on the konqueror config!08:26
bigleonokay a menu loaded08:26
ScarFreewillbigleon: nano my be a little confusing at first but ultimetly very easy to use..08:26
MarkCbruno321: gdebi?08:26
ScarFreewillbigleon: ctrl+o is to save/write changes08:27
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bigleonwell when i found it on the kate viewer thing is said i didn't have rights to edit file08:27
bruno321MarkC: gdebi doesn't exist o_O08:27
ScarFreewillbigleon: did you delete the line with that console app08:28
_eMaX_!pastebin08:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:28
bigleontrying to figure it out one sec08:28
ScarFreewillbigleon: no prob take your time08:29
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_eMaX_see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7257/ for the dpkg-deb error.08:29
bigleonI see the two lines at top do i just use delete08:30
ScarFreewillyes08:30
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bigleonThink i did it08:30
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bigleon*loads adept*08:30
marcreichelthi08:31
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ScarFreewill(i'm holding tumbs again) :D08:31
marcreicheltI'm using KNetworkManager 0.1, but my WEP network (128 bit key) does not work :-/08:31
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sparrwhats the "right" way to get my PTP camera usable by non-root?08:32
marcreicheltnevertheless, I can configure it manually (but I need KNetworkManager so that my mother can easily switch between networks)08:32
marcreicheltit always hangs at 28%08:32
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bigleonI've never heard that phrase holding thumbs, from curiosity where is that phrase from?08:33
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ScarFreewillbigleon: its for luck (i don't know where it comes from)08:33
bigleonI figured it was luck, just ranodmly curious of it's orgin08:33
marcreicheltwhat can I do to see what KNetworkManager is doing if I try to activate a WLAN network with WEP?08:34
ScarFreewillbigleon: did you save the file after you edited it?08:34
bigleonyeah08:34
bigleon41one lines were edited or some cracp08:34
bigleonSame error no less though -.-08:34
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ScarFreewillbigleon: so if you 'kate /etc/apt/sources.list' then you get the edited one?08:35
bigleonI'll try that but htat didn't work frist time08:35
bigleonSame Device error08:36
marcreicheltanyone here who has a small tutorial to get KNetworkManager running?08:36
bigleonkate still loaded08:36
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bigleonOnce the line was edited and i tried to save it says i don't have "Rights to save" more or less08:36
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ScarFreewillbigleon: this is really odd 'could not load cache'08:38
soulriderhi08:38
bigleonyeah thats error08:38
bigleonReboot didn't help08:38
ScarFreewillsoulrider: hi08:38
ScarFreewillbigleon: i don't think creating a new user will help because adept is ran by root.... there for affects every user08:39
bigleonI figure i should go grab my disk and do a reinstall08:40
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bigleonI feel much better about fact i only installed it yesterday lol08:41
ScarFreewillbigleon: i guess thats the best idea, i'm all out of ideas08:41
bigleonMeh Idea for future a restore fuction for Adept lol08:41
ScarFreewillbigleon: lol08:41
bigleonThanks for the help big time man08:41
ScarFreewillbigleon: no prob08:42
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_eMaX_all: what does dpkg --configure -a do?08:42
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aortrh33what is the defalt Xserver?  is it Xorg, or Xfree86?08:44
ScarFreewill!xserver08:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:44
ScarFreewilloms08:44
ScarFreewill!xorg08:44
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:44
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ScarFreewillaortrh33: i'm not 100% sure think xorg08:45
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aortrh33thx08:45
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animimotushi08:46
MarkC/stats p08:47
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animimotusplease, how to remove cached covers for amaroK ? rm -r ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/albumcovers   is not enough. I can't attribute them manually, the old appear always in OSD08:49
eMaXre08:49
eMaX!dpkg08:49
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.08:49
eMaXhmm.08:49
eMaXwhat does dpkg --configure -a do?08:49
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pirothezeroiono outside of -i never used everything else08:53
pirothezeromaybe it cuts in and runs a ./configure on the package?08:53
JontyeMaX: Have you been asked to do it by apt-get?08:53
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Jontyalso, does anyone know how I can stop OpenOffice doing text icons instead of graphical ones?08:54
eMaXok here is a more detailed question. in the midst of a dist-upgrade, I got an error configuring libsane-dev. the dist-upgrade stopped. now I read somewhere that using dpkg --configure -a and then dpkg --r libsane-dev I'd be able to remove libsane-dev. I'm running dpkg --configure -a now and it seems to configure about every package that was downloaded so far. I wonder whether afterwards I'll just be able to start over with the dist-upgrade or08:54
eMaXwhether the system is fucked up already at that point.08:54
Jontyyou can usually salvage this sort of thing08:54
Jontyit may take some hackery, but you can generally do it08:55
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tony__hi all08:55
Jontyso do that and it'll probably fail at whatever's failing08:55
eMaXJonty: you understand the problem that it's not just during a normal apt-get install, but a dist-upgrade08:55
Jontyyes08:55
Jontythen try and remove the offending package and see what happens08:55
eMaXis my idea right of removing the libsane-dev package and then start over with the dist-upgrade?08:55
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Jontywell08:56
