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In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 6174 kB, installed size 14144 kB [02:08] any reason #ubuntu does not search edgy-backports? === lkoos [i=ioerror@gateway/tor/x-397f6001cea9bd94] has joined #ubuntu-ops [02:09] Hi there. [02:09] hi [02:09] jrib: huh? [02:09] I appear to be unable to join #ubuntu [02:09] Ah, that's why. [02:09] !tor | lkoos [02:09] lkoos: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer. [02:09] Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself. Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc. If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks [02:10] ubotu only searches edgy and edgy-seveas repositories using !info in #ubuntu, however, elsewhere, he seems to include edgy-backports [02:10] That's an interesting statement regarding my ability to be anonymous with tor. [02:12] nalioth: ^ [02:13] Whoever told ubotu to direct people to tor.unixgu.ru is misinformed. [02:13] Yes, someone can sniff an exit node. [02:13] However, without regard for the content I produce, I am effectively as anonymous as one can be online. [02:14] Using a cloaking service is not anonymous and it disregards the actual need to use tor for many use cases. [02:14] I don't know anything about how tor actually works, all I can tell you is you can't join #ubuntu with it. [02:15] I propose that someone changes that bot output as it's misleading. It's FUD. [02:16] Sorry that other tor users have made it impossible for me to join #ubuntu, some people suck :-( [02:16] Sorry to waste your time. === lkoos [i=ioerror@gateway/tor/x-397f6001cea9bd94] has left #ubuntu-ops [] [02:16] Someone who knows more want to consider that proposal? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ [02:33] In #xubuntu-offtopic, IPODS_OWN_ZUNES said: !ops this guy is being a asshole === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tonyyarusso] by ChanServ === Jordan_U [n=jordan@h-68-165-170-107.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [04:51] Nothing big, but the ubotu message about ntfs-3g needs to be updated, it's no longer BETA. [04:51] !ntfs-3g [04:51] ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy) [04:51] Jordan_U: Do we have a non-beta version in Ubuntu, or is only upstream non-beta? [04:52] tonyyarusso: Only upstream [04:52] tonyyarusso: Let me see if the linked instructions install the latest version... === Vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has left #ubuntu-ops [] === cables [n=cables@c-76-18-37-113.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:10] In ubotu, cables said: no, hi is Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! This is a channel where you can ask questions and get help with Ubuntu. Feel free to ask a question, and if someone knows how to help you, they'll try their best. [05:11] Ok, I'll update the Ubuntu Wiki first with instructions on installing the 1.0 then change the ubotu message [05:11] sounds like a plan :) [05:12] Hey, just a question, Ubotu seems to respond to !hi differently depending on where you say it. Is that a special script? [05:13] cables: It's built into the plugin handling factoids. [05:13] !-hi-#ubuntu [05:13] Sorry, I don't know anything about hi-#ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:13] bleh [05:13] !-hi [05:13] hi aliases: howdy - added by Seveas on 2006-07-11 17:20:25 [05:13] !-hi-#ubuntu-offtopic [05:14] where is it different? [05:14] tonyyarusso, I said it in pm and it said welcome to ubotu [05:14] in #ubuntu it says welcome to #ubuntu [05:14] in offtopic it says welcome to #ubuntu-offtopic [05:14] ah, yeah. It's welcome to (some variable wherever you are) [05:15] ok [05:16] Do you like my new !hi ? === cables [n=cables@c-76-18-37-113.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] [05:29] what is the sysrq key anyway? === phos-phoros [n=donovan@unaffiliated/phos-phoros] has joined #ubuntu-ops === vorian_ [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops === vorian_ is now known as vorian === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has left #ubuntu-ops [] === cables [n=cables@c-76-18-37-113.