[12:57] <asac> n8
[02:33] <gnomefreak> that was weird. apport crashed my whole system :(
[04:24] <gnomefreak> asac: i assigned bug 85267 to you, for a retrace on 64bit. i didnt get a stack or threadstack at all. (im heading to bed just wanted to let you know.
[04:24] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 85267 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85267
[07:33] <dfarning> asac, good morning
[11:27] <asac> hi
[11:28] <asac> dfarning_: where are you located? how you can appear here so early :)
[11:28] <asac> gnomefreak: ok
[11:28] <asac> feel free to assign anything amd64 to me
[11:41] <asac> ok ... got to go again.
[11:41] <asac> cu l8er
[11:44] <asac> poningru: ping
[11:47] <asac> gnomefreak: i don't get anything reaonsalb ein retracing that too
[11:48] <poningru> asac: pong
[11:58] <asac> poningru: wasn't you the one who can paint?
[11:59] <poningru> no
[11:59] <poningru> ...
[11:59] <asac> :)
[11:59] <asac> ok
[11:59] <poningru> sorry :(
[12:00] <asac> np
[12:38] <Admiral_Chicago> AlexLatchford: i think the beryl thing was evident...someone was talking about it recently
[12:39] <Admiral_Chicago> plus these came when beryl went to .92222222222222
[12:39] <Admiral_Chicago> so i'm going to say...chronology is causation in this case
[12:40] <Admiral_Chicago> logic error anyone :O
[12:40] <AlexLatchford> meh?
[12:41] <AlexLatchford> what beryl thing?
[12:42] <Admiral_Chicago> the beryl causing Fx to crash
[12:44] <AlexLatchford> kk
[12:44] <AlexLatchford> I havent tested Beryl recently
[12:44] <AlexLatchford> still using Metacity for day to day usage
[12:44] <Admiral_Chicago> you're not missing much...
[12:44] <Admiral_Chicago> i've used Beryl, not worth the hassle imo
[12:45] <AlexLatchford> yeah, I did like the Cube though
[12:45] <AlexLatchford> but a few too many bugs
[12:45] <Admiral_Chicago> i liked it, but it did weird things with the panel, couldn't sort them by desktop...
[12:46] <Admiral_Chicago> so i had all the open windows displayed on a panel, even if they were on different viewports...lame
[12:46] <AlexLatchford> yeah there are a few major issues
[12:46] <AlexLatchford> yeah I filed a report that I couldn't switch maximised programs to different viewports
[12:46] <Admiral_Chicago> my biggest thing is that it wont run on my computer without proprietary software
[12:47] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: afaik intel gpu works well and had free drivers
[12:48] <Admiral_Chicago> ya i had to buy Nvidia before I know I was into free software though
[12:48] <asac> :)
[12:48] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: nixternal did that, and he didn't have an issue
[12:49] <Admiral_Chicago> great, now Fx won't launch for me and I really don't have the time to debug it.
[12:49] <asac> np, i even bought an ATI card recently .... because I wanted full power for quake4 :) ... though I exactly knew that I am in free software and in general dislike prop drivers
[12:49] <Admiral_Chicago> wth, Konqueror did the same thing
[12:49] <asac> oh
[12:49] <asac> maybe you have a messed up thing there :)
[12:50] <Admiral_Chicago> okay this is really odd...w3m it is.
[12:51] <Admiral_Chicago> might as well use w3m, just need to attach this file...
[12:52] <Admiral_Chicago> grr...frames
[12:52] <Admiral_Chicago> freddy@omicron:~$ firefox
[12:52] <Admiral_Chicago> No protocol specified
[12:53] <Admiral_Chicago> any ideas?
[12:54] <Admiral_Chicago> wow, okay nothing is working...time to do a brute force method
[12:54] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo shutdown NOW. haha
[12:54] <poningru> ok so 2.0.0.2 will be released later today
[12:55] <poningru> are we ready with that that?
[12:58] <Admiral_Chicago> uptime: 1 minute. I was going on a week
[01:59] <gnomefreak> now that is how it should look. a good retrace on feisty == bug 86002
[01:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86002 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86002
[02:00] <asac> poningru: always the same ... release friday night ... and let distributors alone for the weekend.
[02:01] <gnomefreak> asac: once retrace is done can we get rid of mt-needtestcase or mt-needtester?
[02:01] <asac> which bug ... only some crashers should have those tags ... mostly just in case we have a fix we need to try.