Jontyif it's at the config stage, --configure -a will do what it was going to do08:56
Jontyso as long as that works, you should be ok08:56
Jontyalso, make sure removing libsane-dev doesn't remove too much else08:57
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eMaXJonty: what I had got was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7257/08:57
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Jontyjust about to ask you for this :)08:57
Jonty*that08:57
eMaXI mean it is true I had installed iscan as I am using it08:58
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eMaXI don't care having to install it again at a later stage08:58
Jontyooh08:58
eMaXI like this particularly reassuring exclamation08:58
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Jontyhmm, that's a manpage08:59
eMaXhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7257/ is a manpage?08:59
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Jontytry moving /usr/share/man/man5/sane-epkowa.5.gz so somewhere else08:59
eMaXah ok08:59
eMaXdid that08:59
eMaXdidn't help08:59
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Jontyno, the thing it's trying to overwrite08:59
Jontywhy, what happened?08:59
eMaXok now it is running depmod09:00
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eMaXno it just didn't care me moving it away09:00
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Jontyok09:00
Jontymove it back09:00
eMaXapparently he installs the new kernel I'm really interested whether I'm be able to finalize the upgrade09:00
cpk1try just apt-get -f install09:01
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eMaXok it broke somewhere in apt-get -u dist-upgrade09:01
eMaXmy plan was to09:01
cpk1i hope you did back up important data just incase something does go terribly wrong09:02
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eMaXdpkg --configure -a and then dpkg -r libsane-dev09:02
eMaXto then start over with apt-get -u dist-upgrade09:02
eMaXhoping that he'll not download the whole lot again, but only what's missing09:02
killakhey how do i share files with my kubuntu and xp setup on network09:02
eMaXkillak samba09:02
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killakok09:03
killakeMaX:  one more noob question, how come when i install something it doesnt show icon in the menus?09:03
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eMaXkillak you can force the menus to rebuild.09:03
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killakhow09:03
premier_is there anyway to force a program like firefox to start maximized?09:04
Cam0yes09:04
eMaXkbuildsycoca.09:04
killakwhat do u guys use to dl mp3s09:05
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eMaXkillak: wget09:05
killaklol09:05
killakim talking about fliesharing09:05
eMaX\o/09:05
aseigopremier_: right click on the title bar -> advanced -> special window settings09:05
Jontyfrostwire09:05
Jontylimewire also technically works on linux09:05
aseigokillak: ktorrent mostly. apollon for the p2p stuff works well09:05
Jontyyeah, that for torrents09:06
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killakit cant find the apollen pkg09:07
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killakhey09:09
aseigokillak: apollon, not apollen. and it's probably in universe09:09
eMaXwhat09:09
killakok09:09
aseigokillak: i can see it with apt-get search09:09
killaki got it sorry i spelled it wrong09:09
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killaklol09:09
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killakhow do i force the menus to be rebuild including all things ive recently added09:10
Cam0does the kubuntu splash upon boot (after the grub splash) use usplash or something else?09:10
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eMaX_/o\_09:10
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killakeMaX:  whats giFT09:11
nogo)) <> ((09:11
eMaX.o709:11
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tobias_!gIFT09:12
ubotugift: metapackage for the giFT filesharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.8.1-1 (edgy), package size 0 kB, installed size 20 kB09:12
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killaki need that for apollon09:12
dhqexcuse me i just need to know how to change my root password09:12
dhq!root09:12
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:12
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killakdhq: i think you can do sudo passwd09:13
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dhqkillak: i tried that it asks me for new password i enter it 2 times but then it doenst change its remains the same old password09:13
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killakr u on hd install09:14
dhqkillak: yes09:14
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killaki dont know man im new myself09:14
killakhopefully eMaX can help u09:15
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LycanNyc-work!kicker09:15
ubotukicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5808 kB09:15
LycanNyc-work!kickoff09:15
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233109:15
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LycanNyc-workanyone here has the kickoff?09:15
nogohow to get rid of a line left over from the login box ? dissapears if i change the res or refresh rate but then i get a box in the topp left of the screen - any ideas ?09:15
eMaXnogo change graphics card?09:16
nogolaptop09:16
eMaXati?09:16
nogoyup09:16
eMaXsux. had that long time. actually disappeared with the latest ati drivers09:16
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nogook there is hope - you know the next question09:17
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eMaXand you know the anser (google) :-D09:17
ayekadoes any one know what happend to automatix?09:17
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eMaXayeka: can't connect? I just thought I had messed something up09:18
nogogoogle - where do i find that ; |09:18
ayekayeah the site is down09:18
eMaXtry mountain view. can't miss it.09:18
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killakeMaX: how come apollon doesnt connect to gnutella09:21
