[02:08] <jrib> ola
[02:08] <jrib> !info sun-java6-jre
[02:08] <ubotu> sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-0ubuntu1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 6174 kB, installed size 14144 kB
[02:08] <jrib> any reason #ubuntu does not search edgy-backports?
[02:09] <lkoos> Hi there.
[02:09] <tonyyarusso> hi
[02:09] <nalioth> jrib: huh?
[02:09] <lkoos> I appear to be unable to join #ubuntu
[02:09] <tonyyarusso> Ah, that's why.
[02:09] <tonyyarusso> !tor | lkoos
[02:09] <ubotu> lkoos: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[02:09] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[02:10] <jrib> ubotu only searches edgy and edgy-seveas repositories using !info in #ubuntu, however, elsewhere, he seems to include edgy-backports
[02:10] <lkoos> That's an interesting statement regarding my ability to be anonymous with tor.
[02:12] <jrib> nalioth: ^
[02:13] <lkoos> Whoever told ubotu to direct people to tor.unixgu.ru is misinformed.
[02:13] <lkoos> Yes, someone can sniff an exit node.
[02:13] <lkoos> However, without regard for the content I produce, I am effectively as anonymous as one can be online.
[02:14] <lkoos> Using a cloaking service is not anonymous and it disregards the actual need to use tor for many use cases.
[02:14] <tonyyarusso> I don't know anything about how tor actually works, all I can tell you is you can't join #ubuntu with it.
[02:15] <lkoos> I propose that someone changes that bot output as it's misleading. It's FUD.
[02:16] <lkoos> Sorry that other tor users have made it impossible for me to join #ubuntu, some people suck :-(
[02:16] <lkoos> Sorry to waste your time.
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> Someone who knows more want to consider that proposal?
[02:33] <ubotu> In #xubuntu-offtopic, IPODS_OWN_ZUNES said: !ops this guy is being a asshole
[04:51] <Jordan_U> Nothing big, but the ubotu message about ntfs-3g needs to be updated, it's no longer BETA.
[04:51] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g
[04:51] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> Jordan_U: Do we have a non-beta version in Ubuntu, or is only upstream non-beta?
[04:52] <Jordan_U> tonyyarusso: Only upstream
[04:52] <Jordan_U> tonyyarusso: Let me see if the linked instructions install the latest version...
[05:10] <ubotu> In ubotu, cables said: no, hi is <reply> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! This is a channel where you can ask questions and get help with Ubuntu. Feel free to ask a question, and if someone knows how to help you, they'll try their best.
[05:11] <Jordan_U> Ok, I'll update the Ubuntu Wiki first with instructions on installing the 1.0 then change the ubotu message
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> sounds like a plan :)
[05:12] <cables> Hey, just a question, Ubotu seems to respond to !hi differently depending on where you say it. Is that a special script?
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> cables: It's built into the plugin handling factoids.
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> !-hi-#ubuntu
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi-#ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> bleh
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> !-hi
[05:13] <ubotu> hi aliases: howdy - added by Seveas on 2006-07-11 17:20:25
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> !-hi-#ubuntu-offtopic
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> where is it different?
[05:14] <cables> tonyyarusso, I said it in pm and it said welcome to ubotu
[05:14] <cables> in #ubuntu it says welcome to #ubuntu
[05:14] <cables> in offtopic it says welcome to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> ah, yeah.  It's welcome to (some variable wherever you are)
[05:15] <cables> ok
[05:16] <cables> Do you like my new !hi ?
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> what is the sysrq key anyway?
[07:55] <ttmrichter> How, precisely, is the supposed weakness in my router being tested?
[07:59] <Madpilot> ttmrichter, you got redirected to -read-topic?
[07:59] <ttmrichter> Yes.
[07:59] <ttmrichter> And found a distinct paucity of actual information.
[08:00] <Madpilot> ttmrichter, if you fixed the issue -read-topic points out, join me in #madpilot for a test attack
[08:00] <ttmrichter> Look at it from my (paranoid) perspective: I suddenly get told by an irc bot that I'm "vulnerable", get pointed to a freely-editable wiki page with no real information.