[02:01] <gnomefreak> bug 86002
[02:01] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 86002 in firefox "[apport]  firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86002
[02:02] <asac> gnomefreak: i think the needtestcase just accidentially slipped in. however mt-needsummary is valid
[02:02] <gnomefreak> right
[02:03] <asac> hmmm
[02:03] <asac> this one is a java plugin crash ... maybe a testcase/tester won't be soo bad after all ... can we reproduce this?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> i havent tried bug i can tell you java never crashed for me since feisty repos opened
[02:05] <gnomefreak> lets find out :)
[02:05] <asac> yeah ... i think so too ... however reporter says it crashes after installing blue ice theme ... wierd.
[02:05] <gnomefreak> installing it
[02:06] <asac> http://www.rockradioaz.cz/azlive.php?choice=0"
[02:06] <asac> that is the url the java plugin crashes on
[02:06] <asac> at least its in the stacktrace :)
[02:06] <asac> maybe try if with java installed it crashes
[02:08] <gnomefreak> oh here we go. taking a screen shot for you
[02:08] <asac> to reproduce we should ensure that java used is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[02:08] <asac> ok
[02:11] <gnomefreak> emailing it to you. my home folder doesnt want to open
[02:12] <asac> k
[02:13] <gnomefreak> sent to ubuntu.com address
[02:13] <asac> yau ... 2.0.0.2 sources are there
[02:14] <gnomefreak> did tb .10 release yet?
[02:14] <asac> gnomefreak: ok ... might take some time ... @jwsdot.com might be faster
[02:14] <gnomefreak> k
[02:14] <asac> official statement: thunderbird will be released sometime next week - maybe :)
[02:14] <gnomefreak> when im done with emails ill ask if you got it if not ill send there
[02:14] <gnomefreak> lol @ -maybe
[02:16] <asac> the digital signature thing is not that a big problem
[02:16] <asac> if you fear to get a trojan
[02:16] <asac> don't run it though
[02:16] <asac> what happens if you go on?
[02:16] <asac> (if you want to go on:))
[02:16] <gnomefreak> no i wondering if its spacking the crash
[02:16] <gnomefreak> im going to accept it when done with email
[02:17] <asac> hmmm ... doubt so ... ok ... lets see what happens if it you accept ;)
[02:17] <asac> maybe accept in a chroot
[02:17] <asac> FEAR!!!
[02:17] <asac> :)
[02:17] <asac> hmmm ubuntu planet livebookmarks fail to load for the whole day (in ffox)
[02:18] <asac> planet debian, mozilla and other news sites work
[02:19] <gnomefreak> well i went back to it and pop is no longer there. i refreshed page and it says "Applet jOrbisPlayer started"  in the bottom left corner
[02:20] <asac> hmm
[02:20] <gnomefreak> nothing is loading though
[02:20] <asac> after fresh ffox start?
[02:20] <asac> maybe restart ffox
[02:20] <gnomefreak> i just closed site just now and its not poping th dialog box
[02:21] <gnomefreak> i did refresh than i closed link i will try clear cache and start over
[02:21] <asac> yes please
[02:21] <asac> maybe in combination with ... remember session and theme update?
[02:22] <gnomefreak> hmm not helping still just black screen even after clearing all data
[02:27] <asac> ok
[02:27] <asac> i will try to look at code then ... is it mt-confirm?
[02:29] <gnomefreak> might be
[02:30] <gnomefreak> site works as expected
[02:30] <gnomefreak> you accept it and it plays music
[02:30] <gnomefreak> radio station even
[02:31] <asac> please set it ... maybe this issue is even gone for reporter. I will take a look anyway, maybe i see what code might have a missing check or something.
[02:32] <asac> ah ... karma has been updated :)
[02:32] <gnomefreak> it dropped i think
[02:32] <gnomefreak> mine atleast
[02:33] <asac> 13631
[02:33] <asac> is yours
[02:33] <gnomefreak> i thought it was stuck at 14300+
[02:33] <gnomefreak> for the last week
[02:33] <asac> but since you have been here over a year ... might be valid
[02:33] <asac> karma decays
[02:34] <asac> though I find it wierd, because you did quite some bug triage the last days
[02:34] <gnomefreak> yes its set to mt-confirm
[02:34] <asac> ty
[02:34] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:35] <gnomefreak> one more retrace than i will see about tb local
[02:37] <asac> goody goody
[02:37] <asac> will do some house cleaning now ... its really a mess here
[02:38] <asac> will stop by from time to time ... so if you run into problems, I will be here :)
[02:39] <gnomefreak> k
[02:41] <gnomefreak> damn apport
[02:47] <gnomefreak> i searched for thunderbird-locals mozilla and thunderbird there is no meta package for locals the only thing  i found is thunderbird-local-CC and there isnt one for lt so its something we would have to start from scratch by the looks of it.