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Gtwywhats an encrypted way of sending a file from a webserver to a user without using SSL on apache09:22
Sekaabgood eventing09:22
Sekaabgood evening*09:22
killakhi09:22
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awakehola09:23
killakany of u guys use apollon09:23
awakealguien sabe para instalar AmIRC kubuntu?09:23
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Kyral!es09:24
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:24
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Ellihello09:24
awakethanks Kyral09:24
awake^09:24
eMaX!klingon09:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about klingon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:25
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Tm_TeMaX: Oh, if you like to play with it, go private.09:25
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ElliCan anyone help me with installing libxine-extracodecs?09:26
eMaXapparently private messages are blocked09:26
eMaXanyway09:26
Tm_TeMaX: The're not, just register your nick.09:26
Gtwyanyone suggest a more sophisticated sound card that runs very well in linux?09:27
NSCAD_Nathananyone know of a vector drawing program with drawing tools similar to the ones in Flash?09:27
killaki try to start gift manually (giftd) but nothing happens doesnt show errors or anything09:28
NSCAD_NathanI really miss the power and simplicity of drawing in flash09:28
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killakNSCAD_Nathan:  didu use inkscape09:28
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NSCAD_Nathankillak - inkscape seems to be more akin to illustrator09:29
Tm_TGtwy: Don't know about sophisticated, but Audigy series should work just fine.09:29
NSCAD_NathanFlash has a different style, which I'm sure you could replicate in inkscape, but not quickly09:29
_eMaX_tnx09:29
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NSCAD_Nathanyou can't bend and join lines in the same way09:30
jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: Some people create images with ImageMagick - it's very powerful, command line directives.09:30
killakhaha09:30
NSCAD_Nathancommand line?  For drawing?09:30
NSCAD_Nathanuhhhh09:30
jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: The Gimp can be extended with plugins.09:31
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NSCAD_Nathanoo... plugins for the Gimp sounds like a maybe09:31
jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: It's pretty amazing.  You can use it in scripts to create graphs, pictures, etc.09:31
NSCAD_NathanI just want to be able to draw vector lines which are easy to manipulate09:31
ElliCan anyone help me with installing libxine-extracodecs?09:31
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jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: http://registry.gimp.org/list?category=909:31
NSCAD_Nathanbezier curves are ok, but still not as easy as in Flash09:31
NSCAD_Nathanjhutchins - thanks!09:32
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khaije1i'm looking for a way to get a full remote desktop including sound w/ kde, any suggestions / experience w/ this?09:32
jhutchinsElli: Not unless you tell us what problem you're having (and what howto you're working from).09:32
_eMaX_skype for windows :D09:32
jhutchinsNSCAD_Nathan: Bug Adobe to release flash for linux.09:32
yuriyhow do you add sensors to ksysguard?09:32
yuriyi've done it before but i can't find it09:33
NSCAD_NathanI was hoping for freeware :)09:33
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_eMaX_Jonty: now dpkg --configure -a died at libsane-extra-dev.09:33
_eMaX_now I'm trying to remove09:33
NSCAD_Nathanfight the power n all that09:33
JohnFluxyuriy: alt+f2   type in  ksysguard   then File->new worksheet09:33
yuriyJohnFlux: i get an empty worksheet and it says drag sensors here09:34
_eMaX_Jonty: did that I retried dpkg --configure -a no errors09:34
JohnFluxyuriy: there should be a sensors list on the left - you may have to drag it out if it's hidden :/09:34
_eMaX_Jonty: now retry dist-upgrade09:34
yuriyohh. thanks JohnFlux!09:34
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yuriyit was hidden09:34
JohnFluxyuriy: I don't know why that happens09:34
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JohnFluxyuriy: stupid bug with the splitter when you hide one side first :(09:34
_eMaX_Jonty: and again he dies09:34
snikkerhow to run an animate desktop background?09:35
_eMaX_Jonty: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7267/09:35
Ellihowto from: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/de/codecs.html09:35
galathalion67k09:35
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_eMaX_Jonty: at the end of the day I removed (dpkg -r) iscan.09:37
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_eMaX_Jonty: now I wonder how to go on09:37
ElliProblem: adept does not find libxine-extracodecs09:37
voicuis there some way to recover data on an ext3 partition? the thing is i would prefer a solution that uses basic commands because the guy that has the problem has no internet connection09:37
_eMaX_Jonty: apt-get -u dist-upgrade doesn't do anything more; it just tells me about one package (nfs-common) being held back. can I assume the dist-upgrade was complete?09:38
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Jonty_eMaX_: yes09:42
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Jontynow do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade09:43
killakNSCAD_Nathan: hey use this http://drawswf.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html09:43
Jontyobviously with sudo09:43
killakNSCAD_Nathan: hahah09:43
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killakJonty: how come no p2p app connects? ive tried apollon with gift and mldonkey gui09:44
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eMaXre09:44
shadowhywindhay all I am trying to startx, on a nother computer, and when i do something goes wrong.. and i just get a grey background with horizontal lines.. I can see the mouse move between the lines.. any ideas?09:45
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killakshadowhywind: restart09:45
eMaXok guys keep fingers crossed09:46