[08:01] <ttmrichter> I won't be adjusting anything until I know what is being tested and get something sensible out of it.
[08:01] <ttmrichter> Looking at my router, there's nothing on any port open that's vulnerable.
[08:01] <ttmrichter> So what's the story?
[08:01] <Madpilot> your router is freaking out when people send D C C instructions thru it. Changing ports bypasses your router's stupidity
[08:01] <ttmrichter> Got an URL which explains it in more detail?
[08:02] <Madpilot> google "DCC exploit"
[08:04] <Madpilot> or just trust our wikipage - lots of people monitor that page, any crap would be killed PDQ
[08:11] <ttmrichter> I've changed the port.  I assume I have to log out and back in?
[08:12] <ttmrichter> OK.  Fire away.
[08:13] <ttmrichter> On port 8001 as instructed.
[08:13] <Madpilot> ttmrichter, join #madpilot, please - I won't launch a test attack here
[08:17] <Madpilot> ttmrichter, you're clear, you should be able to get into #ubuntu now
[10:19] <Jordan_U> !seen Jordan_U
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen jordan_u - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <Jordan_U> Is that feature broken or removed?
[10:21] <Madpilot> removed, I think
[10:21] <Madpilot> use seenserv instead
[11:14] <elkbuntu> @schedule
[11:14] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: Current meeting: MOTU Council | 24 Feb 21:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 25 Feb 17:00: LoCo Team | 26 Feb 23:00: Community Council | 27 Feb 20:00: Technical Board | 28 Feb 18:00: Accessibility Team
[11:15] <elkbuntu> @schedule sydney
[11:15] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Australia/Sydney: Current meeting: MOTU Council | 25 Feb 08:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 26 Feb 04:00: LoCo Team | 27 Feb 10:00: Community Council | 28 Feb 07:00: Technical Board | 01 Mar 05:00: Accessibility Team
[11:17] <morrolan> Hello - can anyone tell me why the version of libglu-mesa and libglu-dev are cvs versions, and not full releases?  It causes the install of UFO:Alien Invasion to die miserably.
[11:18] <elkbuntu> maybe if you stay longer than 30 seconds?
[11:18] <morrolan> !opengl
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <elkbuntu> morrolan, not a clue about the libglu bits. have you submitted bug reports?
[11:20] <elkbuntu> meanwhile, this is a discussion channel for the irc ops, not a support channel
[11:27] <Seveas> elkbuntu, look at his host :)
[11:27] <elkbuntu> Seveas, meh
[11:28] <Seveas> elkbuntu, shoarma
[11:29] <elkbuntu> Seveas, eh?
[11:29] <Seveas> meh -> sheep -> dead sheep -> shoarma
[11:31] <elkbuntu> you really are weird
[11:31] <elkbuntu> :
[11:31] <Seveas> I am
[11:32] <elkbuntu> wow... someone cut loose at joel bryan juliano on -sounder
[11:32] <Seveas> yeah
[11:33] <Seveas> michael richter should behave
[11:33] <elkbuntu> im pretty sure i've seen similar from him before somewhere
[12:14] <cntb> \o
[12:14] <cntb> I saw a new bot ubot3
[12:14] <elkbuntu> cntb, yes, it is a redundancy for ubotu
[12:14] <cntb> ty elkbuntu
[12:15] <cntb> same daatbase in real time ?
[12:15] <elkbuntu> should be
[12:15] <cntb> ok
[12:15] <elkbuntu> ubotu is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3 is a helper for channels such as loco channels
[12:15] <ubotu> I'll remember that, elkbuntu
[12:15] <elkbuntu> oh f...
[12:16] <elkbuntu> Seveas!!!
[12:16] <Amaranth> !ubotu
[12:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:16] <elkbuntu> phew
[12:16] <Amaranth> !
[12:16] <Amaranth> it seems to have set "nothing"
[12:16] <cntb> ha ha you made a new factoid>?
