[12:12] Oh, nvm [12:13] I found the character - "Kaz", the author. [12:13] The e thingamajig no doubt. [12:14] for me a filesystem driver is the most important thing and can't be past any XYZ time [12:14] Kano64: file a UVF expection then [12:14] <_ion> tonyyarusso: Perhaps you've mistakenly saved the file in non-UTF-8 encoding. [12:14] _ion: I think ascii just doesn't have accents. I'll just use a regular e. [12:15] <_ion> Ah, control file. [12:15] <_ion> Perhaps you can't use non-ASCII characters at all in them. [12:16] new upload on the way, with the e fixed and my earthlink addy in changelog to make revu happy. === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] oh my, who uploaded a ton of stuff to REVU just now? === tonyyarusso hides under a rock [12:18] you uploaded just kompozer right? [12:18] LaserJock: Yeah, just the one program, but multiple uploads of it. [12:18] well there's a bunch of other stuff [12:18] looks like java stuff [12:19] no idea [12:19] all binary uploads :/ [12:22] It's still the 22nd.... /me cowers [12:22] I sent the email [12:24] I know - not sure if that means "Don't bring in any new stuff, but we may still take what we're working with someone on right now" or "Shut up and go away y'all!" === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:26] LaserJock: I'll delete the java-stuff, as I'm just writing a mail to the uploader [12:28] Upload done. Last URL in a second. === elmargol [n=elmargol@host198-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4453 [12:30] RAOF, LaserJock, swarog, sistpoty, ScottK ^^ ? [12:31] RAOF: btw, you set to autologin from the ssh key, and now I don't know my password to use sudo :P [12:31] tonyyarusso: You shouldn't need a password to sudo pbuilder [12:31] RAOF: weird... [12:31] it asked ;) [12:32] tonyyarusso: Ok, I need to check the sudoers syntax again :-| [12:32] LaserJock: Last one for the day; if it works, awesome, if not, I'll go hide in a corner? [12:32] tonyyarusso: Also, I hope you're not asking me to review that, 'cause I'm not a MOTU :) [12:32] RAOF: I was, but if you're not, oh well. :) [12:32] tonyyarusso: FF was technically at 16:00 UTC [12:32] tonyyarusso: Although a brief look at the diff says that the Maintainer field should probably not be , unless that's an actual vaild address [12:33] LaserJock: *sigh* [12:33] RAOF: Both tonyyarusso@ubuntu.com and tonyyarusso@earthlink.net are valid addresses. (actually the same mailbox, @ubuntu forwards) [12:34] tonyyarusso: You can still get it into Debian, and they may consider a FF exception (I really don't know about that)? [12:34] RAOF: yeah [12:35] LaserJock: So is that pretty absolute and I should give up then? [12:35] tonyyarusso: well, tbh I think the package needs a little more work [12:36] LaserJock: Fair enough, but could you give some tips about what sort of work? On the part of the auther, or me? (Or both?) [12:36] you've got duplicates files for install, dir, etc. [12:36] duplicate files? weird... [12:36] where? [12:36] you don't need install and kompozer.install [12:37] you have kompozer.{desktop,dirs,docs,menu,postinst} [12:37] Hey sistpoty - it was me with all the java stuff [12:37] harpreet: ah, I see... got my 2nd mail? [12:37] we did a dput *.changes and it picked all the *.deb [12:38] yes I did [12:38] sistpoty: em , regarding 'ubuntu1' version comment. whole package or? [12:38] harpreet: just build the source package with dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa [-r fakeroot] , to get a source package instead of a binary one [12:38] we build with debuild -us -uc and sign with debsign independently [12:38] LaserJock: I don't anymore - the kompozer.install and just install were from different uploads (see comment earlier) [12:39] swarog: if it's a native package, yes please. (we use the ubuntu suffix to make it clear that it's not straight from debian) [12:39] LaserJock: Anything else? [12:39] harpreet: debuild will take -S -sa as well ;) === sistpoty builds with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -sa -us -uc [12:40] (that must be a revu bug or something...) [12:40] tonyyarusso: in debian/rules you have a binary-indep: rule but you aren't building any arch indep