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eMaXbrb (hopefully)09:46
killakok09:46
killaksorry to say, but he wont be back guys jk09:46
shadowhywindkilak restart didn't work09:47
shadowhywindI think it might be a horiz/vert mhz issue.. but i have no idea how i could check what that monitor shoul be set for09:47
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killakshadowhywind: your xconf is messed up then09:47
shadowhywind*this is the first time ever trying to run x on it09:47
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killakshadowhywind: it did that to me too, but i restarted it and then it worked09:48
shadowhywindoh09:48
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killaktry restarting it few times09:48
killaklol09:48
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NSCAD_Nathankillak - :p09:48
killaklol09:48
killakNSCAD_Nathan: let me give you a site09:49
killakhttp://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html09:49
killakit has a graphics section at the bottom09:49
killakcheck it out09:49
NSCAD_Nathansure, thanks09:49
shadowhywindI am going to try to reboot again and see if it might help09:49
NSCAD_Nathanthat's a really useful site09:50
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eMaXre09:51
eMaXJonty: T.H.A.N.K.S09:51
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jagerif i'm sshed into a box, can i use xmessage to throw a message onto the display of a user logged into X?09:53
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killakim out09:56
killaklater guys09:56
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fregolenthello09:59
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_eMaX_anyone here has problems with feisty and suspend to ram?10:00
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delmousbsoir a tous10:00
delmousya kkn??10:00
_eMaX_!fr10:01
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:01
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pirothezeroquestion, is there defrag on *nix??10:06
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BluesKajpirothezero, no, not necessary10:08
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coreymon77is anyone here a sound person10:12
coreymon77as in, knows how ot fix sound problems10:12
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piquadratany experts on luks, cryptsetup and automount around?10:13
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posingaspopular!ask10:13
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:13
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lu-baogood evening :)10:14
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piquadratwell then: I set up luks on an external disk and would like it to automount when I plug it in. I hear gnome supports automounting luks devices, is there something similar for kde/kubuntu?10:15
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echosyp_heh10:15
echosyp_where is the xorg library directory10:15
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lu-baoechosyp_, xorg library? :)10:15
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echosyp_yeah10:16
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echosyp_im installing dri modules for mach64 chip10:17
echosyp_and its asking for the Xorg Library Dir10:17
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lu-baoah i see10:17
lu-baomach64 never heard about okay ^^"10:17
lu-baoi cant help :) *is quiet now*10:18
coreymon77i have woprked a bit with jhutchins and have found out that even though i am part of the audio group, the /dev/dsp directory gave me access denied when jhutchins told me to run a command with that folder10:18
coreymon77it even gave me access denied when i tried it with sudo10:18
coreymon77jhutchins thinks that means my sound is really messed up10:18
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coreymon77anyone else know what to do? cause i cant get a hold of him10:19
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cadkinshello all.  How can I designate what the "Super key" is on my keyboard?10:20
lu-baosuper key o.o"10:21
lu-baowhats that XD10:21
cadkinshaha.  Not sure.  It's required on some Beryl functions10:22
lu-baoi cant run beryl :(10:22
lu-baomh does ubuntu have graphic drivers for ati included? :D10:22
cadkinsdon't know10:23
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lu-baomh kay :(10:24
lu-baomh then i cant get rid of win ._.10:24
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cadkinswhat is mh10:24
lu-baonot a word only a sound10:24
cadkinsah.  gotcha10:25
lu-baowhen youre concentrated or sad and think about something then you make that sometimes10:25
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lu-baolike daydreaming and going inside ^^"10:25
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cadkinsOK.  Found it.  Just FWIW.   The super key is the "Windows" key.  If it doesn't work by default, have to edit the xorg.conf file10:27
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moparisthebestdoes anyone know where kubuntu stores the wallpaper at?10:29
jpiccoloanyone know why i have 20 desktops while running beryl10:29
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x04ty29erwait10:29
x04ty29erwhile running beryl?10:29
x04ty29eras in beryl is still your window manager?10:29
jpiccoloyeah10:29
x04ty29ergo into the beryl settings10:30
x04ty29erand10:30
jpiccolothere are 20 panes by my clock10:30
x04ty29erone sec10:30
cadkinsmoparisthebest:  I think it is in /usr/apps/share10:30
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lu-baosomeone knows if ati drivers are included in kubuntu too? :)10:30
x04ty29erand under general settings10:30
cadkinser....something like that10:30
x04ty29ermake sure that horizontal desktop size is four and vertical size is one10:30
ricmikhello! any idea for a DTS player for Kubuntu?10:30
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x04ty29erjpiccolo: and number of desktops is set to one10:31
moparisthebestdo you mean usr/share/ cadkins ? there are a lot of folders in there but I havent found the wallpaper yet10:31
ricmikI have a DTS amplifier, just need a player to play it10:31
