[01:08] <allan_> hey
[01:08] <jrib> allan_: hi
[01:08] <jrib> allan_: first, did you install all of the dependencies listed on the site?
[01:08] <allan_> i did ncrypt
[01:09] <jrib> k, and the others?
[01:09] <allan_> and the cspace tar gz
[01:09] <allan_> which is for both
[01:09] <allan_> idk if i have to extract i did though i just hit extract
[01:09] <allan_> i just need to install it from source and idk how
[01:10] <allan_> like uncompile or something
[01:10] <jrib> I'll try to help, but you need to answer my questions
[01:10] <allan_> ok
[01:10] <allan_> i downloaded everything on the page
[01:10] <allan_> there on my desktop
[01:10] <allan_> i extracted them
[01:11] <jrib> allan_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:11] <allan_> and idk what to do now
[01:11] <allan_> edgy unstable the newest one i think
[01:11] <allan_> not sure
[01:11] <jrib> !version
[01:11] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[01:11] <allan_> ok
[01:11] <allan_> hold on
[01:12] <allan_> ubuntu 6.10
[01:12] <jrib> ok, good
[01:12] <jrib> now the first thing we have to do is get all of the dependencies installed
[01:12] <allan_> ok
[01:13] <jrib> python2.4, you have because it is included in ubuntu 6.10, moving on...
[01:13] <allan_> ok
[01:13] <jrib> ncrypt, you said you compiled and installed yourself
[01:13] <jrib> now, pyqt4
[01:13] <allan_> not compiled
[01:13] <allan_> just went to firefox
[01:13] <allan_> hit save
[01:13] <allan_> them o opened it with ark and hit extract
[01:14] <jrib> ok, back to ncrypt
[01:14] <allan_> ok
[01:14] <jrib> allan_: did you click on the Ncrypt link?
[01:14] <allan_> yes
[01:14] <allan_> its on my desktop
[01:14] <jrib> did you visit this page? http://tachyon.in/ncrypt/
[01:15] <allan_> no
[01:15] <allan_> should i
[01:15] <allan_> wait
[01:15] <allan_> i did go there
[01:15] <jrib> how did you download ncrypt?
[01:15] <jrib> ok, did you read the instructions there?
[01:15] <allan_> yes but i dont understand it
[01:15] <allan_> brb
[01:15] <allan_> be right back
[01:15] <jrib> k
[01:18] <allan_> ok back
[01:18] <Xzenome> I wish someone would just create deb for things like this, it would stop so many of the questions.
[01:18] <allan_> now what
[01:19] <nalioth> jrib: debs for what?
[01:19] <jrib> allan_: if you want to grab my attention, type my name
[01:19] <allan_> jrib
[01:19] <allan_> know what
[01:19] <jrib> nalioth: allan_ wants to install http://cspace.in/
[01:20] <allan_> do i do
[01:20] <allan_> ?
[01:20] <jrib> nalioth: this is my first encounter with it oo
[01:20] <jrib> allan_: which ncrypt file did you download?
[01:21] <allan_> ncrypt-0.6.4.tar.gz
[01:21] <jrib> allan_: ok, on your desktop correct?
[01:21] <allan_> yeah
[01:22] <jrib> allan_: open a terminal and type:  cd ~/Desktop    remember capitalization is important
[01:22] <nalioth> !info ncrypt
[01:22] <ubotu> Package ncrypt does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:22] <nalioth> interesting
[01:22] <jrib> Xzenome: sure, what kind?
[01:23] <allan_> ok
[01:23] <allan_> i did that now what
[01:23] <jrib> allan_: ok, now we read what the website tells us: To compile from source you'll need OpenSSL and Pyrex installed.
[01:23] <Xzenome> jrib: Decaf or caf? I have coffee too. Do you take sugar?
[01:23] <allan_> ok what should i do
[01:23] <jrib> Xzenome: caf, no sugar, thanks
[01:24] <nalioth> allan_: those will need to be the -dev versions of those programs
[01:24] <allan_> ok
[01:24] <Xzenome> jrib, You can either give me your address and I'll fedex it to you in the morning or I can base 64 encode it and post it on pastebin.
[01:24] <jrib> Xzenome: ha
[01:25] <jrib> allan_: !find openssl
[01:25] <jrib> !find openssl
[01:25] <ubotu> Found: libcurl3-openssl-dev, libxmlsec1-openssl, openssl, pyopenssl-doc, python-pyopenssl (and 9 others)
[01:26] <allan_> ok i have pyrex on my desktop
[01:26] <jrib> allan_: ok, after some searching, I'm guessing we want  openssl and libssl-dev packages installed
[01:26] <jrib> allan_: are you familiar with apt-get?
[01:26] <allan_> alittle
[01:26] <allan_> can u send me the link to openssl
[01:26] <jrib> allan_: k, install those two packages with this command:  sudo apt-get install openssl libssl-dev
[01:27] <jrib> allan_: no need for a link, it is packaged in the repositories, so you can use apt-get to install them magically
[01:27] <jrib> !apt | allan_
[01:27] <allan_> should i exit out of desktop directory first
[01:27] <ubotu> allan_: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:27] <jrib> allan_: no need
[01:27] <Xzenome> jrib: how rude of me I forgot to offer you a biscuit. Would you like one?