[12:16] <Amaranth> so, uh, i smell DB corruption :)
[12:17] <Amaranth> oh
[12:17] <cntb> at least it is backed up
[12:17] <cntb> bye
[12:17] <elkbuntu> cya cntb
[12:17] <Amaranth> !ubotu is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3
[12:17] <ubotu> is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3 is a helper for channels such as loco channels
[12:17] <Amaranth> buggy
[12:17] <elkbuntu> wot the heck
[12:17] <Amaranth> !forget ubotu is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3
[12:17] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, Amaranth said: !forget ubotu is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3
[12:17] <Amaranth> meh
[12:17] <elkbuntu> !forget ubotu is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3
[12:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu is used so much he cant keep up, so ubo3 yet, elkbuntu
[12:18] <elkbuntu> hahah
[12:18] <Amaranth> o_O
[12:18] <elkbuntu> this is now dennis' problem
[12:18] <Amaranth> indeed
[01:20] <Seveas> elkbuntu, why do you always have to find obscure bugs?
[01:20] <elkbuntu> Seveas, it's a gift.
[01:21] <elkbuntu> you realise i need extra huggles now that you went and slapped me?
[01:21] <elkbuntu> pray tell. what did it name the factoid?
[01:21] <Seveas> maybe nalioth has some hugglecake left
[01:27] <highvoltage> what is hugglecake?
[01:27] <elkbuntu> highvoltage, nalioth's cooking. should speak for itself
[01:27] <highvoltage> :)
[01:38] <Myrtti> I want white chocolate with blueberries
[01:45] <Seveas> I do
[01:45] <Seveas> I don't like green chocolate
[01:45] <highvoltage> no peppermint crisps for you then
[01:46] <elkbuntu> i only like white chocolate that is supposed to be white chocolate
[01:46] <highvoltage> elkbuntu: good answer!
[01:46] <elkbuntu> bloomed stuff sucks
[01:48] <Seveas> lol
[01:48] <Seveas> or white chocolate with whole hazelnuts
[01:48] <Seveas> or butterscotch
[01:49] <Seveas> or cappucino flavor
[01:49] <elkbuntu> mmmm butterscotch
[01:49] <elkbuntu> mmmm caffeine
[01:51] <Seveas> @now melbourne
[01:51] <Ubugtu> Current time in Australia/Melbourne: February 23 2007, 23:51:48 - Next meeting: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor in 1 day
[01:51] <Seveas> mmmmm sleep!
[01:51] <Seveas> go to bed
[01:52] <elkbuntu> but there's still another cup worth of coffee in the pot~
[01:52] <elkbuntu> s/~/!/
[01:52] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu's not in melbourne, anyway...
[01:53] <Seveas> Hobbsee, timezone is the same :)
[01:53] <Hobbsee> true that :P
[01:53] <Seveas> elkbuntu lives in the middle of nowhere
[01:53] <elkbuntu> almost
[01:53] <Hobbsee> but you're insulting her, trying to tell her she's in melbourne
[01:54] <Seveas> border?
[01:54] <PriceChild> lol
[01:54] <elkbuntu> Seveas, between nsw and vic
[01:54] <Seveas> ah
[01:55] <elkbuntu> there was no obstetrics within decent distance on the nsw side, so i was born in the city just across the state border
[01:55] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: ahhh....fair enough
[01:55] <Hobbsee> which starts with a t, i believe
[01:55] <Hobbsee> near the town called "goodnight"
[01:55] <elkbuntu> ...
[01:55] <elkbuntu> neither albury nor wodonga start with t
[01:56] <Seveas> wodonga...
[01:56] <Hobbsee> i realise that.  somewhere near there though, there's one that does
[01:57] <elkbuntu> Seveas, hmm?
[02:01] <PriceChild> !tor | user1562
[02:01] <ubotu> user1562: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[02:01] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[04:03] <ubotu> In ubotu, jrib said: alternative is <alias> alternate
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> !alternative
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> !alternative is <alias> alternate
[04:05] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, tonyyarusso said: !alternative is <alias> alternate
[04:06] <Tm_T> really?