packages [12:41] tonyyarusso: revu has no bugs :P, only missing features *g*... do you call dh_clean in debian/rules? [12:41] LaserJock: Oh..that was b/c of how nvu was doing it before. I should just take that stuff out. [12:41] sistpoty: dh_clean -k, yes. [12:41] tonyyarusso: did you run lintian on the .deb? [12:42] LaserJock: I don't have a .deb yet..crud [12:42] tonyyarusso: maybe you shouldn't use -k? === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] tonyyarusso: in the postinst you don't need the desktop-desktop-database if you put dh_desktop in the rules [12:43] LaserJock: Should there be a binary-indep rule, and just blank, or no rule? [12:44] blank [12:44] sistpoty: can we do debuild -sa and run debsign to sign it later [12:44] debuild -S -sa -us -uc is what you want [12:44] harpreet: sure... -us -uc are completely independent from -S -sa [12:44] LaserJock: So just "binary-indep:", or "binary-indep: build install"? [12:44] harpreet: -S --> build a source package instead of a binary one [12:44] binary-indep: [12:44] harpreet: -sa include the orig.tar.gz === ds [n=ds@dsl092-014-052.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:45] done [12:46] tonyyarusso: LPGL is a common licenses (i.e. in /usr/share/common-licenses/) [12:46] LaserJock: I know - it just has a sickenly long Preamble. Only the preamble is there, from what I could tell about the headings. [12:46] "Portions Copyright (C) 1992-1999 Netscape Communications Corporation and numerous contributors." seems a bit vague [12:46] Aaargh. Does anyone know the magic sudoers incanation to lett tonyyarusso "sudo pbuilder" without a password? [12:47] sistpoty thanks [12:47] np [12:47] who owns the copyright on the other "Portions"? [12:47] RAOF: yes... at least I can look it up on tiber :) [12:47] LaserJock: grepping for copyright notices recursively for the full source turns up dozens of different parties - I didn't know how to deal with that. [12:47] sistpoty: Yay! [12:47] RAOF: tonyyarusso ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/pbuilder [12:47] RAOF: or thereabouts. [12:48] RAOF: No, make that /usr/sbin/pbuilder. [12:48] ha... only because I needed to ssh first :P *g* [12:48] tonyyarusso: well, it probably needs to be addressed. Just saying parts of it are copyright to somebody isn't very informative [12:49] tonyyarusso: do you really install something to /usr/sbin? (debian/dirs) [12:49] LaserJock: Do you think it wise to list every person I find then? [12:49] probably [12:49] LaserJock: Not sure - likely not, but something spit that out (dh_make?) [12:49] sistpoty: If you were going to login to tiber anyway, maybe you could make a tiny adjustment to REVU? [12:49] I'll try without it. [12:49] shawarma: sure, got a patch? [12:49] does Kompozer have an icon? it seems a shame to have a .desktop and no icon [12:50] sistpoty: Hmm.. No.. I suppose that would have been the proper way to attack it. :-) [12:50] LaserJock: I never found one, no. Disappointing, yes. [12:50] shawarma: what do you want me to change? [12:50] sistpoty: Where's the svn at? [12:50] sistpoty: I want the mimetype of the debdiff to be set to text/plain. [12:50] shawarma: good question... it's in bzr now at least I hope so [12:51] sistpoty: Even better. [12:51] tonyyarusso: well, that's about all from me just looking at debian/ [12:51] sistpoty: Is it https://launchpad.net/revu ? Or is that REVU2? [12:52] tonyyarusso: you might want to set the section to be web not universe/web [12:52] tonyyarusso: ...and if you want to test it building on AMD64, you should now be able to "sudo pbuilder" without a password :) [12:52] shawarma: iirc revu2-trunk is revu2, so trunk should be revu [12:52] LaserJock: Okay. Just to save a bit of frustration on my end, could you give me a straight answer about whether there is any chance whatsoever still of getting this into Feisty? [12:52] sistpoty: Alright. I'll cook up a patch. [12:52] tonyyarusso: well, tbh, it's not up to me really [12:53] I'm not even on the MOTU Council [12:53] LaserJock: Who is it up to? [12:53] shawarma: though I'm not quite sure if the bzr thing is actually working the way it should be... at least I needed to recreate the revu2-branch