[01:27] <jrib> Xzenome: definitely
[01:28] <nalioth> learning to use the package tools is the easiest route to a healthy system, allan_
[01:28] <allan_> ok
[01:28] <allan_> i got it installed
[01:28] <jrib> allan_: yes, you should always use packages from the repositories for anything you want to install
[01:29] <allan_> ok
[01:29] <jrib> allan_: ok, so next we need pyrex, the package name for that one seems to be 'python-pyrex'.  Go ahead and install that one with apt-get
[01:29] <allan_> ok type sudo apt-get install python-pyrex right
[01:29] <jrib> right
[01:30] <allan_> ok
[01:30] <allan_> done
[01:31] <jrib> allan_: ok, now we have the dependencies for ncrypt.  We can proceed to build it and install it.  Enter this command to extract ncrypt:  tar xvf ncrypt-0.6.4.tar.gz
[01:32] <allan_> shoudl i start with sudo or just that
[01:32] <jrib> allan_: just that
[01:33] <allan_> ok done
[01:33] <jrib> allan_: now, enter the directory where all the ncrypt stuff went:  cd ncrypt-0.6.4
[01:33] <allan_> ok
[01:33] <allan_> done
[01:34] <jrib> allan_: great, now look back on the web page, it tells us to enter the following command to build ncrypt:  python setup.py build
[01:34] <allan_> shoudl i type in python setup.py build
[01:35] <allan_> in shell
[01:35] <jrib> yes
[01:35] <allan_> ok done
[01:36] <jrib> allan_: now you want to install it, so:  sudo python setup.py install
[01:36] <allan_> ok done
[01:37] <jrib> allan_: you are of course trusting that the developers are not evil and have not written a virus to infect your system when  you run something without sudo and don't read the source code
[01:37] <jrib> allan_: ok, now ncrypt should be installed, lets move on with the dependencies for cspace...
[01:37] <allan_> yes
[01:37] <allan_> ok
[01:37] <jrib> next we have pyqt4
[01:37] <jrib> allan_: try to search for that package using this command:  apt-cache search pyqt4
[01:38] <allan_> sudo apt-cache search pyqt4
[01:38] <jrib> allan_: no sudo.  Only use sudo if you need it
[01:39] <allan_> ok done
[01:39] <jrib> allan_: and what did you find?
[01:40] <allan_> python-qt4-dev - Development files for PyQt4
[01:40] <allan_> python-qt4-doc - Documentation and examples for PyQt4
[01:40] <allan_> pyqt4-dev-tools - Development tools for PyQt4
[01:40] <nalioth> the first one will do
[01:42] <jrib> allan_: how about just python-qt4?
[01:42] <nalioth> he needs the -dev packages
[01:43] <jrib> it's a python app
[01:43] <jrib> so I'm not sure which one he needs, safer to just install both
[01:46] <allan_> jrib you with me
[01:46] <allan_> ok
[01:46] <allan_> what u mean
[01:46] <allan_> ok give me the command and ill do it
[01:46] <allan_> please
[01:46] <allan_> ?
[01:47] <allan_> yeah
[01:47] <allan_> im here
[01:47] <jrib> allan_: I want you to understand what you are doing so that after today you don't need to rely on us to install other things
[01:47] <allan_> what nextt
[01:47] <allan_> ok
[01:47] <jrib> allan_: you found python-qt4 and python-qt4-dev, install both
[01:47] <allan_> can u give me the command please
[01:47] <allan_> to install them
[01:48] <jrib> allan_: they are package in the repositories, use apt-get to install them
[01:48] <allan_> i know but what sudo apt-get install python-qt4,python-qt4-dev is taht command right
[01:49] <jrib> allan_: you seperate packages with spaces, not commas
[01:49] <allan_> ok
[01:50] <allan_> ok done
[01:52] <jrib> allan_: ok, what is the next dependency?
[01:52] <allan_> dont know
[01:53] <allan_> hold on
[01:53] <allan_> Running from source on linux:
[01:53] <allan_> Dependencies: Python 2.4+, NCrypt, PyQt4, ctypes, pycurl
[01:53] <allan_> Download the source archive, extract it and run 'python CSpace.pyw'
[01:53] <allan_> thats from cspace
[01:54] <jrib> aww
[01:54] <allan_> ok whats next
[01:54] <jrib> allan_: you were finding what the next dependency we have to take care of is
[01:55] <allan_> did that text help
[01:55] <allan_> Running from source on linux:
[01:55] <allan_> Dependencies: Python 2.4+, NCrypt, PyQt4, ctypes, pycurl
[01:55] <allan_> Download the source archive, extract it and run 'python CSpace.pyw'
[01:55] <allan_> does this help
[01:55] <jrib> allan_: yes, you need to make sure you have ctypes installed
[01:56] <allan_> ok sudo apt-get install ctypes
[01:56] <allan_> right
[01:56] <allan_> ?
[01:57] <allan_> is that command right?