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tritium] by ChanServ === hybrid_ [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Madpilot] by ChanServ === ttmrichter [n=michael@219.140.155.84] has joined #ubuntu-ops [07:55] How, precisely, is the supposed weakness in my router being tested? [07:59] ttmrichter, you got redirected to -read-topic? [07:59] Yes. [07:59] And found a distinct paucity of actual information. [08:00] ttmrichter, if you fixed the issue -read-topic points out, join me in #madpilot for a test attack [08:00] Look at it from my (paranoid) perspective: I suddenly get told by an irc bot that I'm "vulnerable", get pointed to a freely-editable wiki page with no real information. [08:01] I won't be adjusting anything until I know what is being tested and get something sensible out of it. [08:01] Looking at my router, there's nothing on any port open that's vulnerable. [08:01] So what's the story? [08:01] your router is freaking out when people send D C C instructions thru it. Changing ports bypasses your router's stupidity [08:01] Got an URL which explains it in more detail? [08:02] google "DCC exploit" [08:04] or just trust our wikipage - lots of people monitor that page, any crap would be killed PDQ [08:11] I've changed the port. I assume I have to log out and back in? === ttmrichter [n=michael@219.140.155.84] has joined #ubuntu-ops [08:12] OK. Fire away. [08:13] On port 8001 as instructed. [08:13] ttmrichter, join #madpilot, please - I won't launch a test attack here [08:17] ttmrichter, you're clear, you should be able to get into #ubuntu now === ttmrichter [n=michael@219.140.155.84] has left #ubuntu-ops [] === maxamillion [n=max@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ === hybrid [n=x@72.169.30.254] has joined #ubuntu-ops === phos-phoros [n=donovan@unaffiliated/phos-phoros] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Jordan_U [n=jordan@h-68-165-170-107.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [10:19] !seen Jordan_U [10:19] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen jordan_u - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [10:19] Is that feature broken or removed? [10:21] removed, I think [10:21] use seenserv instead === morrolan [i=51a84d9d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-31b59409c26ecd68] has joined #ubuntu-ops [11:14] @schedule [11:14] Schedule for Etc/UTC: Current meeting: MOTU Council | 24 Feb 21:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 25 Feb 17:00: LoCo Team | 26 Feb 23:00: Community Council | 27 Feb 20:00: Technical Board | 28 Feb 18:00: Accessibility Team [11:15] @schedule sydney [11:15] Schedule for Australia/Sydney: Current meeting: MOTU Council | 25 Feb 08:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 26 Feb 04:00: LoCo Team | 27 Feb 10:00: Community Council | 28 Feb 07:00: Technical Board | 01 Mar 05:00: Accessibility Team === morrolan [i=51a84d9d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-b78ba6ccf4bb02c7] has joined #ubuntu-ops [11:17] Hello - can anyone tell me why the version of libglu-mesa and libglu-dev are cvs versions, and not full releases? It causes the install of UFO:Alien Invasion to die miserably. [11:18] maybe if you stay longer than 30 seconds? === morrolan [i=51a84d9d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-e457c2193e61bf86] has joined #ubuntu-ops [11:18] !opengl [11:18] Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [11:19] morrolan, not a clue about the libglu bits. have you submitted bug reports? [11:20] meanwhile, this is a discussion channel for the irc ops, not a support channel [11:27] elkbuntu, look at his host :) [11:27] Seveas, meh [11:28] elkbuntu, shoarma [11:29] Seveas, eh? [11:29] meh -> sheep -> dead sheep -> shoarma [11:31] you really are weird [11:31] : [11:31] I am === elkbuntu cuddles up to the weirdness [11:32] wow... someone cut loose at joel bryan juliano on -sounder [11:32] yeah [11:33] michael richter should behave [11:33] im pretty sure i've seen similar from him before somewhere === adem [n=adem@unaffiliated/adem] has joined #ubuntu-ops === cntb [n=user@89-138-39-48.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-ops [12:14] \o [12:14] I saw a new bot ubot3 [12:14] cntb, yes, it is a redundancy for ubotu [12:14] ty elkbuntu [12:15] same daatbase in real time ? [12:15] should be [12:15] ok [12:15] ubotu is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3 is a helper for channels such as loco channels [12:15] I'll remember that, elkbuntu [12:15] oh f... [12:16] Seveas!!! [12:16] !ubotu [12:16] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [12:16] phew [12:16] ! [12:16] it seems to have set "nothing" [12:16] ha ha you made a new factoid>? [12:16] so, uh, i smell DB corruption :) [12:17] oh [12:17] at least it is backed up [12:17] bye [12:17] cya cntb [12:17] !ubotu is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3 [12:17] is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3 is a helper for channels such as loco channels === cntb [n=user@89-138-39-48.bb.netvision.net.il] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Konversation] [12:17] buggy [12:17] wot the heck [12:17] !forget ubotu is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3 [12:17] In #ubuntu-ops, Amaranth said: !forget ubotu is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3 [12:17] meh [12:17] !forget ubotu is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3 [12:17] I know nothing about ubotu is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3 yet, elkbuntu [12:18] hahah [12:18] o_O [12:18] this is now dennis' problem [12:18] indeed === essy [n=essy@about/essy/stouterik/pdpc.base.SportChick] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v essy] by ChanServ === stylus_ [i=stylus@tapthru/operator/stylus] has joined #ubuntu-ops === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ === Minataku [n=Ed@unaffiliated/payphoneed] has joined #ubuntu-ops === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ === Vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops [01:20] elkbuntu, why do you always have to find obscure bugs? [01:20] Seveas, it's a gift. === Seveas slaps elkbuntu === elkbuntu pouts [01:21] you realise i need extra huggles now that you went and slapped me? [01:21] pray tell. what did it name the factoid? [01:21] maybe nalioth has some hugglecake left === Hobbsee want hugglecake! [01:27] what is hugglecake? [01:27] highvoltage, nalioth's cooking. should speak for itself [01:27] :) [01:38] I want white chocolate with blueberries === highvoltage doesn't discriminate against chocolate colours [01:45] I do [01:45] I don't like green chocolate [01:45] no peppermint crisps for you then [01:46] i only like white chocolate that is supposed to be white chocolate [01:46] elkbuntu: good answer! [01:46] bloomed stuff sucks [01:48] lol === Seveas prefers praline [01:48] or white chocolate with whole hazelnuts [01:48] or butterscotch [01:49] or cappucino flavor [01:49] mmmm butterscotch [01:49] mmmm caffeine [01:51] @now melbourne [01:51] Current time in Australia/Melbourne: February 23 2007, 23:51:48 - Next meeting: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor in 1 day [01:51] mmmmm sleep! [01:51] go to bed [01:52] but there's still another cup worth of coffee in the pot~ [01:52] s/~/!/ === Seveas throws the coffee out the window [01:52] elkbuntu's not in melbourne, anyway... === elkbuntu launches after it in slow-mo screaming 'NoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOooOO!' [01:53] Hobbsee, timezone is the same :) [01:53] true that :P [01:53] elkbuntu lives in the middle of nowhere [01:53] almost [01:53] but you're insulting her, trying to tell her she's in melbourne === elkbuntu whispers to Hobbsee: I was born south of the border, honey [01:54] border? [01:54] lol [01:54] Seveas, between nsw and vic [01:54] ah [01:55] there was no obstetrics within decent distance on the nsw side, so i was born in the city just across the state border === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ [01:55] elkbuntu: ahhh....fair enough [01:55] which starts with a t, i believe [01:55] near the town called "goodnight" [01:55] ... [01:55] neither albury nor wodonga start with t [01:56] wodonga... [01:56] i realise that. somewhere near there though, there's one that does [01:57] Seveas, hmm? === user1562 [i=am@gateway/tor/x-f6589a6b0248ab56] has joined #ubuntu-ops [02:01] !tor | user1562 [02:01] user1562: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer. [02:01] Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself. Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc. If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v tonyyarusso] by ChanServ === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Mez] by ChanServ === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v gnomefreak] by ChanServ [04:03] In ubotu, jrib said: alternative is alternate [04:05] !alternative [04:05] Sorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [04:05] !alternative is alternate [04:05] In #ubuntu-ops, tonyyarusso said: !alternative is alternate [04:06] really? [04:07] lol [04:07] %login === oneyozfest182 [i=45cdc88b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-66198c23672111f6] has joined #ubuntu-ops [04:23] !tor | oneyozfest182 [04:23] oneyozfest182: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer. [04:23] Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself. Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc. If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks === effie_jayx [i=c9eae5f1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-1c1556f5222ee4a2] has joined #ubuntu-ops === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ === lucascle [i=54382f77@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-47f7addd3dd9bc36] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:08] Hi [05:08] !burners =~ /graveman/graveman,/ [05:08] hey lucascle [05:08] I'll remember that tonyyarusso [05:08] !proxy | lucascle [05:08] lucascle: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer. [05:08] Attention tor users. You may think you are anonymous, but you are not. Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself. Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc. If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks [05:08] !tor | lucascle [05:09] PriceChild, 1 : 0 tonyyarusso [05:09] I have a proposal for the universe: Why don't you add the code:blocks ide? [05:10] the website is http://www.codeblocks.org/ and there is an ubuntu version [05:11] PriceChild: Just because my lag ranges from 5s to 1 min.... [05:11] tonyyarusso, Still stands :) [05:11] lucascle, this is not #ubuntu [05:11] lucascle, #ubuntu probably isn't the best place for this either, #ubuntu-motu manage the universe [05:11] ok, thx [05:12] lucascle, Please read the message above from ubotu about why you got re-directed here from #ubuntu :) [05:12] Let me tell you how much fun IRC is with lag measured in minutes... I've made a fool of myself in #ubuntu a few times today. === PriceChild comforts tonyyarusso === PriceChild strokes his supposedly 0.2s lag === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-ops === pochu [n=pochu@38.Red-88-7-170.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:54] Hello ops! I have a question: is it possible to have an #ubuntu- channel as private? Look at this: #ubuntu-es+1 (protected with passwd) [05:54] -ChanServ- Channel [#ubuntu-es+1] is private === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-ops [05:56] pochu: possible, clearly. Wise/necessary/allowed/etc., I have no idea. [05:57] tonyyarusso: ok, Seveas will know it right? [05:58] pochu: Should, yes. [05:58] tonyyarusso: ok, ty :) === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Amaranth] by ChanServ [06:13] pochu: nalioth or seveas would knwo for sure [06:13] nalioth: ping? [06:14] gnomefreak: thanks :) I'm asking that channel's users at #ubuntu-locoteams [06:14] i beleive all #ubuntu- official channels cant be private but im not totally sure [06:15] ok back to work === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Bye!"] === GazzaK [n=Dogbert@colchester-lug/GazzaK] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-ops [07:52] @btlongin [07:52] @btlogin === arrenlex [n=em@S01060040052da362.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [07:53] !repeat | There is a comma splice in the first sentence: two independent clauses should be joined by ";" or ":" [07:53] There is a comma splice in the first sentence: two independent clauses should be joined by ";" or ":": Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience [07:54] ah grammar pedantry ftw :p [07:54] Indeed! === Blotto [i=899bc419@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-ec238fccf265e271] has joined #ubuntu-ops [07:59] He's right. :) [08:00] !repeat =~ /quickly,/quickly;/ [08:00] I'll remember that tonyyarusso [08:01] Hurrah! :D My lust for grammar is satisfied. Thank you very much. === arrenlex [n=em@S01060040052da362.ed.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-ops [] [08:01] quick change it back now :) [08:02] lol [08:14] In #kubuntu, _eMaX_ said: ubotu what is the purpose of your existence? === Seeker` [n=cjo20@84-12-195-25.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-ops === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v ompaul] by ChanServ === guillote_GNU [n=BrainDoo@host197.201-252-197.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-ops === guillote_GNU [n=BrainDoo@host197.201-252-197.telecom.net.ar] has left #ubuntu-ops [] === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Pricey] by ChanServ === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v PriceChild] by ChanServ === threeonefour [i=c7b9566a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-5749d6fa175d9c63] has joined #ubuntu-ops [10:06] @schedule sydney [10:06] Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 25 Feb 08:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 26 Feb 04:00: LoCo Team | 27 Feb 10:00: Community Council | 28 Feb 07:00: Technical Board | 01 Mar 05:00: Accessibility Team | 01 Mar 07:00: Edubuntu === mr_linux [i=c7b9566a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-05e0a107113fa0ec] has joined #ubuntu-ops [10:21] tonyyarusso: he was using that as excuse to continue in #ubuntu (im willing to bet he goes offtopic very shortly. i remember him for some reason [10:22] gnomefreak: yeah - soundray says he's been a low-level but persistent offtopicer all day. I have him on hilight, so it's just a matter of what buttons he finds now, or if the !ops was