[12:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87203 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Wrong startup page in Firefox" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87203
[08:55] <mdke> morning
[09:01] <Madpilot> morning mdke
[09:02] <mdke> hiya Madpilot, how are you?
[09:06] <Madpilot> good. re-starting my flight training, finally - working with an instructor to finish my Commercial PL
[09:08] <mdke> cool
[09:13] <Madpilot> expensive, but cool
[09:15] <Laser_away> mdke: thanks for poking the appropriate people ;-)
[09:15] <mdke> anytime
[09:15] <mdke> poking is my middle name
[09:17] <Laser_away> mdke: do you know what's up with ~ubuntu-doc-lists ?
[09:17] <mdke> yeah, there's a bug open about it
[09:17] <mdke> Madpilot: are you using Feisty?
[09:18] <mdke> Laser_away: it's basically unused and there doesn't seem to be a way to remove it
[09:22] <Laser_away> mdke: I'm guessing it was created from an upload
[09:23] <mdke> from the import from bugzilla
[09:23] <Laser_away> oh, that far back
[09:23] <Laser_away> we are having the issue with Universe and Main packages
[09:23] <Laser_away> we switched to explicitly setting the Maintainer: to ubuntu-motu@l.u.c and ubuntu-devel-discuss@l.u.c
[09:24] <mdke> I read something about that
[09:24] <Laser_away> but since those lists aren't associated with any team in LP the first uploads created new people
[09:24] <Laser_away> so now we have ~ubuntu-motu and ~ubuntu-devel-discuss as the Maintainers of Universe and Main
[09:25] <mdke> right
[09:25] <Laser_away> I guess maybe it's just me but it really bugs me
[09:25] <Laser_away> and it seems like LP needs to be able to handle this better
[09:25] <mdke> probably
[09:26] <Madpilot> mdke, hardly. I still haven't updated this box past Dapper :)
[09:26] <Laser_away> anyway, I'm trying to work on it and poke LP devs
[09:26] <Madpilot> I'm also horribly lagged - the landlord's crap router is being crap again...
[09:26] <mdke> Madpilot: ah right
[09:26] <Laser_away> Madpilot: all my Linux machines run Feisty ;-)
[09:27] <Laser_away> I upgraded my "server" machine the other day
[09:27] <Madpilot> Breezy->Dapper broke completely, so I got a bit gunshy about dist-upgrades. I've also been stupidly busy since Edgy came out...
[09:34] <mdke> try it if you get a chance, and tell me what you think of the new help structure
[09:36] <Madpilot> I'll find the Feisty torrent tomorrow morning, and leave the machine running when I leave for the day
[09:37] <Madpilot> hopefully torrenting won't nuke the landlord's shitty router...
[09:43] <mdke> :)
[09:44] <mdke> morning joachim-n
[09:44] <Madpilot> I should also make time next week to babysit the dist-upgrade of this box...
[09:45] <joachim-n> hi mdke
[09:45] <joachim-n> how's it all going?
[09:45] <mdke> joachim-n: I see they reverted the control-center back to the menus, what shall we do about the user-guide?
[09:45] <joachim-n> oh. was the new one not ready?
[09:45] <mdke> apparently not
[09:46] <joachim-n> I thought it was definite. last-minute hiccups?
[09:46] <mdke> let's continue in #docs
[09:47] <mdke> mpt: did you get a chance yet to have a think about the yelp front page look?
[09:48] <mpt> oh, lots of thinking, no doing
[09:48] <mpt> typical mpt, IOW
[09:48] <mdke> :)
[09:49] <mdke> any small fixes? I thought increasing the width of the left hand column would help to reduce the depth
[09:50] <mpt> You're forcing me to learn XSLT, aren't you, I can tell
[09:50] <mdke> no, I can play around with it
[09:50] <mdke> small fixes can be done in the css :)
[09:57] <mdke> afk
[04:27] <nixternal> mdke: hahah, damn that Mickey Mouse!
[04:28] <nixternal> I am sure he has an Apple only clause in his contract with Disney and Pixar
[05:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #87354 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Wrong link on Herd4 testing page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87354
[11:17] <CIA-4> Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal * r3834 kubuntu/internet/C/internet.xml: cleaning and contenting :)
[11:36] <nixternal> hiya guys
[11:37] <mdke> hi nixternal
[11:37] <LaserJock> hi nixternal and mdke
[11:40] <mdke> hi LaserJock
[11:40] <jjesse> hiya LaserJock
[11:40] <LaserJock> mdke: ubuntu-docs still holding together? :-)
[11:40] <mdke> I've chased the yelp guy about making edubuntu work, I'm getting slightly concerned about time for that
[11:40] <mdke> LaserJock: seems to be
[11:40] <LaserJock> mdke: :/
[11:40] <mdke> i'll let you know if he replies soon
[11:41] <LaserJock> that would be good
[11:41] <LaserJock> we need to get a MIR approved and seed changes if it's going to go on the CD
[11:41] <nixternal> LaserJock: time is worrying me as well
[11:41] <LaserJock> bah, plenty of time!!!
[11:41] <LaserJock> ;-)
[11:42] <LaserJock> you guys need to hang out in -motu more often ;-)
[11:42] <mdke> what would be the MIR for? edubuntu-docs isn't in main already?
[11:42] <LaserJock> nope
[11:42] <mdke> where were the docs before?
[11:42] <LaserJock> it's never really had content so it's in Universe
[11:42] <mdke> ah
[11:42] <LaserJock> we've always used ubuntu-docs
[11:42] <mdke> ah, ok
[11:43] <nixternal> LaserJock: I am always in -motu
[11:43] <mdke> well, I'll do my best with that
[11:43] <mdke> ironically, it would have worked with my first patch on yelp, but Don's is done differently
[11:43] <LaserJock> nixternal: I don't think you were there in the old days (semi-old days)
[11:43] <nixternal> been there for over a year I believe
[11:44] <nixternal> but I know what you are getting it
[11:44] <LaserJock> mdke: worst case I guess we'd have to live with having both About Ubuntu and About Edubuntu
[11:44] <mdke> yes
[11:44] <LaserJock> when I first started it was like the last couple weeks of Breezy
[11:44] <LaserJock> and we were literally uploading stuff hours before release, if I remember right
[11:48] <jjesse> hello
[11:48] <nixternal> LaserJock: I am hoping to have Kubuntu complete and proofed this week, getting the pots uploaded by freeze of course
[11:48] <nixternal> hola jjesse
[11:48] <nixternal> argh, my dog is annoying, brb
[11:50] <jjesse> sigh i have 5 reviewed copies of my chpt to go through
[11:51] <jjesse> you know the funny part is that the editor from prentince hall doesn't use open office
[11:54] <nixternal> heh, I remember you telling me she said "what's an odt" or something along those lines