[01:57] <nalioth> no
[01:57] <nalioth> you'll be installing this manually
[01:57] <nalioth> read the readme
[01:58] <jrib> ctypes is packaged
[01:58] <allan_> so how do i install it
[01:58] <jrib> allan_: apt-cache search ctypes  to find the package
[01:58] <allan_> k
[01:58] <allan_> ok done
[01:58] <jrib> !info python-ctypes
[01:58] <ubotu> python-ctypes: Python package to create and manipulate C data types. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1 (edgy), package size 151 kB, installed size 684 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 i386 kfreebsd-i386 ia64 hppa m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 sparc sparc64)
[01:59] <nalioth> if ctypes is packaged, why couldn't it be installed w/o all the dependencies?
[01:59] <allan_> emacs-goodies-el - Miscellaneous add-ons for Emacs
[01:59] <allan_> python2.5 - An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.5)
[01:59] <allan_> python-ctypes - Python package to create and manipulate C data types
[01:59] <nalioth> being manually installed?
[01:59] <jrib> nalioth: ctypes is a dependency of cspace
[01:59] <nalioth> ah
[01:59] <jrib> allan_: after reading the descriptions, you see you want to install  python-ctypes
[02:00] <allan_> ok so sudo apt-geet install python-ctypes right
[02:00] <jrib> right
[02:01] <allan_> ok done
[02:01] <jrib> allan_: next on our list?
[02:02] <allan_> pycurl
[02:02] <jrib> allan_: ok, what do you do?
[02:03] <allan_> apt-cache search pycurl
[02:03] <allan_> rright
[02:03] <jrib> right
[02:03] <allan_> shoould i do that then install it
[02:03] <jrib> allan_: once you find the right package name
[02:04] <Xzenome> sudo apt-get install python-pycurl
[02:04] <allan_> ok done
[02:04] <allan_> now install it
[02:04] <allan_> python-pycurl - Python bindings to libcurl
[02:04] <jrib> yes
[02:05] <allan_> i did sudo apt-get install pycurl and got cant find package
[02:05] <allan_> did i type somethinig wrong
[02:05] <allan_> or ?
[02:06] <Xzenome> I already gave the command above
[02:06] <allan_> ok
[02:06] <Xzenome> sudo apt-get install python-pycurl
[02:06] <allan_> sorry i seee it
[02:06] <allan_> hold on
[02:06] <allan_> ok done
[02:06] <Xzenome> jrib, he's done it.
[02:07] <allan_> now what we do
[02:07] <jrib> ok
[02:07] <jrib> keep reading on the cspace web page
[02:07] <allan_> ok
[02:07] <allan_> hold on
[02:08] <allan_> Download the source archive, extract it and run 'python CSpace.pyw'
[02:08] <allan_> now what
[02:09] <jrib> allan_: ok, did you download the source archive?
[02:09] <allan_> no
[02:09] <allan_> i dont think so
[02:09] <jrib> k, download it :)
[02:09] <allan_> what command do i do
[02:09] <allan_> sudo apt-get installl ?
[02:09] <Xzenome> no you need to get it from the website
[02:09] <allan_> how
[02:10] <allan_> theres  no link to it
[02:10] <allan_> http://www.cspace.in/
[02:10] <Xzenome> http://www.cspace.in/srcdist/CSpaceSrc126.zip
[02:10] <jrib> Source Code (License: GPL): CSpaceSrc126.zip
[02:11] <allan_> ok got
[02:11] <allan_>  it
[02:11] <allan_> it brought me to all the files
[02:11] <allan_> i have it then
[02:11] <allan_> now what
[02:11] <allan_> we do
[02:12] <jrib> allan_: you unzipped it?
[02:12] <allan_> extrCTED IT
[02:12] <allan_> is that bad
[02:12] <allan_> or unzipped
[02:12] <jrib> allan_: that should be fine
[02:13] <allan_> ok
[02:13] <allan_> whats next
[02:13] <jrib> allan_: now cd ~/Desktop/CSpace
[02:14] <allan_> i keep getting no such file or directory
[02:15] <jrib> allan_: where is the cspace archive now?
[02:15] <Xzenome> allan_ type ls ~/Desktop and paste the output here
[02:16] <allan_> pace-0.1.tar.bz2  ncrypt-0.6.4         noip-duc-linux.tar.gz
[02:16] <allan_> CSpaceSrc126.zip    ncrypt-0.6.4.tar.gz  Pyrex-0.9.5.1a.tar.gz
[02:16] <allan_> allan@incorperated:~/Desktop/ncrypt-0.6.4$
[02:16] <allan_> whats next
[02:17] <jrib> allan_: cd ~/Desktop
[02:17] <allan_> idid
[02:17] <allan_> above is what i got
[02:17] <Xzenome> no you didn't. You type ls ....
[02:17] <allan_> hold on
[02:17] <allan_> sorry
[02:17] <allan_> ok done
[02:19] <Xzenome> type find ~/ "*CSpace*
[02:19] <Xzenome> no, type find ~/ "*CSpace*"
[02:19] <doofus> hello
[02:19] <allan_> sdo i ttype *
[02:19] <jrib> doofus: do you know how to navigate to directories using the terminal?