once due to problems [12:53] (Wondering whether I should keep at it today or call it quits for a few hours) [12:53] Would be really nice to have though, if possible. [12:54] sistpoty: I'll just use it to create a unified patch that you can apply in any way you like. Cool? [12:54] shawarma: very cool :) [12:54] strange enough I've been thinking about setting the mimetype of debdiffs just last night *g* [12:55] but only thinking *g* [12:55] tonyyarusso: I'm really not comfortable making that decision. FF was 8hrs ago. I'm not sure if ubuntu-archive is going to process them [12:55] sistpoty ajmitch: opinions? === ajmitch was away at lunch [12:56] sistpoty: It just really messed with my brain that the e-mails in the control file were missing until I realised that as they are enclosed in <>, firefox's HTML renderer just removed them. [12:57] LaserJock: hm... I guess right now would still be ok... [12:57] are there 2 MOTUs to ack it? === jrib [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty hides [12:58] sistpoty: Does REVU use mod_python's publisher handler? [12:58] LaserJock: I can fix the copyright stuff in the next little bit here. [12:58] tonyyarusso: did you upload all the changes [12:58] if that helps [12:58] LaserJock: not yet, have to grep those. [12:58] LaserJock: what am I giving my opinion on? [12:59] ajmitch: tonyyarusso has a kompozer package that he'd really like to get in [12:59] ok [12:59] ajmitch: he's working on fixing a couple things right now [12:59] shawarma: it's been a while since I've been looking at mod_python... iirc it is (and imo it's just a matter of setting some member of the request) [12:59] has it been reviewed & is at release quality? [12:59] but FF was 8hrs ago and I sent out the email [01:00] in the current REVU state I won't ack it [01:00] sistpoty: Yes, yes, I've used the publisher handler before, I just wanted to make sure that that was what I was dealing with. :-) [01:00] but he's working on the fixes right now [01:00] I prefer to be lenient but we have to say stop at some point === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:00] we'll be discussing freeze exceptions & whether to grant them in a few hours [01:03] shawarma: ah... should be req.content_type = "text/plain" I guess... at least revu2 does this with text/html for reasons currently unknown to me [01:04] sistpoty: that's exactly what I just did. [01:05] :) [01:05] sistpoty: That and remove the

[01:05] sistpoty: It seems pointless to send you a patch now. :-) Will you change it sometime soon? [01:05] shawarma: I'm just about to do it now [01:06] sistpoty: cool. [01:09] longest copyright info ever [01:09] shawarma: can you help me with bzr actually? I've done a bzr co ..., and now did a bzr ci. did that push the changes back to the lp-repository or was it just local? [01:11] sistpoty: It looks like it's fixed on Launchpad as well, so I guess it was pushed. :-) [01:11] sistpoty: it should have pushed the changes [01:12] hm... what would I need to do on tiber then? bzr update says that it's up to date, however diff.py is not updated [01:12] bzr pull? [01:12] depends if you branched or checked out on tiber === ajmitch checks [01:13] ajmitch: bzr pull does s.th. [01:13] yeah, it should [01:13] bzr info tells all :) [01:13] I guess it's a little bit obvious that I'm forced to use cvs for my thesis *g* [01:13] hehe [01:14] bzr also makes a good svn client ;) [01:14] argl... it says now that I should merge... but if I want to merge it says that I have uncommitted changes :( [01:14] ajmitch: I dispute that, although I'd love to use bzr as my svn client. [01:15] === modified file 'scripts/alter_user.py' (properties changed) [01:15] RAOF: you may disput that if you wish [01:15] sistpoty: I'll look, I'm in that dir now [01:15] ajmitch: thanks... then I'll keep my hands off ;) === RAOF should file some (more) bugs against bzr-svn to have some linkies to point to :) [01:15] sistpoty: probably just permissions [01:16] ajmitch@tiber:/srv/revu1-production$ bzr merge --force [01:16] Using saved branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~revu-hackers/revu/trunk/ [01:16] All changes applied successfully. [01:16] :) [01:17] thx ajmitch :) [01:17] now you can commit the merge & hopefully push to launchpad [01:19] ajmitch: as in sudo -u revu1 bzr ci? [01:19] something like that [01:19] though I didn't run bzr merge as revu1 [01:19] which I should have [01:19] sistpoty: We have built the packages as recommended by you. How can I do a sanity check to see if it is in the format you like [01:20] harpreet: you can look at the .changes file. it references all files that are part of the upload [01:20] harpreet: for a source only upload there shouldn't be any deb in it [01:20] harpreet: ideally it mentions a .diff.gz, .dsc and .orig.tar.gz === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] sistpoty: thanks, seems like I have it in the correct format, There is .diff, .dsc and .orig.tar.gz. [01:22] harpreet: great... then upload to revu ;) [01:22] (though we're past FeatureFreeze already :() [01:23] sistpoty: I've got a few packages I'd like to upload too... ;) [01:23] ajmitch: we'll all know more tomorrow ;) [01:23] sistpoty: I work for Sun and we are uploading Project GlassFish (a Java Application Server) and there are 15 packages. So dont be shocked :-). We have been in conversation with Daniel Holbach, matthias and Jeff Bailey! [01:24] sistpoty: Daniel et al, wanted us to upload where they can do a full review. Thx! [01:24] harpreet: I guess if they take over sponsoring/reviewing, FeatureFreeze won't be a problem you'll need to care about then ;) [01:24] :-) [01:25] New upload on the way. === tonyyarusso takes a deep breath [01:25] sistpoty: though I do have issues with decrees from on high overriding what we decide :) [01:26] sistpoty: Thats what they indicated - but we want to get in and knowing that there will be issues identified that we will have to resolve :-) [01:26] sistpoty: does the .tar.gz and diff.gz needs to be signed as well? [01:27] harpreet: no, only the .dsc and .changes (these contains (md5?)-hashsums + length of the files that are part of an upload, so there is no need to sign these files as well) === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] sistpoty: great ! I will upload the files. === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:28] ajmitch: iirc for some higher goals from main universe rules didn't matter in the past :P [01:29] sistpoty: I know, and it'll continue to happen, they run the distro :) [01:29] it's not so much of a problem [01:29] it even makes some sense *g* === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@70.82.80.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:30] sistpoty: so I guess I can still get some of this FDS stuff in ;) === ajmitch will just argue it's for spec stuff, to get some testing before feisty+! [01:31] sitpoty: I have uploaded the files. I will email Daniel et al, about this. What is the next step in this process? [01:31] hehe [01:32] harpreet: good question... I guess Daniel will know better than me [01:32] sistpoty: I am drafting an email to him. Thanks! [01:32] np ;) [01:33] LaserJock: Did revu close? [01:33] I can't upload the fixed stuff.. [01:34] tonyyarusso: nothing has been changed [01:34] weird [01:34] at least not the ftp-server *g* [01:34] are you sure you are using dput -f or rm *.upload ? [01:34] dput -f, yes. [01:35] Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of kompozer_0.7.7-0ubuntu1.dsc === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] Note: This problem might be caused by files already existent on the server. [01:35] because there's an incomplete upload there [01:36] How do I get rid of that and start over? [01:36] try again now [01:36] ok [01:36] All better. Should be there shortly. === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] sistpoty: Thanks very much. I am signing off. [01:49] np === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lkoos [i=ioerror@gateway/tor/x-397f6001cea9bd94] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] sistpoty: with this many topics, I hope it can be a quick meeting :) [01:57] ajmitch: will manage somehow ;) [01:57] s/will/we'll/ === pectic_ [n=existenz@bzq-82-81-29-120.