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> lol
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> %login
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> !tor | oneyozfest182
[04:23] <ubotu> oneyozfest182: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[04:23] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[05:08] <lucascle> Hi
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> !burners =~ /graveman/graveman,/
[05:08] <PriceChild> hey lucascle
[05:08] <ubotu> I'll remember that tonyyarusso
[05:08] <PriceChild> !proxy | lucascle
[05:08] <ubotu> lucascle: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[05:08] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> !tor | lucascle
[05:09] <PriceChild> PriceChild, 1 : 0 tonyyarusso
[05:09] <lucascle> I have a proposal for the universe: Why don't you add the code:blocks ide?
[05:10] <lucascle> the website is http://www.codeblocks.org/ and there is an ubuntu version
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: Just because my lag ranges from 5s to 1 min....
[05:11] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, Still stands :)
[05:11] <PriceChild> lucascle, this is not #ubuntu
[05:11] <PriceChild> lucascle, #ubuntu probably isn't the best place for this either, #ubuntu-motu manage the universe
[05:11] <lucascle> ok, thx
[05:12] <PriceChild> lucascle, Please read the message above from ubotu about why you got re-directed here from #ubuntu :)
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Let me tell you how much fun IRC is with lag measured in minutes...  I've made a fool of myself in #ubuntu a few times today.
[05:54] <pochu> Hello ops! I have a question: is it possible to have an #ubuntu- channel as private? Look at this: #ubuntu-es+1 (protected with passwd)
[05:54] <pochu> -ChanServ- Channel [#ubuntu-es+1]  is private
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> pochu: possible, clearly.  Wise/necessary/allowed/etc., I have no idea.
[05:57] <pochu> tonyyarusso: ok, Seveas will know it right?
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> pochu: Should, yes.
[05:58] <pochu> tonyyarusso: ok, ty :)
[06:13] <gnomefreak> pochu: nalioth or seveas would knwo for sure
[06:13] <pochu> nalioth: ping?
[06:14] <pochu> gnomefreak: thanks :) I'm asking that channel's users at #ubuntu-locoteams
[06:14] <gnomefreak> i beleive all #ubuntu- official channels cant be private but im not totally sure
[06:15] <gnomefreak> ok back to work
[07:52] <gnomefreak> @btlongin
[07:52] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[07:53] <arrenlex> !repeat | There is a comma splice in the first sentence: two independent clauses should be joined by ";" or ":"
[07:53] <ubotu> There is a comma splice in the first sentence: two independent clauses should be joined by ";" or ":": Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:54] <mc44> ah grammar pedantry ftw :p
[07:54] <arrenlex> Indeed!
[07:59] <tonyyarusso>  He's right.  :)
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> !repeat =~ /quickly,/quickly;/
[08:00] <ubotu> I'll remember that tonyyarusso
[08:01] <arrenlex> Hurrah! :D My lust for grammar is satisfied. Thank you very much.
[08:01] <mc44> quick change it back now :)
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> lol
[08:14] <ubotu> In #kubuntu, _eMaX_ said: ubotu what is the purpose of your existence?
[10:06] <elkbuntu> @schedule sydney
[10:06] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 25 Feb 08:00: Ubuntu US LoCo Team Mentor | 26 Feb 04:00: LoCo Team | 27 Feb 10:00: Community Council | 28 Feb 07:00: Technical Board | 01 Mar 05:00: Accessibility Team | 01 Mar 07:00: Edubuntu
[10:21] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: he was using that as excuse to continue in #ubuntu (im willing to bet he goes offtopic very shortly. i remember him for some reason
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: yeah - soundray says he's been a low-level but persistent offtopicer all day.  I have him on hilight, so it's just a matter of what buttons he finds now, or if the !ops was enough to _maybe_ scare him.
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: (know anything about building Mozilla apps?)
[10:24] <gnomefreak> yeah a bit :) brb though
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> 'k
[10:29] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: whats the question?
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: So I'm trying to build an app (named either Nvu 1.1 or KompoZer, depending on a decision which is imminent), for Ubuntu.  Currently, my Ubuntu .deb results in this upon running the command: "Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting."  However, building in non-debianized form from the source was successful.  What should I look for to fix?