[02:19] <doofus> yeah
[02:19] <jrib> doofus: navigate to the directory that contains the .xp file
[02:20] <allan_> ok done
[02:20] <doofus> kk
[02:20] <allan_> whats next
[02:20] <jrib> allan_: tell us the output
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/_CACHE_MAP_
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/_CACHE_001_
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/_CACHE_002_
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/_CACHE_003_
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/0A77D676d01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/7F61B33Cd01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/8C4BC720d01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/8C7BC720d01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/2A931E77d01
[02:21] <jrib> allan_: ok stop
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/EC4FD0BBd01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/A16DCE45d01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/E7F4A21Cd01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/B48A6A10d01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/E1269403d01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/FFB1312Ed01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/BCA7962Cd01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/729F6D8Cd01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/D00FF207d01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/90546910d01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/5B094701d01
[02:21] <doofus> ok i am in dir with the xp files
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/CE8784D3d01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/2075079Ed01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/36AA4774d01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/0FCC43C6d01
[02:21] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/84215089d01
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/023AF600d01
[02:22] <Xzenome> jrib, it is his client posting it line by line he can't stop it.
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/D4C7E6DFd01
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/B93F9B9Cd01
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/C0AC1242d01
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/936973E7d01
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/1543E5C2d01
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/.mozilla/firefox/7mjx6dl2.default/Cache/345BA85Bd01
[02:22] <allan_> idk i think that is too much
[02:22] <allan_> ok
[02:22] <allan_> what next
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/ncrypt-0.6.4/website/usage.html
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/ncrypt-0.6.4/website/usage.txt
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/.thumbnails
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/.thumbnails/normal
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/.thumbnails/normal/15dca4202fb3a1e329e08f29d4538012.png
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/.thumbnails/normal/5b7503bf0a46ed6f6ed5c35593afceb5.png
[02:22] <allan_> /home/allan/.rnd
[02:22] <allan_> CSpaceSrc126.zip
[02:22] <allan_> allan@incorperate
[02:22] <allan_> thats the end of it
[02:23] <Xzenome> post the output at http://michael-m.co.uk/pastebin so I can look at it.
[02:23] <doofus> jrib, what now?
[02:23] <jrib> doofus: use this command:  file  NAME_OF_FILE.xp
[02:24] <allan_> ok i did
[02:24] <doofus> matt@matt-desktop:~/.etwolf/noquarter/xpsaves$ file 3136B8F5E9AE13765D80094174229A9F.xp
[02:24] <doofus> 3136B8F5E9AE13765D80094174229A9F.xp: data
[02:24] <doofus> matt@matt-desktop:~/.etwolf/noquarter/xpsaves$
[02:24] <allan_> its posted
[02:25] <allan_> what next
[02:26] <Xzenome> jrib, the directory for allan's thing is ~/CSpace .
[02:26] <allan_> what next
[02:27] <Xzenome> allan_: python ~/CSpace/CSpace.pyw
[02:27] <doofus> what now?
[02:27] <jrib> doofus: try using a decent text editor like vi
[02:27] <doofus> vi?
[02:27] <doofus> where i get that?
[02:27] <jrib> doofus: run 'vimtutor' for an intro
[02:27] <jrib> doofus: you already have it
[02:27] <doofus> oh
[02:28] <Xzenome> doofus, use nano, it is easier. I love nano.
[02:28] <doofus> sorry for my noobyness
[02:28] <Xzenome> allan_, does it work?
[02:28] <allan_> idk
[02:29] <allan_> what do u mean
[02:29] <allan_> does what work
[02:29] <allan_> wait hold on
[02:29] <Xzenome> Does a window come up, when you type python ~/CSpace/CSpace.pyw
[02:30] <allan_> yeah it worked
[02:30] <Xzenome> good.
[02:30] <Xzenome> Thank jrib, it was him who guided you. I just stated the obvious.
[02:30] <allan_> anything else i should do
[02:30] <allan_> jrib
[02:30] <allan_> thanks alot
[02:30] <allan_> i really appreciate it
[02:30] <doofus> erm both nano and vi still read garbled
[02:31] <doofus> text
[02:31] <allan_> do u have any way i can contaact u
[02:31] <allan_> in chat
[02:31] <jrib> np, thanks for helping out Xzenome
[02:31] <allan_> any way
[02:31] <allan_> no problem
[02:31] <Xzenome> doofus, what are you trying to read?
[02:31] <doofus> and .xp file
[02:31] <Xzenome> what is a .xp file? What is it for?
[02:31] <doofus> hey does red txt mean u are pv8 msging me?
[02:31] <doofus> lol
[02:31] <allan_> jrib
[02:32] <Xzenome> no. it means we mention your name
[02:32] <allan_> can i contact u somehow
[02:32] <doofus> it saves people xp points on enemy territory mod
[02:32] <Xzenome> allan_, yes /msg jrib putyourmessagehere
[02:33] <doofus> i think he wants msn/email :P
[02:33] <Xzenome> doofus, it is probably a binary file, so it is useless opening it in an editor
[02:33] <allan_> i dont get it
[02:33] <allan_> lol
[02:33] <doofus> .msg jrib  msg = a pv8 msg to jrib
[02:34] <Xzenome> allan_, you can type "/msg jrib OMG I love you" which would send jrib "OMG I love you" by IRC.
[02:34] <doofus> binary so how the heck do i open it in understandable English?