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moparisthebestlu-bao, drivers that work for ATI cards are included, but not the proprietary ones made by ATI10:32
phazemanHi all. i have a dualcore pentium 4 2.6 (64bit) processor. should i download the 64 bit image for the live cd ?10:32
moparisthebestalthough you can install them if you wish10:32
moparisthebestyes phazeman , amd-6410:32
moparisthebestits not a pentium 4 is it though phazeman ? :S10:32
lu-baomoparisthebest, ah nice so it will work but without proprietary :D mh okay i am fine with that ^.^  nice :D10:32
lu-baothank you :)10:32
moparisthebestno problem10:32
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jpiccolook there we go10:33
jpiccolothanks x04ty29er10:33
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cadkinsanyone have a good place to get images for skydome in Beryl?10:33
x04ty29erjpiccolo: sure anytime10:34
moparisthebestthe internet cadkins ;P10:35
cadkinswished i would have thought of that :p10:35
moparisthebestjust search for a wallpaper site on google10:35
cadkinsyeah.  it's just the size requirements are bit much.  even some of the suggested sites you have to modify the image.  no worries.  i'll find some10:36
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phazemanthanks moparisthebest10:36
Hrontoreokay how do i open synaptic10:37
lu-baoHrontore, why not use adept? :)10:37
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brokenheartedI need some help10:37
brokenheartedI have laging problems10:37
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brokenheartedwould anyone be able to help me or tell me were i can get help?10:38
Hrontoreim looking for software to play dvds10:38
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Hrontorei dont like kaffeine10:38
cadkinsHrontore : try vlc10:38
SpAwNHrontore, mplayer xine vlc10:39
lu-baomoparisthebest, mh are conexant (dvb-t nova-t pci tv card) drivers are included too? :)10:39
brokenhearted???????????10:39
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Hrontoreand use adept to get them10:39
SpAwNHrontore, i use xine as it can do dvd menus...10:39
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x04ty29erHrontore: what do you not like about kaffiene10:39
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SpAwNothers can do the dvd menus too..but i find xine works good. there is also ogle.10:40
Tm_Tbrokenhearted: You haven't really said your problem yet.10:40
brokenheartedWhen im on a web browser10:40
brokenheartedit lags10:40
brokenheartedwhen I move boxes around the screen10:40
x04ty29erbrokenhearted: the browser lags10:40
brokenheartedit lags10:40
x04ty29eror the loading lags10:40
brokenheartedwell both10:40
brokenheartedit lags when i scroll10:41
yaccinomg10:41
yaccinopenarena rocks10:41
yaccin:D10:41
x04ty29eris it jerky?10:41
SpAwNbrokenhearted, if it lasgs real bad when moving windows...im guessing you will need to install drivers for your vid card10:41
brokenheartedhow would I do this?10:41
lu-baoyaccin, youre right XD10:41
Tm_T!3d10:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:41
lu-baoyaccin, huh? what is openarena? :)10:41
Tm_THmh10:41
SpAwNbrokenhearted, well lets hope u have a nvidia card.10:41
x04ty29erbrokenhearted: what is your video card?10:41
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yaccinlu-bao: an opensource clone of quake 3 arena10:41
yaccin^^10:41
lu-baoSpAwN, why? :)10:41
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Tm_T!nvidia | brokenhearted10:42
yaccinjust found it in the repo10:42
ubotubrokenhearted: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:42
yaccin:D10:42
lu-baoyaccin, ah i see :> xD never played before :D10:42
angasulebrokenhearted: do you have an nvidia video card?10:42
lu-baosounds nice ^.^10:42
SpAwNlu-bao, becasue atis suck realy realy bad10:42
yaccin!openarena10:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openarena - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:42
yaccin:/10:42
lu-baoSpAwN, youre so wrooong -.-""" it doesnt10:42
yaccinlu-bao: sudo apt-get install openarena10:42
yaccin^^10:42
lu-baoyaccin, wait first i need a ready install of kubuntu :x10:42
angasulelu-bao: ATI drivers for linux are awful (and on windows they have a bad rep, too)10:43
SpAwNlu-bao, lol well atis caused kernel panics for me...and EVERYONE ive talked to that have ati'shate them10:43
yaccinlu-bao: :D10:43
yaccinati sucks :D10:43
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SpAwNyea REAL bad10:43
lu-baoi love ati theyr cards are so fast and cheap same time :x so good price for power :D10:43
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yaccinnvidia \o/10:43
lu-baodrivers are but thats not ati cards fault >.<10:43
SpAwNim sure theres a handfull of ppl who dont have probs with them...but i will never ever(even if i use windows) buy a ati10:43
x04ty29erlol10:44
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x04ty29erif there are no good drivers10:44
x04ty29era good card is useless10:44
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lu-baoi will since nvidias geforce8800 eats power like hell X.x10:44
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lu-baox04ty29er, yeah but thats true for nvidia too o.o10:44
SpAwNmy 7800 GT OC is great.10:44
x04ty29erlu-bao: i agree10:44
echosyp_where is the xorg library directory10:44
x04ty29erhowever10:44
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lu-baothey have good drivers now (nvidia) but you dont have any guarantee that this stay like it is :)10:44
lu-baoso doesnt matter ...10:44
SpAwNlu-bao, nvidia makes decent drivers...tha WORK!10:44
echosyp_true10:44
lu-baoSpAwN, yeah "now"10:45
x04ty29eryes10:45
lu-baofuture is another maybe10:45
x04ty29erthat is what i was trying to say10:45
echosyp_ati still doesn't so that beats the hell out of them10:45
x04ty29erwhy dont you learn to write your own drivers?10:45
lu-baoyeah thats a coding problem but theyr cards are fine and same good as nvidias are <.<10:45
x04ty29erI have a friend that did that for his network card10:45
echosyp_easier said then done10:45
SpAwNwell so far nvidia has more points then ati for me ;-)10:45