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> (we can take it to #ubuntu-motu if you care, btw)
[10:32] <gnomefreak> not sure i havent try that one yet. does it build using .mozconfig
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> Yes.  In the packaged version, debian/mozconfig.debian, otherwise, .mozconfig.
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> There is very little difference between the .mozconfig and the mozconfig.debian as I used them, and the difference is that my failed build I uncommented the section labelled "uncomment for debian", and my successful build I did not.
[10:35] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: best bet would be to join #ubuntu-mozillateam on monday and ask asac he would know what runtime dir. its talking aobut. maybe if i get time ill play with it and if i get it to build ill add it to http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/ and let you know what was worng
[10:35] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: look at your debian/* dir
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: There.  What am I looking for?
[10:35] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: if it builds w/o error using configure/make/make install it should build just fine into a deb
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Okay, thanks.
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> This is the commented/uncommented section if it means anything to you nalioth :
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> > export OS_LIBS="-lc -lpthread"
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> > export CFLAGS="-DDEBIAN"
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> > export CXXFLAGS="-DDEBIAN"
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> Any other files besides the mozconfig that could be responsible?
[10:37] <gnomefreak> rules file maybe?
[10:38] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: i suggest you join irc.mozilla.org and /list
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: 'k :)
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Maybe.  rules is a bit of a mystery to me still, unfortunately.
[10:38] <gnomefreak> control shouldnt and changelog shouldnt so all i can think of is you typoed in rules or you just diudnt add a file to debian dir/.
[10:38] <nalioth> see if you can find a dev channel over there, tonyyarusso
[10:39] <gnomefreak> we have one here but asac is off until later this weekend
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> scanning the /list
[10:43] <nalioth> if you don't find a dev channel, just ask in #nvu or #$PROJECT_NAME
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: There's a #development, #mozbuild, #composer, #dev, and #MozillaDev.
[10:47] <gnomefreak> #mozilladev :)
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> One nick besides me.... :(
[10:48] <gnomefreak> nvu is no longer maintained :( konpozer sucks too :(
[10:48] <gnomefreak> kompozer even
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: If you can list things it needs fixed we might be able to get them done.  btw, he plans a 0.8 release next week.
[10:48] <gnomefreak> i still have upstream tar ball so i will play with it this weekend and see if i can get to figure it out before i leave nextweek
[10:49] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: well if it wasnt you building it it would be me :(
[10:49] <gnomefreak> so ty
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> yw then :)
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> (what happened to giskard doing it?)
[10:50] <gnomefreak> didnt know he planed to
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> he did nvu in edgy is all
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> or helped, not sure
[10:50] <gnomefreak> as a team we know nothing about kompzer being added to feisty
[10:51] <gnomefreak> we have new mozilla maintainer
[10:51] <gnomefreak> i havent seen giskard in a while
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> I just thought of it last week - I knew about nvu not being in, and just stumbled across the kompozer site.  And since I and both of my parents have used Nvu from time to time, I jumped on it and started frantically reading packaging documentation, and so here I am, with a "so close to working it hurts to watch" package.
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> giskard was in -motu two days ago - we talked briefly.
[10:52] <gnomefreak> is it being accepted in feisty?
[10:52] <PriceChild> giskard is always in beryl-dev
[10:52] <gnomefreak> has it been*
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: No, as I did not have a package ready in time for UVF.  If I get something done very shortly I will be asking for exemption consideration.  I spoke to the developer about the deadline for that possibility (~Mar 15th), and asked to get a reply about whether it will be nvu 1.1 or kompozer something by then if at all possible.
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> (UVF being yesterday, of course)
[10:54] <gnomefreak> name it kompozer IMHO
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> Quite likely, yes, but if it turns out that it can be called nvu, that will be useful for people upgrading, who wouldn't otherwise hear of it.
[10:54] <gnomefreak> as everyone knows NVU is no longer maintained and would be scared to use/have it
[10:55] <tonyyarusso> He was going to talk to Linspire (trademark holder?) about the name.