[02:34] <allan_> ok
[02:35] <allan_> hey
[02:35] <Xzenome> doofus, you can without a specification of the file, and I doubt one exists
[02:35] <doofus> oh bugga ! :(
[02:35] <doofus> oh well thanx anyway :)
[02:35] <doofus> bye for now ...
[02:35] <allan_> hey i got to go thanks jrib ill keep this chat so i can come back
[02:36] <Xzenome> Bye guys, it is 1:35 am here in the UK now and I'm going to bed.
[02:36] <jrib> allan_: k, have fun
[03:17] <afidegnum> hello
[03:17] <jrib> afidegnum: hi
[03:17] <jrib> afidegnum: do you understand what pastebin is?
[03:17] <afidegnum> almost
[03:17] <afidegnum> so Ishould do hte pastebin here?
[03:18] <jrib> visit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org in your browser
[03:18] <jrib> you copy and paste text in there and then hit "submit".  Then it will take you toa  new page with the stuff you pasted.  That way I can see what you paste
[03:19] <jrib> afidegnum: can you open /var/lib/dpkg/info/bind.postinst in a text editor and tehn pastebin the contents?
[03:20] <afidegnum> ok I git it
[03:20] <afidegnum> I got it
[03:20] <afidegnum> thnks a lot
[03:21] <afidegnum> now secondly, as I was saying, it is about removing the bind package
[03:21] <jrib> afidegnum: ok, once you pastebin that file, tell me the url that you get
[03:21] <afidegnum> cos since it s giving me error
[03:21] <jrib> right, I need to see that file so I can help you with this issue
[03:22] <afidegnum> ok
[03:24] <afidegnum> another error message
[03:24] <afidegnum> could not get a file descriptor refering to the console
[03:24] <jrib> afidegnum: what did you type to get that?
[03:25] <afidegnum>  open /var/lib/dpkg/info/bind.postinst
[03:25] <afidegnum>  open /var/lib/dpkg/info/bind.postinst
[03:25] <jrib> afidegnum: 'open' isn't a text editor, try 'gedit'
[03:25] <afidegnum> ok
[03:28] <afidegnum> it tells me cannot open display (null)
[03:29] <jrib> afidegnum: are you typing:  gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/bind.postinst
[03:29] <afidegnum> yes
[03:29] <jrib> afidegnum: are you running this in GNOME?
[03:30] <afidegnum> no SSH on a remote server
[03:30] <jrib> ok, you need to tell me these things :)
[03:30] <afidegnum> ok
[03:32] <jrib> afidegnum: run this command:  cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/bind.postinst | nc jrib.dyndns.org 1234
[03:34] <afidegnum> if possible I can give you the access to the server! so you can see the problem yourserf
[03:34] <jrib> afidegnum: the above should work ok, did it give you an error?
[03:35] <afidegnum> ok let me see
[03:37] <jrib> yay it worked
[03:37] <jrib> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7212/ for anyone following along...
[03:37] <afidegnum> ok I see
[03:37] <afidegnum> yes
[03:38] <afidegnum> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7212/afidegnon@blazex:/$
[03:38] <jrib> oh, I guess I should give it a new line
[03:38] <afidegnum> ok
[03:39] <afidegnum> ok let me give you full access to the server, so you can also try your hand on it also and see
[03:39] <jrib> ok
[03:39] <afidegnum> do you have ssh there?
[03:39] <jrib> yeah
[03:43] <afidegnum> the ip is
[03:43] <afidegnum> 72
[03:43] <afidegnum> 72.135.12.191
[03:44] <afidegnum> the username is "afidegnon"
[03:44] <afidegnum> pass: kokou123
[03:44] <afidegnum> port 14122
[03:44] <jrib> notice taht you just told the whole room that info
[03:46] <jrib> ssh -p 14122 afidegnon@72.135.12.191   doesn't seem to work
[03:46] <jrib> afidegnum: what does:  sudo dpkg-configure -a   output?
[03:47] <jrib> afidegnum: erm scratch taht
[03:47] <jrib> afidegnum: what does:  sudo dpkg --configure -a   output?
[03:48] <afidegnum> ???
[03:48] <afidegnum> I don't uderstand what you mean!
[03:49] <jrib> afidegnum: try this command:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:49] <afidegnum> okj
[03:53] <afidegnum> jrib
[03:54] <jrib> yes?
[03:54] <afidegnum> it produced no output
[03:54] <afidegnum> it asked for the password when I typed it, then no output
[03:55] <jrib> afidegnum: what does  'sudo apt-get install peercasr'  return now?
[03:55] <jrib> !info bind
[03:55] <ubotu> bind: Internet Domain Name Server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:8.4.6-1 (edgy), package size 888 kB, installed size 2092 kB
[03:56] <jrib> afidegnum: I mean: sudo apt-get install peercast
[03:59] <afidegnum> ok it is successfully intallled
[04:00] <jrib> afidegnum: you still want to remove bind?  I think peercast was the original issue right?
[04:00] <afidegnum> well I tried intalling videolan and it is giving me that error and I decided to intall peercast rather but it did not solved anything
[04:01] <jrib> afidegnum: ok so you want to install vlc?