[02:48] <asac> let me see
[02:48] <asac> (feisty2)asac@hector:~$ apt-cache show thunderbird-locale-tr | grep Source
[02:48] <asac> Source: thunderbird-locales
[02:48] <asac> so apt-get source thunderbird-locales should download
[02:48] <asac> it
[02:49] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[02:50] <gnomefreak> got it :)
[02:52] <gnomefreak> blueice theme is kind of cool :)
[03:04] <gnomefreak> asac: its at version thunderbird-locales (1:1.5.0.2ubuntu1-3) should i go to 2ubuntu1-4 or 2ubuntu2?
[03:15] <gnomefreak> brb gonna try to fix nautilus
[03:22] <asac> 2ubuntu2-1
[03:22] <asac> as this will be a new upstream tarball
[03:22] <asac> maybe use 2ubuntu2-0mt1 for preview builds
[03:22] <asac> once everything is right we will push a -1
[03:23] <asac> before dash = upstreawm version (has to change every time we make changes to orig.tar.gz
[03:24] <asac> after dash ... packaging updates (e.g. changes on same orig.tar.gz)
[03:25] <gnomefreak> the control file will be updated during build? or should add 2 sections for lt one normal one transitional?
[03:25] <asac> no transitional ... no -lt existed so far
[03:25] <asac> otherwise yes
[03:25] <asac> 1 section for -lt
[03:26] <asac> take care that you write spell the language correct :)
[03:26] <asac> but please make new upstream orig.tar.gz
[03:27] <asac> with all .xpi files replaced with original ones (e.g. official branding)
[03:27] <gnomefreak> so download all of them over and replace exsisting ones than retar it and build it?
[03:27] <asac> yeah
[03:28] <asac> extract current orig somewhere
[03:28] <gnomefreak> k
[03:28] <asac> then replace all
[03:28] <asac> then tar-up with new upstream tarball version (see above)
[03:28] <asac> add lt.xpi of course too
[03:28] <gnomefreak> can do that. should i redo control file for all of them? trash all transitionals and replace maintainer with you?
[03:29] <asac> no
[03:29] <asac> just keep changes to minimum
[03:29] <asac> just add -lt
[03:29] <asac> ... who is maintainer ?
[03:29] <asac> hans?
[03:29] <gnomefreak> no one of ours
[03:29] <asac> who is that?
[03:29] <gnomefreak> checking as soon as it opens
[03:29] <asac> Marin
[03:30] <asac> Martin
[03:30] <asac> ok
[03:30] <gnomefreak> yep
[03:30] <gnomefreak> pitti
[03:30] <asac> i think I should take over then
[03:30] <asac> :)
[03:30] <gnomefreak> k
[03:30] <asac> but will ask him
[03:30] <asac> keep it for now
[03:30] <gnomefreak> ok this shouldnt be too bad. ill get back with you if i get stuck
[03:37] <asac> y
[04:05] <gnomefreak> i think its all good :) ill start uploading in a bit
[05:08] <chri1900> hi
[05:09] <chri1900> i got a problem with firefox, can i post it here?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> what type of issue?
[05:11] <chri1900> i want to get media plugins running and i installed some, like vlc plugin or helix plugin using synaptic
[05:12] <gnomefreak> ok and?
[05:12] <gnomefreak> chri1900: this is more of a #ubuntu question
[05:12] <chri1900> about:plugins gives me the info that they are up and runnning but when i go to download actions i se that i dont see nothin
[05:12] <chri1900> and i cant add anythin in the download actions dialog
[05:13] <gnomefreak> chri1900: did you install the codecs to play the file
[05:13] <gnomefreak> s
[05:13] <chri1900> mhh
[05:13] <chri1900> well
[05:14] <chri1900> i did not do it being aware of installing them
[05:14] <chri1900> so this should be my problem
[05:14] <gnomefreak> chri1900: please for ubuntu help join #ubuntu
[05:14] <gnomefreak> this is not a firefox problem
[05:14] <chri1900> ok, but thx a lot man
[05:18] <gnomefreak> asac: build for feisty is complete and uploaded to http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/Thunderbird-Feisty/Thunderbird-Locales_1.5.0.2/
[05:18] <gnomefreak> asac: are we building this for edgy too?
[06:57] <asac> no just for feisty
[06:57] <asac> will review tomorrow ... we are going out for the night now :)
[06:57] <asac> thanks a lot
[07:03] <gnomefreak> yw have goot time
[07:03] <gnomefreak> good
[07:32] <jp_> hello
[07:33] <gnomefreak> hi
[07:34] <jp_> is it a good place to ask question about seamonkey ?