[10:55] <gnomefreak> not them again :(
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> Ah, yep - "Nvu is a trademark of Linspire, Inc"
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: we only need trademark permission though this time, the actual developer seems receptive to patches (I just e-mailed him the ones I'm using)
[10:56] <gnomefreak> well that may answer the question i asked earlier :(
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> If UbuntuStats were here you would be the sad person of the day.
[10:57] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: david is working with them to get patches for mozilla products so we can check with mozilla than we can add them :(
[10:57] <gnomefreak> good its been like that all week
[10:57] <gnomefreak> i working hard this week so i can go away and not worry about this stuff
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> Good for you - enjoy a vacation.
[10:58] <PriceChild> Yeah where did UbuntuStats disappear to...
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ty but its not so much as vacation but emergency trip
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> Oh, that's less nice.
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> Medical?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> much
[10:59] <gnomefreak> yeah a family member is extreamly sick the past week or so so we planned the trip
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> ah
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> best wishes then
[11:05] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: the kompozer site should have a page for building it. maybe it will list runtime libs needed?
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Well, I was able to successfully build it, just not as a debian package.  I need to find out what's being done differently between the two processes.
[11:08] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: normally the rules file (since that controls dpkg-buildpackage with ./configure and make
[11:08] <nalioth> gnomefreak: he can't package it, he is having some trouble with the debian/*
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> Probably debian/rules, yes.  I jsut have to figure out what about it.
[11:09] <gnomefreak> nalioth: without looking at it all i can give him is the debian dir i have for totem ff and thunderbird but may not help since they rely on different things. but maybe hes missing a build-dep of runtime libs :)
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: There's a not-most-recent, but for our purposes, good enough version on REVU.  http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4453 should be it.
[11:10] <gnomefreak> but if i get time ill look at it this weekend
[11:10] <nalioth> gnomefreak: no, it's that [many expletives deleted]  build system mozilla uses
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> (things changed after that version are things like adding the icon)
[11:16] <gnomefreak> ok i pinged asac if he gets back in next couple hours hell ping me
[11:17] <gnomefreak> as long as im not completely froze up :(
[11:20] <gnomefreak> anyone feel like wartning sender again? im getting tired of warning him
[11:20] <gnomefreak> warning*
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> I'm off to meet my parents for dinner, but I'll stay connected.
[11:25] <nalioth> gnomefreak: like that?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> i was getting htere
[11:26] <gnomefreak> there
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:26] <gnomefreak> hes been offtopic for like an hour or 2
[11:54] <FIRESIDE91> Hey, Tony, why'd you ban me from #ubuntu?
[11:56] <FIRESIDE91> Can anyone tell me?  I've been banned from #ubuntu and can't get back in....the kick message gave told me to read IrcGuidlines on the Wiki, but I wasn't doing anything wrong.
[11:56] <mc44> tonyyarusso ^
[11:57] <nalioth> FIRESIDE91: join me in #moderation please
[11:57] <FIRESIDE91> K
[11:57] <nalioth>  /j ##moderation
[11:57] <nalioth> or that
[11:58] <nalioth> FIRESIDE91: please rejoin #moderation
[12:05] <FIRESIDE91> Back
[12:10] <nalioth> hi Hobbsee
[12:11] <nalioth> FIRESIDE91: you're good to go.  thanks for your patience
[12:15] <Hobbsee> nalioth!
[12:15] <nalioth> i didn't do it, Hobbsee
[12:16] <Hobbsee> nalioth: i blame you anyway
[12:16] <nalioth> :D
[12:16] <nalioth> is the bot doing ok, Hobbsee ?
[12:16] <nalioth> nobody seems to want to use it
[12:16] <Hobbsee> nalioth: dunno.  it's working in #kubuntu-devel
[12:16] <nalioth> not my bot
[12:17] <nalioth>  i put ubot3 in some #ubuntu channels
[12:17] <nalioth> ljl is on vacation
[12:18] <Hobbsee> ah right
[12:24] <elkbuntu> yay
[12:24] <Hobbsee> yep :)