[04:01] <afidegnum> yea I am already installing it
[04:01] <afidegnum> with no proble,m
[04:01] <jrib> k
[04:07] <jrib> afidegnum: don't forget to change your password
[04:10] <ma1kel> http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/ietrap/testme.html
[04:12] <afidegnum> ok yes
[04:13] <afidegnum> but hold on there is somehtig I would like to install libdvdcss2
[04:13] <afidegnum> and I had this recomendation
[04:13] <afidegnum> To install libdvdcss2 (DVD region free software) add "deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free" to your /etc/apt/sources.list file and run:
[04:13] <afidegnum>   % sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[04:13] <afidegnum> how shoudl I proceed?
[04:15] <afidegnum> are you thre pls?
[04:21] <jrib> afidegnum: hi
[04:21] <jrib> what was teh result of your last command?
[04:22] <afidegnum> ok everything went successfull
[04:22] <afidegnum> thanks a lot
[04:22] <afidegnum> but there is one last thing I would like to talk ahotu!
[04:22] <afidegnum> To install libdvdcss2 (DVD region free software) add "deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free" to your /etc/apt/sources.list file and run:
[04:23] <afidegnum> % sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[04:23] <afidegnum> first do we need to add % to some of hte commands?
[04:23] <jrib> no
[04:23] <jrib> % just indicates it is a terminal command.  Some shells use % instead of $
[04:24] <afidegnum> and secondly how can I add the above instructions so I can downlaod libdvdcss2?
[04:25] <jrib> what is the output of teh command when you try it now?
[04:28] <afidegnum> http://rafb.net/p/CQnqfu39.html
[04:28] <afidegnum> this is a diferent ling
[04:28] <afidegnum> and all the commands and output!
[04:28] <jrib> afidegnum: ok you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list  and add the deb line above
[04:28] <jrib> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:30] <afidegnum> I have typed it
[04:31] <afidegnum> what should I do next?
[04:33] <jrib> afidegnum: add the "deb ..." line you mentioned above
[04:34] <jrib> !repos | afidegnum
[04:34] <ubotu> afidegnum: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:37] <afidegnum> ok
[04:40] <jrib> afidegnum: after you add the line, you need to save the file and then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:41] <afidegnum> ok
[04:49] <afidegnum> look
[04:49] <afidegnum> how should I edit this
[04:49] <afidegnum> ?
[04:49] <afidegnum> http://rafb.net/p/tPDDPm78.html
[04:50] <jrib> afidegnum: have you read the link ubotu sent you?
[04:50] <afidegnum> not yet
[04:50] <afidegnum> let me read
[04:59] <afidegnum> ok thanks but let me ask something else
[05:00] <afidegnum> how can I see the visual side of what I am doing like when I on my desktp, I would have run startX or run Xwindows bug how can I proceed that on a remote server>?>
[05:09] <afidegnum> jrib
[07:02] <jrib> Gartral: enter this command:  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:02] <jrib> then visit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and copy and paste the contents of the file that opened in your editor
[07:02] <jrib> then submit
[07:02] <jrib> then give us the url
[07:03] <Gartral> k, ty for being patiant, im a bit of a noob
[07:03] <Gartral> ohh shit
[07:03] <Gartral> firefox said that its missing key componets
[07:04] <Gartral> namely, libc6
[07:04] <jrib> Gartral: so you can't use pastebin?
[07:04] <Gartral> ok, now im kinda ticked, i cant get online
[07:04] <jrib> Gartral: run this command please:  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc jrib.dyndns.org 1234
[07:05] <Gartral> well, im kinda dead in the water here
[07:05] <jrib> this one too:  apt-cache policy libc6 | nc jrib.dyndns.org 1234
[07:05] <Gartral> ok,l done
[07:06] <Gartral> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7246/
[07:06] <jrib> yep, I get it here too
[07:06] <jrib> sources.list seem fine
[07:06] <Gartral> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7248/
[07:07] <jrib> Gartral: what does 'sudo apt-get install -f' prompt you to do?  Don't necessarily agree to do what it recommends without reading it first
[07:08] <Gartral> The following extra packages will be installed:
[07:08] <Gartral>   libc6-i686
[07:08] <Gartral> The following packages will be upgraded:
[07:08] <Gartral>   libc6-i686
[07:08] <Gartral> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 199 not upgraded.
[07:08] <Gartral> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:08] <Gartral> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[07:08] <Gartral> gareth@gareth-desktop:~$
[07:08] <jrib> Gartral: do you have update-manager still open?
[07:09] <Gartral> i never did, but i can open it
[07:09] <Gartral> Software index is broken
[07:09] <Gartral> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[07:10] <jrib> Gartral: no, I wanted to make sure it was closed.  Do you have snyaptic or add/remove programs open?  Any package management program?
[07:10] <Gartral> nope, not now
[07:10] <jrib> Gartral: and you still get the same error with that last command?
[07:11] <Gartral> hmmm, im glad i ordered a copy of the linux bible....
[07:11] <Gartral> yeppo
[07:11] <jrib> Gartral: ps -ef | grep apt
[07:12] <Gartral> i assume that goes into terminal?