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x04ty29erlo10:45
x04ty29erl10:45
x04ty29eri know10:45
echosyp_ati is not as good as nvidia10:45
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echosyp_period10:45
lu-baoits just a lack of drivers programming but ati or nvidia both cards are good and useful its only driver issue what gives the horror :)10:45
echosyp_no10:46
angasulelu-bao: what good is hardware without software?10:46
lu-baoangasule, mhhh hard question *g*10:46
SpAwNlol10:46
echosyp_nvidia has its own binding platform10:46
echosyp_ati doesn't10:46
Tm_Tangasule & others, go #kubuntu-offtopic to argue that please10:46
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lu-baobut you cant get any guarantee for good drivers for both cards they could build trashed drivers one day too10:46
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kalagiohi do you know how can i install aver tv go 007 in kubuntu?10:46
johglihi I'm trying to get my logitech mx610 to work with evdev but if I'm changing the xorg.conf and recognize the mouse by name or bits X doesn't start anymore10:47
johgliI'm using edgy10:47
x04ty29erjohgli: are oyu sure you didn't accidentally change something else10:47
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x04ty29eror forget to change the name in the server thing10:47
lu-bao*brb kubuntu dvd searching*10:47
johglix04ty29er: yes I'm sure10:47
x04ty29erhm10:47
Tm_Tlu-bao: KMplayer?10:47
lu-baoTm_T, what? ^^"10:48
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Tm_Tlu-bao: To play dvd:s and whatever.10:48
echosyp_where is the xorg library directory10:48
echosyp_where is the xorg library directory10:48
lu-baoTm_T, dont know i used xine-ui for it paired with libdvdcss :)10:48
royelquick question, I installed Ubuntu (Gnome), but I would rather have KDE, is it the same to just add it to this install by using apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or is there some big difference in Ubunut vs. Kubuntu releases that would make re-installing from a Kubuntu CD worth doing?10:48
Tm_Techosyp_: No need to repeat.10:48
johglix04ty29er: the configuration with evdev worked for the mouse on my other PC under gentoo10:49
Tm_Tlu-bao: KMplayer uses xine or mplayer or gstreamer as engine, your choose, that's main thing I like in KMplayer.10:49
lu-baobut i really hate these copy protections they make lagging at dvd playback with playstation2 sometimes and are just annoying as hell <.< when i buy a dvd they should be in good quality means not that issues10:49
echosyp_there is a need because nobody answered me10:49
echosyp_but in any case, it was an accident10:49
echosyp_so stfu and don't get smart with me10:49
lu-baoTm_T, ah i see :)10:49
Tm_Techosyp_: Have you done any searching?10:49
royel!ohmy | echosyp_10:49
ubotuechosyp_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:49
echosyp_omg10:50
lu-baoyeah echosyp_ dont get that angry o.o10:50
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echosyp_who said i was angry10:50
lu-baoagressions are evil10:50
echosyp_heh10:50
Tm_Techosyp_: Your st*u.10:50
lu-bao"so stfu and dont get smart with me" <--- sounds angry10:50
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echosyp_that is just how you perceived it10:50
lu-baocalm down :)10:50
Tm_Techosyp_: What exactly you're looking for?10:50
echosyp_im calm as a clam10:50
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echosyp_im install dri modules and its asking for Xorg library directory10:51
echosyp_i don't know where that is10:51
echosyp_i have a real bad connection and it takes forever to load web pages10:51
kalagiohow can i install aver tv go 007 at kubuntu edgy?10:51
Tm_Techosyp_: /usr/lib I think as about any lib, I think.10:51
echosyp_k10:52
kalagiocan anybody help me?10:52
echosyp_i'll try that10:52
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Tm_Techosyp_: And for future, don't "st*u" and calle me smart, I try to help.10:52
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mnbvcvchvjvjhvhv10:53
SpAwNechosyp_, check your /etc/resolv.conf.....make sure u have a few nameservers for your isp in there....i found adding a bunch made my browsing load faster....also might want to try a few firefox hacks(or installer fasterfox)10:53
Tm_Tmnbvcvc: English please.10:53
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cadkinskalagio :  what's going on?10:53
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kalagioi would to install a tv capture driver but i do not know how10:53
cadkinshmmm...and it's avertv10:54
kalagioyes10:54
Tm_TMaybe there's howto or similar somewhere.10:54
SpAwNechosyp_, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/452      those are a few tweaks i do to firefox to speed it up...it realy seemed to help load pages faster10:54
kalagioi am a rookie and i am not so good10:54
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piquadratno idea how to automount encrypted luks devices?10:56
kalagiocadkins can i depend on you?10:56
cadkinskalagio : sorry.  I don't know anything about capture cards10:57
Hrontoreokay i get "error reading nav packet" why?10:57
cadkinsi'm looking though10:57
cadkinskalagio : try over at the mythTV site.10:57
kalagiodo you know links tha i can visit to learn how?10:58
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kalagioo10:58
kalagiothanks10:58
MyGhetekI have a dell laptop, its a d610 with 1gb ram and 120gb hard drive. this has a 1.8 centrino cpu. i have a dock at home with a million peripherals (all usb) should i go for xubuntu or kubuntu?10:58
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cadkinskalagio : http://mythtv.org/10:58
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moparisthebestcadkins, I found a good site for beryl backgrounds http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/downloads/wallpapers/10:59
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kalagiocadkins thank you a lot10:59
cadkinsthanks moparisthebest.  did you find that on the internet?  LOL10:59
echosyp_can i paste an error and see if you guys can tell me how to fix it10:59
echosyp_./home/echosyp/Desktop/mach64-20060330-linux.i386/drm/linux-core/ati_10:59
echosyp_          pcigart.c:87: error: struct page has no member named10:59