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] I'm interested in creating a fully automatic install process for a small cluster of machines. It seems that it should be possible to PXE boot and preseed with cfengine for all other after boot needs. However, I'm looking for someone who has done this previously on Ubuntu. From all the documentation it seems possible but there's always a snag, right? [02:00] I assume that if anyone has done it, it's people in this room and it also appears impossible for me to join #ubuntu for some reason. [02:01] lkoos: you could you FAI [02:01] I think siretart has used FAI for that [02:01] iirc \sh_away used FAI for this as well [02:02] yeah [02:02] they're probably asleep [02:02] FAI isn't an option, I've used it before and while it is "fully automatic," its buggy and requires all sorts of stuff that I think is too bloated (nfs, ftp, http, dhcp, tftp, shell scripting for profiles, etc) [02:02] most people in that area (apart from sistpoty ;) ) are [02:02] :P [02:02] I don't know how you do it [02:03] but then again, I'm often at work by 8:30am :) [02:03] I'm a student, any further questions? [02:03] im at work by 8:30am because thats the time im supposed to arrive :P [02:03] hehe no [02:03] I noticed that Ubuntu now has support for kickstart but even that seems like it might be more of a hack as compared to preseeding. [02:03] sistpoty: hah when i was at uni i had a good couple months of my sleeping cycle being completely upside down === ajmitch did stay up until 4 or 5am quite often [02:03] went to be around 8-9am most days [02:04] oh, sheesh... I've got to get up early tomorrow for MC meeting *g* [02:04] funnily this was back when i was doing some ubuntu stuff.. heh [02:04] heh [02:04] sistpoty: early? [02:05] it's 11pm on a friday night for me [02:05] for a student: definitely! [02:05] when I should be out doing other stuff ;) [02:05] LaserJock: ping [02:05] hi Burgwork [02:05] hey ajmitch [02:05] Burgwork: pong [02:06] sistpoty: the MC meeting will probably be bigger than the last MOTU meeting :) [02:06] where I think 4 people showed [02:06] :) [02:06] maybe we should set a date for another motu meeting? [02:06] yeah [02:07] I'm just checking if that was decided last time [02:07] ajmitch: it was decided to wait until after the first MC meeting [02:07] yeah === sistpoty puts it on the agenda [02:07] and I see that we only decided a MC meeting date [02:07] Why does #ubuntu seem to roll over into #ubuntu-ops ? [02:08] dunno, I don't stay in #ubuntu anymore [02:08] hrm. Strange. [02:08] lkoos: You're being ban-forwarded for some reason. I'll look into it. (join -ops if you aren't already) [02:08] Ok [02:08] can we get a set schedule, maybe rotating for the MOTU Meetings [02:09] ? [02:09] LaserJock: we wanted it every 3 weeks [02:09] yep... sounds like a very good idea [02:10] which would put the next one at march 7th === lkoos [i=ioerror@gateway/tor/x-397f6001cea9bd94] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:12] btw.: does MC decide on new ubuntu-dev only, or on new ubuntu-members as well? [02:13] both [02:13] at least I'm pretty sure the CC approved that [02:14] ah, nice... [02:16] good night guys! [02:17] Crud. I'll try later... === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:30] Heya gang [02:30] hi [02:30] <_ion> Bono estente. [02:31] Heya ajmitch, _ion [02:32] hey bddebian [02:32] Hi RAOF === ds [n=ds@dsl092-014-052.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [02:32] Hey, _ion. Notice that Seb's uploaded compiz-extra? :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:33] hi bddebian [02:33] Hi sistpoty [02:33] <_ion> raof: Wohoo! [02:33] _ion: Genuine Universe Compiz for you :) [02:34] <_ion> Incidentally, beryl broke down today, due to some X-related updates i think. :-) [02:34] <_ion> Time to switch finally. [02:34] _ion: You mean, the huge bug that every fesity runner of {Beryl, Compiz} has? [02:35] _ion: Whereby no window gets updated unless it's being transformed? (Xorg 7.2 fixes it, apparently) === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] <_ion> I haven't debugged or researched it at all. I just noticed "Aha, beryl is b0rked. Oh well, that's what i get for using an unofficial repository" :-) [02:35] <_ion> Yeah, windows don't get updated. [02:36] Well, Compiz won't help you