[07:12] <jrib> yeah, I'll enclose commands in '' from now on
[07:13] <Gartral> ty
[07:13] <Gartral> gave me a list of open commands
[07:13] <jrib> just tell me what is in the last column
[07:13] <Gartral> gareth    4214     1  0 12:36 ?        00:00:01 gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic
[07:13] <Gartral> root      4215  4214  0 12:36 ?        00:00:08 /usr/sbin/synaptic
[07:13] <Gartral> gareth    5214  4915  0 13:12 pts/0    00:00:00 grep apt
[07:13] <jrib> or that
[07:13] <jrib> seems synaptic is open, do you see it somewhere?
[07:13] <Gartral> no
[07:14] <Gartral> ohh, firefox lied, it opened anyway x.o
[07:14] <jrib> hmmm
[07:14] <Gartral> just in my other workspace
[07:15] <jrib> It's probably better if you log out and log back in to close synaptic instead of killing it, mind doing that real quick?
[07:15] <Gartral> killall synaptic?
[07:15] <Gartral> ok... brb
[07:15] <Gartral> hope i dont bust my comp
[07:18] <jrib> hmm maybe we should have just killed it
[07:19] <Gartral> me back
[07:19] <jrib> Gartral: ok, try 'sudo apt-get install -f' now
[07:20] <Gartral> ok, its saying different now
[07:20] <Gartral> The following extra packages will be installed:
[07:20] <Gartral>   libc6-i686
[07:20] <Gartral> The following packages will be upgraded:
[07:20] <Gartral>   libc6-i686
[07:20] <Gartral> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 199 not upgraded.
[07:20] <Gartral> Need to get 0B/1079kB of archives.
[07:20] <Gartral> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[07:20] <Gartral> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?
[07:21] <jrib> sounds goodf
[07:21] <jrib> good even
[07:21] <Gartral> yes then?
[07:21] <jrib> yep
[07:21] <Gartral> (Reading database ... 69815 files and directories currently installed.)
[07:21] <Gartral> Preparing to replace libc6-i686 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (using .../libc6-i686_2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4_i386.deb) ...
[07:21] <Gartral> Unpacking replacement libc6-i686 ...
[07:21] <Gartral> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[07:21] <Gartral> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-i686_2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4_i386.deb (--unpack):
[07:22] <Gartral>  short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./lib/tls/i686/cmov/ld-2.3.6.so')
[07:22] <Gartral> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:22] <Gartral>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-i686_2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4_i386.deb
[07:22] <Gartral> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:22] <jrib> well that's nice...
[07:22] <Gartral> easy to fix?
[07:22] <jrib> not that I know of, time for google
[07:23] <Gartral> wait
[07:24] <Gartral> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe): <-- dosent this mean that it didnt move the package from the DL point to the cache?
[07:24] <jrib> not sure
[07:25] <Gartral> and 2 errors down, it says ""failed to copy" so, isnt the systeem doing this in the wrong order?
[07:26] <jrib> where is "failed to copy"?
[07:26] <Gartral> i understand enough of linux to know most of the basic funtions
[07:27] <Gartral> hort read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./lib/tls/i686/cmov/ld-2.3.6.so')
[07:27] <Gartral> short*
[07:28] <Gartral> why does this have to be shuch a major headache
[07:29] <jrib> Gartral: are you using amd64?
[07:30] <Gartral> no, a 1.7 ghrz celeron
[07:30] <Gartral> why?
[07:30] <jrib> was getting some hits about amd64
[07:31] <Gartral> no
[07:33] <Gartral> might it be helpful to mention im running dapper?
[07:34] <jrib> got that from your sources.list
[07:35] <Gartral> ok
[07:35] <jrib> Gartral: apt-cache policy libc6-i686
[07:37] <Gartral> `terminal?
[07:37] <Gartral>   Installed: 2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[07:37] <Gartral>   Candidate: 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4
[07:37] <Gartral>   Version table:
[07:37] <Gartral>      2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4 0
[07:37] <Gartral>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages
[07:37] <Gartral>  *** 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 0
[07:37] <Gartral>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[07:37] <Gartral>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[07:38] <jrib> I'm tempted to just tell you to downgrade
[07:38] <Gartral> DOWNGRADE?
[07:38] <jrib> see libc6 is 20.4
[07:38] <Gartral> and?
[07:38] <jrib> and it depends on libc6-i686 version 20.4
[07:39] <Gartral> so there shouldnt be a problem
[07:39] <jrib> and right now you have 20 and 20.4 fails to install
[07:39] <Gartral> why?
[07:40] <jrib> Gartral: well that's the error we got, I don't know why it's failing
[07:40] <Gartral> so, what if i try to upgrade to 6.10?
[07:40] <jrib> Gartral: is this a pretty fresh install?
[07:41] <Gartral> yes, risen from the ashes of my LAST upgrade attempt
[07:41] <jrib> heh
[07:41] <Gartral> ubuntu dont like me -_-
[07:41] <jrib> well lets try to fix this first, I don't kow how successful an upgrade will be atm
[07:41] <jrib> Gartral: sudo apt-get clean
[07:42] <Gartral> ok, no output
[07:42] <jrib> ok
[07:42] <jrib> ls -ld /lib/tls/i686/cmov/ld-2.3.6.so
[07:42] <Gartral> this good?
