[03:19] <GNu_Joe> So I have 3 bust to add, how do I add them?
[03:19] <GNu_Joe> bugs that is
[03:19] <GNu_Joe> bust is what they do to the system
[03:19] <GNu_Joe> -)
[03:26] <ajmitch> http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[03:26] <ajmitch> it should redirect you to the appropriate place on launchpad
[03:56] <GNu_Joe> ah thanks
[03:57] <GNu_Joe> are there only 2 bugs? that's all I've seen listed
[03:57] <ajmitch> heh no
[03:57] <GNu_Joe> didn't think so
[04:00] <GNu_Joe> how to just look at ubuntu-server bugs?
[04:01] <ajmitch> I doubt that you can, since ubuntu-server is just a specific set of packages
[04:06] <GNu_Joe> ok one I have is a dup of #48266 and I know what the fix is
[04:06] <GNu_Joe> how do I communicate the fix?
[04:07] <GNu_Joe> update the bug, then post to the list or just post to the list?
[04:08] <ajmitch> update the bug
[04:08] <ajmitch> by adding a comment
[04:54] <fmasi> what is the kernel vertion that come in 6.06 out of the box?
[10:24] <fredl> hi, does anybody here know anything about dbconfig-common?
[10:36] <[miles] > fredl, sorry, not me
[10:40] <fredl> [miles]  you have dbconfig-common installed?
[10:44] <[miles] > fredl, no idea
[10:45] <[miles] > this channel is pretty quiet fredl , some movement at times, but some days pass without a line of chat
[10:50] <fredl> wow
[10:50] <[miles] > aye
[10:50] <[miles] > it's cos we are gurus here
[10:50] <[miles] > we never need help ;-)
[10:50] <[miles] > jeje
[10:50] <[miles] > hit #ubuntu and I guess it will be flooded with... how do I mount my floppy :D
[11:09] <fredl> you you're a guru who doesn't know if you have dbconfig-common installed? :)
[11:09] <[miles] > jeje
[11:09] <[miles] > yes
[11:09] <[miles] > :)
[08:25] <GNu_Joe> Bug 87240 was rejected, reason "require more discussion" but on the ubuntu-devel-discuss list
[08:26] <GNu_Joe> I'm confused is there such thing as ubuntu-server?
[08:27] <GNu_Joe> bug 87240 was that opessh-server should have been included in base install, how is that a Ubuntu developer discussion?
[08:28] <mralphabet> because dev's determine which packages are used in which install
[08:28] <mralphabet> and package inclusion is not a bug
[08:29] <mralphabet> further, in my mind, base install is for packages that the vast majority of installs will use
[08:29] <mralphabet> openssh, as another service, doesn't fall into that category
[08:29] <GNu_Joe> how so?
[08:30] <GNu_Joe> what's the point of a server without remote access?
[08:30] <mralphabet> how many of the people in #ubuntu right now ssh to their machine?
[08:30] <mralphabet> how many would you guess?
[08:30] <mralphabet> there's 950ish in there right now
[08:30] <GNu_Joe> it's in ubuntu base but excluded from ubuntu-server why?
[08:31] <mralphabet> oO
[08:31] <GNu_Joe> not the point
[08:31] <mralphabet> bug 87240 was that opessh-server should have been included in base install
[08:31] <mralphabet> that implies that it was not included in the base install
[08:31] <GNu_Joe> for ubuntu-server, it's part of all other versions of ubuntu
[08:32] <GNu_Joe> bottom line, what is the point of a server without 
[08:33] <GNu_Joe> ANY remote access?
[08:34] <GNu_Joe> so why was it removed? and how is that not a bug?
[08:34] <Burgwork> openssh is not installed by default as it opens a port
[08:34] <Burgwork> no open ports by default
[08:35] <GNu_Joe> Burgwork, ok true but why not part of LAMP
[08:35] <Burgwork> hmm, good point
[08:35] <Burgwork> file a but on that
[08:35] <Burgwork> bug, rather
[08:37] <GNu_Joe> problem: user installs ubuntu-server and walks away you can access httpd but have to go back to the server room to install openssh-server
[08:38] <GNu_Joe> Bug will be rejected, I have to plead my case to all Ubuntu development
[08:45] <Burgwork> no, I don;t think it will be rejected
[08:46] <Burgwork> LAMp already opens ports
[09:27] <loiic> Hi there
[09:27] <GNu_Joe> what's up loiic?
[09:27] <loiic> is that normal behavior for the ssh daemon to print the motd even though the option is set to off in sshd_config?
[09:28] <loiic> only way to prevent it is to edit the pam.d file
[09:28] <GNu_Joe> not sure what your looking at doing
[09:29] <loiic> i am trying to disable the motd (/etc/motd) to be displayed at log time
[09:29] <GNu_Joe> once sshd starts a shell you will see the /etc/motd
[09:29] <loiic> there is an option to do that in sshd_config, but doesnt work on ubuntu 6.10
[09:29] <loiic> works fine on debian though
[09:29] <GNu_Joe> only for remote access?
[09:30] <loiic> i dont have local access to the machine
[09:31] <loiic> the pam.d file are identicall on ubuntu and debian, so the problem doesnt come from there, i guess something wrong with the sshd packet
[09:31] <loiic> same thing happens the 2 unbutu server i've got
[09:35] <GNu_Joe> have you tried .hushlogin ?
[09:35] <loiic> yeah it does work
[09:35] <loiic> not very convinient though
[09:36] <loiic> i solve my problem by editing the pam.d/ssh file, it's just that i reckon it's not the normal behavior, so might need to be fixed
[09:42] <GNu_Joe> ok I verified that's what occurs on the latest build, looks like a bug to me
[09:44] <GNu_Joe> since I do not see motd in /etc/profile
[09:44] <GNu_Joe> open a bug report
[09:44] <loiic> i got my hands on a ubuntu for the first time this morning, i am not sure what's the process to report a bug
[09:45] <GNu_Joe> http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[09:45] <loiic> what about suggestions ?
[09:46] <loiic> still on the motd story i've got a suggestion, where should that kind of thing go ?
[09:46] <GNu_Joe> in the bug report
[09:47] <GNu_Joe> it's free form so it's way easier then you would think
[09:47] <loiic> nah, it's not related to this bug
[09:48] <loiic> anyway gonna open this bug report, thanks for the confirmation
[10:02] <GNu_Joe> loiic, let me know the bug # so I can add comments
[10:02] <loiic> sure
[10:17] <loiic> well i am confused, i reported it, but still doesnt show anywhere, even in my account page under the "Reported" section