echosyp_          count10:59
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moparisthebestnope cadkins :P10:59
ubuntuIdk what my video card is... it came with the Mobo10:59
ubuntuthis is brokenhearted10:59
echosyp_that was supposed to be one line10:59
ubuntuSo how would i be able to install my video card11:00
moparisthebestit isn't working now ubuntu ?11:01
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VyroMyGhetek: xubuntu if you want fast system, kubuntu for useful OS11:02
MyGhetekVyro: can xubuntu use amarok, k3b and all that stuff?11:03
SpAwNMyGhetek, yes11:03
SpAwNMyGhetek, u can always install the other once u install the system11:03
Tm_T!away | Czessi_away11:03
ubotuCzessi_away: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines11:03
VyroI think it can11:03
MyGhetekSpAwN: thanks!11:04
SpAwNMyGhetek, np :-)11:04
Hrontoreim trying to play dvds, but i keep getting errors any pointers?11:04
Hrontorehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7278/11:04
MyGhetekVyro: i think im going to just install both, i have enough space11:04
MyGhetekthanks guys!11:04
Hrontorehrontore: hi11:04
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SpAwN!restricted | Hrontore11:04
ubotuHrontore: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:04
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jageranyone know how to convert an mp3 to a swf streaming object?11:05
jageri see tantalizing hints that suggest one can use ffmpeg for this task, but no specifics11:05
Tm_Tjager: Maybe man ffmpeg helps?11:05
Tm_Tjager: In konqueror: man:ffmpeg11:06
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jageri get encoder errors when using the syntax i grokked from the man pages11:06
jagerstill looking though11:06
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jagerwas hoping someone with experience could shortcut me11:06
Tm_TI have used ffmpeg but without errors you get I can't help.11:06
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jagerotoh i didn't know you could use konqy for man pages, that's prety spiffy, thnx11:07
Tm_TUse pastebin or something to show all you get.11:07
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EmbraceUnityi tried to upgrade from edgy 64 to fiesty 64... it dies on boot now after upgrading, no matter what kernel i use11:07
jagersure lemme poke at it a bit to ensure all that i need is installed11:07
Tm_Tjager: You can use konqueror to almost everything11:07
jagerkonqueror rules me11:07
Tm_Tjager: I'm atm ripping cd's with it.11:07
jagerfish:// is the best hing that ever happened11:07
EmbraceUnityi tried to upgrade from edgy 64 to fiesty 64... it dies on boot now after upgrading, no matter what kernel i use11:07
jageryar that's a cool feature too11:08
Tm_TEmbraceUnity: You already said that.11:08
Tm_Tjager: apt:/ ;)11:08
jagerno way11:08
Tm_TNo way what?11:08
jagerholy shit that's neat as hell11:08
jagerthanks11:08
jager(again)11:08
EmbraceUnityhell is pretty neat11:08
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cobhave you a link for a french conversation ?11:10
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kalagiodoes anybody now how to install aver tv go 007 fm?11:12
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Tm_T!fr | cob11:12
ubotucob: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:12
jim__what is fish:// ?11:14
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Tm_Tjim__: General kio for, well, many things.11:15
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Hrontorewould libdvdcss2-dev 1.2.5 be a stable release?11:15
Tm_THrontore: No idea, any need for -dev?11:15
Hrontoreno11:15
gdiebeljim__: fish is kio for ssh11:16
Tm_THrontore: Soo, why you ask it? Wondering.11:16
Tm_Tgdiebel: Hm, it does handle ftp too?11:16
Tm_TOr do I remember wrong.11:16
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gdiebelnah there is a ftp kio as well11:17
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kalagiohow can i speak in greek forum?11:18
Tm_Tgdiebel: Ok, wondered, I don't use them anyway, I have sshfs mount. :)11:18
yaccinlu-bao: now im trying warsow and sauerbraten ^^11:20
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lontrawhat's kbfx?11:22
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lontraah an alternative to kmenu :)11:23
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yaccinhow can i make a working link to a shellscript... so that it runs the script from directory the original script is in and not from /usr/local/bin?11:24
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yaccinor do i have to make a new script in /usr/local/bin which dirs to the directory and runs the original script from there?11:25
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lu-baoyaccin, lol sauerbraten <-- german word XD11:29
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eric_hallo all11:31
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HeavenquakeAfter being forced to do a dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg, my screen resolutions are back, but my graphics card is screwed. Windows look fuzzy when I move 'em, and both glxgears and glxinfo complains about no GLX extension.. What can I do about that?11:31
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yaccinlu-bao: i know ^^11:32
yaccinfunny name for a game :D11:33
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lu-baoyep xD11:33
lu-baoits a meal type of meat :>11:33
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lu-baomeat what you place in sour touched water some time before you cook it :)11:33
yaccin<< german11:34
yaccin^^11:34
yaccini know what sauerbraten is :D11:34
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lu-baoah ok *gg*11:34
lu-bao<-- *german too* xD11:34
lu-baookay i made an oem install at my main comp :)11:35
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yaccin\o/11:35
lu-baonow i am logged in as oem user do i have anything to do or how to make my own user account? :)11:35
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yaccinoem user?11:36
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HeavenquakeI would like some help... Are there other channels for asking this? :/11:36
