/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/02/23/#ubuntu-server.txt

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GNu_JoeSo I have 3 bust to add, how do I add them?03:19
GNu_Joebugs that is03:19
GNu_Joebust is what they do to the system03:19
GNu_Joe-)03:19
ajmitchhttp://bugs.ubuntu.com03:26
ajmitchit should redirect you to the appropriate place on launchpad03:26
GNu_Joeah thanks03:56
GNu_Joeare there only 2 bugs? that's all I've seen listed03:57
ajmitchheh no03:57
GNu_Joedidn't think so03:57
GNu_Joehow to just look at ubuntu-server bugs?04:00
ajmitchI doubt that you can, since ubuntu-server is just a specific set of packages04:01
GNu_Joeok one I have is a dup of #48266 and I know what the fix is04:06
GNu_Joehow do I communicate the fix?04:06
GNu_Joeupdate the bug, then post to the list or just post to the list?04:07
ajmitchupdate the bug04:08
ajmitchby adding a comment04:08
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fmasiwhat is the kernel vertion that come in 6.06 out of the box?04:54
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fredlhi, does anybody here know anything about dbconfig-common?10:24
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[miles] fredl, sorry, not me10:36
fredl[miles]  you have dbconfig-common installed?10:40
[miles] fredl, no idea10:44
[miles] this channel is pretty quiet fredl , some movement at times, but some days pass without a line of chat10:45
fredlwow10:50
[miles] aye10:50
[miles] it's cos we are gurus here10:50
[miles] we never need help ;-)10:50
[miles] jeje10:50
[miles] hit #ubuntu and I guess it will be flooded with... how do I mount my floppy :D10:50
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fredlyou you're a guru who doesn't know if you have dbconfig-common installed? :)11:09
[miles] jeje11:09
[miles] yes11:09
[miles] :)11:09
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GNu_JoeBug 87240 was rejected, reason "require more discussion" but on the ubuntu-devel-discuss list08:25
GNu_JoeI'm confused is there such thing as ubuntu-server?08:26
GNu_Joebug 87240 was that opessh-server should have been included in base install, how is that a Ubuntu developer discussion?08:27
mralphabetbecause dev's determine which packages are used in which install08:28
mralphabetand package inclusion is not a bug08:28
mralphabetfurther, in my mind, base install is for packages that the vast majority of installs will use08:29
mralphabetopenssh, as another service, doesn't fall into that category08:29
GNu_Joehow so?08:29
GNu_Joewhat's the point of a server without remote access?08:30
mralphabethow many of the people in #ubuntu right now ssh to their machine?08:30
mralphabethow many would you guess?08:30
mralphabetthere's 950ish in there right now08:30
GNu_Joeit's in ubuntu base but excluded from ubuntu-server why?08:30
mralphabetoO08:31
GNu_Joenot the point08:31
mralphabetbug 87240 was that opessh-server should have been included in base install08:31
mralphabetthat implies that it was not included in the base install08:31
GNu_Joefor ubuntu-server, it's part of all other versions of ubuntu08:31
GNu_Joebottom line, what is the point of a server without 08:32
GNu_JoeANY remote access?08:33
GNu_Joeso why was it removed? and how is that not a bug?08:34
Burgworkopenssh is not installed by default as it opens a port08:34
Burgworkno open ports by default08:34
GNu_JoeBurgwork, ok true but why not part of LAMP08:35
Burgworkhmm, good point08:35
Burgworkfile a but on that08:35
Burgworkbug, rather08:35
GNu_Joeproblem: user installs ubuntu-server and walks away you can access httpd but have to go back to the server room to install openssh-server08:37
GNu_JoeBug will be rejected, I have to plead my case to all Ubuntu development08:38
Burgworkno, I don;t think it will be rejected08:45
BurgworkLAMp already opens ports08:46
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loiicHi there09:27
GNu_Joewhat's up loiic?09:27
loiicis that normal behavior for the ssh daemon to print the motd even though the option is set to off in sshd_config?09:27
loiiconly way to prevent it is to edit the pam.d file09:28
GNu_Joenot sure what your looking at doing09:28
loiici am trying to disable the motd (/etc/motd) to be displayed at log time09:29
GNu_Joeonce sshd starts a shell you will see the /etc/motd09:29
loiicthere is an option to do that in sshd_config, but doesnt work on ubuntu 6.1009:29
loiicworks fine on debian though09:29
GNu_Joeonly for remote access?09:29
loiici dont have local access to the machine09:30
loiicthe pam.d file are identicall on ubuntu and debian, so the problem doesnt come from there, i guess something wrong with the sshd packet09:31
loiicsame thing happens the 2 unbutu server i've got09:31
GNu_Joehave you tried .hushlogin ?09:35
loiicyeah it does work09:35
loiicnot very convinient though09:35
loiici solve my problem by editing the pam.d/ssh file, it's just that i reckon it's not the normal behavior, so might need to be fixed09:36
GNu_Joeok I verified that's what occurs on the latest build, looks like a bug to me09:42
GNu_Joesince I do not see motd in /etc/profile09:44
GNu_Joeopen a bug report09:44
loiici got my hands on a ubuntu for the first time this morning, i am not sure what's the process to report a bug09:44
GNu_Joehttp://bugs.ubuntu.com/09:45
loiicwhat about suggestions ?09:45
loiicstill on the motd story i've got a suggestion, where should that kind of thing go ?09:46
GNu_Joein the bug report09:46
GNu_Joeit's free form so it's way easier then you would think09:47
loiicnah, it's not related to this bug09:47
loiicanyway gonna open this bug report, thanks for the confirmation09:48
GNu_Joeloiic, let me know the bug # so I can add comments10:02
loiicsure10:02
loiicwell i am confused, i reported it, but still doesnt show anywhere, even in my account page under the "Reported" section10:17
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