enough to _maybe_ scare him. === tonyyarusso doubts [10:23] gnomefreak: (know anything about building Mozilla apps?) [10:24] yeah a bit :) brb though [10:24] 'k [10:29] tonyyarusso: whats the question? [10:31] gnomefreak: So I'm trying to build an app (named either Nvu 1.1 or KompoZer, depending on a decision which is imminent), for Ubuntu. Currently, my Ubuntu .deb results in this upon running the command: "Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting." However, building in non-debianized form from the source was successful. What should I look for to fix? [10:31] (we can take it to #ubuntu-motu if you care, btw) [10:32] not sure i havent try that one yet. does it build using .mozconfig [10:33] Yes. In the packaged version, debian/mozconfig.debian, otherwise, .mozconfig. [10:35] There is very little difference between the .mozconfig and the mozconfig.debian as I used them, and the difference is that my failed build I uncommented the section labelled "uncomment for debian", and my successful build I did not. [10:35] tonyyarusso: best bet would be to join #ubuntu-mozillateam on monday and ask asac he would know what runtime dir. its talking aobut. maybe if i get time ill play with it and if i get it to build ill add it to http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/ and let you know what was worng [10:35] tonyyarusso: look at your debian/* dir [10:35] nalioth: There. What am I looking for? [10:35] tonyyarusso: if it builds w/o error using configure/make/make install it should build just fine into a deb [10:36] gnomefreak: Okay, thanks. [10:36] This is the commented/uncommented section if it means anything to you nalioth : [10:36] > export OS_LIBS="-lc -lpthread" [10:36] > export CFLAGS="-DDEBIAN" [10:36] > export CXXFLAGS="-DDEBIAN" [10:37] Any other files besides the mozconfig that could be responsible? [10:37] rules file maybe? [10:38] tonyyarusso: i suggest you join irc.mozilla.org and /list [10:38] nalioth: 'k :) [10:38] gnomefreak: Maybe. rules is a bit of a mystery to me still, unfortunately. [10:38] control shouldnt and changelog shouldnt so all i can think of is you typoed in rules or you just diudnt add a file to debian dir/. [10:38] see if you can find a dev channel over there, tonyyarusso [10:39] we have one here but asac is off until later this weekend [10:40] scanning the /list [10:43] if you don't find a dev channel, just ask in #nvu or #$PROJECT_NAME === QMario [n=QMario@cpe-70-116-124-115.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #Ubuntu-ops [10:47] nalioth: There's a #development, #mozbuild, #composer, #dev, and #MozillaDev. [10:47] #mozilladev :) [10:47] One nick besides me.... :( [10:48] nvu is no longer maintained :( konpozer sucks too :( [10:48] kompozer even [10:48] gnomefreak: If you can list things it needs fixed we might be able to get them done. btw, he plans a 0.8 release next week. [10:48] i still have upstream tar ball so i will play with it this weekend and see if i can get to figure it out before i leave nextweek === gnomefreak wont be here next week === tonyyarusso has the KompoZer developer on his Gaim buddies now [10:49] tonyyarusso: well if it wasnt you building it it would be me :( [10:49] so ty [10:49] yw then :) [10:50] (what happened to giskard doing it?) [10:50] didnt know he planed to [10:50] he did nvu in edgy is all [10:50] or helped, not sure [10:50] as a team we know nothing about kompzer being added to feisty [10:51] we have new mozilla maintainer [10:51] i havent seen giskard in a while [10:52] I just thought of it last week - I knew about nvu not being in, and just stumbled across the kompozer site. And since I and both of my parents have used Nvu from time to time, I jumped on it and started frantically reading packaging documentation, and so here I am, with a "so close to working it hurts to watch" package. [10:52] giskard was in -motu two days ago - we talked briefly. [10:52] is it being accepted in feisty? [10:52] giskard is always in beryl-dev [10:52] has it been* [10:53] gnomefreak: No, as I did not have a package ready in time for UVF. If I get something done very shortly I will be asking for exemption consideration. I spoke to the developer about the deadline for that possibility (~Mar 15th), and asked to get a reply about whether it will be nvu 1.1 or kompozer something by then if at all possible. [10:54] (UVF being yesterday, of course) [10:54] name it kompozer IMHO [10:54] Quite likely, yes, but if it turns out that it can be called nvu, that will be useful for people upgrading, who wouldn't otherwise hear of it. [10:54] as everyone knows NVU is no longer maintained and would be scared to use/have it [10:55] He was going to talk to Linspire (trademark holder?) about the name. [10:55] not them again :( === gnomefreak waits for a ton of patches from them [10:56] Ah, yep - "Nvu is a trademark of Linspire, Inc" [10:56] gnomefreak: we only need trademark permission though this time, the actual developer seems receptive to patches (I just e-mailed him the ones I'm using) [10:56] well that may answer the question i asked earlier :( [10:57] If UbuntuStats were here you would be the sad person of the day. [10:57] tonyyarusso: david is working with them to get patches for mozilla products so we can check with mozilla than we can add them :( [10:57] good its been like that all week [10:57] i working hard this week so i can go away and not worry about this stuff [10:58] Good for you - enjoy a vacation. [10:58] Yeah where did UbuntuStats disappear to... [10:58] ty but its not so much as vacation but emergency trip [10:59] Oh, that's less nice. [10:59] Medical? [10:59] much [10:59] yeah a family member is extreamly sick the past week or so so we planned the trip [11:00] ah [11:00] best wishes then === gnomefreak needs to tend to god daughter if she stays sick [11:05] tonyyarusso: the kompozer site should have a page for building it. maybe it will list runtime libs needed? [11:06] gnomefreak: Well, I was able to successfully build it, just not as a debian package. I need to find out what's being done differently between the two processes. [11:08] tonyyarusso: normally the rules file (since that controls dpkg-buildpackage with ./configure and make [11:08] gnomefreak: he can't package it, he is having some trouble with the debian/* [11:08] Probably debian/rules, yes. I jsut have to figure out what about it. [11:09] nalioth: without looking at it all i can give him is the debian dir i have for totem ff and thunderbird but may not help since they rely on different things. but maybe hes missing a build-dep of runtime libs :) [11:10] gnomefreak: There's a not-most-recent, but for our purposes, good enough version on REVU. http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4453 should be it. [11:10] but if i get time ill look at it this weekend [11:10] gnomefreak: no, it's that [many expletives deleted] build system mozilla uses [11:11] (things changed after that version are things like adding the icon) [11:16] ok i pinged asac if he gets back in next couple hours hell ping me [11:17] as long as im not completely froze up :( [11:20] anyone feel like wartning sender again? im getting tired of warning him [11:20] warning* [11:24] I'm off to meet my parents for dinner, but I'll stay connected. [11:25] gnomefreak: like that? [11:26] i was getting htere [11:26] there [11:26] ty [11:26] hes been offtopic for like an hour or 2 === Vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has left #ubuntu-ops [] === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v hybrid] by ChanServ === FIRESIDE91 [n=stefan@24-117-90-186.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === vorian_ [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-ops [11:54] Hey, Tony, why'd you ban me from #ubuntu? === vorian_ is now known as voian === voian is now known as vorian [11:56] Can anyone tell me? I've been banned from #ubuntu and can't get back in....the kick message gave told me to read IrcGuidlines on the Wiki, but I wasn't doing anything wrong. [11:56] tonyyarusso ^ [11:57] FIRESIDE91: join me in #moderation please [11:57] K [11:57] /j ##moderation [11:57] or that === FIRESIDE91 [n=stefan@24-117-90-186.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has left #ubuntu-ops [] [11:58] FIRESIDE91: please rejoin #moderation === FIRESIDE91 [n=stefan@24-117-90-186.cpe.cableone.net] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] === FIRESIDE91 [n=stefan@24-117-90-186.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [12:05] Back === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ [12:10] hi Hobbsee [12:11] FIRESIDE91: you're good to go. thanks for your patience === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-ops === mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v maxamillion] by ChanServ === FIRESIDE91 [n=stefan@24-117-90-186.cpe.cableone.net] has left #ubuntu-ops ["Leaving"] [12:15] nalioth! [12:15] i didn't do it, Hobbsee [12:16] nalioth: i blame you anyway [12:16] :D [12:16] is the bot doing ok, Hobbsee ? [12:16] nobody seems to want to use it [12:16] nalioth: dunno. it's working in #kubuntu-devel [12:16] not my bot [12:17] i put ubot3 in some #ubuntu channels [12:17] ljl is on vacation [12:18] ah right === elkbuntu whistles innocently === Hobbsee BLAMES ELKBUNTU === Hobbsee knows you did it. === Hobbsee should get her passport in the next week or so :D [12:24] yay [12:24] yep :)