there. [02:36] <_ion> Thus "that's what i get for using a development version of the distro" :-) [02:36] It's actually Xorg that's borked, in a fairly specific way :-| [02:36] :) [02:37] bddebian: This is your reminder to look at the courier merge... [02:38] <_ion> There's cool stuff coming to compiz in the future. === lotusblossom [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] _ion: libdrm2 + libxrandr2 [02:39] beryl and compiz are both utterly destroyed until that gets sorted out :D [02:40] <_ion> :-) [02:40] symptoms: upon loading the screen refuses to redraw anymore [02:40] so the rest of us who run a normal desktop don't see it [02:40] also general unaccelerated X performance is sluggish too [02:40] that's ok with me [02:40] like minimizing and restoring large windows is noticeably slower === ajmitch wonders if it affects nvidia users [02:40] so it's not just a ha-ha thing [02:40] ajmitch: it affects every 3d compositing method [02:40] xgl, nvidia, AIGLX [02:41] a combination of bug 86841 and bug 85575 [02:41] Malone bug 86841 in libxrandr "compiz/beryl does not refresh content of windows" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86841 [02:41] Malone bug 85575 in vte "gnome-terminal reacting very sluggishly" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85575 === ajmitch runs a boring old desktop [02:41] it is quite unclear if they are related or not [02:41] for me general unaccelerated plain desktop speed has noticeably decreased since 2/20 too [02:42] it appears like the vte issue is distinct though [02:42] ScottK: OK, got the link handy? === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kjcole [n=kjcole@72-254-141-36.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kjcole [n=kjcole@72-254-141-36.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kjcole [n=kjcole@ubuntu/member/kjcole] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SEJeff__ [n=SEJeff@adsl-76-208-152-178.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kjcole [n=kjcole@ubuntu/member/kjcole] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@39-29-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === enyc [n=enyc@1337.whitehorse.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] anyone here familiar with d-i and tasksel? === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-179.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] bddebian: Was afk... bug #87099 [03:45] Malone bug 87099 in courier "courier: merge new debian version 0.53.3-5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87099 [03:46] ScottK: Already building :) [03:46] Ah. Cool. === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@cl-266.bru-01.be.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] Heya Toadstool [03:53] hey bddebian === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@cl-266.bru-01.be.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:53] Well then [03:57] ScottK: Did you get an e-mail? [03:58] No, but I have greylisting, so it'll have to retry. === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matt_good [n=matt@72-254-180-121.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] gar, no more beers in the fridge, life sucks [04:08] aw :( [04:11] bddebian: Still haven't got it. While we are waiting, I've a trivial bug fix you might take a look at, bug #87236. [04:11] Malone bug 87236 in postfix-policyd-spf-perl "Incorrect file reference in long summary in debian/control" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87236 === jwhitlark [n=jwhitlar@72-254-192-46.client.stsn.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:16] nixternal: lol, I just wrote a comment to your blog, however your comment about taking dapper and beating xp wasn't there when I wrote it yet ;) [04:16] sistpoty is still awake, shame ;) [04:16] ScottK: I'll try but I'm trying to hit some of my own stuff atm [04:16] ajmitch: yay... will be tough to get up tomorrow *g* [04:16] heh [04:17] bddebian: Thanks if you can, it's no rush. [04:17] hehe [04:19] ScottK: OK, I got an accept for courier === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:22] bddebian: Odd. I've got nothing. [04:25] evening guys [04:25] I'm "special" ;-P [04:25] Heya LaserJock === LaserJock agrees [04:25] bddebian is a pretty special guy [04:25] hi LaserJock [04:25] he puts up with our teasing [04:25] heh === ajmitch refrains from commenting [04:25] and is a MOTU Science workhorse [04:25] :) === ajmitch is a slacker who does nothing [04:26] ajmitch: Bah, why stop now? :-) [04:26] ajmitch: i'm the slacker [04:26] Toadstool: nah [04:27] ajmitch: The difference is, is that you can do more "real work" in 10 minutes than I can do in 10 hours :-) [04:28] BS [04:29] ScottK: ?? [04:29] bdefreese@bdubuntu1:~/revu/postfix-policyd-spf-perl$ lintian ../../pbuild-feisty/result/postfix-policyd-spf-perl_2.002-0ubuntu2_all.deb [04:29] W: postfix-policyd-spf-perl: package-contains-upstream-install-documentation usr/share/doc/postfix-policyd-spf-perl/INSTALL.Debian [04:30] I'm trying to troubleshoot an error from my rules (yes, still). It says, [04:30] chmod -x /tmp/buildd/kompozer-0.7.7/debian/kompozer/usr/lib/kompozer/components/*.js [04:30] bddebian: I see the warning, but I've no idea what it means. [04:30] chmod: cannot access `/tmp/buildd/kompozer-0.7.7/debian/kompozer/usr/lib/kompozer/components/*.js': No such file or directory [04:31] bddebian: The file is in /debian so I've no idea why lintian thinks it's upstream. [04:31] BTW, this isn't new. [04:31] Ah, OK [04:31] I'll be glad to fix it if someone has suggestions on how. [04:31] I think the issue is that it should actually be looking for components/*/*.js, componenents/*/*/*.js, etc, with none in the top directory. Do I need a 'find' sort of script for this, or should I just try to guess how many subdirectories exist? [04:32] tonyyarusso: Yeah, you want find. [04:32] RAOF: Great. That means I need to learn how to use it :P [04:32] tonyyarusso: I'll roust up a CIL package, they use that logic all the time (it's mandatory with Debian's CIL policy) [04:32] find ./ -name *.js |xargs chmod -x might work, not sure [04:33] install/banshee:: [04:33] find debian/ -type f -name "*.dll" -or -name "*.mdb" -or -name "*.cs" -or -name "*.config" | xargs chmod -x [04:33] find debian/ -type f -name "*.exe" | xargs chmod +x [04:33] Is an example from Banshee packaging. [04:33] nice, that should work. [04:33] somewhat ugly [04:34] find has an -exec option [04:34] Maybe. That's what's suggested by Debian's CIL policy, though. [04:34] The one it was using included "chmod -x $(CURDIR)/debian" - I should probably use the $(CURDIR) thing here as well. [04:36] ajmitch: Do I need to care in this situation about "There are unavoidable security problems surrounding use of the -exec option; you should use the -execdir option instead. [04:36] RAOF: I know the CLI policy fairly well :) [04:36] " [04:37] ajmitch: ...and I've only really started looking at it recently :). Maybe you should suggest an alternative "find" command :) [04:37] tonyyarusso: you're building in a confined space where you know what the structure would be, it's not too much of a problem === ajmitch helped formulate some of the early CLI policy a few years ago === RAOF commends ajmitch on a readable, sane CLI policy. [04:39] find $(CURDIR)/debian/ -type f -name "*.js" -exec chmod -x {} ; [04:39] ? [04:40] or do I want -exec chmod -x {} + ; <-- that looks possibly sane, since chmod can take an arg like that [04:40] s/+ ;/+/ [04:41] do whatever works === ajmitch doesn't have that much of a problem with using xargs [04:42] actually, that would need to be '{}' '+' anyway [04:43] Shite, freakin tilp2 crap :( [04:48] ajmitch: I have no idea whether I'll be able to get one, but "just in case", is there a wiki page / person to talk to to ask for consideration for freeze exemptions? [04:49] no, not yet [04:49] it hasn't been decided yet [04:49] Ah [04:49] since we have to decide if we'll allow them :) [04:49] I thought it might be a standardized process, like most things. 'parently not [04:49] aaah, right [04:49] hehe [04:50] Welcome to that part of the standarized process where the process gets invented. === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:50] like we've made up processes for uvf & sru after discussion, this one is the same [04:55] When is the meeting to discuss? [04:59] gaaaahhh [04:59]