echosyp_what driver works with a mach64 card?11:36
echosyp_video card that is11:36
pirothezeroHeavenquake: what is your question? can determine a better room maybe11:36
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Heavenquake[23:32]  <Heavenquake> After being forced to do a dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg, my screen resolutions are back, but my graphics card is screwed. Windows look fuzzy when I move 'em, and both glxgears and glxinfo complains about no GLX extension.. What can I do about that?11:37
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Heavenquakepirothezero11:38
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echosyp_what good is a support channel if nobody is here to support you11:38
echosyp_im so impatient11:38
lu-baoechosyp_, maybe cause nobody other has this card?11:39
Adydaswhat a rude dude11:40
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lu-baoAdydas, me? ^^"11:41
Adydasnah man11:41
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lu-baoah k :)11:41
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echosyp_im the rude due11:42
echosyp_dude*11:42
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lu-bao^^11:43
echosyp_im impatient cause iv been trying to get to the bottom of this for awhile11:43
lu-baoi am friendly :)11:43
diegofrthi11:43
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bonbonthejoni'm trying to compile kweather, but my changes aren't showing up when i add the applet11:43
diegofrtwhat is that??11:44
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bonbonthejondiegofrt: kweather?11:44
diegofrtanybody11:44
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yaccin!kweather11:45
ubotukweather: weather display applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1213 kB, installed size 2268 kB11:45
yaccinbonbonthejon: its in the repos... why compile it?11:45
diegofrtwhere are you11:45
bonbonthejonyaccin: I'm trying to make improvements,11:45
yaccinah ok11:45
yaccinhmm11:45
bonbonthejonyaccin: any idea why the changes aren't showing up11:46
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diegofrtwhat is this about??11:46
Adydasbonbonthejon: superkaramba?11:46
diegofrtanybody here speak spanish11:47
diegofrt???11:47
Adydasno11:47
bonbonthejonAdydas: what about superkamba11:47
Adydas#ubuntu-es i belive11:47
jott_bonbonthejon: i guess #kde/#kde-devel are better places to ask.. but you may double check that no old instance is running plus you installed it with the right prefix..11:47
Adydasbonbonthejon: is that whay your tring to do?11:47
Adydasinsall widget for sk?>11:47
bianconeriHello, I have a simple problem, been trying to install Kopete's plugin "desklist" from source...however when I run ./configure I get this error message "X Screensaver extension header"....what package would i need?11:47
pirothezeroHeavenquake: hmmm11:47
bonbonthejonAdydas: no, i'm trying to update the viewer11:47
Adydasoh ok11:47
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diegofrtde que se trata esto eh?11:48
Adydas#ubuntu-es try here11:49
diegofrtcarecesar11:49
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bonbonthejonwhat is the command to list running processes11:50
premier_hi, my I have a laptop, and the temperature meter is reading 71C, but I think thats inaccurate11:50
premier_Im running without any load, and no part of my laptop feels hot11:50
bianconerianybody got an idea what "X screensaver extention header" is??11:51
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premier_usually, it runs between 45C and 62C.  Today I got a laptop cooling pad, but the temperature meter shot up to 71 when I put it on11:52
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premier_now its moving around wildly.  It went down to 54 in just these last few seconds11:52
lu-baoX.x dc11:52
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dettoaltrimenti_when I try to empty the trash, it says 'access denied'- what can I do?11:54
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bhrich902kubuntuhello all, need some help on keyboad layout options that appear in the system settings under regional & language -> keyboard layout, while i have all sorts of options a friend of mine installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu but does not have those options, any thoughts?11:57
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Skuller!beryl11:59
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:59
Skuller!X12:00
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:00
Skuller!adeptfix12:00
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:00
jim__does Beryl work well with an Intel915 chipset?12:00
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TMMso, I just switched from ubuntu to kubuntu12:05
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makuseruwhat is a good video editing program in kubuntu12:08
dec_I looked in synaptic and the game secret maryo chronicles was installed but it says converted by alien, but i cannot access it to play it any ideas12:09
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TMMso far, it has been a rather painful experience12:09
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TMMI mean, I know I'll probably be dumping some rethoric here, but, it really is like very damn pixel is clickable and customizeable :)12:10
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TMMI am not sure I can handle the power :P12:10
khaijehi guys & ladies12:11
dec_I looked in synaptic and the game secret maryo chronicles was installed but it says converted by alien, but i cannot access it to play it any ideas12:11
aseigoTMM: you are allowed to ignore the customization =)12:11
makuseru!repeat | dec_12:11
ubotudec_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience12:11
TMMaseigo: yes, BUT, there's still the matter of the gazillion of buttons in konqueror12:12
TMMaseigo: I mean, why on earth would I want my fonts folder thingy 2 clicks away? :)12:12
aseigoTMM: you might not. then again, those who need to find where to install there fonts sure like it.12:12
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