[07:35] <jp_> may i ask here ?
[07:36] <gnomefreak> you can i may be only one here atm and i dont know much about it
[07:39] <jp_> ok this is the question: before gnome, i used kde. in konqueror, there is a plugin, allowing you to type "man:<any command you want to know about>", and then a html man page is displayed by the navigator
[07:40] <jp_> for mozilla/seamonkey/firefox is there a way ?
[07:43] <gnomefreak> not that i have seen or heard of and firefox is a no. it brings upa  google search. if i had to guess this is something that kde did to customize konq.
[07:44] <gnomefreak> since konq. if your file manager also
[07:44] <gnomefreak> jp_: to do it in gnome naultius might do it
[07:45] <gnomefreak> there might be an upstream add-on for it but again i doubt it
[07:51] <jp_> ok see you
[07:51] <jp_> gnomefreak: :-)
[09:01] <dfarning> Just wanted to check in and see how things are going;)
[09:03] <dfarning> looks like we have a few new faces!
[09:03] <dfarning> Please feel free to ask any questions
[09:04] <dfarning> And tune in to the ML
[09:37] <gnomefreak> going better than the first 5 days of the week
[09:37] <dfarning> sound like a bad week
[09:37] <dfarning> are you back home?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> dfarning: havent left yet. im leaving around the 1st of march and may be bringing pc up with me but that hasnt been decided yet due to not having a place to set it up
[09:38] <dfarning> I hope everything goes well
[09:39] <gnomefreak> yay im down to 18 ;)
[09:39] <dfarning> down to 18?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> only 18 with mt-retrace tag
[09:39] <dfarning> funny
[09:39] <gnomefreak> started at 50 in the beginning of week
[09:39] <dfarning> great how are the retraces going
[09:39] <gnomefreak> shitty
[09:40] <dfarning> are they usefull
[09:40] <gnomefreak> some are some are about as usful as a cup without a bottom
[09:40] <dfarning> that sucks
[09:40] <dfarning> is the problem missing -dbgsym files
[09:40] <gnomefreak> yep its because we cant get the right versions of -dbgsym packages
[09:41] <gnomefreak> most of it. other reasons are there is no way to tell if 32bit or 64 bit
[09:41] <dfarning> Martin is working on getting space to store the historical files
[09:41] <gnomefreak> i think we need to start asking 32or 64 bit when triaging
[09:41] <gnomefreak> cool
[09:42] <dfarning> that sounds like some apport should report automatically
[09:42] <gnomefreak> they also need to be updated edgy and feisty if possible
[09:42] <dfarning> they?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> it gives uname command but -generic doesnt say 64bit it wil report smp but that doesnt mean anything
[09:42] <gnomefreak> they == dbgsym packages
[09:43] <dfarning> ok
[09:43] <gnomefreak> feistys apport is leaving off coredumps (i plan to ping martin mondayish about that
[09:43] <gnomefreak> but im still getting fairly good retraces on edgys reports
[09:44] <dfarning> I think that is happening if the reporter send a condensended report
[09:44] <gnomefreak> dfarning: apport reports it and attaches them for you
[09:44] <gnomefreak> in feisty
[09:45] <dfarning> Isn't there a send complete or short repot option on the gui
[09:45] <gnomefreak> oh yes there is
[09:45] <gnomefreak> i forgot about that
[09:45] <dfarning> I think the short option cuts off the coredump
[09:46] <dfarning> I'll see if that option can be turned off for fx and tb
[09:46] <gnomefreak> ty i doubt it but ty for trying
[09:46] <dfarning> yea of little faith
[09:47] <gnomefreak> dfarning: im sure its a very general code snipit
[09:47] <dfarning> the ubuntu powers really seem to want the team to succed
[09:47] <gnomefreak> good so do i :)
[09:47] <dfarning> me to:)
[09:48] <gnomefreak> have you heard anything from hjmf recently?
[09:48] <dfarning> not for a few day said he was pretty busy with school
[09:49] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[09:49] <dfarning> Have you seen any patches from linspire yet
[09:50] <gnomefreak> no and im confused about that. why would linspire be giving mozilla team patches anyway. i thought we were just getting that restricted thingy they have
[09:50] <dfarning> I thought I mailed you about that
[09:51] <dfarning> Will follow up with a email
[09:51] <gnomefreak> ty i might have missed it
[10:09] <gnomefreak> ill bbl gonna finish these retraces before dinner i hope.
[11:16] <gnomefreak> asac: if you get back in the next hour or 2 can you ping me.