[07:42] <jrib> that's a command
[07:43] <jrib> Gartral: yep, no output is fine
[07:43] <Gartral> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 92868 2006-05-21 14:46 /lib/tls/i686/cmov/ld-2.3.6.so
[07:43] <jrib> Gartral: ok, 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[07:44] <Gartral> hey....
[07:44] <Gartral> it worked, omg
[07:44] <jrib> ?
[07:44] <jrib> weird must have been a botched download
[07:44] <Gartral> probably
[07:45] <Gartral> would a sanctioned ip addy have caused this?
[07:45] <jrib> Gartral: synaptic say everything is copesetic now?
[07:45] <Gartral> 0 broken
[07:46] <jrib> good, I don't know what a santioned ip address is so I don't know
[07:46] <Gartral> dude, i could kiss you right now
[07:46] <Gartral> ok, how do i back up my kernel?
[07:47] <jrib> what do you mean?
[07:47] <Gartral> cus im using the old kernel, i need to upgrade
[07:48] <jrib> Gartral: when you install a new kernel, the old one won't be touched, you'll still have the option to boot to it from grub
[07:48] <Gartral> ohh...
[07:48] <Gartral> cus i have 200 upgrades left
[07:49] <Gartral> and i want to backup my system, so i can restore it if nessisery
[07:49] <jrib> !backup
[07:49] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[07:49] <jrib> and if you just want to remember what pacakges you have installed,
[07:49] <jrib> !cloning
[07:49] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[07:50] <Gartral> in one eye, out the other
[07:50] <Gartral> lol
[07:50] <Gartral> i got it, ty, ty very much
[07:51] <jrib> np
[07:51] <Gartral> i ordered a copy of the 07 linux bible.... i hope it helps
[07:53] <Gartral> hey
[07:54] <jrib> !rute
[07:54] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[07:54] <Gartral> you know how to get a canon pixma ip 1500 series printer working on ubuntu?
[07:54] <jrib> the rute book is really nice.  If you want some better for beginners, help.ubuntu.com is good
[07:54] <jrib> Gartral: no, not really, but look for hints at:
[07:54] <jrib> !printing
[07:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:40] <Xzenome> Hi
[11:40] <Wrongway> hey Xzenome
[11:40] <Xzenome> So what errors are you getting?
[11:41] <Xzenome> Wrongway, what errors are you getting?
[11:41] <Wrongway> got to the point cd ffmpeg-*/
[11:41] <Wrongway> bash: cd: ffmpeg-*/: No such file or directory
[11:42] <Xzenome> right. Did you run apt-get source ffmpeg?
[11:42] <Wrongway> and actually, for the "apt-get source ffmpeg" line I got "E: Unable to find a source package for ffmpeg"
[11:43] <Xzenome> Oh I see, post your /etc/apt/sources.list at http://michael-m.co.uk/pastebin
[11:44] <Wrongway> alrighty....
[11:44] <Wrongway> how do I do that?
[11:44] <Xzenome> type gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and past the contents to the URL above
[11:44] <Wrongway> I've just recently switched from windows and don't know my way around what I'm doing
[11:45] <Xzenome> Wrongway, don't worry it was the same for me a month ago.
[11:45] <Wrongway> only a month? that's a quick learning curve
[11:46] <Wrongway> done
[11:46] <Xzenome> Linux is quite an easy system to learn (and I have a some exprience with programming)
[11:47] <Wrongway> I've had some experience, but have moved away from that
[11:47] <Wrongway> so if I really wanted to, I could probably muck about, but don't really want to :P
[11:48] <Xzenome> Right, ok I'm just modify your sources.list so you can get the stuff
[11:48] <Wrongway> k
[11:49] <nalioth> Xzenome: with an explanation, please
[11:49] <nalioth> we want to instruct how to fish, not give fish away
[11:49] <Xzenome> Ok, basically, I just uncommented some of the lines. That will enable you to download stuff that isn't opensource.
[11:50] <Wrongway> gotcha
[11:51] <Xzenome> type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace it with the modified version (http://michael-m.co.uk/sources.list)
[11:52] <nalioth> stop
[11:52] <nalioth> stop
[11:52] <nalioth> !gksudo
[11:52] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[11:52] <nalioth> running graphical apps with sudo can scramble your user permissions, leaving you with an unusable machine
[11:52] <nalioth> !kdesu
[11:52] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[11:53] <Xzenome> thankyou nalioth, you learn something new every day.
[11:54] <Xzenome> Wrongway, so instead type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then replace it with the modified version
[11:55] <Xzenome> Are you with me?
[11:56] <Wrongway> how do I get the mod'd version?
[11:56] <nalioth> be happy you've not learned from experience
[11:56] <Xzenome> it is at http://michael-m.co.uk/sources.list
[11:57] <Xzenome> nalioth, once nano screwed up like that before but I don't actually know why.
[11:57] <Wrongway> can I not just replace it through the gui instead of the terminal?
[11:58] <nalioth> Wrongway: Xzenomes instructions are for the gui
[11:58] <Xzenome> Wrongway, the command I gave about will replace it through the gui, it just launches from the gui
[11:58] <Wrongway> k
[12:00] <Xzenome> Wrongway, I forgot to uncomment this line: deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe find it and remove the hash to make it work.
[12:00] <Xzenome> "deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"
[12:02] <Wrongway> k, doing that